From mattdm at mattdm.org Thu Mar 1 00:53:13 2007 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:53:13 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Some Idea....please reply In-Reply-To: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it> References: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it> Message-ID: <20070301005313.GA18930@jadzia.bu.edu> On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:35:01AM +0100, Giuseppe Pignataro wrote: > 1) My first idea is to create a site like linuxcounter for people that use > Fedora. > I believe that this idea is good for two reason. [...] See: -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 06:05:23 2007 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:35:23 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] release announcement idea [RFC] In-Reply-To: References: <1172665218.4651.289.camel@erato.phig.org> <1172691235.3301.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: +1 here..a very good idea.. -- ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 1 06:25:40 2007 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 07:25:40 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Emeritus Ambassadors In-Reply-To: <45E5F5AC.2050305@elfshadow.net> References: <45E5B22D.5060306@fedoraproject.org> <45E5F5AC.2050305@elfshadow.net> Message-ID: <45E671E4.4090704@fedoraproject.org> I retire my proposal because, as many people told me, we have to focus on F7 release; so, please, after this message, don't reply to this topic that will be virtually closed (actually there aren't moderation tool to make this possible only human will :) ). == Fedora Emeritus Ambassadors discussion, for now, is suspended and, if someone is interested it will reopen after the F7 release. == Thanks for your collaboration Francesco Ugolini -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From susmit.shannigrahi at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 06:04:48 2007 From: susmit.shannigrahi at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:34:48 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] release announcement idea [RFC] In-Reply-To: <1172691235.3301.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1172665218.4651.289.camel@erato.phig.org> <1172691235.3301.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: +1 here..a very good idea.. -- ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 1 10:14:39 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:14:39 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Emeritus Ambassadors In-Reply-To: <45E601E1.2090700@nobugconsulting.ro> References: <45E5B22D.5060306@fedoraproject.org> <13dbfe4f0702281007y493c60ffh8c148fc570bf744f@mail.gmail.com> <45E601E1.2090700@nobugconsulting.ro> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703010214m6448d5c2p47b71d43aa33ba24@mail.gmail.com> On 2/28/07, lonely wolf wrote: > make them public and I'll do my best for the Romanian translation. Here it is http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ChitleshGoorah?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=enhance_chit.odp However don't start translating it now, I'll update it first for F7 and removed useless bits. I'll inform on the list once done. Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 1 10:29:09 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:29:09 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Some Idea....please reply In-Reply-To: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it> References: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703010229oc89ac4p515f0668308d626f@mail.gmail.com> On 3/1/07, Giuseppe Pignataro wrote: > 1) My first idea is to create a site like linuxcounter for people that use > Fedora. We have started http://www.frappr.com/fedora in the past. Perhaps we should be focusing on that effort. I see it's an idea from ubuntu :) http://ubuntucounter.org/ Have a look at the post (+ replies) : "the danger of becoming a cargo cult" https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2007-February/msg00177.html Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From fhornain at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 11:17:30 2007 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:17:30 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM 07 Message-ID: <3161376e0703010317r7f255154t33cb266757ed032b@mail.gmail.com> De http://www.simline.de/fosdem -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 1 11:33:51 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:33:51 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM 07 In-Reply-To: <3161376e0703010317r7f255154t33cb266757ed032b@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0703010317r7f255154t33cb266757ed032b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703010333k7874afacna96a1845b1e56b5b@mail.gmail.com> On 3/1/07, Frederic Hornain wrote: > http://www.simline.de/fosdem Hello, thanks to J?rgSimon for those pictures :) I hope your daughter is doing well now, since to what I heard you couldn't come because she was sick. However, we managed without you :) we were way to many at the booth, but at the same time we got many compliments at the booth from the visitors. I need to write my report so that perhaps you might see what happened :) Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From fhornain at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 11:34:34 2007 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:34:34 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM 07 Feed Back Message-ID: <3161376e0703010334m79deb0ddo91b321bc1dab012c@mail.gmail.com> Dear *, First of all, sorry for the wrong manipulation ! Then I would like to excuse myself to have missed at the last minute this fabulous event this year but as I told to Chitlesh last friday unfortunatly my daughter was very ill and I could not be there. I had to take care of her. Sorry again. :( Nonetheless, I have seen that Fedora presence was successfull. I looked at pictures at http://www.simline.de/fosdem and I recognized some ambassadors that I met previouly. I have also seen that OLPC laptop was at the Fedora Booth as planned. However, I would be very interesting by your fresh feed back in order to improve this event next year. I know already that we would have to increase the size of the booth. Sorry for that but I did not know at the reservation time that as much as Fedora people came. So, Did you have any problems with the Dev'room ? Did you have any problem with the Hardware Insurance ? Do you think that Red Hat and Fedora would have a common booth or a separate booth close each other ? What kind of improvment would you suggest for next year ? What do you think about an annual FUDCON at FOSDEM for EMEA Fedora users ? And so on and so for .... Thanks in advance for you answers. BR Fred ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From agk at redhat.com Thu Mar 1 16:47:56 2007 From: agk at redhat.com (Alasdair G Kergon) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:47:56 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Emeritus Ambassadors In-Reply-To: <45E5B22D.5060306@fedoraproject.org> References: <45E5B22D.5060306@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20070301164756.GA8409@agk.surrey.redhat.com> On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:47:41PM +0100, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > I've a small proposal that consist in the creation of a Fedora Emeritus > Ambassador > What do you think? A good idea, but somewhat premature for the people listed? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emeritus The term is used when a person of importance in a given profession retires, so that his or her former rank can still be used in his or her ^^^^^^^ title. This is particularly useful when establishing the authority a person might have to comment, lecture or write on a particular subject. Alasdair -- agk at redhat.com From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 18:31:18 2007 From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 00:31:18 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] release announcement idea [RFC] In-Reply-To: <1172665218.4651.289.camel@erato.phig.org> References: <1172665218.4651.289.camel@erato.phig.org> Message-ID: +1 last month celebrated the "International mother language day" On 28/02/07, Karsten Wade wrote: > > Last release we had an idea that I'm proposing we try for Fedora 7. For > reasons that should be obvious as you read, the Ambassadors seem to be a > natural group to do this. Perhaps in coordination/collaboration with > Fedora Translation/L10n contributors? > > The basic idea is to distribute to countries/regions a list of "talking > points". Talking points are specific items we want to see covered in > any release announcement. Then each region/language can choose to i) > form a small team, and ii) collaborate to write a truly localized > release announcement. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/ReleaseAnnouncements#Process > > Background > ---------- > > In the past, the announcement introduction has been written in English > in a semi-humorous way. To understand it, you had to know specific > cultural references. This made them fairly impossible to translate (or > transliterate). Or even understand, period. > > This new method would rely entirely upon the local groups to collaborate > on an announcement, then distribute it within their region as a formal > Fedora release announcement. One place to start is fedora-announce. > > How many different language announcements can we get on fedora-announce > for Fedora 7? > > One concern that is that a release announcement is a very big chance to > start misinformation about Fedora. For example, an announcement may be > written in a language not read by most of the Fedora leadership, and the > authors accidentally choose terms or phrasing that reflect negatively on > Fedora. The quality of the writing or grammar also reflects on Fedora. > > To lower this risk, it seems like a good idea to have the release > announcement draft due for review by the final test (usually test3, > occasionally test4). Every draft announcement then needs an independent > review by a reader of that language. > > I'm sure that this has been done informally in various countries. This > idea is to formalize the process, recognize the people involved with the > honor of speaking LOUDLY for Fedora, and make an ever bigger impact with > this next release. > > - Karsten > -- > Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project > Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject > quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 > ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- ??? ????? mak --------------------------------------------------------------- First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There is almost no topic that can be on both lists at the same > time. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PostIsOffTopic#fedora-ambassadors-list > > If a post does not match the topic as defined there, it is off topic and > needs to be posted somewhere else. > > I wanted to call this out in particular so people understand why their > post receives a link to PostIsOffTopic. :) > > - Karsten > (Non-cross-posted message with a different Subject but similar > topic/wording has been posted to the marketing list) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list I strongly agree. I have a question: who decide it? Francesco Ugolini -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From kwade at redhat.com Thu Mar 1 20:09:56 2007 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:09:56 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] The end of cross-posting In-Reply-To: <45E7226C.8090102@fedoraproject.org> References: <1172775352.4651.453.camel@erato.phig.org> <45E7226C.8090102@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1172779796.4651.485.camel@erato.phig.org> On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 19:58 +0100, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > I strongly agree. I have a question: who decide it? Who decided that we have separate topics for the two lists? I thought that was evident from the discussion, and it was specifically mentioned in Patrick's email to this list. As for the request to end cross-posting, it is more of a community decision. Fedora follows general FLOSS practices, which frown upon cross-posting. Similar with PostIsOffTopic, it is a general practice to ask people to post to the appropriate location. If we answer the off-topic questions, it encourages people to post off-topic again. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Fedora follows general FLOSS practices, which frown upon > cross-posting. Similar with PostIsOffTopic, it is a general practice to > ask people to post to the appropriate location. If we answer the > off-topic questions, it encourages people to post off-topic again. > > - Karsten > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Great, sorry but i miss a piece of the discussion. Sorry. Thanks very much. Francesco Ugolini -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From ncorrare at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 1 21:03:59 2007 From: ncorrare at fedoraproject.org (Nicolas Antonio Corrarello) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:03:59 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] OLPC In-Reply-To: <45E6CDC2.70504@glezos.com> References: <45E685CA.4060304@fedoraproject.org> <45E6CDC2.70504@glezos.com> Message-ID: <45E73FBF.6030503@fedoraproject.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Some shots of myself in the OLPC press conference http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/NicolasCorrarello/OLPC27022007 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF5z+/4UWy+d/Ik+4RAmDoAJ91U50+4+LhWobm3/xWnDerJ+6T9QCfbmO1 JJiijv8UfKs8Ujg+2rxb8ag= =jREY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From marek at mahut.be Thu Mar 1 21:46:42 2007 From: marek at mahut.be (Marek Mahut) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:46:42 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM 07 In-Reply-To: <3161376e0703010317r7f255154t33cb266757ed032b@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0703010317r7f255154t33cb266757ed032b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070301214642.GA29535@darken> Hello Frederic, Thank you for these photos - and I hope that your dauther is going better. I saw other people take photos, can you upload them too ? Thank for advance! /Marek. On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:17:30PM +0100, Frederic Hornain wrote: > De > > > http://www.simline.de/fosdem > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Olpc mailing list > olpc-open at laptop.org > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Best Regards, Marek Mahut From marek at mahut.be Thu Mar 1 21:58:45 2007 From: marek at mahut.be (Marek Mahut) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:58:45 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM 07 Feed Back In-Reply-To: <3161376e0703010334m79deb0ddo91b321bc1dab012c@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0703010334m79deb0ddo91b321bc1dab012c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070301215845.GB29535@darken> On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:34:34PM +0100, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Dear *, > > First of all, sorry for the wrong manipulation ! > > Then I would like to excuse myself to have missed at the last minute this > fabulous event this year but as I told to Chitlesh last friday > unfortunatly my daughter was very ill and I could not be there. I had to > take care of her. > Sorry again. :( Hello Frederic again - I think that everybody understood it. We hope that your dauther is going well now. > > Nonetheless, I have seen that Fedora presence was successfull. > I looked at pictures at http://www.simline.de/fosdem and I recognized some > ambassadors that I met previouly. > > I have also seen that OLPC laptop was at the Fedora Booth as planned. > > However, I would be very interesting by your fresh feed back in order to > improve this event next year. > I know already that we would have to increase the size of the booth. > Sorry for that but I did not know at the reservation time that as much as > Fedora people came. >From my side, I think that the booth has been great. Even is it was not the same at LinuxTag (as we spoken with Joerg). > > So, > Did you have any problems with the Dev'room ? I don't think so - imho. Anyone got any problems ? > Did you have any problem with the Hardware Insurance ? I didn't use it :) > Do you think that Red Hat and Fedora would have a common booth or a separate > booth close each other ? I don't know if Red Hat will be there next year, but I hope that it will be. And either I don't know what Max is thinking about this - because I share his opinion that Fedora should show that it's maitened by community from most part and not from Red Hat (more after merge of core and extras repo's) - and I don't want to say that Red Hat is not doing a good job from their side. (again it's my humnle opinion). > What kind of improvment would you suggest for next year ? I was surprised that the network was working :P Just suggestion, maybe it's good idea to change the place of booth, as it can be different every year. > What do you think about an annual FUDCON at FOSDEM for EMEA Fedora users ? > And so on and so for .... >From my side, this FOSDEM was best of FOSDEMs. Thanks guys !!! > Thanks in advance for you answers. > > BR > Fred /Marek. From marek at mahut.be Thu Mar 1 22:14:13 2007 From: marek at mahut.be (Marek Mahut) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:14:13 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Emeritus Ambassadors In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0703010214m6448d5c2p47b71d43aa33ba24@mail.gmail.com> References: <45E5B22D.5060306@fedoraproject.org> <13dbfe4f0702281007y493c60ffh8c148fc570bf744f@mail.gmail.com> <45E601E1.2090700@nobugconsulting.ro> <13dbfe4f0703010214m6448d5c2p47b71d43aa33ba24@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070301221413.GC29535@darken> On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:14:39AM +0100, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 2/28/07, lonely wolf wrote: > >make them public and I'll do my best for the Romanian translation. > > Here it is > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ChitleshGoorah?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=enhance_chit.odp > > However don't start translating it now, > I'll update it first for F7 and removed useless bits. > I'll inform on the list once done. Hello Chitlesh, Your presentation is great ! Do you think that I can use some of your slide to create my presentation about Fedora in Slovak for linux at fest that will take place in Bratislava on 17th March ? > Chitlesh > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com thanks /Marek.> From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 2 01:09:33 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:09:33 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards Message-ID: <369bce3b0703011709q3bd649deofd6ade7bff305482@mail.gmail.com> RE: Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards Date: March 1st, 2007 It is my pleasure to announce following Ambassadors will receive Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards! * ChitleshGoorah * GeroldKassube * ThomasCanniot * JoergSimon * FrancescoUgolini On behalf of Fedora Ambassadors Project, thank you for your hard work and congratulations! Best Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From wcervini at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 02:57:45 2007 From: wcervini at gmail.com (Walter Cervini) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:57:45 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703011709q3bd649deofd6ade7bff305482@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0703011709q3bd649deofd6ade7bff305482@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1172804265.5591.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Congratulations, boys. This is an example, for other comunity, to promote linux around the world, and prestige for the Fedora Team. El jue, 01-03-2007 a las 17:09 -0800, Thomas Chung escribi?: > RE: Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards > > Date: March 1st, 2007 > > It is my pleasure to announce following Ambassadors will receive > Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards! > > * ChitleshGoorah > * GeroldKassube > * ThomasCanniot > * JoergSimon > * FrancescoUgolini > > On behalf of Fedora Ambassadors Project, thank you for your hard work > and congratulations! > > Best Regards, -- Walter Cervini wcervini at gmail.com Linux User Since 1990 Linux Counter 353289 Fedora Ambassador Venezuela Fedora-ve.org Group -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Saludos, ---HernanPachas On 3/1/07, Nicolas Antonio Corrarello wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Some shots of myself in the OLPC press conference > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/NicolasCorrarello/OLPC27022007 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFF5z+/4UWy+d/Ik+4RAmDoAJ91U50+4+LhWobm3/xWnDerJ+6T9QCfbmO1 > JJiijv8UfKs8Ujg+2rxb8ag= > =jREY > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Fri Mar 2 13:07:37 2007 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:07:37 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards In-Reply-To: <1172804265.5591.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <369bce3b0703011709q3bd649deofd6ade7bff305482@mail.gmail.com> <1172804265.5591.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <45E82199.1030302@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Congratulations guys!! ASS: Rodrigo Padula Brazil Walter Cervini escreveu: > Congratulations, boys. > This is an example, for other comunity, to promote linux around the > world, and prestige for the Fedora Team. > > > > El jue, 01-03-2007 a las 17:09 -0800, Thomas Chung escribi?: >> RE: Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards >> >> Date: March 1st, 2007 >> >> It is my pleasure to announce following Ambassadors will receive >> Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards! >> >> * ChitleshGoorah >> * GeroldKassube >> * ThomasCanniot >> * JoergSimon >> * FrancescoUgolini >> >> On behalf of Fedora Ambassadors Project, thank you for your hard work >> and congratulations! >> >> Best Regards, >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF6CGZPg3HAC1vlg4RAoU8AJsHD8mGV6BiSbFMqjknzl6ss/cM7QCgjScD 5TV/YNPpUUrQlbQXDidm8WA= =j+cj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Fri Mar 2 13:19:05 2007 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:19:05 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fwd: Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards In-Reply-To: <1172816277.3451.8.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> References: <369bce3b0703011709q3bd649deofd6ade7bff305482@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0703011713k50597a2fl75da6b1e9b454cf8@mail.gmail.com> <1172816277.3451.8.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> Message-ID: <1172841545.3303.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le vendredi 02 mars 2007 ? 07:17 +0100, Gerold Kassube a ?crit : > it's again a great pleasure and honor for me to be the third time > awarded (out of three) ... > > > on the other hand it hurts me to see, that there is no Ambassador > outside Europe which is awarded :-( > > Dear Max, dear Thomas ... > > PLEASE be so kind and have a look what happens with the other regions; > it cann't be or better; I cann't believe that we in EMEA are the active > part of the Ambassador and the "Rest of the world" did nothing .... > Me for myself outgoing from my perspective cann't nominate an Ambassador > from India or the U.S. because unfortunately I don't know them (well) > and know what these guys are doing. So I nominate exclusive EMEA > Ambassadors who I know and also know what he's doing or has done ... > You're entirely right. I don't know how a reward must be seen. From my point of you, rewards for "good" work or to be honest (?), for "excessive buzzing" does not motivate myself more than I am already. I don't think a day about being rewarded for being an ambassador, and I would be very pleased to give my reward to someone for which it would be useful, i.e. motivating. If it can help / encourage people to spread the word about fedora in their countries, then I would be very pleased to give it to any body in Russia, India, Australia, Japan, China or any other country in these areas. I think this is definitely something we have to think about. ps: however, if you've got a job at RH, I would be very pleased to be hired :D Thomas Canniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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"Red Hat" didn't have a booth at all this past year, and even if it did, I think it's important to have them separate, because the corporate and community sides of Red Hat are quite different. That's why we have a separate Fedora brand to begin with. > What do you think about an annual FUDCON at FOSDEM for EMEA Fedora users > ? And so on and so for .... I think that what we did this year was very good. Treating our series of talks in the DevRoom as sort of a mini FUDCon worked well. I was very happy with the event. --Max -- Max Spevack + http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MaxSpevack + gpg key -- http://spevack.org/max.asc + fingerprint -- CD52 5E72 369B B00D 9E9A 773E 2FDB CB46 5A17 CF21 From jmbabich at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 07:51:14 2007 From: jmbabich at gmail.com (John Babich) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:51:14 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards In-Reply-To: <1172815612.3603.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <369bce3b0703011709q3bd649deofd6ade7bff305482@mail.gmail.com> <1172815612.3603.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <9d2c731f0703012351k1df3890ev6e55721255e68b82@mail.gmail.com> Congratulations to all. John Babich From jeremy at linuxwiz.net Fri Mar 2 17:20:04 2007 From: jeremy at linuxwiz.net (Gaddis, Jeremy L.) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:20:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] IU LinuxFest - 11-Apr-2007 - clarification, please. Message-ID: Good {morning|afternoon|evening} list, Please forgive what may be my ignorance as I have just recently become involved with the Fedora Project, am still trying to take everything in, and am sure there are things I don't yet completely understand. IU LinuxFest[1] is an annual, one-day event organized by the Unix Systems Support Group[2] at Indiana University[3] to draw attention to Linux from students, faculty, staff, and the general public. Though not on behalf on the Fedora Project, I have attended this annual event for the last several years. Seeing as how I recently became involved in the Fedora Project as an Ambassador, I thought this would be an excellent first opportunity to help promote Fedora. I know the organizers of this event and have been reserved booth space for a Fedora display. "How to be an Ambassador"[4] states, "For the first 30 days, the status of a newbie Ambassador will be 'on probation', during which time they have a chance to prove themselves to the group by contributing to the project (see Ideas below)". Under Ideas, one thing listed is "Sign up Fedora Project for regional events", which I have now done. Unfortunately, the Material Request Form[5] states, "Ambassadors must also complete at[sic] thirty-day probation period before they can request new merchandise, ...". Last October, I once again attended the Ohio LinuxFest in Columbus, Ohio, and witnessed a Fedora booth there (manned by Jeffrey Tadlock, perhaps?). It was well set-up and looked very nice with the Fedora banners and such (yes, I bought a bumper sticker and t-shirt!). Ideally, I would like to be able to obtain a banner to set up at the booth. I understand that t-shirts are on short supply and probably out of the question, but that's not an issue. I can burn a few hundred Fedora DVDs and eat the cost myself, that's not an issue either. Since I am still under the umbrella of the 30-day probationary period, however, am I correct in my understanding that I cannot request items such as a banner for temporary usage at a Linux event and that I am pretty much left up to my own resources to handle this? Any clarification is appreciated. [1] http://tinyurl.com/2voxb4 [2] http://www.ussg.indiana.edu/ [3] http://www.indiana.edu/ [4] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/HowTo [5] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff Thanks, -j -- Jeremy L. Gaddis, MCP, GCWN jeremy at linuxwiz.net LinuxWiz Consulting http://linuxwiz.net From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 07:05:40 2007 From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:05:40 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards In-Reply-To: <1172815612.3603.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <369bce3b0703011709q3bd649deofd6ade7bff305482@mail.gmail.com> <1172815612.3603.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: ???????? ?????? (in bangla, Congrats all) On 02/03/07, Abhishek Singh wrote: > > Congrats guys!! > > Regards > Abhishek Singh > On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 17:09 -0800, Thomas Chung wrote: > > RE: Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards > > > > Date: March 1st, 2007 > > > > It is my pleasure to announce following Ambassadors will receive > > Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards! > > > > * ChitleshGoorah > > * GeroldKassube > > * ThomasCanniot > > * JoergSimon > > * FrancescoUgolini > > > > On behalf of Fedora Ambassadors Project, thank you for your hard work > > and congratulations! > > > > Best Regards, > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- ??? ????? mak --------------------------------------------------------------- First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 2 20:25:16 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:25:16 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] IU LinuxFest - 11-Apr-2007 - clarification, please. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <369bce3b0703021225x5a48c7bbs52d6ce7cb233f4e9@mail.gmail.com> On 3/2/07, Gaddis, Jeremy L. wrote: > Good {morning|afternoon|evening} list, > > Please forgive what may be my ignorance as I have just recently become > involved with the Fedora Project, am still trying to take everything > in, and am sure there are things I don't yet completely understand. > > IU LinuxFest[1] is an annual, one-day event organized by the Unix > Systems Support Group[2] at Indiana University[3] to draw attention to > Linux from students, faculty, staff, and the general public. Though > not on behalf on the Fedora Project, I have attended this annual event > for the last several years. > > Seeing as how I recently became involved in the Fedora Project as an > Ambassador, I thought this would be an excellent first opportunity to > help promote Fedora. I know the organizers of this event and have > been reserved booth space for a Fedora display. > > "How to be an Ambassador"[4] states, "For the first 30 days, the > status of a newbie Ambassador will be 'on probation', during which > time they have a chance to prove themselves to the group by > contributing to the project (see Ideas below)". Under Ideas, one > thing listed is "Sign up Fedora Project for regional events", which I > have now done. > > Unfortunately, the Material Request Form[5] states, "Ambassadors must > also complete at[sic] thirty-day probation period before they can > request new merchandise, ...". > > Last October, I once again attended the Ohio LinuxFest in Columbus, > Ohio, and witnessed a Fedora booth there (manned by Jeffrey Tadlock, > perhaps?). It was well set-up and looked very nice with the Fedora > banners and such (yes, I bought a bumper sticker and t-shirt!). > > Ideally, I would like to be able to obtain a banner to set up at the > booth. I understand that t-shirts are on short supply and probably > out of the question, but that's not an issue. I can burn a few > hundred Fedora DVDs and eat the cost myself, that's not an issue > either. > > Since I am still under the umbrella of the 30-day probationary period, > however, am I correct in my understanding that I cannot request items > such as a banner for temporary usage at a Linux event and that I am > pretty much left up to my own resources to handle this? > > Any clarification is appreciated. > > [1] http://tinyurl.com/2voxb4 > [2] http://www.ussg.indiana.edu/ > [3] http://www.indiana.edu/ > [4] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/HowTo > [5] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff > > Thanks, > -j > > -- > Jeremy L. Gaddis, MCP, GCWN jeremy at linuxwiz.net > LinuxWiz Consulting http://linuxwiz.net Hi Jeremy, Don't concern too much about "30-day probation". This is when you're getting familiar with Fedora Project and Ambassadors Project. Please submit your media request for your event via Ambassadors Media Request Form. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff I'll ask Max if we can afford to create a banner for you. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From jeremy at linuxwiz.net Fri Mar 2 22:45:00 2007 From: jeremy at linuxwiz.net (Gaddis, Jeremy L.) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:45:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] IU LinuxFest - 11-Apr-2007 - clarification, please. In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703021225x5a48c7bbs52d6ce7cb233f4e9@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0703021225x5a48c7bbs52d6ce7cb233f4e9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Thomas Chung wrote: >> Since I am still under the umbrella of the 30-day probationary period, >> however, am I correct in my understanding that I cannot request items >> such as a banner for temporary usage at a Linux event and that I am >> pretty much left up to my own resources to handle this? > > Don't concern too much about "30-day probation". This is when you're > getting familiar with Fedora Project and Ambassadors Project. > Please submit your media request for your event via Ambassadors Media > Request Form. I will do that, thanks. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff > I'll ask Max if we can afford to create a banner for you. If you have to purchase one or have one made, I'd say don't worry about it too much. I (perhaps wrongly) assumed that there were at least a few of these "stashed" somewhere and that one could be shipped out to me for use at the event. Thanks for the clarification, Thomas. -j -- Jeremy L. Gaddis, MCP, GCWN jeremy at linuxwiz.net LinuxWiz Consulting http://linuxwiz.net From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Sat Mar 3 00:30:48 2007 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:30:48 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linux+ Magazine Message-ID: <45E8C1B8.4030709@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi!! Linux+ special edition about Fedora Core 6 Article to download: http://www.lpmagazine.org/en/linuxplus/issues/1_2007.html ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira Brazil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF6MG3Pg3HAC1vlg4RAkabAKCVrmJn6HrI2KefU5fBBL6z5hbwWgCeLtYL j8BwCY6yp+Iw+nj9WZ1S1dY= =Rnuv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From linux at elfshadow.net Sat Mar 3 02:19:02 2007 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:19:02 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] IU LinuxFest - 11-Apr-2007 - clarification, please. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45E8DB16.5050100@elfshadow.net> Gaddis, Jeremy L. wrote: > Last October, I once again attended the Ohio LinuxFest in Columbus, > Ohio, and witnessed a Fedora booth there (manned by Jeffrey Tadlock, > perhaps?). It was well set-up and looked very nice with the Fedora > banners and such (yes, I bought a bumper sticker and t-shirt!). Yes, that was me. I remember meeting you at the booth. > If you have to purchase one or have one made, I'd say don't worry > about it too much. The banner I had at Ohio Linux Fest was one that Max shipped to me for the event and then I shipped back to him. Hopefully they will be able to hook you up with that one without the need to make a new one. I can help you with some of the Fedora Stickers. We had some left from the Ohio Linux Fest. If you want to email me off-list your snail mail address I can ship some out next week sometime. Good to see you off to a running start! Good luck with your event! --Jeffrey From linux at elfshadow.net Sat Mar 3 03:56:24 2007 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:56:24 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Max's Blog Post re: Ambassadors Discussion In-Reply-To: <1172482025.3525.8.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> References: <45E1D317.1070801@elfshadow.net> <1172482025.3525.8.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> Message-ID: <45E8F1E8.5000508@elfshadow.net> Gerold Kassube wrote: > Why not set up an wiki-page and collect what other Ambassadors, > attendees of booth think what is needed and usefull?! I have setup a wiki page [1] for the Event Box proposal. This project is only early in the proposal stage, but I encourage other Ambassadors to add items to the page or comment on the list about the proposal. --Jeffrey [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox From gdk at redhat.com Sat Mar 3 04:11:45 2007 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 23:11:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Max's Blog Post re: Ambassadors Discussion In-Reply-To: <45E8F1E8.5000508@elfshadow.net> References: <45E1D317.1070801@elfshadow.net> <1172482025.3525.8.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <45E8F1E8.5000508@elfshadow.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: > Gerold Kassube wrote: >> Why not set up an wiki-page and collect what other Ambassadors, >> attendees of booth think what is needed and usefull?! > > I have setup a wiki page [1] for the Event Box proposal. This project > is only early in the proposal stage, but I encourage other Ambassadors > to add items to the page or comment on the list about the proposal. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that we could probably fund the creation of this event box. The biggest open questions have to do with customs fees and such like that -- but if it's one event box, I think we could manage this. We'll also need an efficient handoff mechanism, but I think the wiki could accomplish that nicely. --g ------------------------------------------------------------- Greg DeKoenigsberg || Fedora Project || fedoraproject.org Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors ------------------------------------------------------------- From jeremy at linuxwiz.net Sat Mar 3 18:26:13 2007 From: jeremy at linuxwiz.net (Gaddis, Jeremy L.) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:26:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] IU LinuxFest - 11-Apr-2007 - clarification, please. In-Reply-To: <45E8DB16.5050100@elfshadow.net> References: <45E8DB16.5050100@elfshadow.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: > The banner I had at Ohio Linux Fest was one that Max shipped to me for > the event and then I shipped back to him. Hopefully they will be able > to hook you up with that one without the need to make a new one. That's what I was hoping as well. If Max can get one to me, I'll take care of getting it back post-event. > I can help you with some of the Fedora Stickers. We had some left from > the Ohio Linux Fest. If you want to email me off-list your snail mail > address I can ship some out next week sometime. That would be awesome. Separate e-mail coming your way... Max, if you have any more of those Fedora flip-flops, I'd be happy to take some of those off your hands as well. This event is at a University, and the students are always interested in any swag. =) FWIW, IU, as well as the .edu I work for, both have campus-wide RHEL subscriptions. =) > Good to see you off to a running start! Good luck with your event! Thanks! -j -- Jeremy L. Gaddis, MCP, GCWN jeremy at linuxwiz.net LinuxWiz Consulting http://linuxwiz.net From nihedmm at gmail.com Sat Mar 3 19:41:50 2007 From: nihedmm at gmail.com (nihed mbarek) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:41:50 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Report of the event "Free software and proprietary software, a choice for complementarity" Message-ID: <5bddd8fd0703031141t56ebfd43h50b8e55d91afb8ec@mail.gmail.com> In February 28 took place an event in the technological pole El Ghazela, Tunisia, called "Free software and proprietary software, a choice for complementarity". It was an opportunity for me and a friend to present The Fedora Project. Many persons belonging to different fields found out how to create a local Fedora repository and to make LAMP architecture work. We used Fedora France banner with some modifications: http://nihedmbarek.googlepages.com/affiche-fedora.png Some pictures of the event: http://infoplusplus.blogspot.com/2007/03/image-du-27-fev-2007.html -- M'BAREK Med Nihed, Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It seem the event was not been entered in our FedoraEvents page. I'll go ahread add in PastEvents page for the record. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Sun Mar 4 10:26:31 2007 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 11:26:31 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1930 Message-ID: <1173003991.3423.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2007-03-04 / 19:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-mktg-fr Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (04 mars) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-mktg-fr . Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From nihedmm at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 06:54:19 2007 From: nihedmm at gmail.com (nihed mbarek) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 07:54:19 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Report of the event "Free software and proprietary software, a choice for complementarity" In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703032052q191b3300v30194e5536970bbf@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bddd8fd0703031141t56ebfd43h50b8e55d91afb8ec@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0703032052q191b3300v30194e5536970bbf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5bddd8fd0703032254r2772af2ete2139fbc8e54993e@mail.gmail.com> Hi in the future, i will add the list of event that i will participate. thxs to add this event in last event. and good job for all ambassadors 2007/3/4, Thomas Chung : > > On 3/3/07, nihed mbarek wrote: > > In February 28 took place an event in the technological pole El Ghazela, > > Tunisia, called "Free software and proprietary software, a choice for > > complementarity". > > It was an opportunity for me and a friend to present The Fedora Project. > > Many persons belonging to different fields found out how to create a > local > > Fedora repository and to make LAMP architecture work. > > We used Fedora France banner with some modifications: > > http://nihedmbarek.googlepages.com/affiche-fedora.png > > Some pictures of the event: > > http://infoplusplus.blogspot.com/2007/03/image-du-27-fev-2007.html > > > > -- > > M'BAREK Med Nihed, > > Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa > > Thank you for the report. > It seem the event was not been entered in our FedoraEvents page. > I'll go ahread add in PastEvents page for the record. > Regards, > -- > Thomas Chung > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- M'BAREK Med Nihed, Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Read this: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/21/1340237 ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira www.projetofedora.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF7HaEPg3HAC1vlg4RAsskAKC1Z/IrrMezxF7IGxDrZi8Ee6zdjwCglj42 y5joYSTrXwb2ctsMPtEyaD8= =FW+9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mattdm at mattdm.org Mon Mar 5 19:57:43 2007 From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:57:43 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora In-Reply-To: <45EC7695.4080502@projetofedora.org> References: <45EC7695.4080502@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <20070305195743.GA8075@jadzia.bu.edu> On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 04:59:17PM -0300, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: > Hi Guys! > Read this: > http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/21/1340237 Or, really, really, really, don't. (It's the ESR "hey everybody look at me" letter again.) -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org Boston University Linux ------> From mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com Mon Mar 5 20:52:09 2007 From: mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mirjam_W=E4ckerlin?=) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 21:52:09 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure Message-ID: <2afa92000703051252n2e4f5e47t9d7360e3b1bf022e@mail.gmail.com> Hello, Chitlesh and I we created the draft for Fedora European Infrastructure with the help of some people on #fedora-mktg. The Page still needs a lot of work, add your constructive comments and proposals on: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/Europe This is the first draft as a result of the discussions at fosdem 2007. This draft should be completed and hopefully someone will step in for the post as the Fedora European Executive before LinuxTag 2007 Berlin. After LinuxTag the real work should get started. Subscription to the wikipage is adviced. Regards, Mirjam From robert at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 5 21:00:53 2007 From: robert at fedoraproject.org (Robert Scheck) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 22:00:53 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self introduction about Robert Scheck Message-ID: <20070305210053.GA10073@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> Hello folks, my name is Scheck, Robert Scheck. Currently, I'm 21 years old and I'm from Germany. Maybe you know my name from Bugzilla reports after updating my development system to Fedora Core Development, anciently called Rawhide. I'm also writing some e-mails from time to time to fedora-devel-list and fedora-extras-list. Professionally, I'm a programmer at Linux and ERP (Enterprise Resource Planning) environments working for a young and tiny IT company called ETES GmbH. Some time before I did my apprenticeship to IT specialist field systems integration at Hewlett-Packard Germany as result of my personal interest in computers started in December 1998. And in July 2004, I did my certification as Red Hat Certified Technician - during my apprenticeship, but paid by me! ;-) As you surely recognized, I'm more technical related, thus I'm maintainer for 10 packages in Fedora Extras. Oh, but I'm not a greenhorn regarding the representation of company, projects and products: At the CeBIT 2003 in Hannover/Germany I was presenting "wireless clinic" and mobile solutions for on-site technicians for HP - but on the Microsoft booth while listening and watching the Microsoft Windows 2003 Server clips and announcements. It's no joke, even it maybe sounds funny for a Linux guy. Of course I did the same at the HP booth when switching with colleagues from there... When thinking about this, it's a good time to repent at the LinuxTag 2007 in Berlin/Germany which is my initial goal as Fedora Ambassador. At first, I'll mainly support Gerold Kassube and Florian Brand until things for the days are clarified. Finally I want to say thanks to Gerold, who encouraged me to walk this way and to get an ambassador. Greetings, Robert From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 5 22:44:20 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:44:20 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] fosdem2007: report Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703051444h3501ab94t3ef5fd0561d50a5b@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, Here is my report: http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2007/02/fosdem2007-switching-language-conflicts.html#links Things that we have done at the booth and what visitors liked: * a paper saying what are the languages Fedora Booth staffs can speak * well decorated booth * women at the fedora booth * professional booth staffs rather than geeks with long hair and beards * polo-shirts * people like to engage into discussions to booth staff directly rather than someone who is constantly behind a screen. * to hear new features * what makes fedora so special What we lacked: * business cards (though it is already among the Fedora Ambassador wiki items) * any way so that visitors or anyone can see with whom they are talking too What we have achieved: * good contacts with centos * talks on packaging guidelines with opensuse * internal fedora talks between various fedora contributors (marketing,documentation,packaging,translation...) * internal fedora talks between max and fedora contributors * chemnitz linuxtag preparation * preparing LinuxTag2007 Berlin Fudcon * "Fedora European Infrastructure" drafts regards, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 5 23:08:33 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 00:08:33 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] CeBIT2007 Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703051508r7613aec6i7f18e4174d7dcd98@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, CeBIT 2007 will take place in Hannover during March 15-21 2007. There will be no booth for Fedora at CeBIT2007. But KDE will be present at CeBIT 2007. http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=CeBIT2007 I've contacted the appropriate kde organizer and I can be at their booth during that event on 19-20 March (these days I'm free). But I have been informed that I can't be a Fedora Ambassador at the booth but a KDE booth staff. So to the visitors, I'll talk only about KDE and not Fedora! My initial motivation is to go there and talk to KDE folks about Fedora's KDE spin. Surely in the intention to recruit one or more contributors for the Fedora KDE SIG :) I've left at the KDE booth (Chemnitz LinuxTag) yesterday afternoon for CeBIT: - 40 DVDs (i386) - 10 DVDs (x86_64) and I'll be bringing again - 40 DVDs (i386) - 10 DVDs (x86_64) So in all, There will be 100 DVDs at the KDE booth for CeBIT. On all those dvds, I've been requested to stick a note saying how to install KDE from the fedora dvds. Cheers, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 6 10:25:54 2007 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:25:54 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure In-Reply-To: <2afa92000703051252n2e4f5e47t9d7360e3b1bf022e@mail.gmail.com> References: <2afa92000703051252n2e4f5e47t9d7360e3b1bf022e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45ED41B2.1090100@fedoraproject.org> Mirjam W?ckerlin ha scritto: > Hello, > > Chitlesh and I we created the draft for Fedora European Infrastructure > with the help of some people on #fedora-mktg. > The Page still needs a lot of work, add your constructive comments and > proposals on: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/Europe > > This is the first draft as a result of the discussions at fosdem 2007. > > This draft should be completed and hopefully someone will step in for > the post as the Fedora European Executive before LinuxTag 2007 Berlin. > > After LinuxTag the real work should get started. > > Subscription to the wikipage is adviced. > > Regards, > > Mirjam > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Excellent! I think that the base is perfect, now we have to work to develop this draft with the help of ALL European Ambassadors and all Ambassadors interested. I have a "little" question: Will he be a permanent Coordinator? If yes, i agree, because i think that it's necessary continuity to make a work well, not only, he would be a reference point to all Ambassadors. (In my opinion a Central Europe's Ambassador would be perfect, because the big events are there). Regards Francesco Ugolini -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 6 10:31:50 2007 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:31:50 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure In-Reply-To: <45ED41B2.1090100@fedoraproject.org> References: <2afa92000703051252n2e4f5e47t9d7360e3b1bf022e@mail.gmail.com> <45ED41B2.1090100@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <45ED4316.1040004@fedoraproject.org> Francesco Ugolini ha scritto: > Mirjam W?ckerlin ha scritto: >> Hello, >> >> Chitlesh and I we created the draft for Fedora European Infrastructure >> with the help of some people on #fedora-mktg. >> The Page still needs a lot of work, add your constructive comments and >> proposals on: >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/Europe >> >> This is the first draft as a result of the discussions at fosdem 2007. >> >> This draft should be completed and hopefully someone will step in for >> the post as the Fedora European Executive before LinuxTag 2007 Berlin. >> >> After LinuxTag the real work should get started. >> >> Subscription to the wikipage is adviced. >> >> Regards, >> >> Mirjam >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > Excellent! I think that the base is perfect, now we have to work to > develop this draft with the help of ALL European Ambassadors and all > Ambassadors interested. > > I have a "little" question: Will he be a permanent Coordinator? If yes, > i agree, because i think that it's necessary continuity to make a work > well, not only, he would be a reference point to all Ambassadors. (In my > opinion a Central Europe's Ambassador would be perfect, because the big > events are there). > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini Sorry for the mistake: when i use "he" i mean "he" and "she" (in fact a women would be the best choice for a Fedora European Coordinator). :) Regards Francesco Ugolini -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From dimitris at glezos.com Tue Mar 6 16:34:33 2007 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 16:34:33 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure In-Reply-To: <45ED41B2.1090100@fedoraproject.org> References: <2afa92000703051252n2e4f5e47t9d7360e3b1bf022e@mail.gmail.com> <45ED41B2.1090100@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <45ED9819.9060004@glezos.com> O/H Francesco Ugolini ??????: > Mirjam W?ckerlin ha scritto: >> Chitlesh and I we created the draft for Fedora European Infrastructure >> with the help of some people on #fedora-mktg. >> The Page still needs a lot of work, add your constructive comments and >> proposals on: >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/Europe >> >> This is the first draft as a result of the discussions at fosdem 2007. >> >> This draft should be completed and hopefully someone will step in for >> the post as the Fedora European Executive before LinuxTag 2007 Berlin. > > Excellent! I think that the base is perfect, now we have to work to > develop this draft with the help of ALL European Ambassadors and all > Ambassadors interested. > > I have a "little" question: Will he be a permanent Coordinator? If yes, > i agree, because i think that it's necessary continuity to make a work > well, not only, he would be a reference point to all Ambassadors. (In my > opinion a Central Europe's Ambassador would be perfect, because the big > events are there). Best thing would be to have a Steering Committee instead of one person, and find a way these persons be chosen under meritocracy [1]. To ensure continuity, in the recent Docs elections, the four top vote receivers serve on FDSCo for a larger period of time (say, 12 months) than the next three vote receivers (6 months). This way we make sure active members on the FDSCo but also a continuity of involvement. Maybe this is a good idea for a FEuSCo (Fedora Europe Steering Committee). I suggest we expand on the Draft to have a much clearer image on what the proposal actually proposes. As I noted in Chitlesh's talk, Europe has some very important characteristics (locality, multilinguality, different laws) that we should make sure the new "Fedora Office" will strategically address. Is there a compelling reason we should rush to do it before Linuxtag '07? -d [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meritocracy -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 6 16:59:09 2007 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 17:59:09 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure In-Reply-To: <45ED9819.9060004@glezos.com> References: <2afa92000703051252n2e4f5e47t9d7360e3b1bf022e@mail.gmail.com> <45ED41B2.1090100@fedoraproject.org> <45ED9819.9060004@glezos.com> Message-ID: <45ED9DDD.4050201@fedoraproject.org> Dimitris Glezos ha scritto: > O/H Francesco Ugolini ??????: >> Mirjam W?ckerlin ha scritto: >>> Chitlesh and I we created the draft for Fedora European Infrastructure >>> with the help of some people on #fedora-mktg. >>> The Page still needs a lot of work, add your constructive comments and >>> proposals on: >>> >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/Europe >>> >>> This is the first draft as a result of the discussions at fosdem 2007. >>> >>> This draft should be completed and hopefully someone will step in for >>> the post as the Fedora European Executive before LinuxTag 2007 Berlin. >> Excellent! I think that the base is perfect, now we have to work to >> develop this draft with the help of ALL European Ambassadors and all >> Ambassadors interested. >> >> I have a "little" question: Will he be a permanent Coordinator? If yes, >> i agree, because i think that it's necessary continuity to make a work >> well, not only, he would be a reference point to all Ambassadors. (In my >> opinion a Central Europe's Ambassador would be perfect, because the big >> events are there). > > Best thing would be to have a Steering Committee instead of one person, and find > a way these persons be chosen under meritocracy [1]. > > To ensure continuity, in the recent Docs elections, the four top vote receivers > serve on FDSCo for a larger period of time (say, 12 months) than the next three > vote receivers (6 months). This way we make sure active members on the FDSCo but > also a continuity of involvement. Maybe this is a good idea for a FEuSCo (Fedora > Europe Steering Committee). > > I suggest we expand on the Draft to have a much clearer image on what the > proposal actually proposes. As I noted in Chitlesh's talk, Europe has some very > important characteristics (locality, multilinguality, different laws) that we > should make sure the new "Fedora Office" will strategically address. > > Is there a compelling reason we should rush to do it before Linuxtag '07? > > -d > > > [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meritocracy > > The idea behind the Fedora European Coordinator is to have an European Reference point, he doesn't override all the other activity, he manage the European Issue. A steering committee would be not useful at all, we need a person who can represent all people, that have all the situation in his hands and be the representative of Fedora European Infrastructure into the Fedora Project. We have just a FAmSCo that is composed by European members, we haven't a Leader... That's my opinion Francesco Ugolini -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 17:18:15 2007 From: mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mirjam_W=E4ckerlin?=) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:18:15 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure In-Reply-To: <45ED9819.9060004@glezos.com> References: <2afa92000703051252n2e4f5e47t9d7360e3b1bf022e@mail.gmail.com> <45ED41B2.1090100@fedoraproject.org> <45ED9819.9060004@glezos.com> Message-ID: <2afa92000703060918t64cd5d00w2e20471b54ba42f8@mail.gmail.com> On 3/6/07, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > O/H Francesco Ugolini ??????: > > Mirjam W?ckerlin ha scritto: > >> > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/Europe > > [...] > > I have a "little" question: Will he be a permanent Coordinator? If yes, > > i agree, because i think that it's necessary continuity to make a work > > well, not only, he would be a reference point to all Ambassadors. (In my > > opinion a Central Europe's Ambassador would be perfect, because the big > > events are there). I don't think that the exact geographical situation is important, since most of the work will have to been done online. Of course, the person should have some knowledge about the most important events and also a good general knowledge about European countries. > Best thing would be to have a Steering Committee instead of one person, One person (or one person and a replacement person in case of emergency) would IMO be best in terms of coordination. If you have Steering Committee they always would have to communicate and coordinate a lot between themselves and would lose a lot of time instead of really moving forward. > and find > a way these persons be chosen under meritocracy [1]. Meritocracy is in general appreciated in FOSS but it's more important to have someone who fits all the requirements,meaning someone with all the needed competences, than to choose someone who's already very busy within the Ambassadors project. The most merited people already have a load of work and maybe not the time to invest constantly a lot of time. > To ensure continuity, in the recent Docs elections, the four top vote receivers > serve on FDSCo for a larger period of time (say, 12 months) than the next three > vote receivers (6 months). This way we make sure active members on the FDSCo but > also a continuity of involvement. Maybe this is a good idea for a FEuSCo (Fedora > Europe Steering Committee). A reelection is a good idea, but a cycle of 6 months is too short for such a task. I propose a cycle of one year. FEuSCo sounds like a european localised subgroup/substitution for FAMSCo but this is not the idea of the European Coordinator (I agree with Francesco). > I suggest we expand on the Draft to have a much clearer image on what the > proposal actually proposes. As I noted in Chitlesh's talk, Europe has some very > important characteristics (locality, multilinguality, different laws) that we > should make sure the new "Fedora Office" will strategically address. The proposal is only a draft and should get more detailed (ideas are appreciated!). But the task of the executive is not to organise the events and know every detail (this will be left to the local Ambassadors), but to coordinate them and distribute resources. > Is there a compelling reason we should rush to do it before Linuxtag '07? There will be a FudCon at LinuxTag where the final decision could be made. If we can't make it by then, it may take a very long time to put the idea into effect. Regards, Mirjam From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 6 17:26:59 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:26:59 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure In-Reply-To: <45ED9819.9060004@glezos.com> References: <2afa92000703051252n2e4f5e47t9d7360e3b1bf022e@mail.gmail.com> <45ED41B2.1090100@fedoraproject.org> <45ED9819.9060004@glezos.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703060926l1ef18766je7c5ed6e6170b02b@mail.gmail.com> On 3/6/07, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > I suggest we expand on the Draft to have a much clearer image on what the > proposal actually proposes. Hello, Sure, let's us know what is missing or simply edit the wiki page. To start the process of _real_ talk, I would propose that the item "Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure" be listed on the weekly meetings. Francesco, can you lead this item during the weekly meetings ? Surely, there must be more attendees as well to discuss that item and improve its status. regards, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 6 17:39:26 2007 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:39:26 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0703060926l1ef18766je7c5ed6e6170b02b@mail.gmail.com> References: <2afa92000703051252n2e4f5e47t9d7360e3b1bf022e@mail.gmail.com> <45ED41B2.1090100@fedoraproject.org> <45ED9819.9060004@glezos.com> <13dbfe4f0703060926l1ef18766je7c5ed6e6170b02b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45EDA74E.9070803@fedoraproject.org> Chitlesh GOORAH ha scritto: > On 3/6/07, Dimitris Glezos wrote: >> I suggest we expand on the Draft to have a much clearer image on what the >> proposal actually proposes. > > Hello, > Sure, let's us know what is missing or simply edit the wiki page. > > To start the process of _real_ talk, I would propose that the item > "Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure" be listed on the weekly > meetings. > > Francesco, can you lead this item during the weekly meetings ? Surely, > there must be more attendees as well to discuss that item and improve > its status. > > regards, > Chitlesh Ok, no problem. Regards Francesco Ugolini -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From armelk at akserver.dyndns.org Tue Mar 6 19:30:24 2007 From: armelk at akserver.dyndns.org (Kermorvant Armel) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:30:24 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure Message-ID: Good Afternoon, I agree with you and I discust about this point with Chitlesh 3 weeks ago and we have the same point of view. But, after a short discussion with himm we share the same point of view about this subjet is : 1st Step : Creation of a legal entity in your country (Exemple Fedora-FR in France) 2nd Step : After the 1st step I OK Why ? - It's necessary we have a really big local community - Strong local message on the Fedora Commnunity. - Prepare the local event and share it with the Europen Fedora team (Exemple Fudcon, I agree it's a major event, but very good exemple to share the knowledge) Best Regards Armel ----- Message Original ----- Sujet: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure De: mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com A: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Date: 05-03-2007 23:03 > Hello, > > Chitlesh and I we created the draft for Fedora European Infrastructure > with the help of some people on #fedora-mktg. > The Page still needs a lot of work, add your constructive comments and > proposals on: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/Europe > > This is the first draft as a result of the discussions at fosdem 2007. > > This draft should be completed and hopefully someone will step in for > the post as the Fedora European Executive before LinuxTag 2007 Berlin. > > After LinuxTag the real work should get started. > > Subscription to the wikipage is adviced. > > Regards, > > Mirjam > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From francesco at ephisia.org Tue Mar 6 19:47:03 2007 From: francesco at ephisia.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:47:03 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't agree with this point of view. I think we have yes to work on localisation but we have to stay together. I know that each country has its problem etc.. but we have to remember we are a Global Community, that have to work together to solve its problem. I want to use to describe this thing the European Motto:" United in the diversity" . I think that Fedora European Infrastructure could help in this sense, without closing each country in their problems but sharing our experiences, ideas and working together to improve ourselves. I've said those word one houndred times but i think they give the sense of this discussion: We need a reference point, that could help all people and could manage our issues: it's impossible to think that USA can manage all those ones, because we are too far. Fedora European Infrastructure will be a tool for european people. Regards Francesco Ugolini 2007/3/6, Kermorvant Armel : > > Good Afternoon, > > I agree with you and I discust about this point > with Chitlesh 3 weeks ago and we have the same > point of view. > But, after a short discussion with himm we share > the same point of view about this subjet is : > > 1st Step : Creation of a legal entity in your > country (Exemple Fedora-FR in France) > 2nd Step : After the 1st step I OK > > Why ? > - It's necessary we have a really big local > community > - Strong local message on the Fedora Commnunity. > - Prepare the local event and share it with the > Europen Fedora team (Exemple Fudcon, I agree it's > a major event, but very good exemple to share the > knowledge) > > > Best Regards > > Armel > > ----- Message Original ----- > Sujet: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European > Infrastructure > De: mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com > A: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Date: 05-03-2007 23:03 > > > > Hello, > > > > Chitlesh and I we created the draft for Fedora > European Infrastructure > > with the help of some people on #fedora-mktg. > > The Page still needs a lot of work, add your > constructive comments and > > proposals on: > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/Europe > > > > This is the first draft as a result of the > discussions at fosdem 2007. > > > > This draft should be completed and hopefully > someone will step in for > > the post as the Fedora European Executive before > LinuxTag 2007 Berlin. > > > > After LinuxTag the real work should get started. > > > > Subscription to the wikipage is adviced. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mirjam > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 7 06:17:24 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 22:17:24 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Events - FLISOL 2007 Message-ID: <369bce3b0703062217o7429be13q8ff861abd461348@mail.gmail.com> All, It comes to my attention we need to clean up following in our FedoraEvents page. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents April 28, 2007 - FLISOL 2007 Buenos Aires - PabloBarrera , NicolasCorrarello April 28, 2007 - FLISOL 2007 - HernanPachas April 28, 2007 - FLISOL 2007 - GuillermoGomez WilmerJaramillo, WalterCervini Do we really need to have 3 separate entries here? If so, we need to distinguish them by adding Country next to FLISOL 2007 Also, please re-write the short description in English Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 7 10:59:32 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:29:32 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45EE9B14.7000603@fedoraproject.org> Kermorvant Armel wrote: > Good Afternoon, > > I agree with you and I discust about this point > with Chitlesh 3 weeks ago and we have the same > point of view. > But, after a short discussion with himm we share > the same point of view about this subjet is : > > 1st Step : Creation of a legal entity in your > country (Exemple Fedora-FR in France) Is there any good reasons to create a separate legal entity on a regional basis? Have you consulted with Red Hat legal on this? Rahul From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 7 13:42:15 2007 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:42:15 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors' meeting reminder - Thursday 8th March 22.00 UTC Message-ID: <45EEC137.3020406@fedoraproject.org> I want to remember all ambassadors that tomorrow there will be a meeting at 22.00 UTC in #fedora-meeting channel. I invite all to attend it to discuss about events, new projects etc... You can see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2007-03-08 to see the agenda or to add new topics to this one. Thanks for your attention Francesco Ugolini -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From simon at simline.de Wed Mar 7 14:54:01 2007 From: simon at simline.de (simon) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:54:01 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] CLT 2007 Message-ID: <200703071554.05744.simon@simline.de> Hello Friends, my report for Chemnitzer Linuxtage 2007 on http://fedoranews.org/cms/node/2757 Cheers JoergSimon -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The FLISOL is a install fest event (Latin American Install Fest) Official site http://www.installfest.info/ Thomas Chung escreveu: > All, > > It comes to my attention we need to clean up following in our > FedoraEvents page. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents ARGENTINA > April 28, 2007 - FLISOL 2007 Buenos Aires - PabloBarrera , > NicolasCorrarello PERU > April 28, 2007 - FLISOL 2007 - HernanPachas VENZUELA > April 28, 2007 - FLISOL 2007 - GuillermoGomez WilmerJaramillo, > WalterCervini > > Do we really need to have 3 separate entries here? > If so, we need to distinguish them by adding Country next to FLISOL 2007 > Also, please re-write the short description in English > > Regards, -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF7wZHPg3HAC1vlg4RApHgAKC4EmfMC8g7Bw/I0eZm4WD0eNUWgQCfS3ga J/z/yXAsfX/r5pFt2wIubW4= =N+6P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 8 21:56:48 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:56:48 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703081356p25fee12dt597e073bcaa5a823@mail.gmail.com> On 3/6/07, Kermorvant Armel wrote: > I agree with you and I discust about this point with Chitlesh 3 weeks ago and we have the >same point of view. > But, after a short discussion with himm we share the same point of view about this > subjet is : > 1st Step : Creation of a legal entity in your country (Exemple Fedora-FR in France) > 2nd Step : After the 1st step I OK I disagreed having Europe moving in that direction. Hello, though, I don't remember when that discussion took place, I think I made it clear that : - the real work should be done at the Fedora Ambassador's project i.e in the other terms Fedora Ambassadors/Marketing Mailing Lists and its meetings - Fedora-fr is for "donations" and the "shop". However, I'm NOT for Fedora-fr being independent from Fedora Ambassador Project. In general, I don't want local communities to be independent of Fedora Ambassador Project. I understand that language is a problem. But should we take language as a blocker for working together ? We have seen in the past: - FAD (Fedora Ambassador Day) - FOSDEM2007 where we had ambassadors and fedora contributors from different countries. Sure we had at some point converged to english as the language for communication, but at the same time Fedora isn't a language contest, but about open-source. Fedora said and will be saying working "the upstream model" is the where progress will be. We have to make sure that Fedora Ambassadors does his job! And at the same time have a look at our Fedora Ambassador Meeting, it's dying !! Meetings have loss its sense and ambassadors don't take part on the project but ready to criticized whenever they feel like. Having legal entity for each country will lead to : - everyone will concentrate on his/her country only under the name of Fedora but not for Fedora - Fedora Marketing and FAMSCo won't know what is happening in your country hence our infrastructure that we are working on will not be useful and someone has to : - tell Max that we are not ready for the infrastructure. - bear all the critics and flame wars that Red Hat is giving up on Fedora or whatever because local communities are too weak to be operating on their own. - agree that he/she refused the infrastructure that will make his/her fedora community better that any other linux project has done or can do. I know many in this list compare fedora projects to ubuntu's, but won't you like not to say/do anything and everything is praising fedora ? Now is the time. The different Fedora Projects operate independently and automatically. But unfortunately each project can't listen and satisfy each contributor. It is the case of the Fedora Ambassadors project where contributors want to do things, but unfortunately to do so for this particular project a minimum budget is required. A Fedora Ambassador is someone who spread the word for Fedora. But unfortunately that Fedora Ambassador is weak without infrastructure and budget to make things for Fedora's advantage. To make that Fedora Ambassadors' life better in terms of infrastructure and budget, there are different ways to do so: - creating local communities and legal entities - sit and cry - sit and wait - use some of the infrastructure and budget that Fedora Marketing has. The last item in our case today is that Max proposed an extra budget for Europe and the question is how can that budget be shared and used appropriately among European Ambassadors ? Eventually, everyone can opt for the _ultimate_ solution[2], i.e "sit and wait". MirjamWaeckerlin, ThomasCanniot, GeroldKassube and I proposed "Fedora European Infrastructure" which is a set of guidelines on what kind of Executive we are looking for. But this ultimate solution[2] will lead to someone needs to do that job and that job will be done according to his/her way. Of course one or two months, some will "sit and cry" because the guidelines : - aren't in their favour - give credit to how hard they worked - .... I'm quite sad that those who said that the actual Fedora Ambassador infrastructure sucks and their requests aren't processed or rejected, that they didn't step in to propose new but concrete ideas. Or perhaps you think that MirjamWaeckerlin, ThomasCanniot, GeroldKassube and I have already done everything. Believe me, we haven't! Things like: - how and on what circumstances the Executive will reimburse a fedora ambassador - can any ambassador be reimbursed ? - is the Executive the one who will provide tshirts or dvds to other european ambassadors - the delay of reimbursed and how - .... needs to be discussed and write as guidelines so that in the future, we know who has what kind of rights. Before we all get confused in unrealistic ideas/suggestions for the future of the "Fedora European Infrastructure", take a short break and look at the picture from an objective point of view. Hai it's is all about money ! - If one country has a way to make money ("see RH legal) for sponsoring their Fedora events, so perhaps don't need that "Fedora European Infrastructure" we are building. - it is not only about spending money, but at the same time, try to bring back some(at least small) amount of money back either from selling dvds/tshirts as donations at the booth. (I was waiting for someone to say such thing, but anyway) JoergSimon and I collected 214? from Chemnitz Linuxtag and right now, he kept the money. But if we had already "Fedora European Infrastructure" we could add it to the Fedora European budget. This means that if someone is coming from Paris or Copenhague and that his/her local community doesn't have enough money perhaps that money of "Fedora European Infrastructure" can be used to pay his/her voyage. But if everyone sticks to his/her country(local community), and prays only that local community, then contributors from one european country will not help fedora contributors of another countries. I'm sorry then, we are not Fedora. We will not be that Fedora which cares for: - upstream - centralized repository - its contributors The Fedora Project is a set of projects where most of the time, in each project - there is a steering committee and the contributors - some contributors [1] contributes on other projects. The steering committee does the communication between the different projects (some other contributors[1] help also) to make sure that the final output is professional and of quality. Right now, we can conclude from a country X the fedora project can have many contributors on different projects. E.g. country X may have : - n contributors on documentation project, - m contributors on artwork project, - n+P contributors on the ambassadors project Perhaps if our mechanisms is being successful "Fedora European Infrastructure" could pay other fedora contributors(other than ambassadors) to come and attend a fudcon for example. I'll stop writing I've a lot to say and will never end. Here is fedora - professional contributors - good looking personals at the booth - personals at the booth have materials for the events - professional projects and professional distributions - keep on being innovative - has man power to do the job - community can talk and express Here are other distributions: - lack of man power - boss kills good project - have only a distribution - geeks at the booth - waste events behind computer screens instead of spreading the word. I think you don't want fedora to be in that "other distributions" category. I don't. Fedora is special let's keep on making it special is my wish. FrancescoUgolini expressed correctly we have to remember we are a Global Community, that have to work together to solve its problem. regards, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Thu Mar 8 23:35:10 2007 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 00:35:10 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure In-Reply-To: <45EE9B14.7000603@fedoraproject.org> References: <45EE9B14.7000603@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1173396910.7379.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mercredi 07 mars 2007 ? 16:29 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a ?crit : > Kermorvant Armel wrote: > > Good Afternoon, > > > > I agree with you and I discust about this point > > with Chitlesh 3 weeks ago and we have the same > > point of view. > > But, after a short discussion with himm we share > > the same point of view about this subjet is : > > > > 1st Step : Creation of a legal entity in your > > country (Exemple Fedora-FR in France) > > Is there any good reasons to create a separate legal entity on a > regional basis? Have you consulted with Red Hat legal on this? > As long as the Fedora Project can't be given money by users to help promoting the project and as long as the ambassadors project will fail fulfilling some of our requests (despite everybody good will) there are only good reasons to do it. Moreover, Franz Meyer, RH Director of South Europe & MEA knows about our plans and wishes RH France to help us. Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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However, I'm NOT for > Fedora-fr being independent from Fedora Ambassador Project. Just keep in mind that Fedora-fr first steering committee has *only* Fedora Ambassadors in it. Is this enough to reassure you ? > > In general, I don't want local communities to be independent of Fedora > Ambassador Project. I understand that language is a problem. But > should we take language as a blocker for working together ? As its president, I don't wish it either. We share the same goals than Amb. Project : promoting the distro. > > We have seen in the past: > - FAD (Fedora Ambassador Day) > - FOSDEM2007 > where we had ambassadors and fedora contributors from different > countries. Sure we had at some point converged to english as the > language for communication, but at the same time Fedora isn't a > language contest, but about open-source. > > Fedora said and will be saying working "the upstream model" is the > where progress will be. > We have to make sure that Fedora Ambassadors does his job! It is doing well I think. We were encouraged to create stuff locally, and as no people wanted / could not to pay in advance schwags, we had to create a legal organisation. That is as simple as that. > > And at the same time have a look at our Fedora Ambassador Meeting, it's dying !! > Meetings have loss its sense and ambassadors don't take part on the > project but ready to criticized whenever they feel like. I agree and I admit not attending Meeting any more. I have a new fresh eyes about it since FOSDEM. But I really tend to *forget* them. We used to have a mail reminder, where has it gone ? > > Having legal entity for each country will lead to : > - everyone will concentrate on his/her country only under the name of > Fedora but not for Fedora I don't agree with this statement. Working localy is a good start to then work as a whole project. We have to stay close to our user base. > - Fedora Marketing and FAMSCo won't know what is happening in your > country hence our infrastructure that we are working on will not be > useful and someone has to : > - tell Max that we are not ready for the infrastructure. > - bear all the critics and flame wars that Red Hat is giving up on > Fedora or whatever because local communities are too weak to be > operating on their own. > - agree that he/she refused the infrastructure that will make > his/her fedora community better that any other linux project has done > or can do. I know many in this list compare fedora projects to > ubuntu's, but won't you like not to say/do anything and everything is > praising fedora ? Now is the time. > > The different Fedora Projects operate independently and > automatically. But unfortunately each project can't listen and satisfy > each contributor. It is the case of the Fedora Ambassadors project > where contributors want to do things, but unfortunately to do so for > this particular project a minimum budget is required. > > A Fedora Ambassador is someone who spread the word for Fedora. But > unfortunately that Fedora Ambassador is weak without infrastructure > and budget to make things for Fedora's advantage. In any extent, it seems to be as well a problem we are trying to solve through Fedora-fr. > > To make that Fedora Ambassadors' life better in terms of > infrastructure and budget, there are different ways to do so: > - creating local communities and legal entities > - sit and cry > - sit and wait > - use some of the infrastructure and budget that Fedora Marketing has. > > The last item in our case today is that Max proposed an extra budget > for Europe and the question is how can that budget be shared and used > appropriately among European Ambassadors ? > > Eventually, everyone can opt for the _ultimate_ solution[2], i.e "sit and wait". > > MirjamWaeckerlin, ThomasCanniot, GeroldKassube and I proposed "Fedora > European Infrastructure" which is a set of guidelines on what kind of > Executive we are looking for. > > But this ultimate solution[2] will lead to someone needs to do that > job and that job will be done according to his/her way. Of course one > or two months, some will "sit and cry" because the guidelines : > - aren't in their favour > - give credit to how hard they worked > - .... > > I'm quite sad that those who said that the actual Fedora Ambassador > infrastructure sucks and their requests aren't processed or rejected, > that they didn't step in to propose new but concrete ideas. > > Or perhaps you think that MirjamWaeckerlin, ThomasCanniot, > GeroldKassube and I have already done everything. Believe me, we > haven't! > > Things like: > - how and on what circumstances the Executive will reimburse a fedora ambassador > - can any ambassador be reimbursed ? > - is the Executive the one who will provide tshirts or dvds to other > european ambassadors > - the delay of reimbursed and how > - .... > needs to be discussed and write as guidelines so that in the future, > we know who has what kind of rights. > > Before we all get confused in unrealistic ideas/suggestions for the > future of the "Fedora European Infrastructure", take a short break and > look at the picture from an objective point of view. > > Hai it's is all about money ! > - If one country has a way to make money ("see RH legal) for > sponsoring their Fedora events, so perhaps don't need that "Fedora > European Infrastructure" we are building. I do think we need it. Red Hat would prefer giving it to an organisation / infrastructure towards it can be accountable. 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Francesco -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Fri Mar 9 17:21:55 2007 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 18:21:55 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure In-Reply-To: <45F179DE.1000006@fedoraproject.org> References: <13dbfe4f0703081356p25fee12dt597e073bcaa5a823@mail.gmail.com> <1173398011.7379.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45F179DE.1000006@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1173460915.27409.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le vendredi 09 mars 2007 ? 16:14 +0100, Francesco Ugolini a ?crit : > > I agree and I admit not attending Meeting any more. I have a new fresh > > eyes about it since FOSDEM. But I really tend to *forget* them. We used > > to have a mail reminder, where has it gone ? > > I send the day before an email with all information. Yep that's all my fault :s Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards Francesco Ugolini -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Sun Mar 11 19:18:19 2007 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:18:19 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] French Meeting Message-ID: <1173640699.3495.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello everybody, I would like to know what implication would it require for French Ambassadors to hold their Sunday meeting on #fedora-meeting instead of our local channel ? Cheers, Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards Francesco Ugolini Thomas Canniot ha scritto: > Hello everybody, I would like to know what implication would it require > for French Ambassadors to hold their Sunday meeting on #fedora-meeting > instead of our local channel ? > > Cheers, > > Thomas > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 11 23:59:15 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:59:15 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] CLT 2007 In-Reply-To: <200703071554.05744.simon@simline.de> References: <200703071554.05744.simon@simline.de> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703111659y22e476cel7e94f7b5e5bf5780@mail.gmail.com> On 3/7/07, simon wrote: > Hello Friends, > my report for Chemnitzer Linuxtage 2007 on > http://fedoranews.org/cms/node/2757 Hello there, here is my report: - http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2007/03/chemnitz-live-snapshot-of-our-activity.html#links - http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2007/03/chemnitz-fedora-game-sig-and-karaoke.html#links - http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2007/03/chemnitz-linuxtag-my-report.html#links JoergSimon has said everything in his report. I've rather talked about our visitors at our booth. However there was something which annoyed me like hell and it was the second time. I just think I should write it here and perhaps for LinuxTag2007 berlin we don't encounter another issue with the guy again! I can't accept a second "mistake" on our booth. 2 consecutive Linuxtags, the same guy took (I won't say "steal") material(s) from our booth without asking any fedora booth staff the permission! First time(last year), he took fedora dvds at our booth (LinuxTag2006 Wiesbaden) when we were packing up the whole booth. When GeroldKassube caught him, he said "by mistake"! We got the dvds back. Last friday night, we set up the fedora booth at Chemnitz LinuxTag and left some hardware at the booth plus an extra table which I was supposed to give it to the kubuntu team. I precise kubuntu and not ubuntu. Unfortunately, I didn't have the chance to hand that table to the kubuntu team last night so I wrote on a paper and stick on a table "Reserved for Fedora" thinking the next day I can hand it to them. Both our neighbours kubuntu and ubuntu had 2 tables only. Saturday morning, that table is gone. My f**king piece of paper had no effect. I was like a stupid that lost the item of kubuntu at the Fedora booth. To my right, I see our neighbour setting up his particular booth with 3 tables. I asked him kindly whether he took a table from the Fedora Booth. He confessed (agressively in his words) having moved our materials and took the table despite my notes. People don't have manners ! I'm writing this here, not to complain, but I would rather like fedora ambassadors don't do like he did! Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Mon Mar 12 04:38:37 2007 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:38:37 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Banner Message-ID: <45F4D94D.3010406@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Where is it ? DNA theme - 468x60 The look of the FC6 "DNA" Upload new attachment "dna-_strong class="highlight"_banner__strong_.png" At: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Banners -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF9NlNPg3HAC1vlg4RAkyzAJ9XfhBG1rdo8R44fSzG6gTX6wsTEQCfcjo/ KquTtA2G579c27ROCrKEiaw= =LqUq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 12 08:35:01 2007 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:35:01 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Banner In-Reply-To: <45F4D94D.3010406@projetofedora.org> References: <45F4D94D.3010406@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <45F510B5.2000203@fedoraproject.org> I see it and it looks good. (congratulation to the designer) Regards Francesco Ugolini Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto: > Where is it ? > > DNA theme - 468x60 > The look of the FC6 "DNA" > Upload new attachment "dna-_strong class="highlight"_banner__strong_.png" > > At: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Banners -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From lin at dr-hank.com Mon Mar 12 16:05:49 2007 From: lin at dr-hank.com (Lin Juan Carlos) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:05:49 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors wiki page modify In-Reply-To: <45F3F717.3080007@fedoraproject.org> References: <45F3F717.3080007@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20070312160327.M42998@dr-hank.com> On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:33:27 +0100, Francesco Ugolini wrote > At the beginning of Fedora Ambassador Wiki page there is the follow > sentence: "Fedora Ambassadors are people like you and me, who go to > places where other Linux users and potential converts gather and tell > them about Fedora --- the project and the distribution." > > I propose to use, instead, the > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/TalkingPoints sentence (i add > "Ambassadors" at the beggining): > > "Ambassadors spread the good word of Fedora. Spread the glamor. Spread > the action. Make waves. Encourage participation. Encourage the community." > > What do you think? > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > -- > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list I think that the first sentence "people like you and me" is very usefull, it means that we are not alliens. So as feeling, I do like the actual message Juan Carlos Lin lin at dr-hank.com From lin at dr-hank.com Mon Mar 12 16:08:02 2007 From: lin at dr-hank.com (Lin Juan Carlos) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:08:02 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Banner In-Reply-To: <45F510B5.2000203@fedoraproject.org> References: <45F4D94D.3010406@projetofedora.org> <45F510B5.2000203@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20070312160735.M62760@dr-hank.com> Congratulations to the designer too On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:35:01 +0100, Francesco Ugolini wrote > I see it and it looks good. (congratulation to the designer) > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto: > > Where is it ? > > > > DNA theme - 468x60 > > The look of the FC6 "DNA" > > Upload new attachment "dna-_strong class="highlight"_banner__strong_.png" > > > > At: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Banners > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Juan Carlos Lin lin at dr-hank.com From kwade at redhat.com Mon Mar 12 18:47:36 2007 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:47:36 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] CLT 2007 In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0703111659y22e476cel7e94f7b5e5bf5780@mail.gmail.com> References: <200703071554.05744.simon@simline.de> <13dbfe4f0703111659y22e476cel7e94f7b5e5bf5780@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1173725256.3935.415.camel@erato.phig.org> On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 00:59 +0100, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > I'm writing this here, not to complain, but I would rather like fedora > ambassadors don't do like he did! +1 Our behavior at events speaks for the whole Fedora Project. Also, these events are a great chance to meet people who do similar things in other projects, and to learn from each other. Many collaborations are started at such events. But no one will want to work with people who have a bad reputation for competitiveness, rudeness, etc. I'm very proud of our Fedora Ambassadors and how we interact with the community and at events. Thank you all. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(congratulation to the designer) > > > > Regards > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto: > > > Where is it ? > > > > > > DNA theme - 468x60 > > > The look of the FC6 "DNA" > > > Upload new attachment "dna-_strong > class="highlight"_banner__strong_.png" > > > > > > At: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Banners > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > Juan Carlos Lin > lin at dr-hank.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- M'BAREK Med Nihed, Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From simon at simline.de Mon Mar 12 20:59:17 2007 From: simon at simline.de (simon) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:59:17 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] CLT 2007 In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703121157s1c07d7bdu3ed3d58df1271703@mail.gmail.com> References: <200703071554.05744.simon@simline.de> <1173725256.3935.415.camel@erato.phig.org> <369bce3b0703121157s1c07d7bdu3ed3d58df1271703@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703122159.23029.simon@simline.de> Am Montag, 12. M?rz 2007 19:57 schrieb Thomas Chung: > Also please let us know how we can prevent such issue in the future. Chitlesh told him very direct what he/we think about his behavior ;-) But you can never prevent this, so long people are ignorant and think only about their own comfort. So the best what we can do is be a / the "good example" CU JoergSimon -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 13:57:38 2007 From: mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com (Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:57:38 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi :) Message-ID: Hello ambassadors, I'm new here ... my name is Mohd Izhar Firdaus , I'm from Malaysia and just joined the ambassador program. .. I'm a student in PETRONAS University of Technology taking ICT course .. have been slowly promoting linux, FOSS and Fedora in the university for a while now .. and just decided to make it official .. I still have a lot to learn .. and hope y'all can guide and help me through .. :D -- ----------------------------------------------- regards Hikaru ----------------------------------------------- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com ----------------------------------------------- kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com ----------------------------------------------- From hernan.pachas at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 14:04:12 2007 From: hernan.pachas at gmail.com (Hernan Pachas) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:04:12 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi :) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Welcome Mohd. ---Hernan On 3/13/07, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote: > Hello ambassadors, > > I'm new here ... my name is Mohd Izhar Firdaus , I'm from Malaysia and > just joined the ambassador program. > > .. I'm a student in PETRONAS University of Technology taking ICT > course .. have been slowly promoting linux, FOSS and Fedora in the > university for a while now .. and just decided to make it official .. > > I still have a lot to learn .. and hope y'all can guide and help me through .. > > :D > > -- > ----------------------------------------------- > regards > Hikaru > ----------------------------------------------- > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > Amano Hikaru > ??? ???? ???? > Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS > ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester > mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com > ----------------------------------------------- > kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com > Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com > ----------------------------------------------- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From mohamedimran.kr at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 14:43:10 2007 From: mohamedimran.kr at gmail.com (Mohamed Imran K R) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:13:10 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self Introduction Message-ID: <45F6B87E.7090402@gmail.com> Hello I am Mohamed Imran and i belong to the AU-KBC Research Center, Chennai. I really admire the qualities of fedora and i have used it right from its inception to solve my needs. I am indebted to Fedora and i think i can contribute to its to its growth now in a much more proactive manner by advocating it in all forums i present myself. Hope to work with you people to promote Fedora Regards Mohamed Imran K R AU-KBC Research Centre -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 251 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 14:53:13 2007 From: mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com (Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:53:13 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi :) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/13/07, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > Welcome on board. > > Francesco Ugolini > On 3/13/07, Hernan Pachas wrote: > Welcome Mohd. > Y'all can call me Izhar btw .. Malays have quite a long given name ... we didnt use the firstname-lastname system .. but givenname-fathername system .. My given name is Mohd Izhar Firdaus and my father's name is Ismail :) Oh ya .. I can be identified with the nick KageSenshi on IRC nice meeting y'all :) ----------------------------------------------- regards Hikaru ----------------------------------------------- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com ----------------------------------------------- kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com ----------------------------------------------- From mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 14:58:25 2007 From: mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com (Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:58:25 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi :) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/13/07, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote: > Y'all can call me Izhar btw .. Malays have quite a long given s/"Malays"/"some Malays"/ sorry bout that .. thats typo might lead to misinformation From mackay3 at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 16:08:11 2007 From: mackay3 at gmail.com (John Mackay) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:08:11 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors wiki page modify In-Reply-To: <20070312160327.M42998@dr-hank.com> References: <45F3F717.3080007@fedoraproject.org> <20070312160327.M42998@dr-hank.com> Message-ID: <5d88dfb00703130908m3c56e77dx5afaccd3bda7a8be@mail.gmail.com> IMO the first one makes it in short description, the whole point of being Fedora Ambassador. The last marketing one is too vague and open =/. On 3/12/07, Lin Juan Carlos wrote: > > On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:33:27 +0100, Francesco Ugolini wrote > > At the beginning of Fedora Ambassador Wiki page there is the follow > > sentence: "Fedora Ambassadors are people like you and me, who go to > > places where other Linux users and potential converts gather and tell > > them about Fedora --- the project and the distribution." > > > > I propose to use, instead, the > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/TalkingPoints sentence (i add > > "Ambassadors" at the beggining): > > > > "Ambassadors spread the good word of Fedora. Spread the glamor. Spread > > the action. Make waves. Encourage participation. Encourage the > community." > > > > What do you think? > > > > Regards > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > -- > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > I think that the first sentence "people like you and me" is very usefull, > it means > that we are not alliens. > > So as feeling, I do like the actual message > > > > Juan Carlos Lin > lin at dr-hank.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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M?rz 2007 19:57 schrieb Thomas Chung: > > Also please let us know how we can prevent such issue in the future. > > Chitlesh told him very direct what he/we think about his behavior ;-) > But you can never prevent this, so long people are ignorant and think only > about their own comfort. > So the best what we can do is be a / the "good example" > > CU JoergSimon > > > > -- > > J?rg Simon > jsimon at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon > Key Fingerprint: > 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Malays have quite a long given > > > > s/"Malays"/"some Malays"/ > > > > sorry bout that .. thats typo might lead to misinformation > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- --- Mohd Hanafiah bin Muhamad Fedora Ambassadors for Malaysia http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HanafiahMuhamad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 17:05:32 2007 From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:05:32 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self Introduction In-Reply-To: <45F6B87E.7090402@gmail.com> References: <45F6B87E.7090402@gmail.com> Message-ID: Welcome Imran. Good wishes On 13/03/07, Mohamed Imran K R wrote: > > Hello > I am Mohamed Imran and i belong to the AU-KBC Research Center, > Chennai. I really admire the qualities of fedora and i have used it > right from its inception to solve my needs. > I am indebted to Fedora and i think i can contribute to its to its > growth now in a much more proactive manner by advocating it in all > forums i present myself. > Hope to work with you people to promote Fedora > > Regards > Mohamed Imran K R > AU-KBC Research Centre > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- ??? ????? mak --------------------------------------------------------------- First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm a student in PETRONAS University of Technology taking ICT > course .. have been slowly promoting linux, FOSS and Fedora in the > university for a while now .. and just decided to make it official .. > > I still have a lot to learn .. and hope y'all can guide and help me > through .. > > :D > > -- > ----------------------------------------------- > regards > Hikaru > ----------------------------------------------- > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > Amano Hikaru > ??? ???? ???? > Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS > ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester > mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com > ----------------------------------------------- > kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com > Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com > ----------------------------------------------- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ??? ????? mak --------------------------------------------------------------- First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gpex at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 13 18:10:50 2007 From: gpex at fedoraproject.org (Giuseppe Pignataro) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:10:50 +0100 Subject: R: [Ambassadors] Hi :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200703131811.l2DIAuW9006337@m-02.th.seeweb.it> Welcome!!! Giuseppe Pignataro http://www.giuseppepignataro.net Fedora Core Ambassador for Italy A KDE italian translator Socio TAU Visual Member of ILS -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com] Per conto di Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail Inviato: marted? 13 marzo 2007 14.58 A: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Oggetto: [Ambassadors] Hi :) Hello ambassadors, I'm new here ... my name is Mohd Izhar Firdaus , I'm from Malaysia and just joined the ambassador program. .. I'm a student in PETRONAS University of Technology taking ICT course .. have been slowly promoting linux, FOSS and Fedora in the university for a while now .. and just decided to make it official .. I still have a lot to learn .. and hope y'all can guide and help me through .. :D -- ----------------------------------------------- regards Hikaru ----------------------------------------------- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com ----------------------------------------------- kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com ----------------------------------------------- -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From dhardison at grapeape.org Tue Mar 13 18:40:50 2007 From: dhardison at grapeape.org (Douglas Hardison) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:40:50 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction Message-ID: <45F6F032.5040707@grapeape.org> Hello All, My name is Douglas Hardison. My friends all call me 'Woody'. I have just completed my application to Fedora Amabassadors. The nice people in #fedora on FreeNode alerted me to its existence, and pointed me to the Ambassador HowTo. I am 35 years old ( come this Friday ), and I currently live in Clayton, North Carolina. Clayton is a small town just outside Raleigh. I am recently transplanted from the city of Wilson, NC; home of the 'World's Largest Tobacco Market'. I am married and have a seven year old daughter, and an 11 month old son. I currently work support Linux-based network monitoring appliances. Before that, I was an admin at a local ISP in Wilson, where I obtained most of my Linux knowledge. Everything from email to RADIUS to web proxies, etc... I have been using Linux for approximately 10 years or so. I did not start out with RedHat, but eventually ended up using RedHat 5.0. At that time, I found it the most intuitive, *plus* easy to install distribution. As my wiki page ( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DouglasHardison ) states, I have played with other distributions, but always return to my roots :-) I hope to become an active member in the Fedora community, and give back a little of what Linux has done for me. --Woody From gpex at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 13 20:45:52 2007 From: gpex at fedoraproject.org (Giuseppe Pignataro) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:45:52 +0100 Subject: R: [Ambassadors] Introduction In-Reply-To: <45F6F032.5040707@grapeape.org> Message-ID: <200703132045.l2DKjtd6011181@m-02.th.seeweb.it> Welcome Douglas Giuseppe Pignataro http://www.giuseppepignataro.net Fedora Core Ambassador for Italy A KDE italian translator Socio TAU Visual Member of ILS -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com] Per conto di Douglas Hardison Inviato: marted? 13 marzo 2007 19.41 A: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Oggetto: [Ambassadors] Introduction Hello All, My name is Douglas Hardison. My friends all call me 'Woody'. I have just completed my application to Fedora Amabassadors. The nice people in #fedora on FreeNode alerted me to its existence, and pointed me to the Ambassador HowTo. I am 35 years old ( come this Friday ), and I currently live in Clayton, North Carolina. Clayton is a small town just outside Raleigh. I am recently transplanted from the city of Wilson, NC; home of the 'World's Largest Tobacco Market'. I am married and have a seven year old daughter, and an 11 month old son. I currently work support Linux-based network monitoring appliances. Before that, I was an admin at a local ISP in Wilson, where I obtained most of my Linux knowledge. Everything from email to RADIUS to web proxies, etc... I have been using Linux for approximately 10 years or so. I did not start out with RedHat, but eventually ended up using RedHat 5.0. At that time, I found it the most intuitive, *plus* easy to install distribution. As my wiki page ( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DouglasHardison ) states, I have played with other distributions, but always return to my roots :-) I hope to become an active member in the Fedora community, and give back a little of what Linux has done for me. --Woody -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From jmbabich at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 03:53:11 2007 From: jmbabich at gmail.com (John Babich) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:53:11 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self Introduction In-Reply-To: <45F6B87E.7090402@gmail.com> References: <45F6B87E.7090402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9d2c731f0703132053u3dde9d8bha1da72e6d78158cb@mail.gmail.com> On 3/13/07, Mohamed Imran K R wrote: > Hello > I am Mohamed Imran and i belong to the AU-KBC Research Center, > Chennai. I really admire the qualities of fedora and i have used it > right from its inception to solve my needs. > I am indebted to Fedora and i think i can contribute to its to its > growth now in a much more proactive manner by advocating it in all > forums i present myself. > Hope to work with you people to promote Fedora The goals of the Research Center sound quite interesting. As a fairly new member to the Fedora Project, welcome to the Fedora Ambassadors. John Babich From jmbabich at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 05:34:04 2007 From: jmbabich at gmail.com (John Babich) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:34:04 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction In-Reply-To: <45F6F032.5040707@grapeape.org> References: <45F6F032.5040707@grapeape.org> Message-ID: <9d2c731f0703132234j46996aeajee5863c6e4bb1f83@mail.gmail.com> Woody: Welcome aboard. I also worked at a local ISP for a while. It's a great way to get grounded in a bunch of technologies very quickly. John Babich On 3/13/07, Douglas Hardison wrote: > Hello All, > > My name is Douglas Hardison. My friends all call me 'Woody'. > I have just completed my application to Fedora Amabassadors. > The nice people in #fedora on FreeNode alerted me to its existence, and > pointed me to the Ambassador HowTo. > > I am 35 years old ( come this Friday ), and I currently live in Clayton, > North Carolina. Clayton is a small town just outside Raleigh. > I am recently transplanted from the city of Wilson, NC; home of the > 'World's Largest Tobacco Market'. > > I am married and have a seven year old daughter, and an 11 month old son. > > I currently work support Linux-based network monitoring appliances. > Before that, I was an admin at a local ISP in Wilson, where I obtained > most of my Linux knowledge. Everything from email to RADIUS to web > proxies, etc... > > I have been using Linux for approximately 10 years or so. I did not > start out with RedHat, but eventually ended up using RedHat 5.0. At that > time, I found it the most intuitive, *plus* easy to install distribution. > > As my wiki page ( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DouglasHardison ) > states, I have played with other distributions, but always return to my > roots :-) > > I hope to become an active member in the Fedora community, and give back > a little of what Linux has done for me. > > --Woody > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 07:31:04 2007 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:01:04 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self Introduction In-Reply-To: <9d2c731f0703132053u3dde9d8bha1da72e6d78158cb@mail.gmail.com> References: <45F6B87E.7090402@gmail.com> <9d2c731f0703132053u3dde9d8bha1da72e6d78158cb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Welcome... On 14/03/07, John Babich wrote: > On 3/13/07, Mohamed Imran K R wrote: > > Hello > > I am Mohamed Imran and i belong to the AU-KBC Research Center, > > Chennai. I really admire the qualities of fedora and i have used it > > right from its inception to solve my needs. > > I am indebted to Fedora and i think i can contribute to its to its > > growth now in a much more proactive manner by advocating it in all > > forums i present myself. > > Hope to work with you people to promote Fedora > > The goals of the Research Center sound quite interesting. As a fairly new > member to the Fedora Project, welcome to the Fedora Ambassadors. > > John Babich > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Wed Mar 14 11:08:07 2007 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:08:07 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction to Fedora-fr Message-ID: <1173870487.3426.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> OK, here is a mail to respond to several topics which seems to be in many people minds. *First, let me re-introduce you the Fedora-fr Community, the "Who-are-you" question.* Fedora-fr.org is a community website whose aim is to promote Fedora. It is lead mostly by active Ambassadors. It is made of a forum, several mailing lists, an IRC channel on Freenode and a local documentation project. There are at the moment more than 9000 members subscribed to our forums. On these forums, we help people if they have problems and questions about the distro, obviously, but we also help people creating their own RPM to help them participating into Fedora Extras. We have also about 15 people contributing to the local documentation project. Fedora-fr is also the area where French Ambassadors are altogether. There are 13 active ambassadors. On Sundays, they meet themselves to discuss the promotion of the distro at a local scale, but also the main decisions taken by the Project in general. *What are you doing?* We are actively promoting the distribution. How are we doing this ? First, we created a strong community website. People can share their thoughts about Fedora, with the forums, the IRC or the blog platform. Finally, Ambassadors and involved people also go to different events. They first met during a big install party which happened in October 2006. And this year, Fedora was officially represented by some ambassadors (6) at the biggest Linux event in France, Linux Solutions. Some French Ambassadors (3) also went to FOSDEM to meet European Ambassadors and worldwide involved people. *What is this Fedora-fr Organisation thing?* First, I need to explain to you how we came to this idea. There were first requests from French people to be able to give Fedora some money. They couldn't, as the Project does not accept gifts due to legal issues. Then, there were several misunderstandings and little organisation (from both side it seems), and we were invited to create our materials locally. As nobody here wanted to spend its own money for it, we decided that a non-profit organisation was a very good thing to do: it would allow us to create our own materials and to be recognised as a fully organised and legal entity both by the Fedora Project and RedHat. Moreover, as RedHat Brandful store goodies shipping costs are completely unaffordable by Europeans, we decided to create a webshop as well. As you can see, everything is about promoting Fedora, as it has never been the case elsewhere and before. *How are you going to do it?* As soon as the organisation will be authorised by the french governement, we will invite people to subscribe to it, if they are willing to. This would create a lot of money. Then, because we know that subscriptions will slow down a day or another and because Fedora goodies are very difficult to find in Europe, we had this webshop idea: on each product that are going to be sold, we will get a small profit for the organisation. Finally, we will have some money to work with, so as to create DVDs and help people promoting the distro (by having a part of their trip reimbursed for example). Involved ambassadors voted for the creation of the non-profit organisation on January 31st, during Linux Solutions event. Here are the involved people: Thomas Canniot (myself -- president), Armel Kermorvant (vice-president), Johan Cwislinski (treasurer), Guillaume Kulakowski (secretary) and two others people involved in the Steering Committee, Thierry Delmonte and Charles Vinchon. *What do you think of Fedora Europe Infrastructure (FEI)?* We think that Fedora Europe Infrastructure is a very good idea and we want to take an active part in its creation. Let me explain to you how we see things. We think that FEI has to help people organise themselves into local non-profit organisations, mostly as we have done here in France. If there are some money to deal with, from RedHat for example, FEI will get the money so as to share it to non-profit organisations which need to promote Fedora locally. If they can't / don't want to create a non-profit organisation or if they don't want to create goodies locally, then FEI will have goodies made for them and send to them. FEI however should only accept large orders and not give DVDs one by one. Local community don't need all the army with them (a big website and all that stuff), but only a legal entity ruled by recognised rules that help FEI understand that they are not trying to get things for themselves. *How should FEI be organised?* Well, I don't think it may be a good idea to have only one person leading FEI. It may be a very good idea however that some people manage things. At least, 3, but not more, to avoid under activity. FEI Steering Committee should be elected by Ambassadors. And only European Ambassadors should be allowed to be at its head (or maybe one person from the Fedora Ambassador Project, as its leader, or even higher, Greg or Max). The French Ambassadors -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I really admire the qualities of fedora and i have used it >> right from its inception to solve my needs. >> I am indebted to Fedora and i think i can contribute to its to its >> growth now in a much more proactive manner by advocating it in all >> forums i present myself. >> Hope to work with you people to promote Fedora > > The goals of the Research Center sound quite interesting. As a fairly new > member to the Fedora Project, welcome to the Fedora Ambassadors. > > John Babich > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Welcome Mohamed. --Woody From dhardison at grapeape.org Wed Mar 14 12:50:19 2007 From: dhardison at grapeape.org (Douglas Hardison) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:50:19 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction In-Reply-To: <9d2c731f0703132234j46996aeajee5863c6e4bb1f83@mail.gmail.com> References: <45F6F032.5040707@grapeape.org> <9d2c731f0703132234j46996aeajee5863c6e4bb1f83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45F7EF8B.2010202@grapeape.org> John Babich wrote: > Woody: > > Welcome aboard. I also worked at a local ISP for a while. It's a great > way to get grounded in a bunch of technologies very quickly. > > John Babich > > On 3/13/07, Douglas Hardison wrote: >> Hello All, >> >> My name is Douglas Hardison. My friends all call me 'Woody'. >> I have just completed my application to Fedora Amabassadors. >> The nice people in #fedora on FreeNode alerted me to its existence, and >> pointed me to the Ambassador HowTo. >> >> I am 35 years old ( come this Friday ), and I currently live in Clayton, >> North Carolina. Clayton is a small town just outside Raleigh. >> I am recently transplanted from the city of Wilson, NC; home of the >> 'World's Largest Tobacco Market'. >> >> I am married and have a seven year old daughter, and an 11 month old >> son. >> >> I currently work support Linux-based network monitoring appliances. >> Before that, I was an admin at a local ISP in Wilson, where I obtained >> most of my Linux knowledge. Everything from email to RADIUS to web >> proxies, etc... >> >> I have been using Linux for approximately 10 years or so. I did not >> start out with RedHat, but eventually ended up using RedHat 5.0. At that >> time, I found it the most intuitive, *plus* easy to install >> distribution. >> >> As my wiki page ( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DouglasHardison ) >> states, I have played with other distributions, but always return to my >> roots :-) >> >> I hope to become an active member in the Fedora community, and give back >> a little of what Linux has done for me. >> >> --Woody >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list John, Ah yes, the ISP was an excellent learning ground. The phrase "trial by fire" comes to mind. :-) --Woody From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Wed Mar 14 13:48:03 2007 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:48:03 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction to Fedora-fr In-Reply-To: <1173870487.3426.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1173870487.3426.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1173880083.3474.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mercredi 14 mars 2007 ? 12:08 +0100, Thomas Canniot a ?crit : > Involved ambassadors voted for the creation of the non-profit > organisation on January 31st, during Linux Solutions event. Here are the > involved people: Thomas Canniot (myself -- president), Armel Kermorvant > (vice-president), Johan Cwislinski (treasurer), Guillaume Kulakowski > (secretary) and two others people involved in the Steering Committee, > Thierry Delmonte and Charles Vinchon. Geez !! I forgot one of our best soldier ! Maxime Carron (of course) ! 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We have just European people in the FAmSCo, actually, we need an European Leader, that will have to be a point of reference. I think that this leader will work with other European people, who will help him if he will need it. For the rest, i think you are working hard. I hope you to continue in this way :) Regards Francesco Ugolini p.s. Thanks to all French Ambassadors who told us their opinion, i encourage all the other people to share their thoughts to improve this idea: our work is hard but it could be more simple if we work together. From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 14 16:26:23 2007 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:26:23 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors' meeting reminder - Thursday 15th March 14.00 UTC Message-ID: <45F8222F.4070704@fedoraproject.org> I want to remember all ambassadors that tomorrow there will be a meeting at 14.00 UTC in #fedora-meeting channel. I invite all to attend it to discuss about events, new projects etc... Http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2007-03-15 to see the agenda or to add new topics to this one. Thanks for your attention Francesco Ugolini -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From justinbisted at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 17:37:53 2007 From: justinbisted at gmail.com (Justin M Bisted) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:37:53 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Local group for fedora In-Reply-To: <45F82117.5070503@fedoraproject.org> References: <1173870487.3426.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45F82117.5070503@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <45F832F1.2020103@gmail.com> I just created a group on myspace for local people in superior, WI Duluth, MN area for fedora http://groups.myspace.com/Superiorfedora is the link feel free to join and spread the word I'm trying to get people to get together and talk and mingle about fedora, linux If you all have any other ideas that you did that can help me promote fedora in my area let me know anything is good Francesco Ugolini wrote: >> *How should FEI be organised?* >> Well, I don't think it may be a good idea to have only one person >> leading FEI. It may be a very good idea however that some people manage >> things. At least, 3, but not more, to avoid under activity. >> FEI Steering Committee should be elected by Ambassadors. And only >> European Ambassadors should be allowed to be at its head (or maybe one >> person from the Fedora Ambassador Project, as its leader, or even >> higher, Greg or Max). >> > > > We have just European people in the FAmSCo, actually, we need an > European Leader, that will have to be a point of reference. I think that > this leader will work with other European people, who will help him if > he will need it. > > For the rest, i think you are working hard. I hope you to continue in > this way :) > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > p.s. Thanks to all French Ambassadors who told us their opinion, i > encourage all the other people to share their thoughts to improve this > idea: our work is hard but it could be more simple if we work together. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Write an MP3 (decoder which is available for free download) player > 2 Use this MP3 Player > 3. IANAL but the situation is a bit complex and would require understanding of several concepts. Software can be protected via three things 1) Copyright license 2) Trademarks 3) Patents For a short discourse on how they differ you can hear it from a actual lawyer. http://www.redhat.com/magazine/007may05/features/ip/ In a region which recognized and allows software patents like in US, you can have a entirely Free and open source software and still be restricted by patents. In such regions MP3 as a technology has restrictions. Writing a software that infringes on a patent should be ok as long as you dont redistribute it to a third party with appropriate patent licenses. Even when you do have patent licenses you might be infrigning on other similar patents for the same technology. http://www.oreillynet.com/digitalmedia/blog/2007/02/microsoft_must_pay_in_mp3_laws.html Using a MP3 player is restricted or allowed depending on whether it is commercial or private use. In India or other regions which dont recognize software patents either of these activities are completely legal. Rahul From rdieter at math.unl.edu Wed Mar 14 21:36:33 2007 From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:36:33 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Legal Stuff Regarding Non-Free/Query In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45F86AE1.9070409@math.unl.edu> Siddharth Upmanyu wrote: > Fact : Mp3 decoding is not legal without paying royalty fees (in some > countries)... > > Case : XYZ installs FedoraCore (100% OSS Guaranteed :-) ) and installs > his fav MP3 player from say Yum or RPM download or... > > Now is it illegal to : > 1. Write an MP3 (decoder which is available for free download) player > 2 Use this MP3 Player > 3. 1. write? ok, as long as you don't share it. :) 2. use? probably not, but no one will probably care. 3. (you missed) (re)distributing said mp3 encoder/decoder, illegal, tied to your "Fact" above. -- Rex From rdieter at math.unl.edu Wed Mar 14 21:44:41 2007 From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:44:41 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Legal Stuff Regarding Non-Free/Query In-Reply-To: <45F86AE1.9070409@math.unl.edu> References: <45F86AE1.9070409@math.unl.edu> Message-ID: <45F86CC9.1070500@math.unl.edu> Rex Dieter wrote: > Siddharth Upmanyu wrote: >> Now is it illegal to : >> 1. Write an MP3 (decoder which is available for free download) player >> 2 Use this MP3 Player >> 3. > > 1. write? ok, as long as you don't share it. :) > 2. use? probably not, but no one will probably care. Clarifcation: you can get free/legal mp3 decoding, provided it's properly licensed and paid for, e.g. http://www.fluendo.com/press/releases/PR-2005-05.html > 3. (you missed) (re)distributing said mp3 encoder/decoder, illegal, tied > to your "Fact" above. Addendum: Illegal for a US-based company/group, like Fedora, without paying licensing fees. -- Rex From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Thu Mar 15 07:47:29 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:47:29 +0900 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-freemedia-list] Fedora Free Media Program Donation In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703141047w711b0526u56e80ae76c188343@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0703141047w711b0526u56e80ae76c188343@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1173944849.8031.0.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au> On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 10:47 -0700, Thomas Chung wrote: > All, > > Max approved accepting donation for Fedora Free Media Program. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/Donation > > This is another way to improve our program and provide users a way to > contribute back without joining our program to burn and ship media by > themselves. > > Regards. Could we add a link to the word paypal for those people that don't know where to go. Regards, Marc From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 15 12:27:47 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:27:47 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Legal Stuff Regarding Non-Free/Query In-Reply-To: <45F83D6A.9030007@fedoraproject.org> References: <45F83D6A.9030007@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703150527o43a0d369yba620e9e5a141f7b@mail.gmail.com> On 3/14/07, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > In a region which recognized and allows software patents like in US, you > can have a entirely Free and open source software and still be > restricted by patents. In such regions MP3 as a technology has > restrictions. Writing a software that infringes on a patent should be ok > as long as you dont redistribute it to a third party with appropriate > patent licenses. Even when you do have patent licenses you might be > infrigning on other similar patents for the same technology. > > http://www.oreillynet.com/digitalmedia/blog/2007/02/microsoft_must_pay_in_mp3_laws.html > > Using a MP3 player is restricted or allowed depending on whether it is > commercial or private use. In India or other regions which dont > recognize software patents either of these activities are completely legal. Rahul, can you document it properly on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Multimedia/MP3 plz? And possibly add a link to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Multimedia/fluendo-mp3 as well :) regards, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 15 12:38:34 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:38:34 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] French Meeting In-Reply-To: <1173640699.3495.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1173640699.3495.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703150538na229ef1v6c854aa722f86674@mail.gmail.com> On 3/11/07, Thomas Canniot wrote: > Hello everybody, I would like to know what implication would it require > for French Ambassadors to hold their Sunday meeting on #fedora-meeting > instead of our local channel ? Hello there, It's been 4 days now since you posted, no one was against. So I would say, yes you can :) On fedoraproject.org/people, there are already french articles on the feed for about a year now. At the same time, the french community is pretty active. Thereby, I see no reason why those french meetings can't be done on #fedora-meeting. I would also welcome the fact that the french-amba meetings be held as from this sunday. If one objects, now is the time ! regards, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 15 12:46:16 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:46:16 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linux+ Magazine In-Reply-To: <45E8C1B8.4030709@projetofedora.org> References: <45E8C1B8.4030709@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703150546w7f04e257pb5ea87b63a14f38e@mail.gmail.com> On 3/3/07, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: > Hi!! Linux+ special edition about Fedora Core 6 > Article to download: > http://www.lpmagazine.org/en/linuxplus/issues/1_2007.html Hello Rodrigo, can you add a link to the article on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/PressArchive ? regards, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 15 12:58:06 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:58:06 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure In-Reply-To: <1173398011.7379.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <13dbfe4f0703081356p25fee12dt597e073bcaa5a823@mail.gmail.com> <1173398011.7379.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703150558y7a5dfabdmf8a0dc7299b5db79@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, It's been a week now since constructive comments are no longer roaming in this thread. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/Europe Now, here is a list of those contructive comments: (Discussed on 08 Mar 07 Meeting:) 1) a swiss bank account (proposed by JoergSimon) o before or after LinuxTag ? - not yet decided - ChitleshGoorah o Austria is also nice with tax! - ClausReheis 2) 214? from CLT by ChitleshGoorah and JoergSimon - first deposit as an example to follow 3) Executive will possess account data and id in shops which will be useful to produce swags or dvds (proposed by JoergSimon) 4) a non profit organisation, and sell things through a shop, there are no tax at all normally (or at least in france)- ThomasCanniot 5) bank account managed by a legal entity (not by an individual) - ThomasCanniot Any one who proposed one/more idea(s) has anything new to add or inform people on this list? This infrastructure is targetted to Europeans at the moment, however this doesn't mean that non-europeans can't suggest or say anything :) Everyone on this ML can express his/her views to push this infrastructure forward and perhaps as a model to follow if it succeeds. regards, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From lxtnow at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 15:21:43 2007 From: lxtnow at gmail.com (SmootherFrOgZ) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:21:43 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] French Meeting In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0703150538na229ef1v6c854aa722f86674@mail.gmail.com> References: <1173640699.3495.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> <13dbfe4f0703150538na229ef1v6c854aa722f86674@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <62bc09df0703150821v707d8566hf8b17c9773bcf14b@mail.gmail.com> 2007/3/15, Chitlesh GOORAH : > > On 3/11/07, Thomas Canniot wrote: > > Hello everybody, I would like to know what implication would it require > > for French Ambassadors to hold their Sunday meeting on #fedora-meeting > > instead of our local channel ? > > Hello there, > > It's been 4 days now since you posted, no one was against. So I would > say, yes you can :) > > On fedoraproject.org/people, there are already french articles on the > feed for about a year now. At the same time, the french community is > pretty active. Thereby, I see no reason why those french meetings > can't be done on #fedora-meeting. > > I would also welcome the fact that the french-amba meetings be held as > from this sunday. If one objects, now is the time ! > > regards, > Chitlesh > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > I'm Agree with that, this channel has been ctreated to centralize all project meeting into only one channel And #fedora-mktg-fr is one of them. Like that everyone will be able to hang knowledge of our objectives and work outside of French Community. One thing i know it's that pleople who participe and take part of the meeting ( such as packaging meeting) Talk with "voice" mode. I don't know if it's the same rules for all project meeting.......? -- Xavier.t Lamien -- French Fedora Ambassador Fedora Extras Contributor GPG-Key ID: F3903DEB Fingerprint: 0F2A 7A17 0F1B 82EE FCBF 1F51 76B7 A28D F390 3DEB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please correct me when I'm wrong. But this is only one side. Switzerland is not a Member of the EU (sometimes are there problems with the delivery over the european borders) and the costs for bank tansactions are around 3-5? (transaction from a swiss account to an account in Germany). But the "bank secret" (Bankgeheimnis) is known worldwide. > 2) 214? from CLT by ChitleshGoorah and JoergSimon - first deposit as > an example to follow good idea :-) > 4) a non profit organisation, and sell things through a shop, there > are no tax at all normally (or at least in france)- ThomasCanniot About this point. I will try to find out how this is in Switzerland. > 5) bank account managed by a legal entity (not by an individual) - > ThomasCanniot I agree with Thomas. Maybe there is a way that Red Hat Switzerland (or elsewhere) will open an account in the name of the Fedora project and two or three ambassadors (from different countries) are responsible for this account. This are just my thoughts... regards, Fabian From gerold at lugd.org Thu Mar 15 16:09:02 2007 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:09:02 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure In-Reply-To: <20070315165133.eyonzhb74sw8ssc4@login-15.hoststar.ch> References: <13dbfe4f0703081356p25fee12dt597e073bcaa5a823@mail.gmail.com> <1173398011.7379.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <13dbfe4f0703150558y7a5dfabdmf8a0dc7299b5db79@mail.gmail.com> <20070315165133.eyonzhb74sw8ssc4@login-15.hoststar.ch> Message-ID: <1173974942.3718.11.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> All ... ... maybe we should stop discuss here in the ML because imho I think, we should discuss this point at the next FAD EMEA (2007-05-29) in Berlin ... Please don't misunderstood me, I don't want you to stop conversation or discussing by ML, but I personally think this issue has to be discussed face-to-face in a short timeframe ... This is to important and has too much influence to the whole project in Germany and to be honest whole Europe. And elsewhere my first idea was also to follow the "french idea" and after sleeping one night, I can't follow on this way because ..... .... argh; can I explain my concerns at the FAD, please???? Thanks Gerold Am Donnerstag, den 15.03.2007, 16:51 +0100 schrieb fabian at bernewireless.net: > Zitat von Chitlesh GOORAH : > > > Now, here is a list of those contructive comments: > > (Discussed on 08 Mar 07 Meeting:) > > 1) a swiss bank account (proposed by JoergSimon) > > o before or after LinuxTag ? - not yet decided - ChitleshGoorah > > o Austria is also nice with tax! - ClausReheis > > The goods and services tax (aka MwSt or VAT) is in Switzerland 7,6 %. This > is much lower as in Germany (19 %) or Austria (20 %). Please correct me when > I'm wrong. But this is only one side. Switzerland is not a Member of the EU > (sometimes are there problems with the delivery over the european borders) > and the costs for bank tansactions are around 3-5? (transaction from a swiss > account to an account in Germany). But the "bank secret" (Bankgeheimnis) is > known worldwide. > > > 2) 214? from CLT by ChitleshGoorah and JoergSimon - first deposit as > > an example to follow > > good idea :-) > > > 4) a non profit organisation, and sell things through a shop, there > > are no tax at all normally (or at least in france)- ThomasCanniot > > About this point. I will try to find out how this is in Switzerland. > > > 5) bank account managed by a legal entity (not by an individual) - > > ThomasCanniot > > I agree with Thomas. Maybe there is a way that Red Hat Switzerland (or > elsewhere) will open an account in the name of the Fedora project and > two or three ambassadors (from different countries) are responsible for > this account. > > This are just my thoughts... > > regards, > > Fabian > > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Gerold Kassube -Vorstandsvorsitzender- Linux Usergroup L?rrach e.V. Marie-Curie-Strasse 8 79539 L?rrach _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML email X & vCards / \ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks regards, Fabian From ncorrare at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 15 17:18:20 2007 From: ncorrare at fedoraproject.org (Nicolas Antonio Corrarello) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:18:20 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] The faces of the FedoraProject Message-ID: <45F97FDC.9030407@fedoraproject.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I think is very important for everyone to put a face on every name, to give a more human approach, as it is discussed on in the MustHave . Even if i got it wrong, it would be nice to see a picture of each one of us in the PersonalPages, so I'd like to encourage everyone to do it. I started with mine http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NicolasCorrarello , you can e-mail me to say how ugly or goofy I look :D Y.S. - -- - - -- Nicolas A. Corrarello, RHCE c: +54 (911) 6398-5974 Fedora Ambassador Argentina e: ncorrare at fedoraproject.org GPG Key: DFC893EE h: http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/NicolasCorrarello GPG Fingerprint: 5C93 42DA 98E1 4EEF B24B 7F8C E145 B2F9 DFC8 93EE Import my key: $ gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-key 0xDFC893EE Learn. Network. Experience open source. Red Hat Summit San Diego | May 9-11, 2007 Learn more: http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/2007 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF+X/c4UWy+d/Ik+4RAnkoAJ9pkOqHidaRb+2NoTBXQ1pVsOkBlACfdaOL 4tXvJlm+NgJ4Cz2pfgv8lk0= =nNZX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 15 18:37:51 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:37:51 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Legal Stuff Regarding Non-Free/Query In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0703150527o43a0d369yba620e9e5a141f7b@mail.gmail.com> References: <45F83D6A.9030007@fedoraproject.org> <13dbfe4f0703150527o43a0d369yba620e9e5a141f7b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0703151137g6d817133xc43ab7351e189c1d@mail.gmail.com> On 3/15/07, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Rahul, can you document it properly on > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Multimedia/MP3 plz? > > And possibly add a link to > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Multimedia/fluendo-mp3 as well :) > > regards, > Chitlesh Thank you for pointing that out. I've linked from mp3 to fluendo-mp3 Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 15 19:02:28 2007 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:02:28 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] The faces of the FedoraProject In-Reply-To: <45F97FDC.9030407@fedoraproject.org> References: <45F97FDC.9030407@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <45F99844.9010004@fedoraproject.org> You can just see the event photos, you will find many people there. I think it's the best way because people can see we are together. Regards Francesco Ugolini p.s. you can find somephoto where i am in FAD EMEA and FOSDEM 2007 photos. Nicolas Antonio Corrarello ha scritto: > I think is very important for everyone to put a face on every name, to > give a more human approach, as it is discussed on in the MustHave . > Even if i got it wrong, it would be nice to see a picture of each one of > us in the PersonalPages, so I'd like to encourage everyone to do it. > > I started with mine http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NicolasCorrarello , > you can e-mail me to say how ugly or goofy I look :D > > Y.S. -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From mackay3 at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 21:27:40 2007 From: mackay3 at gmail.com (John Mackay) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:27:40 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] The faces of the FedoraProject In-Reply-To: <45F99844.9010004@fedoraproject.org> References: <45F97FDC.9030407@fedoraproject.org> <45F99844.9010004@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <5d88dfb00703151427k7bc2a538v74d631f28404868b@mail.gmail.com> Maybe the people who works at the wiki can set it up as a new field of the user register. 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On 3/15/07, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > > You can just see the event photos, you will find many people there. > > I think it's the best way because people can see we are together. > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > p.s. you can find somephoto where i am in FAD EMEA and FOSDEM 2007 photos. > > Nicolas Antonio Corrarello ha scritto: > > I think is very important for everyone to put a face on every name, to > > give a more human approach, as it is discussed on in the MustHave . > > Even if i got it wrong, it would be nice to see a picture of each one of > > us in the PersonalPages, so I'd like to encourage everyone to do it. > > > > I started with mine http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NicolasCorrarello , > > you can e-mail me to say how ugly or goofy I look :D > > > > Y.S. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I just learned fedora-websites team is adding "FirstnameLastname-head.png" in the HomepageTemplage. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HomepageTemplate Best place to disucss is fedora-website-list. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From nayyares at gmail.com Fri Mar 16 08:48:25 2007 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:48:25 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] wants to update my info Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30703160148o2660939fgcf1bf7a7c17009a9@mail.gmail.com> Heya guys! i have been off screen for a long time, now have been moved to South Africa and working as Data Center Consultant with a company, i want to edit my http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NayyarAhmad info ,but my apologies unable to find the way, please point me to some howto. regards -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll help you. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Fri Mar 16 17:58:23 2007 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:58:23 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure In-Reply-To: <45FAB617.6080104@fedoraproject.org> References: <13dbfe4f0703081356p25fee12dt597e073bcaa5a823@mail.gmail.com> <1173398011.7379.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <13dbfe4f0703150558y7a5dfabdmf8a0dc7299b5db79@mail.gmail.com> <20070315165133.eyonzhb74sw8ssc4@login-15.hoststar.ch> <1173974942.3718.11.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <1174054767.4475.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45FAB617.6080104@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1174067903.3438.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le vendredi 16 mars 2007 ? 16:21 +0100, Francesco Ugolini a ?crit : > I think that people interested in this discussion will join FAD :) > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini Then you are assuming that people who won't go to FAD are NOT interested in FEI. Let me tell you that this is completely the worse behaviour to have. Let's close the mailing list and only organise meeting *somewhere* in Europe / USA / Asia. This will help coordinating the effort worldwild this way... But remember that if you don't go to Asia, it's because you are not interested in. Cheers, Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks > > > > regards, > > > > Fabian > > > > > > > Well, I don't know if translating a licence can be considered as valid. > In French, a licence / law translation is not considered as valid due to > numerous misinterpretations. > > Cheers. > > Thomas True. I would suggest to check with Max and Red Hat Legal Counsel. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From gerold at lugd.org Fri Mar 16 18:25:23 2007 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:25:23 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure In-Reply-To: <1174067903.3438.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <13dbfe4f0703081356p25fee12dt597e073bcaa5a823@mail.gmail.com> <1173398011.7379.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <13dbfe4f0703150558y7a5dfabdmf8a0dc7299b5db79@mail.gmail.com> <20070315165133.eyonzhb74sw8ssc4@login-15.hoststar.ch> <1173974942.3718.11.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <1174054767.4475.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45FAB617.6080104@fedoraproject.org> <1174067903.3438.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1174069523.6074.6.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> Thomas, the FAD should _NOT_ be a further step in closing something, it should be a additional step to get in touch, to discuss things much better than over the ML. Here at a FAD you have all persons at a table who should be effected to any issue which is on the agenda (and not on it) .. Am Freitag, den 16.03.2007, 18:58 +0100 schrieb Thomas Canniot: > Le vendredi 16 mars 2007 ? 16:21 +0100, Francesco Ugolini a ?crit : > > I think that people interested in this discussion will join FAD :) > > > > Regards > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > Then you are assuming that people who won't go to FAD are NOT interested > in FEI. > > Let me tell you that this is completely the worse behaviour to have. > > Let's close the mailing list and only organise meeting *somewhere* in > Europe / USA / Asia. This will help coordinating the effort worldwild > this way... > > But remember that if you don't go to Asia, it's because you are not > interested in. The Fedora Ambassador Day (FAD) is where Ambassadors and other interested members of the Fedora Community come together to plan for future Fedora events and get to know each other. We plan to have a FAD, usually in connection with other Fedora events, in each region once per year. out of http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD Friendly yours Gerold -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From fabian at bernewireless.net Fri Mar 16 18:35:25 2007 From: fabian at bernewireless.net (Fabian Affolter) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:35:25 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] CLA in german In-Reply-To: <1174054140.4475.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20070315174029.xyrgzuga8s4gcc4s@login-15.hoststar.ch> <1174054140.4475.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <45FAE36D.8060401@bernewireless.net> Thomas Canniot schrieb: > Well, I don't know if translating a licence can be considered as valid. > In French, a licence / law translation is not considered as valid due to > numerous misinterpretations. It's a translation of a very complex text and in my eyes it's haven't to be vaild (see below). It's hard to understand even in german. For non-english speaking constributor it's the only way to become an impression of the content of CLA. The translator has made it clear in the into: "Als Grundlage f?r einen Vertrag gilt ausschliesslich die englischsprachige Originalversion des CLA." "The basis for a contract is considered exclusively the english original version of the CLA." and at the end: "Diese ?bersetzung ist kein rechtskr?ftiger Ersatz f?r die englischsprachige Originalversion." "This translation is not a valid replacement for the english original version." regards, Fabian From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Fri Mar 16 18:51:29 2007 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:51:29 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure In-Reply-To: <1174069523.6074.6.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> References: <13dbfe4f0703081356p25fee12dt597e073bcaa5a823@mail.gmail.com> <1173398011.7379.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <13dbfe4f0703150558y7a5dfabdmf8a0dc7299b5db79@mail.gmail.com> <20070315165133.eyonzhb74sw8ssc4@login-15.hoststar.ch> <1173974942.3718.11.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <1174054767.4475.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45FAB617.6080104@fedoraproject.org> <1174067903.3438.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1174069523.6074.6.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> Message-ID: <1174071089.3438.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le vendredi 16 mars 2007 ? 19:25 +0100, Gerold Kassube a ?crit : > Thomas, > > the FAD should _NOT_ be a further step in closing something, it should > be a additional step to get in touch, to discuss things much better than > over the ML. > > Here at a FAD you have all persons at a table who should be effected to > any issue which is on the agenda (and not on it) .. I know, but I don't think it is acceptable to stay without a word on this subject for more than 2 months. > > The Fedora Ambassador Day (FAD) is where Ambassadors and other > interested members of the Fedora Community come together to plan for > future Fedora events and get to know each other. We plan to have a FAD, > usually in connection with other Fedora events, in each region once per > year. > > out of http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD I know :) I was just saying so because Francesco answer is very weird. Cheers, Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For > non-english speaking constributor it's the only way to become an > impression of the content of CLA. > > The translator has made it clear in the into: > > "Als Grundlage f?r einen Vertrag gilt ausschliesslich die > englischsprachige Originalversion des CLA." > > "The basis for a contract is considered exclusively the english original > version of the CLA." > > and at the end: > > "Diese ?bersetzung ist kein rechtskr?ftiger Ersatz f?r die > englischsprachige Originalversion." > > "This translation is not a valid replacement for the english original > version." To add to that, you can add a prominent disclaimer on top "In case of a contradiction between the Official English version of the contributory license agreement and the community German translation, the English version must be considered authoritative. This translation is only available to help German users understand the CLA and must not be considered as a legal document". In German of course. Rahul From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sat Mar 17 00:07:37 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:07:37 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure In-Reply-To: <1174069523.6074.6.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> References: <13dbfe4f0703081356p25fee12dt597e073bcaa5a823@mail.gmail.com> <1173398011.7379.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <13dbfe4f0703150558y7a5dfabdmf8a0dc7299b5db79@mail.gmail.com> <20070315165133.eyonzhb74sw8ssc4@login-15.hoststar.ch> <1173974942.3718.11.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <1174054767.4475.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45FAB617.6080104@fedoraproject.org> <1174067903.3438.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1174069523.6074.6.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703161707s736725c6y6ed715b8aa8dbf58@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, On 3/16/07, Gerold Kassube wrote: > Here at a FAD you have all persons at a table who should be effected to > any issue which is on the agenda (and not on it) .. Sure, it is always best to have all concerned and active contributors around the table. But unfortunately, for some reason or another not every concerned and active contributor can be present and thus it will be unfair for them. I might be such contributor who will miss Linuxtag 2007. So then, according to what you said gerold, my views won't matter since I'll be absent. :( > > Le vendredi 16 mars 2007 ? 16:21 +0100, Francesco Ugolini a ?crit : > > > I think that people interested in this discussion will join FAD :) > Am Freitag, den 16.03.2007, 18:58 +0100 schrieb Thomas Canniot: > > Then you are assuming that people who won't go to FAD are NOT interested > > in FEI. > > > > Let me tell you that this is completely the worse behaviour to have. ThomasCanniot is right here. Like I said above, this will be summarized that I'm not interested in FEI, which is not true. Now by how latest comments were brought forward, we will be doing the _same mistake_ I did for FOSDEM. I've now realised that A big Fedora Event doesn't implicate only fedora ambassadors, but fedora contributors also. Fedora Ambassadors should work with other projects and give the latter's contributors the chance as well during any Fedora Event to participate. If there is a big Fedora Event then it's also the time for contributors of different fedora projects to talk: - among themselves (with contributors of the same fedora project) - e.g FAD, doc meeting, packaging meeting... - with upstream present at the event - with actual partners (if the particular project is working with other distributions) - with possible new contacts with other distributions In the end, i want to converge to one point that in such big Fedora Event, there isn't enough time to talk about everything. Let's spare time if we can, because it will only benefit fedora in overall. Most Fedora Ambassadors are not only dedicated to the Fedora Ambassadors Project, but do also contribute on other Fedora Projects such as KDE, FreeMedia, Documentations, Websites ....... During a Big Fedora Event it's also time for them to meet and discuss their fedora projects as well. (by Fedora Events, I mean those listed in wiki/FedoraEvents) #001: Before FOSDEM FredericHornain said: ""PS: You know it is the first time that a lot Fedora people come to Fosdem so everything can not be perfect. I am pretty sure that we will do better organization next year."" We tried to do our best on the mailing list and discussed many things just to make the event successful. And it was. At FOSDEM, I wanted to get the FEI discussed and started. Unfortunately, we couldn't. Pushing some interesting goals for a later schedule will lead to a delay in the process, which is unfortunate, because we have some potential to make things happen ASAP. #002: Though, sometimes I don't agree at 100% with RahulSundaram's comments, he does lay down new fields that we didn't think that need to be exploited. Since, possibly he can't attend LinuxtagBerlin, we will miss his comments as well as ThomasChung's for the FEI's setup. I prefer to discuss things here on this mailing list in order to allow everyone's to participate and at the same time, let others (none-concerned) to take the FEI as example if FEI is proved to be successful. Yet another way of mentoring which was discussed during the last FAD. #003 ThomasCanniot's recent mail on the French status on FEI showed a different opinion compared to that of the german's. Yes, it is a fact. Perhaps, we may never converge to certain agreement on a common ground. But in fact for fedora's sake, we have to converge to a certain agreement. Yes, in order to hear the different views of "concerned" contributors, it's better to hear it before the LinuxtagBerlin, so that at Linuxtag a decison could be taken and FEI kick off. But if we listen to everyone's views at Linuxtag, it will make FEI's setup a lengthier process. I still welcome any ambassador to express his/her views about the FEI. My wish: Before Linuxtag, 1) discuss and listen views of concerned contributors 2) discuss and listen views of NON concerned contributors (however everyone in this mailing list is concerned since it is Fedora Ambassador PRoject related) 3) setup a proposal of who should be the Executive of FEI 4) know whether MaxSpevack still care to give the budget or not 5) listen to everyone from an _objective_ point of view 6) document on legal issues - at Linuxtag, it will be on the fly, and you will agree with me it isn't appropriate at that time During Linuxtag, 7) bring forward a summary of what has been discussed 8) assign Executives 9) (things what I missed) After Linuxtag, FEI be kick off and everyone is happy. regards, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 07:31:39 2007 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:01:39 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need a few points.. Message-ID: Dear *, Can anybody please give me a few point/link why people should contribute to fedora and overall GNU/Linux? I mean something what will affect the listeners instantly and make them thinking of contributing... Apart from what is mentioned in the overview page,of course. -- ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 10:01:50 2007 From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:01:50 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need a few points.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: the first man to invent fire... practiced the Open Source philosophy. If he would kept it as business secret, the human race would not have developed much. the way you wear trousers, if it wasn't Open Source, just imagine you have to pay each time you wore those pairs of your pajamas; or better be nude ;) So, why not in software... the same practice? On 17/03/07, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Dear *, > Can anybody please give me a few point/link why people should contribute to > fedora and overall GNU/Linux? I mean something what will affect the > listeners instantly and make them thinking of contributing... > Apart from what is mentioned in the overview page,of course. > > -- > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ??? ????? mak --------------------------------------------------------------- First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. From robert at fedoraproject.org Sat Mar 17 12:10:55 2007 From: robert at fedoraproject.org (Robert Scheck) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:10:55 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure In-Reply-To: <20070315165133.eyonzhb74sw8ssc4@login-15.hoststar.ch> References: <13dbfe4f0703081356p25fee12dt597e073bcaa5a823@mail.gmail.com> <1173398011.7379.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <13dbfe4f0703150558y7a5dfabdmf8a0dc7299b5db79@mail.gmail.com> <20070315165133.eyonzhb74sw8ssc4@login-15.hoststar.ch> Message-ID: <20070317121055.GA16600@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> Hello folks, On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, fabian at bernewireless.net wrote: > The goods and services tax (aka MwSt or VAT) is in Switzerland 7,6 %. This > is much lower as in Germany (19 %) or Austria (20 %). Please correct me when > I'm wrong. But this is only one side. Switzerland is not a Member of the EU > (sometimes are there problems with the delivery over the european borders) > and the costs for bank tansactions are around 3-5? (transaction from a swiss > account to an account in Germany). But the "bank secret" (Bankgeheimnis) is > known worldwide. As far as I know, you a) can't simply open an account at a Swiss bank and b) you already need money at the opening to pay in. And I'm not talking about 50 or 100 Euro here. But finally, I've got no Swiss bank account, so I'm not sure, whether my information are correct. > I agree with Thomas. Maybe there is a way that Red Hat Switzerland (or > elsewhere) will open an account in the name of the Fedora project and > two or three ambassadors (from different countries) are responsible for > this account. Opening an account by the help of e.g. Red Hat Switzerland in the name of the Fedora Project sounds well to me, but it could get interesting as the Swiss banks are distrustful for usual because of money laundering. But as said before, I didn't open such an account; it's just what I know. People from Switzerland, please correct me if I'm wrong somewhere... Greetings, Robert From guillaume.kulakowski at fedoraproject.org Sat Mar 17 12:13:36 2007 From: guillaume.kulakowski at fedoraproject.org (Guillaume Kulakowsi) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:13:36 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure In-Reply-To: <45FAB617.6080104@fedoraproject.org> References: <13dbfe4f0703081356p25fee12dt597e073bcaa5a823@mail.gmail.com> <1173398011.7379.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <13dbfe4f0703150558y7a5dfabdmf8a0dc7299b5db79@mail.gmail.com> <20070315165133.eyonzhb74sw8ssc4@login-15.hoststar.ch> <1173974942.3718.11.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> <1174054767.4475.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45FAB617.6080104@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <45FBDB70.1090105@fedoraproject.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Francesco Ugolini a ?crit : > I think that people interested in this discussion will join FAD :) I will make all my possible because I am very interested by a FEI Thomas Canniot a ?crit : > I know, but I don't think it is acceptable to stay without a word on > this subject for more than 2 months. +1 It is necessary to advance a maximum to arrive there with solid bases. - -- Guillaume Kulakowski French Fedora Ambassador Webmaster of the French Fedora Core related website Jabber : llaumgui at jabber.ru MSN Messenger : llaumgui at hotmail.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF+9twGL+mH11RLJcRAg/UAJ9m9sDuWdDd819A8UvQhayAfei9tgCeM/fb fJiL+g923OJhaI1LecAzvFA= =lTJz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From siddharth at techbugs.org Sat Mar 17 14:21:45 2007 From: siddharth at techbugs.org (Siddharth Upmanyu) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:51:45 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need a few points.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ---------- While initiating the GNU Project, RMS wrote: "From: RMS%MIT-OZ at mit-eddie Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards,net.usoft Subject: new UNIX implementation Date: Tue, 27-Sep-83 12:35:59 EST Organization: MIT AI Lab, Cambridge, MA .... "I consider that the golden rule requires that if I like a program I must share it with other people who like it. I cannot in good conscience sign a nondisclosure agreement or a software license agreement. So that I can continue to use computers without violating my principles, I have decided to put together a sufficient body of free software so that I will be able to get along without any software that is not free. ..." --------- Regards Siddharth On 3/17/07, mak wrote: > > the first man to invent fire... practiced the Open Source philosophy. > If he would kept it as business secret, the human race would not have > developed much. > > the way you wear trousers, if it wasn't Open Source, just imagine you > have to pay each time you wore those pairs of your pajamas; or better > be nude ;) > > So, why not in software... the same practice? > > On 17/03/07, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > Dear *, > > Can anybody please give me a few point/link why people should contribute > to > > fedora and overall GNU/Linux? I mean something what will affect the > > listeners instantly and make them thinking of contributing... > > Apart from what is mentioned in the overview page,of course. > > > > -- > > ssh > > 0x86DD170A > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > ??? ????? > mak > --------------------------------------------------------------- > First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, > then they fight you, then you win. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 16:43:51 2007 From: mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com (Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 00:43:51 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need a few points.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/17/07, Siddharth Upmanyu wrote: > > ---------- > > While initiating the GNU Project, RMS wrote: > > "From: RMS%MIT-OZ at mit-eddie > Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards,net.usoft > Subject: new UNIX implementation > Date: Tue, 27-Sep-83 12:35:59 EST > Organization: MIT AI Lab, Cambridge, MA .... > > "I consider that the golden rule requires that if I like a program I > must share it with other people who like it. I cannot in good > conscience sign a nondisclosure agreement or a software license > agreement. > > So that I can continue to use computers without violating my > principles, I have decided to put together a sufficient body of free > software so that I will be able to get along without any software that > is not free. > > ..." Using this point is quite hard to convince normal users and developers who has been taught in MS style development in their education .. I'm also interested to know some good points on how to convince these type of people .. Its easy to convince those with high computer interest .. but others .. its quite hard for me .. In some countries (mine included) , piracy is all over the place and people took it for granted .. preaching about free software, it benefit to them, and licensing etc doesnt give much effect .. they get lots of commercial softwares for nearly free in the first place, and some even have something like this in their mindset -> "Why would i bother to learn to use free software/linux while i can get commercial apps nearly free too .. licensing?? whats that?? like i care... nobody will put lawsuit against me anyway" [snip] -- ----------------------------------------------- regards Hikaru ----------------------------------------------- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com ----------------------------------------------- kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com ----------------------------------------------- From siddharth at techbugs.org Sat Mar 17 19:27:32 2007 From: siddharth at techbugs.org (Siddharth Upmanyu) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 00:57:32 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need a few points.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: well the point is already been laid down... Piracy is bad and cannot be encouraged... even for the stubborn people who take it for granted..., we cannot bend out stand to fit them but a way must be followed to teach them why using OSS is good... Look at Fedora Core 6 it is undoubtably the best OS i have ever used beyond WinXP Vista or Mac... but if somebody says pirated copies of these OSs are easy and are a treat i don't believe.... Regards Siddharth On 3/17/07, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote: > > On 3/17/07, Siddharth Upmanyu wrote: > > > > ---------- > > > > While initiating the GNU Project, RMS wrote: > > > > "From: RMS%MIT-OZ at mit-eddie > > Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards,net.usoft > > Subject: new UNIX implementation > > Date: Tue, 27-Sep-83 12:35:59 EST > > Organization: MIT AI Lab, Cambridge, MA .... > > > > "I consider that the golden rule requires that if I like a program I > > must share it with other people who like it. I cannot in good > > conscience sign a nondisclosure agreement or a software license > > agreement. > > > > So that I can continue to use computers without violating my > > principles, I have decided to put together a sufficient body of free > > software so that I will be able to get along without any software that > > is not free. > > > > ..." > > Using this point is quite hard to convince normal users and developers > who has been taught in MS style development in their education .. > > I'm also interested to know some good points on how to convince these > type of people .. Its easy to convince those with high computer > interest .. but others .. its quite hard for me .. > > In some countries (mine included) , piracy is all over the place and > people took it for granted .. preaching about free software, it > benefit to them, and licensing etc doesnt give much effect .. they get > lots of commercial softwares for nearly free in the first place, and > some even have something like this in their mindset -> "Why would i > bother to learn to use free software/linux while i can get commercial > apps nearly free too .. licensing?? whats that?? like i care... nobody > will put lawsuit against me anyway" > > [snip] > -- > ----------------------------------------------- > regards > Hikaru > ----------------------------------------------- > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > Amano Hikaru > ??? ???? ???? > Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS > ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester > mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com > ----------------------------------------------- > kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com > Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com > ----------------------------------------------- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So up till now, kde and gnome booths are distributing KDE and perhaps but I dont know RedHat might also distribute fedora dvds. So for such big event in Europe, fedora might be everywhere :) Tomorrow, Ill be at the KDE booth with MirjamWaeckerlin till Tuesday, we will see how it goes. regards, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com Sun Mar 18 17:12:26 2007 From: mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mirjam_W=E4ckerlin?=) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:12:26 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: CeBIT2007 In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0703181001t1e3ffe9dle44c82c579f9c411@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0703051508r7613aec6i7f18e4174d7dcd98@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0703181001t1e3ffe9dle44c82c579f9c411@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2afa92000703181012x3ec7b2b4y7df8faa40c43d252@mail.gmail.com> Hi there, On 3/18/07, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 3/6/07, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > So in all, There will be 100 DVDs at the KDE booth for CeBIT. > > An article on cebit and fedora dvds: > http://dot.kde.org/1174224693/ > """"""""We would also like to thank Canonical, Fedora and Novell for > providing CDs featuring the latest and greatest KDE."""""""""""""" > > According to what I heard the KDE guys gave some fedora dvds to the > gnome booth since they didn't have any dvd. > > So up till now, kde and gnome booths are distributing KDE Wow this is great news, gnome is distributing KDE? :-D ...I assume you wanted to say: distributing fedora ;) > and perhaps > but I dont know RedHat might also distribute fedora dvds. So for such > big event in Europe, fedora might be everywhere :) > > Tomorrow, Ill be at the KDE booth with MirjamWaeckerlin till Tuesday, > we will see how it goes. This information is correct ;) Mirjam From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 18 17:19:18 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:19:18 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: CeBIT2007 In-Reply-To: <2afa92000703181012x3ec7b2b4y7df8faa40c43d252@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0703051508r7613aec6i7f18e4174d7dcd98@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0703181001t1e3ffe9dle44c82c579f9c411@mail.gmail.com> <2afa92000703181012x3ec7b2b4y7df8faa40c43d252@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703181019q3ef1e1fbx7d5ace959a4a6ad7@mail.gmail.com> On 3/18/07, Mirjam W?ckerlin wrote: > Wow this is great news, gnome is distributing KDE? :-D > ...I assume you wanted to say: distributing fedora ;) Yes, indeed, distributing Fedora :) -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 18 17:18:51 2007 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:18:51 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: CeBIT2007 In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0703181001t1e3ffe9dle44c82c579f9c411@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0703051508r7613aec6i7f18e4174d7dcd98@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0703181001t1e3ffe9dle44c82c579f9c411@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45FD747B.4080405@fedoraproject.org> Good luck. Yes, the next here we will have a Fedora booth. ;) (it's an imperative) Regards Francesco Ugolini Chitlesh GOORAH ha scritto: > On 3/6/07, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >> So in all, There will be 100 DVDs at the KDE booth for CeBIT. > > An article on cebit and fedora dvds: > http://dot.kde.org/1174224693/ > """"""""We would also like to thank Canonical, Fedora and Novell for > providing CDs featuring the latest and greatest KDE."""""""""""""" > > According to what I heard the KDE guys gave some fedora dvds to the > gnome booth since they didn't have any dvd. > > So up till now, kde and gnome booths are distributing KDE and perhaps > but I dont know RedHat might also distribute fedora dvds. So for such > big event in Europe, fedora might be everywhere :) > > Tomorrow, Ill be at the KDE booth with MirjamWaeckerlin till Tuesday, > we will see how it goes. > > regards, > Chitlesh -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 18 17:42:01 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:12:01 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Need a few points.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45FD79E9.4010001@fedoraproject.org> susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Dear *, > Can anybody please give me a few point/link why people should contribute to > fedora and overall GNU/Linux? I mean something what will affect the > listeners instantly and make them thinking of contributing... > Apart from what is mentioned in the overview page,of course. > The best answer we came up with is in the FAQ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ#head-601a19251b0534d92b5246b362791d8ad66bab68 All of that is true for me. I got a job shift. You can google my name and find all sort of references and I even got a trip to FUDCon. So there.. Rahul From nman64 at n-man.com Sun Mar 18 22:51:19 2007 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick W. Barnes) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:51:19 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] CLA in german In-Reply-To: <45FAF572.9060408@fedoraproject.org> References: <20070315174029.xyrgzuga8s4gcc4s@login-15.hoststar.ch> <45FAE36D.8060401@bernewireless.net> <45FAF572.9060408@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <200703181751.23069.nman64@n-man.com> On Friday 16 March 2007, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > To add to that, you can add a prominent disclaimer on top "In case of a > contradiction between the Official English version of the contributory > license agreement and the community German translation, the English > version must be considered authoritative. This translation is only > available to help German users understand the CLA and must not be > considered as a legal document". In German of course. > +1 Also, note that contributors will eventually have to agree to the original English document. The German translation will not be delivered by the Account System and can only serve as a reference. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://n-man.com/ LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/nman64 Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dimitris at glezos.com Mon Mar 19 02:20:00 2007 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 02:20:00 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora interviews Message-ID: <45FDF350.9030006@glezos.com> Hey all. Today I remembered we have this nifty project called Interviews: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews Basically members of the community throw a dozen of questions to other members and we get to know what they are hacking on and get to see a picture of them. It would be great if some ambassadors could keep this going! These interviews are very interesting and require little time to write the questions. The interviews could be featured on our Fedora News or on our Planet too. Any ideas for future interviewees? Someone who'd like to step forward for the next interview? :) -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 08:29:15 2007 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:59:15 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Need a few points.. In-Reply-To: <45FD79E9.4010001@fedoraproject.org> References: <45FD79E9.4010001@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Thank you very much all... On 18/03/07, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > Dear *, > > Can anybody please give me a few point/link why people should contribute to > > fedora and overall GNU/Linux? I mean something what will affect the > > listeners instantly and make them thinking of contributing... > > Apart from what is mentioned in the overview page,of course. > > > > The best answer we came up with is in the FAQ > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ#head-601a19251b0534d92b5246b362791d8ad66bab68 > > All of that is true for me. I got a job shift. You can google my name > and find all sort of references and I even got a trip to FUDCon. So there.. > > > Rahul > -- ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi From nayyares at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 08:31:51 2007 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:31:51 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag Berlin 2007 Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30703190131m5e263b5cr38aead920cd7ac99@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, let me first introduce my self, I am M.Sc CS and RHCE, I have been working in Free / Open Source Technologies around last five years, mostly Redhat/Fedora based technologies, I have Dev. experience in GTK+ although i am full time Linux SysAdmin, currently I am working as Data Center Consultant in a Brazilian company in Mozambique, Africa. I have publish few articles i.e. some recent links 1. http://howtoforge.org/linux_bind9_and_caching_nameserver 2. http://howtoforge.org/htaccess_authentication 3. http://howtoforge.org/apache_php_mysql_oci8_client_support While i am at the same time Fedora Project Ambassador i.e. *http:// fedoraproject*.org/wiki/*NayyarAhmad *though I d'nt got time to update my profile here :-) but still I am working in various aspect of promoting Free / Open Source word in community. secondly I have started a series of Linux Learning CBTs, currently I am recording them and soon will be realised under GPL i.e. http://cbtcandy.org As you can see the affiliation with Free / Open Source, this time I have decided to participate in LinuxTag Berlin 2007 and become a part of this big event. I want you to know the registeration process and further guide lines, so that I can plan a trip and ensure my presence in LinuxTag Berlin 2007 as it will be "a dream come true" sort of situation. Looking forward, Regrads -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fabian at bernewireless.net Mon Mar 19 11:53:56 2007 From: fabian at bernewireless.net (Fabian Affolter) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:53:56 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] CLA in german In-Reply-To: <200703181751.23069.nman64@n-man.com> References: <20070315174029.xyrgzuga8s4gcc4s@login-15.hoststar.ch> <45FAE36D.8060401@bernewireless.net> <45FAF572.9060408@fedoraproject.org> <200703181751.23069.nman64@n-man.com> Message-ID: <20070319125356.nix8ovx2ooogogk0@login-15.hoststar.ch> Zitat von "Patrick W. Barnes" : >> To add to that, you can add a prominent disclaimer on top "In case of a >> contradiction between the Official English version of the contributory >> license agreement and the community German translation, the English >> version must be considered authoritative. This translation is only >> available to help German users understand the CLA and must not be >> considered as a legal document". In German of course. >> > > +1 The intro has allready covered several possibilities of missunderstanding the the german translation of the CLA. After one new sentence it should not have any more place for misinterpretation of the status of the CLA in german. By the way, the intro of the document has been made according to the translated version of the GPL. > > Also, note that contributors will eventually have to agree to the original > English document. The German translation will not be delivered by the > Account System and can only serve as a reference. that's clear. Regards, Fabian From fabian at bernewireless.net Mon Mar 19 12:06:20 2007 From: fabian at bernewireless.net (Fabian Affolter) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:06:20 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag Berlin 2007 In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30703190131m5e263b5cr38aead920cd7ac99@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30703190131m5e263b5cr38aead920cd7ac99@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070319130620.vq6wt6rmokcok040@login-15.hoststar.ch> Zitat von Nayyar Ahmed : > As you can see the affiliation with Free / Open Source, this time I have > decided to participate in LinuxTag Berlin 2007 > and become a part of this big event. I want you to know the registeration > process and further guide lines, so that I can plan a trip and ensure my > presence in LinuxTag Berlin 2007 as it will be "a > dream come true" sort of situation. Check out the http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2007 Some people will arrive at May, 29 2007 in the morning, like GeroldKa and me. At this day is a FAD planned -> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADLinuxTag2007 Regrads, Fabian From nayyares at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 12:18:01 2007 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:18:01 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag Berlin 2007 In-Reply-To: <20070319130620.vq6wt6rmokcok040@login-15.hoststar.ch> References: <8e1ee2a30703190131m5e263b5cr38aead920cd7ac99@mail.gmail.com> <20070319130620.vq6wt6rmokcok040@login-15.hoststar.ch> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30703190518g7b4d0b5bnfb08ed3cdbf923e6@mail.gmail.com> Hi Fabian: In fact I will be needing Visa to travel Germany, so for that i would be needing an invitation letter, so that i can apply in German High Commission for visit visa. What is the process of getting these invitations? Regards. On 3/19/07, Fabian Affolter wrote: > > Zitat von Nayyar Ahmed : > > > As you can see the affiliation with Free / Open Source, this time I have > > decided to participate in LinuxTag Berlin 2007 > > > and become a part of this big event. I want you to know the > registeration > > process and further guide lines, so that I can plan a trip and ensure > my > > presence in LinuxTag Berlin 2007 as it will > be "a > > dream come true" sort of situation. > > Check out the > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2007 > > Some people will arrive at May, 29 2007 in the morning, like GeroldKa and > me. > At this day is a FAD planned > -> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADLinuxTag2007 > > Regrads, > > Fabian > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fabian at bernewireless.net Mon Mar 19 12:37:30 2007 From: fabian at bernewireless.net (Fabian Affolter) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:37:30 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag Berlin 2007 In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30703190518g7b4d0b5bnfb08ed3cdbf923e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30703190131m5e263b5cr38aead920cd7ac99@mail.gmail.com> <20070319130620.vq6wt6rmokcok040@login-15.hoststar.ch> <8e1ee2a30703190518g7b4d0b5bnfb08ed3cdbf923e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070319133730.kepmnqzz8kg4csos@login-15.hoststar.ch> Zitat von Nayyar Ahmed : > In fact I will be needing Visa to travel Germany, so for that i would be > needing an invitation letter, so that i can apply in German High Commission > for visit visa. What is the process of getting these invitations? I'm swiss and I don't know anything the travelling to Germany from a country that needs a visa. In this case I can't help you. Maybe a german ambassador knows more about that topic. Regards, Fabian From tcallawa at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 13:51:47 2007 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom 'spot' Callaway) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:51:47 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora interviews In-Reply-To: <45FDF350.9030006@glezos.com> References: <45FDF350.9030006@glezos.com> Message-ID: <1174312307.4479.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 02:20 +0000, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > Hey all. > > Today I remembered we have this nifty project called Interviews: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews > > Basically members of the community throw a dozen of questions to other members > and we get to know what they are hacking on and get to see a picture of them. > > It would be great if some ambassadors could keep this going! These interviews > are very interesting and require little time to write the questions. The > interviews could be featured on our Fedora News or on our Planet too. > > Any ideas for future interviewees? Someone who'd like to step forward for the > next interview? :) Go after FESCO, I bet most of them will be willing to be interviewed. Maybe, this is even something where we could get community involvement, have them generate some questions. (e.g. from mailing lists, FedoraForum, etc, etc). ~spot From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Mon Mar 19 12:48:04 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:48:04 +0900 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag Berlin 2007 References: <8e1ee2a30703190131m5e263b5cr38aead920cd7ac99@mail.gmail.com><20070319130620.vq6wt6rmokcok040@login-15.hoststar.ch><8e1ee2a30703190518g7b4d0b5bnfb08ed3cdbf923e6@mail.gmail.com> <20070319133730.kepmnqzz8kg4csos@login-15.hoststar.ch> Message-ID: <012601c76a24$d6579760$0201a8c0@strikeforce> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fabian Affolter" To: Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag Berlin 2007 > Zitat von Nayyar Ahmed : > >> In fact I will be needing Visa to travel Germany, so for that i would be >> needing an invitation letter, so that i can apply in German High >> Commission >> for visit visa. What is the process of getting these invitations? > > I'm swiss and I don't know anything the travelling to Germany from a > country > that needs a visa. In this case I can't help you. Maybe a german > ambassador > knows more about that topic. > > Regards, > > Fabian > > My understanding is that you need a German person to 'vouch' for you. At least thats what I had to provide to Indian counterparts that visited Australia with me. It is more a guarantee that the person is not being a refugee and also if there are any issues they know who to confront. It was a pretty simple letter stating that this person is invited by me and will be staying under our care from [date] -> [date] and is here on business regarding [business] I can't personally remember the whole letter but I remember I had to put in how they were going to be accomodated, costs bourne by and the like. It seems like a waste of time but I think its here to stay for the moment. Good luck Marc Wiriadisastra From polytropolis at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 13:55:48 2007 From: polytropolis at gmail.com (Claus Reheis) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:55:48 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag Berlin 2007 In-Reply-To: <20070319133730.kepmnqzz8kg4csos@login-15.hoststar.ch> References: <8e1ee2a30703190131m5e263b5cr38aead920cd7ac99@mail.gmail.com> <20070319130620.vq6wt6rmokcok040@login-15.hoststar.ch> <8e1ee2a30703190518g7b4d0b5bnfb08ed3cdbf923e6@mail.gmail.com> <20070319133730.kepmnqzz8kg4csos@login-15.hoststar.ch> Message-ID: <1174312548.20764.4.camel@main-station> Hi! On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 13:37 +0100, Fabian Affolter wrote: > Zitat von Nayyar Ahmed : > > > In fact I will be needing Visa to travel Germany, so for that i would be > > needing an invitation letter, so that i can apply in German High Commission > > for visit visa. What is the process of getting these invitations? > > I'm swiss and I don't know anything the travelling to Germany from a country > that needs a visa. In this case I can't help you. Maybe a german ambassador > knows more about that topic. > > Regards, > > Fabian He will need an official invitation of the fedoraproject! With that he can apply for a visa! But a tourist visa should also do it for that short period! Claus > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From nayyares at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 14:04:58 2007 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:04:58 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag Berlin 2007 In-Reply-To: <1174312548.20764.4.camel@main-station> References: <8e1ee2a30703190131m5e263b5cr38aead920cd7ac99@mail.gmail.com> <20070319130620.vq6wt6rmokcok040@login-15.hoststar.ch> <8e1ee2a30703190518g7b4d0b5bnfb08ed3cdbf923e6@mail.gmail.com> <20070319133730.kepmnqzz8kg4csos@login-15.hoststar.ch> <1174312548.20764.4.camel@main-station> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30703190704j6dd71bbco57a8b2faf581cf92@mail.gmail.com> On 3/19/07, Claus Reheis wrote: > > Hi! > > On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 13:37 +0100, Fabian Affolter wrote: > > Zitat von Nayyar Ahmed : > > > > > In fact I will be needing Visa to travel Germany, so for that i would > be > > > needing an invitation letter, so that i can apply in German High > Commission > > > for visit visa. What is the process of getting these invitations? > > > > I'm swiss and I don't know anything the travelling to Germany from a > country > > that needs a visa. In this case I can't help you. Maybe a german > ambassador > > knows more about that topic. > > > > Regards, > > > > Fabian > > He will need an official invitation of the fedoraproject! > With that he can apply for a visa! Yeah , I have confirmed with a traveling agent , they says you need an official fedoraproject invitation for this visa. Could you guys point me to the responsible person issues fedoraproject official invitations. But a tourist visa should also do it for that short period! > > Claus Regards > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Mon Mar 19 14:25:01 2007 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:25:01 +0900 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora interviews References: <45FDF350.9030006@glezos.com> <1174312307.4479.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <016501c76a32$613c9da0$0201a8c0@strikeforce> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom 'spot' Callaway" To: Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora interviews > On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 02:20 +0000, Dimitris Glezos wrote: >> Hey all. >> >> Today I remembered we have this nifty project called Interviews: >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews >> >> Basically members of the community throw a dozen of questions to other >> members >> and we get to know what they are hacking on and get to see a picture of >> them. >> >> It would be great if some ambassadors could keep this going! These >> interviews >> are very interesting and require little time to write the questions. The >> interviews could be featured on our Fedora News or on our Planet too. >> >> Any ideas for future interviewees? Someone who'd like to step forward for >> the >> next interview? :) > > Go after FESCO, I bet most of them will be willing to be interviewed. > > Maybe, this is even something where we could get community involvement, > have them generate some questions. (e.g. from mailing lists, > FedoraForum, etc, etc). > > ~spot > +1 from me I think it would be a great idea to get peoples visions of the future for Fedora Cheers Marc From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 19 14:26:31 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:56:31 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora interviews In-Reply-To: <1174312307.4479.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <45FDF350.9030006@glezos.com> <1174312307.4479.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <45FE9D97.6080107@fedoraproject.org> Tom 'spot' Callaway wrote: > On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 02:20 +0000, Dimitris Glezos wrote: >> Hey all. >> >> Today I remembered we have this nifty project called Interviews: >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews >> >> Basically members of the community throw a dozen of questions to other members >> and we get to know what they are hacking on and get to see a picture of them. >> >> It would be great if some ambassadors could keep this going! These interviews >> are very interesting and require little time to write the questions. The >> interviews could be featured on our Fedora News or on our Planet too. >> >> Any ideas for future interviewees? Someone who'd like to step forward for the >> next interview? :) > > Go after FESCO, I bet most of them will be willing to be interviewed. > > Maybe, this is even something where we could get community involvement, > have them generate some questions. (e.g. from mailing lists, > FedoraForum, etc, etc). Yes. That would be a very interesting things to do. Provide a short introduction to the person. Tell them to send in questions for a time period and select the best ones to send it to the folks you are interviewing either as a editor or based on votes. Rahul From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 20:20:26 2007 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:20:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] hotel at linuxtag Message-ID: We are trying to figure out how many rooms to get at the hotel for LinuxTag. Please see this page if you are planning on coming to the event. Please share the URL with people who are coming, who may not see this email. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2007/Rooms Thank you, Max -- Max Spevack + http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MaxSpevack + gpg key -- http://spevack.org/max.asc + fingerprint -- CD52 5E72 369B B00D 9E9A 773E 2FDB CB46 5A17 CF21 From armelk at akserver.dyndns.org Tue Mar 20 11:46:07 2007 From: armelk at akserver.dyndns.org (Armelk) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:46:07 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora French Ambassadors Weekly Minutes [2007-03-18] Message-ID: <50976.86.203.25.53.1174391167.squirrel@akserver.dyndns.org> Good morning Fedora Ambassadors Team, The french Ambassador team has the great pleasure to share with you the weekly minutes meeting. The goal for us is to give you each week a visibility of our actions. You can find at this adress the full report in French and Enlish : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions/07-03-18 Best regards. French Ambassador Team ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ambassadors *'MrTom' : ThomasCanniot *'llaumgui' : GuillaumeKulakowski *'Pingoomax' : MaximeCarron *'armelk' : ArmelKermorvant *'TitaX' : ThierryDelmonte *'trashy' : JohanCwiklinski *'[splinux]' : DamienDurand *'ChitleshGoorah' : ChitleshGoorah *'SmootherFrOgZ' : XavierLamien *'serenity : BenoitMarcelin Community member *'fclove' : MarieGoeneutte *'koreth' : S?bastienBaudru Transcript Summary 1) IRC Channel moving We decided to change the channel IRC for the Fedora-Fr meetings with the aim to show that we are active and that all the meetings are in the same place. The new channel from 25 the Mars 2007 will be #fedora-meeting The conversations will be held in French, if we see concerns or a dissatisfaction of the other people, we will return on the old channel. In order to show our activity, we will summary in English the meeting and we will post it on the Ambassadors Mailling List. 2) Fedora-fr organisation MrTom received the registration papers from the prefecture, he put all informations and returns them, Trashy has some informations about the bank account, Armelk will contact a local organisation to know which bank is good for us (Management cost, legal support, ...). With the information collected about the banks, it will be necessary to expect a visit of them. 3) Fedora T-shirts The shop is still in construction, we will update some articles on it. Now, we are waiting for the opening of the bank account of the organisation to open it. Titax sends a mail to Armelk with SVG file in attachment, Armelk convert it into EPS format so that this one is to give the manufacturer. 4) To summarize Fedora-fr activities in Nantes Armelk sent a mail on fedora-fr-list to share with you the experience about these 2 days. We are plaining a translation in English for a diffusion on the Ambassadors mailing list, We are already ready to return the next year at these 2 days and we are already invited for a forthcoming day (Install Party) in Nantes on May 12, 2007. We have more informations in fews days. 5) Fedora & local events' *Fedora at the University of Angers(49) March 24th, 2007 - We are invited to the University of Bell-Beille in Angers for 8th Linux Party. - fclove will be present for Fedora installation and share the experiences with the Fedora Users. - As you can see it, the west of France is very active and we start to have solid links with Linux Users Groups. - We put in Fedora-FR calendar all coming events. *Fedora at Maubeuge (59) June 02nd and 03rd, 2007 - Fedora is invited to take part and will have a stand at this event, we make a point of thanking koreth. - We have the possibility to present Fedora on some conferences. - Trashy will be present and maybe [splinux] too. - We will make a kit (DVD Fedora/Flyers/Goodies...). - Dead line for subscription at this event : April 30th, 2007. *Fedora ay Montpellier(34) from June, 14th to June 16th , 2007' -We will have a stand more of the demonstrations. -llaumgui, Pingoomax, sereinity and can be drpixel will be present for this event. 6) Fedora Project No news. 7) Fedora Europe Infrastructure Project llaumgui is invested in this project with ChitleshGoorah 8) FreeMedia Program No new request for Belgium and no new request for France. 9) Open discussions Parinux & Fedora make a new appointment for Fedora 7 release, we decided to go for a new Install Party in Paris in the city of sciences, MrTom comes back to us with a final date. Fedora will be present during the RMLL (Rencontres Mondiales du Logiciel Libre / World Meetings of the Free Software), Armelk contact the organizers to know the methods to be present. Install Party of Lyon, sereinity will send a feedback on this project in the next fews days. From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Tue Mar 20 19:40:16 2007 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:40:16 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] hotel at linuxtag In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1174419616.3688.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le lundi 19 mars 2007 ? 16:20 -0400, Max Spevack a ?crit : > We are trying to figure out how many rooms to get at the hotel for > LinuxTag. > > Please see this page if you are planning on coming to the event. Please > share the URL with people who are coming, who may not see this email. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2007/Rooms > > Thank you, > Max > Thanks for the link ! However, I still don't know if I come and how long I may come. The problem is that I won't know it very soon, but during April. How can we proceed ? Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Mar 20 20:03:03 2007 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:03:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] hotel at linuxtag In-Reply-To: <1174419616.3688.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1174419616.3688.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Thomas Canniot wrote: > Thanks for the link ! > > However, I still don't know if I come and how long I may come. The > problem is that I won't know it very soon, but during April. How can we > proceed ? Just your name with a (maybe) next to it. We really need people who will go to LinuxTag to take a look at that link. --Max From gerold at lugd.org Tue Mar 20 20:42:37 2007 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:42:37 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] hotel at linuxtag In-Reply-To: <1174419616.3688.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1174419616.3688.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1174423357.3863.3.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> Thomas, as you can see on the wiki page (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2007) - please be aware: rooms and prices are only guaranteed until April, 21st later requests have to be handled individual by your own! Because we have to pay in front and we don't want to pay for rooms which are not used. We can cancel rooms latest to that date and we will do so! Regards Gerold Am Dienstag, den 20.03.2007, 20:40 +0100 schrieb Thomas Canniot: > Le lundi 19 mars 2007 ? 16:20 -0400, Max Spevack a ?crit : > > We are trying to figure out how many rooms to get at the hotel for > > LinuxTag. > > > > Please see this page if you are planning on coming to the event. Please > > share the URL with people who are coming, who may not see this email. > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2007/Rooms > > > > Thank you, > > Max > > > > Thanks for the link ! > > However, I still don't know if I come and how long I may come. The > problem is that I won't know it very soon, but during April. > How can we proceed ? > > Thomas > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We've discussed the translation of legal content before. The problem is more than just one of languages. Laws must be translated (interpreted), and in many cases, the legal provisions may not apply the same in all countries. That is the main catch -- a language /= a country. The CLA, for example, is written to be legally binding in only one country, despite how many countries speak/read English as a primary language. A process to translate documents so they could be legally useful (or even binding) might look like this: 1. Trusted translators make initial translation - For Red Hat, it might be best if they used their translation staff 2. The original and translation are read by a lawyer who reads both languages, who understands the original documents intents, and who understands the local laws. This person most likely needs to be licensed to practice law in the target country. 3. Iterate. 4. Result - one, new, translated document that is legally binding in one new country. If you want to take the translation and apply it to another country, start from Step 2. and proceed. The cost per country is not-trivial. Anyway, the main point is, this is not something Fedora can do. We don't have lawyers or resources to hire foreign lawyers. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGAFY6KN6f2pNCvwgRAt8UAJ4wpcufRoM7iUM/2uJyPwh0T1nvhACfRQk9 65wDN+/QwXF0+SwYVRGZTiw= =GKGb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nayyares at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 21 08:27:25 2007 From: nayyares at fedoraproject.org (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:27:25 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] local mailing list creation. Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30703210127l1e4bc50do7751d7834ca86c6e@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, I want to create a local mailing list for Mozambique fedora users on fedoraproject domain, so that i can get people in and they can have discussions, if it is possible then please point me to the process. Regards, -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'd say that my english is of course not perfect, but for a non-native speaker quite ok, but I found it rather exhausting to really understand what I am actually signing. How hard must it be for other people, and how may are signing CLA without knowing what they're signing? We have to consider that some people may also give up on joining the project because they don't want to sign something they don't understand completely. I think it's much more important to actually KNOW what you're signing, while being aware that only the original english text is the basis of the contract. Of course, what Karsten propose would be the perfect solution for everyone. The question is: Since we don't have the means to make the perfect solution possible, Is there any chance that RedHat could support us in this? If there is no way to get this solution in a timely manner, I think what Fabian did is the second best solution and we should continue along his track. Mirjam From omen at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 21 10:33:30 2007 From: omen at fedoraproject.org (SaadAlDine AlSaidi) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:33:30 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] local mailing list creation. In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30703210127l1e4bc50do7751d7834ca86c6e@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30703210127l1e4bc50do7751d7834ca86c6e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200703211233.30479.omen@fedoraproject.org> On Wednesday 21 March 2007 10:27, Nayyar Ahmad wrote: > Hi All, > > I want to create a local mailing list for Mozambique fedora users on > fedoraproject domain, so that i can get people in and they can have > discussions, if it is possible then please point me to the process. > > Regards, This Seems a great idea, but i guess there exist a fedora forum. http://www.fedoraforum.org/ I guess it might be better there , I mean for discussions and stuff. Or yet, I'm a newbie here, how should i know. :D ---- Saadaldine AlSaidi omen at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SaadaldineAlsaidi From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 21 13:59:59 2007 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:59:59 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] local mailing list creation. In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30703210127l1e4bc50do7751d7834ca86c6e@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30703210127l1e4bc50do7751d7834ca86c6e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46013A5F.2090305@fedoraproject.org> Mailing lists general are one per project (or more for different, but common language). You can just use fedora-marketing-list to share ideas. Regards Francesco Ugolini Nayyar Ahmad ha scritto: > Hi All, > > I want to create a local mailing list for Mozambique fedora users on > fedoraproject domain, so that i can get people in and they can have > discussions, if it is possible then please point me to the process. > > Regards, > > -- > Nayyar Ahmad > RHCE (ID:804006858622745) > Skype: nayyares > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From nayyares at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 14:10:50 2007 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:10:50 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] local mailing list creation. In-Reply-To: <46013A5F.2090305@fedoraproject.org> References: <8e1ee2a30703210127l1e4bc50do7751d7834ca86c6e@mail.gmail.com> <46013A5F.2090305@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30703210710s37212eeal538d1cab4d8455ee@mail.gmail.com> On 3/21/07, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > > Mailing lists general are one per project (or more for different, but > common language). You can just use fedora-marketing-list to share ideas. in fact, i was thinking to have technical discussion LUG list for fedora, here in mozambique, and pull user to post their problem , and try to solve them in local mailing list. as there is no Linux Group/ Mailing list in Mozambique so it might be a good idea *in my opinion* thanks Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > Nayyar Ahmad ha scritto: > > Hi All, > > > > I want to create a local mailing list for Mozambique fedora users on > > fedoraproject domain, so that i can get people in and they can have > > discussions, if it is possible then please point me to the process. > > > > Regards, > > > > -- > > Nayyar Ahmad > > RHCE (ID:804006858622745) > > Skype: nayyares > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This decision came from the consideration that it's necessary to have a continuity in the guidance of Ambassadors and in FAmSCo work. To see the changes please refer to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Election/Rules The actual FAmSCo will stay in charge since Fedora 8 will be release, after this the Chair will call for new election and the new FAmSCo members will stay in charge for two (2) major releases. Thanks for your attention. Francesco Ugolini From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 21 14:48:50 2007 From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:48:50 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors' meeting reminder - Thursday 22th March 22.00 UTC Message-ID: <460145D2.4090401@fedoraproject.org> I want to remember all ambassadors that tomorrow there will be a meeting at 22.00 UTC in #fedora-meeting channel. Http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2007-03-22 to see the agenda or to add new topics to this one. Thanks for your attention Francesco Ugolini -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 14:50:38 2007 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:50:38 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Bharatiyam Techfest at Pune (India) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Where in your fest Fedora can get involved? -- ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi From guillermo.gomez at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 16:11:33 2007 From: guillermo.gomez at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?Ikd1aWxsZXJtbyBHw7NtZXogUy4i?=) Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:11:33 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Venezuela Sticker V1 Message-ID: <46015935.3020601@gmail.com> Hi all, i just want to present the winner design for our very fist sticker for PC/Laptops during ISEIT install fest just to confirm there's no issue to produce them. Other designs during the contest are available in http://www.fedora-ve.org/calcomanias/ Fedora Venezuela Sticker V1 -- Gomix Guillermo G?mez S. cms fedora-ve http://www.fedora-ve.org blog http://blog.gomix.org soporte fedora-ve en irc.freenode.net, canal fedora-ve lista email fedora-ve at googlegroups.com Key fingerprint = 3143 8BDB 48A2 3241 E62A B743 D177 CAD7 3205 A464 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: calco12.png Type: image/png Size: 74901 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30703210127l1e4bc50do7751d7834ca86c6e@mail.gmail.com> References: <8e1ee2a30703210127l1e4bc50do7751d7834ca86c6e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0703211540i2f23161ar4eeab2b3cca49968@mail.gmail.com> On 3/21/07, Nayyar Ahmad wrote: > Hi All, > > I want to create a local mailing list for Mozambique fedora users on > fedoraproject domain, so that i can get people in and they can have > discussions, if it is possible then please point me to the process. > > Regards, > > -- > Nayyar Ahmad I believe you will need to contact Fedora Infrastructure Team. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 22 02:17:55 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 07:47:55 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] CLA in german In-Reply-To: <2afa92000703210255r617a6bb3y277fc24f36742d7e@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070315174029.xyrgzuga8s4gcc4s@login-15.hoststar.ch> <1174054140.4475.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> <369bce3b0703161102u64063269xf01325a73d9a2ad8@mail.gmail.com> <1174425539.18755.290.camel@erato.phig.org> <2afa92000703210255r617a6bb3y277fc24f36742d7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4601E753.7050102@fedoraproject.org> Mirjam W?ckerlin wrote: > Hello, > > I understand the legal problems translations would impose. Though, I > think the solution of Fabian is a great idea - to translate CLA by > professional translators and add one or two sentences like he did to > clarify that only the english original is legally binding. > I'd say that my english is of course not perfect, but for a non-native > speaker quite ok, but I found it rather exhausting to really > understand what I am actually signing. How hard must it be for other > people, and how may are signing CLA without knowing what they're > signing? We have to consider that some people may also give up on > joining the project because they don't want to sign something they > don't understand completely. > > I think it's much more important to actually KNOW what you're signing, > while being aware that only the original english text is the basis of > the contract. > > Of course, what Karsten propose would be the perfect solution for everyone. > > The question is: Since we don't have the means to make the perfect > solution possible, Is there any chance that RedHat could support us in > this? > If there is no way to get this solution in a timely manner, I think > what Fabian did is the second best solution and we should continue > along his track. > See https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2007-March/msg00191.html Rahul From nayyares at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 06:45:12 2007 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:45:12 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] No LinuxTag for me In-Reply-To: <1174510782.3288.37.camel@dhcp67.install.boston.redhat.com> References: <1174510782.3288.37.camel@dhcp67.install.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30703212345v525c3211lf4010e39714d10c4@mail.gmail.com> On 3/21/07, Tom spot Callaway wrote: > > Sorry guys, but there is no way I can make it to LinuxTag this year. > There is no more money in the Fedora budget for me to fly anywhere, and > the airline where I have all of my mileage doesn't fly to Berlin (or > anywhere nearby). Don't have the $$$ to pay it out of pocket. btw, is there any approximate idea, how much it cost to stay in Brussels for linuxtag? obviously excluding shopping :-p Max and Mike will be there, you don't need me anyways. :) > > ~spot > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen From fabian at bernewireless.net Thu Mar 22 09:18:43 2007 From: fabian at bernewireless.net (Fabian Affolter) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:18:43 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] No LinuxTag for me In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30703212345v525c3211lf4010e39714d10c4@mail.gmail.com> References: <1174510782.3288.37.camel@dhcp67.install.boston.redhat.com> <8e1ee2a30703212345v525c3211lf4010e39714d10c4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070322101843.jlog4ffpq8kccwsg@login-15.hoststar.ch> Zitat von Nayyar Ahmad : > btw, is there any approximate idea, how much it cost to stay in Brussels for > linuxtag? obviously excluding shopping :-p The price for the accommodation is more or less clear, I think. Berlin has a well organized system of public transportation. Maybe it's possible to reach the "Funkturm" on foot, no tickets. The price for a one-way ticket is 2.1 euros (short distance 1.4 euro). To the airport it's maybe more... For food and breverage you can take the lists from the hotel as reference. http://www.pegasushostel.de/en/hostel/berlin/restaurant/menu.pdf http://www.pegasushostel.de/en/hostel/berlin/restaurant/empfehlung_en.pdf http://www.pegasushostel.de/en/hostel/berlin/restaurant/drinks.pdf But I guess, there are several possibilities to eat and drink cheaper. Regards, Fabian From gerold at lugd.org Fri Mar 23 14:40:43 2007 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:40:43 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] hotel at linuxtag In-Reply-To: <4600563A.6020300@kanarip.com> References: <4600563A.6020300@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <1174660843.3832.19.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> Hi Friends, unfortunately the Hotel made a mistake with the rooms and misunderstood my first request of rooms. Please have a look at the wiki and place your room as you all wish :-) Sorry for confusing you all guys! We have now: 4 single room with shower (EUR 45/night and person) 4 double rooms (EUR 35/night and person) and 6 triple rooms (EUR 18/night and person) I changed the wiki and hope you'll all find the room you'd like to have :-) Cheers until (hopefully latest!!!!) Linuxtag in Berlin gerold -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From stickster at gmail.com Sat Mar 24 17:37:07 2007 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:37:07 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Venezuela Sticker V1 In-Reply-To: <46015935.3020601@gmail.com> References: <46015935.3020601@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1174757827.11141.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 12:11 -0400, "Guillermo G?mez S." wrote: > Hi all, i just want to present the winner design for our very fist > sticker for PC/Laptops during ISEIT install fest just to confirm > there's no issue to produce them. > > Other designs during the contest are available in > http://www.fedora-ve.org/calcomanias/ The logo usage guidelines are posted here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines It's recommended to leave some more space between the actual Fedora logo and the word "VENEZUELA." The recommended amount is the size of one "x-height," or the height of one of the unadorned lowercase characters ("e", "o", "r", or "a") in the logo. 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So for such > big event in Europe, fedora might be everywhere :) Well RH wasn't distributing any fedora dvds': KDE Booth @ CeBIT2007 _ http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2007/03/kde-booth-cebit2007.html#links CeBIT2007: KDE4 session on my Fedora 7 _ http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2007/03/cebit2007-kde4-session-on-my-fedora-7.html#links regards, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 25 20:55:10 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 22:55:10 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] No LinuxTag for me In-Reply-To: <1174510782.3288.37.camel@dhcp67.install.boston.redhat.com> References: <1174510782.3288.37.camel@dhcp67.install.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703251355r10fc075cref2a10aec0de8f7b@mail.gmail.com> On 3/21/07, Tom spot Callaway wrote: > Sorry guys, but there is no way I can make it to LinuxTag this year. Sorry, I can't neither :( regards, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 03:00:11 2007 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:00:11 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Report : Dakshh07 Message-ID: The event Dakshh07 was better than our expectation... There were a lot of participation in the Fedora event.We managed to provide everyone with Fedora DVDs and Ubuntu Cds. We also provided each one with a jump start guide which contains few basic commands,name of basic applications,Structure and philosophy of GNU/Linux to get people started. Also as far as Participation is concerned it was just great to see people are getting really interested in Linux.I had to explain things for a long time after my seminar. I expect atleat a few of them will join the Fedora / Linux community. And one more thing ,this event was a organised on a complete Linux base. That is , each every competetion , Debugging , Presentation , Slide show , everything was on Linux.. That,I hope , will increase the awareness where Linux penetration is very low. Next year, probably I can do a whole day of Linux event there. And yes..A question.. * Can I upload my presentation made for this event ? How ? Whom should I send it for review ?* As because its on _Why and How to get involved into Fedora community_ , it may help somebody later. -- ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 26 03:21:48 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 08:51:48 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Report : Dakshh07 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46073C4C.9050801@fedoraproject.org> susmit shannigrahi wrote: > The event Dakshh07 was better than our expectation... > > There were a lot of participation in the Fedora event.We managed to > provide everyone with Fedora DVDs and Ubuntu Cds. > > We also provided each one with a jump start guide which contains few > basic commands,name of basic applications,Structure and philosophy of > GNU/Linux to get people started. Do you have a online copy of this? > > Also as far as Participation is concerned it was just great to see > people are getting really interested in Linux.I had to explain things > for a long time after my seminar. I expect atleat a few of them will > join the Fedora / Linux community. > > And one more thing ,this event was a organised on a complete Linux > base. That is , each every competetion , Debugging , Presentation , > Slide show , everything was on Linux.. > That,I hope , will increase the awareness where Linux penetration is > very low. > > Next year, probably I can do a whole day of Linux event there. > > And yes..A question.. * Can I upload my presentation made for this > event ? How ? Whom should I send it for review ?* > As because its on _Why and How to get involved into Fedora community_ > , it may help somebody later. You can upload the presentations to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations. Thanks for the report. Rahul From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 11:19:24 2007 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:19:24 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Report : Dakshh07 In-Reply-To: <46073C4C.9050801@fedoraproject.org> References: <46073C4C.9050801@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On 25/03/07, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > The event Dakshh07 was better than our expectation... > > > > There were a lot of participation in the Fedora event.We managed to > > provide everyone with Fedora DVDs and Ubuntu Cds. > > > > We also provided each one with a jump start guide which contains few > > basic commands,name of basic applications,Structure and philosophy of > > GNU/Linux to get people started. > > Do you have a online copy of this? Sure... Here it is... http://dakshh.org/html/data/files/GNU+Linux.pdf > > > > > Also as far as Participation is concerned it was just great to see > > people are getting really interested in Linux.I had to explain things > > for a long time after my seminar. I expect atleat a few of them will > > join the Fedora / Linux community. > > > > And one more thing ,this event was a organised on a complete Linux > > base. That is , each every competetion , Debugging , Presentation , > > Slide show , everything was on Linux.. > > That,I hope , will increase the awareness where Linux penetration is > > very low. > > > > Next year, probably I can do a whole day of Linux event there. > > > > And yes..A question.. * Can I upload my presentation made for this > > event ? How ? Whom should I send it for review ?* > > As because its on _Why and How to get involved into Fedora community_ > > , it may help somebody later. > > You can upload the presentations to > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations. Thanks for the report. Still not very sure..How do I _upload_ it ? I mean I don't have any server space..So I cannot link to that..Does fedoraproject.org provide space for uploading ? If yes How to upload ? > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 11:28:28 2007 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:28:28 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Report : Dakshh07 In-Reply-To: References: <46073C4C.9050801@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: > > Still not very sure..How do I _upload_ it ? I mean I don't have any > server space..So I cannot link to that..Does fedoraproject.org provide > space for uploading ? If yes How to upload ? Yeah..Got it..Thanks. -- ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi From mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com Mon Mar 26 21:45:11 2007 From: mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mirjam_W=E4ckerlin?=) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:45:11 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora European Infrastructure - 2nd try Message-ID: <2afa92000703261445y6d074358k361d692ae58173ed@mail.gmail.com> Hello, The thread about Fedora European Infrastructure (FEI) has been silent for quite a while ? too long IMHO. It would be a pity if this idea went down, because we have the possibility to enhance the infrastructure in Europe now, and chances like this don't come along every day. By now, European Ambassadors are dependent from RedHat US when it comes to shipping dvds, merchandise, or having money for events etc. If the FEI idea succeeds, Europe could have its own budget (and more autonomy), and FEI will decide who will get the money. I've got the impression that there is no clear picture of what FEI would do and what it would be good for. Let give me some very simple ?use cases" of what FEI could do. Someone wants to do a fedora booth on an important event. For costs like printing flyers, merchandise, travelling and hotel he can ask FEI who will decide if and how much money from the budget he will get. Some events are more important than others, and the budget may not be enough to cover all of them. FEI will create a public list with events who have to be covered (with the help of all European Ambassadors). Someone experiences problems while organising an event (this problems may be: finances, the application for the event or others) FEI is the point of contact. Non-local European events (like Fosdem or European FADs) where Ambassadors from all over Europe/the world will meet will be coordinated by FEI. French Ambassadors have made the decision to create a local entity. If Ambassadors from a country do so, they will have all the support from FEI (and from all other Ambassadors, too, of course). Creating a local entity though is a lot of work which is not Fedora specific, meaning the work is mostly bureaucratic and centering at legal tasks. This is - with FEI - not imperatively needed, because FEI will create the missing infrastructure and step in, especially where Europeans feel left behind. But if Ambassadors from a country are still convinced that they need a legal entity, they merit the support from all of us. The question if FEI should be a legal entity: personally, I wouldn't like it, because FEI is not there for doing bureaucratic tasks. But this point should be clarified by a lawyer, to be sure that there won't be any legal problems. Another proposition on this list was to wait till LinuxTag to discuss the subject over there. I think it's better to discuss and make the decision here, because this is an important subject where everybody should have the possibility to discuss about and get involved. Let's use Linuxtag as a place to officially launch FEI. Chitlesh and I think Gerold will be the perfect ambassador to cut the ribbon ;-) Now, I ask every Ambassador on this list: take five minutes and think about this idea, and how we can get it to work. Then reply here, or better: speed to the wikipage to edit it (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/Europe). And last but not least: if you are interested in becoming the FEI, raise your hand! Regards, Mirjam From hanafiah at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 27 15:27:48 2007 From: hanafiah at fedoraproject.org (Hanafiah Muhamad) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:27:48 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador Official letter Message-ID: <5028e1a00703270827h4a989266jb32da9e01c2362d4@mail.gmail.com> Hi guys, 1st of all, Thank you for supporting Fedora :). I have face few problem (unconfident situation) about declaring myself as fedora ambassador (even stated in wiki (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CategoryAmbassadorsMalaysia). This happen when I turn seriously to promote fedora Linux to local university. I can only get into university which i have contact in it. Most of people required some identification (like letter of appointed) to clarify the person. Promoting Fedora to company or university is like selling a product. People that selling need to be clarify in oder to trust his product. (even no profit to the seller). Therefor i would like to suggest FESCO to write a letter of appointed to all ambassadors in oder to make promoting Fedora became professional task and fun. Best Regards; --- Mohd Hanafiah bin Muhamad Fedora Ambassadors for Malaysia http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HanafiahMuhamad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Most > of people required some identification (like letter of appointed) to > clarify the person. > > Promoting Fedora to company or university is like selling a product. People > that selling need to be clarify in oder to trust his product. (even no > profit to the seller). Therefor i would like to suggest FESCO to write a > letter of appointed to all ambassadors in oder to make promoting Fedora > became professional task and fun. > > Best Regards; > --- > Mohd Hanafiah bin Muhamad > Fedora Ambassadors for Malaysia > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HanafiahMuhamad Hello All, I Really support Hanafiah's Idea, since most of the people i meet asked for more than Personal B.cards a URL to the wiki. Somehow i managed to work my way, but still accessing more places and people need more identification. Regards ---- SaadAlDine AlSaidi From mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com Tue Mar 27 16:16:34 2007 From: mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com (Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:16:34 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador Official letter In-Reply-To: <200703271858.53696.omen@fedoraproject.org> References: <5028e1a00703270827h4a989266jb32da9e01c2362d4@mail.gmail.com> <200703271858.53696.omen@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On 3/27/07, SaadAlDine AlSaidi wrote: > On Tuesday 27 March 2007 18:27, Hanafiah Muhamad wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > 1st of all, Thank you for supporting Fedora :). I have face few problem > > (unconfident situation) about declaring myself as fedora ambassador (even > > stated in wiki (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CategoryAmbassadorsMalaysia). > > This happen when I turn seriously to promote fedora Linux to local > > university. I can only get into university which i have contact in it. Most > > of people required some identification (like letter of appointed) to > > clarify the person. > > > > Promoting Fedora to company or university is like selling a product. People > > that selling need to be clarify in oder to trust his product. (even no > > profit to the seller). Therefor i would like to suggest FESCO to write a > > letter of appointed to all ambassadors in oder to make promoting Fedora > > became professional task and fun. > > > > Best Regards; > > --- > > Mohd Hanafiah bin Muhamad > > Fedora Ambassadors for Malaysia > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HanafiahMuhamad > Hello All, > I Really support Hanafiah's Idea, since most of the people i meet asked for > more than Personal B.cards a URL to the wiki. Somehow i managed to work my > way, but still accessing more places and people need more identification. > > Regards > ---- > SaadAlDine AlSaidi > +1 having an official identification will make it easier to gain trust from certain places -- ----------------------------------------------- regards Hikaru ----------------------------------------------- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com ----------------------------------------------- kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com ----------------------------------------------- From nihedmm at gmail.com Tue Mar 27 16:31:46 2007 From: nihedmm at gmail.com (nihed mbarek) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:31:46 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador Official letter In-Reply-To: References: <5028e1a00703270827h4a989266jb32da9e01c2362d4@mail.gmail.com> <200703271858.53696.omen@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <5bddd8fd0703270931h109e92b6q5aebd6666b882afd@mail.gmail.com> +1 2007/3/27, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail : > > On 3/27/07, SaadAlDine AlSaidi wrote: > > On Tuesday 27 March 2007 18:27, Hanafiah Muhamad wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > 1st of all, Thank you for supporting Fedora :). I have face few > problem > > > (unconfident situation) about declaring myself as fedora ambassador > (even > > > stated in wiki ( > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CategoryAmbassadorsMalaysia). > > > This happen when I turn seriously to promote fedora Linux to local > > > university. I can only get into university which i have contact in it. > Most > > > of people required some identification (like letter of appointed) to > > > clarify the person. > > > > > > Promoting Fedora to company or university is like selling a product. > People > > > that selling need to be clarify in oder to trust his product. (even no > > > profit to the seller). Therefor i would like to suggest FESCO to write > a > > > letter of appointed to all ambassadors in oder to make promoting > Fedora > > > became professional task and fun. > > > > > > Best Regards; > > > --- > > > Mohd Hanafiah bin Muhamad > > > Fedora Ambassadors for Malaysia > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HanafiahMuhamad > > Hello All, > > I Really support Hanafiah's Idea, since most of the people i meet asked > for > > more than Personal B.cards a URL to the wiki. Somehow i managed to work > my > > way, but still accessing more places and people need more > identification. > > > > Regards > > ---- > > SaadAlDine AlSaidi > > > > +1 > > having an official identification will make it easier to gain trust > from certain places > > -- > ----------------------------------------------- > regards > Hikaru > ----------------------------------------------- > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > Amano Hikaru > ??? ???? ???? > Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS > ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester > mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com > ----------------------------------------------- > kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com > Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com > ----------------------------------------------- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- M'BAREK Med Nihed, Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Most > > of people required some identification (like letter of appointed) to > > clarify the person. > > > > Promoting Fedora to company or university is like selling a product. People > > that selling need to be clarify in oder to trust his product. (even no > > profit to the seller). Therefor i would like to suggest FESCO to write a > > letter of appointed to all ambassadors in oder to make promoting Fedora > > became professional task and fun. All, I would like to remind you. We *already* have a template for Ambassadors Business Card. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards You may customize it as it fits for your needs. If they need a verification, you many point them to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification Regards, Ps. We're FAMSCo not FESCo :) -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From hanafiah at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 27 18:33:53 2007 From: hanafiah at fedoraproject.org (Hanafiah Muhamad) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 02:33:53 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador Official letter In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703271124j2f3acc25xd18553f1367932cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <5028e1a00703270827h4a989266jb32da9e01c2362d4@mail.gmail.com> <200703271858.53696.omen@fedoraproject.org> <369bce3b0703271124j2f3acc25xd18553f1367932cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5028e1a00703271133x4b40d77exd79f27da45c63bc9@mail.gmail.com> Excuse me FAMSCo Sirs; :) When we are dealing with business,we shouldn't request customer to check the verification online. It's like: I left my authorization letter at home, come and check it to verify me :). So when the letter is provided, it will be : Here's my authorization letter. For further checking you can also come to my house. :). The letter will change the ambassador communicate with users and organization. The bussiness card is very good, but if it come with letter, it will become great. Adios. On 3/28/07, Thomas Chung wrote: > > > On Tuesday 27 March 2007 18:27, Hanafiah Muhamad wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > 1st of all, Thank you for supporting Fedora :). I have face few > problem > > > (unconfident situation) about declaring myself as fedora ambassador > (even > > > stated in wiki ( > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CategoryAmbassadorsMalaysia). > > > This happen when I turn seriously to promote fedora Linux to local > > > university. I can only get into university which i have contact in it. > Most > > > of people required some identification (like letter of appointed) to > > > clarify the person. > > > > > > Promoting Fedora to company or university is like selling a product. > People > > > that selling need to be clarify in oder to trust his product. (even no > > > profit to the seller). Therefor i would like to suggest FESCO to write > a > > > letter of appointed to all ambassadors in oder to make promoting > Fedora > > > became professional task and fun. > > > All, > I would like to remind you. We *already* have a template for > Ambassadors Business Card. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/BusinessCards > You may customize it as it fits for your needs. > If they need a verification, you many point them to: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification > Regards, > Ps. We're FAMSCo not FESCo :) > -- > Thomas Chung > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- --- Mohd Hanafiah bin Muhamad Fedora Ambassadors for Malaysia http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HanafiahMuhamad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The letter will change the ambassador communicate with users and > organization. The bussiness card is very good, but if it come with letter, > it will become great. I'll discuss with FAMSco and let you know. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 27 19:10:32 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:10:32 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador Official letter In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703271142q54136ed3mfee2278ba6ea1955@mail.gmail.com> References: <5028e1a00703270827h4a989266jb32da9e01c2362d4@mail.gmail.com> <200703271858.53696.omen@fedoraproject.org> <369bce3b0703271124j2f3acc25xd18553f1367932cf@mail.gmail.com> <5028e1a00703271133x4b40d77exd79f27da45c63bc9@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0703271142q54136ed3mfee2278ba6ea1955@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0703271210ue9e3207x873ffcbd06b385ec@mail.gmail.com> On 3/27/07, Thomas Chung wrote: > On 3/27/07, Hanafiah Muhamad wrote: > > When we are dealing with business,we shouldn't request customer to check the > > verification online. It's like: I left my authorization letter at home, come > > and check it to verify me :). So when the letter is provided, it will be : > > Here's my authorization letter. For further checking you can also come to my > > house. :). The letter will change the ambassador communicate with users and > > organization. The bussiness card is very good, but if it come with letter, > > it will become great. > > I'll discuss with FAMSco and let you know. > Regards, All, Verification Letter for Fedora Ambassadors is now available at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/VerificationLetter Please note this letter is used for Identifcation purpose only and it may not used for any other purpose. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 27 19:21:27 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:21:27 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador Official letter In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703271210ue9e3207x873ffcbd06b385ec@mail.gmail.com> References: <5028e1a00703270827h4a989266jb32da9e01c2362d4@mail.gmail.com> <200703271858.53696.omen@fedoraproject.org> <369bce3b0703271124j2f3acc25xd18553f1367932cf@mail.gmail.com> <5028e1a00703271133x4b40d77exd79f27da45c63bc9@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0703271142q54136ed3mfee2278ba6ea1955@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0703271210ue9e3207x873ffcbd06b385ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703271221j331aad1ep3a5dc83551a688a8@mail.gmail.com> On 3/27/07, Thomas Chung wrote: > All, > Verification Letter for Fedora Ambassadors is now available at: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/VerificationLetter > Please note this letter is used for Identifcation purpose only and it > may not used for any other purpose. > Regards, Typo: CommitteE Fedora Ambassadors Steering CommitteE Chair Fedora Project chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From hanafiah at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 27 19:23:36 2007 From: hanafiah at fedoraproject.org (Hanafiah Muhamad) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 03:23:36 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador Official letter In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0703271221j331aad1ep3a5dc83551a688a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <5028e1a00703270827h4a989266jb32da9e01c2362d4@mail.gmail.com> <200703271858.53696.omen@fedoraproject.org> <369bce3b0703271124j2f3acc25xd18553f1367932cf@mail.gmail.com> <5028e1a00703271133x4b40d77exd79f27da45c63bc9@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0703271142q54136ed3mfee2278ba6ea1955@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0703271210ue9e3207x873ffcbd06b385ec@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0703271221j331aad1ep3a5dc83551a688a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5028e1a00703271223l66f0648cma410e3fe9a7cdbb1@mail.gmail.com> Thank You guys,...... Long Live Fedora :) On 3/28/07, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > On 3/27/07, Thomas Chung wrote: > > All, > > Verification Letter for Fedora Ambassadors is now available at: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/VerificationLetter > > Please note this letter is used for Identifcation purpose only and it > > may not used for any other purpose. > > Regards, > > Typo: CommitteE > > Fedora Ambassadors Steering CommitteE Chair > Fedora Project > > chitlesh > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- --- Mohd Hanafiah bin Muhamad Fedora Ambassadors for Malaysia http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HanafiahMuhamad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From gerold at lugd.org Tue Mar 27 19:46:09 2007 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:46:09 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador Official letter In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703271230t57f0b17cv76c368a563ae84d8@mail.gmail.com> References: <5028e1a00703270827h4a989266jb32da9e01c2362d4@mail.gmail.com> <200703271858.53696.omen@fedoraproject.org> <369bce3b0703271124j2f3acc25xd18553f1367932cf@mail.gmail.com> <5028e1a00703271133x4b40d77exd79f27da45c63bc9@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0703271142q54136ed3mfee2278ba6ea1955@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0703271210ue9e3207x873ffcbd06b385ec@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0703271221j331aad1ep3a5dc83551a688a8@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0703271230t57f0b17cv76c368a563ae84d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1175024769.3687.5.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> mmmmh .... Thomas; nice try :-) ok, good work .... What do think about the idea of an "Certificate of authorithy" with a duration time on it; same text as yours only with a more "graphical" section (maybe Diana Fong can help with a special "Ambassador grafic Certificate") and a value duration time ... ... means like this: This certificate is valid from January 1st 2007 until December 31st 2007 and guarantees that the Ambassador ..... ..... is official Ambassador of the Fedora Project based in ...... Something like this. Maybe also as an web based "application" on which you have to authenticate and create your own certificate with the Signature from Max???! Think about (if you want to) And again; ... just my five cents Gerold Am Dienstag, den 27.03.2007, 12:30 -0700 schrieb Thomas Chung: > On 3/27/07, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > Typo: CommitteE > > > > Fedora Ambassadors Steering CommitteE Chair > > Fedora Project > > > > chitlesh > > Good eye. :) > Fixed. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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LUG Camp Interlaken / Switzerland May, 17th till May, 20th 2007 http://2007.lug-camp.ch/ Regards, Fabian -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGCZMT4jzS3TakOX8RAjvLAJ9F2PHrzA8RBf3s5E88GKZep/wv/wCdGVE2 c2GXjL5MMozIT6v89b0QQ2E= =7KZG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 00:34:21 2007 From: mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com (Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:34:21 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador Official letter In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703271210ue9e3207x873ffcbd06b385ec@mail.gmail.com> References: <5028e1a00703270827h4a989266jb32da9e01c2362d4@mail.gmail.com> <200703271858.53696.omen@fedoraproject.org> <369bce3b0703271124j2f3acc25xd18553f1367932cf@mail.gmail.com> <5028e1a00703271133x4b40d77exd79f27da45c63bc9@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0703271142q54136ed3mfee2278ba6ea1955@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0703271210ue9e3207x873ffcbd06b385ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/28/07, Thomas Chung wrote: > All, > Verification Letter for Fedora Ambassadors is now available at: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/VerificationLetter > Please note this letter is used for Identifcation purpose only and it > may not used for any other purpose. > Regards, > -- > Thomas Chung > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > Thanks!! :D (wow that was fast) -- ----------------------------------------------- regards Hikaru ----------------------------------------------- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com ----------------------------------------------- kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com ----------------------------------------------- From justinbisted at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 05:38:08 2007 From: justinbisted at gmail.com (Justin M Bisted) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:38:08 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador Official letter In-Reply-To: References: <5028e1a00703270827h4a989266jb32da9e01c2362d4@mail.gmail.com> <200703271858.53696.omen@fedoraproject.org> <369bce3b0703271124j2f3acc25xd18553f1367932cf@mail.gmail.com> <5028e1a00703271133x4b40d77exd79f27da45c63bc9@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0703271142q54136ed3mfee2278ba6ea1955@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0703271210ue9e3207x873ffcbd06b385ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4609FF40.4010407@gmail.com> I like that thats a Great idea Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote: > On 3/28/07, Thomas Chung wrote: >> All, >> Verification Letter for Fedora Ambassadors is now available at: >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/VerificationLetter >> Please note this letter is used for Identifcation purpose only and it >> may not used for any other purpose. >> Regards, >> -- >> Thomas Chung >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung >> > > Thanks!! :D > > (wow that was fast) > From wilmer at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 28 19:00:35 2007 From: wilmer at fedoraproject.org (Wilmer Jaramillo M.) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:00:35 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Venezuela event report: InstallFest ISEIT Message-ID: <2b26c4260703281200i3f464432sf022a61a936b1fca@mail.gmail.com> Our first event made the day 24 of March in the build of the 24 ISEIT, with the presence of Ambassadors GuillermoGomez, in addition with the support of the community Fedora Venezuela and myself, approximating 20 machines was installed with Fedora 6, the favorite selection was Ubuntu, some people after of proving Fedora LiveCD to choose install FC6, the support of the Fedora community of Venezuela was overwhelming, we had the aid of several volunteers who outstandingly made installed reaching a satisfactory 99%. Everybody delivery a number considerable of LiveCDs and DVDs install, we made shirts with the logo of Fedora, also used a videobean to show Fedora/AIGLX/Beryl. The day of today we received from the Amb. Rodrigo Padula a total of 80DVDs and POP for its distribution during next event to take place day 28 of April FLISOL. I leave with some photos of event: http://s134.photobucket.com/albums/q96/tatadbb/Iseit-Fedora/?start=all -- Wilmer Jaramillo M. GPG Key Fingerprint = 0666 D0D3 24CE 8935 9C24 BBF1 87DD BEA2 A4B2 1E8A From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 28 19:06:27 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:06:27 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Venezuela event report: InstallFest ISEIT In-Reply-To: <2b26c4260703281200i3f464432sf022a61a936b1fca@mail.gmail.com> References: <2b26c4260703281200i3f464432sf022a61a936b1fca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0703281206j5281f32fk90a683cdb3c1821d@mail.gmail.com> On 3/28/07, Wilmer Jaramillo M. wrote: > Our first event made the day 24 of March in the build of the 24 ISEIT, > with the presence of Ambassadors GuillermoGomez, in addition with the > support of the community Fedora Venezuela and myself, approximating 20 > machines was installed with Fedora 6, the favorite selection was > Ubuntu, some people after of proving Fedora LiveCD to choose install > FC6, the support of the Fedora community of Venezuela was > overwhelming, we had the aid of several volunteers who outstandingly > made installed reaching a satisfactory 99%. Everybody delivery a > number considerable of LiveCDs and DVDs install, we made shirts with > the logo of Fedora, also used a videobean to show Fedora/AIGLX/Beryl. > > The day of today we received from the Amb. Rodrigo Padula a total of > 80DVDs and POP for its distribution during next event to take place > day 28 of April FLISOL. > > I leave with some photos of event: > http://s134.photobucket.com/albums/q96/tatadbb/Iseit-Fedora/?start=all > > -- > Wilmer Jaramillo M. > GPG Key Fingerprint = 0666 D0D3 24CE 8935 9C24 BBF1 87DD BEA2 A4B2 1E8A Thank you for your event report and photos! Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 28 22:08:10 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:08:10 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora News Project is Looking for Writers Message-ID: <369bce3b0703281508x65d74d9dsadb7cd77626cab11@mail.gmail.com> Currently Fedora News Project[1] is looking for two or more writers for up-coming-issue of Fedora Weekly News. Selected writers are expected to pick out the several major topics discussed in that week from following mailing lists and summarized them in a few paragraph.: * Development Section: fedora-devel-list, fedora-extras-list and fedora-maintainers-list * Documentation Section: fedora-docs-list * Events and Meetings: fedora-ambassadors-list and fedora-marketing-list These paragraphs will be edited by our editors and eventually published in our next issue of Fedora Weekly News. If you're interested in this project, please contact me as soon as possible. Regards, [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From guillermo.gomez at gmail.com Thu Mar 29 00:03:41 2007 From: guillermo.gomez at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Guillermo_G=F3mez_S=2E=22?=) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:03:41 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Venezuela event report: InstallFest ISEIT In-Reply-To: <2b26c4260703281200i3f464432sf022a61a936b1fca@mail.gmail.com> References: <2b26c4260703281200i3f464432sf022a61a936b1fca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <460B025D.8070300@gmail.com> Wilmer Jaramillo M. escribi?: > Our first event made the day 24 of March in the build of the 24 ISEIT, > with the presence of Ambassadors GuillermoGomez, in addition with the > support of the community Fedora Venezuela and myself, approximating 20 > machines was installed with Fedora 6, the favorite selection was > Ubuntu, some people after of proving Fedora LiveCD to choose install > FC6, the support of the Fedora community of Venezuela was > overwhelming, we had the aid of several volunteers who outstandingly > made installed reaching a satisfactory 99%. Everybody delivery a > number considerable of LiveCDs and DVDs install, we made shirts with > the logo of Fedora, also used a videobean to show Fedora/AIGLX/Beryl. > > The day of today we received from the Amb. Rodrigo Padula a total of > 80DVDs and POP for its distribution during next event to take place > day 28 of April FLISOL. > > I leave with some photos of event: > http://s134.photobucket.com/albums/q96/tatadbb/Iseit-Fedora/?start=all > Great success ! Cheers Fedora & Fedora Venezuela. Fedora was the star at ISEIT, no doubt about it ! Thanks Wilmer for reporting the event -- Gomix Guillermo G?mez S. cms fedora-ve http://www.fedora-ve.org blog http://blog.gomix.org soporte fedora-ve en irc.freenode.net, canal fedora-ve lista email fedora-ve at googlegroups.com Key fingerprint = 3143 8BDB 48A2 3241 E62A B743 D177 CAD7 3205 A464 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The another role of fedora ambassadors is also to bring feedback from the ground. regards, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 29 14:52:58 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:52:58 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Meeting 29 March 2007 and You In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0703290031u159eaa99j85a49ed5068377ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <13dbfe4f0703290031u159eaa99j85a49ed5068377ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703290752q6bb9f952vca1ca1a5e964eb5f@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, you can have the transcript here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2007-03-29?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fedora-ambassadors-2007-03-29.txt Presentees: #ChitleshGoorah #JeroenVanMeeuwen #MaximeCarron #XavierLamien #JohanCwiklinski #ArmelKermorvant #JamesBenWilliams #MohdIzharFirdaus #HanafiahMuhamad I've noticed that during the last 5 weeks, those ambassadors who have events signed to their name don't report their progress during the meetings. Indeed everyone is busy in their real life, however the Fedora Events' review is made for the next 3 months, i.e about 12 weeks. regards, chitlesh From mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 11:28:00 2007 From: mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com (Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 19:28:00 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Feedback/survey Form template Message-ID: Is theres any template for feedback form available somewhere for ambassadors use? I believe there are types of contents that are useful for FedoraProject and those that are not. A random survey without goals I dont think it'll be useful. -- ----------------------------------------------- regards Hikaru ----------------------------------------------- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com ----------------------------------------------- kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com ----------------------------------------------- From hanafiah at fedoraproject.org Sat Mar 31 16:19:49 2007 From: hanafiah at fedoraproject.org (Hanafiah Muhamad) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 00:19:49 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Feedback/survey Form template In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5028e1a00703310919x4286bbabndb93702ddb52a504@mail.gmail.com> Nice Suggestion... +1 On 3/31/07, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote: > > Is theres any template for feedback form available somewhere for > ambassadors use? > > I believe there are types of contents that are useful for > FedoraProject and those that are not. A random survey without goals I > dont think it'll be useful. > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------- > regards > Hikaru > ----------------------------------------------- > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > Amano Hikaru > ??? ???? ???? > Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS > ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester > mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com > ----------------------------------------------- > kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com > Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com > ----------------------------------------------- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- --- Mohd Hanafiah bin Muhamad Fedora Ambassadors for Malaysia http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HanafiahMuhamad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nayyares at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 17:07:21 2007 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 19:07:21 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Feedback/survey Form template In-Reply-To: <5028e1a00703310919x4286bbabndb93702ddb52a504@mail.gmail.com> References: <5028e1a00703310919x4286bbabndb93702ddb52a504@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30703311007i38469a9bkaa568609f0c709e3@mail.gmail.com> On 3/31/07, Hanafiah Muhamad wrote: > > Nice Suggestion... > > +1 > > > On 3/31/07, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail > wrote: > > > > Is theres any template for feedback form available somewhere for > > ambassadors use? > > can you explain what type of feedback form you need? I believe there are types of contents that are useful for > > FedoraProject and those that are not. A random survey without goals I > > dont think it'll be useful. > > > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------- > > regards > > Hikaru > > ----------------------------------------------- > > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > > Amano Hikaru > > ??? ???? ???? > > Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS > > ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester > > mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com > > ----------------------------------------------- > > kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com > > Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com > > ----------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > --- > Mohd Hanafiah bin Muhamad > Fedora Ambassadors for Malaysia > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HanafiahMuhamad > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 17:49:21 2007 From: mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com (Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 01:49:21 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Feedback/survey Form template In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30703311007i38469a9bkaa568609f0c709e3@mail.gmail.com> References: <5028e1a00703310919x4286bbabndb93702ddb52a504@mail.gmail.com> <8e1ee2a30703311007i38469a9bkaa568609f0c709e3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 4/1/07, Nayyar Ahmad wrote: > > On 3/31/07, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail < mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Is theres any template for feedback form available somewhere for > > > ambassadors use? > > > > can you explain what type of feedback form you need? > lets take for example .. new users .. they may have initial views on Fedora .. what they think is hard and what they think is easy in how Fedora handle stuff .. a person who have been using Fedora for some time or so may have different opinion about stuff .. problems they had experienced with fedora , things they love in fedora , what they think can be improved etc those who left fedora for other distros will have some sort of reason behind it... what causes them to leave, what they like in other distros and what they hate in Fedora .. Subjective questions are not easy to deal with .. and there need to be some sort of organized customer feedback for us to get the feedbacks and analyze it to find ways to improve Fedora .. we need a set or standardized questions for collecting feedbacks .. I dont know much what information considered useful to FedoraProject and what information are not ... perhaps someone more experienced can enlighten me ... -- ----------------------------------------------- regards Hikaru ----------------------------------------------- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com ----------------------------------------------- kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com ----------------------------------------------- From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 18:10:17 2007 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:10:17 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Feedback/survey Form template In-Reply-To: References: <5028e1a00703310919x4286bbabndb93702ddb52a504@mail.gmail.com> <8e1ee2a30703311007i38469a9bkaa568609f0c709e3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear, The idea is good..but having a very clear cut path often destructs the flexibility. According to me there IS some need to organised feedback but not in a too organised way. For example we can outline what we want to ask 'em.But having a printed form is pointless. What my experience says , talking to someone for a reasonable time often brings out feedback which are quite unexpected and which are seen from a entirely different point of view. I fear having a too much standardised question set is not going to help much.. We may discuss and gather a few questions which are to be asked. But at the end it should be upto that person who is collecting feedback. And I would like to object to the term *customer feedback*.. :-). I don't think those who are using Fedora are customers. User feedback is a more appropriate term. -- ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi From mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 19:01:22 2007 From: mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com (Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 03:01:22 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Feedback/survey Form template In-Reply-To: References: <5028e1a00703310919x4286bbabndb93702ddb52a504@mail.gmail.com> <8e1ee2a30703311007i38469a9bkaa568609f0c709e3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 4/1/07, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Dear, > > The idea is good..but having a very clear cut path often destructs the > flexibility. > According to me there IS some need to organised feedback but not in a > too organised way. > > For example we can outline what we want to ask 'em.But having a > printed form is pointless. yup .. the outline is what most important in all ... having a good outline is good enough for me :) > > What my experience says , talking to someone for a reasonable time > often brings out feedback which are quite unexpected and which are > seen from a entirely different point of view. > > I fear having a too much standardised question set is not going to help much.. > We may discuss and gather a few questions which are to be asked. But > at the end it should be upto that person who is collecting feedback. a standardized set of question would be useful in large scale feedback .. its easier to analyse lots of data if its standardized ... for small scale feedback, I agree that having a good outline on what to ask is more suitable ... what FedoraProject consider useful info and what not .. also, having a template/sample form for feedback doesnt hurt .. it helps to reduce unnecessary brain ache because of trying to find idea on what to put in a feedback form .. > And I would like to object to the term *customer feedback*.. :-). I > don't think those who are using Fedora are customers. User feedback > is a more appropriate term. oops .. i got too carried out with my business subject :P ... yup .. user feedback :D -- ----------------------------------------------- regards Hikaru ----------------------------------------------- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? 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