From mattdm at mattdm.org Thu Mar 1 00:53:13 2007
From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:53:13 -0500
Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Some Idea....please reply
In-Reply-To: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it>
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On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:35:01AM +0100, Giuseppe Pignataro wrote:
> 1) My first idea is to create a site like linuxcounter for people that use
> Fedora.
> I believe that this idea is good for two reason.
[...]
See:
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From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 06:05:23 2007
From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:35:23 +0530
Subject: [Ambassadors] release announcement idea [RFC]
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+1 here..a very good idea..
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From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 1 06:25:40 2007
From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 07:25:40 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Emeritus Ambassadors
In-Reply-To: <45E5F5AC.2050305@elfshadow.net>
References: <45E5B22D.5060306@fedoraproject.org>
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I retire my proposal because, as many people told me, we have to focus
on F7 release; so, please, after this message, don't reply to this topic
that will be virtually closed (actually there aren't moderation tool to
make this possible only human will :) ).
== Fedora Emeritus Ambassadors discussion, for now, is suspended and, if
someone is interested it will reopen after the F7 release. ==
Thanks for your collaboration
Francesco Ugolini
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From susmit.shannigrahi at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 06:04:48 2007
From: susmit.shannigrahi at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:34:48 +0530
Subject: [Ambassadors] release announcement idea [RFC]
In-Reply-To: <1172691235.3301.13.camel@localhost.localdomain>
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+1 here..a very good idea..
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From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 1 10:14:39 2007
From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:14:39 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Emeritus Ambassadors
In-Reply-To: <45E601E1.2090700@nobugconsulting.ro>
References: <45E5B22D.5060306@fedoraproject.org>
<13dbfe4f0702281007y493c60ffh8c148fc570bf744f@mail.gmail.com>
<45E601E1.2090700@nobugconsulting.ro>
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On 2/28/07, lonely wolf wrote:
> make them public and I'll do my best for the Romanian translation.
Here it is
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ChitleshGoorah?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=enhance_chit.odp
However don't start translating it now,
I'll update it first for F7 and removed useless bits.
I'll inform on the list once done.
Chitlesh
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From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 1 10:29:09 2007
From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:29:09 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Some Idea....please reply
In-Reply-To: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it>
References: <200702282335.l1SNZ2vl002528@m-02.th.seeweb.it>
Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703010229oc89ac4p515f0668308d626f@mail.gmail.com>
On 3/1/07, Giuseppe Pignataro wrote:
> 1) My first idea is to create a site like linuxcounter for people that use
> Fedora.
We have started http://www.frappr.com/fedora in the past. Perhaps we
should be focusing on that effort.
I see it's an idea from ubuntu :) http://ubuntucounter.org/
Have a look at the post (+ replies) : "the danger of becoming a cargo cult"
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2007-February/msg00177.html
Chitlesh
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From fhornain at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 11:17:30 2007
From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:17:30 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM 07
Message-ID: <3161376e0703010317r7f255154t33cb266757ed032b@mail.gmail.com>
De
http://www.simline.de/fosdem
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From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 1 11:33:51 2007
From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:33:51 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM 07
In-Reply-To: <3161376e0703010317r7f255154t33cb266757ed032b@mail.gmail.com>
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On 3/1/07, Frederic Hornain wrote:
> http://www.simline.de/fosdem
Hello,
thanks to J?rgSimon for those pictures :)
I hope your daughter is doing well now, since to what I heard you
couldn't come because she was sick.
However, we managed without you :) we were way to many at the booth,
but at the same time we got many compliments at the booth from the
visitors. I need to write my report so that perhaps you might see what
happened :)
Chitlesh
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From fhornain at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 11:34:34 2007
From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:34:34 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM 07 Feed Back
Message-ID: <3161376e0703010334m79deb0ddo91b321bc1dab012c@mail.gmail.com>
Dear *,
First of all, sorry for the wrong manipulation !
Then I would like to excuse myself to have missed at the last minute this
fabulous event this year but as I told to Chitlesh last friday
unfortunatly my daughter was very ill and I could not be there. I had to
take care of her.
Sorry again. :(
Nonetheless, I have seen that Fedora presence was successfull.
I looked at pictures at http://www.simline.de/fosdem and I recognized some
ambassadors that I met previouly.
I have also seen that OLPC laptop was at the Fedora Booth as planned.
However, I would be very interesting by your fresh feed back in order to
improve this event next year.
I know already that we would have to increase the size of the booth.
Sorry for that but I did not know at the reservation time that as much as
Fedora people came.
So,
Did you have any problems with the Dev'room ?
Did you have any problem with the Hardware Insurance ?
Do you think that Red Hat and Fedora would have a common booth or a separate
booth close each other ?
What kind of improvment would you suggest for next year ?
What do you think about an annual FUDCON at FOSDEM for EMEA Fedora users ?
And so on and so for ....
Thanks in advance for you answers.
BR
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From agk at redhat.com Thu Mar 1 16:47:56 2007
From: agk at redhat.com (Alasdair G Kergon)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:47:56 +0000
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Emeritus Ambassadors
In-Reply-To: <45E5B22D.5060306@fedoraproject.org>
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On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:47:41PM +0100, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
> I've a small proposal that consist in the creation of a Fedora Emeritus
> Ambassador
> What do you think?
A good idea, but somewhat premature for the people listed?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emeritus
The term is used when a person of importance in a given profession
retires, so that his or her former rank can still be used in his or her
^^^^^^^
title. This is particularly useful when establishing the authority a
person might have to comment, lecture or write on a particular subject.
Alasdair
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From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Thu Mar 1 18:31:18 2007
From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 00:31:18 +0600
Subject: [Ambassadors] release announcement idea [RFC]
In-Reply-To: <1172665218.4651.289.camel@erato.phig.org>
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+1
last month celebrated the "International mother language day"
On 28/02/07, Karsten Wade wrote:
>
> Last release we had an idea that I'm proposing we try for Fedora 7. For
> reasons that should be obvious as you read, the Ambassadors seem to be a
> natural group to do this. Perhaps in coordination/collaboration with
> Fedora Translation/L10n contributors?
>
> The basic idea is to distribute to countries/regions a list of "talking
> points". Talking points are specific items we want to see covered in
> any release announcement. Then each region/language can choose to i)
> form a small team, and ii) collaborate to write a truly localized
> release announcement.
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/ReleaseAnnouncements#Process
>
> Background
> ----------
>
> In the past, the announcement introduction has been written in English
> in a semi-humorous way. To understand it, you had to know specific
> cultural references. This made them fairly impossible to translate (or
> transliterate). Or even understand, period.
>
> This new method would rely entirely upon the local groups to collaborate
> on an announcement, then distribute it within their region as a formal
> Fedora release announcement. One place to start is fedora-announce.
>
> How many different language announcements can we get on fedora-announce
> for Fedora 7?
>
> One concern that is that a release announcement is a very big chance to
> start misinformation about Fedora. For example, an announcement may be
> written in a language not read by most of the Fedora leadership, and the
> authors accidentally choose terms or phrasing that reflect negatively on
> Fedora. The quality of the writing or grammar also reflects on Fedora.
>
> To lower this risk, it seems like a good idea to have the release
> announcement draft due for review by the final test (usually test3,
> occasionally test4). Every draft announcement then needs an independent
> review by a reader of that language.
>
> I'm sure that this has been done informally in various countries. This
> idea is to formalize the process, recognize the people involved with the
> honor of speaking LOUDLY for Fedora, and make an ever bigger impact with
> this next release.
>
> - Karsten
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From kwade at redhat.com Thu Mar 1 18:55:52 2007
From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade)
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:55:52 -0800
Subject: [Ambassadors] The end of cross-posting
Message-ID: <1172775352.4651.453.camel@erato.phig.org>
There is a consensus that we have separate topics for
fedora-ambassadors-list and fedora-marketing-list.
To keep messages on-topic, we need to stop cross-posting to the two
lists. There is almost no topic that can be on both lists at the same
time.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PostIsOffTopic#fedora-ambassadors-list
If a post does not match the topic as defined there, it is off topic and
needs to be posted somewhere else.
I wanted to call this out in particular so people understand why their
post receives a link to PostIsOffTopic. :)
- Karsten
(Non-cross-posted message with a different Subject but similar
topic/wording has been posted to the marketing list)
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From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 1 18:58:52 2007
From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:58:52 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] The end of cross-posting
In-Reply-To: <1172775352.4651.453.camel@erato.phig.org>
References: <1172775352.4651.453.camel@erato.phig.org>
Message-ID: <45E7226C.8090102@fedoraproject.org>
Karsten Wade ha scritto:
> There is a consensus that we have separate topics for
> fedora-ambassadors-list and fedora-marketing-list.
>
> To keep messages on-topic, we need to stop cross-posting to the two
> lists. There is almost no topic that can be on both lists at the same
> time.
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PostIsOffTopic#fedora-ambassadors-list
>
> If a post does not match the topic as defined there, it is off topic and
> needs to be posted somewhere else.
>
> I wanted to call this out in particular so people understand why their
> post receives a link to PostIsOffTopic. :)
>
> - Karsten
> (Non-cross-posted message with a different Subject but similar
> topic/wording has been posted to the marketing list)
>
>
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I strongly agree. I have a question: who decide it?
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From kwade at redhat.com Thu Mar 1 20:09:56 2007
From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade)
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:09:56 -0800
Subject: [Ambassadors] The end of cross-posting
In-Reply-To: <45E7226C.8090102@fedoraproject.org>
References: <1172775352.4651.453.camel@erato.phig.org>
<45E7226C.8090102@fedoraproject.org>
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On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 19:58 +0100, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
> I strongly agree. I have a question: who decide it?
Who decided that we have separate topics for the two lists? I thought
that was evident from the discussion, and it was specifically mentioned
in Patrick's email to this list.
As for the request to end cross-posting, it is more of a community
decision. Fedora follows general FLOSS practices, which frown upon
cross-posting. Similar with PostIsOffTopic, it is a general practice to
ask people to post to the appropriate location. If we answer the
off-topic questions, it encourages people to post off-topic again.
- Karsten
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From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 1 20:28:02 2007
From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:28:02 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] The end of cross-posting
In-Reply-To: <1172779796.4651.485.camel@erato.phig.org>
References: <1172775352.4651.453.camel@erato.phig.org> <45E7226C.8090102@fedoraproject.org>
<1172779796.4651.485.camel@erato.phig.org>
Message-ID: <45E73752.1070306@fedoraproject.org>
Karsten Wade ha scritto:
> On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 19:58 +0100, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
>
>> I strongly agree. I have a question: who decide it?
>
> Who decided that we have separate topics for the two lists? I thought
> that was evident from the discussion, and it was specifically mentioned
> in Patrick's email to this list.
>
> As for the request to end cross-posting, it is more of a community
> decision. Fedora follows general FLOSS practices, which frown upon
> cross-posting. Similar with PostIsOffTopic, it is a general practice to
> ask people to post to the appropriate location. If we answer the
> off-topic questions, it encourages people to post off-topic again.
>
> - Karsten
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Great, sorry but i miss a piece of the discussion. Sorry.
Thanks very much.
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From ncorrare at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 1 21:03:59 2007
From: ncorrare at fedoraproject.org (Nicolas Antonio Corrarello)
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:03:59 -0300
Subject: [Ambassadors] OLPC
In-Reply-To: <45E6CDC2.70504@glezos.com>
References: <45E685CA.4060304@fedoraproject.org> <45E6CDC2.70504@glezos.com>
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From marek at mahut.be Thu Mar 1 21:46:42 2007
From: marek at mahut.be (Marek Mahut)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:46:42 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM 07
In-Reply-To: <3161376e0703010317r7f255154t33cb266757ed032b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3161376e0703010317r7f255154t33cb266757ed032b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070301214642.GA29535@darken>
Hello Frederic,
Thank you for these photos - and I hope that your dauther is going better.
I saw other people take photos, can you upload them too ? Thank for advance!
/Marek.
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:17:30PM +0100, Frederic Hornain wrote:
> De
>
>
> http://www.simline.de/fosdem
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From marek at mahut.be Thu Mar 1 21:58:45 2007
From: marek at mahut.be (Marek Mahut)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:58:45 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM 07 Feed Back
In-Reply-To: <3161376e0703010334m79deb0ddo91b321bc1dab012c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3161376e0703010334m79deb0ddo91b321bc1dab012c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070301215845.GB29535@darken>
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:34:34PM +0100, Frederic Hornain wrote:
> Dear *,
>
> First of all, sorry for the wrong manipulation !
>
> Then I would like to excuse myself to have missed at the last minute this
> fabulous event this year but as I told to Chitlesh last friday
> unfortunatly my daughter was very ill and I could not be there. I had to
> take care of her.
> Sorry again. :(
Hello Frederic again - I think that everybody understood it. We hope that your dauther is going well now.
>
> Nonetheless, I have seen that Fedora presence was successfull.
> I looked at pictures at http://www.simline.de/fosdem and I recognized some
> ambassadors that I met previouly.
>
> I have also seen that OLPC laptop was at the Fedora Booth as planned.
>
> However, I would be very interesting by your fresh feed back in order to
> improve this event next year.
> I know already that we would have to increase the size of the booth.
> Sorry for that but I did not know at the reservation time that as much as
> Fedora people came.
>From my side, I think that the booth has been great. Even is it was not the same at LinuxTag (as we spoken with Joerg).
>
> So,
> Did you have any problems with the Dev'room ?
I don't think so - imho. Anyone got any problems ?
> Did you have any problem with the Hardware Insurance ?
I didn't use it :)
> Do you think that Red Hat and Fedora would have a common booth or a separate
> booth close each other ?
I don't know if Red Hat will be there next year, but I hope that it will be. And either I don't know what Max is thinking about this - because I share his opinion that Fedora should show that it's maitened by community from most part and not from Red Hat (more after merge of core and extras repo's) - and I don't want to say that Red Hat is not doing a good job from their side. (again it's my humnle opinion).
> What kind of improvment would you suggest for next year ?
I was surprised that the network was working :P Just suggestion, maybe it's good idea to change the place of booth, as it can be different every year.
> What do you think about an annual FUDCON at FOSDEM for EMEA Fedora users ?
> And so on and so for ....
>From my side, this FOSDEM was best of FOSDEMs. Thanks guys !!!
> Thanks in advance for you answers.
>
> BR
> Fred
/Marek.
From marek at mahut.be Thu Mar 1 22:14:13 2007
From: marek at mahut.be (Marek Mahut)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:14:13 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Emeritus Ambassadors
In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0703010214m6448d5c2p47b71d43aa33ba24@mail.gmail.com>
References: <45E5B22D.5060306@fedoraproject.org>
<13dbfe4f0702281007y493c60ffh8c148fc570bf744f@mail.gmail.com>
<45E601E1.2090700@nobugconsulting.ro>
<13dbfe4f0703010214m6448d5c2p47b71d43aa33ba24@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070301221413.GC29535@darken>
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:14:39AM +0100, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
> On 2/28/07, lonely wolf wrote:
> >make them public and I'll do my best for the Romanian translation.
>
> Here it is
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ChitleshGoorah?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=enhance_chit.odp
>
> However don't start translating it now,
> I'll update it first for F7 and removed useless bits.
> I'll inform on the list once done.
Hello Chitlesh,
Your presentation is great ! Do you think that I can use some of your slide to create my presentation about Fedora in Slovak for linux at fest that will take place in Bratislava on 17th March ?
> Chitlesh
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thanks
/Marek.>
From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 2 01:09:33 2007
From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:09:33 -0800
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards
Message-ID: <369bce3b0703011709q3bd649deofd6ade7bff305482@mail.gmail.com>
RE: Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards
Date: March 1st, 2007
It is my pleasure to announce following Ambassadors will receive
Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards!
* ChitleshGoorah
* GeroldKassube
* ThomasCanniot
* JoergSimon
* FrancescoUgolini
On behalf of Fedora Ambassadors Project, thank you for your hard work
and congratulations!
Best Regards,
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Thomas Chung
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung
From wcervini at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 02:57:45 2007
From: wcervini at gmail.com (Walter Cervini)
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:57:45 -0400
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards
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Congratulations, boys.
This is an example, for other comunity, to promote linux around the
world, and prestige for the Fedora Team.
El jue, 01-03-2007 a las 17:09 -0800, Thomas Chung escribi?:
> RE: Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards
>
> Date: March 1st, 2007
>
> It is my pleasure to announce following Ambassadors will receive
> Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards!
>
> * ChitleshGoorah
> * GeroldKassube
> * ThomasCanniot
> * JoergSimon
> * FrancescoUgolini
>
> On behalf of Fedora Ambassadors Project, thank you for your hard work
> and congratulations!
>
> Best Regards,
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wcervini at gmail.com
Linux User Since 1990
Linux Counter 353289
Fedora Ambassador Venezuela
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From santosh at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 2 04:28:50 2007
From: santosh at fedoraproject.org (Santosh Kumar)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:58:50 +0530
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards
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Best wishes to the performers!! Congratulations.....
Well, you guys just tempt me to work, i will be returning in a full swing
after my Graduation (June 2007). I sincerely apologize for not being that
real active.
Regards
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From aks at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 2 06:06:52 2007
From: aks at fedoraproject.org (Abhishek Singh)
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:51:52 +0545
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards
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Congrats guys!!
Regards
Abhishek Singh
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 17:09 -0800, Thomas Chung wrote:
> RE: Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards
>
> Date: March 1st, 2007
>
> It is my pleasure to announce following Ambassadors will receive
> Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards!
>
> * ChitleshGoorah
> * GeroldKassube
> * ThomasCanniot
> * JoergSimon
> * FrancescoUgolini
>
> On behalf of Fedora Ambassadors Project, thank you for your hard work
> and congratulations!
>
> Best Regards,
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From hernan.pachas at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 04:29:22 2007
From: hernan.pachas at gmail.com (Hernan Pachas)
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:29:22 -0500
Subject: [Ambassadors] OLPC
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Hola Nicolas
Por favor, el tema de OLPC me interesa, tendr?s mayor informaci?n,
presentaciones. y como poder ver el equipo OLPC en acci?n.
Desde ya, muchas gracias.
Saludos,
---HernanPachas
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From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Fri Mar 2 13:07:37 2007
From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira)
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:07:37 -0300
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards
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Congratulations guys!!
ASS: Rodrigo Padula
Brazil
Walter Cervini escreveu:
> Congratulations, boys.
> This is an example, for other comunity, to promote linux around the
> world, and prestige for the Fedora Team.
>
>
>
> El jue, 01-03-2007 a las 17:09 -0800, Thomas Chung escribi?:
>> RE: Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards
>>
>> Date: March 1st, 2007
>>
>> It is my pleasure to announce following Ambassadors will receive
>> Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards!
>>
>> * ChitleshGoorah
>> * GeroldKassube
>> * ThomasCanniot
>> * JoergSimon
>> * FrancescoUgolini
>>
>> On behalf of Fedora Ambassadors Project, thank you for your hard work
>> and congratulations!
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> --
>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
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From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Fri Mar 2 13:19:05 2007
From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot)
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:19:05 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fwd: Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards
In-Reply-To: <1172816277.3451.8.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local>
References: <369bce3b0703011709q3bd649deofd6ade7bff305482@mail.gmail.com>
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Le vendredi 02 mars 2007 ? 07:17 +0100, Gerold Kassube a ?crit :
> it's again a great pleasure and honor for me to be the third time
> awarded (out of three) ...
>
>
> on the other hand it hurts me to see, that there is no Ambassador
> outside Europe which is awarded :-(
>
> Dear Max, dear Thomas ...
>
> PLEASE be so kind and have a look what happens with the other regions;
> it cann't be or better; I cann't believe that we in EMEA are the active
> part of the Ambassador and the "Rest of the world" did nothing ....
> Me for myself outgoing from my perspective cann't nominate an Ambassador
> from India or the U.S. because unfortunately I don't know them (well)
> and know what these guys are doing. So I nominate exclusive EMEA
> Ambassadors who I know and also know what he's doing or has done ...
>
You're entirely right.
I don't know how a reward must be seen. From my point of you, rewards
for "good" work or to be honest (?), for "excessive buzzing" does not
motivate myself more than I am already. I don't think a day about being
rewarded for being an ambassador, and I would be very pleased to give my
reward to someone for which it would be useful, i.e. motivating. If it
can help / encourage people to spread the word about fedora in their
countries, then I would be very pleased to give it to any body in
Russia, India, Australia, Japan, China or any other country in these
areas.
I think this is definitely something we have to think about.
ps: however, if you've got a job at RH, I would be very pleased to be
hired :D
Thomas Canniot
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From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Mar 2 14:58:11 2007
From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:58:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM 07 Feed Back
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Most of my reports from FOSDEM are in my blog:
http://spevack.livejournal.com
> Did you have any problems with the Dev'room ?
No, this was great.
> Did you have any problem with the Hardware Insurance ?
No, I hope no one needed it!
> Do you think that Red Hat and Fedora would have a common booth or a
> separate booth close each other ?
"Red Hat" didn't have a booth at all this past year, and even if it did, I
think it's important to have them separate, because the corporate and
community sides of Red Hat are quite different. That's why we have a
separate Fedora brand to begin with.
> What do you think about an annual FUDCON at FOSDEM for EMEA Fedora users
> ? And so on and so for ....
I think that what we did this year was very good. Treating our series of
talks in the DevRoom as sort of a mini FUDCon worked well. I was very
happy with the event.
--Max
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From jmbabich at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 07:51:14 2007
From: jmbabich at gmail.com (John Babich)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:51:14 +0300
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards
In-Reply-To: <1172815612.3603.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
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Congratulations to all.
John Babich
From jeremy at linuxwiz.net Fri Mar 2 17:20:04 2007
From: jeremy at linuxwiz.net (Gaddis, Jeremy L.)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:20:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Ambassadors] IU LinuxFest - 11-Apr-2007 - clarification, please.
Message-ID:
Good {morning|afternoon|evening} list,
Please forgive what may be my ignorance as I have just recently become
involved with the Fedora Project, am still trying to take everything
in, and am sure there are things I don't yet completely understand.
IU LinuxFest[1] is an annual, one-day event organized by the Unix
Systems Support Group[2] at Indiana University[3] to draw attention to
Linux from students, faculty, staff, and the general public. Though
not on behalf on the Fedora Project, I have attended this annual event
for the last several years.
Seeing as how I recently became involved in the Fedora Project as an
Ambassador, I thought this would be an excellent first opportunity to
help promote Fedora. I know the organizers of this event and have
been reserved booth space for a Fedora display.
"How to be an Ambassador"[4] states, "For the first 30 days, the
status of a newbie Ambassador will be 'on probation', during which
time they have a chance to prove themselves to the group by
contributing to the project (see Ideas below)". Under Ideas, one
thing listed is "Sign up Fedora Project for regional events", which I
have now done.
Unfortunately, the Material Request Form[5] states, "Ambassadors must
also complete at[sic] thirty-day probation period before they can
request new merchandise, ...".
Last October, I once again attended the Ohio LinuxFest in Columbus,
Ohio, and witnessed a Fedora booth there (manned by Jeffrey Tadlock,
perhaps?). It was well set-up and looked very nice with the Fedora
banners and such (yes, I bought a bumper sticker and t-shirt!).
Ideally, I would like to be able to obtain a banner to set up at the
booth. I understand that t-shirts are on short supply and probably
out of the question, but that's not an issue. I can burn a few
hundred Fedora DVDs and eat the cost myself, that's not an issue
either.
Since I am still under the umbrella of the 30-day probationary period,
however, am I correct in my understanding that I cannot request items
such as a banner for temporary usage at a Linux event and that I am
pretty much left up to my own resources to handle this?
Any clarification is appreciated.
[1] http://tinyurl.com/2voxb4
[2] http://www.ussg.indiana.edu/
[3] http://www.indiana.edu/
[4] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/HowTo
[5] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff
Thanks,
-j
--
Jeremy L. Gaddis, MCP, GCWN jeremy at linuxwiz.net
LinuxWiz Consulting http://linuxwiz.net
From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 07:05:40 2007
From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:05:40 +0600
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards
In-Reply-To: <1172815612.3603.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
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???????? ?????? (in bangla, Congrats all)
On 02/03/07, Abhishek Singh wrote:
>
> Congrats guys!!
>
> Regards
> Abhishek Singh
> On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 17:09 -0800, Thomas Chung wrote:
> > RE: Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards
> >
> > Date: March 1st, 2007
> >
> > It is my pleasure to announce following Ambassadors will receive
> > Fedora Ambassadors Recognition Awards!
> >
> > * ChitleshGoorah
> > * GeroldKassube
> > * ThomasCanniot
> > * JoergSimon
> > * FrancescoUgolini
> >
> > On behalf of Fedora Ambassadors Project, thank you for your hard work
> > and congratulations!
> >
> > Best Regards,
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
>
>
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??? ?????
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From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 2 20:25:16 2007
From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:25:16 -0800
Subject: [Ambassadors] IU LinuxFest - 11-Apr-2007 - clarification, please.
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <369bce3b0703021225x5a48c7bbs52d6ce7cb233f4e9@mail.gmail.com>
On 3/2/07, Gaddis, Jeremy L. wrote:
> Good {morning|afternoon|evening} list,
>
> Please forgive what may be my ignorance as I have just recently become
> involved with the Fedora Project, am still trying to take everything
> in, and am sure there are things I don't yet completely understand.
>
> IU LinuxFest[1] is an annual, one-day event organized by the Unix
> Systems Support Group[2] at Indiana University[3] to draw attention to
> Linux from students, faculty, staff, and the general public. Though
> not on behalf on the Fedora Project, I have attended this annual event
> for the last several years.
>
> Seeing as how I recently became involved in the Fedora Project as an
> Ambassador, I thought this would be an excellent first opportunity to
> help promote Fedora. I know the organizers of this event and have
> been reserved booth space for a Fedora display.
>
> "How to be an Ambassador"[4] states, "For the first 30 days, the
> status of a newbie Ambassador will be 'on probation', during which
> time they have a chance to prove themselves to the group by
> contributing to the project (see Ideas below)". Under Ideas, one
> thing listed is "Sign up Fedora Project for regional events", which I
> have now done.
>
> Unfortunately, the Material Request Form[5] states, "Ambassadors must
> also complete at[sic] thirty-day probation period before they can
> request new merchandise, ...".
>
> Last October, I once again attended the Ohio LinuxFest in Columbus,
> Ohio, and witnessed a Fedora booth there (manned by Jeffrey Tadlock,
> perhaps?). It was well set-up and looked very nice with the Fedora
> banners and such (yes, I bought a bumper sticker and t-shirt!).
>
> Ideally, I would like to be able to obtain a banner to set up at the
> booth. I understand that t-shirts are on short supply and probably
> out of the question, but that's not an issue. I can burn a few
> hundred Fedora DVDs and eat the cost myself, that's not an issue
> either.
>
> Since I am still under the umbrella of the 30-day probationary period,
> however, am I correct in my understanding that I cannot request items
> such as a banner for temporary usage at a Linux event and that I am
> pretty much left up to my own resources to handle this?
>
> Any clarification is appreciated.
>
> [1] http://tinyurl.com/2voxb4
> [2] http://www.ussg.indiana.edu/
> [3] http://www.indiana.edu/
> [4] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/HowTo
> [5] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff
>
> Thanks,
> -j
>
> --
> Jeremy L. Gaddis, MCP, GCWN jeremy at linuxwiz.net
> LinuxWiz Consulting http://linuxwiz.net
Hi Jeremy,
Don't concern too much about "30-day probation". This is when you're
getting familiar with Fedora Project and Ambassadors Project.
Please submit your media request for your event via Ambassadors Media
Request Form.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff
I'll ask Max if we can afford to create a banner for you.
Regards,
--
Thomas Chung
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung
From jeremy at linuxwiz.net Fri Mar 2 22:45:00 2007
From: jeremy at linuxwiz.net (Gaddis, Jeremy L.)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:45:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Ambassadors] IU LinuxFest - 11-Apr-2007 - clarification, please.
In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703021225x5a48c7bbs52d6ce7cb233f4e9@mail.gmail.com>
References:
<369bce3b0703021225x5a48c7bbs52d6ce7cb233f4e9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID:
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Thomas Chung wrote:
>> Since I am still under the umbrella of the 30-day probationary period,
>> however, am I correct in my understanding that I cannot request items
>> such as a banner for temporary usage at a Linux event and that I am
>> pretty much left up to my own resources to handle this?
>
> Don't concern too much about "30-day probation". This is when you're
> getting familiar with Fedora Project and Ambassadors Project.
> Please submit your media request for your event via Ambassadors Media
> Request Form.
I will do that, thanks.
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff
> I'll ask Max if we can afford to create a banner for you.
If you have to purchase one or have one made, I'd say don't worry
about it too much. I (perhaps wrongly) assumed that there were at
least a few of these "stashed" somewhere and that one could be shipped
out to me for use at the event.
Thanks for the clarification, Thomas.
-j
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LinuxWiz Consulting http://linuxwiz.net
From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Sat Mar 3 00:30:48 2007
From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira)
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:30:48 -0300
Subject: [Ambassadors] Linux+ Magazine
Message-ID: <45E8C1B8.4030709@projetofedora.org>
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From linux at elfshadow.net Sat Mar 3 02:19:02 2007
From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock)
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:19:02 -0500
Subject: [Ambassadors] IU LinuxFest - 11-Apr-2007 - clarification, please.
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <45E8DB16.5050100@elfshadow.net>
Gaddis, Jeremy L. wrote:
> Last October, I once again attended the Ohio LinuxFest in Columbus,
> Ohio, and witnessed a Fedora booth there (manned by Jeffrey Tadlock,
> perhaps?). It was well set-up and looked very nice with the Fedora
> banners and such (yes, I bought a bumper sticker and t-shirt!).
Yes, that was me. I remember meeting you at the booth.
> If you have to purchase one or have one made, I'd say don't worry
> about it too much.
The banner I had at Ohio Linux Fest was one that Max shipped to me for
the event and then I shipped back to him. Hopefully they will be able
to hook you up with that one without the need to make a new one.
I can help you with some of the Fedora Stickers. We had some left from
the Ohio Linux Fest. If you want to email me off-list your snail mail
address I can ship some out next week sometime.
Good to see you off to a running start! Good luck with your event!
--Jeffrey
From linux at elfshadow.net Sat Mar 3 03:56:24 2007
From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock)
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:56:24 -0500
Subject: [Ambassadors] Max's Blog Post re: Ambassadors Discussion
In-Reply-To: <1172482025.3525.8.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local>
References: <45E1D317.1070801@elfshadow.net>
<1172482025.3525.8.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local>
Message-ID: <45E8F1E8.5000508@elfshadow.net>
Gerold Kassube wrote:
> Why not set up an wiki-page and collect what other Ambassadors,
> attendees of booth think what is needed and usefull?!
I have setup a wiki page [1] for the Event Box proposal. This project
is only early in the proposal stage, but I encourage other Ambassadors
to add items to the page or comment on the list about the proposal.
--Jeffrey
[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox
From gdk at redhat.com Sat Mar 3 04:11:45 2007
From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg)
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 23:11:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Ambassadors] Max's Blog Post re: Ambassadors Discussion
In-Reply-To: <45E8F1E8.5000508@elfshadow.net>
References: <45E1D317.1070801@elfshadow.net>
<1172482025.3525.8.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local>
<45E8F1E8.5000508@elfshadow.net>
Message-ID:
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Jeffrey Tadlock wrote:
> Gerold Kassube wrote:
>> Why not set up an wiki-page and collect what other Ambassadors,
>> attendees of booth think what is needed and usefull?!
>
> I have setup a wiki page [1] for the Event Box proposal. This project
> is only early in the proposal stage, but I encourage other Ambassadors
> to add items to the page or comment on the list about the proposal.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that we could probably fund the
creation of this event box. The biggest open questions have to do with
customs fees and such like that -- but if it's one event box, I think we
could manage this.
We'll also need an efficient handoff mechanism, but I think the wiki could
accomplish that nicely.
--g
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Be an Ambassador || http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors
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From jeremy at linuxwiz.net Sat Mar 3 18:26:13 2007
From: jeremy at linuxwiz.net (Gaddis, Jeremy L.)
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:26:13 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Ambassadors] IU LinuxFest - 11-Apr-2007 - clarification, please.
In-Reply-To: <45E8DB16.5050100@elfshadow.net>
References:
<45E8DB16.5050100@elfshadow.net>
Message-ID:
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Jeffrey Tadlock wrote:
> The banner I had at Ohio Linux Fest was one that Max shipped to me for
> the event and then I shipped back to him. Hopefully they will be able
> to hook you up with that one without the need to make a new one.
That's what I was hoping as well. If Max can get one to me, I'll take
care of getting it back post-event.
> I can help you with some of the Fedora Stickers. We had some left from
> the Ohio Linux Fest. If you want to email me off-list your snail mail
> address I can ship some out next week sometime.
That would be awesome. Separate e-mail coming your way...
Max, if you have any more of those Fedora flip-flops, I'd be happy to
take some of those off your hands as well. This event is at a
University, and the students are always interested in any swag. =)
FWIW, IU, as well as the .edu I work for, both have campus-wide RHEL
subscriptions. =)
> Good to see you off to a running start! Good luck with your event!
Thanks!
-j
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From nihedmm at gmail.com Sat Mar 3 19:41:50 2007
From: nihedmm at gmail.com (nihed mbarek)
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:41:50 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Report of the event "Free software and proprietary
software, a choice for complementarity"
Message-ID: <5bddd8fd0703031141t56ebfd43h50b8e55d91afb8ec@mail.gmail.com>
In February 28 took place an event in the technological pole El Ghazela,
Tunisia, called "Free software and proprietary software, a choice for
complementarity".
It was an opportunity for me and a friend to present The Fedora Project.
Many persons belonging to different fields found out how to create a local
Fedora repository and to make LAMP architecture work.
We used Fedora France banner with some modifications:
http://nihedmbarek.googlepages.com/affiche-fedora.png
Some pictures of the event:
http://infoplusplus.blogspot.com/2007/03/image-du-27-fev-2007.html
--
M'BAREK Med Nihed,
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From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung)
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:52:07 -0800
Subject: [Ambassadors] Report of the event "Free software and proprietary
software, a choice for complementarity"
In-Reply-To: <5bddd8fd0703031141t56ebfd43h50b8e55d91afb8ec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5bddd8fd0703031141t56ebfd43h50b8e55d91afb8ec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <369bce3b0703032052q191b3300v30194e5536970bbf@mail.gmail.com>
On 3/3/07, nihed mbarek wrote:
> In February 28 took place an event in the technological pole El Ghazela,
> Tunisia, called "Free software and proprietary software, a choice for
> complementarity".
> It was an opportunity for me and a friend to present The Fedora Project.
> Many persons belonging to different fields found out how to create a local
> Fedora repository and to make LAMP architecture work.
> We used Fedora France banner with some modifications:
> http://nihedmbarek.googlepages.com/affiche-fedora.png
> Some pictures of the event:
> http://infoplusplus.blogspot.com/2007/03/image-du-27-fev-2007.html
>
> --
> M'BAREK Med Nihed,
> Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa
Thank you for the report.
It seem the event was not been entered in our FedoraEvents page.
I'll go ahread add in PastEvents page for the record.
Regards,
--
Thomas Chung
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung
From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Sun Mar 4 10:26:31 2007
From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot)
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 11:26:31 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1930
Message-ID: <1173003991.3423.10.camel@localhost.localdomain>
This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and
_every_ interested people.
2007-03-04 / 19:30 UTC
IRC: freenode
#fedora-mktg-fr
Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones,
qui aura lieu ce dimanche (04 mars) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC
(freenode) #fedora-mktg-fr .
Thomas
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From nihedmm at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 06:54:19 2007
From: nihedmm at gmail.com (nihed mbarek)
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 07:54:19 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Report of the event "Free software and proprietary
software, a choice for complementarity"
In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703032052q191b3300v30194e5536970bbf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5bddd8fd0703031141t56ebfd43h50b8e55d91afb8ec@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi
in the future, i will add the list of event that i will participate.
thxs to add this event in last event.
and good job for all ambassadors
2007/3/4, Thomas Chung :
>
> On 3/3/07, nihed mbarek wrote:
> > In February 28 took place an event in the technological pole El Ghazela,
> > Tunisia, called "Free software and proprietary software, a choice for
> > complementarity".
> > It was an opportunity for me and a friend to present The Fedora Project.
> > Many persons belonging to different fields found out how to create a
> local
> > Fedora repository and to make LAMP architecture work.
> > We used Fedora France banner with some modifications:
> > http://nihedmbarek.googlepages.com/affiche-fedora.png
> > Some pictures of the event:
> > http://infoplusplus.blogspot.com/2007/03/image-du-27-fev-2007.html
> >
> > --
> > M'BAREK Med Nihed,
> > Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa
>
> Thank you for the report.
> It seem the event was not been entered in our FedoraEvents page.
> I'll go ahread add in PastEvents page for the record.
> Regards,
> --
> Thomas Chung
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung
>
> --
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> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
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>
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From nihedmm at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 20:36:45 2007
From: nihedmm at gmail.com (nihed mbarek)
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 21:36:45 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Report of the event "Free software and proprietary
software, a choice for complementarity"
In-Reply-To: <5bddd8fd0703032254r2772af2ete2139fbc8e54993e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5bddd8fd0703031141t56ebfd43h50b8e55d91afb8ec@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi
more photos about the manifestation on this link
http://infoplusplus.blogspot.com/2007/03/photo-de-la-journe-du-28.html
2007/3/4, nihed mbarek :
>
> Hi
> in the future, i will add the list of event that i will participate.
> thxs to add this event in last event.
>
> and good job for all ambassadors
>
> 2007/3/4, Thomas Chung < tchung at fedoraproject.org>:
> >
> > On 3/3/07, nihed mbarek < nihedmm at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > In February 28 took place an event in the technological pole El
> > Ghazela,
> > > Tunisia, called "Free software and proprietary software, a choice for
> > > complementarity".
> > > It was an opportunity for me and a friend to present The Fedora
> > Project.
> > > Many persons belonging to different fields found out how to create a
> > local
> > > Fedora repository and to make LAMP architecture work.
> > > We used Fedora France banner with some modifications:
> > > http://nihedmbarek.googlepages.com/affiche-fedora.png
> > > Some pictures of the event:
> > > http://infoplusplus.blogspot.com/2007/03/image-du-27-fev-2007.html
> > >
> > > --
> > > M'BAREK Med Nihed,
> > > Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa
> >
> > Thank you for the report.
> > It seem the event was not been entered in our FedoraEvents page.
> > I'll go ahread add in PastEvents page for the record.
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Thomas Chung
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> >
>
>
>
> --
> M'BAREK Med Nihed,
> Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa
>
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Subject: [Ambassadors] nihed wants to share sites with you...
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From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Mon Mar 5 19:59:17 2007
From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira)
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:59:17 -0300
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora
Message-ID: <45EC7695.4080502@projetofedora.org>
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Read this:
http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/21/1340237
ASS: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
www.projetofedora.org
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From mattdm at mattdm.org Mon Mar 5 19:57:43 2007
From: mattdm at mattdm.org (Matthew Miller)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:57:43 -0500
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora
In-Reply-To: <45EC7695.4080502@projetofedora.org>
References: <45EC7695.4080502@projetofedora.org>
Message-ID: <20070305195743.GA8075@jadzia.bu.edu>
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 04:59:17PM -0300, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote:
> Hi Guys!
> Read this:
> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/21/1340237
Or, really, really, really, don't.
(It's the ESR "hey everybody look at me" letter again.)
--
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Boston University Linux ------>
From mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com Mon Mar 5 20:52:09 2007
From: mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mirjam_W=E4ckerlin?=)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 21:52:09 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
Message-ID: <2afa92000703051252n2e4f5e47t9d7360e3b1bf022e@mail.gmail.com>
Hello,
Chitlesh and I we created the draft for Fedora European Infrastructure
with the help of some people on #fedora-mktg.
The Page still needs a lot of work, add your constructive comments and
proposals on:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/Europe
This is the first draft as a result of the discussions at fosdem 2007.
This draft should be completed and hopefully someone will step in for
the post as the Fedora European Executive before LinuxTag 2007 Berlin.
After LinuxTag the real work should get started.
Subscription to the wikipage is adviced.
Regards,
Mirjam
From robert at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 5 21:00:53 2007
From: robert at fedoraproject.org (Robert Scheck)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 22:00:53 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Self introduction about Robert Scheck
Message-ID: <20070305210053.GA10073@hurricane.linuxnetz.de>
Hello folks,
my name is Scheck, Robert Scheck. Currently, I'm 21 years old and I'm from
Germany. Maybe you know my name from Bugzilla reports after updating my
development system to Fedora Core Development, anciently called Rawhide.
I'm also writing some e-mails from time to time to fedora-devel-list and
fedora-extras-list.
Professionally, I'm a programmer at Linux and ERP (Enterprise Resource
Planning) environments working for a young and tiny IT company called ETES
GmbH. Some time before I did my apprenticeship to IT specialist field
systems integration at Hewlett-Packard Germany as result of my personal
interest in computers started in December 1998. And in July 2004, I did my
certification as Red Hat Certified Technician - during my apprenticeship,
but paid by me! ;-)
As you surely recognized, I'm more technical related, thus I'm maintainer
for 10 packages in Fedora Extras. Oh, but I'm not a greenhorn regarding the
representation of company, projects and products: At the CeBIT 2003 in
Hannover/Germany I was presenting "wireless clinic" and mobile solutions
for on-site technicians for HP - but on the Microsoft booth while listening
and watching the Microsoft Windows 2003 Server clips and announcements.
It's no joke, even it maybe sounds funny for a Linux guy. Of course I did
the same at the HP booth when switching with colleagues from there...
When thinking about this, it's a good time to repent at the LinuxTag 2007
in Berlin/Germany which is my initial goal as Fedora Ambassador. At first,
I'll mainly support Gerold Kassube and Florian Brand until things for the
days are clarified. Finally I want to say thanks to Gerold, who encouraged
me to walk this way and to get an ambassador.
Greetings,
Robert
From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 5 22:44:20 2007
From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH)
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:44:20 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] fosdem2007: report
Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703051444h3501ab94t3ef5fd0561d50a5b@mail.gmail.com>
Hello there,
Here is my report:
http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2007/02/fosdem2007-switching-language-conflicts.html#links
Things that we have done at the booth and what visitors liked:
* a paper saying what are the languages Fedora Booth staffs can speak
* well decorated booth
* women at the fedora booth
* professional booth staffs rather than geeks with long hair and beards
* polo-shirts
* people like to engage into discussions to booth staff directly
rather than someone who is constantly behind a screen.
* to hear new features
* what makes fedora so special
What we lacked:
* business cards (though it is already among the Fedora Ambassador wiki items)
* any way so that visitors or anyone can see with whom they are talking too
What we have achieved:
* good contacts with centos
* talks on packaging guidelines with opensuse
* internal fedora talks between various fedora contributors
(marketing,documentation,packaging,translation...)
* internal fedora talks between max and fedora contributors
* chemnitz linuxtag preparation
* preparing LinuxTag2007 Berlin Fudcon
* "Fedora European Infrastructure" drafts
regards,
Chitlesh
--
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From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 5 23:08:33 2007
From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 00:08:33 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] CeBIT2007
Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703051508r7613aec6i7f18e4174d7dcd98@mail.gmail.com>
Hello there,
CeBIT 2007 will take place in Hannover during March 15-21 2007.
There will be no booth for Fedora at CeBIT2007.
But KDE will be present at CeBIT 2007.
http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=CeBIT2007
I've contacted the appropriate kde organizer and I can be at their
booth during that event on 19-20 March (these days I'm free).
But I have been informed that I can't be a Fedora Ambassador at the
booth but a KDE booth staff.
So to the visitors, I'll talk only about KDE and not Fedora!
My initial motivation is to go there and talk to KDE folks about
Fedora's KDE spin. Surely in the intention to recruit one or more
contributors for the Fedora KDE SIG :)
I've left at the KDE booth (Chemnitz LinuxTag) yesterday afternoon for CeBIT:
- 40 DVDs (i386)
- 10 DVDs (x86_64)
and I'll be bringing again
- 40 DVDs (i386)
- 10 DVDs (x86_64)
So in all, There will be 100 DVDs at the KDE booth for CeBIT.
On all those dvds, I've been requested to stick a note saying how to
install KDE from the fedora dvds.
Cheers,
Chitlesh
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From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 6 10:25:54 2007
From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:25:54 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
In-Reply-To: <2afa92000703051252n2e4f5e47t9d7360e3b1bf022e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2afa92000703051252n2e4f5e47t9d7360e3b1bf022e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45ED41B2.1090100@fedoraproject.org>
Mirjam W?ckerlin ha scritto:
> Hello,
>
> Chitlesh and I we created the draft for Fedora European Infrastructure
> with the help of some people on #fedora-mktg.
> The Page still needs a lot of work, add your constructive comments and
> proposals on:
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/Europe
>
> This is the first draft as a result of the discussions at fosdem 2007.
>
> This draft should be completed and hopefully someone will step in for
> the post as the Fedora European Executive before LinuxTag 2007 Berlin.
>
> After LinuxTag the real work should get started.
>
> Subscription to the wikipage is adviced.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mirjam
>
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> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
Excellent! I think that the base is perfect, now we have to work to
develop this draft with the help of ALL European Ambassadors and all
Ambassadors interested.
I have a "little" question: Will he be a permanent Coordinator? If yes,
i agree, because i think that it's necessary continuity to make a work
well, not only, he would be a reference point to all Ambassadors. (In my
opinion a Central Europe's Ambassador would be perfect, because the big
events are there).
Regards
Francesco Ugolini
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From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 6 10:31:50 2007
From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:31:50 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
In-Reply-To: <45ED41B2.1090100@fedoraproject.org>
References: <2afa92000703051252n2e4f5e47t9d7360e3b1bf022e@mail.gmail.com>
<45ED41B2.1090100@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <45ED4316.1040004@fedoraproject.org>
Francesco Ugolini ha scritto:
> Mirjam W?ckerlin ha scritto:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Chitlesh and I we created the draft for Fedora European Infrastructure
>> with the help of some people on #fedora-mktg.
>> The Page still needs a lot of work, add your constructive comments and
>> proposals on:
>>
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/Europe
>>
>> This is the first draft as a result of the discussions at fosdem 2007.
>>
>> This draft should be completed and hopefully someone will step in for
>> the post as the Fedora European Executive before LinuxTag 2007 Berlin.
>>
>> After LinuxTag the real work should get started.
>>
>> Subscription to the wikipage is adviced.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mirjam
>>
>> --
>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>>
>
> Excellent! I think that the base is perfect, now we have to work to
> develop this draft with the help of ALL European Ambassadors and all
> Ambassadors interested.
>
> I have a "little" question: Will he be a permanent Coordinator? If yes,
> i agree, because i think that it's necessary continuity to make a work
> well, not only, he would be a reference point to all Ambassadors. (In my
> opinion a Central Europe's Ambassador would be perfect, because the big
> events are there).
>
> Regards
>
> Francesco Ugolini
Sorry for the mistake: when i use "he" i mean "he" and "she" (in fact a
women would be the best choice for a Fedora European Coordinator). :)
Regards
Francesco Ugolini
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From dimitris at glezos.com Tue Mar 6 16:34:33 2007
From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos)
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 16:34:33 +0000
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
In-Reply-To: <45ED41B2.1090100@fedoraproject.org>
References: <2afa92000703051252n2e4f5e47t9d7360e3b1bf022e@mail.gmail.com>
<45ED41B2.1090100@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <45ED9819.9060004@glezos.com>
O/H Francesco Ugolini ??????:
> Mirjam W?ckerlin ha scritto:
>> Chitlesh and I we created the draft for Fedora European Infrastructure
>> with the help of some people on #fedora-mktg.
>> The Page still needs a lot of work, add your constructive comments and
>> proposals on:
>>
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/Europe
>>
>> This is the first draft as a result of the discussions at fosdem 2007.
>>
>> This draft should be completed and hopefully someone will step in for
>> the post as the Fedora European Executive before LinuxTag 2007 Berlin.
>
> Excellent! I think that the base is perfect, now we have to work to
> develop this draft with the help of ALL European Ambassadors and all
> Ambassadors interested.
>
> I have a "little" question: Will he be a permanent Coordinator? If yes,
> i agree, because i think that it's necessary continuity to make a work
> well, not only, he would be a reference point to all Ambassadors. (In my
> opinion a Central Europe's Ambassador would be perfect, because the big
> events are there).
Best thing would be to have a Steering Committee instead of one person, and find
a way these persons be chosen under meritocracy [1].
To ensure continuity, in the recent Docs elections, the four top vote receivers
serve on FDSCo for a larger period of time (say, 12 months) than the next three
vote receivers (6 months). This way we make sure active members on the FDSCo but
also a continuity of involvement. Maybe this is a good idea for a FEuSCo (Fedora
Europe Steering Committee).
I suggest we expand on the Draft to have a much clearer image on what the
proposal actually proposes. As I noted in Chitlesh's talk, Europe has some very
important characteristics (locality, multilinguality, different laws) that we
should make sure the new "Fedora Office" will strategically address.
Is there a compelling reason we should rush to do it before Linuxtag '07?
-d
[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meritocracy
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From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 6 16:59:09 2007
From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 17:59:09 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
In-Reply-To: <45ED9819.9060004@glezos.com>
References: <2afa92000703051252n2e4f5e47t9d7360e3b1bf022e@mail.gmail.com> <45ED41B2.1090100@fedoraproject.org>
<45ED9819.9060004@glezos.com>
Message-ID: <45ED9DDD.4050201@fedoraproject.org>
Dimitris Glezos ha scritto:
> O/H Francesco Ugolini ??????:
>> Mirjam W?ckerlin ha scritto:
>>> Chitlesh and I we created the draft for Fedora European Infrastructure
>>> with the help of some people on #fedora-mktg.
>>> The Page still needs a lot of work, add your constructive comments and
>>> proposals on:
>>>
>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/Europe
>>>
>>> This is the first draft as a result of the discussions at fosdem 2007.
>>>
>>> This draft should be completed and hopefully someone will step in for
>>> the post as the Fedora European Executive before LinuxTag 2007 Berlin.
>> Excellent! I think that the base is perfect, now we have to work to
>> develop this draft with the help of ALL European Ambassadors and all
>> Ambassadors interested.
>>
>> I have a "little" question: Will he be a permanent Coordinator? If yes,
>> i agree, because i think that it's necessary continuity to make a work
>> well, not only, he would be a reference point to all Ambassadors. (In my
>> opinion a Central Europe's Ambassador would be perfect, because the big
>> events are there).
>
> Best thing would be to have a Steering Committee instead of one person, and find
> a way these persons be chosen under meritocracy [1].
>
> To ensure continuity, in the recent Docs elections, the four top vote receivers
> serve on FDSCo for a larger period of time (say, 12 months) than the next three
> vote receivers (6 months). This way we make sure active members on the FDSCo but
> also a continuity of involvement. Maybe this is a good idea for a FEuSCo (Fedora
> Europe Steering Committee).
>
> I suggest we expand on the Draft to have a much clearer image on what the
> proposal actually proposes. As I noted in Chitlesh's talk, Europe has some very
> important characteristics (locality, multilinguality, different laws) that we
> should make sure the new "Fedora Office" will strategically address.
>
> Is there a compelling reason we should rush to do it before Linuxtag '07?
>
> -d
>
>
> [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meritocracy
>
>
The idea behind the Fedora European Coordinator is to have an European
Reference point, he doesn't override all the other activity, he manage
the European Issue. A steering committee would be not useful at all, we
need a person who can represent all people, that have all the situation
in his hands and be the representative of Fedora European Infrastructure
into the Fedora Project.
We have just a FAmSCo that is composed by European members, we haven't a
Leader...
That's my opinion
Francesco Ugolini
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From mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 17:18:15 2007
From: mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mirjam_W=E4ckerlin?=)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:18:15 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
In-Reply-To: <45ED9819.9060004@glezos.com>
References: <2afa92000703051252n2e4f5e47t9d7360e3b1bf022e@mail.gmail.com>
<45ED41B2.1090100@fedoraproject.org> <45ED9819.9060004@glezos.com>
Message-ID: <2afa92000703060918t64cd5d00w2e20471b54ba42f8@mail.gmail.com>
On 3/6/07, Dimitris Glezos wrote:
> O/H Francesco Ugolini ??????:
> > Mirjam W?ckerlin ha scritto:
> >>
> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/Europe
> > [...]
> > I have a "little" question: Will he be a permanent Coordinator? If yes,
> > i agree, because i think that it's necessary continuity to make a work
> > well, not only, he would be a reference point to all Ambassadors. (In my
> > opinion a Central Europe's Ambassador would be perfect, because the big
> > events are there).
I don't think that the exact geographical situation is important,
since most of the work will have to been done online. Of course, the
person should have some knowledge about the most important events and
also a good general knowledge about European countries.
> Best thing would be to have a Steering Committee instead of one person,
One person (or one person and a replacement person in case of
emergency) would IMO be best in terms of coordination. If you have
Steering Committee they always would have to communicate and
coordinate a lot between themselves and would lose a lot of time
instead of really moving forward.
> and find
> a way these persons be chosen under meritocracy [1].
Meritocracy is in general appreciated in FOSS but it's more important
to have someone who fits all the requirements,meaning someone with all
the needed competences, than to choose someone who's already very busy
within the Ambassadors project. The most merited people already have a
load of work and maybe not the time to invest constantly a lot of
time.
> To ensure continuity, in the recent Docs elections, the four top vote receivers
> serve on FDSCo for a larger period of time (say, 12 months) than the next three
> vote receivers (6 months). This way we make sure active members on the FDSCo but
> also a continuity of involvement. Maybe this is a good idea for a FEuSCo (Fedora
> Europe Steering Committee).
A reelection is a good idea, but a cycle of 6 months is too short for
such a task. I propose a cycle of one year.
FEuSCo sounds like a european localised subgroup/substitution for
FAMSCo but this is not the idea of the European Coordinator (I agree
with Francesco).
> I suggest we expand on the Draft to have a much clearer image on what the
> proposal actually proposes. As I noted in Chitlesh's talk, Europe has some very
> important characteristics (locality, multilinguality, different laws) that we
> should make sure the new "Fedora Office" will strategically address.
The proposal is only a draft and should get more detailed (ideas are
appreciated!). But the task of the executive is not to organise the
events and know every detail (this will be left to the local
Ambassadors), but to coordinate them and distribute resources.
> Is there a compelling reason we should rush to do it before Linuxtag '07?
There will be a FudCon at LinuxTag where the final decision could be
made. If we can't make it by then, it may take a very long time to put
the idea into effect.
Regards,
Mirjam
From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 6 17:26:59 2007
From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:26:59 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
In-Reply-To: <45ED9819.9060004@glezos.com>
References: <2afa92000703051252n2e4f5e47t9d7360e3b1bf022e@mail.gmail.com>
<45ED41B2.1090100@fedoraproject.org> <45ED9819.9060004@glezos.com>
Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703060926l1ef18766je7c5ed6e6170b02b@mail.gmail.com>
On 3/6/07, Dimitris Glezos wrote:
> I suggest we expand on the Draft to have a much clearer image on what the
> proposal actually proposes.
Hello,
Sure, let's us know what is missing or simply edit the wiki page.
To start the process of _real_ talk, I would propose that the item
"Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure" be listed on the weekly
meetings.
Francesco, can you lead this item during the weekly meetings ? Surely,
there must be more attendees as well to discuss that item and improve
its status.
regards,
Chitlesh
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http://clunixchit.blogspot.com
From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 6 17:39:26 2007
From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:39:26 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0703060926l1ef18766je7c5ed6e6170b02b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2afa92000703051252n2e4f5e47t9d7360e3b1bf022e@mail.gmail.com> <45ED41B2.1090100@fedoraproject.org>
<45ED9819.9060004@glezos.com>
<13dbfe4f0703060926l1ef18766je7c5ed6e6170b02b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45EDA74E.9070803@fedoraproject.org>
Chitlesh GOORAH ha scritto:
> On 3/6/07, Dimitris Glezos wrote:
>> I suggest we expand on the Draft to have a much clearer image on what the
>> proposal actually proposes.
>
> Hello,
> Sure, let's us know what is missing or simply edit the wiki page.
>
> To start the process of _real_ talk, I would propose that the item
> "Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure" be listed on the weekly
> meetings.
>
> Francesco, can you lead this item during the weekly meetings ? Surely,
> there must be more attendees as well to discuss that item and improve
> its status.
>
> regards,
> Chitlesh
Ok, no problem.
Regards
Francesco Ugolini
--
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
From armelk at akserver.dyndns.org Tue Mar 6 19:30:24 2007
From: armelk at akserver.dyndns.org (Kermorvant Armel)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:30:24 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
Message-ID:
Good Afternoon,
I agree with you and I discust about this point
with Chitlesh 3 weeks ago and we have the same
point of view.
But, after a short discussion with himm we share
the same point of view about this subjet is :
1st Step : Creation of a legal entity in your
country (Exemple Fedora-FR in France)
2nd Step : After the 1st step I OK
Why ?
- It's necessary we have a really big local
community
- Strong local message on the Fedora Commnunity.
- Prepare the local event and share it with the
Europen Fedora team (Exemple Fudcon, I agree it's
a major event, but very good exemple to share the
knowledge)
Best Regards
Armel
----- Message Original -----
Sujet: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European
Infrastructure
De: mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com
A: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
Date: 05-03-2007 23:03
> Hello,
>
> Chitlesh and I we created the draft for Fedora
European Infrastructure
> with the help of some people on #fedora-mktg.
> The Page still needs a lot of work, add your
constructive comments and
> proposals on:
>
>
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/Europe
>
> This is the first draft as a result of the
discussions at fosdem 2007.
>
> This draft should be completed and hopefully
someone will step in for
> the post as the Fedora European Executive before
LinuxTag 2007 Berlin.
>
> After LinuxTag the real work should get started.
>
> Subscription to the wikipage is adviced.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mirjam
>
> --
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> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
>
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
From francesco at ephisia.org Tue Mar 6 19:47:03 2007
From: francesco at ephisia.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:47:03 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
I don't agree with this point of view. I think we have yes to work on
localisation but we have to stay together. I know that each country
has its problem etc.. but we have to remember we are a Global
Community, that have to work together to solve its problem. I want to
use to describe this thing the European Motto:" United in the
diversity" .
I think that Fedora European Infrastructure could help in this sense,
without closing each country in their problems but sharing our
experiences, ideas and working together to improve ourselves.
I've said those word one houndred times but i think they give the
sense of this discussion: We need a reference point, that could help
all people and could manage our issues: it's impossible to think that
USA can manage all those ones, because we are too far.
Fedora European Infrastructure will be a tool for european people.
Regards
Francesco Ugolini
2007/3/6, Kermorvant Armel :
>
> Good Afternoon,
>
> I agree with you and I discust about this point
> with Chitlesh 3 weeks ago and we have the same
> point of view.
> But, after a short discussion with himm we share
> the same point of view about this subjet is :
>
> 1st Step : Creation of a legal entity in your
> country (Exemple Fedora-FR in France)
> 2nd Step : After the 1st step I OK
>
> Why ?
> - It's necessary we have a really big local
> community
> - Strong local message on the Fedora Commnunity.
> - Prepare the local event and share it with the
> Europen Fedora team (Exemple Fudcon, I agree it's
> a major event, but very good exemple to share the
> knowledge)
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> Armel
>
> ----- Message Original -----
> Sujet: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European
> Infrastructure
> De: mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com
> A: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> Date: 05-03-2007 23:03
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Chitlesh and I we created the draft for Fedora
> European Infrastructure
> > with the help of some people on #fedora-mktg.
> > The Page still needs a lot of work, add your
> constructive comments and
> > proposals on:
> >
> >
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/Europe
> >
> > This is the first draft as a result of the
> discussions at fosdem 2007.
> >
> > This draft should be completed and hopefully
> someone will step in for
> > the post as the Fedora European Executive before
> LinuxTag 2007 Berlin.
> >
> > After LinuxTag the real work should get started.
> >
> > Subscription to the wikipage is adviced.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mirjam
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> >
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
>
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>
From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 7 06:17:24 2007
From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 22:17:24 -0800
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Events - FLISOL 2007
Message-ID: <369bce3b0703062217o7429be13q8ff861abd461348@mail.gmail.com>
All,
It comes to my attention we need to clean up following in our FedoraEvents page.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents
April 28, 2007 - FLISOL 2007 Buenos Aires - PabloBarrera , NicolasCorrarello
April 28, 2007 - FLISOL 2007 - HernanPachas
April 28, 2007 - FLISOL 2007 - GuillermoGomez WilmerJaramillo, WalterCervini
Do we really need to have 3 separate entries here?
If so, we need to distinguish them by adding Country next to FLISOL 2007
Also, please re-write the short description in English
Regards,
--
Thomas Chung
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung
From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 7 10:59:32 2007
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:29:32 +0530
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <45EE9B14.7000603@fedoraproject.org>
Kermorvant Armel wrote:
> Good Afternoon,
>
> I agree with you and I discust about this point
> with Chitlesh 3 weeks ago and we have the same
> point of view.
> But, after a short discussion with himm we share
> the same point of view about this subjet is :
>
> 1st Step : Creation of a legal entity in your
> country (Exemple Fedora-FR in France)
Is there any good reasons to create a separate legal entity on a
regional basis? Have you consulted with Red Hat legal on this?
Rahul
From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 7 13:42:15 2007
From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:42:15 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors' meeting reminder - Thursday 8th March
22.00 UTC
Message-ID: <45EEC137.3020406@fedoraproject.org>
I want to remember all ambassadors that tomorrow there will be a meeting
at 22.00 UTC in #fedora-meeting channel.
I invite all to attend it to discuss about events, new projects etc...
You can see
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2007-03-08
to see the agenda or to add new topics to this one.
Thanks for your attention
Francesco Ugolini
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From simon at simline.de Wed Mar 7 14:54:01 2007
From: simon at simline.de (simon)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:54:01 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] CLT 2007
Message-ID: <200703071554.05744.simon@simline.de>
Hello Friends,
my report for Chemnitzer Linuxtage 2007 on
http://fedoranews.org/cms/node/2757
Cheers JoergSimon
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From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Wed Mar 7 18:36:55 2007
From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira)
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:36:55 -0300
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Events - FLISOL 2007
In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703062217o7429be13q8ff861abd461348@mail.gmail.com>
References: <369bce3b0703062217o7429be13q8ff861abd461348@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Thomas.
The FLISOL is a install fest event (Latin American Install Fest)
Official site http://www.installfest.info/
Thomas Chung escreveu:
> All,
>
> It comes to my attention we need to clean up following in our
> FedoraEvents page.
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents
ARGENTINA > April 28, 2007 - FLISOL 2007 Buenos Aires - PabloBarrera ,
> NicolasCorrarello
PERU > April 28, 2007 - FLISOL 2007 - HernanPachas
VENZUELA > April 28, 2007 - FLISOL 2007 - GuillermoGomez WilmerJaramillo,
> WalterCervini
>
> Do we really need to have 3 separate entries here?
> If so, we need to distinguish them by adding Country next to FLISOL 2007
> Also, please re-write the short description in English
>
> Regards,
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From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 8 21:56:48 2007
From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:56:48 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703081356p25fee12dt597e073bcaa5a823@mail.gmail.com>
On 3/6/07, Kermorvant Armel wrote:
> I agree with you and I discust about this point with Chitlesh 3 weeks ago and we have the
>same point of view.
> But, after a short discussion with himm we share the same point of view about this
> subjet is :
> 1st Step : Creation of a legal entity in your country (Exemple Fedora-FR in France)
> 2nd Step : After the 1st step I OK
I disagreed having Europe moving in that direction.
Hello, though, I don't remember when that discussion took place, I
think I made it clear that :
- the real work should be done at the Fedora Ambassador's project
i.e in the other terms Fedora Ambassadors/Marketing Mailing Lists
and its meetings
- Fedora-fr is for "donations" and the "shop". However, I'm NOT for
Fedora-fr being independent from Fedora Ambassador Project.
In general, I don't want local communities to be independent of Fedora
Ambassador Project. I understand that language is a problem. But
should we take language as a blocker for working together ?
We have seen in the past:
- FAD (Fedora Ambassador Day)
- FOSDEM2007
where we had ambassadors and fedora contributors from different
countries. Sure we had at some point converged to english as the
language for communication, but at the same time Fedora isn't a
language contest, but about open-source.
Fedora said and will be saying working "the upstream model" is the
where progress will be.
We have to make sure that Fedora Ambassadors does his job!
And at the same time have a look at our Fedora Ambassador Meeting, it's dying !!
Meetings have loss its sense and ambassadors don't take part on the
project but ready to criticized whenever they feel like.
Having legal entity for each country will lead to :
- everyone will concentrate on his/her country only under the name of
Fedora but not for Fedora
- Fedora Marketing and FAMSCo won't know what is happening in your
country hence our infrastructure that we are working on will not be
useful and someone has to :
- tell Max that we are not ready for the infrastructure.
- bear all the critics and flame wars that Red Hat is giving up on
Fedora or whatever because local communities are too weak to be
operating on their own.
- agree that he/she refused the infrastructure that will make
his/her fedora community better that any other linux project has done
or can do. I know many in this list compare fedora projects to
ubuntu's, but won't you like not to say/do anything and everything is
praising fedora ? Now is the time.
The different Fedora Projects operate independently and
automatically. But unfortunately each project can't listen and satisfy
each contributor. It is the case of the Fedora Ambassadors project
where contributors want to do things, but unfortunately to do so for
this particular project a minimum budget is required.
A Fedora Ambassador is someone who spread the word for Fedora. But
unfortunately that Fedora Ambassador is weak without infrastructure
and budget to make things for Fedora's advantage.
To make that Fedora Ambassadors' life better in terms of
infrastructure and budget, there are different ways to do so:
- creating local communities and legal entities
- sit and cry
- sit and wait
- use some of the infrastructure and budget that Fedora Marketing has.
The last item in our case today is that Max proposed an extra budget
for Europe and the question is how can that budget be shared and used
appropriately among European Ambassadors ?
Eventually, everyone can opt for the _ultimate_ solution[2], i.e "sit and wait".
MirjamWaeckerlin, ThomasCanniot, GeroldKassube and I proposed "Fedora
European Infrastructure" which is a set of guidelines on what kind of
Executive we are looking for.
But this ultimate solution[2] will lead to someone needs to do that
job and that job will be done according to his/her way. Of course one
or two months, some will "sit and cry" because the guidelines :
- aren't in their favour
- give credit to how hard they worked
- ....
I'm quite sad that those who said that the actual Fedora Ambassador
infrastructure sucks and their requests aren't processed or rejected,
that they didn't step in to propose new but concrete ideas.
Or perhaps you think that MirjamWaeckerlin, ThomasCanniot,
GeroldKassube and I have already done everything. Believe me, we
haven't!
Things like:
- how and on what circumstances the Executive will reimburse a fedora ambassador
- can any ambassador be reimbursed ?
- is the Executive the one who will provide tshirts or dvds to other
european ambassadors
- the delay of reimbursed and how
- ....
needs to be discussed and write as guidelines so that in the future,
we know who has what kind of rights.
Before we all get confused in unrealistic ideas/suggestions for the
future of the "Fedora European Infrastructure", take a short break and
look at the picture from an objective point of view.
Hai it's is all about money !
- If one country has a way to make money ("see RH legal) for
sponsoring their Fedora events, so perhaps don't need that "Fedora
European Infrastructure" we are building.
- it is not only about spending money, but at the same time, try to
bring back some(at least small) amount of money back either from
selling dvds/tshirts as donations at the booth. (I was waiting for
someone to say such thing, but anyway)
JoergSimon and I collected 214? from Chemnitz Linuxtag and right now,
he kept the money. But if we had already "Fedora European
Infrastructure" we could add it to the Fedora European budget.
This means that if someone is coming from Paris or Copenhague and that
his/her local community doesn't have enough money perhaps that money
of "Fedora European Infrastructure" can be used to pay his/her voyage.
But if everyone sticks to his/her country(local community), and prays
only that local community, then contributors from one european country
will not help fedora contributors of another countries. I'm sorry
then, we are not Fedora.
We will not be that Fedora which cares for:
- upstream
- centralized repository
- its contributors
The Fedora Project is a set of projects where most of the time, in each project
- there is a steering committee and the contributors
- some contributors [1] contributes on other projects.
The steering committee does the communication between the different
projects (some other contributors[1] help also) to make sure that the
final output is professional and of quality.
Right now, we can conclude from a country X the fedora project can
have many contributors on different projects.
E.g. country X may have :
- n contributors on documentation project,
- m contributors on artwork project,
- n+P contributors on the ambassadors project
Perhaps if our mechanisms is being successful "Fedora European
Infrastructure" could pay other fedora contributors(other than
ambassadors) to come and attend a fudcon for example.
I'll stop writing I've a lot to say and will never end.
Here is fedora
- professional contributors
- good looking personals at the booth
- personals at the booth have materials for the events
- professional projects and professional distributions
- keep on being innovative
- has man power to do the job
- community can talk and express
Here are other distributions:
- lack of man power
- boss kills good project
- have only a distribution
- geeks at the booth
- waste events behind computer screens instead of spreading the word.
I think you don't want fedora to be in that "other distributions"
category. I don't. Fedora is special let's keep on making it special
is my wish.
FrancescoUgolini expressed correctly we have to remember we are a Global
Community, that have to work together to solve its problem.
regards,
Chitlesh
--
http://clunixchit.blogspot.com
From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Thu Mar 8 23:35:10 2007
From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 00:35:10 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
In-Reply-To: <45EE9B14.7000603@fedoraproject.org>
References:
<45EE9B14.7000603@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1173396910.7379.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Le mercredi 07 mars 2007 ? 16:29 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a ?crit :
> Kermorvant Armel wrote:
> > Good Afternoon,
> >
> > I agree with you and I discust about this point
> > with Chitlesh 3 weeks ago and we have the same
> > point of view.
> > But, after a short discussion with himm we share
> > the same point of view about this subjet is :
> >
> > 1st Step : Creation of a legal entity in your
> > country (Exemple Fedora-FR in France)
>
> Is there any good reasons to create a separate legal entity on a
> regional basis? Have you consulted with Red Hat legal on this?
>
As long as the Fedora Project can't be given money by users to help
promoting the project and as long as the ambassadors project will fail
fulfilling some of our requests (despite everybody good will) there are
only good reasons to do it.
Moreover, Franz Meyer, RH Director of South Europe & MEA knows about our
plans and wishes RH France to help us.
Thomas
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From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Thu Mar 8 23:53:30 2007
From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 00:53:30 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0703081356p25fee12dt597e073bcaa5a823@mail.gmail.com>
References:
<13dbfe4f0703081356p25fee12dt597e073bcaa5a823@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1173398011.7379.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Le jeudi 08 mars 2007 ? 22:56 +0100, Chitlesh GOORAH a ?crit :
> On 3/6/07, Kermorvant Armel wrote:
> > I agree with you and I discust about this point with Chitlesh 3 weeks ago and we have the
> >same point of view.
> > But, after a short discussion with himm we share the same point of view about this
> > subjet is :
>
> > 1st Step : Creation of a legal entity in your country (Exemple Fedora-FR in France)
> > 2nd Step : After the 1st step I OK
>
> I disagreed having Europe moving in that direction.
>
> Hello, though, I don't remember when that discussion took place, I
> think I made it clear that :
> - the real work should be done at the Fedora Ambassador's project
> i.e in the other terms Fedora Ambassadors/Marketing Mailing Lists
> and its meetings
> - Fedora-fr is for "donations" and the "shop". However, I'm NOT for
> Fedora-fr being independent from Fedora Ambassador Project.
Just keep in mind that Fedora-fr first steering committee has *only*
Fedora Ambassadors in it. Is this enough to reassure you ?
>
> In general, I don't want local communities to be independent of Fedora
> Ambassador Project. I understand that language is a problem. But
> should we take language as a blocker for working together ?
As its president, I don't wish it either. We share the same goals than
Amb. Project : promoting the distro.
>
> We have seen in the past:
> - FAD (Fedora Ambassador Day)
> - FOSDEM2007
> where we had ambassadors and fedora contributors from different
> countries. Sure we had at some point converged to english as the
> language for communication, but at the same time Fedora isn't a
> language contest, but about open-source.
>
> Fedora said and will be saying working "the upstream model" is the
> where progress will be.
> We have to make sure that Fedora Ambassadors does his job!
It is doing well I think. We were encouraged to create stuff locally,
and as no people wanted / could not to pay in advance schwags, we had to
create a legal organisation. That is as simple as that.
>
> And at the same time have a look at our Fedora Ambassador Meeting, it's dying !!
> Meetings have loss its sense and ambassadors don't take part on the
> project but ready to criticized whenever they feel like.
I agree and I admit not attending Meeting any more. I have a new fresh
eyes about it since FOSDEM. But I really tend to *forget* them. We used
to have a mail reminder, where has it gone ?
>
> Having legal entity for each country will lead to :
> - everyone will concentrate on his/her country only under the name of
> Fedora but not for Fedora
I don't agree with this statement. Working localy is a good start to
then work as a whole project. We have to stay close to our user base.
> - Fedora Marketing and FAMSCo won't know what is happening in your
> country hence our infrastructure that we are working on will not be
> useful and someone has to :
> - tell Max that we are not ready for the infrastructure.
> - bear all the critics and flame wars that Red Hat is giving up on
> Fedora or whatever because local communities are too weak to be
> operating on their own.
> - agree that he/she refused the infrastructure that will make
> his/her fedora community better that any other linux project has done
> or can do. I know many in this list compare fedora projects to
> ubuntu's, but won't you like not to say/do anything and everything is
> praising fedora ? Now is the time.
>
> The different Fedora Projects operate independently and
> automatically. But unfortunately each project can't listen and satisfy
> each contributor. It is the case of the Fedora Ambassadors project
> where contributors want to do things, but unfortunately to do so for
> this particular project a minimum budget is required.
>
> A Fedora Ambassador is someone who spread the word for Fedora. But
> unfortunately that Fedora Ambassador is weak without infrastructure
> and budget to make things for Fedora's advantage.
In any extent, it seems to be as well a problem we are trying to solve
through Fedora-fr.
>
> To make that Fedora Ambassadors' life better in terms of
> infrastructure and budget, there are different ways to do so:
> - creating local communities and legal entities
> - sit and cry
> - sit and wait
> - use some of the infrastructure and budget that Fedora Marketing has.
>
> The last item in our case today is that Max proposed an extra budget
> for Europe and the question is how can that budget be shared and used
> appropriately among European Ambassadors ?
>
> Eventually, everyone can opt for the _ultimate_ solution[2], i.e "sit and wait".
>
> MirjamWaeckerlin, ThomasCanniot, GeroldKassube and I proposed "Fedora
> European Infrastructure" which is a set of guidelines on what kind of
> Executive we are looking for.
>
> But this ultimate solution[2] will lead to someone needs to do that
> job and that job will be done according to his/her way. Of course one
> or two months, some will "sit and cry" because the guidelines :
> - aren't in their favour
> - give credit to how hard they worked
> - ....
>
> I'm quite sad that those who said that the actual Fedora Ambassador
> infrastructure sucks and their requests aren't processed or rejected,
> that they didn't step in to propose new but concrete ideas.
>
> Or perhaps you think that MirjamWaeckerlin, ThomasCanniot,
> GeroldKassube and I have already done everything. Believe me, we
> haven't!
>
> Things like:
> - how and on what circumstances the Executive will reimburse a fedora ambassador
> - can any ambassador be reimbursed ?
> - is the Executive the one who will provide tshirts or dvds to other
> european ambassadors
> - the delay of reimbursed and how
> - ....
> needs to be discussed and write as guidelines so that in the future,
> we know who has what kind of rights.
>
> Before we all get confused in unrealistic ideas/suggestions for the
> future of the "Fedora European Infrastructure", take a short break and
> look at the picture from an objective point of view.
>
> Hai it's is all about money !
> - If one country has a way to make money ("see RH legal) for
> sponsoring their Fedora events, so perhaps don't need that "Fedora
> European Infrastructure" we are building.
I do think we need it. Red Hat would prefer giving it to an
organisation / infrastructure towards it can be accountable. I don't
think they would give money to individuals in every European countries.
Here, it is a question of credibility.
Thomas
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From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Thu Mar 8 23:54:10 2007
From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 00:54:10 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors' meeting reminder - Thursday 8th March
22.00 UTC
In-Reply-To: <45EEC137.3020406@fedoraproject.org>
References: <45EEC137.3020406@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1173398050.7379.19.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Le mercredi 07 mars 2007 ? 14:42 +0100, Francesco Ugolini a ?crit :
> I want to remember all ambassadors that tomorrow there will be a meeting
> at 22.00 UTC in #fedora-meeting channel.
>
> I invite all to attend it to discuss about events, new projects etc...
>
> You can see
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2007-03-08
> to see the agenda or to add new topics to this one.
>
> Thanks for your attention
>
> Francesco Ugolini
oh :'( here is the mail reminder.
Cheers
Thomas
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From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 9 15:14:38 2007
From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:14:38 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
In-Reply-To: <1173398011.7379.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <13dbfe4f0703081356p25fee12dt597e073bcaa5a823@mail.gmail.com>
<1173398011.7379.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <45F179DE.1000006@fedoraproject.org>
> I agree and I admit not attending Meeting any more. I have a new fresh
> eyes about it since FOSDEM. But I really tend to *forget* them. We used
> to have a mail reminder, where has it gone ?
I send the day before an email with all information.
Francesco
--
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Fri Mar 9 17:21:55 2007
From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 18:21:55 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
In-Reply-To: <45F179DE.1000006@fedoraproject.org>
References:
<13dbfe4f0703081356p25fee12dt597e073bcaa5a823@mail.gmail.com>
<1173398011.7379.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
<45F179DE.1000006@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1173460915.27409.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Le vendredi 09 mars 2007 ? 16:14 +0100, Francesco Ugolini a ?crit :
> > I agree and I admit not attending Meeting any more. I have a new fresh
> > eyes about it since FOSDEM. But I really tend to *forget* them. We used
> > to have a mail reminder, where has it gone ?
>
> I send the day before an email with all information.
Yep that's all my fault :s
Thomas
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From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Sun Mar 11 11:20:01 2007
From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:20:01 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1930
Message-ID: <1173612001.5280.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and
_every_ interested people.
2007-03-11 / 19:30 UTC
IRC: freenode
#fedora-mktg-fr
Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones,
qui aura lieu ce dimanche (11 mars) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC
(freenode) #fedora-mktg-fr .
Thomas
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From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 11 12:33:27 2007
From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:33:27 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors wiki page modify
Message-ID: <45F3F717.3080007@fedoraproject.org>
At the beginning of Fedora Ambassador Wiki page there is the follow
sentence: "Fedora Ambassadors are people like you and me, who go to
places where other Linux users and potential converts gather and tell
them about Fedora --- the project and the distribution."
I propose to use, instead, the
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/TalkingPoints sentence (i add
"Ambassadors" at the beggining):
"Ambassadors spread the good word of Fedora. Spread the glamor. Spread
the action. Make waves. Encourage participation. Encourage the community."
What do you think?
Regards
Francesco Ugolini
--
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Sun Mar 11 19:18:19 2007
From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:18:19 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] French Meeting
Message-ID: <1173640699.3495.31.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Hello everybody, I would like to know what implication would it require
for French Ambassadors to hold their Sunday meeting on #fedora-meeting
instead of our local channel ?
Cheers,
Thomas
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From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 11 19:23:22 2007
From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:23:22 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] French Meeting
In-Reply-To: <1173640699.3495.31.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1173640699.3495.31.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <45F4572A.40700@fedoraproject.org>
The discussion will be public (as fedora-fr), but you will use a shared
channel for meeting.
Regards
Francesco Ugolini
Thomas Canniot ha scritto:
> Hello everybody, I would like to know what implication would it require
> for French Ambassadors to hold their Sunday meeting on #fedora-meeting
> instead of our local channel ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thomas
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> --
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From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 11 23:59:15 2007
From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:59:15 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] CLT 2007
In-Reply-To: <200703071554.05744.simon@simline.de>
References: <200703071554.05744.simon@simline.de>
Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703111659y22e476cel7e94f7b5e5bf5780@mail.gmail.com>
On 3/7/07, simon wrote:
> Hello Friends,
> my report for Chemnitzer Linuxtage 2007 on
> http://fedoranews.org/cms/node/2757
Hello there,
here is my report:
- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2007/03/chemnitz-live-snapshot-of-our-activity.html#links
- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2007/03/chemnitz-fedora-game-sig-and-karaoke.html#links
- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2007/03/chemnitz-linuxtag-my-report.html#links
JoergSimon has said everything in his report. I've rather talked about
our visitors at our booth.
However there was something which annoyed me like hell and it was the
second time. I just think I should write it here and perhaps for
LinuxTag2007 berlin we don't encounter another issue with the guy
again!
I can't accept a second "mistake" on our booth. 2 consecutive
Linuxtags, the same guy took (I won't say "steal") material(s) from
our booth without asking any fedora booth staff the permission!
First time(last year), he took fedora dvds at our booth (LinuxTag2006
Wiesbaden) when we were packing up the whole booth. When GeroldKassube
caught him, he said "by mistake"! We got the dvds back.
Last friday night, we set up the fedora booth at Chemnitz LinuxTag and
left some hardware at the booth plus an extra table which I was
supposed to give it to the kubuntu team. I precise kubuntu and not
ubuntu. Unfortunately, I didn't have the chance to hand that table to
the kubuntu team last night so I wrote on a paper and stick on a table
"Reserved for Fedora" thinking the next day I can hand it to them.
Both our neighbours kubuntu and ubuntu had 2 tables only.
Saturday morning, that table is gone. My f**king piece of paper had no
effect. I was like a stupid that lost the item of kubuntu at the
Fedora booth. To my right, I see our neighbour setting up his
particular booth with 3 tables. I asked him kindly whether he took a
table from the Fedora Booth. He confessed (agressively in his words)
having moved our materials and took the table despite my notes.
People don't have manners !
I'm writing this here, not to complain, but I would rather like fedora
ambassadors don't do like he did!
Chitlesh
--
http://clunixchit.blogspot.com
From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Mon Mar 12 04:38:37 2007
From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:38:37 -0300
Subject: [Ambassadors] Banner
Message-ID: <45F4D94D.3010406@projetofedora.org>
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Where is it ?
DNA theme - 468x60
The look of the FC6 "DNA"
Upload new attachment "dna-_strong class="highlight"_banner__strong_.png"
At: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Banners
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From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 12 08:35:01 2007
From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:35:01 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Banner
In-Reply-To: <45F4D94D.3010406@projetofedora.org>
References: <45F4D94D.3010406@projetofedora.org>
Message-ID: <45F510B5.2000203@fedoraproject.org>
I see it and it looks good. (congratulation to the designer)
Regards
Francesco Ugolini
Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto:
> Where is it ?
>
> DNA theme - 468x60
> The look of the FC6 "DNA"
> Upload new attachment "dna-_strong class="highlight"_banner__strong_.png"
>
> At: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Banners
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From lin at dr-hank.com Mon Mar 12 16:05:49 2007
From: lin at dr-hank.com (Lin Juan Carlos)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:05:49 -0300
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors wiki page modify
In-Reply-To: <45F3F717.3080007@fedoraproject.org>
References: <45F3F717.3080007@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <20070312160327.M42998@dr-hank.com>
On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:33:27 +0100, Francesco Ugolini wrote
> At the beginning of Fedora Ambassador Wiki page there is the follow
> sentence: "Fedora Ambassadors are people like you and me, who go to
> places where other Linux users and potential converts gather and tell
> them about Fedora --- the project and the distribution."
>
> I propose to use, instead, the
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/TalkingPoints sentence (i add
> "Ambassadors" at the beggining):
>
> "Ambassadors spread the good word of Fedora. Spread the glamor. Spread
> the action. Make waves. Encourage participation. Encourage the community."
>
> What do you think?
>
> Regards
>
> Francesco Ugolini
> --
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
>
> --
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> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
I think that the first sentence "people like you and me" is very usefull, it means
that we are not alliens.
So as feeling, I do like the actual message
Juan Carlos Lin
lin at dr-hank.com
From lin at dr-hank.com Mon Mar 12 16:08:02 2007
From: lin at dr-hank.com (Lin Juan Carlos)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:08:02 -0300
Subject: [Ambassadors] Banner
In-Reply-To: <45F510B5.2000203@fedoraproject.org>
References: <45F4D94D.3010406@projetofedora.org>
<45F510B5.2000203@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <20070312160735.M62760@dr-hank.com>
Congratulations to the designer too
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:35:01 +0100, Francesco Ugolini wrote
> I see it and it looks good. (congratulation to the designer)
>
> Regards
>
> Francesco Ugolini
>
> Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto:
> > Where is it ?
> >
> > DNA theme - 468x60
> > The look of the FC6 "DNA"
> > Upload new attachment "dna-_strong class="highlight"_banner__strong_.png"
> >
> > At: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Banners
>
> --
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> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
> --
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
>
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> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
Juan Carlos Lin
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From kwade at redhat.com Mon Mar 12 18:47:36 2007
From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:47:36 -0800
Subject: [Ambassadors] CLT 2007
In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0703111659y22e476cel7e94f7b5e5bf5780@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200703071554.05744.simon@simline.de>
<13dbfe4f0703111659y22e476cel7e94f7b5e5bf5780@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1173725256.3935.415.camel@erato.phig.org>
On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 00:59 +0100, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
> I'm writing this here, not to complain, but I would rather like fedora
> ambassadors don't do like he did!
+1
Our behavior at events speaks for the whole Fedora Project.
Also, these events are a great chance to meet people who do similar
things in other projects, and to learn from each other. Many
collaborations are started at such events.
But no one will want to work with people who have a bad reputation for
competitiveness, rudeness, etc.
I'm very proud of our Fedora Ambassadors and how we interact with the
community and at events. Thank you all.
- Karsten
--
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Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject
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From nihedmm at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 18:48:45 2007
From: nihedmm at gmail.com (nihed mbarek)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:48:45 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Banner
In-Reply-To: <20070312160735.M62760@dr-hank.com>
References: <45F4D94D.3010406@projetofedora.org>
<45F510B5.2000203@fedoraproject.org>
<20070312160735.M62760@dr-hank.com>
Message-ID: <5bddd8fd0703121148o55147edfu8c322decec8c73d2@mail.gmail.com>
I love it
2007/3/12, Lin Juan Carlos :
>
> Congratulations to the designer too
>
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:35:01 +0100, Francesco Ugolini wrote
> > I see it and it looks good. (congratulation to the designer)
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Francesco Ugolini
> >
> > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira ha scritto:
> > > Where is it ?
> > >
> > > DNA theme - 468x60
> > > The look of the FC6 "DNA"
> > > Upload new attachment "dna-_strong
> class="highlight"_banner__strong_.png"
> > >
> > > At: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Banners
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> >
> > --
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
>
> Juan Carlos Lin
> lin at dr-hank.com
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
--
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From tchung at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 12 18:57:27 2007
From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:57:27 -0700
Subject: [Ambassadors] CLT 2007
In-Reply-To: <1173725256.3935.415.camel@erato.phig.org>
References: <200703071554.05744.simon@simline.de>
<13dbfe4f0703111659y22e476cel7e94f7b5e5bf5780@mail.gmail.com>
<1173725256.3935.415.camel@erato.phig.org>
Message-ID: <369bce3b0703121157s1c07d7bdu3ed3d58df1271703@mail.gmail.com>
On 3/12/07, Karsten Wade wrote:
> ...
> Our behavior at events speaks for the whole Fedora Project.
> ...
Same thought goes from me.
Also please let us know how we can prevent such issue in the future.
Regards,
--
Thomas Chung
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung
From simon at simline.de Mon Mar 12 20:59:17 2007
From: simon at simline.de (simon)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:59:17 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] CLT 2007
In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703121157s1c07d7bdu3ed3d58df1271703@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200703071554.05744.simon@simline.de>
<1173725256.3935.415.camel@erato.phig.org>
<369bce3b0703121157s1c07d7bdu3ed3d58df1271703@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200703122159.23029.simon@simline.de>
Am Montag, 12. M?rz 2007 19:57 schrieb Thomas Chung:
> Also please let us know how we can prevent such issue in the future.
Chitlesh told him very direct what he/we think about his behavior ;-)
But you can never prevent this, so long people are ignorant and think only
about their own comfort.
So the best what we can do is be a / the "good example"
CU JoergSimon
--
J?rg Simon
jsimon at fedoraproject.org
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon
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From mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 13:57:38 2007
From: mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com (Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:57:38 +0800
Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi :)
Message-ID:
Hello ambassadors,
I'm new here ... my name is Mohd Izhar Firdaus , I'm from Malaysia and
just joined the ambassador program.
.. I'm a student in PETRONAS University of Technology taking ICT
course .. have been slowly promoting linux, FOSS and Fedora in the
university for a while now .. and just decided to make it official ..
I still have a lot to learn .. and hope y'all can guide and help me through ..
:D
--
-----------------------------------------------
regards
Hikaru
-----------------------------------------------
Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
Amano Hikaru
??? ???? ????
Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS
ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester
mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com
-----------------------------------------------
kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com
Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com
-----------------------------------------------
From hernan.pachas at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 14:04:12 2007
From: hernan.pachas at gmail.com (Hernan Pachas)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:04:12 -0500
Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi :)
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Welcome Mohd.
---Hernan
On 3/13/07, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote:
> Hello ambassadors,
>
> I'm new here ... my name is Mohd Izhar Firdaus , I'm from Malaysia and
> just joined the ambassador program.
>
> .. I'm a student in PETRONAS University of Technology taking ICT
> course .. have been slowly promoting linux, FOSS and Fedora in the
> university for a while now .. and just decided to make it official ..
>
> I still have a lot to learn .. and hope y'all can guide and help me through ..
>
> :D
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------
> regards
> Hikaru
> -----------------------------------------------
> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
> Amano Hikaru
> ??? ???? ????
> Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS
> ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester
> mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com
> -----------------------------------------------
> kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com
> Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
From mohamedimran.kr at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 14:43:10 2007
From: mohamedimran.kr at gmail.com (Mohamed Imran K R)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:13:10 +0530
Subject: [Ambassadors] Self Introduction
Message-ID: <45F6B87E.7090402@gmail.com>
Hello
I am Mohamed Imran and i belong to the AU-KBC Research Center,
Chennai. I really admire the qualities of fedora and i have used it
right from its inception to solve my needs.
I am indebted to Fedora and i think i can contribute to its to its
growth now in a much more proactive manner by advocating it in all
forums i present myself.
Hope to work with you people to promote Fedora
Regards
Mohamed Imran K R
AU-KBC Research Centre
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From mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 14:53:13 2007
From: mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com (Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:53:13 +0800
Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi :)
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
On 3/13/07, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
> Welcome on board.
>
> Francesco Ugolini
>
On 3/13/07, Hernan Pachas wrote:
> Welcome Mohd.
>
Y'all can call me Izhar btw .. Malays have quite a long given
name ... we didnt use the firstname-lastname system .. but
givenname-fathername system .. My given name is Mohd Izhar Firdaus and
my father's name is Ismail :)
Oh ya .. I can be identified with the nick KageSenshi on IRC
nice meeting y'all :)
-----------------------------------------------
regards
Hikaru
-----------------------------------------------
Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
Amano Hikaru
??? ???? ????
Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS
ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester
mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com
-----------------------------------------------
kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com
Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com
-----------------------------------------------
From mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 14:58:25 2007
From: mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com (Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:58:25 +0800
Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi :)
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
On 3/13/07, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote:
> Y'all can call me Izhar btw .. Malays have quite a long given
s/"Malays"/"some Malays"/
sorry bout that .. thats typo might lead to misinformation
From mackay3 at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 16:08:11 2007
From: mackay3 at gmail.com (John Mackay)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:08:11 -0600
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors wiki page modify
In-Reply-To: <20070312160327.M42998@dr-hank.com>
References: <45F3F717.3080007@fedoraproject.org>
<20070312160327.M42998@dr-hank.com>
Message-ID: <5d88dfb00703130908m3c56e77dx5afaccd3bda7a8be@mail.gmail.com>
IMO the first one makes it in short description, the whole point of being
Fedora Ambassador.
The last marketing one is too vague and open =/.
On 3/12/07, Lin Juan Carlos wrote:
>
> On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:33:27 +0100, Francesco Ugolini wrote
> > At the beginning of Fedora Ambassador Wiki page there is the follow
> > sentence: "Fedora Ambassadors are people like you and me, who go to
> > places where other Linux users and potential converts gather and tell
> > them about Fedora --- the project and the distribution."
> >
> > I propose to use, instead, the
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/TalkingPoints sentence (i add
> > "Ambassadors" at the beggining):
> >
> > "Ambassadors spread the good word of Fedora. Spread the glamor. Spread
> > the action. Make waves. Encourage participation. Encourage the
> community."
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Francesco Ugolini
> > --
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
> I think that the first sentence "people like you and me" is very usefull,
> it means
> that we are not alliens.
>
> So as feeling, I do like the actual message
>
>
>
> Juan Carlos Lin
> lin at dr-hank.com
>
> --
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> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
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From mackay3 at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 16:16:08 2007
From: mackay3 at gmail.com (John Mackay)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:16:08 -0600
Subject: [Ambassadors] CLT 2007
In-Reply-To: <200703122159.23029.simon@simline.de>
References: <200703071554.05744.simon@simline.de>
<1173725256.3935.415.camel@erato.phig.org>
<369bce3b0703121157s1c07d7bdu3ed3d58df1271703@mail.gmail.com>
<200703122159.23029.simon@simline.de>
Message-ID: <5d88dfb00703130916p54e91dbbga6c9fece4d193377@mail.gmail.com>
xD. Kinda weird to go on teaching manners to grow up people, makes you
wonder what kind of education and social interaction they've been exposed
to.
On 3/12/07, simon wrote:
>
> Am Montag, 12. M?rz 2007 19:57 schrieb Thomas Chung:
> > Also please let us know how we can prevent such issue in the future.
>
> Chitlesh told him very direct what he/we think about his behavior ;-)
> But you can never prevent this, so long people are ignorant and think only
> about their own comfort.
> So the best what we can do is be a / the "good example"
>
> CU JoergSimon
>
>
>
> --
>
> J?rg Simon
> jsimon at fedoraproject.org
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon
> Key Fingerprint:
> 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688
>
> --
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> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
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From mackay3 at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 16:21:20 2007
From: mackay3 at gmail.com (John Mackay)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:21:20 -0600
Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi :)
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <5d88dfb00703130921s6a00df35se860319941608e78@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Izhar.
On 3/13/07, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote:
>
> On 3/13/07, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail
> wrote:
>
> > Y'all can call me Izhar btw .. Malays have quite a long given
>
> s/"Malays"/"some Malays"/
>
> sorry bout that .. thats typo might lead to misinformation
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
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From hanafiah at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 13 16:36:13 2007
From: hanafiah at fedoraproject.org (Hanafiah Muhamad)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:36:13 +0800
Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi :)
In-Reply-To: <5d88dfb00703130921s6a00df35se860319941608e78@mail.gmail.com>
References:
<5d88dfb00703130921s6a00df35se860319941608e78@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5028e1a00703130936k1ca2c693ub4b3b96d5b78e688@mail.gmail.com>
Selamat datang firdaus..
welcome to the team.
Hanafiah.
Fedora Ambassador for Malaysia
On 3/14/07, John Mackay wrote:
>
> Hi Izhar.
>
> On 3/13/07, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail
> wrote:
> >
> > On 3/13/07, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Y'all can call me Izhar btw .. Malays have quite a long given
> >
> > s/"Malays"/"some Malays"/
> >
> > sorry bout that .. thats typo might lead to misinformation
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> >
>
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
>
--
---
Mohd Hanafiah bin Muhamad
Fedora Ambassadors for Malaysia
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HanafiahMuhamad
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From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 17:05:32 2007
From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:05:32 +0600
Subject: [Ambassadors] Self Introduction
In-Reply-To: <45F6B87E.7090402@gmail.com>
References: <45F6B87E.7090402@gmail.com>
Message-ID:
Welcome Imran. Good wishes
On 13/03/07, Mohamed Imran K R wrote:
>
> Hello
> I am Mohamed Imran and i belong to the AU-KBC Research Center,
> Chennai. I really admire the qualities of fedora and i have used it
> right from its inception to solve my needs.
> I am indebted to Fedora and i think i can contribute to its to its
> growth now in a much more proactive manner by advocating it in all
> forums i present myself.
> Hope to work with you people to promote Fedora
>
> Regards
> Mohamed Imran K R
> AU-KBC Research Centre
>
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
>
>
--
??? ?????
mak
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From splinux at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 13 17:09:49 2007
From: splinux at fedoraproject.org (Damien Durand)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:09:49 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Self Introduction
In-Reply-To:
References: <45F6B87E.7090402@gmail.com>
Message-ID:
Welcome in the ambassador group ;-)
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From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 17:14:31 2007
From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:14:31 +0600
Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi :)
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Welcome laah :)
On 13/03/07, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote:
>
> Hello ambassadors,
>
> I'm new here ... my name is Mohd Izhar Firdaus , I'm from Malaysia and
> just joined the ambassador program.
>
> .. I'm a student in PETRONAS University of Technology taking ICT
> course .. have been slowly promoting linux, FOSS and Fedora in the
> university for a while now .. and just decided to make it official ..
>
> I still have a lot to learn .. and hope y'all can guide and help me
> through ..
>
> :D
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------
> regards
> Hikaru
> -----------------------------------------------
> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
> Amano Hikaru
> ??? ???? ????
> Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS
> ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester
> mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com
> -----------------------------------------------
> kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com
> Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
--
??? ?????
mak
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From gpex at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 13 18:10:50 2007
From: gpex at fedoraproject.org (Giuseppe Pignataro)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:10:50 +0100
Subject: R: [Ambassadors] Hi :)
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <200703131811.l2DIAuW9006337@m-02.th.seeweb.it>
Welcome!!!
Giuseppe Pignataro
http://www.giuseppepignataro.net
Fedora Core Ambassador for Italy
A KDE italian translator
Socio TAU Visual
Member of ILS
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com] Per conto di Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail
Inviato: marted? 13 marzo 2007 14.58
A: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
Oggetto: [Ambassadors] Hi :)
Hello ambassadors,
I'm new here ... my name is Mohd Izhar Firdaus , I'm from Malaysia and just joined the ambassador program.
.. I'm a student in PETRONAS University of Technology taking ICT course .. have been slowly promoting linux, FOSS and Fedora in the university for a while now .. and just decided to make it official ..
I still have a lot to learn .. and hope y'all can guide and help me through ..
:D
--
-----------------------------------------------
regards
Hikaru
-----------------------------------------------
Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
Amano Hikaru
??? ???? ????
Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS
ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester
mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com
-----------------------------------------------
kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com
Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com
-----------------------------------------------
--
Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
From dhardison at grapeape.org Tue Mar 13 18:40:50 2007
From: dhardison at grapeape.org (Douglas Hardison)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:40:50 -0400
Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction
Message-ID: <45F6F032.5040707@grapeape.org>
Hello All,
My name is Douglas Hardison. My friends all call me 'Woody'.
I have just completed my application to Fedora Amabassadors.
The nice people in #fedora on FreeNode alerted me to its existence, and
pointed me to the Ambassador HowTo.
I am 35 years old ( come this Friday ), and I currently live in Clayton,
North Carolina. Clayton is a small town just outside Raleigh.
I am recently transplanted from the city of Wilson, NC; home of the
'World's Largest Tobacco Market'.
I am married and have a seven year old daughter, and an 11 month old son.
I currently work support Linux-based network monitoring appliances.
Before that, I was an admin at a local ISP in Wilson, where I obtained
most of my Linux knowledge. Everything from email to RADIUS to web
proxies, etc...
I have been using Linux for approximately 10 years or so. I did not
start out with RedHat, but eventually ended up using RedHat 5.0. At that
time, I found it the most intuitive, *plus* easy to install distribution.
As my wiki page ( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DouglasHardison )
states, I have played with other distributions, but always return to my
roots :-)
I hope to become an active member in the Fedora community, and give back
a little of what Linux has done for me.
--Woody
From gpex at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 13 20:45:52 2007
From: gpex at fedoraproject.org (Giuseppe Pignataro)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:45:52 +0100
Subject: R: [Ambassadors] Introduction
In-Reply-To: <45F6F032.5040707@grapeape.org>
Message-ID: <200703132045.l2DKjtd6011181@m-02.th.seeweb.it>
Welcome Douglas
Giuseppe Pignataro
http://www.giuseppepignataro.net
Fedora Core Ambassador for Italy
A KDE italian translator
Socio TAU Visual
Member of ILS
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com
[mailto:fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com] Per conto di Douglas
Hardison
Inviato: marted? 13 marzo 2007 19.41
A: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
Oggetto: [Ambassadors] Introduction
Hello All,
My name is Douglas Hardison. My friends all call me 'Woody'.
I have just completed my application to Fedora Amabassadors.
The nice people in #fedora on FreeNode alerted me to its existence, and
pointed me to the Ambassador HowTo.
I am 35 years old ( come this Friday ), and I currently live in Clayton,
North Carolina. Clayton is a small town just outside Raleigh.
I am recently transplanted from the city of Wilson, NC; home of the 'World's
Largest Tobacco Market'.
I am married and have a seven year old daughter, and an 11 month old son.
I currently work support Linux-based network monitoring appliances.
Before that, I was an admin at a local ISP in Wilson, where I obtained most
of my Linux knowledge. Everything from email to RADIUS to web proxies,
etc...
I have been using Linux for approximately 10 years or so. I did not start
out with RedHat, but eventually ended up using RedHat 5.0. At that time, I
found it the most intuitive, *plus* easy to install distribution.
As my wiki page ( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DouglasHardison ) states, I
have played with other distributions, but always return to my roots :-)
I hope to become an active member in the Fedora community, and give back a
little of what Linux has done for me.
--Woody
--
Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
From jmbabich at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 03:53:11 2007
From: jmbabich at gmail.com (John Babich)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:53:11 +0300
Subject: [Ambassadors] Self Introduction
In-Reply-To: <45F6B87E.7090402@gmail.com>
References: <45F6B87E.7090402@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9d2c731f0703132053u3dde9d8bha1da72e6d78158cb@mail.gmail.com>
On 3/13/07, Mohamed Imran K R wrote:
> Hello
> I am Mohamed Imran and i belong to the AU-KBC Research Center,
> Chennai. I really admire the qualities of fedora and i have used it
> right from its inception to solve my needs.
> I am indebted to Fedora and i think i can contribute to its to its
> growth now in a much more proactive manner by advocating it in all
> forums i present myself.
> Hope to work with you people to promote Fedora
The goals of the Research Center sound quite interesting. As a fairly new
member to the Fedora Project, welcome to the Fedora Ambassadors.
John Babich
From jmbabich at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 05:34:04 2007
From: jmbabich at gmail.com (John Babich)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:34:04 +0300
Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction
In-Reply-To: <45F6F032.5040707@grapeape.org>
References: <45F6F032.5040707@grapeape.org>
Message-ID: <9d2c731f0703132234j46996aeajee5863c6e4bb1f83@mail.gmail.com>
Woody:
Welcome aboard. I also worked at a local ISP for a while. It's a great
way to get grounded in a bunch of technologies very quickly.
John Babich
On 3/13/07, Douglas Hardison wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> My name is Douglas Hardison. My friends all call me 'Woody'.
> I have just completed my application to Fedora Amabassadors.
> The nice people in #fedora on FreeNode alerted me to its existence, and
> pointed me to the Ambassador HowTo.
>
> I am 35 years old ( come this Friday ), and I currently live in Clayton,
> North Carolina. Clayton is a small town just outside Raleigh.
> I am recently transplanted from the city of Wilson, NC; home of the
> 'World's Largest Tobacco Market'.
>
> I am married and have a seven year old daughter, and an 11 month old son.
>
> I currently work support Linux-based network monitoring appliances.
> Before that, I was an admin at a local ISP in Wilson, where I obtained
> most of my Linux knowledge. Everything from email to RADIUS to web
> proxies, etc...
>
> I have been using Linux for approximately 10 years or so. I did not
> start out with RedHat, but eventually ended up using RedHat 5.0. At that
> time, I found it the most intuitive, *plus* easy to install distribution.
>
> As my wiki page ( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DouglasHardison )
> states, I have played with other distributions, but always return to my
> roots :-)
>
> I hope to become an active member in the Fedora community, and give back
> a little of what Linux has done for me.
>
> --Woody
>
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 07:31:04 2007
From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:01:04 +0530
Subject: [Ambassadors] Self Introduction
In-Reply-To: <9d2c731f0703132053u3dde9d8bha1da72e6d78158cb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <45F6B87E.7090402@gmail.com>
<9d2c731f0703132053u3dde9d8bha1da72e6d78158cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID:
Welcome...
On 14/03/07, John Babich wrote:
> On 3/13/07, Mohamed Imran K R wrote:
> > Hello
> > I am Mohamed Imran and i belong to the AU-KBC Research Center,
> > Chennai. I really admire the qualities of fedora and i have used it
> > right from its inception to solve my needs.
> > I am indebted to Fedora and i think i can contribute to its to its
> > growth now in a much more proactive manner by advocating it in all
> > forums i present myself.
> > Hope to work with you people to promote Fedora
>
> The goals of the Research Center sound quite interesting. As a fairly new
> member to the Fedora Project, welcome to the Fedora Ambassadors.
>
> John Babich
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
--
ssh
0x86DD170A
http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi
From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Wed Mar 14 11:08:07 2007
From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:08:07 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction to Fedora-fr
Message-ID: <1173870487.3426.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
OK, here is a mail to respond to several topics which seems to be in
many people minds.
*First, let me re-introduce you the Fedora-fr Community, the
"Who-are-you" question.*
Fedora-fr.org is a community website whose aim is to promote Fedora. It
is lead mostly by active Ambassadors. It is made of a forum, several
mailing lists, an IRC channel on Freenode and a local documentation
project. There are at the moment more than 9000 members subscribed to
our forums. On these forums, we help people if they have problems and
questions about the distro, obviously, but we also help people creating
their own RPM to help them participating into Fedora Extras. We have
also about 15 people contributing to the local documentation project.
Fedora-fr is also the area where French Ambassadors are altogether.
There are 13 active ambassadors. On Sundays, they meet themselves to
discuss the promotion of the distro at a local scale, but also the main
decisions taken by the Project in general.
*What are you doing?*
We are actively promoting the distribution. How are we doing this ?
First, we created a strong community website. People can share their
thoughts about Fedora, with the forums, the IRC or the blog platform.
Finally, Ambassadors and involved people also go to different events.
They first met during a big install party which happened in October
2006. And this year, Fedora was officially represented by some
ambassadors (6) at the biggest Linux event in France, Linux Solutions.
Some French Ambassadors (3) also went to FOSDEM to meet European
Ambassadors and worldwide involved people.
*What is this Fedora-fr Organisation thing?*
First, I need to explain to you how we came to this idea. There were
first requests from French people to be able to give Fedora some money.
They couldn't, as the Project does not accept gifts due to legal issues.
Then, there were several misunderstandings and little organisation (from
both side it seems), and we were invited to create our materials
locally. As nobody here wanted to spend its own money for it, we decided
that a non-profit organisation was a very good thing to do: it would
allow us to create our own materials and to be recognised as a fully
organised and legal entity both by the Fedora Project and RedHat.
Moreover, as RedHat Brandful store goodies shipping costs are completely
unaffordable by Europeans, we decided to create a webshop as well.
As you can see, everything is about promoting Fedora, as it has never
been the case elsewhere and before.
*How are you going to do it?*
As soon as the organisation will be authorised by the french
governement, we will invite people to subscribe to it, if they are
willing to. This would create a lot of money. Then, because we know that
subscriptions will slow down a day or another and because Fedora goodies
are very difficult to find in Europe, we had this webshop idea: on each
product that are going to be sold, we will get a small profit for the
organisation. Finally, we will have some money to work with, so as to
create DVDs and help people promoting the distro (by having a part of
their trip reimbursed for example).
Involved ambassadors voted for the creation of the non-profit
organisation on January 31st, during Linux Solutions event. Here are the
involved people: Thomas Canniot (myself -- president), Armel Kermorvant
(vice-president), Johan Cwislinski (treasurer), Guillaume Kulakowski
(secretary) and two others people involved in the Steering Committee,
Thierry Delmonte and Charles Vinchon.
*What do you think of Fedora Europe Infrastructure (FEI)?*
We think that Fedora Europe Infrastructure is a very good idea and we
want to take an active part in its creation. Let me explain to you how
we see things. We think that FEI has to help people organise themselves
into local non-profit organisations, mostly as we have done here in
France. If there are some money to deal with, from RedHat for example,
FEI will get the money so as to share it to non-profit organisations
which need to promote Fedora locally. If they can't / don't want to
create a non-profit organisation or if they don't want to create goodies
locally, then FEI will have goodies made for them and send to them. FEI
however should only accept large orders and not give DVDs one by one.
Local community don't need all the army with them (a big website and all
that stuff), but only a legal entity ruled by recognised rules that help
FEI understand that they are not trying to get things for themselves.
*How should FEI be organised?*
Well, I don't think it may be a good idea to have only one person
leading FEI. It may be a very good idea however that some people manage
things. At least, 3, but not more, to avoid under activity.
FEI Steering Committee should be elected by Ambassadors. And only
European Ambassadors should be allowed to be at its head (or maybe one
person from the Fedora Ambassador Project, as its leader, or even
higher, Greg or Max).
The French Ambassadors
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From dhardison at grapeape.org Wed Mar 14 12:49:03 2007
From: dhardison at grapeape.org (Douglas Hardison)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:49:03 -0400
Subject: [Ambassadors] Self Introduction
In-Reply-To: <9d2c731f0703132053u3dde9d8bha1da72e6d78158cb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <45F6B87E.7090402@gmail.com>
<9d2c731f0703132053u3dde9d8bha1da72e6d78158cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45F7EF3F.9080209@grapeape.org>
John Babich wrote:
> On 3/13/07, Mohamed Imran K R wrote:
>> Hello
>> I am Mohamed Imran and i belong to the AU-KBC Research Center,
>> Chennai. I really admire the qualities of fedora and i have used it
>> right from its inception to solve my needs.
>> I am indebted to Fedora and i think i can contribute to its to its
>> growth now in a much more proactive manner by advocating it in all
>> forums i present myself.
>> Hope to work with you people to promote Fedora
>
> The goals of the Research Center sound quite interesting. As a fairly new
> member to the Fedora Project, welcome to the Fedora Ambassadors.
>
> John Babich
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
Welcome Mohamed.
--Woody
From dhardison at grapeape.org Wed Mar 14 12:50:19 2007
From: dhardison at grapeape.org (Douglas Hardison)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:50:19 -0400
Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction
In-Reply-To: <9d2c731f0703132234j46996aeajee5863c6e4bb1f83@mail.gmail.com>
References: <45F6F032.5040707@grapeape.org>
<9d2c731f0703132234j46996aeajee5863c6e4bb1f83@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45F7EF8B.2010202@grapeape.org>
John Babich wrote:
> Woody:
>
> Welcome aboard. I also worked at a local ISP for a while. It's a great
> way to get grounded in a bunch of technologies very quickly.
>
> John Babich
>
> On 3/13/07, Douglas Hardison wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> My name is Douglas Hardison. My friends all call me 'Woody'.
>> I have just completed my application to Fedora Amabassadors.
>> The nice people in #fedora on FreeNode alerted me to its existence, and
>> pointed me to the Ambassador HowTo.
>>
>> I am 35 years old ( come this Friday ), and I currently live in Clayton,
>> North Carolina. Clayton is a small town just outside Raleigh.
>> I am recently transplanted from the city of Wilson, NC; home of the
>> 'World's Largest Tobacco Market'.
>>
>> I am married and have a seven year old daughter, and an 11 month old
>> son.
>>
>> I currently work support Linux-based network monitoring appliances.
>> Before that, I was an admin at a local ISP in Wilson, where I obtained
>> most of my Linux knowledge. Everything from email to RADIUS to web
>> proxies, etc...
>>
>> I have been using Linux for approximately 10 years or so. I did not
>> start out with RedHat, but eventually ended up using RedHat 5.0. At that
>> time, I found it the most intuitive, *plus* easy to install
>> distribution.
>>
>> As my wiki page ( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DouglasHardison )
>> states, I have played with other distributions, but always return to my
>> roots :-)
>>
>> I hope to become an active member in the Fedora community, and give back
>> a little of what Linux has done for me.
>>
>> --Woody
>>
>>
>> --
>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>>
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
John,
Ah yes, the ISP was an excellent learning ground. The phrase "trial by
fire" comes to mind.
:-)
--Woody
From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Wed Mar 14 13:48:03 2007
From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:48:03 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction to Fedora-fr
In-Reply-To: <1173870487.3426.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1173870487.3426.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1173880083.3474.21.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Le mercredi 14 mars 2007 ? 12:08 +0100, Thomas Canniot a ?crit :
> Involved ambassadors voted for the creation of the non-profit
> organisation on January 31st, during Linux Solutions event. Here are the
> involved people: Thomas Canniot (myself -- president), Armel Kermorvant
> (vice-president), Johan Cwislinski (treasurer), Guillaume Kulakowski
> (secretary) and two others people involved in the Steering Committee,
> Thierry Delmonte and Charles Vinchon.
Geez !! I forgot one of our best soldier ! Maxime Carron (of course) !
Please accept my apologise Maxime :(
Thomas
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From siddharth at techbugs.org Wed Mar 14 14:24:04 2007
From: siddharth at techbugs.org (Siddharth Upmanyu)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:54:04 +0530
Subject: [Ambassadors] Legal Stuff Regarding Non-Free/Query
Message-ID:
Hi Folks
I was going a little confused in this Non-Free and OSS mixup... to explain
my problem take a look at this small case-study..
Fact : Mp3 decoding is not legal without paying royalty fees (in some
countries)...
Case : XYZ installs FedoraCore (100% OSS Guaranteed :-) ) and installs his
fav MP3 player from say Yum or RPM download or...
Now is it illegal to :
1. Write an MP3 (decoder which is available for free download) player
2 Use this MP3 Player
3.
Regards
Siddharth
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From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 14 16:21:43 2007
From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:21:43 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction to Fedora-fr
In-Reply-To: <1173870487.3426.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1173870487.3426.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <45F82117.5070503@fedoraproject.org>
> *How should FEI be organised?*
> Well, I don't think it may be a good idea to have only one person
> leading FEI. It may be a very good idea however that some people manage
> things. At least, 3, but not more, to avoid under activity.
> FEI Steering Committee should be elected by Ambassadors. And only
> European Ambassadors should be allowed to be at its head (or maybe one
> person from the Fedora Ambassador Project, as its leader, or even
> higher, Greg or Max).
We have just European people in the FAmSCo, actually, we need an
European Leader, that will have to be a point of reference. I think that
this leader will work with other European people, who will help him if
he will need it.
For the rest, i think you are working hard. I hope you to continue in
this way :)
Regards
Francesco Ugolini
p.s. Thanks to all French Ambassadors who told us their opinion, i
encourage all the other people to share their thoughts to improve this
idea: our work is hard but it could be more simple if we work together.
From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 14 16:26:23 2007
From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:26:23 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors' meeting reminder - Thursday 15th March
14.00 UTC
Message-ID: <45F8222F.4070704@fedoraproject.org>
I want to remember all ambassadors that tomorrow there will be a meeting
at 14.00 UTC in #fedora-meeting channel.
I invite all to attend it to discuss about events, new projects etc...
Http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2007-03-15 to see the
agenda or to add new topics to this one.
Thanks for your attention
Francesco Ugolini
--
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
From justinbisted at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 17:37:53 2007
From: justinbisted at gmail.com (Justin M Bisted)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:37:53 -0500
Subject: [Ambassadors] Local group for fedora
In-Reply-To: <45F82117.5070503@fedoraproject.org>
References: <1173870487.3426.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
<45F82117.5070503@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <45F832F1.2020103@gmail.com>
I just created a group on myspace for local people in superior, WI
Duluth, MN area for fedora
http://groups.myspace.com/Superiorfedora
is the link feel free to join and spread the word I'm trying to get
people to get together and talk and mingle about fedora, linux
If you all have any other ideas that you did that can help me promote
fedora in my area let me know anything is good
Francesco Ugolini wrote:
>> *How should FEI be organised?*
>> Well, I don't think it may be a good idea to have only one person
>> leading FEI. It may be a very good idea however that some people manage
>> things. At least, 3, but not more, to avoid under activity.
>> FEI Steering Committee should be elected by Ambassadors. And only
>> European Ambassadors should be allowed to be at its head (or maybe one
>> person from the Fedora Ambassador Project, as its leader, or even
>> higher, Greg or Max).
>>
>
>
> We have just European people in the FAmSCo, actually, we need an
> European Leader, that will have to be a point of reference. I think that
> this leader will work with other European people, who will help him if
> he will need it.
>
> For the rest, i think you are working hard. I hope you to continue in
> this way :)
>
> Regards
>
> Francesco Ugolini
>
> p.s. Thanks to all French Ambassadors who told us their opinion, i
> encourage all the other people to share their thoughts to improve this
> idea: our work is hard but it could be more simple if we work together.
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
>
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From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Wed Mar 14 18:20:47 2007
From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:20:47 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors' meeting reminder - Thursday 15th March
14.00 UTC
In-Reply-To: <45F8222F.4070704@fedoraproject.org>
References: <45F8222F.4070704@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <1173896447.3474.40.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Le mercredi 14 mars 2007 ? 17:26 +0100, Francesco Ugolini a ?crit :
> I want to remember all ambassadors that tomorrow there will be a meeting
> at 14.00 UTC in #fedora-meeting channel.
>
> I invite all to attend it to discuss about events, new projects etc...
>
> Http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2007-03-15 to see the
> agenda or to add new topics to this one.
>
> Thanks for your attention
>
> Francesco Ugolini
Ok, I read this mail but I won't be able to attend as I have a class at
this time in the afternoon.
Regards,
Thomas
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From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 14 18:22:34 2007
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:52:34 +0530
Subject: [Ambassadors] Legal Stuff Regarding Non-Free/Query
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <45F83D6A.9030007@fedoraproject.org>
Siddharth Upmanyu wrote:
> Hi Folks
> I was going a little confused in this Non-Free and OSS mixup... to
> explain my problem take a look at this small case-study..
>
> Fact : Mp3 decoding is not legal without paying royalty fees (in some
> countries)...
>
> Case : XYZ installs FedoraCore (100% OSS Guaranteed :-) ) and installs
> his fav MP3 player from say Yum or RPM download or...
>
> Now is it illegal to :
> 1. Write an MP3 (decoder which is available for free download) player
> 2 Use this MP3 Player
> 3.
IANAL but the situation is a bit complex and would require understanding
of several concepts. Software can be protected via three things
1) Copyright license
2) Trademarks
3) Patents
For a short discourse on how they differ you can hear it from a actual
lawyer.
http://www.redhat.com/magazine/007may05/features/ip/
In a region which recognized and allows software patents like in US, you
can have a entirely Free and open source software and still be
restricted by patents. In such regions MP3 as a technology has
restrictions. Writing a software that infringes on a patent should be ok
as long as you dont redistribute it to a third party with appropriate
patent licenses. Even when you do have patent licenses you might be
infrigning on other similar patents for the same technology.
http://www.oreillynet.com/digitalmedia/blog/2007/02/microsoft_must_pay_in_mp3_laws.html
Using a MP3 player is restricted or allowed depending on whether it is
commercial or private use. In India or other regions which dont
recognize software patents either of these activities are completely legal.
Rahul
From rdieter at math.unl.edu Wed Mar 14 21:36:33 2007
From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:36:33 -0500
Subject: [Ambassadors] Legal Stuff Regarding Non-Free/Query
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <45F86AE1.9070409@math.unl.edu>
Siddharth Upmanyu wrote:
> Fact : Mp3 decoding is not legal without paying royalty fees (in some
> countries)...
>
> Case : XYZ installs FedoraCore (100% OSS Guaranteed :-) ) and installs
> his fav MP3 player from say Yum or RPM download or...
>
> Now is it illegal to :
> 1. Write an MP3 (decoder which is available for free download) player
> 2 Use this MP3 Player
> 3.
1. write? ok, as long as you don't share it. :)
2. use? probably not, but no one will probably care.
3. (you missed) (re)distributing said mp3 encoder/decoder, illegal, tied
to your "Fact" above.
-- Rex
From rdieter at math.unl.edu Wed Mar 14 21:44:41 2007
From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:44:41 -0500
Subject: [Ambassadors] Legal Stuff Regarding Non-Free/Query
In-Reply-To: <45F86AE1.9070409@math.unl.edu>
References:
<45F86AE1.9070409@math.unl.edu>
Message-ID: <45F86CC9.1070500@math.unl.edu>
Rex Dieter wrote:
> Siddharth Upmanyu wrote:
>> Now is it illegal to :
>> 1. Write an MP3 (decoder which is available for free download) player
>> 2 Use this MP3 Player
>> 3.
>
> 1. write? ok, as long as you don't share it. :)
> 2. use? probably not, but no one will probably care.
Clarifcation: you can get free/legal mp3 decoding, provided it's
properly licensed and paid for, e.g.
http://www.fluendo.com/press/releases/PR-2005-05.html
> 3. (you missed) (re)distributing said mp3 encoder/decoder, illegal, tied
> to your "Fact" above.
Addendum: Illegal for a US-based company/group, like Fedora, without
paying licensing fees.
-- Rex
From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Thu Mar 15 07:47:29 2007
From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:47:29 +0900
Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-freemedia-list] Fedora Free Media Program
Donation
In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0703141047w711b0526u56e80ae76c188343@mail.gmail.com>
References: <369bce3b0703141047w711b0526u56e80ae76c188343@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1173944849.8031.0.camel@strikeforce.mwiriadi.id.au>
On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 10:47 -0700, Thomas Chung wrote:
> All,
>
> Max approved accepting donation for Fedora Free Media Program.
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/Donation
>
> This is another way to improve our program and provide users a way to
> contribute back without joining our program to burn and ship media by
> themselves.
>
> Regards.
Could we add a link to the word paypal for those people that don't know
where to go.
Regards,
Marc
From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 15 12:27:47 2007
From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:27:47 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Legal Stuff Regarding Non-Free/Query
In-Reply-To: <45F83D6A.9030007@fedoraproject.org>
References:
<45F83D6A.9030007@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703150527o43a0d369yba620e9e5a141f7b@mail.gmail.com>
On 3/14/07, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> In a region which recognized and allows software patents like in US, you
> can have a entirely Free and open source software and still be
> restricted by patents. In such regions MP3 as a technology has
> restrictions. Writing a software that infringes on a patent should be ok
> as long as you dont redistribute it to a third party with appropriate
> patent licenses. Even when you do have patent licenses you might be
> infrigning on other similar patents for the same technology.
>
> http://www.oreillynet.com/digitalmedia/blog/2007/02/microsoft_must_pay_in_mp3_laws.html
>
> Using a MP3 player is restricted or allowed depending on whether it is
> commercial or private use. In India or other regions which dont
> recognize software patents either of these activities are completely legal.
Rahul, can you document it properly on
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Multimedia/MP3 plz?
And possibly add a link to
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Multimedia/fluendo-mp3 as well :)
regards,
Chitlesh
--
http://clunixchit.blogspot.com
From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 15 12:38:34 2007
From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:38:34 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] French Meeting
In-Reply-To: <1173640699.3495.31.camel@localhost.localdomain>
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On 3/11/07, Thomas Canniot wrote:
> Hello everybody, I would like to know what implication would it require
> for French Ambassadors to hold their Sunday meeting on #fedora-meeting
> instead of our local channel ?
Hello there,
It's been 4 days now since you posted, no one was against. So I would
say, yes you can :)
On fedoraproject.org/people, there are already french articles on the
feed for about a year now. At the same time, the french community is
pretty active. Thereby, I see no reason why those french meetings
can't be done on #fedora-meeting.
I would also welcome the fact that the french-amba meetings be held as
from this sunday. If one objects, now is the time !
regards,
Chitlesh
--
http://clunixchit.blogspot.com
From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 15 12:46:16 2007
From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:46:16 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Linux+ Magazine
In-Reply-To: <45E8C1B8.4030709@projetofedora.org>
References: <45E8C1B8.4030709@projetofedora.org>
Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703150546w7f04e257pb5ea87b63a14f38e@mail.gmail.com>
On 3/3/07, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote:
> Hi!! Linux+ special edition about Fedora Core 6
> Article to download:
> http://www.lpmagazine.org/en/linuxplus/issues/1_2007.html
Hello Rodrigo,
can you add a link to the article on
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/PressArchive ?
regards,
Chitlesh
--
http://clunixchit.blogspot.com
From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 15 12:58:06 2007
From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:58:06 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
In-Reply-To: <1173398011.7379.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References:
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<1173398011.7379.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703150558y7a5dfabdmf8a0dc7299b5db79@mail.gmail.com>
Hello there,
It's been a week now since constructive comments are no longer roaming
in this thread.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/Europe
Now, here is a list of those contructive comments:
(Discussed on 08 Mar 07 Meeting:)
1) a swiss bank account (proposed by JoergSimon)
o before or after LinuxTag ? - not yet decided - ChitleshGoorah
o Austria is also nice with tax! - ClausReheis
2) 214? from CLT by ChitleshGoorah and JoergSimon - first deposit as
an example to follow
3) Executive will possess account data and id in shops which will be
useful to produce swags or dvds (proposed by JoergSimon)
4) a non profit organisation, and sell things through a shop, there
are no tax at all normally (or at least in france)- ThomasCanniot
5) bank account managed by a legal entity (not by an individual) -
ThomasCanniot
Any one who proposed one/more idea(s) has anything new to add or
inform people on this list?
This infrastructure is targetted to Europeans at the moment, however
this doesn't mean that non-europeans can't suggest or say anything :)
Everyone on this ML can express his/her views to push this
infrastructure forward and perhaps as a model to follow if it
succeeds.
regards,
Chitlesh
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From lxtnow at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 15:21:43 2007
From: lxtnow at gmail.com (SmootherFrOgZ)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:21:43 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] French Meeting
In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0703150538na229ef1v6c854aa722f86674@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1173640699.3495.31.camel@localhost.localdomain>
<13dbfe4f0703150538na229ef1v6c854aa722f86674@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <62bc09df0703150821v707d8566hf8b17c9773bcf14b@mail.gmail.com>
2007/3/15, Chitlesh GOORAH :
>
> On 3/11/07, Thomas Canniot wrote:
> > Hello everybody, I would like to know what implication would it require
> > for French Ambassadors to hold their Sunday meeting on #fedora-meeting
> > instead of our local channel ?
>
> Hello there,
>
> It's been 4 days now since you posted, no one was against. So I would
> say, yes you can :)
>
> On fedoraproject.org/people, there are already french articles on the
> feed for about a year now. At the same time, the french community is
> pretty active. Thereby, I see no reason why those french meetings
> can't be done on #fedora-meeting.
>
> I would also welcome the fact that the french-amba meetings be held as
> from this sunday. If one objects, now is the time !
>
> regards,
> Chitlesh
> --
> http://clunixchit.blogspot.com
>
> --
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> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
I'm Agree with that, this channel has been ctreated to centralize all
project meeting into only one channel
And #fedora-mktg-fr is one of them.
Like that everyone will be able to hang knowledge of our objectives and work
outside of French Community.
One thing i know it's that pleople who participe and take part of the
meeting ( such as packaging meeting)
Talk with "voice" mode.
I don't know if it's the same rules for all project meeting.......?
--
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From: fabian at bernewireless.net (fabian at bernewireless.net)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:51:33 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
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<1173398011.7379.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
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Zitat von Chitlesh GOORAH :
> Now, here is a list of those contructive comments:
> (Discussed on 08 Mar 07 Meeting:)
> 1) a swiss bank account (proposed by JoergSimon)
> o before or after LinuxTag ? - not yet decided - ChitleshGoorah
> o Austria is also nice with tax! - ClausReheis
The goods and services tax (aka MwSt or VAT) is in Switzerland 7,6 %. This
is much lower as in Germany (19 %) or Austria (20 %). Please correct me when
I'm wrong. But this is only one side. Switzerland is not a Member of the EU
(sometimes are there problems with the delivery over the european borders)
and the costs for bank tansactions are around 3-5? (transaction from a swiss
account to an account in Germany). But the "bank secret" (Bankgeheimnis) is
known worldwide.
> 2) 214? from CLT by ChitleshGoorah and JoergSimon - first deposit as
> an example to follow
good idea :-)
> 4) a non profit organisation, and sell things through a shop, there
> are no tax at all normally (or at least in france)- ThomasCanniot
About this point. I will try to find out how this is in Switzerland.
> 5) bank account managed by a legal entity (not by an individual) -
> ThomasCanniot
I agree with Thomas. Maybe there is a way that Red Hat Switzerland (or
elsewhere) will open an account in the name of the Fedora project and
two or three ambassadors (from different countries) are responsible for
this account.
This are just my thoughts...
regards,
Fabian
From gerold at lugd.org Thu Mar 15 16:09:02 2007
From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:09:02 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
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All ...
... maybe we should stop discuss here in the ML because imho I think, we
should discuss this point at the next FAD EMEA (2007-05-29) in
Berlin ...
Please don't misunderstood me, I don't want you to stop conversation or
discussing by ML, but I personally think this issue has to be discussed
face-to-face in a short timeframe ...
This is to important and has too much influence to the whole project in
Germany and to be honest whole Europe.
And elsewhere my first idea was also to follow the "french idea" and
after sleeping one night, I can't follow on this way because .....
.... argh; can I explain my concerns at the FAD, please????
Thanks
Gerold
Am Donnerstag, den 15.03.2007, 16:51 +0100 schrieb
fabian at bernewireless.net:
> Zitat von Chitlesh GOORAH :
>
> > Now, here is a list of those contructive comments:
> > (Discussed on 08 Mar 07 Meeting:)
> > 1) a swiss bank account (proposed by JoergSimon)
> > o before or after LinuxTag ? - not yet decided - ChitleshGoorah
> > o Austria is also nice with tax! - ClausReheis
>
> The goods and services tax (aka MwSt or VAT) is in Switzerland 7,6 %. This
> is much lower as in Germany (19 %) or Austria (20 %). Please correct me when
> I'm wrong. But this is only one side. Switzerland is not a Member of the EU
> (sometimes are there problems with the delivery over the european borders)
> and the costs for bank tansactions are around 3-5? (transaction from a swiss
> account to an account in Germany). But the "bank secret" (Bankgeheimnis) is
> known worldwide.
>
> > 2) 214? from CLT by ChitleshGoorah and JoergSimon - first deposit as
> > an example to follow
>
> good idea :-)
>
> > 4) a non profit organisation, and sell things through a shop, there
> > are no tax at all normally (or at least in france)- ThomasCanniot
>
> About this point. I will try to find out how this is in Switzerland.
>
> > 5) bank account managed by a legal entity (not by an individual) -
> > ThomasCanniot
>
> I agree with Thomas. Maybe there is a way that Red Hat Switzerland (or
> elsewhere) will open an account in the name of the Fedora project and
> two or three ambassadors (from different countries) are responsible for
> this account.
>
> This are just my thoughts...
>
> regards,
>
> Fabian
>
>
>
>
>
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> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
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From fabian at bernewireless.net Thu Mar 15 16:40:29 2007
From: fabian at bernewireless.net (Fabian Affolter)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:40:29 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] CLA in german
Message-ID: <20070315174029.xyrgzuga8s4gcc4s@login-15.hoststar.ch>
Hi,
During the 1. FAD in december 2006 was a short discussion about the
translation of the CLA. Here is the german version now. Don't worry it's
not my work. A professional translater has done it for me.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Licenses/CLA/GermanCLA
Please proofread it. Thanks
regards,
Fabian
From ncorrare at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 15 17:18:20 2007
From: ncorrare at fedoraproject.org (Nicolas Antonio Corrarello)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:18:20 -0300
Subject: [Ambassadors] The faces of the FedoraProject
Message-ID: <45F97FDC.9030407@fedoraproject.org>
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I think is very important for everyone to put a face on every name, to
give a more human approach, as it is discussed on in the MustHave .
Even if i got it wrong, it would be nice to see a picture of each one of
us in the PersonalPages, so I'd like to encourage everyone to do it.
I started with mine http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NicolasCorrarello ,
you can e-mail me to say how ugly or goofy I look :D
Y.S.
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From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 15 18:37:51 2007
From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:37:51 -0700
Subject: [Ambassadors] Legal Stuff Regarding Non-Free/Query
In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0703150527o43a0d369yba620e9e5a141f7b@mail.gmail.com>
References:
<45F83D6A.9030007@fedoraproject.org>
<13dbfe4f0703150527o43a0d369yba620e9e5a141f7b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <369bce3b0703151137g6d817133xc43ab7351e189c1d@mail.gmail.com>
On 3/15/07, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
> Rahul, can you document it properly on
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Multimedia/MP3 plz?
>
> And possibly add a link to
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Multimedia/fluendo-mp3 as well :)
>
> regards,
> Chitlesh
Thank you for pointing that out.
I've linked from mp3 to fluendo-mp3
Regards,
--
Thomas Chung
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung
From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 15 19:02:28 2007
From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:02:28 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] The faces of the FedoraProject
In-Reply-To: <45F97FDC.9030407@fedoraproject.org>
References: <45F97FDC.9030407@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <45F99844.9010004@fedoraproject.org>
You can just see the event photos, you will find many people there.
I think it's the best way because people can see we are together.
Regards
Francesco Ugolini
p.s. you can find somephoto where i am in FAD EMEA and FOSDEM 2007 photos.
Nicolas Antonio Corrarello ha scritto:
> I think is very important for everyone to put a face on every name, to
> give a more human approach, as it is discussed on in the MustHave .
> Even if i got it wrong, it would be nice to see a picture of each one of
> us in the PersonalPages, so I'd like to encourage everyone to do it.
>
> I started with mine http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NicolasCorrarello ,
> you can e-mail me to say how ugly or goofy I look :D
>
> Y.S.
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From mackay3 at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 21:27:40 2007
From: mackay3 at gmail.com (John Mackay)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:27:40 -0600
Subject: [Ambassadors] The faces of the FedoraProject
In-Reply-To: <45F99844.9010004@fedoraproject.org>
References: <45F97FDC.9030407@fedoraproject.org>
<45F99844.9010004@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <5d88dfb00703151427k7bc2a538v74d631f28404868b@mail.gmail.com>
Maybe the people who works at the wiki can set it up as a new field of the
user register.
How do you request such a feature?
On 3/15/07, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
>
> You can just see the event photos, you will find many people there.
>
> I think it's the best way because people can see we are together.
>
> Regards
>
> Francesco Ugolini
> p.s. you can find somephoto where i am in FAD EMEA and FOSDEM 2007 photos.
>
> Nicolas Antonio Corrarello ha scritto:
> > I think is very important for everyone to put a face on every name, to
> > give a more human approach, as it is discussed on in the MustHave .
> > Even if i got it wrong, it would be nice to see a picture of each one of
> > us in the PersonalPages, so I'd like to encourage everyone to do it.
> >
> > I started with mine http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NicolasCorrarello ,
> > you can e-mail me to say how ugly or goofy I look :D
> >
> > Y.S.
>
> --
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> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
>
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From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 15 21:33:31 2007
From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:33:31 -0700
Subject: [Ambassadors] The faces of the FedoraProject
In-Reply-To: <5d88dfb00703151427k7bc2a538v74d631f28404868b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <45F97FDC.9030407@fedoraproject.org>
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Message-ID: <369bce3b0703151433n62c47416ne9565950f761792e@mail.gmail.com>
On 3/15/07, John Mackay wrote:
> Maybe the people who works at the wiki can set it up as a new field of the
> user register.
> How do you request such a feature?
I just learned fedora-websites team is adding
"FirstnameLastname-head.png" in the HomepageTemplage.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HomepageTemplate
Best place to disucss is fedora-website-list.
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Regards,
--
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http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung
From nayyares at gmail.com Fri Mar 16 08:48:25 2007
From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:48:25 +0200
Subject: [Ambassadors] wants to update my info
Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30703160148o2660939fgcf1bf7a7c17009a9@mail.gmail.com>
Heya guys!
i have been off screen for a long time, now have been moved to South Africa
and working as Data Center Consultant with a company, i want to edit my
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NayyarAhmad info ,but my apologies unable to
find the way, please point me to some howto.
regards
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From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Fri Mar 16 14:09:00 2007
From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:09:00 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] CLA in german
In-Reply-To: <20070315174029.xyrgzuga8s4gcc4s@login-15.hoststar.ch>
References: <20070315174029.xyrgzuga8s4gcc4s@login-15.hoststar.ch>
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Le jeudi 15 mars 2007 ? 17:40 +0100, Fabian Affolter a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> During the 1. FAD in december 2006 was a short discussion about the
> translation of the CLA. Here is the german version now. Don't worry it's
> not my work. A professional translater has done it for me.
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Licenses/CLA/GermanCLA
>
> Please proofread it. Thanks
>
> regards,
>
> Fabian
>
>
Well, I don't know if translating a licence can be considered as valid.
In French, a licence / law translation is not considered as valid due to
numerous misinterpretations.
Cheers.
Thomas
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From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Fri Mar 16 14:09:00 2007
From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:09:00 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] CLA in german
In-Reply-To: <20070315174029.xyrgzuga8s4gcc4s@login-15.hoststar.ch>
References: <20070315174029.xyrgzuga8s4gcc4s@login-15.hoststar.ch>
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Le jeudi 15 mars 2007 ? 17:40 +0100, Fabian Affolter a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
> During the 1. FAD in december 2006 was a short discussion about the
> translation of the CLA. Here is the german version now. Don't worry it's
> not my work. A professional translater has done it for me.
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Licenses/CLA/GermanCLA
>
> Please proofread it. Thanks
>
> regards,
>
> Fabian
>
>
Well, I don't know if translating a licence can be considered as valid.
In French, a licence / law translation is not considered as valid due to
numerous misinterpretations.
Cheers.
Thomas
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From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Fri Mar 16 14:19:27 2007
From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:19:27 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
In-Reply-To: <1173974942.3718.11.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local>
References:
<13dbfe4f0703081356p25fee12dt597e073bcaa5a823@mail.gmail.com>
<1173398011.7379.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
<13dbfe4f0703150558y7a5dfabdmf8a0dc7299b5db79@mail.gmail.com>
<20070315165133.eyonzhb74sw8ssc4@login-15.hoststar.ch>
<1173974942.3718.11.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local>
Message-ID: <1174054767.4475.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Le jeudi 15 mars 2007 ? 17:09 +0100, Gerold Kassube a ?crit :
> All ...
>
> ... maybe we should stop discuss here in the ML because imho I think, we
> should discuss this point at the next FAD EMEA (2007-05-29) in
> Berlin ...
>
> Please don't misunderstood me, I don't want you to stop conversation or
> discussing by ML, but I personally think this issue has to be discussed
> face-to-face in a short timeframe ...
>
> This is to important and has too much influence to the whole project in
> Germany and to be honest whole Europe.
>
> And elsewhere my first idea was also to follow the "french idea" and
> after sleeping one night, I can't follow on this way because .....
>
> .... argh; can I explain my concerns at the FAD, please????
>
>
We could, but as long as everybody may not attend the FAD...
Thomas
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From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 16 15:21:59 2007
From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:21:59 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
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I think that people interested in this discussion will join FAD :)
Regards
Francesco Ugolini
Thomas Canniot ha scritto:
> Le jeudi 15 mars 2007 ? 17:09 +0100, Gerold Kassube a ?crit :
>> All ...
>>
>> ... maybe we should stop discuss here in the ML because imho I think, we
>> should discuss this point at the next FAD EMEA (2007-05-29) in
>> Berlin ...
>>
>> Please don't misunderstood me, I don't want you to stop conversation or
>> discussing by ML, but I personally think this issue has to be discussed
>> face-to-face in a short timeframe ...
>>
>> This is to important and has too much influence to the whole project in
>> Germany and to be honest whole Europe.
>>
>> And elsewhere my first idea was also to follow the "french idea" and
>> after sleeping one night, I can't follow on this way because .....
>>
>> .... argh; can I explain my concerns at the FAD, please????
>>
>>
> We could, but as long as everybody may not attend the FAD...
>
> Thomas
>
>
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From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 16 17:47:26 2007
From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:47:26 -0700
Subject: [Ambassadors] wants to update my info
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On 3/16/07, Nayyar Ahmed wrote:
> Heya guys!
>
> i have been off screen for a long time, now have been moved to South Africa
> and working as Data Center Consultant with a company, i want to edit my
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NayyarAhmad info ,but my
> apologies unable to find the way, please point me to some howto.
>
> regards
>
> --
> Nayyar Ahmad
Hi Nayyar,
Please contact me off list. I'll help you.
Regards,
--
Thomas Chung
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung
From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Fri Mar 16 17:58:23 2007
From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:58:23 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
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Le vendredi 16 mars 2007 ? 16:21 +0100, Francesco Ugolini a ?crit :
> I think that people interested in this discussion will join FAD :)
>
> Regards
>
> Francesco Ugolini
Then you are assuming that people who won't go to FAD are NOT interested
in FEI.
Let me tell you that this is completely the worse behaviour to have.
Let's close the mailing list and only organise meeting *somewhere* in
Europe / USA / Asia. This will help coordinating the effort worldwild
this way...
But remember that if you don't go to Asia, it's because you are not
interested in.
Cheers,
Thomas
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From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 16 18:02:50 2007
From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:02:50 -0700
Subject: [Ambassadors] CLA in german
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On 3/16/07, Thomas Canniot wrote:
> Le jeudi 15 mars 2007 ? 17:40 +0100, Fabian Affolter a ?crit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > During the 1. FAD in december 2006 was a short discussion about the
> > translation of the CLA. Here is the german version now. Don't worry it's
> > not my work. A professional translater has done it for me.
> >
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/Licenses/CLA/GermanCLA
> >
> > Please proofread it. Thanks
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Fabian
> >
> >
>
>
> Well, I don't know if translating a licence can be considered as valid.
> In French, a licence / law translation is not considered as valid due to
> numerous misinterpretations.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Thomas
True. I would suggest to check with Max and Red Hat Legal Counsel.
Regards,
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Thomas Chung
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung
From gerold at lugd.org Fri Mar 16 18:25:23 2007
From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:25:23 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
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Thomas,
the FAD should _NOT_ be a further step in closing something, it should
be a additional step to get in touch, to discuss things much better than
over the ML.
Here at a FAD you have all persons at a table who should be effected to
any issue which is on the agenda (and not on it) ..
Am Freitag, den 16.03.2007, 18:58 +0100 schrieb Thomas Canniot:
> Le vendredi 16 mars 2007 ? 16:21 +0100, Francesco Ugolini a ?crit :
> > I think that people interested in this discussion will join FAD :)
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Francesco Ugolini
>
> Then you are assuming that people who won't go to FAD are NOT interested
> in FEI.
>
> Let me tell you that this is completely the worse behaviour to have.
>
> Let's close the mailing list and only organise meeting *somewhere* in
> Europe / USA / Asia. This will help coordinating the effort worldwild
> this way...
>
> But remember that if you don't go to Asia, it's because you are not
> interested in.
The Fedora Ambassador Day (FAD) is where Ambassadors and other
interested members of the Fedora Community come together to plan for
future Fedora events and get to know each other. We plan to have a FAD,
usually in connection with other Fedora events, in each region once per
year.
out of http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD
Friendly yours
Gerold
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From fabian at bernewireless.net Fri Mar 16 18:35:25 2007
From: fabian at bernewireless.net (Fabian Affolter)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:35:25 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] CLA in german
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Thomas Canniot schrieb:
> Well, I don't know if translating a licence can be considered as valid.
> In French, a licence / law translation is not considered as valid due to
> numerous misinterpretations.
It's a translation of a very complex text and in my eyes it's haven't to
be vaild (see below). It's hard to understand even in german. For
non-english speaking constributor it's the only way to become an
impression of the content of CLA.
The translator has made it clear in the into:
"Als Grundlage f?r einen Vertrag gilt ausschliesslich die
englischsprachige Originalversion des CLA."
"The basis for a contract is considered exclusively the english original
version of the CLA."
and at the end:
"Diese ?bersetzung ist kein rechtskr?ftiger Ersatz f?r die
englischsprachige Originalversion."
"This translation is not a valid replacement for the english original
version."
regards,
Fabian
From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Fri Mar 16 18:51:29 2007
From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:51:29 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
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Le vendredi 16 mars 2007 ? 19:25 +0100, Gerold Kassube a ?crit :
> Thomas,
>
> the FAD should _NOT_ be a further step in closing something, it should
> be a additional step to get in touch, to discuss things much better than
> over the ML.
>
> Here at a FAD you have all persons at a table who should be effected to
> any issue which is on the agenda (and not on it) ..
I know, but I don't think it is acceptable to stay without a word on
this subject for more than 2 months.
>
> The Fedora Ambassador Day (FAD) is where Ambassadors and other
> interested members of the Fedora Community come together to plan for
> future Fedora events and get to know each other. We plan to have a FAD,
> usually in connection with other Fedora events, in each region once per
> year.
>
> out of http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD
I know :) I was just saying so because Francesco answer is very weird.
Cheers,
Thomas
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From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 16 19:52:18 2007
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:22:18 +0530
Subject: [Ambassadors] CLA in german
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Fabian Affolter wrote:
> Thomas Canniot schrieb:
>> Well, I don't know if translating a licence can be considered as valid.
>> In French, a licence / law translation is not considered as valid due to
>> numerous misinterpretations.
>
> It's a translation of a very complex text and in my eyes it's haven't to
> be vaild (see below). It's hard to understand even in german. For
> non-english speaking constributor it's the only way to become an
> impression of the content of CLA.
>
> The translator has made it clear in the into:
>
> "Als Grundlage f?r einen Vertrag gilt ausschliesslich die
> englischsprachige Originalversion des CLA."
>
> "The basis for a contract is considered exclusively the english original
> version of the CLA."
>
> and at the end:
>
> "Diese ?bersetzung ist kein rechtskr?ftiger Ersatz f?r die
> englischsprachige Originalversion."
>
> "This translation is not a valid replacement for the english original
> version."
To add to that, you can add a prominent disclaimer on top "In case of a
contradiction between the Official English version of the contributory
license agreement and the community German translation, the English
version must be considered authoritative. This translation is only
available to help German users understand the CLA and must not be
considered as a legal document". In German of course.
Rahul
From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sat Mar 17 00:07:37 2007
From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:07:37 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
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Hello there,
On 3/16/07, Gerold Kassube wrote:
> Here at a FAD you have all persons at a table who should be effected to
> any issue which is on the agenda (and not on it) ..
Sure, it is always best to have all concerned and active contributors
around the table. But unfortunately, for some reason or another not
every concerned and active contributor can be present and thus it will
be unfair for them. I might be such contributor who will miss Linuxtag
2007. So then, according to what you said gerold, my views won't
matter since I'll be absent. :(
> > Le vendredi 16 mars 2007 ? 16:21 +0100, Francesco Ugolini a ?crit :
> > > I think that people interested in this discussion will join FAD :)
> Am Freitag, den 16.03.2007, 18:58 +0100 schrieb Thomas Canniot:
> > Then you are assuming that people who won't go to FAD are NOT interested
> > in FEI.
> >
> > Let me tell you that this is completely the worse behaviour to have.
ThomasCanniot is right here. Like I said above, this will be
summarized that I'm not interested in FEI, which is not true.
Now by how latest comments were brought forward, we will be doing the
_same mistake_ I did for FOSDEM.
I've now realised that A big Fedora Event doesn't implicate only
fedora ambassadors, but fedora contributors also.
Fedora Ambassadors should work with other projects and give the
latter's contributors the chance as well during any Fedora Event to
participate. If there is a big Fedora Event then it's also the time
for contributors of different fedora projects to talk:
- among themselves (with contributors of the same fedora project) -
e.g FAD, doc meeting, packaging meeting...
- with upstream present at the event
- with actual partners (if the particular project is working with
other distributions)
- with possible new contacts with other distributions
In the end, i want to converge to one point that in such big Fedora
Event, there isn't enough time to talk about everything. Let's spare
time if we can, because it will only benefit fedora in overall.
Most Fedora Ambassadors are not only dedicated to the Fedora
Ambassadors Project, but do also contribute on other Fedora Projects
such as KDE, FreeMedia, Documentations, Websites .......
During a Big Fedora Event it's also time for them to meet and discuss
their fedora projects as well.
(by Fedora Events, I mean those listed in wiki/FedoraEvents)
#001: Before FOSDEM FredericHornain said:
""PS: You know it is the first time that a lot Fedora people come to
Fosdem so everything can not be perfect. I am pretty sure that we will
do better organization next year.""
We tried to do our best on the mailing list and discussed many things
just to make the event successful. And it was.
At FOSDEM, I wanted to get the FEI discussed and started.
Unfortunately, we couldn't. Pushing some interesting goals for a later
schedule will lead to a delay in the process, which is unfortunate,
because we have some potential to make things happen ASAP.
#002: Though, sometimes I don't agree at 100% with RahulSundaram's
comments, he does lay down new fields that we didn't think that need
to be exploited. Since, possibly he can't attend LinuxtagBerlin, we
will miss his comments as well as ThomasChung's for the FEI's setup.
I prefer to discuss things here on this mailing list in order to allow
everyone's to participate and at the same time, let others
(none-concerned) to take the FEI as example if FEI is proved to be
successful. Yet another way of mentoring which was discussed during
the last FAD.
#003 ThomasCanniot's recent mail on the French status on FEI showed a
different opinion compared to that of the german's. Yes, it is a fact.
Perhaps, we may never converge to certain agreement on a common
ground. But in fact for fedora's sake, we have to converge to a
certain agreement.
Yes, in order to hear the different views of "concerned" contributors,
it's better to hear it before the LinuxtagBerlin, so that at Linuxtag
a decison could be taken and FEI kick off. But if we listen to
everyone's views at Linuxtag, it will make FEI's setup a lengthier
process.
I still welcome any ambassador to express his/her views about the FEI.
My wish:
Before Linuxtag,
1) discuss and listen views of concerned contributors
2) discuss and listen views of NON concerned contributors (however
everyone in this mailing list is concerned since it is Fedora
Ambassador PRoject related)
3) setup a proposal of who should be the Executive of FEI
4) know whether MaxSpevack still care to give the budget or not
5) listen to everyone from an _objective_ point of view
6) document on legal issues - at Linuxtag, it will be on the fly, and
you will agree with me it isn't appropriate at that time
During Linuxtag,
7) bring forward a summary of what has been discussed
8) assign Executives
9) (things what I missed)
After Linuxtag, FEI be kick off and everyone is happy.
regards,
Chitlesh
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From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 07:31:39 2007
From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:01:39 +0530
Subject: [Ambassadors] Need a few points..
Message-ID:
Dear *,
Can anybody please give me a few point/link why people should contribute to
fedora and overall GNU/Linux? I mean something what will affect the
listeners instantly and make them thinking of contributing...
Apart from what is mentioned in the overview page,of course.
--
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0x86DD170A
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From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 10:01:50 2007
From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:01:50 +0600
Subject: [Ambassadors] Need a few points..
In-Reply-To:
References:
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the first man to invent fire... practiced the Open Source philosophy.
If he would kept it as business secret, the human race would not have
developed much.
the way you wear trousers, if it wasn't Open Source, just imagine you
have to pay each time you wore those pairs of your pajamas; or better
be nude ;)
So, why not in software... the same practice?
On 17/03/07, susmit shannigrahi wrote:
> Dear *,
> Can anybody please give me a few point/link why people should contribute to
> fedora and overall GNU/Linux? I mean something what will affect the
> listeners instantly and make them thinking of contributing...
> Apart from what is mentioned in the overview page,of course.
>
> --
> ssh
> 0x86DD170A
> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi
>
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>
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From robert at fedoraproject.org Sat Mar 17 12:10:55 2007
From: robert at fedoraproject.org (Robert Scheck)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:10:55 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
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Hello folks,
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, fabian at bernewireless.net wrote:
> The goods and services tax (aka MwSt or VAT) is in Switzerland 7,6 %. This
> is much lower as in Germany (19 %) or Austria (20 %). Please correct me when
> I'm wrong. But this is only one side. Switzerland is not a Member of the EU
> (sometimes are there problems with the delivery over the european borders)
> and the costs for bank tansactions are around 3-5? (transaction from a swiss
> account to an account in Germany). But the "bank secret" (Bankgeheimnis) is
> known worldwide.
As far as I know, you a) can't simply open an account at a Swiss bank and
b) you already need money at the opening to pay in. And I'm not talking
about 50 or 100 Euro here. But finally, I've got no Swiss bank account, so
I'm not sure, whether my information are correct.
> I agree with Thomas. Maybe there is a way that Red Hat Switzerland (or
> elsewhere) will open an account in the name of the Fedora project and
> two or three ambassadors (from different countries) are responsible for
> this account.
Opening an account by the help of e.g. Red Hat Switzerland in the name of
the Fedora Project sounds well to me, but it could get interesting as the
Swiss banks are distrustful for usual because of money laundering. But as
said before, I didn't open such an account; it's just what I know. People
from Switzerland, please correct me if I'm wrong somewhere...
Greetings,
Robert
From guillaume.kulakowski at fedoraproject.org Sat Mar 17 12:13:36 2007
From: guillaume.kulakowski at fedoraproject.org (Guillaume Kulakowsi)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:13:36 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Proposal: Fedora European Infrastructure
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Francesco Ugolini a ?crit :
> I think that people interested in this discussion will join FAD :)
I will make all my possible because I am very interested by a FEI
Thomas Canniot a ?crit :
> I know, but I don't think it is acceptable to stay without a word on
> this subject for more than 2 months.
+1
It is necessary to advance a maximum to arrive there with solid bases.
- --
Guillaume Kulakowski
French Fedora Ambassador
Webmaster of the French Fedora Core related website
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From siddharth at techbugs.org Sat Mar 17 14:21:45 2007
From: siddharth at techbugs.org (Siddharth Upmanyu)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:51:45 +0530
Subject: [Ambassadors] Need a few points..
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
----------
While initiating the GNU Project, RMS wrote:
"From: RMS%MIT-OZ at mit-eddie
Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards,net.usoft
Subject: new UNIX implementation
Date: Tue, 27-Sep-83 12:35:59 EST
Organization: MIT AI Lab, Cambridge, MA ....
"I consider that the golden rule requires that if I like a program I
must share it with other people who like it. I cannot in good
conscience sign a nondisclosure agreement or a software license
agreement.
So that I can continue to use computers without violating my
principles, I have decided to put together a sufficient body of free
software so that I will be able to get along without any software that
is not free.
..."
---------
Regards
Siddharth
On 3/17/07, mak wrote:
>
> the first man to invent fire... practiced the Open Source philosophy.
> If he would kept it as business secret, the human race would not have
> developed much.
>
> the way you wear trousers, if it wasn't Open Source, just imagine you
> have to pay each time you wore those pairs of your pajamas; or better
> be nude ;)
>
> So, why not in software... the same practice?
>
> On 17/03/07, susmit shannigrahi wrote:
> > Dear *,
> > Can anybody please give me a few point/link why people should contribute
> to
> > fedora and overall GNU/Linux? I mean something what will affect the
> > listeners instantly and make them thinking of contributing...
> > Apart from what is mentioned in the overview page,of course.
> >
> > --
> > ssh
> > 0x86DD170A
> > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
> >
>
>
> --
> ??? ?????
> mak
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> First they ignore you, then they laugh at you,
> then they fight you, then you win.
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
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From mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 16:43:51 2007
From: mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com (Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 00:43:51 +0800
Subject: [Ambassadors] Need a few points..
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
On 3/17/07, Siddharth Upmanyu wrote:
>
> ----------
>
> While initiating the GNU Project, RMS wrote:
>
> "From: RMS%MIT-OZ at mit-eddie
> Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards,net.usoft
> Subject: new UNIX implementation
> Date: Tue, 27-Sep-83 12:35:59 EST
> Organization: MIT AI Lab, Cambridge, MA ....
>
> "I consider that the golden rule requires that if I like a program I
> must share it with other people who like it. I cannot in good
> conscience sign a nondisclosure agreement or a software license
> agreement.
>
> So that I can continue to use computers without violating my
> principles, I have decided to put together a sufficient body of free
> software so that I will be able to get along without any software that
> is not free.
>
> ..."
Using this point is quite hard to convince normal users and developers
who has been taught in MS style development in their education ..
I'm also interested to know some good points on how to convince these
type of people .. Its easy to convince those with high computer
interest .. but others .. its quite hard for me ..
In some countries (mine included) , piracy is all over the place and
people took it for granted .. preaching about free software, it
benefit to them, and licensing etc doesnt give much effect .. they get
lots of commercial softwares for nearly free in the first place, and
some even have something like this in their mindset -> "Why would i
bother to learn to use free software/linux while i can get commercial
apps nearly free too .. licensing?? whats that?? like i care... nobody
will put lawsuit against me anyway"
[snip]
--
-----------------------------------------------
regards
Hikaru
-----------------------------------------------
Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
Amano Hikaru
??? ???? ????
Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS
ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester
mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com
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kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com
Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com
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From siddharth at techbugs.org Sat Mar 17 19:27:32 2007
From: siddharth at techbugs.org (Siddharth Upmanyu)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 00:57:32 +0530
Subject: [Ambassadors] Need a few points..
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
well the point is already been laid down... Piracy is bad and cannot be
encouraged... even for the stubborn people who take it for granted..., we
cannot bend out stand to fit them but a way must be followed to teach them
why using OSS is good...
Look at Fedora Core 6 it is undoubtably the best OS i have ever used beyond
WinXP Vista or Mac... but if somebody says pirated copies of these OSs are
easy and are a treat i don't believe....
Regards
Siddharth
On 3/17/07, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote:
>
> On 3/17/07, Siddharth Upmanyu wrote:
> >
> > ----------
> >
> > While initiating the GNU Project, RMS wrote:
> >
> > "From: RMS%MIT-OZ at mit-eddie
> > Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards,net.usoft
> > Subject: new UNIX implementation
> > Date: Tue, 27-Sep-83 12:35:59 EST
> > Organization: MIT AI Lab, Cambridge, MA ....
> >
> > "I consider that the golden rule requires that if I like a program I
> > must share it with other people who like it. I cannot in good
> > conscience sign a nondisclosure agreement or a software license
> > agreement.
> >
> > So that I can continue to use computers without violating my
> > principles, I have decided to put together a sufficient body of free
> > software so that I will be able to get along without any software that
> > is not free.
> >
> > ..."
>
> Using this point is quite hard to convince normal users and developers
> who has been taught in MS style development in their education ..
>
> I'm also interested to know some good points on how to convince these
> type of people .. Its easy to convince those with high computer
> interest .. but others .. its quite hard for me ..
>
> In some countries (mine included) , piracy is all over the place and
> people took it for granted .. preaching about free software, it
> benefit to them, and licensing etc doesnt give much effect .. they get
> lots of commercial softwares for nearly free in the first place, and
> some even have something like this in their mindset -> "Why would i
> bother to learn to use free software/linux while i can get commercial
> apps nearly free too .. licensing?? whats that?? like i care... nobody
> will put lawsuit against me anyway"
>
> [snip]
> --
> -----------------------------------------------
> regards
> Hikaru
> -----------------------------------------------
> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail
> Amano Hikaru
> ??? ???? ????
> Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS
> ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester
> mohd.izhar.firdaus at gmail.com
> -----------------------------------------------
> kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com
> Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
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From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Sun Mar 18 09:31:07 2007
From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:31:07 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1930
Message-ID: <1174210267.3531.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and
_every_ interested people.
2007-03-18 / 19:30 UTC
IRC: freenode
#fedora-mktg-fr
Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones,
qui aura lieu ce dimanche (18 mars) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC
(freenode) #fedora-mktg-fr .
Thomas
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From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 18 17:01:38 2007
From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:01:38 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: CeBIT2007
In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0703051508r7613aec6i7f18e4174d7dcd98@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13dbfe4f0703051508r7613aec6i7f18e4174d7dcd98@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703181001t1e3ffe9dle44c82c579f9c411@mail.gmail.com>
On 3/6/07, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
> So in all, There will be 100 DVDs at the KDE booth for CeBIT.
An article on cebit and fedora dvds:
http://dot.kde.org/1174224693/
""""""""We would also like to thank Canonical, Fedora and Novell for
providing CDs featuring the latest and greatest KDE.""""""""""""""
According to what I heard the KDE guys gave some fedora dvds to the
gnome booth since they didn't have any dvd.
So up till now, kde and gnome booths are distributing KDE and perhaps
but I dont know RedHat might also distribute fedora dvds. So for such
big event in Europe, fedora might be everywhere :)
Tomorrow, Ill be at the KDE booth with MirjamWaeckerlin till Tuesday,
we will see how it goes.
regards,
Chitlesh
--
http://clunixchit.blogspot.com
From mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com Sun Mar 18 17:12:26 2007
From: mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mirjam_W=E4ckerlin?=)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:12:26 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: CeBIT2007
In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0703181001t1e3ffe9dle44c82c579f9c411@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13dbfe4f0703051508r7613aec6i7f18e4174d7dcd98@mail.gmail.com>
<13dbfe4f0703181001t1e3ffe9dle44c82c579f9c411@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2afa92000703181012x3ec7b2b4y7df8faa40c43d252@mail.gmail.com>
Hi there,
On 3/18/07, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
> On 3/6/07, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
> > So in all, There will be 100 DVDs at the KDE booth for CeBIT.
>
> An article on cebit and fedora dvds:
> http://dot.kde.org/1174224693/
> """"""""We would also like to thank Canonical, Fedora and Novell for
> providing CDs featuring the latest and greatest KDE.""""""""""""""
>
> According to what I heard the KDE guys gave some fedora dvds to the
> gnome booth since they didn't have any dvd.
>
> So up till now, kde and gnome booths are distributing KDE
Wow this is great news, gnome is distributing KDE? :-D
...I assume you wanted to say: distributing fedora ;)
> and perhaps
> but I dont know RedHat might also distribute fedora dvds. So for such
> big event in Europe, fedora might be everywhere :)
>
> Tomorrow, Ill be at the KDE booth with MirjamWaeckerlin till Tuesday,
> we will see how it goes.
This information is correct ;)
Mirjam
From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 18 17:19:18 2007
From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:19:18 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: CeBIT2007
In-Reply-To: <2afa92000703181012x3ec7b2b4y7df8faa40c43d252@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13dbfe4f0703051508r7613aec6i7f18e4174d7dcd98@mail.gmail.com>
<13dbfe4f0703181001t1e3ffe9dle44c82c579f9c411@mail.gmail.com>
<2afa92000703181012x3ec7b2b4y7df8faa40c43d252@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0703181019q3ef1e1fbx7d5ace959a4a6ad7@mail.gmail.com>
On 3/18/07, Mirjam W?ckerlin wrote:
> Wow this is great news, gnome is distributing KDE? :-D
> ...I assume you wanted to say: distributing fedora ;)
Yes, indeed, distributing Fedora :)
--
http://clunixchit.blogspot.com
From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 18 17:18:51 2007
From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:18:51 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: CeBIT2007
In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0703181001t1e3ffe9dle44c82c579f9c411@mail.gmail.com>
References: <13dbfe4f0703051508r7613aec6i7f18e4174d7dcd98@mail.gmail.com>
<13dbfe4f0703181001t1e3ffe9dle44c82c579f9c411@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45FD747B.4080405@fedoraproject.org>
Good luck.
Yes, the next here we will have a Fedora booth. ;) (it's an imperative)
Regards
Francesco Ugolini
Chitlesh GOORAH ha scritto:
> On 3/6/07, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
>> So in all, There will be 100 DVDs at the KDE booth for CeBIT.
>
> An article on cebit and fedora dvds:
> http://dot.kde.org/1174224693/
> """"""""We would also like to thank Canonical, Fedora and Novell for
> providing CDs featuring the latest and greatest KDE.""""""""""""""
>
> According to what I heard the KDE guys gave some fedora dvds to the
> gnome booth since they didn't have any dvd.
>
> So up till now, kde and gnome booths are distributing KDE and perhaps
> but I dont know RedHat might also distribute fedora dvds. So for such
> big event in Europe, fedora might be everywhere :)
>
> Tomorrow, Ill be at the KDE booth with MirjamWaeckerlin till Tuesday,
> we will see how it goes.
>
> regards,
> Chitlesh
--
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Mar 18 17:42:01 2007
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:12:01 +0530
Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Need a few points..
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <45FD79E9.4010001@fedoraproject.org>
susmit shannigrahi wrote:
> Dear *,
> Can anybody please give me a few point/link why people should contribute to
> fedora and overall GNU/Linux? I mean something what will affect the
> listeners instantly and make them thinking of contributing...
> Apart from what is mentioned in the overview page,of course.
>
The best answer we came up with is in the FAQ
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ#head-601a19251b0534d92b5246b362791d8ad66bab68
All of that is true for me. I got a job shift. You can google my name
and find all sort of references and I even got a trip to FUDCon. So there..
Rahul
From nman64 at n-man.com Sun Mar 18 22:51:19 2007
From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick W. Barnes)
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:51:19 -0500
Subject: [Ambassadors] CLA in german
In-Reply-To: <45FAF572.9060408@fedoraproject.org>
References: <20070315174029.xyrgzuga8s4gcc4s@login-15.hoststar.ch>
<45FAE36D.8060401@bernewireless.net>
<45FAF572.9060408@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <200703181751.23069.nman64@n-man.com>
On Friday 16 March 2007, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
> To add to that, you can add a prominent disclaimer on top "In case of a
> contradiction between the Official English version of the contributory
> license agreement and the community German translation, the English
> version must be considered authoritative. This translation is only
> available to help German users understand the CLA and must not be
> considered as a legal document". In German of course.
>
+1
Also, note that contributors will eventually have to agree to the original
English document. The German translation will not be delivered by the
Account System and can only serve as a reference.
--
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nman64 at n-man.com
http://n-man.com/
LinkedIn:
http://linkedin.com/in/nman64
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From dimitris at glezos.com Mon Mar 19 02:20:00 2007
From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 02:20:00 +0000
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora interviews
Message-ID: <45FDF350.9030006@glezos.com>
Hey all.
Today I remembered we have this nifty project called Interviews:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews
Basically members of the community throw a dozen of questions to other members
and we get to know what they are hacking on and get to see a picture of them.
It would be great if some ambassadors could keep this going! These interviews
are very interesting and require little time to write the questions. The
interviews could be featured on our Fedora News or on our Planet too.
Any ideas for future interviewees? Someone who'd like to step forward for the
next interview? :)
-d
--
Dimitris Glezos
Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B
http://dimitris.glezos.com/
"He who gives up functionality for ease of use
loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous)
--
From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 08:29:15 2007
From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:59:15 +0530
Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Need a few points..
In-Reply-To: <45FD79E9.4010001@fedoraproject.org>
References:
<45FD79E9.4010001@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID:
Thank you very much all...
On 18/03/07, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> susmit shannigrahi wrote:
> > Dear *,
> > Can anybody please give me a few point/link why people should contribute to
> > fedora and overall GNU/Linux? I mean something what will affect the
> > listeners instantly and make them thinking of contributing...
> > Apart from what is mentioned in the overview page,of course.
> >
>
> The best answer we came up with is in the FAQ
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ#head-601a19251b0534d92b5246b362791d8ad66bab68
>
> All of that is true for me. I got a job shift. You can google my name
> and find all sort of references and I even got a trip to FUDCon. So there..
>
>
> Rahul
>
--
ssh
0x86DD170A
http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi
From nayyares at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 08:31:51 2007
From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:31:51 +0200
Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag Berlin 2007
Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30703190131m5e263b5cr38aead920cd7ac99@mail.gmail.com>
Hi All,
let me first introduce my self, I am M.Sc CS and RHCE, I have been working
in Free / Open Source Technologies around last five years, mostly
Redhat/Fedora based technologies, I have Dev. experience in GTK+ although i
am full time Linux SysAdmin, currently I am working as Data Center
Consultant in a Brazilian company in Mozambique, Africa. I have publish few
articles i.e. some recent links
1. http://howtoforge.org/linux_bind9_and_caching_nameserver
2. http://howtoforge.org/htaccess_authentication
3. http://howtoforge.org/apache_php_mysql_oci8_client_support
While i am at the same time Fedora Project Ambassador i.e. *http://
fedoraproject*.org/wiki/*NayyarAhmad *though I d'nt got time to update my
profile here :-) but still I am working in various aspect of promoting Free
/ Open Source word in community. secondly I have started a series of Linux
Learning CBTs, currently I am recording them and soon will be realised under
GPL i.e. http://cbtcandy.org
As you can see the affiliation with Free / Open Source, this time I have
decided to participate in LinuxTag Berlin 2007
and become a part of this big event. I want you to know the registeration
process and further guide lines, so that I can plan a trip and ensure my
presence in LinuxTag Berlin 2007 as it will be "a
dream come true" sort of situation.
Looking forward,
Regrads
--
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RHCE (ID:804006858622745)
Skype: nayyares
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From fabian at bernewireless.net Mon Mar 19 11:53:56 2007
From: fabian at bernewireless.net (Fabian Affolter)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:53:56 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] CLA in german
In-Reply-To: <200703181751.23069.nman64@n-man.com>
References: <20070315174029.xyrgzuga8s4gcc4s@login-15.hoststar.ch>
<45FAE36D.8060401@bernewireless.net>
<45FAF572.9060408@fedoraproject.org>
<200703181751.23069.nman64@n-man.com>
Message-ID: <20070319125356.nix8ovx2ooogogk0@login-15.hoststar.ch>
Zitat von "Patrick W. Barnes" :
>> To add to that, you can add a prominent disclaimer on top "In case of a
>> contradiction between the Official English version of the contributory
>> license agreement and the community German translation, the English
>> version must be considered authoritative. This translation is only
>> available to help German users understand the CLA and must not be
>> considered as a legal document". In German of course.
>>
>
> +1
The intro has allready covered several possibilities of missunderstanding
the the german translation of the CLA. After one new sentence it should
not have any more place for misinterpretation of the status of the CLA in
german. By the way, the intro of the document has been made according to
the translated version of the GPL.
>
> Also, note that contributors will eventually have to agree to the original
> English document. The German translation will not be delivered by the
> Account System and can only serve as a reference.
that's clear.
Regards,
Fabian
From fabian at bernewireless.net Mon Mar 19 12:06:20 2007
From: fabian at bernewireless.net (Fabian Affolter)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:06:20 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag Berlin 2007
In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30703190131m5e263b5cr38aead920cd7ac99@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8e1ee2a30703190131m5e263b5cr38aead920cd7ac99@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070319130620.vq6wt6rmokcok040@login-15.hoststar.ch>
Zitat von Nayyar Ahmed :
> As you can see the affiliation with Free / Open Source, this time I have
> decided to participate in LinuxTag Berlin 2007
> and become a part of this big event. I want you to know the registeration
> process and further guide lines, so that I can plan a trip and ensure my
> presence in LinuxTag Berlin 2007 as it will be "a
> dream come true" sort of situation.
Check out the http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2007
Some people will arrive at May, 29 2007 in the morning, like GeroldKa and me.
At this day is a FAD planned
-> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADLinuxTag2007
Regrads,
Fabian
From nayyares at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 12:18:01 2007
From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:18:01 +0200
Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag Berlin 2007
In-Reply-To: <20070319130620.vq6wt6rmokcok040@login-15.hoststar.ch>
References: <8e1ee2a30703190131m5e263b5cr38aead920cd7ac99@mail.gmail.com>
<20070319130620.vq6wt6rmokcok040@login-15.hoststar.ch>
Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30703190518g7b4d0b5bnfb08ed3cdbf923e6@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Fabian:
In fact I will be needing Visa to travel Germany, so for that i would be
needing an invitation letter, so that i can apply in German High Commission
for visit visa. What is the process of getting these invitations?
Regards.
On 3/19/07, Fabian Affolter wrote:
>
> Zitat von Nayyar Ahmed :
>
> > As you can see the affiliation with Free / Open Source, this time I have
> > decided to participate in LinuxTag Berlin 2007 >
> > and become a part of this big event. I want you to know the
> registeration
> > process and further guide lines, so that I can plan a trip and ensure
> my
> > presence in LinuxTag Berlin 2007 as it will
> be "a
> > dream come true" sort of situation.
>
> Check out the
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2007
>
> Some people will arrive at May, 29 2007 in the morning, like GeroldKa and
> me.
> At this day is a FAD planned
> -> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADLinuxTag2007
>
> Regrads,
>
> Fabian
>
>
>
>
> --
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> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
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From fabian at bernewireless.net Mon Mar 19 12:37:30 2007
From: fabian at bernewireless.net (Fabian Affolter)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:37:30 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag Berlin 2007
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Zitat von Nayyar Ahmed :
> In fact I will be needing Visa to travel Germany, so for that i would be
> needing an invitation letter, so that i can apply in German High Commission
> for visit visa. What is the process of getting these invitations?
I'm swiss and I don't know anything the travelling to Germany from a country
that needs a visa. In this case I can't help you. Maybe a german ambassador
knows more about that topic.
Regards,
Fabian
From tcallawa at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 13:51:47 2007
From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom 'spot' Callaway)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:51:47 -0500
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora interviews
In-Reply-To: <45FDF350.9030006@glezos.com>
References: <45FDF350.9030006@glezos.com>
Message-ID: <1174312307.4479.47.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 02:20 +0000, Dimitris Glezos wrote:
> Hey all.
>
> Today I remembered we have this nifty project called Interviews:
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews
>
> Basically members of the community throw a dozen of questions to other members
> and we get to know what they are hacking on and get to see a picture of them.
>
> It would be great if some ambassadors could keep this going! These interviews
> are very interesting and require little time to write the questions. The
> interviews could be featured on our Fedora News or on our Planet too.
>
> Any ideas for future interviewees? Someone who'd like to step forward for the
> next interview? :)
Go after FESCO, I bet most of them will be willing to be interviewed.
Maybe, this is even something where we could get community involvement,
have them generate some questions. (e.g. from mailing lists,
FedoraForum, etc, etc).
~spot
From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Mon Mar 19 12:48:04 2007
From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:48:04 +0900
Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag Berlin 2007
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Fabian Affolter"
To:
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag Berlin 2007
> Zitat von Nayyar Ahmed :
>
>> In fact I will be needing Visa to travel Germany, so for that i would be
>> needing an invitation letter, so that i can apply in German High
>> Commission
>> for visit visa. What is the process of getting these invitations?
>
> I'm swiss and I don't know anything the travelling to Germany from a
> country
> that needs a visa. In this case I can't help you. Maybe a german
> ambassador
> knows more about that topic.
>
> Regards,
>
> Fabian
>
>
My understanding is that you need a German person to 'vouch' for you. At
least thats what I had to provide to Indian counterparts that visited
Australia with me. It is more a guarantee that the person is not being a
refugee and also if there are any issues they know who to confront.
It was a pretty simple letter stating that this person is invited by me and
will be staying under our care from [date] -> [date] and is here on business
regarding [business]
I can't personally remember the whole letter but I remember I had to put in
how they were going to be accomodated, costs bourne by and the like. It
seems like a waste of time but I think its here to stay for the moment.
Good luck
Marc Wiriadisastra
From polytropolis at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 13:55:48 2007
From: polytropolis at gmail.com (Claus Reheis)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:55:48 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag Berlin 2007
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References: <8e1ee2a30703190131m5e263b5cr38aead920cd7ac99@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi!
On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 13:37 +0100, Fabian Affolter wrote:
> Zitat von Nayyar Ahmed :
>
> > In fact I will be needing Visa to travel Germany, so for that i would be
> > needing an invitation letter, so that i can apply in German High Commission
> > for visit visa. What is the process of getting these invitations?
>
> I'm swiss and I don't know anything the travelling to Germany from a country
> that needs a visa. In this case I can't help you. Maybe a german ambassador
> knows more about that topic.
>
> Regards,
>
> Fabian
He will need an official invitation of the fedoraproject!
With that he can apply for a visa!
But a tourist visa should also do it for that short period!
Claus
>
>
>
>
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> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
From nayyares at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 14:04:58 2007
From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmed)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:04:58 +0200
Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag Berlin 2007
In-Reply-To: <1174312548.20764.4.camel@main-station>
References: <8e1ee2a30703190131m5e263b5cr38aead920cd7ac99@mail.gmail.com>
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On 3/19/07, Claus Reheis wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 13:37 +0100, Fabian Affolter wrote:
> > Zitat von Nayyar Ahmed :
> >
> > > In fact I will be needing Visa to travel Germany, so for that i would
> be
> > > needing an invitation letter, so that i can apply in German High
> Commission
> > > for visit visa. What is the process of getting these invitations?
> >
> > I'm swiss and I don't know anything the travelling to Germany from a
> country
> > that needs a visa. In this case I can't help you. Maybe a german
> ambassador
> > knows more about that topic.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Fabian
>
> He will need an official invitation of the fedoraproject!
> With that he can apply for a visa!
Yeah , I have confirmed with a traveling agent , they says you need an
official fedoraproject invitation for this visa. Could you guys point me to
the responsible person issues fedoraproject official invitations.
But a tourist visa should also do it for that short period!
>
> Claus
Regards
>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
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> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
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From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Mon Mar 19 14:25:01 2007
From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:25:01 +0900
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora interviews
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom 'spot' Callaway"
To:
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora interviews
> On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 02:20 +0000, Dimitris Glezos wrote:
>> Hey all.
>>
>> Today I remembered we have this nifty project called Interviews:
>>
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews
>>
>> Basically members of the community throw a dozen of questions to other
>> members
>> and we get to know what they are hacking on and get to see a picture of
>> them.
>>
>> It would be great if some ambassadors could keep this going! These
>> interviews
>> are very interesting and require little time to write the questions. The
>> interviews could be featured on our Fedora News or on our Planet too.
>>
>> Any ideas for future interviewees? Someone who'd like to step forward for
>> the
>> next interview? :)
>
> Go after FESCO, I bet most of them will be willing to be interviewed.
>
> Maybe, this is even something where we could get community involvement,
> have them generate some questions. (e.g. from mailing lists,
> FedoraForum, etc, etc).
>
> ~spot
>
+1 from me I think it would be a great idea to get peoples visions of the
future for Fedora
Cheers
Marc
From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 19 14:26:31 2007
From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:56:31 +0530
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora interviews
In-Reply-To: <1174312307.4479.47.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <45FDF350.9030006@glezos.com>
<1174312307.4479.47.camel@localhost.localdomain>
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Tom 'spot' Callaway wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 02:20 +0000, Dimitris Glezos wrote:
>> Hey all.
>>
>> Today I remembered we have this nifty project called Interviews:
>>
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Interviews
>>
>> Basically members of the community throw a dozen of questions to other members
>> and we get to know what they are hacking on and get to see a picture of them.
>>
>> It would be great if some ambassadors could keep this going! These interviews
>> are very interesting and require little time to write the questions. The
>> interviews could be featured on our Fedora News or on our Planet too.
>>
>> Any ideas for future interviewees? Someone who'd like to step forward for the
>> next interview? :)
>
> Go after FESCO, I bet most of them will be willing to be interviewed.
>
> Maybe, this is even something where we could get community involvement,
> have them generate some questions. (e.g. from mailing lists,
> FedoraForum, etc, etc).
Yes. That would be a very interesting things to do. Provide a short
introduction to the person. Tell them to send in questions for a time
period and select the best ones to send it to the folks you are
interviewing either as a editor or based on votes.
Rahul
From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Mar 19 20:20:26 2007
From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:20:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Ambassadors] hotel at linuxtag
Message-ID:
We are trying to figure out how many rooms to get at the hotel for
LinuxTag.
Please see this page if you are planning on coming to the event. Please
share the URL with people who are coming, who may not see this email.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2007/Rooms
Thank you,
Max
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From armelk at akserver.dyndns.org Tue Mar 20 11:46:07 2007
From: armelk at akserver.dyndns.org (Armelk)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:46:07 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora French Ambassadors Weekly Minutes [2007-03-18]
Message-ID: <50976.86.203.25.53.1174391167.squirrel@akserver.dyndns.org>
Good morning Fedora Ambassadors Team,
The french Ambassador team has the great pleasure to share with you the
weekly minutes meeting.
The goal for us is to give you each week a visibility of our actions.
You can find at this adress the full report in French and Enlish :
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions/07-03-18
Best regards.
French Ambassador Team
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Ambassadors
*'MrTom' : ThomasCanniot
*'llaumgui' : GuillaumeKulakowski
*'Pingoomax' : MaximeCarron
*'armelk' : ArmelKermorvant
*'TitaX' : ThierryDelmonte
*'trashy' : JohanCwiklinski
*'[splinux]' : DamienDurand
*'ChitleshGoorah' : ChitleshGoorah
*'SmootherFrOgZ' : XavierLamien
*'serenity : BenoitMarcelin
Community member
*'fclove' : MarieGoeneutte
*'koreth' : S?bastienBaudru
Transcript
Summary
1) IRC Channel moving
We decided to change the channel IRC for the Fedora-Fr meetings with the
aim to show that we are active and that all the meetings are in the same
place.
The new channel from 25 the Mars 2007 will be #fedora-meeting
The conversations will be held in French, if we see concerns or a
dissatisfaction of the other people, we will return on the old channel.
In order to show our activity, we will summary in English the meeting and
we will post it on the Ambassadors Mailling List.
2) Fedora-fr organisation
MrTom received the registration papers from the prefecture, he put all
informations and returns them,
Trashy has some informations about the bank account, Armelk will contact a
local organisation to know which bank is good for us (Management cost,
legal support, ...).
With the information collected about the banks, it will be necessary to
expect a visit of them.
3) Fedora T-shirts
The shop is still in construction, we will update some articles on it.
Now, we are waiting for the opening of the bank account of the
organisation to open it.
Titax sends a mail to Armelk with SVG file in attachment, Armelk convert
it into EPS format so that this one is to give the manufacturer.
4) To summarize Fedora-fr activities in Nantes
Armelk sent a mail on fedora-fr-list to share with you the experience
about these 2 days.
We are plaining a translation in English for a diffusion on the
Ambassadors mailing list,
We are already ready to return the next year at these 2 days and we are
already invited for a forthcoming day (Install Party) in Nantes on May 12,
2007. We have more informations in fews days.
5) Fedora & local events'
*Fedora at the University of Angers(49) March 24th, 2007
- We are invited to the University of Bell-Beille in Angers for 8th Linux
Party.
- fclove will be present for Fedora installation and share the experiences
with the Fedora Users.
- As you can see it, the west of France is very active and we start to
have solid links with Linux Users Groups.
- We put in Fedora-FR calendar all coming events.
*Fedora at Maubeuge (59) June 02nd and 03rd, 2007
- Fedora is invited to take part and will have a stand at this event, we
make a point of thanking koreth.
- We have the possibility to present Fedora on some conferences.
- Trashy will be present and maybe [splinux] too.
- We will make a kit (DVD Fedora/Flyers/Goodies...).
- Dead line for subscription at this event : April 30th, 2007.
*Fedora ay Montpellier(34) from June, 14th to June 16th , 2007'
-We will have a stand more of the demonstrations.
-llaumgui, Pingoomax, sereinity and can be drpixel will be present for
this event.
6) Fedora Project
No news.
7) Fedora Europe Infrastructure Project
llaumgui is invested in this project with ChitleshGoorah
8) FreeMedia Program
No new request for Belgium and no new request for France.
9) Open discussions
Parinux & Fedora make a new appointment for Fedora 7 release, we decided
to go for a new Install Party in Paris in the city of sciences, MrTom
comes back to us with a final date.
Fedora will be present during the RMLL (Rencontres Mondiales du Logiciel
Libre / World Meetings of the Free Software), Armelk contact the
organizers to know the methods to be present.
Install Party of Lyon, sereinity will send a feedback on this project in
the next fews days.
From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Tue Mar 20 19:40:16 2007
From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:40:16 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] hotel at linuxtag
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <1174419616.3688.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Le lundi 19 mars 2007 ? 16:20 -0400, Max Spevack a ?crit :
> We are trying to figure out how many rooms to get at the hotel for
> LinuxTag.
>
> Please see this page if you are planning on coming to the event. Please
> share the URL with people who are coming, who may not see this email.
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2007/Rooms
>
> Thank you,
> Max
>
Thanks for the link !
However, I still don't know if I come and how long I may come. The
problem is that I won't know it very soon, but during April.
How can we proceed ?
Thomas
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From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Mar 20 20:03:03 2007
From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:03:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Ambassadors] hotel at linuxtag
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References:
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Message-ID:
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Thomas Canniot wrote:
> Thanks for the link !
>
> However, I still don't know if I come and how long I may come. The
> problem is that I won't know it very soon, but during April. How can we
> proceed ?
Just your name with a (maybe) next to it.
We really need people who will go to LinuxTag to take a look at that link.
--Max
From gerold at lugd.org Tue Mar 20 20:42:37 2007
From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:42:37 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] hotel at linuxtag
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Thomas,
as you can see on the wiki page
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2007)
- please be aware: rooms and prices are only guaranteed until April,
21st later requests have to be handled individual by your own!
Because we have to pay in front and we don't want to pay for rooms which
are not used. We can cancel rooms latest to that date and we will do so!
Regards
Gerold
Am Dienstag, den 20.03.2007, 20:40 +0100 schrieb Thomas Canniot:
> Le lundi 19 mars 2007 ? 16:20 -0400, Max Spevack a ?crit :
> > We are trying to figure out how many rooms to get at the hotel for
> > LinuxTag.
> >
> > Please see this page if you are planning on coming to the event. Please
> > share the URL with people who are coming, who may not see this email.
> >
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2007/Rooms
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Max
> >
>
> Thanks for the link !
>
> However, I still don't know if I come and how long I may come. The
> problem is that I won't know it very soon, but during April.
> How can we proceed ?
>
> Thomas
> --
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From kwade at redhat.com Tue Mar 20 21:18:59 2007
From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:18:59 -0700
Subject: [Ambassadors] CLA in german
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On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 11:02 -0700, Thomas Chung wrote:
> On 3/16/07, Thomas Canniot wrote:
>
> >
> > Well, I don't know if translating a licence can be considered as valid.
> > In French, a licence / law translation is not considered as valid due to
> > numerous misinterpretations.
>
> True. I would suggest to check with Max and Red Hat Legal Counsel.
We've discussed the translation of legal content before.
The problem is more than just one of languages. Laws must be translated
(interpreted), and in many cases, the legal provisions may not apply the
same in all countries.
That is the main catch -- a language /= a country. The CLA, for
example, is written to be legally binding in only one country, despite
how many countries speak/read English as a primary language.
A process to translate documents so they could be legally useful (or
even binding) might look like this:
1. Trusted translators make initial translation
- For Red Hat, it might be best if they used their translation staff
2. The original and translation are read by a lawyer who reads both
languages, who understands the original documents intents, and who
understands the local laws. This person most likely needs to be
licensed to practice law in the target country.
3. Iterate.
4. Result - one, new, translated document that is legally binding in one
new country.
If you want to take the translation and apply it to another country,
start from Step 2. and proceed.
The cost per country is not-trivial.
Anyway, the main point is, this is not something Fedora can do. We
don't have lawyers or resources to hire foreign lawyers.
- Karsten
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From kanarip at kanarip.com Tue Mar 20 21:46:34 2007
From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen)
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 22:46:34 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] hotel at linuxtag
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Max Spevack wrote:
> We are trying to figure out how many rooms to get at the hotel for
> LinuxTag.
>
> Please see this page if you are planning on coming to the event. Please
> share the URL with people who are coming, who may not see this email.
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2007/Rooms
>
> Thank you,
> Max
>
Exactly the link I needed. Any other Dutchmen coming to this event? Or
anyone willing to share a room with a Dutchman?
Kind regards,
Jeroen van Meeuwen
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From nayyares at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 21 08:27:25 2007
From: nayyares at fedoraproject.org (Nayyar Ahmad)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:27:25 +0200
Subject: [Ambassadors] local mailing list creation.
Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30703210127l1e4bc50do7751d7834ca86c6e@mail.gmail.com>
Hi All,
I want to create a local mailing list for Mozambique fedora users on
fedoraproject domain, so that i can get people in and they can have
discussions, if it is possible then please point me to the process.
Regards,
--
Nayyar Ahmad
RHCE (ID:804006858622745)
Skype: nayyares
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From mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 09:55:01 2007
From: mirjam.waeckerlin at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mirjam_W=E4ckerlin?=)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:55:01 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] CLA in german
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Hello,
I understand the legal problems translations would impose. Though, I
think the solution of Fabian is a great idea - to translate CLA by
professional translators and add one or two sentences like he did to
clarify that only the english original is legally binding.
I'd say that my english is of course not perfect, but for a non-native
speaker quite ok, but I found it rather exhausting to really
understand what I am actually signing. How hard must it be for other
people, and how may are signing CLA without knowing what they're
signing? We have to consider that some people may also give up on
joining the project because they don't want to sign something they
don't understand completely.
I think it's much more important to actually KNOW what you're signing,
while being aware that only the original english text is the basis of
the contract.
Of course, what Karsten propose would be the perfect solution for everyone.
The question is: Since we don't have the means to make the perfect
solution possible, Is there any chance that RedHat could support us in
this?
If there is no way to get this solution in a timely manner, I think
what Fabian did is the second best solution and we should continue
along his track.
Mirjam
From omen at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 21 10:33:30 2007
From: omen at fedoraproject.org (SaadAlDine AlSaidi)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:33:30 +0200
Subject: [Ambassadors] local mailing list creation.
In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30703210127l1e4bc50do7751d7834ca86c6e@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <200703211233.30479.omen@fedoraproject.org>
On Wednesday 21 March 2007 10:27, Nayyar Ahmad wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I want to create a local mailing list for Mozambique fedora users on
> fedoraproject domain, so that i can get people in and they can have
> discussions, if it is possible then please point me to the process.
>
> Regards,
This Seems a great idea,
but i guess there exist a fedora forum. http://www.fedoraforum.org/
I guess it might be better there , I mean for discussions and stuff.
Or yet, I'm a newbie here, how should i know. :D
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From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 21 13:59:59 2007
From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:59:59 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] local mailing list creation.
In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30703210127l1e4bc50do7751d7834ca86c6e@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <46013A5F.2090305@fedoraproject.org>
Mailing lists general are one per project (or more for different, but
common language). You can just use fedora-marketing-list to share ideas.
Regards
Francesco Ugolini
Nayyar Ahmad ha scritto:
> Hi All,
>
> I want to create a local mailing list for Mozambique fedora users on
> fedoraproject domain, so that i can get people in and they can have
> discussions, if it is possible then please point me to the process.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Nayyar Ahmad
> RHCE (ID:804006858622745)
> Skype: nayyares
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
--
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
From nayyares at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 14:10:50 2007
From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:10:50 +0200
Subject: [Ambassadors] local mailing list creation.
In-Reply-To: <46013A5F.2090305@fedoraproject.org>
References: <8e1ee2a30703210127l1e4bc50do7751d7834ca86c6e@mail.gmail.com>
<46013A5F.2090305@fedoraproject.org>
Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30703210710s37212eeal538d1cab4d8455ee@mail.gmail.com>
On 3/21/07, Francesco Ugolini wrote:
>
> Mailing lists general are one per project (or more for different, but
> common language). You can just use fedora-marketing-list to share ideas.
in fact, i was thinking to have technical discussion LUG list for fedora,
here in mozambique, and pull user to post their problem , and try to solve
them in local mailing list. as there is no Linux Group/ Mailing list in
Mozambique so it might be a good idea *in my opinion*
thanks
Regards
>
> Francesco Ugolini
>
> Nayyar Ahmad ha scritto:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I want to create a local mailing list for Mozambique fedora users on
> > fedoraproject domain, so that i can get people in and they can have
> > discussions, if it is possible then please point me to the process.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Nayyar Ahmad
> > RHCE (ID:804006858622745)
> > Skype: nayyares
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > --
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
> --
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
>
> --
> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list
> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list
>
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Nayyar Ahmad
RHCE (ID:804006858622745)
Skype: nayyares
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From abhu85 at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 14:19:44 2007
From: abhu85 at gmail.com (ABHISHEK CHAUHAN)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:49:44 +0530
Subject: [Ambassadors] Bharatiyam Techfest at Pune (India)
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Hi All
We are having a Technical Fest at our College in the name of Bharatiyam... I
would like to invite you to visit the official website
http://www.bharatiyam.net
and post any comments we are also having an online programming contest
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From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 21 14:31:04 2007
From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:31:04 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] New FAmSCo Election Rules
Message-ID: <460141A8.9020802@fedoraproject.org>
We are pleasant to announce that, after a long discussion, FAmSCo has
changed the mandate term of its members from a year to two (2) major
releases of Fedora. This decision came from the consideration that it's
necessary to have a continuity in the guidance of Ambassadors and in
FAmSCo work.
To see the changes please refer to
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Election/Rules
The actual FAmSCo will stay in charge since Fedora 8 will be release,
after this the Chair will call for new election and the new FAmSCo
members will stay in charge for two (2) major releases.
Thanks for your attention.
Francesco Ugolini
From francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 21 14:48:50 2007
From: francesco.ugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:48:50 +0100
Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors' meeting reminder - Thursday 22th March
22.00 UTC
Message-ID: <460145D2.4090401@fedoraproject.org>
I want to remember all ambassadors that tomorrow there will be a meeting
at 22.00 UTC in #fedora-meeting channel.
Http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2007-03-22 to see the
agenda or to add new topics to this one.
Thanks for your attention
Francesco Ugolini
--
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini
From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 14:50:38 2007
From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:50:38 -0400
Subject: [Ambassadors] Bharatiyam Techfest at Pune (India)
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Where in your fest Fedora can get involved?
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From guillermo.gomez at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 16:11:33 2007
From: guillermo.gomez at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?Ikd1aWxsZXJtbyBHw7NtZXogUy4i?=)
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:11:33 -0400
Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Venezuela Sticker V1
Message-ID: <46015935.3020601@gmail.com>
Hi all, i just want to present the winner design for our very fist
sticker for PC/Laptops during ISEIT install fest just to confirm there's
no issue to produce them.
Other designs during the contest are available in
http://www.fedora-ve.org/calcomanias/
Fedora Venezuela Sticker V1
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