From david at lovesunix.net Thu Nov 1 08:42:35 2007 From: david at lovesunix.net (David Nielsen) Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 09:42:35 +0100 Subject: R: R: R: [Ambassadors] The weekly ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: <8C9E9305E5768E6-DC4-47B@WEBMAIL-MB16.sysops.aol.com> References: <47211D8E.60005@fedoraproject.org> <47261788.1060306@fedoralinks.org> <8C9E8F4205733C2-188-3751@WEBMAIL-DC05.sysops.aol.com> <1193750518.16521.39.camel@laptop.site> <8C9E9231CB06BB0-A74-7B6B@WEBMAIL-MB16.sysops.aol.com> <1193763827.17625.4.camel@laptop.site> <8C9E9305E5768E6-DC4-47B@WEBMAIL-MB16.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1193906555.3048.22.camel@dawkins> tir, 30 10 2007 kl. 13:20 -0400, skrev francescougolini at aol.it: > Actually only Fedora has its Ambassadoring project, yeah, the other > ones use to roganize events etc... without having a specific project. > > > > As i know the following project use those systems: > > > - Ubuntu: there is an internet form where everybody can ask for CDs > (for events more than 1) Ubuntu also has a strong set of local teams who do much of what the Fedora Ambassador project does with regards to advocacy, giving lectures and generally spread awareness. - David -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dette er en digitalt underskrevet brevdel URL: From sudheer.s at binaryvibes.co.in Sun Nov 4 05:38:40 2007 From: sudheer.s at binaryvibes.co.in (Sudheer Satyanarayana) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:08:40 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] The weekly ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: <1193766777.17625.17.camel@laptop.site> References: <47211D8E.60005@fedoraproject.org> <47261788.1060306@fedoralinks.org> <8C9E8F4205733C2-188-3751@WEBMAIL-DC05.sysops.aol.com> <1193750518.16521.39.camel@laptop.site> <8C9E9231CB06BB0-A74-7B6B@WEBMAIL-MB16.sysops.aol.com> <1193763827.17625.4.camel@laptop.site> <8C9E9305E5768E6-DC4-47B@WEBMAIL-MB16.sysops.aol.com> <1193766777.17625.17.camel@laptop.site> Message-ID: <472D5AE0.8040800@binaryvibes.co.in> Claus Reheis wrote: > Thanks for the quick answer! > > > > On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 13:20 -0400, francescougolini at aol.it wrote: > >> Actually only Fedora has its Ambassadoring project, yeah, the other >> ones use to roganize events etc... without having a specific project. >> >> >> >> As i know the following project use those systems: >> >> >> - Ubuntu: there is an internet form where everybody can ask for CDs >> (for events more than 1) >> >> >> - Gnome: there is (only for Gnome contributors) a box that you can >> request for a specific event and then give them back. >> >> >> Generally people send email to pojects' leaders, local contributors >> etc... >> >> >> This is what I know about the other project, probably someone in the >> list will know more solutions. >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> Francesco Ugolini >> > > There must be a way beside IRC and Mailing-lists where people can > contribute their ideas and questions independent from time and location! > In my opinion a forum style board would be something to think about! > There I can just log in, look whats going on, see what is needed and > contribute when I have time to do it! > I totally agree with you. I have never been able to catch up with folks here because of the my work schedules. By the time I see something interesting on the mailing list, the topic would old already. Joining the meetings on IRC is also quite difficult for me. Message boards is the way to go. > > Claus > > > >> -----Messaggio originario----- >> Da: Claus Reheis >> A: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> Inviati: Mar 30 Ott 2007 18:03 >> Oggetto: Re: R: R: [Ambassadors] The weekly ambassador meetings >> >> Hi! >> >> Are there similar projects like the Fedora Ambassadors in other >> distributions? (OpenSuse, Ubuntu...) >> How do they handle the communication? >> Maybe we should take a look how things are done there! >> >> Greetings, >> Claus >> >> On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 11:46 -0400, francescougolini at aol.it wrote: >> >>> First of all i never proposed to fire people (i hope someone has >>> understood this thing) and it wouldn't a proposal but a topic to start >>> a serious discussion over the future of the project. I don't know >>> where you have read the word "fire", "trown out" etc.... but as you >>> know i want to help people not to create problems and frustrations or >>> to force people doing something: I never thought to remove people >>> from the project. >>> >>> >>> And, please, stop this past (closed) discussion (see the Thomas >>> Chung's Message to M-L for more information). >>> >> I am happy to do so! >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I think the IRC weekly meetings are one of the place you can >>> communicate with Ambassadors, but there are a lot of other tools like >>> M-L and Ambassadors' EMAIL (in many ambassadors' wikis). >>> >>> >>> As happened for the last Italian Linux Day many contributors, that >>> weren't ambassadors, ask me for CDs. DVDs and similar stuffs, and >>> personally i've tried to complete all the request. >>> >>> >>> I f you need help you may contact one of you country's ambassador >>> asking him to help you not only asking him materials but what you >>> want. At the end we are here to do those things. >>> >>> >>> >>> Hoping i've answered (completely) to your questions and staying >>> avaiable for any other ones >>> >>> >>> Francesco Ugolini >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Messaggio originario----- >>> Da: Claus Reheis >>> A: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> Inviati: Mar 30 Ott 2007 14:21 >>> Oggetto: Re: R: [Ambassadors] The weekly ambassador meetings >>> >>> Dear Francesco Ugolini! >>> >>> In the year 2006 was a small Linux Day in Tirol/Austria! >>> Because I am am big fan of the Fedora distribution and the lack of >>> any Fedora presence on that event, I thought about doing some >>> advertisement for the Fedora Project! >>> There was no way to get some nice Fedora stuff, without joining the >>> Fedora Ambassador Project! >>> So I did that and I do not regret it. >>> >>> >>> But the meetings are at times, very hard for me to attend! >>> I work in a hotel and at (14:00 UTC) 16:00 I have to work all the time. >>> Sure I have a day off, but that day changes every season. >>> The meetings at (22:00 UTC) 0:00 are very late, especially when you have >>> to get up early... >>> >>> I am sure there are also other people in my situation! >>> We have our lives, our obligations, our work and our families! >>> So why do we not think about a way to communicate where people can >>> attend when and if they want? >>> A Ambassador forum where we communicate via threads independent from >>> time,location and situation! >>> >>> If there are IRC meetings every month, and the meetings are hold on >>> times I can attend, I will attend. >>> >>> And your proposal in the past to fire people from the Ambassador >>> project, is imho just unconscionable. >>> >>> There are people like me, not involved in IT, wo have to work for their >>> life, their family, attend their friends and little rest of the time >>> to their hobbies!Maybe one of this hobby is Linux/Fedora. >>> So if they advertise Fedora to everyone who is interested in Linux, >>> talk about it and even go to local events and represent the Fedora >>> Project, imho that is enought to be an ambassador! >>> >>> I am one of this kind and if you wish to fire someone, start with me. >>> >>> Claus Reheis >>> >>> On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 06:09 -0400, francescougolini at aol.it wrote: >>> >>>> Nobody was trow out: we had a discussion and people said clearly they >>>> disagree completely with this proposal. >>>> >>>> So i think it couldn't really help the project trying to speculate >>>> using obsolete arguments: we have just to do what you want (freely) to >>>> do. >>>> >>>> Yes, yo may disagree with my idea, but i'm not an imperor (i'm an >>>> ambassador like you), i've just prosed some (costructive) discussions >>>> and, as you have seen, a lot of people join those ones and take their >>>> position (and they won). >>>> >>>> Another point. We don't want to make comparison between ambassadors, >>>> countries etc...: this isn't the right place and we know each person >>>> has different possibilities. >>>> >>>> So, I hope you will think about those words. >>>> >>>> We haven't fire anybody, we don't want to give a prize for the most >>>> active ambassadors' Country but we want people who are not angried, >>>> unsatisfied or just disappointed. >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> >>>> Francesco Ugolini >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Messaggio originario----- >>>> Da: Robert 'Bob' Jensen >>>> A: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>> Inviati: Lun 29 Ott 2007 18:25 >>>> Oggetto: Re: [Ambassadors] The weekly ambassador meetings >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Fabian Affolter wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> It's a long time ago...exactly during the presentation during the FAD >>>>> >>>> at >>>> >>>> >>>>> Berlin I showed a slide (Page 7) [1]. This slide contains an >>>>> >>>> overview >>>> >>>> >>>>> of some weekly meetings. After a short discussion about why are >>>>> >>>> there >>>> >>>> >>>>> always a lot of European ambassadors at both time (FYI 22:00 UTC is >>>>> >>>>> midnight in western europe). Someone suggested to split the >>>>> >>>> meetings. >>>> >>>> >>>>> An European meeting at a pleasant moment...but now we can't split due >>>>> >>>> to >>>> >>>> >>>>> lack of attendance. >>>>> >>>>> Since LinuxTag there were 18 meetings. 14 were canceled! >>>>> >>>>> Do we still need weekly meetings? Is it an overkill? Is it just a >>>>> >>>>> waste of time? Today for me it was just wasting time. Three people >>>>> >>>>> showed up. >>>>> >>>>> Are the reasons... >>>>> >>>>> - I don't care what the other ambassadors do. >>>>> >>>>> - We have nothing to discuss. I don't know what to tell. >>>>> >>>>> - South America is far away, I'm not interested in stuff from there. >>>>> >>>>> - I have other stuff to do and can't take 30 min off. >>>>> >>>>> - I live in the wrong time zone. >>>>> >>>>> I guess that there is no more any need for exchanging information >>>>> >>>>> between the ambassadors about events and how stuff can be done >>>>> >>>> because >>>> >>>> >>>>> everybody have enough experience to handle it. >>>>> >>>>> On the Join page [2] of the Ambassadors Project... >>>>> >>>>> Step 1. Participate in weekly meetings >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps it would be a good idea to remove that step. No meeting, no >>>>> >>>>> possibility for a participation...FAMSco, this could be a topic for >>>>> >>>> your >>>> >>>> >>>>> next meeting. For your half-yearly meeting ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Just my thoughts... >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Fabian >>>>> >>>>> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADLinuxTag2007 >>>>> >>>>> [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Join >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>>> >>>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>>> >>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Personally I quit giving a crap about the ambassadors project and >>>> meetings when there was talk about throwing people out, creating a good >>>> ole boys club. As it appears this happened anyhow, only people were >>>> not >>>> thrown out they were just alienated. There are no events in my area of >>>> the US and quite honestly I do not have the resources to create one or >>>> travel more than an hour by car to get to one. The heavy activity of >>>> European Ambassadors does not help many of us in the US and perhaps >>>> other parts of the world because of cultural differences. It seams >>>> that >>>> the EU Ambassadors have no trouble traveling and taking time off of >>>> work >>>> to do something for the project, I on the other hand have a family to >>>> feed and a business to take care of. >>>> >>>> >>>> Robert 'Bob' Jensen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>> >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>> >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________________________________________________ >>>> Email gratis per tutti su AOL! Scopri tutti i servizi gratuiti di AOL >>>> su AOL.it. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> Email gratis per tutti su AOL! Scopri tutti i servizi gratuiti di AOL >>> su AOL.it. >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> Email gratis per tutti su AOL! Scopri tutti i servizi gratuiti di AOL >> su AOL.it. >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- With Warm Regards, Sudheer. S http://www.binaryvibes.co.in From mrtom at fedoraproject.org Sun Nov 4 10:37:15 2007 From: mrtom at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 11:37:15 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1830 #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20071104113715.353d3295@mrtomlinux.org> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2007-11-04 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (04 nov.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'h?sitez pas ? la modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent int?ressants. Thomas Canniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From pingoufc4 at yahoo.fr Tue Nov 6 17:42:23 2007 From: pingoufc4 at yahoo.fr (pingou) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:42:23 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAD EMEA (2007-11-23 - 2007-11-25) In-Reply-To: <471E666B.3030807@yahoo.fr> References: <1189853069.3253.8.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <46F42AD5.50902@fedoraproject.org> <1190742105.3493.1.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <20071021191446.23c3d937@fedoraproject.org> <20071021191743.59192ae9@fedoraproject.org> <471E2D11.40705@yahoo.fr> <1193167060.3525.1.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <1193174492.3525.7.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <471E666B.3030807@yahoo.fr> Message-ID: <4730A77F.8070905@yahoo.fr> pingou wrote: > Gerold Kassube wrote: >> again me, ... >> >> please excuse :-( >> >> I have reserved a number of rooms which will be ordered directly from >> myself (if there are all "other things" cleared and figured out). >> So if YOU registered yourself for the FAD, I'll book the room for >> you :-) >> >> Regards >> >> Gerold >> > well actually I would register if I could be sure to come, but as the > budget is my constraint I can not assume yet whether I come or not. > > As soon as we have any news I will let you know, by irc, or here, what I > do. hi all, I just ask for update here... I mean the more time we wait, the more expansive the plan ticket are, the less chance there are that we can come... Hope to hear news from you, Best regards, P.Yves ___________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail r?invente le mail ! D?couvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface r?volutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From fab at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 6 22:22:39 2007 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:22:39 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] =?iso-8859-1?q?=5BFwd=3A_OpenExpo_Newsletter_=232?= =?iso-8859-1?q?=3A_Call_for_Participation_f=FCr_OpenExpo_2008_in_Bern=5D?= Message-ID: <4730E92F.70108@fedoraproject.org> FYI If anybody wants to attend, check out http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/OpenExpo/OpenExpo2008_Berne -------- Original Message -------- Subject: OpenExpo Newsletter #2: Call for Participation f?r OpenExpo 2008 in Bern Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 02:56:18 -0500 From: OpenExpo To: Fabian Affolter Sehr geehrter Herr Affolter Bereits liegt die OpenExpo 2007 in Z?rich mehrere Wochen zur?ck. Mit ?ber 500 Besuchenden ist der Anlass erfolgreich zu Ende gegangen. R?ckblick, Vortr?ge mit Audioaufzeichnung und Folien sowie viele Fotos finden Sie auf http://www.openexpo.ch/openexpo-2007-zuerich Nun laden wir Sie ein, an der kommenden OpenExpo am 12./13. M?rz 2008 in Bern mitzuwirken. Dazu haben wir den Call for Participation lanciert, der zur Anmeldung von Projekt- und Firmenst?nden sowie zum Einreichen von Referatsvorschl?gen bis am ***30. November 2007*** aufruft. Sie finden alle weiteren Informationen, den Call for Participation als PDF (in deutsch, englisch und franz?sisch) sowie die jeweiligen Anmelde-Formulare unter folgendem Link: http://www.openexpo.ch/openexpo-2008-bern/ Speziell freut es uns Ihnen mitteilen zu k?nnen, dass die kommende OpenExpo dank grossz?gigen Sponsoren erneut wachsen wird. Einerseits findet in Zusammenarbeit mit dem Informatikstrategieorgan Bund ISB und der Schweizerischen Informatikkonferenz SIK die 4. OSS-Tagung f?r die ?ffentliche Verwaltung als OpenExpo Public Administration Track statt. Andererseits erm?glichen die Sponsoren IBM, Puzzle ITC, Liip, Optaros und leanux.ch die Durchf?hrung eines zweiten Business Tracks, sodass die Anzahl der OpenExpo-Referate verdoppelt werden kann. Bei den Speakers haben wir bereits Zusagen von Stefan Arn (UBS, ICTswitzerland, Gr?nder AdNovum) und Erwin Tenhumberg (Sun, OpenOffice.org Entwickler), weitere spannende Redner sind in Aussicht. Auch f?rs Marketing der kommenden OpenExpo konnten neue Partnerschaften geschlossen werden. Neu dazu gekommen sind die SwissICT, inside-it.ch, tcbe.ch sowie die informatica08. Somit ist die breite Kommunikation der Veranstaltung mit der Verteilung der 20'000 Veranstaltungs-Prospekten im Januar 2008 sichergestellt. Und last but not least wird neu auf dem OpenExpo Areal die Install Zone am Mittwoch, 12. M?rz 2008 von 10h bis 20h f?r private Computeranwender durchgef?hrt. Interessierte k?nnen sich an der Install Zone kostenlos auf ihrem Laptop oder PC vor Ort Linux, OpenOffice.org und andere Freie Software von Experten installieren oder sich dazu beraten lassen. Nun sind wir auf der Suche nach diesen Experten! Wer also am 12. M?rz 2008 w?hrend 2 Stunden oder l?nger den Install Zone-Besuchern den Einstieg in die Welt von Open Source Software erm?glichen m?chte, kann sich unter contact at openexpo.ch melden - merci vielmals f?rs Engagement! Wir freuen uns, dank Ihrer Unterst?tzung im kommenden Fr?hling erneut eine attraktive OpenExpo durchf?hren zu k?nnen und sind gespannt auf Ihre Einsendungen. Freundliche Gr?sse, das OpenExpo-Organisationskomitee Matthias St?rmer, Matthias G?nter und Hannes Gassert From karlthered2 at gmail.com Wed Nov 7 13:47:56 2007 From: karlthered2 at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H._Gu=E9mar?=) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 14:47:56 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] [entertainment] some curious facts about Fedora 8. Message-ID: I've just realized that 8th November (Release Day) is also French playwright Victorien Sardou death anniversary. Fedora hats are name after one of his play The heroine of the play Princess F?dora, wore a hat similar to a fedora. Fedora 8 codename "Werewolf" also contains 8 letters. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorien_Sardou Cheers From affix at FedoraProject.org Wed Nov 7 16:12:24 2007 From: affix at FedoraProject.org (Keiran Smith) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 16:12:24 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] [entertainment] some curious facts about Fedora 8. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Someone has been doing some research on the dates On 11/7/07, H. Gu?mar wrote: > > I've just realized that 8th November (Release Day) is also French > playwright Victorien Sardou death anniversary. Fedora hats are name > after one of his play The heroine of the play Princess F?dora, wore a > hat similar to a fedora. > > Fedora 8 codename "Werewolf" also contains 8 letters. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorien_Sardou > > Cheers > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Nov 7 19:16:09 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 11:16:09 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] [entertainment] some curious facts about Fedora 8. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <369bce3b0711071116h281c70a4v5e5c9cd2b9d86adc@mail.gmail.com> On 11/7/07, H. Gu?mar wrote: > I've just realized that 8th November (Release Day) is also French > playwright Victorien Sardou death anniversary. Fedora hats are name > after one of his play The heroine of the play Princess F?dora, wore a > hat similar to a fedora. > > Fedora 8 codename "Werewolf" also contains 8 letters. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorien_Sardou > > Cheers That's very interesting. :) Cheers -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From fab at fedoraproject.org Wed Nov 7 21:40:59 2007 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 22:40:59 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Leader for the monthly meetings In-Reply-To: <4727B983.7040904@fedoraproject.org> References: <4727B983.7040904@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <473230EB.5010900@fedoraproject.org> Hi all, A lot of people agreed with the idea of a monthly ambassador meeting. But till now, nobody want to be a meeting leader for an area. Hmmm, what to do now? - Delete the idea of Ambassador meeting in your minds - Wait till there are some volunteers - Let FAmSCo assign the task to anybody in every area - Let FAmSCo be in charge for the future meetings and their handling - Do nothing and go on up to now (Cancel all meeting due to lack of attendance) For EMEA, I could be the leader for the meetings (but this was originally not the idea...). I guess that all were looking for a person who is more reliable than me. Regards, Fabian Fabian Affolter wrote: > Hi all, > > We need for all three areas a leader and a co-leader or a replacement > for the new monthly Ambassadors Meeting. The leader hasn't to do all > stuff alone, of course. She/He is the person in charge about the > meeting but she/he can delegate the issues to ambassadors how are able > to help in the same region. > > Your mission will be: > > First part > > - Fix the time for the meeting in your region. Keep the wishes of your > ambassadors in mind, please. > - Fix the day (check [1] for free time slots) > - Invite all persons in your area to participate > and everything else in your head... > > Second part > > - Collect the topic for the meeting > - Send a reminder for the meeting > - Update the wiki page > - Chair during the meetings > - Create a summary and the IRC log > and everything which I forgot right now > > All volunteers are welcome. Take the opportunity to bring your area > forward and become one of the meeting leaders. > > I hope that we will have leaders for all three parts of the world within > two weeks. > > Regards, > > Fabian > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meetings -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From pablo at proyectofedora.com.ar Thu Nov 8 01:07:56 2007 From: pablo at proyectofedora.com.ar (Pablo Barrera) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 22:07:56 -0300 (ART) Subject: [Ambassadors] Leader for the monthly meetings In-Reply-To: <473230EB.5010900@fedoraproject.org> References: <4727B983.7040904@fedoraproject.org> <473230EB.5010900@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <63973.190.50.194.82.1194484076.squirrel@www.proyectofedora.com.ar> Hi From Buenos Aires I think that you can be the leader without no problem. I think that leave behind the idea of a meeting is a pity. But I think too that could be useful, point the date and time at make a test of concurrence. When more meetings more ambassadors can join the meetings. I can be the leader meeting for my area (southamerica), probably make a area ambassador meeting and after 2 months make a meeting bewtween local leader meeting ambassador could be a solution. Other tips: Next week, Latinamerican ambassadors show their faces on Latinoware 2007. Next week, we will meet Ambassadors from Brazil, Peru, Argentina and Venezuela. This will be an exciting time to reorganize the zone and put Latinamerican in a more participative role in Fedora Wordlwide brotherhood. Waiting for feedback send u my greeting from a rayni night in Buenos Aires Fedorizate! -- Pablo Barrera http://fedoraproject.org/Wiki/PabloBarrera pablo at proyectofedora.com.ar El Mie, 7 de Noviembre de 2007, 6:40 pm, Fabian Affolter escribi?: > Hi all, > > A lot of people agreed with the idea of a monthly ambassador meeting. > But till now, nobody want to be a meeting leader for an area. Hmmm, what > to do now? > > - Delete the idea of Ambassador meeting in your minds > - Wait till there are some volunteers > - Let FAmSCo assign the task to anybody in every area > - Let FAmSCo be in charge for the future meetings and their handling > - Do nothing and go on up to now (Cancel all meeting due to lack of > attendance) > > For EMEA, I could be the leader for the meetings (but this was > originally not the idea...). I guess that all were looking for a > person who is more reliable than me. > > Regards, > > Fabian > > Fabian Affolter wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> We need for all three areas a leader and a co-leader or a replacement >> for the new monthly Ambassadors Meeting. The leader hasn't to do all >> stuff alone, of course. She/He is the person in charge about the >> meeting but she/he can delegate the issues to ambassadors how are able >> to help in the same region. >> >> Your mission will be: >> >> First part >> >> - Fix the time for the meeting in your region. Keep the wishes of your >> ambassadors in mind, please. >> - Fix the day (check [1] for free time slots) >> - Invite all persons in your area to participate >> and everything else in your head... >> >> Second part >> >> - Collect the topic for the meeting >> - Send a reminder for the meeting >> - Update the wiki page >> - Chair during the meetings >> - Create a summary and the IRC log >> and everything which I forgot right now >> >> All volunteers are welcome. Take the opportunity to bring your area >> forward and become one of the meeting leaders. >> >> I hope that we will have leaders for all three parts of the world within >> two weeks. >> >> Regards, >> >> Fabian >> >> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meetings > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Thu Nov 8 01:33:25 2007 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:33:25 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Leader for the monthly meetings In-Reply-To: <63973.190.50.194.82.1194484076.squirrel@www.proyectofedora.com.ar> References: <4727B983.7040904@fedoraproject.org> <473230EB.5010900@fedoraproject.org> <63973.190.50.194.82.1194484076.squirrel@www.proyectofedora.com.ar> Message-ID: <47326765.2040805@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 +1 Pablo Barrera escreveu: > Hi From Buenos Aires > I think that you can be the leader without no problem. I think that > leave behind the idea of a meeting is a pity. But I think too that > could be useful, point the date and time at make a test of concurrence. > When more meetings more ambassadors can join the meetings. > > I can be the leader meeting for my area (southamerica), probably make a > area ambassador meeting and after 2 months make a meeting bewtween local > leader meeting ambassador could be a solution. > > Other tips: Next week, Latinamerican ambassadors show their faces on > Latinoware 2007. > > Next week, we will meet Ambassadors from Brazil, Peru, Argentina and > Venezuela. This will be an exciting time to reorganize the zone and put > Latinamerican in a more participative role in Fedora Wordlwide > brotherhood. > > Waiting for feedback send u my greeting from a rayni night in Buenos Aires > > Fedorizate! > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHMmdgPg3HAC1vlg4RAs1EAJwKDqVtcTzdjHaWGh1EmeGpdqtFyQCePThx uS4nyJyTCtOkOQFDRLIdCqo= =isUl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fzied at dottn.com Thu Nov 8 09:26:01 2007 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:26:01 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Leader for the monthly meetings In-Reply-To: <473230EB.5010900@fedoraproject.org> References: <4727B983.7040904@fedoraproject.org> <473230EB.5010900@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Fabian, You'll be more than welcome as leader. I am from Tunisia and we 3 ambassadors here. regards, Zied. On Nov 7, 2007 10:40 PM, Fabian Affolter wrote: > Hi all, > > A lot of people agreed with the idea of a monthly ambassador meeting. > But till now, nobody want to be a meeting leader for an area. Hmmm, what > to do now? > > - Delete the idea of Ambassador meeting in your minds > - Wait till there are some volunteers > - Let FAmSCo assign the task to anybody in every area > - Let FAmSCo be in charge for the future meetings and their handling > - Do nothing and go on up to now (Cancel all meeting due to lack of > attendance) > > For EMEA, I could be the leader for the meetings (but this was > originally not the idea...). I guess that all were looking for a > person who is more reliable than me. > > Regards, > > Fabian > > Fabian Affolter wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > We need for all three areas a leader and a co-leader or a replacement > > for the new monthly Ambassadors Meeting. The leader hasn't to do all > > stuff alone, of course. She/He is the person in charge about the > > meeting but she/he can delegate the issues to ambassadors how are able > > to help in the same region. > > > > Your mission will be: > > > > First part > > > > - Fix the time for the meeting in your region. Keep the wishes of your > > ambassadors in mind, please. > > - Fix the day (check [1] for free time slots) > > - Invite all persons in your area to participate > > and everything else in your head... > > > > Second part > > > > - Collect the topic for the meeting > > - Send a reminder for the meeting > > - Update the wiki page > > - Chair during the meetings > > - Create a summary and the IRC log > > and everything which I forgot right now > > > > All volunteers are welcome. Take the opportunity to bring your area > > forward and become one of the meeting leaders. > > > > I hope that we will have leaders for all three parts of the world within > > two weeks. > > > > Regards, > > > > Fabian > > > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meetings > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Zied Fakhfakh Dot TN - CTO Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 | Tel : +216 71 886112 El Manar II | Fax : +216 71 885499 2092 - Tunis | mob : +216 22 535604 Tunisia | web : http://www.dottn.com GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nayyares at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 09:55:48 2007 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:55:48 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Leader for the monthly meetings In-Reply-To: References: <4727B983.7040904@fedoraproject.org> <473230EB.5010900@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30711080155g8205e9bg4901258b33bdf39e@mail.gmail.com> +1 On Nov 8, 2007 11:26 AM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > Fabian, > You'll be more than welcome as leader. > I am from Tunisia and we 3 ambassadors here. > > regards, > Zied. > > > On Nov 7, 2007 10:40 PM, Fabian Affolter < fab at fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > A lot of people agreed with the idea of a monthly ambassador meeting. > > But till now, nobody want to be a meeting leader for an area. Hmmm, what > > to do now? > > > > - Delete the idea of Ambassador meeting in your minds > > - Wait till there are some volunteers > > - Let FAmSCo assign the task to anybody in every area > > - Let FAmSCo be in charge for the future meetings and their handling > > - Do nothing and go on up to now (Cancel all meeting due to lack of > > attendance) > > > > For EMEA, I could be the leader for the meetings (but this was > > originally not the idea...). I guess that all were looking for a > > person who is more reliable than me. > > > > Regards, > > > > Fabian > > > > Fabian Affolter wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > We need for all three areas a leader and a co-leader or a replacement > > > for the new monthly Ambassadors Meeting. The leader hasn't to do all > > > stuff alone, of course. She/He is the person in charge about the > > > meeting but she/he can delegate the issues to ambassadors how are able > > > to help in the same region. > > > > > > Your mission will be: > > > > > > First part > > > > > > - Fix the time for the meeting in your region. Keep the wishes of > > your > > > ambassadors in mind, please. > > > - Fix the day (check [1] for free time slots) > > > - Invite all persons in your area to participate > > > and everything else in your head... > > > > > > Second part > > > > > > - Collect the topic for the meeting > > > - Send a reminder for the meeting > > > - Update the wiki page > > > - Chair during the meetings > > > - Create a summary and the IRC log > > > and everything which I forgot right now > > > > > > All volunteers are welcome. Take the opportunity to bring your area > > > forward and become one of the meeting leaders. > > > > > > I hope that we will have leaders for all three parts of the world > > within > > > two weeks. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Fabian > > > > > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meetings > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > -- > Zied Fakhfakh > Dot TN - CTO > Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 | Tel : +216 71 886112 > El Manar II | Fax : +216 71 885499 > 2092 - Tunis | mob : +216 22 535604 > Tunisia | web : http://www.dottn.com > GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From nihedmm at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 11:57:57 2007 From: nihedmm at gmail.com (nihed mbarek) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 12:57:57 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Leader for the monthly meetings In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30711080155g8205e9bg4901258b33bdf39e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4727B983.7040904@fedoraproject.org> <473230EB.5010900@fedoraproject.org> <8e1ee2a30711080155g8205e9bg4901258b33bdf39e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5bddd8fd0711080357q3c31490bre30deac197631481@mail.gmail.com> +1 2007/11/8, Nayyar Ahmad : > > +1 > > On Nov 8, 2007 11:26 AM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > > > Fabian, > > You'll be more than welcome as leader. > > I am from Tunisia and we 3 ambassadors here. > > > > regards, > > Zied. > > > > > > On Nov 7, 2007 10:40 PM, Fabian Affolter < fab at fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > A lot of people agreed with the idea of a monthly ambassador meeting. > > > But till now, nobody want to be a meeting leader for an area. Hmmm, > > > what > > > to do now? > > > > > > - Delete the idea of Ambassador meeting in your minds > > > - Wait till there are some volunteers > > > - Let FAmSCo assign the task to anybody in every area > > > - Let FAmSCo be in charge for the future meetings and their handling > > > - Do nothing and go on up to now (Cancel all meeting due to lack of > > > attendance) > > > > > > For EMEA, I could be the leader for the meetings (but this was > > > originally not the idea...). I guess that all were looking for a > > > person who is more reliable than me. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Fabian > > > > > > Fabian Affolter wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > We need for all three areas a leader and a co-leader or a > > > replacement > > > > for the new monthly Ambassadors Meeting. The leader hasn't to do > > > all > > > > stuff alone, of course. She/He is the person in charge about the > > > > meeting but she/he can delegate the issues to ambassadors how are > > > able > > > > to help in the same region. > > > > > > > > Your mission will be: > > > > > > > > First part > > > > > > > > - Fix the time for the meeting in your region. Keep the wishes of > > > your > > > > ambassadors in mind, please. > > > > - Fix the day (check [1] for free time slots) > > > > - Invite all persons in your area to participate > > > > and everything else in your head... > > > > > > > > Second part > > > > > > > > - Collect the topic for the meeting > > > > - Send a reminder for the meeting > > > > - Update the wiki page > > > > - Chair during the meetings > > > > - Create a summary and the IRC log > > > > and everything which I forgot right now > > > > > > > > All volunteers are welcome. Take the opportunity to bring your area > > > > forward and become one of the meeting leaders. > > > > > > > > I hope that we will have leaders for all three parts of the world > > > within > > > > two weeks. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Fabian > > > > > > > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meetings > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Zied Fakhfakh > > Dot TN - CTO > > Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 | Tel : +216 71 886112 > > El Manar II | Fax : +216 71 885499 > > 2092 - Tunis | mob : +216 22 535604 > > Tunisia | web : http://www.dottn.com > > GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > -- > Nayyar Ahmad > RHCE (ID:804006858622745) > Skype: nayyares > Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- M'BAREK Med Nihed, Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We have decided to translate the announce in english so that those that would like to present Fedora 8 on their blog or on other website could do it quit easily. The translation is far from perfect, so I would advice you to have a look at it and to correct what needs to be. Hope it helps, Best regards, P.Yves The announce is past as text here and attached as .odt with this email ====================================================================== Announce Fedora 8 On this autumn period where the best fruit are matured, it comes the time to harvest the new Fedora release. This new Fedora is named ?WereWolf?, but do not be afraid this release will bring you all the safety and stability that you could dream of. The main point of this new version is without any doubt SIMPLICITY After 5 months of intense work, and in order to provide you the latest technologies, this new release will be for you as for us a major evolution. The major new features are (among others): Codek Buddy (aka codeina) : By default Fedora does not provide non free codecs. This is sometime a problem for the end users who has to install them on their own. This is the reason why Codec Buddy has been created. This tool is able to help you to install the required codecs to helps you to listen to your MP3 or watch your movies, in a very simple way. PulseAudio: (NTBR) Fedora 8 provides the last generation of sound server. The goal is to offer to the music fan a great improvement to the support of low latency. The new technology opens the gate to new functionalities like decrease automatically the volume of the noise when you are watching a movie. System-config-firewall : This new interface is much more accessible for the new Fedora users. It is a very intuitive interface thanks to its step by step configuration. System-config-selinux : Nowadays, the configuration of SELinux is distinct from the one of the firewall, in a new user friendly interface. System-config-printer : (NTBR) The printer configuration system has also been changed. During the installation, it will now create automatically the printing queue, this is the end of the steps where so much users has failed on the past. NetworkManager 0.7 : Entirely rewritten in order to satisfy to the wired and wireless network, giving a higher speed of connection and a better integration (thanks among other to the Dbus API and the WPA for the wireless). Better laptop support : Thanks to the information returned by ?smolt? the Fedora team has improved the management of the Suspend to Ram and Suspend to Disk system, and the recognition of the multimedia keys on the keyboard. Package management : Pirut (a GUI for yum, the package manager) has been updated in order to meet the users' demand. It is now able to manage directly the repositories from this GUI, simplifying a lot the work of new users. Fedora 8's theme : For each new Fedora release a new theme is created. For Fedora 8, the icons, the windows' border have also been changed to fit the theme. This project is named ?Nodoka?. The desktop background is named ?Infinity?. You could say, ?yes, well it is just a new desktop background?, however the main innovation for this background is that it changes over the day, from the blue in the morning to a relax and peacefull purple on the evening. Virtualization : Virtualization is an important part that more and more people use, within this new release, virtualization has also evolved. The safety has been greatly improved thanks to a new library that allows you to use the SSL/TLS protocol to secure your access. The other modifications are on the graphical interface of virt-manager, more user friendly and providing the last functionalities. FEL (Fedora Electronic Lab) : This new product made in Fedora has been created by the SIG (Special Interest Group) ?embedded?. This project try to implement as much applications as possible. This software and tools are focus on a electronic theme in order to provide a live-cd to universities. For the developers, we did not forget that the last version of eclipse 3.3 is available for Fedora. This new version provides a lot of new functions: JDT : for Java development. CDT : Editor, builder and debugger for C and C++. Autotools : plugin for CDT to support autoconf, and automake (among others). Mylyn : first interface that allows the developers to request the Bugzilla's database. PHPEclipse : plugin for PHP development of test. Specfile editor : plugin for the SpecFiles for RPM creation. PyDev : plugin for Python ... In order to get this new release, you can go to this page : http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora The Fedora ambassador, from the FedoraProject. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Fedora-8-Announce.odt Type: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text Size: 14160 bytes Desc: not available URL: From alajal at gmail.com Thu Nov 8 21:27:50 2007 From: alajal at gmail.com (Mustafa Qasim) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 02:27:50 +0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] My First Fedora Seminar Message-ID: <2c21bbf00711081327w4a0a0d98ne02a8e17bf3f04bf@mail.gmail.com> Hello! I want to organize a Fedora Seminar at my university campus for my university fellows as soon as I got comfortable with what I am going to say. I am not a Linux Guru or FOSS advocate nor got much involved in Fedora Project. I can't figure out what should I say and what not, where should I limit my seminar. I am using Fedora for a couple of months but didn't know why I am not confident enough to play this role? Ooh no it's not that I can't stand before people and say something but my confidence is what do I know and how much I've grip over my topic. If I am confident with what I am gonna present then no matter there are 15 folks before me or 5 thousand :) I've listened/seen people holding a LOT of experience like System Programming Level etc. delivering speech on Linux related issues so, can't imagine how a newbie or a man in street can spread the word Fedora. Sometimes I think that I need a 10+ years experience in coding kernel and building Linux codes to be able to address on anything in Linux. Did u folks got my point? I've an idea that I should do a survey like asking folks there what they think Free software and Linux is, what application are there on daily usage list in their Windows PC..bla bla .... After that I think that I can draw a sketch of what my seminar would be like? could u folks help me to extract maximum benefit from that survey? Any other Idea? Thanks in Advance :) -- Regards, Mustafa Qasim Lahore, Pakistan Cell: 0321-6614972 URL: http://www.mustu.info Registered Linux User# 441709. From nayyares at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 06:34:00 2007 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 08:34:00 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Any Active Pakistani Ambassador! In-Reply-To: <2c21bbf00711080626l2f050fc7qf2ddebefe6b75204@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c21bbf00711080626l2f050fc7qf2ddebefe6b75204@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30711082234m2364ba34ydf8b077bc151dcd2@mail.gmail.com> Hello Qasim, I d'nt think you could find active Ambassadors around you, but you can speak with me, i can provide you any sort of support as an Ex-Pakistani Fedora Ambassador :-) we can discuss it in private. cheers On Nov 8, 2007 4:26 PM, Mustafa Qasim wrote: > Hello! > Active Fedora Ambassador OR willing to be ambassador from > Pakistan? Kindly reply to this post. > > -- > Regards, > Mustafa Qasim > Lahore, Pakistan > Cell: 0321-6614972 > URL: http://www.mustu.info > > Registered Linux User# 441709. > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sudheer.s at binaryvibes.co.in Fri Nov 9 08:23:31 2007 From: sudheer.s at binaryvibes.co.in (Sudheer Satyanarayana) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:53:31 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] My First Fedora Seminar In-Reply-To: <2c21bbf00711081327w4a0a0d98ne02a8e17bf3f04bf@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c21bbf00711081327w4a0a0d98ne02a8e17bf3f04bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47341903.80809@binaryvibes.co.in> Mustafa Qasim wrote: > Hello! > I want to organize a Fedora Seminar at my university campus > for my university fellows as soon as I got comfortable with what I am > going to say. I am not a Linux Guru or FOSS advocate nor got much > involved in Fedora Project. I can't figure out what should I say and > what not, where should I limit my seminar. Have you taken a look at Fedora Talking Points at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/TalkingPoints? > I am using Fedora for a > couple of months but didn't know why I am not confident enough to play > this role? Ooh no it's not that I can't stand before people and say > something but my confidence is what do I know and how much I've grip > over my topic. If I am confident with what I am gonna present then no > matter there are 15 folks before me or 5 thousand :) > > I've listened/seen people holding a LOT of experience like System > Programming Level etc. delivering speech on Linux related issues so, > can't imagine how a newbie or a man in street can spread the word > Fedora. Sometimes I think that I need a 10+ years experience in coding > kernel and building Linux codes to be able to address on anything in > Linux. > > Did u folks got my point? > Is your audience tech savvy? Whenever I go for a talk, I first visualize my audience. I chalk out bullet points. I spend some time researching about the information that would be interesting to the audience. In almost all the GNU/Linux events I have participated in, I have talked about free software, GPL, distros, open source software applications and community. Fedora community would be a great topic to discuss in any Linux event. > I've an idea that I should do a survey like asking folks there what > they think Free software and Linux is, what application are there on > daily usage list in their Windows PC..bla bla .... > Consider talking about the FUDs thrown on free software and Linux. Squash all those FUDs and encourage people to start using free software, if they haven't already. > After that I think that I can draw a sketch of what my seminar would be like? > > could u folks help me to extract maximum benefit from that survey? > > Any other Idea? > > Thanks in Advance :) > > > -- With Warm Regards, Sudheer. S http://www.binaryvibes.co.in From fhornain at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 08:38:02 2007 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:38:02 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for Developer Rooms + Stands] In-Reply-To: <3161376e0711050111k1580740dq6927fb01baeeb714@mail.gmail.com> References: <1194207334.19160.23.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <3161376e0711050111k1580740dq6927fb01baeeb714@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0711090038j139101aere6d5f0b71b9462e8@mail.gmail.com> Dear * FYI, I have receive a confirmation from FOSDEM team that our Booth/Dev Room request have been recorded. It does not mean it have been accepted. I would receive a confirmation of that at the beginning of December. I will keep you in touch about that. if you have any comment or question, feel free to add a post. Have fun with FC8. Kind regards Frederic Hornain Fedora Belgium http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain On Nov 5, 2007 10:11 AM, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Dear *, > > As I did last month, I am going to resend a request to " > devrooms at fosdem.org" in order to reserve a dev room for Fedora/Red Hat as > we did last year as well as two booths - two tables - for Fedora/Jboss/Red > Hat. > > If you have any remarks, feel free to contact me. > > Best Regards > Fred > > > > On 11/4/07, Gerold Kassube < gerold at lugd.org> wrote: > > > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > > > Von: Pascal Bleser < loki at fosdem.org> > > > Antwort an: FOSDEM visitors > > > An: fosdem at sophos.fosdem.org > > > Betreff: [FOSDEM] Call for Developer Rooms + Stands > > > Datum: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:01:23 +0100 > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > ... starts now: http://fosdem.org/2008/call_for_devrooms > > > > > > Deadline: Monday 2007-11-26, 23:59 CET > > > > > > For further information/questions/..., please contact > > devrooms at fosdem.org > > > > > > For projects that have already sent a request, please do send it > > again, > > > including the information as asked for on the URL above. > > > > > > cheers > > > - -- > > > -o) Pascal Bleser http://www.fosdem.org > > > /\\ FOSDEM 2008 :: 23 + 24 February 2008 in Brussels > > > _\_v Free and Opensource Software Developers European Meeting > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) > > > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > > > > > iD8DBQFHLiUTr3NMWliFcXcRAgHNAJ9KvshC62d+JClcNhxi/jS8zQM23wCeN702 > > > 5xElr/ycDGcJAAVKJjQ4Hbg= > > > =RQz2 > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > _______________________________________________ > > > FOSDEM mailing list > > > FOSDEM at lists.fosdem.org > > > http://lists.fosdem.org/mailman/listinfo/fosdem > > > > > -- > > Gerold Kassube > > -Vorstandsvorsitzender- > > > > Linux Usergroup L?rrach e.V. > > Marie-Curie-Strasse 8 > > 79539 L?rrach > > _ > > ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) > > - against HTML email X > > & vCards / \ > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Olpc mailing list > olpc-open at laptop.org -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wolfy at nobugconsulting.ro Fri Nov 9 11:34:56 2007 From: wolfy at nobugconsulting.ro (Manuel Wolfshant) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:34:56 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 8 Release Party Message-ID: <473445E0.9060904@nobugconsulting.ro> Hello ! A fellow Fedorian had the idea of a small release party. So we did it and the result is online at http://wdl.lug.ro/F8. Note that most of the people in the pictures are members of the Romanian Linux User Group, but not necessarily Fedora users. But Linux unites us all, right ? Manuel From redbyte.labs at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 12:14:18 2007 From: redbyte.labs at gmail.com (Kirill "REDbyte" Novikov) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 17:14:18 +0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 8 Release Party In-Reply-To: <473445E0.9060904@nobugconsulting.ro> References: <473445E0.9060904@nobugconsulting.ro> Message-ID: Hey! Nice Idea. I'm Uzbekistan Linux Community Coordinator. We gonna have a Mandriva Install Fest in Tashkent soon, so It could be a Great Linux Release Party feat. Fedora 8 and Mandriva 2008 releases presentation. We've already got a place to celebrate and little piece of sponsorship. And we're estimating about 100 guests on the party. So is it possible to get some hand out such as a few t-shirts or caps and a couple distro DVD's to copy it on the party and maybe some poster with Fedora logo? Regards, Kirill "REDbyte" Novikov 2007/11/9, Manuel Wolfshant : > > Hello ! > > A fellow Fedorian had the idea of a small release party. So we did > it and the result is online at http://wdl.lug.ro/F8. > Note that most of the people in the pictures are members of the > Romanian Linux User Group, but not necessarily Fedora users. But Linux > unites us all, right ? > > Manuel > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fedora.lin at gmail.com Fri Nov 9 12:43:12 2007 From: fedora.lin at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Lin) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:43:12 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Leader for the monthly meetings In-Reply-To: <473230EB.5010900@fedoraproject.org> References: <4727B983.7040904@fedoraproject.org> <473230EB.5010900@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Hi, I like to me volunteer, but, I belive, that as I am locate at Paraguay, is not a good choice, because the region is North an South America. But if that is not problem, I am ready. Juan Carlos Lin 2007/11/7, Fabian Affolter : > > Hi all, > > A lot of people agreed with the idea of a monthly ambassador meeting. > But till now, nobody want to be a meeting leader for an area. Hmmm, what > to do now? > > - Delete the idea of Ambassador meeting in your minds > - Wait till there are some volunteers > - Let FAmSCo assign the task to anybody in every area > - Let FAmSCo be in charge for the future meetings and their handling > - Do nothing and go on up to now (Cancel all meeting due to lack of > attendance) > > For EMEA, I could be the leader for the meetings (but this was > originally not the idea...). I guess that all were looking for a > person who is more reliable than me. > > Regards, > > Fabian > > Fabian Affolter wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > We need for all three areas a leader and a co-leader or a replacement > > for the new monthly Ambassadors Meeting. The leader hasn't to do all > > stuff alone, of course. She/He is the person in charge about the > > meeting but she/he can delegate the issues to ambassadors how are able > > to help in the same region. > > > > Your mission will be: > > > > First part > > > > - Fix the time for the meeting in your region. Keep the wishes of your > > ambassadors in mind, please. > > - Fix the day (check [1] for free time slots) > > - Invite all persons in your area to participate > > and everything else in your head... > > > > Second part > > > > - Collect the topic for the meeting > > - Send a reminder for the meeting > > - Update the wiki page > > - Chair during the meetings > > - Create a summary and the IRC log > > and everything which I forgot right now > > > > All volunteers are welcome. Take the opportunity to bring your area > > forward and become one of the meeting leaders. > > > > I hope that we will have leaders for all three parts of the world within > > two weeks. > > > > Regards, > > > > Fabian > > > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meetings > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Juan Carlos Lin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 9 18:15:26 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:15:26 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 8 Release Party In-Reply-To: <473445E0.9060904@nobugconsulting.ro> References: <473445E0.9060904@nobugconsulting.ro> Message-ID: <369bce3b0711091015m26c9b59te52aa81521e9f577@mail.gmail.com> On 11/9/07, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: > Hello ! > > A fellow Fedorian had the idea of a small release party. So we did > it and the result is online at http://wdl.lug.ro/F8. > Note that most of the people in the pictures are members of the > Romanian Linux User Group, but not necessarily Fedora users. But Linux > unites us all, right ? > > Manuel Thank you for sharing the photos. Looks like you had a great time in the release party. :) Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From mrtom at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 9 18:29:20 2007 From: mrtom at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 19:29:20 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAD EMEA (2007-11-23 - 2007-11-25) In-Reply-To: <4730A77F.8070905@yahoo.fr> References: <1189853069.3253.8.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <46F42AD5.50902@fedoraproject.org> <1190742105.3493.1.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <20071021191446.23c3d937@fedoraproject.org> <20071021191743.59192ae9@fedoraproject.org> <471E2D11.40705@yahoo.fr> <1193167060.3525.1.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <1193174492.3525.7.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <471E666B.3030807@yahoo.fr> <4730A77F.8070905@yahoo.fr> Message-ID: <20071109192920.0c097416@agnetha.mrtomlinux> Le Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:42:23 +0100, pingou a ??crit : > hi all, > > I just ask for update here... > > I mean the more time we wait, the more expansive the plan ticket are, > the less chance there are that we can come... > > Hope to hear news from you, > Best regards, > P.Yves Thanks Pierre-Yves for giving me the offlist answer to the question you made here. I would first recommend everyone to use the mailing list for discussing this subject and avoid personal mails, so as everyone could get the right info at the right moment. Then according to what Pierre Yves told me, the FedoraProject offered ambassadors for the FAD the nights at the hotel, but can't invest in transportation. That's really disappointing, and we could really wonder how the FP consider the FAD : For this kind of European meeting, it is quite ununderstandable that the hotel is offered. I would have offered the transport (train, car, anyway you want as long as you can justify it and say before the FAD : "i'm going there and I expect to spend XXX? there because of the train"). In fact, in Europe and anywhere, what is very expensive for people is transportation and not sleeping in a hotel. What do we really need to run a fad ? This question could be rephrased by : What do we need for people to talk in front of each other, at the same time and place. The answer is very simple : a table and chairs ! And we found them in most hotels anywhere in Europe. Because what is important is that people could move, to meet and discuss. Not that the thickness of the matress they would sleep on :). You can always take a low cost hotel on you own or ask for some friend / family / local ambassadors to sleep at their homes, for free or very little money. What I want to say is that : 1. We don't need such a luxurious hotel to run the FAD 2. All we need is a table and chairs (most *normal* hotels have them) 3. We need to be reimbursed what *is* expensive : transportation, and not the hotel 4. Some hotels (low cost and high cost ones) could / should have been suggested instead of imposing one to the group, and imposing them to pay for something they can hardly decide of the price. Finally, I would like to remind everybody that the FedoraProject is composed of many profiles and I would retain two of them : employees and students. Thanks to them, you can already understand that they don't have the same revenue and the same way of life. Thus, I have to announce you that I don't have 250? to spend for Fedora. Once again, I am very disappointed, because one again, I will miss the fad. Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From simon at simline.de Fri Nov 9 18:59:25 2007 From: simon at simline.de (JoergSimon) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 19:59:25 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAD EMEA (2007-11-23 - 2007-11-25) In-Reply-To: <20071109192920.0c097416@agnetha.mrtomlinux> References: <1189853069.3253.8.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <4730A77F.8070905@yahoo.fr> <20071109192920.0c097416@agnetha.mrtomlinux> Message-ID: <200711091959.35339.simon@simline.de> Hi Thomas, Am Freitag, 9. November 2007 19:29:20 schrieb Thomas Canniot: > Thanks to them, you can already understand that they > don't have the same revenue and the same way of life. If think the FAD is at the same place then last year - and because there are so different people - we sleep at "Schloss Beugen" a evangelic Meeting Place open for everybody who will not need "hotel standard" but want clean payable rooms and we have a good central infrastructure with Airport Basel > Thus, I have to announce you that I don't have 250? to spend for Fedora. > Once again, I am very disappointed, because one again, I will miss the > fad. We are a community - and after your mail - you come is more important then ever - because i sense differences that we all need to discuss! I will drive by car with Robert (rsc) and I will pick up Chitlesh in Strassbourg on my way to FAD. So i have one place left for you - what are your costs to come to strassbourg by train - is this a possibility? We will find a way - you must come, please! CU -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From simon at simline.de Fri Nov 9 20:38:14 2007 From: simon at simline.de (JoergSimon) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 21:38:14 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAD EMEA (2007-11-23 - 2007-11-25) In-Reply-To: <20071109212227.31a752c6@agnetha.mrtomlinux> References: <1189853069.3253.8.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <200711091959.35339.simon@simline.de> <20071109212227.31a752c6@agnetha.mrtomlinux> Message-ID: <200711092138.19822.simon@simline.de> Am Freitag, 9. 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URL: From fab at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 9 22:03:49 2007 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:03:49 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] OpenExpo 2007 Berne Message-ID: <4734D945.6000906@fedoraproject.org> Hi all, This evening I made the registration for the next OpenExpo [1] in Berne in spring 2008. For further details check out the Event page [2] at the Fedora wiki. Till now Sandro S. and Joerg S. will support me. Thanks guys. If you have two days left, you are welcome to join us, too. Regards, Fabian [1] http://www.openexpo.ch [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/OpenExpo/OpenExpo2008_Berne From fzied at dottn.com Fri Nov 9 22:27:58 2007 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 23:27:58 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 8 Release Party In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0711091015m26c9b59te52aa81521e9f577@mail.gmail.com> References: <473445E0.9060904@nobugconsulting.ro> <369bce3b0711091015m26c9b59te52aa81521e9f577@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, In Tunisia, we will be celebrating F8 launch day on November 24th, we will organize an install party. Cheers, Zied. On Nov 9, 2007 7:15 PM, Thomas Chung wrote: > On 11/9/07, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: > > Hello ! > > > > A fellow Fedorian had the idea of a small release party. So we did > > it and the result is online at http://wdl.lug.ro/F8. > > Note that most of the people in the pictures are members of the > > Romanian Linux User Group, but not necessarily Fedora users. 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URL: From fab at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 9 22:34:22 2007 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:34:22 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Leader for the monthly meetings In-Reply-To: References: <4727B983.7040904@fedoraproject.org> <473230EB.5010900@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4734E06E.1070409@fedoraproject.org> Juan Carlos Lin wrote: > Hi, > > I like to me volunteer, but, I belive, that as I am locate at , > is not a good choice, because the region is North an South America. > > But if that is not problem, I am ready. Thanks. Paraguay is in the middle of South America, I see no problem because you can choose the time of the meeting and so all countries are more or less +/- 1h. Add yourself to the table at this page [1] and complete the column for your region. Regards, Fabian [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings From gerold at lugd.org Sat Nov 10 09:26:18 2007 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:26:18 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAD EMEA (2007-11-23 - 2007-11-25) In-Reply-To: <20071109192920.0c097416@agnetha.mrtomlinux> References: <1189853069.3253.8.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <46F42AD5.50902@fedoraproject.org> <1190742105.3493.1.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <20071021191446.23c3d937@fedoraproject.org> <20071021191743.59192ae9@fedoraproject.org> <471E2D11.40705@yahoo.fr> <1193167060.3525.1.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <1193174492.3525.7.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <471E666B.3030807@yahoo.fr> <4730A77F.8070905@yahoo.fr> <20071109192920.0c097416@agnetha.mrtomlinux> Message-ID: <1194686778.4536.34.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> Dear Mr. Tom and all others, Am Freitag, den 09.11.2007, 19:29 +0100 schrieb Thomas Canniot: > Le Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:42:23 +0100, > pingou a ??crit : > > > hi all, > > > > I just ask for update here... > > > > I mean the more time we wait, the more expansive the plan ticket are, > > the less chance there are that we can come... > > > > Hope to hear news from you, > > Best regards, > > P.Yves > > > Thanks Pierre-Yves for giving me the offlist answer to the question you > made here. > > I would first recommend everyone to use the mailing list for discussing > this subject and avoid personal mails, so as everyone could get > the right info at the right moment. ^^ Great Mr. Tom, here you point out to answer to everyone and miscredit myself because I answers pingou in private and tell *only him* that FP (named: Max Spevack) is able to help and pays the rooms and breakfast ... YOU personally answered Joergs demand to have you at the FAD (sended to the ML as you requested) also in private; a few later than you wrote this "Hey, we in France don't need a FAD; so why you stupid other European need" ... It that the way you like to form national or regional Teams? > > Then according to what Pierre Yves told me, the FedoraProject offered > ambassadors for the FAD the nights at the hotel, but can't invest in > transportation. That's really disappointing, and we could really wonder > how the FP consider the FAD : For this kind of European meeting, it is > quite ununderstandable that the hotel is offered. I would have offered > the transport (train, car, anyway you want as long as you can justify > it and say before the FAD : "i'm going there and I expect to spend XXX? > there because of the train"). In fact, in Europe and anywhere, what is > very expensive for people is transportation and not sleeping in a hotel. ^^ What is fair to everyone? The one like to arrange flying, the other preferes traveling by train or by car ... The other one likes to travel with others so the way is very, very different how to "arrive" at the FAD .... ... and this also depends to the costs! BUT it is always and for everybody the same price for a room to stay over night. And from my point of view it is more important to have a full day of work face-to-face instead of 200 IRC meetings or TelCo-Calls. To your complain "Why at this f*** guy near to Basel in sh*** Germany [remark: thats what personally I understand what you're saying everytime]; It it not my primary duty to organise FADs or fairs near to my "home" it is because I know a little bit around here ... ... and unfortunately it is also "central" in Europe. We have here France, Switzerland, Germany as Countrys reachable in 20 minutes! We have an airport (Basel, Moulhouse, Freiburg), we have a big railway station BAsel and last but not least we have a high concentration of (yes I have to say it) German Ambassadors around 200 - 300 kms like Robert, Jens, Joerg, Florian, Jan, Stefan, Andreas; don't forget ALL Swiss Ambassadors Fabian, Sandro and the Austrian like Claus or Oliver ... FAD is for this people who will attend and are able to help; it is a "planing and organisational meeting" for the Ambassadors who are willing to help covering EUROPEAN fairs, Events or whatelse. Everybody is invited and who is near or far from us to attend and bring his issues to us as a TEAM! In this Gremium we decide in which events we want to push our power to bring fedora forward ... By gosh, Mr. Tom ... this is not my private meeting, it is a "come together from EMEAs Ambassadors"! > > What do we really need to run a fad ? This question could be rephrased > by : What do we need for people to talk in front of each other, at the > same time and place. The answer is very simple : a table and chairs ! > And we found them in most hotels anywhere in Europe. Because what is > important is that people could move, to meet and discuss. Not that the > thickness of the matress they would sleep on :). You can always take a > low cost hotel on you own or ask for some friend / family / local > ambassadors to sleep at their homes, for free or very little money. ^^ see above! > > What I want to say is that : > 1. We don't need such a luxurious hotel to run the FAD ^^ correct, you can come saturday in the morning (mostly we start WORKING at 9 or 10 a.m.) and you can leave after we're ready with work at 10 or 11 p.m.; no doubt about ... But the other attendees want to have to oppurtunity to see and feel other Ambassadors, their thinking and "tick-ing" and we want to have also fun, discussion face-to-face > 2. All we need is a table and chairs (most *normal* hotels have them) ^^ Yes, maybe we are for the "work" somewhere else; at the university of Basel, in my private house, in a dedicated meeting room; as I told somewhere .... :-) > 3. We need to be reimbursed what *is* expensive : transportation, and > not the hotel ^^ could never be handled and is fair to everybody. If you need to be there or it is important for you to attend and you can't pay for whatever; (this is for all Ambassadors the same!) ASK Max or the project to help! > 4. Some hotels (low cost and high cost ones) could / should have been > suggested instead of imposing one to the group, and imposing them to > pay for something they can hardly decide of the price. ^^ It is up-to-everybody to organise an event (like this) and bring it to everyones attention to make it better ... > > Finally, I would like to remind everybody that the FedoraProject is > composed of many profiles and I would retain two of them : employees > and students. Thanks to them, you can already understand that they > don't have the same revenue and the same way of life. > Thus, I have to announce you that I don't have 250? to spend for Fedora. ^^ It is better not to have a look back what I personally spend out of my pocket to "help" Fedora with my small support I can give but I'm sure if I count all and every pence and I ask Max to pay he'll kick me out. And I'm also sure that there are many more who spend more of their live, money and power to support Fedora with more than your 250 EUR ... But if you need it to attend let me know, I'm also able to help and ask the community to collect the money for you ... > > Once again, I am very disappointed, because one again, I will miss the > fad. Fortunately you can attend. It is a pleasure for all of us to have the President of the french people at the table Finaly: I am pissed of from this mail and it hurts me personally much and I feel very unsatisfied when I read such words. I only want to bring the community, the project and last but not least Fedora forward. And one person begins to ask basicly question because he don't understand what we have practiced some times before and begun to live ... I have now tried to organize several FADs in Rheinfelden, in Berlin (is approx. 800 km away); Linuxtag the last two years and much more and you ask why? Because nobody other will do so or is able to do; I don't know but from my point of view it is much important to do so; and all attendees tell me that this is important what I try to do; so either you like nor you dislike. If you like attend if you dislike stay at home. Just my five cents Gerold -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From mrtom at fedoraproject.org Sat Nov 10 13:11:15 2007 From: mrtom at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:11:15 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAD EMEA (2007-11-23 - 2007-11-25) In-Reply-To: <1194686778.4536.34.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> References: <1189853069.3253.8.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <46F42AD5.50902@fedoraproject.org> <1190742105.3493.1.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <20071021191446.23c3d937@fedoraproject.org> <20071021191743.59192ae9@fedoraproject.org> <471E2D11.40705@yahoo.fr> <1193167060.3525.1.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <1193174492.3525.7.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <471E666B.3030807@yahoo.fr> <4730A77F.8070905@yahoo.fr> <20071109192920.0c097416@agnetha.mrtomlinux> <1194686778.4536.34.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: <20071110141115.7782075a@agnetha.mrtomlinux> Le Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:26:18 +0100, Gerold Kassube a ?crit : > Dear Mr. Tom and all others, > > > Thanks Pierre-Yves for giving me the offlist answer to the question > > you made here. > > > > I would first recommend everyone to use the mailing list for > > discussing this subject and avoid personal mails, so as everyone > > could get the right info at the right moment. > ^^ > Great Mr. Tom, Hey Gerold :) How are you doing ? > here you point out to answer to everyone and miscredit myself because > I answers pingou in private and tell *only him* that FP (named: Max > Spevack) is able to help and pays the rooms and breakfast ... > YOU personally answered Joergs demand to have you at the FAD (sended > to the ML as you requested) also in private; Well, it's because I consider that some subjects are personal ones and that others are private ones. Considering the time and date of my arrival to Strasburg, I guess most ambassadors don't really mind about it at all. However, knowing how much the FAD would cost them may interest *all* the European ambassadors and not pingou alone. Then responding to him personnaly, is a kind of a problem as it won't encourage people to go this FAD, as they don't have all the information at their disposal to organise their trip. > a few later than you > wrote this "Hey, we in France don't need a FAD; so why you stupid > other European need" ... I never said such a thing and never insulted any other European Ambassadors. Maybe I'm not chatty enough to say how much I respect the work of all the Ambassadors, but you can't make me tell things I never wrote / said / thought. > It that the way you like to form national or regional Teams? > > > > > Then according to what Pierre Yves told me, the FedoraProject > > offered ambassadors for the FAD the nights at the hotel, but can't > > invest in transportation. That's really disappointing, and we could > > really wonder how the FP consider the FAD : For this kind of > > European meeting, it is quite ununderstandable that the hotel is > > offered. I would have offered the transport (train, car, anyway you > > want as long as you can justify it and say before the FAD : "i'm > > going there and I expect to spend XXX? there because of the > > train"). In fact, in Europe and anywhere, what is very expensive > > for people is transportation and not sleeping in a hotel. > ^^ > What is fair to everyone? The one like to arrange flying, the other > preferes traveling by train or by car ... The other one likes to > travel with others so the way is very, very different how to "arrive" > at the FAD .... > ... and this also depends to the costs! I understand this is very subjective, and I agree with you that others could have prefered the other reimbursement. > BUT it is always and for everybody the same price for a room to stay > over night. > And from my point of view it is more important to have a full day of > work face-to-face instead of 200 IRC meetings or TelCo-Calls. Of course it is more efficient and I know it don't worry. > To your complain "Why at this f*** guy near to Basel in sh*** Germany > [remark: thats what personally I understand what you're saying > everytime]; Well then you understand it in a very subjective way. I'm not that vulgar in real life :) > It it not my primary duty to organise FADs or fairs near > to my "home" it is because I know a little bit around here ... > ... and unfortunately it is also "central" in Europe. We have here > France, Switzerland, Germany as Countrys reachable in 20 minutes! We > have an airport (Basel, Moulhouse, Freiburg), we have a big railway > station BAsel and last but not least we have a high concentration of > (yes I have to say it) German Ambassadors around 200 - 300 kms like > Robert, Jens, Joerg, Florian, Jan, Stefan, Andreas; don't forget ALL > Swiss Ambassadors Fabian, Sandro and the Austrian like Claus or > Oliver ... OK then you win here. I personaly don't know the local geography near Basel and it remains quite difficult to know where ambassadors are precisely located. In France, we know where is everybody becasue it is people we chat with everybody. And I agree as well that if I tell you that Johan is from Douai and Armel from Nantes, it won't ring a bell to you either. One of our lackness in France is that most ambassadors are from the West cost or from the North of France. > FAD is for this people who will attend and are able to help; it is a > "planing and organisational meeting" for the Ambassadors who are > willing to help covering EUROPEAN fairs, Events or whatelse. > Everybody is invited and who is near or far from us to attend and > bring his issues to us as a TEAM! > In this Gremium we decide in which events we want to push our power to > bring fedora forward ... > By gosh, Mr. Tom ... > this is not my private meeting, it is a "come together from EMEAs > Ambassadors"! I know :) Then, as it is a series of European meeting, why not have the organisation of the FAD turning each year ? This year it is in Basel, next year it could be in Italy, in Poland, in France, in any other country where people are ready to organise it. That could be outstanding and even fairer for everybody. > > What do we really need to run a fad ? This question could be > > rephrased by : What do we need for people to talk in front of each > > other, at the same time and place. The answer is very simple : a > > table and chairs ! And we found them in most hotels anywhere in > > Europe. Because what is important is that people could move, to > > meet and discuss. Not that the thickness of the matress they would > > sleep on :). You can always take a low cost hotel on you own or ask > > for some friend / family / local ambassadors to sleep at their > > homes, for free or very little money. > ^^ > see above! > > > > > What I want to say is that : > > 1. We don't need such a luxurious hotel to run the FAD > ^^ > correct, you can come saturday in the morning (mostly we start WORKING > at 9 or 10 a.m.) and you can leave after we're ready with work at 10 > or 11 p.m.; no doubt about ... > But the other attendees want to have to oppurtunity to see and feel > other Ambassadors, their thinking and "tick-ing" and we want to have > also fun, discussion face-to-face That I will be happy to do as well :) > > 2. All we need is a table and chairs (most *normal* hotels have > > them) > ^^ > Yes, maybe we are for the "work" somewhere else; at the university of > Basel, in my private house, in a dedicated meeting room; as I told > somewhere .... :-) > > > 3. We need to be reimbursed what *is* expensive : transportation, > > and not the hotel > ^^ > could never be handled and is fair to everybody. If you need to be > there or it is important for you to attend and you can't pay for > whatever; (this is for all Ambassadors the same!) ASK Max or the > project to help! Why not actually, but asking for money in a private way is something that makes me very ill at ease, and this is not really the best way I would like the FedoraProject be towards Ambassadors (i.e. a cash machine to pay for people travels). And as Max is already paying for the hotel, I personaly think that HIS help is not something we should abuse of. > > 4. Some hotels (low cost and high cost ones) could / should have > > been suggested instead of imposing one to the group, and imposing > > them to pay for something they can hardly decide of the price. > ^^ > It is up-to-everybody to organise an event (like this) and bring it to > everyones attention to make it better ... Great then, we should maybe organise a vote on the list or with the Fedora account system so as to vote for a next organising country (of course, the last country in the list wouldn't be allowed to run for the organisation the year after - or more) > > Finally, I would like to remind everybody that the FedoraProject is > > composed of many profiles and I would retain two of them : employees > > and students. Thanks to them, you can already understand that they > > don't have the same revenue and the same way of life. > > Thus, I have to announce you that I don't have 250? to spend for > > Fedora. > ^^ > It is better not to have a look back what I personally spend out of my > pocket to "help" Fedora with my small support I can give but I'm sure > if I count all and every pence and I ask Max to pay he'll kick me > out. And I'm also sure that there are many more who spend more of > their live, money and power to support Fedora with more than your 250 > EUR ... But if you need it to attend let me know, I'm also able to > help and ask the community to collect the money for you ... Well, I understand that 250? could represent a little for you, but this is once again very subjective as it depends on what you earn every month! I'm a student, I don't work! I can afford the trip, but just understand that Fedora is not my priority in my monthly budget! And about asking the community to pay for my trip, please understand that I'm not waiting for money from the comunity, but for contribution that would be much more helpful for the FP. > > Once again, I am very disappointed, because one again, I will miss > > the fad. > Fortunately you can attend. It is a pleasure for all of us to have the > President of the french people at the table And understand that it will be a pleasure for me to be one of yours. > Finaly: I am pissed of from this mail and it hurts me personally much > and I feel very unsatisfied when I read such words. I only want to > bring the community, the project and last but not least Fedora > forward. And one person begins to ask basicly question because he > don't understand what we have practiced some times before and begun to > live ... I understand your reaction and I don't criticize your involvement in any way. I would just have asked more the other Ambassadors about "the FAD of their dreams". But once again, it is not a reproach you have to take for yourself, it is just a way of organizing things that you brought to us silently because nobody was ready or chatty enough to say what he thougt about this. We CAN organise things in another way and I would be very glad to help you organise them. As there were very tiny debates about how to run a FAD, then I'm glad we can have this discussion with you. > I have now tried to organize several FADs in Rheinfelden, in Berlin > (is approx. 800 km away); Linuxtag the last two years and much more > and you ask why? Because nobody other will do so or is able to do; Do you want to bet ? ;) > I don't know but from my point of view it is much important to do > so; and all attendees tell me that this is important what I try to > do; so either you like nor you dislike. If you like attend if you > dislike stay at home. see above ! > > Just my five cents > > Gerold And my five cents as well :) Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kanarip at kanarip.com Sat Nov 10 13:48:59 2007 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:48:59 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAD EMEA (2007-11-23 - 2007-11-25) In-Reply-To: <20071110141115.7782075a@agnetha.mrtomlinux> References: <1189853069.3253.8.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <46F42AD5.50902@fedoraproject.org> <1190742105.3493.1.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <20071021191446.23c3d937@fedoraproject.org> <20071021191743.59192ae9@fedoraproject.org> <471E2D11.40705@yahoo.fr> <1193167060.3525.1.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <1193174492.3525.7.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <471E666B.3030807@yahoo.fr> <4730A77F.8070905@yahoo.fr> <20071109192920.0c097416@agnetha.mrtomlinux> <1194686778.4536.34.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <20071110141115.7782075a@agnetha.mrtomlinux> Message-ID: <4735B6CB.4080700@kanarip.com> Thomas Canniot wrote: >> Just my five cents >> >> Gerold > > And my five cents as well :) > > Thomas > I believe I am one of those examples that coughs up some money to spend at travel costs each event I attend, and then coughs up some more to spend at staying in a hotel at the event itself. Latest LinuxTag in Berlin though I must admit I had arranged for my employer to pay for the travel costs, and the hotel costs were taken care of by Max (thanks!). Frankly, I must say I don't give a shit about where my money goes, it's being spent whether I attend expensive events or travel for a holiday (which I haven't done since a couple of years now). What I /do/ care about is that I know this money could have been spent elsewhere, or better if you will. For that to happen though it is important we all meet and exchange ideas and shake hands and get something going. Only then can we discuss what is a better thing for attendees to reimburse and how to generate some revenue in order for us to be able to actually reimburse anything. Just my ~1416,90 euros (for 2007 alone), Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip -- P.S. It's not that I'm making a lot of money or anything, I am Joe Average as far as paychecks is concerned. From gerold at lugd.org Sat Nov 10 22:45:18 2007 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 23:45:18 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAD EMEA (2007-11-23 - 2007-11-25) In-Reply-To: <20071110141115.7782075a@agnetha.mrtomlinux> References: <1189853069.3253.8.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <46F42AD5.50902@fedoraproject.org> <1190742105.3493.1.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <20071021191446.23c3d937@fedoraproject.org> <20071021191743.59192ae9@fedoraproject.org> <471E2D11.40705@yahoo.fr> <1193167060.3525.1.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <1193174492.3525.7.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <471E666B.3030807@yahoo.fr> <4730A77F.8070905@yahoo.fr> <20071109192920.0c097416@agnetha.mrtomlinux> <1194686778.4536.34.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <20071110141115.7782075a@agnetha.mrtomlinux> Message-ID: <1194734718.4536.86.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> omg this is more and more a "flame" and this is my *personaly* last mail in this issue .... ... the rest will hopefully discussed at a round table somewhere in a hotel or elsewhere ... Am Samstag, den 10.11.2007, 14:11 +0100 schrieb Thomas Canniot: > Le Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:26:18 +0100, > Gerold Kassube a ?crit : > > > Dear Mr. Tom and all others, > > > > > Thanks Pierre-Yves for giving me the offlist answer to the question > > > you made here. > > > > > > I would first recommend everyone to use the mailing list for > > > discussing this subject and avoid personal mails, so as everyone > > > could get the right info at the right moment. > > ^^ > > Great Mr. Tom, > > Hey Gerold :) How are you doing ? ^^ real answer? Bad, if I have to read your FIRST words regarding my private mail to pingou ... > > > > here you point out to answer to everyone and miscredit myself because > > I answers pingou in private and tell *only him* that FP (named: Max > > Spevack) is able to help and pays the rooms and breakfast ... > > YOU personally answered Joergs demand to have you at the FAD (sended > > to the ML as you requested) also in private; > > Well, it's because I consider that some subjects are personal ones and > that others are private ones. Considering the time and date of my > arrival to Strasburg, I guess most ambassadors don't really mind about > it at all. However, knowing how much the FAD would cost them may > interest *all* the European ambassadors and not pingou alone. Then > responding to him personnaly, is a kind of a problem as it won't > encourage people to go this FAD, as they don't have all the information > at their disposal to organise their trip. > > > > a few later than you > > wrote this "Hey, we in France don't need a FAD; so why you stupid > > other European need" ... > > I never said such a thing and never insulted any other European > Ambassadors. Maybe I'm not chatty enough to say how much I respect the > work of all the Ambassadors, but you can't make me tell things I never > wrote / said / thought. ^^ You're right saying that I "... can't make you tell things you never wrote / said / thought ..."; ... ... But this is really exactly what I readed between the lines in your mail. > > > > It that the way you like to form national or regional Teams? > > > > > > > > Then according to what Pierre Yves told me, the FedoraProject > > > offered ambassadors for the FAD the nights at the hotel, but can't > > > invest in transportation. That's really disappointing, and we could > > > really wonder how the FP consider the FAD : For this kind of > > > European meeting, it is quite ununderstandable that the hotel is > > > offered. I would have offered the transport (train, car, anyway you > > > want as long as you can justify it and say before the FAD : "i'm > > > going there and I expect to spend XXX? there because of the > > > train"). In fact, in Europe and anywhere, what is very expensive > > > for people is transportation and not sleeping in a hotel. > > ^^ > > What is fair to everyone? The one like to arrange flying, the other > > preferes traveling by train or by car ... The other one likes to > > travel with others so the way is very, very different how to "arrive" > > at the FAD .... > > ... and this also depends to the costs! > > I understand this is very subjective, and I agree with you that others > could have prefered the other reimbursement. > > > > BUT it is always and for everybody the same price for a room to stay > > over night. > > And from my point of view it is more important to have a full day of > > work face-to-face instead of 200 IRC meetings or TelCo-Calls. > > Of course it is more efficient and I know it don't worry. ^^ Thank you > > > > To your complain "Why at this f*** guy near to Basel in sh*** Germany > > [remark: thats what personally I understand what you're saying > > everytime]; > > Well then you understand it in a very subjective way. I'm not that > vulgar in real life :) ^^ I think so; as I saw you the first time at the FOSDEM in person; I believe in you, that you'll never say such words somewhere in public :-) > > > > It it not my primary duty to organise FADs or fairs near > > to my "home" it is because I know a little bit around here ... > > ... and unfortunately it is also "central" in Europe. We have here > > France, Switzerland, Germany as Countrys reachable in 20 minutes! We > > have an airport (Basel, Moulhouse, Freiburg), we have a big railway > > station BAsel and last but not least we have a high concentration of > > (yes I have to say it) German Ambassadors around 200 - 300 kms like > > Robert, Jens, Joerg, Florian, Jan, Stefan, Andreas; don't forget ALL > > Swiss Ambassadors Fabian, Sandro and the Austrian like Claus or > > Oliver ... > > OK then you win here. I personaly don't know the local geography near > Basel and it remains quite difficult to know where ambassadors are > precisely located. In France, we know where is everybody becasue it is > people we chat with everybody. And I agree as well that if I tell you > that Johan is from Douai and Armel from Nantes, it won't ring a bell to > you either. > One of our lackness in France is that most ambassadors are from the > West cost or from the North of France. ^^ doesn't matter; the highest concentration of Germany is afaik in the south ... > > > > FAD is for this people who will attend and are able to help; it is a > > "planing and organisational meeting" for the Ambassadors who are > > willing to help covering EUROPEAN fairs, Events or whatelse. > > Everybody is invited and who is near or far from us to attend and > > bring his issues to us as a TEAM! > > In this Gremium we decide in which events we want to push our power to > > bring fedora forward ... > > By gosh, Mr. Tom ... > > this is not my private meeting, it is a "come together from EMEAs > > Ambassadors"! > > I know :) Then, as it is a series of European meeting, why not have the > organisation of the FAD turning each year ? This year it is in Basel, > next year it could be in Italy, in Poland, in France, in any other > country where people are ready to organise it. That could be > outstanding and even fairer for everybody. ^^ Please and once again; have a look in the WIKI at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/ to see the intention of a FAD; as you can see the Asia have understand and will have their first FAD also ... It's up to everybody in every region to invite, organise and ask somebody *official* for help or whatever you need to organise ... > > > > > What do we really need to run a fad ? This question could be > > > rephrased by : What do we need for people to talk in front of each > > > other, at the same time and place. The answer is very simple : a > > > table and chairs ! And we found them in most hotels anywhere in > > > Europe. Because what is important is that people could move, to > > > meet and discuss. Not that the thickness of the matress they would > > > sleep on :). You can always take a low cost hotel on you own or ask > > > for some friend / family / local ambassadors to sleep at their > > > homes, for free or very little money. > > ^^ > > see above! > > > > > > > > What I want to say is that : > > > 1. We don't need such a luxurious hotel to run the FAD > > ^^ > > correct, you can come saturday in the morning (mostly we start WORKING > > at 9 or 10 a.m.) and you can leave after we're ready with work at 10 > > or 11 p.m.; no doubt about ... > > But the other attendees want to have to oppurtunity to see and feel > > other Ambassadors, their thinking and "tick-ing" and we want to have > > also fun, discussion face-to-face > > That I will be happy to do as well :) > > > > > 2. All we need is a table and chairs (most *normal* hotels have > > > them) > > ^^ > > Yes, maybe we are for the "work" somewhere else; at the university of > > Basel, in my private house, in a dedicated meeting room; as I told > > somewhere .... :-) > > > > > 3. We need to be reimbursed what *is* expensive : transportation, > > > and not the hotel > > ^^ > > could never be handled and is fair to everybody. If you need to be > > there or it is important for you to attend and you can't pay for > > whatever; (this is for all Ambassadors the same!) ASK Max or the > > project to help! > > Why not actually, but asking for money in a private way is something > that makes me very ill at ease, and this is not really the best way I > would like the FedoraProject be towards Ambassadors (i.e. a cash > machine to pay for people travels). And as Max is already paying for > the hotel, I personaly think that HIS help is not something we should > abuse of. ^^ Everything you'll do for FP is your own thing; spending money, contribute whatever you like, beeing translator, beeing packager, working in the infrastructure team or whatever (I'm really sure we have douzends of activity field where everybody finds his own way. And to be honest; participation at the FAD which I organize is not mandantory BUT ... ... the history of last years shows us (all) in a direct way that is was much important to organise things month before and NOT in the last minute of an event; we practice marketing; we need a budget for our / Fedoras (and last but not least: RED HAT) events which we like to cover ... And we as gremium decide and announce to the Project Leader (named: Max Spevack) what we need next year for money, where we need him in person and once again to be honest: WE decides at the FAS in December '06 that we need Max at FOSDEM. And he made it happen to be there and the event FOSEDM was really good representated by the EUROPEAN Team and NOT only from a local Team. Sorry for that example but it was the best to show, what we can reach with that goal. AND ... everybody who decides to follow (in this case) my invitation for FAD (once again beside my home), didn't know that I can have a goodie for him, paying with the Projects help the Rooms. Everybody who registers was in the meaning that HE has to pay for all, and anyhow he himself as a free man (or wife) decided: I am FEDORA And I have to attend the meeting there near Basel; because it is important for me, for the project, for us as Team ... (don't know all personal likeness of every person) But everybody did! I don't tell everybody: YOU have to come because when you will not attend you're ..... (decide what you want). > > > > > 4. Some hotels (low cost and high cost ones) could / should have > > > been suggested instead of imposing one to the group, and imposing > > > them to pay for something they can hardly decide of the price. > > ^^ > > It is up-to-everybody to organise an event (like this) and bring it to > > everyones attention to make it better ... > > Great then, we should maybe organise a vote on the list or with the > Fedora account system so as to vote for a next organising country > (of course, the last country in the list wouldn't be allowed to run for > the organisation the year after - or more) ^^ Please excuse; a vote for what? Please remember, in EMEA we have only ONE COUNTRY organised Group; all others are in their thinking and behavior and ahndling global or reginal (EMEA) oriented; but if you like to ... > > > > > Finally, I would like to remind everybody that the FedoraProject is > > > composed of many profiles and I would retain two of them : employees > > > and students. Thanks to them, you can already understand that they > > > don't have the same revenue and the same way of life. > > > Thus, I have to announce you that I don't have 250? to spend for > > > Fedora. > > ^^ > > It is better not to have a look back what I personally spend out of my > > pocket to "help" Fedora with my small support I can give but I'm sure > > if I count all and every pence and I ask Max to pay he'll kick me > > out. And I'm also sure that there are many more who spend more of > > their live, money and power to support Fedora with more than your 250 > > EUR ... But if you need it to attend let me know, I'm also able to > > help and ask the community to collect the money for you ... > > Well, I understand that 250? could represent a little for you, ^^ OK, if you want to discuss this really private issue: I am fortytwo years old; I am married since 14 years; I have three children aged 14, 12 and 10; I have a dog, two cars, a house and many, many, many outstanding debts at my bank. Fortunately I have a job, be healthy (more or less) and have every year a two week hoiliday (together with my parents because of cost sharing) ... To fly to Berlin (for Linuxtag); to travel to Bruxelles (for FOSDEM); to travel to Stuttgart (for meeting with other Ambassadors) or have telephone calls costs me more than sometimes my family is knowing and by gosh ... Fedora is (for me) much more than a OS Fedora is independance, is living free of patents and it is a kind of philosophy ... > but this > is once again very subjective as it depends on what you earn every > month! I'm a student, I don't work! ^^ in the time I studied; I have to pay alone for my life; don't know how you can live without "working" ... Me had to; many, many, many years ago .... > I can afford the trip, but just > understand that Fedora is not my priority in my monthly budget! > And about asking the community to pay for my trip, please understand > that I'm not waiting for money from the comunity, but for contribution > that would be much more helpful for the FP. ^^ If the Ambassador don't organise events or know each other and meet only on events I'm sure the events were sometimes a big desaster. Have a look at the biggest Event in Europe LINUXTAG in Germany; more that 10.000 visitors ... will you organise programm and the fair by IRC; all things which has to be prepared (Flyers, Banners, swag etc.)??? If you have to be part of the Team, OUR European Team will help also YOU if you need support., doesn't matter in which issue. Ask our indish friend kushal das how we supported him ... > > > > > Once again, I am very disappointed, because one again, I will miss > > > the fad. > > Fortunately you can attend. It is a pleasure for all of us to have the > > President of the french people at the table > > And understand that it will be a pleasure for me to be one of yours. ^^ Than please act as one ... > > > > Finaly: I am pissed of from this mail and it hurts me personally much > > and I feel very unsatisfied when I read such words. I only want to > > bring the community, the project and last but not least Fedora > > forward. And one person begins to ask basicly question because he > > don't understand what we have practiced some times before and begun to > > live ... > > I understand your reaction and I don't criticize your involvement in > any way. I would just have asked more the other Ambassadors about "the > FAD of their dreams". ^^ Mr. Tom; everybody who knows me more than a minute knows that I am a person who wants every time the best for every one and I am also a person who is "fighting" for others ... Please believe me; you'll never get all persons under one hat :-( > But once again, it is not a reproach you have to > take for yourself, it is just a way of organizing things that you > brought to us silently because nobody was ready or chatty enough to > say what he thougt about this. ^^ EVERY Ambassador who was listed in the Fedora System at 2007-09-15! That's the date I informed the ML of organizing again a FAD in November ... On September 16th, every person listed in the ML (with an E-Mail address) has got a private E-Mail with his invitation in English and German (Sorry my french is more than 20 years gone) ... So I can't accept here: ... brought to us silent ... I was loud enough; and that more as once! > We CAN organise things in another way > and I would be very glad to help you organise them. > As there were very tiny debates about how to run a FAD, then I'm glad we > can have this discussion with you. ^^ Don't talk; do it ... > > > > I have now tried to organize several FADs in Rheinfelden, in Berlin > > (is approx. 800 km away); Linuxtag the last two years and much more > > and you ask why? Because nobody other will do so or is able to do; > > Do you want to bet ? ;) ^^ You'll loose! I had several conversations with Ambassadors in the area of Stuttgart; but nobody has had the time to organize something; so I did it myself ... > > > > I don't know but from my point of view it is much important to do > > so; and all attendees tell me that this is important what I try to > > do; so either you like nor you dislike. If you like attend if you > > dislike stay at home. > > see above ! > > > > > Just my five cents > > > > Gerold > > And my five cents as well :) > > Thomas ^^ So with my last 5 there are already 15 cents inside. Do you need them for traveling? Gerold PS: this is really my last "message" to that issue; promised! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That's too bad because I don't see it as such. :( > ... the rest will hopefully discussed at a round table somewhere in a > hotel or elsewhere ... No problem. Cheers Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mrtom at fedoraproject.org Sun Nov 11 13:00:45 2007 From: mrtom at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:00:45 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1830 #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20071111140045.77524ddf@fedoraproject.org> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2007-11-11 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (11 nov.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'h?sitez pas ? la modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent int?ressants. Thomas Canniot From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Nov 11 20:01:05 2007 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:01:05 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAD EMEA (2007-11-23 - 2007-11-25) In-Reply-To: <20071111001121.64b67ddb@agnetha.mrtomlinux> References: <1189853069.3253.8.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <1193167060.3525.1.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <1193174492.3525.7.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <471E666B.3030807@yahoo.fr> <4730A77F.8070905@yahoo.fr> <20071109192920.0c097416@agnetha.mrtomlinux> <1194686778.4536.34.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <20071110141115.7782075a@agnetha.mrtomlinux> <1194734718.4536.86.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <20071111001121.64b67ddb@agnetha.mrtomlinux> Message-ID: I won't to join the discussion because I couldn't express anything new that was just said. I want, instead, to say few words about the great experience I had with German's ambassadors (in particular with some of them) and the reason I think they have to continue organizing FAD EMEA as well as they have done in the past and in the present. Wherever there was an event they were there (see FOSDEM in Brussels, where the most spoken language is French), not only, they were the first who start a discussion for a "European Ambassador entity", don't seeing at the aspect but working for facts. I personally have to thank them for their help, their suggestion and their trust: I think they are a point of reference for everyone. At least but not last, I had to remember the past FAD EMEA where people really work hard to write proposals to improve the project and trying really to make this better. Remember: it's not the place where we organize an event that makes this a good one but the people who join this one. 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What I /do/ care > about is that I know this money could have been spent elsewhere, or > better if you will. For that to happen though it is important we all > meet and exchange ideas and shake hands and get something going. > > Only then can we discuss what is a better thing for attendees to > reimburse and how to generate some revenue in order for us to be able to > actually reimburse anything. > > Just my ~1416,90 euros (for 2007 alone), > > Kind regards, > > Jeroen van Meeuwen > -kanarip > > -- > P.S. It's not that I'm making a lot of money or anything, I am Joe > Average as far as paychecks is concerned. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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North & South America Thursday 13:00 UTC (PST 16:00) EMEA Wednesday 19.00 UTC (Summer 21.00, Winter 20.00 in central europe) APAC ? Hello there...you are around 80 ambassadors and nothing to discuss? One volunteer from APAC and the annoying messages from me about the meeting leader will stop immediately ;-) My decision is that for EMEA the first meeting will be in the middle of December because at the end of November will be the FAD [2]. No meeting in November like I said in an older post to the mailing list. The FAD will be a good place to discuss the topics and the time of the future meetings for EMEA. An other reason is that before Christmas all are very busy and I guess it would be good to have it in front of the "final round for buying gifts". Regards, Fabian [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADEMEA2007 From alajal at gmail.com Wed Nov 14 02:44:46 2007 From: alajal at gmail.com (Mustafa Qasim) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:44:46 +0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Folks Review it. My 1st survey. In-Reply-To: <2c21bbf00711131842n55c1967akfeba5dd4def9e49@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c21bbf00711131842n55c1967akfeba5dd4def9e49@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2c21bbf00711131844j2962024cmcb5e3bdde21a48bf@mail.gmail.com> Hello! I am gonna conduct a survey at my university to gain knowledge about what the folks think about FOSS and Linux so I can further prepare my first FOSS day at my University. I've made some question n want u folks to have a look at it. It needs ur suggestions and ideas to be successful. The survey files is attached. 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Myself will do it for EMEA. > > So far the planning is... > > North & South America > Thursday 13:00 UTC (PST 16:00) > > EMEA > Wednesday 19.00 UTC (Summer 21.00, Winter 20.00 in central europe) > > APAC ? Hello there...you are around 80 ambassadors and nothing to > discuss? One volunteer from APAC and the annoying messages from me > about the meeting leader will stop immediately ;-) > I too am surprised that there is no volunteer from APAC. I was hoping to see someone more active than me to take the lead. I will watch the list carefully for couple of days more. If nobody turns up, I will volunteer myself to lead monthly meetings. > My decision is that for EMEA the first meeting will be in the middle of > December because at the end of November will be the FAD [2]. No meeting > in November like I said in an older post to the mailing list. The FAD > will be a good place to discuss the topics and the time of the future > meetings for EMEA. An other reason is that before Christmas all are > very busy and I guess it would be good to have it in front of the "final > round for buying gifts". > > Regards, > > Fabian > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings > [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADEMEA2007 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Cheers ------------------------------------------------------------------------ gpg --fingerprint 08CC8675 pub 1024D/08CC8675 2007-09-27 [expires: 2012-09-25] Key fingerprint = 9048 28D2 78C2 40A3 CD43 A2BF E0DB AD71 08CC 8675 uid Sudheer Satyanarayana sub 2048g/EBFD82E8 2007-09-27 [expires: 2012-09-25] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Sudheer. S http://www.binaryvibes.co.in From nayyares at gmail.com Fri Nov 16 14:16:55 2007 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:16:55 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAD EMEA (2007-11-23 - 2007-11-25) In-Reply-To: <200711091959.35339.simon@simline.de> References: <1189853069.3253.8.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <4730A77F.8070905@yahoo.fr> <20071109192920.0c097416@agnetha.mrtomlinux> <200711091959.35339.simon@simline.de> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30711160616m13a30cc8pc17e967a739c6eeb@mail.gmail.com> Hi Folks, Please let me know about the following things, 1. Which is the nearest airport to Rheinfelden (As i have to make my air-tickets) 2. At what time/date we are suppose to meet for the first time. 3. who will be the point of reference for the attendees, we need to have his number to inform about arrival. 4. Is there any Dress Code etc. for the day? (i still have fedora polo t-shirt :p) 5. any thing else? 6. Is there any body traveling from Paris? (i want to hang with him if possible :D) cheers On Nov 9, 2007 8:59 PM, JoergSimon wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > Am Freitag, 9. November 2007 19:29:20 schrieb Thomas Canniot: > > Thanks to them, you can already understand that they > > don't have the same revenue and the same way of life. > > If think the FAD is at the same place then last year - and because there > are > so different people - we sleep at "Schloss Beugen" a evangelic Meeting > Place > open for everybody who will not need "hotel standard" but want clean > payable > rooms and we have a good central infrastructure with Airport Basel > > > Thus, I have to announce you that I don't have 250? to spend for Fedora. > > Once again, I am very disappointed, because one again, I will miss the > > fad. > > We are a community - and after your mail - you come is more important then > ever - because i sense differences that we all need to discuss! > I will drive by car with Robert (rsc) and I will pick up Chitlesh in > Strassbourg on my way to FAD. So i have one place left for you - what are > your costs to come to strassbourg by train - is this a possibility? We > will > find a way - you must come, please! > > CU > > > -- > J?rg Simon > jsimon at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon > Key Fingerprint: > 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kanarip at kanarip.com Fri Nov 16 14:24:34 2007 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:24:34 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAD EMEA (2007-11-23 - 2007-11-25) In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30711160616m13a30cc8pc17e967a739c6eeb@mail.gmail.com> References: <1189853069.3253.8.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <4730A77F.8070905@yahoo.fr> <20071109192920.0c097416@agnetha.mrtomlinux> <200711091959.35339.simon@simline.de> <8e1ee2a30711160616m13a30cc8pc17e967a739c6eeb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <473DA822.70402@kanarip.com> Nayyar Ahmad wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Please let me know about the following things, > > 1. Which is the nearest airport to Rheinfelden (As i have to make my > air-tickets) > 2. At what time/date we are suppose to meet for the first time. > 3. who will be the point of reference for the attendees, we need to have > his number to inform about arrival. > 4. Is there any Dress Code etc. for the day? (i still have fedora polo > t-shirt :p) > 5. any thing else? > 6. Is there any body traveling from Paris? (i want to hang with him if > possible :D) > I'm traveling via Paris, I'm there from 10:45 (arriving with flight AF 1241 from Amsterdam) till 11:40 taking flight AF 3284 to Basel. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From subhodip at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 16 15:58:18 2007 From: subhodip at fedoraproject.org (subhodip biswas) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:28:18 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Machines roll out at Bijra High school Message-ID: <539333cb0711160758k334e33eeiaf0d72ee427b1c24@mail.gmail.com> Hi ! Many of you may be aware of Bijra High School Project [http://www.dgplug.org/intro/bijra] [http://bijra.dgplug.org] of dgplug [http://www.dgplug.org] . On 15th November 2007 we had a grand inauguration of the project. The initial idea was to open the world of computing to poor students . This has been done using completely free and opensource softwares. WBUT (West Bengal University of Technology ) and L2C2 Technology lend us a helping by providing few computers to the school. An LTSP server running fedora 7 along with few old PIII machines has been deployed. Not only that as most students lack proper English knowledge so the whole implementation has been done using bengali (native language ) BN_IN locale . The area also lack a proper internet connection so kiwix (offline wikipedia), wordnet (a dictionary dump) , project gutenburg dvd dump ( collection of english classics) are among the few softwares implemented to provide a complete education setup . So this help them not only in learning computers but also in computer aided learning. -- Regards Subhodip Biswas Fedora ambassador West Bengal, India GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 16 16:01:59 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:31:59 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Machines roll out at Bijra High school In-Reply-To: <539333cb0711160758k334e33eeiaf0d72ee427b1c24@mail.gmail.com> References: <539333cb0711160758k334e33eeiaf0d72ee427b1c24@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <473DBEF7.1050607@fedoraproject.org> subhodip biswas wrote: > Hi ! > > Many of you may be aware of Bijra High School Project > [http://www.dgplug.org/intro/bijra] [http://bijra.dgplug.org] of > dgplug [http://www.dgplug.org] . > > On 15th November 2007 we had a grand inauguration of the project. The > initial idea was to open the world of computing to poor students . > This has been done using completely free and opensource softwares. > > WBUT (West Bengal University of Technology ) and L2C2 Technology lend > us a helping by providing few computers to the school. > An LTSP server running fedora 7 along with few old PIII machines has > been deployed. Not only that as most students lack proper English > knowledge so the whole implementation has been done using bengali > (native language ) BN_IN locale . > The area also lack a proper internet connection so kiwix (offline > wikipedia), wordnet (a dictionary dump) , project gutenburg dvd dump ( > collection of english classics) are among the few softwares > implemented to provide a complete education setup . So this help them > not only in learning computers but also in computer aided learning. Good to know. Is this plain Fedora or K12LTSP? If it is plain Fedora who did the configuration and management of additional packages? How many Fedora systems are these? Note that LTSP integration work has started recently in Fedora. Refer http://wtogami.livejournal.com/20047.html Rahul Rahul From tchung at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 16 18:39:22 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:39:22 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Machines roll out at Bijra High school In-Reply-To: <539333cb0711160758k334e33eeiaf0d72ee427b1c24@mail.gmail.com> References: <539333cb0711160758k334e33eeiaf0d72ee427b1c24@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0711161039w741cc28ds65d52284bd7be0cc@mail.gmail.com> On 11/16/07, subhodip biswas wrote: > Hi ! > > Many of you may be aware of Bijra High School Project > [http://www.dgplug.org/intro/bijra] [http://bijra.dgplug.org] of > dgplug [http://www.dgplug.org] . > > On 15th November 2007 we had a grand inauguration of the project. The > initial idea was to open the world of computing to poor students . > This has been done using completely free and opensource softwares. > > WBUT (West Bengal University of Technology ) and L2C2 Technology lend > us a helping by providing few computers to the school. > An LTSP server running fedora 7 along with few old PIII machines has > been deployed. Not only that as most students lack proper English > knowledge so the whole implementation has been done using bengali > (native language ) BN_IN locale . > The area also lack a proper internet connection so kiwix (offline > wikipedia), wordnet (a dictionary dump) , project gutenburg dvd dump ( > collection of english classics) are among the few softwares > implemented to provide a complete education setup . So this help them > not only in learning computers but also in computer aided learning. > > > > > > -- > Regards > Subhodip Biswas > > Fedora ambassador > West Bengal, India Hi Subhodip, Thank you for your great report. We really appreciated. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From alajal at gmail.com Fri Nov 16 20:15:07 2007 From: alajal at gmail.com (Mustafa Qasim) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:15:07 +0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSS Day - Need suggestion from all you there. Message-ID: <2c21bbf00711161215m20030220j8b9ec8bb47505892@mail.gmail.com> Hello! I am going to organize a FOSS Day in my city hopefully at my university. I've initiated the discussion at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MustafaQasim/MeetingRoom/FossDay . I need support from all the ambassadors there. Kindly review it and leave there any suggestion u have to make it a successful event. Again guyz, I need ur full support. -- Regards, Mustafa Qasim Lahore, Pakistan Cell: 0321-6614972 URL: http://www.mustu.info Registered Linux User# 441709. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alajal at gmail.com Fri Nov 16 21:26:54 2007 From: alajal at gmail.com (Mustafa Qasim) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:26:54 +0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Machines roll out at Bijra High school In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0711161039w741cc28ds65d52284bd7be0cc@mail.gmail.com> References: <539333cb0711160758k334e33eeiaf0d72ee427b1c24@mail.gmail.com> <369bce3b0711161039w741cc28ds65d52284bd7be0cc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2c21bbf00711161326w71ce093fp8dd5f064faa34f4e@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 16, 2007 11:39 PM, Thomas Chung wrote: > On 11/16/07, subhodip biswas wrote: > > Hi ! > > > > Many of you may be aware of Bijra High School Project > > [http://www.dgplug.org/intro/bijra] [http://bijra.dgplug.org] of > > dgplug [http://www.dgplug.org] . > > > > On 15th November 2007 we had a grand inauguration of the project. The > > initial idea was to open the world of computing to poor students . > > This has been done using completely free and opensource softwares. > > > > WBUT (West Bengal University of Technology ) and L2C2 Technology lend > > us a helping by providing few computers to the school. > > An LTSP server running fedora 7 along with few old PIII machines has > > been deployed. Not only that as most students lack proper English > > knowledge so the whole implementation has been done using bengali > > (native language ) BN_IN locale . > > The area also lack a proper internet connection so kiwix (offline > > wikipedia), wordnet (a dictionary dump) , project gutenburg dvd dump ( > > collection of english classics) are among the few softwares > > implemented to provide a complete education setup . So this help them > > not only in learning computers but also in computer aided learning. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards > > Subhodip Biswas > > > > Fedora ambassador > > West Bengal, India > > Hi Subhodip, > Thank you for your great report. We really appreciated. > Regards, > -- > Thomas Chung > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Clapping! Great work ..... -- Regards, Mustafa Qasim Lahore, Pakistan Cell: 0321-6614972 URL: http://www.mustu.info Registered Linux User# 441709. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nayyares at gmail.com Fri Nov 16 22:18:24 2007 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:18:24 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSS Day - Need suggestion from all you there. In-Reply-To: <2c21bbf00711161215m20030220j8b9ec8bb47505892@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c21bbf00711161215m20030220j8b9ec8bb47505892@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30711161418y39eee0d5n553207088379837c@mail.gmail.com> Hi Mustafa, You have made a comprehensive event page, i would suggest you to move it to Fedora Project's Event page i.e. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ of course we can make it further refine with open discussion on list and irc meetings. keep great work going... cheers On Nov 16, 2007 10:15 PM, Mustafa Qasim wrote: > Hello! > I am going to organize a FOSS Day in my city hopefully at my > university. I've initiated the discussion at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MustafaQasim/MeetingRoom/FossDay > . I need support from all the ambassadors there. Kindly review it and > leave there any suggestion u have to make it a successful event. > > Again guyz, I need ur full support. > > -- > Regards, > Mustafa Qasim > Lahore, Pakistan > Cell: 0321-6614972 > URL: http://www.mustu.info > > Registered Linux User# 441709. > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alajal at gmail.com Fri Nov 16 22:31:37 2007 From: alajal at gmail.com (Mustafa Qasim) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:31:37 +0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSS Day - Need suggestion from all you there. In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30711161418y39eee0d5n553207088379837c@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c21bbf00711161215m20030220j8b9ec8bb47505892@mail.gmail.com> <8e1ee2a30711161418y39eee0d5n553207088379837c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2c21bbf00711161431y62214625m8324fed5c5f59cd@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 17, 2007 3:18 AM, Nayyar Ahmad wrote: > Hi Mustafa, > > You have made a comprehensive event page, i would suggest you to move it > to Fedora Project's Event page i.e. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ > > > of course we can make it further refine with open discussion on list and > irc meetings. > > keep great work going... > > cheers > > On Nov 16, 2007 10:15 PM, Mustafa Qasim < alajal at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello! > > I am going to organize a FOSS Day in my city hopefully at my > > university. I've initiated the discussion at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MustafaQasim/MeetingRoom/FossDay > > . I need support from all the ambassadors there. Kindly review it and > > leave there any suggestion u have to make it a successful event. > > > > Again guyz, I need ur full support. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Mustafa Qasim > > Lahore, Pakistan > > Cell: 0321-6614972 > > URL: http://www.mustu.info > > > > Registered Linux User# 441709. > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > -- > Nayyar Ahmad > RHCE (ID:804006858622745) > Skype: nayyares > Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > well, I was thinking abt putting it on FedoraEvents When it gets mature.... or should i do it now -- Regards, Mustafa Qasim Lahore, Pakistan Cell: 0321-6614972 URL: http://www.mustu.info Registered Linux User# 441709. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <2c21bbf00711161431y62214625m8324fed5c5f59cd@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c21bbf00711161215m20030220j8b9ec8bb47505892@mail.gmail.com> <8e1ee2a30711161418y39eee0d5n553207088379837c@mail.gmail.com> <2c21bbf00711161431y62214625m8324fed5c5f59cd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30711161435y6019b496nbca69f40fd4e32c0@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 17, 2007 12:31 AM, Mustafa Qasim wrote: > > > On Nov 17, 2007 3:18 AM, Nayyar Ahmad wrote: > > > Hi Mustafa, > > > > You have made a comprehensive event page, i would suggest you to move it > > to Fedora Project's Event page i.e. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ > > > > > > of course we can make it further refine with open discussion on list and > > irc meetings. > > > > keep great work going... > > > > cheers > > > > On Nov 16, 2007 10:15 PM, Mustafa Qasim < alajal at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hello! > > > I am going to organize a FOSS Day in my city hopefully at my > > > university. I've initiated the discussion at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MustafaQasim/MeetingRoom/FossDay > > > . I need support from all the ambassadors there. Kindly review it and > > > leave there any suggestion u have to make it a successful event. > > > > > > Again guyz, I need ur full support. > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > Mustafa Qasim > > > Lahore, Pakistan > > > Cell: 0321-6614972 > > > URL: http://www.mustu.info > > > > > > Registered Linux User# 441709. > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Nayyar Ahmad > > RHCE (ID:804006858622745) > > Skype: nayyares > > Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > well, I was thinking abt putting it on FedoraEvents When it gets > mature.... or should i do it now > you can do it now, it is wiki... , we can edit it any time , it will get mature with further discussions, byputting it there will take it in consideration during irc meetings... > > > -- > Regards, > Mustafa Qasim > Lahore, Pakistan > Cell: 0321-6614972 > URL: http://www.mustu.info > > Registered Linux User# 441709. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <2c21bbf00711161431y62214625m8324fed5c5f59cd@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c21bbf00711161215m20030220j8b9ec8bb47505892@mail.gmail.com> <8e1ee2a30711161418y39eee0d5n553207088379837c@mail.gmail.com> <2c21bbf00711161431y62214625m8324fed5c5f59cd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2c21bbf00711161452we434431w3390be6a30c2e1a6@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 17, 2007 3:31 AM, Mustafa Qasim wrote: > > > On Nov 17, 2007 3:18 AM, Nayyar Ahmad wrote: > > > Hi Mustafa, > > > > You have made a comprehensive event page, i would suggest you to move it > > to Fedora Project's Event page i.e. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ > > > > > > of course we can make it further refine with open discussion on list and > > irc meetings. > > > > keep great work going... > > > > cheers > > > > On Nov 16, 2007 10:15 PM, Mustafa Qasim < alajal at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hello! > > > I am going to organize a FOSS Day in my city hopefully at my > > > university. I've initiated the discussion at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MustafaQasim/MeetingRoom/FossDay > > > . I need support from all the ambassadors there. Kindly review it and > > > leave there any suggestion u have to make it a successful event. > > > > > > Again guyz, I need ur full support. > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > Mustafa Qasim > > > Lahore, Pakistan > > > Cell: 0321-6614972 > > > URL: http://www.mustu.info > > > > > > Registered Linux User# 441709. > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Nayyar Ahmad > > RHCE (ID:804006858622745) > > Skype: nayyares > > Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > well, I was thinking abt putting it on FedoraEvents When it gets > mature.... or should i do it now > > > -- > Regards, > Mustafa Qasim > Lahore, Pakistan > Cell: 0321-6614972 > URL: http://www.mustu.info > > Registered Linux User# 441709. > The event is also updated at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents . 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Refer > > http://wtogami.livejournal.com/20047.html It might be of passing interest that Indranil and others from this Bijra issue have been at it a while trying to get some information about LTSP and Fedora (see the -education list) - -- You see things; and you say 'Why?'; But I dream things that never were; and I say 'Why not?' - George Bernard Shaw www.linkedin.com/in/sankarshan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHP9vgXQZpNTcrCzMRAl1VAJ44YixyHePTOzUxlvfGY244aX7jpwCgvtQc fuO+P2EeMPbbIuswCk8uONc= =WCvS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mrtom at fedoraproject.org Sun Nov 18 08:20:40 2007 From: mrtom at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:20:40 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1830 #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20071118092040.5c4e48bc@mrtomlinux.org> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2007-11-18 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (18 nov.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'h?sitez pas ? la modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent int?ressants. Thomas Canniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Nov 18 09:13:29 2007 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:13:29 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Election Message-ID: Hi, it's time to hold a new election for FAmSCo. As many of you know FAmSCo members stay in charge for 2 major releases of Fedora (more info at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Election/Rules ). Now, i want to know if you need a new FAmSCo election. If yes, please, tell me your preferred dates. Few guidelines before starting the discussion (taken from FAmSCo elections guidelines): 1. Candidates may be any member of the Ambassadors group in the Fedora Accounts System. This helps ensure FAmSCo members have some experience with the processes of Fedora Ambassadors but still allows relatively new contributors to sit on FAmSCo and bring fresh ideas to the table. 2. *Candidates must self-nominate at least two days before the voting period opens* by writing their information onto the wiki (Fedora account, email and irc nick, statement of past contributions and what they hope to accomplish while a member of FAmSCo.) 3. *In order to hold an election a minimum number of candidates are necessary.* This will be the number of open seats + 25%. If there are 7 seats available, there will need to be at least 9 candidates. If not enough candidates have signed up by the deadline, the election will be held back by one week for more candidates to be nominated. If there are still not enough candidates, the candidates who are present will be voted upon (or merely confirmed if there are less candidates than open seats.) 4. If a candidate no longer wishes to be on FAmSCo, they have to withdraw their name from the list of nominations at least 24 hours before the voting period opens, to avoid having their name being added to the ballot. You may aso find interestant read all the Election rule, in particulary *to decide the electoral calendar visit http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Election/Rules#head-e37697ea32dfc4f4f732890bab6cf995619fbc62 * . Hoping to be helpfull Francesco Ugolini -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From linux at elfshadow.net Mon Nov 19 17:55:01 2007 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:55:01 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Election In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10e0a9b00711190955r46f3dfc8j2c849c58c9a0fdcb@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 18, 2007 4:13 AM, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > it's time to hold a new election for FAmSCo. As many of you know FAmSCo > members stay in charge for 2 major releases of Fedora (more info at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Election/Rules). > > Now, i want to know if you need a new FAmSCo election. If yes, please, tell > me your preferred dates. Thanks for bringing this up Francesco. Yes, I think we need to hold a new FAmSCo election as laid out in the Election Rules. As for preferred dates, I will throw some out as a starting point for discussion: Nominations: 11/21/2007 to 11/30/2007 Voting Period: 12/4/2007 to 12/11/2007 The nomination period should be long enough to be sure all Ambassadors know about the election. The voting period crosses weeks to help account for people that might be on vacation one week or the other. Thanks, Jeffrey From couf at skynet.be Mon Nov 19 18:24:23 2007 From: couf at skynet.be (Bart Couvreur) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:24:23 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Election In-Reply-To: <10e0a9b00711190955r46f3dfc8j2c849c58c9a0fdcb@mail.gmail.com> References: <10e0a9b00711190955r46f3dfc8j2c849c58c9a0fdcb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1195496663.3241.24.camel@lapcouf.bercie23.homelinux.net> Op maandag 19-11-2007 om 12:55 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Jeffrey Tadlock: > On Nov 18, 2007 4:13 AM, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > > it's time to hold a new election for FAmSCo. As many of you know FAmSCo > > members stay in charge for 2 major releases of Fedora (more info at > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Election/Rules). > > > > Now, i want to know if you need a new FAmSCo election. If yes, please, tell > > me your preferred dates. > > Thanks for bringing this up Francesco. > > Yes, I think we need to hold a new FAmSCo election as laid out in the > Election Rules. Right, we ought to keep the project to it's rules :-) > > As for preferred dates, I will throw some out as a starting point for > discussion: > > Nominations: 11/21/2007 to 11/30/2007 > Voting Period: 12/4/2007 to 12/11/2007 > > The nomination period should be long enough to be sure all Ambassadors > know about the election. The voting period crosses weeks to help > account for people that might be on vacation one week or the other. > Looks quite all right, although we might want to extend the nominations period with the weekend of 1 & 2 Dec (just in case). Weekends tend to result in more input somehow, don't ask me why. > Thanks, > Jeffrey OTOH: I'm going to question the fact if we need a steering committee anyway. Basically I was stunned when I read that famsco has a meeting twice a year. I don't get the point of it then anymore. If this be the case, then we might want to look at two or maybe three people per region who are the main contacts for that particular reason and these people get together in whatever famsco should be doing. I might be terribly wrong about this still. To be honest here, I had too look up [1] who was serving on famsco (except Thomas and Francesco), because I had no idea. Bart [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee -- Bart key fingerprint: 6AAB 544D 3432 D013 776D 3602 ADB6 6B2A D93F 0F93 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From pablo.barrera at proyectofedora.org Mon Nov 19 18:57:27 2007 From: pablo.barrera at proyectofedora.org (Pablo Barrera) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:57:27 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Election In-Reply-To: <1195496663.3241.24.camel@lapcouf.bercie23.homelinux.net> References: <10e0a9b00711190955r46f3dfc8j2c849c58c9a0fdcb@mail.gmail.com> <1195496663.3241.24.camel@lapcouf.bercie23.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <46d0f200711191057i9e90db7l827dde4772e44ae4@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, OTOH: I'm going to question the fact if we need a steering committee > anyway. Basically I was stunned when I read that famsco has a meeting > twice a year. I don't get the point of it then anymore. absolutely agree about it . What is the main actions of FAMSCO today globally. I can see the effort of Rodrigo reggionally who is making a lot of things. But what if we can "revisoring" the famsco role and recreate just like a more active equipment. Options can be - 2 persons per region as couf said. Representing Fedora worldwide. - Proposals directly focused on spreading Fedora per Region - 1 Cancellour Wordlwide. In LA we feel some outside some times. Yesterday a newcomer ambassador wants to join and the the form didnt work. The way to become an ambassador are so complex that nobody wants to join sometimes. What about "non technical" ambassadors, needs an skils levels to become ambassador. Supose that some goberment executive wants to become fedora ambassador and the only thing he knows is GNOME, nothing about PGP but has the skills to promote Fedora. Leaving out this guy?.... I think that we must vote at first if we want this system going on in this way or make a refresh. The real problem is that, when u fly "a bit under the radar" as max in his blog, whe opinions comes more weak. Its more than FAMSCO, its about how to become more activa and inclusive... My Dollar (my two cents are less that i propose) ;) Best regards -- -- Pablo Barrera http://www.proyectofedora.org http://www.pablobarrera.com.ar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pablo.barrera at proyectofedora.org Mon Nov 19 19:03:11 2007 From: pablo.barrera at proyectofedora.org (Pablo Barrera) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:03:11 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] fedora tunisia In-Reply-To: <5bddd8fd0711191038p1f12f3a2wdb925f16f167b1d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bddd8fd0711191038p1f12f3a2wdb925f16f167b1d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46d0f200711191103l3025ce74ped2c71e2f35eac2b@mail.gmail.com> Hi Nihed! Welcome to the family. About to help, even i am in latinamerica, if u need some help in english of talk about how we made here, are welcome to ask My Jabber/GTALK account: pablo.floss at gmail.com Best regards! Pablo Barrera Fedora Argentina 2007/11/19, nihed mbarek : > > Hi, > it's a great pleasure for me to present for you our website that represent > fedora Tunisian community. > We create this site with drupal CMS and we are waiting for yours help to > have the best presence in the country. > http://www.fedora-tunisia.org/ > > Thank you > > -- > CHABCHOUB Chiheb > FAKHFEKH Zied > M'BAREK Med Nihed > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- -- Pablo Barrera http://www.proyectofedora.org http://www.pablobarrera.com.ar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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About to help, even i am in latinamerica, if u need > some help in english of talk about > how we made here, are welcome to ask > > My Jabber/GTALK account: pablo.floss at gmail.com > > Best regards! > Pablo Barrera > Fedora Argentina > > > 2007/11/19, nihed mbarek : > > > > Hi, > > it's a great pleasure for me to present for you our website that > > represent fedora Tunisian community. > > We create this site with drupal CMS and we are waiting for yours help to > > have the best presence in the country. > > http://www.fedora-tunisia.org/ > > > > Thank you > > > > -- > > CHABCHOUB Chiheb > > FAKHFEKH Zied > > M'BAREK Med Nihed > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > -- > -- > Pablo Barrera > http://www.proyectofedora.org > http://www.pablobarrera.com.ar > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- M'BAREK Med Nihed, Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From linux at elfshadow.net Mon Nov 19 21:28:18 2007 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:28:18 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Election In-Reply-To: <1195496663.3241.24.camel@lapcouf.bercie23.homelinux.net> References: <10e0a9b00711190955r46f3dfc8j2c849c58c9a0fdcb@mail.gmail.com> <1195496663.3241.24.camel@lapcouf.bercie23.homelinux.net> Message-ID: <10e0a9b00711191328q63a42cc7ida78b76a7cf8d53e@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 19, 2007 1:24 PM, Bart Couvreur wrote: > OTOH: I'm going to question the fact if we need a steering committee > anyway. Basically I was stunned when I read that famsco has a meeting > twice a year. I don't get the point of it then anymore. If this be the > case, then we might want to look at two or maybe three people per region > who are the main contacts for that particular reason and these people > get together in whatever famsco should be doing. I might be terribly > wrong about this still. I agree the Ambassador group seems to have lost some steam since its initial beginnings. Though, there still are several parts of the world accomplishing very good things for Fedora. I am not sure if getting rid of the Steering Committee is the right way to correct things though. That seems like it might fragment things even further into isolated pockets of ambassadors. It might also make reimbursements tougher, as well as adding another hurdle for new ambassadors to really get started. I know the aid of FAmSCo helped me out a lot during my first event planning for the Ohio Linux Fest in 2006. I think the Steering Committee can still provide a valuable role, it just needs some energy injected into it - which this election can be the opportunity to do. As for the number of meetings. The meetings page says they are still supposed to be meeting every 2nd Monday of the month. The meeting minutes do only show one meeting for this year. While I think the Steering Committee should have a more active meeting schedule than that - I don't think the solution is to scrap that committee - rather use this election to change things. What does an ideal Steering Committee look like to me? A group of energetic leaders, helping lower the hurdles for both Ambassador membership *and* make putting on an event easier. A group of people that can take things to the Fedora Board when needed for ideas that can reshape the Ambassadors. A group of people that listen to Ambassadors from each region to help improve the Ambassador group as a whole. A group of people who are active on the mailing lists - both in supporting other people's events and ideas and bringing new ideas to the table. --Jeffrey From pablo.barrera at proyectofedora.org Mon Nov 19 21:47:17 2007 From: pablo.barrera at proyectofedora.org (Pablo Barrera) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:47:17 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Election In-Reply-To: <10e0a9b00711191328q63a42cc7ida78b76a7cf8d53e@mail.gmail.com> References: <10e0a9b00711190955r46f3dfc8j2c849c58c9a0fdcb@mail.gmail.com> <1195496663.3241.24.camel@lapcouf.bercie23.homelinux.net> <10e0a9b00711191328q63a42cc7ida78b76a7cf8d53e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46d0f200711191347v63097a73m85032ddc5cb5610c@mail.gmail.com> Hi all... > I agree the Ambassador group seems to have lost some steam since its > initial beginnings. Though, there still are several parts of the > world accomplishing very good things for Fedora. I am not sure if > getting rid of the Steering Committee is the right way to correct > things though. That seems like it might fragment things even further > into isolated pockets of ambassadors. It might also make > reimbursements tougher, as well as adding another hurdle for new > ambassadors to really get started. I know the aid of FAmSCo helped me > out a lot during my first event planning for the Ohio Linux Fest in > 2006. Yes, but Live in USA. For Fedora in USA is more easy. What about the rest of the world. We are Fedora too. I think the Steering Committee can still provide a valuable role, it > just needs some energy injected into it - which this election can be > the opportunity to do. All the processes are so complex to make all. Become ambassador is complex Everything becomes complex. including the vote process. For new ambassadors are too much complex. As for the number of meetings. The meetings page says they are still > supposed to be meeting every 2nd Monday of the month. The meeting > minutes do only show one meeting for this year. While I think the > Steering Committee should have a more active meeting schedule than > that - I don't think the solution is to scrap that committee - rather > use this election to change things. Not scrap! not at all. Modify the dynamics of the FAMSCO. I am not agree to dissolve, but we need to evolve too... What does an ideal Steering Committee look like to me? A group of > energetic leaders, helping lower the hurdles for both Ambassador > membership *and* make putting on an event easier. A group of people > that can take things to the Fedora Board when needed for ideas that > can reshape the Ambassadors. A group of people that listen to > Ambassadors from each region to help improve the Ambassador group as a > whole. A group of people who are active on the mailing lists - both > in supporting other people's events and ideas and bringing new ideas > to the table. + 1 -- -- Pablo Barrera http://www.proyectofedora.org http://www.pablobarrera.com.ar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From linux at elfshadow.net Mon Nov 19 21:56:54 2007 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:56:54 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Election In-Reply-To: <46d0f200711191347v63097a73m85032ddc5cb5610c@mail.gmail.com> References: <10e0a9b00711190955r46f3dfc8j2c849c58c9a0fdcb@mail.gmail.com> <1195496663.3241.24.camel@lapcouf.bercie23.homelinux.net> <10e0a9b00711191328q63a42cc7ida78b76a7cf8d53e@mail.gmail.com> <46d0f200711191347v63097a73m85032ddc5cb5610c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10e0a9b00711191356m7b13fc52gdef208e6996d0378@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 19, 2007 4:47 PM, Pablo Barrera wrote: > Yes, but Live in USA. For Fedora in USA is more easy. What about the rest of > the world. We are Fedora too. Well, shipping is cheaper. :) Fedora Ambassadors in the US have our hurdles as well. Obtaining swag to give away is not clear cut and simple, so even US ambassadors have hurdles. In fact, at times I am envious of some of the organization Ambassadors have in other parts of the world. There are some really good things happening outside of the US. Point taken though. The Steering Committee needs to consider hurdles that might be specific to each region and should be a hurdle in and of itself. > All the processes are so complex to make all. Become ambassador is complex > Everything becomes complex. including > the vote process. For new ambassadors are too much complex. This is a challenge the new Steering Committee could take on. What can we do to lower those hurdles? Not all hurdles can necessarily be done away with - but some could be lowered or at least clearer steps on how to pass a hurdle. I think a Steering Committee with community input could make strides to solve these issues. > Not scrap! not at all. Modify the dynamics of the FAMSCO. I am not agree to > dissolve, but we need to evolve too... Evolving is good. Maybe maintain a Steering Committe with a specified number of Regional Seats for each region? That would help make sure each region's issues are accounted for and also helps with time zone differences when newer Ambassadors have questions about a process or hosting an event. --Jeffrey From pablo.barrera at proyectofedora.org Mon Nov 19 22:34:11 2007 From: pablo.barrera at proyectofedora.org (Pablo Barrera) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:34:11 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Election In-Reply-To: <10e0a9b00711191356m7b13fc52gdef208e6996d0378@mail.gmail.com> References: <10e0a9b00711190955r46f3dfc8j2c849c58c9a0fdcb@mail.gmail.com> <1195496663.3241.24.camel@lapcouf.bercie23.homelinux.net> <10e0a9b00711191328q63a42cc7ida78b76a7cf8d53e@mail.gmail.com> <46d0f200711191347v63097a73m85032ddc5cb5610c@mail.gmail.com> <10e0a9b00711191356m7b13fc52gdef208e6996d0378@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46d0f200711191434r7055ada1rc871af5871a84b0a@mail.gmail.com> hi all Point taken though. The Steering Committee needs to consider hurdles > that might be specific to each region and should be a hurdle in and of > itself. be hurdle for pay less attention than must be payed. the FAMSCO must consider the world as "hole play place" hurdles comes for this reason, keeping on thinking of "some regions" are too much global and not focused as an especific problem from FAMSCO. Its a community indeed. As the unification of extras and the management was united with Red Hat Engs. and Community, in ambassadors business, must be the same. Chairs could be useful to identify where to "ask to ship cds" or get budget to spread fedora. But nothing else. What about estrategy to spread Fedora in regions?...forecast of growing? all via a marketing list?.... just announce? , why not to dump all the ideas in a monthly forum per region and think before two times an year how the things goes. This is a challenge the new Steering Committee could take on. let the compilers, compile, and let the people persons (less knowledge of kernel of course ) make our job....a full geek never has the skilss to understand why ubuntu is spreading more than Fedora, cause a geek of Fedora know that he has better tools, but he doesnt know how to annunce it. anyway, this is a very bug always present in red hat two...some mistakes that comes from the past.... What > can we do to lower those hurdles? Not all hurdles can necessarily be > done away with - Why not? but some could be lowered or at least clearer steps > on how to pass a hurdle. I think a Steering Committee with community > input could make strides to solve these issues. To make it possible the FAMSCO must be "real" for all ambassadors. I knew famsco by Rodrigo. For me Famsco is Rodrigo cause i know all the work that he does. But I wrote a lot of times to max and other, and in exception of thomas chung, who was very kind with me all the time, nobody answers..if u cant take your responsability, leave out the role...dont read it aggressive. i am acertive nothing more...:) > Not scrap! not at all. Modify the dynamics of the FAMSCO. I am not agree > to > > dissolve, but we need to evolve too... > > Evolving is good. Maybe maintain a Steering Committe with a specified > number of Regional Seats for each region? Chek the map.....do u think that 7 seats can cover the world?......i dont think so.... i.e Northamerica : Canada, United States, Mexico LatinAmerica : Center and Southamerica Together West Europe: From France to Polone East Europe : From Polone until the black sea Russia China Asia India Japan Africa Oceania (australia, new zeland, etc) Do you think that the problem is about the hurdles of get solve some points? Only 7 chairs for this places?..... Dont u think that each place has diffents NEEDS (not hurdles...) Needs.... You need more than seven chairs.... a less complex system to manage the communities...do you know what is happening in venezuela? all the community all translating EVERYTHING to spanish cause a lot of people doesnt know english... did u know it?...seven chairs know it?....reports? ideas? forecast of grow?.....goverment applications of fedora....relationship between fedora and red hat market activities?.....is Fedora more stronger where red hat exitis or more stronger without red hat influence..... That would help make sure > each region's issues are accounted for and also helps with time zone > differences when newer Ambassadors have questions about a process or > hosting an event. this is just a hour concern, not the hole problem. u can have a help desk 24/7 on line who each region takes as support and bring support in region all the time....its a technical issue.... The new FAMSCO must work on A global marketing management A local marketing management based on needs not in hurdles... A regional ambassadors representation....at least 3 per region of big country A new site more simple to get information and become ambassador. Fill a form and thats all,,, but report each month activities... Less mailiong list....crash out marketing and announce,,,and unifiy with ambassadors....and use the local mailing list for support on each region.... One comunication per month about activities around the world.... Centralized DVDs and CDs shipping directly from USA to the world....no more local shipping... One annual fedora ambassador meeting in some place of the world....red hat must work on this probably summit could be useful for this... Gobal strategy focused for two years on become more known distro...for non geeks.....ok? non geeks... My three dollars.... : ) I discuss with passion not angry.....just passionate about how i think could be a better Fedora community and spreading strategy.... we need strategy we have resources....dont dissolve famsco ...just "revisor it"....... best regards from Buenos Aires -- Pablo Barrera http://www.proyectofedora.org http://www.pablobarrera.com.ar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It might also make > reimbursements tougher, as well as adding another hurdle for new > ambassadors to really get started. I know the aid of FAmSCo helped me > out a lot during my first event planning for the Ohio Linux Fest in > 2006. > > > Yes, but Live in USA. For Fedora in USA is more easy. What about the > rest of the world. We are Fedora too. > Yes, and the current Famsco certainly represents a wide spread. 1/2 of famsco members are from outside of the USA. While logistically US Ambassadors might have an easier time of getting swag, the EMEA Ambassadors are far better organized and cohesive; especially the French and German Ambassadors. > > As for the number of meetings. The meetings page says they are still > supposed to be meeting every 2nd Monday of the month. The meeting > minutes do only show one meeting for this year. While I think the > Steering Committee should have a more active meeting schedule than > that - I don't think the solution is to scrap that committee - rather > use this election to change things. > > > Not scrap! not at all. Modify the dynamics of the FAMSCO. I am not > agree to dissolve, but we need to evolve too... > > > What does an ideal Steering Committee look like to me? A group of > energetic leaders, helping lower the hurdles for both Ambassador > membership *and* make putting on an event easier. A group of people > that can take things to the Fedora Board when needed for ideas that > can reshape the Ambassadors. A group of people that listen to > Ambassadors from each region to help improve the Ambassador group as a > whole. A group of people who are active on the mailing lists - both > in supporting other people's events and ideas and bringing new ideas > to the table. > I agree wholeheartedly! From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 20 14:38:32 2007 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:38:32 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Election In-Reply-To: <47422B88.50702@gnsa.us> References: <10e0a9b00711190955r46f3dfc8j2c849c58c9a0fdcb@mail.gmail.com> <1195496663.3241.24.camel@lapcouf.bercie23.homelinux.net> <10e0a9b00711191328q63a42cc7ida78b76a7cf8d53e@mail.gmail.com> <46d0f200711191347v63097a73m85032ddc5cb5610c@mail.gmail.com> <47422B88.50702@gnsa.us> Message-ID: Sorry but we aren't here discussing about a new FAmSCo electoral rules' reform. (I think instead of more complicated rules, it's bettere to review deeply the candidates. At the end, we know who is doing somthing (trought real world meetings, events, m-l, prmoting with firends etc... etc...). *Now we have to decide the elections day.* Currently the proposals received are: - *Jeffrey Tedlock* = Nominations: 11/21/2007 to 11/30/2007 Voting Period: 12/4/2007 to 12/11/2007 - *Bart Couvreur* = he proposes, if necessary, to extend the nomination period on 1th or 2nd December. Those are the proposals, if someone want to give his own, he is welcomed. Regards Francesco Ugolini 2007/11/20, David Nalley : > > Pablo Barrera wrote: > > Hi all... > > > > > > I agree the Ambassador group seems to have lost some steam since its > > initial beginnings. Though, there still are several parts of the > > world accomplishing very good things for Fedora. I am not sure if > > getting rid of the Steering Committee is the right way to correct > > things though. That seems like it might fragment things even > further > > into isolated pockets of ambassadors. It might also make > > reimbursements tougher, as well as adding another hurdle for new > > ambassadors to really get started. I know the aid of FAmSCo helped > me > > out a lot during my first event planning for the Ohio Linux Fest in > > 2006. > > > > > > Yes, but Live in USA. For Fedora in USA is more easy. What about the > > rest of the world. We are Fedora too. > > > Yes, and the current Famsco certainly represents a wide spread. 1/2 of > famsco members are from outside of the USA. While logistically US > Ambassadors might have an easier time of getting swag, the EMEA > Ambassadors are far better organized and cohesive; especially the French > and German Ambassadors. > > > > > As for the number of meetings. The meetings page says they are > still > > supposed to be meeting every 2nd Monday of the month. The meeting > > minutes do only show one meeting for this year. While I think the > > Steering Committee should have a more active meeting schedule than > > that - I don't think the solution is to scrap that committee - > rather > > use this election to change things. > > > > > > Not scrap! not at all. Modify the dynamics of the FAMSCO. I am not > > agree to dissolve, but we need to evolve too... > > > > > > What does an ideal Steering Committee look like to me? A group of > > energetic leaders, helping lower the hurdles for both Ambassador > > membership *and* make putting on an event easier. A group of people > > that can take things to the Fedora Board when needed for ideas that > > can reshape the Ambassadors. A group of people that listen to > > Ambassadors from each region to help improve the Ambassador group as > a > > whole. A group of people who are active on the mailing lists - both > > in supporting other people's events and ideas and bringing new ideas > > to the table. > > > I agree wholeheartedly! > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From linux at elfshadow.net Tue Nov 20 14:50:00 2007 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:50:00 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Election In-Reply-To: <46d0f200711191434r7055ada1rc871af5871a84b0a@mail.gmail.com> References: <10e0a9b00711190955r46f3dfc8j2c849c58c9a0fdcb@mail.gmail.com> <1195496663.3241.24.camel@lapcouf.bercie23.homelinux.net> <10e0a9b00711191328q63a42cc7ida78b76a7cf8d53e@mail.gmail.com> <46d0f200711191347v63097a73m85032ddc5cb5610c@mail.gmail.com> <10e0a9b00711191356m7b13fc52gdef208e6996d0378@mail.gmail.com> <46d0f200711191434r7055ada1rc871af5871a84b0a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10e0a9b00711200650q5e1240e2ha55bd358613b4c61@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 19, 2007 5:34 PM, Pablo Barrera wrote: > > Point taken though. The Steering Committee needs to consider hurdles > > that might be specific to each region and should be a hurdle in and of > > itself. I typo'ed this sentence. That should have been "...and should *not* be a hurdle in and of itself". > Chairs could > be useful to identify > where to "ask to ship cds" or get budget to spread fedora. But nothing else. > What about estrategy to > spread Fedora in regions?...forecast of growing? all via a marketing > list?.... just announce? , why not to dump > all the ideas in a monthly forum per region and think before two times an > year how the things goes. I think the Steering Committee can provide a larger role than just a point of contact for asking for CDs or submitting budget requests to the Board. The items you list - assisting with strategy, forecasting, etc are all things they could help provide assistance with. Perhaps that is just accumulating information from various areas and piecing it together. > > What > > can we do to lower those hurdles? Not all hurdles can necessarily be > > done away with - > > Why not? First, I am all for removing hurdles that can be removed. In some cases though, steps may need to be completed that can't be removed for either existing reasons for future reasons.. In these cases, making the hurdle an easier one to cross should be our goal. Some examples: The CLA is required for Ambassador group membership. I think most will agree that process can be cumbersome, you even mentioned it in one of your earlier emails - for non-technical people that might be able to bring a wonderful skill set to the table that process can pose as a barrier. If the CLA cannot be removed, then we should make sure those steps are laid out as simple as possible. And if someone has trouble with that portion, make help easy to find. Another example, reimbursement requests. These often require some paperwork in order to be reimbursed for promotional materials. That paperwork probably isn't going away. But we can make finding that paperwork and the instructions to complete that paperwork as painless as possible. > To make it possible the FAMSCO must be "real" for all ambassadors. I knew > famsco by Rodrigo. For me Famsco is Rodrigo > cause i know all the work that he does. But I wrote a lot of times to max > and other, and in exception of thomas chung, who > was very kind with me all the time, nobody answers..if u cant take your > responsability, leave out the role...dont read it aggressive. > i am acertive nothing more...:) I agree with you here as well. FAMSCO needs to be active in the project in order for it help meet the needs of Ambassadors. Non-responses from FAMSCO members makes it difficult for new members and existing ambassadors to get things done. That's why I think this election period is more of an opportunity to change that. > > Evolving is good. Maybe maintain a Steering Committe with a specified > > number of Regional Seats for each region? > > Chek the map.....do u think that 7 seats can cover the world?......i dont > think so.... Okay, so that doesn't scale well. :) > Do you think that the problem is about the hurdles of get solve some points? > Only 7 chairs for this places?..... > Dont u think that each place has diffents NEEDS (not hurdles...) Needs.... I certainly agree that each place has different needs. Even with same countries I am sure there are different needs. So, perhaps we need a Steering Committee that listens to these needs and acknowledges what works well for one place, may not work well for another. Certainly a person in one country can listen to the needs of another country and adapt as necessary. > You need more than seven chairs.... a less complex system to manage the > communities I don't see the Steering Committee as managers. I see their role as one of facilitators. Much for the reasons you have cited. Ambassadors in each country know their needs better than the Steering Committee. > > That would help make sure > > each region's issues are accounted for and also helps with time zone > > differences when newer Ambassadors have questions about a process or > > hosting an event. > > this is just a hour concern, not the hole problem. u can have a help desk > 24/7 on line who each region takes as support and bring support in region > all the time....its a technical issue.... Agreed. Mine were just some examples thrown out into the discussion. The scope is much larger than simply 24/7 availability. > The new FAMSCO must work on > > A global marketing management > A local marketing management based on needs not in hurdles... > A regional ambassadors representation....at least 3 per region of big > country > A new site more simple to get information and become ambassador. Fill a form > and thats all,,, but report each month activities... > Less mailiong list....crash out marketing and announce,,,and unifiy with > ambassadors....and use the local mailing list for support > on each region.... > One comunication per month about activities around the world.... > Centralized DVDs and CDs shipping directly from USA to the world....no more > local shipping... > One annual fedora ambassador meeting in some place of the world....red hat > must work on this probably summit could be useful for this... > Gobal strategy focused for two years on become more known distro...for non > geeks.....ok? non geeks... Excellent list! These are all things I think the Steering Committee should be considering and helping with moving toward. Let's use this election to move things that direction. > I discuss with passion not angry.....just passionate about how i think could > be a better Fedora community and spreading strategy.... > > we need strategy we have resources....dont dissolve famsco ...just "revisor > it"....... I think it is a great discussion. The bouncing of ideas back and forth and putting them out on the table is very useful. Now we need to do something about it. I think you and I are both on same page as to what we would like to see. Email just makes it difficult to see that occasionally. --Jeffrey From linux at elfshadow.net Tue Nov 20 14:52:53 2007 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:52:53 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Election In-Reply-To: References: <10e0a9b00711190955r46f3dfc8j2c849c58c9a0fdcb@mail.gmail.com> <1195496663.3241.24.camel@lapcouf.bercie23.homelinux.net> <10e0a9b00711191328q63a42cc7ida78b76a7cf8d53e@mail.gmail.com> <46d0f200711191347v63097a73m85032ddc5cb5610c@mail.gmail.com> <47422B88.50702@gnsa.us> Message-ID: <10e0a9b00711200652j2f58560bxfc3718a1e8c082ea@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 20, 2007 9:38 AM, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > Currently the proposals received are: > > - Jeffrey Tedlock = > > Nominations: 11/21/2007 to 11/30/2007 Voting Period: > 12/4/2007 to 12/11/2007 > > - Bart Couvreur = he proposes, if necessary, to extend the nomination period > on 1th or 2nd December. I think extending the nomination period to the 1st or 2nd of December is fine. The dates I put out there were more of place to start and adjust as needed. --Jeffrey From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 20 14:55:28 2007 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:55:28 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Election In-Reply-To: <10e0a9b00711200650q5e1240e2ha55bd358613b4c61@mail.gmail.com> References: <10e0a9b00711190955r46f3dfc8j2c849c58c9a0fdcb@mail.gmail.com> <1195496663.3241.24.camel@lapcouf.bercie23.homelinux.net> <10e0a9b00711191328q63a42cc7ida78b76a7cf8d53e@mail.gmail.com> <46d0f200711191347v63097a73m85032ddc5cb5610c@mail.gmail.com> <10e0a9b00711191356m7b13fc52gdef208e6996d0378@mail.gmail.com> <46d0f200711191434r7055ada1rc871af5871a84b0a@mail.gmail.com> <10e0a9b00711200650q5e1240e2ha55bd358613b4c61@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2007/11/20, Jeffrey Tadlock : > > . I think it is a great discussion. The bouncing of ideas back and > forth and putting them out on the table is very useful. Now we need > to do something about it. I think you and I are both on same page as > to what we would like to see. Email just makes it difficult to see > that occasionally. > > --Jeffrey *+1 (I completely agree)* *Regards * *Francesco Ugolini* *p.s. it's possible to know your opinion about the suggested dates? * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pablo.barrera at proyectofedora.org Tue Nov 20 16:34:32 2007 From: pablo.barrera at proyectofedora.org (Pablo Barrera) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:34:32 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Election In-Reply-To: <10e0a9b00711200650q5e1240e2ha55bd358613b4c61@mail.gmail.com> References: <10e0a9b00711190955r46f3dfc8j2c849c58c9a0fdcb@mail.gmail.com> <1195496663.3241.24.camel@lapcouf.bercie23.homelinux.net> <10e0a9b00711191328q63a42cc7ida78b76a7cf8d53e@mail.gmail.com> <46d0f200711191347v63097a73m85032ddc5cb5610c@mail.gmail.com> <10e0a9b00711191356m7b13fc52gdef208e6996d0378@mail.gmail.com> <46d0f200711191434r7055ada1rc871af5871a84b0a@mail.gmail.com> <10e0a9b00711200650q5e1240e2ha55bd358613b4c61@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1195576472.2547.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi all Thanks for feedback. Have differents ideas, is not a downgrade. Now we have more than idea for the same objetive. > I typo'ed this sentence. That should have been "...and should *not* > be a hurdle in and of itself". > ok > I think the Steering Committee can provide a larger role than just a > point of contact for asking for CDs or submitting budget requests to > the Board. The items you list - assisting with strategy, forecasting, > etc are all things they could help provide assistance with. Perhaps > that is just accumulating information from various areas and piecing > it together. > Yes it is. If you have a FAMSCO representan in your local area, is more easy to get stuff. > The CLA is required for Ambassador group membership. I think most > will agree that process can be cumbersome, you even mentioned it in > one of your earlier emails - for non-technical people that might be > able to bring a wonderful skill set to the table that process can pose > as a barrier. If the CLA cannot be removed, then we should make sure > those steps are laid out as simple as possible. And if someone has > trouble with that portion, make help easy to find. > Exactly. i.e when u become ambassador must move to a lot of wiki pages to understand everything....this is so burocratic. One sheet process could be useful. > I agree with you here as well. FAMSCO needs to be active in the > project in order for it help meet the needs of Ambassadors. > Non-responses from FAMSCO members makes it difficult for new members > and existing ambassadors to get things done. That's why I think this > election period is more of an opportunity to change that. yes of course. No more Fedora Legs of Arms "a bit under the radar" .... > I don't see the Steering Committee as managers. I see their role as > one of facilitators. Much for the reasons you have cited. > Ambassadors in each country know their needs better than the Steering > Committee. > resources administration are management. They are not our bosses, but they manage resources ;) > > Agreed. Mine were just some examples thrown out into the discussion. > The scope is much larger than simply 24/7 availability. > yes probably, has relationship with availability of suporters... > Excellent list! These are all things I think the Steering Committee > should be considering and helping with moving toward. Let's use this > election to move things that direction. > Yes, thats why i will promote myself from my wiki page as new FAMSCO member. And if ive voted by other ambassadors i will work with this list. Next FAMSCO period must make a disruption process to move to another direction.Including more help to promote Africa rising of Fedora and more Latinamerican participation and the modification of chairs to 7 to 20 and much more... > I think it is a great discussion. The bouncing of ideas back and > forth and putting them out on the table is very useful. Now we need > to do something about it. I think you and I are both on same page as > to what we would like to see. Email just makes it difficult to see > that occasionally. > yes is true. Time to work so... Best regards Pablo Barrera From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 20 17:32:01 2007 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:32:01 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Election In-Reply-To: <1195576472.2547.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <10e0a9b00711190955r46f3dfc8j2c849c58c9a0fdcb@mail.gmail.com> <1195496663.3241.24.camel@lapcouf.bercie23.homelinux.net> <10e0a9b00711191328q63a42cc7ida78b76a7cf8d53e@mail.gmail.com> <46d0f200711191347v63097a73m85032ddc5cb5610c@mail.gmail.com> <10e0a9b00711191356m7b13fc52gdef208e6996d0378@mail.gmail.com> <46d0f200711191434r7055ada1rc871af5871a84b0a@mail.gmail.com> <10e0a9b00711200650q5e1240e2ha55bd358613b4c61@mail.gmail.com> <1195576472.2547.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Please, before propose candidates we must define the time of election, i know you are really interest in changing FAmSCo but now we are talking about something different. I want also (sorry if i'm offtopic) give my opinion of FAmSCo. I think it's undemocratic to divide FAmSCo as you proposed, because it goes against the idea behind FAmSCo: we have to be liasons between all ambassadors. Yes, you may criticize how famsco have worked in the past, you may say "What do you have for me?", probably you find more useful ask Rodrigo for materials (etc...) instead of me or, at the same time, Italian Ambassadors find more useful ask me for material than him: it's just a point of view, but we have to be closed mind we have to go forward thinking Fedora Ambassador Project like a global project and people must be represented in such way. FAmSCo is here to satisfy each person who need help in the project. A different solution for the problem was proposed by European Ambassadors, in fact, they have the genius idea to create a Regional Leader (like European Leader, America Latina Leader, Asia Leader, etc...), a person who can manage the interests of his region, helping people with events, giving them swags etc... . Famsco will plan a global strategy, helping coordinating local activities, talking with Local leaders etc... At the end, give me the freedom to say this thing: FAmSCo has not a structural problem (this one is the most democratic structure you could have), the only problem could be the people, but people are elected by all of us, Ambassadors, who live everywhere in the world, people, who daily help the project with our words and our works: We (Ambassadors) are the people who have the important role to review the candidates and vote for them, if we trust completely in them. I think this is the most important thing to remember. Best regards Francesco Ugolini 2007/11/20, Pablo Barrera : > > Hi all > Thanks for feedback. Have differents ideas, is not a downgrade. Now we > have more than idea for the same objetive. > > > > I typo'ed this sentence. That should have been "...and should *not* > > be a hurdle in and of itself". > > > ok > > > > I think the Steering Committee can provide a larger role than just a > > point of contact for asking for CDs or submitting budget requests to > > the Board. The items you list - assisting with strategy, forecasting, > > etc are all things they could help provide assistance with. Perhaps > > that is just accumulating information from various areas and piecing > > it together. > > > > Yes it is. If you have a FAMSCO representan in your local area, is more > easy to get stuff. > > > > The CLA is required for Ambassador group membership. I think most > > will agree that process can be cumbersome, you even mentioned it in > > one of your earlier emails - for non-technical people that might be > > able to bring a wonderful skill set to the table that process can pose > > as a barrier. If the CLA cannot be removed, then we should make sure > > those steps are laid out as simple as possible. And if someone has > > trouble with that portion, make help easy to find. > > > Exactly. i.e when u become ambassador must move to a lot of wiki pages > to understand everything....this is so burocratic. One sheet process > could be useful. > > > > I agree with you here as well. FAMSCO needs to be active in the > > project in order for it help meet the needs of Ambassadors. > > Non-responses from FAMSCO members makes it difficult for new members > > and existing ambassadors to get things done. That's why I think this > > election period is more of an opportunity to change that. > > yes of course. No more Fedora Legs of Arms "a bit under the radar" .... > > > I don't see the Steering Committee as managers. I see their role as > > one of facilitators. Much for the reasons you have cited. > > Ambassadors in each country know their needs better than the Steering > > Committee. > > > resources administration are management. They are not our bosses, but > they manage resources ;) > > > > > > > Agreed. Mine were just some examples thrown out into the discussion. > > The scope is much larger than simply 24/7 availability. > > > > yes probably, has relationship with availability of suporters... > > > > > Excellent list! These are all things I think the Steering Committee > > should be considering and helping with moving toward. Let's use this > > election to move things that direction. > > > > Yes, thats why i will promote myself from my wiki page as new FAMSCO > member. And if ive voted by other ambassadors i will work with this > list. Next FAMSCO period must make a disruption process to move to > another direction.Including more help to promote Africa rising of Fedora > and more Latinamerican participation and the modification of chairs to 7 > to 20 and much more... > > > > I think it is a great discussion. The bouncing of ideas back and > > forth and putting them out on the table is very useful. Now we need > > to do something about it. I think you and I are both on same page as > > to what we would like to see. Email just makes it difficult to see > > that occasionally. > > > > yes is true. Time to work so... > > > Best regards > Pablo Barrera > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 20 17:33:28 2007 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:33:28 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Election In-Reply-To: References: <10e0a9b00711190955r46f3dfc8j2c849c58c9a0fdcb@mail.gmail.com> <1195496663.3241.24.camel@lapcouf.bercie23.homelinux.net> <10e0a9b00711191328q63a42cc7ida78b76a7cf8d53e@mail.gmail.com> <46d0f200711191347v63097a73m85032ddc5cb5610c@mail.gmail.com> <10e0a9b00711191356m7b13fc52gdef208e6996d0378@mail.gmail.com> <46d0f200711191434r7055ada1rc871af5871a84b0a@mail.gmail.com> <10e0a9b00711200650q5e1240e2ha55bd358613b4c61@mail.gmail.com> <1195576472.2547.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: ops. we haven't to be closed mind (sorry for the mistake) 2007/11/20, Francesco Ugolini : > > Please, before propose candidates we must define the time of election, i > know you are really interest in changing FAmSCo but now we are talking about > something different. > > I want also (sorry if i'm offtopic) give my opinion of FAmSCo. I think > it's undemocratic to divide FAmSCo as you proposed, because it goes against > the idea behind FAmSCo: we have to be liasons between all ambassadors. > > Yes, you may criticize how famsco have worked in the past, you may say > "What do you have for me?", probably you find more useful ask Rodrigo for > materials (etc...) instead of me or, at the same time, Italian Ambassadors > find more useful ask me for material than him: it's just a point of view, > but we have to be closed mind we have to go forward thinking Fedora > Ambassador Project like a global project and people must be represented in > such way. > > FAmSCo is here to satisfy each person who need help in the project. A > different solution for the problem was proposed by European Ambassadors, in > fact, they have the genius idea to create a Regional Leader (like European > Leader, America Latina Leader, Asia Leader, etc...), a person who can manage > the interests of his region, helping people with events, giving them swags > etc... . Famsco will plan a global strategy, helping coordinating local > activities, talking with Local leaders etc... > > At the end, give me the freedom to say this thing: > > FAmSCo has not a structural problem (this one is the most democratic > structure you could have), the only problem could be the people, but people > are elected by all of us, Ambassadors, who live everywhere in the world, > people, who daily help the project with our words and our works: We > (Ambassadors) are the people who have the important role to review the > candidates and vote for them, if we trust completely in them. I think this > is the most important thing to remember. > > Best regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > > 2007/11/20, Pablo Barrera : > > > > Hi all > > Thanks for feedback. Have differents ideas, is not a downgrade. Now we > > have more than idea for the same objetive. > > > > > > > I typo'ed this sentence. That should have been "...and should *not* > > > be a hurdle in and of itself". > > > > > ok > > > > > > > I think the Steering Committee can provide a larger role than just a > > > point of contact for asking for CDs or submitting budget requests to > > > the Board. The items you list - assisting with strategy, forecasting, > > > etc are all things they could help provide assistance with. Perhaps > > > that is just accumulating information from various areas and piecing > > > it together. > > > > > > > Yes it is. If you have a FAMSCO representan in your local area, is more > > easy to get stuff. > > > > > > > The CLA is required for Ambassador group membership. I think most > > > will agree that process can be cumbersome, you even mentioned it in > > > one of your earlier emails - for non-technical people that might be > > > able to bring a wonderful skill set to the table that process can pose > > > > > as a barrier. If the CLA cannot be removed, then we should make sure > > > those steps are laid out as simple as possible. And if someone has > > > trouble with that portion, make help easy to find. > > > > > Exactly. i.e when u become ambassador must move to a lot of wiki pages > > to understand everything....this is so burocratic. One sheet process > > could be useful. > > > > > > > I agree with you here as well. FAMSCO needs to be active in the > > > project in order for it help meet the needs of Ambassadors. > > > Non-responses from FAMSCO members makes it difficult for new members > > > and existing ambassadors to get things done. That's why I think this > > > election period is more of an opportunity to change that. > > > > yes of course. No more Fedora Legs of Arms "a bit under the radar" .... > > > > > I don't see the Steering Committee as managers. I see their role as > > > one of facilitators. Much for the reasons you have cited. > > > Ambassadors in each country know their needs better than the Steering > > > Committee. > > > > > resources administration are management. They are not our bosses, but > > they manage resources ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed. Mine were just some examples thrown out into the discussion. > > > The scope is much larger than simply 24/7 availability. > > > > > > > yes probably, has relationship with availability of suporters... > > > > > > > > > Excellent list! These are all things I think the Steering Committee > > > should be considering and helping with moving toward. Let's use this > > > election to move things that direction. > > > > > > > Yes, thats why i will promote myself from my wiki page as new FAMSCO > > member. And if ive voted by other ambassadors i will work with this > > list. Next FAMSCO period must make a disruption process to move to > > another direction.Including more help to promote Africa rising of Fedora > > and more Latinamerican participation and the modification of chairs to 7 > > to 20 and much more... > > > > > > > I think it is a great discussion. The bouncing of ideas back and > > > forth and putting them out on the table is very useful. Now we need > > > to do something about it. I think you and I are both on same page as > > > to what we would like to see. Email just makes it difficult to see > > > that occasionally. > > > > > > > yes is true. Time to work so... > > > > > > Best regards > > Pablo Barrera > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Nov 21 20:20:45 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:20:45 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSco Election 2007 Nominations Message-ID: <369bce3b0711211220n46822fd9wad141d0f8c4607d7@mail.gmail.com> A page for FAMSco Election 2007 Nominations is now available. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Election/2007Nominations Please nominate yourself in the page if you're interested running for FAMSco next year. Nominations: 11/21/2007 to 12/2/2007 Voting Period: 12/4/2007 to 12/11/2007 Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From linux at elfshadow.net Thu Nov 22 01:48:05 2007 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:48:05 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador Vendor Page Message-ID: <10e0a9b00711211748nf09d51cr7407a0343b5994b4@mail.gmail.com> As part of the Store SIG [1] we have created a page to list vendors that Fedora Ambassadors across the world have worked with in the past to obtain materials (T-shirts, stickers, hats, etc) in bulk for events. The hope is that this will help make it easier for Ambassadors to find a source for materials for their event from a vendor that already has some familiarity of a typical Fedora order. An Ambassador should be able to contact one of the vendors on the page and carry out the ordering process with ease. The initial Ambassador Vendor page is here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/AmbassadorVendors Please add to the vendors listed on that page in similar format to what he have now. Adding multiple vendors per region is certainly okay and encouraged. Thanks! Jeffrey [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Thu Nov 22 16:40:52 2007 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:40:52 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSco Election 2007 Nominations In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0711211220n46822fd9wad141d0f8c4607d7@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0711211220n46822fd9wad141d0f8c4607d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4745B114.4090801@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I nominated myself! ;-) Thanks Thomas! Rodrigo Padula Brazilian Fedora Project www.projetofedora.org Thomas Chung escreveu: > A page for FAMSco Election 2007 Nominations is now available. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Election/2007Nominations > > Please nominate yourself in the page if you're interested running for > FAMSco next year. > > Nominations: 11/21/2007 to 12/2/2007 > Voting Period: 12/4/2007 to 12/11/2007 > > Regards, -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHRbEUPg3HAC1vlg4RAn3kAKCN5zWiRTt28j350bZxM6JjTXiXNACfVite teW/ql5RmHL30AxzsKw0NZQ= =fTe2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mrtom at fedoraproject.org Thu Nov 22 16:03:07 2007 From: mrtom at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:03:07 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting next Sunday 1830 #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20071122170307.469ca52e@mrtomlinux.org> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2007-11-25 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (25 nov.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'h?sitez pas ? la modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent int?ressants. Thomas Canniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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And everybody is welcomed to participate in order to make it successful. At that time we are three who have plan to be their. Some questions still remains : Is it be a problem for the Fedora Community if we share our development room with CentOs as we did last year ? ( Go to the Fedora Fosdem 2008 wiki web page for more details - see below- ) Would Fedora community agree to share its development room with Red Hat JBoss ? I know we are on Fedora mailing list and it is not appropriated but as Fedora and Jboss are part of Red Hat and it will make like easier to FOSDEM Team to Group us together. That is why I did it. Do you know a point of contact for JBoss community for such event ? - What is about marketing stuffs ? what do we need ? How are we going to proceed ? Do you know fedora people who could be interested to present their project ? Thanks a lot for your help. Feel free to contact me if you have any question, remarks and so on... Rem: All details would be at the following URL : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008 Frederic Hornain Have fun with F8. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain From gerold at lugd.org Fri Nov 23 09:39:21 2007 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:39:21 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM -Brussels- Kick off In-Reply-To: <3161376e0711230122t4e8eb956v63cc7be66ad9f2e@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0711230122t4e8eb956v63cc7be66ad9f2e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1195810761.3545.13.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> Hi Frederic, nice to see you in the "planing team" for FOSDEM again :-) maybe you have noticed that "some" Ambassadors in EMEA are meeting this weekend at the FAD (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FAD2007) and I will bring also your event to the others .... maybe we'll have and find some answers :-) Regards so long Gerold Am Freitag, den 23.11.2007, 10:22 +0100 schrieb Frederic Hornain: > Hi, > > I glad to announce you the FOSDEM 2008 project start. > it will take place on 23 and 24 February 2008 > So, we have approximately three month to prepare it. > And everybody is welcomed to participate in order to make it successful. > At that time we are three who have plan to be their. > > Some questions still remains : > > Is it be a problem for the Fedora Community if we share our > development room with CentOs as we did last year ? ( Go to the Fedora > Fosdem 2008 wiki web page for more details - see below- ) > Would Fedora community agree to share its development room with Red > Hat JBoss ? I know we are on Fedora mailing list and it is not > appropriated but as Fedora and Jboss are part of Red Hat and it will > make like easier to FOSDEM Team to Group us together. That is why I > did it. > Do you know a point of contact for JBoss community for such event ? - > What is about marketing stuffs ? what do we need ? How are we going to > proceed ? > Do you know fedora people who could be interested to present their project ? > > Thanks a lot for your help. > Feel free to contact me if you have any question, remarks and so on... > > Rem: All details would be at the following URL : > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008 > > Frederic Hornain > Have fun with F8. > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Regards Gerold Kassube Fedora Ambassador Deutschland / Germany Schweiz / Switzerland Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Count me in for sure. > Some questions still remains : > > Is it be a problem for the Fedora Community if we share our > development room with CentOs as we did last year ? ( Go to the Fedora > Fosdem 2008 wiki web page for more details - see below- ) I'm sure it isn't. Hey! We are _open_ source! ;) > Would Fedora community agree to share its development room with Red > Hat JBoss ? I know we are on Fedora mailing list and it is not > appropriated but as Fedora and Jboss are part of Red Hat and it will > make like easier to FOSDEM Team to Group us together. That is why I > did it. > > Do you know a point of contact for JBoss community for such event ? - Hmm, maybe try http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb > What is about marketing stuffs ? what do we need ? How are we going to > proceed ? If everything goes in good way, I will have about 300 printed Fedora 8 DVD's for free distribution and may also have one workstation for demo. > Do you know fedora people who could be interested to present their project ? > > Thanks a lot for your help. > Feel free to contact me if you have any question, remarks and so on... > > Rem: All details would be at the following URL : > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008 > > Frederic Hornain > Have fun with F8. > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain -- Marek Mahut http://www.fedoraproject.org/ Fedora Project http://www.jamendo.com/ From couf at skynet.be Sat Nov 24 12:03:25 2007 From: couf at skynet.be (Bart Couvreur) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 13:03:25 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM -Brussels- Kick off In-Reply-To: <3161376e0711230122t4e8eb956v63cc7be66ad9f2e@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0711230122t4e8eb956v63cc7be66ad9f2e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1195905805.21684.14.camel@lapcouf.bercie23.homelinux.net> Op vrijdag 23-11-2007 om 10:22 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Frederic Hornain: > Hi, > > I glad to announce you the FOSDEM 2008 project start. > it will take place on 23 and 24 February 2008 > So, we have approximately three month to prepare it. > And everybody is welcomed to participate in order to make it successful. > At that time we are three who have plan to be their. Heh, well count me in too. > > Some questions still remains : > > Is it be a problem for the Fedora Community if we share our > development room with CentOs as we did last year ? ( Go to the Fedora > Fosdem 2008 wiki web page for more details - see below- ) > Would Fedora community agree to share its development room with Red > Hat JBoss ? I know we are on Fedora mailing list and it is not > appropriated but as Fedora and Jboss are part of Red Hat and it will > make like easier to FOSDEM Team to Group us together. That is why I > did it. I tend to prefer sharing with CentOS, as both projects are mainly about the distribution, whilst JBoss is something totally different. It could lead into some confusion. > Do you know a point of contact for JBoss community for such event ? - > What is about marketing stuffs ? what do we need ? How are we going to > proceed ? As we've still got three months, why not use this particular event as the official testcase for the Store SIG? > Do you know fedora people who could be interested to present their project ? > Probably a lot of people :-). It would be nice to focus on some projects that aren't to much in the spotlight, but tend to be important to Europeans, like L10N. It's a developers conference, let's try and get some developer-oriented sessions. Fire up those proposals! > Thanks a lot for your help. > Feel free to contact me if you have any question, remarks and so on... > > Rem: All details would be at the following URL : > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008 > > Frederic Hornain > Have fun with F8. > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain Bart -- Bart key fingerprint: 6AAB 544D 3432 D013 776D 3602 ADB6 6B2A D93F 0F93 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch Sat Nov 24 22:05:24 2007 From: red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch (red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:05:24 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Nomination for FAMSCo election In-Reply-To: <47489FE5.6090003@kanarip.com> References: <47489FE5.6090003@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <1195941924.4748a02424c37@www.mail2web.ch> +1 Quoting Jeroen van Meeuwen : > Hi All, > > Although the process is supposed to be self-nomination; > > Despite the fact he's able to loose his bread up to three times at a > Fondue, I really think we should nominate Andreas Rau. > > I personally think he represents what the EMEA Ambassadors stand for > -the latest FAD being the most recent proof. > > I've had a sitdown with him to see what his ambitions are, and he's > really dedicated at improving the EMEA Ambassadors situation. > > What do you think about the nomination of Andreas Rau? > > Kind regards, > > Jeroen van Meeuwen > -kanarip > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From pingoufc4 at yahoo.fr Sat Nov 24 22:05:01 2007 From: pingoufc4 at yahoo.fr (pingou) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:05:01 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Nomination for FAMSCo election In-Reply-To: <47489FE5.6090003@kanarip.com> References: <47489FE5.6090003@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <4748A00D.8030004@yahoo.fr> Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Hi All, > > Although the process is supposed to be self-nomination; > > Despite the fact he's able to loose his bread up to three times at a > Fondue, I really think we should nominate Andreas Rau. I entirely agree on that point :) > > I personally think he represents what the EMEA Ambassadors stand for > -the latest FAD being the most recent proof. > > I've had a sitdown with him to see what his ambitions are, and he's > really dedicated at improving the EMEA Ambassadors situation. > Sitting next I can only agree once again... :) > What do you think about the nomination of Andreas Rau? +10 Best regards, P.Yves ~pingou ___________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail r?invente le mail ! D?couvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface r?volutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From gerold at lugd.org Sat Nov 24 22:10:35 2007 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:10:35 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Nomination for FAMSCo election In-Reply-To: <47489FE5.6090003@kanarip.com> References: <47489FE5.6090003@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <1195942235.4496.4.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> Ladys Gentleman, I'm now working more than six years together with Andi in private in the same company; and I brought him up to the Fedora Project and it is a pleasure for me here to support als Andi for his nomination ... He will be one of my first choice if someone should be elected and he is standing on the list. Regards Gerold Oh, I forgot: Also my +1 ... together with my 10 cents :-) Am Samstag, den 24.11.2007, 23:04 +0100 schrieb Jeroen van Meeuwen: > Hi All, > > Although the process is supposed to be self-nomination; > > Despite the fact he's able to loose his bread up to three times at a > Fondue, I really think we should nominate Andreas Rau. > > I personally think he represents what the EMEA Ambassadors stand for > -the latest FAD being the most recent proof. > > I've had a sitdown with him to see what his ambitions are, and he's > really dedicated at improving the EMEA Ambassadors situation. > > What do you think about the nomination of Andreas Rau? > > Kind regards, > > Jeroen van Meeuwen > -kanarip > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Gerold Kassube -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From robert at fedoraproject.org Sat Nov 24 22:12:34 2007 From: robert at fedoraproject.org (Robert Scheck) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:12:34 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Nomination for FAMSCo election In-Reply-To: <47489FE5.6090003@kanarip.com> References: <47489FE5.6090003@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <20071124221234.GA20827@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> Evening all, On Sat, 24 Nov 2007, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > What do you think about the nomination of Andreas Rau? +1 Greetings, Robert From nayyares at gmail.com Sat Nov 24 22:16:10 2007 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:16:10 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Nomination for FAMSCo election In-Reply-To: <4748A00D.8030004@yahoo.fr> References: <47489FE5.6090003@kanarip.com> <4748A00D.8030004@yahoo.fr> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30711241416m43414d22ya44056bcd52f3f33@mail.gmail.com> although i was sitting far from you both, & was't witness of his bread hunt in Fondue, i still feel his name should be at nomination list. my +10 cheers On Nov 25, 2007 12:05 AM, pingou wrote: > Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Although the process is supposed to be self-nomination; > > > > Despite the fact he's able to loose his bread up to three times at a > > Fondue, I really think we should nominate Andreas Rau. > > I entirely agree on that point :) > > > > > I personally think he represents what the EMEA Ambassadors stand for > > -the latest FAD being the most recent proof. > > > > I've had a sitdown with him to see what his ambitions are, and he's > > really dedicated at improving the EMEA Ambassadors situation. > > > > Sitting next I can only agree once again... :) > > > What do you think about the nomination of Andreas Rau? > > +10 > > Best regards, > P.Yves > ~pingou > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail r?invente le mail ! D?couvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son > interface r?volutionnaire. > http://fr.mail.yahoo.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon at simline.de Sat Nov 24 22:16:56 2007 From: simon at simline.de (JoergSimon) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:16:56 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Nomination for FAMSCo election In-Reply-To: <47489FE5.6090003@kanarip.com> References: <47489FE5.6090003@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <200711242316.56727.simon@simline.de> Am Samstag, 24. November 2007 23:04:21 schrieb Jeroen van Meeuwen: > Despite the fact he's able to loose his bread up to three times at a > Fondue, I really think we should nominate Andreas Rau. > What do you think about the nomination of Andreas Rau? +1 -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Sat Nov 24 22:25:31 2007 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:25:31 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Nomination for FAMSCo election In-Reply-To: <47489FE5.6090003@kanarip.com> References: <47489FE5.6090003@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <50baabb30711241425wfc3b8dbi1f7c6cea4a447aa5@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 24, 2007 11:04 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Hi All, > > Although the process is supposed to be self-nomination; > > Despite the fact he's able to loose his bread up to three times at a > Fondue, I really think we should nominate Andreas Rau. > > I personally think he represents what the EMEA Ambassadors stand for > -the latest FAD being the most recent proof. > > I've had a sitdown with him to see what his ambitions are, and he's > really dedicated at improving the EMEA Ambassadors situation. Hello, I feel his ambitions were clear and precise. He showed some good qualities and he is motivated. This is important for me and he is as well a good asset to the Fedora European team. I'm happy that Jeroen brought this topic forward as Andreas is humble. > What do you think about the nomination of Andreas Rau? +1, I'll vote for him. regards, Chitlesh From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Sat Nov 24 22:13:13 2007 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 23:13:13 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Nomination for FAMSCo election In-Reply-To: <47489FE5.6090003@kanarip.com> References: <47489FE5.6090003@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <200711242313.13685.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Samstag, 24. November 2007 23:04:21 schrieb Jeroen van Meeuwen: > Despite the fact he's able to loose his bread up to three times at a > Fondue, I really think we should nominate Andreas Rau. > What do you think about the nomination of Andreas Rau? +1 -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Nov 25 10:22:29 2007 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 11:22:29 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Nomination for FAMSCo election In-Reply-To: <200711242313.13685.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <47489FE5.6090003@kanarip.com> <200711242313.13685.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: +1 too Best regards Francesco Ugolini 2007/11/24, JoergSimon : > > Am Samstag, 24. November 2007 23:04:21 schrieb Jeroen van Meeuwen: > > Despite the fact he's able to loose his bread up to three times at a > > Fondue, I really think we should nominate Andreas Rau. > > What do you think about the nomination of Andreas Rau? > > +1 > > -- > J?rg Simon > jsimon at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon > Key Fingerprint: > 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fab at fedoraproject.org Sun Nov 25 18:11:16 2007 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:11:16 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Monthly ambassadors meeting EMEA Message-ID: <4749BAC4.9090802@fedoraproject.org> Hi all, The FAD EMEA 2007 [1] is over. Yesterday, we agreed that the meeting time should be later in the evening than 19.00 UTC. The new time is 20.00 UTC (local time is 21.00 during the winter and 22.00 during the summer) Thomas Canniot will send a reminder. Just to inform you, the first meeting will take place at December 12th, 2007 [3]. If you don't live in the EMEA area you are welcome to join, too. The meetings will be open for everybody but the focus will be on topics of this specific area. Kind regards, Fabian [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADEMEA2007 [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2007-12-12 From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Sun Nov 25 18:34:37 2007 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:34:37 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election Message-ID: <200711251934.43813.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Hello Fellows, in the past FabianAffolter did so much hard work, that normaly has to be done by FAmSCo so my wish is to see Fabian for the election of FAmSCo. I know FAmSCo wishes selfnomitation - so Fabian - you know what to do ;-) - i hope this will bring new drive and attraction to FAmSCo. Cheers -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mostly the Ambassadors in EMEA know me in person and know me also as a "Leader" who organises, who has ideas and -now comes the point- gives "jobs" to someone who has to do it :-) And what shall I say?! Fabian is one of the man who "works" also close to me in my mmmmmmmh let's call it "backoffice"; ... And if I say "works", I mean works. He did every job I gave him in a time that you can't believe, he's like a busy ant. I can totally trust him in every manner and I don't have to look if it's done in the way I want it because it is done in the way everybody wants and like it (and btw. my errors are gone which I made) ... Fabian mostly works in the back; but everybody participate his work he's done for me (personaly), for the Translation Team and for the Project. So myself also endorses Fabians election for a FAMSCo-seat! and also here my 10 cents and a thick +1 GO AHEAD Fabian and do what we want you to do: NOMINATE YOURSELF for FAMSCo; you'll have the voices of every "active Ambassador" in EMEA and I'm also sure elsewhere in the world :-) Regards Gerold Am Sonntag, den 25.11.2007, 19:34 +0100 schrieb JoergSimon: > Hello Fellows, > > in the past FabianAffolter did so much hard work, that normaly has to be done > by FAmSCo so my wish is to see Fabian for the election of FAmSCo. I know > FAmSCo wishes selfnomitation - so Fabian - you know what to do ;-) - i hope > this will bring new drive and attraction to FAmSCo. > > Cheers > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Gerold Kassube -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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They start to try nomination FAMSCo ... > ... and also try to volunteer the persons they want to have elected by > us ..." > > OK, back to the key point that JoergSimon wants to have also the > selfnomination of FabianAffolter; I want that nomination also and > totally agree. Mostly the Ambassadors in EMEA know me in person and know > me also as a "Leader" who organises, who has ideas and -now comes the > point- gives "jobs" to someone who has to do it :-) > > And what shall I say?! Fabian is one of the man who "works" also close > to me in my mmmmmmmh let's call it "backoffice"; ... > And if I say "works", I mean works. He did every job I gave him in a > time that you can't believe, he's like a busy ant. I can totally trust > him in every manner and I don't have to look if it's done in the way I > want it because it is done in the way everybody wants and like it (and > btw. my errors are gone which I made) ... > Fabian mostly works in the back; but everybody participate his work he's > done for me (personaly), for the Translation Team and for the Project. > > So myself also endorses Fabians election for a FAMSCo-seat! > > and also here my 10 cents and a thick > > +1 > > GO AHEAD Fabian and do what we want you to do: NOMINATE YOURSELF for > FAMSCo; you'll have the voices of every "active Ambassador" in EMEA and > I'm also sure elsewhere in the world :-) > > Regards > > Gerold > > > Am Sonntag, den 25.11.2007, 19:34 +0100 schrieb JoergSimon: > > Hello Fellows, > > > > in the past FabianAffolter did so much hard work, that normaly has to be > done > > by FAmSCo so my wish is to see Fabian for the election of FAmSCo. I know > > FAmSCo wishes selfnomitation - so Fabian - you know what to do ;-) - i > hope > > this will bring new drive and attraction to FAmSCo. > > > > Cheers > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- > Gerold Kassube > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Sun Nov 25 21:23:07 2007 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:23:07 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election In-Reply-To: <1196017542.3605.20.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> References: <200711251934.43813.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1196017542.3605.20.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: <50baabb30711251323i61915876h6b473a530cf0442a@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 25, 2007 8:05 PM, Gerold Kassube wrote: > OK, back to the key point that JoergSimon wants to have also the > selfnomination of FabianAffolter; I want that nomination also and > totally agree. Hello, +1. Fabian nominate yourself, please! We brought this topic forward (this morning at the FAD) personally to FabianAffolter. He was shy and humble, but he didn't object at all. > Mostly the Ambassadors in EMEA know me in person and know > me also as a "Leader" who organises, who has ideas and -now comes the > point- gives "jobs" to someone who has to do it :-) I'm sorry Gerold, these are the qualities of a FAMSCo member that you have. Shouldn't you nominate yourself together with Fabian, since you two do great job together ? :) regards, Chitlesh From gerold at lugd.org Sun Nov 25 21:35:19 2007 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:35:19 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election In-Reply-To: <50baabb30711251323i61915876h6b473a530cf0442a@mail.gmail.com> References: <200711251934.43813.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1196017542.3605.20.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <50baabb30711251323i61915876h6b473a530cf0442a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1196026519.3605.29.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> > I'm sorry Gerold, these are the qualities of a FAMSCo member that you have. > Shouldn't you nominate yourself together with Fabian, since you two do > great job together ? :) > > regards, > Chitlesh ^^ Thanks for your warm and honest words Chitlesh! As you know, I've changed my job a few month ago and there I have to put a lot of time till I get my workplace as I want it to have. Because this is a financial issue :-) Please don't push me now to self nominate for FAMSCo in this period; there are too many other issues (Fedora and EMEA related, too) I have to solve before ... In the next period maybe we'll see. First I'll do another kind of work together with Jeroen (or assist him) however; ... Once again; Sorry but not this period. On the other hand, we have three active Ambassadors from EMEA who should be elected! Friendly yours Gerold -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Best Regards Fred From mmahut at fedoraproject.org Mon Nov 26 09:54:31 2007 From: mmahut at fedoraproject.org (Marek Mahut) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:54:31 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Nomination for FAMSCo election In-Reply-To: <47489FE5.6090003@kanarip.com> References: <47489FE5.6090003@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <474A97D7.1020005@fedoraproject.org> Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Hi All, > > Although the process is supposed to be self-nomination; > > Despite the fact he's able to loose his bread up to three times at a > Fondue, I really think we should nominate Andreas Rau. > > I personally think he represents what the EMEA Ambassadors stand for > -the latest FAD being the most recent proof. > > I've had a sitdown with him to see what his ambitions are, and he's > really dedicated at improving the EMEA Ambassadors situation. > > What do you think about the nomination of Andreas Rau? > > Kind regards, > > Jeroen van Meeuwen +1, you're right. Thank you Andi! -- Marek Mahut http://www.fedoraproject.org/ Fedora Project http://www.jamendo.com/ From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 13:04:43 2007 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:34:43 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora for Zseries - Mainframe - In-Reply-To: <3161376e0711260118v1b2f7b49h77e96b628f7f322@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0711260118v1b2f7b49h77e96b628f7f322@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Probably 64 bit machine..so may be x86_64 iso. Not too sure though. -- Regards, Susmit. ====================================== ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ====================================== From fhornain at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 14:13:26 2007 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:13:26 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora for Zseries - Mainframe - In-Reply-To: References: <3161376e0711260118v1b2f7b49h77e96b628f7f322@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0711260613rb567c8ey30a2cd51eba08c7e@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Well, I am looking for S390 or S390x architecture. Thanks for your help. Best Regards Fred On Nov 26, 2007 2:04 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Probably 64 bit machine..so may be x86_64 iso. Not too sure though. > > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ====================================== > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi > ====================================== > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 14:25:00 2007 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:55:00 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora for Zseries - Mainframe - In-Reply-To: <3161376e0711260613rb567c8ey30a2cd51eba08c7e@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0711260118v1b2f7b49h77e96b628f7f322@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0711260613rb567c8ey30a2cd51eba08c7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Well, I am looking for S390 or S390x architecture. Are you looking for these? http://mirror.hosting-concepts.com/pub/os/linux/fedora/development/ http://curl.rtin.bz/download.html http://dir.filewatcher.com/d/Fedora.0.0.htm -- Regards, Susmit. ====================================== ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ====================================== From fhornain at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 14:27:11 2007 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:27:11 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora for Zseries - Mainframe - In-Reply-To: References: <3161376e0711260118v1b2f7b49h77e96b628f7f322@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0711260613rb567c8ey30a2cd51eba08c7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0711260627u3e3928a0j97deff705198f565@mail.gmail.com> Yes, I do. On Nov 26, 2007 3:25 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > Well, I am looking for S390 or S390x architecture. > > Are you looking for these? > > > http://mirror.hosting-concepts.com/pub/os/linux/fedora/development/ > http://curl.rtin.bz/download.html > http://dir.filewatcher.com/d/Fedora.0.0.htm > > -- > > Regards, > Susmit. > > ====================================== > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi > ====================================== > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org From fhornain at gmail.com Mon Nov 26 14:27:50 2007 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:27:50 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora for Zseries - Mainframe - In-Reply-To: <3161376e0711260627u3e3928a0j97deff705198f565@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0711260118v1b2f7b49h77e96b628f7f322@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0711260613rb567c8ey30a2cd51eba08c7e@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0711260627u3e3928a0j97deff705198f565@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0711260627y1d9b93f7kee237965a398f7af@mail.gmail.com> Well, I am. On Nov 26, 2007 3:27 PM, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Yes, I do. > > > On Nov 26, 2007 3:25 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > > Well, I am looking for S390 or S390x architecture. > > > > Are you looking for these? > > > > > > http://mirror.hosting-concepts.com/pub/os/linux/fedora/development/ > > http://curl.rtin.bz/download.html > > http://dir.filewatcher.com/d/Fedora.0.0.htm > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > Susmit. > > > > ====================================== > > ssh > > 0x86DD170A > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi > > ====================================== > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > Olpc mailing list > olpc-open at laptop.org > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org From robert at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 27 18:46:17 2007 From: robert at fedoraproject.org (Robert Scheck) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:46:17 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election In-Reply-To: <200711251934.43813.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200711251934.43813.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20071127184617.GA862@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> Hello all, On Sun, 25 Nov 2007, JoergSimon wrote: > in the past FabianAffolter did so much hard work, that normaly has to be done > by FAmSCo so my wish is to see Fabian for the election of FAmSCo. I know > FAmSCo wishes selfnomitation - so Fabian - you know what to do ;-) - i hope > this will bring new drive and attraction to FAmSCo. I really appreciate Fabian's work - even when he thinks, that what he's writing and speaking is German (because it's Swiss-German). Okay...just enough kidding now. Fabian has great ideas and suggestions which would be in better ears at FamSCo, so all what I can say is: +1 Greetings, Robert From fab at fedoraproject.org Tue Nov 27 22:14:01 2007 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:14:01 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Leader for the monthly meetings In-Reply-To: <473A8155.3000509@binaryvibes.co.in> References: <4727B983.7040904@fedoraproject.org> <473230EB.5010900@fedoraproject.org> <4734E06E.1070409@fedoraproject.org> <473A236A.4070204@fedoraproject.org> <473A8155.3000509@binaryvibes.co.in> Message-ID: <474C96A9.2030008@fedoraproject.org> Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote: >> APAC ? Hello there...you are around 80 ambassadors and nothing to >> discuss? One volunteer from APAC and the annoying messages from me >> about the meeting leader will stop immediately ;-) >> > I too am surprised that there is no volunteer from APAC. I was hoping to > see someone more active than me to take the lead. I will watch the list > carefully for couple of days more. If nobody turns up, I will volunteer > myself to lead monthly meetings. The leader for APAC is still missing. I hope that you will take the opportunity to lead the monthly ambassador meetings in your area. Kind regards, Fabian From nayyares at gmail.com Tue Nov 27 23:04:46 2007 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:04:46 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election In-Reply-To: <20071127184617.GA862@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> References: <200711251934.43813.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <20071127184617.GA862@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30711271504o5c1a0e94me8b73100fdca4cb2@mail.gmail.com> Keeping his work for Fedora , i personally feel his presence in FAmSCo. +1 Cheers On Nov 27, 2007 8:46 PM, Robert Scheck wrote: > Hello all, > > On Sun, 25 Nov 2007, JoergSimon wrote: > > in the past FabianAffolter did so much hard work, that normaly has to be > done > > by FAmSCo so my wish is to see Fabian for the election of FAmSCo. I know > > FAmSCo wishes selfnomitation - so Fabian - you know what to do ;-) - i > hope > > this will bring new drive and attraction to FAmSCo. > > I really appreciate Fabian's work - even when he thinks, that what he's > writing and speaking is German (because it's Swiss-German). Okay...just > enough kidding now. Fabian has great ideas and suggestions which would be > in better ears at FamSCo, so all what I can say is: > > +1 > > > Greetings, > Robert > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alajal at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 00:07:46 2007 From: alajal at gmail.com (Mustafa Qasim) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 05:07:46 +0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Leader for the monthly meetings In-Reply-To: <474C96A9.2030008@fedoraproject.org> References: <4727B983.7040904@fedoraproject.org> <473230EB.5010900@fedoraproject.org> <4734E06E.1070409@fedoraproject.org> <473A236A.4070204@fedoraproject.org> <473A8155.3000509@binaryvibes.co.in> <474C96A9.2030008@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <2c21bbf00711271607y37ac3f60tdac2aad6c479afe9@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 28, 2007 3:14 AM, Fabian Affolter wrote: > Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote: > > >> APAC ? Hello there...you are around 80 ambassadors and nothing to > >> discuss? One volunteer from APAC and the annoying messages from me > >> about the meeting leader will stop immediately ;-) > >> > > I too am surprised that there is no volunteer from APAC. I was hoping to > > see someone more active than me to take the lead. I will watch the list > > carefully for couple of days more. If nobody turns up, I will volunteer > > myself to lead monthly meetings. > > The leader for APAC is still missing. I hope that you will take the > opportunity to lead the monthly ambassador meetings in your area. > > Kind regards, > > Fabian > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Hello! I am newbie ambassador from Pakistan. I don't know about the whole stuff but can offer my services as co-coordinator for APAC meetings. I am wondering is it such a difficult work that no one is coming forward? or the respected ambassadors didn't have sufficient time. Well, what is to do now? -- Regards, Mustafa Qasim Lahore, Pakistan Cell: 0321-6614972 URL: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MustafaQasim Registered Linux User# 441709. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Engels - -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EngelsAntonio -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHTQlQx5EDGnom4akRAgX+AJ9C9zXDWYnVeywaKuOg0BvXJFz6pwCeOluL RLsTGt/AdYvhVuw6AF5lhgo= =RAJh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Nov 28 07:58:31 2007 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:58:31 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introductions In-Reply-To: <40362.10.0.0.4.1196230993.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> References: <40362.10.0.0.4.1196230993.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> Message-ID: <369bce3b0711272358g672b2229o84205b13346308ac@mail.gmail.com> On 27/11/2007, Engels Antonio wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > I am a new Fedora Ambassador from the Philippines and I just wanted to say > hello to everyone. :) > > My first act as FA was to showcase Fedora at the Asia-Pacific Economic > Cooperation Digital Opportunity Center (http://apecdoc.org/) during their > Train the Trainors program a few days ago. I hope to contribute more to > the Fedora Ambassadors Project soon. > > Regards, > > Engels Welcome the project! Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tatadbb at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 08:54:39 2007 From: tatadbb at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 04:54:39 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introductions In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0711272358g672b2229o84205b13346308ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <40362.10.0.0.4.1196230993.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> <369bce3b0711272358g672b2229o84205b13346308ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <27a6293b0711280054l16386dcfy3968c399567e2157@mail.gmail.com> Me too!!!! I'm a new Venezuelan Ambassador and happy of finally join this team :D Actually, I'm working in the Fedora mascot and F9 theme and in my country, I help working hard on IRC channel, preparing some meetings and improving the Fedora local wiki of Venezuela. Greetings from the land of beautiful girls and kind gentlemen!!!! 2007/11/28, Thomas Chung : > > On 27/11/2007, Engels Antonio wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi, > > > > I am a new Fedora Ambassador from the Philippines and I just wanted to > say > > hello to everyone. :) > > > > My first act as FA was to showcase Fedora at the Asia-Pacific Economic > > Cooperation Digital Opportunity Center (http://apecdoc.org/) during > their > > Train the Trainors program a few days ago. I hope to contribute more to > > the Fedora Ambassadors Project soon. > > > > Regards, > > > > Engels > > Welcome the project! > Regards, > -- > Thomas Chung > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danishka at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 09:06:21 2007 From: danishka at gmail.com (Danishka Navin) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:36:21 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction Message-ID: Hi guys, I am Danishka Navin, and working as a new Fedora Ambassador for Sri Lanka. At the moment one of my News paper Article on Fedora localization for Sinhala language pending for the publishing. Sinhala is the national language of Sri Lanka. I'll do my best on behalf of Fedora Ambassadors Project. wiki: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DanishkaNavi -- Danishka Navin http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Teams/Sinhala -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fhornain at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 09:23:38 2007 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:23:38 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FUDCON at FOSDEM 2008 Message-ID: <3161376e0711280123n60ea2f07h2e62c1c5bfef869@mail.gmail.com> Dear * What do you think about a FUDCON at FOSDEM 2008 ? Kind Regards Frederic Hornain http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain From j.phulewala at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 09:17:30 2007 From: j.phulewala at gmail.com (Jaswinder Singh) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:47:30 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <474D322A.6020309@gmail.com> Hi Denishka Welcome here !!! Danishka Navin ?? ?????: > Hi guys, > > I am Danishka Navin, and working as a new Fedora Ambassador for Sri Lanka. > > At the moment one of my News paper Article on Fedora localization for > > Sinhala language pending for the publishing. > Sinhala is the national language of Sri Lanka. > I'll do my best on behalf of Fedora Ambassadors Project. > > wiki: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DanishkaNavi > > > > -- > Danishka Navin > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Teams/Sinhala > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From nayyares at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 09:38:37 2007 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:38:37 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30711280138l20595d61x17bd72c6cbc91e10@mail.gmail.com> Welcome Danishka ! if you need any sort of help in publishing of your articles please d'nt hesitate in asking us, we would like to have some one writing for Fedora in Sri lanka. cheers On Nov 28, 2007 11:06 AM, Danishka Navin wrote: > Hi guys, > > I am Danishka Navin, and working as a new Fedora Ambassador for Sri Lanka. > > At the moment one of my News paper Article on Fedora localization for > Sinhala language pending for the publishing. > Sinhala is the national language of Sri Lanka. > I'll do my best on behalf of Fedora Ambassadors Project. > > wiki: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DanishkaNavi > > > > > > -- > Danishka Navin > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Teams/Sinhala > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gabriel.lovison at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 12:19:22 2007 From: gabriel.lovison at gmail.com (Gabriel Lovison) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:19:22 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introductions In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0711280054l16386dcfy3968c399567e2157@mail.gmail.com> References: <40362.10.0.0.4.1196230993.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> <369bce3b0711272358g672b2229o84205b13346308ac@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0711280054l16386dcfy3968c399567e2157@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello for all I'm a new Brazilian Ambassador! \o/ On Nov 28, 2007 6:54 AM, Mar?a Leandro wrote: > Me too!!!! > > I'm a new Venezuelan Ambassador and happy of finally join this team :D > > Actually, I'm working in the Fedora mascot and F9 theme and in my country, > I help working hard on IRC channel, preparing some meetings and improving > the Fedora local wiki of Venezuela. > > > > Greetings from the land of beautiful girls and kind gentlemen!!!! > > > > 2007/11/28, Thomas Chung : > > > On 27/11/2007, Engels Antonio wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am a new Fedora Ambassador from the Philippines and I just wanted to > > say > > > hello to everyone. :) > > > > > > My first act as FA was to showcase Fedora at the Asia-Pacific Economic > > > Cooperation Digital Opportunity Center (http://apecdoc.org/) during > > their > > > Train the Trainors program a few days ago. I hope to contribute more > > to > > > the Fedora Ambassadors Project soon. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Engels > > > > Welcome the project! > > Regards, > > -- > > Thomas Chung > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.iseit.net > http://www.latinux.org > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Gabriel Z. Lovison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I will working with another brazilian ambassadors spreading the "Fedora Culture" in Brazil. -- Gabriel Z. Lovison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Wed Nov 28 14:27:50 2007 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:27:50 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FUDCON at FOSDEM 2008 In-Reply-To: <3161376e0711280123n60ea2f07h2e62c1c5bfef869@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0711280123n60ea2f07h2e62c1c5bfef869@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1196260070.10891.24.camel@redhat> Hi everybody ;) On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 10:23 +0100, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Dear * > > What do you think about a FUDCON at FOSDEM 2008 ? This is a great idea. +1 :) I've got a question about accomodation at FOSDEM. Are we planning to reserve some common hostel/hotel (although I'd prefer hostel because of costs)? I think it'd make an eventual FUDCon easier and make the integration easier :) And, of course, count me in, too :) Regards, Pawel From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Wed Nov 28 14:35:45 2007 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:35:45 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FUDCON at FOSDEM 2008 In-Reply-To: <3161376e0711280123n60ea2f07h2e62c1c5bfef869@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0711280123n60ea2f07h2e62c1c5bfef869@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1196260545.10891.28.camel@redhat> And one more thing. Do you think we need to say something about Fedora Project, its goals, philosophy etc.? If yes, I could do it so :) Cheers, Pawel From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Wed Nov 28 16:50:05 2007 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:50:05 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introductions In-Reply-To: References: <40362.10.0.0.4.1196230993.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> <369bce3b0711272358g672b2229o84205b13346308ac@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0711280054l16386dcfy3968c399567e2157@mail.gmail.com> <539333cb0711280439v41b11791w7519454f8aab4571@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <474D9C3D.7010802@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Welcome Gabriel!!! Rodrigo Padula Brazilian Fedora Project Gabriel Lovison escreveu: > ... > I will working with another brazilian ambassadors spreading the "Fedora > Culture" in Brazil. > > -- > Gabriel Z. Lovison > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHTZw9Pg3HAC1vlg4RAi51AKCZMaCVmjRvWytVPs22b+s8aT7dpwCeP7sn cP4PBmRx+nCRQS2tULgQoiE= =qTLw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ciceromo at fedoraproject.org Wed Nov 28 14:21:02 2007 From: ciceromo at fedoraproject.org (Cicero Monthiel) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:21:02 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introductions In-Reply-To: <474D9C3D.7010802@projetofedora.org> References: <40362.10.0.0.4.1196230993.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> <369bce3b0711272358g672b2229o84205b13346308ac@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0711280054l16386dcfy3968c399567e2157@mail.gmail.com> <539333cb0711280439v41b11791w7519454f8aab4571@mail.gmail.com> <474D9C3D.7010802@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <9d109dc80711280621o11e7d088jb62b69b24370090c@mail.gmail.com> Hi everyone, I am a new Fedora Embassador from S?o Paulo, Brazil and very happy of finally join this team. I'll work with another Brazilian Embassador spreading the Fedora Project in Brazil. -- Regards, Cicero Monthiel http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CiceroMonthiel 2007/11/28, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira : > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Welcome Gabriel!!! > > Rodrigo Padula > Brazilian Fedora Project > > > Gabriel Lovison escreveu: > > ... > > I will working with another brazilian ambassadors spreading the "Fedora > > Culture" in Brazil. > > > > -- > > Gabriel Z. 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But if you want to register as speaker, feel free to do it. Kind regards Fred http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain On Nov 28, 2007 3:35 PM, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > And one more thing. Do you think we need to say something about Fedora > Project, its goals, philosophy etc.? If yes, I could do it so :) > > Cheers, > > Pawel > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Wed Nov 28 17:29:09 2007 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:29:09 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introductions In-Reply-To: <9d109dc80711280621o11e7d088jb62b69b24370090c@mail.gmail.com> References: <40362.10.0.0.4.1196230993.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> <369bce3b0711272358g672b2229o84205b13346308ac@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0711280054l16386dcfy3968c399567e2157@mail.gmail.com> <539333cb0711280439v41b11791w7519454f8aab4571@mail.gmail.com> <474D9C3D.7010802@projetofedora.org> <9d109dc80711280621o11e7d088jb62b69b24370090c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <474DA565.1050609@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Cicero Monthiel escreveu: > Hi everyone, > > I am a new Fedora Embassador from S?o Paulo, Brazil and very happy of > finally join this team. > > I'll work with another Brazilian Embassador spreading the Fedora Project > in Brazil. > > -- > Regards, > Cicero Monthiel > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CiceroMonthiel Hi Cicero!! "Join us now and share the software" heheheh Fedora-mktg-brazil mailing list Fedora-mktg-brazil at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-mktg-brazil Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira www.projetofedora.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHTaVlPg3HAC1vlg4RAnW7AKCohEEjqYgtUHcJCnadOZ5q5uVXXgCggeYV xI03KgasBL86KOAz9dkPsxY= =38fL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From henrique_csj at yahoo.com.br Wed Nov 28 14:47:16 2007 From: henrique_csj at yahoo.com.br (Henrique de Castro) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:47:16 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introductions In-Reply-To: <474DA565.1050609@projetofedora.org> References: <40362.10.0.0.4.1196230993.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> <369bce3b0711272358g672b2229o84205b13346308ac@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0711280054l16386dcfy3968c399567e2157@mail.gmail.com> <539333cb0711280439v41b11791w7519454f8aab4571@mail.gmail.com> <474D9C3D.7010802@projetofedora.org> <9d109dc80711280621o11e7d088jb62b69b24370090c@mail.gmail.com> <474DA565.1050609@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <4f629b520711280647v5d714337pd0a5b698489a92ae@mail.gmail.com> welcome to all. =D 2007/11/28, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira : > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Cicero Monthiel escreveu: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I am a new Fedora Embassador from S?o Paulo, Brazil and very happy of > > finally join this team. > > > > I'll work with another Brazilian Embassador spreading the Fedora Project > > in Brazil. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Cicero Monthiel > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CiceroMonthiel > > > Hi Cicero!! > > "Join us now and share the software" heheheh > > Fedora-mktg-brazil mailing list > Fedora-mktg-brazil at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-mktg-brazil > > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > www.projetofedora.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFHTaVlPg3HAC1vlg4RAnW7AKCohEEjqYgtUHcJCnadOZ5q5uVXXgCggeYV > xI03KgasBL86KOAz9dkPsxY= > =38fL > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Henrique "LonelySpooky" Junior ------------------------------------------------------------- "The best diplomat that I know is a fully-loaded phaser bank." 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I think it'd make an eventual FUDCon easier and make the > >integration easier :) > > No plan have been done for that topic. > However, it could be interesting to have feed back from fedora people > who came last year. I was there this year and there was no common accomodation. I was also on LinuxTag 2007 and we had an organized accomodation IMHO it was much better option :) > >Do you think we need to say something about Fedora Project, its > >goals, philosophy etc.? If yes, I could do it so :) > No defined yet. But if you want to register as speaker, feel free to do it. Ok, I'll register myself as a speaker when there'll be an opinion we need to say something about the Fedora Project in general. I'm waiting to hear opinions from the rest of ambassadors. > Kind regards > Fred > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain > > > On Nov 28, 2007 3:35 PM, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > > And one more thing. Do you think we need to say something about Fedora > > Project, its goals, philosophy etc.? If yes, I could do it so :) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Pawel > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > From pablo.barrera at proyectofedora.org Wed Nov 28 15:47:51 2007 From: pablo.barrera at proyectofedora.org (pablo.barrera at proyectofedora.org) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 13:47:51 -0200 (BRST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Introductions In-Reply-To: <9d109dc80711280621o11e7d088jb62b69b24370090c@mail.gmail.com> References: <40362.10.0.0.4.1196230993.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> <369bce3b0711272358g672b2229o84205b13346308ac@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0711280054l16386dcfy3968c399567e2157@mail.gmail.com> <539333cb0711280439v41b11791w7519454f8aab4571@mail.gmail.com> <474D9C3D.7010802@projetofedora.org> <9d109dc80711280621o11e7d088jb62b69b24370090c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <61525.190.50.197.191.1196264871.squirrel@www.proyectofedora.org> Welcome Brothers! We are becoming more stronger in the region! I wil travel to Colombia to help fund the Fedora Project There next week so,, its time toi grow!!!!! Best regards from Argentina Pablo Barrera > Hi everyone, > > I am a new Fedora Embassador from S?o Paulo, Brazil and very happy of > finally join this team. > > I'll work with another Brazilian Embassador spreading the Fedora Project > in > Brazil. > > -- > Regards, > Cicero Monthiel > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CiceroMonthiel > > > 2007/11/28, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira : >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Welcome Gabriel!!! >> >> Rodrigo Padula >> Brazilian Fedora Project >> >> >> Gabriel Lovison escreveu: >> > ... >> > I will working with another brazilian ambassadors spreading the >> "Fedora >> > Culture" in Brazil. >> > >> > -- >> > Gabriel Z. Lovison >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > -- >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) >> >> iD8DBQFHTZw9Pg3HAC1vlg4RAi51AKCZMaCVmjRvWytVPs22b+s8aT7dpwCeP7sn >> cP4PBmRx+nCRQS2tULgQoiE= >> =qTLw >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From gerold at lugd.org Wed Nov 28 18:45:01 2007 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:45:01 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FUDCON at FOSDEM 2008 In-Reply-To: <1196267163.10891.39.camel@redhat> References: <3161376e0711280123n60ea2f07h2e62c1c5bfef869@mail.gmail.com> <1196260545.10891.28.camel@redhat> <3161376e0711280602m2c6787bchcaedd280ad0eb5b4@mail.gmail.com> <1196267163.10891.39.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <1196275501.3637.9.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> -1 because of: -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > Von: Pascal Bleser > Antwort an: FOSDEM DevRooms > An: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller , Greg Casamento , Helge Hess , gerold at lugd.org > Kopie: FOSDEM DevRooms > Betreff: [FOSDEM] No Devroom/stand for OpenGroupware+GNUstep :( > Datum: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:19:40 +0100 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi all > > I'm afraid that we decided not to give a Developer Room nor stand for > Opengroupware+GNUstep at FOSDEM 2008. > The problem, as every year, is that we receive many more requests than > we have rooms and stands (and hosting in more rooms would be pointless > because we'd have over 300 talks, also making it a nightmare for us to > organize and manage during the week-end). Because of that, we have to > pick, subjectively. > > Hoping to see you at FOSDEM 2008 nevertheless, and thanks for your > interest in the event. > > With kind regards, > - -- > -o) Pascal Bleser http://www.fosdem.org > /\\ FOSDEM 2008 :: 23 + 24 February 2008 in Brussels > _\_v Free and Opensource Software Developers European Meeting > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org Second, we have (if we really have ; Please Frederic ask for confirmation) a shared room together with the CentOS guys. And unfortunately I personaly believe such a FUDCon will not have such an access as we appreciate to have .. Maybe, you decide otherwise; but this are my thoughts about. Regards Gerold Am Mittwoch, den 28.11.2007, 17:26 +0100 schrieb Pawel Sadowski: > On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 15:02 +0100, Frederic Hornain wrote: > > Hi, > > > > >This is a great idea. > > >+1 :) > > Happy to hear that. > > > > > > >I've got a question about accomodation at FOSDEM. Are we planning to > > >reserve some common hostel/hotel (although I'd prefer hostel because of > > >costs)? I think it'd make an eventual FUDCon easier and make the > > >integration easier :) > > > > No plan have been done for that topic. > > However, it could be interesting to have feed back from fedora people > > who came last year. > > I was there this year and there was no common accomodation. I was also > on LinuxTag 2007 and we had an organized accomodation IMHO it was much > better option :) > > > >Do you think we need to say something about Fedora Project, its > > >goals, philosophy etc.? If yes, I could do it so :) > > No defined yet. But if you want to register as speaker, feel free to do it. > > Ok, I'll register myself as a speaker when there'll be an opinion we > need to say something about the Fedora Project in general. I'm waiting > to hear opinions from the rest of ambassadors. > > > Kind regards > > Fred > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain > > > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 3:35 PM, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > > > And one more thing. Do you think we need to say something about Fedora > > > Project, its goals, philosophy etc.? 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Alasdair -- agk at redhat.com From nayyares at gmail.com Wed Nov 28 19:51:24 2007 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:51:24 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] FUDCON at FOSDEM 2008 In-Reply-To: <1196275501.3637.9.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> References: <3161376e0711280123n60ea2f07h2e62c1c5bfef869@mail.gmail.com> <1196260545.10891.28.camel@redhat> <3161376e0711280602m2c6787bchcaedd280ad0eb5b4@mail.gmail.com> <1196267163.10891.39.camel@redhat> <1196275501.3637.9.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30711281151u43ad96d3i1121356a2eb8c4ba@mail.gmail.com> On Nov 28, 2007 8:45 PM, Gerold Kassube wrote: > -1 > > because of: > > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > > Von: Pascal Bleser > > Antwort an: FOSDEM DevRooms > > An: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller , Greg Casamento < > greg_casamento at yahoo.com>, Helge Hess , > gerold at lugd.org > > Kopie: FOSDEM DevRooms > > Betreff: [FOSDEM] No Devroom/stand for OpenGroupware+GNUstep :( > > Datum: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:19:40 +0100 > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi all > > > > I'm afraid that we decided not to give a Developer Room nor stand for > > Opengroupware+GNUstep at FOSDEM 2008. > > The problem, as every year, is that we receive many more requests than > > we have rooms and stands (and hosting in more rooms would be pointless > > because we'd have over 300 talks, also making it a nightmare for us to > > organize and manage during the week-end). Because of that, we have to > > pick, subjectively. > > > > Hoping to see you at FOSDEM 2008 nevertheless, and thanks for your > > interest in the event. > > > > With kind regards, > > - -- > > -o) Pascal Bleser http://www.fosdem.org > > /\\ FOSDEM 2008 :: 23 + 24 February 2008 in Brussels > > _\_v Free and Opensource Software Developers European Meeting > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > Second, we have (if we really have ; Please Frederic ask for confirmation) > a shared room together with the CentOS guys. And unfortunately I personaly > believe such a FUDCon will not have such an access as we appreciate to have > .. Yeah, I myself feel that having a FUDCon at a shared room with Centos will not make an impression as it will give a hint to people about Fedora's unwanted affiliation with Centos, although we (Fedora) d'nt have any issue with sharing the room, but FUDCon has some meaning for us, we should try to avoid such Mix-up, that makes people confused about Fedora. -1 cheers > > > Maybe, you decide otherwise; but this are my thoughts about. > > Regards > > Gerold > > > > Am Mittwoch, den 28.11.2007, 17:26 +0100 schrieb Pawel Sadowski: > > On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 15:02 +0100, Frederic Hornain wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > >This is a great idea. > > > >+1 :) > > > Happy to hear that. > > > > > > > > > >I've got a question about accomodation at FOSDEM. Are we planning to > > > >reserve some common hostel/hotel (although I'd prefer hostel because > of > > > >costs)? I think it'd make an eventual FUDCon easier and make the > > > >integration easier :) > > > > > > No plan have been done for that topic. > > > However, it could be interesting to have feed back from fedora people > > > who came last year. > > > > I was there this year and there was no common accomodation. I was also > > on LinuxTag 2007 and we had an organized accomodation IMHO it was much > > better option :) > > > > > >Do you think we need to say something about Fedora Project, its > > > >goals, philosophy etc.? If yes, I could do it so :) > > > No defined yet. But if you want to register as speaker, feel free to > do it. > > > > Ok, I'll register myself as a speaker when there'll be an opinion we > > need to say something about the Fedora Project in general. I'm waiting > > to hear opinions from the rest of ambassadors. > > > > > Kind regards > > > Fred > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain > > > > > > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 3:35 PM, Pawel Sadowski > wrote: > > > > And one more thing. Do you think we need to say something about > Fedora > > > > Project, its goals, philosophy etc.? If yes, I could do it so :) > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Pawel > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > Gerold Kassube > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards red Nayyar Ahmad wrote: > > > On Nov 28, 2007 8:45 PM, Gerold Kassube > wrote: > > -1 > > because of: > > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > > Von: Pascal Bleser > > > Antwort an: FOSDEM DevRooms < devrooms at fosdem.org > > > > An: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller >, Greg Casamento >, Helge Hess < > helge.hess at opengroupware.org >, > gerold at lugd.org > > Kopie: FOSDEM DevRooms > > > Betreff: [FOSDEM] No Devroom/stand for OpenGroupware+GNUstep :( > > Datum: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:19:40 +0100 > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi all > > > > I'm afraid that we decided not to give a Developer Room nor stand for > > Opengroupware+GNUstep at FOSDEM 2008. > > The problem, as every year, is that we receive many more requests than > > we have rooms and stands (and hosting in more rooms would be > pointless > > because we'd have over 300 talks, also making it a nightmare for us to > > organize and manage during the week-end). Because of that, we have to > > pick, subjectively. > > > > Hoping to see you at FOSDEM 2008 nevertheless, and thanks for your > > interest in the event. > > > > With kind regards, > > - -- > > -o) Pascal Bleser > > http://www.fosdem.org > > /\\ FOSDEM 2008 :: 23 + 24 February 2008 in Brussels > > _\_v Free and Opensource Software Developers European Meeting > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > Second, we have (if we really have ; Please Frederic ask for > confirmation) a shared room together with the CentOS guys. And > unfortunately I personaly believe such a FUDCon will not have such > an access as we appreciate to have .. > > > Yeah, I myself feel that having a FUDCon at a shared room with Centos > will not make an impression as it will give a hint to people about > Fedora's unwanted affiliation with Centos, although we (Fedora) d'nt > have any issue with sharing the room, but FUDCon has some meaning for > us, we should try to avoid such Mix-up, that makes people confused about > Fedora. > > -1 > > cheers > > > > Maybe, you decide otherwise; but this are my thoughts about. > > Regards > > Gerold > > > > Am Mittwoch, den 28.11.2007, 17:26 +0100 schrieb Pawel Sadowski: > > On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 15:02 +0100, Frederic Hornain wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > >This is a great idea. > > > >+1 :) > > > Happy to hear that. > > > > > > > > > >I've got a question about accomodation at FOSDEM. Are we > planning to > > > >reserve some common hostel/hotel (although I'd prefer hostel > because of > > > >costs)? I think it'd make an eventual FUDCon easier and make the > > > >integration easier :) > > > > > > No plan have been done for that topic. > > > However, it could be interesting to have feed back from fedora > people > > > who came last year. > > > > I was there this year and there was no common accomodation. I was > also > > on LinuxTag 2007 and we had an organized accomodation IMHO it was much > > better option :) > > > > > >Do you think we need to say something about Fedora Project, its > > > >goals, philosophy etc.? If yes, I could do it so :) > > > No defined yet. But if you want to register as speaker, feel > free to do it. > > > > Ok, I'll register myself as a speaker when there'll be an opinion we > > need to say something about the Fedora Project in general. I'm > waiting > > to hear opinions from the rest of ambassadors. > > > > > Kind regards > > > Fred > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 3:35 PM, Pawel Sadowski > > wrote: > > > > And one more thing. Do you think we need to say something > about Fedora > > > > Project, its goals, philosophy etc.? If yes, I could do it so :) > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Pawel > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > Gerold Kassube < gerold at lugd.org > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Nayyar Ahmad > RHCE (ID:804006858622745) > Skype: nayyares > Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 251 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From agk at redhat.com Thu Nov 29 03:17:10 2007 From: agk at redhat.com (Alasdair G Kergon) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:17:10 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] FUDCON at FOSDEM 2008 In-Reply-To: <20071128191509.GA6634@agk.fab.redhat.com> References: <3161376e0711280123n60ea2f07h2e62c1c5bfef869@mail.gmail.com> <1196260545.10891.28.camel@redhat> <3161376e0711280602m2c6787bchcaedd280ad0eb5b4@mail.gmail.com> <1196267163.10891.39.camel@redhat> <1196275501.3637.9.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <20071128191509.GA6634@agk.fab.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20071129031710.GB6634@agk.fab.redhat.com> We've also been allocated a Fedora+JBoss stand (2 tables - on upper level I think). CentOS also has 2 tables (not adjacent to us - on other level). The devroom is H1309 - medium-sized (150) - larger than before for us. JBoss has a devroom in the AW building (capacity 74) for Sunday afternoon only. (All info is of course not final and could still get changed.) Alasdair -- agk at redhat.com From kanarip at kanarip.com Wed Nov 28 14:32:22 2007 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:32:22 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FUDCON at FOSDEM 2008 In-Reply-To: <3161376e0711280123n60ea2f07h2e62c1c5bfef869@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0711280123n60ea2f07h2e62c1c5bfef869@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <474D7BF6.607@kanarip.com> Frederic Hornain wrote: > Dear * > > What do you think about a FUDCON at FOSDEM 2008 ? > Hi Frederic, During the Fedora Ambassadors Day in Basel this weekend, the Fedora Ambassadors have set LinuxTag 2008 to be the 'primary' event of 2008 so that would be the ideal event and location to have a FUDCon. I'm not sure having another FUDCon on FOSDEM would be a very good idea as we intended to invite everyone to one 'primary' event so that it becomes a real gathering of Fedora people, with a big FUDCon and lots of fun. I'm not opposed to having a FUDCon at FOSDEM also though, we just made this consideration earlier this week ;-) Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen From kanarip at kanarip.com Wed Nov 28 11:29:20 2007 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:29:20 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FUDCON at FOSDEM 2008 In-Reply-To: <3161376e0711280123n60ea2f07h2e62c1c5bfef869@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0711280123n60ea2f07h2e62c1c5bfef869@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <474D5110.5070409@kanarip.com> Frederic Hornain wrote: > Dear * > > What do you think about a FUDCON at FOSDEM 2008 ? > Hi Frederic, During the Fedora Ambassadors Day in Basel this weekend, the Fedora Ambassadors have set LinuxTag 2008 to be the 'primary' event of 2008 so that would be the ideal location to have a FUDCon. I'm not sure having a FUDCon on FOSDEM also would be a very good idea as the iidea of having a 'primary' event was to attract as many Fedora people to that one event. Let me know what you think. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Thu Nov 29 10:04:46 2007 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:04:46 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FUDCON at FOSDEM 2008 In-Reply-To: <474D7BF6.607@kanarip.com> References: <3161376e0711280123n60ea2f07h2e62c1c5bfef869@mail.gmail.com> <474D7BF6.607@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <1196330687.2926.6.camel@redhat> On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 15:32 +0100, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Frederic Hornain wrote: > > Dear * > > > > What do you think about a FUDCON at FOSDEM 2008 ? > > > > Hi Frederic, > > During the Fedora Ambassadors Day in Basel this weekend, the Fedora > Ambassadors have set LinuxTag 2008 to be the 'primary' event of 2008 so > that would be the ideal event and location to have a FUDCon. I'm not > sure having another FUDCon on FOSDEM would be a very good idea as we > intended to invite everyone to one 'primary' event so that it becomes a > real gathering of Fedora people, with a big FUDCon and lots of fun. If so, I'm oppositive to having a FUDCon during FOSDEM. Indeed, LinuxTag will be much more better occassion for doing that :) Heh, it's still 7 months, I'm waiting with a hankering... But, I think some meeting on friday in Brussels is a good solution ;) > I'm not opposed to having a FUDCon at FOSDEM also though, we just made > this consideration earlier this week ;-) Cheers, Pawel From fhornain at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 09:35:12 2007 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:35:12 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FUDCON at FOSDEM 2008 In-Reply-To: <1196330687.2926.6.camel@redhat> References: <3161376e0711280123n60ea2f07h2e62c1c5bfef869@mail.gmail.com> <474D7BF6.607@kanarip.com> <1196330687.2926.6.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <3161376e0711290135j37467cbaye446874f6d002852@mail.gmail.com> Hi, As Alasdair G Kergon wrote - see below -, we have effectively two tables (Fedora/Jboss) and two development rooms (one for Centos/Fedora (150) and one for Jboss(74)) and two tables(Fedora/Jboss). >We've also been allocated a Fedora+JBoss stand (2 tables - on upper >level I think). CentOS also has 2 tables (not adjacent to us - on other >level). The devroom is H1309 - medium-sized (150) - larger than before >for us. JBoss has a devroom in the AW building (capacity 74) for Sunday >afternoon only. >(All info is of course not final and could still get changed.) You can also have a look at the following URL for more fresh details. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008 Kind Regards Fred On Nov 29, 2007 11:04 AM, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 15:32 +0100, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > > Frederic Hornain wrote: > > > Dear * > > > > > > What do you think about a FUDCON at FOSDEM 2008 ? > > > > > > > Hi Frederic, > > > > During the Fedora Ambassadors Day in Basel this weekend, the Fedora > > Ambassadors have set LinuxTag 2008 to be the 'primary' event of 2008 so > > that would be the ideal event and location to have a FUDCon. I'm not > > sure having another FUDCon on FOSDEM would be a very good idea as we > > intended to invite everyone to one 'primary' event so that it becomes a > > real gathering of Fedora people, with a big FUDCon and lots of fun. > > If so, I'm oppositive to having a FUDCon during FOSDEM. Indeed, LinuxTag > will be much more better occassion for doing that :) Heh, it's still 7 > months, I'm waiting with a hankering... But, I think some meeting on > friday in Brussels is a good solution ;) > > > I'm not opposed to having a FUDCon at FOSDEM also though, we just made > > this consideration earlier this week ;-) > > Cheers, > Pawel > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Thu Nov 29 11:09:28 2007 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:09:28 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Call for Participation LINUXTAG 2008 / Preperation Team In-Reply-To: <1196276081.3637.15.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> References: <1196276081.3637.15.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: <1196334568.2926.16.camel@redhat> On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 19:54 +0100, Gerold Kassube wrote: > CALL for participation in the Preperation Team for LINUXTAG 2008 > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Dear * > > if you're willing to help on Linuxtag in the preperation Team, please > send me your note as soon as possible. > The first meeting will be held in december 2007 somewhere central > (around me +/- 200 km). Hi Gerold, I'd like to help, but I don't think I'll be able to participate the meetings (quite far away). I could bring some gadgets (I mean T-shirts with Fedora logo). You can see how they look here: http://mcgiwer.wordpress.com/2007/09/22/software-freedom-day-2007/polish-fedora-ambassadors/. What else I can do is taking care of press releases in Poland (also on Internet portals). And I still have some Fedora stickers and posters (although I think the posters can be sold out on the incoming FOD in Poland (I think somewhere about march)). Will I be usable? :) Regards, Pawel > Your help is much apreciated! > > > > > WER hilft mit den LINUXTAG 2008 vorzubereiten? > ---------------------------------------------- > > Hallo * > > wer hat Interesse daran, bei den Vorbereitungen des Linuxtag 2008 > mitzuhelfen? Bitte melde Dich umgehend bei mir! > Das erste Treffen wird bereits im Dezember 2007 irgendwo zentral (rund > um meinen Wohnort +/- 200 km) stattfinden. > > DEINE Hilfe wird ben?tigt! > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From tatadbb at gmail.com Thu Nov 29 11:53:16 2007 From: tatadbb at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:53:16 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Call for Participation LINUXTAG 2008 / Preperation Team In-Reply-To: <1196334568.2926.16.camel@redhat> References: <1196276081.3637.15.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <1196334568.2926.16.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <27a6293b0711290353h30225079t3a3cd96a68f56a76@mail.gmail.com> o my god!!!! those are cool! We made some t-shirts too, but white... You can see them here: http://wiki.fedora-ve.org/Fotos/Iseit2007?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=00014.jpg http://wiki.fedora-ve.org/Fotos/Iseit2007?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=00008.jpg 2007/11/29, Pawel Sadowski : > > On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 19:54 +0100, Gerold Kassube wrote: > > CALL for participation in the Preperation Team for LINUXTAG 2008 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Dear * > > > > if you're willing to help on Linuxtag in the preperation Team, please > > send me your note as soon as possible. > > The first meeting will be held in december 2007 somewhere central > > (around me +/- 200 km). > > Hi Gerold, > > I'd like to help, but I don't think I'll be able to participate the > meetings (quite far away). I could bring some gadgets (I mean T-shirts > with Fedora logo). You can see how they look here: > > http://mcgiwer.wordpress.com/2007/09/22/software-freedom-day-2007/polish-fedora-ambassadors/. > What else I can do is taking care of press releases in Poland (also on > Internet portals). And I still have some Fedora stickers and posters > (although I think the posters can be sold out on the incoming FOD in Poland > (I think somewhere about march)). Will I be usable? :) > > Regards, > Pawel > > > Your help is much apreciated! > > > > > > > > > > WER hilft mit den LINUXTAG 2008 vorzubereiten? > > ---------------------------------------------- > > > > Hallo * > > > > wer hat Interesse daran, bei den Vorbereitungen des Linuxtag 2008 > > mitzuhelfen? Bitte melde Dich umgehend bei mir! > > Das erste Treffen wird bereits im Dezember 2007 irgendwo zentral (rund > > um meinen Wohnort +/- 200 km) stattfinden. > > > > DEINE Hilfe wird ben?tigt! > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 30 10:07:54 2007 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:07:54 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Call for Participation LINUXTAG 2008 / Preperation Team In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0711290353h30225079t3a3cd96a68f56a76@mail.gmail.com> References: <1196276081.3637.15.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> <1196334568.2926.16.camel@redhat> <27a6293b0711290353h30225079t3a3cd96a68f56a76@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1196417275.3097.9.camel@redhat> Your polos are also nice :) Regards, Pawel On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 07:53 -0400, Mar?a Leandro wrote: > o my god!!!! those are cool! > > We made some t-shirts too, but white... > > You can see them here: > > http://wiki.fedora-ve.org/Fotos/Iseit2007?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=00014.jpg > http://wiki.fedora-ve.org/Fotos/Iseit2007?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=00008.jpg > > > > > > 2007/11/29, Pawel Sadowski : > On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 19:54 +0100, Gerold Kassube wrote: > > CALL for participation in the Preperation Team for LINUXTAG > 2008 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Dear * > > > > if you're willing to help on Linuxtag in the preperation > Team, please > > send me your note as soon as possible. > > The first meeting will be held in december 2007 somewhere > central > > (around me +/- 200 km). > > Hi Gerold, > > I'd like to help, but I don't think I'll be able to > participate the > meetings (quite far away). I could bring some gadgets (I mean > T-shirts > with Fedora logo). You can see how they look here: > http://mcgiwer.wordpress.com/2007/09/22/software-freedom-day-2007/polish-fedora-ambassadors/. What else I can do is taking care of press releases in Poland (also on Internet portals). And I still have some Fedora stickers and posters (although I think the posters can be sold out on the incoming FOD in Poland (I think somewhere about march)). Will I be usable? :) > > Regards, > Pawel > > > Your help is much apreciated! > > > > > > > > > > WER hilft mit den LINUXTAG 2008 vorzubereiten? > > ---------------------------------------------- > > > > Hallo * > > > > wer hat Interesse daran, bei den Vorbereitungen des Linuxtag > 2008 > > mitzuhelfen? Bitte melde Dich umgehend bei mir! > > Das erste Treffen wird bereits im Dezember 2007 irgendwo > zentral (rund > > um meinen Wohnort +/- 200 km) stattfinden. > > > > DEINE Hilfe wird ben?tigt! > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.iseit.net > http://www.latinux.org > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 30 10:13:44 2007 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:13:44 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Topic proposal for FOSDEM Message-ID: <1196417624.3097.13.camel@redhat> Hi, Do you think we need to say something about the Fedora Project in general? I mean its goals, philosophy etc. If so, I could give a speech on this topic. Say your opinion about it. Regards, Pawel From bhanupatial at yahoo.com Fri Nov 30 09:37:46 2007 From: bhanupatial at yahoo.com (Bhanu Patial) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:07:46 +0530 (IST) Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSS.IN 2007 Bangalore Message-ID: <780605.37296.qm@web94203.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Hello All, I have joined as FA recently form Bangalore India. FOSS.IN will start on 4th Dec 2007 to 8th Dec 2007. As a newbie I too can contribute in co-ordinating events. Regards, Bhanu Patial bhanupat at fedoraproject.org Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at lovesunix.net Fri Nov 30 09:53:26 2007 From: david at lovesunix.net (David Nielsen) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:53:26 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Topic proposal for FOSDEM In-Reply-To: <1196417624.3097.13.camel@redhat> References: <1196417624.3097.13.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <1196416406.2724.6.camel@dawkins> fre, 30 11 2007 kl. 11:13 +0100, skrev Pawel Sadowski: > Hi, > > Do you think we need to say something about the Fedora Project in > general? I mean its goals, philosophy etc. If so, I could give a speech > on this topic. Say your opinion about it. Driving technical innovation - look at all that's coming from the Red Hat/Fedora front. HAL, NetworkManager, PolicyKit, ConsoleKit, The Online Desktop. We are driving innovation and I don't think there is enough focus on that. Freedom "just" happens to be the only way to get there, I love the Free Software ideals as much as the next guy but I think we Fedorians are way to shy about yelling loudly about the innovation we do. Besides at FOSDEM 99.999% already get that aspect of Fedora, so tell them what freedom buys us. A welcoming and always expanding community, high technical standards and innovation. - David -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dette er en digitalt underskrevet brevdel URL: From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Fri Nov 30 09:53:45 2007 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:23:45 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSS.IN 2007 Bangalore In-Reply-To: <780605.37296.qm@web94203.mail.in2.yahoo.com> References: <780605.37296.qm@web94203.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <474FDDA9.1040407@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Bhanu Patial wrote: > I have joined as FA recently form Bangalore India. > FOSS.IN will start on 4th Dec 2007 to 8th Dec 2007. > As a newbie I too can contribute in co-ordinating events. Check the schedules for foss.in and register as a delegate, I am sure the Fedora Project Day folks can use a pair of helping hands :) :sankarshan - -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHT92pXQZpNTcrCzMRAk/VAJ9Pn/8pxvX71BIUlliNg/kkkZpwQQCdGl5D o3yqVoFpdDjxO/Ke7q7d2+E= =zniG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Nov 30 19:32:23 2007 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:32:23 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Topic proposal for FOSDEM In-Reply-To: <1196416406.2724.6.camel@dawkins> References: <1196417624.3097.13.camel@redhat> <1196416406.2724.6.camel@dawkins> Message-ID: You may also make a comparison between past FOSDEMs (and other events) and users' feedbacks (in such ones). That's the fastest and most productive way to define a program for the future event. Best regards Francesco Ugolini 2007/11/30, David Nielsen : > > > fre, 30 11 2007 kl. 11:13 +0100, skrev Pawel Sadowski: > > Hi, > > > > Do you think we need to say something about the Fedora Project in > > general? I mean its goals, philosophy etc. If so, I could give a speech > > on this topic. Say your opinion about it. > > Driving technical innovation - look at all that's coming from the Red > Hat/Fedora front. HAL, NetworkManager, PolicyKit, ConsoleKit, The Online > Desktop. We are driving innovation and I don't think there is enough > focus on that. Freedom "just" happens to be the only way to get there, I > love the Free Software ideals as much as the next guy but I think we > Fedorians are way to shy about yelling loudly about the innovation we > do. Besides at FOSDEM 99.999% already get that aspect of Fedora, so tell > them what freedom buys us. A welcoming and always expanding community, > high technical standards and innovation. > > - David > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pablo.barrera at proyectofedora.org Fri Nov 30 20:03:45 2007 From: pablo.barrera at proyectofedora.org (Pablo Barrera) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:03:45 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Nominations for FAmSCo election In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1196453025.2403.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi all, Yes, i some point I feel a little bit sad, cause theres no interest of ambassadors on be part of the process of the seats. Anyway, I think this is a chance to "make the things happens" it means, in spite of the low quantity of Ambassadors, seems that in next FAMSCO periodo, we need to check, if we are expressing in the right way the demands of Fedora Community. Non interest, represents that, I some point FAMSCO is not a tool for Ambassadors. Remember: Community Rules, and the silence or the low enthusiasm of the voting (and more important candidate vacancy) are telling us something: Make Famsco a "service tool" for our project. This is not a crisis, this is an oportunity, to "stop the ball" and think, what things we must change, to improve the community progress in all areas. We the ambassadors really needs and what Fedora can do for this community. Just two examples: Next week will be a FLOSS event in Colombia. We need to found the Fedora Project in Colombia. But organizations has not the money, to make Possible that i can go to help colombia Ambassador to work with strategies, giving some experience feedback of argentinian activities, and things like that. FAMSCO knows it?, no....why?, U can say that nobody talks about it, but...someone ask if we need something, above from FOSDEM?....or Linux Tag?.... The other example: Tunusia people are growing with a lot of effort...someone think if Tunisia people needs more than a DVD Budget?....how many people are ready to travel to Fosdem, and how many people are ready to travel to Tunisia, to help Africa to grow in FLOSS model?...... This are the reasons, why, we dont have more candidates. We dont have more candidates because in some point, of all of us are too much busy with personal work or some of us, dont think useful FAMSCO. I believe Franceso (if someone think That im not democratic ;) ) that this time is more than a election. Its time to "revisoring" FAMSCO, to make more important than yesterday, and turn the FAMSCO into a tool for Ambassadors. 100% Service. Ill hope this message, can get a positive effect and a lot of ambassadors go to be part of candidates. This will mean that the messages comes to the mind :). Finishing this post, not all is about Famsco. Like ambassadors we need to leave fall our head over the shoulders of FAMSCO too....we must make more important in our Ambassadors life the role of FAMSCO. Trust means, ask, ask, make questions, more than choose a seat one time per year. Choose seats must be a happy momento, to choose the "tools" (yes...people), to make an evolution on each cycle of FAMSCO. Not all the FLOSS and organizations around the world, has this fantastic tool like FAMSCO. We must make it better everyday.... Code evolves....people too.... Well.....its time to recieve more candidates from now ;-) Best regards Pablo Barrera El dom, 02-12-2007 a las 19:36 +0100, Francesco Ugolini escribi?: > I want to remember all Fedora Ambassadors that today is the last day > to present their nomination. > > I want also you to remember a part of the elections rule: > > "In order to hold an election a minimum number of candidates are > necessary. This will be the number of open seats + 25%. If there are 7 > seats available, there will need to be at least 9 candidates. If not > enough candidates have signed up by the deadline, the election will be > held back by one week for more candidates to be nominated. If there > are still not enough candidates, the candidates who are present will > be voted upon (or merely confirmed if there are less candidates than > open seats.)" > > So actually the candidates are 5, and the total seats are 7 (and it > implies that candidates must be 9). > > I invite everyone who want to nominate to make this today. > > If tomorrow the minimum number of candidate will not fill, the > nomination period will be held back by one week. > > Best regards > > Francesco Ugolini > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list