[Ambassadors] Ambassadors Meeting EMEA - IRC Log 2008-04-16

[Fabian Affolter]

Fabian Affolter wrote:
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> <fabian_a> Welcome everybody.  Let's have the Fedora Ambassadors Meeting 
> EMEA
> <spevack> hi fabian
> <spevack> MaxSpevack is here, obviously
> <merouen> hi evrybody
> * fabian_a looking around to find some European ambassadors
> * red_alert waves
> * glezos says hi
> <fabian_a> ping fcrippa, fugolini, kanarip, kital
> <spevack> kanarip, kital, ping
> <fugolini> i'm here
> * fcrippa says hello to all!
> <fcrippa> pong
> * lfoppiano is ready too :)
> * kanarip ping
> <kital> pong
> <kanarip> oops, pong i meant
> <fabian_a> ok guys, please state your wiki name (aka roll call)
> <kital> JoergSimon
> <red_alert> SandroMathys
> <fugolini> FrancescoUgolini
> <fabian_a> for the record :-)
> <glezos> DimitrisGlezos
> <kanarip> JeroenVanMeeuwen
> <fabian_a> FabianAffolter
> <fcrippa> FrancescoCrippa
> <lfoppiano> LucaFoppiano
> <viking-ice> JohannBenediktGudmundsson
> <merouen> BalloutMerouen
> <spevack> MaxSpevack
> <fabian_a> Just a reminder. We'll still follow our meeting protocol to 
> make this meeting quick and efficient. 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol
> <fabian_a> Now, please open our meeting page at 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-04-16 for the 
> agenda
> <merouen> ?
> <fabian_a> merouen,
> <merouen> Hello all,  i am new here
> <merouen> eof
> <viking-ice> as am I..
> <fabian_a> welcome to your first meeting
> <viking-ice> thanks..
> <viking-ice> glad to be here
> <fabian_a> we'll start with the report current status of FAmSCo
> <fabian_a> Release events
> <fabian_a> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/ReleaseEvents
> <fugolini> !
> <fabian_a> fugolini,
> <fugolini> Hi, i'm here today to talk about this important issue
> <fugolini> i want to invite everyone to make something for the F9 
> release event
> <fugolini> *release
> <fugolini> just take a look at this mail from Jeffrey: 
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-April/msg00043.html 
> 
> <fugolini> Release Events are important because they are the final piece of
> <fugolini> a long and hard development process
> <fugolini> I know this year we announced it late but i hope you could 
> create something
> <fugolini> that's all
> <fugolini> Talk with the other EMEA ambassadors and try to organize all 
> together
> <fugolini> thank you
> <fugolini> eof
> <fabian_a> thanks, fugolini
> <fabian_a> Clean-up the Ambassadors parts on the wiki
> <fabian_a> We deleted a lot of obsolete pages but there are still many 
> pages left.  This pages needs some work on them.
> <fabian_a> Check 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/CleanUpPages 
> if you are able to help us improve our part in the fedora wiki
> <fabian_a> BTW, soon we will migrate to mediawiki.  The test instance is 
> available at https://publictest1.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Main_Page
> <spevack> Impact of the Migration on Ambassadors should be minimal
> <fabian_a> If you have experience with mediawiki, especially with the 
> migration from moinmoin to mediawiki, Fedora Infrastructure will be very 
> pleasant to hear from you
> <fugolini> !
> <fabian_a> fugolini,
> <fugolini> i forget to send the email to Ambs list
> <fugolini> i just send a copy of the announcement in Famsco list, i will 
> do it now!
> <fugolini> eof
> <GeroldKa> !
> <fabian_a> GeroldKa,
> <GeroldKa> sorry for beeing late, many, many problems by my primary duty
> <GeroldKa> my employer
> <GeroldKa> eof
> <diaa> !
> <fabian_a> diaa,
> <diaa> Hi, I have missed the wiki name part, my wiki name is DiaaRadwan.
> <spevack> GeroldKa: it's no problem, everyone here except for me is a 
> volunteer, and we all understand that your primary job has many 
> important commitments
> <diaa> we will have fedora day on one of the largest universities on Egypt.
> <diaa> sorry for the overlap :)
> <spevack> diaa: did you get the stuff out of Customs?
> <diaa> No, hopefully I will get it tomorrow.
> <fabian_a> something else before we move on
> <spevack> will they require you to pay a lot of money?
> * spevack sent Diaa a bunch of Swag to support Fedora Day in Egypt
> <fabian_a> If you would like to have a Fedora Ambassador Polo Shirt and 
> you will attend LinuxTag.
> <diaa> I think it is not related to money, I think it's about content. 
> they have to look on cds.
> <spevack> diaa: they will not find anything too exciting :)... ok, sorry 
> to interrupt you fabian_a, go ahead
> <diaa> fabian_a: I think it will be hard to get the polo shirt.
> <fabian_a> You have 2 days left to place your order at 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/PoloShirt
> <fabian_a> next topic...
> <fabian_a> Report current status of Ambassadors Membership
> <diaa> I want to give you outline on the sessions
> <diaa> First session will be FOSS and history of GNU/Linux, fedora, 
> benefits and how to contribute. second one would be either preparing 
> development environment on fedora based server or shell scripting session.
> <diaa> is there any ideas?
> <diaa> EOF
> <fabian_a> events are on your list, later
> <fabian_a> Ambassadors Membership
> <fabian_a> As of 2008-04-14, 352 Ambassadors have been verified (signed 
> CLA and joined 'ambassadors' group)
> <fabian_a> The Ambassadors statistics page ( 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Statistics ) will be updated 
> soon with more accurate numbers :-).
> <fabian_a> So far I have no time to do it.
> <fabian_a> Everybody, please check your personal wiki page if all data 
> are up-to-date.
> <fabian_a> We have several Ambassadors with invalid email addresses and 
> some who still have there name.surname at fedoraproject.org addresses on 
> the wiki.
> <fabian_a> Please verifiy also if your CategoryAmbassadors(+Country) 
> entry is still right (with my new script I'm working with this 
> information).
> <fabian_a> BTW, I'm looking for some help to improve this script.
> <fabian_a> I will use it as long that we have no better option to 
> generate some statistics through FAS2
> <fabian_a> any input about that?
> <fcrippa> !
> <fabian_a> fcrippa,
> <fcrippa> fabian, I've made some improvements to "stats" script
> <fcrippa> it runs also for "EditGroup" page
> <fcrippa> ..or other "group" pages
> <fabian_a> thanks fcrippa, for this details
> <fcrippa> and I've also made a small project based on turbogear to put 
> charts online automatically
> <fcrippa> if there is some one interesting to continue develop (with me, 
> and - I hope- Fabian), let' go :-)
> <fcrippa> (I'll put code online soon)
> <fcrippa> eof
> <fabian_a> i guess that we are done with this for today, next events
> <fabian_a> Report current status of Fedora Events (passed & upcoming)
> <fabian_a> Please open Fedora Events 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents
> <fabian_a> we will start with the past events
> <fabian_a> as far as I remember...OpenExpo
> <fabian_a> Check the collection 
> http://fabaff.blogspot.com/2008/03/openexpo-2008-berne-collection.html 
> for details about this event
> <fabian_a> FOSSComm Greece
> <fabian_a> glezos?
> * fugolini has to leave
> <glezos> yup
> <fugolini> see ya
> <glezos> the event was great, my talk attracted a lot of people
> <glezos> mostly FOSS contributors, not new users
> <glezos> we handed out 200 CDs sent by RHT in Germany.
> <glezos> and recruited 2 Google Summer of Codes for L10n/Transifex.
> <glezos> very satisfied.
> <glezos> eof
> <fabian_a> thanks, glezos
> <fabian_a> about Notacon is a report available too -> 
> http://axelilly.wordpress.com/2008/04/09/event-report-fedora-at-notacon-5/
> <glezos> blog post in Greek: 
> http://dimitris.glezos.com/weblog/2008/03/26/fosscomm-recap
> <glezos> and album: 
> http://dimitris.glezos.com/photos/various/fosscomm08/ (now I'm EOF, 
> honestly.)
> <fabian_a> glezos, most people in Europe can speak Greek fluently ;-)
> <fabian_a> Future events
> <glezos> they do?!
> <fabian_a> Grazer Linuxtage
> <fabian_a> I guess that there is no attendance
> <fabian_a> Fedora day, Cairo
> <fabian_a> diaa?
> <diaa> Max shipped me swag, I didn't get them yet it's on the customs, 
> hopefully I will get it tomorrow.
> <spevack> !
> <spevack> (after diaa is finished)
> <diaa> This the first event I co-organize as fedora ambassador. First 
> session will be FOSS and history of GNU/Linux, fedora, benefits and how 
> to contribute. second one would be either preparing development 
> environment on fedora based server or shell scripting session.
> <diaa> the expected attendees are 90 on the first one and 40 on the second.
> <diaa> unfortunately, the event is before the release of 9.
> <diaa> any ideas ? ,EOF
> <fabian_a> anybody? otherwise spevack
> <spevack> diaa: I will send you a presentation that serves as a great 
> "introduction to fedora"
> <spevack> diaa: and you can adapt or change it for any needs you like.
> <spevack> fabian_a: I wanted to talk about the FedoraEvents page a 
> little bit
> <spevack> There are 3 events currently listed for EMEA with no owner
> <fabian_a> spevack, sure
> <lfoppiano> !
> <spevack> Grazer LinuxTag
> <spevack> Linuxdays in Geneva
> <spevack> and OpenSource Expo
> <fabian_a> Linuxdays Geneve, very short: no attendance
> <spevack> ok, we can remove that one
> <spevack> what about the other two?  Either way is fine, I just am 
> curious to know.
> <kital> !
> <fabian_a> kital,
> <spevack> ! (one more thing for later)
> <GeroldKa> !
> <kital> OpenSource Expo is not far for me but it is just before linuxtag
> <spevack> My feeling is that OpenSource expo is not important with 
> LinuxTag just a few days later
> <spevack> we should focus all our effort on LinuxTag
> <kital> ok
> <kital> eof
> <fabian_a> spevack, then GeroldKa
> <lfoppiano> !
> <spevack> i will be quick, then lfoppiano and GeroldKa
> <spevack> The call for papers for Froscon is open
> <spevack> http://www.froscon.de/en/program/call-for-papers.html
> <spevack> I am going to submit a talk
> <spevack> and plan to attend the show, if it is accepted
> <spevack> EOF
> <GeroldKa> imho we're to less Ambassadors to handle every event and we 
> have to less money for covering all this things and another issue is 
> that we have no support by Red Hat right now, but for sure ...
> <lfoppiano> !
> <GeroldKa> Max if you're here more things will be also easier for us to 
> handle and cover
> <GeroldKa> and btw.
> <kanarip> !
> <GeroldKa> Froscon is an event which we cover (not myself because it is 
> always in my holidays) mostly
> <GeroldKa> they will be happy to have your talk, for sure
> <GeroldKa> eof
> <fabian_a> lfoppiano, sorry now it's your turn, then kanarip
> <lfoppiano> just 2 word about italian events
> <lfoppiano> *words
> <lfoppiano> it will be saturdary, our best news is first automatic 
> fedora live usb key
> <lfoppiano> creatior
> <spevack> GeroldKa: we have more support now more than ever, and it will 
> be my job to give EMEA the proper support that it needs.  My date for 
> moving to Europe is May 19th. :)
> <lfoppiano> we will do a talk on fedora community (speaker will be fcrippa)
> <lfoppiano> and we expect to meet more than 100 people (I hope)
> <fabian_a> lfoppiano is talking about liberaMENTE
> <lfoppiano> oh, yes sorry
> <lfoppiano> I forgot to tell you
> <lfoppiano> (I'm little scared, it's my first ambassador meeeting:P)
> <spevack> i'm sure you will be great :)
> <lfoppiano> thanks :) if you have some question...or suggestion ;-)
> * fcrippa is sure too
> <lfoppiano> eof
> <fabian_a> kanarip,
> <kanarip> spevack, I'll work some more on the abstract I'm submitting 
> for LinuxTag, and maybe submit the same talk for FrOSCon ;-)
> <kanarip> EOF
> <fabian_a> ok, now LinuxTag Berlin
> <fabian_a> We have 21 attendees and a place to sleep.  But there is 
> still a lot of work left.
> <GeroldKa> !
> <spevack> kanarip: that's my plan too :)
> <fabian_a> We are "hiring" people for the booth setup : Add yourself to 
> the list 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/BoothSetup
> <fabian_a> GeroldKa,
> <GeroldKa> booth-size
> <GeroldKa> at the moment I got a call and the information that we will 
> get 16 sqm and because of Red Hat pays a little bit, our booth will be 
> raised up to max. 20 sqm.
> <GeroldKa> I will have a meting with the Linuxtag projects board on 
> 2008-04-26 (also) to discuss that point. But there are only 450 sqm for 
> more than 75 free projects and we will get one of the biggest size :-(
> <GeroldKa> Because of that issue I decided to cancel the troubleshooting 
> contest (because he's not ready right now) and we try to keep our focus 
> on the gadget with "get your USB stick filled here"
> <GeroldKa> FUDCon
> <GeroldKa> I have still no answer from Jens working on that issue but 
> heared from Florian that he's working on that issue; late but he seems 
> working on that
> <GeroldKa>  and he will give us an smaller overview after me :-)
> <GeroldKa> SWAG
> <GeroldKa> - we found a place where to ship our goods from elsewhere in 
> this world
> <GeroldKa> - we order the Fedora Ambassadors Polo next week on Tuesday 
> and the other things in a gremium of JoergSimon, SandroMathys, 
> FabianAffolter and me!
> <GeroldKa> more can be seen in the wiki at 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008
> <rivrandir> !
> <GeroldKa> eof
> <kanarip> spevack, shartsuiker and myself will be arriving 15-16 PM 
> (-ish), that's too late for the booth setup i presume?
> <fabian_a> rivrandir,
> <rivrandir> I'm now working at the Fudcon. I had no time to do it 
> earlier.  We still need more talks.
> <fabian_a> kanarip, that's too late.  Go directly to the hotel bar and 
> drink some beer
> <kanarip> ;-)
> <glezos> !
> <kital> ?
> <rivrandir> I'm looking for some more speaker, see mail at mailinglist.
> <rivrandir> EOF
> <fabian_a> thanks, rivrandir
> <fabian_a> glezos,
> <glezos> I'd like to kindly request for consideration of common 
> activities of us folks as well who won't be staying at the hotel. :-)
> <glezos> ie. go-outs, meetings/discussions, dinners, etc, as well as for 
> needed tasks, etc.
> <GeroldKa> ! (directly to glezos)
> <glezos> collecting mobile phone numbers will probably help in this aspect
> <glezos> eof.
> <fabian_a> GeroldKa first, then kital
> <GeroldKa> you're at the moment the only person who'll not stay with us 
> in the same hotel, but no fear we will inform you as well and keep you 
> in "our family"
> <GeroldKa> eof
> <kanarip> glezos, /me is +31642801403
> <kanarip> there you go, that's solved
> <kanarip> ;-)
> <fabian_a> kital,
> <kital> rivrandir there are 7 speakers on how many slots we have?
> <GeroldKa> seven :-)
> <rivrandir> kital: 7 when did you count?
> <kital> on wiki
> <kital> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConLinuxTag2008
> <kital> not filled in the slots
> <kital> but with dimitriz i count 7
> <kital> eof
> <rivrandir> Yes, but I did not yet got confirmation from Thibault. and 
> two speaker cancelt today :-(
> <rivrandir> of
> <rivrandir> eof
> <kital> i can confirm thibault
> <kital> eof
> <rivrandir> kital: OK, noted
> <GeroldKa> !
> <fabian_a> anything else about LinuxTag, FUDCon at LinuxTag, or the FAD 
> before LinuxTag?
> <fabian_a> GeroldKa,
> <GeroldKa> rivrandir, be aware that these things MUST be filled asap in 
> the vcc of Linuxtag
> <GeroldKa> or we get the same "shit" as last year
> <rivrandir> GeroldKa: I know
> <GeroldKa> NO Fedora related speaker in the official paperwork
> <GeroldKa> eof
> <rivrandir> !
> <fabian_a> rivrandir,
> <rivrandir> I'm looking especially for a speaker about FreeIPA or cobbler.
> <spevack> rivrandir: i might be able to give a talk about cobbler.. let 
> me talk to michael dehaan, who is the primary developer, and see if he 
> has some slides i can borrow
> <rivrandir> eof
> <fabian_a> Is there anyone who would like to discuss stuff about another 
> up-coming event ?
> <rivrandir> spevack: sounds good mail me please
> <fabian_a> Status of the NPO
> <GeroldKa> !
> <fabian_a> aka Fedora EMEA
> <fabian_a> GeroldKa,
> <GeroldKa> also waiting for official confirmation
> <GeroldKa> they register court complained a part
> <GeroldKa> the board decides and the next day it was there
> <GeroldKa> I believe the registration will be fullfilled within the next 
> days
> <GeroldKa> eof
> <fabian_a> thanks, GeroldKa
> <fabian_a> Now the floor is open...
> <fabian_a> Fedora Live stick creation, anything else about that issue?
> <kanarip> is it an issue?
> <GeroldKa> !
> <viking-ice> so far
> <fabian_a> GeroldKa,
> <viking-ice> tested it did not work
> <GeroldKa> who takes care of that point at Linuxtag?
> <kanarip> GeroldKa, we have an open floor ;-)
> <GeroldKa> blupp
> <viking-ice> have not heard anything from jeremy yet..
> <kanarip> i can
> <kanarip> and i'll order StefanHartsuiker to pay some attention to it as 
> well
> <kanarip> ;-)
> <kanarip> s/order/ask/
> <GeroldKa> ok
> <GeroldKa> but it's the same kanarip
> <GeroldKa> oh one important point for Linuxtag
> <kanarip> still the same kanarip, yeah
> <GeroldKa> we will have two female persons at the booth
> <fabian_a> I guess that we are done.  Any more questions or issues 
> before we close this meeting?
> <kanarip> rivrandir, what is the timeframe for a talk?
> <kanarip> an hour or so?
> <rivrandir> kanarip: 1 hour, aka 45Minutes talk plus 15 minutes QA
> <kanarip> right
> * kanarip continues to work on the abstract
> <rivrandir> kanarip: I only need 3-10 lines. For the FundCON
> <fabian_a> Fedora Ambassadors Meeting EMEA 2008-04-16 has been 
> adjourned. Next meeting in May 2008.
> <rivrandir> FudCon
> <kanarip> rivrandir, you'll get them while it is still Wednesday
> <kanarip> within 40 minutes, that is
> <merouen> ok , nice night everrybody
> <rivrandir> kanarip: Witch timezone?
> <kanarip> ours
> <fabian_a> Thanks to all attendees
> <rivrandir> kanarip: You don't know where I am! :-)
> <diaa> Thanks fabian_a
> <kanarip> rivrandir, in Germany
> <fabian_a> good night, good morning, or what ever...
> <rivrandir> Thanks fabian!
> <rivrandir> kanarip: OK, this week you are right :-)

sorry, wrong date in the subject