From mrtom at fedoraproject.org Sun Feb 3 10:27:13 2008 From: mrtom at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:27:13 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1830 #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20080203112713.5e8baf5a@annifrid.mrtomlinux> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2008-02-03 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (3 f?v.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'h?sitez pas ? la modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent int?ressants. Thomas Canniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The next opportunity to order Poloshirts is for Linuxtag08 Berlin - I will inform you in time :-) Cheers Joerg -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From pcalarco at nd.edu Sun Feb 3 20:27:15 2008 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Vincent Calarco) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:27:15 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassador Poloshirts In-Reply-To: <200802032047.26375.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200802032047.26375.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47A623A3.7080900@nd.edu> Hi Joerg -- Very nice indeed! What a great venture, Jeorg! I wonder if we could consider ordering these between events, for those of us who attend smaller events. Joerg, do we have multiple verified suppliers for these in different countries? I am especially interested in North America. I would like to order a couple for attending regional linux events where I am, but I can't forsee attending any of the larger European events, or even FUDCon Boston adjacent to the Red Hat Summit this summer. North and South American ambassadors, if you would be interested in ordering, perhaps we could discuss this at the next IRC meeting (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-02-04). I am willing to help coordinate this, if we need someone to take the lead. Thanks and very best, - pascal http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PascalCalarco JoergSimon wrote: > Hi, > > for Fosdem Attendees a new (mini?)charge of Ambassador Poloshirts is asked. > If you are a Ambassador and come to the Fosdem08 Brussels you can order. Maybe > one Ambassador of your Country attend here, then you should also order and > instruct him to bring and ship it if he/she is back. > We have to pay around 30? per shirt to the manufacturer - you reimburse me on > Fosdem in exchange for your PoloShirt(s) > Add you to the List http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/PoloShirt. > Sorry for the short timeframe. > > The next opportunity to order Poloshirts is for Linuxtag08 Berlin - I will > inform you in time :-) > > Cheers Joerg > From gerold at lugd.org Sun Feb 3 20:40:16 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:40:16 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassador Poloshirts In-Reply-To: <47A623A3.7080900@nd.edu> References: <200802032047.26375.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <47A623A3.7080900@nd.edu> Message-ID: <1202071216.4828.9.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Hi Pascal, Joerg created that Shirt approx. one year ago and we (who attend FOSDEM, Linuxtag and a bunch of other smaller event) decided that this Polo-Shirt *could* be a uniform-al Polo-Shirt for every Ambassador in the whole world. BUT, be careful, because it costs approx EUR 25 to produce ONE Shirt and if you're using a currency calculator there you can see, that it is for some areas in this world a lot of money (also in Europe) and ... the second point with the producing is, a private person (in that case Joerg or last time myself) have to pay in front for the order when we get the Shirts. The Shirt is produzed here in Germany at a special vendor who only sells and produces in Germany. So we have no problem to produce a bunch of this shirts, never mind; but we have to clear out, that we only order if we have the money to pay for; nor earlier. We like to offer the following: We create a time on which you have latest place your order (let`s say end of march this year) then we ask for a quote at the vendor; clear out the shipping costs from Germany to every place you guys want to have it and then we tell you the date until the money has to arrive ... If the money did not arrive at this time, we can't order for you because we can't pay with our private money and btw. this are AMBASSADOR Shirts; not for public :-) Hope this will help you Regards Gerold Am Sonntag, den 03.02.2008, 15:27 -0500 schrieb Pascal Vincent Calarco: > Hi Joerg -- > > Very nice indeed! What a great venture, Jeorg! I wonder if we could > consider ordering these between events, for those of us who attend > smaller events. > > Joerg, do we have multiple verified suppliers for these in different > countries? I am especially interested in North America. I would like to > order a couple for attending regional linux events where I am, but I > can't forsee attending any of the larger European events, or even FUDCon > Boston adjacent to the Red Hat Summit this summer. > > North and South American ambassadors, if you would be interested in > ordering, perhaps we could discuss this at the next IRC meeting > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-02-04). I am > willing to help coordinate this, if we need someone to take the lead. > > Thanks and very best, > > - pascal > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PascalCalarco > > JoergSimon wrote: > > Hi, > > > > for Fosdem Attendees a new (mini?)charge of Ambassador Poloshirts is asked. > > If you are a Ambassador and come to the Fosdem08 Brussels you can order. Maybe > > one Ambassador of your Country attend here, then you should also order and > > instruct him to bring and ship it if he/she is back. > > We have to pay around 30? per shirt to the manufacturer - you reimburse me on > > Fosdem in exchange for your PoloShirt(s) > > Add you to the List http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/PoloShirt. > > Sorry for the short timeframe. > > > > The next opportunity to order Poloshirts is for Linuxtag08 Berlin - I will > > inform you in time :-) > > > > Cheers Joerg > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Regards Gerold Kassube Fedora Ambassador Deutschland / Germany Schweiz / Switzerland Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From red at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 4 00:24:31 2008 From: red at fedoraproject.org (Sandro "red" Mathys) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 01:24:31 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassador Poloshirts In-Reply-To: <1202071216.4828.9.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> References: <200802032047.26375.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <47A623A3.7080900@nd.edu> <1202071216.4828.9.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: <47A65B3F.5090004@fedoraproject.org> Hi * I reckon it's cheaper to produce them locally (e.g. in the USA for Pascal & the other US ambassadors - probably even more locally, i.e. east coats or north eastern USA). After all, it's just a simple blue (i.e. Pantone ? 2935) polo-shirt with the symbol, the logo amd Ambassador lettering stitched on - nothing that only that producer in Germany can do. And right now, the Euro is very expensive ;) Regards red Gerold Kassube wrote: > Hi Pascal, > > Joerg created that Shirt approx. one year ago and we (who attend FOSDEM, > Linuxtag and a bunch of other smaller event) decided that this > Polo-Shirt *could* be a uniform-al Polo-Shirt for every Ambassador in > the whole world. > BUT, be careful, because it costs approx EUR 25 to produce ONE Shirt and > if you're using a currency calculator there you can see, that it is for > some areas in this world a lot of money (also in Europe) and ... > the second point with the producing is, a private person (in that case > Joerg or last time myself) have to pay in front for the order when we > get the Shirts. > > The Shirt is produzed here in Germany at a special vendor who only sells > and produces in Germany. > So we have no problem to produce a bunch of this shirts, never mind; but > we have to clear out, that we only order if we have the money to pay > for; nor earlier. > > We like to offer the following: > We create a time on which you have latest place your order (let`s say > end of march this year) then we ask for a quote at the vendor; clear out > the shipping costs from Germany to every place you guys want to have it > and then we tell you the date until the money has to arrive ... > If the money did not arrive at this time, we can't order for you because > we can't pay with our private money and btw. this are AMBASSADOR Shirts; > not for public :-) > > Hope this will help you > > Regards > > Gerold > > > Am Sonntag, den 03.02.2008, 15:27 -0500 schrieb Pascal Vincent Calarco: >> Hi Joerg -- >> >> Very nice indeed! What a great venture, Jeorg! I wonder if we could >> consider ordering these between events, for those of us who attend >> smaller events. >> >> Joerg, do we have multiple verified suppliers for these in different >> countries? I am especially interested in North America. I would like to >> order a couple for attending regional linux events where I am, but I >> can't forsee attending any of the larger European events, or even FUDCon >> Boston adjacent to the Red Hat Summit this summer. >> >> North and South American ambassadors, if you would be interested in >> ordering, perhaps we could discuss this at the next IRC meeting >> (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-02-04). I am >> willing to help coordinate this, if we need someone to take the lead. >> >> Thanks and very best, >> >> - pascal >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PascalCalarco >> >> JoergSimon wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> for Fosdem Attendees a new (mini?)charge of Ambassador Poloshirts is asked. >>> If you are a Ambassador and come to the Fosdem08 Brussels you can order. Maybe >>> one Ambassador of your Country attend here, then you should also order and >>> instruct him to bring and ship it if he/she is back. >>> We have to pay around 30? per shirt to the manufacturer - you reimburse me on >>> Fosdem in exchange for your PoloShirt(s) >>> Add you to the List http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/PoloShirt. >>> Sorry for the short timeframe. >>> >>> The next opportunity to order Poloshirts is for Linuxtag08 Berlin - I will >>> inform you in time :-) >>> >>> Cheers Joerg >>> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From jonstanley at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 00:42:07 2008 From: jonstanley at gmail.com (Jon Stanley) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:42:07 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassador Poloshirts In-Reply-To: <47A65B3F.5090004@fedoraproject.org> References: <200802032047.26375.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <47A623A3.7080900@nd.edu> <1202071216.4828.9.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <47A65B3F.5090004@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: I would also be interested if we can get it in USD. If nothing else, I guess that I could pay in EUR but my guess is that would be about twice as expensive as it needs to be if we could produce locally in the US. On 2/3/08, Sandro red Mathys wrote: > Hi * > > I reckon it's cheaper to produce them locally (e.g. in the USA for > Pascal & the other US ambassadors - probably even more locally, i.e. > east coats or north eastern USA). > > After all, it's just a simple blue (i.e. Pantone (R) 2935) polo-shirt with > the symbol, the logo amd Ambassador lettering stitched on - nothing that > only that producer in Germany can do. > > And right now, the Euro is very expensive ;) > > Regards > red > > Gerold Kassube wrote: > > Hi Pascal, > > > > Joerg created that Shirt approx. one year ago and we (who attend FOSDEM, > > Linuxtag and a bunch of other smaller event) decided that this > > Polo-Shirt *could* be a uniform-al Polo-Shirt for every Ambassador in > > the whole world. > > BUT, be careful, because it costs approx EUR 25 to produce ONE Shirt and > > if you're using a currency calculator there you can see, that it is for > > some areas in this world a lot of money (also in Europe) and ... > > the second point with the producing is, a private person (in that case > > Joerg or last time myself) have to pay in front for the order when we > > get the Shirts. > > > > The Shirt is produzed here in Germany at a special vendor who only sells > > and produces in Germany. > > So we have no problem to produce a bunch of this shirts, never mind; but > > we have to clear out, that we only order if we have the money to pay > > for; nor earlier. > > > > We like to offer the following: > > We create a time on which you have latest place your order (let`s say > > end of march this year) then we ask for a quote at the vendor; clear out > > the shipping costs from Germany to every place you guys want to have it > > and then we tell you the date until the money has to arrive ... > > If the money did not arrive at this time, we can't order for you because > > we can't pay with our private money and btw. this are AMBASSADOR Shirts; > > not for public :-) > > > > Hope this will help you > > > > Regards > > > > Gerold > > > > > > Am Sonntag, den 03.02.2008, 15:27 -0500 schrieb Pascal Vincent Calarco: > >> Hi Joerg -- > >> > >> Very nice indeed! What a great venture, Jeorg! I wonder if we could > >> consider ordering these between events, for those of us who attend > >> smaller events. > >> > >> Joerg, do we have multiple verified suppliers for these in different > >> countries? I am especially interested in North America. I would like to > >> order a couple for attending regional linux events where I am, but I > >> can't forsee attending any of the larger European events, or even FUDCon > >> Boston adjacent to the Red Hat Summit this summer. > >> > >> North and South American ambassadors, if you would be interested in > >> ordering, perhaps we could discuss this at the next IRC meeting > >> (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-02-04). I am > >> willing to help coordinate this, if we need someone to take the lead. > >> > >> Thanks and very best, > >> > >> - pascal > >> > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PascalCalarco > >> > >> JoergSimon wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> for Fosdem Attendees a new (mini?)charge of Ambassador Poloshirts is > asked. > >>> If you are a Ambassador and come to the Fosdem08 Brussels you can order. > Maybe > >>> one Ambassador of your Country attend here, then you should also order > and > >>> instruct him to bring and ship it if he/she is back. > >>> We have to pay around 30? per shirt to the manufacturer - you reimburse > me on > >>> Fosdem in exchange for your PoloShirt(s) > >>> Add you to the List http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/PoloShirt. > >>> Sorry for the short timeframe. > >>> > >>> The next opportunity to order Poloshirts is for Linuxtag08 Berlin - I > will > >>> inform you in time :-) > >>> > >>> Cheers Joerg > >>> > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Jon Stanley Fedora Bug Wrangler jstanley at fedoraproject.org From linux at elfshadow.net Mon Feb 4 01:39:41 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 20:39:41 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassador Poloshirts In-Reply-To: <47A65B3F.5090004@fedoraproject.org> References: <200802032047.26375.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <47A623A3.7080900@nd.edu> <1202071216.4828.9.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <47A65B3F.5090004@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <10e0a9b00802031739sb58b104y3636e98655a11ec@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 3, 2008 7:24 PM, Sandro red Mathys wrote: > I reckon it's cheaper to produce them locally (e.g. in the USA for > Pascal & the other US ambassadors - probably even more locally, i.e. > east coats or north eastern USA). Yes, I agree - this is a case where local production would reduce costs by a fair amount just by the amount saved on international shipping. Several of us here have seen the polo shirts J?rg had made and think they look great. I know the ambassadors in our area will get some made before our next big event. As for others looking to get some polo shirts made, there is the Ambassador Vendor page in the wiki [1] that lists a US vendor that can do embroidery along with T-shirts. If others use someone else and have good success, please add that vendor to the Ambassador Vendor page so other ambassadors make use of the info. --Jeffrey [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/AmbassadorVendors From pcalarco at nd.edu Mon Feb 4 01:57:11 2008 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Vincent Calarco) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:57:11 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassador Poloshirts In-Reply-To: <10e0a9b00802031739sb58b104y3636e98655a11ec@mail.gmail.com> References: <200802032047.26375.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <47A623A3.7080900@nd.edu> <1202071216.4828.9.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <47A65B3F.5090004@fedoraproject.org> <10e0a9b00802031739sb58b104y3636e98655a11ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47A670F7.6000609@nd.edu> Awesome, thanks Jeffrey! What we be ideal would be to also post somewhere the vectorized graphics for both the chest embroidery as well as the sleeve detail, so we could give the vendor the precise specifications we need. Jeorg, is this available anywhere, or could you add this to the Polo page? Thanks all! The US vendor on the ambassadors page below is for screen-printed shirts, but it looks from their website that they can also do embroidered shirts as well -- great! I'll follow up with them tomorrow to start the discussion of what start-up costs and individual and volume orders would be for these from that company. - pascal Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: > On Feb 3, 2008 7:24 PM, Sandro red Mathys wrote: > >> I reckon it's cheaper to produce them locally (e.g. in the USA for >> Pascal & the other US ambassadors - probably even more locally, i.e. >> east coats or north eastern USA). >> > > Yes, I agree - this is a case where local production would reduce > costs by a fair amount just by the amount saved on international > shipping. > > Several of us here have seen the polo shirts J?rg had made and think > they look great. I know the ambassadors in our area will get some > made before our next big event. > > As for others looking to get some polo shirts made, there is the > Ambassador Vendor page in the wiki [1] that lists a US vendor that can > do embroidery along with T-shirts. If others use someone else and > have good success, please add that vendor to the Ambassador Vendor > page so other ambassadors make use of the info. > > --Jeffrey > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/AmbassadorVendors > From david at lovesunix.net Mon Feb 4 05:23:56 2008 From: david at lovesunix.net (David Nielsen) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 06:23:56 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassador Poloshirts In-Reply-To: <200802032047.26375.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200802032047.26375.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1202102636.2606.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> s?n, 03 02 2008 kl. 20:47 +0100, skrev JoergSimon: > Hi, > > for Fosdem Attendees a new (mini?)charge of Ambassador Poloshirts is asked. > If you are a Ambassador and come to the Fosdem08 Brussels you can order. Maybe > one Ambassador of your Country attend here, then you should also order and > instruct him to bring and ship it if he/she is back. > We have to pay around 30? per shirt to the manufacturer - you reimburse me on > Fosdem in exchange for your PoloShirt(s) > Add you to the List http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/PoloShirt. > Sorry for the short timeframe. > > The next opportunity to order Poloshirts is for Linuxtag08 Berlin - I will > inform you in time :-) > > Cheers Joerg Oh.. these would be perfect for when I go to OpenSource Days later this year, sadly I am not going to FOSDEM or LinuxTag (ye old lack of funds). If I could arrange with someone to get 2 of these babies in medium somehow I would be very grateful. - David Nielsen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The best source is Logo Guideline Page. The idea sounds simple - but there is so many that a manufacturer can make worse :-) We had switched Colors - then to many stitches for the Logo - the quality of the first shirt ... CU -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From fcrippa at byte-code.com Tue Feb 5 18:40:26 2008 From: fcrippa at byte-code.com (Francesco Crippa) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:40:26 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora by Night - February 19th - Italy In-Reply-To: <804982722.671202236820347.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <494870418.691202236826372.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Dear *, The event in calendar for next February, 19th has an official name: "Fedora by Night" The event will start at 9.00 pm with classic and "peaceful" conference format, then we will continue during the night in a pub with some Italian ambassadors and LUGs in a "flamed" discussions about best distributions and other funny chats... ;-) All information (and materials) are available on this page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FedoraByNight See you soon! Bye francesco From tchung at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 5 19:56:47 2008 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:56:47 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] SCALE 6X This Weekend Message-ID: <369bce3b0802051156r1d1f070g5e8e7d0fd128d4bf@mail.gmail.com> SCALE 6X(The 6th Annual Southern California Linux Expo)[1] will be held this weekend. Fedora Project[2] will be there on Saturday and Sunday between 9am to 5pm. Our Fedora Booth Number is 58 on the Expo Floor[3]. Although it's not shown in the schedule[4] yet, there will be a Fedora BoF(Birds of a Feather) session lead by Tom 'spot' Callaway[5] has been scheduled for Saturday night at 9pm. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/SCALE/SCALE6X [2] http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale6x/conference-info/exhibitions/Fedora/ [3] http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale6x/conference-info/expo-and-room-maps/ [4] http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale6x/conference-info/social-events/birds-of-a-feather/ [5] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/TomCallaway Regards. -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From diaaradwan at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 08:36:42 2008 From: diaaradwan at gmail.com (Diaa Radwan) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:36:42 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Are you fedora fan? Message-ID: <182b9f450802060036ob390c42i536948c7d4dd0ffd@mail.gmail.com> Hello All, I have just created a fedora fan page on facebook, I thought it would be nice to promote fedora over facebook, there is a lot of F/OSS projects that have fan page. here is the link : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fedora/8064650479?ref=mf From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 08:57:17 2008 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:57:17 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Are you fedora fan? In-Reply-To: <182b9f450802060036ob390c42i536948c7d4dd0ffd@mail.gmail.com> References: <182b9f450802060036ob390c42i536948c7d4dd0ffd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <50baabb30802060057i2ead3279nd47e9f1dad49903d@mail.gmail.com> There was already one created by me. long time ago. It has 29 fans. Please don't create duplicates. On Feb 6, 2008 9:36 AM, Diaa Radwan wrote: > Hello All, > > I have just created a fedora fan page on facebook, I thought it would > be nice to promote fedora over facebook, there is a lot of F/OSS > projects that have fan page. > > here is the link : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fedora/8064650479?ref=mf > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From diaa.radwan at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 09:10:33 2008 From: diaa.radwan at gmail.com (Diaa Radwan) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:10:33 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Are you fedora fan? In-Reply-To: <50baabb30802060057i2ead3279nd47e9f1dad49903d@mail.gmail.com> References: <182b9f450802060036ob390c42i536948c7d4dd0ffd@mail.gmail.com> <50baabb30802060057i2ead3279nd47e9f1dad49903d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <182b9f450802060110uea14247k5653b32764e6a178@mail.gmail.com> Chitlesh, Would you pass the link so we can promote yours, as I have searched and I didn't find it though. On Feb 6, 2008 10:57 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > There was already one created by me. > long time ago. > It has 29 fans. > > Please don't create duplicates. > > > On Feb 6, 2008 9:36 AM, Diaa Radwan wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > I have just created a fedora fan page on facebook, I thought it would > > be nice to promote fedora over facebook, there is a lot of F/OSS > > projects that have fan page. > > > > here is the link : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fedora/8064650479?ref=mf > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From pcalarco at nd.edu Wed Feb 6 12:56:53 2008 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Vincent Calarco) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:56:53 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Are you fedora fan? In-Reply-To: <182b9f450802060036ob390c42i536948c7d4dd0ffd@mail.gmail.com> References: <182b9f450802060036ob390c42i536948c7d4dd0ffd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47A9AE95.9030401@nd.edu> There is also a Facebook application, 'What's your favorite Linux distro?' http://apps.facebook.com/fblinux/?link=profile You can choose Fedora and it places a nice, prominent 'I use Fedora Linux' in your profile. More visibility than a fan page, in most cases. Fedora is currently in third place, behind Ubuntu and Debian. - pascal Diaa Radwan wrote: > Hello All, > > I have just created a fedora fan page on facebook, I thought it would > be nice to promote fedora over facebook, there is a lot of F/OSS > projects that have fan page. > > here is the link : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fedora/8064650479?ref=mf > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From pablo.floss at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 18:31:27 2008 From: pablo.floss at gmail.com (Pablo Barrera) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:31:27 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Are you fedora fan? References: <182b9f450802060036ob390c42i536948c7d4dd0ffd@mail.gmail.com> <50baabb30802060057i2ead3279nd47e9f1dad49903d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000e01c868ee$7e4bc860$0301a8c0@usuario> Why not? Replication is good! Anyway, be kind to give a response P. > There was already one created by me. > long time ago. > It has 29 fans. > > Please don't create duplicates. > > On Feb 6, 2008 9:36 AM, Diaa Radwan wrote: >> Hello All, >> >> I have just created a fedora fan page on facebook, I thought it would >> be nice to promote fedora over facebook, there is a lot of F/OSS >> projects that have fan page. >> >> here is the link : >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fedora/8064650479?ref=mf >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From fcrippa at byte-code.com Wed Feb 6 15:58:21 2008 From: fcrippa at byte-code.com (Francesco Crippa) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:58:21 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Are you fedora fan? In-Reply-To: <2046623454.1801202313400186.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <122228237.1821202313501746.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> ----- "Chitlesh GOORAH" wrote: > There was already one created by me. > long time ago. > It has 29 fans. > > Please don't create duplicates. There's a wiki page to avoid duplications in social networks (and make easy to find all Fedora's social networks): http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/SocialNetworks You can add these links in this page ;-) Bye Francesco -- Francesco Crippa http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 16:07:10 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 17:07:10 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Are you fedora fan? In-Reply-To: <47A9AE95.9030401@nd.edu> References: <182b9f450802060036ob390c42i536948c7d4dd0ffd@mail.gmail.com> <47A9AE95.9030401@nd.edu> Message-ID: <64b14b300802060807g4190bb71x5866137443eb1180@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 6, 2008 1:56 PM, Pascal Vincent Calarco wrote: > There is also a Facebook application, 'What's your favorite Linux distro?' > > http://apps.facebook.com/fblinux/?link=profile Fedora's logo is the biggest one :) -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Feb 8 02:50:13 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:50:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag hotel (readme if you will attend LT) Message-ID: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/Rooms Similar to last year, we are in the process of figuring out how many hotel rooms we need to book for LinuxTag. IT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU SIGN UP ON THIS PAGE IF YOU WILL ATTEND LINUXTAG AND WANT A HOTEL ROOM. Gerold will let people know what the deadline for signing up is -- Gerold, you can just reply to this email with any details I have missed. Also like last year, once the final number of rooms is booked and we can estimate the total cost, the Fedora Project will be able to inform people of how much we can pay of the hotel bill. Last year, you will remember that Fedora paid the entire hotel bill for LinuxTag. This year, it will depend on the final cost. There is another conference in Berlin the same days, and therefore it is already impossible for us to stay in the Pegasus Hotel again. Gerold has found a place that is reasonably priced (but more expensive than last year), but that is also MUCH closer to LinuxTag than the Pegasus was. LinuxTag is going to be an excellent event this year. We have a nice booth, we will have lots of swag, and a variety of talks. Furthermore, we will have a "Fedora Ambassador Day" that will really involve several night-time meetings of all the Ambassadors, in which we will plan not only for LinuxTag, but also in which I will hopefully be able to lead the creation of our plans for building the European Fedora Community throughout the entire year. Paul Frields, who has just taken over for me as the overall Fedora Project Leader, will also be at LinuxTag this year. Starting with my trip last year, it will now be tradition that the Fedora Project Leader attends LinuxTag, since it is one of the most important shows in Europe. I am really looking forward to seeing you all at LinuxTag again this year. Thanks, Max From nayyares at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 06:14:28 2008 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:14:28 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag hotel (readme if you will attend LT) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30802072214g1e56a3f9w85feedb84448393f@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 8, 2008 4:50 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/Rooms > > Similar to last year, we are in the process of figuring out how many > hotel rooms we need to book for LinuxTag. > > IT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU SIGN UP ON THIS PAGE IF YOU WILL > ATTEND LINUXTAG AND WANT A HOTEL ROOM. > > Gerold will let people know what the deadline for signing up is -- > Gerold, you can just reply to this email with any details I have missed. > > Also like last year, once the final number of rooms is booked and we can > estimate the total cost, the Fedora Project will be able to inform > people of how much we can pay of the hotel bill. Last year, you will > remember that Fedora paid the entire hotel bill for LinuxTag. This > year, it will depend on the final cost. There is another conference in > Berlin the same days, and therefore it is already impossible for us to > stay in the Pegasus Hotel again. > > Gerold has found a place that is reasonably priced (but more expensive > than last year), but that is also MUCH closer to LinuxTag than the > Pegasus was. > > LinuxTag is going to be an excellent event this year. We have a nice > booth, we will have lots of swag, and a variety of talks. > > Furthermore, we will have a "Fedora Ambassador Day" that will really > involve several night-time meetings of all the Ambassadors, in which we > will plan not only for LinuxTag, but also in which I will hopefully be > able to lead the creation of our plans for building the European Fedora > Community throughout the entire year. > > Paul Frields, who has just taken over for me as the overall Fedora > Project Leader, will also be at LinuxTag this year. Starting with my > trip last year, it will now be tradition that the Fedora Project Leader > attends LinuxTag, since it is one of the most important shows in Europe. Thanks Max. for the updates, but LinuxTag was declared as the most important show/Event for EMEA in FAD-EMEA2007 ! because it just not only covers the issues related to Europe, instead whole EMEA. > > > I am really looking forward to seeing you all at LinuxTag again > this year. Of course it will be a pleasure to see you again :) Cheers > > > Thanks, > Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerold at lugd.org Fri Feb 8 08:10:18 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:10:18 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] RE: LinuxTag hotel (readme if you will attend LT) Message-ID: <1367.62.2.77.2.1202458218.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Hi Everybody and also Hi Max, thanks for bringing up this issue on my behalf to everyone! Ladies, Gentleman, please read carefully what Max told you between the lines ... THIS is also the CALL FOR PARTICIPATION at Linuxtag 2008 in the Capital of Germany (Berlin). More Information about Linuxtag (himself) at http://www.linuxtag.org about the Fedora presence: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/ and only a few Highlights (not all) ... confirmed Attendees - Paul Frields (Fedora Project Leader) [USA] - Max Spevack (former Fedora PL) [USA] - Tom 'spot' Callaway [USA] - Jeroen van Meeuven [Netherlands] - Ahmad Nayyar [Mosambique] >From FAMSCO (so far confirmed): - Andreas Rau (Germany/Switzerland) - Fabian Affolter (Switzerland) - Francesco Ugolini (Italy) we have also confirmed Countries presentations from Greece, France, Belgium, United Kingdom, Austria, Czech Republic, Poland, Germany and last but not least: ALL Ambassadors from Switzland confirmed there participation! We are planning the following highlights which will be shown: - TroubleShooting contest with valuable Prices - FUDCon (1 day Track dedicated with Fedora Speakers, Developers and Users) - FAD (Fedora Ambassador Day) - Fedora rocks on .... (Mac, X-Box, OLPC, EeePc a.s.o.) - ShowRoom of Fedora 9 "Sulphur" - meet the Developer - HR Recruiting Corner from Red Hat and a lot of social networking. Max, and not at least the Fedora LinuxtagTeam would like to invite to to participate that show with more than 10.000 visitors in four days and we hope, if YOU ARE FEDORA ... you will participate and help us to get the fair as an success. So go ahead, register and stay tuned ... regards on behalf and in the name of the Team Gerold -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > Von: Max Spevack > Antwort an: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > An: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Betreff: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag hotel (readme if you will attend LT) > Datum: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:50:13 -0500 (EST) > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/Rooms > > Similar to last year, we are in the process of figuring out how many > hotel rooms we need to book for LinuxTag. > > IT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU SIGN UP ON THIS PAGE IF YOU WILL > ATTEND LINUXTAG AND WANT A HOTEL ROOM. > > Gerold will let people know what the deadline for signing up is -- > Gerold, you can just reply to this email with any details I have missed. > > Also like last year, once the final number of rooms is booked and we can > estimate the total cost, the Fedora Project will be able to inform > people of how much we can pay of the hotel bill. Last year, you will > remember that Fedora paid the entire hotel bill for LinuxTag. This > year, it will depend on the final cost. There is another conference in > Berlin the same days, and therefore it is already impossible for us to > stay in the Pegasus Hotel again. > > Gerold has found a place that is reasonably priced (but more expensive > than last year), but that is also MUCH closer to LinuxTag than the > Pegasus was. > > LinuxTag is going to be an excellent event this year. We have a nice > booth, we will have lots of swag, and a variety of talks. > > Furthermore, we will have a "Fedora Ambassador Day" that will really > involve several night-time meetings of all the Ambassadors, in which we > will plan not only for LinuxTag, but also in which I will hopefully be > able to lead the creation of our plans for building the European Fedora > Community throughout the entire year. > > Paul Frields, who has just taken over for me as the overall Fedora > Project Leader, will also be at LinuxTag this year. Starting with my > trip last year, it will now be tradition that the Fedora Project Leader > attends LinuxTag, since it is one of the most important shows in Europe. > > I am really looking forward to seeing you all at LinuxTag again > this year. > > Thanks, > Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 14:43:06 2008 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:43:06 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Are you fedora fan? In-Reply-To: <182b9f450802060110uea14247k5653b32764e6a178@mail.gmail.com> References: <182b9f450802060036ob390c42i536948c7d4dd0ffd@mail.gmail.com> <50baabb30802060057i2ead3279nd47e9f1dad49903d@mail.gmail.com> <182b9f450802060110uea14247k5653b32764e6a178@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <50baabb30802080643l3e41c475t1512d5d2baa8585c@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 6, 2008 10:10 AM, Diaa Radwan wrote: > Chitlesh, > > Would you pass the link so we can promote yours, as I have searched > and I didn't find it though. > It's under the name "fedora project" http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fedora-Project/7670534782?ref=ts regards, Chitlesh From linux at elfshadow.net Fri Feb 8 14:57:16 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:57:16 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Are you fedora fan? In-Reply-To: <50baabb30802080643l3e41c475t1512d5d2baa8585c@mail.gmail.com> References: <182b9f450802060036ob390c42i536948c7d4dd0ffd@mail.gmail.com> <50baabb30802060057i2ead3279nd47e9f1dad49903d@mail.gmail.com> <182b9f450802060110uea14247k5653b32764e6a178@mail.gmail.com> <50baabb30802080643l3e41c475t1512d5d2baa8585c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10e0a9b00802080657m4e19e8dgce38b27d5c91d38c@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 8, 2008 9:43 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > It's under the name "fedora project" > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fedora-Project/7670534782?ref=ts Added the link to the Social Networks [1] page in the wiki to make it easier for people using the wiki to find. --Jeffrey [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/SocialNetworks From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Feb 8 15:35:44 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:35:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] RE: LinuxTag hotel (readme if you will attend LT) In-Reply-To: <1367.62.2.77.2.1202458218.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <1367.62.2.77.2.1202458218.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Gerold wrote: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008 and also, to request a hotel room, you must sign up here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/Rooms > confirmed Attendees > - Paul Frields (Fedora Project Leader) [USA] > - Max Spevack (former Fedora PL) [USA] Paul and I will definitely be there. > - Tom 'spot' Callaway [USA] Spot will be at FOSDEM... not sure if he'll be at LinuxTag also. I think the plan is that Spot will do FOSDEM and Paul will do LinuxTag. > - Jeroen van Meeuven [Netherlands] > - Ahmad Nayyar [Mosambique] > >> From FAMSCO (so far confirmed): > - Andreas Rau (Germany/Switzerland) > - Fabian Affolter (Switzerland) > - Francesco Ugolini (Italy) > We are planning the following highlights which will be shown: > - TroubleShooting contest with valuable Prices > - FUDCon (1 day Track dedicated with Fedora Speakers, Developers and Users) > - FAD (Fedora Ambassador Day) At the FAD (or one of the nights during LinuxTag), I will lead a meeting in which we discuss the overall plan for Fedora Project in Europe for the rest of 2008. Much thanks to the entire LinuxTag organizational team. They work hard for many months to handle the logistics of this event. ONE LAST THING..... As a special gift to Francesco Ugolini, our FAMSCO chairman, we will order the largest pizza that we can find, and ask them to use spaghetti as the topping. --Max From franz at 688i.com Fri Feb 8 15:37:05 2008 From: franz at 688i.com (Franz Robert) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:37:05 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] RE: LinuxTag hotel (readme if you will attend LT) In-Reply-To: <1367.62.2.77.2.1202458218.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <1367.62.2.77.2.1202458218.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <1202485025.4338.17.camel@root.688i.com> Hi, Just new ambassador, but will be there in Berlin. Confirmed from France: - Franz Robert [France/Switzerland] Hope to see you soon, Franz Le vendredi 08 f?vrier 2008 ? 09:10 +0100, Gerold a ?crit : > Hi Everybody and also Hi Max, > > thanks for bringing up this issue on my behalf to everyone! Ladies, > Gentleman, please read carefully what Max told you between the lines ... > > THIS is also the CALL FOR PARTICIPATION at Linuxtag 2008 in the Capital of > Germany (Berlin). > More Information about Linuxtag (himself) at http://www.linuxtag.org about > the Fedora presence: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/ and only > a few Highlights (not all) ... > > confirmed Attendees > - Paul Frields (Fedora Project Leader) [USA] > - Max Spevack (former Fedora PL) [USA] > - Tom 'spot' Callaway [USA] > - Jeroen van Meeuven [Netherlands] > - Ahmad Nayyar [Mosambique] > > >From FAMSCO (so far confirmed): > - Andreas Rau (Germany/Switzerland) > - Fabian Affolter (Switzerland) > - Francesco Ugolini (Italy) > > we have also confirmed Countries presentations from Greece, France, > Belgium, United Kingdom, Austria, Czech Republic, Poland, Germany and last > but not least: ALL Ambassadors from Switzland confirmed there > participation! > > We are planning the following highlights which will be shown: > - TroubleShooting contest with valuable Prices > - FUDCon (1 day Track dedicated with Fedora Speakers, Developers and Users) > - FAD (Fedora Ambassador Day) > - Fedora rocks on .... (Mac, X-Box, OLPC, EeePc a.s.o.) > - ShowRoom of Fedora 9 "Sulphur" > - meet the Developer > - HR Recruiting Corner from Red Hat > > and a lot of social networking. Max, and not at least the Fedora > LinuxtagTeam would like to invite to to participate that show with more > than 10.000 visitors in four days and we hope, if YOU ARE FEDORA ... > > you will participate and help us to get the fair as an success. > > So go ahead, register and stay tuned ... > > regards on behalf and in the name of the Team > > Gerold > > > > > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > > Von: Max Spevack > > Antwort an: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > An: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > Betreff: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag hotel (readme if you will attend LT) > > Datum: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:50:13 -0500 (EST) > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/Rooms > > > > Similar to last year, we are in the process of figuring out how many > > hotel rooms we need to book for LinuxTag. > > > > IT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU SIGN UP ON THIS PAGE IF YOU WILL > > ATTEND LINUXTAG AND WANT A HOTEL ROOM. > > > > Gerold will let people know what the deadline for signing up is -- > > Gerold, you can just reply to this email with any details I have missed. > > > > Also like last year, once the final number of rooms is booked and we can > > estimate the total cost, the Fedora Project will be able to inform > > people of how much we can pay of the hotel bill. Last year, you will > > remember that Fedora paid the entire hotel bill for LinuxTag. This > > year, it will depend on the final cost. There is another conference in > > Berlin the same days, and therefore it is already impossible for us to > > stay in the Pegasus Hotel again. > > > > Gerold has found a place that is reasonably priced (but more expensive > > than last year), but that is also MUCH closer to LinuxTag than the > > Pegasus was. > > > > LinuxTag is going to be an excellent event this year. We have a nice > > booth, we will have lots of swag, and a variety of talks. > > > > Furthermore, we will have a "Fedora Ambassador Day" that will really > > involve several night-time meetings of all the Ambassadors, in which we > > will plan not only for LinuxTag, but also in which I will hopefully be > > able to lead the creation of our plans for building the European Fedora > > Community throughout the entire year. > > > > Paul Frields, who has just taken over for me as the overall Fedora > > Project Leader, will also be at LinuxTag this year. 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Find it as Preview and svg Cheers Joerg -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From pingoufc4 at yahoo.fr Sat Feb 9 13:04:00 2008 From: pingoufc4 at yahoo.fr (pingou) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:04:00 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Generic Fedora Poster finished by Mairin Duffy In-Reply-To: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47ADA4C0.6050605@yahoo.fr> JoergSimon wrote: > Hello Fellows, > > i had the task to ask ArtworkTeam to create a generic FedoraPoster that we can > print on robust material and use it more often then one release. > With the brilliant work from MairinDuffy and the color suggestions from > JohnAdams and the text from PaulFrields we now have what we need. I am very > happy that we have this Result. > Find it as Preview and svg > > Hi all, Nice job from the art-team once again !! (you are great folks!) However, is there a reason of such big change on the color between the two grey and the blue one ? These two posters looks a bit sad compared to the blue one. Just my two cents, the work done here is really nice ! Thanks, Regards, Pierre From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Sat Feb 9 13:08:28 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:08:28 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Generic Fedora Poster finished by Mairin Duffy In-Reply-To: <47ADA4C0.6050605@yahoo.fr> References: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <47ADA4C0.6050605@yahoo.fr> Message-ID: <64b14b300802090508j1697d01cm7dfac4d163e8fe61@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 9, 2008 2:04 PM, pingou wrote: > JoergSimon wrote: > > Hello Fellows, > > > > i had the task to ask ArtworkTeam to create a generic FedoraPoster that we can > > print on robust material and use it more often then one release. > > With the brilliant work from MairinDuffy and the color suggestions from > > JohnAdams and the text from PaulFrields we now have what we need. I am very > > happy that we have this Result. > > Find it as Preview and svg > > > > > > Hi all, > > Nice job from the art-team once again !! (you are great folks!) > > However, is there a reason of such big change on the color between the > two grey and the blue one ? > > These two posters looks a bit sad compared to the blue one. > > Just my two cents, the work done here is really nice ! > > Thanks, > Regards, > Pierre I also said that previous version was much better with lively colors. if there were too bright pallete could be changed, but all gray is not working for me. This for me is a bit dull. But I love the work ArtWork team does and love the design. I will also translate it to Croatian. Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Sat Feb 9 13:35:12 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 14:35:12 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Generic Fedora Poster finished by Mairin Duffy In-Reply-To: <64b14b300802090508j1697d01cm7dfac4d163e8fe61@mail.gmail.com> References: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <47ADA4C0.6050605@yahoo.fr> <64b14b300802090508j1697d01cm7dfac4d163e8fe61@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200802091435.18749.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Hi Valent, Am Samstag, 9. Februar 2008 14:08:28 schrieb Valent Turkovic: > On Feb 9, 2008 2:04 PM, pingou wrote: > > However, is there a reason of such big change on the color between the > > two grey and the blue one ? > > These two posters looks a bit sad compared to the blue one. > > Just my two cents, the work done here is really nice ! > > Thanks, > > Regards, > > Pierre > I also said that previous version was much better with lively colors. > if there were too bright pallete could be changed, but all gray is not > working for me. This for me is a bit dull. But I love the work ArtWork > team does and love the design. I will also translate it to Croatian. I used the more colorfull and the final versions in a "Fedora Context" (i know the Generic Posters are not made to use it in this way) and i think if you compare and you see why the first colors maybe didn?t work, but i have not really that idea of Artwork, but i feel we should keep the "Fedora Context" even if the colorfull version is nicer for you, if you see it in a detached Context. CU Joerg -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From juankprada at gmail.com Sat Feb 9 14:31:34 2008 From: juankprada at gmail.com (Juan Camilo Prada) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 09:31:34 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Generic Fedora Poster finished by Mairin Duffy In-Reply-To: <64b14b300802090508j1697d01cm7dfac4d163e8fe61@mail.gmail.com> References: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <47ADA4C0.6050605@yahoo.fr> <64b14b300802090508j1697d01cm7dfac4d163e8fe61@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1202567494.2884.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 14:08 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote: > On Feb 9, 2008 2:04 PM, pingou wrote: > > JoergSimon wrote: > > > Hello Fellows, > > > > > > i had the task to ask ArtworkTeam to create a generic FedoraPoster that we can > > > print on robust material and use it more often then one release. > > > With the brilliant work from MairinDuffy and the color suggestions from > > > JohnAdams and the text from PaulFrields we now have what we need. I am very > > > happy that we have this Result. > > > Find it as Preview and svg > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > Nice job from the art-team once again !! (you are great folks!) > > > > However, is there a reason of such big change on the color between the > > two grey and the blue one ? > > > > These two posters looks a bit sad compared to the blue one. > > > > Just my two cents, the work done here is really nice ! > > > > Thanks, > > Regards, > > Pierre > > I also said that previous version was much better with lively colors. > if there were too bright pallete could be changed, but all gray is not > working for me. This for me is a bit dull. But I love the work ArtWork > team does and love the design. I will also translate it to Croatian. +1 I also liked more the lively colors, it kinda gave the feeling of a fresh new and really cool project. From kanarip at kanarip.com Sat Feb 9 15:13:06 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:13:06 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Generic Fedora Poster finished by Mairin Duffy In-Reply-To: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47ADC302.5010309@kanarip.com> JoergSimon wrote: > Hello Fellows, > > i had the task to ask ArtworkTeam to create a generic FedoraPoster that we can > print on robust material and use it more often then one release. > With the brilliant work from MairinDuffy and the color suggestions from > JohnAdams and the text from PaulFrields we now have what we need. I am very > happy that we have this Result. > Find it as Preview and svg > > > Cheers Joerg > OMG, these are just... Put me down for a set of these posters, I want them on the wall of my living room. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From elio at tondo.it Sat Feb 9 15:21:57 2008 From: elio at tondo.it (Elio Tondo) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:21:57 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Generic Fedora Poster finished by Mairin Duffy In-Reply-To: <1202567494.2884.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <47ADA4C0.6050605@yahoo.fr> <64b14b300802090508j1697d01cm7dfac4d163e8fe61@mail.gmail.com> <1202567494.2884.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <47ADC515.8000408@tondo.it> Juan Camilo Prada wrote: >> I also said that previous version was much better with lively colors. >> if there were too bright pallete could be changed, but all gray is not >> working for me. This for me is a bit dull. But I love the work ArtWork >> team does and love the design. I will also translate it to Croatian. > > +1 > I also liked more the lively colors, it kinda gave the feeling of a > fresh new and really cool project. I agree. Elio From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sat Feb 9 15:36:15 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 16:36:15 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Generic Fedora Poster finished by Mairin Duffy In-Reply-To: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: 2008/2/9, JoergSimon : > Hello Fellows, > > i had the task to ask ArtworkTeam to create a generic FedoraPoster that we can > print on robust material and use it more often then one release. > With the brilliant work from MairinDuffy and the color suggestions from > JohnAdams and the text from PaulFrields we now have what we need. I am very > happy that we have this Result. > Find it as Preview and svg > > > Cheers Joerg > > -- > J?rg Simon > jsimon at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon > Key Fingerprint: > 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > That's cool. Great work! Francesco From pingoufc4 at yahoo.fr Sat Feb 9 16:05:02 2008 From: pingoufc4 at yahoo.fr (pingou) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:05:02 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Generic Fedora Poster finished by Mairin Duffy In-Reply-To: <200802091435.18749.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <47ADA4C0.6050605@yahoo.fr> <64b14b300802090508j1697d01cm7dfac4d163e8fe61@mail.gmail.com> <200802091435.18749.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47ADCF2E.9050505@yahoo.fr> JoergSimon wrote: > I used the more colorfull and the final versions in a "Fedora Context" (i know > the Generic Posters are not made to use it in this way) > and i think if you compare > > and > > you see why the first colors maybe didn?t work, but i have not really that > idea of Artwork, but i feel we should keep the "Fedora Context" even if the > colorfull version is nicer for you, if you see it in a detached Context. > I agree with you that included in your poster the latest version looks much better, but if they are printed in order to make one single poster of each then I think the two grey are a bit "sad". Different contexts, different colors :) Regards, Pierre From mspevack at redhat.com Sat Feb 9 18:23:18 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 13:23:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Generic Fedora Poster finished by Mairin Duffy In-Reply-To: <47ADC302.5010309@kanarip.com> References: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <47ADC302.5010309@kanarip.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 9 Feb 2008, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > OMG, these are just... Put me down for a set of these posters, I want > them on the wall of my living room. I agree with Jeroen -- I think they are fantastics. Shall I try to get a set of them made up professionaly for LinuxTag and for the European Ambassadors to hang on to? --Max From laxathom at fedoraproject.org Sat Feb 9 18:47:45 2008 From: laxathom at fedoraproject.org (Xavier Lamien) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:47:45 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Generic Fedora Poster finished by Mairin Duffy In-Reply-To: References: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <47ADC302.5010309@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <62bc09df0802091047s65150272hf41d1a78314e103e@mail.gmail.com> 2008/2/9, Max Spevack : > > On Sat, 9 Feb 2008, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > > > OMG, these are just... Put me down for a set of these posters, I want > > them on the wall of my living room. > > I agree with Jeroen -- I think they are fantastics. > > Shall I try to get a set of them made up professionaly for LinuxTag and > for the European Ambassadors to hang on to? It will be great ;). --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Xavier.t Lamien -- French Fedora Ambassador Fedora/EPEL Contributor | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/XavierLamien GPG-Key ID: F3903DEB Fingerprint: 0F2A 7A17 0F1B 82EE FCBF 1F51 76B7 A28D F390 3DEB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From inode0 at gmail.com Sat Feb 9 18:54:54 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 12:54:54 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Generic Fedora Poster finished by Mairin Duffy In-Reply-To: References: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <47ADC302.5010309@kanarip.com> Message-ID: On Feb 9, 2008 12:23 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Sat, 9 Feb 2008, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > > > OMG, these are just... Put me down for a set of these posters, I want > > them on the wall of my living room. > > I agree with Jeroen -- I think they are fantastics. > > Shall I try to get a set of them made up professionaly for LinuxTag and > for the European Ambassadors to hang on to? Any possible way to maybe offer them through the cool stuff store for everyone else? If so that would be great as well. John From vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl Sat Feb 9 19:06:32 2008 From: vonbrand at inf.utfsm.cl (Horst H. von Brand) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:06:32 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Generic Fedora Poster finished by Mairin Duffy In-Reply-To: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <200802091906.m19J6W8F017646@laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl> JoergSimon wrote: > i had the task to ask ArtworkTeam to create a generic FedoraPoster that we can > print on robust material and use it more often then one release. > With the brilliant work from MairinDuffy and the color suggestions from > JohnAdams and the text from PaulFrields we now have what we need. I am very > happy that we have this Result. > Find it as Preview and svg > Very nice! Just the writing everything in lowercase is a bit jarring to me... -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 2654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 2654239 Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile Fax: +56 32 2797513 From gerold at lugd.org Sat Feb 9 19:29:07 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:29:07 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Generic Fedora Poster finished by Mairin Duffy In-Reply-To: References: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <47ADC302.5010309@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <1202585347.9648.6.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Max, do you remember the banners we had last year? Personally I want such things for a "more-than-once" use and I think it should be made on a truck plane or a strong fabric ... maybe we can also produce it here in Germany and leave it here for the fairs we want to cover ... Just as an idea Gerold Am Samstag, den 09.02.2008, 13:23 -0500 schrieb Max Spevack: > On Sat, 9 Feb 2008, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > > > OMG, these are just... Put me down for a set of these posters, I want > > them on the wall of my living room. > > I agree with Jeroen -- I think they are fantastics. > > Shall I try to get a set of them made up professionaly for LinuxTag and > for the European Ambassadors to hang on to? > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Gerold Kassube -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This entity born from the European community will after a long and hard work made by great people who spent the last 3 year thinking about a home for the ambassadors in Europe. ------ Some Important INFOS (please read it): FAmSCo is here to help each ambassador, everywhere. If you need help (getting resources, organizing local activities, planning FAD meetings, creating a local entity etc...) tell us: we are here everyday, 365 days on 365 (send an email to the M-L, to famsco at fedoraproject.org or contact a FAmSCo member directly). This is a project based on community effort, if someone need help the community is here to give its support. ------ Regards Francesco Ugolini * see the requirements in the nominations wiki page From ben.lewis at benl.co.uk Sun Feb 10 00:34:23 2008 From: ben.lewis at benl.co.uk (Benjamin Lewis) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 00:34:23 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Generic Fedora Poster finished by Mairin Duffy In-Reply-To: <200802091906.m19J6W8F017646@laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl> References: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <200802091906.m19J6W8F017646@laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl> Message-ID: <200802100034.27134.ben.lewis@benl.co.uk> On Saturday 09 February 2008 07:06:32 pm Horst H. von Brand wrote: > JoergSimon wrote: > > i had the task to ask ArtworkTeam to create a generic FedoraPoster that > > we can print on robust material and use it more often then one release. > > With the brilliant work from MairinDuffy and the color suggestions from > > JohnAdams and the text from PaulFrields we now have what we need. I am > > very happy that we have this Result. > > Find it as Preview and svg > > >fb67dcefa9870863e51c8c16745db02> > > Very nice! > > Just the writing everything in lowercase is a bit jarring to me... I disagree with that too, otherwise they are great! -- Benjamin Lewis Fedora Ambassador ben.lewis at benl.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- http://benl.co.uk./ PGP Key: 0x647E480C "In cases of major discrepancy, it is always reality that got it wrong" -- RFC 1118 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From kanarip at kanarip.com Sun Feb 10 00:57:36 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 01:57:36 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora EMEA Board Elections nominations | February 9th - February 21st In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47AE4C00.7030702@kanarip.com> Francesco Ugolini wrote: > Starting from today to February 21st you can nominate yourselves* for > the Fedora EMEA Boards election that will be held at FOSDEM 2008 on > February 23rd. > > For more information and to nominate yourselves visit > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/BoardElections . > I'm up there. Who's next? Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From kanarip at kanarip.com Sun Feb 10 01:04:14 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 02:04:14 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA: Preliminary Statutes In-Reply-To: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> References: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <47AE4D8E.8030208@kanarip.com> Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Hi There, > > this message particularly addresses the EMEA Ambassadors, although of > course every Ambassador regardless of the geographical location is free > to comment. > > Attached is the first initial draft of the Statutes of Fedora EMEA, > which have been submitted for a principle (non-official) approval to the > German Financial Department some time ago, too. > So, given the comments basically what has changed is I added a "0" chapter defining some of the terms used, and I expanded the responsibilities of each board's role or function. If that's all we feel needs to be changed, we're golden to take this one up for a vote February 23rd in Brussels. Make sure any comments get in this coming week, so that I can send out a final in time for everyone to read. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If these organizations are supposed to "help ambassadors working better" it should be mentioned somewhere in the name. I mean "Fedora EMEA Board" sounds a little bit "sophisticated". There are hundreds of people involved in Fedora in EMEA. So, is it a Ambassador-only thing or not? Matthias -- Matthias Kranz http://mkr.oerks.de From polytropolis at gmail.com Sun Feb 10 11:15:47 2008 From: polytropolis at gmail.com (Claus Reheis) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 12:15:47 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Generic Fedora Poster finished by Mairin Duffy In-Reply-To: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1202642147.6108.2.camel@desktop> Hi all! On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 13:53 +0100, JoergSimon wrote: > Hello Fellows, > > i had the task to ask ArtworkTeam to create a generic FedoraPoster that we can > print on robust material and use it more often then one release. > With the brilliant work from MairinDuffy and the color suggestions from > JohnAdams and the text from PaulFrields we now have what we need. I am very > happy that we have this Result. > Find it as Preview and svg > > > Cheers Joerg > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Great work!!! We could ask ixsoft.de to place the poster in their webshop: http://ixsoft.de/cgi-bin/web_store.cgi?cart_id=573883_25738&page=Catalogs/de/poster-catalog.html Greetings, ClausReheis From satyajit at nerdshack.com Sun Feb 10 13:09:23 2008 From: satyajit at nerdshack.com (Satyajit Ranjeev) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:39:23 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Generic Fedora Poster finished by Mairin Duffy In-Reply-To: <47ADC515.8000408@tondo.it> References: <200802091353.21177.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <47ADA4C0.6050605@yahoo.fr> <64b14b300802090508j1697d01cm7dfac4d163e8fe61@mail.gmail.com> <1202567494.2884.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47ADC515.8000408@tondo.it> Message-ID: <1202648963.9738.0.camel@compaq.oakgrove.hom> +1 Awesome work... Neat finish and good choice of colours... Satyajit On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 16:21 +0100, Elio Tondo wrote: > Juan Camilo Prada wrote: > > >> I also said that previous version was much better with lively colors. > >> if there were too bright pallete could be changed, but all gray is not > >> working for me. This for me is a bit dull. But I love the work ArtWork > >> team does and love the design. I will also translate it to Croatian. > > > > +1 > > I also liked more the lively colors, it kinda gave the feeling of a > > fresh new and really cool project. > > I agree. > > Elio > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From kanarip at kanarip.com Sun Feb 10 13:32:40 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 14:32:40 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora EMEA Board Elections nominations | February 9th - February 21st In-Reply-To: <1202625253.26665.21.camel@dhcp-0-189.muc.redhat.com> References: <1202625253.26665.21.camel@dhcp-0-189.muc.redhat.com> Message-ID: <47AEFCF8.6030405@kanarip.com> Matthias Kranz wrote: > If these organizations are supposed to "help ambassadors working better" > it should be mentioned somewhere in the name. I mean "Fedora EMEA Board" > sounds a little bit "sophisticated". There are hundreds of people > involved in Fedora in EMEA. So, is it a Ambassador-only thing or not? > Is this an Ambassador initiative? Yes. Will it, as such, focus on what Ambassadors want/need? Yes. Is Fedora EMEA limited (by rules, etc?) to aiding Ambassadors only? No. This is the Ambassadors getting done what they need to get done, get some gears in motion, and once it is up and running, it could very well end up not being an Ambassador-only thing. FWIW, previously we've talked about EventBox and other Ambassador resources being shipped around in the EMEA area and other things like that, but while doing so, we also thought about the possibility (given enough financial resources of course) of reimbursing speakers (from the community), and invite them to an event. In this area, we have already thought about what the Ambassadors can do both for themselves as well as the rest of the community, but we cannot say that we will do so. It is too premature to make any statement as to what it is we can or will do, other then the things that the takers of the initiative want to get done. You, as a community member, have a voice I think a board should listen to, and should you become a member of the NPO you even have a vote -hierarchically the board must listen to that. There's no limitation to who will be able to become a member -in that way, it isn't going to be an Ambassadors-only thing. I hope this answers your question although I didn't give you a simple "yes" or "no". Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Sun Feb 10 15:08:29 2008 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:08:29 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1830 #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20080210160829.8771af06.thomas.canniot@mrtomlinux.org> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2008-02-10 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (10 f?v.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'h?sitez pas ? la modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent int?ressants. Thomas Canniot -- Thomas Canniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Yes. > > Is Fedora EMEA limited (by rules, etc?) to aiding Ambassadors only? No. > > This is the Ambassadors getting done what they need to get done, get > some gears in motion, and once it is up and running, it could very well > end up not being an Ambassador-only thing. FWIW, previously we've talked > about EventBox and other Ambassador resources being shipped around in > the EMEA area and other things like that, but while doing so, we also > thought about the possibility (given enough financial resources of > course) of reimbursing speakers (from the community), and invite them to > an event. In this area, we have already thought about what the > Ambassadors can do both for themselves as well as the rest of the > community, but we cannot say that we will do so. It is too premature to > make any statement as to what it is we can or will do, other then the > things that the takers of the initiative want to get done. > > You, as a community member, have a voice I think a board should listen > to, and should you become a member of the NPO you even have a vote > -hierarchically the board must listen to that. There's no limitation to > who will be able to become a member -in that way, it isn't going to be > an Ambassadors-only thing. > > I hope this answers your question although I didn't give you a simple > "yes" or "no". Absolutely. Thanks for that. But then I totally disagree with the fact that the instantiation of this organization happens "in the background". Only people who attend FOSDEM are allowed to vote and to candidate for the board. Matthias -- Matthias Kranz http://mkr.oerks.de From red at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 11 06:54:33 2008 From: red at fedoraproject.org (Sandro "red" Mathys) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:54:33 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora EMEA Board Elections nominations | February 9th - February 21st In-Reply-To: <1202712112.26665.27.camel@dhcp-0-189.muc.redhat.com> References: <1202625253.26665.21.camel@dhcp-0-189.muc.redhat.com> <47AEFCF8.6030405@kanarip.com> <1202712112.26665.27.camel@dhcp-0-189.muc.redhat.com> Message-ID: <47AFF129.2080405@fedoraproject.org> Matthias Kranz wrote: > But then I totally disagree with the fact that the instantiation of this > organization happens "in the background". Only people who attend FOSDEM > are allowed to vote and to candidate for the board. Actually, we can't change anything about this (except we could do it at another time/place, but that wouldn't change too much). The law requires to have the people on-site when founding an association. If I understand the statutes correct, later votings must not necessarily be "offline". I'm not sure regarding board elections tho. Normally one needs to be physically present to be elected to the board AFAIK. Someone with more knowledge of the German law should be able to correct me. Regards red From ljuwaida at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 11 08:37:01 2008 From: ljuwaida at fedoraproject.org (Laith Juwaidah) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:37:01 +0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Updates about my activities Message-ID: Hi, I just wanted to update you guys about what I'm doing: 1. Distributing Linux CDs and installing Linux on others' PCs, just today I'll be installing Fedora on two of my friends' laptops, and next week, another friend will be getting a laptop from work and he wants to install Linux on it. [1] 2. I got the support I need to participate in one of the largest computer conferences in Oman (well, it IS the largest :P). I just need to have some financial support. [2] [1] http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52291 [2] http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50899 -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ http://ljuwaidah.blogspot.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 11 10:41:24 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 11:41:24 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Updates about my activities In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Great! Francesco 2008/2/11, Laith Juwaidah : > Hi, > > I just wanted to update you guys about what I'm doing: > > 1. Distributing Linux CDs and installing Linux on others' PCs, just today > I'll be installing Fedora on two of my friends' laptops, and next week, > another friend will be getting a laptop from work and he wants to install > Linux on it. [1] > > 2. I got the support I need to participate in one of the largest computer > conferences in Oman (well, it IS the largest :P). I just need to have some > financial support. [2] > > [1] > http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52291 > [2] > http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50899 > -- > Laith Juwaidah > http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ > http://ljuwaidah.blogspot.com/ > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > From fzied at dottn.com Mon Feb 11 15:01:28 2008 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:01:28 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Updates about my activities In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Talking about activities, here are mines for instance. Am prepared a migration plan from redmond xxx to Fedora at "work". We'll be starting the next week (monday). we hold about 300 PCs and we do have 3 servers (1 bi-xeon and 2 mono xeon, with a total of 600Gb of HDD) for the weekest PCs (about 30) I'll be using LTSP and for the rest it will be Fedora. We we'll be finished by the end of March ... I hope :) I'll tell you, in the right time, for whom I do work, it will be a good move to Fedora in Tunisia. kind regards, Zied. On 2/11/08, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > Great! > > Francesco > > 2008/2/11, Laith Juwaidah : > > Hi, > > > > I just wanted to update you guys about what I'm doing: > > > > 1. Distributing Linux CDs and installing Linux on others' PCs, just today > > I'll be installing Fedora on two of my friends' laptops, and next week, > > another friend will be getting a laptop from work and he wants to install > > Linux on it. [1] > > > > 2. I got the support I need to participate in one of the largest computer > > conferences in Oman (well, it IS the largest :P). I just need to have some > > financial support. [2] > > > > [1] > > http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52291 > > [2] > > http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50899 > > -- > > Laith Juwaidah > > http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ > > http://ljuwaidah.blogspot.com/ > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Zied Fakhfakh Dot TN - CTO Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis Tunisia T : +216 71 886112 F : +216 71 885499 M : +216 22 535604 W : http://www.dottn.com GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C From pablo.floss at gmail.com Mon Feb 11 17:32:13 2008 From: pablo.floss at gmail.com (Pablo Barrera) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:32:13 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Day 2008 Buenos Aires Message-ID: <46d0f200802110932y486880bj424064bebe56620c@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, Well, the year activities has begun in Latinamerica now, as you now, we have summer here and year activities starts at march. So before the FISL in porto alegre, where with the help of Rodrigo we will bring the First Fedora Day in Buenos Aires, in April or the first week in May. Fedora Day will be a day of technical issues with the support of the Technical Support Chief of Red hat Latinamerica, and the president of Joomla! Cono Sur, that will bring and issue about using Joomla in Fedora Servers as the speak of web design. I would like to welcome to Javier Gabriel, the new Fedora Ambassador for Argentina, ( Now we are 3). If you wan to know more about the event check the spanish argentinian new release http://www.proyectofedora.org/argentina/?p=21 I will keep in touch with anticipation for requests DVds and things like that Fedorize yourself! Pablo Barrera -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cono Sur, that will bring and issue about using > Joomla in Fedora Servers as the speak of web design. > > I would like to welcome to Javier Gabriel, the new Fedora Ambassador for > Argentina, ( Now we are 3). > > If you wan to know more about the event check the spanish argentinian new > release > > http://www.proyectofedora.org/argentina/?p=21 > > I will keep in touch with anticipation for requests DVds and things like > that > > Fedorize yourself! > Pablo Barrera > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fab at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 11 20:06:56 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:06:56 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER: EMEA Ambassador Meeting this Wednesday ! Message-ID: <47B0AAE0.7050908@fedoraproject.org> Ladies and gentlemen ! Don't you remember there is an EMEA Ambassador meeting next Wednesday (Europe, the Middle East, and Africa) on #fedora-meeting ? day : Wednesday, February 13th, 2008 Time : 20:00 UTC (check http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=13&month=02&year=2008&hour=20&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 to know your own time depending on your countries) Channel : #fedora-meeting Meeting agenda (add your topic before the meeting please) : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-02-13 Update your agendas, and don't forget to join us. Fabian From stickster at gmail.com Mon Feb 11 20:41:42 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:41:42 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag hotel (readme if you will attend LT) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1202762502.30487.64.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 21:50 -0500, Max Spevack wrote: > Paul Frields, who has just taken over for me as the overall Fedora > Project Leader, will also be at LinuxTag this year. Starting with my > trip last year, it will now be tradition that the Fedora Project Leader > attends LinuxTag, since it is one of the most important shows in Europe. Hear, hear! I can't wait to meet the Ambassadors at LinuxTag -- this will be my first trip ever to Germany, and I'm glad it's for such a special event. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From stickster at gmail.com Mon Feb 11 20:43:52 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:43:52 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] RE: LinuxTag hotel (readme if you will attend LT) In-Reply-To: References: <1367.62.2.77.2.1202458218.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <1202762632.30487.67.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 10:35 -0500, Max Spevack wrote: > On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Gerold wrote: > > - Tom 'spot' Callaway [USA] > > Spot will be at FOSDEM... not sure if he'll be at LinuxTag also. I > think the plan is that Spot will do FOSDEM and Paul will do LinuxTag. That's correct; Spot was kind enough to do FOSDEM since I will be away from home on another commitment then. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From gdk at redhat.com Mon Feb 11 21:00:24 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:00:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag hotel (readme if you will attend LT) In-Reply-To: <1202762502.30487.64.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1202762502.30487.64.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 11 Feb 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Hear, hear! I can't wait to meet the Ambassadors at LinuxTag -- this > will be my first trip ever to Germany, and I'm glad it's for such a > special event. Two pieces of advice: 1. Go easy on the beer. 2. If no one can agree on where to eat, and you find yourself considering a place that serves pizza *and* Indian food... think again. srsly. --g -- Greg DeKoenigsberg Community Development Manager Red Hat, Inc. :: 1-919-754-4255 "To whomsoever much hath been given... ...from him much shall be asked" From gerold at lugd.org Mon Feb 11 21:08:37 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:08:37 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag hotel (readme if you will attend LT) In-Reply-To: References: <1202762502.30487.64.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1202764117.3446.4.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> *g* here you have a running gag (a special kind of ITALIAN) Am Montag, den 11.02.2008, 16:00 -0500 schrieb Greg DeKoenigsberg: > On Mon, 11 Feb 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > Hear, hear! I can't wait to meet the Ambassadors at LinuxTag -- this > > will be my first trip ever to Germany, and I'm glad it's for such a > > special event. > > Two pieces of advice: > > 1. Go easy on the beer. > > 2. If no one can agree on where to eat, and you find yourself considering > a place that serves pizza *and* Indian food... think again. srsly. ^^ Pizza will be DEFINITLY a meal, but only with Spaghetti :-) We will definitly find a restaurant who serve this delicious meal to our Project Leader and the chair of FAMSCo .... Max, and all attendees from last year, also me are looking forward to hear a wonderfull never ending giggling .... Friendly yours :-) Gerold -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <47B0AAE0.7050908@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B0AAE0.7050908@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 11 Feb 2008, Fabian Affolter wrote: > Don't you remember there is an EMEA Ambassador meeting next Wednesday > (Europe, the Middle East, and Africa) on #fedora-meeting ? I will be sure to attend this meeting. I am really looking forward to it. --Max From fcrippa at byte-code.com Mon Feb 11 22:39:25 2008 From: fcrippa at byte-code.com (Francesco Crippa) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:39:25 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag hotel (readme if you will attend LT) In-Reply-To: <87058890.6431202769476782.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <1298285860.6451202769565200.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> ----- "Gerold Kassube" wrote: > [...] > Pizza will be DEFINITLY a meal, but only with Spaghetti :-) > We will definitly find a restaurant who serve this delicious meal to > our Project Leader and the chair of FAMSCo .... > [...] mmmmm... pizza and spaghetti all together... It sounds pretty strange... Should I be worried about that? :-) See you soon! bye Francesco -- Francesco Crippa http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa From stickster at gmail.com Mon Feb 11 22:45:05 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:45:05 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag hotel (readme if you will attend LT) In-Reply-To: References: <1202762502.30487.64.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1202769905.32280.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2008-02-11 at 16:00 -0500, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > On Mon, 11 Feb 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > Hear, hear! I can't wait to meet the Ambassadors at LinuxTag -- this > > will be my first trip ever to Germany, and I'm glad it's for such a > > special event. > > Two pieces of advice: > > 1. Go easy on the beer. What kind of an international gadabout do you take me for, my good man? > 2. If no one can agree on where to eat, and you find yourself considering > a place that serves pizza *and* Indian food... think again. srsly. Mmm, chicken curry pizza. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From kushaldas at gmail.com Tue Feb 12 02:15:51 2008 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:45:51 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag hotel (readme if you will attend LT) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200802120745.52002.kushaldas@gmail.com> On Tuesday 12 February 2008 02:40:23 am Max Spevack wrote: > 3. Never trust Chitlesh to order food for you in a French-speaking > country. Any special memory on that :) Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.in http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur) From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Tue Feb 12 04:30:30 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:00:30 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fwd: [ilugd] BITS Linux Users Club] Message-ID: <47B120E6.7000503@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 They seem to have a TechFest coming up http://www.bits-apogee.org/ : can someone from Delhi help out here ? ~sankarshan - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ilugd] BITS Linux Users Club Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:46:18 +0530 From: Phaneendra Reply-To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list To: ilugd at lists.linux-delhi.org Hello Everyone, ~ Iam Rama Krishna Phaneendra,doing my B.Pharm(Hons) in BITS-Pilani,Pilani Campus.Our college is on of the top institues in India,standing along side the IITs.I hereby wanted to bring to your attention the following piece of Information.We have formed a community called BITS Linux Users Club (BLUC).Our primary objective is to build and sustain a strong community of Linux users in BITS.Our goal will be to provide help and support to both new and old Linux users, helping in installing and setting up Linux on computers, and encouraging the adoption of the Linux Operating System on campus. - -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHsSDmXQZpNTcrCzMRAnmLAKCx+YI4zsrYylLUrbKSGebEHDVvKwCgsVpO FSwnCk/gAWR9WSlbA1/WbS4= =jPpc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From javier.gbrl at gmail.com Tue Feb 12 07:48:40 2008 From: javier.gbrl at gmail.com (Javier Gabriel) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:48:40 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Day 2008 Buenos Aires In-Reply-To: <46d0f200802110932y486880bj424064bebe56620c@mail.gmail.com> References: <46d0f200802110932y486880bj424064bebe56620c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1202802520.3792.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello Everyone... Wow! my first event :-) I am already preparing my speech for the event Regards Javier Gabriel - Fedora Ambassador, Argentina www.proyectofedora.org/argentina El lun, 11-02-2008 a las 14:32 -0300, Pablo Barrera escribi?: > Hi all, > Well, the year activities has begun in Latinamerica now, as you now, > we have summer here and year activities starts at march. > So before the FISL in porto alegre, where with the help of Rodrigo we > will bring the First Fedora Day in Buenos Aires, in April > or the first week in May. > > Fedora Day will be a day of technical issues with the support of the > Technical Support Chief of Red hat Latinamerica, and the > president of Joomla! Cono Sur, that will bring and issue about using > Joomla in Fedora Servers as the speak of web design. > > I would like to welcome to Javier Gabriel, the new Fedora Ambassador > for Argentina, ( Now we are 3). > > If you wan to know more about the event check the spanish argentinian > new release > > http://www.proyectofedora.org/argentina/?p=21 > > I will keep in touch with anticipation for requests DVds and things > like that > > Fedorize yourself! > Pablo Barrera > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From pingoufc4 at yahoo.fr Tue Feb 12 17:03:32 2008 From: pingoufc4 at yahoo.fr (pingou) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:03:32 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag hotel (readme if you will attend LT) In-Reply-To: <200802120745.52002.kushaldas@gmail.com> References: <200802120745.52002.kushaldas@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47B1D164.1030105@yahoo.fr> Kushal Das wrote: > On Tuesday 12 February 2008 02:40:23 am Max Spevack wrote: >> 3. Never trust Chitlesh to order food for you in a French-speaking >> country. > Any special memory on that :) > Why does it makes me remember a certain steak tartare ?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare ;) Pierre From ljuwaida at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 12 18:27:57 2008 From: ljuwaida at fedoraproject.org (Laith Juwaidah) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:27:57 +0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Updates about my activities In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Awesome, I wish I could do that in my college, they'd kill me if I do so :P Congratulations :) On Feb 11, 2008 7:01 PM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > Talking about activities, here are mines for instance. > > Am prepared a migration plan from redmond xxx to Fedora at "work". > We'll be starting the next week (monday). > > we hold about 300 PCs and we do have 3 servers (1 bi-xeon and 2 mono > xeon, with a total of 600Gb of HDD) > > for the weekest PCs (about 30) I'll be using LTSP and for the rest it > will be Fedora. > > We we'll be finished by the end of March ... I hope :) > > I'll tell you, in the right time, for whom I do work, it will be a > good move to Fedora in Tunisia. > > kind regards, > Zied. > > On 2/11/08, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > > Great! > > > > Francesco > > > > 2008/2/11, Laith Juwaidah : > > > Hi, > > > > > > I just wanted to update you guys about what I'm doing: > > > > > > 1. Distributing Linux CDs and installing Linux on others' PCs, just > today > > > I'll be installing Fedora on two of my friends' laptops, and next > week, > > > another friend will be getting a laptop from work and he wants to > install > > > Linux on it. [1] > > > > > > 2. I got the support I need to participate in one of the largest > computer > > > conferences in Oman (well, it IS the largest :P). I just need to have > some > > > financial support. [2] > > > > > > [1] > > > http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52291 > > > [2] > > > http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50899 > > > -- > > > Laith Juwaidah > > > http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ > > > http://ljuwaidah.blogspot.com/ > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > -- > Zied Fakhfakh > Dot TN - CTO > Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 > Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis > Tunisia > > T : +216 71 886112 > F : +216 71 885499 > M : +216 22 535604 > W : http://www.dottn.com > > GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Laith Juwaidah http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ http://ljuwaidah.blogspot.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Shh. ;) Seriously, I think it is that important. ~spot From franz at 688i.com Wed Feb 13 00:46:53 2008 From: franz at 688i.com (Franz Robert) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:46:53 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 9 Always leads never follows Message-ID: <1202863613.4345.71.camel@root.688i.com> Hi, I'm interested by some short texts or sentences about Fedora 9 new features that could catch the attention of the press people. These might be in the Fedora spirit I recall in the subject: Fedora always leads, never follows. What makes Fedora different in facts for users and what is really important to say about F9 release (for ex.: vs Ubuntu current release ; vs any other free/open offer). I plan to send a press release WITH a live CD and a complete DVD to all the computer media writers when it will time to (and why not a F9 tee-shirt?) Any proposal is welcome and we can discuss it to set the right words in the "perfect" press release*. We will keep an English one. Then any ambassador or marketing group's member can translate for local use). This subject could be in the marketing news list but I think ambassadors should be closer to users, vendors and press. Finally, most of us are in the marketing group! Thanks to help in this brainstorm. Franz * A press release must be short, strait to the hot spots, easy to understand and it have to highlight what really matter for the users. So prefer "Fedora project strike again in Linux World with top of the art release 9!" more than "Fedora project announce release 9!" (That will be translated in magazines - if done - by something like "Another release for Fedora Linux"). And, if this is possible, think about NINE best striking - 2008 feeling - sentences. 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Hi Franz, I would highly recommend that you move this thread to Fedora Marketing list, where you can work directly with the folks who create the Release Summary and Red Hat's press people also. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/ReleaseSummary Thanks for your enthusiasm! --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Feb 13 02:27:32 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:27:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Reports Message-ID: For Red Hat, a new budget year begins on March 1. Greg DeKoenigsberg, Jack Aboutboul, and I have been working hard to secure *significantly* higher funding for community events and Ambassadors than has existed in previous years. But with increased funding comes increased pressure to prove that the money was well spent. To that end... I would like to propose something for FAMSCO to consider, or if a policy like this is already in place, I would like FAMSCO to reiterate that policy and hold people accountable: === Anyone (regardless of whether they work for Red Hat or not) who receives money from the Fedora budget to *attend or organize* an event is required to produce an "event report". The event report should consist of: - one blog post per day with a description of what you did, the atmosphere of the event in general, and pictures if they are available. - a summary post to fedora-ambassadors-list at the end that provides links to all the blog posts. - the "leader" of that particular event should encourage all the other Fedora folks who were there to post about it as well, and aggregate their posts into the summary email to Fedora Ambassadors list. - were any new contributors signed up during the event? - the blog should be part of the Fedora Planet. - this should be completed within 1 week from the end of the trip. === For examples, I would encourage people to look back at my blog posts from LinuxTag or FOSDEM last year, or Eugene Teo's blog posts about LCA just a week or two ago. The reason why these reports should go on Fedora Planet is because there are many people who read Fedora Planet who never will read fedora-ambassadors-list and therefore more people will hear about the event. I would love if Thomas Chung and Spot would post some summaries of their trip to SCALE. They are "senior" members of the Fedora community and I would expect this from them regardless, but because this event was last week, it is fresh in my mind. Spot has already posted once about SCALE, but there has to be more! What was the BOF that you did like, for example? Did we sign up any new contributors? Similarly, FAMSCO should expect to see a trip/event report from Jack for Florida Linux Show soon. Just something for folks to think about... REMEMBER: The most important thing that Fedora Ambassadors does is promote the Fedora brand, and recruit new members to our community. We don't just want to recruit new Ambassadors -- we want to recruit new people who will be packagers, artists, documenters, testers, etc. We are looking to identify people who are excited about Fedora, and to give them a personal introduction to the Fedora community. One of the single best things that any Ambassador can do at an event is help a potential contributor sign the CLA and edit his/her personal wiki page. Then the new contributor will leave feeling like they are a part of the community, and they will be ready to start contributing to Fedora when they get home. --Max From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 13 02:48:10 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:48:10 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Reports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200802130348.24461.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Mittwoch, 13. Februar 2008 03:27:32 schrieb Max Spevack: > > Anyone (regardless of whether they work for Red Hat or not) who > receives money from the Fedora budget to *attend or organize* an event > is required to produce an "event report". i do this anyway - perfect to have that transparency now for all events! CU Joerg -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. 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I would like us to get in the habit of *everyone* doing it. :) From fzied at dottn.com Wed Feb 13 08:47:10 2008 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:47:10 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Updates about my activities In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sure I'll do :) 2008/2/12 Laith Juwaidah : > Awesome, I wish I could do that in my college, they'd kill me if I do so :P > Congratulations :) > > > > On Feb 11, 2008 7:01 PM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > > > Talking about activities, here are mines for instance. > > > > Am prepared a migration plan from redmond xxx to Fedora at "work". > > We'll be starting the next week (monday). > > > > we hold about 300 PCs and we do have 3 servers (1 bi-xeon and 2 mono > > xeon, with a total of 600Gb of HDD) > > > > for the weekest PCs (about 30) I'll be using LTSP and for the rest it > > will be Fedora. > > > > We we'll be finished by the end of March ... I hope :) > > > > I'll tell you, in the right time, for whom I do work, it will be a > > good move to Fedora in Tunisia. > > > > kind regards, > > Zied. > > > > > > > > > > On 2/11/08, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > > > Great! > > > > > > Francesco > > > > > > 2008/2/11, Laith Juwaidah : > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I just wanted to update you guys about what I'm doing: > > > > > > > > 1. Distributing Linux CDs and installing Linux on others' PCs, just > today > > > > I'll be installing Fedora on two of my friends' laptops, and next > week, > > > > another friend will be getting a laptop from work and he wants to > install > > > > Linux on it. [1] > > > > > > > > 2. I got the support I need to participate in one of the largest > computer > > > > conferences in Oman (well, it IS the largest :P). I just need to have > some > > > > financial support. [2] > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52291 > > > > [2] > > > > http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50899 > > > > -- > > > > Laith Juwaidah > > > > http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ > > > > http://ljuwaidah.blogspot.com/ > > > > -- > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Zied Fakhfakh > > Dot TN - CTO > > Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 > > Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis > > Tunisia > > > > T : +216 71 886112 > > F : +216 71 885499 > > M : +216 22 535604 > > W : http://www.dottn.com > > > > GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > Laith Juwaidah > http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ > http://ljuwaidah.blogspot.com/ > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Zied Fakhfakh Dot TN - CTO Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis Tunisia T : +216 71 886112 F : +216 71 885499 M : +216 22 535604 W : http://www.dottn.com GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C From eduardo.villagran.morales at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 10:47:17 2008 From: eduardo.villagran.morales at gmail.com (Eduardo =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Villagr=E1n?= Morales) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:47:17 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Updates about my activities In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1202899637.2735.0.camel@caleuche> Congratulation!! El lun, 11-02-2008 a las 12:37 +0400, Laith Juwaidah escribi?: > Hi, > > I just wanted to update you guys about what I'm doing: > > 1. Distributing Linux CDs and installing Linux on others' PCs, just > today I'll be installing Fedora on two of my friends' laptops, and > next week, another friend will be getting a laptop from work and he > wants to install Linux on it. [1] > > 2. I got the support I need to participate in one of the largest > computer conferences in Oman (well, it IS the largest :P). I just need > to have some financial support. [2] > > [1] http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52291 > [2] http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50899 > -- > Laith Juwaidah > http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ > http://ljuwaidah.blogspot.com/ > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Eduardo Villagr?n Morales Embajador Fedora Linuxdiinf.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I got the support I need to participate in one of the largest > > computer conferences in Oman (well, it IS the largest :P). I just need > > to have some financial support. [2] > > > > [1] http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52291 > > [2] http://www.englishsabla.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50899 > > -- > > Laith Juwaidah > > http://www.ljuwaidah.org/ > > http://ljuwaidah.blogspot.com/ > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- > Eduardo Villagr?n Morales > Embajador Fedora > Linuxdiinf.org > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Zied Fakhfakh Dot TN - CTO Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis Tunisia T : +216 71 886112 F : +216 71 885499 M : +216 22 535604 W : http://www.dottn.com GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 13 14:13:46 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:13:46 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Reports In-Reply-To: References: <200802130348.24461.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: I agree with this idea, personally (i hope to take with me my laptop, unfortunately i can bring with me only a bag) i will try to report my activity at FOSDEM. Thank you for your advice +1 for the proposal Francesco 2008/2/13, Max Spevack : > On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, JoergSimon wrote: > > >> Anyone (regardless of whether they work for Red Hat or not) who > >> receives money from the Fedora budget to *attend or organize* an > >> event is required to produce an "event report". > > > > i do this anyway - perfect to have that transparency now for all > > events! > > > Many people do it already -- and I am very thankful to the people who > do. > > I would like us to get in the habit of *everyone* doing it. > > :) > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From rodrigomenezes12 at yahoo.com.br Wed Feb 13 16:27:46 2008 From: rodrigomenezes12 at yahoo.com.br (Rodrigo Menezes) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:27:46 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linux Distribution Chooser In-Reply-To: References: <1202899637.2735.0.camel@caleuche> Message-ID: <47B31A82.6050608@yahoo.com.br> Test to define the best Linux distro for your use: http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php For me I got Fedora, OpenSuse or Mandriva. Cheers, Rodrigo Menezes _______________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - Sempre a melhor op??o para voc?! Experimente j? e veja as novidades. http://br.yahoo.com/mailbeta/tudonovo/ From tcallawa at redhat.com Wed Feb 13 16:53:02 2008 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom Callaway) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:53:02 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] SCALE 6X Trip Report Message-ID: <1202921583.3251.154.camel@dhcp83-61.boston.redhat.com> Sitting here in Boston, watching the rain fall on the snowpiles in 36 degree weather, I wonder exactly why I left LA? :) SCALE 6X was one of the most fun, most interesting community shows that I have attended in quite some time. Friday was a day of specialized tracks, one for Open Source in Education, one for Open Source in Healthcare, and one for Women in Open Source. Since the expo floor wasn't open until Saturday, I actually got to attend some of these sessions. In particular, I attended several of the Women in Open Source sessions, specifically to try to gain some perspective about Fedora, and what we might do to encourage more women to contribute. In discussions, I discovered that one of the women in attendance was actually interested in Fedora at one point, only to be treated incredibly rudely on the Fedora IRC channel, and give up. I wish I could say that this shocked me, but sadly, I could easily believe it. As a result, I'm starting work on a "IRC Code of Conduct", for the users and the ops of #fedora channels. There is no reason why the Fedora community cannot treat each other with respect and dignity. Later in the show, that same woman came to me, and showed me that she had installed Fedora on her laptop. I hope that she is willing to give us another chance. I also got to attend a session on Drupal, which looks really amazing, even if it is in PHP. :) After the sessions, some of the speakers invited me to join them for dinner, which was a lot of fun, and introduced me to some well known folks in the Open Source community. There are a lot of amazing people in our community, and I'm glad to get the opportunity to know them better. On Saturday, the expo floor opened, and I got to meet Thomas Chung, who helped me man the Fedora booth. Thomas was great, he provided posters, stickers, DVDs and T-Shirts, plus he was willing to talk to all visitors, and encourage them to try Fedora 8. We were right next-door to Red Hat, which was an excellent opportunity for us to show unity. Some people still have the wrong idea about how Fedora and Red Hat are connected, and it is always good when we can show them that we are a team, not competitors. The traffic on Saturday was amazing, I must have talked to hundreds of people about Fedora, Open Source, and Linux. It feels really great to be able to talk to people about the strengths of Fedora, about how Fedora stands for the best ideals of Free and Open Source Software, and to get others excited as well. I took some time on Saturday to do some podcast interviews, then I grabbed Joe ?Zonker? Brockmeier and we sat down and talked for an hour about the possibility of distribution collaboration. I am positive that as time goes by (he just started!), we'll be able to work together more, as opposed to constantly reinventing the wheel. At one point in our conversation, Jono Bacon dropped by to say hello, it was a little strange to have representatives from Ubuntu, Fedora, and OpenSUSE talking together, but a positive thing. Jono jokingly suggested that we should come to the Ubuntu Developers conference, and I offered to give a talk on making quality RPMs. ;) I didn't get to attend any keynotes, or any sessions on Saturday, but I was most interested in Sunday's sessions. After the show closed, I stuck my head in the reception, where SCALE was raffling off all sorts of goodies for those people who had gone around and filled their "ticket" with the various stamps from the vendor booths. After dinner, I held the Fedora BOF. It was the last BOF slot, and we were directly competing with the "Weakest Geek" competition, so I wasn't expecting a very big turnout. However, about 10 people showed up, and we talked in depth about the features for Fedora 9, as well as what people wanted to see. Clint "Herlo" Savage stuck around for the BOF, and when it was over, we moved down the hall (next to the bucket of beer) and just kept talking. In fact, we drew a crowd of folks, who ended up talking until 1:30 AM. We probably would have kept talking, but I was so exhausted I had to call it a night. I think that I enjoy those hallway conversations most of all. On Sunday, there were several presentations I wanted to hear, so I worked the booth during the keynote, then left to listen to Karen Sandler from the SFLC talk about Legal Organizational Issues for Free Software Products. It reminded me of how lucky Fedora has it, to be protected by Red Hat's legal umbrella, but also how much of a nightmare the "Fedora Foundation" would have been for us. After the presentation, I went to lunch with Liana Linden, who does a lot of the trademark and licensing policy for Linden Labs. We had a very interesting discussion about the similarities between our two projects. In fact, she inspired me to start hacking on the Second Life viewer code again (I got it compiled on rawhide, but it doesn't work right...). I spent the rest of the day in the Fedora booth, talking to the folks who came towards the end, then packed up to go home. Some folks who I want to thank: * Thomas Chung (next time, I promise, I will let you buy me lunch) * Barton George at Sun (my very first podcast interviewer) * Danese Cooper at Intel (thank you for inviting me to dinner) * Stormy Peters at OpenLogic (I want to steal your slide technique) * Chris Blizzard (snowboarding in Syria!) * Dirk Morris (next time, tell us that your food never showed up) * Cat Allman at Google (next time, I promise you can have a seatbelt) * Peter Kronowitt at Intel (anyone who shares their sake with me is a friend in my book!) * Zak Greant (you have the smallest business card ever) * Clint Savage (how exactly did we get from dirty jokes to Ron Paul?) * Joe Brockmeier (Smolt, Licensing, and de-macro-ization!) * Beth Lynn Eicher (it takes bravery to speak out, thank you again) * Liana Holmberg (Jono is your fanboy.) * Everyone else who I have forgotten, that made SCALE so much fun. ~spot From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Feb 13 17:36:26 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:36:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] SCALE 6X Trip Report In-Reply-To: <1202921583.3251.154.camel@dhcp83-61.boston.redhat.com> References: <1202921583.3251.154.camel@dhcp83-61.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Tom Callaway wrote: > Sitting here in Boston, watching the rain fall on the snowpiles in 36 > degree weather, I wonder exactly why I left LA? :) This was a great trip report, Spot. Seems like SCALE fits about 4 days worth of stuff into a 2 day event. --Max --Max From thecyberxp at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 18:11:34 2008 From: thecyberxp at gmail.com (Wael AMMAR) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:11:34 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linux Distribution Chooser In-Reply-To: <47B31A82.6050608@yahoo.com.br> References: <1202899637.2735.0.camel@caleuche> <47B31A82.6050608@yahoo.com.br> Message-ID: <11204d710802131011p63a26901vb43c1a86e830c3a5@mail.gmail.com> Funny web site :) me too I got : 1- Fedora 2- Mandriva 3- OpenSuse Cheers, -- Wael Ammar (TheCyberXP) Tunisian Fedora Ambassador Vice President Club FreeWays -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 13 19:15:02 2008 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:15:02 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] SCALE 6X Trip Report In-Reply-To: References: <1202921583.3251.154.camel@dhcp83-61.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0802131115g3e8c14f2w5babb35a8d28d1e0@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 13, 2008 9:36 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Tom Callaway wrote: > > > Sitting here in Boston, watching the rain fall on the snowpiles in 36 > > degree weather, I wonder exactly why I left LA? :) > > > > This was a great trip report, Spot. Seems like SCALE fits about 4 days > worth of stuff into a 2 day event. > > --Max Max, I know I owe you some pictures from the event. I'll do my best to make them available tonight. :) Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Feb 13 19:31:40 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:31:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] SCALE 6X Trip Report In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0802131115g3e8c14f2w5babb35a8d28d1e0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1202921583.3251.154.camel@dhcp83-61.boston.redhat.com> <369bce3b0802131115g3e8c14f2w5babb35a8d28d1e0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Thomas Chung wrote: > I know I owe you some pictures from the event. > I'll do my best to make them available tonight. :) Between Spot's words and your pictures, I think we'll have a great overview of the event. My very sincere thanks to you Thomas, for always being the organizing force behind SCALE. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Feb 13 20:16:25 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:16:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] CountryList Message-ID: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList Is this page updated automatically, or is it done by hand? In other words, do we have a way of knowing how accurate this page is? --Max From kanarip at kanarip.com Wed Feb 13 20:21:30 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:21:30 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] CountryList In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47B3514A.9070205@kanarip.com> Max Spevack wrote: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList > > Is this page updated automatically, or is it done by hand? > > In other words, do we have a way of knowing how accurate this page is? > I remember having to add myself, so... I'd say manually. -Jeroen From bpepple at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 13 20:30:52 2008 From: bpepple at fedoraproject.org (Brian Pepple) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:30:52 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] CountryList In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1202934652.3239.25.camel@kennedy> On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 15:16 -0500, Max Spevack wrote: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList > > Is this page updated automatically, or is it done by hand? > > In other words, do we have a way of knowing how accurate this page is? I'm pretty sure it's manual, since it's showing spot as being an ambassador for Illinois. ;) /B -- Brian Pepple http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BrianPepple gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From lfbm.andamentos at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 20:33:02 2008 From: lfbm.andamentos at gmail.com (Luis Felipe Marzagao/Yahoo) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:33:02 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] CountryList In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47B353FE.5090703@yahoo.com.br> I recently joined tha ambassadors group and I can confirm it's done manually. --duli Max Spevack escreveu: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList > > Is this page updated automatically, or is it done by hand? > > In other words, do we have a way of knowing how accurate this page is? > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Feb 13 21:00:44 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:00:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] CountryList In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Max Spevack wrote: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList > > Is this page updated automatically, or is it done by hand? So clearly it's being done by hand. Next question: How do we automate it, so that we can actually know *where* our ambassadors are and have an understanding of if (and where) we are growing? And if we can't automate it, what is the manual process that we need to go through to at least make it up to date? --Max From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 13 21:24:08 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:24:08 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] CountryList In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/2/13, Max Spevack : > And if we can't automate it, what is the manual process that we need to > go through to at least make it up to date? > > > --Max > When i arrived in the project I have done the following passages to add myself in the list: 1. ask for editing privileges in the wiki 2. add myself through wiki editing This was my experience. I don't know if actually exist an automatic solution to update the list, i can say that we can use the "Welcome message" sent automatically when a new member join ambassador group, adding in this one the country, and, after that, someone have to update the wiki. Once again i have to underline my ignorance in the subject but, collaborating in Wikipedia, i found that they solved many routine issues through Bots (i don't know how they work but they are helping a lot that project): I think we could investigate this way, maybe it will be the solution. Regards Francesco Ugolini From lfbm.andamentos at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 21:29:37 2008 From: lfbm.andamentos at gmail.com (Luis Felipe Marzagao/Yahoo) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:29:37 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] CountryList In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47B36141.10306@yahoo.com.br> Does this help? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification Max Spevack escreveu: > On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Max Spevack wrote: > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList >> >> Is this page updated automatically, or is it done by hand? > > So clearly it's being done by hand. > > Next question: > > How do we automate it, so that we can actually know *where* our > ambassadors are and have an understanding of if (and where) we are > growing? > > And if we can't automate it, what is the manual process that we need > to go through to at least make it up to date? > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From jonstanley at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 21:32:28 2008 From: jonstanley at gmail.com (Jon Stanley) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:32:28 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] CountryList In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Feb 13, 2008 4:00 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > And if we can't automate it, what is the manual process that we need to > go through to at least make it up to date? It's in Thomas's "list of things to do" mail when he welcomes a new Ambassador. Right now, I think that if we ask each member of the list to go through and verify their info, that should work too. From fab at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 13 21:54:26 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:54:26 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors Meeting EMEA - IRC Log 2008-02-13 Message-ID: <47B36712.7060809@fedoraproject.org> let's have monthly Fedora Ambassadors Meeting for EMEA Please state your wiki name please (aka roll call). MaxSpevack SandroMathys FrancescoCrippa * kital (n=Joerg_Si at fedora/kital) has joined #fedora-meeting FabianAffolter AndreasRau told me he regrets to not be able to be here * spevack thought this meeting was every week.. it's only once a month? is GeroldKa here? yes, only once a month JoergSimon <- late where are all the other ambassadors? are we going to cancel this meeting because we are only 5 people? wait a view minutes * ChitleshGoorah (n=chitlesh at 77.206.229.202) has joined #fedora-meeting i have a few questions i'd like to ask, while we at least have a few people here. hi ChitleshGoorah! oh RobertScheck hai spevack ChitleshGoorah spevack: go a head fabian_a: there was no reminder AFAIK if Andreas hadn't told me he's not attending the meeting like 40 minutes ago...I'd have missed it too :/ rsc: there was a reminder on monday Well, I wanted to see if everything is ready for FOSDEM -- if there is anything else people need. * MrTom (n=mrtom at fedora/MrTom) has joined #fedora-meeting * ChitleshGoorah now confirms his presence at FOSDEM :) fabian_a: between Monday and today were worlds for me, sorry. but stays only up to 12h on sunday And second, I wanted to know if there is a separate meeting for the LinuxTag planning, or if we talk about that here. spevack: it is likely, that a second real-life meeting for LinuxTag will bring more results - just FYI Gerold mentioned such a second meeting vaguely in the past (of course, we can talk about everything here as well) spevack, right now there is only the mailing list. there is no further meeting planned so far fabian_a: can I get added to that mailing list (mspevack at redhat.com) for LinuxTag planning? I placed an order last week for 1,000 Fedora stickers and 200 Fedora tshirts... almost all of that will be for LinuxTag spevack, i will take care about that we will make more swag than that later, but I wanted to order this stuff early because we had some extra money. ! kital: should we make a second RoleCall ? and start the meeting? sure do it! eof please state your wiki name and start with the meeting once again JeroenVanMeeuwen FabianAffolter JoergSimon FrancescoCrippa ChitleshGoorah: * tw2113 (n=tw2113 at host-94-134-2-96.midco.net) has joined #fedora-meeting MaxSpevack SandroMathys as I said before, AndreasRau regrets to not be able to attend RobertScheck ThomasCanniot Just the normal reminder. We'll still follow our meeting protocol to make this meeting quick and efficient. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol MichaelBeckwith open our meeting page at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-02-13 if you like * valent (n=valentt at dh207-62-20.xnet.hr) has joined #fedora-meeting * DanseMakabre has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 1. Report current status of FAmSCo * Josh_Borke (n=jk275 at WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) has left #fedora-meeting fugolini is not present. skip this... next topic: Ambassadors Membership As of 2008-02-11, 305 Ambassadors have been verified (signed CLA and joined 'ambassadors' group) ! spevack: ! do we know how many of those 305 are new since last month? And do we know how many of those 305 are in EMEA specifically? eof i guess not but there are ways to register the new ambassadors every month i think that it is very important to not only have the *total* number of ambassadors but also to know the growth each month, and the regions where that growth is happening. That is the sort of data that is very useful to Fedora Board and Red Hat in securing budget for Ambassadors. they can separate by countries -> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Count +1 the time i spent in europe last year was very useful for this and we have more money for Ambassadors in general -- all over the world -- because we saw how strong Europe was, and we also know that South America is very strong. and now Greg and I will be focusing much more on those two regions in the coming year than in the past. So it will be up to the local groups -- and also FAMSCO -- to continue to provide folks like me with the data that we need to get budget. EOF -- sorry to ramble * valen1 (n=valentt at dh207-61-67.xnet.hr) has joined #fedora-meeting ! i will collect this data. like for the fad 2007 at berlin ChitleshGoorah, talking about CLA, I have noticed some contributors (packagers mostly) are using fake names rather than real names. this is mostly a fedora advisory board issue, but its worth that everyone knows this issue so that we can little by little prevent such things: _eoc_ is this the channel for EMEA meeting? sorry for being late... * rdieter has quit (Remote closed the connection) tehnical issues because I'm not connecting from home valen1: this is the right place :) ChitleshGoorah: can you send a mail to f-a-b about that? and then they can take care of it (hopefully). ChitleshGoorah: maybe give some examples. Or if you want, send me the examples and I will write the mail to f-a-b when i'll have time i'll do it EOF thanks ChitleshGoorah I'm Croatian Ambassador, and this is my first contact in any official irc ambassadors channel. valen1: Welcome! we are all happy to meet you! thank you valen1, please follow the protocol http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol are we done with Ambassadors Membership? i had an outstanding ! sorry, kanarip i remember i had to update the countrylist manually when i joined the ambassadors, so that isn't representing the numbers exactly. I recall FAS has some information about the country for each FAS member so maybe we can check who is where in the 'ambassadors' group using that. EOF ! spevack, In the past 2 days I have sent email to mike mcgrath and toshio asking if they can help pull data like this from the FAS. I think that it is probably very easy for them. * spevack cares a lot about statistics and metrics/ EOF +1, or "cool" anything else? next, please open Fedora Events http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents ! * KAM (n=karim_ah at 41.233.44.29) has joined #fedora-meeting let's start with Linux Solutions, MrTom perhaps kital, Material& Material Tracker? ! The Generic Poster we decided is designed and i will get Prints on Truckplane tomorrow so we can see how they will work so we have that for now ! eof we have kicked the material tracker because there was only a little feedback about this during the last year spevack, MrTom was first... i yield to him then MrTom, ok Solutions Linux was a great success. We had the chance to received the 100 live cds the first morning of the event directly on the booth, thanks to Gerold reactivity. All the DVDs were sold or given. ? we also tried to have contact with Franz Meier, but he was too busy and we missed him. eof spevack, two things first i want everyone here to understand something about budget at Red Hat March 1 is the date where we get new budget for the year. For europe, we have several ideas for this budget -- a few big shows like LinuxTag and FOSDEM, probably one big FUDCon somewhere in Europe, etc. But also we have budget -- about $12,000 per quarter, for the entire world -- for smaller shows. So I look at the FedoraEvents page and I realize that we didn't help with LinuxSolutions at all for budget. * valent has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) but I want to fix problems like that in the future ! so i just want you all to know -- we will have much more budget starting March 1, and now that I am not the overall Fedora Leader anymore, I am going to be focusing lots of my time on Ambassadors and events worldwide. as is Greg DeKoenigsberg second thing... MrTom did we sign up any new contributors at LinuxSolutions? I think it is very important that we try to help new contributors sign the CLA and get their Fedora account at shows. EOF * glezos (n=glezos at fedora/glezos) has joined #fedora-meeting ! hi all, sorry I'm late -- was at work fcrippa, then MrTom, I've seen there's a "RedHat Partner Summit" in EMEA this year, very similar to RH Summit (usa) format do you think it could be possible to have a "fedora" space into this event? fcrippa: I think that Red Hat is planning *something* in Europe similar to the RH Summit in the USA. And if/when that happens, we will try to have a Fedora event at the same time. +1 for helping contributos sing CLA eof fcrippa: we are having a FUDCon at the same time as the RH Summit in USA. And from now on, we will have a FUDCon at every RH Summit, anywhere in the world. http://www.europe.redhat.com/mktg/partnersummit/?sc_cid=547 EOF spevack, unfortunately no, most people come here to know what fedora is, get a cd, and to make criticism (good or bad) of the distro, or to have a chat with us. eof * bpepple|lt has quit ("Ex-Chat") MrTom: ok. spevack: that's great news next event: Lolug Pillole at Lodi (formally "Fedora by Night") fcrippa: This is the first I have heard of the partner summit in your link... so i don't know if Fedora will be there. But *after* that, we will definitely have Fedora at all major RH events in Europe (that is my plan) EOF spevack: +1 * KAM has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) fcrippa, something about Lolug Pillole at Lodi ok Everything should be ready I've received dvds from spevack some weeks ago thanks fcrippa t-shirts and caps (20 items) from spriedshirt last week (with local "own" budget) and tomorrow I hope to have mairin posters printed ! We've got al least 3 big online italian newspaper that report news about "fedora by night" * ldimaggi__ has quit () eof spevack, After March 1 when we have our new budget I will be happy to pay the costs of several sets of Mairin's posters to be made for the European ambassadors * EvilBob (n=bob at fedora/pdpc.sustaining.BobJensen) has joined #Fedora-Meeting so if fcrippa or kital are making them, i can pay you back in a few weeks. one question. are we translating the posters? or just english? EOF ! ! * kital not - because i use it in Brussels Germany and Poland +1 fcrippa just english in Italian they sound a bit strange... best results with english version eof +1 spevack: FWIW, I'll translate it for a local event. rsc, fabian_a: just the same as kital (and +1 as mentioned) EOF ok ? valen1, I have a question about budgeting. Does the budget cover some events that promote fedora but aren't shows? I have a project in mind that would get quite large media coverage in Croatian mainstream media and I would like to present it like Red Hat/Fedora sponsored event. ! It would be localisation marathon - we would get 10-15 contributors to work on translation of Fedora, Gnome and other projects to Croatia. That would be a great way of promoting Fedora as a distribution for education, local groverment, etc... I believe that this would be a really not expensive event. And we would also like to distribute fedora promo materials on this event that would be 2 days long. We could do this every month... and we believe that after 2-3 events we would get local companies to cover the budget. How does this sound to you? eof valen1: I think it sounds very, very interesting. and I would think that glezos, who is our translation and localization king, could probably help you out. I am happy to support an activity like that. I really need to do a longer presentation to all of you about our budget. But to explain it in 30 seconds: there is money set aside specifically for shows and events but there is also money set aside for localization, and for other opportunities that we can't forsee but that come up. valen1: for anything specific to the actual *work* around localization, i suggest you talk to glezos. For any money needs, I am the guy to talk to. EOF ! glezos, valen1: *any* help I can give, just yell. In fact, I'll come private now or a bit later to make sure you have everything you need. eof ok, next event FOSDEM 2008 any news? wiki page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008 ! glezos, ! fabian_a: seems we'll be a big bunch of people, yay! we will :-) I have scheduled a meeting with the mediawiki guys to talk about localization, since we're thinking about having it as our wiki solution And also I'd really like us to sit down and discuss localization, our tools, community around translations and *everything* around this issue. So I'll make sure to go around and find a slot of 1-2 hours to properly cover everything, so that I'll make sure you have what you need for getting the word out to any local group/language eof hold on guys i gotta jump irc servers the one i'm connected to is going down for maintainance * ChitleshGoorah now confirms his presence at FOSDEM :) but will return early * kanarip has quit (Remote closed the connection) * kanarip (n=kanarip at vito.kanarip.com) has joined #fedora-meeting kital, * kital will bring "older" OLPC from Max, will bring the Posters - and the Fedora Ambassador Polos which are ordered and will arrive in time eof * spevack is trying to get some new OLPC in time for LinuxTag * ChitleshGoorah will bring a KDE4 on a laptop + FEL applications :) * glezos will bring a Tux poster 3m high :P anything else about FOSDEM? ! * jnash2001 (n=jnash200 at unaffiliated/jnash2001) has joined #fedora-meeting red_alert, ! I just got message from the linuxtag organizers...they'll attend FOSDEM (and some other european events in the next some weeks) too...maybe a good chance to clear some things in person where necessary eof MrTom, french people should normaly bring 100 Fedora badges, this is an exprimental order from us. we don't know if we'll got them on time eof thanks, MrTom and red_alert next event: Chemnitzer LinuxTage 2008 ! kital, Booth is allocated http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2008/live/detail.html?idx=133 * stickster is now known as stickster_afk ! special Poster generated http://jsimon.fedorapeople.org/clt2.pdf * kital and rsc, JensKuehnel DanielKretzschmer are Ambassadors off duty eof * ChitleshGoorah motivates ambassadors to go to chemnitz, their social party is great :) thanks, kital next will be OpenExpo 2008 Berne ! spevack, if either fabian_a or kital need some budget to help make your events more successful, I can give you that after March 1. Let me know. * stickster_afk is now known as stickster eof thanks, spevack. so far we have Live CDs from GeroldKa and some posters from last year. maybe a text-banner too * kital has noticed * _blah_ (n=rob at rXm-581b.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) has left #fedora-meeting i want to discuss the rest during fosdem because kital is there, too next: LinuxTag there was a offline meeting at the begin of february * rahul_b has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) * No5251 (n=No5251 at dslb-084-057-206-042.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #fedora-meeting * No5251 has quit (Client Quit) * No5251 (n=No5251 at dslb-084-057-206-042.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #fedora-meeting check out http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/FLTT if you want to help anything else about Fedora Events? (Thumbs-up for organizing stuff in the open, on the wiki!) ! spevack, I have one quick question i notice that there are lots of EMEA events in Feb, Mar, Apr, May. After linux tag the EventsList for Europe drops off a lot are there no other events, or are they just not on the list yet? eof ! rsc, AFAIK there are nearly less to no bigger events. Correct me, if I'm wrong. EOF ! kital, Froscon, Fr?hjahrsfachgespr?ch are the only - i know eof froscon is already on the list * JSchmitt (n=s4504kr at p54B13327.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #fedora-meeting ! fcrippa, In Italy will be "Linux Day" well, then the less busy time will be a good time to try to organize a Europe FUDCon ;) more then 100 small event in the same moment one for each italian cities last year ubuntu dominated dvd distribution... * jmbuser (n=jmbuser at 195.229.24.83) has joined #fedora-meeting so I hope this year also fedora can participate to dvd war.. spevack: definitely! Distances are small here, so we could get a lot of people together more easily. eof (linux day should be last week of october) ? spevack: +1 valen1, Will there be a full text copy of this meeting - if it will - where and when? glezos please contact me offline because I have to go now. My email is valent.turkovic at gmail.com because I have lots of localization questions. Thank you all and bye. eof valen1: will do! more issues about events? there's an event called "HCC dagen" with about 120.000 visitors in Oct/Nov in the Netherlands ! kanarip: add it! :) please add all events to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents red_alert, * valen1 has quit ("Leaving.") I know that FrOSCon is taking place no earlier than august...but just to check, is there someone feeling responsible for that event? they should add themselves to the FedoraEvents page eof next topic: NPO kanarip please ok i've sent the latest draft of the NPO statutes to the mailing list, incorporating some of the comments made on the first draft Gerold indicates that the financial department in Germany still needs to "OK" the first draft and that is just to indicate there are no fundamental problems -nothing official about their answer- We've set up a page where you can self-nominate if you would want to run for board and the law requires a minimum of 4 people on the board, and so far 4 people have nominated themselves ! note that amongst those 4 is MaxSpevack, who regretably will not be able to attend FOSDEM and can therefore not be elected :/ :( again, that's a requirement by law and not something we made up on the spot < sorry max :/ kanarip: but i will someday stage a coup! ;) you will i'm sure i'll be watching you ;-) kanarip: it's ok. I even noted that on the page * spot ponders a coup so far, so good, gerold and i have been thinking about postponing the foundation if there is 1) not enough candidates for board, or 2) if the ambassadors think max should be there when it all goes down There was a parol "OK" by a German financial department for the first draft (?), but nothing in written form, yet -- EOF (fabian_a, you're to slow) 3) whatever other reason you can think of... fill us in any questions? * MrTom has quit ("Fedora: Would you run anything else?") now it's up to rsc :-) there is an opportunity on the table to motion... i'll ask again, any questions? ? red_alert, kanarip: FWIW, I'm planning on nominate for the board as well spot: i called dibs on the coup, but you can be my minion if you like ;) no-one wants to suggest postponing and make a motion to do so? red_alert, there's your answer i guess ;-) * stickster has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) we could still have a general member meeting at linuxtag in berlin in order to give more members to be voted into the board that can't go to FOSDEM, right? of course we still need 4 nominees at FOSDEM * tw2113 (n=tw2113 at host-94-134-2-96.midco.net) has left #fedora-meeting ("IRC is just multiplayer notepad") spevack: yes, but i will be at fosdem. muahaa! * spevack shakes his fist oh...eof red_alert, maybe we could i'll have to clear that up with Gerold fabian_a, i guess there's no more questions or comments so we can continue ;-) EOF kanarip: +1 / red_alert: -1 thanks, kanarip the stage is open rsc, +1 to what exactly? Here is presentation I did for Fedora Electronic Lab, http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/fel-fabless-solutions.pdf , please pass it on to those you may know who might interested. I talked about where FEL applications can be used and how academic institutions might take advantage of it. eof * stickster (n=pfrields at ip72-209-237-99.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined #fedora-meeting anything else? * DanseMakabre (i=pat at bobo.ds5.agh.edu.pl) has joined #fedora-meeting apparently not ok kanarip: communication with Gerold about this/doing it still on FOSDEM 5 4 3 2 1 Fedora Ambassadors Meeting EMEA 2008-02-13 has been adjourned. Next meeting in March 2008. From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Feb 13 21:58:05 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:58:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors Meeting EMEA - IRC Log 2008-02-13 In-Reply-To: <47B36712.7060809@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B36712.7060809@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Does someone want to run this through one of those nice irc to html generators or something for the wiki? thanks, Max On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Fabian Affolter wrote: > let's have monthly Fedora Ambassadors Meeting for EMEA > Please state your wiki name please (aka roll call). > MaxSpevack > SandroMathys > FrancescoCrippa > * kital (n=Joerg_Si at fedora/kital) has joined #fedora-meeting > FabianAffolter > AndreasRau told me he regrets to not be able to be here > * spevack thought this meeting was every week.. it's only once a month? > is GeroldKa here? > yes, only once a month > JoergSimon <- late > where are all the other ambassadors? > are we going to cancel this meeting because we are only 5 people? > wait a view minutes > * ChitleshGoorah (n=chitlesh at 77.206.229.202) has joined #fedora-meeting > i have a few questions i'd like to ask, while we at least have a > few people here. > hi ChitleshGoorah! > oh > RobertScheck > hai spevack > ChitleshGoorah > spevack: go a head > fabian_a: there was no reminder AFAIK > if Andreas hadn't told me he's not attending the meeting like 40 > minutes ago...I'd have missed it too :/ > rsc: there was a reminder on monday > Well, I wanted to see if everything is ready for FOSDEM -- if there > is anything else people need. > * MrTom (n=mrtom at fedora/MrTom) has joined #fedora-meeting > * ChitleshGoorah now confirms his presence at FOSDEM :) > fabian_a: between Monday and today were worlds for me, sorry. > but stays only up to 12h on sunday > And second, I wanted to know if there is a separate meeting for the > LinuxTag planning, or if we talk about that here. > spevack: it is likely, that a second real-life meeting for LinuxTag > will bring more results - just FYI > Gerold mentioned such a second meeting vaguely in the past > (of course, we can talk about everything here as well) > spevack, right now there is only the mailing list. there is no > further meeting planned so far > fabian_a: can I get added to that mailing list (mspevack at > redhat.com) for LinuxTag planning? > I placed an order last week for 1,000 Fedora stickers and 200 > Fedora tshirts... almost all of that will be for LinuxTag > spevack, i will take care about that > we will make more swag than that later, but I wanted to order this > stuff early because we had some extra money. > ! > kital: > should we make a second RoleCall ? and start the meeting? > sure > do it! eof > please state your wiki name and start with the meeting > once again > JeroenVanMeeuwen > FabianAffolter > JoergSimon > FrancescoCrippa > ChitleshGoorah: > * tw2113 (n=tw2113 at host-94-134-2-96.midco.net) has joined #fedora-meeting > MaxSpevack > SandroMathys > as I said before, AndreasRau regrets to not be able to attend > RobertScheck > ThomasCanniot > Just the normal reminder. We'll still follow our meeting protocol > to make this meeting quick and efficient. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol > MichaelBeckwith > open our meeting page at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-02-13 if you like > * valent (n=valentt at dh207-62-20.xnet.hr) has joined #fedora-meeting > * DanseMakabre has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) > 1. Report current status of FAmSCo > * Josh_Borke (n=jk275 at WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) has left > #fedora-meeting > fugolini is not present. skip this... > next topic: Ambassadors Membership > As of 2008-02-11, 305 Ambassadors have been verified (signed CLA > and joined 'ambassadors' group) > ! > spevack: > ! > do we know how many of those 305 are new since last month? And do > we know how many of those 305 are in EMEA specifically? > eof > i guess not but there are ways to register the new ambassadors > every month > i think that it is very important > to not only have the *total* number of ambassadors > but also to know the growth each month, and the regions where that > growth is happening. > That is the sort of data that is very useful to Fedora Board and > Red Hat in securing budget for Ambassadors. > they can separate by countries -> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Count > +1 > the time i spent in europe last year was very useful for this > and we have more money for Ambassadors in general -- all over the > world -- because we saw how strong Europe was, and we also know that South > America is very strong. > and now Greg and I will be focusing much more on those two regions > in the coming year than in the past. > So it will be up to the local groups -- and also FAMSCO -- to > continue to provide folks like me with the data that we need to get budget. > EOF -- sorry to ramble > * valen1 (n=valentt at dh207-61-67.xnet.hr) has joined #fedora-meeting > ! > i will collect this data. like for the fad 2007 at berlin > ChitleshGoorah, > talking about CLA, I have noticed some contributors > (packagers mostly) are using fake names rather than real names. this is > mostly a fedora advisory board issue, but its worth that everyone knows this > issue so that we can little by little prevent such things: _eoc_ > is this the channel for EMEA meeting? sorry for being late... > * rdieter has quit (Remote closed the connection) > tehnical issues because I'm not connecting from home > valen1: this is the right place :) > ChitleshGoorah: can you send a mail to f-a-b about that? and then > they can take care of it (hopefully). > ChitleshGoorah: maybe give some examples. Or if you want, send me > the examples and I will write the mail to f-a-b > when i'll have time i'll do it > EOF > thanks ChitleshGoorah > I'm Croatian Ambassador, and this is my first contact in any > official irc ambassadors channel. > valen1: Welcome! we are all happy to meet you! > thank you > valen1, please follow the protocol > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol > are we done with Ambassadors Membership? > i had an outstanding ! > sorry, kanarip > i remember i had to update the countrylist manually when i joined > the ambassadors, so that isn't representing the numbers exactly. I recall FAS > has some information about the country for each FAS member so maybe we can > check who is where in the 'ambassadors' group using that. EOF > ! > spevack, > In the past 2 days I have sent email to mike mcgrath and toshio > asking if they can help pull data like this from the FAS. I think that it is > probably very easy for them. > * spevack cares a lot about statistics and metrics/ > EOF > +1, or "cool" > anything else? > next, please open Fedora Events > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > ! > * KAM (n=karim_ah at 41.233.44.29) has joined #fedora-meeting > let's start with Linux Solutions, MrTom perhaps > kital, > Material& Material Tracker? > ! > The Generic Poster we decided is designed and i will get Prints on > Truckplane tomorrow so we can see how they will work > so we have that for now > ! > eof > we have kicked the material tracker because there was only a > little feedback about this during the last year > spevack, > MrTom was first... i yield to him > then MrTom, > ok Solutions Linux was a great success. We had the chance to received > the 100 live cds the first morning of the event directly on the booth, thanks > to Gerold reactivity. All the DVDs were sold or given. > ? > we also tried to have contact with Franz Meier, but he was too busy > and we missed him. > eof > spevack, > two things > first > i want everyone here to understand something about budget > at Red Hat > March 1 is the date where we get new budget for the year. > For europe, we have several ideas for this budget -- a few big > shows like LinuxTag and FOSDEM, probably one big FUDCon somewhere in Europe, > etc. > But also we have budget -- about $12,000 per quarter, for the > entire world -- for smaller shows. > So I look at the FedoraEvents page > and I realize that we didn't help with LinuxSolutions at all for > budget. > * valent has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) > but I want to fix problems like that in the future > ! > so i just want you all to know -- we will have much more budget > starting March 1, and now that I am not the overall Fedora Leader anymore, I > am going to be focusing lots of my time on Ambassadors > and events worldwide. > as is Greg DeKoenigsberg > second thing... > MrTom did we sign up any new contributors at LinuxSolutions? > I think it is very important that we try to help new contributors > sign the CLA and get their Fedora account at shows. > EOF > * glezos (n=glezos at fedora/glezos) has joined #fedora-meeting > ! > hi all, sorry I'm late -- was at work > fcrippa, > then MrTom, > I've seen there's a "RedHat Partner Summit" in EMEA this year, very > similar to RH Summit (usa) format > do you think it could be possible to have a "fedora" space into > this event? > fcrippa: I think that Red Hat is planning *something* in Europe > similar to the RH Summit in the USA. And if/when that happens, we will try > to have a Fedora event at the same time. > +1 for helping contributos sing CLA > eof > fcrippa: we are having a FUDCon at the same time as the RH Summit > in USA. > And from now on, we will have a FUDCon at every RH Summit, anywhere > in the world. > http://www.europe.redhat.com/mktg/partnersummit/?sc_cid=547 > EOF > spevack, unfortunately no, most people come here to know what fedora > is, get a cd, and to make criticism (good or bad) of the distro, or to have > a chat with us. eof > * bpepple|lt has quit ("Ex-Chat") > MrTom: ok. > spevack: that's great news > next event: Lolug Pillole at Lodi (formally "Fedora by Night") > fcrippa: This is the first I have heard of the partner summit in > your link... so i don't know if Fedora will be there. But *after* that, we > will definitely have Fedora at all major RH events in Europe (that is my > plan) > EOF > spevack: +1 > * KAM has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) > fcrippa, something about Lolug Pillole at Lodi > ok > Everything should be ready > I've received dvds from spevack some weeks ago > thanks fcrippa > t-shirts and caps (20 items) from spriedshirt last week (with local > "own" budget) > and tomorrow I hope to have mairin posters printed > ! > We've got al least 3 big online italian newspaper that report news > about "fedora by night" > * ldimaggi__ has quit () > eof > spevack, > After March 1 when we have our new budget > I will be happy to pay the costs of several sets of Mairin's > posters to be made for the European ambassadors > * EvilBob (n=bob at fedora/pdpc.sustaining.BobJensen) has joined #Fedora-Meeting > so if fcrippa or kital are making them, i can pay you back in a few > weeks. > one question. > are we translating the posters? > or just english? > EOF > ! > ! > * kital not - because i use it in Brussels Germany and Poland > +1 > fcrippa > just english > in Italian they sound a bit strange... > best results with english version > eof > +1 > spevack: FWIW, I'll translate it for a local event. > rsc, > fabian_a: just the same as kital (and +1 as mentioned) EOF > ok > ? > valen1, > I have a question about budgeting. Does the budget cover some events > that promote fedora but aren't shows? > I have a project in mind that would get quite large media coverage > in Croatian mainstream media and I would like to present it like Red > Hat/Fedora sponsored event. > ! > It would be localisation marathon - we would get 10-15 contributors > to work on translation of Fedora, Gnome and other projects to Croatia. That > would be a great way of promoting Fedora as a distribution for education, > local groverment, etc... > I believe that this would be a really not expensive event. And we > would also like to distribute fedora promo materials on this event that would > be 2 days long. We could do this every month... and we believe that after 2-3 > events we would get local companies to cover the budget. > How does this sound to you? > eof > valen1: I think it sounds very, very interesting. and I would > think that glezos, who is our translation and localization king, could > probably help you out. I am happy to support an activity like that. > I really need to do a longer presentation to all of you about our > budget. > But to explain it in 30 seconds: > there is money set aside specifically for shows and events > but there is also money set aside for localization, and for other > opportunities that we can't forsee but that come up. > valen1: for anything specific to the actual *work* around > localization, i suggest you talk to glezos. For any money needs, I am the > guy to talk to. > EOF > ! > glezos, > valen1: *any* help I can give, just yell. In fact, I'll come private > now or a bit later to make sure you have everything you need. > eof > ok, next event > FOSDEM 2008 > any news? > wiki page: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008 > ! > glezos, > ! > fabian_a: seems we'll be a big bunch of people, yay! > we will :-) > I have scheduled a meeting with the mediawiki guys to talk about > localization, since we're thinking about having it as our wiki solution > And also I'd really like us to sit down and discuss localization, > our tools, community around translations and *everything* around this issue. > So I'll make sure to go around and find a slot of 1-2 hours to > properly cover everything, so that I'll make sure you have what you need for > getting the word out to any local group/language > eof > hold on guys i gotta jump irc servers the one i'm connected to is > going down for maintainance > * ChitleshGoorah now confirms his presence at FOSDEM :) but will return early > * kanarip has quit (Remote closed the connection) > * kanarip (n=kanarip at vito.kanarip.com) has joined #fedora-meeting > kital, > * kital will bring "older" OLPC from Max, will bring the Posters - and the > Fedora Ambassador Polos which are ordered and will arrive in time > eof > * spevack is trying to get some new OLPC in time for LinuxTag > * ChitleshGoorah will bring a KDE4 on a laptop + FEL applications :) > * glezos will bring a Tux poster 3m high :P > anything else about FOSDEM? > ! > * jnash2001 (n=jnash200 at unaffiliated/jnash2001) has joined #fedora-meeting > red_alert, > ! > I just got message from the linuxtag organizers...they'll attend > FOSDEM (and some other european events in the next some weeks) too...maybe a > good chance to clear some things in person where necessary > eof > MrTom, > french people should normaly bring 100 Fedora badges, this is an > exprimental order from us. > we don't know if we'll got them on time > eof > thanks, MrTom and red_alert > next event: Chemnitzer LinuxTage 2008 > ! > kital, > Booth is allocated > http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2008/live/detail.html?idx=133 > * stickster is now known as stickster_afk > ! > special Poster generated http://jsimon.fedorapeople.org/clt2.pdf > * kital and rsc, JensKuehnel DanielKretzschmer are Ambassadors off duty > eof > * ChitleshGoorah motivates ambassadors to go to chemnitz, their social party > is great :) > thanks, kital > next will be OpenExpo 2008 Berne > ! > spevack, > if either fabian_a or kital need some budget to help make your > events more successful, I can give you that after March 1. Let me know. > * stickster_afk is now known as stickster > eof > thanks, spevack. so far we have Live CDs from GeroldKa and some > posters from last year. maybe a text-banner too > * kital has noticed > * _blah_ (n=rob at rXm-581b.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) has left #fedora-meeting > i want to discuss the rest during fosdem because kital is there, > too > next: LinuxTag > there was a offline meeting at the begin of february > * rahul_b has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) > * No5251 (n=No5251 at dslb-084-057-206-042.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined > #fedora-meeting > * No5251 has quit (Client Quit) > * No5251 (n=No5251 at dslb-084-057-206-042.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined > #fedora-meeting > check out > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/FLTT if you > want to help > anything else about Fedora Events? > (Thumbs-up for organizing stuff in the open, on the wiki!) > ! > spevack, > I have one quick question > i notice that there are lots of EMEA events in Feb, Mar, Apr, May. > After linux tag > the EventsList for Europe drops off a lot > are there no other events, or are they just not on the list yet? > eof > ! > rsc, > AFAIK there are nearly less to no bigger events. Correct me, if I'm > wrong. > EOF > ! > kital, > Froscon, Fr?hjahrsfachgespr?ch are the only - i know > eof > froscon is already on the list > * JSchmitt (n=s4504kr at p54B13327.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined > #fedora-meeting > ! > fcrippa, > In Italy will be "Linux Day" > well, then the less busy time will be a good time to try to > organize a Europe FUDCon ;) > more then 100 small event in the same moment > one for each italian cities > last year ubuntu dominated dvd distribution... > * jmbuser (n=jmbuser at 195.229.24.83) has joined #fedora-meeting > so I hope this year also fedora can participate to dvd war.. > spevack: definitely! Distances are small here, so we could get a lot > of people together more easily. > eof > (linux day should be last week of october) > ? > spevack: +1 > valen1, > Will there be a full text copy of this meeting - if it will - where > and when? > glezos please contact me offline because I have to go now. My email > is valent.turkovic at gmail.com because I have lots of localization questions. > Thank you all and bye. > eof > valen1: will do! > more issues about events? > there's an event called "HCC dagen" with about 120.000 visitors in > Oct/Nov in the Netherlands > ! > kanarip: add it! :) > please add all events to > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > red_alert, > * valen1 has quit ("Leaving.") > I know that FrOSCon is taking place no earlier than august...but > just to check, is there someone feeling responsible for that event? they > should add themselves to the FedoraEvents page > eof > next topic: NPO > kanarip please > ok > i've sent the latest draft of the NPO statutes to the mailing list, > incorporating some of the comments made on the first draft > Gerold indicates that the financial department in Germany still > needs to "OK" the first draft and that is just to indicate there are no > fundamental problems -nothing official about their answer- > We've set up a page where you can self-nominate if you would want > to run for board and the law requires a minimum of 4 people on the board, and > so far 4 people have nominated themselves > ! > note that amongst those 4 is MaxSpevack, who regretably will not be > able to attend FOSDEM and can therefore not be elected :/ > :( > again, that's a requirement by law and not something we made up on > the spot < sorry max :/ > kanarip: but i will someday stage a coup! ;) > you will i'm sure i'll be watching you ;-) > kanarip: it's ok. I even noted that on the page > * spot ponders a coup > so far, so good, gerold and i have been thinking about postponing > the foundation if there is 1) not enough candidates for board, or 2) if the > ambassadors think max should be there when it all goes down > There was a parol "OK" by a German financial department for the first > draft (?), but nothing in written form, yet -- EOF (fabian_a, you're to slow) > 3) whatever other reason you can think of... fill us in > any questions? > * MrTom has quit ("Fedora: Would you run anything else?") > now it's up to rsc :-) > there is an opportunity on the table to motion... i'll ask again, > any questions? > ? > red_alert, > kanarip: FWIW, I'm planning on nominate for the board as well > spot: i called dibs on the coup, but you can be my minion if you > like ;) > no-one wants to suggest postponing and make a motion to do so? > red_alert, there's your answer i guess ;-) > * stickster has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) > we could still have a general member meeting at linuxtag in > berlin in order to give more members to be voted into the board that can't go > to FOSDEM, right? of course we still need 4 nominees at FOSDEM > * tw2113 (n=tw2113 at host-94-134-2-96.midco.net) has left #fedora-meeting ("IRC > is just multiplayer notepad") > spevack: yes, but i will be at fosdem. muahaa! > * spevack shakes his fist > oh...eof > red_alert, maybe we could i'll have to clear that up with Gerold > fabian_a, i guess there's no more questions or comments so we can > continue ;-) > EOF > kanarip: +1 / red_alert: -1 > thanks, kanarip > the stage is open > rsc, +1 to what exactly? > Here is presentation I did for Fedora Electronic Lab, > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/fel-fabless-solutions.pdf , please pass > it on to those you may know who might interested. I talked about where FEL > applications can be used and how academic institutions might take advantage > of it. > eof > * stickster (n=pfrields at ip72-209-237-99.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined > #fedora-meeting > anything else? > * DanseMakabre (i=pat at bobo.ds5.agh.edu.pl) has joined #fedora-meeting > apparently not > ok > kanarip: communication with Gerold about this/doing it still on FOSDEM > 5 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 1 > Fedora Ambassadors Meeting EMEA 2008-02-13 has been adjourned. > Next meeting in March 2008. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From fab at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 13 22:23:18 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:23:18 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors Meeting EMEA - IRC Log 2008-02-13 In-Reply-To: References: <47B36712.7060809@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47B36DD6.5070804@fedoraproject.org> Max Spevack wrote: > Does someone want to run this through one of those nice irc to html > generators or something for the wiki? done, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-02-13/HTML_Log From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Feb 13 23:53:03 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:53:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors Meeting EMEA - IRC Log 2008-02-13 In-Reply-To: <47B36DD6.5070804@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B36712.7060809@fedoraproject.org> <47B36DD6.5070804@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Fabian Affolter wrote: > done, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-02-13/HTML_Log Fabian, Thank you for running today's meeting. It was a long, but I think very useful conversation. --Max From dapidc at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 03:43:19 2008 From: dapidc at gmail.com (Dapid Candra) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:43:19 +0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linux Distribution Chooser In-Reply-To: <11204d710802131011p63a26901vb43c1a86e830c3a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <1202899637.2735.0.camel@caleuche> <47B31A82.6050608@yahoo.com.br> <11204d710802131011p63a26901vb43c1a86e830c3a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1cf035e60802131943h1e19bdcdi42574ef2bc1894bd@mail.gmail.com> Weird result, I got Gentoo and Slackware. I never user Gentoo and I used Slackware long long long time ago Rgds, dC 2008/2/14 Wael AMMAR : > Funny web site :) > > me too I got : > 1- Fedora > 2- Mandriva > 3- OpenSuse > > Cheers, > > -- > Wael Ammar (TheCyberXP) > Tunisian Fedora Ambassador > Vice President Club FreeWays > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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PLEASE, if you?ll participate at Linuxtag and you want to have a romm (organized by the Fedora LinuxtagTeam) you have to fill in your request until END OF THIS WEEK (2008-02-16) at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/Rooms because (once again): - WE have no possibility to get a stay in a hotel for 30 persons at a bunch right now - THERE is another fair starting 2008-05-27 http://www.ila-berlin.de/ila2008/home/index.cfm - THERE is RIGHT NOW no additional contingent for hotel-rooms in a range which is comfortable for us (between EUR 50 and EUR 100 per night and person) As mentioned in many, many mails befor, RH will try to help us with the costs, but we have to pay also from our own pocket. So this is (my) last call for sign up (if you haven?t done before! regards Gerold From gerold at lugd.org Thu Feb 14 11:54:12 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:54:12 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora NPO Message-ID: <1977.62.2.77.2.1202990052.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Hello Ambassador World, as you might have read, Jeroen and me are trying to found a Non-profit-Organisation (aka NPO) for Europe and we want to found this FEDORA EMEA entity @ FOSDEM ... In the past few days I have to answer a lot of questions because it seems that we haven?t done our homework very well to announce, explain and answer the questions of everybody of you ... So what shall we do right now? Shall we postpone the founding and use the FOSDEM as a Q&A event from our side? Should we found this NPO? BTW: Let me explain a few things about thinking about that NPO: We (Jeroen and me and a lot of other Ambassador attending the FAD EMEA 2007) thought we found this NPO in GERMANY (depends on German Law) BECAUSE I personaly founded such a NPO, "my" local LinuxUser Group Loerrach. This NPO -in which I hold the chair at the moment- is acknoledged by German law to spend tax reductable donation receipts (for companys, members, everyone) ... Back to the basics (of that German law of founding) ... First you need to be seven legal persons who are willing to found such a NPO. Second, you need to meet face-to-face. Third, ONLY people from THIS foundational meeting are allowed to - accept and vote for the statutes - elect the BOARD of the NPO who much attend that meeting in person FOURTH, In the statutes who are in German, you give the frame of your entity and its Goals, Amount of Board, membership fee and so on. That?s I hope are all dependencies who must be fullfilled to 100% ... Any comments? Ideas? Doubts? Let me/us know! Gerold From nayyares at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 13:46:48 2008 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:46:48 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora NPO In-Reply-To: <1977.62.2.77.2.1202990052.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <1977.62.2.77.2.1202990052.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30802140546y33e66da2p49ec9158b9cdbc71@mail.gmail.com> Hi Gerold, On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Gerold wrote: > Hello Ambassador World, > > > as you might have read, Jeroen and me are trying to found a > Non-profit-Organisation (aka NPO) for Europe and we want to found this I wounder this NPO will cover only Europe or EMEA? > > FEDORA EMEA entity @ FOSDEM ... > > In the past few days I have to answer a lot of questions because it seems > that we haven?t done our homework very well to announce, explain and > answer the questions of everybody of you ... > > So what shall we do right now? Shall we postpone the founding and use the > FOSDEM as a Q&A event from our side? Should we found this NPO? > > BTW: Let me explain a few things about thinking about that NPO: > We (Jeroen and me and a lot of other Ambassador attending the FAD EMEA > 2007) thought we found this NPO in GERMANY (depends on German Law) BECAUSE > I personaly founded such a NPO, "my" local LinuxUser Group Loerrach. This > NPO -in which I hold the chair at the moment- is acknoledged by German law > to spend tax reductable donation receipts (for companys, members, > everyone) ... > Back to the basics (of that German law of founding) ... > First you need to be seven legal persons who are willing to found such a > NPO. this legal means Germany National? > > Second, you need to meet face-to-face. then they need to be from same part of the world.. btw, how often they need to see each other? > > Third, ONLY people from THIS foundational meeting are allowed to > - accept and vote for the statutes > - elect the BOARD of the NPO who much attend that meeting in person no doubt..! > > FOURTH, In the statutes who are in German, you give the frame of your > entity and its Goals, Amount of Board, membership fee and so on. > That?s I hope are all dependencies who must be fullfilled to 100% ... is there any restriction on taking membership, specially for outside German territory people? > > > Any comments? Ideas? Doubts? > > Let me/us know! I hope we would be able to form NPO soon, it is for sure a big task & will become a milestone for Fedora Project EMEA. Thanks > > > > Gerold > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerold at lugd.org Thu Feb 14 14:00:47 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:00:47 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora NPO In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30802140546y33e66da2p49ec9158b9cdbc71@mail.gmail.com> References: <1977.62.2.77.2.1202990052.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <8e1ee2a30802140546y33e66da2p49ec9158b9cdbc71@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2340.62.2.77.2.1202997647.squirrel@www.gbc.net> >> as you might have read, Jeroen and me are trying to found a >> Non-profit-Organisation (aka NPO) for Europe and we want to found this > > I wounder this NPO will cover only Europe or EMEA? ^^ Sorry for the type-mismatch ... WE want to cover as large as we can and if we can cover the whole world, we`ll do so! You?re completly right .... In the first thought and the main goal is to cover EMEA; not only Europe. EMEA means Europe, Middle East and Africa ... ... >> Back to the basics (of that German law of founding) ... >> First you need to be seven legal persons who are willing to found such a >> NPO. > this legal means Germany National? ^^ NO, and also verified(!) Depends on no nationality and also not the place where you found. Only the NPO must be listed in Germany at a court which is responsible for the NPO ... >> - elect the BOARD of the NPO who much attend that meeting in person > > no doubt..! ^^ :-) Thank you! >> That?s I hope are all dependencies who must be fullfilled to 100% ... > > > is there any restriction on taking membership, specially for outside > German > territory people? ^^ NO! see above! > I hope we would be able to form NPO soon, it is for sure a big task & will > become a milestone for Fedora Project EMEA. > ^^ Also imho too :-) Regards Gerold From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Feb 14 15:25:34 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:25:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] last chance -- LinuxTag hotel Message-ID: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/Rooms Deadline is Feb. 16. --Max From kanarip at kanarip.com Thu Feb 14 15:41:12 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:41:12 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] last chance -- LinuxTag hotel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47B46118.3000309@kanarip.com> Max Spevack wrote: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/Rooms > > Deadline is Feb. 16. > I added a relatively new contributor, a colleague of mine, who is awaiting Edit Wiki permissions. Thanks! Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen From lnxknight at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 17:52:12 2008 From: lnxknight at gmail.com (Matt McKenzie) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:52:12 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linux Distribution Chooser In-Reply-To: <9ef639d90802132007y75dbf504u824bc2b2d1bb3c4c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1202899637.2735.0.camel@caleuche> <47B31A82.6050608@yahoo.com.br> <11204d710802131011p63a26901vb43c1a86e830c3a5@mail.gmail.com> <1cf035e60802131943h1e19bdcdi42574ef2bc1894bd@mail.gmail.com> <9ef639d90802132007y75dbf504u824bc2b2d1bb3c4c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I got Fedora, OpenSuSE, and Mandriva. I think the questions need to be tweaked a bit on that test, it seems like it tends to lump the distros together into "camps" and a few questions would seem to put you into one camp or another. I.E. the RPM camp (Fedora, SuSE, Mandriva), the DEB camp (Ubuntu, Debian, Xandros, etc), and the TAR/Source camp (Gentoo, Slackware, LFS, etc). I have used RedHat since RH6.0 days, and all the Fedora versions. I also use Debian and Ubuntu. I have tinkered with SuSE and Mandrake/Mandriva, Gentoo, Slack, etc. But my main distros are Fedora and Ubuntu. This test doesn't seem to allow for "mixed camp" like that. 2008/2/13 : > I got Gentoo too. I have always used fedora :) > > -Ravi > > 2008/2/14 Dapid Candra : > > Weird result, I got Gentoo and Slackware. > > > > I never user Gentoo and I used Slackware long long long time ago > > > > Rgds, > > > > dC > > > > 2008/2/14 Wael AMMAR : > > > > > Funny web site :) > > > > > > me too I got : > > > 1- Fedora > > > 2- Mandriva > > > 3- OpenSuse > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > -- > > > Wael Ammar (TheCyberXP) > > > Tunisian Fedora Ambassador > > > Vice President Club FreeWays > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > -- > Ravi Sagar > ravisagar.in > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- ---------- Matt M. 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The other solution would be to have it from when we register or ask to become an ambassador, but then what about people that move around ? > And if we can't automate it, what is the manual process that we need to > go through to at least make it up to date? I join the previous answer there... ask everyone to have a look at it sometime... P.Yves From rau_a at web.de Thu Feb 14 17:37:23 2008 From: rau_a at web.de (Andreas Rau) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:37:23 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors Meeting EMEA - IRC Log 2008-02-13 In-Reply-To: References: <47B36712.7060809@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1203010643.3198.7.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> Hi Max, Hi to ALL, Max, I am with you by the mind of holding a special meeting regarding LINUXTAG. By the way - sorry for missing the meeting - had no connection to the net kind regards, Andi R Am Mittwoch, den 13.02.2008, 16:58 -0500 schrieb Max Spevack: > Does someone want to run this through one of those nice irc to html > generators or something for the wiki? > > thanks, > Max > > On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Fabian Affolter wrote: > > > let's have monthly Fedora Ambassadors Meeting for EMEA > > Please state your wiki name please (aka roll call). > > MaxSpevack > > SandroMathys > > FrancescoCrippa > > * kital (n=Joerg_Si at fedora/kital) has joined #fedora-meeting > > FabianAffolter > > AndreasRau told me he regrets to not be able to be here > > * spevack thought this meeting was every week.. it's only once a month? > > is GeroldKa here? > > yes, only once a month > > JoergSimon <- late > > where are all the other ambassadors? > > are we going to cancel this meeting because we are only 5 people? > > wait a view minutes > > * ChitleshGoorah (n=chitlesh at 77.206.229.202) has joined #fedora-meeting > > i have a few questions i'd like to ask, while we at least have a > > few people here. > > hi ChitleshGoorah! > > oh > > RobertScheck > > hai spevack > > ChitleshGoorah > > spevack: go a head > > fabian_a: there was no reminder AFAIK > > if Andreas hadn't told me he's not attending the meeting like 40 > > minutes ago...I'd have missed it too :/ > > rsc: there was a reminder on monday > > Well, I wanted to see if everything is ready for FOSDEM -- if there > > is anything else people need. > > * MrTom (n=mrtom at fedora/MrTom) has joined #fedora-meeting > > * ChitleshGoorah now confirms his presence at FOSDEM :) > > fabian_a: between Monday and today were worlds for me, sorry. > > but stays only up to 12h on sunday > > And second, I wanted to know if there is a separate meeting for the > > LinuxTag planning, or if we talk about that here. > > spevack: it is likely, that a second real-life meeting for LinuxTag > > will bring more results - just FYI > > Gerold mentioned such a second meeting vaguely in the past > > (of course, we can talk about everything here as well) > > spevack, right now there is only the mailing list. there is no > > further meeting planned so far > > fabian_a: can I get added to that mailing list (mspevack at > > redhat.com) for LinuxTag planning? > > I placed an order last week for 1,000 Fedora stickers and 200 > > Fedora tshirts... almost all of that will be for LinuxTag > > spevack, i will take care about that > > we will make more swag than that later, but I wanted to order this > > stuff early because we had some extra money. > > ! > > kital: > > should we make a second RoleCall ? and start the meeting? > > sure > > do it! eof > > please state your wiki name and start with the meeting > > once again > > JeroenVanMeeuwen > > FabianAffolter > > JoergSimon > > FrancescoCrippa > > ChitleshGoorah: > > * tw2113 (n=tw2113 at host-94-134-2-96.midco.net) has joined #fedora-meeting > > MaxSpevack > > SandroMathys > > as I said before, AndreasRau regrets to not be able to attend > > RobertScheck > > ThomasCanniot > > Just the normal reminder. We'll still follow our meeting protocol > > to make this meeting quick and efficient. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol > > MichaelBeckwith > > open our meeting page at > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-02-13 if you like > > * valent (n=valentt at dh207-62-20.xnet.hr) has joined #fedora-meeting > > * DanseMakabre has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) > > 1. Report current status of FAmSCo > > * Josh_Borke (n=jk275 at WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) has left > > #fedora-meeting > > fugolini is not present. skip this... > > next topic: Ambassadors Membership > > As of 2008-02-11, 305 Ambassadors have been verified (signed CLA > > and joined 'ambassadors' group) > > ! > > spevack: > > ! > > do we know how many of those 305 are new since last month? And do > > we know how many of those 305 are in EMEA specifically? > > eof > > i guess not but there are ways to register the new ambassadors > > every month > > i think that it is very important > > to not only have the *total* number of ambassadors > > but also to know the growth each month, and the regions where that > > growth is happening. > > That is the sort of data that is very useful to Fedora Board and > > Red Hat in securing budget for Ambassadors. > > they can separate by countries -> > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Count > > +1 > > the time i spent in europe last year was very useful for this > > and we have more money for Ambassadors in general -- all over the > > world -- because we saw how strong Europe was, and we also know that South > > America is very strong. > > and now Greg and I will be focusing much more on those two regions > > in the coming year than in the past. > > So it will be up to the local groups -- and also FAMSCO -- to > > continue to provide folks like me with the data that we need to get budget. > > EOF -- sorry to ramble > > * valen1 (n=valentt at dh207-61-67.xnet.hr) has joined #fedora-meeting > > ! > > i will collect this data. like for the fad 2007 at berlin > > ChitleshGoorah, > > talking about CLA, I have noticed some contributors > > (packagers mostly) are using fake names rather than real names. this is > > mostly a fedora advisory board issue, but its worth that everyone knows this > > issue so that we can little by little prevent such things: _eoc_ > > is this the channel for EMEA meeting? sorry for being late... > > * rdieter has quit (Remote closed the connection) > > tehnical issues because I'm not connecting from home > > valen1: this is the right place :) > > ChitleshGoorah: can you send a mail to f-a-b about that? and then > > they can take care of it (hopefully). > > ChitleshGoorah: maybe give some examples. Or if you want, send me > > the examples and I will write the mail to f-a-b > > when i'll have time i'll do it > > EOF > > thanks ChitleshGoorah > > I'm Croatian Ambassador, and this is my first contact in any > > official irc ambassadors channel. > > valen1: Welcome! we are all happy to meet you! > > thank you > > valen1, please follow the protocol > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol > > are we done with Ambassadors Membership? > > i had an outstanding ! > > sorry, kanarip > > i remember i had to update the countrylist manually when i joined > > the ambassadors, so that isn't representing the numbers exactly. I recall FAS > > has some information about the country for each FAS member so maybe we can > > check who is where in the 'ambassadors' group using that. EOF > > ! > > spevack, > > In the past 2 days I have sent email to mike mcgrath and toshio > > asking if they can help pull data like this from the FAS. I think that it is > > probably very easy for them. > > * spevack cares a lot about statistics and metrics/ > > EOF > > +1, or "cool" > > anything else? > > next, please open Fedora Events > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > > ! > > * KAM (n=karim_ah at 41.233.44.29) has joined #fedora-meeting > > let's start with Linux Solutions, MrTom perhaps > > kital, > > Material& Material Tracker? > > ! > > The Generic Poster we decided is designed and i will get Prints on > > Truckplane tomorrow so we can see how they will work > > so we have that for now > > ! > > eof > > we have kicked the material tracker because there was only a > > little feedback about this during the last year > > spevack, > > MrTom was first... i yield to him > > then MrTom, > > ok Solutions Linux was a great success. We had the chance to received > > the 100 live cds the first morning of the event directly on the booth, thanks > > to Gerold reactivity. All the DVDs were sold or given. > > ? > > we also tried to have contact with Franz Meier, but he was too busy > > and we missed him. > > eof > > spevack, > > two things > > first > > i want everyone here to understand something about budget > > at Red Hat > > March 1 is the date where we get new budget for the year. > > For europe, we have several ideas for this budget -- a few big > > shows like LinuxTag and FOSDEM, probably one big FUDCon somewhere in Europe, > > etc. > > But also we have budget -- about $12,000 per quarter, for the > > entire world -- for smaller shows. > > So I look at the FedoraEvents page > > and I realize that we didn't help with LinuxSolutions at all for > > budget. > > * valent has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) > > but I want to fix problems like that in the future > > ! > > so i just want you all to know -- we will have much more budget > > starting March 1, and now that I am not the overall Fedora Leader anymore, I > > am going to be focusing lots of my time on Ambassadors > > and events worldwide. > > as is Greg DeKoenigsberg > > second thing... > > MrTom did we sign up any new contributors at LinuxSolutions? > > I think it is very important that we try to help new contributors > > sign the CLA and get their Fedora account at shows. > > EOF > > * glezos (n=glezos at fedora/glezos) has joined #fedora-meeting > > ! > > hi all, sorry I'm late -- was at work > > fcrippa, > > then MrTom, > > I've seen there's a "RedHat Partner Summit" in EMEA this year, very > > similar to RH Summit (usa) format > > do you think it could be possible to have a "fedora" space into > > this event? > > fcrippa: I think that Red Hat is planning *something* in Europe > > similar to the RH Summit in the USA. And if/when that happens, we will try > > to have a Fedora event at the same time. > > +1 for helping contributos sing CLA > > eof > > fcrippa: we are having a FUDCon at the same time as the RH Summit > > in USA. > > And from now on, we will have a FUDCon at every RH Summit, anywhere > > in the world. > > http://www.europe.redhat.com/mktg/partnersummit/?sc_cid=547 > > EOF > > spevack, unfortunately no, most people come here to know what fedora > > is, get a cd, and to make criticism (good or bad) of the distro, or to have > > a chat with us. eof > > * bpepple|lt has quit ("Ex-Chat") > > MrTom: ok. > > spevack: that's great news > > next event: Lolug Pillole at Lodi (formally "Fedora by Night") > > fcrippa: This is the first I have heard of the partner summit in > > your link... so i don't know if Fedora will be there. But *after* that, we > > will definitely have Fedora at all major RH events in Europe (that is my > > plan) > > EOF > > spevack: +1 > > * KAM has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) > > fcrippa, something about Lolug Pillole at Lodi > > ok > > Everything should be ready > > I've received dvds from spevack some weeks ago > > thanks fcrippa > > t-shirts and caps (20 items) from spriedshirt last week (with local > > "own" budget) > > and tomorrow I hope to have mairin posters printed > > ! > > We've got al least 3 big online italian newspaper that report news > > about "fedora by night" > > * ldimaggi__ has quit () > > eof > > spevack, > > After March 1 when we have our new budget > > I will be happy to pay the costs of several sets of Mairin's > > posters to be made for the European ambassadors > > * EvilBob (n=bob at fedora/pdpc.sustaining.BobJensen) has joined #Fedora-Meeting > > so if fcrippa or kital are making them, i can pay you back in a few > > weeks. > > one question. > > are we translating the posters? > > or just english? > > EOF > > ! > > ! > > * kital not - because i use it in Brussels Germany and Poland > > +1 > > fcrippa > > just english > > in Italian they sound a bit strange... > > best results with english version > > eof > > +1 > > spevack: FWIW, I'll translate it for a local event. > > rsc, > > fabian_a: just the same as kital (and +1 as mentioned) EOF > > ok > > ? > > valen1, > > I have a question about budgeting. Does the budget cover some events > > that promote fedora but aren't shows? > > I have a project in mind that would get quite large media coverage > > in Croatian mainstream media and I would like to present it like Red > > Hat/Fedora sponsored event. > > ! > > It would be localisation marathon - we would get 10-15 contributors > > to work on translation of Fedora, Gnome and other projects to Croatia. That > > would be a great way of promoting Fedora as a distribution for education, > > local groverment, etc... > > I believe that this would be a really not expensive event. And we > > would also like to distribute fedora promo materials on this event that would > > be 2 days long. We could do this every month... and we believe that after 2-3 > > events we would get local companies to cover the budget. > > How does this sound to you? > > eof > > valen1: I think it sounds very, very interesting. and I would > > think that glezos, who is our translation and localization king, could > > probably help you out. I am happy to support an activity like that. > > I really need to do a longer presentation to all of you about our > > budget. > > But to explain it in 30 seconds: > > there is money set aside specifically for shows and events > > but there is also money set aside for localization, and for other > > opportunities that we can't forsee but that come up. > > valen1: for anything specific to the actual *work* around > > localization, i suggest you talk to glezos. For any money needs, I am the > > guy to talk to. > > EOF > > ! > > glezos, > > valen1: *any* help I can give, just yell. In fact, I'll come private > > now or a bit later to make sure you have everything you need. > > eof > > ok, next event > > FOSDEM 2008 > > any news? > > wiki page: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008 > > ! > > glezos, > > ! > > fabian_a: seems we'll be a big bunch of people, yay! > > we will :-) > > I have scheduled a meeting with the mediawiki guys to talk about > > localization, since we're thinking about having it as our wiki solution > > And also I'd really like us to sit down and discuss localization, > > our tools, community around translations and *everything* around this issue. > > So I'll make sure to go around and find a slot of 1-2 hours to > > properly cover everything, so that I'll make sure you have what you need for > > getting the word out to any local group/language > > eof > > hold on guys i gotta jump irc servers the one i'm connected to is > > going down for maintainance > > * ChitleshGoorah now confirms his presence at FOSDEM :) but will return early > > * kanarip has quit (Remote closed the connection) > > * kanarip (n=kanarip at vito.kanarip.com) has joined #fedora-meeting > > kital, > > * kital will bring "older" OLPC from Max, will bring the Posters - and the > > Fedora Ambassador Polos which are ordered and will arrive in time > > eof > > * spevack is trying to get some new OLPC in time for LinuxTag > > * ChitleshGoorah will bring a KDE4 on a laptop + FEL applications :) > > * glezos will bring a Tux poster 3m high :P > > anything else about FOSDEM? > > ! > > * jnash2001 (n=jnash200 at unaffiliated/jnash2001) has joined #fedora-meeting > > red_alert, > > ! > > I just got message from the linuxtag organizers...they'll attend > > FOSDEM (and some other european events in the next some weeks) too...maybe a > > good chance to clear some things in person where necessary > > eof > > MrTom, > > french people should normaly bring 100 Fedora badges, this is an > > exprimental order from us. > > we don't know if we'll got them on time > > eof > > thanks, MrTom and red_alert > > next event: Chemnitzer LinuxTage 2008 > > ! > > kital, > > Booth is allocated > > http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2008/live/detail.html?idx=133 > > * stickster is now known as stickster_afk > > ! > > special Poster generated http://jsimon.fedorapeople.org/clt2.pdf > > * kital and rsc, JensKuehnel DanielKretzschmer are Ambassadors off duty > > eof > > * ChitleshGoorah motivates ambassadors to go to chemnitz, their social party > > is great :) > > thanks, kital > > next will be OpenExpo 2008 Berne > > ! > > spevack, > > if either fabian_a or kital need some budget to help make your > > events more successful, I can give you that after March 1. Let me know. > > * stickster_afk is now known as stickster > > eof > > thanks, spevack. so far we have Live CDs from GeroldKa and some > > posters from last year. maybe a text-banner too > > * kital has noticed > > * _blah_ (n=rob at rXm-581b.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) has left #fedora-meeting > > i want to discuss the rest during fosdem because kital is there, > > too > > next: LinuxTag > > there was a offline meeting at the begin of february > > * rahul_b has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) > > * No5251 (n=No5251 at dslb-084-057-206-042.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined > > #fedora-meeting > > * No5251 has quit (Client Quit) > > * No5251 (n=No5251 at dslb-084-057-206-042.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined > > #fedora-meeting > > check out > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/FLTT if you > > want to help > > anything else about Fedora Events? > > (Thumbs-up for organizing stuff in the open, on the wiki!) > > ! > > spevack, > > I have one quick question > > i notice that there are lots of EMEA events in Feb, Mar, Apr, May. > > After linux tag > > the EventsList for Europe drops off a lot > > are there no other events, or are they just not on the list yet? > > eof > > ! > > rsc, > > AFAIK there are nearly less to no bigger events. Correct me, if I'm > > wrong. > > EOF > > ! > > kital, > > Froscon, Fr?hjahrsfachgespr?ch are the only - i know > > eof > > froscon is already on the list > > * JSchmitt (n=s4504kr at p54B13327.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined > > #fedora-meeting > > ! > > fcrippa, > > In Italy will be "Linux Day" > > well, then the less busy time will be a good time to try to > > organize a Europe FUDCon ;) > > more then 100 small event in the same moment > > one for each italian cities > > last year ubuntu dominated dvd distribution... > > * jmbuser (n=jmbuser at 195.229.24.83) has joined #fedora-meeting > > so I hope this year also fedora can participate to dvd war.. > > spevack: definitely! Distances are small here, so we could get a lot > > of people together more easily. > > eof > > (linux day should be last week of october) > > ? > > spevack: +1 > > valen1, > > Will there be a full text copy of this meeting - if it will - where > > and when? > > glezos please contact me offline because I have to go now. My email > > is valent.turkovic at gmail.com because I have lots of localization questions. > > Thank you all and bye. > > eof > > valen1: will do! > > more issues about events? > > there's an event called "HCC dagen" with about 120.000 visitors in > > Oct/Nov in the Netherlands > > ! > > kanarip: add it! :) > > please add all events to > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > > red_alert, > > * valen1 has quit ("Leaving.") > > I know that FrOSCon is taking place no earlier than august...but > > just to check, is there someone feeling responsible for that event? they > > should add themselves to the FedoraEvents page > > eof > > next topic: NPO > > kanarip please > > ok > > i've sent the latest draft of the NPO statutes to the mailing list, > > incorporating some of the comments made on the first draft > > Gerold indicates that the financial department in Germany still > > needs to "OK" the first draft and that is just to indicate there are no > > fundamental problems -nothing official about their answer- > > We've set up a page where you can self-nominate if you would want > > to run for board and the law requires a minimum of 4 people on the board, and > > so far 4 people have nominated themselves > > ! > > note that amongst those 4 is MaxSpevack, who regretably will not be > > able to attend FOSDEM and can therefore not be elected :/ > > :( > > again, that's a requirement by law and not something we made up on > > the spot < sorry max :/ > > kanarip: but i will someday stage a coup! ;) > > you will i'm sure i'll be watching you ;-) > > kanarip: it's ok. I even noted that on the page > > * spot ponders a coup > > so far, so good, gerold and i have been thinking about postponing > > the foundation if there is 1) not enough candidates for board, or 2) if the > > ambassadors think max should be there when it all goes down > > There was a parol "OK" by a German financial department for the first > > draft (?), but nothing in written form, yet -- EOF (fabian_a, you're to slow) > > 3) whatever other reason you can think of... fill us in > > any questions? > > * MrTom has quit ("Fedora: Would you run anything else?") > > now it's up to rsc :-) > > there is an opportunity on the table to motion... i'll ask again, > > any questions? > > ? > > red_alert, > > kanarip: FWIW, I'm planning on nominate for the board as well > > spot: i called dibs on the coup, but you can be my minion if you > > like ;) > > no-one wants to suggest postponing and make a motion to do so? > > red_alert, there's your answer i guess ;-) > > * stickster has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) > > we could still have a general member meeting at linuxtag in > > berlin in order to give more members to be voted into the board that can't go > > to FOSDEM, right? of course we still need 4 nominees at FOSDEM > > * tw2113 (n=tw2113 at host-94-134-2-96.midco.net) has left #fedora-meeting ("IRC > > is just multiplayer notepad") > > spevack: yes, but i will be at fosdem. muahaa! > > * spevack shakes his fist > > oh...eof > > red_alert, maybe we could i'll have to clear that up with Gerold > > fabian_a, i guess there's no more questions or comments so we can > > continue ;-) > > EOF > > kanarip: +1 / red_alert: -1 > > thanks, kanarip > > the stage is open > > rsc, +1 to what exactly? > > Here is presentation I did for Fedora Electronic Lab, > > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/fel-fabless-solutions.pdf , please pass > > it on to those you may know who might interested. I talked about where FEL > > applications can be used and how academic institutions might take advantage > > of it. > > eof > > * stickster (n=pfrields at ip72-209-237-99.dc.dc.cox.net) has joined > > #fedora-meeting > > anything else? > > * DanseMakabre (i=pat at bobo.ds5.agh.edu.pl) has joined #fedora-meeting > > apparently not > > ok > > kanarip: communication with Gerold about this/doing it still on FOSDEM > > 5 > > 4 > > 3 > > 2 > > 1 > > Fedora Ambassadors Meeting EMEA 2008-02-13 has been adjourned. > > Next meeting in March 2008. > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From rau_a at web.de Thu Feb 14 18:02:51 2008 From: rau_a at web.de (Andreas Rau) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:02:51 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora NPO In-Reply-To: <1977.62.2.77.2.1202990052.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <1977.62.2.77.2.1202990052.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <1203012171.3198.34.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> Hi Gerold, Hi Ambassadors, - Shall we postpone the founding and use the FOSDEM as a Q&A event from our side? +1 I think it is important that everyone knows about this. Ambassadors need answers and we need the acceptance - - Should we found this NPO? +1 of course, we will need an alternative way for finance in the future Kind regards, Andi Rau Am Donnerstag, den 14.02.2008, 12:54 +0100 schrieb Gerold: > Hello Ambassador World, > > as you might have read, Jeroen and me are trying to found a > Non-profit-Organisation (aka NPO) for Europe and we want to found this > FEDORA EMEA entity @ FOSDEM ... > > In the past few days I have to answer a lot of questions because it seems > that we haven?t done our homework very well to announce, explain and > answer the questions of everybody of you ... > > So what shall we do right now? Shall we postpone the founding and use the > FOSDEM as a Q&A event from our side? Should we found this NPO? > > BTW: Let me explain a few things about thinking about that NPO: > We (Jeroen and me and a lot of other Ambassador attending the FAD EMEA > 2007) thought we found this NPO in GERMANY (depends on German Law) BECAUSE > I personaly founded such a NPO, "my" local LinuxUser Group Loerrach. This > NPO -in which I hold the chair at the moment- is acknoledged by German law > to spend tax reductable donation receipts (for companys, members, > everyone) ... > Back to the basics (of that German law of founding) ... > First you need to be seven legal persons who are willing to found such a NPO. > Second, you need to meet face-to-face. > Third, ONLY people from THIS foundational meeting are allowed to > - accept and vote for the statutes > - elect the BOARD of the NPO who much attend that meeting in person > FOURTH, In the statutes who are in German, you give the frame of your > entity and its Goals, Amount of Board, membership fee and so on. > That?s I hope are all dependencies who must be fullfilled to 100% ... > > Any comments? Ideas? Doubts? > > Let me/us know! > > > Gerold > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From robert at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 14 22:22:43 2008 From: robert at fedoraproject.org (Robert Scheck) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:22:43 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora NPO In-Reply-To: <1203012171.3198.34.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> References: <1977.62.2.77.2.1202990052.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <1203012171.3198.34.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> Message-ID: <20080214222243.GA26625@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> Folks, we NEED to found the NPO as soon as possible, I thought we were clear about this? What's the problem? Just a few possible people being to lazy to drive or fly to FOSDEM (I'm meaning the European ones hereby). IMHO we should found the NPO on FOSDEM - no further delay, please. Because if we're delaying, I'm seeing us without NPO at LinuxTag and again without the possibility to collect money from companies in a better way as now... Greetings, Robert From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 14 22:32:19 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:32:19 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora NPO In-Reply-To: <1203012171.3198.34.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> References: <1977.62.2.77.2.1202990052.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <1203012171.3198.34.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> Message-ID: <200802142332.24707.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> > Am Donnerstag, den 14.02.2008, 12:54 +0100 schrieb Gerold: > > > > So what shall we do right now? Shall we postpone the founding I understood this as retoric - but after People really take this serious. here my -1 We have to start at Fosdem - there is no time to hesitate - Ambassadors move! 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Februar 2008 23:22:43 schrieb Robert Scheck: > I'm seeing us without NPO at LinuxTag and again without > the possibility to collect money from companies in a better way as now... One Example - Fedora Posters on Truckplane EUR 350 worth - Fedoraproject will get it for free - and it would be much better if we could give the people who do this work a legal quittance of there donation. It?s not only the money - till now there is no legal "EMEA wide announced" central Contactpoint for the Fedoraproject in EMEA for the Media and Press - no doubt - they will go to the local Redhat Dealer to contact Fedora - and it is happen in Germany, they didn?t know Max or about Ambassadors or other Structures and move it from the desk. We need this central public relation to have ... is explained enough in the past :P you know what i mean! CU Joerg -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 15 11:15:21 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:15:21 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Wall Message-ID: In the last three years the number of ambassadors grew a lot, not only in the quantity but in the quality: there are software engineers, creative, marketing specialists, students, security experts and hobbyists. Each person arrived here with his/her background, with different reasons and different gaols, but with a unique great passion for Fedora and the Open Source in general. Now it's time to create a place where each person can describe with few words what he think about Ambassadors Project and Fedora Project in general, starting from his/her vision of Ambassadors to his/her opinion about Fedora. It would be marvelous to create some posters that will be displayed in the events with the people words, the best way to describe ourselves. If you visit http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Wall you can contribute directly writing your thoughts (few words that in your opinion can represent your idea of Fedora, Fedora Ambassadors etc...). Remember: there aren't deadlines and you are freely to contribute there. I hope Art team (and who want) will help us when we will have a relevant number of messages creating some cool posters. Words are essentials: This idea comes from Joerg's post "Generic Fedora Poster finished by Mairin Duffy"; when I've read his post i understand the importance of words in our project. Fedora Ambassadors Wall could help our project giving it a "core" made by contributors words. Regards Francesco Ugolini p.s. If you aren't able to edit the wiki you can send me (fugolini at fedoraproject dot org) or FAmSCo (famsco at fedoraproject dot org) a mail with your thought. From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Fri Feb 15 15:55:17 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:55:17 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linux Distribution Chooser In-Reply-To: <47B31A82.6050608@yahoo.com.br> References: <1202899637.2735.0.camel@caleuche> <47B31A82.6050608@yahoo.com.br> Message-ID: <64b14b300802150755u4c636fd3k5813dfb44bc7d7e1@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Rodrigo Menezes wrote: > Test to define the best Linux distro for your use: > > http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php > > For me I got Fedora, OpenSuse or Mandriva. > > Cheers, > > Rodrigo Menezes > I got 1. Mandriva 2. Debian 3. Ubuntu 4. Feora This seams a bit unclear why.... -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From fab at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 15 19:18:48 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:18:48 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors Meeting EMEA - IRC Summary 2008-02-13 Message-ID: <47B5E598.8060600@fedoraproject.org> FAmSco This part was skipped because there is enough stuff to talk about in the event section. Ambassadors Membership As of 2008-02-11, 305 Ambassadors have been verified (signed CLA and joined 'ambassadors' group) MaxSpevack want to see more detail about the growth each month, and the regions where that growth is happening. That is the sort of data that is very useful to Fedora Board and Red Hat in securing budget for Ambassadors. The time MaxSpevack spent in Europe last year was very useful for this and the Fedora Project have more money for Ambassadors in general -- all over the world -- because he saw how strong Europe was, and they also know that South America is very strong. Now Greg and MaxSpevack will be focusing much more on those two regions in the coming year than in the past. So it will be up to the local groups -- and also FAMSCO -- to continue to provide folks like MaxSpevack with the data that he need to get budget. This is the draft for collecting data about the Ambassadors Project http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Statistics JeroenVanMeeuwen remember us about that the countrylist has to be updated manually. So that isn't representing the numbers exactly. He recall that FAS has some information about the country for each FAS member so maybe we can check who is where in the 'ambassadors' group using that. MaxSpevack sent in the past 2 days sent email to MikeMcgrath and Toshio asking if they can help pull data like this from the FAS. He think that it is probably very easy for them. ChitleshGoorah was talking about CLA. He have noticed that some contributors (packagers mostly) are using fake names rather than real names. This is mostly a Fedora Advisory Board issue, but its worth that everyone knows this issue so that we can little by little prevent such things. MaxSpevack suggested that ChitleshGoorah send send a mail to f-a-b about that and then they can take care of it (hopefully). Events Linux Solution ThomasCanniot told us that Linux Solutions was a great success. We had the chance to received the 100 live CDs the first morning of the event directly on the booth. All the DVDs were sold or given away. They also tried to have contact with Franz Meier, but he was too busy and we missed him. MaxSpevack gave us some further explanations about the budget. He wanted everyone here to understand about budget. At Red Hat March 1st is the date where we get new budget for the year. For Europe, we have several ideas for this budget -- a few big shows like LinuxTag and FOSDEM, probably one big FUDCon somewhere in Europe, etc. But also we have budget -- about $12,000 per quarter, for the entire world -- for smaller shows. So he looked at the Fedora Events page and he realized that Fedora didn't help with Linux Solutions at all for budget. But he want to fix problems like that in the future. He just wanted to let us know -- we will have much more budget starting March 1st, and now that he is not the overall Fedora Leader anymore, he is going to be focusing lots of my time on Ambassadors and events worldwide. MaxSpevack wanted to know if any new contributors signed up at Linux Solutions. ThomasCanniot said that most people came here to know what Fedora is, get a CD, and to make criticism (good or bad) of the Distro, or to have a chat with them. RedHat Partner Summit FrancescoCrippa said that there's a "RedHat Partner Summit" in EMEA this year, very similar to RH Summit (usa) format. He wanted to know if it's possible to get a "Fedora space" into this event. MaxSpevack think that Red Hat is planning *something* in Europe similar to the RH Summit in the USA. And if/when that happens, we will try to have a Fedora event at the same time. And from now on, we will have a FUDCon at every RH Summit, anywhere in the world. Details about "RedHat Partner Summit" http://www.europe.redhat.com/mktg/partnersummit/?sc_cid=547 Lolug Pillole at Lodi (formally "Fedora by Night") Francesco Crippa told us that everything should be ready. He have received DVDs from MaxSpevack some weeks ago. T-Shirts and caps (20 items) from Spreadshirt last week (with local "own" budget) and tomorrow he hope to have Mairin posters printed. They have got at least 3 big online italian newspaper that report news about "fedora by night" ValentTurkovic asked about budgeting. He wanted to know if the budget covers some events that promote fedora but aren't shows. He have a project in mind that would get quite large media coverage in Croatian mainstream media and he would like to present it like Red Hat/Fedora sponsored event. It would be localization marathon - we would get 10-15 contributors to work on translation of Fedora, Gnome and other projects to Croatia. That would be a great way of promoting Fedora as a distribution for education, local groverment, etc... He believe that this would be a really not expensive event. And they would also like to distribute Fedora promo materials on this event that would be 2 days long. We could do this every month... and threy believe that after 2-3 events we would get local companies to cover the budget. MaxSpevack think it sounds very, very interesting. And he would think that DimitrisGlezos, who is our translation and localization king, could probably help you out. He is happy to support an activity like that. He really need to do a longer presentation to all of you about our budget. But there is also money set aside for localization, and for other opportunities that we can't forsee but that come up. For anything specific to the actual *work* around localization, he suggest Valent talk to DimitrisGlezos. For any money needs, MaxSpevack is the guy to talk to. FOSDEM 2008 DimitrisGlezos have scheduled a meeting with the mediawiki guys to talk about localization, since we're thinking about having it as our wiki solution. And also he'd really like us to sit down and discuss localization, our tools, community around translations and *everything* around this issue. So he'll make sure to go around and find a slot of 1-2 hours to properly cover everything, so that he'll make sure you have what you need for getting the word out to any local group/language JorgSimon will bring an "older" OLPC from Max and will bring the Posters. The Fedora Ambassador Polos which are ordered and will arrive in time. MaxSpevack is trying to get some new OLPC in time for LinuxTag. ChitleshGoorah will bring a KDE4 on a laptop + FEL applications. DimitrisGlezos will bring a Tux poster 3m high. SandroMathys just got message from the linuxtag organizers that they'll attend FOSDEM (and some other European events in the next some weeks) too...maybe a good chance to clear some things in person where necessary. French people will bring 100 Fedora badges, this is an experimental order from us. Chemnitzer LinuxTage 2008 JoergSimon told us that the booth is allocated http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2008/live/detail.html?idx=133 and a special Poster generated http://jsimon.fedorapeople.org/clt2.pdf Attendees will be JoergSimon, RobertScheck, JensKuehnel, and DanielKretschmer. ChitleshGoorah motivates ambassadors to go to chemnitz, their social party is great :) OpenExpo 2008 Berne FabianAffolter have already some Live-CD and they will try to resuse the posters from last year. MaxSpevack will help after March 1 if we need any budget. Maybe FabianAffolter will print some flyer to spread away with the Live-CDs. LinuxTag There was a offline meeting at the begin of February. Check out http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/FLTT if you want to help MaxSpevack noticed that there are lots of EMEA events in Feb, Mar, Apr, May. But after LinuxTag the Events List for Europe drops off a lot. Events after LinuxTag (smaller than FOSDEM and LinuxTag) Rencontres Mondiales du Logiciel Libre (RMLL) Fr?hjahrsfachgespr?ch FrOSCon 2008 OpenExpo 2008 HCC! Dagen 2008 Linuxday 2008 Linux Day (Italia) NPO JeroenVanMeeuwen sent the latest draft of the NPO statutes to the mailing list, incorporating some of the comments made on the first draft. GeroldKassube indicates that the financial department in Germany still needs to "OK" the first draft and that is just to indicate there are no fundamental problems - nothing official about their answer -. We've set up a page ( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/BoardElections ) where you can self-nominate if you would want to run for board and the law requires a minimum of 4 people on the board, and so far 4 people have nominated themselves. Note that amongst those 4 is MaxSpevack, who regretably will not be able to attend FOSDEM and can therefore not be elected Again, that's a requirement by law and not something we made up on the spot. GeroldKassube and JeroenVanMeeuwen have been thinking about postponing the foundation if there is 1) not enough candidates for board, or 2) if the ambassadors think max should be there when it all goes down 3) whatever other reason you can think of. There was a parol "OK" by a German financial department for the first draft (?), but nothing in written form, yet. Open stage ChitleshGoorah did a presentation for Fedora Electronic Lab, http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/fel-fabless-solutions.pdf , please pass it on to those you may know who might interested. I talked about where FEL applications can be used and how academic institutions might take advantage of it. Any comment or what ever is welcome.- Thanks Next meeting (so far) 2008-03-12 - 20.00 UTC From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Feb 15 22:07:18 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:07:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors Meeting EMEA - IRC Summary 2008-02-13 In-Reply-To: <47B5E598.8060600@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B5E598.8060600@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: This write up is SUPERB. Thank you Fabian. --Max On Fri, 15 Feb 2008, Fabian Affolter wrote: > FAmSco > This part was skipped because there is enough stuff to talk about in the > event section. > > Ambassadors Membership > As of 2008-02-11, 305 Ambassadors have been verified (signed CLA and joined > 'ambassadors' group) > MaxSpevack want to see more detail about the growth each month, and the > regions where that growth is happening. That is the sort of data that is > very useful to Fedora Board and Red Hat in securing budget for Ambassadors. > The time MaxSpevack spent in Europe last year was very useful for this and > the Fedora Project have more money for Ambassadors in general -- all over the > world -- because he saw how strong Europe was, and they also know that South > America is very strong. Now Greg and MaxSpevack will be focusing much more > on those two regions in the coming year than in the past. So it will be up > to the local groups -- and also FAMSCO -- to continue to provide folks like > MaxSpevack with the data that he need to get budget. This is the draft for > collecting data about the Ambassadors Project > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Statistics > > JeroenVanMeeuwen remember us about that the countrylist has to be updated > manually. So that isn't representing the numbers exactly. He recall that > FAS has some information about the country for each FAS member so maybe we > can check who is where in the 'ambassadors' group using that. MaxSpevack > sent in the past 2 days sent email to MikeMcgrath and Toshio asking if they > can help pull data like this from the FAS. He think that it is probably very > easy for them. > > ChitleshGoorah was talking about CLA. He have noticed that some contributors > (packagers mostly) are using fake names rather than real names. This is > mostly a Fedora Advisory Board issue, but its worth that everyone knows this > issue so that we can little by little prevent such things. MaxSpevack > suggested that ChitleshGoorah send send a mail to f-a-b about that and then > they can take care of it (hopefully). > > > Events > > Linux Solution > ThomasCanniot told us that Linux Solutions was a great success. We had the > chance to received the 100 live CDs the first morning of the event directly > on the booth. All the DVDs were sold or given away. They also tried to have > contact with Franz Meier, but he was too busy and we missed him. > > MaxSpevack gave us some further explanations about the budget. He wanted > everyone here to understand about budget. At Red Hat March 1st is the date > where we get new budget for the year. For Europe, we have several ideas for > this budget -- a few big shows like LinuxTag and FOSDEM, probably one big > FUDCon somewhere in Europe, etc. But also we have budget -- about $12,000 > per quarter, for the entire world -- for smaller shows. > So he looked at the Fedora Events page and he realized that Fedora didn't > help with Linux Solutions at all for budget. But he want to fix problems > like that in the future. He just wanted to let us know -- we will have much > more budget starting March 1st, and now that he is not the overall Fedora > Leader anymore, he is going to be focusing lots of my time on Ambassadors and > events worldwide. > > MaxSpevack wanted to know if any new contributors signed up at Linux > Solutions. ThomasCanniot said that most people came here to know what Fedora > is, get a CD, and to make criticism (good or bad) of the Distro, or to have a > chat with them. > > RedHat Partner Summit > FrancescoCrippa said that there's a "RedHat Partner Summit" in EMEA this > year, very similar to RH Summit (usa) format. He wanted to know if it's > possible to get a "Fedora space" into this event. MaxSpevack > think that Red Hat is planning *something* in Europe similar to the RH Summit > in the USA. And if/when that happens, we will try to have a Fedora event at > the same time. And from now on, we will have a FUDCon at every RH Summit, > anywhere in the world. Details about "RedHat Partner Summit" > http://www.europe.redhat.com/mktg/partnersummit/?sc_cid=547 > > Lolug Pillole at Lodi (formally "Fedora by Night") > Francesco Crippa told us that everything should be ready. He have received > DVDs from MaxSpevack some weeks ago. T-Shirts and caps (20 items) from > Spreadshirt last week (with local "own" budget) and tomorrow he hope to have > Mairin posters printed. They have got at least 3 big online italian > newspaper that report news about "fedora by night" > > ValentTurkovic asked about budgeting. He wanted to know if the budget covers > some events that promote fedora but aren't shows. He have a project in mind > that would get quite large media coverage in Croatian mainstream media and he > would like to present it like Red Hat/Fedora sponsored event. It would be > localization marathon - we would get 10-15 contributors to work on > translation of Fedora, Gnome and other projects to Croatia. That would be a > great way of promoting Fedora as a distribution for education, local > groverment, etc... He believe that this would be a really not expensive > event. And they would also like to distribute Fedora promo materials on this > event that would be 2 days long. We could do this every month... and threy > believe that after 2-3 events we would get local companies to cover the > budget. > > MaxSpevack think it sounds very, very interesting. And he would think that > DimitrisGlezos, who is our translation and localization king, could probably > help you out. He is happy to support an activity like that. He really need to > do a longer presentation to all of you about our budget. But there is also > money set aside for localization, and for other opportunities that we can't > forsee but that come up. For anything specific to the actual *work* around > localization, he suggest Valent talk to DimitrisGlezos. For any money needs, > MaxSpevack is the guy to talk to. > > > FOSDEM 2008 > DimitrisGlezos have scheduled a meeting with the mediawiki guys to talk about > localization, since we're thinking about having it as our wiki solution. And > also he'd really like us to sit down and discuss localization, our tools, > community around translations and *everything* around this issue. So he'll > make sure to go around and find a slot of 1-2 hours to properly cover > everything, so that he'll make sure you have what you need for getting the > word out to any local group/language > > JorgSimon will bring an "older" OLPC from Max and will bring the Posters. > The Fedora Ambassador Polos which are ordered and will arrive in time. > MaxSpevack is trying to get some new OLPC in time for LinuxTag. > ChitleshGoorah will bring a KDE4 on a laptop + FEL applications. > DimitrisGlezos will bring a Tux poster 3m high. SandroMathys just got message > from the linuxtag organizers that they'll attend FOSDEM (and some other > European events in the next some weeks) too...maybe a good chance to clear > some things in person where necessary. French people will bring 100 Fedora > badges, this is an experimental order from us. > > Chemnitzer LinuxTage 2008 > JoergSimon told us that the booth is allocated > http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2008/live/detail.html?idx=133 and a special > Poster generated http://jsimon.fedorapeople.org/clt2.pdf > Attendees will be JoergSimon, RobertScheck, JensKuehnel, and > DanielKretschmer. ChitleshGoorah motivates ambassadors to go to chemnitz, > their social party is great :) > > OpenExpo 2008 Berne > FabianAffolter have already some Live-CD and they will try to resuse the > posters from last year. MaxSpevack will help after March 1 if we need any > budget. Maybe FabianAffolter will print some flyer to spread away with the > Live-CDs. > > LinuxTag > There was a offline meeting at the begin of February. Check out > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/FLTT if you > want to help > > MaxSpevack noticed that there are lots of EMEA events in Feb, Mar, Apr, May. > But after LinuxTag the Events List for Europe drops off a lot. Events after > LinuxTag (smaller than FOSDEM and LinuxTag) > Rencontres Mondiales du Logiciel Libre (RMLL) > Fr?hjahrsfachgespr?ch > FrOSCon 2008 > OpenExpo 2008 > HCC! Dagen 2008 > Linuxday 2008 > Linux Day (Italia) > > > NPO > JeroenVanMeeuwen sent the latest draft of the NPO statutes to the mailing > list, incorporating some of the comments made on the first draft. > GeroldKassube indicates that the financial department in Germany still needs > to "OK" the first draft and that is just to indicate there are no fundamental > problems - nothing official about their answer -. We've set up a page ( > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/BoardElections ) where you can > self-nominate if you would want to run for board and the law requires a > minimum of 4 people on the board, and so far 4 people have nominated > themselves. Note that amongst those 4 is MaxSpevack, who regretably will not > be able to attend FOSDEM and can therefore not be elected Again, that's a > requirement by law and not something we made up on the spot. > > GeroldKassube and JeroenVanMeeuwen have been thinking about postponing the > foundation if there is 1) not enough candidates for board, or 2) if the > ambassadors think max should be there when it all goes down 3) whatever other > reason you can think of. There was a parol "OK" by a German financial > department for the first draft (?), but nothing in written form, yet. > > Open stage > ChitleshGoorah did a presentation for Fedora Electronic Lab, > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/fel-fabless-solutions.pdf , please pass > it on to those you may know who might interested. I talked about where FEL > applications can be used and how academic institutions might take advantage > of it. > > Any comment or what ever is welcome.- Thanks > > Next meeting (so far) > > 2008-03-12 - 20.00 UTC > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From fcrippa at byte-code.com Sat Feb 16 22:02:02 2008 From: fcrippa at byte-code.com (Francesco Crippa) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 23:02:02 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] CountryList In-Reply-To: <378317831.12351203199082058.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <327075923.12371203199322363.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> ----- "Max Spevack" wrote: > [...] > So clearly it's being done by hand. No, it is not true! ;-) > Next question: > > How do we automate it, so that we can actually know *where* our > ambassadors are and have an understanding of if (and where) we are > growing? I've written a very simple python script that produce useful data to make graph. On my blog I post a couple of examples made by this script: http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa/2008/02/16/fedora-ambassadors-statistics/ For the moment script is "too quick and too dirty", but I need it to be sure that process can be fully automated. Now it's Saturday night in Italy (lovely time). I've got to stop my work and go out to have a lot of fun with my friends! On Monday I'll try to cleaning up the code and put it online. Take care bye bye francesco -- Francesco Crippa http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Sun Feb 17 00:46:05 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 01:46:05 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] CountryList In-Reply-To: <327075923.12371203199322363.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <378317831.12351203199082058.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <327075923.12371203199322363.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <64b14b300802161646m25fbcd15r7912f5975f674eb@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 16, 2008 11:02 PM, Francesco Crippa wrote: > ----- "Max Spevack" wrote: > > [...] > > So clearly it's being done by hand. > > No, it is not true! ;-) > > > Next question: > > > > How do we automate it, so that we can actually know *where* our > > ambassadors are and have an understanding of if (and where) we are > > growing? > > I've written a very simple python script that produce useful data to make graph. On my blog I post a couple of examples made by this script: > > http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa/2008/02/16/fedora-ambassadors-statistics/ I don't see the stats :( -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From fzied at dottn.com Sun Feb 17 09:41:42 2008 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:41:42 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linux Distribution Chooser In-Reply-To: <64b14b300802150755u4c636fd3k5813dfb44bc7d7e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1202899637.2735.0.camel@caleuche> <47B31A82.6050608@yahoo.com.br> <64b14b300802150755u4c636fd3k5813dfb44bc7d7e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I got SuSe and Fedora On Feb 15, 2008 4:55 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Rodrigo Menezes > wrote: > > Test to define the best Linux distro for your use: > > > > http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php > > > > For me I got Fedora, OpenSuse or Mandriva. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rodrigo Menezes > > > > I got > > 1. Mandriva > 2. Debian > 3. Ubuntu > 4. Feora > > This seams a bit unclear why.... > > > -- > http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ > linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless > registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. > ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Zied Fakhfakh Dot TN - CTO Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis Tunisia T : +216 71 886112 F : +216 71 885499 M : +216 22 535604 W : http://www.dottn.com GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C From nihedmm at gmail.com Sun Feb 17 09:52:44 2008 From: nihedmm at gmail.com (nihed mbarek) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:52:44 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linux Distribution Chooser In-Reply-To: References: <1202899637.2735.0.camel@caleuche> <47B31A82.6050608@yahoo.com.br> <64b14b300802150755u4c636fd3k5813dfb44bc7d7e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5bddd8fd0802170152r68028ceegdd8b550edb2ce203@mail.gmail.com> I got fedora suse and mandriva :) i think because i choose RPM ;) On Feb 17, 2008 10:41 AM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > I got SuSe and Fedora > > On Feb 15, 2008 4:55 PM, Valent Turkovic > wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Rodrigo Menezes > > wrote: > > > Test to define the best Linux distro for your use: > > > > > > http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php > > > > > > For me I got Fedora, OpenSuse or Mandriva. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Rodrigo Menezes > > > > > > > I got > > > > 1. 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Christoph From mspevack at redhat.com Sun Feb 17 17:20:51 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:20:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] last chance -- LinuxTag hotel In-Reply-To: <1203257474.11108.5.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <1203257474.11108.5.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: On Sun, 17 Feb 2008, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Sorry I missed the deadline, but I was'nt able to edit the wiki due to > server issues (503). I added myself right now and I hope it's not to > late. You're on the list -- no worries. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Sun Feb 17 17:52:44 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:52:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag rooms (PLEASE READ) Message-ID: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/Rooms This is the current list of rooms. We need you to: (1) Make sure that you are still going. If not, please remove yourself from the list. (2) Make sure that you are ok with the roommate that you have been assigned. If not, please speak up. (3) MAKE SURE THAT YOUR NAME WAS NOT ACCIDENTALLY REMOVED. We tried to organize people by room. If we removed your name by mistake, put it back! (4) Try to figure out if we can consolidate people any further... for all 5 nights, a double room is 625 euros and a single room is 525 Euros. Once the final list of rooms and roommates is set, we can begin to determine how much the Fedora Project can contribute to the total cost of the hotel. Thanks, Max From mspevack at redhat.com Sun Feb 17 18:25:57 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:25:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] idea for *every* event Message-ID: Here is a proposal for two activities that we should have at every event. In particular, I'd like to see us do it at FOSDEM, FISL, and LinuxTag: (1) A "join Fedora" station. Somewhere at the booth, there is a computer or laptop with a sign on it that says "come here to join the Fedora Project" or something like that. There is one person whose job is to talk to folks, get them interested in Fedora, and help them to go through the CLA and WikiEditing process. The success metric is simple: * Did the person leave having set up their Fedora Wiki homepage? * Did the person become a Fedora Ambassador? * Does the person have some idea of what they might like to contribute to Fedora? * How many accounts were created at the event? (2) A "bring us your USB key, and we'll turn it into a Fedora LiveUSB key for you" station. Same idea as above. We have a computer that has several Fedora Spins on it. People bring their USB key, and we run the livecd-iso-to-disk tool and set their USB keys up as Fedora LiveUSB keys. Again, the metric is simple: * How many were created at the event? Thoughts or comments? --Max From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Sun Feb 17 18:26:28 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:26:28 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag rooms (PLEASE READ) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200802171926.28426.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Sonntag, 17. Februar 2008 18:52:44 schrieb Max Spevack: > > (4) Try to figure out if we can consolidate people any further... for > all 5 nights, a double room is 625 euros and a single room is 525 Euros. i will share the room with JensKuehnel now. Wiki is updated Joerg -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From gerold at lugd.org Sun Feb 17 19:08:26 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:08:26 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] idea for *every* event In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1203275306.30420.40.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Hi there, for e.g. Linuxtag (end of May this year) ... Am Sonntag, den 17.02.2008, 13:25 -0500 schrieb Max Spevack: > Here is a proposal for two activities that we should have at every > event. In particular, I'd like to see us do it at FOSDEM, FISL, and > LinuxTag: > > (1) A "join Fedora" station. Somewhere at the booth, there is a > computer or laptop with a sign on it that says "come here to join the > Fedora Project" or something like that. There is one person whose job > is to talk to folks, get them interested in Fedora, and help them to go > through the CLA and WikiEditing process. The success metric is simple: > * Did the person leave having set up their Fedora Wiki homepage? > * Did the person become a Fedora Ambassador? > * Does the person have some idea of what they might like to > contribute to Fedora? > * How many accounts were created at the event? ^^ not planned yet, but we can do so ... > (2) A "bring us your USB key, and we'll turn it into a Fedora LiveUSB > key for you" station. Same idea as above. We have a computer that has > several Fedora Spins on it. People bring their USB key, and we run the > livecd-iso-to-disk tool and set their USB keys up as Fedora LiveUSB > keys. Again, the metric is simple: > * How many were created at the event? ^^ planned! > Thoughts or comments? ^^ Do we really need to count the numbers? Not really sure that somebody (out of Red Hat) trusts our numbers ... Have a look to the other Distributions and OS's nobody really trusts the numbers you personally collect (because of other think you beaty that numbers) ... BUt OK, for our personal use, I agree that we count them ... -- Gerold Kassube -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From jkeating at redhat.com Sun Feb 17 19:09:54 2008 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:09:54 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] idea for *every* event In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080217140954.7df09d92@redhat.com> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:25:57 -0500 (EST) Max Spevack wrote: > (2) A "bring us your USB key, and we'll turn it into a Fedora LiveUSB > key for you" station. Same idea as above. We have a computer that > has several Fedora Spins on it. People bring their USB key, and we > run the livecd-iso-to-disk tool and set their USB keys up as Fedora > LiveUSB keys. Again, the metric is simple: > * How many were created at the event? > > Thoughts or comments? I like this idea more than the first. I'd be afraid of fire-and-forget accounts being created from the first, rather than quality long term contributors. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Sun Feb 17 19:17:13 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:17:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] idea for *every* event In-Reply-To: <20080217140954.7df09d92@redhat.com> References: <20080217140954.7df09d92@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 17 Feb 2008, Jesse Keating wrote: > I'd be afraid of fire-and-forget accounts being created from the > first, rather than quality long term contributors. Me too, Jesse. But I'm *more* afraid of folks who would do something good for Fedora, but can't get past the initial hurdle of getting their account properly created without personal face to face help. We need to really focus on lowering the barriers to entry, so there doesn't have to be a "help get your account created" station. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Sun Feb 17 19:19:11 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:19:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] idea for *every* event In-Reply-To: <1203275306.30420.40.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> References: <1203275306.30420.40.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: On Sun, 17 Feb 2008, Gerold Kassube wrote: > Do we really need to count the numbers? Not really sure that somebody > (out of Red Hat) trusts our numbers ... Have a look to the other > Distributions and OS's nobody really trusts the numbers you personally > collect (because of other think you beaty that numbers) ... BUt OK, > for our personal use, I agree that we count them ... It's useful in the Event Report of blog posts to say "and I spent 3 hours at the USB key station, and helped about 50 people create a Fedora USB key!" The only reason to count is just to have a detail, so that the people who are not at the event but who read the reports can get a feel for how busy and active the event is. --Max From jkeating at redhat.com Sun Feb 17 19:27:39 2008 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:27:39 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] idea for *every* event In-Reply-To: References: <20080217140954.7df09d92@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20080217142739.0c87bd7f@redhat.com> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:17:13 -0500 (EST) Max Spevack wrote: > Me too, Jesse. But I'm *more* afraid of folks who would do something > good for Fedora, but can't get past the initial hurdle of getting > their account properly created without personal face to face help. > > We need to really focus on lowering the barriers to entry, so there > doesn't have to be a "help get your account created" station. Absolutely. Perhaps some way to track who signed up at a show vs who actually did something with that account 3 months later... -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Sun Feb 17 19:34:32 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:34:32 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] idea for *every* event In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200802172034.46315.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Sonntag, 17. Februar 2008 19:25:57 schrieb Max Spevack: > (1) A "join Fedora" station. Somewhere at the booth, there is a > computer or laptop with a sign on it that says "come here to join the > Fedora Project" or something like that. There is one person whose job > is to talk to folks, get them interested in Fedora, and help them to go > through the CLA and WikiEditing process. The success metric is simple: > * Did the person leave having set up their Fedora Wiki homepage? > * Did the person become a Fedora Ambassador? > * Does the person have some idea of what they might like to > contribute to Fedora? > * How many accounts were created at the event? Most of them need active mentoring beyond a event, maybe we must give them concrete tasks to find a way to contribute. In the past we have some examples of Ambassadors in Germany who never realised what it mean to contribute and abuse trust and make harm to project and other Ambassadors - see FAD2007 and 2006 in Rheinfelden. Over all - a good idea and a good thing to raise quantity. We should try this! CU -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Feb 17 20:47:45 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:47:45 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] idea for *every* event In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/2/17, Max Spevack : > Here is a proposal for two activities that we should have at every > event. In particular, I'd like to see us do it at FOSDEM, FISL, and > LinuxTag: > > (1) A "join Fedora" station. Somewhere at the booth, there is a > computer or laptop with a sign on it that says "come here to join the > Fedora Project" or something like that. There is one person whose job > is to talk to folks, get them interested in Fedora, and help them to go > through the CLA and WikiEditing process. The success metric is simple: > * Did the person leave having set up their Fedora Wiki homepage? > * Did the person become a Fedora Ambassador? > * Does the person have some idea of what they might like to > contribute to Fedora? > * How many accounts were created at the event? > > (2) A "bring us your USB key, and we'll turn it into a Fedora LiveUSB > key for you" station. Same idea as above. We have a computer that has > several Fedora Spins on it. People bring their USB key, and we run the > livecd-iso-to-disk tool and set their USB keys up as Fedora LiveUSB > keys. Again, the metric is simple: > * How many were created at the event? > > Thoughts or comments? > > --Max > +1 I think this is a great idea because it gives dinamicity at the booth and, also, could invite people to join the project with a "live" support. Regards Francesco Ugolini From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Sun Feb 17 22:26:37 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:26:37 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] idea for *every* event In-Reply-To: <200802172034.46315.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200802172034.46315.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <64b14b300802171426h73b1eafbj708c9de85505301a@mail.gmail.com> 2008/2/17 JoergSimon : > Am Sonntag, 17. Februar 2008 19:25:57 schrieb Max Spevack: > > (1) A "join Fedora" station. Somewhere at the booth, there is a > > computer or laptop with a sign on it that says "come here to join the > > Fedora Project" or something like that. There is one person whose job > > is to talk to folks, get them interested in Fedora, and help them to go > > through the CLA and WikiEditing process. The success metric is simple: > > * Did the person leave having set up their Fedora Wiki homepage? > > * Did the person become a Fedora Ambassador? > > * Does the person have some idea of what they might like to > > contribute to Fedora? > > * How many accounts were created at the event? > > Most of them need active mentoring beyond a event, maybe we must give them > concrete tasks to find a way to contribute. If you look at my posts at different mailing lists you will see that becoming an Fedora contributor and Ambassador is not easy. It is really hard for somebody new to Fedora Project to become a respected contributor. I got into some heated discussions because people on the list thought that I was only there to provoke, and usually misunderstood me. English language is a barrier for non-english speaking contributors, and a communication barrier for those who's primary language is not english. I had the most sincere intention was to have some positive and constructive criticism or suggestion on some topics but I can't write in fine english and I directly talk about the subject at hand without some fine words that softer the issue. I found that speaking directly about any issue usually is though as provocation or flame bite. For me and I guess others who speak english as second language have a hard time putting their thought into foreign language so that it doesn't sound rude. You (english as primary language people) talk in much broader and wider terms and have a much bigger vocabulary that us others. Thank you, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From linux at elfshadow.net Mon Feb 18 02:59:45 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:59:45 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] idea for *every* event In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10e0a9b00802171859i175ab5abvb237307732e22065@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 17, 2008 1:25 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > (1) A "join Fedora" station. Somewhere at the booth, there is a > computer or laptop with a sign on it that says "come here to join the > Fedora Project" or something like that. There is one person whose job > is to talk to folks, get them interested in Fedora, and help them to go > through the CLA and WikiEditing process. The success metric is simple: > * Did the person leave having set up their Fedora Wiki homepage? > * Did the person become a Fedora Ambassador? > * Does the person have some idea of what they might like to > contribute to Fedora? > * How many accounts were created at the event? One barrier will be Internet access at events. I know at the Ohio Linux Fest booths generally do not have Internet access due to the outrageous cost to have an Internet connection to the booth. Though relatively easy to circumvent, it is highly frowned upon. This issue certainly won't affect all events, but it could be a hurdle to a sign-up station. In another email you also mentioned that ambassdors are about not only adding more users to Fedora, but finding more contributors. From my time working booths, I think you can sort of get a feel on whether someone is more there to grab a DVD or if they were engaged in conversation apt to contribute. My initial thought was that we need a good flyer that covers some of the groups a person could contribute to, reminding people that you don't have to be a coder to contribute. This flyer could be useful when you are talking to someone at a booth and find a spark of interest in that person for becoming a contributor. It would give them something to take with them to remind them after the event/show that they should sign up. It may be time to review the directions we have to complete the CLA process as well. Just to make sure we have things laid out as simple as they can be. And finally, something else to help track all of this without necessarily needing to sign people up at a show would be a field that allows people to entry a referral. So, using the Ohio Linux Fest as an example - if I was a new contributor that had been encouraged to begin contributing at an event by an Ambassador I would have a spot to enter an Ambassador's name or the event name. > (2) A "bring us your USB key, and we'll turn it into a Fedora LiveUSB > key for you" station. Same idea as above. We have a computer that has > several Fedora Spins on it. People bring their USB key, and we run the > livecd-iso-to-disk tool and set their USB keys up as Fedora LiveUSB > keys. Again, the metric is simple: > * How many were created at the event? I think this is a great idea. I know at the last OLF we were burning media like crazy throughout the day. Carrying this over to USB live USB keys would be good. ~Jeffrey From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Mon Feb 18 05:05:25 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:35:25 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] idea for *every* event In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47B91215.4050907@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Max Spevack wrote: | (1) A "join Fedora" station. Somewhere at the booth, there is a | computer or laptop with a sign on it that says "come here to join the | Fedora Project" or something like that. There is one person whose job | is to talk to folks, get them interested in Fedora, and help them to go | through the CLA and WikiEditing process. The success metric is simple: Is this in some way related to the perception that "joining" up is hard ? I like this idea - however, can someone help create a cheatsheet / playbook on these two activities ? That way one can just pass along the swag (if it can be so called) and the new joinee can help another one to join in - -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFHuRIVXQZpNTcrCzMRAtk9AJd7VbmE8KR25psHl67MjqBQ/iYfAKDE85/o wvTo5Qq9cWlDnZjWdP+BKw== =A/WI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kushaldas at gmail.com Mon Feb 18 05:13:48 2008 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:43:48 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag rooms (PLEASE READ) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200802181043.48542.kushaldas@gmail.com> On Sunday 17 February 2008 11:22:44 pm Max Spevack wrote: > (4) Try to figure out if we can consolidate people any further... for > all 5 nights, a double room is 625 euros and a single room is 525 Euros. > The double room cost is almost my plane fairs from and to !!! Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.in http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur) From tcallawa at redhat.com Mon Feb 18 03:41:24 2008 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:41:24 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] idea for *every* event In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1203306084.3235.59.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 13:25 -0500, Max Spevack wrote: > Here is a proposal for two activities that we should have at every > event. In particular, I'd like to see us do it at FOSDEM, FISL, and > LinuxTag: > > (1) A "join Fedora" station. Somewhere at the booth, there is a > computer or laptop with a sign on it that says "come here to join the > Fedora Project" or something like that. There is one person whose job > is to talk to folks, get them interested in Fedora, and help them to go > through the CLA and WikiEditing process. The success metric is simple: > * Did the person leave having set up their Fedora Wiki homepage? > * Did the person become a Fedora Ambassador? > * Does the person have some idea of what they might like to > contribute to Fedora? > * How many accounts were created at the event? > > (2) A "bring us your USB key, and we'll turn it into a Fedora LiveUSB > key for you" station. Same idea as above. We have a computer that has > several Fedora Spins on it. People bring their USB key, and we run the > livecd-iso-to-disk tool and set their USB keys up as Fedora LiveUSB > keys. Again, the metric is simple: > * How many were created at the event? > > Thoughts or comments? I love these ideas. Here are some stream of consciousness thoughts that I have around this: * Could we make a simple application (web based or otherwise) that makes the "join Fedora" station really easy? In fact, this seems like an ideal initial target for My Fedora integration. This would also enable us to get better stats, automagically. * Maybe we could also have a application front-end for liveUSB creation, showing the ISO spins in a directory and showing the USB keys that it sees plugged in, then has a nice GUI "making USB key" with progress bar. Old-world model: Each region gets a machine specifically dedicated to these tasks. New-world model: Every machine at an event can perform either of these tasks. ~spot From tcallawa at redhat.com Mon Feb 18 03:42:56 2008 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:42:56 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora NPO In-Reply-To: <200802142332.24707.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <1977.62.2.77.2.1202990052.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <1203012171.3198.34.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> <200802142332.24707.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1203306176.3235.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 23:32 +0100, JoergSimon wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, den 14.02.2008, 12:54 +0100 schrieb Gerold: > > > > > > So what shall we do right now? Shall we postpone the founding > > I understood this as retoric - but after People really take this serious. > here my -1 > We have to start at Fosdem - there is no time to hesitate - Ambassadors move! I really hate to be a wet blanket on this, but I would really like to clear this with: A) The Fedora Board B) Red Hat Legal before it gets any farther. Have either of these things been done? ~spot From tcallawa at redhat.com Mon Feb 18 03:45:05 2008 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:45:05 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] CountryList In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1203306305.3235.64.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 16:00 -0500, Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Max Spevack wrote: > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList > > > > Is this page updated automatically, or is it done by hand? > > So clearly it's being done by hand. > > Next question: > > How do we automate it, so that we can actually know *where* our > ambassadors are and have an understanding of if (and where) we are > growing? Toshio, This seems like something we would want to be able to pull automatically from FAS2. e.g. Show ALL Users = Ambassadors Where Country = $FOO ~spot From gerold at lugd.org Mon Feb 18 07:43:24 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:43:24 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora NPO In-Reply-To: <1203306176.3235.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1977.62.2.77.2.1202990052.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <1203012171.3198.34.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> <200802142332.24707.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1203306176.3235.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1736.217.162.12.42.1203320604.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Hi, ... We have to start at Fosdem - there is no time to hesitate - Ambassadors >> move! ... > > I really hate to be a wet blanket on this, but I would really like to > clear this with: > > A) The Fedora Board > B) Red Hat Legal > > before it gets any farther. Have either of these things been done? ^^ A) No, why? B) More than once from different persons since last August, without any result of "helping hands" or supporting a local group or whatever you want to hear. Asking Red Hat legal is imho asking a "black whole", because you will be told you'll get an answer or a response in a suitable time. Maybe you, but not me or the guys who asked (from which I know) ... ... this NPO we like to found depends _NOT_ on Red Hat. And there is also NO *must* to be member of this NPO for nobody ... If you want to join the NPO, do so; if not, you'll be also welcome :-) More on the weekend @ Bruxelles regards gerold From nayyares at gmail.com Mon Feb 18 08:32:57 2008 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:32:57 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora NPO In-Reply-To: <1736.217.162.12.42.1203320604.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <1977.62.2.77.2.1202990052.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <1203012171.3198.34.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> <200802142332.24707.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1203306176.3235.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1736.217.162.12.42.1203320604.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30802180032r351a19c2l52b5531989bc0d53@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 18, 2008 9:43 AM, Gerold wrote: > Hi, > > ... We have to start at Fosdem - there is no time to hesitate - > Ambassadors > >> move! ... > > > > I really hate to be a wet blanket on this, but I would really like to > > clear this with: > > > > A) The Fedora Board > > B) Red Hat Legal > > > > before it gets any farther. Have either of these things been done? > ^^ > A) No, why? > B) More than once from different persons since last August, without any > result of "helping hands" or supporting a local group or whatever you want > to hear. Asking Red Hat legal is imho asking a "black whole", because you > will be told you'll get an answer or a response in a suitable time. Maybe > you, but not me or the guys who asked (from which I know) ... +1 (First thing First) we found NPO "with no further more delay" & it will get mature with the time... > > > > ... this NPO we like to found depends _NOT_ on Red Hat. And there is also > NO *must* to be member of this NPO for nobody ... > If you want to join the NPO, do so; if not, you'll be also welcome :-) > > More on the weekend @ Bruxelles > > regards > > gerold > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 18 09:01:43 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:01:43 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] idea for *every* event In-Reply-To: <64b14b300802171426h73b1eafbj708c9de85505301a@mail.gmail.com> References: <200802172034.46315.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <64b14b300802171426h73b1eafbj708c9de85505301a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200802181001.48142.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Sonntag, 17. Februar 2008 23:26:37 schrieb Valent Turkovic: > 2008/2/17 JoergSimon : > > Most of them need active mentoring beyond a event, maybe we must give > > them concrete tasks to find a way to contribute. > > If you look at my posts at different mailing lists you will see that > becoming an Fedora contributor and Ambassador is not easy. > It is really hard for somebody new to Fedora Project to become a > respected contributor. I think you are on a good way - i like the idea with the localization marathon > I got into some heated discussions because people on the list thought > that I was only there to provoke, and usually misunderstood me. Don?t know what do you exactly mean. From what i see - maybe it is not the wisest to start the contribution to the Fedoraproject with a color artwork discussion ;-) It?s not easy to be a one man show, but you are not alone, find more contributors in your country, be a leader for them - start to hire them on events. Set goals like partizipation/talks on Events or your localization marathon, stay in contact with us - try to meet Ambassadors face to face. Maybe a good start is to pick up the presention from Chitlesh, update it and give this talk on a event ... http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ChitleshGoorah?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=enhance_chit.odp cheers -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 18 11:37:38 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:07:38 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Local Language Spins Message-ID: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> Hi, As some of you might be aware already, I am working on several regional language spins and have created a basic set of kickstart files that can be easily reused to create say a Fedora Greek Spin or French Spin or whatever language you use and want to promote. All of the Indian language spins inherit http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/spins/livecd-fedora-8-base-desktop-localized.ks Then merely add the language code, timezone settings and language support. One example is http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/spins/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-hindi.ks This is simple enough and since many of the ambassadors are involved with the L10N efforts in Fedora, I would encourage you to take a look at this and promote spin variants for your local language. If you need any help, feel free to mail to fedora-livecd-list. More information at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo If you want to propose the spin officially, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/CustomSpins If you need help with the processes, let me know. I am mether on freenode IRC and usually hang out in #fedora-devel, #fedora-india and other channels. Rahul From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Mon Feb 18 12:01:49 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:01:49 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] idea for *every* event In-Reply-To: <200802181001.48142.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200802172034.46315.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <64b14b300802171426h73b1eafbj708c9de85505301a@mail.gmail.com> <200802181001.48142.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <64b14b300802180401r4315621cw7c7537079afeec1d@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 18, 2008 10:01 AM, JoergSimon wrote: > Am Sonntag, 17. Februar 2008 23:26:37 schrieb Valent Turkovic: > > 2008/2/17 JoergSimon : > > > Most of them need active mentoring beyond a event, maybe we must give > > > them concrete tasks to find a way to contribute. > > > > If you look at my posts at different mailing lists you will see that > > becoming an Fedora contributor and Ambassador is not easy. > > It is really hard for somebody new to Fedora Project to become a > > respected contributor. > > I think you are on a good way - i like the idea with the localization marathon > > > I got into some heated discussions because people on the list thought > > that I was only there to provoke, and usually misunderstood me. > > Don?t know what do you exactly mean. From what i see - maybe it is not the > wisest to start the contribution to the Fedoraproject with a color artwork > discussion ;-) > > It?s not easy to be a one man show, but you are not alone, find more > contributors in your country, be a leader for them - start to hire them on > events. Set goals like partizipation/talks on Events or your localization > marathon, stay in contact with us - try to meet Ambassadors face to face. > > Maybe a good start is to pick up the presention from Chitlesh, update it and > give this talk on a event ... > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ChitleshGoorah?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=enhance_chit.odp > > > cheers Thank you for your great tips! Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Mon Feb 18 13:12:31 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:12:31 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] CountryList In-Reply-To: <64b14b300802161646m25fbcd15r7912f5975f674eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <378317831.12351203199082058.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <327075923.12371203199322363.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <64b14b300802161646m25fbcd15r7912f5975f674eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <64b14b300802180512w5c8e7609yb4a68877e5bbe1d2@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 1:46 AM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > On Feb 16, 2008 11:02 PM, Francesco Crippa wrote: > > ----- "Max Spevack" wrote: > > > [...] > > > So clearly it's being done by hand. > > > > No, it is not true! ;-) > > > > > Next question: > > > > > > How do we automate it, so that we can actually know *where* our > > > ambassadors are and have an understanding of if (and where) we are > > > growing? > > > > I've written a very simple python script that produce useful data to make graph. On my blog I post a couple of examples made by this script: > > > > http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa/2008/02/16/fedora-ambassadors-statistics/ > > I don't see the stats :( > > -- > http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ > linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless > registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. > ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic > Am I only one not seeing these stats? I'm including screen capture. Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ambassador statistics.png Type: image/png Size: 30024 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pingoufc4 at yahoo.fr Mon Feb 18 13:20:29 2008 From: pingoufc4 at yahoo.fr (pingou) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:20:29 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] CountryList In-Reply-To: <64b14b300802180512w5c8e7609yb4a68877e5bbe1d2@mail.gmail.com> References: <378317831.12351203199082058.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <327075923.12371203199322363.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <64b14b300802161646m25fbcd15r7912f5975f674eb@mail.gmail.com> <64b14b300802180512w5c8e7609yb4a68877e5bbe1d2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47B9861D.3050805@yahoo.fr> Valent Turkovic wrote: >> > >> > I've written a very simple python script that produce useful data to make graph. On my blog I post a couple of examples made by this script: >> > >> > http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa/2008/02/16/fedora-ambassadors-statistics/ >> >> I don't see the stats :( > > > Am I only one not seeing these stats? I'm including screen capture. No you are not :) Regards, Pierre From fcrippa at byte-code.com Mon Feb 18 16:03:44 2008 From: fcrippa at byte-code.com (Francesco Crippa) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:03:44 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] CountryList In-Reply-To: <969881672.13131203350271017.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <2011210410.13151203350624065.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> ----- "pingou" wrote: > No you are not :) ooooops I'm sorry. There were some bad internal links on the images... Now it should be better ;-) Today I could run the script since "Ambassadors Day Zero". So, now we have stats for all the time: http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa/2008/02/18/more-stats-for-fedora-ambassadors/ Bye bye francesco -- Francesco Crippa http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa From tcallawa at redhat.com Mon Feb 18 16:58:32 2008 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:58:32 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora NPO In-Reply-To: <1736.217.162.12.42.1203320604.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <1977.62.2.77.2.1202990052.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <1203012171.3198.34.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> <200802142332.24707.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1203306176.3235.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1736.217.162.12.42.1203320604.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <1203353912.5109.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 08:43 +0100, Gerold wrote: > Hi, > > ... We have to start at Fosdem - there is no time to hesitate - Ambassadors > >> move! ... > > > > I really hate to be a wet blanket on this, but I would really like to > > clear this with: > > > > A) The Fedora Board > > B) Red Hat Legal > > > > before it gets any farther. Have either of these things been done? > ^^ > A) No, why? > B) More than once from different persons since last August, without any > result of "helping hands" or supporting a local group or whatever you want > to hear. Asking Red Hat legal is imho asking a "black whole", because you > will be told you'll get an answer or a response in a suitable time. Maybe > you, but not me or the guys who asked (from which I know) ... > > > ... this NPO we like to found depends _NOT_ on Red Hat. And there is also > NO *must* to be member of this NPO for nobody ... > If you want to join the NPO, do so; if not, you'll be also welcome :-) So, here's why it matters: Are you using the Fedora trademark? If yes, then, you should get the permission from the trademark holder to do so for an NPO. The trademark holder is Red Hat. The body which gives permission for the Fedora trademark usage is the Fedora Board. Now, I would be happy to talk to Red Hat Legal on your behalf and try to clear this as quickly as possible, but I want to make sure that you guys have all your possible stumbling blocks out of the way so that this doesn't get yanked back immediately. If you're not using the Fedora trademark in any way, then you shouldn't need this, and you can ignore me. ~spot From kanarip at kanarip.com Mon Feb 18 17:42:31 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:42:31 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora NPO In-Reply-To: <1203353912.5109.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1977.62.2.77.2.1202990052.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <1203012171.3198.34.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> <200802142332.24707.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1203306176.3235.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1736.217.162.12.42.1203320604.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <1203353912.5109.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <47B9C387.1090201@kanarip.com> Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > Are you using the Fedora trademark? If yes, then, you should get the > permission from the trademark holder to do so for an NPO. The trademark > holder is Red Hat. The body which gives permission for the Fedora > trademark usage is the Fedora Board. > > Now, I would be happy to talk to Red Hat Legal on your behalf and try to > clear this as quickly as possible, but I want to make sure that you guys > have all your possible stumbling blocks out of the way so that this > doesn't get yanked back immediately. > > If you're not using the Fedora trademark in any way, then you shouldn't > need this, and you can ignore me. > I'm sure we all know why it matters; We've had an "OK, go ahead" from the Fedora Project, but we haven't got any response from Red Hat Legal to the inquiries we made. Let's just say that it'd be hard for them to argue we cannot use the trademark when on the other hand when we asked it didn't seem to have all that much priority or importance. And that is besides the trademark being used by those who build the brand to begin with. Anyway, as legally and practically are two completely different things still, we'd appreciate if you'd attempt to get them to answer whether or not we can expect trouble. Then there's the question of whether we use the trademark or not. I'm thinking using just "Fedora" in the name is already considered "using the trademark" isn't it? Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Feb 18 17:49:48 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:49:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora NPO In-Reply-To: <47B9C387.1090201@kanarip.com> References: <1977.62.2.77.2.1202990052.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <1203012171.3198.34.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> <200802142332.24707.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1203306176.3235.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1736.217.162.12.42.1203320604.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <1203353912.5109.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47B9C387.1090201@kanarip.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 18 Feb 2008, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Let's just say that it'd be hard for them to argue we cannot use the > trademark when on the other hand when we asked it didn't seem to have > all that much priority or importance. And that is besides the > trademark being used by those who build the brand to begin with. > Anyway, as legally and practically are two completely different things > still, we'd appreciate if you'd attempt to get them to answer whether > or not we can expect trouble. > > Then there's the question of whether we use the trademark or not. I'm > thinking using just "Fedora" in the name is already considered "using > the trademark" isn't it? I just sent an email to the Fedora Board list, copying both Jeroen and Gerold, that explains the whole thing, and asks the Board to give an official "ok" about this whole thing. In my opinion, this thread can pause for now. The Fedora Board meets tomorrow. --Max From christoph.wickert at nurfuerspam.de Mon Feb 18 23:36:39 2008 From: christoph.wickert at nurfuerspam.de (Christoph Wickert) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:36:39 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag rooms (PLEASE READ) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1203377799.4467.44.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Sonntag, den 17.02.2008, 12:52 -0500 schrieb Max Spevack: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/Rooms > > (4) Try to figure out if we can consolidate people any further... for > all 5 nights, a double room is 625 euros and a single room is 525 Euros. > Sorry, I will only sleep the first 2 nights the hotel then, but I signed up for a double room with Robert Scheck. Is this possible? (2 nights double, 3 single) If not Robert will pay a single room (he was willing to do that anyway), and I will not stay at the hotel at all, although I would have loved to hang around with you guys more. But I have enough friends in Berlin where I can sleep completely FOR FREE. One of my friends even has a free flat, where I could offer one or two places to sleep. If somebody is interested, please let me know... Christoph From gerold at lugd.org Tue Feb 19 06:20:46 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:20:46 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag rooms (PLEASE READ) In-Reply-To: <1203377799.4467.44.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <1203377799.4467.44.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <1203402046.3453.20.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Am Dienstag, den 19.02.2008, 00:36 +0100 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > Am Sonntag, den 17.02.2008, 12:52 -0500 schrieb Max Spevack: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/Rooms > > > > (4) Try to figure out if we can consolidate people any further... for > > all 5 nights, a double room is 625 euros and a single room is 525 Euros. > > > Sorry, I will only sleep the first 2 nights the hotel then, but I signed > up for a double room with Robert Scheck. Is this possible? (2 nights > double, 3 single) > > If not Robert will pay a single room (he was willing to do that anyway), > and I will not stay at the hotel at all, although I would have loved to > hang around with you guys more. But I have enough friends in Berlin > where I can sleep completely FOR FREE. > > One of my friends even has a free flat, where I could offer one or two > places to sleep. If somebody is interested, please let me know... > > Christoph ^^ the goal is (in the first instance) to have a bed for everyone, there you're completly right ... But second and much important is, that we all come together and have a week of narrow contact to each other to help each other, to feel each other, to talk to each other, to scheme and have a week of fun together .... :-) Regards Gerold -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Is this possible? (2 nights > > double, 3 single) > > > > If not Robert will pay a single room (he was willing to do that anyway), > > and I will not stay at the hotel at all, although I would have loved to > > hang around with you guys more. But I have enough friends in Berlin > > where I can sleep completely FOR FREE. > > > > One of my friends even has a free flat, where I could offer one or two > > places to sleep. If somebody is interested, please let me know... > > > > Christoph > ^^ > the goal is (in the first instance) to have a bed for everyone, there > you're completly right ... > But second and much important is, that we all come together and have a > week of narrow contact to each other to help each other, to feel each > other, to talk to each other, to scheme and have a week of fun > together .... This is why I said that "I'd love to hang around with you guys more", but even if RH pays a part of the hotel bill it's much to expensive for me. I simply can not afford this and I'm sure it's the same for other people. So I have to options: Sleep somewhere else or not come at all. What do you think is better? ;) Christoph From nayyares at gmail.com Tue Feb 19 13:26:46 2008 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:26:46 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag rooms (PLEASE READ) In-Reply-To: <1203426021.3618.6.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <1203377799.4467.44.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1203402046.3453.20.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1203426021.3618.6.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30802190526m561243e2s563a702c90e6b9bf@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 19, 2008 3:00 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > Am Dienstag, den 19.02.2008, 07:20 +0100 schrieb Gerold Kassube: > > Am Dienstag, den 19.02.2008, 00:36 +0100 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > > > Am Sonntag, den 17.02.2008, 12:52 -0500 schrieb Max Spevack: > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/Rooms > > > > > > > > (4) Try to figure out if we can consolidate people any further... > for > > > > all 5 nights, a double room is 625 euros and a single room is 525 > Euros. > > > > > > > Sorry, I will only sleep the first 2 nights the hotel then, but I > signed > > > up for a double room with Robert Scheck. Is this possible? (2 nights > > > double, 3 single) > > > > > > If not Robert will pay a single room (he was willing to do that > anyway), > > > and I will not stay at the hotel at all, although I would have loved > to > > > hang around with you guys more. But I have enough friends in Berlin > > > where I can sleep completely FOR FREE. > > > > > > One of my friends even has a free flat, where I could offer one or two > > > places to sleep. If somebody is interested, please let me know... > > > > > > Christoph > > ^^ > > the goal is (in the first instance) to have a bed for everyone, there > > you're completly right ... > > But second and much important is, that we all come together and have a > > week of narrow contact to each other to help each other, to feel each > > other, to talk to each other, to scheme and have a week of fun > > together .... > > This is why I said that "I'd love to hang around with you guys more", > but even if RH pays a part of the hotel bill it's much to expensive for > me. I simply can not afford this and I'm sure it's the same for other > people. of course it depends on the your situation, what you can do is that...we mostly on first day make a plan for rest of days at Linuxtag, that includes timings n places for meeting & other event presences, you can take all that schedule & try to show up on time. cheers > > So I have to options: Sleep somewhere else or not come at all. What do > you think is better? ;) > > Christoph > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stickster at gmail.com Tue Feb 19 13:27:08 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:27:08 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] idea for *every* event In-Reply-To: <1203306084.3235.59.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1203306084.3235.59.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1203427628.28789.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 22:41 -0500, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 13:25 -0500, Max Spevack wrote: > > Here is a proposal for two activities that we should have at every > > event. In particular, I'd like to see us do it at FOSDEM, FISL, and > > LinuxTag: > > > > (1) A "join Fedora" station. Somewhere at the booth, there is a > > computer or laptop with a sign on it that says "come here to join the > > Fedora Project" or something like that. There is one person whose job > > is to talk to folks, get them interested in Fedora, and help them to go > > through the CLA and WikiEditing process. The success metric is simple: > > * Did the person leave having set up their Fedora Wiki homepage? > > * Did the person become a Fedora Ambassador? > > * Does the person have some idea of what they might like to > > contribute to Fedora? > > * How many accounts were created at the event? > > > > (2) A "bring us your USB key, and we'll turn it into a Fedora LiveUSB > > key for you" station. Same idea as above. We have a computer that has > > several Fedora Spins on it. People bring their USB key, and we run the > > livecd-iso-to-disk tool and set their USB keys up as Fedora LiveUSB > > keys. Again, the metric is simple: > > * How many were created at the event? > > > > Thoughts or comments? > > I love these ideas. Here are some stream of consciousness thoughts that > I have around this: > > * Could we make a simple application (web based or otherwise) that makes > the "join Fedora" station really easy? In fact, this seems like an ideal > initial target for My Fedora integration. This would also enable us to > get better stats, automagically. This is exactly what I've been thinking, too, q.v.: http://paul.frields.org/?p=912 If this application *also* was able to start somehow in the context of the user's first signin (or opening a browser), that would be great too. But the important part is to get people through the joining process in a way that is (1) relatively easy to modify as our joining process changes, and (2) dead-simple for users who may not have detailed technical knowledge. Contributors come in all forms, not just developers. > * Maybe we could also have a application front-end for liveUSB creation, > showing the ISO spins in a directory and showing the USB keys that it > sees plugged in, then has a nice GUI "making USB key" with progress bar. > > Old-world model: Each region gets a machine specifically dedicated to > these tasks. > New-world model: Every machine at an event can perform either of these > tasks. +1. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From christoph.wickert at nurfuerspam.de Tue Feb 19 15:04:46 2008 From: christoph.wickert at nurfuerspam.de (Christoph Wickert) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:04:46 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag rooms (PLEASE READ) In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30802190526m561243e2s563a702c90e6b9bf@mail.gmail.com> References: <1203377799.4467.44.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1203402046.3453.20.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1203426021.3618.6.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <8e1ee2a30802190526m561243e2s563a702c90e6b9bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1203433486.3618.65.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Dienstag, den 19.02.2008, 15:26 +0200 schrieb Nayyar Ahmad: > > > On Feb 19, 2008 3:00 PM, Christoph Wickert > wrote: > > Am Dienstag, den 19.02.2008, 07:20 +0100 schrieb Gerold > Kassube: > > > Am Dienstag, den 19.02.2008, 00:36 +0100 schrieb Christoph > Wickert: > > > Am Sonntag, den 17.02.2008, 12:52 -0500 schrieb Max > Spevack: > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/Rooms > > > > > > > > (4) Try to figure out if we can consolidate people any > further... for > > > > all 5 nights, a double room is 625 euros and a single > room is 525 Euros. > > > > > > > Sorry, I will only sleep the first 2 nights the hotel > then, but I signed > > > up for a double room with Robert Scheck. Is this possible? > (2 nights > > > double, 3 single) > > > > > > If not Robert will pay a single room (he was willing to do > that anyway), > > > and I will not stay at the hotel at all, although I would > have loved to > > > hang around with you guys more. But I have enough friends > in Berlin > > > where I can sleep completely FOR FREE. > > > > > > One of my friends even has a free flat, where I could > offer one or two > > > places to sleep. If somebody is interested, please let me > know... > > > > > > Christoph > > ^^ > > the goal is (in the first instance) to have a bed for > everyone, there > > you're completly right ... > > But second and much important is, that we all come together > and have a > > week of narrow contact to each other to help each other, to > feel each > > other, to talk to each other, to scheme and have a week of > fun > > together .... > > > This is why I said that "I'd love to hang around with you guys > more", > but even if RH pays a part of the hotel bill it's much to > expensive for > me. I simply can not afford this and I'm sure it's the same > for other > people. > > of course it depends on the your situation, what you can do is > that...we mostly on first day make a plan for rest of days at > Linuxtag, that includes timings n places for meeting & other event > presences, you can take all that schedule & try to show up on time. Yeah, I planned to sleep at the hotel the first two nights. I think this is especially useful for FAD and first briefings. If we do a final discussion on Saturday and have a beer after everything finished I will be there too... I hope that this is ok for the reservation and Robert, my (supposed-to-be) roommate. Christoph From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Feb 19 15:58:00 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:58:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag rooms (PLEASE READ) In-Reply-To: <1203433486.3618.65.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <1203377799.4467.44.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1203402046.3453.20.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1203426021.3618.6.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <8e1ee2a30802190526m561243e2s563a702c90e6b9bf@mail.gmail.com> <1203433486.3618.65.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Yeah, I planned to sleep at the hotel the first two nights. I think > this is especially useful for FAD and first briefings. If we do a > final discussion on Saturday and have a beer after everything finished > I will be there too... > > I hope that this is ok for the reservation and Robert, my > (supposed-to-be) roommate. Everyone needs to look at the wiki page again and update it for the nights that they will ACTUALLY SLEEP IN THE HOTEL. Thanks, Max From kanarip at kanarip.com Tue Feb 19 16:25:20 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:25:20 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag rooms (PLEASE READ) In-Reply-To: References: <1203377799.4467.44.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1203402046.3453.20.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1203426021.3618.6.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <8e1ee2a30802190526m561243e2s563a702c90e6b9bf@mail.gmail.com> <1203433486.3618.65.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <47BB02F0.50701@kanarip.com> Max Spevack wrote: > On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Christoph Wickert wrote: > >> Yeah, I planned to sleep at the hotel the first two nights. I think >> this is especially useful for FAD and first briefings. If we do a >> final discussion on Saturday and have a beer after everything finished >> I will be there too... >> >> I hope that this is ok for the reservation and Robert, my >> (supposed-to-be) roommate. > > Everyone needs to look at the wiki page again and update it for the > nights that they will ACTUALLY SLEEP IN THE HOTEL. > I checked; I swapped NayyarAhmad and StefanHartsuiker so that Stefan stays with me in the same room -he's a colleague of mine. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen From peter at reuschlein.de Wed Feb 20 06:56:01 2008 From: peter at reuschlein.de (Peter Reuschlein) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:56:01 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction Message-ID: <47BBCF01.8040108@reuschlein.de> Hello everybody, so, as i just joined the ambassador team a short introduction about me. My Name is Peter and i joined the ambassador team with the maingoal to support the people organizing the LinuxDay2008 in Berlin, later on, well, i think there are plenty things to do. Till now i just did some translations for the german translation team (as far as i had time and specspo didn't break my nerves down). I live in a small village near W?rzburg (Germany) and more informations can be found on my wikipage :) so greetings and best regards Peter -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Kind Regards Frederic Hornain http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain From eduardo.villagran.morales at gmail.com Wed Feb 20 13:01:25 2008 From: eduardo.villagran.morales at gmail.com (Eduardo =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Villagr=E1n?= Morales) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:01:25 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction In-Reply-To: <47BBCF01.8040108@reuschlein.de> References: <47BBCF01.8040108@reuschlein.de> Message-ID: <1203512485.2584.0.camel@caleuche> Welcome to Fedora Project!. El mi?, 20-02-2008 a las 07:56 +0100, Peter Reuschlein escribi?: > Hello everybody, > > so, as i just joined the ambassador team a short introduction about me. > My Name is Peter and i joined the ambassador team with the maingoal to > support the people organizing the LinuxDay2008 in Berlin, later on, > well, i think there are plenty things to do. Till now i just did some > translations for the german translation team (as far as i had time and > specspo didn't break my nerves down). I live in a small village near > W?rzburg (Germany) and more informations can be found on my wikipage :) > > so greetings and best regards > > Peter > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Eduardo Villagr?n Morales Embajador Fedora Linuxdiinf.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Esta parte del mensaje est? firmada digitalmente URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Feb 20 17:46:34 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:46:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] good luck at FOSDEM Message-ID: Hey all, Good luck at FOSDEM this weekend. I hope it's a great show -- I really enjoyed it there last year, and I'm sorry that I'm missing it this year. I can't wait to see all the familiar faces at LinuxTag. Please take pictures, write blog posts about the event and what you do there, etc. Let's show the entire Fedora Planet how great FOSDEM is. If you are a Fedora Ambassador and you don't have your Fedora blog linked to Fedora Planet, please Seth Vidal know. Thanks, Max From gerold at lugd.org Wed Feb 20 22:31:30 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:31:30 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM and NPO Message-ID: <1203546690.3687.19.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Hi there, as mostly of you know there comes a important weekend for EMEA Ambassadors with FOSDEM and also with the founding the Fedora EMEA - Non profit organisation as a german one. As you also know, there is a beer event http://www.fosdem.org/2008/beerevent also the Fedora planing at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008 We, who are interested in founding the NPO will meet at 8:30 p.m. starting at our hotel http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/brubr-renaissance-brussels-hotel/ where also a bunch of Ambassadors will stay. We want to scheme out, what is missing for founding and clear the rest of questions all you guys have ... So everybody is welcome to join neither the beer event nor our "internal" meeting C U soon -- Regards Gerold Kassube Fedora Ambassador Deutschland / Germany Schweiz / Switzerland Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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More than 40-50 visitors and at least 3 important national online newspaper reporting about this event!): * Blog: http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa/2008/02/21/fedora-by-night-the-day-after/ * Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fcrippa/sets/72157603949413659/ Newspapers and magazines have talked about us: * http://punto-informatico.it/p.aspx?id=2185916 * http://gnuvox.libero.it/index.php/2008/02/08/a_lodi_arriva_l_iniziativa_fedora_by_nig * http://www.ossblog.it/post/3738/fedora-by-night Slides: * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fedora-community.pdf * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fedora-technical.pdf :-) See you at FOSDEM! bye Francesco -- Francesco Crippa http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 21 05:51:58 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:51:58 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM and NPO In-Reply-To: <1203546690.3687.19.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> References: <1203546690.3687.19.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: <200802210652.03454.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2008 23:31:30 schrieb Gerold Kassube: > We, who are interested in founding the NPO will meet at 8:30 p.m. > starting at our hotel > http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/brubr-renaissance-brussels-hotel/ > where also a bunch of Ambassadors will stay. We want to scheme out, what > is missing for founding and clear the rest of questions all you guys > have ... so on Friday 22.02.? > So everybody is welcome to join neither the beer event nor our > "internal" meeting mhm - neither nor? Sorry, but is the correct intention? Ambassadors meet on 22.02. 08:30 pm at Marriott Renaissance to speak about the NPO. bye -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From gvarisco at redhat.com Thu Feb 21 06:20:43 2008 From: gvarisco at redhat.com (Gianluca Varisco) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:20:43 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora by Night - The day after In-Reply-To: <590172506.15771203550639690.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <590172506.15771203550639690.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <47BD183B.4080801@redhat.com> Francesco Crippa wrote: > Hi Ambassadors, > Hi Francesco, > just some links to see how "Fodora by Night" is gone (and it's gone really well! More than 40-50 visitors and at least 3 important national online newspaper reporting about this event!): > * Blog: http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa/2008/02/21/fedora-by-night-the-day-after/ > * Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fcrippa/sets/72157603949413659/ > > Newspapers and magazines have talked about us: > * http://punto-informatico.it/p.aspx?id=2185916 > * http://gnuvox.libero.it/index.php/2008/02/08/a_lodi_arriva_l_iniziativa_fedora_by_nig > * http://www.ossblog.it/post/3738/fedora-by-night > Congrats for the great work done by you and the rest of the organization! ;-) > Slides: > * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fedora-community.pdf > * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fedora-technical.pdf > I wonder if these beautiful slides are also available in other formats, such as OpenDocument Presentation ;-) Thanks. Cheers, -- Gianluca Varisco, RHCE Intern GPS, Red Hat Italia Tel.: +39 02 9737 4654 (direct) +39 02 5681 4487 Fax : +39 02 669 3111 Cel.: +39 333 574 0934 Address/Indirizzo: Via Antonio Da Recanate 1 20124 Milano From jmbabich at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 07:31:24 2008 From: jmbabich at gmail.com (John Babich) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:31:24 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora by Night - The day after In-Reply-To: <47BD183B.4080801@redhat.com> References: <590172506.15771203550639690.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <47BD183B.4080801@redhat.com> Message-ID: <9d2c731f0802202331k718ecf9fj93ca140a8029b3e3@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Gianluca Varisco wrote: > Francesco Crippa wrote: > > Hi Ambassadors, > Hi Francesco, > > > just some links to see how "Fodora by Night" is gone (and it's gone really well! More than 40-50 visitors and at least 3 important national online newspaper reporting about this event!): > > * Blog: http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa/2008/02/21/fedora-by-night-the-day-after/ > > * Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fcrippa/sets/72157603949413659/ > > > > Newspapers and magazines have talked about us: > > * http://punto-informatico.it/p.aspx?id=2185916 > > * http://gnuvox.libero.it/index.php/2008/02/08/a_lodi_arriva_l_iniziativa_fedora_by_nig > > * http://www.ossblog.it/post/3738/fedora-by-night > > > > Congrats for the great work done by you and the rest of the > organization! ;-) > Yes, congratulations on getting the news out! ...and thanks for taking the time to do it. Best Regards, John Babich Fedora Ambassador From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 08:46:00 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:46:00 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM and NPO In-Reply-To: <200802210652.03454.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <1203546690.3687.19.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <200802210652.03454.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <64b14b300802210046q7fe71bbfjaffdf5105ad692c4@mail.gmail.com> 2008/2/21 JoergSimon : > Am Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2008 23:31:30 schrieb Gerold Kassube: > > > We, who are interested in founding the NPO will meet at 8:30 p.m. > > starting at our hotel > > http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/brubr-renaissance-brussels-hotel/ > > where also a bunch of Ambassadors will stay. We want to scheme out, what > > is missing for founding and clear the rest of questions all you guys > > have ... > > so on Friday 22.02.? > > > > > So everybody is welcome to join neither the beer event nor our > > "internal" meeting > > mhm - neither nor? > Sorry, but is the correct intention? This got me confused also... please be as clear as possible. Thank you, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From fhornain at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 08:50:30 2008 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:50:30 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM: stands/devrooms: last update Message-ID: <3161376e0802210050k4d41793fid59fe99b25700efc@mail.gmail.com> Dear all, Almost there ;) Just one or two missed points before the event : > Could someone bring hoarding, posters, banners ? - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Hoarding?highlight=%28HOARDING%29 - I already know Francesco, Joerg and Xavier are going to do that. Please could you confirm that ? In addition, if you could be at the booth between 12:00 and 14:00 in order to prepare it before the rush. Thanks a lot for your great comprehension and you help. > Could someone bring a demo PC ? Even if a lot of ambassador are going to bring their laptop or notebook, I think it could be interesting to bring a demo PC. I know Marek have proposed to bring his one but it was not sure. Could you confirm that ? Thanks a lot in advance. >As you probably know, we are going to have only one or two physical network cable at our booth, so could someone bring a switch in order to facilitate network at our booth ? FYI, it should have wireless network anyway. Thanks a lot. For my part, I going to bring power distribution strips (as used in Belgium: type C/E [1]) - [1] http://users.pandora.be/worldstandards/electricity.htm#plugs_e - Thanks a lot for your help and your comprehension. FYI >> A few details before everyone heads off to Brussels. DEVROOMS: ~~~~~~~~~ It seems like most rooms will be empty before 14:00 hence we don't expect issues with that. But still, devrooms are only available to you from 14:00 on on Saturday. Rooms close at 19:00 *SHARP* on Saturday. Please understand that FOSDEM have to do some cleaning, close the buildings with the security staff of ULB, etc.. on Saturday evening. So I'd ask you to kindly throw everyone out at 19:00 (or before). On Sunday, we start at 09:00 and close at 18:00 (same goes as for Saturday). We'll try to follow the schedule you've sent us as closely as possible in terms of opening + closing the rooms but please bare with us if we're a few minutes late (or come bug us at the Infodesk). Don't leave the rooms unattended! If everyone is to leave the room then please poke us at one of the Infodesks _first_ so we can close the room. If you need anything or if there's an issue of any sorts, please head to one of the Infodesks (one at the main entrance in H and one at the entrance in AW (*)) -- they're equipped with friendly FOSDEM staff ;) (*) those are buildings on the Solbosch campus at ULB: http://fosdem.org/2008/maps/campus A video projector, a projection screen and an internet connection (WLAN a/b + 1 wired at the speaker's desk) will be provided. STANDS: ~~~~~~~ As a reminder, each stand is actually a table of 2m width and FOSDEM Team provide two seats per table as well as wireless (a+b) and wired (see above, please bring along cables and switches). FOSDEM Team'll try to do our best on wired but if you really, really need CAT5, better bring along an AP or wifi router (we can only guarantee wifi). FOSDEM TEAM'll stick A4 sheets with FEDORA project name on the tables so you'll know where to install your stuff. I can't tell you in which building which project will be (FOSDEM'll have stands in H and AW this year) because FOSDEM Team're going to improvise that on Friday ;) If you don't want to go around both hallways to see for yourself, poke the friendly staff at the Infodesks, they'll have a list. See you at the beer event ;) cheers Kind Regards Frederic Have Fun with F9 From gerold at lugd.org Thu Feb 21 09:00:55 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:00:55 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM and NPO In-Reply-To: <64b14b300802210046q7fe71bbfjaffdf5105ad692c4@mail.gmail.com> References: <1203546690.3687.19.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <200802210652.03454.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <64b14b300802210046q7fe71bbfjaffdf5105ad692c4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <65023.62.2.77.2.1203584455.squirrel@www.gbc.net> >> Sorry, but is the correct intention? > > This got me confused also... please be as clear as possible. > > Thank you, > Valent. ^^ Sorry there was a type mismatch from my side ... You are welcome at BOTH events *EITHER* at the beer event *NOR* at the Fedora NPO Q&A Event as mentioned ... and to whom it may concern; here I got today the last answer from the financial department who?s responsible if we found in Loerrach: "Sehr geehrter Herr Kassube, gegen den nun mit Schreiben vom 16.02.2008 vorgelgten Satzungsentwurf bestehen im Hinblick auf die Gemeinn?tzigkeit keine Bedenken. Bei Antragstellung der Gemeinn?tzigkeit ben?tige ich lediglich noch eine Kopie des Freistellungsbescheids des unter Punkt 12.4 genannten Vereins. Mit freundlichen Gr??en Oswald" Translation: ============ "Dear Mr. Kassube, with the now shown statuts dated 2008-02-16 there are now doubt against to give you the official tax reductable certification. For registration of tax reductable we need the confirmation from the entity you mentioned at point 12.4. Kind regards Oswald" Clear text: If we decide to found with the statutes I send you (this afternoon) we are able to found (in Loerrach) a tax reductable FEDORA NPO ... Questions & answers also the explaining HOW TO FOUND I will give you tomorrow at Bruxelles ... Regards Gerold From fhornain at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 09:10:40 2008 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:10:40 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM and NPO In-Reply-To: <64b14b300802210046q7fe71bbfjaffdf5105ad692c4@mail.gmail.com> References: <1203546690.3687.19.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <200802210652.03454.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <64b14b300802210046q7fe71bbfjaffdf5105ad692c4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0802210110j2238275ew93ec9db6533c371@mail.gmail.com> Hi Gerold, Well, as most people who are going to be at Brussels Friday are planed to go to the beer event I think the better place to gather will be the Delirium Cafe. For my part, I am going to wear an old Fedora or Red Hat Tee-shirt so it will be easy to find me in this large amount of people. After that and later in the evening , we could find a place in order to discuss about NPO and Fedora related subjects. Anyway, in order to avoid Fedora group split, I think the final decision should be published on the Fedora wiki page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008 Thanks for your comprehension. Have fun with F8 Cheers Frederic On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > 2008/2/21 JoergSimon : > > > Am Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2008 23:31:30 schrieb Gerold Kassube: > > > > > We, who are interested in founding the NPO will meet at 8:30 p.m. > > > starting at our hotel > > > http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/brubr-renaissance-brussels-hotel/ > > > where also a bunch of Ambassadors will stay. We want to scheme out, what > > > is missing for founding and clear the rest of questions all you guys > > > have ... > > > > so on Friday 22.02.? > > > > > > > > > So everybody is welcome to join neither the beer event nor our > > > "internal" meeting > > > > mhm - neither nor? > > Sorry, but is the correct intention? > > This got me confused also... please be as clear as possible. > > Thank you, > Valent. > -- > http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ > linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless > registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. > ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 21 09:22:31 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:22:31 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM and NPO In-Reply-To: <3161376e0802210110j2238275ew93ec9db6533c371@mail.gmail.com> References: <1203546690.3687.19.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <64b14b300802210046q7fe71bbfjaffdf5105ad692c4@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0802210110j2238275ew93ec9db6533c371@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200802211022.36810.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Donnerstag, 21. Februar 2008 10:10:40 schrieb Frederic Hornain: > Hi Gerold, > > Well, as most people who are going to be at Brussels Friday are planed > to go to the beer event I think the better place to gather will be > the Delirium Cafe. > > For my part, I am going to wear an old Fedora or Red Hat Tee-shirt so > it will be easy to find me in this large amount of people. > > After that and later in the evening , we could find a place in order > to discuss about NPO and Fedora related subjects. > > Anyway, in order to avoid Fedora group split, I think the final > decision should be published on the Fedora wiki page : > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008 > > Thanks for your comprehension. see https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-January/msg00164.html we should have discuss this much earlier! CU -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From chiheb.chabchoub at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 09:26:46 2008 From: chiheb.chabchoub at gmail.com (Chabchoub Chiheb) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:26:46 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora by Night - The day after In-Reply-To: <590172506.15771203550639690.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <590172506.15771203550639690.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: 2008/2/21, Francesco Crippa : > > Hi Ambassadors, > > just some links to see how "Fodora by Night" is gone (and it's gone really > well! More than 40-50 visitors and at least 3 important national online > newspaper reporting about this event!): > * Blog: > http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa/2008/02/21/fedora-by-night-the-day-after/ > * Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fcrippa/sets/72157603949413659/ > > Newspapers and magazines have talked about us: > * http://punto-informatico.it/p.aspx?id=2185916 > * > http://gnuvox.libero.it/index.php/2008/02/08/a_lodi_arriva_l_iniziativa_fedora_by_nig > * http://www.ossblog.it/post/3738/fedora-by-night > > Slides: > * > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fedora-community.pdf > * > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fedora-technical.pdf > > :-) > > See you at FOSDEM! > bye > > Francesco > > -- > Francesco Crippa > http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Very good work !! 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Februar 2008 10:33:21 schrieb Frederic Hornain: > Oops, it seems I have not seen these posts > Sorry for that. > > So if something have been planned, it could be interesting to publish > it on the wiki page > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008 > Thanks > > Nonetheless, both event are not contradictory, people can go to the > beer event and then go to the NPO event. You are right. To be honest - because i am a lazy old man ;-P - i will spare my power and prepare myself for the saturday ;-) and will stay in the Hotel where the NPO Discussion take place. The Beer event last year, was at another place - i was there for 5 Minutes - i hope for the people who will participate, that they have a lot of fun! CU -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What do you thing about that ? Cheers Fred 2008/2/21 JoergSimon : > Am Donnerstag, 21. Februar 2008 10:10:40 schrieb Frederic Hornain: > > > Hi Gerold, > > > > Well, as most people who are going to be at Brussels Friday are planed > > to go to the beer event I think the better place to gather will be > > the Delirium Cafe. > > > > For my part, I am going to wear an old Fedora or Red Hat Tee-shirt so > > it will be easy to find me in this large amount of people. > > > > After that and later in the evening , we could find a place in order > > to discuss about NPO and Fedora related subjects. > > > > Anyway, in order to avoid Fedora group split, I think the final > > decision should be published on the Fedora wiki page : > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008 > > > > Thanks for your comprehension. > > see > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-January/msg00164.html > we should have discuss this much earlier! > > CU > > > > -- > J?rg Simon > jsimon at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon > Key Fingerprint: > 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 21 11:40:37 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:40:37 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador Polos on Fosdem!!! Attention Message-ID: <200802211240.41850.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Hello Ambassadors, right now the vendor told me he send the charge of Polo Shirts we ordered to Poland - :-( - I told them twice to change the Place of delivery So i try to solve the situation, but i am not sure if we have Polos on Fosdem. When not, we have nothing to lose - but we will not get Polos in the worst case :-( So those who ordered, put some clothes more in your bag. @PawelSadowski !!!DO NOT!!! accept deliveries from SantaFeTex except you can bring it to Fosdem! Cheers Joerg -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From fcrippa at byte-code.com Thu Feb 21 13:22:12 2008 From: fcrippa at byte-code.com (Francesco Crippa) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:22:12 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora by Night - The day after In-Reply-To: <855064380.16391203599873905.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <645732781.16411203600132139.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> ----- "Gianluca Varisco" wrote: > [...] > I wonder if these beautiful slides are also available in other > formats, > such as OpenDocument Presentation ;-) > [...] Of course! I just uploaded them (.odp and SVG/PNG of some graphics made for these presentations): http://fcrippa.fedorapeople.org/fedora-by-night/ Bye Francesco -- Francesco Crippa http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 21 13:27:15 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:27:15 +0100 Subject: Update: [Ambassadors] Ambassador Polos on Fosdem!!! Attention Message-ID: <200802211427.20241.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Donnerstag, 21. Februar 2008 12:40:37 schrieb JoergSimon: > Hello Ambassadors, > > right now the vendor told me he send the charge of Polo Shirts we ordered > to Poland - :-( - I told them twice to change the Place of delivery > So i try to solve the situation, but i am not sure if we have Polos on > Fosdem. > > When not, we have nothing to lose - but we will not get Polos in the worst > case :-( > So those who ordered, put some clothes more in your bag. > > @PawelSadowski !!!DO NOT!!! accept deliveries from SantaFeTex except you > can bring it to Fosdem! The Delivery for Fosdem is stopped. They are not able to ship it to Brussels till saturday. I am so sorry to disappoint your joyful anticipation :?( I am powerless! We will not have Poloshirts on Fosdem! Joerg The Vendor will store the charge so i have not to pay for his mistake. Next time you can order for Linuxtag, i will post it on the wiki next Week - then hopefully to order in the name of "Fedora EMEA e.V." -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 21 17:05:08 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:05:08 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora by Night - The day after In-Reply-To: <590172506.15771203550639690.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <590172506.15771203550639690.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: 2008/2/21, Francesco Crippa : > Hi Ambassadors, > > just some links to see how "Fodora by Night" is gone (and it's gone really well! More than 40-50 visitors and at least 3 important national online newspaper reporting about this event!): > * Blog: http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa/2008/02/21/fedora-by-night-the-day-after/ > * Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fcrippa/sets/72157603949413659/ > > Newspapers and magazines have talked about us: > * http://punto-informatico.it/p.aspx?id=2185916 > * http://gnuvox.libero.it/index.php/2008/02/08/a_lodi_arriva_l_iniziativa_fedora_by_nig > * http://www.ossblog.it/post/3738/fedora-by-night > > Slides: > * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fedora-community.pdf > * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fedora-technical.pdf > > :-) > > See you at FOSDEM! > bye > > Francesco > > -- > Francesco Crippa > http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Great! This is an excellent result. Regards Francesco Ugolini From gerold at lugd.org Thu Feb 21 22:39:33 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:39:33 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM 2008 Message-ID: <1203633573.3426.1.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Hi there, is it possible for somebody that he brings a printer with himself? On Saturday we need some prints to do? Please answer earlier than 12 o'clock on friday, when you're able to do so. Thanks in advance -- Regards Gerold Kassube Fedora Ambassador Deutschland / Germany Schweiz / Switzerland Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Copies of the Statutes (english and german) very much appreciated. Still, a printer would be even better ;-) Regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From fusion94 at gmail.com Fri Feb 22 01:33:22 2008 From: fusion94 at gmail.com (Tony Guntharp) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:33:22 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Redhat Legal Message-ID: <78f7d5500802211733h551c76cm320c6014c94c4691@mail.gmail.com> So someone at Redhat sent the Data Portability Group (http://www.dataportability.org) a cease and desist in regards to the similarity of the logo. I'm surprised at this as the fedora logo is a color schemed version of the infinity symbol. Which I believe cannot be trademarked as the infinity symbol would definately fall under prior art. Karsten Wade: care to research this further or point me to the proper asshat at Redhat ? thanks -t -- Tony Guntharp Co-Founder SourceForge.net fusion94 at gmail.com From matthiaskranz at gmx.de Fri Feb 22 07:08:02 2008 From: matthiaskranz at gmx.de (Matthias Kranz) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:08:02 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Redhat Legal In-Reply-To: <78f7d5500802211733h551c76cm320c6014c94c4691@mail.gmail.com> References: <78f7d5500802211733h551c76cm320c6014c94c4691@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1203664082.4517.2.camel@dhcp-0-189.muc.redhat.com> On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 17:33 -0800, Tony Guntharp wrote: > So someone at Redhat sent the Data Portability Group > (http://www.dataportability.org) a cease and desist in regards to the > similarity of the logo. > > I'm surprised at this as the fedora logo is a color schemed version of > the infinity symbol. Which I believe cannot be trademarked as the > infinity symbol would definately fall under prior art. > > Karsten Wade: care to research this further or point me to the proper > asshat at Redhat ? Tony, I will send you an appropriate contact within Red Hat via personal email. Cheers, Matthias -- Matthias Kranz http://mkr.oerks.de From kwade at redhat.com Fri Feb 22 17:24:32 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:24:32 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Redhat Legal In-Reply-To: <78f7d5500802211733h551c76cm320c6014c94c4691@mail.gmail.com> References: <78f7d5500802211733h551c76cm320c6014c94c4691@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1203701072.26506.341.camel@calliope.phig.org> Let's consolidate discussion on fedora-marketing-list, unless it moves on from there, just to keep things together. On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 17:33 -0800, Tony Guntharp wrote: > So someone at Redhat sent the Data Portability Group > (http://www.dataportability.org) a cease and desist in regards to the > similarity of the logo. > > I'm surprised at this as the fedora logo is a color schemed version of > the infinity symbol. Which I believe cannot be trademarked as the > infinity symbol would definately fall under prior art. > > Karsten Wade: care to research this further or point me to the proper > asshat at Redhat ? > > thanks > > -t > -- Karsten Wade, Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From stickster at gmail.com Sat Feb 23 14:00:17 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:00:17 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora EMEA and Trademark Usage Message-ID: <1203775217.5201.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> The Fedora Board grants permission to use the FEDORA trademarks to the new Fedora EMEA group, provided that it: 1. furthers the Fedora Project's mission, adheres to its principles, and uses proceeds exclusively for those purposes; 2. promotes the Fedora brand in a consistent, positive, and constructive way; and, 3. makes a quarterly report to the Fedora Project Board. The Fedora Project Board retains the rights to make its decisions whether to permit usage of the FEDORA trademarks on a case by case basis, and to limit or withdraw permission to use the Fedora trademarks for any reason and at any time. Previously, the Fedora Project has granted limited trademark use permissions to the following unaffiliated groups: Fedora News, Fedora Forum, Fedora FAQ, Fedora Unity, and Fedora France. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From kanarip at kanarip.com Sat Feb 23 15:22:29 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:22:29 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora EMEA and Trademark Usage In-Reply-To: <1203775217.5201.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1203775217.5201.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <47C03A35.5020302@kanarip.com> Paul W. Frields wrote: > The Fedora Board grants permission to use the FEDORA trademarks to the > new Fedora EMEA group, provided that it: > > 1. furthers the Fedora Project's mission, adheres to its principles, > and uses proceeds exclusively for those purposes; > 2. promotes the Fedora brand in a consistent, positive, and > constructive way; and, > 3. makes a quarterly report to the Fedora Project Board. > > The Fedora Project Board retains the rights to make its decisions > whether to permit usage of the FEDORA trademarks on a case by case > basis, and to limit or withdraw permission to use the Fedora trademarks > for any reason and at any time. > > Previously, the Fedora Project has granted limited trademark use > permissions to the following unaffiliated groups: Fedora News, Fedora > Forum, Fedora FAQ, Fedora Unity, and Fedora France. > Thank you Paul (and the rest of the Board) for the trust you have in Fedora EMEA, and thank you for clearing up the trademark issue and getting it out of the way for us in such a short period of time. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From mspevack at redhat.com Sat Feb 23 17:21:11 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:21:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM reports Message-ID: Thank you to everyone who is blogging about FOSDEM. It is wonderful to read so many different descriptions of the event. Please keep it up! A blog post every day during the event is wonderful. I am gathering together links to the blogs and photos on the wiki. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008 See you all soon, Max From johan at x-tnd.be Sun Feb 24 18:05:20 2008 From: johan at x-tnd.be (Johan Cwiklinski) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:05:20 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Local Language Spins In-Reply-To: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47C1B1E0.9010705@x-tnd.be> Rahul Sundaram a ?crit : > Hi, > > As some of you might be aware already, I am working on several > regional language spins and have created a basic set of kickstart > files that can be easily reused to create say a Fedora Greek Spin or > French Spin or whatever language you use and want to promote. All of > the Indian language spins inherit > > http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/spins/livecd-fedora-8-base-desktop-localized.ks > > > Then merely add the language code, timezone settings and language > support. One example is > > http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/spins/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-hindi.ks > > This is simple enough and since many of the ambassadors are involved > with the L10N efforts in Fedora, I would encourage you to take a look > at this and promote spin variants for your local language. If you need > any help, feel free to mail to fedora-livecd-list. More information at > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo > > If you want to propose the spin officially, > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/CustomSpins > > If you need help with the processes, let me know. I am mether on > freenode IRC and usually hang out in #fedora-devel, #fedora-india and > other channels. > > Rahul Hello, I'm very interested in making a LiveCD for my native language (French). Thanks to Rahul's work, I've already rebuilt a spin, which is currently tested by some friends of mine. I'll be glad to offer my work on Fedora Spins (I had previously built a livecd in French for fc6, but it was hosted only on our fedora-fr.org server). It will be cool to officialize this method for localization of live spins. Could we achieve a procedure for submitting localized .ks files based on official Fedora live cds ? Johan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Frields: > The Fedora Board grants permission to use the FEDORA trademarks to the > new Fedora EMEA group, provided that it: > > 1. furthers the Fedora Project's mission, adheres to its principles, > and uses proceeds exclusively for those purposes; > 2. promotes the Fedora brand in a consistent, positive, and > constructive way; and, > 3. makes a quarterly report to the Fedora Project Board. > > The Fedora Project Board retains the rights to make its decisions > whether to permit usage of the FEDORA trademarks on a case by case > basis, and to limit or withdraw permission to use the Fedora trademarks > for any reason and at any time. > > Previously, the Fedora Project has granted limited trademark use > permissions to the following unaffiliated groups: Fedora News, Fedora > Forum, Fedora FAQ, Fedora Unity, and Fedora France. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Gerold Kassube -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Rahul From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Feb 25 02:57:09 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:57:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora EMEA and Trademark Usage In-Reply-To: <1203886617.3495.46.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> References: <1203775217.5201.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1203886617.3495.46.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, Gerold Kassube wrote: > It will be a pleasure for us to bring point 3 of your mail to your > attention. Would you please so kind and define us your wishes what you > like to have in that report that we can create it or a given template? > That would be really nice to see how we can please you as you want it > :-) I recommend that the Fedora Board delegate to me the responsibility of reporting back on "Fedora's progress in EMEA" frequently, and "state of the Fedora NPO" as part of that report quarterly. I can work with everyone, and put it together in a way that will be useful for the community, the Fedora Board, and Red Hat all at the same time. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Feb 25 03:00:13 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:00:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Local Language Spins In-Reply-To: <47C1B1E0.9010705@x-tnd.be> References: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> <47C1B1E0.9010705@x-tnd.be> Message-ID: On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, Johan Cwiklinski wrote: > It will be cool to officialize this method for localization of live > spins. Could we achieve a procedure for submitting localized .ks files > based on official Fedora live cds ? One of my goals for the year is for us to have localized spins at every event that we attend. This involves: (1) Getting kickstart files that are approved, have good package sets, and are updated for the current Fedora release for each event that we go to on the Fedora Events wiki page. Consistency here is very important. I think we should use the work that Rahul has already been doing, and simply expand it out to French, German, Spanish, Italian, Brazilian Portuguese, etc. etc. (2) Having a central location where we inventory those spins -- critically important. (3) For the large events, mass-producing LiveCDs with those spins. (4) Having those spins locally on machines at the events so that we can take people's USB keys and turn them into localized Fedora LiveUSBs. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Feb 25 03:27:18 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:27:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Summary of FOSDEM reports Message-ID: I've collected up as many of the FOSDEM reports as I could find: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008#reports Feel free to add others. I really enjoyed reading all of these, and my sincere thanks to everyone who took the time to write them up. These reports are the only "proof" that we have for everyone who is not at the event of why it is useful to spend the time and money to actually be visible and present in our community. --Max From danishka at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 07:36:18 2008 From: danishka at gmail.com (Danishka Navin) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:06:18 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Local Language Spins In-Reply-To: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Rahul, keep it up your good work :) Danishka On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > As some of you might be aware already, I am working on several regional > language spins and have created a basic set of kickstart files that can > be easily reused to create say a Fedora Greek Spin or French Spin or > whatever language you use and want to promote. All of the Indian > language spins inherit > > > http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/spins/livecd-fedora-8-base-desktop-localized.ks > > Then merely add the language code, timezone settings and language > support. One example is > > http://sundaram.fedorapeople.org/spins/livecd-fedora-8-desktop-hindi.ks > > This is simple enough and since many of the ambassadors are involved > with the L10N efforts in Fedora, I would encourage you to take a look at > this and promote spin variants for your local language. If you need any > help, feel free to mail to fedora-livecd-list. More information at > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/LiveCDHowTo > > If you want to propose the spin officially, > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/CustomSpins > > If you need help with the processes, let me know. I am mether on > freenode IRC and usually hang out in #fedora-devel, #fedora-india and > other channels. > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Danishka Navin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jkeating at redhat.com Mon Feb 25 15:01:22 2008 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:01:22 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Local Language Spins In-Reply-To: References: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> <47C1B1E0.9010705@x-tnd.be> Message-ID: <20080225100122.7edc2632@redhat.com> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:00:13 -0500 (EST) Max Spevack wrote: > (1) Getting kickstart files that are approved, have good package > sets, and are updated for the current Fedora release for each event > that we go to on the Fedora Events wiki page. Consistency here is > very important. I think we should use the work that Rahul has already > been doing, and simply expand it out to French, German, Spanish, > Italian, Brazilian Portuguese, etc. etc. > > (2) Having a central location where we inventory those spins -- > critically important. > > (3) For the large events, mass-producing LiveCDs with those spins. > > (4) Having those spins locally on machines at the events so that we > can take people's USB keys and turn them into localized Fedora > LiveUSBs. (5) Having long term storage plans for the spins + the sources used to create the spins (6) Having enough QA heads to wrap around all these new spins that will be popping up of mixed package sets / ages -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 25 15:12:41 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:42:41 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora EMEA and Trademark Usage In-Reply-To: <20080225145751.GA10518@domsch.com> References: <1203775217.5201.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1203886617.3495.46.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <20080225145751.GA10518@domsch.com> Message-ID: <47C2DAE9.7080905@fedoraproject.org> Matt Domsch wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 09:57:09PM -0500, Max Spevack wrote: >> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, Gerold Kassube wrote: >> >>> It will be a pleasure for us to bring point 3 of your mail to your >>> attention. Would you please so kind and define us your wishes what you >>> like to have in that report that we can create it or a given template? >>> That would be really nice to see how we can please you as you want it >>> :-) >> I recommend that the Fedora Board delegate to me the responsibility of >> reporting back on "Fedora's progress in EMEA" frequently, and "state of >> the Fedora NPO" as part of that report quarterly. >> >> I can work with everyone, and put it together in a way that will be >> useful for the community, the Fedora Board, and Red Hat all at the same >> time. > > I want the responsibility to lie with the Fedora EMEA NPO, but _they_ > may delegate to Max to do the actual reporting. I'm sure Max can > craft a useful reporting template to be used not just for EMEA, but > elsewhere as may be fitting in the future. Also, it would be useful for the report details to be public or atleast more information on what is being reported. Rahul From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Feb 25 15:22:31 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:22:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Local Language Spins In-Reply-To: <20080225100122.7edc2632@redhat.com> References: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> <47C1B1E0.9010705@x-tnd.be> <20080225100122.7edc2632@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Jesse Keating wrote: >> (1) Getting kickstart files that are approved, have good package >> sets, and are updated for the current Fedora release for each event >> that we go to on the Fedora Events wiki page. Consistency here is >> very important. I think we should use the work that Rahul has already >> been doing, and simply expand it out to French, German, Spanish, >> Italian, Brazilian Portuguese, etc. etc. >> >> (2) Having a central location where we inventory those spins -- >> critically important. >> >> (3) For the large events, mass-producing LiveCDs with those spins. >> >> (4) Having those spins locally on machines at the events so that we >> can take people's USB keys and turn them into localized Fedora >> LiveUSBs. > > (5) Having long term storage plans for the spins + the sources used to > create the spins > > (6) Having enough QA heads to wrap around all these new spins that > will be popping up of mixed package sets / ages Indeed. In fact, I believe those are some of the things that Rahul is taking into consideration in his "so you want to make a localized spin of Fedora" walkthrough/process document. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Feb 25 15:58:04 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:58:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora EMEA and Trademark Usage In-Reply-To: <47C2DAE9.7080905@fedoraproject.org> References: <1203775217.5201.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1203886617.3495.46.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <20080225145751.GA10518@domsch.com> <47C2DAE9.7080905@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Also, it would be useful for the report details to be public or > atleast more information on what is being reported. I would plan for total transparency. And +1 to Matt's comment. Make the actual NPO own the responsibility, but if they choose to, they can delegate it down to me as the liason between that NPO and Fedora/RH. --Max From kanarip at kanarip.com Mon Feb 25 16:21:15 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:21:15 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora EMEA and Trademark Usage In-Reply-To: References: <1203775217.5201.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1203886617.3495.46.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <20080225145751.GA10518@domsch.com> <47C2DAE9.7080905@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47C2EAFB.9030909@kanarip.com> Max Spevack wrote: > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> Also, it would be useful for the report details to be public or >> atleast more information on what is being reported. > > I would plan for total transparency. > So do we, other then a board-list anything else is out in the open. > And +1 to Matt's comment. Make the actual NPO own the responsibility, > but if they choose to, they can delegate it down to me as the liason > between that NPO and Fedora/RH. > And we'll probably need it, so I appreciate the offer. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From gerold at lugd.org Mon Feb 25 17:20:17 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:20:17 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora NPO founded at FOSDEM in Bruxelles Message-ID: <56629.212.97.101.115.1203960017.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Dear *, it is a great pleasure for us to share with you the official announcement of the Fedora EMEA NPO as you can read below: The idea of improving the way in which Fedora is supported started in 2006, and has been given shape and carefully prepared during the following year. On February 23rd, 2008, conform German Law and established in the German district L?rrach, 10 active members of the European Fedora Community founded a non-profit association called "Fedora EMEA e.V.". This foundation increases the possibilities to inform a broader mass about the Fedora Project and forms a focal point and economic base for Fedora Project supporters. For companies and other organizations, the Fedora Project supporters are now organized in a solid, efficient and transparent way. The foundation reports to the Fedora Project regularly. As President of the Board, the members elected Gerold Kassube (Germany), long-time member of the Fedora Ambassador Team. The members also elected Jeroen van Meeuwen (The Netherlands), and Fabian Affolter (Switzerland) to become the organization's Vice-Presidents, and trusted Robert Scheck (Germany) to manage the foundations assets. In just a few weeks, during LinuxTag 2008 in Germany, the foundation has it's first General Members Assembly. Because all parties involved still have a lot of work to do, the necessary information to support the organization and membership subscription forms will become available online in the near future. On behalf of the Board Gerold Kassube From igorsoares at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 19:33:28 2008 From: igorsoares at gmail.com (Igor Pires Soares) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:33:28 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Local Language Spins In-Reply-To: References: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> <47C1B1E0.9010705@x-tnd.be> Message-ID: <1203968008.7997.39.camel@AMD5600> Em Dom, 2008-02-24 ?s 22:00 -0500, Max Spevack escreveu: > On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, Johan Cwiklinski wrote: > > > It will be cool to officialize this method for localization of live > > spins. Could we achieve a procedure for submitting localized .ks files > > based on official Fedora live cds ? > > One of my goals for the year is for us to have localized spins at every > event that we attend. > > This involves: > > (1) Getting kickstart files that are approved, have good package sets, > and are updated for the current Fedora release for each event that we go > to on the Fedora Events wiki page. Consistency here is very important. > I think we should use the work that Rahul has already been doing, and > simply expand it out to French, German, Spanish, Italian, Brazilian > Portuguese, etc. etc. I am interested in a Fedora Spin for Brazilian Portuguese, but there are a few things I am concerned about. For instance, the use of Codeina. It doesn't make sense here in Brazil because people should have an international credit card to pay for the codecs, besides the interface is not even translated. This is critical to warn the users about the use of this codecs. The easiest solution is to drop codeina from our spin, the other one could be offer a different implementation respecting each national legislation about IP. I don't have the legal background to talk about it, but we could investigate the possibility to offer via Codeina those codecs that are not possible in the US. Additionally, other local groups could investigate if there are problems with the current implementation, there may be countries more restricted than US. I know this is very complex and controversial, but I am just thinking about the possible scenarios and just for distribution in events. The translation issue could we solved integrating Codeina into the Transifex system, since it does not appear to be available in the GNOME project translations as well. Local Language spins are definitely a good idea and we could improve it respecting the local differences, which by the way turns it in a more complicated issue. Regards, Igor Pires Soares From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Feb 25 20:08:11 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:08:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Local Language Spins In-Reply-To: <1203968008.7997.39.camel@AMD5600> References: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> <47C1B1E0.9010705@x-tnd.be> <1203968008.7997.39.camel@AMD5600> Message-ID: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Igor Pires Soares wrote: > I am interested in a Fedora Spin for Brazilian Portuguese, but there > are a few things I am concerned about. I am interested in this as well, especially with FISL coming up in April. It would be great to have a Brazilian Portugues spin that folks can use. Here is how I would encourage you to start (and actually how I would encourage anyone who wants to begin dabbling with a custom spin to start): (1) Install the livecd-tools package on your machine, and take a look at the .ks files that were used to create the "official" Fedora 8 spins. (2) Using those as an inspiration, create a .ks file for yourself, that is what you believe the ideal desktop package set for someone living in Brazil, who is a native speaker would want to use. (3) Build it using livecd-creator, and test it out a bit. One good way to do this is by putting it on a USB key with the livecd-iso-to-disk utility. (4) Once you are pretty happy, publish your .ks file for others to look at and suggest comments on. This will all be based on Fedora 8. (5) OPTIONAL -- FISL is on April 17th, by which point we are likely to have a release candidate for Fedora 9. Once your Fedora 8 spin is working like a charm, you can change the repositories to point to development and see what the same spin, coming from Rawhide looks like. We would have to do significant testing of it, but it's likely to only get better and better as Fedora 9 approaches. (6) We figure out a plan for maintenance of the spin, and for hosting of the ISOs. But until there is something actually working, this is not much of a worry, because it's simply a bunch of text in a .ks file, and hosting that is trivial. --Max From nushio at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 25 19:57:47 2008 From: nushio at fedoraproject.org (Juan Rodriguez) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:57:47 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Local Language Spins In-Reply-To: <1203968008.7997.39.camel@AMD5600> References: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> <47C1B1E0.9010705@x-tnd.be> <1203968008.7997.39.camel@AMD5600> Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Igor Pires Soares wrote: > Em Dom, 2008-02-24 ?s 22:00 -0500, Max Spevack escreveu: > > On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, Johan Cwiklinski wrote: > > > > > It will be cool to officialize this method for localization of live > > > spins. Could we achieve a procedure for submitting localized .ks files > > > based on official Fedora live cds ? > > > > One of my goals for the year is for us to have localized spins at every > > event that we attend. > > > > This involves: > > > > (1) Getting kickstart files that are approved, have good package sets, > > and are updated for the current Fedora release for each event that we go > > to on the Fedora Events wiki page. Consistency here is very important. > > I think we should use the work that Rahul has already been doing, and > > simply expand it out to French, German, Spanish, Italian, Brazilian > > Portuguese, etc. etc. > > I am interested in a Fedora Spin for Brazilian Portuguese, but there are > a few things I am concerned about. > > For instance, the use of Codeina. It doesn't make sense here in Brazil > because people should have an international credit card to pay for the > codecs, besides the interface is not even translated. This is critical > to warn the users about the use of this codecs. > > The easiest solution is to drop codeina from our spin, the other one > could be offer a different implementation respecting each national > legislation about IP. I don't have the legal background to talk about > it, but we could investigate the possibility to offer via Codeina those > codecs that are not possible in the US. Additionally, other local groups > could investigate if there are problems with the current implementation, > there may be countries more restricted than US. > > I know this is very complex and controversial, but I am just thinking > about the possible scenarios and just for distribution in events. > > The translation issue could we solved integrating Codeina into the > Transifex system, since it does not appear to be available in the GNOME > project translations as well. > > Local Language spins are definitely a good idea and we could improve it > respecting the local differences, which by the way turns it in a more > complicated issue. > > Regards, > Igor Pires Soares > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Thats a very good question Igor, Can local spins include FOSS that could otherwise not be included? For instance, in Mexico there are no such things as software patents. Thus making things like DVD CSS and MP3 patents not legal, of course we're supposed to respect the patents of USA and Canada, but as far as I know that has yet to be tested in court and IANAL. Regardless of the situation in Mexico the question is still valid, would it be allowed to release a spin that includes codecs and whatnot that could not be included in the official Fedora repositories due to patents? -- Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos Sitio: www.isocron.net [En Construcci?n] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Official spins can only be subsets of whatever is included in the official Fedora repository and since Red Hat is the legal entity behind Fedora, any software included within Fedora needs to be legal in U.S Rahul From jrodriguez at isocron.net Mon Feb 25 21:02:22 2008 From: jrodriguez at isocron.net (Juan Rodriguez) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:02:22 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Local Language Spins In-Reply-To: <47C325CD.8090209@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> <47C1B1E0.9010705@x-tnd.be> <1203968008.7997.39.camel@AMD5600> <47C325CD.8090209@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Juan Rodriguez wrote: > > > Regardless of the situation in Mexico the question is still valid, would > > it be allowed to release a spin that includes codecs and whatnot that > > could not be included in the official Fedora repositories due to > patents? > > AFAIK, no. Official spins can only be subsets of whatever is included in > the official Fedora repository and since Red Hat is the legal entity > behind Fedora, any software included within Fedora needs to be legal in > U.S > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Thanks for clearing that up :-) -- Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos Sitio: www.isocron.net [En Construcci?n] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Feb 25 22:10:33 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:10:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Local Language Spins In-Reply-To: <47C325CD.8090209@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> <47C1B1E0.9010705@x-tnd.be> <1203968008.7997.39.camel@AMD5600> <47C325CD.8090209@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Regardless of the situation in Mexico the question is still valid, >> would it be allowed to release a spin that includes codecs and >> whatnot that could not be included in the official Fedora >> repositories due to patents? > > AFAIK, no. Official spins can only be subsets of whatever is included > in the official Fedora repository and since Red Hat is the legal > entity behind Fedora, any software included within Fedora needs to be > legal in U.S If you include anything in a spin that is not in the Fedora repositories, then the spin can no longer be called "Fedora". But on a *technical* level, you can do whatever you want. But to call something Fedora, it must contain Fedora-only packages. --Max From kanarip at kanarip.com Mon Feb 25 23:08:09 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:08:09 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Local Language Spins In-Reply-To: References: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> <47C1B1E0.9010705@x-tnd.be> <1203968008.7997.39.camel@AMD5600> Message-ID: <47C34A59.4030209@kanarip.com> Max Spevack wrote: > (6) We figure out a plan for maintenance of the spin, and for hosting of > the ISOs. But until there is something actually working, this is not > much of a worry, because it's simply a bunch of text in a .ks file, and > hosting that is trivial. > Basically there *cannot* be a problem in getting a live spin in any language pass Q&A if the (default) language is all that has changed, or if OOo(-langpack) is all that has been added. Part of how Release Engineering and Q&A wanted to compose the live spins had to do reproducibility, so if the same spin off the same tree is being reproduced several times with only a different language each, giving a thumbs up to each of those spins should be a breeze. Quality cannot be a problem considering the way the compose tools have been set up, and if quantity is a problem, really, you're back to a quality problem in the compose tools and reproducibility becomes utopia. Hosting the ISOs (considering the footprint) is the tricky part I'd like to get involved with. Or actually, it's the amount of downloading from the user perspective that I'm concerned with, but it's the same difference. Presumably, ~90% of the localized Live Spins (or any Live Spin?) is the same, give or take a dozen. I'm seeking a way to not have to host/download that ~90% twice or even more often. It's a squashfs in ISO9660, I'm sure there is a way of finding out what blocks match between the spins (squashfs) and get something jigdo-like to reduce the spin's footprints to a bare minimum. This could potentially include modifications to livecd-tools as to make the common bits end up on ext3 in a way that makes them go in the same place on the squashfs image, and finally on the ISO9660 image, but that is beyond the scope of what I would want to do for a showcase. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From igorsoares at gmail.com Tue Feb 26 00:22:31 2008 From: igorsoares at gmail.com (Igor Pires Soares) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:22:31 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Local Language Spins In-Reply-To: References: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> <47C1B1E0.9010705@x-tnd.be> <1203968008.7997.39.camel@AMD5600> Message-ID: <1203985351.5358.14.camel@AMD5600> Em Seg, 2008-02-25 ?s 15:08 -0500, Max Spevack escreveu: > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Igor Pires Soares wrote: > > > I am interested in a Fedora Spin for Brazilian Portuguese, but there > > are a few things I am concerned about. > > I am interested in this as well, especially with FISL coming up in > April. It would be great to have a Brazilian Portugues spin that folks > can use. I will start some tests here. Possibly, in April we will have a pretty stable Fedora 8 spin and maybe a Rawhide one. I am sure that the Fedora LiveUSB key feature will be a cool thing to implement at FISL, because last year we already had some people asking for it. From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 26 00:52:34 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:22:34 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Local Language Spins In-Reply-To: <1203985351.5358.14.camel@AMD5600> References: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> <47C1B1E0.9010705@x-tnd.be> <1203968008.7997.39.camel@AMD5600> <1203985351.5358.14.camel@AMD5600> Message-ID: <47C362D2.5000205@fedoraproject.org> Igor Pires Soares wrote: > Em Seg, 2008-02-25 ?s 15:08 -0500, Max Spevack escreveu: >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Igor Pires Soares wrote: >> >>> I am interested in a Fedora Spin for Brazilian Portuguese, but there >>> are a few things I am concerned about. >> I am interested in this as well, especially with FISL coming up in >> April. It would be great to have a Brazilian Portugues spin that folks >> can use. > > I will start some tests here. Possibly, in April we will have a pretty > stable Fedora 8 spin and maybe a Rawhide one. I am sure that the Fedora > LiveUSB key feature will be a cool thing to implement at FISL, because > last year we already had some people asking for it. Note that there is a Windows version available too at https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ Rahul From stickster at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 23:47:38 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:47:38 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora EMEA and Trademark Usage In-Reply-To: <47C2EAFB.9030909@kanarip.com> References: <1203775217.5201.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1203886617.3495.46.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <20080225145751.GA10518@domsch.com> <47C2DAE9.7080905@fedoraproject.org> <47C2EAFB.9030909@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <1203983258.5201.131.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 17:21 +0100, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Max Spevack wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > >> Also, it would be useful for the report details to be public or > >> atleast more information on what is being reported. > > > > I would plan for total transparency. > > So do we, other then a board-list anything else is out in the open. > > > And +1 to Matt's comment. Make the actual NPO own the responsibility, > > but if they choose to, they can delegate it down to me as the liason > > between that NPO and Fedora/RH. > > > > And we'll probably need it, so I appreciate the offer. I'm very excited about the opportunity Fedora EMEA will have to develop Fedora's image and footprint in the region. I highly encourage the Fedora EMEA group to continue to use Max as a resource, but also remind them that just as for any other community members, the Fedora Advisory Board and the Fedora Project Board are here for you as well. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Official spins can only be subsets of whatever is > included in > the official Fedora repository and since Red Hat is the legal > entity > behind Fedora, any software included within Fedora needs to be > legal in U.S > > Rahul Note that my question is a little bit different. What I am trying to figure out is weather we can make modifications in Codeina configuration in order to support other codecs packages in some regions, not to include codecs directly on the distribution, because of what Rahul and Max said. I am in favor to keep the local language spin package selection as near as possible to the LiveCD, as well as the default applications. We could just add or remove some of them to fit the local needs. That's why I am considering this things about Codeina. The current implementation does not correspond to our reality. If we can't change it, I see no point to keep it in our local spin. Regards, Igor Pires Soares From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 26 01:09:40 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:39:40 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Local Language Spins In-Reply-To: <1203987446.5358.36.camel@AMD5600> References: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> <47C1B1E0.9010705@x-tnd.be> <1203968008.7997.39.camel@AMD5600> <47C325CD.8090209@fedoraproject.org> <1203987446.5358.36.camel@AMD5600> Message-ID: <47C366D4.4000609@fedoraproject.org> Igor Pires Soares wrote: > Note that my question is a little bit different. What I am trying to > figure out is weather we can make modifications in Codeina configuration > in order to support other codecs packages in some regions, not to > include codecs directly on the distribution, because of what Rahul and > Max said. Modifications to Codeina can be made to support alternative sources and third party repositories can contain configuration files that drop the necessary changes into codeina itself but official spins cannot carry any configuration changes that directly point codeina to alternative sources since that could potentially lead to contributory infringement claims. Rahul From igorsoares at gmail.com Tue Feb 26 02:15:49 2008 From: igorsoares at gmail.com (Igor Pires Soares) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:15:49 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Local Language Spins In-Reply-To: <47C366D4.4000609@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> <47C1B1E0.9010705@x-tnd.be> <1203968008.7997.39.camel@AMD5600> <47C325CD.8090209@fedoraproject.org> <1203987446.5358.36.camel@AMD5600> <47C366D4.4000609@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1203992149.9604.10.camel@AMD5600> Em Ter, 2008-02-26 ?s 06:39 +0530, Rahul Sundaram escreveu: > Igor Pires Soares wrote: > > > Note that my question is a little bit different. What I am trying to > > figure out is whether we can make modifications in Codeina configuration > > in order to support other codecs packages in some regions, not to > > include codecs directly on the distribution, because of what Rahul and > > Max said. > > Modifications to Codeina can be made to support alternative sources and > third party repositories can contain configuration files that drop the > necessary changes into codeina itself but official spins cannot carry > any configuration changes that directly point codeina to alternative > sources since that could potentially lead to contributory infringement > claims. > > Rahul Thanks for clarifying it Rahul. I will discuss with other Brazilian Ambassadors how we can offer a reliable spin to be distributed at FISL and other events. With or without Codeina we will deliver one more innovation to our users. The local language spins will be an important step to Fedora adoption. Regards, Igor Pires Soares From nayyares at gmail.com Tue Feb 26 06:30:32 2008 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:30:32 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora NPO founded at FOSDEM in Bruxelles In-Reply-To: <56629.212.97.101.115.1203960017.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <56629.212.97.101.115.1203960017.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30802252230o40f17aebgfa7c747254c2d3e5@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Gerold wrote: > Dear *, > > it is a great pleasure for us to share with you the official announcement > of the Fedora EMEA NPO as you can read below: I congratulate all EMEA Ambassadors on achieving this milestone ! > > > The idea of improving the way in which Fedora is supported started in > 2006, and has been given shape and carefully prepared during the > following year. On February 23rd, 2008, conform German Law and > established in the German district L?rrach, 10 active members of the > European Fedora Community founded a non-profit association called > "Fedora EMEA e.V.". > > This foundation increases the possibilities to inform a broader mass > about the Fedora Project and forms a focal point and economic base for > Fedora Project supporters. For companies and other organizations, the > Fedora Project supporters are now organized in a solid, efficient and > transparent way. The foundation reports to the Fedora Project regularly. > > As President of the Board, the members elected Gerold Kassube (Germany), > long-time member of the Fedora Ambassador Team. The members also > elected Jeroen van Meeuwen (The Netherlands), and Fabian Affolter > (Switzerland) to become the organization's Vice-Presidents, and trusted > Robert Scheck (Germany) to manage the foundations assets. > > In just a few weeks, during LinuxTag 2008 in Germany, the foundation has > it's first General Members Assembly. Because all parties involved still > have a lot of work to do, the necessary information to support the > organization and membership subscription forms will become available > online in the near future. > > On behalf of the Board > > Gerold Kassube > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fhornain at gmail.com Tue Feb 26 11:09:15 2008 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:09:15 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] See the Fedora Booth evolution at FOSDEM Message-ID: <3161376e0802260309s7cae164cn3373e1436010e4b9@mail.gmail.com> Dear *, First o all, I would like to thank you all Fedora guys for you great participation at FOSDEM. Thanks again. See the evolution of Fedora booth since 2006 and 2008. In 2006 _> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxY_SQbQ91U In 2008 _> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3128/2291136788_7b3a210695.jpg Amazing, isn't ? Frederic Hornain http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain Have fun with F8 From fzied at dottn.com Tue Feb 26 14:03:45 2008 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:03:45 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora NPO founded at FOSDEM in Bruxelles In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30802252230o40f17aebgfa7c747254c2d3e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <56629.212.97.101.115.1203960017.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <8e1ee2a30802252230o40f17aebgfa7c747254c2d3e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Congrats :) 2008/2/26 Nayyar Ahmad : > > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Gerold wrote: > > Dear *, > > > > it is a great pleasure for us to share with you the official announcement > > of the Fedora EMEA NPO as you can read below: > > I congratulate all EMEA Ambassadors on achieving this milestone ! > > > > > > > > The idea of improving the way in which Fedora is supported started in > > 2006, and has been given shape and carefully prepared during the > > following year. On February 23rd, 2008, conform German Law and > > established in the German district L?rrach, 10 active members of the > > European Fedora Community founded a non-profit association called > > "Fedora EMEA e.V.". > > > > This foundation increases the possibilities to inform a broader mass > > about the Fedora Project and forms a focal point and economic base for > > Fedora Project supporters. For companies and other organizations, the > > Fedora Project supporters are now organized in a solid, efficient and > > transparent way. The foundation reports to the Fedora Project regularly. > > > > As President of the Board, the members elected Gerold Kassube (Germany), > > long-time member of the Fedora Ambassador Team. The members also > > elected Jeroen van Meeuwen (The Netherlands), and Fabian Affolter > > (Switzerland) to become the organization's Vice-Presidents, and trusted > > Robert Scheck (Germany) to manage the foundations assets. > > > > In just a few weeks, during LinuxTag 2008 in Germany, the foundation has > > it's first General Members Assembly. Because all parties involved still > > have a lot of work to do, the necessary information to support the > > organization and membership subscription forms will become available > > online in the near future. > > > > On behalf of the Board > > > > Gerold Kassube > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > Nayyar Ahmad > RHCE (ID:804006858622745) > Skype: nayyares > Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Zied Fakhfakh Dot TN - CTO Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis Tunisia T : +216 71 886112 F : +216 71 885499 M : +216 22 535604 W : http://www.dottn.com GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C From jkeating at redhat.com Tue Feb 26 17:00:03 2008 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:00:03 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Local Language Spins In-Reply-To: <47C34A59.4030209@kanarip.com> References: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> <47C1B1E0.9010705@x-tnd.be> <1203968008.7997.39.camel@AMD5600> <47C34A59.4030209@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <20080226120003.2dd1c6b2@redhat.com> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:08:09 +0100 Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Basically there *cannot* be a problem in getting a live spin in any > language pass Q&A if the (default) language is all that has changed, > or if OOo(-langpack) is all that has been added. Part of how Release > Engineering and Q&A wanted to compose the live spins had to do > reproducibility, so if the same spin off the same tree is being > reproduced several times with only a different language each, giving > a thumbs up to each of those spins should be a breeze. Quality cannot > be a problem considering the way the compose tools have been set up, > and if quantity is a problem, really, you're back to a quality > problem in the compose tools and reproducibility becomes utopia. That depends on having all the languages composed at once, or composed only against the GOLD release packages. The QA issues come in when each language is spun with a different set of updates included, which may or may not effect the user experience, particularly installing. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Best Regards, John Babich Member, FAmSCo From johan at x-tnd.be Tue Feb 26 21:11:27 2008 From: johan at x-tnd.be (Johan Cwiklinski) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:11:27 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Local Language Spins In-Reply-To: <47C1E48F.4040201@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> <47C1B1E0.9010705@x-tnd.be> <47C1E48F.4040201@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47C4807F.2010000@x-tnd.be> Rahul Sundaram a ?crit : > Johan Cwiklinski wrote: > >> It will be cool to officialize this method for localization of live >> spins. Could we achieve a procedure for submitting localized .ks >> files based on official Fedora live cds ? > > Just follow > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/CustomSpins. If you need > any help, let me know. > > Rahul Hi, I've followed the first step described in this page, and then I'm a bit stucked - I think it's still a bit obscure. Here is the mail exchange I had with the board : Johan Cwiklinski a ?crit : > Bill Nottingham a ?crit : >> Jesse Keating (jkeating at redhat.com) said: >>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:17:50 +0100 >>> Johan Cwiklinski wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Following the localized spin proposed by Rahul >>>> (https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-February/msg00147.html) >>>> I've made one for my native language (French). >>>> >>>> As the first step of approval for this custom spin, I submit you >>>> the relevant .ks file. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Johan >>> >>> Well, it's not changing much, so there isn't much to review. I still >>> think doing an entire spin just to pick a different local seems silly. >>> But from the technical POV the kickstart itself is sound. >> >> Especially since the default livecd already includes French support. >> >> Bill >> > > If it's installed by default, that is not the default language. > > What would you think of a distro coming with a default keyboard > layout/language/timezone that is different from yours ? > > For a live usb, this can be changed, but not for a livecd. > > French guys (and I think this is also true for many languages) will > not be interested in something that does not feet their needs. > Also, we always need to login again to gnome for the language to be > changed. > > That's why I thing localized livecds is a very good idea. I've already > made a such spin for FC6, this experience was successful. > > French community have its own server, I can use it to make a torrent > for my localized livecd, but not all languages have this luck. > > So, what should I do ? Shall I continue the official spin > registration, or hosting it on our french webserver (maybe with a link > to it from official website) ? > > Regards, > Johan > > PS: we had a discussion on irc #fedora-mktg about this, it appears > that a tool should share commons bits, a big part of the problem will > be solved, but actually, that tool does not exists. Bill Nottingham a ?crit : > Johan Cwiklinski (johan at x-tnd.be) said: >>> Especially since the default livecd already includes French support. >> If it's installed by default, that is not the default language. >> >> What would you think of a distro coming with a default keyboard >> layout/language/timezone that is different from yours ? > > Language can be picked from the greeter; since it's timed, you > can pick then. Keyboard support will be added there real soon now. > > Not to drag a fedora-devel thread in here, but keyboard layout/timezone > may still not be correct for someone in Quebec or Senegal who uses a > 'French' livecd. > > Bill > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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However, it really needs to find a new home, as it has significantly outgrown the space at the ULB Campus. It was truly 10 pounds of awesome in a 5 pound sack, people literally in gridlock throughout the entire event. We gave out hundreds of Fedora 8 DVDs, and ran out several hours before the event was over on Sunday. - It was good to see the CentOS folks come out again as our partner. Even though I may strongly disagree with some of their "community" participants, I support their mission wholeheartedly. - I have high hopes for RPMFusion in the Fedora 9 time frame. Even though they cannot solve any problems in the patent encumbered, DMCA'd United States, they provide a useful service to the rest of the Free World. - Steak Americain is not American. French Fries are not French. Ukrainian dessert wine is AWESOME (thank you again kad, that was such a nice gift). - Tam Tam (one of the OLPC activities) makes animal noises. Somehow, I ended up making an incredibly filthy joke about that which made most of the ambassadors near by blush and laugh out loud. I apologize again. - For 1 Euro, the BSD dominatrix will spank you. For 2 Euro, she will do it properly. I spent most of my time at FOSDEM at the Fedora booth, talking with people about the technical details around Fedora, and generally feeling bad for only speaking American (I believe I was the only Fedoran who only spoke a single language)! The OLPC and the Asus EEE were huge attention draws, and posters seemed to be the "swag" most in demand (many people were disappointed that we had no posters for sale). A lot of the attendees were relatively new to Linux, but there were also a lot of experienced Fedora users who stopped by to thank us and ask about Fedora 9. I spent some time talking about the next RHEL, and how Fedora can help shape that direction, which was very interesting to the CentOS folks. This was my second year at FOSDEM, and I felt very welcomed by the locals. With the NPO established, it can only get better from here! Thanks, ~spot From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Feb 26 22:54:27 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:54:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM 2008 Trip Report or "How to turn Tam Tam into something so dirty that it makes a German blush" In-Reply-To: <1204065183.3404.59.camel@dhcp83-61.boston.redhat.com> References: <1204065183.3404.59.camel@dhcp83-61.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: That's a great trip report, Spot. I'm glad you were there, and I'm glad you dodged the Steak Tartare bullet, though I can't remember if you were one of the unlucky who got hit by it last year. Thanks for writing it up. Just so everyone knows, I've collected up all the FOSDEM blog posts http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008#reports And I'm going to try to find some time this week or next to write an article for Red Hat Magazine about FOSDEM... unless there's an enterprising Ambassador who would like to be published? In which case, I'm happy to be a co-writer/editor/helper. --Max On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > Having just returned home from FOSDEM in Brussels, several things are > very clear to me: > > - Fedora is lucky to have such a large base of dedicated and motivated > Ambassadors in EMEA. Their enthusiasm showed throughout the entire > weekend, from the handmade stickers and pins, to the beautiful high > quality posters, and the matching ambassador polo shirts. I am truly > proud to be a part of the Fedora community, and specifically, a member > of the Fedora Ambassadors. > > - FOSDEM is an extremely popular, well attended event. However, it > really needs to find a new home, as it has significantly outgrown the > space at the ULB Campus. It was truly 10 pounds of awesome in a 5 pound > sack, people literally in gridlock throughout the entire event. We gave > out hundreds of Fedora 8 DVDs, and ran out several hours before the > event was over on Sunday. > > - It was good to see the CentOS folks come out again as our partner. > Even though I may strongly disagree with some of their "community" > participants, I support their mission wholeheartedly. > > - I have high hopes for RPMFusion in the Fedora 9 time frame. Even > though they cannot solve any problems in the patent encumbered, DMCA'd > United States, they provide a useful service to the rest of the Free > World. > > - Steak Americain is not American. French Fries are not French. > Ukrainian dessert wine is AWESOME (thank you again kad, that was such a > nice gift). > > - Tam Tam (one of the OLPC activities) makes animal noises. Somehow, I > ended up making an incredibly filthy joke about that which made most of > the ambassadors near by blush and laugh out loud. I apologize again. > > - For 1 Euro, the BSD dominatrix will spank you. For 2 Euro, she will do > it properly. > > I spent most of my time at FOSDEM at the Fedora booth, talking with > people about the technical details around Fedora, and generally feeling > bad for only speaking American (I believe I was the only Fedoran who > only spoke a single language)! The OLPC and the Asus EEE were huge > attention draws, and posters seemed to be the "swag" most in demand > (many people were disappointed that we had no posters for sale). A lot > of the attendees were relatively new to Linux, but there were also a lot > of experienced Fedora users who stopped by to thank us and ask about > Fedora 9. I spent some time talking about the next RHEL, and how Fedora > can help shape that direction, which was very interesting to the CentOS > folks. > > This was my second year at FOSDEM, and I felt very welcomed by the > locals. With the NPO established, it can only get better from here! > > Thanks, > > ~spot > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From stickster at gmail.com Wed Feb 27 02:10:01 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:10:01 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora NPO founded at FOSDEM in Bruxelles In-Reply-To: <56629.212.97.101.115.1203960017.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <56629.212.97.101.115.1203960017.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <1204078201.24915.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 18:20 +0100, Gerold wrote: > Dear *, > > it is a great pleasure for us to share with you the official announcement > of the Fedora EMEA NPO as you can read below: It was just as great a pleasure for the Fedora Board to help enable this group. In the future, possibly before the release of Fedora 10, the Board will begin accepting additional applications from groups that have reached this advanced stage of planning. We are using Fedora EMEA as a pilot to figure out a framework for enabling additional worldwide communities. We chose Fedora EMEA specifically because this group had already achieved a very high level of organization, community interest, and command of the details surrounding funding and legality in their region. I would urge any additional groups that are considering formation to reach a similar state of readiness by that time. The Board wants to ensure that Fedora's community groups worldwide develop consistently, and with proper resources to enable their success. > As President of the Board, the members elected Gerold Kassube (Germany), > long-time member of the Fedora Ambassador Team. The members also > elected Jeroen van Meeuwen (The Netherlands), and Fabian Affolter > (Switzerland) to become the organization's Vice-Presidents, and trusted > Robert Scheck (Germany) to manage the foundations assets. Congratulations to all the elected officials of Fedora EMEA. I encourage you to continue discussing your work and progress regularly and often! > In just a few weeks, during LinuxTag 2008 in Germany, the foundation has > it's first General Members Assembly. Because all parties involved still > have a lot of work to do, the necessary information to support the > organization and membership subscription forms will become available > online in the near future. Absolutely splendid. I am very much looking forward to coming to Germany in May and meeting everyone! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From oliver at linux-kernel.at Wed Feb 27 08:48:41 2008 From: oliver at linux-kernel.at (Oliver Falk) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:48:41 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] RE: LinuxTag hotel (readme if you will attend LT) In-Reply-To: <1367.62.2.77.2.1202458218.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <1367.62.2.77.2.1202458218.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <47C523E9.3000703@linux-kernel.at> Guys, this is YACO (Yet Another COnfirmation). :-) I'll be there. Flight is already booked. I'm coming together with one of my colleagues on 28th Mai early in the morning and fly back on Monday evening ('bout 20:00 I believe). Secretary is still searching for some hotel, but that should not be a real problem. However, I just wanted to mention, that I'll be there and no RH sponsorship is required to get me there. But if their budget is too full, I'm happy to provide my SWIFT code, RH shares are welcome too :-P Just jokin'. Any wiki/list where I should put my name on? Best, Oliver Gerold wrote: > Hi Everybody and also Hi Max, > > thanks for bringing up this issue on my behalf to everyone! Ladies, > Gentleman, please read carefully what Max told you between the lines ... > > THIS is also the CALL FOR PARTICIPATION at Linuxtag 2008 in the Capital of > Germany (Berlin). > More Information about Linuxtag (himself) at http://www.linuxtag.org about > the Fedora presence: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/ and only > a few Highlights (not all) ... > > confirmed Attendees > - Paul Frields (Fedora Project Leader) [USA] > - Max Spevack (former Fedora PL) [USA] > - Tom 'spot' Callaway [USA] > - Jeroen van Meeuven [Netherlands] > - Ahmad Nayyar [Mosambique] > >>From FAMSCO (so far confirmed): > - Andreas Rau (Germany/Switzerland) > - Fabian Affolter (Switzerland) > - Francesco Ugolini (Italy) > > we have also confirmed Countries presentations from Greece, France, > Belgium, United Kingdom, Austria, Czech Republic, Poland, Germany and last > but not least: ALL Ambassadors from Switzland confirmed there > participation! > > We are planning the following highlights which will be shown: > - TroubleShooting contest with valuable Prices > - FUDCon (1 day Track dedicated with Fedora Speakers, Developers and Users) > - FAD (Fedora Ambassador Day) > - Fedora rocks on .... (Mac, X-Box, OLPC, EeePc a.s.o.) > - ShowRoom of Fedora 9 "Sulphur" > - meet the Developer > - HR Recruiting Corner from Red Hat > > and a lot of social networking. Max, and not at least the Fedora > LinuxtagTeam would like to invite to to participate that show with more > than 10.000 visitors in four days and we hope, if YOU ARE FEDORA ... > > you will participate and help us to get the fair as an success. > > So go ahead, register and stay tuned ... > > regards on behalf and in the name of the Team > > Gerold > > > > > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- >> Von: Max Spevack >> Antwort an: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> An: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> Betreff: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag hotel (readme if you will attend LT) >> Datum: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:50:13 -0500 (EST) >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/Rooms >> >> Similar to last year, we are in the process of figuring out how many >> hotel rooms we need to book for LinuxTag. >> >> IT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU SIGN UP ON THIS PAGE IF YOU WILL >> ATTEND LINUXTAG AND WANT A HOTEL ROOM. >> >> Gerold will let people know what the deadline for signing up is -- >> Gerold, you can just reply to this email with any details I have missed. >> >> Also like last year, once the final number of rooms is booked and we can >> estimate the total cost, the Fedora Project will be able to inform >> people of how much we can pay of the hotel bill. Last year, you will >> remember that Fedora paid the entire hotel bill for LinuxTag. This >> year, it will depend on the final cost. There is another conference in >> Berlin the same days, and therefore it is already impossible for us to >> stay in the Pegasus Hotel again. >> >> Gerold has found a place that is reasonably priced (but more expensive >> than last year), but that is also MUCH closer to LinuxTag than the >> Pegasus was. >> >> LinuxTag is going to be an excellent event this year. We have a nice >> booth, we will have lots of swag, and a variety of talks. >> >> Furthermore, we will have a "Fedora Ambassador Day" that will really >> involve several night-time meetings of all the Ambassadors, in which we >> will plan not only for LinuxTag, but also in which I will hopefully be >> able to lead the creation of our plans for building the European Fedora >> Community throughout the entire year. >> >> Paul Frields, who has just taken over for me as the overall Fedora >> Project Leader, will also be at LinuxTag this year. Starting with my >> trip last year, it will now be tradition that the Fedora Project Leader >> attends LinuxTag, since it is one of the most important shows in Europe. >> >> I am really looking forward to seeing you all at LinuxTag again >> this year. >> >> Thanks, >> Max >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 27 09:32:51 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:02:51 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Local Language Spins In-Reply-To: <47C4807F.2010000@x-tnd.be> References: <47B96E02.9070406@fedoraproject.org> <47C1B1E0.9010705@x-tnd.be> <47C1E48F.4040201@fedoraproject.org> <47C4807F.2010000@x-tnd.be> Message-ID: <47C52E43.8000305@fedoraproject.org> Johan Cwiklinski wrote: >> So, what should I do ? Shall I continue the official spin >> registration, or hosting it on our french webserver (maybe with a link >> to it from official website) ? For the moment, host it the French website and ask someone in the websites team to link to it from spins.fp.o. We are still discussing how to tackle many concerns with the localized spins. Refer Fedora advisory board list for details. Rahul From gerold at lugd.org Wed Feb 27 09:44:33 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:44:33 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] RE: LinuxTag hotel (readme if you will attend LT) In-Reply-To: <47C523E9.3000703@linux-kernel.at> References: <1367.62.2.77.2.1202458218.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <47C523E9.3000703@linux-kernel.at> Message-ID: <4565.217.162.12.42.1204105473.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Hi Oliver, > Guys, this is YACO (Yet Another COnfirmation). :-) > > I'll be there. Flight is already booked. I'm coming together with one of > my colleagues on 28th Mai early in the morning and fly back on Monday > evening ('bout 20:00 I believe). Secretary is still searching for some > hotel, but that should not be a real problem. ^^ fine :-) do you want to come as visitor of Linuxtag or as Ambassador to help? > > However, I just wanted to mention, that I'll be there and no RH > sponsorship is required to get me there. ^^ nice to read in any way :-) > But if their budget is too full, I'm happy to provide my SWIFT code, > RH shares are welcome too :-P ^^ go on dreaming :-) > > Just jokin'. ^^ me too *g* > > Any wiki/list where I should put my name on? ^^ see the below mail, there are all your question concerning this question answered .... but if you don't find the link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008 here it is again > > Best, > Oliver ^^ Alway friendly yours ... Gerold > > > Gerold wrote: >> Hi Everybody and also Hi Max, >> >> thanks for bringing up this issue on my behalf to everyone! Ladies, >> Gentleman, please read carefully what Max told you between the lines ... >> >> THIS is also the CALL FOR PARTICIPATION at Linuxtag 2008 in the Capital >> of >> Germany (Berlin). >> More Information about Linuxtag (himself) at http://www.linuxtag.org >> about >> the Fedora presence: >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/ and >> only >> a few Highlights (not all) ... >> >> confirmed Attendees >> - Paul Frields (Fedora Project Leader) [USA] >> - Max Spevack (former Fedora PL) [USA] >> - Tom 'spot' Callaway [USA] >> - Jeroen van Meeuven [Netherlands] >> - Ahmad Nayyar [Mosambique] >> >>>From FAMSCO (so far confirmed): >> - Andreas Rau (Germany/Switzerland) >> - Fabian Affolter (Switzerland) >> - Francesco Ugolini (Italy) >> >> we have also confirmed Countries presentations from Greece, France, >> Belgium, United Kingdom, Austria, Czech Republic, Poland, Germany and >> last >> but not least: ALL Ambassadors from Switzland confirmed there >> participation! >> >> We are planning the following highlights which will be shown: >> - TroubleShooting contest with valuable Prices >> - FUDCon (1 day Track dedicated with Fedora Speakers, Developers and >> Users) >> - FAD (Fedora Ambassador Day) >> - Fedora rocks on .... (Mac, X-Box, OLPC, EeePc a.s.o.) >> - ShowRoom of Fedora 9 "Sulphur" >> - meet the Developer >> - HR Recruiting Corner from Red Hat >> >> and a lot of social networking. Max, and not at least the Fedora >> LinuxtagTeam would like to invite to to participate that show with more >> than 10.000 visitors in four days and we hope, if YOU ARE FEDORA ... >> >> you will participate and help us to get the fair as an success. >> >> So go ahead, register and stay tuned ... >> >> regards on behalf and in the name of the Team >> >> Gerold From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 26 18:54:17 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:54:17 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora NPO founded at FOSDEM in Bruxelles In-Reply-To: <9d2c731f0802261040s7217f583mf66167a843c28462@mail.gmail.com> References: <56629.212.97.101.115.1203960017.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <9d2c731f0802261040s7217f583mf66167a843c28462@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200802261954.21636.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Dienstag, 26. Februar 2008 19:40:08 schrieb John Babich: > Likewise, congratulations! I'm sure a great deal of hard work went > into the formation of the group. h?, what do you mean? famsco? ;-) -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Feb 27 21:12:03 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:12:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] FUDCon Boston 2008 is coming in June Message-ID: I'm writing to let you all know that the next FUDCon (Fedora Users and Developers Conference) will be in Boston, MA from June 19-21. It will be held in the same location, and in parallel to, the Red Hat Summit 2008. If you would like to attend this event, please sign up here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConF10 Furthermore, you can express interest in giving a talk at the BarCamp, or in participating in or oraganizing a hackfest. FUDCon is always free to attend. If you would like to know more about FUDCon, here are some text and video resources you might find interesting, taken from FUDCon Raleigh 2008, held in January. http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2008/01/23/fudcon-highlights/ http://spevack.livejournal.com/44085.html We hope to see as many people from our community in attendance as possible. Thanks, Max From jkeating at redhat.com Wed Feb 27 21:52:16 2008 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:52:16 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Speaking engagement at Northeastern University report Message-ID: <20080227165216.17b10129@redhat.com> I've just returned from a speaking engagement at Northeastern University here in Boston MA., USA. This was for the ACM students, Association of Computing Machinery. Even though it was midterms time, we had a good 30 students show up for the talk. I started with a quick history of Linux and GNU and a brief outline of what makes a Linux distribution. I then went on to compare and contrast some of today's popular Linux distributions, going over package management, init systems, governance models, commercial/community aspects, etc... I then went further in detail as to what makes up Fedora, and why I feel that Fedora is a very strong project to contribute to. After that I did about 30 minutes of question and answer. Many good questions were asked, such as what is RH/Fedora's relationship with CentOS, how do we compete with Ubuntu, what return on RH's investment in Fedora is there, how does the Fedora work make it's way into RHEL, what is RHEL's release model, and a few other things. All in all I think it was a very good engagement. The students were very knowledgeable and interested. Many expressed interest in getting more information, and potentially interning or otherwise contributing to Fedora. Every student picked up a Live CD of Fedora 8 as well. I hope to do more things with Northeastern in the future. They have a very cool program and some very neat students. Linux is slowly making it's way into their infrastructure, mostly led by student efforts. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I then went on to > compare and contrast some of today's popular Linux distributions, > going over package management, init systems, governance models, > commercial/community aspects, etc... I then went further in detail as > to what makes up Fedora, and why I feel that Fedora is a very strong > project to contribute to. > > After that I did about 30 minutes of question and answer. Many good > questions were asked, such as what is RH/Fedora's relationship with > CentOS, how do we compete with Ubuntu, what return on RH's investment > in Fedora is there, how does the Fedora work make it's way into RHEL, > what is RHEL's release model, and a few other things. > > All in all I think it was a very good engagement. The students were > very knowledgeable and interested. Many expressed interest in getting > more information, and potentially interning or otherwise contributing > to Fedora. Every student picked up a Live CD of Fedora 8 as well. > > I hope to do more things with Northeastern in the future. They have a > very cool program and some very neat students. Linux is slowly making > it's way into their infrastructure, mostly led by student efforts. Sounds like a great event, Jesse. Sounds like a really good "intro to linux and open source with a fedora focus". Did you have slides? If so, could you make them available. Thanks for writing this up -- I really like the fact that we're getting more Event Report activity on this list. I haven't checked Fedora Planet in the last while, but maybe you could post there too, if you haven't already? Thanks, Max From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Thu Feb 28 09:50:12 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:50:12 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] who knows somebody at http://openfacts.berlios.de ? Message-ID: <64b14b300802280150r7acd660fq65265193c1fef386@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I can't get to anybody at http://openfacts.berlios.de Theis site is broken because I try to open a new account and I get this error: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /index-en.phtml on this server. I would like to add a new wiki entry - howto compile uvc webcam module on fedora and I can't! Is there somebody you can point me to? Are there any German Ambassadors that know the people running http://openfacts.berlios.de ? Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From jkeating at redhat.com Thu Feb 28 13:58:19 2008 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:58:19 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Speaking engagement at Northeastern University report In-Reply-To: References: <20080227165216.17b10129@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20080228085819.481600b3@redhat.com> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:47:20 -0500 (EST) Max Spevack wrote: > Sounds like a great event, Jesse. Sounds like a really good "intro > to linux and open source with a fedora focus". Did you have slides? > If so, could you make them available. I did not do slides. I loathe slides, so I try and do without them, and let the audience take me where they want to go. I could post the framework notes I had though, not much meat just points that I wanted to get to if time allowed. > > Thanks for writing this up -- I really like the fact that we're > getting more Event Report activity on this list. Yeah, this is been a missing piece and I'm glad others were doing it which guilted me into doing it. > > I haven't checked Fedora Planet in the last while, but maybe you > could post there too, if you haven't already? I will echo it there too, thanks for the prod! -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jonstanley at gmail.com Thu Feb 28 15:15:11 2008 From: jonstanley at gmail.com (Jon Stanley) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:15:11 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Speaking engagement at Northeastern University report In-Reply-To: <20080228085819.481600b3@redhat.com> References: <20080227165216.17b10129@redhat.com> <20080228085819.481600b3@redhat.com> Message-ID: 2008/2/28 Jesse Keating : > I did not do slides. I loathe slides, so I try and do without them, > and let the audience take me where they want to go. I could post the > framework notes I had though, not much meat just points that I wanted > to get to if time allowed. Is there video of the presentation maybe? I'd like to "learn" how to do these - yes, I realize it's not rocket science, but structure and flow are everything, and where I tend to fall flat on my face :) From jkeating at redhat.com Thu Feb 28 15:26:42 2008 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:26:42 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Speaking engagement at Northeastern University report In-Reply-To: References: <20080227165216.17b10129@redhat.com> <20080228085819.481600b3@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20080228102642.75c628a9@redhat.com> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:15:11 -0500 "Jon Stanley" wrote: > Is there video of the presentation maybe? I'd like to "learn" how to > do these - yes, I realize it's not rocket science, but structure and > flow are everything, and where I tend to fall flat on my face :) Yes, actually there was somebody videoing the talk. I'm trying to get a copy of that now. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fab at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 28 20:36:14 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:36:14 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] OpenExpo Message-ID: <47C71B3E.8010402@fedoraproject.org> Hi Guys, If you want to join us at the OpenExpo 2008 [1] at Berne take a look at the attached exhibition layout. We are #2 Kind regards, Fabian [1] http://www.openexpo.ch/openexpo-2008-bern/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Are there any German > Ambassadors that know the people running http://openfacts.berlios.de ? http://www.berlios.de/contact/index.php.en or http://developer.berlios.de/staff.php Kind regards, Fabian From fhornain at gmail.com Fri Feb 29 12:53:22 2008 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:53:22 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Belgium Message-ID: <3161376e0802290453u34d48020x9a8ccb5bf651be9c@mail.gmail.com> Dear *, Does someone could explain me what is the procedure in order to create an official Fedora entity -association- for Belgium as my French or German friends did ? >From a Fedora point of view, of course. I would need your feedbacks. Max if you could reply to my previous mail I would appreciate. THX. Thanks a lot. Best Regards Frederic Hornain From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 29 15:32:47 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:32:47 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Belgium In-Reply-To: <3161376e0802290453u34d48020x9a8ccb5bf651be9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0802290453u34d48020x9a8ccb5bf651be9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/2/29, Frederic Hornain : > Dear *, > > Does someone could explain me what is the procedure in order to create > an official Fedora entity -association- for Belgium as my French or > German friends did ? First of all there isn't any German entity, but an European (or better EMEA) one (for legal reason it was founded in Germany). If you want you can join Fedora EMEA (Europe - Middle East - Africa) NPO (No Profit Organization), just talk with Fedora EMEA chair to know how to do it. Regards Francesco From romal at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 29 16:13:19 2008 From: romal at fedoraproject.org (Robert M. Albrecht) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:13:19 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linuxtag and OLPC Message-ID: <47C82F1F.8040701@gmail.com> Hi, do we have an OLPC at Linuxtag 2008 ? cu romal From gerold at lugd.org Fri Feb 29 16:24:32 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:24:32 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Belgium In-Reply-To: References: <3161376e0802290453u34d48020x9a8ccb5bf651be9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4628.217.162.12.42.1204302272.squirrel@www.gbc.net> > 2008/2/29, Frederic Hornain : >> Dear *, >> >> Does someone could explain me what is the procedure in order to create >> an official Fedora entity -association- for Belgium as my French or >> German friends did ? > > > First of all there isn't any German entity, but an European (or better > EMEA) one (for legal reason it was founded in Germany). If you want > you can join Fedora EMEA (Europe - Middle East - Africa) NPO (No > Profit Organization), just talk with Fedora EMEA chair to know how to > do it. > > Regards > > Francesco ^^ Francesco, thanks; WELL SPOKEN words in that case. Maybe not all understand the difference or the work we want to do with founding that non profit organisation. The goals from my perspective as an Ambassador are the same without or with my personal membership in that organisation. I / we want to help Fedora to spread the word, to support users whereever they need the helping hand from Fedora, win Linux user to use Fedora, going forward, improving and getting upstream .... We as the founder of that organisation don't want to seperate or dissociate ourself neither than persons nor than Fedora EMEA e.V. from the Fedora Project, the Ambassador "programm" or from Red Hat. Far from it! We want to work closer to Red Hat with the real life things, like organising events together with Red Hat, get "money" to the project because of everybody can now donate a German association and he is now able to get a donation receipt for his donation which is also tax reducing, so we have there a win - win situation ... So we're trying to share a part of "responsibility" on more shoulders than only for one main sponsor. So if you have any more question do not hesitate and contact Fabian (fabian_a), me (geroldka), Jeroen (kanarip) or Robert (rsc) [as the board of that organisation] somwhere in a fedora-channel on freenode. Regards Gerold From gerold at lugd.org Fri Feb 29 16:26:43 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:26:43 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Linuxtag and OLPC In-Reply-To: <47C82F1F.8040701@gmail.com> References: <47C82F1F.8040701@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4633.217.162.12.42.1204302403.squirrel@www.gbc.net> one? a minimum of TWO, owned by EMEA - Ambassadors! One always (and also responsible) by J?rg Simon (kital on IRC) and one will be brought by max Spevack ... Not really sure but I think, that also Jan Wildeboer will attend us and have his one by his side :-) Regards Gerold > Hi, > > do we have an OLPC at Linuxtag 2008 ? > > cu romal > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Feb 29 17:41:23 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:41:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Belgium In-Reply-To: <3161376e0802290453u34d48020x9a8ccb5bf651be9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0802290453u34d48020x9a8ccb5bf651be9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Does someone could explain me what is the procedure in order to create > an official Fedora entity -association- for Belgium as my French or > German friends did ? >> From a Fedora point of view, of course. > I would need your feedbacks. > > Max if you could reply to my previous mail I would appreciate. THX. Here is what I think, very honestly. The French team was way ahead of the game, and got themselves organized long ago. Now we have a Fedora EMEA NPO (that just so *happens* to be a German legal entity). I think that the Fedora EMEA NPO has always talked about how it wants to be inclusive of *everyone* in Europe, and I think that it should be. If we start having a bunch of different organizations for each country, it will: 1) create a lot of paperwork 2) make the European Ambassadors feel like a bunch of splintered organizations instead of one solid team 3) destroy the larger sense of Community throughout Europe that I think is the most compelling thing about Fedora Europe. So I would ask you: Why do you feel like we need yet another organization? What would a "Fedora Belgium" organization do that the larger Fedora EMEA organization can't do? To me, the critical path seems to be: 1) Ensure the success of the Fedora EMEA NPO as an entity that serves *all* of Europe. 2) Continue to ensure that Fedora France has resources. 3) Make sure that everyone thinks of themselves as part of the Larger Fedora European community. A *legal entity* is not a community. It is just a means of getting stuff done. We must all think of ourselves as part of the same big team. I don't think we should be forming any more legal entities. I think we should be making sure that the ones we already have are serving the *entire* community. --Max From dimitris at glezos.com Fri Feb 29 17:57:43 2008 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:57:43 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Belgium In-Reply-To: References: <3161376e0802290453u34d48020x9a8ccb5bf651be9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6d4237680802290957o7470c5e0vb36170abc299f5f@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Frederic Hornain wrote: > > > Does someone could explain me what is the procedure in order to create > > an official Fedora entity -association- for Belgium as my French or > > German friends did ? > >> From a Fedora point of view, of course. > > I would need your feedbacks. > > > > Max if you could reply to my previous mail I would appreciate. THX. > > Here is what I think, very honestly. > > The French team was way ahead of the game, and got themselves organized > long ago. > > Now we have a Fedora EMEA NPO (that just so *happens* to be a German > legal entity). > > I think that the Fedora EMEA NPO has always talked about how it wants to > be inclusive of *everyone* in Europe, and I think that it should be. > > If we start having a bunch of different organizations for each country, > it will: > > 1) create a lot of paperwork > > 2) make the European Ambassadors feel like a bunch of splintered > organizations instead of one solid team > > 3) destroy the larger sense of Community throughout Europe that I think > is the most compelling thing about Fedora Europe. > > So I would ask you: > > Why do you feel like we need yet another organization? > > What would a "Fedora Belgium" organization do that the larger Fedora > EMEA organization can't do? > > To me, the critical path seems to be: > > 1) Ensure the success of the Fedora EMEA NPO as an entity that serves > *all* of Europe. > > 2) Continue to ensure that Fedora France has resources. > > 3) Make sure that everyone thinks of themselves as part of the Larger > Fedora European community. > > A *legal entity* is not a community. It is just a means of getting > stuff done. > > We must all think of ourselves as part of the same big team. I don't > think we should be forming any more legal entities. I think we should > be making sure that the ones we already have are serving the *entire* > community. FWIW, I agree with all points from Max. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From robert at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 29 20:12:52 2008 From: robert at fedoraproject.org (Robert Scheck) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:12:52 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Belgium In-Reply-To: <3161376e0802290453u34d48020x9a8ccb5bf651be9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0802290453u34d48020x9a8ccb5bf651be9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080229201252.GA19008@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Does someone could explain me what is the procedure in order to create > an official Fedora entity -association- for Belgium as my French or > German friends did ? Sorry, when now being a bit rude, but wouldn't it be better to get at least some active ambassadors in Belgium doing more for the Fedora community? As far as I remember, there are only less Fedora ambassadors in Belgium and one of these less was even unable to organize a hotel for us at FOSDEM; we had to do this ourself... :-( Anway...the "German friends" founded a EMEA-wide NPO to be registered in Germany, which is not only in Germany or only for German ones, it is for the whole EMEA! Please participiate in Fedora EMEA and help us... Greetings, Robert From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Feb 29 21:52:09 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:52:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Belgium In-Reply-To: <20080229201252.GA19008@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> References: <3161376e0802290453u34d48020x9a8ccb5bf651be9c@mail.gmail.com> <20080229201252.GA19008@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> Message-ID: On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Robert Scheck wrote: > On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Frederic Hornain wrote: >> Does someone could explain me what is the procedure in order to create >> an official Fedora entity -association- for Belgium as my French or >> German friends did ? > > Sorry, when now being a bit rude, but wouldn't it be better to get at > least some active ambassadors in Belgium doing more for the Fedora > community? As far as I remember, there are only less Fedora > ambassadors in Belgium and one of these less was even unable to > organize a hotel for us at FOSDEM; we had to do this ourself... :-( > > Anway...the "German friends" founded a EMEA-wide NPO to be registered > in Germany, which is not only in Germany or only for German ones, it > is for the whole EMEA! Please participiate in Fedora EMEA and help > us... I encourage everyone to re-read my response on this thread and think about how we can continue to work together as a EUROPEAN COMMUNITY and not worry about individual countries. The Fedora EMEA NPO can serve *everyone*, and I will certainly make it my job to think about all of Europe, not just individual parts of it. --Max From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Fri Feb 29 22:00:18 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:00:18 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Speaking engagement at Northeastern University report In-Reply-To: References: <20080227165216.17b10129@redhat.com> <20080228085819.481600b3@redhat.com> Message-ID: <64b14b300802291400j7c505d48m73b1d97b70897df2@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Jon Stanley wrote: > 2008/2/28 Jesse Keating : > > > > I did not do slides. I loathe slides, so I try and do without them, > > and let the audience take me where they want to go. I could post the > > framework notes I had though, not much meat just points that I wanted > > to get to if time allowed. > > Is there video of the presentation maybe? I'd like to "learn" how to > do these - yes, I realize it's not rocket science, but structure and > flow are everything, and where I tend to fall flat on my face :) Yes! This would be really helpful also for me and other ambassadors who are likely to do (or attempt to) similar talks. Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Fri Feb 29 22:24:24 2008 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:24:24 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Belgium In-Reply-To: References: <3161376e0802290453u34d48020x9a8ccb5bf651be9c@mail.gmail.com> <20080229201252.GA19008@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> Message-ID: <20080229232424.257092b8.thomas.canniot@mrtomlinux.org> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:52:09 -0500 (EST) Max Spevack wrote: > On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Robert Scheck wrote: > > > On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, Frederic Hornain wrote: > >> Does someone could explain me what is the procedure in order to create > >> an official Fedora entity -association- for Belgium as my French or > >> German friends did ? > > > > Sorry, when now being a bit rude, but wouldn't it be better to get at > > least some active ambassadors in Belgium doing more for the Fedora > > community? As far as I remember, there are only less Fedora > > ambassadors in Belgium and one of these less was even unable to > > organize a hotel for us at FOSDEM; we had to do this ourself... :-( > > > > Anway...the "German friends" founded a EMEA-wide NPO to be registered > > in Germany, which is not only in Germany or only for German ones, it > > is for the whole EMEA! Please participiate in Fedora EMEA and help > > us... > > I encourage everyone to re-read my response on this thread and think > about how we can continue to work together as a EUROPEAN COMMUNITY and > not worry about individual countries. However I can hardly understand how such a big europen infrastructure could be able to manage local members individually. We are too many I think and have so many different cultures that I think it will be a very difficult task to handle. And I think this is were FAMSCO failed two years ago, it could not manage so many members because they were so different. Local entities are good as they can do this face to face job with local members. That's what we do here, and I should not make a mistake saying that european people first feels being from their countries before feeling European. I consider myself as being more French than European, however, Europe IS bigger than France and gives many laws to us. People are far from Europe from my point of view. EMEA organisation is good, but I personaly think it will be much easier task to communicate with identified local entities than with so many different local ambassadors. Thomas Canniot -- Thomas Canniot From jbasse at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 29 23:01:24 2008 From: jbasse at fedoraproject.org (Jonathan Basse) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:01:24 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Belgium In-Reply-To: <20080229232424.257092b8.thomas.canniot@mrtomlinux.org> References: <3161376e0802290453u34d48020x9a8ccb5bf651be9c@mail.gmail.com> <20080229232424.257092b8.thomas.canniot@mrtomlinux.org> Message-ID: <200802292301.29177.jbasse@fedoraproject.org> > > I encourage everyone to re-read my response on this thread and think > > about how we can continue to work together as a EUROPEAN COMMUNITY and > > not worry about individual countries. > > However I can hardly understand how such a big europen infrastructure could > be able to manage local members individually. We are too many I think and > have so many different cultures that I think it will be a very difficult > task to handle. And I think this is were FAMSCO failed two years ago, it > could not manage so many members because they were so different. My understanding is that Fedora EMEA NPO is more to provide a legal framework as well as organizing the European community around Fedora > Local entities are good as they can do this face to face job with local > members. That's what we do here, and I should not make a mistake saying > that european people first feels being from their countries before feeling > European. I consider myself as being more French than European, however, > Europe IS bigger than France and gives many laws to us. This therefore does not change the role of these 'local entities' which manage this face to face job but actually provide them with central resource instead of letting them 'working on their own' Moreover having this may reinforce Fedora identity ensuring we are present when needed giving a unified message. I do not understand the need of creating NPO for each (country) group. This may become a mess and make thinks difficult to follow and manage. It may be worse designing for each country a kind of 'manager' who may be the interface between Fedora EMEA NPO and the local community. Advocating on their needs and providing resources for local activities. > People are far from Europe from my point of view. EMEA organisation is > good, but I personaly think it will be much easier task to communicate with > identified local entities than with so many different local ambassadors. > > > Thomas Canniot It was just my 0.2 $ Cheers, -- Jonathan Basse Belgium Fedora Ambassador -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 29 21:59:56 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:59:56 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] CLT08 Preparation Message-ID: <200802292300.06564.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> one year is gone since we had our FedoraBooth on CLT07 and after a warm up last week on FOSDEM once again we have a booth on CLT08 in the middle of CentOS and OpenBSD . CLT is the most important FOSS(only) related event besides Linuxtag Berlin in Germany with around 4000 visitors. As the organizer points out the motto this year is "Free Knowledge and Free Culture" and the main attraction is the OLPC presented by a group olpc.at and SkoleLinux. So i updated my knowledge about OLPC, to ask the right questions and know my words about the deep hints about the relation of OLPC and the Fedora Project. Booth build up will start tomorrow at 06:00 pm - and sadly we are only three Ambassadors RobertScheck and JensKuehnel and i, we have LiveDVD?s, the "I am Fedora" Shirts with the old Logo, Generic Posters on Truckplane, Posters from FrancescoCrippa who gave us some Posters on FOSDEM and a big Fedora Flag. Jens will give a talk - i could not see his talk on FOSDEM so i have another chance. I covered many events in the past and truly this is the best organized event in europe! Another hint - they have the best social event i know! So if you can come this year - be there - and if not, don?t miss it next year. RobertScheck and i are save arrived at CLT and build up the booth - like last year we have a table and a wall. We carefull decorated with the Posters we have and then we hung a Fedora Flag on a wall above the booth - hope we don?t get in trouble with that ;-) We get our Identity Cards and meal tickets - and will enjoy the start tomorrow morning at 08:00 am. Many potential contributors are waiting to be hired ;) Bye Joerg -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: