From tchung at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 1 20:02:54 2008 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 12:02:54 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCo Election 2007 Voting Begins Message-ID: <369bce3b0801011202t7414e489s79660d55705e238c@mail.gmail.com> FAMSCo Election 2007 Voting System is available now until January 8th. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/vote.cgi The voting system being used for this election is known as Approval Voting. In approval voting you have two basic choices: voting for a candidate means you approve of their getting the position. Not voting for them means you don't approve of them. Happy New Year Everyone! -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From fzied at dottn.com Wed Jan 2 07:50:21 2008 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 08:50:21 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Happy New Year Message-ID: Happy New Year Ambassadors. Wish you health, happiness and prosperity. May 2008 be a glorious year for Fedora and us. -- Zied Fakhfakh Dot TN - CTO Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis T : +216 71 886112 F : +216 71 885499 M : +216 22 535604 W : http://www.dottn.com GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C From eagerclouds at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 07:53:12 2008 From: eagerclouds at gmail.com (dustfly 2003) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 15:53:12 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Happy new Year! On Jan 2, 2008 3:50 PM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > Happy New Year Ambassadors. > Wish you health, happiness and prosperity. > May 2008 be a glorious year for Fedora and us. > > > -- > Zied Fakhfakh > Dot TN - CTO > Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 > Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis > > T : +216 71 886112 > F : +216 71 885499 > M : +216 22 535604 > W : http://www.dottn.com > > GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mosonkonrad at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 08:42:28 2008 From: mosonkonrad at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Konrad_Moso=F1?=) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 09:42:28 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <62b1552c0801020042j10749ca3lfc27aaa3951a522c@mail.gmail.com> HAPPY NEW YEAR FROM POLAND! Great work with Fedora! :) 2008/1/2, dustfly 2003 : > Happy new Year! > > > On Jan 2, 2008 3:50 PM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > > Happy New Year Ambassadors. > > Wish you health, happiness and prosperity. > > May 2008 be a glorious year for Fedora and us. > > > > > > -- > > Zied Fakhfakh > > Dot TN - CTO > > Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 > > Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis > > > > T : +216 71 886112 > > F : +216 71 885499 > > M : +216 22 535604 > > W : http://www.dottn.com > > > > GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > From henrique_csj at yahoo.com.br Wed Jan 2 09:51:53 2008 From: henrique_csj at yahoo.com.br (Henrique de Castro) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 01:51:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Res: [Ambassadors] Happy New Year Message-ID: <455857.90041.qm@web45516.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Happy new year from the Brazilian team! =) Henrique "LonelySpooky" Junior "The best diplomat that I know is a fully-loaded phaser bank." Lt. Cdr. Montgomery Scott ("A Taste of Armageddon") ----- Mensagem original ---- De: Konrad Moso? Para: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 2 de Janeiro de 2008 6:42:28 Assunto: Re: [Ambassadors] Happy New Year HAPPY NEW YEAR FROM POLAND! Great work with Fedora! :) 2008/1/2, dustfly 2003 : > Happy new Year! > > > On Jan 2, 2008 3:50 PM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > > Happy New Year Ambassadors. > > Wish you health, happiness and prosperity. > > May 2008 be a glorious year for Fedora and us. > > > > > > -- > > Zied Fakhfakh > > Dot TN - CTO > > Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 > > Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis > > > > T : +216 71 886112 > > F : +216 71 885499 > > M : +216 22 535604 > > W : http://www.dottn.com > > > > GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Abra sua conta no Yahoo! 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El mi?, 02-01-2008 a las 08:50 +0100, Zied Fakhfakh escribi?: > Happy New Year Ambassadors. > Wish you health, happiness and prosperity. > May 2008 be a glorious year for Fedora and us. > > -- Eduardo Villagr?n Morales Embajador Fedora Linuxdiinf.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Esta parte del mensaje est? firmada digitalmente URL: From mr.gopal.das at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 17:48:05 2008 From: mr.gopal.das at gmail.com (gopal das) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 23:18:05 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <1199286925.2739.1.camel@caleuche> References: <1199286925.2739.1.camel@caleuche> Message-ID: <6f631c430801020948w3bbc496av69e2a7cdd32f7853@mail.gmail.com> Happy new year from India to everybody at fedora project. 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URL: From jonstanley at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 18:38:30 2008 From: jonstanley at gmail.com (Jon Stanley) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 12:38:30 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <6f631c430801020948w3bbc496av69e2a7cdd32f7853@mail.gmail.com> References: <1199286925.2739.1.camel@caleuche> <6f631c430801020948w3bbc496av69e2a7cdd32f7853@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Happy new year from the US. My Fedora new years resolutions: * Build a bug triage team for Fedora that is community-based. * Assist Fedora Infrastructure with documentation * Free media * Talks about Fedora as opportunities present themselves. The first one is absolutely critical, and I welcome any suggestions or comments on how to do this. On Jan 2, 2008 11:48 AM, gopal das wrote: > Happy new year from India to everybody at fedora project. > Cheers > Gopal Das > > > > > > On Jan 2, 2008 8:45 PM, Eduardo Villagr?n Morales > wrote: > > > > > > > > Feliz A?o Nuevo (happy new year) and a good year for Fedora! > > El mi?, 02-01-2008 a las 08:50 +0100, Zied Fakhfakh escribi?: > > > > > > > > > Happy New Year Ambassadors. > > > Wish you health, happiness and prosperity. > > > May 2008 be a glorious year for Fedora and us. > > > > > > > > -- > > Eduardo Villagr?n Morales > > Embajador Fedora > > Linuxdiinf.org > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Jon Stanley Fedora Ambassador jstanley at fedoraproject.org From makghosh at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 18:53:32 2008 From: makghosh at gmail.com (Arindam Ghosh) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 00:23:32 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <6f631c430801020948w3bbc496av69e2a7cdd32f7853@mail.gmail.com> References: <1199286925.2739.1.camel@caleuche> <6f631c430801020948w3bbc496av69e2a7cdd32f7853@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8990327d0801021053h670a59dbr8ac270336a14c0e1@mail.gmail.com> HAPPY NEW YEAR to all of you Well I am quite new to the Fedora Ambassadors group. I would like to introduce myself....it's been a little late due to the holidays :) So, I am Arindam Ghosh. I live in Durgapur, one of the steel cities of India. I have been in the opensource world for last couple of years. Ever since I have been using Fedora. Well, currently I am pursuing my B.Tech (3rd year) in Computer Science & Engineering from Dr. B. C. Roy Engineering College, Durgapur. As far as technical skills are concerned i am quite comfortable with C++, Python & bash scripts. I have been a part of the Fedora Packaging[1] and Translation groups for quite some time. I am also an active member of dgplug, Durgapur and ILUG-Kolkata. I am involved in the 'LTSP implementation in Fedora 7' at Bijra School Project[2] as well, spearheaded by dgplug. Well, i also have been in organizing team of the linux installfests, 'day with fedora' & other lug-events. Notably, the three install fests[3] at WBUT were the first of their kind in the eastern region of India. I think there is ample scope of spreading the word of Fedora, Linux & opensource in my region. I have being doing so whenever i get a chance. So, I can definitely carry on this good work in a better way as a Fedora Ambassador [1] [https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/users/packages/makghosh] [2] [http://bijra.dgplug.org] [http://arindamghosh.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/ltsp-training-wbut/] [3] [http://arindamghosh.wordpress.com/2007/08/27/first-linux-install-fest-wbut/] -- Arindam Ghosh Fedora Ambassador Durgapur, WB, India [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ArindamGhosh] [http://arindamghosh.wordpress.com] GPG Key: 0EE58920 Key Server: http://pgp.mit.edu From gdk at redhat.com Wed Jan 2 19:01:53 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 14:01:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <8990327d0801021053h670a59dbr8ac270336a14c0e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1199286925.2739.1.camel@caleuche> <6f631c430801020948w3bbc496av69e2a7cdd32f7853@mail.gmail.com> <8990327d0801021053h670a59dbr8ac270336a14c0e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 3 Jan 2008, Arindam Ghosh wrote: > I have been a part of the Fedora Packaging[1] and Translation groups for > quite some time. I am also an active member of dgplug, Durgapur and > ILUG-Kolkata. I am involved in the 'LTSP implementation in Fedora 7' at > Bijra School Project[2] as well, spearheaded by dgplug. Well, i also > have been in organizing team of the linux installfests, 'day with > fedora' & other lug-events. Notably, the three install fests[3] at WBUT > were the first of their kind in the eastern region of India. Very nice. What's your opinion of K12LTSP? Has it been useful? --g -- Greg DeKoenigsberg Community Development Manager Red Hat, Inc. :: 1-919-754-4255 "To whomsoever much hath been given... ...from him much shall be asked" From polytropolis at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 19:48:46 2008 From: polytropolis at gmail.com (Claus Reheis) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:48:46 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1199303326.13450.0.camel@mainstation> Happy new year Claus On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 08:50 +0100, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > Happy New Year Ambassadors. > Wish you health, happiness and prosperity. > May 2008 be a glorious year for Fedora and us. > > From makghosh at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 2 19:59:14 2008 From: makghosh at fedoraproject.org (Arindam Ghosh) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 01:29:14 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: References: <1199286925.2739.1.camel@caleuche> <6f631c430801020948w3bbc496av69e2a7cdd32f7853@mail.gmail.com> <8990327d0801021053h670a59dbr8ac270336a14c0e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8990327d0801021159s5c948cf7j6c1f23b9b0c49b4e@mail.gmail.com> On Jan 3, 2008 12:31 AM, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jan 2008, Arindam Ghosh wrote: > > > I have been a part of the Fedora Packaging[1] and Translation groups for > > quite some time. I am also an active member of dgplug, Durgapur and > > ILUG-Kolkata. I am involved in the 'LTSP implementation in Fedora 7' at > > Bijra School Project[2] as well, spearheaded by dgplug. Well, i also > > have been in organizing team of the linux installfests, 'day with > > fedora' & other lug-events. Notably, the three install fests[3] at WBUT > > were the first of their kind in the eastern region of India. > > Very nice. What's your opinion of K12LTSP? Has it been useful? yeah....obviously. Though we actually used LTSP 4.2u2 from ltsp.org in our project. But certainly the documentations and FAQ's of K12LTSP have helped a lot. Also, troubleshooting thingy over there helped at times of mess :) I can remember the challenge of bringing up network audio & local device access on the terminals....looking forward to help out more in ltsp 5 integration with fedora and k12ltsp even...:) cheers Arindam -- GPG Key: 0EE58920 Key Server: http://pgp.mit.edu From gerold at lugd.org Wed Jan 2 20:12:48 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:12:48 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA, FOSDEM in February Message-ID: <1199304768.3303.33.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Hi Guys, has anybody of the responsible taken the task to look for accomodation of the FEDORA Group in ONE Hotel? It makes sense, because of many task we have to solve outside and beside the FOSDEM. Thanks for your reply who'll organize .. Btw.: Happy new year, too :-) -- Regards Gerold Kassube Fedora Ambassador Deutschland / Germany Schweiz / Switzerland Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 2 20:39:35 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 21:39:35 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Chemnitzer Linuxtage Message-ID: <200801022139.54101.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Notice for EMEA Ambassadors, today i applied the Booth for "Chemnitzer Linuxtage 2008 (CLT)"[1] Contributors: JensKuehnel RobertScheck JoergSimon we can handle this event with 3 persons but one more Ambassador would be helpfull. If you are interested, you can read a report from 2007 [2] and to support us contact me. [1] http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2008/info/ [2] http://fedoranews.org/cms/node/2757 cheers Joerg -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 3 09:52:47 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:52:47 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA, FOSDEM in February In-Reply-To: <1199304768.3303.33.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> References: <1199304768.3303.33.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: Yes, i agree with this solution. Please can you give an answer soon (i had to book the airplane tickets). Regards Francesco Ugolini 2008/1/2, Gerold Kassube : > > Hi Guys, > > has anybody of the responsible taken the task to look for accomodation > of the FEDORA Group in ONE Hotel? > > It makes sense, because of many task we have to solve outside and beside > the FOSDEM. > > Thanks for your reply who'll organize .. > > Btw.: Happy new year, too :-) > > -- > Regards > > Gerold Kassube > Fedora Ambassador > > Deutschland / Germany > Schweiz / Switzerland > Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org > > 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please can you give an answer soon (i had > to book the airplane tickets). > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > 2008/1/2, Gerold Kassube < gerold at lugd.org>: > > > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > has anybody of the responsible taken the task to look for accomodation > > of the FEDORA Group in ONE Hotel? > > > > It makes sense, because of many task we have to solve outside and beside > > the FOSDEM. > > > > Thanks for your reply who'll organize .. > > > > Btw.: Happy new year, too :-) > > > > -- > > Regards > > > > Gerold Kassube > > Fedora Ambassador > > > > Deutschland / Germany > > Schweiz / Switzerland > > Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org > > > > 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org From gerold at lugd.org Thu Jan 3 10:53:31 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 11:53:31 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA, FOSDEM in February In-Reply-To: <3161376e0801030249y1a507769m1e43c4c713dd2518@mail.gmail.com> References: <1199304768.3303.33.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <3161376e0801030249y1a507769m1e43c4c713dd2518@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2301.217.162.12.42.1199357611.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Sorry Frederic, we don't want to look at the accomodation section :-( We want you to organize a "staying" somewhere for ALL attending FEDORA Ambassadors ... Is that possible for you, or not? Please let us (all) know ... Regards Gerold > Hi, > > FYI, you can see all details about accommodation at the following URL > : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008 under > the accommodation section. > > Best Regards > Frederic > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain > > > > On Jan 3, 2008 10:52 AM, Francesco Ugolini > wrote: >> Yes, i agree with this solution. Please can you give an answer soon (i >> had >> to book the airplane tickets). >> >> Regards >> >> Francesco Ugolini >> >> 2008/1/2, Gerold Kassube < gerold at lugd.org>: >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi Guys, >> > >> > has anybody of the responsible taken the task to look for accomodation >> > of the FEDORA Group in ONE Hotel? >> > >> > It makes sense, because of many task we have to solve outside and >> beside >> > the FOSDEM. >> > >> > Thanks for your reply who'll organize .. >> > >> > Btw.: Happy new year, too :-) >> > >> > -- >> > Regards >> > >> > Gerold Kassube >> > Fedora Ambassador >> > >> > Deutschland / Germany >> > Schweiz / Switzerland >> > Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org >> > >> > 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 >> > >> > -- >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Olpc mailing list > olpc-open at laptop.org > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch Thu Jan 3 11:51:40 2008 From: red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch (red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:51:40 +0100 (GMT+01:00) Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA, FOSDEM in February In-Reply-To: <2301.217.162.12.42.1199357611.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <1199304768.3303.33.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <3161376e0801030249y1a507769m1e43c4c713dd2518@mail.gmail.com> <2301.217.162.12.42.1199357611.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <1262737636.39581199361100716.JavaMail.open-xchange@ox4> Hello Frederic, hello FOSDEM-participants, hello ambassadors Gerold's right. IMHO it's part of the local/responsible ambassadors-team to organize the accomodation for the foreign ambassadors who come to help. For one, it's easier for local people to organize a group-accomodation since they know both, language and customs. Second, this shows the foreign helping ambassadors that they're welcome. To be frank, I won't book any flight unless I know that there's an accomodation waiting for us. best regards Sandro / red Gerold hat am 3. Januar 2008 um 11:53 geschrieben: > Sorry Frederic, > > we don't want to look at the accomodation section :-( > We want you to organize a "staying" somewhere for ALL attending FEDORA > Ambassadors ... > Is that possible for you, or not? > > Please let us (all) know ... > > Regards > > Gerold > > > Hi, > > > > FYI, you can see all details about accommodation at the following URL > > : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008 under > > the accommodation section. > > > > Best Regards > > Frederic > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain > > > > > > > > On Jan 3, 2008 10:52 AM, Francesco Ugolini > > wrote: > >> Yes, i agree with this solution. Please can you give an answer soon (i > >> had > >> to book the airplane tickets). > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Francesco Ugolini > >> > >> 2008/1/2, Gerold Kassube < gerold at lugd.org>: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Hi Guys, > >> > > >> > has anybody of the responsible taken the task to look for accomodation > >> > of the FEDORA Group in ONE Hotel? > >> > > >> > It makes sense, because of many task we have to solve outside and > >> beside > >> > the FOSDEM. > >> > > >> > Thanks for your reply who'll organize .. > >> > > >> > Btw.: Happy new year, too :-) > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Regards > >> > > >> > Gerold Kassube > >> > Fedora Ambassador > >> > > >> > Deutschland / Germany > >> > Schweiz / Switzerland > >> > Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org > >> > > >> > 1024D/F33128B9? ?4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > Olpc mailing list > > olpc-open at laptop.org > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fhornain at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 12:27:18 2008 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:27:18 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA, FOSDEM in February In-Reply-To: <1262737636.39581199361100716.JavaMail.open-xchange@ox4> References: <1199304768.3303.33.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <3161376e0801030249y1a507769m1e43c4c713dd2518@mail.gmail.com> <2301.217.162.12.42.1199357611.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <1262737636.39581199361100716.JavaMail.open-xchange@ox4> Message-ID: <3161376e0801030427u104504behaaca3e8453119103@mail.gmail.com> Dear *, Well, I understand your point of views but you have also to understand mine. Unfortunately for me, I am alone and I have not got so much time to archive that task for everyone. Nonetheless, I think you can book at Sleep Well Youth Hostel individualy. Theirs prices are correct - http://www.sleepwell.be/EN/prices.html - if you take a 8 beds room. In addition I am pretty sure they would understand you if you specify that you want to book a bed with the Fedora group. Now, understand me it would be quite difficult for me to choose the best room/price for each person as I do not know what are the preferences of everyone. Thanks a lot for you comprehension. Frederic Have Fun with F8 On Jan 3, 2008 12:51 PM, red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch wrote: > Hello Frederic, hello FOSDEM-participants, hello ambassadors > > Gerold's right. IMHO it's part of the local/responsible ambassadors-team to > organize the accomodation for the foreign ambassadors who come to help. > > For one, it's easier for local people to organize a group-accomodation since > they know both, language and customs. Second, this shows the foreign helping > ambassadors that they're welcome. > > To be frank, I won't book any flight unless I know that there's an > accomodation waiting for us. > > best regards > Sandro / red > > Gerold hat am 3. Januar 2008 um 11:53 geschrieben: > > > > > Sorry Frederic, > > > > we don't want to look at the accomodation section :-( > > We want you to organize a "staying" somewhere for ALL attending FEDORA > > Ambassadors ... > > Is that possible for you, or not? > > > > Please let us (all) know ... > > > > Regards > > > > Gerold > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > FYI, you can see all details about accommodation at the following URL > > > : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008 under > > > the accommodation section. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Frederic > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 3, 2008 10:52 AM, Francesco Ugolini > > > wrote: > > >> Yes, i agree with this solution. Please can you give an answer soon (i > > >> had > > >> to book the airplane tickets). > > >> > > >> Regards > > >> > > >> Francesco Ugolini > > >> > > >> 2008/1/2, Gerold Kassube < gerold at lugd.org>: > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Hi Guys, > > >> > > > >> > has anybody of the responsible taken the task to look for > accomodation > > >> > of the FEDORA Group in ONE Hotel? > > >> > > > >> > It makes sense, because of many task we have to solve outside and > > >> beside > > >> > the FOSDEM. > > >> > > > >> > Thanks for your reply who'll organize .. > > >> > > > >> > Btw.: Happy new year, too :-) > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > Regards > > >> > > > >> > Gerold Kassube > > >> > Fedora Ambassador > > >> > > > >> > Deutschland / Germany > > >> > Schweiz / Switzerland > > >> > Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org > > >> > > > >> > 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > Olpc mailing list > > > olpc-open at laptop.org > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 3 16:01:59 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:31:59 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: <8990327d0801021159s5c948cf7j6c1f23b9b0c49b4e@mail.gmail.com> References: <1199286925.2739.1.camel@caleuche> <6f631c430801020948w3bbc496av69e2a7cdd32f7853@mail.gmail.com> <8990327d0801021053h670a59dbr8ac270336a14c0e1@mail.gmail.com> <8990327d0801021159s5c948cf7j6c1f23b9b0c49b4e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <477D06F7.2040403@fedoraproject.org> Arindam Ghosh wrote: > > yeah....obviously. Though we actually used LTSP 4.2u2 from ltsp.org in > our project. But certainly the documentations and FAQ's of K12LTSP > have helped a lot. Also, troubleshooting thingy over there helped at > times of mess :) I can remember the challenge of bringing up network > audio & local device access on the terminals....looking forward to > help out more in ltsp 5 integration with fedora and k12ltsp even...:) There are specific things you can get involved with and now is in fact the ideal time. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/K12Linux http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/K12Linux You can talk to Warren Togami and Eric Harrison if you need more details. Rahul From fedora.lin at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 16:16:18 2008 From: fedora.lin at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Lin) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:16:18 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Happy New Year In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Happy new year for all! 2008/1/2, Zied Fakhfakh : > > Happy New Year Ambassadors. > Wish you health, happiness and prosperity. > May 2008 be a glorious year for Fedora and us. > > > -- > Zied Fakhfakh > Dot TN - CTO > Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 > Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis > > T : +216 71 886112 > F : +216 71 885499 > M : +216 22 535604 > W : http://www.dottn.com > > GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Juan Carlos Lin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerold at lugd.org Thu Jan 3 18:10:52 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:10:52 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA, FOSDEM in February In-Reply-To: <3161376e0801030427u104504behaaca3e8453119103@mail.gmail.com> References: <1199304768.3303.33.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <3161376e0801030249y1a507769m1e43c4c713dd2518@mail.gmail.com> <2301.217.162.12.42.1199357611.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <1262737636.39581199361100716.JavaMail.open-xchange@ox4> <3161376e0801030427u104504behaaca3e8453119103@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1199383852.3863.8.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Dear Frederic, Dear FOSDEM-Participants, we have to accept that Frederic can't help us. But as more or less "some of you" know, we have to do some other tasks regarding the EMEA NPO and imho it is IMPORTANT for us to have a dedicated accomodation where we can have also non-FOSDEM discussions etc. So I like to ask all of you (around Bruxelles) who can help US to find a place for FEDORA Ambassadors?! Bart; are you around there? Regards Gerold Btw.: maybe other events are planned in another way and kind. But my personal opinion is that this part should be planned by the local heros around the event Am Donnerstag, den 03.01.2008, 13:27 +0100 schrieb Frederic Hornain: > Dear *, > > Well, I understand your point of views but you have also to understand mine. > Unfortunately for me, I am alone and I have not got so much time to > archive that task for everyone. > > Nonetheless, I think you can book at Sleep Well Youth Hostel individualy. > Theirs prices are correct - http://www.sleepwell.be/EN/prices.html - > if you take a 8 beds room. > In addition I am pretty sure they would understand you if you specify > that you want to book a bed with the Fedora group. > > Now, understand me it would be quite difficult for me to choose the > best room/price for each person as I do not know what are the > preferences of everyone. > > Thanks a lot for you comprehension. > > Frederic > Have Fun with F8 > > > On Jan 3, 2008 12:51 PM, red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch > wrote: > > Hello Frederic, hello FOSDEM-participants, hello ambassadors > > > > Gerold's right. IMHO it's part of the local/responsible ambassadors-team to > > organize the accomodation for the foreign ambassadors who come to help. > > > > For one, it's easier for local people to organize a group-accomodation since > > they know both, language and customs. Second, this shows the foreign helping > > ambassadors that they're welcome. > > > > To be frank, I won't book any flight unless I know that there's an > > accomodation waiting for us. > > > > best regards > > Sandro / red > > > > Gerold hat am 3. Januar 2008 um 11:53 geschrieben: > > > > > > > > > Sorry Frederic, > > > > > > we don't want to look at the accomodation section :-( > > > We want you to organize a "staying" somewhere for ALL attending FEDORA > > > Ambassadors ... > > > Is that possible for you, or not? > > > > > > Please let us (all) know ... > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Gerold > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > FYI, you can see all details about accommodation at the following URL > > > > : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008 under > > > > the accommodation section. > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Frederic > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 3, 2008 10:52 AM, Francesco Ugolini > > > > wrote: > > > >> Yes, i agree with this solution. Please can you give an answer soon (i > > > >> had > > > >> to book the airplane tickets). > > > >> > > > >> Regards > > > >> > > > >> Francesco Ugolini > > > >> > > > >> 2008/1/2, Gerold Kassube < gerold at lugd.org>: > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Hi Guys, > > > >> > > > > >> > has anybody of the responsible taken the task to look for > > accomodation > > > >> > of the FEDORA Group in ONE Hotel? > > > >> > > > > >> > It makes sense, because of many task we have to solve outside and > > > >> beside > > > >> > the FOSDEM. > > > >> > > > > >> > Thanks for your reply who'll organize .. > > > >> > > > > >> > Btw.: Happy new year, too :-) > > > >> > > > > >> > -- > > > >> > Regards > > > >> > > > > >> > Gerold Kassube > > > >> > Fedora Ambassador > > > >> > > > > >> > Deutschland / Germany > > > >> > Schweiz / Switzerland > > > >> > Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org > > > >> > > > > >> > 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 > > > >> > > > > >> > -- > > > >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > Olpc mailing list > > > > olpc-open at laptop.org > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > -- Gerold Kassube -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The hope is that this will help make it easier for Ambassadors to find a source for materials for their event from a vendor that already has some familiarity of a typical Fedora order. An Ambassador should be able to contact one of the vendors on the page and carry out the ordering process with ease. This page will also be a source of information for a store.fedoraproject.org page being discussed and planned by the Store SIG [1]. If you have any questions feel free to post them to the list or find me on IRC. Thanks! Jeffrey a.k.a. iWolf on IRC [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store From gerold at lugd.org Mon Jan 7 21:05:37 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 22:05:37 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] xing - Membership Message-ID: <1199739937.4165.2.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Dear *, I created on XING (former openBC) a new "group" called "Fedora Ambassadors" in which I want to invite you all to join. At the moment this group is only "modereated" by myself, but if you willing also to do so, please let me know :-) CU @ xing :-) -- Regards Gerold Kassube Fedora Ambassador Deutschland / Germany Schweiz / Switzerland Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From tchung at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 7 22:01:48 2008 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 14:01:48 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCo Election 2007 Voting Reminder Message-ID: <369bce3b0801071401s57a63307v1c8174edb18586ec@mail.gmail.com> FAMSCo Election 2007 Voting System will be closing on January 8th 23:59 PM. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/vote.cgi We'll announce the result as soon as it's available. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch Mon Jan 7 22:20:07 2008 From: red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch (red_alert) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:20:07 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] xing - Membership In-Reply-To: <1199739937.4165.2.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> References: <1199739937.4165.2.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: <4782A597.9000509@the-psychiatry.ch> Dear all Funny thing as I did the same thing for all Fedora people (not only ambassadors). The group was opened today and is called "Fedora Project". You're invited there as well, the group is open to everyone without restrictions. Kind regards Sandro / red Gerold Kassube wrote: > Dear *, > > I created on XING (former openBC) a new "group" called "Fedora > Ambassadors" in which I want to invite you all to join. > > At the moment this group is only "modereated" by myself, but if you > willing also to do so, please let me know :-) > > CU @ xing :-) > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From rogepix at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 00:06:14 2008 From: rogepix at gmail.com (giuseppe pignataro) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 01:06:14 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] I come back Message-ID: <34680d50801071606r305708dds66628702b24e8b68@mail.gmail.com> Dear Member of the list, For some personal problem I could not partecipate to yhe project in an active way.But from now I'm already here and this time with the intention to do everything possible for the project. Thanks, Giuseppe -- Giuseppe Pignataro From subhodip at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 8 04:29:20 2008 From: subhodip at fedoraproject.org (subhodip biswas) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 09:59:20 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] I come back In-Reply-To: <34680d50801071606r305708dds66628702b24e8b68@mail.gmail.com> References: <34680d50801071606r305708dds66628702b24e8b68@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <539333cb0801072029v58abfa2pcc8fe75891d13453@mail.gmail.com> welcome back On Jan 8, 2008 5:36 AM, giuseppe pignataro wrote: > Dear Member of the list, > For some personal problem I could not partecipate to yhe project in an > active way.But from now I'm already here and this time with the > intention to do everything possible for the project. > > Thanks, > Giuseppe -- Regards Subhodip Biswas GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas From marc at mwiriadi.id.au Tue Jan 8 09:19:29 2008 From: marc at mwiriadi.id.au (Marc Wiriadisastra) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:19:29 +0900 Subject: [Ambassadors] I come back In-Reply-To: <34680d50801071606r305708dds66628702b24e8b68@mail.gmail.com> References: <34680d50801071606r305708dds66628702b24e8b68@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1199783969.20753.108.camel@localhost.localdomain> Welcome back :) On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 01:06 +0100, giuseppe pignataro wrote: > Dear Member of the list, > For some personal problem I could not partecipate to yhe project in an > active way.But from now I'm already here and this time with the > intention to do everything possible for the project. > > Thanks, > Giuseppe > > From fcrippa at byte-code.com Tue Jan 8 11:14:07 2008 From: fcrippa at byte-code.com (Francesco Crippa) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:14:07 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] xing - Membership In-Reply-To: <1199739937.4165.2.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: <62696494.8851199790847993.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> ----- "Gerold Kassube" wrote: > Dear *, > > I created on XING (former openBC) a new "group" called "Fedora > Ambassadors" in which I want to invite you all to join. > > At the moment this group is only "modereated" by myself, but if you > willing also to do so, please let me know :-) > [...] +1 why don't we open a group also on Linkedin? There're a lot of "fedorans" in mugshot with a Linkedin account... and I think could be a good marketing opportunity to increase fedora visibility into social networks. If you agree (or not disagree) with this idea, I can try to open a new group. (I'm thinking about a script in order to automate mass-scale group subscription... ;-) let me know. Bye Francesco -- -------------------------------------------- Francesco Crippa http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 18:47:25 2008 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 19:47:25 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] xing - Membership In-Reply-To: <62696494.8851199790847993.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <1199739937.4165.2.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <62696494.8851199790847993.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <50baabb30801081047o5dd934c4y215d90cd703e9f5@mail.gmail.com> On Jan 8, 2008 12:14 PM, Francesco Crippa wrote: > why don't we open a group also on Linkedin? There're a lot of "fedorans" in mugshot with a Linkedin account... and I think could be a good marketing opportunity to increase fedora visibility into social networks. There are fedora groups in: * facebook you can even add yourself as a fan of fedora Again in facebook, there is an application called "linux", you can use the latter to show people which OS you use. * there is a fedora group in plaxo as well. regards, Chitlesh From ben.lewis at benl.co.uk Tue Jan 8 19:36:30 2008 From: ben.lewis at benl.co.uk (Benjamin Lewis) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 19:36:30 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] xing - Membership In-Reply-To: <50baabb30801081047o5dd934c4y215d90cd703e9f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <1199739937.4165.2.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <62696494.8851199790847993.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <50baabb30801081047o5dd934c4y215d90cd703e9f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200801081936.34791.ben.lewis@benl.co.uk> On Tuesday 08 January 2008 06:47:25 pm Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On Jan 8, 2008 12:14 PM, Francesco Crippa wrote: > > why don't we open a group also on Linkedin? There're a lot of "fedorans" > > in mugshot with a Linkedin account... and I think could be a good > > marketing opportunity to increase fedora visibility into social networks. > > There are fedora groups in: > * facebook > you can even add yourself as a fan of fedora There is now also a Fedora Ambassadors group, to which you are all invited! > > Again in facebook, there is an application called "linux", you can use > the latter to show people which OS you use. > > * there is a fedora group in plaxo as well. > > regards, > Chitlesh > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Benjamin Lewis Fedora Ambassador ben.lewis at benl.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- http://benl.co.uk./ PGP Key: 0x647E480C "In cases of major discrepancy, it is always reality that got it wrong" -- RFC 1118 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There're a lot of > "fedorans" > > > in mugshot with a Linkedin account... and I think could be a good > > > marketing opportunity to increase fedora visibility into social > networks. > > > > There are fedora groups in: > > * facebook > > you can even add yourself as a fan of fedora > > There is now also a Fedora Ambassadors group, to which you are all > invited! > > > > > Again in facebook, there is an application called "linux", you can use > > the latter to show people which OS you use. > > > > * there is a fedora group in plaxo as well. > > > > regards, > > Chitlesh > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > > Benjamin Lewis > Fedora Ambassador > ben.lewis at benl.co.uk > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://benl.co.uk./ PGP Key: 0x647E480C > > "In cases of major discrepancy, it is always reality that got it wrong" > -- RFC 1118 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best Regards, John Babich Fedora Ambassador From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 9 08:08:56 2008 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 00:08:56 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCo 2007 Election Result Message-ID: <369bce3b0801090008u8fca85oaf94eda975b2d409@mail.gmail.com> FAMSCo 2007 Election Result is _IN_! 69 people voted vote | fedora account | full name ----------------------------------- 41 | rodrigop | Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira 34 | mrtomtes | Thomas Canniot 32 | fugolini | Francesco Ugolini 31 | fab | Fabian Affolter 24 | jeffreyt | Jeffrey Tadlock 22 | andreasr | Andreas Rau 22 | jmbabich | John Babich +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 17 | pbarrera | Pablo Bernab? Barrera 16 | red | Sandro Mathys 14 | mukuld | Mukul Dharwadkar 11 | amoncada | Alejandro Moncada Congratulations to Rodrigo, Thomas, Francesco, Fabian, Jeffrey, Andreas and John! Also I would like to thank Toshio for providing Fedora Voting System. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch Wed Jan 9 09:10:40 2008 From: red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch (red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:10:40 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCo 2007 Election Result In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0801090008u8fca85oaf94eda975b2d409@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0801090008u8fca85oaf94eda975b2d409@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <932557339.89361199869840420.JavaMail.open-xchange@ox3> Congratulations to the new FAmSCo members! I'd also like to thank the people who gave me a vote. And thank you for electing 4 EMEA (more precisely European) ambassadors, that's a great sign of support towards our work here in Europe. I feel that the ambassadors have chosen the right people for FAmSCo. I'm a little disappointed, though - not because I wasn't elected myself (I knew that there's at least 7 better fitting nominees before), but because only 69 out of 291 verified ambassadors [1] voted on the most important election for all ambassadors! That's quite a sad fact. Anyway, I look forward to a great 2008 with the newly put together FAmSCo and wish its members a successful incumbency! Regards red [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification Thomas Chung hat am 9. Januar 2008 um 09:08 geschrieben: > FAMSCo 2007 Election Result is _IN_! > > 69 people voted >? ? ? vote |? fedora account | full name > ----------------------------------- >? ? ? ? ?41 | rodrigop | Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira >? ? ? ? ?34 | mrtomtes | Thomas Canniot >? ? ? ? ?32 | fugolini | Francesco Ugolini >? ? ? ? ?31 | fab? ? ? | Fabian Affolter >? ? ? ? ?24 | jeffreyt | Jeffrey Tadlock >? ? ? ? ?22 | andreasr | Andreas Rau >? ? ? ? ?22 | jmbabich | John Babich > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >? ? ? ? ?17 | pbarrera | Pablo Bernab? Barrera >? ? ? ? ?16 | red? ? ? | Sandro Mathys >? ? ? ? ?14 | mukuld? ?| Mukul Dharwadkar >? ? ? ? ?11 | amoncada | Alejandro Moncada > > Congratulations to Rodrigo, Thomas, Francesco, Fabian, Jeffrey, > Andreas and John! > Also I would like to thank Toshio for providing Fedora Voting System. > Regards, > -- > Thomas Chung > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Wed Jan 9 15:37:10 2008 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 10:37:10 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCo 2007 Election Result In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0801090008u8fca85oaf94eda975b2d409@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0801090008u8fca85oaf94eda975b2d409@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4784EA26.6080406@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Congratulations to all elected members!! Thank you to all who voted for me! Best Regards Rodrigo Padula Brazilian Fedora Project http://www.projetofedora.org Thomas Chung escreveu: | FAMSCo 2007 Election Result is _IN_! | | 69 people voted | vote | fedora account | full name | ----------------------------------- | 41 | rodrigop | Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira | 34 | mrtomtes | Thomas Canniot | 32 | fugolini | Francesco Ugolini | 31 | fab | Fabian Affolter | 24 | jeffreyt | Jeffrey Tadlock | 22 | andreasr | Andreas Rau | 22 | jmbabich | John Babich | +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | 17 | pbarrera | Pablo Bernab? Barrera | 16 | red | Sandro Mathys | 14 | mukuld | Mukul Dharwadkar | 11 | amoncada | Alejandro Moncada | | Congratulations to Rodrigo, Thomas, Francesco, Fabian, Jeffrey, | Andreas and John! | Also I would like to thank Toshio for providing Fedora Voting System. | Regards, -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHhOolPg3HAC1vlg4RAjxsAJ9M9a3FssGn8ULy6iI0nsxhkCkimQCgvwdl Erj5K7uYBCZqF7B1U+Q69O4= =Anoj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From subhodip at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 9 13:25:06 2008 From: subhodip at fedoraproject.org (subhodip biswas) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 18:55:06 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCo 2007 Election Result In-Reply-To: <4784EA26.6080406@projetofedora.org> References: <369bce3b0801090008u8fca85oaf94eda975b2d409@mail.gmail.com> <4784EA26.6080406@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <539333cb0801090525h96ce850j2126206a099a8d4b@mail.gmail.com> Hearty congrats to all new elected members of FAmSCo. On Jan 9, 2008 9:07 PM, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Congratulations to all elected members!! > > Thank you to all who voted for me! > > Best Regards > > Rodrigo Padula > Brazilian Fedora Project > http://www.projetofedora.org > > > Thomas Chung escreveu: > | FAMSCo 2007 Election Result is _IN_! > | > | 69 people voted > | vote | fedora account | full name > | ----------------------------------- > | 41 | rodrigop | Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > | 34 | mrtomtes | Thomas Canniot > | 32 | fugolini | Francesco Ugolini > | 31 | fab | Fabian Affolter > | 24 | jeffreyt | Jeffrey Tadlock > | 22 | andreasr | Andreas Rau > | 22 | jmbabich | John Babich > | +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > | 17 | pbarrera | Pablo Bernab? Barrera > | 16 | red | Sandro Mathys > | 14 | mukuld | Mukul Dharwadkar > | 11 | amoncada | Alejandro Moncada > | > | Congratulations to Rodrigo, Thomas, Francesco, Fabian, Jeffrey, > | Andreas and John! > | Also I would like to thank Toshio for providing Fedora Voting System. > | Regards, > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFHhOolPg3HAC1vlg4RAjxsAJ9M9a3FssGn8ULy6iI0nsxhkCkimQCgvwdl > Erj5K7uYBCZqF7B1U+Q69O4= > =Anoj > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Regards Subhodip Biswas GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas From nayyares at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 13:29:47 2008 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 15:29:47 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCo 2007 Election Result In-Reply-To: <539333cb0801090525h96ce850j2126206a099a8d4b@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0801090008u8fca85oaf94eda975b2d409@mail.gmail.com> <4784EA26.6080406@projetofedora.org> <539333cb0801090525h96ce850j2126206a099a8d4b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30801090529k3ea636abl6ec19ddb0880ffe0@mail.gmail.com> Congratulations....! Cheers On Jan 9, 2008 3:25 PM, subhodip biswas wrote: > Hearty congrats to all new elected members of FAmSCo. > > On Jan 9, 2008 9:07 PM, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Congratulations to all elected members!! > > > > Thank you to all who voted for me! > > > > Best Regards > > > > Rodrigo Padula > > Brazilian Fedora Project > > http://www.projetofedora.org > > > > > > Thomas Chung escreveu: > > | FAMSCo 2007 Election Result is _IN_! > > | > > | 69 people voted > > | vote | fedora account | full name > > | ----------------------------------- > > | 41 | rodrigop | Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > > | 34 | mrtomtes | Thomas Canniot > > | 32 | fugolini | Francesco Ugolini > > | 31 | fab | Fabian Affolter > > | 24 | jeffreyt | Jeffrey Tadlock > > | 22 | andreasr | Andreas Rau > > | 22 | jmbabich | John Babich > > | +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > | 17 | pbarrera | Pablo Bernab? Barrera > > | 16 | red | Sandro Mathys > > | 14 | mukuld | Mukul Dharwadkar > > | 11 | amoncada | Alejandro Moncada > > | > > | Congratulations to Rodrigo, Thomas, Francesco, Fabian, Jeffrey, > > | Andreas and John! > > | Also I would like to thank Toshio for providing Fedora Voting System. > > | Regards, > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQFHhOolPg3HAC1vlg4RAjxsAJ9M9a3FssGn8ULy6iI0nsxhkCkimQCgvwdl > > Erj5K7uYBCZqF7B1U+Q69O4= > > =Anoj > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > Regards > Subhodip Biswas > > GPG key : FAEA34AB > Server : pgp.mit.edu > http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com > http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Barrera > 16 | red | Sandro Mathys > 14 | mukuld | Mukul Dharwadkar > 11 | amoncada | Alejandro Moncada > > Congratulations to Rodrigo, Thomas, Francesco, Fabian, Jeffrey, > Andreas and John! > Also I would like to thank Toshio for providing Fedora Voting System. > Regards, > -- > Thomas Chung > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Regards mak --------------------------------------------------------------- Our free software Runs your company -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amoncada at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 9 15:29:02 2008 From: amoncada at fedoraproject.org (Alejandro Moncada) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:29:02 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCo 2007 Election Result In-Reply-To: References: <369bce3b0801090008u8fca85oaf94eda975b2d409@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Congratulations to new members of FAMSCO 2008/1/9, mak : > > Congrats to all. > > On 09/01/2008, Thomas Chung wrote: > > > > FAMSCo 2007 Election Result is _IN_! > > > > 69 people voted > > vote | fedora account | full name > > ----------------------------------- > > 41 | rodrigop | Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > > 34 | mrtomtes | Thomas Canniot > > 32 | fugolini | Francesco Ugolini > > 31 | fab | Fabian Affolter > > 24 | jeffreyt | Jeffrey Tadlock > > 22 | andreasr | Andreas Rau > > 22 | jmbabich | John Babich > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > 17 | pbarrera | Pablo Bernab? Barrera > > 16 | red | Sandro Mathys > > 14 | mukuld | Mukul Dharwadkar > > 11 | amoncada | Alejandro Moncada > > > > Congratulations to Rodrigo, Thomas, Francesco, Fabian, Jeffrey, > > Andreas and John! > > Also I would like to thank Toshio for providing Fedora Voting System. > > Regards, > > -- > > Thomas Chung > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > Regards > mak > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Our free software > Runs your company > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Alejandro Moncada Pastran Fedora Project B683 F71D F8E4 08FC 6894 41E1 BBA7 2180 8762 2784 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 9 15:31:34 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 16:31:34 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCo 2007 Election Result In-Reply-To: References: <369bce3b0801090008u8fca85oaf94eda975b2d409@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you for your vote and congratulation with the other elected members and thank to all people who nominate themselves. Best regards Francesco 2008/1/9, mak : > > Congrats to all. > > On 09/01/2008, Thomas Chung wrote: > > > > FAMSCo 2007 Election Result is _IN_! > > > > 69 people voted > > vote | fedora account | full name > > ----------------------------------- > > 41 | rodrigop | Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > > 34 | mrtomtes | Thomas Canniot > > 32 | fugolini | Francesco Ugolini > > 31 | fab | Fabian Affolter > > 24 | jeffreyt | Jeffrey Tadlock > > 22 | andreasr | Andreas Rau > > 22 | jmbabich | John Babich > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > 17 | pbarrera | Pablo Bernab? Barrera > > 16 | red | Sandro Mathys > > 14 | mukuld | Mukul Dharwadkar > > 11 | amoncada | Alejandro Moncada > > > > Congratulations to Rodrigo, Thomas, Francesco, Fabian, Jeffrey, > > Andreas and John! > > Also I would like to thank Toshio for providing Fedora Voting System. > > Regards, > > -- > > Thomas Chung > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > Regards > mak > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Our free software > Runs your company > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fcrippa at byte-code.com Wed Jan 9 16:59:31 2008 From: fcrippa at byte-code.com (Francesco Crippa) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 17:59:31 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Linkedin Fedora Group In-Reply-To: <468139722.9971199896700964.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <1972200201.10021199897971809.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Dear *, Fedora group on Linkedin is ready :-) If you have a linkedin account, you can join group following this link: http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/49737/66110D372636 There's a page on the wiki to keep track of fedora groups on every social networks we know: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/SocialNetwoks For the moment list is very short, but I think everyone can add some particular services (network is big, and fedora people crowd fast! Fedora groups is everywhere :-) For the moment there isn't any particular system to grant membership to new users. I'd like to share group administration with someone... Soon a more convenient method to authorize membership. See you soon Bye bye francecsco -- -------------------------------------------- Francesco Crippa http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa From mrtom at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 9 17:05:23 2008 From: mrtom at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 18:05:23 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCo 2007 Election Result In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0801090008u8fca85oaf94eda975b2d409@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0801090008u8fca85oaf94eda975b2d409@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080109180523.35a36553@annifrid.mrtomlinux> Le Wed, 9 Jan 2008 00:08:56 -0800, "Thomas Chung" a ?crit : Thanks everyone :) > FAMSCo 2007 Election Result is _IN_! > > 69 people voted > vote | fedora account | full name > ----------------------------------- > 41 | rodrigop | Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > 34 | mrtomtes | Thomas Canniot > 32 | fugolini | Francesco Ugolini > 31 | fab | Fabian Affolter > 24 | jeffreyt | Jeffrey Tadlock > 22 | andreasr | Andreas Rau > 22 | jmbabich | John Babich > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > 17 | pbarrera | Pablo Bernab? Barrera > 16 | red | Sandro Mathys > 14 | mukuld | Mukul Dharwadkar > 11 | amoncada | Alejandro Moncada > > Congratulations to Rodrigo, Thomas, Francesco, Fabian, Jeffrey, > Andreas and John! > Also I would like to thank Toshio for providing Fedora Voting System. > Regards, -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pcalarco at nd.edu Wed Jan 9 17:06:08 2008 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Vincent Calarco) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 12:06:08 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linkedin Fedora Group In-Reply-To: <1972200201.10021199897971809.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <1972200201.10021199897971809.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <4784FF00.2040903@nd.edu> Hi Francesco -- Great work! I would be happy to help administer if you need some one. I am currently on LinkedIn as well. Best regards, - pascal ------------------------------------- Pascal V. Calarco, MLIS Head, Library Systems University Libraries of Notre Dame/ Michiana Academic Library Consortium Notre Dame, IN USA 46556-5629 http://www.library.nd.edu/ tel.: 574-631-3409 fax: 574-631-6772 -------------------------------------- Francesco Crippa wrote: > Dear *, > > Fedora group on Linkedin is ready :-) > > If you have a linkedin account, you can join group following this link: > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/49737/66110D372636 > > There's a page on the wiki to keep track of fedora groups on every social networks we know: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/SocialNetwoks > > For the moment list is very short, but I think everyone can add some particular services (network is big, and fedora people crowd fast! Fedora groups is everywhere :-) > > For the moment there isn't any particular system to grant membership to new users. I'd like to share group administration with someone... Soon a more convenient method to authorize membership. > > See you soon > Bye bye > > francecsco > > > -- From jonstanley at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 17:14:02 2008 From: jonstanley at gmail.com (Jon Stanley) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 12:14:02 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linkedin Fedora Group In-Reply-To: <4784FF00.2040903@nd.edu> References: <1972200201.10021199897971809.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <4784FF00.2040903@nd.edu> Message-ID: I can help as well On Jan 9, 2008 12:06 PM, Pascal Vincent Calarco wrote: > Hi Francesco -- > > Great work! I would be happy to help administer if you need some one. > I am currently on LinkedIn as well. > > Best regards, > > - pascal > > ------------------------------------- > Pascal V. Calarco, MLIS > Head, Library Systems > University Libraries of Notre Dame/ > Michiana Academic Library Consortium > Notre Dame, IN USA 46556-5629 > http://www.library.nd.edu/ > tel.: 574-631-3409 fax: 574-631-6772 > -------------------------------------- > > > Francesco Crippa wrote: > > Dear *, > > > > Fedora group on Linkedin is ready :-) > > > > If you have a linkedin account, you can join group following this link: > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/49737/66110D372636 > > > > There's a page on the wiki to keep track of fedora groups on every social networks we know: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/SocialNetwoks > > > > For the moment list is very short, but I think everyone can add some particular services (network is big, and fedora people crowd fast! Fedora groups is everywhere :-) > > > > For the moment there isn't any particular system to grant membership to new users. I'd like to share group administration with someone... Soon a more convenient method to authorize membership. > > > > See you soon > > Bye bye > > > > francecsco > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Jon Stanley Fedora Ambassador jstanley at fedoraproject.org From rogepix at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 18:43:29 2008 From: rogepix at gmail.com (giuseppe pignataro) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:43:29 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCo 2007 Election Result In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0801090008u8fca85oaf94eda975b2d409@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0801090008u8fca85oaf94eda975b2d409@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <34680d50801091043n5f128d82od45a3a60cf28fd1d@mail.gmail.com> Congratulations at all....! -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GiuseppePignataro From amrossi at linux.it Wed Jan 9 19:14:34 2008 From: amrossi at linux.it (Andrea Modesto Rossi) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:14:34 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linkedin Fedora Group In-Reply-To: <1972200201.10021199897971809.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <1972200201.10021199897971809.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <47851D1A.9030508@linux.it> Good work ;-) From amrossi at linux.it Wed Jan 9 19:17:15 2008 From: amrossi at linux.it (Andrea Modesto Rossi) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:17:15 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCo 2007 Election Result In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0801090008u8fca85oaf94eda975b2d409@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0801090008u8fca85oaf94eda975b2d409@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47851DBB.400@linux.it> Congratulations and Good luck ! From jmbabich at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 21:09:00 2008 From: jmbabich at gmail.com (John Babich) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 16:09:00 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCo 2007 Election Result In-Reply-To: <47851DBB.400@linux.it> References: <369bce3b0801090008u8fca85oaf94eda975b2d409@mail.gmail.com> <47851DBB.400@linux.it> Message-ID: <9d2c731f0801091309q78301b1awc004f5708b5960da@mail.gmail.com> On Jan 9, 2008 2:17 PM, Andrea Modesto Rossi wrote: > Congratulations and Good luck ! > Congratulations to the winners and thanks for the vote of confidence. Best Regards, John Babich Fedora Ambassador From bhanupat at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 10 05:58:18 2008 From: bhanupat at fedoraproject.org (Bhanu Patial) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:28:18 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCo 2007 Election Result In-Reply-To: <4784EA26.6080406@projetofedora.org> References: <369bce3b0801090008u8fca85oaf94eda975b2d409@mail.gmail.com> <4784EA26.6080406@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: Congrats to all the members Bhanu Patial FA India bhanupat at fedoraproject.org > > Congratulations to all elected members!! > > Thank you to all who voted for me! > > Best Regards > > Rodrigo Padula > Brazilian Fedora Project > http://www.projetofedora.org > > > Thomas Chung escreveu: > | FAMSCo 2007 Election Result is _IN_! > | > | 69 people voted > | vote | fedora account | full name > | ----------------------------------- > | 41 | rodrigop | Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > | 34 | mrtomtes | Thomas Canniot > | 32 | fugolini | Francesco Ugolini > | 31 | fab | Fabian Affolter > | 24 | jeffreyt | Jeffrey Tadlock > | 22 | andreasr | Andreas Rau > | 22 | jmbabich | John Babich > | +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > | 17 | pbarrera | Pablo Bernab? Barrera > | 16 | red | Sandro Mathys > | 14 | mukuld | Mukul Dharwadkar > | 11 | amoncada | Alejandro Moncada > | > | Congratulations to Rodrigo, Thomas, Francesco, Fabian, Jeffrey, > | Andreas and John! > | Also I would like to thank Toshio for providing Fedora Voting System. > | Regards, > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFHhOolPg3HAC1vlg4RAjxsAJ9M9a3FssGn8ULy6iI0nsxhkCkimQCgvwdl > Erj5K7uYBCZqF7B1U+Q69O4= > =Anoj > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Claus Reheis From makghosh at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 12:24:56 2008 From: makghosh at gmail.com (Arindam Ghosh) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:54:56 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCo 2007 Election Result In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0801090008u8fca85oaf94eda975b2d409@mail.gmail.com> References: <369bce3b0801090008u8fca85oaf94eda975b2d409@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8990327d0801100424w5b476504xb4ea2d31c1869f7c@mail.gmail.com> Congrats to our new FAMSCo team :) -- Arindam Ghosh [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ArindamGhosh] GPG Key: 0EE58920 Key Server: http://pgp.mit.edu From satyajit at nerdshack.com Thu Jan 10 17:55:21 2008 From: satyajit at nerdshack.com (Satyajit Ranjeev) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:25:21 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Congratulations Message-ID: <1199987721.4004.0.camel@ibm.oakgrove.hom> hi, Congratulations all , all the best. satyajit -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There are some others, three of the cheapest ;-) http://www.hostelworld.com/hosteldetails.php/2GO4QualityHostel-Brussels-14418 http://www.hostelworld.com/hosteldetails.php/SleepWell-Brussels-621 http://www.hostelworld.com/hosteldetails.php/YouthHostelVanGoghChab-Brussels-8699 Who is willing to sleep as a group at Brussels? And willing to organize it? I will arrive at Saturday Morning and so I not the right person to do that because I will need only a bed for one night. Kind regards, Fabian From rau_a at web.de Thu Jan 10 20:44:12 2008 From: rau_a at web.de (Andreas Rau) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:44:12 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMSCo 2007 Election Result Message-ID: <1199997852.3165.58.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> Hallo ALL Ambassadors, first of all I want to thanks for this proof of trust :) You made me a member of Famsco I will do my best to get this mission done as you expect. BUT, please provide Famsco with your minds, ideas and needs, cause we need this input to make things better, thanks. At the moment I am on the train from Basel (Swissland) back to Karlsruhe (Germany) where I am living. Due to that I ve no network at the moment, but usually I am available by the following IMC's in case you have questions, you want to talk or ... Yahoo: bop80medic Skype: macwarth ICQ: 135230467 MSN: Andreas.Rau at infor.de (MSN-Account is enabled but the mailing is not active. outdated Mailaccount) Feel free to contact me Additionally I will send my office-signature, too - (this makes sense for me, because I am more often at the office as at home) That's all for now- let's have a good time Cheers, Andi Rau -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Rau andreas.rau at unibas.ch Universitaetsrechenzentrum Tel: (+41) (0) 61 267 22 77 Universitaet Basel Fax: (+41) (0) 61 267 22 82 Klingelbergstr. 70 CH-4056 Basel Mobile: +41 79 607 94 49 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From robert at fedoraproject.org Sat Jan 12 10:13:27 2008 From: robert at fedoraproject.org (Robert Scheck) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:13:27 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM and LinuxTag vs. Max and Paul (who's where when) Message-ID: <20080112101327.GA1744@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, Max Spevack wrote: > I am very pleased to announce that Paul Frields has accepted a job with Red > Hat, and he will be taking over as Fedora Project Leader in February. Uhm...does that mean that you won't come to LinuxTag 2008 in Berlin/Germany as well if you're no longer THE Fedora Project Leader? Or is your budget at Red Hat still filled enough for such a tiny and important trip? And which of you two (Max and Paul) will show up on FOSDEM? Paul, will you be able to get Berlin for the LinuxTag? I'm asking this, because during the Fedora Ambassadors Day EMEA 2007 we decided, that the LinuxTag 2008 is the most important event for EMEA and Max simply has to show up there (as we did not know at that point of this personnel change). Max, thank you very much for your past efforts and your work for Fedora - I think, you did a great job and it's a pitty for me that you will be likely not with us in May in Berlin. If possible, it surely is nice to see the old and the new Fedora Project Leader there. And Paul, you're accepting a very hard inheritance, nevertheless my congratulation and best wishes for you. 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Paul and I need to have a discussion (and Paul needs to think about his own schedule) and figure out his travel plans. LinuxTag is not until May or June, and I think Paul should definitely plan to go to that -- it was an excellent show last year, and the opportunity to connect with the Ambassadors in Europe is 100% worth the cost of the trip. As for FOSDEM, that is much sooner, so I should just leave that to Paul to address. There is travel money in my budget for the FPL to make 2 trips overseas per year for Fedora-related activities. I spent a little bit too much money at LinuxTag last year (as you recall, Fedora took care of the bill for the hostel for all the Ambassadors), so the total budget is a little bit less this year, but it is enough for two trips. Until we get Paul officially into Red Hat and in control of his own funds, I will spend that money on his behalf and with his input. (2) The FAMSCO elections, FAMSCO chair, and Jack. I have received a few private emails asking me how Jack's new role impacts Ambassadors and FAMSCO. The elections that you just finished for FAMSCO as well as the voting/decision that FAMSCO made on who the Chair should be is a result that should not, and will not be changed. Over the past years, there has always been someone within Red Hat who has been the "go to person" for the Ambassadors group in terms of getting budget, swag, organizational help, etc. For a while it was Greg. Alex Maier has helped with that over time. During my time as Fedora Project Leader, I did most of this. Now we want Jack to be that person. So FAMSCO should continue to operate. Jack and FAMSCO should work together on a variety of things: * increasing the size of the Ambassadors project * encouraging and promoting leadership throughout the world * continuing to help in North America, Europe, and Brazil, where we have particularly strong ambassadors communitites * Identifying problems with Ambassadors and being a leader and advisor in resolving them. In summary: the community leadership that is in place is exactly what we want, and it must continue to thrive. Jack's job is to be your FIRST point of contact in Red Hat when you need something. Paul, myself, Greg, the names you already know -- we will also continue to support and help you. (3) For the marketing guys, the same general theme that is expressed above is true for the non-Ambassador marketing parts of Fedora. We want Jack to be a facilitator, a liason between the community and Red Hat, and to work alongside the community leaders to make Fedora marketing more efficient, more on-message, etc. I expect Jack to attend Marketing and Ambassadors meetings, and the Fedora Board should ask Jack for frequent updates on these two critical parts of the Fedora Project. Any questions -- feel free to email. Let's try to have the discussion on-list. Regards, Max From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Jan 14 02:44:48 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:44:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: ambassadors, marketing, etc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 13 Jan 2008, Max Spevack wrote: > * continuing to help in North America, Europe, and Brazil, where we have > particularly strong ambassadors communitites This is not meant to suggest that these are the only areas that we care about. It was meant to acknowledge that these areas are quite strong, and that we want to build on that strength. However, it is also critical that we grow the Ambassadors project in other countries where there are motivated Ambassadors. We need your help -- let us know where you are, what events you are participating in, and the kind of support that you need. We will work to give it to you. --Max From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 04:30:28 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:00:28 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: ambassadors, marketing, etc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <478AE564.3070009@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Max Spevack wrote: | On Sun, 13 Jan 2008, Max Spevack wrote: | |> * continuing to help in North America, Europe, and Brazil, where we |> have particularly strong ambassadors communitites | | This is not meant to suggest that these are the only areas that we care | about. It was meant to acknowledge that these areas are quite strong, | and that we want to build on that strength. Was there a reason for this clarification ? The first time I read the statement in isolation, the implied explanation in the clarification did not strike me. Reading this mail it does appear to be curious. ~sankarshan - -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHiuVkXQZpNTcrCzMRAq02AJ9PdUaT9AGCvEO1wVKF74+cnUxAHACgzE8J lsU5tNzPo/gmW0XZ+HcYFks= =x7eW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jdieter at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 05:20:07 2008 From: jdieter at gmail.com (Jonathan Dieter) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:20:07 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Lebanon Ambassadors Message-ID: <1200288007.14727.1.camel@jndwidescreen.lesbg.loc> If it's at all possible, I'd like to organize a get-together for the Lebanon Ambassadors so we can determine what we can do to push Fedora forward in Lebanon. If you're a Lebanon Ambassador, please send me a private e-mail. 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I'm not in Lebanon :-(; otherwise I would attend Am Montag, den 14.01.2008, 07:20 +0200 schrieb Jonathan Dieter: > If it's at all possible, I'd like to organize a get-together for the > Lebanon Ambassadors so we can determine what we can do to push Fedora > forward in Lebanon. If you're a Lebanon Ambassador, please send me a > private e-mail. > > Jonathan > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Gerold Kassube -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Jan 10, 2008 1:24 PM, Arindam Ghosh wrote: > Congrats to our new FAMSCo team :) > > -- > Arindam Ghosh > [http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ArindamGhosh] > > GPG Key: 0EE58920 > Key Server: http://pgp.mit.edu > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Zied Fakhfakh Dot TN - CTO Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis Tunisia T : +216 71 886112 F : +216 71 885499 M : +216 22 535604 W : http://www.dottn.com GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C From invites at radiusim.com Mon Jan 14 15:33:40 2008 From: invites at radiusim.com (Mario Gamboa) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:33:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Mario Gamboa has invited you to radiusIM.com Message-ID: <232459767.290984.1200324820839.JavaMail.web@smtp2.radiusim.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From subhodip at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 14 15:42:57 2008 From: subhodip at fedoraproject.org (subhodip biswas) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:12:57 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Mario Gamboa has invited you to radiusIM.com In-Reply-To: <232459767.290984.1200324820839.JavaMail.web@smtp2.radiusim.com> References: <232459767.290984.1200324820839.JavaMail.web@smtp2.radiusim.com> Message-ID: <539333cb0801140742r6bd5da03p8cacc1057e3e2228@mail.gmail.com> WTH is this ??? 2008/1/14 Mario Gamboa : > > ________________________________ > > > > > Mario Gamboa has invited you to check out radiusIM.com. It's a new location > based IM service that lets you see where your friends are and who else is > around. It also works with MSN, AIM/AOL/ICQ, Yahoo, and Google Talk. > > Sign up now to be friends with Mario Gamboa. > ________________________________ > > This email was sent by someone you know on radiusIM.com. If you do not wish > to receive any future friend invites to radiusIM.com click here. Radius IM > LLC's offices are located at 158 Ludlow Street, New York, NY 10002. > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Regards Subhodip Biswas GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas From sudheer.s at binaryvibes.co.in Mon Jan 14 15:48:40 2008 From: sudheer.s at binaryvibes.co.in (Sudheer) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:18:40 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Mario Gamboa has invited you to radiusIM.com In-Reply-To: <539333cb0801140742r6bd5da03p8cacc1057e3e2228@mail.gmail.com> References: <232459767.290984.1200324820839.JavaMail.web@smtp2.radiusim.com> <539333cb0801140742r6bd5da03p8cacc1057e3e2228@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <478B8458.9010204@binaryvibes.co.in> subhodip biswas wrote: > WTH is this ??? > > I thought it was an accident. > 2008/1/14 Mario Gamboa : > >> ________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> Mario Gamboa has invited you to check out radiusIM.com. It's a new location >> based IM service that lets you see where your friends are and who else is >> around. It also works with MSN, AIM/AOL/ICQ, Yahoo, and Google Talk. >> >> Sign up now to be friends with Mario Gamboa. >> ________________________________ >> >> This email was sent by someone you know on radiusIM.com. If you do not wish >> to receive any future friend invites to radiusIM.com click here. Radius IM >> LLC's offices are located at 158 Ludlow Street, New York, NY 10002. >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> > > > > From matthiaskranz at gmx.de Mon Jan 14 15:52:04 2008 From: matthiaskranz at gmx.de (Matthias Kranz) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:52:04 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Mario Gamboa has invited you to radiusIM.com In-Reply-To: <539333cb0801140742r6bd5da03p8cacc1057e3e2228@mail.gmail.com> References: <232459767.290984.1200324820839.JavaMail.web@smtp2.radiusim.com> <539333cb0801140742r6bd5da03p8cacc1057e3e2228@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1200325924.4474.3.camel@dhcp-0-189.muc.redhat.com> On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 21:12 +0530, subhodip biswas wrote: > WTH is this ??? You can either call it Spam. Or you compare it to campaigning for LinkedIn.com or Xing or ... Cheers, Matthias -- Matthias Kranz http://mkr.oerks.de From robert at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 14 19:26:47 2008 From: robert at fedoraproject.org (Robert Scheck) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:26:47 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: ambassadors, marketing, etc In-Reply-To: <1200277518.25286.134.camel@deepfort> References: <28763.203.63.126.189.1200268857.squirrel@www.mwiriadi.id.au> <1200277518.25286.134.camel@deepfort> Message-ID: <20080114192647.GA27697@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > so my first question would be to ask this, how many people currently > subscribe to both this and ambassadors-list? If people feel like it is > a significant enough number, maybe we should consider merging the two, > although, technically, the purposes are very different. Although that > may be true, if we have a significant number of dual memberships, having > two sources from which to get information and post information to might > be a little excessive, > > What do you guys think? Sorry for being unpolite now, but why the hell don't you ask the people on the ambassadors list? Maybe I should ask here and now, whether we can merge devel-list with the marketing-list as well? ;-) Please DO NOT MERGE the lists, we need a low-traffic (?) list for all the ambassadors which only belongs to the ambassadors. Marketing is important; yes and blah-foo and all the other arguments, but I mostly don't care about the marketing stuff. I'm only less interested about this and that article of Fedora in newspapers/magazines/websites/... - maybe others are thinking so as well. My 0.1 cent for a possible merge of the lists: -1000 :) Greetings, Robert From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Jan 14 19:39:37 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:39:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: ambassadors, marketing, etc In-Reply-To: <478AE564.3070009@gmail.com> References: <478AE564.3070009@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > Max Spevack wrote: > | On Sun, 13 Jan 2008, Max Spevack wrote: > | > |> * continuing to help in North America, Europe, and Brazil, where we > |> have particularly strong ambassadors communitites > | > | This is not meant to suggest that these are the only areas that we care > | about. It was meant to acknowledge that these areas are quite strong, > | and that we want to build on that strength. > > Was there a reason for this clarification ? The first time I read the > statement in isolation, the implied explanation in the clarification > did not strike me. Reading this mail it does appear to be curious. I just didn't want people to think that we only care about the places I mentioned. We care about everywhere... I was just mentioning a few that have been particularly visible in the past year. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Jan 14 19:43:00 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:43:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAmSCo Chair Election Result In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> it's necessary that Fedora Board confirms the new FAmSCo Chair to >> officialize the result. The Fedora Board has confirmed Francesco's election as the FAMSCO chair. Congrats to Francesco -- we're looking forward to sharing with FAMSCO and all the Ambassadors some of our plans for the coming year, and working with the Ambassadors to make this part of Fedora even stronger. --Max From couf at skynet.be Mon Jan 14 19:48:21 2008 From: couf at skynet.be (Bart Couvreur) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:48:21 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: ambassadors, marketing, etc In-Reply-To: <20080114192647.GA27697@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> References: <28763.203.63.126.189.1200268857.squirrel@www.mwiriadi.id.au> <1200277518.25286.134.camel@deepfort> <20080114192647.GA27697@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> Message-ID: <1200340101.8653.23.camel@versuz> Op maandag 14-01-2008 om 20:26 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Robert Scheck: > On Sun, 13 Jan 2008, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > > so my first question would be to ask this, how many people currently > > subscribe to both this and ambassadors-list? If people feel like it is > > a significant enough number, maybe we should consider merging the two, > > although, technically, the purposes are very different. Although that > > may be true, if we have a significant number of dual memberships, having > > two sources from which to get information and post information to might > > be a little excessive, > > > > What do you guys think? > > Sorry for being unpolite now, but why the hell don't you ask the people on > the ambassadors list? Maybe I should ask here and now, whether we can merge > devel-list with the marketing-list as well? ;-) Probably because we are expected to be on the marketing-list too :-) > > Please DO NOT MERGE the lists, we need a low-traffic (?) list for all the > ambassadors which only belongs to the ambassadors. Marketing is important; > yes and blah-foo and all the other arguments, but I mostly don't care about > the marketing stuff. I'm only less interested about this and that article > of Fedora in newspapers/magazines/websites/... - maybe others are thinking > so as well. Partly true. I do agree that all the "Fedora in the news" isn't really that interesting, maybe this should be moved off to the news-list. I do get the basic idea behind it, and in a sense it's good: put all guys promoting Fedora on the same page and being sure that we bring the same message. If you think about it: we *are* as Ambassadors also doing marketing for Fedora. Just more in a face-to-face fashion, compared to press releases, interviews with the devels. Some people don't want to be Ambassadors but are doing a kick-ass job on marketing, and we as Ambassadors do that too, but we're both with the same goal: promoting Fedora > > My 0.1 cent for a possible merge of the lists: -1000 :) So I'd be okay with the merge *if* some stuff gets sorted out. +1 last year, stays +1 this year. Bart Small BTW: last years vote was slightly positive in the favor of merging, so it's not bad to re-evaluate what was said back then. -- Bart key fingerprint: 6AAB 544D 3432 D013 776D 3602 ADB6 6B2A D93F 0F93 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dit berichtdeel is digitaal ondertekend URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 14 19:49:27 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:49:27 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAmSCo Chair Election Result In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you, i'm really honorated. I will write tomorrow a presentation mail. Moreover during the past FAmSCo meeting people agreed all together to nominate Fabian ad Vice Chair. According to the election rules and to people choice i want to make the congratulations with Fabian. 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Regards Francesco Ugolini 2008/1/14, Gerold Kassube : > > Hi and Dear *, > > since we have to plan and move forward with the attending the FOSDEM2008 > in Bruxelles and our "on-site-contact" is not able to support us "not > belgium Ambassadors" we have to look what we need to do ... > > Personally I like to stay here: > http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/brubr-renaissance-brussels-hotel/ > If you will also participate the stay there try to book over www.hrs.de > The prices are imho moderate with > EUR 79,- / night for a single room and > EUR 99,- / night for a twin room > > Decide whatever you want and if you want let me know; here by the ML > and/or off ML (E-mail is known) > > > > -- > Regards > > Gerold Kassube > Fedora Ambassador > > Deutschland / Germany > Schweiz / Switzerland > Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org > > 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So it's a little bit expensive for me Regards Francesco Someone is thinking to take a room in a Bed&Brekfast? 2008/1/14, Thomas Canniot : > > Le Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:26:08 +0100, > Gerold Kassube a ?crit : > > > Hi and Dear *, > > > > since we have to plan and move forward with the attending the > > FOSDEM2008 in Bruxelles and our "on-site-contact" is not able to > > support us "not belgium Ambassadors" we have to look what we need to > > do ... > > > > Personally I like to stay here: > > http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/brubr-renaissance-brussels-hotel/ > > If you will also participate the stay there try to book over > > www.hrs.de The prices are imho moderate with > > EUR 79,- / night for a single room and > > EUR 99,- / night for a twin room > > > > Decide whatever you want and if you want let me know; here by the ML > > and/or off ML (E-mail is known) > > I won't take this one... French are poor people you know, I'll have a > cheaper hotel, don't worry and thanks for the proposal. > > Thomas > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clints at utos.org Mon Jan 14 20:55:43 2008 From: clints at utos.org (Clint Savage) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:55:43 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] FedoraFamily Message-ID: <478BCC4F.2070806@utos.org> Per a discussion with a couple people in #fudcon today, I am sending out an email regarding a discussion that was held at FUDCon this weekend. One of the first sessions I attended was the "Getting your parents to use Fedora" session, which discussed techniques and ideas for helping your family members and friends successfully install and run Fedora. We had quite a lively discussion and a few good ideas were brought up from this discussion. 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I've been too busy with exams to look at it and thought Frederic would handle it. That said, I shouldn't have let it be, so excuse me once again. As such I'm looking for your accommodation now and will let you know more at last tomorrow evening. Again apologies to all, this shouldn't happen anymore Bart -- Bart key fingerprint: 6AAB 544D 3432 D013 776D 3602 ADB6 6B2A D93F 0F93 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers Gerold Am Montag, den 14.01.2008, 21:03 +0000 schrieb Bart Couvreur: > Op maandag 14-01-2008 om 21:26 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Gerold > Kassube: > > Hi and Dear *, > > > > since we have to plan and move forward with the attending the FOSDEM2008 > > in Bruxelles and our "on-site-contact" is not able to support us "not > > belgium Ambassadors" we have to look what we need to do ... > > > > Personally I like to stay here: > > http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/brubr-renaissance-brussels-hotel/ > > If you will also participate the stay there try to book over www.hrs.de > > The prices are imho moderate with > > EUR 79,- / night for a single room and > > EUR 99,- / night for a twin room > > > > Decide whatever you want and if you want let me know; here by the ML > > and/or off ML (E-mail is known) > > Hi all, > > First of all my apologies to all who have been waiting for news on > accommodation for Fosdem. 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Maybe I should ask here and now, whether we can merge > > devel-list with the marketing-list as well? ;-) > > Probably because we are expected to be on the marketing-list too :-) Perhaps it would be a good idea for one of the list admins (Max? Thomas?) to do a quick diff of the membership lists of these two lists and see if there is as much of an intersection as we're assuming. If it turns out that f-a-l membership is primarily just a subset of f-m-l membership, then the question is really just whether the ambassadors want to continue to have a separate list or not. And conversely, if the intersection is smaller than we're assuming, then that might imply that a merger is unwarranted. Being on both lists myself, and recognizing the close interaction of the work of both groups, and thus the extremely heavy cross-posting between the two lists, I myself would be happy for a merger, just to cut down the number of duplicate messages in my inbox. But, y'know, I can deal either way. :) cheers, - Paul -- Paul Stauffer Manager of Research Computing Computer Science Department Boston University From tchung at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 14 21:31:37 2008 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:31:37 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Mario Gamboa has invited you to radiusIM.com In-Reply-To: <232459767.290984.1200324820839.JavaMail.web@smtp2.radiusim.com> References: <232459767.290984.1200324820839.JavaMail.web@smtp2.radiusim.com> Message-ID: <369bce3b0801141331u5b61c929v3b2e2c4692c5eee5@mail.gmail.com> "mario.gamboa at gmail.com" has been removed from fedora-ambassadors-list due to a violation of Code of Conduct. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Conduct Regards, On 14/01/2008, Mario Gamboa wrote: > > ________________________________ > > > > Mario Gamboa has invited you to check out radiusIM.com. It's a new location based IM service that lets you see where your friends are and who else is around. It also works with MSN, AIM/AOL/ICQ, Yahoo, and Google Talk. > > Sign up now to be friends with Mario Gamboa. ________________________________ > This email was sent by someone you know on radiusIM.com. If you do not wish to receive any future friend invites to radiusIM.com click here. Radius IM LLC's offices are located at 158 Ludlow Street, New York, NY 10002. > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From tchung at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 14 21:42:53 2008 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:42:53 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: ambassadors, marketing, etc In-Reply-To: <20080114212151.GI1700@jadzia.bu.edu> References: <28763.203.63.126.189.1200268857.squirrel@www.mwiriadi.id.au> <1200277518.25286.134.camel@deepfort> <20080114192647.GA27697@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> <1200340101.8653.23.camel@versuz> <20080114212151.GI1700@jadzia.bu.edu> Message-ID: <369bce3b0801141342q6df959cfx563aa9c7666b1c53@mail.gmail.com> On 14/01/2008, Paul Stauffer wrote: > Perhaps it would be a good idea for one of the list admins (Max? Thomas?) to > do a quick diff of the membership lists of these two lists and see if there > is as much of an intersection as we're assuming. If it turns out that f-a-l > membership is primarily just a subset of f-m-l membership, then the question > is really just whether the ambassadors want to continue to have a separate > list or not. And conversely, if the intersection is smaller than we're > assuming, then that might imply that a merger is unwarranted. > > Being on both lists myself, and recognizing the close interaction of the > work of both groups, and thus the extremely heavy cross-posting between the > two lists, I myself would be happy for a merger, just to cut down the number > of duplicate messages in my inbox. But, y'know, I can deal either way. :) Back in March, Karsten Wade touched on this issue[1] already what's considered OffTopic[2]. [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2007-March/msg00011.html [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PostIsOffTopic#fedora-ambassadors-list Basically, fedora-ambassadors-list is for discussions amongst Ambassadors about event coordination and other tactical or project business needs. Other discussions should take place in fedora-marketing-list. Regards, -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From pcalarco at nd.edu Mon Jan 14 21:57:44 2008 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Vincent Calarco) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:57:44 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] What size of event in Fedora Events? Message-ID: <478BDAD8.3060007@nd.edu> Hi all -- Newbie ambassador here with a quick question. It appears that the majority of events that have been listed in the Fedora Events by ambassadors are fairly large ones. I'll be attending a BarCamp next month and will suggest leading a discussion on Fedora, if there is interest, but I am not sure whether to list this on Fedora events. Any thoughts regarding this would be appreciated! Best, pascal ------------------------------------- Pascal V. Calarco, MLIS Head, Library Systems University Libraries of Notre Dame/ Michiana Academic Library Consortium Notre Dame, IN USA 46556-5629 http://www.library.nd.edu/ tel.: 574-631-3409 fax: 574-631-6772 -------------------------------------- From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 14 22:00:50 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:00:50 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] What size of event in Fedora Events? In-Reply-To: <478BDAD8.3060007@nd.edu> References: <478BDAD8.3060007@nd.edu> Message-ID: <200801142300.56521.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Montag, 14. Januar 2008 22:57:44 schrieb Pascal Vincent Calarco: > Newbie ambassador here with a quick question > It appears that the majority of events that have been listed in the > Fedora Events by ambassadors are fairly large ones. I'll be attending a > BarCamp next month and will suggest leading a discussion on Fedora, if > there is interest, but I am not sure whether to list this on Fedora events. do it! Transparency is everything. I look forward for every Event-Report because we can learn so much from each other! Cheers Joerg -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. 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Thomas, thank you :) And as long as ambassadors are something else than marketing, please move that merging crap to /dev/null - otherwise, I'll change my .procmail rules to move the merged list mails then to /dev/null forever...sorry. Discussions about events don't have to be on marketing as well as press stuff, obvious news links and articles have not to end on ambassadors. And everybody who doesn't get this huge difference should re-think that before answering, please. Greetings, Robert From pcalarco at nd.edu Mon Jan 14 22:09:39 2008 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Vincent Calarco) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:09:39 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] What size of event in Fedora Events? In-Reply-To: <200801142300.56521.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <478BDAD8.3060007@nd.edu> <200801142300.56521.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <478BDDA3.3030401@nd.edu> Done! Thanks for the quick response. - pascal JoergSimon wrote: > Am Montag, 14. Januar 2008 22:57:44 schrieb Pascal Vincent Calarco: > >> Newbie ambassador here with a quick question >> It appears that the majority of events that have been listed in the >> Fedora Events by ambassadors are fairly large ones. I'll be attending a >> BarCamp next month and will suggest leading a discussion on Fedora, if >> there is interest, but I am not sure whether to list this on Fedora events. >> > > do it! Transparency is everything. > I look forward for every Event-Report because we can learn so much from each > other! > > Cheers Joerg > From rau_a at web.de Mon Jan 14 22:13:10 2008 From: rau_a at web.de (Andreas Rau) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:13:10 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: ambassadors, marketing, etc In-Reply-To: <369bce3b0801141342q6df959cfx563aa9c7666b1c53@mail.gmail.com> References: <28763.203.63.126.189.1200268857.squirrel@www.mwiriadi.id.au> <1200277518.25286.134.camel@deepfort> <20080114192647.GA27697@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> <1200340101.8653.23.camel@versuz> <20080114212151.GI1700@jadzia.bu.edu> <369bce3b0801141342q6df959cfx563aa9c7666b1c53@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1200348790.3268.25.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> I totally agree with your statement > Basically, fedora-ambassadors-list is for discussions amongst > Ambassadors about event coordination and other tactical or project > business needs. > > Other discussions should take place in fedora-marketing-list. -1 concerning the merge kind regards, Andreas Rau Am Montag, den 14.01.2008, 13:42 -0800 schrieb Thomas Chung: > On 14/01/2008, Paul Stauffer wrote: > > Perhaps it would be a good idea for one of the list admins (Max? Thomas?) to > > do a quick diff of the membership lists of these two lists and see if there > > is as much of an intersection as we're assuming. If it turns out that f-a-l > > membership is primarily just a subset of f-m-l membership, then the question > > is really just whether the ambassadors want to continue to have a separate > > list or not. And conversely, if the intersection is smaller than we're > > assuming, then that might imply that a merger is unwarranted. > > > > Being on both lists myself, and recognizing the close interaction of the > > work of both groups, and thus the extremely heavy cross-posting between the > > two lists, I myself would be happy for a merger, just to cut down the number > > of duplicate messages in my inbox. But, y'know, I can deal either way. :) > > Back in March, Karsten Wade touched on this issue[1] already what's > considered OffTopic[2]. > > [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2007-March/msg00011.html > [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PostIsOffTopic#fedora-ambassadors-list > > Basically, fedora-ambassadors-list is for discussions amongst > Ambassadors about event coordination and other tactical or project > business needs. > > Other discussions should take place in fedora-marketing-list. > Regards, > -- > Thomas Chung > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung > From jonstanley at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 22:20:34 2008 From: jonstanley at gmail.com (Jon Stanley) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:20:34 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: ambassadors, marketing, etc In-Reply-To: <1200348790.3268.25.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> References: <28763.203.63.126.189.1200268857.squirrel@www.mwiriadi.id.au> <1200277518.25286.134.camel@deepfort> <20080114192647.GA27697@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> <1200340101.8653.23.camel@versuz> <20080114212151.GI1700@jadzia.bu.edu> <369bce3b0801141342q6df959cfx563aa9c7666b1c53@mail.gmail.com> <1200348790.3268.25.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> Message-ID: On Jan 14, 2008 5:13 PM, Andreas Rau wrote: > -1 concerning the merge -1 concerning the merge here too, though we should probably have something more formal at some point. From gerold at lugd.org Mon Jan 14 22:41:20 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:41:20 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: ambassadors, marketing, etc In-Reply-To: References: <28763.203.63.126.189.1200268857.squirrel@www.mwiriadi.id.au> <1200277518.25286.134.camel@deepfort> <20080114192647.GA27697@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> <1200340101.8653.23.camel@versuz> <20080114212151.GI1700@jadzia.bu.edu> <369bce3b0801141342q6df959cfx563aa9c7666b1c53@mail.gmail.com> <1200348790.3268.25.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> Message-ID: <1200350480.3564.14.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Am Montag, den 14.01.2008, 17:20 -0500 schrieb Jon Stanley: > On Jan 14, 2008 5:13 PM, Andreas Rau wrote: > > > -1 concerning the merge > > -1 concerning the merge here too, though we should probably have > something more formal at some point. > again and again is this point coming up ... a big -1 also from my point of view; the same as we *decides* last year :-( -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Update your agendas, and don't forget to join us. 2 other reminders will be sent tomorrow and Wednesday mornings, but that's not a good reason to update your agenda now. Fabian From ben at fedoraunity.org Tue Jan 15 00:12:19 2008 From: ben at fedoraunity.org (Ben Williams) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:12:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: ambassadors, marketing, etc In-Reply-To: <1200350480.3564.14.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: <17291503.361200355939081.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> -1 JamesBenWilliams From jdieter at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 05:19:38 2008 From: jdieter at gmail.com (Jonathan Dieter) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:19:38 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Ambassador Meeting this Wednesday ! In-Reply-To: <478BE573.9000303@fedoraproject.org> References: <478BE573.9000303@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1200374378.14727.14.camel@jndwidescreen.lesbg.loc> On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 23:42 +0100, Fabian Affolter wrote: > Ladies and gentlemen ! > > Don't you remember there is an EMEA Ambassador meeting next Wednesday > (Europe, the Middle East, and Africa) on #fedora-meeting ? > > day : Wednesday, January 16th, 2008 > > Time : 20:00 UTC (check > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=16&month=01&year=2008&hour=20&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 > to know your own time depending on your countries) > > Channel : #fedora-meeting Just a request that some future meetings start a bit sooner. We're at UTC+0200 (which means the meeting starts at 22:00 for us which is quite late). Thanks, Jonathan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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As I left my home for the job, they are using my old PIII, 128MB RAM system. They never used any computer before. So, it was easy to tell them where to click for what, my father used to have troubles with different passwords for root and other accounts, so I changed all passwords to same and as no internet not much threat I think. They mostly use that box for listening to music, storing/viewing photos or watching videos. Will put some photos later when I will be back at home. > > We had quite a lively discussion and a few good ideas were brought up from > this discussion. Because of this, I've started a wiki page at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraFamily to help collaborate on this > issue. > > If you were involved in this discussion, or would like to participate, I > would appreciate your help... One point I think is the most important is the system should work out of the box. We should not think of geeky stuffs from our parents. Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.in Indian Fedora mirrors: http://mirror.wbut.ac.in/pub/fedora/linux/ http://fedora.glug-nith.org/linux/ From red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch Tue Jan 15 08:45:28 2008 From: red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch (red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:45:28 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Ambassador Meeting this Wednesday ! In-Reply-To: <1200374378.14727.14.camel@jndwidescreen.lesbg.loc> References: <478BE573.9000303@fedoraproject.org> <1200374378.14727.14.camel@jndwidescreen.lesbg.loc> Message-ID: <868256660.149921200386728943.JavaMail.open-xchange@ox2> Jonathan Dieter hat am 15. Januar 2008 um 06:19 geschrieben: > Just a request that some future meetings start a bit sooner.? We're at > UTC+0200 (which means the meeting starts at 22:00 for us which is quite > late). > > Thanks, > > Jonathan Dear Jonathan Please understand, that there is _no_ perfect time (nor weekday) that fits everyone. EMEA is stretched through many time zones, reaching from UTC+0000 to UTC+0400 (or even farther, as the expansion of "EMEA" isn't very well defined). This means that the meeting will be between 20:00 and 24:00 depending on where one lives. I think neither earlier nor later would be fitting any better. Personally, I think that most (active) EMEA ambassadors are in the +0100 and +0200 time zones and that the resulting times of 21:00 and 22:00 are doable for most people in this regions. I hope you can accept this and that you'll be able to attend, nevertheless. The meetings are taking place once a month only anyway. I think everyone appreciates the collaboration of the EMEA ambassadors and the monthly IRC meetings are a good way to work together. Regards red / SandroMathys -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 15 08:57:21 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:27:21 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FedoraFamily In-Reply-To: <200801151110.31469.kushaldas@gmail.com> References: <478BCC4F.2070806@utos.org> <200801151110.31469.kushaldas@gmail.com> Message-ID: <478C7571.6070600@fedoraproject.org> Kushal Das wrote: > On Tuesday 15 January 2008 02:25:43 am Clint Savage wrote: >> Per a discussion with a couple people in #fudcon today, I am sending out an >> email regarding a discussion that was held at FUDCon this weekend. >> >> One of the first sessions I attended was the "Getting your parents to use >> Fedora" session, which discussed techniques and ideas for helping your >> family members and friends successfully install and run Fedora. > One success story: My parents are using Fedora from the time of Core 5 (Now at > Core 6). As I left my home for the job, they are using my old PIII, 128MB RAM > system. They never used any computer before. So, it was easy to tell them > where to click for what, my father used to have troubles with different > passwords for root and other accounts, so I changed all passwords to same and > as no internet not much threat I think. Setting up sudo and disabling the root account might be better than setting the same password for root and non-root users. Rahul From adityaksharma at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 08:56:26 2008 From: adityaksharma at gmail.com (aDiTyA ShArMa) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:26:26 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Install Fest Message-ID: <3c766be00801150056u64a273d2y1a49d37bafceee6d@mail.gmail.com> Am organising an install fest in my university on januray 27 i figured that creating multiple install media would burn a hole in my pocket, so am planning to set up a network install i was wondering if there are some common problems that one encounters doing that.. if there are, then can someone point them out to me and possible solutions... 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Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.in Indian Fedora mirrors: http://mirror.wbut.ac.in/pub/fedora/linux/ http://fedora.glug-nith.org/linux/ From jdieter at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 10:57:30 2008 From: jdieter at gmail.com (Jonathan Dieter) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:57:30 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Ambassador Meeting this Wednesday ! In-Reply-To: <868256660.149921200386728943.JavaMail.open-xchange@ox2> References: <478BE573.9000303@fedoraproject.org> <1200374378.14727.14.camel@jndwidescreen.lesbg.loc> <868256660.149921200386728943.JavaMail.open-xchange@ox2> Message-ID: <1200394650.14727.30.camel@jndwidescreen.lesbg.loc> On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 09:45 +0100, red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch wrote: > Jonathan Dieter hat am 15. Januar 2008 um 06:19 > geschrieben: > > > Just a request that some future meetings start a bit sooner. We're at > > UTC+0200 (which means the meeting starts at 22:00 for us which is quite > > late). > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jonathan > > > Dear Jonathan > > Please understand, that there is _no_ perfect time (nor weekday) that > fits everyone. EMEA is stretched through many time zones, reaching > from UTC+0000 to UTC+0400 (or even farther, as the expansion of "EMEA" > isn't very well defined). This means that the meeting will be between > 20:00 and 24:00 depending on where one lives. I think neither earlier > nor later would be fitting any better. > > Personally, I think that most (active) EMEA ambassadors are in the > +0100 and +0200 time zones and that the resulting times of 21:00 and > 22:00 are doable for most people in this regions. > > I hope you can accept this and that you'll be able to attend, > nevertheless. The meetings are taking place once a month only anyway. > I think everyone appreciates the collaboration of the EMEA ambassadors > and the monthly IRC meetings are a good way to work together. > > Regards > red / SandroMathys That's fair enough and I totally understand. If I'm the only one pushing for an earlier meeting, then please ignore me. I just figured that a meeting scheduled for something closer to 18:00 (or even 19:00) UTC might allow more people to participate. Remember, the further east we're trying to reach, the earlier we need to schedule it (otherwise people at UTC+0400 or UTC+0500 are needing to be available at midnight or 0100 in the morning). For me personally, the problem is that as a teacher who has to be at school at 07:00, early nights are vital. But again, I will do what I can to be there, no matter when it is, and I won't bring it up again if most people are happy. Jonathan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I wrote a doc about it (slightly outdated)but still works in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/NetworkInstall Let me know if I can help you with anything aDiTyA ShArMa wrote: > Am organising an install fest in my university on januray 27 i figured > that creating multiple install media would burn a hole in my pocket, so > am planning to set up a network install i was wondering if there are > some common problems that one encounters doing that.. if there are, then > can someone point them out to me and possible solutions... > > > Regards > -- > Aditya Kumar Sharma > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list - -- - - -- Nicolas A. Corrarello Fedora Ambassador Argentina c: +54 (911) 5182-2245 e: ncorrare at fedoraproject.org GPG Key: DFC893EE h: fedoraproject.org/wiki/NicolasCorrarello/ GPG Fingerprint: 5C93 42DA 98E1 4EEF B24B 7F8C E145 B2F9 DFC8 93EE Import my key: $ gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-key 0xDFC893EE -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHjMeU4UWy+d/Ik+4RAuEtAKCkyvhdByTC4YZZuB9UHktvOZL2dgCePqXG OofTVt2EPUvWkjhaXfbJtkM= =p9vm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 15 15:26:42 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:26:42 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAmSCo Chair Election Result In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Many of you just know who I am, for who that doesn't know me, i'm Francesco Ugolini, italian Ambassador and, starting from yesterday, FAmSCo Chair. This new year is full of news: starting from the new Fedora Leader, Jack as a marketing related issues coordinator and, finally, the new FAmSCo. After I was nominated FAmSCo chair I asked myself: "What is the future for Ambassadors Project?" Just give me two minutes to answer this question. Last year people understood that something was wrong and, probably, they were right. This is an evolving project, it is not yet stable, and we need to improve day by day, year by year with the help of all the community. I think we stayed too long in a static situation and it was the cause of the stall. Now it's time to start the change. You know how much important are your ideas and your work for us, so it wouldn't be possible to think a change without your support. As you know FAmSCo is here to help people, linking them and giving them the resources to allow ambassadors working well. Not only. It has to steer, guiding people, proposing new ideas, understanding what is right and what is wrong for the project and working following the best way: that's what we will do. You probably know the other FamSCo members: they are great people and trusted Ambassadors. During this year you will know more about me and them and, at the end, you will be able to give us a judgement. Remember: if we (Ambassador from everywhere) will work all together we will able to obtain great results. Best regards Francesco Ugolini -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 15 15:35:53 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:35:53 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] New FAMSCO Vice-Chair Message-ID: It's an honour for me to present the new FAmSCo Vice-Chair Fabian Affolter, he is a great Ambassador and I'm really happy to have him in the FAmSCo team. Congratulation Fabian! 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URL: From subhodip at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 15 16:45:57 2008 From: subhodip at fedoraproject.org (subhodip biswas) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:15:57 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] New FAMSCO Vice-Chair In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <539333cb0801150845w461b8a2fy29125428d155a62a@mail.gmail.com> congrats to Fabian ... three cheers for him 2008/1/15 Francesco Ugolini : > It's an honour for me to present the new FAmSCo Vice-Chair Fabian Affolter, > he is a great Ambassador and I'm really happy to have him in the FAmSCo > team. > > Congratulation Fabian! > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Regards Subhodip Biswas GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas From rogepix at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 17:38:53 2008 From: rogepix at gmail.com (giuseppe pignataro) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:38:53 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] New FAMSCO Vice-Chair In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34680d50801150938x13980bb8qc44e8e305f81c0d1@mail.gmail.com> 2008/1/15, Francesco Ugolini : > It's an honour for me to present the new FAmSCo Vice-Chair Fabian Affolter, > he is a great Ambassador and I'm really happy to have him in the FAmSCo > team. > > Congratulation Fabian! > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Congratulation Fabian.!!! -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GiuseppePignataro From fedora.lin at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 18:50:38 2008 From: fedora.lin at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Lin) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:50:38 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] North & South America Ambassador meeting Reminder Message-ID: Hi All! Just for remind North & South America Ambassadors meeting: 2008-01-17 10:00 UTC #For local time http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=01&day=17&hour=13&min=0&sec=0 #For meeting Schedule http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-01-17 -- Juan Carlos Lin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ben at fedoraunity.org Tue Jan 15 18:59:49 2008 From: ben at fedoraunity.org (Ben Williams) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:59:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Ambassadors] North & South America Ambassador meeting Reminder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3469469.421200423589166.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> your post says 10:00 UTC and the site say 13:00 which is correct. (1300 is 8am EST which i can see a problem for west coast USA Ambassadors) Ben From marketing-list at fedoralinks.org Tue Jan 15 19:38:22 2008 From: marketing-list at fedoralinks.org (Robert 'Bob' Jensen) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:38:22 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Resignation from the Ambassadors project. Message-ID: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> I have made a choice to resign from the Fedora Ambassadors project for a couple reasons. First I do not feel that all ambassadors will be equally represented by FAMSCo and its choice of leadership. Second now is the time to begin rebuilding the Fedora Marketing Project in to what Ambassadors could have been. I wish all the ambassadors that are not in Europe or the EMEA area the best of luck you are going to need it in the coming year. For those ambassadors that are in the EMEA "think globally and act locally" the choices you are making now will impact everyone in the future. Robert 'Bob' Jensen Former Fedora Ambassador, Former FAMSCo From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 15 20:16:43 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:16:43 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> References: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> Message-ID: <200801152117.04367.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Dienstag, 15. Januar 2008 20:38:22 schrieb Robert 'Bob' Jensen: > I have made a choice to resign from the Fedora Ambassadors project for a > couple reasons. First I do not feel that all ambassadors will be equally > represented by FAMSCo and its choice of leadership. Second now is the > time to begin rebuilding the Fedora Marketing Project in to what > Ambassadors could have been. I wish all the ambassadors that are not in > Europe or the EMEA area the best of luck you are going to need it in the > coming year. Yeah, blame all Ambassadors, blame Ambassadors work in Europe, go fishing in other regions, split our power. -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From gerold at lugd.org Tue Jan 15 20:31:49 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:31:49 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> References: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> Message-ID: <1200429109.3536.16.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Bob, my best wishes to you! BUt I don't not really understand your mail. It looks to me that you are NOT satisfied with the last election of FAMSCo and also not with the leading of FAMSCo. I interpret your mail as follows: You think, the FAMSCo is now fully in European hand and nobody else can do something against that. My apologize about that issue; EVERYBODY, every Ambassador in this world has got MORE than 4 (I'm not sure but I think it were SIX) damned weeks to selfnominate himself and the courage to tell every of this wonderful over 200 Ambassador why they should vote him! Approx. 60 have voted, what a pity! In that case I totally agree with you. But if you go now and send a mail and "warn" about the EMEA Ambassadors, Bob, thats not really fair. In the past, we asked more and more for support from the US, have a look where all the FUDCons are planed and held ... e.g. Red Hat in Raleigh .... Oh, I never saw that city Raleigh in europe :-( If we need something we have to eat humble pie to get something. You "American Ambassadors" are sitting at the base you get all you need and imho you think: f**** Europe And thats really not fair! We try to found a legal entity to support and promote Fedora wherever we can IN OUR AREA and what shall I say? Do you pay all my time and my bills when I organise Linuxtag; attend at FOSDEM or elsewhere? Does Red Hat or Fedora does? NO mostly NOT! Because we mostly pay our trips, our participation out of our pocket, that we have to opportunity to pay for FEDORA Posters or FEDORA Stickers or whatever. Aaaarghs ... I don't want to be unfair and I don't want to divert the Fedora world in diverent camps like you try it with your mail. WE in Europe want to have our area more supported and helped by Red Hat and nevertheless if you can't see that point, please stop writing such mails. Gerold EMEA Ambassador with heart and soul Am Dienstag, den 15.01.2008, 13:38 -0600 schrieb Robert 'Bob' Jensen: > I have made a choice to resign from the Fedora Ambassadors project for a > couple reasons. First I do not feel that all ambassadors will be equally > represented by FAMSCo and its choice of leadership. Second now is the > time to begin rebuilding the Fedora Marketing Project in to what > Ambassadors could have been. I wish all the ambassadors that are not in > Europe or the EMEA area the best of luck you are going to need it in the > coming year. > > For those ambassadors that are in the EMEA "think globally and act > locally" the choices you are making now will impact everyone in the future. > > Robert 'Bob' Jensen > Former Fedora Ambassador, Former FAMSCo > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Gerold Kassube -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I wish all the ambassadors that are not in Europe or the > EMEA area the best of luck you are going to need it in the coming year. > > For those ambassadors that are in the EMEA "think globally and act locally" > the choices you are making now will impact everyone in the future. Thanks for your non-wishes. As you can think, I'm just less worry now about your resign. It just looks to me as you're very jealous, because Gerold was and is doing a really a huge work for Fedora EMEA with a huge effort. AFAIK you didn't do as FAMSCO member that much as some of the European non-FAMSCO members did; if you are now only trying to make the good old Europe maggoty with your mail, just go and never come back...sorry. But the well message is: Folks, there's now another free seat for a further Fedora EMEA ambassador! :) Greetings, Robert From couf at skynet.be Tue Jan 15 21:06:12 2008 From: couf at skynet.be (Bart Couvreur) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:06:12 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM2008 / organisational from OUTSIDE Belgium In-Reply-To: <1200344639.8653.36.camel@versuz> References: <1200342368.3564.5.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1200344639.8653.36.camel@versuz> Message-ID: <1200431172.10909.10.camel@versuz> Op maandag 14-01-2008 om 21:03 uur [tijdzone +0000], schreef Bart Couvreur: > Op maandag 14-01-2008 om 21:26 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Gerold > Kassube: > > Hi and Dear *, > > > > since we have to plan and move forward with the attending the FOSDEM2008 > > in Bruxelles and our "on-site-contact" is not able to support us "not > > belgium Ambassadors" we have to look what we need to do ... > > > > Personally I like to stay here: > > http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/brubr-renaissance-brussels-hotel/ > > If you will also participate the stay there try to book over www.hrs.de > > The prices are imho moderate with > > EUR 79,- / night for a single room and > > EUR 99,- / night for a twin room > > > > Decide whatever you want and if you want let me know; here by the ML > > and/or off ML (E-mail is known) > > Hi all, > > First of all my apologies to all who have been waiting for news on > accommodation for Fosdem. I've been too busy with exams to look at it > and thought Frederic would handle it. That said, I shouldn't have let it > be, so excuse me once again. > > As such I'm looking for your accommodation now and will let you know > more at last tomorrow evening. > Hi, As promised after a lot of research, some results: * Most hotels will cost between 60 - 100 ? / night for a double room, thus makes that also the price you pay, if you come for two days. This is a lot for some of us (including me, if I'll stay over) * Cheaper hostels would be youth hostels (depending on the type of room between 20 & 35 ?) Who needs accommodation? And what price range? Send it to me off-list Thanks, Bart -- Bart key fingerprint: 6AAB 544D 3432 D013 776D 3602 ADB6 6B2A D93F 0F93 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Maybe because most support went to the USA in the past years and people wanted to change this? Btw, the previous FAmSCo consisted of 4 US ambassadors. Did you resign when they were elected? I guess not. Fedora ambassadors in EMEA are having a good time indeed. We're about to establish that NPO of ours and this might mean that we'll finally get more support. And yes, more EMEA ambassadors in FAmSCo could mean more support too. But what would Fedora be without the non-EMEA people? What would we (EMEA) ambassadors be then? We EMEA people know very well, that people (incl. ambassadors) at other places are important. And - IMHO lacking quite some support in the past years - we know how it is to be in need of support. I therefore truly believe, that the current FAmSCo will do a very good job. The best job they can possibly do. I know all 4 EMEA FAmSCo members in person, from a handful events. I know they're doing a great job when they say they'll do. And they're fair. You're not, Bob. Nevertheless, I wish you much success with your plans for marketing. In my opinion, marketing is very important to us ambassadors - and we ambassadors for marketing. Working together is the keyword there, exactly as is within the ambassadors. Don't you dare to forget that! Kind regards red / SandroMathys Robert 'Bob' Jensen hat am 15. Januar 2008 um 20:38 geschrieben: > I have made a choice to resign from the Fedora Ambassadors project for a > couple reasons. First I do not feel that all ambassadors will be equally > represented by FAMSCo and its choice of leadership. Second now is the > time to begin rebuilding the Fedora Marketing Project in to what > Ambassadors could have been. I wish all the ambassadors that are not in > Europe or the EMEA area the best of luck you are going to need it in the > coming year. > > For those ambassadors that are in the EMEA "think globally and act > locally" the choices you are making now will impact everyone in the future. > > Robert 'Bob' Jensen > Former Fedora Ambassador, Former FAMSCo > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pablo.floss at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 21:17:14 2008 From: pablo.floss at gmail.com (Pablo Barrera) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:17:14 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> References: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> Message-ID: <46d0f200801151317x7cc597cao92239b826e6147f0@mail.gmail.com> Yes, I am agree with some opinions, and I made post, and I sent a private mail to max, paul and jack about what is the really need for our region, i.e Latinamerica. I am not worried about who was elected. I think that anyway, in spite of some differences, all the people chosen are good people, and was elected by the communty. I think that the spirit of the Bob?s mails is about how to get success in regions, where theres not representation. I think that Famsco will try to make the best. Dont you think?.... When I talk about the "changes", i.e moving to more chairs divided by regions, to get more representative ambassador (after this, the amount of ambassador for election, was very very low), but this could be an oportunity to find the way to improve the famsco and ambassadors work all around. Best wishes! Pablo Barrera 2008/1/15, Robert 'Bob' Jensen : > > I have made a choice to resign from the Fedora Ambassadors project for a > couple reasons. First I do not feel that all ambassadors will be equally > represented by FAMSCo and its choice of leadership. Second now is the > time to begin rebuilding the Fedora Marketing Project in to what > Ambassadors could have been. I wish all the ambassadors that are not in > Europe or the EMEA area the best of luck you are going to need it in the > coming year. > > For those ambassadors that are in the EMEA "think globally and act > locally" the choices you are making now will impact everyone in the > future. > > Robert 'Bob' Jensen > Former Fedora Ambassador, Former FAMSCo > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Pablo Barrera -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Jan 15 21:47:00 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:47:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> References: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> Message-ID: > [lots of arguments that I have snipped out] (1) It is true that the largest FUDCons have taken place in the United States so far. I have spent the last two days working with Greg and Jack to build a plan for the coming year (March 2008 - February 2009) that will take FUDCon global, and allow us to put on a FUDCon in Europe on the same level as the one we just had in Raleigh (perhaps even bigger). This plan will also allow us to continue to have a large North American-based FUDCon each year. We will be submitting this plan up the chain for approval and budget within the next few days. (2) Included in this plan is specific goals to reach out in a far more useful way to our Latin American and Asian communities also. (3) Bob and the Fedora Unity team do great work for us. I have personally given their team significant financial support in the past year, including bringing them to speak at the Red Hat Summit. In turn, they have built software and community that has been good for Fedora. Our support of Bob and the Fedora Unity team continues -- we brought a big chunk of them out to FUDCon this past weekend. (4) Similarly, there can be no debate that the Ambassadors in Europe have done excellent work. I was there twice last year, and incredibly impressed both times. I am very hopeful that my next job at Red Hat will enable me to work far more closely with the Ambassadors and Marketing teams than I have in the past as Fedora Project Leader, because my attention can be more focused on a few parts of Fedora, rather than being split among all of Fedora. If there are specific problems with the election that I am not understanding or aware of, please let me know. --Max From linux at elfshadow.net Wed Jan 16 03:44:33 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:44:33 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] North & South America Ambassador meeting Reminder In-Reply-To: <3469469.421200423589166.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> References: <3469469.421200423589166.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> Message-ID: <10e0a9b00801151944u336d698dmafaec72102549cee@mail.gmail.com> On Jan 15, 2008 1:59 PM, Ben Williams wrote: > your post says 10:00 UTC and the site say 13:00 which is correct. (1300 is 8am EST which i can see a problem for west coast USA > Ambassadors) All the other places seem to indicate 13:00 UTC, so I am guessing the 10:00 UTC was a typo. Ben does bring up a good point though, a 13:00 UTC meeting time makes it very difficult for the western half of the US to attend the meetings. We should aim for a meeting time when at least the majority of folks in the region fall into "awake" hours. It looks like that is on the meeting agenda though as "2008 Meeting Schedule for North & South America", so we can work out a more suitable time then (or on the list if need be). --Jeffrey From jonstanley at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 04:11:04 2008 From: jonstanley at gmail.com (Jon Stanley) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:11:04 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] North & South America Ambassador meeting Reminder In-Reply-To: <10e0a9b00801151944u336d698dmafaec72102549cee@mail.gmail.com> References: <3469469.421200423589166.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> <10e0a9b00801151944u336d698dmafaec72102549cee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Does this take place in #fedora-meeting or in #fedora-mktg??? Apologies if this is somewhere else, I'm not at a computer atm. On 1/15/08, Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: > On Jan 15, 2008 1:59 PM, Ben Williams wrote: > > your post says 10:00 UTC and the site say 13:00 which is correct. (1300 > is 8am EST which i can see a problem for west coast USA > Ambassadors) > > All the other places seem to indicate 13:00 UTC, so I am guessing the > 10:00 UTC was a typo. > > Ben does bring up a good point though, a 13:00 UTC meeting time makes > it very difficult for the western half of the US to attend the > meetings. We should aim for a meeting time when at least the majority > of folks in the region fall into "awake" hours. It looks like that is > on the meeting agenda though as "2008 Meeting Schedule for North & > South America", so we can work out a more suitable time then (or on > the list if need be). > > --Jeffrey > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Jon Stanley Fedora Ambassador jstanley at fedoraproject.org From bhanupat at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 16 05:55:11 2008 From: bhanupat at fedoraproject.org (Bhanu Patial) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:25:11 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Apologies for missing APAC FA meetings Message-ID: Hello All, Apologies for missing APAC FA meetings. I am realloctaing to new place. We will start regular meetings within few days. Regards, Bhanu Patial bhanupat at fedroaproject.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdieter at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 07:17:29 2008 From: jdieter at gmail.com (Jonathan Dieter) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:17:29 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: <20080115204545.GA6972@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> References: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> <20080115204545.GA6972@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> Message-ID: <1200467849.23175.28.camel@jndwidescreen.lesbg.loc> On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 21:45 +0100, Robert Scheck wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > > I have made a choice to resign from the Fedora Ambassadors project for a > > couple reasons. > if you are now only trying to make the good old Europe maggoty > with your mail, just go and never come back...sorry. > > But the well message is: Folks, there's now another free seat for a further > Fedora EMEA ambassador! :) I really don't believe that this is an appropriate way to deal with this problem. When you reply rudely to Bob's original email, it reflects poorly on you and the EMEA ambassadors (in which I'm included). While I don't agree with his assessment, I can understand where Bob is coming from. It seems that he's afraid that FAmSCo will be biased towards EMEA and neglect the other areas. I don't know enough of the history of FAmSCo to know whether or not it was the opposite way when there were four US members on FAmSCo. Fedora Ambassadors should be (and it seems, largely are) for Fedora first and their region second. And the new FAmSCo *must* make sure that their highest priority is Fedora Ambassadors, not their particular region (no matter what has gone before). If we succeed in this, the different regions will work together effectively, Fedora Ambassadors will grow and people like Bob will come back. If we fail, then Fedora Ambassadors will be divided into bickering groups that fade away into irrelevance. Bob, we will be sorry to see you go. I hope you will return when you see that your fears for FAmSCo's future aren't realized. Jonathan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fhornain at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 07:55:34 2008 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:55:34 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM2008 / organisational from OUTSIDE Belgium In-Reply-To: <1200431172.10909.10.camel@versuz> References: <1200342368.3564.5.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1200344639.8653.36.camel@versuz> <1200431172.10909.10.camel@versuz> Message-ID: <3161376e0801152355g4f678175hda96e239c6d65e7e@mail.gmail.com> Dear *, After what you wrote on this post, I think you can understand the difficulty for an on-site ambassador to find accommodation which satisfy everybody. I let you imagine if I had booked expensive hotel for the Fedora group. I can bet some of you would have not been happy with that choice. :( Let's hope you understand my point of view. Ok, for this year it is a little bit missed. :( However, as we are going to meet each other and as you probably have booked or will book your trip in different hotels, hostels this year it may be easier during the FOSDEM '08 to decide what will be the best accommodation for FOSDEM '09 in accordance with all our different requirements. So, I think it is a task I have to do during the event. What do you think about that ? Excuse me again for this year, guys. ;-] BTW, thanks a lot for you work Gerold and Bart. Kind Regards Frederic Hornain 2008/1/15 Bart Couvreur : > > Op maandag 14-01-2008 om 21:03 uur [tijdzone +0000], schreef Bart > Couvreur: > > Op maandag 14-01-2008 om 21:26 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Gerold > > Kassube: > > > Hi and Dear *, > > > > > > since we have to plan and move forward with the attending the FOSDEM2008 > > > in Bruxelles and our "on-site-contact" is not able to support us "not > > > belgium Ambassadors" we have to look what we need to do ... > > > > > > Personally I like to stay here: > > > http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/brubr-renaissance-brussels-hotel/ > > > If you will also participate the stay there try to book over www.hrs.de > > > The prices are imho moderate with > > > EUR 79,- / night for a single room and > > > EUR 99,- / night for a twin room > > > > > > Decide whatever you want and if you want let me know; here by the ML > > > and/or off ML (E-mail is known) > > > > Hi all, > > > > First of all my apologies to all who have been waiting for news on > > accommodation for Fosdem. I've been too busy with exams to look at it > > and thought Frederic would handle it. That said, I shouldn't have let it > > be, so excuse me once again. > > > > As such I'm looking for your accommodation now and will let you know > > more at last tomorrow evening. > > > > Hi, > > As promised after a lot of research, some results: > > * Most hotels will cost between 60 - 100 ? / night for a double > room, thus makes that also the price you pay, if you come for > two days. This is a lot for some of us (including me, if I'll > stay over) > * Cheaper hostels would be youth hostels (depending on the type of > room between 20 & 35 ?) > > Who needs accommodation? And what price range? Send it to me off-list > > Thanks, > > > Bart > > -- > Bart > key fingerprint: 6AAB 544D 3432 D013 776D 3602 ADB6 6B2A D93F 0F93 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org From fedora.lin at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 13:01:15 2008 From: fedora.lin at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Lin) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:01:15 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] North & South America Ambassador meeting Reminder In-Reply-To: <3469469.421200423589166.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> References: <3469469.421200423589166.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> Message-ID: Sorry, correct is 13:00 UTC, 10:00 Local 2008/1/15, Ben Williams : > > > your post says 10:00 UTC and the site say 13:00 which is correct. (1300 > is 8am EST which i can see a problem for west coast USA Ambassadors) > > > Ben > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Juan Carlos Lin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fedora.lin at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 13:01:52 2008 From: fedora.lin at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Lin) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:01:52 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] North & South America Ambassador meeting Reminder In-Reply-To: <3469469.421200423589166.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> References: <3469469.421200423589166.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> Message-ID: What time you sugest to change? 2008/1/15, Ben Williams : > > > your post says 10:00 UTC and the site say 13:00 which is correct. (1300 > is 8am EST which i can see a problem for west coast USA Ambassadors) > > > Ben > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Juan Carlos Lin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pcalarco at nd.edu Wed Jan 16 13:39:14 2008 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Vincent Calarco) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:39:14 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] North & South America Ambassador meeting Reminder In-Reply-To: References: <3469469.421200423589166.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> Message-ID: <478E0902.6070808@nd.edu> If we change to noon Eastern, that would be 8:00 am Pacific time, which seems reasonable. I think this is 17:00 UTC (correct me if I am wrong). - pascal Juan Carlos Lin wrote: > What time you sugest to change? > > > 2008/1/15, Ben Williams >: > > > your post says 10:00 UTC and the site say 13:00 which is > correct. (1300 is 8am EST which i can see a problem for west > coast USA Ambassadors) > > > Ben > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Juan Carlos Lin > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ------------------------------------- Pascal V. Calarco, MLIS Head, Library Systems University Libraries of Notre Dame/ Michiana Academic Library Consortium Notre Dame, IN USA 46556-5629 http://www.library.nd.edu/ tel.: 574-631-3409 fax: 574-631-6772 -------------------------------------- From fedora.lin at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 13:41:32 2008 From: fedora.lin at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Lin) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:41:32 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] North & South America Ambassador Meeting New Time Schedule Message-ID: Dear all, Because of considering to western coast time, the meeting will change to 2008-01-17 19:00 UTC #For Schedule https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-01-17 #For local time http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=01&day=17&hour=19&min=0&sec=0 Very sorry for the mistake in the first reminder about UTC/Local time -- Juan Carlos Lin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karlthered2 at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 14:22:58 2008 From: karlthered2 at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H._Gu=E9mar?=) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:22:58 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: <1200467849.23175.28.camel@jndwidescreen.lesbg.loc> References: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> <20080115204545.GA6972@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> <1200467849.23175.28.camel@jndwidescreen.lesbg.loc> Message-ID: > I wish all the ambassadors that are not in Europe or the EMEA area the best of luck you are going to need it in the coming year. Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. Current FAmSCo has been democratically elected, and any ambassador could have self-nominated. You didn't even wait that the newly elected FAmSCo starts its work to criticize them. This is quite rude and unfair. There are no factions in Fedora Ambassadors and I hope that'll be the same in the future. At least, give a chance to our new FAmSCo, Fedora Ambassadors next challenge will be to better structure itself. This election is NOT (and should not be) an opportunity for EMEA to get more attention but to leverage our experience in order to spread Fedora everywhere in the world. What have been done in EMEA, could be done in America Latina, North-America, Asia etc ... I confide in the new FAmSCo as I confided in the previous one. I also hope that we'll count you again among our peers. FedoraProject knows no borders, no limits. H. G. From pablo.floss at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 16:09:17 2008 From: pablo.floss at gmail.com (Pablo Barrera) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:09:17 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: <1200467849.23175.28.camel@jndwidescreen.lesbg.loc> References: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> <20080115204545.GA6972@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> <1200467849.23175.28.camel@jndwidescreen.lesbg.loc> Message-ID: <46d0f200801160809g38d14dc1x8007381d70803262@mail.gmail.com> Hi Fedora Ambassadors should be (and it seems, largely are) for Fedora > first and their region second. I am not agree. You are ambassador from a worldwide organization, but you are focused in your area. Dont spect than other countries, should resign their indentity or needs. This is "common first world acception". You are concentred the problem in EMEA and USA, and theres a lot of ambassadors out of this places. And the new FAmSCo *must* make sure that > their highest priority is Fedora Ambassadors, not their particular > region (no matter what has gone before). I dont know how is your condition in your region, as you dont know how is our condition here. So , the highest priority for Ambassador is "spread fedora", this is the mission, the statement and the purpose of Ambassador. If we succeed in this, the different regions will work together > effectively, Fedora Ambassadors will grow and people like Bob will come > back. If we fail, then Fedora Ambassadors will be divided into > bickering groups that fade away into irrelevance. Fedora Ambassadors are divided right now. I understand that the developing of the distro must be focused in Red Hat based countries, it is common sense.But about Ambassador roles, the leaving up of Bob, represents the inner crisis, that Ithink the new management of FAMSCO and the important continuing role of Max, wants to resolve. Bob, we will be sorry to see you go. I hope you will return when you > see that your fears for FAmSCo's future aren't realized. Yes, the same... Best regards P. Jonathan > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- Pablo Barrera -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 16 16:47:51 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:47:51 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> References: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> Message-ID: FAmSCo is not Europe. FAmSCo is You. FAmSCo is made by people voted by people, people who came from all the World, moreover, each ambassador could nominate himself/herself and could be a FAmSCo member. So i don't understand why you say FAmSCo is looking only at Europe. We were chosen by Ambassadors and we will work for everyone, it doesn't matter the place where they live, their language: for FAmSCo each ambassador is important. Regards Francesco Ugolini 2008/1/15, Robert 'Bob' Jensen : > > I have made a choice to resign from the Fedora Ambassadors project for a > couple reasons. First I do not feel that all ambassadors will be equally > represented by FAMSCo and its choice of leadership. Second now is the > time to begin rebuilding the Fedora Marketing Project in to what > Ambassadors could have been. I wish all the ambassadors that are not in > Europe or the EMEA area the best of luck you are going to need it in the > coming year. > > For those ambassadors that are in the EMEA "think globally and act > locally" the choices you are making now will impact everyone in the > future. > > Robert 'Bob' Jensen > Former Fedora Ambassador, Former FAMSCo > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdieter at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 17:10:24 2008 From: jdieter at gmail.com (Jonathan Dieter) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:10:24 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: <46d0f200801160809g38d14dc1x8007381d70803262@mail.gmail.com> References: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> <20080115204545.GA6972@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> <1200467849.23175.28.camel@jndwidescreen.lesbg.loc> <46d0f200801160809g38d14dc1x8007381d70803262@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1200503424.23175.69.camel@jndwidescreen.lesbg.loc> Hello, On Wed, 2008-01-16 at 13:09 -0300, Pablo Barrera wrote: > Hi > > Fedora Ambassadors should be (and it seems, largely are) for Fedora > first and their region second. > > I am not agree. You are ambassador from a worldwide organization, but you are focused > in your area. Dont spect than other countries, should resign their indentity or needs. This > is "common first world acception". You are concentred the problem in EMEA and USA, and > theres a lot of ambassadors out of this places. I live in Lebanon, which isn't part of the US or Europe (though it is part of EMEA for the purpose of Fedora). And I definitely don't believe that any ambassador should resign their identity or needs to a vague hand-waving "greater good". What I'm trying to say (and possibly saying very poorly) is that this kind of competition between the Fedora Ambassador regions is bad. We should be working together, not against each other. That's what I mean by Fedora first, region second. I am very aware that Fedora Ambassadors are far larger than EMEA and the US, but it seems that this whole problem has risen because a member of the latter distrusts the former (though this might be completely wrong). > And the new FAmSCo *must* make sure that > their highest priority is Fedora Ambassadors, not their particular > region (no matter what has gone before). > > I dont know how is your condition in your region, as you dont know how is our condition here. > So , the highest priority for Ambassador is "spread fedora", this is the mission, the statement > and the purpose of Ambassador. Yes, exactly!! The point I was making is that FAmSCo can't show favoritism (which seemed to be the original accusation). Note that I'm not insinuating that FAmSCo ever has shown favoritism or ever will. You as an Ambassador will focus on your region. FAmSCo's job (at least as I understand it) is to be a support to you as much as is possible. > If we succeed in this, the different regions will work together > effectively, Fedora Ambassadors will grow and people like Bob will come > back. If we fail, then Fedora Ambassadors will be divided into > bickering groups that fade away into irrelevance. > > Fedora Ambassadors are divided right now. I understand that the developing of the distro > must be focused in Red Hat based countries, it is common sense.But about Ambassador > roles, the leaving up of Bob, represents the inner crisis, that Ithink the new management of FAMSCO > and the important continuing role of Max, wants to resolve. All I was trying to say is that we as Fedora Ambassadors really need to make sure that we're working together rather than fighting each other. As for the development being focused on "Red Hat based countries", I disagree. I'm currently working on yum-presto, a yum plugin designed to reduce the download size of updates. Seeing as most "Red Hat based countries" have bandwidth to spare, this isn't very useful for them. However, for those of us with limited bandwidth, it's very helpful. > Bob, we will be sorry to see you go. I hope you will return when you > see that your fears for FAmSCo's future aren't realized. > > > Yes, the same... > > Best regards > > P. And the same to you. :) Jonathan -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I joined Gerold at his hotel as we'll probably be spending a lot of time together. My colleague will be staying there also. Thank you couf for taking the others to a place to spend the night ;-) Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From fab at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 16 17:40:44 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:40:44 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] =?iso-8859-1?q?=5BFwd=3A_OpenExpo_Newsletter=3A_Pr?= =?iso-8859-1?q?ogramm_der_OpenExpo_2008_in_Bern_ver=F6ffentlicht=5D?= Message-ID: <478E419C.3000105@fedoraproject.org> FYI, mainly for the attendees of the OpenExpo 2008 -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: OpenExpo Subject: OpenExpo Newsletter: Programm der OpenExpo 2008 in Bern ver?ffentlicht Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:13:05 +0100 Size: 6727 URL: From rau_a at web.de Wed Jan 16 17:52:51 2008 From: rau_a at web.de (Andreas Rau) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:52:51 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: References: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> Message-ID: <1200505971.15044.48.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> +1 Mr. Ugolini, that's also my point of view - work together and stop writing such mails. There is no need for. Kind regards, Andreas Rau Am Mittwoch, den 16.01.2008, 17:47 +0100 schrieb Francesco Ugolini: > FAmSCo is not Europe. FAmSCo is You. > > FAmSCo is made by people voted by people, people who came from all the > World, moreover, each ambassador could nominate himself/herself and > could be a FAmSCo member. So i don't understand why you say FAmSCo is > looking only at Europe. > > We were chosen by Ambassadors and we will work for everyone, it > doesn't matter the place where they live, their language: for FAmSCo > each ambassador is important. > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > > > 2008/1/15, Robert 'Bob' Jensen : > I have made a choice to resign from the Fedora Ambassadors > project for a > couple reasons. First I do not feel that all ambassadors will > be equally > represented by FAMSCo and its choice of leadership. Second now > is the > time to begin rebuilding the Fedora Marketing Project in to > what > Ambassadors could have been. I wish all the ambassadors that > are not in > Europe or the EMEA area the best of luck you are going to need > it in the > coming year. > > For those ambassadors that are in the EMEA "think globally and > act > locally" the choices you are making now will impact everyone > in the future. > > Robert 'Bob' Jensen > Former Fedora Ambassador, Former FAMSCo > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From pcalarco at nd.edu Wed Jan 16 18:05:32 2008 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Vincent Calarco) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:05:32 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: References: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> Message-ID: <478E476C.9090801@nd.edu> Well said! +1 From the perspective of a new ambassador, the Fedora Ambassadors project is at a really exciting and interesting point. The discussion of streamlining Fedora events, from the perspective of the EventKit and marketing, and having the opportunity to work on these goals from a global perspective and learn from each other is energizing, exciting, and makes one feel part of the global Fedora community. Let's move forward together and work towards the advancement of Fedora, globally! I look forward to getting to know all of you through this project. Very best, - pascal Francesco Ugolini wrote: > FAmSCo is not Europe. FAmSCo is You. > > FAmSCo is made by people voted by people, people who came from all the > World, moreover, each ambassador could nominate himself/herself and > could be a FAmSCo member. So i don't understand why you say FAmSCo is > looking only at Europe. > > We were chosen by Ambassadors and we will work for everyone, it > doesn't matter the place where they live, their language: for FAmSCo > each ambassador is important. > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini From pablo.floss at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 18:07:28 2008 From: pablo.floss at gmail.com (Pablo Barrera) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:07:28 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: <1200503424.23175.69.camel@jndwidescreen.lesbg.loc> References: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> <20080115204545.GA6972@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> <1200467849.23175.28.camel@jndwidescreen.lesbg.loc> <46d0f200801160809g38d14dc1x8007381d70803262@mail.gmail.com> <1200503424.23175.69.camel@jndwidescreen.lesbg.loc> Message-ID: <46d0f200801161007t67f2f380od07837883c6a2d5e@mail.gmail.com> Hi 2008/1/16, Jonathan Dieter : > > Hello, > > I live in Lebanon, which isn't part of the US or Europe (though it is > part of EMEA for the purpose of Fedora). And I definitely don't believe > that any ambassador should resign their identity or needs to a vague > hand-waving "greater good". Its not about indentity, its about, how is the real attention to other "less stronger" countries. If the idea is focused only on strong fedora ambassadors demography countries, will never be and wordwilde fedora community focused on each region and nation. What I'm trying to say (and possibly saying very poorly) is that this > kind of competition between the Fedora Ambassador regions is bad. Nobody talks about competition, I am talking about real needs. Dont get confused about this. Crisis is present. Theres countries with less attention than others. This is a reality. We > should be working together, not against each other. That's what I mean > by Fedora first, region second. In order to be possible, theres must be a region focused activity, if you look forward EMEA, your are not seeing under you region. The worldwide vision is true, it exits and its present, but the role in your region, is attend the needs of your region. Autorreferencial vision are need to promote fedora locally. You can see how the EMEA or US works, but you must apply this "methods" to your local needs, and sometimes, the local needs are different than the "main models" I am very aware that Fedora Ambassadors are far larger than EMEA and the > US, but it seems that this whole problem has risen because a member of > the latter distrusts the former (though this might be completely wrong). i dont think so about a distrust. Different vissions and opinions, doesnt distrust anyone. We dont have the need to go to the same place, with the same methods. We are united on distro and vision about FLOSS, but we have special different needs. > And the new FAmSCo *must* make sure that > > their highest priority is Fedora Ambassadors, not their > particular > > region (no matter what has gone before). > > > > I dont know how is your condition in your region, as you dont know how > is our condition here. > > So , the highest priority for Ambassador is "spread fedora", this is the > mission, the statement > > and the purpose of Ambassador. > > Yes, exactly!! The point I was making is that FAmSCo can't show > favoritism (which seemed to be the original accusation). Favoritism is not the correct word. The correct word is "focused on stronger countries". This is not a subjetive reflection. Reality show us, that the main idea is focused only on stronger countries and let in "the second stage" the "weak" countries. Note that I'm > not insinuating that FAmSCo ever has shown favoritism or ever will. So?....who insinuate this?...nobody insinuate anything. Nobody is telling nothing against nobody. We are talking about how to improve the processes... You as an Ambassador will focus on your region. FAmSCo's job (at least > as I understand it) is to be a support to you as much as is possible. Until today, FAMSCO was a "ghost" for me. Nothing more than a "cd/dvd ship" process. The only REAL contact that i have with famsco is Rodrigo. Nothing else. Nobody ask me what i need for my region, my country or my local needs for events. > If we succeed in this, the different regions will work together > > effectively, Fedora Ambassadors will grow and people like Bob > will come > > back. If we fail, then Fedora Ambassadors will be divided into > > bickering groups that fade away into irrelevance. > > > > Fedora Ambassadors are divided right now. I understand that the > developing of the distro > > must be focused in Red Hat based countries, it is common sense.But about > Ambassador > > roles, the leaving up of Bob, represents the inner crisis, that Ithink > the new management of FAMSCO > > and the important continuing role of Max, wants to resolve. > > All I was trying to say is that we as Fedora Ambassadors really need to > make sure that we're working together rather than fighting each other. Split is a reality. We have a structural problem about interpretation of "local" and "global". As for the development being focused on "Red Hat based countries", I > disagree. I'm currently working on yum-presto, a yum plugin designed to > reduce the download size of updates. Seeing as most "Red Hat based > countries" have bandwidth to spare, this isn't very useful for them. > However, for those of us with limited bandwidth, it's very helpful. "useful for everyone" will be better ;) -- Pablo Barrera -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pablo.floss at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 18:09:09 2008 From: pablo.floss at gmail.com (Pablo Barrera) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:09:09 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: <1200505971.15044.48.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> References: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> <1200505971.15044.48.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> Message-ID: <46d0f200801161009v1f24e9dcjf34b67b50c9c1d51@mail.gmail.com> Yes, theres a need to get solve the problems. We must not turn the head to other place. We must look how to solve some problems. We need to talk about this things... One important member of former Famsco has gone....this represents something important... We are not perfect! Reflection is needed now... P. 2008/1/16, Andreas Rau : > > +1 Mr. Ugolini, > > that's also my point of view - work together and stop writing such > mails. There is no need for. > > Kind regards, > Andreas Rau > > Am Mittwoch, den 16.01.2008, 17:47 +0100 schrieb Francesco Ugolini: > > FAmSCo is not Europe. FAmSCo is You. > > > > FAmSCo is made by people voted by people, people who came from all the > > World, moreover, each ambassador could nominate himself/herself and > > could be a FAmSCo member. So i don't understand why you say FAmSCo is > > looking only at Europe. > > > > We were chosen by Ambassadors and we will work for everyone, it > > doesn't matter the place where they live, their language: for FAmSCo > > each ambassador is important. > > > > Regards > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > > > > > > > 2008/1/15, Robert 'Bob' Jensen : > > I have made a choice to resign from the Fedora Ambassadors > > project for a > > couple reasons. First I do not feel that all ambassadors will > > be equally > > represented by FAMSCo and its choice of leadership. Second now > > is the > > time to begin rebuilding the Fedora Marketing Project in to > > what > > Ambassadors could have been. I wish all the ambassadors that > > are not in > > Europe or the EMEA area the best of luck you are going to need > > it in the > > coming year. > > > > For those ambassadors that are in the EMEA "think globally and > > act > > locally" the choices you are making now will impact everyone > > in the future. > > > > Robert 'Bob' Jensen > > Former Fedora Ambassador, Former FAMSCo > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Pablo Barrera -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ben at fedoraunity.org Wed Jan 16 18:11:01 2008 From: ben at fedoraunity.org (Ben Williams) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:11:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Ambassadors] Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: <46d0f200801161009v1f24e9dcjf34b67b50c9c1d51@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <29744971.511200507061720.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> I move for that this topic has been beaten enough and should therefor die From pablo.floss at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 18:33:00 2008 From: pablo.floss at gmail.com (Pablo Barrera) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:33:00 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: <29744971.511200507061720.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> References: <46d0f200801161009v1f24e9dcjf34b67b50c9c1d51@mail.gmail.com> <29744971.511200507061720.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> Message-ID: <46d0f200801161033s3325aactce5bb34b357a3ffd@mail.gmail.com> Yes, it seems that we dont have the maturity to solve a problem deeply... For my own, I will keep on working on Fedora on my country, at least this year. Afterwards the main important thing today for me, is what can i do for freedom in my region. Best regards P. 2008/1/16, Ben Williams : > > I move for that this topic has been beaten enough and should therefor die > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Pablo Barrera -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From guillermo.gomez at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 19:16:32 2008 From: guillermo.gomez at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Guillermo_G=F3mez_=28Gomix=29=22?=) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:16:32 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: <1200505971.15044.48.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> References: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> <1200505971.15044.48.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> Message-ID: <478E5810.4050602@gmail.com> Andreas Rau wrote: >> FAmSCo is not Europe. FAmSCo is You. >> >> FAmSCo is made by people voted by people, people who came from all the >> World, moreover, each ambassador could nominate himself/herself and >> could be a FAmSCo member. So i don't understand why you say FAmSCo is >> looking only at Europe. >> >> We were chosen by Ambassadors and we will work for everyone, it >> doesn't matter the place where they live, their language: for FAmSCo >> each ambassador is important. >> >> Regards >> >> Francesco Ugolini >> >> >> Dear friends Im back, and just want to drop some thoughts after reading a lot of emails in the list, and after voting :) If we focus on stronger communities, how are the weak ones are going to progress? Imho, stronger communities should focus on weak ones to get them stronger. Are we just helping RH to do more money on more profitable countries or are we really caring on building a global floss community? I believe in Fedora as a commitment from both sides, enterprise and community. Im not very active in the list, but im always doing my job promoting Fedora and Rodrigo was the only famsco i recall who really cares about our activities consistently, thanks Rodrigo. I really felt FAMSCO (2007) in the past has no major role helping us in almost any way and facts are that we must compete against stronger communities for resources and attention in an unfair conditions which most of the times i tried in the past just lead to nowhere but deception so we had to turn our heads to ourselves and just forgot about FAMSCO and move on, then we made our own progresses. Some people would say the expend their own money and time to promote Fedora and related activities, why they dont think that some other people on other places all over the world just cant do that? Why they dont think their social/work/living conditions are absolutely different and that their opportunities and resources are so not comparable? Making a global community from that starting point would have no sense if we dont understand that and that we must compensate to promote fairness, and as far of results, it looks like to me, that ambassador project is out of tracks and that all of us should talk about that and promotes a better Famsco, good luck and congrats and best wishes to all new Famscos, u all have my support and my honesty. I hope to have a better motivation to participate regularly Guillermo G?mez Fedora Ambassador Caracas/Venezuela From jaboutboul at speakeasy.net Wed Jan 16 18:56:15 2008 From: jaboutboul at speakeasy.net (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:56:15 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: <29744971.511200507061720.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> References: <29744971.511200507061720.JavaMail.root@zimbra.cbccgroup.com> Message-ID: <1200509775.25286.190.camel@deepfort> On Wed, 2008-01-16 at 18:11 +0000, Ben Williams wrote: > I move for that this topic has been beaten enough and should therefor die +Infinity.... From fab at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 16 21:36:12 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:36:12 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors Meeting EMEA - IRC Log 2008-01-16 Message-ID: <478E78CC.8000306@fedoraproject.org> it's time...let's have monthly Fedora Ambassadors Meeting for EMEA we need dramatic music or something... sure... ;-) lol so let the music play :) Please state your wiki name please (aka roll call). GeroldKassube JoergSimon BenLewis FabianAffolter JonathanDieter SandroMathys RobertScheck NihedMbarek JensKuehnel PierreYvesChibon FrancescoCrippa AndreasRau FrancescoUgolini: BartCouvreur (somewhat) ThomasCanniot Just a reminder. We'll still follow our meeting protocol to make this meeting quick and efficient. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol Now, please open our meeting page at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-01-16f or the agenda if you like sorry, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-01-16 Report current status of FAmSCo I guess that most ambassadors already know that the FAmSCo election is over The members are RodrigoPadula, ThomasCanniot, FrancescoUgolini, FabianAffolter, JeffreyTadlock, AndreasRau, and JohnBabich FrancescoUgolini will be the chair. FabianAffolter the vice-chair. ? GeroldKa How many votes are for each nomination? Is it public? ! because I mentioned the FAMSCo has a "problem" with this election as you can read in the ML eof yes, http://fabaff.blogspot.com/2008/01/famsco-election-of-chair.html let me search the announcement. maybe fugolini knows where it is mhh ? fugolini What kind of problem? (do you refear to Bob mail?) eof GeroldKa: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-January/msg00038.html - that? no that URL which fabian_a postet and with problem I think Bobs mail ! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings/2008-01-12 kital i dont think this is the place to discuss this bob thing eof ! fugolini Chiheb Chabchoub I think it refers to Rodrigo absence, but, as Bob know we decided to hold the meeting on saturday but Fedora Board reviewed the election and officialized this so i think it seriously impossible that there was something wrong but i agree with Kital ! eof EvilBob not at all, my problem was with you personally, besides it is much better to discuss it behind closed doors and out of the public eye... same old ambassadors BS, it is not a problem. EOF ZiedFakhfakh ? thanks for your input EvilBob GeroldKa excuse my bad english EvilBob; does BS stand for BullShit? GeroldKa: +1 thanks, eof By the way, thanks to everybody who have voted. Unfortunately only 24% of all ambassadors did it. Anything else about FAmSCo? no, next topic: Ambassadors Membership As of 2008-01-15, 292 Ambassadors have been verified (signed CLA and joined 'ambassadors' group). There is a FAmSCo proposal of cleaning-up the the list. Chitlesh made a first start in 2006 and maybe we are going to continue. ? ? tc1415 then GeroldKa What do you mean by 'cleaning up'? does that refer to unverified ambassadors, or something else? what do you mean with "cleaning up"? Is it the "active vs. inactive" discussion? eof oh, eof ? people who haven't sign the CLA or not join the ambassador group ? no, "active vs. inactive" it's about to clean-up the list and delete the people which invalid e-mail-addresses and so on +1 to that if they want really join us, they can we don't ban then or something like this pingou_laptop +1 you've answered my question by that time... eof rsc In the past, such a wiki cleanup was just crap. Are there really so many ambassadors, that have invalid e-mail addresses etc? I don't see any big effort from that work, sorry / EOF we will see ;-) Anything else about that? ? tc1415 Occaisionally in the wiki there are references to a probationary period, what is the current take on this, and is there a list of Ambassadors in it or out of it? eof no, there is no list. tchung is handling the membership and he is in charge about that issue ok now events Please open Fedora Events http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents please As you can see are there 4 European events in the next few months. Linux Solutions at Paris, FOSDEM at Brussels, Chemnitzer LinuxTage at Chemnitz, and OpenExpo at Bern. First Linux Solutions? ! MrTom Well everything is getting ready slowly as usual. But we are ready and will have 8 ambassadors on the booth, which is huge :) i'm only waiting for DVD from GeroldKa / Max and everything will be perfect eof thanks, MrTom FOSDEM? For me, accommodation is still an issue +1 ! MrTom there are very cheap hotel in the suburb of brussels, where I will spend the night with other French Ambassadors ! it is about 30? for a room of 3 people so about 10? / person ! It is really a hotel, the only thing is that the loo and shower are at the end of the corrifor but washed automatically when you leave the place eof pingou_laptop Just to know, when are you coming ? when would it be nice to be there ? friday or saturday ? eof ok, we discuss this later GeroldKa it`s also a pitty that we can`t stay all together, but OK, it depends on every portmonaie. But in my eyes THIS is an issue which must be solved by the organising Ambassador I feel unlike if I see, how welcome I relly be thats all eof Chemnitzer LinuxTage? soll ich ? kital ok today i received our approval for a booth Ambassadors are JoergSimon, RobertScheck, JensKuehnel and a last chance for Daniel Kretschmer i will get a olpc from rh munich - maybe we have banners get 100 dvd?s from gerold ! don?t know if there are also shirts in the box eof thanks, kital GeroldKa I talked this afternoon with BruderTux and he trys to get a OLPC for the EMEA Ambassadors from JanWildeboer but he needs his next week for an event BruderTux he will inform kital later on, when he kwnos exactly when the OLPC is in Stuttgart :-) eof *bg* BruderTux == FlorianBrand thanks, guys the last one OpenExpo Booth has been confirmed and we are enough people to handle the booth. Till now, we have no media and no swag. The plan was to use media from the same order as for the other European events. Posters are ready and we will get banners, too. Is there anyone who would like to discuss another up-coming event or report a past event? ! ! ! fcrippa, then rivrandi1 there's also a event based in Italy my first ?official? fedora ambassador event ;-) Lolug (a week ago) ask me to do a speech about fedora and fedora project I'd like to invite other ambassadors from Italy (maybe from north of Italy), or forward invitation through various local lug mailing lists tomorrow I'll send an email to fedora-ambassadors ml with event details and I'll start process to request dvds and so on... ? eof thanks, fcrippa rivrandi1 Has been resolved. EOF MrTom could you share the sources of your banners and posters please ? eof there are some sources: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Posters, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/StatisticsPoster, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FabianAffolter/Event-Stuff GeroldKa fcrippa, when and where is that event? [maybe] I have to plan a journey to Cassano, Verona and Parma. How far away from one of this towns? eof GeroldKa: Lodi, 19th of February Lodi is far about 40 Km from Parma for me is not a problem to pick you up around this places and get you to Lodi ! oef fugolini Thank you. I have to see if i have some exams, if i will be avaiable i will send you an email. fugolini, eof? If you send me a pm i will talk with you there eof next Status of the NPO Perhaps GeroldKa or kanarip will tell us something about the status of the European NPO. sorry same status as last year :-( thanks, GeroldKa unfortunately the german departments haven't answered yet Now the stage is open...anything else? Any more questions or issues before we close this meeting? ! zydoon I'am from Tunisia it might be offtopic, but important today I was invited in our Ministery odf Justice to my surprise they want to migrate totally to linux with a small pb they have a couple of old VB apps bundled with Cristal reports staff is there any succefull experience ? to that ? ! GeroldKa Please go ahead to contact NayyardAhmed he has done such a job in Mosambique last year good to know* I'm really sure he is willing to help and it was also a Ministry eof thx eof ! tc1415 In the agenda there is an entry about social networks, do we want to discuss that now? fcrippa, something about the social networks just a report about last activities on social networks when I proposed linkedin group I had two goals 1)increase fedora visibility under some "very used social networks" (linked and flickr in particular...) Announcement from my owner (mmcgrath): A major part of this upgrade / outage cycle is about to begin. Many systems will be up and down over the next 15-20 minutes. 2) discover how many ?fedora enthusiasts? are over social networks and how many of these read fedora-ambassadors and fedora-mkrt mailing list for linkedin this is the statistics: if you search ?fedora? you can find about 450 people but only 35 are subscribed to fedora group (for the moment we have 3 managers: FrancescoCrippa, PascalCalarco and JonStanley) ! what do you think about these activities? +1 Is it better to try to promote fedora logo under social networks or could be better to hide so low crowded networks until we will much more numerous? oef imho, they are an important facet of our community side <|zeus|> enthusiasm and marketing it's different thing, IMHO +1 fwiw, the statistics for Facebook are: the Fedora Ambassadors group has 4 members; the Fedora Rocks group has: 636members, the Fedora Users group 234 and the Fedora -Linux group 71 ! <|zeus|> i'm working on fedora advance in russian social networks, but i'm read [fedora-mktg] for a different reason :) <|zeus|> for example |zeus|, please follow the protocol <|zeus|> sorry i guess it would be a good idea to add the statistics to the wiki page ! as an overview +1 fcrippa in facebook you can looking for a group, but in linkedin you have to receive right link from a "marketing" people or read link from fedora wiki some social network require "active" approach eof tc1415 I justed wanted to invite any and all Ambassadors who are on Facebook to joint he Fedora Ambassadors group, since I'm sure there are more than 4 eof anything else for today? ! fcrippa ! what do you think about opportunity to invite some "VIPs"? (like JimWhitehurst or other important people in fedora... max, paul, etc...) eof +1 nihed tc1415, do you have a link of the group on Facebook thank you eof nihed: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8344782027 are we done? +1 5 4 3 2 ! kital ! Can stay the german ambs stay behind? good night everybody Coordinating the drive to Fosdem one more thing - alan cox will come to open expo eof gesehen good night :) Fedora Ambassadors Meeting EMEA 2008-01-16 has been adjourned. Next meeting in February 2008. From fab at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 16 22:27:09 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:27:09 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors Meeting EMEA - IRC Summary 2008-01-16 Message-ID: <478E84BD.5080006@fedoraproject.org> FAmSCo FAmSCo election is over. he members are RodrigoPadula, ThomasCanniot, FrancescoUgolini, FabianAffolter, JeffreyTadlock, AndreasRau, and JohnBabich. FrancescoUgolini will be the chair. FabianAffolter will be the vice-chair. Refer to this page if you want do know about the votes http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings/2008-01-12 Ambassadors Membership 2008-01-15, 292 Ambassadors have been verified (signed CLA and joined 'ambassadors' group). There is a FAmSCo proposal of cleaning-up the the list. Chitlesh made a first start in 2006 and maybe we are going to continue. It's not a about "active vs. inactive", only about to delete very old request for being an ambdassador There is no list about the probationary period of ambassadors. Events Linux Solutions at Paris Everything is getting ready slowly as usual. But they are ready and will have 8 ambassadors on the booth, which is huge. They are only waiting for DVD from GeroldKa / Max and everything will be perfect. FOSDEM There are very cheap hotel in the suburb of Brussels, where MrTom will spend the night with other French Ambassadors. It's also a pitty that we can't stay all together, but OK, it depends on every portmonnaie. But in my eyes THIS is an issue which must be solved by the organizing Ambassadors. Chemnitzer LinuxTage 2008 They received our approval for a booth. Ambassadors are JoergSimon, RobertScheck, JensKuehnel and a last chance for DanielKretschmer. They will get a OLPC from RH Munich. They have banners and will get 100 DVDs from GeroldKa. GeroldKa talked this afternoon with FlorianBrand and he trys to get a OLPC for the EMEA Ambassadors from JanWildeboer but he needs his next week for an event. FlorianBrand will inform kital later on, when he kwnos exactly when the OLPC is in Stuttgart. OpenExpo Booth has been confirmed and we are enough people to handle the booth. Till now, we have no media and no swag. The plan was to use media from the same order as for the other European events. Posters are ready and we will get banners, too. AlanCox will be there. Lolug Pillole Lolug (a week ago) ask him to do a speech about fedora and fedora project. He would like to invite other ambassadors from Italy (maybe from north of Italy), or forward invitation through various local lug mailing lists. He will send an email to fedora-ambassadors ml with event details and I'll start process to request dvds and so on... NPO Same status as last year :-) Unfortunately the german departments haven't answered yet. Social networks 1) increase fedora visibility under some "very used social networks" (linked and flickr in particular...) 2) discover how many ?fedora enthusiasts? are over social networks and how many of these read fedora-ambassadors and fedora-mkrt mailing list Linkedin If you search ?fedora? you can find about 450 people but only 35 are subscribed to fedora group. for the moment we have 3 managers: FrancescoCrippa, PascalCalarco and JonStanley Facebook the Fedora Ambassadors group has 4 members; the Fedora Rocks group has: 636members, the Fedora Users group 234 and the Fedora-Linux group 71 Invitation of "VIPs" (like JimWhitehurst or other important people in fedora...Max, Paul, etc...) Next meeting (so far) 2008-02-13 - 20.00 UTC From kwade at redhat.com Wed Jan 16 23:28:00 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:28:00 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: <1200429109.3536.16.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> References: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> <1200429109.3536.16.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: <1200526080.920.22.camel@calliope.phig.org> On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 21:31 +0100, Gerold Kassube wrote: > ... EVERYBODY, every Ambassador in this world > has got MORE than 4 (I'm not sure but I think it were SIX) damned weeks > to selfnominate himself and the courage to tell every of this wonderful > over 200 Ambassador why they should vote him! This has been pointed out to me in the past -- every culture handles the idea of self promotion differently. For some cultures, stepping forward from the crowd to promote yourself as a leader is very hard. For other cultures, it is common to promote yourself as a leader. The kind of voting/democracy that we use in Fedora is derived from a Western history and culture. We need to keep that in mind. What we require of people in order to get into a position of leadership may not be appropriate in their culture. No easy solutions, unfortunately ... - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From inode0 at gmail.com Thu Jan 17 00:15:56 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:15:56 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: <1200526080.920.22.camel@calliope.phig.org> References: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> <1200429109.3536.16.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1200526080.920.22.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: 2008/1/16 Karsten 'quaid' Wade : > This has been pointed out to me in the past -- every culture handles the > idea of self promotion differently. For some cultures, stepping forward > from the crowd to promote yourself as a leader is very hard. For other > cultures, it is common to promote yourself as a leader. > > The kind of voting/democracy that we use in Fedora is derived from a > Western history and culture. We need to keep that in mind. What we > require of people in order to get into a position of leadership may not > be appropriate in their culture. > > No easy solutions, unfortunately ... As a newish member of the ambassador group I resisted comment on this when the elections were held. But now that it is on the table I will say that the western country I come from seriously frowned on this for elections when the government was formed. The idea that people of high character would engage in such self-promotion was not the prevailing wisdom of the day. Things evolved into that mechanism over time but I'm not at all sure it is an example of evolution at its best. I'm one westerner who would be very happy if there at least existed a mechanism by which the community could nominate worthy contributors who might be too uncomfortable about engaging in self-promotion. It seems to me that the worst thing that could happen is that a person nominated by others could graciously decline and walk away having been flattered by a community that just expressed its appreciation of their efforts and its confidence in them. John From marketing-list at fedoralinks.org Thu Jan 17 01:31:42 2008 From: marketing-list at fedoralinks.org (Robert 'Bob' Jensen) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:31:42 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> References: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> Message-ID: <478EAFFE.4000100@fedoralinks.org> Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > I have made a choice to resign from the Fedora Ambassadors project for a > couple reasons. First I do not feel that all ambassadors will be equally > represented by FAMSCo and its choice of leadership. Second now is the > time to begin rebuilding the Fedora Marketing Project in to what > Ambassadors could have been. I wish all the ambassadors that are not in > Europe or the EMEA area the best of luck you are going to need it in the > coming year. > > For those ambassadors that are in the EMEA "think globally and act > locally" the choices you are making now will impact everyone in the future. > > Robert 'Bob' Jensen > Former Fedora Ambassador, Former FAMSCo > I just read the archives, I unsubscribed from the list, but this is awesome, finally got some discussion going about the state of ambassadors affairs. Based on what I read some of you must be feeling guilty to make some of the assumptions you did about my resignation. First those of you who wished me ill, shame on you and your house. Second I seem to have not been clear in what I was trying to say so I will say it again in greater detail. "I do not feel that all ambassadors will be equally represented by FAMSCo and its choice of leadership." The FAMSCo chair election did not even include the ambassador that had the popular vote, this smells to me. I have disagreed with some of FUgolini's ideas in the past so this makes his appointment smart even more. This choice of leadership is not enough for me to leave alone, I feel my time and resources are better used elsewhere. As far as FAMSCo as a whole goes all of the people I voted for were elected. "Second now is the time to begin rebuilding the Fedora Marketing Project in to what Ambassadors could have been." The Ambassadors project and the short lived idea that came before it took a lot of wind out of the marketing sails along with some people leaving Fedora. I am hoping we can regain some of that momentum in fedora Marketing to provide the community and ambassadors with the best possible resources and materials. "I wish all the ambassadors that are not in Europe or the EMEA area the best of luck you are going to need it in the coming year", You have a long way to go to catch up with the team work and effectiveness that the EMEA Ambassadors have reached. "For those ambassadors that are in the EMEA 'think globally and act locally' the choices you are making now will impact everyone in the future." Separating yourselves from those in less capable areas that have even fewer resources and ambassadors would be very bad for Ambassadors as a whole. If one of you fail you all fail. Robert 'Bob' Jensen Former Fedora Ambassador, Former FAMSCo From fusion94 at gmail.com Thu Jan 17 01:38:46 2008 From: fusion94 at gmail.com (Tony Guntharp) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:38:46 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: <478EAFFE.4000100@fedoralinks.org> References: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> <478EAFFE.4000100@fedoralinks.org> Message-ID: <78f7d5500801161738r49335402xdf3c115dc684fa40@mail.gmail.com> Well with Francesco as chair I'm sure he can push through his earlier proposal for inactive ambassadors. -t On Jan 16, 2008 5:31 PM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > > I have made a choice to resign from the Fedora Ambassadors project for a > > couple reasons. First I do not feel that all ambassadors will be equally > > represented by FAMSCo and its choice of leadership. Second now is the > > time to begin rebuilding the Fedora Marketing Project in to what > > Ambassadors could have been. I wish all the ambassadors that are not in > > Europe or the EMEA area the best of luck you are going to need it in the > > coming year. > > > > For those ambassadors that are in the EMEA "think globally and act > > locally" the choices you are making now will impact everyone in the future. > > > > Robert 'Bob' Jensen > > Former Fedora Ambassador, Former FAMSCo > > > > I just read the archives, I unsubscribed from the list, but this is > awesome, finally got some discussion going about the state of > ambassadors affairs. Based on what I read some of you must be feeling > guilty to make some of the assumptions you did about my resignation. > > First those of you who wished me ill, shame on you and your house. > > Second I seem to have not been clear in what I was trying to say so I > will say it again in greater detail. > > "I do not feel that all ambassadors will be equally represented by > FAMSCo and its choice of leadership." The FAMSCo chair election did not > even include the ambassador that had the popular vote, this smells to > me. I have disagreed with some of FUgolini's ideas in the past so this > makes his appointment smart even more. This choice of leadership is not > enough for me to leave alone, I feel my time and resources are better > used elsewhere. As far as FAMSCo as a whole goes all of the people I > voted for were elected. "Second now is the time to begin rebuilding the > Fedora Marketing Project in to what Ambassadors could have been." The > Ambassadors project and the short lived idea that came before it took a > lot of wind out of the marketing sails along with some people leaving > Fedora. I am hoping we can regain some of that momentum in fedora > Marketing to provide the community and ambassadors with the best > possible resources and materials. > > "I wish all the ambassadors that are not in Europe or the EMEA area the > best of luck you are going to need it in the coming year", You have a > long way to go to catch up with the team work and effectiveness that the > EMEA Ambassadors have reached. > > "For those ambassadors that are in the EMEA 'think globally and act > locally' the choices you are making now will impact everyone in the > future." Separating yourselves from those in less capable areas that > have even fewer resources and ambassadors would be very bad for > Ambassadors as a whole. If one of you fail you all fail. > > > Robert 'Bob' Jensen > Former Fedora Ambassador, Former FAMSCo > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Tony Guntharp Co-Founder SourceForge.net fusion94 at gmail.com From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Jan 17 01:37:56 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:37:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Resignation from the Ambassadors project. In-Reply-To: <478EAFFE.4000100@fedoralinks.org> References: <478D0BAE.508@fedoralinks.org> <478EAFFE.4000100@fedoralinks.org> Message-ID: We're going to work to improve *everything* related to Ambassadors and Marketing in Fedora-land. I hope that when my new job is finalized, I will be able to devote a big chunk of my time to that. We are planning on a *GLOBAL* Ambassadors and marketing effort in the coming year, with a stronger presence than ever before in all regions around the world. Budget requests are being worked out. Leaders are going to be needed all over the world, and Red Hat is going to see to it that every region gets *something*. So I beg you all... let's tone the heat down a little bit, give stuff a chance to settle out over the next little while, and we'll put together an entire plan for the year, and we'll do it in public. Let's just all step back, lick our wounds, and let this thread die. --Max On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > I just read the archives, I unsubscribed from the list, but this is awesome, > finally got some discussion going about the state of ambassadors affairs. > Based on what I read some of you must be feeling guilty to make some of the > assumptions you did about my resignation. > > First those of you who wished me ill, shame on you and your house. > > Second I seem to have not been clear in what I was trying to say so I will > say it again in greater detail. > > "I do not feel that all ambassadors will be equally represented by FAMSCo and > its choice of leadership." The FAMSCo chair election did not even include the > ambassador that had the popular vote, this smells to me. I have disagreed > with some of FUgolini's ideas in the past so this makes his appointment smart > even more. This choice of leadership is not enough for me to leave alone, I > feel my time and resources are better used elsewhere. As far as FAMSCo as a > whole goes all of the people I voted for were elected. "Second now is the > time to begin rebuilding the Fedora Marketing Project in to what Ambassadors > could have been." The Ambassadors project and the short lived idea that came > before it took a lot of wind out of the marketing sails along with some > people leaving Fedora. I am hoping we can regain some of that momentum in > fedora Marketing to provide the community and ambassadors with the best > possible resources and materials. > > "I wish all the ambassadors that are not in Europe or the EMEA area the best > of luck you are going to need it in the coming year", You have a long way to > go to catch up with the team work and effectiveness that the EMEA Ambassadors > have reached. > > "For those ambassadors that are in the EMEA 'think globally and act locally' > the choices you are making now will impact everyone in the future." > Separating yourselves from those in less capable areas that have even fewer > resources and ambassadors would be very bad for Ambassadors as a whole. If > one of you fail you all fail. > > Robert 'Bob' Jensen > Former Fedora Ambassador, Former FAMSCo > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From tcallawa at redhat.com Thu Jan 17 16:16:35 2008 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:16:35 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Florida Ambassadors Message-ID: <1200586595.3022.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> If there are any North Florida Ambassadors (or folks for whom Jacksonville would be a day trip), please contact me off-list. Thanks, ~spot From fcrippa at byte-code.com Thu Jan 17 19:04:35 2008 From: fcrippa at byte-code.com (Francesco Crippa) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:04:35 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Lolug Pillole In-Reply-To: <210074587.1701200596540697.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <760275777.1721200596675945.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Dear *, next February there's a "Fedora Event" in Italy. "Lolug Pillole" is a periodic event with a different topic every time. Lolug (Lodi LUG) ask me to organize an evening closed to Fedora. Every ambassadors interested can contact me and organize event all together. I hope Italian ambassadors will help me to pass event announce through different local-lug mailing list (especially for the north Italy area) Details soon on the wiki... Take care bye Francesco From amrossi at linux.it Thu Jan 17 21:21:48 2008 From: amrossi at linux.it (amrossi at linux.it) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:21:48 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Lolug Pillole In-Reply-To: <760275777.1721200596675945.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <760275777.1721200596675945.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <57532.79.17.149.94.1200604908.squirrel@picard.linux.it> Hi all, I live in Pavia, near Lodi. I'm with you Francesco :-) bye, Andrea Modesto Rossi > Dear *, > > next February there's a "Fedora Event" in Italy. > > "Lolug Pillole" is a periodic event with a different topic every time. > Lolug (Lodi LUG) ask me to organize an evening closed to Fedora. > > Every ambassadors interested can contact me and organize event all > together. I hope Italian ambassadors will help me to pass event announce > through different local-lug mailing list (especially for the north Italy > area) > > Details soon on the wiki... > > Take care > bye > > Francesco > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From linux at elfshadow.net Fri Jan 18 01:36:26 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:36:26 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] N. and S. America Ambassador Meeting IRC Log 2008-01-17 Message-ID: <10e0a9b00801171736o3bbe4606g729a6e9513ee1bbd@mail.gmail.com> Here is the IRC meeting log from today: 14:03 < pcalarco> PascalCalarco 14:03 < rMenezes> RodrigoMenezes 14:03 -!- snecklifter [n=snecklif at cpc1-hudd1-0-0-cust526.hudd.cable.ntl.com] has left #fedora-meeting ["Leaving"] 14:03 < jds2001> JonStanley 14:03 * jds2001 will be in and out 14:04 -!- roccofrank|w [n=farnold at 165.204.76.244] has left #fedora-meeting ["Verlassend"] 14:04 < JuanCarlosLin> Ok.. only have 4 of us, can we waite 5 minutes? 14:04 < rMenezes> +1 14:04 < pcalarco> +1 14:04 < inode0> greetings from the midwest US 14:04 -!- notting [n=notting at redhat/notting] has left #fedora-meeting ["Ex-Chat"] 14:05 < JuanCarlosLin> hi inode0, please state your name 14:05 < inode0> JohnRose 14:05 < JuanCarlosLin> we will wait 5 minutes to start.. 14:07 < pcalarco> we need a minimum of 7 to hold a meeting? 14:08 < pcalarco> PascalCalarco 14:08 < JuanCarlosLin> yes 14:09 -!- JSchmitt [n=s4504kr at fedora/JSchmitt] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 14:09 < JuanCarlosLin> but any way, will try to set meeting schedule 14:09 < jds2001> where is the agenda, BTW? 14:09 < JuanCarlosLin> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-01-17 14:10 < JuanCarlosLin> Ok... please state your names again 14:10 < jds2001> JonStanley 14:10 < rMenezes> RodrigoMenezes 14:10 < inode0> JohnRose 14:10 < pcalarco> PascalCalarco 14:11 < JuanCarlosLin> well we are 5, but let start any way. 14:11 < JuanCarlosLin> first item, fedora events... 14:11 < JuanCarlosLin> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents 14:12 < JuanCarlosLin> there is someone with new in events? 14:12 < pcalarco> ! 14:12 < JuanCarlosLin> pcalarco 14:12 < juank_prada> hi, im new fedora ambassador i just knew about today meeting 14:13 < pcalarco> I have a barcamp in Indianapolis, IN in a few weeks 14:13 < pcalarco> not sure if ppl will want to talk about Fedora, but I will suggest it as a topic 14:13 < rMenezes> ! 14:13 < pcalarco> I can take care of media, as there is only 20 of us 14:13 < JuanCarlosLin> rMenezes 14:14 < jds2001> JuanCarlosLin: there is a barcamp in NYC in march 14:14 < jds2001> i will cover that. 14:14 < pcalarco> eof 14:14 < inode0> I'm giving a presentation in two weeks on the OLPC project at a large university ... will be plugging Fedora while I do that 14:14 < rMenezes> ok, Brazil, the newest big event here will be FISL in april 14:15 < rMenezes> we produced the live CDs and DVDs locally 14:15 < rMenezes> and requested 5 lectures, a both and a comunity event 14:15 < rMenezes> waiting approvals from the event 14:15 < JuanCarlosLin> rmenezes eof? 14:15 < rMenezes> this mounth is vacation in local Colleges, so everyone is waiting to restart the meetings with students 14:15 < rMenezes> eof 14:16 < rMenezes> *month 14:16 < rMenezes> sorry 14:16 < JuanCarlosLin> ok., jds2001, please update your event information on site 14:17 < jds2001> sure thing. 14:17 < JuanCarlosLin> rmenezes, I have planning produce 3000 CD/DVD for Rodrigo Padula BRazil, I can send to you also a few ones 14:17 < rMenezes> ok, thanks 14:18 < rMenezes> I'll send you my address through e-mail, ok? 14:18 < JuanCarlosLin> I offer this to all of you, just ask and wait for programation amiling 14:18 < JuanCarlosLin> yes, please 14:18 < JuanCarlosLin> well, this poit is covered. 14:18 < JuanCarlosLin> let go to the second item 14:19 < JuanCarlosLin> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff/Tracker 14:19 < juank_prada> ? 14:19 < JuanCarlosLin> I see there is no pending material asking for america 14:19 < JuanCarlosLin> juank_prada, please state your name 14:19 < juank_prada> JuanCamiloPrada 14:20 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, can speak 14:20 < juank_prada> im new as an ambassador, and im planning on an event on my university 14:20 < juank_prada> but im not sure what kind of material should i take to that activity 14:21 < jds2001> what sort of activity? 14:21 < juank_prada> the event is suppose to be about FOSS in genera, and i want to talk about fedora promting the project 14:21 < JuanCarlosLin> well, there is presentations on site, and also is a good idea distribute copies of CD/DVD 14:21 < JuanCarlosLin> jds2001, can you help? 14:22 < rMenezes> where can I find presentations for Fedora 8 14:22 < rMenezes> ? 14:22 * jds2001 is busy with other projects in fedora, stretched kinda thin right now 14:23 < inode0> rMenezes: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations is a place to start 14:23 < juank_prada> inode0: thanks it helps me too 14:23 < rMenezes> there is nothing directly about version 8 14:23 < jds2001> although if any of you wanna help me out, we'll be launching within a month hopefully :) 14:24 < JuanCarlosLin> ok... juank_prada, when define the date, can ask any of us to help 14:24 < inode0> an opportunity then to prepare one and share it with the community 14:24 < JuanCarlosLin> ok... lets go to the secondo point 14:24 < juank_prada> JuanCarlosLin: thanks, the date will be defined hopefully next week 14:24 < jds2001> i may be able to help some there. emphasize how we contirbute upstream 14:24 < JuanCarlosLin> any one have pending materialr orders? 14:24 < jds2001> and maybe features that made it to F8 14:25 < jds2001> yeah, i'll need some for the nyc barcamp. not sure exactly what/how much. 14:25 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, i see no pending order for america. 14:25 < JuanCarlosLin> lets go to the nex item 14:26 < JuanCarlosLin> ther is some amabassador need verification yet? 14:27 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, no abassador to verify? 14:27 < pcalarco> I do not think so 14:27 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, let go to the last item, meeting schedule 14:27 < JuanCarlosLin> I will like to hear form youthe best day, and time to meeting 14:27 < jds2001> evenings EST are better for me. 14:28 < JuanCarlosLin> UTC time? 14:28 < jds2001> 23:00? 14:28 < pcalarco> 01:00 UTC maybe? 14:29 < jds2001> that's good too. 14:29 < rMenezes> for me is any work day at 20:00 UTC 14:29 < JuanCarlosLin> any one more? 14:29 < inode0> I can be flexible but evenings preferred 14:29 < juank_prada> any time is ok by me as i spent all day in front of a pc 14:30 < pcalarco> I can do 20:00 UTC too on Mondays or Fridays is best 14:30 < pcalarco> or evenings of course 14:30 < pcalarco> eof 14:30 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, the time I set was 19:00 UTC, how about change it to 20:00 UTC to aproch 14:31 < pcalarco> +1 14:31 < juank_prada> +1 14:31 < rMenezes> +1 14:31 < jds2001> +1 14:31 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, it will be 20:00 UTC 14:32 < JuanCarlosLin> and the day? wich better 14:32 < inode0> not tuesday 14:32 < juank_prada> monday? 14:32 < pcalarco> Monday +1 14:32 < rMenezes> Monday +1 14:33 < JuanCarlosLin> jsd2001? 14:33 < jds2001> +1 14:33 < inode0> we'll have one thing to look forward to on Monday! 14:33 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, on monday 14:33 < rMenezes> ! 14:33 < JuanCarlosLin> rmenezes 14:33 < rMenezes> the meetings will be every week? 14:34 < JuanCarlosLin> that the next point 14:34 < JuanCarlosLin> about the frecuency, is good 15 or 30 days, 14:34 -!- vonbrand_ [n=vonbrand at laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl] has joined #fedora-meeting 14:34 < JuanCarlosLin> how about you? 14:34 < inode0> etiher fine with me 14:35 < jds2001> 30 days +1 14:35 < pcalarco> if we have enough to work on, biweekly but otherwise monthly 14:35 < rMenezes> for me 30 days is fine 14:35 < juank_prada> 30 days is ok 14:35 < pcalarco> monthly +1 14:35 < JuanCarlosLin> lets vote monthly 14:36 < jds2001> well i agree with pcalarco too - if monthly gets us to too much of a backlog, then let's go biweekly 14:36 < jds2001> but start with monthly 14:36 < jds2001> so +1 14:36 < inode0> so something like the 1st Monday each month? 14:36 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, the the future meeting is: monday, 20:00 UTC, 2008-02-18 14:37 < JuanCarlosLin> can be considered the 1st monday, wil be easier to remind 14:37 < rMenezes> 1st monday, +1 14:37 < inode0> that is what I was thinking 14:37 < JuanCarlosLin> how about inode0 idea? 14:37 < pcalarco> +1 14:37 < jds2001> +1 for first monday 14:37 < juank_prada> +1 first monday 14:38 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, next meeting, monday 2008-02-04, 20:00 UTC 14:38 < rMenezes> In Brazil, 04 feb will be carnival, :) 14:38 < rMenezes> I'll be here 14:38 < rMenezes> I promisse, lol 14:38 < JuanCarlosLin> Ok, anyway, the e-mail can keep us in touch 14:39 < JuanCarlosLin> please add your topic to discuse for next meeting when the page is created. 14:39 < jds2001> heh i could be in class 04-feb (RH401) if everything goes well. 14:39 < JuanCarlosLin> so, no more points to discuse, and the meeting is end. 14:40 < pcalarco> I have a conflict 2/4 but this is okay generally 14:40 < JuanCarlosLin> thanks your everyone... 14:40 < inode0> nice to meet everyone 14:40 < JuanCarlosLin> now can freely talk 14:40 < vonbrand_> Is there a transcript? This meeting collided with another one... and it's the first for me 14:40 < rMenezes> who has a presentation for FC8? about new features? 14:40 < pcalarco> has much work been done on the EventKit? I see that it is past due 14:41 < pcalarco> I will probably work on an F8 presentation for my barcamp; perhaps a few of us could collaborate 14:42 < juank_prada> i will join too as i need a presentation for this event on my university 14:42 < rMenezes> ok, just update you presentation in wiki when you have done 14:42 < rMenezes> I need some for february 14:42 -!- JuanCarlosLin [n=lin at gateway.dr-hank.com.py] has quit ["Saliendo"] 14:43 < pcalarco> my event is 2008-02-09 14:44 < pcalarco> I am sure we could find other F8 presentations to start with from past events 14:44 -!- Sparks [n=sparks at fedora/Sparks] has left #fedora-meeting [] 14:45 < pcalarco> perhaps from one of these: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/PastEvents/2007 14:45 -!- vonbrand_ [n=vonbrand at laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl] has left #fedora-meeting ["Leaving"] 14:47 < pcalarco> also, there are some Fedora presentation templates at the very bottom of http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations 14:48 -!- pcalarco [n=pcalarco at adsl-76-208-57-148.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net] has quit [SendQ exceeded] 14:48 -!- pcalarco [n=pcalarco at adsl-76-208-57-148.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 14:51 -!- WB0TRA_work [n=WB0TRA_w at 64.62.46.146] has joined #fedora-meeting 14:54 < pcalarco> exit From pablo.floss at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 02:13:43 2008 From: pablo.floss at gmail.com (Pablo Barrera) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:13:43 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] N. and S. America Ambassador Meeting IRC Log 2008-01-17 In-Reply-To: <10e0a9b00801171736o3bbe4606g729a6e9513ee1bbd@mail.gmail.com> References: <10e0a9b00801171736o3bbe4606g729a6e9513ee1bbd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46d0f200801171813k39814b13w8c2ef99ca373156b@mail.gmail.com> I could not be present, i am studing for my LPI certification, sorry, anyway it seems thats theres no "mainstream" talk about local situation , just information of some activities... Could be useful get join again on saturday 15 GTM 0 Someone interested? Best regards P. 2008/1/17, Jeffrey Tadlock : > > Here is the IRC meeting log from today: > > > 14:03 < pcalarco> PascalCalarco > 14:03 < rMenezes> RodrigoMenezes > 14:03 -!- snecklifter > [n=snecklif at cpc1-hudd1-0-0-cust526.hudd.cable.ntl.com] has left > #fedora-meeting ["Leaving"] > 14:03 < jds2001> JonStanley > 14:03 * jds2001 will be in and out > 14:04 -!- roccofrank|w [n=farnold at 165.204.76.244] has left > #fedora-meeting ["Verlassend"] > 14:04 < JuanCarlosLin> Ok.. only have 4 of us, can we waite 5 minutes? > 14:04 < rMenezes> +1 > 14:04 < pcalarco> +1 > 14:04 < inode0> greetings from the midwest US > 14:04 -!- notting [n=notting at redhat/notting] has left #fedora-meeting > ["Ex-Chat"] > 14:05 < JuanCarlosLin> hi inode0, please state your name > 14:05 < inode0> JohnRose > 14:05 < JuanCarlosLin> we will wait 5 minutes to start.. > 14:07 < pcalarco> we need a minimum of 7 to hold a meeting? > 14:08 < pcalarco> PascalCalarco > 14:08 < JuanCarlosLin> yes > 14:09 -!- JSchmitt [n=s4504kr at fedora/JSchmitt] has quit ["Konversation > terminated!"] > 14:09 < JuanCarlosLin> but any way, will try to set meeting schedule > 14:09 < jds2001> where is the agenda, BTW? > 14:09 < JuanCarlosLin> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-01-17 > 14:10 < JuanCarlosLin> Ok... please state your names again > 14:10 < jds2001> JonStanley > 14:10 < rMenezes> RodrigoMenezes > 14:10 < inode0> JohnRose > 14:10 < pcalarco> PascalCalarco > 14:11 < JuanCarlosLin> well we are 5, but let start any way. > 14:11 < JuanCarlosLin> first item, fedora events... > 14:11 < JuanCarlosLin> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > 14:12 < JuanCarlosLin> there is someone with new in events? > 14:12 < pcalarco> ! > 14:12 < JuanCarlosLin> pcalarco > 14:12 < juank_prada> hi, im new fedora ambassador i just knew about > today meeting > 14:13 < pcalarco> I have a barcamp in Indianapolis, IN in a few weeks > 14:13 < pcalarco> not sure if ppl will want to talk about Fedora, but > I will suggest it as a topic > 14:13 < rMenezes> ! > 14:13 < pcalarco> I can take care of media, as there is only 20 of us > 14:13 < JuanCarlosLin> rMenezes > 14:14 < jds2001> JuanCarlosLin: there is a barcamp in NYC in march > 14:14 < jds2001> i will cover that. > 14:14 < pcalarco> eof > 14:14 < inode0> I'm giving a presentation in two weeks on the OLPC > project at a large university ... will be plugging Fedora while I do > that > 14:14 < rMenezes> ok, Brazil, the newest big event here will be FISL in > april > 14:15 < rMenezes> we produced the live CDs and DVDs locally > 14:15 < rMenezes> and requested 5 lectures, a both and a comunity event > 14:15 < rMenezes> waiting approvals from the event > 14:15 < JuanCarlosLin> rmenezes eof? > 14:15 < rMenezes> this mounth is vacation in local Colleges, so > everyone is waiting to restart the meetings with students > 14:15 < rMenezes> eof > 14:16 < rMenezes> *month > 14:16 < rMenezes> sorry > 14:16 < JuanCarlosLin> ok., jds2001, please update your event > information on site > 14:17 < jds2001> sure thing. > 14:17 < JuanCarlosLin> rmenezes, I have planning produce 3000 CD/DVD > for Rodrigo Padula BRazil, I can send to you also a few ones > 14:17 < rMenezes> ok, thanks > 14:18 < rMenezes> I'll send you my address through e-mail, ok? > 14:18 < JuanCarlosLin> I offer this to all of you, just ask and wait > for programation amiling > 14:18 < JuanCarlosLin> yes, please > 14:18 < JuanCarlosLin> well, this poit is covered. > 14:18 < JuanCarlosLin> let go to the second item > 14:19 < JuanCarlosLin> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff/Tracker > 14:19 < juank_prada> ? > 14:19 < JuanCarlosLin> I see there is no pending material asking > for america > 14:19 < JuanCarlosLin> juank_prada, please state your name > 14:19 < juank_prada> JuanCamiloPrada > 14:20 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, can speak > 14:20 < juank_prada> im new as an ambassador, and im planning on an > event on my university > 14:20 < juank_prada> but im not sure what kind of material should i > take to that activity > 14:21 < jds2001> what sort of activity? > 14:21 < juank_prada> the event is suppose to be about FOSS in genera, > and i want to talk about fedora promting the project > 14:21 < JuanCarlosLin> well, there is presentations on site, and also > is a good idea distribute copies of CD/DVD > 14:21 < JuanCarlosLin> jds2001, can you help? > 14:22 < rMenezes> where can I find presentations for Fedora 8 > 14:22 < rMenezes> ? > 14:22 * jds2001 is busy with other projects in fedora, stretched > kinda thin right now > 14:23 < inode0> rMenezes: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations > is a place to start > 14:23 < juank_prada> inode0: thanks it helps me too > 14:23 < rMenezes> there is nothing directly about version 8 > 14:23 < jds2001> although if any of you wanna help me out, we'll be > launching within a month hopefully :) > 14:24 < JuanCarlosLin> ok... juank_prada, when define the date, can > ask any of us to help > 14:24 < inode0> an opportunity then to prepare one and share it with > the community > 14:24 < JuanCarlosLin> ok... lets go to the secondo point > 14:24 < juank_prada> JuanCarlosLin: thanks, the date will be defined > hopefully next week > 14:24 < jds2001> i may be able to help some there. emphasize how we > contirbute upstream > 14:24 < JuanCarlosLin> any one have pending materialr orders? > 14:24 < jds2001> and maybe features that made it to F8 > 14:25 < jds2001> yeah, i'll need some for the nyc barcamp. not sure > exactly what/how much. > 14:25 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, i see no pending order for america. > 14:25 < JuanCarlosLin> lets go to the nex item > 14:26 < JuanCarlosLin> ther is some amabassador need verification yet? > 14:27 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, no abassador to verify? > 14:27 < pcalarco> I do not think so > 14:27 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, let go to the last item, meeting schedule > 14:27 < JuanCarlosLin> I will like to hear form youthe best day, and > time to meeting > 14:27 < jds2001> evenings EST are better for me. > 14:28 < JuanCarlosLin> UTC time? > 14:28 < jds2001> 23:00? > 14:28 < pcalarco> 01:00 UTC maybe? > 14:29 < jds2001> that's good too. > 14:29 < rMenezes> for me is any work day at 20:00 UTC > 14:29 < JuanCarlosLin> any one more? > 14:29 < inode0> I can be flexible but evenings preferred > 14:29 < juank_prada> any time is ok by me as i spent all day in front of a > pc > 14:30 < pcalarco> I can do 20:00 UTC too on Mondays or Fridays is best > 14:30 < pcalarco> or evenings of course > 14:30 < pcalarco> eof > 14:30 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, the time I set was 19:00 UTC, how about > change it to 20:00 UTC to aproch > 14:31 < pcalarco> +1 > 14:31 < juank_prada> +1 > 14:31 < rMenezes> +1 > 14:31 < jds2001> +1 > 14:31 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, it will be 20:00 UTC > 14:32 < JuanCarlosLin> and the day? wich better > 14:32 < inode0> not tuesday > 14:32 < juank_prada> monday? > 14:32 < pcalarco> Monday +1 > 14:32 < rMenezes> Monday +1 > 14:33 < JuanCarlosLin> jsd2001? > 14:33 < jds2001> +1 > 14:33 < inode0> we'll have one thing to look forward to on Monday! > 14:33 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, on monday > 14:33 < rMenezes> ! > 14:33 < JuanCarlosLin> rmenezes > 14:33 < rMenezes> the meetings will be every week? > 14:34 < JuanCarlosLin> that the next point > 14:34 < JuanCarlosLin> about the frecuency, is good 15 or 30 days, > 14:34 -!- vonbrand_ [n=vonbrand at laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl] has joined > #fedora-meeting > 14:34 < JuanCarlosLin> how about you? > 14:34 < inode0> etiher fine with me > 14:35 < jds2001> 30 days +1 > 14:35 < pcalarco> if we have enough to work on, biweekly but otherwise > monthly > 14:35 < rMenezes> for me 30 days is fine > 14:35 < juank_prada> 30 days is ok > 14:35 < pcalarco> monthly +1 > 14:35 < JuanCarlosLin> lets vote monthly > 14:36 < jds2001> well i agree with pcalarco too - if monthly gets us > to too much of a backlog, then let's go biweekly > 14:36 < jds2001> but start with monthly > 14:36 < jds2001> so +1 > 14:36 < inode0> so something like the 1st Monday each month? > 14:36 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, the the future meeting is: monday, 20:00 > UTC, 2008-02-18 > 14:37 < JuanCarlosLin> can be considered the 1st monday, wil be easier to > remind > 14:37 < rMenezes> 1st monday, +1 > 14:37 < inode0> that is what I was thinking > 14:37 < JuanCarlosLin> how about inode0 idea? > 14:37 < pcalarco> +1 > 14:37 < jds2001> +1 for first monday > 14:37 < juank_prada> +1 first monday > 14:38 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, next meeting, monday 2008-02-04, 20:00 UTC > 14:38 < rMenezes> In Brazil, 04 feb will be carnival, :) > 14:38 < rMenezes> I'll be here > 14:38 < rMenezes> I promisse, lol > 14:38 < JuanCarlosLin> Ok, anyway, the e-mail can keep us in touch > 14:39 < JuanCarlosLin> please add your topic to discuse for next > meeting when the page is created. > 14:39 < jds2001> heh i could be in class 04-feb (RH401) if everything goes > well. > 14:39 < JuanCarlosLin> so, no more points to discuse, and the meeting is > end. > 14:40 < pcalarco> I have a conflict 2/4 but this is okay generally > 14:40 < JuanCarlosLin> thanks your everyone... > 14:40 < inode0> nice to meet everyone > 14:40 < JuanCarlosLin> now can freely talk > 14:40 < vonbrand_> Is there a transcript? This meeting collided with > another one... and it's the first for me > 14:40 < rMenezes> who has a presentation for FC8? about new features? > 14:40 < pcalarco> has much work been done on the EventKit? I see that > it is past due > 14:41 < pcalarco> I will probably work on an F8 presentation for my > barcamp; perhaps a few of us could collaborate > 14:42 < juank_prada> i will join too as i need a presentation for this > event on my university > 14:42 < rMenezes> ok, just update you presentation in wiki when you have > done > 14:42 < rMenezes> I need some for february > 14:42 -!- JuanCarlosLin [n=lin at gateway.dr-hank.com.py] has quit > ["Saliendo"] > 14:43 < pcalarco> my event is 2008-02-09 > 14:44 < pcalarco> I am sure we could find other F8 presentations to > start with from past events > 14:44 -!- Sparks [n=sparks at fedora/Sparks] has left #fedora-meeting [] > 14:45 < pcalarco> perhaps from one of these: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/PastEvents/2007 > 14:45 -!- vonbrand_ [n=vonbrand at laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl] has left > #fedora-meeting ["Leaving"] > 14:47 < pcalarco> also, there are some Fedora presentation templates > at the very bottom of http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations > 14:48 -!- pcalarco > [n=pcalarco at adsl-76-208-57-148.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net] has quit > [SendQ exceeded] > 14:48 -!- pcalarco > [n=pcalarco at adsl-76-208-57-148.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net] has joined > #fedora-meeting > 14:51 -!- WB0TRA_work [n=WB0TRA_w at 64.62.46.146] has joined #fedora-meeting > 14:54 < pcalarco> exit > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Pablo Barrera -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rodrigomenezes12 at yahoo.com.br Fri Jan 18 12:47:40 2008 From: rodrigomenezes12 at yahoo.com.br (Rodrigo Menezes) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:47:40 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] N. and S. America Ambassador Meeting IRC Log 2008-01-17 In-Reply-To: <46d0f200801171813k39814b13w8c2ef99ca373156b@mail.gmail.com> References: <10e0a9b00801171736o3bbe4606g729a6e9513ee1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <46d0f200801171813k39814b13w8c2ef99ca373156b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47909FEC.7020008@yahoo.com.br> Pablo, this meeting is scheduled for every first monday each month at 20:00 UTC, decided in the meeting. So, We can talk next 04-feb. Cheers, Rodrigo Menezes Pablo Barrera escreveu: > I could not be present, i am studing for my LPI certification, sorry, > anyway it seems thats theres no > "mainstream" talk about local situation , just information of some > activities... > > Could be useful get join again on saturday 15 GTM 0 > Someone interested? > > Best regards > P. > > > 2008/1/17, Jeffrey Tadlock >: > > Here is the IRC meeting log from today: > > > 14:03 < pcalarco> PascalCalarco > 14:03 < rMenezes> RodrigoMenezes > 14:03 -!- snecklifter > [n= snecklif at cpc1-hudd1-0-0-cust526.hudd.cable.ntl.com > ] has left > #fedora-meeting ["Leaving"] > 14:03 < jds2001> JonStanley > 14:03 * jds2001 will be in and out > 14:04 -!- roccofrank|w [n= farnold at 165.204.76.244 > ] has left > #fedora-meeting ["Verlassend"] > 14:04 < JuanCarlosLin> Ok.. only have 4 of us, can we waite 5 minutes? > 14:04 < rMenezes> +1 > 14:04 < pcalarco> +1 > 14:04 < inode0> greetings from the midwest US > 14:04 -!- notting [n=notting at redhat/notting] has left #fedora-meeting > ["Ex-Chat"] > 14:05 < JuanCarlosLin> hi inode0, please state your name > 14:05 < inode0> JohnRose > 14:05 < JuanCarlosLin> we will wait 5 minutes to start.. > 14:07 < pcalarco> we need a minimum of 7 to hold a meeting? > 14:08 < pcalarco> PascalCalarco > 14:08 < JuanCarlosLin> yes > 14:09 -!- JSchmitt [n= s4504kr at fedora/JSchmitt] has quit > ["Konversation > terminated!"] > 14:09 < JuanCarlosLin> but any way, will try to set meeting schedule > 14:09 < jds2001> where is the agenda, BTW? > 14:09 < JuanCarlosLin> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-01-17 > 14:10 < JuanCarlosLin> Ok... please state your names again > 14:10 < jds2001> JonStanley > 14:10 < rMenezes> RodrigoMenezes > 14:10 < inode0> JohnRose > 14:10 < pcalarco> PascalCalarco > 14:11 < JuanCarlosLin> well we are 5, but let start any way. > 14:11 < JuanCarlosLin> first item, fedora events... > 14:11 < JuanCarlosLin> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > 14:12 < JuanCarlosLin> there is someone with new in events? > 14:12 < pcalarco> ! > 14:12 < JuanCarlosLin> pcalarco > 14:12 < juank_prada> hi, im new fedora ambassador i just knew about > today meeting > 14:13 < pcalarco> I have a barcamp in Indianapolis, IN in a few weeks > 14:13 < pcalarco> not sure if ppl will want to talk about Fedora, but > I will suggest it as a topic > 14:13 < rMenezes> ! > 14:13 < pcalarco> I can take care of media, as there is only 20 of us > 14:13 < JuanCarlosLin> rMenezes > 14:14 < jds2001> JuanCarlosLin: there is a barcamp in NYC in march > 14:14 < jds2001> i will cover that. > 14:14 < pcalarco> eof > 14:14 < inode0> I'm giving a presentation in two weeks on the OLPC > project at a large university ... will be plugging Fedora while I do > that > 14:14 < rMenezes> ok, Brazil, the newest big event here will be > FISL in april > 14:15 < rMenezes> we produced the live CDs and DVDs locally > 14:15 < rMenezes> and requested 5 lectures, a both and a comunity > event > 14:15 < rMenezes> waiting approvals from the event > 14:15 < JuanCarlosLin> rmenezes eof? > 14:15 < rMenezes> this mounth is vacation in local Colleges, so > everyone is waiting to restart the meetings with students > 14:15 < rMenezes> eof > 14:16 < rMenezes> *month > 14:16 < rMenezes> sorry > 14:16 < JuanCarlosLin> ok., jds2001, please update your event > information on site > 14:17 < jds2001> sure thing. > 14:17 < JuanCarlosLin> rmenezes, I have planning produce 3000 CD/DVD > for Rodrigo Padula BRazil, I can send to you also a few ones > 14:17 < rMenezes> ok, thanks > 14:18 < rMenezes> I'll send you my address through e-mail, ok? > 14:18 < JuanCarlosLin> I offer this to all of you, just ask and wait > for programation amiling > 14:18 < JuanCarlosLin> yes, please > 14:18 < JuanCarlosLin> well, this poit is covered. > 14:18 < JuanCarlosLin> let go to the second item > 14:19 < JuanCarlosLin> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff/Tracker > 14:19 < juank_prada> ? > 14:19 < JuanCarlosLin> I see there is no pending material asking > for america > 14:19 < JuanCarlosLin> juank_prada, please state your name > 14:19 < juank_prada> JuanCamiloPrada > 14:20 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, can speak > 14:20 < juank_prada> im new as an ambassador, and im planning on an > event on my university > 14:20 < juank_prada> but im not sure what kind of material should i > take to that activity > 14:21 < jds2001> what sort of activity? > 14:21 < juank_prada> the event is suppose to be about FOSS in genera, > and i want to talk about fedora promting the project > 14:21 < JuanCarlosLin> well, there is presentations on site, and also > is a good idea distribute copies of CD/DVD > 14:21 < JuanCarlosLin> jds2001, can you help? > 14:22 < rMenezes> where can I find presentations for Fedora 8 > 14:22 < rMenezes> ? > 14:22 * jds2001 is busy with other projects in fedora, stretched > kinda thin right now > 14:23 < inode0> rMenezes: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations > is a place to start > 14:23 < juank_prada> inode0: thanks it helps me too > 14:23 < rMenezes> there is nothing directly about version 8 > 14:23 < jds2001> although if any of you wanna help me out, we'll be > launching within a month hopefully :) > 14:24 < JuanCarlosLin> ok... juank_prada, when define the date, can > ask any of us to help > 14:24 < inode0> an opportunity then to prepare one and share it with > the community > 14:24 < JuanCarlosLin> ok... lets go to the secondo point > 14:24 < juank_prada> JuanCarlosLin: thanks, the date will be defined > hopefully next week > 14:24 < jds2001> i may be able to help some there. emphasize how we > contirbute upstream > 14:24 < JuanCarlosLin> any one have pending materialr orders? > 14:24 < jds2001> and maybe features that made it to F8 > 14:25 < jds2001> yeah, i'll need some for the nyc barcamp. not sure > exactly what/how much. > 14:25 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, i see no pending order for america. > 14:25 < JuanCarlosLin> lets go to the nex item > 14:26 < JuanCarlosLin> ther is some amabassador need verification yet? > 14:27 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, no abassador to verify? > 14:27 < pcalarco> I do not think so > 14:27 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, let go to the last item, meeting schedule > 14:27 < JuanCarlosLin> I will like to hear form youthe best day, and > time to meeting > 14:27 < jds2001> evenings EST are better for me. > 14:28 < JuanCarlosLin> UTC time? > 14:28 < jds2001> 23:00? > 14:28 < pcalarco> 01:00 UTC maybe? > 14:29 < jds2001> that's good too. > 14:29 < rMenezes> for me is any work day at 20:00 UTC > 14:29 < JuanCarlosLin> any one more? > 14:29 < inode0> I can be flexible but evenings preferred > 14:29 < juank_prada> any time is ok by me as i spent all day in > front of a pc > 14:30 < pcalarco> I can do 20:00 UTC too on Mondays or Fridays is best > 14:30 < pcalarco> or evenings of course > 14:30 < pcalarco> eof > 14:30 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, the time I set was 19:00 UTC, how about > change it to 20:00 UTC to aproch > 14:31 < pcalarco> +1 > 14:31 < juank_prada> +1 > 14:31 < rMenezes> +1 > 14:31 < jds2001> +1 > 14:31 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, it will be 20:00 UTC > 14:32 < JuanCarlosLin> and the day? wich better > 14:32 < inode0> not tuesday > 14:32 < juank_prada> monday? > 14:32 < pcalarco> Monday +1 > 14:32 < rMenezes> Monday +1 > 14:33 < JuanCarlosLin> jsd2001? > 14:33 < jds2001> +1 > 14:33 < inode0> we'll have one thing to look forward to on Monday! > 14:33 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, on monday > 14:33 < rMenezes> ! > 14:33 < JuanCarlosLin> rmenezes > 14:33 < rMenezes> the meetings will be every week? > 14:34 < JuanCarlosLin> that the next point > 14:34 < JuanCarlosLin> about the frecuency, is good 15 or 30 days, > 14:34 -!- vonbrand_ [n=vonbrand at laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl > ] has joined > #fedora-meeting > 14:34 < JuanCarlosLin> how about you? > 14:34 < inode0> etiher fine with me > 14:35 < jds2001> 30 days +1 > 14:35 < pcalarco> if we have enough to work on, biweekly but > otherwise monthly > 14:35 < rMenezes> for me 30 days is fine > 14:35 < juank_prada> 30 days is ok > 14:35 < pcalarco> monthly +1 > 14:35 < JuanCarlosLin> lets vote monthly > 14:36 < jds2001> well i agree with pcalarco too - if monthly gets us > to too much of a backlog, then let's go biweekly > 14:36 < jds2001> but start with monthly > 14:36 < jds2001> so +1 > 14:36 < inode0> so something like the 1st Monday each month? > 14:36 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, the the future meeting is: monday, 20:00 > UTC, 2008-02-18 > 14:37 < JuanCarlosLin> can be considered the 1st monday, wil be > easier to remind > 14:37 < rMenezes> 1st monday, +1 > 14:37 < inode0> that is what I was thinking > 14:37 < JuanCarlosLin> how about inode0 idea? > 14:37 < pcalarco> +1 > 14:37 < jds2001> +1 for first monday > 14:37 < juank_prada> +1 first monday > 14:38 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, next meeting, monday 2008-02-04, 20:00 UTC > 14:38 < rMenezes> In Brazil, 04 feb will be carnival, :) > 14:38 < rMenezes> I'll be here > 14:38 < rMenezes> I promisse, lol > 14:38 < JuanCarlosLin> Ok, anyway, the e-mail can keep us in touch > 14:39 < JuanCarlosLin> please add your topic to discuse for next > meeting when the page is created. > 14:39 < jds2001> heh i could be in class 04-feb (RH401) if > everything goes well. > 14:39 < JuanCarlosLin> so, no more points to discuse, and the > meeting is end. > 14:40 < pcalarco> I have a conflict 2/4 but this is okay generally > 14:40 < JuanCarlosLin> thanks your everyone... > 14:40 < inode0> nice to meet everyone > 14:40 < JuanCarlosLin> now can freely talk > 14:40 < vonbrand_> Is there a transcript? This meeting collided with > another one... and it's the first for me > 14:40 < rMenezes> who has a presentation for FC8? about new features? > 14:40 < pcalarco> has much work been done on the EventKit? I see that > it is past due > 14:41 < pcalarco> I will probably work on an F8 presentation for my > barcamp; perhaps a few of us could collaborate > 14:42 < juank_prada> i will join too as i need a presentation for this > event on my university > 14:42 < rMenezes> ok, just update you presentation in wiki when > you have done > 14:42 < rMenezes> I need some for february > 14:42 -!- JuanCarlosLin [n=lin at gateway.dr-hank.com.py > ] has quit ["Saliendo"] > 14:43 < pcalarco> my event is 2008-02-09 > 14:44 < pcalarco> I am sure we could find other F8 presentations to > start with from past events > 14:44 -!- Sparks [n=sparks at fedora /Sparks] has left #fedora-meeting [] > 14:45 < pcalarco> perhaps from one of these: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/PastEvents/2007 > > 14:45 -!- vonbrand_ [n=vonbrand at laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl > ] has left > #fedora-meeting ["Leaving"] > 14:47 < pcalarco> also, there are some Fedora presentation templates > at the very bottom of http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations > 14:48 -!- pcalarco > [n= pcalarco at adsl-76-208-57-148.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net > ] has > quit > [SendQ exceeded] > 14:48 -!- pcalarco > [n=pcalarco at adsl-76-208-57-148.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net > ] has > joined > #fedora-meeting > 14:51 -!- WB0TRA_work [n=WB0TRA_w at 64.62.46.146 > ] has joined #fedora-meeting > 14:54 < pcalarco> exit > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > Pablo Barrera > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > _______________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - Sempre a melhor op??o para voc?! Experimente j? e veja as novidades. http://br.yahoo.com/mailbeta/tudonovo/ From pablo.floss at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 15:07:23 2008 From: pablo.floss at gmail.com (Pablo Barrera) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:07:23 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] N. and S. America Ambassador Meeting IRC Log 2008-01-17 In-Reply-To: <47909FEC.7020008@yahoo.com.br> References: <10e0a9b00801171736o3bbe4606g729a6e9513ee1bbd@mail.gmail.com> <46d0f200801171813k39814b13w8c2ef99ca373156b@mail.gmail.com> <47909FEC.7020008@yahoo.com.br> Message-ID: <46d0f200801180707i69424004yfebbbf21f6fd0d84@mail.gmail.com> Too much time anyway.. :-( best regards P. 2008/1/18, Rodrigo Menezes : > > Pablo, this meeting is scheduled for every first monday each month at > 20:00 UTC, decided in the meeting. > > So, We can talk next 04-feb. > > Cheers, > > Rodrigo Menezes > > > Pablo Barrera escreveu: > > I could not be present, i am studing for my LPI certification, sorry, > > anyway it seems thats theres no > > "mainstream" talk about local situation , just information of some > > activities... > > > > Could be useful get join again on saturday 15 GTM 0 > > Someone interested? > > > > Best regards > > P. > > > > > > 2008/1/17, Jeffrey Tadlock > >: > > > > Here is the IRC meeting log from today: > > > > > > 14:03 < pcalarco> PascalCalarco > > 14:03 < rMenezes> RodrigoMenezes > > 14:03 -!- snecklifter > > [n= snecklif at cpc1-hudd1-0-0-cust526.hudd.cable.ntl.com > > ] has > left > > #fedora-meeting ["Leaving"] > > 14:03 < jds2001> JonStanley > > 14:03 * jds2001 will be in and out > > 14:04 -!- roccofrank|w [n= farnold at 165.204.76.244 > > ] has left > > #fedora-meeting ["Verlassend"] > > 14:04 < JuanCarlosLin> Ok.. only have 4 of us, can we waite 5 > minutes? > > 14:04 < rMenezes> +1 > > 14:04 < pcalarco> +1 > > 14:04 < inode0> greetings from the midwest US > > 14:04 -!- notting [n=notting at redhat/notting] has left > #fedora-meeting > > ["Ex-Chat"] > > 14:05 < JuanCarlosLin> hi inode0, please state your name > > 14:05 < inode0> JohnRose > > 14:05 < JuanCarlosLin> we will wait 5 minutes to start.. > > 14:07 < pcalarco> we need a minimum of 7 to hold a meeting? > > 14:08 < pcalarco> PascalCalarco > > 14:08 < JuanCarlosLin> yes > > 14:09 -!- JSchmitt [n= s4504kr at fedora/JSchmitt] has quit > > ["Konversation > > terminated!"] > > 14:09 < JuanCarlosLin> but any way, will try to set meeting schedule > > 14:09 < jds2001> where is the agenda, BTW? > > 14:09 < JuanCarlosLin> > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-01-17 > > 14:10 < JuanCarlosLin> Ok... please state your names again > > 14:10 < jds2001> JonStanley > > 14:10 < rMenezes> RodrigoMenezes > > 14:10 < inode0> JohnRose > > 14:10 < pcalarco> PascalCalarco > > 14:11 < JuanCarlosLin> well we are 5, but let start any way. > > 14:11 < JuanCarlosLin> first item, fedora events... > > 14:11 < JuanCarlosLin> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > > 14:12 < JuanCarlosLin> there is someone with new in events? > > 14:12 < pcalarco> ! > > 14:12 < JuanCarlosLin> pcalarco > > 14:12 < juank_prada> hi, im new fedora ambassador i just knew about > > today meeting > > 14:13 < pcalarco> I have a barcamp in Indianapolis, IN in a few > weeks > > 14:13 < pcalarco> not sure if ppl will want to talk about Fedora, > but > > I will suggest it as a topic > > 14:13 < rMenezes> ! > > 14:13 < pcalarco> I can take care of media, as there is only 20 of > us > > 14:13 < JuanCarlosLin> rMenezes > > 14:14 < jds2001> JuanCarlosLin: there is a barcamp in NYC in march > > 14:14 < jds2001> i will cover that. > > 14:14 < pcalarco> eof > > 14:14 < inode0> I'm giving a presentation in two weeks on the OLPC > > project at a large university ... will be plugging Fedora while I do > > that > > 14:14 < rMenezes> ok, Brazil, the newest big event here will be > > FISL in april > > 14:15 < rMenezes> we produced the live CDs and DVDs locally > > 14:15 < rMenezes> and requested 5 lectures, a both and a comunity > > event > > 14:15 < rMenezes> waiting approvals from the event > > 14:15 < JuanCarlosLin> rmenezes eof? > > 14:15 < rMenezes> this mounth is vacation in local Colleges, so > > everyone is waiting to restart the meetings with students > > 14:15 < rMenezes> eof > > 14:16 < rMenezes> *month > > 14:16 < rMenezes> sorry > > 14:16 < JuanCarlosLin> ok., jds2001, please update your event > > information on site > > 14:17 < jds2001> sure thing. > > 14:17 < JuanCarlosLin> rmenezes, I have planning produce 3000 CD/DVD > > for Rodrigo Padula BRazil, I can send to you also a few ones > > 14:17 < rMenezes> ok, thanks > > 14:18 < rMenezes> I'll send you my address through e-mail, ok? > > 14:18 < JuanCarlosLin> I offer this to all of you, just ask and wait > > for programation amiling > > 14:18 < JuanCarlosLin> yes, please > > 14:18 < JuanCarlosLin> well, this poit is covered. > > 14:18 < JuanCarlosLin> let go to the second item > > 14:19 < JuanCarlosLin> > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff/Tracker > > 14:19 < juank_prada> ? > > 14:19 < JuanCarlosLin> I see there is no pending material asking > > for america > > 14:19 < JuanCarlosLin> juank_prada, please state your name > > 14:19 < juank_prada> JuanCamiloPrada > > 14:20 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, can speak > > 14:20 < juank_prada> im new as an ambassador, and im planning on an > > event on my university > > 14:20 < juank_prada> but im not sure what kind of material should i > > take to that activity > > 14:21 < jds2001> what sort of activity? > > 14:21 < juank_prada> the event is suppose to be about FOSS in > genera, > > and i want to talk about fedora promting the project > > 14:21 < JuanCarlosLin> well, there is presentations on site, and > also > > is a good idea distribute copies of CD/DVD > > 14:21 < JuanCarlosLin> jds2001, can you help? > > 14:22 < rMenezes> where can I find presentations for Fedora 8 > > 14:22 < rMenezes> ? > > 14:22 * jds2001 is busy with other projects in fedora, stretched > > kinda thin right now > > 14:23 < inode0> rMenezes: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations > > is a place to start > > 14:23 < juank_prada> inode0: thanks it helps me too > > 14:23 < rMenezes> there is nothing directly about version 8 > > 14:23 < jds2001> although if any of you wanna help me out, we'll be > > launching within a month hopefully :) > > 14:24 < JuanCarlosLin> ok... juank_prada, when define the date, can > > ask any of us to help > > 14:24 < inode0> an opportunity then to prepare one and share it with > > the community > > 14:24 < JuanCarlosLin> ok... lets go to the secondo point > > 14:24 < juank_prada> JuanCarlosLin: thanks, the date will be defined > > hopefully next week > > 14:24 < jds2001> i may be able to help some there. emphasize how we > > contirbute upstream > > 14:24 < JuanCarlosLin> any one have pending materialr orders? > > 14:24 < jds2001> and maybe features that made it to F8 > > 14:25 < jds2001> yeah, i'll need some for the nyc barcamp. not sure > > exactly what/how much. > > 14:25 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, i see no pending order for america. > > 14:25 < JuanCarlosLin> lets go to the nex item > > 14:26 < JuanCarlosLin> ther is some amabassador need verification > yet? > > 14:27 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, no abassador to verify? > > 14:27 < pcalarco> I do not think so > > 14:27 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, let go to the last item, meeting schedule > > 14:27 < JuanCarlosLin> I will like to hear form youthe best day, and > > time to meeting > > 14:27 < jds2001> evenings EST are better for me. > > 14:28 < JuanCarlosLin> UTC time? > > 14:28 < jds2001> 23:00? > > 14:28 < pcalarco> 01:00 UTC maybe? > > 14:29 < jds2001> that's good too. > > 14:29 < rMenezes> for me is any work day at 20:00 UTC > > 14:29 < JuanCarlosLin> any one more? > > 14:29 < inode0> I can be flexible but evenings preferred > > 14:29 < juank_prada> any time is ok by me as i spent all day in > > front of a pc > > 14:30 < pcalarco> I can do 20:00 UTC too on Mondays or Fridays is > best > > 14:30 < pcalarco> or evenings of course > > 14:30 < pcalarco> eof > > 14:30 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, the time I set was 19:00 UTC, how about > > change it to 20:00 UTC to aproch > > 14:31 < pcalarco> +1 > > 14:31 < juank_prada> +1 > > 14:31 < rMenezes> +1 > > 14:31 < jds2001> +1 > > 14:31 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, it will be 20:00 UTC > > 14:32 < JuanCarlosLin> and the day? wich better > > 14:32 < inode0> not tuesday > > 14:32 < juank_prada> monday? > > 14:32 < pcalarco> Monday +1 > > 14:32 < rMenezes> Monday +1 > > 14:33 < JuanCarlosLin> jsd2001? > > 14:33 < jds2001> +1 > > 14:33 < inode0> we'll have one thing to look forward to on Monday! > > 14:33 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, on monday > > 14:33 < rMenezes> ! > > 14:33 < JuanCarlosLin> rmenezes > > 14:33 < rMenezes> the meetings will be every week? > > 14:34 < JuanCarlosLin> that the next point > > 14:34 < JuanCarlosLin> about the frecuency, is good 15 or 30 days, > > 14:34 -!- vonbrand_ [n=vonbrand at laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl > > ] has joined > > #fedora-meeting > > 14:34 < JuanCarlosLin> how about you? > > 14:34 < inode0> etiher fine with me > > 14:35 < jds2001> 30 days +1 > > 14:35 < pcalarco> if we have enough to work on, biweekly but > > otherwise monthly > > 14:35 < rMenezes> for me 30 days is fine > > 14:35 < juank_prada> 30 days is ok > > 14:35 < pcalarco> monthly +1 > > 14:35 < JuanCarlosLin> lets vote monthly > > 14:36 < jds2001> well i agree with pcalarco too - if monthly gets us > > to too much of a backlog, then let's go biweekly > > 14:36 < jds2001> but start with monthly > > 14:36 < jds2001> so +1 > > 14:36 < inode0> so something like the 1st Monday each month? > > 14:36 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, the the future meeting is: monday, 20:00 > > UTC, 2008-02-18 > > 14:37 < JuanCarlosLin> can be considered the 1st monday, wil be > > easier to remind > > 14:37 < rMenezes> 1st monday, +1 > > 14:37 < inode0> that is what I was thinking > > 14:37 < JuanCarlosLin> how about inode0 idea? > > 14:37 < pcalarco> +1 > > 14:37 < jds2001> +1 for first monday > > 14:37 < juank_prada> +1 first monday > > 14:38 < JuanCarlosLin> ok, next meeting, monday 2008-02-04, 20:00 > UTC > > 14:38 < rMenezes> In Brazil, 04 feb will be carnival, :) > > 14:38 < rMenezes> I'll be here > > 14:38 < rMenezes> I promisse, lol > > 14:38 < JuanCarlosLin> Ok, anyway, the e-mail can keep us in touch > > 14:39 < JuanCarlosLin> please add your topic to discuse for next > > meeting when the page is created. > > 14:39 < jds2001> heh i could be in class 04-feb (RH401) if > > everything goes well. > > 14:39 < JuanCarlosLin> so, no more points to discuse, and the > > meeting is end. > > 14:40 < pcalarco> I have a conflict 2/4 but this is okay generally > > 14:40 < JuanCarlosLin> thanks your everyone... > > 14:40 < inode0> nice to meet everyone > > 14:40 < JuanCarlosLin> now can freely talk > > 14:40 < vonbrand_> Is there a transcript? This meeting collided with > > another one... and it's the first for me > > 14:40 < rMenezes> who has a presentation for FC8? about new > features? > > 14:40 < pcalarco> has much work been done on the EventKit? I see > that > > it is past due > > 14:41 < pcalarco> I will probably work on an F8 presentation for my > > barcamp; perhaps a few of us could collaborate > > 14:42 < juank_prada> i will join too as i need a presentation for > this > > event on my university > > 14:42 < rMenezes> ok, just update you presentation in wiki when > > you have done > > 14:42 < rMenezes> I need some for february > > 14:42 -!- JuanCarlosLin [n=lin at gateway.dr-hank.com.py > > ] has quit ["Saliendo"] > > 14:43 < pcalarco> my event is 2008-02-09 > > 14:44 < pcalarco> I am sure we could find other F8 presentations to > > start with from past events > > 14:44 -!- Sparks [n=sparks at fedora /Sparks] has left #fedora-meeting > [] > > 14:45 < pcalarco> perhaps from one of these: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/PastEvents/2007 > > > > 14:45 -!- vonbrand_ [n=vonbrand at laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl > > ] has left > > #fedora-meeting ["Leaving"] > > 14:47 < pcalarco> also, there are some Fedora presentation templates > > at the very bottom of http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations > > 14:48 -!- pcalarco > > [n= pcalarco at adsl-76-208-57-148.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net > > ] has > > quit > > [SendQ exceeded] > > 14:48 -!- pcalarco > > [n=pcalarco at adsl-76-208-57-148.dsl.sbndin.sbcglobal.net > > ] has > > joined > > #fedora-meeting > > 14:51 -!- WB0TRA_work [n=WB0TRA_w at 64.62.46.146 > > ] has joined #fedora-meeting > > 14:54 < pcalarco> exit > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Pablo Barrera > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - Sempre a melhor op??o para voc?! > Experimente j? e veja as novidades. > http://br.yahoo.com/mailbeta/tudonovo/ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Pablo Barrera -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davidsonpaulo at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 15:32:24 2008 From: davidsonpaulo at gmail.com (Davidson Rodrigues Paulo) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:32:24 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 9 In-Reply-To: <4790A980.3050702@fedoraproject.org> References: <47904898.4090807@projetofedora.org> <4790A0A2.5090702@yahoo.com.br> <4790A980.3050702@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: 2008/1/18, Rahul Sundaram : > There was a open call in fedora-devel list and all of the names were > suggested from people in the community and need to pass through legal > review which has already been done. The names won't be changed now. So sugestions are made on fedora-devel... Good to know this. :-) We need to make more and better sugestions, because if that list contains only the better names among all those suggested, I don't want to imagine the names that were not been approved... I heard that the fisrt Fedora codenames were all alchool-related. Zod is a fiction character. Moonshine is a home-distilled alchool made specially in places where this production is illegal. Werewolf is a legendary monster. We really want to associate Fedora with alchool? Fedora is not made by drunks, I'm sure. Developers may drink, but they don't produce any code or work under effect of alchool, I'm sure (and, if yes, I think is better if Fedora users don't know that). And what about monsters? Has someone here ever seen a werewolf, a chupacabra, or Zod? Fedora is real, and its codename need to be something undoubtedly real. Finally, I can't figure out how 3 diseases names could be accepted as options. What type of marketing could we do with names like those, "Fedora 9: Sick, like you"? Why I'm saying this? Because we have a list with codenames that vary from bad to worst and we are responsible for this because we don't suggested better codenames. We need to participate this process before we start do have Fedora Dracula, Malt or Ebola... By now, let's choose a codename that is not so bad. Best regards, Davidson Paulo http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DavidsonPaulo From magie at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 18 17:59:59 2008 From: magie at fedoraproject.org (Magie Antonio) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:59:59 +0800 (PHT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Introductions Message-ID: <39100.10.0.0.4.1200679199.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> Hi, Magie here. I am a new Fedora Ambassador from the Philippines and I just wanted to say hello to everyone. :) My first act as FA was to showcase Fedora during the Creative Commons Philippines (http://creativecommons.org/international/ph/) launch last January 14, 2007. I noticed from the archives that ambassadors from the Philippines are relatively quiet. Perhaps we should organize a meeting in Manila to plan possible activities for PH? My organization will be happy to sponsor the venue. Regards, Magie -- Magie Antonio http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MagieAntonio From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 18 18:13:11 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:13:11 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introductions In-Reply-To: <39100.10.0.0.4.1200679199.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> References: <39100.10.0.0.4.1200679199.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> Message-ID: Welcome on board Magie! I noticed from the archives that ambassadors from the Philippines are > relatively quiet. Perhaps we should organize a meeting in Manila to plan > possible activities for PH? My organization will be happy to sponsor the > venue. This is a great idea (you may also refer to similar event held in other countries). 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Perhaps we should organize a meeting in Manila to plan > possible activities for PH? My organization will be happy to sponsor the > venue. > > Regards, > Magie > > -- > Magie Antonio > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MagieAntonio > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Welcome Magie!! -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GiuseppePignataro From pablo.floss at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 20:33:12 2008 From: pablo.floss at gmail.com (Pablo Barrera) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:33:12 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introductions In-Reply-To: <39100.10.0.0.4.1200679199.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> References: <39100.10.0.0.4.1200679199.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> Message-ID: <46d0f200801181233t247ed07ct9c3e2fe490382a19@mail.gmail.com> Welcome Magie to Fedora Family Best regards P. 2008/1/18, Magie Antonio : > > Hi, > > Magie here. I am a new Fedora Ambassador from the Philippines and I just > wanted to say hello to everyone. :) > > My first act as FA was to showcase Fedora during the Creative Commons > Philippines (http://creativecommons.org/international/ph/) launch last > January 14, 2007. > > I noticed from the archives that ambassadors from the Philippines are > relatively quiet. Perhaps we should organize a meeting in Manila to plan > possible activities for PH? My organization will be happy to sponsor the > venue. > > Regards, > Magie > > -- > Magie Antonio > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MagieAntonio > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Pablo Barrera -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am a new Fedora Ambassador from the Philippines and > I > just > wanted to say hello to everyone. :) > > My first act as FA was to showcase Fedora during the Creative Commons > Philippines (http://creativecommons.org/international/ph/) launch last > January 14, 2007. > > I noticed from the archives that ambassadors from the Philippines are > relatively quiet. Perhaps we should organize a meeting in Manila > to > plan > possible activities for PH? My organization will be happy to > sponsor > the > venue. > > Regards, > Magie > > -- > Magie Antonio > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MagieAntonio > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail, o ?nico sem limite de espa?o para armazenamento! http://br.mail.yahoo.com/ From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 18 22:23:23 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:23:23 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fosdem2008 BeerEvent Message-ID: <200801182323.29062.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Hello Fosdem Attendees, normally - first work then fun ;-) but some of you/us will arraive Friday 22.02. in Brussels. Is there something planed? Fosdem BeerEvent ? http://fosdem.org/2008/beerevent or Dinner with the CENTOS People like last year ? Any suggestions? CU Joerg -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From kanarip at kanarip.com Sat Jan 19 00:41:46 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:41:46 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fosdem2008 BeerEvent In-Reply-To: <200801182323.29062.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200801182323.29062.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4791474A.8050504@kanarip.com> JoergSimon wrote: > Hello Fosdem Attendees, > > normally - first work then fun ;-) > but some of you/us will arraive > Friday 22.02. in Brussels. > Is there something planed? > Fosdem BeerEvent ? http://fosdem.org/2008/beerevent > or Dinner with the CENTOS People like last year ? > > Any suggestions? > I'm planning on arriving ~13:00-ish. I'm in for anything that involves a couple of good beers, I still owe a couple to a number of persons. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From subhodip at fedoraproject.org Sat Jan 19 03:49:57 2008 From: subhodip at fedoraproject.org (subhodip biswas) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:19:57 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introductions In-Reply-To: <46d0f200801181233t247ed07ct9c3e2fe490382a19@mail.gmail.com> References: <39100.10.0.0.4.1200679199.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> <46d0f200801181233t247ed07ct9c3e2fe490382a19@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <539333cb0801181949r51460e69r9f08f0d223303c47@mail.gmail.com> Welcome Magie to this wonderful project -- Regards Subhodip Biswas GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas From btoogood at slingshot.co.nz Sat Jan 19 08:56:37 2008 From: btoogood at slingshot.co.nz (brendon) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:56:37 +1300 Subject: [Ambassadors] introducing myself Message-ID: <1200732997.7205.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello to my fellow ambassadors, just writing to say hello and to introduce my self. My name is Brendon Toogood, I live in Oamaru New Zealand I have been using Fedora since FC2, FC3,FC4 i had a break to see what other versions of linux were around, then I have came back to FC8 which seems to be just as good and if not better than what I have remembered.I am glade to be part of such a good Project and a good team. -- Brendon Toogood Ambassador Of Fedora Project HTTP://www.fedoraproject.org Email:btoogood at slingshot.co.nz for cd's and dvds From satyajit at nerdshack.com Sat Jan 19 11:55:34 2008 From: satyajit at nerdshack.com (Satyajit Ranjeev) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:25:34 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] introducing myself In-Reply-To: <1200732997.7205.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1200732997.7205.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1200743734.3312.0.camel@ibm.oakgrove.hom> Welcome Brendon. On Sat, 2008-01-19 at 21:56 +1300, brendon wrote: > Hello to my fellow ambassadors, just writing to say hello and to > introduce my self. > > My name is Brendon Toogood, I live in Oamaru New Zealand I have been > using Fedora since FC2, FC3,FC4 i had a break to see what other versions > of linux were around, then I have came back to FC8 which seems to be > just as good and if not better than what I have remembered.I am glade to > be part of such a good Project and a good team. > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I am a new Fedora Ambassador from the Philippines and I just > > wanted to say hello to everyone. :) > > > > My first act as FA was to showcase Fedora during the Creative Commons > > Philippines (http://creativecommons.org/international/ph/) launch last > > January 14, 2007. > > > > I noticed from the archives that ambassadors from the Philippines are > > relatively quiet. Perhaps we should organize a meeting in Manila to plan > > possible activities for PH? My organization will be happy to sponsor the > > venue. > > > > Regards, > > Magie > > > > -- > > Magie Antonio > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MagieAntonio > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > Welcome Magie!! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Best Regards, John Babich Volunteer, Fedora Project From jmbabich at gmail.com Sat Jan 19 13:16:19 2008 From: jmbabich at gmail.com (John Babich) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:16:19 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introductions In-Reply-To: <1200743769.3312.2.camel@ibm.oakgrove.hom> References: <39100.10.0.0.4.1200679199.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> <34680d50801181046o5d5787caqae1c08df099a7898@mail.gmail.com> <1200743769.3312.2.camel@ibm.oakgrove.hom> Message-ID: <9d2c731f0801190516udc28550me918868541e9aa8d@mail.gmail.com> Magie: Welcome to the Fedora Project! Best Regards, John Babich Volunteer, Fedora Project From rogepix at gmail.com Sat Jan 19 14:33:47 2008 From: rogepix at gmail.com (giuseppe pignataro) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:33:47 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] introducing myself In-Reply-To: <1200732997.7205.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1200732997.7205.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <34680d50801190633n57135d61kf39d7676837dd8e8@mail.gmail.com> 2008/1/19, brendon : > Hello to my fellow ambassadors, just writing to say hello and to > introduce my self. > > My name is Brendon Toogood, I live in Oamaru New Zealand I have been > using Fedora since FC2, FC3,FC4 i had a break to see what other versions > of linux were around, then I have came back to FC8 which seems to be > just as good and if not better than what I have remembered.I am glade to > be part of such a good Project and a good team. > > > -- > > Brendon Toogood > Ambassador Of Fedora Project > HTTP://www.fedoraproject.org > Email:btoogood at slingshot.co.nz > for cd's and dvds > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Welcome Brendon!! -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GiuseppePignataro From henrique_csj at yahoo.com.br Sat Jan 19 14:30:14 2008 From: henrique_csj at yahoo.com.br (Henrique de Castro) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:30:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Res: [Ambassadors] Introductions Message-ID: <576535.92730.qm@web45515.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hello from the Brazilian team, Brendon. Henrique "LonelySpooky" Junior "The best diplomat that I know is a fully-loaded phaser bank." Lt. Cdr. Montgomery Scott ("A Taste of Armageddon") ----- Mensagem original ---- De: John Babich Para: satyajit at fedoraproject.org; fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Enviadas: S?bado, 19 de Janeiro de 2008 11:16:19 Assunto: Re: [Ambassadors] Introductions Magie: Welcome to the Fedora Project! Best Regards, John Babich Volunteer, Fedora Project -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail, o ?nico sem limite de espa?o para armazenamento! http://br.mail.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As we have not yet heard back from the German Financial Department, we need to treat this initial draft with a little caution as far as additions or changes are concerned; The document is in PDF format for a reason ;-) I send this version of the document to all Ambassadors anyway, because we do need some time to read the document and collect all comments before the group of Ambassadors attending FOSDEM 2008 in Brussels, Belgium takes it up for voting. The Statutes are based on a set that has been previously accepted by the German Financial Department (a local LUG), with some minor changes as to what the geographical scope and possibilities (meetings in person, etc.) are. Please note that although the scope of the NPO according to these Statutes is very, very broad, the NPO will not (can not) interfere with normal Fedora Project's daily operations, principles or other contributors and Ambassadors regardless of the continent either of those take place in -it is primarily founded to provide a legal entity to those of us (Ambassadors) in the EMEA area that need to share some kind of resources (think of a purchasing an Event Kit that is being shipped from one place to another, and cover the back of those Ambassadors that now invest privately in getting a booth at an Event, etc.). Please also mind that none of this is set in stone, and the board (to be elected at FOSDEM 2008 if Statutes are accepted) will need to make the final decision on those topics. Any comments to what is in the document are welcome (via the mailing list or to myself in private); any comments as to what is happening here I would prefer you send to me in private to prevent any kind of discussion taking any direction we are going to regret at some point in time. Thank you, Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Fedora EMEA Statutes.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 53476 bytes Desc: not available URL: From tchello.mello at gmail.com Sat Jan 19 23:28:00 2008 From: tchello.mello at gmail.com (Marcelo Moreira de Mello) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:28:00 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] introducing myself In-Reply-To: <1200732997.7205.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1200732997.7205.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Hello Bredon!!! Welcome to our team... On Jan 19, 2008 6:56 AM, brendon wrote: > Hello to my fellow ambassadors, just writing to say hello and to > introduce my self. > > My name is Brendon Toogood, I live in Oamaru New Zealand I have been > using Fedora since FC2, FC3,FC4 i had a break to see what other versions > of linux were around, then I have came back to FC8 which seems to be > just as good and if not better than what I have remembered.I am glade to > be part of such a good Project and a good team. > > > -- > > Brendon Toogood > Ambassador Of Fedora Project > HTTP://www.fedoraproject.org > Email:btoogood at slingshot.co.nz > for cd's and dvds > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards red / SandroMathys Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Hi There, > > this message particularly addresses the EMEA Ambassadors, although of > course every Ambassador regardless of the geographical location is free > to comment. > > Attached is the first initial draft of the Statutes of Fedora EMEA, > which have been submitted for a principle (non-official) approval to the > German Financial Department some time ago, too. > > As we have not yet heard back from the German Financial Department, we > need to treat this initial draft with a little caution as far as > additions or changes are concerned; The document is in PDF format for a > reason ;-) I send this version of the document to all Ambassadors > anyway, because we do need some time to read the document and collect > all comments before the group of Ambassadors attending FOSDEM 2008 in > Brussels, Belgium takes it up for voting. > > The Statutes are based on a set that has been previously accepted by the > German Financial Department (a local LUG), with some minor changes as to > what the geographical scope and possibilities (meetings in person, etc.) > are. > > Please note that although the scope of the NPO according to these > Statutes is very, very broad, the NPO will not (can not) interfere with > normal Fedora Project's daily operations, principles or other > contributors and Ambassadors regardless of the continent either of those > take place in -it is primarily founded to provide a legal entity to > those of us (Ambassadors) in the EMEA area that need to share some kind > of resources (think of a purchasing an Event Kit that is being shipped > from one place to another, and cover the back of those Ambassadors that > now invest privately in getting a booth at an Event, etc.). > > Please also mind that none of this is set in stone, and the board (to be > elected at FOSDEM 2008 if Statutes are accepted) will need to make the > final decision on those topics. > > Any comments to what is in the document are welcome (via the mailing > list or to myself in private); any comments as to what is happening here > I would prefer you send to me in private to prevent any kind of > discussion taking any direction we are going to regret at some point in > time. > > Thank you, > > Kind regards, > > Jeroen van Meeuwen > -kanarip > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From gerold at lugd.org Sun Jan 20 10:05:40 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:05:40 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA: Preliminary Statutes In-Reply-To: <47931981.9000702@the-psychiatry.ch> References: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> <47931981.9000702@the-psychiatry.ch> Message-ID: <1200823540.3604.5.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Excuse all english_(and_also_other)_speaking persons ... Sandro, this is the correct german phrase and it depends on german law for a "Verein" that you need this article ... "Der Mitgliedsbeitrag darf EURO 1.000 pro Jahr nicht ?bersteigen. ?nderungen dieses H?chstbetrages m?ssen durch die Mitgliederversammlung einstimmig beschlossen werden." 1.) The currency isn't fixed till today, in case of the founding in Germany we might choose EURO as well :-) 2.) this is the highest amount the NPO is getting from the members per year. 3.) you need to read the article in the content of all article and understand, that the board is handling in the name of all members, ... .. and all members together decide and vote for the member fee :-) Regards Gerold Am Sonntag, den 20.01.2008, 10:50 +0100 schrieb red_alert: > Hi > > 5.3: "contribution fee may be 1,000 per year or less" > > 1) 1,000 Euro? Or Pound Sterling? US dollars? Peanuts? Please specify :) > 2) wtf, 1,000? isn't that a little too high? or maybe even more than > just a little... or is there a good reason for that amount? > > I'd say everything else is ok. I'm not good in such things, tho. > > Regards > red / SandroMathys > > Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > > Hi There, > > > > this message particularly addresses the EMEA Ambassadors, although of > > course every Ambassador regardless of the geographical location is free > > to comment. > > > > Attached is the first initial draft of the Statutes of Fedora EMEA, > > which have been submitted for a principle (non-official) approval to the > > German Financial Department some time ago, too. > > > > As we have not yet heard back from the German Financial Department, we > > need to treat this initial draft with a little caution as far as > > additions or changes are concerned; The document is in PDF format for a > > reason ;-) I send this version of the document to all Ambassadors > > anyway, because we do need some time to read the document and collect > > all comments before the group of Ambassadors attending FOSDEM 2008 in > > Brussels, Belgium takes it up for voting. > > > > The Statutes are based on a set that has been previously accepted by the > > German Financial Department (a local LUG), with some minor changes as to > > what the geographical scope and possibilities (meetings in person, etc.) > > are. > > > > Please note that although the scope of the NPO according to these > > Statutes is very, very broad, the NPO will not (can not) interfere with > > normal Fedora Project's daily operations, principles or other > > contributors and Ambassadors regardless of the continent either of those > > take place in -it is primarily founded to provide a legal entity to > > those of us (Ambassadors) in the EMEA area that need to share some kind > > of resources (think of a purchasing an Event Kit that is being shipped > > from one place to another, and cover the back of those Ambassadors that > > now invest privately in getting a booth at an Event, etc.). > > > > Please also mind that none of this is set in stone, and the board (to be > > elected at FOSDEM 2008 if Statutes are accepted) will need to make the > > final decision on those topics. > > > > Any comments to what is in the document are welcome (via the mailing > > list or to myself in private); any comments as to what is happening here > > I would prefer you send to me in private to prevent any kind of > > discussion taking any direction we are going to regret at some point in > > time. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Jeroen van Meeuwen > > -kanarip > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From kanarip at kanarip.com Sun Jan 20 14:18:33 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:18:33 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA: Preliminary Statutes In-Reply-To: <47931981.9000702@the-psychiatry.ch> References: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> <47931981.9000702@the-psychiatry.ch> Message-ID: <47935839.7050806@kanarip.com> red_alert wrote: > Hi > > 5.3: "contribution fee may be 1,000 per year or less" > > 1) 1,000 Euro? Or Pound Sterling? US dollars? Peanuts? Please specify :) You're right, it should specify the currency. Noted. > 2) wtf, 1,000? isn't that a little too high? or maybe even more than > just a little... or is there a good reason for that amount? > Like Gerold already suggested too, this is a maximum contribution fee the NPO can request from it's members, and maximums are often high. I would not expect to see this maximum reached, ever, but from a legal point of view the NPO must have /a/ maximum. So you choose one that is not insanely high, but will also not limit you for many, many years to come. Money devaluates over time and given that the General Members Meeting must unanimously agree on raising or lowering this maximum, having to do so every 5, 10 or even 20 years would become a problem for any organization. > I'd say everything else is ok. I'm not good in such things, tho. > Thank you ;-) Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From armel.kermorvant at orange.fr Sun Jan 20 17:05:51 2008 From: armel.kermorvant at orange.fr (Armel Kermorvant) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:05:51 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-fr-list] REMINDER French Meeting today 1830 #fedora-meeting In-Reply-To: <20080120101050.3274a827@annifrid.mrtomlinux> References: <20080120101050.3274a827@annifrid.mrtomlinux> Message-ID: <1200848751.2906.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi guys, I'm sorry fo tonight I do not participate at this meeting. Thomas, about Linux Solutions I send a mail wednesday with my schedule and my availability, I hope I present all days. Sorry for tonight Cheers Armel Le dimanche 20 janvier 2008 ? 10:10 +0100, Thomas Canniot a ?crit : > This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and > _every_ interested people. > > 2008-01-20 / 18:30 UTC > > > IRC: freenode > #fedora-meeting > > > Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, > qui aura lieu ce dimanche (20 janv.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC > (freenode) #fedora-meeting . > > L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions > > N'h?sitez pas ? la modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent > int?ressants. > > Thomas Canniot > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-fr-list mailing list > Fedora-fr-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fr-list From red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch Sun Jan 20 18:41:28 2008 From: red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch (red_alert) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:41:28 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA: Preliminary Statutes In-Reply-To: <47935839.7050806@kanarip.com> References: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> <47931981.9000702@the-psychiatry.ch> <47935839.7050806@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <479395D8.8090104@the-psychiatry.ch> Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: >> 2) wtf, 1,000? isn't that a little too high? or maybe even more than >> just a little... or is there a good reason for that amount? >> > > Like Gerold already suggested too, this is a maximum contribution fee > the NPO can request from it's members, and maximums are often high. I > would not expect to see this maximum reached, ever, but from a legal > point of view the NPO must have /a/ maximum. So you choose one that is > not insanely high, but will also not limit you for many, many years to > come. Money devaluates over time and given that the General Members > Meeting must unanimously agree on raising or lowering this maximum, > having to do so every 5, 10 or even 20 years would become a problem for > any organization. Ok, that's the reason in favor of such a high amount. Are there no contras then? I know that in some countries the maximum fee is important when it gets to liability but AFAIK this is not the case in Germany (at least not with an e.V.). Something else to consider? ...if not, I'd say 1,000 Euro is fair. What initial fee are you going to propose at the formation, anyway? Regards red From kanarip at kanarip.com Sun Jan 20 19:26:24 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:26:24 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA: Preliminary Statutes In-Reply-To: <479395D8.8090104@the-psychiatry.ch> References: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> <47931981.9000702@the-psychiatry.ch> <47935839.7050806@kanarip.com> <479395D8.8090104@the-psychiatry.ch> Message-ID: <4793A060.2050004@kanarip.com> red_alert wrote: > Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: >>> 2) wtf, 1,000? isn't that a little too high? or maybe even more than >>> just a little... or is there a good reason for that amount? >>> >> >> Like Gerold already suggested too, this is a maximum contribution fee >> the NPO can request from it's members, and maximums are often high. I >> would not expect to see this maximum reached, ever, but from a legal >> point of view the NPO must have /a/ maximum. So you choose one that is >> not insanely high, but will also not limit you for many, many years to >> come. Money devaluates over time and given that the General Members >> Meeting must unanimously agree on raising or lowering this maximum, >> having to do so every 5, 10 or even 20 years would become a problem >> for any organization. > > > Ok, that's the reason in favor of such a high amount. Are there no > contras then? I know that in some countries the maximum fee is important > when it gets to liability but AFAIK this is not the case in Germany (at > least not with an e.V.). Something else to consider? > ...if not, I'd say 1,000 Euro is fair. > Well, imagine what it would look like if we said 3 billion is the maximum contribution fee. I'm not sure that would be accepted by the German Financial Department (so there's a contra). As I'm not German though maybe Gerold is in a better position to give you the proper answer ;-) > What initial fee are you going to propose at the formation, anyway? > We -anyone- can propose and reason for any amount of contribution fee, the trick is to find one the others agree with. As the Statutes describe, the contribution fee is a General Members Meeting's responsibility (2/3 majority of votes cast required -should these Statutes be accepted) -which is probably going to vote on what the board (to be elected still) proposes. So far the initial pseudo-official response to your question. Now in more general terms; There is of course the "minimum" contribution fee that makes a person become a "regular" member -this would be the mandatory fee. We /could/ also decide to have something like a "gold" or "platinum" membership. In some cases Associations decide a "gold" or "platinum" gets a certain discount at whatever the Association sells (in some cases you can imagine that includes event entrance tickets or merchandise). An Association could however also decide a "gold" or "platinum" member pays a higher contribution fee, but gets /nothing/ in return (besides the obvious kudo's from the other members). Then there's something we call "honorable member" (I'm sure I didn't translate that very well), which basically is a member that doesn't have to pay a contribution fee for the rest of his/her life -again, GMM would decide, mostly given due to exceptional achievements, etc, etc. Some of these forms of contribution fees or distinguishing different types of members will need to be in the Statutes as well, as well as being able to appoint those "honorable memberships" to anyone. Again, it's these things we may want to think about on beforehand, as changing the Statutes afterwards is way harder then getting them right rightaway. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch Sun Jan 20 20:13:32 2008 From: red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch (red_alert) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:13:32 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA: Preliminary Statutes In-Reply-To: <4793A060.2050004@kanarip.com> References: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> <47931981.9000702@the-psychiatry.ch> <47935839.7050806@kanarip.com> <479395D8.8090104@the-psychiatry.ch> <4793A060.2050004@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <4793AB6C.10409@the-psychiatry.ch> Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > We -anyone- can propose and reason for any amount of contribution fee, > the trick is to find one the others agree with. As the Statutes > describe, the contribution fee is a General Members Meeting's > responsibility (2/3 majority of votes cast required -should these > Statutes be accepted) -which is probably going to vote on what the board > (to be elected still) proposes. So far the initial pseudo-official > response to your question. > > Now in more general terms; There is of course the "minimum" contribution > fee that makes a person become a "regular" member -this would be the > mandatory fee. > > We /could/ also decide to have something like a "gold" or "platinum" > membership. In some cases Associations decide a "gold" or "platinum" > gets a certain discount at whatever the Association sells (in some cases > you can imagine that includes event entrance tickets or merchandise). An > Association could however also decide a "gold" or "platinum" member pays > a higher contribution fee, but gets /nothing/ in return (besides the > obvious kudo's from the other members). Then there's something we call > "honorable member" (I'm sure I didn't translate that very well), which > basically is a member that doesn't have to pay a contribution fee for > the rest of his/her life -again, GMM would decide, mostly given due to > exceptional achievements, etc, etc. > > Some of these forms of contribution fees or distinguishing different > types of members will need to be in the Statutes as well, as well as > being able to appoint those "honorable memberships" to anyone. > > Again, it's these things we may want to think about on beforehand, as > changing the Statutes afterwards is way harder then getting them right > rightaway. I was thinking about different types of membership as well. For starters, I'd suggest to make at least two different fees: one for natural and one for legal persons. As for silver/gold/platinum/whatever memberships...I'd not do that. I'd rather make basic/silver/.../whatever sponsorships. e.g. if the membership fee is set to a maximum of 1,000: - up to 1,000 contribution: (basic) sponsor - 1,000 - 2,000: silver sponsor - 2,000 - 5,000: gold sponsor - 5'000 and over: platinum sponsor Or maybe we should base the grades on the mandatory fee (which will probably change more often than the maximum fee) and express the different sponsorships in percents based on that. e.g. (based on the mandatory fee) - up to 100% of the mandatory fee: basic - up to 200%: silver - up to 500%: gold - over 500%: platinum ...of course, the latter would result in smaller contributions for each grade unless we state percentages like 1,000% which would look really greedy in turn. I'd say honorary members would be a good thing, but we should make sure that it's really hard to award it. 1) we wouldn't want to have too many of them, 2) the less such members there are and the harder it is to become one, the more "worth" it is to earn that sort of membership. ...maybe we could put something into the statutes that makes it harder. 3/4 of the GMM must agree, one must be a normal member for at least 5 years befor he/she can become a honorary member, ...what else could we do to make it harder? I'm eager to hear what others have to say about those points. Regards red From kanarip at kanarip.com Sun Jan 20 21:02:46 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:02:46 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA: Preliminary Statutes In-Reply-To: <4793AB6C.10409@the-psychiatry.ch> References: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> <47931981.9000702@the-psychiatry.ch> <47935839.7050806@kanarip.com> <479395D8.8090104@the-psychiatry.ch> <4793A060.2050004@kanarip.com> <4793AB6C.10409@the-psychiatry.ch> Message-ID: <4793B6F6.3070400@kanarip.com> red_alert wrote: > I was thinking about different types of membership as well. For > starters, I'd suggest to make at least two different fees: one for > natural and one for legal persons. > > As for silver/gold/platinum/whatever memberships...I'd not do that. I'd > rather make basic/silver/.../whatever sponsorships. > > e.g. if the membership fee is set to a maximum of 1,000: > - up to 1,000 contribution: (basic) sponsor > - 1,000 - 2,000: silver sponsor > - 2,000 - 5,000: gold sponsor > - 5'000 and over: platinum sponsor > > Or maybe we should base the grades on the mandatory fee (which will > probably change more often than the maximum fee) and express the > different sponsorships in percents based on that. > e.g. (based on the mandatory fee) > - up to 100% of the mandatory fee: basic > - up to 200%: silver > - up to 500%: gold > - over 500%: platinum > > ...of course, the latter would result in smaller contributions for each > grade unless we state percentages like 1,000% which would look really > greedy in turn. > I'm not sure how free we are in defining different types of memberships or sponsorships. Here also, Gerold may be in a better position to answer that. A legal person as a member would be saying; "hey, I support you", whereas a legal person as a sponsor is saying "hey, I support you and here's what you need to continue and expand what you're doing". Being completely different, I'm not sure we would want to distinguish between different types of sponsorships at all, other then maybe "primary" and "secondary" sponsorships. Either way, this is kind of far-fetched speculation on what might happen in some future whereas we're not sure we even need to describe such differentiation between sponsorships in the Statutes -opposed to memberships, I haven't seen sponsorships being mentioned anywhere before. So, at least in this discussion, let's stick to the memberships rather then all the relationships that might or might not be accomplished in the future. You suggest we should not differentiate between different kinds of memberships which I think is OK as it both simplifies the Statutes, bookkeeping and accounting, and isn't as obscure to (potential) new members. If anyone thinks differently though, now is the time to tell us ;-) > I'd say honorary members would be a good thing, but we should make sure > that it's really hard to award it. 1) we wouldn't want to have too many > of them, 2) the less such members there are and the harder it is to > become one, the more "worth" it is to earn that sort of membership. > > ...maybe we could put something into the statutes that makes it harder. > 3/4 of the GMM must agree, one must be a normal member for at least 5 > years befor he/she can become a honorary member, ...what else could we > do to make it harder? > If we're not getting any contra's, the concept of honorary members is getting in the Statutes. The way someone could become an honorary member is to be determined at a later point when we have something drafted up. I'm sure there'll be something such as a 3/4 majority GMM has to agree and maybe something like only the board can propose such, although I'm not much in favor of the minimum 5 years of membership limit. Anyone with ideas on the topic, feel free to draft something up that would fit right in with the Statutes and send it here. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From mrtom at fedoraproject.org Sun Jan 20 21:29:19 2008 From: mrtom at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:29:19 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA: Preliminary Statutes In-Reply-To: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> References: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <20080120222919.b38196ea.mrtom@fedoraproject.org> On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:33:34 +0100 Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Hi There, > > this message particularly addresses the EMEA Ambassadors, although of > course every Ambassador regardless of the geographical location is free > to comment. > > Attached is the first initial draft of the Statutes of Fedora EMEA, > which have been submitted for a principle (non-official) approval to the > German Financial Department some time ago, too. > > As we have not yet heard back from the German Financial Department, we > need to treat this initial draft with a little caution as far as > additions or changes are concerned; The document is in PDF format for a > reason ;-) I send this version of the document to all Ambassadors > anyway, because we do need some time to read the document and collect > all comments before the group of Ambassadors attending FOSDEM 2008 in > Brussels, Belgium takes it up for voting. > > The Statutes are based on a set that has been previously accepted by the > German Financial Department (a local LUG), with some minor changes as to > what the geographical scope and possibilities (meetings in person, etc.) > are. > > Please note that although the scope of the NPO according to these > Statutes is very, very broad, the NPO will not (can not) interfere with > normal Fedora Project's daily operations, principles or other > contributors and Ambassadors regardless of the continent either of those > take place in -it is primarily founded to provide a legal entity to > those of us (Ambassadors) in the EMEA area that need to share some kind > of resources (think of a purchasing an Event Kit that is being shipped > from one place to another, and cover the back of those Ambassadors that > now invest privately in getting a booth at an Event, etc.). > > Please also mind that none of this is set in stone, and the board (to be > elected at FOSDEM 2008 if Statutes are accepted) will need to make the > final decision on those topics. > > Any comments to what is in the document are welcome (via the mailing > list or to myself in private); any comments as to what is happening here > I would prefer you send to me in private to prevent any kind of > discussion taking any direction we are going to regret at some point in > time. > > Thank you, > > Kind regards, > > Jeroen van Meeuwen > -kanarip > Hi, I read the stautes and as promised here are my coments about them. In France, so as to avoid maybe misimpretation, we are used to definded terms in a 0 article. For example, we define Fedora, Open Source Software, mail (postal mail or email?), GNU/Linux, meeting, vote, signature (handwriting or not?) so as they can't be any misunderstanding while reading the statutes. The purpose is as well to avoit problems. For example, if you send e-mail to ask people to join a major meeting, with the vote of the board for example, and that it is mentionned in the statutes that a postal mail will be sent to ask people to come to the meeting, the meeting and all its content could be canceled because the statutes were not respected. Just my 2 cents. 4.1 "written request" > if someday you decide to permit people to fill an online formular on the web to subscribe to the association, their application won't be valid. Don't go into details like this, or define that "written" means for you that you assume it is also "written" when you fill up a form on da web. Same for 4.3 I see ntohing to add but at the 8.4 article. You should describe the tasks of the members of the board. What does the president, the vice president, the treasurer and the secretary do ? In fact, always the same, if some people became inactive, he could not be dismissed because of his inaction, as the statutes do not tell what he has to do. We had this problem in a lug in the North of France... this was damn crap. I don't like this idea of quorum ... it could also prevent the association to work fluently in the future. If people don't come to the meeting, nor expresses any word about it, it is their problem, and the association should not suffer from it. 7.4 I think that's all :) Cheers Thomas Canniot -MrTom -- Thomas Canniot From red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch Sun Jan 20 21:47:38 2008 From: red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch (red_alert) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:47:38 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA: Preliminary Statutes In-Reply-To: <4793B6F6.3070400@kanarip.com> References: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> <47931981.9000702@the-psychiatry.ch> <47935839.7050806@kanarip.com> <479395D8.8090104@the-psychiatry.ch> <4793A060.2050004@kanarip.com> <4793AB6C.10409@the-psychiatry.ch> <4793B6F6.3070400@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <4793C17A.6020701@the-psychiatry.ch> Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > You suggest we should not differentiate between different kinds of > memberships which I think is OK as it both simplifies the Statutes, > bookkeeping and accounting, and isn't as obscure to (potential) new > members. If anyone thinks differently though, now is the time to tell us > ;-) Not exactly. I'd like to have legal persons pay more than natural persons. i.e. having different mandatory/maximum fees for both. But without a difference in number of votes or so. > If we're not getting any contra's, the concept of honorary members is > getting in the Statutes. The way someone could become an honorary member > is to be determined at a later point when we have something drafted up. > I'm sure there'll be something such as a 3/4 majority GMM has to agree > and maybe something like only the board can propose such, although I'm > not much in favor of the minimum 5 years of membership limit. Me neither. Say 3/4 of GMM and the board Concordant...that'd be good. Regards red From kanarip at kanarip.com Mon Jan 21 00:27:10 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:27:10 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA: Preliminary Statutes In-Reply-To: <20080120222919.b38196ea.mrtom@fedoraproject.org> References: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> <20080120222919.b38196ea.mrtom@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4793E6DE.1000102@kanarip.com> Thomas Canniot wrote: > Hi, > > I read the stautes and as promised here are my coments about them. > > In France, so as to avoid maybe misimpretation, we are used to definded terms in a 0 article. For example, we define Fedora, Open Source Software, mail (postal mail or email?), GNU/Linux, meeting, vote, signature (handwriting or not?) so as they can't be any misunderstanding while reading the statutes. The purpose is as well to avoit problems. For example, if you send e-mail to ask people to join a major meeting, with the vote of the board for example, and that it is mentionned in the statutes that a postal mail will be sent to ask people to come to the meeting, the meeting and all its content could be canceled because the statutes were not respected. Just my 2 cents. > > 4.1 "written request" > if someday you decide to permit people to fill an online formular on the web to subscribe to the association, their application won't be valid. Don't go into details like this, or define that "written" means for you that you assume it is also "written" when you fill up a form on da web. > Same for 4.3 > > I see ntohing to add but at the 8.4 article. You should describe the tasks of the members of the board. What does the president, the vice president, the treasurer and the secretary do ? In fact, always the same, if some people became inactive, he could not be dismissed because of his inaction, as the statutes do not tell what he has to do. > We had this problem in a lug in the North of France... this was damn crap. > > I don't like this idea of quorum ... it could also prevent the association to work fluently in the future. If people don't come to the meeting, nor expresses any word about it, it is their problem, and the association should not suffer from it. 7.4 > > I think that's all :) > Hi Thomas, thank you for these very constructive comments. Some of these concerns I had, too (especially the "written" statements or empowering someone else to cast your vote and whether those votes had to be cast with the members being physically present at some location or that they could be submitted over a web-interface or email or IRC possibly). Others, please reply with your comments as I'll be watching this thread very closely and adjust the Statutes with some of the additions Thomas made unless I hear otherwise. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From kanarip at kanarip.com Mon Jan 21 00:44:38 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:44:38 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA: Preliminary Statutes In-Reply-To: <4793C17A.6020701@the-psychiatry.ch> References: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> <47931981.9000702@the-psychiatry.ch> <47935839.7050806@kanarip.com> <479395D8.8090104@the-psychiatry.ch> <4793A060.2050004@kanarip.com> <4793AB6C.10409@the-psychiatry.ch> <4793B6F6.3070400@kanarip.com> <4793C17A.6020701@the-psychiatry.ch> Message-ID: <4793EAF6.5060509@kanarip.com> red_alert wrote: > Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: >> You suggest we should not differentiate between different kinds of >> memberships which I think is OK as it both simplifies the Statutes, >> bookkeeping and accounting, and isn't as obscure to (potential) new >> members. If anyone thinks differently though, now is the time to tell >> us ;-) > > Not exactly. I'd like to have legal persons pay more than natural > persons. i.e. having different mandatory/maximum fees for both. But > without a difference in number of votes or so. > OK, very good point. So, do we want the Statutes to explicitly enable us to give legal persons to have a different kind of contribution fee then natural persons, or do we want to set it statically (percentile expression / something) ? Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch Mon Jan 21 01:20:43 2008 From: red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch (red_alert) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:20:43 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA: Preliminary Statutes In-Reply-To: <4793E6DE.1000102@kanarip.com> References: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> <20080120222919.b38196ea.mrtom@fedoraproject.org> <4793E6DE.1000102@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <4793F36B.9030804@the-psychiatry.ch> Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Thomas Canniot wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I read the stautes and as promised here are my coments about them. >> >> In France, so as to avoid maybe misimpretation, we are used to >> definded terms in a 0 article. For example, we define Fedora, Open >> Source Software, mail (postal mail or email?), GNU/Linux, meeting, >> vote, signature (handwriting or not?) so as they can't be any >> misunderstanding while reading the statutes. The purpose is as well to >> avoit problems. For example, if you send e-mail to ask people to join >> a major meeting, with the vote of the board for example, and that it >> is mentionned in the statutes that a postal mail will be sent to ask >> people to come to the meeting, the meeting and all its content could >> be canceled because the statutes were not respected. Just my 2 cents. >> >> 4.1 "written request" > if someday you decide to permit people to fill >> an online formular on the web to subscribe to the association, their >> application won't be valid. Don't go into details like this, or define >> that "written" means for you that you assume it is also "written" when >> you fill up a form on da web. >> Same for 4.3 >> >> I see ntohing to add but at the 8.4 article. You should describe the >> tasks of the members of the board. What does the president, the vice >> president, the treasurer and the secretary do ? In fact, always the >> same, if some people became inactive, he could not be dismissed >> because of his inaction, as the statutes do not tell what he has to do. >> We had this problem in a lug in the North of France... this was damn >> crap. >> >> I don't like this idea of quorum ... it could also prevent the >> association to work fluently in the future. If people don't come to >> the meeting, nor expresses any word about it, it is their problem, and >> the association should not suffer from it. 7.4 >> >> I think that's all :) >> > > > Others, please reply with your comments as I'll be watching this thread > very closely and adjust the Statutes with some of the additions Thomas > made unless I hear otherwise. I'm not sure If I understand that right, Thomas - would you give the GMM the quorum even if there's not half the members present? I'd say that's pretty dangerous. Still, I understand your point that organizing a second event is contraproductive. I'd say expand 7.4 to say that there must be a online (maybe over ML or a web-form) poll on the date and place of the GMM. Maybe we should also add that the meeting is only taking place if over 50% of the members announced their participation previously (or maybe 52% to be sure). It's very likely that 50% are at the meeting then and that no second meeting needs to be organized. On all other points, I agree on what MrTom said. Regards red From mrtom at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 21 08:06:19 2008 From: mrtom at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:06:19 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA: Preliminary Statutes In-Reply-To: <4793F36B.9030804@the-psychiatry.ch> References: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> <20080120222919.b38196ea.mrtom@fedoraproject.org> <4793E6DE.1000102@kanarip.com> <4793F36B.9030804@the-psychiatry.ch> Message-ID: <20080121090619.6c26e0dc@annifrid.mrtomlinux> Le Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:20:43 +0100, red_alert a ?crit : > Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > > Thomas Canniot wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I read the stautes and as promised here are my coments about them. > >> > >> In France, so as to avoid maybe misimpretation, we are used to > >> definded terms in a 0 article. For example, we define Fedora, Open > >> Source Software, mail (postal mail or email?), GNU/Linux, meeting, > >> vote, signature (handwriting or not?) so as they can't be any > >> misunderstanding while reading the statutes. The purpose is as > >> well to avoit problems. For example, if you send e-mail to ask > >> people to join a major meeting, with the vote of the board for > >> example, and that it is mentionned in the statutes that a postal > >> mail will be sent to ask people to come to the meeting, the > >> meeting and all its content could be canceled because the statutes > >> were not respected. Just my 2 cents. > >> > >> 4.1 "written request" > if someday you decide to permit people to > >> fill an online formular on the web to subscribe to the > >> association, their application won't be valid. Don't go into > >> details like this, or define that "written" means for you that you > >> assume it is also "written" when you fill up a form on da web. > >> Same for 4.3 > >> > >> I see ntohing to add but at the 8.4 article. You should describe > >> the tasks of the members of the board. What does the president, > >> the vice president, the treasurer and the secretary do ? In fact, > >> always the same, if some people became inactive, he could not be > >> dismissed because of his inaction, as the statutes do not tell > >> what he has to do. We had this problem in a lug in the North of > >> France... this was damn crap. > >> > >> I don't like this idea of quorum ... it could also prevent the > >> association to work fluently in the future. If people don't come > >> to the meeting, nor expresses any word about it, it is their > >> problem, and the association should not suffer from it. 7.4 > >> > >> I think that's all :) > >> > > > > > > Others, please reply with your comments as I'll be watching this > > thread very closely and adjust the Statutes with some of the > > additions Thomas made unless I hear otherwise. > > I'm not sure If I understand that right, Thomas - would you give the > GMM the quorum even if there's not half the members present? I'd say > that's pretty dangerous. Well I don't think so... I think an association lives thanks to the people who feels concerned by it. If more than half of the members are away, it would be a problem and maybe you couldn't held a meeting before waiting for cleaning up your member base. And don't forget there are proxies, normally you could be able to write down on a paper and say : "i trust this person he can vote for me" or "As i can't come, vote for this people / I agree the decision being made". > Still, I understand your point that organizing a second event is > contraproductive. I'd say expand 7.4 to say that there must be a > online (maybe over ML or a web-form) poll on the date and place of > the GMM. Maybe we should also add that the meeting is only taking > place if over 50% of the members announced their participation > previously (or maybe 52% to be sure). It's very likely that 50% are > at the meeting then and that no second meeting needs to be organized. > You could. The biggest lug in France sends email to you regularly so as to vote online if you can't come. > On all other points, I agree on what MrTom said. > > Regards > red > Cheers, Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For example, we define Fedora, Open >> >> Source Software, mail (postal mail or email?), GNU/Linux, meeting, >> >> vote, signature (handwriting or not?) so as they can't be any >> >> misunderstanding while reading the statutes. The purpose is as >> >> well to avoit problems. For example, if you send e-mail to ask >> >> people to join a major meeting, with the vote of the board for >> >> example, and that it is mentionned in the statutes that a postal >> >> mail will be sent to ask people to come to the meeting, the >> >> meeting and all its content could be canceled because the statutes >> >> were not respected. Just my 2 cents. >> >> >> >> 4.1 "written request" > if someday you decide to permit people to >> >> fill an online formular on the web to subscribe to the >> >> association, their application won't be valid. Don't go into >> >> details like this, or define that "written" means for you that you >> >> assume it is also "written" when you fill up a form on da web. >> >> Same for 4.3 >> >> >> >> I see ntohing to add but at the 8.4 article. You should describe >> >> the tasks of the members of the board. What does the president, >> >> the vice president, the treasurer and the secretary do ? In fact, >> >> always the same, if some people became inactive, he could not be >> >> dismissed because of his inaction, as the statutes do not tell >> >> what he has to do. We had this problem in a lug in the North of >> >> France... this was damn crap. >> >> >> >> I don't like this idea of quorum ... it could also prevent the >> >> association to work fluently in the future. If people don't come >> >> to the meeting, nor expresses any word about it, it is their >> >> problem, and the association should not suffer from it. 7.4 >> >> >> >> I think that's all :) >> >> >> > >> > >> > Others, please reply with your comments as I'll be watching this >> > thread very closely and adjust the Statutes with some of the >> > additions Thomas made unless I hear otherwise. >> >> I'm not sure If I understand that right, Thomas - would you give the >> GMM the quorum even if there's not half the members present? I'd say >> that's pretty dangerous. > > Well I don't think so... I think an association lives thanks to the > people who feels concerned by it. If more than half of the members are > away, it would be a problem and maybe you couldn't held a meeting > before waiting for cleaning up your member base. > And don't forget there are proxies, normally you could be able to write > down on a paper and say : "i trust this person he can vote for me" or > "As i can't come, vote for this people / I agree the decision being > made". ^^ The law wants that as the board is part of the member and act in the name of the member, that decissions like "member fee" or what is really important to decide, is done in the (lets call it) yearly "member-meeting" in which the members have to fullfill request from the law e.g. yearly commitment to the financial department etc. AND if you don't get the percantage you (!!!!!) decide in the statutes are in person at this meeting you have to announce a second meeting which is, no more depending on the amount of available members, written in stone. Let me try to make an example to clear out: We'll have 100 Users; we decide (by the statutes) that a voting is done, when 20% of the members vote at a meeting. So we go ahead, and write a invitation to all members, we meet on January 1st. So 81 persons of our members are not in front of us (including the board) at the 1st so we need to invite for a second meeting .... we invite for 1st of february, ... unfortunately there are only 10 persons who are coming and voting BUT ... because this is the second invitation this vote is law. So it's up to us to define the quote of "how many persons" must attend at such a meeting (which must be held yearly once) to decide something and it's up to everybody to attend the invitation (because the timeframe before the meeting is also given by the statutes) at the first time. AND the members have every time the possibility to WANT and initiate a member meeting if they are unsatisfied with the board for example ... Any questions? Any comments? Any more explanations? Hopefully in german, because my english is not the best *bg* > > >> Still, I understand your point that organizing a second event is >> contraproductive. I'd say expand 7.4 to say that there must be a >> online (maybe over ML or a web-form) poll on the date and place of >> the GMM. Maybe we should also add that the meeting is only taking >> place if over 50% of the members announced their participation >> previously (or maybe 52% to be sure). It's very likely that 50% are >> at the meeting then and that no second meeting needs to be organized. >> > > You could. The biggest lug in France sends email to you regularly so as > to vote online if you can't come. > >> On all other points, I agree on what MrTom said. >> >> Regards >> red >> > > Cheers, > > Thomas Regards Gerold From eagerclouds at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 13:37:04 2008 From: eagerclouds at gmail.com (Li, Songlin) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:37:04 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] introducing myself In-Reply-To: <1200786844.2362.0.camel@caleuche> References: <1200732997.7205.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1200786844.2362.0.camel@caleuche> Message-ID: Welcome to Fedora. 2008/1/20 Eduardo Villagr?n Morales : > > El s?b, 19-01-2008 a las 21:56 +1300, brendon escribi?: > > Hello to my fellow ambassadors, just writing to say hello and to > > introduce my self. > > > Welcome! > > My name is Brendon Toogood, I live > > in Oamaru New Zealand I have been > > using Fedora since FC2, FC3,FC4 i had a break to see what other versions > > of linux were around, then I have came back to FC8 which seems to be > > just as good and if not better than what I have remembered.I am glade to > > be part of such a good Project and a good team. > > > > > -- > Eduardo Villagr?n Morales > Embajador Fedora > Linuxdiinf.org > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Regards ----------------------------------------- Li, Songlin Beijing, China TEL: +86 0 138 104 957 91 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrtom at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 21 15:25:42 2008 From: mrtom at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:25:42 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA: Preliminary Statutes In-Reply-To: <1128.217.162.12.42.1200914139.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> <20080120222919.b38196ea.mrtom@fedoraproject.org> <4793E6DE.1000102@kanarip.com> <4793F36B.9030804@the-psychiatry.ch> <20080121090619.6c26e0dc@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <1128.217.162.12.42.1200914139.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <20080121162542.660e3c5c.mrtom@fedoraproject.org> On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:15:39 +0100 (CET) "Gerold" wrote: > OK, > > sorry I'm at work and have no access to my regular mailsystem and account, > but I think I have to reply here and try to describe a little ... > > > Le Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:20:43 +0100, > > red_alert a ??crit : > > > >> Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > >> > Thomas Canniot wrote: > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> I read the stautes and as promised here are my coments about them. > >> >> > >> >> In France, so as to avoid maybe misimpretation, we are used to > >> >> definded terms in a 0 article. For example, we define Fedora, Open > >> >> Source Software, mail (postal mail or email?), GNU/Linux, meeting, > >> >> vote, signature (handwriting or not?) so as they can't be any > >> >> misunderstanding while reading the statutes. The purpose is as > >> >> well to avoit problems. For example, if you send e-mail to ask > >> >> people to join a major meeting, with the vote of the board for > >> >> example, and that it is mentionned in the statutes that a postal > >> >> mail will be sent to ask people to come to the meeting, the > >> >> meeting and all its content could be canceled because the statutes > >> >> were not respected. Just my 2 cents. > >> >> > >> >> 4.1 "written request" > if someday you decide to permit people to > >> >> fill an online formular on the web to subscribe to the > >> >> association, their application won't be valid. Don't go into > >> >> details like this, or define that "written" means for you that you > >> >> assume it is also "written" when you fill up a form on da web. > >> >> Same for 4.3 > >> >> > >> >> I see ntohing to add but at the 8.4 article. You should describe > >> >> the tasks of the members of the board. What does the president, > >> >> the vice president, the treasurer and the secretary do ? In fact, > >> >> always the same, if some people became inactive, he could not be > >> >> dismissed because of his inaction, as the statutes do not tell > >> >> what he has to do. We had this problem in a lug in the North of > >> >> France... this was damn crap. > >> >> > >> >> I don't like this idea of quorum ... it could also prevent the > >> >> association to work fluently in the future. If people don't come > >> >> to the meeting, nor expresses any word about it, it is their > >> >> problem, and the association should not suffer from it. 7.4 > >> >> > >> >> I think that's all :) > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > Others, please reply with your comments as I'll be watching this > >> > thread very closely and adjust the Statutes with some of the > >> > additions Thomas made unless I hear otherwise. > >> > >> I'm not sure If I understand that right, Thomas - would you give the > >> GMM the quorum even if there's not half the members present? I'd say > >> that's pretty dangerous. > > > > Well I don't think so... I think an association lives thanks to the > > people who feels concerned by it. If more than half of the members are > > away, it would be a problem and maybe you couldn't held a meeting > > before waiting for cleaning up your member base. > > And don't forget there are proxies, normally you could be able to write > > down on a paper and say : "i trust this person he can vote for me" or > > "As i can't come, vote for this people / I agree the decision being > > made". > ^^ > The law wants that as the board is part of the member and act in the name > of the member, that decissions like "member fee" or what is really > important to decide, is done in the (lets call it) yearly "member-meeting" > in which the members have to fullfill request from the law e.g. yearly > commitment to the financial department etc. > > AND if you don't get the percantage you (!!!!!) decide in the statutes are > in person at this meeting you have to announce a second meeting which is, > no more depending on the amount of available members, written in stone. > > Let me try to make an example to clear out: > > We'll have 100 Users; we decide (by the statutes) that a voting is done, > when 20% of the members vote at a meeting. > So we go ahead, and write a invitation to all members, we meet on January > 1st. > So 81 persons of our members are not in front of us (including the board) > at the 1st so we need to invite for a second meeting .... > we invite for 1st of february, ... > unfortunately there are only 10 persons who are coming and voting BUT ... > because this is the second invitation this vote is law. > So it's up to us to define the quote of "how many persons" must attend at > such a meeting (which must be held yearly once) to decide something and > it's up to everybody to attend the invitation (because the timeframe > before the meeting is also given by the statutes) at the first time. > AND the members have every time the possibility to WANT and initiate a > member meeting if they are unsatisfied with the board for example ... > > Any questions? Any comments? > Any more explanations? Hopefully in german, because my english is not the > best *bg* > It was very clear, thanks ! Thomas From mrtom at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 21 15:25:42 2008 From: mrtom at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:25:42 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA: Preliminary Statutes In-Reply-To: <1128.217.162.12.42.1200914139.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> <20080120222919.b38196ea.mrtom@fedoraproject.org> <4793E6DE.1000102@kanarip.com> <4793F36B.9030804@the-psychiatry.ch> <20080121090619.6c26e0dc@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <1128.217.162.12.42.1200914139.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <20080121162542.660e3c5c.mrtom@fedoraproject.org> On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:15:39 +0100 (CET) "Gerold" wrote: > OK, > > sorry I'm at work and have no access to my regular mailsystem and account, > but I think I have to reply here and try to describe a little ... > > > Le Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:20:43 +0100, > > red_alert a ??crit : > > > >> Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > >> > Thomas Canniot wrote: > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> I read the stautes and as promised here are my coments about them. > >> >> > >> >> In France, so as to avoid maybe misimpretation, we are used to > >> >> definded terms in a 0 article. For example, we define Fedora, Open > >> >> Source Software, mail (postal mail or email?), GNU/Linux, meeting, > >> >> vote, signature (handwriting or not?) so as they can't be any > >> >> misunderstanding while reading the statutes. The purpose is as > >> >> well to avoit problems. For example, if you send e-mail to ask > >> >> people to join a major meeting, with the vote of the board for > >> >> example, and that it is mentionned in the statutes that a postal > >> >> mail will be sent to ask people to come to the meeting, the > >> >> meeting and all its content could be canceled because the statutes > >> >> were not respected. Just my 2 cents. > >> >> > >> >> 4.1 "written request" > if someday you decide to permit people to > >> >> fill an online formular on the web to subscribe to the > >> >> association, their application won't be valid. Don't go into > >> >> details like this, or define that "written" means for you that you > >> >> assume it is also "written" when you fill up a form on da web. > >> >> Same for 4.3 > >> >> > >> >> I see ntohing to add but at the 8.4 article. You should describe > >> >> the tasks of the members of the board. What does the president, > >> >> the vice president, the treasurer and the secretary do ? In fact, > >> >> always the same, if some people became inactive, he could not be > >> >> dismissed because of his inaction, as the statutes do not tell > >> >> what he has to do. We had this problem in a lug in the North of > >> >> France... this was damn crap. > >> >> > >> >> I don't like this idea of quorum ... it could also prevent the > >> >> association to work fluently in the future. If people don't come > >> >> to the meeting, nor expresses any word about it, it is their > >> >> problem, and the association should not suffer from it. 7.4 > >> >> > >> >> I think that's all :) > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > Others, please reply with your comments as I'll be watching this > >> > thread very closely and adjust the Statutes with some of the > >> > additions Thomas made unless I hear otherwise. > >> > >> I'm not sure If I understand that right, Thomas - would you give the > >> GMM the quorum even if there's not half the members present? I'd say > >> that's pretty dangerous. > > > > Well I don't think so... I think an association lives thanks to the > > people who feels concerned by it. If more than half of the members are > > away, it would be a problem and maybe you couldn't held a meeting > > before waiting for cleaning up your member base. > > And don't forget there are proxies, normally you could be able to write > > down on a paper and say : "i trust this person he can vote for me" or > > "As i can't come, vote for this people / I agree the decision being > > made". > ^^ > The law wants that as the board is part of the member and act in the name > of the member, that decissions like "member fee" or what is really > important to decide, is done in the (lets call it) yearly "member-meeting" > in which the members have to fullfill request from the law e.g. yearly > commitment to the financial department etc. > > AND if you don't get the percantage you (!!!!!) decide in the statutes are > in person at this meeting you have to announce a second meeting which is, > no more depending on the amount of available members, written in stone. > > Let me try to make an example to clear out: > > We'll have 100 Users; we decide (by the statutes) that a voting is done, > when 20% of the members vote at a meeting. > So we go ahead, and write a invitation to all members, we meet on January > 1st. > So 81 persons of our members are not in front of us (including the board) > at the 1st so we need to invite for a second meeting .... > we invite for 1st of february, ... > unfortunately there are only 10 persons who are coming and voting BUT ... > because this is the second invitation this vote is law. > So it's up to us to define the quote of "how many persons" must attend at > such a meeting (which must be held yearly once) to decide something and > it's up to everybody to attend the invitation (because the timeframe > before the meeting is also given by the statutes) at the first time. > AND the members have every time the possibility to WANT and initiate a > member meeting if they are unsatisfied with the board for example ... > > Any questions? Any comments? > Any more explanations? Hopefully in german, because my english is not the > best *bg* > It was very clear, thanks ! Thomas From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 17:42:53 2008 From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:42:53 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] introducing myself In-Reply-To: <1200732997.7205.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1200732997.7205.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On 19/01/2008, brendon wrote: > > Hello to my fellow ambassadors, just writing to say hello and to > introduce my self. > > My name is Brendon Toogood, I live in Oamaru New Zealand I have been > using Fedora since FC2, FC3,FC4 i had a break to see what other versions > of linux were around, then I have came back to FC8 which seems to be > just as good and if not better than what I have remembered.I am glade to > be part of such a good Project and a good team. Welcome TooGood, welcome to Fedora Freedom. regards mak Bangladesh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerold at lugd.org Mon Jan 21 20:59:12 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:59:12 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA: Preliminary Statutes In-Reply-To: <20080120222919.b38196ea.mrtom@fedoraproject.org> References: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> <20080120222919.b38196ea.mrtom@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1200949152.3685.43.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Just a short answer of the missing points from Thomas for clearance ... Am Sonntag, den 20.01.2008, 22:29 +0100 schrieb Thomas Canniot: > Hi, > > I read the stautes and as promised here are my coments about them. > > In France, so as to avoid maybe misimpretation, we are used to definded terms in a 0 article. For example, we define Fedora, Open Source Software, mail (postal mail or email?), GNU/Linux, meeting, vote, signature (handwriting or not?) so as they can't be any misunderstanding while reading the statutes. The purpose is as well to avoit problems. For example, if you send e-mail to ask people to join a major meeting, with the vote of the board for example, and that it is mentionned in the statutes that a postal mail will be sent to ask people to come to the meeting, the meeting and all its content could be canceled because the statutes were not respected. Just my 2 cents. > ^^ we decide how we invite; best is (in our case) by E-Mail; but what will you do if a member changes his E-mail and don`t inform us? > 4.1 "written request" > if someday you decide to permit people to fill an online formular on the web to subscribe to the association, their application won't be valid. Don't go into details like this, or define that "written" means for you that you assume it is also "written" when you fill up a form on da web. > Same for 4.3 > > I see ntohing to add but at the 8.4 article. You should describe the tasks of the members of the board. What does the president, the vice president, the treasurer and the secretary do ? In fact, always the same, if some people became inactive, he could not be dismissed because of his inaction, as the statutes do not tell what he has to do. > We had this problem in a lug in the North of France... this was damn crap. > ^^ That's a good question, indeed :-) Let me answer like a diplomat (which is very heavy for me): The Board represent the whole NPO to outside, to the law, to public and all other companys, entitys or the financial department for the anual declarion of the money ... you need in Germany a minimum of a president and his vice and we did it in our own entity the voice for the vice is splitted to two persons who can only act together ... again example(s): only ONE person who is president: if he dies in an accident (worst case) the entity is without any legal person who can be responsible and give declararion etc. one President, one vice: President goes and order for the entity a house; the Vice don`t like that and goes and cancel that house and buy another one ... because that such a situation can't never happen the vice-voice or let`s say "power" should be splitted to two persons together :-) A treasurer is also needed to divide the power of money away from the President; he has to do another job as looking for the memberships, the payments and all this administrative things. Can you imagine how the NPO should work? > I don't like this idea of quorum ... it could also prevent the association to work fluently in the future. If people don't come to the meeting, nor expresses any word about it, it is their problem, and the association should not suffer from it. 7.4 > > I think that's all :) > > Cheers > > Thomas Canniot > -MrTom -- Gerold Kassube -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From gerold at lugd.org Mon Jan 21 21:01:53 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:01:53 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA: Preliminary Statutes In-Reply-To: <4793B6F6.3070400@kanarip.com> References: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> <47931981.9000702@the-psychiatry.ch> <47935839.7050806@kanarip.com> <479395D8.8090104@the-psychiatry.ch> <4793A060.2050004@kanarip.com> <4793AB6C.10409@the-psychiatry.ch> <4793B6F6.3070400@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <1200949313.3685.47.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Hi all, this point you brought up here is future! First we have to bring up the basics! Please be careful and don`t through "normal membership" together with "funding" and other possibilitys to support ... Am Sonntag, den 20.01.2008, 22:02 +0100 schrieb Jeroen van Meeuwen: > red_alert wrote: > > I was thinking about different types of membership as well. For > > starters, I'd suggest to make at least two different fees: one for > > natural and one for legal persons. > > > > As for silver/gold/platinum/whatever memberships...I'd not do that. I'd > > rather make basic/silver/.../whatever sponsorships. > > > > e.g. if the membership fee is set to a maximum of 1,000: > > - up to 1,000 contribution: (basic) sponsor > > - 1,000 - 2,000: silver sponsor > > - 2,000 - 5,000: gold sponsor > > - 5'000 and over: platinum sponsor > > > > Or maybe we should base the grades on the mandatory fee (which will > > probably change more often than the maximum fee) and express the > > different sponsorships in percents based on that. > > e.g. (based on the mandatory fee) > > - up to 100% of the mandatory fee: basic > > - up to 200%: silver > > - up to 500%: gold > > - over 500%: platinum > > > > ...of course, the latter would result in smaller contributions for each > > grade unless we state percentages like 1,000% which would look really > > greedy in turn. > > > > I'm not sure how free we are in defining different types of memberships > or sponsorships. Here also, Gerold may be in a better position to answer > that. > > A legal person as a member would be saying; "hey, I support you", > whereas a legal person as a sponsor is saying "hey, I support you and > here's what you need to continue and expand what you're doing". Being > completely different, I'm not sure we would want to distinguish between > different types of sponsorships at all, other then maybe "primary" and > "secondary" sponsorships. Either way, this is kind of far-fetched > speculation on what might happen in some future whereas we're not sure > we even need to describe such differentiation between sponsorships in > the Statutes -opposed to memberships, I haven't seen sponsorships being > mentioned anywhere before. > > So, at least in this discussion, let's stick to the memberships rather > then all the relationships that might or might not be accomplished in > the future. > > You suggest we should not differentiate between different kinds of > memberships which I think is OK as it both simplifies the Statutes, > bookkeeping and accounting, and isn't as obscure to (potential) new > members. If anyone thinks differently though, now is the time to tell us ;-) > > > I'd say honorary members would be a good thing, but we should make sure > > that it's really hard to award it. 1) we wouldn't want to have too many > > of them, 2) the less such members there are and the harder it is to > > become one, the more "worth" it is to earn that sort of membership. > > > > ...maybe we could put something into the statutes that makes it harder. > > 3/4 of the GMM must agree, one must be a normal member for at least 5 > > years befor he/she can become a honorary member, ...what else could we > > do to make it harder? > > > > If we're not getting any contra's, the concept of honorary members is > getting in the Statutes. The way someone could become an honorary member > is to be determined at a later point when we have something drafted up. > I'm sure there'll be something such as a 3/4 majority GMM has to agree > and maybe something like only the board can propose such, although I'm > not much in favor of the minimum 5 years of membership limit. > > Anyone with ideas on the topic, feel free to draft something up that > would fit right in with the Statutes and send it here. > > Kind regards, > > Jeroen van Meeuwen > -kanarip > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Gerold Kassube -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From gerold at lugd.org Mon Jan 21 21:13:34 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:13:34 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA: Preliminary Statutes In-Reply-To: <4793A060.2050004@kanarip.com> References: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> <47931981.9000702@the-psychiatry.ch> <47935839.7050806@kanarip.com> <479395D8.8090104@the-psychiatry.ch> <4793A060.2050004@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <1200950014.3685.55.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Hi there :-) again me, sorry by answering all the mails even late; but at work, I have no possibility to do private things like answering mails :-) Am Sonntag, den 20.01.2008, 20:26 +0100 schrieb Jeroen van Meeuwen: > red_alert wrote: > > Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > >>> 2) wtf, 1,000? isn't that a little too high? or maybe even more than > >>> just a little... or is there a good reason for that amount? > >>> > >> > >> Like Gerold already suggested too, this is a maximum contribution fee > >> the NPO can request from it's members, and maximums are often high. I > >> would not expect to see this maximum reached, ever, but from a legal > >> point of view the NPO must have /a/ maximum. So you choose one that is > >> not insanely high, but will also not limit you for many, many years to > >> come. Money devaluates over time and given that the General Members > >> Meeting must unanimously agree on raising or lowering this maximum, > >> having to do so every 5, 10 or even 20 years would become a problem > >> for any organization. > > > > > > Ok, that's the reason in favor of such a high amount. Are there no > > contras then? I know that in some countries the maximum fee is important > > when it gets to liability but AFAIK this is not the case in Germany (at > > least not with an e.V.). Something else to consider? > > ...if not, I'd say 1,000 Euro is fair. ^^ Imagine, the first meeting can`t decide due a lack of attendees; on the second meeting there are only five members; the President and four other and they want to have the annual membership price increased to 10.000 Euro. And the vote is done by 3:2 so the vote is done and law and you have to pay .... Ok, it is a very abstract voting, but it could happen and if you have such a amount in the statutes with a amount of members which have to vote to CHANGE such things ... it can`t happen like above described ... > > > > Well, imagine what it would look like if we said 3 billion is the > maximum contribution fee. I'm not sure that would be accepted by the > German Financial Department (so there's a contra). As I'm not German > though maybe Gerold is in a better position to give you the proper > answer ;-) > > > What initial fee are you going to propose at the formation, anyway? > > > > We -anyone- can propose and reason for any amount of contribution fee, > the trick is to find one the others agree with. As the Statutes > describe, the contribution fee is a General Members Meeting's > responsibility (2/3 majority of votes cast required -should these > Statutes be accepted) -which is probably going to vote on what the board > (to be elected still) proposes. So far the initial pseudo-official > response to your question. > > Now in more general terms; There is of course the "minimum" contribution > fee that makes a person become a "regular" member -this would be the > mandatory fee. > ^^ Because of my Linux Usergroup is a computer "NPO" we decides to have a 2 expotential amount .... in our case we pay 2 exp. 11 == 1024 == EUR 10,25 per month :-) Just for example regards -- Gerold Kassube -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For example, we define Fedora, Open > > Source Software, mail (postal mail or email?), GNU/Linux, meeting, > > vote, signature (handwriting or not?) so as they can't be any > > misunderstanding while reading the statutes. The purpose is as well > > to avoit problems. For example, if you send e-mail to ask people to > > join a major meeting, with the vote of the board for example, and > > that it is mentionned in the statutes that a postal mail will be > > sent to ask people to come to the meeting, the meeting and all its > > content could be canceled because the statutes were not respected. > > Just my 2 cents. > > > ^^ > we decide how we invite; best is (in our case) by E-Mail; but what > will you do if a member changes his E-mail and don`t inform us? > > > 4.1 "written request" > if someday you decide to permit people to > > fill an online formular on the web to subscribe to the association, > > their application won't be valid. Don't go into details like this, > > or define that "written" means for you that you assume it is also > > "written" when you fill up a form on da web. Same for 4.3 > > > > I see ntohing to add but at the 8.4 article. You should describe > > the tasks of the members of the board. What does the president, the > > vice president, the treasurer and the secretary do ? In fact, > > always the same, if some people became inactive, he could not be > > dismissed because of his inaction, as the statutes do not tell what > > he has to do. We had this problem in a lug in the North of > > France... this was damn crap. > > > ^^ > That's a good question, indeed :-) > Let me answer like a diplomat (which is very heavy for me): > The Board represent the whole NPO to outside, to the law, to public > and all other companys, entitys or the financial department for the > anual declarion of the money ... > you need in Germany a minimum of a president and his vice and we did > it in our own entity the voice for the vice is splitted to two > persons who can only act together ... > again example(s): > only ONE person who is president: if he dies in an accident (worst > case) the entity is without any legal person who can be responsible > and give declararion etc. > one President, one vice: President goes and order for the entity a > house; the Vice don`t like that and goes and cancel that house and buy > another one ... because that such a situation can't never happen the > vice-voice or let`s say "power" should be splitted to two persons > together :-) > > A treasurer is also needed to divide the power of money away from the > President; he has to do another job as looking for the memberships, > the payments and all this administrative things. > > Can you imagine how the NPO should work? > Of course I can, but in the statutes, it should be written something like : the president reigns, the vice role is blablabla and the treasurer counts the cheques. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gerold at lugd.org Mon Jan 21 21:50:07 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:50:07 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA: Preliminary Statutes In-Reply-To: <20080121223829.22aac8c4@annifrid.mrtomlinux> References: <4792346E.1030109@kanarip.com> <20080120222919.b38196ea.mrtom@fedoraproject.org> <1200949152.3685.43.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <20080121223829.22aac8c4@annifrid.mrtomlinux> Message-ID: <1200952207.3685.57.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Thomas, ... please have a look at paragraph 8 and following: In legal matters, the association will only be represented by the Chair of the Board and by the vice-chair or vice-chairs of the Board jointly. The chairman and vice-chairmen are the Board as described in section 26 paragraph 2, sentence 1 of the BGB. The vice-chairmen have representative powers only in the event the chair is unforeseeable unavailable, or when instructed by the chair. 2. The Board conducts the business of the association and is responsible for all matters not covered by the Statutes of another body of the association. The Board has the following tasks: 1. Preparation of the agenda and convening of the General Members Meeting, 2. An annual business plan, annual financial statements and annual reports, 3. Preparation and execution of the decisions of the General Members Meeting, 4. The General Members Meeting decides on a proposal of the Board's rules. 5. The Board takes its decisions by a simple majority. It is allowed to make decisions only when the full Board is able to cast a vote. Representation and abstention is not permitted. Absent Board members can empower other Board members only in writing, describing what vote to cast. Written, telephone voting and voting by e-mail is allowed. Also allowed are votes cast on Internet Relay Chat channels allowing registered nicknames only, if and when the chair indicates each voter's identities are verified. Am Montag, den 21.01.2008, 22:38 +0100 schrieb Thomas Canniot: > Le Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:59:12 +0100, > Gerold Kassube a ?crit : > > > Just a short answer of the missing points from Thomas for > > clearance ... > > > > Am Sonntag, den 20.01.2008, 22:29 +0100 schrieb Thomas Canniot: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I read the stautes and as promised here are my coments about them. > > > > > > In France, so as to avoid maybe misimpretation, we are used to > > > definded terms in a 0 article. For example, we define Fedora, Open > > > Source Software, mail (postal mail or email?), GNU/Linux, meeting, > > > vote, signature (handwriting or not?) so as they can't be any > > > misunderstanding while reading the statutes. The purpose is as well > > > to avoit problems. For example, if you send e-mail to ask people to > > > join a major meeting, with the vote of the board for example, and > > > that it is mentionned in the statutes that a postal mail will be > > > sent to ask people to come to the meeting, the meeting and all its > > > content could be canceled because the statutes were not respected. > > > Just my 2 cents. > > > > > ^^ > > we decide how we invite; best is (in our case) by E-Mail; but what > > will you do if a member changes his E-mail and don`t inform us? > > > > > 4.1 "written request" > if someday you decide to permit people to > > > fill an online formular on the web to subscribe to the association, > > > their application won't be valid. Don't go into details like this, > > > or define that "written" means for you that you assume it is also > > > "written" when you fill up a form on da web. Same for 4.3 > > > > > > I see ntohing to add but at the 8.4 article. You should describe > > > the tasks of the members of the board. What does the president, the > > > vice president, the treasurer and the secretary do ? In fact, > > > always the same, if some people became inactive, he could not be > > > dismissed because of his inaction, as the statutes do not tell what > > > he has to do. We had this problem in a lug in the North of > > > France... this was damn crap. > > > > > ^^ > > That's a good question, indeed :-) > > Let me answer like a diplomat (which is very heavy for me): > > The Board represent the whole NPO to outside, to the law, to public > > and all other companys, entitys or the financial department for the > > anual declarion of the money ... > > you need in Germany a minimum of a president and his vice and we did > > it in our own entity the voice for the vice is splitted to two > > persons who can only act together ... > > again example(s): > > only ONE person who is president: if he dies in an accident (worst > > case) the entity is without any legal person who can be responsible > > and give declararion etc. > > one President, one vice: President goes and order for the entity a > > house; the Vice don`t like that and goes and cancel that house and buy > > another one ... because that such a situation can't never happen the > > vice-voice or let`s say "power" should be splitted to two persons > > together :-) > > > > A treasurer is also needed to divide the power of money away from the > > President; he has to do another job as looking for the memberships, > > the payments and all this administrative things. > > > > Can you imagine how the NPO should work? > > > > Of course I can, but in the statutes, it should be written something > like : the president reigns, the vice role is blablabla and the > treasurer counts the cheques. > I know their role, but if they are not written, they can't be obvious > and interpretation is on its way. There should be no obviousness, as > they all depend on people mind. No place for interpretation, or you may > have problem in the future. > > Thomas > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Gerold Kassube -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From gerold at lugd.org Tue Jan 22 20:17:07 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:17:07 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linuxtag 2008, Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <1201033027.3468.30.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> ***************************** *** english Version below *** ***************************** Hallo zusammen! Wie Ihr sicher schon der Homepage des Linuxtages [1] entnommen habt, ist der Linuxtag in diesem Jahr wieder in Berlin. Er findet in der Zeit vom 28. Mai bis einschl. 31. Mai 2008 statt. Fedora wird wieder mit einem gr??eren Stand vertreten sein, welcher vom "Linuxtag Team" der Fedora Ambassadors [2] organisiert wird. Wir w?rden uns freuen, wenn a.) von der Community Leute auf den Linuxtag kommen und b.) Der Eine oder Andere sich angesprochen f?hlt und mitmachen m?chte. Wir versprechen jede Menge Spass, Arbeit, Fun und die M?glichkeit viele Gr??en der Linux-Community einmal live zu erleben. Mit an 100%-tiger Wahrscheinlichkeit wird Paul Frields [3] den Fedora Project Verantwortlichen sowie auch Max Spevack [4] seinen Vorg?nger am Linuxtag von Fedora-Seite aus vertreten sein. Wer Interesse hat mitzuarbeiten, sei es als "Standpersonal" oder im "OrgaTeam" der m?ge sich bitte melden! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Dear *, maybe you all noticed from the homepage of Linuxtag [1] that the event is again in Berlin this year. He will take place from 2008-05-28 till 2008-05-31. The Fedora Project will be present with a bigger booth, which will be organized by the "Linuxtag Team" of the Fedora Ambassadors [2]. We would be pleased, if a.) Community Member will visit us at the LInuxtag and b.) the one or other will feel spoken to help and attend us as team. We can promise a lot of fun, work and the possibility to meet in person some honors of the worldwide Linux community live. Not per 100% for sure, but we hope that Paul Frields [3] as Fedora Project Leader and also Max Spevack [4] as former Project Leader will be present. Who is interested in teamwork, maybe as "booth personal" nor in the "OrgaTeam" fell free and contact me or someone out of the team ... 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There will be Gentoo & Ubuntu exhibits, it would be nice if someone could help represent Fedora, my favorite Laptop distro. -Thanks, Art at JAX Florida Linux Show at UNF, February 11 2008 http://www.floridalinuxshow.com ======================================================= News Update - The Florida Linux Show 2008 Speaker Schedule posted. The Florida Linux Show 2008 will be cutting off the Free Linux User Group Admission on January 30th, 2008. Please Register Soon... Contact: Rod Sharp, Director Florida Linux Show 2008 - www.floridalinuxshow.com Email: rod at floridalinuxshow.com Florida Linux Show 2008 | GatorLUG http://www.gatorlug.org/node/190 Florida Linux Show 2008 | JaxLUG http://wiki.jaxlug.org/index.php/Current_events -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list -- Jon Stanley Fedora Bug Wrangler jstanley at fedoraproject.org From tcallawa at redhat.com Sat Jan 26 13:11:46 2008 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom Callaway) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:11:46 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] My scheduled conferences Message-ID: <1201353106.3951.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello fellow ambassadors! For those of you who may not have yet heard, I'm the new Fedora Engineering Manager inside Red Hat. You can think of it this way: If Paul Frields is Captain Kirk, I'm Mr. Spock. ;) Since Paul can't be everywhere, we've decided that we'll be sharing some of the load on conference attendance. I'll let Paul speak to what he has on his calendar, but here is what I have penciled in on mine (I haven't updated the wiki yet, but I will, I promise): Feb 8th - 10th, 2008 - SCALE 6X - Los Angeles, CA, USA Feb 23rd - 24th, 2008 - FOSDEM - Brussel, Belgium March 14th - 16th, 2008 - PyCon - Chicago, IL, USA May 28th - 31st, 2008 - LinuxTag - Berlin, Germany July 23rd - 26th, 2008 - Linux Symposium - Ottawa, Canada Oct 10th - 11th, 2008 - Ohio LinuxFest - Columbus, OH, USA This is by no means a complete list, it is simply what I've got penciled in right now. If there is an event that you would like me to attend on behalf of Fedora, please let me know, and I'll see if I can work it in. Also, if anyone could give me a recommendation for lodging at FOSDEM (preferrably in the same place as other Fedora folks), I would be very grateful. Thanks, ~spot From gerold at lugd.org Sat Jan 26 13:54:19 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:54:19 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] My scheduled conferences In-Reply-To: <1201353106.3951.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1201353106.3951.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1201355659.5329.8.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Hey Tom ... it'll be a pleasure for Europe, especially for me to meet you again in person on FOSDEM and also on Linuxtag :-) For Linuxtag I want to ask you, what you`re thinking about your task there. Are you willing to give a talk? CfP has closed a few days before but I'm sure I'll get a slot if you really want to have one nor you need one. Or do you come to help us at the booth and answer questions? Let me hear and read what`s your primary duty for/in "my" event that we can support you with the best we have ... Regards Gerold PS.: maybe is there better off-Ml conversation the right way. I`m sure you'll have my addy :-) Am Samstag, den 26.01.2008, 08:11 -0500 schrieb Tom Callaway: > Hello fellow ambassadors! > > For those of you who may not have yet heard, I'm the new Fedora > Engineering Manager inside Red Hat. You can think of it this way: If > Paul Frields is Captain Kirk, I'm Mr. Spock. ;) > > Since Paul can't be everywhere, we've decided that we'll be sharing some > of the load on conference attendance. I'll let Paul speak to what he has > on his calendar, but here is what I have penciled in on mine (I haven't > updated the wiki yet, but I will, I promise): > > Feb 8th - 10th, 2008 - SCALE 6X - Los Angeles, CA, USA > > Feb 23rd - 24th, 2008 - FOSDEM - Brussel, Belgium > > March 14th - 16th, 2008 - PyCon - Chicago, IL, USA > > May 28th - 31st, 2008 - LinuxTag - Berlin, Germany > > July 23rd - 26th, 2008 - Linux Symposium - Ottawa, Canada > > Oct 10th - 11th, 2008 - Ohio LinuxFest - Columbus, OH, USA > > This is by no means a complete list, it is simply what I've got penciled > in right now. If there is an event that you would like me to attend on > behalf of Fedora, please let me know, and I'll see if I can work it in. > > Also, if anyone could give me a recommendation for lodging at FOSDEM > (preferrably in the same place as other Fedora folks), I would be very > grateful. > > Thanks, > > ~spot > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Gerold Kassube -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So, I'm pretty sure that Paul also plans to attend LinuxTag, so if possible, we should try to get him a speaker slot. I'll probably just help out at the booth, and possibly run a BOF. ~spot From linux at elfshadow.net Sat Jan 26 14:17:00 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:17:00 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] My scheduled conferences In-Reply-To: <1201353106.3951.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1201353106.3951.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <10e0a9b00801260617v1b162050i69c5c947fa15a2d9@mail.gmail.com> On Jan 26, 2008 8:11 AM, Tom Callaway wrote: > > Oct 10th - 11th, 2008 - Ohio LinuxFest - Columbus, OH, USA It will be great having you back out to the Ohio Linux Fest! It should be another great event this year. --Jeffrey From fcrippa at byte-code.com Sat Jan 26 18:53:09 2008 From: fcrippa at byte-code.com (Francesco Crippa) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:53:09 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fosdem2008 BeerEvent In-Reply-To: <200801182323.29062.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <133534428.8581201373589754.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> ----- "JoergSimon" wrote: > Hello Fosdem Attendees, > > normally - first work then fun ;-) > but some of you/us will arraive > Friday 22.02. in Brussels. > Is there something planed? > Fosdem BeerEvent ? http://fosdem.org/2008/beerevent > or Dinner with the CENTOS People like last year ? I'm planning to arrive on Friday (I have a reservation in the same hotel of Gerold). +1 for the dinner and beers all together ;-) We could organize Friday evening during next irc meeting. See you then bye Francesco From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sat Jan 26 20:13:39 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:13:39 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fosdem2008 BeerEvent In-Reply-To: References: <200801182323.29062.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <133534428.8581201373589754.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: 2008/1/26, Francesco Ugolini : > > I approve the beer event (i will arrive firday), what do you think about a > Fedora Beer Event? > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > > 2008/1/26, Francesco Crippa : > > > > ----- "JoergSimon" wrote: > > > Hello Fosdem Attendees, > > > > > > normally - first work then fun ;-) > > > but some of you/us will arraive > > > Friday 22.02. in Brussels. > > > Is there something planed? > > > Fosdem BeerEvent ? http://fosdem.org/2008/beerevent > > > or Dinner with the CENTOS People like last year ? > > > > I'm planning to arrive on Friday (I have a reservation in the same hotel > > of Gerold). > > +1 for the dinner and beers all together ;-) > > > > We could organize Friday evening during next irc meeting. > > > > See you then > > bye > > > > Francesco > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I`ll plan to fly in (by car) latest at 8 p.m. Regards Gerold Am Samstag, den 26.01.2008, 21:13 +0100 schrieb Francesco Ugolini: > > > 2008/1/26, Francesco Ugolini : > I approve the beer event (i will arrive firday), what do you > think about a Fedora Beer Event? > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > > 2008/1/26, Francesco Crippa : > ----- "JoergSimon" wrote: > > Hello Fosdem Attendees, > > > > normally - first work then fun ;-) > > but some of you/us will arraive > > Friday 22.02. in Brussels. > > Is there something planed? > > Fosdem BeerEvent ? http://fosdem.org/2008/beerevent > > or Dinner with the CENTOS People like last year ? > > I'm planning to arrive on Friday (I have a reservation > in the same hotel of Gerold). > +1 for the dinner and beers all together ;-) > > We could organize Friday evening during next irc > meeting. > > See you then > bye > > Francesco > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Gerold Kassube -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I`ll plan to fly in (by > car) latest at 8 p.m. > Please note that in Belgium flying by car has a speed limit Gerold ;-) -Jeroen From gerold at lugd.org Sat Jan 26 22:36:47 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:36:47 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fosdem2008 BeerEvent In-Reply-To: <479BAED2.1000408@kanarip.com> References: <200801182323.29062.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <133534428.8581201373589754.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <1201380298.5329.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <479BAED2.1000408@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <1201387007.5329.42.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> I'll use my speed control, Ol' friend :-) Am Samstag, den 26.01.2008, 23:06 +0100 schrieb Jeroen van Meeuwen: > Gerold Kassube wrote: > > I'll also arrive on friday afternoon / night. 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They are looking for more Vendors, EDUs & Organizations that would like to setup a Booth. If you know folks in the area that would be interested in speaking or sponsoring an exhibit, please let us know asap. Perhaps a presentation or two could be recycled from FUDcon? There will be Gentoo & Ubuntu exhibits, it would be nice if someone could help represent Fedora, my favorite Laptop distro. -Thanks, Art at JAX Florida Linux Show at UNF, February 11 2008 http://www.floridalinuxshow.com ======================================================= News Update - The Florida Linux Show 2008 Speaker Schedule posted. The Florida Linux Show 2008 will be cutting off the Free Linux User Group Admission on January 30th, 2008. Please Register Soon... Contact: Rod Sharp, Director Florida Linux Show 2008 - www.floridalinuxshow.com Email: rod at floridalinuxshow.com Florida Linux Show 2008 | GatorLUG http://www.gatorlug.org/node/190 Florida Linux Show 2008 | JaxLUG http://wiki.jaxlug.org/index.php/Current_events -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list -- Jon Stanley Fedora Bug Wrangler jstanley at fedoraproject.org -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From ankur at ankurs.com Tue Jan 29 19:19:17 2008 From: ankur at ankurs.com (Ankur Shrivastava) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:49:17 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fwd: [info] LUG Manipal's First Fedora 8 Install Fest In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For the First time in History of Manipal a Linux ( Fedora 8 ) Install Fest took place on the Campus, it was organized by Linux user Group Manipal. It was Basically a 2 Day Fest, on 24th a Pre-Install Fest / Meet was there where participants were Informed about the requirements, advantages and Importance of GNU/Linux and what all we will be doing in the second day i.e. 25th , there were all information given about various events held by companies inviting students to innovate. The Day ended with the collection of DVD to be burned for 25th Main Fest and some 45+ DVD's were collected with DVD's still coming till start of Second day Second day began with partitioning and distribution of DVD's after which the main install fest began and all the steps were shown and explained, there was some DVD corruption / Improper burning in 1-2 DVD's but everything else was just fine, a script was prepared for upgrading Compiz and enabling 3D effects for the HP 6515b laptops, the script handled most of the task which were to be done in command line though all people were explained what it did but since most of the people were First Time users it really made the task of configuring the system very easy, rest laptops faced no problems so they directly booted in Graphical mode already being out of time the Install Fest was Finished with some problems still remaining which were solved Me (Ankur Shrivastava ) and Dhananjay Shingh Organized and guided the Install Fest.......... We are looking forward for Organizing more events like these Images could be found here http://flickr.com/photos/ankurkingofnet/sets/72157600264068727/ - *Email*: ankur at ankurs.com - *IRC*: ankurs - *GPG key*: 5A952E95 - *Fedora Account*: ankur -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmbabich at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 20:39:08 2008 From: jmbabich at gmail.com (John Babich) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:39:08 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fwd: [info] LUG Manipal's First Fedora 8 Install Fest In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9d2c731f0801291239i6ec33786rc3f01f76906133f4@mail.gmail.com> 2008/1/29 Ankur Shrivastava : > For the First time in History of Manipal a Linux ( Fedora 8 ) Install Fest > took place on the Campus, it was organized by Linux user Group Manipal. It > was Basically a 2 Day Fest, on 24th a Pre-Install Fest / Meet was there > where participants were Informed about the requirements, advantages and > Importance of GNU/Linux and what all we will be doing in the second day i.e. > 25th , there were all information given about various events held by > companies inviting students to innovate. The Day ended with the collection > of DVD to be burned for 25th Main Fest and some 45+ DVD's were collected > with DVD's still coming till start of Second day > < snipped informative material >B Thanks for the event report! Sounds like it was fun and got Fedora 8 out into the hands of a lot of eager people. Best Regards, John Babich Fedora Ambassador From fhornain at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 08:02:31 2008 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:02:31 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM 2008 SPEAKERS 2 Message-ID: <3161376e0801310002g30f56c17q420c18a06cf2ca5e@mail.gmail.com> Dear *, As the FOSDEM '08 is coming relatively quickly and as we still need more speakers. if you are intereseted, you can register at the Fedora FOSDEM 08 wiki page. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2008 FYI, the deadline for sending in schedule information is ***************************** ***** Friday 2008-02-01 ***** ***************************** which is *end of this week* Thanks for your comprehension Kind regards Frederic From fhornain at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 08:06:57 2008 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:06:57 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM ACCOMMODATION DISCOUNT Message-ID: <3161376e0801310006u74b0e38dv8f014e560aaa0e0a@mail.gmail.com> We have a bunch of hotel rooms left at a preferential rate at the Novotel Grand'Place [1], at 105 EUR / 115 EUR (single/double room, including breakfast) per night (it's 50% off the regular price). We know it's really short notice, and the deadline is *end of this week*, but if you're interested use the PDF form attached to this email and send it directly to the hotel, either by fax or by email (see PDF). About 20-25 rooms are left, first come first served ;) [1]http://www.novotel.com/novotel/fichehotel/gb/nov/1030/fiche_hotel.shtml Kind Regards Frederic Hornain http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have booked my room and as you remember my E-Mail I pay EUR 79 for a single / double room at a ***** Hotel http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/brubr-renaissance-brussels-hotel/ But once again; thanks! c u soon Gerold Am Donnerstag, den 31.01.2008, 09:06 +0100 schrieb Frederic Hornain: > We have a bunch of hotel rooms left at a preferential rate at > the Novotel Grand'Place [1], at 105 EUR / 115 EUR (single/double room, > including breakfast) per night (it's 50% off the regular price). > > We know it's really short notice, and the deadline is *end of this week*, > but if you're interested use the PDF form attached to this email and > send it directly to the hotel, either by fax or by email (see PDF). > > About 20-25 rooms are left, first come first served ;) > > [1]http://www.novotel.com/novotel/fichehotel/gb/nov/1030/fiche_hotel.shtml > > > Kind Regards > Frederic Hornain > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FredericHornain > > ----------------------------------------------------- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Olpc mailing list > olpc-open at laptop.org > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Gerold Kassube -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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