[Ambassadors] EMEA: Preliminary Statutes

Gerold Kassube gerold at lugd.org
Mon Jan 21 20:59:12 UTC 2008

Just a short answer of the missing points from Thomas for clearance ...

Am Sonntag, den 20.01.2008, 22:29 +0100 schrieb Thomas Canniot:

> Hi,
> I read the stautes and as promised here are my coments about them.
> In France, so as to avoid maybe misimpretation, we are used to definded terms in a 0 article. For example, we define Fedora, Open Source Software, mail (postal mail or email?), GNU/Linux, meeting, vote, signature (handwriting or not?) so as they can't be any misunderstanding while reading the statutes. The purpose is as well to avoit problems. For example, if you send e-mail to ask people to join a major meeting, with the vote of the board for example, and that it is mentionned in the statutes that a postal mail will be sent to ask people to come to the meeting, the meeting and all its content could be canceled because the statutes were not respected. Just my 2 cents.
we decide how we invite; best is (in our case) by E-Mail; but what will
you do if a member changes his E-mail and don`t inform us?

> 4.1 "written request" > if someday you decide to permit people to fill an online formular on the web to subscribe to the association, their application won't be valid. Don't go into details like this, or define that "written" means for you that you assume it is also "written" when you fill up a form on da web.
> Same for 4.3
> I see ntohing to add but at the 8.4 article. You should describe the tasks of the members of the board. What does the president, the vice president, the treasurer and the secretary do ? In fact, always the same, if some people became inactive, he could not be dismissed because of his inaction, as the statutes do not tell what he has to do.
> We had this problem in a lug in the North of France... this was damn crap.
That's a good question, indeed :-)
Let me answer like a diplomat (which is very heavy for me):
The Board represent the whole NPO to outside, to the law, to public and
all other companys, entitys or the financial department for the anual
declarion of the money ...
you need in Germany a minimum of a president and his vice and we did it
in our own entity the voice for the vice is splitted to two persons who
can only act together ...
again example(s):
only ONE person who is president: if he dies in an accident (worst case)
the entity is without any legal person who can be responsible and give
declararion etc.
one President, one vice: President goes and order for the entity a
house; the Vice don`t like that and goes and cancel that house and buy
another one ... because that such a situation can't never happen the
vice-voice or let`s say "power" should be splitted to two persons
together :-)

A treasurer is also needed to divide the power of money away from the
President; he has to do another job as looking for the memberships, the
payments and all this administrative things.

Can you imagine how the NPO should work?

> I don't like this idea of quorum ...  it could also prevent the association to work fluently in the future. If people don't come to the meeting, nor expresses any word about it, it is their problem, and the association should not suffer from it. 7.4
> I think that's all :)
> Cheers
> Thomas Canniot
> -MrTom
Gerold Kassube <gerold at lugd.org>
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