From matiasmaceira at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 00:42:53 2008 From: matiasmaceira at gmail.com (matias maceira) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:42:53 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hello In-Reply-To: References: <1214863042.22130.93.camel@minime> Message-ID: <933cb3780806301742j32b3e492y9329d55a4eb86768@mail.gmail.com> Welcome. Matias Maceira 2008/6/30 Juan M. Rodriguez : > > > 2008/6/30 Lucas Saboya : >> >> wellcome ;D >> >> 2008/6/30 Junior Tomazelli : >>> >>> Welcome Charlie to the side free of force. >>> >>> -- >>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>> believed to be clean. >>> >>> :::: CONTRIBUA COM O MEIO AMBIENTE. N?O IMPRIMA ESTA MENSAGEM ::::: >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > Welcome to the ambassadors list! > > > -- > Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno > Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos > Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > From ailsoncamargo at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 01:50:27 2008 From: ailsoncamargo at gmail.com (Ailson Camargo de Sousa - ITO) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:50:27 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hello In-Reply-To: <1214863042.22130.93.camel@minime> References: <1214863042.22130.93.camel@minime> Message-ID: <640d350b0806301850p106a6d1egc98f9fcce3980916@mail.gmail.com> Welcome, on the ship Charlie! if you want help, here is you should look 2008/6/30 Charlie D Whitehead III : > Hello, my name is Charlie and I am new to the ambassador team. I am > currently in Massachusetts USA, and excited about getting started. > > -- > Charlie > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Ailson Camargo de Sousa Engenharia Mecatr?nica - UnC - Curitibanos _________________________ Linux User #448828 Fone (49)-8808-0586 ailsoncamargo at gmail.com itocamargo at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 13:46:11 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:16:11 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] XFCE stickers. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Does anyone has any clue about them? Someone asked me for them. :) -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 04:03:07 2008 From: chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com (Dipanjan Chakraborty) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:33:07 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. In-Reply-To: References: <6dd1343e0806230935i3318ccc0x548a72400e3afc5f@mail.gmail.com> <5ac533d50806232214i386d14b0g5078df7d32b71e3c@mail.gmail.com> <57173.VwBUX1dRCno=.1214297192.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <5ac533d50806240343s5d0d104bt4f97bac3b023312c@mail.gmail.com> <37812.VwBUX1dRCno=.1214309789.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: I am taking the documents to college today for submission. Dipanjan Chakraborty. On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 12:37 PM, susmit shannigrahi < thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com> wrote: > On 6/29/08, Dipanjan Chakraborty wrote: > > I had talked to the training and placement cell in our college, as I had > > said earlier. They had asked me to detail the entire process. So I have > > prepared a draft . There are two documents. One is a letter approaching > the > > college, and the other is a description of fedora. I am attaching both. > > please check them if any additions or deletions are to be made. Am I > > entitled to sign the letter? > > There's another point, do I write fedora with a small 'f' or a capital > 'F'? > > an/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Looking into the docs. 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Best regards Francesco Ugolini on behalf of FAmSCo From gerold at lugd.org Wed Jul 2 11:15:43 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:15:43 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] New LATAM Administrator In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8020.217.162.12.42.1214997343.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Dear FAmSCo, could you please so kind and explain this point?! Challenges, orders etc. which belong to that Administrator and the reason behind that choice (not the person himself) will be helpfull for (at least me) to understand ... Thanks in advance gerold > After a long discussion, FAmSCo has nominated as LATAM Ambassadors > Administrator (after reviewing all the community processes in LATAM) > one of its member, Rodrigo Padula, who demonstrate a long and great > leadership in the LATAM community. > > He will be directly connected with FAmSCo and he will be the resources > bridge for all the LATAM community, he will follow the new membership > processes for LATAM (following the Ambassadors New Members rules) > giving a home language support. > > Good luck Rodrigo! > > Best regards > > Francesco Ugolini > on behalf of FAmSCo > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From wcervini at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 2 11:29:44 2008 From: wcervini at fedoraproject.org (Walter Cervini) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 06:59:44 +1930 Subject: [Ambassadors] New LATAM Administrator In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9d1478d80807020429o4c3ea397h2369068ee7e3e52f@mail.gmail.com> Congratulation Rodrigo. 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URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 2 12:47:27 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:47:27 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] New LATAM Administrator In-Reply-To: <8020.217.162.12.42.1214997343.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <8020.217.162.12.42.1214997343.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: 2008/7/2 Gerold : > Dear FAmSCo, > > could you please so kind and explain this point?! > Challenges, orders etc. which belong to that Administrator and the reason > behind that choice (not the person himself) will be helpfull for (at least > me) to understand ... > > Thanks in advance > > gerold > > >> After a long discussion, FAmSCo has nominated as LATAM Ambassadors >> Administrator (after reviewing all the community processes in LATAM) >> one of its member, Rodrigo Padula, who demonstrate a long and great >> leadership in the LATAM community. >> >> He will be directly connected with FAmSCo and he will be the resources >> bridge for all the LATAM community, he will follow the new membership >> processes for LATAM (following the Ambassadors New Members rules) >> giving a home language support. >> >> Good luck Rodrigo! >> >> Best regards >> >> Francesco Ugolini >> on behalf of FAmSCo >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > The main reason is that LATAM community is growing fast and it's necessary to give a point of reference for its members. It's necessary to improve the community experience and define a bridge between FAmSCo and LATAM community. We, FAmSCo, think it's necessary to work on the localization of the Ambassadors project, maintaining, moreover, a centralization (general policies are made by the whole Ambassadors Project, like FAmSCo etc.), and that's another way to offer to the community a chance to develop new interactions and favouring a constant growth. LATAM community will be managed by Rodrigo. a trusted, well know, Ambassadors and FAmSCo member, following the Ambassadors Policies (e.g. New Membership Policies). This is only a step in this way. LATAM community demonstrated great capacities in the past and in the future with events and activities (see this FY Budget and see all the initiatives started in LATAM): all those one require a person who can powerfully manage and help. Hoping I answered your question Francesco Ugolini From neo.reeves at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 17:08:01 2008 From: neo.reeves at gmail.com (Neo Reeves) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:08:01 +0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] My Intro Message-ID: Dear Ambassedors, I am a new member to the Ambassadors worldwide, and I am from Maldives. My name is Sameeh and you can find more details about me on my wiki page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohamedSameeh I work for a government Organization in Maldives and am the Internet/Linux Administrator there. I've encouraged the management to switch most of the important servers in our organization to Linux. And I've proven that to my boss that Linux is far better and advanced to be used as a server and now he would never doubt it. I also promote Linux, esp. Fedora amongst desktop users (friends and family) and helped them overcome the difficulties they have using it. I hope to expand the efforts I put in encouraging Linux in Maldives as time permits me. 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And > I've proven that to my boss that Linux is far better and advanced to > be used as a server and now he would never doubt it. > > I also promote Linux, esp. Fedora amongst desktop users (friends and > family) and helped them overcome the difficulties they have using it. > > I hope to expand the efforts I put in encouraging Linux in Maldives as > time permits me. > > Thank you all and it's great to be part of the team...! > > - Sameeh > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From jayme at jaymeayres.com Wed Jul 2 17:15:30 2008 From: jayme at jaymeayres.com (Jayme Ayres) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:15:30 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] New LATAM Administrator In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <64b33fc70807021015t3717b4d2y8986f7e3250c7f73@mail.gmail.com> Congrats Dude! =) 2008/7/2 Francesco Ugolini : > After a long discussion, FAmSCo has nominated as LATAM Ambassadors > Administrator (after reviewing all the community processes in LATAM) > one of its member, Rodrigo Padula, who demonstrate a long and great > leadership in the LATAM community. > > He will be directly connected with FAmSCo and he will be the resources > bridge for all the LATAM community, he will follow the new membership > processes for LATAM (following the Ambassadors New Members rules) > giving a home language support. > > Good luck Rodrigo! > > Best regards > > Francesco Ugolini > on behalf of FAmSCo > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Jayme Ayres Web Designer www.jaymeayres.com Fedora Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 2 17:52:00 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 19:52:00 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] CLA details In-Reply-To: <1214698112.3391.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1214698112.3391.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: 2008/6/29 Tom spot Callaway : > Hi Ambassadors, > > I know that a lot of you are involved (either directly or indirectly) > with recruiting new contributors to Fedora. Please keep in mind the > following: > > Whenever someone signs the Fedora CLA, they _MUST_ use their full legal > name. Not just their first name, not initials, not part of their name. > Obviously, I won't know if someone doesn't use their middle name (nor do > we care if they do or not), but I will notice and reject anything like > the following examples: > > John Doe (obviously fake) > Mohammed (missing part of their name) > J Johnson (first name not complete) > Tim L. (not full name) > Super Awesome (come on) > bigjohnstevenson (please, use spaces) > > Try to remind new contributors to be sure to be complete here. If they > somehow have a full name which meets my "reject" criteria, have them > contact me directly. Their username can be whatever they want, but we do > need their real name attached to the account for legal reasons. > > Also, we need a valid mailing address and a phone number. It is not > sufficient to put "N/A", "Dont want to", or "123 Anywhere St", I will > reject those. If someone legitimately doesn't have a mailing address or > a telephone, feel free to contact me directly and we'll try to work > something out. > > Thanks! > > ~spot (on behalf of Fedora Legal) > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Thank you for the advice, I'm sure sponsors and who is involved in membership managemnet will take care of it (I add FAmSCo list as Cc to keep it updated). Regards Francesco Ugolini From neo.reeves at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 17:44:28 2008 From: neo.reeves at gmail.com (Neo Reeves) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:44:28 +0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] My Intro In-Reply-To: <1215018825.22130.98.camel@minime> References: <1215018825.22130.98.camel@minime> Message-ID: Thnx Charlie ! -- Sameeh On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Charlie D Whitehead III < charlie at linuxdragon.net> wrote: > Welcome aboard! > > -- > Charlie > > > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 22:08 +0500, Neo Reeves wrote: > > Dear Ambassedors, > > > > I am a new member to the Ambassadors worldwide, and I am from > > Maldives. My name is Sameeh and you can find more details about me on > > my wiki page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohamedSameeh > > > > I work for a government Organization in Maldives and am the > > Internet/Linux Administrator there. I've encouraged the management to > > switch most of the important servers in our organization to Linux. And > > I've proven that to my boss that Linux is far better and advanced to > > be used as a server and now he would never doubt it. > > > > I also promote Linux, esp. Fedora amongst desktop users (friends and > > family) and helped them overcome the difficulties they have using it. > > > > I hope to expand the efforts I put in encouraging Linux in Maldives as > > time permits me. > > > > Thank you all and it's great to be part of the team...! > > > > - Sameeh > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- .:: BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ::. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From herlo1 at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 04:42:54 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:42:54 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora media requests Message-ID: I've noticed that the media request site is offline and wondered if it is going to be brought back online so I can order a bunch for events I do all year long. The link that is pointed to from the wiki (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff) is this one: http://fedoranews.org/form/Ambassadors.html Is that one correct? If not, what is the correct one? I'm also aware of the Fedora Media Project and am involved in burning CDs/DVDs for that, but I'd like to give away pressed media for many reasons. Thanks in advance. Cheers, Clint From herlo1 at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 04:47:50 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:47:50 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Utah Open Source Conference 2008 Message-ID: Hi all, As the organizer of UTOSC 2008, I'm officially asking for help from Fedora Ambassadors who would like to attend and maintain a booth at UTOSC 2008. I'm hoping that there are a few who can make the conference. This year, we've had an amazing 89 presentations submitted, and will have approximately 50 presentations during the 3 day event. Check out more details as they are released at http://2008.utosc.com (I should also mention that our fearless leader has graciously accepted an offer of a keynote speaker). In addition, we'll be providing a small expo floor (10-15 booths) and Fedora is one of them! To that end, I know there are funds set aside for this event and would like to request materials soon, but don't quite know how to go about it. I figure this is a good as place as any to start. Thanks in advance for not beating me to a pulp for not knowing the process :) Cheers, Clint From wcervini at fedoraproject.org Thu Jul 3 06:01:18 2008 From: wcervini at fedoraproject.org (Walter Cervini) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 01:31:18 +1930 Subject: [Ambassadors] Warning, www.fedora-ve.org hacked Message-ID: <9d1478d80807022301q6e10707cg749bcc274db63a06@mail.gmail.com> Today morning fedora-ve.org site was defaced by a stupid hacker Group. The fedora Team Venezuela give our apologies for this problem, The site will be off to solve this action for some days -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nushio at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 06:05:49 2008 From: nushio at gmail.com (Juan M. Rodriguez) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 01:05:49 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Warning, www.fedora-ve.org hacked In-Reply-To: <9d1478d80807022301q6e10707cg749bcc274db63a06@mail.gmail.com> References: <9d1478d80807022301q6e10707cg749bcc274db63a06@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/7/3 Walter Cervini : > Today morning fedora-ve.org site was defaced by a stupid hacker Group. > The fedora Team Venezuela give our apologies for this problem, > The site will be off to solve this action for some days > > > > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > As I said on Irc, I'm willing to bet they got in via Joomla, as the site's portal didn't look like it was updated in ages, they might have exploited an old bug. While It is indeed a shame that such a thing happened, I think this teaches us a lesson in the importance of having all the software properly updated. While I do not know for a fact that it was indeed hacked via Joomla, I stand by my theory, as both http://blog.fedora-ve.org, and http://wiki.fedora-ve.org still stand. Keep us updated! -- Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Anyways, that song/music playing in the site sounds nice , no idea what it means though :( Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.in http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur) From omen at fedoraproject.org Thu Jul 3 07:47:20 2008 From: omen at fedoraproject.org (Saadaldine AlSaidi) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:47:20 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Warning, www.fedora-ve.org hacked In-Reply-To: <200807031249.10044.kushaldas@gmail.com> References: <9d1478d80807022301q6e10707cg749bcc274db63a06@mail.gmail.com> <200807031249.10044.kushaldas@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1ee8c4800807030047p21a81c68vd1382c1de4f69c0b@mail.gmail.com> A group of "stupid *Turkish* so called hackers", and the music is a some Turkish pride song. And Don't let the Islamic or Arabic words fool you. Hacking is like forbidden in Islam *especially* if the website is for the better of humanity. I hope you could fix the problem as soon as possible and try to be secure. -- Saadaldine AlSaidi IT Manager AlShora International Tayyouneh Rotary Old Saida Road - Princess Buldg. Beirut - Lebanon Tel: +961 1 391140 Fax: +961 1 381140 Mob: +961 3 934285 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neo.reeves at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 08:06:43 2008 From: neo.reeves at gmail.com (Neo Reeves) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:06:43 +0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Warning, www.fedora-ve.org hacked In-Reply-To: <1ee8c4800807030047p21a81c68vd1382c1de4f69c0b@mail.gmail.com> References: <9d1478d80807022301q6e10707cg749bcc274db63a06@mail.gmail.com> <200807031249.10044.kushaldas@gmail.com> <1ee8c4800807030047p21a81c68vd1382c1de4f69c0b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Is it the domain that got hacked or the hosting ? 2008/7/3 Saadaldine AlSaidi : > A group of "stupid *Turkish* so called hackers", and the music is a some > Turkish pride song. And Don't let the Islamic or Arabic words fool you. > Hacking is like forbidden in Islam *especially* if the website is for the > better of humanity. > > I hope you could fix the problem as soon as possible and try to be secure. > > > -- > Saadaldine AlSaidi > > IT Manager > AlShora International > Tayyouneh Rotary > Old Saida Road - Princess Buldg. > Beirut - Lebanon > Tel: +961 1 391140 > Fax: +961 1 381140 > Mob: +961 3 934285 > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- .:: BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ::. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From CGR at HUD.DE Thu Jul 3 08:17:28 2008 From: CGR at HUD.DE (GRAMS, CHRISTIAN) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:17:28 +0200 Subject: AW: [Ambassadors] Warning, www.fedora-ve.org hacked In-Reply-To: <9d1478d80807022301q6e10707cg749bcc274db63a06@mail.gmail.com> References: <9d1478d80807022301q6e10707cg749bcc274db63a06@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2BD790CBFCC5164DB1D7250B34FCA8D30D9319@s-gf-is-003.HD.HUD> It would be interesting (for me anyway as IT-Security Specialist) to see the server logs. Any possibility of posting them here for the time of the hack +/- 15 Mins? And any logs concerning the Joomla / Site that got hacked ? if it has any specialized logs. Regards Christian Von: fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com] Im Auftrag von Walter Cervini Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 08:01 An: Fedora Ambassadors Betreff: [Ambassadors] Warning, www.fedora-ve.org hacked Today morning fedora-ve.org site was defaced by a stupid hacker Group. The fedora Team Venezuela give our apologies for this problem, The site will be off to solve this action for some days -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From santosh at fedoraproject.org Thu Jul 3 08:44:16 2008 From: santosh at fedoraproject.org (Santosh Kumar) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 03:44:16 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Warning, www.fedora-ve.org hacked In-Reply-To: <2BD790CBFCC5164DB1D7250B34FCA8D30D9319@s-gf-is-003.HD.HUD> References: <9d1478d80807022301q6e10707cg749bcc274db63a06@mail.gmail.com> <2BD790CBFCC5164DB1D7250B34FCA8D30D9319@s-gf-is-003.HD.HUD> Message-ID: I second this... do check the change logs of scripts... and check to see if your hosting provider has any logs to share with you... Do forward it to us.. I know something for sure about forensics after working on my own servers and maintaining them for sometime now... Santosh 2008/7/3 GRAMS, CHRISTIAN : > It would be interesting (for me anyway as IT-Security Specialist) to see > the server logs. Any possibility of posting them here for the time of the > hack +/- 15 Mins? > > And any logs concerning the Joomla / Site that got hacked ? if it has any > specialized logs. > > > > Regards > > Christian > > > > *Von:* fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto: > fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com] *Im Auftrag von *Walter > Cervini > *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 08:01 > *An:* Fedora Ambassadors > *Betreff:* [Ambassadors] Warning, www.fedora-ve.org hacked > > > > Today morning fedora-ve.org site was defaced by a stupid hacker Group. > The fedora Team Venezuela give our apologies for this problem, > The site will be off to solve this action for some days > > > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Jul 3 09:33:30 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:33:30 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Warning, www.fedora-ve.org hacked In-Reply-To: <9d1478d80807022301q6e10707cg749bcc274db63a06@mail.gmail.com> References: <9d1478d80807022301q6e10707cg749bcc274db63a06@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/7/3 Walter Cervini : > Today morning fedora-ve.org site was defaced by a stupid hacker Group. > The fedora Team Venezuela give our apologies for this problem, > The site will be off to solve this action for some days > > > > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > That's a bad news, hoping it would be visible in the next days. Best regards Francesco Ugolini From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Jul 3 11:41:47 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:41:47 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora media requests In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/7/3 Clint Savage : > I've noticed that the media request site is offline and wondered if it > is going to be brought back online so I can order a bunch for events I > do all year long. > > The link that is pointed to from the wiki > (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff) is this one: > > http://fedoranews.org/form/Ambassadors.html > > Is that one correct? If not, what is the correct one? > > I'm also aware of the Fedora Media Project and am involved in burning > CDs/DVDs for that, but I'd like to give away pressed media for many > reasons. > > Thanks in advance. > > Cheers, > > Clint > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > This is the correct link. If you need CD/DVDs you could add the event (where the CD/DVDs are needed) in the Fedora Event List (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents) and you could get a reimbursement (ask FAmSCo before start burn) for CD/DVD burning (see the posting event deadline before). As a message in GetStuff page say we are in the way to localize CD/DVD production, so what i tryed to explain is the best way to get material (until now). Hope I'll answer your question. Francesco Ugolini From herlo1 at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 15:45:37 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:45:37 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora media requests In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 5:41 AM, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > 2008/7/3 Clint Savage : >> I've noticed that the media request site is offline and wondered if it >> is going to be brought back online so I can order a bunch for events I >> do all year long. >> >> The link that is pointed to from the wiki >> (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff) is this one: >> >> http://fedoranews.org/form/Ambassadors.html >> >> Is that one correct? If not, what is the correct one? >> >> I'm also aware of the Fedora Media Project and am involved in burning >> CDs/DVDs for that, but I'd like to give away pressed media for many >> reasons. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Clint >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > This is the correct link. > > If you need CD/DVDs you could add the event (where the CD/DVDs are > needed) in the Fedora Event List > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents) and you could get a > reimbursement (ask FAmSCo before start burn) for CD/DVD burning (see > the posting event deadline before). > > As a message in GetStuff page say we are in the way to localize CD/DVD > production, so what i tryed to explain is the best way to get material > (until now). > > Hope I'll answer your question. > > Francesco Ugolini Francesco, Thank you for taking the time to respond. I see the logistics announcement from back in January, and it seems to me that its been a long time since an update has been made there. I figured if nothing else, we could kickstart the conversation again and resolve the logistics issue. I have an event already on FedoraEvents page, the Utah Open Source Conference, which I expect I will receive a bunch of Fedora SWAG to give away as well as LiveCDs, etc. What I got from you was that I should have them pressed myself and get a reimbursement. While that's an option, I don't need very many and its not for any specific event. I train Linux for a living, LUG meetings and others that just come about because I talk so much about Fedora. I should also point out that costs for the FedoraProject to make several thousand at once is going to be cheaper than me making 100 at a time. One of the things I think about a lot is the Ubuntu ShipIt program. Any Loco/LUG leader can order Ubuntu CDs and have them shipped to their house. Now while I know the costs of that process are high to Canonical, Fedora could do this same thing with Ambassadors on a much smaller scale. The costs for something like that might be worth the effort. I see that if Fedora wants to market itself more and get more contributors, it needs more exposure. Providing something as simple as LiveCDs (in i686 and x86_64) regularly to ambassadors could easily stretch that exposure through a more viral approach. Anyway, those are my thoughts and arguments as to why we should reopen that form (or go with a similar solution). I look forward to continuing this discussion and doing more with Fedora. Cheers, Clint From david at gnsa.us Thu Jul 3 16:05:40 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:05:40 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora media requests In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: IIRC, the reimbursement model was set up due to the high costs of international shipping. Shipping costs for tshirts and CDs often outstripped the cost of the goods themselves. Not to mention possible delays getting things across the various borders. However, Clint is in the US and cost to ship things within the US is relatively inexpensive, and as he indicates it is more costly for him to have 500 discs burned or pressed than it is to ship him 500 CDs that are already pressed. This is particularly the case given that RH is getting discs pressed to begin with - so they've already done the work. Clint - as an aside - since the 'get stuff' page has been inactive, I've listed my event and contacted Thomas or Max - they've been great about filling requests, sometimes even on short notice. I perceive that the unwritten rule is that in the US people like Max act with the same responsibilities as Rodrigo Padula, the new LATAM Ambassador Coordinator when it comes to handing out swag and CDs. I know that there are significant differences between RH and Canonical, but the reality is that Ambassadors are known, most like Clint have been around for a while. There certainly shouldn't be more hoops to jump through to get swag or media than what a LoCo leader would have to go through with Canonical - shipping challenges aside. With RH EMEA, the LATAM Coordinator (who would ostensibly receiving funding to burn or press discs locally), and RH in NA (I admit ignorance of how APAC would be handled) I can't imagine that it would ever come out better for RH or the Ambassador to press or burn discs on their own unless it was for a really large event like LinuxTag or FOSDEM. On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Clint Savage wrote: > On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 5:41 AM, Francesco Ugolini > wrote: > > 2008/7/3 Clint Savage : > >> I've noticed that the media request site is offline and wondered if it > >> is going to be brought back online so I can order a bunch for events I > >> do all year long. > >> > >> The link that is pointed to from the wiki > >> (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff) is this one: > >> > >> http://fedoranews.org/form/Ambassadors.html > >> > >> Is that one correct? If not, what is the correct one? > >> > >> I'm also aware of the Fedora Media Project and am involved in burning > >> CDs/DVDs for that, but I'd like to give away pressed media for many > >> reasons. > >> > >> Thanks in advance. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Clint > >> > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > > > > This is the correct link. > > > > If you need CD/DVDs you could add the event (where the CD/DVDs are > > needed) in the Fedora Event List > > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents) and you could get a > > reimbursement (ask FAmSCo before start burn) for CD/DVD burning (see > > the posting event deadline before). > > > > As a message in GetStuff page say we are in the way to localize CD/DVD > > production, so what i tryed to explain is the best way to get material > > (until now). > > > > Hope I'll answer your question. > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > Francesco, > > Thank you for taking the time to respond. I see the logistics > announcement from back in January, and it seems to me that its been a > long time since an update has been made there. I figured if nothing > else, we could kickstart the conversation again and resolve the > logistics issue. > > I have an event already on FedoraEvents page, the Utah Open Source > Conference, which I expect I will receive a bunch of Fedora SWAG to > give away as well as LiveCDs, etc. What I got from you was that I > should have them pressed myself and get a reimbursement. While that's > an option, I don't need very many and its not for any specific event. > I train Linux for a living, LUG meetings and others that just come > about because I talk so much about Fedora. I should also point out > that costs for the FedoraProject to make several thousand at once is > going to be cheaper than me making 100 at a time. > > One of the things I think about a lot is the Ubuntu ShipIt program. > Any Loco/LUG leader can order Ubuntu CDs and have them shipped to > their house. Now while I know the costs of that process are high to > Canonical, Fedora could do this same thing with Ambassadors on a much > smaller scale. The costs for something like that might be worth the > effort. I see that if Fedora wants to market itself more and get more > contributors, it needs more exposure. Providing something as simple > as LiveCDs (in i686 and x86_64) regularly to ambassadors could easily > stretch that exposure through a more viral approach. > > Anyway, those are my thoughts and arguments as to why we should reopen > that form (or go with a similar solution). I look forward to > continuing this discussion and doing more with Fedora. > > Cheers, > > Clint > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tatadbb at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 16:31:56 2008 From: tatadbb at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:01:56 +1930 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora-Venezuela website Message-ID: <27a6293b0807030931m7d6827afp283d64d9de150a91@mail.gmail.com> Saludos a todas las personas que lean este mail, y a todas aquellas a las que se les sea referido. Este mail en particular est? siendo enviado a las siguientes listas: - Fedora-ve - Fedora-LATAM - Fedora-Ambassadors. (hare mi esfuerzo por no tener un ingl?s tan feo...) El d?a de ayer Fedora-Venezuela registro uno de los peores ataques de los que habiamos sido testigos; algunas personas se dieron a la tarea de tumbar y colocar mensajes alusivos a temas independientes de nuestra comunidad a manera de Deface. En el momento, *yo* (y cualquier problema con la decisi?n tomada por mi persona est? totalmente abierta a discuci?n) decid? hechar abajo lo poco que quedaba del Joomla que usabamos y le pedi a Guillermo G?mez (gomix) que cambiara la redirecci?n del website del antiguo joomla a lo que estabamos usando como Blog del equipo. (typo) http://www.fedora-ve.org/ Cambie ciertas particularidades en el dise?o del mismo, para acoplarlo un poco a la im?gen de lo que en realidad es el team-fedora venezuela y agregue un post manteniendo comunidado a nuestro p?blico lector de lo sucedido en la ma?ana de hoy. Aun no sabemos si seguiremos usando este sistema para la web de Fedora-Venezuela, pero de algo si estamos seguros, es de que seguiremos manteniendo a la comunidad que tanto nos ha aportado informada de los avances que hacemos en la comunidada a la que tanto le debemos. Por los momentos, las personas que quieran colaborar aportando ideas; se agradece continuar este hilo para el manejo del mismo. Lo sucedido es una lecci?n para muchos de nosotros (y aqui me incluyo posiblemente de primera) para tomar en consideraci?n que hay proyectos que hemos dejado abandonados por seguir caminos m?s gr?ndes; nunca debemos dejar algo a un lado si no tenemos alguien que respalde su continuidad; y eso fue lo que sucedi? con la web de Fedora-Venezuela. Sobre lo que se deba hacer con la p?gina de Fedora-Venezuela de aqui en adelante; ser? abierto a debate, pero me mantendr? al tanto de todo; puesto que me tomado la responsabilidad de mantener el nuevo sistema de el proyecto Fedora Venezuela en mis manos... (esto lo digo porque no voy a tomar sistemas o X que yo no est? en capacidad de mantener... hasta que venga otra persona y se haga cargo del mismo.) Un llamado de atenci?n debe ser esto, pero un escal?n de superaci?n tambi?n. Saludos, y seguiremos en contacto como siempre eof From aacosta at fedoraproject.org Thu Jul 3 18:03:50 2008 From: aacosta at fedoraproject.org (Alejandro Acosta) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:03:50 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] New LATAM Administrator In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6ad0ab20807031103y15b1874dsac222606afef54b5@mail.gmail.com> Elect Padula to replace Lula !!! Congratulations ;) On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > After a long discussion, FAmSCo has nominated as LATAM Ambassadors > Administrator (after reviewing all the community processes in LATAM) > one of its member, Rodrigo Padula, who demonstrate a long and great > leadership in the LATAM community. > > He will be directly connected with FAmSCo and he will be the resources > bridge for all the LATAM community, he will follow the new membership > processes for LATAM (following the Ambassadors New Members rules) > giving a home language support. > > Good luck Rodrigo! > > Best regards > > Francesco Ugolini > on behalf of FAmSCo > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From neo.reeves at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 18:13:42 2008 From: neo.reeves at gmail.com (Neo Reeves) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:13:42 +0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] New LATAM Administrator In-Reply-To: <6ad0ab20807031103y15b1874dsac222606afef54b5@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ad0ab20807031103y15b1874dsac222606afef54b5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Congrats :) On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Alejandro Acosta wrote: > Elect Padula to replace Lula !!! > Congratulations ;) > > On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Francesco Ugolini > wrote: > > After a long discussion, FAmSCo has nominated as LATAM Ambassadors > > Administrator (after reviewing all the community processes in LATAM) > > one of its member, Rodrigo Padula, who demonstrate a long and great > > leadership in the LATAM community. > > > > He will be directly connected with FAmSCo and he will be the resources > > bridge for all the LATAM community, he will follow the new membership > > processes for LATAM (following the Ambassadors New Members rules) > > giving a home language support. > > > > Good luck Rodrigo! > > > > Best regards > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > on behalf of FAmSCo > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- .:: BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ::. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Y no solo me refiero a parches/actualizaciones de seguridad, sino a otras medidas como borrar el directorio de instalacion, cuidar el htaccess, recuerdo que se hacia algo con el configuration.php, cuidar las extensiones del site (Que no halla que quitar X seguridad para que X extension pueda correr bien)y otras cosas que te prometo las encuentras en google facil y rapido para proteger tus instalaciones joomla, yo sufri aca www.linuxmaya.com un ataque de un hacker espa?ol, (y anteriormente de otros se?ores varios) que se divierte haciendo de las suyas en joomlas vulnerables y pues desde que aplique las recomendaciones encontradas en los foros y demas lugares el site no ha sufrido ni un ataque mas (Ya lleva casi mas de un a?o sin ser hackeado, ojo no estoy retando a nadie xDDD) Asegurate de borrar de los meta tags, y cualquier anuncio que google y otros bots buscadores de internet indexen las referencias a Joomla, asi te libras de gente que anda en busca de sitios instalacion de fabrica, esa info la encontras en la configuracion del backend usando el super administrador. 2008/7/3 Mar?a Leandro : > Saludos a todas las personas que lean este mail, y a todas aquellas a las > que se les sea referido. > > Este mail en particular est? siendo enviado a las siguientes listas: > > - Fedora-ve > - Fedora-LATAM > - Fedora-Ambassadors. (hare mi esfuerzo por no tener un ingl?s tan > feo...) > > > El d?a de ayer Fedora-Venezuela registro uno de los peores ataques de los > que habiamos sido testigos; algunas personas se dieron a la tarea de tumbar > y colocar mensajes alusivos a temas independientes de nuestra comunidad a > manera de Deface. > > En el momento, *yo* (y cualquier problema con la decisi?n tomada por mi > persona est? totalmente abierta a discuci?n) decid? hechar abajo lo poco que > quedaba del Joomla que usabamos y le pedi a Guillermo G?mez (gomix) que > cambiara la redirecci?n del website del antiguo joomla a lo que estabamos > usando como Blog del equipo. (typo) > > http://www.fedora-ve.org/ > > Cambie ciertas particularidades en el dise?o del mismo, para acoplarlo un > poco a la im?gen de lo que en realidad es el team-fedora venezuela y agregue > un post manteniendo comunidado a nuestro p?blico lector de lo sucedido en la > ma?ana de hoy. > > Aun no sabemos si seguiremos usando este sistema para la web de > Fedora-Venezuela, pero de algo si estamos seguros, es de que seguiremos > manteniendo a la comunidad que tanto nos ha aportado informada de los > avances que hacemos en la comunidada a la que tanto le debemos. > > Por los momentos, las personas que quieran colaborar aportando ideas; se > agradece continuar este hilo para el manejo del mismo. > > Lo sucedido es una lecci?n para muchos de nosotros (y aqui me incluyo > posiblemente de primera) para tomar en consideraci?n que hay proyectos que > hemos dejado abandonados por seguir caminos m?s gr?ndes; nunca debemos dejar > algo a un lado si no tenemos alguien que respalde su continuidad; y eso fue > lo que sucedi? con la web de Fedora-Venezuela. > > Sobre lo que se deba hacer con la p?gina de Fedora-Venezuela de aqui en > adelante; ser? abierto a debate, pero me mantendr? al tanto de todo; puesto > que me tomado la responsabilidad de mantener el nuevo sistema de el proyecto > Fedora Venezuela en mis manos... (esto lo digo porque no voy a tomar > sistemas o X que yo no est? en capacidad de mantener... hasta que venga otra > persona y se haga cargo del mismo.) > > Un llamado de atenci?n debe ser esto, pero un escal?n de superaci?n > tambi?n. > > Saludos, y seguiremos en contacto como siempre > eof > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Yesterday, Fedora-Venezuela was victim of the worst attack I had been > witnesses, some persons were given to the task of knock down and post some > issues beyond our community interest. > > In that moment, I (and any problem with the decision taken by me is > completely open to discussion) decided to take down the small part that > remain of our Joomla system, and ask to Guillermo Gomez (gomix) to change > the website redirection to what we were using as a blog team. (typo) > > http://www.fedora-ve.org/ > > I Change certain peculiarities in the design, to have an image a little > more adapted for the team-venezuela fedora and add a post to keeping our > readership alert of what happened this morning. > > We still don't know if we will continue using this system for > Fedora-Venezuela website, but we are sure of something, we will keep > maintaining the community informed and will keep making tutorials and stuff > like that. > > For the moment, if someone want to assist us, by providing ideas; wil be > grateful to continue this thread. > > What happened is a lesson for many of us (including myself and possibly > first one) to take into consideration that there are projects that we have > left abandoned by more biggers roads, we must never leave something behind > if we don't have someone to support it, and that's what happened with the > Fedora Venezuela website. > > Over what should be done with the site Fedora-Venezuela from here, will be > open to debate, but I'll keep abreast of everything since I took the > responsibility to maintain the new system of the Fedora project of Venezuela > on my hands ... (I'm saying this because I am not going to take X systems or > that, If I'm not able to maintain it... until someone else comes and takes > over the same.) > > This should be a warning, but also a step in overcoming well. > > Greetings, and I'll continue as always in touch. > eof > > > > > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.iseit.net > http://www.latinux.org > http://www.latinux.com > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wonderer4711 at gmx.de Thu Jul 3 22:48:40 2008 From: wonderer4711 at gmx.de (wonderer) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:48:40 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] short Introduction of myself Message-ID: <486D5748.9040705@gmx.de> Hy all, so, here I come to point 7 of my todo-list for Ambassadors :-) My name is Henrik Heigl, 36years old (wikipage with more infos: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:HenrikHeigl). One of my first things I have done so far as Ambassador is build up some groups in other social Networks and I found here for Germany the group http://www.wer-kennt-wen.de/club_qtb74tv6_Fedora.html . More to come. If there are any questions, please ask. sincerly Henrik Heigl From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Thu Jul 3 23:40:21 2008 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:40:21 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] New LATAM Administrator In-Reply-To: References: <6ad0ab20807031103y15b1874dsac222606afef54b5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <486D6365.20202@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Now, we are working to improve the Latin American Community and provide all resources and guidance needed. Thanks to all Fedora ambassadors! Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira Fedora LATAM Community Manager http://www.proyectofedora.org Neo Reeves escreveu: | Congrats :) | | On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Alejandro Acosta | > wrote: | | Elect Padula to replace Lula !!! | Congratulations ;) | | On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Francesco Ugolini | > wrote: | > After a long discussion, FAmSCo has nominated as LATAM Ambassadors | > Administrator (after reviewing all the community processes in LATAM) | > one of its member, Rodrigo Padula, who demonstrate a long and great | > leadership in the LATAM community. | > | > He will be directly connected with FAmSCo and he will be the | resources | > bridge for all the LATAM community, he will follow the new membership | > processes for LATAM (following the Ambassadors New Members rules) | > giving a home language support. | > | > Good luck Rodrigo! | > | > Best regards | > | > Francesco Ugolini | > on behalf of FAmSCo | > | > -- | > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list | > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com | | > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list | > | | -- | Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list | Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com | | https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list | | | | | -- | .:: BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ::. | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | | -- | Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list | Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com | https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhtY2EACgkQ024P1ALZT57y+gCfYdSgIHRMrs06p4HmPmqzxh2x 0k0AmQHv5mXG4Ze7EBYggDAzm2Yh2q71 =RAnZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From guillermo.gomez at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 00:22:29 2008 From: guillermo.gomez at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Guillermo_G=F3mez?=) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:52:29 -0430 Subject: [Ambassadors] Warning, www.fedora-ve.org hacked In-Reply-To: References: <9d1478d80807022301q6e10707cg749bcc274db63a06@mail.gmail.com> <200807031249.10044.kushaldas@gmail.com> <1ee8c4800807030047p21a81c68vd1382c1de4f69c0b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <486D6D45.3060604@gmail.com> Neo Reeves wrote: > Is it the domain that got hacked or the hosting ? > > 2008/7/3 Saadaldine AlSaidi >: > > A group of "stupid *Turkish* so called hackers", and the music is > a some Turkish pride song. And Don't let the Islamic or Arabic > words fool you. Hacking is like forbidden in Islam _especially_ if > the website is for the better of humanity. > > I hope you could fix the problem as soon as possible and try to be > secure. > > > -- > Saadaldine AlSaidi > > IT Manager > AlShora International > Tayyouneh Rotary > Old Saida Road - Princess Buldg. > Beirut - Lebanon > Tel: +961 1 391140 > Fax: +961 1 381140 > Mob: +961 3 934285 > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > .:: BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ::. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Just the joomla cms From guillermo.gomez at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 00:25:07 2008 From: guillermo.gomez at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Guillermo_G=F3mez?=) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:55:07 -0430 Subject: [Ambassadors] Warning, www.fedora-ve.org hacked In-Reply-To: References: <9d1478d80807022301q6e10707cg749bcc274db63a06@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <486D6DE3.8020203@gmail.com> Francesco Ugolini wrote: > 2008/7/3 Walter Cervini : > >> Today morning fedora-ve.org site was defaced by a stupid hacker Group. >> The fedora Team Venezuela give our apologies for this problem, >> The site will be off to solve this action for some days >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> > > That's a bad news, hoping it would be visible in the next days. > > Best regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > The old site is out (joomla), but a new experimental Typo (some months old) blog engine is up now receiving the http://www.fedora-ve.org traffic. Guillermo From dezone24 at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 02:15:52 2008 From: dezone24 at gmail.com (Diego Escobar) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:15:52 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora-Venezuela website In-Reply-To: <5d88dfb00807031316j56347262mae205672b2b63f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0807030931m7d6827afp283d64d9de150a91@mail.gmail.com> <5d88dfb00807031316j56347262mae205672b2b63f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Que tal: Fedora Venezuela a mi juicio es uno de lo mejores sitios que tiene la comunidad hispanoamericana en cuanto a Fedora y por supuesto Linux se refiere. Aprender de nuestros errores es precisamente aquello que nos hace cada d?a ser mejores y la comunidad Linux no es ajena a esta situaci?n. En este momento ignoro qu? caminos se dejaron a un lado, pero por lo que hab?a visto Fedora Venezuela iba por un muy buen camino y en realidad es una de las comunidades m?s solidas de latinoam?rica. Fuera de los aspectos a seguridad a revisar, seguramente los usuarios querr?an un sitio m?s flexible en donde encontrar documentaci?n y tutoriales sea m?s f?cil. Adem?s seguramente entrar en la era de los contenidos multimedia ofreciendo algunos videos, im?genes y porqu? no enlazar algunos screencasts. Saludos desde Colombia y ?nimo. 2008/7/3 John Mackay : > Con el riesgo de parecer poco informativo por no proveer los links > correspondientes, hay muchos parches y asuntitos de seguridad que haces en > un joomla POST instalacion, para asegurarte de que algun tipo a su antojo NO > se incremente los privilegios de usuario a nivel admin. Y no solo me refiero > a parches/actualizaciones de seguridad, sino a otras medidas como borrar el > directorio de instalacion, cuidar el htaccess, recuerdo que se hacia algo > con el configuration.php, cuidar las extensiones del site (Que no halla que > quitar X seguridad para que X extension pueda correr bien)y otras cosas que > te prometo las encuentras en google facil y rapido para proteger tus > instalaciones joomla, yo sufri aca www.linuxmaya.com un ataque de un > hacker espa?ol, (y anteriormente de otros se?ores varios) que se divierte > haciendo de las suyas en joomlas vulnerables y pues desde que aplique las > recomendaciones encontradas en los foros y demas lugares el site no ha > sufrido ni un ataque mas (Ya lleva casi mas de un a?o sin ser hackeado, ojo > no estoy retando a nadie xDDD) > > Asegurate de borrar de los meta tags, y cualquier anuncio que google y > otros bots buscadores de internet indexen las referencias a Joomla, asi te > libras de gente que anda en busca de sitios instalacion de fabrica, esa info > la encontras en la configuracion del backend usando el super administrador. > > 2008/7/3 Mar?a Leandro : > >> Saludos a todas las personas que lean este mail, y a todas aquellas a >> las que se les sea referido. >> >> Este mail en particular est? siendo enviado a las siguientes listas: >> >> - Fedora-ve >> - Fedora-LATAM >> - Fedora-Ambassadors. (hare mi esfuerzo por no tener un ingl?s tan >> feo...) >> >> >> El d?a de ayer Fedora-Venezuela registro uno de los peores ataques de los >> que habiamos sido testigos; algunas personas se dieron a la tarea de tumbar >> y colocar mensajes alusivos a temas independientes de nuestra comunidad a >> manera de Deface. >> >> En el momento, *yo* (y cualquier problema con la decisi?n tomada por mi >> persona est? totalmente abierta a discuci?n) decid? hechar abajo lo poco que >> quedaba del Joomla que usabamos y le pedi a Guillermo G?mez (gomix) que >> cambiara la redirecci?n del website del antiguo joomla a lo que estabamos >> usando como Blog del equipo. (typo) >> >> http://www.fedora-ve.org/ >> >> Cambie ciertas particularidades en el dise?o del mismo, para acoplarlo un >> poco a la im?gen de lo que en realidad es el team-fedora venezuela y agregue >> un post manteniendo comunidado a nuestro p?blico lector de lo sucedido en la >> ma?ana de hoy. >> >> Aun no sabemos si seguiremos usando este sistema para la web de >> Fedora-Venezuela, pero de algo si estamos seguros, es de que seguiremos >> manteniendo a la comunidad que tanto nos ha aportado informada de los >> avances que hacemos en la comunidada a la que tanto le debemos. >> >> Por los momentos, las personas que quieran colaborar aportando ideas; se >> agradece continuar este hilo para el manejo del mismo. >> >> Lo sucedido es una lecci?n para muchos de nosotros (y aqui me incluyo >> posiblemente de primera) para tomar en consideraci?n que hay proyectos que >> hemos dejado abandonados por seguir caminos m?s gr?ndes; nunca debemos dejar >> algo a un lado si no tenemos alguien que respalde su continuidad; y eso fue >> lo que sucedi? con la web de Fedora-Venezuela. >> >> Sobre lo que se deba hacer con la p?gina de Fedora-Venezuela de aqui en >> adelante; ser? abierto a debate, pero me mantendr? al tanto de todo; puesto >> que me tomado la responsabilidad de mantener el nuevo sistema de el proyecto >> Fedora Venezuela en mis manos... (esto lo digo porque no voy a tomar >> sistemas o X que yo no est? en capacidad de mantener... hasta que venga otra >> persona y se haga cargo del mismo.) >> >> Un llamado de atenci?n debe ser esto, pero un escal?n de superaci?n >> tambi?n. >> >> Saludos, y seguiremos en contacto como siempre >> eof > >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Yesterday, Fedora-Venezuela was victim of the worst attack I had been >> witnesses, some persons were given to the task of knock down and post some >> issues beyond our community interest. >> >> In that moment, I (and any problem with the decision taken by me is >> completely open to discussion) decided to take down the small part that >> remain of our Joomla system, and ask to Guillermo Gomez (gomix) to change >> the website redirection to what we were using as a blog team. (typo) >> >> http://www.fedora-ve.org/ >> >> I Change certain peculiarities in the design, to have an image a little >> more adapted for the team-venezuela fedora and add a post to keeping our >> readership alert of what happened this morning. >> >> We still don't know if we will continue using this system for >> Fedora-Venezuela website, but we are sure of something, we will keep >> maintaining the community informed and will keep making tutorials and stuff >> like that. >> >> For the moment, if someone want to assist us, by providing ideas; wil be >> grateful to continue this thread. >> >> What happened is a lesson for many of us (including myself and possibly >> first one) to take into consideration that there are projects that we have >> left abandoned by more biggers roads, we must never leave something behind >> if we don't have someone to support it, and that's what happened with the >> Fedora Venezuela website. >> >> Over what should be done with the site Fedora-Venezuela from here, will be >> open to debate, but I'll keep abreast of everything since I took the >> responsibility to maintain the new system of the Fedora project of Venezuela >> on my hands ... (I'm saying this because I am not going to take X systems or >> that, If I'm not able to maintain it... until someone else comes and takes >> over the same.) >> >> This should be a warning, but also a step in overcoming well. >> >> Greetings, and I'll continue as always in touch. >> eof > >> >> >> >> >> -- >> tatica >> Maria Gracia Leandro >> http://www.tatica.org >> http://www.iseit.net >> http://www.latinux.org >> http://www.latinux.com >> http://www.fedora-ve.org >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro >> LinuxUser= 440285 >> GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 >> "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Diego Escobar Fedora Ambassador for Colombia Fedora Release 9 (Sulphur): Linux Kernel 2.6.25 + Gnome 2.22 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From uosiumen at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 09:08:58 2008 From: uosiumen at gmail.com (Krzysztof Hajdamowicz) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:08:58 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Mokodora? Message-ID: <849180620807040208reed4f09v4b1292d737c025fd@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I have an idea to build respin/fork/whatever of fedora for Neo FreeRunner and other openmoko devices, that would be shown in the near future. What do You all think about this idea? Is it possible? -- Cheers, uosiu mail: uosiumen on server uosiu dot info jabber: uosiu on server jabster fot pl From guillermo.gomez at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 12:05:05 2008 From: guillermo.gomez at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Guillermo_G=F3mez?=) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:35:05 -0430 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora-Venezuela website In-Reply-To: References: <27a6293b0807030931m7d6827afp283d64d9de150a91@mail.gmail.com> <5d88dfb00807031316j56347262mae205672b2b63f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <486E11F1.1@gmail.com> Diego Escobar wrote: > > Que tal: > > Fedora Venezuela a mi juicio es uno de lo mejores sitios que tiene la > comunidad hispanoamericana en cuanto a Fedora y por supuesto Linux se > refiere. > > Aprender de nuestros errores es precisamente aquello que nos hace cada > d?a ser mejores y la comunidad Linux no es ajena a esta situaci?n. En > este momento ignoro qu? caminos se dejaron a un lado, pero por lo que > hab?a visto Fedora Venezuela iba por un muy buen camino y en realidad > es una de las comunidades m?s solidas de latinoam?rica. > > Fuera de los aspectos a seguridad a revisar, seguramente los usuarios > querr?an un sitio m?s flexible en donde encontrar documentaci?n y > tutoriales sea m?s f?cil. Adem?s seguramente entrar en la era de los > contenidos multimedia ofreciendo algunos videos, im?genes y porqu? > no enlazar algunos screencasts. > > Saludos desde Colombia y ?nimo. > > 2008/7/3 John Mackay >: > > Con el riesgo de parecer poco informativo por no proveer los links > correspondientes, hay muchos parches y asuntitos de seguridad que > haces en un joomla POST instalacion, para asegurarte de que algun > tipo a su antojo NO se incremente los privilegios de usuario a > nivel admin. Y no solo me refiero a parches/actualizaciones de > seguridad, sino a otras medidas como borrar el directorio de > instalacion, cuidar el htaccess, recuerdo que se hacia algo con el > configuration.php, cuidar las extensiones del site (Que no halla > que quitar X seguridad para que X extension pueda correr bien)y > otras cosas que te prometo las encuentras en google facil y rapido > para proteger tus instalaciones joomla, yo sufri aca > www.linuxmaya.com un ataque de un > hacker espa?ol, (y anteriormente de otros se?ores varios) que se > divierte haciendo de las suyas en joomlas vulnerables y pues desde > que aplique las recomendaciones encontradas en los foros y demas > lugares el site no ha sufrido ni un ataque mas (Ya lleva casi mas > de un a?o sin ser hackeado, ojo no estoy retando a nadie xDDD) > > Asegurate de borrar de los meta tags, y cualquier anuncio que > google y otros bots buscadores de internet indexen las referencias > a Joomla, asi te libras de gente que anda en busca de sitios > instalacion de fabrica, esa info la encontras en la configuracion > del backend usando el super administrador. > > 2008/7/3 Mar?a Leandro >: > > Saludos a todas las personas que lean este mail, y a todas > aquellas a las que se les sea referido. > > Este mail en particular est? siendo enviado a las siguientes > listas: > > * Fedora-ve > * Fedora-LATAM > * Fedora-Ambassadors. (hare mi esfuerzo por no tener un > ingl?s tan feo...) > > > El d?a de ayer Fedora-Venezuela registro uno de los peores > ataques de los que habiamos sido testigos; algunas personas se > dieron a la tarea de tumbar y colocar mensajes alusivos a > temas independientes de nuestra comunidad a manera de Deface. > > En el momento, *yo* (y cualquier problema con la decisi?n > tomada por mi persona est? totalmente abierta a discuci?n) > decid? hechar abajo lo poco que quedaba del Joomla que > usabamos y le pedi a Guillermo G?mez (gomix) que cambiara la > redirecci?n del website del antiguo joomla a lo que estabamos > usando como Blog del equipo. (typo) > > http://www.fedora-ve.org/ > > Cambie ciertas particularidades en el dise?o del mismo, para > acoplarlo un poco a la im?gen de lo que en realidad es el > team-fedora venezuela y agregue un post manteniendo comunidado > a nuestro p?blico lector de lo sucedido en la ma?ana de hoy. > > Aun no sabemos si seguiremos usando este sistema para la web > de Fedora-Venezuela, pero de algo si estamos seguros, es de > que seguiremos manteniendo a la comunidad que tanto nos ha > aportado informada de los avances que hacemos en la comunidada > a la que tanto le debemos. > > Por los momentos, las personas que quieran colaborar aportando > ideas; se agradece continuar este hilo para el manejo del mismo. > > Lo sucedido es una lecci?n para muchos de nosotros (y aqui me > incluyo posiblemente de primera) para tomar en consideraci?n > que hay proyectos que hemos dejado abandonados por seguir > caminos m?s gr?ndes; nunca debemos dejar algo a un lado si no > tenemos alguien que respalde su continuidad; y eso fue lo que > sucedi? con la web de Fedora-Venezuela. > > Sobre lo que se deba hacer con la p?gina de Fedora-Venezuela > de aqui en adelante; ser? abierto a debate, pero me mantendr? > al tanto de todo; puesto que me tomado la responsabilidad de > mantener el nuevo sistema de el proyecto Fedora Venezuela en > mis manos... (esto lo digo porque no voy a tomar sistemas o X > que yo no est? en capacidad de mantener... hasta que venga > otra persona y se haga cargo del mismo.) > > Un llamado de atenci?n debe ser esto, pero un escal?n de > superaci?n tambi?n. > > Saludos, y seguiremos en contacto como siempre > eof > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Yesterday, Fedora-Venezuela was victim of the worst attack I > had been witnesses, some persons were given to the task of > knock down and post some issues beyond our community interest. > > In that moment, I (and any problem with the decision taken by > me is completely open to discussion) decided to take down the > small part that remain of our Joomla system, and ask to > Guillermo Gomez (gomix) to change the website redirection to > what we were using as a blog team. (typo) > > http://www.fedora-ve.org/ > > I Change certain peculiarities in the design, to have an image > a little more adapted for the team-venezuela fedora and add a > post to keeping our readership alert of what happened this > morning. > > We still don't know if we will continue using this system for > Fedora-Venezuela website, but we are sure of something, we > will keep maintaining the community informed and will keep > making tutorials and stuff like that. > > For the moment, if someone want to assist us, by providing > ideas; wil be grateful to continue this thread. > > What happened is a lesson for many of us (including myself and > possibly first one) to take into consideration that there are > projects that we have left abandoned by more biggers roads, we > must never leave something behind if we don't have someone to > support it, and that's what happened with the Fedora Venezuela > website. > > Over what should be done with the site Fedora-Venezuela from > here, will be open to debate, but I'll keep abreast of > everything since I took the responsibility to maintain the new > system of the Fedora project of Venezuela on my hands ... (I'm > saying this because I am not going to take X systems or that, > If I'm not able to maintain it... until someone else comes and > takes over the same.) > > This should be a warning, but also a step in overcoming well. > > Greetings, and I'll continue as always in touch. > eof > > > > > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.iseit.net > http://www.latinux.org > http://www.latinux.com > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > Diego Escobar > Fedora Ambassador for Colombia > Fedora Release 9 (Sulphur): Linux Kernel 2.6.25 + Gnome 2.22 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Gracias Diego por esas palabras :) Guillermo From jayme at jaymeayres.com Fri Jul 4 19:08:49 2008 From: jayme at jaymeayres.com (Jayme Ayres) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:08:49 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Software Freedom Day t-shirts Message-ID: <64b33fc70807041208p345c159amd7da3f7ed917106a@mail.gmail.com> Hi folks! While enjoying the discussions posted at the Brazilian Ambassadors list, I created a layout for the Software Freedom Day T-shirt ( http://softwarefreedomday.org ), Some of those Ambassadors offered to make such T-shirt for the event. I?ll post that at wiki when they are finished. http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/tShirt-SFDay08.png http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/tShirt-SFDay08.svg By the way, I?ve added an Artwork/T-Shirt design I made for the Fedora Ambassadors in Brazil - inspired by the art of the video http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/02/video-meet-the-fedora-ambassadors/ ) produced after FISL 7.0 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt#Events cheers -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com www.projetofedora.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres From rafaelliu at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 21:21:10 2008 From: rafaelliu at gmail.com (rafael liu) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 21:21:10 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] short Introduction of myself In-Reply-To: <486D5748.9040705@gmx.de> References: <486D5748.9040705@gmx.de> Message-ID: Welcome to the group! Rafael Liu On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:48 PM, wonderer wrote: > Hy all, > > so, here I come to point 7 of my todo-list for Ambassadors :-) > My name is Henrik Heigl, 36years old (wikipage with more infos: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:HenrikHeigl). > One of my first things I have done so far as Ambassador is build up some > groups in other social Networks and I found here for Germany the group > http://www.wer-kennt-wen.de/club_qtb74tv6_Fedora.html . > More to come. If there are any questions, please ask. > > > > sincerly > Henrik Heigl > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From callmeno2 at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 05:12:14 2008 From: callmeno2 at gmail.com (karthik parvathaneni) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:42:14 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Software Freedom Day t-shirts In-Reply-To: <64b33fc70807041208p345c159amd7da3f7ed917106a@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b33fc70807041208p345c159amd7da3f7ed917106a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <347f9e8c0807042212t5bd29c7ah732d201009de6390@mail.gmail.com> Nice one ! ... do i get a copy of it !! On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 12:38 AM, Jayme Ayres wrote: > Hi folks! > > While enjoying the discussions posted at the Brazilian Ambassadors > list, I created a layout for the Software Freedom Day T-shirt ( > http://softwarefreedomday.org ), Some of those Ambassadors offered to > make such T-shirt for the event. I?ll post that at wiki when they are > finished. > > http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/tShirt-SFDay08.png > http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/tShirt-SFDay08.svg > > By the way, I?ve added an Artwork/T-Shirt design I made for the Fedora > Ambassadors in Brazil - inspired by the art of the video > http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/02/video-meet-the-fedora-ambassadors/ > ) produced after FISL 7.0 > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt#Events > > cheers > > -- > Jayme Ayres > www.jaymeayres.com > www.projetofedora.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- "Hakunamatata" I blog here : www.penguinfoot.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nirmal.pathak at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 07:06:10 2008 From: nirmal.pathak at gmail.com (Nirmal Pathak) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:36:10 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Software Freedom Day t-shirts In-Reply-To: <64b33fc70807041208p345c159amd7da3f7ed917106a@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b33fc70807041208p345c159amd7da3f7ed917106a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7c9ab4ad0807050006n7ef3bafbx81b336616a193d92@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Good Design! On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 12:38 AM, Jayme Ayres wrote: > Hi folks! > > While enjoying the discussions posted at the Brazilian Ambassadors > list, I created a layout for the Software Freedom Day T-shirt ( > http://softwarefreedomday.org ), Some of those Ambassadors offered to > make such T-shirt for the event. I?ll post that at wiki when they are > finished. > > http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/tShirt-SFDay08.png > http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/tShirt-SFDay08.svg > > By the way, I?ve added an Artwork/T-Shirt design I made for the Fedora > Ambassadors in Brazil - inspired by the art of the video > http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/02/video-meet-the-fedora-ambassadors/ > ) produced after FISL 7.0 > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt#Events > > cheers > > -- > Jayme Ayres > www.jaymeayres.com > www.projetofedora.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Have Fun! -- Nirmal D Pathak. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was born free! No Gates and Windows can restrict my Freedom!! Enjoy Linux! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have recently > joined the ambassador progam. > I love working and experimenting on Linux its fun do stuff with no > restriciton. > I thought in India to make linux popular the best way can be to make > teachers in schools comformtable .I discussed this issue with my teachers > they need a guide which can be telling them to shift their computer from > windows to linux. > I would like to know the members view on this . > Regards Ankit Govil > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. > > :::: CONTRIBUA COM O MEIO AMBIENTE. N?O IMPRIMA ESTA MENSAGEM ::::: > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neo.reeves at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 11:13:35 2008 From: neo.reeves at gmail.com (Neo Reeves) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 16:13:35 +0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Intro In-Reply-To: References: <322c2fa00807050034r2a385b2cyf747c80625b470b6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <901F98AB-6C35-49B7-9E62-2EFDC7C07E95@gmail.com> Welcome bro...! On Jul 5, 2008, at 3:58 PM, "Lucas Saboya" wrote: > Welcome dude :D > > 2008/7/5 ankit govil : > Hello everyone, > I am ankit govil ,studying in Bits-Pilani,Goa campus. I have > recently joined the ambassador progam. > I love working and experimenting on Linux its fun do stuff with no > restriciton. > I thought in India to make linux popular the best way can be to make > teachers in schools comformtable .I discussed this issue with my > teachers they need a guide which can be telling them to shift their > computer from windows to linux. > I would like to know the members view on this . > Regards Ankit Govil > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > :::: CONTRIBUA COM O MEIO AMBIENTE. N?O IMPRIMA ESTA MENSAGEM ::::: > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 14:10:02 2008 From: chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com (Dipanjan Chakraborty) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 07:10:02 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Dipanjan C sent you a special gift Message-ID: Dipanjan gave you a gift, find out what you got by joining BluBet. https://www.blubet.com/invitepath/gt/0d25a0124a9c11dd945e02bf453b928c/1 --- This email was sent to you by BluBet user Dipanjan C (chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com). This email is never sent unsolicited. If you believe you have received this in error, please contact us at: privacy at blubet.com If you do not want to receive future emails from BluBet, click below: http://www.blubet.com/optout.aspx?emailid=0d25a013-4a9c-11dd-945e-02bf453b928c BluBet, Inc., 208 Utah Street, Suite 404, San Francisco, CA 94103, USA. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sat Jul 5 14:20:53 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 16:20:53 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Dipanjan C sent you a special gift In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There is a specific policy that don't allow any kind of spam here, moreover I saw this message in another list. I hope this was only a mistake: next time, to guarantee all M-L members, I or another M-L admin will be forced to remove your email adress from the list (following the M-L policy rules). Regards Francesco Ugolini From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Sat Jul 5 15:38:33 2008 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:38:33 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Dipanjan C sent you a special gift In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1215272313.7633.7.camel@horton.nool> Not only did he sent this to both Ambassadors and Marketing ML, but I also received it personally o_O Am I the only one or did he, as I suspect, send it to all his contacts, including Fedora MLs ? Le samedi 05 juillet 2008 ? 16:20 +0200, Francesco Ugolini a ?crit : > There is a specific policy that don't allow any kind of spam here, > moreover I saw this message in another list. > > I hope this was only a mistake: next time, to guarantee all M-L > members, I or another M-L admin will be forced to remove your email > adress from the list (following the M-L policy rules). > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Francesco Ugolini < fugolini at fedoraproject.org> wrote: > There is a specific policy that don't allow any kind of spam here, > moreover I saw this message in another list. > > I hope this was only a mistake: next time, to guarantee all M-L > members, I or another M-L admin will be forced to remove your email > adress from the list (following the M-L policy rules). > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 16:17:41 2008 From: chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com (Dipanjan Chakraborty) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 21:47:41 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Dipanjan C sent you a special gift In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am very sorry for my carelessness. I was trying to forward this mail to all my friends, but entirely forgot that the fedora mailing list is also in my contacts. This is entirely due to my carelessness and I am to blame. I promise to be more careful in the future. I deeply appologise to all that I have offended, and am ready to do all that is necessary to redress this. Dipanjan Chakraborty. On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Francesco Ugolini < fugolini at fedoraproject.org> wrote: > There is a specific policy that don't allow any kind of spam here, > moreover I saw this message in another list. > > I hope this was only a mistake: next time, to guarantee all M-L > members, I or another M-L admin will be forced to remove your email > adress from the list (following the M-L policy rules). > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dipanjan Chakraborty. 2008/7/5 Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) : > Not only did he sent this to both Ambassadors and Marketing ML, but I > also received it personally o_O > > Am I the only one or did he, as I suspect, send it to all his contacts, > including Fedora MLs ? > > > Le samedi 05 juillet 2008 ? 16:20 +0200, Francesco Ugolini a ?crit : > > There is a specific policy that don't allow any kind of spam here, > > moreover I saw this message in another list. > > > > I hope this was only a mistake: next time, to guarantee all M-L > > members, I or another M-L admin will be forced to remove your email > > adress from the list (following the M-L policy rules). > > > > Regards > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > ---------- > > Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) > French Fedora Ambassador > > ---------- > "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety, > deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dipanjan Chakraborty On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Dipanjan Chakraborty < chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com> wrote: > I am taking the documents to college today for submission. > Dipanjan Chakraborty. > > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 12:37 PM, susmit shannigrahi < > thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 6/29/08, Dipanjan Chakraborty wrote: >> > I had talked to the training and placement cell in our college, as I >> had >> > said earlier. They had asked me to detail the entire process. So I have >> > prepared a draft . There are two documents. One is a letter approaching >> the >> > college, and the other is a description of fedora. I am attaching both. >> > please check them if any additions or deletions are to be made. Am I >> > entitled to sign the letter? >> > There's another point, do I write fedora with a small 'f' or a capital >> 'F'? >> >> an/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> Looking into the docs. 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URL: From euniraugusto at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 17:30:26 2008 From: euniraugusto at gmail.com (Eunir Augusto) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:30:26 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Project in Portugal Message-ID: <337531360807051030v7da7b328t640cf8d235a8a51d@mail.gmail.com> My name is Eunir Augusto. Little part of this list, because focus my work in the magazine Fedora in Brazil. The address is www.projetofedora.org/Revista I need to get in touch with the ambassadors of Fedora in Portugal, to check the possibilities of bringing support for Fedora in Portugal, as members who attend the address Portuguese Brazilian I asked. Please, the ambassadors in Portugal, come into contact me to discuss the feasibility of initiating the project. gtalk: euniraugusto at gmail.com msn: eunir at fedoraproject.org Thank you. Eunir Augusto -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I deeply appologise to all that > I have offended, and am ready to do all that is necessary to redress this. > > Dipanjan Chakraborty. > > 2008/7/5 Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) : >> >> Not only did he sent this to both Ambassadors and Marketing ML, but I >> also received it personally o_O >> >> Am I the only one or did he, as I suspect, send it to all his contacts, >> including Fedora MLs ? >> >> >> Le samedi 05 juillet 2008 ? 16:20 +0200, Francesco Ugolini a ?crit : >> > There is a specific policy that don't allow any kind of spam here, >> > moreover I saw this message in another list. >> > >> > I hope this was only a mistake: next time, to guarantee all M-L >> > members, I or another M-L admin will be forced to remove your email >> > adress from the list (following the M-L policy rules). >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Francesco Ugolini >> > >> > -- >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> ---------- >> >> Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) >> French Fedora Ambassador >> >> ---------- >> "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary >> safety, >> deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Ok, this discussion is closed. Thank you Dipanjan for your explanation of what is happened, for this time nothing will happen. This is an advice for the future: I hope this will not happen again or, according to M-List rule I will be forced to remove your email from the list. I encourage everyone (I know many of you know this better than me), when you use web services that ask if you want to invite people, not to give the entire adressbook, expecially, not to give the M-L addresses and their followers' email adresses too. Best regards Francesco Ugolini p.s. What I said is for the Ambassadors Project Mailing List. From teseu at fedoraproject.org Sun Jul 6 05:16:33 2008 From: teseu at fedoraproject.org (Teseu) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 02:16:33 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Project in Portugal In-Reply-To: <337531360807051030v7da7b328t640cf8d235a8a51d@mail.gmail.com> References: <337531360807051030v7da7b328t640cf8d235a8a51d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Good call Eunir 2008/7/5 Eunir Augusto : > My name is Eunir Augusto. Little part of this list, because focus my work in > the magazine Fedora in Brazil. > > The address is www.projetofedora.org/Revista > > I need to get in touch with the ambassadors of Fedora in Portugal, to check > the possibilities of bringing support for Fedora in Portugal, as members who > attend the address Portuguese Brazilian I asked. > > Please, the ambassadors in Portugal, come into contact me to discuss the > feasibility of initiating the project. > > gtalk: euniraugusto at gmail.com > msn: eunir at fedoraproject.org > > Thank you. > > Eunir Augusto > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- "...don't underestimate the power of the dark side..." From silvio.redhat at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 07:38:33 2008 From: silvio.redhat at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=EDlvio_Reis?=) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 09:38:33 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Project in Portugal In-Reply-To: References: <337531360807051030v7da7b328t640cf8d235a8a51d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yesterday I asked to be appointed as ambassador in Portugal with the aim of creating a community in Portugal, where Fedora is very poorly known. Living in Luxembourg, my collaboration will be my only online. That's why, we need urgently contact the Portuguese ambassadors to begin the project Please contact me silvio.redhat at gmail.com You could also contact Eunir Augusto: euniraugusto at gmail.com Thank you! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nirmal.pathak at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 11:32:07 2008 From: nirmal.pathak at gmail.com (Nirmal Pathak) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 17:02:07 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. In-Reply-To: References: <5ac533d50806232214i386d14b0g5078df7d32b71e3c@mail.gmail.com> <57173.VwBUX1dRCno=.1214297192.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <5ac533d50806240343s5d0d104bt4f97bac3b023312c@mail.gmail.com> <37812.VwBUX1dRCno=.1214309789.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: <7c9ab4ad0807060432j3ef5e56er4bbdf31d3cd290d0@mail.gmail.com> Hi, 2008/7/5 Dipanjan Chakraborty : > I have submitted the documents to our Training and Placement cell. They are > going through them and I shall report to you the progress. > > Dipanjan Chakraborty > > > On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Dipanjan Chakraborty < > chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com> wrote: > >> I am taking the documents to college today for submission. >> Dipanjan Chakraborty. >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 12:37 PM, susmit shannigrahi < >> thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 6/29/08, Dipanjan Chakraborty wrote: >>> > I had talked to the training and placement cell in our college, as I >>> had >>> > said earlier. They had asked me to detail the entire process. So I >>> have >>> > prepared a draft . There are two documents. One is a letter >>> approaching the >>> > college, and the other is a description of fedora. I am attaching >>> both. >>> > please check them if any additions or deletions are to be made. Am I >>> > entitled to sign the letter? >>> > There's another point, do I write fedora with a small 'f' or a >>> capital 'F'? >>> >>> an/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> Looking into the docs. Thanks for the effort. >>> And the name should be "Fedora". >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Susmit. >>> >>> I would also like to submit these documents to The M. S. University of Baroda . I hope we get good response from there too! Have Fun! -- Nirmal D Pathak. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was born free! No Gates and Windows can restrict my Freedom!! Enjoy Linux! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thomas Canniot From mspevack at redhat.com Sun Jul 6 19:37:34 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 21:37:34 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] FAD EMEA 2008 Message-ID: Sandro and I have begun talking about the next FAD in Europe, in which we hope to put together our plans for Red Hat's next budget year (March 2009 - February 2010). We are beginning to collect ideas, and volunteers, here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADEMEA2008 The folks who come to FAD are considered the "core leadership team" for Fedora in Europe for the coming year. Anyone is welcome to attend. In theory, we would like a representation from various countries, with about 10 attendees total (though there is no limit). FAMSCo members from Europe are encouraged to attend. The Fedora Project will help to provide budget for the event, which can include subsidies for travel and lodging as necessary. I really appreciate the work that everyone in our EMEA Fedora community does to help keep us organized, and even though we still have half of this year left, I want to make sure that we're thinking about what is important to us next year. --Max From linux.charged at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 19:59:40 2008 From: linux.charged at gmail.com (Junior Tomazelli) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 16:59:40 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] short Introduction of myself In-Reply-To: References: <486D5748.9040705@gmx.de> Message-ID: Welcome to group. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From red at fedoraproject.org Sun Jul 6 21:36:11 2008 From: red at fedoraproject.org (Sandro "red" Mathys) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 23:36:11 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] FrOSCon Infomail #1 for Exhibitors (in German) Message-ID: <48713ACB.2070709@fedoraproject.org> FYI. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [FrOSCon-Exhibitors] Infomail 1 f?r Aussteller auf der FrOSCon 2008 Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:41:27 +0200 From: exhibitors at lists.froscon.de Reply-To: Aussteller at froscon.de To: exhibitors at lists.froscon.de Liebe Aussteller, mit dieser E-Mail m?chte ich Euch ein paar wichtige Information f?r die FrOSCon 2008 an die Hand geben. Punkte: 1. ?bernachtungen 2. Verpflegung w?hrend der Konferenz 3. Ausstellerausweise 4. Auf- und Abbau 5. Verlinkung auf FrOSCon.de und FrOSCon.org 6. Social Event 1. ?bernachtungen Wie im letztem Jahr war es uns diesmal wieder m?glich das Hotel - Regina zu mieten. Das bedeutet konkret, dass ihr ?ber uns ein Zimmer buchen k?nnt. Die Zimmer werden wieder von uns subventioniert. Die Preise sind wie folgt und inkl. Fr?hst?ck: 30 Euro pro Nacht, wenn ihr ein Einzelzimmer haben m?chtet 20 Euro pro Nacht, wenn ihr bereit seid, in einem Doppelzimmer zu ?bernachten und Euch das Zimmer mit jemandem teilt. Die Preise gelten f?r ?bernachtungen am Freitag und Samstag. Das Geld ist in Bar auf der FrOSCon abzugeben, dort bekommt ihr auch eure Eintrittskarten. Essen und Anreise am Freitag. Das Hotel hat uns angeboten am Freitag Abend von 20:30 bis 23:30 Uhr Abendessen nach Tageskarte anzubieten. Um die Planung zu vereinfachen, w?re es sch?n, wenn ihr uns kurz eine R?ckmeldung gebt, wer das nutzen m?chte. Ebenfalls hat das Debianforum einen sehr g?nstigen Campingplatz in der N?he der FrOSCon aufgetan. Wem das gef?llt, kann hier mal schauen. http://debianforum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=100593 2. Verpflegung w?hrend der Konferenz F?r alle Aussteller, Speaker und Helfer bieten wir in diesem Jahr wieder Verpflegung an. Die Verpflegung sieht wie folgt aus: - Sa. und So. von ca. 09:30 bis 17:00 belegte Br?tchen und andere Snacks. - Sa. und So. von ca. 11:00 bis 13:00 Uhr gibt es warmes Essen. Wir werden auch wieder Essen f?r Vegetarier zur Verf?gung stellen. Zus?tzlich zum Essen gibt es wieder Getr?nke (Schorlen, Wasser etc.). Das Essen und auch die Getr?nke d?rfen nur im vorgesehen Raum verzehrt werden. F?r die, die am Stand trinken m?chten, haben wir wieder unseren Verkaufstand, an dem ihr g?nstig Getr?nke erwerben k?nnt. Um an der Verpflegung teilnehmen zu k?nnen, ben?tigt ihr Ausstellerausweise. Diese bekommt ihr selbstverst?ndlich kostenlos von uns. Details. s.h. Punkt 3 3. Ausstellerausweise Damit wir Ausstellerausweise zur Verf?gung stellen k?nnen, ben?tigen wir, bis sp?testens zum 07.08., von jedem Aussteller eine vollst?ndige Liste, mit Vor- und Nachname, von jeder Person, die einen Ausstellerausweis haben m?chte. Da wir im letzten Jahr einige Problem mit Leuten hatten, die der Meinung waren, sie m?ssten auf einer Ausstellerliste stehen, bitte ich Euch darauf zu achten, das wir eure E-Mail best?tigen. Am besten bringt auch jeder die E-Mail mit. Wir k?nnten uns ja auch vertun. Sollte jemand berechtigter Weise nicht auf der Liste stehen, muss er Eintritt bezahlen. Wir verbuchen das dann unter "Spende wegen Verpeilungsfaktor". Da uns ein Ausstellerausweis wegen der Verpflegung viel Geld kostet, bitten wir die Verantwortlichen bewusst mit der Verteilung der Tickets umzugehen. Sollten einzelne bereits Speaker, Medienpartner, Helfer etc. sein, ben?tigen wir den Namen nicht mehr. 4. Auf- und Abbau Der Aufbau ist Freitags von 12:00 Uhr bis 23:00 Uhr m?glich. Bitte teilt uns mit, wenn ihr schon Freitags aufbauen m?chtet und wann wir in etwa mit Euch rechnen k?nnen. Der Abbau ist am Sonntag erst nach Ende der Konferenz so gegen 18:00 Uhr m?glich! Wer vorher abbaut, wird n?chstes Jahr nicht mehr als Aussteller genommen. Im letztem Jahr war es sehr unangenehm, dass so viele so fr?h abgebaut haben. 5. Verlinkung auf FrOSCon.de und FrOSCon.org Bitte ?berpr?ft die Verlinkung sowie die Texte auf unserer Homepage: http://www.froscon.de/projekte.html bitte auch auch der englischen Seite! Bitte versucht im dem Text doch unterzubringen, was ihr bei uns machen werdet bzw. spezielles zeigt. 6. Social-Event In diesem Jahr wird es Samstags Abends wieder ein Social Event geben, zu dem ihr selbstverst?ndlich herzlich eingeladen seid. Es w?hre sch?n, wenn jedes Projekt nur eine E-Mail an uns schickt, in dieser sollte dann alles gesammelt stehen. Das spart uns Zeit, von der wir nicht genug haben. Bez?glich der Namensliste k?nnt ihr Euch ruhig bis zum 07.08. zeit lassen. Ihr werdet kurz vorher auch nochmal eine Erinnerungs-E-Mail erhalten. Wer allgemeine Infos rund um die Konferenz haben m?chte, kann sich gerne in unseren Newsletter eintragen, dort werden auch in K?rze unsere Keynote Speaker bekannt gegeben. Gr??e Volker und der Rest vom Orga-Team -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 259 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From elio at tondo.it Sun Jul 6 22:19:00 2008 From: elio at tondo.it (Elio Tondo) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:19:00 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Flying Fedora! Message-ID: <487144D4.5040706@tondo.it> http://hybrid.stanford.edu/starmac/overview "Finally, a PC-104 computer was added running Linux (Fedora)" http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/07/video-unmanned.html Elio From euniraugusto at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 00:52:04 2008 From: euniraugusto at gmail.com (Eunir Augusto) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 21:52:04 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Project in Portugal In-Reply-To: References: <337531360807051030v7da7b328t640cf8d235a8a51d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <337531360807061752v768abe7fh527c6c5c0a054ea2@mail.gmail.com> thanks, teseu 2008/7/6 Teseu : > Good call Eunir > > 2008/7/5 Eunir Augusto : > > My name is Eunir Augusto. Little part of this list, because focus my work > in > > the magazine Fedora in Brazil. > > > > The address is www.projetofedora.org/Revista > > > > I need to get in touch with the ambassadors of Fedora in Portugal, to > check > > the possibilities of bringing support for Fedora in Portugal, as members > who > > attend the address Portuguese Brazilian I asked. > > > > Please, the ambassadors in Portugal, come into contact me to discuss the > > feasibility of initiating the project. > > > > gtalk: euniraugusto at gmail.com > > msn: eunir at fedoraproject.org > > > > Thank you. > > > > Eunir Augusto > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > -- > "...don't underestimate the power of the dark side..." > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 01:08:34 2008 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 18:08:34 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Flying Fedora! In-Reply-To: <487144D4.5040706@tondo.it> References: <487144D4.5040706@tondo.it> Message-ID: <7a0d56080807061808w1d742aa3y10d9648c6408e1ca@mail.gmail.com> Interesting. But a small caveat: While it says that the "PC-104 was added running Linux (Fedora)" on the front page, if you go to http://hybrid.stanford.edu/starmac/software (or click the "software" tab on the main page), this page says it's running Ubuntu. Maybe that's where the "hybrid" in hybrid.stanford.edu comes from . . . ? :-) Larry Cafiero https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Lcafiero On 7/6/08, Elio Tondo wrote: > http://hybrid.stanford.edu/starmac/overview > > "Finally, a PC-104 computer was added running Linux (Fedora)" > > http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/07/video-unmanned.html > > Elio > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From eerpini at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 06:28:22 2008 From: eerpini at gmail.com (Satish Eerpini) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:58:22 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Intro In-Reply-To: References: <322c2fa00807050034r2a385b2cyf747c80625b470b6@mail.gmail.com> <901F98AB-6C35-49B7-9E62-2EFDC7C07E95@gmail.com> Message-ID: <93655eb70807062328r5291a79bx2d2b55c0d9ef6d9c@mail.gmail.com> welcome bro , i have been planning on similar Lines , ... but things are rather rigid here at VIT , so having a tough time , ... good work , ..... 2008/7/7 Junior Tomazelli : > Welcome :D > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- http://satish.playdrupal.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But a small caveat: While it says that the "PC-104 was > added running Linux (Fedora)" on the front page, if you go to > http://hybrid.stanford.edu/starmac/software (or click the "software" > tab on the main page), this page says it's running Ubuntu. > > Maybe that's where the "hybrid" in hybrid.stanford.edu comes from . . . ? :-) :-DDDD Elio From hellcomdev at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 06:39:20 2008 From: hellcomdev at gmail.com (RazGriz) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 03:39:20 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Intro In-Reply-To: <93655eb70807062328r5291a79bx2d2b55c0d9ef6d9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <322c2fa00807050034r2a385b2cyf747c80625b470b6@mail.gmail.com> <901F98AB-6C35-49B7-9E62-2EFDC7C07E95@gmail.com> <93655eb70807062328r5291a79bx2d2b55c0d9ef6d9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1f0d49220807062339g54f27ff2r5f443d8f997f87ab@mail.gmail.com> welcome bro =] 2008/7/7 Satish Eerpini : > welcome bro , > i have been planning on similar Lines , ... but things are rather rigid > here at VIT , so having a tough time , ... > good work , ..... > > 2008/7/7 Junior Tomazelli : > >> Welcome :D >> >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > http://satish.playdrupal.com > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- RazGriz The Solo_-Wing. 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N?O IMPRIMA ESTA MENSAGEM ::::: > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fedora.lin at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 13:28:06 2008 From: fedora.lin at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Lin) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:28:06 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Reminder - Leader need Message-ID: Reminder Today 20:00 UTC North & South Amercia Ambassador meeting -- Juan Carlos Lin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fedora.lin at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 13:31:34 2008 From: fedora.lin at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Lin) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:31:34 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] New leader need Message-ID: Hi all! 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N?O IMPRIMA ESTA MENSAGEM ::::: > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 15:14:21 2008 From: chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com (Dipanjan Chakraborty) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:44:21 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. In-Reply-To: <7c9ab4ad0807060432j3ef5e56er4bbdf31d3cd290d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <57173.VwBUX1dRCno=.1214297192.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <5ac533d50806240343s5d0d104bt4f97bac3b023312c@mail.gmail.com> <37812.VwBUX1dRCno=.1214309789.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <7c9ab4ad0807060432j3ef5e56er4bbdf31d3cd290d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I asked for a response from my college about the documents I submitted on the mentorship project. They want a mail (a very short one) from a neutral Fedora representative (one who is not related to the college) describing the procedure (that leaves me out since I am a student there). Will any one of you be able to do it? Sushmit, can you do it? Send the mail to < anirban.mukherjee at rcciit.in> addressed to the Principal of RCC Institute of Information Technology. Dipanjan Chakraborty 2008/7/6 Nirmal Pathak : > Hi, > > 2008/7/5 Dipanjan Chakraborty : > >> I have submitted the documents to our Training and Placement cell. They >> are going through them and I shall report to you the progress. >> >> Dipanjan Chakraborty >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Dipanjan Chakraborty < >> chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I am taking the documents to college today for submission. >>> Dipanjan Chakraborty. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 12:37 PM, susmit shannigrahi < >>> thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 6/29/08, Dipanjan Chakraborty >>>> wrote: >>>> > I had talked to the training and placement cell in our college, as I >>>> had >>>> > said earlier. They had asked me to detail the entire process. So I >>>> have >>>> > prepared a draft . There are two documents. One is a letter >>>> approaching the >>>> > college, and the other is a description of fedora. I am attaching >>>> both. >>>> > please check them if any additions or deletions are to be made. Am I >>>> > entitled to sign the letter? >>>> > There's another point, do I write fedora with a small 'f' or a >>>> capital 'F'? >>>> >>>> an/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>> >>>> Looking into the docs. Thanks for the effort. >>>> And the name should be "Fedora". >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> Susmit. >>>> >>>> I would also like to submit these documents to The M. S. University of > Baroda . I hope we get good response from > there too! > > Have Fun! > -- > Nirmal D Pathak. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > I was born free! > No Gates and Windows can restrict my Freedom!! > > Enjoy Linux! > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Roll call: who would be interested in such a meeting? --g From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Mon Jul 7 15:27:31 2008 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:27:31 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. In-Reply-To: References: <57173.VwBUX1dRCno=.1214297192.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <5ac533d50806240343s5d0d104bt4f97bac3b023312c@mail.gmail.com> <37812.VwBUX1dRCno=.1214309789.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <7c9ab4ad0807060432j3ef5e56er4bbdf31d3cd290d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <58504.VwBUX1dRCno=.1215444451.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> > I asked for a response from my college about the documents I submitted on > the mentorship project. They want a mail (a very short one) from a neutral > Fedora representative (one who is not related to the college) describing > the > procedure (that leaves me out since I am a student there). Will any one of > you be able to do it? Sushmit, can you do it? Send the mail to < > anirban.mukherjee at rcciit.in> addressed to the Principal of RCC Institute > of > Information Technology. > Maybe sending it to the list first might be a good idea. This way we could build a stronger argumentary, which could then be useful for other college partnerships. ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 15:30:14 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:00:14 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Student partnership program. Extending fedora mentor program to students. In-Reply-To: <58504.VwBUX1dRCno=.1215444451.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> References: <37812.VwBUX1dRCno=.1214309789.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <7c9ab4ad0807060432j3ef5e56er4bbdf31d3cd290d0@mail.gmail.com> <58504.VwBUX1dRCno=.1215444451.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: > Maybe sending it to the list first might be a good idea. This way we could > build a stronger argumentary, which could then be useful for other college > partnerships. Yes, ofcourse, Probably I shalll put it on a wiki page too :) -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From pcalarco at nd.edu Mon Jul 7 15:30:13 2008 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:30:13 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America / South America ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48723685.10506@nd.edu> Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > North American ambassadors: I would like to propose a bi-weekly meeting. > Roll call: who would be interested in such a meeting? > > --g I'll be there as often as I can make it. - pascal From linux at elfshadow.net Mon Jul 7 16:11:07 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:11:07 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America / South America ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10e0a9b00807070911i54337018l387c0cfdd141cb68@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > Which leaves North America. > > North American ambassadors: I would like to propose a bi-weekly meeting. > Roll call: who would be interested in such a meeting? I am interested in such a meeting. Thanks, Jeffrey From neo.reeves at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 16:25:31 2008 From: neo.reeves at gmail.com (Neo Reeves) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:25:31 +0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Attn: Maldivian Ambassadors Message-ID: Just checking out to see whether any of us is active in the group. If I get a response I wish to get re-organized locally and be effective in the Fedora projects and events. - Sameeh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danishka at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 16:32:27 2008 From: danishka at gmail.com (Danishka Navin) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 22:02:27 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Attn: Maldivian Ambassadors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Sameeh, I'm from Sri Lanka, recently we had a FOSS event for the MALDIVIAN STUDENTS ASSOCIATION IN SRI LANKA 2008/7/7 Neo Reeves : > Just checking out to see whether any of us is active in the group. If I get > a response I wish to get re-organized locally and be effective in the Fedora > projects and events. > > - Sameeh > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com (use Sinhala Unicode fonts) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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By coincidence, I happen to be wearing my Brazilian ambassadors shirt today -- I'm giving my New Hire Orientation to Red Hat employees, and I'm bragging to them about how awesome our Brazilians are. ;) --g From neo.reeves at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 17:10:49 2008 From: neo.reeves at gmail.com (Neo Reeves) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 22:10:49 +0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Attn: Maldivian Ambassadors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thnx Danishka, That is nice...any more details regarding the event?? Links ?? 2008/7/7 Danishka Navin : > Hi Sameeh, > > I'm from Sri Lanka, recently we had a FOSS event for the > > MALDIVIAN STUDENTS ASSOCIATION IN SRI LANKA > 2008/7/7 Neo Reeves : > >> Just checking out to see whether any of us is active in the group. If I >> get a response I wish to get re-organized locally and be effective in the >> Fedora projects and events. >> >> - Sameeh >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > Danishka Navin > http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com (use Sinhala Unicode fonts) > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- .:: BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ::. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If I >>> get a response I wish to get re-organized locally and be effective in the >>> Fedora projects and events. >>> >>> - Sameeh >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Danishka Navin >> http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com (use Sinhala Unicode fonts) >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > .:: BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ::. > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com (use Sinhala Unicode fonts) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As long as the meetings consist of more than roll call followed by cancellation for lack of a quorum. :) John From charlie at linuxdragon.net Mon Jul 7 17:59:05 2008 From: charlie at linuxdragon.net (Charlie) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:59:05 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America / South America ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8b94cdda5196e4dfd0c2bd91e2d41576@mail.linuxdragon.net> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:26:01 -0400 (EDT), Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Juan Carlos Lin wrote: > >> Hi all! >> >> Need new leader for North & south America meetings volunteer >> >> Because of Internet constant problems in Paraguay, can not hold regular >> meeting and causing delay on the project. > > Thanks for your efforts, Juan Carlos. > > I think it's time to separate the North American and South American > meetings. > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira is already pushing to organize both LATAM and > Brazilian meetings on a regular basis. I have cc'd him on this email. > > Which leaves North America. > > North American ambassadors: I would like to propose a bi-weekly meeting. > Roll call: who would be interested in such a meeting? > > --g > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list I am very interested. -- Charlie From david at gnsa.us Mon Jul 7 17:46:38 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:46:38 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America / South America ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:35 PM, inode0 wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: >> Which leaves North America. >> >> North American ambassadors: I would like to propose a bi-weekly meeting. >> Roll call: who would be interested in such a meeting? > > As long as the meetings consist of more than roll call followed by > cancellation for lack of a quorum. :) > I'd be interested provided there are concrete items to discuss and make decisions on. An hour long meeting that is nothing more than status reports on forthcoming events is at best ineffective. While narrowing that down to the continent will help relevance, the content needs to be appropriate as well. David Nalley From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Mon Jul 7 18:09:25 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:09:25 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America / South America ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/7/7 inode0 : > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: >> Which leaves North America. >> >> North American ambassadors: I would like to propose a bi-weekly meeting. >> Roll call: who would be interested in such a meeting? > > As long as the meetings consist of more than roll call followed by > cancellation for lack of a quorum. :) > > John > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > I think it's necessary a continuity to cancel the Meeting Chair's "Lack of quorum" nightmare. I saw that if there is constance holding those meetings, people will easily remember it and will join it, if this one is broken people will forget to attend those ones. Naturally this is the tip of the iceberg, but I wanted to share with all of you that lesson I've learned: people need a reason, a place and the voice :), with those elements you will have a successful meeting (leadership included). Naturally, if I would able to attend I will do it. Regards Francesco Ugolini From gdk at redhat.com Mon Jul 7 18:14:08 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:14:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] North America / South America ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, inode0 wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: >> Which leaves North America. >> >> North American ambassadors: I would like to propose a bi-weekly meeting. >> Roll call: who would be interested in such a meeting? > > As long as the meetings consist of more than roll call followed by > cancellation for lack of a quorum. :) > > John Well, that all depends upon us, doesn't it? :) We need a strong core of no less than 4-6 folks who will be there every meeting. My take: we should be getting together every two weeks. If we can get this quorum to agree, we can gather enough momentum to make these meetings meaningful. I will lead for now. My take: evenings are better than days. Maybe every other Tuesday, 9pm Eastern, starting Tuesday the 15th? --g From charlie at linuxdragon.net Mon Jul 7 18:17:13 2008 From: charlie at linuxdragon.net (Charlie) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:17:13 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America / South America ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <37818b5a57cbb6f2f1d222f173199083@mail.linuxdragon.net> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:09:25 +0200, "Francesco Ugolini" wrote: > 2008/7/7 inode0 : >> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg > wrote: >>> Which leaves North America. >>> >>> North American ambassadors: I would like to propose a bi-weekly > meeting. >>> Roll call: who would be interested in such a meeting? >> >> As long as the meetings consist of more than roll call followed by >> cancellation for lack of a quorum. :) >> >> John >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > I think it's necessary a continuity to cancel the Meeting Chair's > "Lack of quorum" nightmare. > > I saw that if there is constance holding those meetings, people will > easily remember it and will join it, if this one is broken people will > forget to attend those ones. > > Naturally this is the tip of the iceberg, but I wanted to share with > all of you that lesson I've learned: people need a reason, a place and > the voice :), with those elements you will have a successful meeting > (leadership included). > > Naturally, if I would able to attend I will do it. > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list I agree with Francesco that having consistency in the meeting dates will help participants remember, and plan to attend. With regular meetings also comes the ease of advertising those meetings to would-be participants. By having a tighter schedule (every two weeks) we can ensure that if you miss a meeting, or one is canceled, you will not have to wait very long to address a topic in that forum. -- Charlie From pcalarco at nd.edu Mon Jul 7 18:27:35 2008 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:27:35 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America / South America ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48726017.1040702@nd.edu> Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > We need a strong core of no less than 4-6 folks who will be there every > meeting. My take: we should be getting together every two weeks. If we > can get this quorum to agree, we can gather enough momentum to make > these meetings meaningful. I will lead for now. > > My take: evenings are better than days. Maybe every other Tuesday, 9pm > Eastern, starting Tuesday the 15th? > > --g +1; evenings are likely much less problematic for most of us who are hectic during the day. - pascal From gdk at redhat.com Mon Jul 7 18:27:18 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:27:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] North America / South America ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: <37818b5a57cbb6f2f1d222f173199083@mail.linuxdragon.net> References: <37818b5a57cbb6f2f1d222f173199083@mail.linuxdragon.net> Message-ID: > I agree with Francesco that having consistency in the meeting dates will > help participants remember, and plan to attend. With regular meetings > also comes the ease of advertising those meetings to would-be > participants. Yes. I will make this happen. > By having a tighter schedule (every two weeks) we can ensure that if you > miss a meeting, or one is canceled, you will not have to wait very long > to address a topic in that forum. So let's agree on the date. :) To repeat my initial proposition: every two weeks, 9pm Eastern US time, starting on Tuesday July 15th. If I get at least four +1s, and more +1s than -1s, I'll set it up. --g From charlie at linuxdragon.net Mon Jul 7 18:34:51 2008 From: charlie at linuxdragon.net (Charlie) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:34:51 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America / South America ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <93c07771d172bc1cf134053b472eee5e@mail.linuxdragon.net> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:14:08 -0400 (EDT), Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, inode0 wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg > wrote: >>> Which leaves North America. >>> >>> North American ambassadors: I would like to propose a bi-weekly > meeting. >>> Roll call: who would be interested in such a meeting? >> >> As long as the meetings consist of more than roll call followed by >> cancellation for lack of a quorum. :) >> >> John > > Well, that all depends upon us, doesn't it? :) > > We need a strong core of no less than 4-6 folks who will be there every > meeting. My take: we should be getting together every two weeks. If we > can get this quorum to agree, we can gather enough momentum to make these > meetings meaningful. I will lead for now. > > My take: evenings are better than days. Maybe every other Tuesday, 9pm > Eastern, starting Tuesday the 15th? > > --g > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list 9PM Eastern works for me, and will hopefully be late enough for those on the west coast. As for leading meetings - I'd be willing to do so, with some guidance from Greg. -- Charlie From charlie at linuxdragon.net Mon Jul 7 18:37:11 2008 From: charlie at linuxdragon.net (Charlie) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:37:11 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America / South America ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: References: <37818b5a57cbb6f2f1d222f173199083@mail.linuxdragon.net> Message-ID: <55a5806bb4d7ea8c83c428735490cb52@mail.linuxdragon.net> >>9pm Eastern US time, starting on Tuesday July 15th. +1 -- Charlie From inode0 at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 18:50:35 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:50:35 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America / South America ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, inode0 wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg >> wrote: >>> >>> Which leaves North America. >>> >>> North American ambassadors: I would like to propose a bi-weekly meeting. >>> Roll call: who would be interested in such a meeting? >> >> As long as the meetings consist of more than roll call followed by >> cancellation for lack of a quorum. :) >> >> John > > Well, that all depends upon us, doesn't it? :) Yes it does. > We need a strong core of no less than 4-6 folks who will be there every > meeting. My take: we should be getting together every two weeks. If we can > get this quorum to agree, we can gather enough momentum to make these > meetings meaningful. I will lead for now. > > My take: evenings are better than days. Maybe every other Tuesday, 9pm > Eastern, starting Tuesday the 15th? +1 John From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 19:05:03 2008 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:05:03 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America / South America ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7a0d56080807071205j5c092c8en4ed9422976a1fc40@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > North American ambassadors: I would like to propose a bi-weekly meeting. > Roll call: who would be interested in such a meeting? I cannot make 7/15 because of the Lindependence 2008 event in Felton, California, that evening, but all other Tuesdays at 6 Pacific Time work for me. Larry Cafiero From jayme at jaymeayres.com Mon Jul 7 19:33:49 2008 From: jayme at jaymeayres.com (Jayme Ayres) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 16:33:49 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Software Freedom Day t-shirts In-Reply-To: References: <64b33fc70807041208p345c159amd7da3f7ed917106a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <64b33fc70807071233q4041b54cmde9215dcb7642665@mail.gmail.com> Hey Dude!!!! Cool! That coincidence, me too! =) 2008/7/7 Greg Dekoenigsberg : > > > On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, Jayme Ayres wrote: > >> By the way, I?ve added an Artwork/T-Shirt design I made for the Fedora >> Ambassadors in Brazil - inspired by the art of the video >> >> http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/08/02/video-meet-the-fedora-ambassadors/ >> ) produced after FISL 7.0 >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt#Events > > Brilliant! > > By coincidence, I happen to be wearing my Brazilian ambassadors shirt today > -- I'm giving my New Hire Orientation to Red Hat employees, and I'm bragging > to them about how awesome our Brazilians are. ;) > > --g > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com www.projetofedora.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Mon Jul 7 20:05:13 2008 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:05:13 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Reminder - Leader need In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <487276F9.4030906@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Juan Carlos Lin escreveu: | Reminder | | Today 20:00 UTC North & South Amercia Ambassador meeting | | -- | Juan Carlos Lin Now, like said by Greg, the Fedora LATAM meeting have a new day. Please, see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meetings All meetings are attended by me(Brazil), Juan(Mexico) or Guillermo (Venezuela). - -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America http://www.proyectofedora.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhydvYACgkQ024P1ALZT56IRwCg4vb8SjrUeI0mqmMZEglFSFKD Qv8An1JcxyDnJXESxaSU51PL7xglGPZL =vu4o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From herlo1 at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 20:19:04 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:19:04 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America / South America ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080807071205j5c092c8en4ed9422976a1fc40@mail.gmail.com> References: <7a0d56080807071205j5c092c8en4ed9422976a1fc40@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Larry Cafiero wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > >> North American ambassadors: I would like to propose a bi-weekly meeting. >> Roll call: who would be interested in such a meeting? > > I cannot make 7/15 because of the Lindependence 2008 event in Felton, > California, that evening, but all other Tuesdays at 6 Pacific Time > work for me. > > Larry Cafiero > If the meetings were early or late in the day, I could attend. Midday as most of the meetings seem to be, never allows me to attend. Cheers, Clint From linux at elfshadow.net Mon Jul 7 20:43:21 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 16:43:21 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America / South America ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: References: <37818b5a57cbb6f2f1d222f173199083@mail.linuxdragon.net> Message-ID: <10e0a9b00807071343hb329945n8593cb9ac46a5511@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > So let's agree on the date. :) > > To repeat my initial proposition: every two weeks, 9pm Eastern US time, > starting on Tuesday July 15th. +1 From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Tue Jul 8 01:16:48 2008 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:16:48 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Firefox 3 and Fedora 9 - Release Party - Rio de Janeiro Message-ID: <4872C000.4060305@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello Guys! Forgive me for the delay, following the photos of the party. Pictures at: http://festasfirefox.ning.com/photo/photo/listForContributor?screenName=1kcg3b57qnrfr&uploaded=1 - -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America http://www.proyectofedora.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhyv/0ACgkQ024P1ALZT54CsgCg3gZFfP9yIluHOvqg8qpcstJO yTEAoNQKOelmj0poqmgRPkK0x4bt3mIJ =G5nq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From charlie at linuxdragon.net Tue Jul 8 01:54:53 2008 From: charlie at linuxdragon.net (Charlie D Whitehead III) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:54:53 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Firefox 3 and Fedora 9 - Release Party - Rio de Janeiro In-Reply-To: <4872C000.4060305@projetofedora.org> References: <4872C000.4060305@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <1215482093.20734.0.camel@minime> On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 22:16 -0300, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello Guys! > > Forgive me for the delay, following the photos of the party. > > Pictures at: > http://festasfirefox.ning.com/photo/photo/listForContributor?screenName=1kcg3b57qnrfr&uploaded=1 > > - -- > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ > Fedora Community Manager - Latin America > http://www.proyectofedora.org > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkhyv/0ACgkQ024P1ALZT54CsgCg3gZFfP9yIluHOvqg8qpcstJO > yTEAoNQKOelmj0poqmgRPkK0x4bt3mIJ > =G5nq > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list It looks like you all had a great time. -- Charlie From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 02:12:00 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 20:12:00 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America / South America ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: References: <37818b5a57cbb6f2f1d222f173199083@mail.linuxdragon.net> Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > >> I agree with Francesco that having consistency in the meeting dates will >> help participants remember, and plan to attend. With regular meetings also >> comes the ease of advertising those meetings to would-be participants. > > Yes. I will make this happen. > >> By having a tighter schedule (every two weeks) we can ensure that if you >> miss a meeting, or one is canceled, you will not have to wait very long to >> address a topic in that forum. > > So let's agree on the date. :) > > To repeat my initial proposition: every two weeks, 9pm Eastern US time, > starting on Tuesday July 15th. > +1 Greg, didn't see this one before. That's a perfect time for me :) Cheers, Clint From tushar.neupaney at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 02:31:33 2008 From: tushar.neupaney at gmail.com (Tushar Neupaney) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:16:33 +0545 Subject: [Ambassadors] Intro In-Reply-To: <322c2fa00807050034r2a385b2cyf747c80625b470b6@mail.gmail.com> References: <322c2fa00807050034r2a385b2cyf747c80625b470b6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Ankit, I am Tushar Neupaney from Nepal. You are welcome to the group. Wishes, Tushar. 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Also, go kick ass at Lindependence. :) --g From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jul 8 06:25:55 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 02:25:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] North America / South America ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: References: <7a0d56080807071205j5c092c8en4ed9422976a1fc40@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Clint Savage wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Larry Cafiero wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: >> >>> North American ambassadors: I would like to propose a bi-weekly meeting. >>> Roll call: who would be interested in such a meeting? >> >> I cannot make 7/15 because of the Lindependence 2008 event in Felton, >> California, that evening, but all other Tuesdays at 6 Pacific Time >> work for me. >> >> Larry Cafiero >> > > If the meetings were early or late in the day, I could attend. Midday > as most of the meetings seem to be, never allows me to attend. Are you in Pacific or Mountain time? Is 9pm Eastern still too early for you to attend? --g From CGR at HUD.DE Tue Jul 8 09:06:34 2008 From: CGR at HUD.DE (GRAMS, CHRISTIAN) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:06:34 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Focus-Days Message-ID: <2BD790CBFCC5164DB1D7250B34FCA8D30D9344@s-gf-is-003.HD.HUD> Hi to all Ambassadors, i have a question and request. My company is planning on doing Focus-Days for certain Subjects of interest. One major Focus-Day will have the subject "IT-Security". Companies (our customers) will be invited to take part. This is something we plan on doing regularly (once every 3 months at the moment). For this Focus-Day (sometime in october) I would love to have a speaker from the Fedora Project. It should be a security related subject tailored for decision makers / it-administrators / ceo?s. Length should be about 1 hour. Language - German (please!!) Any chance of making this possible? 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URL: From wonderer4711 at gmx.de Tue Jul 8 09:54:09 2008 From: wonderer4711 at gmx.de (wonderer4711 at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:54:09 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] new group in social network wer-kennt-wen, germany Message-ID: <48733941.2010904@gmx.de> Hy, most info probably for german guys, but if anybody want also join: under http://www.wer-kennt-wen.de/club_qtb74tv6_Fedora.html you can join the Fedora-group in the german social network. More info about the network can be found under http://www.wer-kennt-wen.de/wer_sind_wir.html If you have any questions you can also contact me directly under wonderer at fedoraproject.org --- geman version --- Hallo, unter http://www.wer-kennt-wen.de/club_qtb74tv6_Fedora.html ist die neue Fedora-Gruppe bei wer-kennt-wen zu finden. weitere Infos zu wer-kennt-wen allgemein ist unter http://www.wer-kennt-wen.de/wer_sind_wir.html zu finden. bei Fragen bitte gerne auch an wonderer at fedoraproject.org sincerly Henrik From gerold at lugd.org Tue Jul 8 10:00:59 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:00:59 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] new group in social network wer-kennt-wen, germany In-Reply-To: <48733941.2010904@gmx.de> References: <48733941.2010904@gmx.de> Message-ID: <18191.217.162.12.42.1215511259.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Hi too, is that the correct LOGO which should be used (see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines); I'm not sure because I wear glasses :-) If not, please change to be compliant ... .. otherwise ignore my complaints. Regards Gerold > Hy, > > most info probably for german guys, but if anybody want also join: > > under http://www.wer-kennt-wen.de/club_qtb74tv6_Fedora.html you can join > the Fedora-group in the german social network. > More info about the network can be found under > http://www.wer-kennt-wen.de/wer_sind_wir.html > If you have any questions you can also contact me directly under > wonderer at fedoraproject.org > > --- geman version --- > Hallo, > > unter http://www.wer-kennt-wen.de/club_qtb74tv6_Fedora.html ist die > neue Fedora-Gruppe bei wer-kennt-wen zu finden. > weitere Infos zu wer-kennt-wen allgemein ist unter > http://www.wer-kennt-wen.de/wer_sind_wir.html zu finden. > bei Fragen bitte gerne auch an wonderer at fedoraproject.org > > sincerly > Henrik > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 14:08:13 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:08:13 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America / South America ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: References: <7a0d56080807071205j5c092c8en4ed9422976a1fc40@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > Are you in Pacific or Mountain time? Is 9pm Eastern still too early for you > to attend? > Mountain Time, however I missed the comment about 9pm EDT so I am good. Already gave a +1 in a previous email in this thread. Sorry for the confusion. Clint From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Jul 8 16:11:52 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:11:52 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Lindependence and RMLL reports? Message-ID: Over the weekend, two interesting events happened -- one was Lindependence and the other was RMLL. No time pressure, as I know that everyone is busy -- but I'm curious to see the event reports from both of those, both from the perspective of how things went, but also from the perspective of whether or not we should fund them again next year. I hope they both went well! --Max From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 18:11:20 2008 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:11:20 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Lindependence and RMLL reports? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7a0d56080807081111tb3b18aei5bbff4ad010bc3ec@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Max -- Actually, Lindependence starts on Sunday, July 13 -- it was originally scheduled for July 4, but it was pushed back a week. Two Lindependence events next week are July 13 and July 15 at Taylor Hall in Felton Presbyterian Church, 6090 Highway 9, Felton, Calif. For more information, see http://www.lindependence.net As the organizer of Lindependence, I can assure you that Fedora will be adequately represented :-) Larry Cafiero http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Lcafiero On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > Over the weekend, two interesting events happened -- one was Lindependence > and the other was RMLL. > > No time pressure, as I know that everyone is busy -- but I'm curious to see > the event reports from both of those, both from the perspective of how > things went, but also from the perspective of whether or not we should fund > them again next year. > > I hope they both went well! > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Jul 8 18:24:14 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:24:14 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Lindependence and RMLL reports? In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080807081111tb3b18aei5bbff4ad010bc3ec@mail.gmail.com> References: <7a0d56080807081111tb3b18aei5bbff4ad010bc3ec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Larry Cafiero wrote: > Actually, Lindependence starts on Sunday, July 13 -- it was originally > scheduled for July 4, but it was pushed back a week. Two Lindependence > events next week are July 13 and July 15 at Taylor Hall in Felton > Presbyterian Church, 6090 Highway 9, Felton, Calif. > > For more information, see http://www.lindependence.net > > As the organizer of Lindependence, I can assure you that Fedora will > be adequately represented :-) Alrighty, then. Calendars and I don't get along. Good luck at the event! ;) --Max From pingou at pingoured.fr Tue Jul 8 19:07:45 2008 From: pingou at pingoured.fr (Pierre-Yves) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:07:45 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Lindependence and RMLL =?UTF-8?Q?reports=3F?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4d4e9c7947f5ee71f1959ae7ced28934@localhost> On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:11:52 +0200 (CEST), Max Spevack wrote: > Over the weekend, two interesting events happened -- one was > Lindependence and the other was RMLL. > > No time pressure, as I know that everyone is busy Hi For the RMLL, we have asked our friends that were there to send a small evaluation, but the first feed back have been good :) Regards, Pierre From invite+plfdfcg1 at facebookmail.com Tue Jul 8 19:23:05 2008 From: invite+plfdfcg1 at facebookmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?RnJhbmNpc2NvIEphdmllciBSb2Ryw61ndWV6IEFyaWFz?=) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:23:05 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Visita mi perfil de Facebook Message-ID: He creado un perfil de Facebook donde puedo publicar mis im?genes, v?deos y eventos, y quiero agregarte como amigo/a para que puedas verlo. En primer lugar, deber?s registrarte en Facebook. Una vez registrado/a, tambi?n podr?s crear tu propio perfil. Gracias, Francisco ?sta es la direcci?n: http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=530585454&k=ZV153XTSWX4M5AAEQ1ZYQ4&r&v=2 ___________________ Este correo electr?nico puede contener material promocional. Si no deseas recibir m?s correos publicitarios de Facebook, haz clic en el siguiente enlace. Las oficinas de Facebook se encuentran en 156 University Ave., Palo Alto, CA 94301. http://www.facebook.com/o.php?u=1355025509&k=0f491a -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jul 8 19:23:04 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 15:23:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] North American ambassador meeting: Tuesday 15 July, 9pm ET In-Reply-To: References: <7a0d56080807071205j5c092c8en4ed9422976a1fc40@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello all. Since I got enough +1 votes, I will be calling the New And Improved Lowfat Fuller Flavored NORTH AMERICAN AMBASSADORS MEETING! Place: #fedora-meeting, irc.freenode.net Time: Tuesday July 15th, 9pm Eastern US time Agenda: Kickoff meeting, discuss goals of North American ambassadors This meeting will be held fortnightly. (That's every two weeks for you speakers of American.) --g From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Jul 8 20:09:19 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 22:09:19 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Visita mi perfil de Facebook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/7/8 Francisco Javier Rodr?guez Arias : > facebook > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > I sent an email few days ago with an explicit ban to every mass mail service sent to a public list (Fedora Ambassadors List). Now, I have to discuss about this specific case with the other FAmSCo members. If, and that's true, the previous same situation was forgiven, now it's strange that after less than a week the same situation happened. We can't accept a spam list, and I and all List administrators have to guarantee all the readers. BTW, if you use a web service that allow to send mass mails, please pay attention not to include list adresses or it will cause such "bad" situation, that now aren't acceptable. Sorry, but we have to make this statment clear (I will create a specific thread about this issue after FAmSCo will decide about this case). Regards Francesco Ugolini From elio at tondo.it Tue Jul 8 20:53:05 2008 From: elio at tondo.it (Elio Tondo) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:53:05 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Visita mi perfil de Facebook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4873D3B1.1080609@tondo.it> Francesco Ugolini wrote: > I sent an email few days ago with an explicit ban to every mass mail > service sent to a public list (Fedora Ambassadors List). > > ... > > We can't accept a spam list, and I and all List administrators have to > guarantee all the readers. Thank you, Francesco. I would also suggest two simple rules for self-moderation: 1) when someone writes an introduction to the list, it's obvious that we all are happy to have a new Ambassador; please send congratulations and greetings to the private address of the sender, not to the list; 2) please avoid writing in languages different from English. The ambassadors and marketing lists are already rather hi-traffic, let's try to keep exchanges at an useful level (I am often forced to mark tens of messages as read because I can't find the time to read them all). Thanks to all for your cooperation. Regards, Elio Tondo From axelilly at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 13:34:42 2008 From: axelilly at gmail.com (Jason Fenner) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:34:42 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America / South America ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > > > North American ambassadors: I would like to propose a bi-weekly meeting. > Roll call: who would be interested in such a meeting? > > I am interested in attending. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards Ankit Govil 2008/7/9 Jason Fenner : > > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg > wrote: > >> >> >> >> North American ambassadors: I would like to propose a bi-weekly meeting. >> Roll call: who would be interested in such a meeting? >> >> > > I am interested in attending. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kushaldas at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 14:37:34 2008 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:07:34 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America / South America ambassador meetings In-Reply-To: <322c2fa00807090656y921eab9k7d847e7d08a80c82@mail.gmail.com> References: <322c2fa00807090656y921eab9k7d847e7d08a80c82@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200807092007.35092.kushaldas@gmail.com> On Wednesday 09 July 2008 07:26:55 pm ankit govil wrote: > May be i am knew but would like to know why indian/asian ambassador have a > meet? We can make this promoting fedora project a success together. I think > under all experienced fedora ambassadors we can do it. Anyone interested > please reply back. See the Fedora-India mailing list. Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.in http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur) From saahil.in at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 18:14:36 2008 From: saahil.in at gmail.com (Saahil Hakimuddin) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 23:44:36 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] I just joined Fedora Ambassadors Message-ID: Hi, I am Saahil Hakimuddin and i am an undergraduate student at Manipal Institute of Technology, Karnataka, India. I am pursuing my Bachelor of Engineering degree from this institute in Computer Science and Engineering. I have been using linux since 2 years now, been using fedora 8 since october last year and have now completely moved on to open source. I am a member of the Linux User Group in my institute. I have a working knowledge of C++, java, html, flash and other web development tools. I am also doing a self learning course of Android SDK. I plan to take part in programmes related to spreading awareness about open source platforms, how powerful open source development tools can be and the role of peer discussions and public forums in the world of open source technology. I want to represent my country India from Manipal, Karnataka region. thanks for your help and support saahil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I would also suggest two simple rules for > self-moderation: > > 1) when someone writes an introduction to the list, it's obvious that we all > are happy to have a new Ambassador; please send congratulations and > greetings to the private address of the sender, not to the list; > > 2) please avoid writing in languages different from English. > > The ambassadors and marketing lists are already rather hi-traffic, let's try > to keep exchanges at an useful level (I am often forced to mark tens of > messages as read because I can't find the time to read them all). > > Thanks to all for your cooperation. > > Regards, > Elio Tondo > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Somewhere in the wiki there is a page with all the communications rules (in ambassador section too). Sometimes people forget those one, and I can assure I and the other moderators are keeping attention to this issue. For the second issue, it's true and i've asked people to write in their own language (except the last mail). Regards Francesco Ugolini From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 20:13:05 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:43:05 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] I just joined Fedora Ambassadors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wqelcome :) 2008/7/9 Saahil Hakimuddin : > Hi, > I am Saahil Hakimuddin and i am an undergraduate student at Manipal > Institute of Technology, Karnataka, India. ... > I want to represent my country India > from Manipal, Karnataka region. > thanks for your help and support > saahil > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From bigyan.techie at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 20:22:01 2008 From: bigyan.techie at gmail.com (BiGYaN) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:52:01 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] I just joined Fedora Ambassadors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8a9a812b0807091322v7adb8797k107f4b81962b7095@mail.gmail.com> Welcome abroad from, Bigyan Bhar Check out my Blog : http://naygib.blogspot.com/ Imagination is more important than knowledge. 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Imagination encircles the world. --- Albert Einstein Imagination is the mother of creativity --- D.Tamal On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 1:43 AM, susmit shannigrahi < thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com> wrote: > Wqelcome :) > > 2008/7/9 Saahil Hakimuddin : > > Hi, > > I am Saahil Hakimuddin and i am an undergraduate student at Manipal > > Institute of Technology, Karnataka, India. > ... > > I want to represent my country India > > from Manipal, Karnataka region. > > thanks for your help and support > > saahil > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit > ============================================= > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I plan to take part in programmes related to > spreading awareness about open source platforms, how powerful open source > development tools can be and the role of peer discussions and public forums > in the world of open source technology. I want to represent my country India > from Manipal, Karnataka region. > thanks for your help and support > saahil > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tushar.neupaney at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 02:13:34 2008 From: tushar.neupaney at gmail.com (Tushar Neupaney) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:58:34 +0545 Subject: [Ambassadors] Workshop about Linux in Dharan, Nepal -- Help! wanted Message-ID: Dear ambassadors, I am conducting a three day workshop in BPKIHS, Dharan, this is a medical university and I hope that at least a 1000 people will attend. To make this opportunity an event of a lifetime and utilize it to motive many to use Linux is my prime goal. Can anyone contribute to the materials that are needed to be discussed in the workshop. The things that should not be missed and anything special that can be done economically and easily to motive people. The tentative date of starting is August 20. (Date still flexible) We can support: 1. Hall for workshop. 2. Some computers (Not all can get one! limitation due to the crowd) 3. We also have a small set of volunteers (Count: 30) 4. Other supports are still to come.... Hoping to get some support, Best Regards, Tushar. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From euniraugusto at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 02:33:11 2008 From: euniraugusto at gmail.com (Eunir Augusto) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 23:33:11 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora project in Portugal Message-ID: <337531360807091933h2eb5da58lc37f9ee021908d2c@mail.gmail.com> Giving up work, indicate the address to the address www.projectofedora.orgofficial www.fedoraproject.org We had just a touch of Portuguese ambassadors. In principle, I am making the portal in localhost, and this will be powered by the Portuguese ambassador Silvio Reis How is undergoing tests, we believe sensible to leave the original being directed. Please, the other ambassadors in Portugal, come into contact so we can bring the Fedora project for Portugal. We have the support of you. Besides me, the Brazilian ambassador Erick Goes are contributing. We support the Brazilian project in Portugal, for growth of Linux Fedora. We expect the other ambassadors Portuguese Thanks. 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As for the limitation of Computers if you can get a projector and use it to display the difference between Windows and Fedora and let people take out of there mind that windows is more user friendly etc, and see that Fedora is the new Generation of OS, Fedora can give them the opportunity to report a bug and work on fixing it and have an Fix while if that happens in Windows Environment they have to wait until there Lab can find the fix and if it wasn?t serious for them he have to wait till a next SP to be released? So as I see expressing the Fedora Freedom is the key to win users heart and mind.K Keep us updated how it goes. Regards, Chadi Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:58:34 +0545From: tushar.neupaney at gmail.comTo: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com; fedora-marketing-list at redhat.comCC: Subject: [Ambassadors] Workshop about Linux in Dharan, Nepal -- Help! wantedDear ambassadors,I am conducting a three day workshop in BPKIHS, Dharan, this is a medical university and I hope that at least a 1000 people will attend.To make this opportunity an event of a lifetime and utilize it to motive many to use Linux is my prime goal.Can anyone contribute to the materials that are needed to be discussed in the workshop.The things that should not be missed and anything special that can be done economically and easily to motive people.The tentative date of starting is August 20. (Date still flexible)We can support:1. Hall for workshop.2. Some computers (Not all can get one! limitation due to the crowd)3. We also have a small set of volunteers (Count: 30)4. 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I have been using linux since 2 years now, been using fedora 8 since october last year and have now completely moved on to open source. I am a member of the Linux User Group in my institute. I have a working knowledge of C++, java, html, flash and other web development tools. I am also doing a self learning course of Android SDK. I plan to take part in programmes related to spreading awareness about open source platforms, how powerful open source development tools can be and the role of peer discussions and public forums in the world of open source technology. I want to represent my country India from Manipal, Karnataka region. thanks for your help and support saahil -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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I have a working knowledge of C++, java, html, flash and other web development tools. I am also doing a self learning course of Android SDK. I plan to take part in programmes related to spreading awareness about open source platforms, how powerful open source development tools can be and the role of peer discussions and public forums in the world of open source technology. I want to represent my country India from Manipal, Karnataka region. thanks for your help and support saahil -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Connect with friends all over the world. Get Yahoo! India Messenger at http://in.messenger.yahoo.com/?wm=n/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am pursuing my Bachelor of > Engineering degree from this institute in Computer Science and Engineering. > I have been using linux since 2 years now, been using fedora 8 since october > last year and have now completely moved on to open source. I am a member of > the Linux User Group in my institute. I have a working knowledge of C++, > java, html, flash and other web development tools. I am also doing a self > learning course of Android SDK. I plan to take part in programmes related to > spreading awareness about open source platforms, how powerful open source > development tools can be and the role of peer discussions and public forums > in the world of open source technology. 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For more info please refer to https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-June/msg00253.html and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora-Student_Mentor_Programme -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From tushar.neupaney at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 06:24:21 2008 From: tushar.neupaney at gmail.com (Tushar Neupaney) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:09:21 +0545 Subject: [Ambassadors] thinking about the mentor program In-Reply-To: <49d06cc40807092209r2519c731g18bbbc381060a2a9@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d06cc40807092209r2519c731g18bbbc381060a2a9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Ahsan, Why don't you come to our program in Dharan, Nepal. We are organizing a workshop on August second week. Maybe you have seen my thread. This will be a great opportunity for both of us. There is no registration charge and lodging is something I can manage(But let me know how many are interested first). You can come by bus (We don't pay any transport charges, sorry). It does not take you more than 3000 Indian Currency each for both way travel. I can provide you itinerary and other details if you and your friend are interested. Tushar. On 10/07/2008, Ahsan wrote: > > Dear fellow ambassadors, > > Here in Bangladesh, i think many students from my univ specially, will > volunteer to work in FEDORA... If only some mentoring system was there... > some kind of tutorial and read mes on how to start and some mentors to > oversee/suggest the interested persons .... > > Hoping to get some positive answers :) > > -- > Md. Ahsanur Rashid, > > Undergraduate Student, > Level-4, Term-1, > Department of Computer Science and Engineering (CSE), > Bangladesh University of Engineering & Technology (BUET), > Dhaka-1000, Bangladesh. > Tel - (+88) 01715621323 > > Web: http://introspection.me.uk/ > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saahil.in at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 07:56:31 2008 From: saahil.in at gmail.com (Saahil Hakimuddin) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:26:31 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Workshop about Linux in Dharan, Nepal -- Help! wanted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hello tushar, as for the limitation in the number of computer, i think one of our friends has already suggested to get a white screen projector and guide through the installation process and put on all the presentations via that projector. the most important thing to remember is to get someone who can speak very confidently and informatively about the powers of open source computing and contrasts proprietory softwares and open source ones. i remember, during the introductory meet of the Linux User Group in our institute, the speaker got a video downloaded from youtube which showed the graphics superiority of compiz fusion and beryl to those used in windows vista as well as MAC OS Leopard. doing that is important because the main reason cited by the non users of open source for not switching is that the UI of linux OSs is not very appealing and user friendly to them. clearing that myth is very important. further u can guide the participants throught the installation process, thereby also introducing them to the fact that even installation of one of the linux OSs is very simple and straightforward. have fun and happy computing...!! all the best saahil 2008/7/10 Tushar Neupaney : > Dear ambassadors, > > I am conducting a three day workshop in BPKIHS, Dharan, this is a medical > university and I hope that at least a 1000 people will attend. > > To make this opportunity an event of a lifetime and utilize it to motive > many to use Linux is my prime goal. > > Can anyone contribute to the materials that are needed to be discussed in > the workshop. > The things that should not be missed and anything special that can be done > economically and easily to motive people. > > The tentative date of starting is August 20. (Date still flexible) > > We can support: > 1. Hall for workshop. > 2. Some computers (Not all can get one! limitation due to the crowd) > 3. We also have a small set of volunteers (Count: 30) > 4. Other supports are still to come.... > > Hoping to get some support, > > Best Regards, > > Tushar. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ahsan.jnl at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 08:00:20 2008 From: ahsan.jnl at gmail.com (Ahsan) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:00:20 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] thinking about the mentor program In-Reply-To: References: <49d06cc40807092209r2519c731g18bbbc381060a2a9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d06cc40807100100o2fbebc23vd5047c561604d20a@mail.gmail.com> Dear Tushar, Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, I havent noticed your thread. To be realistic, most of the students here dont have any passport and it will be a bit difficult for them to go to Nepal in August. (Our term begins on the 26th instant). Nevertheless I will talk with my friends and let you know. Thanks and have a nice time. -- Md. Ahsanur Rashid, Undergraduate Student, Level-4, Term-1, Department of Computer Science and Engineering (CSE), Bangladesh University of Engineering & Technology (BUET), Dhaka-1000, Bangladesh. Tel - (+88) 01715621323 Web: http://introspection.me.uk/ 2008/7/10 Tushar Neupaney : > Dear Ahsan, > > Why don't you come to our program in Dharan, Nepal. We are organizing a > workshop on August second week. Maybe you have seen my thread. > > This will be a great opportunity for both of us. There is no registration > charge and lodging is something I can manage(But let me know how many are > interested first). You can come by bus (We don't pay any transport charges, > sorry). It does not take you more than 3000 Indian Currency each for both > way travel. > > I can provide you itinerary and other details if you and your friend are > interested. > > Tushar. > > On 10/07/2008, Ahsan wrote: > >> Dear fellow ambassadors, >> >> Here in Bangladesh, i think many students from my univ specially, will >> volunteer to work in FEDORA... If only some mentoring system was there... >> some kind of tutorial and read mes on how to start and some mentors to >> oversee/suggest the interested persons .... >> >> Hoping to get some positive answers :) >> >> -- >> Md. 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URL: From tushar.neupaney at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 12:16:08 2008 From: tushar.neupaney at gmail.com (Tushar Neupaney) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:01:08 +0545 Subject: [Ambassadors] Workshop about Linux in Dharan, Nepal -- Help! wanted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi folks, I got to manage a projector, big hall and some presenters too. We have 4 of them coming from Kathmandu. They are involved in OLPC and also some are from Ubuntu LOCO team. Anyone Fedora team are warmly welcome. Folks from SAARC region please take this as a great oppertunity. This event can help us develop powerful Linux community in South-Asia. I can manage the followings for anyone interested: -- Stay and Fooding For transport my budget is really less. I cannot pay sorry. But if someone is really interested I can suggest travel plans that will help them. Wishes, Tushar. On 10/07/2008, Saahil Hakimuddin wrote: > > hello tushar, > as for the limitation in the number of computer, i think one of our friends > has already suggested to get a white screen projector and guide through the > installation process and put on all the presentations via that projector. > the most important thing to remember is to get someone who can speak very > confidently and informatively about the powers of open source computing and > contrasts proprietory softwares and open source ones. i remember, during the > introductory meet of the Linux User Group in our institute, the speaker got > a video downloaded from youtube which showed the graphics superiority of > compiz fusion and beryl to those used in windows vista as well as MAC OS > Leopard. doing that is important because the main reason cited by the non > users of open source for not switching is that the UI of linux OSs is not > very appealing and user friendly to them. clearing that myth is very > important. further u can guide the participants throught the installation > process, thereby also introducing them to the fact that even installation of > one of the linux OSs is very simple and straightforward. have fun and happy > computing...!! > all the best > saahil > > 2008/7/10 Tushar Neupaney : > >> Dear ambassadors, >> >> I am conducting a three day workshop in BPKIHS, Dharan, this is a medical >> university and I hope that at least a 1000 people will attend. >> >> To make this opportunity an event of a lifetime and utilize it to motive >> many to use Linux is my prime goal. >> >> Can anyone contribute to the materials that are needed to be discussed in >> the workshop. >> The things that should not be missed and anything special that can be done >> economically and easily to motive people. >> >> The tentative date of starting is August 20. 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URL: From oxygenforu88 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 10 14:31:45 2008 From: oxygenforu88 at yahoo.com (Sarbartha Sengupta) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] thinking about the mentor program In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <386758.76163.qm@web90302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> susmit, I am sarbartha from RCCIIT Beliaghata, Kolkata. My friend Dipanjan is also ambassador of fedora. As you know he and me approached to our college principle about this mentro programme. Our principle is quie interested to allow our student for this kind of project. But he wants a offitial mail from any fedora member except us (as we r student of this college) so u please send a mail for this project to anirban.mukharjee at rcciit.in and pls send a carbon copy of that mail to us at oxygenforu88 at yahoo.com and chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com thus we can approach again after sending your mail. ? Thanks a lot, Sarbartha --- On Thu, 7/10/08, susmit shannigrahi wrote: From: susmit shannigrahi Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] thinking about the mentor program To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 11:51 AM 2008/7/10 Ahsan : > Dear fellow ambassadors, > > Here in Bangladesh, i think many students from my univ specially, will > volunteer to work in FEDORA... If only some mentoring system was there... > some kind of tutorial and read mes on how to start and some mentors to > oversee/suggest the interested persons .... > > Hoping to get some positive answers :) We are working exactly on this right now. Hope to send the first draft by today. For more info please refer to https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-June/msg00253.html and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora-Student_Mentor_Programme -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wonderer4711 at gmx.de Thu Jul 10 14:33:48 2008 From: wonderer4711 at gmx.de (wonderer) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:33:48 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] german groups in lokalisten.de and wer-kennt-wen.de Message-ID: <48761DCC.8000104@gmx.de> Hy together, there are two new fedora-groups I have build in two I think major social-network groups - www.lokalisten.de - www.wer-kennt-wen.de To join the group in wer-kennt-wen you simply follow this Link: http://www.wer-kennt-wen.de/club_qtb74tv6_Fedora.html In lokalisten.de you can search for "Fedora" in the groups. maybe we see us soon there ... P.S.: Yes, the Logo is the original from the fedoraproject Site and I did not know why the colors seems to be a bit shifted. P.S.S.: Maybe someone can tell me if there is another Place maybe in the wiki where can the links be written down for upcoming Interrested Users... --- in german / deutsch --- Hallo zusammen, es gibt nun auch entsprechende fedora-gruppen in zwei der grossen deutschen social-networks, n?mlich bei - www.lokalisten.de - www.wer-kennt-wen.de Um bei wer-kennt-wen der Gruppe beizutreten muss man lediglich dem Link http://www.wer-kennt-wen.de/club_qtb74tv6_Fedora.html folgen. In lokalisten.de sucht man einfach nach "fedora" in den Gruppen. Vielleicht sehen wir uns ja auch bald da. sincerly Henrik From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 14:56:28 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:26:28 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] thinking about the mentor program In-Reply-To: <386758.76163.qm@web90302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <386758.76163.qm@web90302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 2008/7/10 Sarbartha Sengupta : > susmit, > > I am sarbartha from RCCIIT Beliaghata, Kolkata. My friend Dipanjan is also > ambassador of fedora. As you know he and me approached to our college > principle about this mentro programme. > > Our principle is quie interested to allow our student for this kind of > project. But he wants a offitial mail from any fedora member except us (as > we r student of this college) so u please > > send a mail for this project to anirban.mukharjee at rcciit.in and pls send a > carbon copy of that mail to us at oxygenforu88 at yahoo.com and > chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com thus we can approach again after sending your > mail. Bro, wait a bit, I am preparing the draft. As soon as it is completed, I shall mail you. Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Jul 10 17:23:32 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:23:32 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Budget September 1 - November 30 Message-ID: Hi Ambassadors, SHORT VERSION OF ANNOUNCEMENT: If you are organizing an event that takes place in September, October, or November, and you want budget from FAMSCo, make sure your event is on the FedoraEvents page by August 1. LONG VERSION OF ANNOUNCEMENT: We've had a great first half of 2008, and it's time for us to all start thinking about the events that are coming up during Q3, which in Red Hat's timeframe is September 1 - November 30. As you recall, the process that FAMSCo uses for allocating budget for events is as follows: One month before the start of the quarter, all events that are (a) listed on the FedoraEvents page and (b) have a specific owner on the FedoraEvents page are allocated budget based on the funds available for that quarter. Anything not on the FedoraEvents page in time will have to be considered separately by FAMSCo for budget. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents So, that means anyone who is planning an event for September, October, or November needs to get their event on the FedoraEvents page, and have a sub-page for organization (if necessary) set up by August 1, which is about 3 weeks from now. My thanks to everyone who already has their events on there. We're going to start the Events budget for next quarter at $12,000 USD, but past experience has shown us that the number will creep up over time. Therefore, starting at $12,000 USD gives FAMSCo some "buffer space" for unexpected things that come up. Please note that FUDCon Brno 2008 has its own separate budget, and funding that event will not come out of FAMSCo's budget. In addition to thoe events that FAMSCo funds, FAMSCo also will continue to set aside money to specifically support local regions in things like creating swag and producing media. Thanks for your time and attention. Keep up the great job representing Fedora! --Max From tatadbb at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 19:07:15 2008 From: tatadbb at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:37:15 +1930 Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Budget September 1 - November 30 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <27a6293b0807101207u21c21e69v41c0816e63388154@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/11 Max Spevack : > Hi Ambassadors, > > SHORT VERSION OF ANNOUNCEMENT: > > If you are organizing an event that takes place in September, October, or > November, and you want budget from FAMSCo, make sure your event is on the > FedoraEvents page by August 1. > > LONG VERSION OF ANNOUNCEMENT: > > We've had a great first half of 2008, and it's time for us to all start > thinking about the events that are coming up during Q3, which in Red Hat's > timeframe is September 1 - November 30. > > As you recall, the process that FAMSCo uses for allocating budget for > events is as follows: > > One month before the start of the quarter, all events that are (a) listed > on the FedoraEvents page and (b) have a specific owner on the FedoraEvents > page are allocated budget based on the funds available for that quarter. > Anything not on the FedoraEvents page in time will have to be considered > separately by FAMSCo for budget. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > > So, that means anyone who is planning an event for September, October, or > November needs to get their event on the FedoraEvents page, and have a > sub-page for organization (if necessary) set up by August 1, which is about > 3 weeks from now. My thanks to everyone who already has their events on > there. > > We're going to start the Events budget for next quarter at $12,000 USD, but > past experience has shown us that the number will creep up over time. > Therefore, starting at $12,000 USD gives FAMSCo some "buffer space" for > unexpected things that come up. > > Please note that FUDCon Brno 2008 has its own separate budget, and funding > that event will not come out of FAMSCo's budget. > > In addition to thoe events that FAMSCo funds, FAMSCo also will continue to > set aside money to specifically support local regions in things like > creating swag and producing media. > > Thanks for your time and attention. Keep up the great job representing > Fedora! > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > hi! I've add a new event. Everyone can follow it trough here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LatinuxExpo/LatinuxExpo2008 go go, fedora go -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Jul 10 20:32:09 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:32:09 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Budget September 1 - November 30 In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0807101207u21c21e69v41c0816e63388154@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0807101207u21c21e69v41c0816e63388154@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Mar?a Leandro wrote: > I've add a new event. Everyone can follow it trough here > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LatinuxExpo/LatinuxExpo2008 Awesome! What kind of resources do you think you'll need to be successful? --Max From tatadbb at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 21:33:54 2008 From: tatadbb at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:03:54 +1930 Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Budget September 1 - November 30 In-Reply-To: References: <27a6293b0807101207u21c21e69v41c0816e63388154@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <27a6293b0807101433q75ef5dd2t4d94cfb32a2d3e87@mail.gmail.com> I can talk as a Fedora ambassador and also as an organization member: As an Ambassador I'm trying to accept 4 local ambassadors as Conferencist, but I'll like to bring some international ambassador as well. It could be great to have some T-shirts (we have some that we made by our own; but they have more than 2 years old now.. and only have 5 of them; now we are more than 15 members). Aditional, I don't really know if this could be possible; but can be a cool thing that our conferencist could give some gifts at the end of their conferences (I'll be one of them)... something like a T-shirt, cd's, stickers... a penguin... lol; really don't know; but "something" could be great. This Expo & Conferes is International; people from Puerto Rico, Rep?blica Dominicana, Panam?, Colombia, Brasil, Mexico and others are going to attend as conferencist and as general public. I have to be honest with one thing... Venezuela is going trough an Ubuntu/Debian Colapse, and people is starting to use more fedora in pro of the new AND stable software that our distro can offer... I'll like to help that with some "high level" conferencist from fedora. Do you know who can come?... maybe yourself Mr. Spevack... we could enjoy your presence here :D. but I'll vote also for Rodrigo Padula... he has been a mayor help specially for me. /me :$ Well... I'll keep in touch; this is the first big event at Venezuela; it would be something speciall for us. Thanks for all this kind of help :$ 2008/7/11 Max Spevack : > On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Mar?a Leandro wrote: > > I've add a new event. Everyone can follow it trough here >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LatinuxExpo/LatinuxExpo2008 >> > > Awesome! What kind of resources do you think you'll need to be successful? > > --Max > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As being a Fedora Ambassador in Bangladesh, it would've been me to answer first for Ahsanur Rashid. My apologies. Hello Mr. Ahsanur Rashid, I'm very much excited to hear that you (and your friends) want to volunteer for FEDORA (let's say Fedoraproject). I'll love to help you in this regard, I can arrange an event for this at your Canteen or at my office (can be convert into a mid-size gathering facility for 10 person). We have had arranged "Fedora 9 Release Party at FREPD Auditorium near Pallasy Crossing" withing walking distnce from your University. You might haven't notice various Bangladeshi Mailing List. Anyway, please let us know if we can arrange something for you after your term finals. -- Regards mak ----------------------- Hacking is good Hackers human -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As being a Fedora Ambassador in Bangladesh, it would've been me to answer first for Ahsanur Rashid. My apologies. Hello Mr. Ahsanur Rashid, I'm very much excited to hear that you (and your friends) want to volunteer for FEDORA (let's say Fedoraproject). I'll love to help you in this regard, I can arrange an event for this at your Canteen or at my office (can be convert into a mid-size gathering facility for 10 person). We have had arranged "Fedora 9 Release Party at FREPD Auditorium near Pallasy Crossing" withing walking distnce from your University. You might haven't notice various Bangladeshi Mailing List. Anyway, please let us know if we can arrange something for you after your term finals. -- Regards mak ----------------------- Hacking is good Hackers human -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ahsan.jnl at gmail.com Fri Jul 11 16:22:44 2008 From: ahsan.jnl at gmail.com (Ahsan) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:22:44 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] thinking about the mentor program In-Reply-To: References: <49d06cc40807092209r2519c731g18bbbc381060a2a9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d06cc40807110922m162c73c6g4977b1c5893cc302@mail.gmail.com> Dear MAK, Thanks for your mail. I meant the class of our next term start from 26th instant Yes, I didnt miss the news of your party..but due to exams i couldnt be there. Since we are cse students, the best thing that can be done is arranging some workshop or the like on getting started on the fedora project. Say, things like how to code for fedora...and other technical know-hows.. Please let me know if anything can be done! Thanks and have a nice time. -- Md. Ahsanur Rashid, Undergraduate Student, Level-4, Term-1, Department of Computer Science and Engineering (CSE), Bangladesh University of Engineering & Technology (BUET), Dhaka-1000, Bangladesh. Tel - (+88) 01715621323 Web: http://introspection.me.uk/ 2008/7/11 mak : > 2008/7/10 Ahsan : > >> Dear fellow ambassadors, >> >> Here in Bangladesh, i think many students from my univ specially, will >> volunteer to work in FEDORA... If only some mentoring system was there... >> some kind of tutorial and read mes on how to start and some mentors to >> oversee/suggest the interested persons .... >> >> Hoping to get some positive answers :) >> > > I'm extremely sorry, I missed this thread. We do have plenty of traffic in > Fedora-Ambassador list. That's why I use to check mails under > Fedora-Ambassador label (in my Gmail) once in a day or two. > > As being a Fedora Ambassador in Bangladesh, it would've been me to answer > first for Ahsanur Rashid. My apologies. > > Hello Mr. Ahsanur Rashid, > I'm very much excited to hear that you (and your friends) want to volunteer > for FEDORA (let's say Fedoraproject). I'll love to help you in this regard, > I can arrange an event for this at your Canteen or at my office (can be > convert into a mid-size gathering facility for 10 person). > > We have had arranged "Fedora 9 Release Party at FREPD Auditorium near > Pallasy Crossing" withing walking distnce from your University. You might > haven't notice various Bangladeshi Mailing List. > > Anyway, please let us know if we can arrange something for you after your > term finals. > > -- > Regards > mak > ----------------------- > Hacking is good > Hackers human > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hope I'll give all the answer you need Best regards Francesco Ugolini From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Mon Jul 14 13:44:11 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:44:11 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] thinking about the mentor program In-Reply-To: <49d06cc40807092209r2519c731g18bbbc381060a2a9@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d06cc40807092209r2519c731g18bbbc381060a2a9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/7/10 Ahsan : > Dear fellow ambassadors, > > Here in Bangladesh, i think many students from my univ specially, will > volunteer to work in FEDORA... If only some mentoring system was there... > some kind of tutorial and read mes on how to start and some mentors to > oversee/suggest the interested persons .... > > Hoping to get some positive answers :) > -- > Md. Ahsanur Rashid, > > Undergraduate Student, > Level-4, Term-1, > Department of Computer Science and Engineering (CSE), > Bangladesh University of Engineering & Technology (BUET), > Dhaka-1000, Bangladesh. > Tel - (+88) 01715621323 > > Web: http://introspection.me.uk/ > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Thank you for this mail. In the past we tried with a global mentor program but it didn't have the success we wanted. What you ask, and all the replies I read in this thread, underline the importance of a local Mentor system. FAmSCo, in this way, is listening all the opinion that comes around the world and it's available to be a point of reference in the process of the creation of a Local mentor program. What Susmit (the links he gave are the right ones) said are good news, and in the past months he and the APAC community started a constructive discussion around localization. FAmSCo is here to hear you request and give a helpfull hand. If you have specific requests/questions/proposal about this issue, fell free to write here (in this list) or contact FAmSCo, it's important your opinion and your actions to help it working concretely for you. Regards Francesco Ugolini From ahsan.jnl at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 14:19:11 2008 From: ahsan.jnl at gmail.com (Ahsan) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:19:11 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] thinking about the mentor program In-Reply-To: References: <49d06cc40807092209r2519c731g18bbbc381060a2a9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d06cc40807140719p7afc9080u8d84ce88651b7cb9@mail.gmail.com> hi..thanks for the mail... i think you should also consider an academic program as well Students will be able to work on FEDORA project as pert of their term project ! also, internship maybe iontroduced with certificates given, studetns appreciate certificates. a effective region based mentoring system might be started ...and then we can move on to a local mentoring system. the important thing is, the mentoring system needs to be implemented anew asap. this way more students can take part. thanks and have a nice time. -- Md. Ahsanur Rashid, Undergraduate Student, Level-4, Term-1, Department of Computer Science and Engineering (CSE), Bangladesh University of Engineering & Technology (BUET), Dhaka-1000, Bangladesh. Tel - (+88) 01715621323 Web: http://introspection.me.uk/ On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Francesco Ugolini < fugolini at fedoraproject.org> wrote: > 2008/7/10 Ahsan : > > Dear fellow ambassadors, > > > > Here in Bangladesh, i think many students from my univ specially, will > > volunteer to work in FEDORA... If only some mentoring system was there... > > some kind of tutorial and read mes on how to start and some mentors to > > oversee/suggest the interested persons .... > > > > Hoping to get some positive answers :) > > -- > > Md. Ahsanur Rashid, > > > > Undergraduate Student, > > Level-4, Term-1, > > Department of Computer Science and Engineering (CSE), > > Bangladesh University of Engineering & Technology (BUET), > > Dhaka-1000, Bangladesh. > > Tel - (+88) 01715621323 > > > > Web: http://introspection.me.uk/ > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > Thank you for this mail. > > In the past we tried with a global mentor program but it didn't have > the success we wanted. > > What you ask, and all the replies I read in this thread, underline the > importance of a local Mentor system. > > FAmSCo, in this way, is listening all the opinion that comes around > the world and it's available to be a point of reference in the process > of the creation of a Local mentor program. > > What Susmit (the links he gave are the right ones) said are good news, > and in the past months he and the APAC community started a > constructive discussion around localization. > > FAmSCo is here to hear you request and give a helpfull hand. If you > have specific requests/questions/proposal about this issue, fell free > to write here (in this list) or contact FAmSCo, it's important your > opinion and your actions to help it working concretely for you. > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Jul 14 20:00:51 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:00:51 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] fudcon brno meeting -- tue jul 15 @ 13:00 UTC Message-ID: Hi all, We will have a planning and organizational meeting for FUDCon Brno on Tuesday, July 15th, at 13:00 UTC, in #fedora-meeting. (That's 15:00 CEST). The meeting is open to anyone who wants to attend, help organize, or just know more about this event. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConBrno2008 --Max From kanarip at kanarip.com Mon Jul 14 20:18:28 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:18:28 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] fudcon brno meeting -- tue jul 15 @ 13:00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <487BB494.2040008@kanarip.com> Max Spevack wrote: > Hi all, > > We will have a planning and organizational meeting for FUDCon Brno on > Tuesday, July 15th, at 13:00 UTC, in #fedora-meeting. (That's 15:00 CEST). > > The meeting is open to anyone who wants to attend, help organize, or > just know more about this event. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConBrno2008 > I'm in another meeting right at that time so there's no chance for me to attend... I would have if I could! Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Jul 14 20:34:52 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:34:52 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] fudcon brno meeting -- tue jul 15 @ 13:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <487BB494.2040008@kanarip.com> References: <487BB494.2040008@kanarip.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > I'm in another meeting right at that time so there's no chance for me > to attend... I would have if I could! We'll have other meetings. This time was chosen because it's when Radek Vok?l, our Main Man In Brno, can make it. :) --Max From red at fedoraproject.org Tue Jul 15 05:32:37 2008 From: red at fedoraproject.org (Sandro "red" Mathys) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:32:37 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] fudcon brno meeting -- tue jul 15 @ 13:00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <487C3675.6080704@fedoraproject.org> I'll be at work at that time, but I'll try to mbe there. Max Spevack wrote: > Hi all, > > We will have a planning and organizational meeting for FUDCon Brno on > Tuesday, July 15th, at 13:00 UTC, in #fedora-meeting. (That's 15:00 CEST). > > The meeting is open to anyone who wants to attend, help organize, or > just know more about this event. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConBrno2008 > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 259 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From fzied at dottn.com Tue Jul 15 13:47:09 2008 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:47:09 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] SFD Event in Tunisia Message-ID: Your excellencies, I write on behalf of the Tunisian ambassadors, Nihed, Chiheb and Wael. We will be celebrating the SFD in Tunisia somewhere next october. we will file our event in the wiki, but we don't have already a fixed date, since the SFD imply many organisms. We will need to finance our preparations (DVDs, Posters, renting ..., badges ....). So, our question is: is it possible to add our event in the wiki, without a "precise" date ? kind regards, Zied. -- Zied Fakhfakh Dot TN - CTO Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis Tunisia T : +216 71 886112 F : +216 71 885499 M : +216 22 535604 W : http://www.dottn.com GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jul 15 13:53:01 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:53:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] SFD Event in Tunisia In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > Your excellencies, > > I write on behalf of the Tunisian ambassadors, Nihed, Chiheb and Wael. > > We will be celebrating the SFD in Tunisia somewhere next october. > > we will file our event in the wiki, but we don't have already a fixed > date, since the SFD imply many organisms. > > We will need to finance our preparations (DVDs, Posters, renting ..., > badges ....). > > So, our question is: is it possible to add our event in the wiki, > without a "precise" date ? Absolutely! Just be sure to fill the dates in when you have them. --g From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jul 15 13:58:23 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Reminder: North American Ambassadors meeting tonight! Message-ID: Hello, North American ambassadors. Please be sure to make tonight's meeting. When: 9pm Eastern US time Where: #fedora-meeting, irc.freenode.net Why: To figure out how ambassadors can have maximum impact in North America. How should we be spending our time? LUG outreach? Government outreach? College recruiting? Burning CDs? A short update on North American events, followed by an open discussion, followed, I hope, by a list of actionable work items. --g From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Jul 15 14:05:20 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:05:20 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] SFD Event in Tunisia In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > Your excellencies, > > I write on behalf of the Tunisian ambassadors, Nihed, Chiheb and Wael. > > We will be celebrating the SFD in Tunisia somewhere next october. > > we will file our event in the wiki, but we don't have already a fixed > date, since the SFD imply many organisms. > > We will need to finance our preparations (DVDs, Posters, renting ..., > badges ....). > > So, our question is: is it possible to add our event in the wiki, > without a "precise" date ? Yes, absolutely. Give whatever information you have now, and add the date later! We will be happy to help you. --Max From chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 16:11:01 2008 From: chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com (Dipanjan Chakraborty) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:41:01 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] thinking about the mentor program In-Reply-To: References: <49d06cc40807092209r2519c731g18bbbc381060a2a9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The case with my college is that they want somebody from Fedora to approach them officially. Susmit is working on that. And I am sure he will come up with a solution soon. No doubt certifications will be an incentive. But are there enough projects for the undergraduate level students? We must work on this point. Dipanjan Chakraborty > Thank you for this mail. > > In the past we tried with a global mentor program but it didn't have > the success we wanted. > > What you ask, and all the replies I read in this thread, underline the > importance of a local Mentor system. > > FAmSCo, in this way, is listening all the opinion that comes around > the world and it's available to be a point of reference in the process > of the creation of a Local mentor program. > > What Susmit (the links he gave are the right ones) said are good news, > and in the past months he and the APAC community started a > constructive discussion around localization. > > FAmSCo is here to hear you request and give a helpfull hand. If you > have specific requests/questions/proposal about this issue, fell free > to write here (in this list) or contact FAmSCo, it's important your > opinion and your actions to help it working concretely for you. > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fab at fedoraproject.org Tue Jul 15 17:57:04 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:57:04 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER: EMEA Ambassador Meeting this Wednesday ! Message-ID: <487CE4F0.1090202@fedoraproject.org> Hi all, This mail is a reminder for the monthly ambassadors meeting for all ambassadors from the EMEA region. Of course all other ambassadors are invited, too. Please add your topic to the agenda at the wiki meeting page [1] before the meeting started. 2008-07-16 / 20:00 UTC (21:00 local time) irc.freenode.net - #fedora-meeting Kind regards, Fabian [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-07-16 -- Fingerprint: 2F6C 930F D3C4 7E38 6AFA 4EB4 E23C D2DD 36A4 397F Fedora always leads and never follows. From ankit.18.govil at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 18:23:24 2008 From: ankit.18.govil at gmail.com (ankit govil) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:23:24 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] thinking about the mentor program In-Reply-To: References: <49d06cc40807092209r2519c731g18bbbc381060a2a9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <322c2fa00807151123g69f9034cl439c7ee80d33ce41@mail.gmail.com> hi friends, I would suggest that in think fedora is never short of project its just how we begin.If we mentor a student a student in college for 2 years and ask him to mentor his mates for later years this way a long lasting chain can be developed. Moreover, certificates is something which every students appreciate as it improves students resume.I think this way it will work in India where students wants to shift to Linux but don't have right guidance to help them out. Moreover ambassdors can conduct some training session in their region to promote fedora. Regards, Ankit Govil 2008/7/15 Dipanjan Chakraborty : > The case with my college is that they want somebody from Fedora to approach > them officially. Susmit is working on that. And I am sure he will come up > with a solution soon. > No doubt certifications will be an incentive. But are there enough projects > for the undergraduate level students? We must work on this point. > > Dipanjan Chakraborty > > >> Thank you for this mail. >> >> In the past we tried with a global mentor program but it didn't have >> the success we wanted. >> >> What you ask, and all the replies I read in this thread, underline the >> importance of a local Mentor system. >> >> FAmSCo, in this way, is listening all the opinion that comes around >> the world and it's available to be a point of reference in the process >> of the creation of a Local mentor program. >> >> What Susmit (the links he gave are the right ones) said are good news, >> and in the past months he and the APAC community started a >> constructive discussion around localization. >> >> FAmSCo is here to hear you request and give a helpfull hand. If you >> have specific requests/questions/proposal about this issue, fell free >> to write here (in this list) or contact FAmSCo, it's important your >> opinion and your actions to help it working concretely for you. >> >> Regards >> >> Francesco Ugolini >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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One instance would be http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/116-Red-Hat,-Seneca-College,-and-Fedora.html List of projects suggested: http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/index.php/Potential_Projects Rahul From chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 21:56:50 2008 From: chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com (Dipanjan Chakraborty) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:26:50 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] thinking about the mentor program In-Reply-To: <487D014F.5000909@fedoraproject.org> References: <49d06cc40807092209r2519c731g18bbbc381060a2a9@mail.gmail.com> <487D014F.5000909@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: I think there has been a misunderstanding. What I meant was: are all projects of the level of undergraduate students? Dipanjan Chakraborty On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 1:28 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Dipanjan Chakraborty wrote: > >> The case with my college is that they want somebody from Fedora to >> approach them officially. Susmit is working on that. And I am sure he will >> come up with a solution soon. >> No doubt certifications will be an incentive. But are there enough >> projects for the undergraduate level students? We must work on this point. >> > > There are tons of projects to do. One instance would be > > > http://blog.chris.tylers.info/index.php?/archives/116-Red-Hat,-Seneca-College,-and-Fedora.html > > List of projects suggested: > > http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/index.php/Potential_Projects > > Rahul > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Jul 15 22:02:19 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:32:19 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] thinking about the mentor program In-Reply-To: References: <49d06cc40807092209r2519c731g18bbbc381060a2a9@mail.gmail.com> <487D014F.5000909@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <487D1E6B.4030901@fedoraproject.org> Dipanjan Chakraborty wrote: > I think there has been a misunderstanding. What I meant was: are all > projects of the level of undergraduate students? That depends on the skill set and interest of the students involved and cannot be generalized. There are projects at various levels and I am sure they can find a few they would be interested in. Rahul From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 01:19:26 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:49:26 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] thinking about the mentor program In-Reply-To: References: <49d06cc40807092209r2519c731g18bbbc381060a2a9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <487D4C9E.3030001@gmail.com> Dipanjan Chakraborty wrote: > The case with my college is that they want somebody from Fedora to > approach them officially. Susmit is working on that. And I am sure he > will come up with a solution soon. By 'officially' if you mean in the same fashion as any software development company in your local area approaches the college, then it might be sometime before we arrive at a process for that. Susmit is still at the initial stages of a discussion around the issue. > No doubt certifications will be an incentive. But are there enough > projects for the undergraduate level students? We must work on this point. We can't work on 'this' point till we arrive at some sort of conclusion as to how much pre-loaded with knowledge the target students are. Have they been doing a variety of thing around OS or applications ? If yes, then they are easily pointed to various projects (rather, I'd argue that in this case they would be the ones coming up with various projects). From whatever my limited comprehension of the education system and colleges is, this isn't the case (in India) in a majority of the colleges in India. On the fedora-india list there is an ongoing discussion about how best to ramp up the skillsets of the potential candidates participating in this program. A large part of that is being inspired by what is happening on #dgplug and its IRC classes. Perhaps you'd like to latch on to that thread. As we stand now, we are trying to roll a program for an audience about whom we don't know much, and barring the 'we'd like official contact' nothing much is known about the authorities who would accept this program. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From herlo1 at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 03:01:52 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:01:52 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador NA meeting minutes Message-ID: Meeting minutes can also be found here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-07-15 18:28 < gregdek> /me looks around. 18:29 -!- gregdek changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Ambassadors North America: Tuesday, July 15th, 9pm Eastern US time 18:55 < gregdek> 7 minutes to meeting time. :) 19:00 < gregdek> 2 minutes to meeting time. 19:02 < gregdek> DING! 19:02 < gregdek> ROLL CALL! 19:02 < lxmaier_home> AlexMaier 19:02 < pcalarco> PascalCalarco 19:03 < inode0> JohnRose 19:03 * gregdek waits a minute or two for stragglers. 19:05 < herlo> herlo 19:05 < gregdek> All right. 19:05 < gregdek> So, we've got four North American ambassadors. Well done. 19:05 < herlo> thanks for holding the meeting later, I really appreciate it :) 19:06 < gregdek> My pleasure. :) 19:06 < gregdek> So let me start with a very blunt first question: 19:06 < gregdek> What purpose does this meeting serve? 19:06 < pcalarco> ! 19:06 < inode0> who called it? :) 19:07 < gregdek> pcalarco: This meeting is too small for the formalities. Speak your mind. :) 19:07 < herlo> I don't think he's asking to actually know... 19:07 < pcalarco> ok :) 19:07 < pcalarco> it seems like we've mostly used the meetings for updates on upcoming cons, media requests and such, from the time I have attended 19:07 < herlo> I think gregdek has an idea where he wants this meeting to go and is giving us an opportunity to drive at it... 19:08 < inode0> I'd like to see something materialize to get some juices flowing in the NA group - it needs an injection to get off life support 19:08 < pcalarco> I think the time could be more constructively used 19:08 * herlo agrees 19:09 < gregdek> OK. 19:09 * gregdek goes into rambling old man mode. Ready? :) 19:09 < herlo> One thing I'd like to see is a way to help ambassadors spread the word a bit more. 19:10 < lxmaier_home> bring it on! 19:10 < herlo> yep 19:10 < pcalarco> sure :) 19:10 < ke4qqq> sure 19:10 < gregdek> So when we created the ambassadors group, what, going on three years ago, Alex? 19:11 < lxmaier_home> something like that 19:11 < gregdek> The goal was straightforward and ambitious: 19:11 < gregdek> To have a significant Fedora presence at every event in the world. 19:11 < gregdek> With "event" being loosely defined. 19:11 < gregdek> From my perspective, that is still a worthwhile goal. 19:12 < gregdek> And I think we've come a long way towards that goal. 19:12 < gregdek> I think it's important to have a fairly focused goal, because that increases the chance of actually achieving it. 19:12 < gregdek> So, ladies and gentlemen, for North America -- is that still the correct goal? 19:13 < gregdek> I open the floor. 19:13 * inode0 doesn't really think so 19:13 < inode0> in NA redhat covers so many conferences ambassadors might be more productive spreading the word more regionally 19:14 < inode0> local FUGs, university talks, etc. 19:14 < pcalarco> +1 19:14 < lxmaier_home> a mission statement, a goal, needs to be clear and actionable. our original goal was a bit broad but very actionable. you see an "event" and so you make sure you represent fedora there. 19:14 < lxmaier_home> event=local LUG, school science fair, you name it 19:15 < lxmaier_home> so in a way, inode0 we agree on this one 19:15 < herlo> the biggest problem with that goal is enabling ambassadors quickly and easily. 19:15 < lxmaier_home> herlo: do you mean an infrastructure to enable ambassadors? 19:15 < herlo> no 19:15 < herlo> hold on, more to say 19:15 < ke4qqq> Having been around and observing most of those years, I think EMEA ambassadors do a better job than NA does. I don't know why, perhaps just perception. I'd also like to see significant presence more firmly defined. I agree with herlo - most events I have been in I haven't had months of planning, and tend to be smaller - and it's a difficult job getting the resources on hand that fast. 19:16 < herlo> well, it could be some infrastructure, but more like a standard procedure with tools at every turn. I think a lot about how Ubuntu succeeds in marketing its brand 19:16 < inode0> who represents Fedora at Linux World? do ambassadors or does Red Hat? 19:16 < herlo> while our brand is different, I find that we have a lot of the common goals. Get people to use Fedora 19:17 < inode0> I think this is where EMEA and NA are just different because of Red Hat's presence 19:17 < herlo> and to do that, we need to have a way of providing people a quick easy experience 19:17 < herlo> Every time I want to share that word with people, I burn cds, but sometimes I find them to be a little less than professional 19:17 < lxmaier_home> inode0: red hat in emea hardly goes to local/regional events -- i am not even sure they were at linuxTag 19:17 < herlo> so I usually spend a good bit of time making labels and preparing sleeves, etc among other things 19:18 < herlo> going to a LUG meeting, I can get a forum, but I really need a topic 19:18 < gregdek> How much of the difference between NA events and the rest of the world has to do with the relative maturity of Linux is NA? 19:18 < lxmaier_home> herlo: that's a good idea I think i am hearing: a talk topic repo? 19:18 < herlo> some of those are easy, others are hard, but promoting fedora should be based upon simplistic, measureable ways to get in front of as many people as we can... 19:18 < herlo> lxmaier_home: hey... 19:18 < ke4qqq> Greg, could be - I think Alex has a point - the EMEA Ambassadors seem pretty self-sufficient, while we heavily rely on RH. 19:19 < herlo> lxmaier_home: sounds good 19:19 < gregdek> Fair point. 19:19 < ke4qqq> lxmaier_home: didn't we used to have some 'canned' presentations that Rahul and Chitlesh worked up, around FC5 or 6? 19:19 < gregdek> The self-sufficiency of EMEA ambassadors seems to empower them, to drive them to *want* to do more. 19:19 < ke4qqq> exactly! 19:19 < gregdek> Since they own the Fedora brand in Europe. 19:20 < ke4qqq> while we seem to be waiting for some sanction 19:20 < lxmaier_home> what i meant earlier when i said "infrastructure" was basically that: a set of procedures and some content to enable self-sufficient ambassadors to do whatever they think needs to be done 19:20 < herlo> a talk topic repo is good, but I think there are more things we can do 19:20 < herlo> lxmaier_home: I saw that after you mentioned it, I should have been less quick to react 19:20 < pcalarco> EventBox, for example 19:20 < lxmaier_home> ke4qqq: yeah, we did. I am certain they're still on the wiki 19:21 < ke4qqq> we talked about 'ambassador kits' (and I am sorry to beat a dead horse, but I remember that from back when you first sent emails to LUGs, Greg. Why aren't we sending out a 'kit' at every release to ambassadors with pressed CD/DVDs, etc. 19:21 < herlo> event boxes seem to be hard to build, but an event kit, I could get behind. Something simple... 19:22 < lxmaier_home> ke4qqq: money? and also lack of volunteers to run the logistict 19:22 < pcalarco> agreed 19:22 < herlo> yeah, stickers, hats, etc... 19:22 < lxmaier_home> not to say that we *shouldn't* try to do that 19:22 < lxmaier_home> just stating what i perceive to be the reason why we didn't 19:22 < inode0> well, I'd like to toss out a suggestion 19:23 < gregdek> Shoot. 19:23 < ke4qqq> lxmaier_home: I'd agree - but RHNA is already sending out the stuff - I have asked Greg and Max and FAMSCO to send stuff for events and it gets sent to me every time. It seems like we waste more time going through the appropriations process than anything else. 19:23 < inode0> rather than events per se how about shifting the focus to talks given, something quantifiable 19:24 * herlo actually thinks that it'd be nice just to *have* the stuff on hand. No event necessary 19:24 < inode0> shoot for a goal of X talks given wherever by NA ambassadors in support of F10 19:24 < lxmaier_home> ke4qqq: i have been out of the loop for a while, so i don't know how cumbersome the current approval process is. 19:24 < ke4qqq> herlo: exactly. 19:24 < herlo> maybe justification, but why an event? 19:24 < inode0> try to beat that for F11 19:24 < ke4qqq> lxmaier_home: well most people circumvent the process now, and call someone at RH who fedexes stuff - at least that's my perception from talking with others 19:24 < lxmaier_home> i think we are talking about hte same thing, just disagreeing about semantics of the word "event" 19:25 < gregdek> The current approval process for NA is incredibly vague. 19:25 < ke4qqq> but the process isn't much different than when you were actively involved, Alex. 19:25 < lxmaier_home> i would say event is anything where more than one person is present and an ambassador speaks about fedora 19:25 < herlo> so lets put approval process on a list and start hammering it out 19:25 < gregdek> So here's the thing... 19:26 < gregdek> ...I don't think it's as simple as an approval process for how RH gets schwag to NA ambassadors. 19:26 < gregdek> I think it's a broader question of who *owns* NA ambassadors. 19:26 < ke4qqq> so why not at every Fedora release offer people with a current CLA and ambassadors membership the opportunity to 'order' a kit with some Fedora art and CDs and maybe some stickers. 19:26 < herlo> ke4qqq: I think we're getting to that now 19:26 < lxmaier_home> i hoped back in my day that the approval process will go like this: 0. ambassador wants to do something like a LUG talk 1. ambassador wants to give out schwag 2. ambassador says to the famsco why s/he needs the money/schwag 3. ambassador gets the schwag 19:27 < herlo> lxmaier_home: I like it 19:27 < herlo> gregdek: what do you mean *owns* NA Ambassadors? 19:27 < herlo> is that an internal RH thing? 19:27 < gregdek> It is precisely *not* an internal RH thing. 19:28 < lxmaier_home> so the "request form" and all the rules were created back then to clarify the process, not to complicate it. 19:28 < gregdek> At least, it *should not* be. 19:28 * herlo agrees 19:28 < ke4qqq> gregdek: based on how things operate - I'd say RH owns NA Ambassadors - we are too dependent on them. Famsco to a lesser degree - but really we see precious little of them. 19:28 < gregdek> Nope. 19:28 < gregdek> We must break that dependency. 19:28 < gregdek> Personally, I think: 19:29 < gregdek> a. Ambassadors are more invested when they can operate autonomously, and RH should give funding, but *not* necessarily schwag; 19:29 < lxmaier_home> +1 19:29 < ke4qqq> +1 19:29 < gregdek> b. FAMSCO is a broken concept that does not take regional needs into account. 19:29 < herlo> +1 on b 19:29 < gregdek> As the founder of FAMSCO, I humbly apologize for it. 19:29 < gregdek> Well, perhaps it was useful for its time, but as ambassadors around the world get up and run, it's outliving its usefulness. 19:29 < ke4qqq> It was useful in the early days - but I think the growth has made it obsolete 19:29 < herlo> I need to ask a simple question about a. To whom does RH give the funding? 19:30 < gregdek> Good question. 19:30 < gregdek> In EMEA, we give it to various folks to help make things happen. 19:30 < herlo> is it direct to NA ambassadors? Or to FAMSCo or some such 19:30 < herlo> because to be honest, I personally don't want money, I want the swag 19:30 < gregdek> In LATAM, we give almost all of it to Rodrigo Padula da Oliveira in Brazil, and he makes things happen. 19:30 < herlo> so I can give it out to those who show interest 19:30 < gregdek> That makes us the gate for the schwag. 19:31 < herlo> us == FAMSco? 19:31 < gregdek> That means that you get one type of t-shirt, one type of hat, one type of sticker. 19:31 < gregdek> us == RH. 19:31 < herlo> k 19:31 < ke4qqq> There are some efficiencies because of that - RH has economies of scale. 19:31 < gregdek> And the EMEA ambassadors make LOGO BATHROBES. 19:31 < gregdek> That may be true. 19:31 < herlo> so do these folks in EMEA and LATAM manage that for the other Ambassadors? 19:31 < herlo> that == Money 19:32 < gregdek> We disburse funds in some cases. 19:32 < gregdek> Community folks raise some limited cash in some cases. 19:32 < herlo> right, and I've seen that be the case in some areas in NA too 19:33 < lxmaier_home> just think about shipping/handling and inventory overhead 19:33 < ke4qqq> Unfortunately our dependence has bred some ignorance - for instance does anyone (outside of RH) know how many Fedora CDs we burn per release? If the community were to start we'd flounder a bit - not that it's a bad thing, but it's a rough learning curve. 19:33 < lxmaier_home> i know it is easier to ask for "30 stickers and 20 t-shirts please" 19:33 < herlo> I'm willing to get reimbursed in some *certain* situations, but overall, I think its better to have it in one place 19:33 < gregdek> I'm not saying "NO SCHWAG EVER". 19:33 < gregdek> But I am saying that a reliance on RH leads to a lot of same old same old. 19:34 < lxmaier_home> having an inventory to manage -- and to ship from raleigh nc to say california is not the most efficient way to do things 19:34 < inode0> how many NA ambassadors asked for swag last year? 19:34 < herlo> I'd like to go back to the Ubuntu model for comparison. They use a company called shipit to send out CDs to their Loco Leaders, this might be feasible for that and other things?? 19:34 < ke4qqq> and how many obtained it through back RH channels 19:34 < gregdek> Everyone emailed Max or Paul or me. 19:34 < gregdek> Is that back channel? Not really. 19:35 < ke4qqq> it's not the stated process. 19:35 < gregdek> Nope. But it's the degenerative case for that process. 19:35 < herlo> the stated process doesn't even work right now. It says you must fill out a form that isn't available atm 19:35 < gregdek> And most people, once they get to know that, sidestep the process. 19:35 < gregdek> Right. :) 19:35 < gregdek> And why is this? 19:35 < lxmaier_home> i was looking on the wiki for the rules for resource request and could not find them 19:35 < gregdek> IMHO, because there's no group to steward the process in NA. 19:36 < herlo> I have no problems following the process actually. Just wonder who controls that and why its not online much of the time :( 19:36 < herlo> lxmaier_home: I will find it for you, hold on 19:36 < herlo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors#Resources 19:36 < lxmaier_home> i found the broken stuff--not the stuff i remember posting 18 months ago 19:36 < herlo> oh, right, okay 19:37 < ke4qqq> so how do we (as a community) take ownership? 19:37 < inode0> I ask because I'm interested in engaging the existing ambassadors to be more involved and I don't think swag is the problem 19:37 < gregdek> So here's the thing. 19:37 < lxmaier_home> but i like the point gregdek is making: all other regions have a regional ambassadors organization. NA doesn't 19:37 < gregdek> The most functional ambassadors groups in the world -- EMEA and LATAM -- all *ignore* these pages. 19:37 < lxmaier_home> that would explain why it's not as vibrant as the others. 19:38 < gregdek> They have created their own structures, because our structure was not even represented in their language! 19:38 < gregdek> So as a result, they built their own house to their standards. 19:38 < gregdek> And those house are *awesome*. 19:38 < gregdek> The people who showed up tonight... 19:38 < gregdek> ...are the people who give a shit. Plain and simple. 19:38 < herlo> agreed 19:38 < gregdek> You are the leaders, by default. 19:39 < gregdek> And my job is to help you figure out what *you* want to do... 19:39 < gregdek> ...and give you resources where I can... 19:39 < gregdek> ...and get the hell out of your way. 19:39 < gregdek> If the wiki sucks, build your own process, starting now. 19:40 < gregdek> I can give you my entire inventory of NA schwag, and in the future, I can give you a budget. 19:40 < gregdek> And you use it *any way you see fit*. 19:40 < lxmaier_home> honestly, i think i could manage the schwag/money distribution 19:41 < lxmaier_home> if we all agree on the guidelines (e.g. as i stated above or whatever) i can volunteer to do the backend for the resources 19:41 < ke4qqq> Greg - I like decentralizing the swag stuff - it's symbolic of tranfer of authority, but I think there is more to it than that. I don't know a solution though. 19:41 < gregdek> lxmaier_home: Oh, I'm sure you could. You have before. 19:41 < gregdek> ke4qqq: I'll tell you what. We can get together every couple of weeks and talk it out until we *do* know. 19:42 < gregdek> But none of this "hmm, I forgot the meeting" stuff. That is an absolute soul killer. 19:42 < lxmaier_home> i do strongly lean towards the "you want to run an event, you get the money payPaled to you and off you go!" 19:42 * herlo agrees that putting regional people in charge might work, but we still need a central repository of information 19:42 < gregdek> One sec... 19:42 * gregdek rummages around... 19:42 < lxmaier_home> so we get crazy collectable schwag like EMEA does 19:43 < lxmaier_home> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Reimbursement just found the old document 19:43 < gregdek> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral 19:43 < herlo> I have some of that already printed 19:43 < ke4qqq> per state or per region? Greg - the meetings used to be very alive - but we had a ton of authority. I remember arguing with you about 2-sided vs. 1-sided DVDs in the past as that was within our purview. 19:44 < ke4qqq> I don't know how that bled out- but I agree the group here cares - and meeting attendance is a must have. 19:44 < lxmaier_home> if we start doing things (and making shit happen) they'll come back 19:45 < gregdek> Yep. 19:45 < lxmaier_home> and then some 19:45 < ke4qqq> lxmaier_home: agreed 19:45 < lxmaier_home> in my admittedly simple mind the key to success is to be lean and mean 19:46 < lxmaier_home> did you guys know (if you don't work at RH) that RH does not provide its employees with office supplies? 19:46 < ke4qqq> Alright - unless you are taking it Greg (or someone else), I'll volunteer to handle the Southeast. 19:46 < herlo> I'm a linux instructor so I tend to have simple needs, CDs or DVDs do me just fine 19:46 < ke4qqq> lxmaier_home: no - wow thats shocking - do you work out of Raleigh? or home? 19:46 < lxmaier_home> you want a pencil, a marker, you go online and order it and then get reimbursed -- and that's how i see the ambassadors work 19:46 < lxmaier_home> raleigh, HQ 19:47 < ke4qqq> lxmaier_home: that doesn't scale well - if you need to order 10,000 CDs and then get reimbursed thats a painful reimbursement scheme. 19:47 * gregdek nods. 19:47 < lxmaier_home> agreed with the 100,000 DVDs 19:47 < gregdek> So this is where the focus becomes very important. 19:47 < ke4qqq> and I dont think with Rodrigo that happens 19:47 < lxmaier_home> but not with other stuff like t-shirts 19:47 < gregdek> We front cash to Rodrigo. 19:47 < herlo> lxmaier_home: for us, I could see a quarterly budget request too, which might be paypaled. Question I still have, and maybe this is for next week, but why don't we find some centralized resources and have them do the work for us, drop shipping works... 19:48 < gregdek> herlo: That's fine too. 19:48 < herlo> I think there's something there 19:48 < herlo> gregdek: thanks 19:48 < ke4qqq> herlo: someone has to set it up and manage it - we looked at this at one point and it dropped off the radar 19:48 < lxmaier_home> herlo: yes it kinda works, but kinda does not -- that's why we're here 19:48 < herlo> what does and doesn't work? 19:48 * stickster shows up really late and is so sorry 19:49 < lxmaier_home> if we had someone in raleigh to manage the mass production and drop-shipping then yes this would work 19:49 * gregdek resists the urge to boot stickster. ;) 19:49 < stickster> kickban! 19:49 < gregdek> Here's another thing: we chose a crappy vendor, and we're stuck with them. 19:49 < lxmaier_home> but unfortunately, we dont have a headcount to do this full-time, and more important stuff comes up and the schwag drops off the table 19:49 < ke4qqq> it's more than efficiency - we need the 'authority' thing - we gotta break the 'dependency' We love the RH people - but it's not working. 19:49 < gregdek> I *hate* the RH schwag vendor. 19:49 < herlo> lxmaier_home: why does it have to be at raleigh? 19:50 < gregdek> It doesn't. 19:50 < gregdek> It can be anywhere there's someone to look after it. 19:50 < lxmaier_home> herlo: cause that's where the money is, RH -- that's why i advocate giving money to the regions 19:50 < ke4qqq> if you decentralize you can have a cluster of people available to fill requests - no need to have the ball dropped. 19:50 < herlo> lxmaier_home: sure, but its not my question you are answering 19:50 < lxmaier_home> herlo: in a way, i thought i was :) 19:50 < herlo> you are saying give money to the regions, I'm asking couldn't it be centralized elsewhere? And why does it have to be *managed* ? 19:51 < gregdek> If I trust the people, I don't want to manage them. 19:51 < ke4qqq> you mean RH is tied to BFS - not us. (unless someone has spoken for us) 19:51 < gregdek> I want to give them money and say "go make Teh Magic." 19:51 < lxmaier_home> +1 19:51 < lxmaier_home> give the money (AKA power) to the people 19:51 < gregdek> And if their version of Teh Magic is Centralized Schwag Repo, so be it. 19:51 * herlo thinks that we give an image every six months to some chosen vendor and have them create X number of stuff and ship it to the regional ambassadors. I mean it has to be shipped anyway 19:52 < lxmaier_home> we may lose 10-20% in inefficiency because of lack of scale, but we'll win by having people engaged and empowered 19:52 < herlo> essentially, it could be a local company as well, but one source seems less expensive 19:52 < gregdek> Fact is, the Centralized Schwag Repo that RH is stuck with sucks. And when I try to make schwag, it comes out late, too expensive, and not very original. 19:52 * gregdek thinks. 19:53 < gregdek> Why don't we just work with Karlie Robinson for all this stuff? 19:53 < lxmaier_home> giving money to the regions will make them own what they do, make them engaged, and most importanlty accountable. 19:53 < lxmaier_home> karlie is still around? sure! I like here 19:53 < lxmaier_home> s/here/her 19:53 < herlo> gregdek: okay. So I guess what I am driving at is maybe the same thing lxmaier_home is. I'm happy to be the Rocky Mountain regional ambassador, but I'll need some handholding 19:53 < lxmaier_home> she is very committed 19:53 < gregdek> Hey ian. 19:54 < herlo> karlie is well committed, yes. I think she's very good, especially at helping with the Media project IIRC 19:54 < ke4qqq> yeah and Karlie knowsher way around the media business. 19:54 * herlo has an idea. 19:54 < ianweller> gregdek: yo 19:54 < gregdek> herlo: shoot. 19:55 < herlo> One thing I think about is that we could consider putting in requests for what we need on a 6 month basis, have it done prior to the next release and have it all budgeted. 19:55 < herlo> I can see there might be possibilities where we'd need some *extra* requests, but it might just make it easier if we have a big bag of stuff to last us 6 months 19:55 < ke4qqq> herlo: things are too much in flux for that - only the big shows have a 6 month lead time. 19:56 < gregdek> Well, that's the kind of projection we already do. 19:56 < herlo> it is? 19:56 < lxmaier_home> i might be repeating myself but i'll say it anyway: i believe that if we have RH produce stuff and distribute it, we'llnever wean off the NA ambassaadors to self-sufficiency. if we give the money to the regions instead, the committed ones will step forward and self-select. then the region can manage for themselves, 6-months plans etc. like they see fit. 19:56 < gregdek> We're always guessing to some extent or the other. 19:56 < gregdek> Basically: 19:56 < gregdek> * Fedora comes out. 19:57 < ke4qqq> herlo: lets take that power and control at regional level. no need to set a NA policy I'd think 19:57 < gregdek> * Max orders a ton of DVDs/CDs from BrandFuel. 19:57 < gregdek> * We ship them piecemeal for six months. 19:57 < gregdek> * Lather, rinse, repeat. 19:57 < herlo> gregdek: I'm thinking we should do it *before* the next release comes out. 19:57 < herlo> but I get it 19:57 < herlo> ke4qqq: I agree 19:57 < herlo> that makes sense 19:57 < herlo> sorry to shake the bugs off 19:57 < herlo> but I'm still new to this whole Ambassador business 19:58 < gregdek> Heh. 19:58 < gregdek> It's tricksy. :) 19:58 < gregdek> ke4qqq: Will you be at POSSCON, btw? 19:58 < lxmaier_home> i agree -- install media should be mass-produced and shipped out to regions etc. centrally if the money/resources allow. but if a region decided to use their money to produce more, why not? 19:58 < ke4qqq> gregdek: yes 19:58 < gregdek> ke4qqq: See you there, then. 19:58 < ke4qqq> lxmaier_home: it takes WEEKS after the release before media is available. 19:58 < herlo> lxmaier_home: is that based upon some sort of metric? 19:59 < lxmaier_home> nope, just crappy vendor 19:59 < ke4qqq> and we are on a 6-month release cycle. 19:59 < herlo> lxmaier_home: oh, rossy was asking about the centrally produced media 19:59 < lxmaier_home> so maybe decentralized production on as-needed basis is betteR? 19:59 < gregdek> ke4qqq: I've got to think that Karlie could help with this. 19:59 < herlo> s/rossy/actually/ 19:59 < gregdek> She has financial incentive to do business with us, *and* she believes in the cause. 20:00 < ke4qqq> are we (usign whatever form of 'we' you'd like) locked into Brand Fuel? Yes Karlie could probably turning around much faster. 20:00 < gregdek> Whereas Brandfuel doesn't give a shit about Fedora. 20:00 < gregdek> We are NOT locked into Brandfuel. 20:00 < lxmaier_home> we don't have to use BFuel 20:00 < herlo> yay! 20:00 < gregdek> We stick with them because we're lazy and have other problems to solve. 20:00 < herlo> sounds to me like there's some business ot be got! 20:01 < ke4qqq> Alright - I'll take pinging Karlie on this as an action item - see what she can offer us. Anyone have an idea of the volume? 20:01 < ke4qqq> I noticed you said 'ton' ,but not sure if that is metric or imperial 20:01 * stickster hoping iWolf is watching this. 20:01 < gregdek> We produced about 2500 CDs/DVDs for NA for Fedora 9. 20:01 < gregdek> Is that a good number? A bad number? No idea. We pulled it right out of our ass with what budget we had left. 20:02 < lxmaier_home> that cost us what? 3000? 20:02 < gregdek> But it'll all get used. 20:02 < ke4qqq> sounds really low to me. I have seen 500 handed out at relatively small cons in NA. 20:02 < gregdek> Oh wait... actually, with the discs we went with another local vendor who screwed it all up. 20:02 < gregdek> I don't recall the cost off the top of my head. 20:03 < gregdek> But honestly, I'll tell you what scales: 20:03 < gregdek> We pick a number and give it to you. 20:03 < ke4qqq> We == RH? 20:03 < gregdek> Yes. 20:03 < gregdek> To start, anyway. 20:03 * gregdek wonders whatever happened to Fedora Unity's non-profit... 20:04 < lxmaier_home> stickster: did you get a chance to see the message i sent you earlier today? 20:04 < gregdek> "We have $10k to spend! You tell us what vendors to pay, and how much, and we will pay them!" 20:04 < gregdek> Something like that. 20:04 < stickster> lxmaier_home: Yes, and I believe I replied 20:04 < inode0> gregdek: you sent out a list of things (lug outreach, govt. outreach, campus recruiting, etc.) - will we get to any of that tonight? 20:04 * lxmaier_home looks for stickster's email 20:05 < gregdek> inode0: Good point. 20:05 < stickster> lxmaier_home: iWolf is Jeffrey Tadlock. 20:05 < gregdek> Much of this has still revolved around "events and schwag". 20:05 < herlo> gregdek: I'd like some more CDs DVDs, already out 20:05 < gregdek> Do people have time/inclination to go on a bit longer? 20:05 * herlo does 20:05 < ke4qqq> gregdek: can you give us an idea of how NA money has been spent in the past - let us look at that - not that we want to repeat, but just as a point of reference. 20:05 < ke4qqq> sure 20:05 < gregdek> herlo: Send me a mail. ;) 20:05 < herlo> gregdek: done 20:05 < pcalarco> sure thing 20:05 < gregdek> In NA, we spend money on: 20:06 < gregdek> 1. schwag. Simple stuff that we can send everywhere. Simple shirts, simple cds/dvds, simple stickers, simple. 20:06 < gregdek> 2. sending people to conferences who can't afford to get there otherwise. 20:06 < gregdek> That's almost entirely it. 20:06 < ke4qqq> is 2. RH people or non-RH people? 20:07 < gregdek> non-RH people. 20:07 < herlo> did you say how much the budget was? 20:07 < herlo> I assume it depends, but 20:07 < gregdek> Sometimes RH people come to beg us for money to send some engineer, and we will if we think it's a good deal, but we try to reserve that money for non-RH folks. 20:07 < gregdek> It's anywhere from $5k to $25k a quarter for NA. 20:07 < herlo> that's quite a variance 20:07 < ke4qqq> why such a wide swing? 20:07 < gregdek> FUDCon. 20:08 < gregdek> In a quarter where we have a US FUDCon, the spend goes up. 20:08 < ke4qqq> I'd imagine that's out of Ambassadors baliwick 20:08 < ke4qqq> or are we taking that over too :) 20:08 < gregdek> Unclear, to be honest. 20:08 < gregdek> As yet, that's a pretty big job. :) 20:08 < ke4qqq> indeed 20:09 < gregdek> But I'm certainly not averse to giving it over to Ambassadors if they want it. 20:09 * herlo wonders if 1) FUDCon could get its own budget and 2) Each Ambassador group could get a piece of that to send certain folks 20:09 * lxmaier_home would advocate giving fudcon to ambassadors, like in EMEA 20:09 < ke4qqq> we aren't ready for that yet. we can't even manage swag - give us 6 months or so. 20:09 < gregdek> +1. :) 20:09 * herlo doesn't mean that we should run FUDCon, but I think its in the right location... 20:10 < herlo> I was more interested in separating it out 20:10 < herlo> so that funding is more clear 20:10 * gregdek nods. 20:10 < gregdek> You know what? Let's find Max's budget page. 20:10 < gregdek> One sec. 20:11 < herlo> and when it comes time for FUDCon, ambassadors, as well as any other SCo, could have access to funds to send people... 20:11 < stickster> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommunityArchitecture/Expenses 20:12 < gregdek> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommunityArchitecture/Expenses 20:12 < gregdek> Doh! 20:12 < gregdek> :) 20:12 < herlo> lol 20:12 < herlo> gregdek: I like sticksters better, its secure! 20:12 < gregdek> Ass. :) 20:12 < ke4qqq> we have interns? 20:12 < herlo> :-D 20:12 < gregdek> They're engineering interns that do Fedora stuff. 20:13 < stickster> heh 20:13 < ke4qqq> It'd be nice if we could see how global swag was broken down by continent. 20:13 < gregdek> Yeah, that would be nice. 20:13 < gregdek> More work for Max, but what does he care? :) 20:13 < gregdek> There are limitations to using a wiki for this stuff. 20:14 < gregdek> You basically get one view. 20:14 < ke4qqq> what I do see is that the EMEA folks are getting pretty big spend for conferences. 20:14 < gregdek> We could keep it in a spreadsheet with multiple column breakdowns and such, or even use GnuCash or something, but it's all tradeoffs. 20:14 < gregdek> ke4qqq: Because they ask for it, and handle logistics. 20:14 < inode0> different continents have different needs, we need to figure out what we need regardless of what funding other people get 20:15 < ke4qqq> I am not saying that theshouldn't, more admiring 20:15 < gregdek> inode0: Excellent point. 20:15 < gregdek> And since you keep trying to get us away from budget talk... :) 20:15 < ke4qqq> I don't disagre inode0 - just impressed with what they have done. 20:15 < gregdek> Shall we table this for now, and talk more about goals? 20:15 < ke4qqq> +1 20:15 < gregdek> Since I think that's the discussion that inode0 is keen to dig into. 20:15 < herlo> goals would be good 20:16 < herlo> something I'd like to *not* see as a goal. Separate Fedora User Groups. 20:16 < gregdek> inode0: Do you want the floor? :) 20:17 < inode0> I'm keenly interested in academic outreach 20:17 < inode0> an untapped goldmine 20:17 < gregdek> Yes. I wish Jack were here. 20:18 < inode0> so do I since I know he has some ideas about how to approach that 20:18 < inode0> perhaps he can be poked for next meeting? 20:18 * gregdek mutters. 20:18 < gregdek> Most definitely. 20:19 < inode0> ok, then FUGs/LUGs - shall we mount an all out offensive against them for F10? :) 20:19 < herlo> ugh, no FUGs 20:19 < inode0> no FUGs? 20:19 < herlo> I find that (at least in Utah), we have disparate groups already 20:19 < gregdek> Is the LUG dead? 20:20 < gregdek> I think the LUG is dead. 20:20 < herlo> and we'll just make more little tiny islands 20:20 < herlo> gregdek: I believe its not 20:20 < herlo> the LUGs in UTAH are quite strong 20:20 < herlo> we have about 15 20:20 < herlo> and they all go pretty well 20:20 < inode0> we have active FUGs :) 20:20 < herlo> a couple struggle here and there. But maybe Utah is unique 20:20 < ke4qqq> LUGs as we know them are - but a few active here and there. 20:20 < gregdek> How can we leverage the LUGs to make inroads into Doing Good Things For The World? 20:21 < gregdek> Had this discussion with the folks at my local LUG. 20:21 < inode0> the organize barcamps in my area 20:21 < herlo> I think there's room there 20:21 < ke4qqq> your local lug isn't 'normal' it's way above what most people have. 20:21 < inode0> +y 20:21 < gregdek> It's become a social club where Linux interest is essentially accepted and secondary. Quite insular. 20:21 < herlo> gregdek: ahh, well we still have meetings and the like. But there is that *social* aspect that many people deem necessary 20:22 < inode0> gregdek: leveraging universities to do good things for the world might be more effective 20:22 < herlo> the real nerds now just hang out on irc and discuss how to make a better kernel and modules :) 20:22 < gregdek> Seems like most LUGs tend to whiff the "outreach" bits. :) 20:22 < gregdek> inode0: Bingo. You are exactly right. 20:22 < herlo> agreed, that's why I created the Utah Open Source Foundation, http://utos.org 20:22 < ke4qqq> greg: exactly - apparently they need a 'purpose' 20:23 < f13> oh man, I totally missed the start of this meeting. 20:23 < gregdek> See? Hold it and they will come. ;) 20:23 < stickster> Our LUG is doing SFD 20:23 < inode0> another place that is untapped mostly is church outreach groups, I gave an OLPC talk to one that is considering a 400 unit gift 20:23 < gregdek> f13: You're only 1hr20m late! 20:23 < herlo> maybe there's an opportunity here. Have *events* for the LUGs, speakers, bbqs, etc that we can discuss Fedora in a less *formal* way? 20:23 < stickster> f13: I only beat you by a half-hour, so I won't gloat 20:24 < stickster> Churches and area NPOs are good targets for evangelism. 20:24 < gregdek> I agree. 20:24 < f13> herlo: informal formats for the win. 20:24 < gregdek> Strongly. 20:24 < ke4qqq> indeed- I have given a number of talks to area Lions Clubs and Rotaries, and they were suprisingly receptive. 20:25 < herlo> ke4qqq: hmm, interesting idea. 20:25 < f13> I've always had more success in the informal social scene than any standing in front of people talking. 20:25 * herlo looks up the local BPOE 20:25 < gregdek> I love the idea of targeting organizations that are accustomed to civic activism. 20:26 < gregdek> Take people who are accustomed to doing cool stuff for their communities, and give them great tools to help. 20:26 < inode0> they are fundraising machines and don't blink at what are large numbers to most of us 20:26 < gregdek> Exactly right. 20:26 < ke4qqq> but what is the 'call to action' for those groups? 20:26 < gregdek> Ask them! 20:26 < gregdek> Get computers into the poorest libraries in your county. 20:26 < gregdek> For instance. 20:27 < pcalarco> or inner-city schools 20:27 < gregdek> Heh. Schools... tough sell. 20:27 < gregdek> I like to avoid angry, entrenched, unionized bureaucracies. ;) 20:27 < gregdek> But that's just me. 20:28 < pcalarco> there are some libraries like that too :) 20:28 < ke4qqq> my lug is running a program that is putting refurbed computers running Fedora into 'economically challenged' hands particularly school aged..... 20:28 < gregdek> Anyway, I think that a lot of good brainstorming along these lines could be done. 20:28 < stickster> gregdek: ke4qqq: Get Linux into the hands of Goodwill or other thrift stores 20:28 < gregdek> What I *crave* is a list of *success stories* along these lines. 20:28 < stickster> All the relief orgs. 20:29 < herlo> we have a local school district putting Ubuntu LTSP into two classrooms this coming school year 20:29 < ke4qqq> good point Greg: what are we trying to accomplish at this part of the meeting. 20:29 < gregdek> Yeah, we are 1.5hrs in. 20:29 < gregdek> I'd say we're in the midst of a strategy discussion. 20:30 < gregdek> That should probably continue at a later date. 20:30 < gregdek> Our current strategy has been to send people to Linux/Open Source events. 20:30 < gregdek> Is that the right place to focus, or should we be focusing elsewhere? 20:30 < herlo> this is definitely import 20:30 < herlo> ant 20:30 < gregdek> I think it's a key strategic question to answer. 20:31 < gregdek> Because the answer means that we would take dramatically different steps to reach such a goal. 20:31 < herlo> maybe there's a balance needed there. 20:31 < herlo> I don't see why diversifying our goals is a bad thing 20:31 < herlo> other than we really can't accomplish them all in the first 6 months 20:32 < ke4qqq> we can't drop cons/events but we need to 'reach out' to the unwashed masses as well. 20:32 < pcalarco> I need to log folks, thank you for the interesting discussion; happy to help more as we go forward;g'nite! 20:32 < inode0> I'd like to at least think hard about shifting some focus to new areas 20:33 < gregdek> Diversifying our goals is okay if we're willing to reach out to all of them. 20:33 < gregdek> So... 20:33 < gregdek> ...maybe we've reached the end of our meeting. 20:33 < herlo> could we have a rotating target? 20:33 < f13> heh 20:34 < gregdek> Rotating target? 20:34 < herlo> something like focus on one area for a while, then add another, and another, etc 20:34 < gregdek> Maybe. 20:34 < gregdek> The choice is yours. ;) 20:34 < ke4qqq> expanding range of targets. 20:34 < ke4qqq> so what action items before the next meeting and when is the next meeting? 20:35 < herlo> right, give us something *different* to do when things are working in one area or another 20:35 < inode0> or subgroups for people to focus on specific areas in 20:35 < herlo> right 20:35 < herlo> ke4qqq: are you saying we should be done :) 20:35 < gregdek> Is weekly too frequent at this point? 20:35 < ke4qqq> herlo: gregdek mentioned it a moment ago 20:35 < inode0> this is the point where it might not be too frequent 20:35 < herlo> I don't think so, I'm willing to meet 20:36 < ke4qqq> gregdek: no - withthis small of group too long and we'll languish on the vine 20:36 < herlo> ke4qqq: I know. :) 20:36 < gregdek> All right, then. 20:36 < herlo> todo's for next week? 20:36 < gregdek> Next week I'll be at OSCON, but I think we should meet anyway. 20:36 < ke4qqq> +1 20:37 < gregdek> So the first TODO is to figure out how we track progress. 20:37 < gregdek> I've always used the simple grid like we use in the marketing meetings: 20:37 < gregdek> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Tasks 20:37 < ke4qqq> that will work for the time being. 20:38 < ke4qqq> we may need something else when we become more regionalized. 20:38 < inode0> If we can get Jack next week I think that conversation could consume a substantial hunk of time 20:38 < gregdek> I know that Jack wants a separate program that is laser-focused on campus-based activities. 20:38 < herlo> do we have a page like that? 20:38 < gregdek> I'm waiting for him to announce something. :) 20:38 < inode0> yes, and how can we help in that 20:38 < ke4qqq> herlo: no but we can create one. 20:39 < gregdek> herlo: I'll take the action item to create the Tasks page for NA Ambassadors. 20:39 < herlo> ke4qqq: that's what I was gonna offer, just need the list 20:39 < herlo> gregdek: k 20:39 < gregdek> And then everyone else can fill it with potential tasks. :) 20:39 < gregdek> And we can discuss all of them. 20:39 < inode0> gregdek: it is also possible our goals wrt to universities might not entirely intersect with his 20:39 < herlo> I was going to say, another task would be to find a better vendor in regional areas I guess 20:39 < herlo> but I'll put it on the wiki 20:39 < gregdek> Do we want a separate NA ambassadors mailing list? 20:40 < herlo> how busy is the current one? 20:40 * herlo hasn't looked at stats 20:40 < ke4qqq> gregdek: not yet lets see what attention we grab in the next few months before splitting off 20:40 < ke4qqq> hopefully ti will spark some fires 20:40 < gregdek> ke4qqq: ok. 20:40 < ke4qqq> and get more attention from people who aren't attendign 20:40 < ke4qqq> and draw them back into the fold 20:41 < inode0> talking on the general list will likely show evidence of things happening to the dormant ambassadors which would be a positive 20:41 < gregdek> Good point. 20:41 < gregdek> All right. 20:41 < gregdek> Oh, who can send this log out to the list? 20:42 < ke4qqq> gregdek: whats to become of famsco? and by whose hand? 20:42 < herlo> I can 20:42 < herlo> gregdek: that was for the list 20:42 < gregdek> ke4qqq: a fair question, and one I'm not ready to answer yet. 20:43 < herlo> f-am-l right? 20:43 < gregdek> But I think the writing's on the wall. 20:43 < gregdek> herlo: yes. 20:43 < herlo> I'll send it out shortly 20:43 < ke4qqq> yeah I feel reticent to depose elected people - but divestiture of power is already occurring. Perhaps fedboard or something. or it gets reshaped as something else. 20:44 < gregdek> Governance models reshape themselves all the time. 20:44 < gregdek> If FAMSCO is serving its constituents, it will prosper. 20:44 < gregdek> If not, it will die. 20:44 < gregdek> Anyway. 20:44 < gregdek> I guess we're at an end. 20:45 < f13> fin 20:46 < gregdek> Thanks y'all. I'll make this a weekly meeting for now. From charlie at linuxdragon.net Wed Jul 16 04:08:11 2008 From: charlie at linuxdragon.net (Charlie) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:08:11 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Reminder: North American Ambassadors meeting tonight! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <167d4ad59d99adbbc45b912b2fec5971@mail.linuxdragon.net> Greg, I got added to some last minute travel to DC and will not be back home in MA until Thursday night. I'll read over the minutes to get up-to-date. I hated missing my first meeting. -- Charlie On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:58:23 -0400 (EDT), Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > Hello, North American ambassadors. Please be sure to make tonight's > meeting. > > When: 9pm Eastern US time > > Where: #fedora-meeting, irc.freenode.net > > Why: To figure out how ambassadors can have maximum impact in > North America. How should we be spending our time? LUG > outreach? Government outreach? College recruiting? > Burning CDs? A short update on North American events, > followed by an open discussion, followed, I hope, by > a list of actionable work items. > > --g > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- -- Charlie From charlie at linuxdragon.net Wed Jul 16 04:11:08 2008 From: charlie at linuxdragon.net (Charlie) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:11:08 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxWorld Message-ID: <875172fca2c23f81ddd458d877b60e94@mail.linuxdragon.net> I plan to attend the LinuxWorld conference Aug 4-7. Who else plans to be there? -- Charlie From chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 08:16:32 2008 From: chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com (Dipanjan Chakraborty) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:46:32 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] thinking about the mentor program In-Reply-To: <487D4C9E.3030001@gmail.com> References: <49d06cc40807092209r2519c731g18bbbc381060a2a9@mail.gmail.com> <487D4C9E.3030001@gmail.com> Message-ID: Its not that 'official'. They would like somebody not related to the college to approach them. Dipanjan Chakraborty On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:49 AM, "Sankarshan (????????)" < foss.mailinglists at gmail.com> wrote: > Dipanjan Chakraborty wrote: > >> The case with my college is that they want somebody from Fedora to >> approach them officially. Susmit is working on that. And I am sure he will >> come up with a solution soon. >> > > By 'officially' if you mean in the same fashion as any software development > company in your local area approaches the college, then it might be sometime > before we arrive at a process for that. Susmit is still at the initial > stages of a discussion around the issue. > > No doubt certifications will be an incentive. But are there enough >> projects for the undergraduate level students? We must work on this point. >> > > We can't work on 'this' point till we arrive at some sort of conclusion as > to how much pre-loaded with knowledge the target students are. Have they > been doing a variety of thing around OS or applications ? If yes, then they > are easily pointed to various projects (rather, I'd argue that in this case > they would be the ones coming up with various projects). From whatever my > limited comprehension of the education system and colleges is, this isn't > the case (in India) in a majority of the colleges in India. On the > fedora-india list there is an ongoing discussion about how best to ramp up > the skillsets of the potential candidates participating in this program. A > large part of that is being inspired by what is happening on #dgplug and its > IRC classes. Perhaps you'd like to latch on to that thread. > > As we stand now, we are trying to roll a program for an audience about whom > we don't know much, and barring the 'we'd like official contact' nothing > much is known about the authorities who would accept this program. > > > -- > > http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published > http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science > http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wonderer4711 at gmx.de Wed Jul 16 08:23:46 2008 From: wonderer4711 at gmx.de (wonderer4711 at gmx.de) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:23:46 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxWorld In-Reply-To: <875172fca2c23f81ddd458d877b60e94@mail.linuxdragon.net> References: <875172fca2c23f81ddd458d877b60e94@mail.linuxdragon.net> Message-ID: <487DB012.3040204@gmx.de> Hy Charlie, in wich country? Do you have an URL to this? best regards Henrik Heigl // wonderer @ fedoraproject.org // Charlie schrieb: > I plan to attend the LinuxWorld conference Aug 4-7. Who else plans to be > there? > > -- > Charlie > > > From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jul 16 09:43:00 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:43:00 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador NA meeting minutes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > 19:17 < lxmaier_home> inode0: red hat in emea hardly goes to > local/regional events -- i am not even sure they were at linuxTag Red Hat "corporate" had a small presence at LinuxTag -- one person from HR and one person from Marketing, and they paid 2,000 EUR for the Fedora Booth, which the HR person took a little corner of for her resume-drop meetings. Aside from that, it was the Blue Man Group. > 19:23 < ke4qqq> lxmaier_home: I'd agree - but RHNA is already sending > out the stuff - I have asked Greg and Max and FAMSCO to send stuff for > events and it gets sent to me every time. It seems like we waste more > time going through the appropriations process than anything else. I'm glad it always gets to you, though as the guy who did the "send swag all over North America" requests for about 2 years, I'd love to see it get more automated. The truth, from my perspective: It was easier to take 30-60 minutes every week, and just do it all manually than to spend all the time it would take to finish up a turnkey solution. Maybe that's wrong/lazy, but in my own day to day functions the last couple years, that just ended up being reality. > 19:24 * herlo actually thinks that it'd be nice just to *have* the > stuff on hand. No event necessary We tend to mass-produce swag and horde it at RH and wait for events/requests to come in. This model doesn't scale too well, though. For a while we had the "swag packs" on the brand fuel store, and the "we give them an address and they ship it out" method worked well, but the price was just insane. > 19:28 < ke4qqq> gregdek: based on how things operate - I'd say RH owns > NA Ambassadors - we are too dependent on them. Famsco to a lesser > degree - but really we see precious little of them. Hopefully, the place you are seeing FAMSCo is in the Budget Allocation process for events worldwide. We followed a pretty strict set of guidelines for "getting your event funded" in Q2, and it worked really well all over the world. Every event on the FedoraEvents page has budget and support from FAMSCo. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Budget http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-July/msg00152.html http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-April/msg00005.html > 19:29 < gregdek> a. Ambassadors are more invested when they can > operate autonomously, and RH should give funding, but *not* > necessarily schwag; This is the model we use in EMEA, and are sort of moving to in NA, by virtue of the fact that in recent months, an Ambassador's support has been in the form of PayPal'd money, and it's up to them to take it from there. > 19:29 < gregdek> b. FAMSCO is a broken concept that does not take > regional needs into account. > 19:29 < gregdek> Well, perhaps it was useful for its time, but as > ambassadors around the world get up and run, it's outliving its > usefulness. I think I disagree with you there, Greg. See below... > 19:29 < herlo> I need to ask a simple question about a. To whom does > RH give the funding? 19:30 < gregdek> Good question. 19:30 < gregdek> > In EMEA, we give it to various folks to help make things happen. 19:30 > < herlo> is it direct to NA ambassadors? Or to FAMSCo or some such > 19:30 < herlo> because to be honest, I personally don't want money, I > want the swag 19:30 < gregdek> In LATAM, we give almost all of it to > Rodrigo Padula da Oliveira in Brazil, and he makes things happen. Hmm, I'm not sure I agree that FAMSCo is broken. FAMSCo has a membership that includes people worldwide. Here is the workflow: FAMSCo is given a budget. This budget comes from Red Hat, and it is a sub-section of the larger Community Architecture budget. This FAMSCo budget is for the quarter, and FAMSCo as a body is *fully empowered* to disburse those funds worldwide as they see best. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommunityArchitecture/Expenses In Q1, FAMSCo spent almost $20,000, spread out pretty well across the globe: * North America -- $5,250 * Europe, Middle East, Africa -- $3,030 * India, Asia, Australia -- $1,975 * South America -- $1,000 * Fedora 9 CDs and DVDs for FreeMedia and North America -- $8,175 In Q2 (with 6 weeks left) FAMSCo has spent about $7k (with another $8k still to be spent), and the balance worldwide is even better: * North America -- $2,720 * Europe, Middle East, Africa -- $2,525 * India, Asia, Australia -- $0 * South America -- $2,000 Keep in mind that these numbers do *not* include things like FISL in Brazil in Q1 which had its own budget, or the $8k in funding from Red Hat that is being spent directly on community-building activities in India. Point being, I think FAMSCo continues to serve a purpose, and is empowered with seeing to it that Ambassadors get funds worldwide. If you have received money for an event this year, that came from FAMSCo. Simply put, the role of FAMSCo is to make sure that when Red Hat says "community, you have $X for events worldwide" that regions get what they need. That doesn't mean every region has to get exactly the same amount of money (this isn't summer camp where everyone gets exactly the same number of cookies), but it's meant to ensure that no one starves due to neglect. That is why the event funding process I have set up allows the FedoraEvents page to rule. If you get your event on that page by the deadline (as laid out in my emails to Ambassadors list, linked to above), you will get *some sort of funding*. The better your rep as an event organizer and the larger your event, the more you'll get. In EMEA, FAMSCo is able to hand money directly to Fedora EMEA e.V., the non-profit set up to handle stuff locally. In South America, like Greg says, it's basically Rodrigo. In North America, we hand small amounts of money to individuals, because *Red Hat* has always filled that niche as "central organizer of swag and stuff". > 19:35 < herlo> the stated process doesn't even work right now. It > says you must fill out a form that isn't available atm I don't about any forms. In my opinion, the process is what I stated above. An Ambassador goes through the "get my event on the Events page by the deadline. FAMSCo will allocate me budget, and then the FAMSCo treasurer (who happens to be Max) will contact me and ask me if I just want cash, or if I want Red Hat to order me swag, or whatever." Maybe we need someone to delete all the old "process stuff" that has, truthfully, been routed around. > 19:42 < lxmaier_home> i do strongly lean towards the "you want to run > an event, you get the money payPaled to you and off you go!" This is pretty much the way it has been moving to... > 19:47 < ke4qqq> lxmaier_home: that doesn't scale well - if you need to > order 10,000 CDs and then get reimbursed thats a painful reimbursement > scheme. That's where it breaks completely. As the guy who actually deals with the money, I can tell you that once you hit about $1,000, people want the money up front, and can't float it. > 19:49 < gregdek> Here's another thing: we chose a crappy vendor, and > we're stuck with them. Well, we fired Brand Fuel (if that's who you're talking about) for the CDs a long time ago, after Fedora 5. We continue to use them for NA swag mainly because it's convenient. We email them and say "we need a couple hundred shirts and stickes, here are 3 addresses and a deadline" and they hit it. Then we pay, and "charge" those events from the budget that FAMSCo gave them, if that makes sense. It works ok-ish, but I don't love the process. We're not getting nearly as much for our money as we could be. > 19:51 < gregdek> If I trust the people, I don't want to manage them. Agreed. I want to put money directly into the hands of trusted community members. But it has to be done in a way that the accounting still works! Fortunately, RH's finance folks will reimburse off of Paypal, which is why we've been moving to a "you got a budget of $X, and here it is, go nuts" model. With EVENT REPORTS as the "proof" that the money was well spent, or else the trust level is broken. > 19:57 < gregdek> * Max orders a ton of DVDs/CDs from BrandFuel. Not brand fuel, but yeah... I've already told Paul and Mo that I will no longer have anything to do with CD/DVD production other than making sure the budget exists, and the bills get paid. If we want to use Karlie for CDs and DVDs in North America, then the most important thing to do is get our Art Team working with her Art people on color matching, starting RIGHT NOW. > 19:58 < ke4qqq> lxmaier_home: it takes WEEKS after the release before > media is available. > 19:58 < herlo> lxmaier_home: is that based upon some sort of metric? > 19:59 < lxmaier_home> nope, just crappy vendor > 19:59 < ke4qqq> and we are on a 6-month release cycle. With F9, the artwork was ready before the bits went GOLD, but the GOLD bits are only available 2 days before release. It's impossible to get a 1 week turnaround time on thousands of DVDs/CDs *for the budget we have*. > 20:01 < gregdek> We produced about 2500 CDs/DVDs for NA for Fedora 9. > 20:01 < gregdek> Is that a good number? A bad number? No idea. We > pulled it right out of our ass with what budget we had left. > 20:02 < lxmaier_home> that cost us what? 3000? No, that's wrong. We produced 3,000 Live CDs and 2,000 DVDs. 5,000 total media for $8,175. It was not fantastic. This company did a great job for F8, but their prices went up and their quality went down for F9, so that's that. Here's my problem -- in Q3, people in North America are going to want media again. If we spend $8,000 on media for NA out of a total FAMSCo budget of $12-15k, then what the heck is the rest of the world going to do? And how will we have money for subsidizing travel and actually getting people to shows? My take: no more mass production of media. The artwork for each release needs to be on the wiki, and when an Ambassador gets $1,000 of budget for his event, he should be able to go to Karlie (or someone) and say "send me $400 worth of media". > 20:03 * gregdek wonders whatever happened to Fedora Unity's non-profit... Nothing ever happened to it. It's a non-starter. > 20:07 < herlo> did you say how much the budget was? 20:07 < herlo> I > assume it depends, but 20:07 < gregdek> Sometimes RH people come to > beg us for money to send some engineer, and we will if we think it's a > good deal, but we try to reserve that money for non-RH folks. 20:07 < > gregdek> It's anywhere from $5k to $25k a quarter for NA. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommunityArchitecture/Expenses We spend more money in North America than anywhere in the world. > 20:09 * herlo wonders if 1) FUDCon could get its own budget and 2) > Each Ambassador group could get a piece of that to send certain folks FUDCon and other "target" shows worldwide do get their own budget, as the link above shows. > 20:42 < ke4qqq> gregdek: whats to become of famsco? and by whose hand? > 20:42 < herlo> I can > 20:42 < herlo> gregdek: that was for the list > 20:42 < gregdek> ke4qqq: a fair question, and one I'm not ready to answer yet. > 20:43 < herlo> f-am-l right? > 20:43 < gregdek> But I think the writing's on the wall. > 20:43 < gregdek> herlo: yes. > 20:43 < herlo> I'll send it out shortly > 20:43 < ke4qqq> yeah I feel reticent to depose elected people - but > divestiture of power is already occurring. Perhaps fedboard or > something. or it gets reshaped as something else. > 20:44 < gregdek> Governance models reshape themselves all the time. > 20:44 < gregdek> If FAMSCO is serving its constituents, it will prosper. > 20:44 < gregdek> If not, it will die. I don't understand. The model you guys are talking about is the same one that FAMSCo is trying to promote, IMHO. FAMSCo exists to push responsibility into local regions, to make the budget decisions, and to resolve disputes (which seem to be limited to "what should we do with spammers"). You folks might think that I make those calls myself -- I don't. FAMSCo makes them. All I do is give FAMSCo the parameters and see to it that the numbers add up in the end. * RodrigoPadula * ThomasCanniot * FrancescoUgolini (Chair) * FabianAffolter (Vice-Chair) * JeffreyTadlock * AndreasRau * JohnBabich That's your FAMSCo membership. You'll notice that it is quite global, and that not a single one of those people works for Red Hat? You're ready to throw them out, why, exactly? I submit to you that the FAMSCo model is working pretty darn well outside of the US, and that everything you are talking about in this meeting fits DIRECTLY into the larger goals of what FAMSCo hopes the Ambassadors group can be. --Max From teseu at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 16 09:57:55 2008 From: teseu at fedoraproject.org (Teseu) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:57:55 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] STF engajado com o Software Livre Message-ID: Prezados, ? at? com um certo orgulho que anuncio que o Supremo Tribunal Federal criou recentemente o N?cleo de Software Livre e Padr?es Abertos, para o qual fui convidado a fazer parte, com o entuito de estudar o processo de migra??o de suas licen?as propriet?rias. ? s? um come?o, a substitui??o do M$Office pelo BrOffice na TI, mas como piloto para substitui??o em toda a casa e previs?o de substitui??o de todas as licen?as poss?veis. Teseu http://teseu.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/o-primeiro-passo-para-um-mundo-maior/ -- "...don't underestimate the power of the dark side..." From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jul 16 10:02:29 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:02:29 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador NA meeting minutes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Max Spevack wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommunityArchitecture/Expenses Replying to my own email, I just want to clarify: I'll support whatever new ideas and workflow folks in NA want to try. It's all good. My job is to make sure that the budget numbers add up, and that the budget is managed transparently so that the folks who are trying to make decisions can see what resources are available, and what tradeoffs exist. This email thread is *exactly why* the Community & Fedora budget has been managed transparently since my first day on the Fedora job. --Max From loupgaroublond at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 10:14:48 2008 From: loupgaroublond at gmail.com (Yaakov Nemoy) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:14:48 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador NA meeting minutes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7f692fec0807160314kafb525ay8e00c2cc1ea84dc1@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Max Spevack wrote: >> 20:01 < gregdek> We produced about 2500 CDs/DVDs for NA for Fedora 9. >> 20:01 < gregdek> Is that a good number? A bad number? No idea. We >> pulled it right out of our ass with what budget we had left. >> 20:02 < lxmaier_home> that cost us what? 3000? > > No, that's wrong. We produced 3,000 Live CDs and 2,000 DVDs. 5,000 total > media for $8,175. It was not fantastic. This company did a great job for > F8, but their prices went up and their quality went down for F9, so that's > that. > > Here's my problem -- in Q3, people in North America are going to want media > again. If we spend $8,000 on media for NA out of a total FAMSCo budget of > $12-15k, then what the heck is the rest of the world going to do? And how > will we have money for subsidizing travel and actually getting people to > shows? > > My take: no more mass production of media. The artwork for each release > needs to be on the wiki, and when an Ambassador gets $1,000 of budget for > his event, he should be able to go to Karlie (or someone) and say "send me > $400 worth of media". Why not just push USB sticks more? Perhaps we need to invest enough money into a head fund of 200 USB sticks for a couple of regions, and give people the chance to buy USB sticks like we did in LinuxTag. Then the funds from that can be used to set up a few more regions with a pool of resellable USB sticks. As for free distribution, polish Kobold up a bit, so we can start doing more USB Fueling stations. I think this might be more cost effective in the long run. -Yaakov From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jul 16 10:24:36 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:24:36 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador NA meeting minutes In-Reply-To: <7f692fec0807160314kafb525ay8e00c2cc1ea84dc1@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f692fec0807160314kafb525ay8e00c2cc1ea84dc1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Yaakov Nemoy wrote: > Why not just push USB sticks more? Perhaps we need to invest enough > money into a head fund of 200 USB sticks for a couple of regions, and > give people the chance to buy USB sticks like we did in LinuxTag. Then > the funds from that can be used to set up a few more regions with a > pool of resellable USB sticks. I have always encouraged people to sell swag, in order to fund the purchase or more swag. For whatever reason, most event organizers don't like doing that, and prefer to just give it away. And that's fine too. Each event organizer makes their own decisions. For USB keys in any large quantity it would almost be a requirement to sell, since 2 GB USB keys are really expensive to just give away, and it will consume an event's entire budget very quickly with no way to recoup costs. --Max From anderson.to at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 11:15:07 2008 From: anderson.to at gmail.com (Anderson Menezes) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:15:07 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] STF engajado com o Software Livre In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15a10e4c0807160415m66caeba2o10b63e18c1df2804@mail.gmail.com> Cariss?mo Compartilhamos do seu orgulho e desde j? oferecemos todo o apoio necess?rio e n?s da fam?lia MPE-TO deixamos as portas abertas para Voc? e equipe. Anderson 2008/7/16 Teseu : > Prezados, > > ? at? com um certo orgulho que anuncio que o Supremo Tribunal Federal > criou recentemente o N?cleo de Software Livre e Padr?es Abertos, para > o qual fui convidado a fazer parte, com o entuito de estudar o > processo de migra??o de suas licen?as propriet?rias. ? s? um come?o, a > substitui??o do M$Office pelo BrOffice na TI, mas como piloto para > substitui??o em toda a casa e previs?o de substitui??o de todas as > licen?as poss?veis. > > Teseu > > http://teseu.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/o-primeiro-passo-para-um-mundo-maior/ > > -- > "...don't underestimate the power of the dark side..." > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Anderson Menezes User Linux n? 360107 Coordenador de Redes e Conectividade Consultor em Software Livre e Integrante da Equipe de Migracao do MPE-TO 63 ? 9226-0757 <<>>> ====================== Migra??o Servidores 100% || Migra??o BrOffice 100% || Migra??o Esta??es 45% || ====================== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 16 12:30:22 2008 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:30:22 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador NA meeting minutes In-Reply-To: References: <7f692fec0807160314kafb525ay8e00c2cc1ea84dc1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <54088.VwBUX1dRCno=.1216211422.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> > For USB keys in any large quantity it would almost be a requirement to > sell, since 2 GB USB keys are really expensive to just give away, and it > will consume an event's entire budget very quickly with no way to recoup > costs. > USB sticks are reusable. Ship some to any event organizer, he can reuse them for next release by replacing the installed Fedora release by the next one. This way, whether we keep them or sell them at events (or even give them away if we can have cheap ones), but in both cases, the remaining ones are not garbage when Fedora N+1 is out. This could save money, and the baby seals :) ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin From stickster at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 12:32:11 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:32:11 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador NA meeting minutes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1216211531.3795.16.camel@victoria> On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 11:43 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > > 20:01 < gregdek> We produced about 2500 CDs/DVDs for NA for Fedora 9. > > 20:01 < gregdek> Is that a good number? A bad number? No idea. We > > pulled it right out of our ass with what budget we had left. > > 20:02 < lxmaier_home> that cost us what? 3000? > > No, that's wrong. We produced 3,000 Live CDs and 2,000 DVDs. 5,000 > total media for $8,175. It was not fantastic. This company did a great > job for F8, but their prices went up and their quality went down for F9, > so that's that. > > Here's my problem -- in Q3, people in North America are going to want > media again. If we spend $8,000 on media for NA out of a total FAMSCo > budget of $12-15k, then what the heck is the rest of the world going to > do? And how will we have money for subsidizing travel and actually > getting people to shows? > > My take: no more mass production of media. The artwork for each release > needs to be on the wiki, and when an Ambassador gets $1,000 of budget > for his event, he should be able to go to Karlie (or someone) and say > "send me $400 worth of media". Max, this idea about how to do future CD/DVD production is *great*. Here's another benefit of that model -- when people *inside* Red Hat want media to support events, their groups can be responsible for paying for the media. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From gdk at redhat.com Wed Jul 16 13:00:59 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador NA meeting minutes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for this analysis, Max. I humbly retract my libelous and ignorant statements about FAMSCO. That's what happens when you don't pay attention over a number of years, and then shoot your mouth off. Of course, we will need to make sure that NA understands how they fit into FAMSCO, and that their voice is appropriately represented. Which is iWolf's job, it seems, since he's the only NA guy on the list. IIRC, FAMSCO was open election. Is there any assurance of regional representation? --g On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Max Spevack wrote: >> 19:17 < lxmaier_home> inode0: red hat in emea hardly goes to local/regional >> events -- i am not even sure they were at linuxTag > > Red Hat "corporate" had a small presence at LinuxTag -- one person from HR > and one person from Marketing, and they paid 2,000 EUR for the Fedora Booth, > which the HR person took a little corner of for her resume-drop meetings. > > Aside from that, it was the Blue Man Group. > >> 19:23 < ke4qqq> lxmaier_home: I'd agree - but RHNA is already sending out >> the stuff - I have asked Greg and Max and FAMSCO to send stuff for events >> and it gets sent to me every time. It seems like we waste more time going >> through the appropriations process than anything else. > > I'm glad it always gets to you, though as the guy who did the "send swag all > over North America" requests for about 2 years, I'd love to see it get more > automated. The truth, from my perspective: It was easier to take 30-60 > minutes every week, and just do it all manually than to spend all the time it > would take to finish up a turnkey solution. Maybe that's wrong/lazy, but in > my own day to day functions the last couple years, that just ended up being > reality. > >> 19:24 * herlo actually thinks that it'd be nice just to *have* the stuff on >> hand. No event necessary > > We tend to mass-produce swag and horde it at RH and wait for events/requests > to come in. This model doesn't scale too well, though. > > For a while we had the "swag packs" on the brand fuel store, and the "we give > them an address and they ship it out" method worked well, but the price was > just insane. > >> 19:28 < ke4qqq> gregdek: based on how things operate - I'd say RH owns NA >> Ambassadors - we are too dependent on them. Famsco to a lesser degree - but >> really we see precious little of them. > > Hopefully, the place you are seeing FAMSCo is in the Budget Allocation > process for events worldwide. We followed a pretty strict set of guidelines > for "getting your event funded" in Q2, and it worked really well all over the > world. Every event on the FedoraEvents page has budget and support from > FAMSCo. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Budget > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-July/msg00152.html > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-April/msg00005.html > >> 19:29 < gregdek> a. Ambassadors are more invested when they can operate >> autonomously, and RH should give funding, but *not* necessarily schwag; > > This is the model we use in EMEA, and are sort of moving to in NA, by virtue > of the fact that in recent months, an Ambassador's support has been in the > form of PayPal'd money, and it's up to them to take it from there. > >> 19:29 < gregdek> b. FAMSCO is a broken concept that does not take regional >> needs into account. > >> 19:29 < gregdek> Well, perhaps it was useful for its time, but as >> ambassadors around the world get up and run, it's outliving its usefulness. > > I think I disagree with you there, Greg. See below... > >> 19:29 < herlo> I need to ask a simple question about a. To whom does RH >> give the funding? 19:30 < gregdek> Good question. 19:30 < gregdek> In EMEA, >> we give it to various folks to help make things happen. 19:30 < herlo> is >> it direct to NA ambassadors? Or to FAMSCo or some such 19:30 < herlo> >> because to be honest, I personally don't want money, I want the swag 19:30 >> < gregdek> In LATAM, we give almost all of it to Rodrigo Padula da Oliveira >> in Brazil, and he makes things happen. > > Hmm, I'm not sure I agree that FAMSCo is broken. FAMSCo has a membership > that includes people worldwide. Here is the workflow: > > FAMSCo is given a budget. This budget comes from Red Hat, and it is a > sub-section of the larger Community Architecture budget. This FAMSCo budget > is for the quarter, and FAMSCo as a body is *fully empowered* to disburse > those funds worldwide as they see best. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommunityArchitecture/Expenses > > In Q1, FAMSCo spent almost $20,000, spread out pretty well across the globe: > > * North America -- $5,250 > * Europe, Middle East, Africa -- $3,030 > * India, Asia, Australia -- $1,975 > * South America -- $1,000 > * Fedora 9 CDs and DVDs for FreeMedia and North America -- $8,175 > > In Q2 (with 6 weeks left) FAMSCo has spent about $7k (with another $8k still > to be spent), and the balance worldwide is even better: > > * North America -- $2,720 > * Europe, Middle East, Africa -- $2,525 > * India, Asia, Australia -- $0 > * South America -- $2,000 > > Keep in mind that these numbers do *not* include things like FISL in Brazil > in Q1 which had its own budget, or the $8k in funding from Red Hat that is > being spent directly on community-building activities in India. > > Point being, I think FAMSCo continues to serve a purpose, and is empowered > with seeing to it that Ambassadors get funds worldwide. If you have received > money for an event this year, that came from FAMSCo. > > Simply put, the role of FAMSCo is to make sure that when Red Hat says > "community, you have $X for events worldwide" that regions get what they > need. That doesn't mean every region has to get exactly the same amount of > money (this isn't summer camp where everyone gets exactly the same number of > cookies), but it's meant to ensure that no one starves due to neglect. > > That is why the event funding process I have set up allows the FedoraEvents > page to rule. If you get your event on that page by the deadline (as laid > out in my emails to Ambassadors list, linked to above), you will get *some > sort of funding*. The better your rep as an event organizer and the larger > your event, the more you'll get. > > In EMEA, FAMSCo is able to hand money directly to Fedora EMEA e.V., the > non-profit set up to handle stuff locally. In South America, like Greg says, > it's basically Rodrigo. In North America, we hand small amounts of money to > individuals, because *Red Hat* has always filled that niche as "central > organizer of swag and stuff". > >> 19:35 < herlo> the stated process doesn't even work right now. It says you >> must fill out a form that isn't available atm > > I don't about any forms. In my opinion, the process is what I stated above. > An Ambassador goes through the "get my event on the Events page by the > deadline. FAMSCo will allocate me budget, and then the FAMSCo treasurer (who > happens to be Max) will contact me and ask me if I just want cash, or if I > want Red Hat to order me swag, or whatever." > > Maybe we need someone to delete all the old "process stuff" that has, > truthfully, been routed around. > >> 19:42 < lxmaier_home> i do strongly lean towards the "you want to run an >> event, you get the money payPaled to you and off you go!" > > This is pretty much the way it has been moving to... > >> 19:47 < ke4qqq> lxmaier_home: that doesn't scale well - if you need to >> order 10,000 CDs and then get reimbursed thats a painful reimbursement >> scheme. > > That's where it breaks completely. As the guy who actually deals with the > money, I can tell you that once you hit about $1,000, people want the money > up front, and can't float it. > >> 19:49 < gregdek> Here's another thing: we chose a crappy vendor, and >> we're stuck with them. > > Well, we fired Brand Fuel (if that's who you're talking about) for the CDs a > long time ago, after Fedora 5. We continue to use them for NA swag mainly > because it's convenient. We email them and say "we need a couple hundred > shirts and stickes, here are 3 addresses and a deadline" and they hit it. > Then we pay, and "charge" those events from the budget that FAMSCo gave them, > if that makes sense. > > It works ok-ish, but I don't love the process. We're not getting nearly as > much for our money as we could be. > >> 19:51 < gregdek> If I trust the people, I don't want to manage them. > > Agreed. I want to put money directly into the hands of trusted community > members. But it has to be done in a way that the accounting still works! > Fortunately, RH's finance folks will reimburse off of Paypal, which is why > we've been moving to a "you got a budget of $X, and here it is, go nuts" > model. With EVENT REPORTS as the "proof" that the money was well spent, or > else the trust level is broken. > >> 19:57 < gregdek> * Max orders a ton of DVDs/CDs from BrandFuel. > > Not brand fuel, but yeah... > > I've already told Paul and Mo that I will no longer have anything to do with > CD/DVD production other than making sure the budget exists, and the bills get > paid. If we want to use Karlie for CDs and DVDs in North America, then the > most important thing to do is get our Art Team working with her Art people on > color matching, starting RIGHT NOW. > >> 19:58 < ke4qqq> lxmaier_home: it takes WEEKS after the release before >> media is available. >> 19:58 < herlo> lxmaier_home: is that based upon some sort of metric? >> 19:59 < lxmaier_home> nope, just crappy vendor >> 19:59 < ke4qqq> and we are on a 6-month release cycle. > > With F9, the artwork was ready before the bits went GOLD, but the GOLD bits > are only available 2 days before release. It's impossible to get a 1 week > turnaround time on thousands of DVDs/CDs *for the budget we have*. > >> 20:01 < gregdek> We produced about 2500 CDs/DVDs for NA for Fedora 9. >> 20:01 < gregdek> Is that a good number? A bad number? No idea. We >> pulled it right out of our ass with what budget we had left. >> 20:02 < lxmaier_home> that cost us what? 3000? > > No, that's wrong. We produced 3,000 Live CDs and 2,000 DVDs. 5,000 total > media for $8,175. It was not fantastic. This company did a great job for > F8, but their prices went up and their quality went down for F9, so that's > that. > > Here's my problem -- in Q3, people in North America are going to want media > again. If we spend $8,000 on media for NA out of a total FAMSCo budget of > $12-15k, then what the heck is the rest of the world going to do? And how > will we have money for subsidizing travel and actually getting people to > shows? > > My take: no more mass production of media. The artwork for each release > needs to be on the wiki, and when an Ambassador gets $1,000 of budget for his > event, he should be able to go to Karlie (or someone) and say "send me $400 > worth of media". > >> 20:03 * gregdek wonders whatever happened to Fedora Unity's non-profit... > > Nothing ever happened to it. It's a non-starter. > >> 20:07 < herlo> did you say how much the budget was? 20:07 < herlo> I assume >> it depends, but 20:07 < gregdek> Sometimes RH people come to beg us for >> money to send some engineer, and we will if we think it's a good deal, but >> we try to reserve that money for non-RH folks. 20:07 < gregdek> It's >> anywhere from $5k to $25k a quarter for NA. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommunityArchitecture/Expenses > > We spend more money in North America than anywhere in the world. > >> 20:09 * herlo wonders if 1) FUDCon could get its own budget and 2) >> Each Ambassador group could get a piece of that to send certain folks > > FUDCon and other "target" shows worldwide do get their own budget, as the > link above shows. > >> 20:42 < ke4qqq> gregdek: whats to become of famsco? and by whose hand? >> 20:42 < herlo> I can >> 20:42 < herlo> gregdek: that was for the list >> 20:42 < gregdek> ke4qqq: a fair question, and one I'm not ready to answer >> yet. >> 20:43 < herlo> f-am-l right? >> 20:43 < gregdek> But I think the writing's on the wall. >> 20:43 < gregdek> herlo: yes. >> 20:43 < herlo> I'll send it out shortly >> 20:43 < ke4qqq> yeah I feel reticent to depose elected people - but >> divestiture of power is already occurring. Perhaps fedboard or >> something. or it gets reshaped as something else. >> 20:44 < gregdek> Governance models reshape themselves all the time. >> 20:44 < gregdek> If FAMSCO is serving its constituents, it will prosper. >> 20:44 < gregdek> If not, it will die. > > I don't understand. The model you guys are talking about is the same one > that FAMSCo is trying to promote, IMHO. FAMSCo exists to push responsibility > into local regions, to make the budget decisions, and to resolve disputes > (which seem to be limited to "what should we do with spammers"). You folks > might think that I make those calls myself -- I don't. FAMSCo makes them. > All I do is give FAMSCo the parameters and see to it that the numbers add up > in the end. > > * RodrigoPadula > * ThomasCanniot > * FrancescoUgolini (Chair) > * FabianAffolter (Vice-Chair) > * JeffreyTadlock > * AndreasRau > * JohnBabich > > That's your FAMSCo membership. You'll notice that it is quite global, and > that not a single one of those people works for Red Hat? You're ready to > throw them out, why, exactly? I submit to you that the FAMSCo model is > working pretty darn well outside of the US, and that everything you are > talking about in this meeting fits DIRECTLY into the larger goals of what > FAMSCo hopes the Ambassadors group can be. > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jul 16 13:26:59 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:26:59 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador NA meeting minutes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > Of course, we will need to make sure that NA understands how they fit > into FAMSCO, and that their voice is appropriately represented. > Which is iWolf's job, it seems, since he's the only NA guy on the > list. We need to make sure that everyone worldwide knows out they fit into FAMSCo, and part of FAMSCo's job is to say loudly "here is our vision for organization, and how everyone fits in. Comment plz". Ambassadors: does famsco need to be more vocal in that area? --Max From br4in5t0rmm at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 13:50:02 2008 From: br4in5t0rmm at gmail.com (Erick Henrique) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:50:02 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] =?windows-1252?q?Ajuda_material_publicit=E1rio_par?= =?windows-1252?q?a_Revista_Fedora_Brasil?= Message-ID: <67d66b7b0807160650hb578c6egf13f3a6b44b2ed78@mail.gmail.com> Bom dia a todos Precisamos de ajuda para levantar sugest?es de nomes e obter logomarcas ou banners das seguintes empresas, comunidades e/ou portais de software livre para utiliza-los no preenchimentos dos espa?os em branco que prejudicam o visual das p?ginas de nossa revista. Lista de fontes de publicidade para preenchimento de espa?os vasios: Empresas: Mozilla Brasil Red Hat Brasil (sugest?es??) Eventos Nacionais e Internacionais: Latinoware Software Freedom Day FLISOL BlenderPRO CONISLI (sugest?es??) Comunidades e portais: Projetofedora.org Softwarelivre.org Safernet.org.br Linuxchix Brasil BR Linux OLPC(One Laptop per Child) ? Brasil e Internacional Inkscape Brasil Comunidade CentOS OGIMP SNORTBR (sugest?es??) N?cleos de Estudos de Software Livre (referenciando as universidades que os mant?m): ???? Precisamos de ajuda porque n?o possuimos os contatos com todas estas empresas ou comunidades, portanto, se algu?m souber de e-mail de contato, ou j? possuir um banner promocional ou qualquer arte referente a estas empresas/comunidades/projetos enviem para mim no e-mail: br4in5t0rmm at gmail.com Estou levantando um banco de imagens para disponibilizar logo mais na se??o de arquivos do grupo para que os diagramadores possam utilizar nos artigos. N?o mandem as imagens(arquivos) para a nossa ?rea de arquivo para economizarmos o espa?o. Por favor, enviem o material de divulga??o solicitado para meu e-mail, ok?! Obrigado pela aten??o e apoio pessoal Erick Henrique Time de Arte Revista Fedora Brasil ----------------------------------------------------------- http://www.projetofedora.org http://www.mytoons.com/br4in *********************************************** DESIGN LIVRE *********************************************** <> From hellcomdev at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 13:52:53 2008 From: hellcomdev at gmail.com (RazGriz) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:52:53 -0300 Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re:_[Ambassadors]_Ajuda_material_pub?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?licit=E1rio_para_Revista_Fedora_Brasil?= In-Reply-To: <67d66b7b0807160650hb578c6egf13f3a6b44b2ed78@mail.gmail.com> References: <67d66b7b0807160650hb578c6egf13f3a6b44b2ed78@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1f0d49220807160652j21d5fcecw9daa3b370d963b7e@mail.gmail.com> Fala Erick, o H?lio j? preencheu os "buracos" hehehehehe acabei de saber pelo time da diagrama??o, mas posso conseguir da latinoware , conisli e congresso de software livre de brasilia, talvez do cesol. 2008/7/16 Erick Henrique : > Bom dia a todos > > Precisamos de ajuda para levantar sugest?es de nomes e obter > logomarcas ou banners das seguintes empresas, comunidades e/ou portais > de software livre para utiliza-los no preenchimentos dos espa?os em > branco que prejudicam o visual das p?ginas de nossa revista. > > Lista de fontes de publicidade para preenchimento de espa?os vasios: > > Empresas: > Mozilla Brasil > Red Hat Brasil > (sugest?es??) > > Eventos Nacionais e Internacionais: > Latinoware > Software Freedom Day > FLISOL > BlenderPRO > CONISLI > (sugest?es??) > > Comunidades e portais: > > Projetofedora.org > Softwarelivre.org > Safernet.org.br > Linuxchix Brasil > BR Linux > OLPC(One Laptop per Child) ? Brasil e Internacional > Inkscape Brasil > Comunidade CentOS > OGIMP > SNORTBR > (sugest?es??) > > N?cleos de Estudos de Software Livre (referenciando as universidades > que os mant?m): > > ???? > > > Precisamos de ajuda porque n?o possuimos os contatos com todas estas > empresas ou comunidades, portanto, se algu?m souber de e-mail de > contato, ou j? possuir um banner promocional ou qualquer arte > referente a estas empresas/comunidades/projetos > > enviem para mim no e-mail: > > br4in5t0rmm at gmail.com > > Estou levantando um banco de imagens para disponibilizar logo mais na > se??o de arquivos do grupo para que os diagramadores possam utilizar > nos artigos. N?o mandem as imagens(arquivos) para a nossa ?rea de > arquivo para economizarmos o espa?o. Por favor, enviem o material de > divulga??o solicitado para meu e-mail, ok?! > > Obrigado pela aten??o e apoio pessoal > > Erick Henrique > Time de Arte Revista Fedora Brasil > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.projetofedora.org > http://www.mytoons.com/br4in > *********************************************** > DESIGN LIVRE > > *********************************************** > <> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- RazGriz The Solo_-Wing. Diretor de Arte GNU-LIA--=www.gnu-lia.org 2 Tons Comunica??o Revista Fedora Brasil Portal O-Gimp -=-=:Quem constr?i a realidade ? voc?. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Brasil e Internacional >> Inkscape Brasil >> Comunidade CentOS >> OGIMP >> SNORTBR >> (sugest?es??) >> >> N?cleos de Estudos de Software Livre (referenciando as universidades >> que os mant?m): >> >> ???? >> >> >> Precisamos de ajuda porque n?o possuimos os contatos com todas estas >> empresas ou comunidades, portanto, se algu?m souber de e-mail de >> contato, ou j? possuir um banner promocional ou qualquer arte >> referente a estas empresas/comunidades/projetos >> >> enviem para mim no e-mail: >> >> br4in5t0rmm at gmail.com >> >> Estou levantando um banco de imagens para disponibilizar logo mais na >> se??o de arquivos do grupo para que os diagramadores possam utilizar >> nos artigos. N?o mandem as imagens(arquivos) para a nossa ?rea de >> arquivo para economizarmos o espa?o. Por favor, enviem o material de >> divulga??o solicitado para meu e-mail, ok?! >> >> Obrigado pela aten??o e apoio pessoal >> >> Erick Henrique >> Time de Arte Revista Fedora Brasil >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> http://www.projetofedora.org >> http://www.mytoons.com/br4in >> *********************************************** >> DESIGN LIVRE >> >> *********************************************** >> <> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > > -- > RazGriz > The Solo_-Wing. > Diretor de Arte > GNU-LIA--=www.gnu-lia.org > 2 Tons Comunica??o > Revista Fedora Brasil > Portal O-Gimp > -=-=:Quem constr?i a realidade ? voc?. > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. > > :::: CONTRIBUA COM O MEIO AMBIENTE. N?O IMPRIMA ESTA MENSAGEM ::::: > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaa at redhat.com Wed Jul 16 14:38:54 2008 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:38:54 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxWorld In-Reply-To: <487DB012.3040204@gmx.de> References: <875172fca2c23f81ddd458d877b60e94@mail.linuxdragon.net> <487DB012.3040204@gmx.de> Message-ID: <487E07FE.1030606@redhat.com> This is in the US and specifically San Francisco, CA. It is August 4-7th and I am organizing the Fedora presence there. Who else plans on attending? Is anyone interested in helping out at the booth? Jack wonderer4711 at gmx.de wrote: > Hy Charlie, > > in wich country? Do you have an URL to this? > > best regards > Henrik Heigl > // wonderer @ fedoraproject.org // > > Charlie schrieb: >> I plan to attend the LinuxWorld conference Aug 4-7. Who else plans to be >> there? >> >> -- >> Charlie >> >> >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 16 15:46:05 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:46:05 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador NA meeting minutes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/7/16 Greg Dekoenigsberg : > > Thanks for this analysis, Max. > > I humbly retract my libelous and ignorant statements about FAMSCO. That's > what happens when you don't pay attention over a number of years, and then > shoot your mouth off. > > Of course, we will need to make sure that NA understands how they fit into > FAMSCO, and that their voice is appropriately represented. Which is iWolf's > job, it seems, since he's the only NA guy on the list. > > IIRC, FAMSCO was open election. Is there any assurance of regional > representation? > > --g > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Max Spevack wrote: > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > First of all I want to answer the last question: FAmSCo election model is built to create a free, without border, worldwide Committee. I think if we close the election system with a "regional filter" we couldn't guarantee the global coverage. Imagine if we have one person for continent (or regional area): he/she will work only for their own area. With the actual system each member cover not only his/hers own area but the whole community, just because he/she is elected by the whole community. I think that's the right way to work, naturally this is my personal opinion. Move on ... I read the meeting log, and I've understand the FAmSCo roles is not well know. I personally thank Max for his explanation of what we are doing, and I personally apologize if what we are doing for the whole community wasn't clear. I just want to point to a clear/ self-explanatory sentence you can find in FAmSCo wiki page: We've got the resources, you've got the ideas. We are here, elected by the worldwide Ambassadors community, to serve this one. And our continuous efforts are directed to the community. When you talk about Swags, I think it could be a better idea to talk about resources. Each country has it's own necessities: after reading some emails and events reports I could say this is the right way. If we give you 100 DVDs and some t-shirts, yes, it would be a good marketing, but I think it would be better to give some $ and let you decide if it would be better to burn some DVDs or just make some cool USB sticks, buy some food or produce some cool gadgets you know your community would love. I apologize if I missed your past meeting (I didn't add it in my agenda), but I'm sure there are people with great knowledges like Jeffrey who is keeping FAmSCo updated with all is happening in NA community and it's a de fact point of reference for the whole community. If you read some FAmSCo meeting logs, you could notice that I asked if there were specific requests from local areas: this is an open space, like it happened for other situations fell free to "take the voice" and explain your reason, FAmSCo is here to heard your voice, first of all, and to help you whenever you want and wherever you are. Probably I missed some points, please notice me if this is true, if yes, I will here to complete my answer. Regards Francesco Ugolini p.s. I think this is the right place to thank Max for his great help with budget and for his words about FAmSCo. From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 16 16:11:21 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:11:21 +0200 Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re:_[Ambassadors]_Ajuda_material_pub?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?licit=E1rio_para_Revista_Fedora_Brasil?= In-Reply-To: <67d66b7b0807160650hb578c6egf13f3a6b44b2ed78@mail.gmail.com> References: <67d66b7b0807160650hb578c6egf13f3a6b44b2ed78@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/7/16 Erick Henrique : > Bom dia a todos > > Precisamos de ajuda para levantar sugest?es de nomes e obter > logomarcas ou banners das seguintes empresas, comunidades e/ou portais > de software livre para utiliza-los no preenchimentos dos espa?os em > branco que prejudicam o visual das p?ginas de nossa revista. > > Lista de fontes de publicidade para preenchimento de espa?os vasios: > > Empresas: > Mozilla Brasil > Red Hat Brasil > (sugest?es??) > > Eventos Nacionais e Internacionais: > Latinoware > Software Freedom Day > FLISOL > BlenderPRO > CONISLI > (sugest?es??) > > Comunidades e portais: > > Projetofedora.org > Softwarelivre.org > Safernet.org.br > Linuxchix Brasil > BR Linux > OLPC(One Laptop per Child) ? Brasil e Internacional > Inkscape Brasil > Comunidade CentOS > OGIMP > SNORTBR > (sugest?es??) > > N?cleos de Estudos de Software Livre (referenciando as universidades > que os mant?m): > > ???? > > > Precisamos de ajuda porque n?o possuimos os contatos com todas estas > empresas ou comunidades, portanto, se algu?m souber de e-mail de > contato, ou j? possuir um banner promocional ou qualquer arte > referente a estas empresas/comunidades/projetos > > enviem para mim no e-mail: > > br4in5t0rmm at gmail.com > > Estou levantando um banco de imagens para disponibilizar logo mais na > se??o de arquivos do grupo para que os diagramadores possam utilizar > nos artigos. N?o mandem as imagens(arquivos) para a nossa ?rea de > arquivo para economizarmos o espa?o. Por favor, enviem o material de > divulga??o solicitado para meu e-mail, ok?! > > Obrigado pela aten??o e apoio pessoal > > Erick Henrique > Time de Arte Revista Fedora Brasil > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.projetofedora.org > http://www.mytoons.com/br4in > *********************************************** > DESIGN LIVRE > > *********************************************** > <> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Please if you want to send an email to Ambassadors list please write in English. Regards Francesco Ugolini From hellcomdev at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 16:15:46 2008 From: hellcomdev at gmail.com (RazGriz) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:15:46 -0300 Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re:_[Ambassadors]_Ajuda_material_pub?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?licit=E1rio_para_Revista_Fedora_Brasil?= In-Reply-To: References: <67d66b7b0807160650hb578c6egf13f3a6b44b2ed78@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1f0d49220807160915r58592e41q467ba488e3797ed8@mail.gmail.com> Sorry. 2008/7/16 Francesco Ugolini : > 2008/7/16 Erick Henrique : > > Bom dia a todos > > > > Precisamos de ajuda para levantar sugest?es de nomes e obter > > logomarcas ou banners das seguintes empresas, comunidades e/ou portais > > de software livre para utiliza-los no preenchimentos dos espa?os em > > branco que prejudicam o visual das p?ginas de nossa revista. > > > > Lista de fontes de publicidade para preenchimento de espa?os vasios: > > > > Empresas: > > Mozilla Brasil > > Red Hat Brasil > > (sugest?es??) > > > > Eventos Nacionais e Internacionais: > > Latinoware > > Software Freedom Day > > FLISOL > > BlenderPRO > > CONISLI > > (sugest?es??) > > > > Comunidades e portais: > > > > Projetofedora.org > > Softwarelivre.org > > Safernet.org.br > > Linuxchix Brasil > > BR Linux > > OLPC(One Laptop per Child) ? Brasil e Internacional > > Inkscape Brasil > > Comunidade CentOS > > OGIMP > > SNORTBR > > (sugest?es??) > > > > N?cleos de Estudos de Software Livre (referenciando as universidades > > que os mant?m): > > > > ???? > > > > > > Precisamos de ajuda porque n?o possuimos os contatos com todas estas > > empresas ou comunidades, portanto, se algu?m souber de e-mail de > > contato, ou j? possuir um banner promocional ou qualquer arte > > referente a estas empresas/comunidades/projetos > > > > enviem para mim no e-mail: > > > > br4in5t0rmm at gmail.com > > > > Estou levantando um banco de imagens para disponibilizar logo mais na > > se??o de arquivos do grupo para que os diagramadores possam utilizar > > nos artigos. N?o mandem as imagens(arquivos) para a nossa ?rea de > > arquivo para economizarmos o espa?o. Por favor, enviem o material de > > divulga??o solicitado para meu e-mail, ok?! > > > > Obrigado pela aten??o e apoio pessoal > > > > Erick Henrique > > Time de Arte Revista Fedora Brasil > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > http://www.projetofedora.org > > http://www.mytoons.com/br4in > > *********************************************** > > DESIGN LIVRE > > > > *********************************************** > > <> > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > Please if you want to send an email to Ambassadors list please write > in English. > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- RazGriz The Solo_-Wing. 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Frields) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:23:37 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador NA meeting minutes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1216232617.3795.139.camel@victoria> On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 17:46 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > 2008/7/16 Greg Dekoenigsberg : > I apologize if I missed your past meeting (I didn't add it in my > agenda), but I'm sure there are people with great knowledges like > Jeffrey who is keeping FAmSCo updated with all is happening in NA > community and it's a de fact point of reference for the whole > community. I think the only reason Jeffrey wasn't there was for urgent family reasons. I'm certain we'll see him after he returns. > p.s. I think this is the right place to thank Max for his great help > with budget and for his words about FAmSCo. Max's work as the de facto "Fedora CFO" is the definitive how-to for transparency. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From karlie_robinson at webpath.net Wed Jul 16 19:08:26 2008 From: karlie_robinson at webpath.net (Karlie Robinson) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:08:26 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassador NA meeting minutes In-Reply-To: <1216211531.3795.16.camel@victoria> References: <1216211531.3795.16.camel@victoria> Message-ID: <487E472A.9050108@webpath.net> Paul W. Frields wrote: > Karlie, given the above -- what would be needed for us to proceed with a > plan like this, from your perspective? > > We've replied to a couple of emails from David Nalley as he followed up on his meeting action item. I'd be happy to send you a copy of the off list discussion. I'm also planning on attending the next IRC meeting. > Here are some of the questions > that come to my mind, but feel free to add others: > > * lead time required > Obviously, the more discs you want, the longer the lead time. We can confidently do 100 discs with 24 hours turn around. With pre-planning we can get as many as 175 out in 24 hours. The good news is that we can get the graphics and print the disc well in advance of the ISO release and be ready to drop a significant number of discs on NA within a day or two of release. Printing is the most time consuming for us, but it's usually less critical and finalized long before you've got an ISO ready. > * minimum/maximum orders > We are a burn on demand company so the minimum is 1. We don't have a maximum, and can print burn any number of discs in house. > * setup fees > There are none. We're already creating Fedora discs for our customer base and the Free Media project. Besides, it doesn't take that long to get a SVG into the right format, nor does it take that long to run a checksum on the ISO. > * shipping costs > Based on weight. A large Flat Rate Priority mail box from the USPS is $12.50 and will hold up to 300 discs. > * artwork formats > Anything we can open with the GIMP is the right format. If the artwork is a JPG or other fixed format, we'd like it to be at least 1000x1000px. Square, and there's no need to block out the corners or the hub area. Hub is more important to be solid since we'll adjust the print settings to print the hub area. Though a blank circle in the middle doesn't look that bad. > * samples for quality checking > Once upon a time I sent a disc to Max and can certainly send you a sample. There are also some of you out there who have gotten our discs for Launch parties and other events, so you don't have to take my word for anything. In the mean time, you can visit the following links for actual disc photos. (note: we use a silver print surface that gives the colors a translucence that catches the light - thus, pretty in your hand but hard to photograph) http://on-disk.com/resale/data/files//iycc_printed-proof.jpg - Disc for Resale http://www.webpath.net/data/files//customwedding.JPG - from On-disk.com/custom http://www.webpath.net/data/files//mint_photoproof.JPG - the disc in this image was photographed and then mailed to Ireland. The Project impressions are discussed at - http://www.linuxmint.com/wiki/index.php/Linux_Mint_Newsletter_Issue_16 ~Karlie From fab at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 16 22:03:02 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:03:02 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors Meeting EMEA - IRC Log 2008-07-16 Message-ID: <487E7016.9010107@fedoraproject.org> HTML version of the log is here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-07-16/HTML_Log Raw log is here: Welcome everybody. Let's have Fedora Ambassadors Meeting EMEA. It's 20.00 UTC * spevack is here lets have it i guess a lot of ambassadors are around let's start...please state your wiki name please (aka roll call) RobertScheck MatthieuRondeau Max Spevack * stickster has changed the topic to: Fedora Ambassadors meeting stickster: hi! PeterReuschlein * stickster has changed the topic to: Fedora Ambassadors EMEA Well, wiki name? User:robert SandroMathys NihedMbarek FrancescoCrippa SebastianDziallas ThomasCanniot MathieuBridon stickster: thanks RichardRondu FabianAffolter I love seeing all these people here! MohamedElmorabity JoergSimon * stickster didn't clean up well after himself, sorry Uh oh, we left the coffee pot on, too. RahulSundaram FrancescoUgolini Holy moley, I wish this was the Docs meeting :-D cwickert Just a reminder. We'll still follow our meeting protocol to make this meeting quick and efficient. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol . Thank you I wish there were always so many ppl at our meetings ;) sorry, wiki name is not correct anymore but good to see that most attendees can remember the old style Now, please open our meeting page at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-07-16 for the agenda 1. News from FAmSCo i would like to pass the ball to fugolini because I was off the during the last month Thank you after fugolini, i will say a few words Hi spevack: thank you i don't want to discuss about budget BourdouleixSylvain personally i want only to underline the importance to have feedback from the community to better adress our work we discussed about the local situations, and i think it would be a great thing to know what you need and what you want to see from FAmSCo just this. eof ! spevack, please I'd like to add a little bit to what fugolini is saying. First of all, I think everyone in EMEA community should be very proud of themselves because you are setting an example for how to run an Ambassadors program in a large continent with many different languages and it is wonderful work. From the FAMSCo perspective, I want to mention two things: 1) We are in the process of making sure that we have a list of all the events that will take place from September - November so please make sure, if you have an event, or you know about an event, that you add it to the page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents 2) FAMSCo will be making another contribution to Fedora EMEA e.V. in August -- not sure what the exact amount will be yet, but probably 1500 - 2000 EUR fabian_a: should I talk more about Fedora EMEA e.v. now, or later? JonathanDieter we can talk later about Fedora EMEA ok, then as far as FAMSCo, that is all for me. EOF. Any questions or comments? ok, next kital: would you like to tell us something your work for the Ambassadors Membership Verification Service? kital: your work on that is *excellent* :) thank you so much +1 thanks for the flowers wait i had i had 227 Konversations since Linuxtag we had 148 Requests for membership eof kital: thanks ? bochecha, sorry if I am a bit late on this, but what exactly is this membership verification service ? eof ! kital, bochecha: this is simple the process to approve and guide new Ambassadors into the Probation Period and Membership eof anything else about membership verification? questions? no? * fcrippa_ is back... (sorry, umts connection....) next point...events bochecha: kital has done excellent work in helping to automate this process, and build infrastructure around it EOF' LUG Radio Live? sure This is a comparatively small event. I am giving one of the "keynote" speeches. it will be similar to the speech I gave at LinuxTag during our FUDCon because that message -- of how we build our community and prioritize the decisions that we make -- is one we are trying to spread I was hoping that JonathanRoberts would be able to attend the event, but it didn't work out. So there will only be a few other Red Hat people there, who are in the UK. but I will be representing Fedora and hoping to recruit a few new people to the project mostly, we are going to that event because the organizers asked me to speak. EOF spevack: thanks for the details FrOSCon 2008? I will write an event report for Fedora Planet and ambassadors list * spevack looks at red_alert :) hi guys, famsco meeting ? hi RodrigoPadula: Fedora EMEA meeting, actually RodrigoPadula: yes RodrigoPadula: no, ambassadors meeting me? uhm...I think there's nothing new on FrOSCon that's on on the mailing list. I hope the other organizers are doing something too ;) RodrigoPadula: ping fugolini in #fedora-mktg and he'll tell you about FAMSCo red_alert: ok, so let's talk about what needs to be done. what needs to be done? I won't be able to attend the event as I announced so I was hoping for the other owners (spevack and romal) to take over red_alert: I missed your announcement, I'm sorry. so, what needs to be done? We know that we have a speaking slot. you wrote the list what's needed yourself ;) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FrOSCon/FrOSCon2008#Needed i believe that we need to figure out what to do about some swag for the event. red_alert: obviously I am a bit confused tonight :) ok, so mostly the needs are swag I think you definately need an accomodation before anything else ;) red_alert: yes, that is true :) I wanted to ask in this meeting, either Gerold or kital, if we can make some shirts from a company here that we have used before? tshirts, maybe? I would like to pay for them from Fedora EMEA budget, and use them for various events but I do not have the contacts with the companies. and maybe other folks do? ! kital: go ahead! please! :) i will make it! eof kital: ok, I will send you email and we can figure out design, quantity, sizes, etc.? yes! ok. Great. Then I think we are mostly ok for FrOSCon, at least for this meeting. EOF eof kital: i will follow up with you tomorrow, ok? thank you guys fabian_a: you wanted to talk about Open Expo? in September after FUDCon the autumn edition of the annual Swiss open source event named OpenExpo will take place at Winterthur it's a small event with around 1000 visitors for detail check http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/OpenExpo/OpenExpo2008_Zurich if you want to join us, please drop me a line... ! GeroldKa, me wants to drop the line; I have 6 OLPC for you for OpenExpo and also from now until then with a small interrupt of two weeks eof GeroldKa: where did you get 6 OLPCs??? that is incredible GeroldKa: hello, by the way :) and also sorry for late I worked until now hi there max just as a sidenote: we don't have space at openexpo for 6 olpc with 6 olpcs we will ahve a problem with the space at ypur so called booth maybe we don't bring all 6 to Open Expo :) it`s up to you, but I have them borrowed (also for OpenExpo) if you don't want them ... but it's good to know that this machines are only 100 km away OK, no doubt I found some other guys who want to have them at that time fabian_a: FAMSCo will allocate official budget for OpenExpo in August, when FAMSCo makes all the budget planning for Q3 (September - November). But you know this since you are in FAMSCo ;) but it is an important event jan wildeboer from red hat will be there and several other Red Hat people there will be meetings about Open Standards, I think, that Jan will be in one of the things that I am going to try to do for all of us soon is get a list from Andrea Schneider of all the events that Red Hat Marketing is going to in EMEA, so that we can always know when there is overlap with Fedora Events. EOF in September there will be a lot of events...FUDCon, OpenExpo, PCL, GITEX, and on and on some more about events? ! ! (but MrTom first) MrTom, about the events, what is also important is to keep up to date the pages of the wiki. And I know for sure that it is a very difficult exercice. however it helps a lot to know who / what /when / why when FAMSCO is allocating budgets to your events, so please keep this in mind. Up to date pages is not useless at all eof spevack, I want to quickly mention FUDCon I will be updating the page in great detail tomorrow or Friday, before I leave for UK and LUG Radio Live https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConBrno2008 But we know that it will be in Czech Republic (Brno), September 5-7. Saturday Sep. 6 will be the most "important" day. Also I will be able to give hotel information soon. It seems very inexpensive, especially if people share a room. More information next week... but I hope that many people can go. We will do one FUDCon in EMEA every year. This year in Czech Republic. Next year, somewhere else! :) EOF also, there will be special FUDCon tshirts. EOF I prefer Switzerland next year +1 ;) I also offered you University of Basel as Event Place +1 +1 +1 Any time * stickster hits wrong channel, sorry ! fugolini, And maybe next year we will do that. The Czech Repbulic was chosen specially this year because it is very important that we involve the Red Hat engineers in that country more deeply in Fedora community. When we plan 2009 FUDCon EMEA, we will discuss all options for location. GeroldKa: any place we can get a relationship with a university is very interesting to me. we will be at a university in Brno also EOF I'd also know a company in Switzerland who'd help us with some money if we'd do it here. eof I think it would be better to chose a city near a cheap airport, I think we have to make a list of chear airline *cheap airlines by country and the countries they cover fugolini: +1 fugolini: great idea e.g. For Basel a flight in october cost 400? and to Brno? this means that if i book the flight in september it will cost 500? or Zurich? or Stuttgart? GeroldKa: Brno, direct flight 400, i think i'll take a cheap flight Mallorca from Wien or Prague ! eof spevack, I also will travel to Paris on August 2 to meet with MrTom and as many people from the Fedora-fr community as we can gather. (about 15) I am looking forward to that, because it will allow us to plan and discuss things in that country in great detail Aaarghs its 500 kms EOF from me anything else about the upcoming FUDCon? we are very glad you are coming spevack fabian_a: nothing else right now. I will email ambassadors-list when i have more updates Milanito: me too! spevack: thanks spevack: don't forget to mention the weekly meetings about fudcon ;) right. we have a weekly planning meeting on Tuesdays at 13:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting for FUDCon Brno red_alert: thank you :) EOF now...FAD EMEA spevack or red_alert please https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADEMEA2008 well, we wanted to get an idea of what people think red_alert: you go ahead :) how they liked/disliked about the last FAD EMEA near Basel at the German/Swiss border place, duration, topics, lodging, fun/fringe events, food, everything in order to make it even better this year, we need some feedback so please go to the event site that max posted above and tell us we'd also like to hear ideas about how to spend the budget...on travel, lodging, fun activities, ... hy if you have an idea in what city we could do it and maybe have good reasons to prefer that city - tell us what did I forget, spevack? there are several questions and items to comment on in the wiki page. feel free to leave your comments. red_alert: you got it all ! questions / comments right now? I thought you want to "rename my Baby" Max as: Fedora Activity Day GeroldKa: that is a separate idea, but it also uses the FAD acronym. I haven't had time to pursue that idea yeat s/yeat/yet MrTom: you had a comment? * wonderer1 raises hand ;-) about spending the budget, it always remains difficult to know what to spend it on. There used to have a discussion about financing lodging and not travel, so as every people are equal in the eyes of famso, however we are not equal in term of distance / travel and i think that we shloud finance traveling may I something ask. maybe I d wonderer1: go ahead so as to fight againt inequalities among us. Financing travel for the farthest pple, and lodging for the closest. eof wonderer1: you go, then I will respond to MrTom with my thoughts, and then see what other people think maybe i did'nt get a / the remindermail to this meeting. Or isnt there such a mail lets say hald a day before..?! wonderer1: that was a typo, a second mail was sent out fixing it. wonderer1: sorry for any confusion! spevack: Ok. because I did'nt get yet any Announcement Mail today. I think several days ago some goes over the list. Baut "today" (lets say "last reminder" ... I will check this next time ;-) Thanks. MrTom: I tend to agree with you. Speaking in general, when I manage the Fedora budget on the whole, I try to make sure that budget goes to the people who need it the most. I also try to make sure it is generally balanced, but if one person gets more support than another, it doesn't bother me as long as everyone is getting as much help as we can give them, and as they need. But I do not want to dictate policy for all of you. I think that it is necessary for us to first have a full balance of the money that Fedora EMEA e.V. has. ! we can add to that the money we know will come to Fedora EMEA e.V. from Red Hat and Fedora Project and then we can decide as a group how to spend it. one of the things I will also do in the next week or two is give a full Treasurer report for Fedora EMEA e.V. I have all the documents, I just need to go through them. EOF MrTom, or maybe decide of an amount of money to give to people to help them to come, and let them decide how to give it away eof is maybe there a statistic how much % on small / middle / big events was spend on travel, accomondation, food & drinks, merchandising, Fedore CD/DVD, etc.? wonderer1: can you please follow the meeting protocol http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol tnhanks ! GeroldKa, MrTom, I also thought about that idea but I personally follow the item the same amount for every attendee or at best pay the same amount for everyone for the room that fair to everybody and als transparent to everybody eof ! +1 spevack, wonderer1: we have some metrics. For LinuxTag, we have very detailed breakdowns of hotel cost, travel cost, food cost, etc. for smaller events, we tend to give some budget to the event organizer and let that person decide how best to spend it LinuxTag and FUDcon are special cases ! GeroldKa: I think transparency is the key. As long as we are transparent about where the money goes, people can make comments. I believe that with the Fedora Budget the last 2.5 years (or however long I have been doing Fedora), we are the most transparent of any Linux Distribution in the world, and we will keep doing this. Also with Fedora EMEA e.V. -- I am just a little bit behind :) EOF wonderer1, spaveck, yes thats what I mean. Can there be made some matrix as "if planing try 10% for boothrent, 25-30% travel, etc." so someone is new to that (espacially Ambassadors) can plan that. Then ther would maybe not so often be a discussion or confusion. I do planning on Europewide Events for several years but that is often planning on a small team. At bigger events that could help i Think. Also what MrTom says "on what i can spend wich amounT" etc. can better be planned and wonderer1: those are all good points. I can go back to the linuxTag budget and see what the percentages were. the Budget Plan someone gives to Fedora "I need xyz for this Event" could better verified and compared. that will give some idea eof EOF from me too. i will get back to you * fcrippa 's laptop battery is near to be dead... another 5-10 minutes... fabian_a: what else? next year, we have to pay for booth (at Linuxtag btw.) * kital has to go i guess we are done for today... we skip the "open floor" GeroldKa: We will factor that into budget GeroldKa: for next year's linuxtag GeroldKa: and you and i will plan in advance with andrea and marion :)_ fabian_a: I just want to say thank you for running the meeting, and thank you to everyone for coming! anything else? Any more questions or issues before we close this meeting? * wonderer1 claps hands * Sonar_Guy has quit ("Leaving") 5 4 3 2 can we consider 5-6-7 of September "official" and "definitive" date for FUDCon? fcrippa: yes (just in time :-) fcrippa: we have space booked at university in Brno for those dates acc. to spevack the date is fixed spevack: great! 1 0 reminder for everyone: don't forget to post your ideas about the upcoming FAD on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADEMEA2008 - we need your opinions! fugolini: we can organize our trip fabian_a: thank you! Fedora Ambassadors Meeting EMEA 2008-07-16 has been adjourned. Next meeting in August 2008. From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 00:41:52 2008 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:41:52 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxWorld In-Reply-To: <487E07FE.1030606@redhat.com> References: <875172fca2c23f81ddd458d877b60e94@mail.linuxdragon.net> <487DB012.3040204@gmx.de> <487E07FE.1030606@redhat.com> Message-ID: <7a0d56080807161741j375e2343n1bcceee84fde4d93@mail.gmail.com> I will be at LinuxWorld each day. I'd be glad to staff the booth when needed. Let me know how I can help. Larry Cafiero http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Lcafiero On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > This is in the US and specifically San Francisco, CA. It is August 4-7th > and I am organizing the Fedora presence there. > > Who else plans on attending? Is anyone interested in helping out at the > booth? > > Jack > > wonderer4711 at gmx.de wrote: >> >> Hy Charlie, >> >> in wich country? Do you have an URL to this? >> >> best regards >> Henrik Heigl >> // wonderer @ fedoraproject.org // >> >> Charlie schrieb: >>> >>> I plan to attend the LinuxWorld conference Aug 4-7. Who else plans to be >>> there? >>> >>> -- >>> Charlie >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From ahsan.jnl at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 04:17:28 2008 From: ahsan.jnl at gmail.com (Ahsan) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:17:28 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxWorld In-Reply-To: <487E07FE.1030606@redhat.com> References: <875172fca2c23f81ddd458d877b60e94@mail.linuxdragon.net> <487DB012.3040204@gmx.de> <487E07FE.1030606@redhat.com> Message-ID: <49d06cc40807162117u2723e81bw9fbf3d62a032b8b0@mail.gmail.com> Hey, Is it for ppl in NA only ?? Or can anyone participate ? -- Md. Ahsanur Rashid, Undergraduate Student, Level-4, Term-1, Department of Computer Science and Engineering (CSE), Bangladesh University of Engineering & Technology (BUET), Dhaka-1000, Bangladesh. Tel - (+88) 01715621323 Web: http://introspection.me.uk/ On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > This is in the US and specifically San Francisco, CA. It is August 4-7th > and I am organizing the Fedora presence there. > > Who else plans on attending? Is anyone interested in helping out at the > booth? > > Jack > > > wonderer4711 at gmx.de wrote: > >> Hy Charlie, >> >> in wich country? Do you have an URL to this? >> >> best regards >> Henrik Heigl >> // wonderer @ fedoraproject.org // >> >> Charlie schrieb: >> >>> I plan to attend the LinuxWorld conference Aug 4-7. Who else plans to be >>> there? >>> >>> -- >>> Charlie >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From red at fedoraproject.org Thu Jul 17 05:51:12 2008 From: red at fedoraproject.org (Sandro "red" Mathys) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:51:12 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAD EMEA 2008 - Help us improve! Message-ID: <487EDDD0.1010708@fedoraproject.org> Hi all! I was shortly speaking about this on the IRC meeting last night, but to reach the EMEA people who were not able to attend and as a little reminder to those who were participating, I'll say a few words here on the list too. This only affects you, if you're living within EMEA and actually plan to attend the FAD EMEA 2008. We need your feedback in order to make this a great event: Tell us - what you liked/didn't like about the last FAD EMEA (not to compare with FAD at LinuxTag, IMHO). - in what this city should take place. Basel and Amsterdam are in discussion already. Add your name to the list or add another city if you want. - what duration is best for you. Last year, it went from Friday evening (dinner) to Sunday morning (travel back after breakfast). - if you have a topic to discuss at the event. Please note, that we're very limited in time. - if you have an idea for lodging in one of the cities we might choose or if you have any idea how to save more money on this. - what sort of fun/fringe events you'd like to see or how you liked them last year. - what you think about food. Was it ok like last year? Do you wish to taste some local specialities of the city/country where the event takes place? - whatever else comes to your mind. Now, the mailinglist is ok to discuss this. But actually, we'd prefer if you state your opinions on the according page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADEMEA2008 Especially as for the city to choose, we'd need your name on the list on the page. same goes for the attendees. Thanks for your help! Regards red -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 259 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From gerold at lugd.org Thu Jul 17 07:48:13 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:48:13 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] FAD EMEA 2008 - Help us improve! In-Reply-To: <487EDDD0.1010708@fedoraproject.org> References: <487EDDD0.1010708@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <13291.217.162.12.42.1216280893.squirrel@www.gbc.net> > Hi all! > > I was shortly speaking about this on the IRC meeting last night, but to > reach the EMEA people who were not able to attend and as a little > reminder to those who were participating, I'll say a few words here on > the list too. > > This only affects you, if you're living within EMEA and actually plan to > attend the FAD EMEA 2008. > > We need your feedback in order to make this a great event: > Tell us > - what you liked/didn't like about the last FAD EMEA (not to compare > with FAD at LinuxTag, IMHO). ^^ come together and have at least one full day to work, discuss and plan together the next year WAS my main topic ... combined with a arrival on friday that we can start on Saturday morning and a "funny event" which has nothing to do with computers to take relationship to the "Ambassador family" in EMEA, to see, to hear how your counterpart acts and handles your speech, answer and your behavior is accepted or not ... Having a wonderful evening dinner together and if the time was not enough use the night and on sunday a breakfast with all and travelling home to your familys, work or whatever. This WAS my intention for the FADs (Fedora Ambassador Day) I organized the last two years mostly together with my swiss collegues which were much helpfull. > - in what this city should take place. Basel and Amsterdam are in > discussion already. Add your name to the list or add another city if you > want. > - what duration is best for you. Last year, it went from Friday evening > (dinner) to Sunday morning (travel back after breakfast). ^^ see my (personal) argumentation above > - if you have a topic to discuss at the event. Please note, that we're > very limited in time. > - if you have an idea for lodging in one of the cities we might choose > or if you have any idea how to save more money on this. ^^ Schloss Beuggen is always a posibility; combining old fashion (a castle) with modern guys (computer freaks) ... > - what sort of fun/fringe events you'd like to see or how you liked them > last year. ^^ We had a visit in a brewery, in a river power plant ... Personaly I put this point in secret, because this was my personal surprise for everybody which was announced on friday afternoon at dinner. Imho this is the point, which the organizer has to "surprise, surprise" us or the group who attend. BTW. first FAD were 7 attendees, last year (OK, the second in Rheinfelden as tradional) we were 15 which means increase of more than 100% af attention! > - what you think about food. Was it ok like last year? Do you wish to > taste some local specialities of the city/country where the event takes > place? ^^ I liked it, but I'm not all :-) But hopefully I got everybody satisfied with Cheese Fondue as a speciality from our area ... > - whatever else comes to your mind. ^^ Many, many, many ideas :-) > > Now, the mailinglist is ok to discuss this. But actually, we'd prefer if > you state your opinions on the according page: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADEMEA2008 > > Especially as for the city to choose, we'd need your name on the list on > the page. same goes for the attendees. > > Thanks for your help! ^^ no probs Regards Gerold From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Jul 17 12:35:42 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:35:42 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] FUDCon Brno Message-ID: Hi Ambassadors, For those of you who are interested, here is the information/signup page for FUDCon Brno: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConBrno2008 --Max From fab at fedoraproject.org Thu Jul 17 17:08:39 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:08:39 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fwd: Programm OpenExpo 2008 =?iso-8859-1?q?Z=FCrich_ver=F6ffentl?= =?iso-8859-1?q?icht=5D?= Message-ID: <487F7C97.2070206@fedoraproject.org> FYI If you don't understand German, check out the following web page http://openexpo.ch/en -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Programm OpenExpo 2008 Z?rich ver?ffentlicht Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:37:33 +0200 From: OpenExpo To: Fabian Affolter English: The new OpenExpo program is published: http://openexpo.ch/en _______________________________________________________________________ Sehr geehrter Herr Affolter Es freut uns sehr, Ihnen heute das vollst?ndige Programm der OpenExpo 2008 Z?rich bekanntgeben zu k?nnen, die am 24./25. September 2008 in den Eulachhallen Winterthur stattfinden wird! Lesen Sie dazu und zu weiteren wichtigen Informationen rund um die OpenExpo den aktuellen Newsletter. Freundliche Gr?sse, das OpenExpo Organisationskomitee Matthias St?rmer Matthias G?nter Hannes Gassert Tonio Zemp _______________________________________________________________________ PROGRAMMVORSCHAU Mit renommierten nationalen und internationalen Pers?nlichkeiten wie Bruce Perens (Gr?nder Open Source Initiative), Peter Fischer (Delegierter Informatikstrategieorgan Bund), Stefan Arn (Pr?sident ICTswitzerland, UBS), Tristan Nitot (Mozilla Europe) und Harald Welte (gpl-violations.org) bietet das Konferenzprogramm reichhaltiges Expertenwissen in 40 Fachreferaten. In der Messeausstellung werden 20 Unternehmen ihre Dienstleistungen und Produkte basierend auf Freier Software vorstellen und Community-Mitglieder im pers?nlichen Gespr?ch Fragen zu 40 Open Source Projekten beantworten. http://www.openexpo.ch/openexpo-2008-zuerich/ OPENEXPO PROSPEKT Wiederum wurde ein Veranstaltungs-Prospekt gedruckt, der umfassend ?ber die kommende OpenExpo informiert: http://www.openexpo.ch/prospekt Dieser wird allen Newsletter-Abonnenten gratis zugeschickt, die bis am 5. August 2008 eine Schweizer Postadresse angegeben haben: http://openexpo.ch/newsletter/?k=d409648695c80da02d3fb95f84ca6c58 Ausserdem k?nnen jeweils 25, 50 oder 100 Exemplare des Prospekts kostenlos bis am 5. August 2008 bestellt werden: http://www.openexpo.ch/openexpo-2008-zuerich/prospekt-bestellungen/ SPONSOREN UND PARTNER Durch die wertvolle Unterst?tzung von grossz?gigen Sponsoren ist die OpenExpo weiterhin kostenlos zug?nglich f?r alle Besucher. Grossen Dank geht somit an die Platin-Sponsoren SyGroup www.sygroup.ch und Archivista www.archivista.ch, an die Gold-Sponsoren Red Hat www.redhat.de und Swisscom www.swisscom.ch sowie an die Silber-Sponsoren LIIP www.liip.ch, Ingres www.ingres.com und Sun Microsystems www.sun.ch. Ebenfalls hoch gesch?tzt werden die Partnerschaften mit zahlreichen Medienunternehmen, Verb?nden und anderen Veranstaltungen. Und last but not least soll der topsoft Messe f?r Business Software gedankt werden, welche die OpenExpo seit 2006 finanziell und organisatorisch gef?rdert hat. LETZTE FREIE FIRMENST?NDE Noch sind f?nf Pl?tze frei in der Firmenausstellung der kommenden OpenExpo. Der All-Inclusive Stand ist f?r CHF 3600 f?r beide Messetage zu mieten und kann reserviert werden unter: http://www.openexpo.ch/openexpo-2008-zuerich/anmeldung-firmenstand/ NETZWOCHE SPECIAL ?BER OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE Zum ersten Mal wird f?r die OpenExpo 2008 Z?rich eine Netzwoche-Sonderausgabe ?ber Open Source Software herausgegeben. Die Mediadaten geben detailliert Auskunft ?ber diese Spezialausgabe, die dem September-Versand der Netzwoche beigelegt und an der OpenExpo kostenlos an alle Besucher abgegeben wird: http://www.openexpo.ch/openexpo-2008-zuerich/netzwoche-special/ NOCH 2 WOCHEN BIS ZUR HACKONTEST-VORSELEKTION Der von Google gesponserte 24h-Programmiermarathon Hackontest wird eines der grossen Highlights der kommenden OpenExpo sein. Bereits hat er international breites Medienecho ausgel?st, nahezu 800 registrierte Teilnehmer tragen aktiv zu einer spannenden Vorselektion bei. Noch bis am 31. Juli 2008 k?nnen Open Source Projekte eingetragen und Funktionalit?tsw?nsche eingebracht und bewertet werden: http://www.hackontest.org Pers?nliche Angaben ?ndern oder Newsletter abbestellen: http://openexpo.ch/newsletter/?k=d409648695c80da02d3fb95f84ca6c58 -- It's better to be free! | www.openexpo.ch | contact at openexpo.ch OpenExpo | Schweizer Event f?r Freie und Open Source Software Veranstaltet durch den Verein /ch/open | www.ch-open.ch -- Fingerprint: 2F6C 930F D3C4 7E38 6AFA 4EB4 E23C D2DD 36A4 397F Fedora always leads and never follows. From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 18:06:41 2008 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:06:41 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Lindependence and RMLL reports? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7a0d56080807171106i5731f398v9ee8596dcd3848b2@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > Over the weekend, two interesting events happened -- one was Lindependence > and the other was RMLL. > Hi, Max -- Sorry for being so tardy, but two of the three Lindependence events took place on July 13 and July 15 at the Felton Presbyterian Church in Felton, California. For a very short recap of the project, Lindependence is introducing GNU/Linux to the town of Felton during the month of July, and part of the project is to have volunteers go Microsoft-free for a week with the hope they will go proprietary free forever :-) Four major distros -- Fedora, Mandriva, Ubuntu and Debian -- had representatives at the meetings, as well as OpenOffice.org You can find the site at http://www.lindependence.net or my running diary at http://lin08.wordpress.com The third event is scheduled for July 26, as part of a day-long activities in the town celebrating the purchase of their waterworks from a multinational corporation (a long story here). In any case, about 150 people came on Sunday (July 13) and perhaps the most interesting facet of the project was that people were asking to have their laptops and desktops converted from Windows -- they had had enough of Microsoft and they were looking for something new. Around 10 people left with GNU/Linux on their computers -- mostly Ubuntu, unfortunately for us (more on this later) -- which personally I found astounding. Frankly, I thought people would be apprehensive, but there was such a groundswell against the Redmond product that it was awe-inspiring. While I was doing most of the oversight of the project as its organizer, I also represented Fedora and answered questions, showed Fedora 9 on both a iBook G3 and a Dell 5000 Inspiron laptop, and I handed out some live CDs -- the live CDs were from the Cabrillo College GNU/Linux Users Group -- with my card in case they needed support. Were I not responsible for the entire event, I would have had more time to represent Fedora solely, and Frank Turner of Cabrillo GLUG helped at the table. While we handed out a significant number of live CDs -- 20-30 by my estimation -- I don't think any of the computers that left the building on Sunday had Fedora on them. On Tuesday, about 50 people showed up to check out GNU/Linux, and with it being more low-key, I was able to talk about Fedora more with folks who attended, giving away a significant number of live CDs. The tone was pretty much the same: We've had enough of Windows -- we want a change. Again, one of the things about this project that is very surprising is that people are really fed up with Windows, to the point where they don't even want to consider dual-booting or just trying Linux from a live CD -- many people wanted to "get this s**t off my machine" (and you know, of course, what they're talking about) and install Linux straight away and have it solely as their operating system. So on the whole this event so far has been a success, and I am hoping that Fedora benefits from its participation. For the 26th, I'm going to call out Karsten Wade publicly: Karsten, I really need help on the 26th, and I'm inviting any other ambassador who is nearby to come to Felton (just over the hill from Silicon Valley) to represent Fedora. We're out of live CDs and have no other materials to offer, and as the organizer of this event, I will not be able to give the Fedora table the attention it deserves. If you're still awake at this point, thank you for reading all the way through. Larry Cafiero http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Lcafiero From tushar.neupaney at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 05:50:37 2008 From: tushar.neupaney at gmail.com (Tushar Neupaney) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:35:37 +0545 Subject: [Ambassadors] Workshop in Dharan for Linux Help Wanted! Message-ID: <1216360237.7857.10.camel@tushar-laptop> ?Dear Friends, As you all might know, we here at Dharan are planning for a workshop on Linux. We would also like to keep some programming sessions and much more. Things are yet to be finalized. But we would like your inputs. Please view our site and comment. www.workshopdharan.wordpress.com (Website) http://wiki.fossnepal.org/index.php?title=Training_on_FOSS_ at _BPKIHS (Wiki at FOSS-Nepal) Please comment and help us build the pillars for tomorrow. Tushar From empoweringlinux at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 20:00:04 2008 From: empoweringlinux at gmail.com (Sri Ram) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:30:04 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self-Introduction Message-ID: <2d2e2de00807181300h4363035cm94c7774892afb1c@mail.gmail.com> Hi friends, I am going to introduce my self to the open world. Name : Sriram LUG : Empowering Linux Location : Tamilnadu, India. Occupation : Student. Goal : I am going to spread the word 'Fedora' and the power of opensource among the world with the help of all fedora peoples. My Projects : LTSP and Fedora IRC Nickname : emplinux -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Imagination encircles the world. --- Albert Einstein Imagination is the mother of creativity --- D.Tamal 2008/7/19 Sri Ram : > Hi friends, > I am going to introduce my self to the open world. > Name : Sriram > LUG : Empowering Linux > Location : Tamilnadu, India. > Occupation : Student. > Goal : I am going to spread the word 'Fedora' and the power of opensource > among the world with the help of all fedora peoples. > My Projects : LTSP and Fedora > IRC Nickname : emplinux > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When i rest everybody stare. ------ Sri Ram wrote: > Hi friends, > I am going to introduce my self to the open world. > Name : Sriram > LUG : Empowering Linux > Location : Tamilnadu, India. > Occupation : Student. > Goal : I am going to spread the word 'Fedora' and the > power of opensource among the world with the help of all fedora peoples. > My Projects : LTSP and Fedora > IRC Nickname : emplinux > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When i rest everybody stare. ------ shady saliby wrote: > > > http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=9370&tag=nl.e019 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From linux.charged at gmail.com Sat Jul 19 05:48:03 2008 From: linux.charged at gmail.com (Junior Tomazelli) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:48:03 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self-Introduction In-Reply-To: <1216439194.18684.0.camel@caleuche> References: <2d2e2de00807181300h4363035cm94c7774892afb1c@mail.gmail.com> <1216439194.18684.0.camel@caleuche> Message-ID: Welcome. :D -- Wolnei C?ndido Tomazelli Junior (Charged) Embaixador do Fedora Designer e Consultor de TI E-mail : linux.charged at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Sat Jul 19 07:03:10 2008 From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:03:10 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self-Introduction In-Reply-To: <2d2e2de00807181300h4363035cm94c7774892afb1c@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d2e2de00807181300h4363035cm94c7774892afb1c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 7/19/08, Sri Ram wrote: > > Hi friends, > I am going to introduce my self to the open world. > Name : Sriram > LUG : Empowering Linux > Location : Tamilnadu, India. > Occupation : Student. > Goal : I am going to spread the word 'Fedora' and the power of opensource > among the world with the help of all fedora peoples. > My Projects : LTSP and Fedora > IRC Nickname : emplinux Nice intro. Welcome SriRam -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Regards mak ----------------------- Hacking is good Hackers human -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From romal at fedoraproject.org Sat Jul 19 08:49:42 2008 From: romal at fedoraproject.org (Robert M. Albrecht) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:49:42 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fwd: [FrOSCon-Exhibitors] Infomail 1 =?iso-8859-1?q?f=FCr_Ausste?= =?iso-8859-1?q?ller_auf_der_FrOSCon_2008=5D?= Message-ID: <4881AAA6.5010302@gmail.com> Hi, a) anyone who attends, please add (or remove) yourself to the wiki-page. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FrOSCon/FrOSCon2008 I have to order the exhibitor-tickets in the next days. b) Froscon arranged for a hotel. If you whish to stay (single or doubleroom) there, please add yourself to the wiki-page, so I can order the rooms. c) There is a social event. Tickets have to be order per project. If you want a ticket, add yourself to the wiki-page. cu romal -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [FrOSCon-Exhibitors] Infomail 1 f?r Aussteller auf der FrOSCon 2008 Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:41:27 +0200 From: exhibitors at lists.froscon.de Reply-To: Aussteller at froscon.de To: exhibitors at lists.froscon.de Liebe Aussteller, mit dieser E-Mail m?chte ich Euch ein paar wichtige Information f?r die FrOSCon 2008 an die Hand geben. Punkte: 1. ?bernachtungen 2. Verpflegung w?hrend der Konferenz 3. Ausstellerausweise 4. Auf- und Abbau 5. Verlinkung auf FrOSCon.de und FrOSCon.org 6. Social Event 1. ?bernachtungen Wie im letztem Jahr war es uns diesmal wieder m?glich das Hotel - Regina zu mieten. Das bedeutet konkret, dass ihr ?ber uns ein Zimmer buchen k?nnt. Die Zimmer werden wieder von uns subventioniert. Die Preise sind wie folgt und inkl. Fr?hst?ck: 30 Euro pro Nacht, wenn ihr ein Einzelzimmer haben m?chtet 20 Euro pro Nacht, wenn ihr bereit seid, in einem Doppelzimmer zu ?bernachten und Euch das Zimmer mit jemandem teilt. Die Preise gelten f?r ?bernachtungen am Freitag und Samstag. Das Geld ist in Bar auf der FrOSCon abzugeben, dort bekommt ihr auch eure Eintrittskarten. Essen und Anreise am Freitag. Das Hotel hat uns angeboten am Freitag Abend von 20:30 bis 23:30 Uhr Abendessen nach Tageskarte anzubieten. Um die Planung zu vereinfachen, w?re es sch?n, wenn ihr uns kurz eine R?ckmeldung gebt, wer das nutzen m?chte. Ebenfalls hat das Debianforum einen sehr g?nstigen Campingplatz in der N?he der FrOSCon aufgetan. Wem das gef?llt, kann hier mal schauen. http://debianforum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=100593 2. Verpflegung w?hrend der Konferenz F?r alle Aussteller, Speaker und Helfer bieten wir in diesem Jahr wieder Verpflegung an. Die Verpflegung sieht wie folgt aus: - Sa. und So. von ca. 09:30 bis 17:00 belegte Br?tchen und andere Snacks. - Sa. und So. von ca. 11:00 bis 13:00 Uhr gibt es warmes Essen. Wir werden auch wieder Essen f?r Vegetarier zur Verf?gung stellen. Zus?tzlich zum Essen gibt es wieder Getr?nke (Schorlen, Wasser etc.). Das Essen und auch die Getr?nke d?rfen nur im vorgesehen Raum verzehrt werden. F?r die, die am Stand trinken m?chten, haben wir wieder unseren Verkaufstand, an dem ihr g?nstig Getr?nke erwerben k?nnt. Um an der Verpflegung teilnehmen zu k?nnen, ben?tigt ihr Ausstellerausweise. Diese bekommt ihr selbstverst?ndlich kostenlos von uns. Details. s.h. Punkt 3 3. Ausstellerausweise Damit wir Ausstellerausweise zur Verf?gung stellen k?nnen, ben?tigen wir, bis sp?testens zum 07.08., von jedem Aussteller eine vollst?ndige Liste, mit Vor- und Nachname, von jeder Person, die einen Ausstellerausweis haben m?chte. Da wir im letzten Jahr einige Problem mit Leuten hatten, die der Meinung waren, sie m?ssten auf einer Ausstellerliste stehen, bitte ich Euch darauf zu achten, das wir eure E-Mail best?tigen. Am besten bringt auch jeder die E-Mail mit. Wir k?nnten uns ja auch vertun. Sollte jemand berechtigter Weise nicht auf der Liste stehen, muss er Eintritt bezahlen. Wir verbuchen das dann unter "Spende wegen Verpeilungsfaktor". Da uns ein Ausstellerausweis wegen der Verpflegung viel Geld kostet, bitten wir die Verantwortlichen bewusst mit der Verteilung der Tickets umzugehen. Sollten einzelne bereits Speaker, Medienpartner, Helfer etc. sein, ben?tigen wir den Namen nicht mehr. 4. Auf- und Abbau Der Aufbau ist Freitags von 12:00 Uhr bis 23:00 Uhr m?glich. Bitte teilt uns mit, wenn ihr schon Freitags aufbauen m?chtet und wann wir in etwa mit Euch rechnen k?nnen. Der Abbau ist am Sonntag erst nach Ende der Konferenz so gegen 18:00 Uhr m?glich! Wer vorher abbaut, wird n?chstes Jahr nicht mehr als Aussteller genommen. Im letztem Jahr war es sehr unangenehm, dass so viele so fr?h abgebaut haben. 5. Verlinkung auf FrOSCon.de und FrOSCon.org Bitte ?berpr?ft die Verlinkung sowie die Texte auf unserer Homepage: http://www.froscon.de/projekte.html bitte auch auch der englischen Seite! Bitte versucht im dem Text doch unterzubringen, was ihr bei uns machen werdet bzw. spezielles zeigt. 6. Social-Event In diesem Jahr wird es Samstags Abends wieder ein Social Event geben, zu dem ihr selbstverst?ndlich herzlich eingeladen seid. Es w?hre sch?n, wenn jedes Projekt nur eine E-Mail an uns schickt, in dieser sollte dann alles gesammelt stehen. Das spart uns Zeit, von der wir nicht genug haben. Bez?glich der Namensliste k?nnt ihr Euch ruhig bis zum 07.08. zeit lassen. Ihr werdet kurz vorher auch nochmal eine Erinnerungs-E-Mail erhalten. Wer allgemeine Infos rund um die Konferenz haben m?chte, kann sich gerne in unseren Newsletter eintragen, dort werden auch in K?rze unsere Keynote Speaker bekannt gegeben. Gr??e Volker und der Rest vom Orga-Team From lucas at cefetce.br Sat Jul 19 12:21:22 2008 From: lucas at cefetce.br (Lucas Saboya) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:21:22 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self-Introduction In-Reply-To: References: <2d2e2de00807181300h4363035cm94c7774892afb1c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: welcome aboard mate :) 2008/7/19 mak : > On 7/19/08, Sri Ram wrote: >> >> Hi friends, >> I am going to introduce my self to the open world. >> Name : Sriram >> LUG : Empowering Linux >> Location : Tamilnadu, India. >> Occupation : Student. >> Goal : I am going to spread the word 'Fedora' and the power of opensource >> among the world with the help of all fedora peoples. >> My Projects : LTSP and Fedora >> IRC Nickname : emplinux > > > > Nice intro. 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Thomas Canniot From kadionik at enseirb.fr Sun Jul 20 19:15:08 2008 From: kadionik at enseirb.fr (Patrice Kadionik) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:15:08 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] New ambassador introduction Message-ID: <48838EBC.1020505@enseirb.fr> Dear Fedora ambassadors, As a new Fedora ambassador, I would like to introduce myself. I'm involved in Free software and Fedora since several years but it's now I've decided to become a ambassador. I'll hope to help the Fedora project with different contributions: documentation, Install Party... Please find a resume. Sincerely Yours; Patrice aka eddy33 ========================================== Who am I? * Engineer from the ENSEIRB School of Electrical Engineering and Ph D. in Science from the University Bordeaux 1. After having worked few years in a software company, I am now a senior lecturer at the ENSEIRB School of Electrical Engineering (Ecole Nationale Sup?rieure d'Electronique, Informatique et Radiocommunications de Bordeaux). * I?m teaching mainly: o Digital and System on Chip. o Embedded systems design. o Embedded Linux and real-time. o Networks. * I am also responsible of the Embedded Systems option.. * My research activity in the IMS laboratory is focused on algorithm implementation on silicon for video compression and network routing in wireless sensor networks. Free Software, Fedora and I * In 1989, I?ve discovered UNIX when I was student. Linux has adopted me in 1997. * Defender of Free Software, I try to promote around me Fedora since 1997 (RedHat 5.0 at this time). * Since 1999, I'm particularly interested in embedded Linux, ie embedded Linux implementation in embedded systems. My contributions around Free Software * French fedora-fr.org Community * I'm trying to contribute to the french fedora-fr.org community: o I?m participating to the life of the forum. o I?m moderator of the forum. o I?m writing several tutorials in french language: Publications * I am writer for the french Linux Magazine. * I am writer for developpez.com. * I am chairman of the System/Embedded session since 2004 at the LSM (Libre Software Meeting). More infos here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:PatriceKadionik ========================================== -- Patrice Kadionik. F6KQH / F4CUQ ----------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +"Tout doit etre aussi simple que possible, pas seulement plus simple" + +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Patrice Kadionik http://www.enseirb.fr/~kadionik + + IMS Laboratory http://www.ims-bordeaux.fr/ + + ENSEIRB http://www.enseirb.fr + + PO BOX 99 fax : +33 5.56.37.20.23 + + 33402 TALENCE Cedex voice : +33 5.56.84.23.47 + + FRANCE mailto:patrice.kadionik at ims-bordeaux.fr + +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From armel.kermorvant at orange.fr Sun Jul 20 19:15:21 2008 From: armel.kermorvant at orange.fr (Armel Kermorvant) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:15:21 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] New ambassador introduction In-Reply-To: <48838EBC.1020505@enseirb.fr> References: <48838EBC.1020505@enseirb.fr> Message-ID: <1216581321.7859.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le dimanche 20 juillet 2008 ? 21:15 +0200, Patrice Kadionik a ?crit : > Dear Fedora ambassadors, > > As a new Fedora ambassador, I would like to introduce myself. > I'm involved in Free software and Fedora since several years but it's > now I've decided to become a ambassador. > > I'll hope to help the Fedora project with different contributions: > documentation, Install Party... > > Please find a resume. > > Sincerely Yours; > > Patrice aka eddy33 > > ========================================== > Patrice, welcome on board Armelk From linux.charged at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 20:17:29 2008 From: linux.charged at gmail.com (Junior Tomazelli) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:17:29 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introducing myself In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Welcome to side freedom of force. -- Wolnei C?ndido Tomazelli Junior (Charged) Embaixador do Fedora Designer e Consultor de TI E-mail : linux.charged at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <487CE4F0.1090202@fedoraproject.org> References: <487CE4F0.1090202@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Fabian Affolter wrote: > This mail is a reminder for the monthly ambassadors meeting for all > ambassadors from the EMEA region. Of course all other ambassadors are > invited, too. One of the questions asked me at this meeting was for a breakdown of what percentage of LinuxTag expenses were spent on different categories. Here you go: Lodging 50% Swag 40% Travel 7% Food & Drinks 3% The total budget for LinuxTag was $20,000 USD ---- In an ideal world, I think it would have been more like: Lodging 50% Swag 35% Travel 10% Food & Drinks 5% From romal at fedoraproject.org Mon Jul 21 19:06:50 2008 From: romal at fedoraproject.org (Robert M. Albrecht) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:06:50 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Workshop Creating RPMs Message-ID: <4884DE4A.1090105@gmail.com> Hi, if someone in northern Germany is around: the Linux User Group Oldenburg has a workshop for creating RPM-packages and submitting them into Fedora this week: http://wiki.ffis.de/Arbeitstreffen THe slides are on http://www.romal.de . cu romal www.romal.de blog.romal.de From gdk at redhat.com Mon Jul 21 19:16:52 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:16:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] North American ambassadors: new tasks page Message-ID: Hello folks. A simple page for tracking our todo items and weekly agenda here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica So, you North American ambassadors, feel free to fill it up for tomorrow's meeting. ;) --g From herlo1 at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 19:25:49 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:25:49 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] North American ambassadors: new tasks page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > Hello folks. A simple page for tracking our todo items and weekly agenda > here: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica > > So, you North American ambassadors, feel free to fill it up for tomorrow's > meeting. ;) > Greg, David and I have been working feverishly on the agenda. Its already taking shape here. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-07-22 Seems to me most of the Ambassador stuff is here and that page is just extra. Sorry if I'm stepping on toes. Clint From herlo1 at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 19:40:04 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:40:04 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] North American ambassadors: new tasks page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Clint Savage wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: >> >> Hello folks. A simple page for tracking our todo items and weekly agenda >> here: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica >> >> So, you North American ambassadors, feel free to fill it up for tomorrow's >> meeting. ;) >> > Greg, > > David and I have been working feverishly on the agenda. Its already > taking shape here. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-07-22 > > Seems to me most of the Ambassador stuff is here and that page is just > extra. Sorry if I'm stepping on toes. > > Clint > I guess I should clarify what I mean. The general Ambassador meeting stuff is all kept here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings And links and everything are already set up there for NA Ambassadors. We have our meetings times listed, etc, here. Like I said, I hope that's okay. Cheers, Clint From pcalarco at nd.edu Mon Jul 21 19:55:39 2008 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:55:39 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] North American ambassadors: new tasks page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4884E9BB.4070501@nd.edu> Thanks, Greg! I've added an item for the Fedora Ambassador polos and will give an update tomorrow. - pascal Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > Hello folks. A simple page for tracking our todo items and weekly > agenda here: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica > > So, you North American ambassadors, feel free to fill it up for > tomorrow's meeting. ;) > > --g > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From inode0 at gmail.com Mon Jul 21 19:58:48 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:58:48 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] North American ambassadors: new tasks page In-Reply-To: <4884E9BB.4070501@nd.edu> References: <4884E9BB.4070501@nd.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Pascal Calarco wrote: > Thanks, Greg! I've added an item for the Fedora Ambassador polos and will > give an update tomorrow. Which have arrived in my neck of the woods and are great. Thank you very much for doing all the work to make those happen in NA Pascal. John From romal at fedoraproject.org Mon Jul 21 20:34:02 2008 From: romal at fedoraproject.org (Robert M. Albrecht) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:34:02 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] FrOSCon budget and planning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4884F2BA.5010608@gmail.com> Hi, Max Spevack wrote: > 1) Who has the posters and booth decorations from LinuxTag? How can we > get some of those things for FrOSCon? Who has them ? Are they usable once more or should we order new ones ? > 2) Who would like to volunteer to get some stickers made? In particular, > I would like to see a good quality production of Nicu's sticker kit, but > I leave it up to the actual volunteer. Who produced the stickers for Linuxtag ? Any left or should we order some new ? > 4) Max will work with local folks (probably Red Hat Germany) to get more > Live CDs made, and also Tshirts. What to do for the tshirts ? Do we have to order them ? Where are they delivered to ? cu romal www.romal.de blog.romal.de From gerold at lugd.org Mon Jul 21 20:50:17 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:50:17 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] FrOSCon budget and planning In-Reply-To: <4884F2BA.5010608@gmail.com> References: <4884F2BA.5010608@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1216673417.2995.10.camel@F9NB.homenet.local> Hi, I got some things from Joerg for OpenExpo Bern in September, let me count and see what I have there and I will let you know the next days offline ... Regards Gerold Am Montag, den 21.07.2008, 22:34 +0200 schrieb Robert M. Albrecht: > Hi, > > Max Spevack wrote: > > 1) Who has the posters and booth decorations from LinuxTag? How can we > > get some of those things for FrOSCon? > > Who has them ? Are they usable once more or should we order new ones ? > > > 2) Who would like to volunteer to get some stickers made? 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Regards Francesco Ugolini From mike at miketc.net Tue Jul 22 06:34:35 2008 From: mike at miketc.net (Mike Chambers) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:34:35 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America: Last call for Fedora Ambassador Polos In-Reply-To: <1214548213.10144.4.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> References: <4863F703.9010805@nd.edu> <1214548213.10144.4.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> Message-ID: <1216708475.4219.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.net> On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 01:30 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 16:07 -0400, Pascal Calarco wrote: > > Hi folks -- > > > > This is the last call for the first round of Fedora Ambassador polos. > > Shipment is expected in the next few weeks, in plenty of time for fall > > cons and the October FUDCon. Please e-mail me off list if you are > > interested and want to order one with your snail mail address, quantity > > and sizing. > > > Cost: $42.40 each including shipping for sizes up to XL; $3.00 extra for > > 2XL and up. For orders of two polos, the cost drops down to $69.00. > > Payment is either via PayPal or you can send me a check drawn on a US > > bank in US dollars. > > I would like to order one of those shirts and will include my address > below. I am a north american ambassador, and want to try and show off > Fedora as much as possible. Not trying to rush, just checking in actually, but any word on when these have been ordered or time frame when they will? -- Mike Chambers Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc.. mikec302 at fedoraproject.org From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Jul 22 11:55:19 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:55:19 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] FrOSCon budget and planning In-Reply-To: <4884F2BA.5010608@gmail.com> References: <4884F2BA.5010608@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Robert M. Albrecht wrote: > What to do for the tshirts ? Do we have to order them ? Where are they > delivered to ? I am going to be getting in touch with Joerg to help order more tshirts for the event, which we'll pay for out of a combination of the Fedora budget and the Fedora EMEA e.V. budget. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Jul 22 12:13:14 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:13:14 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassador Day EMEA 2008 reminder Message-ID: Hi, As you all know, we are working on getting the logistics of the Fedora Ambassador Day EMEA 2008 finalized. FAD is meant to be a strategy and planning weekend (including some fun events) for the Ambassadors who want to volunteer to form the core leadership team for Fedora EMEA in 2009. There are 15 people signed up right now, which I think is a great number. However, only 13 people have indicated a preference for location, and only 10 people have indicated a preference for the date. I'd like the people who have signed up for the event, but who have not indicated their preferences for location and/or date, to please do so by Sunday July 27. Beginning next week, we want to start to make arrangements for lodging, which means that we will have to finalize dates and location. Thanks!!! --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Jul 22 12:15:35 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:15:35 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora Ambassador Day EMEA 2008 reminder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Max Spevack wrote: > I'd like the people who have signed up for the event, but who have not > indicated their preferences for location and/or date, to please do so > by Sunday July 27. Beginning next week, we want to start to make > arrangements for lodging, which means that we will have to finalize > dates and location. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADEMEA2008 I should have reminded folks of the link. ;) From nirmal.pathak at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 12:30:52 2008 From: nirmal.pathak at gmail.com (Nirmal Pathak) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:00:52 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Wish to Promote Fedora in Drupal Camp India. Message-ID: <7c9ab4ad0807220530h669acd0bifde9f0822158ebfa@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, There is 3 days seminar/camp organized by Drupal in Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India on 8-10th August 2008. Please check the link: http://drupalcamp08.drupalindia.in/ I wish to promote Fedora in this camp by running Drupal application on Fedora 9 in all computers meant for presentation in the camp. I would also like to distribute the Fedora 9 DVDs and Pens with Fedora Logo. I want to know is it legally allowed to have Fedora logo on Pens and DVDs which are meant for distribution for the participants. The participants count would be around 500 and I hope it would be good platform to promote Fedora and Open Source as a whole. I need your advice and help. Thanks & Regards, -- Nirmal D Pathak. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was born free! No Gates and Windows can restrict my Freedom!! Enjoy Linux! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stickster at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 13:01:31 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:01:31 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Wish to Promote Fedora in Drupal Camp India. In-Reply-To: <7c9ab4ad0807220530h669acd0bifde9f0822158ebfa@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c9ab4ad0807220530h669acd0bifde9f0822158ebfa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1216731691.13715.2.camel@victoria> On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 18:00 +0530, Nirmal Pathak wrote: > Hi All, > > There is 3 days seminar/camp organized by Drupal in Ahmedabad, > Gujarat, India on 8-10th August 2008. > Please check the link: http://drupalcamp08.drupalindia.in/ > > I wish to promote Fedora in this camp by running Drupal application on > Fedora 9 in all computers meant for presentation in the camp. I would > also like to distribute the Fedora 9 DVDs and Pens with Fedora Logo. > > I want to know is it legally allowed to have Fedora logo on Pens and > DVDs which are meant for distribution for the participants. The > participants count would be around 500 and I hope it would be good > platform to promote Fedora and Open Source as a whole. > > I need your advice and help. If you are distributing copies of the official Fedora 9 DVDs, you do not need special permission to use the Fedora logo on those DVDs. Anyone is allowed to put the Fedora logo on copies of the official ISO images they download and use to produce media. As for pens, there is an existing pen with the Fedora logo on it, and hopefully our APAC coordinator(s) can arrange with you to provide some of these if appropriate. As a side note, Drupal is superb! -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From inode0 at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 13:57:03 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:57:03 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America: Last call for Fedora Ambassador Polos In-Reply-To: <1216708475.4219.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.net> References: <4863F703.9010805@nd.edu> <1214548213.10144.4.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> <1216708475.4219.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.net> Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:34 AM, Mike Chambers wrote: > Not trying to rush, just checking in actually, but any word on when > these have been ordered or time frame when they will? Mine arrived late last week so it should be any day. John From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Jul 22 15:16:56 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:16:56 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] fudcon brno planning meeting log Message-ID: The meeting log from today is posted, and the action items list has been updated. We really need all of you to sign up for sessions, and help to spread the word in your local linux communities! https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConBrno2008#Information_for_Organizational_Team Thanks, Max From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jul 22 16:20:29 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:20:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] North American ambassadors: new tasks page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Clint Savage wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: >> >> Hello folks. A simple page for tracking our todo items and weekly agenda >> here: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica >> >> So, you North American ambassadors, feel free to fill it up for tomorrow's >> meeting. ;) >> > Greg, > > David and I have been working feverishly on the agenda. Its already > taking shape here. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-07-22 > > Seems to me most of the Ambassador stuff is here and that page is just > extra. Sorry if I'm stepping on toes. I'm happy to completely cede any "leadership" here. ;) The one thing you should consider: the virtue of having an "open tasks" page is that anyone can go to it, at any time, and see what's currently being worked on, and what the status is. Redoing that with a new page every week can mean a lot of churn. But that's my $0.02, and if you want to do things your way, so be it. :) --g From stickster at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 16:53:04 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:53:04 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] North American ambassadors: new tasks page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1216745584.13715.43.camel@victoria> On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 12:20 -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Clint Savage wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > >> > >> Hello folks. A simple page for tracking our todo items and weekly agenda > >> here: > >> > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica > >> > >> So, you North American ambassadors, feel free to fill it up for tomorrow's > >> meeting. ;) > >> > > Greg, > > > > David and I have been working feverishly on the agenda. Its already > > taking shape here. > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-07-22 > > > > Seems to me most of the Ambassador stuff is here and that page is just > > extra. Sorry if I'm stepping on toes. > > I'm happy to completely cede any "leadership" here. ;) > > The one thing you should consider: the virtue of having an "open tasks" > page is that anyone can go to it, at any time, and see what's currently > being worked on, and what the status is. Redoing that with a new page > every week can mean a lot of churn. > > But that's my $0.02, and if you want to do things your way, so be it. :) Yeah, I've seen that problem on other teams as well. A central task queue is really the way to go. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From david at gnsa.us Tue Jul 22 17:12:06 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:12:06 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] North American ambassadors: new tasks page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Clint Savage wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg >> wrote: >>> >>> Hello folks. A simple page for tracking our todo items and weekly agenda >>> here: >>> >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica >>> >>> So, you North American ambassadors, feel free to fill it up for >>> tomorrow's >>> meeting. ;) >>> >> Greg, >> >> David and I have been working feverishly on the agenda. Its already >> taking shape here. >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-07-22 >> >> Seems to me most of the Ambassador stuff is here and that page is just >> extra. Sorry if I'm stepping on toes. > > I'm happy to completely cede any "leadership" here. ;) > > The one thing you should consider: the virtue of having an "open tasks" page > is that anyone can go to it, at any time, and see what's currently being > worked on, and what the status is. Redoing that with a new page every week > can mean a lot of churn. > > But that's my $0.02, and if you want to do things your way, so be it. :) > > --g > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Tasks and agenda seem different and distinct. Tasks won't necessarily change on a weekly basis, and it's nice to be able to prepare what's going to be discussed. While there may not yet exist a task for one of the topics From david at gnsa.us Wed Jul 23 02:44:16 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:44:16 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassadors Meeting Log 2008-07-22 Message-ID: [20:59] Looks like meeting time, eh? [20:59] Or 3 minutes till? [21:02] Hello everyone [21:02] Hi Karlie [21:03] Karlie: hi! [21:03] Let the ROLL CALL begin! [21:03] --> vwbusguy has joined this channel (n=scott at 99-153-230-117.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net). [21:03] hehe, let's go so I can stop reading *the* thread [21:03] --> VileGent has joined this channel (n=notfred at unaffiliated/southerngentlem/x-2894754). [21:03] Sigh. Which thread is *the* thread? [21:03] hello [21:03] DavidNalley [21:03] JeffreyTadlock [21:03] JohnRose [21:03] JamesBenWilliams [21:04] Karlie Robinson [21:04] ScottWilliams [21:05] herlo [21:05] OK, that looks like quorum to me. [21:05] ClintSavage [21:05] I hear that folks have been working on an agenda. :) [21:05] yes we have... [21:05] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-07-22#Agenda [21:05] --> rislam has joined this channel (i=18ca3c75 at gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f0cf5399dddca584). [21:06] So. Who's our chair for tonight? herlo or ke4qqq? :) [21:07] (Since I may get kicked out of here, and the meeting must proceed whether I am here or not) [21:07] lol, I think its a combined effort [21:07] gregdek: keep leading, herlo can take over if you fall out. [21:07] ke4qqq started the discussion, and I ended it... [21:07] All right. [21:07] So it looks like the first item is reports on last week's action items. [21:08] My page: [21:08] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica [21:08] This is the page I set up for task tracking. Is it useful? [21:08] Should it move to another url? [21:09] I prefer NA, but otherwise, yes [21:09] it's useful. [21:09] Its perfect to track everything in one page with task.. its helpful [21:10] i agree with helpful [21:10] but FF can type it in for me so... [21:10] Then it appears that we've got two completed tasks -- completion of the page itself :) and the polo shirts. [21:10] But new tasks, we have none. [21:10] So I guess we'll be adding some of those after the meeting, yes? [21:10] one would assume. [21:10] * herlo points to the agenda and what will come out of it though... [21:10] +1 [21:12] OK. [21:12] So then we're done with that. [21:12] Next on the agenda: [21:12] Proposed NA structure and goals. [21:12] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/NA/Goals [21:13] I think the main focus we had from a discussion between ke4qqq and I, was that the leadership should be merit based. [21:14] To invoke that merit, however, needs to be enticed a little. [21:14] so those who are here today, have a definite piece of the construction of how NA Ambassadors comes to be [21:15] per our discussion, we've divided NA into 3 main regions, hoping to get an active Ambassador in each state/province [21:15] yes - and that we aren't suggesting that this is fixed in stone - but these were the non-RH employees that showed up at the last meeting and we built it from that - and essentially that someone needs to take ownership of whats going on in a region. [21:16] i think the regional leaders assigned are fine, fedora is all about people that do the work leading the way, so I don't see objections over the regional leaders chosen. [21:16] +1 [21:16] +1 [21:17] one thing we did want to discuss was that we really need a regional ambassador for Canada as its pretty big. [21:17] question is, do we have any Ambassadors in Canadia? [21:17] but the regional leaders should be little bit aggresive to get connected with all the ambassadors [21:17] and we dumped it John Rose if no one from Canada wants to pick it up. [21:17] rislam: we agree [21:17] for all of yours kind info.. in canada we are only 8 people [21:17] that's the regional leaders pov too [21:17] rislam: we plan on it - we've already divied up names and will start hitting ambassadors based on region asap [21:18] 8 are listed [21:18] rislam: you are the new Canadian regional ambassador? [21:18] yes [21:18] yes i am [21:18] most of them working with redhat and they are pretty busy [21:18] * herlo needs a bit of curiosity as to where to find these names? I'm not that versed in this information gathering you all seem to have [21:19] rislam: perfect! [21:19] the country list off the main ambassador page [21:19] herlo: it's in the country section, but iirc there were more than 8. [21:19] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList#Northern_America [21:19] herlo: ^^^ [21:19] * herlo looks [21:19] oh, perfect! [21:19] * herlo bookmarks the page [21:20] now that isn't entirely accurate, it depends on the ambassador to add themselves to that page. [21:20] but its a good start. [21:20] sure, that's good enough for me [21:21] herlo: did you get the list of ambassadors I sent divided by region? [21:21] iWolf: well, I'm on there :) so I must have known about it at some point [21:21] herlo: :) [21:21] ke4qqq: when did you send it? [21:21] two days ago [21:21] i will be back all of u [21:21] ke4qqq: looking, but I don't recall that. Doesn't mean I didn't miss it [21:21] <-- rislam has left this channel. [21:22] we can be very flexible about this, if more folks come forward we can rearrange things to accommodate [21:22] I think this is ok to get us started now [21:22] --> lcafiero has joined this channel (n=larry at h-68-165-6-167.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net). [21:22] So is this list accurate at this point, and all agree to it? [21:22] ke4qqq: found it [21:22] inode0: agreed, flexibility is good, and this is a good start to move forward. [21:22] but I don't want to get too bogged down - essentially this is very much in motion and will get us started - start by taking ownership of what's going on. [21:22] ke4qqq: +1 [21:23] agreed, plus we can start contacting individuals. the biggest thing for me is to get them involved and keep them involved, which brings me to our responsibilities [21:24] Does "contacting individual ambassadors" get added to the TODO? [21:24] Yes! [21:24] what is the contact message going to be? [21:24] so the thing I'm looking at is activities. There's been heavy discussion between ke4qqq and I about getting these people involved with their local LUGs and other activities. [21:25] and keeping them involved [21:25] the thing I continue to be hung up on, is how we entice them. I think there's a bit of give and take [21:25] side note, the discussions should probably take place on the ambassadors m-l, so eveyone can offer input, might be a good way to find other active NA ambassadors. [21:25] agreed. lets do that there then... [21:25] * herlo hadn't even thought of that. [21:26] --> rislam has joined this channel (i=4546a17e at gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-d5d2277b1a63cb13). [21:26] * gregdek goes to add to the TODO while discussion continues... [21:26] * inode0 wants to push ambassadors partnering with charities to do good things [21:26] iWolf - that essentially we want to stop the drifting - we want to take ownership, and we are the 'regional ambassadors, please tell us what we can do to spur things on. Ask them to get involved, speak at lugs, provide reports of said things, etc. [21:26] but I'd like to point out that if we do a little for the ambassadors up front (new or re-invigorated ones), we help them to feel more a part of the fedora team [21:26] * inode0 also wants to nudge Fedora to in some way sponsor those activities [21:27] * herlo agrees totally with inode0 [21:27] which is where the give and take comes in [21:27] ke4qqq: sounds like a good contact message. +1 [21:27] Time to have the famsco budget discussion. :) [21:27] sponsorship doesn't necessarily mean money in these cases [21:27] gregdek: no, we just want it all :) [21:28] inode0: I think it does to a point, but it shouldn't be a heavy investment [21:28] the proof is in the reports (aka blog posts, pictures, etc) [21:28] we do need to define our relationship with FAMSCo ...... most of us kind of ignore them and back channel to gregdek or spevack. [21:29] Which, as has been pointed out to me rigorously, is a mistake. :) [21:29] which isn't healthy for FAMSCo or for showing that we are doing anything [21:29] okay, so I think there's a divergence of thought here [21:29] Fedora lending its name to an effort is valuable on the local level - don't underestimate that [21:29] one is, getting to the discussion of FAMSco and the other is to discuss how we invigorate ambassadors [21:29] which one should we tackle first? [21:30] the latter. [21:30] well having meetings at time that all ambassadors are not in the middle of work hours helps i think like tonights [21:30] indeed. [21:31] so, I was pointing out that if we make a small investment in the ambassadors, we can see the returns more quickly. Something like giving them a tshirt and some LiveCDs. They wear the t-shirt or give it away... [21:31] when they blog about it or put up pictures, that's our reward, then we invest a little more [21:31] annouceing such meetings in channels like #fedora #fedora-unity got me in here [21:32] the idea is to give ambassadors a bit of incentive to get started, then move them to a broader role (aka their State/area) would be a good win for Fedora [21:32] herlo: i agree to a point, but we do do this with ambassadors that step up to handle an event. [21:32] iWolf: right, I know [21:32] and those people should already be rewarded. [21:33] the biggest thing to get volunteers charged up is a task [21:33] herlo: and with limited funds, you have to ask which gets more bang for the $, swag to ambassadors that already use fedora or swag to potential new fedora users. [21:33] the work so hard to make events turn out nice, and I think they fit well in this scheme [21:33] * iWolf doesn't necessarily know the answer to that [21:33] iWolf: but it's an EVENT.....not a LUG meeting.....not talking to the Lions Club [21:33] Karlie: +1 [21:33] Karlie: right on! [21:33] people need something to do [21:33] ke4qqq: as in you mean we only provide for events? [21:33] I guess for me, until this past FUDCon, I didn't really feel like I knew how to contribute. [21:33] [Nick] Erroneous Nickname [21:34] ke4qqq: put the planned lug talk up on the events page, it counts. [21:34] iWolf: I mean that is what it's structured for. [21:34] I didnt really feel like I was Fedora (pardon the pun) [21:34] rewarding and encouraging small "events" is high on my wish list too - there should be far more of those [21:34] we (famsco) also pushed hard for release parties for f9 as well [21:34] agree with inode0 [21:34] small events belong on the Fedora Events page as well. [21:34] but I wanted to belong, be a part of this cool goings on. And while people say, just start doing stuff, I was kind of directionless [21:34] small events seem insignificant on the list - compared with linuxtag. [21:35] yeah we need to mentor people - be they old inactive or new. [21:35] its also part of reward iWolf [21:35] say I am in Ohio looking for soemthing Fedora going on, where do I look. I should be looking at the Fedora Events page. [21:35] to me, its getting people involved in the little ways [21:35] they belong on the events page but do they get put there? [21:35] inode0: no, they do not. But they should. :) [21:35] we can lead by example. [21:35] I was emailed personally by Max telling me not to give up on FUDCon and that they'd help me get there. This is the kind of thing that I want to give to ambassadors. Unfortunately, RH doesn't have money to fly everyone everywhere [21:35] so people don't get afraid to put their LUG event there. [21:36] iWolf: NO I disagree - you should be contacted by the OH state Ambassador and have him mentor. The ambassador who is mature should go out and find events to list on the page. [21:36] <-- fraggle_laptop has left this server ("Quitte"). [21:36] ke4qqq: and I do that. [21:36] iWolf: I think part of the problem is that people think a LUG event is significant enough [21:36] at least in NA [21:36] I don't doubt that you do - but no one did that with herlo or I [21:36] ke4qqq: I have actually touched base with herlo as well for his Utah event. [21:36] The events page, right now, is intended more for coordination. [21:36] ke4qqq: because I didn't think anyone else had. [21:36] iWolf: now I know who you are :) [21:37] herlo: :) [21:37] * herlo did a /whois on you last time with no good info [21:38] iWolf: and I agree on events, we should continue to spend money there, I just wnat to make it easier for Ambassadors to work simpler, easier crowds. [21:38] well if we found a way to exhibit pride in covering small local talks, even to 15 people, I think it would be good all around [21:38] * herlo agrees with inode0 [21:38] so how do you task an ambassador to talk to the lug? [21:38] herlo: I agree with making things eaier for small events, shoot, I agree with trying to make things easier for *all* events [21:39] give them templates to use? [21:39] and I guess we should shut up and do it, post them, let other ambassadors see we think they are important [21:39] Karlie: Templates for talks would be great. [21:39] Karlie: we get state ambassadors and have them go out, start small their local lugs [21:39] Karlie: you give him a slide deck and tell him to go talk - maybe go with him if you are close enough [21:39] inode0: an emphatic +1! [21:39] build confidence and 'ownership' [21:39] regional ambassadors might have to help them by sending a few emails around, mentoring isn't the simplest job, but I think its going to win out in the end [21:39] yep, we need to provide ambassadors with "starter" talks, slide decks, etc. [21:39] I just think that if they had some choices [21:40] lower that hurdle for an ambassador to do a local event. [21:40] pick a talk, go to a confrence, plan a party [21:40] help at an installfest and bring media [21:40] picking a talk isn't wise [21:40] regional ambassadors might have to make a trip a couple states away, and maybe that can be accommodated expenswise and maybe not, but there's room for us to figure that out [21:40] * herlo wants those 10 things written on our task list now :) [21:40] gregdek: ^^ [21:41] I guess I could put them there too [21:41] <-- qcai has left this server ("Leaving"). [21:41] but at least on the east coast there is an ambassador within 100 miles of virtually everwhere.....I know that isn't true in the rest of the country. [21:41] Not everyone would be cofortable in front of a crowd so plan a party instead - just do something [21:41] herlo: what 10 things? [21:41] gregdek: just kidding, there are only a few [21:41] pick a talk, go to a confrence, plan a party ldimaggi_ [21:41] 19:40 < VileGent> help at an installfest and bring media [21:41] Karlie: yeah not necessarily a talk - perhaps going to an Ubuntu installfest and offering an alternative? [21:41] or 10 in binary maybe? [21:41] ke4qqq: I think that's bad form. [21:41] * herlo disagrees with rislam about picking a talk not being wise. Simple talks are important [21:41] ke4qqq: just my opinion. [21:42] gregdek: do you want me to put them there? I can [21:42] herlo, my lug knows i will show up with fedora media [21:42] I've been to Ubuntu install parties [21:42] VileGent: yay! [21:42] Karlie: me too [21:42] I was actually invited to one to present fedora 2 months back - shocked me. [21:42] * herlo actually held a release party combined with Fedora and Ubuntu [21:42] herlo: Do it. :) [21:42] gregdek: k, will do [21:42] herlo, heck i show up at Ohio linuxfest with re-spin media [21:43] herlo, Hello? [21:43] * iWolf notes he did [21:43] have we hashed this enough for tonight?? or do we need more. [21:43] we need to come out of this with a task. [21:43] so... [21:43] I think a lot of ambassadors aren't well situated for planning release parties - I'd like to have a release party or a local talk be encouraged for F10 [21:43] we need to enable ambassadors to do this, host a small talk to a lug, etc. [21:43] TASK: stated regional ambassadors will contact ambassaodrs in their regions... [21:43] --> qcai has joined this channel (n=qcai at 60.247.97.97). [21:44] inode0: can you explain more? we posted tons on release parties for f9, what was lacking? [21:44] where can we (famsco) improve? [21:44] re: release party prep? [21:44] TASK: See if marketing/artwork will do us a nice slidedeck that's simple enough for a new ambassador to cover. [21:44] rislam: what is your wiki page? [21:44] I'm adding you to a task iydm [21:44] not lacking at all - but most ambassadors did not participate [21:44] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:RashadulIslam [21:44] ke4qqq: sounds good, I just want to be sure we have the materials to provide when we have excited ambassadors ready to participate. [21:45] perhaps they live in the sticks, so organizing one is non-trivial [21:45] inode0: could we have done better? [21:45] inode0: good point! :) [21:45] correction pls : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RashadulIslam [21:45] I'm trying to find a way more can participate in that celebration without having to throw a party is all [21:45] yeah - it's a phased approach, but we have to start somewhere. [21:45] rislam: k, I'll add you now, if you don't want it, feel free to remove it [21:46] its my pleasure, u go ahead [21:46] Maybe theres' too much emphisis on release - what about Fedora every day? [21:46] i love this idea Karlie [21:46] Karlie: I like that too, but I think we could start with releases and work are way to every day? [21:46] i talk with everyone about Fedora [21:47] NA Ambassadors can't take everything on at once IMO [21:47] Sure. Let's just not box anyone into a set criteria to help, let it expand [21:47] agreed, let's start by getting them to talk about Fedora one day, then we move to the next day :) [21:47] herlo: +1. :) [21:47] herlo: +1 [21:47] Ambassadors Toolkit is the new thing for us... [21:47] yeah we have to ramp up - contacting everyone we can do - [21:47] It doesn't hurt to have a long list of tasks, but it's important to block and tackle. Engage one set of work at a time. [21:48] *** stickster is now known as stickster_afk. [21:48] its something we can give out every release, LiveCDs (50 or so) and some simple flyers or something to give away [21:48] <-- KageSenshi has left this server (Remote closed the connection). [21:48] * herlo points to the task list, its on there now too... [21:48] it should be officially done by steering committee [21:48] we really should think about making sure that Ambassadors have the simple tools to share the Fedora Message... [21:48] Just that if someone misses an opportunity to party for a release, shouldn't stop them from going forward [21:49] arming ambassadors with nice media each release is good [21:49] Karlie: agreed, if they have a Toolkit, they should have everything they need to talk to anyone any day... [21:49] no, and we should supply every ambassador who asks for a minimum kit of media plus ?? [21:50] * herlo thinks there could be literature about fedora's features and other cool projects fedora is involved. however, I think that's a step two. [21:50] make that part of the 'mentoring'. [21:50] --> mccann has joined this channel (n=jmccann at ip72-192-42-200.ri.ri.cox.net). [21:50] Sounds like we need to discuss the toolkit with FAMSco? I think I saw that somewhere, rislam ? [21:50] herlo: that's what the messaging index exists for. [21:50] gregdek: point me... [21:50] * herlo knows nothing of this messaging index of which you speak. [21:51] by toolkit do you mean the eventbox or whatever it was called? [21:51] right [21:51] i think toolkit would be for each individual ambassador. [21:51] ok, most ambassadors don't quite need all that [21:51] simple though, just has CDs and maybe some other simple swag [21:51] i meant not toolkit but about the expense [21:51] event box is for an ambassador attending an event to provide a booth in a box. [21:51] giveaways, mostly [21:51] iWolf: yeah - simple - just CDs maybe stickers..... [21:51] rislam: right, that's why I asked [21:51] we might get a regional sign or something [21:51] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/MarketingPlan [21:51] ke4qqq: ooh, stickers :) [21:52] <-- Sonar_Gal has left this server ("Leaving"). [21:52] sure, ambassadors being armed with stuff is good [21:52] thank u herlo to mention abt the stickers [21:52] rislam: it was ke4qqq, but okay [21:52] * inode0 is arranging a boatload of buttons to share [21:52] ok - barring any opposition - lets move on - we are 52 minutes in.... [21:52] yep, and I have another meeting starting in about 20-30 minuts [21:52] Tool kit = how to get going. Event box = swag etc [21:52] ke4qqq: +1 [21:53] Karlie: +1 [21:53] Karlie: hmm, okay, I can go for that [21:53] +1 [21:53] +1 [21:53] +1 [21:53] moving on [21:53] CD handling [21:53] right [21:53] iWolf: we want to let Karlie and Co. handle distribution and mfg of all NA media [21:54] we'd like to have FAMSCo pay her directly [21:54] ke4qqq: when did we say we wanted that to start? F11? [21:54] we'd like to have it so that individual ambassadors. can order. [21:54] I thought F10? [21:54] okay, that's fine, can't recall. F10 it is [21:54] but I am worried about lead time - we have ~3 months left. [21:54] --> Sonar_Gal has joined this channel (n=Andrea at adsl-074-171-066-196.sip.aby.bellsouth.net). [21:54] that's not a problem [21:54] so far CD ordering has been one of those blackboxes, famsco sets money aside and then rh guys do it. [21:54] we could do it in a month [21:55] iWolf: we want to change that! [21:55] iWolf: I know - and that makes us go around FAMSCo to RH - which is a loser. [21:55] not that we don't like RH - but it undermines the community and the organization [21:55] we shouldnt have to rely on max and greg every time we need something... [21:55] herlo: :) , sorry, that was meant to say, there are more folks than just me that need to work that change through, not that it can't be done. [21:55] iWolf: you're the only FAMSCo member who showed up [21:55] iWolf: Oh I know, we had this discussion last week [21:55] * iWolf hides :-) [21:56] lol [21:56] I think gregdek and others agree in principle and I think we got some buyin from stickster [21:56] I can bring this up on the famsco list, Max is on that as well, so we can see what the options are. [21:56] TASK for iWolf! lol [21:56] I think from what gregdek said last week, its possible and probably even likely to happen. Timing is the biger thing I suppose [21:56] yep, I'll take it. [21:57] iWolf: I can put it on the list if you like... [21:57] we should thank him in advance for tht [21:57] herlo: if you could, that would be great. [21:57] np [21:57] Karlie and Todd sent a punchlist of what they need: I'll forward it to you iWolf [21:57] ke4qqq: sounds good. [21:57] Karlie: so you would ship to the individual ambassador? [21:57] * gregdek has been afk, reads back up... [21:57] yes [21:58] we can do individual orders as needed for events etc [21:58] Karlie: what's your company name again? [21:58] thats what they do for a living - so I imagine they can do it better than we can. [21:58] i have to leave all [21:58] webpath Technologies and On-disk.com [21:58] rislam: thanks for taking Canada [21:58] * herlo says bye [21:58] and it also makes it low additional work for us. [21:58] tnx rislam [21:58] do we know pricing for the media already? [21:59] thank u, its an amazing experienc while with Fedora and its community: its wide [21:59] <-- rislam has left this channel. [21:59] We're offering 50% off our list price for any qty for the ambassadors [21:59] $2 per CD $2.50 per DVD [21:59] vs 3.99 and 4.99 [22:00] Karlie: cool, thanks for the info. [22:00] np [22:00] not to be a troublemaker but is there a policy for source CD/DVDs with orders? [22:00] inode0: how do you mean? [22:00] inode0: we need to have the ability to provide source media at an event. [22:01] the way we work is that source has to be available somewhere [22:01] that is what I meant herlo [22:01] inode0: you can either burn it on demand or make a few before an event. [22:01] if it's on a mirror that's available. [22:01] iWolf: offer it burn on demand. [22:01] inode0: offer it burn on demand. [22:01] +1 [22:01] so we have tasked that item to iWolf ready to move on? [22:01] yep [22:01] gregdek: yeah, I usually have a few on hand and then the isos ready to burn more, but i like to be prepared. [22:01] well, if Karlie sends me 100 LiveCDs there is a known source source for me to burn that collection from? [22:01] ke4qqq: +1 [22:02] Moving on? [22:02] What's next? [22:02] * gregdek has lost track. [22:02] budget post F10 [22:02] inode0, yep its call ther source repo [22:02] swag [22:02] yep [22:02] what ke4qqq said [22:02] swag and budget post f10 [22:02] VileGent: uh, changes over time [22:02] no it doesnt [22:03] we'd like to separate the CD/DVD burning budget out from the rest of the swag IIRC [22:03] eventually we want to take it over - much like EMEA - we want to get people in Fedora bathrobes lol... [22:03] ok [22:03] yay, fedora bathrobes [22:03] and yes spread it out [22:03] though we toyed with the Fedora Toga idea [22:03] * inode0 doesn't wear togas [22:04] * herlo would if it had a Fedora logo on it :) [22:04] so long term we need to find a vendor(s) and how to handle swag distribution so we can have nicer swag and not depend on RH (read: max and greg) to ship us stuff. [22:05] we have a vendor here in ohio that has made some excellent quality t-shirts and made the polos for us. [22:05] one thing I think this implies is that we have a budget for this separate and in a more long term way from the media creation [22:05] we could certainly have more than one vendor if needed though. [22:05] and probably not one-off. [22:05] iWolf: that complicates management though. [22:05] distribution is always the thornier part of this [22:05] iWolf: it seems to be that we could have one vendor, but if need be we could increase in time [22:05] Amb. A. need 5 shirts from place 1, and 50 stickers from place b? [22:06] that's where regional ambassadors come in. Which is why my argument will be that they don't go away, just cover less and less area ove rtime [22:06] but I think we will really need to prove ourselves to get that - so it's longer term and we really just want to get the idea out there. [22:06] ke4qqq: this is where it gets tricky. 5 shirts costs more per shirt than 100 shirts. [22:06] ke4qqq: so, we need a way to address that issue, plus the distribution cost. [22:06] iWolf: right, which means we need some central points of distribution [22:06] yep - which is why we'll probably have regional orr state distritbution. [22:07] * herlo agrees +1 [22:07] but again we just want to 'stake our claim' a bit ahead of time - we couldn't handle it today if we had to. [22:07] state is apt to lead to high production costs, lower distribution costs. I am thinking regional will be the sweet spot. [22:07] iWolf: probably so [22:08] iWolf: agreed [22:08] moving on: [22:09] what we need is a good request system - so we can order when we have sufficient demand [22:09] inode0: yep [22:09] inode0: that falls under the Fedora Store SIG to a degree. It has a user facet and an ambassador facet for bulk orders. [22:09] perfect [22:09] * iWolf notes the Fedora Store SIG needs more interested volunteers hint, hint [22:10] :) [22:10] we need a slide deck - anyone want to volunteer to build one that illustrates the 4 Fs and the cool features of F9? or do we farm it out to Marketing? [22:10] iWolf: does it seem to you like that work could be subsumed under this sig? [22:10] iWolf: since isn't that a NA store out of necessity, basically? [22:11] gregdek: i don't think I understand the question? [22:11] this sig = Store? [22:11] iWolf: the store seems like it's a NA thing. [22:11] this sig = na ambassadors [22:11] gregdek: it isn't supposed to be, the store is supposed to be a global thing. [22:11] ok. [22:11] though starting small, with chances to expand to cover as much area as possible. [22:12] sorry all, I have to go [22:12] np, thanks for attending Karlie [22:12] Karlie: g'night [22:12] guys we are 61 minutes in - ready to move on? [22:13] :-* [22:13] <-- Karlie has left this channel. [22:13] thanks kanarip [22:13] karlie [22:13] ke4qqq: +1 [22:13] oops, she left [22:13] *move on [22:13] So next item : we need a slide deck - anyone want to volunteer to build one that illustrates the 4 Fs and the cool features of F9? or do we farm it out to Marketing? [22:13] Silence. [22:13] * iWolf doesn't have the skills [22:14] going once ..... [22:14] twice..... [22:14] ask marketing if they could help and get their answer [22:14] +1 [22:14] threee times...... [22:14] * herlo votes for marketing [22:14] VileGent: +1 [22:14] guess we'll grovel at marketings feet [22:14] marketing (no skills either) [22:14] I think all ambassadors could use this [22:14] herlo: +1 we really need something like this [22:14] marketing can at least bullet point the marketing bits I would think [22:14] next item: FAMSCo liason and relationship? [22:15] * herlo points to iWolf [22:15] and move son [22:15] thats done next item :) [22:15] just one thing... [22:15] ok....what one thing [22:15] last meeting it seemed like folks were down on famsco, seriously if anyone needs something or thinks we should be doing something different, more visible, etc. - just let me know. [22:16] iWolf: it's a question of ignorance. [22:16] we really are here to help. we want to be enablers for people and help you get things done. [22:16] that and we have been back channeling things so long we assume nothing is going on. [22:16] People assume that FAMSCO "calls all the shots", when really it's a service group that works primarily on funding issues. [22:16] yeah, we work on budget and a few other things, promote release parties, etc, but its the ambassadors that do the real work. [22:17] that's all I have to say, I just want you guys to know you can come to me if you need or want more famsco involvement or feel we are falling short somewhere. [22:17] it's yet another place where we assume (Like RH) that they are in charge and we have let ourselves drift. [22:18] we'll change that - we'll take ownership of the work. [22:18] * gregdek applauds! [22:18] we'll obviously need the pull from FAMSCo though [22:18] to fund and lend credence to our efforts [22:18] your efforts are very much appreciated, you've all been doing great work at revitalizing the NA efforts. [22:18] regardless of whether they are in charge or not, they appear to others to be. [22:18] OK, I'm being booted out. [22:18] because after all they are the steering committee [22:18] * VileGent move on [22:19] And I'm starving, so I'm going to find food. [22:19] I have a question I don't know where it fits in exactly - if FAMSCo promotes those events would FAMSCo be the contact about promoting or c-co-co-sponsoring other ambassador events? [22:19] thanks for coming gregdek [22:19] gregdek: g'night [22:19] Carry on without me, and be sure to keep that task list fat. ;) [22:19] <-- gregdek has left this server ("Ex-Chat"). [22:19] gregdek: tx [22:19] inode0: events that need money at this moment would come through famsco. [22:19] inode0: if an ambassador just needs ideas or help with an event they can come to famsco. [22:20] inode0: but really we want to be the ideas and help people not FAMSCo (I think) [22:20] inode0: though, now that you guys are running, we would likely just faciliate getting an NA ambassador in touch with the regional ambassador for mentoring. [22:20] ke4qqq: +1 [22:20] I don't want to 'task' FAMSCo (guys who are mostly in EMEA) with telling us how to run an event [22:20] though we could certainly sit at their feet and learn plenty. [22:20] * inode0 doesn't feel at all entitled to lend Fedora's name to an event [22:21] *waves a sword over inode0's shoulders [22:21] inode0: do you have a specific example? I think you probably have more "power" than you realize. [22:22] consider yourself ominus dominus-ed. [22:22] ok, suppose I want to work with a local safe house to help them help who they already help better [22:22] stuff Fedora stickers all over the equipment - install Fedora- blog it and claim a great victory for Fedora. Sound ok? [22:23] or do you want more? [22:23] assuming I plan to involve Fedora in this project anyway I'd like to do it in a big way where both groups benefit [22:23] inode0: yeah, i'm with ke4qqq thoughts, sounds like a win for both parties. [22:23] I don't want anything but Fedora's name really, and some marketing if Fedora wanted that back [22:24] we want that back - and Fedora logos visible in the pictures you post. [22:24] sorry, another meeting started for me just now. I'm still here [22:24] maybe a warm fuzzy pic of a user. [22:24] using Fedora [22:24] Can I tell the local charity that the Fedora Project + the XYZ LUG would like to help them? [22:24] That is where I get uncomfortable free-wheeling [22:25] inode0: are you or another ambassador going to do the work?? if so sounds good to me. [22:25] you are the Fedora Project -you are the public face.....if you do it. or am I out of line iWolf? [22:25] Question: Is this the place to mention projects, or is it another venue? [22:25] ke4qqq: I don't think you are out of line. [22:25] OK, I'll get over it [22:26] lcafiero: define projects [22:26] * iWolf only has a few more minutes before my wife drags me away... [22:26] * VileGent battleaxe said bedtime 10 minutes ago [22:26] lets move on then we have already discussed that we are going to do mentoring. I'll task myself to write up some ideas [22:26] polo shirts? [22:26] update [22:27] delivered to me anyway [22:27] ke4qqq: i received mine, its great. [22:27] yes, great [22:27] ke4qqq: i blogged about it with a pic. [22:27] someone was providing an update and it wasn't me. [22:27] how do we order them [22:27] pcalarco [22:27] no present though [22:27] not [22:27] blog post: http://jtadlock.wordpress.com/2008/07/22/fedora-polos-north-america/ [22:27] ok so we've received them. VileGent contact pcalarco to order. [22:28] AOB? [22:28] 5.... [22:28] 4.... [22:28] AOB?? [22:28] 3.... [22:28] Any Other Business? [22:28] events? [22:28] Are there any for NA in the next little while? [22:28] just wondering if Indianapolis was a possible place to have stuff? [22:28] We're still in the midst of Lindependence 2008 in Felton, California [22:28] I know OLF is a couple months out. [22:29] As far as events go. [22:29] cool lcafiero: tell us what's going on there.....anything we can help with. [22:29] i think LinuxWorld which Jack is doing. [22:29] and herlo has the Utah gig. [22:29] vwbusguy: what do you need in In? [22:29] OSCON [22:29] ke4qqq: oh yeah! that too! [22:30] http://www.lindependence.net -- Briefly, it's converting a town to GNU/Linux. [22:30] some reason that didn't hit the agenda..... [22:30] I have to head out. Thanks again for al the work, I will catch up from the logs. [22:30] thanks iWolf [22:31] ke4qqq, just wondering if I could help represent Fedora locally in Indy [22:31] anything we can do to help you at Lindepence. [22:31] sorry guys... [22:31] <-- ldimaggi_ has left this server ("Leaving"). [22:32] vwbusguy: sure! [22:32] vwbusguy: absolutely! lugs around? run an install fest, show off what is new and cool in F9.....etc. [22:32] the Cabrillo College GNU/Linux Users Group has been copying F9 disks for the event, and there's only one more meeting/installfest on 7/26 [22:32] vwbusguy: inode0 is your regional ambassador he can work to get you some swag and stuff. [22:32] jlgaddis is nearby [22:33] lcafiero: are there enough - cna we send you some premade ones? [22:33] sweet, inode0 I'll get with you after the meeting [22:33] So I think we're fine. Unfortunately, I'm the organizer of the event and I can't spend as much time at the table as I'd like. [22:33] The Cabrillo College GLUG is handling it, though. They're big on F9 [22:33] just thought I'd pitch Indy for a fest location, it is central to a lot of other big cities: Chicago, Louisville, Cincinnati, Dayton, Detroit. [22:33] are there any other ambassadors close by?? do we need to find out and see if we can get you some warm bodies? [22:34] staff the table a bit. [22:34] vwbusguy: go for FUDcon ... we need that off the east coast one time :) [22:35] inode0, that would be great! [22:35] lcafiero: I'll see if I can get herlo to poke him. [22:36] * VileGent is trying to get a fudcon to like columbus ohio [22:36] As far as bodies and Felton, California, I think there are two ambassadors other than me. [22:37] Karsten Wade and someone in Monterey whose name I don;t know [22:37] anyone else running an event or need help with one?? or want something to do? [22:37] ke4qqq: I can do that, where is Cabrillo college? [22:37] I'm also available to help with events anywhere in California, Western Nevada or Southern Oregon -- if I can drive there in a day, I'm there. [22:37] nn [22:37] Felton [22:38] no one on the east coast?? [22:38] no other events we are running? [22:38] Cabrillo is in Aptos. Felton is in the Santa Cruz Mountains. [22:38] * VileGent not till oct-november [22:40] * VileGent will push for an installfest release party if f10 comes out early part of nov [22:40] ok......well we have a ton of tasks. I'll post the meeting log on the wiki and mailing list. if no one has any other business. [22:40] nite [22:40] None. Thanks. [22:41] none heard, thanks everyone for showing up! [22:41] * ke4qqq bangs gavel and closes meeting. [22:41] ke4qqq, expect to be hearing from you soon From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jul 23 09:55:41 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:55:41 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] more information on FUDCon Brno Message-ID: Hi, The FUDCon information and sign up page has been updated, with a tentative schedule for each day, and also with a place for people who are traveling from out of town to indicate which nights they will need hotel rooms. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConBrno2008 Please continue to sign up if you will attend, and also to add possible hackfest or presentation topics. Thanks, Max From romal at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 23 11:42:36 2008 From: romal at fedoraproject.org (Robert M. Albrecht) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:42:36 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Chaos Communications Congress 2008: 25C3 Message-ID: Hi, this years, as every year, the spaceship FairyDust ( http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Wp_zelt_mit_rakete.JPG) will arrive in Berlin / Germany and opens the Chaos Communications Congress ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Congress). Chaos Communications Congress is the worlds largest hacking congress, lasting 4 days around the clock and estimated 4500 people. Do we want to be present with Fedora ? The call for papers is open too: http://events.ccc.de/congress/2008/ Projects can apply for a "booth". If will do a booth, we will have to do an unusal booth, unlike Linuxtag. The average visitor is highly skilled, often very political, often a bit strange :-) Fedora Embedded, One Laptop per Child, Hacking Contest, ... something like that. 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So, that means anyone who is planning an event for September, October, or November needs to get their event on the FedoraEvents page, and have a sub-page for organization (if necessary) set up by August 1, which is about 3 weeks from now. My thanks to everyone who already has their events on there. We're going to start the Events budget for next quarter at $12,000 USD, but past experience has shown us that the number will creep up over time. Therefore, starting at $12,000 USD gives FAMSCo some "buffer space" for unexpected things that come up. --Max From lucas at cefetce.br Wed Jul 23 12:27:46 2008 From: lucas at cefetce.br (Lucas Saboya) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:27:46 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER: Q3 Event Budget Deadline is Aug 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: what about the events that already where on the events wiki ? like CESoL, @ Brazil how do I check for the budget and stuff ? -- Lucas do Amaral, Tranee de Gestor de TI do Projeto UAB/CEFETCE Tranee de Administrador de Redes do CEFETCE Embaixador do Projeto Fedora no Cear? 2008/7/23 Max Spevack : > If you are organizing an event that takes place in September, October, or > November, and you want budget from FAMSCo, make sure your event is on the > FedoraEvents page by August 1. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > > As you recall, the process that FAMSCo uses for allocating budget for > events is as follows: > > One month before the start of the quarter, all events that are (a) listed > on the FedoraEvents page and (b) have a specific owner on the FedoraEvents > page are allocated budget based on the funds available for that quarter. > Anything not on the FedoraEvents page in time will have to be considered > separately by FAMSCo for budget. > > So, that means anyone who is planning an event for September, October, or > November needs to get their event on the FedoraEvents page, and have a > sub-page for organization (if necessary) set up by August 1, which is about > 3 weeks from now. 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I requested and received support from max to cover this event | -- | Lucas do Amaral, | Tranee de Gestor de TI do Projeto UAB/CEFETCE | Tranee de Administrador de Redes do CEFETCE | Embaixador do Projeto Fedora no Cear? | | | 2008/7/23 Max Spevack >: | | If you are organizing an event that takes place in September, | October, or November, and you want budget from FAMSCo, make sure | your event is on the FedoraEvents page by August 1. | | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents | | As you recall, the process that FAMSCo uses for allocating budget | for events is as follows: | | One month before the start of the quarter, all events that are (a) | listed on the FedoraEvents page and (b) have a specific owner on the | FedoraEvents page are allocated budget based on the funds available | for that quarter. Anything not on the FedoraEvents page in time | will have to be considered separately by FAMSCo for budget. | | So, that means anyone who is planning an event for September, | October, or November needs to get their event on the FedoraEvents | page, and have a sub-page for organization (if necessary) set up by | August 1, which is about 3 weeks from now. My thanks to everyone | who already has their events on there. | | We're going to start the Events budget for next quarter at $12,000 | USD, but past experience has shown us that the number will creep up | over time. Therefore, starting at $12,000 USD gives FAMSCo some | "buffer space" for unexpected things that come up. | | --Max | | -- | Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list | Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com | | https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list | | -- | This message has been scanned for viruses and | dangerous content by MailScanner, and is | believed to be clean. | | :::: CONTRIBUA COM O MEIO AMBIENTE. N?O IMPRIMA ESTA MENSAGEM ::::: | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | | -- | Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list | Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com | https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list - -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America http://www.proyectofedora.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkiHKwwACgkQ024P1ALZT56caACg4UteEHRZ2mbX5oj/GSqo3QB7 ZLEAoMRaYmXHjE2Kz/nRxyi7qDzpJyIJ =v+oQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jul 23 13:04:05 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:04:05 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER: Q3 Event Budget Deadline is Aug 1 In-Reply-To: <48872B10.6070706@projetofedora.org> References: <48872B10.6070706@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: > | what about the events that already where on the events wiki ? like > | CESoL, @ Brazil how do I check for the budget and stuff ? > > I requested and received support from max to cover this event In the general case, however, FAMSCo makes all these decisions, and if there are any questions or concerns, this list is exactly the place to ask! --Max From fedora at jens.kuehnel.org Wed Jul 23 13:14:14 2008 From: fedora at jens.kuehnel.org (=?UTF-8?B?SmVucyBLw7xobmVs?=) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:14:14 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Chaos Communications Congress 2008: 25C3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48872EA6.6080104@jens.kuehnel.org> Robert M. Albrecht schrieb: > Hi, Moin, > this years, as every year, the spaceship FairyDust > (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Wp_zelt_mit_rakete.JPG) will arrive > in Berlin / Germany and opens the Chaos Communications Congress > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Congress). > Chaos Communications Congress is the worlds largest hacking congress, > lasting 4 days around the clock and estimated 4500 people. > Do we want to be present with Fedora ? The call for papers is open too: > http://events.ccc.de/congress/2008/ I will be there anyway (as always). But I can not help too much with the booth. > an unusal booth, unlike Linuxtag. The average visitor is highly skilled, > often very political, often a bit strange :-) Ohh, yes!! :-) > Fedora Embedded, One Laptop per Child, Hacking Contest, ... something > like that. No Hacking contest!!! This will kick you out of the congress!! OLPC and Fedora Embedded can be interessing. > If someone has no idea on the congress, some pictures from last year: > http://events.ccc.de/congress/2007/Photo_Documentation/index.html No photo can show you the feeling of the Congress! :-) It is an event unlike every else you ever did! CU @ the hack-center :-) Jens From lucas at cefetce.br Wed Jul 23 13:15:04 2008 From: lucas at cefetce.br (Lucas Saboya) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:15:04 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER: Q3 Event Budget Deadline is Aug 1 In-Reply-To: References: <48872B10.6070706@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: So I was wondering, how did it go ? :D I need to know to make my mover around here :) -- Lucas do Amaral, Tranee de Gestor de TI do Projeto UAB/CEFETCE Tranee de Administrador de Redes do CEFETCE Embaixador do Projeto Fedora no Cear? 2008/7/23 Max Spevack : > On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: > > | what about the events that already where on the events wiki ? like >> | CESoL, @ Brazil how do I check for the budget and stuff ? >> >> I requested and received support from max to cover this event >> > > In the general case, however, FAMSCo makes all these decisions, and if > there are any questions or concerns, this list is exactly the place to ask! > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > :::: CONTRIBUA COM O MEIO AMBIENTE. 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Check out more details as they are released at > http://2008.utosc.com (I should also mention that our fearless leader > has graciously accepted an offer of a keynote speaker). > > In addition, we'll be providing a small expo floor (10-15 booths) and > Fedora is one of them! To that end, I know there are funds set aside > for this event and would like to request materials soon, but don't > quite know how to go about it. I figure this is a good as place as > any to start. > > Thanks in advance for not beating me to a pulp for not knowing the process :) I hadn't seen any responses here, but I am definitely going to this show. If any other local or regional NA ambassadors are going, now would be a good time to respond on the list. :-) We have a booth or table for Fedora, AIUI. Since I haven't done one of these shows before, I'm not sure how the logistics work. Here's my best shot: 1. We find out how much space we have at the booth/table. 2. We figure out what we can do with that space. 3. We figure out how to get appropriate equipment, schwag, bannering, etc. to cover those goals. 4. We make sure that stuff ends up at UTOSC by the time we're there to set up. 5. We return that which requires it. I guess this is pretty rudimentary, but I just wanted to open the conversation with that. Other notes: * I'll be there with a laptop, and I am going to try to get a OLPC XO to show at the booth as well. Is anyone else bringing one? * We don't have a formal "USB creation station" but with an attendance in the hundreds, can we make do with a laptop? And should we create advertisements for this offering? * What schwag is already headed for this show? -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From inode0 at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 15:05:20 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:05:20 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Utah Open Source Conference 2008 In-Reply-To: <1216824387.11972.81.camel@victoria> References: <1216824387.11972.81.camel@victoria> Message-ID: 2008/7/23 Paul W. Frields : > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 22:47 -0600, Clint Savage wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> As the organizer of UTOSC 2008, I'm officially asking for help from >> Fedora Ambassadors who would like to attend and maintain a booth at >> UTOSC 2008. I'm hoping that there are a few who can make the >> conference. This year, we've had an amazing 89 presentations >> submitted, and will have approximately 50 presentations during the 3 >> day event. Check out more details as they are released at >> http://2008.utosc.com (I should also mention that our fearless leader >> has graciously accepted an offer of a keynote speaker). >> >> In addition, we'll be providing a small expo floor (10-15 booths) and >> Fedora is one of them! To that end, I know there are funds set aside >> for this event and would like to request materials soon, but don't >> quite know how to go about it. I figure this is a good as place as >> any to start. >> >> Thanks in advance for not beating me to a pulp for not knowing the process :) > > I hadn't seen any responses here, but I am definitely going to this > show. If any other local or regional NA ambassadors are going, now > would be a good time to respond on the list. :-) While not exactly local I'd love to go. The website still has no details under lodging and I haven't given a lot of thought to arrangements. Is there a place to stay not requiring a car to get around? Or any suggestions for ambassadors without corporate budgets to help cut corners? :) John From david at gnsa.us Wed Jul 23 15:10:08 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:10:08 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Utah Open Source Conference 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <1216824387.11972.81.camel@victoria> Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:05 AM, inode0 wrote: > 2008/7/23 Paul W. Frields : >> On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 22:47 -0600, Clint Savage wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> As the organizer of UTOSC 2008, I'm officially asking for help from >>> Fedora Ambassadors who would like to attend and maintain a booth at >>> UTOSC 2008. I'm hoping that there are a few who can make the >>> conference. This year, we've had an amazing 89 presentations >>> submitted, and will have approximately 50 presentations during the 3 >>> day event. Check out more details as they are released at >>> http://2008.utosc.com (I should also mention that our fearless leader >>> has graciously accepted an offer of a keynote speaker). >>> >>> In addition, we'll be providing a small expo floor (10-15 booths) and >>> Fedora is one of them! To that end, I know there are funds set aside >>> for this event and would like to request materials soon, but don't >>> quite know how to go about it. I figure this is a good as place as >>> any to start. >>> >>> Thanks in advance for not beating me to a pulp for not knowing the process :) >> >> I hadn't seen any responses here, but I am definitely going to this >> show. If any other local or regional NA ambassadors are going, now >> would be a good time to respond on the list. :-) > > While not exactly local I'd love to go. The website still has no > details under lodging and I haven't given a lot of thought to > arrangements. Is there a place to stay not requiring a car to get > around? > Or any suggestions for ambassadors without corporate budgets to help > cut corners? :) > > John > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > It's nowhere near local for me either, but I'm checking to see what I can pull off. As John asks, it'd be nice to know if a car is needed to get around. From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Wed Jul 23 15:26:40 2008 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:26:40 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER: Q3 Event Budget Deadline is Aug 1 In-Reply-To: References: <48872B10.6070706@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <48874DB0.6060508@projetofedora.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Lucas Saboya escreveu: | So I was wondering, how did it go ? :D | | I need to know to make my mover around here :) I'm talking with the event organizer to get our space! Until this moment we have - - 2 lectures - - Group user participation - - install fest - - 1 lab for training ??? | -- | Lucas do Amaral, | Tranee de Gestor de TI do Projeto UAB/CEFETCE | Tranee de Administrador de Redes do CEFETCE | Embaixador do Projeto Fedora no Cear? | | | 2008/7/23 Max Spevack >: | | On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira wrote: | | | what about the events that already where on the events wiki ? like | | CESoL, @ Brazil how do I check for the budget and stuff ? | | I requested and received support from max to cover this event | | | In the general case, however, FAMSCo makes all these decisions, and | if there are any questions or concerns, this list is exactly the | place to ask! | | | --Max | | -- | Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list | Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com | | https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list | | -- | This message has been scanned for viruses and | dangerous content by MailScanner, and is | believed to be clean. | | :::: CONTRIBUA COM O MEIO AMBIENTE. N?O IMPRIMA ESTA MENSAGEM ::::: | | | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | | -- | Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list | Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com | https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list - -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America http://www.proyectofedora.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkiHTa0ACgkQ024P1ALZT55fygCdE7wcDHppZB5j/H5U1JZU4Uaq 7mgAn3iAoxyWtp/cD1OWyYgZgn1FROBY =Le6R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 15:30:18 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:00:18 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER: Q3 Event Budget Deadline is Aug 1 In-Reply-To: <48874DB0.6060508@projetofedora.org> References: <48872B10.6070706@projetofedora.org> <48874DB0.6060508@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: Listed one today. Scheduled at Sept. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/Axis08 And how can I get few DVD and LiveCD for this event? The form for requesting material is closed. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff#Material_Request_Policies -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From inode0 at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 15:39:30 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:39:30 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Utah Open Source Conference 2008 In-Reply-To: <1216824387.11972.81.camel@victoria> References: <1216824387.11972.81.camel@victoria> Message-ID: 2008/7/23 Paul W. Frields : > Other notes: > * I'll be there with a laptop, and I am going to try to get a OLPC XO to > show at the booth as well. Is anyone else bringing one? If I can make it there I can bring one too. John From aacosta at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 23 15:52:59 2008 From: aacosta at fedoraproject.org (Alejandro Acosta) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:52:59 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora project Message-ID: <6ad0ab20807230852t5bb45f65m759f3b63e6505e79@mail.gmail.com> Hello Ambassador folks I've been invited to participate at a little event in my Hometown State University [1] this October , the main focus of the event would be free software and I'm supposed to speak about the Fedora project. along other participants including Richard Stallman !!!!. Personally I feel very honored to share the same forum with Mr Stallman and when people ask me I always answer that it is just as if you're learning to play piano and someone asks you to perform along Mozart. Anyway, I'm working on my presentation and looking through the ambassador's resources I found Rahul's very illustrative and filled with a lot of helpful information [2], although it does not contain the most recent one. Can anyone help me find the updated numbers? Other useful information will be appreciated also. My second point its a little more complicated since it implies philosophical issues. Mr Stallman explains in his publications that it is not exact to use the word "linux" to refer to an OS or a particular distro since Linux is only the kernel and the rest of the OS is somehow derived from its original work (bash, editor, compilers, etc). [3] Question: Do we at Fedora share and honor this principle? Shall we refer to our and other distros as GNU/Linux as he suggests? Other thing that confuses me is that Stallman states that open source is a motto of a movement that was formed as a reaction against the free software movement.[4] He even says that he refuses to participates in "open source" or "linux" events but he's willing to participate in events denominated "Free Software and Open Source? " or so as long as his speech is not the main focus of the event. I saw the words "open source" a lot along many Fedora presentations, but my doubts still remain. Do we have any policy regarding Open Source and/or Free Software? It is going to be hard to me to debate about freedom against RMS so I would prefer only to talk about our project, but stating clearly what we stand for. It is not my intention to start an even bigger internal debate within our strong and happy community but it is to get some help in getting me clarify these question. Regards Alejandro Acosta Fedora Ambassador Chihuahua, Mexico PS The official name and dates of the event are not yet defined so this is why I have not posted it in the events wiki, I hope I'll receive confirmation within a few days [1] http://www.uach.mx [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Presentations_Fedora_overview.pdf [3] http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html [4] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nushio at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 16:01:47 2008 From: nushio at gmail.com (Juan M. Rodriguez) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:01:47 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora project In-Reply-To: <6ad0ab20807230852t5bb45f65m759f3b63e6505e79@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ad0ab20807230852t5bb45f65m759f3b63e6505e79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/7/23 Alejandro Acosta : > Hello Ambassador folks > > I've been invited to participate at a little event in my Hometown State > University [1] this October , the main focus of the event would be free > software and I'm supposed to speak about the Fedora project. along other > participants including Richard Stallman !!!!. Personally I feel very honored > to share the same forum with Mr Stallman and when people ask me I always > answer that it is just as if you're learning to play piano and someone asks > you to perform along Mozart. > > Anyway, I'm working on my presentation and looking through the ambassador's > resources I found Rahul's very illustrative and filled with a lot of helpful > information [2], although it does not contain the most recent one. Can > anyone help me find the updated numbers? Other useful information will be > appreciated also. > > My second point its a little more complicated since it implies > philosophical issues. Mr Stallman explains in his publications that it is > not exact to use the word "linux" to refer to an OS or a particular distro > since Linux is only the kernel and the rest of the OS is somehow derived > from its original work (bash, editor, compilers, etc). [3] Question: Do we > at Fedora share and honor this principle? Shall we refer to our and other > distros as GNU/Linux as he suggests? > > Other thing that confuses me is that Stallman states that open source is a > motto of a movement that was formed as a reaction against the free software > movement.[4] He even says that he refuses to participates in "open source" > or "linux" events but he's willing to participate in events denominated > "Free Software and Open Source? " or so as long as his speech is not the > main focus of the event. > > I saw the words "open source" a lot along many Fedora presentations, but my > doubts still remain. Do we have any policy regarding Open Source and/or Free > Software? It is going to be hard to me to debate about freedom against RMS > so I would prefer only to talk about our project, but stating clearly what > we stand for. > > It is not my intention to start an even bigger internal debate within our > strong and happy community but it is to get some help in getting me clarify > these question. > > > Regards > > Alejandro Acosta > Fedora Ambassador > Chihuahua, Mexico > > > PS The official name and dates of the event are not yet defined so this is > why I have not posted it in the events wiki, I hope I'll receive > confirmation within a few days > > > > [1] http://www.uach.mx > [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Presentations_Fedora_overview.pdf > [3] http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html > [4] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Congrats on your speech! Regarding the Linux vs GNU/Linux debate, I recently wrote an article on Fedora Mexico[1] about that titled "My name is Linux. GNU/Linux". [2] (Links are in Spanish) Personally, I like to call it GNU/Linux because it tells people the philosophy behind our project, but I don't know Fedora's official policy towards the name. [1] http://proyectofedora.org/mexico/ [2] http://proyectofedora.org/mexico/2008/07/17/mi-nombre-es-linux-gnulinux/ Kind Regards -- Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From herlo1 at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 16:02:06 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:02:06 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Utah Open Source Conference 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <1216824387.11972.81.camel@victoria> Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:39 AM, inode0 wrote: > 2008/7/23 Paul W. Frields : >> Other notes: >> * I'll be there with a laptop, and I am going to try to get a OLPC XO to >> show at the booth as well. Is anyone else bringing one? > > If I can make it there I can bring one too. > > John > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > I've been bugging and bugging the lodging folks to get on it. I expect something to be posted by Monday next week. However, I have some room at my (fairly geeky) house and room for two. One is a guest bed and the other is my son's bed, but he'll be with his mother in SoCal. I'll update everyone on this list about hotels ASAP. Cheers, From herlo1 at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 16:05:46 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:05:46 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Utah Open Source Conference 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <1216824387.11972.81.camel@victoria> Message-ID: >> While not exactly local I'd love to go. The website still has no >> details under lodging and I haven't given a lot of thought to >> arrangements. Is there a place to stay not requiring a car to get >> around? >> Or any suggestions for ambassadors without corporate budgets to help >> cut corners? :) >> >> John A car would be pretty good suggestion. There are no hotels within walking distance (at least not in August when temperatures hover around 100) of the venue. However, we're working on shuttle service to and from the event as well as to any extracurricular events too. There will be plenty of parking at the college. From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jul 23 16:10:11 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:10:11 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Axis08 in India In-Reply-To: References: <48872B10.6070706@projetofedora.org> <48874DB0.6060508@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > And how can I get few DVD and LiveCD for this event? > The form for requesting material is closed. > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff#Material_Request_Policies Right, that page needs to be removed as soon as possible, because it is totally old and outdated from a process point of view. We are trying to follow this model: FAMSCo allocates budget, and the event organizer takes care of the rest. In some cases, we have local leaders in place who help with efficiency by generating a bunch of swag locally and then redistributing it later on. The best thing that you can do is think about how many Live CDs or DVDs you would like, and contact one or two local production companies to you for quotes, and then let us know what you hear back, so we can factor that into the budget request. For India, I would highly recommend contacting Sankarshan and Rahul for local help in mass-producing CDs and DVDs. There is a fund of money set aside specifically for that purpose in India, and they might be able to make it trivially easy for you to get stuff. I've cc'd them. --Max From herlo1 at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 16:13:01 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:13:01 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Utah Open Source Conference 2008 In-Reply-To: <1216824387.11972.81.camel@victoria> References: <1216824387.11972.81.camel@victoria> Message-ID: > I hadn't seen any responses here, but I am definitely going to this > show. If any other local or regional NA ambassadors are going, now > would be a good time to respond on the list. :-) > > We have a booth or table for Fedora, AIUI. Since I haven't done one of > these shows before, I'm not sure how the logistics work. Here's my best > shot: > > 1. We find out how much space we have at the booth/table. It will either be a 10x10 booth or a 6' table. We're working on booth rentals now. > 2. We figure out what we can do with that space. Electricity will be available, as will wireless networking. It appears there *may* be wired networking availability, but we've yet to test it out. > 3. We figure out how to get appropriate equipment, schwag, bannering, > etc. to cover those goals. > 4. We make sure that stuff ends up at UTOSC by the time we're there to > set up. > 5. We return that which requires it. > > I guess this is pretty rudimentary, but I just wanted to open the > conversation with that. > > Other notes: > * I'll be there with a laptop, and I am going to try to get a OLPC XO to > show at the booth as well. Is anyone else bringing one? I have an OLPC XO that could be used until Saturday, where I plan to use it in the try-it lab. I also have an EEEPC, which currently runs F-9. I won't have need of it that week except on Saturday, so if you would like it. > * We don't have a formal "USB creation station" but with an attendance > in the hundreds, can we make do with a laptop? And should we create > advertisements for this offering? I thought there were already advertisements for a creation station (or a laptop, which would probably be fine). Here's what I found: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/LiveUsbCreator > * What schwag is already headed for this show? Alex Maier(sp?) sent me 100 DVDs and 300 CDs which should arrive any day now. I'll check the shipping status today. Cheers, Clint From balajig81 at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 16:23:15 2008 From: balajig81 at gmail.com (G) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:53:15 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Axis08 in India In-Reply-To: References: <48872B10.6070706@projetofedora.org> <48874DB0.6060508@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <6dd1343e0807230923j7f371a97gae201581ed27a53b@mail.gmail.com> Hi > FAMSCo allocates budget, and the event organizer takes care of the rest. In > some cases, we have local leaders in place who help with efficiency by > generating a bunch of swag locally and then redistributing it later on. > I ve got some suggestions on this front.I have satisfied most of the DVD requests that i get. As an ambassador, i burn the images on to the DVD and give it to people requested. I get personal emails and i reply to them and i help them to get the DVDs. My suggestion is that if we can collect some metrics on how many DVD requests are from India or APAC it would be helpful for FAMSCO to take decisions on budgeting etc or could also be used for some reference. I also understand that the Fedora Free Media request is available but the Media requests that ambassadors get personally could also be tracked in the Wiki page. I feel this metrics would help us. These are just my suggestions. Hope you don't mind :) Cheers, Balaji On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > >> And how can I get few DVD and LiveCD for this event? >> The form for requesting material is closed. >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff#Material_Request_Policies > > Right, that page needs to be removed as soon as possible, because it is > totally old and outdated from a process point of view. > > We are trying to follow this model: > > FAMSCo allocates budget, and the event organizer takes care of the rest. In > some cases, we have local leaders in place who help with efficiency by > generating a bunch of swag locally and then redistributing it later on. > > The best thing that you can do is think about how many Live CDs or DVDs you > would like, and contact one or two local production companies to you for > quotes, and then let us know what you hear back, so we can factor that into > the budget request. > > For India, I would highly recommend contacting Sankarshan and Rahul for > local help in mass-producing CDs and DVDs. There is a fund of money set > aside specifically for that purpose in India, and they might be able to make > it trivially easy for you to get stuff. > > I've cc'd them. > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 16:29:55 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:59:55 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Axis08 in India In-Reply-To: <6dd1343e0807230923j7f371a97gae201581ed27a53b@mail.gmail.com> References: <48872B10.6070706@projetofedora.org> <48874DB0.6060508@projetofedora.org> <6dd1343e0807230923j7f371a97gae201581ed27a53b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: . I also understand that the > Fedora Free Media request is available but the Media requests that > ambassadors get personally could also be tracked in the Wiki page. I > feel this metrics would help us. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts/LocalRequests -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 16:34:02 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:04:02 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Axis08 in India In-Reply-To: References: <48872B10.6070706@projetofedora.org> <48874DB0.6060508@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: > We are trying to follow this model: > > FAMSCo allocates budget, and the event organizer takes care of the rest. In > some cases, we have local leaders in place who help with efficiency by > generating a bunch of swag locally and then redistributing it later on. > > The best thing that you can do is think about how many Live CDs or DVDs you > would like, and contact one or two local production companies to you for > quotes, and then let us know what you hear back, so we can factor that into > the budget request. Thanks.. :) > For India, I would highly recommend contacting Sankarshan and Rahul for > local help in mass-producing CDs and DVDs. There is a fund of money set > aside specifically for that purpose in India, and they might be able to make > it trivially easy for you to get stuff. Judging from the correspondence with the organisers, 40 Live cd and 40 DVD will do. And will need a few posters and (if possible) a few stickers. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From stickster at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 16:39:01 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:39:01 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Utah Open Source Conference 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <1216824387.11972.81.camel@victoria> Message-ID: <1216831141.11972.114.camel@victoria> On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 10:13 -0600, Clint Savage wrote: > > * We don't have a formal "USB creation station" but with an attendance > > in the hundreds, can we make do with a laptop? And should we create > > advertisements for this offering? > > I thought there were already advertisements for a creation station (or > a laptop, which would probably be fine). Here's what I found: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/LiveUsbCreator Sorry, to clarify this -- that's something the European folks whipped up, and which is being shuttled around the Old Continent right now. So by "We don't have" I meant only, "I don't have access to it." :-) Now, if you want to consider that a task item for the NA Ambassadors group, I think it's a worthy cause! If so, we should start a separate thread for that.... -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From tatadbb at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 16:52:58 2008 From: tatadbb at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:22:58 +1930 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora project In-Reply-To: References: <6ad0ab20807230852t5bb45f65m759f3b63e6505e79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <27a6293b0807230952k302b113ay1e55dd241e7e6e3f@mail.gmail.com> Last Weekend I gave a conference about some apps (gimp, inkscape and blender) and Mr Stallman was there too (It seems that he is travelling all arround Latin America this days) and be prepared because he only recomends 3 distros.. I was talking to him and ask a little question about wich distro was more near to be aproved by te gpl v3.... he didn't answered. If you can prepare some material about this gpl.v3 and some other legal stuff... you could make some difference :D Good luck!!! 2008/7/24 Juan M. Rodriguez : > > > 2008/7/23 Alejandro Acosta : > >> Hello Ambassador folks >> >> I've been invited to participate at a little event in my Hometown State >> University [1] this October , the main focus of the event would be free >> software and I'm supposed to speak about the Fedora project. along other >> participants including Richard Stallman !!!!. Personally I feel very honored >> to share the same forum with Mr Stallman and when people ask me I always >> answer that it is just as if you're learning to play piano and someone asks >> you to perform along Mozart. >> >> Anyway, I'm working on my presentation and looking through the >> ambassador's resources I found Rahul's very illustrative and filled with a >> lot of helpful information [2], although it does not contain the most >> recent one. Can anyone help me find the updated numbers? Other useful >> information will be appreciated also. >> >> My second point its a little more complicated since it implies >> philosophical issues. Mr Stallman explains in his publications that it is >> not exact to use the word "linux" to refer to an OS or a particular distro >> since Linux is only the kernel and the rest of the OS is somehow derived >> from its original work (bash, editor, compilers, etc). [3] Question: Do we >> at Fedora share and honor this principle? Shall we refer to our and other >> distros as GNU/Linux as he suggests? >> >> Other thing that confuses me is that Stallman states that open source is a >> motto of a movement that was formed as a reaction against the free software >> movement.[4] He even says that he refuses to participates in "open source" >> or "linux" events but he's willing to participate in events denominated >> "Free Software and Open Source? " or so as long as his speech is not the >> main focus of the event. >> >> I saw the words "open source" a lot along many Fedora presentations, but >> my doubts still remain. Do we have any policy regarding Open Source and/or >> Free Software? It is going to be hard to me to debate about freedom against >> RMS so I would prefer only to talk about our project, but stating clearly >> what we stand for. >> >> It is not my intention to start an even bigger internal debate within our >> strong and happy community but it is to get some help in getting me clarify >> these question. >> >> >> Regards >> >> Alejandro Acosta >> Fedora Ambassador >> Chihuahua, Mexico >> >> >> PS The official name and dates of the event are not yet defined so this is >> why I have not posted it in the events wiki, I hope I'll receive >> confirmation within a few days >> >> >> >> [1] http://www.uach.mx >> [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Presentations_Fedora_overview.pdf >> [3] http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html >> [4] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > Congrats on your speech! > > Regarding the Linux vs GNU/Linux debate, I recently wrote an article on > Fedora Mexico[1] about that titled "My name is Linux. GNU/Linux". [2] (Links > are in Spanish) > > Personally, I like to call it GNU/Linux because it tells people the > philosophy behind our project, but I don't know Fedora's official policy > towards the name. > > > [1] http://proyectofedora.org/mexico/ > [2] > http://proyectofedora.org/mexico/2008/07/17/mi-nombre-es-linux-gnulinux/ > > Kind Regards > -- > Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno > Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos > Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stickster at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 17:05:09 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:05:09 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Axis08 in India In-Reply-To: References: <48872B10.6070706@projetofedora.org> <48874DB0.6060508@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <1216832709.11972.125.camel@victoria> On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 18:10 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > > And how can I get few DVD and LiveCD for this event? > > The form for requesting material is closed. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/GetStuff#Material_Request_Policies > > Right, that page needs to be removed as soon as possible, because it is > totally old and outdated from a process point of view. Just to attack this one area -- because there's currently not a good user-accessible delete function (for many good reasons), here's how to do this: 1. Use the "What links here" link on the navigation menu to find an correct any links. 2. Put the following wiki template code at the top of the outdated page: {{old}} -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jul 23 17:14:33 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:14:33 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] EUROPE: CDs, Shirts and Stickers Message-ID: Hi Fedora Europe Ambassadors, I wanted to give a status report on swag in Europe. Alessandra Moraldi from marketing in Munich has helped me to get 400 Live CDs created. I will bring some of them with me to FrOSCon and we'll hang on to the rest to use at other events leading up to Fedora 10. Marek Mahut in Brno already has a bunch of Fedora 9 DVDs for us to use at FUDCon, so that is all set. However, we need to talk about shirts and stickers. It's time for us to try to increase our efficiency by creating some Fedora tshirts and stickers, and sending them to a few different Ambassadors throughout Europe. The Fedora EMEA e.V. non-profit has sufficient funding (from memberships and also from the main Red Hat Community Architecture budget) to handle a bill of about 1000 - 1500 EUR. I was going to email Joerg privately because he and I spoke on IRC a few days ago, but I thought it would be better to have the thread on the mailing list. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral Here's what we need to do: 1) Pick a shirt design. 2) Pick a sticker design. 3) Get quotes from vendors on cost and quantity. 4) Make decisions on quantities and sizes. 5) Give shipping addresses. 6) Pay. I know that we have some pre-existing vendors that have been used in the past. Any volunteers from our Europe Ambassador group to start looking into an order? I'm hoping that we can have stuff in time for FrOSCon, which is on August 23. Thanks, Max From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 23 17:15:06 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:45:06 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora project In-Reply-To: <6ad0ab20807230852t5bb45f65m759f3b63e6505e79@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ad0ab20807230852t5bb45f65m759f3b63e6505e79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4887671A.3060105@fedoraproject.org> Alejandro Acosta wrote: > Anyway, I'm working on my presentation and looking through the > ambassador's resources I found Rahul's very illustrative and filled with > a lot of helpful information [2], although it does not contain the most > recent one. Can anyone help me find the updated numbers? Other useful > information will be appreciated also. I will post an update. > My second point its a little more complicated since it implies > philosophical issues. Mr Stallman explains in his publications that it > is not exact to use the word "linux" to refer to an OS or a particular > distro since Linux is only the kernel and the rest of the OS is somehow > derived from its original work (bash, editor, compilers, etc). [3] > Question: Do we at Fedora share and honor this principle? Shall we > refer to our and other distros as GNU/Linux as he suggests? Feel free to use it. We officially call it just Fedora and we explain it as a Linux based operating system as you can see in http://fedoraproject.org > I saw the words "open source" a lot along many Fedora presentations, but > my doubts still remain. Do we have any policy regarding Open Source > and/or Free Software? It is going to be hard to me to debate about > freedom against RMS so I would prefer only to talk about our project, > but stating clearly what we stand for. In the main documents and webpages, we have traditionally preferred to use free and open source or FOSS as a term to encompass both movements. Rahul From chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 17:15:18 2008 From: chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com (Dipanjan Chakraborty) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:45:18 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help needed regarding account Message-ID: I have absolutely no idea what happened, but I can't login to the fedora account using my username and password. initially I thought I was mistyping my password, but now i have tried all alternatives, with no results. My wiki name is DipanjanChakraborty and mail is chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com. Can anybody help me retrieve my information? Thanking you in anticipation, Dipanjan Chakraborty -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My wiki name is DipanjanChakraborty and mail is > chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com. Can anybody help me retrieve my > information? Go by #fedora-admin -- they can help you From stickster at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 17:21:50 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:21:50 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Utah Open Source Conference 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <1216824387.11972.81.camel@victoria> Message-ID: <1216833710.11972.137.camel@victoria> On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 10:13 -0600, Clint Savage wrote: > > I hadn't seen any responses here, but I am definitely going to this > > show. If any other local or regional NA ambassadors are going, now > > would be a good time to respond on the list. :-) > > > > We have a booth or table for Fedora, AIUI. Since I haven't done one of > > these shows before, I'm not sure how the logistics work. Here's my best > > shot: > > > > 1. We find out how much space we have at the booth/table. > > It will either be a 10x10 booth or a 6' table. We're working on booth > rentals now. > > > 2. We figure out what we can do with that space. > > Electricity will be available, as will wireless networking. It > appears there *may* be wired networking availability, but we've yet to > test it out. > > > 3. We figure out how to get appropriate equipment, schwag, bannering, > > etc. to cover those goals. > > 4. We make sure that stuff ends up at UTOSC by the time we're there to > > set up. > > 5. We return that which requires it. > > > > I guess this is pretty rudimentary, but I just wanted to open the > > conversation with that. > > > > Other notes: > > * I'll be there with a laptop, and I am going to try to get a OLPC XO to > > show at the booth as well. Is anyone else bringing one? > > I have an OLPC XO that could be used until Saturday, where I plan to > use it in the try-it lab. I also have an EEEPC, which currently runs > F-9. I won't have need of it that week except on Saturday, so if you > would like it. > > > * We don't have a formal "USB creation station" but with an attendance > > in the hundreds, can we make do with a laptop? And should we create > > advertisements for this offering? > > I thought there were already advertisements for a creation station (or > a laptop, which would probably be fine). Here's what I found: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/LiveUsbCreator > > > * What schwag is already headed for this show? > > Alex Maier(sp?) sent me 100 DVDs and 300 CDs which should arrive any > day now. I'll check the shipping status today. So we basically have about $700 or so into which we need to fit the following costs: * posters * schwag * anything else we want to pay for Here's an idea that I already sent to Clint, but I want to get the planning out on the list so we don't miss good ideas from other people! * Anyone helping out at the booth should get a shirt, to say "thanks for helping out." We can limit this to a reasonable number, obviously -- for this size show, 4-6 should be plenty, right? * We spend some of the money on low-cost schwag. ** Pens and stickers we can get from BrandFuel -- not much selection, but easier to get our hands on quickly. ** If we want other schwag, it means more work, probably for someone local in Utah, but better selection (and maybe better prices). * We spend some of the money on posters, which have to be produced locally. * If there are people coming in to help from out of town, we should discuss offering a travel allowance. 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Can >> anybody help me retrieve my information? > your username is: chakrabortydipanjan go here...provide that username and your mail id. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/resetpass -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From stickster at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 17:32:03 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:32:03 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] EUROPE: CDs, Shirts and Stickers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1216834323.11972.142.camel@victoria> On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 19:19 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Max Spevack wrote: > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt > > I'm just one person, but I think we should make some of the I *heart* > Fedora tshirts. ;) I'm just one other... and I think the NA Ambassadors should be paying attention too. Maybe there's a cool design we could use that's l10n-able, to make them... I don't know, cooler? More collectable? I can't wait for my Ich liebe Fedora shirt! What's the Russian version? "? ????? Fedora"? Don't know, but I wants it! -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My > wiki > >> name is DipanjanChakraborty and mail is chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com. > Can > >> anybody help me retrieve my information? > > > > your username is: chakrabortydipanjan > > go here...provide that username and your mail id. > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/resetpass > > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit > ============================================= > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(which is nehaldattani) If you still unable to log in, please do reset your password https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/resetpass Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From inode0 at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 18:23:48 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:23:48 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora project In-Reply-To: <4887671A.3060105@fedoraproject.org> References: <6ad0ab20807230852t5bb45f65m759f3b63e6505e79@mail.gmail.com> <4887671A.3060105@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Alejandro Acosta wrote: >> I saw the words "open source" a lot along many Fedora presentations, but >> my doubts still remain. Do we have any policy regarding Open Source and/or >> Free Software? It is going to be hard to me to debate about freedom against >> RMS so I would prefer only to talk about our project, but stating clearly >> what we stand for. > > In the main documents and webpages, we have traditionally preferred to use > free and open source or FOSS as a term to encompass both movements. Understandable and seems fairly common among large distributions. This term has always grated on me in the way saying squares and rectangles would. If you are talking about squares say squares, if you are talking about squares and rectangles just say rectangles. (No offense to those who see a much bigger difference here. I see a bigger difference too.) Out of curiosity, are there any components of Fedora that are Open Source but not Free Software? John From chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 19:33:28 2008 From: chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com (Dipanjan Chakraborty) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:03:28 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help needed regarding account In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks so much Susmit, I am now able to login. Dipanjan Chakraborty On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:57 PM, susmit shannigrahi < thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com> wrote: > >> I have absolutely no idea what happened, but I can't login to the fedora > >> account using my username and password. initially I thought I was > mistyping > >> my password, but now i have tried all alternatives, with no results. My > wiki > >> name is DipanjanChakraborty and mail is chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com. > Can > >> anybody help me retrieve my information? > > > > your username is: chakrabortydipanjan > > go here...provide that username and your mail id. > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/resetpass > > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit > ============================================= > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It is going to be hard to me to debate about freedom against >>> RMS so I would prefer only to talk about our project, but stating clearly >>> what we stand for. >> In the main documents and webpages, we have traditionally preferred to use >> free and open source or FOSS as a term to encompass both movements. > > Understandable and seems fairly common among large distributions. This > term has always grated on me in the way saying squares and rectangles > would. If you are talking about squares say squares, if you are > talking about squares and rectangles just say rectangles. (No offense > to those who see a much bigger difference here. I see a bigger > difference too.) FYI, RMS/FSF considers FOSS a acceptable term. In practice, it makes no difference in Fedora. > Out of curiosity, are there any components of Fedora that are Open > Source but not Free Software? In terms of licenses, there are very few differences. Fedora has inherited a number of Perl components that are under Artistic License 1 which FSF considers potentially non-free as per http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html#GPLIncompatibleLicenses Tom Callaway talked with OSI and they have deprecated the license too as stated in http://opensource.org/licenses/artistic-license-1.0.php While Fedora has for a while not accepted new software under this license, there has been a long term effort to get existing components relicensed which has been successful to a large extend. That effort is coming to a close in Fedora 10 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Artistic1Removal After this effort is complete, there would be zero disparities. Rahul From gerold at lugd.org Wed Jul 23 21:11:45 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:11:45 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EUROPE: CDs, Shirts and Stickers In-Reply-To: <1216834323.11972.142.camel@victoria> References: <1216834323.11972.142.camel@victoria> Message-ID: <1216847505.18608.3.camel@F9NB.homenet.local> Hi, to be honest and it is only a question ... But if we want produce Shirts with a (Fedora-) Logo; don't we need to pay attention to the Logo UsageGuidline at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines2 ? Personaly I like every design, every single shirt but I also think, we have to ask legal if we don't harm the Trademark given by RH ... Regards Gerold Am Mittwoch, den 23.07.2008, 17:32 +0000 schrieb Paul W. Frields: > On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 19:19 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Max Spevack wrote: > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt > > > > I'm just one person, but I think we should make some of the I *heart* > > Fedora tshirts. ;) > > I'm just one other... and I think the NA Ambassadors should be paying > attention too. Maybe there's a cool design we could use that's > l10n-able, to make them... I don't know, cooler? More collectable? > > I can't wait for my Ich liebe Fedora shirt! What's the Russian version? > "? ????? Fedora"? Don't know, but I wants it! > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Gerold Kassube -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That was part of the original founding deal that we made with them. I will help make sure we achieve compliance. --Msc From ryanlerch at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 00:54:52 2008 From: ryanlerch at gmail.com (ryan lerch) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:54:52 +1000 Subject: [Ambassadors] EUROPE: CDs, Shirts and Stickers In-Reply-To: References: <1216834323.11972.142.camel@victoria> <1216847505.18608.3.camel@F9NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: <671a617b0807231754p37df1b20h5de5530365ad220f@mail.gmail.com> if there is any issues with the current designs (from either legal or the Fedora Board), be sure to hit up the fedora-art list, and we can try to get the changes done ASAP. If you have any ideas for more t-shirt designs, be sure to add them to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PrintDesignService and hit up the art-team list. I am keen to help you guys make some awesome shirts, so this is me half putting my hand up to help. :) cheers, ryanlerch On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Gerold Kassube wrote: > > But if we want produce Shirts with a (Fedora-) Logo; don't we need to >> pay attention to the Logo UsageGuidline at >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines2 ? >> >> Personaly I like every design, every single shirt but I also think, we >> have to ask legal if we don't harm the Trademark given by RH ... >> > > What ever design we pick, we tell the Feoda Board what we want to do, and > they will either give is clearance or not. That was part of the original > founding deal that we made with them. I will help make sure we achieve > compliance. > > --Msc > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From linux at elfshadow.net Thu Jul 24 01:10:43 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:10:43 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] EUROPE: CDs, Shirts and Stickers In-Reply-To: <1216834323.11972.142.camel@victoria> References: <1216834323.11972.142.camel@victoria> Message-ID: <10e0a9b00807231810k2e2072e7gf90b792689f6449e@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/23 Paul W. Frields : > I'm just one other... and I think the NA Ambassadors should be paying > attention too. I agree - this seems to be a very similar model to what the NA ambassadors want to move to, this thread should help us learn what works well for others. ~Jeffrey From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Thu Jul 24 06:38:19 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:38:19 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EUROPE: CDs, Shirts and Stickers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200807240838.19178.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008 19:14:33 schrieb Max Spevack: > I was going to email Joerg privately because he and I spoke on IRC a few > days ago, but I thought it would be better to have the thread on the > mailing list. What ever we deside. We should know what we want till 30.07.08. And we should order latest at 01.08.08 to get all in time! CU Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Jul 24 08:54:32 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:54:32 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] EUROPE: CDs, Shirts and Stickers In-Reply-To: References: <1216834323.11972.142.camel@victoria> <1216847505.18608.3.camel@F9NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Max Spevack wrote: > What ever design we pick, we tell the Feoda Board what we want to do, > and they will either give is clearance or not. That was part of the > original founding deal that we made with them. I will help make sure > we achieve compliance. Please excuse my terrible typing and misspelling of my own name! I must have been half asleep when I sent that email! :) --Max From eerpini at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 13:48:37 2008 From: eerpini at gmail.com (Satish Eerpini) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:18:37 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] haskell and promotion !! Message-ID: <93655eb70807240648o53d53995jf3db8376232dfadb@mail.gmail.com> hi everyone , i have this small doubt , the feature list ( the current one ) of Fedora 10 says that it will have very good support for Haskell, and this could well be used by us (ambassadors) for promoting the release in the other communities which are less familiar with Fedora Linux like Scientists , Engineers , etc , i am not sure whether this is the right place for this question but : what is haskell , and how improved support for it could really help the acceptance of the entire Distro ( Fedora 10 ) ?? well i have not heard the word Haskell enough times to even remember the name !!, Thanks Satish -- http://satish.playdrupal.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My >> wiki >> >> name is DipanjanChakraborty and mail is chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com. >> Can >> >> anybody help me retrieve my information? >> > >> >> your username is: chakrabortydipanjan >> >> go here...provide that username and your mail id. >> >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/resetpass >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Susmit. >> >> ============================================= >> ssh >> 0x86DD170A >> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit >> ============================================= >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Do you have any problem with us producing a bunch of the "I *heart* Fedora" tshirts? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Artwork_T(2d)Shirt_tshirt_love.png --Max From stickster at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 15:42:21 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:42:21 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] EUROPE: CDs, Shirts and Stickers In-Reply-To: References: <1216834323.11972.142.camel@victoria> <1216847505.18608.3.camel@F9NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: <1216914141.5114.37.camel@victoria> On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 17:22 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Gerold Kassube wrote: > > > But if we want produce Shirts with a (Fedora-) Logo; don't we need to > > pay attention to the Logo UsageGuidline at > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines2 ? > > > > Personaly I like every design, every single shirt but I also think, we > > have to ask legal if we don't harm the Trademark given by RH ... > > Hey Fedora Project Leader, Mr. Frields: > > What do you say? Do you have any problem with us producing a bunch of > the "I *heart* Fedora" tshirts? > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Artwork_T(2d)Shirt_tshirt_love.png Fedora EMEA e.V. is producing these shirts, correct? They have a trademark licensing agreement. The T-shirt shown doesn't have our official logo on it, but I think there ought to be one -- a small one on the upper back, or on one sleeve. That helps to keep the brand identification even though the front has a completely different presentation of the word "fedora." I think that single change would be sufficient for me to say, "Go for it!". -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That helps to keep the brand identification even though the > front has a completely different presentation of the word "fedora." > > I think that single change would be sufficient for me to say, "Go for > it!". Sounds good. What do you think, Art Team? Any chance you guys can whip that up for us? thanks, Max From red at fedoraproject.org Thu Jul 24 19:14:18 2008 From: red at fedoraproject.org (Sandro "red" Mathys) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:14:18 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAD EMEA 2008 - Date & Location fixed Message-ID: <4888D48A.9040908@fedoraproject.org> Dear * The FAD EMEA 2008 will take place in Basel, Switzerland from Friday, 2008-11-14 till Sunday, 2008-11-16. Please add yourself to the new list of confirmed attendees if you can attend this event. Link: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADEMEA2008 A little more verbose announcement can be found on my blog/the planet (http://blog.sandro-mathys.ch/2008/07/24/fad-emea-2008-date-location/). But everything important is written on the wiki page. Best regards red -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 259 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From loupgaroublond at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 19:25:30 2008 From: loupgaroublond at gmail.com (Yaakov Nemoy) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:25:30 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] haskell and promotion !! In-Reply-To: <93655eb70807240648o53d53995jf3db8376232dfadb@mail.gmail.com> References: <93655eb70807240648o53d53995jf3db8376232dfadb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f692fec0807241225i270da57fgcf7fc159c8af63e9@mail.gmail.com> 2008/7/24 Satish Eerpini : > hi everyone , > i have this small doubt , > the feature list ( the current one ) of Fedora 10 says that it will have > very good support for Haskell, and this could well be used by us > (ambassadors) for promoting the release in the other communities which are > less familiar with Fedora Linux like Scientists , Engineers , etc , > i am not sure whether this is the right place for this question but : > what is haskell , and how improved support for it could really help the > acceptance of the entire Distro ( Fedora 10 ) ?? well i have not heard the > word Haskell enough times to even remember the name !!, Perhaps this is my fault, that I haven't talked it up enough. Haskell is also a bit obscure though too. Haskell is a functional programming language, which is a language style that is favoured in the scientific community for a variety of reasons. Haskell is a research language, created by a committee, and has been a development ground for a variety of different aspects to functional programming. Functional programming in general and Haskell in particular has also been used in the corporate programming space with a variety of success. One such example is the language Erlang, created by Sony Ericsson which can be found in both cell phones and in highly parallelized and threaded systems. "Good Haskell Support" is an effort to create packaging guidelines for Haskell packages, and to include as many as possible in the Fedora 10 initial release. The goal is to make sure that Fedora is a platform that can be used for both the development and deployment of applications written in Haskell. This can be marketed in several different ways. First and foremost, this is a benefit to universities, since the more languages Fedora supports and has libraries for, the better it can be used in educational settings. Secondly, Fedora can be marketed to companies and other research labs that regularly use speciality languages, such as Haskell. It can also be thought of as one component in provided a wider base of support for supporting Open Source in general, in that we can use any source code out in the wild. Namely, with support for Haskell, various Lisp dialects, Erlang, Brainfuck, and other languages that aren't Python, Java, C++, or C, we can run more code. Let me know if you need more marketing fodder about Haskell. -Yaakov From eerpini at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 02:32:30 2008 From: eerpini at gmail.com (Satish Eerpini) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:02:30 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] haskell and promotion !! In-Reply-To: <7f692fec0807241225i270da57fgcf7fc159c8af63e9@mail.gmail.com> References: <93655eb70807240648o53d53995jf3db8376232dfadb@mail.gmail.com> <7f692fec0807241225i270da57fgcf7fc159c8af63e9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <93655eb70807241932s1d7dc290tb05e919e2ac6c041@mail.gmail.com> that was more than i had to know , .... i also did some research on my own to know more about Haskell and ya i also bumped in to Erlang on the way , ...... Thanks Satish On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Yaakov Nemoy wrote: > 2008/7/24 Satish Eerpini : > > hi everyone , > > i have this small doubt , > > the feature list ( the current one ) of Fedora 10 says that it will have > > very good support for Haskell, and this could well be used by us > > (ambassadors) for promoting the release in the other communities which > are > > less familiar with Fedora Linux like Scientists , Engineers , etc , > > i am not sure whether this is the right place for this question but : > > what is haskell , and how improved support for it could really help the > > acceptance of the entire Distro ( Fedora 10 ) ?? well i have not heard > the > > word Haskell enough times to even remember the name !!, > > Perhaps this is my fault, that I haven't talked it up enough. Haskell > is also a bit obscure though too. > > Haskell is a functional programming language, which is a language > style that is favoured in the scientific community for a variety of > reasons. Haskell is a research language, created by a committee, and > has been a development ground for a variety of different aspects to > functional programming. Functional programming in general and Haskell > in particular has also been used in the corporate programming space > with a variety of success. One such example is the language Erlang, > created by Sony Ericsson which can be found in both cell phones and in > highly parallelized and threaded systems. > > "Good Haskell Support" is an effort to create packaging guidelines for > Haskell packages, and to include as many as possible in the Fedora 10 > initial release. The goal is to make sure that Fedora is a platform > that can be used for both the development and deployment of > applications written in Haskell. > > This can be marketed in several different ways. First and foremost, > this is a benefit to universities, since the more languages Fedora > supports and has libraries for, the better it can be used in > educational settings. Secondly, Fedora can be marketed to companies > and other research labs that regularly use speciality languages, such > as Haskell. It can also be thought of as one component in provided a > wider base of support for supporting Open Source in general, in that > we can use any source code out in the wild. Namely, with support for > Haskell, various Lisp dialects, Erlang, Brainfuck, and other languages > that aren't Python, Java, C++, or C, we can run more code. > > Let me know if you need more marketing fodder about Haskell. > > -Yaakov > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- http://satish.playdrupal.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They have a >>> trademark licensing agreement. >>> >>> The T-shirt shown doesn't have our official logo on it, but I think >>> there ought to be one -- a small one on the upper back, or on one >>> sleeve. That helps to keep the brand identification even though the >>> front has a completely different presentation of the word "fedora." >>> >>> I think that single change would be sufficient for me to say, "Go for >>> it!". >> >> Sounds good. What do you think, Art Team? Any chance you guys can whip >> that up for us? > > > If I understand Paul's request correctly, the requirement is to have > this very logo http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Logo_fedoralogo.png > on the sleeve (I think I would like it better this way, just like the > sleeve of the polo shirt, only without the "ambassador" word and with > blue text - [1]) or on the back. ^^ Blue text? No; I think Paul want's to have the last (heart) one modified with the "official Logo" (and afai understood _ONLY_ the logo [somewhere]) on the shirt .. > Just applying the logo (I believe Fedora EMEA e.V. already has the > source for it) at a certain size (larger for the back, smaller for the > sleeve). ^^ Fedora EMEA e.V. has only a trademark licensing agreement and prodcued Stitch cards for producing the "Ambassador Polo Shirt" many, many European Ambassadors are wearing at several events like FOSDEM, Linuxtag and it is also gone to the US with paul, Max, Mike McGrath and Tom "Spot" > > Now for the *real* question: when and where can I buy one of these? ^^ Nicu, it'll be a pleasure for the EMEA e.V. to organise with the next order we will realize ONE for you; ... But we need to collect orders because otherwise the shipping and handling costs for a single one is too high. I think we will try to collect for the next event to order again a bunch of (between 30 to 50 pcs.); Sounds that good for you? Regards Gerold > > [1] - > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2007/01/fedora-ambassadors-polo-shirts.html > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > From office at mindfreak-networks.org Fri Jul 25 08:15:24 2008 From: office at mindfreak-networks.org (office at mindfreak-networks.org) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:15:24 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi :) Message-ID: <1216973724.48898b9ca6f8d@webmail.mindfreak-networks.org> Hi , my name is Tinca Flavius-Antoniu , my friend call me Tony , I am from Romania , Tirgu-Mures city , i love networks , servers , I also love Fedora and I will contribute by presenting Fedora to the world , to people in my city , I will assura that everyone will know what is Fedora . I have made a lot of routers,servers of all kind (DNS,DHCP,Apache,IRC,Shoutcast,Webmin,and so on...),i have MAN networks (Metropolitan-Area-Network) in my city. I would like to represent Fedora in my city , so I could talk with people , with business people who would like install Fedora on their servers for companies . I hope I will very usefull for Fedora , and I will to my best to be a very good Fedora Ambassador . From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Jul 25 10:01:27 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:01:27 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] EUROPE: CDs, Shirts and Stickers In-Reply-To: <5852.217.162.12.42.1216968447.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <1216834323.11972.142.camel@victoria> <1216847505.18608.3.camel@F9NB.homenet.local> <1216914141.5114.37.camel@victoria> <48896F50.9010005@nicubunu.ro> <5852.217.162.12.42.1216968447.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: > The T-shirt shown doesn't have our official logo on it, but I think > there ought to be one -- a small one on the upper back, or on one > sleeve. That helps to keep the brand identification even though the > front has a completely different presentation of the word "fedora." To summarize the requirements: FRONT of the shirt: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Artwork_T(2d)Shirt_tshirt_love.png BACK of the shirt: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/2/2d/Logo_fedoralogo.png (but smaller, and up near the top in the center, by the neck). I envision us having the shirts printed in white. ======== That's it! Let's not make this any more complicated than we need to! :) The only question worth asking at this point is "do the EMEA Ambassadors like that design enough to spend some of our money producing it?" Personally, I think it is cool, fun, and different from all the other shirts that we have, and I vote yes. It's the Fedora logo -- live a little! --Max From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 12:06:08 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:36:08 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi :) In-Reply-To: <1216973724.48898b9ca6f8d@webmail.mindfreak-networks.org> References: <1216973724.48898b9ca6f8d@webmail.mindfreak-networks.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:45 PM, wrote: > Hi , my name is Tinca Flavius-Antoniu , my friend call me Tony , I am from > Romania , Tirgu-Mures city , i love networks , servers , I also love Fedora > and I will contribute by presenting Fedora to the world , to people in my > city , I will assura that everyone will know what is Fedora . > I have made a lot of routers,servers of all kind > (DNS,DHCP,Apache,IRC,Shoutcast,Webmin,and so on...),i have MAN networks > (Metropolitan-Area-Network) in my city. > I would like to represent Fedora in my city , so I could talk with people , > with business people who would like install Fedora on their servers for > companies . > I hope I will very usefull for Fedora , and I will to my best to be a very > good Fedora Ambassador . Welcome :) -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From cmpahar at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 12:34:57 2008 From: cmpahar at gmail.com (Christos Bacharakis) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:34:57 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi :) In-Reply-To: <1216973724.48898b9ca6f8d@webmail.mindfreak-networks.org> References: <1216973724.48898b9ca6f8d@webmail.mindfreak-networks.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:15 AM, wrote: > Hi , my name is Tinca Flavius-Antoniu , my friend call me Tony , I am from > Romania , Tirgu-Mures city , i love networks , servers , I also love Fedora > and I will contribute by presenting Fedora to the world , to people in my > city , I will assura that everyone will know what is Fedora . > I have made a lot of routers,servers of all kind > (DNS,DHCP,Apache,IRC,Shoutcast,Webmin,and so on...),i have MAN networks > (Metropolitan-Area-Network) in my city. > I would like to represent Fedora in my city , so I could talk with people , > with business people who would like install Fedora on their servers for > companies . > I hope I will very usefull for Fedora , and I will to my best to be a very > good Fedora Ambassador . > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Hello!! Welcome abroad! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Jul 25 14:56:04 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:56:04 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora project In-Reply-To: <6ad0ab20807230852t5bb45f65m759f3b63e6505e79@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ad0ab20807230852t5bb45f65m759f3b63e6505e79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/7/23 Alejandro Acosta : > Hello Ambassador folks > > I've been invited to participate at a little event in my Hometown State > University [1] this October , the main focus of the event would be free > software and I'm supposed to speak about the Fedora project. along other > participants including Richard Stallman !!!!. Personally I feel very honored > to share the same forum with Mr Stallman and when people ask me I always > answer that it is just as if you're learning to play piano and someone asks > you to perform along Mozart. > > Anyway, I'm working on my presentation and looking through the ambassador's > resources I found Rahul's very illustrative and filled with a lot of helpful > information [2], although it does not contain the most recent one. Can > anyone help me find the updated numbers? Other useful information will be > appreciated also. > > My second point its a little more complicated since it implies philosophical > issues. Mr Stallman explains in his publications that it is not exact to use > the word "linux" to refer to an OS or a particular distro since Linux is > only the kernel and the rest of the OS is somehow derived from its original > work (bash, editor, compilers, etc). [3] Question: Do we at Fedora share > and honor this principle? Shall we refer to our and other distros as > GNU/Linux as he suggests? > > Other thing that confuses me is that Stallman states that open source is a > motto of a movement that was formed as a reaction against the free software > movement.[4] He even says that he refuses to participates in "open source" > or "linux" events but he's willing to participate in events denominated > "Free Software and Open Source? " or so as long as his speech is not the > main focus of the event. > > I saw the words "open source" a lot along many Fedora presentations, but my > doubts still remain. Do we have any policy regarding Open Source and/or Free > Software? It is going to be hard to me to debate about freedom against RMS > so I would prefer only to talk about our project, but stating clearly what > we stand for. > > It is not my intention to start an even bigger internal debate within our > strong and happy community but it is to get some help in getting me clarify > these question. > > > Regards > > Alejandro Acosta > Fedora Ambassador > Chihuahua, Mexico > > > PS The official name and dates of the event are not yet defined so this is > why I have not posted it in the events wiki, I hope I'll receive > confirmation within a few days > > > > [1] http://www.uach.mx > [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Presentations_Fedora_overview.pdf > [3] http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html > [4] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > 1. First of all this is a great news, both from a community perspective and from a OS experience. I want to congratulate with you and inviting you to ask if you need help and support (like you have just done). 2. I think you haven't to take care of the definition issue, but focus on Fedora vision of Open Source (see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/TalkingPoints). Some time giving a "tag" could be a way to take the distance from a part of the community: Fedora, in that way, is a open view community. +1 for all the other comments about this issue 3. Rahul give a detailed and precise answer about this topic. Best regards Francesco Ugolini From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Jul 25 15:20:04 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:20:04 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora project In-Reply-To: <6ad0ab20807230852t5bb45f65m759f3b63e6505e79@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ad0ab20807230852t5bb45f65m759f3b63e6505e79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/7/23 Alejandro Acosta : > Hello Ambassador folks > > I've been invited to participate at a little event in my Hometown State > University [1] this October , the main focus of the event would be free > software and I'm supposed to speak about the Fedora project. along other > participants including Richard Stallman !!!!. Personally I feel very honored > to share the same forum with Mr Stallman and when people ask me I always > answer that it is just as if you're learning to play piano and someone asks > you to perform along Mozart. > > Anyway, I'm working on my presentation and looking through the ambassador's > resources I found Rahul's very illustrative and filled with a lot of helpful > information [2], although it does not contain the most recent one. Can > anyone help me find the updated numbers? Other useful information will be > appreciated also. > > My second point its a little more complicated since it implies philosophical > issues. Mr Stallman explains in his publications that it is not exact to use > the word "linux" to refer to an OS or a particular distro since Linux is > only the kernel and the rest of the OS is somehow derived from its original > work (bash, editor, compilers, etc). [3] Question: Do we at Fedora share > and honor this principle? Shall we refer to our and other distros as > GNU/Linux as he suggests? > > Other thing that confuses me is that Stallman states that open source is a > motto of a movement that was formed as a reaction against the free software > movement.[4] He even says that he refuses to participates in "open source" > or "linux" events but he's willing to participate in events denominated > "Free Software and Open Source? " or so as long as his speech is not the > main focus of the event. > > I saw the words "open source" a lot along many Fedora presentations, but my > doubts still remain. Do we have any policy regarding Open Source and/or Free > Software? It is going to be hard to me to debate about freedom against RMS > so I would prefer only to talk about our project, but stating clearly what > we stand for. > > It is not my intention to start an even bigger internal debate within our > strong and happy community but it is to get some help in getting me clarify > these question. > > > Regards > > Alejandro Acosta > Fedora Ambassador > Chihuahua, Mexico > > > PS The official name and dates of the event are not yet defined so this is > why I have not posted it in the events wiki, I hope I'll receive > confirmation within a few days > > > > [1] http://www.uach.mx > [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Presentations_Fedora_overview.pdf > [3] http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html > [4] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > 1. First of all this is a great news, both from a community perspective and from a OS experience. I want to congratulate with you and inviting you to ask if you need help and support (like you have just done). 2. I think you haven't to take care of the definition issue, but focus on Fedora vision of Open Source (see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/TalkingPoints). Some time giving a "tag" could be a way to take the distance from a part of the community: Fedora, in that way, is a open view community. +1 for all the other comments about this issue 3. Rahul give a detailed and precise answer about this topic. Best regards Francesco Ugolini From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Jul 25 21:26:29 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:26:29 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] LUG Radio Live UK trip report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/7/23 Max Spevack : > Hi ambassadors, > > Here is my trip report from LUG Radio Live UK. > > http://spevack.livejournal.com/60327.html > > Thanks, > Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Amazing event. Thank you for the report Regards Francesco Ugolini From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Sat Jul 26 08:08:11 2008 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:08:11 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EUROPE: CDs, Shirts and Stickers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080726100811.670b09b3@annifrid.mrtomlinux> Le Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:14:33 +0200 (CEST), Max Spevack a ?crit : > Hi Fedora Europe Ambassadors, > > I wanted to give a status report on swag in Europe. > > Alessandra Moraldi from marketing in Munich has helped me to get 400 > Live CDs created. I will bring some of them with me to FrOSCon and > we'll hang on to the rest to use at other events leading up to Fedora > 10. How much does it cost for RH to create 400 live cds ? Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I will bring some of them with me to FrOSCon and > > we'll hang on to the rest to use at other events leading up to Fedora > > 10. > > How much does it cost for RH to create 400 live cds ? ^^ I don't know the price, BUT there is one isssue which can't be diregarded ... The Producer of DvDs has his principal office in the same bulding as RH in Munich, also the production ... So there are very, very, very short ways :-) Regards Gerold -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Alessandra is also in the process of doing a bank transfer of 2000 EUR from the Fedora/CommuntiyArchitecture budget to Fedora EMEA e.V., which will be used for FrOSCon, for a meal during the French Ambassador meetup, for the shirts and stickers we are talking about producing, etc. --Max From luca at foppiano.org Sat Jul 26 12:13:57 2008 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:13:57 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] italian linux day (25th October 2008) Message-ID: <1217074437.3934.37.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> Hi all, I and other Italian guys are organizing the Italian Linux day (fedora side), in particular, what and how to do to promote fedora during Linux day, which will be October 25th 2008. Italian Linux day has a short complication: is distributed on about 100 events in all around the country, depends on how many LUGs decide to participate (a dynamic events map, here [1]). Having more than 100 events all around Italy is quite complexed to manage with classical methods (send CDs, t-shirt, and so on), we decided to bet on innovation. Last year was the "USB key year" (fedora is the first distribution which allow a usb creation), so this Linux day will be the "fedora station usb creation" Linux day. With Francesco Crippa suggestion, we want to create a new product called for example "fedora starter kit" or "fedora creation station", "fedora distribution station" (the name is still WIP, and we need fedora-marketing help to find the best attractive and nice name). This product is composed of various part to build a fedora creation station [2]: * a manifest * a personalized box * two, three t-shirt * a usb cable * a CD/DVD with a fedora live + some ISOs + kobold * Stickers to attach to created usb keys (which will be provided by users) We need few things: - find a name for product - create artwork: * artwork for the box (we can print a personalized box), we need a log for this product * artwork for CD/DVD This product is designed to be a geek product and if person receive that box with a product to build, is more enthusiastic and interesting than receive something difficult to use and no attractive. We are collecting information and, as first step we are trying to understand how much for each box. If you have any suggestion about any aspect of my report, tell me ;-) Luca [1] http://www.linuxday.it/ [2] http://flickr.com/photos/lfoppiano/2427673878/in/set-72157604636767577/ -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 60th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3174 Are you sure the back door is locked? From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sat Jul 26 12:51:16 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:51:16 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] italian linux day (25th October 2008) In-Reply-To: <1217074437.3934.37.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> References: <1217074437.3934.37.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> Message-ID: 2008/7/26 Luca Foppiano : > Hi all, > I and other Italian guys are organizing the Italian Linux day (fedora > side), in particular, what and how to do to promote fedora during Linux > day, which will be October 25th 2008. > > Italian Linux day has a short complication: is distributed on about 100 > events in all around the country, depends on how many LUGs decide to > participate (a dynamic events map, here [1]). > > Having more than 100 events all around Italy is quite complexed to > manage with classical methods (send CDs, t-shirt, and so on), we decided > to bet on innovation. > > Last year was the "USB key year" (fedora is the first distribution which > allow a usb creation), so this Linux day will be the "fedora station usb > creation" Linux day. > With Francesco Crippa suggestion, we want to create a new product called > for example "fedora starter kit" or "fedora creation station", "fedora > distribution station" (the name is still WIP, and we need > fedora-marketing help to find the best attractive and nice name). > > This product is composed of various part to build a fedora creation > station [2]: > * a manifest > * a personalized box > * two, three t-shirt > * a usb cable > * a CD/DVD with a fedora live + some ISOs + kobold > * Stickers to attach to created usb keys (which will be provided by > users) > > We need few things: > - find a name for product > - create artwork: > * artwork for the box (we can print a personalized box), we need a log > for this product > * artwork for CD/DVD > > This product is designed to be a geek product and if person receive that > box with a product to build, is more enthusiastic and interesting than > receive something difficult to use and no attractive. > > We are collecting information and, as first step we are trying to > understand how much for each box. > > If you have any suggestion about any aspect of my report, tell me ;-) > > Luca > > > [1] http://www.linuxday.it/ > [2] > http://flickr.com/photos/lfoppiano/2427673878/in/set-72157604636767577/ > Thank you for this update. >From a FAmSCo perspective it's important to understand the resource you need to better cover the costs and try to find the best solution. The idea sound cool and, from my point of view, it could be a way to make real marketing alongside catching people attention. Best regards Francesco Ugolini From electromech at electromech.info Sun Jul 27 05:00:34 2008 From: electromech at electromech.info (ElectroMech) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:30:34 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Drupal International event Fedora promotion at Gujarat , India Message-ID: <24233aca0807262200v20fbc42tb7d0c04ebfa3e078@mail.gmail.com> Dear All, I am Nilesh at (city :)Ahmedabad, (state) Gujarat, country India, are participating a drupal camp from 8-10 August 2008. It was already mention by Mr. Nirmal Pathak and Mr. Nehal Dattani. As Fedora 9 is offering drupal out of the box we are going to distribute Feodar DVD as a part of the official Kit. Total participation will be around 500 candidates. We also like to print Fedora Log on DVDs. 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But 400 means we'll have enough for FrOSCon and > a few other events, and it was very simple to get them, because RH marketing > folks in Munich (Alessandra Moraldi) helped! > > Alessandra is also in the process of doing a bank transfer of 2000 EUR from > the Fedora/CommuntiyArchitecture budget to Fedora EMEA e.V., which will be > used for FrOSCon, for a meal during the French Ambassador meetup, for the > shirts and stickers we are talking about producing, etc. > > --Max > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We won't be able to do it until after September 1 though, when our budget is refreshed for a new quarter. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Sun Jul 27 15:09:27 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:09:27 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] reminder: event reports Message-ID: I have cleaned up the Event Report guidelines page on the wiki. Please remember that an event report is required if you are a leader of an event, and highly suggested if you attend an event, but are not the primary organizer. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReportingGuidelines We've been doing a great job on event reports, but we must make sure it continues!! Hopefully in the next week we'll see some event reports from OSCON and OLS attendees. --Max From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Jul 27 15:11:43 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:11:43 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] reminder: event reports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/7/27 Max Spevack : > I have cleaned up the Event Report guidelines page on the wiki. Please > remember that an event report is required if you are a leader of an event, > and highly suggested if you attend an event, but are not the primary > organizer. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReportingGuidelines > > We've been doing a great job on event reports, but we must make sure it > continues!! > > Hopefully in the next week we'll see some event reports from OSCON and OLS > attendees. > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Thank you Max for this work. Regards Francesco Ugolini From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Jul 27 15:27:32 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:27:32 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Planning F10 Release Events Message-ID: This is an invite to everyone, especially local meetings' chairs, local groups coordinators to help FAmSCo planning F10 Release Events adding this topic in your Agenda (e.g. IRC meetings). Your collaboration is important because you know better than anyone else what is better for your local area, in that way FAmSCo is here to hear from you what you need and what you want to see for the next F10 Release Events. I know those aren't BIG events, but they are designed to cover the "entire planet", so it would be helpful to be able to organize such events in most of the country (see the Members country list to have an idea). Hoping to give you more infos soon and waiting to read your feedbacks from this list or from IRC meetings (I'll try to cover most of them, or I'll read the log) Best regards Francesco Ugolini From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Sun Jul 27 16:50:30 2008 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:50:30 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EUROPE: CDs, Shirts and Stickers In-Reply-To: References: <20080726100811.670b09b3@annifrid.mrtomlinux> Message-ID: <20080727185030.17deb16e@annifrid.mrtomlinux> Le Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:56:34 +0200 (CEST), Max Spevack a ?crit : > On Sat, 26 Jul 2008, Thomas Canniot wrote: > > > How much does it cost for RH to create 400 live cds ? > > The 400 Live CDs cost about 430 EUR. Is that a good price or not? It is a very good price, as long as these CDs are pressed and that their paper cases are printed with Fedora colors and logo. Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:22:29 +0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] EUROPE: CDs, Shirts and Stickers In-Reply-To: References: <20080726100811.670b09b3@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <928156be0807270646s53e32f16q14f7b9fa88c2ec79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Harish Pillay, I'm from Indonesia, can we ask you to provide the CD and/or DVD for our community events? Which will be held at Jakarta in October or November 2008. best regards, Indrayana MB. On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:57 AM, Harish Pillay wrote: > Heherson - > > > This may already be off-topic but can RH Singapore do the same for APAC > :) > > APAC is beginning to have some events of its own and the CDs would really > be > > a great help. > > Please contact me at hpillay at redhat dot com. 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( specially in India ). 2008/7/28 David Nielsen > > > Den 28. jul. 2008 11.22 skrev Indrayana MB. : > >> Dear Harish Pillay, >> >> I'm from Indonesia, can we ask you to provide the CD and/or DVD for our >> community events? >> Which will be held at Jakarta in October or November 2008. >> > > If F10 keeps on schedule then release is ultimo October, it would be lovely > if it could be timed so you had F10 media to hand out instead of the aging > F9. i don't know how long shipping and pressing cds will take but the > advantage of showing off our latest and greatest seems overwhelming at least > for a community event. > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner 16, Sun Rise complex, Nr. 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URL: From mike at miketc.net Tue Jul 29 08:58:53 2008 From: mike at miketc.net (Mike Chambers) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:58:53 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America: Last call for Fedora Ambassador Polos In-Reply-To: <1216708475.4219.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.net> References: <4863F703.9010805@nd.edu> <1214548213.10144.4.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> <1216708475.4219.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.net> Message-ID: <1217321933.11709.3.camel@scrappy.miketc.net> On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 01:34 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 01:30 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 16:07 -0400, Pascal Calarco wrote: > > > Hi folks -- > > > > > > This is the last call for the first round of Fedora Ambassador polos. > > > Shipment is expected in the next few weeks, in plenty of time for fall > > > cons and the October FUDCon. Please e-mail me off list if you are > > > interested and want to order one with your snail mail address, quantity > > > and sizing. > > > > > Cost: $42.40 each including shipping for sizes up to XL; $3.00 extra for > > > 2XL and up. For orders of two polos, the cost drops down to $69.00. > > > Payment is either via PayPal or you can send me a check drawn on a US > > > bank in US dollars. > > > > I would like to order one of those shirts and will include my address > > below. I am a north american ambassador, and want to try and show off > > Fedora as much as possible. > > Not trying to rush, just checking in actually, but any word on when > these have been ordered or time frame when they will? Pascal, any word on these being ordered yet? Been bout a month and wanted to find out what the status is, and to make sure I didn't give a wrong address or something. -- Mike Chambers Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc.. mikec302 at fedoraproject.org From pcalarco at nd.edu Tue Jul 29 10:06:55 2008 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:06:55 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America: Last call for Fedora Ambassador Polos In-Reply-To: <1217321933.11709.3.camel@scrappy.miketc.net> References: <4863F703.9010805@nd.edu> <1214548213.10144.4.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> <1216708475.4219.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.net> <1217321933.11709.3.camel@scrappy.miketc.net> Message-ID: <488EEBBF.6050506@nd.edu> Mike Chambers wrote: > On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 01:34 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > >> On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 01:30 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 16:07 -0400, Pascal Calarco wrote: >>> >>>> Hi folks -- >>>> >>>> This is the last call for the first round of Fedora Ambassador polos. >>>> Shipment is expected in the next few weeks, in plenty of time for fall >>>> cons and the October FUDCon. Please e-mail me off list if you are >>>> interested and want to order one with your snail mail address, quantity >>>> and sizing. >>>> >>>> Cost: $42.40 each including shipping for sizes up to XL; $3.00 extra for >>>> 2XL and up. For orders of two polos, the cost drops down to $69.00. >>>> Payment is either via PayPal or you can send me a check drawn on a US >>>> bank in US dollars. >>>> >>> I would like to order one of those shirts and will include my address >>> below. I am a north american ambassador, and want to try and show off >>> Fedora as much as possible. >>> >> Not trying to rush, just checking in actually, but any word on when >> these have been ordered or time frame when they will? >> > > Pascal, any word on these being ordered yet? Been bout a month and > wanted to find out what the status is, and to make sure I didn't give a > wrong address or something AFAIK, these have all been delivered Mike. I will request the shipped address and UPS confirmation number from the vendor and send this to you off-list. In case anyone is interested, we'll likely be doing a second batch of polos early this Fall for North American Ambassadors. I'll post a more formal call for these when I am back from vacation after Aug.20th, but if anyone is itching to order one now, please send me e-mail with sizing and I'll put you on the list. Cost will likely be around $40 per, two for $65. - pascal From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 12:54:37 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:54:37 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America: Last call for Fedora Ambassador Polos In-Reply-To: <488EEBBF.6050506@nd.edu> References: <4863F703.9010805@nd.edu> <1214548213.10144.4.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> <1216708475.4219.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.net> <1217321933.11709.3.camel@scrappy.miketc.net> <488EEBBF.6050506@nd.edu> Message-ID: I received mine last Thursday and they look awesome. I intend to wear mine to work today. Thank you Pascal for your help on this one. Looking forward to seeing you soon. > In case anyone is interested, we'll likely be doing a second batch of polos > early this Fall for North American Ambassadors. I'll post a more formal > call for these when I am back from vacation after Aug.20th, but if anyone is > itching to order one now, please send me e-mail with sizing and I'll put you > on the list. Cost will likely be around $40 per, two for $65. Cool, this is great! Cheers, Clint From matt at matthewcascio.com Tue Jul 29 13:11:01 2008 From: matt at matthewcascio.com (Matthew Cascio) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:11:01 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] cost/benefit of switching to open source Message-ID: <488F16E5.8060203@matthewcascio.com> Hello Ambassadors, I'm working on a strategy presentation to help a client understand the cost/benefit to IT departments for switching 100% to open source. I searched the list archives, but didn't see anything relevant. Can anyone point to some good research on the topic or case studies of companies that have done this? Many thanks, Matthew Cascio DC Metro Ambassador From gdk at redhat.com Tue Jul 29 13:36:38 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:36:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] cost/benefit of switching to open source In-Reply-To: <488F16E5.8060203@matthewcascio.com> References: <488F16E5.8060203@matthewcascio.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Matthew Cascio wrote: > Hello Ambassadors, > > I'm working on a strategy presentation to help a client understand the > cost/benefit to IT departments for switching 100% to open source. I searched > the list archives, but didn't see anything relevant. Well, there's a bunch of sales-y stuff here from Red Hat: http://www.redhat.com/solutions/info/casestudies/ Hope this helps... --g From wonderer4711 at gmx.de Tue Jul 29 13:38:18 2008 From: wonderer4711 at gmx.de (wonderer4711 at gmx.de) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:38:18 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] cost/benefit of switching to open source In-Reply-To: <488F16E5.8060203@matthewcascio.com> References: <488F16E5.8060203@matthewcascio.com> Message-ID: <488F1D4A.9050503@gmx.de> hy Matthew, I had several years ago such a presentation (sorry, must search for it) but I have found so far some infos: http://www.aboutdebian.com/linux.htm (some collegues) http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver/compare/default.mspx (yes, you must know the propaganda ;-) ) http://www.cyber.com.au/about/linux_vs_windows_tco_comparison.pdf (with charts, good for Decisionmakers ;-) ). http://whitepapers.zdnet.co.uk/0,1000000651,260280265p-39000381q,00.htm http://www.michaelhorowitz.com/Linux.vs.Windows.html (some other thoughts) Here in Germany the Town M?nchen will migrate to Linux these days (sorry, thats in german but maybe some Online-Translater can do the thing): http://www.egovcom.de/srvinclude/4/1/inews_daily.asp?opt=archiv&red_nr=18381 http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Muenchner-Linux-Migration-bleibt-auf-Kurs--/meldung/113091 Hope it helps... best regards Henrik - wonderer at fedoraproject.org Matthew Cascio schrieb: > Hello Ambassadors, > > I'm working on a strategy presentation to help a client understand the > cost/benefit to IT departments for switching 100% to open source. I > searched the list archives, but didn't see anything relevant. > > Can anyone point to some good research on the topic or case studies of > companies that have done this? > > > Many thanks, > > Matthew Cascio > DC Metro Ambassador > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From david at gnsa.us Tue Jul 29 13:53:40 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:53:40 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER: NA Ambassadors Meeting tonight 9pm Eastern Message-ID: Just a quick, perhaps annoying, reminder that the North American Ambassadors will be holding a meeting tonight (Tuesday) at 9pm Eastern in #fedora-meeting. You'll find an agenda here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-07-30 Please make plans to join us! From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Jul 29 14:12:36 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:12:36 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER: NA Ambassadors Meeting tonight 9pm Eastern In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, David Nalley wrote: > Just a quick, perhaps annoying, reminder that the North American > Ambassadors will be holding a meeting tonight (Tuesday) at 9pm > Eastern in #fedora-meeting. This is at 3 AM local time for me, so I won't be able to join, but I wanted to weigh in a little bit. One comment on the budget side. The Aug 1 deadline is for Q3 events (September - November). Right now, you guys only have 3 events listed for North America. That's fine -- the ones listed are important events, and there is definitely something to be said for focusing your budget and energy on a few larger things instead of having a bunch of smaller stuff. But if there's more (including maybe 2 or 3 Fedora 10 release parties) that people want to do, it would be smart to get them on the page with an owner, or else there won't be any budget guaranteed. If you simply look at the way that Events page is shaping up for Q3, there are a lot of events worldwide, so our cushion to fund events that pop up mid-stream will be much smaller (to maybe non-existent) in Q3. It's gonna be a tight quarter for funding, and everyone worldwide is going to need patience with FAMSCo. ;) As far as UTOSC specifically -- there is $700 in budget sitting around left in Q2 for me to get to Clint, and there is another $800 in budget that will be worked into Q3, also for UTOSC. So that event is taken care of. Keep in mind that $1,500 needs to *include* all of Paul Frields' costs (minus airfare, which has already been purchased). --Max From stickster at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 14:59:37 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:59:37 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassadors Meeting Log 2008-07-22 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1217343577.22310.9.camel@victoria> On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 22:44 -0400, David Nalley wrote: [...IRC log snipped...] Did anyone do a summary of this log? In any meeting, especially one where the IRC log was this long, it's important to pull a summary and post it so people who couldn't attend know what transpired and any action items and deadlines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-07-22 Let's make sure that someone is assigned to do that for tonight's meeting. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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F10 it is > [21:54] but I am worried about lead time - we have ~3 months left. > [21:54] --> Sonar_Gal has joined this channel > (n=Andrea at adsl-074-171-066-196.sip.aby.bellsouth.net). > [21:54] that's not a problem > [21:54] so far CD ordering has been one of those blackboxes, > famsco sets money aside and then rh guys do it. > [21:54] we could do it in a month > [21:55] iWolf: we want to change that! > [21:55] iWolf: I know - and that makes us go around FAMSCo to > RH - which is a loser. > [21:55] not that we don't like RH - but it undermines the > community and the organization > [21:55] we shouldnt have to rely on max and greg every time we > need something... > [21:55] herlo: :) , sorry, that was meant to say, there are > more folks than just me that need to work that change through, not > that it can't be done. > [21:55] iWolf: you're the only FAMSCo member who showed up Sorry I missed the point. Are you talking about the CD ordering? We have discussed about it both in the list and in some of our meetings. That doesn't mean that FAmSCo doesn't take care of this topic, as FAmSCo we are focused on helping community and trying to simplify the Ambassadors life. Sometimes it requires time and sometimes it doesn't work perfectly, we are here to learn from our mistakes and if we have done something, we will try to repair our lacks. Personally I ask every FAmSCo meeting if there is a specific issue and I'll try to do my best trying to reply to the core M-L topics, many times it works, some times fails, so, don't see this as a neglect action, but as a "bug". > [22:19] <-- gregdek has left this server ("Ex-Chat"). > [22:19] gregdek: tx > [22:19] inode0: events that need money at this moment would > come through famsco. > [22:19] inode0: if an ambassador just needs ideas or help with > an event they can come to famsco. > [22:20] inode0: but really we want to be the ideas and help > people not FAMSCo (I think) > [22:20] inode0: though, now that you guys are running, we > would likely just faciliate getting an NA ambassador in touch with the > regional ambassador for mentoring. > [22:20] ke4qqq: +1 > [22:20] I don't want to 'task' FAMSCo (guys who are mostly in > EMEA) with telling us how to run an event > [22:20] though we could certainly sit at their feet and learn plenty. > [22:20] * inode0 doesn't feel at all entitled to lend Fedora's name to an event > [22:21] *waves a sword over inode0's shoulders > [22:21] inode0: do you have a specific example? I think you > probably have more "power" than you realize. > [22:22] consider yourself ominus dominus-ed. FAmSCo is mainly composed by EMEA members elected by the whole community. Personally (I'm sure everyone in FAmSCo) I'm working independently from my country, FAmSCo is focusing on Ambassadors global/local challenges, we demonstrate it and I think you can trust us. FAmSCo people won't to teach you how to run an event, but if it's needed help Ambassador following the right way: we share our knowledge and we learn from your feedback and from your events. What I can say is that from a FAmSCo perspective is easy to see in a wide range and that make FAmSCo a trustworthy platform to manage the community. FAmSCo is working on the localization, that means that the local knowledge base will be enhanced by local ambassadors and it will became the first resource for local ambassadors, like the local events/activities management. In that way, I'm happy to see what NA is doing and I agree completely in the way you are following. > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Due to the meeting time I can't join it (it's in late night). I'm happy, moreover, to read you logs and if I didn't commented everything now, is just because I will prefer to discuss it during FAmSCo meeting (in #fedora-meeting), talking directly with people. Regards Francesco Ugolini From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Jul 29 16:10:35 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:10:35 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassadors Meeting Log 2008-07-22 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > Sorry I missed the point. Are you talking about the CD ordering? We > have discussed about it both in the list and in some of our meetings. > That doesn't mean that FAmSCo doesn't take care of this topic, as > FAmSCo we are focused on helping community and trying to simplify the > Ambassadors life. Sometimes it requires time and sometimes it doesn't > work perfectly, we are here to learn from our mistakes and if we have > done something, we will try to repair our lacks. Personally I ask > every FAmSCo meeting if there is a specific issue and I'll try to do > my best trying to reply to the core M-L topics, many times it works, > some times fails, so, don't see this as a neglect action, but as a > "bug". I think all of FAMSCo recognizes that the path to success leads in pushing swag production into local parts of the world, and allowing those regions to pool together resources as necessary to get the best prices. I'm working on a visual aid that shows (based on the decisions that have been made at local meetings on NA, SA, and EMEA ambassadors) the "responsible parties" for various regions. I hope to have a DRAFT VERSION ready to show the Ambassadors list in the next day or two. It's currently being reviewed by FAMSCo. I'm also planning to re-work the FedoraEvents/Organization page to reflect the decisions being made in North America and the larger model that Ambassadors is growing into. Within a relatively short amount of time, I hope that when budget allocations are made by FAMSCo, that money can be placed directly into the hands of regional leaders to produce swag for their events in whatever way they feel is most efficient. The event reports will speak for themselves if the money is being spent well, or disappearing into a black hole. People will self-determine the ways to get the most value out of their budget. We're already a ways down this path, to be honest. > FAmSCo is mainly composed by EMEA members elected by the whole > community. Personally (I'm sure everyone in FAmSCo) I'm working > independently from my country, FAmSCo is focusing on Ambassadors > global/local challenges, we demonstrate it and I think you can trust > us. FAmSCo people won't to teach you how to run an event, but if it's > needed help Ambassador following the right way: we share our knowledge > and we learn from your feedback and from your events. What I can say > is that from a FAmSCo perspective is easy to see in a wide range and > that make FAmSCo a trustworthy platform to manage the community. > > FAmSCo is working on the localization, that means that the local > knowledge base will be enhanced by local ambassadors and it will > became the first resource for local ambassadors, like the local > events/activities management. In that way, I'm happy to see what NA is > doing and I agree completely in the way you are following. FAMSCo is elected on a yearly basis, and if the end result of the current FAMSCo membership is a solid, working model of local accountability worldwide that is working out its bugs and producing good results, then this past year can be deemed a success. FAMSCo's membership is 7 -- currently there are 4 EMEA residents, 2 North America residents (though John Babich is quite the world traveler), and 1 South American resident. I think it would be wise for the Ambassadors on a whole to continue to ensure that FAMSCo has representatives from all parts of the world on it. I think a regional Ambassadors model will lead to that end result by default, because local leaders will emerge and gain the respect of everyone. --Max From mike at miketc.net Tue Jul 29 16:24:38 2008 From: mike at miketc.net (Mike Chambers) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:24:38 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America: Last call for Fedora Ambassador Polos In-Reply-To: <488EEBBF.6050506@nd.edu> References: <4863F703.9010805@nd.edu> <1214548213.10144.4.camel@scrappy.miketc.com> <1216708475.4219.1.camel@scrappy.miketc.net> <1217321933.11709.3.camel@scrappy.miketc.net> <488EEBBF.6050506@nd.edu> Message-ID: <1217348678.28400.0.camel@scrappy.miketc.net> On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 06:06 -0400, Pascal Calarco wrote: > AFAIK, these have all been delivered Mike. I will request the shipped > address and UPS confirmation number from the vendor and send this to you > off-list. OK thanks. -- Mike Chambers Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc.. mikec302 at fedoraproject.org From tymensk at yahoo.com Tue Jul 29 17:51:18 2008 From: tymensk at yahoo.com (Samuel Teyemensah) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] (no subject) Message-ID: <943989.24287.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Hi, I just now a fedora ambassador. ? I am planning a seminar in my community to introduce fedora to the people. How do I get some of the live cds for distribution. I have been able to convert some friends and school mates of mine to the side of fedora. However, we are still using fedora 7 because internet connections in my area are not so good, making it difficult to download fedora 9. Some should?help. I am in Ghana- West Africa. ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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How many do you need? --Max From linuxknight at fedoraproject.org Tue Jul 29 20:50:23 2008 From: linuxknight at fedoraproject.org (Matt McKenzie) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:50:23 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Custom printed USB flash drives for schwag/sale Message-ID: Hello, NA Ambassador here, just finished with OReilly OSCON last week, had a great turnout (from what I saw anyway). I spoke a bit with Jack Aboutboul during the OSCON about revisiting the topic of custom printed USB flash drives for schwag, and also possibly to offer for sale. He said that it has been tried before (I noticed later he has one), but it turned out to be somewhat expensive, and the drives were too small to be useful for our purposes, such as only 256M or 512M (bootable livecd based Fedora system needs 700M at least). Now USB drives are getting bigger and cheaper for the size, so a 1GB or 2GB drive should be more reasonable price I would think. I have done a little preliminary scouting, but since I don't know what kind of quantities we want I can't really get quotes, and Jack didn't mention what company was used before. He said to bring the topic up on the mailing list for discussion, so here I am, and here it is. It looks like there is a NA meeting tonight, I'll do my best to make it and bring it up there too. -- ---------- Matt M. LinuxKnight -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at gnsa.us Tue Jul 29 21:10:42 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:10:42 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] cost/benefit of switching to open source In-Reply-To: <488F16E5.8060203@matthewcascio.com> References: <488F16E5.8060203@matthewcascio.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Matthew Cascio wrote: > Hello Ambassadors, > > I'm working on a strategy presentation to help a client understand the > cost/benefit to IT departments for switching 100% to open source. I > searched the list archives, but didn't see anything relevant. > > Can anyone point to some good research on the topic or case studies of > companies that have done this? > > > Many thanks, > > Matthew Cascio > DC Metro Ambassador > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Hi Matt, If the stuff from Greg and Henrik isn't enough let me know and I'll try and find some additional resources for you. As an aside we have a North American Ambassadors Meeting tonight at 9pm Eastern in #fedora-meeting and would love to have you join us. Thanks, David Nalley From david at gnsa.us Tue Jul 29 21:15:34 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:15:34 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Custom printed USB flash drives for schwag/sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Matt! I think RH had a number printed up for the last RH summit or FUDCon. That being said - it looks like we'd be talking 10-12 dollars for a 1GB USB drive replete with logo based on my 5 minutes with Google if we ordered several hundred. But please attend the meeting and bring this up. Thanks, David Nalley 2008/7/29 Matt McKenzie : > Hello, > > NA Ambassador here, just finished with OReilly OSCON last week, had a great > turnout (from what I saw anyway). > > I spoke a bit with Jack Aboutboul during the OSCON about revisiting the > topic of custom printed USB flash drives for schwag, and also possibly to > offer for sale. > He said that it has been tried before (I noticed later he has one), but it > turned out to be somewhat expensive, and the drives were too small to be > useful for our purposes, such as only 256M or 512M (bootable livecd based > Fedora system needs 700M at least). Now USB drives are getting bigger and > cheaper for the size, so a 1GB or 2GB drive should be more reasonable price > I would think. > > I have done a little preliminary scouting, but since I don't know what kind > of quantities we want I can't really get quotes, and Jack didn't mention > what company was used before. > > He said to bring the topic up on the mailing list for discussion, so here I > am, and here it is. > > It looks like there is a NA meeting tonight, I'll do my best to make it and > bring it up there too. > > > -- > ---------- > Matt M. > LinuxKnight > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > From karlie_robinson at webpath.net Tue Jul 29 22:42:13 2008 From: karlie_robinson at webpath.net (Karlie Robinson) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:42:13 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Custom printed USB flash drives for schwag/sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <488F9CC5.9050605@webpath.net> Why not just do stickers? Print up a bunch of, version independent ones and use them whenever you want. Something like http://www.dometag.com/ Then if you really want to get fancy, a Kingston Data traveler is designed to accept a customizing label. In fact when you buy one, the side with the metal label hardly stays in it's little recess. It's suppose to come out. ~Karlie David Nalley wrote: > Hi Matt! > > I think RH had a number printed up for the last RH summit or FUDCon. > That being said - it looks like we'd be talking 10-12 dollars for a > 1GB USB drive replete with logo based on my 5 minutes with Google if > we ordered several hundred. > But please attend the meeting and bring this up. > > Thanks, > > David Nalley > > 2008/7/29 Matt McKenzie : > >> Hello, >> >> NA Ambassador here, just finished with OReilly OSCON last week, had a great >> turnout (from what I saw anyway). >> >> I spoke a bit with Jack Aboutboul during the OSCON about revisiting the >> topic of custom printed USB flash drives for schwag, and also possibly to >> offer for sale. >> He said that it has been tried before (I noticed later he has one), but it >> turned out to be somewhat expensive, and the drives were too small to be >> useful for our purposes, such as only 256M or 512M (bootable livecd based >> Fedora system needs 700M at least). Now USB drives are getting bigger and >> cheaper for the size, so a 1GB or 2GB drive should be more reasonable price >> I would think. >> >> I have done a little preliminary scouting, but since I don't know what kind >> of quantities we want I can't really get quotes, and Jack didn't mention >> what company was used before. >> >> He said to bring the topic up on the mailing list for discussion, so here I >> am, and here it is. >> >> It looks like there is a NA meeting tonight, I'll do my best to make it and >> bring it up there too. >> >> >> -- >> ---------- >> Matt M. >> LinuxKnight >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From stickster at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 22:51:45 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:51:45 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Custom printed USB flash drives for schwag/sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1217371905.17403.19.camel@victoria> On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 17:15 -0400, David Nalley wrote: > Hi Matt! > > I think RH had a number printed up for the last RH summit or FUDCon. > That being said - it looks like we'd be talking 10-12 dollars for a > 1GB USB drive replete with logo based on my 5 minutes with Google if > we ordered several hundred. > But please attend the meeting and bring this up. That figure agrees with what I saw when I did some market research before. So weigh 10-12 dollars vs. 1.60-2.50 for a Live CD and you can see that the production cost really only makes sense if you sustain the stock through selling these rather than giving them away. (Red Hat printed up the ones at the Summit, Fedora didn't pay for them -- if we had, we would have wanted them to be blue!) 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From rafaelliu at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 23:26:51 2008 From: rafaelliu at gmail.com (rafael liu) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:26:51 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] cost/benefit of switching to open source In-Reply-To: References: <488F16E5.8060203@matthewcascio.com> Message-ID: Wouldn't it be useful to have it in on the wiki? As material for speakers and as an article for end users? Rafael Liu On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:10 PM, David Nalley wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Matthew Cascio > wrote: > > Hello Ambassadors, > > > > I'm working on a strategy presentation to help a client understand the > > cost/benefit to IT departments for switching 100% to open source. I > > searched the list archives, but didn't see anything relevant. > > > > Can anyone point to some good research on the topic or case studies of > > companies that have done this? > > > > > > Many thanks, > > > > Matthew Cascio > > DC Metro Ambassador > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > Hi Matt, > > If the stuff from Greg and Henrik isn't enough let me know and I'll > try and find some additional resources for you. > As an aside we have a North American Ambassadors Meeting tonight at > 9pm Eastern in #fedora-meeting and would love to have you join us. > > Thanks, > > David Nalley > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafaelliu at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 23:58:22 2008 From: rafaelliu at gmail.com (rafael liu) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:58:22 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Pre-made presentations Message-ID: Hey, folks The thought that get me joining ambassador team was "I want to help". I had a lot of enthusiasm but no direction at all. I constantly kept thinking about ways to help and nothing (good) would come up. Them I thought: "there should be guidelines, like scripts of things. to this that way and you'll be helping" to guide those like me. Well, I don't know where else it would be applicable, but at first a thought about applying that to presentations. I know there's already a presentation session on the wiki. But it seems to me like a deposit of already made presentations. Things there are really confusing, disorganized and out dated. I was about to write that no one updates it anymore, but looking at the history I saw recent modifications, the latest on being from Mspevack, and the diff showed: ''THIS PAGE DESPERATELY NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP. ALL OUTDATED PRESENTATIONS SHOULD BE ARCHIVED, AND CURRENT PRESENTATIONS SHOULD BE DESCRIBED IN GREATER DETAIL.''' Ha! I had a training once from a big company and saw that the guy had those guidelines, what's important in that slide, what correlated subject he could talk about, the duration, etc. and the slide itself, of course. What do you think about getting a session with the slides, organized by subject and maybe depth with the guidelines on how the presentation should flow? Slides made thinking about it, standardize, updated, revised by experts on that area in the community. It may seem like I'm talking in favor of dumb, incapable people, but it's really because there are those of us with the willing but without directions. 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[20:57] * jds2001 invited dcolish :) [20:57] * MadBus aka vwbusguy [20:57] since we could always use more ambassadors :) [20:57] * inode0 invited #fedora [20:57] outstanding jds2001 [20:57] * VileGent here [20:58] * stickster here [20:58] * VileGent jbwillia [20:58] A motley crew indeed. [20:58] Hey now [20:58] haha [20:59] * herlo expecets jtaber to join any time... [20:59] <-- alexxed has left this server ("Leaving."). [20:59] Blah blah wretched hive blah blah scum and villainy blah blah. :) [20:59] stickster: motley crew is a compliment [20:59] Here [21:00] Only with umlauts [21:00] so you say! [21:00] true that, me doesn't know how to type them on his keyboard, hoever [21:00] however [21:01] Who has the gavel tonite? [21:01] * herlo hides [21:01] get him! [21:01] you cant make me! [21:01] :) [21:01] * LinuxKnight here [21:01] per the agenda you do [21:01] * jds2001 wishes he could get this kind of turnout for his meetings....... [21:02] <-- hanthana has left this server (No route to host). [21:02] you = me? [21:02] gregdek: yep [21:02] gregdek: yes [21:02] Y'know, triage is very easy, people.... ;-) [21:02] Okey doke. [21:02] This week's Ambassadors Meeting will be lead by GregDeKoenigsberg. [21:02] Point me to the agenda page and I shall lead. [21:02] from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-07-30 [21:03] Hm. [21:03] * herlo also recommends people use this page too for the task list: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA [21:04] which is the same as https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica [21:04] OK. [21:04] We've got plenty of folks on, so I'll dispense with roll call. [21:05] 1. ACTION ITEMS. [21:05] Checking the tasks page: [21:05] * Contacting local ambassadors. [21:05] From what I've been seeing, you gents have been going full bore. Updates? [21:05] * inode0 goes on vacation Friday and will hunt them all down [21:05] * jds2001 is here as a result of said contact [21:06] * herlo is in the final process of getting western ambassador emails, but I have much of it ready to go... [21:06] I've sent around two dozen emails - received 2-3 responses [21:06] ke4qqq: that's good percentage actually [21:06] yeah I am pleased with that response [21:06] Are we scrubbing the ambassadors list accordingly? [21:06] how so? [21:06] ke4qqq, no have seen [21:06] mark with "active?" [21:06] of course some of the people are JesseKeating and stickster [21:07] then erase after 60 days? [21:07] Yes, what quaid said. [21:07] The wiki gardener speaks true. ;) [21:07] quaid, sounds fair [21:07] my desire is that we also ask ambassadors that become active make sure they have a certain set of info on their personal page... [21:07] * jds2001 knows f13 is active [21:07] ! [21:07] +1 info [21:07] --> Sparks has joined this channel (n=christen at fedora/Sparks). [21:07] LinuxKnight? [21:07] email, name, irc nick, etc... [21:07] I don't remember getting one of these emails [21:08] LinuxKnight: that's because its me [21:08] and I am slow [21:08] they haven't gone to everyone yet [21:08] I am local to pacific nw [21:08] but its coming, hopefully tonight [21:08] oh ok then ;) [21:08] * MadBus hasn't got one yet either. [21:08] LinuxKnight: you may not - we may not have a comprehensive list of all NA ambassadors - it's based on Category being set on your home page..... [21:08] MadBus: where do you live? [21:08] herlo, Indianapolis [21:09] I think inode0 is my regional contact [21:09] there are over 500 Ambassadors - and 68 are listed as being in NA. [21:09] OK. [21:09] yeah [21:09] we have talked, MadBus is in [21:09] So that work is ongoing, then, it's safe to say? [21:09] cool [21:09] yep [21:10] All right. [21:10] I will add "marking ambassadors as active" to that action item. Any objections to that? [21:10] nope [21:10] none [21:10] nope [21:10] * inode0 is a little hesitant [21:10] why? [21:10] inode0: Oh? How come? [21:11] <-- noriko has left this channel ("Leaving"). [21:11] without any warning it has already caused panic here [21:11] --> hanthana has joined this channel (n=hanthana at conference/mozilla-summit/x-8a40c61df28cfac6). [21:11] don't see a need to rush much [21:11] A little panic isn't a bad thing, so long as it's properly managed. :) [21:11] I don't advocate knocking "inactive" ambassadors out quite yet. [21:11] one thing I'd like to see is that when we get the people on board, they also include the category [[Category:AmbassadorsUSA]] on their wiki page... [21:11] 60 days is fair [21:11] But that list is *very* old and has *never* been edited, and we can't simply leave it as is. [21:12] or maybe we should change that to [[Category:NAAmbassadors]] ?? [21:12] I'm ok either way - just not overly enthusiastic about marking possible contributors as deadbeats so fast :) [21:12] <-- hanthana has left this server (Client Quit). [21:12] --> hanthana_ has joined this channel (n=hanthana at conference/mozilla-summit/x-6efd91f7bfb7c836). [21:12] herlo: s/AmbassadorsUSA/Ambassadors_USA/ [21:12] no maybe AmbassadorsNA more intuitive [21:12] either way, just something that makes it easier to categorize [21:12] let's not forget Canada [21:12] inode0: We'll mark good ones "good" without marking bad ones "bad". :) [21:12] inode0: I'm curious what you think is being in a rush/panic? [21:12] inode0: three nagmails over 60 days is probably enough; anyone who hasn't replied by then is "inactive" [21:13] Seriously, even one reply would be enough... that's a pretty low bar. [21:13] ok. [21:13] Moving on? [21:14] gregdek: +1 [21:14] +1 [21:14] +1 [21:14] +1 [21:14] +1 if i have voting powers here [21:14] jds2001: lol [21:14] you do! [21:14] well, one addendum, if I may? [21:14] Shoot. [21:15] what range do we use for voting here? :) [21:15] contacting people is a way of saying, "May be bug you further?" It is a courtesy before flooding them with all kinds of stuff, right? [21:15] [21:15] and +1 to moving on [21:15] quaid: right [21:15] inode0: you are in attendance, you can vote for moving on... [21:15] * Event kit! [21:15] or not! [21:16] ! [21:16] gregdek: I've been giving this some thought [21:16] * quaid defers to herlo [21:16] Hold on. quaid? [21:16] Oh, nm. [21:16] herlo, go ahead. [21:16] specifically regarding some of the conversations that have been going on re: usb sticks and cds [21:17] I think there's room for both and costs can be covered I think based upon the event. For instance, if we're doing a large event, then usb sticks seem to be a good bit of swag [21:17] but for LUGs and other smaller meetings, CDs seem to be the way to go [21:17] herlo, USB install/live media? [21:17] plus providing some posters, and possibly a creation station script typ ething could help [21:17] MadBus: yes [21:18] plus usb sticks are reuseable, if we use generic logo on them, can keep them and reuse for future versions [21:18] herlo, USB might run into some more system compatibility issues than CD [21:18] one thing I will say about logos, they must be printed on the sticks and not simple stickers that fit on the usb sticks [21:18] but other than that it's a great diea [21:18] is each usb stick worth 5-10 CD/DVDs? [21:18] MadBus: agreed, that's why a mix is important [21:18] herlo, +1 [21:18] *idea [21:19] * herlo also thinks a bit of swag, tshirts, stickers, and one or two bits of cool swag should go inside [21:19] +1 to the logos - we want to look professional [21:19] maybe a Fedora bag to give away at evetns... [21:19] ! [21:19] Karlie? [21:19] large events that is [21:19] at on-disk we're doing a load of USB [21:19] Oo! [21:19] the dome tags are very professional and we're also using hang tags [21:20] dome tags are puffy sort of thing [21:20] what about lanyards? Is that a hang tag? [21:20] Karlie: samples? [21:20] the hang tags are shrink plastic with a cord off the back of the stick [21:20] ahh, okay, I know what those are [21:20] * jds2001 still not sure [21:21] I can post an image to the list tomorrow [21:21] ok [21:21] Karlie: that'd be great [21:21] eof [21:21] quaid? [21:21] the one idea I wanted to add (or confirm it is being used) to the event kit idea; [21:21] Care to tell us what we've got to start with? :) [21:21] --> lcafiero has joined this channel (n=larry at h-66-167-204-245.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net). [21:21] here we are :) [21:21] Hello Larry! [21:21] --> d33d has joined this channel (n=d33d at c-24-10-209-91.hsd1.co.comcast.net). [21:22] hey quaid gregdek [21:22] * quaid completes his thought [21:22] * herlo waits patiently [21:22] I did some additions to the EventKit; I have some signage with me, etc. [21:22] but thinking about shipping [21:22] if we had one person per region or a few near major shipping hubs (Kentucky?) [21:22] who had >1 kits worth of materials and could compile a few variations for shipping [21:23] then had an online app to FedEx/UPS to do the shipping labels, request, pickup, etc. [21:23] it could be run from some kind, organized person's garage. [21:23] [21:23] --> jtaber has joined this channel (n=front at 99-203-81-161.area1.spcsdns.net). [21:23] * herlo agrees. I think its a matter of determining what goes into the Event Kit, Is it different each time? [21:23] So we've got two different types of "stuff": [21:23] if Indy is close enuff to Kentucky, I can help with that [21:23] ! [21:23] The persistent stuff (signage, banners, monitors? etc.) [21:23] And the giveaway stuff. [21:24] Kentucky is only one major hub. There are others... [21:24] I think we need to be careful to distinguish between the two, because they almost certainly have different logistical challenges. [21:24] ke4qqq? [21:24] EventBox was supposed to be the regional - Kit was supposed to be to everyone..... [21:24] I'm a simple man. [21:24] I make simple plans. :) [21:24] as an aside quaid I talked with spevack about getting funding for at least a set of banners/signage per region [21:25] So my first question is, "what does Karsten do with his banner when he's done at LinuxWorld?" [21:25] he is supposed to ask Famsco for funding for that [21:25] gregdek: he keeps it [21:25] I suspect all regional ambassadors would handle packing and shipping to start with at least [21:25] herlo: For-EVER? [21:25] he keeps it til it needs to go elsewhere [21:25] gregdek: and its my responsibility to know where it is and get it shpped to the next person [21:25] herlo: As the Western guru? [21:26] i.e. that is a regional banner kit? [21:26] gregdek: if we do otherwise shipping costs double on us. [21:26] or he can shipit back. But I don't see how its valuable to move it around back to me [21:26] Great point. [21:26] +1 to the daisy chain. [21:26] $$ [21:26] it's not - he should keep it and send to me if i need it for example [21:26] its a matter of reporting that you have it, maybe we could have a simple wiki page pointing that out... [21:26] But that implies that we still need three more banner kits -- Central, East, Canada. [21:27] the next Major event gets it [21:27] or not, really, since i'm east - but that's a technicality :) [21:27] * herlo points to the events page [21:27] +1 to simple "Piggy's got the conch" wiki page for event kit. [21:27] herlo: url? [21:27] gregdek: uh...let me make one? [21:27] :) [21:27] * stickster notes to herlo this has to be managed closely, i.e. no "I mailed it, you didn't get it?" stuff. [21:27] you send it on, you send a cc of the tracking #. [21:27] +1 to trackable shipping method [21:27] Handoffs are a bitch. [21:28] stickster: I think its a bit of an honor system, but the regional ambassadors should be in contact with ppl about events at least every couple weeks [21:28] A simple, bulletproof, well-documented policy. [21:28] if we trust them enough to ship them a banner and swag hopefully we can trust them to send it back - but perhaps I am naive. [21:28] *** ianweller_afk is now known as ianweller. [21:28] you dont send it? you pay for another one. [21:28] tracking numbers are good insurance [21:28] gregdek: I'll take that on as a challenge this week to identify how we could do that, wanna add that to the tasks for me? [21:28] herlo: Good man [21:28] * herlo thinks its a good point to move forward... [21:28] +1 [21:28] ! [21:29] * gregdek will add task to herlo. [21:29] gregdek: tx [21:29] We also need to buy other kits. [21:29] Should I add that too? [21:29] one other item - no one from marketing has stepped forward for the slide decks - so I guess I'll do that - unless someone that has some aesthetic capabilities wants to step up? [21:29] other kits? [21:30] Other kits. [21:30] We have one set of banners right now. [21:30] ke4qqq: i would start from the simple community architecture one [21:30] AIUI, we need one set of banners per region. [21:30] Did I misunderstand? [21:30] ke4qqq: just use the four f's backgrounds when they come out (are they out?) [21:30] no, but famsco hasn't approved funds yet [21:31] but tentatively that's true [21:31] gregdek: kits v eventbox I think is the issue [21:31] herlo: If it has I haven't seen it [21:31] define a "kit [21:31] " [21:31] * herlo chuckles [21:31] the eventbox is this thing we've been talking about, right? [21:32] TIME FOR A DEFINITION OF TERMS! :) [21:32] jds2001: I suppose so. Kits are more of something *every* ambassador will just have on hand and can order as needed [21:32] kits include: a few CDs/DVDs, stickers and maybe a tshirt or somethign small to giveaway [21:32] EVENTBOX = persistent. Banners plus "other stuff" that needs to go to every event. Is this right? [21:32] right [21:33] How many EVENTBOX do we haz? [21:33] * herlo guesses 0 [21:33] big event, small events can be managed with kits I think [21:33] Not so! [21:33] 0.5 [21:33] quaid has one right now! We had to get banners printed for OSCON. [21:33] * ianweller looks around and wonders what's going on [21:33] NA Ambassador meeting [21:33] join the fun! [21:33] So we've got a miniEVENTBOX that will become a Real EVENTBOX. [21:33] quaid: gregdek: okay, what's in it right now? [21:33] Four banners. [21:34] what about a usb creation station? [21:34] could we add that too them? [21:34] doesnt the ambassador provide that? [21:34] One big Fedora banner, three banners with the old "freedom/infinity/voice" themes. [21:34] im on a "usb creation station" right now :) [21:34] jds2001: +1. :) [21:34] jds2001: true, just not sure how that's working [21:35] So miniEVENTBOX currently has 4 banners. [21:35] What else goes into miniEVENTBOX to make it Real EVENTBOX? [21:35] For now, anyway? [21:35] probably some four F's posters [21:35] gregdek: I think we shoudl have some Ambassador Kits in there for ambassadors who might show up to help. They could take one home with them.. refilling those shouldn't be too difficult [21:35] maybe instead of kit vs box - could make 2-4 categories of events such as user group talk, mini conference, bigger conference(ie booth) [21:35] hi all [21:35] meeting still going? [21:35] sheets for contributor signup howto (the form emea uses?) [21:35] herlo: are you referring to EVENTBOX? [21:36] gregdek: I am [21:36] jtaber: welcome [21:36] f13, yup [21:36] Then you are suggesting multiple EVENTBOX? [21:36] How many? [21:37] 2 [21:37] I don't see any reason for more than a couple [21:37] gregdek: more like an EVENTBOX with kits inside. Just one part of the EVENTBOX [21:37] at least [21:37] +1 ke4qqq / inode0 [21:38] OSCON and Ottawa occurred too closely together to ship/carry [21:38] That will happen again. [21:38] exactly [21:38] and kits should be plentiful and available from regional ambassadors to easily refill quickly [21:38] OK. [21:38] So: [21:38] maybe a few [21:38] herlo, +1 [21:38] EVENTBOX x 2... [21:38] KIT x as many as we can afford? [21:38] * herlo is scared. That's his region :) [21:39] * gregdek is trying to drive to *exactly* what we're proposing to produce. [21:39] So forgive my didacticism. :) [21:39] gregdek: shrinkwrapped kits should be reproducible, once we decide what's inside [21:39] Kit is stickers, media, perhaps shirts, new contributor howto sheets [21:39] right [21:40] pens? [21:40] pens are cheap [21:40] what happened to the banner that we had above our table at the summit? is that in EVENTBOX already? [21:40] why not have a go kit? something simple and flat - easy to mail [21:40] working out kit details is a good list activity [21:40] what is *not* in a kit but in an EVENTBOX [21:40] quaid: So long as it happens in a trackable way. [21:41] gregdek: I mean, details of contents [21:41] basic paper type objects - stickers, forms, etc and leave the rest to an as-needed basis [21:41] N pens, Y shirts, etc. [21:41] Karlie: yeah, that's kind of the idea. Something small enough that it can be mailed with a small amounts of shipping [21:41] cost [21:41] My fear is that we will meander. At some point, we need to come to closure and figure out what we're asking of FAMSCO, and this is the kind of painful detail conversation that tends to die onlist, ime. [21:41] my ubuntu locos go bananas for stickers [21:41] Media comes from us [21:42] the rest is event specific [21:42] <-- lxo has left this server (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). [21:42] assign that to herlo and I as a task - we'll consult the list but have it done by next meeting [21:42] :) [21:42] Done and done. [21:42] * gregdek goes to update task list. [21:42] While I'm doing that... [21:42] * CDs and FAMSCO. [21:43] ok I'll update [21:43] iwolf isn't here [21:43] he said FAMSCo is batting the idea around, no conclusion yet, but meeting this week so perhaps we'll know then. [21:43] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Drafts/NA/Tools [21:43] eof [21:43] Sorry I'm new here: Can individual ambassadors add things to kits? Reason I ask: Cabrillo College usually makes up materials for events, and they did a Fedora event in May. [21:44] lcafiero: yes [21:44] Cabrillo College GNU/Linux Users Group [21:44] lcafiero: this is just to provide a uniform set of minimum things needed easily [21:44] lets start adding items to that page, I'll garden it and start a discussion on list [21:44] k [21:44] * herlo need another assignment :) [21:44] --> lxo has joined this channel (n=aoliva at 201.82.112.27). [21:45] * herlo adds the page to his growing watch list. [21:45] sounds like moving forward time :) [21:45] yes [21:45] I'd say that any individual can augment their list with whatever they want. :) [21:45] gregdek: to a point [21:46] well, wait, I see what you mean [21:46] +1 gregdek [21:46] You pay for it, you give it out! No problem from me! :) [21:46] they can create anythign they want nearby and include it sure [21:46] good wiki page - a schedule of events would be good - also shows progress [21:46] jtaber: evetns pages is already available [21:46] OK, moving on. Moving on? [21:46] Ready? [21:46] +1 [21:46] +1 [21:46] +1 [21:47] * Ambassador Presence on Fedora Forums [21:47] jtaber: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events [21:47] This should be a good one! [21:47] oh boy! [21:47] Who proposed this one? [21:47] I did [21:47] * herlo runs away again [21:47] after hearing the complaints on the list [21:47] what role do you want them to play? [21:47] * jds2001 hides [21:48] the problems listed are prima facie Ambassador material - we are supposed to be the interface with the community, and 100k is more than we'll ever see at an event [21:48] darn your stinking logic! [21:48] at the same time webforums scare me as well - hard to manage. [21:48] * herlo doesn't disagree [21:48] * jds2001 willing to help i guess [21:48] but it is hard to manage [21:48] what were the complaints? I might have missed that [21:48] this is not "help solve a specific tech problem" but [21:48] be an interface to the rest of Fedora? [21:48] I don't think we have to *manage* it [21:49] I think rather, we can point people in the right direction as we can. [21:49] herlo: right; be named resources for forum staff and have a presence to show you answer stuff [21:49] ambassadors presence in #Fedora is good too [21:49] maybe we should consider an initiative to get ambassadors and others to participate 1 hour a week [21:49] since im not sure what the perceived disconnection is, i cant really help (though im more than willing to try and solve whatever problems might exizst) [21:49] or 1hr a month [21:49] or communicate the 'pulse' upstream to devs or docs or..... [21:49] * quaid is looking up the thread [21:50] MadBus: that's a totally different animal, but I don't disagree [21:50] jds2001 et al: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2008-July/msg00216.html [21:50] * inode0 is a bit disoriented [21:50] Problem: [21:50] inode0: put your head between your knees and breathe. :) [21:51] fedoraforum.org is a large community of Fedorans who don't have a formal connection to the rest of the project? [21:51] <-- Sparks has left this channel. [21:51] Whose fault is that? [21:51] Ours, I think. [21:51] "Formal connection"... what does that mean? [21:51] eh [21:51] last I checked it was formal [21:51] here's an example [21:51] yeah I agree - if nothing else we should be that connection. [21:51] in that thread, ppl said forum folk do not feel they are valued as a resource [21:51] Hm! [21:52] e.g., a link on the front of fp.o isn't "enough" [21:52] That's a problem. [21:52] right, and I expect part of it is simply presence [21:52] every time I ask about a forum for users to discuss stuff, its fedoraforum.org [21:52] A fair point. Ubuntu does a good job at this particular thing. [21:52] --> qcai has joined this channel (n=qcai at 60.247.97.97). [21:52] being there with a badge on your forum ID, "Fedora Ambassador" [21:52] and this may be larger than what we can deal with - but at the least we can try and make an appearance. [21:52] gregdek: they also own it [21:52] and run it [21:52] and babysit it [21:52] Well, we've got this tricky thing: [21:52] and reward people for doing so [21:53] atta boy's but still [21:53] herlo: we can do the latter :) [21:53] +1 [21:53] fedoraforum.org is a great neutral ground, completely unaffiliated with RH, where folks can safely talk about Things That One Must Not Talk About. [21:53] Which makes "formal" affiliation a bit tricky. [21:53] --> alexxed has joined this channel (n=alex at conference/mozilla-summit/x-fbc10b6e1cc8bce4). [21:53] so here is a thought that we've been kicking around [21:53] gregdek: well, now [21:54] gregdek: I don't think it's like that; what we have for linking out is good [21:54] FAS could have something of a karma system, that loosely tracks various things like IRC karma, and forum karma, and whatever karma [21:54] but we don't really say as much as we can, "this is a great community of Fedorans ready to help you,etc." [21:54] f13: +1 [21:54] the people helping out in those various areas will inevitibly gain karma of some sort [21:55] we can also have the kudos wall, where people in the community can drop little snippits of kudos to folks, and like planet, they would be aggregated to a site [21:55] * gregdek thinks. [21:55] recalls acknowledging #rhel people at the summit - was a great success I think [21:55] f13, adding karma was discussed at a #fedora meeting recently [21:55] How do we link ff.org folks to accounts in fas? Do we bother? [21:55] For karma purposes? [21:55] now I'm one of those losers who is suggesting something, without being able to produce code to back it up. [21:55] my question is, are these people who are currently answering questions on ff.o already part of the fp.o? [21:56] gregdek: ff.org members could list their FAS account link for the sake of karma additions [21:56] herlo: some may not be [21:56] that's what I was getting at +1 gregdek [21:56] herlo: im sure that some are [21:56] in fact, many are probably not [21:56] we should encourage them to become a part then... [21:56] which might mean that the kudo wall feeds from forums as well [21:56] even if its only to get the karma [21:56] if their software supports any such thing [21:56] I know we're exposing more apis from fas every day... [21:56] yeah we are potentially missing tons of contributors [21:57] I really want to see [21:57] * herlo wants to promote those api's, but actually doesn't know *anything* about them... [21:57] the wiki being used by fforum.org and #fedora [21:57] and I bet they will, given the chance and proper help/guidance [21:57] quaid: yeah they just need a gentle shove...... [21:58] ke4qqq: we're almost ready with the initial guidelines [21:58] quaid: I think the idea of getting a few ambassadors on ff.o and starting to point to links on fp.o/wiki will help with that [21:58] * quaid tries not to look at ianweller, who will expose his dirty lie. [21:58] herlo: +1 [21:58] whut [21:59] So it's easy to boil the ocean here. What can we do now/soon? [21:59] ianweller: I'm claiming we are almost ready for squadrons of fforum.org wiki writers [21:59] So - do we add that as aNA requirement - have a ff account? start spending an hour per week? [21:59] 1. Ask Ambasadors to do time/week on the forum [21:59] * herlo thinks we can make that another area where ambassadors should live (and not just NA Ambassadors) [21:59] quaid: via what, openid or FAS? [21:59] 2. have a set of common and useful links to spread -- Help:Wiki_Editing, Join, etc. [21:59] ke4qqq: 1hr/month [21:59] to start [22:00] -1 for doing time [22:00] ianweller: exactly, whichever is ready [22:00] * ke4qqq repeatedly recalls hearing people complaining that no events were in their area - this gives them involvement. [22:00] Karlie: "some?" [22:00] please don't require people to do things they may not want to do [22:00] * gregdek has to go afk for a bit... bbiab [22:00] I'm zero at tech skills [22:00] its not a requirement [22:00] "Ask" is what I said :) [22:00] i'm a marketing/sales kind of girl [22:00] its just another thing an ambassador (can)( do [22:00] herlo: +1 [22:00] Karlie: good point [22:00] ! [22:01] hanging out at FF would be dreadful for me [22:01] -1 for time, I'm busy enough in Fedora as is :) [22:01] I'd like to point out that Ambassador involvement on the forum shouldn't be seen as tech support [22:01] * inode0 saw the word requirement right before you said ask :) [22:01] +1 quaid [22:01] And here we have the problem. [22:01] we need to document this, what we are ASKing for and suggesting.... [22:01] I am on #lindependence most of the day, I can visit #fedora or wherever and monitor [22:01] the involvement should be as a rep -- point people to stuff that exists, docs, freemedia, etc. [22:01] What if we give Field Promotions to the folks at ff.o who are *already* kicking ass by helping folks? [22:02] gregdek: yes, but that is a different thing [22:02] "The Fedora Helpers SIG" or something [22:02] define a "Field Promotion" :) [22:02] Ambassador requires intention [22:02] that doesn't inherently make them more connected [22:02] just provides a title [22:02] So let me ask this: [22:02] "You did me a damn good turn, Sharpe, so now I'm going to do you a damn bad one!" [22:02] oh, I completely support giving ambassadors tasks that they could choose - being lost is a terrible thing when one wants to do something [22:02] Is it actually a good idea for Ambassadors to take on this duty, if precious few of the ambassadors here actually want to do it? [22:03] is anyone actually against it? [22:03] I think there is a "what this task is" definition problem [22:03] "this task" == "be the front end for #fedora or ff.o" [22:03] ? [22:03] and, as was said, this is a good way to do events without travel :) [22:03] * jds2001 not against it [22:03] Of course no one is *against* it. But who's actually going to *do* it? [22:03] how about "be an interface to fp.o" [22:03] look [22:03] I'll troll through the forum [22:04] once a week [22:04] looking for major stuff [22:04] What ever happened to the task list idea for Seneca College? Is that still going strong? [22:04] but we do need the Staff [22:04] etc., to bring things to our attention [22:04] shouldn't we have a task list too? [22:04] yeah we need to make contact with ff.o staff. [22:04] things that *need* to get done, things that *can* get done, etc. Not a list of what we're doing, but ongoing things [22:05] herlo, +1 [22:05] the musts (FAS, CLA) the shoulds (planet feed) and the cans (events, ff.o monitoring) [22:05] when I was with the red cross we defined it as Must services, Should services and Can services [22:05] sounds good to me [22:06] ke4qqq: and f am meetings could go under the shoulds [22:06] ke4qqq: I likes [22:06] +1 Karlie [22:06] I may draft a page for next meeting [22:06] ke4qqq: lets add this to the NA Tasks [22:06] for YOU! :) [22:06] +1 must, should, can [22:07] <-- ldimaggi_ has left this server ("Leaving"). [22:07] herlo: ok [22:07] ke4qqq: So what am I adding, exactly? [22:08] :) that I'll document musts, shoulds, cans for NA Ambassadors [22:08] Okeydoke. [22:08] and have ready for review by next meeting [22:08] ke4qqq: I'll help you, just ping me [22:08] ohhh another task for herlo? [22:09] Which covers the agenda topic "Ambassador Presence on Fedora Forums", I presume? [22:09] yes [22:09] OK. [22:09] Then moving on? [22:09] ke4qqq: no, I'm just a particularly online guy [22:09] gregdek: +1 [22:09] yes [22:09] * Fedora Ambassadors Day! [22:09] yay! [22:09] yay! [22:09] Lets have one! [22:09] FAD - iwolf is absent - he is planning on setting up a FAD and Ohio Linux Fest - promises email and wiki page soon [22:09] woot [22:10] +1 [22:10] * herlo votes for that day [22:10] * inode0 agrees [22:10] s/and/at [22:10] hmm, i'd love to go [22:10] but somehow plane tickets are expensive right now [22:10] * jds2001 could probably muster it though [22:10] * herlo wondres one thing, is it possible to get some event funding to have a NA FAD every year? Kind of like a mini-FUDCon for Ambassdors? [22:10] <-- Sonar_Gal has left this server ("Leaving"). [22:11] why not do it *at* FUDCon [22:11] I would expect, yes, increasingly over time [22:11] not a ton, just a little to get those there that can't? [22:11] Yes, why not do it at FUDCon? [22:11] or hlep in some form [22:11] * herlo isn't against that, just there isn't one left for 2008 [22:11] * jds2001 also committed to Central PA opensource conference or somesuch [22:11] FUDCon, thta is [22:12] maybe we can get a corporate sponsorship, like from Vans -- "Fedora Ambassadors eXtreme Daze!!" [22:12] quaid: FAXD? [22:12] lol [22:12] haha [22:12] not having FAD at FUDcon has some plusses [22:13] I think we could do this one at LFO, and then do one in the Raleigh FUDCon's every year after that? [22:13] assuming it is colocated with another conference [22:13] we can have it in my back yard :-D [22:13] --> Sonar_Gal has joined this channel (n=Andrea at fedora/SonarGal). [22:13] Karlie: where do you live again? [22:13] Karlie: where you at? :) [22:13] rochest [22:13] rochester ny [22:13] NY would be nice [22:13] by the lake [22:13] hop skip and a jump for me [22:13] hella expensive though [22:13] * jds2001 in NYC metro [22:13] not the city the state [22:14] FUDcon never leaves one part of the country, which is a bit of an issue to some [22:14] I"m closer to toronto than nyc [22:14] What other conferences do people want to go to? [22:14] inode0: that's a good point [22:14] may change with the summit though [22:14] Linux World? Short notice, I know [22:14] gregdek: you're handling the logistics for the Central PA one, right? [22:14] NY is far for us Californians [22:14] we could meet in the middle [22:14] Chicago? [22:14] * herlo thinks FAD should maybe be Regional? [22:15] OH is considered MidWest isn't it? [22:15] gregdek: the cons that make sense to me for Fedora is FUDCon, RH Summit to an extent, Linux Symposium, OSCon, SCALE, (Linux Fest Northwest) [22:15] one every 6 months in a region... [22:15] jds2001: I think that loupgaroublond is taking over that event. [22:15] ke4qqq: it is [22:15] f13: Yeah, that's a good list. [22:15] * ke4qqq wonders if there are enough ambassadors in each region for that at this point. We aren't like France yet. [22:15] ke4qqq: not by people from the Midwest :) [22:15] * herlo points to UTOSC :) for f13 and gregdek (shameless self-promotion) [22:15] UTOSC? [22:15] f13: check the events page [22:15] Utah. [22:16] Utah Open Source Conference [22:16] Heh. [22:16] oh, there is also a show that Chris Tyler was advertising. [22:16] Yeah, that will be a big one too. [22:16] So let's have a FAD at EVERY EVENT! [22:16] Sigh. [22:16] +10 in binary [22:16] lol, I think my idea was a good one... [22:16] herlo: ah right, so there are things like UTOSC, Indiana has a show, uh.. [22:16] Ohio, Ontario . . . [22:16] I thikn there are a lot of regional shows like that, and I would lump Linux Fest Northwest into it. [22:16] so every event = drinks someplace? wait that's what we do now [22:16] f13: we're only in year two, and we're growing massively... [22:17] why not start with OLF, try to get as many there as possible for a kickoff ... [22:17] I see mostly thee catagories of shows [22:17] f13, Indiana has a show? [22:17] FWIW I think FUDCon is right place - those that can get together at UTOS or Ohio so much the better [22:17] Regional FADs don't have to coincide with events, but there are enough opportunities probalby [22:17] there are the major shows like FUDCon and RH Summit, then there are the larger shows that people travel for, like (O)LS, OScon, SCALE, and then there are the more regional shows that draw from, well, a region, like ohio, utos, lfnw, etc.. [22:18] and it'd be nice to get some ppl coming from other regions on occasion. [22:18] f13: yeah, it seems to me that regional shows is where FADs could be held. [22:19] MadBus: they did in '07 http://www.ussg.iu.edu/linuxfest/ [22:19] So where are we on this conversation? Regional FADs, maybe? [22:19] Utah can be the France of NA Ambassadors. :) [22:19] MadBus: also many previous years. I spoke at one 'round the FC2/3 era [22:19] gregdek: uh... [22:19] okay... [22:19] herlo: makes sense to me, capturing the A's of the region [22:19] f13, cool, I'll look into that with IU [22:20] * stickster just fell asleep in front of computer, now deserting [22:20] gregdek: iwolf proposed one - nothing else other than the announcement. shall we vote on that proposal - or vote to do one at next fudcon? [22:20] lets put this as an item to add to the ml this week and see where it goes? [22:20] +1 [22:20] Sure. [22:20] Who's got the ball? [22:20] which? [22:20] the big beach ball [22:21] seriosuly, regional FAD's I guess [22:21] let's see what iWolf sends out and maybe discuss it a bit on the list?! [22:21] * herlo hits at it, but misses. Damned uncoordinated ambassador arms! [22:21] list +1 [22:21] that's ok, mine's busted [22:21] (arm that is) [22:22] jds2001: still? [22:22] and I thought it was the shoulder [22:22] oh yeah. had surgery about a month ago [22:22] I read [22:22] yeah, it's the shoulder [22:22] topic? [22:22] gregdek: we'll await iwolf announcement and assign the task to him [22:22] All righty. [22:22] Moving on? [22:22] *** stickster is now known as stickster_afk. [22:22] yes [22:22] yep [22:22] +1 [22:22] * Events! [22:23] * gregdek likes the idea of discussing events monthly and making that the SOLE topic for that meeting, fwiw. [22:23] * herlo is here because this section will be exciting! [22:23] * ianweller commences lurking [22:23] gregdek: lets do it [22:23] btw, this hopefully isn't event report...... though perhaps at the monthly meeting....but what we could do better for past events and whats needed for future ones. [22:23] gregdek: 1st meeting of the month? [22:24] herlo: That could work. [22:24] What do other folks think? [22:24] +1 to that, makes sense [22:24] +1 [22:24] +9 (9 is our range right?) [22:24] lol [22:24] * herlo points out that it would be next week [22:24] +1 [22:24] +1 [22:25] +1 [22:25] Then let's talk events next week! [22:25] so are we tabling that til next week [22:25] * herlo will adjust the meetings page with this detail.. [22:25] herlo: \o/ [22:25] One note though - we MUST get any events for next quarter on by aug 1 [22:26] True dat. [22:26] so if you want a release party, or $event and need stuff for it, it needs to be on the list [22:26] thats only a couple days away - [22:26] * jds2001 would love to do a NYC release party [22:26] dcolish: you in for that? [22:27] absolutely! [22:27] I'll also note that EMEA has almost 4x the number of events, LATAM 2 or 3x and APAC even has more than we do. [22:27] pick a date, just not aug 7th [22:27] is it possible to just budget some amount for all release parties and let them organize later? [22:27] * MadBus would love to do an Indy release party. [22:27] dcolish: sometime after release :) [22:27] October timeframe [22:27] ha, oops [22:27] gregdek: thoughts on inode0's question? [22:27] as we get more ambassadors involved this might be a good first event but they perhaps won't be on the bus by the 1st [22:28] gregdek: ke4qqq if we add an event, does it have to have a date? [22:28] it does have to have an owner - and it will be in a given quarter by definition I suppose [22:28] I think I can say that I'd want an installfest/release party in mid/late November, but I don't have the dates solid yet [22:29] * gregdek brb [22:29] neither do I - planning a quarter our is difficult [22:29] * herlo thinks it will actually be in Idaho because we're getting a good bit of interest from there... [22:30] s/ahead/our/ [22:30] Hm. Budget questions. [22:30] It's a bit of chicken and egg. [22:30] We need to at least take a guess. How many release parties? How much per party? [22:30] I can plan a quarter ahead, just can't guarantee the *exact* date.... [22:30] And I must admit that I'm not up on the latest numbers for that stuff in EMEA. [22:31] can we get some estimates from previous parties? [22:31] This sounds like a FAMSCO question. [22:31] gregdek: what was last quarter's budget for that? [22:31] we could semi-base it on previous numbers [22:31] so the action item for people is: put up a release party on the event page with details you know now so we get budget for it. [22:31] IF you'll be having one [22:31] we need to blog about it/put it on the ml [22:32] today/tomorrow [22:32] yep! [22:32] * herlo sidesteps and lets others take this one... [22:32] sorry all, but I have to go get my beauty sleep [22:32] I'll blog and post mailing list [22:32] Karlie: sleep well [22:33] ty - good night [22:33] <-- Karlie has left this channel. [22:33] All right, it's probably time for me to bail too, actually. [22:33] I've got to get some presentation stuff done for tomorrow still. [22:33] <-- dcolish has left this server ("dinner time"). [22:33] Do others want to continue? [22:33] this is the last item and I think we have our action item [22:33] What's left? [22:33] i'm here [22:33] lcafiero: this is it [22:34] but if we have AOB [22:34] we can continue [22:34] AOB? [22:34] Any other business [22:34] * herlo tried to figure it out first, I promise [22:34] heh [22:34] * quaid thinks 1.5 hrs is enuff :) [22:34] ke4qqq: you and I could go for another hour easy. [22:35] yeah. [22:35] quaid =1 [22:35] +1 [22:35] quaid: I tried to keep it to 10minutes per item but ....ohhh well [22:35] (sticking shift key) [22:35] people ignored my admon [22:35] one more question [22:35] ke4qqq: I didn't [22:36] people excepting herlp [22:36] herlo [22:36] * herlo tried to move things forward. I think part of it is that we're still getting going again. This was very successful [22:36] yeah I have no complaints [22:36] letters going out to old ambassadors should include anything specific? or general hello, can we help you do some stuff? [22:36] inode0: your question? [22:36] Good meeting [22:36] as we continue forward, we'll have a better rhythm [22:36] inode0: we have a formmail if you'd like to use it [22:36] yeah, lots to cover, takes time, all good! [22:36] inode0: I'll send you what I am sending (herlo edited it heavily - actually reauthored it) [22:36] ke4qqq: lol, yeah [22:37] ok, thanks [22:38] anything else from anyone? [22:38] not much discussion as to what could be done on campuses - maybe if no one else working I'll see what i can do [22:38] jtaber: there is lots of discussion going on around that [22:38] jtaber: that's coming, we should put that on the agenda for two weeks from now [22:38] Did I miss that item? [22:38] jtaber: inode0 has discussed that heavily [22:38] yeah, it's YetAnotherImportantTopic [22:38] <--- president of college lug [22:38] * quaid is about to drift out of here [22:39] quaid: thanks for attending [22:39] * gregdek comes back. [22:39] jtaber: quaid: we have discussions going on, but It'd be nice if there were a way for us to focus on that sort of thing as well [22:39] Looking for work items I failed to document... [22:39] lets put several outreach topics on future agendas [22:39] * herlo looks at gregdek's list [22:39] try to get jack to speak with us about campus outreach [22:40] inode0: I think the next few agendas are up (right herlo?) feel free to add them to the agenda. [22:40] also other community outreach, NPOs etc. [22:40] inode0: i just sent you what ke4qqq sent me [22:40] ke4qqq: they aren't, but I can do that tonight [22:40] inode0: also if it's something that requires lots of discussion input ML could be better. [22:40] gregdek: I think some things are missing, who's gonna post this on the list btw and od the summary? [22:40] *do [22:41] I'll do post and summary. [22:41] campus outreach is tricky since there is something of an official effort underway that we don't know details of [22:41] FAD isn't on the task list for iWolf [22:41] inode0: EMAIL JACK NOW. [22:41] herlo: I thought you said wait...? [22:42] gregdek: he needs to announce and that was ke4qqq who said wait [22:42] we're waiting for him [22:42] him == iWolf [22:43] gregdek: another task list item, Remind ppl on ml about q3 budgets for events / release parties, etc [22:43] and blogs too [22:43] * gregdek edits... [22:43] ke4qqq: any other items I missed? still scrolling back From david at gnsa.us Wed Jul 30 03:32:48 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:32:48 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassadors Meeting 2008-07-30 Meeting Summary Message-ID: Greg DeKoenigsberg led the meeting - around 20 participants showed up. We initially discussed action items from last week: *Contacting NA Ambassadors - report from Clint Savage, John Rose and David Nalley that this was still much in progress. *Toolkit and Eventbox - Much discussion ensued and resulted in definition of the terms EventBox and Event Kit as follows: EventBox = persistent. Banners plus "other stuff" that needs to go to every event. EventKit = more of something *every* ambassador will just have on hand and can order as needed In addition Clint Savage and David Nalley were tasked with defining what was contained in each by next meeting. Further Clint Savage was tasked with defining how shipping an EventBox would work and be tracked so as to keep it accountable. *Outsourcing CDs - Jeffrey Tadlock was absent but reported via email that the idea was still being considered by FAmSCo. *Presence of Ambassadors on Fedora Forums. - Discussion centered around purpose (ie Ambassadors aren't responsible to provide tech support, but are to point to resources and act as the public face of Fedora on the forums. It was suggested that this was an ideal way for those who aren't near/can't attend conferences to get involved with the Ambassadors.) Out of this discussion came the necessity for defining "Musts", "Shoulds" and "Coulds" for NA Ambassadors and was tasked to David Nalley. *Fedora Ambassadors Day - Jeffrey Tadlock wasn't present to propose FAD at OLF, but discussion ensued about when and where and if to regionalize. In the end we decided to wait for public announcement by Jeffrey Tadlock and evaluate at that point. *Events - To keep us from getting weighed down with event content we decided to push events to the first meeting of each month and to table further event discussions til next week. It was noted that we needed to add any events to the schedule for budgeting. Discussion ensued about how firm such events must be given that several would like to host F10 release parties but didn't have details as of yet. Consensus was to add release parties if committed to holding them with as much detail as possible and update as needed. Following the above 1.5+ hours of discussion the meeting quietly concluded. From fcrippa at byte-code.com Wed Jul 30 08:09:14 2008 From: fcrippa at byte-code.com (Francesco Crippa) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:09:14 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] italian linux day (25th October 2008) In-Reply-To: <176483939.46211217405261245.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <587741701.46231217405354779.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> ----- "Luca Foppiano" wrote: > On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 14:13 +0200, Luca Foppiano wrote: > > > If you have any suggestion about any aspect of my report, tell me > ;-) > > Did anybody (who live outside Italy) read my mail? No feedback? apparentrly not ;-) But for me it's +1. Today we'll try to write a page (@wiki) to describe our budget request. Take care francesco -- Francesco Crippa fcrippa at byte-code.com http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa From david at gnsa.us Wed Jul 30 11:38:40 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:38:40 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassadors: Reminder to post events for Q3 Message-ID: Just a quick reminder/encouragement to post events on the events page if you need any resources. Aug 1st is the deadline for it to be considered in the Q3 budget - so please take a look at events happening around you and list an event if you want to represent Fedora there. Keep in mind the F10 release occurs in Q3, so any release parties need to be listed as well. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#North_America_2 From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jul 30 11:41:35 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:41:35 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Pre-made presentations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, rafael liu wrote: > What do you think about getting a session with the slides, organized > by subject and maybe depth with the guidelines on how the presentation > should flow? Slides made thinking about it, standardize, updated, > revised by experts on that area in the community. It may seem like I'm > talking in favor of dumb, incapable people, but it's really because > there are those of us with the willing but without directions. I would be happy to work with you. The workflow seems clear to me: 1) Inventory all pages on the wiki where we have presentations. - /Presentations - /CommunityArchitecture/Presentations - Others? 2) Consolidate everything into one page, probably living at /Presentations 3) Create a /Presentations/Archive for old or outdated talks. 4) Inventory the "current" talks into categories based on subject matter or "potential audience", and have a clear description, owner, and "last updated" field for each talk. Do this in a way that makes it easy for someone to take a slide deck, translate it, and make that translation available as well. 5) Designate someone (I volunteer) to be the overall gatekeeper who makes sure that the content we are making available is current, and that old presentations are archived when it's time. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jul 30 11:41:40 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:41:40 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassadors Meeting 2008-07-30 Meeting Summary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, David Nalley wrote: > *Outsourcing CDs - Jeffrey Tadlock was absent but reported via email > that the idea was still being considered by FAmSCo. Here is some data, for what it's worth: For Fedora 9, in North America we (meaning I) got 3,000 CDs and 2,000 DVDs for a total of $8,175. If you do the math, that is $1.635 per disk. Another item worth remembering: FAMSCo's budget for Q3 events & swag is $15,000, which needs to service the entire world. So it is highly unlikely that a bulk sum of multiple thousands of dollars will be set aside special for Fedora 10 CDs and DVDs in North America. The on-demand model is a far better way to enable individual event owners (who will have their own budgets carved out for them) to get what they want, when they want it. I expect that starting March 2009 (beginning of the next fiscal year), we'll be able to get more money for the global event fund. It will certainly be put into the Community Architecture budget proposal for next year at a higher number -- the number was higher this year in our initial request, but during the finalization of budget, a number of our items had to be reduced a little bit. --Max From karlie_robinson at webpath.net Wed Jul 30 11:44:07 2008 From: karlie_robinson at webpath.net (Karlie Robinson) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:44:07 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassadors Meeting 2008-07-30 IRC Log In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48905407.2080704@webpath.net> David Nalley wrote: > [21:19] ! > [21:19] Karlie? > [21:19] large events that is > [21:19] at on-disk we're doing a load of USB > [21:19] Oo! > [21:19] the dome tags are very professional and we're also > using hang tags > [21:20] dome tags are puffy sort of thing > [21:20] what about lanyards? Is that a hang tag? > [21:20] Karlie: samples? > [21:20] the hang tags are shrink plastic with a cord off the > back of the stick > [21:20] ahh, okay, I know what those are > [21:20] * jds2001 still not sure > [21:21] I can post an image to the list tomorrow > [21:21] ok > [21:21] Karlie: that'd be great > [21:21] eof Now I remember why I didn't have a link to share with you last night - the picture I have on file is pretty crappy. http://www.webpath.net/data/files//usbtag.jpg They do look better in person and if that's the route you want to go, I can share with you (off list) how I made them. And yes, I seem to be turning into the Martha Stewart of the Linux world. The dome tags - http://www.dometag.com/ - are also a very professional way to go. They're more than a simple sticker and I've used them in the past. (case badges - when cases had badge spots) Both of these methods would allow you to custom brand a USB without custom printing every single drive. You could also consider tags as SWAG items to be added to BYOUSB at Events. Ambassadors could sell USB at cost (cost recovery) and use any ole computer to load the sticks. Once done, you brand it with either type of tag. Also, we're finding that Kingston is the most reliable USB for Linux. There are sticks that will claim to work with certain kernels, but usually it's only for lower storage - ie under 2gig. As far as price, my main wholesaler is usually more expensive than Amazon.com or other retailers, so even we're shopping for USB deals when our stock runs low. ~Karlie From chendra at fedoraproject.org Wed Jul 30 16:24:09 2008 From: chendra at fedoraproject.org (JohnChendra) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:24:09 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Indonesia Message-ID: <7660c38c0807300924t5461215dwbba9f738ee71ed5@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, I would like to report a good progress in Indonesian Fedora community. We are now building a forum and still in coordination with each other to promote fedora to our environments. Just this afternoon around 1 PM (Indonesian time), I'm meeting with 2 of the community member from Bandung, they are very active Fedora users and has been helping users from Indonesia to use fedora. We are all now co-relate and colaborate in fedora.or.id a picture of this meeting can be seen in http://forum.fedora.or.id/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17.0;attach=12;image Well that's my report for now, thank you for reading :) cheers, John -- http://john.chendra.net/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From luca at foppiano.org Wed Jul 30 18:43:07 2008 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:43:07 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 9 CD/DVDs Message-ID: <1217443387.3493.7.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> Hi all, I sent a mail few day ago about Italian Linux Day that will be on October 25th. We will bet on Fedora USB fill station, but we wish to have also CD/DVDs to give away, we won't to spend money to print CDs.. there are still Fedora 9 CD/DVDs left? Unfortunately, we can't provide Fedora 10, because it will come out about few days after October 25th . I hope someone can reply to me. thanks luca -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 65th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3174 Q: Why did the astrophysicist order three hamburgers? A: Because he was hungry. From luca at foppiano.org Wed Jul 30 18:56:38 2008 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:56:38 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] italian linux day (25th October 2008) In-Reply-To: <587741701.46231217405354779.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <587741701.46231217405354779.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <1217444198.3493.12.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 10:09 +0200, Francesco Crippa wrote: > apparentrly not ;-) > > But for me it's +1. > Today we'll try to write a page (@wiki) to describe our budget request. Here a page on fedora wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxDay/LinuxDay2008 I'm still working on it. Luca -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 65th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3174 As Zeus said to Narcissus, "Watch yourself." From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 19:13:04 2008 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:13:04 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] italian linux day (25th October 2008) In-Reply-To: <1217372005.3485.5.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> References: <1217074437.3934.37.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> <1217372005.3485.5.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> Message-ID: <7a0d56080807301213g6617ce08k6895933a0f2f5c6@mail.gmail.com> Luca -- I can't provide any feedback regarding Fedora, other than I think the "kit" idea is a good one, but as far as the project in Italy goes, I have been in contact with Ercole Carpanetto (who blogs as Ercolinux) during the course of our Lindependence 2008 project in Felton, California. Ercole is organizing Mappano Open Days, and you may know where that is moreso than I do, which is part of the 100 events on that September weekend In Lindependence (which is Linux + Independence = Lindependence), we provided three days of FOSS and GNU/Linux to one town of 6,000 in the Santa Cruz Mountains in California. To do what you are doing in Italy in 100 towns is 100 times the effect of Lindependence. That is clearly awesome Or: +100 My (Fedora) hat is off to you all. Larry Cafiero http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Lcafiero On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Luca Foppiano wrote: > On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 14:13 +0200, Luca Foppiano wrote: > >> If you have any suggestion about any aspect of my report, tell me ;-) > > Did anybody (who live outside Italy) read my mail? No feedback? > > Luca > -- > Today is Sweetmorn, the 65th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3174 > > I want to reach your mind -- where is it currently located? > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From luca at foppiano.org Wed Jul 30 19:18:42 2008 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:18:42 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] italian linux day (25th October 2008) In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080807301213g6617ce08k6895933a0f2f5c6@mail.gmail.com> References: <1217074437.3934.37.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> <1217372005.3485.5.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> <7a0d56080807301213g6617ce08k6895933a0f2f5c6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1217445522.3493.14.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 12:13 -0700, Larry Cafiero wrote: > Or: +100 > > My (Fedora) hat is off to you all. Thanks very much for feedback... Luca From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jul 30 19:28:00 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:28:00 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 9 CD/DVDs In-Reply-To: <1217443387.3493.7.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> References: <1217443387.3493.7.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> Message-ID: On Wed, 30 Jul 2008, Luca Foppiano wrote: > We will bet on Fedora USB fill station, but we wish to have also > CD/DVDs to give away, we won't to spend money to print CDs.. there are > still Fedora 9 CD/DVDs left? I can help make sure that you get some Fedora 9 Live CDs. How many do you think you will need? Sorry for not seeing your initial request... --Max From luca at foppiano.org Wed Jul 30 19:55:44 2008 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:55:44 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 9 CD/DVDs In-Reply-To: References: <1217443387.3493.7.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> Message-ID: <1217447744.3493.26.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 21:28 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > I can help make sure that you get some Fedora 9 Live CDs. How many do > you think you will need? we wish to have about 1000 cd/dvds, but only just printed CD... in my previous email I meant I didn't want fedora spends money to print fedora 9 cds ;-) > Sorry for not seeing your initial request... no problem ;-) Luca -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 65th day of Confusion in the YOLD 3174 Q: How much does it cost to ride the Unibus? A: 2 bits. From empoweringlinux at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 20:23:21 2008 From: empoweringlinux at gmail.com (Sri Ram) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:53:21 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi :) In-Reply-To: <1216973724.48898b9ca6f8d@webmail.mindfreak-networks.org> References: <1216973724.48898b9ca6f8d@webmail.mindfreak-networks.org> Message-ID: <2d2e2de00807301323p22fce790pc52721e3b52cb0ad@mail.gmail.com> On 7/25/08, office at mindfreak-networks.org wrote: > > Hi , my name is Tinca Flavius-Antoniu , my friend call me Tony , I am from > Romania , Tirgu-Mures city , i love networks , servers , I also love Fedora > and I will contribute by presenting Fedora to the world , to people in my > city , I will assura that everyone will know what is Fedora . > I have made a lot of routers,servers of all kind > (DNS,DHCP,Apache,IRC,Shoutcast,Webmin,and so on...),i have MAN networks > (Metropolitan-Area-Network) in my city. > I would like to represent Fedora in my city , so I could talk with people , > with business people who would like install Fedora on their servers for > companies . > I hope I will very usefull for Fedora , and I will to my best to be a very > good Fedora Ambassador . > > > Welcome to the open world..... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Frields) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:20:42 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 9 CD/DVDs In-Reply-To: <1217450356.3027.3.camel@F9NB.homenet.local> References: <1217443387.3493.7.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> <1217447744.3493.26.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> <1217450356.3027.3.camel@F9NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: <1217452842.5112.14.camel@victoria> On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 22:39 +0200, Gerold Kassube wrote: > LUCA ... > > Am Mittwoch, den 30.07.2008, 21:55 +0200 schrieb Luca Foppiano: > > On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 21:28 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > > > > > I can help make sure that you get some Fedora 9 Live CDs. How many do > > > you think you will need? > > > > we wish to have about 1000 cd/dvds, but only just printed CD... > > in my previous email I meant I didn't want fedora spends money to > > print fedora 9 cds ;-) > ^^ > for sure?????? ONE Thousand DvDs???? We burned for Linuxtag with more > than 10.000 visitors, and three other events 600 .... Gerold -- I don't know if this is on the Ambassadors areas of the wiki somewhere, but it's very useful information. If Ambassadors have some guidelines for how many pieces of media they should consider requesting, it helps in the overall budget planning as well. It may not be as simple as saying "1 CD for every {5,10,...} people." For some small events, it makes sense to have 1 piece of media for each person. For some larger ones, the ratio may need to be smaller if we want to stay within budget! This would be a useful thing to consider drafting and having the Ambassador community think about. I don't think it needs to be an absolute rule, but rather a guideline for planning. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Next up was Greg DeKoenigsberg - he was a welcome relief - adding a little humor and doing a base level presentation of what open source means, and how and where it excels. The audience is really more IT and business people and not really Linux or open source zealots, so this level of talk was good. After Greg was done we took a break and I setup an impromptu 'booth' and talked to people about Fedora, and Linux, etc. I say impromptu because there were no other booths, and one hadn't really been planned. Greg had brought a stack of ~50 LiveCDs and DVDs for a presentation I was planning on making in Greenville. I initially brought about 20 of the LiveCDs that Greg brought - within 5 minutes they were gone along with the stack of business cards I had set out. I retrieved more - and would guess that all 50 were gone with 30 minutes. I put my business cards up front and told people that if they didn't receive a LiveCD that they should send me an email and I'd make sure they received one. A shocking number of people at this open source conference haven't tried open source software to any depth - not even OpenOffice.org Following this was a really basic demonstration of OpenOffice.org. The presenter was a professor at the University of South Carolina who had her students create end-user howtos for OpenOffice.org this past year. I introduced myself to her and told her about the varied documentation projects we had at the Fedora Project and told her that I'd be happy to come down and introduce the Fedora Project to her students and see if we couldn't have some of their projects help Fedora out. She seemed receptive to this thought. I also met a comp sci. professor from Benedict College who was interested in Fedora and I told her I'd follow up with her and see if we could at least introduce Fedora for them. During lunch professors from two other universities talked to Greg about incorporating Open Source into their Comp Sci programs and some of those conversations seemed like they have potential for doing interesting things, perhaps akin to Seneca College, though it's probably far too soon to speculate. The following session was from an IP lawyer - he seemed to lean towards more FUD. Though he has 20+ years in IP law, I really missed the EFF types or the Duke Law people. The last presentation was from a Ruby developer who worked for the state. His presentation was somewhat interesting and he revealed that they are hosting a Ruby Conference. I told him I would see if schedule allowed for Fedora to show up and talk. The final event was a roundtable that had people from small and large businesses answering questions about their open source deployments. Someone asked the question if they encouraged their employees to contribute to the open source software projects they used. One of the panel members said that they would be upset if their employees were working on things other than 'work'. I posited the view that contributing back to the community was invaluable for the following reasons: 1. It builds expertise like no training every will. 2. It potentially means that $feature_desired_by_company will be implemented or implemented sooner. Being part of the community means that they can help point the project in a direction they want. I further argued that one of the panelists had said that they offer a 'disclaimer' to their customers that they are using Postgresql as their RDBMS as they consider it a risk point. I offered that if they were seeking to allay customer fears they'd 'force' one or more of their employees to contribute so they could show their customers that they know the product well enough that they contribute. One of the business-types had the value dawn on him - but said that while some of these businesses may not be able to justify 'development' time they could certainly justify writing 'test cases' and doing QA on projects they were using. Neither of us seemed warmly received by the business types on the panel - but you could see light bulbs going off around the room and it generated a number of post-event conversations about getting involved in open source projects. I have around half a dozen people to follow up with now. It was a good turnout for a first year event. I wish it had been better advertised, particularly outside of Columbia. I also wished they had balanced end-users with community a bit more - but I made a number of contacts that would probably have not shown up to something much more geeky. From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jul 30 22:38:29 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:38:29 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Report: Palmetto Open Source Software Conference In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Awesome report. Thanks David! --Max On Wed, 30 Jul 2008, David Nalley wrote: > I attended POSSCon today - it's a first year - seemingly business > oriented event - more so than community oriented. I actually came > across the event accidentally, and signed up last minute. Parking was > about 1.5 blocks. from the event. When I got down to the building > there were 65 people waiting outside. I was impressed by the turnout - > as I sit inside the auditorium there are over 100 people here now. The > Keynote from the Blue Cross Blue Shield guy seemed to be spreading a > lot of FUD about the liability of using open source software. I > thought that was all over with?? Maybe I have just been desentized > after all the SCO stuff. > Next up was Greg DeKoenigsberg - he was a welcome relief - adding a > little humor and doing a base level presentation of what open source > means, and how and where it excels. The audience is really more IT and > business people and not really Linux or open source zealots, so this > level of talk was good. > After Greg was done we took a break and I setup an impromptu 'booth' > and talked to people about Fedora, and Linux, etc. I say impromptu > because there were no other booths, and one hadn't really been > planned. Greg had brought a stack of ~50 LiveCDs and DVDs for a > presentation I was planning on making in Greenville. I initially > brought about 20 of the LiveCDs that Greg brought - within 5 minutes > they were gone along with the stack of business cards I had set out. I > retrieved more - and would guess that all 50 were gone with 30 > minutes. I put my business cards up front and told people that if they > didn't receive a LiveCD that they should send me an email and I'd make > sure they received one. > A shocking number of people at this open source conference haven't > tried open source software to any depth - not even OpenOffice.org > Following this was a really basic demonstration of OpenOffice.org. The > presenter was a professor at the University of South Carolina who had > her students create end-user howtos for OpenOffice.org this past year. > I introduced myself to her and told her about the varied documentation > projects we had at the Fedora Project and told her that I'd be happy > to come down and introduce the Fedora Project to her students and see > if we couldn't have some of their projects help Fedora out. She seemed > receptive to this thought. > I also met a comp sci. professor from Benedict College who was > interested in Fedora and I told her I'd follow up with her and see if > we could at least introduce Fedora for them. > During lunch professors from two other universities talked to Greg > about incorporating Open Source into their Comp Sci programs and some > of those conversations seemed like they have potential for doing > interesting things, perhaps akin to Seneca College, though it's > probably far too soon to speculate. > The following session was from an IP lawyer - he seemed to lean > towards more FUD. Though he has 20+ years in IP law, I really missed > the EFF types or the Duke Law people. > The last presentation was from a Ruby developer who worked for the > state. His presentation was somewhat interesting and he revealed that > they are hosting a Ruby Conference. I told him I would see if schedule > allowed for Fedora to show up and talk. > The final event was a roundtable that had people from small and large > businesses answering questions about their open source deployments. > Someone asked the question if they encouraged their employees to > contribute to the open source software projects they used. One of the > panel members said that they would be upset if their employees were > working on things other than 'work'. I posited the view that > contributing back to the community was invaluable for the following > reasons: > 1. It builds expertise like no training every will. > 2. It potentially means that $feature_desired_by_company will be > implemented or implemented sooner. Being part of the community means > that they can help point the project in a direction they want. > I further argued that one of the panelists had said that they offer a > 'disclaimer' to their customers that they are using Postgresql as > their RDBMS as they consider it a risk point. I offered that if they > were seeking to allay customer fears they'd 'force' one or more of > their employees to contribute so they could show their customers that > they know the product well enough that they contribute. > One of the business-types had the value dawn on him - but said that > while some of these businesses may not be able to justify > 'development' time they could certainly justify writing 'test cases' > and doing QA on projects they were using. Neither of us seemed warmly > received by the business types on the panel - but you could see light > bulbs going off around the room and it generated a number of > post-event conversations about getting involved in open source > projects. I have around half a dozen people to follow up with now. > > It was a good turnout for a first year event. I wish it had been > better advertised, particularly outside of Columbia. > I also wished they had balanced end-users with community a bit more - > but I made a number of contacts that would probably have not shown up > to something much more geeky. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From rafaelliu at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 23:25:34 2008 From: rafaelliu at gmail.com (rafael liu) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:25:34 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Pre-made presentations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My original intention was something more wide than just organization.. But that's a first step, let's work on this then we see where do we head from it. I didn't know about the /CommunityArchitecture/Presentations page. It's really more like I would like /Presentations to be, with all that Abstract and Target Audience stuff. I'm not saying we should make such descriptions for past presentations, but we should structure the page so people know that there are fields that should be filled. I think those fields shoud be: Abstract: what's this presentation about? Maybe software versions too Target Audience: technical guys, publicity, students, etc Date: when was it created Format: odp, pdf, etc Language: language Notes: general notes (maybe people would give up when see all those fields? hehe =p) Can we really consolidate those two pages?.. Maybe we could talk to CommunityArchitecture team to post their presentations on the new page (maybe on a session of their own). I'll order the presentations by date in their own session and put the date on the description. We would maintain this format for these pre-our-changes presentations. What do you think? Rafael Liu On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, rafael liu wrote: > > What do you think about getting a session with the slides, organized by >> subject and maybe depth with the guidelines on how the presentation should >> flow? Slides made thinking about it, standardize, updated, revised by >> experts on that area in the community. It may seem like I'm talking in favor >> of dumb, incapable people, but it's really because there are those of us >> with the willing but without directions. >> > > I would be happy to work with you. > > The workflow seems clear to me: > > 1) Inventory all pages on the wiki where we have presentations. > - /Presentations > - /CommunityArchitecture/Presentations > - Others? > > 2) Consolidate everything into one page, probably living at /Presentations > > 3) Create a /Presentations/Archive for old or outdated talks. > > 4) Inventory the "current" talks into categories based on subject matter or > "potential audience", and have a clear description, owner, and "last > updated" field for each talk. Do this in a way that makes it easy for > someone to take a slide deck, translate it, and make that translation > available as well. > > 5) Designate someone (I volunteer) to be the overall gatekeeper who makes > sure that the content we are making available is current, and that old > presentations are archived when it's time. > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rafaelliu at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 23:38:56 2008 From: rafaelliu at gmail.com (rafael liu) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:38:56 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Pre-made presentations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: oh, just sow the two presentations are yours, hehe there wouldn't be a problem then I guess =) Rafael Liu On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:25 PM, rafael liu wrote: > My original intention was something more wide than just organization.. But > that's a first step, let's work on this then we see where do we head from > it. > > I didn't know about the /CommunityArchitecture/Presentations page. It's > really more like I would like /Presentations to be, with all that Abstract > and Target Audience stuff. I'm not saying we should make such descriptions > for past presentations, but we should structure the page so people know that > there are fields that should be filled. I think those fields shoud be: > > Abstract: what's this presentation about? Maybe software versions too > Target Audience: technical guys, publicity, students, etc > Date: when was it created > Format: odp, pdf, etc > Language: language > Notes: general notes > > (maybe people would give up when see all those fields? hehe =p) > > Can we really consolidate those two pages?.. Maybe we could talk to > CommunityArchitecture team to post their presentations on the new page > (maybe on a session of their own). > > I'll order the presentations by date in their own session and put the date > on the description. We would maintain this format for these pre-our-changes > presentations. > > What do you think? > > Rafael Liu > > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > >> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, rafael liu wrote: >> >> What do you think about getting a session with the slides, organized by >>> subject and maybe depth with the guidelines on how the presentation should >>> flow? Slides made thinking about it, standardize, updated, revised by >>> experts on that area in the community. It may seem like I'm talking in favor >>> of dumb, incapable people, but it's really because there are those of us >>> with the willing but without directions. >>> >> >> I would be happy to work with you. >> >> The workflow seems clear to me: >> >> 1) Inventory all pages on the wiki where we have presentations. >> - /Presentations >> - /CommunityArchitecture/Presentations >> - Others? >> >> 2) Consolidate everything into one page, probably living at /Presentations >> >> 3) Create a /Presentations/Archive for old or outdated talks. >> >> 4) Inventory the "current" talks into categories based on subject matter >> or "potential audience", and have a clear description, owner, and "last >> updated" field for each talk. Do this in a way that makes it easy for >> someone to take a slide deck, translate it, and make that translation >> available as well. >> >> 5) Designate someone (I volunteer) to be the overall gatekeeper who makes >> sure that the content we are making available is current, and that old >> presentations are archived when it's time. >> >> --Max >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The > presenter was a professor at the University of South Carolina who had > her students create end-user howtos for OpenOffice.org this past year. > I introduced myself to her and told her about the varied documentation > projects we had at the Fedora Project and told her that I'd be happy > to come down and introduce the Fedora Project to her students and see > if we couldn't have some of their projects help Fedora out. She seemed > receptive to this thought. Good. If you get to, please put her in contact with me. We're starting a connection with Fedora Docs and Seneca College's Tech Communications program this Fall, so we have a real-life model to point at. :) - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From all of that I was able to show a few Fedora features, mainly the live USB capabilities. Over the course of the day, there seemed to be up to several dozen people there, including a documentary film maker[1], and several kids. One of them, a 12 year-old boy, was a full-on Mandriva freak. Whatever they do for him, Mandriva has earned a good proponent. :) As an installfest, this event was not highly successful, in that people brought questions instead of machines to install. :( Of the questions about existing or upcoming Linux installs, the majority of discussion went to Ubuntu. There was one person who came late-ish to represent Ubuntu, he was quite knowledgeable about Fedora as well. I added his Ubuntu ISO to mine for an install server, but no one ended up using it. As an education event with an equal or greater focus on moving people along toward freedom and open source, it was a fair success. For example, I talked extensively with a person from a small ISV interested in being in Fedora. I also explained open source, business models, etc. Across the series of events (three separate days, iirc), up to one hundred people came in contact with the FLOSS advocates at the event. That is a sizeable % of the town population, and word of mouth seemed to be in effect. Outcomes from this (series of) event(s): * The forming of a new G/LUG in Felton * Another Lindependence in Boulder Creek * Potentially another Lindependence in a town in Oregon What interests me about this methodology is the focus on small, relatively insular communities that have a higher than average number of people passionate about freedom. So far I've spent about $50 of the $500 budgeted to me for this event series. That was used for making three vinyl banners of 'infinity', 'freedom', and 'voice' that are joining the (Western reagion) event kit. Larry and I thought it was a good idea to save the rest of the budget to support the Lindependence event in Boulder Creek. We'll get a Fedora sponsorship for that, and I'm planning to give a general FLOSS talk at one of those events, as well as providing installfest support. - Karsten [1] http://www.digitaltippingpoint.com/ -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From silvioreis.fedora at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 05:44:27 2008 From: silvioreis.fedora at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=EDlvio_Reis?=) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:44:27 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Very disappointed - What's our role as ambassadors? Message-ID: What is our role as ambassadors? I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong? So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal. But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least in Portugal. As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the project Fedora Portugal. The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to participate in the website. More than a month passed and still not got an answer. The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this adventure, *should I start the project without any support? * The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as Eunir Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo Padula. In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and just does not have a community. So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki. We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to translate the Fedora. With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating next month. The question is: who will be there? That is why I ask your opinion: *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of another 5 Portuguese ambassadors?* S?lvio Reis http://www.projectofedora.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pbarrera488 at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 05:58:56 2008 From: pbarrera488 at gmail.com (Pablo Barrera) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:58:56 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Very disappointed - What's our role as ambassadors? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <950c97800807302258y7fe7bb83jb182998929446c13@mail.gmail.com> Hi Silvio ( Yes Im back for good ) :-) Some points that can help u, about my personal experience... 2008/7/31 S?lvio Reis > What is our role as ambassadors? > I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong? > So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal. > But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least in > Portugal. > As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the > project Fedora Portugal. > The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to > participate in the website. > Normally in our regions....really normally... > > > More than a month passed and still not got an answer. > The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this adventure, > *should I start the project without any support? * > At first, you are not alone. Like ambassador you are part of the voice of Fedora worldwide, with special focus on your regions. When things doesnt comes what we want we cant stop, or see it as an oportunity to "make the difference". A nice thing to start a project like this is begin to take "small and reasonable milestones. Look at the project as a global strategy. Probably the first times could be hard, but if u start to move, soon or later, people will come to you. Think that your role is talk to people in Portugal about Fedora and Software Freedom. This is an enourmus task, but , its a responsability too. Be focused on the main objetive can help, to not become sad or dissapointed. > > > The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as Eunir > Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo Padula. > Thats why u are not alone!!!!. I know personally Rodrigo, and I know that he will help you whenever he will be. > > In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and just > does not have a community. > So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki. > Very Nice!!!!!, u have the oportunity to "make things happen". A web site could be an option. Rodrigo theres some space on Latinamerica hosting to give access. I can help him with the site building... > > We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to > translate the Fedora. > With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating next > month. > The question is: who will be there? > The most important answer: YOU are the beggining for Fedora in Portugal. Do not hesitate. We are all part of all. Not all the ambassadors could help u, but i think that with some chat and some web resources u can start the project. REMEMBER: small milestones. Firs of all, create the site is the firts step, the next the speechs in differnte places, ask for help to newcommers to help you translate documentation, etc. When I found Fedora Argentina in 2006, i was alone. > > That is why I ask your opinion: > *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of another > 5 Portuguese ambassadors?* > Yes! IMHO is very important. Push the limits :-). Probably their silence is not necesarily desinterest, probably they have personal problems, or other issues, or absense of time. Who knows. All this is my personal opinion, anyway. A good start could be mount the website.... Rodrigo, it seems that Fedora Latinamerica, becomes in Fedora HispaAmerica :-) Nice to be here again..... Fedorize! yourself P. > > S?lvio Reis > > http://www.projectofedora.org/ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neo.reeves at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 06:14:39 2008 From: neo.reeves at gmail.com (Neo Reeves) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:14:39 +0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Very disappointed - What's our role as ambassadors? In-Reply-To: <950c97800807302258y7fe7bb83jb182998929446c13@mail.gmail.com> References: <950c97800807302258y7fe7bb83jb182998929446c13@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Silvio, I am one of the Ambassador for Maldives. And if you need any help from me let me know. I'll be there, but remember I don't speak or write Portugal. Just shoot when you need me. I really appreciate people like you. - Sameeh 2008/7/31 Pablo Barrera > Hi Silvio > ( Yes Im back for good ) :-) > > Some points that can help u, about my personal experience... > > 2008/7/31 S?lvio Reis > >> What is our role as ambassadors? >> I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong? >> So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal. >> But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least in >> Portugal. >> As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the >> project Fedora Portugal. >> The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to >> participate in the website. >> > > Normally in our regions....really normally... > >> >> >> More than a month passed and still not got an answer. >> The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this adventure, >> *should I start the project without any support? * >> > > At first, you are not alone. Like ambassador you are part of the voice of > Fedora worldwide, with special focus on your regions. > When things doesnt comes what we want we cant stop, or see it as an > oportunity to "make the difference". > > A nice thing to start a project like this is begin to take "small and > reasonable milestones. Look at the project as a global strategy. > Probably the first times could be hard, but if u start to move, soon or > later, people will come to you. Think that your role is talk to > people in Portugal about Fedora and Software Freedom. This is an enourmus > task, but , its a responsability too. Be focused on the > main objetive can help, to not become sad or dissapointed. > > >> >> >> The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as Eunir >> Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo Padula. >> > > Thats why u are not alone!!!!. I know personally Rodrigo, and I know that > he will help you whenever he will be. > > >> >> In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and just >> does not have a community. >> So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki. >> > > Very Nice!!!!!, u have the oportunity to "make things happen". A web site > could be an option. Rodrigo theres some space on > Latinamerica hosting to give access. I can help him with the site > building... > > >> >> We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to >> translate the Fedora. >> With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating >> next month. >> The question is: who will be there? >> > > The most important answer: YOU are the beggining for Fedora in Portugal. Do > not hesitate. We are all part of all. Not all the ambassadors could help u, > but i think that with some chat and some web resources u can start the > project. REMEMBER: small milestones. Firs of all, create the site is the > firts step, the next the speechs in differnte places, ask for help to > newcommers to help you translate documentation, etc. When I found Fedora > Argentina in 2006, i was alone. > >> >> That is why I ask your opinion: >> *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of another >> 5 Portuguese ambassadors?* >> > > Yes! IMHO is very important. Push the limits :-). Probably their silence is > not necesarily desinterest, probably they have personal problems, or other > issues, or absense of time. Who knows. All this is my personal opinion, > anyway. > > > A good start could be mount the website.... > Rodrigo, it seems that Fedora Latinamerica, becomes in Fedora HispaAmerica > :-) > > > Nice to be here again..... > Fedorize! yourself > > P. > > > >> >> S?lvio Reis >> >> http://www.projectofedora.org/ >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- .:: BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ::. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hellcomdev at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 06:17:53 2008 From: hellcomdev at gmail.com (RazGriz) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:17:53 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Very disappointed - What's our role as ambassadors? In-Reply-To: References: <950c97800807302258y7fe7bb83jb182998929446c13@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1f0d49220807302317x1a24623p430d03b41c204d8f@mail.gmail.com> Hi, i wanna help too =]. 2008/7/31 Neo Reeves > Silvio, > > I am one of the Ambassador for Maldives. And if you need any help from me > let me know. I'll be there, but remember I don't speak or write Portugal. > > Just shoot when you need me. I really appreciate people like you. > > - Sameeh > > 2008/7/31 Pablo Barrera > > Hi Silvio >> ( Yes Im back for good ) :-) >> >> Some points that can help u, about my personal experience... >> >> 2008/7/31 S?lvio Reis >> >>> What is our role as ambassadors? >>> I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong? >>> So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal. >>> But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least in >>> Portugal. >>> As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the >>> project Fedora Portugal. >>> The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to >>> participate in the website. >>> >> >> Normally in our regions....really normally... >> >>> >>> >>> More than a month passed and still not got an answer. >>> The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this adventure, >>> *should I start the project without any support? * >>> >> >> At first, you are not alone. Like ambassador you are part of the voice of >> Fedora worldwide, with special focus on your regions. >> When things doesnt comes what we want we cant stop, or see it as an >> oportunity to "make the difference". >> >> A nice thing to start a project like this is begin to take "small and >> reasonable milestones. Look at the project as a global strategy. >> Probably the first times could be hard, but if u start to move, soon or >> later, people will come to you. Think that your role is talk to >> people in Portugal about Fedora and Software Freedom. This is an enourmus >> task, but , its a responsability too. Be focused on the >> main objetive can help, to not become sad or dissapointed. >> >> >>> >>> >>> The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as Eunir >>> Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo Padula. >>> >> >> Thats why u are not alone!!!!. I know personally Rodrigo, and I know that >> he will help you whenever he will be. >> >> >>> >>> In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and >>> just does not have a community. >>> So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki. >>> >> >> Very Nice!!!!!, u have the oportunity to "make things happen". A web site >> could be an option. Rodrigo theres some space on >> Latinamerica hosting to give access. I can help him with the site >> building... >> >> >>> >>> We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to >>> translate the Fedora. >>> With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating >>> next month. >>> The question is: who will be there? >>> >> >> The most important answer: YOU are the beggining for Fedora in Portugal. >> Do not hesitate. We are all part of all. Not all the ambassadors could help >> u, but i think that with some chat and some web resources u can start the >> project. REMEMBER: small milestones. Firs of all, create the site is the >> firts step, the next the speechs in differnte places, ask for help to >> newcommers to help you translate documentation, etc. When I found Fedora >> Argentina in 2006, i was alone. >> >>> >>> That is why I ask your opinion: >>> *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of >>> another 5 Portuguese ambassadors?* >>> >> >> Yes! IMHO is very important. Push the limits :-). Probably their silence >> is not necesarily desinterest, probably they have personal problems, or >> other issues, or absense of time. Who knows. All this is my personal >> opinion, anyway. >> >> >> A good start could be mount the website.... >> Rodrigo, it seems that Fedora Latinamerica, becomes in Fedora HispaAmerica >> :-) >> >> >> Nice to be here again..... >> Fedorize! yourself >> >> P. >> >> >> >>> >>> S?lvio Reis >>> >>> http://www.projectofedora.org/ >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > .:: BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ::. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- RazGriz The Solo_-Wing. Diretor de Arte GNU-LIA--=www.gnu-lia.org 2 Tons Comunica??o Revista Fedora Brasil Portal O-Gimp -=-=:Quem constr?i a realidade ? voc?. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nushio at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 06:28:04 2008 From: nushio at gmail.com (Juan M. Rodriguez) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:28:04 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Very disappointed - What's our role as ambassadors? In-Reply-To: <1f0d49220807302317x1a24623p430d03b41c204d8f@mail.gmail.com> References: <950c97800807302258y7fe7bb83jb182998929446c13@mail.gmail.com> <1f0d49220807302317x1a24623p430d03b41c204d8f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/7/31 RazGriz > Hi, > > i wanna help too =]. > > 2008/7/31 Neo Reeves > > Silvio, >> >> I am one of the Ambassador for Maldives. And if you need any help from me >> let me know. I'll be there, but remember I don't speak or write Portugal. >> >> Just shoot when you need me. I really appreciate people like you. >> >> - Sameeh >> >> 2008/7/31 Pablo Barrera >> >> Hi Silvio >>> ( Yes Im back for good ) :-) >>> >>> Some points that can help u, about my personal experience... >>> >>> 2008/7/31 S?lvio Reis >>> >>>> What is our role as ambassadors? >>>> I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong? >>>> So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal. >>>> But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least >>>> in Portugal. >>>> As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the >>>> project Fedora Portugal. >>>> The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to >>>> participate in the website. >>>> >>> >>> Normally in our regions....really normally... >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> More than a month passed and still not got an answer. >>>> The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this >>>> adventure, *should I start the project without any support? * >>>> >>> >>> At first, you are not alone. Like ambassador you are part of the voice of >>> Fedora worldwide, with special focus on your regions. >>> When things doesnt comes what we want we cant stop, or see it as an >>> oportunity to "make the difference". >>> >>> A nice thing to start a project like this is begin to take "small and >>> reasonable milestones. Look at the project as a global strategy. >>> Probably the first times could be hard, but if u start to move, soon or >>> later, people will come to you. Think that your role is talk to >>> people in Portugal about Fedora and Software Freedom. This is an enourmus >>> task, but , its a responsability too. Be focused on the >>> main objetive can help, to not become sad or dissapointed. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as Eunir >>>> Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo Padula. >>>> >>> >>> Thats why u are not alone!!!!. I know personally Rodrigo, and I know that >>> he will help you whenever he will be. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and >>>> just does not have a community. >>>> So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki. >>>> >>> >>> Very Nice!!!!!, u have the oportunity to "make things happen". A web site >>> could be an option. Rodrigo theres some space on >>> Latinamerica hosting to give access. I can help him with the site >>> building... >>> >>> >>>> >>>> We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to >>>> translate the Fedora. >>>> With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating >>>> next month. >>>> The question is: who will be there? >>>> >>> >>> The most important answer: YOU are the beggining for Fedora in Portugal. >>> Do not hesitate. We are all part of all. Not all the ambassadors could help >>> u, but i think that with some chat and some web resources u can start the >>> project. REMEMBER: small milestones. Firs of all, create the site is the >>> firts step, the next the speechs in differnte places, ask for help to >>> newcommers to help you translate documentation, etc. When I found Fedora >>> Argentina in 2006, i was alone. >>> >>>> >>>> That is why I ask your opinion: >>>> *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of >>>> another 5 Portuguese ambassadors?* >>>> >>> >>> Yes! IMHO is very important. Push the limits :-). Probably their silence >>> is not necesarily desinterest, probably they have personal problems, or >>> other issues, or absense of time. Who knows. All this is my personal >>> opinion, anyway. >>> >>> >>> A good start could be mount the website.... >>> Rodrigo, it seems that Fedora Latinamerica, becomes in Fedora >>> HispaAmerica :-) >>> >>> >>> Nice to be here again..... >>> Fedorize! yourself >>> >>> P. >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> S?lvio Reis >>>> >>>> http://www.projectofedora.org/ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> .:: BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ::. >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > RazGriz > The Solo_-Wing. > Diretor de Arte > GNU-LIA--=www.gnu-lia.org > 2 Tons Comunica??o > Revista Fedora Brasil > Portal O-Gimp > -=-=:Quem constr?i a realidade ? voc?. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Count me in too. I currently administrate the ProyectoFedora.org Website, so whatever you need, just let me know! You are not alone. -- Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pbarrera488 at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 06:30:46 2008 From: pbarrera488 at gmail.com (Pablo Barrera) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:30:46 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Very disappointed - What's our role as ambassadors? In-Reply-To: References: <950c97800807302258y7fe7bb83jb182998929446c13@mail.gmail.com> <1f0d49220807302317x1a24623p430d03b41c204d8f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <950c97800807302330y48c9a974vf62f5737b07c336a@mail.gmail.com> As u see silvio!, u are not alone :-) Regards P. 2008/7/31 Juan M. Rodriguez > > > 2008/7/31 RazGriz > > Hi, >> >> i wanna help too =]. >> >> 2008/7/31 Neo Reeves >> >> Silvio, >>> >>> I am one of the Ambassador for Maldives. And if you need any help from me >>> let me know. I'll be there, but remember I don't speak or write Portugal. >>> >>> Just shoot when you need me. I really appreciate people like you. >>> >>> - Sameeh >>> >>> 2008/7/31 Pablo Barrera >>> >>> Hi Silvio >>>> ( Yes Im back for good ) :-) >>>> >>>> Some points that can help u, about my personal experience... >>>> >>>> 2008/7/31 S?lvio Reis >>>> >>>>> What is our role as ambassadors? >>>>> I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong? >>>>> So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal. >>>>> But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least >>>>> in Portugal. >>>>> As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the >>>>> project Fedora Portugal. >>>>> The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to >>>>> participate in the website. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Normally in our regions....really normally... >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> More than a month passed and still not got an answer. >>>>> The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this >>>>> adventure, *should I start the project without any support? * >>>>> >>>> >>>> At first, you are not alone. Like ambassador you are part of the voice >>>> of Fedora worldwide, with special focus on your regions. >>>> When things doesnt comes what we want we cant stop, or see it as an >>>> oportunity to "make the difference". >>>> >>>> A nice thing to start a project like this is begin to take "small and >>>> reasonable milestones. Look at the project as a global strategy. >>>> Probably the first times could be hard, but if u start to move, soon or >>>> later, people will come to you. Think that your role is talk to >>>> people in Portugal about Fedora and Software Freedom. This is an >>>> enourmus task, but , its a responsability too. Be focused on the >>>> main objetive can help, to not become sad or dissapointed. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as >>>>> Eunir Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo >>>>> Padula. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Thats why u are not alone!!!!. I know personally Rodrigo, and I know >>>> that he will help you whenever he will be. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and >>>>> just does not have a community. >>>>> So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Very Nice!!!!!, u have the oportunity to "make things happen". A web >>>> site could be an option. Rodrigo theres some space on >>>> Latinamerica hosting to give access. I can help him with the site >>>> building... >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to >>>>> translate the Fedora. >>>>> With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating >>>>> next month. >>>>> The question is: who will be there? >>>>> >>>> >>>> The most important answer: YOU are the beggining for Fedora in Portugal. >>>> Do not hesitate. We are all part of all. Not all the ambassadors could help >>>> u, but i think that with some chat and some web resources u can start the >>>> project. REMEMBER: small milestones. Firs of all, create the site is the >>>> firts step, the next the speechs in differnte places, ask for help to >>>> newcommers to help you translate documentation, etc. When I found Fedora >>>> Argentina in 2006, i was alone. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> That is why I ask your opinion: >>>>> *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of >>>>> another 5 Portuguese ambassadors?* >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yes! IMHO is very important. Push the limits :-). Probably their silence >>>> is not necesarily desinterest, probably they have personal problems, or >>>> other issues, or absense of time. Who knows. All this is my personal >>>> opinion, anyway. >>>> >>>> >>>> A good start could be mount the website.... >>>> Rodrigo, it seems that Fedora Latinamerica, becomes in Fedora >>>> HispaAmerica :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> Nice to be here again..... >>>> Fedorize! yourself >>>> >>>> P. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> S?lvio Reis >>>>> >>>>> http://www.projectofedora.org/ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> .:: BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ::. >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> RazGriz >> The Solo_-Wing. >> Diretor de Arte >> GNU-LIA--=www.gnu-lia.org >> 2 Tons Comunica??o >> Revista Fedora Brasil >> Portal O-Gimp >> -=-=:Quem constr?i a realidade ? voc?. >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > Count me in too. > > I currently administrate the ProyectoFedora.org Website, so whatever you > need, just let me know! > > You are not alone. > > -- > Ing. 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URL: From nayyares at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 06:38:22 2008 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:38:22 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <943989.24287.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <943989.24287.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30807302338w5b33898fwb5f796aafb9553f6@mail.gmail.com> Welcome Samuel, i get very happy whenever see some one joining Fedora Ambassadors group from my part of the world ... :) I am Fedora Ambassador from Mozambique, i would love to help you in Fedora promotional stuff... keep in touch Cheers 2008/7/29 Samuel Teyemensah > Hi, I just now a fedora ambassador. > > > > I am planning a seminar in my community to introduce fedora to the people. > > How do I get some of the live cds for distribution. > > I have been able to convert some friends and school mates of mine to the > side of fedora. However, we are still using fedora 7 because internet > connections in my area are not so good, making it difficult to download > fedora 9. Some should help. I am in Ghana- West Africa. > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hellcomdev at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 06:41:11 2008 From: hellcomdev at gmail.com (RazGriz) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:41:11 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Very disappointed - What's our role as ambassadors? In-Reply-To: <950c97800807302330y48c9a974vf62f5737b07c336a@mail.gmail.com> References: <950c97800807302258y7fe7bb83jb182998929446c13@mail.gmail.com> <1f0d49220807302317x1a24623p430d03b41c204d8f@mail.gmail.com> <950c97800807302330y48c9a974vf62f5737b07c336a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1f0d49220807302341n74e9287bpb08d735def5b296d@mail.gmail.com> +1 and Pablo... and about Latinoware? you will come this year too, right? =] See you there 2008/7/31 Pablo Barrera > As u see silvio!, u are not alone :-) > Regards > > P. > > > 2008/7/31 Juan M. Rodriguez > > >> >> 2008/7/31 RazGriz >> >> Hi, >>> >>> i wanna help too =]. >>> >>> 2008/7/31 Neo Reeves >>> >>> Silvio, >>>> >>>> I am one of the Ambassador for Maldives. And if you need any help from >>>> me let me know. I'll be there, but remember I don't speak or write Portugal. >>>> >>>> >>>> Just shoot when you need me. I really appreciate people like you. >>>> >>>> - Sameeh >>>> >>>> 2008/7/31 Pablo Barrera >>>> >>>> Hi Silvio >>>>> ( Yes Im back for good ) :-) >>>>> >>>>> Some points that can help u, about my personal experience... >>>>> >>>>> 2008/7/31 S?lvio Reis >>>>> >>>>>> What is our role as ambassadors? >>>>>> I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong? >>>>>> So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal. >>>>>> But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least >>>>>> in Portugal. >>>>>> As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the >>>>>> project Fedora Portugal. >>>>>> The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions >>>>>> to participate in the website. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Normally in our regions....really normally... >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> More than a month passed and still not got an answer. >>>>>> The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this >>>>>> adventure, *should I start the project without any support? * >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> At first, you are not alone. Like ambassador you are part of the voice >>>>> of Fedora worldwide, with special focus on your regions. >>>>> When things doesnt comes what we want we cant stop, or see it as an >>>>> oportunity to "make the difference". >>>>> >>>>> A nice thing to start a project like this is begin to take "small and >>>>> reasonable milestones. Look at the project as a global strategy. >>>>> Probably the first times could be hard, but if u start to move, soon or >>>>> later, people will come to you. Think that your role is talk to >>>>> people in Portugal about Fedora and Software Freedom. This is an >>>>> enourmus task, but , its a responsability too. Be focused on the >>>>> main objetive can help, to not become sad or dissapointed. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as >>>>>> Eunir Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo >>>>>> Padula. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thats why u are not alone!!!!. I know personally Rodrigo, and I know >>>>> that he will help you whenever he will be. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and >>>>>> just does not have a community. >>>>>> So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Very Nice!!!!!, u have the oportunity to "make things happen". A web >>>>> site could be an option. Rodrigo theres some space on >>>>> Latinamerica hosting to give access. I can help him with the site >>>>> building... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to >>>>>> translate the Fedora. >>>>>> With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating >>>>>> next month. >>>>>> The question is: who will be there? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The most important answer: YOU are the beggining for Fedora in >>>>> Portugal. Do not hesitate. We are all part of all. Not all the ambassadors >>>>> could help u, but i think that with some chat and some web resources u can >>>>> start the project. REMEMBER: small milestones. Firs of all, create the site >>>>> is the firts step, the next the speechs in differnte places, ask for help to >>>>> newcommers to help you translate documentation, etc. When I found Fedora >>>>> Argentina in 2006, i was alone. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That is why I ask your opinion: >>>>>> *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of >>>>>> another 5 Portuguese ambassadors?* >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yes! IMHO is very important. Push the limits :-). Probably their >>>>> silence is not necesarily desinterest, probably they have personal problems, >>>>> or other issues, or absense of time. Who knows. All this is my personal >>>>> opinion, anyway. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A good start could be mount the website.... >>>>> Rodrigo, it seems that Fedora Latinamerica, becomes in Fedora >>>>> HispaAmerica :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nice to be here again..... >>>>> Fedorize! yourself >>>>> >>>>> P. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> S?lvio Reis >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.projectofedora.org/ >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> .:: BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ::. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> RazGriz >>> The Solo_-Wing. >>> Diretor de Arte >>> GNU-LIA--=www.gnu-lia.org >>> 2 Tons Comunica??o >>> Revista Fedora Brasil >>> Portal O-Gimp >>> -=-=:Quem constr?i a realidade ? voc?. >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> Count me in too. >> >> I currently administrate the ProyectoFedora.org Website, so whatever you >> need, just let me know! >> >> You are not alone. >> >> -- >> Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno >> Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos >> Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- RazGriz The Solo_-Wing. Diretor de Arte GNU-LIA--=www.gnu-lia.org 2 Tons Comunica??o Revista Fedora Brasil Portal O-Gimp -=-=:Quem constr?i a realidade ? voc?. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pbarrera488 at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 06:46:17 2008 From: pbarrera488 at gmail.com (Pablo Barrera) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:46:17 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Very disappointed - What's our role as ambassadors? In-Reply-To: <1f0d49220807302341n74e9287bpb08d735def5b296d@mail.gmail.com> References: <950c97800807302258y7fe7bb83jb182998929446c13@mail.gmail.com> <1f0d49220807302317x1a24623p430d03b41c204d8f@mail.gmail.com> <950c97800807302330y48c9a974vf62f5737b07c336a@mail.gmail.com> <1f0d49220807302341n74e9287bpb08d735def5b296d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <950c97800807302346u35c3b1feja31ad49db78acaa5@mail.gmail.com> +5 +6 +7 and help counting.... hands on the work for freedom :-) 2008/7/31 RazGriz > +1 > > and Pablo... and about Latinoware? > Ill hope so, as u know, i am back with no sponsor this year. If ill find some sponsorship i wil go for sure. Anyway, i was talking with Latinoware people about my presence. As I always says: ( God ) universe will bring us the resources :-) > > > you will come this year too, right? =] See you there > Regards P. > > > > > 2008/7/31 Pablo Barrera > >> As u see silvio!, u are not alone :-) >> Regards >> >> P. >> >> >> 2008/7/31 Juan M. Rodriguez >> >> >>> >>> 2008/7/31 RazGriz >>> >>> Hi, >>>> >>>> i wanna help too =]. >>>> >>>> 2008/7/31 Neo Reeves >>>> >>>> Silvio, >>>>> >>>>> I am one of the Ambassador for Maldives. And if you need any help from >>>>> me let me know. I'll be there, but remember I don't speak or write Portugal. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Just shoot when you need me. I really appreciate people like you. >>>>> >>>>> - Sameeh >>>>> >>>>> 2008/7/31 Pablo Barrera >>>>> >>>>> Hi Silvio >>>>>> ( Yes Im back for good ) :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Some points that can help u, about my personal experience... >>>>>> >>>>>> 2008/7/31 S?lvio Reis >>>>>> >>>>>>> What is our role as ambassadors? >>>>>>> I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong? >>>>>>> So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal. >>>>>>> But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at >>>>>>> least in Portugal. >>>>>>> As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for >>>>>>> the project Fedora Portugal. >>>>>>> The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions >>>>>>> to participate in the website. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Normally in our regions....really normally... >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> More than a month passed and still not got an answer. >>>>>>> The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this >>>>>>> adventure, *should I start the project without any support? * >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> At first, you are not alone. Like ambassador you are part of the voice >>>>>> of Fedora worldwide, with special focus on your regions. >>>>>> When things doesnt comes what we want we cant stop, or see it as an >>>>>> oportunity to "make the difference". >>>>>> >>>>>> A nice thing to start a project like this is begin to take "small and >>>>>> reasonable milestones. Look at the project as a global strategy. >>>>>> Probably the first times could be hard, but if u start to move, soon >>>>>> or later, people will come to you. Think that your role is talk to >>>>>> people in Portugal about Fedora and Software Freedom. This is an >>>>>> enourmus task, but , its a responsability too. Be focused on the >>>>>> main objetive can help, to not become sad or dissapointed. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as >>>>>>> Eunir Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo >>>>>>> Padula. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thats why u are not alone!!!!. I know personally Rodrigo, and I know >>>>>> that he will help you whenever he will be. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and >>>>>>> just does not have a community. >>>>>>> So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Very Nice!!!!!, u have the oportunity to "make things happen". A web >>>>>> site could be an option. Rodrigo theres some space on >>>>>> Latinamerica hosting to give access. I can help him with the site >>>>>> building... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to >>>>>>> translate the Fedora. >>>>>>> With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start >>>>>>> operating next month. >>>>>>> The question is: who will be there? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The most important answer: YOU are the beggining for Fedora in >>>>>> Portugal. Do not hesitate. We are all part of all. Not all the ambassadors >>>>>> could help u, but i think that with some chat and some web resources u can >>>>>> start the project. REMEMBER: small milestones. Firs of all, create the site >>>>>> is the firts step, the next the speechs in differnte places, ask for help to >>>>>> newcommers to help you translate documentation, etc. When I found Fedora >>>>>> Argentina in 2006, i was alone. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That is why I ask your opinion: >>>>>>> *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of >>>>>>> another 5 Portuguese ambassadors?* >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes! IMHO is very important. Push the limits :-). Probably their >>>>>> silence is not necesarily desinterest, probably they have personal problems, >>>>>> or other issues, or absense of time. Who knows. All this is my personal >>>>>> opinion, anyway. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> A good start could be mount the website.... >>>>>> Rodrigo, it seems that Fedora Latinamerica, becomes in Fedora >>>>>> HispaAmerica :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Nice to be here again..... >>>>>> Fedorize! yourself >>>>>> >>>>>> P. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> S?lvio Reis >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.projectofedora.org/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>>>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> .:: BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ::. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> RazGriz >>>> The Solo_-Wing. >>>> Diretor de Arte >>>> GNU-LIA--=www.gnu-lia.org >>>> 2 Tons Comunica??o >>>> Revista Fedora Brasil >>>> Portal O-Gimp >>>> -=-=:Quem constr?i a realidade ? voc?. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>> >>>> >>> Count me in too. >>> >>> I currently administrate the ProyectoFedora.org Website, so whatever you >>> need, just let me know! >>> >>> You are not alone. >>> >>> -- >>> Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno >>> Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos >>> Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > RazGriz > The Solo_-Wing. > Diretor de Arte > GNU-LIA--=www.gnu-lia.org > 2 Tons Comunica??o > Revista Fedora Brasil > Portal O-Gimp > -=-=:Quem constr?i a realidade ? voc?. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Let's start here, and eventually we'll get to your larger goal. :) --Max From wonderer4711 at gmx.de Thu Jul 31 09:29:45 2008 From: wonderer4711 at gmx.de (wonderer4711 at gmx.de) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:29:45 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Very disappointed - What's our role as ambassadors? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48918609.8030102@gmx.de> S?lvio Reis schrieb: > What is our role as ambassadors? > I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong? > So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal. > But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least > in Portugal. > As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the > project Fedora Portugal. > The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions > to participate in the website. > > More than a month passed and still not got an answer. > The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this > adventure, *should I start the project without any support? * I don't think so. as some said before YOU ARE NOT ALONE. As you can see there are many helping hands here. I also can get you in contact with uni.lu and TUDOR. There you can place permanent Posters, Flyers, etc. You see, there are many infos that will come... > > The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as > Eunir Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo > Padula. > In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and > just does not have a community. > So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki. Here I want to ask you to use existing Ressources as long as there is no need for it. You mentioned that you are at this time ONE Ambassador. How many "Users" or people are "around" you? Or can you imagine how many this would be? Why do you need another wiki and another Community Site? Is there REALLY a need for it? Maybe you can ask the Webmaster of http://www.fedoraforum.org/ if he can put in another section for Luxemburg. I think you have a Fedora Account, so you can put up under your wiki-Site some facts or Links to the facts in the wiki. That can be a first shot of a Startingpoint. Then as mentioned a little project or event and look how many people come. > We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to > translate the Fedora. > With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating > next month. > The question is: who will be there? > That is why I ask your opinion: > *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of > another 5 Portuguese ambassadors?* As I said: If i would do such a thing I would look wich ressources I can allready use for a first start. Think of our 4-Foundations: *http://tinyurl.com/5ft5qa *Then the rest will come ... as you can see here ;-) best regards Henrik Heigl - wonderer at fedoraproject.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Do share with us your plans for the forthcoming software freedom day on September 20th. Thanks. -- Harish Pillay, Singapore h.pillay at ieee.org gpg id: 746809E3 fingerprint: F7F5 5CCD 25B9 FC25 303E 3DA2 0F80 27DB 7468 09E3 From tatadbb at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 09:39:24 2008 From: tatadbb at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 05:09:24 +1930 Subject: [Ambassadors] Very disappointed - What's our role as ambassadors? In-Reply-To: <48918609.8030102@gmx.de> References: <48918609.8030102@gmx.de> Message-ID: <27a6293b0807310239q7ec17df2gd57cd79306894285@mail.gmail.com> /me add to list I'm an Ambassador from Venezuela and join me to the list! I'm good with graphics and that stuff. (websites image maybe) so I coul help you to :D. (but you will have to write me the things to put in the banners because I don't speak your native languaje jojojo) Don't feel bad... Neil was the first man over the moon... why can you be the first Fedora ruler of Portugal? ;) 2008/8/1 wonderer4711 at gmx.de > S?lvio Reis schrieb: > > What is our role as ambassadors? > I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong? > So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal. > But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least in > Portugal. > As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the > project Fedora Portugal. > The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to > participate in the website. > > More than a month passed and still not got an answer. > The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this adventure, > *should I start the project without any support? * > > I don't think so. as some said before YOU ARE NOT ALONE. As you can see > there are many helping hands here. I also can get you in contact with > uni.lu and TUDOR. There you can place permanent Posters, Flyers, etc. > You see, there are many infos that will come... > > > The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as Eunir > Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo Padula. > In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and just > does not have a community. > So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki. > > Here I want to ask you to use existing Ressources as long as there is no > need for it. You mentioned that you are at this time ONE Ambassador. How > many "Users" or people are "around" you? Or can you imagine how many this > would be? Why do you need another wiki and another Community Site? Is there > REALLY a need for it? > Maybe you can ask the Webmaster of http://www.fedoraforum.org/ if he can > put in another section for Luxemburg. I think you have a Fedora Account, so > you can put up under your wiki-Site some facts or Links to the facts in the > wiki. That can be a first shot of a Startingpoint. Then as mentioned a > little project or event and look how many people come. > > We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to > translate the Fedora. > With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating next > month. > The question is: who will be there? > That is why I ask your opinion: > *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of another > 5 Portuguese ambassadors?* > > As I said: If i would do such a thing I would look wich ressources I can > allready use for a first start. Think of our 4-Foundations: * > http://tinyurl.com/5ft5qa *Then the rest will come ... as you can see here > ;-) > > > best regards > Henrik Heigl - wonderer at fedoraproject.org > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foxhaund at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 09:44:57 2008 From: foxhaund at gmail.com (Foxhaund) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:44:57 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self-introduction Message-ID: <511774140807310244m6e72ef20ned3164fa33f3d32e@mail.gmail.com> Good afternoon! My name is Dmitry Vorotnikov. I live in Moscow, Russian Federation. I'm using Fedora during 1 year. I'm student of Russian state social university. I'm linguist-translator. I want to promote Fedora Project in Russia, i want to show Fedora to Russian students and pupils. I also want to make a powerful Fedora community in Russian Federation and to make a real good support for Russian FedoraUsers. P.S. Sorry for my English. I can make a mistakes. -- ____________________________________ Best regards, Dmitry (Foxhaund) Vorotnikov.| http://foxhaund.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nareshlx at fedoraproject.org Thu Jul 31 09:54:32 2008 From: nareshlx at fedoraproject.org (Naresh KN) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:24:32 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self-introduction In-Reply-To: <511774140807310244m6e72ef20ned3164fa33f3d32e@mail.gmail.com> References: <511774140807310244m6e72ef20ned3164fa33f3d32e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3d9e71570807310254w21bbee46w667900c5b6596ac7@mail.gmail.com> Welcome aboard mate :) 2008/7/31 Foxhaund > Good afternoon! > > My name is Dmitry Vorotnikov. I live in Moscow, Russian Federation. I'm > using Fedora during 1 year. I'm student of Russian state social university. > I'm linguist-translator. I want to promote Fedora Project in Russia, i want > to show Fedora to Russian students and pupils. I also want to make a > powerful Fedora community in Russian Federation and to make a real good > support for Russian FedoraUsers. > > P.S. Sorry for my English. I can make a mistakes. > > > -- > ____________________________________ > Best regards, Dmitry (Foxhaund) Vorotnikov.| http://foxhaund.org > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foxhaund at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 10:05:07 2008 From: foxhaund at gmail.com (Foxhaund) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:05:07 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self-introduction In-Reply-To: <3d9e71570807310254w21bbee46w667900c5b6596ac7@mail.gmail.com> References: <511774140807310244m6e72ef20ned3164fa33f3d32e@mail.gmail.com> <3d9e71570807310254w21bbee46w667900c5b6596ac7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <511774140807310305j203bead6s150255b47f941193@mail.gmail.com> Thank you ;) 2008/7/31 Naresh KN > Welcome aboard mate :) > > 2008/7/31 Foxhaund > >> Good afternoon! >> >> My name is Dmitry Vorotnikov. I live in Moscow, Russian Federation. I'm >> using Fedora during 1 year. I'm student of Russian state social university. >> I'm linguist-translator. I want to promote Fedora Project in Russia, i want >> to show Fedora to Russian students and pupils. I also want to make a >> powerful Fedora community in Russian Federation and to make a real good >> support for Russian FedoraUsers. >> >> P.S. Sorry for my English. I can make a mistakes. >> >> >> -- >> ____________________________________ >> Best regards, Dmitry (Foxhaund) Vorotnikov.| http://foxhaund.org >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- ____________________________________ ? ?????????, Foxhaund.| http://foxhaund.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From francesco at ephisia.org Thu Jul 31 11:15:31 2008 From: francesco at ephisia.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:15:31 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Very disappointed - What's our role as ambassadors? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, S?lvio Reis wrote: > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:44:27 +0200 > From: S?lvio Reis > Reply-To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Subject: [Ambassadors] Very disappointed - What's our role as ambassadors? > > What is our role as ambassadors? > I think that is promoting the Fedora in our country, am i wrong? > So I became ambassador to promote Fedora in Portugal. > But I believe there are ambassadors who don't think this way, at least in > Portugal. > As already announced in this list, it will start soon the site for the > project Fedora Portugal. > The other 5 Portuguese ambassadors were invited on several occasions to > participate in the website. > > More than a month passed and still not got an answer. > The point is this: I live in Luxembourg and I am alone in this > adventure, *should > I start the project without any support? * > > The only support I have had, has been the Brazilian ambassadors as Eunir > Augusto (which made most of the work!), Erick Gomes and Rodrigo Padula. > In Portugal Fedora is unknown, has a bad translation, has no wiki and just > does not have a community. > So we urgently need a web site with a forum and a wiki. > We need to bring together the users, and encouraging more people to > translate the Fedora. > With the help of Brazilian ambassadors, the site could start operating next > month. > The question is: who will be there? > That is why I ask your opinion: > *it is worth starting the site even alone, without the support of another 5 > Portuguese ambassadors?* > > S?lvio Reis > > http://www.projectofedora.org/ > Ambassadors are people coming from different experiences that work promoting Fedora around the world, joining events (e.g. LUG meeting, Linux events etc...), talking with people. Your role as ambassador it to represent Fedora in your city, in your state and wherever you are. It's an important role. You are disappointed because the other people don't help in the site, I think this isn't a problem, everyone help in his own way, so if someone prefer to work in a specific field s/he is free to do this, don't worry. The translation and general localization is one of the most important challanges we are facing, and I'm sure what you are doing and what many other people are doing translating/writing contents is important. Just talk with people and search for new contributors, I'm sure it would the best way. Hoping to give the answer Regards Francesco Ugolini From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Thu Jul 31 11:44:03 2008 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:44:03 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 9 CD/DVDs In-Reply-To: <1217452842.5112.14.camel@victoria> References: <1217443387.3493.7.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> <1217447744.3493.26.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> <1217450356.3027.3.camel@F9NB.homenet.local> <1217452842.5112.14.camel@victoria> Message-ID: <42310.VwBUX1dRCno=.1217504643.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> > Gerold -- I don't know if this is on the Ambassadors areas of the wiki > somewhere, but it's very useful information. If Ambassadors have some > guidelines for how many pieces of media they should consider requesting, > it helps in the overall budget planning as well. > > It may not be as simple as saying "1 CD for every {5,10,...} people." > For some small events, it makes sense to have 1 piece of media for each > person. For some larger ones, the ratio may need to be smaller if we > want to stay within budget! > > This would be a useful thing to consider drafting and having the > Ambassador community think about. I don't think it needs to be an > absolute rule, but rather a guideline for planning. > We could only have a simple page with a recap of each event in this matter: how much people were there ? How much CDs were given ? After some time, we could build some empirical rules over those numbers... This would be an easy solution to set sup, and it would fill very quickly as we have lots of events all around the world, providing rather good statistical informations... ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin From francesco at ephisia.org Thu Jul 31 12:26:02 2008 From: francesco at ephisia.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:26:02 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 9 CD/DVDs In-Reply-To: <42310.VwBUX1dRCno=.1217504643.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> References: <1217443387.3493.7.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> <1217447744.3493.26.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> <1217450356.3027.3.camel@F9NB.homenet.local> <1217452842.5112.14.camel@victoria> <42310.VwBUX1dRCno=.1217504643.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:44:03 +0200 (CEST) > From: "Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)" > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Cc: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 9 CD/DVDs > >> Gerold -- I don't know if this is on the Ambassadors areas of the wiki >> somewhere, but it's very useful information. If Ambassadors have some >> guidelines for how many pieces of media they should consider requesting, >> it helps in the overall budget planning as well. >> >> It may not be as simple as saying "1 CD for every {5,10,...} people." >> For some small events, it makes sense to have 1 piece of media for each >> person. For some larger ones, the ratio may need to be smaller if we >> want to stay within budget! >> >> This would be a useful thing to consider drafting and having the >> Ambassador community think about. I don't think it needs to be an >> absolute rule, but rather a guideline for planning. >> > We could only have a simple page with a recap of each event in this > matter: how much people were there ? How much CDs were given ? > > After some time, we could build some empirical rules over those numbers... > > This would be an easy solution to set sup, and it would fill very quickly > as we have lots of events all around the world, providing rather good > statistical informations... > > > ---------- > > Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) > French Fedora Ambassador > > ---------- > "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, > deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Generally we use events report posted in Ambassadors list/Fedora Planet to get those information, so we can compare the CDs we send/found with the reports people give. It could seems confusing, but this system help the event owner and who use this numbers (see FAmSCo, Community Architecture, etc...). Regards Francesco Ugolini From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 13:33:11 2008 From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:33:11 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self-introduction In-Reply-To: <511774140807310244m6e72ef20ned3164fa33f3d32e@mail.gmail.com> References: <511774140807310244m6e72ef20ned3164fa33f3d32e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/7/31 Foxhaund > Good afternoon! > > My name is Dmitry Vorotnikov. I live in Moscow, Russian Federation. I'm > using Fedora during 1 year. I'm student of Russian state social university. > I'm linguist-translator. I want to promote Fedora Project in Russia, i want > to show Fedora to Russian students and pupils. I also want to make a > powerful Fedora community in Russian Federation and to make a real good > support for Russian FedoraUsers. > ????????????, ???????, ????? ?????????? ? ???? or Hello dear, welcome to the club (used Google translate, I don't know Russian:)) -- Regards mak ----------------------- Hacking is good Hackers human Dan Quayle - "For NASA, space is still a high priority." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ailsoncamargo at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 13:54:23 2008 From: ailsoncamargo at gmail.com (Ailson Camargo de Sousa - ITO) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:54:23 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self-introduction In-Reply-To: References: <511774140807310244m6e72ef20ned3164fa33f3d32e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <640d350b0807310654u19dba1b4rebc9e4a46009b4c9@mail.gmail.com> Welcome Dmitry Vorotnikov.! 2008/7/31 mak > 2008/7/31 Foxhaund > >> Good afternoon! >> >> My name is Dmitry Vorotnikov. I live in Moscow, Russian Federation. I'm >> using Fedora during 1 year. I'm student of Russian state social university. >> I'm linguist-translator. I want to promote Fedora Project in Russia, i want >> to show Fedora to Russian students and pupils. I also want to make a >> powerful Fedora community in Russian Federation and to make a real good >> support for Russian FedoraUsers. >> > > ????????????, ???????, ????? ?????????? ? ???? > or > Hello dear, welcome to the club > > (used Google translate, I don't know Russian:)) > > > -- > Regards > mak > ----------------------- > Hacking is good > Hackers human > Dan Quayle - "For NASA, space is still a high priority." > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Ailson Camargo de Sousa Engenharia Mecatr?nica - UnC - Curitibanos _________________________ Linux User #448828 Fone (49)-8808-0586 ailsoncamargo at gmail.com itocamargo at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I also want to make a >>> powerful Fedora community in Russian Federation and to make a real good >>> support for Russian FedoraUsers. >>> >> >> ????????????, ???????, ????? ?????????? ? ???? >> or >> Hello dear, welcome to the club >> >> (used Google translate, I don't know Russian:)) >> >> >> -- >> Regards >> mak >> ----------------------- >> Hacking is good >> Hackers human >> Dan Quayle - "For NASA, space is still a high priority." >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > Ailson Camargo de Sousa > Engenharia Mecatr?nica - UnC - Curitibanos > _________________________ > Linux User #448828 > Fone (49)-8808-0586 > ailsoncamargo at gmail.com > itocamargo at hotmail.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- ____________________________________ ? ?????????, Foxhaund.| http://foxhaund.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We like to have him around because it shows how even kids can use Linux -- even though most kids don't code in Perl, but I digress). Also, we had the Red Hat "Truth Happens" video looping on the main table during the course of the event, something we hadn't done on the first two. But about the first two events: Two of the three Lindependence events took place on July 13 and July 15 at the Felton Presbyterian Church in Felton, California. For a very short recap of the project, Lindependence is introducing GNU/Linux to the town of Felton during the month of July with the intention of a.) introducing Linux and FOSS to people and convert folks one town at a time, and b.) inspiring other GNU/Linux and FOSS advocates to do the same project in their own communities, with our help of course. We had originally planned to hold a Microsoft-free week at the end of July (this week, actually), however we found that so many people converted to GNU/Linux that it made the "comparison week" moot. More on this a little later. Four major distros -- Fedora, Mandriva, Ubuntu and Debian -- had representatives at the meetings, as well as OpenOffice.org About 150 people came over the course of four hours on Sunday (July 13) and perhaps the most interesting facet of the project was that people were asking to have their laptops and desktops converted from Windows -- they had had enough of Microsoft and they were looking for something new. By our estimation, 10-15 people left with GNU/Linux on their computers which personally I found astounding. Live CDs flew out the door. Frankly, I thought people would be apprehensive about trying GNU/Linux and FOSS, but there was such a groundswell against the Redmond product that it was awe-inspiring. While I was doing most of the oversight of the project as its organizer, I also represented Fedora and answered questions, showed Fedora 9 on both a iBook G3 and a Dell 5000 Inspiron laptop, and I handed out some Fedora 9 live CDs -- the live CDs were from the Cabrillo College GNU/Linux Users Group -- with my card in case they needed support. Were I not responsible for the entire event, I would have had more time to represent Fedora solely, and Frank Turner of Cabrillo GLUG helped at the table (Frank also did the signage and professional-looking CD stickers for Fedora 9 Live CDs). While we handed out a significant number of live CDs -- 20-30 by my estimation -- I don't think any of the computers that left the building on Sunday or Tuesday had Fedora on them. On Tuesday 7/15, about 50-75 people showed up to check out GNU/Linux, and with it being more low-key, I was able to talk about Fedora more with folks who attended, giving away a significant number of live CDs. The tone was pretty much the same: We've had enough of Windows -- we want a change. Another 10-15 people left with GNU/Linux on mostly laptops, but at least two desktops were converted. Again, one of the things about this project that is very surprising is that people more fed up with Windows than I had thought, to the point where they don't even want to consider dual-booting or just trying Linux from a live CD -- many people during those two days wanted to "get this s**t off my machine" and install Linux straight away and have it solely as their operating system. At final count -- those who converted on site and those who contacted me to say they converted -- there were 28 converts to GNU/Linux and FOSS. Of these, two had trouble with their new OS: One fellow hosed his grub while tweaking it, and that required a house call to fix (and specific instructions NOT to go under the hood until he learns more about the system, which he promises to do), and the second had problems during her install on Tuesday and, from what I hear (I can't reach her directly, so I'm getting this second-hand), she may go back to Windows. As for the project itself, it is moving about 6 miles north to Boulder Creek, California, and requests have been made for a town near Portland, Ore., and others. Larry Cafiero 2008/7/30 Karsten 'quaid' Wade : > I missed the first few events, so will rely upon Larry put something > together on those. This is my report from the final Lindependence 2008 > day on Saturday 26 July. > > The event was held in a church hall in the town of Felton, as part of > the effort of teaching and transforming a small town to using FLOSS: > > http://www.lindependence.net/ > > I set up a table for Fedora, with banner, posters, and two laptops. I > spent a chunk of my time trying to get a live USB to work; there is > either a problem with the batch of USB keys I have, or my T41 laptop was > messing it up. From all of that I was able to show a few Fedora > features, mainly the live USB capabilities. > > Over the course of the day, there seemed to be up to several dozen > people there, including a documentary film maker[1], and several kids. > One of them, a 12 year-old boy, was a full-on Mandriva freak. Whatever > they do for him, Mandriva has earned a good proponent. :) > > As an installfest, this event was not highly successful, in that people > brought questions instead of machines to install. :( Of the questions > about existing or upcoming Linux installs, the majority of discussion > went to Ubuntu. There was one person who came late-ish to represent > Ubuntu, he was quite knowledgeable about Fedora as well. I added his > Ubuntu ISO to mine for an install server, but no one ended up using it. > > As an education event with an equal or greater focus on moving people > along toward freedom and open source, it was a fair success. For > example, I talked extensively with a person from a small ISV interested > in being in Fedora. I also explained open source, business models, etc. > Across the series of events (three separate days, iirc), up to one > hundred people came in contact with the FLOSS advocates at the event. > That is a sizeable % of the town population, and word of mouth seemed to > be in effect. > > Outcomes from this (series of) event(s): > > * The forming of a new G/LUG in Felton > * Another Lindependence in Boulder Creek > * Potentially another Lindependence in a town in Oregon > > What interests me about this methodology is the focus on small, > relatively insular communities that have a higher than average number of > people passionate about freedom. > > So far I've spent about $50 of the $500 budgeted to me for this event > series. That was used for making three vinyl banners of 'infinity', > 'freedom', and 'voice' that are joining the (Western reagion) event kit. > > Larry and I thought it was a good idea to save the rest of the budget to > support the Lindependence event in Boulder Creek. We'll get a Fedora > sponsorship for that, and I'm planning to give a general FLOSS talk at > one of those events, as well as providing installfest support. > > - Karsten > > [1] http://www.digitaltippingpoint.com/ > -- > Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. > Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com > Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org > gpg key : AD0E0C41 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > From jtaber at plandecsys.com Thu Jul 31 16:24:08 2008 From: jtaber at plandecsys.com (John Taber) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:24:08 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self Introduction Message-ID: <4891E728.8060705@plandecsys.com> Hi everyone, I run a strategic planning consulting company (city/traffic/land development) using intelligent systems that I have developed over the years. I also run a company that will be shortly launching a web service for the above. Have a wide range of experience especially throughout the transportation industry. I'm also an adjunct professor and looks like I'll be teaching some entry level and AI courses this year. Been running Linux since 1998 and switched our company to it full time in 2000. Find it lame when most companies (especially big ones) say they can't or it's so difficult to make the switch. Albeit there's a few exceptions - engrs use Autocad - but even some of those firms are using Samba with RH servers. I do our web development now in Python (but also speak Ruby/Rails, PHP, Java ). All our graphics are in SVG and I am a strong advocate of SVG. We use Inkscape a lot so I help out each year at SCALE with the Inkscape project and give presentations on it at user groups. I also evangelize Linux/Open Source where ever I go. I keep reminding customers why they need open source (choice of options, features (like built in pdf, cd burning, backups, ....) upgrades, tech support). At hotels when I see business people struggling - I tell them about how we run on Linux and how they can too - then I suggest a dual boot system and give them a CD. At a bookstore I got a college student running OpenOffice on her Mac when I overheard her complaining about cost - a week later she was thrilled and telling her friends. Active with several local user groups (Utah Open Source, Python, Ruby, PHP). I hope to work with Fedora on college student initiatives - maybe act as some sort of Faculty advisor. I also hope to make more presentations to business groups on open source. Maybe coordinate CIO/CTO breakfasts, whatever. -- John Taber, Ph.D. PlanDecSys, Inc. 1501 South Loop 288 S.104 Denton, TX 76205 940-206-9763 From david at gnsa.us Thu Jul 31 15:31:28 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:31:28 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self Introduction In-Reply-To: <4891E728.8060705@plandecsys.com> References: <4891E728.8060705@plandecsys.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:24 PM, John Taber wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I run a strategic planning consulting company (city/traffic/land > development) using intelligent systems that I have developed over the years. > I also run a company that will be shortly launching a web service for the > above. Have a wide range of experience especially throughout the > transportation industry. > I'm also an adjunct professor and looks like I'll be teaching some entry > level and AI courses this year. > > Been running Linux since 1998 and switched our company to it full time in > 2000. Find it lame when most companies (especially big ones) say they can't > or it's so difficult to make the switch. Albeit there's a few exceptions - > engrs use Autocad - but even some of those firms are using Samba with RH > servers. > I do our web development now in Python (but also speak Ruby/Rails, PHP, Java > ). All our graphics are in SVG and I am a strong advocate of SVG. We use > Inkscape a lot so I help out each year at SCALE with the Inkscape project > and give presentations on it at user groups. > > I also evangelize Linux/Open Source where ever I go. I keep reminding > customers why they need open source (choice of options, features (like built > in pdf, cd burning, backups, ....) upgrades, tech support). At hotels when > I see business people struggling - I tell them about how we run on Linux and > how they can too - then I suggest a dual boot system and give them a CD. At > a bookstore I got a college student running OpenOffice on her Mac when I > overheard her complaining about cost - a week later she was thrilled and > telling her friends. > > Active with several local user groups (Utah Open Source, Python, Ruby, PHP). > I hope to work with Fedora on college student initiatives - maybe act as > some sort of Faculty advisor. I also hope to make more presentations to > business groups on open source. Maybe coordinate CIO/CTO breakfasts, > whatever. > -- > John Taber, Ph.D. > PlanDecSys, Inc. > 1501 South Loop 288 S.104 > Denton, TX 76205 > 940-206-9763 > Welcome John! From foxhaund at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 16:08:45 2008 From: foxhaund at gmail.com (Foxhaund) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:08:45 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self Introduction In-Reply-To: References: <4891E728.8060705@plandecsys.com> Message-ID: <511774140807310908t3227d15lc444004491bdbaf5@mail.gmail.com> Welcome to the team) 2008/7/31 David Nalley > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:24 PM, John Taber > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I run a strategic planning consulting company (city/traffic/land > > development) using intelligent systems that I have developed over the > years. > > I also run a company that will be shortly launching a web service for > the > > above. Have a wide range of experience especially throughout the > > transportation industry. > > I'm also an adjunct professor and looks like I'll be teaching some entry > > level and AI courses this year. > > > > Been running Linux since 1998 and switched our company to it full time in > > 2000. Find it lame when most companies (especially big ones) say they > can't > > or it's so difficult to make the switch. Albeit there's a few exceptions > - > > engrs use Autocad - but even some of those firms are using Samba with RH > > servers. > > I do our web development now in Python (but also speak Ruby/Rails, PHP, > Java > > ). All our graphics are in SVG and I am a strong advocate of SVG. We > use > > Inkscape a lot so I help out each year at SCALE with the Inkscape project > > and give presentations on it at user groups. > > > > I also evangelize Linux/Open Source where ever I go. I keep reminding > > customers why they need open source (choice of options, features (like > built > > in pdf, cd burning, backups, ....) upgrades, tech support). At hotels > when > > I see business people struggling - I tell them about how we run on Linux > and > > how they can too - then I suggest a dual boot system and give them a CD. > At > > a bookstore I got a college student running OpenOffice on her Mac when I > > overheard her complaining about cost - a week later she was thrilled and > > telling her friends. > > > > Active with several local user groups (Utah Open Source, Python, Ruby, > PHP). > > I hope to work with Fedora on college student initiatives - maybe act as > > some sort of Faculty advisor. I also hope to make more presentations to > > business groups on open source. Maybe coordinate CIO/CTO breakfasts, > > whatever. > > -- > > John Taber, Ph.D. > > PlanDecSys, Inc. > > 1501 South Loop 288 S.104 > > Denton, TX 76205 > > 940-206-9763 > > > > Welcome John! > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ____________________________________ ? ?????????, Foxhaund.| http://foxhaund.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pbarrera488 at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 16:12:36 2008 From: pbarrera488 at gmail.com (Pablo Barrera) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:12:36 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self-introduction In-Reply-To: <511774140807310244m6e72ef20ned3164fa33f3d32e@mail.gmail.com> References: <511774140807310244m6e72ef20ned3164fa33f3d32e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <950c97800807310912s6b068731y905da3437108b1ae@mail.gmail.com> Welcome Russia!!! 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URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Jul 31 17:01:32 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:01:32 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Report: Lindependence 2008 In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080807310755h2c474609rc4d4f877dc90b8f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <1217474576.10618.300.camel@calliope.phig.org> <7a0d56080807310755h2c474609rc4d4f877dc90b8f9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Larry Cafiero wrote: > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:55:02 -0700 > From: Larry Cafiero > Reply-To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Event Report: Lindependence 2008 > > To supplement Karsten's thorough report below, I will take some items > from an earlier report made on the first two Lindependence events (so > if some of this seems familiar, I apologize). > > Karsten is right about the third event: There was a different feel to > the 7/26 event than the first two. More people were "just shopping" > rather than bringing their machines in for installation (and as for > Kai, the 12-year-old Mandriva "advocate," he is a member of the > Cabrillo College GNU/Linux Users Group and gets the passion for his > distro from his uncle. We like to have him around because it shows how > even kids can use Linux -- even though most kids don't code in Perl, > but I digress). > > Also, we had the Red Hat "Truth Happens" video looping on the main > table during the course of the event, something we hadn't done on the > first two. > > But about the first two events: > > Two of the three Lindependence events took place on July 13 and July > 15 at the Felton Presbyterian Church in Felton, California. For a very > short recap of the project, Lindependence is introducing GNU/Linux to > the town of Felton during the month of July with the intention of a.) > introducing Linux and FOSS to people and convert folks one town at a > time, and b.) inspiring other GNU/Linux and FOSS advocates to do the > same project in their own communities, with our help of course. > > We had originally planned to hold a Microsoft-free week at the end of > July (this week, actually), however we found that so many people > converted to GNU/Linux that it made the "comparison week" moot. More > on this a little later. > > Four major distros -- Fedora, Mandriva, Ubuntu and Debian -- had > representatives at the meetings, as well as OpenOffice.org > > About 150 people came over the course of four hours on Sunday (July > 13) and perhaps the most interesting facet of the project was that > people were asking to have their laptops and desktops converted from > Windows -- they had had enough of Microsoft and they were looking for > something new. By our estimation, 10-15 people left with GNU/Linux on > their computers which personally I found astounding. Live CDs flew out > the door. Frankly, I thought people would be apprehensive about trying > GNU/Linux and FOSS, but there was such a groundswell against the > Redmond product that it was awe-inspiring. > > While I was doing most of the oversight of the project as its > organizer, I also represented Fedora and answered questions, showed > Fedora 9 on both a iBook G3 and a Dell 5000 Inspiron laptop, and I > handed out some Fedora 9 live CDs -- the live CDs were from the > Cabrillo College GNU/Linux Users Group -- with my card in case they > needed support. Were I not responsible for the entire event, I would > have had more time to represent Fedora solely, and Frank Turner of > Cabrillo GLUG helped at the table (Frank also did the signage and > professional-looking CD stickers for Fedora 9 Live CDs). While we > handed out a significant number of live CDs -- 20-30 by my estimation > -- I don't think any of the > computers that left the building on Sunday or Tuesday had Fedora on them. > > On Tuesday 7/15, about 50-75 people showed up to check out GNU/Linux, > and with it being more low-key, I was able to talk about Fedora more > with folks who attended, giving away a significant number of live CDs. > The tone was pretty much the same: We've had enough of Windows -- we > want a change. Another 10-15 people left with GNU/Linux on mostly > laptops, but at least two desktops were converted. > > Again, one of the things about this project that is very surprising is > that people more fed up with Windows than I had thought, to the point > where they don't even want to consider dual-booting or just trying > Linux from a live CD -- many people during those two days wanted to > "get this s**t off my machine" and install Linux straight away and > have it solely as their operating system. > > At final count -- those who converted on site and those who contacted > me to say they converted -- there were 28 converts to GNU/Linux and > FOSS. Of these, two had trouble with their new OS: One fellow hosed > his grub while tweaking it, and that required a house call to fix (and > specific instructions NOT to go under the hood until he learns more > about the system, which he promises to do), and the second had > problems during her install on Tuesday and, from what I hear (I can't > reach her directly, so I'm getting this second-hand), she may go back > to Windows. > > As for the project itself, it is moving about 6 miles north to Boulder > Creek, California, and requests have been made for a town near > Portland, Ore., and others. > > Larry Cafiero > > > 2008/7/30 Karsten 'quaid' Wade : >> I missed the first few events, so will rely upon Larry put something >> together on those. This is my report from the final Lindependence 2008 >> day on Saturday 26 July. >> >> The event was held in a church hall in the town of Felton, as part of >> the effort of teaching and transforming a small town to using FLOSS: >> >> http://www.lindependence.net/ >> >> I set up a table for Fedora, with banner, posters, and two laptops. I >> spent a chunk of my time trying to get a live USB to work; there is >> either a problem with the batch of USB keys I have, or my T41 laptop was >> messing it up. From all of that I was able to show a few Fedora >> features, mainly the live USB capabilities. >> >> Over the course of the day, there seemed to be up to several dozen >> people there, including a documentary film maker[1], and several kids. >> One of them, a 12 year-old boy, was a full-on Mandriva freak. Whatever >> they do for him, Mandriva has earned a good proponent. :) >> >> As an installfest, this event was not highly successful, in that people >> brought questions instead of machines to install. :( Of the questions >> about existing or upcoming Linux installs, the majority of discussion >> went to Ubuntu. There was one person who came late-ish to represent >> Ubuntu, he was quite knowledgeable about Fedora as well. I added his >> Ubuntu ISO to mine for an install server, but no one ended up using it. >> >> As an education event with an equal or greater focus on moving people >> along toward freedom and open source, it was a fair success. For >> example, I talked extensively with a person from a small ISV interested >> in being in Fedora. I also explained open source, business models, etc. >> Across the series of events (three separate days, iirc), up to one >> hundred people came in contact with the FLOSS advocates at the event. >> That is a sizeable % of the town population, and word of mouth seemed to >> be in effect. >> >> Outcomes from this (series of) event(s): >> >> * The forming of a new G/LUG in Felton >> * Another Lindependence in Boulder Creek >> * Potentially another Lindependence in a town in Oregon >> >> What interests me about this methodology is the focus on small, >> relatively insular communities that have a higher than average number of >> people passionate about freedom. >> >> So far I've spent about $50 of the $500 budgeted to me for this event >> series. That was used for making three vinyl banners of 'infinity', >> 'freedom', and 'voice' that are joining the (Western reagion) event kit. >> >> Larry and I thought it was a good idea to save the rest of the budget to >> support the Lindependence event in Boulder Creek. We'll get a Fedora >> sponsorship for that, and I'm planning to give a general FLOSS talk at >> one of those events, as well as providing installfest support. >> >> - Karsten >> >> [1] http://www.digitaltippingpoint.com/ >> -- >> Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. >> Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com >> Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org >> gpg key : AD0E0C41 >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Thank you for both the reports, they are impressive! Regards Francesco Ugolini From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Jul 31 17:05:26 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:05:26 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Report: Palmetto Open Source Software Conference In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 30 Jul 2008, David Nalley wrote: > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:34:00 -0400 > From: David Nalley > Reply-To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Report: Palmetto Open Source Software Conference > > I attended POSSCon today - it's a first year - seemingly business > oriented event - more so than community oriented. I actually came > across the event accidentally, and signed up last minute. Parking was > about 1.5 blocks. from the event. When I got down to the building > there were 65 people waiting outside. I was impressed by the turnout - > as I sit inside the auditorium there are over 100 people here now. The > Keynote from the Blue Cross Blue Shield guy seemed to be spreading a > lot of FUD about the liability of using open source software. I > thought that was all over with?? Maybe I have just been desentized > after all the SCO stuff. > Next up was Greg DeKoenigsberg - he was a welcome relief - adding a > little humor and doing a base level presentation of what open source > means, and how and where it excels. The audience is really more IT and > business people and not really Linux or open source zealots, so this > level of talk was good. > After Greg was done we took a break and I setup an impromptu 'booth' > and talked to people about Fedora, and Linux, etc. I say impromptu > because there were no other booths, and one hadn't really been > planned. Greg had brought a stack of ~50 LiveCDs and DVDs for a > presentation I was planning on making in Greenville. I initially > brought about 20 of the LiveCDs that Greg brought - within 5 minutes > they were gone along with the stack of business cards I had set out. I > retrieved more - and would guess that all 50 were gone with 30 > minutes. I put my business cards up front and told people that if they > didn't receive a LiveCD that they should send me an email and I'd make > sure they received one. > A shocking number of people at this open source conference haven't > tried open source software to any depth - not even OpenOffice.org > Following this was a really basic demonstration of OpenOffice.org. The > presenter was a professor at the University of South Carolina who had > her students create end-user howtos for OpenOffice.org this past year. > I introduced myself to her and told her about the varied documentation > projects we had at the Fedora Project and told her that I'd be happy > to come down and introduce the Fedora Project to her students and see > if we couldn't have some of their projects help Fedora out. She seemed > receptive to this thought. > I also met a comp sci. professor from Benedict College who was > interested in Fedora and I told her I'd follow up with her and see if > we could at least introduce Fedora for them. > During lunch professors from two other universities talked to Greg > about incorporating Open Source into their Comp Sci programs and some > of those conversations seemed like they have potential for doing > interesting things, perhaps akin to Seneca College, though it's > probably far too soon to speculate. > The following session was from an IP lawyer - he seemed to lean > towards more FUD. Though he has 20+ years in IP law, I really missed > the EFF types or the Duke Law people. > The last presentation was from a Ruby developer who worked for the > state. His presentation was somewhat interesting and he revealed that > they are hosting a Ruby Conference. I told him I would see if schedule > allowed for Fedora to show up and talk. > The final event was a roundtable that had people from small and large > businesses answering questions about their open source deployments. > Someone asked the question if they encouraged their employees to > contribute to the open source software projects they used. One of the > panel members said that they would be upset if their employees were > working on things other than 'work'. I posited the view that > contributing back to the community was invaluable for the following > reasons: > 1. It builds expertise like no training every will. > 2. It potentially means that $feature_desired_by_company will be > implemented or implemented sooner. Being part of the community means > that they can help point the project in a direction they want. > I further argued that one of the panelists had said that they offer a > 'disclaimer' to their customers that they are using Postgresql as > their RDBMS as they consider it a risk point. I offered that if they > were seeking to allay customer fears they'd 'force' one or more of > their employees to contribute so they could show their customers that > they know the product well enough that they contribute. > One of the business-types had the value dawn on him - but said that > while some of these businesses may not be able to justify > 'development' time they could certainly justify writing 'test cases' > and doing QA on projects they were using. Neither of us seemed warmly > received by the business types on the panel - but you could see light > bulbs going off around the room and it generated a number of > post-event conversations about getting involved in open source > projects. I have around half a dozen people to follow up with now. > > It was a good turnout for a first year event. I wish it had been > better advertised, particularly outside of Columbia. > I also wished they had balanced end-users with community a bit more - > but I made a number of contacts that would probably have not shown up > to something much more geeky. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Great report and good work! Regards Francesco Ugolini From kwade at redhat.com Thu Jul 31 19:00:24 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:00:24 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxWorld SF - who, what, other planning Message-ID: <1217530824.13450.10.camel@calliope.phig.org> Anyone going to LinuxWorld next week? Want to help with the Fedora booth? 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On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Larry Cafiero wrote: > To supplement Karsten's thorough report below, I will take some items > from an earlier report made on the first two Lindependence events (so > if some of this seems familiar, I apologize). > > Karsten is right about the third event: There was a different feel to > the 7/26 event than the first two. More people were "just shopping" > rather than bringing their machines in for installation (and as for > Kai, the 12-year-old Mandriva "advocate," he is a member of the > Cabrillo College GNU/Linux Users Group and gets the passion for his > distro from his uncle. We like to have him around because it shows how > even kids can use Linux -- even though most kids don't code in Perl, > but I digress). > > Also, we had the Red Hat "Truth Happens" video looping on the main > table during the course of the event, something we hadn't done on the > first two. > > But about the first two events: > > Two of the three Lindependence events took place on July 13 and July > 15 at the Felton Presbyterian Church in Felton, California. For a very > short recap of the project, Lindependence is introducing GNU/Linux to > the town of Felton during the month of July with the intention of a.) > introducing Linux and FOSS to people and convert folks one town at a > time, and b.) inspiring other GNU/Linux and FOSS advocates to do the > same project in their own communities, with our help of course. > > We had originally planned to hold a Microsoft-free week at the end of > July (this week, actually), however we found that so many people > converted to GNU/Linux that it made the "comparison week" moot. More > on this a little later. > > Four major distros -- Fedora, Mandriva, Ubuntu and Debian -- had > representatives at the meetings, as well as OpenOffice.org > > About 150 people came over the course of four hours on Sunday (July > 13) and perhaps the most interesting facet of the project was that > people were asking to have their laptops and desktops converted from > Windows -- they had had enough of Microsoft and they were looking for > something new. By our estimation, 10-15 people left with GNU/Linux on > their computers which personally I found astounding. Live CDs flew out > the door. Frankly, I thought people would be apprehensive about trying > GNU/Linux and FOSS, but there was such a groundswell against the > Redmond product that it was awe-inspiring. > > While I was doing most of the oversight of the project as its > organizer, I also represented Fedora and answered questions, showed > Fedora 9 on both a iBook G3 and a Dell 5000 Inspiron laptop, and I > handed out some Fedora 9 live CDs -- the live CDs were from the > Cabrillo College GNU/Linux Users Group -- with my card in case they > needed support. Were I not responsible for the entire event, I would > have had more time to represent Fedora solely, and Frank Turner of > Cabrillo GLUG helped at the table (Frank also did the signage and > professional-looking CD stickers for Fedora 9 Live CDs). While we > handed out a significant number of live CDs -- 20-30 by my estimation > -- I don't think any of the > computers that left the building on Sunday or Tuesday had Fedora on them. > > On Tuesday 7/15, about 50-75 people showed up to check out GNU/Linux, > and with it being more low-key, I was able to talk about Fedora more > with folks who attended, giving away a significant number of live CDs. > The tone was pretty much the same: We've had enough of Windows -- we > want a change. Another 10-15 people left with GNU/Linux on mostly > laptops, but at least two desktops were converted. > > Again, one of the things about this project that is very surprising is > that people more fed up with Windows than I had thought, to the point > where they don't even want to consider dual-booting or just trying > Linux from a live CD -- many people during those two days wanted to > "get this s**t off my machine" and install Linux straight away and > have it solely as their operating system. > > At final count -- those who converted on site and those who contacted > me to say they converted -- there were 28 converts to GNU/Linux and > FOSS. Of these, two had trouble with their new OS: One fellow hosed > his grub while tweaking it, and that required a house call to fix (and > specific instructions NOT to go under the hood until he learns more > about the system, which he promises to do), and the second had > problems during her install on Tuesday and, from what I hear (I can't > reach her directly, so I'm getting this second-hand), she may go back > to Windows. > > As for the project itself, it is moving about 6 miles north to Boulder > Creek, California, and requests have been made for a town near > Portland, Ore., and others. > > Larry Cafiero > > > 2008/7/30 Karsten 'quaid' Wade : > > I missed the first few events, so will rely upon Larry put something > > together on those. This is my report from the final Lindependence 2008 > > day on Saturday 26 July. > > > > The event was held in a church hall in the town of Felton, as part of > > the effort of teaching and transforming a small town to using FLOSS: > > > > http://www.lindependence.net/ > > > > I set up a table for Fedora, with banner, posters, and two laptops. I > > spent a chunk of my time trying to get a live USB to work; there is > > either a problem with the batch of USB keys I have, or my T41 laptop was > > messing it up. From all of that I was able to show a few Fedora > > features, mainly the live USB capabilities. > > > > Over the course of the day, there seemed to be up to several dozen > > people there, including a documentary film maker[1], and several kids. > > One of them, a 12 year-old boy, was a full-on Mandriva freak. Whatever > > they do for him, Mandriva has earned a good proponent. :) > > > > As an installfest, this event was not highly successful, in that people > > brought questions instead of machines to install. :( Of the questions > > about existing or upcoming Linux installs, the majority of discussion > > went to Ubuntu. There was one person who came late-ish to represent > > Ubuntu, he was quite knowledgeable about Fedora as well. I added his > > Ubuntu ISO to mine for an install server, but no one ended up using it. > > > > As an education event with an equal or greater focus on moving people > > along toward freedom and open source, it was a fair success. For > > example, I talked extensively with a person from a small ISV interested > > in being in Fedora. I also explained open source, business models, etc. > > Across the series of events (three separate days, iirc), up to one > > hundred people came in contact with the FLOSS advocates at the event. > > That is a sizeable % of the town population, and word of mouth seemed to > > be in effect. > > > > Outcomes from this (series of) event(s): > > > > * The forming of a new G/LUG in Felton > > * Another Lindependence in Boulder Creek > > * Potentially another Lindependence in a town in Oregon > > > > What interests me about this methodology is the focus on small, > > relatively insular communities that have a higher than average number of > > people passionate about freedom. > > > > So far I've spent about $50 of the $500 budgeted to me for this event > > series. That was used for making three vinyl banners of 'infinity', > > 'freedom', and 'voice' that are joining the (Western reagion) event kit. > > > > Larry and I thought it was a good idea to save the rest of the budget to > > support the Lindependence event in Boulder Creek. We'll get a Fedora > > sponsorship for that, and I'm planning to give a general FLOSS talk at > > one of those events, as well as providing installfest support. > > > > - Karsten > > > > [1] http://www.digitaltippingpoint.com/ > > -- > > Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. > > Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com > > Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org > > gpg key : AD0E0C41 > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ---------- Matt M. LinuxKnight -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Larry Cafiero On 7/31/08, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > Anyone going to LinuxWorld next week? > > Want to help with the Fedora booth? > > Yep, a little late in the planning, but, oh well. :) > > Let's start filling out the who, what, where, and when here: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/LinuxWorld_SF_2008 > > (I started to fix that page up, it still needs some help.) > > - Karsten > > -- > Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. > Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com > Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org > gpg key : AD0E0C41 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > From lucas at cefetce.br Thu Jul 31 22:50:39 2008 From: lucas at cefetce.br (Lucas Saboya) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:50:39 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self Introduction In-Reply-To: <511774140807310908t3227d15lc444004491bdbaf5@mail.gmail.com> References: <4891E728.8060705@plandecsys.com> <511774140807310908t3227d15lc444004491bdbaf5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: welcome to the free side of the force :) 2008/7/31 Foxhaund > Welcome to the team) > > 2008/7/31 David Nalley > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:24 PM, John Taber >> wrote: >> > Hi everyone, >> > >> > I run a strategic planning consulting company (city/traffic/land >> > development) using intelligent systems that I have developed over the >> years. >> > I also run a company that will be shortly launching a web service for >> the >> > above. Have a wide range of experience especially throughout the >> > transportation industry. >> > I'm also an adjunct professor and looks like I'll be teaching some entry >> > level and AI courses this year. >> > >> > Been running Linux since 1998 and switched our company to it full time >> in >> > 2000. Find it lame when most companies (especially big ones) say they >> can't >> > or it's so difficult to make the switch. Albeit there's a few >> exceptions - >> > engrs use Autocad - but even some of those firms are using Samba with RH >> > servers. >> > I do our web development now in Python (but also speak Ruby/Rails, PHP, >> Java >> > ). All our graphics are in SVG and I am a strong advocate of SVG. We >> use >> > Inkscape a lot so I help out each year at SCALE with the Inkscape >> project >> > and give presentations on it at user groups. >> > >> > I also evangelize Linux/Open Source where ever I go. I keep reminding >> > customers why they need open source (choice of options, features (like >> built >> > in pdf, cd burning, backups, ....) upgrades, tech support). At hotels >> when >> > I see business people struggling - I tell them about how we run on Linux >> and >> > how they can too - then I suggest a dual boot system and give them a CD. >> At >> > a bookstore I got a college student running OpenOffice on her Mac when I >> > overheard her complaining about cost - a week later she was thrilled and >> > telling her friends. >> > >> > Active with several local user groups (Utah Open Source, Python, Ruby, >> PHP). >> > I hope to work with Fedora on college student initiatives - maybe act as >> > some sort of Faculty advisor. I also hope to make more presentations >> to >> > business groups on open source. Maybe coordinate CIO/CTO breakfasts, >> > whatever. >> > -- >> > John Taber, Ph.D. >> > PlanDecSys, Inc. >> > 1501 South Loop 288 S.104 >> > Denton, TX 76205 >> > 940-206-9763 >> > >> >> Welcome John! >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > > -- > ____________________________________ > ? ?????????, Foxhaund.| http://foxhaund.org > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. > > :::: CONTRIBUA COM O MEIO AMBIENTE. N?O IMPRIMA ESTA MENSAGEM ::::: > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I want to promote Fedora Project in Russia, i want >>> to show Fedora to Russian students and pupils. I also want to make a >>> powerful Fedora community in Russian Federation and to make a real good >>> support for Russian FedoraUsers. >>> >>> P.S. Sorry for my English. 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