From santosh at fedoraproject.org Thu May 1 19:36:50 2008 From: santosh at fedoraproject.org (Santosh Kumar) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 14:36:50 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Torrents for Fedora 9 Message-ID: Hi everyone I'm for sure excited about the Fedora 9 being released in just another 12 days from now. I can chip in an unlimited amount of bandwidth for the torrents for the initial download rush when released. Is there any way by which, i can be prepared to seed the torrents on time? Or, should i download it when its released and then start seeding? whats the best option ?? Regards -- Santosh Kumar **************** CAUTION - Disclaimer ************ This e-mail contains PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by e-mail and delete the original message. 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Or, should i download it when its released and then start seeding? whats the best option ?? > > Regards > -- > Santosh Kumar > > > **************** CAUTION - Disclaimer ************ > This e-mail contains PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by e-mail and delete the original message. Further, you are not to copy, disclose, or distribute this e-mail or its contents to any other person and any such actions are unlawful. This e-mail may contain viruses. Every reasonable precaution to minimize this risk, but is not liable for any damage you may sustain as a result of any virus in this e-mail. You should carry out your own virus checks before opening the e-mail or attachment. Author reserves the right to monitor and review the content of all messages sent to or from this e-mail address. Messages sent to or from this e-mail address may be stored on the e-mail system permanently. > *************** End of Disclaimer ************* > > ------------------------- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From gerold at lugd.org Thu May 1 20:14:13 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 22:14:13 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Torrents for Fedora 9 In-Reply-To: <481A21D6.50503@reuschlein.de> References: <481A21D6.50503@reuschlein.de> Message-ID: <1209672853.3551.34.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> I think you should give your offer directly to Mike McGrath who will tell you what to do, ... ... if possible :-) Enjoy Sulphur --g Am Donnerstag, den 01.05.2008, 22:02 +0200 schrieb Peter Reuschlein: > Hi there, same for me, > i waited till the release then first leeched the versions and seeded > with serveral servers afterwards. But would be nice to get the isos > before the release to be ready to seed when then torrent is published. > Sometimes it takes pretty long to get the hole thing leeched as there > are not enough seeders in the beginning. > > greetings > Peter > > Santosh Kumar schrieb: > > Hi everyone > > I'm for sure excited about the Fedora 9 being released in just > another 12 days from now. I can chip in an unlimited amount of bandwidth > for the torrents for the initial download rush when released. Is there > any way by which, i can be prepared to seed the torrents on time? Or, > should i download it when its released and then start seeding? whats the > best option ?? > > > > Regards > > -- > > Santosh Kumar > > > > > > **************** CAUTION - Disclaimer ************ > > This e-mail contains PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION intended > solely for the use of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended > recipient, please notify the sender by e-mail and delete the original > message. 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URL: From jkeating at redhat.com Thu May 1 21:31:24 2008 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 17:31:24 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linux Fest Northwest Message-ID: <1209677484.29415.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Ah, the smell of the salty air; the crystal clear sky over a beautiful skyline; the busses quietly humming by on their electric powered motors; Starbucks on just about every corner; Seattle, I have arrived. I love this city, I really do. The people, the scenes, the ocean, the sushi, I just can't get enough of it. I spent a couple days getting back together with my friends from the area; developers, system builders, IT admins, etc... We talk shop, family, weather, and take in a Mariners game at the wonderful Safeco Field. I'm reluctant to leave, but trek north we must for Linux Fest Northwest. In Bellingham we arrive, somewhat late at night. Driving through the downtown area we spot a large banner hanging across the street advertising the Fest. Times have certainly changed. It's certainly fun to see the influx of geeks mesh with the biker bars and the college crowd. At the hotel you can tell it's fest time. Lobby filled with geeks: laptops, ham radios, smarmy t-shirts abound; excited conversations about kernels and desktops, and rpms, and debs, and who's going to win Alpha Geek this year. Snickering comments about whether or not the hotel wireless will withstand the abuse a hotel full of Linux geeks can throw at it, and a bemused rueful grin is the only answer one gets from the hotel staff (turns out that the hotel internet is pretty unusable by the time we arrive, but there is open wireless somewhere near that still works!). A few hours later, after having scrambled to finish up my presentation slides, I collapse into sleep. Very excited about the next morning, dreading the early wake up time though. Of course I wake up an hour before the alarm is set, but that gives me time to write this down. Shower, quick hotel breakfast, a few last minute discussions with fellow Festies and we're off to the show! Day 1 Lots of excited people filing into the college. Booths mostly setup, last minute scrambles and fixes that always happen. Almost double the exhibitor space this year, a welcome surprise. The usual suspects are in place, Novell, Google, Ubuntu, hey look, a Mandriva! Many booths are using Fedora on their display systems, hooray! I attend a talk from a friend who is now a Google employee. This is a talk about network protocols and the various evil things folks can do along those protocols. Many people seemed surprised at how many vectors there are to attack and will certainly be thinking twice about what protocols they use. >From there I go to another talk, this one on Grease Monkey. Fascinating stuff, however it really showed that one would have to know javascript pretty well to take full advantage of it. Next up is my first talk, A sneak peek at Fedora 9. Ustream has a video, and slides are here. This talk went great. I got to showcase a lot of really cool features in Fedora 9, as well as give out USB keys pre-loaded with almost Fedora 9. As soon as the audience caught on to the fact that asking questions got you a USB key I started getting a lot more questions. Not just your typical mp3 questions (which in fact wasn't asked at all!) but more interesting ones, like what is IPA and what about the Certificate Server and things like that. The audience was nice and engaged and seemed reluctant for the talk to end which is always a good sign. I get dragged into the "Alpha Geek" competition where I do horribly, no surprise there. It was still incredibly fun especially since there were a few Fedora questions which seemed a little unfair given me being a competitor. The after party was as after parties are, but with a twist. This one had a fair number of ways to damage one's self. Brews, pizza, loud music, oh and lots of electricity generating devices. What fun! The party was set in American Museum of Radio and Electricity. Lots of fantastic old devices to look at and play with plus lots of open source consumers/creators with loosened tongues and stories to tell. After a few hours, the crew I hang out with migrated to our traditional haunt during the fest. A Greek restaurant/bar that just happens to be within stumbling distance of our hotel. Alas they ran out of Grey Goose rather early. Rehashing of the days events, reminisces of years gone by, and lots of jokes and innuendos thrown about. A few friends stop by to share a drink and a story and before you know it the bar is closing and it's time to capture some sleep before the next day begins. Day 2 A quick blast through Starbucks and we're on our way to the final day of LFNW. I've got a talk in the first time slot, "Fedora Distribution Toolbox" (Video, Slides). Here I get to show off all the cool tools and services that Fedora has created, fostered, adopted, etc.. over the past few years to make our distribution happen completely on opensource software. There were fewer attendees for this talk, partly because they were aware that the talk would be available as a video later where some other talks wouldn't (also, they knew I had no more USB keys to give away). I still got a good number of questions, particularly around koji, transifex, and MirrorManager. A number of people after the talk informed me that they were much more inclined to bring their software into Fedora and work with Fedora as a distribution mechanism after hearing about all the tools we create and the ideals we hold dear. There were a number of other people who were interested in taking our tools and using them for their own needs. I think I'll give this talk more often as it seems to be an enlightening one. I didn't make it to any further talks that day, I was too busy chatting 1 on 1 with various attendees who had further questions about Fedora or about some software they were writing and would like to get into Fedora. Before I knew it time had come for me to run the Fedora Birds of a Feather. I saw a lot of familiar faces, those that had been in my previous two talks, but a number of new faces as well. The BOF started off a little slow with people a little shy about asking questions but the conversations did finally get rolling. After the 3rd or so question related to my previous talks somebody had the bright idea to quickly run through the presentations again for those that might have missed it. Lightening round begin! I blew through the presentations pretty quickly and still got a few questions along the way. Once again we were way over time but people seemed reluctant to leave. Finally we had to usher them out as the campus was closing and my ride was leaving. Exhausted I fell into the back of my friend's car. Satisfied with yet another great LFNW trip and sad that I was leaving the area in a few days and leaving my friends behind. This show has always been one of my favorites. It's very "grass roots"; free admission, word of mouth advertising for the most part, planned in open meetings, and very welcoming of speakers and exhibitors. I will continue to go for as long as the show exists and I can get funding to make the trek. The timing of the show makes it a great target to show off Fedora's next release and to talk about whatever seemed important for that release cycle. If anybody lives in the greater northwest area of the US I would highly recommend making the trip to see this show. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Sun May 4 09:10:56 2008 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 11:10:56 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1830 #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20080504111057.38cb3e40@agnetha.mrtomlinux> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2008-05-04 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (04 mai) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'h?sitez pas ? la modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent int?ressants. Thomas Canniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Wie gesagt die Banner wechseln sich st?ndig, > > wenn Du die also nich siehst mach einfach "Refresh " ;-) > > Gr??e > > Alessandra -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From fab at fedoraproject.org Mon May 5 14:57:14 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 16:57:14 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAD LinuxTag 2008 Message-ID: <481F204A.3030501@fedoraproject.org> Hi all, Most of you already know that there will be a Fedora Ambassadors Day at Berlin. We want to invite all Ambassadors to join us there, even if you don't attend LinuxTag. But if you attend LinuxTag it's forced ;-) Please sign up at the FAD LinuxTag 2008 page [1]. So far are 13 persons registered but there are 24 listed in the booth personal table. - Hollywood Media Hotel, Berlin - Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - start will be around 20.00 Uhr (8pm) Kind regards, Fabian [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADLinuxTag2008 From irashadul at gmail.com Mon May 5 17:36:01 2008 From: irashadul at gmail.com (Rashadul Islam) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 13:36:01 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Report : Fedora 9 Release Event at Montreal Message-ID: <17fa59580805051036wb62815fh111c555c9da51a1e@mail.gmail.com> Hi All: I have prepared the report for all about Fedora 9 Release Event at Concordia University and McGill University, Montreal. Except some proviso the event was very successful. Its my first time experience with Fedora and its respected community. Here is the link: http://rashadul.multiply.com/journal/item/1/Fedora_9_Release_event http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RashadulIslam/Fedora_9_Release_Event_at_Concordia_and_McGill_University?action=diff&rev2=3&rev1=2 Thank you all for the full support and help. Kindly regards, Rashadul Islam Fedora Ambassador Northern America, Canada/Montreal Email: rashadul at fedoraproject.org https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CategoryAmbassadorsCanada -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerold at lugd.org Mon May 5 17:54:50 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 19:54:50 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Linuxtag-fedora] FAD LinuxTag 2008 In-Reply-To: <481F204A.3030501@fedoraproject.org> References: <481F204A.3030501@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1210010090.5271.4.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> SOrry, sorry, sorry ... I didn't share all news I had from the meeting with the Projects Board of Linuxtag (where I was invited as Advisory mamber) ... The Location changed (because it costs us nothing) to Messe Berlin somewhere in a meeting room (details will follow) Regards Gerold Am Montag, den 05.05.2008, 16:57 +0200 schrieb Fabian Affolter: > Hi all, > > Most of you already know that there will be a Fedora Ambassadors Day at > Berlin. We want to invite all Ambassadors to join us there, even if you > don't attend LinuxTag. But if you attend LinuxTag it's forced ;-) > > Please sign up at the FAD LinuxTag 2008 page [1]. So far are 13 persons > registered but there are 24 listed in the booth personal table. > > - Hollywood Media Hotel, Berlin > - Tuesday, May 27, 2008 > - start will be around 20.00 Uhr (8pm) > > Kind regards, > > Fabian > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADLinuxTag2008 > _______________________________________________ > Linuxtag-Fedora mailing list > Linuxtag-Fedora at fedora.rootfiles.net > https://www.rootfiles.net/mailman/listinfo/linuxtag-fedora > -- Gerold Kassube -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From jbasse at fedoraproject.org Tue May 6 08:23:47 2008 From: jbasse at fedoraproject.org (Jonathan Basse) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 09:23:47 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] How a company may help FedoraProject ? Message-ID: <200805060923.51315.jbasse@fedoraproject.org> Hello there, Beside my role of TAM for Red Hat one of my customer came with the following question on my @fedoraproject.org address. As I am not really sure how to deal with that any advice would be much appreciate ! ================================================= as we disscussed, I'm very intressed to hear how company's can best help the community. What lack the Fedora Community to be more successfull in producing a rock solid Linux Distribution, As foundation for Red Hat Enterprise Linux? I d'like to make a proposal how we can give the community somthing back thx for your feedback mike" ================================================= Thanks a lot in advance ! Regards, -- Jonathan Basse Belgium Fedora Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JonathanBasse 8950 BC80 1B18 41F3 52B7 F8D9 6225 2536 608A EEE9 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <200805060923.51315.jbasse@fedoraproject.org> References: <200805060923.51315.jbasse@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <48201F55.1010501@fedoraproject.org> Jonathan Basse wrote: > Hello there, > > Beside my role of TAM for Red Hat one of my customer came with the following > question on my @fedoraproject.org address. > > As I am not really sure how to deal with that any advice would be much > appreciate ! > > ================================================= > > as we disscussed, I'm very intressed to hear how company's can best help the > community. > > What lack the Fedora Community to be more successfull in producing a rock > solid Linux Distribution, As foundation for Red Hat Enterprise Linux? > > I d'like to make a proposal how we can give the community somthing back > > thx for your feedback mike" > > ================================================= That's a interesting offer but depends really on what the company's expertise is: * If they are willing to donate hardware or resources, refer http://fedoraproject.org/sponsors. * Bring their applications into the Fedora repository (and EPEL) if they are open source * Assist with testing releases, providing feedback and patches for what they consider important at a fraction of the cost required to push changes into a commercial product * Porting. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures I would suggest asking them to talk to the Fedora Board and establish a working relationship that is mutually favourable. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board Hope that helps. Rahul From kanarip at kanarip.com Tue May 6 10:02:18 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 12:02:18 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] How a company may help FedoraProject ? In-Reply-To: <200805060923.51315.jbasse@fedoraproject.org> References: <200805060923.51315.jbasse@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <48202CAA.40900@kanarip.com> Jonathan Basse wrote: > Hello there, > > Beside my role of TAM for Red Hat one of my customer came with the following > question on my @fedoraproject.org address. > > As I am not really sure how to deal with that any advice would be much > appreciate ! > > ================================================= > > as we disscussed, I'm very intressed to hear how company's can best help the > community. > > What lack the Fedora Community to be more successfull in producing a rock > solid Linux Distribution, As foundation for Red Hat Enterprise Linux? > > I d'like to make a proposal how we can give the community somthing back > > thx for your feedback mike" > I think there's a couple of things a company could do to help the community. In no particular order: 1) Use Fedora intensively, ranging from just developers' (should they have any) and administrators' workstations to end-user desktops. The experience they gain with using Fedora this way will gain them Red Hat Enterprise Linux experience in the long run, as there's usually no surprise to be found in RHEL for anyone intensively using Fedora. The community gains a relatively large, corporate party that can contribute back in ways ranging from logging bugs they encounter on various hardware, and with various software, actively searching for bugs in packages or the distribution itself, writing documentation, bug triaging and patching software either upstream or in Fedora, packaging software from upstream or becoming upstream for the software a company might consider to open-source and license Free, all the way to actively developing new technologies the company finds interesting -or is just willing to invest in, for the greater good. It is up to the company how deeply they want to get involved, and either way it's rewarding in that the newest technologies Fedora brings you now, will at some point end up in mainstream. This is the easiest way of contributing back to the community; it requires little commitment in accepting that it will not work flawlessly at all times, and it can easily change from passive participant to active contributor and back. 2) Aid in fairly straightforward business on Fedora's side; I'm not saying these are simple tasks (it's closer to the other extreme) but for a company I'm thinking letting that system administrator participate in -for example- Fedora's Infrastructure team is fairly easy. 3) Develop software using Fedora, or develop software especially for Fedora. Either join an existing project and improve it in ways only companies have use-cases for (RH Emerging Technologies does this kind of thing), or develop FOSS software to be used with Fedora. This doesn't necessarily have to happen at the enterprise or corporate level; some of my customers will let me spend some of my time on contributing stuff that doesn't have anything to do with their business. 4) Weigh-in; actively participating in discussions, raising new ideas and spending some effort on pursuing what the company thinks should happen is certainly valuable. It brings a new pair of eyes to the table, hopefully looking at things a little differently. This of course ranges from participating in Marketing efforts, to raising new ideas on fedora-devel-list or evaluating new features to be added to Fedora during it's development cycle. 5) Of course, corporate resources in form of sponsorship are welcome too ;-) If a company does not have developers or Linux-savvy administrators, or it doesn't consider the type of effort involved with FOSS to fit with the company profile, contributing back is as simple as saying "Hey, what do you need? I might have a little something for you." My $.02 ;-) Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From linux at elfshadow.net Tue May 6 11:58:37 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 07:58:37 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Report : Fedora 9 Release Event at Montreal In-Reply-To: <17fa59580805051036wb62815fh111c555c9da51a1e@mail.gmail.com> References: <17fa59580805051036wb62815fh111c555c9da51a1e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10e0a9b00805060458w4e812d56nfe1931189d99d651@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/5 Rashadul Islam : > > I have prepared the report for all about Fedora 9 Release Event at Concordia > University and McGill University, Montreal. Except some proviso the event > was very successful. Its my first time experience with Fedora and its > respected community. > > Here is the link: > http://rashadul.multiply.com/journal/item/1/Fedora_9_Release_event Thanks for the report! It sounds like the event went very well. That was a great idea to take names of people who would want Fedora 9 media once it was released - a good way to handle the release date slipping and still allowing you to be prepared for the already scheduled event. Thank you for your work! Regards, Jeffrey From danishka at gmail.com Tue May 6 14:56:21 2008 From: danishka at gmail.com (Danishka Navin) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 20:26:21 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 9 in 3lines Message-ID: As per media channel request I got an invitation to sit for a TV program (IT) in Sri Lanka. I have to speak about basically Fedora localization and I have a chance of highlighting the Fedora 9 release too. Recording will be held on tomorrow. Due to limited lime I have give short and sweet explanation for Fedora 9. So, Appreciate your ideas. :) Regards, -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com (use English + Sinhala Unicode fonts) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stickster at gmail.com Tue May 6 15:28:47 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 11:28:47 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Report : Fedora 9 Release Event at Montreal In-Reply-To: <10e0a9b00805060458w4e812d56nfe1931189d99d651@mail.gmail.com> References: <17fa59580805051036wb62815fh111c555c9da51a1e@mail.gmail.com> <10e0a9b00805060458w4e812d56nfe1931189d99d651@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1210087727.5507.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 07:58 -0400, Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: > 2008/5/5 Rashadul Islam : > > > > I have prepared the report for all about Fedora 9 Release Event at Concordia > > University and McGill University, Montreal. Except some proviso the event > > was very successful. Its my first time experience with Fedora and its > > respected community. > > > > Here is the link: > > http://rashadul.multiply.com/journal/item/1/Fedora_9_Release_event > > Thanks for the report! It sounds like the event went very well. That > was a great idea to take names of people who would want Fedora 9 media > once it was released - a good way to handle the release date slipping > and still allowing you to be prepared for the already scheduled event. > > Thank you for your work! Maybe our FreeMedia or SponsoredMedia programs could help Rashadul fill the orders from these folks, if by no other means than sending him copies to forward? I'm not sure what our previous policy has been for situations like this, but I agree that taking requests in advance and following up on them is certainly a good thing! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From balajig81 at gmail.com Wed May 7 09:24:42 2008 From: balajig81 at gmail.com (G) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 14:54:42 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Let me introduce myself Message-ID: <6dd1343e0805070224u33604818k7310875bfd1416f0@mail.gmail.com> Hi This is Balaji from India . I reside in chennai and i work for an TeleCom Company as a Software developer. I am happy to be part of the Fedora Ambassadors team and i look forward to extend my contributions more to the fedora project. I am already part of the Bug Triagging team and test packages from the bodhi repository and give feedback to the developers.We use Fedora in our company/projects to a great extent. Now that i ve become an official member of the Ambassadors team i would like to help in expanding the fedora user base and the contributor base. Things which i feel could be done to kick off my contribution: 1.There are lot of people whom i know who are new to Linux and i help them setting up fedora in their boxes/laptops . I ve been doing that and would continue to do that. 2. There are tech savy people whom i know are interested in being part of big open source projects but are not in a position to start contributing to the projects. I feel this would be a great opportunity to pull in those people to be part of the Contributors team 3. As mentioned above there are lot of people who use fedora in my place of work and hence would like to act as a funnel between those people and the fedora community to bring in their ideas and suggestions that would help us in improving the experience. I would appreciate any sugestions on the above points :) Look forward for this exciting journey. Cheers, Balaji From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed May 7 09:35:46 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 15:05:46 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Let me introduce myself In-Reply-To: <6dd1343e0805070224u33604818k7310875bfd1416f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <6dd1343e0805070224u33604818k7310875bfd1416f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <482177F2.9080800@fedoraproject.org> "G" wrote: > Hi > > This is Balaji from India . I reside in chennai and i work for an > TeleCom Company as a Software developer. I am happy to be part of the > Fedora Ambassadors team and i look forward to extend my contributions > more to the fedora project. Good to have you here. Welcome to Fedora Project. I am already part of the Bug Triagging > team and test packages from the bodhi repository and give feedback to > the developers.We use Fedora in our company/projects to a great > extent. Willing to let us know how many systems/users roughly? Note that we are also desperately looking for more Indian mirrors and if you/your organization is interesting in helping out, let me know. > 1.There are lot of people whom i know who are new to Linux and i help > them setting up fedora in their boxes/laptops . I ve been doing that > and would continue to do that. There seems to be a few ambassadors in Chennai now. Maybe you all can together and hold a release party following the Fedora 9 release. If you coordinate with the local LUG, it would be a great opportunity to reach more users. Videos linked from http://jkeating.livejournal.com/59623.html can come in handy for knowing what's new in the release. > 2. There are tech savy people whom i know are interested in being part > of big open source projects but are not in a position to start > contributing to the projects. I feel this would be a great opportunity > to pull in those people to be part of the Contributors team We have opportunities all over the place to do exactly that. http://fedoraproject.org/join-fedora > 3. As mentioned above there are lot of people who use fedora in my > place of work and hence would like to act as a funnel between those > people and the fedora community to bring in their ideas and > suggestions that would help us in improving the experience. Wishlist sort of approach doesn't tend to go very well with community projects but collaboration certainly will. Rahul From balajig81 at gmail.com Wed May 7 10:02:55 2008 From: balajig81 at gmail.com (G) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 15:32:55 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Let me introduce myself In-Reply-To: <482177F2.9080800@fedoraproject.org> References: <6dd1343e0805070224u33604818k7310875bfd1416f0@mail.gmail.com> <482177F2.9080800@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <6dd1343e0805070302n226442a9v5b746ee72f33a63f@mail.gmail.com> Hi > Good to have you here. Welcome to Fedora Project. Thank you so much and i am happy and excited to be part of this project. > Willing to let us know how many systems/users roughly? Note that we are > also desperately looking for more Indian mirrors and if you/your > organization is interesting in helping out, let me know. In my project which is a 10 member team we have some 6-7 boxes running fedora and this is just in one project so there are many projects where fedora is installed as THE linux Distribution.Regarding setting up the mirrors, i shall take this up with the company and will let you know whats happening on this front. I would like to know some details on this. What would be the bandwidth required to set this up and what kind of systems you feel would be good enough to handle the load.and any other details that would help me in taking this forward too >There seems to be a few ambassadors in Chennai now. Maybe you all can > together and hold a release party following the Fedora 9 release. If you > coordinate with the local LUG, it would be a great opportunity to reach more > users. True !!! If i am in chennai during/immediately after the release we ambassadors (from chennai) will collaborate and hold a release part for sure . It would be really enjoyable. i might be out of station for a week though i would be able to check mails and participate virtually and share the joy after the release :) > We have opportunities all over the place to do exactly that. Yeah exactly there is lot of info but lot of my friends ask me on how to contribute and stuff like that though i used to point them to the same link i felt that a little bit of intro on what happens in Fedora ( a small introduction on whats happening) should be really useful i feel :) > Wishlist sort of approach doesn't tend to go very well with community > projects but collaboration certainly will. Yeah wishlist does not work as every wish could not be satisfied and morever certain things would not just work out but what i meant here was not exactly wish list which would be like it would be good if Fedora 10 has got mp3 support by default so that i could play mp3s but places where fedora could improve upon not from the micro level on a feature by feature basis but something on on a macro level. Ubuntu has something called as an ideastorm/brainstorm but their they discuss specific features where votes are given for each feature but here i thought some feedback and suggestions from people if they have any i feel should reach the fedora project in time . Please let me know if you have any suggestions too Thanks, Cheers, Balaji On 5/7/08, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > "G" wrote: > > > Hi > > > > This is Balaji from India . I reside in chennai and i work for an > > TeleCom Company as a Software developer. I am happy to be part of the > > Fedora Ambassadors team and i look forward to extend my contributions > > more to the fedora project. > > > > Good to have you here. Welcome to Fedora Project. > > I am already part of the Bug Triagging > > > team and test packages from the bodhi repository and give feedback to > > the developers.We use Fedora in our company/projects to a great > > extent. > > > > Willing to let us know how many systems/users roughly? Note that we are > also desperately looking for more Indian mirrors and if you/your > organization is interesting in helping out, let me know. > > > > 1.There are lot of people whom i know who are new to Linux and i help > > them setting up fedora in their boxes/laptops . I ve been doing that > > and would continue to do that. > > > > There seems to be a few ambassadors in Chennai now. Maybe you all can > together and hold a release party following the Fedora 9 release. If you > coordinate with the local LUG, it would be a great opportunity to reach more > users. > > Videos linked from > http://jkeating.livejournal.com/59623.html can come in > handy for knowing what's new in the release. > > > > 2. There are tech savy people whom i know are interested in being part > > of big open source projects but are not in a position to start > > contributing to the projects. I feel this would be a great opportunity > > to pull in those people to be part of the Contributors team > > > > We have opportunities all over the place to do exactly that. > > http://fedoraproject.org/join-fedora > > > > 3. As mentioned above there are lot of people who use fedora in my > > place of work and hence would like to act as a funnel between those > > people and the fedora community to bring in their ideas and > > suggestions that would help us in improving the experience. > > > > Wishlist sort of approach doesn't tend to go very well with community > projects but collaboration certainly will. > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed May 7 10:13:55 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 15:43:55 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Let me introduce myself In-Reply-To: <6dd1343e0805070302n226442a9v5b746ee72f33a63f@mail.gmail.com> References: <6dd1343e0805070224u33604818k7310875bfd1416f0@mail.gmail.com> <482177F2.9080800@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805070302n226442a9v5b746ee72f33a63f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <482180E3.6040608@fedoraproject.org> "G" wrote: > > In my project which is a 10 member team we have some 6-7 boxes running > fedora and this is just in one project so there are many projects > where fedora is installed as THE linux Distribution.Regarding setting > up the mirrors, i shall take this up with the company and will let you > know whats happening on this front. I would like to know some details > on this. What would be the bandwidth required to set this up and what > kind of systems you feel would be good enough to handle the load.and > any other details that would help me in taking this forward too http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring Note that the current couple of Indian mirrors don't meet the precise bandwidth requirements and have been despite that since relatively slower mirrors are better than nothing. More such mirrors would help. So if you have the disk space and reasonable bandwidth, your mirror could still be added. >> We have opportunities all over the place to do exactly that. > > Yeah exactly there is lot of info but lot of my friends ask me on how > to contribute and stuff like that though i used to point them to the > same link i felt that a little bit of intro on what happens in Fedora > ( a small introduction on whats happening) should be really useful i > feel :) Agreed. Hand holding people through specific processes that match their interests is still useful c.f. mentors. Rahul From balajig81 at gmail.com Wed May 7 10:33:16 2008 From: balajig81 at gmail.com (G) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 16:03:16 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Let me introduce myself In-Reply-To: <482180E3.6040608@fedoraproject.org> References: <6dd1343e0805070224u33604818k7310875bfd1416f0@mail.gmail.com> <482177F2.9080800@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805070302n226442a9v5b746ee72f33a63f@mail.gmail.com> <482180E3.6040608@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <6dd1343e0805070333s3d50b7bej4078355800c131aa@mail.gmail.com> Hi > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring Thanks for the link . I ll read through it and take it forward. > Agreed. Hand holding people through specific processes that match their > interests is still useful c.f. mentors. One of the Ambassadors Goal says that the Ambassador could recruit people for contributing to the proiect . As an ambassador am i allowed to do it ? . If yes how do i proceed in that front too ? Thanks, Cheers, Balaji On 5/7/08, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > "G" wrote: > > > > > > In my project which is a 10 member team we have some 6-7 boxes running > > fedora and this is just in one project so there are many projects > > where fedora is installed as THE linux Distribution.Regarding setting > > up the mirrors, i shall take this up with the company and will let you > > know whats happening on this front. I would like to know some details > > on this. What would be the bandwidth required to set this up and what > > kind of systems you feel would be good enough to handle the load.and > > any other details that would help me in taking this forward too > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring > > Note that the current couple of Indian mirrors don't meet the precise > bandwidth requirements and have been despite that since relatively slower > mirrors are better than nothing. More such mirrors would help. So if you > have the disk space and reasonable bandwidth, your mirror could still be > added. > > > > > > > We have opportunities all over the place to do exactly that. > > > > > > > Yeah exactly there is lot of info but lot of my friends ask me on how > > to contribute and stuff like that though i used to point them to the > > same link i felt that a little bit of intro on what happens in Fedora > > ( a small introduction on whats happening) should be really useful i > > feel :) > > > > Agreed. Hand holding people through specific processes that match their > interests is still useful c.f. mentors. > > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed May 7 11:31:44 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 17:01:44 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Let me introduce myself In-Reply-To: <6dd1343e0805070333s3d50b7bej4078355800c131aa@mail.gmail.com> References: <6dd1343e0805070224u33604818k7310875bfd1416f0@mail.gmail.com> <482177F2.9080800@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805070302n226442a9v5b746ee72f33a63f@mail.gmail.com> <482180E3.6040608@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805070333s3d50b7bej4078355800c131aa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48219320.4080208@fedoraproject.org> "G" wrote: > Hi > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring > > Thanks for the link . I ll read through it and take it forward. > >> Agreed. Hand holding people through specific processes that match their >> interests is still useful c.f. mentors. > > One of the Ambassadors Goal says that the Ambassador could recruit > people for contributing to the proiect . As an ambassador am i allowed > to do it ? Of course. If yes how do i proceed in that front too ? One of the best ways to be a ambassador for a project is to have a high level overview of the history (important milestones atleast) and changes happening within the project. This includes new features in upcoming releases, governance, issues the community is facing, plans to address those issues etc. Read the relevant lists or atleast the announcements lists and the weekly news reports. While you don't necessarily need to have a keen understanding of every single aspect of the community, having a general idea is important. Being aware of the general steps involved in joining a sub project or at least being aware of the sub project leaders can be quite useful. It is easier to mentor someone else if you are actively doing it yourself. Most importantly, ask questions. If you are comfortable asking it here, that would be just fine. We usually have folks hanging around in #fedora-mktg and #fedora-india IRC channels in freenode for casual conversations too. Rahul From balajig81 at gmail.com Wed May 7 16:12:09 2008 From: balajig81 at gmail.com (G) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 21:42:09 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Let me introduce myself In-Reply-To: <48219320.4080208@fedoraproject.org> References: <6dd1343e0805070224u33604818k7310875bfd1416f0@mail.gmail.com> <482177F2.9080800@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805070302n226442a9v5b746ee72f33a63f@mail.gmail.com> <482180E3.6040608@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805070333s3d50b7bej4078355800c131aa@mail.gmail.com> <48219320.4080208@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <6dd1343e0805070912n39cc6850xb08512df74ee6a27@mail.gmail.com> Hi > Of course. Thanks > One of the best ways to be a ambassador for a project is to have a high > level overview of the history (important milestones atleast) and changes > happening within the project. This includes new features in upcoming > releases, governance, issues the community is facing, plans to address those > issues etc. Read the relevant lists or atleast the announcements lists and > the weekly news reports. > > While you don't necessarily need to have a keen understanding of every > single aspect of the community, having a general idea is important. Being > aware of the general steps involved in joining a sub project or at least > being aware of the sub project leaders can be quite useful. It is easier to > mentor someone else if you are actively doing it yourself. > > Most importantly, ask questions. If you are comfortable asking it here, > that would be just fine. We usually have folks hanging around in > #fedora-mktg and #fedora-india IRC channels in freenode for casual > conversations too. Thanks a lot for the information and i have started talking to the company regarding the mirror setup. They were quite curious to know the benefits they would get in setting up a mirror (public/private) . Some sort of advertisements for the company somewhere in the website and a name mention in the web site ? I would keep you posted on this front . Cheers, Balaji On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > "G" wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring > > > > > > > Thanks for the link . I ll read through it and take it forward. > > > > > > > Agreed. Hand holding people through specific processes that match their > > > interests is still useful c.f. mentors. > > > > > > > One of the Ambassadors Goal says that the Ambassador could recruit > > people for contributing to the proiect . As an ambassador am i allowed > > to do it ? > > > > Of course. > > > If yes how do i proceed in that front too ? > > One of the best ways to be a ambassador for a project is to have a high > level overview of the history (important milestones atleast) and changes > happening within the project. This includes new features in upcoming > releases, governance, issues the community is facing, plans to address those > issues etc. Read the relevant lists or atleast the announcements lists and > the weekly news reports. > > While you don't necessarily need to have a keen understanding of every > single aspect of the community, having a general idea is important. Being > aware of the general steps involved in joining a sub project or at least > being aware of the sub project leaders can be quite useful. It is easier to > mentor someone else if you are actively doing it yourself. > > Most importantly, ask questions. If you are comfortable asking it here, > that would be just fine. We usually have folks hanging around in > #fedora-mktg and #fedora-india IRC channels in freenode for casual > conversations too. > > > > Rahul > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From mspevack at redhat.com Wed May 7 18:01:59 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 14:01:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Reminder about upcoming FUDCons (fwd) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 13:59:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Max Spevack To: fedora-announce-list at redhat.com, fedora-list at redhat.com Subject: Reminder about upcoming FUDCons I wanted to take a moment to remind our community about the 3 FUDCons that are coming up in the next few months, and encourage people to sign up and attend. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon May 30 -- a mini-FUDCon Berlin 2008, which takes place as a part of LinuxTag. LinuxTag itself runs from May 28 - May 31, and Fedora will have a strong presence there each day. June 19-21 -- FUDCon Boston 2008, which will take place in conjunction with the Red Hat Summit. Please sign up on our wiki (follow the link above). This will be a 3 day event with hackfests, presentations, tutorials, etc. FUDCon Boston is 100% free to attend for anyone in the world. September 2008 -- Still in the early planning phases, but we plan to hold a multi-day FUDCon in Prague sometime in September. Follow the link on the wiki if you would like to sign up and express your interest in attending. FUDCon Prague is 100% free to attend for anyone in the world. I look forward to meeting some new members of our community at these events! --Max From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Wed May 7 23:55:23 2008 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 01:55:23 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questione (was: Einladung / Invitation) In-Reply-To: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Dienstag, den 06.05.2008, 22:56 +0200 schrieb Gerold Kassube: > Hi all together for the second, > > because I forgot and some are asking for; there is only a german bank > account possible (if we have elected a new Treasurer) and the > membership fee is EUR 128,-/year for Full membership. This amount can > be payed at Linuxtag in person (because of high transfer costs from > foreign countrys) ... AFAIR the Fedora EMEA NPO was founded to make it easier for us TO RAISE money for Fedora and not TO SPEND it. Or did I get something completely wrong here? IMHO 128 ? is way to much especially for those of us who are not from the wealthy countries of Europe. I think once again the European Ambassadors/Founding members of EMEA did not take the situation of all ambassadors into account. Remember, the letters "ME" in EMEA mean "Middle East" and "A" is for Africa. Has anybody really thought about the people there? Could someone also please point out what the difference between the different membership grades is (full membership, family membership and so on)? According to the declaration of accession to Fedora EMEA the cost-reduced membership requires "a confirmation accepted in the Federal Republic of Germany." What does that mean? Next question: What do I get for my membership? If I read J?rg Simons mail of March 24th 2008 correctly, members are getting a "one-off and exclusive" welcome present, whatever this means. Must be a hell of a present though... ;) Also EMEA members are allowed to vote what to do the raised money. Of course understand this but I'm afraid we are going to divide the ambassadors program into first and second class ambassadors: Those who (can afford to) pay and therefore have more rights and those who don't. Sorry, but this scares me off Christoph From stickster at gmail.com Thu May 8 02:47:39 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 02:47:39 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Using consistent URLs Message-ID: <1210214859.7392.218.camel@localhost.localdomain> One of the issues that we talked about at today's "release readiness" meeting -- made up of reps from many subprojects in Fedora -- the issue of using consistent URLs came up. If we can settle on URLs that can cross releases, and use them consistently for any public communication, it's easier for us to (1) provide a good user experience through superior Web server administration, (2) track on metrics of user visits, and (3) create unified marketing materials. In our press releases, stories for digg, Slashdot, and anywhere else people might see them, let's make sure we are using these URLs: To get Fedora: --> http://get.fedoraproject.org/ To join Fedora: --> http://join.fedoraproject.org/ To read Release Notes: --> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes --> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/ (can be shortened if needed) -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From red at fedoraproject.org Thu May 8 05:34:09 2008 From: red at fedoraproject.org (Sandro "red" Mathys) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 07:34:09 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questione In-Reply-To: <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> Thank you Christoph, I already thought I'm the only guy who's thinking something's going terribly wrong there. +1 on everything, especially the ?128. Even though I can afford that money quite easily, I really have no idea how that helps me to save money for travels to events a.s.o. I thought private persons are welcome as basic members at a small fee (10-20?...maybe less, if I'm thinking about certain countries) and it's the companys that have to pay more for the member- oder even sponsorship. By the way, I've been to Cameroun (West Africa) lately and you can't imagine what it'd mean there to spend ?128. A beer (0.6l) costs about ?0.6 and most people can't even afford to drink a single beer every day (soft drinks are not way cheaper). Can you imagine what it'd meant to spend ?128 for them? And yes, they might be future ambassadors. I've visited some computer schools there and they're doing a good job. They're using Windows and not Linux yet, but maybe that's going to change some day - as soon as it's no longer accepted that they're using illegal licenses for example. Well, my $.02 -- red Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 06.05.2008, 22:56 +0200 schrieb Gerold Kassube: >> Hi all together for the second, >> >> because I forgot and some are asking for; there is only a german bank >> account possible (if we have elected a new Treasurer) and the >> membership fee is EUR 128,-/year for Full membership. This amount can >> be payed at Linuxtag in person (because of high transfer costs from >> foreign countrys) ... > > AFAIR the Fedora EMEA NPO was founded to make it easier for us TO RAISE > money for Fedora and not TO SPEND it. Or did I get something > completely wrong here? > > IMHO 128 ? is way to much especially for those of us who are not from > the wealthy countries of Europe. I think once again the European > Ambassadors/Founding members of EMEA did not take the situation of all > ambassadors into account. Remember, the letters "ME" in EMEA mean > "Middle East" and "A" is for Africa. Has anybody really thought about > the people there? > > Could someone also please point out what the difference between the > different membership grades is (full membership, family membership and > so on)? According to the declaration of accession to Fedora EMEA the > cost-reduced membership requires "a confirmation accepted in the Federal > Republic of Germany." What does that mean? > > Next question: What do I get for my membership? If I read J?rg Simons > mail of March 24th 2008 correctly, members are getting a "one-off and > exclusive" welcome present, whatever this means. Must be a hell of a > present though... ;) > > Also EMEA members are allowed to vote what to do the raised money. Of > course > understand this but I'm afraid we are going to divide the ambassadors > program into first and second class ambassadors: Those who (can afford > to) pay and therefore have more rights and those who don't. > > Sorry, but this scares me off > Christoph > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From gerold at lugd.org Thu May 8 08:34:27 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 10:34:27 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questione In-Reply-To: <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <39773.82.210.244.127.1210235667.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Just ONE small(er) answer because I'm on work and have not the time to respond detailled ... IT IS NOT MANDATORY TO BE MEMEBER OF FEDORA EMEA e.V. AND IT IS NOT PART OF THE AMBASSADORS PROJECT! If you want to discuss, we can do it here BUT the NPO once again is not MANDATORY ... The NPO starts out of the Ambassador Project and at the moment MOST members are also Fedora Ambassador but YOU DON'T NEED TO JOIN! More detailled (I hope) later Regards Gerold > Thank you Christoph, I already thought I'm the only guy who's thinking > something's going terribly wrong there. > > +1 on everything, especially the ???128. > > Even though I can afford that money quite easily, I really have no idea > how that helps me to save money for travels to events a.s.o. > > I thought private persons are welcome as basic members at a small fee > (10-20???...maybe less, if I'm thinking about certain countries) and it's > the companys that have to pay more for the member- oder even sponsorship. > > By the way, I've been to Cameroun (West Africa) lately and you can't > imagine what it'd mean there to spend ???128. A beer (0.6l) costs about > ???0.6 and most people can't even afford to drink a single beer every day > (soft drinks are not way cheaper). Can you imagine what it'd meant to > spend ???128 for them? And yes, they might be future ambassadors. I've > visited some computer schools there and they're doing a good job. > They're using Windows and not Linux yet, but maybe that's going to > change some day - as soon as it's no longer accepted that they're using > illegal licenses for example. > > Well, my $.02 > > -- red > > > Christoph Wickert wrote: >> Am Dienstag, den 06.05.2008, 22:56 +0200 schrieb Gerold Kassube: >>> Hi all together for the second, >>> >>> because I forgot and some are asking for; there is only a german bank >>> account possible (if we have elected a new Treasurer) and the >>> membership fee is EUR 128,-/year for Full membership. This amount can >>> be payed at Linuxtag in person (because of high transfer costs from >>> foreign countrys) ... >> >> AFAIR the Fedora EMEA NPO was founded to make it easier for us TO RAISE >> money for Fedora and not TO SPEND it. Or did I get something >> completely wrong here? >> >> IMHO 128 ??? is way to much especially for those of us who are not from >> the wealthy countries of Europe. I think once again the European >> Ambassadors/Founding members of EMEA did not take the situation of all >> ambassadors into account. Remember, the letters "ME" in EMEA mean >> "Middle East" and "A" is for Africa. Has anybody really thought about >> the people there? >> >> Could someone also please point out what the difference between the >> different membership grades is (full membership, family membership and >> so on)? According to the declaration of accession to Fedora EMEA the >> cost-reduced membership requires "a confirmation accepted in the Federal >> Republic of Germany." What does that mean? >> >> Next question: What do I get for my membership? If I read J??rg Simons >> mail of March 24th 2008 correctly, members are getting a "one-off and >> exclusive" welcome present, whatever this means. Must be a hell of a >> present though... ;) >> >> Also EMEA members are allowed to vote what to do the raised money. Of >> course >> understand this but I'm afraid we are going to divide the ambassadors >> program into first and second class ambassadors: Those who (can afford >> to) pay and therefore have more rights and those who don't. >> >> Sorry, but this scares me off >> Christoph >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From kanarip at kanarip.com Thu May 8 11:31:17 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 13:31:17 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questione In-Reply-To: <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <4822E485.90602@kanarip.com> Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 06.05.2008, 22:56 +0200 schrieb Gerold Kassube: > >> Hi all together for the second, >> >> because I forgot and some are asking for; there is only a german bank >> account possible (if we have elected a new Treasurer) and the >> membership fee is EUR 128,-/year for Full membership. This amount can >> be payed at Linuxtag in person (because of high transfer costs from >> foreign countrys) ... >> > > AFAIR the Fedora EMEA NPO was founded to make it easier for us TO RAISE > money for Fedora and not TO SPEND it. Or did I get something > completely wrong here? > Regardless of the height of the membership fee, Fedora EMEA will enable us, Fedora Ambassadors, to RAISE money easier, as well as SPEND it easier. That money however does not necessarily need to come from your pocket, and if it does, it doesn't necessarily mean it needs to be a membership fee. > IMHO 128 ??????? is way to much especially for those of us who are not from > the wealthy countries of Europe. I think once again the European > Ambassadors/Founding members of EMEA did not take the situation of all > ambassadors into account. Remember, the letters "ME" in EMEA mean > "Middle East" and "A" is for Africa. Has anybody really thought about > the people there? > > Could someone also please point out what the difference between the > different membership grades is (full membership, family membership and > so on)? According to the declaration of accession to Fedora EMEA the > cost-reduced membership requires "a confirmation accepted in the Federal > Republic of Germany." What does that mean? > > Next question: What do I get for my membership? If I read J????rg Simons > mail of March 24th 2008 correctly, members are getting a "one-off and > exclusive" welcome present, whatever this means. Must be a hell of a > present though... ;) > > Also EMEA members are allowed to vote what to do the raised money. Of > course > understand this but I'm afraid we are going to divide the ambassadors > program into first and second class ambassadors: Those who (can afford > to) pay and therefore have more rights and those who don't. > > Sorry, but this scares me off > I do understand there are those of us that will want to become a member, but can't bring up this kind of money; I'm very sorry for that and I'll make sure this issue is raised as soon as we get the chance to reconsider the membership fee. I would like to see more feedback on what it is you think is an appropriate membership fee. Here's a couple of my own personal thoughts on the topic - so take this with a grain of salt, as it does not reflect Fedora EMEA's official policy, or anything other then what I think; Fedora EMEA is founded to provide Ambassadors with a means (non-profit organization) to a goal. This includes all Ambassadors, and not just Ambassadors that are willing to, or able to, become a member of the NPO. Being able to take donations is one of those means, being able to sell (and buy!) stuff is another, not to mention the investments (booths, hotels) now often done by Fedora community members themselves, to a goal that remains similar if not entirely equal between _all_ Ambassadors, and as such is the single most important item to take into consideration each time we consider changing anything within the organization itself, or do anything on the outside. This doesn't say anything about the membership fee, yet, I know. One does not necessarily need to be a member of the NPO in order to claim resources, gain resources or participate in any discussion - In fact I think it is key in the success of Fedora EMEA that this is in no way a requirement, ever. When it comes down to voting on anything however, one is required to be a member -which is a legal requirement in any country we could have founded the NPO, not our own policy. Votes could include electing Board members, changing statutes and membership fee - all directly related to the operation of the NPO within itself - and possibly matters that need to be voted upon from a legal stance. Now if I needed to remind a large subset of Fedora Ambassadors as voting members of the NPO that they need to take into consideration the greater good for _all_ Ambassadors - not to mention all of Fedora Project - and vote accordingly, I'm not as sure about the end-result as I would with kindly reminding any number of voting members that specifically choose to join us because just that (the greater good for all Ambassadors, Fedora Project) is what they're after -specifically-, and they want to take into account EMEA only stands for a subset of the community members dearest to us. I'd like to think that in such cases, we won't even vote on any such thing, rather then vote to let FAmSCo decide and accept their verdict. It's our responsibility to make that work for all of us, and not against any of us. In fact, let me put it like this: The one thing Fedora EMEA will need to remember, is that there is no Fedora EMEA. We're a means to a goal, your goal, our goal. Nothing more, nothing less. Another key in success of Fedora EMEA is that we should not, ever, become the sole NPO that takes money in form of donations or revenue and spend it without regard to any given party that actually enabled anything generating revenue from. Whenever I need to clarify that I like taking "selling Unity Re-Spins" as an example as I'm heavily involved with those as well. I'd like to think that should Fedora EMEA start selling Unity Re-Spins, the revenue (minus production/shipping costs) is not entirely EMEA's to spend. I know they (including me) spend money as well, and lacking an organization like ours, the money comes from out of their(our) own pockets -and they(we) can't take donations in any form. I'd like to think that, should Fedora EMEA start selling Unity Re-Spins, revenue that belongs to them ends up in their spending budget regardless of the factual owner of the bank account the money lives on. One other thing is, what happens with money that we take from donations, that actually belongs to the Fedora Project rather then just Ambassadors? I'm thinking it shouldn't be Ambassadors solely benefiting from any revenue gained -including revenue coming from membership fees. I'm not sure where we're going with this though, yet. Not that I lack vision on the topic; I think we may need to raise the topic with FAmSCo as it is -ohw, how politically correct- not entirely up to us to decide. Again, key to success is to prevent us (Fedora EMEA) from moving inside our own little niche without regard to us (Fedora Project in general and Fedora Ambassadors in particular). That being said I hope Ambassadors understand we are not (at all) aiming to become the largest subset of members within the Fedora Ambassadors FAS group -or any other FAS group for that matter. I hope people in general and Ambassadors in particular understand it is not like a small group of people deciding what the NPO should or should not do. I hope we all understand it is not only Ambassadors we need to take into account but other parties as well. And, that if (read: when) we do need to take all Ambassadors into account, or we, as Ambassadors, need to take into account other parties, the question/problem/issue at hand then is more appropriately being addressed by a group works globally, for us all, and is elected by us and from amongst ourselves, without requirements to any paid-for-membership; FAmSCo. Thank you, Yours sincerely, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From mspevack at redhat.com Thu May 8 15:03:25 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 11:03:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questione In-Reply-To: <39773.82.210.244.127.1210235667.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> <39773.82.210.244.127.1210235667.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: The benefit of having an actual legal entity -- in this case it is called "Fedora EMEA" -- is to make it easier for events related to Fedora to happen in Europe. Think about it this way: The same way that FAMSCo helps to organize (and fund) everything that is happening in Fedora Ambassadors all over the world, the Fedora EMEA group can help to organize (and fund) events that are happening in Fedora. My ultimate goal, in the work that I do with FAMSCo and also in the work that I will be doing in Europe, is this: *** Give the budget that Red Hat sets aside for Fedora directly to the hands of our community leaders, and allow them to make the most of it. *** The reason why the Fedora EMEA "non-profit organization" is important is because it is a "legal entity" that makes it possible for Red Hat to transfer a large chunk of budget (say, several thousand dollars) directly to that organization, and know that the money is being accounted for properly, and being spent on promoting Fedora and community. I don't want people to get caught up in this whole idea of "membership". The goal should not be to raise money from our own Ambassadors, who are already giving us so much. The goal of Fedora EMEA non-profit is to be able to take money from Red Hat in an easier way, and also to be able to take sponsorship money from any other group or company that might want to give it to *Fedora*, but that cannot give it to *Red Hat*. The Fedora community in EMEA -- ambassadors, developers, translators, Red Hat employees, Fedora users -- is my main focus, starting next week. The Fedora EMEA non-profit is simply a *tool that we can use* to help ourselves be better organized. I know that many people will be at LinuxTag in Berlin in a few weeks. I would like to use some of the time that we have when we are all together in a room to talk more about this. Please, if you have any more questions, let me know and let's talk about it. --Max From irashadul at gmail.com Thu May 8 17:09:41 2008 From: irashadul at gmail.com (Rashadul Islam) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 13:09:41 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Report : Fedora 9 Release Event at Montreal In-Reply-To: <1210087727.5507.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <17fa59580805051036wb62815fh111c555c9da51a1e@mail.gmail.com> <10e0a9b00805060458w4e812d56nfe1931189d99d651@mail.gmail.com> <1210087727.5507.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <17fa59580805081009la8f5c28t9521e842f9e6a1ef@mail.gmail.com> Hi Jeffrey and Paul: Thank you for the full support. Regards, Rashadul Islam On 5/6/08, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 07:58 -0400, Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: > > 2008/5/5 Rashadul Islam : > > > > > > I have prepared the report for all about Fedora 9 Release Event at > Concordia > > > University and McGill University, Montreal. Except some proviso the > event > > > was very successful. Its my first time experience with Fedora and its > > > respected community. > > > > > > Here is the link: > > > http://rashadul.multiply.com/journal/item/1/Fedora_9_Release_event > > > > Thanks for the report! It sounds like the event went very well. That > > was a great idea to take names of people who would want Fedora 9 media > > once it was released - a good way to handle the release date slipping > > and still allowing you to be prepared for the already scheduled event. > > > > Thank you for your work! > > Maybe our FreeMedia or SponsoredMedia programs could help Rashadul fill > the orders from these folks, if by no other means than sending him > copies to forward? I'm not sure what our previous policy has been for > situations like this, but I agree that taking requests in advance and > following up on them is certainly a good thing! > > -- > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fab at fedoraproject.org Thu May 8 17:15:42 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 19:15:42 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] OpenExpo 2008 Zurich/Winterthur Message-ID: <4823353E.4090808@fedoraproject.org> Hi all, Some days ago I registered the Fedora Project for a participation at the OpenExpo 2008 [1] at Winterthur (near Zurich / Switzerland). This event is far away in the future for the moment but I think to start early is always a good idea :-) This things are fix: - Wednesday, September 24th and Thursday, September 25th, 2008 - Eulachhallen, Winterthur (20 min by train from Zurich, even less from Zurich's Airport), Switzerland This things are variable for now: - Attendees aka Booth personal - Accommodation - Booth program I would like to invite all Swiss Fedora contributors (translators, ambassadors (the Swiss and the German ones), packager, and other helping hands) to join us there. If you would like to help at this event add yourself to this page [2]. Kind regards, Fabian [1] http://openexpo.ch/ [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/OpenExpo/OpenExpo2008_Zurich From pcalarco at nd.edu Thu May 8 18:06:47 2008 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Vincent Calarco) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 14:06:47 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fwd: North America: Quote for Fedora Polos] Message-ID: <48234137.4000509@nd.edu> Folks, I have received an initial quotation from the Fedora preferred vendor for the North American Ambassadors polos. I asked for different quantities to see how order sizes might affect pricing. Here is more information on the styles: *Style Number:*D100 Devon & Jones Pima Pique Knit in French Blue *Style Description:* 100% Peruvian Pima Cotton. Additional yarn in collar and cuffs for a neater appearance and greater durability; stretch tape in shoulders for extra strength; three-button placket, Dura-pearl? buttons; rib-knit cuffs; grey heather is 90% cotton, 10% polyester. *Style Link:* http://www.4logowearables.com//CDD36BB771654D5EB36ED73F301BA619.asp?pcs_key=F0EE20B664CF47A5ABCAE8981FB83652 *Style Number:*6091 Outerbanks Egyptian Diamond Knit in Royal Blue *Style Description:* 100% Egyptian cotton, 6oz. Luxuriously soft and durable 50/2 ply fabric; no-curl collar; dyed-to-match twill tape neck and side vents; clean, finished three-button placket; locker patch with natural contrast lining. *Style Link:* http://www.4logowearables.com//CDD36BB771654D5EB36ED73F301BA619.asp?pcs_key=584ACE1B9D0F496D90DABF38099DBA74 I wasn't able to attend the North & South American meeting this past Monday, so thought I'd send to the list here for further discussion/decisioning. Let me know if you'd prefer to take this to the next regional Ambassadors meeting instead, and we can certainly do that. Thanks, - pascal Fedora Ambassador, Indiana, USA http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PascalCalarco -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Quote for Fedora Polos Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 13:47:52 -0400 From: Screen Printed Products To: Pascal Vincent Calarco Pascal: Here's the quote for the polo's: One time charge for artwork for embroidery logo: 50.00 The following prices are for sizes small thru x-large. Please add 2.00 for 2x-large, 3.00 for 3x-large D100 Devon & Jones Pima Pique Knit in French Blue: 10 polo's- 22.20/ea 30 polo's-20.55/ea 50 polo's-18.70/ea 100 polo's-17.35/ea 150 polo's-16.80/ea 6091 Outerbanks Egyptian Diamond Knit in Royal Blue: 10 polo's-22.50/ea 30 polo's-20.85/ea 50 polo's-18.95/ea 100 polo's-17.60/ea 150 polo's-17.05/ea These two colors were the closest we could come to Fedora Blue. Please go to our website (screenprintedproducts.com) to actually see the above colors. Let us know if you have any questions (419) 352-1535 Lori Screen Printed Products From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Thu May 8 18:10:14 2008 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 20:10:14 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questione In-Reply-To: <39773.82.210.244.127.1210235667.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> <39773.82.210.244.127.1210235667.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <1210270214.3632.22.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Thanks everybody for his replies, a special thanks to Jeroen for his elaborate answer and his thoughts. Am Donnerstag, den 08.05.2008, 10:34 +0200 schrieb Gerold: > Just ONE small(er) answer because I'm on work and have not the time to > respond detailled ... > > IT IS NOT MANDATORY TO BE MEMEBER OF FEDORA EMEA e.V. AND IT IS NOT PART > OF THE AMBASSADORS PROJECT! > > If you want to discuss, we can do it here BUT the NPO once again is not > MANDATORY ... > > > The NPO starts out of the Ambassador Project and at the moment MOST > members are also Fedora Ambassador but YOU DON'T NEED TO JOIN! Gerold, I still see this different and Max's and Jerome's replies seem to support my point of view: As Max wrote RH wants/needs the NPO because they need a legal entity they can hand money over [1]. So the money given by RH is raised money of the EMEA e.v. And as Jeroen wrote only members of the NPO are allowed to vote EMEA issues [2]. So in the end the possibility to participate and to make decisions is becoming smaller for non-NPO-members than it is now for the ambassadors. > More detailled (I hope) later > > Regards > > Gerold Regards, Christoph [1] Quoting May from his reply: "The reason why the Fedora EMEA "non-profit organization" is important is because it is a "legal entity" that makes it possible for Red Hat to transfer a large chunk of budget (say, several thousand dollars) directly to that organization, and know that the money is being accounted for properly, and being spent on promoting Fedora and community." [2] Quoting from Jeroen's reply: "When it comes down to voting on anything however, one is required to be a member -which is a legal requirement in any country we could have founded the NPO, not our own policy." From Rau_A at web.de Thu May 8 21:08:19 2008 From: Rau_A at web.de (Andreas Rau) Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 23:08:19 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] OpenExpo 2008 Zurich/Winterthur In-Reply-To: <4823353E.4090808@fedoraproject.org> References: <4823353E.4090808@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1210280899.4841.2.camel@alluminium> Hi there, tomorrow I will find out if I can get some holiday for this event.. I will attand if the answere is yes. cheers, AndreasR Am Donnerstag, den 08.05.2008, 19:15 +0200 schrieb Fabian Affolter: > Hi all, > > Some days ago I registered the Fedora Project for a participation at the > OpenExpo 2008 [1] at Winterthur (near Zurich / Switzerland). This > event is far away in the future for the moment but I think to start > early is always a good idea :-) > > This things are fix: > - Wednesday, September 24th and Thursday, September 25th, 2008 > - Eulachhallen, Winterthur (20 min by train from Zurich, even less > from Zurich's Airport), Switzerland > > This things are variable for now: > - Attendees aka Booth personal > - Accommodation > - Booth program > > I would like to invite all Swiss Fedora contributors (translators, > ambassadors (the Swiss and the German ones), packager, and other helping > hands) to join us there. > If you would like to help at this event add yourself to this page [2]. > > Kind regards, > > Fabian > > [1] http://openexpo.ch/ > [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/OpenExpo/OpenExpo2008_Zurich > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri May 9 08:21:11 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 13:51:11 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Let me introduce myself In-Reply-To: <6dd1343e0805070912n39cc6850xb08512df74ee6a27@mail.gmail.com> References: <6dd1343e0805070224u33604818k7310875bfd1416f0@mail.gmail.com> <482177F2.9080800@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805070302n226442a9v5b746ee72f33a63f@mail.gmail.com> <482180E3.6040608@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805070333s3d50b7bej4078355800c131aa@mail.gmail.com> <48219320.4080208@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805070912n39cc6850xb08512df74ee6a27@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48240977.90006@fedoraproject.org> "G" wrote: > > Thanks a lot for the information and i have started talking to the > company regarding the mirror setup. They were quite curious to know > the benefits they would get in setting up a mirror (public/private) . > Some sort of advertisements for the company somewhere in the website > and a name mention in the web site ? > > I would keep you posted on this front . If the company becomes a sponsor, they get credited in http://fedoraproject.org/sponsors. They can talk to the infrastructure team for specific details. Becoming a private mirror allows everybody within the organization to be transparently redirected to a local mirror. If you have many users within the organization using Fedora and updating it regularly, you don't have to waste company bandwidth and time reaching out to public mirrors. Rahul From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Fri May 9 10:03:40 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 12:03:40 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] LugRadio Live USA? In-Reply-To: <1206391195.3083.57.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20080316012908.GA3026@domsch.com> <1206391195.3083.57.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <64b14b300805090303i74539121y8da14e86094c0694@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote: > On Sat, 2008-03-15 at 19:29 -0600, Matt Domsch wrote: >> Is anyone planning on attending LugRadio Live USA in San Francisco, >> April 12-13? > > I can't attend, due to FISL. > > ~spot Did Fedora have a presence at this event? -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Fri May 9 10:08:25 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 12:08:25 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Polo Shirts Message-ID: <64b14b300805090308x70ad74f8p7690a17a81187e29@mail.gmail.com> Sorry it this was asked before but I'm in between moving to I'm rarely looking at any email. Soon I'll be back. So how do I get hold of Fedora Polo and other shirts? How do I send money and to whom? I live in Croatia (Europe). Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Fri May 9 10:35:14 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 12:35:14 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linux Fest Northwest In-Reply-To: <1209677484.29415.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1209677484.29415.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <64b14b300805090335u1b4dae79v9c1db0849e5c6c7f@mail.gmail.com> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=445833 Your videos form ustream.com aren't playable with swfdec :( Any chance of uploading to fedoratv.com ? Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Fri May 9 10:45:45 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 12:45:45 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linux Fest Northwest In-Reply-To: <64b14b300805090335u1b4dae79v9c1db0849e5c6c7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1209677484.29415.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <64b14b300805090335u1b4dae79v9c1db0849e5c6c7f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <64b14b300805090345i5eae6b8arecb8fd953610fd3b@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=445833 > > Your videos form ustream.com aren't playable with swfdec :( > Any chance of uploading to fedoratv.com ? > > Cheers, > Valent. > -- > http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ > linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless > registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. > ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic > don't like proprietary flash? Then try swfdec! To install swfdec you need to enable livna repository: http://fedoraguide.info/index.php/Fedora8#Livna then do this: yum remove flash-plugin (if needed) yum install swfdec-mozilla gstreamer-ffmpeg -y I found these two bugs emmediatly: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=445828 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=445827 Please report more bugs so this project gets better faster! I love swfdec Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From jkeating at redhat.com Fri May 9 12:14:36 2008 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 08:14:36 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linux Fest Northwest In-Reply-To: <64b14b300805090335u1b4dae79v9c1db0849e5c6c7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1209677484.29415.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <64b14b300805090335u1b4dae79v9c1db0849e5c6c7f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1210335276.3228.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 12:35 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote: > > Your videos form ustream.com aren't playable with swfdec :( > Any chance of uploading to fedoratv.com ? I'm waiting to get the videos in .ogg format (I didn't do the original uploads) so that I can offer them via torrent.fedoraproject.org -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From irashadul at gmail.com Fri May 9 18:33:20 2008 From: irashadul at gmail.com (Rashadul Islam) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 14:33:20 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fwd: North America: Quote for Fedora Polos] In-Reply-To: <48234137.4000509@nd.edu> References: <48234137.4000509@nd.edu> Message-ID: <17fa59580805091133kffafcaapde1a08989a1e009a@mail.gmail.com> Hi: I guess the polos should be in the size of 'LaCoste" Style. Everybody will love this style. Regards, Rashadul Islam Home Site: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RashadulIslam On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Pascal Vincent Calarco wrote: > Folks, I have received an initial quotation from the Fedora preferred > vendor for the North American Ambassadors polos. I asked for different > quantities to see how order sizes might affect pricing. Here is more > information on the styles: > > *Style Number:*D100 Devon & Jones Pima Pique Knit in French Blue > *Style Description:* 100% Peruvian Pima Cotton. Additional yarn in collar > and cuffs for a neater appearance and greater durability; stretch tape in > shoulders for extra strength; three-button placket, Dura-pearl? buttons; > rib-knit cuffs; grey heather is 90% cotton, 10% polyester. > *Style Link:* > http://www.4logowearables.com//CDD36BB771654D5EB36ED73F301BA619.asp?pcs_key=F0EE20B664CF47A5ABCAE8981FB83652 > > *Style Number:*6091 Outerbanks Egyptian Diamond Knit in Royal Blue > *Style Description:* 100% Egyptian cotton, 6oz. Luxuriously soft and > durable 50/2 ply fabric; no-curl collar; dyed-to-match twill tape neck and > side vents; clean, finished three-button placket; locker patch with natural > contrast lining. > *Style Link:* > http://www.4logowearables.com//CDD36BB771654D5EB36ED73F301BA619.asp?pcs_key=584ACE1B9D0F496D90DABF38099DBA74 > > I wasn't able to attend the North & South American meeting this past > Monday, so thought I'd send to the list here for further > discussion/decisioning. Let me know if you'd prefer to take this to the next > regional Ambassadors meeting instead, and we can certainly do that. > > Thanks, > > - pascal > Fedora Ambassador, Indiana, USA > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PascalCalarco > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Quote for Fedora Polos > Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 13:47:52 -0400 > From: Screen Printed Products > To: Pascal Vincent Calarco > > > > Pascal: Here's the quote for the polo's: > One time charge for artwork for embroidery logo: 50.00 > The following prices are for sizes small thru x-large. Please add 2.00 for > 2x-large, 3.00 for 3x-large > D100 Devon & Jones Pima Pique Knit in French Blue: > 10 polo's- 22.20/ea > 30 polo's-20.55/ea > 50 polo's-18.70/ea > 100 polo's-17.35/ea > 150 polo's-16.80/ea > 6091 Outerbanks Egyptian Diamond Knit in Royal Blue: > 10 polo's-22.50/ea > 30 polo's-20.85/ea > 50 polo's-18.95/ea > 100 polo's-17.60/ea > 150 polo's-17.05/ea > These two colors were the closest we could come to Fedora Blue. Please go > to our website (screenprintedproducts.com) to actually see the above > colors. > Let us know if you have any questions (419) 352-1535 > Lori > Screen Printed Products > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tcallawa at redhat.com Fri May 9 22:53:00 2008 From: tcallawa at redhat.com (Tom "spot" Callaway) Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 18:53:00 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] LugRadio Live USA? In-Reply-To: <64b14b300805090303i74539121y8da14e86094c0694@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080316012908.GA3026@domsch.com> <1206391195.3083.57.camel@localhost.localdomain> <64b14b300805090303i74539121y8da14e86094c0694@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1210373580.4894.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 12:03 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-03-15 at 19:29 -0600, Matt Domsch wrote: > >> Is anyone planning on attending LugRadio Live USA in San Francisco, > >> April 12-13? > > > > I can't attend, due to FISL. > > > > ~spot > > Did Fedora have a presence at this event? Not to my knowledge, although, from what I hear, turnout was pretty low. ~spot From romal at fedoraproject.org Sat May 10 05:53:01 2008 From: romal at fedoraproject.org (Robert M. Albrecht) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 07:53:01 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questione In-Reply-To: <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4825383D.5070601@gmail.com> Hi, Sandro "red" Mathys schrieb: > Thank you Christoph, I already thought I'm the only guy who's thinking > something's going terribly wrong there. > > +1 on everything, especially the ?128. > > Even though I can afford that money quite easily, I really have no idea > how that helps me to save money for travels to events a.s.o. > The membership fee is astronomicaly high, thats correct. For many people or countrys is out of the question. And I think it`s the highest membership fee I ever saw. The interessting question is, what happens with this money ? If it`s well spend, it`s ok from my side. If it`s not well spend, it`s better to donate that money to the Free Software Foundation, as they are doing far more important job than promoting a single distribution. Or if you want it more direct, you could also donate the money to KDE for example. Donating the money to FSF or one of the projects would benefit the whole free software world. After all, Fedora is still some kind of outsourcing-project to reduce the cost of development for RHEL. Fedora would not survive without Redhat, unlike Debian or Gentoo. cu romal From mspevack at redhat.com Sat May 10 06:24:15 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 02:24:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] LugRadio Live USA? In-Reply-To: <1210373580.4894.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20080316012908.GA3026@domsch.com> <1206391195.3083.57.camel@localhost.localdomain> <64b14b300805090303i74539121y8da14e86094c0694@mail.gmail.com> <1210373580.4894.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: > Not to my knowledge, although, from what I hear, turnout was pretty > low. We chose to spend our North America budget on other events this past quarter. FAMSCo ultimately makes the decisions about which events Fedora participates in worldwide, with the input of the Fedora Board and Fedora Project Leader on special events that are considered particularly important, like FUDCons, LinuxTag, FISL, etc. Additionally, any Ambassadors who offers to organize Fedora's presence at an event will be able to get some amount of funding from FAMSCo, provided that it is organized with enough lead-time. Maybe things will be different in the future. I submitted a proposal to give a talk at LUG Radio Live UK, and if it is accepted, I will attend. --Max From kanarip at kanarip.com Sat May 10 11:19:11 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 13:19:11 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questione In-Reply-To: <4825383D.5070601@gmail.com> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> <4825383D.5070601@gmail.com> Message-ID: <482584AF.7090100@kanarip.com> Robert M. Albrecht wrote: > Hi, > > Sandro "red" Mathys schrieb: > > Thank you Christoph, I already thought I'm the only guy who's thinking > > something's going terribly wrong there. > > > > +1 on everything, especially the ???128. > > > > Even though I can afford that money quite easily, I really have no idea > > how that helps me to save money for travels to events a.s.o. > > > > The membership fee is astronomicaly high, thats correct. For many people > or countrys is out of the question. And I think it`s the highest > membership fee I ever saw. > > The interessting question is, what happens with this money ? > The most interesting question is, what do you think is an appropriate membership fee? Without that kind of feedback, I can only guess. Talk to me. I can't believe we're having this "discussion", while all I hear is "the membership fee is too high". Maybe it is, maybe it's not. I know there's reasons for the membership fee to be 128 EURO/year. Other people agreed with the proposal back in the day when we founded this NPO. We've had new members join since, and obviously they agree with the membership fee. They think it's important the NPO is doing the right thing for everyone out there more so then they think it's important for the NPO to do what they personally think is right. Are you just bluntly disagreeing or is this based on every possible argument you could think of? Do you know what it means to have a low fee so that everyone can afford to join, although it isn't necessary, nor required, because decisions made by the NPO and it's members is already supposed to, if not required to, follow upstream, which is you, your peers, or anyone else that does or does not join? How does one, given a low membership fee so that everyone can join, arraign a General Membership Meeting requiring a two-third majority of all votes cast (not just all attendees)? The consequences of lowering the membership fee are rather obvious, as too many members against low fees will not be able to gather on such General Members Meeting, thereby practically eliminating it's mandate. What if the membership fee is lowered to anything anyone can afford, and it's members, whom have the ultimate power, start disagreeing with the Fedora Project Board, or even FAmSCo? Do you think that's beneficial to anyone? Don't you think it is really, really important to prevent that from ever happening? Could not be one way to prevent that from ever happening, be, to say: "We are an NPO that does RAISE and SPEND money about which we decide not on our own, but follow our upstream, our peers as well as report back to them, because that's where every single contributor, our target, can vote, discuss, elect and be elected, and in order to do so, before you become a member of this NPO, you should realize that you are becoming a puppet of the community". Not the Fedora EMEA NPO, nor it's board, nor it's members, are pulling any strings. Don't forget that. You are. As it should be. Now what about that membership fee? Talk to me. I understand you are becoming a member, for which I'm very grateful. Note that this mail is not as much a reply to yours, as well as a reply to everyone expressing similar concerns. We'll talk some more at LinuxTag, in real life, and when we do, I'm sure you'll appreciate the dedication the people involved have with regards to this NPO, their passion and vision, whether a member of the NPO or not. I'm excited! Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From balajig81 at gmail.com Sat May 10 15:42:09 2008 From: balajig81 at gmail.com (G) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 21:12:09 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Let me introduce myself In-Reply-To: <48240977.90006@fedoraproject.org> References: <6dd1343e0805070224u33604818k7310875bfd1416f0@mail.gmail.com> <482177F2.9080800@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805070302n226442a9v5b746ee72f33a63f@mail.gmail.com> <482180E3.6040608@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805070333s3d50b7bej4078355800c131aa@mail.gmail.com> <48219320.4080208@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805070912n39cc6850xb08512df74ee6a27@mail.gmail.com> <48240977.90006@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <6dd1343e0805100842m5ddba74cob50918e647d92938@mail.gmail.com> > If the company becomes a sponsor, they get credited in > http://fedoraproject.org/sponsors. They can talk to the infrastructure team > for specific details. Thanks. I had a look at the same link and i am in talks with the company for setting up the mirror as well as for the sponsor (i.e for giving some funds as sponsor). Its in talks and i am following it up. I would like to know the following stuff. 1. I would like to know what could be the minimum amount that would enable the company to get their name and logo in the sponsors link if its in the form of cash Is it possible? 2.If the company is ready to buy some new hardware what should be the amount and how would the company send the fund if they agree to it . ? Please let me know I will update you on the same once i get some more info I am doing all i could for the above things to happen successfully .Hope it turns out really positive for us :) Thanks, Cheers, Balaji On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > "G" wrote: > >> >> Thanks a lot for the information and i have started talking to the >> company regarding the mirror setup. They were quite curious to know >> the benefits they would get in setting up a mirror (public/private) . >> Some sort of advertisements for the company somewhere in the website >> and a name mention in the web site ? >> >> I would keep you posted on this front . > > If the company becomes a sponsor, they get credited in > http://fedoraproject.org/sponsors. They can talk to the infrastructure team > for specific details. > > Becoming a private mirror allows everybody within the organization to be > transparently redirected to a local mirror. If you have many users within > the organization using Fedora and updating it regularly, you don't have to > waste company bandwidth and time reaching out to public mirrors. > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From mspevack at redhat.com Sat May 10 16:02:52 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 12:02:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questione In-Reply-To: <4825383D.5070601@gmail.com> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> <4825383D.5070601@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 10 May 2008, Robert M. Albrecht wrote: > Fedora would not survive without Redhat, unlike Debian or Gentoo. There was a time when this statement was true. But I don't think it is true today. Even if all Red Hat support for Fedora disappeared tomorrow (which it won't, but we're playing pretend), I believe that the infrastructure of participation that we have built up over the past few years ensures that Fedora, as an independent, fully-functional operating system, would continue to exist and thrive. I'll quote myself from an interview I did with LWN last year, after the release of Fedora 7: "Red Hat will continue to be Fedora's biggest sponsor, providing development resources, infrastructure money, bandwidth, community-budget, FUDCons, legal support, etc. However, I believe that it is ultimately the job of the Fedora Project Leader, whoever that person is, to say "what do I have to do to ensure that the Fedora Project can grow and thrive, *EVEN IF* all Red Hat support were to one day disappear"? It's a hypothetical question. But the answer is real. And the answer is the critical path of Fedora in a 2-3 year horizon." http://lwn.net/Articles/237700/ --Max From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat May 10 17:36:24 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 23:06:24 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Let me introduce myself In-Reply-To: <6dd1343e0805100842m5ddba74cob50918e647d92938@mail.gmail.com> References: <6dd1343e0805070224u33604818k7310875bfd1416f0@mail.gmail.com> <482177F2.9080800@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805070302n226442a9v5b746ee72f33a63f@mail.gmail.com> <482180E3.6040608@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805070333s3d50b7bej4078355800c131aa@mail.gmail.com> <48219320.4080208@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805070912n39cc6850xb08512df74ee6a27@mail.gmail.com> <48240977.90006@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805100842m5ddba74cob50918e647d92938@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4825DD18.3090201@fedoraproject.org> "G" wrote: >> If the company becomes a sponsor, they get credited in >> http://fedoraproject.org/sponsors. They can talk to the infrastructure team >> for specific details. > > Thanks. I had a look at the same link and i am in talks with the > company for setting up the mirror as well as for the sponsor (i.e for > giving some funds as sponsor). Its in talks and i am following it up. > I would like to know the following stuff. > > 1. I would like to know what could be the minimum amount that would > enable the company to get their name and logo in the sponsors link if > its in the form of cash Is it possible? > 2.If the company is ready to buy some new hardware what should be the > amount and how would the company send the fund if they agree to it . > ? You probably can get in touch the infrastructure lead, Mike McGrath (CC'ed) who can let you know the details. Rahul From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Sat May 10 20:32:52 2008 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 22:32:52 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questions In-Reply-To: <482584AF.7090100@kanarip.com> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> <4825383D.5070601@gmail.com> <482584AF.7090100@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Hi all, first of all I'd like to say thanks to Gerold who called me up early yesterday morning to dispel my concerns. We talked for more than a hour, in the end Gerold was late for work but he still did not manage to ally my doubts. Whenever we did not agree it came out to * "This is a theoretical case and will never happen" * "Nonsense" ("Quatsch mit So?e" for the German readers) or * "Bullshit" On the other hand I wasn't able to expose my problems to Gerold, so I'm going to outline my concerns once more, maybe somebody else will be able to meet them. Am Samstag, den 10.05.2008, 13:19 +0200 schrieb Jeroen van Meeuwen: > Robert M. Albrecht wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Sandro "red" Mathys schrieb: > > > Thank you Christoph, I already thought I'm the only guy who's thinking > > > something's going terribly wrong there. > > > > > > +1 on everything, especially the EUR 128. > > > > > > Even though I can afford that money quite easily, I really have no idea > > > how that helps me to save money for travels to events a.s.o. > > > > > > > The membership fee is astronomicaly high, thats correct. For many people > > or countrys is out of the question. And I think it`s the highest > > membership fee I ever saw. > > > > The interessting question is, what happens with this money ? > > > > The most interesting question is, what do you think is an appropriate > membership fee? Without that kind of feedback, I can only guess. Talk to me. I'm also member of another FOSS support NPO (a German "e. V." just like Fedora EMEA) and we only have a symbolic fee of 1 EUR a month there. So far we haven't had any problems with that (except for we don't have much money, but we hardly have any expenses ether). > I can't believe we're having this "discussion", while all I hear is "the > membership fee is too high". Maybe it is, maybe it's not. > > I know there's reasons for the membership fee to be 128 EURO/year. According to Gerold there were two reasons for the 128 EUR: a) "we are binary people" and 128 EUR equals 2*2*2*2*2*2*2. b) "we are having the same fee in my local LUG, too" Honestly I don't think that any of these sounds convincing. Maybe there are better reasons, but this is what Gerold told me on the phone. > Other > people agreed with the proposal back in the day when we founded this > NPO. We've had new members join since, and obviously they agree with the > membership fee. How many members from Africa or the middle east have joined and how many European members does the EMEA have in comparison? > They think it's important the NPO is doing the right > thing for everyone out there more so then they think it's important for > the NPO to do what they personally think is right. > > Are you just bluntly disagreeing or is this based on every possible > argument you could think of? Do you know what it means to have a low fee > so that everyone can afford to join, although it isn't necessary, nor > required, because decisions made by the NPO and it's members is already > supposed to, if not required to, follow upstream, which is you, your > peers, or anyone else that does or does not join? Is the EMEA e. V. really bound to our decisions? I doubt that very much. And what if ambassadors and EMEA disagree on a particular issue? Gerold argued, that this won't happen because the main goal of the EMEA e. V. is the same as the ambassador's: To promote and support Fedora. But even if we have the same goal there might be different opinions on how to achieve this goal, so I think sooner or later there might be conflicts. Imagine this: 5 ambassadors want Fedora to be on Foo-Expo. On the other hand 5 ambassadors who are also Fedora EMEA members disagree and think it is better to visit an event called Bar-Con. When it comes down to voting guess who will get financial support for their event... > How does one, given a low membership fee so that everyone can join, > arraign a General Membership Meeting requiring a two-third majority of > all votes cast (not just all attendees)? The consequences of lowering > the membership fee are rather obvious, as too many members against low > fees will not be able to gather on such General Members Meeting, thereby > practically eliminating it's mandate. I agree this might become a problem, but I think the bigger problem will be: The EMEA covers three continents, so the distance and the resulting costs are a much bigger hurdle for the attendees. Of course we could solve this problem by raising the member fee even more. Why not make it let's say a 1000 Euros, because people who can spend a thousand Euros for the NPO can also afford the travel costs the the members meeting. ;( I think right now we are morally eliminating the mandate by making the EMEA an exclusive group of wealthy people. As Gerold said the cost reduced membership is available only for pupils, students and other people "who do not work full time". This means that the ambassadors from Middle East and Africa will have to pay the full membership fee too. This should be reconsidered, because one cannot compare rich countries in Europe with countries in the Middle East or Africa. > What if the membership fee is lowered to anything anyone can afford, and > it's members, whom have the ultimate power, start disagreeing with the > Fedora Project Board, or even FAmSCo? Do you think that's beneficial to > anyone? No, but I think * agreement or disagreement is not a question of money or the number of members but a question of opinion. * making participation depend on money isn't beneficial ether. > Don't you think it is really, really important to prevent that > from ever happening? Could not be one way to prevent that from ever > happening, be, to say: > > "We are an NPO that does RAISE and SPEND money about which we decide not > on our own, but follow our upstream, our peers as well as report back to > them, because that's where every single contributor, our target, can > vote, discuss, elect and be elected, and in order to do so, before you > become a member of this NPO, you should realize that you are becoming a > puppet of the community". In your last mail you wrote that for legal requirements only members are allowed to vote, but now you say you don't decide on your own. I think only one of these two statements can be right. > Not the Fedora EMEA NPO, nor it's board, nor it's members, are pulling > any strings. Don't forget that. You are. As it should be. > > Now what about that membership fee? Talk to me. I have no idea, we can only gather suggestions and decide on them later. If it needs to be binary for me 2*2*2*2*2=32 EUR would be fine. > I understand you are becoming a member, for which I'm very grateful. > Note that this mail is not as much a reply to yours, as well as a reply > to everyone expressing similar concerns. I'm not sure if I will become a member of the NPO. I'd love to but for now I can ultimately say: I'm not going to spend 128 EUR a year for the EMEA. Why not? 1. I'm already spending a lot of time on Fedora: I'm maintaining nearly 50 packages, I'm doing artwork, going to Linux events and so on. 2. It's not that I cannot afford another 128 ?, but for me FOSS is not about money in first place but about community and working together. 3. I am already spending a lot of money for charitable purposes. 4. If I'm going to spend another 128 EUR on charity there are lots of organizations who in my eyes need the money more urgent than Fedora. > We'll talk some more at LinuxTag, in real life, and when we do, I'm sure > you'll appreciate the dedication the people involved have with regards > to this NPO, their passion and vision, whether a member of the NPO or > not. I'm excited! Me too. Looking forward to see all of you in Berlin. Christoph > Kind regards, > > Jeroen van Meeuwen > -kanarip From mspevack at redhat.com Sat May 10 21:22:27 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 17:22:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questions In-Reply-To: <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> <4825383D.5070601@gmail.com> <482584AF.7090100@kanarip.com> <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: On Sat, 10 May 2008, Christoph Wickert wrote: > 4. If I'm going to spend another 128 EUR on charity there are lots > of organizations who in my eyes need the money more urgent than > Fedora. I speak only for myself, here, but from my perspective the primary benefit of the .e.V. non-profit is that *companies* or *organizations* that want to contribute directly to Fedora, and who want to avoid the hassle of trying to give money to *Red Hat*, which is complicated when it is not for a specific product. *Our* community contributes its time, its energy, and its skills. Organizing events, maintaining packages, writing documentation, testing, etc. Those contributions are far more valuable than cash. But there are a lot of organizations or individuals that love Fedora, and that derive massive value from Fedora, who would be happy to make a cash donation if there existed a mechanism for them to do so, and that is the void that Fedora EMEA e.V. fills. As far as the MEA part of EMEA -- I fully expect and plan to build community not just in Europe, but also in the Middle East and Africa, as interesting opportunities present themselves. --Max From gerold at lugd.org Sat May 10 21:29:09 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 23:29:09 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questions In-Reply-To: <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> <4825383D.5070601@gmail.com> <482584AF.7090100@kanarip.com> <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <1210454949.29786.24.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> *aaaaarhh* Am Samstag, den 10.05.2008, 22:32 +0200 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > Hi all, > > first of all I'd like to say thanks to Gerold who called me up early > yesterday morning to dispel my concerns. We talked for more than a hour, > in the end Gerold was late for work but he still did not manage to ally > my doubts. > > I know there's reasons for the membership fee to be 128 EURO/year. > > According to Gerold there were two reasons for the 128 EUR: > a) "we are binary people" and 128 EUR equals 2*2*2*2*2*2*2. > b) "we are having the same fee in my local LUG, too" > Honestly I don't think that any of these sounds convincing. Maybe there > are better reasons, but this is what Gerold told me on the phone. ^^ THIS were my answers why the numbers are 1 2 8 and not 123 or 241 or 85 or something similar ... AND definitly NOT the reasons why the Foundation members voted for EUR 128 per year! I also explained that I like the idea to propose a "binary membership fee" - because we are a computer driven NPO - 128 is a multiple of 2 and also once again: The members of Fedora EMEA who attend the foundation meeting elected 10 vs. 0 FOR that fee! 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If I'm going to spend another 128 EUR on charity there are lots > > of organizations who in my eyes need the money more urgent than > > Fedora. > > I speak only for myself, here, but from my perspective the primary > benefit of the .e.V. non-profit is that *companies* or *organizations* > that want to contribute directly to Fedora, and who want to avoid the > hassle of trying to give money to *Red Hat*, which is complicated when > it is not for a specific product. > +1 > *Our* community contributes its time, its energy, and its skills. > Organizing events, maintaining packages, writing documentation, testing, > etc. Those contributions are far more valuable than cash. > +100 Christoph From gerold at lugd.org Sat May 10 21:40:28 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 23:40:28 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questions In-Reply-To: <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> <4825383D.5070601@gmail.com> <482584AF.7090100@kanarip.com> <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <1210455628.29786.36.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> > > Other > > people agreed with the proposal back in the day when we founded this > > NPO. We've had new members join since, and obviously they agree with the > > membership fee. ^^ OMG ... One day Christoph, we meet again (let`s say in two weeks) ... and then we discuss all your issues and your concerns in a long night and then you DON`T change my words in my mouth and DON`T interpret issues you don't know about or ask somebody before ... THIS ISSUE was not discussed in our call but I tell you why we haven`t new members "hired" right now. 1.) Fedora EMEA has founded and gave the "paperwork" to the registration court WHO register the NPO .. 2.) BEFORE THAT LEGAL ISSUE isn't done, you can`t have other members than the foundation members 3.) IN THE SAME TIME, we gave our statutes to the financial department to get the status as a "tax reducable association" Issue 2 was confirmed at 2008-04-22 Issue 3 was confirmed YESTERDAY And as you pointed clearly out, that you won't become member of that NPO, because of the membership fee; I also told you that this is no problem at all! BUT I have FOUR other people who will sign her membership at LINUXTAG 2008 in Berlin, and believe me I don't put the gun on her chest and told "membership or die" ... 4.) We did not start yet to have advertise Fedora EMEA e.V. because of 2.) and 3.) Gerold -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Let's all just calm down, and everyone should make their lists of questions, and we will sit together in a room at LinuxTag and explain everything face to face. :) --Max From gerold at lugd.org Sat May 10 21:52:46 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 23:52:46 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questions In-Reply-To: <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> <4825383D.5070601@gmail.com> <482584AF.7090100@kanarip.com> <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <1210456366.29786.48.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> > Imagine this: 5 ambassadors want Fedora to be on Foo-Expo. On the > other > hand 5 ambassadors who are also Fedora EMEA members disagree and think > it is better to visit an event called Bar-Con. When it comes down to > voting guess who will get financial support for their event... ^^ AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN YOU are creating hypothetic and illusional scenes. As more than once tryed to explain: If anybody comes and askes for support from "Fedora EMEA e.V." we will do all human possible to make it happen, - with personal support - with material - and with money IF THE ASSOCIATION HAVE IN SPARE and the board is able to help. And also again ONLY for you: If we have (RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) money, we have it from the MEMBERS of Fedora EMEA e-V- - Members who are willing to help the Ambassadors which you mentioned in your f***** examble above AND NO OTHER MONEY. And now tell me where is your SUPPORT for these five Ambassadors who're not member of Fedora EMEA e.V.! Gerold -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We talked for more than a hour, > > in the end Gerold was late for work but he still did not manage to ally > > my doubts. > > > I know there's reasons for the membership fee to be 128 EURO/year. > > > > According to Gerold there were two reasons for the 128 EUR: > > a) "we are binary people" and 128 EUR equals 2*2*2*2*2*2*2. > > b) "we are having the same fee in my local LUG, too" > > Honestly I don't think that any of these sounds convincing. Maybe there > > are better reasons, but this is what Gerold told me on the phone. > ^^ > THIS were my answers why the numbers are 1 2 8 and not 123 or 241 or 85 > or something similar ... > AND definitly NOT the reasons why the Foundation members voted for EUR > 128 per year! Sorry if I took you to literally. Also as I already told you in private I do not criticize you or your work. Please don't be offended just because you are the chair of EMEA. Thanks Maybe someone else of the people who voted for 128 EUR could explain it to me then? I'm not talking about 128 or 129 Euros now but the general height of the fee. There are several people on this list who say the fee is very high so I don't understand why this hasn't been considered by the founding members before. Christoph From gerold at lugd.org Sat May 10 22:08:38 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 00:08:38 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questions In-Reply-To: <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> <4825383D.5070601@gmail.com> <482584AF.7090100@kanarip.com> <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <1210457318.29786.64.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Because you want to read it black on white ... > Is the EMEA e. V. really bound to our decisions? I doubt that very much. > And what if ambassadors and EMEA disagree on a particular issue? Gertold > argued, that this won't happen because the main goal of the EMEA e. V. > is the same as the ambassador's: To promote and support Fedora. But even > if we have the same goal there might be different opinions on how to > achieve this goal, so I think sooner or later there might be conflicts. ^^ AS explained: Fedora EMEA e.V. is bound on the statutes they have! We are founded out from the Ambassadors project, MOST (not ALL) are Ambassadors, correct! "Fedora EMEA e.V." is by law bounded on the decissons and elections they did in member meetings BY the MEMBERS on things which BELONGS to the association nothing more, nothing else. Any comments? And so again you don`t trust the foundation members as written below: - with their personal behavior, - their (partial) signed cla (at the Fedora Project) and you also miscredit here in public with your written words on the Ambassadors Mailing List Fabian Affolter, Swiss, Ambassador AND FAmSCo VICE CHAIR Francesco Crippa, Italian, Ambassador Chitlesh Goorah, Mauritian, Ambassador Stefan Hartsuiker, Netherlands Gerold Kassube, Germany, Ambassador Jens Kuehnel, Germany Jeroen van Meeuwen, Netherlands, Ambassador Robert Scheck, Germany, Ambassador J?rg Simon, Germany, Ambassador also Francesco Ugolini, Italian, Ambassador AND FAmSCo CHAIR which are the foundation members of Fedora EMEA e.V. Thanks for your great statements Gerold -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Please take this just as a question: So far this discussion was between europeans (plus Max). The founders of EMEA are all europeans (and Chitlesh who is AFAIK still living in Europe). So the height of the fee might be decided based on european living standards? Please correct me If my conclusion was wrong. But to hear the opinion of some people who are not living in (western) europe might clear up some things. Sebastian -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From angel.fedora at gmail.com Sun May 11 02:23:15 2008 From: angel.fedora at gmail.com (Angel) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 08:23:15 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Forwarded: I love Fedora Message-ID: Hi, I got this reply from a Ubuntu mailing list. Already you got, his thinking is wrong from the start. I want to give him a strong but positive and good reply. Need all of your help, please. Thank you. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Omi Azad Date: Sun, May 11, 2008 at 4:07 AM Subject: Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] I love Fedora To: Ubuntu Bangladesh Hello There, I'm taking this conversation at the end but I must say some words. So sorry for not keeping Russell Bhai's request for the time being. We like oils and don't like to be straight. You did not ask for any help here and I neither pulled your leg nor discouraged you. May be I pulled your leg on some other place and that is why you are hiding your name. I appreciate your initiative but alas you took a wrong side this time :) . I wanted to use Linux and the first version was Red Hat 4, which I got free with some Indian IT mag. That time my brother (was a CSE student) and his friends tried to use it and after 9 days of trying they successfully brought the Kernel Desktop Environment on. It's still that painful. Let me give you a small example and then you might understand why we should forget about all the other Linux distribution and start using Ubuntu. Here in Ubuntu I wrote "apt-get install skype" from my Gnome's shell and it installed Skype and all it's KDE dependencies ( as Skype is a QT application). Now when I tried to install Skype through YUM, it says this not found that not found (for example libqt3c102-mt not found, libqt3c102 not found) so why should I keep trying and trying and trying? Can you change the system? No you are not. I did not attack you, I just wanted to tell you Red Hat's ultimate goal is to make money, so they will not change anything, our options are not closed yet. We have BOSS distributions like Debian and Ubuntu, so why bother to keep trying Fedora. :) Hope you get the message. If you want to stick with Fedora, you are absolutely welcome. None of us here have any problem. What I mentioned above is only my personal opinion and not a part of any survey. But I feel that is the major reason people don't like to use that OS as a primary daily life computing OS. One more thing, we really feel disturbed when we spend huge time on finding solution and make the solution to public. Make that as simple as my kid can understand. But people don't go through the solution and ask nonsense questions. I honestly feel disturbed then. Thanks for the understanding Omi -- Angel GPG key: 0xC4639705 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AshiqurRahman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From juankprada at gmail.com Sun May 11 04:53:28 2008 From: juankprada at gmail.com (Juan Camilo Prada) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 23:53:28 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Forwarded: I love Fedora In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1210481608.10268.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 08:23 +0600, Angel wrote: > Hi, > I got this reply from a Ubuntu mailing list. Already you got, his > thinking is wrong from the start. I want to give him a strong but > positive and good reply. Need all of your help, please. Thank you. > > You might start talking about the differences between Red Hat and Fedora (aparently this guy doesnt know). Once the difference is set, try explaining our philosophy about proprietary software and why he wont find any skype in our repos, and that it is not a YUM issue as it works as well as apt (personally i like yum more than apt). Now you might probably tell them about some other repositories that might fullfill his needs (livna?... im not sure about that though). Then just invite him to try again and not to reject fedora because a bad experience in the past. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Omi Azad > Date: Sun, May 11, 2008 at 4:07 AM > Subject: Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] I love Fedora > To: Ubuntu Bangladesh > > > Hello There, > I'm taking this conversation at the end but I must say some words. So > sorry for not keeping Russell Bhai's request for the time being. > > We like oils and don't like to be straight. You did not ask for any > help here and I neither pulled your leg nor discouraged you. May be I > pulled your leg on some other place and that is why you are hiding > your name. > > I appreciate your initiative but alas you took a wrong side this > time :) . I wanted to use Linux and the first version was Red Hat 4, > which I got free with some Indian IT mag. That time my brother (was a > CSE student) and his friends tried to use it and after 9 days of > trying they successfully brought the Kernel Desktop Environment on. > > It's still that painful. Let me give you a small example and then you > might understand why we should forget about all the other Linux > distribution and start using Ubuntu. Here in Ubuntu I wrote "apt-get > install skype" from my Gnome's shell and it installed Skype and all > it's KDE dependencies (as Skype is a QT application). Now when I tried > to install Skype through YUM, it says this not found that not found > (for example libqt3c102-mt not found, libqt3c102 not found) so why > should I keep trying and trying and trying? > > Can you change the system? No you are not. I did not attack you, I > just wanted to tell you Red Hat's ultimate goal is to make money, so > they will not change anything, our options are not closed yet. We have > BOSS distributions like Debian and Ubuntu, so why bother to keep > trying Fedora. :) > > Hope you get the message. If you want to stick with Fedora, you are > absolutely welcome. None of us here have any problem. What I mentioned > above is only my personal opinion and not a part of any survey. But I > feel that is the major reason people don't like to use that OS as a > primary daily life computing OS. > > One more thing, we really feel disturbed when we spend huge time on > finding solution and make the solution to public. Make that as simple > as my kid can understand. But people don't go through the solution and > ask nonsense questions. I honestly feel disturbed then. > > Thanks for the understanding > Omi > > > > > > > -- > Angel > GPG key: 0xC4639705 > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AshiqurRahman > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From aks at fedoraproject.org Sun May 11 05:00:57 2008 From: aks at fedoraproject.org (Abhishek Singh) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 10:45:57 +0545 Subject: [Ambassadors] Regarding Fedora 9 Press Release Message-ID: <73396bd30805102200x1fa15d3u470b4a7fe5a263ce@mail.gmail.com> Dear All, I've been searching for the draft of Fedora 9 Press Release/ so that I could translate it and forward it to the national daily newspapers for publishing. The page ( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/PressReleases) does not contain the latest press release. So could somebody send me a link to the draft/final version of press release so that I could go on with the translation job. Thankyou -- _______________________________________ Abhishek Singh Fedora 9 is releasing on 13th May!! http://fedoraproject.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From romal at fedoraproject.org Sun May 11 07:03:48 2008 From: romal at fedoraproject.org (Robert M. Albrecht) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 09:03:48 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questione In-Reply-To: <482584AF.7090100@kanarip.com> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> <4825383D.5070601@gmail.com> <482584AF.7090100@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <48269A54.9090702@gmail.com> Hi, >> The membership fee is astronomicaly high, thats correct. For many >> people or countrys is out of the question. And I think it`s the >> highest membership fee I ever saw. > The interessting question is, what happens with this money ? > The most interesting question is, what do you think is an appropriate > membership fee? Nope. My question points into the future. If the money is will spend, the fee is ok. If the money is not well spend, it`s crap. Every for himself has to judge this after one or two years. For KDE Cebit Booth or Chaos Communication Congress in Berlin we don`t go in a hotel, we rent a flat for a week (400 Euros per week for all 10 people). Moving more people to a booth than are needed to equip the booth may be great fun, but it`s not well spend. > Are you just bluntly disagreeing or is this based on every possible > argument you could think of? I`m not disagreeing at all, I just raised a question and did not answer it. > How does one, given a low membership fee so that everyone can join, > arraign a General Membership Meeting requiring a two-third majority of > all votes cast (not just all attendees)? In Chaos Computer Club we have a statement, that membership meetings can take place via telecommunication. That`s perfectly legal. Moving people physically is not a legal requirement. cu romal From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Sun May 11 07:06:43 2008 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 09:06:43 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1830 #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20080511090643.4f2f7ecc@mrtomlinux.org> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2008-05-11 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (11 mai) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'h?sitez pas ? la modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent int?ressants. Thomas Canniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From surenkarapetyan at gmail.com Sun May 11 07:58:20 2008 From: surenkarapetyan at gmail.com (Suren Karapetyan) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 12:58:20 +0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Forwarded: I love Fedora In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4826A71C.7010208@gmail.com> Angel wrote: > Hi, > I got this reply from a Ubuntu mailing list. Already you got, his > thinking is wrong from the start. I want to give him a strong but > positive and good reply. Need all of your help, please. Thank you. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Omi Azad* > > Date: Sun, May 11, 2008 at 4:07 AM > Subject: Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] I love Fedora > To: Ubuntu Bangladesh > > > > Hello There, > I'm taking this conversation at the end but I must say some words. So > sorry for not keeping Russell Bhai's request for the time being. > > We like oils and don't like to be straight. You did not ask for any help > here and I neither pulled your leg nor discouraged you. May be I pulled > your leg on some other place and that is why you are hiding your name. > > I appreciate your initiative but alas you took a wrong side this time :) > . I wanted to use Linux and the first version was Red Hat 4, which I got > free with some Indian IT mag. That time my brother (was a CSE student) > and his friends tried to use it and after 9 days of trying they > successfully brought the Kernel Desktop Environment on. > > It's still that painful. Let me give you a small example and then you > might understand why we should forget about all the other Linux > distribution and start using Ubuntu. Here in Ubuntu I wrote "apt-get > install skype" from my Gnome's shell and it installed Skype and all it's > KDE dependencies ( as Skype is a QT application). Now when I tried to > install Skype through YUM, it says this not found that not found (for > example libqt3c102-mt not found, libqt3c102 not found) so why should I > keep trying and trying and trying? > > Can you change the system? No you are not. I did not attack you, I just > wanted to tell you Red Hat's ultimate goal is to make money, so they > will not change anything, our options are not closed yet. We have BOSS > distributions like Debian and Ubuntu, so why bother to keep trying > Fedora. :) Well, You could tell him that the strength of Linux lies in the possibility of choice. And he should get a good understanding that a size which fits all, in reality doesn't fit anyone at all (windows?). Ubuntu my be what he needs/likes and Fedora maybe what I need/like. About the money thing... You could explain him that any company's ultimate goal is to make money (RedHat, Novell, Microsoft, Google and "even" Canonical). After that you could tell him (and You would be right) that Fedora has much less to do with RedHat than Ubuntu with Canonical. So if he feels You have no chance to change the way Fedora works, than he has even less than You. > > Hope you get the message. If you want to stick with Fedora, you are > absolutely welcome. None of us here have any problem. What I mentioned > above is only my personal opinion and not a part of any survey. But I > feel that is the major reason people don't like to use that OS as a > primary daily life computing OS. > > One more thing, we really feel disturbed when we spend huge time on > finding solution and make the solution to public. Make that as simple as > my kid can understand. But people don't go through the solution and ask > nonsense questions. I honestly feel disturbed then. I don't quite understand him here. Is he telling that he feels bad when he finds a complex solution to a problem and "has to" share it? > > Thanks for the understanding > Omi > > > > > > -- > Angel > GPG key: 0xC4639705 > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AshiqurRahman > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From kanarip at kanarip.com Sun May 11 11:19:06 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 13:19:06 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questione In-Reply-To: <48269A54.9090702@gmail.com> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> <4825383D.5070601@gmail.com> <482584AF.7090100@kanarip.com> <48269A54.9090702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4826D62A.60405@kanarip.com> Robert M. Albrecht wrote: > Hi, > > >> The membership fee is astronomicaly high, thats correct. For many > >> people or countrys is out of the question. And I think it`s the > >> highest membership fee I ever saw. > > The interessting question is, what happens with this money ? > > The most interesting question is, what do you think is an appropriate > > membership fee? > > Nope. My question points into the future. If the money is will spend, > the fee is ok. If the money is not well spend, it`s crap. Every for > himself has to judge this after one or two years. > > For KDE Cebit Booth or Chaos Communication Congress in Berlin we don`t > go in a hotel, we rent a flat for a week (400 Euros per week for all 10 > people). Moving more people to a booth than are needed to equip the > booth may be great fun, but it`s not well spend. > > > Are you just bluntly disagreeing or is this based on every possible > > argument you could think of? > > I`m not disagreeing at all, I just raised a question and did not answer it. > What will happen with the money is exactly what has always happened with the money. There's just more, it's being spend more efficiently, and it's being spend by the actual party that initially commits itself to coughing up money, rather then having to await reimbursements or money transfers. You are questioning the spending of (say..) ~0.1% percentage of a budget here -the part which comes from membership fees. You are doing so based on comparison to other parties that may or may not have 1 large corporate sponsor, that was already taking care of some of the spendings before the party spending the money ever turned into an NPO, and had enabled themselves to take donations by becoming an NPO, or parties that are specifically intended to attract members. Then, you're saying you are not OK with a membership fee if the revenue from those fees isn't being spent in a way you think is appropriate, while what you should be worrying about is; previously I requested money or swag or CD/DVDs from Red Hat, is that going to change? > > How does one, given a low membership fee so that everyone can join, > > arraign a General Membership Meeting requiring a two-third majority of > > all votes cast (not just all attendees)? > > In Chaos Computer Club we have a statement, that membership meetings can > take place via telecommunication. That`s perfectly legal. Moving people > physically is not a legal requirement. > However CCC does need to have membership meetings in person for changing anything related to the organization itself, like Statutes, Board, and with meetings over telco one cannot easily use representatives authorized to submit your vote for you -because you might not be able to attend yourself. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From kanarip at kanarip.com Sun May 11 11:53:01 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 13:53:01 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questions In-Reply-To: <200805110127.45031.ml@deadbabylon.de> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1210457318.29786.64.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <200805110127.45031.ml@deadbabylon.de> Message-ID: <4826DE1D.50700@kanarip.com> Sebastian Vahl wrote: > Please take this just as a question: So far this discussion was between > europeans (plus Max). The founders of EMEA are all europeans (and Chitlesh > who is AFAIK still living in Europe). > So the height of the fee might be decided based on european living standards? We did not look at what a person would be able to spend, at all. It has never been about the number of members, or getting everyone to join us. Your involvement already serves us plenty. And besides, as we could not, and did not want to, request or require people to join, the membership fee is a donation - not a purchase of the right to chime in, because you have that already. The first proposition for a member fee was 10,24 EURO/month. Everyone agreed. I suggested it would be simpler to take 128 EURO/year, and everyone agreed. Vote passed. Imagine the membership fee would be 10 EURO/year. To transfer that money, you would have to pay at least that same amount of money. That, I think, does not give anyone the impression the money is getting where it's supposed to get. Bad idea. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From armel.kermorvant at orange.fr Sun May 11 10:45:27 2008 From: armel.kermorvant at orange.fr (Armel Kermorvant) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 12:45:27 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Fedora-fr-list] REMINDER French Meeting today 1830 #fedora-meeting In-Reply-To: <20080511090643.4f2f7ecc@mrtomlinux.org> References: <20080511090643.4f2f7ecc@mrtomlinux.org> Message-ID: <1210502727.2686.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le dimanche 11 mai 2008 ? 09:06 +0200, Thomas Canniot a ?crit : > This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and > _every_ interested people. > > 2008-05-11 / 18:30 UTC > > > IRC: freenode > #fedora-meeting > > > Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, > qui aura lieu ce dimanche (11 mai) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC > (freenode) #fedora-meeting . > > L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions > > N'h?sitez pas ? la modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent > int?ressants. > > Thomas Canniot Bonjour, desole, je ne serai pas des votres ce soir, je n ai pas de connection ADSL et oui !!! il y a encore des villes ou l ADSL n est qu un mythe. De mon cote il reste a finir les annonces, celles ci seront OK demain apres midi a mon retour de week end car il n y pas eux de retour suite a mon dernier post et je pense que cela convient a touts le monde. Fournir la semaine prochaine, mercredi, le cout de duplication pour 300 CD de F9. Je vous souhaite une bonne fin de week et pour ceux qui prennent la route, rouler avec prudence Amicalement Armel From stickster at gmail.com Sun May 11 21:13:09 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 17:13:09 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Central PA Open Source Conference In-Reply-To: <20080510203845.DEFDE7E01E4@ion.openthoughthosting.com> References: <20080510203845.DEFDE7E01E4@ion.openthoughthosting.com> Message-ID: <1210540389.5276.3.camel@victoria> Is there a US Ambassador or community member near Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, who would be interested in presenting at the Central PA Open Source Conference on October 19th? http://www.cposc.org/ I can't do this one, because I'll be at a conference the weekend before and one the weekend after. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I may be able to attend it, but I need to verify that the date for this conference doesn't conflict with my sister's wedding. Later, /B -- Brian Pepple http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BrianPepple gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From linux at elfshadow.net Mon May 12 01:22:25 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 21:22:25 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Central PA Open Source Conference In-Reply-To: <1210540389.5276.3.camel@victoria> References: <20080510203845.DEFDE7E01E4@ion.openthoughthosting.com> <1210540389.5276.3.camel@victoria> Message-ID: <10e0a9b00805111822s51c1e672k3b6134d44635d065@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/11 Paul W. Frields : > Is there a US Ambassador or community member near Harrisburg, > Pennsylvania, who would be interested in presenting at the Central PA > Open Source Conference on October 19th? > > http://www.cposc.org/ > > I can't do this one, because I'll be at a conference the weekend before > and one the weekend after. It is a little too close to Ohio Linux Fest for me to leave the family again the very next weekend, otherwise I would be interested in attending. I have added the event to the Fedora Events page [1] as an event needing an owner - just to make sure it doesn't get forgotten. ~Jeffrey [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents From stickster at gmail.com Mon May 12 12:54:14 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 12:54:14 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Central PA Open Source Conference In-Reply-To: <10e0a9b00805111822s51c1e672k3b6134d44635d065@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080510203845.DEFDE7E01E4@ion.openthoughthosting.com> <1210540389.5276.3.camel@victoria> <10e0a9b00805111822s51c1e672k3b6134d44635d065@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1210596854.2508.51.camel@victoria> On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 21:22 -0400, Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: > 2008/5/11 Paul W. Frields : > > Is there a US Ambassador or community member near Harrisburg, > > Pennsylvania, who would be interested in presenting at the Central PA > > Open Source Conference on October 19th? > > > > http://www.cposc.org/ > > > > I can't do this one, because I'll be at a conference the weekend before > > and one the weekend after. > > It is a little too close to Ohio Linux Fest for me to leave the family > again the very next weekend, otherwise I would be interested in > attending. > > I have added the event to the Fedora Events page [1] as an event > needing an owner - just to make sure it doesn't get forgotten. That's something I should have done, Jeffrey -- thank you for correcting my oversight! :-) I have the same reasons behind not being able to do this one. We can definitely use more than one attendee, so if anyone would like to back up the illustrious Mr. Pepple, that would be great. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From zackvm at zakaroo.com Mon May 12 13:06:55 2008 From: zackvm at zakaroo.com (Zack von Menchhofen) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 13:06:55 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Central PA Open Source Conference Message-ID: Hi - I am in Philadelphia PA (about an hour and a half from harrisburg). I'll help out anyway I can. Zack vm -----Original Message----- From: Paul W. Frields [mailto:stickster at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 08:54 AM To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Central PA Open Source Conference On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 21:22 -0400, Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: > 2008/5/11 Paul W. Frields : > > Is there a US Ambassador or community member near Harrisburg, > > Pennsylvania, who would be interested in presenting at the Central PA > > Open Source Conference on October 19th? > > > > http://www.cposc.org/ > > > > I can't do this one, because I'll be at a conference the weekend before > > and one the weekend after. > > It is a little too close to Ohio Linux Fest for me to leave the family > again the very next weekend, otherwise I would be interested in > attending. > > I have added the event to the Fedora Events page [1] as an event > needing an owner - just to make sure it doesn't get forgotten. That's something I should have done, Jeffrey -- thank you for correcting my oversight! :-) I have the same reasons behind not being able to do this one. We can definitely use more than one attendee, so if anyone would like to back up the illustrious Mr. Pepple, that would be great. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Mon May 12 13:24:27 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:24:27 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora Polo Shirts In-Reply-To: <64b14b300805090308x70ad74f8p7690a17a81187e29@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300805090308x70ad74f8p7690a17a81187e29@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <64b14b300805120624q38f3dd81vc27954419733763f@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > Sorry it this was asked before but I'm in between moving to I'm rarely > looking at any email. Soon I'll be back. > > So how do I get hold of Fedora Polo and other shirts? How do I send > money and to whom? I live in Croatia (Europe). > > Cheers, > Valent. Anybody? -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From gdk at redhat.com Mon May 12 13:36:03 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg DeKoenigsberg) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 09:36:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Central PA Open Source Conference In-Reply-To: <1210596854.2508.51.camel@victoria> References: <20080510203845.DEFDE7E01E4@ion.openthoughthosting.com> <1210540389.5276.3.camel@victoria> <10e0a9b00805111822s51c1e672k3b6134d44635d065@mail.gmail.com> <1210596854.2508.51.camel@victoria> Message-ID: On Mon, 12 May 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 21:22 -0400, Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: >> 2008/5/11 Paul W. Frields : >>> Is there a US Ambassador or community member near Harrisburg, >>> Pennsylvania, who would be interested in presenting at the Central PA >>> Open Source Conference on October 19th? >>> >>> http://www.cposc.org/ >>> >>> I can't do this one, because I'll be at a conference the weekend before >>> and one the weekend after. >> >> It is a little too close to Ohio Linux Fest for me to leave the family >> again the very next weekend, otherwise I would be interested in >> attending. >> >> I have added the event to the Fedora Events page [1] as an event >> needing an owner - just to make sure it doesn't get forgotten. > > That's something I should have done, Jeffrey -- thank you for correcting > my oversight! :-) I have the same reasons behind not being able to do > this one. > > We can definitely use more than one attendee, so if anyone would like to > back up the illustrious Mr. Pepple, that would be great. This one's mine. I met Eric Andreychuk, the organizer, a few years ago at an SELinux show in Central PA, and he emailed me asking for financial support for this event. I told him to join Fedora Ambassadors, put the event on the events page, and ask me again. And lo and behold, he has done so. :) Since Harrisburg is only an hour from my mother-in-law's place, I will be the guy for this event. Claiming it on the wiki now. --g -- Greg DeKoenigsberg Community Development Manager Red Hat, Inc. :: 1-919-754-4255 "To whomsoever much hath been given... ...from him much shall be asked" From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Mon May 12 14:04:13 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:04:13 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora Polo Shirts In-Reply-To: <64b14b300805120624q38f3dd81vc27954419733763f@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300805090308x70ad74f8p7690a17a81187e29@mail.gmail.com> <64b14b300805120624q38f3dd81vc27954419733763f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200805121604.17414.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Montag, 12. Mai 2008 15:24:27 schrieb Valent Turkovic: > > So how do I get hold of Fedora Polo and other shirts? How do I send > > money and to whom? I live in Croatia (Europe). > > Cheers, > > Valent. > > Anybody? 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URL: From gerold at lugd.org Mon May 12 14:57:49 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:57:49 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora Polo Shirts In-Reply-To: <64b14b300805120624q38f3dd81vc27954419733763f@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300805090308x70ad74f8p7690a17a81187e29@mail.gmail.com> <64b14b300805120624q38f3dd81vc27954419733763f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1210604269.3515.1.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> If you mean http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/PoloShirt the deadline is passed and we need to look when we (JoergSimon or me) is ordering the next time for which event ... maybe Prague should be a solution Regards Gerold Am Montag, den 12.05.2008, 15:24 +0200 schrieb Valent Turkovic: > On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Valent Turkovic > wrote: > > Sorry it this was asked before but I'm in between moving to I'm rarely > > looking at any email. Soon I'll be back. > > > > So how do I get hold of Fedora Polo and other shirts? 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Frields) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:06:47 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questions In-Reply-To: <4826DE1D.50700@kanarip.com> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1210457318.29786.64.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <200805110127.45031.ml@deadbabylon.de> <4826DE1D.50700@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <1210604807.2508.74.camel@victoria> On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 13:53 +0200, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Sebastian Vahl wrote: > > Please take this just as a question: So far this discussion was between > > europeans (plus Max). The founders of EMEA are all europeans (and Chitlesh > > who is AFAIK still living in Europe). > > So the height of the fee might be decided based on european living standards? > > We did not look at what a person would be able to spend, at all. It has > never been about the number of members, or getting everyone to join us. > Your involvement already serves us plenty. And besides, as we could not, > and did not want to, request or require people to join, the membership > fee is a donation - not a purchase of the right to chime in, because you > have that already. > > The first proposition for a member fee was 10,24 EURO/month. Everyone > agreed. I suggested it would be simpler to take 128 EURO/year, and > everyone agreed. Vote passed. > > Imagine the membership fee would be 10 EURO/year. To transfer that > money, you would have to pay at least that same amount of money. That, I > think, does not give anyone the impression the money is getting where > it's supposed to get. Bad idea. Here's how I see the issues thus far: * Fedora EMEA e.V. was set up to allow a group of people to sell schwag, collect charitable donations, and so forth, in support of Fedora Project activities in EMEA. * Membership in Fedora EMEA is not and should not be required for anyone, including Ambassadors, to get support from Fedora EMEA. And all the statements I've seen from Fedora EMEA support that. * Fedora EMEA operates under the Fedora name by permission of the Fedora Project and Red Hat, Inc., who own the FEDORA trademarks. * Financial accountability is required by the trademark license grant, and although the exact details of financial reporting have yet to be worked out, this will happen by the direction of the Fedora Project Board. * There are more questions still hanging, and the meeting around LinuxTag is where they should be asked and answered. The Fedora EMEA group is an exciting development which is still new, and there's no need for people to get discouraged by things like membership fees, in light of the above points. I'm looking forward to meeting with the Fedora EMEA folks in Berlin in a couple weeks when we can resolve a lot of the remaining questions and ensure that all the constituents and their needs are well represented. 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ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From angel.fedora at gmail.com Mon May 12 16:39:41 2008 From: angel.fedora at gmail.com (Angel) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 22:39:41 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Forwarded: I love Fedora In-Reply-To: <4826A71C.7010208@gmail.com> References: <4826A71C.7010208@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Thanks for your reply. It's really helped. -- Angel GPG key: 0xC4639705 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AshiqurRahman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kwade at redhat.com Mon May 12 17:00:04 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 10:00:04 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] want to write your own native language release announcement? Message-ID: <1210611604.15603.253.camel@calliope.phig.org> We did this the last few releases, and hope it works well again. This is very short notice, very sorry about that. You are encouraged to write your own original announcement, collaborating with Ambassadors and translators. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Announcements The Fedora Marketing team asks that you use the "talking points" we have written. These talking points are about parts of the Fedora 9 release we want to see attention on. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/TalkingPoints Thanks and happy release parties! - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'd love to but for > now I can ultimately say: I'm not going to spend 128 EUR a year for the > EMEA. Why not? > 1. I'm already spending a lot of time on Fedora: I'm maintaining > nearly 50 packages, I'm doing artwork, going to Linux events and > so on. > 2. It's not that I cannot afford another 128 ?, but for me FOSS is > not about money in first place but about community and working > together Working together in a Community, that is absolut the point! A Ambassador who is not present make no harm to the Project and is no Problem - Members in the NPO can slow us down - even can make us inoperative - if they not contribute regularly. We need hard working Members and not people who participate only to be in the NPO, get Travel Costs and Hotel Rooms payed. The fee is a clear statement to work in the NPO to serve the Fedoraproject. And there can not be a conflict because FESCO, FAMSCO ... - are the rulers, the NPO serve the Fedoraproject for their needs - and must Report it quarterly. It is really easy to abuse the work of much active people, without constructive suggestion for a solution. We live meritocracy, be sure if there are People who do valuable contributions and can not pay the fee we will find a Solution, maybe Sponsors for them. If you ever had really worked with the Community of Ambassadors you would know that! Happy Whitsun -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From luca at foppiano.org Mon May 12 23:06:38 2008 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 01:06:38 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] fedora 9 slide template Message-ID: <1210633598.3326.14.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> Hi all, exist a fedora 9 slide template? if yes, where is it? If not I can try to make I'm planning to make a short presentation on fedora 9 new features, to do during tomorrow's fedora 9 release party (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseParty/F9/Lodi?action=show&redirect=FedoraEvents%2FFedora9ReleasePartyLodi ) ;-) Regards Luca -- Today is Pungenday, the 60th day of Discord in the YOLD 3174 Please go away. From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon May 12 23:33:41 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 05:03:41 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] fedora 9 slide template In-Reply-To: <1210633598.3326.14.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> References: <1210633598.3326.14.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> Message-ID: <4828D3D5.7020101@fedoraproject.org> Luca Foppiano wrote: > Hi all, > exist a fedora 9 slide template? if yes, where is it? > If not I can try to make > > I'm planning to make a short presentation on fedora 9 new features, to > do during tomorrow's fedora 9 release party > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseParty/F9/Lodi?action=show&redirect=FedoraEvents%2FFedora9ReleasePartyLodi ) ;-) http://jkeating.livejournal.com/59623.html has a Fedora 9 overview. Rahul From glaksmono at fedoraproject.org Tue May 13 01:10:56 2008 From: glaksmono at fedoraproject.org (Grady Laksmono) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 18:10:56 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] fedora 9 slide template In-Reply-To: <1210633598.3326.14.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> References: <1210633598.3326.14.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> Message-ID: Yes please, I'd think it'll be really helpful to have one. - Grady On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Luca Foppiano wrote: > Hi all, > exist a fedora 9 slide template? if yes, where is it? > If not I can try to make > > I'm planning to make a short presentation on fedora 9 new features, to > do during tomorrow's fedora 9 release party > ( > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseParty/F9/Lodi?action=show&redirect=FedoraEvents%2FFedora9ReleasePartyLodi) ;-) > > Regards > Luca > > -- > Today is Pungenday, the 60th day of Discord in the YOLD 3174 > > Please go away. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here are the links. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/11/07/i-am-fedora-and-so-can-you/ 2008/5/13 Grady Laksmono : > Hi all, > I'll be hosting Los Angeles Fedora 9 Release Party next weekend on Friday, > May 23, 2008, I'm just wondering on how do you setup the USB Creation > Station? Is there instructional materials for this? > > Thanks, > Grady Laksmono > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseParty/F9/LA > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Angel GPG key: 0xC4639705 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AshiqurRahman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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John From nayyares at gmail.com Tue May 13 06:27:07 2008 From: nayyares at gmail.com (Nayyar Ahmad) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 08:27:07 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Croatian Fedora 9 launch party In-Reply-To: <64b14b300805120819t389ec189tea41dc4c08908f98@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300805120819t389ec189tea41dc4c08908f98@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8e1ee2a30805122327x65a3a3d5ye707b756c3bd2a82@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > Hi, > here is the link to my blog entry for Fedora 9 launch party in Croatia: > > http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/index.php/archives/fedora-9-launch-party-i-radionica/ > ^^ Oops i can't read ! > We intend to do the following: > - make 30 minute presentation of new and most interesting Fedora 9 > features > - hand out Fedora 9 Live CDs > - hand out Fedora stickers for laptops > - make live-usb sticks for people that show up with sticks (in the > text they are encouraged to come with their usb stick in pocket) > - install Fedora 9 on laptops and desktops that people bring to this event Although from about points it looks pretty organized, still for Fedora 9 new features i would recommend to get points from JesseKeating's video/slides --> http://jkeating.livejournal.com/59623.html Cheers > > Cheers, > Valent - Croatian Ambassador. > > -- > http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ > linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless > registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. > ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Nayyar Ahmad RHCE (ID:804006858622745) Skype: nayyares Blog: nayyares.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From kwade at redhat.com Tue May 13 07:01:24 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 00:01:24 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Croatian Fedora 9 launch party In-Reply-To: <8e1ee2a30805122327x65a3a3d5ye707b756c3bd2a82@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300805120819t389ec189tea41dc4c08908f98@mail.gmail.com> <8e1ee2a30805122327x65a3a3d5ye707b756c3bd2a82@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1210662084.15603.387.camel@calliope.phig.org> On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 08:27 +0200, Nayyar Ahmad wrote: > > Although from about points it looks pretty organized, still for Fedora > 9 new features i would recommend to get points from JesseKeating's > video/slides --> http://jkeating.livejournal.com/59623.html Also useful: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/TalkingPoints -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. 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The page > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/PressReleases) does not > contain the latest press release. So could somebody send me a link to > the draft/final version of press release so that I could go on with > the translation job. Sorry, there never really was a formal press release for translation. There is a method for writing your own directly in your language: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Announcements -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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A beer (0.6l) costs about > ?0.6 and most people can't even afford to drink a single beer every day > (soft drinks are not way cheaper). Can you imagine what it'd meant to > spend ?128 for them? And yes, they might be future ambassadors. I've > visited some computer schools there and they're doing a good job. > They're using Windows and not Linux yet, but maybe that's going to > change some day - as soon as it's no longer accepted that they're using > illegal licenses for example. > > Well, my $.02 > > -- red > > > Christoph Wickert wrote: > > Am Dienstag, den 06.05.2008, 22:56 +0200 schrieb Gerold Kassube: > >> Hi all together for the second, > >> > >> because I forgot and some are asking for; there is only a german bank > >> account possible (if we have elected a new Treasurer) and the > >> membership fee is EUR 128,-/year for Full membership. This amount can > >> be payed at Linuxtag in person (because of high transfer costs from > >> foreign countrys) ... > > > > AFAIR the Fedora EMEA NPO was founded to make it easier for us TO RAISE > > money for Fedora and not TO SPEND it. Or did I get something > > completely wrong here? > > > > IMHO 128 ? is way to much especially for those of us who are not from > > the wealthy countries of Europe. I think once again the European > > Ambassadors/Founding members of EMEA did not take the situation of all > > ambassadors into account. Remember, the letters "ME" in EMEA mean > > "Middle East" and "A" is for Africa. Has anybody really thought about > > the people there? > > > > Could someone also please point out what the difference between the > > different membership grades is (full membership, family membership and > > so on)? According to the declaration of accession to Fedora EMEA the > > cost-reduced membership requires "a confirmation accepted in the Federal > > Republic of Germany." What does that mean? > > > > Next question: What do I get for my membership? If I read J?rg Simons > > mail of March 24th 2008 correctly, members are getting a "one-off and > > exclusive" welcome present, whatever this means. Must be a hell of a > > present though... ;) > > > > Also EMEA members are allowed to vote what to do the raised money. Of > > course > > understand this but I'm afraid we are going to divide the ambassadors > > program into first and second class ambassadors: Those who (can afford > > to) pay and therefore have more rights and those who don't. > > > > Sorry, but this scares me off > > Christoph Hi, Fedora EMEA is a resources bridge and a tool that allow people around EMEA to work together without any limitation. I think to understand the reason of this fee we have to go right back, starting with the first FAD: there we understood that we need a unified EMEA infrastructure that could provide reasonable tools to spread the fedora voice, it couldn't be possible to work and to join big/medium/small events without a local management that could provide fastly monetary and physically resources without waiting the long and impossible times that we had before. Fedora EMEA is a no-profit organization, it doesn't produce real profits, it could live with the founds that came from sponsors (there aren't a lot of those ones) and members. Tell me if 10? could be a reasonable fee: the maximum money we could rise with 100 members would be 1000: i can assure this money couldn't cover the expense of a medium event with 3 ambassadors (with the connected costs), 100 CDs and a bunch of tshirts. Fedora EMEA membership is not a requrement to ask for resources and help, Fedora EMEA want to be a hand for fedora contrbutors and its membership is another way to contribute to help EMEA people spread fedora. I think many people understand this and, personally, i could see it at FOSDEM and probably you will see it in the next LinuxTAG. If you want to contribute to this Organization you could do this, if you won't, don't worry, nothing will happen. As Gerold says Fedora EMEA is not part of ambassador project: if you will need resources you could ask, without any problems, one of the aim of fedora EMEA is this. I haven't the link but i encourage everyone to read the "Fedora EMEA statute", you will find all the reason behind Fedora EMEA and a reason for such fee. Regards Francesco Ugolini From gerold at lugd.org Tue May 13 14:48:36 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 16:48:36 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Linuxtag 2008 in Berlin / eTickets Message-ID: <4079.217.162.12.42.1210690116.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Hi there around the world, I got the first eTickets which I want to share with you. Not everybody can have one, but first come, first serve ... Please write me an E-mail if you want to attend ... Regards Gerold PS.: Berlin, 2008-05-28 - 2008-05-31 From peter at reuschlein.de Tue May 13 14:50:00 2008 From: peter at reuschlein.de (Peter Reuschlein) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 16:50:00 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linuxtag 2008 in Berlin / eTickets In-Reply-To: <4079.217.162.12.42.1210690116.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <4079.217.162.12.42.1210690116.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <4829AA98.7040206@reuschlein.de> Was ist bitte sch?n ein ETicket? Und f?r was kann ich das brauchen? ;) gru? peter Gerold schrieb: > Hi there around the world, > > I got the first eTickets which I want to share with you. Not everybody can > have one, but first come, first serve ... > > Please write me an E-mail if you want to attend ... > > Regards > > Gerold > > > PS.: Berlin, 2008-05-28 - 2008-05-31 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Albrecht) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 19:58:40 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag 2008 Message-ID: <4829D6D0.2070200@gmail.com> Hi, I have a free 4 day ticket to give away. If someone is interessted, I need an email-address to transfer the ticket. cu romal From oliver at linux-kernel.at Tue May 13 18:38:51 2008 From: oliver at linux-kernel.at (Oliver Falk) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 20:38:51 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linuxtag 2008 in Berlin / eTickets In-Reply-To: <4079.217.162.12.42.1210690116.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <4079.217.162.12.42.1210690116.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <4829E03B.2000409@linux-kernel.at> Gerold schrieb: > Hi there around the world, > > I got the first eTickets which I want to share with you. Not everybody can > have one, but first come, first serve ... > > Please write me an E-mail if you want to attend ... > > Regards > > Gerold > > > PS.: Berlin, 2008-05-28 - 2008-05-31 I have 2 tickets for giveaway. Who wants? Write me an email! -of From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Tue May 13 18:41:18 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 20:41:18 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Best choice for DVD CD 9 give away Message-ID: <200805132041.23121.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Hello Fellows, There is a question, RH-Germany will produce and sponsor F9 Media for us in Europe. What F9 DVD/CD we want to have. I talked with some of you via IRC but i will take the chance to hear your voices in that matter. Please give me a answer in the next two days, because i must prepare the MediaArt for the German Agency. cu -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. 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I talked with some of you via IRC but > i will take the chance to hear your voices in that matter. > Please give me a answer in the next two days, because i must prepare the > MediaArt for the German Agency. > > cu > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Gerold Kassube -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Take a look at http://smolts.org/static/stats/stats.html Rahul From baris at teamforce.name.tr Tue May 13 19:11:29 2008 From: baris at teamforce.name.tr (Baris Cicek) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 22:11:29 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Best choice for DVD CD 9 give away In-Reply-To: <1210705359.11830.5.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> References: <200805132041.23121.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1210705359.11830.5.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: <1210705890.18315.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 21:02 +0200, Gerold Kassube wrote: > 500 x i386 > 250 x X84 > 250 x PPC > > from my perspective and the look in the past ... Really there need that much PPC copies? Macs with PPC is fading away and newer Macs are already x86_64. According to smolt statistics[1] PPC consists only 0.4 % of the total installations. If we bases smolt statistics as decision basis it should be: 750 x i386 250 x x86_64 Though I think x86_64 architecture should have more media. Regards, Baris Cicek TR - ANKARA Ambassador [1] http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/static/stats/stats.html > > Regards > > gerold > > > Am Dienstag, den 13.05.2008, 20:41 +0200 schrieb JoergSimon: > > Hello Fellows, > > > > There is a question, RH-Germany will produce and sponsor F9 Media for us in > > Europe. What F9 DVD/CD we want to have. I talked with some of you via IRC but > > i will take the chance to hear your voices in that matter. > > Please give me a answer in the next two days, because i must prepare the > > MediaArt for the German Agency. > > > > cu > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From fab at fedoraproject.org Tue May 13 20:07:17 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 22:07:17 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER: EMEA Ambassador Meeting this Wednesday ! Message-ID: <4829F4F5.3050707@fedoraproject.org> REMINDER: EMEA Ambassador Meeting this Wednesday ! Ladies and gentlemen, Don't you remember there is an EMEA Ambassador meeting next Wednesday (Europe, the Middle East, and Africa) on #fedora-meeting ? Day : Wednesday, May 14, 2008 Time : 20:00 UTC (check http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=14&month=05&year=2008&hour=20&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 to know your own time depending on your countries) Channel : #fedora-meeting Meeting agenda (add your topic before the meeting please) : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-05-14 Update your agendas, and don't forget to join us. Kind regards, Fabian From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Tue May 13 20:51:52 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 22:51:52 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] poster for Fedora Live USB Creation Station? Message-ID: <64b14b300805131351o1c9710asf68b29da4b106fc5@mail.gmail.com> Hi, does anybody have the graphics files that are visible in this blog: http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa/2008/04/20/liberamente/ exactly this image: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3196/2427656500_37f696733b.jpg Does anybody have this image edited for Fedora 9 or does anybody have for Fedora 8 so I edit them for Fedora 9? Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Tue May 13 22:04:51 2008 From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 04:04:51 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Bangladesh Fedora 9 Release Party Message-ID: Dear all, I'm copy pasting the "announcement" we made to various lists" You can also visit Ankur wiki page: http://tinyurl.com/665ofg ======================== Dear Friends, Fedora 9 (Sulphur) is now available - http://get.fedoraproject.org/. It's our great pleasure to inform you that we, Ankur Bangladeshis going to arrange first ever Operating System Release party in Bangladesh on this occassion. The party is going to be a great fun included with "Live USB stick making station (min 1GB)", "Free Fedora 9 DVD distribution", snacks and of course talk on New features of Fedora 9. You are all Invited to the party, come along with your friends. - To get free DVD please register yourself : * http://tinyurl.com/5srpmt *; we have limited number of DVDs, those will be given away on first come first serve basis. - Bring 1GB USB drive to have Live USB Fedora 9 - Interested persons who want to deliver small talks or share their experience / tips-n-tricks on Fedora, can email us feedback at ankur.org.bd, to enlist their names. *Date:* Friday, May 16, 2008. *Time: *5:00 pm *Venue: *FREPD Auditorium, Palashi Crossing, Dhaka University Campus. *Location: *FREPD is just opposite of BUET Kacha bazar. more details: 1. Fedoraproject wiki: *http://tinyurl.com/6pnuxk* 2. Facebook event: *http://tinyurl.com/6j32dt *(login needed) *Fedora 9 (Sulfur) key features: * Fedora has always been a place where new technologies can be found and worked with. Fedora 9 is no exception. Some major enhancements in Fedora 9 include: - PackageKit - A new graphical interface for package management. - KDE 4 - Firefox 3 - OpenJDK6 - Encrypted root filesystem support - Preupgrade abilities from Fedora 8 - Persistent Live USB support - FreeIPA for identity management - Upstart - EXT4 support See you at the party... Regards Mahay Alam Khan Fedora Ambassador - Bangladesh. GS - Ankur Bangladesh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gvarisco at redhat.com Tue May 13 23:01:00 2008 From: gvarisco at redhat.com (Gianluca Varisco) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 01:01:00 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] poster for Fedora Live USB Creation Station? In-Reply-To: <64b14b300805131351o1c9710asf68b29da4b106fc5@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300805131351o1c9710asf68b29da4b106fc5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <482A1DAC.5070202@redhat.com> Valent Turkovic wrote: > Hi, > does anybody have the graphics files that are visible in this blog: > http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa/2008/04/20/liberamente/ > > exactly this image: > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3196/2427656500_37f696733b.jpg > > Does anybody have this image edited for Fedora 9 or does anybody have > for Fedora 8 so I edit them for Fedora 9? > > Cheers, > Valent. > Hi Valent, Have a look here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/LiveUsbCreator Take Care. Cheers, -- Gianluca Varisco, RHCE Intern - Web Engineering, Red Hat Italia Tel.: +39 02 5681 4487 Fax : +39 02 669 3111 Cel.: +39 333 574 0934 Address/Indirizzo: Via Antonio Da Recanate 1 20124 Milano From glaksmono at fedoraproject.org Wed May 14 06:11:13 2008 From: glaksmono at fedoraproject.org (Grady Laksmono) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 23:11:13 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassador Polo Shirt Message-ID: Hi all, Where can I order one of this? I have a left over money from the budget in which I could use to get one of this, but do you guys think that it's possible to get it before Friday, May 23, 2008? I really think that it would look nice if I could wear it during the Los Angeles Fedora 9 Release Party. Thanks, Grady Laksmono http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseParty/F9/LA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Otherwise we can try like this: You're the contact for us (who'll order), collect the quality and quantity you need in your area, finance the order in front (incl. freight and custom), transfer the money by wire and we take care here that you'll get what you want and you're the man who split one delivery to the US. This can maybe be handles by "Fedora EMEA e.V." (one of the advantages the association will have sounds this good for you? regards Gerold Sorry for no better answer :-( [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/PoloShirt From glaksmono at fedoraproject.org Wed May 14 06:42:08 2008 From: glaksmono at fedoraproject.org (Grady Laksmono) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 23:42:08 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassador Polo Shirt In-Reply-To: <4866.217.162.12.42.1210747191.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <4866.217.162.12.42.1210747191.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: :( it's not even available in the U.S? - Grady On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Gerold wrote: > > Hi all, > > Where can I order one of this? I have a left over money from the budget > in > > which I could use to get one of this, but do you guys think that it's > > possible to get it before Friday, May 23, 2008? I really think that it > > would > > look nice if I could wear it during the Los Angeles Fedora 9 Release > > Party. > ^^ > Hi Grady, > > unfortunately *NOT* because if you read the Wiki [1], the deadline is > passed for the last order we (in Europe) placed a few weeks ago. > Maybe we to order again for the next FUDCon in Prague in Q3. Otherwise we > can try like this: You're the contact for us (who'll order), collect the > quality and quantity you need in your area, finance the order in front > (incl. freight and custom), transfer the money by wire and we take care > here that you'll get what you want and you're the man who split one > delivery to the US. This can maybe be handles by "Fedora EMEA e.V." (one > of the advantages the association will have > > sounds this good for you? > > regards > > Gerold > > > Sorry for no better answer :-( > > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/PoloShirt > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Wed May 14 07:25:30 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 09:25:30 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: poster for Fedora Live USB Creation Station? In-Reply-To: <671a617b0805131506n6352bb84o26f01cb77aa73a33@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300805131351o1c9710asf68b29da4b106fc5@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0805131506n6352bb84o26f01cb77aa73a33@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <64b14b300805140025s3103233dpd59798b0bd90657d@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/14 ryan lerch : > the PNG and the SVG can be found at this wiki page... > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/LiveUsbCreator > > there is also a Live USB poster for F9 there too... > > cheers, > ryanlerch These are great.... thanks. Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From fzied at dottn.com Wed May 14 08:22:15 2008 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 10:22:15 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] fedora 9 slide template In-Reply-To: References: <1210633598.3326.14.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> Message-ID: +1 we might copy from the already existing one and just add what would identify F9: Sulphur for example (the image) 2008/5/13 Grady Laksmono : > Yes please, I'd think it'll be really helpful to have one. > > - Grady > > > > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Luca Foppiano wrote: > > > Hi all, > > exist a fedora 9 slide template? if yes, where is it? > > If not I can try to make > > > > I'm planning to make a short presentation on fedora 9 new features, to > > do during tomorrow's fedora 9 release party > > > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseParty/F9/Lodi?action=show&redirect=FedoraEvents%2FFedora9ReleasePartyLodi > ) ;-) > > > > Regards > > Luca > > > > -- > > Today is Pungenday, the 60th day of Discord in the YOLD 3174 > > > > Please go away. > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Zied Fakhfakh Dot TN - CTO Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis Tunisia T : +216 71 886112 F : +216 71 885499 M : +216 22 535604 W : http://www.dottn.com GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C From luca at foppiano.org Wed May 14 09:18:28 2008 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:18:28 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] general purpose fedora slide template Message-ID: <1210756708.4254.73.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> Hi all, I'm looking for a general fedora slides template. Right now I found only: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Presentations?action=show&redirect=Marketing%2FSlides#head-b406b553b6493a2ec75085856639b4cecc479d11 but are too many customized to old fedora releases. IMHO a generic template may be useful and it should be something similar to fedoraproject wiki style. bye Luca -- Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 61st day of Discord in the YOLD 3174 He's just a politician trying to save both his faces... From fcrippa at byte-code.com Wed May 14 09:59:15 2008 From: fcrippa at byte-code.com (Francesco Crippa) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:59:15 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 9 Relese Party (Lodi - Italy) In-Reply-To: <1911291565.13711210759016213.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <1886517201.13731210759155911.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Hi folks! here you are a couple of links to have a report (and photos) of yesterday night (the first official Fedora 9 Release Party in Italy): http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa/2008/05/14/fedora-9-release-party-in-italy/ http://flickr.com/photos/fcrippa/sets/72157605053375767/ just a couple of words: It-was-great!!! :-) One of the best Fedora events in Italy since last year. Soon you'll see reports from all the others Italian Ambassadors! Take care Francesco -- Francesco Crippa fcrippa at byte-code.com http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa From linux at elfshadow.net Wed May 14 12:14:07 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 08:14:07 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassador Polo Shirt In-Reply-To: References: <4866.217.162.12.42.1210747191.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <10e0a9b00805140514r590b9f26r45ff44d2df6adc71@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/14 Grady Laksmono : > :( it's not even available in the U.S? That one is not. Pascal recently worked with one of the North American vendors to get pricing for production in the US. He posted his findings here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-May/msg00034.html I think we are just waiting for someone to organize a bulk purchase in the North America area so we can get the discounted pricing. Of course the person that organizes that will need coordinate getting the shirts to the people that want them. Probably would have been a good thing to get organized before FUDcon. If nothing is organized by the time Ohio Linux Fest occurs (mid-October), then I will likely organize a purchase of the polos and send announcements to the list - as I know there will be several of us at Ohio Linux Fest who will want to have polos for working the booth. Thanks, Jeffrey From linux at elfshadow.net Wed May 14 12:20:06 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 08:20:06 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 9 Relese Party (Lodi - Italy) In-Reply-To: <1886517201.13731210759155911.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <1911291565.13711210759016213.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <1886517201.13731210759155911.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <10e0a9b00805140520k2fd6948j2d8376d8d6b99597@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 5:59 AM, Francesco Crippa wrote: > Hi folks! > > here you are a couple of links to have a report (and photos) of yesterday night (the first official Fedora 9 Release Party in Italy): > > http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa/2008/05/14/fedora-9-release-party-in-italy/ > http://flickr.com/photos/fcrippa/sets/72157605053375767/ > > just a couple of words: It-was-great!!! :-) > One of the best Fedora events in Italy since last year. Excellent! Looks like a great event and good to hear you had a nice turn out! > Soon you'll see reports from all the others Italian Ambassadors! I look forward to seeing the other event reports! ~Jeffrey From gerold at lugd.org Wed May 14 12:30:49 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:30:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassador Polo Shirt In-Reply-To: <10e0a9b00805140514r590b9f26r45ff44d2df6adc71@mail.gmail.com> References: <4866.217.162.12.42.1210747191.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <10e0a9b00805140514r590b9f26r45ff44d2df6adc71@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1427.195.112.93.34.1210768249.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Hi there, as mentioned in my mail before, if YOU want to ... we can order, produce and send them to the US. But we need the money in front. One shirt costs (it's stitched) approx. EUR 25/each plus transport and custom ... If we get more than "only a bunch" (let's say at least 50 peaces) I think we'll get a better price or we try to arrange it by a private person travelling from US to Europa and back in 5 - 10 pieces / travel :-) Regards Gerold > 2008/5/14 Grady Laksmono : >> :( it's not even available in the U.S? > > That one is not. Pascal recently worked with one of the North > American vendors to get pricing for production in the US. He posted > his findings here: > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-May/msg00034.html > > I think we are just waiting for someone to organize a bulk purchase in > the North America area so we can get the discounted pricing. Of > course the person that organizes that will need coordinate getting the > shirts to the people that want them. Probably would have been a good > thing to get organized before FUDcon. > > If nothing is organized by the time Ohio Linux Fest occurs > (mid-October), then I will likely organize a purchase of the polos and > send announcements to the list - as I know there will be several of us > at Ohio Linux Fest who will want to have polos for working the booth. > > Thanks, > Jeffrey > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From aks.abhishek at gmail.com Wed May 14 12:37:31 2008 From: aks.abhishek at gmail.com (Abhishek Singh) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 18:22:31 +0545 Subject: [Ambassadors] Regarding Fedora 9 Press Release In-Reply-To: <1210662455.15603.394.camel@calliope.phig.org> References: <73396bd30805102200x1fa15d3u470b4a7fe5a263ce@mail.gmail.com> <1210662455.15603.394.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: <73396bd30805140537w314a09e7l6e2b09c145d30f0b@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Karsten, I went through the page, and created on for the local press here at Nepal. 2008/5/13 Karsten 'quaid' Wade : > > On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 10:45 +0545, Abhishek Singh wrote: > > Dear All, > > I've been searching for the draft of Fedora 9 Press > > Release/ so that I could translate it and forward it to the national > > daily newspapers for publishing. The page > > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/PressReleases) does not > > contain the latest press release. So could somebody send me a link to > > the draft/final version of press release so that I could go on with > > the translation job. > > Sorry, there never really was a formal press release for translation. > > There is a method for writing your own directly in your language: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Announcements > > -- > Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. > Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com > Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org > gpg key : AD0E0C41 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- _______________________________________ Abhishek Singh Fedora 9 is releasing on 13th May!! http://fedoraproject.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name Address e-mail Quantity of polos you'd like Sizing We can turn these around fairly quickly I'd think, plenty of time prior to Ohio Linux Fest and FUDCon. Thanks all! Best regards, - pascal Gerold wrote: > Hi there, > > as mentioned in my mail before, if YOU want to ... > we can order, produce and send them to the US. But we need the money in > front. One shirt costs (it's stitched) approx. EUR 25/each plus transport > and custom ... > If we get more than "only a bunch" (let's say at least 50 peaces) I think > we'll get a better price or we try to arrange it by a private person > travelling from US to Europa and back in 5 - 10 pieces / travel :-) > > Regards > > Gerold > > >> 2008/5/14 Grady Laksmono : >> >>> :( it's not even available in the U.S? >>> >> That one is not. Pascal recently worked with one of the North >> American vendors to get pricing for production in the US. He posted >> his findings here: >> >> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-May/msg00034.html >> >> I think we are just waiting for someone to organize a bulk purchase in >> the North America area so we can get the discounted pricing. Of >> course the person that organizes that will need coordinate getting the >> shirts to the people that want them. Probably would have been a good >> thing to get organized before FUDcon. >> >> If nothing is organized by the time Ohio Linux Fest occurs >> (mid-October), then I will likely organize a purchase of the polos and >> send announcements to the list - as I know there will be several of us >> at Ohio Linux Fest who will want to have polos for working the booth. >> >> Thanks, >> Jeffrey >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> From stickster at gmail.com Wed May 14 14:46:19 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:46:19 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Best choice for DVD CD 9 give away In-Reply-To: <1210705890.18315.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200805132041.23121.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1210705359.11830.5.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210705890.18315.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1210776379.11569.43.camel@victoria> On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 22:11 +0300, Baris Cicek wrote: > On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 21:02 +0200, Gerold Kassube wrote: > > 500 x i386 > > 250 x X84 > > 250 x PPC > > > > from my perspective and the look in the past ... > Really there need that much PPC copies? Macs with PPC is fading away and > newer Macs are already x86_64. > > According to smolt statistics[1] PPC consists only 0.4 % of the total > installations. If we bases smolt statistics as decision basis it should > be: > > 750 x i386 > 250 x x86_64 Agreed, PPC is not really something I'd recommend producing in this case. 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I will ask if the vendor can drop ship orders directly to > individuals and see how much that will cost. > > Name > Address > e-mail > Quantity of polos you'd like > Sizing > > We can turn these around fairly quickly I'd think, plenty of time prior to > Ohio Linux Fest and FUDCon. Thanks all! > > Best regards, > > - pascal > > > Gerold wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> as mentioned in my mail before, if YOU want to ... >> we can order, produce and send them to the US. But we need the money in >> front. One shirt costs (it's stitched) approx. EUR 25/each plus transport >> and custom ... >> If we get more than "only a bunch" (let's say at least 50 peaces) I think >> we'll get a better price or we try to arrange it by a private person >> travelling from US to Europa and back in 5 - 10 pieces / travel :-) >> >> Regards >> >> Gerold >> >> >> >>> 2008/5/14 Grady Laksmono : >>> >>> >>>> :( it's not even available in the U.S? >>>> >>>> >>> That one is not. Pascal recently worked with one of the North >>> American vendors to get pricing for production in the US. He posted >>> his findings here: >>> >>> >>> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-May/msg00034.html >>> >>> I think we are just waiting for someone to organize a bulk purchase in >>> the North America area so we can get the discounted pricing. Of >>> course the person that organizes that will need coordinate getting the >>> shirts to the people that want them. Probably would have been a good >>> thing to get organized before FUDcon. >>> >>> If nothing is organized by the time Ohio Linux Fest occurs >>> (mid-October), then I will likely organize a purchase of the polos and >>> send announcements to the list - as I know there will be several of us >>> at Ohio Linux Fest who will want to have polos for working the booth. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jeffrey >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >>> >> > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter at reuschlein.de Wed May 14 19:44:23 2008 From: peter at reuschlein.de (Peter Reuschlein) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 21:44:23 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Notebook / Laptop Stickers Message-ID: <482B4117.1090002@reuschlein.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello together, MarcoZiesing and i will produce some notebook / laptop stickers for the LinuxTag2008 in Berlin, for this we wanted to know if other ambassadors also want to get some as giveaways on their events. More informations and some pictures can be obtained @ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Stickers (0.03 ? / Sticker + Tax) For shipping to the LinuxTag2008 there is a deadline (19.05.2008) so let us know when your interessted. For all others i will calc the shipping costs when i know the destination and amount :) greetings Peter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIK0EXtMB2vbNrb7kRAroRAJ9c0uJWnqZWRamD3Txhmim5s//ifwCg5pDQ fvsL0Jg03KhCEAbo9IjTjOw= =G39L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Wed May 14 19:48:30 2008 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 21:48:30 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Best choice for DVD CD 9 give away In-Reply-To: <1210776379.11569.43.camel@victoria> References: <200805132041.23121.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1210705359.11830.5.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210705890.18315.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1210776379.11569.43.camel@victoria> Message-ID: <20080514214830.12e6e3d0@mrtomlinux.org> Le Wed, 14 May 2008 14:46:19 +0000, "Paul W. Frields" a ?crit : > On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 22:11 +0300, Baris Cicek wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-05-13 at 21:02 +0200, Gerold Kassube wrote: > > > 500 x i386 > > > 250 x X84 > > > 250 x PPC > > > > > > from my perspective and the look in the past ... > > Really there need that much PPC copies? Macs with PPC is fading > > away and newer Macs are already x86_64. > > > > According to smolt statistics[1] PPC consists only 0.4 % of the > > total installations. If we bases smolt statistics as decision basis > > it should be: > > > > 750 x i386 > > 250 x x86_64 > > Agreed, PPC is not really something I'd recommend producing in this > case. And I'd aim for Live CD media instead of DVD if you have to > choose. Not only can people install from them, but they can also turn > their images into Live USB without having to download many hundreds of > MB first. :-) > Couldn't the number of media be produced according to the upcoming events in Europe ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents?highlight=(events)#head-856eb4616261225a61112db1c09f2b01ceedf084-2 I was thinking of about 250-300 give away livecds for the upcoming French Install Party (22th June) and for the Rencontres Mondiales du Logiciel Libre (Worldwide FOSS Meetings) in Mont-de-Marsan in July (about 3 000 attendees each year). Is it doable that they be available before the 22nd of June (I guess this is too close a date...) :/ Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From mspevack at redhat.com Thu May 15 00:21:15 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 20:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Best choice for DVD CD 9 give away In-Reply-To: <1210776379.11569.43.camel@victoria> References: <200805132041.23121.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1210705359.11830.5.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210705890.18315.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1210776379.11569.43.camel@victoria> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 May 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Agreed, PPC is not really something I'd recommend producing in this > case. And I'd aim for Live CD media instead of DVD if you have to > choose. Not only can people install from them, but they can also turn > their images into Live USB without having to download many hundreds of > MB first. :-) Once, long ago, we produced x86_64 and ppc DVDs. We stopped, not because those architectures aren't important, but because the people who *asked for media* never wanted those. Just make as many Live CDs as possible, and a few DVDs. --Max From angel.fedora at gmail.com Thu May 15 03:48:00 2008 From: angel.fedora at gmail.com (Angel) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 09:48:00 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 9 Sulpher: First Impression Message-ID: Hi, Just released Fedora 9 Sulpher. I hope, you already downloaded and installed it. Surely, you loved it. Tell us, about your experience. How is Sulpher? what do you think about Sulpher? Thank you. -- Angel GPG key: 0xC4639705 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AshiqurRahman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From btoogood at slingshot.co.nz Thu May 15 04:11:22 2008 From: btoogood at slingshot.co.nz (brendon) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 16:11:22 +1200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 9 Sulpher: First Impression In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1210824682.31833.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> first impression is good the only thing i have found and that was the graphic installer didn't work had to install in text mode and edit the startup int file to set the runlevel to 5 but other than that all good -- Brendon Toogood Ambassador Of Fedora Project HTTP://www.fedoraproject.org Email:btoogood at fedoraproject.org for cd's and dvds From CGR at HUD.DE Thu May 15 07:08:23 2008 From: CGR at HUD.DE (GRAMS, CHRISTIAN) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 09:08:23 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] New member - Introduction Message-ID: <2BD790CBFCC5164DB1D7250B34FCA8D30D9156@s-gf-is-003.HD.HUD> Hello to all ambassadors! My name is Christian Grams and i live in Germany (Niedersachsen - Gifhorn). I work as an IT-consultant in the main area of IT-security. Furthermore I am certified (I dare to say it...) with Microsoft (MCSA/MCSE/MCT) and of course Linux certified (LPIC1/2). I am working on my RHCE/RHCT certification. Due to my experience in the it-security sector, doing audits for public sector and workshops/trainings in this area I am highly interested in this area since Linux is the main platform used for security checks / tools. As to my work as an ambassador, I do not have any expectations as of yet. I am hoping to see many of you during the LinuxTag 2008 in Berlin - which I will attend as a partner of the LPI Central Europe organization. I will definitely come by to the Fedora stand. 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I am working on > my RHCE/RHCT certification. > > Due to my experience in the it-security sector, doing audits for public > sector and workshops/trainings in this area I am highly interested in > this area since Linux is the main platform used for security checks / > tools. > > > > As to my work as an ambassador, I do not have any expectations as of > yet. I am hoping to see many of you during the LinuxTag 2008 in Berlin ? > which I will attend as a partner of the LPI Central Europe organization. > > I will definitely come by to the Fedora stand. > > > > Regards > > Christian Grams > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > H&D Training und Consulting GmbH > > August-Horch-Stra?e 2 > > 38518 Gifhorn > > > > Phone: +49 5371 - 9600 > > Mobil: +49 151 - 58254 078 > > Fax: +49 5371 - 960210 > > > > mailto:cgr at hud.de > > http://www.hud.de > > http://www.letstrainIT.de > > > > Gesch?ftsf?hrer: > > Anita H?nigsberg > > Joachim Fricke > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Wolfsburg > > Amtsgericht Braunschweig > > HRB 101 254 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Ein Unternehmen der H?nigsberg & D?vel Datentechnik GmbH > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From balajig81 at gmail.com Thu May 15 07:58:56 2008 From: balajig81 at gmail.com (G) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:28:56 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Installation options In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6dd1343e0805150058m568c5a02s58cd22b85ffa8b54@mail.gmail.com> Hi > The Ubuntu installer was started from Windoz env, and after 1st reboot it > took the normal installation procedure. > But there is no grub, windoz manage it. > > Still I didn't upgraded my F8 box with F9, so not sure F9 also available the > same feature. F9 does not have this feature. Ubuntu has got the woobi installer which is part of 8.04 and that does this job of running Ubuntu inside windows but Fedora currently does not have this feature Cheers Balaji On 5/15/08, Danishka Navin wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Recently one of my friend demonstrated the New Ubuntu (8) Installation > feature for Windoz people, who wants to switch to GNU/Linux, > as most people scared of installing GNU/Linux on there Win Box as a dual > boot. > The Ubuntu installer was started from Windoz env, and after 1st reboot it > took the normal installation procedure. > But there is no grub, windoz manage it. > > Still I didn't upgraded my F8 box with F9, so not sure F9 also available the > same feature. > > Regards, > Danishka > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > From balajig81 at gmail.com Thu May 15 08:04:24 2008 From: balajig81 at gmail.com (G) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:34:24 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Installation options In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6dd1343e0805150104p3f8ed87dl84899085b52a3e92@mail.gmail.com> Hi Santosh > are u referring to the livecd like feature, where in u first get the feel > of ubuntu and then get to install it??? He is talking about the new installer which got released in 8.04. Its the wubi installer which is part of 8.04 which allows you to install Ubuntu as an application inside windows. Cheers Balaji On 5/15/08, Santosh Kumar wrote: > hi Danishka > are u referring to the livecd like feature, where in u first get the feel > of ubuntu and then get to install it??? > > Regards > Santosh > > 2008/5/15 Danishka Navin : > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > Recently one of my friend demonstrated the New Ubuntu (8) Installation > feature for Windoz people, who wants to switch to GNU/Linux, > > as most people scared of installing GNU/Linux on there Win Box as a dual > boot. > > The Ubuntu installer was started from Windoz env, and after 1st reboot it > took the normal installation procedure. > > But there is no grub, windoz manage it. > > > > Still I didn't upgraded my F8 box with F9, so not sure F9 also available > the same feature. > > > > Regards, > > Danishka > > > > -- > > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > > > > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > From danishka at gmail.com Thu May 15 08:09:31 2008 From: danishka at gmail.com (Danishka Navin) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:39:31 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Installation options In-Reply-To: <6dd1343e0805150104p3f8ed87dl84899085b52a3e92@mail.gmail.com> References: <6dd1343e0805150104p3f8ed87dl84899085b52a3e92@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > > > On 5/15/08, Santosh Kumar wrote: > > hi Danishka > > are u referring to the livecd like feature, where in u first get the > feel > > of ubuntu and then get to install it??? No, dude Fedora also having the Live CD feature, localized spins too :) > > > > > Regards > > Santosh > > > > 2008/5/15 Danishka Navin : > > > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > Recently one of my friend demonstrated the New Ubuntu (8) Installation > > feature for Windoz people, who wants to switch to GNU/Linux, > > > as most people scared of installing GNU/Linux on there Win Box as a > dual > > boot. > > > The Ubuntu installer was started from Windoz env, and after 1st reboot > it > > took the normal installation procedure. > > > But there is no grub, windoz manage it. > > > > > > Still I didn't upgraded my F8 box with F9, so not sure F9 also > available > > the same feature. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Danishka > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > > > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com (use Sinhala Unicode fonts) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerold at lugd.org Thu May 15 08:12:56 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 10:12:56 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] New member - Introduction In-Reply-To: <2BD790CBFCC5164DB1D7250B34FCA8D30D9156@s-gf-is-003.HD.HUD> References: <2BD790CBFCC5164DB1D7250B34FCA8D30D9156@s-gf-is-003.HD.HUD> Message-ID: <2389.217.162.12.42.1210839176.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Hi Christian, as written many times before everybody wants to welcome you "on board" and we're all looking forward to have a big success with you :-) You should have received (yesterday) the eTicket for Linuxtag on behalf of mine ... The most busy workday at LinuxTag will be friday (where we'll have a FUDCon) and saturday. Hope to see you soon in person Gerold > Hello to all ambassadors! > > > > My name is Christian Grams and i live in Germany (Niedersachsen - > Gifhorn). I work as an IT-consultant in the main area of IT-security. > Furthermore I am certified (I dare to say it...) with Microsoft > (MCSA/MCSE/MCT) and of course Linux certified (LPIC1/2). I am working on > my RHCE/RHCT certification. > > Due to my experience in the it-security sector, doing audits for public > sector and workshops/trainings in this area I am highly interested in this > area since Linux is the main platform used for security checks / tools. > > > > As to my work as an ambassador, I do not have any expectations as of yet. > I am hoping to see many of you during the LinuxTag 2008 in Berlin - which > I will attend as a partner of the LPI Central Europe organization. > > I will definitely come by to the Fedora stand. > > > > Regards > > Christian Grams > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > H&D Training und Consulting GmbH > > August-Horch-Stra?e 2 > > 38518 Gifhorn > > > > Phone: +49 5371 - 9600 > > Mobil: +49 151 - 58254 078 > > Fax: +49 5371 - 960210 > > > > mailto:cgr at hud.de > > http://www.hud.de > > http://www.letstrainIT.de > > > > Gesch?ftsf?hrer: > > Anita H?nigsberg > > Joachim Fricke > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Wolfsburg > > Amtsgericht Braunschweig > > HRB 101 254 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Ein Unternehmen der H?nigsberg & D?vel Datentechnik GmbH > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From balajig81 at gmail.com Thu May 15 08:15:07 2008 From: balajig81 at gmail.com (G) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:45:07 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Installation options In-Reply-To: References: <6dd1343e0805150104p3f8ed87dl84899085b52a3e92@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6dd1343e0805150115m2e41f375l7a43bb83fff04a06@mail.gmail.com> > No, dude > Fedora also having the Live CD feature, localized spins too :) But thats only at the time you start the system you dont invoke it from windows. i guess you were asking about the installer getting invoked from windows environment . If yes then fedora does not have this as of now . More info on how Ubuntu does this http://wubi-installer.org/ Cheers Balaji On 5/15/08, Danishka Navin wrote: > > > > > > > On 5/15/08, Santosh Kumar wrote: > > > hi Danishka > > > are u referring to the livecd like feature, where in u first get the > feel > > > of ubuntu and then get to install it??? > > No, dude > Fedora also having the Live CD feature, localized spins too :) > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > Santosh > > > > > > 2008/5/15 Danishka Navin : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > > > Recently one of my friend demonstrated the New Ubuntu (8) Installation > > > feature for Windoz people, who wants to switch to GNU/Linux, > > > > as most people scared of installing GNU/Linux on there Win Box as a > dual > > > boot. > > > > The Ubuntu installer was started from Windoz env, and after 1st reboot > it > > > took the normal installation procedure. > > > > But there is no grub, windoz manage it. > > > > > > > > Still I didn't upgraded my F8 box with F9, so not sure F9 also > available > > > the same feature. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Danishka > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > > > > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > > > > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > > > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > Danishka Navin > http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com (use Sinhala Unicode > fonts) > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu May 15 09:22:51 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:52:51 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 9 Sulpher: First Impression In-Reply-To: <1210824682.31833.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1210824682.31833.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <482C00EB.7060702@fedoraproject.org> brendon wrote: > first impression is good the only thing i have found and that was the > graphic installer didn't work had to install in text mode and edit the > startup int file to set the runlevel to 5 but other than that all good Do file a bug report with the hardware details/smolt profile. Rahul From elio at tondo.it Thu May 15 10:34:55 2008 From: elio at tondo.it (Elio Tondo) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 12:34:55 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Debian Bug Leaves Private SSL/SSH Keys Guessable Message-ID: <482C11CF.8060602@tondo.it> Sorry if this is somewhat off-topic, but it's good to know that Fedora is immune from this bug... "This problem not only affects Debian, but also all its derivatives, such as Ubuntu." http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/13/1533212&from=rss From affix at FedoraProject.org Thu May 15 10:52:39 2008 From: affix at FedoraProject.org (Keiran Smith) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 11:52:39 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 9 Sulpher: First Impression In-Reply-To: <482C00EB.7060702@fedoraproject.org> References: <1210824682.31833.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <482C00EB.7060702@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: I really like this distro. Its superb. One problem is firefox 3 beta 5 its buggy with some pages On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > brendon wrote: > >> first impression is good the only thing i have found and that was the >> graphic installer didn't work had to install in text mode and edit the >> startup int file to set the runlevel to 5 but other than that all good >> > > Do file a bug report with the hardware details/smolt profile. > > Rahul > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Affix - iHack Admin - Fedora Ambasador - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Yes, but for me "community" and "working together" mean not to exclude people in advance. > A Ambassador who is not present make no harm to the Project and is no > Problem - Members in the NPO can slow us down - even can make us > inoperative - if they not contribute regularly. > We need hard working Members and not people who participate only to be in the > NPO, get Travel Costs and Hotel Rooms payed. The fee is a clear statement to > work in the NPO to serve the Fedoraproject. I agree the fee is a statement, but do you think that on the other hand not being able to pay the fee also is one? People who are not willing or able to pay the membership may still valuable and hard working contributors. > And there can not be a conflict > because FESCO, FAMSCO ... - are the rulers, the NPO serve the Fedoraproject > for their needs - and must Report it quarterly. Sorry for asking again, but my question still isn't answered: Is Fedora EMEA really bound to FESCO or FAMSCO from a judical point of view? Can someone please show me the corresponding words in the EMEA statutes? TIA. > It is really easy to abuse the work of much active people, without > constructive suggestion for a solution. Sorry if I did not point out my suggestion more clearly: Lower the member fee to enable more people to participate. Especially because the NPO is called EMEA but lacks ME and A at the moment. > We live meritocracy, be sure if there are People who do valuable contributions > and can not pay the fee we will find a Solution, maybe Sponsors for them. It's a fact that we already have this situation. Think of Kushal for example: No doubt that he is a valuable contributor and if I did not offer him a free place to sleep he would not have been able to come to Berlin at all. Two days ago he told me that he wont be able to come anyway because he did not find a sponsor. > If > you ever had really worked with the Community of Ambassadors you would know > that! You just said that I never really worked with the Ambassadors Community. Thanks a lot! Maybe I'm not the loudest person who always shouts out "Me first", but I'm doing a lot of work for the project that you won't see on this mailing list. Please tell me, did you know what I just wrote about Kushal? If the answer is "yes", then your "we will find a solution" is wrong. And if the answer is "no", you are not in the position to tell me that I don't know what's happening in the Ambassador's community. > > Happy Whitsun Best Regards, Christoph From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Thu May 15 13:09:32 2008 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 15:09:32 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questione In-Reply-To: <4826D62A.60405@kanarip.com> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> <4825383D.5070601@gmail.com> <482584AF.7090100@kanarip.com> <48269A54.9090702@gmail.com> <4826D62A.60405@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <1210856972.7295.15.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Sonntag, den 11.05.2008, 13:19 +0200 schrieb Jeroen van Meeuwen: > [...] > > You are questioning the spending of (say..) ~0.1% percentage of a budget > here -the part which comes from membership fees. If the membership fee is only ~0.1% of the NPOs budget we could easily halve it. -0.05% budget compared to -50% fee for potential members, think about it. Thanks, Christoph From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu May 15 13:15:12 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 18:45:12 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Debian Bug Leaves Private SSL/SSH Keys Guessable In-Reply-To: <482C11CF.8060602@tondo.it> References: <482C11CF.8060602@tondo.it> Message-ID: <482C3760.70209@fedoraproject.org> Elio Tondo wrote: > Sorry if this is somewhat off-topic, but it's good to know that Fedora > is immune from this bug... "This problem not only affects Debian, but > also all its derivatives, such as Ubuntu." > > http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/13/1533212&from=rss Well, not quite immune. If you have Fedora boxes that does ssh key authentication with Debian boxes, you can still be compromised. There are good discussions on how we can avoid similar problems however. Our upstream focus is generally a very good thing to mitigate such issues. Rahul From stickster at gmail.com Thu May 15 13:40:38 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 09:40:38 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 9 Sulpher: First Impression In-Reply-To: <1210852294.6072.2.camel@149-159-132-185.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu> References: <1210852294.6072.2.camel@149-159-132-185.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu> Message-ID: <1210858838.20001.38.camel@victoria> On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 07:51 -0400, Yu Feng wrote: > Everything is fine except the low quality graphics for GDM. It looks > like an over-compressed jpeg file. ?I'd rather to use a black screen as > background instead, but there is even no way to change the background > (yet). Very happy that you guys are trying out the distribution. 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Can > someone please show me the corresponding words in the EMEA statutes? > TIA. ^^ ONCE again! Fedora EMEA e.V. is NOT PART of the Ambassador project and because of that, FEDORA EMEA isn't bound to any decissions from FAmSCo or any other SCo of Fedora or on behalb of Red Hat ... and ALSO ONCE AGAIN: it is _not_ a mandatory membership for! Fedora EMEA e.V. is bounded on the votes the member make depending on the Fedora EMEA e.V. targets and audiences. Nobody needs to sign a membership with us, but we're really happy if YOU could do so. >> We live meritocracy, be sure if there are People who do valuable >> contributions >> and can not pay the fee we will find a Solution, maybe Sponsors for >> them. > > It's a fact that we already have this situation. Think of Kushal for > example: No doubt that he is a valuable contributor and if I did not > offer him a free place to sleep he would not have been able to come to > Berlin at all. Two days ago he told me that he wont be able to come > anyway because he did not find a sponsor. ^^ A sponsor for what Christoph? AS "responsible" for Linuxtag organisation I promise you, that every Ambassador who is willing to attend Linuxtag will have EXACT the same amount reserved for LinuxTag. And I decided to propose the accomodation and asked Max for it, to put these costs into the budget at least to be fair to everyone! Maybe you should pay his flight ticket from India to Europe with EUR 1000 :-) Let's show another way to be fair to everyone: RED HAT should pay every participant the EUR 1000 for travel plus Hotel (now we take a cheaper one with let's say EUR 50/day) so we have with 24 attendees right now a calculation of 24 x EUR 1000 Travel (because we're all valuable contributors) 24 x 5 nights x 50 Euro ----------------------- TOTAL == EUR 30.000,- So going ahead and take the 10 EUR from membership you are willing to spend for Fedora EMEA e.V. we have 10 members (atm) x 10 Euro/year == 100 Euro Now please have a look again, how big is the sponsorship Fedora EMEA can do ... It is really important that we discuss things on the round table maybe also in native language German ... Just my (last) 5 Cents Gerold From angel.fedora at gmail.com Thu May 15 15:34:32 2008 From: angel.fedora at gmail.com (Angel) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 21:34:32 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 9 Sulpher: First Impression In-Reply-To: <1210858838.20001.38.camel@victoria> References: <1210852294.6072.2.camel@149-159-132-185.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu> <1210858838.20001.38.camel@victoria> Message-ID: Hi, I am sorry. But the reason, I posted this topic to the these mailing lists, because, some of we are subscriber of different mailing list. But, why don't you tell us about your experience? We will be happy to hear you. :) Thanks Paul. 2008/5/15 Paul W. Frields : > > Very happy that you guys are trying out the distribution. However, you > should discuss these topics on fedora-list, and not the lists intended > for discussion of infrastructure, marketing, and translation. > Thanks! :-) > > -- > Paul W. 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URL: From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Thu May 15 18:34:26 2008 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 20:34:26 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questions In-Reply-To: <3708.217.162.12.42.1210861209.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <482584AF.7090100@kanarip.com> <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <200805121936.59198.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1210856883.7295.13.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <3708.217.162.12.42.1210861209.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <1210876466.3017.67.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Donnerstag, den 15.05.2008, 16:20 +0200 schrieb Gerold: > Hi Christop and all other, > > hopefully we don't bother you with that never ending discussion but it > seems that there is a really, really big misunderstanding between some > single persons and the Fedora EMEA e.V. which must be discussed here in > public ?Some days ago it was you who wanted to discuss all this in private, remember? ;) Maybe it actually IS a misunderstanding, but I'm not the only one who has concerns regarding the high membership fee. Others on the list ?agreed and I know there are others who also agree but don't want to say this on the list because they are afraid to get flamed by you like I was last week. > >> And there can not be a conflict > >> because FESCO, FAMSCO ... - are the rulers, the NPO serve the > >> Fedoraproject > >> for their needs - and must Report it quarterly. > > > > Sorry for asking again, but my question still isn't answered: Is Fedora > > EMEA really bound to FESCO or FAMSCO from a judical point of view? Can > > someone please show me the corresponding words in the EMEA statutes? > > TIA. > ^^ > ONCE again! > Fedora EMEA e.V. is NOT PART of the Ambassador project and because of > that, FEDORA EMEA isn't bound to any decissions from FAmSCo or any other > SCo of Fedora or on behalb of Red Hat ... This means the answer to my question is a simple "no". Why did it take so long to get this clear? So my original question is legitimate: What happens if EMEA e. V. disagrees with FAmSCo or FeSCo? Indeed, it's a hypothetical question. I'm not saying that it necessarily will happen, but in a big community of people it is very likely to happen sooner or later and we need to be prepared for the worst case. > and ALSO ONCE AGAIN: it is _not_ a mandatory membership for! It's not mandatory for being an ambassador, but it is mandatory if you want to vote on EMEA issues. The budget RH spends for all (!) ambassadors is one of these issues where only (!) members can make decisions. So the ambassadors who are also (paying) members of the EMEA have more powers than the rest of the ambassadors. I repeat: I don not say that the EMEA e. V. is evil and will abuse it's power, but there may emerge conflicts, because the resources (especially money) are limited. > Fedora EMEA e.V. is bounded on the votes the member make depending on the > Fedora EMEA e.V. targets and audiences. > > Nobody needs to sign a membership with us, but we're really happy if YOU > could do so. I'm sorry, I cannot sign THIS membership and I think I have already explained why. > >> We live meritocracy, be sure if there are People who do valuable > >> contributions > >> and can not pay the fee we will find a Solution, maybe Sponsors for > >> them. > > > > It's a fact that we already have this situation. Think of Kushal for > > example: No doubt that he is a valuable contributor and if I did not > > offer him a free place to sleep he would not have been able to come to > > Berlin at all. Two days ago he told me that he wont be able to come > > anyway because he did not find a sponsor. > ^^ > A sponsor for what Christoph? Ask Kushal please, I can only tell you what he wrote me. His exact words were: "?Sorry but can not make it this time. Couldn't arrange any sponsor." > AS "responsible" for Linuxtag organisation I promise you, that every > Ambassador who is willing to attend Linuxtag will have EXACT the same > amount reserved for LinuxTag. And I decided to propose the accomodation > and asked Max for it, to put these costs into the budget at least to be > fair to everyone! I never challenged that you are trying your best to make it possible for everyone to join. > Maybe you should pay his flight ticket from India to Europe with EUR 1000 :-) I cannot laugh about this kind of humor, because you are making jokes on people (both me and Kushal) because of their financial situation. This also is why I did not respond to your last mails. > Let's show another way to be fair to everyone: RED HAT should pay every > participant the EUR 1000 for travel plus Hotel (now we take a cheaper one > with let's say EUR 50/day) so we have with 24 attendees right now a > calculation of > > 24 x EUR 1000 Travel (because we're all valuable contributors) > 24 x 5 nights x 50 Euro > ----------------------- > TOTAL == EUR 30.000,- Please don't exaggerate: Most of the attendees are from Europe and don't have travel costs of 1000 EUR. And most of the people who are from Europe can afford to pay the travel themselves, for example I always paid my costs myself. I also wanted to cut down the costs by not staying in the hotel all the time. And guess who criticized me for that... ;) > So going ahead and take the 10 EUR from membership you are willing to > spend for Fedora EMEA e.V. we have 10 members (atm) x 10 Euro/year == 100 > Euro Excuse me: When/Where did I say that I was willing to spend only 10EUR/Year? It was Francesco who wrote that, please don't blame me for something I never said. > Now please have a look again, how big is the sponsorship Fedora EMEA can > do ... You forgot to mention that the EMEA also gets money from sponsors and not only from it's members. You also forgot to mention how small the member fee is compared to the budget. EMEA was founded to raise money from commercial sponsors in first place, not from ambassadors. > It is really important that we discuss things on the round table maybe > also in native language German ... > > Just my (last) 5 Cents > > Gerold I'm looking forward to discuss this on LT too. Christoph From eduardo.villagran.morales at gmail.com Thu May 15 18:38:25 2008 From: eduardo.villagran.morales at gmail.com (Eduardo =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Villagr=E1n?= Morales) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:38:25 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 9 Sulpher: First Impression In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1210876705.5450.1.camel@caleuche> El jue, 15-05-2008 a las 09:48 +0600, Angel escribi?: > Hi, > Just released Fedora 9 Sulpher. I hope, you already downloaded and > installed it. Surely, you loved it. Tell us, about your experience. > How is Sulpher? what do you think about Sulpher? WoW!, I upgrade from Fedora 8 to Fedora 9 with preupgrade. It's take arround 5 hours (download + upgrade). It's fantastic!, a nice visual experience. > Thank you. > > -- > Angel > GPG key: 0xC4639705 > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AshiqurRahman > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Esta parte del mensaje est? firmada digitalmente URL: From matt at domsch.com Thu May 15 19:55:04 2008 From: matt at domsch.com (Matt Domsch) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:55:04 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Debian Bug Leaves Private SSL/SSH Keys Guessable In-Reply-To: <482C11CF.8060602@tondo.it> References: <482C11CF.8060602@tondo.it> Message-ID: <20080515195504.GC30035@domsch.com> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 12:34:55PM +0200, Elio Tondo wrote: > Sorry if this is somewhat off-topic, but it's good to know that Fedora is > immune from this bug... "This problem not only affects Debian, but also all > its derivatives, such as Ubuntu." > > http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/13/1533212&from=rss To be clear, we got lucky on this one. It would be entirely possible for us to get caught in the opposite role on another vulnerability. Vigilance! From ben.lewis at benl.co.uk Thu May 15 19:59:17 2008 From: ben.lewis at benl.co.uk (Benjamin Lewis) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 20:59:17 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Debian Bug Leaves Private SSL/SSH Keys Guessable In-Reply-To: <20080515195504.GC30035@domsch.com> References: <482C11CF.8060602@tondo.it> <20080515195504.GC30035@domsch.com> Message-ID: <200805152059.21020.ben.lewis@benl.co.uk> On Thursday 15 May 2008 20:55:04 Matt Domsch wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 12:34:55PM +0200, Elio Tondo wrote: > > Sorry if this is somewhat off-topic, but it's good to know that Fedora is > > immune from this bug... "This problem not only affects Debian, but also > > all its derivatives, such as Ubuntu." > > > > http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/13/1533212&from=rss > > To be clear, we got lucky on this one. It would be entirely possible > for us to get caught in the opposite role on another vulnerability. > > Vigilance! > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Surely our policy of following upstream closely would actually mean that it would be more likely that _everyone_ gets caught, as Debian (hence Ubuntu) patch things to a much greater extent? 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URL: From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Thu May 15 21:15:28 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 23:15:28 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questions In-Reply-To: <1210856883.7295.13.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <200805121936.59198.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1210856883.7295.13.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <200805152315.40123.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Hi Christoph, You do not need answer this. I think most people are sick of our ping pong game :P Am Donnerstag, 15. Mai 2008 15:08:03 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > I agree the fee is a statement, but do you think that on the other hand > not being able to pay the fee also is one? People who are not willing or > able to pay the membership may still valuable and hard working > contributors. You read my comment about help/sponsoring this people? > Sorry for asking again, but my question still isn't answered: Is Fedora > EMEA really bound to FESCO or FAMSCO from a judical point of view? Can > someone please show me the corresponding words in the EMEA statutes? > TIA. The Fedora Board has given Fedora EMEA e.V. the right to use the Brand "Fedora" (Name, Artwork, Logo ...) and requested quarterly Report to have the overview that we act in there terms. If we will not do our Job, they can take us this right - without this Fedora EMEA e.V. is nothing. > It's a fact that we already have this situation. Think of Kushal for > example: No doubt that he is a valuable contributor and if I did not > offer him a free place to sleep he would not have been able to come to > Berlin at all. Two days ago he told me that he wont be able to come > anyway because he did not find a sponsor. I think is good to have Friends from all over the world in Berlin. Last Year we had Kushal in Berlin and i am sure it is not the last time we had fun together. I am also sure most of us in Germany would take the chance to get a sponsored flight to india or US to speak about our work in europe. This Year Contributors like Yakoov from US will join us - next year another one - for me this is a good choice. > Please tell me, did you know what I just wrote about Kushal? Yes! And be sure many more about him - i can call him a good fellow! > If the > answer is "yes", then your "we will find a solution" is wrong. To sponsor flights for Speakers in the end is a decission who is taken by FedoraCommunity Leader EMEA MaxSpevack. How we handle the Member Fee not. Only a Example - solution for membership could also be, that the NPO Members decide to create a Activity-CreditSystem - less MemberFee for doing something like talks, events ... > And if > the answer is "no", you are not in the position to tell me that The answer is yes - so i am now? > I don't > know what's happening in the Ambassador's community. like your kind question in http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2007-December/msg00019.html You must like our Events a lot! > You just said that I never really worked with the Ambassadors Community. > Thanks a lot! Maybe I'm not the loudest person who always shouts out "Me > first", but I'm doing a lot of work for the project that you won't see > on this mailing list. Sorry to say, you never showed an interest in the preparation for the NPO in Front of Fosdem or other events, or interest to work in a team with the majority of European Ambassadors. I believe you, when you say - you do a lot for the Fedora Project as a Maintainer or so ...! To work as a Ambassador is to communicate and encourage. Tue Gutes und rede darueber ;-) Back to work now! Gruss Joerg -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From fab at fedoraproject.org Thu May 15 21:26:46 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 23:26:46 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors Meeting EMEA - IRC Log 2008-05-14 Message-ID: <482CAA96.8000207@fedoraproject.org> HTML version of the log is here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-05-14/HTML_Log Raw log is here: If there are some ambassadors around mhm please a roll call i am GeroldKassube JohnBabich JamesBenWilliams FabianAffolter JoergSimon PeterReuschlein FrancescoCrippa SandroMathys Just a reminder. Please follow our meeting protocol http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol. Thank you. Please open our meeting page at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-05-14 for the agenda if the wiki lets you there are no additional topic...thanks god it will be a short meeting ;-) Let's start... Report current status of FAmSCo News from FAmSCo fugolini: ping sorry i didn't attend the famsco meeting...so i have nothing to tell you only one thing ThomasCanniot wiki migration to mediawiki will perhaps happen at the end of this month. The test instance is still available at https://publictest1.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Main_Page next: Report current status of Ambassadors Membership As of 2008-05-12, 367 Ambassadors have been verified (signed CLA and joined 'ambassadors' group) Check http://jeffreyt.fedorapeople.org/ambassador-metrics/ambassador_verification_metrics_apr08.pdf now events Please open Fedora Events http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents Some Release Parties were over, would anybody like to report here. ! fcrippa, just a couple of links http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa/2008/05/14/fedora-9-release-party-in-italy/ http://flickr.com/photos/fcrippa/sets/72157605053375767/ and some luca's photos (uploading still in progress...) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lfoppiano/ event was great! :_) eof fcrippa: thanks anything about Fedora 9 Presentation at Tunis? ?! GeroldKa, maybe you should invite personally thus people who were not "much" present in the web to attend our monthly meeting eof I sent around 25 personal invitation to people all over EMEA last month this didn't work out ? Southern_Gentlem, ! * whitenoise is now known as lfoppiano with the time change now i will be able to make more meetings eof lfoppiano, I want to say only I'm writing my report, so tomorrow or in an hour it will be published :) about fedora 9 release party italy ;-) eof Release Party Patras, glezos? fabian_a: scheduled for Saturday, seems pretty exciting. estimated people around 40 printed t-shirts, etc. * glezos expecting loads of fun. eof thanks, glezos (fwrong date in the wiki) other Release Parties? no? FAD LinuxTag, Attention: we will meet at a new location -> LinuxTag fair ground "Messe am Funkturm" there still some countries missing for the fad country overview, please step up and add your country http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADLinuxTag2008/CountryOverview ! petreu, are there any pages that show a overview about expenses to events? i had a look through the wiki but havnt found that much eof good question http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Accounting contains some data but only rh (usa) budget I guess. have anybody some more details? yes, the thing is , i tried to get a overview for the CountryOverview site but there isnt that much detailed information on the wiki ! make a rough estimate GeroldKa, expenses and costs are very difficult to show them all (also in public); in the past we hadn't a overview at all mostly it was that the event owner organised all and talked with max about his expenses me from my perspective tried every event I organized to get at leat the room for sleeping paid the fair ground expect Linuxtag is mostly for free eof anything else about the up-coming FAD or LinuxTag at Berlin? ! petreu, as you can see on the ML marco and i will organize some laptop stickers if you want to get some tell me on theml just notice the deadline eof ! GeroldKa, on the booth nothing, really NOTHING will be sold ... ! if we need to sell such sticker please let me know in /query eof petreu, nothn will be sold, this are giveaways i will get 1000 marco too, if other ambassadors will nee dmore for their local events they can order them its nothing about money making efof s/efof/eof petreu: is there a wiki page? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Stickers petreu: thanks FrOSCon 2008 needs an owner! Is there anyone who would like to discuss another up-coming event or report a past event? ! GeroldKa, some information about Linuxtag?! GeroldKa: sure go ahead we`ll have 7 x 3,5 mtr as booth we`ll have a three sides open booth we have all personal with booth passes confirmed we`ll have a FUDCon on Friday (2008-05-30) we`ll have red Hat Human Resources at the booth we will cover 9 different nations at Linuxtag and we will have on Fraiday a one hour live radio Stream at Radio-Tux with interviews we will have a OLPC and last but not least a "... lot of fun ..." eof GeroldKa: thanks are we done with the events? 3 2 1 next: Status of the NPO ! The German government confirmed Fedora EMEA as a tax reduced association. GeroldKa, you took my words out of my mouth ... but Fedora EMEA e.V. is ready to GO! GeroldKa: sorry Congrats we will have another member meeting in front of Linuxtag at 2008-05-27 in Messe am Funkturm in Berlin the only issue is to elect a "new Teasurer" eof anything else about the Fedora EMEA NPO? ! jmbuser, Congrats on all the hard work in getting the NPO together good luck on LinuxTag - wish I could attend EOF jmbuser: thanks so come on and join us Now the stage is open...anything else? Any more questions or topics before we close this meeting? 30 20 10 5 Thanks for attending this meeting and spending 42 min of your day ;-) Fedora Ambassadors Meeting EMEA 2008-05-14 has been adjourned. Next meeting in June 2008. From red at fedoraproject.org Thu May 15 22:32:11 2008 From: red at fedoraproject.org (Sandro "red" Mathys) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 00:32:11 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] FrOSCon 2008, anyone? Message-ID: <482CB9EB.4080402@fedoraproject.org> Hi * FrOSCon is taking place in Germany very soon-ish [1] and Fedora is not there (yet?). Some facts: - We have no event-owner - We have no event-staff - Max Spevack might give a talk there - The deadline to apply for a booth is 2008-05-18 (this Sunday) I think it'd be a good expo/conference to go to but I couldn't (and wouldn't want to) do it alone. We'd need to be 3 persons at least, I'd say. And I'd like someone local to take the event ownership. So, the big question is: Who is participating? Regards red / SandroMathys [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents#head-856eb4616261225a61112db1c09f2b01ceedf084-2 From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Fri May 16 00:13:45 2008 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 02:13:45 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questions In-Reply-To: <200805152315.40123.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <200805121936.59198.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1210856883.7295.13.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <200805152315.40123.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1210896825.12144.120.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Donnerstag, den 15.05.2008, 23:15 +0200 schrieb JoergSimon: > Hi Christoph, > > You do not need answer this. I think most people are sick of our ping pong > game :P I'd be happy if it were ping pong, because I hardly get a reply to simple yes/no questions. :( > Am Donnerstag, 15. Mai 2008 15:08:03 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > > I agree the fee is a statement, but do you think that on the other hand > > not being able to pay the fee also is one? People who are not willing or > > able to pay the membership may still valuable and hard working > > contributors. > > You read my comment about help/sponsoring this people? Of course I did, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to ask you something about this comment, wouldn't I? > > > Sorry for asking again, but my question still isn't answered: Is Fedora > > EMEA really bound to FESCO or FAMSCO from a judical point of view? Can > > someone please show me the corresponding words in the EMEA statutes? > > TIA. > > The Fedora Board has given Fedora EMEA e.V. the right to use the > Brand "Fedora" (Name, Artwork, Logo ...) and requested quarterly Report to > have the overview that we act in there terms. If we will not do our Job, they > can take us this right - without this Fedora EMEA e.V. is nothing. But this doesn't mean that EMEA e.V. and Fedora (RH, FeSCo, FAmSCo or whoever) will always agree. And I does not say anything on what to do when they disagree. Threatening people is not a solution and will not encourage them to anything, especially if it is an empty thread. Do you really think RH would leave the NPO and look for other people to found a new one? This would be the 'last exit', but we need to find ways to avoid this a few steps earlier - and this is exactly what I'm talking about. > > > It's a fact that we already have this situation. Think of Kushal for > > example: No doubt that he is a valuable contributor and if I did not > > offer him a free place to sleep he would not have been able to come to > > Berlin at all. Two days ago he told me that he wont be able to come > > anyway because he did not find a sponsor. > > I think is good to have Friends from all over the world in Berlin. Last Year > we had Kushal in Berlin and i am sure it is not the last time we had fun > together. I am also sure most of us in Germany would take the chance to get a > sponsored flight to india or US to speak about our work in europe. This Year > Contributors like Yakoov from US will join us - next year another one - for > me this is a good choice. > > > Please tell me, did you know what I just wrote about Kushal? > > Yes! And be sure many more about him - i can call him a good fellow! > > > If the > > answer is "yes", then your "we will find a solution" is wrong. > > To sponsor flights for Speakers in the end is a decission who is taken by > FedoraCommunity Leader EMEA MaxSpevack. How we handle the Member Fee not. > Only a Example - solution for membership could also be, that the NPO Members > decide to create a Activity-CreditSystem - less MemberFee for doing something > like talks, events ... Thanks, this is the first constructive statement regarding the member fee I heard in this discussion and I think we should follow our idea. > > > And if > > the answer is "no", you are not in the position to tell me that > > The answer is yes - so i am now? Yes you are, but then I wonder how you can write "we will find a solution" when you know that we already failed in case of "a good fellow" of yours. > > > I don't > > know what's happening in the Ambassador's community. > > like your kind question in > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2007-December/msg00019.html > You must like our Events a lot! There was simple reason for that: Although EMEA was the primary topic of FAD at Rheinfelden I could not find the meeting minutes with a search for "EMEA" or "Rheinfelden". It was my mistake, I did not look close enough and I publicly excused for this like half an hour later. Nevertheless I still think the meeting minutes belong into the wiki but not into a PDF inside a tarball at fedorapeople.org. > > > You just said that I never really worked with the Ambassadors Community. > > Thanks a lot! Maybe I'm not the loudest person who always shouts out "Me > > first", but I'm doing a lot of work for the project that you won't see > > on this mailing list. > > Sorry to say, you never showed an interest in the preparation for the NPO in > Front of Fosdem or other events, or interest to work in a team with the > majority of European Ambassadors. Now you blame me for not showing interest in the NPO, but in the previous paragraph you blamed me for asking for information about the NPO. Huh? So if I'm not interested, why would I ask for information? Again you confuse "interest" with "financial possibilities". I would have loved to attend FAD at Rheinfelden, but when I do I need to be sure it's worth the time and the costs for me. So I wrote a long mail to the ambassador who organized the FAD and asked if he could give me more detailed information, so I could prepare better for the meeting. I also offered more help, but never got a reply, so I did not go to Rheinfelden. > > I believe you, when you say - you do a lot for the Fedora Project as a > Maintainer or so ...! ????You are right: I have to admit I did not work WITH the other ambassadors a lot, but that doesn't mean I didn't work FOR them. In 2007, my fist year as an ambassador I did: * Linuxtag 2007 of course * I-Party (annual install party here at M?nster) * 2 full days on "linux.forum/nrw". * One radio interview on Fedora * One meeting with a couple of journalists whom I showed "sugar" Correct my if I'm wrong but I think all of these events are ambassadors action. > > To work as a Ambassador is to communicate and encourage. Tue Gutes und rede > darueber ;-) Back to work now! I'm not good in fishing for compliments and I don't need to write I did this or that just to win recognition. The saying ?"Do something good and talk about it" also means that something needs to be done before you can talk. Unfortunately I'm under the impression that some people are proceeding the other way round, so I try to talk as little as possible. I hope you won't reproach me with that. > > Gruss Joerg > Regards, Christoph From mspevack at redhat.com Fri May 16 02:41:14 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 22:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questions In-Reply-To: <1210876466.3017.67.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <482584AF.7090100@kanarip.com> <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <200805121936.59198.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1210856883.7295.13.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <3708.217.162.12.42.1210861209.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <1210876466.3017.67.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: On Thu, 15 May 2008, Christoph Wickert wrote: > So my original question is legitimate: What happens if EMEA e. V. > disagrees with FAmSCo or FeSCo? Indeed, it's a hypothetical question. > I'm not saying that it necessarily will happen, but in a big community > of people it is very likely to happen sooner or later and we need to > be prepared for the worst case. I speak only for myself: Fedora EMEA e.V. can do whatever it wants. It is a *coincidence* that many of Fedora EMEA e.V.'s members are also Fedora contributors, volunteers, developers, and ambassadors. Fedora EMEA e.V. is granted the right to use the "Fedora" name by the Fedora Board, and that right is granted as long as the Fedora Board believes that the work Fedora EMEA e.V. is doing supports the larger work that the Fedora Project is doing. One of the most useful properties of Fedora EMEA e.V. is that it will allow the Fedora and Community budget that Red Hat allocates for EMEA (not just Europe, but for all of EMEA) to be more easily managed and spent. Right now, paying for an event like LinuxTag is a difficult task, that has taken up a lot of my time and energy behind the scenes. The actual organizational work has been done by the LinuxTag organizational team, but in the end it is my responsibility to make sure the bills get paid. Having a legal entity (Fedora EMEA e.V.) in the future will make this easier. Again, I urge everyone to think of Fedora EMEA e.V. as a useful tool and legal entity that can *support* the Fedora Project, and *not* as a replacement for anything that the Fedora Ambassadors group is doing. ========== On the subject of LinuxTag directly, I will say this: We are spending close to $20k USD on LinuxTag this year, which is more than double what we spent on the event last year. There will be over 20 Fedora Ambasadors from all over Europe at the event, which makes it the largest non-FUDCon event that we have ever had, anywhere in the world. It is also a 4 day event in a large, expensive city. The *vast majority* of the costs of LinuxTag go to helping to make sure that all the Fedora Ambassadors and contributors who attend the event do not have to suffer financial hardship in order to do so. Those Ambassadors are already giving 4 days of their time, and almost all of them are going into their own pockets for travel costs and for Fedora polo shirts. The Fedora Project is helping to make sure that the hotel bills are paid. But our money is not infinite, and while it pains me to not be able to fully fund everyone's trip to LinuxTag, at some point we had to draw the line. There is only *one person* coming to LinuxTag from outside of Europe, and that is Paul Frields. The Fedora Project spends the *vast majority* of its funds directly on community members, helping to fund travel, lodging, etc. This will continue to be the case, but our money is not unlimited. :) Significant community investment is being made this year in Europe, India, South America, and Asia. These are areas that have, in the past, only received small amounts of funding. All Fedora contributors in those parts of the world will have opportunities to organize, attend, and participate in events this year that never existed before. ======= I hope this email serves to give everyone some of my own views into the Fedora EMEA e.V. and also into how worldwide budget decisions are weighed and managed. I am happy to talk in depth about any more of this, either on the list, or in person at LinuxTag. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Fri May 16 02:44:24 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 22:44:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questions In-Reply-To: <200805152315.40123.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <200805121936.59198.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1210856883.7295.13.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <200805152315.40123.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 15 May 2008, JoergSimon wrote: > I think is good to have Friends from all over the world in Berlin. > Last Year we had Kushal in Berlin and i am sure it is not the last > time we had fun together. I am also sure most of us in Germany would > take the chance to get a sponsored flight to india or US to speak > about our work in europe. This Year Contributors like Yakoov from US > will join us - next year another one - for me this is a good choice. Just to clarify: Yaakov will be in Europe *anyway* during the months of May, June, and July. So having him at LinuxTag is a very small additional cost to our budget. I try to spread our sponsorship money around to a variety of people, and not simply sponsor the same people over and over again. In North America, there are a number of people who have received sponsorship to attend FUDCons in the past who will not receive sponsorship for FUDCon Boston. Does this mean that they are not valuable members of our community? Of course not -- they are very valuable. But there are other valuable members of our community who have never been to an event like FUDCon, and we want them to be able to attend also. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Fri May 16 02:45:46 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 22:45:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors Meeting EMEA - IRC Log 2008-05-14 In-Reply-To: <482CAA96.8000207@fedoraproject.org> References: <482CAA96.8000207@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 15 May 2008, Fabian Affolter wrote: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-05-14/HTML_Log I'm sorry I missed this meeting. I was out of town on vacation. :) --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Fri May 16 02:49:15 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 22:49:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] FrOSCon 2008, anyone? In-Reply-To: <482CB9EB.4080402@fedoraproject.org> References: <482CB9EB.4080402@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 May 2008, Sandro "red" Mathys wrote: > Some facts: > - We have no event-owner > - We have no event-staff > - Max Spevack might give a talk there > - The deadline to apply for a booth is 2008-05-18 (this Sunday) > > I think it'd be a good expo/conference to go to but I couldn't (and > wouldn't want to) do it alone. We'd need to be 3 persons at least, I'd > say. And I'd like someone local to take the event ownership. > > So, the big question is: Who is participating? I am! Red, would you be willing do to the paperwork to apply for a booth, and maybe a Birds of a Feather or Q&A session if they are possible? I'd really appreciate it, since I am in the process of doing my Big Move over the next few days, and I will be pretty disconnected from everything until the middle of next week. The event will be funded by FAMSCo, since it made it onto the Events Page prior to the May 1 deadline. I am submitting my proposal for a talk separately, but I'm pretty hopeful that it will be accepted. Who else wants to come to FrOSCon? --Max From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Fri May 16 06:21:39 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 08:21:39 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] LINdependence 2008 - no Fedora? Message-ID: <64b14b300805152321u74957881p9bb4b6667df10453@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I heard about LINdependence 2008 on a podcast [1] and now lots of distributions are jumping in to help out but there was no mention of Fedora. Are there any Ambassadors that are willing to help in this project? It has to be someone who is closer to the location (Felton, California) of someone willing to travel a bit. If I get the travel expenses I'll go :) But it is obviously better that someone local goes there. More info about this can be heard and read here: http://faq.fixedbylinux.com-a.googlepages.com/lindependence2008-bringinglinuxtothemass http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2008/02/linependence-2008.html [1] http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TheLinuxLinkTechShowMp3Feed/~3/267434120/tllts_240-04-09-08.mp3 Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From romal at fedoraproject.org Fri May 16 06:31:32 2008 From: romal at fedoraproject.org (Robert M. Albrecht) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 08:31:32 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Froscon 2008 Message-ID: Hi, I have some time in August, so I can attend. cu romal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri May 16 12:12:26 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 14:12:26 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Best choice for DVD CD 9 give away In-Reply-To: <1210705890.18315.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200805132041.23121.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1210705359.11830.5.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210705890.18315.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: 2008/5/13 Baris Cicek : > > According to smolt statistics[1] PPC consists only 0.4 % of the total > installations. If we bases smolt statistics as decision basis it should > be: > > 750 x i386 > 250 x x86_64 > > Though I think x86_64 architecture should have more media. There are still many people using PPC, i think burn 50 of them, could help people who are still using a obsolete system to use Fedora. That's my perspective. Francesco p.s. i've two PPC pcs and i'm using F9 on both machines. From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri May 16 12:15:11 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 14:15:11 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 9 Relese Party (Lodi - Italy) In-Reply-To: <1210801500.19132.1.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> References: <1886517201.13731210759155911.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <1210801500.19132.1.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> Message-ID: 2008/5/14 Luca Foppiano : > > On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 11:59 +0200, Francesco Crippa wrote: >> Hi folks! >> >> here you are a couple of links to have a report (and photos) of yesterday night (the first official Fedora 9 Release Party in Italy): >> >> http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa/2008/05/14/fedora-9-release-party-in-italy/ >> http://flickr.com/photos/fcrippa/sets/72157605053375767/ >> >> just a couple of words: It-was-great!!! :-) >> One of the best Fedora events in Italy since last year. >> >> Soon you'll see reports from all the others Italian Ambassadors! > > my report and my photos: > http://bayzone.wordpress.com/2008/05/14/fedora-9-release-party-report/ > http://flickr.com/photos/lfoppiano/sets/72157605061185677/ > > bye > Luca > -- > Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 61st day of Discord in the YOLD 3174 > > If you continually give you will continually have. Great report and great event too. Thanks Francesco, Luca and all the people who work to organize this event. Regards Francesco From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri May 16 12:22:04 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 14:22:04 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors Meeting EMEA - IRC Log 2008-05-14 In-Reply-To: References: <482CAA96.8000207@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: 2008/5/16 Max Spevack : > On Thu, 15 May 2008, Fabian Affolter wrote: > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-05-14/HTML_Log > > I'm sorry I missed this meeting. I was out of town on vacation. :) > > --Max > Sorry, i had to prepare for the next day exam. But, meanwhile, thank you Fabian, Gerold and who joined the meeting. Thank you for the log too Regards Francesco From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri May 16 13:03:54 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 15:03:54 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questions In-Reply-To: <1210456428.6516.85.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> <4825383D.5070601@gmail.com> <482584AF.7090100@kanarip.com> <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1210454949.29786.24.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210456428.6516.85.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: 2008/5/10 Christoph Wickert : > Sorry if I took you to literally. Also as I already told you in private > I do not criticize you or your work. Please don't be offended just > because you are the chair of EMEA. Thanks > > Maybe someone else of the people who voted for 128 EUR could explain it > to me then? I'm not talking about 128 or 129 Euros now but the general > height of the fee. All the founders vote for this fee, and they all together decided that it would the best solution, considering the number in a year ( 10.5 ? circa per month and less than 4 cent per day), so i know we are living with an economy near the stagnation, but i don't understand why this fee could create such criticism. Yes, i agree if you tell me that those are money, and it's a week or two of work in a PA office, but i think if you consider that amount in a larger view it's not so much. > > There are several people on this list who say the fee is very high so I > don't understand why this hasn't been considered by the founding members > before. Maybe because they weren't in Bruxelles? >I agree the fee is a statement, but do you think that on the other hand >not being able to pay the fee also is one? People who are not willing or >able to pay the membership may still valuable and hard working >contributors. There are several categories that have cost reduction to allow people who can't afford such cost (i think one of this people with a certain income not to pay or pay a low fee, but see the "fee document" to be sure). >Sorry if I did not point out my suggestion more clearly: Lower the >member fee to enable more people to participate. Especially because the >NPO is called EMEA but lacks ME and A at the moment. A is not missing. In Africa there are some ambassadors who expressed in the past their agreement for such initiative, not to have a card with Fedora EMEA writte on it, but to be able to easily ask for resources and be part of a easy network that could linke them. In the last LinuxTag a Monzambique ambassador attended the event and seemes interested in this idea. For ME there is some work in progress, but if you consider we had just an event in Dubay (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/GITEX). I think if we ask ambassadors and contributors they aren't in search of membership, but in search of help. Fedora EMEA is something that was created after two year of contribution, that underlines the importance to have a center in the EMEA where we can refer to improve our work. >It's a fact that we already have this situation. Think of Kushal for >example: No doubt that he is a valuable contributor and if I did not >offer him a free place to sleep he would not have been able to come to >Berlin at all. Two days ago he told me that he wont be able to come >anyway because he did not find a sponsor. I agree with Joerg and Max posts: they express what i think too. Let me add a tought: There is a lot of work in front of us, we have to focus our time and passion (that you and everyone here has) in a costructive way. While we are discussiong about this issue, we are losing a possible Fedora user and/or contributors, and we are moving away the community. Please, just give the time to Fedora EMEA to spring its wings and demostrate its capacities, then you'll have all the time to criticize its positions, but, now, let Gerold and the EMEA board to build Fedora EMEA: they were voted by people with a publig vote (see the M-L announce and the self-nomination wiki) and now they have the right and the duty to work! Regards Francesco Ugolini From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri May 16 14:23:37 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:23:37 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] A brief review of the past months Message-ID: I'm really happy and proud to see how many events we have covered and how many people joined the project in the first part of this year. I invite all people to take a look at the (near to be) past fiscal quarter's events [1] and read the events' reports posted in the planet [2] and in the Ambassadors M-L archive [3]. We are in the right way and, I'm sure, we can grow more in the next months. FAmSCo is working promoting Ambassadors activities (see F9 Release Parties [4] and the other activities in this way [5]) and trying to simplify its structure [5], moreover it is trying to be a bridge between people, to be an ear and a helpfull hand. I want to thank all the Ambassadors and Contributors who are spending their time making a dream a reality, who are talking with people and are spreading Fedora values. Hoping a great future for Fedora and all Fedora Ambassadors Regards Francesco Ugolini [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents?action=show&redirect=Events#head-d1b2a4c3d2bd0a001672cee36b3c603ffbe7127a [2] http://planet.fedoraproject.org/ [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/ [4] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseEvents and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ [5] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Agenda From luca at foppiano.org Fri May 16 18:14:37 2008 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 20:14:37 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] linux tag...in delay, two questions :) Message-ID: <1210961677.3813.7.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> Hi all, I'm sorry for delay, I know now may be late for ask...but I want to try :) I'd like to come to linux tag, but cause some problems and events in this period, I delayed my decision... There is still possibility to get a place to Linux Tag with fedora group? :) thanks and sorry :) Luca -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 63rd day of Discord in the YOLD 3174 For adult education nothing beats children. From matt at domsch.com Fri May 16 18:48:45 2008 From: matt at domsch.com (Matt Domsch) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 13:48:45 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Best choice for DVD CD 9 give away In-Reply-To: References: <200805132041.23121.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1210705359.11830.5.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210705890.18315.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20080516184845.GA30440@domsch.com> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 02:12:26PM +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > 2008/5/13 Baris Cicek : > > > > > According to smolt statistics[1] PPC consists only 0.4 % of the total > > installations. If we bases smolt statistics as decision basis it should > > be: > > > > 750 x i386 > > 250 x x86_64 > > > > Though I think x86_64 architecture should have more media. > > There are still many people using PPC, i think burn 50 of them, could > help people who are still using a obsolete system to use Fedora. > > That's my perspective. > > Francesco > > p.s. i've two PPC pcs and i'm using F9 on both machines. No one is denying that there are some ppc Fedora users. I sure hope there are, for the efforts the ppc architcture team and release-engineering put into it. However, producing media costs money; producing pressed media for small batches (e.g. 50) costs more per-unit than producing larger batches (~1000). A quick look at the number of Unique IP addresses downloading Fedora 9 media this week shows: ppc: 4201 ( 2.6%) x86_64: 37074 (23.0%) i386: 119845 (74.4%) So, a split of 75% i386 and 25% x86_64 seems entirely appropriate to me, and a good use of the money. If Ambassadors wish to burn ppc media themselves to bring, they are of course welcome and encouraged to do so. -Matt From mspevack at redhat.com Fri May 16 20:33:52 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:33:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] OLPCs at LinuxTag Message-ID: We have 2 OLPCs floating around Europe now, both of which are likely to end up at LinuxTag. I think that the people who are demonstrating them need to make sure they can appropriately talk about what has happened lately with the whole OLPC/Windows saga: We should focus on the Sugar interface, and making sure people know that this interface is still being developed, regardless of whatever else is happening with OLPC itself. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Main_Page --Max From gerold at lugd.org Fri May 16 21:15:35 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 23:15:35 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] linux tag...in delay, two questions :) In-Reply-To: <1210961677.3813.7.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> References: <1210961677.3813.7.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> Message-ID: <1210972535.10404.12.camel@F9NB.homenet.local> Luca, you're more than very, very late :-( I try my best to get a room for you but I can't promise. Maybe you have seen all other issues at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008 I let you know as soon as I have a "confirmed" room for you if it's OK for you; Or you look by your own but it's difficult :-/ Regards Gerold Am Freitag, den 16.05.2008, 20:14 +0200 schrieb Luca Foppiano: > Hi all, > I'm sorry for delay, I know now may be late for ask...but I want to > try :) > > I'd like to come to linux tag, but cause some problems and events in > this period, I delayed my decision... > There is still possibility to get a place to Linux Tag with fedora > group? :) > > thanks and sorry :) > > Luca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Maybe you have > seen all other issues at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008 > I let you know as soon as I have a "confirmed" room for you if it's OK > for you; Or you look by your own but it's difficult :-/ OK for the first one :) If you don't find a room for me, no problem ;-) thanks again Luca -- Today is Boomtime, the 64th day of Discord in the YOLD 3174 Stupidity got us into this mess -- why can't it get us out? From mak at ankur.org.bd Sat May 17 06:29:21 2008 From: mak at ankur.org.bd (mak) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 12:29:21 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Bangladesh Fedora 9 Release Party : Report Message-ID: Dear all, We (Bangladesh) had our "Fedora Release Party", it was a great evening. Yesterday more than 50 Fedora lovers joined the party. We had Imtiaz Rahithe first Bangladesh Fedora Ambassador within us, he conveyed the "Fedora Community talk", it was so inspiring that all of attendee liked to join Fedora project. After that Zaher a student from BUET showed the new features of F9. He had to answer a lot of questions regarding new features and about old bugs, thanks to Imtiaz Rahi for helping him answering those geeky questions. It was hot, so we had to have those drinks in midst of the party, anyway thanks to "our sponsor" "SweetHome" who gave us all the support. iso-to-USB-key creation station was too busy, we are sorry that we couldn't do all the USBs given to us. And of course, we've distributed free 100 Fedora 9 DVD, thanks to Jamil Ahmedhe downloaded F9 and burnt all the DVDs. No one noticed the blurry settings of the camera and all pictures were bit dark. I'm going to upload those on Flickr anyway. At the end of the party everybody agreed to form "Fedora Bangladesh" group and opened a Yahoogroups, Gulam Mustafa was appointed as the moderator. 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He had to answer a > lot of questions regarding new features and about old bugs, thanks to Imtiaz > Rahi for helping him answering those geeky questions. > > It was hot, so we had to have those drinks in midst of the party, anyway > thanks to "our sponsor" "SweetHome" who gave us all the support. > iso-to-USB-key creation station was too busy, we are sorry that we couldn't > do all the USBs given to us. > > And of course, we've distributed free 100 Fedora 9 DVD, thanks to Jamil > Ahmedhe downloaded F9 and burnt all the DVDs. > > No one noticed the blurry settings of the camera and all pictures were bit > dark. I'm going to upload those on Flickr anyway. > > At the end of the party everybody agreed to form "Fedora Bangladesh" > group and opened a Yahoogroups, > Gulam Mustafa was appointed as the moderator. This is the part that > community itself ruled over. > > -- > Regards > Mahay Alam KhanFedora Ambassador > Founder BdOSN > General Secretary - Ankur Bangladesh > > -- Regards mak ----------------------- Hacking is good Hackers human -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimitris at glezos.com Sat May 17 08:26:50 2008 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 11:26:50 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Needed: Presentation for F9 features Message-ID: <6d4237680805170126nba8dea6j98fd1c1287e04582@mail.gmail.com> Hey all, anyone has any presentation on the new features in F9? If yes, please send it to me! -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From luca at foppiano.org Sat May 17 09:51:46 2008 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 11:51:46 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Bangladesh Fedora 9 Release Party : Report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1211017906.3454.3.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> On Sat, 2008-05-17 at 13:31 +0600, mak wrote: > Here are the party photographs > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/26633091 at N05/sets/72157605101013825/ great party! :) Luca PS: USB creation station rocks!!! -- Today is Boomtime, the 64th day of Discord in the YOLD 3174 There is never time to do it right, but always time to do it over. From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat May 17 10:23:23 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 15:53:23 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Needed: Presentation for F9 features In-Reply-To: <6d4237680805170126nba8dea6j98fd1c1287e04582@mail.gmail.com> References: <6d4237680805170126nba8dea6j98fd1c1287e04582@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <482EB21B.5010303@fedoraproject.org> Dimitris Glezos wrote: > Hey all, anyone has any presentation on the new features in F9? If > yes, please send it to me! http://jkeating.livejournal.com/59623.html. You might also make reuse of material from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/ReleaseSummary Rahul From linux at elfshadow.net Sat May 17 13:12:27 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 09:12:27 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Bangladesh Fedora 9 Release Party : Report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10e0a9b00805170612jc7e540o4afb495bc45c1b98@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/17 mak : > We (Bangladesh) had our "Fedora Release Party", it was a great evening. > Yesterday more than 50 Fedora lovers joined the party. Sounds like another great release party! The Live USB keys are great and it sounds like your USB key creation station was busy. Thanks for all the hard work of the organizers! Regards, Jeffrey From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Sat May 17 14:08:33 2008 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 16:08:33 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questions In-Reply-To: References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> <4825383D.5070601@gmail.com> <482584AF.7090100@kanarip.com> <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1210454949.29786.24.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210456428.6516.85.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <1211033313.3298.83.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Hi Francesco, thanks for your reply and for defining your position. I cannot agree to everything (especially to your mathematics ;)), so please let me give you a few answers: Am Freitag, den 16.05.2008, 15:03 +0200 schrieb Francesco Ugolini: > 2008/5/10 Christoph Wickert : > > > Sorry if I took you to literally. Also as I already told you in private > > I do not criticize you or your work. Please don't be offended just > > because you are the chair of EMEA. Thanks > > > > Maybe someone else of the people who voted for 128 EUR could explain it > > to me then? I'm not talking about 128 or 129 Euros now but the general > > height of the fee. > > All the founders vote for this fee, and they all together decided that > it would the best solution, considering the number in a year ( 10.5 ? > circa per month and less than 4 cent per day), ??? 10,50 Euros a month divided by 30 days is 35 Cent per day. (This makes me wonder if I'm the only one who is reading your mail.) > so i know we are living > with an economy near the stagnation, but i don't understand why this > fee could create such criticism. Yes, i agree if you tell me that > those are money, and it's a week or two of work in a PA office, but i > think if you consider that amount in a larger view it's not so much. It's not much for you and me or might not be much for most Europeans, but for people in Africa it's two months working full time (see below). When you say "it's a week of work" then I doubt you understood the problem. > > > > > There are several people on this list who say the fee is very high so I > > don't understand why this hasn't been considered by the founding members > > before. > > Maybe because they weren't in Bruxelles? Point taken. But I think it is wrong to imply indifference to all people who did not make it Bruxelles. > > >I agree the fee is a statement, but do you think that on the other hand > >not being able to pay the fee also is one? People who are not willing or > >able to pay the membership may still valuable and hard working > >contributors. > > There are several categories that have cost reduction to allow people > who can't afford such cost (i think one of this people with a certain > income not to pay or pay a low fee, but see the "fee document" to be > sure). I'd love to but I have no idea what document your are talking about. ?I did a full text search on all my fedora mail but I can't find it, did search the Wiki and did not find it ether. Could you please show me this document? In January we had the "?EMEA: Preliminary Statutes" thread and there only a maximum was defined. The fad_2007_emea_ship_en presentation at http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FAD/ mentions two fellowship/membership levels: 25 and 50 Euros. So I hope you can understand why I was shocked when I first heard of 128 EUR last week. According to Gerold the cost reduced membership is only available to pupils, students or to people who do not work full time. I already wrote this im my second mail in this thread and nobody has corrected me/Gerold since then, so I have to assume this is correct. The Problem with this fee is that it does not take the ambassador's income or their countries purchasing power parity (PPP) into account. GDP - per capita (PPP): [1] Germany: 34,400 France: $33,800 Italy: $31,000 Netherlands: $38,600 ?Switzerland: $39,800 and in contrast: ?Armenia: $5,700 ?Jordan: $4,700 ?Mauritius $11,900 Mozambique: $900 Nigeria: $2,200 We have Ambassadors from all these countries and all these people will have to pay the same amount of money. Do you really think you will be able to attract members from Africa or the Middle East this way? > > >Sorry if I did not point out my suggestion more clearly: Lower the > >member fee to enable more people to participate. Especially because the > >NPO is called EMEA but lacks ME and A at the moment. > > A is not missing. In Africa there are some ambassadors who expressed > in the past their agreement for such initiative, not to have a card > with Fedora EMEA writte on it, but to be able to easily ask for > resources and be part of a easy network that could linke them. In the > last LinuxTag a Monzambique ambassador attended the event and seemes > interested in this idea. Africa or Middle East are missing as long as the EMEA e.V. has no paying member from there that is allowed to vote on all e.V. issues. Simple as that. > > For ME there is some work in progress, but if you consider we had just > an event in Dubay (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/GITEX). > > I think if we ask ambassadors and contributors they aren't in search > of membership, but in search of help. Fedora EMEA is something that > was created after two year of contribution, that underlines the > importance to have a center in the EMEA where we can refer to improve > our work. I can only speak for myself, but I'm also in search of participation. And participation unfortunately is limited to membership. As Jeroen pointed out this is not our policy but a legal need that you cannot change. All you can change is the height of the fee. > > >It's a fact that we already have this situation. Think of Kushal for > >example: No doubt that he is a valuable contributor and if I did not > >offer him a free place to sleep he would not have been able to come to > >Berlin at all. Two days ago he told me that he wont be able to come > >anyway because he did not find a sponsor. > > I agree with Joerg and Max posts: they express what i think too. > > Let me add a tought: > > There is a lot of work in front of us, we have to focus our time and > passion (that you and everyone here has) in a costructive way. While > we are discussiong about this issue, we are losing a possible Fedora > user and/or contributors, and we are moving away the community. Do you really think we are loosing people because we TALK? Fedora is lucky to have a large and vital community and it is completely normal for people to have different opinions. Talking about this is not a uncomfortable liability or a waste of time but a fundamental need. If you say we are moving away from the community I have to reply that IMO we are moving away by making the Fedora NPO an exclusive club of Europeans or people who can afford it otherwise. > > Please, just give the time to Fedora EMEA to spring its wings and > demostrate its capacities, then you'll have all the time to criticize > its positions, Sorry to interrupt you here: I'm not criticizing the EMEA's positions but a single point in it's design. > but, now, let Gerold and the EMEA board to build Fedora > EMEA: they were voted by people with a publig vote (see the M-L > announce and the self-nomination wiki) and now they have the right and > the duty to work! Of course they have, please understand I don't challenge this at all. Kind Regards, Christoph [1] Numbers are taken from the World Fact Book. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/ From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Sat May 17 14:18:07 2008 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 16:18:07 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Booth @ LT2008 - What do we need? Message-ID: <1211033887.3298.94.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Is there anything left we need for the booth at Linux Tag 2008? I could offer * a small fanless 8 Port Gigabit Switch or * a compact 26 Port Netgear Gigabit/Fast Ethernet Switch. Choose one and I will donate it to the Event Box after Linuxtag. Do wee need more ethernet cables and stuff? Christoph P.S.: ?I think we should set up a Wiki page for this. From matthiaskranz at gmx.de Sat May 17 14:33:47 2008 From: matthiaskranz at gmx.de (Matthias Kranz) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 16:33:47 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Booth @ LT2008 - What do we need? In-Reply-To: <1211033887.3298.94.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <1211033887.3298.94.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <1211034827.11590.4.camel@dhcp-0-189.muc.redhat.com> On Sat, 2008-05-17 at 16:18 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Is there anything left we need for the booth at Linux Tag 2008? > P.S.: ?I think we should set up a Wiki page for this. What do you mean? There is http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008 Anything missing there? Matthias From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sat May 17 14:48:01 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 16:48:01 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questions In-Reply-To: <1211033313.3298.83.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> <4825383D.5070601@gmail.com> <482584AF.7090100@kanarip.com> <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1210454949.29786.24.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210456428.6516.85.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1211033313.3298.83.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: 2008/5/17 Christoph Wickert : > Hi Francesco, > > thanks for your reply and for defining your position. I cannot agree to > everything (especially to your mathematics ;)), so please let me give > you a few answers: > > Am Freitag, den 16.05.2008, 15:03 +0200 schrieb Francesco Ugolini: >> 2008/5/10 Christoph Wickert : >> >> > Sorry if I took you to literally. Also as I already told you in private >> > I do not criticize you or your work. Please don't be offended just >> > because you are the chair of EMEA. Thanks >> > >> > Maybe someone else of the people who voted for 128 EUR could explain it >> > to me then? I'm not talking about 128 or 129 Euros now but the general >> > height of the fee. >> >> All the founders vote for this fee, and they all together decided that >> it would the best solution, considering the number in a year ( 10.5 ? >> circa per month and less than 4 cent per day), > > ??? 10,50 Euros a month divided by 30 days is 35 Cent per day. (This > makes me wonder if I'm the only one who is reading your mail.) Just a mistake made with calculator (I've read the decimal like the cent and I've approximated this one, sorry). The substance doesn't change. It doesn't matter if nobody took care of my mail, I prefer to see 10 people working for fedora than 20 ones reading my mail :) > I'd love to but I have no idea what document your are talking about. ?I > did a full text search on all my fedora mail but I can't find it, did > search the Wiki and did not find it ether. Could you please show me this > document? > > In January we had the "?EMEA: Preliminary Statutes" thread and there > only a maximum was defined. The fad_2007_emea_ship_en presentation at > http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FAD/ mentions two fellowship/membership > levels: 25 and 50 Euros. So I hope you can understand why I was shocked > when I first heard of 128 EUR last week. > > According to Gerold the cost reduced membership is only available to > pupils, students or to people who do not work full time. I already wrote > this im my second mail in this thread and nobody has corrected me/Gerold > since then, so I have to assume this is correct. > > The Problem with this fee is that it does not take the ambassador's > income or their countries purchasing power parity (PPP) into account. > > GDP - per capita (PPP): [1] > Germany: 34,400 > France: $33,800 > Italy: $31,000 > Netherlands: $38,600 > ?Switzerland: $39,800 > > and in contrast: > ?Armenia: $5,700 > ?Jordan: $4,700 > ?Mauritius $11,900 > Mozambique: $900 > Nigeria: $2,200 > > We have Ambassadors from all these countries and all these people will > have to pay the same amount of money. Do you really think you will be > able to attract members from Africa or the Middle East this way? > For this question, it would be a pleasure to know the African and Middle East ambassadors opinion. Fedora NPO is the only way to get resources for EMEA without being dependent from others. I think if we want enough money to produce cd/dvd, to sponsor events, to get help and to coordinate everything we have to set up a responsible fee. Everyone in EMEA could benefit from this decision, especially ME and Africa, i don't see how Fedora NPO membership could affect your ambassadors status. > > Do you really think we are loosing people because we TALK? Fedora is > lucky to have a large and vital community and it is completely normal > for people to have different opinions. Talking about this is not a > uncomfortable liability or a waste of time but a fundamental need. > > If you say we are moving away from the community I have to reply that > IMO we are moving away by making the Fedora NPO an exclusive club of > Europeans or people who can afford it otherwise. > But, once again, Fedora NPO is a resources' bridge, Ambassadors project is a different thing: Ambassadors could ask Fedora NPO for resources and help: they still remain Ambassadors, without any difference at all. I, you, Gerold, ME and A members etc. are both Ambassadors, and we will be so without any difference. I don't understand why join a NPO could change our status, when we would able to get stuffs and help from it :) Personally I think your opinions are important and those ones underline that you are following with attention this important step in the evolution of Fedora. I don't want to cut the discussion, I'm just asking to wait and see what the Board will do, because I'm sure they are working hard and they have the same goal of any other person here. Long life to Ambassadors! Francesco Ugolini From gvarisco at redhat.com Sat May 17 15:25:49 2008 From: gvarisco at redhat.com (Gianluca Varisco) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 17:25:49 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 9 Relese Party (Lodi - Italy) In-Reply-To: References: <1886517201.13731210759155911.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <1210801500.19132.1.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> Message-ID: <482EF8FD.2070206@redhat.com> Hi guys, Just had the time to report the event on my blog: http://www.techtemple.org/blog/2008/05/f9-release-party-lodi/ It was GREAT! Looking forward to the next one scheduled for next Saturday in Rome ;-) Cheers, -- Gianluca Varisco, RHCE Intern - Web Engineering, Red Hat Italia Tel.: +39 02 5681 4487 Fax : +39 02 669 3111 Cel.: +39 333 574 0934 Address/Indirizzo: Via Antonio Da Recanate 1 20124 Milano From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Sat May 17 18:02:49 2008 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 20:02:49 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Booth @ LT2008 - What do we need? In-Reply-To: <1211034827.11590.4.camel@dhcp-0-189.muc.redhat.com> References: <1211033887.3298.94.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1211034827.11590.4.camel@dhcp-0-189.muc.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1211047369.2947.4.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Samstag, den 17.05.2008, 16:33 +0200 schrieb Matthias Kranz: > On Sat, 2008-05-17 at 16:18 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > Is there anything left we need for the booth at Linux Tag 2008? > > > P.S.: ?I think we should set up a Wiki page for this. > > What do you mean? There is > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008 > > Anything missing there? IMO yes. A list of who brings what and what is still missing. For example the wiki page mentions several computers, but how do we connect them? > > Matthias Regards, Christoph From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Sat May 17 18:16:28 2008 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 20:16:28 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questions In-Reply-To: References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> <4825383D.5070601@gmail.com> <482584AF.7090100@kanarip.com> <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1210454949.29786.24.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210456428.6516.85.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1211033313.3298.83.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <1211048188.2947.12.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Samstag, den 17.05.2008, 16:48 +0200 schrieb Francesco Ugolini: > 2008/5/17 Christoph Wickert : > > Just a mistake made with calculator (I've read the decimal like the > cent and I've approximated this one, sorry). The substance doesn't > change. IMO it makes a big difference. If it were only 4 Cent a day we surly would not discuss this here. Anyway, can you show me the "fees" document you were talking about? I'd like to read it in preparation of the FAD. > [snipped] > > I don't want to cut the discussion, I'm just > asking to wait and see what the Board will do, because I'm sure they > are working hard and they have the same goal of any other person here. Once again: It's not about what the board will do but about the design. I'm convinced that everybody will do his best, nevertheless this is an issue that needs further discussion on the FAD. C U there, Christoph From gerold at lugd.org Sat May 17 18:21:52 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 20:21:52 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Booth @ LT2008 - What do we need? In-Reply-To: <1211047369.2947.4.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <1211033887.3298.94.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1211034827.11590.4.camel@dhcp-0-189.muc.redhat.com> <1211047369.2947.4.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <1211048512.10404.22.camel@F9NB.homenet.local> Christoph, then please be so kind and EDIT the page because it is a WIKI, everybody is invited to HELP and BE PART of it .... Regards Gerold Am Samstag, den 17.05.2008, 20:02 +0200 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > Am Samstag, den 17.05.2008, 16:33 +0200 schrieb Matthias Kranz: > > On Sat, 2008-05-17 at 16:18 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > > Is there anything left we need for the booth at Linux Tag 2008? > > > > > P.S.: ?I think we should set up a Wiki page for this. > > > > What do you mean? There is > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008 > > > > Anything missing there? > > IMO yes. A list of who brings what and what is still missing. For > example the wiki page mentions several computers, but how do we connect > them? > > > > > Matthias > > Regards, > Christoph > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Gerold Kassube -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Rashadul Islam Fedora Ambassador, Montreal GPG: 5557BFAC On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Matt Domsch wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 02:12:26PM +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > > 2008/5/13 Baris Cicek : > > > > > > > > According to smolt statistics[1] PPC consists only 0.4 % of the total > > > installations. If we bases smolt statistics as decision basis it should > > > be: > > > > > > 750 x i386 > > > 250 x x86_64 > > > > > > Though I think x86_64 architecture should have more media. > > > > There are still many people using PPC, i think burn 50 of them, could > > help people who are still using a obsolete system to use Fedora. > > > > That's my perspective. > > > > Francesco > > > > p.s. i've two PPC pcs and i'm using F9 on both machines. > > > No one is denying that there are some ppc Fedora users. I sure hope > there are, for the efforts the ppc architcture team and > release-engineering put into it. > > However, producing media costs money; producing pressed media for > small batches (e.g. 50) costs more per-unit than producing larger > batches (~1000). > > A quick look at the number of Unique IP addresses downloading Fedora 9 > media this week shows: > > ppc: 4201 ( 2.6%) > x86_64: 37074 (23.0%) > i386: 119845 (74.4%) > > So, a split of 75% i386 and 25% x86_64 seems entirely appropriate to > me, and a good use of the money. > > If Ambassadors wish to burn ppc media themselves to bring, they are of > course welcome and encouraged to do so. > > -Matt > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gvarisco at redhat.com Sat May 17 19:18:24 2008 From: gvarisco at redhat.com (Gianluca Varisco) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 21:18:24 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Best choice for DVD CD 9 give away In-Reply-To: <17fa59580805171208w70859bf4iba4c9d4fe43bffc4@mail.gmail.com> References: <200805132041.23121.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1210705359.11830.5.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210705890.18315.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20080516184845.GA30440@domsch.com> <17fa59580805171208w70859bf4iba4c9d4fe43bffc4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <482F2F80.2080508@redhat.com> Rashadul Islam wrote: > Hi > > Is there any Offcial Cover for Fedora 9 DVD? > If possible send all the ambassador the link of the official cover for > Fedora 9 dvd/cd? > Hi Rashadul, Did you already checked out http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9 ? ;-) Cheers, -- Gianluca Varisco, RHCE Intern - Web Engineering, Red Hat Italia Tel.: +39 02 5681 4487 Fax : +39 02 669 3111 Cel.: +39 333 574 0934 Address/Indirizzo: Via Antonio Da Recanate 1 20124 Milano From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Sat May 17 20:00:49 2008 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 22:00:49 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Booth @ LT2008 - What do we need? In-Reply-To: <1211048512.10404.22.camel@F9NB.homenet.local> References: <1211033887.3298.94.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1211034827.11590.4.camel@dhcp-0-189.muc.redhat.com> <1211047369.2947.4.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1211048512.10404.22.camel@F9NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: <1211054449.2947.20.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Samstag, den 17.05.2008, 20:21 +0200 schrieb Gerold Kassube: > Christoph, > > then please be so kind and EDIT the page because it is a WIKI, everybody > is invited to HELP and BE PART of it .... Done. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2008/BoothSetup Also attached your booth layout draft to that page. > Regards > > Gerold Is the an archive of the LFTT mailing list? Christoph From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Sun May 18 08:32:34 2008 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 10:32:34 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1830 #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20080518103234.19eeea57@agnetha.mrtomlinux> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2008-05-18 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (18 mai) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'h?sitez pas ? la modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent int?ressants. Thomas Canniot From mspevack at redhat.com Mon May 19 07:31:09 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 09:31:09 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Best choice for DVD CD 9 give away In-Reply-To: <20080516184845.GA30440@domsch.com> References: <200805132041.23121.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1210705359.11830.5.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210705890.18315.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20080516184845.GA30440@domsch.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 May 2008, Matt Domsch wrote: > No one is denying that there are some ppc Fedora users. I sure hope > there are, for the efforts the ppc architcture team and > release-engineering put into it. > > However, producing media costs money; producing pressed media for > small batches (e.g. 50) costs more per-unit than producing larger > batches (~1000). > > A quick look at the number of Unique IP addresses downloading Fedora 9 > media this week shows: > > ppc: 4201 ( 2.6%) > x86_64: 37074 (23.0%) > i386: 119845 (74.4%) > > So, a split of 75% i386 and 25% x86_64 seems entirely appropriate to > me, and a good use of the money. > > If Ambassadors wish to burn ppc media themselves to bring, they are of > course welcome and encouraged to do so. For what it's worth, I agree with Matt. And I'll add this observation: while about 25% of the *downloads* are for x86_64, I would say that about 5% of the *requests at shows* are for x86_64. It is almost entirely not worth it to print anything en masse other than x86 Live CDs and DVDs. I learned that the hard way, back in FC6, when I couldn't get rid of the x86_64 and PPC stuff that we printed to save my life. Except for that one dude at FOSDEM who paid us 2 Euros for a PPC DVD. That was awesome. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Mon May 19 07:31:44 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 09:31:44 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Bangladesh Fedora 9 Release Party : Report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations on the successful Fedora 9 Release Party! Your hard work and commitment to the Project are truly appreciated. --Max On Sat, 17 May 2008, mak wrote: > Dear all, > > We (Bangladesh) had our "Fedora Release Party", it was a great evening. > Yesterday more than 50 Fedora lovers joined the party. We had Imtiaz > Rahithe > first Bangladesh Fedora Ambassador within us, he conveyed the "Fedora > Community talk", it was so inspiring that all of attendee liked to join > Fedora project. After that Zaher a student from BUET > showed the new features of F9. He had to answer a > lot of questions regarding new features and about old bugs, thanks to Imtiaz > Rahi for helping him answering those geeky questions. > > It was hot, so we had to have those drinks in midst of the party, anyway > thanks to "our sponsor" "SweetHome" who gave us all the support. > iso-to-USB-key creation station was too busy, we are sorry that we couldn't > do all the USBs given to us. > > And of course, we've distributed free 100 Fedora 9 DVD, thanks to Jamil > Ahmedhe > downloaded F9 and burnt all the DVDs. > > No one noticed the blurry settings of the camera and all pictures were bit > dark. I'm going to upload those on Flickr anyway. > > At the end of the party everybody agreed to form "Fedora > Bangladesh" > group and opened a Yahoogroups, > Gulam Mustafa was appointed as the moderator. This is the part that > community itself ruled over. > > From mspevack at redhat.com Mon May 19 07:31:48 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 09:31:48 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questions In-Reply-To: <1211033313.3298.83.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> <4825383D.5070601@gmail.com> <482584AF.7090100@kanarip.com> <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1210454949.29786.24.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210456428.6516.85.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1211033313.3298.83.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: On Sat, 17 May 2008, Christoph Wickert wrote: > We have Ambassadors from all these countries and all these people will > have to pay the same amount of money. Do you really think you will be > able to attract members from Africa or the Middle East this way? I know that I keep chiming in on the side of this thread, but once again I must say that from my perspective as a Red Hat employee whose full-time job is to build community throughout EMEA, I am not at all interested in collecting any sorts of fees from people who are members of the Fedora community. When the idea of a Fedora EMEA e.V. was first proposed to me, the reason that I supported the idea was because it would be useful to have a legal entity, not Red Hat, that was organized and working to promote the mission of Fedora throughout EMEA. I think it is also an interesting experiment in community empowerment, and a good next step for the larger Fedora Project to try. Fedora EMEA e.V., if you ask *my opinion*, should be trying to raise money from third parties, and not from the current Fedora community. A peson does not need to be a "member" of Fedora EMEA e.V. to be a member of the Fedora community in Europe, Africa, Middle East, or anywhere. Again, I speak only for myself, and from the viewpoint of someone who is tasked with thinking about the overall health of the Fedora community in EMEA, and in also making sure that the financial situation of Fedora EMEA e.V., whatever that situation might be, is handled transparently for the community, the Fedora Board, and Red Hat to all make the most of it. --Max From engels at bluepoint.com.ph Mon May 19 08:29:44 2008 From: engels at bluepoint.com.ph (Engels Antonio) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 16:29:44 +0800 (PHT) Subject: [Ambassadors] F9 at Bluepoint Summer Geek Camp Message-ID: <10221.10.0.0.4.1211185784.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, This is a bit late, but it may still be of interest to some folks. Bluepoint Foundation and the Bluepoint Linux Users Elite (BLUE) conducted the first Summer Geek Camp (http://geekcamp.bluepoint.com.ph/) in Tagaytay and Batangas, Philippines a few days before F9 was released. One of the highlights of the camp was a preview of Sulphur, which proved to be pretty exciting for the delegates - everyone was looking forward to the release after learning about Fedora's new features. :) The camp was facilitated by PH Fedora Ambassadors Magie Antonio, Heherson Pagcaliwagan, and yours truly. ;) Regards, Engels - -- Engels Antonio Bluepoint Foundation http://bluepoint.com.ph/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIMTp4x5EDGnom4akRAtPnAJ9ygXHSmShr5vnMgCfZD//r+iXSBwCfaLIH ddIqA8Ji+4vlRHDDnvOd11I= =EJ3c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fab at fedoraproject.org Mon May 19 20:55:56 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 22:55:56 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAD LinuxTag - Country overviews Message-ID: <4831E95C.5080808@fedoraproject.org> Hi all, Next week will be the FAD LinuxTag [1] at Berlin. There are still some countries missing for the Country Overview (Netherlands, USA, and ? ) [2] and some are incomplete like Switzerland ;-) . Please add your own country (if missing) till Friday this week. During the weekend I will place all country details into some slides for next Tuesday. Thanks in advance. Kind regards, Fabian [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADLinuxTag2008 [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADLinuxTag2008/CountryOverview From karlie_robinson at webpath.net Mon May 19 22:56:18 2008 From: karlie_robinson at webpath.net (Karlie Robinson) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 18:56:18 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora at the library Message-ID: <48320592.1030204@webpath.net> Hello all. I've got a little pet project over at http://publicsoftwarefoundation.org and the goal is to get FLOSS on the shelves of libraries so that software can be checked out like a book. Well we had a write up [1] that netted a $500 donation and I would like to ask that you help me put the money to good use. If you know of any libraries that would like a copy of Fedora or our other PSF titles for their patrons to use, please let me know. You can email me off list or you can post a request to the PSF Forums [2] under Library Requests. Thanks for all your help, Karlie [1] http://www.linux.com/feature/134393 [2] http://publicsoftwarefoundation.org/forum/ From danishka at gmail.com Tue May 20 11:54:58 2008 From: danishka at gmail.com (Danishka Navin) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 17:24:58 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Express Fedora installation Message-ID: Hi Guys, As we all know now we have set of customized Fedora spins. I want to convert my F9-si-iso image as a Silent/ Express Fedora installation media. What we can find in the RHEL exams, the CD start installing the stuff it includes without asking any information. We don't want to teach much to technical buddies @ computer shops, they can just use the CD/DVD. Do we have any existing scripts for this work? Hope you people will help me. :) I'm planning to create a Express Fedora 9 installation CD/DVD and giving to few vendors, as the Sri Lankan LAW is working against the pirated SW. I hope we can use this as a better solution to fight with pre-installed WINDOZ and better distribution for Fedora. Regards, -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com (use Sinhala Unicode fonts) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you have any questions feel free to contact me off-list. > Hope you people will help me. :) > > I'm planning to create a Express Fedora 9 installation CD/DVD and giving > to few vendors, > as the Sri Lankan LAW is working against the pirated SW. We have a proposed feature for Fedora 10 which needs feedback on what exactly a OEM install for Fedora should look like (someone was supposed to send me a little something but I haven't received anything yet): http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OEMInstall This would also be included in the Kickstart Pool at http://fedorahosted.org/spin-kickstarts Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From danishka at gmail.com Tue May 20 12:34:03 2008 From: danishka at gmail.com (Danishka Navin) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 18:04:03 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Express Fedora installation In-Reply-To: <4832C108.90303@kanarip.com> References: <4832C108.90303@kanarip.com> Message-ID: On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Danishka Navin wrote: > >> Hi Guys, >> >> >> As we all know now we have set of customized Fedora spins. >> I want to convert my F9-si-iso image as a Silent/ Express Fedora >> installation media. >> What we can find in the RHEL exams, the CD start installing the stuff it >> includes without asking any information. >> We don't want to teach much to technical buddies @ computer shops, they >> can just use the CD/DVD. >> Do we have any existing scripts for this work? >> > > Take a look at Revisor. > > Create a kickstart file (with system-config-kickstart) which you think has > the best settings and packages, then (on the command-line) specify > "--kickstart-include" and "--kickstart-default", or check the appropriate > boxes in the GUI. > > If you have any questions feel free to contact me off-list. > > Hope you people will help me. :) >> >> I'm planning to create a Express Fedora 9 installation CD/DVD and giving >> to few vendors, >> as the Sri Lankan LAW is working against the pirated SW. >> > > We have a proposed feature for Fedora 10 which needs feedback on what > exactly a OEM install for Fedora should look like (someone was supposed to > send me a little something but I haven't received anything yet): > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OEMInstall > > This would also be included in the Kickstart Pool at > http://fedorahosted.org/spin-kickstarts > Thanks buddy, will contact you :) > > Kind regards, > > Jeroen van Meeuwen > -kanarip > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com (use Sinhala Unicode fonts) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Also, we're planning an integration evening after the event ;) If any of you is interested in coming, please contact me, I will be glad to help you, and of course, I'd be delighted to see some international Fedora community members there :) More detailed information together with the agenda is available at the event's page: http://fod.org.pl. Regards, Pawel From gvarisco at redhat.com Tue May 20 19:33:16 2008 From: gvarisco at redhat.com (Gianluca Varisco) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 21:33:16 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Toronto F9 Release Party report In-Reply-To: <20080520145451.GB22594@redhat.com> References: <20080520145451.GB22594@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4833277C.5070400@redhat.com> Andrew Overholt wrote: > Hi, > > We had a very successful release party last week here in Toronto. I > wrote up a little report and put some pictures on my blog: > > http://overholt.ca/wp/?p=105 > > Over the course of the night we probably had 20+ people which I was > really happy with. It was a great day and the Linux Caffe was busy so > we even attracted some regular customers and some members of the > Wireless Nomad group to come over and ask what was up with Fedora and > get some media. > > I can't think of anything we could have done better except maybe have > had a more polished little presentation. I was really impressed with > the enthusiasm of the attendees and we'll *definitely* have to do > another one in 6 months. > > Andrew Hi Andrew, Thanks for you report and all your efforts: Well done! ;-) Take care. Cheers, -- Gianluca Varisco, RHCE Intern - Web Engineering, Red Hat Italia Tel.: +39 02 5681 4487 Fax : +39 02 669 3111 Cel.: +39 333 574 0934 Address/Indirizzo: Via Antonio Da Recanate 1 20124 Milano From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue May 20 19:51:46 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 21:51:46 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Toronto F9 Release Party report In-Reply-To: <20080520145451.GB22594@redhat.com> References: <20080520145451.GB22594@redhat.com> Message-ID: 2008/5/20 Andrew Overholt : > Hi, > > We had a very successful release party last week here in Toronto. I > wrote up a little report and put some pictures on my blog: > > http://overholt.ca/wp/?p=105 > > Over the course of the night we probably had 20+ people which I was > really happy with. It was a great day and the Linux Caffe was busy so > we even attracted some regular customers and some members of the > Wireless Nomad group to come over and ask what was up with Fedora and > get some media. > > I can't think of anything we could have done better except maybe have > had a more polished little presentation. I was really impressed with > the enthusiasm of the attendees and we'll *definitely* have to do > another one in 6 months. > > Andrew > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Great report and great event! Thank you Francesco From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Wed May 21 07:17:29 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 09:17:29 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Lost in translation (Ubuntu and Launchpad translations) Message-ID: <64b14b300805210017je0d2e34jcc856a7f2bd9fea3@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I have came a cross an issue that I didn't see discussed in this mailing list, but if there was such a discussion before please point me to it. First I have noticed that in previous and latest Ubuntu release that Gnome translation is much better that I see in Fedora 8 and 9. I wondered why and contacted croatian gnome translation team. The reason is that they use Ubuntu Launchpad to do the translations and so all translation are not automatically pushed to upstream gnome. I feel that this is broken by design. There are options to export translations from Lauchpad and we are working on getting them to upstream Gnome right now. I can only guess but I suspect that our translation team is not the only one caught in this "lost in translation" Lauchpad trap. There are probably lots of translation teams around the world using launchpad to do their translations. So my questions is - has there been any talk with Ubuntu developers and translators regarding this? Do you think this is an issue? Why? How is translation in Fedora handling translation and upstream? Thank you for your time, Valent, croatian Fedora Ambassador. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From gerold at lugd.org Wed May 21 07:31:05 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 09:31:05 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Lost in translation (Ubuntu and Launchpad translations) In-Reply-To: <64b14b300805210017je0d2e34jcc856a7f2bd9fea3@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300805210017je0d2e34jcc856a7f2bd9fea3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1255.62.2.77.2.1211355065.squirrel@www.gbc.net> /me points Valent to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Transifex and also to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DimitrisGlezos :-) > Hi, > I have came a cross an issue that I didn't see discussed in this > mailing list, but if there was such a discussion before please point > me to it. > > First I have noticed that in previous and latest Ubuntu release that > Gnome translation is much better that I see in Fedora 8 and 9. I > wondered why and contacted croatian gnome translation team. The reason > is that they use Ubuntu Launchpad to do the translations and so all > translation are not automatically pushed to upstream gnome. > > I feel that this is broken by design. There are options to export > translations from Lauchpad and we are working on getting them to > upstream Gnome right now. I can only guess but I suspect that our > translation team is not the only one caught in this "lost in > translation" Lauchpad trap. There are probably lots of translation > teams around the world using launchpad to do their translations. > > So my questions is - has there been any talk with Ubuntu developers > and translators regarding this? Do you think this is an issue? Why? > > How is translation in Fedora handling translation and upstream? > > Thank you for your time, > Valent, croatian Fedora Ambassador. > > -- > http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ > linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless > registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. > ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed May 21 07:34:16 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 13:04:16 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Lost in translation (Ubuntu and Launchpad translations) In-Reply-To: <64b14b300805210017je0d2e34jcc856a7f2bd9fea3@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300805210017je0d2e34jcc856a7f2bd9fea3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4833D078.7060902@fedoraproject.org> Valent Turkovic wrote: > Hi, > I have came a cross an issue that I didn't see discussed in this > mailing list, but if there was such a discussion before please point > me to it. > > First I have noticed that in previous and latest Ubuntu release that > Gnome translation is much better that I see in Fedora 8 and 9. I > wondered why and contacted croatian gnome translation team. The reason > is that they use Ubuntu Launchpad to do the translations and so all > translation are not automatically pushed to upstream gnome. > > I feel that this is broken by design. Yes it is and they are already aware of this issue and don't seem to have done anything about it. Refer rosetta list discussions for more details. > > How is translation in Fedora handling translation and upstream? The Fedora translation system differs in two important ways 1) Fedora does not rely on or use a proprietary service anywhere including for translations. http://transifex.org being developed within the Fedora Project is completely open and does the job just as well. 2) More importantly, transifex does not maintain private forks and follows the upstream first mantra just like the rest of Fedora. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WhyUpstream Rahul From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Wed May 21 10:19:08 2008 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 12:19:08 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Lost in translation (Ubuntu and Launchpad translations) In-Reply-To: <64b14b300805210017je0d2e34jcc856a7f2bd9fea3@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300805210017je0d2e34jcc856a7f2bd9fea3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1211365148.3122.28.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Mittwoch, den 21.05.2008, 09:17 +0200 schrieb Valent Turkovic: > Hi, > I have came a cross an issue that I didn't see discussed in this > mailing list, but if there was such a discussion before please point > me to it. > > First I have noticed that in previous and latest Ubuntu release that > Gnome translation is much better that I see in Fedora 8 and 9. I assume you mean the translations are much worse than in Fedora. Ubuntu's are inconsistent and do not honor upstream's work, and this was lamented several times, for example in http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/125/ . In fact they even break the Gnome Translation rules, at least this is known for the German translations. See http://live.gnome.org/de/UebersetzungsRichtlinien (if you speak german ;)) and compare this to what Ubuntu made. As you might know Hendrik Richter, the coordinator of the German Gnome Translation left Ubuntu and joined Fedora Trans Team recently, see https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-de/2008-April/msg00003.html (unfortunately it's in German too) > I > wondered why and contacted croatian gnome translation team. The reason > is that they use Ubuntu Launchpad to do the translations and so all > translation are not automatically pushed to upstream gnome. > > I feel that this is broken by design. There are options to export > translations from Lauchpad and we are working on getting them to > upstream Gnome right now. I can only guess but I suspect that our > translation team is not the only one caught in this "lost in > translation" Lauchpad trap. There are probably lots of translation > teams around the world using launchpad to do their translations. Nope. AFAIK Ubuntu are the only one. > So my questions is - has there been any talk with Ubuntu developers > and translators regarding this? Do you think this is an issue? Why? No, at least it is not our issue. If Ubuntu wants use translations that are different from the rest of distros that are so bad that they don't make it upstream, it's definitely not Fedora's issue. ;) > How is translation in Fedora handling translation and upstream? Fedora uses transifex. Most of the time we use upstream's translations but for apps that are developed on/for Fedora we are upstream. For more information you should probably ask fedora-trans-list I think. > > Thank you for your time, > Valent, croatian Fedora Ambassador. Christoph Wickert From dimitris at glezos.com Wed May 21 10:20:49 2008 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 13:20:49 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Recap from Fedora 9 Release party Greece Message-ID: <6d4237680805210320h5f4b306av952e165214afad1b@mail.gmail.com> Quoting from http://dimitris.glezos.com/weblog/2008/05/20/f9-party-recap/: * 40-50 people from Patras, neighbouring towns, Athens, and one from the 800-km-away city of Serres * 3 hours of discussions and fun * ? hour analysis of the new features of Fedora 9 * 12 Fedora 9 Live USB sticks * 60 Fedora sticker sheets * 30 polo shirts, locally designed and printed * 3-hour long Greek party afterwards with ouzo, good food, and lots of fun Photos at http://dimitris.glezos.com/photos/events/f9-party Attendees asked me to thank Fedora for buying the drinks. :-) -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." 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Sounds like another great release party! ~Jeffrey From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Wed May 21 13:00:41 2008 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 15:00:41 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag, Fedora 9 DVDs & FOD Message-ID: <1211374841.25336.27.camel@redhat> Hello, I have a question about Fedora 9 DVDs for our event in Poland. Yesterday I sent an e-mail about incoming Fedora and Red Hat Open Day which will be held just after LinuxTag. I have a question/request for the guys responsible for swag during LinuxTag: is it possible to leave me something about 100 Fedora 9 DVDs which I could use for FOD? Firstly, we wanted to make it on our own, but if there's LinuxTag almost in the same time, I think it might be a more reasonable solution to take some DVDs from there. I suppose not all disks will be sold during LinuxTag, so could I have some for FOD, please? ;) Cheers, Pawel From mspevack at redhat.com Wed May 21 13:37:55 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 15:37:55 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] the end of our Q1 budget Message-ID: Hi Ambassadors, What an incredible quarter it has been -- for worldwide Fedora events, including large events in Brazil and Berlin, we have spent almost $50,000 USD, and by the end of the quarter we will have run over 30 events. More importantly, the events have produced excellent reports, and brought a number of new people into the Project. I see names on Fedora Planet and on the Ambassadors list that I don't recognize, which is wonderful. We're in the last week of the quarter, from a Red Hat finance point of view. I've been pretty good about getting everything taken care of, but if you were promised funding for an event that took place in March, April, or May, and you haven't been reimbursed yet, please get in touch with me as soon as possible, and put something like "BUDGET" in the subject line in big letters. I hope to use Thursday to get all of the final details of our budget for this quarter taken care of. Rodrigo -- you don't need to email me. Greg and I are taking care of you already. :) Thanks, Max From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed May 21 14:40:28 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 16:40:28 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] the end of our Q1 budget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/5/21 Max Spevack : > Hi Ambassadors, > > What an incredible quarter it has been -- for worldwide Fedora events, > including large events in Brazil and Berlin, we have spent almost $50,000 > USD, and by the end of the quarter we will have run over 30 events. > > More importantly, the events have produced excellent reports, and brought a > number of new people into the Project. I see names on Fedora Planet and on > the Ambassadors list that I don't recognize, which is wonderful. > > We're in the last week of the quarter, from a Red Hat finance point of view. > I've been pretty good about getting everything taken care of, but if you > were promised funding for an event that took place in March, April, or May, > and you haven't been reimbursed yet, please get in touch with me as soon as > possible, and put something like "BUDGET" in the subject line in big > letters. > > I hope to use Thursday to get all of the final details of our budget for > this quarter taken care of. > > Rodrigo -- you don't need to email me. Greg and I are taking care of you > already. :) > > Thanks, > Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Absolutely, I agree with you! Thank Max and thank to all Ambassadors! Francesco From romal at fedoraproject.org Wed May 21 15:56:41 2008 From: romal at fedoraproject.org (Robert M. Albrecht) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 17:56:41 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] For German speaking Ambassadors Message-ID: <48344639.4070704@gmail.com> Hi, I have a workshop on Linuxtag (45 minutes, introduction into buildung RPMs) and would be glad, if someone would review my slides. www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.pdf www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.odp Any errors found ? Suggestions ? Improvements ? Thanks. cu romal www.romal.de blog.romal.de From luca at foppiano.org Wed May 21 16:12:58 2008 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 18:12:58 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] For German speaking Ambassadors In-Reply-To: <48344639.4070704@gmail.com> References: <48344639.4070704@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1211386378.3455.46.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 17:56 +0200, Robert M. Albrecht wrote: > Hi, > > I have a workshop on Linuxtag (45 minutes, introduction into buildung RPMs) > and would be glad, if someone would review my slides. > > www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.pdf > www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.odp > > Any errors found ? Suggestions ? Improvements ? I don't know German, as far as I understand it seems good :) I love photos used to change topic. :) After linuxtag, can you provide also a English version? ;-) Luca -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 68th day of Discord in the YOLD 3174 Fear is the greatest salesman. -- Robert Klein From romal at fedoraproject.org Wed May 21 17:11:12 2008 From: romal at fedoraproject.org (Robert M. Albrecht) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 19:11:12 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] For German speaking Ambassadors In-Reply-To: <1211386378.3455.46.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> References: <48344639.4070704@gmail.com> <1211386378.3455.46.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> Message-ID: <483457B0.90206@gmail.com> Hi, a quick translation, may be bad english, but should be readable: http://www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.pdf http://www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.odp cu romal www.romal.de blog.romal.de Luca Foppiano schrieb: > On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 17:56 +0200, Robert M. Albrecht wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have a workshop on Linuxtag (45 minutes, introduction into buildung RPMs) >> and would be glad, if someone would review my slides. >> >> www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.pdf >> www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.odp >> >> Any errors found ? Suggestions ? Improvements ? > > I don't know German, as far as I understand it seems good :) > I love photos used to change topic. :) > > After linuxtag, can you provide also a English version? ;-) > > Luca From romal at fedoraproject.org Wed May 21 17:25:00 2008 From: romal at fedoraproject.org (Robert M. Albrecht) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 19:25:00 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linuxtag slides: now in english & german In-Reply-To: <483457B0.90206@gmail.com> References: <48344639.4070704@gmail.com> <1211386378.3455.46.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> <483457B0.90206@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48345AEC.8050901@gmail.com> Hi, sorry, I forgot to change the subject, so non-german speakers could miss them. cu romal www.romal.de blog.romal.de Robert M. Albrecht schrieb: > Hi, > > a quick translation, may be bad english, but should be readable: > > http://www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.pdf > http://www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.odp > > cu romal > > www.romal.de > blog.romal.de > > > Luca Foppiano schrieb: >> On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 17:56 +0200, Robert M. Albrecht wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have a workshop on Linuxtag (45 minutes, introduction into buildung >>> RPMs) and would be glad, if someone would review my slides. >>> >>> www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.pdf >>> www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.odp >>> >>> Any errors found ? Suggestions ? Improvements ? >> >> I don't know German, as far as I understand it seems good :) >> I love photos used to change topic. :) >> >> After linuxtag, can you provide also a English version? ;-) >> >> Luca > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Wed May 21 18:05:30 2008 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 20:05:30 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] For German speaking Ambassadors In-Reply-To: <48344639.4070704@gmail.com> References: <48344639.4070704@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1211393130.3009.14.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Mittwoch, den 21.05.2008, 17:56 +0200 schrieb Robert M. Albrecht: > Hi, > > I have a workshop on Linuxtag (45 minutes, introduction into buildung RPMs) > and would be glad, if someone would review my slides. > > www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.pdf > www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.odp > > Any errors found ? Suggestions ? Improvements ? Slide 8: Not sure if "cp -a /usr/src/redhat/ rpmbuild" is a good idea. What if there are already files in ?/usr/src/redhat? I suggest using rpmdev-setuptree. Also you should mention redhat-rpm-config and rpmdevtools packages. Slide 15: Instead of cp README* $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/share/doc/%{name}-%{version} cp COPYING $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/share/doc/%{name}-%{version} you should simply use %doc README* COPYING And if you use "cp", you should use it with the -p switch to preserve timestamps and avoid multilib fun. Slide 19: You should also mention "rpmbuild -ba". Sile 26: No need to wait for a new release, you can also get your package into a release as an update. > Thanks. The rest of the presentation looks good to me. Well done! > > cu romal Christoph From aacosta at fedoraproject.org Wed May 21 19:32:25 2008 From: aacosta at fedoraproject.org (Alejandro Acosta) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 13:32:25 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] New ambassador in Chihuaua MEXICO Message-ID: <6ad0ab20805211232v3541aba7k4f43753a47e4b0c4@mail.gmail.com> Hello ambassador folks I've recently joined the project and I've just been confirmed. I don't expect everyone to reply this communication but I just wanted to let you guys know that I'm around and willing to work hard for the project in my community. Since I'm new in this project, I have a lot of questions and I may bother you later with some of them. For those of you wondering "Where's Chihuahua and does that really exist?" (lol) , it is the biggest State in Mexico located in the North part of the country and it is part of the border with the US. I'm catching up with the meeting minutes and generally with all the documentation but please let me know if there are things I should know in order to start the quickest possible, as for instance the date and time for the next meeting will be a good thing to be warned of. Regards Alejandro Acosta From aacosta at fedoraproject.org Wed May 21 19:33:46 2008 From: aacosta at fedoraproject.org (Alejandro Acosta) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 13:33:46 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] For German speaking Ambassadors Message-ID: <6ad0ab20805211233m2bc7ee3aj1b6e9ee8afeef2d1@mail.gmail.com> Same as Luca Foppiano, I don't speak German but I think the slides are very well designed to keep the attention of the participants. I also believe the work art you employed is fantastic Good luck! On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 17:56 +0200, Robert M. Albrecht wrote: > Hi, > > I have a workshop on Linuxtag (45 minutes, introduction into buildung RPMs) > and would be glad, if someone would review my slides. > > www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.pdf > www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.odp > > Any errors found ? Suggestions ? Improvements ? > > Thanks. > > cu romal > > www.romal.de > blog.romal.de > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Wed May 21 19:48:13 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 21:48:13 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] For German speaking Ambassadors In-Reply-To: <6ad0ab20805211233m2bc7ee3aj1b6e9ee8afeef2d1@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ad0ab20805211233m2bc7ee3aj1b6e9ee8afeef2d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200805212148.19932.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Mittwoch, 21. Mai 2008 21:33:46 schrieb Alejandro Acosta: > Same as Luca Foppiano, I don't speak German but I think the slides are > very well designed to keep the attention of the participants. > I also believe the work art you employed is fantastic I love the artwork of this presentation - thanks to Chitlesh who put together this pictures from diana fong ;-) in a presentation! And thanks Robert to give this idea a new life! -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. 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Rodriguez) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 15:02:28 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] New ambassador in Chihuaua MEXICO In-Reply-To: References: <6ad0ab20805211232v3541aba7k4f43753a47e4b0c4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/5/21 mak : > 2008/5/22 Alejandro Acosta : > >> Hello ambassador folks >> I've recently joined the project and I've just been confirmed. I don't >> expect everyone to reply this communication but I just wanted to let you >> guys know that I'm around and willing to work hard for the project in my >> community. > > > Hello, welcome. :) > > > -- > Regards > Mahay Alam Khan > Fedora Ambassador > Bangladesh. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Welcome and Congrats on joining! Being from the northern part of Mexico myself, I'm glad we've got another ambassador to help me out! :P Welcome again! -- Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdk at redhat.com Wed May 21 20:13:34 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 16:13:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] New ambassador in Chihuaua MEXICO In-Reply-To: <6ad0ab20805211232v3541aba7k4f43753a47e4b0c4@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ad0ab20805211232v3541aba7k4f43753a47e4b0c4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Welcome, Alejandro! --g On Wed, 21 May 2008, Alejandro Acosta wrote: > Hello ambassador folks > > I've recently joined the project and I've just been confirmed. I don't > expect everyone to reply this communication but I just wanted to let you > guys know that I'm around and willing to work hard for the project in my > community. > > Since I'm new in this project, I have a lot of questions and I may > bother you later with some of them. > > For those of you wondering "Where's Chihuahua and does that really > exist?" (lol) , it is the biggest State in Mexico located in the North > part of the country and it is part of the border with the US. > > I'm catching up with the meeting minutes and generally with all the > documentation but please let me know if there are things I should know > in order to start the quickest possible, as for instance the date and > time for the next meeting will be a good thing to be warned of. > > Regards > Alejandro Acosta > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From romal at fedoraproject.org Wed May 21 20:40:28 2008 From: romal at fedoraproject.org (Robert M. Albrecht) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 22:40:28 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linuxtag slides: now in english & german In-Reply-To: <48345AEC.8050901@gmail.com> References: <48344639.4070704@gmail.com> <1211386378.3455.46.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> <483457B0.90206@gmail.com> <48345AEC.8050901@gmail.com> Message-ID: <483488BC.5030104@gmail.com> Hi, thanks for the feedback. Version 2 is online, including the english translation. www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.pdf www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.odp www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.pdf www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.odp More suggestions ? cu romal www.romal.de blog.romal.de Robert M. Albrecht schrieb: > Hi, > > sorry, I forgot to change the subject, so non-german speakers could miss > them. > > cu romal > > www.romal.de > blog.romal.de > > > Robert M. Albrecht schrieb: >> Hi, >> >> a quick translation, may be bad english, but should be readable: >> >> http://www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.pdf >> http://www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.odp >> >> cu romal >> >> www.romal.de >> blog.romal.de >> >> >> Luca Foppiano schrieb: >>> On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 17:56 +0200, Robert M. Albrecht wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have a workshop on Linuxtag (45 minutes, introduction into >>>> buildung RPMs) and would be glad, if someone would review my slides. >>>> >>>> www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.pdf >>>> www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.odp >>>> >>>> Any errors found ? Suggestions ? Improvements ? >>> >>> I don't know German, as far as I understand it seems good :) >>> I love photos used to change topic. :) >>> >>> After linuxtag, can you provide also a English version? ;-) >>> >>> Luca >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From luca at foppiano.org Wed May 21 20:54:33 2008 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 22:54:33 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linuxtag slides: now in english & german In-Reply-To: <483488BC.5030104@gmail.com> References: <48344639.4070704@gmail.com> <1211386378.3455.46.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> <483457B0.90206@gmail.com> <48345AEC.8050901@gmail.com> <483488BC.5030104@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1211403273.3362.33.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 22:40 +0200, Robert M. Albrecht wrote: > Hi, > > thanks for the feedback. > > Version 2 is online, including the english translation. > > www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.pdf > www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.odp > www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.pdf > www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.odp > > More suggestions ? Just a few short things on translation: * slide 7 "Don 't build packets als Root !" -> "Don't build packets as root!" * slide 13 "Hot to install ?" -> "How to install ?" * slide 18 "If rpmlint finds any problems, they must be repaired." -> "If rpmlint finds any problems, you should fix it." Your presentation is IMHO really good... I love your template ;-) Luca -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 68th day of Discord in the YOLD 3174 As a goatherd learns his trade by goat, so a writer learns his trade by wrote. From jkeating at redhat.com Wed May 21 21:01:28 2008 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 17:01:28 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linuxtag slides: now in english & german In-Reply-To: <1211403273.3362.33.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> References: <48344639.4070704@gmail.com> <1211386378.3455.46.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> <483457B0.90206@gmail.com> <48345AEC.8050901@gmail.com> <483488BC.5030104@gmail.com> <1211403273.3362.33.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> Message-ID: <1211403688.29698.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 22:54 +0200, Luca Foppiano wrote: > * slide 7 "Don 't build packets als Root !" -> "Don't build packets as > root!" Wouldn't this be "packages" not "packets" ? -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From luca at foppiano.org Wed May 21 21:04:11 2008 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 23:04:11 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linuxtag slides: now in english & german In-Reply-To: <1211403688.29698.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <48344639.4070704@gmail.com> <1211386378.3455.46.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> <483457B0.90206@gmail.com> <48345AEC.8050901@gmail.com> <483488BC.5030104@gmail.com> <1211403273.3362.33.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> <1211403688.29698.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1211403851.3362.35.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 17:01 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 22:54 +0200, Luca Foppiano wrote: > > * slide 7 "Don 't build packets als Root !" -> "Don't build packets as > > root!" > > Wouldn't this be "packages" not "packets" ? yes, is better "packages" :) in my reply I want to correct "als" with "as" ;-) Luca -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 68th day of Discord in the YOLD 3174 I don't wish to appear overly inquisitive, but are you still alive? From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Wed May 21 21:24:22 2008 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 23:24:22 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Linuxtag slides: now in english & german In-Reply-To: <483488BC.5030104@gmail.com> References: <48344639.4070704@gmail.com> <1211386378.3455.46.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> <483457B0.90206@gmail.com> <48345AEC.8050901@gmail.com> <483488BC.5030104@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1211405062.3009.29.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Mittwoch, den 21.05.2008, 22:40 +0200 schrieb Robert M. Albrecht: > Hi, > > thanks for the feedback. > > Version 2 is online, including the english translation. > > www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.pdf > www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipateEnglish.odp > www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.pdf > www.romal.de/files/FedoraHowToParticipate.odp > > More suggestions ? Looks like you took all my suggestions into account, thanks. One last thing: Slide 15: You are hardcoding the prefix /usr in the install section. Instead of %install rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT mkdir -p $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/bin mkdir -p $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/share/doc/%{name}-%{version} mkdir $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/etc cp -p usb_modeswitch $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/bin cp -p usb_modeswitch.conf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/etc %doc README* COPYING I suggest: %install ??rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT mkdir -p $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_bindir} mkdir $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_sysconfdir} install -p -m 755 usb_modeswitch $RPM_BUILD_ROOT?%{_bindir}/ install -p -m 644 usb_modeswitch.conf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT?%{_sysconfdir}/ I'm also using 'install' instead of 'cp' to make sure permissions are correct. ?No need for "%doc README* COPYING" in %install, this belongs into the %files section where it needs to replace the empty %doc statement. RPM will care about creating the docdir and installing the docs. > cu romal > C U @ Berlin Christoph From fab at fedoraproject.org Wed May 21 21:46:32 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 23:46:32 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo Meeting - IRC Log 2008-05-21 Message-ID: <48349838.4060804@fedoraproject.org> HTML version of the log is here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings/2008-05-21 Raw log is here: 1. 2nd Quarter Budget (see Jeffrey mail and sheet) 2. Release events status (+ RE contest) 3. Ambassadors Project status 4. Rules and more (just a reminder for everyone at FAmSCo) 5. Wiki migration 6. t.b.d. I can cover budget, if people want. do we want to start now? +1 +1 let's go ok...where is Rodrigo? iWolf: please start with budget Okay.... Max updated the spreadsheet i created earlier in the week, we come in just under the $12,000 USD. Everyone should have the spreadsheet in the email Max sent. i'm here! Everything on it looks good to me, I think we (famsco) just need to approve it, or make comments/suggest changes. Since we are missing the chair, we might want to do a mailing list vote? Questions? Comments? eof ! yesterday i talk with the LATAM group probably we will have new events do add in this spreadsheet but... probably... so, we can vote now Has everyone had a chance to look at the new spreadsheet? eof yes for me i find it good, however i don't know where Max will find the money for the livecd i asked for i'm really sorry but the train had a 2h of delay i'm just arrived at home no pb fugolini we started 10 min ago fugolini: no worries, fabian_a was just getting us started - covering budget now ok, let me go to refresh my face MrTom: were they going to get you some media from the LinuxTag leftovers? I don't think so hhmm, is this for your release party? but i'm not sure as well that max gave the final approval about it for the release party and for Mont de Marsant in fact fabian_a: you can continue leading the meeting MrTom: ah, we have $1000USD set aside for the Mont De Marsant in the spreadsheet. Will that help? yes, but half of it would get lost in the live cd fugolini: we just go through the agenda point by point...there is not much to lead i hope, i'll wait for Max thoughts about it because he talked about extras $500 for them, then I don't really know MrTom: sounds good, there is a little bit extra in the budget, maybe spread it across what we have allocated for you now, coupled with leftovers from LinuTag, etc. yes iWolf: +1 So, are people comfortable voting on teh most recent budget Max posted this morning? I don't want to rush it, but I also want to clear it off the plate if people are in agreement. Looks good to me as well for me for me too +1 +1 from me +1 too Great! So Q2 budget is approved. That should be it on the budget agenda for this week then. fabian_a: back to you. ok, point 2: release events status and contest I guess that's me again.... :) We've been seeing lots of event reports, sounds like there have been some good events going on and lots of coverage. the contest ends next Tuesday. After that, I will compile a list of report links and mail the famsco list for discussion on who we award the laptop bag to. eof ok ! i'm organizing the Brazilian Release Party to the next week, where im thinking to create the Rio de Janeiro Fedora LUG may i? i will use this party to recruit new colaborators and members to the local user group eof Just a thing ... All the release events just done had great reports and, as i could see, they were sucessfully there are others so far, and i'm sure they will be sucessfull what i want to say, is that we need to store all the knoledge from this first expereince to improve the next Release Events, maybe sharing with marketing project our ideas etc. to have a more deep media cover i think they could be another way to have a contact with people and it could became a milestone for the future eof ! i think you can talk My impression is that the press coverage was pretty good for this release with many positive articles jmbuser: sorry I also noticed that local events were also covered by their local newspapers This is great publicity eof http://punto-informatico.it/p.aspx?id=2295086 --> this is an example :) i'm saying this because i see how far marketing project is going i think it could be a helpfull hand, yes, i think people worked and are working great, without doubtr eof are we done with release events status? fabian_a: i am. yes yes ok, next point. Ambassadors Project status ! fugolini, thank you We are near the end of the first warter and i want to ask FAmSCo to express what they think it's necessary to improve in the community max suggested to work on Apac and i think he was right, but i hope you'll give me more infos Apac ?? what you think we and i miss and what we could improve RodrigoPadula: why? what is Apac ? APAC = Asia Pacific ohh sorry sorry, i didn't understand just all i hope this discussion could start here and could continue in the list eof ! RodrigoPadula, i think not only APAC.. but CARIBEAN, and many other regions where the number of ambassors is litle for me, we need to see in the ambassadors list where we need to improve the project for me .. the first step is recruit ambassadors in this areas im doing it in Brazil and others countries in latin america eof ! i just wrote an email asking people feedbacks, if you desire an explicit mail i could write it. just tell me i think that we need to work in every region because a lot of idle or inactive ambassadors in the country list doesn't reflect a big community fabian_a: +1 it's other problem! one problem is: we dont have ambassadors IMHO, every member of famsco should work in his area and give a hand to apac i think, meanwhile, we have to give a reason to people to work (and to recruit new ones) other problem is : we have but they dont work! in my opnion.. some ambassador need to be fired hehehe no, nobody was hired so nobody could be fired fugolini: +1 +1 we have to give them a reason to work...as an ambassadors you are not an employee ;-) i think we could invite people with any kind of activities e.g. Release Party are a simple way to tell people: you can enjoy yourself spreading the Fedora voice many people join us to see names on the list as ambassadors i have another vision of the Ambassadors Project RodrigoPadula: probably you are right, but i think we have to see the other side of the glass (not the empty one) if we have great ambassador... it's sounds good to the project but names in the list.. not sounds goog good but we have great ambassadors, and i can tell you the names, (you see them in the list, in the planet, in the real life meeting etc) yes RodrigoPadula: this is a cons of a community made by volunteers i thinks it's 10% of all ambassadors for you what is a volunteer ? not in the military sense we have some ghosts on the ambassadors list ! but ?if you close the door, people whould be scared Southern_Gentlem: osp sorry fabian_a i forget RodrigoPadula, people volunteer to give their time, sometimes people need to be guided to the next tasks, or they get bored no... i'm not talking to close the door and there has been talk of clearing out the ambassadors list before and it ticked alot of the good ambassador off eof we have some ghosts but we are maybe able to bring this ghosts back to live Southern_Gentlem: +1 here in brazil we have many volunteers, when this volunteer is working frequently i invite this to the project ! if the e-mail addresses still are valid ;-) Southern_Gentlem, fabian_a: +1 :) the problem is... the local project not is the first contact in your contries RodrigoPadula, please use meeting protocol sorry! eof i am Fedora ambassador for this area did i have a release party for f9 no because my college is on Summer break, this fall i will be involved with my local lug to have a release party for f10 eof ! RodrigoPadula, ??in brazil... we are the interface between the Fedora Project and the community so, we recruit collaborators and guide this ambassadors to contribute with the projects when a collaborator work constantly i invite this to the ambassadors project so, in the ambassadors list we have only active ambassors 90% the local project need to copy this model! ! to drive and guide the local community to work and represent the fedora locally eof the problem is that, here, we haven't sign any contract or any kind of obligation with fedora project, because fedora project is not an association nor a company. It's a group of people that give freely without any duty their time Southern_Gentlem, i agree.. but the local projects need to guide your local members! RodrigoPadula, i understand what you are staying, but are you saying because i am not living and breathing Fedora every minute of every day i am not an active ambassadar? i for one have a lot of college students who are getting interested in helping with fedora,, but the majority do not have the spare time eof Southern_Gentlem: yep :) RodrigoPadula: have you a proposal to make now or in the next day (trought the list) ? yes now? on the list later * iWolf is running out of time perfect, i think it could improve the discussion iWolf: i agree with you (i have to eat, cleat etc.) :) laters i suggest to skip the last points +1 +1 +1 yes ok anything else for today? not from me. not meeting has been adjourned... From esteban.fedora at gmail.com Thu May 22 01:06:45 2008 From: esteban.fedora at gmail.com (esteban@fedoraproject.org) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 03:06:45 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] New Ambassador in Paraguay Message-ID: Free Greetings Partners. I am the newest ambassador of the Fedora Project, here in my country Paraguay. We will be active and fostering digital inclusion and Free Software through the Fedora Project here. Since already thank you very much Rodrigo and Thomas who were excellent in their support for my inclusion here. A big hug and see you later. Att Esteban Baez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Thu May 22 02:52:18 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 08:22:18 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... Message-ID: Hi all, * This is for increasing Fedora Media's availability in India. * Please note, you need not spend _any_ money. * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your busy schedule, please list your name here.[1] * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as and when your time permits. All you need is to burn the CD/DVD. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ============================================= From glaksmono at fedoraproject.org Thu May 22 04:55:15 2008 From: glaksmono at fedoraproject.org (Grady Laksmono) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 21:55:15 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] FC9: Input Signal Out of Range Message-ID: Hi all, I'm getting this for some reason when it's trying to load.. I just did an update from FC8... does anybody have similar problem? FC8 had a little problem with the widescreen monitor, but didn't give me this thing. It's not an error message from the OS but it seems that my monitor is not working well with FC9..? I could do CTRL + ALT + F1 to get into the console though... Is this because of the new KDE..? 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It's amazing!!! :D - Grady On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Grady Laksmono wrote: > Hi all, > I'm getting this for some reason when it's trying to load.. I just did an > update from FC8... does anybody have similar problem? FC8 had a little > problem with the widescreen monitor, but didn't give me this thing. It's not > an error message from the OS but it seems that my monitor is not working > well with FC9..? I could do CTRL + ALT + F1 to get into the console > though... Is this because of the new KDE..? > > Thanks, > Grady > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From balajig81 at gmail.com Thu May 22 05:49:40 2008 From: balajig81 at gmail.com (G) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:19:40 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] New Ambassador in Paraguay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6dd1343e0805212249u7cceea63r8fec4a0ddbafa2c6@mail.gmail.com> Hi Esteban Welcome ! and great to have you here :) . Good Luck ! Cheers Balaji On 5/22/08, esteban at fedoraproject.org wrote: > Free Greetings Partners. > I am the newest ambassador of the Fedora Project, here in my country > Paraguay. > We will be active and fostering digital inclusion and Free Software > through the Fedora Project here. > Since already thank you very much Rodrigo and Thomas who were excellent in > their support for my inclusion here. > A big hug and see you later. > > Att > > Esteban Baez > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > From balajig81 at gmail.com Thu May 22 05:55:47 2008 From: balajig81 at gmail.com (G) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:25:47 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] New ambassador in Chihuaua MEXICO In-Reply-To: <6ad0ab20805211232v3541aba7k4f43753a47e4b0c4@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ad0ab20805211232v3541aba7k4f43753a47e4b0c4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6dd1343e0805212255y6a8d3b80m6c7d4db492d5abee@mail.gmail.com> Hi Alejandro > I've recently joined the project and I've just been confirmed. I don't > expect everyone to reply this communication but I just wanted to let you > guys know that I'm around and willing to work hard for the project in my > community. Welcome !! and great to have you here in this wonderful project. > Since I'm new in this project, I have a lot of questions and I may > bother you later with some of them. Yeah you are most welcome to ask questions which makes everything clear. > For those of you wondering "Where's Chihuahua and does that really > exist?" (lol) , it is the biggest State in Mexico located in the North > part of the country and it is part of the border with the US. > > I'm catching up with the meeting minutes and generally with all the > documentation but please let me know if there are things I should know > in order to start the quickest possible, as for instance the date and > time for the next meeting will be a good thing to be warned of. Probably you could think about whats required currently in Fedora that would take Fedora a step ahead :). Cheers, Balaji On 5/22/08, Alejandro Acosta wrote: > Hello ambassador folks > > I've recently joined the project and I've just been confirmed. I don't > expect everyone to reply this communication but I just wanted to let you > guys know that I'm around and willing to work hard for the project in my > community. > > Since I'm new in this project, I have a lot of questions and I may > bother you later with some of them. > > For those of you wondering "Where's Chihuahua and does that really > exist?" (lol) , it is the biggest State in Mexico located in the North > part of the country and it is part of the border with the US. > > I'm catching up with the meeting minutes and generally with all the > documentation but please let me know if there are things I should know > in order to start the quickest possible, as for instance the date and > time for the next meeting will be a good thing to be warned of. > > Regards > Alejandro Acosta > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From balajig81 at gmail.com Thu May 22 09:17:40 2008 From: balajig81 at gmail.com (G) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:47:40 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6dd1343e0805220217w32fc20ffm71c58efcb59981ac@mail.gmail.com> Hi I ve updated the wiki with my name in the list for chennai. I would also like to know how would the users get to know what versions of fedora do ambassadors have currently. This information would be really helpful . I am not able to find this information on that page so it would be really good if we could also update the version of the fedora Images that we have so that we could write it on to the DVD. Cheers, Balaji On 5/22/08, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Hi all, > > * This is for increasing Fedora Media's availability in India. > > * Please note, you need not spend _any_ money. > > * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your > busy schedule, please list your name here.[1] > > * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as > and when your time permits. > All you need is to burn the CD/DVD. > > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts > > Thanks. > > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi > ============================================= > > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > From danishka at gmail.com Thu May 22 17:34:26 2008 From: danishka at gmail.com (Danishka Navin) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 23:04:26 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Where is Sinhala support? Message-ID: Hi All, I was wondering, how come Sinhala Support removed from the Fedora 9 LiveCD. [1] There is no Sinhala interface for the Fedora 9 installation (tested on X86_64), installed Sinhala support dring the post installation. But Fedora 8 was really good for the Sinhala support. Not only that till Fedora 8, it was the only distro, which gave default support for the Sinhala and it was appreciated by government people as well. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=447860 Regards, -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com (use Sinhala Unicode fonts) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For instructions how to join and help with package testing, please visit this link: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join#OSDeveloper Here is what is involved in Fedora Testing: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraTesting If you would like to distribute Fedora, for free or for a fee, you can either download ISOS and burn the physical media yourself, or I could mail you a couple discs to copy from. You would also want to be listed on the Local Vendors list once you have the media ready: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/LocalVendors In addition, I would suggest that you get involved with the Fedora Ambassadors program, so that you can draw on knowledge, experience, and materials built by this Fedora advocacy group: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors If you have any more questions, please let me know! Thanks a lot, Alex Maier On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:54 AM, mohamd tellawi wrote: > > > > hello sir > > i would like to volunteer for the fedora project as a package tester and official help and community support . and i have a physical PC store and im ready to distribute the fedora physical media. can you please guide me how to make that happen ,who to talk to or where to go . > > appreciate your work > > Regards > > M.Tellawi > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > -- AMaier Art and Photography http://amaier.net From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Thu May 22 18:48:35 2008 From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 00:48:35 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] New Ambassador in Paraguay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/5/22 esteban at fedoraproject.org : > Free Greetings Partners. > I am the newest ambassador of the Fedora Project, here in my country > Paraguay. > We will be active and fostering digital inclusion and Free Software > through the Fedora Project here. > Since already thank you very much Rodrigo and Thomas who were excellent in > their support for my inclusion here. > A big hug and see you later. > > Att > > Esteban Baez > Hello and welcome Esteban. Good luck to you. -- Regards Mahay Alam Khan Fedora Ambassador Bangladesh. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eerpini at gmail.com Thu May 22 19:32:05 2008 From: eerpini at gmail.com (Satish Eerpini) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 01:02:05 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: distribute and support volunteer In-Reply-To: <7f617d270805221129x1201a3daq3a11d9ed286577f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f617d270805221129x1201a3daq3a11d9ed286577f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <93655eb70805221232l1192c987if9c84a7dfe66b1bd@mail.gmail.com> hello Tellawi , if u are from india , u could well add yourself to the following list if u could provide free media , or create a separate list for ur own company , http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts The ambassadors group is one of the best ways to get started and help the project grow. Thanks -Satish On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Alex wrote: > Dear Mr Tellawi, > > Thank you very much for your interest in supporting Fedora! > > For instructions how to join and help with package testing, please > visit this link: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join#OSDeveloper > > Here is what is involved in Fedora Testing: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraTesting > > > If you would like to distribute Fedora, for free or for a fee, you can > either download ISOS and burn the physical media yourself, or I could > mail you a couple discs to copy from. > > You would also want to be listed on the Local Vendors list once you > have the media ready: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/LocalVendors > > > In addition, I would suggest that you get involved with the Fedora > Ambassadors program, so that you can draw on knowledge, experience, > and materials built by this Fedora advocacy group: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors > > > If you have any more questions, please let me know! > Thanks a lot, > Alex Maier > > On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:54 AM, mohamd tellawi > wrote: > > > > > > > > hello sir > > > > i would like to volunteer for the fedora project as a package tester > and official help and community support . and i have a physical PC store and > im ready to distribute the fedora physical media. can you please guide me > how to make that happen ,who to talk to or where to go . > > > > appreciate your work > > > > Regards > > > > M.Tellawi > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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So its not practically possible for me to ship individual DVD's to India and thats the reason i came forward to donate blank DVDs -- Santosh 2008/5/22 Satish Eerpini : > hi Santosh , > check this out , .... > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts > > and the best thing to do , would be to view the demand for the Fedora media > and act > accordingly ! > > -Satish > > 2008/5/22 Santosh Kumar : > >> Dear Fellow Indian Ambassadors, >> Our free media program has been sloppy for sometime now and to >> give it a head start, I would like to donate 500 Blank DVD's for you guys >> to get started with and i promise to replenish the DVD's as the stock >> reduces. How could we guys co-ordinate? >> >> Regards >> Santosh Kumar >> >> >> **************** CAUTION - Disclaimer ************ >> This e-mail contains PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION intended >> solely for the use of the addressee(s). 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So its not practically possible > for me to ship individual DVD's to India and thats the reason i came forward > to donate blank DVDs > > -- > Santosh > > 2008/5/22 Satish Eerpini : > > hi Santosh , >> check this out , .... >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts >> >> and the best thing to do , would be to view the demand for the Fedora >> media and act >> accordingly ! >> >> -Satish >> >> 2008/5/22 Santosh Kumar : >> >>> Dear Fellow Indian Ambassadors, >>> Our free media program has been sloppy for sometime now and to >>> give it a head start, I would like to donate 500 Blank DVD's for you guys >>> to get started with and i promise to replenish the DVD's as the stock >>> reduces. How could we guys co-ordinate? >>> >>> Regards >>> Santosh Kumar >>> >>> >>> **************** CAUTION - Disclaimer ************ >>> This e-mail contains PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION intended >>> solely for the use of the addressee(s). 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Regards Santosh 2008/5/22 Satish Eerpini : > hey Santosh, > i am really sorry , i am a very young member of the project, so din know > about that. > but u could still make the contribution once it is coordinated with all the > interested Indian members, > it is great idea,.... ! > > --Thanks > Satish > > 2008/5/23 Santosh Kumar : > > Hey Satish... >> I was co-ordinating the distribution of FreeMedia when it began in >> India.. but i've now moved on to the US.. So its not practically possible >> for me to ship individual DVD's to India and thats the reason i came forward >> to donate blank DVDs >> >> -- >> Santosh >> >> 2008/5/22 Satish Eerpini : >> >> hi Santosh , >>> check this out , .... >>> >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts >>> >>> and the best thing to do , would be to view the demand for the Fedora >>> media and act >>> accordingly ! >>> >>> -Satish >>> >>> 2008/5/22 Santosh Kumar : >>> >>>> Dear Fellow Indian Ambassadors, >>>> Our free media program has been sloppy for sometime now and to >>>> give it a head start, I would like to donate 500 Blank DVD's for you guys >>>> to get started with and i promise to replenish the DVD's as the stock >>>> reduces. 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I sincerely apologize if i sounded so.. > welcome on board to Fedora India community... and do let me know if you are > interested in this as well... > > Regards > > Santosh > > 2008/5/22 Satish Eerpini : > >> hey Santosh, >> i am really sorry , i am a very young member of the project, so din know >> about that. >> but u could still make the contribution once it is coordinated with all >> the interested Indian members, >> it is great idea,.... ! >> >> --Thanks >> Satish >> >> 2008/5/23 Santosh Kumar : >> >> Hey Satish... >>> I was co-ordinating the distribution of FreeMedia when it began in >>> India.. but i've now moved on to the US.. So its not practically possible >>> for me to ship individual DVD's to India and thats the reason i came forward >>> to donate blank DVDs >>> >>> -- >>> Santosh >>> >>> 2008/5/22 Satish Eerpini : >>> >>> hi Santosh , >>>> check this out , .... >>>> >>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts >>>> >>>> and the best thing to do , would be to view the demand for the Fedora >>>> media and act >>>> accordingly ! >>>> >>>> -Satish >>>> >>>> 2008/5/22 Santosh Kumar : >>>> >>>>> Dear Fellow Indian Ambassadors, >>>>> Our free media program has been sloppy for sometime now and >>>>> to give it a head start, I would like to donate 500 Blank DVD's for you >>>>> guys to get started with and i promise to replenish the DVD's as the stock >>>>> reduces. 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I sincerely apologize if i sounded so.. >> welcome on board to Fedora India community... and do let me know if you are >> interested in this as well... >> >> Regards >> >> Santosh >> >> 2008/5/22 Satish Eerpini : >> >>> hey Santosh, >>> i am really sorry , i am a very young member of the project, so din know >>> about that. >>> but u could still make the contribution once it is coordinated with all >>> the interested Indian members, >>> it is great idea,.... ! >>> >>> --Thanks >>> Satish >>> >>> 2008/5/23 Santosh Kumar : >>> >>> Hey Satish... >>>> I was co-ordinating the distribution of FreeMedia when it began in >>>> India.. but i've now moved on to the US.. So its not practically possible >>>> for me to ship individual DVD's to India and thats the reason i came forward >>>> to donate blank DVDs >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Santosh >>>> >>>> 2008/5/22 Satish Eerpini : >>>> >>>> hi Santosh , >>>>> check this out , .... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts >>>>> >>>>> and the best thing to do , would be to view the demand for the Fedora >>>>> media and act >>>>> accordingly ! >>>>> >>>>> -Satish >>>>> >>>>> 2008/5/22 Santosh Kumar : >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Fellow Indian Ambassadors, >>>>>> Our free media program has been sloppy for sometime now and >>>>>> to give it a head start, I would like to donate 500 Blank DVD's for you >>>>>> guys to get started with and i promise to replenish the DVD's as the stock >>>>>> reduces. 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URL: From vignesh1986 at gmail.com Fri May 23 01:41:55 2008 From: vignesh1986 at gmail.com (Vignesh) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 07:11:55 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... In-Reply-To: <6dd1343e0805220217w32fc20ffm71c58efcb59981ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <6dd1343e0805220217w32fc20ffm71c58efcb59981ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Currently I am writing Fedora 9 dvds. Regards Vignesh On 5/22/08, G wrote: > > Hi > > I ve updated the wiki with my name in the list for chennai. I would > also like to know how would the users get to know what versions of > fedora do ambassadors have currently. This information would be really > helpful . I am not able to find this information on that page so it > would be really good if we could also update the version of the fedora > Images that we have so that we could write it on to the DVD. > > > Cheers, > Balaji > > > > > > > On 5/22/08, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > * This is for increasing Fedora Media's availability in India. > > > > * Please note, you need not spend _any_ money. > > > > * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your > > busy schedule, please list your name here.[1] > > > > * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as > > and when your time permits. > > All you need is to burn the CD/DVD. > > > > > > [1] > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Susmit. > > > > ============================================= > > ssh > > 0x86DD170A > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi > > ============================================= > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From balajig81 at gmail.com Fri May 23 05:30:05 2008 From: balajig81 at gmail.com (G) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 11:00:05 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... In-Reply-To: References: <6dd1343e0805220217w32fc20ffm71c58efcb59981ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6dd1343e0805222230o74244e98ke367104486bd6d21@mail.gmail.com> Hi > Currently I am writing Fedora 9 dvds. Please update your name in the wiki with your email ID in the appropriate location that you represent if you have not done it as yet. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts And What about the version numbers ? How would people come to know what we posses ?. I guess version numbers are most important here Cheers Balaji On 5/23/08, Vignesh wrote: > Currently I am writing Fedora 9 dvds. > > Regards > Vignesh > > > On 5/22/08, G wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > I ve updated the wiki with my name in the list for chennai. I would > > also like to know how would the users get to know what versions of > > fedora do ambassadors have currently. This information would be really > > helpful . I am not able to find this information on that page so it > > would be really good if we could also update the version of the fedora > > Images that we have so that we could write it on to the DVD. > > > > > > Cheers, > > Balaji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/08, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > * This is for increasing Fedora Media's availability in India. > > > > > > * Please note, you need not spend _any_ money. > > > > > > * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your > > > busy schedule, please list your name here.[1] > > > > > > * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as > > > and when your time permits. > > > All you need is to burn the CD/DVD. > > > > > > > > > [1] > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > Susmit. > > > > > > ============================================= > > > ssh > > > 0x86DD170A > > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi > > > ============================================= > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > > > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > From cskjain at gmail.com Fri May 23 05:44:30 2008 From: cskjain at gmail.com (Santosh Kumar) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 00:44:30 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Free Media Distribution - India In-Reply-To: References: <48361979.8020505@gmail.com> Message-ID: If accepting money is easier than accepting materials... i would prefer doing that.... what do you guys think??? If this is fine, please let me know how and to whom should i send it... -- Santosh On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:45 PM, susmit shannigrahi < thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com> wrote: > > Santosh this is really nice on your part. Thank you. > > Santosh, many thanks for your offer first... > > > > I am not too sure if there is a process by which The Fedora Project (in > > India) can accept this offer :) > > Hmm...well, not actually, but this may help.[1] > But only if you are ready to donate the amount. > > > > however, individual Ambassadors/ Points of > > Contact for the Media Program can perhaps work out a solution. > > Well, I was thinking..if Fedora Project can accept money, why cannot > it accept materials? > Sankarshan da, can you ping any FAmSCo member about this? > > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/Donation > > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi > ============================================= > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eerpini at gmail.com Fri May 23 08:51:58 2008 From: eerpini at gmail.com (Satish Eerpini) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 14:21:58 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... In-Reply-To: <6dd1343e0805222230o74244e98ke367104486bd6d21@mail.gmail.com> References: <6dd1343e0805220217w32fc20ffm71c58efcb59981ac@mail.gmail.com> <6dd1343e0805222230o74244e98ke367104486bd6d21@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <93655eb70805230151p11fa6ffdx6f5c2f065e66d06b@mail.gmail.com> hi balaji , .. u are right , we should have version numbers, ... .but one more thing is , i guess many of those who would like to have the media wont be aware that such a list exists , .... how can we make it more popular ? Thanks -Satish On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:00 AM, G wrote: > Hi > > > Currently I am writing Fedora 9 dvds. > > Please update your name in the wiki with your email ID in the > appropriate location that you represent if you have not done it as > yet. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts > > And What about the version numbers ? How would people come to know > what we posses ?. I guess version numbers are most important here > > Cheers > Balaji > > > On 5/23/08, Vignesh wrote: > > Currently I am writing Fedora 9 dvds. > > > > Regards > > Vignesh > > > > > > On 5/22/08, G wrote: > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I ve updated the wiki with my name in the list for chennai. I would > > > also like to know how would the users get to know what versions of > > > fedora do ambassadors have currently. This information would be really > > > helpful . I am not able to find this information on that page so it > > > would be really good if we could also update the version of the fedora > > > Images that we have so that we could write it on to the DVD. > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Balaji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/08, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > * This is for increasing Fedora Media's availability in India. > > > > > > > > * Please note, you need not spend _any_ money. > > > > > > > > * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your > > > > busy schedule, please list your name here.[1] > > > > > > > > * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD > as > > > > and when your time permits. > > > > All you need is to burn the CD/DVD. > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > Susmit. > > > > > > > > ============================================= > > > > ssh > > > > 0x86DD170A > > > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi > > > > ============================================= > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > > > > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From balajig81 at gmail.com Fri May 23 08:59:11 2008 From: balajig81 at gmail.com (G) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 14:29:11 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... In-Reply-To: <93655eb70805230151p11fa6ffdx6f5c2f065e66d06b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6dd1343e0805220217w32fc20ffm71c58efcb59981ac@mail.gmail.com> <6dd1343e0805222230o74244e98ke367104486bd6d21@mail.gmail.com> <93655eb70805230151p11fa6ffdx6f5c2f065e66d06b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6dd1343e0805230159g53438c63r748a06b1412907b9@mail.gmail.com> Hi Satish > u are right , we should have version numbers, ... .but one more thing is , i > guess many of those who would like to have the media wont be aware that such > a list exists , .... how can we make it more popular ? 1.The Lugs should/could have a webpage for CDs right? so we people have to make sure that the link which currently would point to their own people should point to the fedoraproject web page which would be of real help 2. People should first be aware that there exists a program called Free Media. I am very sure that Lot of People now a days know about Ubuntu's shipit so similarly this program should take flight. I guess the new wiki which is shaping up could give importance to this page by adding a link in the home page itself inside (Get-Fedora link) so that the Free media program gains even more momentum too. Cheers, Balaji On 5/23/08, Satish Eerpini wrote: > hi balaji , .. > u are right , we should have version numbers, ... .but one more thing is , i > guess many of those who would like to have the media wont be aware that such > a list exists , .... how can we make it more popular ? > > Thanks > -Satish > > > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:00 AM, G wrote: > > Hi > > > > > > > Currently I am writing Fedora 9 dvds. > > > > Please update your name in the wiki with your email ID in the > > appropriate location that you represent if you have not done it as > > yet. > > > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts > > > > And What about the version numbers ? How would people come to know > > what we posses ?. I guess version numbers are most important here > > > > Cheers > > Balaji > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/23/08, Vignesh wrote: > > > Currently I am writing Fedora 9 dvds. > > > > > > Regards > > > Vignesh > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/08, G wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > I ve updated the wiki with my name in the list for chennai. I would > > > > also like to know how would the users get to know what versions of > > > > fedora do ambassadors have currently. This information would be really > > > > helpful . I am not able to find this information on that page so it > > > > would be really good if we could also update the version of the fedora > > > > Images that we have so that we could write it on to the DVD. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Balaji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/08, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > * This is for increasing Fedora Media's availability in India. > > > > > > > > > > * Please note, you need not spend _any_ money. > > > > > > > > > > * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your > > > > > busy schedule, please list your name here.[1] > > > > > > > > > > * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD > as > > > > > and when your time permits. > > > > > All you need is to burn the CD/DVD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Susmit. > > > > > > > > > > ============================================= > > > > > ssh > > > > > 0x86DD170A > > > > > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi > > > > > ============================================= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > > > > > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > > > > > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > From affix at FedoraProject.org Fri May 23 13:05:45 2008 From: affix at FedoraProject.org (Keiran Smith) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 14:05:45 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... In-Reply-To: <6dd1343e0805230159g53438c63r748a06b1412907b9@mail.gmail.com> References: <6dd1343e0805220217w32fc20ffm71c58efcb59981ac@mail.gmail.com> <6dd1343e0805222230o74244e98ke367104486bd6d21@mail.gmail.com> <93655eb70805230151p11fa6ffdx6f5c2f065e66d06b@mail.gmail.com> <6dd1343e0805230159g53438c63r748a06b1412907b9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, I am doing fedora DVDs for The West Lothian region of scotland Ive also sent some to New Zealand on request if anyone needs some Just let me know I'd be happy to help On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:59 AM, G wrote: > Hi Satish > > > u are right , we should have version numbers, ... .but one more thing is > , i > > guess many of those who would like to have the media wont be aware that > such > > a list exists , .... how can we make it more popular ? > > 1.The Lugs should/could have a webpage for CDs right? so we people > have to make sure that the link which currently would point to their > own people should point to the fedoraproject web page which > would be of real help > > 2. People should first be aware that there exists a program called > Free Media. I am very sure that Lot of People now a days know about > Ubuntu's shipit so similarly this program should take flight. I guess > the new wiki which is shaping up could give importance to this page by > adding a link in the home page itself inside (Get-Fedora link) so that > the Free media program gains even more momentum too. > > Cheers, > Balaji > > On 5/23/08, Satish Eerpini wrote: > > hi balaji , .. > > u are right , we should have version numbers, ... .but one more thing is > , i > > guess many of those who would like to have the media wont be aware that > such > > a list exists , .... how can we make it more popular ? > > > > Thanks > > -Satish > > > > > > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:00 AM, G wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > Currently I am writing Fedora 9 dvds. > > > > > > Please update your name in the wiki with your email ID in the > > > appropriate location that you represent if you have not done it as > > > yet. > > > > > > > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts > > > > > > And What about the version numbers ? How would people come to know > > > what we posses ?. I guess version numbers are most important here > > > > > > Cheers > > > Balaji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/23/08, Vignesh wrote: > > > > Currently I am writing Fedora 9 dvds. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Vignesh > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/08, G wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > I ve updated the wiki with my name in the list for chennai. I would > > > > > also like to know how would the users get to know what versions of > > > > > fedora do ambassadors have currently. This information would be > really > > > > > helpful . I am not able to find this information on that page so it > > > > > would be really good if we could also update the version of the > fedora > > > > > Images that we have so that we could write it on to the DVD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Balaji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/22/08, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > * This is for increasing Fedora Media's availability in India. > > > > > > > > > > > > * Please note, you need not spend _any_ money. > > > > > > > > > > > > * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from > your > > > > > > busy schedule, please list your name here.[1] > > > > > > > > > > > > * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank > CD/DVD > > as > > > > > > and when your time permits. > > > > > > All you need is to burn the CD/DVD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Susmit. > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================================= > > > > > > ssh > > > > > > 0x86DD170A > > > > > > > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi > > > > > > ============================================= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > > > > > > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Affix - iHack Admin - Fedora Ambasador - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From siddharth at techbugs.org Fri May 23 15:58:08 2008 From: siddharth at techbugs.org (Siddharth Upmanyu) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 21:28:08 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Free Media Distribution - India In-Reply-To: References: <48361979.8020505@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/5/23 Santosh Kumar : > If accepting money is easier than accepting materials... i would prefer > doing that.... what do you guys think??? If this is fine, please let me know > how and to whom should i send it... > > -- > Santosh > > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:45 PM, susmit shannigrahi > wrote: >> >> > Santosh this is really nice on your part. Thank you. >> >> Santosh, many thanks for your offer first... >> >> >> > I am not too sure if there is a process by which The Fedora Project (in >> > India) can accept this offer :) >> >> Hmm...well, not actually, but this may help.[1] >> But only if you are ready to donate the amount. >> >> >> > however, individual Ambassadors/ Points of >> > Contact for the Media Program can perhaps work out a solution. >> >> Well, I was thinking..if Fedora Project can accept money, why cannot >> it accept materials? >> Sankarshan da, can you ping any FAmSCo member about this? >> >> >> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/Donation >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Susmit. >> >> ============================================= >> ssh >> 0x86DD170A >> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi >> ============================================= > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Hi Friends, was reading through the discussion but replying a little late as office network is very restrictive... :-) looking at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts i think we are going good... as we get more local contacts it gets a lot more easier to distribute the load.. then the contribution management and a point where we can accept media and possibly money for FreeMedia requirements... if we can discuss this in a meeting that can be better i think.. Sushmit can u plan and organise another meeting in coming days? until then we can filter out our options and prepare a draft. Regards Siddharth From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri May 23 16:07:23 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 21:37:23 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Free Media Distribution - India In-Reply-To: References: <48361979.8020505@gmail.com> Message-ID: > > then the contribution management and a point where we can accept media > and possibly money for FreeMedia requirements... if we can discuss > this in a meeting that can be better i think.. Sushmit can u plan and > organise another meeting in coming days? until then we can filter out > our options and prepare a draft. Sure I can. I was also thinking of a meeting. Will arrange for it soon. At this exact moment I'm in process of getting two or three new contributor in. :) -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ============================================= From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri May 23 16:43:56 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 22:13:56 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC Message-ID: Hi all, Hope you all are doing fine. It has been over a month till we had a meeting. How about having another? This meeting is absolutely necessary as we are trying to organise ourselves and have a lot to discuss. It is on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC. So that gives us sufficient time to discuss things, plan, and make drafts. You can check the timing here.[1] As always, this is subject to change if majority have problem with the date/timing. Also I hope to see a few more people in the meeting. Last time only 7-8 people were present (we have 61 ambassadors). See you there. :) [1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=6&day=8&hour=10&min=0&sec=0 -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ============================================= From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Fri May 23 17:35:55 2008 From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 23:35:55 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/5/23 susmit shannigrahi : > Hi all, > > Hope you all are doing fine. It has been over a month till we had a > meeting. > How about having another? > > This meeting is absolutely necessary as we are trying to organise > ourselves and have a lot to discuss. > > It is on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC. > So that gives us sufficient time to discuss things, plan, and make drafts. > *+1* -- Regards mak ----------------------- Hacking is good Hackers human -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From subhodip at fedoraproject.org Fri May 23 17:38:14 2008 From: subhodip at fedoraproject.org (subhodip biswas) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 23:08:14 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <539333cb0805231038g6b017fe0k731c6800fc160cfd@mail.gmail.com> +1 .. hopefully I will remain this time 2008/5/23 mak : > 2008/5/23 susmit shannigrahi : >> >> Hi all, >> >> Hope you all are doing fine. It has been over a month till we had a >> meeting. >> How about having another? >> >> This meeting is absolutely necessary as we are trying to organise >> ourselves and have a lot to discuss. >> >> It is on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC. >> So that gives us sufficient time to discuss things, plan, and make drafts. > > +1 > > -- > Regards > mak > ----------------------- > Hacking is good > Hackers human > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Regards Subhodip Biswas GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas From eerpini at gmail.com Fri May 23 18:46:12 2008 From: eerpini at gmail.com (Satish Eerpini) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 00:16:12 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <539333cb0805231038g6b017fe0k731c6800fc160cfd@mail.gmail.com> References: <539333cb0805231038g6b017fe0k731c6800fc160cfd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <93655eb70805231146y6485ee52v6e8b1490071ee7c1@mail.gmail.com> i am a new member this time, so i will be there, ...this will be my first meeting , .... On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:08 PM, subhodip biswas < subhodip at fedoraproject.org> wrote: > +1 .. hopefully I will remain this time > > 2008/5/23 mak : > > 2008/5/23 susmit shannigrahi : > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Hope you all are doing fine. It has been over a month till we had a > >> meeting. > >> How about having another? > >> > >> This meeting is absolutely necessary as we are trying to organise > >> ourselves and have a lot to discuss. > >> > >> It is on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC. > >> So that gives us sufficient time to discuss things, plan, and make > drafts. > > > > +1 > > > > -- > > Regards > > mak > > ----------------------- > > Hacking is good > > Hackers human > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > -- > Regards > Subhodip Biswas > > GPG key : FAEA34AB > Server : pgp.mit.edu > http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com > http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I > have a question for all of you: > > What event on the Fedora Events list will you plan to be attending > this year? > > --g > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From linux at elfshadow.net Fri May 23 20:13:24 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:13:24 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Calling all North American ambassadors! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10e0a9b00805231313h25fd4a1bgb1cf9ae1d77b23c7@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > To be specific: all ambassadors from the United States and Canada. I have a > question for all of you: > > What event on the Fedora Events list will you plan to be attending this > year? I will be organizing the Fedora booth at Ohio Linux Fest again this year. I know there will be several others at the booth with us again this year. A couple of us also organize the Fedora Release Parties here in Central Ohio. ~Jeffrey From gdk at redhat.com Fri May 23 20:21:04 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:21:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Calling all North American ambassadors! In-Reply-To: <48371CD9.9080105@webpath.net> References: <48371CD9.9080105@webpath.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 May 2008, Karlie Robinson wrote: > I've submitted to Ohio Linux Fest, Central PA OS Con, and Ontario Linux > fest to talk about the Public Software Foundation. If I'm put on the > schedule, I'd be happy to help/join in on any Fedora activities. ~Karlie Brilliant! Thanks Karlie. I will be at the Central PA show, so I know I'll see you there. Re: Ontario -- is this Seneca's show, or a different one? --g > Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: >> >> To be specific: all ambassadors from the United States and Canada. I have >> a question for all of you: >> >> What event on the Fedora Events list will you plan to be attending this >> year? >> >> --g >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From karlie_robinson at webpath.net Fri May 23 20:27:16 2008 From: karlie_robinson at webpath.net (Karlie Robinson) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:27:16 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Calling all North American ambassadors! In-Reply-To: References: <48371CD9.9080105@webpath.net> Message-ID: <483728A4.9040809@webpath.net> Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > Re: Ontario -- is this Seneca's show, or a different one? I don't think so. I'm pretty sure it's a newer event (as in maybe last year was #1) - http://onlinux.ca/ I'm just wondering what everyone was thinking scheduling their Fests and Cons within days of one another? From gdk at redhat.com Fri May 23 20:35:35 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:35:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Calling all North American ambassadors! In-Reply-To: <483728A4.9040809@webpath.net> References: <48371CD9.9080105@webpath.net> <483728A4.9040809@webpath.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 May 2008, Karlie Robinson wrote: > Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: >> Re: Ontario -- is this Seneca's show, or a different one? > I don't think so. I'm pretty sure it's a newer event (as in maybe last year > was #1) - http://onlinux.ca/ > > I'm just wondering what everyone was thinking scheduling their Fests and Cons > within days of one another? THEY'RE THE SAME DAY! /me boggles. Mr. Tyler, can you shed some light on this state of affairs? --g From karlie_robinson at webpath.net Fri May 23 20:36:53 2008 From: karlie_robinson at webpath.net (Karlie Robinson) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:36:53 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Calling all North American ambassadors! In-Reply-To: References: <48371CD9.9080105@webpath.net> Message-ID: <48372AE5.2060907@webpath.net> I submitted to Seneca too. So maybe I'll be there too ~K Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > > On Fri, 23 May 2008, Karlie Robinson wrote: > >> I've submitted to Ohio Linux Fest, Central PA OS Con, and Ontario >> Linux fest to talk about the Public Software Foundation. If I'm put >> on the schedule, I'd be happy to help/join in on any Fedora >> activities. ~Karlie > > Brilliant! Thanks Karlie. I will be at the Central PA show, so I > know I'll see you there. Re: Ontario -- is this Seneca's show, or a > different one? > > --g > >> Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: >>> >>> To be specific: all ambassadors from the United States and Canada. >>> I have a question for all of you: >>> >>> What event on the Fedora Events list will you plan to be attending >>> this year? >>> >>> --g >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From gradyfausta at laksmono.com Fri May 23 23:53:24 2008 From: gradyfausta at laksmono.com (Grady Laksmono) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:53:24 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Calling all North American ambassadors! In-Reply-To: <48372AE5.2060907@webpath.net> References: <48371CD9.9080105@webpath.net> <48372AE5.2060907@webpath.net> Message-ID: There's no event in Southern California? Los Angeles area? I just did a Fedora 9 Release Party, report is coming.. :) - Grady On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Karlie Robinson < karlie_robinson at webpath.net> wrote: > I submitted to Seneca too. So maybe I'll be there too > > ~K > > > Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, 23 May 2008, Karlie Robinson wrote: >> >> I've submitted to Ohio Linux Fest, Central PA OS Con, and Ontario Linux >>> fest to talk about the Public Software Foundation. If I'm put on the >>> schedule, I'd be happy to help/join in on any Fedora activities. ~Karlie >>> >> >> Brilliant! Thanks Karlie. I will be at the Central PA show, so I know >> I'll see you there. 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I have > a question for all of you: > > What event on the Fedora Events list will you plan to be attending this > year? > > --g > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > I intend on helping at O'Reilly OSCON in July in Portland OR. I have been contacted by John Aboutboul @ Redhat to start organizing. Hopefully we can get more participating Ambassadors. -- ---------- Matt M. LinuxKnight -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It has been over a month till we had a >> >> meeting. >> >> How about having another? >> >> >> >> This meeting is absolutely necessary as we are trying to organise >> >> ourselves and have a lot to discuss. >> >> >> >> It is on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC. >> >> So that gives us sufficient time to discuss things, plan, and make >> drafts. >> > >> > +1 >> > >> > -- >> > Regards >> > mak >> > ----------------------- >> > Hacking is good >> > Hackers human >> > -- >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards >> Subhodip Biswas >> >> GPG key : FAEA34AB >> Server : pgp.mit.edu >> http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com >> http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Although I'll be delighted to hear about your release party. :) --g > - Grady > > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Karlie Robinson > wrote: > I submitted to Seneca too. ?So maybe I'll be there too > > ~K > > > Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > > On Fri, 23 May 2008, Karlie Robinson wrote: > > I've submitted to Ohio Linux Fest, Central > PA OS Con, and Ontario Linux fest to talk > about the Public Software Foundation. ?If > I'm put on the schedule, I'd be happy to > help/join in on any Fedora activities. > ~Karlie > > > Brilliant! ?Thanks Karlie. ?I will be at the Central PA > show, so I know I'll see you there. ?Re: Ontario -- is > this Seneca's show, or a different one? > > --g > > Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > To be specific: all ambassadors > from the United States and > Canada. ?I have a question for > all of you: > > What event on the Fedora Events > list will you plan to be > attending this year? > > --g > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing > list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > From gdk at redhat.com Sat May 24 06:22:22 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 02:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Calling all North American ambassadors! (fwd) Message-ID: Just making sure this hit the list. :) --g ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 22:04:45 -0400 From: Chris Tyler To: Greg Dekoenigsberg Cc: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Calling all North American ambassadors! On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 16:35 -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > On Fri, 23 May 2008, Karlie Robinson wrote: > >> Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: >>> Re: Ontario -- is this Seneca's show, or a different one? >> I don't think so. I'm pretty sure it's a newer event (as in maybe last year >> was #1) - http://onlinux.ca/ >> >> I'm just wondering what everyone was thinking scheduling their Fests and Cons >> within days of one another? > > THEY'RE THE SAME DAY! > > /me boggles. > > Mr. Tyler, can you shed some light on this state of affairs? > > --g The short story: FSOSS is 7 years old, and last year had 325 attendees, 42 talks, 10 workshops, and no booths, scheduled over two weekdays. Our attendees came from across North America (obviously, with a concentration on the GTA). This year's event is scheduled for Thu Oct 23 and Fri Oct 24. OnLinux (modelled after the Ohio Linux Fest) is 1 year old, and last year had ~25 talks and lots of booths, scheduled over one weekend day. I don't remember how many attendees they said they had. This year's event is scheduled for Sat Oct 25. OnLinux popped up on our radar a few weeks before their event (which was one week before ours). We introduced ourselves in advance and cross-linked our websites, and afterwards had a teleconference to sort out what we should be doing. We're constrained schedule-wise by facilities (we use the Seneca at York campus during reading week), and they have different scheduling issues. After some discussion, we decided that we're probably attracting different audiences -- FSOSS is more likely to reach those using OS in their work, as well as students. OnLinux is more accessible to those who are involved with Linux on a personal-interest level, LUGs, and so forth. OnLinux found that the best date for this year was immediately after FSOSS, and we don't really think that's a conflict. In fact, it may work for some out-of-town speakers to present at both events. And with 5 million people in the area, there are plenty of attendees to go around. -Chris (Greg: this might not post to f-a-l, please forward if appropriate) From gdk at redhat.com Sat May 24 06:23:04 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 02:23:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Calling all North American ambassadors! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 23 May 2008, Matt McKenzie wrote: > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg > wrote: > > To be specific: all ambassadors from the United States and > Canada. ?I have a question for all of you: > > What event on the Fedora Events list will you plan to be > attending this year? > > --g > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > I intend on helping at O'Reilly OSCON in July in Portland OR. > I have been contacted by John Aboutboul @ Redhat to start organizing. > Hopefully we can get more participating Ambassadors. Brilliant! :) --g From gradyfausta at laksmono.com Sat May 24 07:19:28 2008 From: gradyfausta at laksmono.com (Grady Laksmono) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 00:19:28 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Calling all North American ambassadors! In-Reply-To: References: <48371CD9.9080105@webpath.net> <48372AE5.2060907@webpath.net> Message-ID: I posted it on the other thread isn't it? here's the report: http://laksmono.com/2008/05/23/los-angeles-fedora-9-release-party-success/ - Grady 2008/5/23 Greg Dekoenigsberg : > > On Fri, 23 May 2008, Grady Laksmono wrote: > > There's no event in Southern California? Los Angeles area? I just did a >> Fedora 9 Release Party, report is coming.. :) >> > > SCALE is the only one I know of, and that's in February. There's Linux > World in SF in... August, I think, but I know that's a haul. > > Although I'll be delighted to hear about your release party. :) > > --g > > > - Grady >> >> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Karlie Robinson >> wrote: >> I submitted to Seneca too. So maybe I'll be there too >> >> ~K >> >> >> Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: >> >> >> On Fri, 23 May 2008, Karlie Robinson wrote: >> >> I've submitted to Ohio Linux Fest, Central >> PA OS Con, and Ontario Linux fest to talk >> about the Public Software Foundation. If >> I'm put on the schedule, I'd be happy to >> help/join in on any Fedora activities. >> ~Karlie >> >> >> Brilliant! Thanks Karlie. I will be at the Central PA >> show, so I know I'll see you there. Re: Ontario -- is >> this Seneca's show, or a different one? >> >> --g >> >> Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: >> >> To be specific: all ambassadors >> from the United States and >> Canada. I have a question for >> all of you: >> >> What event on the Fedora Events >> list will you plan to be >> attending this year? >> >> --g >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing >> list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> -- >> >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> >> > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You should be aggregating your Fedora tagged articles to Planet. --g From makghosh at gmail.com Sat May 24 07:25:55 2008 From: makghosh at gmail.com (Arindam Ghosh) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 12:55:55 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <928156be0805232125l77f129f0n1b7f357b4c62ac87@mail.gmail.com> References: <539333cb0805231038g6b017fe0k731c6800fc160cfd@mail.gmail.com> <93655eb70805231146y6485ee52v6e8b1490071ee7c1@mail.gmail.com> <928156be0805232125l77f129f0n1b7f357b4c62ac87@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8990327d0805240025p573f9423h1905f17b3736d047@mail.gmail.com> +1....i think i will be there although semester exams scheduled around then :) --Arindam 2008/5/24 Heherson Pagcaliwagan : > will be on the road but i'll try to be hooked up. > > 2008/5/24 Satish Eerpini : >> >> i am a new member this time, so i will be there, ...this will be my first >> meeting , .... >> >> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:08 PM, subhodip biswas >> wrote: >>> >>> +1 .. hopefully I will remain this time >>> >>> 2008/5/23 mak : >>> > 2008/5/23 susmit shannigrahi : >>> >> >>> >> Hi all, >>> >> >>> >> Hope you all are doing fine. It has been over a month till we had a >>> >> meeting. >>> >> How about having another? >>> >> >>> >> This meeting is absolutely necessary as we are trying to organise >>> >> ourselves and have a lot to discuss. >>> >> >>> >> It is on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC. >>> >> So that gives us sufficient time to discuss things, plan, and make >>> >> drafts. >>> > >>> > +1 >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Regards >>> > mak >>> > ----------------------- >>> > Hacking is good >>> > Hackers human >>> > -- >>> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards >>> Subhodip Biswas >>> >>> GPG key : FAEA34AB >>> Server : pgp.mit.edu >>> http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com >>> http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Arindam Ghosh [http://arindamghosh.wordpress.com] GPG Key: 0EE58920 Key Server: http://pgp.mit.edu From glaksmono at fedoraproject.org Sat May 24 07:26:34 2008 From: glaksmono at fedoraproject.org (Grady Laksmono) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 00:26:34 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Calling all North American ambassadors! In-Reply-To: References: <48371CD9.9080105@webpath.net> <48372AE5.2060907@webpath.net> Message-ID: Hi Greg, I'm sorry, what does that mean? This is the first time I'm making a report.. Thanks, Grady On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 12:23 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > On Sat, 24 May 2008, Grady Laksmono wrote: > > I posted it on the other thread isn't it? >> >> here's the report: >> http://laksmono.com/2008/05/23/los-angeles-fedora-9-release-party-success/ >> > > Brilliant. You should be aggregating your Fedora tagged articles to > Planet. > > > --g > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdk at redhat.com Sat May 24 07:42:07 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 03:42:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Calling all North American ambassadors! In-Reply-To: References: <48371CD9.9080105@webpath.net> <48372AE5.2060907@webpath.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 24 May 2008, Grady Laksmono wrote: > Hi Greg, > I'm sorry, what does that mean? This is the first time I'm making a > report.. Go check out the Fedora Planet site: http://planet.fedoraproject.org It's where we aggregate the blogs of everyone in the Fedora community. You can add your feed so that whenever you post to your blog, it shows up at the Fedora Planet site. You should submit your feed URL for your Fedora articles (http://laksmono.com/category/fedora/rss) to the Fedora Planet according to the instructions here: http://skvidal.fedorapeople.org/docs/planet-addition.html --g From gradyfausta at laksmono.com Sat May 24 08:46:22 2008 From: gradyfausta at laksmono.com (Grady Laksmono) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 01:46:22 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Calling all North American ambassadors! In-Reply-To: References: <48371CD9.9080105@webpath.net> <48372AE5.2060907@webpath.net> Message-ID: Greg, I completed the instructions, so, how long does it take for me to be able to see my post being aggregated at http://planet.fedoraproject.org? Thanks, Grady On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 12:42 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > > On Sat, 24 May 2008, Grady Laksmono wrote: > > Hi Greg, >> I'm sorry, what does that mean? This is the first time I'm making a >> report.. >> > > Go check out the Fedora Planet site: > > http://planet.fedoraproject.org > > It's where we aggregate the blogs of everyone in the Fedora community. 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It has been over a month till we had a > meeting. > How about having another? > > This meeting is absolutely necessary as we are trying to organise > ourselves and have a lot to discuss. > > It is on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC. > So that gives us sufficient time to discuss things, plan, and make drafts. > > You can check the timing here.[1] > > As always, this is subject to change if majority have problem with the > date/timing. > > Also I hope to see a few more people in the meeting. Last time only > 7-8 people were present (we have 61 ambassadors). > > See you there. :) > > [1] > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=6&day=8&hour=10&min=0&sec=0 > > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi > ============================================= > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdk at redhat.com Sat May 24 09:19:28 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 05:19:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Calling all North American ambassadors! In-Reply-To: References: <48371CD9.9080105@webpath.net> <48372AE5.2060907@webpath.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 24 May 2008, Grady Laksmono wrote: > Greg, > I completed the instructions, so, how long does it take for me to be able > to see my post being aggregated at http://planet.fedoraproject.org? Now that, I don't know. Seth? With your new Planet instructions, how long does it take for a new feed to show up? --g From jkeating at redhat.com Sat May 24 11:36:26 2008 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 07:36:26 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Calling all North American ambassadors! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1211628986.5079.167.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 15:02 -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > What event on the Fedora Events list will you plan to be attending this > year? FUDCon Boston Linux Symposium (OLS) If I hear word of any Association of Computing Machinery events at colleges/universities in my area that may want Fedora participation I'll be going to that as well (or any such event, ACM or not). -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It has been over a month till we had a >> meeting. >> How about having another? >> >> This meeting is absolutely necessary as we are trying to organise >> ourselves and have a lot to discuss. >> >> It is on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC. >> So that gives us sufficient time to discuss things, plan, and make drafts. >> >> You can check the timing here.[1] >> >> As always, this is subject to change if majority have problem with the >> date/timing. >> >> Also I hope to see a few more people in the meeting. Last time only >> 7-8 people were present (we have 61 ambassadors). >> >> See you there. :) >> >> [1] >> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=6&day=8&hour=10&min=0&sec=0 >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Susmit. >> >> ============================================= >> ssh >> 0x86DD170A >> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi >> ============================================= >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- With Best Regards Vidur Mittal Meerut -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Later, /B -- Brian Pepple http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BrianPepple gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From inode0 at gmail.com Sat May 24 13:49:51 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 08:49:51 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Calling all North American ambassadors! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > To be specific: all ambassadors from the United States and Canada. I have a > question for all of you: > > What event on the Fedora Events list will you plan to be attending this > year? I'll be at the Red Hat Summit & FUDcon10 at least. Happy to help out in any way I can. John From angel.fedora at gmail.com Sat May 24 14:03:38 2008 From: angel.fedora at gmail.com (Angel) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 20:03:38 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: <702a203e0805240218p4f121451s2b7537dc64c8e5e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I am not sure. I have practical class tomorrow. I?ll try my best to attend the meeting. 2008/5/24 Vidur Mittal : > Hi, > > We should present there....as meeting is necessary > 2008/5/24 nehal dattani : > > +1 i am a new member.......i will also b there >> >> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:13 PM, susmit shannigrahi < >> thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Hope you all are doing fine. It has been over a month till we had a >>> meeting. >>> How about having another? >>> >>> This meeting is absolutely necessary as we are trying to organise >>> ourselves and have a lot to discuss. >>> >>> It is on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC. >>> So that gives us sufficient time to discuss things, plan, and make >>> drafts. >>> >>> You can check the timing here.[1] >>> >>> As always, this is subject to change if majority have problem with the >>> date/timing. >>> >>> Also I hope to see a few more people in the meeting. Last time only >>> 7-8 people were present (we have 61 ambassadors). >>> >>> See you there. :) >>> >>> [1] >>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=6&day=8&hour=10&min=0&sec=0 >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Susmit. >>> >>> ============================================= >>> ssh >>> 0x86DD170A >>> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi >>> ============================================= >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > With Best Regards > Vidur Mittal > Meerut > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Angel GPG key: 0xC4639705 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AshiqurRahman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The talks heavily emphasized the education mission and were received with a level of enthusiasm I wasn't prepared for. I've been asked to come back to these groups in the future to give follow-up presentations. In light of the recent developments I feel quite uncomfortable at this point as my faith in the OLPC project being an education project, not a laptop project, is not on a firm foundation any more. While I enthusiastically can promote Sugar, it doesn't seem to be part of the OLPC project at this point. Can you shed any light on the future of Fedora's role in the OLPC project? Or can you shed any light on how one can explain what happened within the framework of this project being about education? John From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Sat May 24 14:32:54 2008 From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 20:32:54 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: <702a203e0805240218p4f121451s2b7537dc64c8e5e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/5/24 Angel : > I am not sure. I have practical class tomorrow. I?ll try my best to attend > the meeting. > But Angel, the meeting is not tomorrow, it will be on 8th June, Sunday - . It's next month. I believe you won't have any problem then. Once again it's ????? ????? ? ?????, ??????? ???? ??? ????? ?:?? ??????? -- Regards mak ----------------------- Hacking is good Hackers human -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My mistake. 2008/5/24 mak : > 2008/5/24 Angel : > >> I am not sure. I have practical class tomorrow. I?ll try my best to attend >> the meeting. >> > > But Angel, the meeting is not tomorrow, it will be on 8th June, Sunday - . > It's next month. I believe you won't have any problem then. > > Once again it's ????? ????? ? ?????, ??????? ???? ??? ????? ?:?? > ??????? > > > -- > Regards > mak > ----------------------- > Hacking is good > Hackers human > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Angel GPG key: 0xC4639705 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AshiqurRahman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Last time only > 7-8 people were present (we have 61 ambassadors). > > See you there. :) > > [1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=6&day=8&hour=10&min=0&sec=0 > > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi > ============================================= > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From stickster at gmail.com Sat May 24 19:15:13 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 15:15:13 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Calling all North American ambassadors! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1211656513.3276.14.camel@victoria> On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 15:02 -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > To be specific: all ambassadors from the United States and Canada. I have > a question for all of you: > > What event on the Fedora Events list will you plan to be attending this > year? At this point, looks like: FUDCon Boston 2008 (June) OSCON 2008 - Portland, OR (July) UTOSC 2008 - Salt Lake City, UT (August) FSOSS 2008 - Toronto, CAN (October) Ohio Linuxfest - Columbus, OH (October) -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From bpepple at fedoraproject.org Sat May 24 19:41:18 2008 From: bpepple at fedoraproject.org (Brian Pepple) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 15:41:18 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Calling all North American ambassadors! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1211658078.10860.2.camel@kennedy> On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 15:02 -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > What event on the Fedora Events list will you plan to be attending this > year? Ohio Linux Fest FSOSS (possibly) Later, /B -- Brian Pepple http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BrianPepple gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From glaksmono at fedoraproject.org Sat May 24 20:11:27 2008 From: glaksmono at fedoraproject.org (Grady Laksmono) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 13:11:27 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Calling all North American ambassadors! In-Reply-To: <1211635496.21370.1.camel@truman> References: <1211635496.21370.1.camel@truman> Message-ID: So, do I need to use other method? Thanks, Grady 2008/5/24 Brian Pepple : > On Sat, 2008-05-24 at 05:19 -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > On Sat, 24 May 2008, Grady Laksmono wrote: > > > > > Greg, > > > I completed the instructions, so, how long does it take for me to be > able > > > to see my post being aggregated at http://planet.fedoraproject.org? > > > > Now that, I don't know. Seth? With your new Planet instructions, how > > long does it take for a new feed to show up? > > I don't think the switch has been flipped yet for the new method of > being added to the Planet. > > Later, > /B > -- > Brian Pepple > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BrianPepple > gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E > BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Now it's just a matter of patience. :) --g From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Sun May 25 08:47:57 2008 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 10:47:57 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1830 #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20080525104757.4e63cc79@agnetha.mrtomlinux> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2008-05-25 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (25 mai) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'h?sitez pas ? la modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent int?ressants. Thomas Canniot From linux at elfshadow.net Sun May 25 12:23:48 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 08:23:48 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Los Angeles F9 Release Party report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10e0a9b00805250523k4fdc6be5w65bf3ef7bb8ecdd5@mail.gmail.com> 2008/5/23 Grady Laksmono : > Here's the report of the release party that I wrote in my blog. There were > pictures there as well :) > > http://laksmono.com/2008/05/23/los-angeles-fedora-9-release-party-success/ > > Thanks all for your supports! Excellent work! Very nice blog post and lots of pics to go with it. Thanks for all of the work you put into making the release party a success. Thanks! Jeffrey From herlo1 at gmail.com Sun May 25 15:11:51 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 09:11:51 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Calling all North American ambassadors! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote: > > To be specific: all ambassadors from the United States and Canada. I have > a question for all of you: > > What event on the Fedora Events list will you plan to be attending this > year? > > --g > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > I'm planning on making OSCON this year and helping at the booth. Also, I'm in charge of the Utah Open Source Conference in late August. In fact, I'm the organizer, so getting a Fedora booth up there is a given. I'd like to invite any and all ambassadors in the area (or nearby states) to contact me and I'll get you squared away. We do need a couple people to help out with the booth. Cheers, Clint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From rau_a at web.de Fri May 23 18:32:50 2008 From: rau_a at web.de (Andreas Rau) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 20:32:50 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questions In-Reply-To: References: <1210107404.6900.27.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210204523.11296.52.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <482290D1.4040108@fedoraproject.org> <4825383D.5070601@gmail.com> <482584AF.7090100@kanarip.com> <1210451572.6516.66.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1210454949.29786.24.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <1210456428.6516.85.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1211033313.3298.83.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <1211567570.3874.15.camel@urz-ar220.urz.unibas.ch> Collecting money from third parties is the primary reason in my point of view... getting money from the community is not the target of this operation! So there is nothing to fear - there is no need to be a member.. this is mainly a way to get sponsors Kind regards, Andi Rau Am Montag, den 19.05.2008, 09:31 +0200 schrieb Max Spevack: > On Sat, 17 May 2008, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > > We have Ambassadors from all these countries and all these people will > > have to pay the same amount of money. Do you really think you will be > > able to attract members from Africa or the Middle East this way? > > I know that I keep chiming in on the side of this thread, but once again > I must say that from my perspective as a Red Hat employee whose > full-time job is to build community throughout EMEA, I am not at all > interested in collecting any sorts of fees from people who are members > of the Fedora community. > > When the idea of a Fedora EMEA e.V. was first proposed to me, the reason > that I supported the idea was because it would be useful to have a legal > entity, not Red Hat, that was organized and working to promote the > mission of Fedora throughout EMEA. I think it is also an interesting > experiment in community empowerment, and a good next step for the larger > Fedora Project to try. > > Fedora EMEA e.V., if you ask *my opinion*, should be trying to raise > money from third parties, and not from the current Fedora community. A > peson does not need to be a "member" of Fedora EMEA e.V. to be a member > of the Fedora community in Europe, Africa, Middle East, or anywhere. > > Again, I speak only for myself, and from the viewpoint of someone who is > tasked with thinking about the overall health of the Fedora community in > EMEA, and in also making sure that the financial situation of Fedora > EMEA e.V., whatever that situation might be, is handled transparently > for the community, the Fedora Board, and Red Hat to all make the most of > it. > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From engels at bluepoint.com.ph Mon May 26 07:10:00 2008 From: engels at bluepoint.com.ph (Engels Antonio) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 15:10:00 +0800 (PHT) Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <6ad0ab20805240901q7adf988dmc337279011828bea@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ad0ab20805240901q7adf988dmc337279011828bea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <61021.10.0.0.4.1211785800.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> +1 On Sun, May 25, 2008 12:01 am, Alejandro Acosta wrote: > +1, see you there > > My first meeting, I won't miss it > > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:43 AM, susmit shannigrahi > wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Hope you all are doing fine. It has been over a month till we had a >> meeting. How about having another? >> >> This meeting is absolutely necessary as we are trying to organise >> ourselves and have a lot to discuss. >> >> It is on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC. So that gives us >> sufficient time to discuss things, plan, and make drafts. >> >> You can check the timing here.[1] >> >> As always, this is subject to change if majority have problem with the >> date/timing. >> >> Also I hope to see a few more people in the meeting. Last time only 7-8 >> people were present (we have 61 ambassadors). >> >> See you there. :) >> >> [1] >> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=6& >> day=8&hour=10&min=0&sec=0 >> >> >> -- Regards, Susmit. From btoogood at slingshot.co.nz Mon May 26 07:18:24 2008 From: btoogood at slingshot.co.nz (brendon) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:18:24 +1200 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <61021.10.0.0.4.1211785800.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> References: <6ad0ab20805240901q7adf988dmc337279011828bea@mail.gmail.com> <61021.10.0.0.4.1211785800.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> Message-ID: <1211786304.2674.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2008-05-26 at 15:10 +0800, Engels Antonio wrote: > +1 > +1 -- Brendon Toogood Ambassador Fedora Project New Zealand HTTP://www.fedoraproject.org Email:btoogood at fedoraproject.org for cd's and dvds From gvarisco at redhat.com Mon May 26 09:58:22 2008 From: gvarisco at redhat.com (Gianluca Varisco) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 11:58:22 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 9 Release Party in Rome - Report & photos Message-ID: <483A89BE.6000407@redhat.com> HI guys, Here is my report about our F9 Release Party held in Rome: it was fantastic, and won't be probably the last one that will be organized the next months! ;-) - Report http://www.techtemple.org/blog/2008/05/f9-release-party-in-rome-report-day-0/ http://www.techtemple.org/blog/2008/05/f9-release-party-in-rome-report-day-1/ - Photo sets http://www.flickr.com/photos/gvarisco/sets/72157605261328191/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ilpettegolo/sets/72157605260817529/ Cheers, -- Gianluca Varisco, RHCE Intern - Web Engineering, Red Hat Italia Tel.: +39 02 5681 4487 Fax : +39 02 669 3111 Cel.: +39 333 574 0934 Address/Indirizzo: Via Antonio Da Recanate 1 20124 Milano From magie at fedoraproject.org Mon May 26 10:13:24 2008 From: magie at fedoraproject.org (Magie Antonio) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:13:24 +0800 (PHT) Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC Message-ID: <48909.10.0.0.4.1211796804.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> > On Mon, 2008-05-26 at 15:10 +0800, Engels Antonio wrote: >> +1 >> > +1 > -- > > Brendon Toogood > Ambassador Fedora Project > New Zealand > HTTP://www.fedoraproject.org > Email:btoogood at fedoraproject.org > for cd's and dvds +1 :) -- Marie Grace Gaffud-Antonio Bluepoint Institute of Higher Technology Foundation http://bluepoint.com.ph/ -- Marie Grace Gaffud-Antonio Bluepoint Institute of Higher Technology Foundation http://bluepoint.com.ph/ From luca at foppiano.org Mon May 26 14:59:45 2008 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:59:45 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fwd: Fedora Slide Template] Message-ID: <1211813985.3817.66.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> Hi, a colleague of me and Francesco Crippa make a wonderful generic template for fedora slides ;-) Luca -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Samuele Storari Reply-To: Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers. To: fedora-art-list Subject: Fedora Slide Template Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:57:07 +0200 (CEST) Some days ago I realized that there isn't a real Fedora Slide Template... So I provide :D In the marketing Collateral Page on the Wiki u can find the source and the preview image too. I give u the direct link to download the template. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fedora_template.otp Give me some feedbacks ;) Ciao Samuele -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 73rd day of Discord in the YOLD 3174 If puns were deli meat, this would be the wurst. From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Mon May 26 17:00:48 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:00:48 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fwd: Fedora Slide Template] In-Reply-To: <1211813985.3817.66.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> References: <1211813985.3817.66.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> Message-ID: 2008/5/26 Luca Foppiano : > Hi, a colleague of me and Francesco Crippa make a wonderful generic > template for fedora slides ;-) > > Luca > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: Samuele Storari > Reply-To: Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including > icons, themes, and wallpapers. > To: fedora-art-list > Subject: Fedora Slide Template > Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:57:07 +0200 (CEST) > > Some days ago I realized that there isn't a real Fedora Slide Template... > So I provide :D > In the marketing Collateral Page on the Wiki u can find the source and the preview image too. > I give u the direct link to download the template. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fedora_template.otp > > Give me some feedbacks ;) > > Ciao > Samuele > > -- > Today is Sweetmorn, the 73rd day of Discord in the YOLD 3174 > > If puns were deli meat, this would be the wurst. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Impressive! Thank you with the creator Francesco From chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com Mon May 26 17:42:16 2008 From: chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com (Dipanjan Chakraborty) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 23:12:16 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <61021.10.0.0.4.1211785800.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> References: <6ad0ab20805240901q7adf988dmc337279011828bea@mail.gmail.com> <61021.10.0.0.4.1211785800.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> Message-ID: Am I elligible to be there? I just joined. If I am, I might not be able to attend as my semester exams start on 4th and end only on 13th. In any case what is the venue. I am new and have no idea. Dipanjan Chakraborty Belur On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Engels Antonio wrote: > +1 > > On Sun, May 25, 2008 12:01 am, Alejandro Acosta wrote: > > +1, see you there > > > > My first meeting, I won't miss it > > > > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:43 AM, susmit shannigrahi > > wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Hope you all are doing fine. It has been over a month till we had a > >> meeting. How about having another? > >> > >> This meeting is absolutely necessary as we are trying to organise > >> ourselves and have a lot to discuss. > >> > >> It is on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC. So that gives us > >> sufficient time to discuss things, plan, and make drafts. > >> > >> You can check the timing here.[1] > >> > >> As always, this is subject to change if majority have problem with the > >> date/timing. > >> > >> Also I hope to see a few more people in the meeting. Last time only 7-8 > >> people were present (we have 61 ambassadors). > >> > >> See you there. :) > >> > >> [1] > >> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=6& > >> day=8&hour=10&min=0&sec=0 > >> > >> > >> -- Regards, Susmit. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eagerclouds at gmail.com Tue May 27 01:21:21 2008 From: eagerclouds at gmail.com (Li, Songlin) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:21:21 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: <6ad0ab20805240901q7adf988dmc337279011828bea@mail.gmail.com> <61021.10.0.0.4.1211785800.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> Message-ID: I am not sure, but I will try. And, where is the agenda? 2008/5/27 Dipanjan Chakraborty : > Am I elligible to be there? I just joined. > > If I am, I might not be able to attend as my semester exams start on 4th > and end only on 13th. > In any case what is the venue. I am new and have no idea. > > Dipanjan Chakraborty > Belur > > > On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Engels Antonio > wrote: > >> +1 >> >> On Sun, May 25, 2008 12:01 am, Alejandro Acosta wrote: >> > +1, see you there >> > >> > My first meeting, I won't miss it >> > >> > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:43 AM, susmit shannigrahi >> > wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> Hope you all are doing fine. It has been over a month till we had a >> >> meeting. How about having another? >> >> >> >> This meeting is absolutely necessary as we are trying to organise >> >> ourselves and have a lot to discuss. >> >> >> >> It is on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC. So that gives us >> >> sufficient time to discuss things, plan, and make drafts. >> >> >> >> You can check the timing here.[1] >> >> >> >> As always, this is subject to change if majority have problem with the >> >> date/timing. >> >> >> >> Also I hope to see a few more people in the meeting. Last time only 7-8 >> >> people were present (we have 61 ambassadors). >> >> >> >> See you there. :) >> >> >> >> [1] >> >> >> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=6& >> >> day=8&hour=10&min=0&sec=0 >> >> >> >> >> >> -- Regards, Susmit. >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Regards ----------------------------------------- ??? Li, Songlin ???? 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Thank you! 2008/5/27 Francesco Ugolini : > 2008/5/26 Luca Foppiano : > > Hi, a colleague of me and Francesco Crippa make a wonderful generic > > template for fedora slides ;-) > > > > Luca > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > From: Samuele Storari > > Reply-To: Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including > > icons, themes, and wallpapers. > > To: fedora-art-list > > Subject: Fedora Slide Template > > Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:57:07 +0200 (CEST) > > > > Some days ago I realized that there isn't a real Fedora Slide Template... > > So I provide :D > > In the marketing Collateral Page on the Wiki u can find the source and > the preview image too. > > I give u the direct link to download the template. > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fedora_template.otp > > > > Give me some feedbacks ;) > > > > Ciao > > Samuele > > > > -- > > Today is Sweetmorn, the 73rd day of Discord in the YOLD 3174 > > > > If puns were deli meat, this would be the wurst. > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > Impressive! > > Thank you with the creator > > Francesco > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Regards ----------------------------------------- ??? Li, Songlin ???? Beijing, China TEL: +86 0 138 104 957 91 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rodrigomenezes12 at yahoo.com.br Tue May 27 03:19:45 2008 From: rodrigomenezes12 at yahoo.com.br (Rodrigo Menezes) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 23:19:45 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] =?windows-1252?q?Fedora_Project_Brazil_release_the?= =?windows-1252?q?_second_of_it=92s_Online_Magazine?= Message-ID: <483B7DD1.8090602@yahoo.com.br> We are proud to announce the second release of Revista Fedora Brasil (Fedora Brazil Magazine), an online magazine about Fedora made by Brazilian Ambassadors and Linux community members for those who speak Portuguese. In this issue, we present the new Fedora 9 release and some articles about system-config tools, KDE4, Anaconda and more. To rock our world, a article about Frets on Fire, a really cool game to learn how to play a guitar. We have also included an interview with Eric Sandeen, ext4 developer from Red Hat and some Fedora news selected by Rodrigo Menezes and his team. Our teams are growing and we hope more users come to join the team. At the same time, sugestions and comments are welcome. Link (in pt_BR): http://projetofedora.org/Revista Cheers, Rodrigo Menezes __________________________________________________ Fa?a liga??es para outros computadores com o novo Yahoo! Messenger http://br.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue May 27 03:34:43 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:04:43 +0530 Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_=5BAmbassadors=5D_Fedora_Project_?= =?windows-1252?Q?Brazil_release_the_second_of_it=92s_Online_?= =?windows-1252?Q?Magazine?= In-Reply-To: <483B7DD1.8090602@yahoo.com.br> References: <483B7DD1.8090602@yahoo.com.br> Message-ID: <483B8153.7060609@fedoraproject.org> Rodrigo Menezes wrote: > We are proud to announce the second release of Revista Fedora Brasil > (Fedora Brazil Magazine), an online magazine about Fedora made by > Brazilian Ambassadors and Linux community members for those who speak > Portuguese. > > In this issue, we present the new Fedora 9 release and some articles > about system-config tools, KDE4, Anaconda and more. To rock our world, a > article about Frets on Fire, a really cool game to learn how to play a > guitar. We have also included an interview with Eric Sandeen, ext4 > developer from Red Hat and some Fedora news selected by Rodrigo Menezes > and his team. > > Our teams are growing and we hope more users come to join the team. At > the same time, sugestions and comments are welcome. > > Link (in pt_BR): http://projetofedora.org/Revista There are a few things I suggested I would add again * Drop the non-commercial use restriction. It is really incompatible with the ideas of Free software and you can read further at http://freedomdefined.org/Licenses/NC * Publish the "source" material for this content. For example the original content in scribus format or whatever publishing method you are using. * Consider doing a English translation. Rahul From rodrigomenezes12 at yahoo.com.br Tue May 27 03:48:36 2008 From: rodrigomenezes12 at yahoo.com.br (Rodrigo Menezes) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 23:48:36 -0400 Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_=5BAmbassadors=5D_Fedora_Project_?= =?windows-1252?Q?Brazil_release_the_second_of_it=92s_Online_?= =?windows-1252?Q?Magazine?= In-Reply-To: <483B8153.7060609@fedoraproject.org> References: <483B7DD1.8090602@yahoo.com.br> <483B8153.7060609@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <483B8494.1080005@yahoo.com.br> Rahul Sundaram escreveu: > Rodrigo Menezes wrote: >> We are proud to announce the second release of Revista Fedora Brasil >> (Fedora Brazil Magazine), an online magazine about Fedora made by >> Brazilian Ambassadors and Linux community members for those who speak >> Portuguese. >> >> In this issue, we present the new Fedora 9 release and some articles >> about system-config tools, KDE4, Anaconda and more. To rock our >> world, a article about Frets on Fire, a really cool game to learn how >> to play a guitar. We have also included an interview with Eric >> Sandeen, ext4 developer from Red Hat and some Fedora news selected by >> Rodrigo Menezes and his team. >> >> Our teams are growing and we hope more users come to join the team. >> At the same time, sugestions and comments are welcome. >> >> Link (in pt_BR): http://projetofedora.org/Revista > > There are a few things I suggested I would add again > > * Drop the non-commercial use restriction. It is really incompatible > with the ideas of Free software and you can read further at > http://freedomdefined.org/Licenses/NC We'll discuss about this issue. > > * Publish the "source" material for this content. For example the > original content in scribus format or whatever publishing method you > are using. I don't got a reason for this on. We used scribus in all releases, in the first one we published the original content in the and nobody asked for it, so I don't think that it's necessary. > > * Consider doing a English translation. This is a tough decision. We planned this magazine to be released every two months, even with a great team, we used all the time to produce this release. Maybe a english version could made the magazine to be released every 3 months, too much time. In the future, as our team grows, we can consider you idea. Thanks!!! > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Rodrigo __________________________________________________ Fa?a liga??es para outros computadores com o novo Yahoo! Messenger http://br.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue May 27 05:42:45 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:12:45 +0530 Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_=5BAmbassadors=5D_Fedora_Project_?= =?windows-1252?Q?Brazil_release_the_second_of_it=92s_Online_?= =?windows-1252?Q?Magazine?= In-Reply-To: <483B8494.1080005@yahoo.com.br> References: <483B7DD1.8090602@yahoo.com.br> <483B8153.7060609@fedoraproject.org> <483B8494.1080005@yahoo.com.br> Message-ID: <483B9F55.8020109@fedoraproject.org> Rodrigo Menezes wrote: > I don't got a reason for this on. We used scribus in all releases, in > the first one we published the original content in the and nobody asked > for it, so I don't think that it's necessary. It allows others to build on the work you have done. Pretty much all the reasons we publish source code applies here. Rahul From balajig81 at gmail.com Tue May 27 07:12:08 2008 From: balajig81 at gmail.com (G) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:42:08 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: <6ad0ab20805240901q7adf988dmc337279011828bea@mail.gmail.com> <61021.10.0.0.4.1211785800.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> Message-ID: <6dd1343e0805270012l3f6717e2j19dd36c94cc84fca@mail.gmail.com> Hi > Am I elligible to be there? I just joined. Yes you are very much eligible if you are an ambassador :) > If I am, I might not be able to attend as my semester exams start on 4th and > end only on 13th. > In any case what is the venue. I am new and have no idea. I guess the venue would be irc.freenode.net /fedora-mktg would be the channel where we all hang out , it could also be #fedora-meeting i am not sure on this but you would get intimation on this front soon. Cheers Balaji On 5/26/08, Dipanjan Chakraborty wrote: > Am I elligible to be there? I just joined. > > If I am, I might not be able to attend as my semester exams start on 4th and > end only on 13th. > In any case what is the venue. I am new and have no idea. > > Dipanjan Chakraborty > Belur > > > On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Engels Antonio > wrote: > > +1 > > > > On Sun, May 25, 2008 12:01 am, Alejandro Acosta wrote: > > > +1, see you there > > > > > > My first meeting, I won't miss it > > > > > > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:43 AM, susmit shannigrahi > > > wrote: > > >> Hi all, > > >> > > >> Hope you all are doing fine. It has been over a month till we had a > > >> meeting. How about having another? > > >> > > >> This meeting is absolutely necessary as we are trying to organise > > >> ourselves and have a lot to discuss. > > >> > > >> It is on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC. So that gives us > > >> sufficient time to discuss things, plan, and make drafts. > > >> > > >> You can check the timing here.[1] > > >> > > >> As always, this is subject to change if majority have problem with the > > >> date/timing. > > >> > > >> Also I hope to see a few more people in the meeting. Last time only 7-8 > > >> people were present (we have 61 ambassadors). > > >> > > >> See you there. :) > > >> > > >> [1] > > >> > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=6& > > >> day=8&hour=10&min=0&sec=0 > > >> > > >> > > >> -- Regards, Susmit. > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Tue May 27 08:39:00 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:09:00 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting [Sunday, June 8, 2008] details. Message-ID: Hi All, Thank you all for your response. I can see there is a bit confusion about the details of this meeting. So I am resending the details. * The meeting will be held in the #fedora-meeting channel on freenode[1]. * Timing is here[2]. Please check your local time. * The agenda is here[3]. Please update this with the topics you feel important. * Considering a few members are new, here are the links[4][5] to setup your irc client, if you have not done already. If you need anything else, please let me know. See you all there :) Thanks. [1] freenode.net [2] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=6&day=8&hour=10&min=0&sec=0 [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-06-08 [4] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCSetup [5] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi ============================================= From karlie_robinson at webpath.net Tue May 27 11:54:03 2008 From: karlie_robinson at webpath.net (Karlie Robinson) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:54:03 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Calling all North American ambassadors! In-Reply-To: <48372AE5.2060907@webpath.net> References: <48371CD9.9080105@webpath.net> <48372AE5.2060907@webpath.net> Message-ID: <483BF65B.6080600@webpath.net> Just received an email from FSOSS (Senecac) that my proposal was accepted. So I'll be there for sure. ~Karlie Karlie Robinson wrote: > I submitted to Seneca too. So maybe I'll be there too > > ~K From teseu at fedoraproject.org Tue May 27 17:45:04 2008 From: teseu at fedoraproject.org (Teseu) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:45:04 -0300 Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re:_[Ambassadors]_Fedora_Project_Brazil_r?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?elease_the_second_of_it=92s_Online_Magazine?= In-Reply-To: <483B9F55.8020109@fedoraproject.org> References: <483B7DD1.8090602@yahoo.com.br> <483B8153.7060609@fedoraproject.org> <483B8494.1080005@yahoo.com.br> <483B9F55.8020109@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: The source will be avaliable soon. All releases from RFB will have a package tar.gz with all sources. Teseu 2008/5/27 Rahul Sundaram : > Rodrigo Menezes wrote: > > I don't got a reason for this on. We used scribus in all releases, in the >> first one we published the original content in the and nobody asked for it, >> so I don't think that it's necessary. >> > > It allows others to build on the work you have done. Pretty much all the > reasons we publish source code applies here. > > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- "...don't underestimate the power of the dark side..." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdk at redhat.com Tue May 27 20:10:02 2008 From: gdk at redhat.com (Greg Dekoenigsberg) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:10:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Calling all North American ambassadors! In-Reply-To: <483BF65B.6080600@webpath.net> References: <48371CD9.9080105@webpath.net> <48372AE5.2060907@webpath.net> <483BF65B.6080600@webpath.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 May 2008, Karlie Robinson wrote: > Just received an email from FSOSS (Senecac) that my proposal was accepted. > So I'll be there for sure. Awesome! --g From chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com Tue May 27 21:07:58 2008 From: chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com (Dipanjan Chakraborty) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 02:37:58 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting [Sunday, June 8, 2008] details. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The links [4] and [5] you provided lead me to a page that says "sorry can't display as page has been marked as private", etc. Dipanjan Chakraborty On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 2:09 PM, susmit shannigrahi < thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > Thank you all for your response. > I can see there is a bit confusion about the details of this meeting. > So I am resending the details. > > * The meeting will be held in the #fedora-meeting channel on freenode[1]. > > * Timing is here[2]. Please check your local time. > > * The agenda is here[3]. Please update this with the topics you feel > important. > > * Considering a few members are new, here are the links[4][5] to setup > your irc client, if you have not done already. > > > If you need anything else, please let me know. > See you all there :) > > Thanks. > > [1] freenode.net > [2] > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=6&day=8&hour=10&min=0&sec=0 > [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-06-08 > [4] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCSetup > [5] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi > ============================================= > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Rahul From azneita at fedoraproject.org Wed May 28 01:17:18 2008 From: azneita at fedoraproject.org (Heherson Pagcaliwagan) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:17:18 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC In-Reply-To: <6dd1343e0805270012l3f6717e2j19dd36c94cc84fca@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ad0ab20805240901q7adf988dmc337279011828bea@mail.gmail.com> <61021.10.0.0.4.1211785800.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> <6dd1343e0805270012l3f6717e2j19dd36c94cc84fca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <928156be0805271817k54aa9652tab687c194ca2e5d6@mail.gmail.com> Please check our meeting pagefor the meeting details. No one has updated the agenda yet but I will believe we'll be starting off where we finished the last time around - media. Here's the agenda of our previous meeting . On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 3:12 PM, G wrote: > Hi > > > Am I elligible to be there? I just joined. > > Yes you are very much eligible if you are an ambassador :) > > > If I am, I might not be able to attend as my semester exams start on 4th > and > > end only on 13th. > > In any case what is the venue. I am new and have no idea. > > I guess the venue would be irc.freenode.net /fedora-mktg would be the > channel where we all hang out , it could also be #fedora-meeting i am > not sure on this but you would get intimation on this front soon. > > Cheers > Balaji > > > On 5/26/08, Dipanjan Chakraborty wrote: > > Am I elligible to be there? I just joined. > > > > If I am, I might not be able to attend as my semester exams start on 4th > and > > end only on 13th. > > In any case what is the venue. I am new and have no idea. > > > > Dipanjan Chakraborty > > Belur > > > > > > On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Engels Antonio < > engels at bluepoint.com.ph> > > wrote: > > > +1 > > > > > > On Sun, May 25, 2008 12:01 am, Alejandro Acosta wrote: > > > > +1, see you there > > > > > > > > My first meeting, I won't miss it > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:43 AM, susmit shannigrahi > > > > wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > > > >> > > > >> Hope you all are doing fine. It has been over a month till we had a > > > >> meeting. How about having another? > > > >> > > > >> This meeting is absolutely necessary as we are trying to organise > > > >> ourselves and have a lot to discuss. > > > >> > > > >> It is on Sunday, June 8, 2008 at 10:00:00 UTC. So that gives us > > > >> sufficient time to discuss things, plan, and make drafts. > > > >> > > > >> You can check the timing here.[1] > > > >> > > > >> As always, this is subject to change if majority have problem with > the > > > >> date/timing. > > > >> > > > >> Also I hope to see a few more people in the meeting. Last time only > 7-8 > > > >> people were present (we have 61 ambassadors). > > > >> > > > >> See you there. :) > > > >> > > > >> [1] > > > >> > > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2008&month=6& > > > >> day=8&hour=10&min=0&sec=0 > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- Regards, Susmit. > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <9d2c731f0805280832r532611fbs17bcdbc72d90766c@mail.gmail.com> References: <48371CD9.9080105@webpath.net> <48372AE5.2060907@webpath.net> <483BF65B.6080600@webpath.net> <9d2c731f0805280832r532611fbs17bcdbc72d90766c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <483DC74D.9020709@webpath.net> John Babich wrote: > +1 Great news > > Best Regards, > > John Babich > > > Thanks John! From fedora.lin at gmail.com Wed May 28 22:56:17 2008 From: fedora.lin at gmail.com (Juan Carlos Lin) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:56:17 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] New Ambassador in Paraguay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Welcome Esteban 2008/5/21 esteban at fedoraproject.org : > Free Greetings Partners. > I am the newest ambassador of the Fedora Project, here in my country > Paraguay. > We will be active and fostering digital inclusion and Free Software > through the Fedora Project here. > Since already thank you very much Rodrigo and Thomas who were excellent in > their support for my inclusion here. > A big hug and see you later. > > Att > > Esteban Baez > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Juan Carlos Lin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The temporary glitch was due to wiki migration from > moinmoin to mediawiki. > > Rahul > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eerpini at gmail.com Thu May 29 17:04:27 2008 From: eerpini at gmail.com (Satish Eerpini) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:34:27 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting [Sunday, June 8, 2008] details. In-Reply-To: References: <483C8251.8040503@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <93655eb70805291004q5dae23cet73ca2b87f3655841@mail.gmail.com> Hi Dipanjan try this , first type /nick [ur nick name] then type /msg nickserv register if no one else has already used the nick , it will be assigned to u , and the next time u need to confirm it u can use the password ! hope it helps ! Thanks Satish 2008/5/29 Dipanjan Chakraborty : > It's just not working. > every time I type /msg nickserv register in the irc dialog, it > says "no such nick or channel. I even tried typing NickServ. > > Dipanjan Chakraborty > > > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:21 AM, Rahul Sundaram < > sundaram at fedoraproject.org> wrote: > >> Dipanjan Chakraborty wrote: >> >>> The links [4] and [5] you provided lead me to a page that says "sorry >>> can't display as page has been marked as private", etc. >>> >>> Dipanjan Chakraborty >>> >>> >> Should be alright now. The temporary glitch was due to wiki migration from >> moinmoin to mediawiki. >> >> Rahul >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradyfausta at laksmono.com Thu May 29 22:11:53 2008 From: gradyfausta at laksmono.com (Grady Laksmono) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 15:11:53 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Cluster Analysis Software Message-ID: Hi, I've been asked whether or not if there's Cluster Analysis software that is open source? If so, please give me some recommendations. Thanks, Grady From glaksmono at fedoraproject.org Fri May 30 00:48:01 2008 From: glaksmono at fedoraproject.org (Grady Laksmono) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:48:01 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 9 Media Supplies Message-ID: Hi all, Many of my class mates would like to get the Fedora 9 media, where can I request the supplies for this? I'm happy that many of us are moving to open source! :) Thanks, Grady -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradyfausta at laksmono.com Fri May 30 07:35:12 2008 From: gradyfausta at laksmono.com (Grady Laksmono) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 00:35:12 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 9 VoIP Message-ID: Hi everyone, Does anybody has setup VoIP service in Fedora? I did not succeed when I used Fedora 8. Is there tutorial for this? Some type of walk through? I've heard that we have to request a static IP address from the ISP, but I'm not sure the validity of that information... 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From balajig81 at gmail.com Fri May 30 09:37:49 2008 From: balajig81 at gmail.com (G) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:07:49 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors/CountryList In-Reply-To: <483FC98A.5020803@fedoraproject.org> References: <483FC98A.5020803@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <6dd1343e0805300237l584baceeo9b8c44504f0d2cce@mail.gmail.com> > FAmSCo is looking for a volunteer who is willing to help update the links > at the Ambassadors Country list page [1]. Please let us know if you are > able to help us with this. Are you talking about updating the Ambassador country list format to the new wiki type ?. If yes then i could do it Cheers, Balaji On 5/30/08, Fabian Affolter wrote: > Hi all, > > FAmSCo is looking for a volunteer who is willing to help update the links > at the Ambassadors Country list page [1]. Please let us know if you are > able to help us with this. > > Kind regards, > > Fabian > > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList > > -- > Fingerprint: 2F6C 930F D3C4 7E38 6AFA 4EB4 E23C D2DD 36A4 397F > > Fedora always leads and never follows. > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From fab at fedoraproject.org Fri May 30 09:58:11 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:58:11 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors/CountryList In-Reply-To: <6dd1343e0805300237l584baceeo9b8c44504f0d2cce@mail.gmail.com> References: <483FC98A.5020803@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805300237l584baceeo9b8c44504f0d2cce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <483FCFB3.6020107@fedoraproject.org> "G" wrote: >> FAmSCo is looking for a volunteer who is willing to help update the links >> at the Ambassadors Country list page [1]. Please let us know if you are >> able to help us with this. > > Are you talking about updating the Ambassador country list format to > the new wiki type ?. If yes then i could do it Yepp, I was talking about updating the wiki syntax. Thanks for stepping up. Fabian -- Fingerprint: 2F6C 930F D3C4 7E38 6AFA 4EB4 E23C D2DD 36A4 397F Fedora always leads and never follows. From angel.fedora at gmail.com Fri May 30 09:58:31 2008 From: angel.fedora at gmail.com (Angel) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:58:31 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors/CountryList In-Reply-To: <6dd1343e0805300237l584baceeo9b8c44504f0d2cce@mail.gmail.com> References: <483FC98A.5020803@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805300237l584baceeo9b8c44504f0d2cce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: [1] The format is already in New Media Wiki. Not? [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:37 PM, G wrote: > > FAmSCo is looking for a volunteer who is willing to help update the > links > > at the Ambassadors Country list page [1]. Please let us know if you are > > able to help us with this. > > Are you talking about updating the Ambassador country list format to > the new wiki type ?. If yes then i could do it > > Cheers, > Balaji > > On 5/30/08, Fabian Affolter wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > FAmSCo is looking for a volunteer who is willing to help update the > links > > at the Ambassadors Country list page [1]. Please let us know if you are > > able to help us with this. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Fabian > > > > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList > > > > -- > > Fingerprint: 2F6C 930F D3C4 7E38 6AFA 4EB4 E23C D2DD 36A4 397F > > > > Fedora always leads and never follows. > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Angel GPG key: 0xC4639705 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AshiqurRahman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From angel.fedora at gmail.com Fri May 30 10:01:53 2008 From: angel.fedora at gmail.com (Angel) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 16:01:53 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors/CountryList In-Reply-To: <483FCFB3.6020107@fedoraproject.org> References: <483FC98A.5020803@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805300237l584baceeo9b8c44504f0d2cce@mail.gmail.com> <483FCFB3.6020107@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: I got it. You meant, updating the Ambassadors country list (not all are update yet). I can help you also. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Fabian Affolter wrote: > "G" wrote: > >> FAmSCo is looking for a volunteer who is willing to help update the links >>> at the Ambassadors Country list page [1]. Please let us know if you are >>> able to help us with this. >>> >> >> Are you talking about updating the Ambassador country list format to >> the new wiki type ?. If yes then i could do it >> > > Yepp, I was talking about updating the wiki syntax. Thanks for stepping > up. > > Fabian > > -- > Fingerprint: 2F6C 930F D3C4 7E38 6AFA 4EB4 E23C D2DD 36A4 397F > > Fedora always leads and never follows. > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Angel GPG key: 0xC4639705 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AshiqurRahman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nihedmm at gmail.com Fri May 30 10:10:22 2008 From: nihedmm at gmail.com (nihed mbarek) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:10:22 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors/CountryList In-Reply-To: References: <483FC98A.5020803@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805300237l584baceeo9b8c44504f0d2cce@mail.gmail.com> <483FCFB3.6020107@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <5bddd8fd0805300310v45ea58e8gdef4da9416ed9c8@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I can begin now :) to link example : RodrigoPadula to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RodrigoPadula It's ok ?? 2008/5/30 Angel : > I got it. You meant, updating the Ambassadors country list (not all are > update yet). I can help you also. > > > > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Fabian Affolter > wrote: > >> "G" wrote: >> >>> FAmSCo is looking for a volunteer who is willing to help update the >>>> links >>>> at the Ambassadors Country list page [1]. Please let us know if you are >>>> able to help us with this. >>>> >>> >>> Are you talking about updating the Ambassador country list format to >>> the new wiki type ?. If yes then i could do it >>> >> >> Yepp, I was talking about updating the wiki syntax. Thanks for stepping >> up. >> >> Fabian >> >> -- >> Fingerprint: 2F6C 930F D3C4 7E38 6AFA 4EB4 E23C D2DD 36A4 397F >> >> Fedora always leads and never follows. >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > > -- > Angel > GPG key: 0xC4639705 > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AshiqurRahman > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- M'BAREK Med Nihed, Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa Association for Computing Machinery Member PUB 1024D/FCC5B291 2006-02-28 [expires: 2008-12-27] FPR 16A4 AC3F 0B84 B3D1 A0E5 9BCC AD13 0DAE FCC5 B291 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From balajig81 at gmail.com Fri May 30 10:19:35 2008 From: balajig81 at gmail.com (G) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 15:49:35 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors/CountryList In-Reply-To: <483FCFB3.6020107@fedoraproject.org> References: <483FC98A.5020803@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805300237l584baceeo9b8c44504f0d2cce@mail.gmail.com> <483FCFB3.6020107@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <6dd1343e0805300319n89ed7a2hfa546f4fa8a2b083@mail.gmail.com> > Yepp, I was talking about updating the wiki syntax. Thanks for stepping > up. My pleasure. I ll start working on it from today and would complete it soon. I ll also take some help if i need from fedora-docs people too :) Cheers, Balaji On 5/30/08, Fabian Affolter wrote: > "G" wrote: > > > > > > FAmSCo is looking for a volunteer who is willing to help update the > links > > > at the Ambassadors Country list page [1]. Please let us know if you are > > > able to help us with this. > > > > > > > Are you talking about updating the Ambassador country list format to > > the new wiki type ?. If yes then i could do it > > > > Yepp, I was talking about updating the wiki syntax. Thanks for stepping > up. > > Fabian > > -- > Fingerprint: 2F6C 930F D3C4 7E38 6AFA 4EB4 E23C D2DD 36A4 397F > > Fedora always leads and never follows. > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From fab at fedoraproject.org Fri May 30 10:25:23 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 12:25:23 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors/CountryList In-Reply-To: <5bddd8fd0805300310v45ea58e8gdef4da9416ed9c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <483FC98A.5020803@fedoraproject.org> <6dd1343e0805300237l584baceeo9b8c44504f0d2cce@mail.gmail.com> <483FCFB3.6020107@fedoraproject.org> <5bddd8fd0805300310v45ea58e8gdef4da9416ed9c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <483FD613.3070509@fedoraproject.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 nihed mbarek wrote: | Hi, | I can begin now :) | to link example : | RodrigoPadula to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RodrigoPadula | | It's ok ?? Please take a look at the following message [1], too. Fabian [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-May/msg00013.html - -- Fingerprint: 2F6C 930F D3C4 7E38 6AFA 4EB4 E23C D2DD 36A4 397F Fedora always leads and never follows. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkg/1g8ACgkQ4jzS3TakOX+5QgCfaERjLC+AVOv0Y4uJstFsPsxN A80An3PSh+eRd3zgjV++4SZ8OzADRKor =YjuC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From fzied at dottn.com Sat May 31 08:34:27 2008 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 10:34:27 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 9 VoIP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I got asterisk working out of the box on F8 and 9 2008/5/30 Grady Laksmono : > Hi everyone, > Does anybody has setup VoIP service in Fedora? I did not succeed when I used > Fedora 8. Is there tutorial for this? Some type of walk through? I've heard > that we have to request a static IP address from the ISP, but I'm not sure > the validity of that information... > > Thanks, > Grady > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Zied Fakhfakh Dot TN - CTO Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis Tunisia T : +216 71 886112 F : +216 71 885499 M : +216 22 535604 W : http://www.dottn.com GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C From linux at elfshadow.net Sat May 31 18:36:04 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 14:36:04 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Release Party Contest Reminder Message-ID: <10e0a9b00805311136w486c98e0pe054a3d44cab7bb3@mail.gmail.com> This is a reminder that FAmSCo will begin reviewing all of the excellent release party reports seen for the two week period after the release date to determine the contest winner. We will start to discuss the decision on June 2nd. If you organized a release party during that time frame and have not posted an event report you still have some time to get one posted to have your release event considered for the contest announced here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-April/msg00196.html Thanks! Jeffrey