[Ambassadors] EMEA Membership Questione

Sandro "red" Mathys red at fedoraproject.org
Thu May 8 05:34:09 UTC 2008

Thank you Christoph, I already thought I'm the only guy who's thinking
something's going terribly wrong there.

+1 on everything, especially the €128.

Even though I can afford that money quite easily, I really have no idea
how that helps me to save money for travels to events a.s.o.

I thought private persons are welcome as basic members at a small fee
(10-20€...maybe less, if I'm thinking about certain countries) and it's
the companys that have to pay more for the member- oder even sponsorship.

By the way, I've been to Cameroun (West Africa) lately and you can't
imagine what it'd mean there to spend €128. A beer (0.6l) costs about
€0.6 and most people can't even afford to drink a single beer every day
(soft drinks are not way cheaper). Can you imagine what it'd meant to
spend €128 for them? And yes, they might be future ambassadors. I've
visited some computer schools there and they're doing a good job.
They're using Windows and not Linux yet, but maybe that's going to
change some day - as soon as it's no longer accepted that they're using
illegal licenses for example.

Well, my $.02

-- red

Christoph Wickert wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 06.05.2008, 22:56 +0200 schrieb Gerold Kassube:
>> Hi all together for the second,
>> because I forgot and some are asking for; there is only a german bank
>> account possible (if we have elected a new Treasurer) and the
>> membership fee is EUR 128,-/year for Full membership. This amount can
>> be payed at Linuxtag in person (because of high transfer costs from
>> foreign countrys) ...
> AFAIR the Fedora EMEA NPO was founded to make it easier for us TO RAISE
> money for Fedora and not TO SPEND it. Or did I get something
> completely wrong here?
> IMHO 128 € is way to much especially for those of us who are not from
> the wealthy countries of Europe. I think once again the European
> Ambassadors/Founding members of EMEA did not take the situation of all
> ambassadors into account. Remember, the letters "ME" in EMEA mean
> "Middle East" and "A" is for Africa. Has anybody really thought about
> the people there?
> Could someone also please point out what the difference between the
> different membership grades is (full membership, family membership and
> so on)? According to the declaration of accession to Fedora EMEA the
> cost-reduced membership requires "a confirmation accepted in the Federal
> Republic of Germany." What does that mean?
> Next question: What do I get for my membership? If I read Jörg Simons
> mail of March 24th 2008 correctly, members are getting a "one-off and
> exclusive" welcome present, whatever this means. Must be a hell of a
> present though... ;)
> Also EMEA members are allowed to vote what to do the raised money. Of
> course
> understand this but I'm afraid we are going to divide the ambassadors
> program into first and second class ambassadors: Those who (can afford
> to) pay and therefore have more rights and those who don't.
> Sorry, but this scares me off
> Christoph
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