From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Sep 1 02:38:26 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 08:08:26 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Report: TechTrix '08 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: More report here http://indradg.randomink.org/blog/archives/113 -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From anwarulmamun at gmail.com Mon Sep 1 07:05:54 2008 From: anwarulmamun at gmail.com (Anwarul Mamun) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 13:05:54 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting. In-Reply-To: <928156be0808281803h457a8ab7i56add6e08c57b4a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <539333cb0808270829y5b7f227cm341264844093194b@mail.gmail.com> <1219900625.2633.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <8990327d0808280735k6e5dec1fqcd157ed5f331f1a0@mail.gmail.com> <78323d480808280803v604c0244udc5a17e4974e4ba4@mail.gmail.com> <1219945468.2614.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <928156be0808281803h457a8ab7i56add6e08c57b4a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <293d1f710809010005u78dd0367w7e68ce4a7a481c71@mail.gmail.com> Its OK for me... -- Anwarul Mamun Fedora Ambassador, Bangladesh anwarulmamun at fedoraproject.org On 8/29/08, Heherson Pagcaliwagan wrote: > > If no one has any objection, let's put it on the wiki and finally make it > final. Ditto to the agenda. > > 2008/8/29 Neo Reeves > >> Fine with me too >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:44 PM, brendon wrote: >> >>> if you mean this sunday, then i will be there count me in :) >>> >>> On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 23:49 +0800, Harish Pillay wrote: >>> > Folks - >>> > >>> > Since the APAC region spans about 7 time zones, may I suggest >>> > that 0300 GMT Sunday? >>> > >>> > 0830 India >>> > 1100 Singapore/Malaysia/Western Australia/HK/TW/CH >>> > 1200 Japan/Korea >>> > 1300 Sydney >>> > 1500 NZ >>> > >>> > I would not be able to make it this Sunday as I will be up in the air >>> > somewhere. >>> > >>> > Thanks. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> .:: BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ::. >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Do you people know there is a Fedora lndia list and if you post these messages there, more will come to know about it. Because only few of the Indian contributors are in Ambassador list. List address https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.in http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur) From avinashsingh_87 at hotmail.com Mon Sep 1 07:15:47 2008 From: avinashsingh_87 at hotmail.com (avinash singh) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:45:47 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 Release Party and Install Fest at Imphal, Manipur In-Reply-To: <200809011239.52419.kushaldas@gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60808290857k24a4ad67j4f36a2f3da4b5a83@mail.gmail.com> <347f9e8c0808292328g27dd7028xab21ce7e4f157b59@mail.gmail.com> <200809011239.52419.kushaldas@gmail.com> Message-ID: Is fedora 9 cd/dvd provided by fedora?? Avinash Singh > From: kushaldas at gmail.com> To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 Release Party and Install Fest at Imphal, Manipur> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:39:51 +0530> > On Saturday 30 August 2008 11:58:55 am karthik parvathaneni wrote:> > Hi Rishikesh,> >> > You always have support form us all, We wish you all the very best.> > Long Live Fedora.> > By the way, if possible, can you send me the details of how you> > planned the event and the whole structure of the release party aswell> > as the available resources to organise it.> >> > P.S : The Fedora release party is also my first event.> Do you people know there is a Fedora lndia list and if you post these messages > there, more will come to know about it. Because only few of the Indian > contributors are in Ambassador list. > > List address> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india> > > Kushal> -- > Fedora Ambassador, India> http://kushaldas.in> http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur)> > --> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list _________________________________________________________________ Searching for the best deals on travel? Visit MSN Travel. http://msn.coxandkings.co.in/cnk/cnk.do -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sanjay_ankur at yahoo.co.in Mon Sep 1 08:19:38 2008 From: sanjay_ankur at yahoo.co.in (ankur sinha) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 13:49:38 +0530 (IST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 Release Party and Install Fest at Imphal, Manipur In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <964198.79045.qm@web8402.mail.in.yahoo.com> You can get the dvd/cd by a number of means.. download / free-media/ local contacts..regards, Ankur --- On Mon, 1/9/08, avinash singh wrote: From: avinash singh Subject: RE: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 Release Party and Install Fest at Imphal, Manipur To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Date: Monday, 1 September, 2008, 12:45 PM #yiv1929277656 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1929277656 { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;} Is fedora 9 cd/dvd provided by fedora?? Avinash Singh? > From: kushaldas at gmail.com > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 Release Party and Install Fest at Imphal, Manipur > Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:39:51 +0530 > > On Saturday 30 August 2008 11:58:55 am karthik parvathaneni wrote: > > Hi Rishikesh, > > > > You always have support form us all, We wish you all the very best. > > Long Live Fedora. > > By the way, if possible, can you send me the details of how you > > planned the event and the whole structure of the release party aswell > > as the available resources to organise it. > > > > P.S : The Fedora release party is also my first event. > Do you people know there is a Fedora lndia list and if you post these messages > there, more will come to know about it. Because only few of the Indian > contributors are in Ambassador list. > > List address > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > > > Kushal > -- > Fedora Ambassador, India > http://kushaldas.in > http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur) > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Movies, sports & news! Get your daily entertainment fix, only on live.com Try it now! -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Check out the all-new face of Yahoo! India. Go to http://in.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From suyash.kmr at gmail.com Mon Sep 1 09:05:01 2008 From: suyash.kmr at gmail.com (S.K.) 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I plan to spread as > much awareness as i can about Feodra as well as the open source world, > priamrily using the LUG of my college as a stage. > > Suyash Kumar > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Hello Suyash and welcome! -- Christos Bacharakis cmpahar at fedoraproject.org http://cmpahar.wordpress.com GPG Key: CCFA0AEB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tushar.neupaney at gmail.com Mon Sep 1 09:53:05 2008 From: tushar.neupaney at gmail.com (Tushar Neupaney) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:38:05 +0545 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 Release Party and Install Fest at Imphal, Manipur In-Reply-To: <964198.79045.qm@web8402.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <964198.79045.qm@web8402.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1220262785.11371.3.camel@tushar-laptop> Ya and if you cannot download. We are ready to help. Our group name is: nixdharan And we can help you with CDs. Is there anyone who would like to wear T-Shirts or use bag tags for SFD? We can provide you some in (cost only) price which you can sell and raise fund. Wishes, On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 13:49 +0530, ankur sinha wrote: > You can get the dvd/cd by a number of means.. download / free-media/ > local contacts.. > > regards, > > > Ankur > > > --- On Mon, 1/9/08, avinash singh wrote: > > From: avinash singh > Subject: RE: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 Release Party and Install > Fest at Imphal, Manipur > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Date: Monday, 1 September, 2008, 12:45 PM > > > > Is fedora 9 cd/dvd provided by fedora?? > > Avinash Singh > > > > > > > From: kushaldas at gmail.com > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 Release Party and > Install Fest at Imphal, Manipur > > Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:39:51 +0530 > > > > On Saturday 30 August 2008 11:58:55 am karthik parvathaneni > wrote: > > > Hi Rishikesh, > > > > > > You always have support form us all, We wish you all the > very best. > > > Long Live Fedora. > > > By the way, if possible, can you send me the details of > how you > > > planned the event and the whole structure of the release > party aswell > > > as the available resources to organise it. > > > > > > P.S : The Fedora release party is also my first event. > > Do you people know there is a Fedora lndia list and if you > post these messages > > there, more will come to know about it. Because only few of > the Indian > > contributors are in Ambassador list. > > > > List address > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > > > > > > Kushal > > -- > > Fedora Ambassador, India > > http://kushaldas.in > > http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur) > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Movies, sports & news! Get your daily entertainment fix, only > on live.com Try it now! > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Because only few of the Indian > contributors are in Ambassador list. > > List address > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > I know not all contributors are Ambassadors, but for Event tracking and Ambassadors help is necessary that those topics must be discussed here, and could be Cc to the other lists, but first of all here. Regards Francesco Ugolini From kushaldas at gmail.com Mon Sep 1 11:02:15 2008 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 16:32:15 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 Release Party and Install Fest at Imphal, Manipur In-Reply-To: References: <7cb778c60808290857k24a4ad67j4f36a2f3da4b5a83@mail.gmail.com> <200809011239.52419.kushaldas@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200809011632.15811.kushaldas@gmail.com> On Monday 01 September 2008 04:23:06 pm Francesco Ugolini wrote: > I know not all contributors are Ambassadors, but for Event tracking > and Ambassadors help is necessary that those topics must be discussed > here, and could be Cc to the other lists, but first of all here. True. That mail was for new Fedora ambassadors from India though :) Anyway my point is people from Brazil or USA can not help somebody in India or Bangladesh to organize an event, we have to find local help. Like somebody wants people to come and give talk on Fedora for a college event. Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.in http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur) From bigyan.techie at gmail.com Mon Sep 1 13:24:52 2008 From: bigyan.techie at gmail.com (BiGYaN) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:54:52 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] new ambassador from India In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8a9a812b0809010624p188630e4jc8a772a0e025957e@mail.gmail.com> Welcome to the team pal. from, Bigyan Bhar Check out my Blog : http://naygib.blogspot.com/ Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world. --- Albert Einstein Imagination is the mother of creativity --- D.Tamal 2008/9/1 S.K. > Hi everyone, > > My name is Suyash Kumar and I am a 3rd Sem BE CSE student at Manipal > Institute of Technology. Started using Fedora 8 in January 2008. Currently > using Fedora 9 and completely given to the Open Source world. I have working > knowledge of C, C++ and Java and currently in the process of learning > Python. My blog is scorcherklaxxon.wordpress.com . I plan to spread as > much awareness as i can about Feodra as well as the open source world, > priamrily using the LUG of my college as a stage. > > Suyash Kumar > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From avinashsingh_87 at hotmail.com Mon Sep 1 15:39:08 2008 From: avinashsingh_87 at hotmail.com (avinash singh) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 21:09:08 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 Release Party and Install Fest at Imphal, Manipur In-Reply-To: <964198.79045.qm@web8402.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <964198.79045.qm@web8402.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hello Ambassadors, I am new in ambassador of india.Plese provide me how i can do my 100% contribution for Fedora. Avinash Singh Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 13:49:38 +0530From: sanjay_ankur at yahoo.co.inSubject: RE: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 Release Party and Install Fest at Imphal, ManipurTo: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com You can get the dvd/cd by a number of means.. download / free-media/ local contacts.. regards, Ankur--- On Mon, 1/9/08, avinash singh wrote: From: avinash singh Subject: RE: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 Release Party and Install Fest at Imphal, ManipurTo: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.comDate: Monday, 1 September, 2008, 12:45 PM Is fedora 9 cd/dvd provided by fedora?? Avinash Singh > From: kushaldas at gmail.com> To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 Release Party and Install Fest at Imphal, Manipur> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:39:51 +0530> > On Saturday 30 August 2008 11:58:55 am karthik parvathaneni wrote:> > Hi Rishikesh,> >> > You always have support form us all, We wish you all the very best.> > Long Live Fedora.> > By the way, if possible, can you send me the details of how you> > planned the event and the whole structure of the release party aswell> > as the available resources to organise it.> >> > P.S : The Fedora release party is also my first event.> Do you people know there is a Fedora lndia list and if you post these messages > there, more will come to know about it. Because only few of the Indian > contributors are in Ambassador list. > > List address> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india> > > Kushal> -- > Fedora Ambassador, India> http://kushaldas.in> http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur)> > --> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Movies, sports & news! Get your daily entertainment fix, only on live.com Try it now! -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now _________________________________________________________________ Searching for weekend getaways? Try Live.com http://www.live.com/?scope=video&form=MICOAL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll relay this next order to our vendor on Thursday -- thanks all! - pascal https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pcalarco From linux.charged at gmail.com Mon Sep 1 16:34:19 2008 From: linux.charged at gmail.com (Junior Tomazelli) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 13:34:19 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] new ambassador from India In-Reply-To: <8a9a812b0809010624p188630e4jc8a772a0e025957e@mail.gmail.com> References: <8a9a812b0809010624p188630e4jc8a772a0e025957e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: welcome. :D -- Wolnei C?ndido Tomazelli Junior (Charged) Brazil Fedora Ambassador Designer and TI E-mail : linux.charged at gmail.com Linux User #477062 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tushar. On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 11:52 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: 2008/8/26 Rishikesh Sharma : > Hi All, > > Please help me to organize a Fedora Event in my region for the first time. > What are the required procedure to organize such event. I need assistance > from you all. > > Regards, > Rishikesh Sharma > FA, Imphal, Manipur. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Francesco Ugolini > Date: Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > 2008/8/22 Rishikesh Sharma : >> Hi All, >> >> I want to organise Fedora Event, maybe Fedora 10 release or media >> distribution in my region for the very first time. I am also the only >> fedora >> ambassador in my region. So, i would like to organise fedora event for the >> first time in my region. Please help and support me to organise such event >> in my region for the first time. >> >> >> Rishikesh Sharma >> Fedora Ambassador >> Imphal, Manipur, India. >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > That's a great news. > > What Sankarshan said is complete and perfect. I'm sure APAC community > could help you better than anyone, but if you have more doubts feel > free to ask here. > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > Francesco Ugolini > First thing stay in contact with the other ambassadors around you (thanks Tushar for the availability). Secondly seehttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and add your event there. An advice: to request resources from FAmSCo you need to add your event one month before the beginning of the fiscal quarter, for example now you are late if you want to ask for resources for Q3 (September - November), but if you are considering creating/joining an event in the next quarter Q4 (December - February) you could be able to make the request (then FAmSCo will decide about this one). This was the formal side of answer, for the informal one I could only say: remember when you are in a public event you represent Fedora, and what you say is what people referring to Fedora. Another one: Be friendly and mix the technical skills with the joyful side: people will like this one. For the technical side: if you have a booth try to organize it in a well way so that people could see what Fedora people are offering (e.g. show a demo station with fedora). That's what I can say, naturally I'm pretty sure people around you, like Tushar could be more helpful than me. 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On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 22:30 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > Hi Tushar, > > Thank you for your kind co-operation. You can send me 30 Nos of Fedora > 10 DVD. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Tushar Neupaney > Date: 2008/8/26 > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > Thanks Franceso, > > Rishikesh you can write a mail to me @: tneupaney at gmail.com. > I am looking at how many CDs can we provide (Put it near 30). And I > can send you Fedora 9. > > Thank you. > > Tushar. > > > > > On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 11:52 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > > > 2008/8/26 Rishikesh Sharma : > > > Hi All, > > > > > > Please help me to organize a Fedora Event in my region for the first time. > > > What are the required procedure to organize such event. I need assistance > > > from you all. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rishikesh Sharma > > > FA, Imphal, Manipur. > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > From: Francesco Ugolini > > > Date: Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:45 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region > > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > > > > > > 2008/8/22 Rishikesh Sharma : > > >> Hi All, > > >> > > >> I want to organise Fedora Event, maybe Fedora 10 release or media > > >> distribution in my region for the very first time. I am also the only > > >> fedora > > >> ambassador in my region. So, i would like to organise fedora event for the > > >> first time in my region. Please help and support me to organise such event > > >> in my region for the first time. > > >> > > >> > > >> Rishikesh Sharma > > >> Fedora Ambassador > > >> Imphal, Manipur, India. > > >> -- > > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > >> > > >> > > > > > > That's a great news. > > > > > > What Sankarshan said is complete and perfect. I'm sure APAC community > > > could help you better than anyone, but if you have more doubts feel > > > free to ask here. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > > Francesco Ugolini > > > > > > > First thing stay in contact with the other ambassadors around you > > (thanks Tushar for the availability). Secondly see > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and add your event there. > > > > An advice: to request resources from FAmSCo you need to add your event > > one month before the beginning of the fiscal quarter, for example now > > you are late if you want to ask for resources for Q3 (September - > > November), but if you are considering creating/joining an event in the > > next quarter Q4 (December - February) you could be able to make the > > request (then FAmSCo will decide about this one). > > > > This was the formal side of answer, for the informal one I could only > > say: remember when you are in a public event you represent Fedora, and > > what you say is what people referring to Fedora. Another one: Be > > friendly and mix the technical skills with the joyful side: people > > will like this one. > > > > For the technical side: if you have a booth try to organize it in a > > well way so that people could see what Fedora people are offering > > (e.g. show a demo station with fedora). > > > > That's what I can say, naturally I'm pretty sure people around you, > > like Tushar could be more helpful than me. > > > > Regards > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > > > Naturally, feel free to ask here or FAmSCo. > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I began using Linux in 1993 and more > seriously at university in 1995 and as sysadmin in 1997. > > During my period at university I was a member of LinUV > (http://linuv.uv.es) and became a member of our local LUG: Valux > (www.valux.org). > > At both LUGS I've helped giving talks about system administration, > utilities, guided installations, and FOSS in general as well as giving > advice / troubleshooting to the assistants that came to our party's > interested in the FOSS world. > > Regards > Pablo > > -- > > Pablo Iranzo G?mez (Pablo.Iranzo at redhat.com) > RHCE/RHCSP/RHCSS Global Profesional Services Consultant Spain > Phone: +34 645 01 01 49 (CET/CEST) > GnuPG KeyID: 0xFAD3CF0D > > -- > Inscrita en el Reg. Mercantil de Madrid ? C.I.F. B-82 65 79 41 > Directores: Michael Cunningham, Charlie Peters y David Owens > Direcci?n Registrada: Red Hat S.L., C/ Velazquez 63, Madrid 28001, Espa?a > Direcci?n contacto: C/Jose Bardasano Baos, 9, Edif. Gorbea 3, Planta 3?D, > 28016 Madrid, Spain > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Pablo.Iranzo at redhat.com Tue Sep 2 07:32:42 2008 From: Pablo.Iranzo at redhat.com (Pablo Iranzo =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F3mez?=) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 09:32:42 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi! In-Reply-To: <23edaffd0809012352g5f551331x9c246ace09ae9dc3@mail.gmail.com> References: <1220338300.22487.20.camel@iranzo.users.redhat.com> <23edaffd0809012352g5f551331x9c246ace09ae9dc3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1220340762.22487.30.camel@iranzo.users.redhat.com> Hola V?ctor Estuve hablando con Gianluca el otro d?a del tema. Estuve en la Benaguasil party haciendo una presentaci?n sobre Fedora este fin de semana. We're trying to cooordinate events to see what we can do in order to promote Fedora visibility in spain. Gianluca applied for some events some time ago (Campus Party among them). Gonna check what we can do, events to participate, etc. Regards Pablo El mar, 02-09-2008 a las 08:52 +0200, Victor Fernandez escribi?: > Hola Pablo, he visto que tu tambien eres un Fedora Ambassador (de > Spain no hay muchos ;-) y me gustaria aprovechar este correo para > presentarme y para ver si me podias orientar en que tipo de > actividades podemos participar sobre todo en el ambito hispano. > > Un abrazo y gracias de antemano. > > http://vfernandezg.blogspot.com > > 2008/9/2 Pablo Iranzo G?mez > Hi > My name is Pablo Iranzo, I live in Valencia, Spain and > I'm work as > consultant on FOSS projects. I began using Linux in 1993 and > more > seriously at university in 1995 and as sysadmin in 1997. > > During my period at university I was a member of LinUV > (http://linuv.uv.es) and became a member of our local LUG: > Valux > (www.valux.org). > > At both LUGS I've helped giving talks about system > administration, > utilities, guided installations, and FOSS in general as well > as giving > advice / troubleshooting to the assistants that came to our > party's > interested in the FOSS world. > > Regards > Pablo > > -- > > Pablo Iranzo G?mez (Pablo.Iranzo at redhat.com) > RHCE/RHCSP/RHCSS Global Profesional Services Consultant Spain > Phone: +34 645 01 01 49 (CET/CEST) > GnuPG KeyID: 0xFAD3CF0D > > -- > Inscrita en el Reg. Mercantil de Madrid ? C.I.F. B-82 65 79 41 > Directores: Michael Cunningham, Charlie Peters y David Owens > Direcci?n Registrada: Red Hat S.L., C/ Velazquez 63, Madrid > 28001, Espa?a > Direcci?n contacto: C/Jose Bardasano Baos, 9, Edif. 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Un abrazo. 2008/9/2 Pablo Iranzo G?mez > Hola V?ctor > Estuve hablando con Gianluca el otro d?a del tema. Estuve en la > Benaguasil party haciendo una presentaci?n sobre Fedora este fin de > semana. > We're trying to cooordinate events to see what we can do in order to > promote Fedora visibility in spain. Gianluca applied for some events > some time ago (Campus Party among them). > > Gonna check what we can do, events to participate, etc. > > Regards > Pablo > > > > El mar, 02-09-2008 a las 08:52 +0200, Victor Fernandez escribi?: > > Hola Pablo, he visto que tu tambien eres un Fedora Ambassador (de > > Spain no hay muchos ;-) y me gustaria aprovechar este correo para > > presentarme y para ver si me podias orientar en que tipo de > > actividades podemos participar sobre todo en el ambito hispano. > > > > Un abrazo y gracias de antemano. > > > > http://vfernandezg.blogspot.com > > > > 2008/9/2 Pablo Iranzo G?mez > > Hi > > My name is Pablo Iranzo, I live in Valencia, Spain and > > I'm work as > > consultant on FOSS projects. I began using Linux in 1993 and > > more > > seriously at university in 1995 and as sysadmin in 1997. > > > > During my period at university I was a member of LinUV > > (http://linuv.uv.es) and became a member of our local LUG: > > Valux > > (www.valux.org). > > > > At both LUGS I've helped giving talks about system > > administration, > > utilities, guided installations, and FOSS in general as well > > as giving > > advice / troubleshooting to the assistants that came to our > > party's > > interested in the FOSS world. > > > > Regards > > Pablo > > > > -- > > > > Pablo Iranzo G?mez (Pablo.Iranzo at redhat.com) > > RHCE/RHCSP/RHCSS Global Profesional Services Consultant Spain > > Phone: +34 645 01 01 49 (CET/CEST) > > GnuPG KeyID: 0xFAD3CF0D > > > > -- > > Inscrita en el Reg. Mercantil de Madrid ? C.I.F. B-82 65 79 41 > > Directores: Michael Cunningham, Charlie Peters y David Owens > > Direcci?n Registrada: Red Hat S.L., C/ Velazquez 63, Madrid > > 28001, Espa?a > > Direcci?n contacto: C/Jose Bardasano Baos, 9, Edif. Gorbea 3, > > Planta 3?D, 28016 Madrid, Spain > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- > > Pablo Iranzo G?mez (Pablo.Iranzo at redhat.com) > RHCE/RHCSP/RHCSS Global Profesional Services Consultant Spain > Phone: +34 645 01 01 49 (CET/CEST) > GnuPG KeyID: 0xFAD3CF0D > > -- > Inscrita en el Reg. Mercantil de Madrid ? C.I.F. B-82 65 79 41 > Directores: Michael Cunningham, Charlie Peters y David Owens > Direcci?n Registrada: Red Hat S.L., C/ Velazquez 63, Madrid 28001, Espa?a > Direcci?n contacto: C/Jose Bardasano Baos, 9, Edif. Gorbea 3, Planta 3?D, > 28016 Madrid, Spain > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 2 07:46:29 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:16:29 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi! In-Reply-To: <23edaffd0809012352g5f551331x9c246ace09ae9dc3@mail.gmail.com> References: <1220338300.22487.20.camel@iranzo.users.redhat.com> <23edaffd0809012352g5f551331x9c246ace09ae9dc3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48BCEF55.8020000@fedoraproject.org> Victor Fernandez wrote: > Hola Pablo, he visto que tu tambien eres un Fedora Ambassador (de Spain > no hay muchos ;-) y me gustaria aprovechar este correo para presentarme > y para ver si me podias orientar en que tipo de actividades podemos > participar sobre todo en el ambito hispano. > > Un abrazo y gracias de antemano. > Please stick to English unless it is a locale specific mailing list. If you must talk in another language, send mails offlist. Rahul From tushar.neupaney at gmail.com Tue Sep 2 08:13:39 2008 From: tushar.neupaney at gmail.com (Tushar Neupaney) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:58:39 +0545 Subject: Fwd: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region In-Reply-To: <7cb778c60809011937q1c351731gfe74442c98a5a6da@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60808212121t10a6ff56n72453c186722d005@mail.gmail.com> <7cb778c60808252028p5f6a51fej16169f2c9fe6cef7@mail.gmail.com> <1219749001.10251.10.camel@tushar-laptop> <7cb778c60809011000y2bff16fbtf62a00d170429785@mail.gmail.com> <1220322063.7602.2.camel@tushar-laptop> <7cb778c60809011937q1c351731gfe74442c98a5a6da@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1220343220.15072.9.camel@tushar-laptop> Great! I will send them to you. Is there anything else we can help you from here. It will be my pleasure. Tushar. On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 08:07 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > Hi Tushar, > > Currently, Fedora 10 is not released. It is going to be release on > 18th November. You can download it from 18 November onwards. I am > organising Fedora 10 Release party so Fedora 9 will not suit there. > > You can send me the dvd's to > > B. Rishikesh Sharma > C/o. Computer Solutions > Sagolband Moirang Leirak Manung > Opp. Popular High School > Imphal West - 795001 > Manipur, India. > > > > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Tushar Neupaney > wrote: > > Sorry Rishikesh I don't have Fedora 10 DVD right now. > We don't have even one. > > I can by the way provide you with Fedora 9 CDs that I have. > > Can someone suggest me on how to get Fedora 10 DVD. I can burn > them for Rishikesh. > > And please and write me your address so that I can send them > to you. > > Tushar. > > > > > On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 22:30 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > > > Hi Tushar, > > > > Thank you for your kind co-operation. You can send me 30 Nos > > of Fedora 10 DVD. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Tushar Neupaney > > Date: 2008/8/26 > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in > > my Region > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > > > Thanks Franceso, > > > > Rishikesh you can write a mail to me @: tneupaney at gmail.com. > > I am looking at how many CDs can we provide (Put it near > > 30). And I can send you Fedora 9. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Tushar. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 11:52 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > > > > > 2008/8/26 Rishikesh Sharma : > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > Please help me to organize a Fedora Event in my region for the first time. > > > > What are the required procedure to organize such event. I need assistance > > > > from you all. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rishikesh Sharma > > > > FA, Imphal, Manipur. > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > From: Francesco Ugolini > > > > Date: Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:45 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region > > > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > > > > > > > > > 2008/8/22 Rishikesh Sharma : > > > >> Hi All, > > > >> > > > >> I want to organise Fedora Event, maybe Fedora 10 release or media > > > >> distribution in my region for the very first time. I am also the only > > > >> fedora > > > >> ambassador in my region. So, i would like to organise fedora event for the > > > >> first time in my region. Please help and support me to organise such event > > > >> in my region for the first time. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Rishikesh Sharma > > > >> Fedora Ambassador > > > >> Imphal, Manipur, India. > > > >> -- > > > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > That's a great news. > > > > > > > > What Sankarshan said is complete and perfect. I'm sure APAC community > > > > could help you better than anyone, but if you have more doubts feel > > > > free to ask here. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > > > > > > > > > First thing stay in contact with the other ambassadors around you > > > (thanks Tushar for the availability). Secondly see > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and add your event there. > > > > > > An advice: to request resources from FAmSCo you need to add your event > > > one month before the beginning of the fiscal quarter, for example now > > > you are late if you want to ask for resources for Q3 (September - > > > November), but if you are considering creating/joining an event in the > > > next quarter Q4 (December - February) you could be able to make the > > > request (then FAmSCo will decide about this one). > > > > > > This was the formal side of answer, for the informal one I could only > > > say: remember when you are in a public event you represent Fedora, and > > > what you say is what people referring to Fedora. Another one: Be > > > friendly and mix the technical skills with the joyful side: people > > > will like this one. > > > > > > For the technical side: if you have a booth try to organize it in a > > > well way so that people could see what Fedora people are offering > > > (e.g. show a demo station with fedora). > > > > > > That's what I can say, naturally I'm pretty sure people around you, > > > like Tushar could be more helpful than me. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > > > > > Naturally, feel free to ask here or FAmSCo. > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For the IRC channel, we could try to get one registered and start entering the channel. Regards Pablo El mar, 02-09-2008 a las 09:35 +0200, Victor Fernandez escribi?: > Genial Pablo, me la puedes pasar? > > Estoy en contacto con JuanMa (le pongo en copia) de Sevilla para > montar un portal internacional en el ambito hispano del tipo > http://es,fedoraproject.org y llenarlo de contenido a parte de una > lista de distribucion y canal de irc. > > Podemos contar contigo? > > Un abrazo. > > 2008/9/2 Pablo Iranzo G?mez > Hola V?ctor > Estuve hablando con Gianluca el otro d?a del tema. > Estuve en la > Benaguasil party haciendo una presentaci?n sobre Fedora este > fin de > semana. > We're trying to cooordinate events to see what we can > do in order to > promote Fedora visibility in spain. Gianluca applied for some > events > some time ago (Campus Party among them). > > Gonna check what we can do, events to participate, etc. > > Regards > Pablo > > > > El mar, 02-09-2008 a las 08:52 +0200, Victor Fernandez > escribi?: > > > Hola Pablo, he visto que tu tambien eres un Fedora > Ambassador (de > > Spain no hay muchos ;-) y me gustaria aprovechar este correo > para > > presentarme y para ver si me podias orientar en que tipo de > > actividades podemos participar sobre todo en el ambito > hispano. > > > > Un abrazo y gracias de antemano. > > > > http://vfernandezg.blogspot.com > > > > 2008/9/2 Pablo Iranzo G?mez > > Hi > > My name is Pablo Iranzo, I live in Valencia, > Spain and > > I'm work as > > consultant on FOSS projects. I began using Linux in > 1993 and > > more > > seriously at university in 1995 and as sysadmin in > 1997. > > > > During my period at university I was a member > of LinUV > > (http://linuv.uv.es) and became a member of our > local LUG: > > Valux > > (www.valux.org). > > > > At both LUGS I've helped giving talks about > system > > administration, > > utilities, guided installations, and FOSS in general > as well > > as giving > > advice / troubleshooting to the assistants that came > to our > > party's > > interested in the FOSS world. > > > > Regards > > Pablo > > > > -- > > > > Pablo Iranzo G?mez (Pablo.Iranzo at redhat.com) > > RHCE/RHCSP/RHCSS Global Profesional Services > Consultant Spain > > Phone: +34 645 01 01 49 (CET/CEST) > > GnuPG KeyID: 0xFAD3CF0D > > > > -- > > Inscrita en el Reg. Mercantil de Madrid ? C.I.F. > B-82 65 79 41 > > Directores: Michael Cunningham, Charlie Peters y > David Owens > > Direcci?n Registrada: Red Hat S.L., C/ Velazquez 63, > Madrid > > 28001, Espa?a > > Direcci?n contacto: C/Jose Bardasano Baos, 9, Edif. > Gorbea 3, > > Planta 3?D, 28016 Madrid, Spain > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > > > Pablo Iranzo G?mez (Pablo.Iranzo at redhat.com) > RHCE/RHCSP/RHCSS Global Profesional Services Consultant Spain > Phone: +34 645 01 01 49 (CET/CEST) > GnuPG KeyID: 0xFAD3CF0D > > -- > Inscrita en el Reg. Mercantil de Madrid ? C.I.F. B-82 65 79 41 > Directores: Michael Cunningham, Charlie Peters y David Owens > Direcci?n Registrada: Red Hat S.L., C/ Velazquez 63, Madrid > 28001, Espa?a > Direcci?n contacto: C/Jose Bardasano Baos, 9, Edif. Gorbea 3, > Planta 3?D, 28016 Madrid, Spain > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Pablo Iranzo G?mez (Pablo.Iranzo at redhat.com) RHCE/RHCSP/RHCSS Global Profesional Services Consultant Spain Phone: +34 645 01 01 49 (CET/CEST) GnuPG KeyID: 0xFAD3CF0D -- Inscrita en el Reg. Mercantil de Madrid ? C.I.F. B-82 65 79 41 Directores: Michael Cunningham, Charlie Peters y David Owens Direcci?n Registrada: Red Hat S.L., C/ Velazquez 63, Madrid 28001, Espa?a Direcci?n contacto: C/Jose Bardasano Baos, 9, Edif. 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I began using Linux in 1993 and more > seriously at university in 1995 and as sysadmin in 1997. > > During my period at university I was a member of LinUV > (http://linuv.uv.es) and became a member of our local LUG: Valux > (www.valux.org). > > At both LUGS I've helped giving talks about system administration, > utilities, guided installations, and FOSS in general as well as giving > advice / troubleshooting to the assistants that came to our party's > interested in the FOSS world. > > Regards > Pablo Welcome aboard and wishes of good cooperation with no stagnation from Poland! ;) Cheers, -- Pawel Sadowski Fedora Ambassador in Poland From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 2 11:20:12 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 13:20:12 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassadors Meeting 2008-08-27 Meeting Summary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/8/27 inode0 : > David Nalley led the meeting. > > * News from FAmSCo - Jeffrey Tadlock, no meeting this week, budget is > nearing finalization. > > * Current status of tasks > + No progress made contacting existing ambassadors. > + Potential sponsors for hardware to include in Event Boxes were > contacted this week. We hope to acquire small notebooks for each > event box. We will also attempt to acquire one XO for each box. > + Plans to produce media for F10 proceeding, one or two runs of 3000 > are possible. > + FAD update and planning. > + Planet aggregation continuing - some new ambassadors are on the planet. > + Musts/Shoulds/Coulds - will try to get this out of draft in the next > week or two. > > * The Education Strategy - Jack Aboutboul returned to discuss issues that > were raised on f-a-l and to further discuss the work he is doing in this > area. More discussion is expected. > > * Dealing with News Media - Larry Cafiero introduced us to a draft he is > working on to help us more effectively deal with the media. This opened > a discussion of whether a policy is needed to guide ambassadors in > dealing with various media issues. Regardless of policy I think it is > fair to say the work Larry presented will be a great help to the many > ambassadors who may come in contact with the press in various situations. > > I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new > ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Even if late, thank you for this summary, it helps us staying update with the community efforts and thanks to Jeffrey that is keeping the NA community update about FAmSCo and he is making an excellent job with all NA ambassadors. Regards Francesco Ugolini From juasmas at juasmas.net Tue Sep 2 13:06:51 2008 From: juasmas at juasmas.net (Juasmas) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:06:51 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi! In-Reply-To: <23edaffd0809020035j22bf88e4la439757e74021bdb@mail.gmail.com> References: <1220338300.22487.20.camel@iranzo.users.redhat.com> <23edaffd0809012352g5f551331x9c246ace09ae9dc3@mail.gmail.com> <1220340762.22487.30.camel@iranzo.users.redhat.com> <23edaffd0809020035j22bf88e4la439757e74021bdb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1220360811.3009.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Welcome Pablo, Bienvenido, I am Juan Victoria. Pablo, as Victor has been said, we thinking in create one spanish website dedicated to the Fedora Project. Actually exist one spanish web, but it is unupdated, and incomplete. I tried to contact with the Administrator, Jos? Salgado, but he doesn't answered me. Ok? We can continue this conversation by Google Talk (Victor and Pablo) -- Disculpadme, Pablo y Victor por hablar en ingl?s, pero creo que aqu? es necesario hablar as?, por correcci?n. Esto es una lista de correos p?blica, y hablando as? nadie nos entiende. Para tener una conversaci?n m?s cercana, pudiendonos expresar en nuestro idioma, estar?a bien que nos comunicasemos por correo electr?nico o por mensajer?a instant?nea Google Talk. Victor ya conoce mi cuenta, pero te la dir? a ti Pablo. juasmas [at] gmail [dot] com -- Regards, - Juan Victoria El mar, 02-09-2008 a las 09:35 +0200, Victor Fernandez escribi?: > Genial Pablo, me la puedes pasar? > > Estoy en contacto con JuanMa (le pongo en copia) de Sevilla para > montar un portal internacional en el ambito hispano del tipo > http://es,fedoraproject.org y llenarlo de contenido a parte de una > lista de distribucion y canal de irc. > > Podemos contar contigo? > > Un abrazo. > > 2008/9/2 Pablo Iranzo G?mez > Hola V?ctor > Estuve hablando con Gianluca el otro d?a del tema. > Estuve en la > Benaguasil party haciendo una presentaci?n sobre Fedora este > fin de > semana. > We're trying to cooordinate events to see what we can > do in order to > promote Fedora visibility in spain. Gianluca applied for some > events > some time ago (Campus Party among them). > > Gonna check what we can do, events to participate, etc. > > Regards > Pablo > > > > El mar, 02-09-2008 a las 08:52 +0200, Victor Fernandez > escribi?: > > > Hola Pablo, he visto que tu tambien eres un Fedora > Ambassador (de > > Spain no hay muchos ;-) y me gustaria aprovechar este correo > para > > presentarme y para ver si me podias orientar en que tipo de > > actividades podemos participar sobre todo en el ambito > hispano. > > > > Un abrazo y gracias de antemano. > > > > http://vfernandezg.blogspot.com > > > > 2008/9/2 Pablo Iranzo G?mez > > Hi > > My name is Pablo Iranzo, I live in Valencia, > Spain and > > I'm work as > > consultant on FOSS projects. I began using Linux in > 1993 and > > more > > seriously at university in 1995 and as sysadmin in > 1997. > > > > During my period at university I was a member > of LinUV > > (http://linuv.uv.es) and became a member of our > local LUG: > > Valux > > (www.valux.org). > > > > At both LUGS I've helped giving talks about > system > > administration, > > utilities, guided installations, and FOSS in general > as well > > as giving > > advice / troubleshooting to the assistants that came > to our > > party's > > interested in the FOSS world. > > > > Regards > > Pablo > > > > -- > > > > Pablo Iranzo G?mez (Pablo.Iranzo at redhat.com) > > RHCE/RHCSP/RHCSS Global Profesional Services > Consultant Spain > > Phone: +34 645 01 01 49 (CET/CEST) > > GnuPG KeyID: 0xFAD3CF0D > > > > -- > > Inscrita en el Reg. Mercantil de Madrid ? C.I.F. > B-82 65 79 41 > > Directores: Michael Cunningham, Charlie Peters y > David Owens > > Direcci?n Registrada: Red Hat S.L., C/ Velazquez 63, > Madrid > > 28001, Espa?a > > Direcci?n contacto: C/Jose Bardasano Baos, 9, Edif. > Gorbea 3, > > Planta 3?D, 28016 Madrid, Spain > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > > > Pablo Iranzo G?mez (Pablo.Iranzo at redhat.com) > RHCE/RHCSP/RHCSS Global Profesional Services Consultant Spain > Phone: +34 645 01 01 49 (CET/CEST) > GnuPG KeyID: 0xFAD3CF0D > > -- > Inscrita en el Reg. Mercantil de Madrid ? C.I.F. B-82 65 79 41 > Directores: Michael Cunningham, Charlie Peters y David Owens > Direcci?n Registrada: Red Hat S.L., C/ Velazquez 63, Madrid > 28001, Espa?a > Direcci?n contacto: C/Jose Bardasano Baos, 9, Edif. Gorbea 3, > Planta 3?D, 28016 Madrid, Spain > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From vfernandezg at gmail.com Tue Sep 2 13:54:20 2008 From: vfernandezg at gmail.com (Victor Fernandez) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:54:20 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi! In-Reply-To: <1220360811.3009.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1220338300.22487.20.camel@iranzo.users.redhat.com> <23edaffd0809012352g5f551331x9c246ace09ae9dc3@mail.gmail.com> <1220340762.22487.30.camel@iranzo.users.redhat.com> <23edaffd0809020035j22bf88e4la439757e74021bdb@mail.gmail.com> <1220360811.3009.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <23edaffd0809020654m77e8057cwc11ae7b8229544db@mail.gmail.com> por mi perfecto Juan. Pablo cuando podeis? El 2/09/08, Juasmas escribi?: > Welcome Pablo, Bienvenido, I am Juan Victoria. > > Pablo, as Victor has been said, we thinking in create one spanish > website dedicated to the Fedora Project. > > Actually exist one spanish web, but it is unupdated, and incomplete. I > tried to contact with the Administrator, Jos? Salgado, but he doesn't > answered me. > > Ok? We can continue this conversation by Google Talk (Victor and Pablo) > > -- > Disculpadme, Pablo y Victor por hablar en ingl?s, pero creo que aqu? es > necesario hablar as?, por correcci?n. Esto es una lista de correos > p?blica, y hablando as? nadie nos entiende. Para tener una conversaci?n > m?s cercana, pudiendonos expresar en nuestro idioma, estar?a bien que > nos comunicasemos por correo electr?nico o por mensajer?a instant?nea > Google Talk. > > Victor ya conoce mi cuenta, pero te la dir? a ti Pablo. > > juasmas [at] gmail [dot] com > -- > > Regards, > > - Juan Victoria > > El mar, 02-09-2008 a las 09:35 +0200, Victor Fernandez escribi?: >> Genial Pablo, me la puedes pasar? >> >> Estoy en contacto con JuanMa (le pongo en copia) de Sevilla para >> montar un portal internacional en el ambito hispano del tipo >> http://es,fedoraproject.org y llenarlo de contenido a parte de una >> lista de distribucion y canal de irc. >> >> Podemos contar contigo? >> >> Un abrazo. >> >> 2008/9/2 Pablo Iranzo G?mez >> Hola V?ctor >> Estuve hablando con Gianluca el otro d?a del tema. >> Estuve en la >> Benaguasil party haciendo una presentaci?n sobre Fedora este >> fin de >> semana. >> We're trying to cooordinate events to see what we can >> do in order to >> promote Fedora visibility in spain. Gianluca applied for some >> events >> some time ago (Campus Party among them). >> >> Gonna check what we can do, events to participate, etc. >> >> Regards >> Pablo >> >> >> >> El mar, 02-09-2008 a las 08:52 +0200, Victor Fernandez >> escribi?: >> >> > Hola Pablo, he visto que tu tambien eres un Fedora >> Ambassador (de >> > Spain no hay muchos ;-) y me gustaria aprovechar este correo >> para >> > presentarme y para ver si me podias orientar en que tipo de >> > actividades podemos participar sobre todo en el ambito >> hispano. >> > >> > Un abrazo y gracias de antemano. >> > >> > http://vfernandezg.blogspot.com >> > >> > 2008/9/2 Pablo Iranzo G?mez >> > Hi >> > My name is Pablo Iranzo, I live in Valencia, >> Spain and >> > I'm work as >> > consultant on FOSS projects. I began using Linux in >> 1993 and >> > more >> > seriously at university in 1995 and as sysadmin in >> 1997. >> > >> > During my period at university I was a member >> of LinUV >> > (http://linuv.uv.es) and became a member of our >> local LUG: >> > Valux >> > (www.valux.org). >> > >> > At both LUGS I've helped giving talks about >> system >> > administration, >> > utilities, guided installations, and FOSS in general >> as well >> > as giving >> > advice / troubleshooting to the assistants that came >> to our >> > party's >> > interested in the FOSS world. >> > >> > Regards >> > Pablo >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Pablo Iranzo G?mez (Pablo.Iranzo at redhat.com) >> > RHCE/RHCSP/RHCSS Global Profesional Services >> Consultant Spain >> > Phone: +34 645 01 01 49 (CET/CEST) >> > GnuPG KeyID: 0xFAD3CF0D >> > >> > -- >> > Inscrita en el Reg. Mercantil de Madrid ? C.I.F. >> B-82 65 79 41 >> > Directores: Michael Cunningham, Charlie Peters y >> David Owens >> > Direcci?n Registrada: Red Hat S.L., C/ Velazquez 63, >> Madrid >> > 28001, Espa?a >> > Direcci?n contacto: C/Jose Bardasano Baos, 9, Edif. >> Gorbea 3, >> > Planta 3?D, 28016 Madrid, Spain >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> -- >> >> >> Pablo Iranzo G?mez (Pablo.Iranzo at redhat.com) >> RHCE/RHCSP/RHCSS Global Profesional Services Consultant Spain >> Phone: +34 645 01 01 49 (CET/CEST) >> GnuPG KeyID: 0xFAD3CF0D >> >> -- >> Inscrita en el Reg. Mercantil de Madrid ? C.I.F. B-82 65 79 41 >> Directores: Michael Cunningham, Charlie Peters y David Owens >> Direcci?n Registrada: Red Hat S.L., C/ Velazquez 63, Madrid >> 28001, Espa?a >> Direcci?n contacto: C/Jose Bardasano Baos, 9, Edif. Gorbea 3, >> Planta 3?D, 28016 Madrid, Spain >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From foxhaund at gmail.com Wed Sep 3 05:11:49 2008 From: foxhaund at gmail.com (Foxhaund) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 09:11:49 +0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi! In-Reply-To: <1220338300.22487.20.camel@iranzo.users.redhat.com> References: <1220338300.22487.20.camel@iranzo.users.redhat.com> Message-ID: <511774140809022211m3c41ebffma936f41b49483b5a@mail.gmail.com> Hola, Pablo! Welcome to the family) 2008/9/2 Pablo Iranzo G?mez > Hi > My name is Pablo Iranzo, I live in Valencia, Spain and I'm work as > consultant on FOSS projects. I began using Linux in 1993 and more > seriously at university in 1995 and as sysadmin in 1997. > > During my period at university I was a member of LinUV > (http://linuv.uv.es) and became a member of our local LUG: Valux > (www.valux.org). > > At both LUGS I've helped giving talks about system administration, > utilities, guided installations, and FOSS in general as well as giving > advice / troubleshooting to the assistants that came to our party's > interested in the FOSS world. > > Regards > Pablo > > -- > > Pablo Iranzo G?mez (Pablo.Iranzo at redhat.com) > RHCE/RHCSP/RHCSS Global Profesional Services Consultant Spain > Phone: +34 645 01 01 49 (CET/CEST) > GnuPG KeyID: 0xFAD3CF0D > > -- > Inscrita en el Reg. Mercantil de Madrid ? C.I.F. B-82 65 79 41 > Directores: Michael Cunningham, Charlie Peters y David Owens > Direcci?n Registrada: Red Hat S.L., C/ Velazquez 63, Madrid 28001, Espa?a > Direcci?n contacto: C/Jose Bardasano Baos, 9, Edif. Gorbea 3, Planta 3?D, > 28016 Madrid, Spain > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- ____________________________________ Best Regards, Dmitry (Foxhaund) Vorotnikov.| http://foxhaund.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lnxknight at gmail.com Wed Sep 3 06:50:07 2008 From: lnxknight at gmail.com (Matt McKenzie) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 23:50:07 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassador IRC meeting Message-ID: Hello fellow NA Ambassadors, I would like to discuss the possibility of changing the weekly IRC NA Ambassador meeting to another day. I was able to attend for a while recently, but that has changed now. I have started band practice, which is Tuesday nights, which runs right into the meeting time. Practice is 7pm-9pm PST, the IRC meeting starts and 6pm PST and lasts until 7 or 8 depending, not to mention I get home at 5pm and still need to eat dinner before practice. This is a community concert band, both my wife and I are in it. I play French Horn and she plays Trombone. Pretty much any other day of the week would work for me, same time slot is OK (6pm PST, 9pm EST, 0100 UTC) I spoke with ke4qqq and he also liked the idea of Wednesday evenings (6pm Wednesday PST, 9pm Wednesday EST, 0100 Thursday UTC). I don't want to inconvenience anyone else, but I also don't want to miss these meetings. If we don't change the meeting time I won't be able to attend. So if any others would like (or wouldn't mind) and change in the time please let's discuss it. Again this is for the weekly North America IRC Ambassador meeting only. Thanks! -- ---------- Matt M. LinuxKnight -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kevin HIggins From bpowell01 at gmail.com Wed Sep 3 14:34:03 2008 From: bpowell01 at gmail.com (Brian Powell) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:34:03 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassador IRC meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <96365e610809030734k4016e7d5v39546e9ed12cb573@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Kevin Higgins wrote: > I would not mind it changing days would like the time to stay the same > though...could not attend last night's meeting had to get last minute > things for school for my daughter.. will be attending from now on > though.. > > Kevin HIggins > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Wednesday evenings would not be a problem for me would prefer the time stay the same as well. -- Regards, BrianPowell http://fedoraproject.org From inode0 at gmail.com Wed Sep 3 14:56:28 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 09:56:28 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassador IRC meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/9/3 Matt McKenzie : > Hello fellow NA Ambassadors, > I would like to discuss the possibility of changing the weekly IRC NA > Ambassador meeting to another day. > I was able to attend for a while recently, but that has changed now. > > I have started band practice, which is Tuesday nights, which runs right into > the meeting time. Practice is 7pm-9pm PST, the IRC meeting starts and 6pm > PST and lasts until 7 or 8 depending, not to mention I get home at 5pm and > still need to eat dinner before practice. This is a community concert band, > both my wife and I are in it. I play French Horn and she plays Trombone. > > Pretty much any other day of the week would work for me, same time slot is > OK (6pm PST, 9pm EST, 0100 UTC) > I spoke with ke4qqq and he also liked the idea of Wednesday evenings (6pm > Wednesday PST, 9pm Wednesday EST, 0100 Thursday UTC). > > I don't want to inconvenience anyone else, but I also don't want to miss > these meetings. > If we don't change the meeting time I won't be able to attend. > So if any others would like (or wouldn't mind) and change in the time please > let's discuss it. > > Again this is for the weekly North America IRC Ambassador meeting only. Having been involved in meeting scheduling many times before I do have some concerns about making changes like this. One thing is that there will always be someone who the time doesn't work out well for, so we'll likely get other requests for other times/days no matter what we settle on. Worse, people have already made changes to their schedules to accommodate the current time and changing it now means they need to again make changes and with the expectation that it might well change again in another month or two. I'd suggest leaving it as is for some period of time, as the base grows and more people want to actively participate in the meetings revisit the time periodically (maybe on an annual or semi-annual basis or something). John From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Wed Sep 3 16:17:53 2008 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 09:17:53 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassador IRC meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7a0d56080809030917x4784e211g5712c294acd6d857@mail.gmail.com> Meeting last night? Oops. I have a class on Tuesday evening from 5:30 to 9:30 pacific time, and while I can normally sit in the back of the class and attend an IRC meeting (under the cover of "schoolwork" -- it's a Linux programming class -- but yesterday I just plain forgot), I sort of fall in the same category as Matt until December. [Matt -- I used to play the french horn as well . . .] I do agree with inode0, though -- we changed it once recently and it may have caused others to change schedules to accommodate the meeting. While revisiting the meeting time/date every few months or so, I would also like to get a sense of the group to see how locked in to Tuesday evenings we are. So how locked in to Tuesday evenings (Wednesday morning UTC, I know) are we? Larry Cafiero PS -- I plan to agendize the news media "how-to" wiki for the next meeting, just as a matter of an update. If all goes as planned, it should be finished by Tuesday. On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:56 AM, inode0 wrote: > 2008/9/3 Matt McKenzie : >> Hello fellow NA Ambassadors, >> I would like to discuss the possibility of changing the weekly IRC NA >> Ambassador meeting to another day. >> I was able to attend for a while recently, but that has changed now. >> >> I have started band practice, which is Tuesday nights, which runs right into >> the meeting time. Practice is 7pm-9pm PST, the IRC meeting starts and 6pm >> PST and lasts until 7 or 8 depending, not to mention I get home at 5pm and >> still need to eat dinner before practice. This is a community concert band, >> both my wife and I are in it. I play French Horn and she plays Trombone. >> >> Pretty much any other day of the week would work for me, same time slot is >> OK (6pm PST, 9pm EST, 0100 UTC) >> I spoke with ke4qqq and he also liked the idea of Wednesday evenings (6pm >> Wednesday PST, 9pm Wednesday EST, 0100 Thursday UTC). >> >> I don't want to inconvenience anyone else, but I also don't want to miss >> these meetings. >> If we don't change the meeting time I won't be able to attend. >> So if any others would like (or wouldn't mind) and change in the time please >> let's discuss it. >> >> Again this is for the weekly North America IRC Ambassador meeting only. > > Having been involved in meeting scheduling many times before I do have > some concerns about making changes like this. One thing is that there > will always be someone who the time doesn't work out well for, so > we'll likely get other requests for other times/days no matter what we > settle on. Worse, people have already made changes to their schedules > to accommodate the current time and changing it now means they need to > again make changes and with the expectation that it might well change > again in another month or two. > > I'd suggest leaving it as is for some period of time, as the base > grows and more people want to actively participate in the meetings > revisit the time periodically (maybe on an annual or semi-annual basis > or something). > > John > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From linux.charged at gmail.com Wed Sep 3 18:20:57 2008 From: linux.charged at gmail.com (Junior Tomazelli) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 15:20:57 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi! 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Even a single set will suffice as I'll use it as a shared property ,anybody needing can use it and then return the same to me.. Extras will be even better .. Can you help ? Thanks .. Rajan Vaish p.s - Let me know,when you need the address .. Thanks ! 2008/9/2 Tushar Neupaney > Great! I will send them to you. > > Is there anything else we can help you from here. It will be my pleasure. > > Tushar. > > On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 08:07 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > > Hi Tushar, > > Currently, Fedora 10 is not released. It is going to be release on 18th > November. You can download it from 18 November onwards. I am organising > Fedora 10 Release party so Fedora 9 will not suit there. > > You can send me the dvd's to > > B. Rishikesh Sharma > C/o. Computer Solutions > Sagolband Moirang Leirak Manung > Opp. Popular High School > Imphal West - 795001 > Manipur, India. > > > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Tushar Neupaney < > tushar.neupaney at gmail.com> wrote: > > Sorry Rishikesh I don't have Fedora 10 DVD right now. > We don't have even one. > > I can by the way provide you with Fedora 9 CDs that I have. > > Can someone suggest me on how to get Fedora 10 DVD. I can burn them for > Rishikesh. > > And please and write me your address so that I can send them to you. > > Tushar. > > > > > On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 22:30 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > > Hi Tushar, > > Thank you for your kind co-operation. You can send me 30 Nos of Fedora 10 > DVD. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Tushar Neupaney* > Date: 2008/8/26 > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > Thanks Franceso, > > Rishikesh you can write a mail to me @: tneupaney at gmail.com. > I am looking at how many CDs can we provide (Put it near 30). And I can > send you Fedora 9. > > Thank you. > > Tushar. > > > > On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 11:52 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > > 2008/8/26 Rishikesh Sharma : > > Hi All, > > > > Please help me to organize a Fedora Event in my region for the first time. > > What are the required procedure to organize such event. I need assistance > > from you all. > > > > Regards, > > Rishikesh Sharma > > FA, Imphal, Manipur. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Francesco Ugolini > > Date: Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > > > 2008/8/22 Rishikesh Sharma : > >> Hi All, > >> > >> I want to organise Fedora Event, maybe Fedora 10 release or media > >> distribution in my region for the very first time. I am also the only > >> fedora > >> ambassador in my region. So, i would like to organise fedora event for the > >> first time in my region. Please help and support me to organise such event > >> in my region for the first time. > >> > >> > >> Rishikesh Sharma > >> Fedora Ambassador > >> Imphal, Manipur, India. > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > >> > > > > That's a great news. > > > > What Sankarshan said is complete and perfect. I'm sure APAC community > > could help you better than anyone, but if you have more doubts feel > > free to ask here. > > > > Regards > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > Francesco Ugolini > > > > First thing stay in contact with the other ambassadors around you > (thanks Tushar for the availability). Secondly seehttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and add your event there. > > An advice: to request resources from FAmSCo you need to add your event > one month before the beginning of the fiscal quarter, for example now > you are late if you want to ask for resources for Q3 (September - > November), but if you are considering creating/joining an event in the > next quarter Q4 (December - February) you could be able to make the > request (then FAmSCo will decide about this one). > > This was the formal side of answer, for the informal one I could only > say: remember when you are in a public event you represent Fedora, and > what you say is what people referring to Fedora. 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I can burn them for > Rishikesh. > > And please and write me your address so that I can send them to you. > > Tushar. > > On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 22:30 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: >> Hi Tushar, >> >> Thank you for your kind co-operation. You can send me 30 Nos of Fedora >> 10 DVD. >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Tushar Neupaney >> Date: 2008/8/26 >> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region >> To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> >> >> >> Thanks Franceso, >> >> Rishikesh you can write a mail to me @: tneupaney at gmail.com. >> I am looking at how many CDs can we provide (Put it near 30). And I >> can send you Fedora 9. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Tushar. >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 11:52 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: >> >> > 2008/8/26 Rishikesh Sharma : >> > > Hi All, >> > > >> > > Please help me to organize a Fedora Event in my region for the first >> > > time. >> > > What are the required procedure to organize such event. I need >> > > assistance >> > > from you all. >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > Rishikesh Sharma >> > > FA, Imphal, Manipur. >> > > >> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> > > From: Francesco Ugolini >> > > Date: Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:45 PM >> > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region >> > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> > > >> > > >> > > 2008/8/22 Rishikesh Sharma : >> > >> Hi All, >> > >> >> > >> I want to organise Fedora Event, maybe Fedora 10 release or media >> > >> distribution in my region for the very first time. I am also the only >> > >> fedora >> > >> ambassador in my region. So, i would like to organise fedora event >> > >> for the >> > >> first time in my region. Please help and support me to organise such >> > >> event >> > >> in my region for the first time. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Rishikesh Sharma >> > >> Fedora Ambassador >> > >> Imphal, Manipur, India. >> > >> -- >> > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> > > That's a great news. >> > > >> > > What Sankarshan said is complete and perfect. I'm sure APAC community >> > > could help you better than anyone, but if you have more doubts feel >> > > free to ask here. >> > > >> > > Regards >> > > >> > > Francesco Ugolini >> > > Francesco Ugolini >> > > >> > >> > First thing stay in contact with the other ambassadors around you >> > (thanks Tushar for the availability). Secondly see >> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and add your event there. >> > >> > An advice: to request resources from FAmSCo you need to add your event >> > one month before the beginning of the fiscal quarter, for example now >> > you are late if you want to ask for resources for Q3 (September - >> > November), but if you are considering creating/joining an event in the >> > next quarter Q4 (December - February) you could be able to make the >> > request (then FAmSCo will decide about this one). >> > >> > This was the formal side of answer, for the informal one I could only >> > say: remember when you are in a public event you represent Fedora, and >> > what you say is what people referring to Fedora. Another one: Be >> > friendly and mix the technical skills with the joyful side: people >> > will like this one. >> > >> > For the technical side: if you have a booth try to organize it in a >> > well way so that people could see what Fedora people are offering >> > (e.g. show a demo station with fedora). >> > >> > That's what I can say, naturally I'm pretty sure people around you, >> > like Tushar could be more helpful than me. >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Francesco Ugolini >> > >> > Naturally, feel free to ask here or FAmSCo. >> > >> > -- >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> >> >> > From kwade at redhat.com Wed Sep 3 22:48:33 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:48:33 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassador IRC meeting In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080809030917x4784e211g5712c294acd6d857@mail.gmail.com> References: <7a0d56080809030917x4784e211g5712c294acd6d857@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1220482113.7309.135.camel@calliope.phig.org> On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 09:17 -0700, Larry Cafiero wrote: > While revisiting the meeting time/date every few months or so, I would > also like to get a sense of the group to see how locked in to Tuesday > evenings we are. As much as I hate them .... Doing a wiki page that shows all the time slots available might work? We can stick to a slot of time such as evenings, if that is a consensus. E.g.: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/SteeringCommittee/Meetings/Scheduler > So how locked in to Tuesday evenings (Wednesday morning UTC, I know) are we? For that, I'm not; I suppose I could do Mon and Wed equally well. Thu and Fri I don't think I can do. Weekends are iffy. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:48:33 To: Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassador IRC meeting -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From lajjr at yahoo.com Thu Sep 4 00:47:24 2008 From: lajjr at yahoo.com (Leo Jackson) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Hello everyone... Message-ID: <100165.9279.qm@web84303.mail.re1.yahoo.com> My name Leo Jackson from Scranton area in Pa. I always wanted to contribute in Fedora in any way possible. I have downloaded the disks and bought the disks from Linux store. I will be creating software and patches for fedora. I have MS in computer science, MS in Graphics and Animation, I own my own business where we have multi operating system on the computer and the main one used on systems is Linux "Fedora" we have several embedded and other projects going on. We will make available to all our programmers and the community. And to all the people using the system. Leo Albert Jackson Jr Owner Head Programmer LJ's Electronics and Software From bpowell01 at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 01:08:49 2008 From: bpowell01 at gmail.com (Brian Powell) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 21:08:49 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hello everyone... In-Reply-To: <100165.9279.qm@web84303.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <100165.9279.qm@web84303.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <96365e610809031808l395a9209od83fabc824f82647@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Leo Jackson wrote: > My name Leo Jackson from Scranton area in Pa. I always wanted to contribute in Fedora in any way possible. I have downloaded the disks and bought the disks from Linux store. I will be creating software and patches for fedora. I have MS in computer science, MS in Graphics and Animation, I own my own business where we have multi operating system on the computer and the main one used on systems is Linux "Fedora" we have several embedded and other projects going on. We will make available to all our programmers and the community. And to all the people using the system. > > Leo Albert Jackson Jr > Owner Head Programmer > LJ's Electronics and Software > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Welcome Leo to the Ambassadors team! Nice to see someone from my old neck of the woods helping out, I used to live near Hershey, PA -- Regards, BrianPowell http://fedoraproject.org From bpowell01 at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 01:11:20 2008 From: bpowell01 at gmail.com (Brian Powell) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 21:11:20 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassador IRC meeting In-Reply-To: <1157399635-1220484120-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-935652703-@bxe135.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <7a0d56080809030917x4784e211g5712c294acd6d857@mail.gmail.com> <1220482113.7309.135.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1157399635-1220484120-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-935652703-@bxe135.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <96365e610809031811k5e3d3bcdwb0fa11ee4b7ba6c@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:22 PM, wrote: > May I suggest whenever one tree hill is on on the East coast. My wife has to watch it. I could easily meet during that time. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" > > Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:48:33 > To: > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassador IRC meeting > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > LOL! That is too funny... -- Regards, BrianPowell http://fedoraproject.org From thecyberxp at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 01:12:21 2008 From: thecyberxp at gmail.com (Wael Ammar) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 03:12:21 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] A greeting from Tunisia Message-ID: <11204d710809031812n22b66dc6x988113c8c0c82a67@mail.gmail.com> Hello everybody, My name is Wael Ammar, I have 22 year old and I'm studing computer science, I use Fedora since 3 year now and I'm glad to represent Fedora in my country => Tunisia, as an Ambassador. I did many manifestation in my institute and I'm the vice president of a free sofware club and one of the four founding member of Fedora Tunisia Team. I plan to contribute at Fedora in two project : translation and packaging. I hope that I will find a good help. -- Wael Ammar (TheCyberXP) Tunisian Fedora Ambassador Vice President Club FreeWays My WebBlog : http://thecyberxp.tuxfamily.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We will make available to all our programmers and > the community. And to all the people using the system. > > > > Leo Albert Jackson Jr > > Owner Head Programmer > > LJ's Electronics and Software > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > Welcome Leo to the Ambassadors team! > > Nice to see someone from my old neck of the woods helping out, I used > to live near Hershey, PA > > -- > Regards, > > BrianPowell > http://fedoraproject.org > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > :::: CONTRIBUA COM O MEIO AMBIENTE. N?O IMPRIMA ESTA MENSAGEM ::::: > > > -- -- Atenciosamente, Lucas do Amaral Saboya CEFET-CE - UAB-CE. 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Admin (CEFETCE/UAB)) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 22:25:17 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] A greeting from Tunisia In-Reply-To: <11204d710809031812n22b66dc6x988113c8c0c82a67@mail.gmail.com> References: <11204d710809031812n22b66dc6x988113c8c0c82a67@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: welcome aboard! :) 2008/9/3 Wael Ammar > Hello everybody, > My name is Wael Ammar, I have 22 year old and I'm studing computer science, > I use Fedora since 3 year now and I'm glad to represent Fedora in my country > => Tunisia, as an Ambassador. > I did many manifestation in my institute and I'm the vice president of a > free sofware club and one of the four founding member of Fedora Tunisia > Team. > I plan to contribute at Fedora in two project : translation and packaging. > > I hope that I will find a good help. > > -- > Wael Ammar (TheCyberXP) > Tunisian Fedora Ambassador > Vice President Club FreeWays > My WebBlog : http://thecyberxp.tuxfamily.org/ > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. > > :::: CONTRIBUA COM O MEIO AMBIENTE. N?O IMPRIMA ESTA MENSAGEM ::::: > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- -- Atenciosamente, Lucas do Amaral Saboya CEFET-CE - UAB-CE. Linux System Administrator Fedora Ambassador & Fedora Translator -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at gnsa.us Thu Sep 4 01:25:25 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 21:25:25 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hello everyone... In-Reply-To: <100165.9279.qm@web84303.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <100165.9279.qm@web84303.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Leo Jackson wrote: > My name Leo Jackson from Scranton area in Pa. I always wanted to contribute in Fedora in any way possible. I have downloaded the disks and bought the disks from Linux store. I will be creating software and patches for fedora. I have MS in computer science, MS in Graphics and Animation, I own my own business where we have multi operating system on the computer and the main one used on systems is Linux "Fedora" we have several embedded and other projects going on. We will make available to all our programmers and the community. And to all the people using the system. > > Leo Albert Jackson Jr > Owner Head Programmer > LJ's Electronics and Software > Welcome Leo, A couple of things, the North American Ambassadors meeting is every Tuesday night at 9pm Eastern in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net, we'd love to have you come and join us. Throughout the day and night a significant number of us hang out in #fedora-mktg and #fedora-ambassadors on irc.freenode.net, and you are welcome to hang out as well. There are a couple of events coming up in the not too distant future that are relatively soon. One is Ohio Linux Fest (http://ohiolinux.org) on Oct 11 in Columbus, Ohio. That looks to be about 7 hours away - and I mention it because we are having a Fedora Ambassadors Day there. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADNA2008 Then Oct 19th is the Central Pennsylvania Open Source Conference - Yaakov Nemoy is heading up that event, but it looks like we'll have multiple Ambassadors there, so it should be a nice time to get out and meet a few people. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/CPOSC/2008 Finally - it's often a bit bewildering to join an F/LOSS project, please don't hesitate to ask questions or seek help from us. Thanks, David Nalley From lnxknight at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 01:33:19 2008 From: lnxknight at gmail.com (Matt McKenzie) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 18:33:19 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassador IRC meeting In-Reply-To: <96365e610809031811k5e3d3bcdwb0fa11ee4b7ba6c@mail.gmail.com> References: <7a0d56080809030917x4784e211g5712c294acd6d857@mail.gmail.com> <1220482113.7309.135.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1157399635-1220484120-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-935652703-@bxe135.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <96365e610809031811k5e3d3bcdwb0fa11ee4b7ba6c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: OK so we have this consensus so far: Any day but Tuesday, same time slot (9pm EST, 6pm PST, 0100 next morning UTC) wouldn't mind change to any other day, same time slot Wednesday evenings, same time slot keep it on Tuesday for now (couple months at least) keep it for now, but open to change if consensus agrees Monday or Wednesday evenings, same time slot, suggestion for Wiki planner page One Tree Hill time slot...? So to boil it down, we have basically 5 votes to change it to some other day, keeping same time slot (9pm EST/6pm PST), and 2 votes to keep it on Tuesdays, with one of those open to suggestion of the consensus now, and the other keeping it as is for a few months anyway. As I said when I started this I don't want to inconvenience everyone else, but I thought I would put this out at least, and see if anyone else wouldn't mind the change, or wanted to change but hasn't spoken of it yet (sort of trying to be the first one in class to raise their hand, though a lot of people have the same question, kind of thing). Anyone else? -- ---------- Matt M. LinuxKnight -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I currently do a radio show 8:00-10:00 pm every Wednesday, so likely would not be able to make the meetings, but I am only one voice so that should not hold up the rest of the group. - pascal Quoting Matt McKenzie : > OK so we have this consensus so far: > > Any day but Tuesday, same time slot (9pm EST, 6pm PST, 0100 next morning > UTC) > wouldn't mind change to any other day, same time slot > Wednesday evenings, same time slot > keep it on Tuesday for now (couple months at least) > keep it for now, but open to change if consensus agrees > Monday or Wednesday evenings, same time slot, suggestion for Wiki planner > page > One Tree Hill time slot...? > > So to boil it down, we have basically 5 votes to change it to some other > day, keeping same time slot (9pm EST/6pm PST), and 2 votes to keep it on > Tuesdays, with one of those open to suggestion of the consensus now, and the > other keeping it as is for a few months anyway. > > As I said when I started this I don't want to inconvenience everyone else, > but I thought I would put this out at least, and see if anyone else wouldn't > mind the change, or wanted to change but hasn't spoken of it yet (sort of > trying to be the first one in class to raise their hand, though a lot of > people have the same question, kind of thing). > > Anyone else? > > > -- > ---------- > Matt M. > LinuxKnight > From vwfoxguru at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 01:39:38 2008 From: vwfoxguru at gmail.com (vwfoxguru at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 01:39:38 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassador IRC meeting In-Reply-To: <1220492198.48bf3ba6c4d54@webmail.nd.edu> References: <7a0d56080809030917x4784e211g5712c294acd6d857@mail.gmail.com><1220482113.7309.135.camel@calliope.phig.org><1157399635-1220484120-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-935652703-@bxe135.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><96365e610809031811k5e3d3bcdwb0fa11ee4b7ba6c@mail.gmail.com><1220492198.48bf3ba6c4d54@webmail.nd.edu> Message-ID: <245960496-1220492359-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-865391877-@bxe135.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Thursday works better for me. 7 or 8 PM EST on Tuesday or Thursday. 9 gets pretty late with my new work schedule. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: pcalarco at nd.edu Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 21:36:38 To: ; Matt McKenzie Cc: Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassador IRC meeting I'm open to moving it to where the most folk can regularly attend. I currently do a radio show 8:00-10:00 pm every Wednesday, so likely would not be able to make the meetings, but I am only one voice so that should not hold up the rest of the group. - pascal Quoting Matt McKenzie : > OK so we have this consensus so far: > > Any day but Tuesday, same time slot (9pm EST, 6pm PST, 0100 next morning > UTC) > wouldn't mind change to any other day, same time slot > Wednesday evenings, same time slot > keep it on Tuesday for now (couple months at least) > keep it for now, but open to change if consensus agrees > Monday or Wednesday evenings, same time slot, suggestion for Wiki planner > page > One Tree Hill time slot...? > > So to boil it down, we have basically 5 votes to change it to some other > day, keeping same time slot (9pm EST/6pm PST), and 2 votes to keep it on > Tuesdays, with one of those open to suggestion of the consensus now, and the > other keeping it as is for a few months anyway. > > As I said when I started this I don't want to inconvenience everyone else, > but I thought I would put this out at least, and see if anyone else wouldn't > mind the change, or wanted to change but hasn't spoken of it yet (sort of > trying to be the first one in class to raise their hand, though a lot of > people have the same question, kind of thing). > > Anyone else? > > > -- > ---------- > Matt M. > LinuxKnight > -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From inode0 at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 02:30:19 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 21:30:19 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassador IRC meeting In-Reply-To: <245960496-1220492359-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-865391877-@bxe135.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <7a0d56080809030917x4784e211g5712c294acd6d857@mail.gmail.com> <1220482113.7309.135.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1157399635-1220484120-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-935652703-@bxe135.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <96365e610809031811k5e3d3bcdwb0fa11ee4b7ba6c@mail.gmail.com> <1220492198.48bf3ba6c4d54@webmail.nd.edu> <245960496-1220492359-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-865391877-@bxe135.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:39 PM, wrote: > Thursday works better for me. 7 or 8 PM EST on Tuesday or Thursday. 9 gets pretty late with my new work schedule. 7 out east is 4 out west, not good. Anything before 6 on the west coast is unlikely to be very effective at attracting people from that side of the continent. If the meeting is on a work night I have a very strong preference for Tuesday or Wednesday. I do think the general idea of meeting when the most people can meet is a great one. I just don't think it should be voted on and changed on a monthly basis. The ambassador pool will be growing if we are successful in our mission and what is the best time will also be changing. Another option I'll float now, even though I know there will be some resistance to it. There isn't any law requiring a weekly meeting to meet the same day and time each week. Doing otherwise has two drawbacks at least. One is that some people will just get confused about when the meeting is and miss it. The other is that we get something of a Venn diagram of participants, some attending at all times, some at one, some at another. Having a unified voice and making joint decisions at meetings is then problematic. Despite those problems I would prefer an alternating schedule of 9pm EST on Tuesdays with another time that makes people reasonably happy the following week. If that day were Monday or Wednesday there wouldn't be much impact from long or short weeks. If the time comes when we scale back to maybe two meetings per month this might work better, 1st Tuesday and 3rd Wednesday or something like that. John From lajjr at yahoo.com Thu Sep 4 02:31:07 2008 From: lajjr at yahoo.com (Leo Jackson) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 19:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Hello everyone... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <426955.75204.qm@web84301.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Thanks...., Hershey, PA gotta love the chocolate...LOL...thanks again. Leo Albert Jackson Jr Owner Head Programmer LJ's Electronics and Software --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Lucas - Linux Sys. Admin (CEFETCE/UAB) wrote: > From: Lucas - Linux Sys. Admin (CEFETCE/UAB) > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Hello everyone... > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 9:24 PM > welcome aboard dude :) > > 2008/9/3 Brian Powell > > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Leo Jackson > wrote: > > > My name Leo Jackson from Scranton area in Pa. I > always wanted to > > contribute in Fedora in any way possible. I have > downloaded the disks and > > bought the disks from Linux store. I will be creating > software and patches > > for fedora. I have MS in computer science, MS in > Graphics and Animation, I > > own my own business where we have multi operating > system on the computer and > > the main one used on systems is Linux > "Fedora" we have several embedded and > > other projects going on. We will make available to all > our programmers and > > the community. And to all the people using the system. > > > > > > Leo Albert Jackson Jr > > > Owner Head Programmer > > > LJ's Electronics and Software > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > Welcome Leo to the Ambassadors team! > > > > Nice to see someone from my old neck of the woods > helping out, I used > > to live near Hershey, PA > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > BrianPowell > > http://fedoraproject.org > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > > > > :::: CONTRIBUA COM O MEIO AMBIENTE. N?O IMPRIMA ESTA > MENSAGEM ::::: > > > > > > > > > -- > -- > Atenciosamente, > Lucas do Amaral Saboya > > CEFET-CE - UAB-CE. > Linux System Administrator > Fedora Ambassador & Fedora Translator > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From vwfoxguru at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 02:39:01 2008 From: vwfoxguru at gmail.com (vwfoxguru at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 02:39:01 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassador IRC meeting In-Reply-To: References: <7a0d56080809030917x4784e211g5712c294acd6d857@mail.gmail.com><1220482113.7309.135.camel@calliope.phig.org><1157399635-1220484120-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-935652703-@bxe135.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><96365e610809031811k5e3d3bcdwb0fa11ee4b7ba6c@mail.gmail.com><1220492198.48bf3ba6c4d54@webmail.nd.edu><245960496-1220492359-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-865391877-@bxe135.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <276617238-1220495922-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1789687254-@bxe135.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> It wouldn't be such a problem if Indiana would just quit screwing with it's time zones. Or else 9 would have been just right. Blah. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: inode0 Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 21:30:19 To: Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassador IRC meeting On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:39 PM, wrote: > Thursday works better for me. 7 or 8 PM EST on Tuesday or Thursday. 9 gets pretty late with my new work schedule. 7 out east is 4 out west, not good. Anything before 6 on the west coast is unlikely to be very effective at attracting people from that side of the continent. If the meeting is on a work night I have a very strong preference for Tuesday or Wednesday. I do think the general idea of meeting when the most people can meet is a great one. I just don't think it should be voted on and changed on a monthly basis. The ambassador pool will be growing if we are successful in our mission and what is the best time will also be changing. Another option I'll float now, even though I know there will be some resistance to it. There isn't any law requiring a weekly meeting to meet the same day and time each week. Doing otherwise has two drawbacks at least. One is that some people will just get confused about when the meeting is and miss it. The other is that we get something of a Venn diagram of participants, some attending at all times, some at one, some at another. Having a unified voice and making joint decisions at meetings is then problematic. Despite those problems I would prefer an alternating schedule of 9pm EST on Tuesdays with another time that makes people reasonably happy the following week. If that day were Monday or Wednesday there wouldn't be much impact from long or short weeks. If the time comes when we scale back to maybe two meetings per month this might work better, 1st Tuesday and 3rd Wednesday or something like that. John -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From inode0 at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 02:39:20 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 21:39:20 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassador IRC meeting In-Reply-To: References: <7a0d56080809030917x4784e211g5712c294acd6d857@mail.gmail.com> <1220482113.7309.135.camel@calliope.phig.org> <1157399635-1220484120-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-935652703-@bxe135.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <96365e610809031811k5e3d3bcdwb0fa11ee4b7ba6c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/3 Matt McKenzie : > OK so we have this consensus so far: > > Any day but Tuesday, same time slot (9pm EST, 6pm PST, 0100 next morning > UTC) > wouldn't mind change to any other day, same time slot > Wednesday evenings, same time slot > keep it on Tuesday for now (couple months at least) > keep it for now, but open to change if consensus agrees > Monday or Wednesday evenings, same time slot, suggestion for Wiki planner > page > One Tree Hill time slot...? Those are 7 different opinions, not a consensus. > So to boil it down, we have basically 5 votes to change it to some other > day, keeping same time slot (9pm EST/6pm PST), and 2 votes to keep it on > Tuesdays, with one of those open to suggestion of the consensus now, and the > other keeping it as is for a few months anyway. If we are going to vote it is going to be far more complicated. There are 168 hours per week. So we each will cast a ballot assigning a number from 0 to 168 for each hour of the week. Six weeks later we will have the results of the 3 ballots tabulated and declare the winning hour. :) John From tushar.neupaney at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 05:04:20 2008 From: tushar.neupaney at gmail.com (Tushar Neupaney) Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:49:20 +0545 Subject: Fwd: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region In-Reply-To: <8140ab7e0809031200s7622d4f7l3eea19d748c5cb75@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60808212121t10a6ff56n72453c186722d005@mail.gmail.com> <7cb778c60808252028p5f6a51fej16169f2c9fe6cef7@mail.gmail.com> <1219749001.10251.10.camel@tushar-laptop> <7cb778c60809011000y2bff16fbtf62a00d170429785@mail.gmail.com> <1220322063.7602.2.camel@tushar-laptop> <7cb778c60809011937q1c351731gfe74442c98a5a6da@mail.gmail.com> <1220343220.15072.9.camel@tushar-laptop> <8140ab7e0809031200s7622d4f7l3eea19d748c5cb75@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1220504660.20577.5.camel@tushar-laptop> Hello Rajan, Good news that fedora is burning hot in Himanchal pradesh too. Keep up the good work guys. And send me your address so that I can send the cds to you. I will be sending 5 of them right now. Because it will travel a long way, for worst case scenario you will at least have a working copy. Wishes and keep posting up. Tushar. On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 00:30 +0530, rajan vaish wrote: > Hi Tushar, > Sorry,I got on this conversation pretty late .But I need similar > help.I am from Jaypee University of Information > Technology,Solan,Himachal Pradesh .And students here have shown keen > interest in using Linux but few of them inspite of their desire to use > Fedora are unable to use it,because what I have is DVD of Fedora 9 but > many students here don't have DVD drives in their computer hence I was > wondering if I can get a set of Fedora 9 CD's that would solve the > purpose . > Even a single set will suffice as I'll use it as a shared > property ,anybody needing can use it and then return the same to me.. > Extras will be even better .. Can you help ? > Thanks .. > Rajan Vaish > p.s - Let me know,when you need the address .. Thanks ! > > > 2008/9/2 Tushar Neupaney > > Great! I will send them to you. > > Is there anything else we can help you from here. It will be > my pleasure. > > Tushar. > > > > On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 08:07 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > > > > Hi Tushar, > > > > Currently, Fedora 10 is not released. It is going to be > > release on 18th November. You can download it from 18 > > November onwards. I am organising Fedora 10 Release party so > > Fedora 9 will not suit there. > > > > You can send me the dvd's to > > > > B. Rishikesh Sharma > > C/o. Computer Solutions > > Sagolband Moirang Leirak Manung > > Opp. Popular High School > > Imphal West - 795001 > > Manipur, India. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Tushar Neupaney > > wrote: > > > > Sorry Rishikesh I don't have Fedora 10 DVD right > > now. > > We don't have even one. > > > > I can by the way provide you with Fedora 9 CDs that > > I have. > > > > Can someone suggest me on how to get Fedora 10 DVD. > > I can burn them for Rishikesh. > > > > And please and write me your address so that I can > > send them to you. > > > > Tushar. > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 22:30 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Tushar, > > > > > > Thank you for your kind co-operation. You can send > > > me 30 Nos of Fedora 10 DVD. > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > From: Tushar Neupaney > > > Date: 2008/8/26 > > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora > > > Event in my Region > > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > > > > > > Thanks Franceso, > > > > > > Rishikesh you can write a mail to me @: > > > tneupaney at gmail.com. > > > I am looking at how many CDs can we provide (Put > > > it near 30). And I can send you Fedora 9. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > Tushar. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 11:52 +0200, Francesco > > > Ugolini wrote: > > > > > > > 2008/8/26 Rishikesh Sharma : > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > Please help me to organize a Fedora Event in my region for the first time. > > > > > What are the required procedure to organize such event. I need assistance > > > > > from you all. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rishikesh Sharma > > > > > FA, Imphal, Manipur. > > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > > From: Francesco Ugolini > > > > > Date: Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:45 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region > > > > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2008/8/22 Rishikesh Sharma : > > > > >> Hi All, > > > > >> > > > > >> I want to organise Fedora Event, maybe Fedora 10 release or media > > > > >> distribution in my region for the very first time. I am also the only > > > > >> fedora > > > > >> ambassador in my region. So, i would like to organise fedora event for the > > > > >> first time in my region. Please help and support me to organise such event > > > > >> in my region for the first time. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Rishikesh Sharma > > > > >> Fedora Ambassador > > > > >> Imphal, Manipur, India. > > > > >> -- > > > > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > That's a great news. > > > > > > > > > > What Sankarshan said is complete and perfect. I'm sure APAC community > > > > > could help you better than anyone, but if you have more doubts feel > > > > > free to ask here. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > > > > > > > > > > > > First thing stay in contact with the other ambassadors around you > > > > (thanks Tushar for the availability). Secondly see > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and add your event there. > > > > > > > > An advice: to request resources from FAmSCo you need to add your event > > > > one month before the beginning of the fiscal quarter, for example now > > > > you are late if you want to ask for resources for Q3 (September - > > > > November), but if you are considering creating/joining an event in the > > > > next quarter Q4 (December - February) you could be able to make the > > > > request (then FAmSCo will decide about this one). > > > > > > > > This was the formal side of answer, for the informal one I could only > > > > say: remember when you are in a public event you represent Fedora, and > > > > what you say is what people referring to Fedora. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From vfernandezg at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 05:27:57 2008 From: vfernandezg at gmail.com (Victor Fernandez) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 07:27:57 +0200 Subject: Fwd: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region In-Reply-To: <23edaffd0809031208yf226caco6c1a6bce95822880@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60808212121t10a6ff56n72453c186722d005@mail.gmail.com> <7cb778c60808252028p5f6a51fej16169f2c9fe6cef7@mail.gmail.com> <1219749001.10251.10.camel@tushar-laptop> <7cb778c60809011000y2bff16fbtf62a00d170429785@mail.gmail.com> <1220322063.7602.2.camel@tushar-laptop> <23edaffd0809031208yf226caco6c1a6bce95822880@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <23edaffd0809032227uf10ee5eg43dab92ecb3ae69@mail.gmail.com> Tushar? 2008/9/3, Victor Fernandez : > Thanks Tushar, how could we get some (10-30) DVDs of Fedora 9, for the > spanish ambassadors? > > Best regards. > > 2008/9/2, Tushar Neupaney : >> Sorry Rishikesh I don't have Fedora 10 DVD right now. >> We don't have even one. >> >> I can by the way provide you with Fedora 9 CDs that I have. >> >> Can someone suggest me on how to get Fedora 10 DVD. I can burn them for >> Rishikesh. >> >> And please and write me your address so that I can send them to you. >> >> Tushar. >> >> On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 22:30 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: >>> Hi Tushar, >>> >>> Thank you for your kind co-operation. You can send me 30 Nos of Fedora >>> 10 DVD. >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Tushar Neupaney >>> Date: 2008/8/26 >>> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region >>> To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks Franceso, >>> >>> Rishikesh you can write a mail to me @: tneupaney at gmail.com. >>> I am looking at how many CDs can we provide (Put it near 30). And I >>> can send you Fedora 9. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Tushar. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 11:52 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: >>> >>> > 2008/8/26 Rishikesh Sharma : >>> > > Hi All, >>> > > >>> > > Please help me to organize a Fedora Event in my region for the first >>> > > time. >>> > > What are the required procedure to organize such event. I need >>> > > assistance >>> > > from you all. >>> > > >>> > > Regards, >>> > > Rishikesh Sharma >>> > > FA, Imphal, Manipur. >>> > > >>> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> > > From: Francesco Ugolini >>> > > Date: Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:45 PM >>> > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region >>> > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > 2008/8/22 Rishikesh Sharma : >>> > >> Hi All, >>> > >> >>> > >> I want to organise Fedora Event, maybe Fedora 10 release or media >>> > >> distribution in my region for the very first time. I am also the >>> > >> only >>> > >> fedora >>> > >> ambassador in my region. So, i would like to organise fedora event >>> > >> for the >>> > >> first time in my region. Please help and support me to organise such >>> > >> event >>> > >> in my region for the first time. >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> Rishikesh Sharma >>> > >> Fedora Ambassador >>> > >> Imphal, Manipur, India. >>> > >> -- >>> > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > > >>> > > That's a great news. >>> > > >>> > > What Sankarshan said is complete and perfect. I'm sure APAC community >>> > > could help you better than anyone, but if you have more doubts feel >>> > > free to ask here. >>> > > >>> > > Regards >>> > > >>> > > Francesco Ugolini >>> > > Francesco Ugolini >>> > > >>> > >>> > First thing stay in contact with the other ambassadors around you >>> > (thanks Tushar for the availability). Secondly see >>> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and add your event there. >>> > >>> > An advice: to request resources from FAmSCo you need to add your event >>> > one month before the beginning of the fiscal quarter, for example now >>> > you are late if you want to ask for resources for Q3 (September - >>> > November), but if you are considering creating/joining an event in the >>> > next quarter Q4 (December - February) you could be able to make the >>> > request (then FAmSCo will decide about this one). >>> > >>> > This was the formal side of answer, for the informal one I could only >>> > say: remember when you are in a public event you represent Fedora, and >>> > what you say is what people referring to Fedora. Another one: Be >>> > friendly and mix the technical skills with the joyful side: people >>> > will like this one. >>> > >>> > For the technical side: if you have a booth try to organize it in a >>> > well way so that people could see what Fedora people are offering >>> > (e.g. show a demo station with fedora). >>> > >>> > That's what I can say, naturally I'm pretty sure people around you, >>> > like Tushar could be more helpful than me. >>> > >>> > Regards >>> > >>> > Francesco Ugolini >>> > >>> > Naturally, feel free to ask here or FAmSCo. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > From tushar.neupaney at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 05:27:56 2008 From: tushar.neupaney at gmail.com (Tushar Neupaney) Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:12:56 +0545 Subject: Fwd: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region In-Reply-To: <23edaffd0809031208yf226caco6c1a6bce95822880@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60808212121t10a6ff56n72453c186722d005@mail.gmail.com> <7cb778c60808252028p5f6a51fej16169f2c9fe6cef7@mail.gmail.com> <1219749001.10251.10.camel@tushar-laptop> <7cb778c60809011000y2bff16fbtf62a00d170429785@mail.gmail.com> <1220322063.7602.2.camel@tushar-laptop> <23edaffd0809031208yf226caco6c1a6bce95822880@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1220506076.20577.16.camel@tushar-laptop> Hello Victor, Wishes from Nepal, Is there a problem in downloading the ISOs' in Spain? If there is, I guess someone from Europe must jump into this. We are hundred and thousands miles apart, it's better if you find someone nearby. I think guys we must think of something for our Spanish friends! Help time guys! Tushar On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 21:08 +0200, Victor Fernandez wrote: > Thanks Tushar, how could we get some (10-30) DVDs of Fedora 9, for the > spanish ambassadors? > > Best regards. > > 2008/9/2, Tushar Neupaney : > > Sorry Rishikesh I don't have Fedora 10 DVD right now. > > We don't have even one. > > > > I can by the way provide you with Fedora 9 CDs that I have. > > > > Can someone suggest me on how to get Fedora 10 DVD. I can burn them for > > Rishikesh. > > > > And please and write me your address so that I can send them to you. > > > > Tushar. > > > > On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 22:30 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > >> Hi Tushar, > >> > >> Thank you for your kind co-operation. You can send me 30 Nos of Fedora > >> 10 DVD. > >> > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: Tushar Neupaney > >> Date: 2008/8/26 > >> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region > >> To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks Franceso, > >> > >> Rishikesh you can write a mail to me @: tneupaney at gmail.com. > >> I am looking at how many CDs can we provide (Put it near 30). And I > >> can send you Fedora 9. > >> > >> Thank you. > >> > >> Tushar. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 11:52 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > >> > >> > 2008/8/26 Rishikesh Sharma : > >> > > Hi All, > >> > > > >> > > Please help me to organize a Fedora Event in my region for the first > >> > > time. > >> > > What are the required procedure to organize such event. I need > >> > > assistance > >> > > from you all. > >> > > > >> > > Regards, > >> > > Rishikesh Sharma > >> > > FA, Imphal, Manipur. > >> > > > >> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> > > From: Francesco Ugolini > >> > > Date: Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:45 PM > >> > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region > >> > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > 2008/8/22 Rishikesh Sharma : > >> > >> Hi All, > >> > >> > >> > >> I want to organise Fedora Event, maybe Fedora 10 release or media > >> > >> distribution in my region for the very first time. I am also the only > >> > >> fedora > >> > >> ambassador in my region. So, i would like to organise fedora event > >> > >> for the > >> > >> first time in my region. Please help and support me to organise such > >> > >> event > >> > >> in my region for the first time. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Rishikesh Sharma > >> > >> Fedora Ambassador > >> > >> Imphal, Manipur, India. > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >> > > That's a great news. > >> > > > >> > > What Sankarshan said is complete and perfect. I'm sure APAC community > >> > > could help you better than anyone, but if you have more doubts feel > >> > > free to ask here. > >> > > > >> > > Regards > >> > > > >> > > Francesco Ugolini > >> > > Francesco Ugolini > >> > > > >> > > >> > First thing stay in contact with the other ambassadors around you > >> > (thanks Tushar for the availability). Secondly see > >> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and add your event there. > >> > > >> > An advice: to request resources from FAmSCo you need to add your event > >> > one month before the beginning of the fiscal quarter, for example now > >> > you are late if you want to ask for resources for Q3 (September - > >> > November), but if you are considering creating/joining an event in the > >> > next quarter Q4 (December - February) you could be able to make the > >> > request (then FAmSCo will decide about this one). > >> > > >> > This was the formal side of answer, for the informal one I could only > >> > say: remember when you are in a public event you represent Fedora, and > >> > what you say is what people referring to Fedora. Another one: Be > >> > friendly and mix the technical skills with the joyful side: people > >> > will like this one. > >> > > >> > For the technical side: if you have a booth try to organize it in a > >> > well way so that people could see what Fedora people are offering > >> > (e.g. show a demo station with fedora). > >> > > >> > That's what I can say, naturally I'm pretty sure people around you, > >> > like Tushar could be more helpful than me. > >> > > >> > Regards > >> > > >> > Francesco Ugolini > >> > > >> > Naturally, feel free to ask here or FAmSCo. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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However, we need this DVDs not for us... instead to reclute new users/developers/sysadmin on the spanish events. Anyone could send us some DVDs (10-30)? Regards. 2008/9/4, Tushar Neupaney : > Hello Victor, > > Wishes from Nepal, > > Is there a problem in downloading the ISOs' in Spain? If there is, I > guess someone from Europe must jump into this. > We are hundred and thousands miles apart, it's better if you find > someone nearby. > > I think guys we must think of something for our Spanish friends! > Help time guys! > > Tushar > > On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 21:08 +0200, Victor Fernandez wrote: > >> Thanks Tushar, how could we get some (10-30) DVDs of Fedora 9, for the >> spanish ambassadors? >> >> Best regards. >> >> 2008/9/2, Tushar Neupaney : >> > Sorry Rishikesh I don't have Fedora 10 DVD right now. >> > We don't have even one. >> > >> > I can by the way provide you with Fedora 9 CDs that I have. >> > >> > Can someone suggest me on how to get Fedora 10 DVD. I can burn them for >> > Rishikesh. >> > >> > And please and write me your address so that I can send them to you. >> > >> > Tushar. >> > >> > On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 22:30 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: >> >> Hi Tushar, >> >> >> >> Thank you for your kind co-operation. You can send me 30 Nos of Fedora >> >> 10 DVD. >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >> From: Tushar Neupaney >> >> Date: 2008/8/26 >> >> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region >> >> To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks Franceso, >> >> >> >> Rishikesh you can write a mail to me @: tneupaney at gmail.com. >> >> I am looking at how many CDs can we provide (Put it near 30). And I >> >> can send you Fedora 9. >> >> >> >> Thank you. >> >> >> >> Tushar. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 11:52 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: >> >> >> >> > 2008/8/26 Rishikesh Sharma : >> >> > > Hi All, >> >> > > >> >> > > Please help me to organize a Fedora Event in my region for the >> >> > > first >> >> > > time. >> >> > > What are the required procedure to organize such event. I need >> >> > > assistance >> >> > > from you all. >> >> > > >> >> > > Regards, >> >> > > Rishikesh Sharma >> >> > > FA, Imphal, Manipur. >> >> > > >> >> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >> > > From: Francesco Ugolini >> >> > > Date: Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:45 PM >> >> > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my >> >> > > Region >> >> > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > 2008/8/22 Rishikesh Sharma : >> >> > >> Hi All, >> >> > >> >> >> > >> I want to organise Fedora Event, maybe Fedora 10 release or media >> >> > >> distribution in my region for the very first time. I am also the >> >> > >> only >> >> > >> fedora >> >> > >> ambassador in my region. So, i would like to organise fedora event >> >> > >> for the >> >> > >> first time in my region. Please help and support me to organise >> >> > >> such >> >> > >> event >> >> > >> in my region for the first time. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Rishikesh Sharma >> >> > >> Fedora Ambassador >> >> > >> Imphal, Manipur, India. >> >> > >> -- >> >> > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> >> > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> >> > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > That's a great news. >> >> > > >> >> > > What Sankarshan said is complete and perfect. I'm sure APAC >> >> > > community >> >> > > could help you better than anyone, but if you have more doubts feel >> >> > > free to ask here. >> >> > > >> >> > > Regards >> >> > > >> >> > > Francesco Ugolini >> >> > > Francesco Ugolini >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > First thing stay in contact with the other ambassadors around you >> >> > (thanks Tushar for the availability). Secondly see >> >> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and add your event there. >> >> > >> >> > An advice: to request resources from FAmSCo you need to add your >> >> > event >> >> > one month before the beginning of the fiscal quarter, for example now >> >> > you are late if you want to ask for resources for Q3 (September - >> >> > November), but if you are considering creating/joining an event in >> >> > the >> >> > next quarter Q4 (December - February) you could be able to make the >> >> > request (then FAmSCo will decide about this one). >> >> > >> >> > This was the formal side of answer, for the informal one I could only >> >> > say: remember when you are in a public event you represent Fedora, >> >> > and >> >> > what you say is what people referring to Fedora. Another one: Be >> >> > friendly and mix the technical skills with the joyful side: people >> >> > will like this one. >> >> > >> >> > For the technical side: if you have a booth try to organize it in a >> >> > well way so that people could see what Fedora people are offering >> >> > (e.g. show a demo station with fedora). >> >> > >> >> > That's what I can say, naturally I'm pretty sure people around you, >> >> > like Tushar could be more helpful than me. >> >> > >> >> > Regards >> >> > >> >> > Francesco Ugolini >> >> > >> >> > Naturally, feel free to ask here or FAmSCo. >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 05:41:34 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:11:34 +0530 Subject: Fwd: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region In-Reply-To: <23edaffd0809032234u567b6e0am20216c7fa835c7e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60808212121t10a6ff56n72453c186722d005@mail.gmail.com> <7cb778c60808252028p5f6a51fej16169f2c9fe6cef7@mail.gmail.com> <1219749001.10251.10.camel@tushar-laptop> <7cb778c60809011000y2bff16fbtf62a00d170429785@mail.gmail.com> <1220322063.7602.2.camel@tushar-laptop> <23edaffd0809031208yf226caco6c1a6bce95822880@mail.gmail.com> <1220506076.20577.16.camel@tushar-laptop> <23edaffd0809032234u567b6e0am20216c7fa835c7e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Victor Fernandez wrote: > Thanks Tushar, no problem with the spanish download ISOs. > > However, we need this DVDs not for us... instead to reclute new > users/developers/sysadmin on the spanish events. > > Anyone could send us some DVDs (10-30)? May be you should write to Max. (mspevack AT redhat DOT com ) You will get what you want :) -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From juasmas at juasmas.net Thu Sep 4 06:30:15 2008 From: juasmas at juasmas.net (Juan Victoria) Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:30:15 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hello everyone... In-Reply-To: <100165.9279.qm@web84303.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <100165.9279.qm@web84303.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1220509815.2949.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Welcome Leo ;) El mi?, 03-09-2008 a las 17:47 -0700, Leo Jackson escribi?: > My name Leo Jackson from Scranton area in Pa. I always wanted to contribute in Fedora in any way possible. I have downloaded the disks and bought the disks from Linux store. I will be creating software and patches for fedora. I have MS in computer science, MS in Graphics and Animation, I own my own business where we have multi operating system on the computer and the main one used on systems is Linux "Fedora" we have several embedded and other projects going on. We will make available to all our programmers and the community. And to all the people using the system. > > Leo Albert Jackson Jr > Owner Head Programmer > LJ's Electronics and Software > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From suyash.kmr at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 06:50:29 2008 From: suyash.kmr at gmail.com (S.K.) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:20:29 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hello everyone... In-Reply-To: <1220509815.2949.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <100165.9279.qm@web84303.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <1220509815.2949.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Welcome to the Ambassador team. 2008/9/4 Juan Victoria > Welcome Leo ;) > > El mi?, 03-09-2008 a las 17:47 -0700, Leo Jackson escribi?: > > My name Leo Jackson from Scranton area in Pa. I always wanted to > contribute in Fedora in any way possible. I have downloaded the disks and > bought the disks from Linux store. I will be creating software and patches > for fedora. I have MS in computer science, MS in Graphics and Animation, I > own my own business where we have multi operating system on the computer and > the main one used on systems is Linux "Fedora" we have several embedded and > other projects going on. We will make available to all our programmers and > the community. 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URL: From vaish.rajan at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 07:30:11 2008 From: vaish.rajan at gmail.com (rajan vaish) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:00:11 +0530 Subject: Fwd: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region In-Reply-To: <1220504660.20577.5.camel@tushar-laptop> References: <7cb778c60808212121t10a6ff56n72453c186722d005@mail.gmail.com> <7cb778c60808252028p5f6a51fej16169f2c9fe6cef7@mail.gmail.com> <1219749001.10251.10.camel@tushar-laptop> <7cb778c60809011000y2bff16fbtf62a00d170429785@mail.gmail.com> <1220322063.7602.2.camel@tushar-laptop> <7cb778c60809011937q1c351731gfe74442c98a5a6da@mail.gmail.com> <1220343220.15072.9.camel@tushar-laptop> <8140ab7e0809031200s7622d4f7l3eea19d748c5cb75@mail.gmail.com> <1220504660.20577.5.camel@tushar-laptop> Message-ID: <8140ab7e0809040030i1cd14c04v6d52c0f92dc92319@mail.gmail.com> Hi Tushar, Thanks for your kind help.Yea 5 sounds cool !..Here is my address ..Thanks. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rajan Vaish Room 3,H-4 Jaypee University of Information Technology, Waknaghat,Solan - 173 215 Himachal Pradesh - INDIA Cell : 091 - 923 550 3181 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks Tushar .. Rajan . On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Tushar Neupaney wrote: > Hello Rajan, > > Good news that fedora is burning hot in Himanchal pradesh too. Keep up the > good work guys. > > And send me your address so that I can send the cds to you. I will be > sending 5 of them right now. > > Because it will travel a long way, for worst case scenario you will at > least have a working copy. > > Wishes and keep posting up. > > Tushar. > > > On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 00:30 +0530, rajan vaish wrote: > > Hi Tushar, > Sorry,I got on this conversation pretty late .But I need similar help.I am > from Jaypee University of Information Technology,Solan,Himachal Pradesh .And > students here have shown keen interest in using Linux but few of them > inspite of their desire to use Fedora are unable to use it,because what I > have is DVD of Fedora 9 but many students here don't have DVD drives in > their computer hence I was wondering if I can get a set of Fedora 9 CD's > that would solve the purpose . > Even a single set will suffice as I'll use it as a shared property ,anybody > needing can use it and then return the same to me.. Extras will be even > better .. Can you help ? > Thanks .. > Rajan Vaish > p.s - Let me know,when you need the address .. Thanks ! > > 2008/9/2 Tushar Neupaney > > Great! I will send them to you. > > Is there anything else we can help you from here. It will be my pleasure. > > Tushar. > > > > On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 08:07 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > > Hi Tushar, > > Currently, Fedora 10 is not released. It is going to be release on 18th > November. You can download it from 18 November onwards. I am organising > Fedora 10 Release party so Fedora 9 will not suit there. > > You can send me the dvd's to > > B. Rishikesh Sharma > C/o. Computer Solutions > Sagolband Moirang Leirak Manung > Opp. Popular High School > Imphal West - 795001 > Manipur, India. > > > > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Tushar Neupaney < > tushar.neupaney at gmail.com> wrote: > > Sorry Rishikesh I don't have Fedora 10 DVD right now. > We don't have even one. > > I can by the way provide you with Fedora 9 CDs that I have. > > Can someone suggest me on how to get Fedora 10 DVD. I can burn them for > Rishikesh. > > And please and write me your address so that I can send them to you. > > Tushar. > > > > On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 22:30 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > > Hi Tushar, > > Thank you for your kind co-operation. You can send me 30 Nos of Fedora 10 > DVD. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Tushar Neupaney* > Date: 2008/8/26 > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > Thanks Franceso, > > Rishikesh you can write a mail to me @: tneupaney at gmail.com. > I am looking at how many CDs can we provide (Put it near 30). And I can > send you Fedora 9. > > Thank you. > > Tushar. > > > > On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 11:52 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > > 2008/8/26 Rishikesh Sharma : > > Hi All, > > > > Please help me to organize a Fedora Event in my region for the first time. > > What are the required procedure to organize such event. I need assistance > > from you all. > > > > Regards, > > Rishikesh Sharma > > FA, Imphal, Manipur. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Francesco Ugolini > > Date: Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > > > 2008/8/22 Rishikesh Sharma : > >> Hi All, > >> > >> I want to organise Fedora Event, maybe Fedora 10 release or media > >> distribution in my region for the very first time. I am also the only > >> fedora > >> ambassador in my region. So, i would like to organise fedora event for the > >> first time in my region. Please help and support me to organise such event > >> in my region for the first time. > >> > >> > >> Rishikesh Sharma > >> Fedora Ambassador > >> Imphal, Manipur, India. > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > >> > > > > That's a great news. > > > > What Sankarshan said is complete and perfect. I'm sure APAC community > > could help you better than anyone, but if you have more doubts feel > > free to ask here. > > > > Regards > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > Francesco Ugolini > > > > First thing stay in contact with the other ambassadors around you > (thanks Tushar for the availability). Secondly seehttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and add your event there. > > An advice: to request resources from FAmSCo you need to add your event > one month before the beginning of the fiscal quarter, for example now > you are late if you want to ask for resources for Q3 (September - > November), but if you are considering creating/joining an event in the > next quarter Q4 (December - February) you could be able to make the > request (then FAmSCo will decide about this one). > > This was the formal side of answer, for the informal one I could only > say: remember when you are in a public event you represent Fedora, and > what you say is what people referring to Fedora. 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Yes my apologies, I was going on a more general meaning of consensus not a strict literal meaning, and notice I added the modifier "so far". How about "the opinions so far" then. And yes they are not all agreeing on the same thing, my point was they all agree to change it from Tuesday to "something else". > > > > So to boil it down, we have basically 5 votes to change it to some other > > day, keeping same time slot (9pm EST/6pm PST), and 2 votes to keep it on > > Tuesdays, with one of those open to suggestion of the consensus now, and > the > > other keeping it as is for a few months anyway. > > If we are going to vote it is going to be far more complicated. There > are 168 hours per week. So we each will cast a ballot assigning a > number from 0 to 168 for each hour of the week. Six weeks later we > will have the results of the 3 ballots tabulated and declare the > winning hour. :) > > John Well if you are more experienced in dealing with issues like this what would you suggest? 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URL: From tushar.neupaney at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 09:17:51 2008 From: tushar.neupaney at gmail.com (Tushar Neupaney) Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:02:51 +0545 Subject: Fwd: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region In-Reply-To: <23edaffd0809032234u567b6e0am20216c7fa835c7e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60808212121t10a6ff56n72453c186722d005@mail.gmail.com> <7cb778c60808252028p5f6a51fej16169f2c9fe6cef7@mail.gmail.com> <1219749001.10251.10.camel@tushar-laptop> <7cb778c60809011000y2bff16fbtf62a00d170429785@mail.gmail.com> <1220322063.7602.2.camel@tushar-laptop> <23edaffd0809031208yf226caco6c1a6bce95822880@mail.gmail.com> <1220506076.20577.16.camel@tushar-laptop> <23edaffd0809032234u567b6e0am20216c7fa835c7e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1220519871.15846.4.camel@tushar-laptop> Dear Victor, Nice to learn about the initiative. I have with me 20 DVDs of Fedora, which I can provide you. Can u manage for the courier? We are celebrating SFD'08 and are sort of funds right now. Wishes, Tushar On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 07:34 +0200, Victor Fernandez wrote: > Thanks Tushar, no problem with the spanish download ISOs. > > However, we need this DVDs not for us... instead to reclute new > users/developers/sysadmin on the spanish events. > > Anyone could send us some DVDs (10-30)? > > Regards. > > 2008/9/4, Tushar Neupaney : > > Hello Victor, > > > > Wishes from Nepal, > > > > Is there a problem in downloading the ISOs' in Spain? If there is, I > > guess someone from Europe must jump into this. > > We are hundred and thousands miles apart, it's better if you find > > someone nearby. > > > > I think guys we must think of something for our Spanish friends! > > Help time guys! > > > > Tushar > > > > On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 21:08 +0200, Victor Fernandez wrote: > > > >> Thanks Tushar, how could we get some (10-30) DVDs of Fedora 9, for the > >> spanish ambassadors? > >> > >> Best regards. > >> > >> 2008/9/2, Tushar Neupaney : > >> > Sorry Rishikesh I don't have Fedora 10 DVD right now. > >> > We don't have even one. > >> > > >> > I can by the way provide you with Fedora 9 CDs that I have. > >> > > >> > Can someone suggest me on how to get Fedora 10 DVD. I can burn them for > >> > Rishikesh. > >> > > >> > And please and write me your address so that I can send them to you. > >> > > >> > Tushar. > >> > > >> > On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 22:30 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > >> >> Hi Tushar, > >> >> > >> >> Thank you for your kind co-operation. You can send me 30 Nos of Fedora > >> >> 10 DVD. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> >> From: Tushar Neupaney > >> >> Date: 2008/8/26 > >> >> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region > >> >> To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Thanks Franceso, > >> >> > >> >> Rishikesh you can write a mail to me @: tneupaney at gmail.com. > >> >> I am looking at how many CDs can we provide (Put it near 30). And I > >> >> can send you Fedora 9. > >> >> > >> >> Thank you. > >> >> > >> >> Tushar. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 11:52 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > 2008/8/26 Rishikesh Sharma : > >> >> > > Hi All, > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Please help me to organize a Fedora Event in my region for the > >> >> > > first > >> >> > > time. > >> >> > > What are the required procedure to organize such event. I need > >> >> > > assistance > >> >> > > from you all. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Regards, > >> >> > > Rishikesh Sharma > >> >> > > FA, Imphal, Manipur. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> >> > > From: Francesco Ugolini > >> >> > > Date: Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:45 PM > >> >> > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my > >> >> > > Region > >> >> > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > 2008/8/22 Rishikesh Sharma : > >> >> > >> Hi All, > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> I want to organise Fedora Event, maybe Fedora 10 release or media > >> >> > >> distribution in my region for the very first time. I am also the > >> >> > >> only > >> >> > >> fedora > >> >> > >> ambassador in my region. So, i would like to organise fedora event > >> >> > >> for the > >> >> > >> first time in my region. Please help and support me to organise > >> >> > >> such > >> >> > >> event > >> >> > >> in my region for the first time. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> Rishikesh Sharma > >> >> > >> Fedora Ambassador > >> >> > >> Imphal, Manipur, India. > >> >> > >> -- > >> >> > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> >> > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> >> > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > > That's a great news. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > What Sankarshan said is complete and perfect. I'm sure APAC > >> >> > > community > >> >> > > could help you better than anyone, but if you have more doubts feel > >> >> > > free to ask here. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Regards > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Francesco Ugolini > >> >> > > Francesco Ugolini > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > First thing stay in contact with the other ambassadors around you > >> >> > (thanks Tushar for the availability). Secondly see > >> >> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and add your event there. > >> >> > > >> >> > An advice: to request resources from FAmSCo you need to add your > >> >> > event > >> >> > one month before the beginning of the fiscal quarter, for example now > >> >> > you are late if you want to ask for resources for Q3 (September - > >> >> > November), but if you are considering creating/joining an event in > >> >> > the > >> >> > next quarter Q4 (December - February) you could be able to make the > >> >> > request (then FAmSCo will decide about this one). > >> >> > > >> >> > This was the formal side of answer, for the informal one I could only > >> >> > say: remember when you are in a public event you represent Fedora, > >> >> > and > >> >> > what you say is what people referring to Fedora. Another one: Be > >> >> > friendly and mix the technical skills with the joyful side: people > >> >> > will like this one. > >> >> > > >> >> > For the technical side: if you have a booth try to organize it in a > >> >> > well way so that people could see what Fedora people are offering > >> >> > (e.g. show a demo station with fedora). > >> >> > > >> >> > That's what I can say, naturally I'm pretty sure people around you, > >> >> > like Tushar could be more helpful than me. > >> >> > > >> >> > Regards > >> >> > > >> >> > Francesco Ugolini > >> >> > > >> >> > Naturally, feel free to ask here or FAmSCo. > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards. 2008/9/4 Tushar Neupaney > Dear Victor, > > Nice to learn about the initiative. > > I have with me 20 DVDs of Fedora, which I can provide you. > Can u manage for the courier? > > We are celebrating SFD'08 and are sort of funds right now. > > Wishes, > Tushar > > On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 07:34 +0200, Victor Fernandez wrote: > > Thanks Tushar, no problem with the spanish download ISOs. > > However, we need this DVDs not for us... instead to reclute new > users/developers/sysadmin on the spanish events. > > Anyone could send us some DVDs (10-30)? > > Regards. > > 2008/9/4, Tushar Neupaney : > > Hello Victor, > > > > Wishes from Nepal, > > > > Is there a problem in downloading the ISOs' in Spain? If there is, I > > guess someone from Europe must jump into this. > > We are hundred and thousands miles apart, it's better if you find > > someone nearby. > > > > I think guys we must think of something for our Spanish friends! > > Help time guys! > > > > Tushar > > > > On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 21:08 +0200, Victor Fernandez wrote: > > > >> Thanks Tushar, how could we get some (10-30) DVDs of Fedora 9, for the > >> spanish ambassadors? > >> > >> Best regards. > >> > >> 2008/9/2, Tushar Neupaney : > >> > Sorry Rishikesh I don't have Fedora 10 DVD right now. > >> > We don't have even one. > >> > > >> > I can by the way provide you with Fedora 9 CDs that I have. > >> > > >> > Can someone suggest me on how to get Fedora 10 DVD. I can burn them for > >> > Rishikesh. > >> > > >> > And please and write me your address so that I can send them to you. > >> > > >> > Tushar. > >> > > >> > On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 22:30 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > >> >> Hi Tushar, > >> >> > >> >> Thank you for your kind co-operation. You can send me 30 Nos of Fedora > >> >> 10 DVD. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> >> From: Tushar Neupaney > >> >> Date: 2008/8/26 > >> >> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region > >> >> To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Thanks Franceso, > >> >> > >> >> Rishikesh you can write a mail to me @: tneupaney at gmail.com. > >> >> I am looking at how many CDs can we provide (Put it near 30). And I > >> >> can send you Fedora 9. > >> >> > >> >> Thank you. > >> >> > >> >> Tushar. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 11:52 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > 2008/8/26 Rishikesh Sharma : > >> >> > > Hi All, > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Please help me to organize a Fedora Event in my region for the > >> >> > > first > >> >> > > time. > >> >> > > What are the required procedure to organize such event. I need > >> >> > > assistance > >> >> > > from you all. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Regards, > >> >> > > Rishikesh Sharma > >> >> > > FA, Imphal, Manipur. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> >> > > From: Francesco Ugolini > >> >> > > Date: Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:45 PM > >> >> > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my > >> >> > > Region > >> >> > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > 2008/8/22 Rishikesh Sharma : > >> >> > >> Hi All, > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> I want to organise Fedora Event, maybe Fedora 10 release or media > >> >> > >> distribution in my region for the very first time. I am also the > >> >> > >> only > >> >> > >> fedora > >> >> > >> ambassador in my region. So, i would like to organise fedora event > >> >> > >> for the > >> >> > >> first time in my region. Please help and support me to organise > >> >> > >> such > >> >> > >> event > >> >> > >> in my region for the first time. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> Rishikesh Sharma > >> >> > >> Fedora Ambassador > >> >> > >> Imphal, Manipur, India. > >> >> > >> -- > >> >> > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> >> > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> >> > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > > That's a great news. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > What Sankarshan said is complete and perfect. I'm sure APAC > >> >> > > community > >> >> > > could help you better than anyone, but if you have more doubts feel > >> >> > > free to ask here. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Regards > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Francesco Ugolini > >> >> > > Francesco Ugolini > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > First thing stay in contact with the other ambassadors around you > >> >> > (thanks Tushar for the availability). Secondly see > >> >> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and add your event there. > >> >> > > >> >> > An advice: to request resources from FAmSCo you need to add your > >> >> > event > >> >> > one month before the beginning of the fiscal quarter, for example now > >> >> > you are late if you want to ask for resources for Q3 (September - > >> >> > November), but if you are considering creating/joining an event in > >> >> > the > >> >> > next quarter Q4 (December - February) you could be able to make the > >> >> > request (then FAmSCo will decide about this one). > >> >> > > >> >> > This was the formal side of answer, for the informal one I could only > >> >> > say: remember when you are in a public event you represent Fedora, > >> >> > and > >> >> > what you say is what people referring to Fedora. Another one: Be > >> >> > friendly and mix the technical skills with the joyful side: people > >> >> > will like this one. > >> >> > > >> >> > For the technical side: if you have a booth try to organize it in a > >> >> > well way so that people could see what Fedora people are offering > >> >> > (e.g. show a demo station with fedora). > >> >> > > >> >> > That's what I can say, naturally I'm pretty sure people around you, > >> >> > like Tushar could be more helpful than me. > >> >> > > >> >> > Regards > >> >> > > >> >> > Francesco Ugolini > >> >> > > >> >> > Naturally, feel free to ask here or FAmSCo. > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tushar.neupaney at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 09:48:54 2008 From: tushar.neupaney at gmail.com (Tushar Neupaney) Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:33:54 +0545 Subject: Fwd: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region In-Reply-To: <23edaffd0809040233h21b1841l5fc3e51f19f678c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60808212121t10a6ff56n72453c186722d005@mail.gmail.com> <7cb778c60808252028p5f6a51fej16169f2c9fe6cef7@mail.gmail.com> <1219749001.10251.10.camel@tushar-laptop> <7cb778c60809011000y2bff16fbtf62a00d170429785@mail.gmail.com> <1220322063.7602.2.camel@tushar-laptop> <23edaffd0809031208yf226caco6c1a6bce95822880@mail.gmail.com> <1220506076.20577.16.camel@tushar-laptop> <23edaffd0809032234u567b6e0am20216c7fa835c7e8@mail.gmail.com> <1220519871.15846.4.camel@tushar-laptop> <23edaffd0809040233h21b1841l5fc3e51f19f678c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1220521734.15846.6.camel@tushar-laptop> Victor, can u provide me ur address. I have to query on the cost. And Fedex is cheaper than DHL, Is Fedex available there? On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 11:33 +0200, Victor Fernandez wrote: > OK Tushar, how many ? does it cost? > > Regards. > > > 2008/9/4 Tushar Neupaney > > Dear Victor, > > Nice to learn about the initiative. > > I have with me 20 DVDs of Fedora, which I can provide you. > Can u manage for the courier? > > We are celebrating SFD'08 and are sort of funds right now. > > Wishes, > Tushar > > On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 07:34 +0200, Victor Fernandez wrote: > > > Thanks Tushar, no problem with the spanish download ISOs. > > > > However, we need this DVDs not for us... instead to reclute new > > users/developers/sysadmin on the spanish events. > > > > Anyone could send us some DVDs (10-30)? > > > > Regards. > > > > 2008/9/4, Tushar Neupaney : > > > Hello Victor, > > > > > > Wishes from Nepal, > > > > > > Is there a problem in downloading the ISOs' in Spain? If there is, I > > > guess someone from Europe must jump into this. > > > We are hundred and thousands miles apart, it's better if you find > > > someone nearby. > > > > > > I think guys we must think of something for our Spanish friends! > > > Help time guys! > > > > > > Tushar > > > > > > On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 21:08 +0200, Victor Fernandez wrote: > > > > > >> Thanks Tushar, how could we get some (10-30) DVDs of Fedora 9, for the > > >> spanish ambassadors? > > >> > > >> Best regards. > > >> > > >> 2008/9/2, Tushar Neupaney : > > >> > Sorry Rishikesh I don't have Fedora 10 DVD right now. > > >> > We don't have even one. > > >> > > > >> > I can by the way provide you with Fedora 9 CDs that I have. > > >> > > > >> > Can someone suggest me on how to get Fedora 10 DVD. I can burn them for > > >> > Rishikesh. > > >> > > > >> > And please and write me your address so that I can send them to you. > > >> > > > >> > Tushar. > > >> > > > >> > On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 22:30 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > > >> >> Hi Tushar, > > >> >> > > >> >> Thank you for your kind co-operation. You can send me 30 Nos of Fedora > > >> >> 10 DVD. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > >> >> From: Tushar Neupaney > > >> >> Date: 2008/8/26 > > >> >> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region > > >> >> To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> Thanks Franceso, > > >> >> > > >> >> Rishikesh you can write a mail to me @: tneupaney at gmail.com. > > >> >> I am looking at how many CDs can we provide (Put it near 30). And I > > >> >> can send you Fedora 9. > > >> >> > > >> >> Thank you. > > >> >> > > >> >> Tushar. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 11:52 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> > 2008/8/26 Rishikesh Sharma : > > >> >> > > Hi All, > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > Please help me to organize a Fedora Event in my region for the > > >> >> > > first > > >> >> > > time. > > >> >> > > What are the required procedure to organize such event. I need > > >> >> > > assistance > > >> >> > > from you all. > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > Regards, > > >> >> > > Rishikesh Sharma > > >> >> > > FA, Imphal, Manipur. > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > >> >> > > From: Francesco Ugolini > > >> >> > > Date: Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:45 PM > > >> >> > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my > > >> >> > > Region > > >> >> > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > 2008/8/22 Rishikesh Sharma : > > >> >> > >> Hi All, > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> I want to organise Fedora Event, maybe Fedora 10 release or media > > >> >> > >> distribution in my region for the very first time. I am also the > > >> >> > >> only > > >> >> > >> fedora > > >> >> > >> ambassador in my region. So, i would like to organise fedora event > > >> >> > >> for the > > >> >> > >> first time in my region. Please help and support me to organise > > >> >> > >> such > > >> >> > >> event > > >> >> > >> in my region for the first time. > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> Rishikesh Sharma > > >> >> > >> Fedora Ambassador > > >> >> > >> Imphal, Manipur, India. > > >> >> > >> -- > > >> >> > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > >> >> > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > >> >> > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > That's a great news. > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > What Sankarshan said is complete and perfect. I'm sure APAC > > >> >> > > community > > >> >> > > could help you better than anyone, but if you have more doubts feel > > >> >> > > free to ask here. > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > Regards > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > Francesco Ugolini > > >> >> > > Francesco Ugolini > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > First thing stay in contact with the other ambassadors around you > > >> >> > (thanks Tushar for the availability). Secondly see > > >> >> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and add your event there. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > An advice: to request resources from FAmSCo you need to add your > > >> >> > event > > >> >> > one month before the beginning of the fiscal quarter, for example now > > >> >> > you are late if you want to ask for resources for Q3 (September - > > >> >> > November), but if you are considering creating/joining an event in > > >> >> > the > > >> >> > next quarter Q4 (December - February) you could be able to make the > > >> >> > request (then FAmSCo will decide about this one). > > >> >> > > > >> >> > This was the formal side of answer, for the informal one I could only > > >> >> > say: remember when you are in a public event you represent Fedora, > > >> >> > and > > >> >> > what you say is what people referring to Fedora. Another one: Be > > >> >> > friendly and mix the technical skills with the joyful side: people > > >> >> > will like this one. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > For the technical side: if you have a booth try to organize it in a > > >> >> > well way so that people could see what Fedora people are offering > > >> >> > (e.g. show a demo station with fedora). > > >> >> > > > >> >> > That's what I can say, naturally I'm pretty sure people around you, > > >> >> > like Tushar could be more helpful than me. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Regards > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Francesco Ugolini > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Naturally, feel free to ask here or FAmSCo. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > -- > > >> >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > >> >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > >> >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> -- > > >> >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > >> >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From vfernandezg at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 09:52:22 2008 From: vfernandezg at gmail.com (Victor Fernandez) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:52:22 +0200 Subject: Fwd: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region In-Reply-To: <1220521734.15846.6.camel@tushar-laptop> References: <7cb778c60808212121t10a6ff56n72453c186722d005@mail.gmail.com> <1219749001.10251.10.camel@tushar-laptop> <7cb778c60809011000y2bff16fbtf62a00d170429785@mail.gmail.com> <1220322063.7602.2.camel@tushar-laptop> <23edaffd0809031208yf226caco6c1a6bce95822880@mail.gmail.com> <1220506076.20577.16.camel@tushar-laptop> <23edaffd0809032234u567b6e0am20216c7fa835c7e8@mail.gmail.com> <1220519871.15846.4.camel@tushar-laptop> <23edaffd0809040233h21b1841l5fc3e51f19f678c9@mail.gmail.com> <1220521734.15846.6.camel@tushar-laptop> Message-ID: <23edaffd0809040252o53ad0ff4gec03c8223e5313dd@mail.gmail.com> Sure ! i'll send you my data: Victor M. Fernandez C/ Cangrejo, 6, 3-C Madrid 28031 Spain Regards. 2008/9/4 Tushar Neupaney > Victor, can u provide me ur address. I have to query on the cost. > And Fedex is cheaper than DHL, Is Fedex available there? > > > > On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 11:33 +0200, Victor Fernandez wrote: > > OK Tushar, how many ? does it cost? > > Regards. > > 2008/9/4 Tushar Neupaney > > Dear Victor, > > Nice to learn about the initiative. > > I have with me 20 DVDs of Fedora, which I can provide you. > Can u manage for the courier? > > We are celebrating SFD'08 and are sort of funds right now. > > Wishes, > Tushar > > On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 07:34 +0200, Victor Fernandez wrote: > > Thanks Tushar, no problem with the spanish download ISOs. > > However, we need this DVDs not for us... instead to reclute new > users/developers/sysadmin on the spanish events. > > Anyone could send us some DVDs (10-30)? > > Regards. > > 2008/9/4, Tushar Neupaney : > > Hello Victor, > > > > Wishes from Nepal, > > > > Is there a problem in downloading the ISOs' in Spain? If there is, I > > guess someone from Europe must jump into this. > > We are hundred and thousands miles apart, it's better if you find > > someone nearby. > > > > I think guys we must think of something for our Spanish friends! > > Help time guys! > > > > Tushar > > > > On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 21:08 +0200, Victor Fernandez wrote: > > > >> Thanks Tushar, how could we get some (10-30) DVDs of Fedora 9, for the > >> spanish ambassadors? > >> > >> Best regards. > >> > >> 2008/9/2, Tushar Neupaney : > >> > Sorry Rishikesh I don't have Fedora 10 DVD right now. > >> > We don't have even one. > >> > > >> > I can by the way provide you with Fedora 9 CDs that I have. > >> > > >> > Can someone suggest me on how to get Fedora 10 DVD. I can burn them for > >> > Rishikesh. > >> > > >> > And please and write me your address so that I can send them to you. > >> > > >> > Tushar. > >> > > >> > On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 22:30 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > >> >> Hi Tushar, > >> >> > >> >> Thank you for your kind co-operation. You can send me 30 Nos of Fedora > >> >> 10 DVD. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> >> From: Tushar Neupaney > >> >> Date: 2008/8/26 > >> >> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region > >> >> To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Thanks Franceso, > >> >> > >> >> Rishikesh you can write a mail to me @: tneupaney at gmail.com. > >> >> I am looking at how many CDs can we provide (Put it near 30). And I > >> >> can send you Fedora 9. > >> >> > >> >> Thank you. > >> >> > >> >> Tushar. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 11:52 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > 2008/8/26 Rishikesh Sharma : > >> >> > > Hi All, > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Please help me to organize a Fedora Event in my region for the > >> >> > > first > >> >> > > time. > >> >> > > What are the required procedure to organize such event. I need > >> >> > > assistance > >> >> > > from you all. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Regards, > >> >> > > Rishikesh Sharma > >> >> > > FA, Imphal, Manipur. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> >> > > From: Francesco Ugolini > >> >> > > Date: Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:45 PM > >> >> > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my > >> >> > > Region > >> >> > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > 2008/8/22 Rishikesh Sharma : > >> >> > >> Hi All, > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> I want to organise Fedora Event, maybe Fedora 10 release or media > >> >> > >> distribution in my region for the very first time. I am also the > >> >> > >> only > >> >> > >> fedora > >> >> > >> ambassador in my region. So, i would like to organise fedora event > >> >> > >> for the > >> >> > >> first time in my region. Please help and support me to organise > >> >> > >> such > >> >> > >> event > >> >> > >> in my region for the first time. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> Rishikesh Sharma > >> >> > >> Fedora Ambassador > >> >> > >> Imphal, Manipur, India. > >> >> > >> -- > >> >> > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> >> > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> >> > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > > > >> >> > > That's a great news. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > What Sankarshan said is complete and perfect. I'm sure APAC > >> >> > > community > >> >> > > could help you better than anyone, but if you have more doubts feel > >> >> > > free to ask here. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Regards > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Francesco Ugolini > >> >> > > Francesco Ugolini > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > First thing stay in contact with the other ambassadors around you > >> >> > (thanks Tushar for the availability). Secondly see > >> >> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents and add your event there. > >> >> > > >> >> > An advice: to request resources from FAmSCo you need to add your > >> >> > event > >> >> > one month before the beginning of the fiscal quarter, for example now > >> >> > you are late if you want to ask for resources for Q3 (September - > >> >> > November), but if you are considering creating/joining an event in > >> >> > the > >> >> > next quarter Q4 (December - February) you could be able to make the > >> >> > request (then FAmSCo will decide about this one). > >> >> > > >> >> > This was the formal side of answer, for the informal one I could only > >> >> > say: remember when you are in a public event you represent Fedora, > >> >> > and > >> >> > what you say is what people referring to Fedora. Another one: Be > >> >> > friendly and mix the technical skills with the joyful side: people > >> >> > will like this one. > >> >> > > >> >> > For the technical side: if you have a booth try to organize it in a > >> >> > well way so that people could see what Fedora people are offering > >> >> > (e.g. show a demo station with fedora). > >> >> > > >> >> > That's what I can say, naturally I'm pretty sure people around you, > >> >> > like Tushar could be more helpful than me. > >> >> > > >> >> > Regards > >> >> > > >> >> > Francesco Ugolini > >> >> > > >> >> > Naturally, feel free to ask here or FAmSCo. > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kushaldas at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 09:54:08 2008 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 15:24:08 +0530 Subject: Fwd: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region In-Reply-To: <23edaffd0809040252o53ad0ff4gec03c8223e5313dd@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60808212121t10a6ff56n72453c186722d005@mail.gmail.com> <1220521734.15846.6.camel@tushar-laptop> <23edaffd0809040252o53ad0ff4gec03c8223e5313dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200809041524.09109.kushaldas@gmail.com> On Thursday 04 September 2008 03:22:22 pm Victor Fernandez wrote: > Sure ! i'll send you my data: > > Victor M. Fernandez > C/ Cangrejo, 6, 3-C > Madrid 28031 > Spain I am still not sure why we need to send DVDs across the globe. Can't you find someone nearby ? Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.in http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur) From vfernandezg at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 09:59:02 2008 From: vfernandezg at gmail.com (Victor Fernandez) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:59:02 +0200 Subject: Fwd: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region In-Reply-To: <200809041524.09109.kushaldas@gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60808212121t10a6ff56n72453c186722d005@mail.gmail.com> <1220521734.15846.6.camel@tushar-laptop> <23edaffd0809040252o53ad0ff4gec03c8223e5313dd@mail.gmail.com> <200809041524.09109.kushaldas@gmail.com> Message-ID: <23edaffd0809040259ibafe644lb87323fc18c31f9c@mail.gmail.com> I have a good reason for you... nobody could send me DVDs here in Spain, bit I'm sure you could help us with this simply task. Regards. 2008/9/4 Kushal Das > On Thursday 04 September 2008 03:22:22 pm Victor Fernandez wrote: > > Sure ! i'll send you my data: > > > > Victor M. Fernandez > > C/ Cangrejo, 6, 3-C > > Madrid 28031 > > Spain > I am still not sure why we need to send DVDs across the globe. Can't you > find > someone nearby ? > > Kushal > -- > Fedora Ambassador, India > http://kushaldas.in > http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur) > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kushaldas at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 10:02:06 2008 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 15:32:06 +0530 Subject: Fwd: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region In-Reply-To: <23edaffd0809040259ibafe644lb87323fc18c31f9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60808212121t10a6ff56n72453c186722d005@mail.gmail.com> <200809041524.09109.kushaldas@gmail.com> <23edaffd0809040259ibafe644lb87323fc18c31f9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200809041532.06968.kushaldas@gmail.com> On Thursday 04 September 2008 03:29:02 pm Victor Fernandez wrote: > I have a good reason for you... nobody could send me DVDs here in Spain, > bit I'm sure you could help us with this simply task. Any one from EU ? Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.in http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur) From vfernandezg at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 10:06:25 2008 From: vfernandezg at gmail.com (Victor Fernandez) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:06:25 +0200 Subject: Fwd: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region In-Reply-To: <200809041532.06968.kushaldas@gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60808212121t10a6ff56n72453c186722d005@mail.gmail.com> <200809041524.09109.kushaldas@gmail.com> <23edaffd0809040259ibafe644lb87323fc18c31f9c@mail.gmail.com> <200809041532.06968.kushaldas@gmail.com> Message-ID: <23edaffd0809040306i276cef13oc7534a6a0faeb235@mail.gmail.com> Do you konw someone to help us in Europe? 2008/9/4 Kushal Das > On Thursday 04 September 2008 03:29:02 pm Victor Fernandez wrote: > > I have a good reason for you... nobody could send me DVDs here in Spain, > > bit I'm sure you could help us with this simply task. > Any one from EU ? > > Kushal > -- > Fedora Ambassador, India > http://kushaldas.in > http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur) > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards. 2008/9/4 Frank Murphy > On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 12:32 +0200, Victor Fernandez wrote: > > So, could you help us? > > > > With home-burned yes, > > but not fancy. for that > Conatct S p e v a c k on irc, > as listed on previous message. > He should set you right. > > Frank > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fab at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 4 10:40:34 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:40:34 +0200 Subject: Fwd: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region In-Reply-To: <23edaffd0809040306i276cef13oc7534a6a0faeb235@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60808212121t10a6ff56n72453c186722d005@mail.gmail.com> <200809041524.09109.kushaldas@gmail.com> <23edaffd0809040259ibafe644lb87323fc18c31f9c@mail.gmail.com> <200809041532.06968.kushaldas@gmail.com> <23edaffd0809040306i276cef13oc7534a6a0faeb235@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48BFBB22.9020104@fedoraproject.org> Victor Fernandez wrote: > Do you konw someone to help us in Europe? There are a lot of people in Europe who can help you. Maybe there will be some DVDs left from FUDCon. If that happen I will be able to send you those. Tell us more about the event where you need this DVDs for. I can see any up-coming event in Spain in the near future. BTW, please stop 'Top-Posting' [1]. It's really hard to follow your conversation Kind regards, Fabian [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MailinglistGuidelines -- Fingerprint: 2F6C 930F D3C4 7E38 6AFA 4EB4 E23C D2DD 36A4 397F Fedora always leads and never follows. From eugenejvr at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 10:51:40 2008 From: eugenejvr at gmail.com (eugenejvr at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:51:40 +0200 (SAST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassador In-Reply-To: <21931170.381220525361716.JavaMail.root@ika001.itmaster.co.za> Message-ID: <32561072.401220525500600.JavaMail.root@ika001.itmaster.co.za> Good day all, My name is Eugene I live in Polokwane, South Africa. I am sort of new to this game but I'm already in love with it... I can't get enough. At the moment I am contracted to the Department of Health and Social Development as a SysAdmin. I support 86 RHEL 4 servers and have the RHCE certification. --For the "Ambassadors" Project-- I am planing to start a LUG over here. I already have a sponsor for the domain and for hosting. I have 4 other friend that is also very keen to get into it with me. Fedora is my distro of choice so obliviously I'll be promoting that lots and lots on the new LUG site. There is a big "Open Source" trend going on around here and every body wants to know about it. It's almost the same as when they first introduced "Brought Band Internet Access" in South Africa. I government circles this is even bigger. They do not have a clue what open source is but they want to implement it. So supplying information and about Fedora and Open source will be my main focus for now. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Eugenejvr https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList#SouthernAfrica Regards, Eugene From tushar.neupaney at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 10:53:02 2008 From: tushar.neupaney at gmail.com (Tushar Neupaney) Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:38:02 +0545 Subject: Fwd: [Ambassadors] How to Organise Fedora Event in my Region In-Reply-To: <23edaffd0809040306i276cef13oc7534a6a0faeb235@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60808212121t10a6ff56n72453c186722d005@mail.gmail.com> <200809041524.09109.kushaldas@gmail.com> <23edaffd0809040259ibafe644lb87323fc18c31f9c@mail.gmail.com> <200809041532.06968.kushaldas@gmail.com> <23edaffd0809040306i276cef13oc7534a6a0faeb235@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1220525583.15846.10.camel@tushar-laptop> Ya, It will always be better if someone from Europe help you. And I guess you can find someone. Is no one here from Europe? It costs $40 to send you courier from Nepal to Spain and I have to keep it below 1 kilo gram. And I hope this is costly for (Maybe I can send you 25) 25 DVDs. Lets wait some time for some response from europe? 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I support 86 RHEL 4 servers and have the RHCE certification. > > --For the "Ambassadors" Project-- > I am planing to start a LUG over here. I already have a sponsor for the > domain and for hosting. I have 4 other friend that is also very keen to get > into it with me. Fedora is my distro of choice so obliviously I'll be > promoting that lots and lots on the new LUG site. There is a big "Open > Source" trend going on around here and every body wants to know about it. > It's almost the same as when they first introduced "Brought Band Internet > Access" in South Africa. I government circles this is even bigger. They do > not have a clue what open source is but they want to implement it. So > supplying information and about Fedora and Open source will be my main focus > for now. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Eugenejvr > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList#SouthernAfrica > > > Regards, > Eugene > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > :::: CONTRIBUA COM O MEIO AMBIENTE. N?O IMPRIMA ESTA MENSAGEM ::::: > > > -- -- Atenciosamente, Lucas do Amaral Saboya CEFET-CE - UAB-CE. Linux System Administrator Fedora Ambassador & Fedora Translator -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is the kinds of event we want to cover and all of this smaller. Could you help us? Regards. 2008/9/4 Tushar Neupaney > Ya, It will always be better if someone from Europe help you. > > And I guess you can find someone. > > Is no one here from Europe? > > It costs $40 to send you courier from Nepal to Spain and I have to keep it > below 1 kilo gram. > > And I hope this is costly for (Maybe I can send you 25) 25 DVDs. > > Lets wait some time for some response from europe? > > Tushar > > On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 12:06 +0200, Victor Fernandez wrote: > > Do you konw someone to help us in Europe? > > 2008/9/4 Kushal Das > > On Thursday 04 September 2008 03:29:02 pm Victor Fernandez wrote: > > I have a good reason for you... nobody could send me DVDs here in Spain, > > bit I'm sure you could help us with this simply task. > > Any one from EU ? > > > > Kushal > -- > Fedora Ambassador, India > http://kushaldas.in > http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur) > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing listFedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.comhttps://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Concretely, can we define the project charter with you, max, paul or someone who could be in charge of that aspect ? Let's hope you are always Ok to give me a hand. Thanks a lot to all of you. Feel free to contact me if you have any remarks. Best regards Frederic EMEA Fedora Ambassador -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From linux.charged at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 23:14:12 2008 From: linux.charged at gmail.com (Junior Tomazelli) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 20:14:12 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] A greeting from Tunisia In-Reply-To: References: <11204d710809031812n22b66dc6x988113c8c0c82a67@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: welcome. :D -- Wolnei C?ndido Tomazelli Junior (Charged) Brazil Fedora Ambassador Designer and TI E-mail : linux.charged at gmail.com Linux User #477062 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From thecyberxp at gmail.com Thu Sep 4 23:35:20 2008 From: thecyberxp at gmail.com (Wael Ammar) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 01:35:20 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] A greeting from Tunisia In-Reply-To: References: <11204d710809031812n22b66dc6x988113c8c0c82a67@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <11204d710809041635o7ed2f66fh5ebbfe6df992de44@mail.gmail.com> thanks :) 2008/9/5 Junior Tomazelli > welcome. :D > -- > Wolnei C?ndido Tomazelli Junior (Charged) > Brazil Fedora Ambassador > Designer and TI > E-mail : linux.charged at gmail.com > Linux User #477062 > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Wael Ammar (TheCyberXP) Tunisian Fedora Ambassador Vice President Club FreeWays My WebBlog : http://thecyberxp.tuxfamily.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 13:12 +0200, Victor Fernandez wrote: > I tell you our idea. Fist of all we need to create the > http://es.fedoraproject.org to focus here all spanish activities also > with the email list and irc channel. > > Last weeks ago, I post teh OSWC 08 > http://www.opensourceworldconference.com/oswc/programme but everyone > tell to me hat threre isn't funds. > > This is the kinds of event we want to cover and all of this smaller. > > Could you help us? > > Regards. > > > 2008/9/4 Tushar Neupaney > > Ya, It will always be better if someone from Europe help you. > > And I guess you can find someone. > > Is no one here from Europe? > > It costs $40 to send you courier from Nepal to Spain and I > have to keep it below 1 kilo gram. > > And I hope this is costly for (Maybe I can send you 25) 25 > DVDs. > > Lets wait some time for some response from europe? > > Tushar > > > > On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 12:06 +0200, Victor Fernandez wrote: > > > Do you konw someone to help us in Europe? > > > > 2008/9/4 Kushal Das > > > > On Thursday 04 September 2008 03:29:02 pm Victor > > Fernandez wrote: > > > I have a good reason for you... nobody could send > > me DVDs here in Spain, > > > bit I'm sure you could help us with this simply > > task. > > > > Any one from EU ? > > > > > > Kushal > > -- > > Fedora Ambassador, India > > http://kushaldas.in > > http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur) > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And the ideas are great. Do you want to put some stall there. Basically what we do here is put some stall and sell some souvenirs like T-Shirts, Stickers, Bag Tags etc for fund. If you think its worth while we can provide you some cultural T-Shirts, Stickers and Bag Tags that promotes open source at cost only price. Don't know but I guess this might help! You can sell them and get some fund for you. Tushar On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 08:37 +0545, Tushar Neupaney wrote: > I don't know what can be done. > > When do you want the OSWC to happen! > > May be I can send you a documentary movie about Open Source that we > are creating. > And let's see what we can do. More details man! > > > On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 13:12 +0200, Victor Fernandez wrote: > > > I tell you our idea. Fist of all we need to create the > > http://es.fedoraproject.org to focus here all spanish activities > > also with the email list and irc channel. > > > > Last weeks ago, I post teh OSWC 08 > > http://www.opensourceworldconference.com/oswc/programme but everyone > > tell to me hat threre isn't funds. > > > > This is the kinds of event we want to cover and all of this smaller. > > > > Could you help us? > > > > Regards. > > > > 2008/9/4 Tushar Neupaney > > > > Ya, It will always be better if someone from Europe help > > you. > > > > And I guess you can find someone. > > > > Is no one here from Europe? > > > > It costs $40 to send you courier from Nepal to Spain and I > > have to keep it below 1 kilo gram. > > > > And I hope this is costly for (Maybe I can send you 25) 25 > > DVDs. > > > > Lets wait some time for some response from europe? > > > > Tushar > > > > > > On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 12:06 +0200, Victor Fernandez wrote: > > > > > > > Do you konw someone to help us in Europe? > > > > > > 2008/9/4 Kushal Das > > > > > > On Thursday 04 September 2008 03:29:02 pm Victor > > > Fernandez wrote: > > > > I have a good reason for you... nobody could > > > send me DVDs here in Spain, > > > > bit I'm sure you could help us with this simply > > > task. > > > > > > Any one from EU ? > > > > > > > > > Kushal > > > -- > > > Fedora Ambassador, India > > > http://kushaldas.in > > > http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur) > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks - Grady 2008/9/4 ElectroMech > We request you all to submit the request for Free DVD of Fedora 9 to > following website. > > This is just for our record. > > So we can submit monthly report to fedora How many DVD requested and > supplied. > > > http://www.vglug.info/get-fedora-dvd > > Give your feed back. > -- > > -- > Nilesh Vaghela > ElectroMech > Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner > 16, Sun Rise complex, > Nr. Mansi cross Road, > Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad > 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. > www.electromech.info > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From electromech at electromech.info Fri Sep 5 05:00:58 2008 From: electromech at electromech.info (ElectroMech) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:30:58 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD In-Reply-To: References: <24233aca0809042155nfe02119xfd4413be7b1d6c33@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <24233aca0809042200u6312eeeam97d764d627e6f01d@mail.gmail.com> Yes, But presently it is Limited for India Only. Sorry for other country. We have only office in India. 2008/9/5 Grady Laksmono > Is that for real? We could request the DVD through the website? I thought > that we have our own website from Red Hat? I'd like to request some. > Thanks > - Grady > > 2008/9/4 ElectroMech > >> We request you all to submit the request for Free DVD of Fedora 9 to >> following website. >> >> This is just for our record. >> >> So we can submit monthly report to fedora How many DVD requested and >> supplied. >> >> >> http://www.vglug.info/get-fedora-dvd >> >> Give your feed back. >> -- >> >> -- >> Nilesh Vaghela >> ElectroMech >> Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner >> 16, Sun Rise complex, >> Nr. Mansi cross Road, >> Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad >> 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. >> www.electromech.info >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner 16, Sun Rise complex, Nr. Mansi cross Road, Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. www.electromech.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradyfausta at laksmono.com Fri Sep 5 05:06:17 2008 From: gradyfausta at laksmono.com (Grady Laksmono) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 22:06:17 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD In-Reply-To: <24233aca0809042200u6312eeeam97d764d627e6f01d@mail.gmail.com> References: <24233aca0809042155nfe02119xfd4413be7b1d6c33@mail.gmail.com> <24233aca0809042200u6312eeeam97d764d627e6f01d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ouch,Where's the U.S? - Grady 2008/9/4 ElectroMech > Yes, > > But presently it is Limited for India Only. > > Sorry for other country. > > We have only office in India. > > 2008/9/5 Grady Laksmono > > Is that for real? We could request the DVD through the website? I thought >> that we have our own website from Red Hat? I'd like to request some. >> Thanks >> - Grady >> >> 2008/9/4 ElectroMech >> >>> We request you all to submit the request for Free DVD of Fedora 9 to >>> following website. >>> >>> This is just for our record. >>> >>> So we can submit monthly report to fedora How many DVD requested and >>> supplied. >>> >>> >>> http://www.vglug.info/get-fedora-dvd >>> >>> Give your feed back. >>> -- >>> >>> -- >>> Nilesh Vaghela >>> ElectroMech >>> Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner >>> 16, Sun Rise complex, >>> Nr. Mansi cross Road, >>> Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad >>> 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. >>> www.electromech.info >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > > -- > Nilesh Vaghela > ElectroMech > Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner > 16, Sun Rise complex, > Nr. Mansi cross Road, > Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad > 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. > www.electromech.info > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[Sorry, I couldn't resist.] Larry Cafiero From gradyfausta at laksmono.com Fri Sep 5 05:20:14 2008 From: gradyfausta at laksmono.com (Grady Laksmono) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 22:20:14 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080809042211r5ff5c819k6b59d7444eed65c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <24233aca0809042155nfe02119xfd4413be7b1d6c33@mail.gmail.com> <24233aca0809042200u6312eeeam97d764d627e6f01d@mail.gmail.com> <7a0d56080809042211r5ff5c819k6b59d7444eed65c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Really..? Haha.. Is there a free media distributor for Fedora 9 in the U.S? (Cuz I had to pay last time for the Release Party, luckily it was covered by FAMScO) If so, where are they..? - Grady On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Larry Cafiero wrote: > 2008/9/4 Grady Laksmono : > > > Where's the U.S? > > South of Canada and north of Mexico. > > [Sorry, I couldn't resist.] > > Larry Cafiero > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sanjay_ankur at yahoo.co.in Fri Sep 5 06:03:30 2008 From: sanjay_ankur at yahoo.co.in (ankur sinha) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 11:33:30 +0530 (IST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD In-Reply-To: <24233aca0809042155nfe02119xfd4413be7b1d6c33@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <678351.17814.qm@web8406.mail.in.yahoo.com> hi,need to clarify.. Do we (people who have volunteered to provide free media by accepting requests) have to use this site or is it for people who need free media (ones using the form) ?? regards,,Ankur --- On Fri, 5/9/08, ElectroMech wrote: From: ElectroMech Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Date: Friday, 5 September, 2008, 10:25 AM We request you all to submit the request for Free DVD of Fedora 9 to following website. This is just for our record. So we can submit monthly report to fedora How many DVD requested and supplied. http://www.vglug.info/get-fedora-dvd Give your feed back. -- -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner 16, Sun Rise complex, Nr. Mansi cross Road, Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. www.electromech.info -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sujansunil at gmail.com Fri Sep 5 06:50:09 2008 From: sujansunil at gmail.com (sujan sunil pilli) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:20:09 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] (no subject) Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nehal.dattani at gmail.com Fri Sep 5 07:17:02 2008 From: nehal.dattani at gmail.com (nehal dattani) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:47:02 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD In-Reply-To: <678351.17814.qm@web8406.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <24233aca0809042155nfe02119xfd4413be7b1d6c33@mail.gmail.com> <678351.17814.qm@web8406.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <702a203e0809050017l29b82cfuef12da2808f336bf@mail.gmail.com> Hi Ankur, Here is the clarification you need 1) This site is in support of free media program, not an individual/different group. 2) As there are less ambassadors in western region of india,perticularly in gujarat. we are getting more requests for free media and its difficult to track all the requests so we have created this site. 3) This link is *only for End users who want to collect their media from us* . Pls contact me/nilesh sir for any further clarification,if required. Thanks and Regards, Nehal Dattani. 2008/9/5 ankur sinha > hi, > > need to clarify.. Do we (people who have volunteered to provide free media > by accepting requests) have to use this site or is it for people who need > free media (ones using the form) ?? > > regards,, > > Ankur > > --- On *Fri, 5/9/08, ElectroMech * wrote: > > From: ElectroMech > Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Date: Friday, 5 September, 2008, 10:25 AM > > > We request you all to submit the request for Free DVD of Fedora 9 to > following website. > > This is just for our record. > > So we can submit monthly report to fedora How many DVD requested and > supplied. > > > http://www.vglug.info/get-fedora-dvd > > Give your feed back. > -- > > -- > Nilesh Vaghela > ElectroMech > Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner > 16, Sun Rise complex, > Nr. Mansi cross Road, > Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad > 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. > www.electromech.info > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing listFedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.comhttps://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > ------------------------------ > Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sanjay_ankur at yahoo.co.in Fri Sep 5 07:24:50 2008 From: sanjay_ankur at yahoo.co.in (ankur sinha) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:54:50 +0530 (IST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD In-Reply-To: <702a203e0809050017l29b82cfuef12da2808f336bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <448567.37902.qm@web8408.mail.in.yahoo.com> hi,we already have a free media and a local contacts tracking page.. Have you received personal media requests? please refer fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/ FreeMedia/India/LocalContactsfedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India Why dont you join these programmes?? There are only 5 of us according to the page.. :(? This is the official fedora programme.. You can first fill up the free-media requests and also answer personal requests?regards,Ankur--- On Fri, 5/9/08, nehal dattani wrote: From: nehal dattani Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD To: sanjay_ankur at yahoo.co.in, fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Date: Friday, 5 September, 2008, 12:47 PM Hi Ankur, Here is the clarification you need 1) This site is in support of free media program, not an individual/different group. 2) As there are less ambassadors in western region of india,perticularly in gujarat. we are getting more requests for free media and its difficult to track all the requests so we have created this site. 3) This link is only for End users who want to collect their media from us. Pls contact me/nilesh sir for any further clarification,if required. Thanks and Regards, Nehal Dattani. 2008/9/5 ankur sinha hi,need to clarify.. Do we (people who have volunteered to provide free media by accepting requests) have to use this site or is it for people who need free media (ones using the form) ?? regards,,Ankur --- On Fri, 5/9/08, ElectroMech wrote: From: ElectroMech Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Date: Friday, 5 September, 2008, 10:25 AM We request you all to submit the request for Free DVD of Fedora 9 to following website. This is just for our record. So we can submit monthly report to fedora How many DVD requested and supplied. http://www.vglug.info/get-fedora-dvd Give your feed back. -- -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner 16, Sun Rise complex, Nr. Mansi cross Road, Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. www.electromech.info -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Get an email ID as yourname at ymail.com or yourname at rocketmail.com. Click here http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From danishka at gmail.com Fri Sep 5 10:28:23 2008 From: danishka at gmail.com (Danishka Navin) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:58:23 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Event in Sri Lanka Message-ID: Folks, Again we got an invitation from National Institute of Education Sri Lanka. This is the second fedora event @ NIE https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/SriLanka/NIE2 Another one for North Western Provincial Teachers https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/SriLanka/NWprovince Regards, -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com (use Sinhala Unicode fonts) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tatadbb at gmail.com Fri Sep 5 10:29:07 2008 From: tatadbb at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 05:59:07 +1930 Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD In-Reply-To: <448567.37902.qm@web8408.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <702a203e0809050017l29b82cfuef12da2808f336bf@mail.gmail.com> <448567.37902.qm@web8408.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <27a6293b0809050329p3233673emc5cd78be80a5d7d0@mail.gmail.com> When the rest of Latin America will have this kind of service? I know that Brazil have some FreeMedia Service but is not the most used languaje in Latin America, so; sometimes is not properly to give a Spanish user a DVD with a Brazilian cover. Could we make a generic Spanish media to serve the rest of latin america? (even Mexico and Central America) 2008/9/6 ankur sinha > hi, > > we already have a free media and a local contacts tracking page.. Have you > received personal media requests? please refer > > fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/ FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts > > fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India > > Why dont you join these programmes?? There are only 5 of us according to > the page.. :( This is the official fedora programme.. You can first fill up > the free-media requests and also answer personal requests? > > regards, > > Ankur > > --- On *Fri, 5/9/08, nehal dattani * wrote: > > From: nehal dattani > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD > To: sanjay_ankur at yahoo.co.in, fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Date: Friday, 5 September, 2008, 12:47 PM > > > Hi Ankur, > > Here is the clarification you need > > 1) This site is in support of free media program, not an > individual/different group. > > 2) As there are less ambassadors in western region of india,perticularly in > gujarat. we are getting more requests for free media and its difficult to > track all the requests so we have created this site. > > 3) This link is *only for End users who want to collect their media from > us*. > > > Pls contact me/nilesh sir for any further clarification,if required. > > Thanks and Regards, > Nehal Dattani. > > 2008/9/5 ankur sinha > >> hi, >> >> need to clarify.. Do we (people who have volunteered to provide free media >> by accepting requests) have to use this site or is it for people who need >> free media (ones using the form) ?? >> >> regards,, >> >> Ankur >> >> --- On *Fri, 5/9/08, ElectroMech * wrote: >> >> From: ElectroMech >> Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD >> To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> Date: Friday, 5 September, 2008, 10:25 AM >> >> We request you all to submit the request for Free DVD of Fedora 9 to >> following website. >> >> This is just for our record. >> >> So we can submit monthly report to fedora How many DVD requested and >> supplied. >> >> >> http://www.vglug.info/get-fedora-dvd >> >> Give your feed back. >> -- >> >> -- >> Nilesh Vaghela >> ElectroMech >> Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner >> 16, Sun Rise complex, >> Nr. Mansi cross Road, >> Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad >> 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. >> www.electromech.info >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing listFedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.comhttps://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > ------------------------------ > Get an email ID as yourname at ymail.com or yourname at rocketmail.com. Click > here. > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 9/5/08, Frank Murphy wrote: > Please can the top-posting be stopped, > it's hard to follow a conversation. > > Frank > > > -- http://satish.playdrupal.com From frankly3d at gmail.com Fri Sep 5 11:42:24 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:42:24 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD In-Reply-To: <93655eb70809050424q30708c38r773c49ec9bea28f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <702a203e0809050017l29b82cfuef12da2808f336bf@mail.gmail.com> <448567.37902.qm@web8408.mail.in.yahoo.com> <27a6293b0809050329p3233673emc5cd78be80a5d7d0@mail.gmail.com> <1220611085.2462.18.camel@frank-01> <93655eb70809050424q30708c38r773c49ec9bea28f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1220614945.2462.20.camel@frank-01> On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 16:54 +0530, Satish Eerpini wrote: > one more doubt , ... is the media provided , constantly updated , > ..... for example , a little time ago there was a Fedora 9 ( unity ) > release, which also contained all the updates untill then ?? > > On 9/5/08, Frank Murphy wrote: > > Please can the top-posting be stopped, > > it's hard to follow a conversation. > > > > Frank > > Not covered by freemedia -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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HAHAHAHA. Sorry can not resist. Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.in http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur) From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 5 12:13:38 2008 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:13:38 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD In-Reply-To: <93655eb70809050424q30708c38r773c49ec9bea28f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <702a203e0809050017l29b82cfuef12da2808f336bf@mail.gmail.com> <448567.37902.qm@web8408.mail.in.yahoo.com> <27a6293b0809050329p3233673emc5cd78be80a5d7d0@mail.gmail.com> <1220611085.2462.18.camel@frank-01> <93655eb70809050424q30708c38r773c49ec9bea28f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <56264.VwBUX1dRCno=.1220616818.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> >> Please can the top-posting be stopped, >> it's hard to follow a conversation. >> Agreed. :) There are 2 things that are puzzling me about this: http://www.vglug.info/get-fedora-dvd First of all, having a nice web form to ask for free media is great. Couldn't we have that in the Fedora Infrastructure, instead of spreading it in each countries ? This would give a bit more credibility to the program cause "Hey, I don't know who those vglug guys are, I want a Fedora media, can I trust them ?" ;) It looks like there's already something more central on the wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreeMedia Adding a nice webapp with a form to automate the procedure that is described on this page could be much better than doing this stuff each one in a different location. Second, we're talking about Free Media program right ? Not about the vendors who want to distribute Fedora for profit (correct me if I'm wrong). However, the site specifies: "We will be charging you for the media and for shipping and handling expenses. (CD-Rs.15, DVD-Rs.25, S&H-Rs.35)" Charging for the shippingand the media ? o_O The same wiki page says: "Fedora Free Media Program is a volunteer initiative under Fedora Distribution Project that aims to distribute Fedora Media (DVDs) for free to individuals who can't afford to buy or download." This one says: (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/Information) "# Limit to only 1 DVD per request per person per release to cut cost and time. # Please note this is a volunteer initiative by local Fedora Ambassadors or Contributors who are willing to burn DVDs and ship them with their own resources (DVD writer, blank media, shipping materials and postage). # This means they can only ship a limited number of DVDs per week. You can expect them to send out an average of 2 DVDs a week. # Your Free Media request might not be fulfilled at this time as this program depends on their own time and expenses." So it looks to me that your site should be more something like https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/OnlineVendors Maybe that's what you wanted to talk about, but as the subject of the mail is "Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD",... Regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin From frankly3d at gmail.com Fri Sep 5 12:36:36 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:36:36 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD In-Reply-To: <56264.VwBUX1dRCno=.1220616818.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> References: <702a203e0809050017l29b82cfuef12da2808f336bf@mail.gmail.com> <448567.37902.qm@web8408.mail.in.yahoo.com> <27a6293b0809050329p3233673emc5cd78be80a5d7d0@mail.gmail.com> <1220611085.2462.18.camel@frank-01> <93655eb70809050424q30708c38r773c49ec9bea28f8@mail.gmail.com> <56264.VwBUX1dRCno=.1220616818.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: <1220618196.2462.26.camel@frank-01> On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 14:13 +0200, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: > There are 2 things that are puzzling me about this: > http://www.vglug.info/get-fedora-dvd > > First of all, having a nice web form to ask for free media is great. > Couldn't we have that in the Fedora Infrastructure, Ther's a mailist request form. > instead of spreading > it in each countries ? On https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreeMedia It shows the different "country programs" all controlled by Fedora-Free Media Project. Beacause it was felt these coutries could be handles by the local volunteers. > Second, we're talking about Free Media program right ? Not about the > vendors who want to distribute Fedora for profit (correct me if I'm > wrong). > > However, the site specifies: > "We will be charging you for the media and for shipping and handling > expenses. (CD-Rs.15, DVD-Rs.25, S&H-Rs.35)" > Charging for the shippingand the media ? o_O > Thats definatly a vendor to my eyes. > > Maybe that's what you wanted to talk about, but as the subject of the mail > is "Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD",... Slightly misleading..hopefully a typo. Frank Fedora Ireland Ambassador. From electromech at electromech.info Fri Sep 5 12:56:52 2008 From: electromech at electromech.info (ElectroMech) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 18:26:52 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD In-Reply-To: <1220618196.2462.26.camel@frank-01> References: <702a203e0809050017l29b82cfuef12da2808f336bf@mail.gmail.com> <448567.37902.qm@web8408.mail.in.yahoo.com> <27a6293b0809050329p3233673emc5cd78be80a5d7d0@mail.gmail.com> <1220611085.2462.18.camel@frank-01> <93655eb70809050424q30708c38r773c49ec9bea28f8@mail.gmail.com> <56264.VwBUX1dRCno=.1220616818.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <1220618196.2462.26.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <24233aca0809050556o7d726fe7kd6db5bd784fbf42a@mail.gmail.com> Sorry to all, Please suggest us so there should not be any conflict. ( whether we are in right direction or not ). About the Service 1. Request only for Fedora dvd media will be accepted. 2. There will be no charge for the media. ( Mostly not even for shipping charges for anywhere in India ). 3. As a fedora Ambassador we are doing this, the activities are again part of fedora ambassador project only. We will submit the complete report to fedora ambassador list monthly basis. 4. This service is currently available only in India. 5. This service is a beta service. 6. Anybody feel violation or what we are doing is not suitable or acceptable under fedora Ambassador please let us know. ( According to your suggestion we may change our way to provide the service ). 7. Our AIM TO PROVIDE SUPPORT AND SERVICE AT OUR LEVEL TO THE COMMUNITY. On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 14:13 +0200, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: > > > There are 2 things that are puzzling me about this: > > http://www.vglug.info/get-fedora-dvd > > > > First of all, having a nice web form to ask for free media is great. > > Couldn't we have that in the Fedora Infrastructure, > > Ther's a mailist request form. > > > > instead of spreading > > it in each countries ? > > On https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreeMedia > > It shows the different "country programs" all controlled by Fedora-Free > Media Project. > > Beacause it was felt these coutries could be handles by the local > volunteers. > > > Second, we're talking about Free Media program right ? Not about the > > vendors who want to distribute Fedora for profit (correct me if I'm > > wrong). > > > > However, the site specifies: > > "We will be charging you for the media and for shipping and handling > > expenses. (CD-Rs.15, DVD-Rs.25, S&H-Rs.35)" > > Charging for the shippingand the media ? o_O > > > > Thats definatly a vendor to my eyes. > > > > > > Maybe that's what you wanted to talk about, but as the subject of the > mail > > is "Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD",... > > Slightly misleading..hopefully a typo. > > Frank > Fedora Ireland Ambassador. > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner 16, Sun Rise complex, Nr. Mansi cross Road, Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. www.electromech.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Fri Sep 5 13:24:16 2008 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:24:16 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD In-Reply-To: <702a203e0809050017l29b82cfuef12da2808f336bf@mail.gmail.com> References: <24233aca0809042155nfe02119xfd4413be7b1d6c33@mail.gmail.com> <678351.17814.qm@web8406.mail.in.yahoo.com> <702a203e0809050017l29b82cfuef12da2808f336bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Nehal, Nilesh, & as well as the Fedora Ambassadors. :) I understand your messages. :) Nehal and Nilesh, more power to the both of you and your efforts for spreading Fedora 9 to the Western region of India. Most certainly, that is a great task. :) I see your efforts as admirable indeed. :v) Please have a great day and an enjoyable weekend! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:47:02 +0530 From: nehal.dattani at gmail.com To: sanjay_ankur at yahoo.co.in; fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD CC: Hi Ankur, Here is the clarification you need 1) This site is in support of free media program, not an individual/different group. 2) As there are less ambassadors in western region of india,perticularly in gujarat. we are getting more requests for free media and its difficult to track all the requests so we have created this site. 3) This link is only for End users who want to collect their media from us. Pls contact me/nilesh sir for any further clarification,if required. Thanks and Regards, Nehal Dattani. 2008/9/5 ankur sinha hi,need to clarify.. Do we (people who have volunteered to provide free media by accepting requests) have to use this site or is it for people who need free media (ones using the form) ?? regards,,Ankur --- On Fri, 5/9/08, ElectroMech wrote: From: ElectroMech Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Date: Friday, 5 September, 2008, 10:25 AM We request you all to submit the request for Free DVD of Fedora 9 to following website. This is just for our record. So we can submit monthly report to fedora How many DVD requested and supplied. http://www.vglug.info/get-fedora-dvd Give your feed back. -- -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner 16, Sun Rise complex, Nr. 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( whether we are in > right direction or not ). > Well , I'd suggest for working with the existing process of official FreeMedia program, and not creating a separate branch (that ll be confusing) The current process is integrated (not best automated though) and thats why it is important, you can accept requests and contribute without creating additional forms and stop points. ofcource you can keep your own database of requests. > About the Service > 1. Request only for Fedora dvd media will be accepted. > > 2. There will be no charge for the media. ( Mostly not even for shipping > charges for anywhere in India ). > > 3. As a fedora Ambassador we are doing this, the activities are again part > of fedora ambassador project only. We will submit the complete report to > fedora ambassador list monthly basis. > Fedora Ambassadors contribute and run the FreeMedia program here (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreeMedia) as already mentioned. > 4. This service is currently available only in India. > > 5. This service is a beta service. > i guess you can call this a contribution to the program... > 6. Anybody feel violation or what we are doing is not suitable or acceptable > under fedora Ambassador please let us know. ( According to your suggestion > we may change our way to provide the service ). It is perfectly clear you want to help, and it is possible to have a India specific (country specific) request page so that it is easier to handle things at that level, but it should be an official one, otherwise as i said it will be confusing. > 7. Our AIM TO PROVIDE SUPPORT AND SERVICE AT OUR LEVEL TO THE COMMUNITY. > Please do not caps the text. we know you are serious :) > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > >> On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 14:13 +0200, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: >> >> > There are 2 things that are puzzling me about this: >> > http://www.vglug.info/get-fedora-dvd >> > >> > First of all, having a nice web form to ask for free media is great. >> > Couldn't we have that in the Fedora Infrastructure, >> >> Ther's a mailist request form. >> >> >> > instead of spreading >> > it in each countries ? >> >> On https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreeMedia >> >> It shows the different "country programs" all controlled by Fedora-Free >> Media Project. >> >> Beacause it was felt these coutries could be handles by the local >> volunteers. >> >> > Second, we're talking about Free Media program right ? Not about the >> > vendors who want to distribute Fedora for profit (correct me if I'm >> > wrong). >> > >> > However, the site specifies: >> > "We will be charging you for the media and for shipping and handling >> > expenses. (CD-Rs.15, DVD-Rs.25, S&H-Rs.35)" >> > Charging for the shippingand the media ? o_O >> > >> >> Thats definatly a vendor to my eyes. >> >> >> > >> > Maybe that's what you wanted to talk about, but as the subject of the >> mail >> > is "Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD",... >> >> Slightly misleading..hopefully a typo. >> >> Frank >> Fedora Ireland Ambassador. >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > > -- > > -- > Nilesh Vaghela > ElectroMech > Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner > 16, Sun Rise complex, > Nr. Mansi cross Road, > Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad > 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. > www.electromech.info > Regards Siddharth http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SiddharthUpmanyu From electromech at electromech.info Fri Sep 5 13:49:59 2008 From: electromech at electromech.info (ElectroMech) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:19:59 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD In-Reply-To: References: <702a203e0809050017l29b82cfuef12da2808f336bf@mail.gmail.com> <448567.37902.qm@web8408.mail.in.yahoo.com> <27a6293b0809050329p3233673emc5cd78be80a5d7d0@mail.gmail.com> <1220611085.2462.18.camel@frank-01> <93655eb70809050424q30708c38r773c49ec9bea28f8@mail.gmail.com> <56264.VwBUX1dRCno=.1220616818.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <1220618196.2462.26.camel@frank-01> <24233aca0809050556o7d726fe7kd6db5bd784fbf42a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <24233aca0809050649q3592328ax2082d823f2b56335@mail.gmail.com> Thanx for your suggestion. Our idea is to provide around 500 dvd's per month. ( I hope we can maintain it in long run). For me it is difficult to track the record of the mail. So that why we created this. If it not suitable with fedora ambassador project we will close the form from our community website. More suggestion are welcom. Thanx for your reply. On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 7:12 PM, wrote: > On 9/5/08, ElectroMech wrote: > > Sorry to all, > > > > Please suggest us so there should not be any conflict. ( whether we are > in > > right direction or not ). > > > > Well , I'd suggest for working with the existing process of official > FreeMedia program, and not creating a separate branch (that ll be > confusing) > > The current process is integrated (not best automated though) and > thats why it is important, you can accept requests and contribute > without creating additional forms and stop points. > > ofcource you can keep your own database of requests. > > > > About the Service > > 1. Request only for Fedora dvd media will be accepted. > > > > 2. There will be no charge for the media. ( Mostly not even for shipping > > charges for anywhere in India ). > > > > 3. As a fedora Ambassador we are doing this, the activities are again > part > > of fedora ambassador project only. We will submit the complete report to > > fedora ambassador list monthly basis. > > > > Fedora Ambassadors contribute and run the FreeMedia program here > (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreeMedia) as already mentioned. > > > 4. This service is currently available only in India. > > > > 5. This service is a beta service. > > > > i guess you can call this a contribution to the program... > > > 6. Anybody feel violation or what we are doing is not suitable or > acceptable > > under fedora Ambassador please let us know. ( According to your > suggestion > > we may change our way to provide the service ). > > It is perfectly clear you want to help, and it is possible to have a > India specific (country specific) request page so that it is easier to > handle things at that level, but it should be an official one, > otherwise as i said it will be confusing. > > > 7. Our AIM TO PROVIDE SUPPORT AND SERVICE AT OUR LEVEL TO THE COMMUNITY. > > > > Please do not caps the text. we know you are serious :) > > > > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Frank Murphy > wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 14:13 +0200, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: > >> > >> > There are 2 things that are puzzling me about this: > >> > http://www.vglug.info/get-fedora-dvd > >> > > >> > First of all, having a nice web form to ask for free media is great. > >> > Couldn't we have that in the Fedora Infrastructure, > >> > >> Ther's a mailist request form. > >> > >> > >> > instead of spreading > >> > it in each countries ? > >> > >> On https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreeMedia > >> > >> It shows the different "country programs" all controlled by Fedora-Free > >> Media Project. > >> > >> Beacause it was felt these coutries could be handles by the local > >> volunteers. > >> > >> > Second, we're talking about Free Media program right ? Not about the > >> > vendors who want to distribute Fedora for profit (correct me if I'm > >> > wrong). > >> > > >> > However, the site specifies: > >> > "We will be charging you for the media and for shipping and handling > >> > expenses. (CD-Rs.15, DVD-Rs.25, S&H-Rs.35)" > >> > Charging for the shippingand the media ? o_O > >> > > >> > >> Thats definatly a vendor to my eyes. > >> > >> > >> > > >> > Maybe that's what you wanted to talk about, but as the subject of the > >> mail > >> > is "Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD",... > >> > >> Slightly misleading..hopefully a typo. > >> > >> Frank > >> Fedora Ireland Ambassador. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > > > -- > > Nilesh Vaghela > > ElectroMech > > Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner > > 16, Sun Rise complex, > > Nr. Mansi cross Road, > > Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad > > 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. > > www.electromech.info > > > > Regards > Siddharth > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SiddharthUpmanyu > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner 16, Sun Rise complex, Nr. Mansi cross Road, Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. www.electromech.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oxygenforu88 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 5 14:12:46 2008 From: oxygenforu88 at yahoo.com (Sarbartha Sengupta) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 07:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Help needed regarding establishing wifi internet connection in F9 Message-ID: <942844.93969.qm@web90304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Can someone help me setup a wifi internet connection in F9? My laptop can detect the wifi network and tries to connect. After a while, it asks for the WEP key. After I provide it, it tries to reconnect and then asks for the key again. I am unable to resolve this problem. Please help me. Yours sincerely, Sarbartha Sengupta -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gvarisco at redhat.com Fri Sep 5 14:16:46 2008 From: gvarisco at redhat.com (Gianluca Varisco) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:16:46 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help needed regarding establishing wifi internet connection in F9 In-Reply-To: <942844.93969.qm@web90304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <942844.93969.qm@web90304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48C13F4E.3060905@redhat.com> Sarbartha Sengupta wrote: > Can someone help me setup a wifi internet connection in F9? My laptop > can detect the wifi network and tries to connect. After a while, it asks > for the WEP key. After I provide it, it tries to reconnect and then asks > for the key again. > > I am unable to resolve this problem. Please help me. > Sarbartha, Please post your-email to another list, such as fedora-list: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Thank you. Cheers, -- Gianluca Varisco, RHCE Intern - Web Engineering, Red Hat Italia From subhodip at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 5 15:25:02 2008 From: subhodip at fedoraproject.org (subhodip biswas) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 20:55:02 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD In-Reply-To: <24233aca0809050649q3592328ax2082d823f2b56335@mail.gmail.com> References: <702a203e0809050017l29b82cfuef12da2808f336bf@mail.gmail.com> <448567.37902.qm@web8408.mail.in.yahoo.com> <27a6293b0809050329p3233673emc5cd78be80a5d7d0@mail.gmail.com> <1220611085.2462.18.camel@frank-01> <93655eb70809050424q30708c38r773c49ec9bea28f8@mail.gmail.com> <56264.VwBUX1dRCno=.1220616818.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <1220618196.2462.26.camel@frank-01> <24233aca0809050556o7d726fe7kd6db5bd784fbf42a@mail.gmail.com> <24233aca0809050649q3592328ax2082d823f2b56335@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <539333cb0809050825x6a57e97fufa7710e15af5c584@mail.gmail.com> hi ! Since we cannot handle over a limited number of request per month .but quest for dvd is still there . I feel what vlug guys have done is a good inititiative . if this can be done in regional basis on all countries having bandwidth problem and if we integrate them to freemedia program , i guess we can cover more request in a whole lot organised way . My personal experience : http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/sending-a-freemedia-dvd/ If somebody has solution why not try implementing it . just a thought tho . -- Regards Subhodip Biswas GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Fri Sep 5 15:57:01 2008 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:57:01 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Greetings from Sherbrooke, =?iso-8859-1?q?Qu=E9bec?= Message-ID: <1220630221.19396.1272370641@webmail.messagingengine.com> Hello Ambassadors, I'd like to introduce myself to the Ambassadors group. I'm Ois?n Feeley and am writing from Sherbrooke, Qu?bec, Canada. I've been involved with GNU/Linux since 1995 with the majority of that experience devoted to Red Hat and latterly Fedora. I started experimenting with GNU/Linux when I was a student programming in C using Borland's IDE for Windows and also using Solaris-2.4(SunOS-5.4). On the recommendation of a colleague tried Emacs, gcc and gdb on Red Hat Linux 2.0. It was a revelation both in terms of the workflow and the amount of knowledge freely shared (especially in contrast to the clunky, expensive knowledgebase I had to subscribe to in order to find out about Microsoft Foundation Classes and the impact of the price of Sun's compiler on the laboratory budget). Soon I was sucked in to the excitement of trying different Linux distributions and after some fun with Debian and Slackware settled back on Red Hat Linux. Although I experimented actively with other distributions and had work requirements to support Debian I remained impressed with the commitment of the Red Hat to hire the best developers producing Free Software (for example with the acquisition of Cygnus) and ended up taking the RHCT and RHCE. The foundation of the Fedora Project and its support by Red Hat continues this trend of a successful enterprise carefully nurturing the base of Free Software in which it thrives. Currently I work supporting Fedora, CentOS and Debian for some small businesses. I'm also involved in developing modules for Drupal (using JavaScript and PHP) for an education-sector company. Within the Fedora Project my contributions centre on writing the Development Beat for Fedora Weekly News. I also participate as part of the editorial team of FWN. I would like to raise the profile of Fedora where I live. Currently most Linux activity seems to be centred on Ubuntu and there are misconceptions and misunderstandings about what Fedora can offer. This area of Canada is predominantly francophone which adds an extra challenge to my task as I'm originally an English-speaker (from Ireland), mais je suis ?tudiant en fran?ais! Best wishes, -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From nehal.dattani at gmail.com Fri Sep 5 16:01:10 2008 From: nehal.dattani at gmail.com (nehal dattani) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 21:31:10 +0530 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[Ambassadors]_Greetings_from_Sherbrooke, _Qu=E9bec?= In-Reply-To: <1220630221.19396.1272370641@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1220630221.19396.1272370641@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <702a203e0809050901x6f4ce306wb66212c11a85494a@mail.gmail.com> Welcome to the Team Freedom Regards, Nehal Dattani On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Oisin Feeley wrote: > Hello Ambassadors, > > I'd like to introduce myself to the Ambassadors group. I'm Ois?n Feeley > and am writing from Sherbrooke, Qu?bec, Canada. I've been involved with > GNU/Linux since 1995 with the majority of that experience devoted to Red > Hat and latterly Fedora. I started experimenting with GNU/Linux when I > was a student programming in C using Borland's IDE for Windows and also > using Solaris-2.4(SunOS-5.4). On the recommendation of a colleague tried > Emacs, gcc and gdb on Red Hat Linux 2.0. It was a revelation both in > terms of the workflow and the amount of knowledge freely shared > (especially in contrast to the clunky, expensive knowledgebase I had to > subscribe to in order to find out about Microsoft Foundation Classes and > the impact of the price of Sun's compiler on the laboratory budget). > Soon I was sucked in to the excitement of trying different Linux > distributions and after some fun with Debian and Slackware settled back > on Red Hat Linux. Although I experimented actively with other > distributions and had work requirements to support Debian I remained > impressed with the commitment of the Red Hat to hire the best developers > producing Free Software (for example with the acquisition of Cygnus) and > ended up taking the RHCT and RHCE. The foundation of the Fedora Project > and its support by Red Hat continues this trend of a successful > enterprise carefully nurturing the base of Free Software in which it > thrives. > > Currently I work supporting Fedora, CentOS and Debian for some small > businesses. I'm also involved in developing modules for Drupal (using > JavaScript and PHP) for an education-sector company. Within the Fedora > Project my contributions centre on writing the Development Beat for > Fedora Weekly News. I also participate as part of the editorial team of > FWN. > > I would like to raise the profile of Fedora where I live. Currently most > Linux activity seems to be centred on Ubuntu and there are > misconceptions and misunderstandings about what Fedora can offer. This > area of Canada is predominantly francophone which adds an extra > challenge to my task as I'm originally an English-speaker (from > Ireland), mais je suis ?tudiant en fran?ais! > > Best wishes, > -- > Oisin Feeley > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 5 16:00:54 2008 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:00:54 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Greetings from Sherbrooke, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Qu=E9bec?= In-Reply-To: <1220630221.19396.1272370641@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1220630221.19396.1272370641@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <1220630454.26725.0.camel@redhat> On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 11:57 -0400, Oisin Feeley wrote: > Hello Ambassadors, > > I'd like to introduce myself to the Ambassadors group. I'm Ois?n Feeley > and am writing from Sherbrooke, Qu?bec, Canada. I've been involved with > GNU/Linux since 1995 with the majority of that experience devoted to Red > Hat and latterly Fedora. I started experimenting with GNU/Linux when I > was a student programming in C using Borland's IDE for Windows and also > using Solaris-2.4(SunOS-5.4). On the recommendation of a colleague tried > Emacs, gcc and gdb on Red Hat Linux 2.0. It was a revelation both in > terms of the workflow and the amount of knowledge freely shared > (especially in contrast to the clunky, expensive knowledgebase I had to > subscribe to in order to find out about Microsoft Foundation Classes and > the impact of the price of Sun's compiler on the laboratory budget). > Soon I was sucked in to the excitement of trying different Linux > distributions and after some fun with Debian and Slackware settled back > on Red Hat Linux. Although I experimented actively with other > distributions and had work requirements to support Debian I remained > impressed with the commitment of the Red Hat to hire the best developers > producing Free Software (for example with the acquisition of Cygnus) and > ended up taking the RHCT and RHCE. The foundation of the Fedora Project > and its support by Red Hat continues this trend of a successful > enterprise carefully nurturing the base of Free Software in which it > thrives. > > Currently I work supporting Fedora, CentOS and Debian for some small > businesses. I'm also involved in developing modules for Drupal (using > JavaScript and PHP) for an education-sector company. Within the Fedora > Project my contributions centre on writing the Development Beat for > Fedora Weekly News. I also participate as part of the editorial team of > FWN. > > I would like to raise the profile of Fedora where I live. Currently most > Linux activity seems to be centred on Ubuntu and there are > misconceptions and misunderstandings about what Fedora can offer. This > area of Canada is predominantly francophone which adds an extra > challenge to my task as I'm originally an English-speaker (from > Ireland), mais je suis ?tudiant en fran?ais! > > Best wishes, Welcome to the Ambassadors Family :) Cheers and good luck, Pawel Sadowski From eerpini at gmail.com Fri Sep 5 16:40:04 2008 From: eerpini at gmail.com (Satish Eerpini) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 22:10:04 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD In-Reply-To: <539333cb0809050825x6a57e97fufa7710e15af5c584@mail.gmail.com> References: <702a203e0809050017l29b82cfuef12da2808f336bf@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0809050329p3233673emc5cd78be80a5d7d0@mail.gmail.com> <1220611085.2462.18.camel@frank-01> <93655eb70809050424q30708c38r773c49ec9bea28f8@mail.gmail.com> <56264.VwBUX1dRCno=.1220616818.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <1220618196.2462.26.camel@frank-01> <24233aca0809050556o7d726fe7kd6db5bd784fbf42a@mail.gmail.com> <24233aca0809050649q3592328ax2082d823f2b56335@mail.gmail.com> <539333cb0809050825x6a57e97fufa7710e15af5c584@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <93655eb70809050940v37bddc48s90d8c888d32cdf3c@mail.gmail.com> yes guys , its a great initiative , ..... ideas like this might help us remove the one disadvantage we have when compared to utnubu ( or so people believe ) , that we can't provide free media as good as they do ( good in the sense the time and availability of delivery ) , .... but all these activities need to be more centralised , they can be regionalised but have to be under a central authority ( for credibility issues ) , ... and are extremely useful in countries like india ........ as far as my knowledge goes , Fedora is greatly popular in india because it comes in a DVD( DVD is the most popular one ) which has everything you would ever need ! please do correct me if i am wrong , .... Satish On 9/5/08, subhodip biswas wrote: > hi ! > > Since we cannot handle over a limited number of request per month .but > quest for dvd is still there . > > I feel what vlug guys have done is a good inititiative . if this can > be done in regional basis on all countries having bandwidth problem > and if we integrate them to freemedia program , i guess we can cover > more request in a whole lot organised way . > > My personal experience : > http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/sending-a-freemedia-dvd/ > > If somebody has solution why not try implementing it . > > just a thought tho . > > -- > Regards > Subhodip Biswas > > GPG key : FAEA34AB > Server : pgp.mit.edu > http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com > http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- http://satish.playdrupal.com From avinashsingh_87 at hotmail.com Fri Sep 5 16:45:59 2008 From: avinashsingh_87 at hotmail.com (avinash singh) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 22:15:59 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD In-Reply-To: <93655eb70809050940v37bddc48s90d8c888d32cdf3c@mail.gmail.com> References: <702a203e0809050017l29b82cfuef12da2808f336bf@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0809050329p3233673emc5cd78be80a5d7d0@mail.gmail.com> <1220611085.2462.18.camel@frank-01> <93655eb70809050424q30708c38r773c49ec9bea28f8@mail.gmail.com> <56264.VwBUX1dRCno=.1220616818.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <1220618196.2462.26.camel@frank-01> <24233aca0809050556o7d726fe7kd6db5bd784fbf42a@mail.gmail.com> <24233aca0809050649q3592328ax2082d823f2b56335@mail.gmail.com> <539333cb0809050825x6a57e97fufa7710e15af5c584@mail.gmail.com> <93655eb70809050940v37bddc48s90d8c888d32cdf3c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Here in India's Uttar Pradesh if anybody want CD/DVD of fedora from my city that is Kanpur then contact me. Avinash Singh > Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 22:10:04 +0530> From: eerpini at gmail.com> To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD> > yes guys , its a great initiative , .....> ideas like this might help us remove the one disadvantage we have when> compared to utnubu ( or so people believe ) , that we can't provide> free media as good as they do ( good in the sense the time and> availability of delivery ) , ....> > but all these activities need to be more centralised , they can be> regionalised but have to be under a central authority ( for> credibility issues ) , ... and are extremely useful in countries like> india ........> > as far as my knowledge goes , Fedora is greatly popular in india> because it comes in a DVD( DVD is the most popular one ) which has> everything you would ever need !> > please do correct me if i am wrong , ....> > Satish> > On 9/5/08, subhodip biswas wrote:> > hi !> >> > Since we cannot handle over a limited number of request per month .but> > quest for dvd is still there .> >> > I feel what vlug guys have done is a good inititiative . if this can> > be done in regional basis on all countries having bandwidth problem> > and if we integrate them to freemedia program , i guess we can cover> > more request in a whole lot organised way .> >> > My personal experience :> > http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/sending-a-freemedia-dvd/> >> > If somebody has solution why not try implementing it .> >> > just a thought tho .> >> > --> > Regards> > Subhodip Biswas> >> > GPG key : FAEA34AB> > Server : pgp.mit.edu> > http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com> > http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas> >> > --> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list> >> > > -- > http://satish.playdrupal.com> > --> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list _________________________________________________________________ Movies, sports & news! 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Avinash Singh [http://graphics.hotmail.com/i.p.emgift.gif] > Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 22:10:04 +0530 > From: eerpini at gmail.com > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD > > yes guys , its a great initiative , ..... > ideas like this might help us remove the one disadvantage we have when > compared to utnubu ( or so people believe ) , that we can't provide > free media as good as they do ( good in the sense the time and > availability of delivery ) , .... > > but all these activities need to be more centralised , they can be > regionalised but have to be under a central authority ( for > credibility issues ) , ... and are extremely useful in countries like > india ........ > > as far as my knowledge goes , Fedora is greatly popular in india > because it comes in a DVD( DVD is the most popular one ) which has > everything you would ever need ! > > please do correct me if i am wrong , .... > > Satish > > On 9/5/08, subhodip biswas wrote: >> hi ! >> >> Since we cannot handle over a limited number of request per month .but >> quest for dvd is still there . >> >> I feel what vlug guys have done is a good inititiative . if this can >> be done in regional basis on all countries having bandwidth problem >> and if we integrate them to freemedia program , i guess we can cover >> more request in a whole lot organised way . >> >> My personal experience : >> http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/sending-a-freemedia-dvd/ >> >> If somebody has solution why not try implementing it . >> >> just a thought tho . >> >> -- >> Regards >> Subhodip Biswas >> >> GPG key : FAEA34AB >> Server : pgp.mit.edu >> http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com >> http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > -- > http://satish.playdrupal.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list ________________________________ Voice your opinion on the burning issues of the day. Discuss, debate with the world. Logon to message boards on MSN. Try it! From david at gnsa.us Fri Sep 5 17:17:35 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:17:35 -0400 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[Ambassadors]_Greetings_from_Sherbrooke, _Qu=E9bec?= In-Reply-To: <1220630221.19396.1272370641@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1220630221.19396.1272370641@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Oisin Feeley wrote: > Hello Ambassadors, > > I'd like to introduce myself to the Ambassadors group. I'm Ois?n Feeley > and am writing from Sherbrooke, Qu?bec, Canada. I've been involved with > GNU/Linux since 1995 with the majority of that experience devoted to Red > Hat and latterly Fedora. I started experimenting with GNU/Linux when I > was a student programming in C using Borland's IDE for Windows and also > using Solaris-2.4(SunOS-5.4). On the recommendation of a colleague tried > Emacs, gcc and gdb on Red Hat Linux 2.0. It was a revelation both in > terms of the workflow and the amount of knowledge freely shared > (especially in contrast to the clunky, expensive knowledgebase I had to > subscribe to in order to find out about Microsoft Foundation Classes and > the impact of the price of Sun's compiler on the laboratory budget). > Soon I was sucked in to the excitement of trying different Linux > distributions and after some fun with Debian and Slackware settled back > on Red Hat Linux. Although I experimented actively with other > distributions and had work requirements to support Debian I remained > impressed with the commitment of the Red Hat to hire the best developers > producing Free Software (for example with the acquisition of Cygnus) and > ended up taking the RHCT and RHCE. The foundation of the Fedora Project > and its support by Red Hat continues this trend of a successful > enterprise carefully nurturing the base of Free Software in which it > thrives. > > Currently I work supporting Fedora, CentOS and Debian for some small > businesses. I'm also involved in developing modules for Drupal (using > JavaScript and PHP) for an education-sector company. Within the Fedora > Project my contributions centre on writing the Development Beat for > Fedora Weekly News. I also participate as part of the editorial team of > FWN. > > I would like to raise the profile of Fedora where I live. Currently most > Linux activity seems to be centred on Ubuntu and there are > misconceptions and misunderstandings about what Fedora can offer. This > area of Canada is predominantly francophone which adds an extra > challenge to my task as I'm originally an English-speaker (from > Ireland), mais je suis ?tudiant en fran?ais! > > Best wishes, > -- > Oisin Feeley > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley Hi Oisin, Welcome to the group. A couple of things to note - The North American Ambassadors meeting is Tuesday at 9pm Eastern (Wednesday 0100 UTC). in #fedora-meeting. A good number of us tend to hang out in #fedora-mktg and #fedora-ambassadors, so feel free to join us. NA is kind of split into regions - West US, Central US, East US, and Canada (I know it's ironic that the second largest country on earth is a single region) You'll notice that Rashadul Islam is the regional coordinator for Canada - if you need anything he should be able to get it for you, and help you put together events, etc. If you don't mind, how about adding your name/location/city to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Regions You might also want to read this document: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica/Expectations If you need help or have questions, please don't hesitate to ask. David Nalley From sanjay_ankur at yahoo.co.in Fri Sep 5 17:25:54 2008 From: sanjay_ankur at yahoo.co.in (ankur sinha) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 22:55:54 +0530 (IST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD Message-ID: <422676.80815.qm@web8405.mail.in.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 5/9/08, ankur sinha wrote: From: ankur sinha Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD To: "nehal dattani" Date: Friday, 5 September, 2008, 10:54 PM >>--- On Fri, 5/9/08, nehal dattani wrote: >>From: nehal dattani >>Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD >>To: sanjay_ankur at yahoo.co.in >>Date: Friday, 5 September, 2008, 7:33 PM >>On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:54 PM, ankur sinha wrote: >>hi,we already have a free media and a local contacts tracking page.. I know that we already >>have a free medai and a local tracking page.? >>Have you received personal media requests?Yes i have received many requests for >>personal media and distributed it.? >>please refer >>fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/ FreeMedia/India/LocalContactsfedoraproject.org/wiki/>>Distribution/FreeMedia/India >>Why dont you join these programmes?? There are only 5 of us according to the page.. :(? >>This is the official fedora programme.. You can first fill up the free-media requests and also >>answer personal requests? >>Now its my time to say you that you pls refer >>https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts >>My name is very first in that list >>Regards, >>Nehal Dattani hi, i dont understand the "Now its my time to say you that you pls refer .." bit.. Itll be better if all concerned sign up for the one already present freemedia program (apart local contacts) rather than having more indivisual ones..Lets us keep a record of things.. Also if you send media in the local contacts page please put it up on the tracker page.. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts/LocalRequests regards, Ankur Get an email ID as yourname at ymail.com or yourname at rocketmail.com. Click here. Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From herlo1 at gmail.com Fri Sep 5 19:59:26 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:59:26 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] UTOSC 2008 Report Message-ID: Well, I know FUDCon Brno is going on right now, I hope everyone is having fun over there. But I thought I'd better get this going before I head out on the road again for a bunch of weeks. I've been a bit busy cleaning up after UTOSC 2008, but now that I'm back in the swing of things, there were several blog posts. A couple were by me and a few by others to help give an overview of the conference and its goings on. Here's a quick list: A couple from me: http://fedoratutorials.com/2008/08/29/utosc-2008-day-1/ http://fedoratutorials.com/2008/08/30/utosc-2008-day-2/ A couple from Paul: http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1147 http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1143 >From others, possibly related to Fedora: http://www.fozzilinymoo.org/Fozzolog/2008/08/utosc-day-1.html http://testopia.blogspot.com/2008/09/utosc-2008.html http://pyrous.net/blog/?p=14 http://blog.endpoint.com/2008/08/camps-presentation-at-utosc-2008.html We also have tons of pictures up on our flickr page: http://flickr.com/groups/utosc/pool/ From david at gnsa.us Fri Sep 5 20:44:26 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:44:26 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] UTOSC 2008 Report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Clint Savage wrote: > Well, I know FUDCon Brno is going on right now, I hope everyone is > having fun over there. But I thought I'd better get this going before > I head out on the road again for a bunch of weeks. > > I've been a bit busy cleaning up after UTOSC 2008, but now that I'm > back in the swing of things, there were several blog posts. A couple > were by me and a few by others to help give an overview of the > conference and its goings on. Here's a quick list: > > A couple from me: > http://fedoratutorials.com/2008/08/29/utosc-2008-day-1/ > http://fedoratutorials.com/2008/08/30/utosc-2008-day-2/ > > A couple from Paul: > http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1147 > http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1143 > > >From others, possibly related to Fedora: > http://www.fozzilinymoo.org/Fozzolog/2008/08/utosc-day-1.html > http://testopia.blogspot.com/2008/09/utosc-2008.html > http://pyrous.net/blog/?p=14 > http://blog.endpoint.com/2008/08/camps-presentation-at-utosc-2008.html > > We also have tons of pictures up on our flickr page: > > http://flickr.com/groups/utosc/pool/ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Wow- sounds like a great event. A few questions for you: How many people were at the conference? How much media was handed out? How many contributors did you garner (I know of at least one)? Any questions I should have asked but didn't? From stickster at gmail.com Fri Sep 5 21:32:34 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:32:34 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] UTOSC 2008 Report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1220650354.15437.145.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 16:44 -0400, David Nalley wrote: > On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Clint Savage wrote: > > Well, I know FUDCon Brno is going on right now, I hope everyone is > > having fun over there. But I thought I'd better get this going before > > I head out on the road again for a bunch of weeks. > > > > I've been a bit busy cleaning up after UTOSC 2008, but now that I'm > > back in the swing of things, there were several blog posts. A couple > > were by me and a few by others to help give an overview of the > > conference and its goings on. Here's a quick list: > > > > A couple from me: > > http://fedoratutorials.com/2008/08/29/utosc-2008-day-1/ > > http://fedoratutorials.com/2008/08/30/utosc-2008-day-2/ > > > > A couple from Paul: > > http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1147 > > http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1143 > > > > >From others, possibly related to Fedora: > > http://www.fozzilinymoo.org/Fozzolog/2008/08/utosc-day-1.html > > http://testopia.blogspot.com/2008/09/utosc-2008.html > > http://pyrous.net/blog/?p=14 > > http://blog.endpoint.com/2008/08/camps-presentation-at-utosc-2008.html > > > > We also have tons of pictures up on our flickr page: > > > > http://flickr.com/groups/utosc/pool/ > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > Wow- sounds like a great event. > A few questions for you: > > How many people were at the conference? > How much media was handed out? > How many contributors did you garner (I know of at least one)? > Any questions I should have asked but didn't? AIUI, there were around 550+ registrants. We handed out almost all the media that we had, I would say around 100-150 discs total. I know of at least three people that I signed up who are skilled folks that have the ability to make some immediate contributions. I'm regularly in touch with one of them now. More would have been nice, but given the demographics of the attendee I feel we did pretty well, especially deep in Novell land! ;-) -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Here's a quick list: >> >> A couple from me: >> http://fedoratutorials.com/2008/08/29/utosc-2008-day-1/ >> http://fedoratutorials.com/2008/08/30/utosc-2008-day-2/ >> >> A couple from Paul: >> http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1147 >> http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1143 >> >> >From others, possibly related to Fedora: >> http://www.fozzilinymoo.org/Fozzolog/2008/08/utosc-day-1.html >> http://testopia.blogspot.com/2008/09/utosc-2008.html >> http://pyrous.net/blog/?p=14 >> http://blog.endpoint.com/2008/08/camps-presentation-at-utosc-2008.html >> >> We also have tons of pictures up on our flickr page: >> >> http://flickr.com/groups/utosc/pool/ >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > Wow- sounds like a great event. > A few questions for you: > > How many people were at the conference? > How much media was handed out? > How many contributors did you garner (I know of at least one)? > Any questions I should have asked but didn't? > There was a lot of good, hard work (especially on Clint's part) that went into UTOS and overall I would have to say it was a success. But there was a huge blown opportunity - there were no Fedora (or even any Linux) boxes set up to work with the LCD projectors. Instead every presenter had to scramble to get their laptops working to present. In many cases it meant delayed presentations, a poor impression of linux, or the use of Mac or Windows. In the room my talk was in, I watched a prior presenter struggle to get his linux presentation working and finally settling for 640x480. To get a decent resolution, I had to borrow a Macbook Pro, running OSX (and even then I couldn't show or use the bottom status bar during demos). And on keynote night, there was a bunch of sighs and comments around where I was sitting during the time Paul struggled and was delayed getting his keynote presentation running with Fedora. In short - not a very good linux or Fedora impression for first timers to linux. Partly this is a reflection on goofy Utah where family activities like kid's face painting need to take precedence over technical AV prowness just to attract attendees. Contrast this to OSCON where I was told that every presentation setup had Ubuntu running so the audience kept seeing Ubuntu running on the big screen in from of them. So to anyone else running a FOSS/Fedora conference, try to have linux boxes (in this case Fedora) set up for all presenters. Or have some linux friendly LCD projectors that speakers, who need to use their own laptops, can use and set up ahead of time in the speaker room. It's great free PR to show Fedora/Linux running on all the presentations and it reinforces to the audience that Linux is ready for the desktop and can be counted on. It's one thing to hand out media, it's even more effective to show it being used. From stickster at gmail.com Fri Sep 5 22:20:24 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:20:24 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] UTOSC 2008 Report In-Reply-To: <48C1B839.6090604@plandecsys.com> References: <48C1B839.6090604@plandecsys.com> Message-ID: <1220653224.15437.185.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 16:52 -0600, John Taber wrote: > David Nalley wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Clint Savage wrote: > > > >> Well, I know FUDCon Brno is going on right now, I hope everyone is > >> having fun over there. But I thought I'd better get this going before > >> I head out on the road again for a bunch of weeks. > >> > >> I've been a bit busy cleaning up after UTOSC 2008, but now that I'm > >> back in the swing of things, there were several blog posts. A couple > >> were by me and a few by others to help give an overview of the > >> conference and its goings on. Here's a quick list: > >> > >> A couple from me: > >> http://fedoratutorials.com/2008/08/29/utosc-2008-day-1/ > >> http://fedoratutorials.com/2008/08/30/utosc-2008-day-2/ > >> > >> A couple from Paul: > >> http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1147 > >> http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1143 > >> > >> >From others, possibly related to Fedora: > >> http://www.fozzilinymoo.org/Fozzolog/2008/08/utosc-day-1.html > >> http://testopia.blogspot.com/2008/09/utosc-2008.html > >> http://pyrous.net/blog/?p=14 > >> http://blog.endpoint.com/2008/08/camps-presentation-at-utosc-2008.html > >> > >> We also have tons of pictures up on our flickr page: > >> > >> http://flickr.com/groups/utosc/pool/ > >> > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > >> > > > > Wow- sounds like a great event. > > A few questions for you: > > > > How many people were at the conference? > > How much media was handed out? > > How many contributors did you garner (I know of at least one)? > > Any questions I should have asked but didn't? > > > > There was a lot of good, hard work (especially on Clint's part) that > went into UTOS and overall I would have to say it was a success. But > there was a huge blown opportunity - there were no Fedora (or even any > Linux) boxes set up to work with the LCD projectors. Instead every > presenter had to scramble to get their laptops working to present. In > many cases it meant delayed presentations, a poor impression of linux, > or the use of Mac or Windows. In the room my talk was in, I watched a > prior presenter struggle to get his linux presentation working and > finally settling for 640x480. To get a decent resolution, I had to > borrow a Macbook Pro, running OSX (and even then I couldn't show or use > the bottom status bar during demos). And on keynote night, there was a > bunch of sighs and comments around where I was sitting during the time > Paul struggled and was delayed getting his keynote presentation running > with Fedora. Yeah, I wasn't happy about that either, but it was unforeseen. My laptop has worked with every other projector I've tried in the six months I've had it -- maybe a dozen or so total. Part of the problem was no one was familiar with how to get the projector to auto-adjust. In the end, I would hope that people realize other O/S's (and indeed other Linuxes) have exactly the same problems and this doesn't make Fedora special or worse, but I have no control over what people choose to take away in that regard. > In short - not a very good linux or Fedora impression for > first timers to linux. Partly this is a reflection on goofy Utah where > family activities like kid's face painting need to take precedence over > technical AV prowness just to attract attendees. Contrast this to > OSCON where I was told that every presentation setup had Ubuntu running > so the audience kept seeing Ubuntu running on the big screen in from of > them. I don't get the "goofy" comment -- I thought this was rather endearing and, speaking as a family man myself, it made the event kind of special for me. I do agree that simply having laptops running and having the presenters bring a USB stick up to the podium (for example) would have been better, but hindsight's 20/20 and I'm sure next year will see improvements, just as this year's UTOSC was undoubtedly even better than last year's. > So to anyone else running a FOSS/Fedora conference, try to have linux > boxes (in this case Fedora) set up for all presenters. Or have some > linux friendly LCD projectors that speakers, who need to use their own > laptops, can use and set up ahead of time in the speaker room. It's > great free PR to show Fedora/Linux running on all the presentations and > it reinforces to the audience that Linux is ready for the desktop and > can be counted on. It's one thing to hand out media, it's even more > effective to show it being used. Well, to be fair, we *did* show it being used at our booth, and in the hands of various presenters (not just me). And by the way, my laptop worked just fine with the projectors in both my other sessions, it's just the keynote projector that had a problem. ;-) We also showed Fedora running on OLPC XO's which is something no one else claimed. We should keep in mind that UTOSC was a "non-denominational" show, not Fedora-specific. We had plenty of Ubuntu, OpenSuSE, Debian, Slackware, Gentoo, and Fedora users around -- and we all got along famously AFAIK. So it's very likely that you would see different Linuxes around at different rooms, not one distro to rule them all. However, I would encourage you to think about setting up a Fedora BoF at next year's UTOSC, or some other similar conference, to increase Fedora's visibility! -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From chicagonpg at gmail.com Sat Sep 6 06:19:57 2008 From: chicagonpg at gmail.com (chicagonpg) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 01:19:57 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hello all Message-ID: My name is Shaun Mallette and I have been using Fedora since Fedora 5, I started using open source three years ago. I have been into computers since 1992 but once I found out about linux and open source I never looked back to anything else. I'm a big supporter of linux and open source. I live in Portage, Indiana USA and I'm part of the local LUG lugin.org. 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URL: From tushar.neupaney at gmail.com Sat Sep 6 08:19:57 2008 From: tushar.neupaney at gmail.com (Tushar Neupaney) Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:04:57 +0545 Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD In-Reply-To: References: <702a203e0809050017l29b82cfuef12da2808f336bf@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0809050329p3233673emc5cd78be80a5d7d0@mail.gmail.com> <1220611085.2462.18.camel@frank-01> <93655eb70809050424q30708c38r773c49ec9bea28f8@mail.gmail.com> <56264.VwBUX1dRCno=.1220616818.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <1220618196.2462.26.camel@frank-01> <24233aca0809050556o7d726fe7kd6db5bd784fbf42a@mail.gmail.com> <24233aca0809050649q3592328ax2082d823f2b56335@mail.gmail.com> <539333cb0809050825x6a57e97fufa7710e15af5c584@mail.gmail.com> <93655eb70809050940v37bddc48s90d8c888d32cdf3c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1220689197.6880.8.camel@tushar-laptop> I hope we must have local contacts registered somewhere. So that people don't have to move in the darkness. And Is there something Fedora Admin Team doing? I can provide DVD and CDs to people who need them, but I might run out of them if so much need is there! We must come up with a more precise and long lasting solution. All local level fedora and Linux user groups around the globe must unite and register them somewhere as support system for fedora. We can then spread the word brilliantly. I don't know but I guess this will be great. Tushar On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 13:04 -0400, David Ramsey wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > Greetings. :) > > Seems like a renewal of interest to support India, fantastic! :) > > At this url, > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreeMedia > > there is a Fedora Free Media Contributors link for > > "... > * Join the program to become Fedora Free Media Contributors > ..." > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/Contributors > > As an idea to get to the users, join the Contributors and help that Distribution team. ;) > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreeMedia#Fedora_Free_Media_Program_India > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India > > Please have a good day and a wonderful weekend! :~) > > Thank You > Sincerely > =-=-=-=-= > - David - > =-=-=-=-= > David Ramsey > ________________________________ > From: avinashsingh_87 at hotmail.com > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Subject: RE: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD > Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 22:15:59 +0530 > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > Here in India's Uttar Pradesh if anybody want CD/DVD of fedora from my city that is Kanpur then contact me. > > > > > > Avinash Singh [http://graphics.hotmail.com/i.p.emgift.gif] > > > > Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 22:10:04 +0530 > > From: eerpini at gmail.com > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD > > > > yes guys , its a great initiative , ..... > > ideas like this might help us remove the one disadvantage we have when > > compared to utnubu ( or so people believe ) , that we can't provide > > free media as good as they do ( good in the sense the time and > > availability of delivery ) , .... > > > > but all these activities need to be more centralised , they can be > > regionalised but have to be under a central authority ( for > > credibility issues ) , ... and are extremely useful in countries like > > india ........ > > > > as far as my knowledge goes , Fedora is greatly popular in india > > because it comes in a DVD( DVD is the most popular one ) which has > > everything you would ever need ! > > > > please do correct me if i am wrong , .... > > > > Satish > > > > On 9/5/08, subhodip biswas wrote: > >> hi ! > >> > >> Since we cannot handle over a limited number of request per month .but > >> quest for dvd is still there . > >> > >> I feel what vlug guys have done is a good inititiative . if this can > >> be done in regional basis on all countries having bandwidth problem > >> and if we integrate them to freemedia program , i guess we can cover > >> more request in a whole lot organised way . > >> > >> My personal experience : > >> http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/sending-a-freemedia-dvd/ > >> > >> If somebody has solution why not try implementing it . > >> > >> just a thought tho . > >> > >> -- > >> Regards > >> Subhodip Biswas > >> > >> GPG key : FAEA34AB > >> Server : pgp.mit.edu > >> http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com > >> http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas > >> > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > > > > > > -- > > http://satish.playdrupal.com > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > ________________________________ > Voice your opinion on the burning issues of the day. Discuss, debate with the world. Logon to message boards on MSN. Try it! > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From tushar.neupaney at gmail.com Sat Sep 6 08:27:38 2008 From: tushar.neupaney at gmail.com (Tushar Neupaney) Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:12:38 +0545 Subject: [Ambassadors] Submit your request for Free Fedora DVD In-Reply-To: <24233aca0809042155nfe02119xfd4413be7b1d6c33@mail.gmail.com> References: <24233aca0809042155nfe02119xfd4413be7b1d6c33@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1220689658.6880.14.camel@tushar-laptop> hi guys, Keep up the good work. I think we have to work in coordination. Yourself, our team in Nepal and (For lager prospective) people around the globe. Tushar On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 10:25 +0530, ElectroMech wrote: > We request you all to submit the request for Free DVD of Fedora 9 to > following website. > > This is just for our record. > > So we can submit monthly report to fedora How many DVD requested and > supplied. > > > http://www.vglug.info/get-fedora-dvd > > Give your feed back. > -- > > -- > Nilesh Vaghela > ElectroMech > Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner > 16, Sun Rise complex, > Nr. Mansi cross Road, > Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad > 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. > www.electromech.info > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There's no admin team label per say, but there is a marketing group. Maybe contact there, and give them your ideas, concerns irc.freenode.net #fedora-mktg or the marketing mailing-list http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > I can provide DVD and CDs to people who need them, > but I might run out of them if so much need is there! Theres a whole group of volunteers that can help, only do what you can.. > > We must come up with a more precise and long lasting solution. > All local level fedora and Linux user groups around the globe must > unite and register them > somewhere as support system for fedora. Fedora is not in competition with any other distro, different strokes for different folks. Apologies for correct netiquette Frank -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From juasmas at juasmas.net Sat Sep 6 10:35:35 2008 From: juasmas at juasmas.net (Juan Victoria) Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:35:35 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hello all In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1220697335.3759.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Welcome Shaun! And good luck for you can get the Red Hat Certificate soon! > My name is Shaun Mallette and I have been using Fedora since Fedora 5, > I started using open source three years ago. I have been into > computers since 1992 but once I found out about linux and open source > I never looked back to anything else. I'm a big supporter of linux and > open source. I live in Portage, Indiana USA and I'm part of the local > LUG lugin.org. I'm part of FWN and trying to learn how to help with > that also.I'm current enrolled in a linux/unix certification program > and hope one day to get certififed for Red Hat. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From mspevack at redhat.com Sat Sep 6 10:53:52 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 12:53:52 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] fudcon brno reports Message-ID: There are a *huge* number of FUDCon Brno reports that are consistently appearing on different blogs on Planet Fedora. Rather than paste all the links in here, I'll just ask people to go read Planet. It's a great event, so far. From andreypadiy at googlemail.com Sat Sep 6 12:00:49 2008 From: andreypadiy at googlemail.com (Andrey Padiy) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 13:00:49 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Greetings from new member Message-ID: <500fc4cf0809060500t71f9b514h90e68adc3f88f99f@mail.gmail.com> Hi, My name is Andriy. I started using Linux a few years ago and played with different distros eventually falling in love with Fedora. I work as an IT support officer and have some programming background. Currently based in London, UK but was born in Ukraine (Chernihiv). I would like to represent Linux in region of Ukraine where I come from and get Involved in translation. I set up a group (http://vkontakte.ru/club4453181) in Russian facebook (used by former USSR countries ) http://vkontakte.ru and translated http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/TalkingPoints page in to Ukrainian. Also I have created a simple how to in Ukrainian to help those that wish to try Fedora. Internet is growing fast in Ukraine and I believe its the right time to make people aware of Fedora. I ve started inviting local students and young people to join the group. Also I will start getting involved in Localization project from next week. If anyone needs help please do not hesitate to contact me. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hyperbole -- Best Regards -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lucas at cefetce.br Sat Sep 6 13:53:50 2008 From: lucas at cefetce.br (Lucas - Linux Sys. Admin (CEFETCE/UAB)) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 10:53:50 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Greetings from new member In-Reply-To: <500fc4cf0809060500t71f9b514h90e68adc3f88f99f@mail.gmail.com> References: <500fc4cf0809060500t71f9b514h90e68adc3f88f99f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: welcome aboard, and we look foward to see your work being done fine! :) 2008/9/6 Andrey Padiy > Hi, > > My name is Andriy. I started using Linux a few years ago and played with > different distros eventually falling in love with Fedora. I work as an IT > support officer and have some programming background. > Currently based in London, UK but was born in Ukraine (Chernihiv). I would > like to represent Linux in region of Ukraine where I come from and get > Involved in translation. > > I set up a group (http://vkontakte.ru/club4453181) in Russian facebook > (used by former USSR countries ) http://vkontakte.ru > > and translated http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/TalkingPoints page > in to Ukrainian. > > Also I have created a simple how to in Ukrainian to help those that wish to > try Fedora. > > Internet is growing fast in Ukraine and I believe its the right time to > make people aware of Fedora. > I ve started inviting local students and young people to join the group. > Also I will start getting involved in Localization project from next week. > If anyone needs help please do not hesitate to contact me. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hyperbole > > -- > Best Regards > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. > > :::: CONTRIBUA COM O MEIO AMBIENTE. N?O IMPRIMA ESTA MENSAGEM ::::: > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- -- Atenciosamente, Lucas do Amaral Saboya CEFET-CE - UAB-CE. Linux System Administrator Fedora Ambassador & Fedora Translator -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 6 14:59:56 2008 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:59:56 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] fudcon brno reports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1220713196.28837.0.camel@redhat> On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 12:53 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > There are a *huge* number of FUDCon Brno reports that are consistently > appearing on different blogs on Planet Fedora. Rather than paste all > the links in here, I'll just ask people to go read Planet. It's a great > event, so far. +1 Cheers, Pawel From nehal.dattani at gmail.com Sat Sep 6 18:59:07 2008 From: nehal.dattani at gmail.com (nehal dattani) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 00:29:07 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Greetings from new member In-Reply-To: References: <500fc4cf0809060500t71f9b514h90e68adc3f88f99f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <702a203e0809061159i1105313fsb2d35a99435ec1c5@mail.gmail.com> Welcome... 2008/9/6 Lucas - Linux Sys. Admin (CEFETCE/UAB) > welcome aboard, and we look foward to see your work being done fine! :) > > 2008/9/6 Andrey Padiy > >> Hi, >> >> My name is Andriy. I started using Linux a few years ago and played with >> different distros eventually falling in love with Fedora. I work as an IT >> support officer and have some programming background. >> Currently based in London, UK but was born in Ukraine (Chernihiv). I would >> like to represent Linux in region of Ukraine where I come from and get >> Involved in translation. >> >> I set up a group (http://vkontakte.ru/club4453181) in Russian facebook >> (used by former USSR countries ) http://vkontakte.ru >> >> and translated http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/TalkingPoints page >> in to Ukrainian. >> >> Also I have created a simple how to in Ukrainian to help those that wish >> to try Fedora. >> >> Internet is growing fast in Ukraine and I believe its the right time to >> make people aware of Fedora. >> I ve started inviting local students and young people to join the group. >> Also I will start getting involved in Localization project from next week. >> If anyone needs help please do not hesitate to contact me. >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hyperbole >> >> -- >> Best Regards >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is >> >> believed to be clean. >> >> :::: CONTRIBUA COM O MEIO AMBIENTE. 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URL: From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sun Sep 7 04:30:59 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 10:00:59 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting log. 09-07-2008 Message-ID: MagieAntonio SusmitShannigrahi shambo EngelsAntonio DipanjanChakraborty Rishikesh RishikeshSharma btoogood btoogood, your wiki name please (FirstnameLastname) BrendonToogood what do we have on agenda? t-shirts apac polo shirt ok upcoming events for q4 chinese forum support we were talking about the design and price any chinese member here? the design can be "outsourced" to art team are you aware of the service? yes yes does the price depend on the design? or is there a fixd one? rarely, when you produce in bulk, its fixed i reckon a fixed price myself how much is it around? and can we customize it for our region/ !! dipanjanc, +1 Its about 25 euro as because of different currencies around apac if people are going to order in bulk just a thought dipanjanc, +1 shambo, too high a price, we produced some in ~INR250 :) 25 euro is around how much in INR? approx $54 NZD 1592 inr very conservative estimate, excluding shipping, ~10USD * Subhodip has quit (No route to host) but the question is 1592 INR is too high yea who is going to produce them and how to ship it ? i think 10 euro is better can we take susmit's suggestion of INR 250? we will contact famsco for this * Subhodip (n=subhodip at 117.201.96.141) has joined #fedora-meeting Initially, it will involve a lot of money rishikesh, that's fine becasue all the financial matter require to contact famsco if we want to customize it, who's doing the design? they are unlikely to provide support for something non-event they have already done for the european ambassadors ok i have just had a thought, now dont bite me, but why not get the design done and the ambassadors get them printed for there regions, according to colour of the polo as different countries different prices for printing, just a thought i guess it was for fudcon EMEA has done that..my friend shambo shandflm SMParrish sm|CPU Sonar_Gal Sonar_Guy sonar_logger3 spevack spot spstarr_work stickster StillBob Subhodip susmit and yes, Subhodip is right so, what's the solution? we must calculate the oder no first as with that pricing will vary .i.e if we are ordering getting a polo shirt printed will be expensive Subhodip, not much ~10USD for that quatity, we need to put up the wiki for polo shirt request for that quantity, we need to put up the wiki for polo shirt request it's around 7 us dollars in the philippines so what about normal tees ..then btoogood's suggestion can be done magie, nice :) Subhodip, we have two things one production cost, and another shipping cost normal t-shirts go for 4.3 us dollars btoogood's suggestion of getting the design done and printing it locally is good. is it not? lets fix one thing first yes if we have a specific design and if we print them locally as per btoogood then shipping cost is not needed i guess first thing is, lets approach art team for a cooool design. it should be polo shirt or t-shirt :) to me i think polo shirt is better than th-shirt +1 whichever is more economic :) 'casue in any event, polo shirt is better tee shirt rishikesh, me, me , me too... tee shirt is better in summer t-shirt is very casual not so formal we mostly have summer in India eh .. i am wearing fedora tee now ..its not casual what others say? 'cause we represent fedora casual is not a factor. I think Get Fedora skirts so you stand out in the crowd... what we do is what fedora is * EvilBob runs whatever is good will do EvilBob, lol * susmit runs afet EvilBob after tees will be better +1 for tees so what about if we have a design and let the ambassador print on what he wan t so representing fedora on people event by wearing t-shirt is not a good idea to me want +1 for tees hold on for a second what about girls? rishikesh, you are getting it wrong girls wear t-shirts don't they? but the _same_ t-shirt? they do here susmit, yes they do wear the same t-shirts. * mdomsch (n=mdomsch at cpe-70-124-62-55.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #fedora-meeting I have no problem, but why not ask the girls? uni-sex tees But, incase they are reluctant, we must think of an alternative if being formal is the case full sleeve shirts is a better option I am not much conversant about ladies-wears lets post this idea on list..and ask for "criticism" :) ok +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 :) * btoogood just asked my wife she thinks tees will differ from country to country and? we are waiting with our finger crossed :D fedora is the voice of people, so lets put up on wiki for vote have we finalised for the men? or do we vote for it? lets take a vote lets discuss it on the list first...then we 'll have a vote * Subhodip thinks normal tee is better .. but not the white one ..if printed on black/blue ..its great if we go for a vote, we must also mention the estimated price against each option about the costing : we should select a nation where cost of printing and cost of tees/polos will be low +1 for blue and shipping withn APAC we should go for fedora colour shipping will be less than that of US considering APAC is a huge region, why don't we produce it two or three countries.. first get the artwork done .. then we can have it printed in our respective countries but lets not get into details first Subhodip, right then what about the idea of printing it locally? why bother about shipping right now subhodip +1 dipanjanc, hold on Lets define the tasks ok ok ok 1. Post to the list asking for suggestions ok 2. Request the art team along with Ideas 3. Decide whether it will be a t-shirt or whatever 4. Who is going to produce and store and ship 5. How many? EOF ok +1 +1 done anything anyone want to add? lets do this onefirst can we also list the estimated price when we decide? good idea good idea yes we can which point does this add to? 6.? dipanjanc, why don't you put up a wiki page on the same? i think we should consider both pricing of tees and polos ok. I will do it. And let you know thanks ok so may we move? it will help in price comparison and better decision making thats the end of discussion for shirts yes what's next? now lets move forward for the events yip lets yes anyone from china? i think we should go for a event in which all regions members can meet with I guess no...so no point discussing agenda 2 each other ambassadors we are from different countries susmit, link to agenda 2 please Subhodip, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-07 agenda 3 i think chinese people are not avaibale on the meeting susmit, thanks q4 events yes yea i have too a event on december 7 ! magie, please go on OT: we have an upcoming event on Sept 20, Q3 before we talk about Q4 oops...the budget for Q3 is closed. But please go on funding was allocated for apac c/o Harish Pillay oh, its listed ok SFD>' ? software freedom day http://bluepoint.com.ph/sfd08/ just want to ask how we go about getting help/funds if anyone has done it before if you have an event, you need to enlist the event before that quarter's budget is closed yes we've done that, what's next? the guidelines is also avaibale on the wiki if famsco approve that, you will get funded budget is approved but how do we get the fund? on december 7, 2008 i have Fedora 10 Realease party and install fest at Imphal,Manipur this is the first fedora event in my region I am not sure, probably you receive the fund after the event, I was so told...anyone from FamsCo here? magie, maybe we can just coordinate with famsco or harish about your inquiry magie, anything else? I think we can move on ok rishikesh, have you enlisted your event? it's ok, I think rishikesh is excited about his event :) yea you can check on the wiki have you estimated expense and mailed famsco? i would like to proposed an event in which apac ambassadors can meet with each other nope do that rishikesh, do one thing at a time that would be good but very expensive though going from one country to another ok btoogood, +1 btoogood, +1 +1 rishikesh, why do you think meeting in person is very necessary? btoogood, +1 +1 we are meetin here do i need to explain all the detail expenses while submitting as minutely as possible ok ok Subhodip, can you have one such event? may be at your place? or nit dgp? I meant release event... susmit we have a event on 20 sept shambo, just a second please i need to talk to people in my college * stickster is now known as stickster_afk do it please ok yes. that will be great dipanjanc, you can do that too at your lug? susmit: what about your place? yes I can. I suppose go on and organise shambo, please will need some details about how it's done susmit we have a event on 20 sept dipanjanc, mail me offlist ok is it listed ? * makghosh (n=Joy at 117.201.96.28) has joined #fedora-meeting check out http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents which one? * warren (n=warren at redhat/wombat/warren) has joined #fedora-meeting owner A. Mani oh..ok SFD yes do you need any assistance? not money http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Budget does not show your event yes can i attend it . im not an ambassador of course ok can anyone give me the venue in Kolkata for this? where is the event in kolkata no details is given but that depends on the organisers, within fedora, if you are not an Ambassador its not a problem.. but why don't be one? no offence ...aren't we deviating from agenda ..we are still stuck with Q3 .. Subhodip, and its the last one :D but yes, shambo mail Mani A. anyone else? ok anything more anyone want to discuss? 5 yes rishikesh, what are resources i can avail for my event what do you need? my event is fedora 10 release and i need fedora 10 dvd media it is not released now if you receive money, you need to take care of all those things from your budget but when it is released please search the wiki there is a alpha release when submiting budget can i include all the requirements iam going for a final release not alpha like blank dvd cost estimate..for example....for producing 100 media I need 100*9=900 INR for media and 100*1 =100 INR for stickers..So 1000INR for media and so on... projector hiring cost stickers? cd labels true rishikesh, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/Organization go through it. anything more? ok 5 4 3 2 -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Sun Sep 7 11:04:54 2008 From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 17:04:54 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting. In-Reply-To: <928156be0809062020m1fff554cr3b1056a0b827e7f6@mail.gmail.com> References: <1219900625.2633.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <8990327d0808280735k6e5dec1fqcd157ed5f331f1a0@mail.gmail.com> <78323d480808280803v604c0244udc5a17e4974e4ba4@mail.gmail.com> <1219945468.2614.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <928156be0808281803h457a8ab7i56add6e08c57b4a5@mail.gmail.com> <293d1f710809010005u78dd0367w7e68ce4a7a481c71@mail.gmail.com> <928156be0809062020m1fff554cr3b1056a0b827e7f6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Sorry, I was sick and still feeling unwell. Couldn't attend the meeting. Specaily sorry to Susmit. -- Regards Mahay Alam Khan gpg key: 4FDD30FB Fedora Ambassador Bangladesh ================================= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(It remains to be seen how much time I will find for this... although I think with every customer I already did a lot... and i'll continue doing it...) I would also like to get involved in: Distribution, Internationalization (L10n & i18n), Marketing and probably News and Translation. I'm very sure I will add value to the Fedora Ambassadors Project and I'm convinced that results will be noticeable... Gabriel PREDA -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Certified MySQL Associate Certified Zend Engineer Senior Web Developer -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Sun Sep 7 12:27:31 2008 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 14:27:31 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] fudcon brno reports In-Reply-To: <1220713196.28837.0.camel@redhat> References: <1220713196.28837.0.camel@redhat> Message-ID: <46935.AFRSXQxVW3Y=.1220790451.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> > On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 12:53 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: >> There are a *huge* number of FUDCon Brno reports that are consistently >> appearing on different blogs on Planet Fedora. Rather than paste all >> the links in here, I'll just ask people to go read Planet. It's a great >> event, so far. I'd love to. Unfortunately, the articles on the planet are only accessible for limited amount of time, and it's not possible to browse more than one page (older articles). So basically, if you can't read the planet each and every day, you can't read those reports (as well as all the other useful contents that appear there). Will there be an official report somewhere on the wiki ? Regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin From gvarisco at redhat.com Sun Sep 7 12:39:28 2008 From: gvarisco at redhat.com (Gianluca Varisco) Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:39:28 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] fudcon brno reports In-Reply-To: <46935.AFRSXQxVW3Y=.1220790451.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> References: <1220713196.28837.0.camel@redhat> <46935.AFRSXQxVW3Y=.1220790451.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: <48C3CB80.8050906@redhat.com> Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: >> On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 12:53 +0200, Max Spevack wrote: >>> There are a *huge* number of FUDCon Brno reports that are consistently >>> appearing on different blogs on Planet Fedora. Rather than paste all >>> the links in here, I'll just ask people to go read Planet. It's a great >>> event, so far. > I'd love to. Unfortunately, the articles on the planet are only accessible > for limited amount of time, and it's not possible to browse more than one > page (older articles). > > So basically, if you can't read the planet each and every day, you can't > read those reports (as well as all the other useful contents that appear > there). > > Will there be an official report somewhere on the wiki ? > Mathieu, We will collect all the posts related to FUDCon in the official FUDConBrno wiki page. Best Regards, -- Gianluca Varisco, RHCE Intern - Web Engineering, Red Hat Italia From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sun Sep 7 13:01:48 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 18:31:48 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting. In-Reply-To: References: <8990327d0808280735k6e5dec1fqcd157ed5f331f1a0@mail.gmail.com> <78323d480808280803v604c0244udc5a17e4974e4ba4@mail.gmail.com> <1219945468.2614.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <928156be0808281803h457a8ab7i56add6e08c57b4a5@mail.gmail.com> <293d1f710809010005u78dd0367w7e68ce4a7a481c71@mail.gmail.com> <928156be0809062020m1fff554cr3b1056a0b827e7f6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/7 mak > > Sorry, I was sick and still feeling unwell. Couldn't attend the meeting. > Specaily sorry to Susmit. > WHY? No point being sorry over illness :) -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From gvarisco at redhat.com Sun Sep 7 13:25:18 2008 From: gvarisco at redhat.com (Gianluca Varisco) Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:25:18 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] fudcon brno reports In-Reply-To: <46935.AFRSXQxVW3Y=.1220790451.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> References: <1220713196.28837.0.camel@redhat> <46935.AFRSXQxVW3Y=.1220790451.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: <48C3D63E.3050701@redhat.com> Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: > I'd love to. Unfortunately, the articles on the planet are only accessible > for limited amount of time, and it's not possible to browse more than one > page (older articles). > > So basically, if you can't read the planet each and every day, you can't > read those reports (as well as all the other useful contents that appear > there). > > Will there be an official report somewhere on the wiki ? > > Regards, > Mathieu, I started to adding a bunch of FUDCon-related showed up in the planet on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConBrno2008#Event_Reports Is it a better way to collect them? Let me know. Cheers, -- Gianluca Varisco, RHCE Intern - Web Engineering, Red Hat Italia From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Sun Sep 7 13:36:44 2008 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 15:36:44 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] fudcon brno reports In-Reply-To: <48C3D63E.3050701@redhat.com> References: <1220713196.28837.0.camel@redhat> <46935.AFRSXQxVW3Y=.1220790451.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <48C3D63E.3050701@redhat.com> Message-ID: <38662.AFRSXQxVW3Y=.1220794604.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> > Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: >> I'd love to. Unfortunately, the articles on the planet are only >> accessible >> for limited amount of time, and it's not possible to browse more than >> one >> page (older articles). >> >> So basically, if you can't read the planet each and every day, you can't >> read those reports (as well as all the other useful contents that appear >> there). >> >> Will there be an official report somewhere on the wiki ? >> >> Regards, >> > > Mathieu, > > I started to adding a bunch of FUDCon-related showed up in the planet on > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConBrno2008#Event_Reports > Thanks for that :) However, my remark was more a general rant about the planet and the fact that it's impossible to go back in time to read older articles. FUDCON reporting was just a perfect example. Anyway, I'll go and read those links, thanks again for assembling everything. Regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin From lucas at cefetce.br Sun Sep 7 13:48:38 2008 From: lucas at cefetce.br (Lucas - Linux Sys. Admin (CEFETCE/UAB)) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 10:48:38 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hello everyone In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: wellcome aboard pal :) 2008/9/6 Junior Tomazelli > welcome Gaurav. > > -- > Wolnei C?ndido Tomazelli Junior (Charged) > Brazil Fedora Ambassador > Designer and TI > E-mail : linux.charged at gmail.com > Linux User #477062 > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. > > :::: CONTRIBUA COM O MEIO AMBIENTE. 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Mani > oh..ok > SFD > yes > do you need any assistance? > not money > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Budget > does not show your event > yes can i attend it . im not an ambassador > of course > ok > can anyone give me the venue in Kolkata for this? > where is the event in kolkata no details is given > but that depends on the organisers, within fedora, if you are > not an Ambassador its not a problem.. > but why don't be one? > no offence ...aren't we deviating from agenda ..we are > still stuck with Q3 .. > Subhodip, and its the last one :D > but yes, shambo mail Mani A. > anyone else? > ok ----------------------- The Kolkata team's SFD page is http://softwarefreedomday.org/teams/asiaandmiddleeast/india/ILUG-CALINFO The event will be at DPS ( NAM Complex, New Alipore), unless we have too many participants. I will update the Fedora page soon. For the event we will be having media from Ubuntu, Fedora and possibly OpenSuse. A problem is we have very limited 64-bit media and plenty of 32-bit media. Of course, everybody is welcome to join us. Best A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc From inode0 at gmail.com Mon Sep 8 05:33:34 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 00:33:34 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassadors Meeting 2008-09-03 Meeting Summary Message-ID: David Nalley led the meeting. * News from FAmSCo - Jeffrey Tadlock, work on budget and is keeping FAmSCo updated on what NA ambassadors are up to. * Current status of tasks + Event Boxes: Report on container investigation and the prospect of being able to include a notebook and/or an XO resulted in quite a bit of discussion including reconsidering Event Box contents and how to resupply them if they include consumable items (i.e., swag). + Media: Final price quote of $0.576 each for 3000 pieces including media, printing, sleeves. While this is a fantastic price some are concerned about media not being a line item in the budget when it consumes so much of the quarterly budget and might exceed the volume necessary for the quarter. + FAD: some blogs appeared this week, more expected. // Very nice education discussion about how Fedora ambassadors might // approach typical High Schools spun off with ianweller and ricky which // was followed by another discussion of more general education issues // mostly affecting Colleges and Universities with ctyler and themayor. + Desire was expressed to finish up work on wiki page for what NA Fedora ambassadors are expected to do (musts/shoulds/coulds) so that it can get out of draft status. + Polos: second round of polo shirts for NA ambassadors will go out next week. We can't thank pcalarco enough for his work on these. I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight. From inode0 at gmail.com Mon Sep 8 05:35:39 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 00:35:39 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassadors Meeting 2008-09-03 IRC Log Message-ID: (08:01:01 PM) ke4qqq: time to start, roll call (08:01:12 PM) pcalarco: PascalCalarco (08:01:30 PM) iWolf: JeffreyTadlock (08:01:49 PM) ***DemonJester here (08:02:05 PM) quaid: [[User:Kwade|Karsten Wade]] ;-P (08:02:25 PM) DemonJester: BrianPowell, sorry.... (08:02:37 PM) ke4qqq: don't know if that works within pre tags, does it? (08:03:30 PM) ke4qqq: alright - I suppose others will filter in as we progress - iWolf anything to report from FAmSCo? (08:04:02 PM) iWolf: We did meet last week. Pretty much covered the budget which is posted to the ambassadors list. (08:04:16 PM) iWolf: talked a little bit about the various regions and what they are up to. (08:04:25 PM) iWolf: nothing earth shattering. (08:05:03 PM) ke4qqq: ok any feedback on our "plan" for media? (08:05:35 PM) iWolf: it should be a go - seems like we are seeing how this release goes with the regions handling it. if its a success, we'll stick with it. (08:06:08 PM) ke4qqq: ok - well talk more about media shortly.... (08:06:25 PM) ke4qqq: suppose it's now time for the task list - (08:07:03 PM) ke4qqq: unless someone has an objection I think I'll put the "Contacting" one to bed. (08:07:20 PM) ke4qqq: herlo: available to talk about Ambkit and evbox? (08:07:28 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: sure (08:09:47 PM) ***ke4qqq waits (08:10:19 PM) ***DemonJester hears crickets and bullfrogs ;-) (08:10:37 PM) inode0: chirp (08:10:45 PM) DemonJester: lol (08:11:32 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: what would you like to discuss? (08:11:40 PM) ke4qqq: ambassador kit and eventbox (08:11:44 PM) ke4qqq: and if there are any updates (08:11:48 PM) ***herlo was unsure that we were already starting :) (08:11:53 PM) herlo: sorry (08:12:09 PM) herlo: so here's the plan with eventbox (08:12:32 PM) herlo: I'm working right now to find a good shipping box. Once I find something that can hold the following: (08:13:16 PM) herlo: Banners - 5 or 6 (2 fedora banners, 4 f's) (08:13:31 PM) herlo: the 5 is for the current ifv themee (08:13:40 PM) herlo: about 50-75 tshirts of all sizes (08:13:53 PM) herlo: 200-300 bits of Media (08:14:09 PM) herlo: maybe some hard signs for usb creation station (08:14:19 PM) herlo: stickers and usb sticks (08:14:44 PM) inode0: ! (08:14:48 PM) herlo: I've heard discussion of lcd screens though I don't feel that's necessary (08:14:55 PM) herlo: and 1 OLPC (08:14:59 PM) herlo: inode0: shoot (08:15:29 PM) inode0: we have requests pending with two Fedora sponsors for small laptops for usb creation stations (08:15:45 PM) inode0: I submitted a project proposal to OLPC this week (08:15:53 PM) ke4qqq: inode0: I have an update on dell when you are done (08:15:55 PM) inode0: for 1 XO per box (08:16:08 PM) herlo: inode0: like eeepc?? (08:16:13 PM) herlo: for the usbcreation? (08:16:16 PM) inode0: that moved from pending to approved but I honestly don't know what that means yet (08:16:38 PM) ke4qqq: outstanding!!! (08:16:56 PM) inode0: my inquiry was about HP mini-notes (08:17:03 PM) inode0: ke4qqq: fill us in (08:17:06 PM) herlo: inode0: okay, those'll work (08:17:31 PM) herlo: well, I still need to talk about ambkits, but its pretty simple (08:17:43 PM) herlo: however, I think the eventbox discussion hasn't concluded (08:17:46 PM) inode0: just a second please (08:17:48 PM) ke4qqq: I asked Matt Domsch @ dell for 4 of their new mini-inspirons as well - the current status is that no one has funding ie a no, but he said he is still scrounging around (08:17:56 PM) ke4qqq: go ahead herlo (08:18:07 PM) inode0: one more question about event boxes (08:18:12 PM) herlo: shoot (08:18:28 PM) inode0: if these are floating boxes how do we plan to replenish them? (08:18:49 PM) herlo: easy (08:18:57 PM) herlo: each time we ship them, we fill them (08:19:21 PM) inode0: I thought we ship them once and the recipient ships them to their next destination? (08:19:27 PM) herlo: so, I just bought 55 tshirts plus some pins and what not (08:19:37 PM) herlo: inode0: right (08:19:38 PM) herlo: but (08:19:46 PM) herlo: we gave away all our shirts (08:19:50 PM) herlo: save 15-20 (08:20:05 PM) herlo: I still have a few dollars left and about a month of time before the OLF comes (08:20:22 PM) herlo: I can have another 55 printed and shipped here or there, whichever is cheaper (08:20:32 PM) herlo: well, not another 55, but still some (08:21:00 PM) herlo: does this make sense? (08:21:04 PM) inode0: not really (08:21:31 PM) inode0: are the OLF people expected to refill the box out of their budget? (08:21:43 PM) herlo: inode0: to a point (08:21:49 PM) quaid: "whatever is leftover from the event + these standard items are shipped to the next event; the next event orders more $stuff to replenish based on incoming inventory." (08:22:10 PM) herlo: quaid: agreed, but I have a few extra dollars (08:22:26 PM) herlo: the other part is that if you have money left over, you should use it to replenish the box... (08:22:27 PM) iWolf: i think things will get confusing pretty quickly. (08:22:42 PM) herlo: so everyone hang on... (08:22:45 PM) iWolf: i would be more apt if i were herlo to contribute the extra money to the media fund to get us to the min. order. (08:22:57 PM) ke4qqq: +1 (08:23:00 PM) herlo: iWolf: not a bad idea (08:23:21 PM) herlo: here's the thing. Its like $100 over the shipping costs I'm about to incur. (08:23:29 PM) herlo: so I ship an empty box? (08:23:36 PM) herlo: I mean its not completely empty (08:23:49 PM) herlo: probably weighs about 5-7lbs right now (08:24:00 PM) herlo: iWolf loads it up with t's and such (08:24:06 PM) herlo: and gives them out (08:24:16 PM) herlo: then he sends it on again? (08:24:22 PM) herlo: is that what I'm hearing? (08:25:03 PM) iWolf: when i've thought event box, i've never included swag in the event box. (08:25:08 PM) herlo: I was just adding that, simply put, if you have a few extra dollars, add something. T's, stickers, whatever. (08:25:15 PM) iWolf: i've thought of it more as a "booth in a box". (08:25:33 PM) iWolf: as that booth bit is a lot of work that gets repeated that doesn't really need to get repeated. (08:25:34 PM) herlo: well, then we need to completely rethink whats currently inside (08:25:41 PM) inode0: I was thinking fixed stuff for the booth that never leaves our control, just goes from booth to booth (08:25:53 PM) inode0: but swag is a plus if it can be managed I think (08:25:54 PM) herlo: because the only thing currently in there is a banner or two and the ifv signs (08:26:05 PM) iWolf: if we ship large amounts of t's in the box we end up potentially paying shipping costs twice for the same t-shirts. (08:26:20 PM) herlo: iWolf: +1 (08:26:26 PM) herlo: but stickers/pins are light (08:27:03 PM) iWolf: yeah, and they would fit in easily. (08:27:18 PM) herlo: yep (08:27:22 PM) herlo: k, so revision then (08:27:25 PM) iWolf: and if I had a t-shirt or two left from an event and they fit, then sending them on would be fine. (08:27:34 PM) herlo: sure, that's what I'll be doing (08:27:38 PM) iWolf: just not sure I would make it a requirement to restock the box. (08:27:48 PM) herlo: not a requirement, just a suggestion (08:27:59 PM) herlo: but it sounds like refills are better with stickers or pins (08:28:46 PM) iWolf: yeah, light weight and easy to fit into the space available as the event box nears completion. (08:28:47 PM) herlo: so here's my new version of EventBox (08:28:55 PM) herlo: lets call it EventBox .02 (08:28:58 PM) herlo: :) (08:29:16 PM) herlo: Small Durable, Plastic Box (08:29:33 PM) herlo: probably 12x24x8 (08:29:38 PM) herlo: included inside (08:29:40 PM) herlo: Banners (08:29:46 PM) herlo: Network Cable (08:29:47 PM) ianweller_afk is now known as ianweller (08:29:49 PM) herlo: XO (08:30:01 PM) herlo: Mini USB Creation Station (possibly) (08:30:22 PM) herlo: Laminated Creation Station Sign (08:30:34 PM) herlo: Leftover SWAG (08:30:42 PM) herlo: EOB (08:30:44 PM) herlo: thoughts ?? (08:31:20 PM) ke4qqq: add a wap/router running free/oss firmware (08:31:24 PM) quaid: + wifi (08:31:35 PM) inode0: are there some other common needs? tape, table cloth, etc.? (08:31:56 PM) ke4qqq: ohhhh yeah - table cloth....gaffers tape.... (08:31:57 PM) iWolf: there used to be a fedora tablecloth, we had it at OLF last year - is it still around - it was quite nice. (08:32:04 PM) iWolf: and expensive. (08:32:10 PM) quaid: iWolf: "gone" I think (08:32:28 PM) herlo: me thinks so as well (08:32:37 PM) ***ke4qqq thinks so as well (08:32:40 PM) iWolf: quaid: that's unfortunate, i think Max bought that just before OLF as it was shpped straight to my house for OLF last year. (08:32:43 PM) herlo: I don't think you will need gaffers tape or tablecloths (08:32:49 PM) quaid: perhaps with the banner from FUDCon Boston 2008 (08:33:07 PM) quaid: +tape (08:33:10 PM) quaid: + pens, scissors (08:33:30 PM) quaid: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox#Suggested_contents_of_the_Event_Box (08:33:38 PM) quaid: +anything on that list not already mentioned (08:34:59 PM) herlo: pens, scissors, etc yes (08:35:09 PM) herlo: quaid: yes, I've been looking at that (08:35:15 PM) herlo: except I think its a bit over the top (08:35:30 PM) quaid: ha ha! (08:35:30 PM) inode0: actually could we perhaps make that list a signup sheet for contributors? (08:35:34 PM) quaid: well,I disagree :D (08:35:46 PM) quaid: that is, one could rely upon Ambassadors to supply tape, scissors, etc. (08:35:47 PM) inode0: I could kick in some of that easily (08:36:09 PM) quaid: inode0: right, add it when the box comes in (08:36:23 PM) quaid: herlo: but then it's not "event in a box" (08:36:26 PM) quaid: it (08:36:29 PM) herlo: lol (08:36:38 PM) quaid: it's "event in a box, just add water, scissors,tape..." (08:36:44 PM) herlo: last I checked, its not an 'Event in a box' (08:37:10 PM) herlo: its EventBox, used for major events or conferences that should already provide much of these things on the list (08:37:33 PM) herlo: we should plan for emergencies, yes. (08:37:45 PM) herlo: but we shouldn't bring things we can get at a local convenience store (08:37:53 PM) herlo: for $5-10 (08:38:21 PM) quaid: I've yet to be at an event that already provided anything more than a table and two chairs (08:38:32 PM) herlo: really? (08:38:35 PM) quaid: yep (08:38:36 PM) EvilBob: 5-10 becomes 25-50 really fast at a C store (08:38:36 PM) herlo: no power? (08:38:40 PM) quaid: ok, power (08:38:43 PM) quaid: sometimes ethernet (08:38:48 PM) quaid: carpet (08:38:55 PM) herlo: sure, I don't argue the need for wires (08:38:59 PM) herlo: as in cat5 (08:39:08 PM) herlo: but power should be there, and a basic booth (08:39:15 PM) iWolf: power strips should be included in the box though. (08:39:24 PM) quaid: herlo: so everyone should have a set of what? it seems cheaper to have a set in the middle, are you thinking of shipping weight? (08:39:33 PM) herlo: k, hold on again (08:39:35 PM) inode0: event at FUDcon Boston there was a mad scramble for an extension cord and power strip (08:39:38 PM) herlo: I'm talking scissors, tape, etc (08:39:45 PM) herlo: not power cords, ethernet cords (08:40:05 PM) herlo: sure we can have one set of scissors in there, but if they get lost, oh well... (08:40:06 PM) ***quaid has tried to open those stupid USB plastic wrappingdododders without scissors before, oy vey! (08:40:09 PM) iWolf: i'd include tape and scissors as well, the goal being make it as easy for an ambassador as posible. (08:40:44 PM) herlo: I guess what I'm not getting is why we need heavy duty extension cordes (08:40:54 PM) herlo: an lcd monitor seems excessive to me (08:41:12 PM) herlo: maybe a router, but most conferences have wireless (08:41:22 PM) iWolf: OLF doesn't. (08:41:25 PM) quaid: my experience is most often crappy wireless (08:41:27 PM) iWolf: no ethernet connection either. (08:41:35 PM) inode0: I'd say forget the monitor and shuttle, hope we get mini-notes or something similar (08:41:46 PM) herlo: wow! (08:41:47 PM) quaid: and there is a need for a local hub, why not $15 more for wireless? (08:41:53 PM) iWolf: and OLF says - there's an outlet, no power strip, no extention cord, noghtin. (08:42:00 PM) quaid: sure, notebooks have LCD so it's all one (08:42:12 PM) herlo: you mean to tell me there won't be internet at a large event of 1000+ people? (08:42:20 PM) iWolf: inode0: agreed, if we get the mini-notes that would be fine. (08:42:20 PM) quaid: OSCON, LWCE very similar (08:42:23 PM) herlo: that's amazing to me (08:42:26 PM) quaid: herlo: yes, and 1000+ people using it (08:42:29 PM) iWolf: herlo: nope. (08:42:30 PM) inode0: keyboard/mouse can go then too (08:42:43 PM) quaid: herlo: so at LWCE we got one drop for _all_ of the .org pavilion (08:42:47 PM) herlo: quaid: sure, we just had an event of 400+ no outages, slower than normal, but worked well (08:42:51 PM) inode0: I do think an extension cord and power strip are good to have (08:42:55 PM) quaid: fortunately Etherboot was there with tons of equipment (08:42:55 PM) herlo: quaid: well, okay (08:42:59 PM) iWolf: herlo: its held at a convention center, which means union folks have to "hook it up" which translates to around $1000+ to turn it on. (08:43:00 PM) quaid: so we could actually *run* stuff at the booth (08:43:01 PM) herlo: I guess I'll have to rethink that sort of thing (08:43:13 PM) quaid: iWolf: +1 yep, per drop (08:43:16 PM) ***herlo now hates unions :) (08:43:24 PM) herlo: okay, not really... (08:43:27 PM) quaid: eh, out of context :) (08:44:00 PM) herlo: okay, I'm convinced (08:44:02 PM) herlo: moving on (08:44:36 PM) herlo: I'll try to buy something that will fit most of this stuff then and get it shipped out late sept... (08:46:03 PM) ke4qqq: ok any movement on kit? (08:46:38 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: I've been running a conference for about 3 weeks (yes, it was only 3 days, but still busy) so nope sorry (08:46:41 PM) herlo: :( (08:46:49 PM) ***herlo wishes he was more capable... (08:46:50 PM) ke4qqq: no need to apologize (08:47:08 PM) ke4qqq: lets talk about media (08:47:10 PM) herlo: though I got a final price on media (08:47:16 PM) herlo: $.0576 (08:47:17 PM) ke4qqq: how awesome (08:47:18 PM) herlo: er (08:47:20 PM) herlo: .576 (08:47:28 PM) herlo: each, including printing (08:47:32 PM) herlo: sleeves and all (08:47:33 PM) ke4qqq: shipping? (08:47:43 PM) herlo: they're local to utah iirc (08:48:00 PM) inode0: lot size? (08:48:02 PM) ***herlo is looking for the email now (08:48:06 PM) herlo: 3k (08:48:07 PM) ke4qqq: will they do a single run of 3k? (08:48:10 PM) herlo: yes (08:49:25 PM) inode0: nice in the long run - consumes more than 1/3 of this quarter's budget (08:49:32 PM) herlo: yep, local (08:49:34 PM) ke4qqq: ok - so essentially our plan is to try and get money from all of the event runners in Q3 to piece together a single 3k order for x86 livecds (08:49:45 PM) herlo: right (08:49:47 PM) EvilBob: I used to use a place called niche stuff in California, not sure if they are still around, they were cheap back in the day (08:50:08 PM) EvilBob: And quality was great (08:50:40 PM) herlo: the guy I'm working with used to be a CD media broker and would go around to all the creation houses and get the best prices (08:50:45 PM) ke4qqq: so I am ready to fork over about 90% of my event's money for media - since I already have F9 media. (08:50:45 PM) herlo: he's worked with these guys before (08:51:21 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: right, do you need more? I can send some along in the event box. I think I still have about 200. I realistically only need 100 at most (08:51:22 PM) inode0: .576 seems a very good price (08:51:44 PM) herlo: 3000*.576 (08:51:45 PM) herlo: 1728.000 (08:51:52 PM) ***herlo loves bc (08:52:10 PM) ke4qqq: herlo: I am ok, but OLF will probably welcome them (08:52:24 PM) herlo: that's the total cost. I don't have much money left in my budget, but there's a few dollars for next quarter (08:52:37 PM) ke4qqq: Q3 started yesterday (08:52:44 PM) herlo: oh, right (08:52:48 PM) herlo: this quarter (08:54:16 PM) herlo: k, anything else? (08:54:37 PM) ke4qqq: nope (08:54:41 PM) ke4qqq: iWolf: FAD (08:56:20 PM) iWolf: I would out of town the last few days and have nothing to report. (08:56:39 PM) ***kulll wiggles (08:56:48 PM) ke4qqq: ok - we have several people who volunteered to write blog posts (08:56:53 PM) ke4qqq: 2 have stepped forward (08:57:03 PM) ianweller: blog posts about what? (08:57:04 PM) ke4qqq: I also have 2 who still remain for me to get on the planet (08:57:06 PM) ke4qqq: FAD (08:57:17 PM) ianweller: oic (08:57:36 PM) inode0: ! for ian (08:58:12 PM) inode0: would you be willing to share ideas on how Fedora might reach more high school students? (08:58:27 PM) inode0: are there particular things we might offer to do at/with high schools? (08:58:56 PM) ianweller: inode0: you're definitely going to want to try and find the high schools with the tech departments that aren't full of nitwits in bed with microsoft. (08:58:58 PM) ***herlo will blog about it soon (08:58:59 PM) ***inode0 doesn't mean to hijack conversation - can be tabled for later (08:58:59 PM) ***ianweller never said that ;) (08:59:12 PM) ianweller: inode0: in other words, not my school district (08:59:20 PM) ke4qqq: musts/coulds/shoulds (08:59:27 PM) ke4qqq: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica/Expectations (08:59:38 PM) ianweller: inode0: but that would definitely be interesting (08:59:41 PM) ke4qqq: would like to move this out of draft now - people have beat on it for a few weeks (08:59:44 PM) ke4qqq: thoughts? (08:59:52 PM) inode0: sorry, the one thing on my list I blew off this week (08:59:59 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: I think its at a good point (09:00:11 PM) herlo: and we should start marketing it around to other ambassadors for opinions (09:00:25 PM) herlo: especially those doing things *not* particularly visible (09:01:02 PM) ke4qqq: ok - I'll send a post to the mailing list and strip that from todos. (09:01:12 PM) ke4qqq: pcalarco: polos? (09:01:18 PM) inode0: I have no further objection to it - but I did plan to make some changes ... (09:01:43 PM) pcalarco: yes, we have another order for 9 more order going to the vendor thurs. (09:01:52 PM) ke4qqq: well it's not written in stone. (09:02:08 PM) ke4qqq: anyone want to step up and blog about this?? DemonJester?? (09:02:28 PM) DemonJester: the should/could/woulds? (09:02:41 PM) ke4qqq: no polos (09:03:00 PM) DemonJester: oh.. sure I will get something out for that.. (09:03:05 PM) ke4qqq: outstanding (09:03:20 PM) pcalarco: actually 11, i just looked at the wiki (09:03:43 PM) inode0: is vwbusguy on the list? (09:04:09 PM) pcalarco: no (09:04:09 PM) ke4qqq: yes think so (09:04:22 PM) ***ke4qqq is thinking of the wrong list (09:05:25 PM) inode0: link handy? (09:05:37 PM) pcalarco: so that will be a total of 16 different NA Ambassadors with polos when this is complete (09:06:03 PM) inode0: pcalarco: do you have the link to the list handy? (09:06:07 PM) ***herlo has a polo :) (09:06:15 PM) pcalarco: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA#Fedora_Ambassador_Polo_Shirts_for_North_America (09:06:16 PM) herlo: from the last round (09:06:22 PM) ke4qqq: lets blog this so that it gets as much visibility as possible. (09:06:37 PM) herlo: so two things to blog (09:06:47 PM) EvilBob: Can one get a polo that does not say "ambassagor" on it? (09:06:47 PM) pcalarco: I can add the first round of folk to the page (09:07:13 PM) herlo: FAD and Polos, it seems those are a good post together (09:07:25 PM) inode0: the order goes out thursday - we need to touch base with your fellow hoosier (09:07:39 PM) ke4qqq: hmmm +1 - perhaps we ought to make the price of admission to FAD a blog post about it ahead of time :) (09:08:43 PM) pcalarco: inode0: which one? (09:09:10 PM) inode0: Scott - he has wanted one for a long time, I'll hunt him down ASAP (09:09:17 PM) herlo: wait, there's an admission cost for FAD? (09:09:25 PM) ke4qqq: it was in jest (09:09:32 PM) herlo: I thought it was just OLF that had a cost. (09:09:33 PM) herlo: oh... (09:09:36 PM) herlo: :) (09:09:52 PM) ke4qqq: sorry - forgot emoticons and that my sarcasm doesn't bleed through. (09:11:06 PM) ***quaid bails to dinner ... (09:11:21 PM) ke4qqq: thanks quaid (09:11:26 PM) ke4qqq: alright anything else to discuss? (09:12:39 PM) ke4qqq: ok hearing nothing we'll adjourn in 30 (09:12:49 PM) ke4qqq: 20 (09:12:57 PM) ke4qqq: 10 (09:13:04 PM) ke4qqq: 5 (09:13:10 PM) ke4qqq: we're adjourned From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 8 08:42:18 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 10:42:18 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora T-Shirts In-Reply-To: <23edaffd0809040125i30de3a1fuf50db70c8ddee40d@mail.gmail.com> References: <23edaffd0809040125i30de3a1fuf50db70c8ddee40d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200809081042.22717.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Hi Victor, sorry for the late reply. Am Donnerstag, 4. September 2008 10:25:02 schrieb Victor Fernandez: > Could you help us (Spanish Community) to get some T-Shirts like this? > http://spevack.livejournal.com/63469.html Thanks Victor to start action for spain! I am very happy that someone take this responsibility. It is not decided where the new shirts will be placed. I think this will be discussed in the next days when max is back from FUDCon. We try to plan our costs in a Quarter Forecast - in general for all Ambassadors it is imperative for proper planing, that you set up Events in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents. Address the prognosticated costs to FAMSCO and originating from the expected benefit for the Fedoraproject they will decide and give you a budget. If you need something what you can wear on events - very quick - please tell me the counts and sizes and a adress where i can send some of my actual stock. Alternative we have the opportunity to wear the Fedora Ambassador Polo Shirts on Events - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/PoloShirt If you can make it happen to coordinate a "spain" order with a count of 5 Polo-Shirts you can add it to the List for FAD 2008 - costs per shirt are around 25 EUR Regards Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 8 13:23:29 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:23:29 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Event in Sri Lanka In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/9/5 Danishka Navin : > Folks, > > Again we got an invitation from National Institute of Education Sri Lanka. > This is the second fedora event @ NIE > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/SriLanka/NIE2 > > Another one for North Western Provincial Teachers > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/SriLanka/NWprovince > > Regards, > -- > Danishka Navin Great, it sounds cool. If you need support feel free to ask here. Regards Francesco Ugolini From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 8 13:25:44 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:25:44 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] UTOSC 2008 Report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/9/5 Clint Savage : > Well, I know FUDCon Brno is going on right now, I hope everyone is > having fun over there. But I thought I'd better get this going before > I head out on the road again for a bunch of weeks. > > I've been a bit busy cleaning up after UTOSC 2008, but now that I'm > back in the swing of things, there were several blog posts. A couple > were by me and a few by others to help give an overview of the > conference and its goings on. Here's a quick list: > > A couple from me: > http://fedoratutorials.com/2008/08/29/utosc-2008-day-1/ > http://fedoratutorials.com/2008/08/30/utosc-2008-day-2/ > > A couple from Paul: > http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1147 > http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1143 > > >From others, possibly related to Fedora: > http://www.fozzilinymoo.org/Fozzolog/2008/08/utosc-day-1.html > http://testopia.blogspot.com/2008/09/utosc-2008.html > http://pyrous.net/blog/?p=14 > http://blog.endpoint.com/2008/08/camps-presentation-at-utosc-2008.html > > We also have tons of pictures up on our flickr page: > > http://flickr.com/groups/utosc/pool/ > Great report and great event too! I enjoy reading your blog post and seeing your photos. Moreover, reading the previous thread I saw the number of registered attendees was great, so keep this way. Regards Francesco Ugolini From david at gnsa.us Mon Sep 8 13:55:45 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 09:55:45 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hello all In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/9/6 chicagonpg : > My name is Shaun Mallette and I have been using Fedora since Fedora 5, I > started using open source three years ago. I have been into computers since > 1992 but once I found out about linux and open source I never looked back to > anything else. I'm a big supporter of linux and open source. I live in > Portage, Indiana USA and I'm part of the local LUG lugin.org. I'm part of > FWN and trying to learn how to help with that also.I'm current enrolled in a > linux/unix certification program and hope one day to get certififed for Red > Hat. > Hi Shaun, Welcome to the group. A couple of things to tell you. I believe Indiana is in the Central Region. John Rose (inode0) is the Central Region's coordinator, so feel free to hit him up if you need something, he can get you started, and familiar with things. The North American Ambassadors meet every Tuesday at 9pm Eastern (Wednesday 0100 UTC) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freednode.net You may want to see if you are able to attend the Ohio Linux Fest in Columbus Ohio on October 11th as we will be having a Fedora Ambassadors Day: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADNA2008 Also, you might want to review our Musts/Should/Could https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica/Expectations And finally - please add yourself to this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Regions Thanks, David Nalley From dezone24 at gmail.com Mon Sep 8 18:44:34 2008 From: dezone24 at gmail.com (Diego Escobar) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:44:34 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] =?iso-8859-1?q?=A1Announcing_Fedora_Colombia!?= Message-ID: English: Hi all: I am pleased to introduce a new website Fedora, the first official in Colombia for Fedora Project and one more for "Proyecto Fedora" Latinoamerica, as a part of our commitment to spread Fedora on latinoamerican and spanish speakers communities. Thanks to all Fedora Community, to latinoamerican people and a special mention for Juan Rodriguez (Nushio) from Fedora Mexico who does a great job administrating Proyecto Fedora infraestructure. This is my first "official" contribution to send the Fedora?s message to the world, and I hope from this humble beginning, that Fedora Colombia not only is a meeting point for colombian fedora?s users else for latinoamerican people and contribute - of course - with much more to Fedora Project. You can see it on: http://proyectofedora.org/colombia Greetings! -- Diego Escobar Fedora Ambassador for Colombia Fedora Release 9 (Sulphur): Linux Kernel 2.6.25 + Gnome 2.22 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spanish: Hola a todos: Tengo el placer de presentarles un nuevo sitio Web de Fedora, el primero oficial en Colombia y uno m?s para Proyecto Fedora Latinoam?rica, como parte de nuestro compromiso de masificar Fedora en Latinoam?rica y la comunidad hispano hablante en general. Gracias a toda la comunidad Fedora, a las personas de latinoam?rica y una menci?n especial a Juan Rodriguez (Nushio) de Fedora M?xico quien realiza un excelente trabajo administrando la infraestructura de Proyecto Fedora. 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URL: From chakrabortydipanjan at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 8 19:16:36 2008 From: chakrabortydipanjan at fedoraproject.org (Dipanjan Chakraborty) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 00:46:36 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting log. 09-07-2008 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 10:00 AM, susmit shannigrahi < thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com> wrote: > MagieAntonio > SusmitShannigrahi > shambo > EngelsAntonio > DipanjanChakraborty > Rishikesh > RishikeshSharma > btoogood > btoogood, your wiki name please (FirstnameLastname) > BrendonToogood > what do we have on agenda? > t-shirts > apac polo shirt > ok > upcoming events for q4 > chinese forum support > we were talking about the design and price > any chinese member here? > the design can be "outsourced" to art team > are you aware of the service? > yes > yes > does the price depend on the design? > or is there a fixd one? > rarely, when you produce in bulk, its fixed > i reckon a fixed price myself > how much is it around? > and can we customize it for our region/ > !! > dipanjanc, +1 > Its about 25 euro > as because of different currencies around apac if people > are going to order in bulk just a thought > dipanjanc, +1 > shambo, too high a price, we produced some in ~INR250 :) > 25 euro is around how much in INR? > approx $54 NZD > 1592 inr > very conservative estimate, excluding shipping, ~10USD > * Subhodip has quit (No route to host) > but the question is > 1592 INR is too high > yea > who is going to produce them and how to ship it > ? > i think 10 euro is better > can we take susmit's suggestion of INR 250? > we will contact famsco for this > * Subhodip (n=subhodip at 117.201.96.141) has joined #fedora-meeting > Initially, it will involve a lot of money > rishikesh, that's fine > becasue all the financial matter require to contact famsco > if we want to customize it, who's doing the design? > they are unlikely to provide support for something non-event > they have already done for the european ambassadors > ok i have just had a thought, now dont bite me, but why not > get the design done and the ambassadors get them printed for there > regions, according to colour of the polo > as different countries different prices for printing, just a > thought > i guess it was for fudcon > EMEA has done that..my friend > shambo shandflm SMParrish sm|CPU Sonar_Gal Sonar_Guy sonar_logger3 > spevack spot spstarr_work stickster StillBob Subhodip susmit > and yes, Subhodip is right > so, what's the solution? > we must calculate the oder no first as with that pricing will > vary .i.e if we are ordering > getting a polo shirt printed will be expensive > Subhodip, not much > ~10USD > for that quatity, we need to put up the wiki for polo shirt > request > for that quantity, we need to put up the wiki for polo shirt > request > it's around 7 us dollars in the philippines > so what about normal tees ..then btoogood's suggestion can be > done > magie, nice :) > Subhodip, we > have two things > one production cost, and another shipping cost > normal t-shirts go for 4.3 us dollars > btoogood's suggestion of getting the design done and > printing it locally is good. > is it not? > lets fix one thing first > yes > if we have a specific design and if we print them locally > as per btoogood then shipping cost > is not needed i guess > first thing is, lets approach art team for a cooool design. > it should be polo shirt or t-shirt > :) > to me i think polo shirt is better than th-shirt > +1 > whichever is more economic :) > 'casue in any event, polo shirt is better > tee shirt > rishikesh, me, me , me too... > tee shirt is better in summer > t-shirt is very casual > not so formal > we mostly have summer in India > eh .. i am wearing fedora tee now ..its not casual > what others say? > 'cause we represent fedora > casual is not a factor. I think > Get Fedora skirts so you stand out in the crowd... > what we do is what fedora is > * EvilBob runs > whatever is good will do > EvilBob, lol > * susmit runs afet EvilBob > after > tees will be better > +1 for tees > so what about if we have a design and let the ambassador > print on what he wan t > so representing fedora on people event by wearing t-shirt > is not a good idea to me > want > +1 for tees > hold on for a second > what about girls? > rishikesh, you are getting it wrong > girls wear t-shirts > don't they? > but the _same_ t-shirt? > they do here > susmit, yes > they do wear the same t-shirts. > * mdomsch (n=mdomsch at cpe-70-124-62-55.austin.res.rr.com) has joined > #fedora-meeting > I have no problem, but why not ask the girls? > uni-sex tees > But, incase they are reluctant, we must think of an alternative > if being formal is the case full sleeve shirts is a better option > I am not much conversant about ladies-wears > lets post this idea on list..and ask for "criticism" :) > ok > +1 > +1 > +1 > +1 > +1 > +1 :) > * btoogood just asked my wife she thinks tees > will differ from country to country > and? we are waiting with our finger crossed :D > fedora is the voice of people, so lets put up on wiki for vote > have we finalised for the men? > or do we vote for it? > lets take a vote > lets discuss it on the list first...then we 'll have a vote > * Subhodip thinks normal tee is better .. but not the white one ..if > printed on black/blue ..its great > if we go for a vote, we must also mention the estimated > price against each option > about the costing : we should select a nation where cost of > printing and cost of tees/polos will be low > +1 for blue > and shipping > withn APAC > we should go for fedora colour > shipping will be less than that of US > considering APAC is a huge region, why don't we produce it > two or three countries.. > first get the artwork done .. then we can have it printed > in our respective countries > but lets not get into details first > Subhodip, right > then what about the idea of printing it locally? > why bother about shipping right now > subhodip +1 > dipanjanc, hold on > Lets define the tasks > ok > ok > ok > 1. Post to the list asking for suggestions > ok > 2. Request the art team along with Ideas > 3. Decide whether it will be a t-shirt or whatever > 4. Who is going to produce and store and ship > 5. How many? > EOF > ok > +1 > +1 > done > anything anyone want to add? > lets do this onefirst > can we also list the estimated price when we decide? > good idea > good idea > yes we can > which point does this add to? 6.? > dipanjanc, why don't you put up a wiki page on the same? > i think we should consider both pricing of tees and polos > ok. I will do it. And let you know > thanks > ok > so may we move? > it will help in price comparison and better decision making > thats the end of discussion for shirts > yes what's next? > now lets move forward for the events > yip lets > yes > anyone from china? > i think we should go for a event in which all regions > members can meet with > I guess no...so no point discussing agenda 2 > each other ambassadors > we are from different countries > susmit, link to agenda 2 please > Subhodip, > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-07 > agenda 3 > i think chinese people are not avaibale on the meeting > susmit, thanks > q4 events > yes > yea > i have too a event on december 7 > ! > magie, > please go on > OT: we have an upcoming event on Sept 20, Q3 > before we talk about Q4 > oops...the budget for Q3 is closed. But please go on > funding was allocated for apac c/o Harish Pillay > oh, its listed > ok > SFD>' > ? > software freedom day > http://bluepoint.com.ph/sfd08/ > just want to ask how we go about getting help/funds > if anyone has done it before > if you have an event, you need to enlist the event before > that quarter's budget is closed > yes we've done that, what's next? > the guidelines is also avaibale on the wiki > if famsco approve that, you will get funded > budget is approved but how do we get the fund? > on december 7, 2008 i have Fedora 10 Realease party and > install fest at Imphal,Manipur > this is the first fedora event in my region > I am not sure, probably you receive the fund after the event, > I was so told...anyone from FamsCo here? > magie, maybe we can just coordinate with famsco or harish > about your inquiry > magie, anything else? > I think we can move on > ok > rishikesh, have you enlisted your event? > it's ok, I think rishikesh is excited about his event > :) > yea > you can check on the wiki > have you estimated expense and mailed famsco? > i would like to proposed an event in which apac > ambassadors can meet with each other > nope > do that > rishikesh, do one thing at a time > that would be good but very expensive though going from one > country to another > ok > btoogood, +1 > btoogood, +1 > +1 > rishikesh, why do you think meeting in person is very necessary? > btoogood, +1 > +1 > we are meetin here > do i need to explain all the detail expenses > while submitting > as minutely as possible > ok > ok > Subhodip, can you have one such event? > may be at your place? or nit dgp? > I meant release event... > susmit we have a event on 20 sept > shambo, just a second > please > i need to talk to people in my college > * stickster is now known as stickster_afk > do it please > ok > yes. that will be great > dipanjanc, you can do that too at your lug? > susmit: what about your place? > yes I can. I suppose > go on and organise > shambo, please > will need some details about how it's done > susmit we have a event on 20 sept > dipanjanc, mail me offlist > ok > is it listed > ? > * makghosh (n=Joy at 117.201.96.28) has joined #fedora-meeting > check out http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > which one? > * warren (n=warren at redhat/wombat/warren) has joined #fedora-meeting > owner A. Mani > oh..ok > SFD > yes > do you need any assistance? > not money > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Budget > does not show your event > yes can i attend it . im not an ambassador > of course > ok > can anyone give me the venue in Kolkata for this? > where is the event in kolkata no details is given > but that depends on the organisers, within fedora, if you are > not an Ambassador its not a problem.. > but why don't be one? > no offence ...aren't we deviating from agenda ..we are > still stuck with Q3 .. > Subhodip, and its the last one :D > but yes, shambo mail Mani A. > anyone else? > ok > anything more anyone want to discuss? > 5 > yes > rishikesh, > what are resources i can avail for my event > what do you need? > my event is fedora 10 release and i need fedora 10 dvd media > it is not released now > if you receive money, you need to take care of all those > things from your budget > but when it is released > please search the wiki > there is a alpha release > when submiting budget > can i include all the requirements > iam going for a final release not alpha > like blank dvd cost > estimate..for example....for producing 100 media I need > 100*9=900 INR for media and 100*1 =100 INR for stickers..So 1000INR > for media and so on... > projector hiring cost > stickers? > cd labels > true > rishikesh, > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/Organization > go through it. > anything more? > ok > 5 > 4 > 3 > 2 > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit > ============================================= > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Updated the wiki on the t-shirts: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/APAC_Ambassadors_T-Shirts -- Yours sincerely, Dipanjan Chakraborty -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From nareshlx at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 8 20:06:35 2008 From: nareshlx at fedoraproject.org (Naresh KN) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 01:36:35 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction of a new member In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3d9e71570809081306h2b985fb1r567b6e8a1d88fc23@mail.gmail.com> Welcome aboard matey!! :) 2008/9/9 Shambo Bose > Hi everybody, I am Shambo Bose from India. I have just completed graduation > and is preparing for RHCE. I am preparing for RHCE with Fedora 8 . > As Fedora Core 3 was my first linux experience on my first computer I > always wanted to get involved in the Fedora Project and the chance came > after so many years. I want to spread the free spirit of Fedora around the > globe by sharing my small time experience which I gathered using Fedora so I > joined the ambassador project. I am looking forward to play a small but > significant role in Fedora's success in the future. > > > Thank You. > > > > Yours sicerely > > Shambo Bose > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From msrazi at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 8 20:28:32 2008 From: msrazi at fedoraproject.org (Mohd Syafarul Razi) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 04:28:32 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Greeting from Malaysia Message-ID: Hello all ambassadors, I'm Razi from Malaysia and my 1st linux experience was with Red Hat 5.1 (Manhattan) around 1999. I'm not hardcore user of linux, also not a software developer but I use linux as hobby. My goal as a Fedora ambassador is to represent linux to secondary school students in Malaysia as an educational tool for learning IT and beside they can also learn English language. I currently work in engineering/manufacturing field which not connected anymore with IT world. Regards from Malaysia Mohd Syafarul Razi, From msrazi at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 8 20:28:51 2008 From: msrazi at fedoraproject.org (Mohd Syafarul Razi) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 04:28:51 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Greeting from Malaysia Message-ID: Hello all ambassadors, I'm Razi from Malaysia and my 1st linux experience was with Red Hat 5.1 (Manhattan) around 1999. I'm not hardcore user of linux, also not a software developer but I use linux as hobby. My goal as a Fedora ambassador is to represent linux to secondary school students in Malaysia as an educational tool for learning IT and beside they can also learn English language. I currently work in engineering/manufacturing field which not connected anymore with IT world. Regards from Malaysia From rodrigomenezes12 at yahoo.com.br Mon Sep 8 22:24:49 2008 From: rodrigomenezes12 at yahoo.com.br (Rodrigo Menezes) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:24:49 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Project Brazil Releases the Third Online Magazine In-Reply-To: <6ad0ab20809081312o416948a4g6d788d57fb32930d@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ad0ab20809081312o416948a4g6d788d57fb32930d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48C5A631.6070903@yahoo.com.br> The only magazine especialized in Fedora distribution in Brazil release his third online edition. With powerfull stories for his readers, the magazine was released focused in the system utilization for all kind of users, including big enterprises as you can see in our cover story about the migration in the Public Ministery Department in Tocantins state to Fedora, as for Desktop users with stories about MPlayer, Pidgin, Ogg Vorbis and others. Included you can find the second article about System Config Tools for Fedora, last article about Port Knocking and the third story about the Introdution to Shell Script. Enjoy. Special thanks to Paul Frield who wrote our Editorial and you can find in English and translated to Portuguese. This release we have a big promotion togheter with Mozilla team, wrote some news about the Fedora Brasil Magazine release in our blog/site and fill our form. The winners will receive some suvenirs as bottons, stickers and t-shirts. The editorial team is composed for Fedora Ambassadors and members of the Fedora Comunity who take care of the content, artwork and revisions. Do you wanna join our team? Acess the following link: http://projetofedora.org/Revista Link to the maganize and sorce files: http://projetofedora.org/Revista Rodrigo Menezes Fedora Amabassador Embaixador do Projeto Fedora http://www.projetofedora.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RodrigoMenezes __________________________________________________ Fa?a liga??es para outros computadores com o novo Yahoo! Messenger http://br.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ From linux.charged at gmail.com Mon Sep 8 22:54:42 2008 From: linux.charged at gmail.com (Junior Tomazelli) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 19:54:42 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction of a new member In-Reply-To: <3d9e71570809081306h2b985fb1r567b6e8a1d88fc23@mail.gmail.com> References: <3d9e71570809081306h2b985fb1r567b6e8a1d88fc23@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Welcome. :D -- Wolnei C?ndido Tomazelli Junior (Charged) Brazil Fedora Ambassador Designer and TI E-mail : linux.charged at gmail.com Linux User #477062 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm not hardcore user of linux, also not a software > developer but I use linux as hobby. > > My goal as a Fedora ambassador is to represent linux to secondary school > students in Malaysia as an educational tool for learning IT and beside they > can also learn English language. I currently work in > engineering/manufacturing field which not connected anymore with IT world. Have you subscribed to any of the Malaysian FOSS mailing lists as well? Welcome to Fedora! -- Harish Pillay h.pillay at ieee.org gpg id: 746809E3 fingerprint: F7F5 5CCD 25B9 FC25 303E 3DA2 0F80 27DB 7468 09E3 From rishikesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 9 04:33:01 2008 From: rishikesh at fedoraproject.org (Rishikesh Sharma) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:03:01 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Budget for Events Message-ID: <7cb778c60809082133h581046c7t7a19b1fee66d90f0@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, I am planning a Fedora Event on 7 December 2008 at Imphal, India. I have also put up the event on the wiki. I have some queries regarding financial assistance from FAMSCO. Whether i need to submit the budget prior to event or not. What are the others formalities required. I need clarification on this regard. This is my first event as an ambassador. With Regards, Rishikesh Sharma Fedora Ambassador, Imphal India. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sparshme5 at gmail.com Tue Sep 9 06:50:22 2008 From: sparshme5 at gmail.com (gaurav taywade) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:20:22 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction of a new member In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: u r most welcome... 2008/9/9 Shambo Bose > Hi everybody, I am Shambo Bose from India. I have just completed graduation > and is preparing for RHCE. I am preparing for RHCE with Fedora 8 . > As Fedora Core 3 was my first linux experience on my first computer I > always wanted to get involved in the Fedora Project and the chance came > after so many years. I want to spread the free spirit of Fedora around the > globe by sharing my small time experience which I gathered using Fedora so I > joined the ambassador project. I am looking forward to play a small but > significant role in Fedora's success in the future. > > > Thank You. > > > > Yours sicerely > > Shambo Bose > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Gaurav Taywade +99606-20260 Secondary mail:sparshme5 at rediffmail.com Web:- http://sparshme5.googlepages.com http://ambanagari.googlepages.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I want to spread the free spirit of Fedora around the > globe by sharing my small time experience which I gathered using Fedora so I > joined the ambassador project. I am looking forward to play a small but > significant role in Fedora's success in the future. > > > Thank You. > > > > Yours sicerely > > Shambo Bose > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner 16, Sun Rise complex, Nr. Mansi cross Road, Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. www.electromech.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But in general any linux can be use. > > > > >> >> As Fedora Core 3 was my first linux experience on my first computer I >> always wanted to get involved in the Fedora Project and the chance came >> after so many years. I want to spread the free spirit of Fedora around the >> globe by sharing my small time experience which I gathered using Fedora so I >> joined the ambassador project. I am looking forward to play a small but >> significant role in Fedora's success in the future. >> >> >> Thank You. >> >> >> >> Yours sicerely >> >> Shambo Bose >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > > -- > Nilesh Vaghela > ElectroMech > Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner > 16, Sun Rise complex, > Nr. Mansi cross Road, > Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad > 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. > www.electromech.info > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Zied Fakhfakh Dot TN - CTO Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis Tunisia T : +216 71 886112 F : +216 71 885499 M : +216 22 535604 W : http://www.dottn.com GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frankly3d at gmail.com Tue Sep 9 10:00:12 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 11:00:12 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?=A1Announcing?= Fedora Colombia! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1220954412.2658.18.camel@frank-01> On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 13:44 -0500, Diego Escobar wrote: > > English: > > Hi all: > > I am pleased to introduce a new website Fedora, the first official in > Colombia for Fedora Project and one more for "Proyecto Fedora" > Latinoamerica, as a part of our commitment to spread Fedora on > latinoamerican and spanish speakers communities. > Congrats... Frank From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 9 10:18:00 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:18:00 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Budget for Events In-Reply-To: <7cb778c60809082133h581046c7t7a19b1fee66d90f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60809082133h581046c7t7a19b1fee66d90f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/9 Rishikesh Sharma : > Hi All, > > I am planning a Fedora Event on 7 December 2008 at Imphal, India. I have > also put up the event on the wiki. I have some queries regarding financial > assistance from FAMSCO. Whether i need to submit the budget prior to event > or not. What are the others formalities required. I need clarification on > this regard. This is my first event as an ambassador. > > > With Regards, > Rishikesh Sharma > Fedora Ambassador, Imphal > India. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > I'll try to resume some steps you can do: - Add your event in the Wiki page (as you have done), then if you know how much you plan to spend, you can add this in the description or writing here or contacting directly FAmSCo. - FAmSCo has a fixed budget for the fiscal quarter. It will decide how to distribute resources, according to some criteria: one of this is the Event Owner request for the event. I suggest you to make a proposal, then FAmSCo, after reviewing your event and the others one (starting a month before the beginning of Q4) will decided if and how much you could receive. Hope I give the right answer Regards Francesco Ugolini From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 9 10:20:12 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:20:12 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Budget for Events In-Reply-To: <7cb778c60809082133h581046c7t7a19b1fee66d90f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60809082133h581046c7t7a19b1fee66d90f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/9 Rishikesh Sharma : > Hi All, > > I am planning a Fedora Event on 7 December 2008 at Imphal, India. I have > also put up the event on the wiki. I have some queries regarding financial > assistance from FAMSCO. Whether i need to submit the budget prior to event > or not. What are the others formalities required. I need clarification on > this regard. This is my first event as an ambassador. > > > With Regards, > Rishikesh Sharma > Fedora Ambassador, Imphal > India. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > I'll try to summarize some of the step to process a budget for an event: - Add your event in the Wiki page (as you have done), then if you know how much you plan to spend, you can add this in the description or writing here or contacting directly FAmSCo. - FAmSCo has a fixed budget for the fiscal quarter. It will decide how to distribute resources, according to some criteria: one of this is the Event Owner request for the event. I suggest you to make a proposal, then FAmSCo, after reviewing your event and the others one (starting a month before the beginning of Q4) will decided if and how much you could receive. Hope I gave you the right answer Regards Francesco Ugolini From rishikesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 9 11:28:36 2008 From: rishikesh at fedoraproject.org (Rishikesh Sharma) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:58:36 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Budget for Events In-Reply-To: References: <7cb778c60809082133h581046c7t7a19b1fee66d90f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7cb778c60809090428k7fd5bc0fk5b53a3becbe5bbe2@mail.gmail.com> Ok,Thanks a lot for the advice. On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Francesco Ugolini < fugolini at fedoraproject.org> wrote: > 2008/9/9 Rishikesh Sharma : > > Hi All, > > > > I am planning a Fedora Event on 7 December 2008 at Imphal, India. I have > > also put up the event on the wiki. I have some queries regarding > financial > > assistance from FAMSCO. Whether i need to submit the budget prior to > event > > or not. What are the others formalities required. I need clarification on > > this regard. This is my first event as an ambassador. > > > > > > With Regards, > > Rishikesh Sharma > > Fedora Ambassador, Imphal > > India. > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > I'll try to summarize some of the step to process a budget for an event: > > - Add your event in the Wiki page (as you have done), then if you know > how much you plan to spend, you can add this in the description or > writing here or contacting directly FAmSCo. > > - FAmSCo has a fixed budget for the fiscal quarter. It will decide how > to distribute resources, according to some criteria: one of this is > the Event Owner request for the event. > > I suggest you to make a proposal, then FAmSCo, after reviewing your > event and the others one (starting a month before the beginning of Q4) > will decided if and how much you could receive. > > Hope I gave you the right answer > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lucas at cefetce.br Tue Sep 9 12:21:31 2008 From: lucas at cefetce.br (Lucas - Linux Sys. Admin (CEFETCE/UAB)) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 09:21:31 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction of a new member In-Reply-To: References: <24233aca0809082357t2be6181awc7b19bf7b8e37f31@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: welcome aboard, pal and we look foward to be seing your activities. 2008/9/9 Zied Fakhfakh > Hi :) > > 2008/9/9 ElectroMech > > Hi, Shambo >> >> welcome to fedora world. >> >> One personal advise ( I know not good on public site ). >> >> 2008/9/9 Shambo Bose >> >>> Hi everybody, I am Shambo Bose from India. I have just completed >>> graduation and is preparing for RHCE. I am preparing for RHCE with Fedora 8 >>> . >>> >> >> You must use RHEL5 for better practice because the exam will be on RHEL 5. >> Some of the fine tuned file for RHEL5 may confuse you. >> >> Stick to RHEL for RHCE exam. But in general any linux can be use. >> >> >> >> >>> >>> As Fedora Core 3 was my first linux experience on my first computer I >>> always wanted to get involved in the Fedora Project and the chance came >>> after so many years. I want to spread the free spirit of Fedora around the >>> globe by sharing my small time experience which I gathered using Fedora so I >>> joined the ambassador project. I am looking forward to play a small but >>> significant role in Fedora's success in the future. >>> >>> >>> Thank You. >>> >>> >>> >>> Yours sicerely >>> >>> Shambo Bose >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> -- >> Nilesh Vaghela >> ElectroMech >> Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner >> 16, Sun Rise complex, >> Nr. Mansi cross Road, >> Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad >> 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. >> www.electromech.info >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > Zied Fakhfakh > Dot TN - CTO > Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 > Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis > Tunisia > > T : +216 71 886112 > F : +216 71 885499 > M : +216 22 535604 > W : http://www.dottn.com > > GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by *MailScanner* , and is > believed to be clean. > > :::: CONTRIBUA COM O MEIO AMBIENTE. N?O IMPRIMA ESTA MENSAGEM ::::: > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- -- -- Atenciosamente, Lucas do Amaral Saboya CEFET-CE - UAB-CE. 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Aranda Segura, soy del Puerto de Progreso, en el estado de Yucat?n, M?xico, en la actualidad soy usuario Linux y ayudo a gente que quiere introducirse en este mundo, con las experiencias y conocimientos que tengo, estoy luchando por lograr que la empresa donde trabajo migre sus Desktop a linux, y quiero ense?ar a la gente de la region donde vive de lo que es linux, como funciona y mostrarles las ventajas de Linux y el software libre en general, asi como lo que es Fedora y todo lo que se puede hacer con ello, espero poder ayudarlos a todos tal vez no tengo mucha experiencia y conocimiento pero para algo puedo ayudarles, y estoy aqui para servirles en lo que necesiten, saludos, y pues aqui empiezo esta aventura... XD -- Linux Registered User # 389146 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Aranda Segura, soy del Puerto de Progreso, en el > estado de Yucat?n, M?xico, en la actualidad soy usuario Linux y ayudo a > gente que quiere introducirse en este mundo, con las experiencias y > conocimientos que tengo, estoy luchando por lograr que la empresa donde > trabajo migre sus Desktop a linux, y quiero ense?ar a la gente de la region > donde vive de lo que es linux, como funciona y mostrarles las ventajas de > Linux y el software libre en general, asi como lo que es Fedora y todo lo > que se puede hacer con ello, espero poder ayudarlos a todos tal vez no tengo > mucha experiencia y conocimiento pero para algo puedo ayudarles, y estoy > aqui para servirles en lo que necesiten, saludos, y pues aqui empiezo esta > aventura... 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I'm a web developer from Bucharest (Romania - Europe) mainly developing high availability web applications taking for grant a setup with Fedora as OS for the server. I'm a heavy user of BIND, Apache, LigHTTPD, Sendmail, PHP, MySQL, Memcached, and all web development related stuff... I also use Fedora to setup Samba servers as Primary Domain Controllers for small and medium size companies. I want to expose more Fedora to Romania. I have a lot of ideas to enforce the strong Fedora user base. (It remains to be seen how much time I will find for this... although I think with every customer I already did a lot... and i'll continue doing it...) I would also like to get involved in: Distribution, Internationalization (L10n & i18n), Marketing and probably News and Translation. I'm very sure I will add value to the Fedora Ambassadors Project and I'm convinced that results will be noticeable... 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I liked a lot. =) Congratulations to you, Eunir Augusto and Pablo Barrera. > They made a great job and helped me a lot creating the web site. > We do not have a forum yet, because I hope that the brazilian could accept > the challenge to make a forum together because we have the same language > with minimal differences. > The guys from Ubuntu have a lot of sucess using this forum model and i hope > that we also, could create a big forum for all portuguese speaker's of the > world. > I think the same, a unified forum would be the best solution for us. Without duplicate work, duplicate questions and so. =/ Best regards, -- *Ricardo Ichizo* Projeto Fedora Brasil http://projetofedora.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From root at ibunk.or.id Tue Sep 9 06:28:47 2008 From: root at ibunk.or.id (root at ibunk.or.id) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:28:47 +0700 (WIT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora T-Shirts In-Reply-To: <200809081042.22717.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <23edaffd0809040125i30de3a1fuf50db70c8ddee40d@mail.gmail.com> <200809081042.22717.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <54417.202.152.241.68.1220941727.squirrel@ibunk.or.id> How about in Indonesia...My I Order that T-Shirts ?? > Hi Victor, > > sorry for the late reply. > > Am Donnerstag, 4. September 2008 10:25:02 schrieb Victor Fernandez: >> Could you help us (Spanish Community) to get some T-Shirts like this? >> http://spevack.livejournal.com/63469.html > > Thanks Victor to start action for spain! I am very happy that someone take > this responsibility. It is not decided where the new shirts will be > placed. > I think this will be discussed in the next days when max is back from > FUDCon. > > We try to plan our costs in a Quarter Forecast - in general for all > Ambassadors it is imperative for proper planing, that you set up Events in > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents. Address the prognosticated > costs > to FAMSCO and originating from the expected benefit for the Fedoraproject > they will decide and give you a budget. > > If you need something what you can wear on events - very quick - > please tell me the counts and sizes and a adress where i can send some of > my > actual stock. > > Alternative we have the opportunity to wear the Fedora Ambassador Polo > Shirts > on Events - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/PoloShirt > If you can make it happen to coordinate a "spain" order with a count of 5 > Polo-Shirts you can add it to the List for FAD 2008 - costs per shirt are > around 25 EUR > > Regards Joerg > > -- > Joerg (kital) Simon > jsimon at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon > http://kitall.blogspot.com > Key Fingerprint: > 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Tue Sep 9 21:59:47 2008 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:59:47 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Great news from Portugal In-Reply-To: <398fedab0809091357y1a100f56xdbc08d88cec2ec02@mail.gmail.com> References: <398fedab0809091357y1a100f56xdbc08d88cec2ec02@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48C6F1D3.10901@projetofedora.org> S?lvio Reis escreveu: > I want to announce that the site of the Project Fedora Portugal it's now > working. Please visit the site and give me a feedback! > http://www.projectofedora.org > I want to express my thanks to* Eunir Augusto* ( ambassador from Brazil) > and *Pablo Barrera* (ambassador from Argentina). > They made a great job and helped me a lot creating the web site. > We do not have a forum yet, because I hope that the brazilian could > accept the challenge to make a forum together because we have the same > language with minimal differences. > The guys from Ubuntu have a lot of sucess using this forum model and i > hope that we also, could create a big forum for all portuguese speaker's > of the world. > Cheers, > > -- > *S?lvio Reis* Congratulations Silvio! Now we can improve the Portuguese community! -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America http://www.proyectofedora.org From euniraugusto at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 02:26:11 2008 From: euniraugusto at gmail.com (Eunir Augusto) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 23:26:11 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Great news from Portugal In-Reply-To: <48C6F1D3.10901@projetofedora.org> References: <398fedab0809091357y1a100f56xdbc08d88cec2ec02@mail.gmail.com> <48C6F1D3.10901@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <337531360809091926r71116a6do586f9afbb6040d7a@mail.gmail.com> Sucess for you 2008/9/9 Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > S?lvio Reis escreveu: > > I want to announce that the site of the Project Fedora Portugal it's now > > working. Please visit the site and give me a feedback! > > http://www.projectofedora.org > > I want to express my thanks to* Eunir Augusto* ( ambassador from Brazil) > > and *Pablo Barrera* (ambassador from Argentina). > > They made a great job and helped me a lot creating the web site. > > We do not have a forum yet, because I hope that the brazilian could > > accept the challenge to make a forum together because we have the same > > language with minimal differences. > > The guys from Ubuntu have a lot of sucess using this forum model and i > > hope that we also, could create a big forum for all portuguese speaker's > > of the world. > > Cheers, > > > > -- > > *S?lvio Reis* > > Congratulations Silvio! > > Now we can improve the Portuguese community! > > -- > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > M.Sc. 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Please visit the site and give me a feedback! > http://www.projectofedora.org > I want to express my thanks to Eunir Augusto ( ambassador from Brazil) > and Pablo Barrera (ambassador from Argentina). > They made a great job and helped me a lot creating the web site. > We do not have a forum yet, because I hope that the brazilian could > accept the challenge to make a forum together because we have the same > language with minimal differences. > The guys from Ubuntu have a lot of sucess using this forum model and i > hope that we also, could create a big forum for all portuguese > speaker's of the world. > Cheers, > > -- > S?lvio Reis > Projecto Fedora Portugal > http://www.projectofedora.org/ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Pablo Iranzo G?mez (Pablo.Iranzo at redhat.com) RHCE/RHCSP/RHCSS Global Profesional Services Consultant Spain Phone: +34 645 01 01 49 (CET/CEST) GnuPG KeyID: 0xFAD3CF0D -- Inscrita en el Reg. 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URL: From shambo.linux at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 08:09:12 2008 From: shambo.linux at gmail.com (Shambo Bose) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:39:12 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: <48C764D4.6070404@reuschlein.de> References: <48C764D4.6070404@reuschlein.de> Message-ID: 2008/9/10 Peter Reuschlein > Tarek Taha schrieb: > >> >> http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3770216/The+Fedora-Red+Hat+Crisis.htm >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > Good Article, > > sorry but a +1 for me... Its nearly like i saw and still see the things > running currently. > > regards > Peter > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > NICE !!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Comaring it with Debians situation isnt right..?regards, Ankur --- On Wed, 10/9/08, Shambo Bose wrote: From: Shambo Bose Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Date: Wednesday, 10 September, 2008, 1:39 PM 2008/9/10 Peter Reuschlein Tarek Taha schrieb: http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3770216/The+Fedora-Red+Hat+Crisis.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Good Article, sorry but a +1 for me... Its nearly like i saw and still see the things running currently. regards Peter -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list NICE !!!! -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From suyash.kmr at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 08:45:59 2008 From: suyash.kmr at gmail.com (S.K.) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:15:59 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: <427488.626.qm@web8407.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <427488.626.qm@web8407.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The article is nothing but pure hogwash. He's just trying to justify a previous article of his for which he was criticized. The author has just tried to give his argument a favourable turn for himself when, actually he has no real proof. 2008/9/10 ankur sinha > hi, > > I dont realy think the articles worth too much..Both sides handled the > situation as well as possible keeping boths interests in mind. Comaring it > with Debians situation isnt right.. > > regards, > > Ankur > > --- On *Wed, 10/9/08, Shambo Bose * wrote: > > From: Shambo Bose > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Date: Wednesday, 10 September, 2008, 1:39 PM > > > > 2008/9/10 Peter Reuschlein > >> Tarek Taha schrieb: >> >>> >>> http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3770216/The+Fedora-Red+Hat+Crisis.htm >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >> >> Good Article, >> >> sorry but a +1 for me... Its nearly like i saw and still see the things >> running currently. >> >> regards >> Peter >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > NICE !!!! > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing listFedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.comhttps://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > ------------------------------ > Download prohibited? No problem. CHATfrom any browser, without download. > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- S.K. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I sincerely hope that I'm wrong, and that it was only a bad experience that won't happen again. Regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin From sanjay_ankur at yahoo.co.in Wed Sep 10 08:49:36 2008 From: sanjay_ankur at yahoo.co.in (ankur sinha) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:19:36 +0530 (IST) Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: <57893.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221036125.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: <548821.16070.qm@web8407.mail.in.yahoo.com> hi,Can someone please give pricise details on thie crisis. Im for some reason not too well informed about what happened internally. All i know is frm the Jesse Keating updates. regards,Ankur --- On Wed, 10/9/08, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: From: Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Date: Wednesday, 10 September, 2008, 2:12 PM > http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3770216/The+Fedora-Red+Hat+Crisis.htm This article explains exactly how I (and others) have been feeling about this situation. I find it especially hard for ambassadors (the ones not employed by RedHat). We've been advertising Fedora as a transparent and open community. A community where everyone could join in, take responsibilities, help,... This "incident" taught us that we were absolutely wrong. Fedora is just another FOSS project, a technically very good Linux distribution, where everyone is allowed to contribute code, but that's all. I sincerely hope that I'm wrong, and that it was only a bad experience that won't happen again. Regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tataha at eng.uts.edu.au Wed Sep 10 08:54:41 2008 From: tataha at eng.uts.edu.au (Tarek Taha) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:54:41 +1000 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: <427488.626.qm@web8407.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <427488.626.qm@web8407.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well what was very inaccurate in his article and annoyed me was these parts : It was only on August 22 that Frields was permitted to announce that, "Last week we discovered that some Fedora servers were illegally accessed. The intrusion into the servers was quickly discovered, and the servers were taken offline . . . .One of the compromised Fedora servers was a system used for signing Fedora packages. However, based on our efforts, we have high confidence that the intruder was not able to capture the passphrase used to secure the Fedora package signing key." and > By contrast, the Fedora-Red Hat announcements not only concealed > information, but gave users no way to investigate their own system for > problems, nor any means of protection beyond the negative one of not > installing or updating. Faced with a security problem, Red Hat reacted far > less like Debian and much more like Microsoft, which is notorious for > denying security problems until a patch is ready. No doubt it tried to > protect its corporate interests, but it did next to nothing for users. When > trouble came, FOSS interests and standards were apparently jettisoned in > favor of immediate business concerns. Now while I agree about the fact that RedHat/Fedora were slow to announce the reason behind the infrastructure outage, I remember clearly that RedHat released on the 22'nd of August (he ignored this or he wasn't aware of it) detailed information about the intrusion and a shell script for users to check if there systems were affected or if the openssh package was compromised quoting from RedHat: "this script lists the affected packages and can verify that none of them are installed on a system: ", and is the link http://www.redhat.com/security/data/openssh-blacklist.html I think someone should take the responsibility of replying to the author of this article just to correct his inaccuracies. Regards, Tarek 2008/9/10 ankur sinha > hi, > > I dont realy think the articles worth too much..Both sides handled the > situation as well as possible keeping boths interests in mind. Comaring it > with Debians situation isnt right.. > > regards, > > Ankur > > > --- On *Wed, 10/9/08, Shambo Bose * wrote: > > From: Shambo Bose > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Date: Wednesday, 10 September, 2008, 1:39 PM > > > > 2008/9/10 Peter Reuschlein > >> Tarek Taha schrieb: >> >>> >>> http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3770216/The+Fedora-Red+Hat+Crisis.htm >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >> >> Good Article, >> >> sorry but a +1 for me... Its nearly like i saw and still see the things >> running currently. >> >> regards >> Peter >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > NICE !!!! > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing listFedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.comhttps://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > ------------------------------ > Download prohibited? No problem. CHATfrom any browser, without download. > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- --------------------------------------------------- Tarek Taha Doctoral Candidate ARC Centre for Autonomous Systems University of Technology, Sydney ph: +61 2 9514 3147 web: http://www.tarektaha.com ---------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What testing tools were Fedora offered? Frank From shambo.linux at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 09:07:21 2008 From: shambo.linux at gmail.com (Shambo Bose) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:37:21 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] New Member introduction In-Reply-To: References: <75c598cb0809091003m43da716bydbc9a604ba14b8b4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > welcome > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you very much Francesco Ugolini From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Wed Sep 10 09:13:32 2008 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:13:32 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41208.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221038012.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> >> http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3770216/The+Fedora-Red+Hat+Crisis.htm > Please (to anyone) use fedora-mktg list if you want to post articles > about fedora. > Well, I do think this event concerns directly the Ambassadors (not that the link could not be *also* sent to the marketing list). ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Sep 10 09:31:33 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:31:33 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: <41208.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221038012.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> References: <41208.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221038012.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: 2008/9/10 Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) : >>> http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3770216/The+Fedora-Red+Hat+Crisis.htm >> Please (to anyone) use fedora-mktg list if you want to post articles >> about fedora. >> > Well, I do think this event concerns directly the Ambassadors (not that > the link could not be *also* sent to the marketing list). Ok. Mine was only an advice for everyone, just to prevent the proliferation of links posting. Maybe this one could fit our interests (thank you to Tarek), but meanwhile we have Marketing list to discuss about Marketing strategy, Public opinion and Press coverages. Ambassadors list is designed to help ambassadors organizing an event, to discuss about ambassadors policies (and Budget) and to give a wide support to them. I hope to have clarified my position. Regards Francesco Ugolini From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Sep 10 09:34:07 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:04:07 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: <1221037346.4460.12.camel@frank-01> References: <427488.626.qm@web8407.mail.in.yahoo.com> <1221037346.4460.12.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <48C7948F.8030404@fedoraproject.org> Frank Murphy wrote: > > Thats not Fedora. > What testing tools were Fedora offered? All official packages in Fedora and RHEL are signed and the gpg keys are different. Someone managed to sign packages in RHEL even though it wasn't pushed through the official RHN channels. From the various announcements, the infrastructure team believes that they have managed to take the infrastructure offline before anyone did something similar in Fedora and all new updates are being signed with a new key as a precautionary measure. Package management tools included with Fedora verify that all updates are signed with the key which is listed in the website for verification. So Fedora users shouldn't be needing any additional tools beyond what is already provided as part of the distribution. Rahul From mr.gopal.das at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 09:36:45 2008 From: mr.gopal.das at gmail.com (gopal das) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:06:45 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6f631c430809100236t5eb94291hdebe1885fa6664a9@mail.gmail.com> hi, If redhat has any intention to stop the fedora project then out project leader and steering committee members warns us about it. Its not like that I think. As well as we need not to get panic because fedora is one of the best community developed operating system at present (don't totally rely upon the rankings of any website just try do test of the stability of fedora with any community os and get your own result ). If you really want to do something then simply thanks to our whole fedora team including development, artwork, doc, package, free media, translate, test, and marketing, ambassadors and others who has been doing really excellent job and its seriously matter of worry for other community and even to proprietary software giants. One of our friends rightly quoted that "fedora always leads and never follows" Enjoy your fedora. Thank you. Gopal Das fedora India Ambassador 2008/9/10 Tarek Taha > > http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3770216/The+Fedora-Red+Hat+Crisis.htm > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From frankly3d at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 09:46:15 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:46:15 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: <48C7948F.8030404@fedoraproject.org> References: <427488.626.qm@web8407.mail.in.yahoo.com> <1221037346.4460.12.camel@frank-01> <48C7948F.8030404@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1221039975.4460.17.camel@frank-01> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 15:04 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: > > > > > Thats not Fedora. > > What testing tools were Fedora offered? > > So Fedora users shouldn't be needing any > additional tools beyond what is already provided as part of the > distribution. > > Rahul I was alluding to the fact at the *time*, many users even those on announce list, felt left in the dark. Again, I am reporting\repeating\re-iterating that *more* information, may be required if such an event happens again. Frank From sanjay_ankur at yahoo.co.in Wed Sep 10 09:49:28 2008 From: sanjay_ankur at yahoo.co.in (ankur sinha) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:19:28 +0530 (IST) Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: <1221039975.4460.17.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <438031.82470.qm@web8403.mail.in.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 10/9/08, Frank Murphy wrote: From: Frank Murphy Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis To: "Rahul Sundaram" Cc: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Date: Wednesday, 10 September, 2008, 3:16 PM On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 15:04 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: > > > > > Thats not Fedora. > > What testing tools were Fedora offered? > > So Fedora users shouldn't be needing any > additional tools beyond what is already provided as part of the > distribution. > > Rahul >>I was alluding to the fact at the *time*, many users even those on >>announce list, felt left in the dark. >>Again, I am reporting\repeating\re-iterating that *more* information, >>may be required if such an event happens again. >>Frank >>-- >>Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list +1 Frank , +1 Gopal regards, Ankur Get an email ID as yourname at ymail.com or yourname at rocketmail.com. 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Mine was only an advice for everyone, just to prevent the > proliferation of links posting. > +1 > Maybe this one could fit our interests (thank you to Tarek), but > meanwhile we have Marketing list to discuss about Marketing strategy, > Public opinion and Press coverages. +1 > > Ambassadors list is designed to help ambassadors organizing an event, > to discuss about ambassadors policies (and Budget) and to give a wide > support to them. > The post-link replies, have been in the main what was felt like lack of support for Ambassadors \others. Scenario: Non-Fedora linux user "What's going on with Fedora" Ambassador: "Don't update, otherwise NO idea" Frank From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Sep 10 10:00:58 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:30:58 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: <1221039975.4460.17.camel@frank-01> References: <427488.626.qm@web8407.mail.in.yahoo.com> <1221037346.4460.12.camel@frank-01> <48C7948F.8030404@fedoraproject.org> <1221039975.4460.17.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <48C79ADA.6080808@fedoraproject.org> Frank Murphy wrote: > > I was alluding to the fact at the *time*, many users even those on > announce list, felt left in the dark. > Again, I am reporting\repeating\re-iterating that *more* information, > may be required if such an event happens again. The current investigation is not over yet. It would be prudent to bring any specific concerns over this to Fedora Advisory Board list. Also refer https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Meetings/2008-09-09 Rahul From kushaldas at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 10:01:23 2008 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:31:23 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] The mailing list etiquette , a presentation Message-ID: <200809101531.23940.kushaldas@gmail.com> Hi all, People should try to follow this: http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/mailing-list-etiquette.pdf Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.in http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur) From frankly3d at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 10:14:19 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:14:19 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] The mailing list etiquette , a presentation In-Reply-To: <200809101531.23940.kushaldas@gmail.com> References: <200809101531.23940.kushaldas@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1221041659.4460.29.camel@frank-01> Plaintext would have been nice :D Frank From jbenedictlow at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 10:27:25 2008 From: jbenedictlow at gmail.com (Jason Benedict Low) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:27:25 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] The mailing list etiquette , a presentation In-Reply-To: <200809101531.23940.kushaldas@gmail.com> References: <200809101531.23940.kushaldas@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48C7A10D.4090604@gmail.com> Hi Kushal Das wrote: > Hi all, > > People should try to follow this: > > http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/mailing-list-etiquette.pdf > > Kushal > good. 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URL: From fzied at dottn.com Wed Sep 10 11:18:05 2008 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:18:05 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: References: <427488.626.qm@web8407.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 9/10/08, S.K. wrote: > > The article is nothing but pure hogwash. He's just trying to justify a > previous article of his for which he was criticized. The author has just > tried to give his argument a favourable turn for himself when, actually he > has no real proof. > > 2008/9/10 ankur sinha > >> hi, >> >> I dont realy think the articles worth too much..Both sides handled the >> situation as well as possible keeping boths interests in mind. Comaring it >> with Debians situation isnt right.. >> > I Totally agree, +1 regards, >> >> Ankur >> >> --- On *Wed, 10/9/08, Shambo Bose * wrote: >> >> From: Shambo Bose >> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis >> To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> Date: Wednesday, 10 September, 2008, 1:39 PM >> >> >> >> 2008/9/10 Peter Reuschlein >> >>> Tarek Taha schrieb: >>> >>>> >>>> http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3770216/The+Fedora-Red+Hat+Crisis.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>> >>> >>> Good Article, >>> >>> sorry but a +1 for me... Its nearly like i saw and still see the things >>> running currently. >>> >>> regards >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> >> NICE !!!! >> >> -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Download prohibited? No problem. CHATfrom any browser, without download. >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > S.K. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Zied Fakhfakh Dot TN - CTO Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis Tunisia T : +216 71 886112 F : +216 71 885499 M : +216 22 535604 W : http://www.dottn.com GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D2F4EE8C -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fzied at dottn.com Wed Sep 10 11:18:53 2008 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:18:53 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: References: <427488.626.qm@web8407.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 9/10/08, S.K. wrote: > > The article is nothing but pure hogwash. He's just trying to justify a > previous article of his for which he was criticized. The author has just > tried to give his argument a favourable turn for himself when, actually he > has no real proof. > I totally agree 2008/9/10 ankur sinha > >> hi, >> >> I dont realy think the articles worth too much..Both sides handled the >> situation as well as possible keeping boths interests in mind. Comaring it >> with Debians situation isnt right.. >> >> regards, >> >> Ankur >> >> --- On *Wed, 10/9/08, Shambo Bose * wrote: >> >> From: Shambo Bose >> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis >> To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> Date: Wednesday, 10 September, 2008, 1:39 PM >> >> >> >> 2008/9/10 Peter Reuschlein >> >>> Tarek Taha schrieb: >>> >>>> >>>> http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3770216/The+Fedora-Red+Hat+Crisis.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>> >>> >>> Good Article, >>> >>> sorry but a +1 for me... Its nearly like i saw and still see the things >>> running currently. >>> >>> regards >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> >> NICE !!!! >> >> -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Download prohibited? No problem. 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URL: From herlo1 at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 13:03:58 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:03:58 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMNA Meeting Minutes from 2008-09-09 Message-ID: 19:01 -!- herlo changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Ambassadors North America Meeting -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-09 -- Begins 19:01 < herlo> anyone here? 19:02 * lcafiero plays the role of Larry Cafiero 19:02 * DemonJester -> BrianPowell present 19:02 < lcafiero> Wasn't sure I was in the right place. 19:02 * ianweller lurkificates 19:04 * herlo will wait a moment or two 19:04 * DemonJester goes to grab a beer then :-) 19:05 < herlo> k 19:05 < lcafiero> Grab me one DemonJester 19:05 * herlo wants a Sierra Nevada 19:06 < herlo> ianweller: that kinda sounds gross 19:07 * DemonJester passes lcafiero a virtual cold one 19:07 < herlo> unless its like pontificates, which then I can live with it 19:07 < ianweller> it's like pontificates 19:07 < ianweller> ;) 19:07 < herlo> okay, whew! 19:07 < lcafiero> Heh. 19:08 < herlo> anyone know where ke4qqq is? I thought he'd be here 19:08 * herlo moves we start the meeting anyway 19:09 < herlo> First on the Agenda, as usual, tasks 19:09 < herlo> AmbassadorKit and EventBox 19:09 < herlo> AmbassadorKit is well defined I think, but EventBox had a lively discussion in #fedora-ambassadors a couple days ago 19:09 < herlo> any thoughts here? 19:10 < lcafiero> ! 19:10 < lcafiero> I missed that discussion. What was it about? 19:11 < herlo> well, the discussion wsa something to the effect of what would go into an EventBox 19:11 < lcafiero> Thanks. 19:11 * ke4qqq is late 19:11 < DemonJester> have we determined if we are going with the scaled down version as opposed to what was initially suggested? 19:11 < herlo> ke4qqq: welcome :) 19:11 < herlo> lcafiero: I wasn't done 19:12 < herlo> just wanted to start with something simple 19:12 < herlo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox 19:12 < herlo> this might be useful to start 19:12 < herlo> but I think the box is a bit more than we really need 19:12 < ke4qqq> the box itself? 19:13 < herlo> things like an LCD monitor and mouse and keyboard are almost a waste of space 19:13 < herlo> ke4qqq: no, things inside... 19:13 * herlo decides to be more verbose 19:13 < herlo> the LCD monitor, what is this used for? 19:14 < DemonJester> I suppose the mini pc if included? 19:14 < herlo> well, when I think of mini pc, I think of laptop since that's a bit easier 19:14 < crossbytes> we are talking about the event box? 19:14 < herlo> one thought is to make the mini pc be something that we can show off and build LiveUSBs with 19:15 < herlo> the EeePC is great for this 19:15 < DemonJester> +1 19:15 < herlo> crossbytes: yes 19:15 < herlo> I like the Pelican 1610, its a bit cheaper than the 1660 and a bit smaller. Should fit banners and all pretty well 19:16 < crossbytes> I agree about the Eee PC 19:16 < herlo> its cheap too, getting a 7" model could even be less nowadays since the 9" and 10" models are out 19:17 * herlo looks on ebay 19:17 < ke4qqq> whatever is free is great as small. - we have 4 xos....and are working on 4 small minis 19:17 < lcafiero> ? 19:17 < ke4qqq> hp and dell are working to get us free mini-pcs like minimate and dell 910 19:18 < herlo> ke4qqq: good call 19:18 < ke4qqq> inode is working with HP 19:18 < herlo> $225 is the highest bid btw 19:18 < ke4qqq> I contacted Matt Domsch 19:18 < herlo> right 19:18 < ke4qqq> and he is working to get us 4 of the tiny ones 19:19 < ke4qqq> but no idea on what the timeline or if it will fall through or not 19:19 < herlo> sure 19:19 < herlo> I was thinking I might just donate mine to the event box as I build it 19:20 < herlo> I want to get a 1000 anyway 19:21 < herlo> so lets see, we want to slim down the box itself. I'd like to see the price of shipping never clear $100 19:21 < herlo> if we ship in a reasonable amount of time (2-3wks) it should never be more than $50 19:21 < herlo> so weight can be an issue anyway 19:21 < ke4qqq> slim down to what?? sorry for missing some of the meeting 19:22 < herlo> slim down the size of the box itself 19:22 < herlo> you only missed about 2 minutes 19:22 < herlo> the contents and the size of the box 19:22 < ke4qqq> to what pelican 19:22 < herlo> remove stuff that's heavy, like the LCD 19:23 < herlo> the pelican 1610 looks promising, its a bit smaller than the 1660 listed 19:24 < herlo> http://tinyurl.com/pelican1610 19:24 * ke4qqq runs to look 19:24 < herlo> http://tinyurl.com/pelican1660 19:25 < herlo> without foam its $160 19:25 < herlo> retail from the pelican store itself too 19:25 < ke4qqq> that's not bad 19:26 < herlo> yeah 19:27 < herlo> so that lowers the price quite a bit, and I think I can purchase one of those this weekend 19:27 < ke4qqq> if we can get the media money I might allocate some of that money from my events. 19:28 < herlo> nah, I'm just going to use the UTOSC 2008 money I have left over (and some of my own) to make this happen 19:28 < ke4qqq> cool! 19:28 < herlo> well, at least what I can 19:28 < herlo> but it should happen before I have to ship things to OLF 19:29 < herlo> iWolf: so when do I need to send this off to you btw? 19:29 < herlo> I also will be purchasing a couple small tubes for the fedora banners. These should easily fit in the eventbox 19:31 < herlo> okay, so any other thoughts? 19:31 < ke4qqq> I have some large 4 foot tall tubes for shipping 19:31 < ke4qqq> and perhaps others. 19:31 < herlo> too big, they need to fit into the Pelican 1610 :( 19:31 * ke4qqq makes note to task self to ask his marketing dept about that. 19:31 < ke4qqq> ahhhh ok 19:31 < ke4qqq> I though we had talked about shipping separately 19:31 < herlo> yeah, but it seems they aren't very big 19:31 < herlo> they currently fit in the box I have at home 19:31 < ke4qqq> ahhhh ok 19:32 < ke4qqq> outstanding 19:32 < herlo> its about the same size, I'll have to measure this weekend 19:32 < herlo> k, so it seems there's some good progress here 19:32 < herlo> pelican 1610 (probably) 19:32 < herlo> an XO and some small Lappy for making LiveUSBs 19:33 < ke4qqq> what else can we do to get this one jumpstarted for this one. 19:33 < herlo> Wireless Router and ethernet cables 19:33 < herlo> power strips 19:33 < herlo> ke4qqq: we need to find the fedora tablecloth or buy another one 19:33 < herlo> the fedora banners and posters will go in the box np 19:34 < herlo> hooks, pens, markers, any leftover swag. 19:34 < herlo> do we think this will all fit? 19:34 < herlo> basically, I want to remove items 5-8 from the current EventBox page 19:35 < ke4qqq> please do so. 19:35 < herlo> well, I think we need to build our own page, or create our own version for NA 19:36 < ke4qqq> is there a reason why?? 19:36 < ke4qqq> I mean the page as it is was stolen from gnome 19:36 < herlo> yes, because I think this is what EMEA currently uses 19:36 < herlo> I knew that too 19:37 < herlo> I mean, I'm happy to adjust the page, just don't want to change it if others are using it 19:37 < ke4qqq> when was it last modified? 19:38 < herlo> July this year by quaid 19:38 < herlo> looks like it wsa just created in May by iWolf 19:38 < herlo> oh wait 19:38 < herlo> haha, migration 19:39 < herlo> Fab made some chagnes in May too, might have been just formatting 19:39 < herlo> pretty much looks the same though 19:39 < ke4qqq> I say edit boldly 19:39 < herlo> and since there's no history before may, dunno 19:39 < herlo> k, will do 19:40 < herlo> moving forward, any complaints? 19:41 < DemonJester> looks / sounds good 19:41 < herlo> k, so moving forward 19:42 < herlo> AmbassadorKit now has a FUDCon F11 Boston Hackfest 19:42 * inode0 arrives late 19:42 < herlo> the idea is to have the Art folks help us a little to design a piece of paper that we can fold into a box 19:42 < ke4qqq> who is showing up from ART? 19:42 < herlo> as well as finalize the design of what it should look like when finished. 19:42 < ke4qqq> mizmo isn't 19:42 < herlo> ke4qqq: dunno 19:43 < herlo> ke4qqq: mizmo lives in Boston 19:43 < herlo> I'll go to her house and have her help me :) 19:43 < herlo> lol 19:43 < inode0> mizmo will be at FUDcon 19:43 < ke4qqq> ignore me I am thinking of olf 19:43 < herlo> ok 19:43 < herlo> whew 19:43 < herlo> but there will be others, tw2113 might be there 19:44 < ke4qqq> cool 19:45 < herlo> ianweller might be there, but it'll be tough for him 19:45 < ianweller> if someone pays for me to, i'll most likely go 19:45 < ianweller> ;) 19:46 < ianweller> tw2113 said it'll be hard for him to get to a boston fudcon 19:46 < herlo> yeah 19:46 < ianweller> herlo: i saw that hackfest, i'm quite interested. tee hee 19:46 < herlo> w00t! 19:46 < herlo> ianweller: we're gonna rock boston 19:46 * herlo has to figure out how to get there now 19:46 < ianweller> herlo: swim 19:47 < herlo> lol, from Utah? 19:47 < ianweller> YES. :P 19:47 < herlo> very little ocean or rivers from there in that direction, but I'll try :) 19:47 < ianweller> yeah you're on the west of the rockies, it'd be difficult 19:47 < herlo> so I think we plan on hacking all day on Friday and Sunday we go out and purchase some stuff in Boston to make what we need 19:48 < herlo> maybe we come up with the art, and send it to printers so on sunday we can test it out 19:48 * ianweller is thinking of a box design in his head already 19:48 < ianweller> how big is the box supposed to be? have we gotten that far yet? 19:48 < herlo> stickers and pins, tshirsts, etc can be added and maybe we could even find a shrink wrap place close by 19:48 < herlo> ianweller: yes, hang on, I'll find you a link 19:49 < ianweller> if we need we can substitute zip-loc baggies for shrink wrap. 19:49 < herlo> true 19:49 < herlo> hair dryers are in most hotels :) 19:50 < herlo> ianweller: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService#AmbassadorKit_Box 19:50 < herlo> its been sitting there for a while. I've not yet bugged Art but once about it 19:50 < herlo> more bugging to come in the near future :) 19:51 < herlo> okay, moving forward, already 50 minutes in 19:51 < ianweller> heh 19:51 < herlo> any objections? 19:52 * ianweller goes back to lurking 19:53 < herlo> FAMSCO mediea discussion, did this happen yet? 19:53 < herlo> s/iea/ia/ 19:53 < ke4qqq> think iwolf is pushing that forward 19:54 < herlo> k, I heard that we might be lower than .576 too, but not yet, so that number is solid though 19:54 < ke4qqq> but we essentially still need to come up with the money 19:54 < ke4qqq> substantially lower? 19:55 < herlo> well, when you are talking 3000 discs, .005 can make a big difference 19:55 < herlo> so maybe 19:55 < herlo> lets keep that one here for now though, $.576 19:55 < ke4qqq> k 19:55 < herlo> moving forward again, objections? 19:55 < herlo> Blogging about FAD and FAD planning 19:56 < herlo> I failed you all by not bloggin yet about FAd, I'll do that this coming week 19:56 < herlo> its probably not a bad idea to spread it out a little 19:56 < ke4qqq> we had some movement but not all of them - inode0 can you ping jtaber about that?? he still needs to get on the planet. 19:56 < ke4qqq> yep 19:56 < herlo> is there anything we need to do to help iWolf plan this event? 19:57 < lcafiero> I'm not on the planet yet either. 19:57 < ke4qqq> yes lcafiero you are on my list too 19:57 < herlo> well, we can solve that tonight lcafiero 19:57 < herlo> :) 19:57 < lcafiero> Says a lot for me . . . :-) 19:57 < ke4qqq> iWolf essentially wants us to run the thing 19:57 < herlo> k 19:57 < ke4qqq> since he will be busy with olf 19:57 < herlo> so we need an agenda and a plan for getting together thenright? 19:58 < ke4qqq> yep 19:58 < herlo> k, is there a wiki page on this? 19:58 < ke4qqq> yes 19:59 < herlo> ke4qqq: you, me and inode0 need to sit down this/next week and hammer this out then 19:59 < ke4qqq> ok will have do this later in the week 20:00 < ke4qqq> I am traveling tomorrow 20:00 < ke4qqq> perhaps thursday evening? 20:00 < herlo> thursday should work 20:00 < herlo> or we can do it next week too 20:01 < ke4qqq> inode0: ? 20:01 * inode0 busy again with family matters, sorry 20:01 < ke4qqq> ok next week then 20:01 < herlo> inode0: monday next week work for you? 20:01 < herlo> early evening probably 20:02 < herlo> ke4qqq: you too 20:04 < herlo> k, we'll table that 20:04 < herlo> moving on? 20:04 < ke4qqq> ok 20:05 < herlo> I think that's it for tasks, there's planet aggregation we already discussed, then I don't have any updates on the shipping policy, but will soon 20:05 < herlo> polos?? 20:06 < DemonJester> I havent received an invoice yet so I dont know if they were ordered last thurs or not. 20:06 < ke4qqq> pascal supposedly ordered on 9/4 20:06 < ke4qqq> neither have I 20:06 < DemonJester> he normally fronts the money up front and invoices later.. At least he did last order 20:07 < herlo> yep he did 20:07 < herlo> I got one and stickster said they look really nice 20:07 < herlo> he saw mine at UTOSC 20:07 < DemonJester> they are nice. 20:08 < herlo> yes they are 20:09 < ke4qqq> did larry talk about media? 20:09 < inode0> back, I can be available for FAD planning whenever - looking forward to it 20:10 < herlo> k, sounds godo 20:10 < herlo> k, open floor 20:10 < herlo> unless you guys wanna discuss the polos more 20:11 < herlo> I have a couple things 20:11 < DemonJester> I have a quick question after you are done 20:12 < herlo> k 20:12 < herlo> So here's my thoughts 20:12 < herlo> one is, what happened to the logging of the meetings? I know that ke4qqq asked me about a way to make the wiki create agenda templates for us, shouldn't be to hard I suppose 20:13 < herlo> I looked on the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings#Next_Meeting page , and nothign is there since early August 20:13 < herlo> we should really try to keep this info there, unless its stored elsewhere? 20:13 < inode0> I thought we were going to post logs to f-a-l and links to the archives on the meeting pages?! 20:13 < herlo> right 20:14 < herlo> but I don't see the links on the meeting pages 20:14 < herlo> nor do I see follow ups on the main meeting page itself that points to those meeting pages 20:14 < herlo> how are people to get to the meeting minutes if we don't have a link on the wiki? 20:14 < herlo> I'm not trying to criticize too much, just trying to solidify the process 20:15 < inode0> no, it would definitely be good to have links to the archives 20:15 < herlo> and if I am wrong, please beat me 20:15 < herlo> :) 20:15 < inode0> or post them both places to start with, either way 20:16 < DemonJester> I can go back and fix some of that later this week(end) and add the links etc if you want 20:16 < herlo> w00t thanks DemonJester 20:16 < herlo> I think that's really great 20:16 < herlo> okay, so the other thing is that we need to make sure to update the task list every week, no real biggie, but if someone would do that during the meeting ?? 20:16 < inode0> going forward let's just add that task to whoever posts them to the mailing list - simple enough 20:17 < herlo> k, sounds good 20:17 < herlo> what about the task list? or is that what you are referring? 20:17 < inode0> agreed, next report on task X is three weeks ago isn't good :) 20:18 < herlo> k, DemonJester you had something? 20:18 < DemonJester> yep 20:19 < inode0> my last comment was about putting the links on the meeting page in conjunction with sending the mail to f-a-l 20:19 < herlo> pls share 20:19 < herlo> inode0: great 20:19 < DemonJester> is there a specific place where we can get stickers from or do we get them printed locally ourself? 20:20 < herlo> this has been up for discussion many times, dont' think we have a decision except bf 20:20 < herlo> and I don't know thta they even have any 20:20 < DemonJester> okay I will check into local sources for what I need for now. 20:20 < inode0> I think the plan is to get a boatload printed - but it is slow going 20:21 < herlo> I think we shoudl put this on the task list actually 20:21 < DemonJester> wasnt the store sig for this type of thing? I havent seen any meetings about that though since I joined the group 20:21 < inode0> seems like I recall some marketing meetings where this has been discussed extensively 20:23 < DemonJester> thats all I had. 20:24 < herlo> DemonJester: store sig is mostly not going right now, but I hope to see that increase soon 20:24 < herlo> inode0: that's good to hear. I can't make those meetings as they are right in the middle of my work day (aka teaching) 20:24 < inode0> here is what I recall hearing last time I attended 20:25 < inode0> mo had a good price on sheets of stickers and was asked to get some additional quotes for smaller runs 20:25 < inode0> then maybe a run of 250 or 500 sheets would be done to quality check 20:25 < inode0> if they are nice go for a really large order 20:26 < inode0> no idea on how those would be distributed though 20:26 < herlo> inode0: next time in proxy for me, can you see about bumper sticker style (actually 1x3) because I think those would go over well. 20:27 < herlo> and if we can't do something like we're planning with media? 20:28 < inode0> 1x3 in what units? 20:28 < herlo> best production costs 20:28 < herlo> probably 1k/quarter at minimum 20:29 < herlo> good for AmbassadorKits 20:31 < herlo> any other comments? 20:31 < herlo> EOM then? 20:32 < herlo> 10 20:32 < herlo> 9 20:32 < herlo> 8 20:32 < herlo> 7 20:32 < herlo> 6 20:32 < herlo> 5 20:32 < herlo> 4 20:32 < herlo> 3 20:32 < herlo> 2 20:32 < herlo> 1 20:32 < herlo> EOF From herlo1 at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 13:24:59 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:24:59 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMNA Meeting Summary from 2008-09-09 Message-ID: FAMNA: Meeting 2008-09-09 EventBox Structure coming along Updates to the EventBox wiki page Removed mini pc and LCD display in favor of XO and an EEEPC like machine for usb creation station. Discussed the benefits of the Pelican 1610 vs Pelican 1660 Boxes. Herlo indicated that he had a bit of extra money and would probably purchase the 1610 next week. http://tinyurl.com/pelican1610 http://tinyurl.com/pelican1660 FUDCon F11 AmbassadorKit Hackfest Build an AmbassadorKit by EOD Friday https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/AmbassadorKit The DesignService request has been made, so this should be something we can coordinate with the Art team. FAD at OLF was discussed Plan was to meet next Monday to discuss an agenda Ought to have some cool artwork created for this soon. Probably ought to have something fun to do while there as well. Maybe some sort of entertainment. Stickers request by DemonJester Conversations in Marketing are ongoing He said he'd do research for his part this time. Better logging of meetings on wiki Agreed that logger should update meeting agenda and links on Ambassadors/Meetings page. DemonJester offered to update the Meetings page with links to catch up on the archive. Ke4qqq suggested (previous to the meeting) that the pages be automatically created. This could benefit any group that holds meetings. Anything I missed? All of this detail will be available shortly at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-09 Cheers, Clint From steven.moix at axianet.ch Wed Sep 10 13:34:34 2008 From: steven.moix at axianet.ch (Steven Moix) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:34:34 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self-Introduction: Steven Moix Message-ID: <1221053674.15099.10.camel@hp6710.axianet.ch> Hi all, This may be somewhat of a double post for the ones also on the Fedora Marketing SIG list. So have a look at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2008-September/msg00044.html for my introduction. Why join the ambassador team: As pointed out on the Marketing SIG mailinglist, I want to raise Fedora awareness on the French web. Besides that, there is something to be done in my university and that's why I joined as an ambassador. My needs should be quite low, probably some DVDs and Posters. Any comments? PS: I'm also on the fedora-fr-list Have a nice day Steven Moix https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StevenMoix From wonderer4711 at gmx.de Wed Sep 10 13:36:17 2008 From: wonderer4711 at gmx.de (wonderer) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:36:17 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] The mailing list etiquette , a presentation In-Reply-To: <200809101531.23940.kushaldas@gmail.com> References: <200809101531.23940.kushaldas@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48C7CD51.5050804@gmx.de> Hy, > People should try to follow this: > > http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/mailing-list-etiquette.pdf > Good work. BUT I miss 2 little things :-) * The Author does'n mentioned his or her contact Info in the pdf (that plaintext had been better was always mentioned...). So I can't contact him or her for the following improvement... * That people on Mailinglists should not use Auto-Replys, Vacation-Messages, etc. if they use a Mailinglist. Therefore should be used a "normal" Mailadress. best regards Henrik From wonderer4711 at gmx.de Wed Sep 10 13:42:19 2008 From: wonderer4711 at gmx.de (wonderer) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:42:19 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self-Introduction: Steven Moix In-Reply-To: <1221053674.15099.10.camel@hp6710.axianet.ch> References: <1221053674.15099.10.camel@hp6710.axianet.ch> Message-ID: <48C7CEBB.1020906@gmx.de> Hy Steven, welcome here as well. best regards Henrik https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:HenrikHeigl Steven Moix schrieb: > Hi all, > > This may be somewhat of a double post for the ones also on the Fedora > Marketing SIG list. So have a look at > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2008-September/msg00044.html for my introduction. > > Why join the ambassador team: > As pointed out on the Marketing SIG mailinglist, I want to raise Fedora awareness on the French web. > Besides that, there is something to be done in my university and that's why I joined as an ambassador. > My needs should be quite low, probably some DVDs and Posters. > > Any comments? > > PS: I'm also on the fedora-fr-list > > Have a nice day > > Steven Moix > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StevenMoix > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > From lajjr at yahoo.com Wed Sep 10 14:42:53 2008 From: lajjr at yahoo.com (Leo Jackson) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] It too big to be killed Message-ID: <814324.10328.qm@web84308.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I have watched fedora since 11/2003. I have been using Linux since Richard Stallman GNU project 1984 he is the father of these comparison systems , Linus Torvalds 1991 and the main kernel this will never die this is the core and Linus is the father of the kernel. Just to fore say purpose. If red hat said well I want to cancel fedora due to what ever reason. Just think about SUSE, OPENSUSE etc. Fedora with all the followers it has would separate and still grow. Linux just doesn't die. Leo Albert Jackson Jr Owner Head Programmer LJ's Electronics and Software From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 17:17:54 2008 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:17:54 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: <1221040690.4460.22.camel@frank-01> References: <41208.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221038012.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <1221040690.4460.22.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <7a0d56080809101017q2127cbaanada1bea83436b703@mail.gmail.com> > > Scenario: Non-Fedora linux user "What's going on with Fedora" > Ambassador: "Don't update, otherwise NO idea" I'm not sure this is an accurate assessment. Clearly the first memo from Paul outlined a security breach, so if that's not reason enough NOT to update until further notice, perhaps you can inform me what is? From frankly3d at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 17:27:00 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:27:00 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080809101017q2127cbaanada1bea83436b703@mail.gmail.com> References: <41208.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221038012.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <1221040690.4460.22.camel@frank-01> <7a0d56080809101017q2127cbaanada1bea83436b703@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1221067620.4460.41.camel@frank-01> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 10:17 -0700, Larry Cafiero wrote: > > > > Scenario: Non-Fedora linux user "What's going on with Fedora" > > Ambassador: "Don't update, otherwise NO idea" > > I'm not sure this is an accurate assessment. Clearly the first memo > from Paul outlined a security breach, so if that's not reason enough > NOT to update until further notice, perhaps you can inform me what is? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-August/msg00008.html https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-August/msg00009.html https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-August/msg00011.html No idea what your looking at. Frank -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 17:41:28 2008 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:41:28 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: <1221067620.4460.41.camel@frank-01> References: <41208.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221038012.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <1221040690.4460.22.camel@frank-01> <7a0d56080809101017q2127cbaanada1bea83436b703@mail.gmail.com> <1221067620.4460.41.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <7a0d56080809101041i728e6f73l440031f3ccb5ce6b@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 10:17 -0700, Larry Cafiero wrote: >> > >> > Scenario: Non-Fedora linux user "What's going on with Fedora" >> > Ambassador: "Don't update, otherwise NO idea" >> >> I'm not sure this is an accurate assessment. Clearly the first memo >> from Paul outlined a security breach, so if that's not reason enough >> NOT to update until further notice, perhaps you can inform me what is? > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-August/msg00008.html > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-August/msg00009.html > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-August/msg00011.html > > > No idea what your looking at. > > Frank The same thing you are, Frank -- "an issue in the infrastructure systems" where nine times out of ten, this "issue" means something security related. From frankly3d at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 17:59:15 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:59:15 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080809101041i728e6f73l440031f3ccb5ce6b@mail.gmail.com> References: <41208.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221038012.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <1221040690.4460.22.camel@frank-01> <7a0d56080809101017q2127cbaanada1bea83436b703@mail.gmail.com> <1221067620.4460.41.camel@frank-01> <7a0d56080809101041i728e6f73l440031f3ccb5ce6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1221069555.4460.56.camel@frank-01> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 10:41 -0700, Larry Cafiero wrote: > > The same thing you are, Frank -- "an issue in the infrastructure > systems" where nine times out of ten, this "issue" means something > security related. Maybe after the fact thats true. But, and think on this. If even users got a jist of a security problem. 1: Has it affected *my\our system? 2: If 1, what should I test for? 3: English is not my 1st language, what does "an issue in the infrastructure". Maybe a hard-disk dies some corrupt files. 3b: I speak english but no idea "an issue.." mean 4: If it's so easy Larry, why were so many question asked on both the user-list and the IRC #fedora. Fedora users come from all backgrounds etc., and though a daunting task. use language that is understood. What is wrong with: "Feoraproject servers, may have been hacked, the team is looking at it. In the meanwhile run ssh, rootkit, gcalc, call the fire-brigade (light-hearted bit). or any other test I haven't a clue about. BUT, give the user something to alleviate uncertainty. Frank -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From jkeating at redhat.com Wed Sep 10 19:26:53 2008 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:26:53 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: <1221069555.4460.56.camel@frank-01> References: <41208.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221038012.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <1221040690.4460.22.camel@frank-01> <7a0d56080809101017q2127cbaanada1bea83436b703@mail.gmail.com> <1221067620.4460.41.camel@frank-01> <7a0d56080809101041i728e6f73l440031f3ccb5ce6b@mail.gmail.com> <1221069555.4460.56.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <1221074813.3388.160.camel@luminos.localdomain> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 18:59 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > > 1: Has it affected *my\our system? > 2: If 1, what should I test for? 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From frankly3d at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 20:53:52 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:53:52 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: <1221074813.3388.160.camel@luminos.localdomain> References: <41208.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221038012.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <1221040690.4460.22.camel@frank-01> <7a0d56080809101017q2127cbaanada1bea83436b703@mail.gmail.com> <1221067620.4460.41.camel@frank-01> <7a0d56080809101041i728e6f73l440031f3ccb5ce6b@mail.gmail.com> <1221069555.4460.56.camel@frank-01> <1221074813.3388.160.camel@luminos.localdomain> Message-ID: <1221080032.4460.67.camel@frank-01> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 12:26 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > 1: Has it affected *my\our system? > 2: If 1, what should I test for? > > You assume we knew/know that. > > -- No, it was a direct response to Larry assertion that the 1st announce, intimated a security breach. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00231.html "clearly the first memo from Paul outlined a security breach" Which as the thread goes, I did not get that assertion, my assumption was that not enough, info was given out. You as in the community, does not want to create a panic, but silence\ lack of communication can be a panic in itself. Frank -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From david at gnsa.us Wed Sep 10 22:11:07 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:11:07 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Report: University of South Carolina - School of Technology Support and Training Management Message-ID: Quick event report from today: A bit of background - At the Palmetto Open Source Software Conference I met a professor at the University of South Carolina who had been having some of her classes do documentation for OpenOffice.org among other projects. I talked with her and suggested that Fedora was a natural fit for her class since the project was large enough to be significant, and also our release cycles were such that students could see some fruit to their work before a semester ended and they left the class. She seemed excited about the potential, and invited me to speak. I arrived and talked a bit with the professor before class started, and she dropped a bombshell on me, that she had 'assigned' 4 students to work on fp.o docs. Apparently these were students who were technically competent, and excited and actually asked to work on writing Linux documentation when they heard of the opportunity. Two of the students have used Fedora for varying lengths of time. I ran through a quick introduction to Fedora and Open Source in general and showed off the OLPC XO (which incidentally I had to 'rent' for this occasion, but have no fear, I understand the NA Ambassadors are going to be allocated some in the not too distant future) I passed the unit around and it received lots of oohs and aahs. I handed out LiveCDs to each person at the event. I answered questions for about 30 minutes, and then the prof. introduced me to the 4 students and suggested I talk about what projects were available for them to work on. Quaid has been working on a list of tasks for docs projects - so I proposed all of those - and then they asked me if we were doing videos/screencasts as well. I showed them some of the Fedora TV listings and pointed them to [[Screencasting]] After reviewing the tasks they seem to like the "Bugzilla for New Users" idea, and might do a screencast to go along with the document. We also talked about potential OLPC documentation projects - but honestly I need to get a list of those tasks from Greg. In addition to those 4, there was one more student who wasn't in the class, but heard that I was coming and showed up to listen. I am going to work on getting him involved as well, though not necessarily with docs. There were also 3 other professors who came to listen about this 'newfangled F/LOSS thing'. Overall I think it was a success - she's limited the group to 4 students this semester just to see how it works - but last semester it appears that 1/2 of her class did OO.o docs - so we can certainly grow this. After the class was over I talked with the professor a bit more and we talked about educational theory - and she is of the opinion that education in general is drifting away from the theory over experience model. She also said that a significant problem in education is that teachers don't know technology even when it is vital to their ability to successfully educate, and students are passing them by. I told her that we had recently discussed finding a way of having some sort of educator training to expose teachers to the latest and greatest in technology and open source and how it benefits them, and why they should embrace it. She then informed me that she sits on the board for the South Carolina Business Educators Association which involves high school and college instructors. She asked me if I was interested in speaking at their annual conference in February and exposing some of these things to their members. She indicated that she'd work to get me a speaking slot, but of course can't act alone. So we'll see how that turns out. As it turns out she did her doctoral thesis on community interactions within education - and she said that what was visible from the outside of Fedora was fascinating and that it might make an interesting study at some point in the future. At the end of the day we should have at least 4 new contributors (at least for a semester) and we certainly have an opportunity to grow that, both with the students now and those in the future. Blog posting with pictures will be forthcoming, but it might be tomorrow before it gets pushed out. From a.mani.cms at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 22:18:55 2008 From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 03:48:55 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: <1221080032.4460.67.camel@frank-01> References: <41208.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221038012.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <1221040690.4460.22.camel@frank-01> <7a0d56080809101017q2127cbaanada1bea83436b703@mail.gmail.com> <1221067620.4460.41.camel@frank-01> <7a0d56080809101041i728e6f73l440031f3ccb5ce6b@mail.gmail.com> <1221069555.4460.56.camel@frank-01> <1221074813.3388.160.camel@luminos.localdomain> <1221080032.4460.67.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <78323d480809101518p418361cdy16bbd84a1ef9d7bf@mail.gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00231.html > "clearly the first memo from Paul outlined a security breach" > > Which as the thread goes, I did not get that assertion, my assumption > was that not enough, info was given out. You as in the community, does > not want to create a panic, but silence\ lack of communication can be a > panic in itself. > Clearly the infrastructure and security team need to have a proper set of rules for use in crisis management. More so, when the structure of the crisis can be predicted by the book. Just saying that it is necessary to 'communicate more' is not enough. Best A. Mani -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://getfiregpg.org iD8DBQFIyEhsoIK4BlImohYRAuCmAKCMp2GUh8vcGLU+NHa/JIJlo0vnJACgoYs3 xTk76mJscwE+PBu+ASltXxU= =zkzW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc From linux.charged at gmail.com Thu Sep 11 00:39:11 2008 From: linux.charged at gmail.com (Junior Tomazelli) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:39:11 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Self-Introduction: Steven Moix In-Reply-To: <48C7CEBB.1020906@gmx.de> References: <1221053674.15099.10.camel@hp6710.axianet.ch> <48C7CEBB.1020906@gmx.de> Message-ID: Welcome. -- Wolnei C?ndido Tomazelli Junior (Charged) Brazil Fedora Ambassador Designer and TI E-mail : linux.charged at gmail.com Linux User #477062 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at gnsa.us Thu Sep 11 20:03:10 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:03:10 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Event Report: University of South Carolina - School of Technology Support and Training Management In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As a followup to this, Paul referenced this in an email on the Open Source in Education list. Shortly thereafter I received an email from Tim Budd at Oregon State University with an invitation to come present the Fedora Project. While that is terribly exciting I don't know that I am the best person, though I would love to go. My concerns are this: 1. This entire education thing - is blossoming into a significant opportunity and is on the verge of causing me concern from a level of work involved. Right now I have invites from 4 universities in South Carolina for this semester and already some invitations to return for next semester. That alone is a significant chunk of work - not to mention that some of these universities are toying with the idea of using open source software in their coursework - be it tech writing classes writing documentation, or other things like Seneca is doing. Having to get involved and serve as mentors and do introductions, etc. 2. I am on the East coast - Oregon is on the West coast - so there is some significant distance there, but travel time, plus travel expense makes that a heady investment. (and perhaps OSU pays for travel - but I tend to doubt it) So I am interested in opening back up this education conversation - particularly since there is work to be done. From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 11 21:39:30 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:39:30 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 Release Parties preparatory meeting Message-ID: FAmSCo thinks it's time to start working concretely over F10 Release Parties organization. We are really happy to read your feedbacks about this important, worldwide-based, initiative. As many of you know Release Parties are at the end of a long and hard developing and testing process, and they give people the chance to taste personally the power of the new Fedora release mixing the technical side with the party side. During the next week or maybe in the after one I think it could be helpful to organize a meeting with the Release Events owners and contributors, to better understand the status of each event and to give FAmSCo the possibility to understand how to distribute resources among these ones. I want to know when you will be able to talk about this, maybe next Tuesday (one day before FAmSCo weekly meeting) at 21.00 UTC? If I couldn't be able to attend another FAmSCo member will lead the meeting and will answer your question. These are some interesting links: - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseParty/F10 : this page contains the Release Events list - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/Organization : this page contains a lot of informations about the organization of a Release Event Hoping you'll enjoy this experience Best Regards Francesco Ugolini From kwade at redhat.com Thu Sep 11 22:18:09 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:18:09 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Event Report: University of South Carolina - School of Technology Support and Training Management In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1221171489.3331.152.camel@calliope.phig.org> On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 16:03 -0400, David Nalley wrote: > As a followup to this, Paul referenced this in an email on the Open > Source in Education list. Shortly thereafter I received an email from > Tim Budd at Oregon State University with an invitation to come present > the Fedora Project. Yeah, couple of thoughts came to mind, which was why I thought we'd best have this discussion here. * Tim Budd has been exposed to Fedora folks in various ways, and I wanted to be sure we were coordinating working with him and his group; * For the most part, one Ambassador is the same as another. I'd like to make sure that we spread the contact/talk/present modes around to everyone. Reasons: spread the load to make it easier to bear, thus more fun floats to the surface; spread the fame to prevent painful cults of personality :); make it easier to spread and scale to all the potential opportunities. Having more folks trained and experienced helps all of that. * The West Coast is really big and we don't have good inter-city transportation. For big travel, we should combine and focus around the main regional events (LFNW, UTOSC, SCALE, etc.) * There *are* folks from Oregon on this list and around; hopefully they'll get excited about doing more regionally. * Larry Cafiero is working with some folks on a Lindependence event in Oregon, so maybe that can coincide. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Frields) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:16:26 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Event Report: University of South Carolina - School of Technology Support and Training Management In-Reply-To: <1221171489.3331.152.camel@calliope.phig.org> References: <1221171489.3331.152.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: <1221174986.4936.49.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 15:18 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 16:03 -0400, David Nalley wrote: > > As a followup to this, Paul referenced this in an email on the Open > > Source in Education list. Shortly thereafter I received an email from > > Tim Budd at Oregon State University with an invitation to come present > > the Fedora Project. > > Yeah, couple of thoughts came to mind, which was why I thought we'd best > have this discussion here. > > * Tim Budd has been exposed to Fedora folks in various ways, and I > wanted to be sure we were coordinating working with him and his group; > > * For the most part, one Ambassador is the same as another. I'd like to > make sure that we spread the contact/talk/present modes around to > everyone. Reasons: spread the load to make it easier to bear, thus > more fun floats to the surface; spread the fame to prevent painful cults > of personality :); make it easier to spread and scale to all the > potential opportunities. Having more folks trained and experienced > helps all of that. > > * The West Coast is really big and we don't have good inter-city > transportation. For big travel, we should combine and focus around the > main regional events (LFNW, UTOSC, SCALE, etc.) > > * There *are* folks from Oregon on this list and around; hopefully > they'll get excited about doing more regionally. > > * Larry Cafiero is working with some folks on a Lindependence event in > Oregon, so maybe that can coincide. John Poelstra, the Fedora Program Manager, lives in the Portland area. He might be interested in doing the presentation if needed -- it's low drag and high impact. He's always around on IRC and I'm sure he'll get in touch if he thinks he could be available for it. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Here is where we can work on the proposal text: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CUE_Conf_2009_proposal_draft Let's collaborate, either here, via the wiki, or via IRC (#fedora-ambassadors.) For a safe margin, let's set a deadline of 1900 UTC Friday. I am going to need to finish my part by ~1500 UTC. Interested? Thoughts? - Karsten [1] I'm thinking primarily of NA Ambassadors in the Western region, such as the Bay Area, Southern California, or crazy folk from farther who just like to travel. A single car of us from the Yay Area could be a fair fare. That's also pretty close to SCALE 7x, which we need a separate thread about. :) -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We are really happy to read your feedbacks about > this important, worldwide-based, initiative. > > As many of you know Release Parties are at the end of a long and hard > developing and testing process, and they give people the chance to > taste personally the power of the new Fedora release mixing the > technical side with the party side. > > During the next week or maybe in the after one I think it could be > helpful to organize a meeting with the Release Events owners and > contributors, to better understand the status of each event and to > give FAmSCo the possibility to understand how to distribute resources > among these ones. > > I want to know when you will be able to talk about this, maybe next > Tuesday (one day before FAmSCo weekly meeting) at 21.00 UTC? > > If I couldn't be able to attend another FAmSCo member will lead the > meeting and will answer your question. > > These are some interesting links: > > - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseParty/F10 : this > page contains the Release Events list > - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/Organization : this page > contains a lot of informations about the organization of a Release > Event > > Hoping you'll enjoy this experience > > Best Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 01:39:53 2008 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:39:53 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 Release Parties preparatory meeting In-Reply-To: <7cb778c60809111832p4a03b0a1i83bb3f790326e662@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60809111832p4a03b0a1i83bb3f790326e662@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7a0d56080809111839l587b20f7vc2d0a6a2a0098219@mail.gmail.com> The Cabrillo College GNU/Linux Users Group in Aptos, California, U.S.A., will have a F10 Release Party at the group's biweekly Friday installfest as soon as it is released. To arrange this, I'd like to know if there's any idea when F10 will be ready (within a couple of weeks would be fine). Larry Cafiero On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > My Release Party and Install fest is on dec 2008. Do i need to attend > the meeting which is proposed on tuesday. Please clarify me. > > On 9/12/08, Francesco Ugolini wrote: >> FAmSCo thinks it's time to start working concretely over F10 Release >> Parties organization. We are really happy to read your feedbacks about >> this important, worldwide-based, initiative. >> >> As many of you know Release Parties are at the end of a long and hard >> developing and testing process, and they give people the chance to >> taste personally the power of the new Fedora release mixing the >> technical side with the party side. >> >> During the next week or maybe in the after one I think it could be >> helpful to organize a meeting with the Release Events owners and >> contributors, to better understand the status of each event and to >> give FAmSCo the possibility to understand how to distribute resources >> among these ones. >> >> I want to know when you will be able to talk about this, maybe next >> Tuesday (one day before FAmSCo weekly meeting) at 21.00 UTC? >> >> If I couldn't be able to attend another FAmSCo member will lead the >> meeting and will answer your question. >> >> These are some interesting links: >> >> - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseParty/F10 : this >> page contains the Release Events list >> - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/Organization : this page >> contains a lot of informations about the organization of a Release >> Event >> >> Hoping you'll enjoy this experience >> >> Best Regards >> >> Francesco Ugolini >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > The From linux.rafa at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 02:55:05 2008 From: linux.rafa at gmail.com (Rafael Gomes) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:55:05 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 Release Parties preparatory meeting In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080809111839l587b20f7vc2d0a6a2a0098219@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60809111832p4a03b0a1i83bb3f790326e662@mail.gmail.com> <7a0d56080809111839l587b20f7vc2d0a6a2a0098219@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7256ccd50809111955p58ac9ebdhb49f3a7368994c5e@mail.gmail.com> We from Bahia - Brazil will have a F10 Release Party too, but I'm confused, we must add it to the Fedora Events[1] or here [2]? 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URL: From shambo.linux at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 05:30:36 2008 From: shambo.linux at gmail.com (Shambo Bose) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:00:36 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 Release Parties preparatory meeting In-Reply-To: <7256ccd50809111955p58ac9ebdhb49f3a7368994c5e@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60809111832p4a03b0a1i83bb3f790326e662@mail.gmail.com> <7a0d56080809111839l587b20f7vc2d0a6a2a0098219@mail.gmail.com> <7256ccd50809111955p58ac9ebdhb49f3a7368994c5e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 21.00 UTC means 2.30 am IST . the timing is odd for any ambassador from India. regards Shambo Bose From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 05:22:37 2008 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:22:37 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Event Report: University of South Carolina - School of Technology Support and Training Management In-Reply-To: <1221171489.3331.152.camel@calliope.phig.org> References: <1221171489.3331.152.camel@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: <7a0d56080809112222h739dbdcfxd3fa7c23f38f2532@mail.gmail.com> 2008/9/11 Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > * Larry Cafiero is working with some folks on a Lindependence event in > Oregon, so maybe that can coincide. For those of you keeping score at home, Lindependence Portland is on Oct. 25 in Beaverton. To my knowledge, Matt McKenzie (LinuxKnight) is a Fedora ambassador in Portland who is in contact with David Kaplan, the organizer of the event. If John Poelstra could also lend a hand, that would be fantastic. Matt could probably tell us more about this, but I believe he may need some media and other Fedora materials. Matt? [As for me, any trip to Oregon would have to include a side trip to Corvallis if for no other reason to see the OSU Open Source Lab, but I believe Corvallis and Portland are about 100 miles apart, or possibly more.] Larry Cafiero PS to David Nalley -- Cult? Where do I sign up? :-) From lnxknight at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 05:56:42 2008 From: lnxknight at gmail.com (Matt McKenzie) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:56:42 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Event Report: University of South Carolina - School of Technology Support and Training Management In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080809112222h739dbdcfxd3fa7c23f38f2532@mail.gmail.com> References: <1221171489.3331.152.camel@calliope.phig.org> <7a0d56080809112222h739dbdcfxd3fa7c23f38f2532@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Larry Cafiero wrote: > 2008/9/11 Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > > * Larry Cafiero is working with some folks on a Lindependence event in > > Oregon, so maybe that can coincide. > > For those of you keeping score at home, Lindependence Portland is on > Oct. 25 in Beaverton. To my knowledge, Matt McKenzie (LinuxKnight) is > a Fedora ambassador in Portland who is in contact with David Kaplan, > the organizer of the event. If John Poelstra could also lend a hand, > that would be fantastic. > If he can help awesome, the more the merrier :). I'm still kinda new at this stuff... > > Matt could probably tell us more about this, but I believe he may need > some media and other Fedora materials. Matt? Yes I have agreed to help with this, but have no materials, so if we can arrange any materials for this that would be cool. EventBox, EEEPC / MiniPC laptop type stuff?? Would really like to show one of those off with Fedora... Larry you mentioned speaking with Karsten (?) about getting some stuff? All I have right now is my work issue regular laptop (15") running Fedora. We could also use some help from marketing. Larry you ran this thing in Felton, CA, what did you do for marketing then? That isn't really my area of expertise. You or David should probably see about doing some press releases, I'll see what I can do as well. There is OSU, and there is also Portland State nearby, though I have no real contacts yet at either one. > > > [As for me, any trip to Oregon would have to include a side trip to > Corvallis if for no other reason to see the OSU Open Source Lab, but I > believe Corvallis and Portland are about 100 miles apart, or possibly > more.] Yes Corvallis to Portland is roughly 1.5-2 hour trip depending on traffic. > > > Larry Cafiero > > PS to David Nalley -- Cult? Where do I sign up? :-) > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ---------- Matt M. LinuxKnight -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sasuda at rediffmail.com Fri Sep 12 05:45:49 2008 From: sasuda at rediffmail.com (sathish m babu) Date: 12 Sep 2008 05:45:49 -0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 Release Parties preparatory meeting Message-ID: <20080912054549.48118.qmail@f5mail-236-220.rediffmail.com> hi i m new to fedora ambassadors project and i hav to know what to do for this release party i m willing to invlove in this M.Sathish Babu ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at gnsa.us Fri Sep 12 08:26:47 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:26:47 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] More thoughts on the education process and new contributors in general Message-ID: http://web.engr.oregonstate.edu/~budd/419/ I have reread this web page sent to me by Tim Budd at OSU about 3-4 times now and think that you should as well. Many of his reasons why students should get involved in OSS I share and have heard and echoed - though not quite as concisely or elegantly. Perhaps this is better suited for the f-mentors list, but I'll toss it out here as I think it's equally applicable to us, as we are constantly dealing with potential and new contributors. Please take a look specifically at the Merit Badge section of the above page. I think that we should implement such a roadmap for new contributors. If we get someone excited about Fedora and they want to help - we should treat them like a student - who is going to have a varied skillset - and that there should be a defined set of things that they work through. I am not talking about signing up for a FAS account or sending an introduction email to the list - though that needs to be there. I am also not suggesting that this be mandatory But how about - brand new contributors - they join - they desperately look for something to do - the potentially flail about IRC and mailing lists announcing their presence and availability - and I'd guess a good portion of the time they fall by the wayside. There are some universal things that contributors need to know/understand/grok. They need to understand bugzilla - they need to read bugs, file bugs, what makes a bug complete and see the workflow - so lets let them do some bug triage - it's relatively easy. So we say work on 50 bugs and come back to the next task - gardening the wiki - learning how to add content, structure, and cleaning up 20 or so pages. etc etc. If they find something they love doing - let them jump off of the track there and do that until/if they get ready to do more. Every company, when it takes in new employees has (or should have) an orientation process. While I don't think that we should make it mandatory - I think that if a new user comes along and says I want to get involved - where do I start - we need to have an answer. I know lmacken is working on some task queueing stuff for new contributors and that may obsolete the above idea, but it is a problem I perceive. Thoughts, comments, flames? From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 12 09:19:33 2008 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:19:33 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] More thoughts on the education process and new contributors in general In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51350.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221211173.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Hi, > Every company, when it takes in new employees has (or should have) an > orientation process. While I don't think that we should make it > mandatory - I think that if a new user comes along and says I want to > get involved - where do I start - we need to have an answer. In fact, I've been using Fedora for nearly 3 years now, and I only recently started to actively contribute. Why ? Because I didn't know what to do... :/ Such an orientation process might have make me contribute earlier, and as you say, I'm definitely not the only one. > I know lmacken is working on some task queueing stuff for new > contributors and that may obsolete the above idea, but it is a problem > I perceive. If I'm thinking about the same thing as you are, I don't see how this would obsolete your proposal. [Forget what follows if I'm wrong on the person / project] His idea is about how people with technical skills can find a technical project to work on. Your proposal is about people not knowing what to do / not having any particular skill find a task to do. His idea could also be applied to non technical tasks, that doesn't make your proposal less significant: - there could be no task in this queue system corresponding to the skills I possess at the moment - I might not be interested in any of the proposed tasks What do I do in this case ? Here comes your proposal: a path for people not knowing what to do, an orientation journey for everyone to find what they like, what they want to help with. ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 12 09:43:04 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:43:04 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 Release Parties preparatory meeting In-Reply-To: <7256ccd50809111955p58ac9ebdhb49f3a7368994c5e@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60809111832p4a03b0a1i83bb3f790326e662@mail.gmail.com> <7a0d56080809111839l587b20f7vc2d0a6a2a0098219@mail.gmail.com> <7256ccd50809111955p58ac9ebdhb49f3a7368994c5e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/12 Rishikesh Sharma : > My Release Party and Install fest is on dec 2008. Do i need to attend > the meeting which is proposed on tuesday. Please clarify me. We are discussing about Release Party that are organized after the General Availability (1 week> GA> 2/3weeks). If you are interested you can join the meeting and make your questions. 2008/9/12 Rafael Gomes : > We from Bahia - Brazil will have a F10 Release Party too, but I'm confused, > we must add it to the Fedora Events[1] or here[2]? > We have created page 2 to have a unique and clear list of Release Event, so 2 it's the best place now. 2008/9/12 Larry Cafiero : > To arrange this, I'd like to know if there's any idea when F10 will be > ready (within a couple of weeks would be fine). According to this (http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-all-tasks.html), the General Availability is set to Tue 2008-11-18. I don't know if it could be considered definitive or near-to-be-definitive. 2008/9/12 Shambo Bose : > 21.00 UTC means 2.30 am IST . > > the timing is odd for any ambassador from India. What is your preferred time? See http://www.timeanddate.com/ to understand how your preferred time could fit with the other ones. 2008/9/12 sathish m babu : > hi > i m new to fedora ambassadors project and > i hav to know what to do for this release party > i m willing to invlove in this First of all see if near you someone from Ambassadors Project is organizing a Release Party, if no, you could see the first mail I sent in this thread to understand how to organize a event. After, if you have specific questions, feel free to ask in a new thread. I hope to have cleared all the doubts. Regards Francesco Ugolini From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 12 09:53:08 2008 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:53:08 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 Release Parties preparatory meeting In-Reply-To: References: <7cb778c60809111832p4a03b0a1i83bb3f790326e662@mail.gmail.com> <7a0d56080809111839l587b20f7vc2d0a6a2a0098219@mail.gmail.com> <7256ccd50809111955p58ac9ebdhb49f3a7368994c5e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <36889.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221213188.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> >> 21.00 UTC means 2.30 am IST . >> >> the timing is odd for any ambassador from India. > > What is your preferred time? > > See http://www.timeanddate.com/ to understand how your preferred time > could fit with the other ones. Having meetings worldwide seems pretty impossible as there might be nearly 24 hours of difference between some people. For something like release events maybe we could split that in regional reunions. As the minutes of each reunion is available online, everyone could take into account what was discussed in other regions meetings, so it would not be a problem to split. Regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin From herlo1 at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 10:30:21 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:30:21 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Event Report: University of South Carolina - School of Technology Support and Training Management In-Reply-To: References: <1221171489.3331.152.camel@calliope.phig.org> <7a0d56080809112222h739dbdcfxd3fa7c23f38f2532@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/11 Matt McKenzie : > > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Larry Cafiero > wrote: >> >> 2008/9/11 Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >> >> > * Larry Cafiero is working with some folks on a Lindependence event in >> > Oregon, so maybe that can coincide. >> >> For those of you keeping score at home, Lindependence Portland is on >> Oct. 25 in Beaverton. To my knowledge, Matt McKenzie (LinuxKnight) is >> a Fedora ambassador in Portland who is in contact with David Kaplan, >> the organizer of the event. If John Poelstra could also lend a hand, >> that would be fantastic. > > If he can help awesome, the more the merrier :). I'm still kinda new at > this stuff... > >> >> Matt could probably tell us more about this, but I believe he may need >> some media and other Fedora materials. Matt? > > Yes I have agreed to help with this, but have no materials, so if we can > arrange any materials for this that would be cool. > EventBox, EEEPC / MiniPC laptop type stuff?? Would really like to show one > of those off with Fedora... > Larry you mentioned speaking with Karsten (?) about getting some stuff? > All I have right now is my work issue regular laptop (15") running Fedora. > > We could also use some help from marketing. Larry you ran this thing in > Felton, CA, what did you do for marketing then? > That isn't really my area of expertise. > > You or David should probably see about doing some press releases, I'll see > what I can do as well. > There is OSU, and there is also Portland State nearby, though I have no real > contacts yet at either one. > >> >> [As for me, any trip to Oregon would have to include a side trip to >> Corvallis if for no other reason to see the OSU Open Source Lab, but I >> believe Corvallis and Portland are about 100 miles apart, or possibly >> more.] > > Yes Corvallis to Portland is roughly 1.5-2 hour trip depending on traffic. > > >> >> Larry Cafiero >> >> PS to David Nalley -- Cult? Where do I sign up? :-) >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Alex et al, Do we still have some media (ala 100 discs or so) we could forward on to Mr Cafiero? I've given away the last of my bits already, but I hear you may have a few more? Thanks in advance. Cheers, Clint From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 12 11:23:49 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:23:49 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 Release Party and Install Fest at Imphal, Manipur In-Reply-To: References: <964198.79045.qm@web8402.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/1 avinash singh : > Hello Ambassadors, > I am new in ambassador of india.Plese provide me how i > can do my 100% contribution for Fedora. > > > Avinash Singh First of all stay in touch with your local community, maybe discuss about it with an Indian ambassadors could be helpfull. Second, there are thousands way to help Fedora and your community: - Join an event - Talk with people about Fedora - Provide free media to people around you - Attend APAC irc meetings - Post your feedbacks about your fedora ambassadors experience - etc. I can't say in a absolute way what you can do, there are a lot of ways to contribute in the Ambassadors project, you have just to find the way you like :) Regards Francesco Ugolini From pingou at pingoured.fr Fri Sep 12 11:30:04 2008 From: pingou at pingoured.fr (Pierre-Yves) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:30:04 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 Release Parties preparatory meeting In-Reply-To: <36889.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221213188.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> References: <7cb778c60809111832p4a03b0a1i83bb3f790326e662@mail.gmail.com> <7a0d56080809111839l587b20f7vc2d0a6a2a0098219@mail.gmail.com> <7256ccd50809111955p58ac9ebdhb49f3a7368994c5e@mail.gmail.com> <36889.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221213188.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: <48CA52BC.3050908@pingoured.fr> Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: >>> 21.00 UTC means 2.30 am IST . >>> >>> the timing is odd for any ambassador from India. >> What is your preferred time? >> >> See http://www.timeanddate.com/ to understand how your preferred time >> could fit with the other ones. > > Having meetings worldwide seems pretty impossible as there might be nearly > 24 hours of difference between some people. Let's make it 12 ;) > > For something like release events maybe we could split that in regional > reunions. Isn't it what's already being done ? (EMEA, America North America, Asia ?) > As the minutes of each reunion is available online, everyone > could take into account what was discussed in other regions meetings, so > it would not be a problem to split. That implies quite some work to keep in touch with what the other have been discussing about... In addition you increase the risk to see the same subject debate and debate again endlessly. Regards, Pierre From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 12 11:36:19 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:36:19 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 Release Parties preparatory meeting In-Reply-To: <36889.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221213188.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> References: <7cb778c60809111832p4a03b0a1i83bb3f790326e662@mail.gmail.com> <7a0d56080809111839l587b20f7vc2d0a6a2a0098219@mail.gmail.com> <7256ccd50809111955p58ac9ebdhb49f3a7368994c5e@mail.gmail.com> <36889.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221213188.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: 2008/9/12 Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) :>>> 21.00 UTC means 2.30 am IST . > For something like release events maybe we could split that in regional > reunions. As the minutes of each reunion is available online, everyone > could take into account what was discussed in other regions meetings, so > it would not be a problem to split. The local meetings still remain the first choice to organize local event. F10 Release Parties preparatory meeting is a way to have all the RE owners and contributors together to discuss about some important points. BTW, during local meeting you will continue discussion about Release Party; the meeting we have planned is only to discuss all together about release events global organization topics. 2008/9/12 Pierre-Yves : > Let's make it 12 ;) If all agree, it could be. > That implies quite some work to keep in touch with what the other have been > discussing about... In addition you increase the risk to see the same > subject debate and debate again endlessly. Yes, the main goal of this meeting is to simply work together on a single topic (release events) discussing about few points about the organization of those ones. From stickster at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 13:25:58 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:25:58 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list Message-ID: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have a question for FAMSCo: Can someone who is a well-known and active Fedora contributor join the fedora-ambassadors-list, without having to take on yet more Ambassador duties? Contributors are to me -- and I think to all Fedora community members -- some of the strongest advocates for Fedora. They contribute to Fedora because they believe in our mission and want to help. Occasionally there are opportunities for them to participate in an ambassadorial fashion, like a public speaking event. They should be able to report on this to the rest of the Ambassadors using fedora-ambassadors-list. Having open archives is good because it means people can read discussions after the fact. But if people can't read in real time, or let Ambassadors know about opportunities and then participate in the conversation, we're not getting real collaboration with the rest of the project. In every other list, there are a core of people who work diligently on that kind of contribution. Artwork, Docs, Infrastructure, and others, all are in the same situation. And although people drop in there and discuss ideas, that doesn't harm the progress of those particular teams. Good ideas are picked up, discussed, and often implemented. Bad ones are shot down (politely, I hope), alternative suggestions are made, and work carries on. I think more openness would serve this purpose well. However, I'm not going to ask for a change if someone can convince me that this kind of collaboration would be harmful to Ambassadors overall. What do you think, FAMSCo? Ambassadors? -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From inode0 at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 13:59:43 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:59:43 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: 2008/9/12 Paul W. Frields : > I think more openness would serve this purpose well. However, I'm not > going to ask for a change if someone can convince me that this kind of > collaboration would be harmful to Ambassadors overall. What do you > think, FAMSCo? Ambassadors? This one ambassador can't imagine any reason at all for this list to be private and completely supports changing it to be an open list at least to anyone who wants to go to the trouble to subscribe to it. John From david at gnsa.us Fri Sep 12 14:05:31 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:05:31 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: 2008/9/12 Paul W. Frields : > I have a question for FAMSCo: Can someone who is a well-known and > active Fedora contributor join the fedora-ambassadors-list, without > having to take on yet more Ambassador duties? > > Contributors are to me -- and I think to all Fedora community members -- > some of the strongest advocates for Fedora. They contribute to Fedora > because they believe in our mission and want to help. Occasionally > there are opportunities for them to participate in an ambassadorial > fashion, like a public speaking event. They should be able to report on > this to the rest of the Ambassadors using fedora-ambassadors-list. > > Having open archives is good because it means people can read > discussions after the fact. But if people can't read in real time, or > let Ambassadors know about opportunities and then participate in the > conversation, we're not getting real collaboration with the rest of the > project. > > In every other list, there are a core of people who work diligently on > that kind of contribution. Artwork, Docs, Infrastructure, and others, > all are in the same situation. And although people drop in there and > discuss ideas, that doesn't harm the progress of those particular teams. > Good ideas are picked up, discussed, and often implemented. Bad ones > are shot down (politely, I hope), alternative suggestions are made, and > work carries on. > > I think more openness would serve this purpose well. However, I'm not > going to ask for a change if someone can convince me that this kind of > collaboration would be harmful to Ambassadors overall. What do you > think, FAMSCo? Ambassadors? > > -- > Paul W. Frields > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > iirc the thinking way back when was that there might be some strategic advantage to having the list restricted. In a traditional marketing or tradeshow organization I could understand that thought - I mean there are some corps that want to keep what kind of swag they are handing out secret. That said I can't recall an instance where it was ever an issue, or provided us an advantage. (but don't claim to know/remember everything). There's nothing that we do in secret - features are known, release schedules are known, events that we are going to are known - and even if they weren't the archive provides access instantaneously. So +1 to opening the list up from a non-famsco member From red at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 12 14:27:38 2008 From: red at fedoraproject.org (Sandro "red" Mathys) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:27:38 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <48CA7C5A.50202@fedoraproject.org> Paul W. Frields wrote: > What do you think, FAMSCo? Ambassadors? Open up, please! :) I actually even tend to forget it's not open yet. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 259 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From herlo1 at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 14:29:24 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:29:24 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 8:05 AM, David Nalley wrote: > 2008/9/12 Paul W. Frields : >> I have a question for FAMSCo: Can someone who is a well-known and >> active Fedora contributor join the fedora-ambassadors-list, without >> having to take on yet more Ambassador duties? >> >> Contributors are to me -- and I think to all Fedora community members -- >> some of the strongest advocates for Fedora. They contribute to Fedora >> because they believe in our mission and want to help. Occasionally >> there are opportunities for them to participate in an ambassadorial >> fashion, like a public speaking event. They should be able to report on >> this to the rest of the Ambassadors using fedora-ambassadors-list. >> >> Having open archives is good because it means people can read >> discussions after the fact. But if people can't read in real time, or >> let Ambassadors know about opportunities and then participate in the >> conversation, we're not getting real collaboration with the rest of the >> project. >> >> In every other list, there are a core of people who work diligently on >> that kind of contribution. Artwork, Docs, Infrastructure, and others, >> all are in the same situation. And although people drop in there and >> discuss ideas, that doesn't harm the progress of those particular teams. >> Good ideas are picked up, discussed, and often implemented. Bad ones >> are shot down (politely, I hope), alternative suggestions are made, and >> work carries on. >> >> I think more openness would serve this purpose well. However, I'm not >> going to ask for a change if someone can convince me that this kind of >> collaboration would be harmful to Ambassadors overall. What do you >> think, FAMSCo? Ambassadors? >> >> -- >> Paul W. Frields >> gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 >> http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ >> irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > iirc the thinking way back when was that there might be some strategic > advantage to having the list restricted. In a traditional marketing or > tradeshow organization I could understand that thought - I mean there > are some corps that want to keep what kind of swag they are handing > out secret. That said I can't recall an instance where it was ever an > issue, or provided us an advantage. (but don't claim to know/remember > everything). There's nothing that we do in secret - features are > known, release schedules are known, events that we are going to are > known - and even if they weren't the archive provides access > instantaneously. > > So +1 to opening the list up from a non-famsco member > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > +1 to Paul's suggestion. Open it up with the understanding that we may moderate due to spam and such. If you are legitimate, it shouldn't be an issue at all. Cheers, Clint From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 12 14:32:57 2008 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:32:57 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <54346.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221229977.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Hi, > I have a question for FAMSCo: Can someone who is a well-known and > active Fedora contributor join the fedora-ambassadors-list, without > having to take on yet more Ambassador duties? I might have missed some steps because all I needed to become an ambassador was adding myself to a group, waiting to be accepted and then send a "hi it's me" message. Not really a lot of trouble... :/ > Contributors are to me -- and I think to all Fedora community members -- > some of the strongest advocates for Fedora. To me, they are already ambassadors. They just don't have the title of Ambassador yet. When I became an Ambassador, what I understood was that an Ambassador is "someone who promotes Fedora". So contributors who are promoting Fedora are ambassadors IMHO. However, as it has already been said, The lists are already publicly viewable, so there can't be any restriction of access and I have nothing against someone subscribing to it without being an official Ambassador. So, I have no objections to accepting subscribtions from non-Ambassadors, but I really don't see why those contributors you are talking about could not become Ambassadors. Regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 14:46:42 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:16:42 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Can we have a TRAC instance for tracking freemedia requests? Message-ID: Hi, I was thinking if it would be nice to have a TRAC based tracking system for filling and tracking Free Media data. Will this help us anyway? -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 12 14:48:09 2008 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:48:09 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Can we have a TRAC instance for tracking freemedia requests? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <58391.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221230889.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Hi, > I was thinking if it would be nice to have a TRAC based tracking > system for filling and tracking Free Media data. > Will this help us anyway? That's a rather good idea. This could even be a Fedora Hosted project, except it wouldn't have any source code. We could have a wiki on it to write procedures etc.. When someone files a request (ticket), a Free Media contributor can assign it to him and then mark the request as "fixed" when requester comments he received the media. In fact, it would be even easier than setting up a custom app for that, and would provide basically all that we need (I guess). I like it :) ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 14:58:44 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:28:44 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Can we have a TRAC instance for tracking freemedia requests? In-Reply-To: <58391.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221230889.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> References: <58391.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221230889.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: > > When someone files a request (ticket), a Free Media contributor can assign > it to him and then mark the request as "fixed" when requester comments he > received the media. We can change the "Fixed" label to "Accepted" or something similar. We can have custom labelling for buttons, fields etc. > In fact, it would be even easier than setting up a custom app for that, > and would provide basically all that we need (I guess). > > I like it :) Thanks. :) -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From jbenedictlow at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 15:32:21 2008 From: jbenedictlow at gmail.com (Jason Benedict Low) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:32:21 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Can we have a TRAC instance for tracking freemedia requests? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48CA8B85.2050706@gmail.com> susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Hi, > > I was thinking if it would be nice to have a TRAC based tracking > system for filling and tracking Free Media data. > Will this help us anyway? > > +1, despite i am recently very busy and short handed in my Job, thus being slow in sending out freemedia order, i really like susmit proposed. -- Best Regards, Jason http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jason_Benedict_Low ------ When i work nobody care. When i rest everybody stare. ------ From frankly3d at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 15:51:18 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:51:18 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Can we have a TRAC instance for tracking freemedia requests? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1221234678.22871.7.camel@frank-01> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 20:16 +0530, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Hi, > > I was thinking if it would be nice to have a TRAC based tracking > system for filling and tracking Free Media data. > Will this help us anyway? > I see the existing system as filling the needs. Frank -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From frankly3d at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 15:57:25 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:57:25 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1221235045.22871.14.camel@frank-01> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 09:25 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > I have a question for FAMSCo: Can someone who is a well-known and > active Fedora contributor join the fedora-ambassadors-list, without > having to take on yet more Ambassador duties? Can't see a problem, they're doing an important part. > > Contributors are to me -- and I think to all Fedora community members -- > some of the strongest advocates for Fedora. They contribute to Fedora > because they believe in our mission and want to help. Occasionally > there are opportunities for them to participate in an ambassadorial > fashion, like a public speaking event. They should be able to report on > this to the rest of the Ambassadors using fedora-ambassadors-list. > +1 > Having open archives is good because it means people can read > discussions after the fact. But if people can't read in real time, or > let Ambassadors know about opportunities and then participate in the > conversation, we're not getting real collaboration with the rest of the > project. > +1 Depending on how it's achieved. > In every other list, there are a core of people who work diligently on > that kind of contribution. Artwork, Docs, Infrastructure, and others, > all are in the same situation. And although people drop in there and > discuss ideas, that doesn't harm the progress of those particular teams. > Good ideas are picked up, discussed, and often implemented. Bad ones > are shot down (politely, I hope), alternative suggestions are made, and > work carries on. > > I think more openness would serve this purpose well. +1 Also applies to user concerns as per recent events. Frank -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 15:58:15 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:28:15 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Can we have a TRAC instance for tracking freemedia requests? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48CA9197.5000207@gmail.com> susmit shannigrahi wrote: > I was thinking if it would be nice to have a TRAC based tracking > system for filling and tracking Free Media data. > Will this help us anyway? What you are actually looking for is a Request Tracker / RT whereby folks can write in to an e-mail ID to generate a request ticket and those who are willing to take it would accept the ticket and once they have dropped the media into courier, resolve the ticket. Everybody can e-mail to a given address, so barrier to request a media is lower than expecting people to use a trac to create ticket -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From kwade at redhat.com Fri Sep 12 16:12:11 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:12:11 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1221235931.3331.229.camel@calliope.phig.org> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 09:25 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > I have a question for FAMSCo: Can someone who is a well-known and > active Fedora contributor join the fedora-ambassadors-list, without > having to take on yet more Ambassador duties? I was shocked that it was still restricted access. There is no way, at least in the US, that we can grow Ambassador interest without making it easy to lurk. Lurkers can wait for what they want to do, then jump on that. If someone has to be a doer before they can lurk, that is a big barrier. Out here in California, the mode is to lurk for a while before doing. I expect that when I send email to this list, I am also getting it in front of lurkers who have yet to step-up in California. If the list is instead entirely of people who are already "doers" but doesn't have any "may doers", then it is much less valuable for me. I need to know that our calls to action in the West are reaching the widest audience of active and potential Ambassadors. Other countries and states may have a different culture, but in Cali, people like to semi-commit before they fully commit. Being able to join and lurk on a list is a great semi-commitment. Thus, a request to FAMSCo to remove that restriction on list subscribing. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From herlo1 at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 16:23:48 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:23:48 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Can we have a TRAC instance for tracking freemedia requests? In-Reply-To: <48CA9197.5000207@gmail.com> References: <48CA9197.5000207@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:58 AM, "Sankarshan (????????)" wrote: > susmit shannigrahi wrote: > >> I was thinking if it would be nice to have a TRAC based tracking >> system for filling and tracking Free Media data. >> Will this help us anyway? > > What you are actually looking for is a Request Tracker / RT whereby > folks can write in to an e-mail ID to generate a request ticket and > those who are willing to take it would accept the ticket and once they > have dropped the media into courier, resolve the ticket. http://bestpractical.com/rt/ <-- its the best and will work similar to trac but also can help with other requests of a non-technical type. We use it at my work. It has a great perl api, plus has a bash front end as well. Cheers, Clint From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 12 16:55:47 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:55:47 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: 2008/9/12 Paul W. Frields : > I have a question for FAMSCo: Can someone who is a well-known and > active Fedora contributor join the fedora-ambassadors-list, without > having to take on yet more Ambassador duties? Actually the requirement to became a Fedora-Ambassadors list member is to be in the Ambassadors Account System group. I think your argumentations are reasonable and personally I agree with those one: surely they could be used to start a great discussion over this proposal. 1 .The main problem we would face could be resumed in this question: why someone who isn't in the Ambassadors group could be in Ambassadors list and someone else can't? If we accept people that aren't member of Ambassadors list, other people could ask why they can't etc... The natural conclusion would be: open Ambassadors List or maintain it closed. 2. I know there are a lot of Fedora Contributors interested joining the discussion over Fedora Events, and it's not correct to let them out of the discussion. I think FAmSCo could discuss about open the list only to Account System members. But, just another problem: it would be necessary a way to simplify M-L administrators work, in fact Joerg (our list administrator) is working hard trying to manage new requests, checking who is in the AS group etc.. 3. Personally I don't know how simple could be check all the requests, meanwhile we are work with new Ambassadors (a requirement to be an Ambassadors is write a message about themselves on the List: with this opening, would it be useful?). A lot of time we discussed about this opportunity both here, and during the past FAmSCo, there too. FAmSCo, meanwhile, will discuss about the possibility and will try to focus on the problems and the benefits from this proposal. Personally I could say one thing: Everyone in Fedora Project is an Ambassador, Ambassadors Project itself it's aimed to simplify people work, giving them resources etc. Starting from Sunday we will able to release an update in the new Memebership policy, and I can assure it will simplify the process to join the Project. Hope to be more detailed soon Regards Francesco Ugolini From stickster at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 17:11:10 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:11:10 +0000 Subject: [Famsco-list] Re: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1221239470.10226.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 18:55 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > 2008/9/12 Paul W. Frields : > > I have a question for FAMSCo: Can someone who is a well-known and > > active Fedora contributor join the fedora-ambassadors-list, without > > having to take on yet more Ambassador duties? > > Actually the requirement to became a Fedora-Ambassadors list member is > to be in the Ambassadors Account System group. > > I think your argumentations are reasonable and personally I agree with > those one: surely they could be used to start a great discussion over > this proposal. > > 1 .The main problem we would face could be resumed in this question: > why someone who isn't in the Ambassadors group could be in Ambassadors > list and someone else can't? If we accept people that aren't member of > Ambassadors list, other people could ask why they can't etc... The > natural conclusion would be: open Ambassadors List or maintain it > closed. > > 2. I know there are a lot of Fedora Contributors interested joining > the discussion over Fedora Events, and it's not correct to let them > out of the discussion. I think FAmSCo could discuss about open the > list only to Account System members. > But, just another problem: it would be necessary a way to simplify M-L > administrators work, in fact Joerg (our list administrator) is working > hard trying to manage new requests, checking who is in the AS group > etc.. > > 3. Personally I don't know how simple could be check all the requests, > meanwhile we are work with new Ambassadors (a requirement to be an > Ambassadors is write a message about themselves on the List: with this > opening, would it be useful?). > > A lot of time we discussed about this opportunity both here, and > during the past FAmSCo, there too. > > FAmSCo, meanwhile, will discuss about the possibility and will try to > focus on the problems and the benefits from this proposal. > > Personally I could say one thing: Everyone in Fedora Project is an > Ambassador, Ambassadors Project itself it's aimed to simplify people > work, giving them resources etc. > > Starting from Sunday we will able to release an update in the new > Memebership policy, and I can assure it will simplify the process to > join the Project. > > Hope to be more detailed soon I believe the fedora-ambassadors-list benefits far more by opening the list completely. This accomplishes several things: * Reduces overhead for moderators like Joerg * Increases cross-project collaboration * As Karsten noted, promotes a wider labor pool for getting involved Some additional recommendations that came from other people to me in private email: * Remove "[Ambassadors]" from the subject line, since it's not needed. * Add more moderators so that Joerg doesn't have to carry the whole load. There are others listed, but they are apparently inactive. Having more moderators is not usually harmful. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 12 17:23:38 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:23:38 +0200 Subject: [Famsco-list] Re: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221239470.10226.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1221239470.10226.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: 2008/9/12 Paul W. Frields : > > I believe the fedora-ambassadors-list benefits far more by opening the > list completely. This accomplishes several things: > > * Reduces overhead for moderators like Joerg > * Increases cross-project collaboration > * As Karsten noted, promotes a wider labor pool for getting involved Those sound reasonable, just give FAmSCo the time to take a Official position. I'm sure we could be able to express it among with the New Members Policy Update on Sunday. Meanwhile, it would be helpful to learn from all of you the opinion behind this proposal. Regards Francesco Ugolini From frankly3d at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 17:29:59 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:29:59 +0100 Subject: [Famsco-list] Re: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221239470.10226.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1221239470.10226.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1221240599.22871.25.camel@frank-01> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 17:11 +0000, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > * Remove "[Ambassadors]" from the subject line, since it's not needed. Yes, but put something in it's place maybe. I mean from a filtering POV, if you remove the *word, and user responds directly. Something can be inadvertently missed in a cluttered inbox. Frank > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From bpowell01 at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 17:25:12 2008 From: bpowell01 at gmail.com (Brian Powell) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:25:12 -0400 Subject: [Famsco-list] Re: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221239470.10226.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1221239470.10226.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <96365e610809121025h3b383027yb8c095290df8d050@mail.gmail.com> 2008/9/12 Paul W. Frields : > On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 18:55 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: >> 2008/9/12 Paul W. Frields : >> > I have a question for FAMSCo: Can someone who is a well-known and >> > active Fedora contributor join the fedora-ambassadors-list, without >> > having to take on yet more Ambassador duties? >> >> Actually the requirement to became a Fedora-Ambassadors list member is >> to be in the Ambassadors Account System group. >> >> I think your argumentations are reasonable and personally I agree with >> those one: surely they could be used to start a great discussion over >> this proposal. >> >> 1 .The main problem we would face could be resumed in this question: >> why someone who isn't in the Ambassadors group could be in Ambassadors >> list and someone else can't? If we accept people that aren't member of >> Ambassadors list, other people could ask why they can't etc... The >> natural conclusion would be: open Ambassadors List or maintain it >> closed. >> >> 2. I know there are a lot of Fedora Contributors interested joining >> the discussion over Fedora Events, and it's not correct to let them >> out of the discussion. I think FAmSCo could discuss about open the >> list only to Account System members. >> But, just another problem: it would be necessary a way to simplify M-L >> administrators work, in fact Joerg (our list administrator) is working >> hard trying to manage new requests, checking who is in the AS group >> etc.. >> >> 3. Personally I don't know how simple could be check all the requests, >> meanwhile we are work with new Ambassadors (a requirement to be an >> Ambassadors is write a message about themselves on the List: with this >> opening, would it be useful?). >> >> A lot of time we discussed about this opportunity both here, and >> during the past FAmSCo, there too. >> >> FAmSCo, meanwhile, will discuss about the possibility and will try to >> focus on the problems and the benefits from this proposal. >> >> Personally I could say one thing: Everyone in Fedora Project is an >> Ambassador, Ambassadors Project itself it's aimed to simplify people >> work, giving them resources etc. >> >> Starting from Sunday we will able to release an update in the new >> Memebership policy, and I can assure it will simplify the process to >> join the Project. >> >> Hope to be more detailed soon > > I believe the fedora-ambassadors-list benefits far more by opening the > list completely. This accomplishes several things: > > * Reduces overhead for moderators like Joerg > * Increases cross-project collaboration > * As Karsten noted, promotes a wider labor pool for getting involved > > Some additional recommendations that came from other people to me in > private email: > > * Remove "[Ambassadors]" from the subject line, since it's not needed. > > * Add more moderators so that Joerg doesn't have to carry the whole > load. There are others listed, but they are apparently inactive. > Having more moderators is not usually harmful. > > -- > Paul W. Frields > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > +1 to opening the list. I think we could benefit from having others join in on discussions as well as possibly help out. -- Regards, BrianPowell http://fedoraproject.org From paulds at bu.edu Fri Sep 12 17:34:36 2008 From: paulds at bu.edu (Paul Stauffer) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:34:36 -0400 Subject: [Famsco-list] Re: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221239470.10226.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1221239470.10226.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20080912173436.GI1988@cs.bu.edu> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 05:11:10PM +0000, Paul W. Frields wrote: > * Remove "[Ambassadors]" from the subject line, since it's not needed. Going off on a bit of a tangent here, but bear in mind that this point is a matter of strongly-held "religious" beliefs for many people, both those in favor and those opposed. Personally, I find subject tagging for mailing lists to be extremely valuable, as it allows me to visually filter the large number of new messages in my inbox and triage them quickly and efficiently. cheers, - Paul -- Paul Stauffer Manager of Research Computing Computer Science Department Boston University From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 12 17:37:07 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:37:07 +0200 Subject: [Famsco-list] Re: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <20080912173436.GI1988@cs.bu.edu> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1221239470.10226.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20080912173436.GI1988@cs.bu.edu> Message-ID: 2008/9/12 Paul Stauffer : > > Personally, I find subject tagging for mailing lists to be extremely > valuable, as it allows me to visually filter the large number of new > messages in my inbox and triage them quickly and efficiently. +1 From shambo.linux at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 17:39:25 2008 From: shambo.linux at gmail.com (Shambo Bose) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:09:25 +0530 Subject: [Famsco-list] Re: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1221239470.10226.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20080912173436.GI1988@cs.bu.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:07 PM, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > 2008/9/12 Paul Stauffer : >> >> Personally, I find subject tagging for mailing lists to be extremely >> valuable, as it allows me to visually filter the large number of new >> messages in my inbox and triage them quickly and efficiently. > > +1 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > +1 From bpowell01 at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 17:40:12 2008 From: bpowell01 at gmail.com (Brian Powell) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:40:12 -0400 Subject: [Famsco-list] Re: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1221239470.10226.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20080912173436.GI1988@cs.bu.edu> Message-ID: <96365e610809121040t53242899y4be9a3b71afda261@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > 2008/9/12 Paul Stauffer : >> >> Personally, I find subject tagging for mailing lists to be extremely >> valuable, as it allows me to visually filter the large number of new >> messages in my inbox and triage them quickly and efficiently. > > +1 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > +1 as well, though I could just as easily filter and tag by sender address instead of subject. -- Regards, BrianPowell http://fedoraproject.org From frankly3d at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 17:43:25 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:43:25 +0100 Subject: [Famsco-list] Re: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <96365e610809121040t53242899y4be9a3b71afda261@mail.gmail.com> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1221239470.10226.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20080912173436.GI1988@cs.bu.edu> <96365e610809121040t53242899y4be9a3b71afda261@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1221241405.22871.27.camel@frank-01> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 13:40 -0400, Brian Powell wrote: > > > > +1 as well, though I could just as easily filter and tag by sender > address instead of subject. Not if sent directly to you, inlieu of list. There would be sender filter for direct contact, Subject for general. Frank > -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From shambo.linux at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 18:18:30 2008 From: shambo.linux at gmail.com (Shambo Bose) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:48:30 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 Release Parties preparatory meeting In-Reply-To: References: <7cb778c60809111832p4a03b0a1i83bb3f790326e662@mail.gmail.com> <7a0d56080809111839l587b20f7vc2d0a6a2a0098219@mail.gmail.com> <7256ccd50809111955p58ac9ebdhb49f3a7368994c5e@mail.gmail.com> <36889.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221213188.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > 2008/9/12 Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) :>>> > 21.00 UTC means 2.30 am IST . >> For something like release events maybe we could split that in regional >> reunions. As the minutes of each reunion is available online, everyone >> could take into account what was discussed in other regions meetings, so >> it would not be a problem to split. > > The local meetings still remain the first choice to organize local > event. F10 Release Parties preparatory meeting is a way to have all > the RE owners and contributors together to discuss about some > important points. > > BTW, during local meeting you will continue discussion about Release > Party; the meeting we have planned is only to discuss all together > about release events global organization topics. > > > 2008/9/12 Pierre-Yves : >> Let's make it 12 ;) > > If all agree, it could be. > >> That implies quite some work to keep in touch with what the other have been >> discussing about... In addition you increase the risk to see the same >> subject debate and debate again endlessly. > > Yes, the main goal of this meeting is to simply work together on a > single topic (release events) discussing about few points about the > organization of those ones. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 12:00:00 UTC time +1 regards Shambo Bose From luca at foppiano.org Fri Sep 12 18:51:08 2008 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:51:08 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <54346.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221229977.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <54346.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221229977.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: <1221245468.3309.17.camel@sboing.byte-code.lan> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 16:32 +0200, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: > However, as it has already been said, The lists are already publicly > viewable, so there can't be any restriction of access and I have nothing > against someone subscribing to it without being an official Ambassador. > > So, I have no objections to accepting subscribtions from non-Ambassadors, > but I really don't see why those contributors you are talking about could > not become Ambassadors. I completely agree. All of our things are public but, I think discussion may be, a little bit private, but if someone wants to join, he/she is welcome, but he/she must at least subscribe to the list. Don't forget that Google index everything. ;-) Luca -- Today is Setting Orange, the 36th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 Youth. It's a wonder that anyone ever outgrows it. From frankly3d at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 19:54:30 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:54:30 +0100 Subject: [Fedora-freemedia-list] Re: [Ambassadors] Can we have a TRAC instance for tracking freemedia requests? In-Reply-To: <48CA9197.5000207@gmail.com> References: <48CA9197.5000207@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1221249270.22871.36.camel@frank-01> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 21:28 +0530, "Sankarshan (????????)" wrote: > susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > What you are actually looking for is a Request Tracker / RT whereby > folks can write in to an e-mail ID to generate a request ticket and > those who are willing to take it would accept the ticket and once they > have dropped the media into courier, resolve the ticket. > > Everybody can e-mail to a given address, so barrier to request a media > is lower than expecting people to use a trac to create ticket > > Being the absolute lazy sod I am. Would all this arrive at my email inbox, or is work involved :D Frank > -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From david at gnsa.us Fri Sep 12 19:58:05 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:58:05 -0400 Subject: [Fedora-freemedia-list] Re: [Ambassadors] Can we have a TRAC instance for tracking freemedia requests? In-Reply-To: <1221249270.22871.36.camel@frank-01> References: <48CA9197.5000207@gmail.com> <1221249270.22871.36.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 21:28 +0530, "Sankarshan (????????)" wrote: >> susmit shannigrahi wrote: >> > >> What you are actually looking for is a Request Tracker / RT whereby >> folks can write in to an e-mail ID to generate a request ticket and >> those who are willing to take it would accept the ticket and once they >> have dropped the media into courier, resolve the ticket. >> >> Everybody can e-mail to a given address, so barrier to request a media >> is lower than expecting people to use a trac to create ticket >> >> > > Being the absolute lazy sod I am. > Would all this arrive at my email inbox, > or is work involved :D No work is involved - it can come straight to your inbox replete with a 'ticket or tracking number'. From n1ghtcr4wler at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 20:21:36 2008 From: n1ghtcr4wler at gmail.com (Ricardo Ichizo) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:21:36 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Can we have a TRAC instance for tracking freemedia requests? In-Reply-To: References: <48CA9197.5000207@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080912202135.GA3655@carol> Hi, On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:23:48AM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:58 AM, "Sankarshan (????????????????????????)" > wrote: > > susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > > >> I was thinking if it would be nice to have a TRAC based tracking > >> system for filling and tracking Free Media data. > >> Will this help us anyway? > > > > What you are actually looking for is a Request Tracker / RT whereby > > folks can write in to an e-mail ID to generate a request ticket and > > those who are willing to take it would accept the ticket and once they > > have dropped the media into courier, resolve the ticket. > I liked this idea. =) > http://bestpractical.com/rt/ <-- its the best and will work similar to > trac but also can help with other requests of a non-technical type. > We use it at my work. It has a great perl api, plus has a bash front > end as well. > I worked with Trac customization and I know a little about its API. Could I help with something ? I know more two "customizable" issue trackers and I've heard the people talk about them well: * http://retrospectiva.org/blog * http://www.redmine.org/ Best regards, -- _(~)_ )"( [[ n1ghtcr4wler ]] (@_@) xmpp:richizo at jabber.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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They contribute to Fedora > because they believe in our mission and want to help. You are complete right, every contributor is also a representative! > Occasionally > there are opportunities for them to participate in an ambassadorial > fashion, like a public speaking event. This has nothing to do with the Ambassador Mailing List! If someone wears a ambassadorial fashion he should be in the Ambassadors Group in FAS and know his mission - because there are sometimes FedoraPeople who struggle with other Distros - for a Fedora Ambassador - this is a no go! If i am wrong - ok, then we do not need the AmbassadorGroup, because every Contributor is a Ambassador, right? > They should be able to report on > this to the rest of the Ambassadors using fedora-ambassadors-list. This Event Reports can be placed on the Planet and the Marketing List. Every Ambassador has to subscribe the Marketing List as well! > Having open archives is good because it means people can read > discussions after the fact. But if people can't read in real time, or > let Ambassadors know about opportunities and then participate in the > conversation, we're not getting real collaboration with the rest of the > project. The Archives are open for Public Reading! > In every other list, there are a core of people who work diligently on > that kind of contribution. Artwork, Docs, Infrastructure, and others, > all are in the same situation. And although people drop in there and > discuss ideas, that doesn't harm the progress of those particular teams. > Good ideas are picked up, discussed, and often implemented. Bad ones > are shot down (politely, I hope), alternative suggestions are made, and > work carries on. > I think more openness would serve this purpose well. > However, I'm not > going to ask for a change if someone can convince me that this kind of > collaboration would be harmful to Ambassadors overall. What do you > think, FAMSCo? Ambassadors? As you know there is the Marketing List and Karsten Wade has point out the function of that lists very good during the merging discussion! Fedora *must* have a list where pure, strategic marketing discussions can occur. This is a place where people who are otherwise very busy making other parts of Fedora succeed, can come to discuss some important ideas related to growing Fedora. Where people who are marketing professionals and who want to work with open marketing can come to be involved. This should be fedora-marketing-list. OTOH, there *must* be a list where tactical, day-to-day activities that enhance and grow Fedora can be discussed. This is where the various people who are active in promoting Fedora discuss specifics of events, activities, and other marketing programs. This should be fedora-ambassadors-list. from https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2007-February/msg00034.html The Ambassador List should be a list with low noise, low traffic for important stuff between the People who working on the certain Events and don?t have the time to discuss the same topics again and again. Right now we working on change the Introduction Requirement for new Ambassadors to lower the "Welcome" noise. If the world can post to that list i am concernd that we spend more time with explaining people the Ambassador Rules - than with organising our work. Chitlesh expressed it very well also during the Merging discussion - Ok, now let's ask do we need fedora ambassador project after all ? Fedora Ambassadors will lose their fedora ambassador status. (if every Person in the World can post to the List and everyone can wear ambassadorial fashion? why not? - added jsimon) This implies we(the fedora project) are losing something which is unique to fedora(and all other OSS Projects i know - added jsimon). This uniqueness has unknowingly solved many local fedora problems. Since, Fedora Ambassador Project what else it does, it: 1- makes every local marketing agent of fedora to meet other local marketing agents of that particular country. 2- makes all local marketing agents of a particular country talk/discuss with other local marketing agents of different countries. (IRC meetings at #fedora-mktg and fedora ambassador mailing list, Fedora Ambassadors Day) 3- makes all these local marketing agents solve problem together FOR the SOLE fedora interest.(Fedora Ambassadors Day, FUDCons) You see now that local marketing agents are what we call Fedora Ambassadors. With this Fedora Ambassador Infrastructure, we are NOT creating internal fights between Fedora Ambassadors of a particular country for an event for example. While in the Fedora World, we inform the fedora ambassador list for the event preparation. And generally work on that ML rather than local MLs. I hope you see the "Upstream benefit" that Fedora keeps on saying. We had great local fedora communities popping up from that _Fedora Ambassador Infrastructure_: French, German, Indian, Brazillian. We are seeing right now brilliant Belgium Fedora Ambassadors in action. Fedora Ambassador Project brings QUALITY to the Fedora Marketing. Fedora Marketing Project brings new Fedora Ambassadors in. from https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2007-February/msg00015.html -1 for open the Mailing List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From robert at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 12 20:48:29 2008 From: robert at fedoraproject.org (Robert Scheck) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:48:29 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20080912204829.GA20211@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: > I think more openness would serve this purpose well. However, I'm not > going to ask for a change if someone can convince me that this kind of > collaboration would be harmful to Ambassadors overall. What do you > think, FAMSCo? Ambassadors? I dislike the idea of an open fedora-ambassadors-list. I'm sorry to say that, but there's already to much non-ambassadors stuff on the list by people mixing up marketing and ambassadors IMHO. So if an opening of this list really should happen, I will unsubscribe myself immediately. Sorry. If everybody is allowed to write on the list, being a contributor is the same as being an ambassador then. And then we don't need this list at all. That's a simple decision for me... Greetings, Robert -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Filtering on a header, at worst the To: line, is a much better idea. The List-Id: or X-BeenThere: headers work well for me. For most people though, putting '[Ambassadors]' in their email client window means after a reply or two you can't see the subject anymore, which is ugly and not useful. Look at the subject of this very post for example! :-) -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This will increase much. > * Increases cross-project collaboration http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2007-March/msg00011.html > * As Karsten noted, promotes a wider labor pool for getting involved Paul, you are sure that you do not want to kill the Ambassadors Initiative? ;) btw. Opening Fedora Ambassadors List would end in a Second Marketing List! CU Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From inode0 at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 22:34:18 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:34:18 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <200809122335.46754.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1221239470.10226.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200809122335.46754.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: 2008/9/12 JoergSimon : > Am Freitag, 12. September 2008 19:11:10 schrieb Paul W. Frields: > >> * Reduces overhead for moderators like Joerg > > This is false, because Ambassador Group Membership requires Ambassador > Mailinglist Membership i have to check every unsubscribe in FAS to be sure > he is not a Ambassador. This will increase much. Unless it weren't even a requirement to belong to FAS, in which case you wouldn't have to do any of this. >> * Increases cross-project collaboration > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2007-March/msg00011.html > >> * As Karsten noted, promotes a wider labor pool for getting involved > > Paul, you are sure that you do not want to kill the Ambassadors Initiative? > ;) I'm sure none of us who feel opening up the list is a good idea wants to kill it, quite the opposite. Is the fedora-art-list membership restricted in any way beyond requiring a random person with a valid email account somewhere to sign up for it? How does interacting with the community at large, not just the Fedora community, impact the art team in positive and negative ways? I guess the issue is really what purpose do we have in mind for the list? How might the opportunities for broadening the conversation involving ambassadors be different with an open list? Other Fedora contributors could interact with us using it, they could also join the group and do that now. Not an overly high hurdle. Others outside the Fedora contributor community could also interact with us directly. That may well come with a cost. There might be some noise introduced to the list that it is insulated from now. There might also be opportunities to form new partnerships, interest new people in joining, learn from others who might contact us about similar issues that we are discussing at the time. I see potential benefits to opening the list up to anyone. I also see some risk, but the risk seems limited to a bit of extra noise one learns to ignore or filter on many lists anyway. > btw. > > Opening Fedora Ambassadors List would end in a Second Marketing List! Why? The marketing list has a well defined purpose explained clearly on the sign-up page. Since the ambassador list has no such description of its purpose it could be anything now. We could easily at to that sign-up page an equally clear explanation of its purpose, once we decide or understand what that purpose is. John From frankly3d at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 22:43:13 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:43:13 +0100 Subject: [Famsco-list] Re: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221253672.10109.48.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1221239470.10226.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1221240599.22871.25.camel@frank-01> <1221253672.10109.48.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1221259393.22871.52.camel@frank-01> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 17:07 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Filtering on a header, at worst the To: line, is a much better idea. > The List-Id: or X-BeenThere: headers work well for me. X headers, something I never really trusted too easily faked. > > For most people though, putting '[Ambassadors]' in their email client > window means after a reply or two you can't see the subject anymore, > which is ugly and not useful. Look at the subject of this very post for > example! :-) Subject looks fine [Famsco-list] [Ambassadors] once each (cross-post) Subject: Ambassadors list. As I stated, put in some word, doesn't have to be Ambassador per say, so if contact is made *off list. It will thread correctly by *Special Word*. It's the one thing missing from the user list. Also if opening list, maybe use grey listing or other methods to reduce fraudulent, well spammers. 7 children, I don't need c!aL1$ But otherwise I agree in principle with ppl being able to put their 2c in. with some slight reservations, as scribed earlier. Frank > -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From wonderer4711 at gmx.de Fri Sep 12 22:47:20 2008 From: wonderer4711 at gmx.de (wonderer) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:47:20 +0200 Subject: [Famsco-list] Re: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221239470.10226.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1221239470.10226.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <48CAF178.2090003@gmx.de> Paul W. Frields schrieb: > On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 18:55 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > >> 2008/9/12 Paul W. Frields : >> >>> I have a question for FAMSCo: Can someone who is a well-known and >>> active Fedora contributor join the fedora-ambassadors-list, without >>> having to take on yet more Ambassador duties? >>> My question as a normal Ambassador is "why"? If we do so, then I please want also the Mails from the Contributors List, from the board and internals also ;-) If a Contributor wants to be an Ambassodor its Ok, but with all "policys" there are. If I want also to be a Contributor or a maintainer or whatever I also have "something to do for it". >> Actually the requirement to became a Fedora-Ambassadors list member is >> to be in the Ambassadors Account System group. >> >> I think your argumentations are reasonable and personally I agree with >> those one: surely they could be used to start a great discussion over >> this proposal. >> >> 1 .The main problem we would face could be resumed in this question: >> why someone who isn't in the Ambassadors group could be in Ambassadors >> list and someone else can't? If we accept people that aren't member of >> Ambassadors list, other people could ask why they can't etc... The >> natural conclusion would be: open Ambassadors List or maintain it >> closed. >> If open, then ALL open. But I did not think that will be good longtime. >> 2. I know there are a lot of Fedora Contributors interested joining >> the discussion over Fedora Events, and it's not correct to let them >> out of the discussion. I think FAmSCo could discuss about open the >> list only to Account System members. >> But, just another problem: it would be necessary a way to simplify M-L >> administrators work, in fact Joerg (our list administrator) is working >> hard trying to manage new requests, checking who is in the AS group >> etc.. >> Ack on working hard. But with more help it will be easier I think. >> Personally I could say one thing: Everyone in Fedora Project is an >> Ambassador, Ambassadors Project itself it's aimed to simplify people >> work, giving them resources etc. >> >> Starting from Sunday we will able to release an update in the new >> Memebership policy, and I can assure it will simplify the process to >> join the Project. >> >> >> So, if somebody gets a FAS Account somebody can also join the Ambassadors... or other SIGs or so... > > I believe the fedora-ambassadors-list benefits far more by opening the > list completely. This accomplishes several things: > > * Reduces overhead for moderators like Joerg > * Increases cross-project collaboration > * As Karsten noted, promotes a wider labor pool for getting involved > I do not see the point also at this description. If we want a small amount of structures to get better quality we have to do some Administrative stuff. If this means some people like Joerg and others have work to do my personal thought is "hell, thanks this man for doing such increadible work". Mailinglists are a Tool, a piece of software to help for one area or one project. cross-projects can be build for small projects as a wikipage or an irc-channel. The postings of a list are on the web (e.g. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00291.html ) so, everybody - also the normal user - can contact the author and can make comments. He (or she) can also ask him to send his request to the list. My personal opinion is that I see at this time no reason to open a list at this way. But there may be some more reasons i did not get so far... > Some additional recommendations that came from other people to me in > private email: > > * Remove "[Ambassadors]" from the subject line, since it's not needed. > I need it ;-) I sort so wich I when read. > * Add more moderators so that Joerg doesn't have to carry the whole > load. There are others listed, but they are apparently inactive. > Having more moderators is not usually harmful. THATS a good idea I think. best regards Henrik From stickster at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 22:50:56 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:50:56 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1221239470.10226.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200809122335.46754.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1221259856.10109.70.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 17:34 -0500, inode0 wrote: > > Opening Fedora Ambassadors List would end in a Second Marketing List! > > Why? The marketing list has a well defined purpose explained clearly > on the sign-up page. Since the ambassador list has no such description > of its purpose it could be anything now. We could easily at to that > sign-up page an equally clear explanation of its purpose, once we > decide or understand what that purpose is. Chris Tyler and I recently helped focus the fedora-list so that it's easier to see what's on topic, and what's off topic. If discussions get out of hand, any community member can speak up and say, "Let's move this elsewhere." I offer that only as an example of making a list topical. The focus of the fedora-ambassadors-list, first and foremost, *must* be for the benefit of ambassadors, or else Joerg is right, it's not useful. In my opinion, opening the list does not immediately lead to the list becoming useless, as long as FAMSCo establishes that focus and all the Ambassadors here keep things focused. Having said that, I agree that FAMSCo should decide this after hearing input from the Ambassadors, and I do not want to dictate any changes here. As far as I'm concerned, this is merely an option that the community and its leadership should consider thoughtfully. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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IMHO. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 259 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 12 23:22:27 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:22:27 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: 2008/9/12 Paul W. Frields : > I have a question for FAMSCo: Can someone who is a well-known and > active Fedora contributor join the fedora-ambassadors-list, without > having to take on yet more Ambassador duties? I think all your argumentations are reasonable as I just said in my previous messages. I have bother respect and consideration for you and I think the reason behind this proposal are not unjustified. There is meanwhile a big problem: Ambassadors is a project out-of-the-scheme, just because we don't discuss about development or everything connected with a direct result, we discuss about people that have to talk with other people. In that way we provide Ambassadors the tools they need to be able to accomplish their duties. So, it could seem off-topic and maybe it is, but I need it to go ahead. Mailing list is one of the most important tool that we have, it has the same role of CVS for a programmer or a documentation editor. It allow us to let the other ambassadors know about the efforts of each other, and could help people not to repeat the work. Not only. It is our first resource to train new Ambassadors, just see how many people ask "What can I do?" and so on. Those seem stupid questions but they make clear that Ambassadors list is the first place to learn what to do. What could mean open the Ambassadors List? As I've just said, I would pay to have key-fedora-contributors in Ambassadors project, I'm sure if you will ask in the list you'll get the same answer. Meanwhile as FAmSCo member I have to guarantee the Ambassadors Project "ecosystem" from the "desertification" that a mass opening of the list could cause. I'm not talking about trusted people like key-fedora-contributors, I'm talking about a lot of people that will join the list only because they learn something somewhere, maybe without knowing what is really Ambassadors Project. Yes, I agree with you if you tell me that it could be the worst case, but I'm sure it could explain the concerns expressed by experienced people like Joerg and Robert. As FAmSCo we have to guarantee that Ambassadors will have the total control of one of their most important tool. Just let me do an example taken from another Fedora project: I'm the maintainer of a package, I'm the only one with the CVS access to that package, if someone else will access the package and will change it, I surely will fill disappointed and I'll get frustrated. I'm not a packager, but I could understand his feelings if it will happen. At the end let me ask everyone to think on yourself about your experience in the Ambassadors project, particularly with Fedora Ambassadors list. Now, imagine if we will open this one, I'm sure only the minority of the people that will join it will know the important role of Ambassadors List. I, personally, will agree if someone want to simplify the process to become an Ambassador (*), but as part of this project for more than 2 years I will be a liar if I'll not move the previous doubts and concerns. Could it be a benefit? You have to give me the answer. Best regards Francesco Ugolini "If this is the best of all possible worlds, what are the others?" Voltaire (*) FAmSCo is just working on a more easy process to became Ambassadors. From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 12 23:24:31 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:24:31 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: 2008/9/13 Francesco Ugolini : > I think all your argumentations are reasonable as I just said in my > previous messages. I have bother respect and consideration for you and > I think the reason behind this proposal are not unjustified. I'm Sorry I wanted to say both, not bother. Once again I apologize for this big/serious mistake. Regards Francesco Ugolini From stickster at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 23:43:51 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:43:51 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1221263031.10109.96.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 01:24 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > 2008/9/13 Francesco Ugolini : > > I think all your argumentations are reasonable as I just said in my > > previous messages. I have bother respect and consideration for you and > > I think the reason behind this proposal are not unjustified. > > I'm Sorry I wanted to say both, not bother. > > Once again I apologize for this big/serious mistake. Not serious, and no worries Francesco. I understood your meaning! :-) I hope people will consider how, for example, packagers have the choice to open up their package access to all packagers, as I and many others do. If I can't spring into action to fix a package for some reason, any other packager can do it in my place. Thank you for your considerate email and time thinking about this issue. You can rest assured that I'll respect the decision of FAMSCo and the Ambassadors community. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From hamada.zahera at yahoo.com Sat Sep 13 00:35:01 2008 From: hamada.zahera at yahoo.com (Hamada Zahera) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Who am I ?? Message-ID: <42609.28619.qm@web45814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hello Members . Kindly I would like to introduce myself to you I'm Hamada Zahera ,demonstrator at Faculty of Computers and Information , 22 years old.I'm geeky to Open Source Projects so I'm keen to join Fedora Project to be one its Contributors for more info about me.. see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hamadazahera my aims with Fedora I would like to spread Fedora around the world .I can act as a Speaker at my University and Some Other Egyptian Universities to give the students more information about it and let them try it -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hagr182 at gmail.com Sat Sep 13 03:22:58 2008 From: hagr182 at gmail.com (Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:22:58 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: <78323d480809101518p418361cdy16bbd84a1ef9d7bf@mail.gmail.com> References: <1221040690.4460.22.camel@frank-01> <7a0d56080809101017q2127cbaanada1bea83436b703@mail.gmail.com> <1221067620.4460.41.camel@frank-01> <7a0d56080809101041i728e6f73l440031f3ccb5ce6b@mail.gmail.com> <1221069555.4460.56.camel@frank-01> <1221074813.3388.160.camel@luminos.localdomain> <1221080032.4460.67.camel@frank-01> <78323d480809101518p418361cdy16bbd84a1ef9d7bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1d24cdf80809122022k4d01adf2tc95acf978393537c@mail.gmail.com> So can anyone please tell me whats going on with this situation??, many people I know are kinda freaking out, some believe, as I do, that its just gonna be sometime with out security updates, but some people say the project is going down, which is the truth as a manner of speaking???? By the way, Ive made some Fedora promotion presentations on both english and spanish, I ll submit them as soon as I recheck for errors. Regards, Hector. On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Mani A wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00231.html > > "clearly the first memo from Paul outlined a security breach" > > > > Which as the thread goes, I did not get that assertion, my assumption > > was that not enough, info was given out. You as in the community, does > > not want to create a panic, but silence\ lack of communication can be a > > panic in itself. > > > > Clearly the infrastructure and security team need to have a proper set > of rules for use in crisis management. More so, when the structure of > the crisis can be predicted by the book. > Just saying that it is necessary to 'communicate more' is not enough. > > > Best > > A. Mani > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: http://getfiregpg.org > > iD8DBQFIyEhsoIK4BlImohYRAuCmAKCMp2GUh8vcGLU+NHa/JIJlo0vnJACgoYs3 > xTk76mJscwE+PBu+ASltXxU= > =zkzW > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > -- > A. Mani > Member, Cal. Math. Soc > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulds at bu.edu Sat Sep 13 03:51:15 2008 From: paulds at bu.edu (Paul Stauffer) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:51:15 -0400 Subject: [Famsco-list] Re: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221253672.10109.48.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1221239470.10226.174.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1221240599.22871.25.camel@frank-01> <1221253672.10109.48.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20080913035115.GA8163@cs.bu.edu> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 05:07:52PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Filtering on a header, at worst the To: line, is a much better idea. > The List-Id: or X-BeenThere: headers work well for me. For active filtering, yes, but I was specifically talking about that quick visual hint that lets a busy person glance at their inbox and quickly decide what needs to be read next. Most mail readers aren't going to display any of those headers prominently in your inbox index listing. > For most people though, putting '[Ambassadors]' in their email client > window means after a reply or two you can't see the subject anymore, > which is ugly and not useful. Look at the subject of this very post for > example! :-) Nonsense. Mailman will not add the tag a second time if it's already there. The current subject line is only due to cross-posting, which is discouraged on this list anyway. It would probably be ok to use a shorter tag, like "[Amb]" if the length of the current one is too bothersome for people. Ok, ok, just wanted to point out that it's a touchy issue for many strongly opinionated people, as I think I've illustrated. :) cheers, - Paul -- Paul Stauffer Manager of Research Computing Computer Science Department Boston University From jkeating at redhat.com Sat Sep 13 05:19:54 2008 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:19:54 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis In-Reply-To: <1d24cdf80809122022k4d01adf2tc95acf978393537c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1221040690.4460.22.camel@frank-01> <7a0d56080809101017q2127cbaanada1bea83436b703@mail.gmail.com> <1221067620.4460.41.camel@frank-01> <7a0d56080809101041i728e6f73l440031f3ccb5ce6b@mail.gmail.com> <1221069555.4460.56.camel@frank-01> <1221074813.3388.160.camel@luminos.localdomain> <1221080032.4460.67.camel@frank-01> <78323d480809101518p418361cdy16bbd84a1ef9d7bf@mail.gmail.com> <1d24cdf80809122022k4d01adf2tc95acf978393537c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1221283194.24191.11.camel@luminos.localdomain> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 20:22 -0700, Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez wrote: > > So can anyone please tell me whats going on with this situation??, many > people I know are kinda freaking out, some believe, as I do, that its just > gonna be sometime with out security updates, but some people say the project > is going down, which is the truth as a manner of speaking???? 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This will increase much. > > Unless it weren't even a requirement to belong to FAS, in which case > you wouldn't have to do any of this. in no case - do we want such a list. Discussions are for Marketing List? The Ambassadors List should be a coordination List - I would be pleased if you read my other Mail to that issue, here are my intentions in detail: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00291.html CU -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Sat Sep 13 08:09:13 2008 From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:09:13 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 Release Parties preparatory meeting In-Reply-To: References: <7cb778c60809111832p4a03b0a1i83bb3f790326e662@mail.gmail.com> <7a0d56080809111839l587b20f7vc2d0a6a2a0098219@mail.gmail.com> <7256ccd50809111955p58ac9ebdhb49f3a7368994c5e@mail.gmail.com> <36889.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221213188.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: 2008/9/12 Francesco Ugolini > The local meetings still remain the first choice to organize local > event. F10 Release Parties preparatory meeting is a way to have all > the RE owners and contributors together to discuss about some > important points. > +1 > 2008/9/12 Pierre-Yves : > > Let's make it 12 ;) > +1 ================================= Regards Mahay Alam Khan gpg key: 4FDD30FB Fedora Ambassador Bangladesh ================================= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frankly3d at gmail.com Sat Sep 13 09:24:19 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:24:19 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Who am I ?? In-Reply-To: <42609.28619.qm@web45814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <42609.28619.qm@web45814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1221297859.5755.4.camel@frank-01> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 17:35 -0700, Hamada Zahera wrote: > Hello Members . > Kindly I would like to introduce myself to you > I'm Hamada Zahera , > > > Welcome Hamada. > > demonstrator at Faculty of Computers and Information , 22 years > old.I'm geeky to Open Source Projects so I'm keen to join Fedora > Project to be one its Contributors > > Always do with Contributors, the backbone of any project. > > > for more info about me.. see > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hamadazahera > > my aims with Fedora > I would like to spread Fedora around the world .I can act as a Speaker > at my University and Some Other Egyptian Universities to give the > students more information about it and let them try it > > You might also consider the FreeMedia Program. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia Frank -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <20080912202135.GA3655@carol> References: <48CA9197.5000207@gmail.com> <20080912202135.GA3655@carol> Message-ID: 2008/9/13 Ricardo Ichizo : > Hi, > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:23:48AM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:58 AM, "Sankarshan (????????????????????????)" >> wrote: >> > susmit shannigrahi wrote: >> > >> >> I was thinking if it would be nice to have a TRAC based tracking >> >> system for filling and tracking Free Media data. >> >> Will this help us anyway? >> > >> > What you are actually looking for is a Request Tracker / RT whereby >> > folks can write in to an e-mail ID to generate a request ticket and >> > those who are willing to take it would accept the ticket and once they >> > have dropped the media into courier, resolve the ticket. >> > > I liked this idea. =) > >> http://bestpractical.com/rt/ <-- its the best and will work similar to >> trac but also can help with other requests of a non-technical type. >> We use it at my work. It has a great perl api, plus has a bash front >> end as well. >> > > I worked with Trac customization and I know a little about its API. Could > I help with something ? > > I know more two "customizable" issue trackers and I've heard the people > talk about them well: > > * http://retrospectiva.org/blog > > * http://www.redmine.org/ > > Best regards, > -- > _(~)_ > )"( [[ n1ghtcr4wler ]] > (@_@) xmpp:richizo at jabber.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkjKz08ACgkQKMMc9nmH2n29SACgkHZFaQK2RtL/WeJQSmv4PbfG > MV8An1jrsaOhhTkysS9usA96J0OZjSlP > =Pokj > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > nice idea i liked it as it will increase the efficiency of media contributors and the time lag between order and acceptance can be minimised regards Shambo Bose From shambo.linux at gmail.com Sat Sep 13 09:30:15 2008 From: shambo.linux at gmail.com (Shambo Bose) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:00:15 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Who am I ?? In-Reply-To: <1221297859.5755.4.camel@frank-01> References: <42609.28619.qm@web45814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <1221297859.5755.4.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: 2008/9/13 Frank Murphy : > On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 17:35 -0700, Hamada Zahera wrote: > > Hello Members . > Kindly I would like to introduce myself to you > I'm Hamada Zahera , > > > Welcome Hamada. > > demonstrator at Faculty of Computers and Information , 22 years old.I'm > geeky to Open Source Projects so I'm keen to join Fedora Project to be one > its Contributors > > Always do with Contributors, the backbone of any project. > > > for more info about me.. see > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hamadazahera > > my aims with Fedora > I would like to spread Fedora around the world .I can act as a Speaker at my > University and Some Other Egyptian Universities to give the students more > information about it and let them try it > > > You might also consider the FreeMedia Program. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia > > Frank > > > -- > gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( > aMSN: Frankly3D > http://www.frankly3d.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > welcome regards Shambo Bose From frankly3d at gmail.com Sat Sep 13 09:33:10 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:33:10 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?=A1Announcing?= Fedora Colombia! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1221298390.5755.8.camel@frank-01> On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 13:44 -0500, Diego Escobar wrote: > > English: > > Hi all: > > I am pleased to introduce a new website Fedora, the first official in > Colombia for Fedora Project and one more for "Proyecto Fedora" > Latinoamerica, as a part of our commitment to spread Fedora on > latinoamerican and spanish speakers communities. Sorry about late reply. Well done. It's nice to see local groups get going. > > This is my first "official" contribution to send the Fedora?s message > to the world, and I hope from this humble beginning, that Fedora > Colombia not only is a meeting point for colombian fedora?s users else > for latinoamerican people and contribute - of course - with much more > to Fedora Project. > > You can see it on: http://proyectofedora.org/colombia > You mgith conside maybe some of your group volunteer with the FreeMedia program? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia Frank > -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 13 10:47:14 2008 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:47:14 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Can we have a TRAC instance for tracking freemedia requests? In-Reply-To: References: <48CA9197.5000207@gmail.com> <20080912202135.GA3655@carol> Message-ID: <1221302834.15564.2.camel@horton> > >> http://bestpractical.com/rt/ <-- its the best and will work similar to > >> trac but also can help with other requests of a non-technical type. > >> We use it at my work. It has a great perl api, plus has a bash front > >> end as well. > >> > > > > I worked with Trac customization and I know a little about its API. Could > > I help with something ? > > > > I know more two "customizable" issue trackers and I've heard the people > > talk about them well: > > > > * http://retrospectiva.org/blog > > > > * http://www.redmine.org/ One thing we have to take care is where will this application be run. If we want it to be centralised in the Fedora Infrastructure, then it might be harder to get one of those than simply open a Fedora Hosted Project. We could also have regional instances, each one hosted on a different site, but that would complicate everything IMHO. Anyway, having a tool to improve the workflow of distributing FreeMedia is indeed a great idea. Regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From david at gnsa.us Sat Sep 13 12:33:46 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:33:46 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Can we have a TRAC instance for tracking freemedia requests? In-Reply-To: <1221302834.15564.2.camel@horton> References: <48CA9197.5000207@gmail.com> <20080912202135.GA3655@carol> <1221302834.15564.2.camel@horton> Message-ID: 2008/9/13 Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) : >> >> http://bestpractical.com/rt/ <-- its the best and will work similar to >> >> trac but also can help with other requests of a non-technical type. >> >> We use it at my work. It has a great perl api, plus has a bash front >> >> end as well. >> >> >> > >> > I worked with Trac customization and I know a little about its API. Could >> > I help with something ? >> > >> > I know more two "customizable" issue trackers and I've heard the people >> > talk about them well: >> > >> > * http://retrospectiva.org/blog >> > >> > * http://www.redmine.org/ > > One thing we have to take care is where will this application be run. > > If we want it to be centralised in the Fedora Infrastructure, then it > might be harder to get one of those than simply open a Fedora Hosted > Project. > > We could also have regional instances, each one hosted on a different > site, but that would complicate everything IMHO. > > Anyway, having a tool to improve the workflow of distributing FreeMedia > is indeed a great idea. > > Regards, > > Using something like Request Tracker we could push it into different queues based on country of request. No need to have a separate instance per region. From dezone24 at gmail.com Sat Sep 13 14:35:24 2008 From: dezone24 at gmail.com (Diego Escobar) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:35:24 -0500 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[Ambassadors]_Re:_=A1Announcing_Fedora_Colombia!?= In-Reply-To: <1221298390.5755.8.camel@frank-01> References: <1221298390.5755.8.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: 2008/9/13 Frank Murphy > On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 13:44 -0500, Diego Escobar wrote: > > > > English: > > > > Hi all: > > > > I am pleased to introduce a new website Fedora, the first official in > > Colombia for Fedora Project and one more for "Proyecto Fedora" > > Latinoamerica, as a part of our commitment to spread Fedora on > > latinoamerican and spanish speakers communities. > > Sorry about late reply. > > Well done. It's nice to see local groups get going. > > > > > > This is my first "official" contribution to send the Fedora?s message > > to the world, and I hope from this humble beginning, that Fedora > > Colombia not only is a meeting point for colombian fedora?s users else > > for latinoamerican people and contribute - of course - with much more > > to Fedora Project. > > > > You can see it on: http://proyectofedora.org/colombia > > > > > You mgith conside maybe some of your group volunteer with the FreeMedia > program? > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia > > Yes, the last week I was talking with our ambassadors in Colombia to provide CDs and DVDs. In fact, we are quoting the best price for labels and DVD's boxes. By now we are looking a way to adquire resources. -- Diego Escobar Fedora Ambassador for Colombia Fedora Release 9 (Sulphur): Linux Kernel 2.6.25 + Gnome 2.22 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From inode0 at gmail.com Sat Sep 13 15:28:55 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:28:55 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <200809130830.40402.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200809122335.46754.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <200809130830.40402.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: 2008/9/13 JoergSimon : > Am Samstag, 13. September 2008 00:34:18 schrieb inode0: >> > This is false, because Ambassador Group Membership requires Ambassador >> > Mailinglist Membership i have to check every unsubscribe in FAS to be >> > sure he is not a Ambassador. This will increase much. >> >> Unless it weren't even a requirement to belong to FAS, in which case >> you wouldn't have to do any of this. > > in no case - do we want such a list. Discussions are for Marketing List? The > Ambassadors List should be a coordination List - I would be pleased if you > read my other Mail to that issue, here are my intentions in detail: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00291.html I have read the entire thread. I understand that you and others see the role of the ambassador list and perhaps the role of ambassadors in a more restrictive way than I do. I see the role of ambassadors as one empowered to take initiatives to promote Fedora and I see the role of the ambassadors list as being the place for discussion of whatever the ambassadors would like to discuss with each other. And as a believer in open communication I don't mind at all if non-ambassadors participate in discussions and would be happy if barriers to such participation were lowered. Once in a while it doesn't hurt us to take a second or third look at the way things work. It allows us to act on what we've learned and grow into more than we currently are. I don't think of this conversation as more than that, I don't think anyone is trying to upset the apple cart. Just asking for people to take a fresh look at the structures we have in place and think about them with fresh eyes. They may be what the group still wants them to be. But when they aren't in some eyes it is good to take a look again. And while it might seem tedious to explain why things are the way they are it does help new ambassadors understand them better. Thank you for doing that for all of us new ambassadors. John From frankly3d at gmail.com Sat Sep 13 15:45:07 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:45:07 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200809122335.46754.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <200809130830.40402.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1221320707.31136.20.camel@frank-01> On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 10:28 -0500, inode0 wrote: > Just asking for people to take a fresh look at > the structures we have in place and think about them with fresh eyes. > They may be what the group still wants them to be. But when they > aren't in some eyes it is good to take a look again. And while it > might seem tedious to explain why things are the way they are it does > help new ambassadors understand them better. Thank you for doing that > for all of us new ambassadors. > I do agree that a fresh pair of eyes, can sometimes spot the missing piece.. Frank -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 13 16:15:45 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:15:45 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200809122335.46754.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <200809130830.40402.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: 2008/9/13 inode0 : > I see the role of ambassadors as one empowered to take initiatives to > promote Fedora and I see the role of the ambassadors list as being the > place for discussion of whatever the ambassadors would like to discuss > with each other. And as a believer in open communication I don't mind > at all if non-ambassadors participate in discussions and would be > happy if barriers to such participation were lowered. I agree with you, meanwhile there are certain discussions that need to be taken in a place with Ambassadors, just because are only Ambassadors related: - Budget: Event Owners and Members of Ambassadors Account System Group can ask for this and discuss about it. To plan this one is necessary the opinion of those people. How we could filter comment made by Ambassadors with the other made by list followers? - Policy: if we make a vote to change some important policies (like in the past), How can we understand who has the right to vote or not? I agree that during the event organization process is necessary the participation of all the community, but there are still closed issues that must discussed by Ambassadors, just because those are stuff for Ambassadors (like code is for Fedora Developers). I know it could sound strange but we could find a different solution, maybe using Marketing list to discuss with the whole community (not only Fedora ones) about events. It's quite simple and one of the it would fit the marketing side of an Event. While Ambassadors will work on Resources Management, New Ambassadors Training and Event Tracking, Marketing list would provide the right place to talk with the community about the Events, maybe getting feedbacks etc, that Ambassadors could use to better manage resources, without losing the goal of Ambassadors List and the project itself. Hope it could be seen as a possibility Regards Francesco Ugolini From frankly3d at gmail.com Sat Sep 13 16:32:47 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:32:47 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200809122335.46754.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <200809130830.40402.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1221323567.31136.38.camel@frank-01> On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 18:15 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > 2008/9/13 inode0 : > I agree with you, meanwhile there are certain discussions that need to > be taken in a place with Ambassadors, just because are only > Ambassadors related: I'm sure this could be accommodated somehow. > > - Budget: Event Owners and Members of Ambassadors Account System Group > can ask for this and discuss about it. To plan this one is necessary > the opinion of those people. How we could filter comment made by > Ambassadors with the other made by list followers? I can understand concern(s) here, is it not possible to create email aliases, eg. johndoe at ambassador.fedoraproject.org Could be filtered with a wildcard *@amb but as someone has lives in a country awash with brown envelopes. The *budget per say should be open and frank (no relation) as per. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Budget > - Policy: if we make a vote to change some important policies (like in > the past), How can we understand who has the right to vote or not? as above > > I agree that during the event organization process is necessary the > participation of all the community, but there are still closed issues > that must discussed by Ambassadors, just because those are stuff for > Ambassadors (like code is for Fedora Developers). true, but all users(1) can make suggestions through the various methods, if x,y,z can be implemented in the code. > > I know it could sound strange but we could find a different solution, > maybe using Marketing list to discuss with the whole community (not > only Fedora ones) about events. It's quite simple and one of the it > would fit the marketing side of an Event. I actually see some overlap between the two. Both are in the biz of promoting Fedora Frank (1) Some basic knowledge required. -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From herlo1 at gmail.com Sat Sep 13 17:09:01 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:09:01 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221323567.31136.38.camel@frank-01> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200809122335.46754.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <200809130830.40402.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1221323567.31136.38.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 18:15 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: >> 2008/9/13 inode0 : > >> I agree with you, meanwhile there are certain discussions that need to >> be taken in a place with Ambassadors, just because are only >> Ambassadors related: > > I'm sure this could be accommodated somehow. > >> >> - Budget: Event Owners and Members of Ambassadors Account System Group >> can ask for this and discuss about it. To plan this one is necessary >> the opinion of those people. How we could filter comment made by >> Ambassadors with the other made by list followers? > > I can understand concern(s) here, > is it not possible to create email aliases, > eg. johndoe at ambassador.fedoraproject.org > Could be filtered with a wildcard *@amb > > but as someone has lives in a country awash with brown envelopes. > The *budget per say should be open and frank (no relation) as per. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Budget > >> - Policy: if we make a vote to change some important policies (like in >> the past), How can we understand who has the right to vote or not? > > as above >> >> I agree that during the event organization process is necessary the >> participation of all the community, but there are still closed issues >> that must discussed by Ambassadors, just because those are stuff for >> Ambassadors (like code is for Fedora Developers). > > true, but all users(1) can make suggestions through the various methods, > if x,y,z can be implemented in the code. > >> >> I know it could sound strange but we could find a different solution, >> maybe using Marketing list to discuss with the whole community (not >> only Fedora ones) about events. It's quite simple and one of the it >> would fit the marketing side of an Event. > > I actually see some overlap between the two. > Both are in the biz of promoting Fedora > > Frank > > (1) Some basic knowledge required. > > > -- > gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( > aMSN: Frankly3D > http://www.frankly3d.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Per a discussion I just had with John Rose about the direction of this discussion. I quote from irc just to give context to what I suggest. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10:32 < herlo> wow, the mailing list is off-the-hook on this 'opening the ambassadors list' issue. Quite a read 10:32 < inode0> hehe, I think it has been a good discussion at least from my perspective 10:35 < herlo> inode0: yes, I just didn't think it would even be a discussion 10:35 < inode0> while the NA ambassadors are being fairly aggressive about rethinking organizational structures it is important for us to be willing to listen very carefully and learn all we can about the success of ambassadors in other areas and how the existing structures have worked well for assisting them in their success 10:35 < herlo> opening it up seemed like the right thing to do 10:36 < herlo> but I like the arguments coming from the other side too, albeit I mostly disagree with them 10:36 < herlo> inode0: agreed 10:37 < inode0> there are two needs, one mostly administrative and that is the current role of f-a-l 10:37 < inode0> the other is more community oriented and it seems lacking now but perhaps needs a different place 10:39 < herlo> well, maybe there should be a fedora-community-list to which all ambassadors should subscribe 10:39 < herlo> which is kind of what I am seeing be argued although I didn't see anyone specifically say that :) 10:40 < inode0> most suggestions have been for taking the discussion to f-m-l but I'm sure there will be objections to that in the end when those discussions seem not appropriate to their mission 10:41 < inode0> I like the idea of f-c-l or something like that but there is danger of list sprawl too 10:42 < inode0> I don't really mind higher traffic on any of the lists, more discussion means more ideas 10:45 < herlo> well, I don't think the argument (even though paul suggested it) to open up the f-a-l will win. The only real compromise is to say okay, that's fine let's keep this as a planning list and if a contributor in the community wants to suggest something, lets make an alternate list or a place for them to do so 10:45 < inode0> I think you are right 10:46 < herlo> from my pov, this discussion will go on and on because people like to dig into the nitty gritty details 10:46 < herlo> I'm one who doesn't want to spend weeks and months discussing something into the ground. I'm a man of action and just want to accomplish the purpose for which I set out, helping people learn and contribute to fedora 10:47 < herlo> so the f-c-l seems like the best option available. 10:47 < herlo> maybe there's something else someone could suggest?? 10:47 * herlo thinks he'll take this stuff here and post it to that discussion now 10:47 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors should have something I think about how to contact us and f-c-l would be fine with me as a place I hope nobody is offended by any of the comments above, but it brings out a couple ideas which I think could help us to accomplish the original thought brought forward by Paul. The theory is that we need a place for the community, anyone who's a fedora contributor (if I'm wrong here correct me), to be able to sign up to a list and suggest an idea to help promote and/or grow Fedora in some way. The main issue here is whether the f-a-l is the right place to have this happen. And while I agree with opening it up, I see good arguments for not doing so and thus, brings me to a point where I'd like to solve the problem as I see it. It seems there is an issue with either marketing and/or ambassadors lists not being the the perfect place for contributors to make suggestions and what not. To this end, I suggest we create a list to which ambassadors/marketing should sign up and others *can* sign up. The list will essentially provide what Paul would like to see, but won't become off-topic discussions in the marketing/ambassadors lists. Thoughts on this? I'm still not sure its a perfect solution, but I believe it leads to a better solution than to discuss filtering or anything else. If you have suggestions along these lines, please make them. If you think I'm completely mistaken, tell me. Thanks for listening to my opinions. Cheers, Clint From paulds at bu.edu Sat Sep 13 17:18:21 2008 From: paulds at bu.edu (Paul Stauffer) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:18:21 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200809122335.46754.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <200809130830.40402.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1221323567.31136.38.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <20080913171821.GA15614@cs.bu.edu> On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:09:01AM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: > original thought brought forward by Paul. The theory is that we need > a place for the community, anyone who's a fedora contributor (if I'm > wrong here correct me), to be able to sign up to a list and suggest an > idea to help promote and/or grow Fedora in some way. In what way is the marketing list not serving this need already? It's an open list, and its entire purpose is discussion related to promoting and/or growing Fedora. - Paul -- Paul Stauffer Manager of Research Computing Computer Science Department Boston University From inode0 at gmail.com Sat Sep 13 17:48:09 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:48:09 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <20080913171821.GA15614@cs.bu.edu> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200809122335.46754.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <200809130830.40402.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1221323567.31136.38.camel@frank-01> <20080913171821.GA15614@cs.bu.edu> Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Paul Stauffer wrote: > On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:09:01AM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: >> original thought brought forward by Paul. The theory is that we need >> a place for the community, anyone who's a fedora contributor (if I'm >> wrong here correct me), to be able to sign up to a list and suggest an >> idea to help promote and/or grow Fedora in some way. > > In what way is the marketing list not serving this need already? It's an > open list, and its entire purpose is discussion related to promoting and/or > growing Fedora. >From the sign-up page for f-m-l: "The purpose of this list is planning for the long-term marketing strategy of the Fedora Project." That is far more restricted than what we are talking about. And it further direct folks to the ambassadors group with: "If you are interested in working on the day-to-day marketing tactics of Fedora, participating in planning of events, or otherwise spreading Fedora 'on the ground', see the Fedora Ambassadors program." However there really isn't any way to discuss things with that group without joining it first. John From frankly3d at gmail.com Sat Sep 13 17:56:37 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:56:37 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200809122335.46754.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <200809130830.40402.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1221323567.31136.38.camel@frank-01> <20080913171821.GA15614@cs.bu.edu> Message-ID: <1221328597.31136.55.camel@frank-01> On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 12:48 -0500, inode0 wrote: > "If you are interested in working on the day-to-day marketing tactics > of Fedora, participating in planning of events, or otherwise spreading > Fedora 'on the ground', see the Fedora Ambassadors program." > > However there really isn't any way to discuss things with that group > without joining it first. > Just a thought, and not being a web-designer, "Suggestion-Box" open to all. akin to the store idea. with enough volunteers, around the globe t\z's to remove ant spam. With the rest can be forwarded to suitable parties. Frank -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 13 18:20:40 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:20:40 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200809122335.46754.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <200809130830.40402.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1221323567.31136.38.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: 2008/9/13 Clint Savage : > To this end, I suggest we create a list to which ambassadors/marketing > should sign up and others *can* sign up. The list will essentially > provide what Paul would like to see, but won't become off-topic > discussions in the marketing/ambassadors lists. Yeah, it could work! Wating, me too, for feedbacks on such proposal Regards Francesco Ugolini From felix at fetzig.org Sat Sep 13 18:27:57 2008 From: felix at fetzig.org (Felix Kaechele) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:27:57 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction Message-ID: <48CC062D.40401@fetzig.org> Hello Everyone! My name is Felix Kaechele, I was born and still live in Germany though i'm half Canadian. I'm currently 18 Years of age and still visit the local Gymnasium (our German equivalent to high school) where I manage all of the 150 computers including 3 servers (One Gentoo, one NetWare and of course: one Fedora) as well as the networking infrastructure (that is: ethernet and wifi). I joined the Ambassadors because I think I can help to spread the word and convince people to free themselves from proprietary software. You can also visit my Fedora WikiPage at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Heffer for (more) Information. That's all for now. If you have any questions please feel free to contact me. Maybe I'll see some of you at FADEMEA 2008 in Basel. Cheers, Felix From simon at w3sp.de Sat Sep 13 18:54:05 2008 From: simon at w3sp.de (Simon Wesp) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:54:05 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction In-Reply-To: <48CC062D.40401@fetzig.org> References: <48CC062D.40401@fetzig.org> Message-ID: <20080913205405.7c314937@schafwiese> Hi Felix! Welcome! -- Mit freundlichen Gr??en aus dem sch?nen Hainzell Simon Wesp The G in GNU stands for GNU -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From david at gnsa.us Sun Sep 14 01:17:57 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:17:57 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200809122335.46754.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <200809130830.40402.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > 2008/9/13 inode0 : > >> I see the role of ambassadors as one empowered to take initiatives to >> promote Fedora and I see the role of the ambassadors list as being the >> place for discussion of whatever the ambassadors would like to discuss >> with each other. And as a believer in open communication I don't mind >> at all if non-ambassadors participate in discussions and would be >> happy if barriers to such participation were lowered. > > I agree with you, meanwhile there are certain discussions that need to > be taken in a place with Ambassadors, just because are only > Ambassadors related: Let me preface by saying I understand the distinction between the EMEA and NA perception of Ambassadors - there is a difference. And honestly EMEA has been more successful so perhaps we should look at it in that light. > > - Budget: Event Owners and Members of Ambassadors Account System Group > can ask for this and discuss about it. To plan this one is necessary > the opinion of those people. How we could filter comment made by > Ambassadors with the other made by list followers? One of the unique things about F/LOSS is that we don't care who you are - we don't care if you are a teenager or someone with a PhD in CompSci - what matters is the quality of your ideas and the benefit of you work. Why would we want to filter out potentially good ideas because they aren't "one of us". At the same time I understand that being an Ambassador appears to be highly regarded, particularly in the EMEA - and perhaps we in NA don't value it enough. I think the line of thinking is that "If anyone can do it, what's the point". > > - Policy: if we make a vote to change some important policies (like in > the past), How can we understand who has the right to vote or not? I'd think votes could be handled by FAS-backed voting system. > > I agree that during the event organization process is necessary the > participation of all the community, but there are still closed issues > that must discussed by Ambassadors, just because those are stuff for > Ambassadors (like code is for Fedora Developers). but fedora-devel isn't restricted only to "sponsored packagers" > > I know it could sound strange but we could find a different solution, > maybe using Marketing list to discuss with the whole community (not > only Fedora ones) about events. It's quite simple and one of the it > would fit the marketing side of an Event. Aside from not wanting to dilute the status of being an ambassador - what do we lose by inviting others in? > > While Ambassadors will work on Resources Management, New Ambassadors > Training and Event Tracking, Marketing list would provide the right > place to talk with the community about the Events, maybe getting > feedbacks etc, that Ambassadors could use to better manage resources, > without losing the goal of Ambassadors List and the project itself. What goals do we miss out on?? From josemanimala at gmail.com Sun Sep 14 02:38:18 2008 From: josemanimala at gmail.com (jose manimala) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:08:18 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction In-Reply-To: References: <48CC062D.40401@fetzig.org> <702a203e0809131422p3c8fe5d8lc5d03a767c79cda2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <53a863600809131938r5d652cb2pe38ca5d8d07df845@mail.gmail.com> WElcome 2 Fedora! 2008/9/14 Junior Tomazelli > welciome. :D > > -- > Wolnei C?ndido Tomazelli Junior (Charged) > Brazil Fedora Ambassador > Designer and TI > E-mail : linux.charged at gmail.com > Linux User #477062 > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Jose M Manimala Ph: +919480610242 http://www.jmmblog.in.eu.org GPGkeyID: 98FF52D2 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: <48CA9197.5000207@gmail.com> <20080912202135.GA3655@carol> <1221302834.15564.2.camel@horton> Message-ID: Created a ticket with infrastructure. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/841 -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Sun Sep 14 08:27:24 2008 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:27:24 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> 2008/9/12 Paul W. Frields : > Having open archives is good because it means people can read > discussions after the fact. But if people can't read in real time, or > let Ambassadors know about opportunities and then participate in the > conversation, we're not getting real collaboration with the rest of the > project. Hello there, Ever since the Fedora Ambassador Project was created way back in 2005, this type of discussion comes up every 6/7 months. I have said it before (several times since the Fedora Ambassador Project was created) and JoergSimon already posted a link to that. However please DO NO OPEN THE ARCHIVES OF THIS LIST to public. A short summary: The Fedora Ambassador Project is a sub project of the Fedora Marketing Project and everyone will agree with that. Fedora Marketing List is open to public, but Fedora Ambassador project's does not. All Ambassadors _must_ be subscribed to the Marketing mailing list. Coming back to Paul Frield's words: > we're not getting real collaboration with the rest of the project. The collaboration between ambassadors and the rest of the project _IS_ and _should be_ via the marketing mailing list and not ambassador mailing list. When the ambassador project was initiated, the ambassador mailing list was intented to serve as a ground to discuss critical issues (freely between Fedora Ambassadors) such as: - budget expenses on a particular event - frank discussions (but between ambassadors ONLY) about difficulties they had during events. Thus next time, other fedora ambassadors don't fall into the same problems. example: if for a particular event ambassadors had a very bad experience with a hotel, he/she can share his/her views here. If the list is opened, this type of discussion will implicate bad publicity for the hotel. We are ambassadors and not hotel-star-tagger. Thus a private ML protects our views. -............(there are many critical issues, that you are already aware of) Fedora Ambassadors are not those who decide the faith/roadmap(FAB does) of the whole Fedora Project. Thus to the outside world, this mailing list is not important. A REQUEST TO ALL AMBASSADORS: The Fedora Ambassador Project had many difficulties in the past. Every time we all worked together to solve those difficulties. We are all proud of the success of our improvements. The latter is based on our 3 years experience we have. Please next time before deciding something about the Fedora Ambassadors Project's faith, DO NOT destroy what we have constructed during the last past years. Being a Fedora Ambassador is being part of the exciting Fedora Marketing family. During many events we have proved to the rest of the world we are the most solid and proffesional marketing team.Believe me or not, the closed Fedora Ambassador ML has a lot to contribute to that. Fedora Marketing Mailing List: As for more inter-projects collaboration, I believe everyone should make an effort to use the Fedora Marketing List instead of using it as a news-posting media AND leave Fedora Ambassador ML closed for critical issues. I don't believe that opening ambassador project ML will bring more good than bad things to it. I still stress of the word QUALITY! If you followed our last big events, you would have seen that quality in promoting the Fedora Project. Making the ambassador subscription process easier is not by opening the ambassador mailing list, but rather every ambassador should work for that. Vote: -1 : I support JoergSimon's arguments and do not vote blindly. Kind regards, Chitlesh From avinashsingh_87 at hotmail.com Sun Sep 14 08:35:31 2008 From: avinashsingh_87 at hotmail.com (avinash singh) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:05:31 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: yeah its good idea. Avinash Singh > Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:27:24 +0200> From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com> To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list> > 2008/9/12 Paul W. Frields :> > Having open archives is good because it means people can read> > discussions after the fact. But if people can't read in real time, or> > let Ambassadors know about opportunities and then participate in the> > conversation, we're not getting real collaboration with the rest of the> > project.> > Hello there,> > Ever since the Fedora Ambassador Project was created way back in 2005,> this type of discussion comes up every 6/7 months.> > I have said it before (several times since the Fedora Ambassador> Project was created) and JoergSimon already posted a link to that.> > However please DO NO OPEN THE ARCHIVES OF THIS LIST to public.> > A short summary:> The Fedora Ambassador Project is a sub project of the Fedora Marketing> Project and everyone will agree with that. Fedora Marketing List is> open to public, but Fedora Ambassador project's does not. All> Ambassadors _must_ be subscribed to the Marketing mailing list.> > Coming back to Paul Frield's words:> > we're not getting real collaboration with the rest of the project.> > The collaboration between ambassadors and the rest of the project _IS_> and _should be_ via the marketing mailing list and not ambassador> mailing list.> > When the ambassador project was initiated, the ambassador mailing list> was intented to serve as a ground to discuss critical issues (freely> between Fedora Ambassadors) such as:> - budget expenses on a particular event> - frank discussions (but between ambassadors ONLY) about difficulties> they had during events. Thus next time, other fedora ambassadors don't> fall into the same problems.> example: if for a particular event ambassadors had a very bad> experience with a hotel, he/she can share his/her views here. If the> list is opened, this type of discussion will implicate bad publicity> for the hotel. We are ambassadors and not hotel-star-tagger. Thus a> private ML protects our views.> -............(there are many critical issues, that you are already aware of)> > Fedora Ambassadors are not those who decide the faith/roadmap(FAB> does) of the whole Fedora Project. Thus to the outside world, this> mailing list is not important.> > A REQUEST TO ALL AMBASSADORS:> > The Fedora Ambassador Project had many difficulties in the past. Every> time we all worked together to solve those difficulties. We are all> proud of the success of our improvements. The latter is based on our 3> years experience we have.> > Please next time before deciding something about the Fedora> Ambassadors Project's faith, DO NOT destroy what we have constructed> during the last past years.> > Being a Fedora Ambassador is being part of the exciting Fedora> Marketing family. During many events we have proved to the rest of the> world we are the most solid and proffesional marketing team.Believe me> or not, the closed Fedora Ambassador ML has a lot to contribute to> that.> > Fedora Marketing Mailing List:> > As for more inter-projects collaboration, I believe everyone should> make an effort to use the Fedora Marketing List instead of using it as> a news-posting media AND leave Fedora Ambassador ML closed for> critical issues.> > I don't believe that opening ambassador project ML will bring more> good than bad things to it. I still stress of the word QUALITY! If you> followed our last big events, you would have seen that quality in> promoting the Fedora Project.> > Making the ambassador subscription process easier is not by opening> the ambassador mailing list, but rather every ambassador should work> for that.> > Vote: -1 : I support JoergSimon's arguments and do not vote blindly.> > Kind regards,> Chitlesh> > --> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list _________________________________________________________________ Want to explore the world? Visit MSN Travel for the best deals. http://in.msn.com/coxandkings -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerold at lugd.org Sun Sep 14 09:53:03 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:53:03 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1221385983.6367.12.camel@F9NB.homenet.local> +10 from my perspective And sorry, why we need to discuss this topic "every year"? Regards Gerold PS.: all points are discussed and argued more than once Am Sonntag, den 14.09.2008, 10:27 +0200 schrieb Chitlesh GOORAH: > 2008/9/12 Paul W. Frields : > > Having open archives is good because it means people can read > > discussions after the fact. But if people can't read in real time, or > > let Ambassadors know about opportunities and then participate in the > > conversation, we're not getting real collaboration with the rest of the > > project. > > Hello there, > > Ever since the Fedora Ambassador Project was created way back in 2005, > this type of discussion comes up every 6/7 months. > > I have said it before (several times since the Fedora Ambassador > Project was created) and JoergSimon already posted a link to that. > > However please DO NO OPEN THE ARCHIVES OF THIS LIST to public. > > A short summary: > The Fedora Ambassador Project is a sub project of the Fedora Marketing > Project and everyone will agree with that. Fedora Marketing List is > open to public, but Fedora Ambassador project's does not. All > Ambassadors _must_ be subscribed to the Marketing mailing list. > > Coming back to Paul Frield's words: > > we're not getting real collaboration with the rest of the project. > > The collaboration between ambassadors and the rest of the project _IS_ > and _should be_ via the marketing mailing list and not ambassador > mailing list. > > When the ambassador project was initiated, the ambassador mailing list > was intented to serve as a ground to discuss critical issues (freely > between Fedora Ambassadors) such as: > - budget expenses on a particular event > - frank discussions (but between ambassadors ONLY) about difficulties > they had during events. Thus next time, other fedora ambassadors don't > fall into the same problems. > example: if for a particular event ambassadors had a very bad > experience with a hotel, he/she can share his/her views here. If the > list is opened, this type of discussion will implicate bad publicity > for the hotel. We are ambassadors and not hotel-star-tagger. Thus a > private ML protects our views. > -............(there are many critical issues, that you are already aware of) > > Fedora Ambassadors are not those who decide the faith/roadmap(FAB > does) of the whole Fedora Project. Thus to the outside world, this > mailing list is not important. > > A REQUEST TO ALL AMBASSADORS: > > The Fedora Ambassador Project had many difficulties in the past. Every > time we all worked together to solve those difficulties. We are all > proud of the success of our improvements. The latter is based on our 3 > years experience we have. > > Please next time before deciding something about the Fedora > Ambassadors Project's faith, DO NOT destroy what we have constructed > during the last past years. > > Being a Fedora Ambassador is being part of the exciting Fedora > Marketing family. During many events we have proved to the rest of the > world we are the most solid and proffesional marketing team.Believe me > or not, the closed Fedora Ambassador ML has a lot to contribute to > that. > > Fedora Marketing Mailing List: > > As for more inter-projects collaboration, I believe everyone should > make an effort to use the Fedora Marketing List instead of using it as > a news-posting media AND leave Fedora Ambassador ML closed for > critical issues. > > I don't believe that opening ambassador project ML will bring more > good than bad things to it. I still stress of the word QUALITY! If you > followed our last big events, you would have seen that quality in > promoting the Fedora Project. > > Making the ambassador subscription process easier is not by opening > the ambassador mailing list, but rather every ambassador should work > for that. > > Vote: -1 : I support JoergSimon's arguments and do not vote blindly. > > Kind regards, > Chitlesh > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Gerold Kassube -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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They contribute to Fedora > because they believe in our mission and want to help. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00323.html Still believe my point here is a viable option. And would prevent future debates. Frank -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Sep 14 11:28:38 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:28:38 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 Release Parties Meeting reminder - Thusday 16th 12.00 UTC Message-ID: F10 Release Parties Preparatory Meeting will be on Thusday 16th at 12.00 UTC in #fedora-meetings Meeting agenda: 1. Current status 2. Events owners requests 3. FAmSCo communications 4. t.b.d. Best regards Francesco Ugolini From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Sep 14 11:41:27 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:11:27 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48CCF867.9040008@fedoraproject.org> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > I have said it before (several times since the Fedora Ambassador > Project was created) and JoergSimon already posted a link to that. > > However please DO NO OPEN THE ARCHIVES OF THIS LIST to public. It has already been open for quite a long time. Rahul From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Sun Sep 14 11:49:56 2008 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:49:56 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <48CCF867.9040008@fedoraproject.org> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> <48CCF867.9040008@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <50baabb30809140449l422329e9x7a292a5d37a3b53d@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > It has already been open for quite a long time. > > Rahul Even though the majority once refused ?? Chitlesh From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Sep 14 11:53:39 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:53:39 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <50baabb30809140449l422329e9x7a292a5d37a3b53d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> <48CCF867.9040008@fedoraproject.org> <50baabb30809140449l422329e9x7a292a5d37a3b53d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/14 Chitlesh GOORAH : > On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> It has already been open for quite a long time. >> >> Rahul > > Even though the majority once refused ?? It was just open since the beginning. Someone, maybe I, thought it was closed a year and half ago, but it wasn't so. We didn't change that situation. The last two FAmSCos didn't thouch it. Regards Francesco Ugolini From jbenedictlow at gmail.com Sun Sep 14 12:15:51 2008 From: jbenedictlow at gmail.com (Jason Benedict Low) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:15:51 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> <48CCF867.9040008@fedoraproject.org> <50baabb30809140449l422329e9x7a292a5d37a3b53d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48CD0077.7000703@gmail.com> Francesco Ugolini wrote: > 2008/9/14 Chitlesh GOORAH : > >> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> >>> It has already been open for quite a long time. >>> >>> Rahul >>> >> Even though the majority once refused ?? >> > > It was just open since the beginning. Someone, maybe I, thought it was > closed a year and half ago, but it wasn't so. We didn't change that > situation. The last two FAmSCos didn't thouch it. > how about taking this opportunity to do a vote for close or open. Just my 2cts worth. -- Best Regards, Jason http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jason_Benedict_Low ------ When i work nobody care. When i rest everybody stare. ------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frankly3d at gmail.com Sun Sep 14 12:27:04 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:27:04 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <48CD0077.7000703@gmail.com> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> <48CCF867.9040008@fedoraproject.org> <50baabb30809140449l422329e9x7a292a5d37a3b53d@mail.gmail.com> <48CD0077.7000703@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1221395224.21551.12.camel@frank-01> On Sun, 2008-09-14 at 20:15 +0800, Jason Benedict Low wrote: > > > how about taking this opportunity to do a vote for close or open. > Just my 2cts worth. I think we would be voting on a number of issue(s). 1: mailing list open \closed 2: m-l Archives keep open \close. 3: Some method for outsiders to pass comments Frank -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Sep 14 12:29:05 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:29:05 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <48CD0077.7000703@gmail.com> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> <48CCF867.9040008@fedoraproject.org> <50baabb30809140449l422329e9x7a292a5d37a3b53d@mail.gmail.com> <48CD0077.7000703@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/14 Jason Benedict Low : > > how about taking this opportunity to do a vote for close or open. > Just my 2cts worth. We are talking about M-L archives, and they are just open. I don't see any reason to change it, in fact, as I know, the discussion about M-L archives was caused by a simple mistake made by someone (maybe I), that thought (2 years ago) that the archives were closed, but they were open (I think we we were at first FAD EMEA when we noticed it). Here we are discussion about Ambassadors list. I think there are interesting points of view and proposal. Just pause this, just closed, discussion about M-L archives. Regards Francesco Ugolini From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Sep 14 12:37:08 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:37:08 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221395224.21551.12.camel@frank-01> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> <48CCF867.9040008@fedoraproject.org> <50baabb30809140449l422329e9x7a292a5d37a3b53d@mail.gmail.com> <48CD0077.7000703@gmail.com> <1221395224.21551.12.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: 2008/9/14 Frank Murphy : > On Sun, 2008-09-14 at 20:15 +0800, Jason Benedict Low wrote: >> > >> how about taking this opportunity to do a vote for close or open. >> Just my 2cts worth. > > I think we would be voting on a number of issue(s). > > 1: mailing list open \closed I think instead of a vote, we have to evaluate the reasons. Paul asked here for feedbacks/suggestions/proposals and we saw a lot of them, but I think the decision must be taken not with a +1 or -1 but with a reasoned thought. I'm sure the previous 50 messages contain a lot of feedbacks and suggestions, and I don't see a reason to destroy them with a no-sense +1, -1 (in the past we noticed that they didn't take a conclusion, meanwhile a reasoned discussion taken to great results). > 2: m-l Archives keep open \close. This discussion was closed 2 years ago. > 3: Some method for outsiders to pass comments FAmSCo is working on a draft and will soon make public the decision, according to all the lot of feedbacks, suggestions and concerns we received. We aren't stealing power to the Ambassadors, we, instead, are taking in consideration each mail, and we are spending our time (sunday too) to search for a clear and reasonable solution. After 3 years here, trust me when I said this is the best method to have results. I invite all of you to continue posting your opinion, your proposal and your ideas about this topic: these are the real voting, trust me when I say it. Regards Francesco Ugolini From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Sun Sep 14 13:50:48 2008 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:50:48 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221395224.21551.12.camel@frank-01> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> <48CCF867.9040008@fedoraproject.org> <50baabb30809140449l422329e9x7a292a5d37a3b53d@mail.gmail.com> <48CD0077.7000703@gmail.com> <1221395224.21551.12.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <50baabb30809140650p669b7f8bn1fa5b8d09eb62191@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > I think we would be voting on a number of issue(s). > > 1: mailing list open \closed > > 2: m-l Archives keep open \close. > > 3: Some method for outsiders to pass comments > > Frank Please be serious. F10 will soon be out. Concentrate on that. As for the 3., I said before: fedora marketing ML is meant for that. Chitlesh From frankly3d at gmail.com Sun Sep 14 14:03:12 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:03:12 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <50baabb30809140650p669b7f8bn1fa5b8d09eb62191@mail.gmail.com> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> <48CCF867.9040008@fedoraproject.org> <50baabb30809140449l422329e9x7a292a5d37a3b53d@mail.gmail.com> <48CD0077.7000703@gmail.com> <1221395224.21551.12.camel@frank-01> <50baabb30809140650p669b7f8bn1fa5b8d09eb62191@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1221400992.21551.18.camel@frank-01> On Sun, 2008-09-14 at 15:50 +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Please be serious. Each to his own opinion > F10 will soon be out. Concentrate on that. Discussion is here now, F10 will be Dec 08 if not Jan 09. which will be followed by F11 Rawhide testing. Your Point? > > As for the 3., I said before: fedora marketing ML is meant for that. As I said before so can a "Suggestion Box" Which doesn't require sign up Frank -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Sep 14 14:18:41 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:18:41 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221400992.21551.18.camel@frank-01> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> <48CCF867.9040008@fedoraproject.org> <50baabb30809140449l422329e9x7a292a5d37a3b53d@mail.gmail.com> <48CD0077.7000703@gmail.com> <1221395224.21551.12.camel@frank-01> <50baabb30809140650p669b7f8bn1fa5b8d09eb62191@mail.gmail.com> <1221400992.21551.18.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: 2008/9/14 Frank Murphy : > Discussion is here now, > F10 will be Dec 08 if not Jan 09. > which will be followed by F11 Rawhide testing. > Your Point? I think he wanted to say: we have to prepare F10 activities (see for example Release Events party), and it would better to concentrate on those ones (see F10 Release Party preparatory meeting this Tuesday). BTW, FAmSCo is working on a solution based on the proposals/ideas/doubts posted here: just give us the time to be able to make this, nobody will be unhappy of the result. We are working on a summary of all opinions. We are elaborating a solution to this discussion. I can assure everyone will find this solution the best one, FAmSCo is here to understand what the whole community want and to make it real. Thank for you feedback and suggestions, I'm sure your point of view will be taken in consideration by FAmSCo, like all the other ones. Regards Francesco Ugolini "Thousands of voices, one voice", I'm sure this could represent what we are trying to do: make all Ambassadors able to see their Voice represented in the final decision. From frankly3d at gmail.com Sun Sep 14 14:58:33 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:58:33 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> <48CCF867.9040008@fedoraproject.org> <50baabb30809140449l422329e9x7a292a5d37a3b53d@mail.gmail.com> <48CD0077.7000703@gmail.com> <1221395224.21551.12.camel@frank-01> <50baabb30809140650p669b7f8bn1fa5b8d09eb62191@mail.gmail.com> <1221400992.21551.18.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <1221404313.24915.0.camel@frank-01> On Sun, 2008-09-14 at 16:18 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > BTW, FAmSCo is working on a solution based on the > proposals/ideas/doubts posted here: just give us the time to be able > to make this, nobody will be unhappy of the result. No problems waiting on it from me. Fran -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From inode0 at gmail.com Sun Sep 14 15:30:16 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:30:16 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <1221404313.24915.0.camel@frank-01> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <48CCF867.9040008@fedoraproject.org> <50baabb30809140449l422329e9x7a292a5d37a3b53d@mail.gmail.com> <48CD0077.7000703@gmail.com> <1221395224.21551.12.camel@frank-01> <50baabb30809140650p669b7f8bn1fa5b8d09eb62191@mail.gmail.com> <1221400992.21551.18.camel@frank-01> <1221404313.24915.0.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Sun, 2008-09-14 at 16:18 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > >> BTW, FAmSCo is working on a solution based on the >> proposals/ideas/doubts posted here: just give us the time to be able >> to make this, nobody will be unhappy of the result. > > No problems waiting on it from me. I am going to recommend this as a topic for consideration at the FAD in North America next month. I would like to have a discussion there with ambassadors and don't want to rush any decision either. There is no urgency in making this decision in my opinion. John From crossbytes at gmail.com Sun Sep 14 15:36:57 2008 From: crossbytes at gmail.com (Kevin Higgins) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:36:57 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: We joined the group to have a place to get answers to questions and ideas (sugestions) from people that should be able to answer them in a professional and knowledgeable way. If all we wanted was something like a "Suggestion Box" forum we could just do a blog with open comments to all, and I am sure we would have to take it down. WE as crossbytes feel like we are "representing" Fedora so we want to be profesional about it and need a place to get answers, if needed, from "Fedora" not people just intested in Fedora in my opnion that would be like me asking our clients for the answers, makes me look pretty dumb. I think it should stay the way it is...If opening it up is necessary then it should be a separate list for suggestions only...and I feel sorry for the one that would have to sift through all of the spam and bad stuff to get to the 1 or 2 great ideas... I think as Ambassadors it should be us being the filters from the Public to the mailing list.. From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Sep 14 16:33:25 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:33:25 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <50baabb30809140449l422329e9x7a292a5d37a3b53d@mail.gmail.com> <48CD0077.7000703@gmail.com> <1221395224.21551.12.camel@frank-01> <50baabb30809140650p669b7f8bn1fa5b8d09eb62191@mail.gmail.com> <1221400992.21551.18.camel@frank-01> <1221404313.24915.0.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: 2008/9/14 inode0 : > I am going to recommend this as a topic for consideration at the FAD > in North America next month. I would like to have a discussion there > with ambassadors and don't want to rush any decision either. There is > no urgency in making this decision in my opinion. If everyone agree with this proposal I think everyone could be able to take a pause and think about it. Fedora EMEA has a well defined position regarding this issue, BTW, there is still a open discussion in the NA community. I'm asking you to pause (not stop) the discussion until NA ambassadors will meet together and will express their opinion. --------- Please Read It carefully ------------ Just to be clear, that what FAmSCo is working on: First of all: FAmSCo will not change the Ambassadors list status. Experienced people, who are here since the first beginning and helped the project grown, explained well their concerns. FAmSCo though a lot about the consequences: opening the list would mean the lose of a place to discuss about Budget, Mentoring etc., topics that must be discussed only by Ambassadors. It's really impossible to make a comparison between our list and the other ones: Ambassadors List is a tool, not only a communication means. While the other project using CVS (or a Track system) to store their work, we use Ambassadors List to discuss about Budget and to Train/Mentor people: we wouldn't be able to handle such things with CVS or whatever else. Ambassadors List is designed to be used only by Ambassadors, if someone want to work with budget and/or mentoring new Ambassadors has to join Ambassadors Project and became an Ambassador. Just it is. The FAmSCo's plan (but it's still in a draft status) is to create another list where ambassadors could promote their events and fedora contributors could join the discussion. Just an example: "Sempronio (an ambassadors) is organizing an event; the first step he does is to add it in the Event Wiki Page and, then, send an email to Ambassadors list: here he receives the first support from the other ambassadors and can ask for resources, then FAmSCo post (in the same list) the Quarter budget distribution. Sempronio see he receives xxx$ but he says, in the same list, that he needs more for X,Y,Z reasons. He is luck and, after a brief discussion with FAmSCo and the other Ambassadors, he receives zzz$. Now, he is happy but, unfortunately nobody from Ambassadors could help him: he wish to have some talks at the booth and maybe some helpful hands. At this point, he sends an email to Fedora Event List: here he finds someone who can help him organizing the booth and having a speech." Sounds good? This is a quite stupid story, but I hope it gives the idea of What could mean have an Ambassadors list and a Event list. Imagine if during the budget discussion 10 people (not ambassadors) will reply asking "why giving him money?" or however talking where they can't talk (in this case Budget). You may have a question: why someone that isn't an ambassador can't talk about budget? Simple, because if he wants to talk about this one, he has to become an ambassadors. If you don't believe this answer is reasonable there is a question for you: why Ambassadors project exist? Why we are Ambassadors? We are 100% sure that fedora contributors will be happy to give their help in Event list and Ambassadors still continue to be Ambassadors, without losing but solving the communication gap with the whole community. I'll send a more detailed proposal after FAD NA 2008 ---------------- End Of File ---------------------- So, before making it official we want to wait FAD NA 2008, that will be held at the beginning of October (10th, if I'm not wrong). Why wait? The answer it's clear, they have to evaluate all the considerations made by all the Ambassadors and after they will able to give a position over this issue. I think EMEA Ambassadors, or most of them, expressed the position. I hope to listen LATAM (Center America too) and APAC position too. If we will find some iron reasons not to apply FAmSCo draft, stay sure, we will change it. But we are convinced that's the best way to solve this, both for people that are "against" and for people that are "for" the Ambassadors list opening. Regards Francesco Ugolini From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Sun Sep 14 17:09:37 2008 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:09:37 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1830 #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20080914190937.734c86b4@annifrid.mrtomlinux> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2008-09-14 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (14 sept.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'h?sitez pas ? le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent int?ressants. Thomas Canniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wonderer4711 at gmx.de Sun Sep 14 19:38:56 2008 From: wonderer4711 at gmx.de (wonderer) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:38:56 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Systems 21. - 24. Oktober 2008, =?iso-8859-15?q?M=FCnchen?= Message-ID: <48CD6850.90908@gmx.de> Hy there, I have a question mostly for the german guys around here. On request of Gerold I try to plan a straight small Demopoint for the Fedoraproject and OLPC on the systems 2008 in Munich end this month. Does someone have time to help here? More infos about the systems itself could be found at http://systems.de/ . There is no budget so far, therefore its more for the people around Munich or wich can come on there own. Anybody who is interressted please write me a quick, short notice for further planning. best regards Henrik - Fedora Ambassador From david at gnsa.us Sun Sep 14 21:25:41 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:25:41 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] EVENT REPORT: Linux Demo Day, Charleston, SC Message-ID: I traveled to Charleston, SC this morning to represent Fedora at the Linux Demo Day put on by Charleston SC LUG. I arrived just after noon and they had a table setup for me. I put media, business cards, my laptop setup with an xguest account, and an OLPC XO. The event was geared at people who weren't familiar with Linux. About 60 people showed up. Charleston's LUG is relatively new, and this was their first event. They seemed very pleased. I handed about 30 LiveCDs out and talked with a number of Fedora. In addition I spoke to 2-3 people who were intrigued with contributing to Fedora in one way or another. I'll be following up with these individuals. From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Sun Sep 14 21:38:53 2008 From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 03:38:53 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 Release Parties Meeting reminder - Thusday 16th 12.00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/9/14 Francesco Ugolini : > F10 Release Parties Preparatory Meeting will be on Thusday 16th at > 12.00 UTC in #fedora-meetings http://tinyurl.com/6y8p9g is it okay, am I correct? Have a nice day Mahay Alam Khan gpg key: 4FDD30FB Fedora Ambassador Bangladesh ================================= From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Sep 14 22:09:37 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 00:09:37 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 Release Parties Meeting reminder - Thusday 16th 12.00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/9/14 mak : > 2008/9/14 Francesco Ugolini : >> F10 Release Parties Preparatory Meeting will be on Thusday 16th at >> 12.00 UTC in #fedora-meetings > > http://tinyurl.com/6y8p9g is it okay, am I correct? > Yes, it's right. Regards Francesco Ugolini From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Sep 14 22:45:37 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 00:45:37 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Announcing "New Ambassadors Policy" updates Message-ID: Following Joerg Simon, the most active Ambassadors Membership Administrator, proposal, FAmSCo is announcing an update to the "New Ambassadors Policy". According to Joerg email the goals of this update are "to enhance the Quality of New Members experience" and "reduce Introduction Traffic to Ambassador List". FAmSCo, after reviewing all the reasons behind this proposal, agreed to adopt these modifications. Process to become an Ambassador in FAS (Fedora Account System): 1. In the Beginning NO SPONSORING! He gets a Message from Ambassador Membership Service with all the steps including this Imperative Steps: 2. has to subscribe to M-L - (no Intro this is a low traffic list ... in the message) 3. has to make a meaningful Personal WikiPage with his intentions and Introduction 4. has to send a "ready" message with a Link to the Wiki Page to Ambassador Membership Service 5. Ambassador Membership Service collect and report to Famsco periodically for approval of the new potential Ambassador. 6. SPONSORED by Ambassador Membership Service 7. Mail to Ambassador List with Wiki Links of new Members This updates will take effects starting from 2008/09/15 (this Monday). I'm sure New Ambassadors and the Project itself will benefit from these updates. About Ambassadors Membership Administrators (AMA) AMA group is composed by Ambassadors and it's supervised by FAmSCo. It has to accept new Ambassadors and give them the first informations about the project and the action to do to became an Ambassador. Currently it is composed by Joerg Simon, Fabian Affolter and Rodrigo Padula and supervised by FAmSCo chair. If you have questions/doubts/ideas and/or everything connected with AMA please feel free to ask in Ambassadors list. Best regards Francesco Ugolini on Behalf of FAmSCo From frankly3d at gmail.com Mon Sep 15 07:54:03 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:54:03 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Announcing "New Ambassadors Policy" updates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1221465243.2746.6.camel@frank-01> On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 00:45 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > 3. has to make a meaningful Personal WikiPage with his intentions and > Introduction > Important to give some ideas on "meaningful", so for group and new person. It means the same thing. Frank -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From frankly3d at gmail.com Mon Sep 15 07:57:48 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:57:48 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 Release Parties Meeting reminder - Thusday 16th 12.00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1221465468.2746.9.camel@frank-01> On Sun, 2008-09-14 at 13:28 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > F10 Release Parties Preparatory Meeting will be on Thusday 16th at > 12.00 UTC in #fedora-meetings > Apologies in advance. Am back at school tuesday. (1year course) Will check logs after school. Frank -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 15 10:31:08 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:31:08 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Announcing "New Ambassadors Policy" updates In-Reply-To: <1221465243.2746.6.camel@frank-01> References: <1221465243.2746.6.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: 2008/9/15 Frank Murphy : > On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 00:45 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > >> 3. has to make a meaningful Personal WikiPage with his intentions and >> Introduction >> > > Important to give some ideas on "meaningful", > so for group and new person. > It means the same thing. > > Frank Sure. It's just an enforcement of the words after to make clear the goal of that step. This is only the scheme: in the "Welcome message" the sentence it's different. Take a look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService Regards Francesco Ugolini From frankly3d at gmail.com Mon Sep 15 10:42:10 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:42:10 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Announcing "New Ambassadors Policy" updates In-Reply-To: References: <1221465243.2746.6.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <1221475330.2746.49.camel@frank-01> On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 12:31 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > Sure. It's just an enforcement of the words after to make clear the > goal of that step. ok, > > This is only the scheme: in the "Welcome message" the sentence it's > different. Take a look at > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService > For consideration I would ask that: "List Subscription Requirement" be made longer than 24 hours, to allow for the ppl who may be in transit for their work, or temporarily inaccessible to net. Maybe 48\72 Hours? Forgive me for always being "Devils Advocate" Frank -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 15 11:31:33 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:31:33 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Announcing "New Ambassadors Policy" updates In-Reply-To: <1221475330.2746.49.camel@frank-01> References: <1221475330.2746.49.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <200809151331.38032.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Montag, 15. September 2008 12:42:10 schrieb Frank Murphy: > On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 12:31 +0200, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > > Sure. It's just an enforcement of the words after to make clear the > > goal of that step. > ok, > > This is only the scheme: in the "Welcome message" the sentence it's > > different. Take a look at > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService > For consideration I would ask that: > "List Subscription Requirement" > be made longer than 24 hours, > to allow for the ppl who may be in transit for their work, > or temporarily inaccessible to net. > Maybe 48\72 Hours? I was on the way to change that, because in the past it has proven that it is better practice and better manageable to reject the Mailing List Subscribtion immediately with a message - so someone can apply after signing CLA and the necessary steps with all the time he need. CU -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From stickster at gmail.com Mon Sep 15 12:55:48 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:55:48 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] EVENT REPORT: Linux Demo Day, Charleston, SC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080915125548.GA13453@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 05:25:41PM -0400, David Nalley wrote: > I traveled to Charleston, SC this morning to represent Fedora at the > Linux Demo Day put on by Charleston SC LUG. > I arrived just after noon and they had a table setup for me. I put > media, business cards, my laptop setup with an xguest account, and an > OLPC XO. The event was geared at people who weren't familiar with > Linux. About 60 people showed up. Charleston's LUG is relatively new, > and this was their first event. They seemed very pleased. I handed > about 30 LiveCDs out and talked with a number of Fedora. In addition I > spoke to 2-3 people who were intrigued with contributing to Fedora in > one way or another. I'll be following up with these individuals. As always, very impressed by your energy and initiative Dave. Great job! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rishikesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 16 11:31:32 2008 From: rishikesh at fedoraproject.org (Rishikesh Sharma) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:01:32 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Software for Creating New fonts for Linux Message-ID: <7cb778c60809160431v5393d82et97462657cbc21a14@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, I want to create a new font and i don't know any open source linux software to create fonts. I would like to create a font for linux in my script that is called "Meitei Mayek", a traditional manipuri script. Please guide me how to create new fonts so that i can contribute fonst in my script "Meitei Mayek" for fedora. Regards, Rishikesh Sharma Fedora Ambassador, Manipur, India. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stickster at gmail.com Tue Sep 16 11:37:52 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:37:52 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Software for Creating New fonts for Linux In-Reply-To: <7cb778c60809160431v5393d82et97462657cbc21a14@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60809160431v5393d82et97462657cbc21a14@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1221565072.23779.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 17:01 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > Hi All, > > I want to create a new font and i don't know any open source linux > software to create fonts. I would like to create a font for linux in > my script that is called "Meitei Mayek", a traditional manipuri > script. Please guide me how to create new fonts so that i can > contribute fonst in my script "Meitei Mayek" for fedora. I know of "fontforge," but there may be other software for this purpose too. The Artwork team might be the right group to ask; they're on IRC Freenode at #fedora-art. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From frankly3d at gmail.com Tue Sep 16 11:41:15 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:41:15 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Software for Creating New fonts for Linux In-Reply-To: <7cb778c60809160431v5393d82et97462657cbc21a14@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60809160431v5393d82et97462657cbc21a14@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1221565275.20709.3.camel@frank-01> On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 17:01 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > Hi All, > > I want to create a new font and i don't know any open source linux > software to create fonts. I would like to create a font for linux in > my script that is called "Meitei Mayek", a traditional manipuri > script. Please guide me how to create new fonts so that i can > contribute fonst in my script "Meitei Mayek" for fedora. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts Would probably give some advise. FRank > -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Tue Sep 16 11:41:21 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:11:21 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Software for Creating New fonts for Linux In-Reply-To: <1221565072.23779.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <7cb778c60809160431v5393d82et97462657cbc21a14@mail.gmail.com> <1221565072.23779.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <48CF9B61.5090405@gmail.com> Paul W. Frields wrote: > I know of "fontforge," but there may be other software for this purpose > too. The Artwork team might be the right group to ask; they're on IRC > Freenode at #fedora-art. To add to this, I passed the mail to the fedora-india list since a number of the Fedora i18n folks doing Indic i18n and font work are subscribed there -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 16 12:07:45 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:07:45 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Release Parties Preparatory Meeting is here, right now in fedora-meeting channel Message-ID: Just a reminder for people who forget it :) Regards Francesco Ugolini From barbacchi at tiscali.it Tue Sep 16 12:53:07 2008 From: barbacchi at tiscali.it (Personale) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:53:07 +0200 Subject: R: [Ambassadors] Software for Creating New fonts for Linux In-Reply-To: <1221565072.23779.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <7cb778c60809160431v5393d82et97462657cbc21a14@mail.gmail.com> <1221565072.23779.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <7C48516DCF8F46B298E675D5F206215A@mercurioliv.lan> Very very interesting...... -----Messaggio originale----- Da: fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com] Per conto di Paul W. Frields Inviato: marted? 16 settembre 2008 13.38 A: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Oggetto: Re: [Ambassadors] Software for Creating New fonts for Linux On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 17:01 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > Hi All, > > I want to create a new font and i don't know any open source linux > software to create fonts. I would like to create a font for linux in > my script that is called "Meitei Mayek", a traditional manipuri > script. Please guide me how to create new fonts so that i can > contribute fonst in my script "Meitei Mayek" for fedora. I know of "fontforge," but there may be other software for this purpose too. The Artwork team might be the right group to ask; they're on IRC Freenode at #fedora-art. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From b.rahul.pm at gmail.com Tue Sep 16 13:18:34 2008 From: b.rahul.pm at gmail.com (Rahul Bhalerao) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:48:34 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Software for Creating New fonts for Linux In-Reply-To: <7cb778c60809160431v5393d82et97462657cbc21a14@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60809160431v5393d82et97462657cbc21a14@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/16 Rishikesh Sharma : > Hi All, > > I want to create a new font and i don't know any open source linux software > to create fonts. I would like to create a font for linux in my script that > is called "Meitei Mayek", a traditional manipuri script. Please guide me how > to create new fonts so that i can contribute fonst in my script "Meitei > Mayek" for fedora. > You can use "fontforge" for creating the font. It has good documentation and tutorial on font development here http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/ . "Meitei Mayek" character set is not yet encoded in the Unicode (in case you don't know about encoding standards, you may refer www.unicode.org), but even creating a font without encoding is a good starting step to get the activities going up for the script. -- Rahul. http://b.rahul.pm.googlepages.com/home - http://rahulpmb.blogspot.com - http://samadiyami.blogspot.com - http://mazikavita.blogspot.com From rishikesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 16 13:48:38 2008 From: rishikesh at fedoraproject.org (Rishikesh Sharma) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:18:38 +0530 Subject: R: [Ambassadors] Software for Creating New fonts for Linux In-Reply-To: <7C48516DCF8F46B298E675D5F206215A@mercurioliv.lan> References: <7cb778c60809160431v5393d82et97462657cbc21a14@mail.gmail.com> <1221565072.23779.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <7C48516DCF8F46B298E675D5F206215A@mercurioliv.lan> Message-ID: <7cb778c60809160648w74013ae8n794bb97dd63dd9b9@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Paul W. Frields for your valuable support. On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Personale wrote: > Very very interesting...... > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com] Per conto di Paul W. > Frields > Inviato: marted? 16 settembre 2008 13.38 > A: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Oggetto: Re: [Ambassadors] Software for Creating New fonts for Linux > > On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 17:01 +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I want to create a new font and i don't know any open source linux > > software to create fonts. I would like to create a font for linux in > > my script that is called "Meitei Mayek", a traditional manipuri > > script. Please guide me how to create new fonts so that i can > > contribute fonst in my script "Meitei Mayek" for fedora. > > I know of "fontforge," but there may be other software for this purpose > too. The Artwork team might be the right group to ask; they're on IRC > Freenode at #fedora-art. > > -- > Paul W. Frields > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rishikesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 16 13:49:13 2008 From: rishikesh at fedoraproject.org (Rishikesh Sharma) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:19:13 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Software for Creating New fonts for Linux In-Reply-To: References: <7cb778c60809160431v5393d82et97462657cbc21a14@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7cb778c60809160649g2ebde157h336a3b801939feb3@mail.gmail.com> Thanks again Rahul for your support. On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Rahul Bhalerao wrote: > 2008/9/16 Rishikesh Sharma : > > Hi All, > > > > I want to create a new font and i don't know any open source linux > software > > to create fonts. I would like to create a font for linux in my script > that > > is called "Meitei Mayek", a traditional manipuri script. Please guide me > how > > to create new fonts so that i can contribute fonst in my script "Meitei > > Mayek" for fedora. > > > > You can use "fontforge" for creating the font. It has good > documentation and tutorial on font development here > http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/ . > "Meitei Mayek" character set is not yet encoded in the Unicode (in > case you don't know about encoding standards, you may refer > www.unicode.org), but even creating a font without encoding is a good > starting step to get the activities going up for the script. > > > -- > Rahul. > http://b.rahul.pm.googlepages.com/home > - http://rahulpmb.blogspot.com > - http://samadiyami.blogspot.com > - http://mazikavita.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 16 14:11:31 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:11:31 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] IMPORTANT: F10 Release Parties deadlines Message-ID: To the Release Events Parties Owners who need some founds for their Release Party, It's important to know an estimated cost preview for your Release Events Party. Please, to guarantee a transparent evaluation of budget requests, write the reason for your preview (don't post I need nnn$ and stop). The deadline is September 30th (2008/09/30), after that date, if the interested people will haven't posted their F10 Release Party budget preview (both in Ambassadors and FAmSCo list), will not be able to ask for budget sponsorship for their own F10 release events. Only people who have added their event in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseParty/F10 before September 14th are qualified to post their budget cost estimation. A small disclaimer: Posting you estimated cost preview will not guarantee that FAmSCo will give monetary support: we, with the big help of CA, are working hard trying to figure out how many resources we can distribute and try to make it according to the owner budget preview. Just to save some money, and from a personal experience point of view, I invite you to follow those three gold rules: 1. search for a free place: a library, a university room or another free space are well enough to create an exciting and Fedora-like event! 2. have a real estimation on how many people could attend it (maybe sending some email to your local LUG list) 3. focus on Live USB Creation stations or network installation. CD/DVD are great, but if the event is soon after the Release Date is quite difficult (if not impossible) to have it. I apologize for the inconvenience, I can assure next time FAmSCo will better organize Fedora Release Events according to this experience and the feedback we hope to receive from the community. Best regards Francesco Ugolini p.s. The first part of the email is not intended for people who have received their budget for the release event (see fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommitte/Budget to see who have just received money). From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 16 14:33:55 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:33:55 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] IMPORTANT: F10 Release Parties deadlines In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > To the Release Events Parties Owners who need some founds for their > Release Party, > > It's important to know an estimated cost preview for your Release Events Party. > > Please, to guarantee a transparent evaluation of budget requests, > write the reason for your preview (don't post I need nnn$ and stop). > > The deadline is September 30th (2008/09/30), after that date, if the > interested people will haven't posted their F10 Release Party budget > preview (both in Ambassadors and FAmSCo list), will not be able to ask > for budget sponsorship for their own F10 release events. Only people > who have added their event in > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseParty/F10 before > September 14th are qualified to post their budget cost estimation. > > A small disclaimer: > > Posting you estimated cost preview will not guarantee that FAmSCo will > give monetary support: we, with the big help of CA, are working hard > trying to figure out how many resources we can distribute and try to > make it according to the owner budget preview. > > Just to save some money, and from a personal experience point of view, > I invite you to follow those three gold rules: > > 1. search for a free place: a library, a university room or another > free space are well enough to create an exciting and Fedora-like > event! > 2. have a real estimation on how many people could attend it (maybe > sending some email to your local LUG list) > 3. focus on Live USB Creation stations or network installation. CD/DVD > are great, but if the event is soon after the Release Date is quite > difficult (if not impossible) to have it. > > I apologize for the inconvenience, I can assure next time FAmSCo will > better organize Fedora Release Events according to this experience and > the feedback we hope to receive from the community. > > Best regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > p.s. The first part of the email is not intended for people who have > received their budget for the release event (see > fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommitte/Budget to see who > have just received money). > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > The url above is incorrect. It should be: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Budget Cheers, Clint From shambo.linux at gmail.com Tue Sep 16 18:59:52 2008 From: shambo.linux at gmail.com (Shambo Bose) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:29:52 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Release Parties Preparatory Meeting is here, right now in fedora-meeting channel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > > Just a reminder for people who forget it :) > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Sorry can't attend the meeting as timing clashed with College classes . I am waiting eagerly for the logs . Please tell me where I can find the logs. Thank You Yours sincerly, Shambo Bose From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 16 19:18:15 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:18:15 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Release Parties Preparatory Meeting is here, right now in fedora-meeting channel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/9/16 Shambo Bose : > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Francesco Ugolini > wrote: >> >> Just a reminder for people who forget it :) >> >> Regards >> >> Francesco Ugolini >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Sorry can't attend the meeting as timing clashed with College classes > . I am waiting eagerly for the logs . Please tell me where I can find > the logs. > No problems. Just take a look at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00375.html Regards Francesco Ugolini From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 16 22:25:12 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:25:12 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMNA Meeting Tonight - 21:00 ETD (01:00 UTC) Message-ID: Just a quick reminder that we'll be holding our weekly meeting in #fedora-meeting (irc.freenode.net) tonight at 9pm EDT (01:00 UTC) If you are interested in participating, or have something to contribute, feel free to add it to our agenda http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-16 See you all there. Cheers, Clint PS - As for me, I'll be able to be there for the first 45 minutes or so and would love to discuss FAD - NA and EvenBox progress that are on my list. From jtaber at plandecsys.com Wed Sep 17 02:32:07 2008 From: jtaber at plandecsys.com (John Taber) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:32:07 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] ambassador stuff - college campuses Message-ID: <48D06C27.2040700@plandecsys.com> Hi folks, just wanted to say that I'm going to excuse myself from the ambassador list - I will not have the time to fly out to the Columbus FAD meeting and participate in some of the things you want ambassadors to do but will continue to be a big Linux/FOSS advocate and campus point of contact. On campus this semester I have already given out all of my dvd's to my students, have figured out for other faculty and students that we don't need to use Vista for our "Vista Blackboard" classroom mgmt system since it runs with Java 6 installed on Fedora/Linux (and maybe using "iced tea" but haven't tried it yet), and trying to encourage students to use gcc as their compiler of choice (which it should be, it's simply better!). I've also introduced them to version control as the first step to encouraging them to participate in open source projects (since they need to know how to check out and submit code). I see 2 main initiatives that are needed for campuses: 1) an on-line faculty LUG where faculty can share experiences, tips, etc and provide a point of distribution for dvd's, some fun schwag, etc 2)the formation of student run FUG's/LUG's (with faculty reps) - the student groups are really the springboard for installfests, release parties, etc. I think some sort of "campus box" is needed prior to each semester that will have stuff for faculty and the student groups to give out and provide for the student groups to run a couple of installfests. Maybe Fedora can sponsor these mail lists / campus lug web sites ? Maybe student lug webmasters get a free Fedora T-shirt, ball cap and maybe some other recognition... One of the biggest stumbling blocks that I still encounter for students, faculty, and others in the corp world is the perceived fear of trying to install Fedora/Linux, even as a dual-boot system and frankly even to boot as a live-CD. People are just scared their system is going to be messed up and they will be unable to work and in big trouble. We need a web page that can be printed as a simple flyer with good, simple graphics to hand out with dvd's that eases this fear, especially to deal with the "dreaded" disk partitioning. From a marketing standpoint, one of the biggest features we can request from the core team is to develop some sort of on-the-fly partitioning in the install procedure. I will be happy to continue working on these goals so feel free to stay in touch and email me at drjohn.taber at gmail.com From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Sep 17 10:24:43 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:24:43 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Personal absence from September 20th to September 27th Message-ID: Due to a ship training, I will be out from September 20th to September 27th. Apologizing for that Francesco Ugolini From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Sep 17 11:07:09 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:07:09 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] ambassador stuff - college campuses In-Reply-To: <48D06C27.2040700@plandecsys.com> References: <48D06C27.2040700@plandecsys.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/17 John Taber : > Hi folks, just wanted to say that I'm going to excuse myself from the > ambassador list - I will not have the time to fly out to the Columbus FAD > meeting and participate in some of the things you want ambassadors to do but > will continue to be a big Linux/FOSS advocate and campus point of contact. > > On campus this semester I have already given out all of my dvd's to my > students, have figured out for other faculty and students that we don't need > to use Vista for our "Vista Blackboard" classroom mgmt system since it runs > with Java 6 installed on Fedora/Linux (and maybe using "iced tea" but > haven't tried it yet), and trying to encourage students to use gcc as their > compiler of choice (which it should be, it's simply better!). I've also > introduced them to version control as the first step to encouraging them to > participate in open source projects (since they need to know how to check > out and submit code). > I see 2 main initiatives that are needed for campuses: 1) an on-line faculty > LUG where faculty can share experiences, tips, etc and provide a point of > distribution for dvd's, some fun schwag, etc 2)the formation of student run > FUG's/LUG's (with faculty reps) - the student groups are really the > springboard for installfests, release parties, etc. I think some sort of > "campus box" is needed prior to each semester that will have stuff for > faculty and the student groups to give out and provide for the student > groups to run a couple of installfests. Maybe Fedora can sponsor these mail > lists / campus lug web sites ? Maybe student lug webmasters get a free > Fedora T-shirt, ball cap and maybe some other recognition... > > One of the biggest stumbling blocks that I still encounter for students, > faculty, and others in the corp world is the perceived fear of trying to > install Fedora/Linux, even as a dual-boot system and frankly even to boot as > a live-CD. People are just scared their system is going to be messed up and > they will be unable to work and in big trouble. We need a web page that can > be printed as a simple flyer with good, simple graphics to hand out with > dvd's that eases this fear, especially to deal with the "dreaded" disk > partitioning. From a marketing standpoint, one of the biggest features we > can request from the core team is to develop some sort of on-the-fly > partitioning in the install procedure. > I will be happy to continue working on these goals so feel free to stay in > touch and email me at drjohn.taber at gmail.com > Thank you for this important feedback and for the great work you are doing trying to convince people using Open Source alternative, Fedora OS too. Regards Francesco Ugolini From cmpahar at gmail.com Wed Sep 17 11:10:38 2008 From: cmpahar at gmail.com (Christos Bacharakis) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:10:38 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Personal absence from September 20th to September 27th In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Francesco Ugolini < fugolini at fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Due to a ship training, I will be out from September 20th to September > 27th. > > Apologizing for that > > Francesco Ugolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Have a nice week and training too! :) -- Christos Bacharakis cmpahar at fedoraproject.org http://cmpahar.wordpress.com GPG Key: CCFA0AEB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lajjr at yahoo.com Wed Sep 17 12:37:03 2008 From: lajjr at yahoo.com (Leo Jackson) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 05:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora disks Message-ID: <362410.92341.qm@web84308.mail.re1.yahoo.com> To All Hope I'm Breaking Any Rules, I was in the office the other day. An employee asked me a question. Here goes what happened I was holding an open house to invite new employees to work for my company. An the people filled out applications I told them to hand out fedora 9 disks for free. I can freely get the download or purchase or ask for the disks for me. In the disks it says plain text I can distribute, modify etc. I did not do any of that I just got the disks verified the disks and handed them out. I also gave the info sheet for the people to get info from the web and verify it themselves. Someone came to my employees saying I can't give them out is this true. And if so what is the point of free distribution? Thank You, Leo Albert Jackson Jr Owner Head Programmer LJ's Electronics and Software From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Wed Sep 17 13:04:47 2008 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:04:47 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora disks In-Reply-To: <362410.92341.qm@web84308.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <362410.92341.qm@web84308.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51459.VwABDVdRC3c=.1221656687.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> > Someone came to my employees saying I can't give them out is this true. If it were, we would all have trouble. After all, that's what we do in release events: we install Fedora on others computers, and if they want, we give them Fedora liveCDs / installation DVDs. > And if so what is the point of free distribution? If you're contributing to it, you know the point. Do not fear the FUDers, they are wrong. ;) Regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin From lajjr at yahoo.com Wed Sep 17 13:44:48 2008 From: lajjr at yahoo.com (Leo Jackson) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora disks In-Reply-To: <362410.92341.qm@web84308.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <461835.49234.qm@web84308.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Good because when we go to our meetings we have 80% fedora users and on workstations and laptops if employee is with us for three months (90 days) and they are staying we give them a laptop with fedora and the software that we use. Leo Albert Jackson Jr Owner Head Programmer LJ's Electronics and Software From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Wed Sep 17 13:47:33 2008 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:47:33 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora disks In-Reply-To: <461835.49234.qm@web84308.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <461835.49234.qm@web84308.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <36648.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221659253.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> > Good because when we go to our meetings we have 80% fedora users and on > workstations and laptops if employee is with us for three months (90 days) > and they are staying we give them a laptop with fedora and the software > that we use. Well, of course you only distribute software of which licenses allow you to distribute them, right ? For example, Fedora doesn't distribute some software because they are not free, or because their license doesn't allow for distribution in an other way that official distribution. You can't distribute those software either. However, inside of a company, I don't think it is still distribution, and licenses might apply differently. As long as you distribute Fedora media, you have nothing to worry. If you distribute respins media and have a doubt on the legal issues, just ask the Spin SIG or the legal team, they will provide much better advice than what we can here. Regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin From shambo.linux at gmail.com Wed Sep 17 14:43:45 2008 From: shambo.linux at gmail.com (Shambo Bose) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:13:45 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Personal absence from September 20th to September 27th In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Have a nice training. Best of Luck regards Shambo Bose From lajjr at yahoo.com Wed Sep 17 14:44:46 2008 From: lajjr at yahoo.com (Leo Jackson) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora disks In-Reply-To: <36648.VwBUX1dRCno=.1221659253.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: <826178.10480.qm@web84307.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Well, of course but we also use in-house software that we created. We are going to make available to fedora through GPL v2 and or GPL v3 all free to use distro etc.. Nothing except fedora packages and updates etc. whole reason I became an Ambassador and also shooting for development and packaging etc. Leo Albert Jackson Jr Owner Head Programmer LJ's Electronics and Software --- On Wed, 9/17/08, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: > From: Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora disks > To: lajjr at yahoo.com, fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Cc: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 9:47 AM > > Good because when we go to our meetings we have 80% > fedora users and on > > workstations and laptops if employee is with us for > three months (90 days) > > and they are staying we give them a laptop with fedora > and the software > > that we use. > > Well, of course you only distribute software of which > licenses allow you > to distribute them, right ? > > For example, Fedora doesn't distribute some software > because they are not > free, or because their license doesn't allow for > distribution in an other > way that official distribution. You can't distribute > those software > either. > > However, inside of a company, I don't think it is still > distribution, and > licenses might apply differently. > > As long as you distribute Fedora media, you have nothing to > worry. If you > distribute respins media and have a doubt on the legal > issues, just ask > the Spin SIG or the legal team, they will provide much > better advice than > what we can here. > > Regards, > > > ---------- > > Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) > French Fedora Ambassador > > ---------- > "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a > little temporary > safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin > Franklin From bpowell01 at gmail.com Wed Sep 17 16:10:31 2008 From: bpowell01 at gmail.com (Brian Powell) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:10:31 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2008-09-16 Message-ID: <96365e610809170910u3b62b30amca30bf358d5c264e@mail.gmail.com> 21:01-!- herlo changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Ambassadors North America Meeting -- Starting now 21:02< herlo> roll call 21:02 * herlo is Clint Savage 21:02 * ke4qqq is here 21:02 * quaid is Karsten Wade 21:02 * DemonJester Brian Powell 21:03< lajjr> lajjr is here 21:04< ke4qqq> ok......iwolf doesn't appear to be here - so guess there is no famsco report 21:04< herlo> erg... 21:04-!- crossbytes [n=crossbyt at fedora/crossbytes] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:04 * herlo misses iWolf 21:04< ke4qqq> erg?? 21:04< herlo> that is all 21:05< ke4qqq> so FAD - which inode0 and herlo will tell us about 21:05-!- herlo changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Ambassadors North America (FAmNA) Meeting -- Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-16 21:06-!- inode0 [n=inode0 at fedora/inode0] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:06< herlo> ke4qqq: haha, well I missed most of it DemonJester and inode0 were really the ones in charge of that 21:07< ke4qqq> inode0: DemonJester: what can you tell us about FADNA 21:07< DemonJester> inode0: you first? 21:07< inode0> another chance to embarrass myself 21:08< inode0> am I in the right channel now? 21:08< herlo> yes 21:08< DemonJester> yep 21:08< inode0> ok 21:08< inode0> We are trying to get a basic agenda organized although we'll be flexible 21:09< inode0> some important topics are listed on the wiki now 21:09< inode0> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADNA2008 21:09 * herlo was too slow 21:10< inode0> some are still missing but will be added 21:10< herlo> one of the things I'd like to see on the agenda is a suggested schedule for Sunday 21:10< inode0> including a serious discussion of the budget 21:10-!- jtaber [n=front at 68-27-236-157.area1.spcsdns.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:10< inode0> yes, you prepared a rough draft and we'll get one added 21:10< herlo> since some of us will be flying out that day, I'd like to make sure they can plan to be there for the most they can... 21:11< herlo> inode0: sorry, forgot protocol 21:12< inode0> one question I guess that is still up in the air is do we want all meetings on Sunday AM or do we want to try to schedule some before that? 21:12-!- karlie [n=karlie at 24.213.132.169] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:12-!- karlie [n=karlie at 24.213.132.169] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:12< inode0> we could probably find an hour or two on Friday and Saturday 21:13 * herlo can guarantee that he will not be there before 8pm on Friday but would be willing to stay up a little later if necessary 21:14-!- spoleeba [n=one at fedora/Jef] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:14 * inode0 would like to enjoy as much of OLF on Saturday as possible too 21:14< inode0> is 4 hours a comfortable amount for meetings on Sunday? 21:15 * herlo thinks that's all we're gonna get 21:15< inode0> fun is up in the air too 21:15< herlo> its not like the meeting couldn't go longer after lunch in a more formal state 21:15< herlo> s/more/less/ 21:15< inode0> should we try for Saturday dinner? 21:16< herlo> http://www.ohiolinux.org/schedule.html 21:16< herlo> not sure how this might help 21:16< ke4qqq> what about saturday really late night 21:16< ke4qqq> it's not like we plan on sleeping much right? 21:16< herlo> ke4qqq: are you suggesting that instead of meeting sunday morning, we stay up late on Saturday and meet? 21:16< herlo> or just have fun? 21:16< ke4qqq> no fun/socialize/get to know everyone ftf 21:17< ke4qqq> rather that should be 21:17< herlo> ftf? 21:17< ke4qqq> no, fun/socialize/get to know everyone ftf 21:17< ke4qqq> face to face 21:17< herlo> ahh 21:17-!- coestar1 [n=justin at wsip-98-174-230-194.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:17< inode0> dinner, have some bacon after bacon talks? party? 21:17< herlo> jono's talk, if the same, is pretty cool 21:18< ke4qqq> lol 21:18-!- coestar [n=justin at wsip-98-174-230-194.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:18< herlo> I've also seen zonker's talk, very good too actually :) 21:18 * herlo goes back to being on-topic 21:18< inode0> well, is this the FAD planning meeting or should we schedule one to focus on it exclusively? 21:19< ke4qqq> thought we had one - we prolly need more and we need more involvement. 21:19< herlo> could be... 21:19< inode0> perhaps a Friday evening get together is possible too, I will be free that evening 21:21< DemonJester> It really comes down to how many are really attending in my opinion. 21:21< inode0> I'll be in town on Thursday actually if anyone else is ... 21:22< DemonJester> I am rolling in sometime Friday. 21:23< inode0> I would suggest we try to clean this up so we can better advertise it with some details 21:23< DemonJester> How many are we hoping will attend the FAD event. Being realistic. 15-20? 21:24< inode0> that would be a nice number to get I think 21:24< herlo> 8-10 is more likely 21:24< inode0> maybe high 21:24< herlo> I mean there's me, ke4qqq, inode0, vwbusguy, DemonJester and that's all I know for now 21:24< herlo> oh, and iWolf 21:25-!- brianhenson [n=bhenson at 75-167-155-169.bois.qwest.net] has quit [] 21:25< inode0> pascal 21:25< herlo> ah, so that's like 6 already 21:25< DemonJester> speaking of pascal does anyone know if he got the polo's ordered? I still havent seen an invoice yet. 21:25< inode0> one other I don't know chicagonpg? 21:25< DemonJester> sorry off topic.. 21:26< inode0> will be on-topic shortly 21:26 * inode0 moves we table this and complete tonight's agenda - discussion can return to FAD at the end time permitting 21:27< DemonJester> +1 21:27 * ke4qqq cedes the meeting to inode0 and lets him run it. 21:27< inode0> what did I miss? :) 21:27< inode0> we are on tasks now? 21:28< DemonJester> in which channel? ;) 21:28< inode0> that too :) 21:28< ke4qqq> works for me 21:28< inode0> so I don't see pascal around now, we'll have to check with him later 21:28< inode0> Ambassador Kit news? 21:29< herlo> uh, okay 21:29< inode0> Ambassador Kit Hackfest news? 21:29< herlo> so I'm still working the details, but mizmo said she'll be there and seemed interested in the idea 21:29< ke4qqq> ? 21:30< inode0> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConF11#Hackfest_sessions 21:30< inode0> can you tell us what the idea is herlo? 21:30< herlo> the general idea is to hack together an entire ambassadorkit by the end of FUDCon 21:31-!- LinuxKnight [n=LinuxKni at fedora/LinuxKnight] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:31< herlo> in other words, we bring the things we need, stickers, CDs, buttons, tshirts, etc 21:32< inode0> crucial part is getting some art on the display box and that can be accomplished there 21:32< ke4qqq> will we have CDs by then? 21:32< herlo> ke4qqq: no, but its a beta 21:32< herlo> inode0: agreed 21:32< herlo> I want to put it together with F9 21:33< herlo> and have it a proof of concept, sound good? 21:33< ke4qqq> yep 21:33< inode0> will be great to just have a kit - we'll be able to see what is good about it and find out what might be better 21:34< inode0> whatever it ends up being ambassadors are going to greatly appreciate it 21:34< inode0> shall we move to event box + transfer policy? 21:34< herlo> sure 21:34< herlo> its not changed 21:34< herlo> I've not done anything yet as I am in the process of building the eventbox first 21:34< herlo> almost there too 21:35< herlo> have a ups pick up tomorrow morning for a pelican 1610 21:35< inode0> that is news :) 21:35< herlo> then I can put all the pieces in there and start getting the rest put in there.. 21:35< inode0> ok, XOs are apparently on their way to someone 21:36< inode0> for inclusion in event boxes 21:36< herlo> right, so probably can assemble at OLF 21:36< inode0> no updates on other hardware 21:37< inode0> we might discuss other small hardware needs as I'm pretty sure some of us would volunteer to bring it 21:37< inode0> maybe a volunteer column on the wiki to say I'll bring an contribute X, Y, and Z for the boxes? 21:38< herlo> ooh, that'd be cool 21:38 * quaid got called away to the phone for Fedora desktop support, is back 21:38< DemonJester> I would put suggested or needed items so others know what we are looking for 21:38< inode0> we have a page with that keeps getting refined now 21:39< herlo> inode0: you mean the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox 21:39< herlo> page? 21:39< inode0> yes 21:40< herlo> except it doesn't list what we have atm 21:40< herlo> should we add a column 21:40< inode0> let's be clear if we are making 3 or 4 boxes so we know how many to get 21:40< herlo> I think we should build one and then work for the next 21:40-!- lajjr [n=lajjr at 71.181.217.163] has left #fedora-meeting [] 21:40< inode0> maybe with each item have a quantity needed column? 21:40< herlo> one will give us an idea of what we need and what we don't 21:41< herlo> inode0: with the exception of the clerical stuff at the bottom, the number is 1 21:41< inode0> per box, is that 3 or 4? 21:41< herlo> per box 21:42-!- ianweller_afk is now known as ianweller 21:42-!- lajjr [n=lajjr at 71.181.217.163] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:42< inode0> right, I'm asking if we are trying to provision 3 boxes or 4 boxes now? 21:42< herlo> 1 21:42< herlo> so the problem with trying to provision 3 or 4 boxes up front is that we need to figure out the budget for them 21:42< ke4qqq> we want to do 4 eventually 21:42< inode0> hrm, if I go buy power strips I'd just as soon buy one for each box 21:42< herlo> until we have one, how will we know what to put in them? 21:43< inode0> we don't really need the budget if volunteers are giving us the stuff, or until we see what they give us 21:43< herlo> I guess 21:43< inode0> we got 4 XOx so I guess 4 21:44< herlo> what are you going ot put them in? the Pelican 1610 is not free 21:44< inode0> we need budget for that :) 21:44< herlo> and laptoplets 21:44< herlo> and and posters 21:44< herlo> and routers (likely) 21:45< inode0> notebooks will probably not be purchased I wouldn't think, we'll use our own if we can't get them donated 21:45< herlo> I mean, the thought is that for now, we can ship one around and start adding to it, but I'm happy to have more 21:45< herlo> inode0: sure, for now... 21:45< inode0> right, ok 21:46< DemonJester> I may be able to work something out with the routers, let me look into that for next meeting. 21:46< inode0> so let's just go with a volunteer column and I'll start filling it in 21:46< inode0> we have one router now I think that ke4qqq got somewhere?! 21:46< ke4qqq> yes 21:46 * herlo sees a task for DemonJester 21:46< DemonJester> I may be able to get the rest at little to no cost. 21:47< herlo> k 21:47< inode0> I think we can move this forward this week 21:47-!- lajjr [n=lajjr at 71.181.217.163] has left #fedora-meeting [] 21:47< herlo> inode0: add DemonJester to a task :) 21:47< herlo> routers for eventbox 21:47< herlo> btw, I should mention that the tasks page has moved 21:47< inode0> let's talk media 21:47 * DemonJester accepts task :) 21:47< herlo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks#Assigned_Tasks 21:48< inode0> iWolf here? 21:49< inode0> blog update then? 21:49 * herlo blogged :) 21:50< inode0> planet coming along? finished? 21:50< herlo> also, I built a "I'm going to FAD - NA" button to put on your next blog post! 21:50< inode0> yes, nice 21:50< herlo> inode0: lcafiero is up, saw his blog post today 21:50< inode0> ok, last task to cover is tracking 21:51< herlo> tracking? 21:51< herlo> oh 21:51< herlo> event tracking 21:51< inode0> I see we have a starter page for event tracking 21:51< herlo> yes, we do 21:52< herlo> we should do this at the end of every FAMNA meeting 21:52< herlo> because I don't think we'll be able to do it anywhere else 21:52< inode0> do what? what are we doing? 21:52< herlo> any time, rather 21:52< herlo> inode0: okay, so this is a long explanation, so bear with me 21:53< herlo> the idea is that we're getting much more events than that are being put on the event page 21:53< herlo> so we're going to track any/all events we know aobut where fedora was presented. 21:53< herlo> while we're going to encourage others to participate and blog or mail, not everyone does that 21:54< herlo> so the idea here is to track all events in our region by putting them on the EventTracking page 21:54-!- nman64 [n=n-man at fedora/nman64] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:55< DemonJester> ? 21:55< ke4qqq> hmmmmmm I think this is something that the regionals should track 21:55< herlo> ke4qqq: right 21:55< herlo> just the regional ambassadors 21:55< ke4qqq> as someone who just did 2 small events, and has 2 more this week - the last thing I want to do is have yet another places (aside from blog and email) where I have to fill something out 21:55< inode0> why? if anyone sees something why not add it? 21:56< herlo> inode0: could you clarify your question? 21:56< inode0> well, I understood we would check in with ambassadors in our areas from time to time and report back about things they were doing 21:57-!- karlie [n=karlie at 24.213.132.169] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:57< herlo> oh, well that's part of it for sure 21:57< inode0> but if DemonJester sees Fedora at some event we haven't tracked why not go ahead and add it? why just regionals? 21:57< herlo> but we should be tracking events in our region for sure 21:57< herlo> oh, its fine if other add it, i see your point now 21:58< inode0> sort of part of the mission of regionals to keep an eye on this though 21:58< DemonJester> but a little help never hurts either ;) 21:58< herlo> I was just saying its part of our duties, but if others do it, that's great 21:59< inode0> I'm not clear on whether this is for extra events or all events 22:00< inode0> back to ke4qqq's point I think 22:01< herlo> all 22:01< herlo> its still kind of an idea 22:01< herlo> not really implemented 22:01< herlo> but it will hopefully get more notice for FAMNA and that's what we want 22:01< inode0> right, it is a good idea to have this collected in one place 22:01 * herlo has to run so, anything else? 22:02< inode0> a little bad if ambassadors need to report is three places or more 22:02< inode0> let's all give this some thought for next week? 22:02< inode0> thanks herlo 22:02< herlo> sure, ciao 22:02 * herlo heads out 22:02< DemonJester> see ya herlo 22:02< inode0> any other tasks? 22:03< inode0> if not, open floor 22:03< DemonJester> ! 22:03 * ke4qqq just read quaids post 22:03< inode0> feel free to go DemonJester 22:03< ke4qqq> oops go ahead DemonJester 22:03< quaid> ke4qqq: yeah, I was going to bring that up ... 22:04< inode0> link? 22:04< inode0> DemonJester: ? 22:04< DemonJester> real quick, I am working on getting some pricing for sticker sheets, a very small run. Hopefully if all goes well I can bring some to OLF to show others 22:04< ke4qqq> DemonJester: may want to talk to Mizmo she is doing some as well 22:04< ke4qqq> and has some pricing 22:04< inode0> that is great, are these art team designed? 22:04< ke4qqq> may be advantageous to combine an order. 22:05< DemonJester> yeah the ones that have about 15 stickers per sheet. 22:05< inode0> that order seems pretty stuck 22:05< inode0> it is important to have the art team's seal of approval I think 22:05< inode0> so we don't accidentally violate guidelines we don't know about or something 22:06< DemonJester> I can do that this week. Do I talk to mizmo about that? 22:06< inode0> and they are just very helpful and all around nice people to work with 22:06< ke4qqq> yep 22:06< DemonJester> I will do that. I am finished 22:06 * inode0 looks in the mirror to see if he got any paint on his lips 22:07< inode0> okay, discussion about quaid's post? 22:07< quaid> summary: can we extend the parts of FAD to non-attendees that are worth being interactive? 22:07< inode0> a link would be appreciated by me 22:07 * quaid getting 22:08< ke4qqq> http://iquaid.org/2008/09/16/formula-for-making-distance-work/ 22:08< quaid> thx 22:08< quaid> there are some specific suggestions in there, etc. 22:08< quaid> I've seen all of my suggestions work well in real life, fwiw. 22:09< inode0> absolutely I'm in favor of doing what we can to include interested contributors who can't attend 22:10< inode0> what are the bullets for what needs to be done in preparation for this? 22:11< inode0> video/audio feed for example? 22:12< quaid> yeah, projector X2 or X3 22:13< inode0> do we have someone who will be on the ground in columbus who knows this stuff? 22:13< inode0> who can coordinate things? 22:14< quaid> ANSWER HAZY,TRY AGAIN LATER 22:14< quaid> maybe first we list the scenarios 22:14< quaid> and what support they require 22:15 * quaid starts something like that on tha page 22:15< DemonJester> icecast? 22:15-!- warren [n=warren at redhat/wombat/warren] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:16-!- warren [n=warren at redhat/wombat/warren] has joined #fedora-meeting 22:16< DemonJester> of course the question would be what kind of bandwidth would we have there and how much we will use while streaming. 22:17< inode0> well, I'm guessing the meeting will be in the hotel restaurant or something 22:17< inode0> not likely to have much bandwidth 22:17< quaid> in a meeting room? 22:18< DemonJester> yet to be determined.. 22:18< inode0> I don't know what they will have for us now, but the meetings are the day after OLF 22:19< inode0> I'm going to suggest we all give this some thought too and see if we can plan things with this in mind to try to make it work 22:19< quaid> +1 22:19< quaid> I don't think all events are worthy 22:19< quaid> e.g. Sat. nite f2f hanging out 22:19< quaid> but "what are the plans for the next year" is worthy 22:19< DemonJester> +1 22:19< inode0> would be nice if our 4 hour block for real meetings could be available though 22:20< DemonJester> honestly we need more like 5 I think 22:20< inode0> ok 22:20< inode0> ok, we can start at 7am 22:20< inode0> what TZ is columbus? 22:20< DemonJester> that works for me.. EST 22:21< inode0> I'll be asleep, but go ahead 22:21-!- spoleeba [n=one at fedora/Jef] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:21< quaid> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADNA2008#Remoting_the_meetings 22:21< inode0> one other thing I'd like to mention, did everyone see stickster_afk's blog mentioning FUDcon plans? 22:23< inode0> when he isn't cramming for certifications maybe we can arrange another visit to hear more about that - I think we are all eager to do what we can to help with FUDcon planning 22:23< crossbytes> link? 22:28< inode0> http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1163 22:28-!- ldimaggi_ [n=ldimaggi at c-76-19-171-76.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:29< inode0> any more discussion items before we close up shop for tonight? 22:30< inode0> going 22:30< DemonJester> besides another FAD planning meeting sometime nope 22:30< inode0> let's arrange that in fedora-ambassadors 22:30< inode0> going 22:30< inode0> who has the archive of the whole meeting and would volunteer to post it? 22:31-!- jtaber [n=front at 68-27-236-157.area1.spcsdns.net] has quit ["leaving"] 22:31< DemonJester> I think I have it logged. 22:31< inode0> thanks 22:31< inode0> gone 22:31< inode0> EOF -- Regards, BrianPowell http://fedoraproject.org From bpowell01 at gmail.com Wed Sep 17 16:11:10 2008 From: bpowell01 at gmail.com (Brian Powell) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:11:10 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Summary from 2008-09-16 Message-ID: <96365e610809170911g6bb3c114x387d5b2bc7821e03@mail.gmail.com> FAMNA: Meeting 2008-09-16 FAmSCO - nothing to report. FADNA 2008 Discussion Present and discussed Agenda topics and Schedule as posted : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADNA2008 Discussed about a possible fun event. Discussion about remote participants - will be discussed more at next weeks meeting. Polo's order - no updates FUDConF11 Ambassador Kit Hackfest : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConF11#Hackfest_sessions EventBox Pelican 1610 was orderd by Herlo and will be delivered 9/17/2008 XO's have also been acquired and are on their way. An items have/needed list will be placed on the wiki page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox for others to possibly donate for inclusion into event box(s). DemonJester is looking in to allocating wireless routers will report at next meeting on the status. Event Tracking wiki page discussion : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/EventTracking Stickers request by DemonJester Still gathering pricing for small run. Will talk with mizmo to see if efforts can be combined. All of this detail will be available shortly at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-16 -- Regards, BrianPowell http://fedoraproject.org From gerold at lugd.org Wed Sep 17 17:46:32 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:46:32 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] absence at meeting today Message-ID: <28049.82.210.244.127.1221673592.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Hi there EMEA Ambassadors, unfortunately I'm sitting in case of emergency in our datacenter (from the company) and I fear I can't attend the meeting today. I'm sorry GeroldKa I have some topics for FAD but try to contact you later on / tomorrow From fab at fedoraproject.org Wed Sep 17 21:51:31 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:51:31 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors Meeting EMEA - IRC Log 2008-09-17 Message-ID: <48D17BE3.5040606@fedoraproject.org> HTML version of the log is here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-17/HTML_Log Raw log is here: Welcome everybody. Let's have Fedora Ambassadors Meeting EMEA ah, ok. ok Who is here? Roll call. Please state your first name and surname (in the past this was your wiki name) * wonderer1 is here FrancescoUgolini * wonderer1 = henrik Heigl Felix Kaechele FabianAffolter Robert Scheck lfoppiano, McGiwer, spevack...ping pong sorry MaxSpevack ok, not that much attendance ;-) First point: News from FAmSCo ! DimitrisGlezos (semi-here) spevack, k well, just from the budget side of FAMSCo, I have a few things to report. ok, go on first of all, we are continuing to get funds to the event owners who have events coming up I ask all the event owners to continue to save copies of receipts and stuff, which makes reimbursements much easier. Also, the t-shirts that Fedora EMEA e.V. purchased have arrived, and they look great. i want to thank kital for handling that. we will be selling these shirts at events, so we will make enough money to purchase more, and also for Fedora EMEA e.V. to have some extra funds to sponsor travel, etc. one last thing I am personally a bit behind on fedora-ambassadors-list reading the last week or so, so I want to apologize if there is anyone waiting on me for a response that i haven't gotten to. EOF ! ! wonderer1, then fugolini First of all I also want to thank kital, spevak and aal of who else was involed to the T-Shirts. Question: in wich way we (Ambassadors) get them for Events (over fedoraproject page xyz?)? do we pay for them before selling them? EOF ! ok spevack talk you I can explain very easy So, I don't have the exact numbers here, but just assume for a minute that each shirt cost 5 EUR to produce. And pretend that your event has a budget of 500 EUR. If you say "max, send me 20 shirts for my event" then I will do that, and we will subtract 100 EUR from your event's budget. If you sell the shirts, then great. it can help pay for other things at the event, or you can just give the money back and we'll hold it for later. if you give the shirts away, that's ok too, because they are "paid" for out of the event's budget. does that make sense? EOF spevack: yes ! fugolini, ok Ok, i'll be brief, just two thinks from FAmSCo During the past week we had two main announcment: the first is the "New Members Policy" update thanks to kital suggestions. Those changes will help better focusing on people and will simplify new members and AMA too Ambassadors Membership Administrators for infos about this take a look at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00359.html The last important update was the official position taken by FAmSCo about Ambassadors list https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00353.html Moreover I thought it was necessary a pause to officialize it and for general discussion until FAD NA 2008 The FAmSCo position is near-to-be-definitive. We need feedback from NA community that actually haven't a definitive position like EMEA has After they opinion, and if there will not really BIG reason against our position, we will officialize it so, the discussion on this thread is paused until October 15th, if I'm not wrong (FAD NA) That's all from a FAmSCo point of view updates. For release events maybe we could discuss later (sorry I don't have the meeting agenda with me) EOF fugolini, thanks thank you too fabian_a i guess that we can move on, or? +1 +1 +1 Ambassadors Membership Verification the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification page is now up-to-date that's all...kital is not here so let's start with events have somebody something to say about a up-comming or past event? ! fugolini, F10 Release Parties events: this year we had 3 events in EMEA ! spevack: talk you I'll finish after you spevack and then fugolini again fugolini and i were talking the other day about funding for F10 release events fugolini: there is going to be extra money from the FUDCon Brno budget, that we can use to release events. that budget will be gone at the end of november, so if some release events will be in December, we just have to get the Ambassadors the money ahead of time. EOF hi all, sorry for being late...only just arrived home spevack: thank you, you answer is 100 words worth BTW, this year we have more events worldwide but less in Europe But this is only statistic. As i wrote in https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00375.html I think we are having about as many events as we can handle with our current budget, worldwide. Personally I am pretty happy, though I hope for responsible growth both in budget and events in the future. Before September 30th I want to know how much Events Owner (EMEA too) will preview to spend but both have to grow at the same time! Absolutely. I have wrote an email asking people to write argumented money requests, just to improve RE money distribution around the events. ! spevack: feel free to interupt me i think about it very simply. you are the tresurer, you better than me Whenever i talk to ambassadors, i try to ask this question: "are you getting the resources you need, and is it easy for you to get those resources and organize an event?" if they say yes, wonderful. if they say no, then I take notes. :) we just need to always be asking that question and improving any complaints. EOF Sure FAMSCo works for Ambassadors! absolutely. I hope people have understood this reading my mail about RE So, if there are Events Owner I invite them to post their preview before that date. Max do you agree with me? yes I hope to see great reports from EMEA too. We are covering three country and I'm sure it will be a success. That our goal! Any question? ? what do you mean "three countries" fugolini.fedorapeople.org/remap.html in EMEA we are covering 3 events in 3 different countries ah, for release parties i understand now I'm sorry that is awesome! i love your map heh EOF I hope next time, we will be able to imporve the organization of these events in EMEA too. I'll add a topic for FAD EMEA about this EOF thanks guys let me say something about events around and in switzerland open expo next week! :) openexpo is next week, right. spevack will help and talk at this event. andreas and timea will help me there too. ! wonderer1, fabian_a: i will bring Live CDs and tshirts and my smiling face I have a very short aking from GeroldKa for the sytems 2008 end of october in munich. I hope to get there with an OLPC near by the OLPC project itself to represent fedora there. if anybody can and would help there, please tell me there is no budget (I try to get some from the OLPC guys, but lets see). wonderer1: how much budget do you think you need? I hope to get an OLPC some days before to test it ( I only have one at Linuxtag 2007 and Jens handed me once one out for some minutes). we have a few in EMEA, spread around various ambassadors spevack: at this time travel and hotel for 2 days. I can collect the infos and mail it?! yes, I know (allready on the mailinglist ;-) I only want to tell here again and if there where some guys who where there or knew some ... contact me please. EOF wonderer1, thanks wonderer1: that would be great wonderer1: if you send an estimate, we can try to find the budget spevack: Ok. EOF anything else about events in the near future? ! fugolini, LinuxDay: I'm not the owner But I want to say that lfoppiano and the Northern italian ambassadors are doing a great job trying to contact each LUG and focusing on covering the biggest one. Personally I will cover my province LUG, that has an attendance of 500/1000 people (many of them schools/businesses etc). But that's offtopic. Generally you can see what owner and helpers are doing seeing this page I don't find it, but make a search in Fedoraproject.org wiki And you'll get all the informations about the kit we will distribute around LUGs, speech that we hold etc EOF http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxDay are we done for this month? i will adjourn in 20 s 10 if anyone needs anything, you always can email me and i will do my best! EOF :) 5 3 2 1 thanks fabian_a thanks all Fedora Ambassadors Meeting EMEA 2008-09-17 has been adjourned. Next meeting in October 2008. Next Meeting will be in October, 2008-10-15 at 20.00 UTC. -- Fingerprint: 2F6C 930F D3C4 7E38 6AFA 4EB4 E23C D2DD 36A4 397F Fedora always leads and never follows. From fab at fedoraproject.org Wed Sep 17 22:04:50 2008 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:04:50 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo Meeting - IRC Log 2008-09-17 Message-ID: <48D17F02.6050309@fedoraproject.org> HTML version of the log is here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings/2008-09-17 Raw log is here: FrancescoUgolini FabianAffolter JohnBabich Max "The Pirate" Spevack fugolini: now you have the lead...i will log ehehe, so just take a look at this link: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/famsco-list/2008-September/msg00057.html fabian_a: thank you * spevack doesn't want to be a pirate, actually The agenda is well explained there. First of all Release Parties Status: excellent... I think we talked about the release parties, at least from a budget point of view, earlier. We have just discussed about it in EMEA But just to be clear -- we have extra money from FUDCon Brno's budget, so we can have more budget for release parties. I just need to know how much before we say 100% :) What I can say is that we are covering a variety of countries this time, and yes, we will able to support those ones I'll work to make an announcement when we will be near the release I hope fedora announce could help us. Moreover I'll send it to Max, hoping he will be able to see my mistakes. := Any question? sounds good to me +1 +1 So, next issue, but we discussed about it, few minutes ago: Ambassadors list. FAmSCo taken a position, but we have to wait since FAD NA 2008, before a announcement ! just because NA wanted to discuss all together. We have just a EMEA opinion and other region jmbuser: Is that position public? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00353.html I asked to pause the discussion until FAD NA, if there will be reasonable topic to change FAmSCo position ! we will discuss it again. But after more than 40 (50) feedback from Ambassadors community and after the well explained reasons posted by experienced Ambassadors like Joerg [https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00291.html], Robert[https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00292.html] and Chitlesh [https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambas That's fine by me. jmbuser: eof I'm sure moreover the decision is the only one. "it isn't a compromise but the only way to stop the most discussion we had in the project. " *big I'm sure everyone will happy, moreover in the Weekly report you have a detailed description of this topic. I hope it would be clear Anything for this topic? no 3. New Members policy update: see the mail, I'm sure it a well clear point See the weekly report. I've done it just because it save a lot of time. Maybe we could add it in the task list along with Weekly meeting :) 4. t.b.d. ! jmbuser: Thanks for the weekly report - makes it easier for me to follow eof In fact, I'm sure it help a lot. I'm saying this because it helps me too :) For the 4th point: I have only few personal communications the first one is that I'll be unavailable from 20 to 27. * Frankly3D has quit ("Leaving") The open topic to control are: Release Events and Budget * ke4qqq has quit ("Konversation terminated!") ! the other discussion, Ambassadors list, it's posponed to Oct. 15 sp spevack: I am a bit behind on getting payments to ambassadors so far in September, but I'll catch up on all of it, and keep updating everyone on the budget. EOF great, I think there aren't absolutely problems If you need to held a meeting to discuss about budget and release events just do it :) I've just talked with fabian_a about that, some days ago The last thing is Meeting time. When I'll come back, my student-routine will restart, after 3 month and more of pleasure I'll have to wake up at 5.30 UTC +2 * spevack will be able to make any meeting time in which he doesn't already have another meeting. That's mean 3.30 UTC fugolini: that is AWFUL * spevack would die I am *not* a morning person at all ;) i just done this last academic year :) that's early I consider it a great accomplishment if I am awake by 8:30 but i've to take 3 trains and a bus to arrive where i have to go ughh BTW, my proposal is 18.00 with Summer time that mean 19.00 with sunlight time * spevack makes a note to never complain about anything again UTC naturally fugolini: I will +1 any proposal you make on meeting time likewise +1 don't worry, when you do this for more than a month, you don't notice it so if you couldn't be able at that time i'm not able to attend meeting before 20.00 utc because my part time studies fugolini: a friend of mine once quit a job after they told him he would have to be at work at 08:00 lol fugolini: so i admire greatly your commitment I'm loving what i'm doing so I don't feel sad :) fabian_a: 20.00 UTC with sunlight time? I don't know when will be the time change fugolini: 22.00 in your time zone so with UTC+1 too? fugolini: or our time zone In October, if I'm not wrong, we will move from UTC +2 to UTC +1 yes will be the same with UTC +1? so 21.00 UTC ? with sunlight time Just because I'll agree to held the meeting at 20.00 UTC (with sunlight time, starting from ??october) At least 20.30, like few months ago (before may) Could be ok ? again, +1 to anything that will mean 19.30 UTC +2 and 20.30 UTC +1 with UTC sorry I missed with didn't we collect the times already a few month ago? yes, we had a page ok, I'll check it 19:30 UTC works for me So can we finish the discussion in FAmSCo list? (sorry for my language today, but I'm feel tired, weather is changing) Ok, so I'll update you about the available meeting times. Anything else? 3 2 talk to you all later... fabian_a see you next week 1 == Meeting adjourned == Thanks everyone to join this meeting I'm sorry for the time Thanks everybody, especially fugolini for moderating I'll be here tomorrow afternoon bye night -- Fingerprint: 2F6C 930F D3C4 7E38 6AFA 4EB4 E23C D2DD 36A4 397F Fedora always leads and never follows. From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Thu Sep 18 01:23:11 2008 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:23:11 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2008-09-16 In-Reply-To: <96365e610809170910u3b62b30amca30bf358d5c264e@mail.gmail.com> References: <96365e610809170910u3b62b30amca30bf358d5c264e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7a0d56080809171823v40303tc3cc0ca6099f3162@mail.gmail.com> 21:50< herlo> inode0: lcafiero is up, saw his blog post today Thank you, herlo, for taking care of that, and sorry that I was unable to get to the meeting -- we had a test and I couldn't "fake" that. Larry Cafiero From jbenedictlow at gmail.com Thu Sep 18 03:36:56 2008 From: jbenedictlow at gmail.com (Jason Benedict Low) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:36:56 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora disks In-Reply-To: <362410.92341.qm@web84308.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <362410.92341.qm@web84308.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48D1CCD8.6090401@gmail.com> Leo Jackson wrote: > Someone came to my employees saying I can't give them out is this true. And if so what is the point of free distribution? > Shouldn't be a issue to redistribute as it is, that what freemedia contributor is doing. -- Best Regards, Jason http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jason_Benedict_Low ------ When i work nobody care. When i rest everybody stare. ------ From herlo1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 18 05:21:17 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:21:17 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2008-09-16 In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080809171823v40303tc3cc0ca6099f3162@mail.gmail.com> References: <96365e610809170910u3b62b30amca30bf358d5c264e@mail.gmail.com> <7a0d56080809171823v40303tc3cc0ca6099f3162@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Larry Cafiero wrote: > 21:50< herlo> inode0: lcafiero is up, saw his blog post today > > Thank you, herlo, for taking care of that, and sorry that I was unable > to get to the meeting -- we had a test and I couldn't "fake" that. Larry, No worries Mr. Cafiero :-D I'm quite happy to help. BTW, we will want to get you set up with your fedorapeople.org account in the future where your blog data really goes. No rush though as its working from my .planet site atm. Cheers, Clint From herlo1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 18 05:32:12 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:32:12 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] EventBox becomes reality Message-ID: So I've been working pretty much to get this EventBox[1] idea off the ground. It looks like things are going now. I've loaded some stuff into it and just need to make sure I've not missed anything and I'll be sending it off to Jeffrey this coming week or so. I've uploaded some pictures of the new Pelican 1610 series box (not too shabby) which should hold all of the items on the list quite nicely. Enjoy the pictures. Cheers, Clint 1 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Sep 18 12:46:16 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:46:16 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassadors Meeting 2008-09-03 Meeting Summary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 8 Sep 2008, inode0 wrote: > + Media: Final price quote of $0.576 each for 3000 pieces including > media, printing, sleeves. While this is a fantastic price some are > concerned about media not being a line item in the budget when it > consumes so much of the quarterly budget and might exceed the volume > necessary for the quarter. North America, or any region of the world, is *perfectly welcome* to make it a line item in the budget if it makes it easier for the Ambassadors and leadership in that region to manage the money. Head to the FAMSCo budget page, and modify the amounts for your region to indicate specific money for media, and we're all set. As long as the numbers all add up to the right final amount, you won't get any complaints from me. I view my role as being very simple, from a budget management perspective -- simply to (a) make sure the Community Architecture team (which provides FAMSCo with its budget) does not go over budget, and (b) to make sure that the Ambassadors on the ground have the resources that they need. So feel free to tweak the numbers, or re-allocate the North American budget in a way that makes more sense for NA leadership and Ambassadors. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Sep 18 12:46:25 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:46:25 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMNA Meeting Summary from 2008-09-09 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Clint Savage wrote: > FAD at OLF was discussed > Plan was to meet next Monday to discuss an agenda > Ought to have some cool artwork created for this soon. > Probably ought to have something fun to do while there as well. > Maybe some sort of entertainment. Is OLF sufficiently budgeted-for, now that it also includes a FAD? --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Sep 18 12:46:34 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:46:34 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 Release Parties preparatory meeting In-Reply-To: References: <7cb778c60809111832p4a03b0a1i83bb3f790326e662@mail.gmail.com> <7a0d56080809111839l587b20f7vc2d0a6a2a0098219@mail.gmail.com> <7256ccd50809111955p58ac9ebdhb49f3a7368994c5e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > We are discussing about Release Party that are organized after the > General Availability (1 week> GA> 2/3weeks). > > If you are interested you can join the meeting and make your > questions. Francesco and I are working together to make sure there is funding for all the release parties. Ultimately, FAMSCo will be responsible for presenting a list of Release Events to me for budget review, and then we will be able to have a final list of release events with budget for Ambassadors. I'm really glad to see so many people eager to support Fedora, and I want to say thank you to all the Ambassadors who organize events around the world. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Sep 18 12:46:40 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:46:40 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200809122335.46754.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <200809130830.40402.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, David Nalley wrote: > Let me preface by saying I understand the distinction between the EMEA > and NA perception of Ambassadors - there is a difference. And honestly > EMEA has been more successful so perhaps we should look at it in that > light. I don't understand what this particular point has to do with the larger thread. Our collective goal is to make sure Ambassadors in all parts of the world are successful. That success model will not *necessarily* look the same everywhere, nor is it a competition. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Sep 18 12:46:43 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:46:43 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200809122335.46754.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <200809130830.40402.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, inode0 wrote: > I see the role of ambassadors as one empowered to take initiatives to > promote Fedora and I see the role of the ambassadors list as being the > place for discussion of whatever the ambassadors would like to discuss > with each other. And as a believer in open communication I don't mind > at all if non-ambassadors participate in discussions and would be > happy if barriers to such participation were lowered. Ambassadors == tactical, day to day operations and planning, event organizing, resources, budget, etc. Marketing == strategy, that is implemented by Ambassadors or other groups. List traffic needs to be separated more or less based on this. The manner in which that separation is done, I leave to others. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Sep 18 12:46:47 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:46:47 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > Could it be a benefit? You have to give me the answer. If I were a member of FAMSCo, here is how I would approach my job: (1) Are ambassadors worldwide finding it relatively easy to organize and event, put on the event, and then report the results of the event? Solicit feedback often, hold people accountable for event reports and the "process" around budgeting, but also be flexible and alter the process when the general Ambassador community speaks. (2) GOTO (1). (3) On other questions of policy, like mailing lists, listen to the opinions of everyone, and then make what FAMSCo thinks is the best decision, explain why in public, and move on. If people don't like the decisions or leadership of FAMSCo, they will make that clear when the next election cycle comes. :) It is similar to the Fedora Board -- they listen to the arguments and discussions, but ultimately they make the calls on what they think is best. Also, if the Fedora Board disagrees with a decision that FAMSCo is making, I am sure that someone from the Board will weigh in and try to encourage FAMSCo to think/discuss further. (4) Metrics. How are we growing worldwide. How do we encourage our best Ambassadors to further grow Fedora in their regions? How do we continue to convert new people that we meet at events and through Ambassadors into contributors. How do we *measure* this? Personally, I think FAMSCo is doing a good job of growing Ambassadors, giving some formal process to the way events are organized, and making sure that people all over the world are involved. It is a difficult job, and FAMSCo's leadership, like almost all of us, is run by volunteers. We're all on the same team, and let's continue to work together. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Sep 18 12:46:50 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:46:50 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <50baabb30809140449l422329e9x7a292a5d37a3b53d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> <48CCF867.9040008@fedoraproject.org> <50baabb30809140449l422329e9x7a292a5d37a3b53d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 14 Sep 2008, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> It has already been open for quite a long time. >> >> Rahul > > Even though the majority once refused ?? You guys are talking about different things. The *archives* are open for anyone to read. Actual *subscription* policy for joining the list is what the rest of the thread is debating. I don't want to put words in Chitlesh's mouth, but I think he used the work "archives" when he meant to say "joining the list". --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Sep 18 12:46:56 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:46:56 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <50baabb30809140127g3dda8da6nfea88d28689a0d8a@mail.gmail.com> <48CCF867.9040008@fedoraproject.org> <50baabb30809140449l422329e9x7a292a5d37a3b53d@mail.gmail.com> <48CD0077.7000703@gmail.com> <1221395224.21551.12.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: On Sun, 14 Sep 2008, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > I think instead of a vote, we have to evaluate the reasons. Paul asked > here for feedbacks/suggestions/proposals and we saw a lot of them, but > I think the decision must be taken not with a +1 or -1 but with a > reasoned thought. I'm sure the previous 50 messages contain a lot of > feedbacks and suggestions, and I don't see a reason to destroy them > with a no-sense +1, -1 (in the past we noticed that they didn't take a > conclusion, meanwhile a reasoned discussion taken to great results). As I said previously, FAMSCo needs to weigh everyone's opinions, and then FAMSCo needs to make the decision and defend it. If the Fedora Board or the Fedora Ambassadors community at large disagrees with that (or any) decision, there are ways to deal with it. --Max From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 18 13:31:46 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:31:46 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: 2008/9/18 Max Spevack : > On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > >> Could it be a benefit? You have to give me the answer. > > If I were a member of FAMSCo, here is how I would approach my job: > > (1) Are ambassadors worldwide finding it relatively easy to organize and > event, put on the event, and then report the results of the event? Solicit > feedback often, hold people accountable for event reports and the "process" > around budgeting, but also be flexible and alter the process when the > general Ambassador community speaks. > > (2) GOTO (1). > > (3) On other questions of policy, like mailing lists, listen to the opinions > of everyone, and then make what FAMSCo thinks is the best decision, explain > why in public, and move on. If people don't like the decisions or > leadership of FAMSCo, they will make that clear when the next election cycle > comes. :) It is similar to the Fedora Board -- they listen to the > arguments and discussions, but ultimately they make the calls on what they > think is best. Also, if the Fedora Board disagrees with a decision that > FAMSCo is making, I am sure that someone from the Board will weigh in and > try to encourage FAMSCo to think/discuss further. > > (4) Metrics. How are we growing worldwide. How do we encourage our best > Ambassadors to further grow Fedora in their regions? How do we continue to > convert new people that we meet at events and through Ambassadors into > contributors. How do we *measure* this? > > Personally, I think FAMSCo is doing a good job of growing Ambassadors, > giving some formal process to the way events are organized, and making sure > that people all over the world are involved. It is a difficult job, and > FAMSCo's leadership, like almost all of us, is run by volunteers. We're all > on the same team, and let's continue to work together. > > --Max > First of all thank you for all the great suggestions about this issue and about everything concerning managing and leading a community. FAmSCo will work over those points: I'm sure we are facing a daily improvement in our jobs thanks to the Ambassadors feedback and the community in general ones. (and sure yours) I hope the (going-to-be-definitive) decision FAmSCo is going to take will be what people are expecting from us. Moreover I personally asked to pause the discussion until FAD NA, I hope everyone understand the importance to make people meet to discuss this issue: after that date, if we will receive some big reasons against FAmSCo position, we will surely be able to adapt this to your needs. Meanwhile EMEA community has just expressed, with a reasonable majority, their doubts on some of the options (open list etc). We hope everyone know we are working to keep community up and running, and to guarantee a constant, both in quality and quantity, growth. We are a open community, with open processes: I hope everything we are doing is clear. Best regards Francesco Ugolini From irashadul at gmail.com Thu Sep 18 13:50:48 2008 From: irashadul at gmail.com (Rashadul Islam) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:50:48 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <17fa59580809180650g5998d7cfvc8a6089578c85ed7@mail.gmail.com> + 1 Max Spevack I have a short proposal to the FAMSCo: --------------------------------------------------------- Archives are like a library: but it should have two parts: a) Public b) Reserve a) Public: Basic Informations, Event reports and nessesary tools b) Reserve: Budget issue, Related security issue, and Planning Public part should always be open to the whole Fedora community. But, reserve part should have proper access only to those who really needs it. ------------------------EOF------------------------- On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > > Could it be a benefit? You have to give me the answer. >> > > If I were a member of FAMSCo, here is how I would approach my job: > > (1) Are ambassadors worldwide finding it relatively easy to organize and > event, put on the event, and then report the results of the event? Solicit > feedback often, hold people accountable for event reports and the "process" > around budgeting, but also be flexible and alter the process when the > general Ambassador community speaks. > > (2) GOTO (1). > > (3) On other questions of policy, like mailing lists, listen to the > opinions of everyone, and then make what FAMSCo thinks is the best decision, > explain why in public, and move on. If people don't like the decisions or > leadership of FAMSCo, they will make that clear when the next election cycle > comes. :) It is similar to the Fedora Board -- they listen to the > arguments and discussions, but ultimately they make the calls on what they > think is best. Also, if the Fedora Board disagrees with a decision that > FAMSCo is making, I am sure that someone from the Board will weigh in and > try to encourage FAMSCo to think/discuss further. > > (4) Metrics. How are we growing worldwide. How do we encourage our best > Ambassadors to further grow Fedora in their regions? How do we continue to > convert new people that we meet at events and through Ambassadors into > contributors. How do we *measure* this? > > Personally, I think FAMSCo is doing a good job of growing Ambassadors, > giving some formal process to the way events are organized, and making sure > that people all over the world are involved. It is a difficult job, and > FAMSCo's leadership, like almost all of us, is run by volunteers. We're all > on the same team, and let's continue to work together. > > --Max > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Rashadul Islam ---------------------- Fedora Ambassador Canada/Montreal GPG Key 5557BFAC Finger Print 3869 732D FC43 92B4 2805 85DD C072 0238 4C74 3A69 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 18 13:59:15 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:59:15 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Ambassadors list In-Reply-To: <17fa59580809180650g5998d7cfvc8a6089578c85ed7@mail.gmail.com> References: <1221225958.10226.36.camel@localhost.localdomain> <17fa59580809180650g5998d7cfvc8a6089578c85ed7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/18 Rashadul Islam : > + 1 Max Spevack > > I have a short proposal to the FAMSCo: > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Archives are like a library: but it should have two parts: > a) Public > b) Reserve > > a) Public: Basic Informations, Event reports and nessesary tools > b) Reserve: Budget issue, Related security issue, and Planning > I don't know if the software that runs Ambs M-L allow this. BTW my personal philosophy is keep everything simple. Regards Francesco Ugolini From irashadul at gmail.com Thu Sep 18 14:41:22 2008 From: irashadul at gmail.com (Rashadul Islam) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:41:22 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors in CANADA : information about F10 Release Event Message-ID: <17fa59580809180741l53e077a7j52d1551531d4b1c8@mail.gmail.com> Dear Fedora Ambassadors in Canada: Here is the event details about F10 release: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseParty/F10 There is no F10 Release event in Canada from any of the Ambassadors. Please let me know if you organize or wants to participate in any F10 event. Few important pages for you all (Fedora Ambassadors in Canada) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) ADD YOURSELF ON FAMNA 2) FAMNA MEETING 3) RECENT CHANGES 4) FEDORA EVENTS 5) FEDORA 10 RELEASE SCHEDULE 1) ADD YOURSELF ON FAMNA https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Regions -> Please feel free to add yourself here 2) FAMNA MEETING https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings -> Fedora Ambassadors Meeting, Whole community waiting for your voice there at the meeting -> North American ambassadors meet on irc.freenode.net, #fedora-meeting, every Tuesday at 9pm Eastern US time 3) RECENT CHANGES https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Special:Recentchanges 4) FEDORA EVENTS https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents 5) FEDORA 10 RELEASE SCHEDULE https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/Schedule Regards, Rashadul Islam ---------------------- Finger Print 3869 732D FC43 92B4 2805 85DD C072 0238 4C74 3A69 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From herlo1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 18 16:07:56 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:07:56 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: EventBox becomes reality In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Clint Savage wrote: > So I've been working pretty much to get this EventBox[1] idea off the > ground. It looks like things are going now. I've loaded some stuff > into it and just need to make sure I've not missed anything and I'll > be sending it off to Jeffrey this coming week or so. > > I've uploaded some pictures of the new Pelican 1610 series box (not > too shabby) which should hold all of the items on the list quite > nicely. Enjoy the pictures. > > Cheers, > > Clint > > 1 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox > I sent the wrong link for pictures. I'll update them on the wiki later. http://flickr.com/photos/herlo0/2866570109/ Thanks David for catching this. Cheers, Clint From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 18 16:13:04 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:13:04 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: EventBox becomes reality In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/9/18 Clint Savage : > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Clint Savage wrote: >> So I've been working pretty much to get this EventBox[1] idea off the >> ground. It looks like things are going now. I've loaded some stuff >> into it and just need to make sure I've not missed anything and I'll >> be sending it off to Jeffrey this coming week or so. >> >> I've uploaded some pictures of the new Pelican 1610 series box (not >> too shabby) which should hold all of the items on the list quite >> nicely. Enjoy the pictures. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Clint >> >> 1 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox >> > > I sent the wrong link for pictures. I'll update them on the wiki later. > > http://flickr.com/photos/herlo0/2866570109/ > > Thanks David for catching this. > > Cheers, > > Clint > Yeah, it look great! My personal congratulations with NA Ambassadors community who make this idea a reality in only few months. I'm sure it could help you, Ambassadors from NA, to better handle events. Best regards Francesco Ugolini From herlo1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 18 16:16:47 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:16:47 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassadors Meeting 2008-09-03 Meeting Summary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Mon, 8 Sep 2008, inode0 wrote: > >> + Media: Final price quote of $0.576 each for 3000 pieces including >> media, printing, sleeves. While this is a fantastic price some are >> concerned about media not being a line item in the budget when it >> consumes so much of the quarterly budget and might exceed the volume >> necessary for the quarter. > > North America, or any region of the world, is *perfectly welcome* to make it > a line item in the budget if it makes it easier for the Ambassadors and > leadership in that region to manage the money. > > Head to the FAMSCo budget page, and modify the amounts for your region to > indicate specific money for media, and we're all set. As long as the > numbers all add up to the right final amount, you won't get any complaints > from me. > > I view my role as being very simple, from a budget management perspective -- > simply to (a) make sure the Community Architecture team (which provides > FAMSCo with its budget) does not go over budget, and (b) to make sure that > the Ambassadors on the ground have the resources that they need. > > So feel free to tweak the numbers, or re-allocate the North American budget > in a way that makes more sense for NA leadership and Ambassadors. > > --Max > So what this basically means to me is that we need to talk with the people we'd be pulling money from (Event Owners mostly) and reallocate it toward Media. The question I have is if we should attempt to do this for Q3 or just start the process for Q4. Timing is a big issue, as I'd like to get media out within 2-3 weeks after the release. Thoughts on this? Cheers, Clint From david at gnsa.us Thu Sep 18 16:34:24 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:34:24 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassadors Meeting 2008-09-03 Meeting Summary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Clint Savage wrote: > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Max Spevack wrote: >> On Mon, 8 Sep 2008, inode0 wrote: >> >>> + Media: Final price quote of $0.576 each for 3000 pieces including >>> media, printing, sleeves. While this is a fantastic price some are >>> concerned about media not being a line item in the budget when it >>> consumes so much of the quarterly budget and might exceed the volume >>> necessary for the quarter. >> >> North America, or any region of the world, is *perfectly welcome* to make it >> a line item in the budget if it makes it easier for the Ambassadors and >> leadership in that region to manage the money. >> >> Head to the FAMSCo budget page, and modify the amounts for your region to >> indicate specific money for media, and we're all set. As long as the >> numbers all add up to the right final amount, you won't get any complaints >> from me. >> >> I view my role as being very simple, from a budget management perspective -- >> simply to (a) make sure the Community Architecture team (which provides >> FAMSCo with its budget) does not go over budget, and (b) to make sure that >> the Ambassadors on the ground have the resources that they need. >> >> So feel free to tweak the numbers, or re-allocate the North American budget >> in a way that makes more sense for NA leadership and Ambassadors. >> >> --Max >> > > So what this basically means to me is that we need to talk with the > people we'd be pulling money from (Event Owners mostly) and reallocate > it toward Media. The question I have is if we should attempt to do > this for Q3 or just start the process for Q4. Timing is a big issue, > as I'd like to get media out within 2-3 weeks after the release. > Well I plan to push almost all of my allocated money to media - sans around 100 at the moment. -though I am also thinking about temporary tattoos, but that can wait, media is more important in my opinion. I'd like to see us get one run of live media for f10 out really close to the release date. New budget comes in on 12/1 which hopefully will let us finish ordering runs of media for other archs and install media. From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Sep 18 16:38:48 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:38:48 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassadors Meeting 2008-09-03 Meeting Summary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Sep 2008, Clint Savage wrote: > So what this basically means to me is that we need to talk with the > people we'd be pulling money from (Event Owners mostly) and reallocate > it toward Media. The question I have is if we should attempt to do > this for Q3 or just start the process for Q4. Timing is a big issue, > as I'd like to get media out within 2-3 weeks after the release. Well, current GA is Nov 18... it's going to be a lot easier for us to find some "extra" budget in Q3 (which ends on Nov 30) because it looks like FUDCon Brno is going to come in under budget. You're going to get 1,000 CDs for about $600, so we should probably start looking at ways to set aside some of the extra FUDCon Brno money to subsidize media production, and if the release slips to December, we figure out a way to get that money "out" before the budget vaporizes at the end of the quarter. Also note that in the Community Architecture budget planning for next year (starting March 1), we hope to have separate line items for Media (CDs, USBs, etc.) in order to help give more sanity to this budgeting process. --Max From lvillani at binaryhelix.net Thu Sep 18 16:43:16 2008 From: lvillani at binaryhelix.net (Lorenzo Villani) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:43:16 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] EventBox becomes reality In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200809181843.26764.lvillani@binaryhelix.net> On Thursday 18 September 2008 07:32:12 am Clint Savage wrote: > So I've been working pretty much to get this EventBox[1] idea off the > ground. > [cut] That is REALLY cool! Keep it up ;-) -- Regards, Lorenzo Villani Blog: http://blog.binaryhelix.net LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/lorenzovillani GPG Public Key ID: 72FE265D513BDC5C SSH Public Key Fingerprint: f1:34:00:f2:48:d6:63:41:a9:0f:17:a2:d8:38:32:80 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From david at gnsa.us Thu Sep 18 16:45:48 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:45:48 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA Ambassadors Meeting 2008-09-03 Meeting Summary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > You're going to get 1,000 CDs for about $600, so we should probably start > looking at ways to set aside some of the extra FUDCon Brno money to > subsidize media production, and if the release slips to December, we figure > out a way to get that money "out" before the budget vaporizes at the end of > the quarter. My understanding is that it is substantially more expensive to do runs of less than 3000. So the pricing we received as at the 3k level - hence the worry from most of us about how we come up with that money. From romal at gmx.de Thu Sep 18 17:15:38 2008 From: romal at gmx.de (Robert M. Albrecht) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:15:38 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Puebla / Mexico Message-ID: <48D28CBA.5000303@gmx.de> Hi, I`m in Puebla next week. Are there any ambassadors to meet ? A local user group to attend ? A must see / attend for free software users ? cu romal www.romal.de blog.romal.de From nushio at gmail.com Thu Sep 18 18:00:55 2008 From: nushio at gmail.com (Juan M. Rodriguez) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:00:55 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Puebla / Mexico In-Reply-To: <48D28CBA.5000303@gmx.de> References: <48D28CBA.5000303@gmx.de> Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Robert M. Albrecht wrote: > Hi, > > I`m in Puebla next week. Are there any ambassadors to meet ? A local user > group to attend ? A must see / attend for free software users ? > > cu romal > > www.romal.de > blog.romal.de > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Hi there Robert. As far as I know, there aren't any Fedora Ambassadors in Mexico, we do have one in Chihuahua and I live in Nuevo Leon. That's about it for active Ambassadors living in Mexico as far as I know. Should you find anything or anyone in Puebla, please let me know! -- Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pcalarco at nd.edu Thu Sep 18 20:42:01 2008 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:42:01 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] North America: Fedora Ambassador Polos Message-ID: <48D2BD19.2010001@nd.edu> Folks, for those of you who ordered polos, they are now ready to ship out from the vendor. I will send out the PayPal invoices to you. I still need shipping addresses for the following Ambassadors who I have not heard from yet: Charlie Whitehead Scott Williams Please send these to me ASAP. Thanks all! - pascal From stickster at gmail.com Fri Sep 19 00:46:13 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:46:13 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Infrastructure update notice Message-ID: <1221785173.6988.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-September/msg00009.html This notice was slightly delayed for a number of reasons, so I apologize. 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URL: From pravda013 at gmail.com Fri Sep 19 03:13:55 2008 From: pravda013 at gmail.com (Ferenc Pravda) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 05:13:55 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] introduction Message-ID: <5031e9cf0809182013p16ca8fb4r63b1273f01bef2e6@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I am novice in Fedora Ambassadors, and glad to become a member of Fedora Ambassadors Group. Just recently subscribed to the Ambassadors mailing list. Personal info: First name: Ferenc Lastname: Pravda Born: 29.04.1982. Location: Serbia, Vrsac IRC (Freenode) Nick: pravda013 MSN: pravda013 AT hotmail DOT com Yahoo:ferenc_pr AT yahoo DOT com Mobile: +381 64 2677942 *Blog: http://fedoracoreprojekat.blogspot.com/ *e-mail: pravda013 AT fedoraproject DOT org *gpg key: 9A3FB4B6 *key fingerprint: 8A76 A556 EC86 7222 0EF0 B9E8 76AF BB74 9A3F B4B6 *Public SSH Key: ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1y.... Registered Linux user: 477917 Started in: Fedora Ambassador in Serbia. Member of Serbian Translation Team. Coordinator of FreeMedia in Serbia - FreeMedia Serbia Member of Fedora Marketing Group. My plans: I wish to become active in Ambassadors, because of that i join to the Ambassadors Group with large plans for Fedora Project in Serbia (Fedora Freemedia, Events, user support...etc) in appetite. In Serbia is a little number of Fedora users under 200 users, my plan is to enlarge Fedora community in Serbia soon trought FreeMedia, Local Marketing, Serbian Forums, Blogs...etc Therefore i wish to recruit additional users and trainee to enlarge community. I have plan to join an Fedora Event (OpenExpo 2008 Zurich, but it is impossible to me. For the time being, i will be present at Fedora Events in Serbia. Maybe i will organize some Event in my city, and some othere city with your support. (introduction in Fedora 10, or else)?! Glad to become a par of Fedora project and communiti. Best regards, Ferenc Pravda pravda013 at fedoraproject.org Key Fingerprint: 8A76 A556 EC86 7222 0EF0 B9E8 76AF BB74 9A3F B4B6 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Pravda013_ENGLISH http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/pravda013 (Serbian) From shambo.linux at gmail.com Fri Sep 19 07:30:47 2008 From: shambo.linux at gmail.com (Shambo Bose) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:00:47 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] introduction In-Reply-To: <5031e9cf0809182013p16ca8fb4r63b1273f01bef2e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <5031e9cf0809182013p16ca8fb4r63b1273f01bef2e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Welcome Ferenc On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Ferenc Pravda wrote: > Hello, > > I am novice in Fedora Ambassadors, and glad to become a member of > Fedora Ambassadors Group. > Just recently subscribed to the Ambassadors mailing list. > > Personal info: > > First name: Ferenc > Lastname: Pravda > Born: 29.04.1982. > Location: Serbia, Vrsac > IRC (Freenode) Nick: pravda013 > MSN: pravda013 AT hotmail DOT com > Yahoo:ferenc_pr AT yahoo DOT com > Mobile: +381 64 2677942 > *Blog: http://fedoracoreprojekat.blogspot.com/ > *e-mail: pravda013 AT fedoraproject DOT org > *gpg key: 9A3FB4B6 > *key fingerprint: > 8A76 A556 EC86 7222 0EF0 B9E8 76AF BB74 9A3F B4B6 > *Public SSH Key: ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1y.... > Registered Linux user: 477917 > > Started in: > > Fedora Ambassador in Serbia. > Member of Serbian Translation Team. > Coordinator of FreeMedia in Serbia - FreeMedia Serbia > Member of Fedora Marketing Group. > > My plans: > > I wish to become active in Ambassadors, because of that i join to the > Ambassadors Group with large plans for Fedora Project in Serbia > (Fedora Freemedia, Events, user support...etc) in appetite. In Serbia > is a little number of Fedora users under 200 users, my plan is to > enlarge Fedora community in Serbia soon trought FreeMedia, Local > Marketing, Serbian Forums, Blogs...etc > Therefore i wish to recruit additional users and trainee to enlarge community. > > I have plan to join an Fedora Event (OpenExpo 2008 Zurich, but it is > impossible to me. > For the time being, i will be present at Fedora Events in Serbia. > Maybe i will organize some Event in my city, and some othere city with > your support. (introduction in Fedora 10, or else)?! > > Glad to become a par of Fedora project and communiti. > Best regards, > > Ferenc Pravda > pravda013 at fedoraproject.org > > Key Fingerprint: > 8A76 A556 EC86 7222 0EF0 B9E8 76AF BB74 9A3F B4B6 > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Pravda013_ENGLISH > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/pravda013 (Serbian) > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > regards, Shambo Bose From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 19 09:47:29 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:47:29 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Project in Hungary - University of Szeged Message-ID: <200809191147.34978.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear members of The Open Source Laboratory [1], Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Joerg Simon. I am an active community contributor at the Fedora Project. The Fedora Project is a Free Open Source Linux Development Platform, where the community strives for the best and latest software technologies to the Open Source community. As a Fedora Ambassador, my major task involves in working with volunteers all over the world, who contribute with respect to their expertise to Fedora. [2] Personally i love your country since my early youth, i value the People from Hungary very much and i know that many smart Hungarians have the potential to contribute to the Fedora Project in many ways. [3] We have some Hungarians who help us with localization (like many other contributors around the world). We have valuable contributors in your neighbour countries but as you may have noticed, we have no representatives in your Country [4] who can help us find the best Event in order to present the Fedora Project and get in touch with the local educational institutions to show them the benefits of contributing to the Fedora Project. In November 2008, the "Fedora Ambassador Day EMEA" will take place. [5] One goal will be to extend our work in Hungary and it would be great, if you can help us to enhance our presence at a local Event (booth,speech,...) in Hungary in 2009. [6] With our recent legal status Fedora EMEA, we have the means to help you promote Fedora. Let us know if you are interested about those means. We also had community contributors excelled in various key leading positions, such as Fedora Electronic Lab architect, Fedora Spins maintainer, Fedora Marketing Manager,.... We would appreciate if you can forward this email to those who might be interested in contributing for the Fedora Project as a community member. Thank you for your cooperation in the Open Source ECO system. Regards Joerg Simon [1] http://www.inf.u-szeged.hu/opensource/members.php [2] https://fedoraproject.org/hu/ [3] https://fedoraproject.org/hu/join-fedora [4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList [5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADEMEA2008 [6] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From electromech at electromech.info Fri Sep 19 12:42:23 2008 From: electromech at electromech.info (ElectroMech) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:12:23 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] National Conference on ICT for Differently Abled People (DAP) Message-ID: <24233aca0809190542w1a94f851j1c3c08206a3dc8c4@mail.gmail.com> A mega event is going on at Ahmedabad. http://www.csi-india.org/national-conference-ict-differently-abled-people-dap As a fedora Ambassador We had supplied 150 Fedora 9 DVDs at the events to all participants. -- -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner 16, Sun Rise complex, Nr. Mansi cross Road, Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. www.electromech.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 19 13:15:02 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:15:02 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] National Conference on ICT for Differently Abled People (DAP) In-Reply-To: <24233aca0809190542w1a94f851j1c3c08206a3dc8c4@mail.gmail.com> References: <24233aca0809190542w1a94f851j1c3c08206a3dc8c4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/19 ElectroMech : > A mega event is going on at Ahmedabad. > > http://www.csi-india.org/national-conference-ict-differently-abled-people-dap > > As a fedora Ambassador We had supplied 150 Fedora 9 DVDs at the events to > all participants. > Great! It's really important to be present in such events. Thank you for your hard and precious work. Regards Francesco Ugolini From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 19 13:18:43 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:18:43 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Project in Hungary - University of Szeged In-Reply-To: <200809191147.34978.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200809191147.34978.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: 2008/9/19 JoergSimon : > Dear members of The Open Source Laboratory [1], > > Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Joerg Simon. I am an active > community contributor at the Fedora Project. > The Fedora Project is a Free Open Source Linux Development Platform, where the > community strives for the best and latest software technologies to the Open > Source community. As a Fedora Ambassador, my major task involves in working > with volunteers all over the world, who contribute with respect to their > expertise to Fedora. [2] . . . > We would appreciate if you can forward this email to those who might be > interested in contributing for the Fedora Project as a community member. > Thank you for your cooperation in the Open Source ECO system. > > Regards Joerg Simon > > [1] http://www.inf.u-szeged.hu/opensource/members.php > [2] https://fedoraproject.org/hu/ > [3] https://fedoraproject.org/hu/join-fedora > [4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList > [5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADEMEA2008 > [6] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events > Great mail! I think it's important to stay in contact with such organizations that could help the community really growing. I hope it could result in another success story for the project and Fedora EMEA too. Regards Francesco Ugolini From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Sep 19 13:35:09 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:35:09 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] introduction In-Reply-To: <5031e9cf0809182013p16ca8fb4r63b1273f01bef2e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <5031e9cf0809182013p16ca8fb4r63b1273f01bef2e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/19 Ferenc Pravda : > Hello, > > I am novice in Fedora Ambassadors, and glad to become a member of > Fedora Ambassadors Group. > Just recently subscribed to the Ambassadors mailing list. > Welcome on board! > My plans: > > I wish to become active in Ambassadors, because of that i join to the > Ambassadors Group with large plans for Fedora Project in Serbia > (Fedora Freemedia, Events, user support...etc) in appetite. In Serbia > is a little number of Fedora users under 200 users, my plan is to > enlarge Fedora community in Serbia soon trought FreeMedia, Local > Marketing, Serbian Forums, Blogs...etc > Therefore i wish to recruit additional users and trainee to enlarge community. That's the way to contribute. If you need help feel free to ask here too. > I have plan to join an Fedora Event (OpenExpo 2008 Zurich, but it is > impossible to me. > For the time being, i will be present at Fedora Events in Serbia. > Maybe i will organize some Event in my city, and some othere city with > your support. (introduction in Fedora 10, or else)?! Yes. It could be a nice way to start. I hope this link could help you organizing it: - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/Organization (actually only in English, we hope to offer translations soon) I'm sure you'll find useful the chapter "Organize the participation at an event": this is a easy, well written, scheme that summarize the core step in order to organize an event. Tell me if you have other questions and concerns. Hoping to be helpful Regards Francesco Ugolini P.S. I will be absent from Sunday 21st to Sunday 28th From linux.charged at gmail.com Fri Sep 19 17:57:00 2008 From: linux.charged at gmail.com (Junior Tomazelli) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:57:00 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] introduction In-Reply-To: References: <5031e9cf0809182013p16ca8fb4r63b1273f01bef2e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Welcome. -- Wolnei C?ndido Tomazelli Junior (Charged) Brazil Fedora Ambassador Designer and TI E-mail : linux.charged at gmail.com Linux User #477062 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I also plan to attend gatherings to recruit fedora users and increase the current number in the east african region by using social networks,blogs,dailies and other opportunity available.I look forward to working with the whole ambassadors team. -- Regards, Otiende Oscar Rombo www.oscarrombo.com http://blog.oscarrombo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tymensk at yahoo.com Fri Sep 19 20:21:19 2008 From: tymensk at yahoo.com (Samuel Teyemensah) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: EventBox becomes reality In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <51843.96722.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Hi Clint,Great work on the event box. But how do one get one and what are the costs involved.Especially for we those in Africa, I would like you to check how much it would cost to obtain one of the event box and ship it to Africa (Ghana) because I need one by January 2009.Hurray to the Fedora project. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From linux.charged at gmail.com Fri Sep 19 21:03:30 2008 From: linux.charged at gmail.com (Junior Tomazelli) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:03:30 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] introduction In-Reply-To: <8cb8a1680809191127w2bde4517t1c9c696f3bae1b78@mail.gmail.com> References: <8cb8a1680809191127w2bde4517t1c9c696f3bae1b78@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Welcome. :D -- Wolnei C?ndido Tomazelli Junior (Charged) Brazil Fedora Ambassador Designer and TI E-mail : linux.charged at gmail.com Linux User #477062 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eerpini at gmail.com Fri Sep 19 21:15:22 2008 From: eerpini at gmail.com (Satish Eerpini) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:45:22 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: EventBox becomes reality In-Reply-To: <51843.96722.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <51843.96722.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <93655eb70809191415l792da727sc1ddd616769941e6@mail.gmail.com> hi Clint , the pics look great , .... good job !!! well i would like to ask the same question Samuel did , ... what are the approximate costs involved and how do we secure one for events outside NA ? Satish On 9/20/08, Samuel Teyemensah wrote: > Hi Clint,Great work on the event box. But how do one get one and what are > the costs involved.Especially for we those in Africa, I would like you to > check how much it would cost to obtain one of the event box and ship it to > Africa (Ghana) because I need one by January 2009.Hurray to the Fedora > project. > > > -- http://satish.playdrupal.com From herlo1 at gmail.com Fri Sep 19 23:07:56 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:07:56 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: EventBox becomes reality In-Reply-To: <93655eb70809191415l792da727sc1ddd616769941e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <51843.96722.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <93655eb70809191415l792da727sc1ddd616769941e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Satish Eerpini wrote: > hi Clint , the pics look great , .... good job !!! > > well i would like to ask the same question Samuel did , ... what are > the approximate costs involved and how do we secure one for events > outside NA ? > > > Satish > > On 9/20/08, Samuel Teyemensah wrote: >> Hi Clint,Great work on the event box. But how do one get one and what are >> the costs involved.Especially for we those in Africa, I would like you to >> check how much it would cost to obtain one of the event box and ship it to >> Africa (Ghana) because I need one by January 2009.Hurray to the Fedora >> project. >> >> >> > > > -- > http://satish.playdrupal.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > So I think I'd like to point out that this is still a work in progress, but all of the details (so far) are available at the following page on the fedoraproject wiki https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox#Suggested_contents_of_the_Event_Box Pointing out that the numbers are in US Dollars, they are fairly accurate. Hope this helps. Cheers, Clint From david at gnsa.us Fri Sep 19 23:50:17 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:50:17 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Report:: Benedict College Message-ID: Another person that I met at the Palmetto Open Source Conference this year was Dr. Hong Jiang a professor at Benedict College. She invited me to come speak to computer science and other students. I was told around 40-100 would show up, but when everything was said and done I think the number was closer to 120-150. The lecture room was standing room only. Apparently there are about 40 people in the class that I was talking to, but the event had been well publicized ahead of time, and lots of students attended, including the Vice President of the college, the Assistant Dean of the School of Science Technology, Engineering and Mathematics as well as 3-4 professors. I talked a bit about Fedora and more directly about the benefits of using Open Source as an educational tool. I talked about some of the opportunities that existed to get involved with Fedora and OLPC - and of course the XO that I brought along received lots of attention. In addition I passed out over 100 Fedora 9 LiveCDs.There were a number of questions - to the point that we had to limit them due to schedule constraints on the room. After the presentation I received a short tour of the campus, was introduced to the campus Police Chief, as well as several other faculty and staff members, and enjoyed a wonderful lunch. The group was very receptive - and I have a number of follow ups to make already. From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 20 08:47:02 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:47:02 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: EventBox becomes reality In-Reply-To: <51843.96722.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <51843.96722.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/19 Samuel Teyemensah : > Especially for we those in Africa, I would like you to check how much it > would cost to obtain For Africa, I'm sure you could contact Fedora EMEA (Europe, Middle East, Africa) and try to ask them about this (they were working on something). See http://fedoraemea.org/ for more informations. 2008/9/19 Satish Eerpini : > well i would like to ask the same question Samuel did , ... what are > the approximate costs involved and how do we secure one for events > outside NA ? I don't know if APAC has just organized something. You could try to contact Susmit. Moreover, I want to confirm my thanks to NA community and I'm sure their work and idea will help all the people involved the Ambassadors Project. Regards Francesco Ugolini From jan.ekbom at gmail.com Sun Sep 21 21:32:35 2008 From: jan.ekbom at gmail.com (Jan Ekbom) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:32:35 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Regarding Advertisement of Fedora on TV In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <731096f40809211432v348cac12gfa807b0d525689d5@mail.gmail.com> I would certainly contribute with money for that purpose, if Red Hat spends their part. 2008/9/9 Shambo Bose > I cant remember correctly ( may be I am wrong) but I think I saw a >> advertisement of Linux on television few years back. If I am right, can we >> publish a Fedora Advertisement on television? Is it possible? >> > > regards, > > Shambo Bose > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nushio at gmail.com Mon Sep 22 04:35:57 2008 From: nushio at gmail.com (Juan M. Rodriguez) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:35:57 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Regarding Advertisement of Fedora on TV In-Reply-To: <731096f40809211432v348cac12gfa807b0d525689d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <731096f40809211432v348cac12gfa807b0d525689d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/21 Jan Ekbom > I would certainly contribute with money for that purpose, if Red Hat spends > their part. > > 2008/9/9 Shambo Bose > >> I cant remember correctly ( may be I am wrong) but I think I saw a >>> advertisement of Linux on television few years back. If I am right, can we >>> publish a Fedora Advertisement on television? Is it possible? >>> >> >> regards, >> >> Shambo Bose >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > About a year ago (might've been months, Internet "news" are classified as "ancient" if older than 6 hours) there was a huge discussion on /. regarding a penguin in a F1 Formula Car. It costed several millions, was tiny, and the driver crashed the car. While I do not remember the details of the car, driver or cost, I do remember that the general consensus was this: If you want to donate, donate to the programmers that make things possible. While I'd LOVE to see a TV Ad, I think having vids on youtube is "enough". What makes Fedora wanted are its features, not a fancy ad that sells Churros on a shoe store. 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That was last year (2007) at Indianapolis -- there was an effort to sponsor one of the cars that raised about $20,000, and that got Tux on the nose and sides of the car (since the team was unsponsored going into the race). The driver, Roberto Moreno, crashed after 30 laps or so and finished last. There is a definite advantage to promoting Fedora (or Linux or whatever) through mass media channels. I disagree when Juan says that "youtube is enough." Larry Cafiero From foxhaund at gmail.com Mon Sep 22 07:44:34 2008 From: foxhaund at gmail.com (Foxhaund) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:44:34 +0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Regarding Advertisement of Fedora on TV In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080809212155p62c4b800o8c50c7a0bc39b180@mail.gmail.com> References: <731096f40809211432v348cac12gfa807b0d525689d5@mail.gmail.com> <7a0d56080809212155p62c4b800o8c50c7a0bc39b180@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <511774140809220044u7943af47oa85464f568d32430@mail.gmail.com> TV ads are too expensive for promoting of Fedora. The best way to promote F is speaking with people about all the F's features and pluses. 2008/9/22 Larry Cafiero > 2008/9/21 Juan M. Rodriguez : > > > About a year ago (might've been months, Internet "news" are classified as > > "ancient" if older than 6 hours) there was a huge discussion on /. > regarding > > a penguin in a F1 Formula Car. It costed several millions, was tiny, and > the > > driver crashed the car. > > That was last year (2007) at Indianapolis -- there was an effort to > sponsor one of the cars that raised about $20,000, and that got Tux on > the nose and sides of the car (since the team was unsponsored going > into the race). The driver, Roberto Moreno, crashed after 30 laps or > so and finished last. > > There is a definite advantage to promoting Fedora (or Linux or > whatever) through mass media channels. I disagree when Juan says that > "youtube is enough." > > Larry Cafiero > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ____________________________________ Best Regards, Dmitry (Foxhaund) Vorotnikov.| http://foxhaund.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The best way to promote F > is speaking with people about all the F's features and pluses. > > 2008/9/22 Larry Cafiero > > 2008/9/21 Juan M. Rodriguez : >> >> > About a year ago (might've been months, Internet "news" are classified >> as >> > "ancient" if older than 6 hours) there was a huge discussion on /. >> regarding >> > a penguin in a F1 Formula Car. It costed several millions, was tiny, and >> the >> > driver crashed the car. >> >> That was last year (2007) at Indianapolis -- there was an effort to >> sponsor one of the cars that raised about $20,000, and that got Tux on >> the nose and sides of the car (since the team was unsponsored going >> into the race). The driver, Roberto Moreno, crashed after 30 laps or >> so and finished last. >> >> There is a definite advantage to promoting Fedora (or Linux or >> whatever) through mass media channels. I disagree when Juan says that >> "youtube is enough." >> >> Larry Cafiero >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > > -- > ____________________________________ > Best Regards, Dmitry (Foxhaund) Vorotnikov.| http://foxhaund.org > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 22 09:16:50 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:16:50 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] New Fedora Ambassador Group Members Message-ID: <200809221116.55042.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Hi, as you know we have changed the Ambassador Membership Policy to reduce the overhead of Introduction and Welcome Messages. If you want welcome a new Ambassador, because of regional or other aspects, please do this in a private message. I will Introduce and welcome new Ambassadors to this List once a week. There are some of "pre-policy" Ambassadors who have not subscribed the ML yet - they will send Intros as usual. So, here they are: Welcome to Fedora Ambassadors, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Setkeh https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dp67 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pengjiayou Health and Happiness Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From shambo.linux at gmail.com Mon Sep 22 10:31:33 2008 From: shambo.linux at gmail.com (Shambo Bose) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:01:33 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Regarding Advertisement of Fedora on TV In-Reply-To: <20c8d090809220118j2f97f6catcc6b7a6b5399f355@mail.gmail.com> References: <731096f40809211432v348cac12gfa807b0d525689d5@mail.gmail.com> <7a0d56080809212155p62c4b800o8c50c7a0bc39b180@mail.gmail.com> <511774140809220044u7943af47oa85464f568d32430@mail.gmail.com> <20c8d090809220118j2f97f6catcc6b7a6b5399f355@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: hi We can contact Red Hat regarding this topic and can ask them to give their opinion. regards, Shambo Bose -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Mon Sep 22 10:34:59 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:04:59 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Regarding Advertisement of Fedora on TV In-Reply-To: References: <731096f40809211432v348cac12gfa807b0d525689d5@mail.gmail.com> <7a0d56080809212155p62c4b800o8c50c7a0bc39b180@mail.gmail.com> <511774140809220044u7943af47oa85464f568d32430@mail.gmail.com> <20c8d090809220118j2f97f6catcc6b7a6b5399f355@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48D774D3.2080302@gmail.com> Shambo Bose wrote: > We can contact Red Hat regarding this topic and can ask them to give > their opinion. I am reasonably sure that a number of folks from Red Hat are on this list or, reading this list - so what specific point do you think an opinion is required ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From shambo.linux at gmail.com Mon Sep 22 11:24:58 2008 From: shambo.linux at gmail.com (Shambo Bose) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:54:58 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Regarding Advertisement of Fedora on TV In-Reply-To: <48D774D3.2080302@gmail.com> References: <731096f40809211432v348cac12gfa807b0d525689d5@mail.gmail.com> <7a0d56080809212155p62c4b800o8c50c7a0bc39b180@mail.gmail.com> <511774140809220044u7943af47oa85464f568d32430@mail.gmail.com> <20c8d090809220118j2f97f6catcc6b7a6b5399f355@mail.gmail.com> <48D774D3.2080302@gmail.com> Message-ID: about the advertisement , if it is possible or not, if possible then what can be done . Thanks. 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However, pending money on TV advertising is not an effective way of putting Fedora in front of the people who care about it. To mass-market any product takes (literally) tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising. That is the kind of advertising that you have to do just to make people *aware* of a product. And if they can't figure out from a 30-second commercial what it is, you've essentially wasted that money. There is no effective way to explain Fedora in 30 seconds, and therefore this would not be a good use of anyone's money, including Red Hat. I'm also certain that if TV advertising were seen as a viable option, Red Hat would have already blitzed the media with an ad campaign for Red Hat Enterprise Linux quite a while ago! I think the best way to "advertise" Fedora is targeted -- find the venues in which Fedora is likely to generate interest and action, and concentrate on personally getting involved in those venues. -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From scott at tekkie.org Mon Sep 22 13:45:36 2008 From: scott at tekkie.org (Scott Thistle) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:15:36 -0230 Subject: [Ambassadors] first time Fedora user: The Linux Girlfriend Test Message-ID: <3d0809e40809220645h3fe00459w71e5069130bc9148@mail.gmail.com> I found this very interesting read. I have run into a lot of the things that this person did when trying to set up someone new on Fedora or any other distro. I thought I would share this as it does mention a lot about this new users experience with Fedora. http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/the-linux-girlfriend-test-465968?artc_pg=1 -- Scott Thistle scott at tekkie.org sthistle at fedoraproject.org https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sthistle -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From azneita at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 22 14:16:45 2008 From: azneita at fedoraproject.org (Heherson Pagcaliwagan) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:16:45 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Software Freedom Day 2008 (Philippines) Message-ID: <928156be0809220716t357d8adaje3cfb36a2c079a2d@mail.gmail.com> I was waiting for Ma'am Magie to post the pics of our recently concluded SFD celebration but since she's still probably recuperating from the event, let me, in her stead, report what happened last Saturday at the National Computer Center here in Quezon City. Official registration was supposed to start 8:30 AM but when I passed by the venue around 7:30AM on my way to my office, students were already milling around the complex and a provincial bus was already parked beside the venue. Talk about being early! When I returned around 8:45AM, the place was already packed and Ma'am Magie was already going on circles :) I was designated as the booth man by virtue of seniority :D *(Truth be told, Ma'am Magie was busy organizing the whole event while Sir Engels was giving speeches)*. The Fedora booth consisted of a tarpaulin, flyers, two LiveUSB Station posters and my office laptop featuring Fedora 9. I originally planned to bring my Asus eee loaded with eeedora to the event but I was locked out of our office with no keys -- stupid me. A friend later took pity on me and sent for his two laptops *(both of which are Windows)* and together we burned away those USB sticks. Apart from burning LiveUSBs, I gave away flyers, cajoled SFD-goers to try Fedora 9 using my laptop, gave impromptu talks about the merit of Fedora and its difference with other Linux distributions (most of the time - Ubuntu), met students, teachers and other professionals and had a blast the whole time. Talking particularly with the kids made me feel like a rock star :) The major drawer of our booth was ceratinly the LiveUSB creation. It would have been FreeMedia but early on, we have decided to do away with the distribution of DVDs and LiveCDs because that would entail spending money we don't really have much of. What meager funds we have scrapped together were funneled into the whole event. Either way, we had registered around 50 individuals who still wanted to hear more about the Fedora Project and possibly contribute themselves. 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I thought I would share this as it does mention a lot about this new users experience with Fedora. http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/the-linux-girlfriend-test-465968?artc_pg=1 -- Scott Thistle scott at tekkie.org sthistle at fedoraproject.org https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sthistle -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It seems there was a outage on one of the Mailservers. ... while talking to int-mx1.corp.redhat.com.: >>> DATA <<< 500 5.5.1 Command unrecognized: "XXXX" 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable I have put a ticket to the Infrastructure Team - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/859 and i hope for investigation and a solution - we had similar trouble with List in the last weeks https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-August/msg00119.html thanks for patience Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From azneita.dev at gmail.com Mon Sep 22 22:09:28 2008 From: azneita.dev at gmail.com (Heherson Pagcaliwagan) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:09:28 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Software Freedom Day 2008 (Philippines) Message-ID: <928156be0809221509p2a81723axb2433147e6d7448c@mail.gmail.com> Seems like *@fedoraproject.org was out so i'm resending my report... typos and all :D I was waiting for Ma'am Magie to post the pics of our recently concluded SFD celebration but since she's still probably recuperating from the event, let me, in her stead, report what happened last Saturday at the National Computer Center here in Quezon City. Official registration was supposed to start 8:30 AM but when I passed by the venue around 7:30AM on my way to my office, students were already milling around the complex and a provincial bus was already parked beside the venue. Talk about being early! When I returned around 8:45AM, the place was already packed and Ma'am Magie was already going on circles :) I was designated as the booth man by virtue of seniority :D *(Truth be told, Ma'am Magie was busy organizing the whole event while Sir Engels was giving speeches)*. The Fedora booth consisted of a tarpaulin, flyers, two LiveUSB Station posters and my office laptop featuring Fedora 9. I originally planned to bring my Asus eee loaded with eeedora to the event but I was locked out of our office with no keys -- stupid me. A friend later took pity on me and sent for his two laptops *(both of which are Windows)* and together we burned away those USB sticks. Apart from burning LiveUSBs, I gave away flyers, cajoled SFD-goers to try Fedora 9 using my laptop, gave impromptu talks about the merit of Fedora and its difference with other Linux distributions (most of the time - Ubuntu), met students, teachers and other professionals and had a blast the whole time. Talking particularly with the kids made me feel like a rock star :) The major drawer of our booth was certainly the LiveUSB creation. It would have been FreeMedia but early on, we have decided to do away with the distribution of DVDs and LiveCDs because that would entail spending money we don't really have much of. What meager funds we have scrapped together were funneled into the whole event. I think our FreeMedia program could expect a lot more requests coming from the Philippines - I just gave away its URL. Either way, we had registered around 50 individuals who wanted to hear more about the Fedora Project and possibly contribute themselves. These included teachers who want their students contribute as ambassadors and/or developers, students who wanted to make a case study in the use of Fedora and professionals who are interested in holding seminars/trainings in deploying Fedora in their line of work. I'm now helping these guys get onboard the project. This is just first event so future events would certainly be better. ~ Herson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jan.ekbom at gmail.com Mon Sep 22 22:19:09 2008 From: jan.ekbom at gmail.com (Jan Ekbom) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:19:09 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Regarding Advertisement of Fedora on TV In-Reply-To: <1222083979.25208.11.camel@victoria-eth> References: <731096f40809211432v348cac12gfa807b0d525689d5@mail.gmail.com> <7a0d56080809212155p62c4b800o8c50c7a0bc39b180@mail.gmail.com> <511774140809220044u7943af47oa85464f568d32430@mail.gmail.com> <20c8d090809220118j2f97f6catcc6b7a6b5399f355@mail.gmail.com> <48D774D3.2080302@gmail.com> <1222083979.25208.11.camel@victoria-eth> Message-ID: <731096f40809221519x34f6f256sa79d1a639e1ea77@mail.gmail.com> What about spending 200 000 $ to make a really good flash animation that could be seen on YouTube? 2008/9/22 Paul W. Frields > On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 16:54 +0530, Shambo Bose wrote: > > about the advertisement , if it is possible or not, if possible then > > what can be done . > > I appreciate that the Ambassadors on this thread are enthusiastic about > Fedora and want to see that lots of people hear about it. However, > pending money on TV advertising is not an effective way of putting > Fedora in front of the people who care about it. To mass-market any > product takes (literally) tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars > in advertising. That is the kind of advertising that you have to do > just to make people *aware* of a product. And if they can't figure out > from a 30-second commercial what it is, you've essentially wasted that > money. > > There is no effective way to explain Fedora in 30 seconds, and therefore > this would not be a good use of anyone's money, including Red Hat. I'm > also certain that if TV advertising were seen as a viable option, Red > Hat would have already blitzed the media with an ad campaign for Red Hat > Enterprise Linux quite a while ago! > > I think the best way to "advertise" Fedora is targeted -- find the > venues in which Fedora is likely to generate interest and action, and > concentrate on personally getting involved in those venues. > > -- > Paul W. Frields > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nacross at gmail.com Mon Sep 22 22:40:47 2008 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:40:47 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] SFD2008 - Nicaragua Message-ID: Hello, Just a short notice to report the SFD2008 celebration at Nicaragua [1]. We gather around 1,300 person for the whole event, whit a participation of up to 750 at the conference room. At the conference room was a distribution of material including a folder with a CD with Open Source Software and slide of the conferences. It also included other relevant information. We manage to distribute 500 sheets (logos printed on colors) with information about Fedora Project and the local Fedora team in those folders. This event was coordinated by the Nicargua's Linux User Gruop, and we have different distros represented in this event. But because of my involvement all the computers that were borrowed from our venue, the Universidad Centroamericana[2], were all running fedora. This was 40 pc at the workshops, 16 pc at the game contest area, 6 pc for registrations and the pc at the conference hall. All the computer running games had fedora stickers on the border of the monitor. Fedora Installs were number two, just behind openSUSE. We sold 45 discs of fedora 9 and 15 discs fedora game spin (about US $1.5 each to regain founds for more disc and pamphlets). The only downside was the t-shirt sale. We only were able to sold one, mostly due shortage of help on the "market place". Any way we had almost 50 t-shirt ready for next event. For more info regarding the whole event, and not the Fedora highliths you can see the preliminary report [3] I am looking forward for include Nicaraguan events on the next budget, but by now we will focus on the F10 release party. We are planing what we can manage with our own resources, and we will be posting shortly when we secure a venue for the F10 release party. [1] http://linuxtour.org/sfd [2] http://www.uca.edu.ni [3] http://leogg.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/sfd-2008-preliminary-report/ Neville A. Cross https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:yn1v From vfernandezg at gmail.com Mon Sep 22 22:48:54 2008 From: vfernandezg at gmail.com (Victor Fernandez) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:48:54 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] ZFS on Fedora Linux 9 Message-ID: <23edaffd0809221548hd317441j6881fc17290e9f4f@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I send you one intesenting video about one the most important technologies development around the OpenSolaris project and his porting (with success) to other OS like Linux and BSDs... exactly on Fedora Linux 9. http://vfernandezg.blogspot.com/2008/09/zfs-on-linux.html => ZFS Best regards. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 23 14:37:27 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:07:27 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] fedora 10 beta In-Reply-To: <5bddd8fd0809230721y1fa47045i4625065c9f228c41@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bddd8fd0809230721y1fa47045i4625065c9f228c41@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48D8FF27.1080805@fedoraproject.org> nihed mbarek wrote: > Hi, > I know that fedora 10 will be available today but at what time ?? > It won't be. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2008-September/msg00015.html Usual time of release is 10:00 AM EST http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Schedule "Historically Test and General Availability releases happen at 10:00am Eastern US Time, which is either 1500UTC or 1400UTC depending on daylight savings." Rahul From shambo.linux at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 16:18:18 2008 From: shambo.linux at gmail.com (Shambo Bose) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:48:18 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Regarding Advertisement of Fedora on TV In-Reply-To: <731096f40809221519x34f6f256sa79d1a639e1ea77@mail.gmail.com> References: <7a0d56080809212155p62c4b800o8c50c7a0bc39b180@mail.gmail.com> <511774140809220044u7943af47oa85464f568d32430@mail.gmail.com> <20c8d090809220118j2f97f6catcc6b7a6b5399f355@mail.gmail.com> <48D774D3.2080302@gmail.com> <1222083979.25208.11.camel@victoria-eth> <731096f40809221519x34f6f256sa79d1a639e1ea77@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: hi, I posted earlier that I saw some Linux commercials on the TV some years ago and here are the You Tube links : http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=PLHjT5-XM9o IBM Linux ADs : http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=KwEWxpOWOok http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=EwL0G9wK8j4 Thanks Regards, Shambo Bose -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 17:04:37 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:04:37 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_=5BReminder=5D_FAMNA_Meeting_=40_?= =?utf-8?q?2008-09-23_7pm_=E2=80=93_8pm_=28Personal=29?= In-Reply-To: <0016e645b7b6fd25c90457931ae1@google.com> References: <0016e645b7b6fd25c90457931ae1@google.com> Message-ID: Clint Savage, this is a reminder for FAMNA Meeting 2008-09-23 7pm ? 8pm (Timezone: Mountain Time) irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting (map) Calendar: Personal Just a quick reminder that we'll be holding our weekly meeting in #fedora-meeting (irc.freenode.net) tonight at 9pm EDT (01:00 UTC) If you are interested in participating, or have something to contribute, feel free to add it to our agenda http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/ See you all there. From hagr182 at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 22:17:44 2008 From: hagr182 at gmail.com (Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:17:44 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Regarding Advertisement of Fedora on TV In-Reply-To: <731096f40809211432v348cac12gfa807b0d525689d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <731096f40809211432v348cac12gfa807b0d525689d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1d24cdf80809231517t36d0b47bkc1092c3c5bbef953@mail.gmail.com> How about a Facebook advert?? its really no that expensive, and many ppl use it, that in addition to the "Fedora Rocks" group, is great advertisement 2008/9/21 Jan Ekbom > I would certainly contribute with money for that purpose, if Red Hat spends > their part. > > 2008/9/9 Shambo Bose > >> I cant remember correctly ( may be I am wrong) but I think I saw a >>> advertisement of Linux on television few years back. If I am right, can we >>> publish a Fedora Advertisement on television? Is it possible? >>> >> >> regards, >> >> Shambo Bose >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If I am right, can we publish a Fedora Advertisement on television? Is it possible? regards, Shambo Bose -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stickster at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 23:05:13 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:05:13 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Regarding Advertisement of Fedora on TV In-Reply-To: <881774.22384.qm@web45807.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <881774.22384.qm@web45807.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1222211113.7462.17.camel@victoria-eth.internal.frields.org> On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 15:59 -0700, Hamada Zahera wrote: > I suggest to create a group in facebook for Fedora to inform all > people and get in touch with them about Fedora. Already exists: http://tinyurl.com/4738pq http://tinyurl.com/4yp9dl I typed "Fedora" into the Facebook search to find these. Everyone else should, too, before we start making duplicate groups and splitting the community for no good reason. -- Paul W. 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Larry Cafiero On 9/23/08, Clint Savage wrote: > Clint Savage, this is a reminder for > > FAMNA Meeting > > 2008-09-23 7pm ? 8pm > (Timezone: Mountain Time) > irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting (map) > Calendar: Personal > > Just a quick reminder that we'll be holding our weekly meeting in > #fedora-meeting (irc.freenode.net) tonight at 9pm EDT (01:00 UTC) > > If you are interested in participating, or have something to > contribute, feel free to add it to our agenda > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/ > > See you all there. > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From herlo1 at gmail.com Wed Sep 24 02:26:12 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:26:12 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAMNA Meeting Minutes from 2008-09-23 Message-ID: -!- ke4qqq changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting < ke4qqq> DavidNalley < N3LRX> RandyBerry aka dp67 < ke4qqq> welcome Randy < rislam> hi all < rislam> sorry to miss last couple meeting * DemonJester BrianPowell < ke4qqq> so who is leading this meeting? < herlo> w00t! we're definitely growing :) < inode0> JohnRose < rislam> meeting starts already < rislam> RashadulIslam < crossbytes> KevinHiggins < pcalarco> nine, nice turnout! < herlo> yep, sure is < herlo> ke4qqq: did we invite spevack? < ke4qqq> I did he siad he couldn't attend, but I have his answers < ke4qqq> it's 5am there or something < herlo> yes, its actually 2am, I was wrong before < inode0> Is there an agenda beyond FADNA budget? < herlo> well, as per normal, we could go through tasks < ke4qqq> much to speak about < ke4qqq> but it iusn't listed unfortunately < herlo> I think someone needs to make sure the meeting agenda isn't ignored < herlo> should we each take a week? < rislam> i only see the budget at the agenda < herlo> there are four regional ambassadors... < ke4qqq> yes - lets let rislam take it this week! < herlo> okay < herlo> +1 < herlo> I'm happy to do the stuff for next week < karlie1> KarlieRobinson < karlie1> sorry I'm late < herlo> Hi karlie1 < herlo> I saw you a minute ago < rislam> oh i am behind of couple weeks < herlo> you looked like you were on time < rislam> i would be happy someone take this week < karlie1> I'm having touble with IRC on my own computer. Using Todd's now\ < herlo> indeed < herlo> rislam: I can post the logs, but its not hard to lead a meeting. Why not give it a try? < inode0> DemonJester: you are in charge, go :) < DemonJester> lol.. < inode0> Ok, let's start < inode0> FADNA budget - who has info on that? < ke4qqq> ! < ke4qqq> we don't have an exact number < ke4qqq> but max said the upper end is around 500 < ke4qqq> so it's gotta be less than that < inode0> so what do want budget for? < rislam> i believe each regional leader have 700 maximum < ke4qqq> no - we have 700 total for this quarter - so we each have 175 < ke4qqq> plus event totals < herlo> yeah, that * herlo really tried to beat ke4qqq to that < herlo> :) < ke4qqq> but inode0 raises a good question < herlo> the thing is, this is separate from the budgeted amounts, right ke4qqq < ke4qqq> yes < ke4qqq> this is basically because fudcon had left over funds < rislam> its very important what the budget for < pcalarco> we could cover lunch on Sunday for those attending < herlo> so here's what I am thinking. We could use the funds to buy food < herlo> for sunday < herlo> breakfast and/or lunch < herlo> but how many are coming? 5? 10? < pcalarco> we get breakfast with the hotel methinks for free < rislam> its not a good idea to expense only for food < herlo> pcalarco: continental breakfasts aren't always that great < pcalarco> six confirmed, two more possible < inode0> looks like 9 signed up so far, can probably expect a few more * herlo needs to confirm * DemonJester as do I < inode0> oops 8 * inode0 is counting on herlo and DemonJester < herlo> DemonJester: you are now confirmed < DemonJester> herlo: thx! < herlo> np, figured why have two people edit < herlo> I think there are other things to budget for, one is we could purchase items to build the rest of the eventbox < herlo> we still need a switch and a few other things. It will be at OLF < inode0> I'd like to give volunteers a chance to pitch in first if possible < ke4qqq> how big of a switch? < herlo> inode0: good point, bring yer crap to OLF/FAD-NA :) < inode0> I can give a switch without any problem - 16 port < ke4qqq> and remember, we still have media to produce, so don't feel obligated to spend 500 :) < herlo> ke4qqq: can we get these funds either way? Or do we have to spend them at FADNA? < ke4qqq> no they are current surplus global realm of ambassadors has access to it < ke4qqq> so if we don't spend it here we could (or someone else could) spend it < herlo> ahh, so we should try to get a budget for this money soon, if I am reading this right? < herlo> doesnt' really matter what its for, just something useful < ke4qqq> exactly and that max will approve * herlo sees that surplus being very useful for getting Media ramped up < inode0> ok, question - do we need to decide this or is max just willing to reimburse expenses up to around that amount? < herlo> inode0: a couple thoughts about donations to EventBox, we really should advertise this fact and we should not wait too long for those donations... < ke4qqq> not planning is a bad idea.... < herlo> +1 ke4qqq < inode0> herlo: was planning to suggest arranging that as an action item for this week < herlo> indeed, +1 inode0 < rislam> Event box should be promoted strongly\ < inode0> we have a box and it should leave OLF in great shape < herlo> right < herlo> k, back to the budget then < inode0> back to my last question please? < herlo> I think ke4qqq answered that < inode0> do we need to itemize things in advance and have max approve things? < ke4qqq> I want to get the money committed from max.....otherwise it's free game for others < inode0> if not I'd like to move on now < herlo> sounds to me like we want it, but don't know what we'd use it for at FADNA < inode0> rislam: what beyond food did you have in mind? < rislam> we should try to involve new Ambassadors\ < ke4qqq> and perhaps we need to table it for this week. < ke4qqq> but I think we need a plan < inode0> would it be alright to research previous FADs and look at this next week? or during this week in #fedora-ambassadors? < herlo> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADEMEA2008#Agenda < ke4qqq> +1 < inode0> we don't seem prepared to deal with it right now < herlo> I thinks this could help < pcalarco> have we gone through the Ambassador list to see if there are dormant Ambassadors from OH, IN, MI, etc. that we could prompt to see if they plan on attending? < pcalarco> would this be worth doing to get more folks attending FAD? < inode0> pcalarco: I went through all I could find in Indiana and Michigan < pcalarco> indoe: ok < ke4qqq> pcalarco: we went through basically the entire us/canada < inode0> I think it is a good idea to try to poke people about OLF though < herlo> who's manning the booth at OLF? This might be a bit off-topic atm, but I thought I'd bring it up < ke4qqq> good question < inode0> 30 minutes in, let's table budget at least until the end of the meeting now and move on to tasks ... < herlo> +1 < inode0> Polo update? < inode0> Should be moved to completed? < ke4qqq> +1 < herlo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks <-- we're looking here now < inode0> pcalarco: can you update us on polos round 2 < pcalarco> Still collecting monies for second round of orders, but yes, these are ready to ship < pcalarco> I have issued invoices to all who ordered < inode0> good, how many ordered this time? < pcalarco> 9 for 5 Ambassadors * ke4qqq hasn't paid him yet - I'll try and take care of that tonight or tomorrow morning at latest. * DemonJester too < pcalarco> thx guys :) < inode0> alright, perhaps this will be wrapped up next week < inode0> good job and thank you pcalarco < pcalarco> glad to help < inode0> ambassador kit news? < herlo> inode0: no news, only that we'll be working on it at FUDCon F11 Boston < inode0> event box news? < ke4qqq> ohohoh I have some!!! < herlo> EventBox is ready to ship, will be sending it out on Sunday to iWolf < herlo> ke4qqq: go! < ke4qqq> we have XOs now! < herlo> w00t! < ianweller> :-o < rislam> thats a great 8 news < inode0> so there is one item that will be deposited into the pelican at OLF < herlo> how many? < herlo> that pelican will be so happy < inode0> there are 4 XOs as I understand it < herlo> there's a thought, we should consider decorating the box to look more fedora-ish < herlo> sure, but I wanted to make sure we got them all.. :) < jeremy> ... and XOs can soon run stock fedora :-) < ke4qqq> yes!! < inode0> rislam: are you coming to OLF/FADNA? < ke4qqq> there are 4 * herlo hopes so < karlie> I won't be at OLF < karlie> Schedule conflicts < rislam> i could not attend this time, i love to, but its quit impossible for me these days < herlo> sad eyes for karlie and rislam < inode0> karlie: :( I wanted to go to your talk < karlie> I was on the list for PA, and ON, but i have to back out < rislam> but we love to see some pictures and make sure no body miss us, its all of ur job < rislam> :) < inode0> rislam: just asked to see if we could pass off an XO to you there < inode0> event box transfer policy update? < ke4qqq> yeah avoid the shipping costs < ke4qqq> and border hassles < herlo> inode0: now that we have an eventbox, we should make this discussion something we could add to the FADNA agenda?? < ke4qqq> +1 < ke4qqq> particularly expanding it so we have multiple < inode0> yes < herlo> sure, but I think we need to figure out how to run with just one for now, because I'm not sure when we'll get funds to build another... < inode0> before we leave event boxes will someone volunteer for the new task? * herlo just ahd an awesom idea :) < ke4qqq> whats the new task? < inode0> setup a way for volunteers to contribute pieces we are missing, sign up on the wiki, etc. * herlo found a reason to use the budget 'EventBoxen' :) < herlo> inode0: its already kind of there, just needs to be added to. I did that on the eventbox page < ke4qqq> ohhhhh < inode0> and advertise it on f-a-l and elsewhere as appropriate? < ke4qqq> so we add another "box" < herlo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox < herlo> we should consider naming our boxen :) < inode0> ideally we could have FADNA attendees bring most of what the first one needs I think, if there were a clear way for them to assign themselves pieces of it < herlo> I want to call one 'Norma' < inode0> herlo can name the first one what he wants < ianweller> call one 'klauckengefroft' < herlo> lol * ianweller goes back into lurk mode < herlo> ianweller: this is America, nobody speaks German :) < ianweller> herlo: that's not even german :D < herlo> if that is even what it is :D < herlo> lol < ianweller> mock german, at the most < herlo> rofl < inode0> dog german < pcalarco> looks somewhat dutch < ianweller> that's how i give hostnames to computers now hehe < inode0> like dog latin < herlo> okay, back on track people :) < inode0> ok, yes, event box transfer policy update? * herlo points up to his previous statement < herlo> oops < herlo> oh, wait, I did say that. 41minutes after the hour < rislam> its been a while < herlo> 19:40 < herlo> inode0: now that we have an eventbox, we should make this discussion something we could add to the FADNA agenda?? < pcalarco> +1 < rislam> please add new bies as Ambassadors for the community < inode0> oh, that was in answer to my question < herlo> inode0: it was < inode0> ok < herlo> sorry, it wasn't clear < inode0> passing over media unless iWolf is awake? < inode0> Any other FAD business? < rislam> and also the job performance of the Ambassadors < herlo> rislam: hang on, that's new business. Goes at the end < DemonJester> herlo: did you reserve a room? < herlo> DemonJester: working on it, but vwbusguy wasn't answering my pings earlier * inode0 loses control to hotel booking agents < DemonJester> herlo: good luck I have been calling since last week nothing available... < herlo> inode0: I don't think there is any other business... < herlo> Bueller? Bueller? < inode0> Any progress on event planning for FAD? I know there has been :) < pcalarco> is it too early to plan for manning the Fedora booth at OLF? < inode0> now is good, I wanted to discuss that too < herlo> pcalarco: probably not, iWolf woudl be the one in charge of that, but he's not here... < pcalarco> we could set up a matrix like they used at LinuxTag 2007 < pcalarco> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2007 < pcalarco> smaller obviously, but < ke4qqq> oohhhh +1 < herlo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/OhioLinuxFest/OhioLinuxFest2008 < inode0> yeah, only one day and it will be easier to volunteer for slots once the OLF schedule is released < herlo> use that page... < inode0> oh, ambassadors signing up for FADNA should sign up there too I suppose < pcalarco> great! < inode0> ok, pcalarco: can you touch base with iWolf and see if he needs help? < pcalarco> will do < inode0> thanks < herlo> we should link to FADNA page probably as well * inode0 skips other outstanding tasks unless he hears screaming and gnashing of teeth * herlo looks < herlo> nope, not from me < inode0> open floor < herlo> rislam: ?? < rislam> yes i am here < herlo> new business < rislam> please add newbie Ambassadors < herlo> what does that mean? < inode0> add to what? < herlo> add them to what? < rislam> we need to involve new ambassadors < ke4qqq> so how do we do that < ke4qqq> ? < inode0> recruiting new ambassadors is on the FADNA agenda now < herlo> in what form? < inode0> I think ... < zoglesby> I am new...I just got approved today and the process was very fast and easy < herlo> zoglesby: welcome < inode0> welcome zoglesby < inode0> meeting on your first day too < rislam> welcome zoglesby < ke4qqq> where are you at zoglesby? < DemonJester> welcome zoglesby! < zoglesby> Delaware and Spain < zoglesby> I go back and forth a lot < ke4qqq> cool < rislam> new ambassadors should train and work together with all old ambassadors < herlo> rislam: back to your point now < inode0> might you be at OLF or FUDcon Boston? < inode0> mentoring is part of our mission < herlo> rislam: do you have a proposal for such a thing? Would you like to discuss this more in a meeting? < rislam> thx inode0 < rislam> i love to discuss it more < rislam> if all of u allow me to do so < herlo> it is part of our mission, but its probably a good thing to nail down how we go about such a thing < inode0> actually I think it would be a good meeting topic too, suggests rislam add it to an agenda < DemonJester> +1 < herlo> rislam: add it to next week's agenda, we'll discuss it < rislam> it would be great then < ke4qqq> outstanding < rislam> i prepare all the stuff then for that < inode0> put it before the task list so we get to it :) < ke4qqq> inode0: what's the button status? < herlo> k < rislam> thank u all for the support < inode0> I ordered 1000 Fedora logo buttons, no ETA yet but I expect them before OLF < ke4qqq> rislam: shoot me an email with an address I can ship an XO to < rislam> ah ok < herlo> inode0: nice < rislam> thx < herlo> rislam: edit this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-29 < herlo> oops * herlo moves the page first < inode0> DemonJester: didn't you want to discuss this at FADNA too? < herlo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-29 < herlo> is now https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-30 < DemonJester> inode0: yes < herlo> DemonJester: inode0: trick is, rislam won't be at FADNA, so we could discuss it further at FADNA maybe? < inode0> would it be obnoxious to post agenda's in advance along with the meeting reminder so when there are special topics ambassadors are aware of them? < herlo> inode0: nope, can do < DemonJester> herlo: that is what I was thinking as well. < pcalarco> that would be helpful, actually * herlo wants to know if you guys liked the meeting reminders as it is anyway < ke4qqq> inode0: hmmm some would say that'd be a good idea < herlo> I can improve them a bit < inode0> it will also help nudge us to create them * ke4qqq was confused by this 'mountain time' :) < herlo> lol < herlo> MDT, its EDT -2 < karlie> well edt say < rislam> i added it < rislam> please check < karlie> says it's past my bed time < inode0> I like meeting reminders + agendas < inode0> night karlie < karlie> good night everyone < herlo> I think I can make a cron job that does the reminders better < herlo> so I will work on it... < rislam> good night karlie < DemonJester> gnite karlie < pcalarco> gnk < karlie> :-* < inode0> are ianweller's new business cards official now? < herlo> dunno < ke4qqq> I think so but sure ianweller can tell us < ianweller> i'd ask stickster_afk if he was around * DemonJester hopes so I am getting some printed < ianweller> he likes them < ke4qqq> I thought we voted them in < ianweller> i think everybody likes them, i dunno < herlo> sounds like rubber-stamping to me < ke4qqq> well if the fearless leader likes them they must be good < ke4qqq> :) < ianweller> if somebody can combine spoleeba's patch to get rid of the inkscape requirement on it with my git repo i will be very happy * ianweller looks at everyone in here * inode0 likes them a lot and thanks ianweller for creating them and dealing with all the critics < ianweller> :) * herlo ducks from ianweller's glare < rislam> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-30#Agenda * ke4qqq was one of those as well < rislam> please check < ianweller> if anyone is more experienced at programming python, though, and can combine the patch and the git repo and make it *work*, please, please do * ianweller will post the patch < pcalarco> rislam: looks good here < herlo> rislam: looks good < inode0> Is there any other new business for tonight? < herlo> nope, "not I", said the pig < ke4qqq> wow - 1:12 that's a new record < DemonJester> ;-) * inode0 is intentionally trying to closer to 60 minutes than 90 minutes < rislam> yeah I see tht < inode0> get < ke4qqq> +1 < rislam> its a new record for us\ < herlo> inode0: do you need me to post the notes? < inode0> I'd appreciate it < herlo> np, can do < herlo> It will probably be tomorrow early afternoon, but I'll get the summary up there too < inode0> ok, will close meeting at quarter past the hour if there are no new topics tonight < ke4qqq> cool! < ke4qqq> so rislam has next weeks? < rislam> +1 inode < rislam> ok < herlo> perfect < rislam> thx again all of u\ < inode0> EOF < inode0> thanks everyone From hagr182 at gmail.com Wed Sep 24 03:58:17 2008 From: hagr182 at gmail.com (Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:58:17 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Regarding Advertisement of Fedora on TV In-Reply-To: <1222211113.7462.17.camel@victoria-eth.internal.frields.org> References: <881774.22384.qm@web45807.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <1222211113.7462.17.camel@victoria-eth.internal.frields.org> Message-ID: <1d24cdf80809232058y694eaa84j963bd72d2a21acfc@mail.gmail.com> Thats what I said, the main group seems to be "Fedora Rocks", already joined, but I was talking about the adverts theyre offering on the side display of the webpage 2008/9/23 Paul W. Frields > On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 15:59 -0700, Hamada Zahera wrote: > > I suggest to create a group in facebook for Fedora to inform all > > people and get in touch with them about Fedora. > > Already exists: > http://tinyurl.com/4738pq > http://tinyurl.com/4yp9dl > > I typed "Fedora" into the Facebook search to find these. Everyone else > should, too, before we start making duplicate groups and splitting the > community for no good reason. > > -- > Paul W. Frields > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Amazing ! http://vfernandezg.blogspot.com/2008/09/contenedores-en-linux.html Best regards. 2008/9/23 Victor Fernandez > Hi all, I send you one intesenting video about one the most important > technologies development around the OpenSolaris project and his porting > (with success) to other OS like Linux and BSDs... exactly on Fedora Linux 9. > > http://vfernandezg.blogspot.com/2008/09/zfs-on-linux.html => ZFS > > Best regards. > -- Victor M. Fernandez http://vfernandezg.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at gnsa.us Thu Sep 25 13:49:24 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:49:24 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] EVENT REPORT: SFD and Atlanta Linux Fest Message-ID: I attended the Atlanta Linux Fest on Saturday. The event was organized mainly by Ubuntu's Georgia LoCo, but had assistance from several of the other LUGs in the area. Dave Yates, podcaster extraordinaire, claims attendance at 144. For a first year event that's a great turn out. I was invited to talk about what's coming in Fedora 10 and also talked about some interesting things like Cobbler, FreeIPA, and OLPC. I have had a number of people come up and tell me that they've never heard of FreeIPA and an equal number that want to get involved with OLPC. It's nice to meet some new faces and put some faces with old names. Jas Eckard had his OLPC XO and that of course drew lots of attention. This event has completely wiped me out with regards to swag. We came away with a number of ideas - including the thought of creating a Southeast Open Source blog aggregator - ie Open Source Southeast Planet. We are trying this out with our Local LUG right now - Planet UCLUG lives, though it needs a ton of work from someone who can make things pretty. Hopefully will have something Southeast wide shortly. I had a number of people come up to me at the event after I mentioned FreeIPA as another cool thing being worked on in Fedora. They were absolutely awestruck - and virtually no one had heard of the project. Another Fedora Project that made waves was First Aid Kit which I mentioned almost right after someone talked about what to do if grub became hosed in Ubuntu. From jan.ekbom at gmail.com Thu Sep 25 14:28:55 2008 From: jan.ekbom at gmail.com (Jan Ekbom) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:28:55 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Regarding Advertisement of Fedora on TV In-Reply-To: <1d24cdf80809232058y694eaa84j963bd72d2a21acfc@mail.gmail.com> References: <881774.22384.qm@web45807.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <1222211113.7462.17.camel@victoria-eth.internal.frields.org> <1d24cdf80809232058y694eaa84j963bd72d2a21acfc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <731096f40809250728u620770b0kd121a2a2b9e597e@mail.gmail.com> We could collect all cool linux commercials from YouTube and similar websites in to one place: This one is really great: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x35AIGJaM5M&feature=related One other thing is that severla people participate in a longer film sequence, and that someone could be the director and the final editor of that material. 2008/9/24 Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez > Thats what I said, the main group seems to be "Fedora Rocks", already > joined, but I was talking about the adverts theyre offering on the side > display of the webpage > > 2008/9/23 Paul W. Frields > >> On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 15:59 -0700, Hamada Zahera wrote: >> > I suggest to create a group in facebook for Fedora to inform all >> > people and get in touch with them about Fedora. >> >> Already exists: >> http://tinyurl.com/4738pq >> http://tinyurl.com/4yp9dl >> >> I typed "Fedora" into the Facebook search to find these. Everyone else >> should, too, before we start making duplicate groups and splitting the >> community for no good reason. >> >> -- >> Paul W. Frields >> gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 >> http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ >> irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coldfire.hx at gmail.com Thu Sep 25 15:51:39 2008 From: coldfire.hx at gmail.com (Jay Bhatt) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:21:39 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need help to spread fedora Message-ID: <240999550809250851o75c9d0bdk4a7cf9f8e90927d0@mail.gmail.com> Hello friends, Im from india, gujarat there are still lots of are where fedora has not reach yet. I need your help in spreading fedora if you can send me some CD's or DVD's then i can spread it in a wide range of places this may increase many number of users also. So if any body out there can help me with this please contact me at my mail id. Thanking you Jay Bhatt. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From azneita at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 25 16:08:15 2008 From: azneita at fedoraproject.org (Heherson Pagcaliwagan) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:08:15 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora and Red Hat Profits Message-ID: <928156be0809250908j4d6dcad7g887aa5a6d3d8f49@mail.gmail.com> "Fedora is our key open source development platform with the community -- we have no plans to change that," Whitehurst said. "It is our community edition from which we develop a true enterprise-class piece of software with Red Hat Enterprise Linux, so it's core to what we do. 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We > have celebrated a lot and hope everyone did. > > We have a group here and please guys join us @ > groups.google.com/group/nixdharan. > > I have sent you: > > 30 CDs of Fedora (5 cd per distro *6 distros) > 1 Net install CD > > Total 31 CDs. > > To Guys in himanchal pradesh, India. Hope this work will count and spread > Linux around the globe. > > PS: I don't know how to track the parcel in the courier. The service is GMS > and the tracking code is 100852097. Hope some one will find out a way. > > Wishes, > > Tushar. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So if any body out there can help me with this > please contact me at my mail id. > you can contact me, we can plan Fedora 10 party in future at Ahmedabad. > > > > > > Thanking you > Jay Bhatt. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner 16, Sun Rise complex, Nr. Mansi cross Road, Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. www.electromech.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kushaldas at gmail.com Thu Sep 25 19:26:01 2008 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:56:01 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora and Red Hat Profits In-Reply-To: <928156be0809250908j4d6dcad7g887aa5a6d3d8f49@mail.gmail.com> References: <928156be0809250908j4d6dcad7g887aa5a6d3d8f49@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/25 Heherson Pagcaliwagan : > "Fedora is our key open source development platform with the community -- we > have no plans to change that," Whitehurst said. "It is our community edition > from which we develop a true enterprise-class piece of software with Red Hat > Enterprise Linux, so it's core to what we do. It's not something we look at > directly monetizing nor is it something that we have considered." > > source: http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3773876/ I guess marketing list better place to discuss this. Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in From tushar.neupaney at gmail.com Fri Sep 26 01:39:53 2008 From: tushar.neupaney at gmail.com (Tushar Neupaney) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 07:24:53 +0545 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: ZFS on Fedora Linux 9 In-Reply-To: <23edaffd0809250431x55333c37hd76a959713f89063@mail.gmail.com> References: <23edaffd0809221548hd317441j6881fc17290e9f4f@mail.gmail.com> <23edaffd0809250431x55333c37hd76a959713f89063@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Victor going gr8. Enjoyed it bro! :-) 2008/9/25 Victor Fernandez > Hi all again, now a great video of Containers on Fedora 9... Amazing ! > > http://vfernandezg.blogspot.com/2008/09/contenedores-en-linux.html > > Best regards. > > 2008/9/23 Victor Fernandez > >> Hi all, I send you one intesenting video about one the most important >> technologies development around the OpenSolaris project and his porting >> (with success) to other OS like Linux and BSDs... exactly on Fedora Linux 9. >> >> http://vfernandezg.blogspot.com/2008/09/zfs-on-linux.html => ZFS >> >> Best regards. >> > > > > -- > Victor M. Fernandez > http://vfernandezg.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am pursuing my B.Tech in Computer Science Engineering from National Institute of Technology,Hamirpur where I am the system administrator of a GLUG-NITH server (www.glug-nith.org) which is currently hosting Fedora-mirror (ftp://fedora.glug-nith.org), TLDP and GNU mirror. I am also the administrator of GLUG-NITH mailing list. GLUG-NITH has, for the last 4 years, been working for the cause of promotion of the idea of using LINUX as an operating system among the students of NIT Hamirpur. > > I read you post on fedora-ambassadors mailing list regarding the Software freedom day. So I thought of sharing our experience of SFD with you. > On 20th we celebrated software freedom day(SFD) in our college. > We didn't expected many people since it being a holiday and also people were off to their home just after periodical exam. even we put the notice just one day before as everyone was busy in periodical. > > The event consisted of > 1 Introduction to glug-nith and campus ambassador program started by SunMicrosystem in our college. > 2 A detailed step by step installation of fedora 9 and openSolaris build 79. > 3 Distibution of openSolaris dvds to everyone. > We started at 4:30 in the evening with some 35 people, mostly new faces from 1st year. We started the session with the introduction to glug-nith and the ideology behind it, the opensSource concept and its learn and share philosophy! > We had plans of warping up everything within one hour, but people kept pouring in and within half an hour some 65 people were their in the seminar hall! infact we had to stand throughout the session as their was no chair left. > Student were quite interested and they did come up with lots of basic but interesting question! > > > In the end we distributed the dvd of opensolaris . It all took more than 2 hours but needless to say it was really great and much more than what we expected.I am also sending some of the pics in attachment. > We tried to get fedora DVDs but all went in vain. So if you can help us with fedora installation DVDs , i will be grateful to you. > > Also tell me how can I order a Fedora T-Shirt. > > > > Regards > > Varun Patial > > > > Get an email ID as yourname at ymail.com or yourname at rocketmail..com. 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Keep up the good work 2008/9/26 Hamada Zahera > Hello Fedorans > I'm hamada zahera, one of Fedora Ambassadors. we are going to organize an > event for fedora to students at my university.This event is to inform > students more information about Fedora project,relation between Fedora and > redhat,spread out Fedora and it includes live install for Fedora,it's also > scheduled for celebration for Software freedom day 2008. > > > I'm asking if it's possible to get some gifts for students (e.g Fedora > CD/DVD , T-shirts) > need your quick reply > > ---- > YOURS > Hamada Zahera > Fedora ambassdor > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From engels at bluepoint.com.ph Sat Sep 27 05:40:21 2008 From: engels at bluepoint.com.ph (Engels Antonio) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:40:21 +0800 (PHT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Software Freedom Day 2008 (Philippines) In-Reply-To: <928156be0809220716t357d8adaje3cfb36a2c079a2d@mail.gmail.com> References: <928156be0809220716t357d8adaje3cfb36a2c079a2d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48867.10.0.0.4.1222494021.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> Congratulations Magie and Herson! We originally expected 150 attendees, but more than 500 came! I'm sure the next events will be even better. I talked about the Fedora Project while Magie was running the whole event and Herson was manning the Fedora booth. Several teachers from different colleges expressed their interest in making the Fedora Project part of their students' thesis requirements. Scheduling of presentations to their college deans are now in progress. ;) On Mon, September 22, 2008 10:16 pm, Heherson Pagcaliwagan wrote: > I was waiting for Ma'am Magie to post the pics of our recently concluded > SFD celebration but since she's still probably recuperating from the > event, let me, in her stead, report what happened last Saturday at the > National Computer Center here in Quezon City. > > Official registration was supposed to start 8:30 AM but when I passed by > the venue around 7:30AM on my way to my office, students were already > milling around the complex and a provincial bus was already parked beside > the venue. Talk about being early! When I returned around 8:45AM, the > place was already packed and Ma'am Magie was already going on circles :) > > I was designated as the booth man by virtue of seniority :D *(Truth be > told, Ma'am Magie was busy organizing the whole event while Sir Engels > was giving speeches)*. The Fedora booth consisted of a tarpaulin, flyers, > two LiveUSB Station posters and my office laptop featuring Fedora 9. I > originally planned to bring my Asus eee loaded with eeedora to the event > but I was locked out of our office with no keys -- stupid me. A friend > later took pity on me and sent for his two laptops *(both of which are > Windows)* and together we burned away those USB sticks. > > Apart from burning LiveUSBs, I gave away flyers, cajoled SFD-goers to try > Fedora 9 using my laptop, gave impromptu talks about the merit of Fedora > and its difference with other Linux distributions (most of the time - > Ubuntu), met students, teachers and other professionals and had a blast > the whole time. Talking particularly with the kids made me feel like a > rock star :) > > The major drawer of our booth was ceratinly the LiveUSB creation. It > would have been FreeMedia but early on, we have decided to do away with > the distribution of DVDs and LiveCDs because that would entail spending > money we don't really have much of. What meager funds we have scrapped > together were funneled into the whole event. Either way, we had > registered around 50 individuals who still wanted to hear more about the > Fedora Project and possibly contribute themselves. These included > teachers who want their students contribute as ambassadors and/or > developers, students who wanted to make a case study in the use of Fedora > and professionals who are interested in holding seminars/trainings in > deploying Fedora in their line of work. > > ~ Herson From magie at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 27 06:01:07 2008 From: magie at fedoraproject.org (Magie Antonio) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:01:07 +0800 (PHT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Software Freedom Day 2008 (Philippines) In-Reply-To: <48867.10.0.0.4.1222494021.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> References: <928156be0809220716t357d8adaje3cfb36a2c079a2d@mail.gmail.com> <48867.10.0.0.4.1222494021.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> Message-ID: <26887.10.0.0.4.1222495267.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> Hi, Fedora Ambassadors Philippines took part in the Software Freedom Day celebration last Sept. 20, 2008. More than 500 attendees flocked to the National Computer Center building at the University of the Philippines in Diliman, Quezon City for the whole day affair. A booth was allotted to Fedora Project by the organizers, Bluepoint Linux Users Elite (alumni of Bluepoint Foundation) and Commission on Information and Communications Technology ? National Computer Center (CICT-NCC). Former Senator Jovito Salonga, Bluepoint Trustee Emeritus, gave the invocation and Director General Angelo Timoteo Diaz de Rivera of CICT-NCC delivered the opening remarks. Linuxcare founder, former Linux Foundation CTO, Linux Professional Institute and Free Standards Group founding sponsor Arthur Tyde delivered the keynote and talked about Oracle Unbreakable Linux. Tyde is currently a Linux & Open Source Solutions Architect at Oracle Philippines. The plenary session was capped by presentations about Open Source for the Visually Impaired, SM's Open Source Experience, IPv6, and the Fedora Project. Other organizations that supported and sponsored the event were: Philippine Linux Users Group, Philippine Linux Windows Users Group, Slackware Linux Users Group, LinuxChix Philippines, One Laptop Per Child (OLPC), Advanced Science and Technology Institute (ASTI), Computerworld, Oracle Philippines, and Sun Microsystems. Trend Micro was the official Codefest Sponsor that was participated by 15 college students from different universities and colleges in Metro Manila. The Fedora burnfest was a huge success. There was an overwhelming demand for Fedora discs and USB sticks. Participants also expressed interest in joining the Fedora Ambassadors. They are also looking forward to the Fedora 10 release party in December. We hope to receive support from FAMSCO by then. ;) More details and photos will soon be posted at http://bluepoint.com.ph/sfd08/ Regards, Magie -- Marie Grace Gaffud-Antonio Bluepoint Institute of Higher Technology Foundation http://bluepoint.com.ph/ > Congratulations Magie and Herson! We originally expected 150 attendees, > but more than 500 came! I'm sure the next events will be even better. I > talked about the Fedora Project while Magie was running the whole event > and Herson was manning the Fedora booth. Several teachers from different > colleges expressed their interest in making the Fedora Project part of > their students' thesis requirements. Scheduling of presentations to their > college deans are now in progress. ;) > > On Mon, September 22, 2008 10:16 pm, Heherson Pagcaliwagan wrote: >> I was waiting for Ma'am Magie to post the pics of our recently >> concluded SFD celebration but since she's still probably recuperating >> from the event, let me, in her stead, report what happened last >> Saturday at the National Computer Center here in Quezon City. >> >> Official registration was supposed to start 8:30 AM but when I passed >> by the venue around 7:30AM on my way to my office, students were >> already milling around the complex and a provincial bus was already >> parked beside the venue. Talk about being early! When I returned around >> 8:45AM, the place was already packed and Ma'am Magie was already going >> on circles :) >> >> I was designated as the booth man by virtue of seniority :D *(Truth be >> told, Ma'am Magie was busy organizing the whole event while Sir Engels >> was giving speeches)*. The Fedora booth consisted of a tarpaulin, >> flyers, two LiveUSB Station posters and my office laptop featuring >> Fedora 9. I originally planned to bring my Asus eee loaded with eeedora >> to the event but I was locked out of our office with no keys -- stupid >> me. A friend later took pity on me and sent for his two laptops *(both >> of which are Windows)* and together we burned away those USB sticks. >> >> Apart from burning LiveUSBs, I gave away flyers, cajoled SFD-goers to >> try Fedora 9 using my laptop, gave impromptu talks about the merit of >> Fedora and its difference with other Linux distributions (most of the >> time - Ubuntu), met students, teachers and other professionals and had >> a blast the whole time. Talking particularly with the kids made me feel >> like a rock star :) >> >> The major drawer of our booth was ceratinly the LiveUSB creation. It >> would have been FreeMedia but early on, we have decided to do away with >> the distribution of DVDs and LiveCDs because that would entail >> spending money we don't really have much of. What meager funds we have >> scrapped together were funneled into the whole event. Either way, we >> had registered around 50 individuals who still wanted to hear more >> about the Fedora Project and possibly contribute themselves. These >> included teachers who want their students contribute as ambassadors >> and/or developers, students who wanted to make a case study in the use >> of Fedora and professionals who are interested in holding >> seminars/trainings in deploying Fedora in their line of work. >> >> ~ Herson From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 27 09:09:02 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:09:02 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Software Freedom Day 2008 (Philippines) In-Reply-To: <928156be0809220716t357d8adaje3cfb36a2c079a2d@mail.gmail.com> References: <928156be0809220716t357d8adaje3cfb36a2c079a2d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/22 Heherson Pagcaliwagan : > I was waiting for Ma'am Magie to post the pics of our recently concluded SFD > celebration but since she's still probably recuperating from the event, let > me, in her stead, report what happened last Saturday at the National > Computer Center here in Quezon City. > > Official registration was supposed to start 8:30 AM but when I passed by the > venue around 7:30AM on my way to my office, students were already milling > around the complex and a provincial bus was already parked beside the venue. > Talk about being early! When I returned around 8:45AM, the place was already > packed and Ma'am Magie was already going on circles :) > > I was designated as the booth man by virtue of seniority :D (Truth be told, > Ma'am Magie was busy organizing the whole event while Sir Engels was giving > speeches). The Fedora booth consisted of a tarpaulin, flyers, two LiveUSB > Station posters and my office laptop featuring Fedora 9. I originally > planned to bring my Asus eee loaded with eeedora to the event but I was > locked out of our office with no keys -- stupid me. A friend later took pity > on me and sent for his two laptops (both of which are Windows) and together > we burned away those USB sticks. > > Apart from burning LiveUSBs, I gave away flyers, cajoled SFD-goers to try > Fedora 9 using my laptop, gave impromptu talks about the merit of Fedora and > its difference with other Linux distributions (most of the time - Ubuntu), > met students, teachers and other professionals and had a blast the whole > time. Talking particularly with the kids made me feel like a rock star :) > > The major drawer of our booth was ceratinly the LiveUSB creation. It would > have been FreeMedia but early on, we have decided to do away with the > distribution of DVDs and LiveCDs because that would entail spending money we > don't really have much of. What meager funds we have scrapped together were > funneled into the whole event. Either way, we had registered around 50 > individuals who still wanted to hear more about the Fedora Project and > possibly contribute themselves. These included teachers who want their > students contribute as ambassadors and/or developers, students who wanted to > make a case study in the use of Fedora and professionals who are interested > in holding seminars/trainings in deploying Fedora in their line of work. > > ~ Herson > Great report and great job! I'll take note of all the feedbacks you posted. Really thanks! Regards Francesco Ugolini From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 27 09:09:56 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:09:56 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] SFD2008 - Nicaragua In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/9/23 Neville A. Cross : > Hello, > > Just a short notice to report the SFD2008 celebration at Nicaragua [1]. > > We gather around 1,300 person for the whole event, whit a > participation of up to 750 at the conference room. At the conference > room was a distribution of material including a folder with a CD with > Open Source Software and slide of the conferences. It also included > other relevant information. We manage to distribute 500 sheets (logos > printed on colors) with information about Fedora Project and the local > Fedora team in those folders. > > This event was coordinated by the Nicargua's Linux User Gruop, and we > have different distros represented in this event. But because of my > involvement all the computers that were borrowed from our venue, the > Universidad Centroamericana[2], were all running fedora. This was 40 > pc at the workshops, 16 pc at the game contest area, 6 pc for > registrations and the pc at the conference hall. All the computer > running games had fedora stickers on the border of the monitor. > > Fedora Installs were number two, just behind openSUSE. We sold 45 > discs of fedora 9 and 15 discs fedora game spin (about US $1.5 each to > regain founds for more disc and pamphlets). The only downside was the > t-shirt sale. We only were able to sold one, mostly due shortage of > help on the "market place". Any way we had almost 50 t-shirt ready for > next event. > > For more info regarding the whole event, and not the Fedora highliths > you can see the preliminary report [3] > > I am looking forward for include Nicaraguan events on the next budget, > but by now we will focus on the F10 release party. We are planing what > we can manage with our own resources, and we will be posting shortly > when we secure a venue for the F10 release party. > > [1] http://linuxtour.org/sfd > [2] http://www.uca.edu.ni > [3] http://leogg.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/sfd-2008-preliminary-report/ > > Neville A. Cross > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:yn1v > Great report and great job! I'll take note of all the feedbacks you posted. Really thanks! Regards Francesco Ugolini From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 27 09:40:00 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:40:00 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] need your help to organize a local event for Fedora In-Reply-To: <512181.58803.qm@web45807.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <512181.58803.qm@web45807.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/26 Hamada Zahera : > Hello Fedorans > I'm hamada zahera, one of Fedora Ambassadors. we are going to organize an > event for fedora to students at my university.This event is to inform > students more information about Fedora project,relation between Fedora and > redhat,spread out Fedora and it includes live install for Fedora,it's also > scheduled for celebration for Software freedom day 2008. Your idea sounds good, I'm sure > > I'm asking if it's possible to get some gifts for students (e.g Fedora > CD/DVD , T-shirts) > need your quick reply > Actually the current quarter budget is closed. I suggest you the following, costless or really cheap activities: - Use your computer to build a F9 LiveUSB station. - Print some poster you can find in the Art section of fedoraproject.org - Burn some CDs/DVDs and give them to whoever can't afford a good internet connection or other solutions. - Make some cool activities at the booth: e.g. Show some key Fedora features, Tell people about some cool case studies (seneca college, NASA etc.) - Mix all those things in the Fedora style :) These are small things, but if you mix them all together you'll be able to hold a perfect event, and, stay sure, people will love Fedora. Hoping it could help you. If you have other questions, problems and so on, feel free to ask here. Best regards Francesco Ugolini I invite you, next time, to add your event in [1] one month before the quarter budget will be closed (see [2]). I'm sure we could help you with some resources. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Budget From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sat Sep 27 10:34:52 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:34:52 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 Release Parties Budget Reminder - important Message-ID: Just a reminder to post your F10 Release Parties Budget Preview according to https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00375.html Regards Francesco Ugolini From cmpahar at gmail.com Sat Sep 27 11:46:20 2008 From: cmpahar at gmail.com (Christos Bacharakis) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:46:20 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 Release Party @ Thessaloniki Message-ID: Seeing the huge success of our F9 release party (~60 people, 5 hours of fun), together with Dimitris Glezos, are planning a Fedora 10 Release party at Thessaloniki[1]. All the preparation is done. It'd be great if we could have some support for the event. Covering a subset of drinks, T-shirts, posters would be great. In particular, we were considering $80-$100. We estimate that they will be about 30-40 people. Thank you very much. [1]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseParty/F10/Thessaloniki Christos Bacharakis -- Christos Bacharakis cmpahar at fedoraproject.org http://cmpahar.wordpress.com GPG Key: CCFA0AEB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rishi_setiya09 at yahoo.co.in Sat Sep 27 12:36:02 2008 From: rishi_setiya09 at yahoo.co.in (rishi setiya) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:06:02 +0530 (IST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Rishi Setiya Message-ID: <860308.12912.qm@web7902.mail.in.yahoo.com> Hi to All, ?????????? As a i m a new member of this fedora project i want to now how to spread fedora in my region(Jabalpur, Madhya Pradesh)And how To increase the intrest in Fedora .So Please replay this mail and spend me the specimen dvd of fedora......... Thanks In Advance for Reply RISHI SETIYA T/14 Hathital Colony, Jabalpur (M.P.) Pin-482001 Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Go to http://in.webmessenger.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kushaldas at gmail.com Sat Sep 27 13:45:41 2008 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:15:41 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Rishi Setiya In-Reply-To: <860308.12912.qm@web7902.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <860308.12912.qm@web7902.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/27 rishi setiya : > Hi to All, > As a i m a new member of this fedora project i want to now how to > spread fedora in my region(Jabalpur, Madhya Pradesh)And how To increase the > intrest in Fedora .So Please replay this mail and spend me the specimen dvd > of fedora......... Welcome :) Can you enlighten us on what is a "specimen dvd of fedora" ? Also you should read http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/mailing-list-etiquette.pdf Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in From david at gnsa.us Sat Sep 27 19:42:09 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:42:09 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] RFC: National Educational Computing Conference Message-ID: So to follow along with Karsten's earlier CFP for the CUE conference on the West coast, I'd like to do the same for this conference on the East Coast. Deadline for submission is 10/8. This event occurs in Washington DC, so it'd be beneficial if those close to this event participate. http://center.uoregon.edu/ISTE/NECC2009/program/ There are the following categories: http://center.uoregon.edu/ISTE/NECC2009/program/categories.php Thoughts? Comments? From mspevack at redhat.com Sat Sep 27 20:13:32 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:13:32 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] open expo trip reports Message-ID: http://kitall.blogspot.com/2008/09/open-expo-winterthur-switzerland-2008.html http://spevack.livejournal.com/66777.html http://blog.sandro-mathys.ch/2008/09/27/openexpo-2008-zurich-in-winterthur-review/ From mspevack at redhat.com Sat Sep 27 20:18:32 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:18:32 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] are you waiting for a reimbursement? Message-ID: Hi Ambassadors, I know that there are several people who are waiting on me for reimbursements from September, including David Nalley, the Fedora-fr guys, the OpenExpo guys, and Dimitris from FUDCon. I want to let you know that we'll be getting that all sorted out in the next week and a half. Thanks for your patience -- the past few weeks have been spent getting the FUDCon bills paid, but once October 1 hits, I'll be able to pay back all the other Ambassadors and community members who are waiting. If you haven't already collected up your receipts, I recommend that you do so. It will make things so much easier! https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Budget Thanks, Max From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Sun Sep 28 03:14:36 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 08:44:36 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Rishi Setiya In-Reply-To: <860308.12912.qm@web7902.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <860308.12912.qm@web7902.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48DEF69C.2020906@gmail.com> Hi Rishi, Good to have you joining the project from Jabalpur. It would be nice to have you on the IRC channel #fedora-india (on irc.freenode.net) and subscribed to the fedora-india mailing list (which is in cc:) We could exchange ideas around how to grow the Fedora participant base from your region. ~sankarshan rishi setiya wrote: > Hi to All, > As a i m a new member of this fedora project i want to now > how to spread fedora in my region(Jabalpur, Madhya Pradesh)And how To > increase the intrest in Fedora .So Please replay this mail and spend me > the specimen dvd of fedora......... > Thanks In Advance for Reply > > > RISHI SETIYA > T/14 Hathital Colony, > Jabalpur (M.P.) > Pin-482001 -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Sep 28 07:51:10 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:51:10 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] open expo trip reports In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2008/9/27 Max Spevack : > http://kitall.blogspot.com/2008/09/open-expo-winterthur-switzerland-2008.html > > http://spevack.livejournal.com/66777.html > > http://blog.sandro-mathys.ch/2008/09/27/openexpo-2008-zurich-in-winterthur-review/ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Great reports! Regards Francesco Ugolini From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Sun Sep 28 12:22:05 2008 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:22:05 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1830 #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20080928142205.62c9d0f9@annifrid.mrtomlinux> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2008-09-28 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (28 sept.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'h?sitez pas ? le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent int?ressants. Thomas Canniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I need your help in spreading >> fedora if you can send me some CD's or DVD's then i can spread it in a my >> college friends which can spread in wide range of places this may increase >> many number of user of fedora. So if any body can help me. Pls Contact my >> detail are as follows. >> >> >> >> RISHI SETIYA >> Address:- >> T/14 Hathital Colony, >> Jabalpur (M.P.) >> India >> PIN:-482001 >> Email ID:- rishi_setiya09 at yahoo.co.in >> >> > > ------------------------------ > Download prohibited? No problem. CHATfrom any browser, without download. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Can you tell me how many DVD's you need? or it will be better if you can raise a request at http://vglug.info/get-fedora-dvd Regards, Nehal Dattani 2008/9/28 rishi setiya Hello friends, I m Rishi from india,Madhya Pradesh, Jabalpur?there are still lots of area where fedora has not spread in my region. I need your help in spreading fedora if you can send me some CD's or DVD's then i can spread it in a my college friends which can spread?in wide range of places this may increase many number of?user of fedora. So if any body?can help me. Pls Contact my detail are as follows. RISHI SETIYA Address:- T/14 Hathital Colony, Jabalpur (M.P.) India PIN:-482001 Email ID:- rishi_setiya09 at yahoo.co.in ??????????? ________________________________ Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From david at gnsa.us Mon Sep 29 02:54:07 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:54:07 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Self-Introduction: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Kam Salisbury wrote: > Hi, I'm Kam Salisbury. I live and work in Philadelphia Pennsylvania USA. > > > >>What other projects or writing have you worked on in the past? > > Several small articles and tips regarding using Linux to get real world > tasks accomplished. Some items are more suitable for other system > administrators or hobbiests. > > > >>What level and type of computer skills do you have? > > Over ten years experience supporting and using computer technology in > Windows, Novell and Linux environments. > > > >>What other skills do you have that might be applicable? User interface > design, other so-called soft skills (people skills), programming, etc. > > No published programs to claim fame to but definetly scripting capable - > shell, HTML/CSS, PHP, Java. As a network manager I am comfortable speaking > in front of groups. > > > >>What makes you an excellent match for the project? > > I want to help. > > > > > > Kam Salisbury > > kam at kamsalisbury.com > > FAF1751E fingerprint = DC3A 73C0 199D 0C29 BDCD 9D2A 8014 9957 FAF1 751E > > Hi Kam, Welcome. A couple of things I'll mention: The North American Ambassadors meet on Tuesday nights at 9pm EDT in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. At other times many of us hang out on #fedora-ambassador and #fedora-mktg You may also want to take a look at some of the NA specific pages in particular: Add your name to this page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Regions Check out the expectations here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica/Expectations There is an event in your state in the not too distant future - Central Pennsylvania Open Source Conference on October 19th. I know it's a bit away from Philly, but there are a number of people attending, and you may want to check it out. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/CPOSC/2008 Yaakov Nemoy is heading it up, so you may want to ping him about it. If there is something you need from us to get moving, please don't hesitate to ask. Thanks, David Nalley From nirmal.pathak at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 05:02:12 2008 From: nirmal.pathak at gmail.com (Nirmal Pathak) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:32:12 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. Message-ID: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, I've found interesting article written by some Fedora Fan. --snip-- Guess why? Not quality video drivers leave the machine with only some default drivers and that is bad because some users would like to play games or start some eye-candy things like Compiz Fusion. This is negative effect to the community and some users of the Fedora community leave Fedora in interest to other distros that have that drivers. --snip-- I too agree with above snip from article to certain extent. I wonder what Fedora project is upto taking above thing in consideration. --snip-- I am strong supporter of the ideals of the open source and really love Fedora. I notice some mismanagement and lack of cooperation between official and unofficial Fedora projects. Probably we all would benefit more if the official Fedora updates and the Livna updates were more synchronized. And update of the kernel does not leave the system without video drivers or other vital parts. In that case, more and more users will leave Fedora and migrate to other GNU/Linux distributions even if they are "evil" or have signed suspicious contracts with 3th party companies... --snip-- What you guys think about above snip from the Article?? Link to Article: http://spreadfedora.org/sf/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61&Itemid=54 Have Fun! -- Nirmal D Pathak. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was born free! No Gates and Windows can restrict my Freedom!! Enjoy Linux! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I wonder > what Fedora project is upto taking above thing in consideration. > > --snip-- > I am strong supporter of the ideals of the open source and really love > Fedora. I notice some mismanagement and lack of cooperation between > official and unofficial Fedora projects. Probably we all would benefit > more if the official Fedora updates and the Livna updates were more > synchronized. And update of the kernel does not leave the system > without video drivers or other vital parts. In that case, more and > more users will leave Fedora and migrate to other GNU/Linux > distributions even if they are "evil" or have signed suspicious > contracts with 3th party companies... > --snip-- > > What you guys think about above snip from the Article?? > > Link to Article: > http://spreadfedora.org/sf/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61&Itemid=54 > maybe to stick with FOSS, Fedora do not need to include the proprietary driver or codec in Distribution but can work with this vendor, if they have linux driver for it, to create a third party yum repositary and allow EU to choose during install-time to include it. Just my feel...... -- Best Regards, Jason http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jason_Benedict_Low VoIP = sip:jasonbenedict at fedoraproject.org ------ When i work nobody care. When i rest everybody stare. ------ From gvarisco at redhat.com Mon Sep 29 09:41:08 2008 From: gvarisco at redhat.com (Gianluca Varisco) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:41:08 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 Release Party in Milan - Budget Preview Message-ID: <48E0A2B4.5090200@redhat.com> Hi guys, I'm here to announce that we (Italian Fedora Ambassadors) will held the next release party (celebrating Fedora 10) somewhere in Milan (Italy). As Francesco Ugolini asked two weeks ago, we will completely follow the official 'disclaimer' posted here [1], searching for a free place and trying to limit as much as we can all the expenses. But.. (no, don't worry! ;-) ) I'd like to ask a little more budget (let's say a bit more than the 100$ received the previous year): 150-200$ would be enough to pay for snacks, drinks and some stickers/posters/brochures. We will distribute F9 / F10 Beta Live ISOs asking attendees for their USB Cards and burning some CD/DVDs. Let me know if you need further details in order to assign budget to this event. Many thanks. Best Regards, [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00375.html -- Gianluca Varisco, RHCE Intern - Web Engineering, Red Hat Italia From azneita at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 29 09:43:44 2008 From: azneita at fedoraproject.org (Heherson Pagcaliwagan) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:43:44 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] filipino mailing list Message-ID: <928156be0809290243i21ce652docd9ea2b6c78d3af0@mail.gmail.com> Guys, We're generating some interest in Fedora in the Philippines and I'm thinking that a mailing list for Filipino users/contributors would be a great way to spur on a community. I'm now fielding emails from our previous attendees and I think it's going to be more beneficial if a whole community would answer them. I'm steering clear of a yahoo/google group for "official" reasons. 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Cheers, -- Gianluca Varisco, RHCE Intern - Web Engineering, Red Hat Italia From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 29 09:49:20 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:49:20 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] filipino mailing list In-Reply-To: <928156be0809290243i21ce652docd9ea2b6c78d3af0@mail.gmail.com> References: <928156be0809290243i21ce652docd9ea2b6c78d3af0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/29 Heherson Pagcaliwagan : > Guys, > > We're generating some interest in Fedora in the Philippines and I'm thinking > that a mailing list for Filipino users/contributors would be a great way to > spur on a community. I'm now fielding emails from our previous attendees and > I think it's going to be more beneficial if a whole community would answer > them. You have to open a ticket in Infrastucture Trac Page with the reason and the administrative name and email. The link is https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ Best regards Francesco Ugolini From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 29 09:50:48 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:50:48 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 Release Party in Milan - Budget Preview In-Reply-To: <48E0A2B4.5090200@redhat.com> References: <48E0A2B4.5090200@redhat.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/29 Gianluca Varisco : > Hi guys, > > I'm here to announce that we (Italian Fedora Ambassadors) will held the next > release party (celebrating Fedora 10) somewhere in Milan (Italy). Thank you very much. For the other Release Events Owners: The deadline is tomorrow, please add the budget detail in your Release Event wiki page and send an email here. Regards Francesco Ugolini From azneita at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 29 10:13:28 2008 From: azneita at fedoraproject.org (Heherson Pagcaliwagan) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:13:28 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] filipino mailing list In-Reply-To: References: <928156be0809290243i21ce652docd9ea2b6c78d3af0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <928156be0809290313l73eded9pc619a6b8d16bcd08@mail.gmail.com> > You have to open a ticket in Infrastucture Trac Page with the reason > and the administrative name and email. > Did just that Francesco and many thanks for the quick reply. -- Heherson Pagcaliwagan http://project.azneita.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Mon, September 29, 2008 6:13 pm, Heherson Pagcaliwagan wrote: >> You have to open a ticket in Infrastucture Trac Page with the reason >> and the administrative name and email. >> > > Did just that Francesco and many thanks for the quick reply. > > -- > Heherson Pagcaliwagan > http://project.azneita.org > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 29 11:31:39 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:31:39 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Budget Preview for Manipur Fedora 10 Release Party and Install Fest 08 In-Reply-To: <7cb778c60809290321r296aac83v91a7149c9b5971ee@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60809290321r296aac83v91a7149c9b5971ee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/29 Rishikesh Sharma : > Hi All, > > My budget preview is attached with the mail. Please download and refer the > file for my Budget Preview for Manipur Fedora 10 Release party and Install > Fest 2008. My event is on December 7, 2008. For details on my event, please > visit https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseParty/F10/Manipur > > > Regards, > Rishikesh Sharma > Fedora Ambassador, Imphal-Manipur. (India) Thank you very much for this mail and for your work. BTW, for events after December 1st, we will assign the budget with the other Q4 events. Please everyone who has his/her Release Event event in Q4 (December-February), please add your event in fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents too, it will help us better addressing resource in the next quarter. Regards Francesco Ugolini From stickster at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 11:36:03 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:36:03 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Self-Introduction: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080929113603.GE12255@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 07:36:51PM -0400, Kam Salisbury wrote: > Hi, I'm Kam Salisbury. I live and work in Philadelphia Pennsylvania USA. > > >What other projects or writing have you worked on in the past? > > Several small articles and tips regarding using Linux to get real world > tasks accomplished. Some items are more suitable for other system > administrators or hobbiests. Fantastic, an experienced writer! Very happy to have you aboard, Kam. > >What level and type of computer skills do you have? > > Over ten years experience supporting and using computer technology in > Windows, Novell and Linux environments. Looks like you'll have no problem learning several toolsets, then. I'm sure you've already read from the introductory "join" information, but you can find us on IRC at irc.freenode.net, #fedora-docs. We'd love to talk to you there and get you engaged in some beneficial work. > >What other skills do you have that might be applicable? User interface > design, other so-called soft skills (people skills), programming, etc. > > No published programs to claim fame to but definetly scripting capable - > shell, HTML/CSS, PHP, Java. As a network manager I am comfortable speaking > in front of groups. That's marvelous! I love speaking in front of groups teaching skills like DocBook. We are supposed to have a FUDCon event this winter, probably happening in January in Boston. Do you think you might be able to attend? > >What makes you an excellent match for the project? > > I want to help. And that is, by far, the most important qualification. We can teach people practically anything except willingness to be a part of FOSS. Once you have that, everything else is just a short learning experience away! :-) Thanks for getting involved Kam, I look forward to talking to you on IRC at some point. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rishi_setiya09 at yahoo.co.in Mon Sep 29 13:02:09 2008 From: rishi_setiya09 at yahoo.co.in (rishi setiya) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:32:09 +0530 (IST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Want some fedora dvd's for spreading it in JABALPUR. Message-ID: <177853.53496.qm@web7902.mail.in.yahoo.com> hi to all, ??????????Myself rishi setiya as i am a member of fedoraproject. I want?40 to 50?dvd's & cd's to be spread in Jabalpur. I know some of friends of my engineering college (G.G.I.T.S, JAbalpur). They try their level best for fedora dvd. they download the image also from cybercafe but it is corrupted. So I want this dvd's and cd's to be spread in different colleges. If you want me to send this dvd's my postal address is as follows. And?also please inform be about this. thanks in advance for your reply. Rishi Setiya Ambassador (Jabalpur) Address:- T/14 Hathital Colony, ??????????????Jabalpur.(M.P.) ????????????? pin:-482001 Email :-rishi_setiya09 at yahoo.co.in???????????? Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerold at lugd.org Mon Sep 29 13:39:38 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:39:38 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Want some fedora dvd's for spreading it in JABALPUR. In-Reply-To: <177853.53496.qm@web7902.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <177853.53496.qm@web7902.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <41368.217.162.12.42.1222695578.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Hi, please contact Kushal Das (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KushalDas) who is surely willing to help you in any case of need. He's directly located in India. Hope he can help you Regards from Europe GeroldKa > hi to all, > ????????????????????Myself rishi setiya as i am a member of fedoraproject. > I want??40 to 50??dvd's & cd's to be spread in Jabalpur. I know some of > friends of my engineering college (G.G.I.T.S, JAbalpur). They try their > level best for fedora dvd. they download the image also from cybercafe but > it is corrupted. So I want this dvd's and cd's to be spread in different > colleges. If you want me to send this dvd's my postal address is as > follows. And??also please inform be about this. > thanks in advance for your reply. > > Rishi Setiya > Ambassador (Jabalpur) > Address:- T/14 Hathital Colony, > ????????????????????????????Jabalpur.(M.P.) > ?????????????????????????? pin:-482001 > Email :-rishi_setiya09 at yahoo.co.in???????????????????????? > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on > http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/-- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From avibrazil at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 13:58:42 2008 From: avibrazil at gmail.com (Avi Alkalay) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:58:42 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction: Avi Alkalay, former Linux Impact Team, IBM Brazil Message-ID: Hello I am on this list for many weeks now but never wrote anything. I spent my last 6 years working on the Linux team on IBM Brazil and LA. No I took another job still on IBM, but now related to industry solutions. And I miss the Linux community. I am still very involved with standardization initiatives as ODF. I represent IBM Brazil in our local National Body (ABNT) and worked for months in the "non-standardization" of OOXML. Hope to help local and global Linux initiatives. Regards, Avi -- http://avi.alkalay.net/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 13:08:36 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:38:36 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Want some fedora dvd's for spreading it in JABALPUR. In-Reply-To: <177853.53496.qm@web7902.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <177853.53496.qm@web7902.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48E0D354.1090608@gmail.com> Rishi, We did discuss this issue at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00494.html did we not ? A good way to introduce your friends to Fedora would be to take a smaller sub-set of media (as against the 40-50) and encourage your friends to pass the media around by producing more media (and perhaps become part of the Fedora FreeMedia Project) ~sankarshan rishi setiya wrote: > hi to all, > Myself rishi setiya as i am a member of fedoraproject. I > want 40 to 50 dvd's & cd's to be spread in Jabalpur. I know some of > friends of my engineering college (G.G.I.T.S, JAbalpur). They try their > level best for fedora dvd. they download the image also from cybercafe > but it is corrupted. So I want this dvd's and cd's to be spread in > different colleges. If you want me to send this dvd's my postal address > is as follows. And also please inform be about this. > thanks in advance for your reply. > > Rishi Setiya > Ambassador (Jabalpur) > Address:- T/14 Hathital Colony, > Jabalpur.(M.P.) > pin:-482001 > Email :-rishi_setiya09 at yahoo.co.in -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From nirmal.pathak at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 14:15:02 2008 From: nirmal.pathak at gmail.com (Nirmal Pathak) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:45:02 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Want some fedora dvd's for spreading it in JABALPUR. In-Reply-To: <48E0D354.1090608@gmail.com> References: <177853.53496.qm@web7902.mail.in.yahoo.com> <48E0D354.1090608@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7c9ab4ad0809290715q50c49a44s95f5d3cf96aff3d5@mail.gmail.com> Hi, On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 6:38 PM, "Sankarshan (????????)" < foss.mailinglists at gmail.com> wrote: > Rishi, > > We did discuss this issue at > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00494.html > did we not ? > > A good way to introduce your friends to Fedora would be to take a > smaller sub-set of media (as against the 40-50) and encourage your > friends to pass the media around by producing more media (and perhaps > become part of the Fedora FreeMedia Project) > > ~sankarshan > > rishi setiya wrote: > > hi to all, > > Myself rishi setiya as i am a member of fedoraproject. I > > want 40 to 50 dvd's & cd's to be spread in Jabalpur. I know some of > > friends of my engineering college (G.G.I.T.S, JAbalpur). They try their > > level best for fedora dvd. they download the image also from cybercafe > > but it is corrupted. So I want this dvd's and cd's to be spread in > > different colleges. If you want me to send this dvd's my postal address > > is as follows. And also please inform be about this. > > thanks in advance for your reply. > > > > Rishi Setiya > > Ambassador (Jabalpur) > > Address:- T/14 Hathital Colony, > > Jabalpur.(M.P.) > > pin:-482001 > > Email :-rishi_setiya09 at yahoo.co.in > I think you are already being offered to request for DVDs by Nehal Dattani with the link. Check the following thread if you have missed it. :) https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00498.html Have Fun! -- Nirmal D Pathak. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was born free! No Gates and Windows can restrict my Freedom!! Enjoy Linux! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 29 16:47:21 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:47:21 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora DVD's In-Reply-To: <240999550809290923k2801da41n865ac89f4439e1cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <240999550809290923k2801da41n865ac89f4439e1cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/29 Jay Bhatt : > Hi Friends. > > Im Jay and im trying to spred the fedora in some area's of gujarat/india > where fedora is not reached yet. > This distribution is widly base so ill be needing more then 200 DVD's cuz im > targeting more then 4 Collages with multiple students. > And i have also plan to prepare the documentation to distribute with CD's. > Im also planing to conduct a saminar in the collages. > It's a vary wide distribution so if one of you are interested in my this > effort then please contribute in this. > That's great. You may ask Susmit or Kushal (they are key ambassadors contacts in APAC) to get some DVDs (I don't know if those are available). If you are planning a seminar and you need resources (maybe to burn some DVDs on your own), please make it after December 1st, so you will be able to add your event in fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents, and be qualified, if there will be enought resources, for a sponsorship. Hoping I gave the answer you need Regards Francesco Ugolini From shambo.linux at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 17:20:48 2008 From: shambo.linux at gmail.com (Shambo Bose) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:50:48 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello The nvidia and ATI grahics drivers are freely available from their website . So, why can't we add them to yum repository. If there is any roblem we can add them to a secondary non-free yum repository. I have also faced some questions from fedora users in my locality that : why mp3 music and some video formats cannot be played out of the box ? Thanks. Shambo Bose -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nushio at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 17:33:50 2008 From: nushio at gmail.com (Juan M. Rodriguez) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:33:50 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/29 Shambo Bose > Hello > > The nvidia and ATI grahics drivers are freely available from their website > . > So, why can't we add them to yum repository. If there is any roblem we can > add them to a secondary non-free yum repository. > > I have also faced some questions from fedora users in my locality that : > why mp3 music and some video formats cannot be played out of the box ? > > > > > > Thanks. > > Shambo Bose > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Their drivers are freely available, yet they aren't open sourced, which is why they aren't included with Fedora. As for MP3? Its because of a patent issue. The MP3 Codec *may* not be out of the box, but as soon as you play a file, you are prompted to download it from Codeina and a few minutes later, you're playing MP3s. (The downside is that this requires an internet connection). Just my 2c. -- Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shambo.linux at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 17:42:10 2008 From: shambo.linux at gmail.com (Shambo Bose) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:12:10 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> Message-ID: hello We can always create a secondary non free repository which will contain all the free drivers and packages[ which is not open source] and the mp3 part is ok... they are playing mp3 in that way. Thanks. Shambo Bose -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nushio at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 17:55:42 2008 From: nushio at gmail.com (Juan M. Rodriguez) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:55:42 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/29 Shambo Bose > hello > > We can always create a secondary non free repository which will contain all > the free drivers and packages[ which is not open source] > and the mp3 part is ok... they are playing mp3 in that way. > > > Thanks. > > > Shambo Bose > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > "We can always create a secondary non free repository" We already have one, its called Livna[1], they provide packages for both ATI and Nvidia cards that are packaged for Fedora, which would mean no conflicts with existing drivers. They are sometimes hours-to-days behind kernel updates (Specifically security kernel updates) which leaves users with dependency conflicts (Either update the kernel and lose the drivers, or stay insecure for some time) [1] http://rpm.livna.org Regards -- Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shambo.linux at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 18:12:17 2008 From: shambo.linux at gmail.com (Shambo Bose) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:42:17 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/29 Juan M. Rodriguez > > > 2008/9/29 Shambo Bose > >> hello >> >> We can always create a secondary non free repository which will contain >> all the free drivers and packages[ which is not open source] >> and the mp3 part is ok... they are playing mp3 in that way. >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> Shambo Bose >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > "We can always create a secondary non free repository" > > We already have one, its called Livna[1], they provide packages for both > ATI and Nvidia cards that are packaged for Fedora, which would mean no > conflicts with existing drivers. They are sometimes hours-to-days behind > kernel updates (Specifically security kernel updates) which leaves users > with dependency conflicts (Either update the kernel and lose the drivers, or > stay insecure for some time) > > [1] http://rpm.livna.org > > Regards > -- > Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno > Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos > Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Hello The livna graphics drivers does not support 3D hardware Acceleration . Is livna a official fedora repository? regards, Shambo Bose -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nushio at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 18:17:15 2008 From: nushio at gmail.com (Juan M. Rodriguez) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:17:15 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2008/9/29 Shambo Bose > > > 2008/9/29 Juan M. Rodriguez > >> >> >> 2008/9/29 Shambo Bose >> >>> hello >>> >>> We can always create a secondary non free repository which will contain >>> all the free drivers and packages[ which is not open source] >>> and the mp3 part is ok... they are playing mp3 in that way. >>> >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> Shambo Bose >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> "We can always create a secondary non free repository" >> >> We already have one, its called Livna[1], they provide packages for both >> ATI and Nvidia cards that are packaged for Fedora, which would mean no >> conflicts with existing drivers. They are sometimes hours-to-days behind >> kernel updates (Specifically security kernel updates) which leaves users >> with dependency conflicts (Either update the kernel and lose the drivers, or >> stay insecure for some time) >> >> [1] http://rpm.livna.org >> >> Regards >> -- >> Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno >> Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos >> Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> Hello > > The livna graphics drivers does not support 3D hardware Acceleration . Is > livna a official fedora repository? > > regards, > Shambo Bose > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Livna is by no means an official Fedora repository, it is a third-party one. I'm not aware of the 3D-acceleration support on the drivers.. Regards, -- Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shambo.linux at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 18:27:48 2008 From: shambo.linux at gmail.com (Shambo Bose) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:57:48 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> Message-ID: We must find a way to overcome this barrier as it might hurt the fedoraproject heavily in the future. regards, Shambo Bose -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lajjr at yahoo.com Mon Sep 29 18:38:33 2008 From: lajjr at yahoo.com (Leo Jackson) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:38:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <648289.59054.qm@web84308.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Livna is not official fedora repository. You have to add it to the list of sources. I as a fedora user looked all over to find drivers that I just couldn't find through fedora to find on livna, but some drivers just are not created as of yet. I as a company reversed alot of drivers, and made drivers for hardware it is not easy companies like ATI, NVIDIA are not going to give source code up. Most drivers create for Linux are created by reverse engineering. Leo Albert Jackson Jr Owner Head Programmer LJ's Electronics and Software --- On Mon, 9/29/08, Shambo Bose wrote: > From: Shambo Bose > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 2:12 PM > 2008/9/29 Juan M. Rodriguez > > > > > > > 2008/9/29 Shambo Bose > > > >> hello > >> > >> We can always create a secondary non free > repository which will contain > >> all the free drivers and packages[ which is not > open source] > >> and the mp3 part is ok... they are playing mp3 in > that way. > >> > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> > >> Shambo Bose > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > >> > > "We can always create a secondary non free > repository" > > > > We already have one, its called Livna[1], they provide > packages for both > > ATI and Nvidia cards that are packaged for Fedora, > which would mean no > > conflicts with existing drivers. They are sometimes > hours-to-days behind > > kernel updates (Specifically security kernel updates) > which leaves users > > with dependency conflicts (Either update the kernel > and lose the drivers, or > > stay insecure for some time) > > > > [1] http://rpm.livna.org > > > > Regards > > -- > > Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno > > Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos > > Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > Hello > > The livna graphics drivers does not support 3D hardware > Acceleration . Is > livna a official fedora repository? > > regards, > Shambo Bose > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From wizardforhire at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 18:40:15 2008 From: wizardforhire at gmail.com (Robert Chambers) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:40:15 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3e0242e30809291140l66c47893y5f705c7e519a3190@mail.gmail.com> Hello I would agree with Shambo that Fedora needs more Nvidia and ATI drivers. Relying on other repositories like rpm.livna.org to maintain kernal compliant drivers is a problem we should easily overcome. I have had problems trying to compile my own. Thanks Robert Chambers 2008/9/29 Shambo Bose > Hello > > The nvidia and ATI grahics drivers are freely available from their website > . > So, why can't we add them to yum repository. If there is any roblem we can > add them to a secondary non-free yum repository. > > I have also faced some questions from fedora users in my locality that : > why mp3 music and some video formats cannot be played out of the box ? > > > > > > Thanks. > > Shambo Bose > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Erma Bombeck - "Never have more children than you have car windows." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulds at bu.edu Mon Sep 29 18:47:44 2008 From: paulds at bu.edu (Paul Stauffer) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:47:44 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: <3e0242e30809291140l66c47893y5f705c7e519a3190@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> <3e0242e30809291140l66c47893y5f705c7e519a3190@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080929184744.GC24631@cs.bu.edu> This discussion is pointless and repetitive. It *can't* happen, and it *shouldn't* happen; therefore it *won't* happen. If after all these years and all the explanations and discussions you still don't understand, there's not much more we can do. Go read this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems Please stop replying to this thread with more opinions. If you don't like the current situations, preach to users to use alternate hardware, or work to change the hardware manufacturers' behaviors, or lobby to change US intellectual property laws. Because those are the only solutions to this problem. - Paul On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 01:40:15PM -0500, Robert Chambers wrote: > Hello > > I would agree with Shambo that Fedora needs more Nvidia and ATI drivers. > Relying on other repositories like rpm.livna.org to maintain kernal > compliant drivers is a problem we should easily overcome. I have had > problems trying to compile my own. > > Thanks > Robert Chambers > > 2008/9/29 Shambo Bose > > > Hello > > > > The nvidia and ATI grahics drivers are freely available from their website > > . > > So, why can't we add them to yum repository. If there is any roblem we can > > add them to a secondary non-free yum repository. > > > > I have also faced some questions from fedora users in my locality that : > > why mp3 music and some video formats cannot be played out of the box ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > Shambo Bose > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > -- > > Erma Bombeck - "Never have more children than you have car windows." > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Paul Stauffer Manager of Research Computing Computer Science Department Boston University From avibrazil at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 19:34:17 2008 From: avibrazil at gmail.com (Avi Alkalay) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:34:17 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> Message-ID: As far as I know, Livna policy is to only include open source software. It is a repo for patent-problematic, but yet open source software. So MPEG-4, MP3, AAC, H.264, Xvid, MPlayer etc stuff -- that all has open source implementations -- are available on Livna, and this is enough for playing virtually all multimedia content you can get. Also, the nVidia and ATI drivers at Livna are the open source ones -- not the original, more feature rich, more powerful, 3D capable, binary ones. I believe there is also a license problem when you download the original binary drivers, repackage them and put them someplace else for downloading. They are not freely distributable, I think. So if you repackage these binary drivers you are violating their licence for distribution. What I think Livna (or other repo) could do is what the JPackage project does for a long time: provide nosrc.rpm packages. These are only the source RPM without the license-problematic stuff. From the user perspective, he'll have to download the nosrc.rpm file plus the ZIP file from ATI/nVidia web site and issue one simple rpmbuild command to get the installable RPM. Altought I understand the political and religious guidelines of the Fedora project, I still believe this is a huge problem that should be discussed and fixed somehow. So in this point, I don't agree with Paul Stauffer in his previous e-mail. Regards, Avi 2008/9/29 Shambo Bose > > > 2008/9/29 Juan M. Rodriguez > >> >> >> 2008/9/29 Shambo Bose >> >>> hello >>> >>> We can always create a secondary non free repository which will contain >>> all the free drivers and packages[ which is not open source] >>> and the mp3 part is ok... they are playing mp3 in that way. >>> >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> Shambo Bose >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> "We can always create a secondary non free repository" >> >> We already have one, its called Livna[1], they provide packages for both >> ATI and Nvidia cards that are packaged for Fedora, which would mean no >> conflicts with existing drivers. They are sometimes hours-to-days behind >> kernel updates (Specifically security kernel updates) which leaves users >> with dependency conflicts (Either update the kernel and lose the drivers, or >> stay insecure for some time) >> >> [1] http://rpm.livna.org >> >> Regards >> -- >> Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno >> Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos >> Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> Hello > > The livna graphics drivers does not support 3D hardware Acceleration . Is > livna a official fedora repository? > > regards, > Shambo Bose > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- http://avi.alkalay.net/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From loupgaroublond at gmail.com Mon Sep 29 19:57:53 2008 From: loupgaroublond at gmail.com (Yaakov Nemoy) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:57:53 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f692fec0809291257u70b84e52hac078b9eb0af4ee9@mail.gmail.com> 2008/9/29 Juan M. Rodriguez : > "We can always create a secondary non free repository" > > We already have one, its called Livna[1], they provide packages for both ATI > and Nvidia cards that are packaged for Fedora, which would mean no conflicts > with existing drivers. They are sometimes hours-to-days behind kernel > updates (Specifically security kernel updates) which leaves users with > dependency conflicts (Either update the kernel and lose the drivers, or stay > insecure for some time) This is false too. There are special modules in livna called 'akmods' which behave like kmods, but can be recompiled on demand. I will not openly recommend suggesting to users to use livna, nor will I tell them that the best practice is to install both the kmods and akmods. I will not tell them that their computer will then have the binary drivers installed, and when livna does not update the drivers, it will recompile them on its own. I will not even go so far to tell them that they may need to reboot their computer twice when using the nvidia drivers. But a few good hints, and they usually figure it out themselves. ;). -Yaakov From paulds at bu.edu Mon Sep 29 20:05:34 2008 From: paulds at bu.edu (Paul Stauffer) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:05:34 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080929200534.GA19971@cs.bu.edu> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 04:34:17PM -0300, Avi Alkalay wrote: > Also, the nVidia and ATI drivers at Livna are the open source ones -- not > the original, more feature rich, more powerful, 3D capable, binary ones. I No. They are still the proprietary drivers. Redistribution is not the issue with them; their license is the problem. Fedora won't distribute them because they are not available under an open source license. And because their licenses are incompatible with the GPL, they violate the Linux kernel license, and therefore Fedora *cannot* redistribute them. > What I think Livna (or other repo) could do is what the JPackage project > does for a long time: provide nosrc.rpm packages. > These are only the source RPM without the license-problematic stuff. From This is off-topic for a Fedora mailing list. If you want to debate what Livna should be doing, take it to Livna. Fedora has no relationship with nor responsibility for Livna or any other 3rd party repository. > Altought I understand the political and religious guidelines of the Fedora > project, I still believe this is a huge problem that should be discussed > and fixed somehow. So in this point, I don't agree with Paul Stauffer in > his previous e-mail. You are right that it is a huge problem. You are wrong if you think this is simply a political/religious problem; it is a LEGAL problem. And you are wrong if you think that discussing this (AGAIN!) is the solution. The problem and the solutions are already well known by everyone involved: change the manufacturers or change the law. There is nothing else we can do. Repeating this discussion every other month is a waste of everyone's time. Again, I recommend that you read this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems If anything on there is unclear, please feel free to ask for a more detailed explanation. - Paul -- Paul Stauffer Manager of Research Computing Computer Science Department Boston University From david at gnsa.us Mon Sep 29 20:09:38 2008 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:09:38 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> Message-ID: Honestly it doesn't matter whether you agree or not. Fedora is tied to Red Hat, Red Hat isn't going to expose itself to liability by including non-free codecs. Let's not forget that Red Hat own 80% of the commercial Linux market, and contributes a ton to important projects like the Linux kernel, X.org and Gnome, and as such is a HUGE target. And that makes the penalty for securing 3d acceleration on a video card look way unbalanced. More importantly one of Fedora's founding principles is freedom. Part of that is open source - if you don't like Fedora's stance on open source software there are other distributions who don't take as hard a stance. Part of that is freedom to redistribute - yes Fedora could get a license to redistribute (if Fedora didn't care about open source software) and they could redistribute some binary drivers from ATI or Nvidia - but then downstream distributions couldn't do that legally - again there are other distributions that don't take as firm a stance - but Fedora does. Fedora doesn't take its stance on freedom out of some masochistic tendencies. Actually Fedora understands and believes that Free/Libre Open Source Software is the way to go. Fedora understands that you don't become more free by pushing non-free software into the distribution. Fedora has tremendous leverage power relatively speaking because they won't package non-free software. So when the likes of Yahoo want something like Zimbra in Fedora - they bring their licensing into compliance. When Mozilla wants to push a EULA on end users, Fedora has a lot more standing to object. While I rarely suggest that people would be happier with other distributions I think it may be true in this instance. Paul is essentially correct- You either have to convince the video card manufacturers to open source their drivers or at least release the specs, OR you have to write them. Nouveau is doing this, if it's so important an issue I hope that you are supporting them and actively involved in their project. On the MP3 and other codec front - you'd essentially need to convince legislators that the patent laws need to be rewritten. Please stop asking for Fedora to change - you'd essentially have to rid Fedora of Red Hat - populate the board with people who don't care about Fedora's stance on freedom, and hope that you don't get Fedora sued in the process. As an ambassador I'd expect that all of you understand why Fedora has taken it's stance on freedom and why it's important not to compromise, and not call to uproot the very foundation that fedora is built on. > As far as I know, Livna policy is to only include open source software. It > is a repo for patent-problematic, but yet open source software. So MPEG-4, > MP3, AAC, H.264, Xvid, MPlayer etc stuff -- that all has open source > implementations -- are available on Livna, and this is enough for playing > virtually all multimedia content you can get. > > Also, the nVidia and ATI drivers at Livna are the open source ones -- not > the original, more feature rich, more powerful, 3D capable, binary ones. > I believe there is also a license problem when you download the original > binary drivers, repackage them and put them someplace else for downloading. > They are not freely distributable, I think. So if you repackage these binary > drivers you are violating their licence for distribution. > > What I think Livna (or other repo) could do is what the JPackage project > does for a long time: provide nosrc.rpm packages. > These are only the source RPM without the license-problematic stuff. From > the user perspective, he'll have to download the nosrc.rpm file plus the ZIP > file from ATI/nVidia web site and issue one simple rpmbuild command to get > the installable RPM. > > Altought I understand the political and religious guidelines of the Fedora > project, I still believe this is a huge problem that should be discussed and > fixed somehow. So in this point, I don't agree with Paul Stauffer in his > previous e-mail. > > Regards, > Avi > > 2008/9/29 Shambo Bose >> >> >> 2008/9/29 Juan M. Rodriguez >>> >>> >>> 2008/9/29 Shambo Bose >>>> >>>> hello >>>> >>>> We can always create a secondary non free repository which will contain >>>> all the free drivers and packages[ which is not open source] >>>> and the mp3 part is ok... they are playing mp3 in that way. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> Shambo Bose >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>> >>> >>> "We can always create a secondary non free repository" >>> >>> We already have one, its called Livna[1], they provide packages for both >>> ATI and Nvidia cards that are packaged for Fedora, which would mean no >>> conflicts with existing drivers. They are sometimes hours-to-days behind >>> kernel updates (Specifically security kernel updates) which leaves users >>> with dependency conflicts (Either update the kernel and lose the drivers, or >>> stay insecure for some time) >>> >>> [1] http://rpm.livna.org >>> >>> Regards >>> -- >>> Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno >>> Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos >>> Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >> Hello >> >> The livna graphics drivers does not support 3D hardware Acceleration . Is >> livna a official fedora repository? >> >> regards, >> Shambo Bose >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > > -- > http://avi.alkalay.net/blog > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 29 23:24:39 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:54:39 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction: Avi Alkalay, former Linux Impact Team, IBM Brazil In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48E163B7.3020203@fedoraproject.org> Avi Alkalay wrote: > Hello > > I am on this list for many weeks now but never wrote anything. > > I spent my last 6 years working on the Linux team on IBM Brazil and LA. > No I took another job still on IBM, but now related to industry > solutions. And I miss the Linux community. > > I am still very involved with standardization initiatives as ODF. I > represent IBM Brazil in our local National Body (ABNT) and worked for > months in the "non-standardization" of OOXML. > > Hope to help local and global Linux initiatives. Welcome. Glad to have you here. Rahul From lucas at cefetce.br Tue Sep 30 00:22:49 2008 From: lucas at cefetce.br (Lucas - Linux Sys. Admin (CEFETCE/UAB)) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:22:49 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction: Avi Alkalay, former Linux Impact Team, IBM Brazil In-Reply-To: <48E163B7.3020203@fedoraproject.org> References: <48E163B7.3020203@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Wellcome, dude :) On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Avi Alkalay wrote: > >> Hello >> >> I am on this list for many weeks now but never wrote anything. >> >> I spent my last 6 years working on the Linux team on IBM Brazil and LA. >> No I took another job still on IBM, but now related to industry solutions. >> And I miss the Linux community. >> >> I am still very involved with standardization initiatives as ODF. I >> represent IBM Brazil in our local National Body (ABNT) and worked for months >> in the "non-standardization" of OOXML. >> >> Hope to help local and global Linux initiatives. >> > > Welcome. 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URL: From harish.pillay at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 00:55:50 2008 From: harish.pillay at gmail.com (Harish Pillay) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:55:50 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction: Avi Alkalay, former Linux Impact Team, IBM Brazil In-Reply-To: <48E163B7.3020203@fedoraproject.org> References: <48E163B7.3020203@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Avi - > I am on this list for many weeks now but never wrote anything. > > I spent my last 6 years working on the Linux team on IBM Brazil and LA. > No I took another job still on IBM, but now related to industry solutions. > And I miss the Linux community. > > I am still very involved with standardization initiatives as ODF. I > represent IBM Brazil in our local National Body (ABNT) and worked for months > in the "non-standardization" of OOXML. Good to see you on the list. BTW, did you attend the BRM in Geneva earlier this year? -- Harish Pillay h.pillay at ieee.org gpg id: 746809E3 fingerprint: F7F5 5CCD 25B9 FC25 303E 3DA2 0F80 27DB 7468 09E3 From avi at alkalay.net Tue Sep 30 03:58:10 2008 From: avi at alkalay.net (Avi Alkalay) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:58:10 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction: Avi Alkalay, former Linux Impact Team, IBM Brazil In-Reply-To: References: <48E163B7.3020203@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Harish, no, not me. But Jomar and other colleagues from Brazil attended. I almost went to Geneva. ISO let only 3 reps from Brazil. We asked for 6 positions. If it allowed 6, I should be going. Anyway, I worked very closely to the folks that went there. Did you go ? Regards, Avi On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Harish Pillay wrote: > Avi - > > > I am on this list for many weeks now but never wrote anything. > > > > I spent my last 6 years working on the Linux team on IBM Brazil and LA. > > No I took another job still on IBM, but now related to industry > solutions. > > And I miss the Linux community. > > > > I am still very involved with standardization initiatives as ODF. I > > represent IBM Brazil in our local National Body (ABNT) and worked for > months > > in the "non-standardization" of OOXML. > > Good to see you on the list. BTW, did you attend the BRM in Geneva > earlier this year? > > -- > Harish Pillay h.pillay at ieee.org gpg id: 746809E3 > fingerprint: F7F5 5CCD 25B9 FC25 303E 3DA2 0F80 27DB 7468 09E3 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- http://avi.alkalay.net/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From avibrazil at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 04:03:17 2008 From: avibrazil at gmail.com (Avi Alkalay) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:03:17 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> Message-ID: I don't think Fedora must change. I like its principles the way they are. I just think the community should create easy to use repos to distribute these closed source software. I also think that is quite violent to ask users to stop asking about these proprietary SW. There are no viable alternatives right now. If somebody asks for MS Office, I would suggest them to use OOo because it is viable. But as far as I know, the open source video drivers for nVidia are not very viable. For those, the proprietary is the mainstream now, and the open source version is the promise for the future. In a while, I hope, the proprietary ones will be the secondary option. Regards, Avi On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 5:09 PM, David Nalley wrote: > Honestly it doesn't matter whether you agree or not. > Fedora is tied to Red Hat, Red Hat isn't going to expose itself to > liability by including non-free codecs. Let's not forget that Red Hat > own 80% of the commercial Linux market, and contributes a ton to > important projects like the Linux kernel, X.org and Gnome, and as such > is a HUGE target. And that makes the penalty for securing 3d > acceleration on a video card look way unbalanced. > > More importantly one of Fedora's founding principles is freedom. Part > of that is open source - if you don't like Fedora's stance on open > source software there are other distributions who don't take as hard a > stance. Part of that is freedom to redistribute - yes Fedora could get > a license to redistribute (if Fedora didn't care about open source > software) and they could redistribute some binary drivers from ATI or > Nvidia - but then downstream distributions couldn't do that legally - > again there are other distributions that don't take as firm a stance - > but Fedora does. > > Fedora doesn't take its stance on freedom out of some masochistic > tendencies. Actually Fedora understands and believes that Free/Libre > Open Source Software is the way to go. Fedora understands that you > don't become more free by pushing non-free software into the > distribution. Fedora has tremendous leverage power relatively speaking > because they won't package non-free software. So when the likes of > Yahoo want something like Zimbra in Fedora - they bring their > licensing into compliance. When Mozilla wants to push a EULA on end > users, Fedora has a lot more standing to object. > > While I rarely suggest that people would be happier with other > distributions I think it may be true in this instance. > > Paul is essentially correct- > > You either have to convince the video card manufacturers to open > source their drivers or at least release the specs, OR you have to > write them. Nouveau is doing this, if it's so important an issue I > hope that you are supporting them and actively involved in their > project. > > On the MP3 and other codec front - you'd essentially need to convince > legislators that the patent laws need to be rewritten. > > Please stop asking for Fedora to change - you'd essentially have to > rid Fedora of Red Hat - populate the board with people who don't care > about Fedora's stance on freedom, and hope that you don't get Fedora > sued in the process. As an ambassador I'd expect that all of you > understand why Fedora has taken it's stance on freedom and why it's > important not to compromise, and not call to uproot the very > foundation that fedora is built on. > > > > > > > As far as I know, Livna policy is to only include open source software. > It > > is a repo for patent-problematic, but yet open source software. So > MPEG-4, > > MP3, AAC, H.264, Xvid, MPlayer etc stuff -- that all has open source > > implementations -- are available on Livna, and this is enough for playing > > virtually all multimedia content you can get. > > > > Also, the nVidia and ATI drivers at Livna are the open source ones -- not > > the original, more feature rich, more powerful, 3D capable, binary ones. > > I believe there is also a license problem when you download the original > > binary drivers, repackage them and put them someplace else for > downloading. > > They are not freely distributable, I think. So if you repackage these > binary > > drivers you are violating their licence for distribution. > > > > What I think Livna (or other repo) could do is what the JPackage project > > does for a long time: provide nosrc.rpm packages. > > These are only the source RPM without the license-problematic stuff. From > > the user perspective, he'll have to download the nosrc.rpm file plus the > ZIP > > file from ATI/nVidia web site and issue one simple rpmbuild command to > get > > the installable RPM. > > > > Altought I understand the political and religious guidelines of the > Fedora > > project, I still believe this is a huge problem that should be discussed > and > > fixed somehow. So in this point, I don't agree with Paul Stauffer in his > > previous e-mail. > > > > Regards, > > Avi > > > > 2008/9/29 Shambo Bose > >> > >> > >> 2008/9/29 Juan M. Rodriguez > >>> > >>> > >>> 2008/9/29 Shambo Bose > >>>> > >>>> hello > >>>> > >>>> We can always create a secondary non free repository which will > contain > >>>> all the free drivers and packages[ which is not open source] > >>>> and the mp3 part is ok... they are playing mp3 in that way. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thanks. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Shambo Bose > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >>>> > >>> > >>> "We can always create a secondary non free repository" > >>> > >>> We already have one, its called Livna[1], they provide packages for > both > >>> ATI and Nvidia cards that are packaged for Fedora, which would mean no > >>> conflicts with existing drivers. They are sometimes hours-to-days > behind > >>> kernel updates (Specifically security kernel updates) which leaves > users > >>> with dependency conflicts (Either update the kernel and lose the > drivers, or > >>> stay insecure for some time) > >>> > >>> [1] http://rpm.livna.org > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> -- > >>> Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno > >>> Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos > >>> Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >>> > >> Hello > >> > >> The livna graphics drivers does not support 3D hardware Acceleration . > Is > >> livna a official fedora repository? > >> > >> regards, > >> Shambo Bose > >> > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > http://avi.alkalay.net/blog > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- http://avi.alkalay.net/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When i rest everybody stare. ------ From coldfire.hx at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 05:48:49 2008 From: coldfire.hx at gmail.com (Jay Bhatt) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:18:49 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora DVD's In-Reply-To: References: <240999550809290923k2801da41n865ac89f4439e1cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <240999550809292248k7dcbaboec76235c1eb30cd6@mail.gmail.com> Thank You For your reply. Im still trying to get as many DVD's as i can and im sure that im going to able to spread fedora at a large number of places. Jay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 06:07:05 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:37:05 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora DVD's In-Reply-To: <240999550809290923k2801da41n865ac89f4439e1cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <240999550809290923k2801da41n865ac89f4439e1cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48E1C209.5020203@gmail.com> Jay Bhatt wrote: > Im Jay and im trying to spred the fedora in some area's of > gujarat/india where fedora is not reached yet. Nilesh has also been trying to reach out to a larger prospect of Fedora users. It would be good if you coordinate and strengthen the FreeMedia Program in Gujarat. > This distribution is widly base so ill be needing more then 200 DVD's > cuz im targeting more then 4 Collages with multiple students. If you are targeting colleges, it is best to hold some kind of an install fest at a college since that gets a number of students together. Your returns would be far better compared to giving out 200 DVDs. In fact, you can try out a liveusb-station at a college and show students how to create Live USBs. That would end up serving the purpose of getting them involved rather than merely having them receive a DVD. > And i have also plan to prepare the documentation to distribute with > CD's. Im also planing to conduct a saminar in the collages. > It's a vary wide distribution so if one of you are interested in my this > effort then please contribute in this. I think it would be a nice idea for you to hop on to #fedora-india on irc.freenode.net one of these days. It is as good a place as any to talk about plans and break them down into small tasks which can then be measured for impact and result. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 06:08:52 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:38:52 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48E1C274.7080006@gmail.com> Shambo Bose wrote: > I have also faced some questions from fedora users in my locality that : > why mp3 music and some video formats cannot be played out of the box ? And how did you respond to such questions ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From harish.pillay at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 06:10:53 2008 From: harish.pillay at gmail.com (Harish Pillay) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:10:53 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction: Avi Alkalay, former Linux Impact Team, IBM Brazil In-Reply-To: References: <48E163B7.3020203@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: > Harish, no, not me. But Jomar and other colleagues from Brazil attended. > I almost went to Geneva. ISO let only 3 reps from Brazil. We asked for 6 > positions. If it allowed 6, I should be going. > > Anyway, I worked very closely to the folks that went there. > > Did you go ? Alas, I did not. Singapore decided not to send anyone! Harish From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 06:14:39 2008 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:44:39 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora DVD's In-Reply-To: <240999550809290923k2801da41n865ac89f4439e1cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <240999550809290923k2801da41n865ac89f4439e1cf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Hi Friends. > > Im Jay and im trying to spred the fedora in some area's of gujarat/india where fedora is not reached yet. Thanks :) > This distribution is widly base so ill be needing more then 200 DVD's cuz im targeting more then 4 Collages with multiple students. > And i have also plan to prepare the documentation to distribute with CD's. Im also planing to conduct a saminar in the collages. > It's a vary wide distribution so if one of you are interested in my this effort then please >contribute in this. We will do our best but a bit more details on this please? What exactly is the plan? Holding talks ? Workshops? Forming LUGs? Or something else? > > > P.S You can reply me or mail me for any further details. > > > > > Thanking You > Jay Bhatt. > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 06:15:21 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:45:21 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48E1C3F9.8030604@gmail.com> Shambo Bose wrote: > We must find a way to overcome this barrier as it might hurt the > fedoraproject heavily in the future. [i] which barrier [ii] what do you think can be done [iii] how does it hurt currently -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From oglesbyzm at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 06:22:20 2008 From: oglesbyzm at gmail.com (Zachary Oglesby) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:22:20 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: <48E1C274.7080006@gmail.com> References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> <48E1C274.7080006@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48E1C59C.9070807@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sankarshan (????????) wrote: > Shambo Bose wrote: > >> I have also faced some questions from fedora users in my locality that : >> why mp3 music and some video formats cannot be played out of the box ? > > And how did you respond to such questions ? > Tell them the importance of free software and have them read about it on the GNU.org. Explain why patents are holding back software development and help them to understand why Fedora holds freedom so high. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjhxZkACgkQIq4vXBN495+3bACfY/KR0efs+VfxuakAwXx87Os7 C5sAoIVOoLr7HV9GS53n5VCWQ2lmIMyi =Eqh1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 06:24:05 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:54:05 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: <48E1C59C.9070807@gmail.com> References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> <48E1C274.7080006@gmail.com> <48E1C59C.9070807@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48E1C605.5070100@gmail.com> Zachary Oglesby wrote: > Sankarshan (????????) wrote: >> Shambo Bose wrote: > >>> I have also faced some questions from fedora users in my locality that : >>> why mp3 music and some video formats cannot be played out of the box ? >> And how did you respond to such questions ? > > Tell them the importance of free software and have them read about it on > the GNU.org. Explain why patents are holding back software development > and help them to understand why Fedora holds freedom so high. Ah yes, I was more curious as to how Shambo responds to this questions - the notion being to figure out whether the end users are comprehending such concepts. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From frankly3d at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 08:59:54 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:59:54 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: <20080929184744.GC24631@cs.bu.edu> References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> <3e0242e30809291140l66c47893y5f705c7e519a3190@mail.gmail.com> <20080929184744.GC24631@cs.bu.edu> Message-ID: <1222765194.2427.17.camel@frank-01> Newbie here: Newish to linux\Fedora (came in on F8) A blow in you might say. (A) Fedora's policy is here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems There are also mailing list guidelines here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Both camps seem to have missed the second link. Now the formalities are out of the way. (B) 1: Fedora is free to use as a personal choice, there's no contract. 2: "We aren't competing with other distributions." https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/AnswerQuestions I love Fedora for the choice it has given me. Up to that point all I knew was a North American OS, non-free in either meaning. In all sincerity if Fedora does not suit, when someone comes to you with a question, refer to (B). Frank -- gpg id EB547226 Revoked Forgot Password :( aMSN: Frankly3D http://www.frankly3d.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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[ iii] Basic desktop users are switching to pirated closed source software. And I think piracy not only hurts the proprietors of closed source software but also open source software projects as they get the pirated software for free. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shambo.linux at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 10:46:35 2008 From: shambo.linux at gmail.com (Shambo Bose) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:16:35 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: <48E1C605.5070100@gmail.com> References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> <48E1C274.7080006@gmail.com> <48E1C59C.9070807@gmail.com> <48E1C605.5070100@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:54 AM, "Sankarshan (????????)" < foss.mailinglists at gmail.com> wrote: > Zachary Oglesby wrote: > > Sankarshan (????????) wrote: > >> Shambo Bose wrote: > > > >>> I have also faced some questions from fedora users in my locality that > : > >>> why mp3 music and some video formats cannot be played out of the box ? > >> And how did you respond to such questions ? > > > > Tell them the importance of free software and have them read about it on > > the GNU.org. Explain why patents are holding back software development > > and help them to understand why Fedora holds freedom so high. > > Ah yes, I was more curious as to how Shambo responds to this questions - > the notion being to figure out whether the end users are comprehending > such concepts. > > -- > > http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published > http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science > http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Hi, I am currently telling users either convert their videos and other media format to ogg or I am recommending them to use the package which Movie player recommends to use . Thank You. your sincerely, Shambo Bose -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 30 11:13:21 2008 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:13:21 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Release Events Budget Preview - Last Call Message-ID: This is the last call for Release Events Owners to post their own budget preview in order to be qualified to get some resources. Actually I see only 2 budget preview in Fedora Ambassadors List. If you have sent something directly to FAmSCo, please resend it in Ambassadors List and, optionally, to me. If you have added your preview in the details on your Release Event wiki page, please let me know. Thank you for your precious collaboration and for your work Best regards Francesco Ugolini From romal at gmx.de Tue Sep 30 12:01:51 2008 From: romal at gmx.de (Robert M. Albrecht) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:01:51 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Cebit 2009 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080930120151.225150@gmx.net> Hi, who want`s to participate in Cebit 2009 ? http://www.golem.de/0809/62683.html cu romal www.romal.de blog.romal.de From kanarip at kanarip.com Tue Sep 30 12:36:25 2008 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:36:25 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Cebit 2009 In-Reply-To: <20080930120151.225150@gmx.net> References: <20080930120151.225150@gmx.net> Message-ID: <48E21D49.4010906@kanarip.com> Robert M. Albrecht wrote: > Hi, > > who want`s to participate in Cebit 2009 ? > > http://www.golem.de/0809/62683.html > I do. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From gerold at lugd.org Tue Sep 30 12:39:43 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:39:43 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Cebit 2009 In-Reply-To: <48E21D49.4010906@kanarip.com> References: <20080930120151.225150@gmx.net> <48E21D49.4010906@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <51038.217.162.12.42.1222778383.squirrel@www.gbc.net> > Robert M. Albrecht wrote: >> Hi, >> >> who want`s to participate in Cebit 2009 ? >> >> http://www.golem.de/0809/62683.html >> > > I do. > > Kind regards, > > Jeroen van Meeuwen > -kanarip we want to (maybe) .... Regards Gerold From Andreas.Rau at unibas.ch Tue Sep 30 12:40:05 2008 From: Andreas.Rau at unibas.ch (Andreas Rau) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:40:05 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Cebit 2009 In-Reply-To: <48E21D49.4010906@kanarip.com> References: <20080930120151.225150@gmx.net> <48E21D49.4010906@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <1222778405.21317.21.camel@urz-ar224.urz.unibas.ch> I could help ;) kind regards, ANdi Am Dienstag, den 30.09.2008, 14:36 +0200 schrieb Jeroen van Meeuwen: > Robert M. Albrecht wrote: > > Hi, > > > > who want`s to participate in Cebit 2009 ? > > > > http://www.golem.de/0809/62683.html > > > > I do. > > Kind regards, > > Jeroen van Meeuwen > -kanarip > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Sep 30 12:44:38 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:44:38 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Cebit 2009 In-Reply-To: <20080930120151.225150@gmx.net> References: <20080930120151.225150@gmx.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Robert M. Albrecht wrote: > who want`s to participate in Cebit 2009 ? > > http://www.golem.de/0809/62683.html I think one of the decisions we must make at FAD is what kind (if any) of Fedora presence we want at Cebit, LinuxTag, etc. There are a lot of events, and we can't do them all. Especially Cebit and LinuxTag, which are very expensive. --Max From red at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 30 12:51:19 2008 From: red at fedoraproject.org (Sandro "red" Mathys) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:51:19 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Cebit 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <20080930120151.225150@gmx.net> Message-ID: <48E220C7.3010800@fedoraproject.org> Max Spevack wrote: > There are a lot of events, and we can't do them all. > Especially Cebit and LinuxTag, which are very expensive. +1 From peter at reuschlein.de Tue Sep 30 12:53:10 2008 From: peter at reuschlein.de (Peter Reuschlein) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:53:10 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Cebit 2009 In-Reply-To: <48E220C7.3010800@fedoraproject.org> References: <20080930120151.225150@gmx.net> <48E220C7.3010800@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <48E22136.7030409@reuschlein.de> Sandro "red" Mathys schrieb: > Max Spevack wrote: >> There are a lot of events, and we can't do them all. > > Especially Cebit and LinuxTag, which are very expensive. > +1 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Yeh, we just had this in #fedora-de some minutes ago. The booth maybe free but i think at cebit the things around will be the most expensive things. Getting a hotel is nearly impossible .. i think you know the situation. regards Peter -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 259 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From Andreas.Rau at unibas.ch Tue Sep 30 13:19:29 2008 From: Andreas.Rau at unibas.ch (Andreas Rau) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:19:29 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Cebit 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <20080930120151.225150@gmx.net> Message-ID: <1222780769.21317.23.camel@urz-ar224.urz.unibas.ch> That's the point Am Dienstag, den 30.09.2008, 14:44 +0200 schrieb Max Spevack: > On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Robert M. Albrecht wrote: > > > who want`s to participate in Cebit 2009 ? > > > > http://www.golem.de/0809/62683.html > > I think one of the decisions we must make at FAD is what kind (if any) > of Fedora presence we want at Cebit, LinuxTag, etc. There are a lot of > events, and we can't do them all. Especially Cebit and LinuxTag, which > are very expensive. > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From gerold at lugd.org Tue Sep 30 13:25:45 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:25:45 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Cebit 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <20080930120151.225150@gmx.net> Message-ID: <51759.217.162.12.42.1222781145.squirrel@www.gbc.net> > On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Robert M. Albrecht wrote: > >> who want`s to participate in Cebit 2009 ? >> >> http://www.golem.de/0809/62683.html > > I think one of the decisions we must make at FAD is what kind (if any) > of Fedora presence we want at Cebit, LinuxTag, etc. There are a lot of > events, and we can't do them all. Especially Cebit and LinuxTag, which > are very expensive. > > --Max also my +1 on the other hand we need to make an application before 1008-09-30 and that's the reason why I said "maybe" ... Personally I "fear" to attend because of "not target audience" on the other hand is linux today everywhere and other fairs have the same problems with taking care of linux participants. So that's why I like to say: 1.) Try to get a booth for free 2.) if we were choosen, Cebit will help us with hotel rooms 3.) decide at FAD what we want to show where, when with which costs and please: not only in Germany :-) FAD should cover EMEA (if possible)! Regards from man at work Gerold From azneita at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 30 13:27:12 2008 From: azneita at fedoraproject.org (Heherson Pagcaliwagan) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:27:12 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Release Events Budget Preview - Last Call In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <928156be0809300627v493e1fd4l2bf74e7ab8d4f445@mail.gmail.com> > > > If you have added your preview in the details on your Release Event > wiki page, please let me know. > Francesco, We have our preview in the Release Event Wiki page. Right now, I cannot pin any definite number on the attendees but it should be around 150-200 if the two venues would push through. If for some reason, we can't do it for both ~50 then. Many thanks. -- Heherson Pagcaliwagan http://project.azneita.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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CentOS and FSFE are interessted in doing a booth, we could combine our ressources. Linuxtag is expensive, as there are too many people. Much more, than are needed to man the booth. Linuxtag is some kind of paid user-group-meeting, which is fun, but expensive. If we focus on how many people are really needed, the costs would decrease massive. cu romal On 30.09.2008 14:44 Uhr, Max Spevack wrote: > On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Robert M. Albrecht wrote: > >> who want`s to participate in Cebit 2009 ? >> >> http://www.golem.de/0809/62683.html > > I think one of the decisions we must make at FAD is what kind (if any) > of Fedora presence we want at Cebit, LinuxTag, etc. There are a lot of > events, and we can't do them all. Especially Cebit and LinuxTag, which > are very expensive. > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From romal at gmx.de Tue Sep 30 16:21:48 2008 From: romal at gmx.de (Robert M. Albrecht) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:21:48 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Puebla / Mexico In-Reply-To: References: <48D28CBA.5000303@gmx.de> Message-ID: <48E2521C.10408@gmx.de> Hi, I 'recruited' two RHCE from Puebla (Mexico) for Fedora Ambassadors. I cced the mail to you, could you help them into the project ? cu romal www.romal.de blog.romal.de On 18.09.2008 20:00 Uhr, Juan M. Rodriguez wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Robert M. Albrecht > wrote: > > Hi, > > I`m in Puebla next week. Are there any ambassadors to meet ? A local > user group to attend ? A must see / attend for free software users ? > > cu romal > > www.romal.de > blog.romal.de > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > Hi there Robert. > > As far as I know, there aren't any Fedora Ambassadors in Mexico, we do > have one in Chihuahua and I live in Nuevo Leon. That's about it for > active Ambassadors living in Mexico as far as I know. > > Should you find anything or anyone in Puebla, please let me know! > > -- > Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno > Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos > Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From shambo.linux at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 16:36:42 2008 From: shambo.linux at gmail.com (Shambo Bose) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:06:42 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Puebla / Mexico In-Reply-To: <48E2521C.10408@gmx.de> References: <48D28CBA.5000303@gmx.de> <48E2521C.10408@gmx.de> Message-ID: Hello sir, Can I know what project you are talking about sir ? I am have already a fedora contributor . Thank You. Yours sincerely, Shambo Bose -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sebastian at when.com Tue Sep 30 16:40:00 2008 From: sebastian at when.com (Sebastian Dziallas) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:40:00 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Cebit 2009 In-Reply-To: <48E25199.9050109@gmx.de> References: <20080930120151.225150@gmx.net> <48E25199.9050109@gmx.de> Message-ID: <48E25660.6000803@when.com> Robert M. Albrecht wrote: > Hi, > > Thorsten Leemhuis lives in Hannover. I live a 100 km away, some others > could be in the area too. /me lives also next to Hannover, too (~ 20 kilometers) I'd be happy to help and, if possible, to hold a talk or so... (sorry for being a little bit late with the reply) --Sebastian > For Cebit 2008 (KDE) we rented an appartment for 400 Euros, where > several people could stay the whole week. > > CentOS and FSFE are interessted in doing a booth, we could combine our > ressources. > > Linuxtag is expensive, as there are too many people. Much more, than are > needed to man the booth. Linuxtag is some kind of paid > user-group-meeting, which is fun, but expensive. If we focus on how many > people are really needed, the costs would decrease massive. > > cu romal > > > On 30.09.2008 14:44 Uhr, Max Spevack wrote: >> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Robert M. Albrecht wrote: >> >>> who want`s to participate in Cebit 2009 ? >>> >>> http://www.golem.de/0809/62683.html >> >> I think one of the decisions we must make at FAD is what kind (if any) >> of Fedora presence we want at Cebit, LinuxTag, etc. There are a lot of >> events, and we can't do them all. Especially Cebit and LinuxTag, which >> are very expensive. >> >> --Max >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From satyajit at nerdshack.com Tue Sep 30 16:18:11 2008 From: satyajit at nerdshack.com (Satyajit Ranjeev) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:18:11 +0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Educational spin ; The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> <48E1C274.7080006@gmail.com> <48E1C59C.9070807@gmail.com> <48E1C605.5070100@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1222791491.4738.5.camel@compaq.oakgrove.hom> hi, why don't we create an add on disk or something like that so normal users can download this too and install the codecs and drivers etc. Now i do realize it has to be unofficial but hows the idea? I am working in a school right now as a systems administrator, a programmer and a teacher. I want to install fedora and install the educational softwares too. I am hoping we could come up with a educational spin ( I realize there is something similar to that but as I see its concentrating towards mathematics) like the edubuntu. Satyajit On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 16:16 +0530, Shambo Bose wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:54 AM, "Sankarshan (????????)" > wrote: > Zachary Oglesby wrote: > > Sankarshan (????????) wrote: > >> Shambo Bose wrote: > > > >>> I have also faced some questions from fedora users in my > locality that : > >>> why mp3 music and some video formats cannot be played out > of the box ? > >> And how did you respond to such questions ? > > > > Tell them the importance of free software and have them read > about it on > > the GNU.org. Explain why patents are holding back software > development > > and help them to understand why Fedora holds freedom so > high. > > > Ah yes, I was more curious as to how Shambo responds to this > questions - > the notion being to figure out whether the end users are > comprehending > such concepts. > > -- > > http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally > re-published > http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science > http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for > creative work > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Hi, > > > I am currently telling users either convert their videos and other > media format to ogg or I am recommending them to use the package which > Movie player recommends to use . > > Thank You. > > your sincerely, > > Shambo Bose > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From paulds at bu.edu Tue Sep 30 17:16:35 2008 From: paulds at bu.edu (Paul Stauffer) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:16:35 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Educational spin ; The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: <1222791491.4738.5.camel@compaq.oakgrove.hom> References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> <48E1C274.7080006@gmail.com> <48E1C59C.9070807@gmail.com> <48E1C605.5070100@gmail.com> <1222791491.4738.5.camel@compaq.oakgrove.hom> Message-ID: <20080930171635.GI29525@cs.bu.edu> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:18:11PM +0700, Satyajit Ranjeev wrote: > why don't we create an add on disk or something like that so normal > users can download this too and install the codecs and drivers etc. Now > i do realize it has to be unofficial but hows the idea? Sigh. Once again, this is off-topic for any Fedora list. Please go talk to the Livna people or some other 3rd party if you want to do something like this. And again: It would be a VIOLATION OF US PATENT LAW for the Fedora Project to distribute many of the multimedia codecs you refer to, and it would be a VIOLATION OF THE GPL, and therefore a VIOLATION OF US COPYRIGHT LAW for the Fedora Project to distribute non-GPL-compliant kernel modules such as the video drivers you refer to. Does everyone understand this? Would it help if I used more capital letters? The fact is we are LEGALLY FORBIDDEN to do what you are asking. So everyone, PLEASE stop asking. If you live in the free world where software patents are not valid, then you are absolutely free to make your own repo or disk or whatever that contains all the open source codecs that you want, just like Livna does. But *Fedora* can't do it unless US law changes. Period, end of story. - Paul -- Paul Stauffer Manager of Research Computing Computer Science Department Boston University From rishi_setiya09 at yahoo.co.in Tue Sep 30 17:50:19 2008 From: rishi_setiya09 at yahoo.co.in (rishi setiya) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:20:19 +0530 (IST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Asking for some fedora dvd's for destribution Message-ID: <322366.18756.qm@web7904.mail.in.yahoo.com> Hi Tushar, ????????????? As I saw a mail of thanks to you by a member for sending him dvd's. If You are able to send me some dvd's. It will be thankful. Regards Rishi Setiya Address:-T/14, Hathital Colony, ?????????????Jabalpur.(M.P.) ???????????? India ?????????????PIN-482001 Email:-rishi_setiya09 at yahoo.co.in Get rid of Add-Ons in your email ID. Get yourname at rocketmail.com. Sign up now! http://in.promos.yahoo.com/address -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Haven't gotten around to updating this yet, but at least it still happens :) Cheers, Clint From avibrazil at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 19:46:40 2008 From: avibrazil at gmail.com (Avi Alkalay) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:46:40 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Educational spin ; The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora. In-Reply-To: <1222791491.4738.5.camel@compaq.oakgrove.hom> References: <7c9ab4ad0809282202l779d4142u19acc4f34107b58a@mail.gmail.com> <48E07194.2060307@gmail.com> <48E1C274.7080006@gmail.com> <48E1C59C.9070807@gmail.com> <48E1C605.5070100@gmail.com> <1222791491.4738.5.camel@compaq.oakgrove.hom> Message-ID: I wrote a tutorial (a basic copy-paste of some yum commands) on how to quickly install all codecs etc in a Fedora box. http://avi.alkalay.net/2007/06/fedora-post-installation-configurations.html You can play DVDs and DivX and H.264 and MP4 a few minutes after installing Fedora with this tutorial. Regards, Avi On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Satyajit Ranjeev wrote: > hi, > > why don't we create an add on disk or something like that so normal > users can download this too and install the codecs and drivers etc. Now > i do realize it has to be unofficial but hows the idea? > > I am working in a school right now as a systems administrator, a > programmer and a teacher. I want to install fedora and install the > educational softwares too. I am hoping we could come up with a > educational spin ( I realize there is something similar to that but as I > see its concentrating towards mathematics) like the edubuntu. > > Satyajit > > > > On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 16:16 +0530, Shambo Bose wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:54 AM, "Sankarshan (????????)" > > wrote: > > Zachary Oglesby wrote: > > > Sankarshan (????????) wrote: > > >> Shambo Bose wrote: > > > > > >>> I have also faced some questions from fedora users in my > > locality that : > > >>> why mp3 music and some video formats cannot be played out > > of the box ? > > >> And how did you respond to such questions ? > > > > > > Tell them the importance of free software and have them read > > about it on > > > the GNU.org. Explain why patents are holding back software > > development > > > and help them to understand why Fedora holds freedom so > > high. > > > > > > Ah yes, I was more curious as to how Shambo responds to this > > questions - > > the notion being to figure out whether the end users are > > comprehending > > such concepts. > > > > -- > > > > http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally > > re-published > > http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science > > http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for > > creative work > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am currently telling users either convert their videos and other > > media format to ogg or I am recommending them to use the package which > > Movie player recommends to use . > > > > Thank You. > > > > your sincerely, > > > > Shambo Bose > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- http://avi.alkalay.net/blog -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lajjr at yahoo.com Tue Sep 30 19:56:13 2008 From: lajjr at yahoo.com (Leo Jackson) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Asking for fedora CDs, DVD for Duplication. In-Reply-To: <322366.18756.qm@web7904.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <938171.266.qm@web84307.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Well I am putting together an event, and so far I will have a total of about 60 to 80 new members. I decided after talking to them for awhile I will also have an install party as well. Also a live usb system up and running. I want to create about 75 to eighty burnt Cd's, DVDs. Is it possible to have a copy of each Cd's, DVD so I can show them on the table and burn from them? Fedora 10 or 9 both if possible. I will burn them as the people show up. I have a ProDuplicator 7 burner, I will have a start of 10 to 20 disk pre burnt. So all it will be for is to dup from. I have two clubs from University of Scranton and Marywood College in pa and a local chapter from surrounding area. We took images from online for T-Shirts about 20 hats and a huge area in my building to allow install and show what free can do. If I get Fedora 9,10 either download or from here. I will show the "Fedora 10". We are also giving away usb drives 4 gig we got from Tiger Direct. If possible great if not I can get from online..also I will show ways to customize the systems to what they need have a QA at the end and install party. Food and Drinks etc banners No other help really needed. Leo Albert Jackson Jr Owner Head Programmer LJ's Electronics and Software From kushaldas at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 20:01:25 2008 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 01:31:25 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors][STOP THIS THREAD] [Was: Educational spin ; The lack of quality video drivers is destroying Fedora.] Message-ID: 2008/10/1 Avi Alkalay : > I wrote a tutorial (a basic copy-paste of some yum commands) on how to > quickly install all codecs etc in a Fedora box. > > http://avi.alkalay.net/2007/06/fedora-post-installation-configurations.html > > You can play DVDs and DivX and H.264 and MP4 a few minutes after installing > Fedora with this tutorial. Go and read the rules, you are *NOT* supposed to discuss these things on this mailing list. Stop replying to this thread. Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 30 19:55:52 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:55:52 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Message-ID: <200809302155.55900.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear Ambassadors, let me welcome in the Name of us all new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dbruno https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kam Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 20:10:56 2008 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:10:56 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Asking for fedora CDs, DVD for Duplication. In-Reply-To: <938171.266.qm@web84307.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <322366.18756.qm@web7904.mail.in.yahoo.com> <938171.266.qm@web84307.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Leo Jackson wrote: > Well I am putting together an event, and so far I will have a total of about 60 to 80 new members. I decided after talking to them for awhile I will also have an install party as well. Also a live usb system up and running. I want to create about 75 to eighty burnt Cd's, DVDs. Is it possible to have a copy of each Cd's, DVD so I can show them on the table and burn from them? Fedora 10 or 9 both if possible. I will burn them as the people show up. I have a ProDuplicator 7 burner, I will have a start of 10 to 20 disk pre burnt. So all it will be for is to dup from. > > I have two clubs from University of Scranton and Marywood College in pa and a local chapter from surrounding area. > > We took images from online for T-Shirts about 20 hats and a huge area in my building to allow install and show what free can do. If I get Fedora 9,10 either download or from here. I will show the "Fedora 10". We are also giving away usb drives 4 gig we got from Tiger Direct. > > If possible great if not I can get from online..also I will show ways to customize the systems to what they need have a QA at the end and install party. Food and Drinks etc banners > No other help really needed. > > Leo Albert Jackson Jr > Owner Head Programmer > LJ's Electronics and Software Leo, As I understand it, you do not have access to download these isos? You can get them from the following places: http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease If you don't have access to download these isos, let us know and we'll see what we can do. David Nalley is the regional ambassador over your area and could possibly help you with this, or I might also be able to help. Feel free to find us here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Regions Cheers, Clint From hamada.zahera at yahoo.com Tue Sep 30 22:04:57 2008 From: hamada.zahera at yahoo.com (Hamada Zahera) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Release Events Budget Preview - Last Call In-Reply-To: <928156be0809300627v493e1fd4l2bf74e7ab8d4f445@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <193852.19877.qm@web45815.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi All, My budget preview is attached with the mail. Please download and refer the file for my Budget Preview for Fedora Local Event in cairo ,. My event is on December 7, 2008. 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