[Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting log. 09-07-2008

Mon Sep 8 19:16:36 UTC 2008

On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 10:00 AM, susmit shannigrahi <
thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com> wrote:

> <magie> MagieAntonio
> <susmit> SusmitShannigrahi
> <shambo> shambo
> <born2linux> EngelsAntonio
> <dipanjanc> DipanjanChakraborty
> <rishikesh> Rishikesh
> <rishikesh> RishikeshSharma
> <btoogood> btoogood
> <susmit> btoogood, your wiki name please (FirstnameLastname)
> <btoogood> BrendonToogood
> <susmit> what do we have on agenda?
> <dipanjanc> t-shirts
> <rishikesh> apac polo shirt
> <susmit> ok
> <rishikesh> upcoming events for q4
> <rishikesh> chinese forum support
> <dipanjanc> we were talking about the design and price
> <rishikesh> any chinese member here?
> <susmit> the design can be "outsourced" to art team
> <susmit> are you aware of the service?
> <dipanjanc> yes
> <shambo> yes
> <dipanjanc> does the price depend on the design?
> <dipanjanc> or is there a fixd one?
> <susmit> rarely, when you produce in bulk, its fixed
> <btoogood> i reckon a fixed price myself
> <dipanjanc> how much is it around?
> <dipanjanc> and can we customize it for our region/
> <shambo> !!
> <susmit> dipanjanc, +1
> <shambo> Its about 25 euro
> <btoogood> as because of different currencies around apac if people
> are going to order in bulk just a thought
> <shambo> dipanjanc, +1
> <susmit> shambo, too high a price, we produced some in ~INR250 :)
> <dipanjanc> 25 euro is around how much in INR?
> <btoogood> approx $54 NZD
> <rishikesh> 1592 inr
> <susmit> very conservative estimate, excluding shipping, ~10USD
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> <susmit> but the question is
> <dipanjanc> 1592 INR is too high
> <rishikesh> yea
> <susmit> who is going to produce them and how to ship it
> <susmit> ?
> <rishikesh> i think 10 euro is better
> <dipanjanc> can we take susmit's suggestion of INR 250?
> <rishikesh> we will contact famsco for this
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> <susmit> Initially, it will involve a lot of money
> <susmit> rishikesh, that's fine
> <rishikesh> becasue all the financial matter require to contact famsco
> <dipanjanc> if we want to customize it, who's doing the design?
> <susmit> they are unlikely to provide support for something non-event
> <rishikesh> they have already done for the european ambassadors
> <btoogood> ok i have just had a thought, now dont bite me, but why not
> get the design done and the ambassadors get them printed for there
> regions, according to colour of the polo
> <btoogood> as different countries different prices for printing, just a
> thought
> <Subhodip> i guess it was for fudcon
> <susmit> EMEA has done that..my friend
>  shambo shandflm SMParrish sm|CPU Sonar_Gal Sonar_Guy sonar_logger3
> spevack spot spstarr_work stickster StillBob Subhodip susmit
> <susmit> and yes, Subhodip is right
> <dipanjanc> so, what's the solution?
> <shambo> we must calculate the oder no first as with that pricing will
> vary .i.e if we are ordering
> <Subhodip> getting a polo shirt printed will be expensive
> <susmit> Subhodip, not much
> <susmit> ~10USD
> <rishikesh> for that quatity, we need to put up the wiki for polo shirt
> request
> <rishikesh> for that quantity, we need to put up the wiki for polo shirt
> request
> <magie> it's around 7 us dollars in the philippines
> <Subhodip> so what about normal tees ..then btoogood's suggestion can be
> done
> <susmit> magie, nice :)
> <susmit> Subhodip, we
> <susmit> have two things
> <susmit> one production cost, and another shipping cost
> <magie> normal t-shirts go for 4.3 us dollars
> <dipanjanc> btoogood's suggestion of getting the design done and
> printing it locally is good.
> <dipanjanc> is it not?
> <rishikesh> lets fix one thing first
> <susmit> yes
> <Subhodip> if we have a specific design and if we print them locally
> as per btoogood then shipping cost
> <Subhodip> is not needed i guess
> <susmit> first thing is, lets approach art team for a cooool design.
> <rishikesh> it should be polo shirt or t-shirt
> <susmit> :)
> <rishikesh> to me i think polo shirt is better than th-shirt
> <Subhodip> +1
> <dipanjanc> whichever is more economic :)
> <rishikesh> 'casue in any event, polo shirt is better
> <Subhodip> tee shirt
> <susmit> rishikesh, me, me , me too...
> <btoogood> tee shirt is better in summer
> <rishikesh> t-shirt is very casual
> <rishikesh> not so formal
> <dipanjanc> we mostly have summer in India
> <Subhodip> eh .. i am wearing fedora tee now ..its not casual
> <susmit> what others say?
> <rishikesh> 'cause we represent fedora
> <dipanjanc> casual is not a factor. I think
> <EvilBob> Get Fedora skirts so you stand out in the crowd...
> <rishikesh> what we do is what fedora is
> * EvilBob runs
> <dipanjanc> whatever is good will do
> <Subhodip> EvilBob, lol
> * susmit runs afet EvilBob
> <susmit> after
> <shambo> tees will be better
> <btoogood> +1 for tees
> <Subhodip> so what about if we have a design and let  the ambassador
> print on what he wan t
> <rishikesh> so representing fedora on people event by wearing t-shirt
> is not a good idea to me
> <Subhodip> want
> <dipanjanc> +1 for tees
> <susmit> hold on for a second
> <susmit> what about girls?
> <Subhodip> rishikesh, you are getting it wrong
> <dipanjanc> girls wear t-shirts
> <dipanjanc> don't they?
> <susmit> but the _same_ t-shirt?
> <btoogood> they do here
> <Subhodip> susmit, yes
> <dipanjanc> they do wear the same t-shirts.
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> <susmit> I have no problem, but why not ask the girls?
> <btoogood> uni-sex tees
> <dipanjanc> But, incase they are reluctant, we must think of an alternative
> <shambo> if being formal is the case  full sleeve shirts is a better option
> <dipanjanc> I am not much conversant about ladies-wears
> <susmit> lets post this idea on list..and ask for "criticism" :)
> <rishikesh> ok
> <shambo> +1
> <Subhodip> +1
> <rishikesh> +1
> <btoogood> +1
> <dipanjanc> +1
> <susmit> +1 :)
> * btoogood just asked my wife she thinks tees
> <dipanjanc> will differ from country to country
> <susmit> and? we are waiting with our finger crossed :D
> <rishikesh> fedora is the voice of people, so lets put up on wiki for vote
> <dipanjanc> have we finalised for the men?
> <dipanjanc> or do we vote for it?
> <btoogood> lets take a vote
> <susmit> lets discuss it on the list first...then we 'll have a vote
> * Subhodip thinks normal tee is better .. but not the white one ..if
> printed on black/blue ..its great
> <dipanjanc> if we go for a vote, we must also mention the estimated
> price against each option
> <shambo> about the costing : we should select a nation where cost of
> printing and cost of tees/polos will be low
> <btoogood> +1 for blue
> <dipanjanc> and shipping
> <shambo> withn APAC
> <rishikesh> we should go for fedora colour
> <shambo> shipping will be less than that of US
> <susmit> considering APAC is a huge region, why don't we produce it
> two or three countries..
> <Subhodip> first get the artwork done .. then we can have it printed
> in our respective countries
> <susmit> but lets not get into details first
> <susmit> Subhodip, right
> <dipanjanc> then what about the idea of printing it locally?
> <Subhodip> why bother about shipping right now
> <shambo> subhodip +1
> <susmit> dipanjanc, hold on
> <susmit> Lets define the tasks
> <dipanjanc> ok
> <shambo> ok
> <rishikesh> ok
> <susmit> 1. Post to the list asking for suggestions
> <btoogood> ok
> <susmit> 2. Request the art team along with Ideas
> <susmit> 3. Decide whether it will be a t-shirt or whatever
> <susmit> 4. Who is going to produce and store and ship
> <susmit> 5. How many?
> <susmit> EOF
> <rishikesh> ok
> <rishikesh> +1
> <shambo> +1
> <dipanjanc> done
> <susmit> anything anyone want to add?
> <rishikesh> lets do this onefirst
> <dipanjanc> can we also list the estimated price when we decide?
> <rishikesh> good idea
> <btoogood> good idea
> <susmit> yes we can
> <dipanjanc> which point does this add to? 6.?
> <susmit> dipanjanc, why don't you put up a wiki page on the same?
> <shambo> i think we should consider both pricing of tees and polos
> <dipanjanc> ok. I will do it. And let you know
> <susmit> thanks
> <rishikesh> ok
> <susmit> so may we move?
> <shambo> it will help in price comparison and better decision making
> <rishikesh> thats the end of discussion for shirts
> <dipanjanc> yes what's next?
> <rishikesh> now lets move forward for the events
> <btoogood> yip lets
> <shambo> yes
> <susmit> anyone from china?
> <rishikesh> i think we should go for a event in which all regions
> members can meet with
> <susmit> I guess no...so no point discussing agenda 2
> <rishikesh> each other ambassadors
> <dipanjanc> we are from different countries
> <Subhodip> susmit, link to agenda 2 please
> <susmit> Subhodip,
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-07
> <susmit> agenda 3
> <rishikesh> i think chinese people are not avaibale on the meeting
> <Subhodip> susmit, thanks
> <dipanjanc> q4 events
> <susmit> yes
> <rishikesh> yea
> <rishikesh> i have too a event on december 7
> <magie> !
> <susmit> magie,
> <susmit> please go on
> <magie> OT: we have an upcoming event on Sept 20, Q3
> <magie> before we talk about Q4
> <susmit> oops...the budget for Q3 is closed. But please go on
> <magie> funding was allocated for apac c/o Harish Pillay
> <susmit> oh, its listed
> <susmit> ok
> <susmit> SFD>'
> <susmit> ?
> <magie> software freedom day
> <magie> http://bluepoint.com.ph/sfd08/
> <magie> just want to ask how we go about getting help/funds
> <magie> if anyone has done it before
> <susmit> if you have an event, you need to enlist the event before
> that quarter's budget is closed
> <magie> yes we've done that, what's next?
> <rishikesh> the guidelines is also avaibale on the wiki
> <susmit> if famsco approve that, you will get funded
> <magie> budget is approved but how do we get the fund?
> <rishikesh> on december 7, 2008 i have Fedora 10 Realease party and
> install fest at Imphal,Manipur
> <rishikesh> this is the first fedora event in my region
> <susmit> I am not sure, probably you receive the fund after the event,
> I was so told...anyone from FamsCo here?
> <born2linux> magie, maybe we can just coordinate with famsco or harish
> about your inquiry
> <susmit> magie, anything else?
> <dipanjanc> I think we can move on
> <rishikesh> ok
> <susmit> rishikesh, have you enlisted your event?
> <magie> it's ok, I think rishikesh is excited about his event
> <susmit> :)
> <rishikesh> yea
> <rishikesh> you can check on the wiki
> <susmit> have you estimated expense and mailed famsco?
> <rishikesh> i would like to proposed an event in which apac
> ambassadors can meet with each other
> <rishikesh> nope
> <susmit> do that
> <Subhodip> rishikesh, do one thing at a time
> <btoogood> that would be good but very expensive though going from one
> country to another
> <rishikesh> ok
> <susmit> btoogood, +1
> <Subhodip> btoogood, +1
> <born2linux> +1
> <susmit> rishikesh, why do you think meeting in person is very necessary?
> <dipanjanc> btoogood, +1
> <btoogood> +1
> <dipanjanc> we are meetin here
> <rishikesh> do i need to explain all the detail expenses
> <rishikesh> while submitting
> <susmit> as minutely as possible
> <rishikesh> ok
> <btoogood> ok
> <susmit> Subhodip, can you have one such event?
> <susmit> may be at your place? or nit dgp?
> <susmit> I meant release event...
> <shambo> susmit we have a event on 20 sept
> <susmit> shambo, just a second
> <susmit> please
> <Subhodip> i need to talk to people in my college
> * stickster is now known as stickster_afk
> <susmit> do it please
> <Subhodip> ok
> <dipanjanc> yes. that will be great
> <susmit> dipanjanc, you can do that too at your lug?
> <dipanjanc> susmit: what about your place?
> <dipanjanc> yes I can. I suppose
> <susmit> go on and organise
> <susmit> shambo, please
> <dipanjanc> will need some details about how it's done
> <shambo> susmit we have a event on 20 sept
> <susmit> dipanjanc, mail me offlist
> <dipanjanc> ok
> <susmit> is it listed
> <susmit> ?
> * makghosh (n=Joy at 117.201.96.28) has joined #fedora-meeting
> <shambo> check out  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents
> <susmit> which one?
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> <shambo> owner A. Mani
> <susmit> oh..ok
> <susmit> SFD
> <shambo> yes
> <susmit> do you need any assistance?
> <susmit> not money
> <susmit>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Budget
> does not show your event
> <shambo> yes can i attend it . im not an ambassador
> <susmit> of course
> <shambo> ok
> <dipanjanc> can anyone give me the venue in Kolkata for this?
> <shambo> where is the event in kolkata no details is given
> <susmit> but that depends on the organisers, within fedora, if you are
> not an Ambassador its not a problem..
> <susmit> but why don't be one?
> <Subhodip> no offence ...aren't we deviating from agenda ..we are
> still stuck with Q3 ..
> <susmit> Subhodip, and its the last one :D
> <susmit> but yes, shambo mail Mani A.
> <susmit> anyone else?
> <shambo> ok
> <susmit> anything more anyone want to discuss?
> <susmit> 5
> <rishikesh> yes
> <susmit> rishikesh,
> <rishikesh> what are resources i can avail for my event
> <susmit> what do you need?
> <rishikesh> my event is fedora 10 release and i need fedora 10 dvd media
> <rishikesh> it is not released now
> <susmit> if you receive money, you need to take care of all those
> things from your budget
> <rishikesh> but when it is released
> <susmit> please search the wiki
> <shambo> there is a alpha release
> <rishikesh> when submiting budget
> <rishikesh> can i include all the requirements
> <rishikesh> iam going for a final release not alpha
> <rishikesh> like blank dvd cost
> <susmit> estimate..for example....for producing 100 media I need
> 100*9=900 INR for media and 100*1 =100 INR for stickers..So 1000INR
> for media and so on...
> <rishikesh> projector hiring cost
> <btoogood> stickers?
> <susmit> cd labels
> <btoogood> true
> <susmit> rishikesh,
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/Organization
> <susmit> go through it.
> <susmit> anything more?
> <rishikesh> ok
> <susmit> 5
> <susmit> 4
> <susmit> 3
> <susmit> 2
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Updated the wiki on the t-shirts:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/APAC_Ambassadors_T-Shirts

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Yours sincerely,
Dipanjan Chakraborty
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