From mel at redhat.com Tue Dec 1 04:32:52 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:32:52 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Teaching Open Source Resources o web links on spanish In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B149C74.4020807@redhat.com> On 11/30/2009 05:06 PM, Alejandro Perez wrote: > > Helo, > > Any one, do you know if there a web sites, for teaching open source or > free software on Spanish. Sites from Spain or Latam. I need to refer to > some web sites a couple of teachers that are interested on the matter, > Mel Chua give some links on English, thanks for those. I might also ask the http://teachingopensource.org community (which is the link I gave Alejandro on IRC earlier, and what Karlie wrote about from her blog post on NYSCATE last week) whether any of them are from LATAM. I think to find Spanish-speaking teaching-open-source communities, asking Spanish-speaking open source communities and teaching open source communities is probably a good bet. :) --Mel From hopparz at gmail.com Tue Dec 1 06:28:31 2009 From: hopparz at gmail.com (Zoltan Hoppar) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 07:28:31 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER: EMEA Ambassador Meeting this Wednesday ! In-Reply-To: <21461b360911301424u3e48cbc4oce2214bfb97f45e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <21461b360911301424u3e48cbc4oce2214bfb97f45e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2f3d0f330911302228j213faa24jfa4f91a7b04d4ef2@mail.gmail.com> Sadly, I cannot participate, I work in nightly workshift at my job. 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Frields) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 10:41:06 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Answers from the Candidate Questionnaire now in the Wiki (Was: Candidate Questionnaire status) In-Reply-To: <4B0CE4A5.70201@leemhuis.info> References: <4AFB2CF0.10303@leemhuis.info> <4B024899.60707@leemhuis.info> <4B02FDCC.8050508@leemhuis.info> <4B0B8EC3.9080403@leemhuis.info> <4B0CE4A5.70201@leemhuis.info> Message-ID: <20091201154106.GG2803@victoria.internal.frields.org> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 09:02:45AM +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Hi > > Me again ;-) > > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote on 24.11.2009 08:44: > > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote on 17.11.2009 20:47: > >> On 17.11.2009 07:54, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > >>> Thorsten Leemhuis wrote on 11.11.2009 22:30: > >>>> As you may have heard already, several seats of the Fedora > >>>> Board, FESCo, and FAMSCO are up for election soon(?). Right now > >>>> we are in the nomination period, which will be followed by a > >>>> "Candidate Questionnaire." [...] > >> Deadline for answers: 20091124-06:00 UTC [...] > > Quick status update: I sent the questions to 23 people and 19 of them > > replied with the answers. I didn't get any replies to the questions (or > > my reminder mail from Sunday evening) from > > > > * Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira (RodrigoPadula) > > * Max Spevack (spevack) > > * Scott Seiersen (sseiersen) > > * Will Woods (wwoods) > > Max sent a apology, but the other remained silent afaics. > > > I hope to find time to work through the answers later today (in > > something like 12 hours from now) and publish them afterwards. > > Compiled a wiki page with the answers and gave the nominees 12 hours to > check the results. A few bugs were found and fixed, but I think > everything is fine now. > > So the answers are now free for public consumption on this page: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections/F13_Questionnaire Thorsten, thanks for the time and effort you put into this. We'll make sure to notify the community that if they want to see results for a questionnaire for the next election, someone will need to take over this responsibility. Your help has been much appreciated! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From smcbrien at gmail.com Tue Dec 1 16:07:00 2009 From: smcbrien at gmail.com (scott mcbrien) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 11:07:00 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER: Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight! Message-ID: <6c56c38a0912010807j31859f22q7f004b3ee22d630e@mail.gmail.com> Hi everyone, Just wanted to remind the NA ambassadors that there's a meeting tonight in #fedora-meeting at 9:00p EST. The big topic of conversation is whether we want to drop producing Fedora Install DVD media for distribution, and produce live-isos only for distribution at shows and whatnot. So form your opinions and weigh in this evening. See you all there. -Scott From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Tue Dec 1 21:07:34 2009 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:07:34 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER: Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight! In-Reply-To: <6c56c38a0912010807j31859f22q7f004b3ee22d630e@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c56c38a0912010807j31859f22q7f004b3ee22d630e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7a0d56080912011307k3945572dk3f893bef18aa6ebe@mail.gmail.com> Hey, all -- I have removed the SCaLE 8x item that was on the agenda for this evening -- don't thank me all at once for making the meeting shorter -- because it's my daughter's birthday today and chances are I'll be somewhere near a birthday cake or some other birthday event at meeting time. I will put the item back on the agenda -- or the new owner of the event will -- for the Dec. 15 meeting. A couple of things about SCaLE, going forward, that I wanted to bring up: -- Scott Williams (vwbusguy) now owns the event, and I will be working with him on organizing the event while I also serve on the SCaLE board. Scott has the reins on this one, as well as my artesian depth of gratitude for stepping up to the plate on his "local" event. -- One of the more important topics around SCaLE that I wanted to bring up at the 12/1 meeting, which can easily be discussed on list (he says, noting he is speaking as a SCaLE person now), is getting a sense of how everyone feels about Fedora participating in a "mega-booth" idea that had been floated by Joe Brockmeier of OpenSUSE. This "mega-booth" will have the larger distros -- Fedora, OpenSUSE, Ubuntu -- and probably GNOME and KDE all in one spot, so those who are new to Linux have a "one-stop shop" to find out about Linux. Again, this is just an idea that's being discussed within circles of the aforementioned distros and desktops, and we should consider it as well. Thoughts? Larry Cafiero On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:07 AM, scott mcbrien wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Just wanted to remind the NA ambassadors that there's a meeting > tonight in #fedora-meeting at 9:00p EST. > > The big topic of conversation is whether we want to drop producing > Fedora Install DVD media for distribution, and produce live-isos only > for distribution at shows and whatnot. So form your opinions and > weigh in this evening. > > See you all there. > > -Scott > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Dec 2 04:16:45 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 23:16:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD Message-ID: Hi all, In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about producing more case badges, which look like this: http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What looks gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny. Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them to key folks around the world. >From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions, when we do the Q4 budget calculations. An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan? Thanks, Max From inode0 at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 04:23:36 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:23:36 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > Hi all, > > In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about > producing more case badges, which look like this: > > ? ? ? ?http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg > > They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. ?What looks > gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny. I'm horrible taking pictures too but maybe these look a little closer to what they really look like ... http://inode0.fedorapeople.org/swag/fedora-case-badges.jpg John From nacross at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 04:25:11 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:25:11 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have > use for some of these? ?Should we go ahead with this plan? > As one of the folks in LATAM, I have to say that they look beautiful ( I know how hard it is to take picture of shiny objects) and I certainly will love to be able to share some of them in any Fedora event. -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 04:27:08 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:57:08 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35586fc00912012027v64b3d43mad00604ad9d4289e@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have > use for some of these? ?Should we go ahead with this plan? I'd say yes. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia From aeperezt at hotmail.com Wed Dec 2 04:41:35 2009 From: aeperezt at hotmail.com (Alejandro Perez) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:41:35 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: <35586fc00912012027v64b3d43mad00604ad9d4289e@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00912012027v64b3d43mad00604ad9d4289e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, I think they will look nice and people will like them. They will be nice to have them on events. On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 09:57 +0530, sankarshan wrote: > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > > > So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have > > use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan? > > I'd say yes. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gaurav Live Layman Linux --- On Wed, 2/12/09, inode0 wrote: From: inode0 Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Date: Wednesday, 2 December, 2009, 4:23 AM On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > Hi all, > > In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about > producing more case badges, which look like this: > > ? ? ? ?http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg > > They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. ?What looks > gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny. I'm horrible taking pictures too but maybe these look a little closer to what they really look like ... http://inode0.fedorapeople.org/swag/fedora-case-badges.jpg John -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! 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Tuan) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:59:17 +0700 (ICT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: <4B160937.1040901@kaio.me> Message-ID: <5420535.1231259737157508.JavaMail.root@z.iwayvietnam.com> ----- "Caius 'kaio' Chance" wrote: > (2009?12?02? 14:16), Max Spevack wrote: > > Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the > most > > sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and > > shipping them to key folks around the world. > > > > I am very interested on the volume of the badges to be produced. It > should be highly demanded by every Fedora user! > Yes, it's good for Fedora users and developers around the world. I can simple print myself, but the print quality is surely not good as. Kind regards, Tuan From phrkonaleash at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 07:08:04 2009 From: phrkonaleash at gmail.com (Ryan Rix) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 00:08:04 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: <933430.29038.qm@web95404.mail.in2.yahoo.com> References: <933430.29038.qm@web95404.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200912020008.14030.phrkonaleash@gmail.com> On Tue 1 December 2009 10:46:58 pm Gaurav Prabhu wrote: > Could we get the source of such stickers? I mean a .jpg or so, so that we > can print them for ourself's. > > Gaurav Live > > Layman Linux > (from experience) Printing them by hand is a bad idea. If standard ink is used, the badges wear over time, leaving you with a white sticker eventually. This is especially true with laptop case badges, where they usually go on the palm-rest area of the laptop, where the user's hands constantly rub on it... : ( I've had that happen, even with Cafepress printed stickers. 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URL: From sajidigitaleye at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 07:08:15 2009 From: sajidigitaleye at gmail.com (SAJI S) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:38:15 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: <5420535.1231259737157508.JavaMail.root@z.iwayvietnam.com> References: <4B160937.1040901@kaio.me> <5420535.1231259737157508.JavaMail.root@z.iwayvietnam.com> Message-ID: I also want a badge...then only it reflects professionalism .... On 12/2/09, Truong Anh. Tuan wrote: > > > ----- "Caius 'kaio' Chance" wrote: > > > (2009?12?02? 14:16), Max Spevack wrote: > > > Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the > > most > > > sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and > > > shipping them to key folks around the world. > > > > > > > I am very interested on the volume of the badges to be produced. It > > should be highly demanded by every Fedora user! > > > Yes, it's good for Fedora users and developers around the world. > I can simple print myself, but the print quality is surely not good as. > > Kind regards, > Tuan > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jukka at devspain.com Wed Dec 2 07:52:31 2009 From: jukka at devspain.com (Jukka Palander) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:52:31 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1259740351.2120.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Jep, these would be great. We do systems installation (including OS installations) and it would be great idea to put one sticker in every computer what we have installed with Fedora... JP On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 23:16 -0500, Max Spevack wrote: > Hi all, > > In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about > producing more case badges, which look like this: > > http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg > > They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What > looks gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny. > > Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most > sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and > shipping them to key folks around the world. > > >From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions, > when we do the Q4 budget calculations. > > An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses > > So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia > have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan? > > Thanks, > Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From vip_csc_vip at hotmail.com Wed Dec 2 07:57:02 2009 From: vip_csc_vip at hotmail.com (kabodah farouk) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 07:57:02 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Ooh ! they look beautiful ... we will need some of them in any event in Egypt , we are preparing for this now. > Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:25:11 -0600 > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD > From: nacross at gmail.com > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > > > So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have > > use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan? > > > > As one of the folks in LATAM, I have to say that they look beautiful ( > I know how hard it is to take picture of shiny objects) and I > certainly will love to be able to share some of them in any Fedora > event. > > > -- > Neville > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v > Linux User # 473217 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail is faster and more secure than ever. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?ocid=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_1:092009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wonderer4711 at gmx.de Wed Dec 2 07:57:42 2009 From: wonderer4711 at gmx.de (wonderer) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:57:42 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B161DF6.6040804@gmx.de> Hy, > > So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and > Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan? Definitly YES. I would tag all our servers and workstations with them and on events it would look really cool on the netbook / notebook. mit freundlichen Gr??en / best regards Henrik Heigl - wonderer at fedoraproject.org PGP/GnuPG: 8237 D432 0616 D567 DBC6 3FE3 0D52 B374 F468 A5F0 my sedcard: http://www.model-kartei.de/sedcard/fotograf/177589/ From herson at azneita.org Wed Dec 2 08:01:25 2009 From: herson at azneita.org (Heherson Pagcaliwagan) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 16:01:25 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > Hi all, > > In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about > producing more case badges, which look like this: > > ? ? ? ?http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg > For some reason, I can't view the badges but going by what I saw on Mel's notebook last time she was here, they should be great! > They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. ?What looks > gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny. > > Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most sense > to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them to > key folks around the world. > >> From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions, > > when we do the Q4 budget calculations. > > An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses > > So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have > use for some of these? ?Should we go ahead with this plan? > > Thanks, > Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Heherson Pagcaliwagan http://project.azneita.org +63.908.885.5428 From hopparz at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 08:28:10 2009 From: hopparz at gmail.com (Zoltan Hoppar) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:28:10 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2f3d0f330912020028i3fac3888l99cc6d5594eee16@mail.gmail.com> I think it would be great to have these is similar version as pinnable badges. Stickers are great, but I think pins are more attractive if some shine catches the eyes. What do you think guys? 2009/12/2 Heherson Pagcaliwagan > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about > > producing more case badges, which look like this: > > > > http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg > > > > For some reason, I can't view the badges but going by what I saw on > Mel's notebook last time she was here, they should be great! > > > They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What > looks > > gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny. > > > > Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most > sense > > to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them > to > > key folks around the world. > > > >> From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions, > > > > when we do the Q4 budget calculations. > > > > An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses > > > > So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia > have > > use for some of these? 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URL: From frankly3d at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 08:29:58 2009 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:29:58 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: <2f3d0f330912020028i3fac3888l99cc6d5594eee16@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f3d0f330912020028i3fac3888l99cc6d5594eee16@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B162586.5050602@gmail.com> On 02/12/09 08:28, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: > I think it would be great to have these is similar version as pinnable > badges. Stickers are great, but I think pins are more attractive if some > shine catches the eyes. > > Hard to put one on a laptop\case --snip-- -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded. From dahlan at mnstate.edu Wed Dec 2 08:43:24 2009 From: dahlan at mnstate.edu (Andrew Dahl) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 02:43:24 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: <2f3d0f330912020028i3fac3888l99cc6d5594eee16@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f3d0f330912020028i3fac3888l99cc6d5594eee16@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I think case badges are much more appealing to people over pin-able badges/buttons. When people slap a badge on their laptop, wherever they go with it (campus, work, LAN parties), they'll have it there, so it would work as advertisement in that sense as well; whereas a pin-able badge has a much less likely chance of being worn to these places. All in all, it's not a bad idea, especially for use at events. I just think case badges are more appealing to people. -Andrew Dahl On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: > I think it would be great to have these is similar version as pinnable > badges. Stickers are great, but I think pins are more attractive if some > shine catches the eyes. > > What do you think guys? > > > 2009/12/2 Heherson Pagcaliwagan >> >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Max Spevack wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about >> > producing more case badges, which look like this: >> > >> > ? ? ? ?http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg >> > >> >> For some reason, I can't view the badges but going by what I saw on >> Mel's notebook last time she was here, they should be great! >> >> > They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. ?What >> > looks >> > gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny. >> > >> > Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most >> > sense >> > to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping >> > them to >> > key folks around the world. >> > >> >> From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions, >> > >> > when we do the Q4 budget calculations. >> > >> > An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters: >> > >> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses >> > >> > So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia >> > have >> > use for some of these? ?Should we go ahead with this plan? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Max >> > >> > -- >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Heherson Pagcaliwagan >> http://project.azneita.org >> +63.908.885.5428 >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > PGP: ?06853DF7 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > From ppapadeas at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 08:46:50 2009 From: ppapadeas at gmail.com (Pierros Papadeas) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 10:46:50 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: <4B162586.5050602@gmail.com> References: <2f3d0f330912020028i3fac3888l99cc6d5594eee16@mail.gmail.com> <4B162586.5050602@gmail.com> Message-ID: <21461b360912020046k9010225kef9dc48ea1acb7e2@mail.gmail.com> On behalf of EMEA Meeting we would be definitely interested in such swag :) I guess we will discuss it further on today's meeting. ~pierros On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: > On 02/12/09 08:28, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: >> >> I think it would be great to have these is similar version as pinnable >> badges. Stickers are great, but I think pins are more attractive if some >> shine catches the eyes. >> >> > > Hard to put one on a laptop\case > > --snip-- > -- > Regards, > > Frank Murphy > UTF_8 Encoded. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Pierros Papadeas PGP key: 0x6130DBF8 http://pierros.papadeas.gr pierros at papadeas.gr liknus @ GRnet , Freenode From arthurbuliva at fedoraproject.org Wed Dec 2 10:52:07 2009 From: arthurbuliva at fedoraproject.org (Arthur Buliva) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:52:07 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: <21461b360912020046k9010225kef9dc48ea1acb7e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f3d0f330912020028i3fac3888l99cc6d5594eee16@mail.gmail.com> <4B162586.5050602@gmail.com> <21461b360912020046k9010225kef9dc48ea1acb7e2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <11d4f3ae0912020252h6b216a31k2c16838c9aed8ac3@mail.gmail.com> The stickers are very beautiful. Regards, Arthur On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:46, Pierros Papadeas wrote: > On behalf of EMEA Meeting we would be definitely interested in such swag :) > I guess we will discuss it further on today's meeting. > > ~pierros > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) > wrote: > > On 02/12/09 08:28, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: > >> > >> I think it would be great to have these is similar version as pinnable > >> badges. 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" This topic was discussed with Mr. John Rose, not me. 2 .- On the licensing of the wiki: Rodrigo: This is an issue that is being solved in other thread, and is not bad to have some protection. Again, I see no problems in the discussions because things take patiently are solved. 3 .- His discussions with me and FAmSCo: (Rodrigo Padula mail) Rodrigo: I remind you that you didn't do 2 of the 3 steps to FAmSCo. you didn't sent the questionnaire with the ambassadors questions and did not attend to any of the Town Hall (sessions for ambassadors to know you better). All I said was that I worried about this situation... But apparently you don't want me to join you in FAmSCo. 4 .- For the discussion on Channel ... honesty: (Rodrigo Padula mail) Rodrigo: I apologized for accusing you of that (which really was only one line of dialogue that said "I go to these channels since I started with Fedora, you joined them since FAmSCo elections"). Now ... I wish all my colleagues know that I answered that way because Mr. Rodrigo told me directly "immature" and "because you act like your President Chavez" (plus other things a little more offensive) I believe, were worse. I do not like taking the gossip Rodrigo ... but if you want, I have no problems. 5 .- On the personal relations: (Rodrigo Padula mail) I think the only one with which I may have a misunderstood is with Mr. Rodrigo. About the big things that you "talk" that wants to achieve in LATAM I already have 4 months "working" on those. That I can show to alll ... Now, that is not enough or that you will look bad, is another thing... list a few of the things I'm working personally: * Magazine Latam (we have 15 contributors now) * Artwork regionalized IN SPANISH (no pt): we have 6 contributors * Education: we have 5 contributors, starting with the efforts in Argentina. * Medicine: 2 contributors (Venezuela is a pioneer in this field by developing medical systems based on fedora) * Translation: Several videos, guides and tutorials. * Fedora Mobile: 4 contributors, are developing a distro for mobiles * Fedora beginners: start developing an app for basic users You see, deeds not words We need to STOP, BREATHE, carefully read and write more calm!(Rodrigo Padula mail) + 1 Long live peace! (Rodrigo Padula mail) As a reflection Gentlemen It's easy to put a +1 where we believe that another person has a good idea, but how many of you are working on these big ideas? It is time to act, because I have my conscience clean... all of you too? (those who are working to ignore this) ------------------------------------------------------------ I'm really tired of this behavier. People acting like contributors should do things measurable just for one of us and not for all of us. This was something I was talking with Mel Chua (and now I think you understand now why I said some things related to this issues) and I, Mar?a Gracia Leandro, I'm not perfect, I don't have 10 years helping fedora, but I do know something... I'm here because I want to help, and I'm doing it (sometimes slowly, yes... but I never stop) and I'm tired of being stop. If this is happening to me, how many times has happened to some other contributors? are we loosing people because "we don't do what _someone_ think is right?" Like I said in my FAmSCo statement... I'm a fighter, and I'm here to help people who really need someone to speck things that never are said. Someone has to... Sorry for bring this up, but I really think this was necessary -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sspreitzer at fedoraproject.org Wed Dec 2 12:57:56 2009 From: sspreitzer at fedoraproject.org (Sascha Thomas Spreitzer) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:57:56 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: <11d4f3ae0912020252h6b216a31k2c16838c9aed8ac3@mail.gmail.com> References: <2f3d0f330912020028i3fac3888l99cc6d5594eee16@mail.gmail.com> <4B162586.5050602@gmail.com> <21461b360912020046k9010225kef9dc48ea1acb7e2@mail.gmail.com> <11d4f3ae0912020252h6b216a31k2c16838c9aed8ac3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, can we have a couple for the FOSDEM 2010 in Brussel? Would be cool. :D Looking forward to badge my case. regards, Sascha 2009/12/2 Arthur Buliva : > The stickers are very beautiful. > > Regards, > Arthur > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:46, Pierros Papadeas wrote: >> >> On behalf of EMEA Meeting we would be definitely interested in such swag >> :) >> I guess we will discuss it further on today's meeting. >> >> ~pierros >> >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) >> wrote: >> > On 02/12/09 08:28, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: >> >> >> >> I think it would be great to have these is similar version as pinnable >> >> badges. Stickers are great, but I think pins are more attractive if >> >> some >> >> shine catches the eyes. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > Hard to put one on a laptop\case >> > >> > --snip-- >> > -- >> > Regards, >> > >> > Frank Murphy >> > UTF_8 Encoded. >> > >> > -- >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Pierros Papadeas >> PGP key: 0x6130DBF8 >> http://pierros.papadeas.gr >> pierros at papadeas.gr >> liknus @ GRnet , Freenode >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Mit freundlichen Gr??en, / with kind regards, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer http://spreitzer.name/ From bbbush.yuan at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 12:58:29 2009 From: bbbush.yuan at gmail.com (Yuan Yijun) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 20:58:29 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <76e72f800912020458q1bf658abqceb1d9ec26f9679f@mail.gmail.com> 2009/12/2 Max Spevack : > Hi all, > > In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about > producing more case badges, which look like this: > > ? ? ? ?http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg > What's the size in mm or inch? A typical sticker is 2mmx3mm (I used nicu's design), is this bigger or smaller? I still have plenty of them which I printed years ago, but they start to fade, some new ones would be great. -- bbbush ^_^ From tristan.santore at internexusconnect.net Wed Dec 2 13:48:36 2009 From: tristan.santore at internexusconnect.net (Tristan Santore) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:48:36 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B167034.7030901@internexusconnect.net> On 02/12/09 04:16, Max Spevack wrote: > Hi all, > > In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about > producing more case badges, which look like this: > > http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg > > They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What > looks gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny. > > Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most > sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and > shipping them to key folks around the world. > >> From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions, > when we do the Q4 budget calculations. > > An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses > > So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and > Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan? > > Thanks, > Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Max, I would even happily pay for some of those case badges. And as Red Hat is a bit iffy,c about people paying for stuff, because of tax reasons (or whatever). Why not order more, and at least for EMEA, if people donate a small amount, they get sent a number of free case badges. Regards, Tristan -- Tristan Santore BSc MBCS TS4523-RIPE Network and Infrastructure Operations InterNexusConnect Mobile +44-78-55069812 Tristan.Santore at internexusconnect.net Thawte Notary For Fedora related issues, please email me at: TSantore at fedoraproject.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 3388 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From tatica at fedoraproject.org Wed Dec 2 13:53:50 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:23:50 -0430 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: <4B167034.7030901@internexusconnect.net> References: <4B167034.7030901@internexusconnect.net> Message-ID: <27a6293b0912020553s31c07a4av96f2c3cf2e129633@mail.gmail.com> Hello to all. In LATAM that help could really help a LOT. I think people who should receive that help must be: Nicaragua - Argentina - Colombia They could send us some to the rest of countries that truly need this and might be cheaper. Also, if we, Fedora LATAM folks, could help doing some paypal donation so we could receive a little more, just tell us what we have to do. I think that if we al LATAM put a litte effort could get a great amount. (if each of ambassadors donate 5 us$ or 10us$... wow) Thanks for this awesome help. :) 2009/12/2 Tristan Santore > On 02/12/09 04:16, Max Spevack wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about >> producing more case badges, which look like this: >> >> http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg >> >> They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What >> looks gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny. >> >> Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most >> sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping >> them to key folks around the world. >> >> From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions, >>> >> when we do the Q4 budget calculations. >> >> An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses >> >> So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia >> have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan? >> >> Thanks, >> Max >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > Max, > > I would even happily pay for some of those case badges. And as Red Hat is a > bit iffy,c about people paying for stuff, because of tax reasons (or > whatever). Why not order more, and at least for EMEA, if people donate > a small amount, they get sent a number of free case badges. > > > Regards, > Tristan > > -- > Tristan Santore BSc MBCS > TS4523-RIPE > Network and Infrastructure Operations > InterNexusConnect > Mobile +44-78-55069812 > Tristan.Santore at internexusconnect.net > > Thawte Notary > > For Fedora related issues, please email me at: > TSantore at fedoraproject.org > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at gnsa.us Wed Dec 2 14:04:45 2009 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:04:45 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > Hi all, > > In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about > producing more case badges, which look like this: > > http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg > > They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What looks > gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny. > > Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most sense > to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them to > key folks around the world. > >> From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions, > > when we do the Q4 budget calculations. > > An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses > > So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have > use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan? > > Thanks, > Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Just to add some concrete numbers so informed decision making can occur. The first 1,000 case badges cost $1,000, so $1 each. Most of this is the setup cost for the run. Every 1,000 case badges there after is $180, so the price drops to 0.18 per badge. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to drop any lower from there. This means we could order 11,000 case badges for $2,800 (25.45 cents each); 20,000 for $4,420 (22.1 cents each); and 50,000 for $9,820 (19.6 cents each). While those numbers seem big, globaly if we split that across APAC, EMEA, LATAM, and NA, it's a lot more affordable. The quality on these case badges is quite honestly second to none. I have literally not seen anything that comes close to comparing anywhere. They are also incredibly popular. In NA we burned through 3000 in a couple of months. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.10) iEYEARECAAYFAksWdE4ACgkQkZOYj+cNI1ce4gCeOiX+o+0deLJrIQqBxwxFUXWL W/kAmwa0UyWinP01jnIz4BVi8zn9muQM =l7An -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ppapadeas at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 14:14:33 2009 From: ppapadeas at gmail.com (Pierros Papadeas) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 16:14:33 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER: EMEA Ambassador Meeting today ! Message-ID: <21461b360912020614u5cd07604u452815012f607b76@mail.gmail.com> Ladies and gentlemen, Don't you remember there is an EMEA Ambassador meeting today (Europe, the Middle East, and Africa) on #fedora-meeting ? Day : Wednesday, December 2nd, 2009 Time : 20:00 UTC (check [2] to know your own time depending on your countries) Channel : #fedora-meeting Meeting agenda (add your topic before the meeting please) : [2] Update your agendas, and don't forget to join us. Kind regards, Pierros [1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=2&month=12&year=2009&hour=20&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-12-2 -- Pierros Papadeas PGP key: 0x6130DBF8 http://pierros.papadeas.gr pierros at papadeas.gr liknus @ GRnet , Freenode From tatica at fedoraproject.org Wed Dec 2 14:16:22 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:46:22 -0430 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <27a6293b0912020616n29cba759g6eb38a7e554ea709@mail.gmail.com> Just a question now that I see this numbers, and an example to explain myself better: Question: Have you ever consider make a "marketing store" not only to sell, but also to do all this marketing things on big amounts with Regions Budget and so it, get a better price and bigger amount? I know most of every region budget is for marketing items, so why don't we produce them in a single location, to: make more, make it cheaper? Examples: 1.- Software Freedom Day: They produce everything (t-shirts, stickers, media, plates... everything) in China and send them with massive shipping to all over the world. First 5 HUGE shipments get to main continents, and from there, local contacts deliver all material. 2.- Flisol: We buy everything in a single place of our country and deliver it to all our cities (get's really cheaper. We save almost 40% and buy more great stuff) ----- Might this be a good idea? has been tried before without success?? Only ideas, hope to help Nice day 2009/12/2 David Nalley > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about > > producing more case badges, which look like this: > > > > http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg > > > > They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What > looks > > gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny. > > > > Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most > sense > > to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them > to > > key folks around the world. > > > >> From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions, > > > > when we do the Q4 budget calculations. > > > > An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses > > > > So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia > have > > use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan? > > > > Thanks, > > Max > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > Just to add some concrete numbers so informed decision making can occur. > > The first 1,000 case badges cost $1,000, so $1 each. Most of this is > the setup cost for the run. Every 1,000 case badges there after is > $180, so the price drops to 0.18 per badge. Unfortunately it doesn't > seem to drop any lower from there. > > This means we could order 11,000 case badges for $2,800 (25.45 cents > each); 20,000 for $4,420 (22.1 cents each); and 50,000 for $9,820 > (19.6 cents each). > While those numbers seem big, globaly if we split that across APAC, > EMEA, LATAM, and NA, it's a lot more affordable. > > The quality on these case badges is quite honestly second to none. I > have literally not seen anything that comes close to comparing > anywhere. They are also incredibly popular. In NA we burned through > 3000 in a couple of months. > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.10) > > iEYEARECAAYFAksWdE4ACgkQkZOYj+cNI1ce4gCeOiX+o+0deLJrIQqBxwxFUXWL > W/kAmwa0UyWinP01jnIz4BVi8zn9muQM > =l7An > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at gnsa.us Wed Dec 2 14:43:54 2009 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 09:43:54 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:04 AM, David Nalley wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Max Spevack wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about >> producing more case badges, which look like this: >> >> http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg >> >> They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What looks >> gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny. >> >> Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most sense >> to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping them to >> key folks around the world. >> >>> From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions, >> >> when we do the Q4 budget calculations. >> >> An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses >> >> So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have >> use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan? >> >> Thanks, >> Max >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > Just to add some concrete numbers so informed decision making can occur. > > The first 1,000 case badges cost $1,000, so $1 each. Most of this is > the setup cost for the run. Every 1,000 case badges there after is > $180, so the price drops to 0.18 per badge. Unfortunately it doesn't > seem to drop any lower from there. > > This means we could order 11,000 case badges for $2,800 (25.45 cents > each); 20,000 for $4,420 (22.1 cents each); and 50,000 for $9,820 > (19.6 cents each). > While those numbers seem big, globaly if we split that across APAC, > EMEA, LATAM, and NA, it's a lot more affordable. > > The quality on these case badges is quite honestly second to none. I > have literally not seen anything that comes close to comparing > anywhere. They are also incredibly popular. In NA we burned through > 3000 in a couple of months. > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.10) > > iEYEARECAAYFAksWdE4ACgkQkZOYj+cNI1ce4gCeOiX+o+0deLJrIQqBxwxFUXWL > W/kAmwa0UyWinP01jnIz4BVi8zn9muQM > =l7An > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > CORRECTION: Apparently my numbers are way off. John Rose pulled up the actual numbers and the cost after the first 500 is 13cents per piece. The first 500 cost $550. So to redo my numbers: 11,000 would cost $1,915 20,000 would cost $3,085 50,000 would cost $6,985 At least it was less -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.10) iEYEARECAAYFAksWfXsACgkQkZOYj+cNI1cahQCePi/iB5mvSbdHE3Ym/Hf0O4lM 5v8AoJ4DE3LTnDK8bjwLzoDxEFo0X23K =xAlH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From hpillay at redhat.com Wed Dec 2 15:03:58 2009 From: hpillay at redhat.com (Harish Pillay) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 23:03:58 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20091202150358.GK6707@redhat.com> > So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia > have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan? In APAC, I am going ahead with making 5,000 pieces of these and I would therefore suggest that the APAC (India and Asia as in quote above) be taken out of the numbers Max was proposing. APAC Ambassadors, please email me directly on how many your respective geographies would need. Thanks. -- Harish Pillay 9v1hp hpillay at redhat.com +65.9636.9253 gpg id: 746809E3 gpg fingerprint: F7F5 5CCD 25B9 FC25 303E 3DA2 0F80 27DB 7468 09E3 From tristan.santore at internexusconnect.net Wed Dec 2 15:19:19 2009 From: tristan.santore at internexusconnect.net (Tristan Santore) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:19:19 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0912020553s31c07a4av96f2c3cf2e129633@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B167034.7030901@internexusconnect.net> <27a6293b0912020553s31c07a4av96f2c3cf2e129633@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B168577.6040900@internexusconnect.net> On 02/12/09 13:53, Mar?a Leandro wrote: > Hello to all. > > In LATAM that help could really help a LOT. I think people who should > receive that help must be: > > Nicaragua - Argentina - Colombia > > They could send us some to the rest of countries that truly need this > and might be cheaper. > > Also, if we, Fedora LATAM folks, could help doing some paypal donation > so we could receive a little more, just tell us what we have to do. I > think that if we al LATAM put a litte effort could get a great amount. > (if each of ambassadors donate 5 us$ or 10us$... wow) > > > > Thanks for this awesome help. > > :) > > > 2009/12/2 Tristan Santore > > > On 02/12/09 04:16, Max Spevack wrote: > > Hi all, > > In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking > about producing more case badges, which look like this: > > http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg > > They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it > justice. What looks gray in the picture is really silver, and > quite shiny. > > Due to the price points around producing these, it would make > the most sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or > more even) and shipping them to key folks around the world. > > >From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost > across regions, > > when we do the Q4 budget calculations. > > An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses > > So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, > and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with > this plan? > > Thanks, > Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Max, > > I would even happily pay for some of those case badges. And as Red > Hat is a bit iffy,c about people paying for stuff, because of tax > reasons (or whatever). Why not order more, and at least for EMEA, > if people donate > a small amount, they get sent a number of free case badges. > > > Regards, > Tristan > > -- > Tristan Santore BSc MBCS > TS4523-RIPE > Network and Infrastructure Operations > InterNexusConnect > Mobile +44-78-55069812 > Tristan.Santore at internexusconnect.net > > > Thawte Notary > > For Fedora related issues, please email me at: > TSantore at fedoraproject.org > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Maria, we all had those ideas for FEDORA EMEA, legally a club, but then Red Hat says, it could appear to US tax authorities, who have no jurisdiction in Germany (as the club is based there), that this is an official Red Hat entity, so then it was kind of implied we would have to change it's name. Then about selling stuff, they don't want to sell goods, I guess it is too much hassle for them. And we as the community cant make much of a fuss, as they donate thousands! And the Fedora board has to grant the privilege to make and sell goods, which for Fedora EMEA, they did (apparently). It is all a bit of a pain in the back side. You might find some discussions with regards to this all, in the meetings logs of the EMEA meetings. All I can say is, this is frustrating for everyone. I sent this message just to you, just so you know, what went on before. So brace yourself for problems, if you want to pursue this topic further. I personally hope you will, maybe somebody at Red Hat will listen. Good luck and all the best. Regards, Tristan apparently -- Tristan Santore BSc MBCS TS4523-RIPE Network and Infrastructure Operations InterNexusConnect Mobile +44-78-55069812 Tristan.Santore at internexusconnect.net Thawte Notary For Fedora related issues, please email me at: TSantore at fedoraproject.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 3388 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Dec 2 15:19:55 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 10:19:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER: EMEA Ambassador Meeting today ! In-Reply-To: <21461b360912020614u5cd07604u452815012f607b76@mail.gmail.com> References: <21461b360912020614u5cd07604u452815012f607b76@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 2 Dec 2009, Pierros Papadeas wrote: > Ladies and gentlemen, > > Don't you remember there is an EMEA Ambassador meeting today (Europe, > the Middle East, and Africa) on #fedora-meeting ? I will be there! --Max From tristan.santore at internexusconnect.net Wed Dec 2 15:22:25 2009 From: tristan.santore at internexusconnect.net (Tristan Santore) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:22:25 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: <4B168577.6040900@internexusconnect.net> References: <4B167034.7030901@internexusconnect.net> <27a6293b0912020553s31c07a4av96f2c3cf2e129633@mail.gmail.com> <4B168577.6040900@internexusconnect.net> Message-ID: <4B168631.5000709@internexusconnect.net> On 02/12/09 15:19, Tristan Santore wrote: > On 02/12/09 13:53, Mar?a Leandro wrote: >> Hello to all. >> >> In LATAM that help could really help a LOT. I think people who should >> receive that help must be: >> >> Nicaragua - Argentina - Colombia >> >> They could send us some to the rest of countries that truly need this >> and might be cheaper. >> >> Also, if we, Fedora LATAM folks, could help doing some paypal >> donation so we could receive a little more, just tell us what we have >> to do. I think that if we al LATAM put a litte effort could get a >> great amount. (if each of ambassadors donate 5 us$ or 10us$... wow) >> >> >> >> Thanks for this awesome help. >> >> :) >> >> >> 2009/12/2 Tristan Santore > > >> >> On 02/12/09 04:16, Max Spevack wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking >> about producing more case badges, which look like this: >> >> http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg >> >> They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it >> justice. What looks gray in the picture is really silver, >> and quite shiny. >> >> Due to the price points around producing these, it would make >> the most sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or >> more even) and shipping them to key folks around the world. >> >> >From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost >> across regions, >> >> when we do the Q4 budget calculations. >> >> An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses >> >> So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, >> India, and Asia have use for some of these? Should we go >> ahead with this plan? >> >> Thanks, >> Max >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> Max, >> >> I would even happily pay for some of those case badges. And as >> Red Hat is a bit iffy,c about people paying for stuff, because of >> tax reasons (or whatever). Why not order more, and at least for >> EMEA, if people donate >> a small amount, they get sent a number of free case badges. >> >> >> Regards, >> Tristan >> >> -- >> Tristan Santore BSc MBCS >> TS4523-RIPE >> Network and Infrastructure Operations >> InterNexusConnect >> Mobile +44-78-55069812 >> Tristan.Santore at internexusconnect.net >> >> >> Thawte Notary >> >> For Fedora related issues, please email me at: >> TSantore at fedoraproject.org >> >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> >> >> -- >> tatica >> Maria Gracia Leandro >> http://www.tatica.org >> http://www.fedora-ve.org >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro >> LinuxUser= 440285 >> GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 >> "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > Maria, > > we all had those ideas for FEDORA EMEA, legally a club, but then Red > Hat says, it could appear to US tax authorities, who have no > jurisdiction in Germany (as the club is based there), that this is an > official Red Hat entity, so then it was kind of implied we would have > to change it's name. Then about selling stuff, they don't want to sell > goods, I guess it is too much hassle for them. And we as the community > cant make much of a fuss, as they donate thousands! And the Fedora > board has to grant the privilege to make and sell goods, which for > Fedora EMEA, they did (apparently). It is all a bit of a pain in the > back side. You might find some discussions with regards to this all, > in the meetings logs of the EMEA meetings. All I can say is, this is > frustrating for everyone. I sent this message just to you, just so you > know, what went on before. So brace yourself for problems, if you want > to pursue this topic further. I personally hope you will, maybe > somebody at Red Hat will listen. > > Good luck and all the best. > > Regards, > Tristan > apparently > > -- > Tristan Santore BSc MBCS > TS4523-RIPE > Network and Infrastructure Operations > InterNexusConnect > Mobile +44-78-55069812 > Tristan.Santore at internexusconnect.net > > Thawte Notary > > For Fedora related issues, please email me at: > TSantore at fedoraproject.org > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > OK, that message was for Maria, obviously. Apologies, any opinions there were my own, and no offence should be taken from my email, as this is not anyones fault, especially not Max's. It is a "legal" issue. 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Tuan wrote: > > > ----- "Caius 'kaio' Chance" wrote: > > > (2009?12?02? 14:16), Max Spevack wrote: > > > Due to the price points around producing these, it would > make the > > most > > > sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more > even) and > > > shipping them to key folks around the world. > > > > > > > I am very interested on the volume of the badges to be > produced. It > > should be highly demanded by every Fedora user! > > > Yes, it's good for Fedora users and developers around the > world. > I can simple print myself, but the print quality is surely not > good as. > > Kind regards, > Tuan > I would also be interested in getting a badge. > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Alexander at mrtoasted.com Wed Dec 2 15:54:17 2009 From: Alexander at mrtoasted.com (Alexander) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 16:54:17 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER: EMEA Ambassador Meeting today ! In-Reply-To: References: <21461b360912020614u5cd07604u452815012f607b76@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c73ddb90912020754y7f87bc58p30e152477195ccad@mail.gmail.com> I'm unable to make it unfortunately. I will look forward to the logs. Good luck! Alexander On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 2 Dec 2009, Pierros Papadeas wrote: > > Ladies and gentlemen, >> >> Don't you remember there is an EMEA Ambassador meeting today (Europe, the >> Middle East, and Africa) on #fedora-meeting ? >> > > I will be there! > > --Max > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 17:47:45 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 01:47:45 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: <20091202150358.GK6707@redhat.com> References: <20091202150358.GK6707@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Harish Pillay wrote: >> So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia >> have use for some of these? ?Should we go ahead with this plan? > > In APAC, I am going ahead with making 5,000 pieces of these and I would > therefore suggest that the APAC (India and Asia as in quote above) be > taken out of the numbers Max was proposing. > > APAC Ambassadors, please email me directly on how many your respective > geographies would need. hi harish, sending around 100-200 to us would be great :D .. if we need more for a local event/conference , we'll poke :) .. stickers are not going to be outdated like CDs/DVDs ;-) > > Thanks. > -- > Harish Pillay 9v1hp hpillay at redhat.com +65.9636.9253 gpg id: 746809E3 > gpg fingerprint: ? ?F7F5 5CCD 25B9 FC25 303E 3DA2 0F80 27DB 7468 09E3 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From david at gnsa.us Wed Dec 2 18:01:32 2009 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:01:32 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: <20091202150358.GK6707@redhat.com> References: <20091202150358.GK6707@redhat.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Harish Pillay wrote: >> So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia >> have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.10) iEYEARECAAYFAksWq80ACgkQkZOYj+cNI1dirACgkvuuAh2v9P0JKrsQEy231Hi3 OHcAoI+1rPqpTb+sOLcQ/YFiqQHgww/S =wNAz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > In APAC, I am going ahead with making 5,000 pieces of these and I would > therefore suggest that the APAC (India and Asia as in quote above) be > taken out of the numbers Max was proposing. > > APAC Ambassadors, please email me directly on how many your respective > geographies would need. > > Thanks. > -- > Harish Pillay 9v1hp hpillay at redhat.com +65.9636.9253 gpg id: 746809E3 > gpg fingerprint: ? ?F7F5 5CCD 25B9 FC25 303E 3DA2 0F80 27DB 7468 09E3 > > -- Just out of curiosity, what is your cost to produce in APAC? Generally I am all for producing regionally or even locally, but small quantities seem so prohibitive. Though at 5,000 it might be cheaper to make locally than shipping around the world. From shambo.linux at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 17:53:22 2009 From: shambo.linux at gmail.com (Shambo Bose) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 23:23:22 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: References: <20091202150358.GK6707@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Izhar Firdaus wrote: > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Harish Pillay wrote: > >> So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia > >> have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan? > > > > In APAC, I am going ahead with making 5,000 pieces of these and I would > > therefore suggest that the APAC (India and Asia as in quote above) be > > taken out of the numbers Max was proposing. > > > > APAC Ambassadors, please email me directly on how many your respective > > geographies would need. > > hi harish, > > sending around 100-200 to us would be great :D .. if we need more for > a local event/conference , we'll poke :) .. stickers are not going to > be outdated like CDs/DVDs ;-) > > > > > Thanks. > > -- > > Harish Pillay 9v1hp hpillay at redhat.com +65.9636.9253 gpg id: 746809E3 > > gpg fingerprint: F7F5 5CCD 25B9 FC25 303E 3DA2 0F80 27DB 7468 09E3 > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail > Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? > Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus > http://blog.kagesenshi.org > 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > nice !! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From guillermo.gomez at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 20:05:18 2009 From: guillermo.gomez at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Guillermo_G=F3mez?=) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:35:18 -0430 Subject: [Ambassadors] LATAM: What is done, and the real problems that nobody tells In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0912020446h78d10933hd7ed9867b65b4e06@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0912020446h78d10933hd7ed9867b65b4e06@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B16C87E.9000803@gmail.com> Hello fellow ambassadors, i came back from a long time not mailing in this list and i hope its for a good cause. I felt i need to response this one but dont want to engage a long flame. Beyond that, im available for answering your questions. Said that.... We are facing a crisis in latam/ve, and some smiling faces might be hiding just the not so happy truth (over dimension the facts/specially venezuela), specially if they are looking after a seat at FAMSCO. Facts are contributors are low to very low end users and not increasing at all not in fedora-ve mailing list, nor usuarios at proyectofedora.org mailing list at regional level, in fact last year some fedora-ve leaders were acting against a regional consolidation movement to usuarios at proyectofedora.org, as well they did in the past against the wiki content move to higher regional level host under proyectofedora.org domain, documentation is going down in time, quality and usefulness. Plis visit: http://proyectofedora.org/w/index.php?title=Especial:CambiosRecientes&limit=500&days=120 This results for a 120 days period and a limit of 500 changes. U can increase the limit, or days, and you will see what the results are of this new leadership (fighting/passionated/youth style). fedora-ve mailing list stats: http://groups.google.co.ve/group/fedora-ve/about?hl=en Members 545 >> Banned(spammers) 301 = 224 real users (really?) See again the stats, ?do u see any progress in the last year? Maybe this fighting behaviour got some attention and media coverage, i give u that, but is not good for the last and health of the project in time, we are actually facing a disgregation and lot of disputes because of this agressive leadership. Many past contributors are just leaving or just being passive or frustrated because of this "new way" to do things, maybe now "we have more contributors",?but where are the results? (i dont see result but on the news, on the events, on the cds, on the stickers produced, only marketing side, theres no meat behind) I simply dont see them, and simply because there is nothing to show most of the times. I dont see a gracefull exit to the situation with fighters, the new results are, old and well know local/regional stablished contributors are being displaced for new non experienced users and new comers, and excuse me, amateurs, and just because they might won an electi?n, that does not mean they r doing it right, its democratic, but its wrong imho, and my local observations shows me that. I dont see how this leadership is good for latam region (brazil is out this comments), i tried to do something about it, with no success, im sad about that, this mail is probably more for geting your eyes open, if interested, on whats going on down here. I dont expect good responses from some people in my country (venezuela) and their behaviour is really in the edge of not being honest, i dont know its because they want to see something nonexistent so passionatedly, that they actually see it, or just because they r greedy people looking after desperatedly for recognition. Despite the one option you choose, they r both wrong in terms of management for a community (this fighting style might get echo on some other contributors so its a difficult situation for the region). brgds Ing.Guillermo G?mez Savino Venezuela Ambassador El 02/12/09 08:16, Mar?a Leandro escribi?: > Hello to all. > > I'll like to translate to all of you a mail that I have just send to our > local list. Hope my english let you understand what's happening: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Greetings to all > > I think the best way that I will have to answer this is to address the > core issues of this mail. > > 1 .- "We are fighting internally without necessity." (Rodrigo Padula mail) > Rodrigo: The only discussion that was held at the freenode channel > #fedora-ambassadors and the topics were "why LATAM budget (+20.000us ) > represents a problem to help countries other than Brazil and recently > Chile and Argentina. " This topic was discussed with Mr. John Rose, not me. > > 2 .- On the licensing of the wiki: > Rodrigo: This is an issue that is being solved in other thread, and is > not bad to have some protection. Again, I see no problems in the > discussions because things take patiently are solved. > > 3 .- His discussions with me and FAmSCo: (Rodrigo Padula mail) > Rodrigo: I remind you that you didn't do 2 of the 3 steps to FAmSCo. you > didn't sent the questionnaire with the ambassadors questions and did not > attend to any of the Town Hall (sessions for ambassadors to know you > better). All I said was that I worried about this situation... But > apparently you don't want me to join you in FAmSCo. > > 4 .- For the discussion on Channel ... honesty: (Rodrigo Padula mail) > Rodrigo: I apologized for accusing you of that (which really was only > one line of dialogue that said "I go to these channels since I started > with Fedora, you joined them since FAmSCo elections"). Now ... I wish > all my colleagues know that I answered that way because Mr. Rodrigo told > me directly "immature" and "because you act like your President Chavez" > (plus other things a little more offensive) I believe, were worse. > I do not like taking the gossip Rodrigo ... but if you want, I have no > problems. > > 5 .- On the personal relations: (Rodrigo Padula mail) > I think the only one with which I may have a misunderstood is with Mr. > Rodrigo. About the big things that you "talk" that wants to achieve in > LATAM I already have 4 months "working" on those. That I can show to > alll ... Now, that is not enough or that you will look bad, is another > thing... list a few of the things I'm working personally: > * Magazine Latam (we have 15 contributors now) > * Artwork regionalized IN SPANISH (no pt): we have 6 contributors > * Education: we have 5 contributors, starting with the efforts in Argentina. > * Medicine: 2 contributors (Venezuela is a pioneer in this field by > developing medical systems based on fedora) > * Translation: Several videos, guides and tutorials. > * Fedora Mobile: 4 contributors, are developing a distro for mobiles > * Fedora beginners: start developing an app for basic users > > You see, deeds not words > > We need to STOP, BREATHE, carefully read and write more calm!(Rodrigo > Padula mail) > + 1 > > Long live peace! (Rodrigo Padula mail) > > > As a reflection Gentlemen > It's easy to put a +1 where we believe that another person has a good > idea, but how many of you are working on these big ideas? It is time to > act, because I have my conscience clean... all of you too? (those who > are working to ignore this) > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > I'm really tired of this behavier. People acting like contributors > should do things measurable just for one of us and not for all of us. > This was something I was talking with Mel Chua (and now I think you > understand now why I said some things related to this issues) and I, > Mar?a Gracia Leandro, I'm not perfect, I don't have 10 years helping > fedora, but I do know something... I'm here because I want to help, and > I'm doing it (sometimes slowly, yes... but I never stop) and I'm tired > of being stop. > > If this is happening to me, how many times has happened to some other > contributors? are we loosing people because "we don't do what _someone_ > think is right?" > > Like I said in my FAmSCo statement... I'm a fighter, and I'm here to > help people who really need someone to speck things that never are said. > Someone has to... > > Sorry for bring this up, but I really think this was necessary > > > > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- ------------------------ http://www.neotechgw.com http://gomix.fedora-ve.org From szaman at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 3 00:23:49 2009 From: szaman at fedoraproject.org (Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 08:23:49 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <295041390912021623t10a8c1f9j74380c38e5e1a5e6@mail.gmail.com> Nice! I will ask from Harish Pillay for few hundred units. But if the cost of producing it at 5000 units would be much cheaper than creating it per region, I would like to suggest why don't we produce it at one location, and mass ship it to regional Red Hat offices. Then this offices will redistribute to Ambassadors for that region. That should cut the cost of shipping significantly, instead of shipping it to individual Ambassador. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > Hi all, > > In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about > producing more case badges, which look like this: > > http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg > > They are beautiful (IMHO) and the picture doesn't do it justice. What > looks gray in the picture is really silver, and quite shiny. > > Due to the price points around producing these, it would make the most > sense to produce a HUGE amount of badges (5,000 or more even) and shipping > them to key folks around the world. > > From a budget point of view, we'd simply share the cost across regions, >> > when we do the Q4 budget calculations. > > An example of the budget calculations in previous quarters: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses > > So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia > have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan? > > Thanks, > Max > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hpillay at redhat.com Thu Dec 3 00:28:20 2009 From: hpillay at redhat.com (Harish Pillay) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:28:20 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: References: <20091202150358.GK6707@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4B170624.1060703@redhat.com> >>> So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia >>> have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan? >> >> In APAC, I am going ahead with making 5,000 pieces of these and I would >> therefore suggest that the APAC (India and Asia as in quote above) be >> taken out of the numbers Max was proposing. >> >> APAC Ambassadors, please email me directly on how many your respective >> geographies would need. > > Just out of curiosity, what is your cost to produce in APAC? > Generally I am all for producing regionally or even locally, but small > quantities seem so prohibitive. Though at 5,000 it might be cheaper to > make locally than shipping around the world. The quote I got was Singapore 22 cents per piece - about US 15 cents or so. We need to keep the quality especially the colour correct etc so my Red Hat APAC marketing folks here in Singapore are helping to ensure consistency. Harish From smcbrien at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 01:31:43 2009 From: smcbrien at gmail.com (scott mcbrien) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 20:31:43 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting Summary and links. Message-ID: <6c56c38a0912021731m4528636bv3e762e07fe399c3d@mail.gmail.com> Hi everyone, Just wanted to provide a quick summary about the topics of last night's Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting: The big topic was NA swag replenishment, which most of you have probably already seen in the "Case badges for the WHOLE WORLD" e-mail thread. The other topic was NA media production, which is going to be followed up by John Stanley, thanks jds2001! Lastly, I finally got the prototype NA Fedora long sleeve button up shirt: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/ButtonUp Comments welcome. -Scott Here's the link to the Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-02/fedora-meeting.2009-12-02-02.00.html And the complete log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-02/fedora-meeting.2009-12-02-02.00.log.html For searching convenience, below is the full and complete log: 02:00:21 #startmeeting 02:00:21 Meeting started Wed Dec 2 02:00:21 2009 UTC. The chair is StabbyMc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:00:21 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 02:00:34 #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA - Rollcall 02:00:48 .fasinfo jbwillia 02:00:49 VileGent: User: jbwillia, Name: Ben Williams, email: vaioof at yahoo.com, Creation: 2006-04-17, IRC Nick: Southern_Gentleman, Timezone: US/Eastern, Locale: en, Extension: 5100572, GPG key ID: 295A4FBC, Status: active 02:00:53 .fas smcbrien 02:00:53 VileGent: Approved Groups: cla_done ambassadors freemedia cla_fedora gitcourses irc-support-operators 02:00:56 .fas jfsaucier 02:00:57 VileGent: Unapproved Groups: None 02:00:59 .fasinfo mock 02:01:01 StabbyMc: smcbrien '' 02:01:05 djf_jeff: jfsaucier 'Jean-Francois Saucier' 02:01:08 mock: User: mock, Name: None, email: mark at mockgeek.com, Creation: 2008-07-25, IRC Nick: mock, Timezone: None, Locale: None, Extension: 5111336, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 02:01:11 .fasinfo etank 02:01:12 mock: Approved Groups: cla_done cla_fedora 02:01:16 mock: Unapproved Groups: fedorabugs ambassadors 02:01:19 .fas ke4qqq 02:01:25 etank: User: etank, Name: Eric Lake, email: ericlake at gmail.com, Creation: 2009-11-22, IRC Nick: etank, Timezone: America/New_York, Locale: en, Extension: 5140933, GPG key ID: 5A5151D6, Status: active 02:01:28 .fas dnhodgson 02:01:28 etank: Approved Groups: cla_done ambassadors cla_fedora 02:01:32 etank: Unapproved Groups: None 02:01:36 ke4qqq: ke4qqq 'David Nalley' 02:01:40 dnhodgson: dnhodgson 'Darcy Hodgson' 02:02:04 Hi, sorry if I am late 02:02:10 .fas actown 02:02:14 no worries, just doing roll call 02:02:15 Ac-town: actown 'Derrick Dymock' - acactown 'Acac Town' 02:03:13 Any more roll call? 02:03:20 .fas wmorri 02:03:21 Will_: gwmorris 'Gary W. Morris' - wmorri 'William Morris' 02:03:44 I am the second one 02:04:23 #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA - Announcements 02:04:47 The only announcement I've got is that I recieved my twill Fedora buttonup. 02:05:04 I'll be posting pictures later; let the oohs and aahs commence :-) 02:05:30 Anyone else have announcements? 02:05:47 FUDcon is this weekend 02:05:53 still one board and one fesco town hall this week 02:06:19 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections 02:07:30 #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA - Events 02:07:58 So as dnhodgson pointed out, FUDcon this weekend. 02:08:31 I don't know if you all saw lcafiero's e-mail about Scale 02:08:41 But vwbusguy is the owner of that event now. 02:09:10 So probably next meeting we'll be syncing up on what has to be shipped from to where and whatnot for that in January 02:09:18 * inode0 applauds vwbusguy 02:09:38 if we have anything to ship :) 02:10:08 inode0: lets discuss that in "Budget Review" 02:10:09 the V banners are wanted to scale 02:10:53 who has them now? 02:11:09 the west coast crew from SLC? 02:11:25 they are going to FUDCon 02:11:55 jds2001, has them 02:12:32 has them being shipped to FUDCon? 02:12:43 jds2001, has them 02:13:01 and will be carrying them to the bus to fudcon 02:13:33 OK. who's going to be at FUDCon and will ship them to vwbusguy? 02:13:49 VileGent: I will be there 02:14:00 VileGent: i will be personally carrying them 02:14:03 * ke4qqq imagines it'd be cheapest to bring them back across the border and ship them ups 02:14:32 jds2001: can you bring them back and ship 'em? 02:14:35 * inode0 thinks jds2001 should hold on to them in case something else pops up first 02:14:37 probably, when does vwbusguy need em? 02:14:45 feb 02:15:04 oh, yeah, I'll hang on to em til like jan 15 in that case? 02:15:46 Should be good unless something else crops up. 02:16:24 if we talk about events, I will go to a local radio show about free software on Dec 16th to present Fedora, podcast will be available for french speaking people 02:16:38 ;) 02:16:39 Other event news? The Events page is looking pretty slim. 02:16:45 djf_jeff: Nice! 02:17:16 djf_jeff: awesome - lets make sure you blog that in advance and after the fact! 02:18:14 ke4qqq: sure, I will also promote F12 release party that take place Dec 17th in Quebec, good free publicity ;) 02:20:49 #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA - Budget Review. 02:21:31 inode0: so you were saying about having no stuff? 02:22:16 is spevack here tonight? 02:23:11 inode0: you were saying about having no stuff to ship? 02:23:35 * ke4qqq notes we just started a new fiscal quarter and thus new budget cycle 02:23:59 and we essentially reserved enough for the balance of media costs, tshirts, case badges and a few other things 02:24:29 So now it's just a matter of doing the ordering? 02:24:48 sorry, distracted and here we go again 02:24:56 that's my understanding 02:25:09 make sure inode concurs with my memory of things though 02:25:38 i'm here 02:25:41 So do we tag the original orderers to re-order again? 02:25:44 a bit late, but I'm here. sorry! 02:25:52 spevack: just in time. 02:26:28 * spevack reads backward 02:26:44 bottom line -- we need to buy more swag? 02:26:49 Yep 02:27:01 spevack: yeah we talked about what we needed to order a month or two back 02:27:14 CummyFarts: Why don't you? 02:27:27 VileGent: can you address this? 02:27:52 not in here i cant 02:28:16 well we just started the new quarter, so now's the time to buy everything we need 02:28:31 CDs are already taken care of 02:28:39 spend early and spend often :) 02:29:02 what is going on? :P 02:29:04 spevack: what are we looking at for budget? 02:29:14 spevack: we have first rate trolls. 02:29:16 Tabmow: little help? 02:29:21 Tabmow: can you help us out here? we are trying to have a meeting. 02:29:23 spevack: they infested #rhel a few seconds ago 02:29:36 guys /ignore them 02:29:44 Tabmow: thx, you're the best 02:29:54 No problems. 02:30:03 jds2001: this is by no means first-rate trolling 02:30:04 Tabmow: thank you very much. 02:30:12 I give it at best a B- 02:30:43 hi 02:30:47 whay am I needed? 02:30:55 StabbyMc: setting aside the money we've already spent on media, I'd like to figure out how much of what we need $3,500 or so gets us, and then maybe we'll add more budget after Jan 1 when I see how other regions' needs start to shape up. 02:30:57 skvidal: Tabmow took care of it. 02:31:11 so do we have a wishlist of stuff we're ready to buy? 02:31:19 $3,500 tends to go a pretty long way on our swag needs. 02:31:29 Tabmow: Why did you do that? 02:31:29 replacement case badges 02:31:47 inode0: what else was on the list? 02:31:50 tshirts, and casebadges 02:32:00 where does the budget come from? donataions? red hat? etc. 02:32:06 Can I help? 02:32:11 etank: i can answer that 02:32:15 etank: RHT gives to commarch, and commarch gives to us 02:32:20 If you give me some of the swag, I can get you donations. 02:32:42 etank: Red Hat's Community Architecture team has a bunch of budget for building communities that are important to Red Hat. Fedora is obviously at the top of that list. 02:32:52 ObamasTheMan: thanks for the offer, I'll chat with you after the meeting, k? 02:33:27 I'm the manager of that team, and one of the things I do each quarter is set aside a chunk of the CommArch budget for big Fedora events -- like FUDCons and Fedora Activity Days -- and another chunk for general regional support worldwide. 02:33:32 That's what we're discussing now, 02:33:36 for some history and context, see here: 02:33:42 I have to go now, sorry. There's a Pakistani trying to kill me. 02:33:56 etank: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Accounting 02:34:09 thanks for filling me in spevack. it helps me understand whats going on some. 02:34:44 I want to know if there could be some discussion about budget for a Canadian EventBox in the near future? 02:34:44 etank: more specifically -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget 02:35:13 djf_jeff: I've got no problem with that. 02:35:22 djf_jeff: can we get that ordered during fudcon? 02:35:44 StabbyMc: I'd like to spend around $8k total in NA this quarter. 02:35:50 at least as a starting point 02:35:51 lots of commarch plastic should be close at hand to help you 02:35:57 :) 02:36:05 there was some talk on the mailing list about not doing install DVDs. how does that get decided? what is the cost associated with the DVD creation and where would the money be spent if not on their creation? 02:36:06 ke4qqq: that would be nice for me! 02:36:25 etank: these decisions are discussed and made at this very meeting, or on the fedora-ambassadors-list 02:36:39 etank: media is made regionally, so each region decides that 02:36:41 some of it has to do with demand -- what sorts of media people ask for 02:36:46 spevack: and by this quarter you mean Q4FY10 which started today? 02:36:51 StabbyMc: that's right. 02:37:20 * spevack wants to start building up that budget page for this quarter. 02:37:26 * spevack looks up the cost of the media 02:37:45 media wasn't paid Q3? 02:37:52 May I interject one comment about case badges? 02:37:54 or out of Q3 budget? 02:38:03 inode0: please 02:38:33 There is a horrific startup cost on those with a tipping point at around $1000 02:38:50 then the price gets cheap and constant 02:38:51 StabbyMc: it was not. Q3 was filled up with other regions, so media is being done in this quarter. It won't be a problem though, I assure you. 02:39:20 spevack: no worries, just a little confused :-) 02:39:24 so basically they work out to about $1 each for the first 1000 and then about 10 cents each after that 02:39:37 inode0: could the budget for case badges be shared amongst the other regions to get the numbers up and the price down? 02:39:59 * spevack looks at the previous years 02:40:04 so I would encourage us to try to plan case badge purchases in higher volume less regularly 02:40:14 last year we split the Fedora 10 media costs across Q4 and Q1! 02:40:17 inode0: Are those case badges high quality? 02:40:24 very high 02:40:29 Ac-town: they're nice. 02:40:39 Like ones you get with your mobo? 02:40:42 so we've spent about $4k on media. Which means we should put together a shopping list in order of desire, and spend up to another $4k, then take stock of where we are in relation to other regions. 02:40:48 the case badges are REALLY NICE 02:40:49 Ac-town: yes. 02:40:50 i was blown away 02:40:52 +1 02:40:59 the case badges are the "powered by Fedora" one inch badges right? 02:41:12 etank: yes 02:41:13 inode0: +1 02:41:43 i still have some case badges around. 02:41:50 im gonna bring what ive got to fudcon 02:42:01 jds2001: don't tell anyone, virtually none are left :) 02:42:06 inode0: so are you wanting to go heavy into case badges this quarter, add a couple of tees, and then order other new swag items in following quarters to round out supply? 02:42:07 minus the f11 media that's fairly useless :) 02:42:09 spevack: etank asked a great question 02:42:31 would other regions like to piggy-bag on a case badge order you think? 02:42:40 piggy-back 02:42:42 There's an EMEA ambassadors meeting tomorrow -- if someone posts a digital picture of the badges we can recommend making a Giant Amount and sharing the cost. just as etank suggested 02:42:48 my guess is there would be no objection at all 02:43:04 inode0: you have some pics of them right? 02:43:17 spevack: and we'd just withhold their amount from the quarterly payment to fedora emea? 02:43:22 I'm getting a 403 now 02:43:27 s/we'd/you'd/ 02:43:47 ke4qqq: yeah, I'd just tag some amount of that total cost w/ EMEA and that would show up when I add up the totals per region 02:44:20 and would latam be interested as well 02:44:43 * spevack emails ambassadors-list with this question. 02:44:50 +1 02:45:10 Can we get a price quote for something like 5,000? 02:45:26 we want more than that actually 02:45:32 well, whatever :) 02:45:38 it helps that they are light and thus cheap to ship 02:45:47 So that turns us back to my earlier question about replenishment. 02:45:59 iirc they are about $1000 for the first 1000, the next 3000 cost about $300 more 02:46:12 Do we get davidunc to do the order again, or does someone else take care of it or what? 02:46:32 I'd like to pay that initial $1000 a lot less often 02:46:43 inode0: haha 02:46:48 yeah, we should buy a LOT 02:46:54 it would be nice if the company that they are ordered from would split the shippment up into each region and ship directly to a contact there 02:47:00 * spevack is laughing at the mental graph of that pricing structure 02:47:13 etank: if we give them the right addresses, I'm sure they will 02:47:27 that could save more costs at least 02:47:27 etank: that has historically ended badly for us 02:47:32 Yeah, the initial $1000 is painful. 02:47:44 So in theory we can about 10k badges for $2k, inode? 02:47:44 etank: we end up paying either way - they charge us shipping or we absorb it later 02:47:50 ke4qqq: yeah i could see some room for error and headaches 02:48:09 inode0: more or less... 02:48:11 I think so, if we get the same arrangement as last time 02:48:14 so for 3k we would have about 21K 02:48:15 and those badges have been INCREDIBLY popular 02:48:27 well, then we should basically buy a year's supply for the whole world. 02:48:40 right? 02:48:42 +1 to a year of case badges for THE WORLD 02:48:48 +1 02:48:53 +1 ;) 02:49:06 So who's owning case badge pricing, ordering, shipping, etc. ? 02:49:07 +1 02:49:34 I'd prefer david duncan, or someone new, but failing either of those I will. 02:49:45 who did it the first time? It should be that person and me working together 02:49:57 davdunc 02:50:53 davdunc who is not here tonight. 02:50:55 ok, give me the action items of (1) getting a +1 from the rest of the ambassadors, which is pretty much a formality, (2) finding davdunc and either (3) working with him or (4) calling the company myself and seeing if they still have our specs 02:51:23 spevack: davdunc is on the Events page with an event in January, so he's still around. 02:51:47 cool -- I'll try to make most of this happen before heading to toronto, otherwise I'll do it at FUDCon 02:51:54 email is best contact for him, he's pretty responsive, just not on irc because of $dayjob net restrictions 02:52:13 sounds good 02:52:15 easy as pie 02:52:37 slight correction 02:52:38 he was Last seen : Nov 11 06:27:11 2009 (2 weeks, 6 days, 20:24:52 ago) 02:53:00 #action spevack works on case badges (1) conglomerating world wide ordering for badges (2) working with davdunc for ordering (3) ordering 02:53:09 I think they were $180/1000 after the first 1000 but the same idea 02:53:38 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget 02:53:43 * spevack starts a list on that page 02:53:51 Tee shirts? 02:53:55 we got those from New Mexico, davdunc was the tattoo man who we don't need to bother again yet 02:54:28 * ke4qqq thought StabbyMc was the tats man - ohhh well what do I know 02:54:30 personally I could wait for Q1 for case badges if that enables a bigger order 02:54:35 inode0: ok the casebadge person nick started with a t? 02:54:50 ke4qqq: I'm the pen guy. 02:54:52 dthomasdigital iirc was his nick 02:55:00 inode0: especially sharing the cost across regions, I don't think there's any need to wait. 02:55:01 ayah. 02:55:11 ok 02:55:11 .fas dthomasdigital 02:55:12 StabbyMc: dthomasdigital '' 02:55:15 * spevack is getting a phone call that he needs to take. Will read backwards in a bit. 02:55:23 assuming he can do it again 02:55:36 yep, but spevack said he'd look him up. 02:55:47 Are we putting tees on the wishlist too? 02:55:48 anyone new want to take up the tshirt replenishment? 02:56:17 does DemonJester want to relinquish doing that? 02:56:48 just thinking we should share the tasklist around a bit. 02:56:49 There is a company up here in Canada i have worked with on clothing. i can look into pricing 02:56:59 * maxamillion is ultra late ... very sorry, just got home 02:57:16 maxamillion: we're still talking budget 02:57:33 maxamillion: YOU have all the action items :D 02:57:50 jds2001: oh noes! 02:57:57 StabbyMc: wow, nice 02:58:15 StabbyMc: where was that on the list of topics for the meeting? 02:58:29 maxamillion Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note that meetings often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please ask in #fedora | See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel for meeting schedule 02:58:36 damn, I fail 02:58:52 yes .. yes you do 02:58:56 I am sure maxamillion needed to know that 02:58:57 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-12-1 02:59:16 * StabbyMc blames paste buffer 02:59:59 dnhodgson: I wouldn't mind seeing pricing; though in the past the international shipping has killed the budget. 03:00:36 there is also a couple of companies up where I live that I could talk to about prices 03:00:39 dnhodgson: and even if we produce in US, doesn't mean you can't do it - our traditional supplier just bills max 03:01:24 for shirts here is the thing from my perspective 03:02:01 I think it is more efficient with a lot less duplicated effort if once we have a supplier and process identified that works and that we are happy with we stick with it 03:02:12 inode0: +1 03:02:14 * spevack agrees 03:02:18 +1 - unless there is a significant advantage to moving away 03:02:20 the shirt supplier is on the wiki *somewhere* 03:02:30 stick with people until we become unhappy for an unfixable reason 03:02:35 however, with the current economic conditions, there are deals to be had. 03:02:35 So unless someone can beat the current prices we pay I think we are better off staying with the same supplier 03:02:37 is there possibly an online retailer that would be more cost effective than a local one? 03:02:50 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/AmbassadorVendors#North_America 03:03:07 ian-shirts or older white shirt with logo? 03:03:30 *erhemm* 03:03:34 the correct name is "splatter"> 03:03:43 ;) 03:03:44 * inode0 doesn't mind others investigating options if they want to 03:03:58 I like the splatter shirts, but I know they're much more expensive to produce. 03:04:24 I also have a slight preference to go back to the white shirts this time around because we can get a lot more for the same price 03:04:26 * ke4qqq <3 my ian-shirt 03:04:56 the splatter shirts are the coolest Fedora shirts ever 03:05:06 is the price difference because of the shirt color or because of the screen print cost? 03:05:13 but they are also the most expensive 03:05:15 inode0: I actually wear my splatter shirt. The white ones I gave them all away. 03:05:29 6 times through the machine as opposed to 3 as I recall 03:05:37 maxamillion: splatter has more screened colors 03:06:03 anyone have a pic of the shirts being discussed? 03:06:13 think about it from the perspective of random conference attendee 03:06:22 does that person care as much as we do? 03:06:47 StabbyMc: gotchya 03:07:05 etank: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Artwork_T(2d)Shirt_ianweller_fedora_splatter_shirt_preview.png 03:07:06 inode0: I agree they won't care as much 03:07:26 I keep my white one and wear it when i give talks, but every shirt I own is a dark color because I seem to stain white shirts like crazy 03:07:32 (well almost every shirt I own) 03:07:38 StabbyMc: that is a nice one 03:07:40 i can tell you that they rather have a shirt than no shirt 03:08:03 http://fedorapeople.org/~inode0/swag/fedora-case-badges.jpg 03:08:04 i think i remember seeing the white ones at OLF in 2008 (they didnt give me one though) 03:08:08 from my experience at Ohio Linuxfest last year 03:08:09 i need to go. will catch up on meeting notes later. 03:08:20 StabbyMc: ooo the splatter t-shirt is awesome 03:08:22 * inode0 doesn't think that is supposed to be the url but it is what works at the moment 03:08:47 VileGent: i think that getting shirts is one of the main reason that some people go to OLF 03:09:01 inode0: I do really like the idea of case badges ... did I miss the convo on those due to my tardiness? 03:09:12 yes 03:09:23 maxamillion: we are ordering case badges for the ENTIRE WORLD 03:09:23 http://inode0.fedorapeople.org/swag/fedora-case-badges.jpg <- better url 03:09:25 fail ... ok, I'll read the logs then 03:09:31 ke4qqq: +1 :) 03:09:49 etank we didnt have any in 2009 and still had lots of traffic 03:10:07 what about other swag? 03:10:18 we probably have 1000 pens 03:10:30 should we order more buttons? 03:10:34 cost? 03:10:36 oh love my pen, actually sparked a convo with someone in one of my graduate comp sci courses 03:10:37 * StabbyMc is meh about buttons 03:10:42 because of the pen* 03:10:56 StabbyMc, but they seem popular 03:10:57 * StabbyMc would like a nice vynl sticker 03:11:01 my pens keep getting stolen by IT colleagues. 03:11:08 * ke4qqq would like a cling 03:11:09 I like my buttons, they are crowd pleasers for talks and easily attach to backpacks and other forms of book bag 03:11:14 * etank would like to have a mousepad 03:11:27 mousepads would be nice, but I imagine they would be expensive 03:11:28 arent mousepads expensive? 03:11:32 prolly too expensive 03:11:32 yes 03:11:45 ok, what we would like is one thing. What is popular at a booth? 03:11:46 still would be cool to have 03:12:03 case badges 03:12:26 we have those covered 03:12:26 how about patches? like ones that can be sewed to backpacks. 03:12:26 +1 case badges and shirts 03:12:26 pens 03:12:26 tees 03:12:26 stickers 03:12:45 StabbyMc: +1, +1, +1 03:13:06 shirts are huge imo. those plus the case badges would be a big hit. 03:13:12 case badges, tshirts, 3" voice label , rectangle Fedora sticker, tats 03:13:14 dnhodgson: those are spendy unless ordered in super huge bulk. 03:13:28 dnhodgson: etank: work up proposals for what you'd like to see, hard to make a decision without knowing the cost. 03:13:34 thats what i see as popular from the 2 shows i help with 03:13:59 fedora cookies too :) 03:14:06 I was working on clings, but put it on hold until I got the button-up shirt done 03:14:12 So I'll start up on clings again. 03:14:27 ke4qqq: more than what i said a sec ago? 03:14:29 etank: i think case badges would be quite good as well 03:14:35 #action dnhodgson works up pricing on replenishment tee shirts 03:14:46 can we stop talking about case badges now? 03:14:49 #action StabbyMc gets pricing for window clings 03:15:04 etank: uhhh yeah - get us varying quantities and prices, preferably from at least two vendors.....plus artwork for the design. 03:15:20 artwork for tees we have 03:15:24 etank: you should act like you are coming to us asking for the money to do it..... 03:15:30 because you are 03:15:33 clings I've got the Finity 03:16:00 ideas are great - but someone actually has to do the legwork. 03:16:24 It's been an hour + 15 and we still haven't gotten to the big topic, or at least big topic IMO. 03:16:25 and then place the order 03:16:38 +1 for moving to the topic 03:16:48 StabbyMc: what's a window cling? 03:17:47 #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA - Discussion Item Media Production 03:17:55 maxamillion: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+a+window+cling 03:18:05 ke4qqq: yeah yeah, already there ... but thanks :) 03:18:12 :) 03:18:35 StabbyMc: are we looking for a decision on this tonight? 03:18:50 ke4qqq: I'd like one 03:19:07 ke4qqq: though I'd be ok with tabling until next meeting too since it's getting so late. 03:19:13 But the topic keeps coming back. 03:19:21 So I'd like to finally put a nail in it and be done. 03:19:33 Well we can't really put a nail in it 03:19:43 why not? 03:19:49 What if F13 only has DVDs + netinst? 03:20:04 it will have livecd's 03:20:09 that's the point :) 03:20:18 will it have livedvds? 03:20:29 ke4qqq: it may, i see what you mean 03:20:30 ie - more content on the live media we produce 03:20:40 bah s/ie/eg/ 03:20:45 I don't know what it will have but in a nutshell 03:20:47 * jds2001 was thinking more "live media" 03:21:00 I favor producing only live media for distribution at shows 03:21:01 i am +1 for creating only live media, be that CD or DVD. 03:21:24 me thinks we should decide livemedia vs cd vs dvd and then ask fesco or releng to decide livecd vs livedvd 03:21:29 I'd like a media that can be either 03:21:47 StabbyMc: that would be great, huh? :) 03:21:48 StabbyMc: livedvd + netinst? 03:22:01 actually not a bad idea. 03:22:20 i think untill we know what exactly is going to happen we really cant tell 03:22:20 I suspect he meant live+install DVD 03:22:29 there was discussion on desktop list that led me to believe live CD is dead and that install image will be > 1G, most likely targetting a 2 G USB drive 03:22:30 two different boot targets to either boot into the livedvd or netinst 03:22:42 ooo, I do like the liveCD + netinstall idea 03:22:58 i raised the livecd issue and a few people said it would be a live dvd instead 03:23:02 can't one netinst from a liveCD now? 03:23:04 why would you do a netinst when you have the complete dvd with you? 03:23:11 I wonder how much space that would take up from the livecd 03:23:12 we would actually have room to do that on a dvd, we just need releng to tell us how feasible that is. 03:23:12 * ke4qqq suggests we tell fesco that we are considering only doing livemedia and that livemedia+netinst on a single iso would be cool, or livedvd and to figure out what the future will be for f13 and make a decision after they respond 03:23:17 +1 livemedia only for distrubuteing at shows 03:23:19 maxamillion: about 200mb 03:23:36 jds2001: oh ... damn 03:23:49 maxamillion: unacceptable for a livecd, but when you have dvd space to play with, it's fine 03:23:55 liveDVD is fine, it costs more but the point is to not produce 3 difference sorts of media really 03:23:56 jds2001: true 03:24:04 inode0: +1 03:24:05 and to produce what is most useful at shows 03:24:14 inode0: next decide on 32-bit vs. 64-bit 03:24:16 :) 03:24:20 my big complaint with live only is that I like to install, with all my options; if I've gone to the trouble of getting media at a show, I should be able to have a nifty install, not just live distro copied to my disk. 03:24:42 StabbyMc: that would be the netinst boot option 03:24:48 StabbyMc: does netinst solve that for you? 03:24:48 StabbyMc: that's what the netinst is for 03:24:48 now 32 and 64 can be merged, but I don't know if it will be 03:25:09 inode0: if we go liveDVD I think we should be able to 03:25:11 motions to table 03:25:12 jds2001: is that a decision we'd ask fesco to make or releng? 03:25:22 ke4qqq: both :) 03:25:30 ke4qqq: might even include the desktop team 03:25:32 * ke4qqq seconds VileGent's motion but referring the 'what will happen question' to fesco 03:25:33 i suppose netinst would solve that, unless I could install off of a local disk based repo *hint* *hint* 03:25:38 they have a different target audience 03:25:49 StabbyMc: why couldnt you with netinst? 03:25:53 we can explain our audience, but don't expect ours to carry the day 03:26:01 inode0: rgr that 03:26:06 require some boot incantations, but i think it'd work. 03:26:33 jds2001: netinst requires net to inst. 03:26:49 * ke4qqq also suggests we consider offering kde livemedia since we are dropping one form of media with this proposal. 03:26:55 i think you can pass repo= to anaconda 03:27:02 netinst has a full stage2 03:27:14 ke4qqq: but that would now make 2 forms of media ... a gnome and a kde 03:27:14 * inode0 wants to comment on KDE media 03:27:28 maxamillion: indeed 03:27:32 which would be counter productive in my opinion considering the goal 03:27:55 thinks it might be worth an experiment to try, but has seen no demand for it at conferences and has not heard of any demand from anyone else 03:28:06 same here 03:28:19 so we used to do x86 live and install and x86_64 live and install - we could potentially do x86 gnome livedvd+netinst and x86_64 gnome livedvd+netinst and x86 kde...... etc 03:28:39 so I also wouldn't object to not producing KDE live media either 03:28:43 * ke4qqq thinks it is schroedingers cat 03:28:54 And yet we want to only produce one disk, yes? 03:28:58 people ask for other things 03:29:03 StabbyMc: bingo 03:29:10 I don't know - but we have a number of people who are 'doing the work' who are interested in it. 03:29:36 well, we can decide what live media much later 03:29:38 ke4qqq: doing what work? 03:29:55 maxamillion: contributing to fedora 03:29:57 assuming we decide only live media to begin with 03:30:04 yeah lots of assumptions 03:30:12 ke4qqq: ah, ok .. i thought you meant something more specific and i wasn't familiar with the scope of the work 03:30:21 don't mind me 03:30:24 we could adopt the theory that we just do it for F13 and see what happens. 03:30:39 perhaps we should change just a single thing at a time 03:30:46 people will take whatever is on the table is what will happen 03:31:05 I'm cool as long as I can get a real install off of whatever media is produced. 03:31:19 so if that works for x86 live, I vote for that. 03:31:36 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Swag_vendors 03:31:36 so what's the action item from this??? can we send jds2001 to get fesco to prognosticate for us? 03:31:56 * jds2001 is not on fesco for much longer :) 03:32:08 though I am certaintly willing to interface with them :) 03:32:09 * StabbyMc slaps jds2001 with a lame duck! 03:32:15 I would say x86 live and install is wildly popular at shows, x86_64 still much less 03:32:32 but hasn't fesco said we want to promote 64bit? 03:32:35 In freemedia almost no requests for live media and few for x86_64 as well 03:32:56 recent conversations aside - isn't freemedia a different market 03:33:20 yes, we wouldn't expect live media requests there 03:33:58 ke4qqq, put isnt that the same type of market as the shows 03:34:29 VileGent: I don't think so - I don't think con attendees lack adequate bandwidth generally. 03:34:36 I also think them more likely to have 64 bit hardware 03:34:51 but that's just a rough feel - inode0 actually has numbers to put with it 03:34:58 from the freemedia side 03:35:58 I can just estimate that the requests I see in north america from free media are probably 10 or 20 x86 DVD for each other request 03:36:00 ke4qqq, at OLF live media then 32bit install moved faster same at SELF 03:36:36 that is my conference experience too 03:37:12 so my opinion we do 32 bit 03:37:28 * maxamillion has never been to a conference so will mostly keep quiet on this topic 03:37:34 and look at this again on the next release 03:37:44 I'm against doing the install DVD because I think very few people ever use them from conferences 03:37:53 and the few who do could download it 03:38:14 So we're positing for F13 that we only produce x86 live media 03:38:20 ? 03:38:35 I wasn't thinking that 03:38:48 StabbyMc: /me votes to send the question as to what type of isos fedora will have - and specifically ask for livedvd + netinst for f13 03:38:50 in fact, I hope the live media for F13 is dual arch 03:39:32 so forgive me, I am old and tired. 03:39:33 and ask for inode0's dual arch livedvds 03:39:34 ask for dual arch too, that would save us money :) 03:39:50 i think dual arch would be a lot of fun 03:39:53 do we have an action item out of all this? 03:39:59 sure 03:40:01 If so, what is it and who is going to take it? 03:40:04 and it makes it simple for the user, they don't have to choose 03:40:10 ask releng about the concievability of livedvd+netinst 03:40:20 may require some code to livecd-tools 03:40:44 and i will take that action 03:40:55 jds2001: can you broach dual arch live media as well? 03:41:02 sure thing 03:41:11 * ke4qqq votes we table til we hear back from jds2001 03:41:21 second 03:41:30 if we are going to roughly 1GB DVDs dual arch should be doable :) 03:41:47 huh??? 03:42:29 VileGent: You seem a little lost 03:42:59 we could do 2GB squashimages each, and netinst and be ok on a single dvd - maybe 03:43:47 we'll have to test it and see ... only one way to really know :) 03:43:58 so are we done? 03:44:46 I vote yes :) 03:46:31 agrees with maxamillion :) 03:54:12 rgr 03:54:20 laters all :) 03:54:26 #endmeeting From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 01:57:13 2009 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 17:57:13 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting Summary and links. In-Reply-To: <6c56c38a0912021731m4528636bv3e762e07fe399c3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c56c38a0912021731m4528636bv3e762e07fe399c3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7a0d56080912021757p689023ffx87b790f9fb1f0415@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:31 PM, scott mcbrien wrote: > > > Lastly, I finally got the prototype NA Fedora long sleeve button up shirt: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/ButtonUp > Comments welcome. > I'll take a dozen. Looks great. Larry Cafiero -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pcalarco at nd.edu Thu Dec 3 02:06:53 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 21:06:53 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting Summary and links. In-Reply-To: <6c56c38a0912021731m4528636bv3e762e07fe399c3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c56c38a0912021731m4528636bv3e762e07fe399c3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7936B5FE0FA08649B9E2969E1CF5671401AF765D3A@ICE-MBX-4.ice.nd.edu> ________________________________________ From: fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com [fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of scott mcbrien [smcbrien at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:31 PM To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting Summary and links. - snip - Lastly, I finally got the prototype NA Fedora long sleeve button up shirt: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/ButtonUp Comments welcome. -Scott Scott, these look beautiful! Great work, these will be very popular! When can we start ordering? - pascal From smcbrien at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 02:16:22 2009 From: smcbrien at gmail.com (scott mcbrien) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 21:16:22 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting Summary and links. In-Reply-To: <7936B5FE0FA08649B9E2969E1CF5671401AF765D3A@ICE-MBX-4.ice.nd.edu> References: <6c56c38a0912021731m4528636bv3e762e07fe399c3d@mail.gmail.com> <7936B5FE0FA08649B9E2969E1CF5671401AF765D3A@ICE-MBX-4.ice.nd.edu> Message-ID: <6c56c38a0912021816o2755258fmc1879fa895cf0acf@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Pascal Calarco wrote: > ________________________________________ > From: fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com [fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of scott mcbrien [smcbrien at gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:31 PM > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting Summary and links. > > - snip - > > Lastly, I finally got the prototype NA Fedora long sleeve button up shirt: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/ButtonUp > Comments welcome. > > -Scott > > Scott, these look beautiful! ?Great work, these will be very popular! ?When can we start ordering? > > ?- pascal Pascal, I think we're just going to order direct from the manufacturer, though if we get enough people interested, we might be able to qualify for better pricing. I can put it on the agenda for the next meeting in 2 weeks. -Scott From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Thu Dec 3 02:20:12 2009 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:20:12 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] LATAM: What is done, and the real problems that nobody tells In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0912020446h78d10933hd7ed9867b65b4e06@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0912020446h78d10933hd7ed9867b65b4e06@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B17205C.5030203@projetofedora.org> Guys, sorry by this kind of email, but the tatica's words deserve a response! Em 02-12-2009 10:46, Mar?a Leandro escreveu: > Hello to all. > > I'll like to translate to all of you a mail that I have just send to our > local list. Hope my english let you understand what's happening: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Greetings to all > > I think the best way that I will have to answer this is to address the > core issues of this mail. > > 1 .- "We are fighting internally without necessity." (Rodrigo Padula mail) > Rodrigo: The only discussion that was held at the freenode channel > #fedora-ambassadors and the topics were "why LATAM budget (+20.000us ) > represents a problem to help countries other than Brazil and recently > Chile and Argentina. " This topic was discussed with Mr. John Rose, not me. I really don't know what is the purpose of your email. I think you are very interested to create a bad view of my person here. We are not competitors, we are members of the same project with the same goals! Max can explain better than me how the budget is used and all difficulties that we have to expend money in Latam and around the world. Probably you are thinking that all budget sent from Fedora was sent to my personal account and I'm travelling and drinking some beers with that money, but it isn't true! All budget was sent to Red Hat Latam and all money was spend with my local manager approval and coordination. > 2 .- On the licensing of the wiki: > Rodrigo: This is an issue that is being solved in other thread, and is > not bad to have some protection. Again, I see no problems in the > discussions because things take patiently are solved. LOL!! Again, I cant understand the purpose of this email. The content that you copied and pasted in the Latam wiki ( non-official wiki/content) have to be defined and organized with the author not with all ambassadors-list. Some people here is working hard and this kind of email isn't good to send to all people here! Immature decision again! > 3 .- His discussions with me and FAmSCo: (Rodrigo Padula mail) > Rodrigo: I remind you that you didn't do 2 of the 3 steps to FAmSCo. you > didn't sent the questionnaire with the ambassadors questions and did not > attend to any of the Town Hall (sessions for ambassadors to know you > better). All I said was that I worried about this situation... But > apparently you don't want me to join you in FAmSCo. I was travelling for 2 events ( Fedora 12 - Official Brazilian Release), without Internet in my hotel. During one of this events I had a long time conversation with Corinto Mefe (Brazilian Gov - http://www.softwarepublico.gov.br/ ) about the Brazilian Fedora Education project and probably we will receive support from the Brazilian Government to develop and increase that project (Teach with Fedora and Free Software), so, some things are more important to me than a Town Hall and a FAMSCO seat! While you are editing your new picture for your 365/Project I'm planning events and strategies to spread fedora and to improve the ambassadors collaboration. When I go to an event, I go by Fedora not to auto-promotion or to tell how Gimp works fine and have great effects to apply in my own photos!! I travel to events to talk about Fedora, to spread the idea, to recruit new members to improve the participation of fedora in the local Free Software movement! I go there do to what I love to do and what I'm doing since 2005!! Guys like Diego(transifex developer), Jayme(design team), Igor(Translation pt_BR Leader and BrOffice spin), Allisson(Packager) and many others Brazilian and Latam ambassadors and leaders was invited in events and supported by me to stay here to work hard for Fedora. We have now a great team here because we are good friends, we are a family that help ideas to grow and resolve problems in a mature way! > 4 .- For the discussion on Channel ... honesty: (Rodrigo Padula mail) > Rodrigo: I apologized for accusing you of that (which really was only > one line of dialogue that said "I go to these channels since I started > with Fedora, you joined them since FAmSCo elections"). Now ... I wish > all my colleagues know that I answered that way because Mr. Rodrigo told > me directly "immature" and "because you act like your President Chavez" > (plus other things a little more offensive) I believe, were worse. > I do not like taking the gossip Rodrigo ... but if you want, I have no > problems. I know that a FAMSCO seat and the auto-promotion (like the the 365/Project) are more important to you, more important than the friendship that we had constructed by years working together with the same goals! Don't worry about it! You can receive a lot of votes and take my seat at FAMSCO. I dont need to be there to do my job, and I think you don't need too. With this kind of email you are confirming my thesis that how immature you are, disturbing all the ambassadors with that. You are fighting against me but we are in the same team, remember ? > 5 .- On the personal relations: (Rodrigo Padula mail) > I think the only one with which I may have a misunderstood is with Mr. > Rodrigo. About the big things that you "talk" that wants to achieve in > LATAM I already have 4 months "working" on those. That I can show to > alll ... Now, that is not enough or that you will look bad, is another > thing... list a few of the things I'm working personally: Weird, we have a Latam list with all latam ambassadors/contributors and all that you wrote here for me and many Latam ambasadors are big great news. These projects are TOP SERCRETS ?? Compete and show what I'm doing and what are you doing for me it's very immature. But ok, how competitive you are! If you need numbers, I will show you some numbers!! I will not mention ideas or numbers of contributors, I will talk about results! I recommend all ambassadors to read it http://www.rodrigopadula.com/?p=218 and download the presentation http://www.rodrigopadula.com/preso.odp We can see the difference between my team (Brazil) and your big Venezuelan Team looking the graphics and the big growth based on all your efforts. The first ambassador from Venezuela ( Guillermo Gomes - gomix ), one of the first of the World, the guy that had made a lot of documentation in Spanish and was the main latam's wiki maintainer though many times in left the project by the constants fights from you and your greats ideas to spread Fedora in Venezuela. > * Magazine Latam (we have 15 contributors now) You have 5 contributors, we have 5 editions published + many articles published in printed magazines in Brasil and many others around the World. Take a look here to learn with us http://www.projetofedora.org/Revista (We are working in your great new idea by many Fedora releases). > * Artwork regionalized IN SPANISH (no pt): we have 6 contributors Ohhh great!! Take a look here in our artwork repository to learn something about Gimp and Inkscape with Jayme http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/ > * Education: we have 5 contributors, starting with the efforts in Argentina. Good, this project in my opinion is the most important of Fedora and we need more contributors around the world!! EDUCATION IS THE BEST WAY TO INCREASE OUR CULTURE AND TO DEVELOP UNDEVELOPED COUNTRIES, but not in a competitive way, we need to work together, to collaborate/cooperate! While are you starting with 5 contributors we have a spin done, many cataloged softwares + support from the Brazilian Gov and many universities interested to participate into this idea/area. > * Medicine: 2 contributors (Venezuela is a pioneer in this field by > developing medical systems based on fedora) Great! What is Done ? We have many contributors to help you here :-) > * Translation: Several videos, guides and tutorials. Great it will help us a lot, in Brazil we have a lot too, not only translated but created by our group. Just take a look here: http://www.vimeo.com/user1676127/videos > * Fedora Mobile: 4 contributors, are developing a distro for mobiles Sure? I would like to see the results. What kind of mobiles ? I think your "group" can work with these guys here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/FedoraMini > * Fedora beginners: start developing an app for basic users What kind of apps ?? I think all people here are very interested in this issue. Here we have a LUG for each Brazilian state, with ~7.500 registered users in our forum http://www.projetofedora.org/forum/ testing, reporting bugs and helping new users. Take a look here too: http://easylifeproject.org/ > You see, deeds not words For me... more words/ideas than real deeds! > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > I cant write more... sorry, you are creating a situation that I dont like to handle!!! I am very angry and hurt by it! For me it's enough! -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From steven at sjdsoft.hk Thu Dec 3 02:42:02 2009 From: steven at sjdsoft.hk (Steven James Drinnan) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:42:02 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting Summary and links. In-Reply-To: <6c56c38a0912021816o2755258fmc1879fa895cf0acf@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c56c38a0912021731m4528636bv3e762e07fe399c3d@mail.gmail.com> <7936B5FE0FA08649B9E2969E1CF5671401AF765D3A@ICE-MBX-4.ice.nd.edu> <6c56c38a0912021816o2755258fmc1879fa895cf0acf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1259808122.4362.33.camel@mylaptop.myhome> On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 21:16 -0500, scott mcbrien wrote: > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Pascal Calarco wrote: > > ________________________________________ > > From: fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com [fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of scott mcbrien [smcbrien at gmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:31 PM > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting Summary and links. > > > > - snip - > > > > Lastly, I finally got the prototype NA Fedora long sleeve button up shirt: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/ButtonUp > > Comments welcome. > > > > -Scott > > > > Scott, these look beautiful! Great work, these will be very popular! When can we start ordering? > > > > - pascal > > Pascal, > > I think we're just going to order direct from the manufacturer, though > if we get enough people interested, we might be able to qualify for > better pricing. I can put it on the agenda for the next meeting in 2 > weeks. > > -Scott > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > I second that they look good, But on the price side I maybe able to get the price down. I have been a merchandiser in Hong Kong and can quickly get factories in China and control the quality and of course, price. If you would like to get me to do some shopping for prices before the next meeting let me know. Steven -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From stickster at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 02:52:38 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 21:52:38 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] LATAM: What is done, and the real problems that nobody tells In-Reply-To: <4B17205C.5030203@projetofedora.org> References: <27a6293b0912020446h78d10933hd7ed9867b65b4e06@mail.gmail.com> <4B17205C.5030203@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <20091203025238.GU3563@victoria.internal.frields.org> The disagreement that is motivating this discussion is obviously a problem we need to address. Max Spevack and I are looking into it and talking to some of the people involved. Until we have a better idea what the problems are and how to solve them, I would like this thread to be considered closed. Normally I would not make such a statement, but in its current state this thread isn't likely to lead to constructive solutions. Please do not respond further here. Thanks. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From tatica at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 3 12:35:53 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 08:05:53 -0430 Subject: [Ambassadors] LATAM: What is done, and the real problems that nobody tells In-Reply-To: <20091203025238.GU3563@victoria.internal.frields.org> References: <27a6293b0912020446h78d10933hd7ed9867b65b4e06@mail.gmail.com> <4B17205C.5030203@projetofedora.org> <20091203025238.GU3563@victoria.internal.frields.org> Message-ID: <27a6293b0912030435x2a6ebb93ue1782d4075afdc2@mail.gmail.com> I agree with you Paul. Venezuela issue is something that we talk privately and wasn't related to this mail thread. If Max want to share which are the specific problems that Venezuela is having, I'll be glad to get a meeting to explain better how our local community was disappointed by some decisions... but we keep working. I apologize myself if I hurt some feeling, there are so many things that I want to talk; but usually nobody answer local issues because work issues or doesn't have the time. We are a great community down here in LATAM who is growing up slowly but strong. and I really don't believe in any "crisis latam/ve"; I will like to point a fact to end this thread. We all have differences, and sometime some egos are hurt. For me; I did but that page is turn to keep working like I do. Facts are that fedora latam has almost 130 ambassadors, and I only have differences with 2 what represents less that 1%. So there is not a crisis. People is working, and I apologize again because I know I might me to abrupt. Thank you all, nice day 2009/12/2 Paul W. Frields > The disagreement that is motivating this discussion is obviously a > problem we need to address. Max Spevack and I are looking into it and > talking to some of the people involved. > > Until we have a better idea what the problems are and how to solve > them, I would like this thread to be considered closed. Normally I > would not make such a statement, but in its current state this thread > isn't likely to lead to constructive solutions. > > Please do not respond further here. Thanks. > > -- > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From smcbrien at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 12:44:30 2009 From: smcbrien at gmail.com (scott mcbrien) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 07:44:30 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting Summary and links. In-Reply-To: <1259808122.4362.33.camel@mylaptop.myhome> References: <6c56c38a0912021731m4528636bv3e762e07fe399c3d@mail.gmail.com> <7936B5FE0FA08649B9E2969E1CF5671401AF765D3A@ICE-MBX-4.ice.nd.edu> <6c56c38a0912021816o2755258fmc1879fa895cf0acf@mail.gmail.com> <1259808122.4362.33.camel@mylaptop.myhome> Message-ID: <6c56c38a0912030444h205ed22p20c7a540d30a334c@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Steven James Drinnan wrote: > > > On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 21:16 -0500, scott mcbrien wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Pascal Calarco wrote: >> > ________________________________________ >> > From: fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com [fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of scott mcbrien [smcbrien at gmail.com] >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:31 PM >> > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> > Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting Summary and links. >> > >> > - snip - >> > >> > Lastly, I finally got the prototype NA Fedora long sleeve button up shirt: >> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/ButtonUp >> > Comments welcome. >> > >> > -Scott >> > >> > Scott, these look beautiful! ?Great work, these will be very popular! ?When can we start ordering? >> > >> > ?- pascal >> >> Pascal, >> >> I think we're just going to order direct from the manufacturer, though >> if we get enough people interested, we might be able to qualify for >> better pricing. ?I can put it on the agenda for the next meeting in 2 >> weeks. >> >> -Scott >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > I second that they look good, > > But on the price side I maybe able to get the price down. I have been a > merchandiser in Hong Kong and can quickly get factories in China and > control the quality and of course, price. > > If you would like to get me to do some shopping for prices before the > next meeting let me know. > > Steven Steven, One of the reasons for the price is that I wanted people to be able to order direct from the manufacturer, which is more or less retail. Because I was expecting people to order 1 or 2, it's not enough to get a price break on the shirts or the embroidery. However, at the same time I don't have to deal with payment or shipping or carry an inventory of them. If you can get the price down, and get them to deal with 1 or 2 order payments, and handle shipping to the end user, I'm open to it. -Scott From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Thu Dec 3 13:06:22 2009 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 11:06:22 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] LATAM: What is done, and the real problems that nobody tells In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0912030435x2a6ebb93ue1782d4075afdc2@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0912020446h78d10933hd7ed9867b65b4e06@mail.gmail.com> <4B17205C.5030203@projetofedora.org> <20091203025238.GU3563@victoria.internal.frields.org> <27a6293b0912030435x2a6ebb93ue1782d4075afdc2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B17B7CE.4070505@projetofedora.org> What part of "DO NOT REPLY THIS EMAIL THREAD" you do not understand? Please, STOP here and go to correct the internal problems that you have in your country with your fellows! Em 03-12-2009 10:35, Mar?a Leandro escreveu: > I agree with you Paul. > > Venezuela issue is something that we talk privately and wasn't related > to this mail thread. If Max want to share which are the specific > problems that Venezuela is having, I'll be glad to get a meeting to > explain better how our local community was disappointed by some > decisions... but we keep working. > > I apologize myself if I hurt some feeling, there are so many things that > I want to talk; but usually nobody answer local issues because work > issues or doesn't have the time. > > We are a great community down here in LATAM who is growing up slowly but > strong. and I really don't believe in any "crisis latam/ve"; I will like > to point a fact to end this thread. > > We all have differences, and sometime some egos are hurt. For me; I did > but that page is turn to keep working like I do. Facts are that fedora > latam has almost 130 ambassadors, and I only have differences with 2 > what represents less that 1%. So there is not a crisis. People is > working, and I apologize again because I know I might me to abrupt. > > Thank you all, nice day > > 2009/12/2 Paul W. Frields > > > The disagreement that is motivating this discussion is obviously a > problem we need to address. Max Spevack and I are looking into it and > talking to some of the people involved. > > Until we have a better idea what the problems are and how to solve > them, I would like this thread to be considered closed. Normally I > would not make such a statement, but in its current state this thread > isn't likely to lead to constructive solutions. > > Please do not respond further here. Thanks. > > -- > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net : stickster @ > #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From ppapadeas at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 14:16:33 2009 From: ppapadeas at gmail.com (Pierros Papadeas) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 16:16:33 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Summary: Fedora Ambassadors EMEA meeting 2009-12-2 Message-ID: <21461b360912030616o4922c371v16767b71f82521d@mail.gmail.com> Hello to all ambassadors :) Yesterday we had our scheduled EMEA Ambassadors IRC Meeting [1] We discussed about the upcoming Events on the region, about swag handling towards FOSDEM and on the possible FADs and FUDCON on EMEA next year. Meeting minutes can be found here [2] Our next meeting will be held on 2009-12-16 [3] and there is a possibility on an extra FOSDEM-specific meeting during December too. See ya all on our next meeting! ~Pierros [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-12-2 [2] http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-02/fedora-meeting.2009-12-02-20.09.html [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-12-16 -- Pierros Papadeas PGP key: 0x6130DBF8 http://pierros.papadeas.gr pierros at papadeas.gr liknus @ GRnet , Freenode From snow.open.ski at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 07:18:24 2009 From: snow.open.ski at gmail.com (Will) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 02:18:24 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting Summary and links. In-Reply-To: <6c56c38a0912021731m4528636bv3e762e07fe399c3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c56c38a0912021731m4528636bv3e762e07fe399c3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B176640.9040607@gmail.com> On 12/02/2009 08:31 PM, scott mcbrien wrote: > Lastly, I finally got the prototype NA Fedora long sleeve button up shirt: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/ButtonUp > Comments welcome. > I definitely want at least one. I am sure that I will spill something on it and then need another one or two. It looks great. Will From inode0 at gmail.com Thu Dec 3 23:46:52 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 17:46:52 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Election Town Halls Message-ID: Today we completed the 6 town halls for the Fedora Project Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo elections. If you weren't able to attend these you can access logs from each meeting from the main election page on the wiki. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections I'd like to thank all the candidates who chose to participate in one or more of the town halls. Without their cooperation our moderators would have been very lonely. I'd like to also thank Yaakov Nemoy, Toshio Kuratomi, Kevin Fenzi, Lars Delhage, Karsten Wade, and Paul Mellors for volunteering to do the sometimes exciting and sometimes not so exciting work as moderators of these events. Remember to vote! The schedule for voting has been slightly revised as described on the wiki but will begin on December 5 and run through at least December 15. Vote early though to help us minimize any impact our other activities might have. John From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Fri Dec 4 01:26:37 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 20:26:37 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] :) Let's keep moving forward with Fedora 12!!! :) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) I have recently done a "give away" distribution of Fedora 12 media and the people are quite pleased with the results. :) I hope that your experiences are going along that same path, too. :) Let's keep moving forward with Fedora 12!!! :) Sending "positive we can do it" energy to you now to your computer from my computer. :v) Please have a great day and an enjoyable weekend! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey = ???? ???????? One stone; two birds. To kill 2 birds with 1 stone. = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-145.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32-0.56.rc8.git1.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k at kaio.me Fri Dec 4 01:35:06 2009 From: k at kaio.me (Caius 'kaio' Chance) Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:35:06 +1000 Subject: [Ambassadors] :) Let's keep moving forward with Fedora 12!!! :) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B18674A.8090303@kaio.me> Hi David, Well done! (2009?12?04? 11:26), David Ramsey wrote: > (snip) > = > ???? > ???????? > One stone; two birds. > To kill 2 birds with 1 stone. There are quite many violent idioms from Chinese. :P I have recently: - become ambassadors in Chinese community - created the banner of Fedora Chinese User Group (FZUG) forum: http://kaio.fedorapeople.org/pic/fzug_banner.png - revising sub-forums in FZUG forum. - coordinating the first issue of Fedora Chinese Magazine (FZM) - attended weekly meetings of FZUG on #fedora-zh - translated fedora-websites into zh_TW via transifex - did some packaging on IBUS, CJK fonts, etc There will be a lot to be expected from us in 2010! Have wonderful Christmas and New Year! Regards, kaio. -- Caius 'kaio' Chance / ??? Fedora Project Contributor http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:kaio kaio at fedoraproject.org, kaio on irc.freenode.net, GPG: 17BEFCFA From k at kaio.me Fri Dec 4 02:23:15 2009 From: k at kaio.me (Caius 'kaio' Chance) Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 12:23:15 +1000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora - China In-Reply-To: <76e72f800912031752y1b63465fsa10fe7b6d48a6adb@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B17EAD7.6090901@redhat.com> <76e72f800912031752y1b63465fsa10fe7b6d48a6adb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B187293.3080307@kaio.me> (2009?12?04? 11:52), Yuan Yijun wrote: > 2009/12/4 Rodrigo Padula: > >> Hello my friends! >> >> (snip) >> > Hi, Rodrigo > (snip) > Hi Rodrigo, Thanks for your kind offer! This is Caius 'kaio' Chance. I am a Fedora Ambassador who used to stick to China/Chinese community but located in Australia: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kaio I am now on recruiting more ambassadors who uses Chinese, being more active on fedora-art, and developing the flies which is an online localization editor/system. Just want to add that I am coordinating the setup and first issue of 'Fedora Zhong-Wen (Chinese) Magazine'. It will be used as a communication channel among current Fedora-Zh-ers and attractions to prospected ones. We would be very happy to absorb all valuable experiences from Fedora Brazilian Community definitely! We could have some meetups on IRC/#fedora-meeting to exchange our knowledge for sure! Let's talk more on fedora-ambassador list. :) Regards, kaio. -- Caius 'kaio' Chance / ??? Fedora Project Contributor http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:kaio kaio at fedoraproject.org, kaio on irc.freenode.net, GPG: 17BEFCFA From nacross at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 05:53:02 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 23:53:02 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Nicaragua Lauch Party Message-ID: Today we have our launch party at Managua, Nicaragua. With a peak attendance of 36, we talked about what is fedora, how to contribute and what's new on Fedora 12. As a guest, we have a talk from Central American's womens group. We distributed media, stickers and T-Shirts. For mor info you can look at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v/Fedora12 Best regards -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Fri Dec 4 06:16:54 2009 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula) Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 04:16:54 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Nicaragua Lauch Party In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B18A956.9080800@projetofedora.org> Em 04-12-2009 03:53, Neville A. Cross escreveu: > Today we have our launch party at Managua, Nicaragua. > With a peak attendance of 36, we talked about what is fedora, how to > contribute and what's new on Fedora 12. As a guest, we have a talk > from Central American's womens group. We distributed media, stickers > and T-Shirts. > For mor info you can look at: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v/Fedora12 > > Best regards > The Fedora Community in Central America is growing and organizing great activities. This kind of event is very important to spread Fedora and to recruit new collaborators! Congratulations Neville! -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Fri Dec 4 07:04:40 2009 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula) Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:04:40 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora - China In-Reply-To: <4B187293.3080307@kaio.me> References: <4B17EAD7.6090901@redhat.com> <76e72f800912031752y1b63465fsa10fe7b6d48a6adb@mail.gmail.com> <4B187293.3080307@kaio.me> Message-ID: <4B18B488.2020408@projetofedora.org> Em 04-12-2009 00:23, Caius 'kaio' Chance escreveu: > (2009?12?04? 11:52), Yuan Yijun wrote: >> 2009/12/4 Rodrigo Padula: >> >>> Hello my friends! >>> >>> (snip) >>> >> Hi, Rodrigo >> (snip) >> > Hi Rodrigo, > > Thanks for your kind offer! > > This is Caius 'kaio' Chance. I am a Fedora Ambassador who used to stick > to China/Chinese community but located in Australia: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kaio Great!! We have to give some special attention to Australia too :-) > I am now on recruiting more ambassadors who uses Chinese, being more > active on fedora-art, and developing the flies which is an online > localization editor/system. The number of ambassadors in our wiki is 4. Yuan Yijun told me that number isn't correct. Compared with Brazil, India and USA, that number is very short. China is a big country, with a great potential for Free Software. So, I'm very interested to share our experiences and to help the Chinese group to grow. > Just want to add that I am coordinating the setup and first issue of > 'Fedora Zhong-Wen (Chinese) Magazine'. It will be used as a > communication channel among current Fedora-Zh-ers and attractions to > prospected ones. Great idea!! In Brazil we have the Fedora Brazil Magazine. You can download all PDFs here http://www.projetofedora.org/Revista/ If you need some help about, you can talk to Henrique Junio henriquecsj at gmail.com (Brazilian Fedora Ambassador) our Editor. > We would be very happy to absorb all valuable experiences from Fedora > Brazilian Community definitely! We could have some meetups on > IRC/#fedora-meeting to exchange our knowledge for sure! > > Let's talk more on fedora-ambassador list. :) > > Regards, kaio. > Sure, will be a pleasure to work with you and all Chinese ambassadors! Best regards! -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From magjogui at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 07:04:26 2009 From: magjogui at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?Sm9zw6kgRWRnYXJkbyBMw7NwZXogVsOhc3F1ZXo=?=) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 01:04:26 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] fedora Nicaragua and fedora El Salvador at CGSOL Message-ID: <6e1b46940912032304q4582a03y7109af5da9271d36@mail.gmail.com> The last 26,27 and 28 at Guatemala Neville (fedora.org.ni) and me magjogui ( fedora.org.sv) participate in CGSOL (http://cgsol.slgt.org/) with a conference "Proyecto fedora /fedora project", We had an attendance of about 25 people. will speak about: fedora Project, fedora Releases, I get with fedora, fedora Project Values, Who uses fedora,fedora Project Latam and How to collaborate... 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If so, then please empower us with your knowledge. :v) > There will be a lot to be expected from us in 2010! > > Have wonderful Christmas and New Year! > > Regards, kaio. > > -- > Caius 'kaio' Chance / ??? > Fedora Project Contributor http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:kaio > kaio at fedoraproject.org, kaio on irc.freenode.net, GPG: 17BEFCFA +1 Kaio on your work within China. Our fellow Fedora Ambassadors are true well of knowledge as well as experience regarding many issues as well as ideas. :v) Please have a great day and an enjoyable weekend! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey --------------------------------- ???????? ????????? Even monkeys fall from trees. Even experts make mistakes. --------------------------------- = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-145.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32-0.56.rc8.git1.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tatica at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 4 12:00:10 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 07:30:10 -0430 Subject: [Ambassadors] Nicaragua Lauch Party In-Reply-To: <4B18A956.9080800@projetofedora.org> References: <4B18A956.9080800@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <27a6293b0912040400h1525b049tc1622495ad6f6420@mail.gmail.com> Excelent Neville. We in Venezuela are learning a lot about all things you are doing in Nicaragua. We hope to get so many happy faces as you did it in that Release Party. *Read you* later :D 2009/12/4 Rodrigo Padula > Em 04-12-2009 03:53, Neville A. Cross escreveu: > > Today we have our launch party at Managua, Nicaragua. > > With a peak attendance of 36, we talked about what is fedora, how to > > contribute and what's new on Fedora 12. As a guest, we have a talk > > from Central American's womens group. We distributed media, stickers > > and T-Shirts. > > For mor info you can look at: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v/Fedora12 > > > > Best regards > > > > The Fedora Community in Central America is growing and organizing great > activities. > > This kind of event is very important to spread Fedora and to recruit new > collaborators! > > Congratulations Neville! > > -- > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > Fedora Community Manager - Latin America > Red Hat Community and Academy Relations > http://www.proyectofedora.org > http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula > http://www.rodrigopadula.com > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... 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China is > a big country, with a great potential for Free Software. yeah - this number is not correct - ;) with the recent activities in china the number increased. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification#China_.288.29 But please all, if you really have to recruit for a new Ambassador, keep in mind it helps to start in another Group - it is not the best idea to start in the Ambassador Group in Fedora and headcount is not all what matters! > So, I'm very interested to share our experiences and to help the Chinese > group to grow. I am sure China will get all support from the most famsco members ;) cu Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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China is >> a big country, with a great potential for Free Software. > > yeah - this number is not correct - ;) > with the recent activities in china the number increased. > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification#China_.288.29 Joerg, that numbers are updated automatically or you have to run a script ? > But please all, if you really have to recruit for a new Ambassador, keep in > mind it helps to start in another Group - it is not the best idea to start in > the Ambassador Group in Fedora and headcount is not all what matters! Sure, the best way is invite people that have time to contribute and are involved in Fedora in some way. The mentors now can help with this issues, providing guidance for the invited and new ambassadors. 2010 will be a great year for Fedora around the world! >> So, I'm very interested to share our experiences and to help the Chinese >> group to grow. > > I am sure China will get all support from the most famsco members ;) > > > cu Joerg > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From k at kaio.me Fri Dec 4 15:38:44 2009 From: k at kaio.me (Caius 'kaio' Chance) Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:38:44 +1000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora - China In-Reply-To: <200912041438.30595.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <4B17EAD7.6090901@redhat.com> <4B187293.3080307@kaio.me> <4B18B488.2020408@projetofedora.org> <200912041438.30595.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4B192D04.7040601@kaio.me> Hi Joerg, (2009?12?04? 23:38), Joerg Simon wrote: > On Friday 04 December 2009 08:04:40 Rodrigo Padula wrote: >> The number of ambassadors in our wiki is 4. Yuan Yijun told me that >> number isn't correct. >> Compared with Brazil, India and USA, that number is very short. China is >> a big country, with a great potential for Free Software. > > yeah - this number is not correct - ;) > with the recent activities in china the number increased. > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification#China_.288.29 The number on your URL might be still not correct ;) We should've more than 8 ambassadors, like close to 15 now! > But please all, if you really have to recruit for a new Ambassador, keep in > mind it helps to start in another Group - it is not the best idea to start in > the Ambassador Group in Fedora and headcount is not all what matters! Sure, we are farming package maintainers, translators, authors, and users and so on. :) Regards, kaio -- Caius 'kaio' Chance / ??? Fedora Project Contributor http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:kaio kaio at fedoraproject.org, kaio on irc.freenode.net, GPG: 17BEFCFA From k at kaio.me Fri Dec 4 15:43:35 2009 From: k at kaio.me (Caius 'kaio' Chance) Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:43:35 +1000 Subject: [Ambassadors] :) Let's keep moving forward with Fedora 12!!! :) In-Reply-To: References: , , <4B18674A.8090303@kaio.me> Message-ID: <4B192E27.6040003@kaio.me> (2009?12?04? 17:24), David Ramsey wrote: > By chance, does someone on this mailing list have input on how to create > another mailing list for a subset of the user base on the! redhat.com, > for example "not this just an example" Fedora-Chinese-Users or > something? If so, then please empower us with your knowledge. :v) I have also proposed on the other day for a fedora-zh at list.fedoraproject.org or fedora-zh-list. But no response from webmaster's email. > +1 Kaio on your work within China. Our fellow Fedora Ambassadors are > true well of knowledge as well as experience regarding many issues as > well as ideas. :v) > Still a long to-do list. ;) Regards, kaio. -- Caius 'kaio' Chance / ??? Fedora Project Contributor http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:kaio kaio at fedoraproject.org, kaio on irc.freenode.net, GPG: 17BEFCFA From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 4 17:43:37 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (Joerg Simon) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 18:43:37 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora - China In-Reply-To: <4B192693.7030105@projetofedora.org> References: <4B17EAD7.6090901@redhat.com> <200912041438.30595.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <4B192693.7030105@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <200912041843.40964.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> On Friday 04 December 2009 16:11:15 Rodrigo Padula wrote: > Joerg, that numbers are updated automatically or you have to run a script ? it supposed to run automatically but right now we do it by a script from susmit there is a ticket from susmit to get it as a cronjob https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1624 i think with the infrastructure activities right now, we have to wait a bit ;) cu Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From gbraad at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 4 20:47:52 2009 From: gbraad at fedoraproject.org (Gerard Braad) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 21:47:52 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Re: Fedora - China (Caius 'kaio' Chance) Message-ID: > (2009?12?04? 23:38), Joerg Simon wrote: > We should've more than 8 ambassadors, like close to 15 now! Currently you can not have two country codes assigned to your FAS account. I am currently in the Netherlands, but also live in Beijing/CHN. I am include in the list on: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Ambassadors_from_China but not on the list Joerg mentioned >Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:43:35 +1000 > From: "Caius 'kaio' Chance" > Sure, we are farming package maintainers, translators, authors, and > users and so on. Have you also tried to contact the nice folks at #chinalug and #beijinglug (freenode) ? greets, ??? (Gerard) From k at kaio.me Fri Dec 4 20:58:30 2009 From: k at kaio.me (Caius 'kaio' Chance) Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 06:58:30 +1000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Re: Fedora - China (Caius 'kaio' Chance) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B1977F6.10002@kaio.me> (2009?12?05? 06:47), Gerard Braad wrote: >> (2009?12?04? 23:38), Joerg Simon wrote: >> We should've more than 8 ambassadors, like close to 15 now! > > Currently you can not have two country codes assigned to your FAS account. > I am currently in the Netherlands, but also live in Beijing/CHN. > > I am include in the list on: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Ambassadors_from_China I know. Hence, I was included by scripts as Ambassador from Brisbane, Australia: though I was recognized by people in #fedora-zh and FZUG. :) Without myself, we still have close to 15 Ambassadors located in China at the moment. > but not on the list Joerg mentioned > >> Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:43:35 +1000 >> From: "Caius 'kaio' Chance" >> Sure, we are farming package maintainers, translators, authors, and >> users and so on. > > Have you also tried to contact the nice folks at #chinalug and > #beijinglug (freenode) ? I do believe a few of us have regular communication may be even off-the-net activity attendance to #chinalug or #beijinglug (freenode). I will join those channels from now on and start mingling with them. Cheers, ??? (kaio) -- Caius 'kaio' Chance / ??? Fedora Project Contributor http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:kaio kaio at fedoraproject.org, kaio on irc.freenode.net, GPG: 17BEFCFA From nigjones at redhat.com Sat Dec 5 00:19:42 2009 From: nigjones at redhat.com (Nigel Jones) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 19:19:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Board, FESCo & FAmSCo Elections - Voting Information In-Reply-To: <1846964.1861259971953089.JavaMail.nigjones@njones.bne.redhat.com> Message-ID: <9440004.1881259972380235.JavaMail.nigjones@njones.bne.redhat.com> Hi Everyone, The elections for the Fedora Board, Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo) and the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee have been created and are due to start at 0000 UTC on 5th December 2009 and are scheduled to run until 2359 UTC on 15th December 2009. All groups have chosen to use the Range Voting method (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_voting). Ballots may be cast on the Fedora Elections System at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting. If this is the first time you've used the voting system, please refer to the Fedora Elections Guide, currently located at http://nigelj.fedorapeople.org/feg/. **** Please Note **** There will be a Fedora Infrastructure outage during the voting period that may effect the voting application, as a result we have brought the voting start date forward to the 5th December instead of the 8th December. As announced by Paul Frields in the event of extended outage, we will as appropriate extend the voting period. We have also implemented a new feature in our voting software, so users can verify their votes. Vote verification can be done at: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/verify You will be prompted for your Fedora Account System username and password and a list of elections where votes have been recorded will be listed. For more information please refer to: Fedora Infrastructure Outage Information: * https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-December/msg00000.html * https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1845 Contingency plans in case of extended outage: * https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2009-December/msg00014.html ********************* Fedora Board Election: ---------------------- This election, the Fedora Board is electing two candidates and will appoint another two members. Vacating the seats on the board this election are elected representatives Matt Domsch & Bill Nottingham, and appointed representatives Christoher Aillon and Dimitris Glezos (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/History). The candidates for this election, in alphabetical order are: Chris Tyler (ctyler) Colin Walters (walters) Matt Domsch (mdomsch) Steven M. Parrish (SMParrish) To vote, you must have a signed Contributor License Agreement (CLA). Vote Here: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/boardf13 Town Hall Logs: * http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2009-12-01/fedora-board-town-hall-2009-12-01.2009-12-01-03.00.log.html * http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2009-12-02/fedora-townhall.2009-12-02-15.01.log.html Fedora Engineering Steering Committee Election: ----------------------------------------------- For this election, FESCo will be electing four candidates to sit on the committee. Vacating the seats on FESCo this election are Jon Stanley, Dan Hor?k, Jarod Wilson, and David Woodhouse. The candidates for this election, in alphabetical order are: Adam Jackson (ajax) Christoph Wickert (cwickert) Justin M. Forbes (jforbes) Matthew Garrett (mjg59) Peter Jones (pjones) Richard June (rjune) Robert Scheck (rsc) To vote, you must have a signed Contributor License Agreement (CLA) and be a member of another Fedora group. Vote Here: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/fescof13 Town Hall Logs: * http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2009-12-01/fesco-town-hall-2009-12-01.2009-12-01-22.00.log.html * http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2009-12-03/fesco-town-hall-2009-12-03.2009-12-03-18.07.log.html Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Election: ----------------------------------------------- This election FAmSCo will be electing all 7 seats on the committee. These seats were previously held by Max Spevack, Joerg Simon, Francesco Ugolini, Thomas Canniot, Rodrigo Padula, David Nalley and Susmit Shannigrahi. The candidates for this election, in no particular order are: David Nalley Jean-Francois Saucier Joerg Simon Luca Foppiano Maria Gracia Leandro Max Spevack Robert Scheck Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira Sandro Mathys Scott Seiersen Shakthi Kannan Susmit Shannigrahi To vote, you must be a member of the ambassadors group in the Fedora Account System. Vote Here: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/famscof13 Townhall Log: * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meetings:Town_Hall_FAmSCo_2009-11-28_1800 * http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2009-11-30/famsco-townhall.2009-11-30-17.58.log.html *** I'd also like to point out the following from Paul Frields' announcement for the June 2008 Board Election: "I'd like everyone voting to remember that this isn't a popularity contest, or a reward system. Think about how you'd like to Board to look when you vote, the same way you think about how you'd like any government body to look when you cast votes for their elections. We have a lot of worthy candidates on this list, and you should pick the ones that you feel will best represent you in advancing the Fedora Project. This is one of numerous ways in which our community makes decisions about the leadership of Fedora. Your vote counts, and I hope you take advantage of it." *** This advice is still valid, not just for the Fedora Board election but for all three elections. Thanks also go to John Rose and other volunteers who have helped with organising and running Town Hall meetings for these elections. Regards, Nigel Jones Fedora Election Admin From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Sun Dec 6 11:53:38 2009 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:53:38 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Fedora Meeting Today 1830UTC #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20091206125338.7ea6a2e7@mrtomlinux.org> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2009-12-06 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (6 dec.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . 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Hi gave my first international Talk at foss.in about the Security Spin and the OSSTMM: http://jsimon.fedorapeople.org/fedora_osstmm_secspinv2.pdf it was a great event - reports: http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/12/fossin-is-started.html http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/12/fossin-day-1.html http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/12/fossin-day-2-is-running.html http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/12/fossin-day3.html http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/12/fossin-day4.html http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/12/foss.html Event Pictures: http://www.simline.de/foss_in2009/ thanks all and cu Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Sun Dec 6 21:10:22 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 16:10:22 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Foss.in is over - Fedora Security Spin Talk In-Reply-To: <200912062138.35602.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200912062138.35602.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: > From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com; mspevack at redhat.com > Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 21:38:26 +0100 > CC: > Subject: [Ambassadors] Foss.in is over - Fedora Security Spin Talk Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) Joerg, thank you for your posting. :) > Ambassador Membership Service is back to normal working status! > > Hi gave my first international Talk at foss.in about the Security Spin and the > OSSTMM: > http://jsimon.fedorapeople.org/fedora_osstmm_secspinv2.pdf Fantastic!!! :) > it was a great event - reports: > http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/12/fossin-is-started.html > http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/12/fossin-day-1.html > http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/12/fossin-day-2-is-running.html > http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/12/fossin-day3.html > http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/12/fossin-day4.html > http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/12/foss.html +1 to all Fedora Ambassadors and representatives! :D > Event Pictures: > http://www.simline.de/foss_in2009/ Very good foss.in :v) Please have a great day! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-145.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32-0.56.rc8.git1.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = > -- > Joerg (kital) Simon > jsimon at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon > http://kitall.blogspot.com > Key Fingerprint: > 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Arthur On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 02:28, Harish Pillay wrote: > So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia >>>> have use for some of these? Should we go ahead with this plan? >>>> >>> >>> In APAC, I am going ahead with making 5,000 pieces of these and I would >>> therefore suggest that the APAC (India and Asia as in quote above) be >>> taken out of the numbers Max was proposing. >>> >>> APAC Ambassadors, please email me directly on how many your respective >>> geographies would need. >>> >> > > >> Just out of curiosity, what is your cost to produce in APAC? >> >> Generally I am all for producing regionally or even locally, but small >> quantities seem so prohibitive. Though at 5,000 it might be cheaper to >> make locally than shipping around the world. >> > > The quote I got was Singapore 22 cents per piece - about US 15 cents or > so. We need to keep the quality especially the colour correct etc so > my Red Hat APAC marketing folks here in Singapore are helping to ensure > consistency. > > Harish > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From electromech at electromech.info Mon Dec 7 18:16:44 2009 From: electromech at electromech.info (Nilesh J. Vaghela) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:46:44 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Small Fedora 12 Install Fest By VGLUG At Ahmedabad. In-Reply-To: <200907272028.29926.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200907272028.29926.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4B1D468C.9070504@electromech.info> Hi All, VGLUG had just organized one small Fedora 12 Install Fest at Ahmedabad with CSI Ahmedabad Chapter. Here is the small report. http://vglug.info/fedoar-12-install-fest-vglug-with-csi-ahmedabad-chapter Thanks and regards. -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner Ahmedabad: 404,Maulik Arcad,Nr. Mansi cross Road,Satellite Rd Baroda : 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj www.electromech.info From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Tue Dec 8 04:04:28 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:34:28 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Small Fedora 12 Install Fest By VGLUG At Ahmedabad. In-Reply-To: <4B1D468C.9070504@electromech.info> References: <200907272028.29926.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <4B1D468C.9070504@electromech.info> Message-ID: <35586fc00912072004i809b40dx4a3a1231b829b0f6@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Nilesh J. Vaghela wrote: > VGLUG had just organized one small Fedora 12 Install Fest at Ahmedabad with > CSI Ahmedabad Chapter. > > Here is the small report. > > http://vglug.info/fedoar-12-install-fest-vglug-with-csi-ahmedabad-chapter Thank for your the report, nice stuff. What are the steps that the VGLUG takes to follow-up on these install fests ? By the way, if you are cross posting to various lists, indicating it in the subject line works very nicely. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay From k at kaio.me Tue Dec 8 08:19:14 2009 From: k at kaio.me (Caius 'kaio' Chance) Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:19:14 +1000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Freemedia - is trac email changed? Message-ID: <4B1E0C02.7040204@kaio.me> Hi, I am not sure if this is OT here. I have hundreds of Freemedia trac email in recent days. It was not like this before, but request tickets from people around the world are pouring into my Inbox now. That should be the only efficient way to be notified the requests by trac email. I do not want to unsubscribe the mailing list as I still want to participate to Freemedia activity. Would anyone has same problems? Regards, kaio -- Caius 'kaio' Chance / ??? Fedora Project Contributor http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:kaio kaio at fedoraproject.org, kaio on irc.freenode.net, GPG: 17BEFCFA From frankly3d at gmail.com Tue Dec 8 08:46:37 2009 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)) Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 08:46:37 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Freemedia - is trac email changed? In-Reply-To: <4B1E0C02.7040204@kaio.me> References: <4B1E0C02.7040204@kaio.me> Message-ID: <4B1E126D.6010805@gmail.com> On 08/12/09 08:19, Caius 'kaio' Chance wrote: > Hi, > > I am not sure if this is OT here. I have hundreds of Freemedia trac > email in recent days. It was not like this before, but request tickets > from people around the world are pouring into my Inbox now. > > That should be the only efficient way to be notified the requests by > trac email. I do not want to unsubscribe the mailing list as I still > want to participate to Freemedia activity. > > Would anyone has same problems? > > Regards, > kaio > Hi Kaio, Wrong list- to begin. the freemedia-list would be better: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-freemedia-list You can unsubscribe from the trac emails https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/freemedia-trac and just check manually on the web-interface: https://fedorahosted.org/freemedia/ -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded. From luca at foppiano.org Tue Dec 8 08:52:52 2009 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:52:52 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] cerea fair - budget request Message-ID: <4B1E13E4.8070003@foppiano.org> Hi all, since August I'm trying to organize a meeting for the Italian fedora ambassador and supporters during the Cerea fair (an electronic/radio amateur/computer fair in Italy - near Verona - with about 10000 participants) on January 16th and 17th 2010. The expo area is divided into two zones, the expo and the conference (with sits for 250 people). The conference wasn't used so far, in fact the idea was that we start using it for the first time during the fair, to do some speech and talks about fedora and the free software stuffs. Unfortunately - I can sadly say thanks to the low interest to some people to move and to contribute - we miss this opportunity (I can't oblige people to come, and I can understand that sometimes traveling within Italy might be a PITA), but we have now the opportunity to have our own booth during the whole fair. I put all the information we need in this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/IT/Events/2010/CereaFair What I'm asking is a small budget for the accomodation and to refund some travellers that come from far away: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/IT/Events/2010/CereaFair#Budget The accomodation is really cheap: around 20? per person, per night and the travel is just to refund some people (most of us come from the same city so we will share the car). Probably we'll need gadget as well, but I'm still checking to see if we have something left. Thanks Luca From fzied at dottn.com Tue Dec 8 13:53:24 2009 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 14:53:24 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] IEEE International Conference in Tunisia In-Reply-To: <436bc6ca0905230050g500222favb6f6d3f0a50c24@mail.gmail.com> References: <50baabb30905070255r12676346y2927508fa696d522@mail.gmail.com> <5bddd8fd0905070347y38d00a45g42acd7b57d56f095@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905090021r3755151dt4116d9890a8f4790@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905190014j4b1aadbcy9264f9c19817eafa@mail.gmail.com> <50baabb30905190303u33f2a705g48ae62402d2dfdae@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905230050g500222favb6f6d3f0a50c24@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <436bc6ca0912080553s7c4f2a3fl70ad4224a09643b@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Is the conference still held in Tunisia ? we are december 8th On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > Sure I will, do anyone of you ever seen a Fedora Tie ? it would be cool and > sober on a black suite :) > > more seriously, really what can we do here for the event ? > > 2009/5/19 Jos? Roberto Colombo Junior > > Yeah! I'm a IEEE Student Branch on Ilha Solteira - Brazil, and all the >> events are very class-high! >> But they are very important! >> >> My best regards. >> >> 2009/5/19 Chitlesh GOORAH >> >> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > is there anything we need to prepare here in Tunisia for this event ? >>> > >>> >>> You most probably should prepare a suit and a tie. :) Yep the dress >>> code is not geeky. I heard that those IEEE events are high-class. >>> >>> Chitlesh >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- >> Jos? Roberto Colombo J?nior - Eletrical Engineer - Linux User >> IEEE # 90408028 - Communications Manager - IEEE Student Branch on Ilha >> Solteira >> Brazilian Fedora Ambassador >> Phone: +55 17-97448897 >> E-mail: joseroberto at ieee.org - Skype: jose.roberto.colombo.junior >> Msn: jose.roberto.colombo.junior at hotmail.com >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Joseroberto >> http://www.ieee.org/unesp-ilha >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > Zied Fakhfakh > Dot TN - CTO > Tel: +216 71 82 89 58 > Fax: +216 71 88 61 12 > http://www.dottn.com > Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 > Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis > Tunisia > -- Zied FAKHFAKH Dot TN - CTO @: fzied at dottn.com t: +216 71 82 89 58 f: +216 71 82 89 58 w: http://www.dottn.com a: Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 - Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis - Tunisia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What are the steps that the > VGLUG takes to follow-up on these install fests ? > We have telephone no. of all visitors so can contact the participants. But yet not planned. The good things is 2-3 organization contacted us for further Open source seminar and workshop. That what I can say good out come of the fest. -- -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner 404, Maulik arcade, Above Karnavati Pagarakha Bazar, Nr. Mansi cross Road, Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. www.electromech.info -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Tue Dec 8 15:03:22 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (Joerg Simon) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:03:22 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] cerea fair - budget request In-Reply-To: <200912081559.41856.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <4B1E13E4.8070003@foppiano.org> <200912081559.41856.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <200912081603.26545.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> On Tuesday 08 December 2009 15:59:38 Joerg Simon wrote: > On Tuesday 08 December 2009 09:52:52 Luca Foppiano wrote: > > What I'm asking is a small budget for the accomodation and to refund > > some travellers that come from far away: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/IT/Events/2010/CereaFair#Budge > >t > > sure Luca we will try to do our best - can you please file a ticket here: > https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ ticket is already submitted https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/34 thanks cu -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <4B176640.9040607@gmail.com> References: <6c56c38a0912021731m4528636bv3e762e07fe399c3d@mail.gmail.com> <4B176640.9040607@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6c56c38a0912081001r6259a603i4e66aaad817c9238@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:18 AM, Will wrote: > On 12/02/2009 08:31 PM, scott mcbrien wrote: >> >> Lastly, I finally got the prototype NA Fedora long sleeve button up shirt: >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/ButtonUp >> Comments welcome. >> > > I definitely want at least one. I am sure that I will spill something on it > and then need another one or two. It looks great. > > Will > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Everyone paying attention to this thread, I've talked to the vendor, they're all ready to start taking shirt orders. I've updated the wiki page with their contact details and hours: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/ButtonUp So start ordering! -Scott From himam at fedoraproject.org Tue Dec 8 19:32:29 2009 From: himam at fedoraproject.org (Hisham Abdel-Magid) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 22:32:29 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] IEEE International Conference in Tunisia In-Reply-To: <436bc6ca0912080553s7c4f2a3fl70ad4224a09643b@mail.gmail.com> References: <50baabb30905070255r12676346y2927508fa696d522@mail.gmail.com> <5bddd8fd0905070347y38d00a45g42acd7b57d56f095@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905090021r3755151dt4116d9890a8f4790@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905190014j4b1aadbcy9264f9c19817eafa@mail.gmail.com> <50baabb30905190303u33f2a705g48ae62402d2dfdae@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905230050g500222favb6f6d3f0a50c24@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0912080553s7c4f2a3fl70ad4224a09643b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <59e007ed0912081132i32f4b105i789fb18d4df6a248@mail.gmail.com> On 12/8/09, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > Hi, > > Is the conference still held in Tunisia ? > > we are december 8th > > On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > >> Sure I will, do anyone of you ever seen a Fedora Tie ? it would be cool >> and >> sober on a black suite :) >> >> more seriously, really what can we do here for the event ? >> >> 2009/5/19 Jos? Roberto Colombo Junior >> >> Yeah! I'm a IEEE Student Branch on Ilha Solteira - Brazil, and all the >>> events are very class-high! >>> But they are very important! >>> >>> My best regards. >>> >>> 2009/5/19 Chitlesh GOORAH >>> >>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: >>>> > Hi, >>>> > >>>> > is there anything we need to prepare here in Tunisia for this event ? >>>> > >>>> >>>> You most probably should prepare a suit and a tie. :) Yep the dress >>>> code is not geeky. I heard that those IEEE events are high-class. >>>> >>>> Chitlesh >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- >>> Jos? Roberto Colombo J?nior - Eletrical Engineer - Linux User >>> IEEE # 90408028 - Communications Manager - IEEE Student Branch on Ilha >>> Solteira >>> Brazilian Fedora Ambassador >>> Phone: +55 17-97448897 >>> E-mail: joseroberto at ieee.org - Skype: jose.roberto.colombo.junior >>> Msn: jose.roberto.colombo.junior at hotmail.com >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Joseroberto >>> http://www.ieee.org/unesp-ilha >>> >>> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Zied Fakhfakh >> Dot TN - CTO >> Tel: +216 71 82 89 58 >> Fax: +216 71 88 61 12 >> http://www.dottn.com >> Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 >> Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis >> Tunisia >> > > > > -- > Zied FAKHFAKH > Dot TN - CTO > > @: fzied at dottn.com > t: +216 71 82 89 58 > f: +216 71 82 89 58 > w: http://www.dottn.com > a: Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 - Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis - Tunisia > -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eng. Hisham Isam M. Abdel-Magid Civil & Infrastructures Engineer Dar Al-Handasah Consultants (Shair and Partners) P.O.Box: 40358, Doha, Qatar Mobile: +974 5042547 - +974 5543080 E.mail: hisham.abdelmagid at dargroup.com Websites: www.dargroup.com - www.thepearlqatar.com Fedora Ambassador in Sudan and Qatar, E.mail: himam at fedoraproject.org wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Himam From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Wed Dec 9 00:03:31 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 19:03:31 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] A friendly reminder for the APAC meeting on Sunday, December 13th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC :) In-Reply-To: References: <4A8B7C3C.2040500@aim.com>, , , , , Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) A friendly reminder for the APAC meeting on Sunday, December 13th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC :) ======================================== Day : Sunday, December 13th, 2009 Time : 07:00 UTC See the following URL to check and verify your own timing based on your location - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=12&day=13&hour=07&min=0&sec=0 Channel : #fedora-meeting https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-12-13 For any proposed changes to the draft agenda, then please update - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-12-13#Agenda ======================================== I hope that you may be able to attend. :) Sending positive Fedora 12 energy from my computer to yours. :v) Please have a great day and an enjoyable week! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32-0.56.rc8.git1.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 00:05:32 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 05:35:32 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Small Fedora 12 Install Fest By VGLUG At Ahmedabad. In-Reply-To: <24233aca0912080647w526b6c1fj807709f839433517@mail.gmail.com> References: <200907272028.29926.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <4B1D468C.9070504@electromech.info> <35586fc00912072004i809b40dx4a3a1231b829b0f6@mail.gmail.com> <24233aca0912080647w526b6c1fj807709f839433517@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00912081605l1ec2a29dge3728b02da8315f3@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:17 PM, ElectroMech wrote: > We have telephone no. of all visitors so can contact the participants. But > yet not planned. > > The good things is 2-3 organization contacted us for further Open source > seminar and workshop. > > That what I can say good out come of the fest. One beautiful thing about an installation fest it that it gets the participants talking with each other and, the coach who is leading the fest. This does provide windows of opportunity to slip in messages pertaining to The Fedora Project as well as pointing out areas of "how to join" to interested participants. I feel that it is important to ensure that the folks who did show any interest in how to join/participate/contribute be asked on to a forum and, appropriately coached so as to encourage and motivate them. The above wasn't specifically aimed at the VGLUG install fest but a general observation which can be useful for a larger audience of this list. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay Sent from Pune, MH, India From fzied at dottn.com Wed Dec 9 11:10:42 2009 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:10:42 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] IEEE International Conference in Tunisia In-Reply-To: <59e007ed0912081132i32f4b105i789fb18d4df6a248@mail.gmail.com> References: <50baabb30905070255r12676346y2927508fa696d522@mail.gmail.com> <5bddd8fd0905070347y38d00a45g42acd7b57d56f095@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905090021r3755151dt4116d9890a8f4790@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905190014j4b1aadbcy9264f9c19817eafa@mail.gmail.com> <50baabb30905190303u33f2a705g48ae62402d2dfdae@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905230050g500222favb6f6d3f0a50c24@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0912080553s7c4f2a3fl70ad4224a09643b@mail.gmail.com> <59e007ed0912081132i32f4b105i789fb18d4df6a248@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <436bc6ca0912090310nc205d4fl9d858d50a8c3c674@mail.gmail.com> Hi, The conference is still held in TUnisia: http://www.icecs2009.org/ regards, Zied. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Hisham Abdel-Magid wrote: > On 12/8/09, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Is the conference still held in Tunisia ? > > > > we are december 8th > > > > On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > > > >> Sure I will, do anyone of you ever seen a Fedora Tie ? it would be cool > >> and > >> sober on a black suite :) > >> > >> more seriously, really what can we do here for the event ? > >> > >> 2009/5/19 Jos? Roberto Colombo Junior > >> > >> Yeah! I'm a IEEE Student Branch on Ilha Solteira - Brazil, and all the > >>> events are very class-high! > >>> But they are very important! > >>> > >>> My best regards. > >>> > >>> 2009/5/19 Chitlesh GOORAH > >>> > >>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > >>>> > Hi, > >>>> > > >>>> > is there anything we need to prepare here in Tunisia for this event > ? > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> You most probably should prepare a suit and a tie. :) Yep the dress > >>>> code is not geeky. I heard that those IEEE events are high-class. > >>>> > >>>> Chitlesh > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > >>> Jos? Roberto Colombo J?nior - Eletrical Engineer - Linux User > >>> IEEE # 90408028 - Communications Manager - IEEE Student Branch on Ilha > >>> Solteira > >>> Brazilian Fedora Ambassador > >>> Phone: +55 17-97448897 > >>> E-mail: joseroberto at ieee.org - Skype: jose.roberto.colombo.junior > >>> Msn: jose.roberto.colombo.junior at hotmail.com > >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Joseroberto > >>> http://www.ieee.org/unesp-ilha > >>> > >>> > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Zied Fakhfakh > >> Dot TN - CTO > >> Tel: +216 71 82 89 58 > >> Fax: +216 71 88 61 12 > >> http://www.dottn.com > >> Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 > >> Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis > >> Tunisia > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Zied FAKHFAKH > > Dot TN - CTO > > > > @: fzied at dottn.com > > t: +216 71 82 89 58 > > f: +216 71 82 89 58 > > w: http://www.dottn.com > > a: Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 - Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis - Tunisia > > > > > -- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Eng. Hisham Isam M. Abdel-Magid > Civil & Infrastructures Engineer > Dar Al-Handasah Consultants (Shair and Partners) > P.O.Box: 40358, Doha, Qatar > Mobile: +974 5042547 - +974 5543080 > E.mail: hisham.abdelmagid at dargroup.com > Websites: www.dargroup.com - www.thepearlqatar.com > > Fedora Ambassador in Sudan and Qatar, > E.mail: himam at fedoraproject.org > wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Himam > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Zied FAKHFAKH Dot TN - CTO @: fzied at dottn.com t: +216 71 82 89 58 f: +216 71 82 89 58 w: http://www.dottn.com a: Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 - Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis - Tunisia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fabio.olive at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 17:27:21 2009 From: fabio.olive at gmail.com (Fabio Olive Leite) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:27:21 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Small Fedora 12 Install Fest By VGLUG At Ahmedabad. In-Reply-To: <35586fc00912081605l1ec2a29dge3728b02da8315f3@mail.gmail.com> References: <200907272028.29926.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <4B1D468C.9070504@electromech.info> <35586fc00912072004i809b40dx4a3a1231b829b0f6@mail.gmail.com> <24233aca0912080647w526b6c1fj807709f839433517@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912081605l1ec2a29dge3728b02da8315f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091209152721.1bd7aaad@gmail.com> Ol?! On 2009-12-09 sankarshan wrote: > > One beautiful thing about an installation fest it that it gets the > participants talking with each other and, the coach who is leading the > fest. This does provide windows of opportunity to slip in messages > pertaining to The Fedora Project as well as pointing out areas of "how > to join" to interested participants. I am in the process of bootstrapping a local free software users and enthusiasts community where I live, and I'm doing a very simple process that you might be interested in. It should help people gather together and get used to chatting and getting involved in the project. I wrote about it in: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cafe_con_Linux Regards, F?bio Oliv? -- ex sed lex awk yacc, e pluribus unix, amem na matem?tica das id?ias, permuta ? igual a adi??o e um debate inteligente implementa a multiplica??o From leonardo.vaz at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 17:29:46 2009 From: leonardo.vaz at gmail.com (Leonardo Menezes Vaz) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:29:46 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Cafe con Linux Message-ID: <1ff193860912090929y254d29fax563433f02c135785@mail.gmail.com> Hey, Great ideas like the link bellow can make the expression "Act locally, think globally" have a real meaning... ;) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cafe_con_Linux Congratulations Fabio and welcome aboard! Leo -- Leonardo Menezes Vaz ++55 51 91568225 Sent from Meridiani Planum, Mars. From karlie_robinson at webpath.net Wed Dec 9 17:43:59 2009 From: karlie_robinson at webpath.net (Karlie Robinson) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:43:59 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Cafe con Linux In-Reply-To: <1ff193860912090929y254d29fax563433f02c135785@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ff193860912090929y254d29fax563433f02c135785@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B1FE1DF.4040105@webpath.net> On 12/09/2009 12:29 PM, Leonardo Menezes Vaz wrote: > Hey, > > Great ideas like the link bellow can make the expression "Act locally, > think globally" have a real meaning... ;) > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cafe_con_Linux > > Congratulations Fabio and welcome aboard! > > Leo > > Some of us at FUDCon were talking about activities to do with university students. This might be a good one to add to our [upcoming] list. ~Karlie From nacross at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 17:57:59 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:57:59 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Cafe con Linux In-Reply-To: <4B1FE1DF.4040105@webpath.net> References: <1ff193860912090929y254d29fax563433f02c135785@mail.gmail.com> <4B1FE1DF.4040105@webpath.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Karlie Robinson wrote: > On 12/09/2009 12:29 PM, Leonardo Menezes Vaz wrote: >> >> Hey, >> >> Great ideas like the link bellow can make the expression "Act locally, >> think globally" have a real meaning... ;) >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cafe_con_Linux >> >> Congratulations Fabio and welcome aboard! >> >> Leo >> >> > > Some of us at FUDCon were talking about activities to do with university > students. ?This might be a good one to add to our [upcoming] list. > > ~Karlie > At Nicaragua we are about to celebrate our first anniversary of Pizza Bash. This is a informal meeting where a few advance users get together to help beginners with configuration problems, answer questions, share what we have been experimenting lately and eat pizza. We make kick-ass events, but at any event we had have a schedule to follows and everybody is busy. This informal event allows us to talk with people in a relax atmosphere. Some times is big (about 45) and some times is small (about 15), but we always have a good time. Good idea to publish that on the wiki so everybody can adapt to fit locally. Best regards. -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Wed Dec 9 19:40:44 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:40:44 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Message-ID: <200912092040.59640.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear Ambassadors, let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Member: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ganesai from India mentored by Heherson Pagcaliwagan Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This might be a good one to add to our [upcoming] list. > > > > ~Karlie > > > > At Nicaragua we are about to celebrate our first anniversary of Pizza > Bash. This is a informal meeting where a few advance users get > together to help beginners with configuration problems, answer > questions, share what we have been experimenting lately and eat pizza. > We make kick-ass events, but at any event we had have a schedule to > follows and everybody is busy. This informal event allows us to talk > with people in a relax atmosphere. Some times is big (about 45) and > some times is small (about 15), but we always have a good time. > > Good idea to publish that on the wiki so everybody can adapt to fit > locally. > > Best regards. > > > -- > Neville > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v > Linux User # 473217 > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Saludos Cordiales. Willinx ------------------------------------------------------------ La libertad, Sancho, es uno de los m?s preciosos dones que a los hombres dieron los cielos; con ella no pueden igualarse los tesoros que encierran la tierra y el mar: por la libertad, as? como por la honra, se puede y debe aventurar la vida. 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Cross > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Karlie Robinson >> wrote: >> > On 12/09/2009 12:29 PM, Leonardo Menezes Vaz wrote: >> >> >> >> Hey, >> >> >> >> Great ideas like the link bellow can make the expression "Act locally, >> >> think globally" have a real meaning... ;) >> >> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cafe_con_Linux >> >> >> >> Congratulations Fabio and welcome aboard! >> >> >> >> Leo >> >> >> >> >> > >> > Some of us at FUDCon were talking about activities to do with university >> > students. This might be a good one to add to our [upcoming] list. >> > >> > ~Karlie >> > >> >> At Nicaragua we are about to celebrate our first anniversary of Pizza >> Bash. This is a informal meeting where a few advance users get >> together to help beginners with configuration problems, answer >> questions, share what we have been experimenting lately and eat pizza. >> We make kick-ass events, but at any event we had have a schedule to >> follows and everybody is busy. This informal event allows us to talk >> with people in a relax atmosphere. Some times is big (about 45) and >> some times is small (about 15), but we always have a good time. >> >> Good idea to publish that on the wiki so everybody can adapt to fit >> locally. >> >> Best regards. >> >> >> -- >> Neville >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v >> Linux User # 473217 >> >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >> Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > > -- > Saludos Cordiales. > Willinx > ------------------------------------------------------------ > La libertad, Sancho, es uno de los m?s preciosos dones que a los hombres > dieron los cielos; con ella no pueden igualarse los tesoros que encierran la > tierra y el mar: por la libertad, as? como por la honra, se puede y debe > aventurar la vida. > Enviar frase > Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra (1547-1616) Escritor espa?ol. > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Juan Pablo Botero Administrador de Sistemas Inform?ticos. Fedora Ambassador for Colombia http://jpilldev.com http://proyectofedora.org/colombia/ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:jpill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nacross at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 20:37:18 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:37:18 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Cafe con Linux In-Reply-To: <48e7f6a20912091220m1042ddd0g9a6c0ca5e4d2d71@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ff193860912090929y254d29fax563433f02c135785@mail.gmail.com> <4B1FE1DF.4040105@webpath.net> <48e7f6a20912091220m1042ddd0g9a6c0ca5e4d2d71@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2009/12/9 Juan Pablo Botero L?pez : > Hello. > In Colombia, we're working with Cafe Linux, is the same idea but we didn't > share it, in my region some one named Beer Camp; plus we're trying the Video > Streaming. > Thanks for share. > One of the first efforts in Nicaragua involved Beer camps and barcamps... but with beer or bar, the only thing was drinking :p So we move away to open the afternoon with pizza (without beers) and then move on to a bar to drink as reward for the activity. That too can be included in the local fine tuning of these activities. -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From karlie_robinson at webpath.net Wed Dec 9 20:55:00 2009 From: karlie_robinson at webpath.net (Karlie Robinson) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:55:00 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Cafe con Linux In-Reply-To: References: <1ff193860912090929y254d29fax563433f02c135785@mail.gmail.com> <4B1FE1DF.4040105@webpath.net> <48e7f6a20912091220m1042ddd0g9a6c0ca5e4d2d71@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B200EA4.4020207@webpath.net> On 12/09/2009 03:37 PM, Neville A. Cross wrote: > and > then move on to a bar to drink as reward for the activity. In Rochester NY, that's called the Beer SIG and it takes place after every LUG meeting. From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Dec 9 21:13:00 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:13:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Red Hat Virtual Experience report Message-ID: Hi all, Here's my "trip report" from the Red Hat Virtual Experience. Some interesting conversations, and frequently-asked-questions that lots of Ambassadors will get. http://spevack.livejournal.com/95091.html --Max From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Wed Dec 9 21:39:18 2009 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 22:39:18 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora case badges for the WHOLE WORLD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2d319b780912091339q7b8e67f6se7f0c87cffcb5106@mail.gmail.com> Hi, On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 05:16, Max Spevack wrote: > In the Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight, we were talking about > producing more case badges, which look like this: > > ? ? ? ?http://myweb.cableone.net/dthomas/fedora/fcasebadges.jpg [snip] > So, I guess the question is -- do folks in EMEA, LATAM, India, and Asia have > use for some of these? ?Should we go ahead with this plan? For France, we'd like 1500 of them. Based on the experience we had when we made our own (which were much less gorgeous than those), that should do us a little less than a year (2 full Fedora releases) Thanks a lot for doing those, they will be greatly appreciated. :) ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) From jjm at usebox.net Wed Dec 9 22:17:13 2009 From: jjm at usebox.net (Juan J. =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDnez?=) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:17:13 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Red Hat Virtual Experience report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1260397033.1862.22.camel@vortex.usebox.net> Hello, I'm the man "with the gap between Fedora an RHEL" (sic). Sorry to not identifying myself as an ambassador. I was commenting with Max a problem that my company has with a big customer, with a very complex set of needs. For the server they have pretty clear that RHEL it's the way to go (or CentOS when paid support it's not important), but for the desktop it's different because they want to migrate from Windows to a state-of-the-art desktop. Basically they want the RHEL support (7 years), with the cutting edge features of Fedora (only 18 months, and then reinstall or play with upgrade). And I want to own a Ferrari :) We know that this very unlikely to happen because the long time support and ABI compatibility over time implies app version freezing, so we're proposing RHEL for desktops that require long time support (and "suffer" Gnome 2.16, etc), and Fedora for the rest. Overall they're happy with the idea (three levels: RHEL for long time paid support, CentOS for long time community support and Fedora for cutting edge desktops -- and satellite/spacewalk to manage them all). The weak point comes when the Fedora support ends. Too much desktops to reinstall, or upgrade (that actually isn't 100% perfect). Than was a complex conversation to have in the minimal-tiny chat box of the Fedora booth, but anyway :) Comments are welcome, because it seems to me a nice case to prove your advocacy abilities :) Regards, Juanjo El mi?, 09-12-2009 a las 16:13 -0500, Max Spevack escribi?: > Hi all, > > Here's my "trip report" from the Red Hat Virtual Experience. Some > interesting conversations, and frequently-asked-questions that lots of > Ambassadors will get. > > http://spevack.livejournal.com/95091.html > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- jjm's home: http://www.usebox.net/jjm/ blackshell: http://blackshell.usebox.net/ ramble on: http://rambleon.usebox.net/ From ailsoncamargo at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 22:30:31 2009 From: ailsoncamargo at gmail.com (Ailson Camargo de Sousa) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 20:30:31 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Cafe con Linux In-Reply-To: <1ff193860912090929y254d29fax563433f02c135785@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ff193860912090929y254d29fax563433f02c135785@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <640d350b0912091430g7739b6f3m9890635d5fbd6ce1@mail.gmail.com> Welcome Fabio Oliv? I am from Curitibanos/Santa Catarina! -- Ailson Camargo de Sousa Engenharia Mecatr?nica - UnC - Curitibanos _________________________ Linux User #448828 Fedora Ambassador Fone (49) 8808-0586 (49) 9916-1544 - ConceitoS Inform?tica ailsoncamargo at gmail.com itocamargo at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Wed Dec 9 22:37:45 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:37:45 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Red Hat Virtual Experience report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:13:00 -0500 > From: mspevack at redhat.com > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Subject: [Ambassadors] Red Hat Virtual Experience report Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) Max, most excellent! :) > Here's my "trip report" from the Red Hat Virtual Experience. Some interesting conversations, and frequently-asked-questions that lots of Ambassadors will get. > http://spevack.livejournal.com/95091.html Interesting discussions listed in your livejournal. :) Virtual systems are definitely on my system and I love it! :D I strongly agree with discussion of use of Fedora in order to practice for RHCE as well as the RHCT skill base. Provides for a marketable ability in my current and future. :) Also, I guess that I am like one of those who likes to be running the Fedora environment in order to further solidify my Linux System Administration foundation. Practice, practice, practice. :) Please have a great day! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey --------------------------------- ???? ???????? 10 people 10 colors Different strokes for different folks --------------------------------- = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32-0.56.rc8.git1.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ah, customers' set of needs indeed. :) > Basically they want the RHEL support (7 years), with the cutting edge features of Fedora (only 18 months, and then reinstall or play with upgrade). And I want to own a Ferrari :) > We know that this very unlikely to happen because the long time support and ABI compatibility over time implies app version freezing, so we're proposing RHEL for desktops that require long time support (and "suffer" Gnome 2.16, etc), and Fedora for the rest. Definitely sounds like your company has determined requirements and applied these requirements into specifications which are now being addressed and creating solutions in order to address. :) +1 Juanjo! :) > Overall they're happy with the idea (three levels: RHEL for long time paid support, CentOS for long time community support and Fedora for cutting edge desktops -- and satellite/spacewalk to manage them all). Woo hoo! :) > The weak point comes when the Fedora support ends. Too much desktops to reinstall, or upgrade (that actually isn't 100% perfect). Sounds like a possible example of desktop deployment...or at least a consideration for how to integrate in order to address. :) >From weaknesses come a set of solutions as well opportunities, find a way to think outside the box and the world "options may be endness indeed" is yours. ;) > Than was a complex conversation to have in the minimal-tiny chat box of the Fedora booth, but anyway :) > Comments are welcome, because it seems to me a nice case to prove your advocacy abilities :) How about consideration of virtualization for integrating your customers' needs? :) Juanjo, as an idea for some more food for thought regarding your customers' needs, have you considered placing a "Post" into the FedoraForum.org? This may be a good forum to get additional ideas/considerations which may be to your advantage. :) If interested, see FedoraForum.org's URL - http://forums.fedoraforum.org/index.php Please have a great day and an enjoyable weekend! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey --------------------------------- ???????? ????????? Even monkeys fall from trees. Even experts make mistakes. --------------------------------- = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32-0.56.rc8.git1.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A Fedora release only lives for 13 months approximately, not 18. > And I want to own a Ferrari :) Sorry, can't do anything about that :) > We know that this very unlikely to happen because the long time support > and ABI compatibility over time implies app version freezing, so we're > proposing RHEL for desktops that require long time support (and "suffer" > Gnome 2.16, etc), and Fedora for the rest. > > Overall they're happy with the idea (three levels: RHEL for long time > paid support, CentOS for long time community support and Fedora for > cutting edge desktops -- and satellite/spacewalk to manage them all). > > The weak point comes when the Fedora support ends. Too much desktops to > reinstall, or upgrade (that actually isn't 100% perfect). I was at FOSDEM in Brussels this year and went to see a talk by 2 Cobbler devs. They talked about Cobbler, and how it helped deployments. Then they made a demonstration. They had 2 laptops, one with Fedora installed on it, the other without anything. The demonstration consisted of : 1. installing and configuring Cobbler on the Fedora laptop 2. deploying Fedora on the second laptop (PXE boot thanks to Cobbler) All in all, the session lasted no more than one hour. Quite impressive :) If I were you, that's the way I'd be pursuing. Anyway, the Ambassadors mailing list is probably not the best place to ask for help about such an issue, you'll have much more valuable answers on the Cobbler mailing list, in technical forums or through your Red Hat paid support (if you have it). ;) Best regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) From dowdle at montanalinux.org Wed Dec 9 23:37:22 2009 From: dowdle at montanalinux.org (Scott Dowdle) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:37:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Red Hat Virtual Experience report In-Reply-To: <11124852.754.1260401182267.JavaMail.root@mail.montanalinux.org> Message-ID: <20018167.756.1260401842654.JavaMail.root@mail.montanalinux.org> Max, ----- "Max Spevack" wrote: > Here's my "trip report" from the Red Hat Virtual Experience. Some > interesting conversations, and frequently-asked-questions that lots of > Ambassadors will get. > > http://spevack.livejournal.com/95091.html Awesome report. I really, really, really enjoyed the conference... although I have to admit I was at work and wasn't able to concentrate exclusively on it the whole day so I missed a lot of content... and the opportunity to ask questions and chat after them. Luckily though I saw someone mention that the presentations would be available online for the next 3 months... and verified the "replay" feature is there already. I did get to attend a couple presentations and do some question asking and chatting... although there were usually three going at the same time so there was no way to see them all live anyway. I attended the Technical Merits of KVM talk by Andrew Cathrow and was actually able to extend an interview I had done with him and Jim Brennan by chatting with them in the Networking Cafe. (See: Interview: Red Hat on Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization - http://www.montanalinux.org/interview-red-hat-rhev.html). While I did notice some pretty minor technical glitches it does show the promise of such a "virtual" type event. I wonder how much it cost Red Hat and if it is something Red Hat (and/or others) would consider sponsoring for Fedora... so Fedora could have a virtual online conference. MY MAIN POINT IN SENDING THIS EMAIL IS... how many enjoyed it and would like to use it for Fedora? My only regret though is that the event was outsourced to virtualevents365.com (this was my first use of their service) and that it, I assume, is a closed service/product... and based strongly on Flash.. If there were unresolved concerns about using virtualevents365.com for a Fedora virtual conference, maybe Fedora could setup up a DimDim server (http://www.dimdim.com/) as an almost suitable substitute that is much more open/free?!? I too am signed up as a Fedora Ambassador but I've been busy with so many other Linux-related projects (OpenVZ and the LUGs in Montana) that I haven't been very active so far as the Fedora online services are concerned. Oh, and I have been responding to several Fedora related articles on LWN as Max mentioned. :) TYL, -- Scott Dowdle 704 Church Street Belgrade, MT 59714 (406)388-0827 [home] (406)994-3931 [work] From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Thu Dec 10 03:43:15 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:43:15 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] IEEE International Conference in Tunisia In-Reply-To: <436bc6ca0912080553s7c4f2a3fl70ad4224a09643b@mail.gmail.com> References: <50baabb30905070255r12676346y2927508fa696d522@mail.gmail.com> <5bddd8fd0905070347y38d00a45g42acd7b57d56f095@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905090021r3755151dt4116d9890a8f4790@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905190014j4b1aadbcy9264f9c19817eafa@mail.gmail.com> <50baabb30905190303u33f2a705g48ae62402d2dfdae@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905230050g500222favb6f6d3f0a50c24@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0912080553s7c4f2a3fl70ad4224a09643b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <50baabb30912091943s294f8d6el98ebd885c600d1ae@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Zied Fakhfakh < > wrote: > Hi, > > Is the conference still held in Tunisia ? > > we are december 8th Hello, The conference will held normally, but without any thing related to Fedora activities. I haven't received any feedback from them. I fear we were not taken seriously enough. I wonder how much time and effort we have to spent so that people would be willing to hear us. Chitlesh From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Thu Dec 10 07:22:06 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:52:06 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Infrastructure outage notification. You may be affected this weekend. Message-ID: Hi, "A reminder for those who don't read the link, we'll be having a massive outage of many Fedora services this weekend while we are moving our servers to a new location." Services that will be down * Buildsystem * CVS * Wiki * MirrorManager * translate.fedoraproject.org * Mail lists * Primary mirrors at download.fedora.redhat.com Read more at: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1845 Contact Information: #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From fzied at dottn.com Thu Dec 10 07:39:28 2009 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:39:28 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] IEEE International Conference in Tunisia In-Reply-To: <50baabb30912091943s294f8d6el98ebd885c600d1ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <50baabb30905070255r12676346y2927508fa696d522@mail.gmail.com> <5bddd8fd0905070347y38d00a45g42acd7b57d56f095@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905090021r3755151dt4116d9890a8f4790@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905190014j4b1aadbcy9264f9c19817eafa@mail.gmail.com> <50baabb30905190303u33f2a705g48ae62402d2dfdae@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905230050g500222favb6f6d3f0a50c24@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0912080553s7c4f2a3fl70ad4224a09643b@mail.gmail.com> <50baabb30912091943s294f8d6el98ebd885c600d1ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <436bc6ca0912092339s64d76e99w4687fb5b714ce217@mail.gmail.com> Got It :( On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Zied Fakhfakh < > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Is the conference still held in Tunisia ? > > > > we are december 8th > > Hello, > > The conference will held normally, but without any thing related to > Fedora activities. I haven't received any feedback from them. I fear > we were not taken seriously enough. I wonder how much time and effort > we have to spent so that people would be willing to hear us. > > Chitlesh > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Zied FAKHFAKH Dot TN - CTO @: fzied at dottn.com t: +216 71 82 89 58 f: +216 71 82 89 58 w: http://www.dottn.com a: Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 - Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis - Tunisia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fzied at dottn.com Thu Dec 10 07:58:56 2009 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:58:56 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Tunisia Activities Message-ID: <436bc6ca0912092358s64dfc95gddca17640cc51e33@mail.gmail.com> Your Excellencies, I talk on behalf of Nihed MBAREK, Wael AMMAR and my self. We've been silent for a while, but we were not sleeping. We started a lobbying strategy around fedora in the universities by creating local "Fedora Clubs". We already have 2 clubs: - one in ISET Charguia: http://www.isetch.rnu.tn - public university - one in ESPRIT: www.esprit.ens.tn - private university ISET CH already had their first activities which are: - a private mirror: create by my self - a release party of F12, (will have it's event page), where we gave 4 conferences -----> What's new in Fedora 12, by Nihed -----> Virtualization, by Imed Chihi, former Red Hat employee -----> How to contribute to Fedora, by my self -----> Perenity of Open source software, by our friend Mohamed Nejib Bejar -----> We had a real celebration, Cake, sodas ... candies .... - they soon we be migrating anything in their school to Fedora (or CentOS), and - they will start as soon as possible translating and contributing. kind regards, Zied. -- Zied FAKHFAKH Dot TN - CTO @: fzied at dottn.com t: +216 71 82 89 58 f: +216 71 82 89 58 w: http://www.dottn.com a: Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 - Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis - Tunisia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All this sounds excellent. I just have a little question about the private mirror : would you consider making it an official Fedora mirror ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring#How_can_someone_become_a_public_mirror.3F Best regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) From fzied at dottn.com Thu Dec 10 13:59:28 2009 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:59:28 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Tunisia Activities In-Reply-To: <2d319b780912100128y154d8bf6w7db68eb17d09e999@mail.gmail.com> References: <436bc6ca0912092358s64dfc95gddca17640cc51e33@mail.gmail.com> <2d319b780912100128y154d8bf6w7db68eb17d09e999@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <436bc6ca0912100559r23378c12g40632ce52b58105@mail.gmail.com> Hi again, On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) < bochecha at fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Hi Zied, > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 08:58, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > > We started a lobbying strategy around fedora in the universities by > creating > > local "Fedora Clubs". > > > > We already have 2 clubs: > > - one in ISET Charguia: http://www.isetch.rnu.tn - public university > > - one in ESPRIT: www.esprit.ens.tn - private university > > > > ISET CH already had their first activities which are: > > - a private mirror: create by my self > > - a release party of F12, (will have it's event page), where we gave 4 > > conferences > > -----> What's new in Fedora 12, by Nihed > > -----> Virtualization, by Imed Chihi, former Red Hat employee > > -----> How to contribute to Fedora, by my self > > -----> Perenity of Open source software, by our friend Mohamed Nejib > Bejar > > -----> We had a real celebration, Cake, sodas ... candies .... > > - they soon we be migrating anything in their school to Fedora (or > CentOS), > > and > > - they will start as soon as possible translating and contributing. > > All this sounds excellent. I just have a little question about the > private mirror : would you consider making it an official Fedora > mirror ? > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring#How_can_someone_become_a_public_mirror.3F > > Actually the mirror is declared in the wiki, but only as private, cannot make it public, they only have 6Mbps. We call it broadband here ... Ahemm :) > Best regards, > > > ---------- > > Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Zied FAKHFAKH Dot TN - CTO @: fzied at dottn.com t: +216 71 82 89 58 f: +216 71 82 89 58 w: http://www.dottn.com a: Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 - Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis - Tunisia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fhornain at gmail.com Thu Dec 10 14:07:17 2009 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:07:17 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Speaker@FOSDEM'10 Message-ID: <3161376e0912100607u5f35e2b1jd90d16bc9d7b24fb@mail.gmail.com> Dear *, As you already probably know, no devroom is assigned to distribution any more at FOSDEM. Now, FOSDEM TEAM invite us to have debate, brainstorm or do presentations for and with other distributions. Ref : http://www.fosdem.org/2010/distrominiconf What I think is good for everybody. Actually, I do not really know how really to manage that on the Fedora side cause it still no clear for me. I have already contacts with CentOS and Mandriva on that subject but we are still nowhere. And FOSDEM is in 57 days. Fortunately, I am not alone in that case ;) (I mean other distributions) Well, all I thing I need are speakers, stakeholders, developers and so on for the Fedora part on the following subjects in order to participate to the FOSDEM Distrominiconf. - Packaging - Localization - Community Infrastructure - Test and QA - Governance - Working with upstream Thanks for your proposals. Best Regards Frederic -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerold at lugd.org Thu Dec 10 15:04:19 2009 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:04:19 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Tunisia Activities In-Reply-To: <436bc6ca0912100559r23378c12g40632ce52b58105@mail.gmail.com> References: <436bc6ca0912092358s64dfc95gddca17640cc51e33@mail.gmail.com> <2d319b780912100128y154d8bf6w7db68eb17d09e999@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0912100559r23378c12g40632ce52b58105@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <60c1fe7bbfec4f01c863471e7e48e568.squirrel@www.gbc.net> > Hi again, > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) < > bochecha at fedoraproject.org> wrote: > >> Hi Zied, >> >> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 08:58, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: >> > We started a lobbying strategy around fedora in the universities by >> creating >> > local "Fedora Clubs". >> > >> > We already have 2 clubs: >> > - one in ISET Charguia: http://www.isetch.rnu.tn - public university >> > - one in ESPRIT: www.esprit.ens.tn - private university >> > >> > ISET CH already had their first activities which are: >> > - a private mirror: create by my self >> > - a release party of F12, (will have it's event page), where we gave >> 4 >> > conferences >> > -----> What's new in Fedora 12, by Nihed >> > -----> Virtualization, by Imed Chihi, former Red Hat employee >> > -----> How to contribute to Fedora, by my self >> > -----> Perenity of Open source software, by our friend Mohamed Nejib >> Bejar >> > -----> We had a real celebration, Cake, sodas ... candies .... >> > - they soon we be migrating anything in their school to Fedora (or >> CentOS), >> > and >> > - they will start as soon as possible translating and contributing. >> >> All this sounds excellent. I just have a little question about the >> private mirror : would you consider making it an official Fedora >> mirror ? >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring#How_can_someone_become_a_public_mirror.3F >> >> Actually the mirror is declared in the wiki, but only as private, cannot > make it public, they only have 6Mbps. We call it broadband here ... Ahemm > :) ^^ :-) We call it "elsewhere" so ... But I like to see you all growing in Northern Africa. Do you know about a "bigger" Linux Event in Tunis, Monastir or whereever it makes sense for us to come and support you local guys? What do you need from Fedora? Do you need medias? Which one; 32 Bit or 64 Bit? Do you need Live Medias or Installation DvD? Zied, we would like to support you all others, but don't know how ... What are your needs? Regards Geroldka From fzied at dottn.com Thu Dec 10 17:10:38 2009 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:10:38 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Tunisia Activities In-Reply-To: <60c1fe7bbfec4f01c863471e7e48e568.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <436bc6ca0912092358s64dfc95gddca17640cc51e33@mail.gmail.com> <2d319b780912100128y154d8bf6w7db68eb17d09e999@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0912100559r23378c12g40632ce52b58105@mail.gmail.com> <60c1fe7bbfec4f01c863471e7e48e568.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <436bc6ca0912100910x452a2c22ub3083ec6208b9946@mail.gmail.com> Hi, On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Gerold wrote: > > Hi again, > > > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) < > > bochecha at fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > >> Hi Zied, > >> > >> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 08:58, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > >> > We started a lobbying strategy around fedora in the universities by > >> creating > >> > local "Fedora Clubs". > >> > > >> > We already have 2 clubs: > >> > - one in ISET Charguia: http://www.isetch.rnu.tn - public university > >> > - one in ESPRIT: www.esprit.ens.tn - private university > >> > > >> > ISET CH already had their first activities which are: > >> > - a private mirror: create by my self > >> > - a release party of F12, (will have it's event page), where we gave > >> 4 > >> > conferences > >> > -----> What's new in Fedora 12, by Nihed > >> > -----> Virtualization, by Imed Chihi, former Red Hat employee > >> > -----> How to contribute to Fedora, by my self > >> > -----> Perenity of Open source software, by our friend Mohamed Nejib > >> Bejar > >> > -----> We had a real celebration, Cake, sodas ... candies .... > >> > - they soon we be migrating anything in their school to Fedora (or > >> CentOS), > >> > and > >> > - they will start as soon as possible translating and contributing. > >> > >> All this sounds excellent. I just have a little question about the > >> private mirror : would you consider making it an official Fedora > >> mirror ? > >> > >> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring#How_can_someone_become_a_public_mirror.3F > >> > >> Actually the mirror is declared in the wiki, but only as private, cannot > > make it public, they only have 6Mbps. We call it broadband here ... Ahemm > > :) > ^^ > :-) > We call it "elsewhere" so ... > > But I like to see you all growing in Northern Africa. Do you know about a > "bigger" Linux Event in Tunis, Monastir or whereever it makes sense for us > to come and support you local guys? > Actually there's this: http://www.opensource.tn/index.php?id=46&L=0&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=164&tx_ttnews[backPid]=8&cHash=da9695d3dd It might be too late, we just knew about it. I'll do my best to track/provoke the next events. What do you need from Fedora? Do you need medias? Which one; 32 Bit or 64 > Bit? Do you need Live Medias or Installation DvD? > Media will be welcome: yes we need a few, I'd say 2/3 64 and 1/3 32 of as many you can send - 500 ? less/more ? Zied, we would like to support you all others, but don't know how ... > What are your needs? > There's something, somehow expensive, but would make us very very happy. We talked about it with the Ambassadors from France, Armel & Thomas. We do have an IBM system P,*9110-51A (System p5 510, 510Q Express) - we won it from an SFD. * it includes 2x 73G disks, and there's room for 2 more disks, it would be nice if we can get those 2 disks and we have the "GO" to host it freely as a PUBLIC MIRROR directly at the Tunisian BACKBONE, that will give it more than 400G (I know it's much more) the problem is the price, here the best price we got: 1x hdd 146 = 1160TND/1.9=610? 1x hdd 300 = 1320TND/1.9=695? > > Regards > > Geroldka > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Kind regards, Zied. -- Zied FAKHFAKH Dot TN - CTO @: fzied at dottn.com t: +216 71 82 89 58 f: +216 71 82 89 58 w: http://www.dottn.com a: Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 - Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis - Tunisia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From karlie_robinson at webpath.net Thu Dec 10 19:35:23 2009 From: karlie_robinson at webpath.net (Karlie Robinson) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:35:23 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Planning? White Hat Security Day in Rochester NY Message-ID: <4B214D7B.5030906@webpath.net> A couple guys from LUGOR did White Hat Security Day last June and I've already had a call about sponsorship (from On-Disk.com) and possible presentations for 2010. Anyone at Fedora/Red Hat feel like giving a talk? Running a booth? etc? As I understand, last year was the first year with a specific Linux talk on the schedule and the impression I'm getting is that the crowd is hungry for more. Let me know if you think this is something we should go after. I'm not qualified to give a talk to security professionals, but I can help with leg work and such. ~Karlie From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Dec 11 05:04:39 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:04:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Fedora Meeting Today 1830UTC #fedora-meeting In-Reply-To: <20091206125338.7ea6a2e7@mrtomlinux.org> References: <20091206125338.7ea6a2e7@mrtomlinux.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org wrote: > This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and > _every_ interested people. I'm sorry that I haven't personally been able to spend more time focusing on the French community since my return to the US from Europe. If you guys like, I'd be interested in using this thread to talk about how things are going, what you need, what you're planning, etc. Is everything in good shape? Other than the case badges, is there stuff you need from other parts of the Fedora community? Thanks! --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Dec 11 05:04:44 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:04:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] cerea fair - budget request In-Reply-To: <200912081603.26545.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <4B1E13E4.8070003@foppiano.org> <200912081559.41856.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <200912081603.26545.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Joerg Simon wrote: >> sure Luca we will try to do our best - can you please file a ticket >> here: https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ > > ticket is already submitted https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/34 It's no problem at all, Luca. For relatively small requests like these, folks don't really even need to ask. Save your receipts, and we'll do a PayPal reimbursement after the event, if that works for you. Thanks and good luck! --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Dec 11 05:04:58 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:04:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Red Hat Virtual Experience report In-Reply-To: <20018167.756.1260401842654.JavaMail.root@mail.montanalinux.org> References: <20018167.756.1260401842654.JavaMail.root@mail.montanalinux.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, Scott Dowdle wrote: > MY MAIN POINT IN SENDING THIS EMAIL IS... how many enjoyed it and > would like to use it for Fedora? > > My only regret though is that the event was outsourced to > virtualevents365.com (this was my first use of their service) and that > it, I assume, is a closed service/product... and based strongly on > Flash.. If there were unresolved concerns about using > virtualevents365.com for a Fedora virtual conference, maybe Fedora > could setup up a DimDim server (http://www.dimdim.com/) as an almost > suitable substitute that is much more open/free?!? The things that are actionable here are: (1) Figure out if DimDim is in a state where we could successfully use it to try out a Fedora-like virtual event. (2) Depending on the answer, do one or more of the following: * Put together an event in DimDim, just because it would be interesting. Anyone care to volunteer to look into this? * Work on making DimDim better upstream. * Put together a virtual event on IRC. We already know that Fedora Classroom is a successful virtual education model. We did an online FUDCon a few years ago, and I think we've learned a lot since then that would make for a good event, especially if it was one day with a strong focus, etc. --Max From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Fri Dec 11 07:06:20 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 02:06:20 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Red Hat Virtual Experience report In-Reply-To: References: <20018167.756.1260401842654.JavaMail.root@mail.montanalinux.org>, Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) > Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:04:58 -0500 > From: mspevack at redhat.com > On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, Scott Dowdle wrote: > > > MY MAIN POINT IN SENDING THIS EMAIL IS... how many enjoyed it and > > would like to use it for Fedora? > > > > My only regret though is that the event was outsourced to > > virtualevents365.com (this was my first use of their service) and that > > it, I assume, is a closed service/product... and based strongly on > > Flash.. If there were unresolved concerns about using > > virtualevents365.com for a Fedora virtual conference, maybe Fedora > > could setup up a DimDim server (http://www.dimdim.com/) as an almost > > suitable substitute that is much more open/free?!? =================================================== Dimdim Free Now the world can meet freely with up to 20 people, absolutely free. http://www.dimdim.com/products/dimdim_editions_free.html For proof of concept with 20 people, sounds feasible. :) =================================================== Dimdim Pro Save time & money while enjoying unlimited meetings and pro features with 50 people. Only $19 per month. My sidenote, that is per user per month...50 users equals $11,400 for one year, there is a graph on the left at this URL - http://www.dimdim.com/products/dimdim_editions_pro.html =================================================== "...Dimdim Enterprise is used by the following fine organizations: * Novell * Dell * Red Hat * Amazon * Ohio State University * University of Pennsylvania * FreeConference * Duke..." Possibly there is an existing Enterprise in place which may be tapped into? Above data is from sidenote on lower left of this URL - http://www.dimdim.com/products/dimdim_editions_enterprise.html =================================================== > The things that are actionable here are: > > (1) Figure out if DimDim is in a state where we could successfully use > it to try out a Fedora-like virtual event. > > (2) Depending on the answer, do one or more of the following: > > * Put together an event in DimDim, just because it would be interesting. > Anyone care to volunteer to look into this? > > * Work on making DimDim better upstream. > > * Put together a virtual event on IRC. We already know that Fedora Classroom is a successful virtual education model. We did an online FUDCon a few years ago, and I think we've learned a lot since then that would make for a good event, especially if it was one day with a strong focus, etc. Most excellent actionable things indeed. :v) Please have a great day and an enjoyable weekend! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey --------------------------------- ???????? ????????? Even monkeys fall from trees. Even experts make mistakes. --------------------------------- = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32-0.56.rc8.git1.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Or this may be only for Red Hat personnel. :) Above data is from sidenote on lower left of this URL - http://www.dimdim.com/products/dimdim_editions_enterprise.html =================================================== Please have a great day and an enjoyable weekened! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey --------------------------------- ???? ???????? One stone; two birds. To kill 2 birds with 1 stone. --------------------------------- = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32-0.56.rc8.git1.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pingou at pingoured.fr Fri Dec 11 08:10:15 2009 From: pingou at pingoured.fr (Pierre-Yves) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:10:15 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Fedora Meeting Today 1830UTC #fedora-meeting In-Reply-To: References: <20091206125338.7ea6a2e7@mrtomlinux.org> Message-ID: <1260519016.2283.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 00:04 -0500, Max Spevack wrote: > On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org wrote: > > > This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and > > _every_ interested people. > > I'm sorry that I haven't personally been able to spend more time > focusing on the French community since my return to the US from Europe. > > If you guys like, I'd be interested in using this thread to talk about > how things are going, what you need, what you're planning, etc. > > Is everything in good shape? Other than the case badges, is there stuff > you need from other parts of the Fedora community? Hi Max, Thank you for asking. The short answer to your question is 'good'. We are doing good at the moment. We are busy preparing our install fest which will happen in Paris this week-end. We have a nice list of conference and workshop (thanks to the effort of Mathieu and Thomas). We also plan to use this meeting to start to plan our next events and activities (such as Fosdem). Regarding our needs, I would prefer to come back on this after this week-end. We have the opportunity to meet with almost the whole board of the NPO this week-end and that should give us a clear idea of where we are and what we (eventually) need. I will therefore come back to you by email next week to debrief quickly with you how we are doing and what are our needs. Thanks for all, Pierre From jjm at usebox.net Fri Dec 11 08:21:25 2009 From: jjm at usebox.net (Juan J. =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mart=EDnez?=) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:21:25 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Red Hat Virtual Experience report In-Reply-To: References: <20018167.756.1260401842654.JavaMail.root@mail.montanalinux.org> , , , Message-ID: <1260519685.9070.9.camel@osvlap01> Hello, Just wanted to point that Dimdim Free Edition != Dimdim Open Source Community Edition. There's no doc about OSE features (the brochures in their webpage only refers to the Free edition that has the 20 participants limit). Somebody has tried Dimdim OSE? Regards, Juanjo El vie, 11-12-2009 a las 02:19 -0500, David Ramsey escribi?: > Hello Everyone, > > Greetings. :) > > One errata from my afterthought...here goes: > =================================================== > "...Dimdim Enterprise is used by the following fine organizations: > > * Novell > * Dell > * Red Hat > * Amazon > * Ohio State University > * University of Pennsylvania > * FreeConference > * Duke..." > > Possibly there is an existing Enterprise in place which may be tapped > into? Or this may be only for Red Hat personnel. :) > > Above data is from sidenote on lower left of this URL - > > http://www.dimdim.com/products/dimdim_editions_enterprise.html > =================================================== > Please have a great day and an enjoyable weekened! :~) > > Thank You > Sincerely > =-=-=-=-= > - David - > =-=-=-=-= > David Ramsey > --------------------------------- > ? ??? > ???????? > One stone; two birds. > To kill 2 birds with 1 stone. > --------------------------------- > = > Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey > * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 > (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.i686.PAE > * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - > 2.6.32-0.56.rc8.git1.fc13.i686.PAE > With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA > Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. > = > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- jjm's home: http://www.usebox.net/jjm/ blackshell: http://blackshell.usebox.net/ ramble on: http://rambleon.usebox.net/ From leonardo.vaz at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 12:58:17 2009 From: leonardo.vaz at gmail.com (Leonardo Menezes Vaz) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:58:17 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Manual for new ambassadors Message-ID: <1ff193860912110458r673bcb80l640c77d48bec7ba5@mail.gmail.com> Dear fellows, I am kinda new here and yesterday I was asking Rodrigo Padula for some document/url explaining how the project works, specific areas, people involved, contacts etc so that I could have an idea how things works and where I could be useful. He told all areas are well documented at the wike, but he said he couldn't point a single location (or a toc) for all this information. Since I am new here and I want to understand how things work I propose we could organize a simple guide for new ambassadors - if it's not available yet. ;) How about? Leo -- Leonardo Menezes Vaz ++55 51 91568225 Sent from Meridiani Planum, Mars. From etank at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 11 14:26:51 2009 From: etank at fedoraproject.org (Eric Lake) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:26:51 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Manual for new ambassadors In-Reply-To: <1ff193860912110458r673bcb80l640c77d48bec7ba5@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ff193860912110458r673bcb80l640c77d48bec7ba5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <15c903070912110626x144eccd1p2313ec135af0bd6a@mail.gmail.com> I am still new here as well and I think that this is a great idea. On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Leonardo Menezes Vaz < leonardo.vaz at gmail.com> wrote: > Dear fellows, > > I am kinda new here and yesterday I was asking Rodrigo Padula for some > document/url explaining how the project works, specific areas, people > involved, contacts etc so that I could have an idea how things works > and where I could be useful. He told all areas are well documented at > the wike, but he said he couldn't point a single location (or a toc) > for all this information. > > Since I am new here and I want to understand how things work I propose > we could organize a simple guide for new ambassadors - if it's not > available yet. ;) > > How about? > > Leo > > -- > Leonardo Menezes Vaz > ++55 51 91568225 > > Sent from Meridiani Planum, Mars. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Thanks, Eric Lake -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nacross at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 14:30:08 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:30:08 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Manual for new ambassadors In-Reply-To: <1ff193860912110458r673bcb80l640c77d48bec7ba5@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ff193860912110458r673bcb80l640c77d48bec7ba5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Leonardo Menezes Vaz wrote: > Dear fellows, > > I am kinda new here and yesterday I was asking Rodrigo Padula for some > document/url explaining how the project works, specific areas, people > involved, contacts etc so that I could have an idea how things works > and where I could be useful. He told all areas are well documented at > the wike, but he said he couldn't point a single location (or a toc) > for all this information. > > Since I am new here and I want to understand how things work I propose > we could organize a simple guide for new ambassadors - if it's not > available yet. ;) > > How about? > > Leo > I haven't see a New Ambassador's Handbook. I think it will be useful to improve even more mentors' work. You should ask them to review your work for suggestions when you have some drafts. If you undertake this initiative, I will love to help you. It should be a very interesting way of becoming a knowledgeable ambassador. You not only have to find out what it is to be an Ambassador, but to be able to explain it clearly. -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 14:33:20 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:03:20 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Manual for new ambassadors In-Reply-To: <1ff193860912110458r673bcb80l640c77d48bec7ba5@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ff193860912110458r673bcb80l640c77d48bec7ba5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00912110633jd5f50c2l7d83fd1c2d27a73f@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Leonardo Menezes Vaz wrote: > I am kinda new here and yesterday I was asking Rodrigo Padula for some > document/url explaining how the project works, specific areas, people > involved, contacts etc so that I could have an idea how things works > and where I could be useful. He told all areas are well documented at > the wike, but he said he couldn't point a single location (or a toc) > for all this information. > > Since I am new here and I want to understand how things work I propose > we could organize a simple guide for new ambassadors - if it's not > available yet. ;) Interesting question. Even though there is no "New Ambassador Orientation Handbook", the wiki does a good job of providing start-off points at . On the other hand, there is this small personal project of mine which is lying dormat - details at which is perhaps along the lines of what you ask. It needs more work and help. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia From tristan.santore at internexusconnect.net Fri Dec 11 14:38:56 2009 From: tristan.santore at internexusconnect.net (Tristan Santore) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:38:56 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Manual for new ambassadors In-Reply-To: <35586fc00912110633jd5f50c2l7d83fd1c2d27a73f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ff193860912110458r673bcb80l640c77d48bec7ba5@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912110633jd5f50c2l7d83fd1c2d27a73f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B225980.7020402@internexusconnect.net> On 11/12/09 14:33, sankarshan wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Leonardo Menezes Vaz > wrote: > > >> I am kinda new here and yesterday I was asking Rodrigo Padula for some >> document/url explaining how the project works, specific areas, people >> involved, contacts etc so that I could have an idea how things works >> and where I could be useful. He told all areas are well documented at >> the wike, but he said he couldn't point a single location (or a toc) >> for all this information. >> >> Since I am new here and I want to understand how things work I propose >> we could organize a simple guide for new ambassadors - if it's not >> available yet. ;) >> > Interesting question. Even though there is no "New Ambassador > Orientation Handbook", the wiki does a good job of providing start-off > points at. On the > other hand, there is this small personal project of mine which is > lying dormat - details at > which > is perhaps along the lines of what you ask. It needs more work and > help. > > Although principally not a bad idea to have a handbook, it is easier to maintain/set up a guide on the wiki, than by writing an actual handbook. So, I would suggest keeping it on the wiki itself. Regards, Tristan -- Tristan Santore BSc MBCS TS4523-RIPE Network and Infrastructure Operations InterNexusConnect Mobile +44-78-55069812 Tristan.Santore at internexusconnect.net Thawte Notary For Fedora related issues, please email me at: TSantore at fedoraproject.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The point of all this is having a single place to start, maybe having a small description and links where you can find further information and a Wiki is perfect place for this. So, where do we start? :) Leo -- Leonardo Menezes Vaz ++55 51 91568225 Sent from Meridiani Planum, Mars. From tatica at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 11 14:45:38 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:15:38 -0430 Subject: [Ambassadors] Manual for new ambassadors In-Reply-To: <4B225980.7020402@internexusconnect.net> References: <1ff193860912110458r673bcb80l640c77d48bec7ba5@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912110633jd5f50c2l7d83fd1c2d27a73f@mail.gmail.com> <4B225980.7020402@internexusconnect.net> Message-ID: <27a6293b0912110645i6e54af4n79b766dfa4273d5b@mail.gmail.com> Hello all! This will be a great thing to do. since I start the mentor program, I have been asking several questions to the new ambassadors to help them to join a team and keep working. If we do an "ambassadors handbook" there should be also a "new contributors handbook". We must remember than being an ambassadors should be something that you do after help in some teams. I'm a person who believe that an ambassador must not only do events, because if they want to encourage people to contribute, they should be an example. So, wouldn't be better so start with a compendium of this: http://fedoraproject.org/join-fedora Maybe add to this page some more content or at least a small description, take as reference this one: http://proyectofedora.org/wiki/Participa We already have info pages, but maybe we only need to improve them. bye! :D 2009/12/11 Tristan Santore > On 11/12/09 14:33, sankarshan wrote: > >> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Leonardo Menezes Vaz >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I am kinda new here and yesterday I was asking Rodrigo Padula for some >>> document/url explaining how the project works, specific areas, people >>> involved, contacts etc so that I could have an idea how things works >>> and where I could be useful. He told all areas are well documented at >>> the wike, but he said he couldn't point a single location (or a toc) >>> for all this information. >>> >>> Since I am new here and I want to understand how things work I propose >>> we could organize a simple guide for new ambassadors - if it's not >>> available yet. ;) >>> >>> >> Interesting question. Even though there is no "New Ambassador >> Orientation Handbook", the wiki does a good job of providing start-off >> points at. On the >> other hand, there is this small personal project of mine which is >> lying dormat - details at >> which >> is perhaps along the lines of what you ask. It needs more work and >> help. >> >> >> > Although principally not a bad idea to have a handbook, it is easier to > maintain/set up a guide on the wiki, than by writing an actual handbook. So, > I would suggest keeping it on the wiki itself. > > Regards, > Tristan > > -- > Tristan Santore BSc MBCS > TS4523-RIPE > Network and Infrastructure Operations > InterNexusConnect > Mobile +44-78-55069812 > Tristan.Santore at internexusconnect.net > > Thawte Notary > > For Fedora related issues, please email me at: > TSantore at fedoraproject.org > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nacross at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 14:59:17 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:59:17 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Manual for new ambassadors In-Reply-To: <1ff193860912110644g212d2611ne7ceac1d56e8fc6e@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ff193860912110458r673bcb80l640c77d48bec7ba5@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912110633jd5f50c2l7d83fd1c2d27a73f@mail.gmail.com> <4B225980.7020402@internexusconnect.net> <1ff193860912110644g212d2611ne7ceac1d56e8fc6e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Leonardo Menezes Vaz wrote: >> Although principally not a bad idea to have a handbook, it is easier to >> maintain/set up a guide on the wiki, than by writing an actual handbook. So, >> I would suggest keeping it on the wiki itself. > > I agree with Tristan. The point of all this is having a single place > to start, maybe having a small description and links where you can > find further information and a Wiki is perfect place for this. > > So, where do we start? :) > > Leo > When I said New Ambassador's Handbook, I meant the concept of a handbook. I am completely convinced that it has to be a wiki document. -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 From tristan.santore at internexusconnect.net Fri Dec 11 15:11:38 2009 From: tristan.santore at internexusconnect.net (Tristan Santore) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:11:38 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Manual for new ambassadors In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0912110645i6e54af4n79b766dfa4273d5b@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ff193860912110458r673bcb80l640c77d48bec7ba5@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912110633jd5f50c2l7d83fd1c2d27a73f@mail.gmail.com> <4B225980.7020402@internexusconnect.net> <27a6293b0912110645i6e54af4n79b766dfa4273d5b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B22612A.3080500@internexusconnect.net> On 11/12/09 14:45, Mar?a Leandro wrote: > Hello all! > > This will be a great thing to do. since I start the mentor program, I > have been asking several questions to the new ambassadors to help them > to join a team and keep working. > > If we do an "ambassadors handbook" there should be also a "new > contributors handbook". We must remember than being an ambassadors > should be something that you do after help in some teams. I'm a person > who believe that an ambassador must not only do events, because if > they want to encourage people to contribute, they should be an example. > > So, wouldn't be better so start with a compendium of this: > > http://fedoraproject.org/join-fedora > > Maybe add to this page some more content or at least a small > description, take as reference this one: > > http://proyectofedora.org/wiki/Participa > > We already have info pages, but maybe we only need to improve them. > > bye! :D > > > > 2009/12/11 Tristan Santore > > > On 11/12/09 14:33, sankarshan wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Leonardo Menezes Vaz > > wrote: > > > I am kinda new here and yesterday I was asking Rodrigo > Padula for some > document/url explaining how the project works, specific > areas, people > involved, contacts etc so that I could have an idea how > things works > and where I could be useful. He told all areas are well > documented at > the wike, but he said he couldn't point a single location > (or a toc) > for all this information. > > Since I am new here and I want to understand how things > work I propose > we could organize a simple guide for new ambassadors - if > it's not > available yet. ;) > > Interesting question. Even though there is no "New Ambassador > Orientation Handbook", the wiki does a good job of providing > start-off > points at. > On the > other hand, there is this small personal project of mine which is > lying dormat - details at > which > is perhaps along the lines of what you ask. It needs more work and > help. > > > Although principally not a bad idea to have a handbook, it is > easier to maintain/set up a guide on the wiki, than by writing an > actual handbook. So, I would suggest keeping it on the wiki itself. > > Regards, > Tristan > > -- > Tristan Santore BSc MBCS > TS4523-RIPE > Network and Infrastructure Operations > InterNexusConnect > Mobile +44-78-55069812 > Tristan.Santore at internexusconnect.net > > > Thawte Notary > > For Fedora related issues, please email me at: > TSantore at fedoraproject.org > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Just to clarify something here, although I agree with Maria with regards to the "being involved elsewhere" idea, one of the most important things as ambassadors is to know your stuff, with regards to the Fedora as an OS (how to use it) and what we stand for. Also, I would like to point out, that if you all had read the Join Ambassadors Page, that there is more information there, as to what we expect of you as ambassadors. So many points should be covered there! https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Join As to the point of maybe expanding or clarifying points, I am sure that can be done. Just keep up the noise in the mailing list, and we will make amendments. 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So many points should be covered there! > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Join > > As to the point of maybe expanding or clarifying points, I am sure that can > be done. Just keep up the noise in the mailing list, and we will make > amendments. You should have received this from your mentor: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService#Mentor.27s_first_Answer This contains a lot of useful informations, as well as links to the appropriate wiki pages. Improving those pages and the mentor first answer would probably be a good way to ensure that newcomers receive the proper information. I'm sure your mentor would love it if you wanted to work with him on improving the way he welcomes new ambassadors :) Best regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Fri Dec 11 15:30:26 2009 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:30:26 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Manual for new ambassadors In-Reply-To: <1ff193860912110644g212d2611ne7ceac1d56e8fc6e@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ff193860912110458r673bcb80l640c77d48bec7ba5@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912110633jd5f50c2l7d83fd1c2d27a73f@mail.gmail.com> <4B225980.7020402@internexusconnect.net> <1ff193860912110644g212d2611ne7ceac1d56e8fc6e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B226592.7060106@projetofedora.org> Em 11-12-2009 12:44, Leonardo Menezes Vaz escreveu: >> Although principally not a bad idea to have a handbook, it is easier to >> maintain/set up a guide on the wiki, than by writing an actual handbook. So, >> I would suggest keeping it on the wiki itself. > > I agree with Tristan. The point of all this is having a single place > to start, maybe having a small description and links where you can > find further information and a Wiki is perfect place for this. > > So, where do we start? :) > > Leo > Great Idea Leo! I think we have to do it urgently! The mentoring program and direct interviews proposed by us at FAMSCO last year improved the Ambassadors Program but the level of direct contributions to Fedora (mainly in Latam) are very low. Great part of ambassadors are talking about Fedora, distributing media and are talking all days on IRC. That's good, but we need to improve the level of contributions to keep Fedora growing. We need more people packaging, translating, creating documentation and many other things that contribute directly to Fedora as GNU/Linux Distribution. Guillermo Gomes from Venezuela, Juan M.(Mexico), Matias Maceira(Argentina) and many guys from Brazil are creating a tech group in Latam (RPMDEV) to create documentation and learn/teach about Packaging. The idea is to create a strong packaging group in Latam. By now we have ~10 packagers from Brazil and that number are very small compared with the number of ambassadors in Latam. I think we need to support and help this kind of initiatives around the world to keep growing! We can't stay only in IRC and mail-lists talking, we need to DO MORE! -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Dec 11 15:51:01 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:51:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Manual for new ambassadors In-Reply-To: <1ff193860912110644g212d2611ne7ceac1d56e8fc6e@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ff193860912110458r673bcb80l640c77d48bec7ba5@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912110633jd5f50c2l7d83fd1c2d27a73f@mail.gmail.com> <4B225980.7020402@internexusconnect.net> <1ff193860912110644g212d2611ne7ceac1d56e8fc6e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Leonardo Menezes Vaz wrote: > So, where do we start? :) We start with this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sankarshan/FedoraHandbook and we add to it the content from the Ambassadors classroom -- the next one will be held after the New Year. And we go from there. Someone needs to own the idea though. Start with a wiki page called "New Ambassadors Handbook" and move ideas from the mailing list to that page, and we build from that point. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Dec 11 15:52:17 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:52:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Fedora Meeting Today 1830UTC #fedora-meeting In-Reply-To: <1260519016.2283.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20091206125338.7ea6a2e7@mrtomlinux.org> <1260519016.2283.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Pierre-Yves wrote: > I will therefore come back to you by email next week to debrief > quickly with you how we are doing and what are our needs. Sounds good -- we can also have a conversation face to face at FOSDEM with all Ambassadors, both from France and elsewhere. I am 90% certain that I will attend. --Max From leonardo.vaz at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 16:14:28 2009 From: leonardo.vaz at gmail.com (Leonardo Menezes Vaz) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:14:28 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Manual for new ambassadors In-Reply-To: <4B226592.7060106@projetofedora.org> References: <1ff193860912110458r673bcb80l640c77d48bec7ba5@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912110633jd5f50c2l7d83fd1c2d27a73f@mail.gmail.com> <4B225980.7020402@internexusconnect.net> <1ff193860912110644g212d2611ne7ceac1d56e8fc6e@mail.gmail.com> <4B226592.7060106@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <1ff193860912110814y40ce7997p7ca9691b6daaa073@mail.gmail.com> > Great Idea Leo! > > I think we have to do it urgently! I'll be starting it as soon as I can. Any idea/suggestion for name at the wiki? > The mentoring program and direct interviews proposed by us at FAMSCO > last year improved the Ambassadors Program but the level of direct > contributions to Fedora (mainly in Latam) are very low. IMHO we need try to understand the reasons for this kind of behavior and define strategies to change it. > Great part of ambassadors are talking about Fedora, distributing media > and are talking all days on IRC. That's good, but ?we need to improve > the level of contributions to keep Fedora growing. We need more people > packaging, translating, creating documentation and many other things > that contribute directly to Fedora as GNU/Linux Distribution. I agree with Padula. Many people here think that being an Ambassador means just giving talks once while and/or redistributing free media sponsored by the project. We know that's a great effort, but doing just it they'll not bring valuable things to the project as people in other parts of the world do. > Guillermo Gomes from Venezuela, Juan M.(Mexico), Matias > Maceira(Argentina) and many guys from Brazil are creating a tech group > in Latam (RPMDEV) to create documentation and learn/teach about > Packaging. The idea is to create a strong packaging group in Latam. By > now we have ~10 packagers from Brazil and that number are very small > compared with the number of ambassadors in Latam. I'm just waiting for the official announcement of F13 schedule so that I can announce a FAD in Brazil in early 2010. The idea is gathering as many Ambassadors and Developers as possible in Sao Paulo for 2-3 days and work on F13 related stuff. Some people will work in translations, other in packaging, other will hunt for bugs, other will try to fix it and so on. Since we'll have skilled people at the conference, we may also have short tutorial sessions so that people can teach other participants how to package, translate etc. All sessions probably will be recorded so that people who can't afford or be able to travel to S?o Paulo to attend can learn from the videos. We are not expecting being funded by the project for this conference and it probably will take place in some easy access place such as an University or School. Each Ambassador will pay for his travel expenses and I hope having something between 20-30 people plus local participants. Leo -- Leonardo Menezes Vaz ++55 51 91568225 Sent from Meridiani Planum, Mars. From hacataka at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 15:49:50 2009 From: hacataka at gmail.com (Hacataka Comodo) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:49:50 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] LATAM: What is done, and the real problems that nobody tells In-Reply-To: <4B17B7CE.4070505@projetofedora.org> References: <27a6293b0912020446h78d10933hd7ed9867b65b4e06@mail.gmail.com> <4B17205C.5030203@projetofedora.org> <20091203025238.GU3563@victoria.internal.frields.org> <27a6293b0912030435x2a6ebb93ue1782d4075afdc2@mail.gmail.com> <4B17B7CE.4070505@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: Fedorianos greetings I have read the email tatica and for this we'd talked before, in Per? can count on our support for programmers, developers or support, in Per? the work is set and we have 8 volunteers of whom are present and trying seimpre dvd giving organizing events in their universities and promoting the use of Fedora. our contribution has made in Peru increased by 70% usage by students and Fedora Linux enthusiasts to try and stay with the Fedora distribution. the effort has been made in Peru, are nonprofit and contribute to the present day to further promote Fedora, we are ready to contribute our efforts directly to fedora without neglecting to get more Fedora users in Peru. will be the responsibility expected of some Peruvian ambassador to guide us in what we can to help and this is just the beginning, because we have many projects in mind. awaiting a response este no se si mi ingles es muy bueno jejejeje aaaa yungay.....!!! HACATAKA 2009/12/3 Rodrigo Padula : > > What part of "DO NOT REPLY THIS EMAIL THREAD" you do not understand? > > > Please, STOP here and go to correct the internal problems that you have > in your country with your fellows! > > > Em 03-12-2009 10:35, Mar?a Leandro escreveu: >> I agree with you Paul. >> >> Venezuela issue is something that we talk privately and wasn't related >> to this mail thread. If Max want to share which are the specific >> problems that Venezuela is having, I'll be glad to get a meeting to >> explain better how our local community was disappointed by some >> decisions... but we keep working. >> >> I apologize myself if I hurt some feeling, there are so many things that >> I want to talk; but usually nobody answer local issues because work >> issues or doesn't have the time. >> >> We are a great community down here in LATAM who is growing up slowly but >> strong. and I really don't believe in any "crisis latam/ve"; I will like >> to point a fact to end this thread. >> >> We all have differences, and sometime some egos are hurt. For me; I did >> but that page is turn to keep working like I do. Facts are that fedora >> latam has almost 130 ambassadors, and I only have differences with 2 >> what represents less that 1%. So there is not a crisis. People is >> working, and I apologize again because I know I might me to abrupt. >> >> Thank you all, nice day >> >> 2009/12/2 Paul W. Frields > >> >> ? ? The disagreement that is motivating this discussion is obviously a >> ? ? problem we need to address. ?Max Spevack and I are looking into it and >> ? ? talking to some of the people involved. >> >> ? ? Until we have a better idea what the problems are and how to solve >> ? ? them, I would like this thread to be considered closed. ?Normally I >> ? ? would not make such a statement, but in its current state this thread >> ? ? isn't likely to lead to constructive solutions. >> >> ? ? Please do not respond further here. ?Thanks. >> >> ? ? -- >> ? ? Paul W. Frields ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?http://paul.frields.org/ >> ? ? ?gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 ?5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 >> ? ? ?http://redhat.com/ ? - ?- ?- ?- ? http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ >> ? ? ?irc.freenode.net : stickster @ >> ? ? #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug >> >> ? ? -- >> ? ? Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> ? ? Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> ? ? >> ? ? https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> >> >> -- >> tatica >> Maria Gracia Leandro >> http://www.tatica.org >> http://www.fedora-ve.org >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro >> LinuxUser= 440285 >> GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 >> "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" >> >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > Fedora Community Manager - Latin America > Red Hat Community and Academy Relations > http://www.proyectofedora.org > http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula > http://www.rodrigopadula.com > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- HACATAKA Fedora Ambassador for Peru hacataka at fedoraproject.org http://bitacorahelpdesk.blogspot.com/ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hacataka From hacataka at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 15:59:40 2009 From: hacataka at gmail.com (Hacataka Comodo) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:59:40 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Manual for new ambassadors In-Reply-To: References: <1ff193860912110458r673bcb80l640c77d48bec7ba5@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912110633jd5f50c2l7d83fd1c2d27a73f@mail.gmail.com> <4B225980.7020402@internexusconnect.net> <1ff193860912110644g212d2611ne7ceac1d56e8fc6e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: if it is good idea but we all need to organize and where possible each year to add something more to the manual or maybe see some things change, the same users ambassador or taxpayers. HACATAKA 2009/12/11 Max Spevack : > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Leonardo Menezes Vaz wrote: > >> So, where do we start? :) > > We start with this: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sankarshan/FedoraHandbook > > and we add to it the content from the Ambassadors classroom -- the next one > will be held after the New Year. > > And we go from there. ?Someone needs to own the idea though. ?Start with a > wiki page called "New Ambassadors Handbook" and move ideas from the mailing > list to that page, and we build from that point. > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- HACATAKA Fedora Ambassador for Peru hacataka at fedoraproject.org http://bitacorahelpdesk.blogspot.com/ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hacataka From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 17:37:11 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:07:11 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Manual for new ambassadors In-Reply-To: <1ff193860912110814y40ce7997p7ca9691b6daaa073@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ff193860912110458r673bcb80l640c77d48bec7ba5@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912110633jd5f50c2l7d83fd1c2d27a73f@mail.gmail.com> <4B225980.7020402@internexusconnect.net> <1ff193860912110644g212d2611ne7ceac1d56e8fc6e@mail.gmail.com> <4B226592.7060106@projetofedora.org> <1ff193860912110814y40ce7997p7ca9691b6daaa073@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00912110937x1e612306s82e98791f3706d74@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Leonardo Menezes Vaz wrote: >> Great Idea Leo! >> >> I think we have to do it urgently! > > I'll be starting it as soon as I can. > > Any idea/suggestion for name at the wiki? > >> The mentoring program and direct interviews proposed by us at FAMSCO >> last year improved the Ambassadors Program but the level of direct >> contributions to Fedora (mainly in Latam) are very low. > > IMHO we need try to understand the reasons for this kind of behavior > and define strategies to change it. Indeed. But you do need to realize, contributions do not come out of the woodwork, a significant bit of heavy-lifting (sometimes behind-the-scenes too) is involved. I am sure that with a proper plan, stunning outcome can happen. > I agree with Padula. Many people here think that being an Ambassador > means just giving talks once while and/or redistributing free media > sponsored by the project. We know that's a great effort, but doing > just it they'll not bring valuable things to the project as people in > other parts of the world do. If you meant the Ambassador community in general when you wrote 'here', you'd be surprised. It has been a general trend in Fedora that the initial group of Ambassadors have always been those who "get it" or, have been doing things the FOSS way for a longer period of time. With newer Ambassadors one has to slowly ease them into the project and, let them figure out a place to get involved. Having direct involvement in a project allows them to tell their own stories when they are presenting. Audiences love personal experiences - it makes a boring speech real. To build up good Ambassadors one has to work with all contributors to Fedora within a region. Pooling in experiences help a lot. >> Guillermo Gomes from Venezuela, Juan M.(Mexico), Matias >> Maceira(Argentina) and many guys from Brazil are creating a tech group >> in Latam (RPMDEV) to create documentation and learn/teach about >> Packaging. The idea is to create a strong packaging group in Latam. By >> now we have ~10 packagers from Brazil and that number are very small >> compared with the number of ambassadors in Latam. The above is a nice start. Having such focus groups around other parts of the Project like Websites, Infrastructure, Artwork would go a long way in letting potential contributors feel that "yes ! I too can do something". Creating videos from the sessions would help make things easy too. However, the trick is to push the contributors upstream into Fedora as a whole. It is always a good thing to start small and local with mentors-at-hand, but once there is a level of confidence, going on to the big stage helps things a lot. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay From luca at foppiano.org Fri Dec 11 19:40:32 2009 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:40:32 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] cerea fair - budget request In-Reply-To: References: <4B1E13E4.8070003@foppiano.org> <200912081559.41856.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <200912081603.26545.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4B22A030.10403@foppiano.org> On 12/11/2009 06:04 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Tue, 8 Dec 2009, Joerg Simon wrote: > >>> sure Luca we will try to do our best - can you please file a ticket >>> here: https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ >> >> ticket is already submitted https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/34 > > It's no problem at all, Luca. For relatively small requests like > these, folks don't really even need to ask. Save your receipts, and > we'll do a PayPal reimbursement after the event, if that works for you. Good! Just to know, for the CDs/gadget is there someone that have some left stuffs, that can send to us? Thanks Luca From guillermo.gomez at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 19:41:02 2009 From: guillermo.gomez at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?R3VpbGxlcm1vIEfDs21leg==?=) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:11:02 -0430 Subject: [Ambassadors] Manual for new ambassadors In-Reply-To: <35586fc00912110937x1e612306s82e98791f3706d74@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ff193860912110458r673bcb80l640c77d48bec7ba5@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912110633jd5f50c2l7d83fd1c2d27a73f@mail.gmail.com> <4B225980.7020402@internexusconnect.net> <1ff193860912110644g212d2611ne7ceac1d56e8fc6e@mail.gmail.com> <4B226592.7060106@projetofedora.org> <1ff193860912110814y40ce7997p7ca9691b6daaa073@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912110937x1e612306s82e98791f3706d74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B22A04E.7060404@gmail.com> El 11/12/09 13:07, sankarshan escribi?: > >>> Guillermo Gomes from Venezuela, Juan M.(Mexico), Matias >>> Maceira(Argentina) and many guys from Brazil are creating a tech group >>> in Latam (RPMDEV) to create documentation and learn/teach about >>> Packaging. The idea is to create a strong packaging group in Latam. By >>> now we have ~10 packagers from Brazil and that number are very small >>> compared with the number of ambassadors in Latam. > > The above is a nice start. Having such focus groups around other parts > of the Project like Websites, Infrastructure, Artwork would go a long > way in letting potential contributors feel that "yes ! I too can do > something". Creating videos from the sessions would help make things > easy too. However, the trick is to push the contributors upstream into > Fedora as a whole. It is always a good thing to start small and local > with mentors-at-hand, but once there is a level of confidence, going > on to the big stage helps things a lot. > Probably the main motive of this project is "to focus" on building non-marketing focused groups but devel/packaging oriented in latam region. We will be announcing this year a complete project management tool with a devel cycle version named after Fedora 13 hoping we can recruit and prepare developers and packagers planning contributing upstream in sync with F13 release. The whole idea of the project is to help latam enthusiasts to join Fedora developers and packagers global comunity (we are not looking to create an outsider repo or alike, rpmfusion will be a second option for packagers). Documentation will be of course start with partial or total translations about rpm/packaging in our infrastructure. We will also try to help specific language programmers to meet and share experiences programming in fedora (mainly). Guillermo ------------------------ http://www.neotechgw.com http://gomix.fedora-ve.org From nacross at gmail.com Fri Dec 11 19:53:48 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:53:48 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Manual for new ambassadors In-Reply-To: <4B22A04E.7060404@gmail.com> References: <1ff193860912110458r673bcb80l640c77d48bec7ba5@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912110633jd5f50c2l7d83fd1c2d27a73f@mail.gmail.com> <4B225980.7020402@internexusconnect.net> <1ff193860912110644g212d2611ne7ceac1d56e8fc6e@mail.gmail.com> <4B226592.7060106@projetofedora.org> <1ff193860912110814y40ce7997p7ca9691b6daaa073@mail.gmail.com> <35586fc00912110937x1e612306s82e98791f3706d74@mail.gmail.com> <4B22A04E.7060404@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2009/12/11 Guillermo G?mez : > > Probably the main motive of this project is "to focus" on building > non-marketing focused groups but devel/packaging oriented in latam region. > > We will be announcing this year a complete project management tool with a > devel cycle version named after Fedora 13 hoping we can recruit and prepare > developers and packagers planning contributing upstream in sync with F13 > release. > > The whole idea of the project is to help latam enthusiasts to join Fedora > developers and packagers global comunity (we are not looking to create an > outsider repo or alike, rpmfusion will be a second option for packagers). > > Documentation will be of course start with partial or total translations > about rpm/packaging in our infrastructure. We will also try to help specific > language programmers to meet and share experiences programming in fedora > (mainly). > > Guillermo > I will encourage Leo to focus on what he wants to achieve with his document. For instance, sankarshan has a great structure that will benefit ideas from Rodrigo, Tatica and Guillermo. Because they see the benefits about recruiting all kind of contributors. It is good and I can not go against that. But if Leo want to make a good document for helping specifically Ambassadors in their first steps, then I think Leo can pursue that objective. Mentors and Ambassadors may benefit a lot from that. It is more easy to finish one specific guide. If then another person want to make the "handbook" for arts/design people, packagers, translators, bug chasers... then we may have a small collection of guides to contribute with Fedora. -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 11 20:11:19 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (Joerg Simon) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:11:19 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Manual for new ambassadors In-Reply-To: <1ff193860912110458r673bcb80l640c77d48bec7ba5@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ff193860912110458r673bcb80l640c77d48bec7ba5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200912112111.22139.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Hi Leonardo, welcome to the group, i have not read the entire thread i am on travel right now and can not read it all - sorry - but some thoughts On Friday 11 December 2009 13:58:17 Leonardo Menezes Vaz wrote: > I am kinda new here and yesterday I was asking Rodrigo Padula for some > document/url explaining how the project works, specific areas, people > involved, contacts etc so that I could have an idea how things works > and where I could be useful. He told all areas are well documented at > the wike, but he said he couldn't point a single location (or a toc) > for all this information. How the Ambassadors Group works is indeed easy to obtain from the wiki. To learn how the Fedora Project works is something complete different! This is the reason why we do not encourage Candidates to start with the Ambassador Group. Mentors should point new Candidates to other Groups first, to learn the structures and the way to contribute. Btw. normaly every Ambassador should contribute at least to one other Group within the Fedora Project! > Since I am new here and I want to understand how things work I propose > we could organize a simple guide for new ambassadors - if it's not > available yet. ;) Mapping can maybe give a snapshot of the Fedora Project in it's current state. Clint has started something related to this. http://sexysexypenguins.com/2008/11/21/mind-maps-the-fedora-project/ I do not think you can learn the Fedora Project from a Book or a Manual you have to work in the Project and put some effort and time in exploring and learning. cu Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Dec 11 21:51:45 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:51:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] cerea fair - budget request In-Reply-To: <4B22A030.10403@foppiano.org> References: <4B1E13E4.8070003@foppiano.org> <200912081559.41856.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <200912081603.26545.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <4B22A030.10403@foppiano.org> Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Luca Foppiano wrote: > Just to know, for the CDs/gadget is there someone that have some left > stuffs, that can send to us? I'm checking on the current status of the F12 media. --Max From pingou at pingoured.fr Fri Dec 11 23:33:38 2009 From: pingou at pingoured.fr (pingou at pingoured.fr) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:33:38 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Fedora Meeting Today 1830UTC #fedora-meeting In-Reply-To: References: <20091206125338.7ea6a2e7@mrtomlinux.org> <1260519016.2283.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20091211233338.GA12388@cyan.pingoured.fr> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:52:17AM -0500, Max Spevack wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Pierre-Yves wrote: > > >I will therefore come back to you by email next week to debrief > >quickly with you how we are doing and what are our needs. > > Sounds good -- we can also have a conversation face to face at > FOSDEM with all Ambassadors, both from France and elsewhere. I am > 90% certain that I will attend. > I am 99% sure, and I am sure that I will not be the only one from France to attend. I am also sure that we would be really pleased to speak with you face to face at this occasion Best regards, Pierre From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Sat Dec 12 00:36:44 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:36:44 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Red Hat Virtual Experience report In-Reply-To: <1260519685.9070.9.camel@osvlap01> References: <20018167.756.1260401842654.JavaMail.root@mail.montanalinux.org>,, , ,, , , <1260519685.9070.9.camel@osvlap01> Message-ID: > Subject: RE: [Ambassadors] Red Hat Virtual Experience report > From: jjm at usebox.net > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:21:25 +0100 Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) Juanjo, thank you for your posts. :) > Just wanted to point that Dimdim Free Edition != Dimdim Open Source Community Edition. > There's no doc about OSE features (the brochures in their webpage only refers to the Free edition that has the 20 participants limit). Here are a couple links with more information on the OSE - Open Source Edition - http://www.dimdim.com/opensource/dimdim_open_source_community_edition.html Open Source License - http://www.dimdim.com/opensource/dimdim_license.html > Somebody has tried Dimdim OSE? No, but you may find this url of assistance in seeing how the Dimdim has been for others. :) dimdim web meeting > Forums - http://sourceforge.net/projects/dimdim/forums Please have a great day and an enjoyable weekend! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey --------------------------------- ???? ???????? 10 people 10 colors Different strokes for different folks --------------------------------- = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32-0.56.rc8.git1.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Sat Dec 12 00:39:31 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:39:31 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] A friendly reminder for the APAC meeting on Sunday, December 13th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC :) In-Reply-To: References: <4A8B7C3C.2040500@aim.com>, , , , , , , , Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) A friendly reminder for the APAC meeting on Sunday, December 13th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC :) ======================================== Day : Sunday, December 13th, 2009 Time : 07:00 UTC See the following URL to check and verify your own timing based on your location - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=12&day=13&hour=07&min=0&sec=0 Channel : #fedora-meeting https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-12-13 For any proposed changes to the draft agenda, then please update - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-12-13#Agenda ======================================== I hope that you may be able to attend. :) Sending positive Fedora 12 energy from my computer to yours as well as thinking about Fedora 13, "Goddard" in the future! :v) Please have a great day and an enjoyable week! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32-0.56.rc8.git1.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From herson at azneita.org Sat Dec 12 08:40:07 2009 From: herson at azneita.org (Heherson Pagcaliwagan) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:40:07 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] A friendly reminder for the APAC meeting on Sunday, December 13th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC :) In-Reply-To: References: <4A8B7C3C.2040500@aim.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 8:39 AM, David Ramsey wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > Greetings.? :) > > A friendly reminder for the APAC meeting on Sunday, December 13th, 2009 at > 07:00 UTC? :) > > ======================================== > > Day : Sunday, December 13th, 2009 > > Time : 07:00 UTC > > See the following URL to check and verify your own timing based on your > location - > > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=12&day=13&hour=07&min=0&sec=0 > > Channel : #fedora-meeting > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-12-13 > > For any proposed changes to the draft agenda, then please update - > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-12-13#Agenda > > ======================================== > > I hope that you may be able to attend.? :) > David and others! My mom will be in town tomorrow and so I may not be able to join you. I'll just read the logs. Have fun! > Sending positive Fedora 12 energy from my computer to yours as well as > thinking about Fedora 13, "Goddard" in the future!? :v) > > Please have a great day and an enjoyable week!? :~) > > Thank You > Sincerely > =-=-=-=-= > - David - > =-=-=-=-= > David Ramsey > = > Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey > * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) > kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.i686.PAE > * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - > 2.6.32-0.56.rc8.git1.fc13.i686.PAE > With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate > 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. > = > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Heherson Pagcaliwagan http://project.azneita.org +63.908.885.5428 From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Sun Dec 13 08:19:05 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 03:19:05 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FYI, here are the APAC meeting notes from Sunday, December 13th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: <4A8B7C3C.2040500@aim.com>, , , Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) FYI, here are the APAC meeting notes from Sunday, October 25th, 2009 at 03:00 UTC - ======================= #fedora-meeting Meeting ======================= http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.txt http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.html ======= Full logs - ======= http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.log.txt http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.log.html ============== A couple highlights: ============== * born2linux and magie are planning some Release Party F12. :) Also, we are considering the 8th, 15th or 22nd for the next date. :) Please provide feedback and we will plan accordingly. :v) Please have a great day! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.htmlWith eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Sun Dec 13 08:54:54 2009 From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:54:54 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FYI, here are the APAC meeting notes from Sunday, December 13th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: <4A8B7C3C.2040500@aim.com> Message-ID: Dear all, I've just missed the meeting by one hour. :( I had things to discuss about my release party, anyway, reading logs. On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 2:19 PM, David Ramsey wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > Greetings. :) > > FYI, here are the APAC meeting notes from Sunday, October 25th, 2009 at > 03:00 UTC - > > ======================= > #fedora-meeting Meeting > ======================= > > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.txt > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.html > > ======= > Full logs - > ======= > > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.log.txt > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.log.html > > ============== > A couple highlights: > ============== > > * born2linux and magie are planning some Release Party F12. :) > > Also, we are considering the 8th, 15th or 22nd for the next date. :) > > Please provide feedback and we will plan accordingly. :v) > > Please have a great day! :~) > > Thank You > Sincerely > =-=-=-=-= > - David - > =-=-=-=-= > David Ramsey > = > Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.htmlWitheight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 > 500 GB harddisks. > = > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- ----------------------- Mahay Alam Khan gpg key: 4FDD30FB http://twitpic.com/photos/mahayalamkhan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tuanta at iwayvietnam.com Sun Dec 13 09:28:44 2009 From: tuanta at iwayvietnam.com (Truong Anh. Tuan) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:28:44 +0700 (ICT) Subject: [Ambassadors] FYI, here are the APAC meeting notes from Sunday, December 13th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <19846669.381260696524193.JavaMail.root@z.iwayvietnam.com> ----- "mak" wrote: > Dear all, > I've just missed the meeting by one hour. :( I had things to discuss > about my release party, anyway, reading logs. > I also missed the event, sorry! I planned for it but at the last time, I have to go onsite to my client to support them (also Fedora Linux, of course :). See all of you next time. Kind regards, Tuan > > On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 2:19 PM, David Ramsey < > diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com > wrote: > > > > Hello Everyone, > > Greetings. :) > > FYI, here are the APAC meeting notes from Sunday, October 25th, 2009 > at 03:00 UTC - > > ======================= > #fedora-meeting Meeting > ======================= > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.txt > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.html > > ======= > Full logs - > ======= > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.log.txt > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.log.html > > ============== > A couple highlights: > ============== > > * born2linux and magie are planning some Release Party F12. :) > > Also, we are considering the 8th, 15th or 22nd for the next date. :) > > Please provide feedback and we will plan accordingly. :v) > > Please have a great day! :~) > > Thank You > Sincerely > =-=-=-=-= > - David - > =-=-=-=-= > David Ramsey > = > Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.htmlWith > eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate > 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. > = > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > ----------------------- > Mahay Alam Khan > gpg key: 4FDD30FB > http://twitpic.com/photos/mahayalamkhan > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From pingou at pingoured.fr Sun Dec 13 11:22:27 2009 From: pingou at pingoured.fr (pingou at pingoured.fr) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 12:22:27 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER *NO* French Fedora Meeting Today 1830UTC #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20091213112227.GA32036@cyan.pingoured.fr> There will be *NO* French Fedora meeting today on irc due to the event in Paris. Il n'y aura pas de r?union sur irc ce soir pour cause des RF12 ? Paris. Bonne journ?e, P,Yves From ppapadeas at gmail.com Sun Dec 13 12:33:29 2009 From: ppapadeas at gmail.com (Pierros Papadeas) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:33:29 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Summary: Fedora 12 Athens Release Party 12/12 Message-ID: <21461b360912130433t51c0742sf15ff660a0ef4a01@mail.gmail.com> Dear fellow Ambassadors and Greek Fedorians! Yesterday we held in Athens our Fedora 12 Release Party with much success! Many people showed up to learn about our Constantine and Fedora Project in general :) Anastasis and me gave a presentation on Fedora Project and Fedora 12 (can be found here [1]) and afterwards we did some hands-on testing on network sharing, virtualization enhancements, Moblin platform and other hints on support! We even had a Fedora-Birthday-Cake :) Many swag were given out and as always Live-USB sticks were made! Check out the photo album from the event here [2] (from Thalia) Many thanks to my fellow organizers (Anastasis, Thalia and Pantelis) and to everyone else who attended! ~? [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F12_Athens [2] http://picasaweb.google.gr/saliyath/Fedora12AthensReleaseParty -- Pierros Papadeas PGP key: 0x6130DBF8 http://pierros.papadeas.gr pierros at papadeas.gr liknus @ GRnet , Freenode -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From herson at azneita.org Sun Dec 13 12:39:05 2009 From: herson at azneita.org (Heherson Pagcaliwagan) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:39:05 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] FYI, here are the APAC meeting notes from Sunday, December 13th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: <4A8B7C3C.2040500@aim.com> Message-ID: David, They're all from last October. Where's the log for the meeting earlier today? Is the subject wrong :) On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 4:19 PM, David Ramsey wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > Greetings.? :) > > FYI, here are the APAC meeting notes from Sunday, October 25th, 2009 at > 03:00 UTC - > > ======================= > #fedora-meeting Meeting > ======================= > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.txt > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.html > > ======= > Full logs - > ======= > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.log.txt > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.log.html > > ============== > A couple highlights: > ============== > > * born2linux and magie are planning some Release Party F12.? :) > > Also, we are considering the 8th, 15th or 22nd for the next date.? :) > > Please provide feedback and we will plan accordingly.? :v) > > Please have a great day!? :~) > > Thank You > Sincerely > =-=-=-=-= > - David - > =-=-=-=-= > David Ramsey > = > Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.htmlWith > eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 > 500 GB harddisks. > = > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Heherson Pagcaliwagan http://project.azneita.org +63.908.885.5428 From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Sun Dec 13 13:24:20 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:24:20 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FYI, here are the APAC meeting notes from Sunday, December 13th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: <4A8B7C3C.2040500@aim.com>, , , , Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) Mahay, thank you for your post. :) > I've just missed the meeting by one hour. :( I had things to discuss about my release party, anyway, reading logs. Understood, please review and we will touch base in a couple weeks to see how things are going! :) Best to you on your Fedora release party! :v) Please have a great evening! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:54:54 +0600 Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] FYI, here are the APAC meeting notes from Sunday, December 13th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Dear all, I've just missed the meeting by one hour. :( I had things to discuss about my release party, anyway, reading logs. On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 2:19 PM, David Ramsey wrote: Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) FYI, here are the APAC meeting notes from Sunday, October 25th, 2009 at 03:00 UTC - ======================= #fedora-meeting Meeting ======================= http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.txt http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.html ======= Full logs - ======= http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.log.txt http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.log.html ============== A couple highlights: ============== * born2linux and magie are planning some Release Party F12. :) Also, we are considering the 8th, 15th or 22nd for the next date. :) Please provide feedback and we will plan accordingly. :v) Please have a great day! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.htmlWith eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- ----------------------- Mahay Alam Khan gpg key: 4FDD30FB http://twitpic.com/photos/mahayalamkhan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tatica at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 13 13:24:37 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:54:37 -0430 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 12 Release Party - Caracas Message-ID: <27a6293b0912130524o57525193p9cf5d074d7675ac7@mail.gmail.com> Hello Ambassadors! Yesterday we had the Fedora 12 Release Party in Caracas. We had near 30 people attending to the hacklab that we made with a small design and RPM package workshop. Also, several ambassadors came and help with the attendees. Also, Guillermo Gomex (gomix) made the official presentation of RPMDEV; which is a RPM packagers incubator. We give several Live CD with stickers and tattoos and after the release, we all have a great lunch. I can say that we have several goals. First, we were expecting near 15 people, but we have almost 30 person. Also some ambassadors who had a time inactive came to join us again, and we plan to have every 2 month a fedora hacklab, to teach people to be productive using fedora and encourage them to join the team helping fedora, not only using it. Also, all pc's were running a live cd, because I couldn't get permission to install them. I want to give a speciall thanks to Edwind Contreras (Richzendy) who gave an excelent RPM workshop, to Guillermo G?mez (gomix) who bring awesome ideas, to Wilmer Jaramillo (k0k) who is "coming to town" again and he can encourage new users to be developers like he is, to Ricardo Fernandez (KOSHrf) who cheer up us all at every moment. We also have the active participation of a Loco team member (from ubuntu - Santiago Zarate) and Ricardo Hernandez, who is an awesome Arch user, and we all be able to share knowledge and make a brainstorm about other distros. I want to thank all who gave me the support and encourage me to do this Release Party. My contribution was only sho the attendees how to join our community, how to ask for support, join and handle mail list and a *morning* overview of what Fedora 12 can offer them to their daily routine. Here you can find some photos and some videos, thank you all for read this :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/sets/72157622973046968/ http://tatica.blip.tv http://tatica.org/2009/12/12/fedora-release-party-caracas/ -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sounds good! :) Please have a great day! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32-0.56.rc8.git1.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = > Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:28:44 +0700 > From: tuanta at iwayvietnam.com > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] FYI, here are the APAC meeting notes from Sunday, December 13th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC > > > ----- "mak" wrote: > > > Dear all, > > I've just missed the meeting by one hour. :( I had things to discuss > > about my release party, anyway, reading logs. > > > > I also missed the event, sorry! > I planned for it but at the last time, I have to go onsite to my client to support them (also Fedora Linux, of course :). > > See all of you next time. > > Kind regards, > Tuan > > > > > On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 2:19 PM, David Ramsey < > > diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > Greetings. :) > > > > FYI, here are the APAC meeting notes from Sunday, October 25th, 2009 > > at 03:00 UTC - > > > > ======================= > > #fedora-meeting Meeting > > ======================= > > > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.txt > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.html > > > > ======= > > Full logs - > > ======= > > > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.log.txt > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.log.html > > > > ============== > > A couple highlights: > > ============== > > > > * born2linux and magie are planning some Release Party F12. :) > > > > Also, we are considering the 8th, 15th or 22nd for the next date. :) > > > > Please provide feedback and we will plan accordingly. :v) > > > > Please have a great day! :~) > > > > Thank You > > Sincerely > > =-=-=-=-= > > - David - > > =-=-=-=-= > > David Ramsey > > = > > Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.htmlWith > > eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate > > 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. > > = > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ----------------------- > > Mahay Alam Khan > > gpg key: 4FDD30FB > > http://twitpic.com/photos/mahayalamkhan > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is the subject wrong :) ======================= #fedora-meeting Meeting ======================= http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.txt http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.html ======= Full logs - ======= http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.log.txt http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.log.html I have not updated the Wiki yet...having a problem logging into to do the update... ;) Please have a great evening! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32-0.56.rc8.git1.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = > Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:39:05 +0800 > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] FYI, here are the APAC meeting notes from Sunday, December 13th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC > From: herson at azneita.org > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > David, > > They're all from last October. Where's the log for the meeting earlier > today? Is the subject wrong :) > > On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 4:19 PM, David Ramsey > wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > > > Greetings. :) > > > > FYI, here are the APAC meeting notes from Sunday, October 25th, 2009 at > > 03:00 UTC - > > > > ======================= > > #fedora-meeting Meeting > > ======================= > > > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.txt > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.html > > > > ======= > > Full logs - > > ======= > > > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.log.txt > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.log.html > > > > ============== > > A couple highlights: > > ============== > > > > * born2linux and magie are planning some Release Party F12. :) > > > > Also, we are considering the 8th, 15th or 22nd for the next date. :) > > > > Please provide feedback and we will plan accordingly. :v) > > > > Please have a great day! :~) > > > > Thank You > > Sincerely > > =-=-=-=-= > > - David - > > =-=-=-=-= > > David Ramsey > > = > > Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey > > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-13/fedora-meeting.2009-12-13-07.13.htmlWith > > eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 > > 500 GB harddisks. > > = > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > -- > Heherson Pagcaliwagan > http://project.azneita.org > +63.908.885.5428 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Larry Cafiero On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > Your Excellencies, > > I talk on behalf of Nihed MBAREK, Wael AMMAR and my self. > > We've been silent for a while, but we were not sleeping. > > We started a lobbying strategy around fedora in the universities by > creating local "Fedora Clubs". > > We already have 2 clubs: > - one in ISET Charguia: http://www.isetch.rnu.tn - public university > - one in ESPRIT: www.esprit.ens.tn - private university > > ISET CH already had their first activities which are: > - a private mirror: create by my self > - a release party of F12, (will have it's event page), where we gave 4 > conferences > -----> What's new in Fedora 12, by Nihed > -----> Virtualization, by Imed Chihi, former Red Hat employee > -----> How to contribute to Fedora, by my self > -----> Perenity of Open source software, by our friend Mohamed Nejib Bejar > -----> We had a real celebration, Cake, sodas ... candies .... > - they soon we be migrating anything in their school to Fedora (or > CentOS), and > - they will start as soon as possible translating and contributing. > > kind regards, > Zied. > > -- > Zied FAKHFAKH > Dot TN - CTO > > @: fzied at dottn.com > t: +216 71 82 89 58 > f: +216 71 82 89 58 > w: http://www.dottn.com > a: Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 - Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis - Tunisia > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Sun Dec 13 23:37:22 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:37:22 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 12 Release Party - Caracas In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0912130524o57525193p9cf5d074d7675ac7@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0912130524o57525193p9cf5d074d7675ac7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:54:37 -0430 > From: tatica at fedoraproject.org > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 12 Release Party - Caracas ... > I want to thank all who gave me the support and encourage me to do this Release Party. My contribution was only sho the attendees how to join our community, how to ask for support, join and handle mail list and a *morning* overview of what Fedora 12 can offer them to their daily routine. > > > Here you can find some photos and some videos, thank you all for read this :) > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/sets/72157622973046968/ > > http://tatica.blip.tv > http://tatica.org/2009/12/12/fedora-release-party-caracas/ Hello Fellow Ambassadors, Greetings. :) Maria, fantastic posting! :) Good job! :v) Please have a great day! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32-0.56.rc8.git1.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > > > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Sun Dec 13 23:39:16 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:39:16 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora proyect on panama news paper In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > From: aeperezt at hotmail.com > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:55:43 -0500 > Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora proyect on panama news paper Hello Fellow Ambassadors, Greetings. :) Alejandro, most excellent post!!! :) > Hello everyone, Panamanian ambassadors on an interview on La Prensa, a new paper that cover all country, (that is easy because we are small country). > > http://mensual.prensa.com/mensual/contenido/2009/12/13/hoy/vivir/2025934.asp > > This interview open the door of this news paper to cover all events on Panama. I hope that I may be able to do such in my future. :v) Please have a great day! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32-0.56.rc8.git1.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Sun Dec 13 23:42:50 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:42:50 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Summary: Fedora 12 Athens Release Party 12/12 In-Reply-To: <21461b360912130433t51c0742sf15ff660a0ef4a01@mail.gmail.com> References: <21461b360912130433t51c0742sf15ff660a0ef4a01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > From: ppapadeas at gmail.com > Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:33:29 +0200 > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com; fedora-el-list at redhat.com > CC: > Subject: [Ambassadors] Summary: Fedora 12 Athens Release Party 12/12 Hello Fellow Ambassadors, Greetings. :) Pierros, thank you for your post. :) > Yesterday we held in Athens our Fedora 12 Release Party with much success! Many people showed up to learn about our Constantine and Fedora Project in general :) Most excellent!!! :) > Anastasis and me gave a presentation on Fedora Project and Fedora 12 (can be found here [1]) and afterwards we did some hands-on testing on network sharing, virtualization enhancements, Moblin platform and other hints on support! Perfect, main points. ;) > We even had a Fedora-Birthday-Cake :) Many swag were given out and as always Live-USB sticks were made! That's cool!!! :) > Check out the photo album from the event here [2] (from Thalia) > > Many thanks to my fellow organizers (Anastasis, Thalia and Pantelis) and to everyone else who attended! > > ~? > > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F12_Athens > [2] http://picasaweb.google.gr/saliyath/Fedora12AthensReleaseParty I like that! :) Please have a great day! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-162.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32-0.56.rc8.git1.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = > -- > Pierros Papadeas > PGP key: 0x6130DBF8 > http://pierros.papadeas.gr > pierros at papadeas.gr > liknus @ GRnet , Freenode From yajosev at gmail.com Mon Dec 14 06:28:38 2009 From: yajosev at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Yader_Vel=E1squez?=) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:28:38 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora proyect on panama news paper In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4526a8280912132228l1a9060eeyf0044da44aacc974@mail.gmail.com> Congratulations. Regards from Nicaragua. -- GNU/Linux User # 480 207 http://yaderv.info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yaderv -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fzied at dottn.com Mon Dec 14 08:15:38 2009 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:15:38 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Tunisia Activities In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080912131003n1cc1cbbfmc9513a7430cf41d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <436bc6ca0912092358s64dfc95gddca17640cc51e33@mail.gmail.com> <7a0d56080912131003n1cc1cbbfmc9513a7430cf41d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <436bc6ca0912140015m5a5cdcbage665a99ed92fd851@mail.gmail.com> Hi, On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Larry Cafiero wrote: > Hi, Zied -- > > Great work! In fact, I am going to put this report in the Fedora Weekly > News which comes out tomorrow. > > I wanted to let you know that we are restarting the Campus Ambassadors > program and I hope you and your colleagues in Tunisia will participate. Go > to: > > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Campus_Ambassadors > > for more information. > certainly. > > Regards, > Larry Cafiero > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > >> Your Excellencies, >> >> I talk on behalf of Nihed MBAREK, Wael AMMAR and my self. >> >> We've been silent for a while, but we were not sleeping. >> >> We started a lobbying strategy around fedora in the universities by >> creating local "Fedora Clubs". >> >> We already have 2 clubs: >> - one in ISET Charguia: http://www.isetch.rnu.tn - public university >> - one in ESPRIT: www.esprit.ens.tn - private university >> >> ISET CH already had their first activities which are: >> - a private mirror: create by my self >> - a release party of F12, (will have it's event page), where we gave 4 >> conferences >> -----> What's new in Fedora 12, by Nihed >> -----> Virtualization, by Imed Chihi, former Red Hat employee >> -----> How to contribute to Fedora, by my self >> -----> Perenity of Open source software, by our friend Mohamed Nejib Bejar >> -----> We had a real celebration, Cake, sodas ... candies .... >> - they soon we be migrating anything in their school to Fedora (or >> CentOS), and >> - they will start as soon as possible translating and contributing. >> >> kind regards, >> Zied. >> >> -- >> Zied FAKHFAKH >> Dot TN - CTO >> >> @: fzied at dottn.com >> t: +216 71 82 89 58 >> f: +216 71 82 89 58 >> w: http://www.dottn.com >> a: Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 - Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis - Tunisia >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Zied FAKHFAKH Dot TN - CTO @: fzied at dottn.com t: +216 71 82 89 58 f: +216 71 82 89 58 w: http://www.dottn.com a: Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 - Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis - Tunisia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fzied at dottn.com Mon Dec 14 08:22:06 2009 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:22:06 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Tunisia Activities In-Reply-To: <436bc6ca0912140015m5a5cdcbage665a99ed92fd851@mail.gmail.com> References: <436bc6ca0912092358s64dfc95gddca17640cc51e33@mail.gmail.com> <7a0d56080912131003n1cc1cbbfmc9513a7430cf41d0@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0912140015m5a5cdcbage665a99ed92fd851@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <436bc6ca0912140022n5582682akc93b53a8c2682d49@mail.gmail.com> Finally here are the photos, taken by Nihed. http://picasaweb.google.com/nihedmm/Fedora12IsetChaguia On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Larry Cafiero wrote: > >> Hi, Zied -- >> >> Great work! In fact, I am going to put this report in the Fedora Weekly >> News which comes out tomorrow. >> >> I wanted to let you know that we are restarting the Campus Ambassadors >> program and I hope you and your colleagues in Tunisia will participate. Go >> to: >> >> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Campus_Ambassadors >> >> for more information. >> > certainly. > >> >> Regards, >> Larry Cafiero >> >> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: >> >>> Your Excellencies, >>> >>> I talk on behalf of Nihed MBAREK, Wael AMMAR and my self. >>> >>> We've been silent for a while, but we were not sleeping. >>> >>> We started a lobbying strategy around fedora in the universities by >>> creating local "Fedora Clubs". >>> >>> We already have 2 clubs: >>> - one in ISET Charguia: http://www.isetch.rnu.tn - public university >>> - one in ESPRIT: www.esprit.ens.tn - private university >>> >>> ISET CH already had their first activities which are: >>> - a private mirror: create by my self >>> - a release party of F12, (will have it's event page), where we gave 4 >>> conferences >>> -----> What's new in Fedora 12, by Nihed >>> -----> Virtualization, by Imed Chihi, former Red Hat employee >>> -----> How to contribute to Fedora, by my self >>> -----> Perenity of Open source software, by our friend Mohamed Nejib >>> Bejar >>> -----> We had a real celebration, Cake, sodas ... candies .... >>> - they soon we be migrating anything in their school to Fedora (or >>> CentOS), and >>> - they will start as soon as possible translating and contributing. >>> >>> kind regards, >>> Zied. >>> >>> -- >>> Zied FAKHFAKH >>> Dot TN - CTO >>> >>> @: fzied at dottn.com >>> t: +216 71 82 89 58 >>> f: +216 71 82 89 58 >>> w: http://www.dottn.com >>> a: Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 - Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis - Tunisia >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > Zied FAKHFAKH > Dot TN - CTO > > @: fzied at dottn.com > t: +216 71 82 89 58 > f: +216 71 82 89 58 > w: http://www.dottn.com > a: Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 - Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis - Tunisia > -- Zied FAKHFAKH Dot TN - CTO @: fzied at dottn.com t: +216 71 82 89 58 f: +216 71 82 89 58 w: http://www.dottn.com a: Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 - Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis - Tunisia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 14 11:09:26 2009 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:09:26 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Event report] Fedora 12 release Party in Paris (aka Rencontres Fedora 12) Message-ID: <2d319b780912140309o17500b3ai342a3c58ee97ce38@mail.gmail.com> Hi fellow ambassadors, This week-end, we had our Fedora 12 release party in Paris (Fedora 12 on the 12/12 :) at the Cit? des Sciences, a french establishment for promoting everything about science and technical stuff, and making it accessible to everyone. The event ran over 2 days, with several conferences and workshops. Here is the agenda : == Saturday == === Conferences === 14:00 - The Fedora Project, by Thomas Canniot (Fedora ambassador, member of FAmSCo and treasurer of the Fedora-Fr NPO) 15:00 - Cobbler and Puppet, by William Hoffmann (Red Hat engineer and trainer) 16:00 - Sugar, by Sean Daly (marketing coordinator of the Sugar Labs) 17:00 - The Mozilla community and the web, by Gr?goire Coustenoble (Mozilla contributor) === Workshops === 14:30 - Linux administration, by Michael Scherer (Mandriva contributor) and me 15:30 - Discover Fedora, by Tom Dubin (Fedora ambassador) and Alexandre Frandemiche (Fedora-Fr contributor, leader of the french version of Fedora package of the day) 16:30 - A bit of both the first workshops, depending on visitors questions == Sunday == === Conferences === 14:00 - OpenMoko, by Michael Scherer (Mandriva contributor) 15:00 - Translating Fedora, by Thomas Canniot (Fedora ambassador, member of FAmSCo and treasurer of the Fedora-Fr NPO) and Pablo Martin-Gomez (Fedora ambassadors, leader of the fr Fedora translation team) => this session lasted longer than planned because attendees had a lot of question, so Michale Scherer decided to let it run and cancel his next conference 16:00 - Fight Internet censorship with Tor, by Michael Scherer (Mandriva contributor) => Michael decided to cancel his talk as the public was interacting very well with Thomas about the previous session === Workshops === 14:30 - Discover Fedora, by Tom Dubin (Fedora ambassador) and Alexandre Frandemiche (Fedora-Fr contributor, leader of the french version of Fedora package of the day) 15:30 - Linux administration, by me Also, members of the JeuxLinux.fr team (a french LUG dedicated to video games on Linux) was present for both days, and were doing some kind of a permanent "come and play with us" session. All the conferences were filmed, and we hope to be able to distribute the videos (in french unfortunately for most of you on this list) shortly and obviously under a free content license. ---------- All in all, the event ran pretty well (even if very tiring :). We had around 100 visitors (I honestly didn't count, but that should be an accurate estimation), and we helped several people install Fedora or solve the problems they were having. We distributed lots of the Fedora 12 CDs we had made, sold t-shirts and live USBs (Fedora branded USB sticks). We also printed a translated version of the one page release notes that visitors seemed to appreciate pretty much. C?dric, a member of the Fedora-Fr community that we had never heard of before stepped up to join us and be our reporter to cover the event as a film report with hand-held camera. He interviewed people, moved around the event and filmed backstage. We hope to have the finished movie pretty soon. This was a very nice surprise to us, and we hope he will continue to participate in Fedora (at least we want to encourage him :). Of course, the event wouldn't have been such a success without the participation of all the attendees that I didn't already mention above: - Armel Kermorvant (Fedora ambassador and president of the Fedora-Fr NPO) - Pierre-Yves Chibon (Fedora ambassador and packager, Fedora-Fr.org administrator and vice-president of the Fedora-Fr NPO) - Carlos Vassalo (Fedora ambassador, vice-treasurer of the Fedora-Fr NPO and human front-end to the LiveUSB-Creator tool :) - Nicolas Chauvet (Fedora ambassador, rock-star packager and board member of the Fedora-Fr NPO) - Maxime Carron (Fedora ambassador and secretary of the Fedora-Fr NPO) - Xavier Lamien (member of the Fedora Packaging Committee and the Fedora Infrastructure team) - Mohamed El Morabity (Fedora ambassador and Fedora-Fr.org ubiquitous user support) - Emmanuel Seyman, Paul Marques-Mota and Sabine Herbin (board members of the Parisian LUG) - Olivier Fraysse (board member of the Ubuntu-Fr NPO) who really helped us rounding the edges related to the logistics with the Cit? des Sciences - and all the others who I inevitably forgot as my memory left me along with my mental sanity somewhere around 4:00 am on Sunday :) We're already eagerly looking forward to organizing the next one. Best regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) From luca at foppiano.org Mon Dec 14 11:15:13 2009 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:15:13 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Event report] Fedora 12 release Party in Paris (aka Rencontres Fedora 12) In-Reply-To: <2d319b780912140309o17500b3ai342a3c58ee97ce38@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d319b780912140309o17500b3ai342a3c58ee97ce38@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B261E41.7080800@foppiano.org> On 12/14/2009 12:09 PM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: > Hi fellow ambassadors, > > This week-end, we had our Fedora 12 release party in Paris (Fedora 12 > on the 12/12 :) at the Cit? des Sciences, a french establishment for > promoting everything about science and technical stuff, and making it > accessible to everyone. > > The event ran over 2 days, with several conferences and workshops. > Here is the agenda : > [...] many many many congratulations! Really nice event! Luca From stickster at gmail.com Mon Dec 14 15:00:42 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:00:42 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora Board, FESCo & FAmSCo Elections - Voting Information In-Reply-To: <9440004.1881259972380235.JavaMail.nigjones@njones.bne.redhat.com> References: <1846964.1861259971953089.JavaMail.nigjones@njones.bne.redhat.com> <9440004.1881259972380235.JavaMail.nigjones@njones.bne.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20091214150042.GC3141@victoria.internal.frields.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 07:19:42PM -0500, Nigel Jones wrote: > **** Please Note **** > There will be a Fedora Infrastructure outage during the voting period that > may effect the voting application, as a result we have brought the voting > start date forward to the 5th December instead of the 8th December. > > As announced by Paul Frields in the event of extended outage, we will as > appropriate extend the voting period. > > We have also implemented a new feature in our voting software, so users > can verify their votes. Vote verification can be done at: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/verify > You will be prompted for your Fedora Account System username and password > and a list of elections where votes have been recorded will be listed. > > > For more information please refer to: > > Fedora Infrastructure Outage Information: > * https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-December/msg00000.html > * https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1845 > > Contingency plans in case of extended outage: > * https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2009-December/msg00014.html > ********************* The series of outages have been very short overall, but upper estimates of various outages possibly affecting the voting application are close to 8 hours. Therefore, in keeping with our contingency plan, the voting period for the Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo elections will be extended by one additional day. These elections now end on 2009-12-16 UTC 2359. - -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFLJlMarNvJN70RNxcRAr+nAJ4mrm1hOvNLoafJBJVCSLbJDRs6vACeOc2H VG/6jW/S+2E1rqDLX5Uganw= =DbVy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ppapadeas at gmail.com Mon Dec 14 22:50:00 2009 From: ppapadeas at gmail.com (Pierros Papadeas) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:50:00 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER: EMEA Ambassador Meeting this Wednesday ! Message-ID: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> Ladies and gentlemen, Don't you remember there is an EMEA Ambassador meeting next Wednesday (Europe, the Middle East, and Africa) on #fedora-meeting ? Day : Wednesday, December 16th, 2009 Time : 20:00 UTC (check [1] to know your own time depending on your country) Channel : #fedora-meeting Meeting agenda (add your topic before the meeting please) [2] Update your agendas, and don't forget to join us. Kind regards, Pierros [1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=16&month=12&year=2009&hour=20&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-12-16 -- Pierros Papadeas PGP key: 0x6130DBF8 http://pierros.papadeas.gr pierros at papadeas.gr liknus @ GRnet , Freenode -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Tue Dec 15 05:31:23 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:31:23 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine, " Fedora 12 Talking Points. :) In-Reply-To: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine" content as well as Fedora 13 "Goddard" content being developed, I find the following in the Fedora_12_Talking_Points. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Talking_Points There is some entry for Fedora Electronic Lab, eh? I do not understand this for my presentation. ======================================================= I am very confused about what Fedora Electronic Lab has to do with the Fedora 12 Talking Points. I did not see anything about this in Fedora 12 Features. Does someone have any idea about this? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Talking_Points#Fedora_Electronic_Lab Fedora Electronic Lab Fedora's high-end hardware design and simulation platform, Fedora Electronic Lab was reinforced with PLA tools for digital design flow, a Peer Review Web-based solution for small businesses, simulators for 8081 and 8085 microcontrollers, development tools for Openmoko development and power charged Eclipse 3.5 with plugins for HDL/IP development. Read Release Notes and Flyer for complementary information. FEL-12 mini tour Get to know FEL-12's talking points in 3 minutes. ======================================================= The following two were good for a place mark for the future and developing features. This I understand. :) Fedora 13 Talking Points - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Talking_Points Fedora 13 Accepted Features - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/13/FeatureList ======================================================= Please have a great day! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32-0.56.rc8.git1.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = From smcbrien at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 13:25:37 2009 From: smcbrien at gmail.com (scott mcbrien) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:25:37 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER: Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting tonight 9:00p Eastern Message-ID: <6c56c38a0912150525g6ff10dc3y4826ce87a145186b@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, just wanted to remind the North America Ambassadors that tonight is our bi-montly meeting. Best Regards, Scott From stickster at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 13:49:37 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:49:37 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine, " Fedora 12 Talking Points. :) In-Reply-To: References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091215134937.GF10169@victoria.internal.frields.org> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:31:23AM -0500, David Ramsey wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Greetings. :) > > During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine" content as > well as Fedora 13 "Goddard" content being developed, I find the > following in the Fedora_12_Talking_Points. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Talking_Points > > There is some entry for Fedora Electronic Lab, eh? I do not > understand this for my presentation. I think this was added post-freeze of this content. I think the FEL is a great project and highly worthy of mention as an application of our 'spin' concept. It's very appealing to an audience that is involved in electronics engineering and other hardware oriented development and hacking. However, it probably should be featured somewhere other than the general release talking points. That's one of the reasons we set up the new Spins sites: http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel/ I'll revert that edit. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Dec 15 15:48:38 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:48:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] shipping for F12 media in EMEA Message-ID: Hi all, The company in Munich is ready to ship out the F12 media, and we need to give them a few addresses. We have 1,500 Desktop Spin Live CDs (32 bit) and 1500 DVDs (32 bit). ***IMPORTANT*** -- I only want to give them 3 or 4 addresses, and break the shipment up to those folks. Then for individual small events, Fedora contributors can re-send a few CDs to Ambassadors and save their receipts either for FAMSCo or for the Fedora EMEA non-profit to reimburse them. I'm thinking of having CDs/DVDs sent to: (1) Frederic Hornian -- who can bring them to FOSDEM (2) Joerg Simon -- who can have some for Chemnitz, and also maybe re-send them to other folks. (3) Italy -- who would want to be the person who hangs on to the media? (4) ????? Is there anyone else who either already knows that they need a bunch of CDs, or who is willing to be a holder of CDs and send them to other folks in EMEA who do need them? I filled that role some of the time last year when I was in Amsterdam, but now that I'm back in Raleigh, I can't mail CDs around Europe anymore :) ***REMEMBER*** -- don't write your address on a public mailing list that is archived forever. Let's just figure out how we're going to break up the shipments, and then collect addresses off-list. Thanks, Max From sspreitzer at fedoraproject.org Tue Dec 15 15:51:48 2009 From: sspreitzer at fedoraproject.org (Sascha Thomas Spreitzer) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:51:48 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] shipping for F12 media in EMEA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Max, i am living in Munich, I can pick up some of the media in Munich directly next week and ship or distribute it in the Munich area and in the Switzerland area. regards, Sascha 2009/12/15 Max Spevack : > Hi all, > > The company in Munich is ready to ship out the F12 media, and we need to > give them a few addresses. ?We have 1,500 Desktop Spin Live CDs (32 bit) and > 1500 DVDs (32 bit). > > ***IMPORTANT*** -- I only want to give them 3 or 4 addresses, and break the > shipment up to those folks. ?Then for individual small events, Fedora > contributors can re-send a few CDs to Ambassadors and save their receipts > either for FAMSCo or for the Fedora EMEA non-profit to reimburse them. > > I'm thinking of having CDs/DVDs sent to: > > (1) Frederic Hornian -- who can bring them to FOSDEM > > (2) Joerg Simon -- who can have some for Chemnitz, and also maybe re-send > them to other folks. > > (3) Italy -- who would want to be the person who hangs on to the media? > > (4) ????? ?Is there anyone else who either already knows that they need a > bunch of CDs, or who is willing to be a holder of CDs and send them to other > folks in EMEA who do need them? > > I filled that role some of the time last year when I was in Amsterdam, but > now that I'm back in Raleigh, I can't mail CDs around Europe anymore :) > > ***REMEMBER*** -- don't write your address on a public mailing list that is > archived forever. ?Let's just figure out how we're going to break up the > shipments, and then collect addresses off-list. > > Thanks, > Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Mit freundlichen Gr??en, / with kind regards, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer http://spreitzer.name/ From hacataka at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 15:58:12 2009 From: hacataka at gmail.com (Hacataka Comodo) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:58:12 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Problem Web Site Peru Message-ID: Greetings fedorianos in Per? fedora have more than 3 months with the problem of the website, we have proposed solutions latam ambassadors have written and without any viable solution, we have also talked with the staff of Telefonica del Peru and the filter by them follows. Per? Fedora calls on all representatives of Fedora, support us to intervene in the matter, with a new host and space to handle the responsibility of Fedora in Peru. What we want is we put our resources for Fedora host and domain and thus continue to recruit more users in Peru and have support and fluids with Fedora, a topic that we have lost all this time. pending a viable response to the progress of Fedora I say goodbye -- HACATAKA Fedora Ambassador for Peru hacataka at fedoraproject.org http://bitacorahelpdesk.blogspot.com/ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hacataka From gerold at lugd.org Tue Dec 15 16:06:45 2009 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:06:45 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] shipping for F12 media in EMEA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Max, there is the Tunesian Guy who asked for media and to be honest imho there are better used in Tunisa than in Germany or Switzerland ... Regards Gerold > Hi all, > > The company in Munich is ready to ship out the F12 media, and we need to > give them a few addresses. We have 1,500 Desktop Spin Live CDs (32 bit) > and 1500 DVDs (32 bit). > > ***IMPORTANT*** -- I only want to give them 3 or 4 addresses, and break > the shipment up to those folks. Then for individual small events, > Fedora contributors can re-send a few CDs to Ambassadors and save their > receipts either for FAMSCo or for the Fedora EMEA non-profit to > reimburse them. > > I'm thinking of having CDs/DVDs sent to: > > (1) Frederic Hornian -- who can bring them to FOSDEM > > (2) Joerg Simon -- who can have some for Chemnitz, and also maybe > re-send them to other folks. > > (3) Italy -- who would want to be the person who hangs on to the media? > > (4) ????? Is there anyone else who either already knows that they need > a bunch of CDs, or who is willing to be a holder of CDs and send them to > other folks in EMEA who do need them? > > I filled that role some of the time last year when I was in Amsterdam, > but now that I'm back in Raleigh, I can't mail CDs around Europe anymore > :) > > ***REMEMBER*** -- don't write your address on a public mailing list that > is archived forever. Let's just figure out how we're going to break up > the shipments, and then collect addresses off-list. > > Thanks, > Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From mel at redhat.com Tue Dec 15 16:04:10 2009 From: mel at redhat.com (Mel Chua) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:04:10 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine, " Fedora 12 Talking Points. :) In-Reply-To: <20091215134937.GF10169@victoria.internal.frields.org> References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> <20091215134937.GF10169@victoria.internal.frields.org> Message-ID: <4B27B37A.6060806@redhat.com> On 12/15/2009 08:49 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:31:23AM -0500, David Ramsey wrote: >> >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Greetings. :) >> >> During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine" content as >> well as Fedora 13 "Goddard" content being developed, I find the >> following in the Fedora_12_Talking_Points. >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Talking_Points >> >> There is some entry for Fedora Electronic Lab, eh? I do not >> understand this for my presentation. > > I think this was added post-freeze of this content. > > I think the FEL is a great project and highly worthy of mention as an > application of our 'spin' concept. It's very appealing to an audience > that is involved in electronics engineering and other hardware > oriented development and hacking. > > However, it probably should be featured somewhere other than the > general release talking points. That's one of the reasons we set up > the new Spins sites: > > http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ > http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel/ > > I'll revert that edit. > Thanks for the catch, David - and for the edit, Paul. Copying the Marketing list on this. The Talking Points that the Marketing team produces for our release deliverables are talking points for the Desktop (GNOME) Spin. However, the reason we're writing howtos/SOPs[0] for each of the Marketing deliverables our team produces is precisely so that individual projects (including Spins) can easily make their own versions of our deliverables. It's my hope that we'll see talking points, one-page release notes, etc. made by multiple Spin teams for F13, and we'll do everything we can to make it easy for those teams to do so, in the spirit of making tools available so that people can more readily scratch their own itches. Suggestions/feedback welcome - the first step is getting the howtos up and written, which will be done by Alpha; they'll be announced to the Marketing mailing list as well as posted on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Marketing_HOWTO as they are completed, if you'd like to add that page to your watchlist. --Mel [0] Standard Operating Procedures From fzied at dottn.com Tue Dec 15 16:16:14 2009 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:16:14 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] shipping for F12 media in EMEA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <436bc6ca0912150816o5e008d9eua78f8f78f785072e@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Indeed, we need the media here, as Internet connexion is not that huge. any quantity would be welcome. my address: ----------------------------------------------------------- Avenue Ariana les roses, Residence Mimosas 1, Apt 35 Cit? NASR 2 Ariana - 2037 Tunisia ----------------------------------------------------------- Regards, Zied. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Gerold wrote: > Max, > > there is the Tunesian Guy who asked for media and to be honest imho there > are better used in Tunisa than in Germany or Switzerland ... > > > Regards > > Gerold > > > > > Hi all, > > > > The company in Munich is ready to ship out the F12 media, and we need to > > give them a few addresses. We have 1,500 Desktop Spin Live CDs (32 bit) > > and 1500 DVDs (32 bit). > > > > ***IMPORTANT*** -- I only want to give them 3 or 4 addresses, and break > > the shipment up to those folks. Then for individual small events, > > Fedora contributors can re-send a few CDs to Ambassadors and save their > > receipts either for FAMSCo or for the Fedora EMEA non-profit to > > reimburse them. > > > > I'm thinking of having CDs/DVDs sent to: > > > > (1) Frederic Hornian -- who can bring them to FOSDEM > > > > (2) Joerg Simon -- who can have some for Chemnitz, and also maybe > > re-send them to other folks. > > > > (3) Italy -- who would want to be the person who hangs on to the media? > > > > (4) ????? Is there anyone else who either already knows that they need > > a bunch of CDs, or who is willing to be a holder of CDs and send them to > > other folks in EMEA who do need them? > > > > I filled that role some of the time last year when I was in Amsterdam, > > but now that I'm back in Raleigh, I can't mail CDs around Europe anymore > > :) > > > > ***REMEMBER*** -- don't write your address on a public mailing list that > > is archived forever. Let's just figure out how we're going to break up > > the shipments, and then collect addresses off-list. > > > > Thanks, > > Max > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Zied FAKHFAKH Dot TN - CTO @: fzied at dottn.com t: +216 71 82 89 58 f: +216 71 82 89 58 w: http://www.dottn.com a: Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 - Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis - Tunisia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Dec 15 16:22:44 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:22:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] shipping for F12 media in EMEA In-Reply-To: <436bc6ca0912150816o5e008d9eua78f8f78f785072e@mail.gmail.com> References: <436bc6ca0912150816o5e008d9eua78f8f78f785072e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > Indeed, we need the media here, as Internet connexion is not that > huge. > > any quantity would be welcome. I'll make sure you get some, either directly, or shipped to you from one of the other Ambassadors in the region. Thanks, Zied. --Max From nacross at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 16:38:16 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:38:16 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Problem Web Site Peru In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Hacataka Comodo wrote: > Greetings fedorianos in Per? fedora have more than 3 months with the > problem of the website, we have proposed solutions latam ambassadors > have written and without any viable solution, we have also talked with > the staff of Telefonica del Peru and the filter by them follows. > > Per? Fedora calls on all representatives of Fedora, support us to > intervene in the matter, with a new host and space to handle the > responsibility of Fedora in Peru. > > What we want is we put our resources for Fedora host and domain and > thus continue to recruit more users in Peru and have support and > fluids with Fedora, a topic that we have lost all this time. > > pending a viable response to the progress of Fedora I say goodbye > -- > > HACATAKA > Fedora Ambassador for Peru > hacataka at fedoraproject.org > http://bitacorahelpdesk.blogspot.com/ > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hacataka > I think that people beyond LATAM may not know what is happening in Per?. The internet service provider have blocked access to www.proyectofedora.org (LATAM infaestructure), probably due a misconfiguration on DNS servers. They blame the website because it is easier than fix the problem. Have you dig about the name of some authority on the ISP to whom can be addressed a letter/mail? There is no goverment telecommunication agency where you can file a complaint about this? At least in Nicaragua you call tech support and they blame somebody else, you write a letter to the ISP with copy to the national telecommunication board and you get solutions fast. What I do not follow is what you want. When you said "our resources" you mean Fedora Peru Resources? LATAM Resources? Fedora Project Resources? As far as I know, not everybody is using Fedora Project or LATAM resources. The group from El Salvador requested space in LATAM infraestructure and because of delays they set up their own domain/hosting. They have their site working now. In Nicaragua we looked for local sponsorship to get our hosting and managed to get the domain name for free. We did not pursued LATAM infraestructure because we aimed to have a local repo, which is now working. There is any way in which I can assist you? -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 From magjogui at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 16:54:57 2009 From: magjogui at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?Sm9zw6kgRWRnYXJkbyBMw7NwZXogVsOhc3F1ZXo=?=) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:54:57 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Problem Web Site Peru In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6e1b46940912150854w20fd3b54y372a2c437ed7cd97@mail.gmail.com> Actually the infraestructure of El salvador is available if peru need some space or a subdomain like fedoraperu.fedora.org.sv or something like that. so if you need just tell me and it would be a pleasure for us to help. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Neville A. Cross wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Hacataka Comodo > wrote: > > Greetings fedorianos in Per? fedora have more than 3 months with the > > problem of the website, we have proposed solutions latam ambassadors > > have written and without any viable solution, we have also talked with > > the staff of Telefonica del Peru and the filter by them follows. > > > > Per? Fedora calls on all representatives of Fedora, support us to > > intervene in the matter, with a new host and space to handle the > > responsibility of Fedora in Peru. > > > > What we want is we put our resources for Fedora host and domain and > > thus continue to recruit more users in Peru and have support and > > fluids with Fedora, a topic that we have lost all this time. > > > > pending a viable response to the progress of Fedora I say goodbye > > -- > > > > HACATAKA > > Fedora Ambassador for Peru > > hacataka at fedoraproject.org > > http://bitacorahelpdesk.blogspot.com/ > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hacataka > > > > I think that people beyond LATAM may not know what is happening in Per?. > > The internet service provider have blocked access to > www.proyectofedora.org (LATAM infaestructure), probably due a > misconfiguration on DNS servers. They blame the website because it is > easier than fix the problem. > > Have you dig about the name of some authority on the ISP to whom can > be addressed a letter/mail? There is no goverment telecommunication > agency where you can file a complaint about this? At least in > Nicaragua you call tech support and they blame somebody else, you > write a letter to the ISP with copy to the national telecommunication > board and you get solutions fast. > > What I do not follow is what you want. When you said "our resources" > you mean Fedora Peru Resources? LATAM Resources? Fedora Project > Resources? > > As far as I know, not everybody is using Fedora Project or LATAM resources. > > The group from El Salvador requested space in LATAM infraestructure > and because of delays they set up their own domain/hosting. They have > their site working now. > > In Nicaragua we looked for local sponsorship to get our hosting and > managed to get the domain name for free. We did not pursued LATAM > infraestructure because we aimed to have a local repo, which is now > working. > > There is any way in which I can assist you? > > -- > Neville > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v > Linux User # 473217 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Atentamente -- magjogui Jos? Edgardo L?pez V?squez fedora Ambassador [El Salvador] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Magjogui https://www.fedoraproject.org magjogui at fedoraproject.org Consultor en Software libre & GNU/ Linux identica,irc,gtalk,msn,skype: magjogui at gmail.com M. +(503) 76224064 (claro.com.sv) H. +(503) 25171878 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Tue Dec 15 17:51:05 2009 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:51:05 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Problem Web Site Peru In-Reply-To: <6e1b46940912150854w20fd3b54y372a2c437ed7cd97@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e1b46940912150854w20fd3b54y372a2c437ed7cd97@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B27CC89.6080004@projetofedora.org> Hello Guys! I'm personally fixing the problem now! Em 15-12-2009 14:54, Jos? Edgardo L?pez V?squez escreveu: > Actually the infraestructure of El salvador is available if peru need > some space or a subdomain like fedoraperu.fedora.org.sv > or something like that. so if you need > just tell me and it would be a pleasure for us to help. > > > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Neville A. Cross > wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Hacataka Comodo > wrote: > > Greetings fedorianos in Per? fedora have more than 3 months with the > > problem of the website, we have proposed solutions latam ambassadors > > have written and without any viable solution, we have also talked with > > the staff of Telefonica del Peru and the filter by them follows. > > > > Per? Fedora calls on all representatives of Fedora, support us to > > intervene in the matter, with a new host and space to handle the > > responsibility of Fedora in Peru. > > > > What we want is we put our resources for Fedora host and domain and > > thus continue to recruit more users in Peru and have support and > > fluids with Fedora, a topic that we have lost all this time. > > > > pending a viable response to the progress of Fedora I say goodbye > > -- > > > > HACATAKA > > Fedora Ambassador for Peru > > hacataka at fedoraproject.org > > http://bitacorahelpdesk.blogspot.com/ > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hacataka > > > > I think that people beyond LATAM may not know what is happening in Per?. > > The internet service provider have blocked access to > www.proyectofedora.org (LATAM > infaestructure), probably due a > misconfiguration on DNS servers. They blame the website because it is > easier than fix the problem. > > Have you dig about the name of some authority on the ISP to whom can > be addressed a letter/mail? There is no goverment telecommunication > agency where you can file a complaint about this? At least in > Nicaragua you call tech support and they blame somebody else, you > write a letter to the ISP with copy to the national telecommunication > board and you get solutions fast. > > What I do not follow is what you want. When you said "our resources" > you mean Fedora Peru Resources? LATAM Resources? Fedora Project > Resources? > > As far as I know, not everybody is using Fedora Project or LATAM > resources. > > The group from El Salvador requested space in LATAM infraestructure > and because of delays they set up their own domain/hosting. They have > their site working now. > > In Nicaragua we looked for local sponsorship to get our hosting and > managed to get the domain name for free. We did not pursued LATAM > infraestructure because we aimed to have a local repo, which is now > working. > > There is any way in which I can assist you? > > -- > Neville > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v > Linux User # 473217 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Atentamente > -- magjogui > Jos? Edgardo L?pez V?squez > > fedora Ambassador [El Salvador] > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Magjogui > https://www.fedoraproject.org > magjogui at fedoraproject.org > > Consultor en Software libre & GNU/ Linux > identica,irc,gtalk,msn,skype: magjogui at gmail.com > M. +(503) 76224064 (claro.com.sv ) > H. +(503) 25171878 > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From hacataka at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 16:49:02 2009 From: hacataka at gmail.com (Hacataka Comodo) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:49:02 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Problem Web Site Peru In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Neville, it happens that we have the resources to do so, we are not asking LATAM, what if we ask is that Fedora Per? redirected to the new domain that we want to assign. we are losing many early adopters in Peru, where the statistics indicate that we have grown 70% more here, thanks to our effort and dedication, Fedora in Peru, is arming and hard for January starts its activities, we have good partners, people who have committed themselves to grow in Peru. It is worth it if a representative wants to give its support us we are willing to accept and be well spent, for the growth of Fedora Per?. gracias........... 2009/12/15 Neville A. Cross : > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Hacataka Comodo wrote: >> Greetings fedorianos in Per? fedora have more than 3 months with the >> problem of the website, we have proposed solutions latam ambassadors >> have written and without any viable solution, we have also talked with >> the staff of Telefonica del Peru and the filter by them follows. >> >> Per? Fedora calls on all representatives of Fedora, support us to >> intervene in the matter, with a new host and space to handle the >> responsibility of Fedora in Peru. >> >> What we want is we put our resources for Fedora host and domain and >> thus continue to recruit more users in Peru and have support and >> fluids with Fedora, a topic that we have lost all this time. >> >> pending a viable response to the progress of Fedora I say goodbye >> -- >> >> HACATAKA >> Fedora Ambassador for Peru >> hacataka at fedoraproject.org >> http://bitacorahelpdesk.blogspot.com/ >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hacataka >> > > I think that people beyond LATAM may not know what is happening in Per?. > > The internet service provider have blocked access to > www.proyectofedora.org (LATAM infaestructure), probably due a > misconfiguration on DNS servers. They blame the website because it is > easier than fix the problem. > > Have you dig about the name of some authority on the ISP to whom can > be addressed a letter/mail? There is no goverment telecommunication > agency where you can file a complaint about this? At least in > Nicaragua you call tech support and they blame somebody else, you > write a letter to the ISP with copy to the national telecommunication > board and you get solutions fast. > > What I do not follow is what you want. When you said "our resources" > you mean Fedora Peru Resources? LATAM Resources? Fedora Project > Resources? > > As far as I know, not everybody is using Fedora Project or LATAM resources. > > The group from El Salvador requested space in LATAM infraestructure > and because of delays they set up their own domain/hosting. They have > their site working now. > > In Nicaragua we looked for local sponsorship to get our hosting and > managed to get the domain name for free. We did not pursued LATAM > infraestructure because we aimed to have a local repo, which is now > working. > > There is any way in which I can assist you? > > -- > Neville > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v > Linux User # 473217 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- HACATAKA Fedora Ambassador for Peru hacataka at fedoraproject.org http://bitacorahelpdesk.blogspot.com/ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hacataka From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Tue Dec 15 19:38:04 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:38:04 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Message-ID: <200912152038.08929.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear Ambassadors, let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Member: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mamasun from the Russian Federatiion mentored by Robert Scheck Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From nacross at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 19:41:23 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:41:23 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Problem Web Site Peru In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Hacataka Comodo wrote: > Neville, it happens that we have the resources to do so, we are not > asking LATAM, what if we ask is that Fedora Per? redirected to the new > domain that we want to assign. > > we are losing many early adopters in Peru, where the statistics > indicate that we have grown 70% more here, thanks to our effort and > dedication, Fedora in Peru, is arming and hard for January starts its > activities, we have good partners, people who have committed > themselves to grow in Peru. > > It is worth it if a representative wants to give its support us we are > willing to accept and be well spent, for the growth of Fedora Per?. > Well, that's why I was asking. I did not understand that you were requesting redirection. You mean on the web page, the link that says Peru to point to your new page? As far as I understand that is a simple administrative task, changing one link pointing an internal resource to point to your new domain. Again, if there is anything I can do to assit you, just let me know. -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Dec 15 21:49:55 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:49:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM status/planning meeting on IRC Message-ID: Hi all, As you all know, Frederic has been doing an INCREDIBLE job of getting FOSDEM organized for 2010. I think it would be very useful if we all get together on IRC to make sure that the questions of different attendees or potential attendees are being answered. I'd like to propose that we use a big chunk of this week's EMEA Ambassadors meeting to discuss FOSDEM. Frederic, can you come to this week's EMEA Ambassadors meeting, so that you and I can lead a discussion? If Frederic can make it, then I'd encourage anyone who is interested in FOSDEM to also attend this week's EMEA Ambassadors meeting. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-12-16 --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Dec 15 21:50:44 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:50:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] mspevack's updates for NA and EMEA meetings Message-ID: Hey Ambassadors, I'm not sure if I'll be able to attend the NA ambassadors meeting tonight, so here's my general update on various TODOs that are/were mine. * (WHOLE WORLD) I consolidated the various pages where we had swag vendors listed into one page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Swag_vendors * (EMEA) CDs will be shipped out shortly -- we're getting together the final list of addresses, and from there Ambassadors will be able to further distribute. * (WHOLE WORLD) Due to requests to run another Ambassadors training classroom, I've scheduled one for January 7th. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom#Upcoming_Classes * (WHOLE WORLD) Case badge order will be placed before Christmas vacation. We know that basically the whole world is interested. I'll dig through my records to get the name of the company, make sure it is on the Swag vendors page, and then call them. Hopefully they remember us and still have the design, so that they can just print a new batch without us having to do any submission of designs again. * (NA) Media status pending making contact with the production company. Sent them mail, need to followup with a phone call. Goal is to have CDs in hands of folks before Christmas. * (EMEA) Hoping to use tomorrow's EMEA ambassadors meeting to discuss FOSDEM in detail. --Max From ppapadeas at gmail.com Tue Dec 15 22:12:44 2009 From: ppapadeas at gmail.com (Pierros Papadeas) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 00:12:44 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] shipping for F12 media in EMEA In-Reply-To: References: <436bc6ca0912150816o5e008d9eua78f8f78f785072e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <21461b360912151412w1b3fa591u95f904eb28c802e2@mail.gmail.com> We could use some also, here in Greece. Mainly Live CD's Thanks, Pierros On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > > Indeed, we need the media here, as Internet connexion is not that huge. >> >> any quantity would be welcome. >> > > I'll make sure you get some, either directly, or shipped to you from one of > the other Ambassadors in the region. > > Thanks, Zied. > > --Max > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Pierros Papadeas PGP key: 0x6130DBF8 http://pierros.papadeas.gr pierros at papadeas.gr liknus @ GRnet , Freenode -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Was there a discussion that I missed or was this not had? -Adam -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com --------------------------------------------------------- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Wed Dec 16 08:02:12 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (Joerg Simon) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:02:12 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM status/planning meeting on IRC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200912160902.18520.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> On Tuesday 15 December 2009 22:49:55 Max Spevack wrote: > Hi all, > > As you all know, Frederic has been doing an INCREDIBLE job of getting > FOSDEM organized for 2010. > > I think it would be very useful if we all get together on IRC to make > sure that the questions of different attendees or potential attendees > are being answered. > I think it is also time to discuss the CLT 2010 - http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/11/chemnitzer-linuxtage-2010.html with almost no Feedback to our decission on FAD and my posts - we have to reconsider in what way we will have a presence on this Event! i will try to be present today for the meeting! cu Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So update your agendas, and don't forget to join us :) Kind regards, Pierros [1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=16&month=12&year=2009&hour=20&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-12-16 -- Pierros Papadeas PGP key: 0x6130DBF8 http://pierros.papadeas.gr pierros at papadeas.gr liknus @ GRnet , Freenode From smcbrien at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 14:21:30 2009 From: smcbrien at gmail.com (scott mcbrien) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:21:30 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Summary Fedora Ambassadors NA meeting Message-ID: <6c56c38a0912160621x4b4e82ber47272f835c444b7f@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, Just wanted to give a summary and links to the NA Ambassadors meeting last night. It was a fairly short meeting. 1) Don't forget to VOTE!!!! 2) Plug of the new NA shirts: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/ButtonUp They're not tagged as "Ambassador" shirts, so any contributor or fanboy you know can order and wear one with pride. Order information is at the bottom of the page. 3) Most of our discussion revolved around budget items. Max Spevak sent out an e-mail to fedora-ambassadors-list yesterday with regards to some of the items, like North American Media and Case Badges. Included below are the links to the Summary, Logs, and a text copy of the log for those of you who use e-mail to help find conversations and disussions. Summary http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-16/fedora-meeting.2009-12-16-02.00.html Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-16/fedora-meeting.2009-12-16-02.00.log.html Raw Log: 02:00:11 #startmeeting 02:00:11 Meeting started Wed Dec 16 02:00:11 2009 UTC. The chair is StabbyMc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:00:11 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 02:00:35 #topic Fedora NA Ambassadors meeting 02:00:42 Rollcall. 02:00:47 .fas smcbrien 02:00:48 StabbyMc: smcbrien '' 02:00:50 .fas jfsaucier 02:00:50 .fas grantbow 02:00:51 djf_jeff: jfsaucier 'Jean-Francois Saucier' 02:00:56 Grantbow: grantbow 'Grant Bowman' 02:00:58 .fas pcalarco 02:00:59 .fas ke4qqq 02:00:59 pcalarco: pcalarco 'Pascal Vincent Calarco' 02:01:01 .fas arsenick 02:01:01 .fasinfo jbwillia 02:01:07 ke4qqq: ke4qqq 'David Nalley' 02:01:11 .fas etank 02:01:11 Arsenick: arsenick 'Ren? Jr Purcell' 02:01:15 VileGent: User: jbwillia, Name: Ben Williams, email: vaioof at yahoo.com, Creation: 2006-04-17, IRC Nick: Southern_Gentleman, Timezone: US/Eastern, Locale: en, Extension: 5100572, GPG key ID: 295A4FBC, Status: active 02:01:19 VileGent: Approved Groups: cla_done ambassadors freemedia cla_fedora gitcourses irc-support-operators 02:01:23 VileGent: Unapproved Groups: None 02:01:27 etank: kenop 'Chetan Kumar' - spyrkob 'Bartosz Spyrko-?mietanko' - thomasthetank 'thomas strickland' - etank 'Eric Lake' - swetank 'SWETANK KUMAR SAHA' - ketankumar 'ketankumar patil' 02:01:39 im in there somewhere 02:01:57 etank you should use fasinfo same as i do 02:02:10 will do 02:03:28 anyone else for roll call? 02:03:47 Dahlan's here 02:03:57 #topic Fedora NA Ambassadors meeting Announcements 02:03:59 First meeting, not sure if that's the proper way to call off or not. Sorry. 02:04:32 dahlan: we usually use .fas or .fasinfo to get our name in the record, though inode0 suggests we do away with it. 02:04:52 My only announcement is the availability of shirts. 02:05:04 ! 02:05:27 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/ButtonUp 02:05:38 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/ButtonUp 02:05:52 At the bottom of the page is order info. 02:06:18 Anyone order one yet? 02:06:38 * inode0 pointed to that page when asked for "ideas" 02:06:38 hopefully soon 02:06:38 I'm ordering mine in Jan. 02:06:54 StabbyMc: I plan to do it soon 02:07:49 At some point I'd like to get some feedback on the order process, mine was a little rocky, but I was the first, and I change locations everyweek, so shipping to me was problematic. 02:08:13 But because of that, I want to make sure that the vendor is doing a good job, otherwise we'll bounce. 02:09:03 So feedback when you've got it would be appreciated :-) 02:09:10 Any other announcements? 02:09:15 vote 02:09:57 less than 24 hours left 02:10:06 already done 02:10:56 More announcements? 02:11:32 #topic Fedora NA Ambassadors Meeting Events 02:11:48 So the only upcoming event we've talke about recently has been Scale 02:11:56 Anything else circling out there? 02:12:03 ! 02:12:04 There is texas linuxfest 02:12:25 ??? 02:12:51 StabbyMc: I forget, should we be putting local LUG events on here where we'd like an Ambassadors Kit? 02:13:06 I have already requested said Kit 02:13:18 pcalarco: I'd like to see them - and the reports that follow along 02:13:19 I go on the local radio tomorrow to promote Fedora and announce our release event 02:13:30 pcalarco: kit requests go through traq, but I'd update the Events page with any events you attend. 02:14:16 dfj_jeff: break a leg 02:14:38 Grantbow: hmm, I don't know this expression here ;) 02:14:45 pcalarco: I saw your request, F12 media is hoped to be here by Christmas 02:14:53 dfj_jeff: best of luck 02:15:05 inode0: thanks, sounds great 02:15:17 Grantbow: ah, ok, thanks ;) 02:15:23 * inode0 grumbles about it taking a month to get media 02:15:26 inode0: any news on what the hold up is?? I thought it was 'ready' except for a small snafu before fudcon 02:16:00 disagreement over what is required as payment I believe 02:16:15 spevack sent out an e-mail to ambassadors-list today which in part said it was on his plate. 02:16:20 inode0: +1 02:16:29 * ke4qqq thought the email today was regarding emea media 02:16:36 perhaps I missed one though 02:16:41 he mentioned NA media too 02:17:38 Anybody need stuff for an upcoming event like banners or event-boxes that hasn't been addressed? 02:18:59 #topic Fedora NA Ambassadors Meeting - Budget review 02:19:31 spevak said he'd likely not be here tonight, but he sent an update via e-mail today to ambassadors-list 02:19:50 I'm assuming nothing has changed since our discussion of budget last meeting. 02:19:57 * StabbyMc doesn't think anything has been ordered. 02:20:02 well, we have lost 2 more weeks 02:20:13 there is that. 02:20:16 Max will be ordering the case badges for everywhere 02:20:25 We need to take care of anything else we want 02:20:42 I'll be starting with window-clings again next week. 02:20:48 Now that shirts are all done. 02:21:27 most of the companies that do the window clings also do vynl stickers, so I'll likely try and get them done at the same time. 02:21:30 If we want more shirts this quarter we should (a) decide which make and model and (b) contact DemonJester 02:22:03 splatter shirts +1 02:22:30 * slipp3d seconds the splatter shirt 02:22:56 the splatter shirt is pretty nice 02:23:21 * inode0 votes for the old less expensive style but expects to be outvoted :) 02:24:04 inode0, what does the older one look like ... the only one that I have really seen is the splatter shirt 02:24:12 inode0: while I appreciate the less expensivness; the splatter shirt is far superior. 02:24:19 i agree. if the older ones are less money and we can get more then it makes sense to buy those instead. 02:24:30 We could also always ask for a new shirt design from Design 02:24:45 The splatter shirt costs 50% more 02:25:39 I'm fine with the splatter being an occasional indulgence, don't think it should be the default giveaway shirt though 02:26:23 how about splatter shirts for the ambassadors and the older style shirt for the boxes 02:26:23 is dnhodgson here? 02:26:37 splatter shirts are too expensive 02:26:39 * StabbyMc rembembers he was going to get shirt pricing. 02:26:49 less expensive is better 02:26:54 new design is fine with me too, just remember each color adds cost and 3 colors is relatively about as cheap as we can get 02:26:56 slipp3d: they are only viable in large quantity- otherwise they are a fortune - literally 02:27:27 okay .. well that shoots my idea to the ground then.... 02:27:45 I think i'd like the old shirts better if they were black. 02:27:52 slipp3d: we can get more again at some point, when we are flush :) 02:28:11 StabbyMc, inode0 .... do you have a link to the old design... i would like to take a look at it 02:28:23 they aren't for us, conference people aren't picky 02:28:41 50% more shirts is a big win 02:29:19 or, 33% whatever 02:29:48 For the conference, I'd say go with the cheaper shirts. 02:29:50 http://www.flickr.com/photos/herlo0/2939282628/sizes/l/ 02:29:55 I agree Grantbow ... more shirts would be a good thing 02:30:43 http://www.flickr.com/photos/herlo0/2938430887/sizes/l/ 02:31:04 I also wouldn't fight the I F Freedom shirt on the teeshirt page. 02:31:13 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt 02:31:49 (though could do without the back) 02:31:52 StabbyMc: the "Get Some" one?? or the "Do You?" one 02:32:16 ke4qqq: that's the one, though I'd be very happy without "Get Some" written on them. 02:32:54 thanks inode0 ... 02:33:24 * inode0 sort of likes the join url 02:34:21 join url? 02:34:28 join.fp.o 02:34:47 you know, where you go to join :) 02:34:51 I like the " I (F) Freedom " shirts 02:35:09 I wouldn't be opposed to the join url printed on there too. 02:35:25 or at least fp.or 02:35:56 +1 freedom shirts! 02:36:00 I know it misses the alliteration, but libre would almost be a better fit there 02:36:40 * StabbyMc casts about for volunteers to take on getting a new shirt produced. 02:37:34 No volunteers? 02:37:39 StabbyMc, what would need to be done for getting the new shirts 02:37:41 * inode0 keeps saying we should talk to DemonJester rather than duplicate the work he has already done 02:37:58 at the sametime it's not bad to spread the task love 02:37:59 slipp3d: talking to the vendor listed on the swag page. 02:38:10 sending them the artwork. 02:38:21 approving or modifying the proof 02:38:25 then ordering. 02:38:34 the ordering part is where you get max involved. 02:39:27 * maxamillion is late again ... just got home 02:39:37 sorry :( 02:39:54 * inode0 will suggest (a) get art lined up and (b) discuss it with DemonJester before cold calling the vendor 02:40:01 maxamillion: you just volunteered to chair a committee! 02:40:40 StabbyMc: sweet, what committee? 02:40:46 slipp3d: or what inode0 said. 02:41:04 maxamillion: I haven't decided yet. But it'll be very painful! ;-) 02:41:48 StabbyMc, I can see what i can do about getting some time together and to contact DemonJester about getting this started 02:41:50 StabbyMc: no, it will be the most awesome committee EVAR 02:42:11 slipp3d: thanks for stepping up! 02:42:32 * StabbyMc annoints him with the tee shirt wand 02:43:13 * slipp3d doesn't know if I should duck or not.... O-o 02:43:17 #action slipp3d contacts DemonJester to get started on I F Fedora tee shirts. 02:43:26 slipp3d: too late, it's done ;-) 02:43:36 so are we doing up new artwork for the shirts also? 02:44:04 crossbytes: we have the artwork already for the shirt we were just talking about. 02:44:30 though the print likely needs to be white instead of black like the marketing page. 02:44:30 * ke4qqq wonders if we can do it in black instead of white 02:44:50 ke4qqq: tee color, or text color? 02:45:01 tee color 02:45:20 I was rather enamored with the blue, but it likely would look dumb with jeans. 02:45:30 So black would probably be better. 02:45:55 depends on the color of blue IMO 02:46:21 so what artwork are we thinking... (or do I need to bring this up in a different meeting) 02:46:37 slipp3d: I was thinking https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt 02:46:49 there's already a mock-up, with SVG file for the logo. 02:47:05 * etank likes the idea of a black tee 02:47:05 though I would say lose the sleeve printing 02:47:25 StabbyMc: you realize there are ~12 different shirts ont he page right?? 02:47:25 slipp3d: if you are doing it have at it - you don't need to buckle to pressure from StabbyMc 02:47:26 And we'd have to get http://join.fedoraproject.org printed on the back ? 02:47:48 I also would prefer a black T ... less stain revealing 02:47:53 ke4qqq: true, but only 2, very close together, that say I F Fedora ... 02:47:58 We all seem to like the I F Freedom well enough ... 02:48:13 Er. I F Freedom 02:48:26 Please stop thinking about these shirts in such a personal way - it is swag to give to other people 02:48:40 i second the I F Freedom 02:48:49 slipp3d: though that said, I'd be happy with whatever. as long as it gets done. 02:48:58 inode0: +1 02:49:01 slipp3d: but think some about redesigning the back if you want to 02:49:09 inode0, you answered my question before i could even ask it 02:49:16 inode0: yes - contributors get different shirts from fads and fudcons and the polos and button down shirts. 02:50:19 Ok, any other budget items? 02:50:55 I think that kind of rounds out the task list review from last time as well. 02:51:13 #topic Fedora NA Ambassadors Meeting - Open Floor 02:51:42 I haven't seen lcafiero yet, I know he had an item for open floor. 02:51:54 Anyone else have anything? 02:52:53 ! 02:53:16 I need help with my gpg key on my fas account 02:53:33 can't aggregate my blog postings to the Planet right now 02:53:50 pcalarco: can we work on it in #f-ambassadors ? 02:54:02 pcalarco: sounds like a #fedora or #fedora-ambassadors item. 02:54:07 NM, 02:54:09 ke4qqq: sounds great, thx 02:54:14 ke4qqq: too quick. 02:54:37 If there's nothing else, I'm going to call the meeting. 02:55:03 3 02:55:10 2 02:55:16 1 02:55:19 0 02:55:20 #endmeeting From dnhodgson at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 14:44:23 2009 From: dnhodgson at gmail.com (Darcy Hodgson) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:44:23 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] NA meeting tonight In-Reply-To: <670ec5160912152014x5c65f3a0v5b3c34b6437cba17@mail.gmail.com> References: <670ec5160912152014x5c65f3a0v5b3c34b6437cba17@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <670ec5160912160644l1cc1bca6rddf80700af1b232c@mail.gmail.com> Hello Everyone in the NA, I apologize for missing the meeting last night. I had a action item to get pricing for replenishing the t-shirt stock. I have quotes from both RC Silk, and Screen Printed Products. The prices are about the same from both companies for a white t-shirt if purchasing over 2000 RCSILK - Small - XL - $2.37 each - XXL - XXXXL - $3.84 each Screen Printed Products - All sizes - $2.65 each Both of these quotes include the 3 colour Fedora logo on the front. Darcy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Wed Dec 16 16:17:15 2009 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:17:15 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Unagendized topic for NA meeting In-Reply-To: References: <7a0d56080912151751r6f30f75cl9e36a91ce2a9c203@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7a0d56080912160817r7512982bpad13ba280d91b506@mail.gmail.com> No, Adam. In fact, I think I was later to the meeting than you were, getting stuck in traffic until around 7:20 pacific time. On the IRC channel later, though, inode0 said that there was a discussion of campus ambassadors at FUDCon that we should probably follow up on, and that we should hold an IRC meeting (maybe in #fedora-campusamb since it's not terribly active?) soon. I'm thinking maybe Saturday, noonish or early afternoon eastern (speaking selfishly, 10 am - noon pacific is ideal for me). How does that work for others? Larry Cafiero On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Adam Miller wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Larry Cafiero > wrote: > > Hey, all (at least those in NA) -- > > > > I didn't agendize this because I will be late for the meeting, but during > > the open floor discussion I'd like to discuss a couple of topics relating > to > > the the Campus Ambassador program. > > > > > I made it quite late to the meeting because I didn't make it home in > time, but the part that I was there this wasn't brought up but I am > very interested in discussing the topic in general. Was there a > discussion that I missed or was this not had? > > -Adam > > -- > http://maxamillion.googlepages.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From indigo196 at rochester.rr.com Thu Dec 17 02:48:46 2009 From: indigo196 at rochester.rr.com (Indigo196) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:48:46 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] TechEd Conference Opportunities - New York State Message-ID: <1261018126.2371.18.camel@Tardis> Hello all: I added the following events to the Fedora Events wiki and wanted to make the list aware of them as well. March 25th, 2010 EdTech Day @ Ithaca College http://www.ithaca.edu/edtechday/ I will be working with the show organizers in the next 30 days to establish the details, but my hope is to have a booth next to the Ithaca Free Software Foundation and give a few presentations. I am not sure if the vertical banners will work for this show, but I will know in the next 30-45 days after working with the organizer. Last year, thanks to Karlie Robinson and on-disk.com, we gave out over 300 CDs in 2 hours. I hope to get more media than that for this show. The audience for this show is K-12 and College/University educators, and college students. I do not have solid estimates on attendees, but I would say between 500-750. ---- November 20 - 23 NYSCATE Annual Conference @ Rochester, NY http://www.nyscate.org/conferences.cfm?subpage=361 The RFP will not be for quite a while, but after giving a presentation on FOSS this past year I began formulating a plan for 2010 based on feedback from educators. I am hoping to hold a hands-on full day FOSS lab to expose educators to several FOSS applications as well as Fedora. In addition to the full day lab I will want to have a booth on the vendor floor (Monday and Tuesday only) and give two or three presentations as well. I will be looking to use the Vertical Banners for this show. The audience for this show is K-12 educators and there were over 1000 attendees this past year. If anyone has suggestions or can offer support please contact me. Thanks, Charles Profitt From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Thu Dec 17 04:36:16 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:36:16 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] :) T minus 14 days til 2010. Wishing you all a Happy New Year. :) In-Reply-To: <6c56c38a0912160621x4b4e82ber47272f835c444b7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c56c38a0912160621x4b4e82ber47272f835c444b7f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) :) T minus 14 days til 2010. Wishing you all a Happy New Year. :) ========================================================== Some news - Looks like Fedora 10 (Cambridge) will go End Of Life (EOL) on December 17th - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-November/msg00018.html Therefore, I am now only distributing Fedora 11 and Fedora 12 content. :) During this year, I have enjoyed Fedora 11 (Leonidas) and Fedora 12 (Constantine.) Next year, I look forward to the release of Fedora 13 (Goddard) as well as Fedora 14 (name not determined yet.) :) With the New Year, I hope that we all may do some great things and aspire to work together to make great things possible. :) ========================================================== This may be more applicable to the fedora-freemedia listing but as information, this year, I have offered my Fedora media updates being done with bring me your USB stick and will update, or if you have the bandwidth, then download. It's that easy! :) Trying not to save a tree, but a CD/DVD if you know what I mean. Environment friendly. :) For those without the bandwidth access, DVD media is provided. I think that is my mindset for media. :) ========================================================== Some food for thought ideas for the New Year, here goes: Have you updated your Fedoraproject.org wiki page or other wiki page(s)? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ If not, then when you have some time let's do so. :) Some people who I have interacted with, sort of wonder/stumble upon content and wish that people's wikis as well as other content was updated. If you see something wrong, then ask and/or self-initiative to update. When there is time, this may be a good thing to do. :) ========================================================== Someone asked me about my vendor who does Fedora shirts, bags and hats in Queensboro who will ship with the U.S. as well as other countries. :) I have put that entry at this URL - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey#Projects ========================================================== Also, have you tried or referred others to the FedoraForum.org? http://forums.fedoraforum.org/ I find this a most excellent resource for new as well as seasoned Fedora/Linux users. :) ========================================================== Have you tried accessing the IRC at #fedora-ambassadors? :) If not, then try. :) FYI, I am usually there on the weekend. I look forward to chat. :) ========================================================== May we try to learn from the past and overcome obstacles in our future. The power is yours to choose and do so. :) ========================================================== Alas, a closing thought - Together teamwork works. :v) ========================================================== I have learned a lot from everyone and I think that is the essence of teamwork. :) ========================================================== Sending super positive "Fedora Energy" now from my computer to yours. :v) Please have a great day or evening! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey --------------------------------- ???? ???????? 10 people 10 colors Different strokes for different folks --------------------------------- = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32-1.9.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = From fhornain at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 07:52:55 2009 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:52:55 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] [FOSDEM'10] Distribution Miniconf update Message-ID: <3161376e0912162352k45293004md1c5bfb6785e3e56@mail.gmail.com> Dear *, Following the few information I gave you yesterday night on IRC on Fedora Ambassadors EMEA meeting. Sorry in advance to not be well structured but as it is quite new things are still moving and changing. So, in order to explain you the concept a little bit more deeply : - We have designed a coordinator which is Wouter from Debian. - He is in charge to regroup all talks from different distributions. - We have got three weeks to make proposal. - He has created a wiki page for this on http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/Fosdem2010. You can notice that is not on the Debian wiki. it was done to be fair between each of us. - A list of SPOC have been published on the wiki for all distribution which would like to participate to such event. - I have seen yesteday some of you were ready to do talks and were not afraid to do it in collaboration wiith other distribution. So, if you are still interested to do it or want to do feel free to contact me and I will do the rest to make you in contact with other speakers. Please tell me it quickly in order to let me time to organize myself. 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URL: From fhornain at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 07:55:36 2009 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:55:36 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fwd: [FOSDEM'10] Distribution Miniconf update In-Reply-To: <3161376e0912162352k45293004md1c5bfb6785e3e56@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0912162352k45293004md1c5bfb6785e3e56@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0912162355x32864d83h4a66bc58ad8499e4@mail.gmail.com> >From the FOSDEM TEAM and about Distribution Miniconf : *The idea of this miniconf is to have sessions around common solutions or* * pain points, e.g. present how you do certain things at CentOS (release* * management, packaging, cross-arch packaging, packaging* * Java|Perl|Python|Ruby|PHP stuff, translation, bugtracking, how you work* * with upstream, community building, legal aspects, 3rd party* * repositories, etc...) or technical or process solutions you came up* * with. On the other hand, we can also plan specific workshop sessions* * where we discuss common pain points (working with upstream, translation,* * etc...) to put our experience, feedback and ideas together and possibly* * come out with common solutions that would provide more streamlining and* * less work for each of us.* Thanks a lot BR Fred ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Frederic Hornain Date: Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM Subject: [FOSDEM'10] Distribution Miniconf update To: Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Dear *, Following the few information I gave you yesterday night on IRC on Fedora Ambassadors EMEA meeting. Sorry in advance to not be well structured but as it is quite new things are still moving and changing. So, in order to explain you the concept a little bit more deeply : - We have designed a coordinator which is Wouter from Debian. - He is in charge to regroup all talks from different distributions. - We have got three weeks to make proposal. - He has created a wiki page for this on http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/Fosdem2010. You can notice that is not on the Debian wiki. it was done to be fair between each of us. - A list of SPOC have been published on the wiki for all distribution which would like to participate to such event. - I have seen yesteday some of you were ready to do talks and were not afraid to do it in collaboration wiith other distribution. So, if you are still interested to do it or want to do feel free to contact me and I will do the rest to make you in contact with other speakers. Please tell me it quickly in order to let me time to organize myself. Thanks for reading and in advance for your help. BR Fred -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fhornain at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 08:50:17 2009 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:50:17 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fwd: [FOSDEM'10] Distribution Miniconf update In-Reply-To: <3161376e0912162355x32864d83h4a66bc58ad8499e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0912162352k45293004md1c5bfb6785e3e56@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0912162355x32864d83h4a66bc58ad8499e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0912170050u6cc26818sa41f8224c60ddfd7@mail.gmail.com> Dear *, FYI, I have only proposed the "Fedora Governance" - Max - to the distribution miniconf coordinator. So, we have got 1 talk in the shot list http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/Fosdem2010. BR Frederic ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Frederic Hornain Date: Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:55 AM Subject: Fwd: [FOSDEM'10] Distribution Miniconf update To: Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >From the FOSDEM TEAM and about Distribution Miniconf : *The idea of this miniconf is to have sessions around common solutions or* * pain points, e.g. present how you do certain things at CentOS (release* * management, packaging, cross-arch packaging, packaging* * Java|Perl|Python|Ruby|PHP stuff, translation, bugtracking, how you work* * with upstream, community building, legal aspects, 3rd party* * repositories, etc...) or technical or process solutions you came up* * with. On the other hand, we can also plan specific workshop sessions* * where we discuss common pain points (working with upstream, translation,* * etc...) to put our experience, feedback and ideas together and possibly* * come out with common solutions that would provide more streamlining and* * less work for each of us.* Thanks a lot BR Fred ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Frederic Hornain Date: Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM Subject: [FOSDEM'10] Distribution Miniconf update To: Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Dear *, Following the few information I gave you yesterday night on IRC on Fedora Ambassadors EMEA meeting. Sorry in advance to not be well structured but as it is quite new things are still moving and changing. So, in order to explain you the concept a little bit more deeply : - We have designed a coordinator which is Wouter from Debian. - He is in charge to regroup all talks from different distributions. - We have got three weeks to make proposal. - He has created a wiki page for this on http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/Fosdem2010. You can notice that is not on the Debian wiki. it was done to be fair between each of us. - A list of SPOC have been published on the wiki for all distribution which would like to participate to such event. - I have seen yesteday some of you were ready to do talks and were not afraid to do it in collaboration wiith other distribution. So, if you are still interested to do it or want to do feel free to contact me and I will do the rest to make you in contact with other speakers. Please tell me it quickly in order to let me time to organize myself. Thanks for reading and in advance for your help. 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Frields) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:09:51 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Election results for FAmSCo, FESCo coming shortly Message-ID: <20091217150951.GI5536@victoria.internal.frields.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Our election coordinator, Nigel Jones, was too swamped today to process all of the election results, but will be doing so later today (UTC time). Thanks for your patience, and thanks to Nigel for all his work coordinating the voting system and results. - -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFLKkm/rNvJN70RNxcRAjY9AKCoRs/EplwBz3kXCbYJlW9heW19TQCgtHmx wmnUs+PWljamrXBKBi1jq/c= =8gZv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From edh.drake at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 20:25:54 2009 From: edh.drake at gmail.com (Elijah Hanson) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:25:54 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] shipping for F12 media in EMEA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I am in Ghana and have recieved many requests from people in and around West Africa for the CD's,I could also distribute without any charge within the region.Indeed, we are in dire need of the media here, as Internet connection is not that fast.Any quantity would be welcome. My Address: ------------------------------ ----------------------------- Elijah Hanson E.T.T P.O BOX A457,LA,ACCRA GHANA. ----------------------------------------------------------- Regards, Elijah. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > Hi all, > > The company in Munich is ready to ship out the F12 media, and we need to > give them a few addresses. We have 1,500 Desktop Spin Live CDs (32 bit) and > 1500 DVDs (32 bit). > > ***IMPORTANT*** -- I only want to give them 3 or 4 addresses, and break the > shipment up to those folks. Then for individual small events, Fedora > contributors can re-send a few CDs to Ambassadors and save their receipts > either for FAMSCo or for the Fedora EMEA non-profit to reimburse them. > > I'm thinking of having CDs/DVDs sent to: > > (1) Frederic Hornian -- who can bring them to FOSDEM > > (2) Joerg Simon -- who can have some for Chemnitz, and also maybe re-send > them to other folks. > > (3) Italy -- who would want to be the person who hangs on to the media? > > (4) ????? Is there anyone else who either already knows that they need a > bunch of CDs, or who is willing to be a holder of CDs and send them to other > folks in EMEA who do need them? > > I filled that role some of the time last year when I was in Amsterdam, but > now that I'm back in Raleigh, I can't mail CDs around Europe anymore :) > > ***REMEMBER*** -- don't write your address on a public mailing list that is > archived forever. Let's just figure out how we're going to break up the > shipments, and then collect addresses off-list. > > Thanks, > > Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From edh.drake at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 20:31:01 2009 From: edh.drake at gmail.com (Elijah Hanson) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:31:01 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] :) T minus 14 days til 2010. Wishing you all a Happy New Year. :) In-Reply-To: References: <6c56c38a0912160621x4b4e82ber47272f835c444b7f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks David for the new year message,hoping for bigger things and challenging heights to attain too. 2009/12/17 David Ramsey > > Hello Everyone, > > Greetings. :) > > :) T minus 14 days til 2010. Wishing you all a Happy New Year. :) > > ========================================================== > > Some news - > > Looks like Fedora 10 (Cambridge) will go End Of Life (EOL) on December 17th > - > > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-November/msg00018.html > > Therefore, I am now only distributing Fedora 11 and Fedora 12 content. :) > > During this year, I have enjoyed Fedora 11 (Leonidas) and Fedora 12 > (Constantine.) > > Next year, I look forward to the release of Fedora 13 (Goddard) as well as > Fedora 14 (name not determined yet.) :) > > With the New Year, I hope that we all may do some great things and aspire > to work together to make great things possible. :) > > ========================================================== > > This may be more applicable to the fedora-freemedia listing but as > information, this year, I have offered my Fedora media updates being done > with bring me your USB stick and will update, > > or > > if you have the bandwidth, then download. It's that easy! :) > > Trying not to save a tree, but a CD/DVD if you know what I mean. > Environment friendly. :) > > For those without the bandwidth access, DVD media is provided. I think > that is my mindset for media. :) > > ========================================================== > > Some food for thought ideas for the New Year, here goes: > > Have you updated your Fedoraproject.org wiki page or other wiki page(s)? > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ > > If not, then when you have some time let's do so. :) > > Some people who I have interacted with, sort of wonder/stumble upon content > and wish that people's wikis as well as other content was updated. If you > see something wrong, then ask and/or self-initiative to update. When there > is time, this may be a good thing to do. :) > > ========================================================== > > Someone asked me about my vendor who does Fedora shirts, bags and hats in > Queensboro who will ship with the U.S. as well as other countries. :) > > I have put that entry at this URL - > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey#Projects > > ========================================================== > > Also, have you tried or referred others to the FedoraForum.org? > > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/ > > I find this a most excellent resource for new as well as seasoned > Fedora/Linux users. :) > > ========================================================== > > Have you tried accessing the IRC at #fedora-ambassadors? :) > > If not, then try. :) > > FYI, I am usually there on the weekend. I look forward to chat. :) > > ========================================================== > > May we try to learn from the past and overcome obstacles in our future. > The power is yours to choose and do so. :) > > ========================================================== > > Alas, a closing thought - > > Together teamwork works. :v) > > ========================================================== > > I have learned a lot from everyone and I think that is the essence of > teamwork. :) > > ========================================================== > > Sending super positive "Fedora Energy" now from my computer to yours. :v) > > Please have a great day or evening! :~) > > Thank You > Sincerely > =-=-=-=-= > - David - > =-=-=-=-= > David Ramsey > --------------------------------- > ???? > ???????? > 10 people 10 colors > Different strokes for different folks > --------------------------------- > = > Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey > * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) > kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686.PAE > * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - > 2.6.32-1.9.fc13.i686.PAE > With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate > 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. > = > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <7b7b00ef0912171412w6c396fd4j6da410c0779120c2@mail.gmail.com> References: <7b7b00ef0912171412w6c396fd4j6da410c0779120c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B2AB2B7.6060900@nd.edu> Kam Salisbury wrote: > After a short period away from the project... I am back on the list. > Thank you for everyon'e patience, especially in the North America and > Mid Atlantic United States areas. > > I am looking forwaard to 2010 and further promotion of the current > release and the upcoming release as well. > -- > Kam Salisbury > http://kamsalisbury.com Welcome back, Kam! If you are interested in picking up a beat at FWN, let me know! - pascal From kam at kamsalisbury.com Thu Dec 17 23:03:07 2009 From: kam at kamsalisbury.com (Kam Salisbury) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:03:07 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] I'm back on... In-Reply-To: <4B2AB2B7.6060900@nd.edu> References: <7b7b00ef0912171412w6c396fd4j6da410c0779120c2@mail.gmail.com> <4B2AB2B7.6060900@nd.edu> Message-ID: <7b7b00ef0912171503j5ecd7796v8b3de2128eee2dd9@mail.gmail.com> That sounds great Pascal, let me know what beats are in need of help so I can look them over before committing to them this year. On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Pascal Calarco wrote: > Kam Salisbury wrote: > >> After a short period away from the project... I am back on the list. Thank >> you for everyon'e patience, especially in the North America and Mid Atlantic >> United States areas. >> >> I am looking forwaard to 2010 and further promotion of the current release >> and the upcoming release as well. >> -- >> Kam Salisbury >> http://kamsalisbury.com >> > > Welcome back, Kam! If you are interested in picking up a beat at FWN, let > me know! > > - pascal > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- -- Kam Salisbury http://kamsalisbury.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Dec 18 05:53:08 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:53:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] shipping for F12 media in EMEA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Elijah Hanson wrote: > I am in Ghana and have recieved many requests from people in and > around West Africa for the CD's,I could also distribute without any > charge within the region.Indeed, we are in dire need of the media > here, as Internet connection is not that fast.Any quantity would be > welcome. You've been added to the list, and a private email has been sent to you to finalize things. We're going to have plenty of media left over after these shipments go out, and we'll be able to send more in January to anyone else who needs some. --Max From josephine.tannhauser at googlemail.com Fri Dec 18 08:25:48 2009 From: josephine.tannhauser at googlemail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Josephine_Tannh=C3=A4user?=) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:25:48 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] The 4f-problematic of Fedora. Message-ID: <3668e9f50912180025k135dd27fv1b7b0e158484dcd6@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I have some problems with the definitions of the 4f's. friends - this is a clear thing , we are all friends, the world is pink and there are no conflicts (until proven otherwise) features - is a clear thing to, fedora is a distribution huge amount of features (perhaps not enough features ;-) we need more). first - there is my first problem. This is like a racing duel with other distributions. We can not win on all sectors. This is more a destination, our goal.... We WANT to be the first, but we are not always the first. freedom - This one is my biggest problem. What's the definition of freedom? The definition of freedom, which was definied by the FSF, formed the understanding of freedom in the whole world. And the FSF (Richard Stallman himself) said, that fedora is not free. So what's the current understanding of freedom in the fedoraproject? I haven't found arguments to discuss with someone about it. -- Josephine "Fine" Tannh?user 2.6.31.5-127.fc12.i686.PAE From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 08:56:30 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:26:30 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] The 4f-problematic of Fedora. In-Reply-To: <3668e9f50912180025k135dd27fv1b7b0e158484dcd6@mail.gmail.com> References: <3668e9f50912180025k135dd27fv1b7b0e158484dcd6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00912180056x2c8d53cfh50fcc3f2f1e15e5a@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Josephine Tannh?user wrote: > I have some problems with the definitions of the 4f's. [snipping the rest] Did you have the problems after going through ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 18 09:00:46 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (Joerg Simon) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:00:46 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] The 4f-problematic of Fedora. In-Reply-To: <3668e9f50912180025k135dd27fv1b7b0e158484dcd6@mail.gmail.com> References: <3668e9f50912180025k135dd27fv1b7b0e158484dcd6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200912181000.54663.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Hi Josephine, On Friday 18 December 2009 09:25:48 Josephine Tannh?user wrote: > Hi all, > I have some problems with the definitions of the 4f's. it is always good to think over and discuss our foundations from time to time - thanks for bringing this up - i started writing to answer your points - but after i checked back with what is different from what we have created in the wiki i decided that this clarifications are much better than mine. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Foundations - maybe lets discuss on this basis cu Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 18 09:04:16 2009 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:04:16 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] The 4f-problematic of Fedora. In-Reply-To: <3668e9f50912180025k135dd27fv1b7b0e158484dcd6@mail.gmail.com> References: <3668e9f50912180025k135dd27fv1b7b0e158484dcd6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d319b780912180104k5635826ep3c0c21f2bfe4f81a@mail.gmail.com> Hi, > friends - this is a clear thing , we are all friends, the world is > pink and there are no conflicts (until proven otherwise) Not really. But at least we're striving for it in our community. > features - is a clear thing to, fedora is a distribution huge amount > of features (perhaps not enough features ;-) we need more). Again, we try to always introduce new features. > first - there is my first problem. This is like a racing duel with > other distributions. We can not win on all sectors. This is more a > destination, our goal.... We WANT to be the first, but we are not > always the first. t's like you say : we want to lead free software innovation (and we often manage to). > freedom - This one is my biggest problem. What's the definition of freedom? > The definition of freedom, which was definied by the FSF, formed the > understanding of freedom in the whole world. And the FSF (Richard > Stallman himself) said, that fedora is not free. So what's the current > understanding of freedom in the fedoraproject? > I haven't found arguments to discuss with someone about it. IIRC, the problem with the FSF was about the Fedora trademark and logo that are not free. Other than that, all software and content in Fedora has to be under a free license: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing#SoftwareLicenses So to sum up, you could see the 4 foundations (not the 4 F, remember that in some languages, those foundations are words that don't start with an F :) as goals towards which we are striving. Sure we don't always manage to achieve them, but we're trying very hard, and we're setting an example. And if some other project manages to be the *first* to develop some new *feature* in a *community-friendly* way and with *FOSS only*, it's good, because it means that others are doing the Right Thing (c). ;) Best regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) From josephine.tannhauser at googlemail.com Fri Dec 18 10:21:42 2009 From: josephine.tannhauser at googlemail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Josephine_Tannh=C3=A4user?=) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:21:42 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] The 4f-problematic of Fedora. In-Reply-To: <2d319b780912180104k5635826ep3c0c21f2bfe4f81a@mail.gmail.com> References: <3668e9f50912180025k135dd27fv1b7b0e158484dcd6@mail.gmail.com> <2d319b780912180104k5635826ep3c0c21f2bfe4f81a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3668e9f50912180221o4bddc539tf34df3bdd660ac27@mail.gmail.com> 2009/12/18, sankarshan : > Did you have the problems after going through > ? I read this before! 2009/12/18, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) : > IIRC, the problem with the FSF was about the Fedora trademark and logo > that are not free. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreeSoftwareAnalysis/FSF no we ship firmware binaries in the kernel package! -- Josephine "Fine" Tannh?user 2.6.31.5-127.fc12.i686.PAE From luca at foppiano.org Fri Dec 18 10:26:39 2009 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:26:39 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] The 4f-problematic of Fedora. In-Reply-To: <3668e9f50912180221o4bddc539tf34df3bdd660ac27@mail.gmail.com> References: <3668e9f50912180025k135dd27fv1b7b0e158484dcd6@mail.gmail.com> <2d319b780912180104k5635826ep3c0c21f2bfe4f81a@mail.gmail.com> <3668e9f50912180221o4bddc539tf34df3bdd660ac27@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B2B58DF.2080409@foppiano.org> On 12/18/2009 11:21 AM, Josephine Tannh?user wrote: > 2009/12/18, sankarshan : > >> Did you have the problems after going through >> ? >> > I read this before! > > 2009/12/18, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) : > >> IIRC, the problem with the FSF was about the Fedora trademark and logo >> that are not free. >> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreeSoftwareAnalysis/FSF > no we ship firmware binaries in the kernel package! > indeed, but IMHO what said FSF is not the bible. ;-) IMHO the firmware binaries are required to have a usable machine (and cover as much as possible the various configuration, hardware combinations). In fedora all the software shipped by the official repositories is free software. Bye Luca From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 10:27:12 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:57:12 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] The 4f-problematic of Fedora. In-Reply-To: <3668e9f50912180221o4bddc539tf34df3bdd660ac27@mail.gmail.com> References: <3668e9f50912180025k135dd27fv1b7b0e158484dcd6@mail.gmail.com> <2d319b780912180104k5635826ep3c0c21f2bfe4f81a@mail.gmail.com> <3668e9f50912180221o4bddc539tf34df3bdd660ac27@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00912180227w6228345dmae47ca62096a4066@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Josephine Tannh?user wrote: > 2009/12/18, sankarshan : >> Did you have the problems after going through >> ? > I read this before! The reason I asked was to allow us to have a discussion as to whether you have concerns about how the Foundations are explained on the page or, whether it is more about how you interpret them. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 18 10:27:56 2009 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:27:56 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] The 4f-problematic of Fedora. In-Reply-To: <3668e9f50912180221o4bddc539tf34df3bdd660ac27@mail.gmail.com> References: <3668e9f50912180025k135dd27fv1b7b0e158484dcd6@mail.gmail.com> <2d319b780912180104k5635826ep3c0c21f2bfe4f81a@mail.gmail.com> <3668e9f50912180221o4bddc539tf34df3bdd660ac27@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d319b780912180227m2d8d8956h49adca312261b7ba@mail.gmail.com> > 2009/12/18, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) : >> IIRC, the problem with the FSF was about the Fedora trademark and logo >> that are not free. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreeSoftwareAnalysis/FSF > no we ship firmware binaries in the kernel package! I thought this had changed with Fedora 10, when we split those binary firmwares to the kernel-firmware package. Of course, it is installed by default, but at least now you can remove it. And that's a first step towards eliminating them all together. Anyway, that doesn't change my main point: we don't necessarily succeed in fulfilling those 4 foundations. They are nevertheless our foundations, what we believe in, and what we try to achieve. Best regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) From felix at fetzig.org Fri Dec 18 11:01:47 2009 From: felix at fetzig.org (Felix Kaechele) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:01:47 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] The 4f-problematic of Fedora. In-Reply-To: <3668e9f50912180025k135dd27fv1b7b0e158484dcd6@mail.gmail.com> References: <3668e9f50912180025k135dd27fv1b7b0e158484dcd6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B2B611B.6020700@fetzig.org> I think it's mostly about what Paul Frields said at FUDCon Toronto 2009 in his "State of Fedora" speech: Be bold. I think these statements are meant to be bold about Fedora and also challenge other distributions. Felix From tatica at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 18 12:14:08 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 07:44:08 -0430 Subject: [Ambassadors] The 4f-problematic of Fedora. In-Reply-To: <3668e9f50912180025k135dd27fv1b7b0e158484dcd6@mail.gmail.com> References: <3668e9f50912180025k135dd27fv1b7b0e158484dcd6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <27a6293b0912180414q41eb88e4v950407cb45dc6f86@mail.gmail.com> Hello, this is my point of view of 4-foundations: 2009/12/18 Josephine Tannh?user > Hi all, > > I have some problems with the definitions of the 4f's. > > friends - this is a clear thing , we are all friends, the world is > pink and there are no conflicts (until proven otherwise) > We not only share a common environment, we also share experiences, meals, chats and sometimes some users are family or make their best friends around community (this is my particular case) > features - is a clear thing to, fedora is a distribution huge amount > of features (perhaps not enough features ;-) we need more). > We are always improving, if you see other distros packages, you will see that many times they have old versions while we have *almost always* the most new software. > > first - there is my first problem. This is like a racing duel with > other distributions. We can not win on all sectors. This is more a > destination, our goal.... We WANT to be the first, but we are not > always the first. > I think this is not only about the environment. If you check our developers list, artwork, translations, package and go on; you'll find also people who leads Free/libre Software around the world. Be first is not only be at top of some ranking, is also be first as a profetional, community and team. > > freedom - This one is my biggest problem. What's the definition of freedom? > The definition of freedom, which was definied by the FSF, formed the > understanding of freedom in the whole world. And the FSF (Richard > Stallman himself) said, that fedora is not free. So what's the current > understanding of freedom in the fedoraproject? > I haven't found arguments to discuss with someone about it. > Freedom is related to something like this "we have both packages (free/libres and some non-free/libres)" *you are free to choose because is your computer*. FSF philosophy is not about "let the user choose", is more like "we choose what you can and can not use". Fedora let the choice to the user... that's what *freedom* really means. Merry Christmas :) > > -- > Josephine "Fine" Tannh?user > 2.6.31.5-127.fc12.i686.PAE > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From krsloco at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 12:29:37 2009 From: krsloco at gmail.com (Kellermam) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:29:37 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] The 4f-problematic of Fedora. In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0912180414q41eb88e4v950407cb45dc6f86@mail.gmail.com> References: <3668e9f50912180025k135dd27fv1b7b0e158484dcd6@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0912180414q41eb88e4v950407cb45dc6f86@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I think some equal Maria Leandro, fedora is really free, it's thinking in user, sorry for mybad english, I dont speak this language. Kellerman Rivero Fedora Ambassador Enviado desde mi iPhone El 18/12/2009, a las 08:14 a.m., Mar?a Leandro escribi?: > Hello, this is my point of view of 4-foundations: > > 2009/12/18 Josephine Tannh?user > Hi all, > > I have some problems with the definitions of the 4f's. > > friends - this is a clear thing , we are all friends, the world is > pink and there are no conflicts (until proven otherwise) > > We not only share a common environment, we also share experiences, > meals, chats and sometimes some users are family or make their best > friends around community (this is my particular case) > > > features - is a clear thing to, fedora is a distribution huge amount > of features (perhaps not enough features ;-) we need more). > > We are always improving, if you see other distros packages, you will > see that many times they have old versions while we have *almost > always* the most new software. > > > first - there is my first problem. This is like a racing duel with > other distributions. We can not win on all sectors. This is more a > destination, our goal.... We WANT to be the first, but we are not > always the first. > > I think this is not only about the environment. If you check our > developers list, artwork, translations, package and go on; you'll > find also people who leads Free/libre Software around the world. Be > first is not only be at top of some ranking, is also be first as a > profetional, community and team. > > > freedom - This one is my biggest problem. What's the definition of > freedom? > The definition of freedom, which was definied by the FSF, formed the > understanding of freedom in the whole world. And the FSF (Richard > Stallman himself) said, that fedora is not free. So what's the current > understanding of freedom in the fedoraproject? > I haven't found arguments to discuss with someone about it. > > Freedom is related to something like this "we have both packages > (free/libres and some non-free/libres)" *you are free to choose > because is your computer*. > > FSF philosophy is not about "let the user choose", is more like "we > choose what you can and can not use". Fedora let the choice to the > user... that's what *freedom* really means. > > > > Merry Christmas :) > > > > -- > Josephine "Fine" Tannh?user > 2.6.31.5-127.fc12.i686.PAE > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dca at projectcellular.com Fri Dec 18 13:03:03 2009 From: dca at projectcellular.com (David Anderson) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:03:03 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] The 4f-problematic of Fedora. Message-ID: <13737165.3117431261141383968.JavaMail.servlet@perfora> >Hi all, > >I have some problems with the definitions of the 4f's. > >friends - this is a clear thing , we are all friends, the world is >pink and there are no conflicts (until proven otherwise) > >features - is a clear thing to, fedora is a distribution huge amount >of features (perhaps not enough features ;-) we need more). > >first - there is my first problem. This is like a racing duel with >other distributions. We can not win on all sectors. This is more a >destination, our goal.... We WANT to be the first, but we are not >always the first. > Look at it this way: there's really no difference between Fedora, openSUSE, Ubuntu, & Mandriva. Maybe, circa 2006 it was a little different, but today not so much. Only differentiators would be things like YaST, MCC, Ubuntu Software Center, etc. Other than that? What Fedora/RH has is a lot of the features that all these distro(s) share whether used as a desktop or server were originally either written by RH/Fedora dev (NetworkManager, etc) or first implemented in Fedora (PulseAudio). It's not bragging rights, it's just the way it is. Should 'First' have been used in the creedo, I dunno'? > >freedom - This one is my biggest problem. What's the definition of freedom? >The definition of freedom, which was definied by the FSF, formed the >understanding of freedom in the whole world. And the FSF (Richard >Stallman himself) said, that fedora is not free. So what's the current >understanding of freedom in the fedoraproject? >I haven't found arguments to discuss with someone about it. > Not to sound pragmatic, but the whole 'freedom' thing has gone out the window. 'Free' as in beer, 'free' as in no cost, 'freedom' as in no closed binaries or other odd-licensed modules, etc, etc. Thanks to companies like IBM, Intel, ATI, AMD, (note: who have contributed to the linux kernel) and the like have changed it where GNU/Linux is now a viable, supportable, extensible, dependable OS that can scale from calculators, to set-top TV boxes, to large big-iron mainframes. As things go, thanks to the GPL at least the GNU/Linux as an OS concept (not so much the delivered product) is pretty much as close to free as anything. I really don't think the 4 F's were meant or intended to create some political kind of movement, all things considered I think it is as close to a good jist or marketing slogan for new user(s) as you can get. Not to mention, 'Linux for human beings' was already taken. hehe. >-- >Josephine "Fine" Tannh?user >2.6.31.5-127.fc12.i686.PAE > >-- >Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From fhornain at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 13:41:43 2009 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:41:43 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [FOSDEM'10] Distribution Miniconf update In-Reply-To: <3161376e0912170050u6cc26818sa41f8224c60ddfd7@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0912162352k45293004md1c5bfb6785e3e56@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0912162355x32864d83h4a66bc58ad8499e4@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0912170050u6cc26818sa41f8224c60ddfd7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0912180541j67d2b3c0hfe5fd6e8a0e5fb64@mail.gmail.com> Dear *, *Paid Attention that the deadline is the 3rd of January in order to be on the short list.* Three talks have been proposed from Fedora community: - Max Spevack: Fedora Governance mail. - Sandro Mathys and Marcus Moeller : Spacewalk mail . - Thomas Canniot and Armel Kermorvant: Fedora-fr and upstream French communities mail However, you can also join other talks proposed by other distributions : - Gabor Szabo: packaging perl and CPAN modules. mail. - Jeff Johnson: Transactionally Protected Package Management. mail. - Vincent Untz: Working with GNOME upstream. mail. - John Thomson: Transactional Roll-backs and Upgrades. mail /link . - Dominique Dumont: Config::Model and configuration upgrades during package upgrade. mail, second mail. - Nicolas Pierron: the configuration system of NixOS. mail. - Guillaume Rousse: the youri project. mail. - Anne NICOLAS: translations of package descriptions. mail. - Ralf Treinen and Stefano Zacchiroli: Cross-distro dependency resolution. mail. - Ralph Angenendt : Infrastructure Management mail - Ralph Angenendt : Mirror Management mail - Thomas Koch: Packaging with topgit mail - Sune Vuorela: Shared libraries in Debian mail Ref : http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/Fosdem2010 Kind Regards Frederic On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Dear *, > > FYI, I have only proposed the "Fedora Governance" - Max - to the > distribution miniconf coordinator. > So, we have got 1 talk in the shot list > http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/Fosdem2010. > > BR > Frederic > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Frederic Hornain > Date: Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:55 AM > Subject: Fwd: [FOSDEM'10] Distribution Miniconf update > To: Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > From the FOSDEM TEAM and about Distribution Miniconf : > > *The idea of this miniconf is to have sessions around common solutions or* > * pain points, e.g. present how you do certain things at CentOS (release* > * management, packaging, cross-arch packaging, packaging* > * Java|Perl|Python|Ruby|PHP stuff, translation, bugtracking, how you work* > * with upstream, community building, legal aspects, 3rd party* > * repositories, etc...) or technical or process solutions you came up* > * with. On the other hand, we can also plan specific workshop sessions* > * where we discuss common pain points (working with upstream, translation, > * > * etc...) to put our experience, feedback and ideas together and possibly* > * come out with common solutions that would provide more streamlining and* > * less work for each of us.* > > Thanks a lot > BR > Fred > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Frederic Hornain > Date: Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM > Subject: [FOSDEM'10] Distribution Miniconf update > To: Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > Dear *, > > Following the few information I gave you yesterday night on IRC on Fedora > Ambassadors EMEA meeting. > > Sorry in advance to not be well structured but as it is quite new things > are still moving and changing. > > So, in order to explain you the concept a little bit more deeply : > > > - We have designed a coordinator which is Wouter from Debian. > - He is in charge to regroup all talks from different distributions. > - We have got three weeks to make proposal. > - He has created a wiki page for this on > http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/Fosdem2010. You can notice > that is not on the Debian wiki. it was done to be fair between each of us. > - A list of SPOC have been published on the wiki for all distribution > which would like to participate to such event. > - I have seen yesteday some of you were ready to do talks and were not > afraid to do it in collaboration wiith other distribution. So, if you are > still interested to do it or want to do feel free to contact me and I will > do the rest to make you in contact with other speakers. 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URL: From loupgaroublond at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 14:08:17 2009 From: loupgaroublond at gmail.com (Yaakov Nemoy) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:08:17 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] The 4f-problematic of Fedora. In-Reply-To: <3668e9f50912180025k135dd27fv1b7b0e158484dcd6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Josephine, I'm going to reply inline here, but i've read through the thread too and i'm going to add the bits i think are missing. Keep in mind that these four foundations are not unique to us in any way. They are just the moral core we try to run Fedora as a project around. Like other's have said, it's good to reevaluate the Foundations from time to time to see if they are still relevant. It's also good to have to rexplain them to people who have questions because it helps us understand it better. 2009/12/18 Josephine Tannh?user : > Hi all, > > I have some problems with the definitions of the 4f's. > > friends - this is a clear thing , we are all friends, the world is > pink and there are no conflicts (until proven otherwise) Try to take this from a slightly less literal approach. Conflicts always happen, but this is what happens between friends. Our goal is to see community happen. What i see as a clear thing is that we treat each other as friends and not just 'as coworkers' or something else less personal. It's a statement on how we view participants and contributors. > > features - is a clear thing to, fedora is a distribution huge amount > of features (perhaps not enough features ;-) we need more). I'm not 100% sure on the intentions here, but this stemmed from our development process, where we focus around features. It's a convenient entry point for anyone looking to try out new ideas. > > first - there is my first problem. This is like a racing duel with > other distributions. We can not win on all sectors. This is more a > destination, our goal.... We WANT to be the first, but we are not > always the first. We aren't racing anyone here. I like to explain this as "first among equals". It's a bit of a paradox, but it doesn't describe our destination, but how we get there. There are a number of things many other distros do first, but that doesn't mean they are 'more first' than we are. Our mission is to be the first out with the technologies that interest us, in a completely integrated fashion. For example, a number of distros picked up ext4 as the default file system long before Fedora did. How many of them integrated it with encryption including the necessary password prompts in plymouth and anaconda? > > freedom - This one is my biggest problem. What's the definition of freedom? > The definition of freedom, which was definied by the FSF, formed the > understanding of freedom in the whole world. And the FSF (Richard > Stallman himself) said, that fedora is not free. So what's the current > understanding of freedom in the fedoraproject? > I haven't found arguments to discuss with someone about it. Everyone has a different argument of 'freedom'. RMS has mentioned before that he sees open source software that implements patent encumbered algorithms as 'free'. He was definitely one of the first people to define 'free' but there are so many definitions now. It's more important for us to use our own internal definition of 'free' and hope we get it right. The goal is to provide a distribution and project that advances the cause of free software and free culture. The three biggest concerns i've seen are binary firmware blobs, binary drivers and media codecs. We ship with the blobs because without them, many machines won't work at all. We wouldn't have a way to deliver free software otherwise, because the entire operating system simply could not work effectively. This is with the eventual goal to be rid of them sometime in the future. Certain purists disagree here, but if this bother's you, i refer you back to point one, Friends. Drivers are trickier. They are also necessary in some cases, but decreasingly so. Unlike the blobs, we don't have the rights to distribute certain well known key drivers. Some hardworking Fedora developers have been hard at work for the past few releases to provide the best free and open source drivers possible for these devices. This is an active example of the project leading towards a more free environment for people to use. Media codecs are another contention point. Red Hat's legal team has discussed liability that Red Hat is not willing to take, before, but the problem is not just the liability to a certain North American software service provider. The problem is that certain codecs and algorithms are encumbered by more than just software alone. Shipping these codecs encourage people to use media formats that could limit other people in other ways. Unlike hardware, which can be costly to replace, software and data can always be transcribed and converted for much less effort, time and money. Pushing for better and free codecs, free culture and all the good things that come out of that is actually a low hanging fruit, something easy to work on and that we can see effective change in quickly. The definition we use for free comes from how we pick the battles we can fight in order to reach our ultimate goal. It's a topic that comes up again and again, and can be pretty contentious. It's good to ask questions here, but for once, i'm going to caution you to be careful how you word things and which questions you ask on public mailing lists. This topic is really prone to nasty, long and arguably nearly worthless threads. If you have more questions about this, there are a number of places you can look. If you have questions about the legal aspects, see the wiki https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal . When discussing issues of freedom on a mailing list and you feel the argument is contentious, perhaps you might want to email the target offlist. If you have questions whether a post is going to cause trouble, ask one of the Ambassador mentors first to look over your comments. If you have questions though, please share. -Yaakov -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 272 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From stickster at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 13:25:06 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:25:06 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] The 4f-problematic of Fedora. In-Reply-To: <2d319b780912180227m2d8d8956h49adca312261b7ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <3668e9f50912180025k135dd27fv1b7b0e158484dcd6@mail.gmail.com> <2d319b780912180104k5635826ep3c0c21f2bfe4f81a@mail.gmail.com> <3668e9f50912180221o4bddc539tf34df3bdd660ac27@mail.gmail.com> <2d319b780912180227m2d8d8956h49adca312261b7ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091218132506.GB18175@victoria.internal.frields.org> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:27:56AM +0100, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: > > 2009/12/18, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) : > >> IIRC, the problem with the FSF was about the Fedora trademark and logo > >> that are not free. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreeSoftwareAnalysis/FSF > > no we ship firmware binaries in the kernel package! > > I thought this had changed with Fedora 10, when we split those binary > firmwares to the kernel-firmware package. Of course, it is installed > by default, but at least now you can remove it. And that's a first > step towards eliminating them all together. > > Anyway, that doesn't change my main point: we don't necessarily > succeed in fulfilling those 4 foundations. They are nevertheless our > foundations, what we believe in, and what we try to achieve. I think Mathieu and some other people are pointing at the same general concept correctly. The Foundations are intended to be *core values*, meaning they represent the things that are important to us as a Project. We share these values, and we strive to make them part of everything we do. And where we find we could improve, we try to do so. The core values, in some cases, are similar to other projects; in others, they differentiate us. Both are a good thing and help to keep Fedora not only relevant but special. Having these core values written down is very important for us as a project, because they represent the things we need to agree on as a community to make progress. For example, if someone doesn't believe the concept of friends -- sharing values and working constructively together -- is important, it's likely that person won't be able to enjoy time spent in the Fedora Project. So these core values also provide a way for people to judge whether the Fedora Project is the place for them to spend their time as a volunteer. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From stickster at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 17:18:33 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:18:33 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election results December 2009 Message-ID: <20091218171833.GE20625@victoria.internal.frields.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Election Results for FAmSCo - Fedora 13 Cycle Voting Period: 05 December 2009 00:00:00 UTC to 16 December 2009 23:59:59 UTC Nominations: * David Nalley (ke4qqq) * Jean-Francois Saucier (djf_jeff) * Joerg Simon (kital) * Luca Foppiano (lfoppiano) * Maria Gracia Leandro (tatica) * Max Spevack (spevack) * Robert Scheck (rsc) * Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira (RodrigoPadula) * Sandro Mathys (red_alert) * Scott Seiersen (sseiersen) * Shakthi Kannan (mbuf) * Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit) Outcomes: As defined in the election text, the seven (7) candidate(s) with the greatest number of votes will be elected for full 2 release term. Information: At close of voting there were: 130 valid ballots Using the Fedora Range Voting method, each candidate could attain a maximum of 1560 votes (12*130). Results: 1. Joerg Simon (kital) 1167 2. Max Spevack (spevack) 1133 3. Maria Gracia Leandro (tatica) 771 4. David Nalley (ke4qqq) 708 5. Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit) 691 6. Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira (RodrigoPadula) 636 7. Luca Foppiano (lfoppiano) 609 * * * * * 8. Robert Scheck (rsc) 533 9. Jean-Francois Saucier (djf_jeff) 507 10. Sandro Mathys (red_alert) 495 11. Shakthi Kannan (mbuf) 373 12. Scott Seiersen (sseiersen) 328 As such, Joerg Simon, Max Spevack, Maria Gracia Leandro, David Nalley, Susmit Shannigrahi, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira, and Luca Foppiano are elected to FAmSCo for a full 2 release term. - -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFLK7lprNvJN70RNxcRAomTAKCTK4uf5f8F/dALZRHbE2wCBA4kPgCcC68E V2rfSgpzxq9c32Gs9kWc6Xc= =VXxT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 17:36:25 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:06:25 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election results December 2009 In-Reply-To: <20091218171833.GE20625@victoria.internal.frields.org> References: <20091218171833.GE20625@victoria.internal.frields.org> Message-ID: > As defined in the election text, the seven (7) candidate(s) with the > greatest number of votes will be elected for full 2 release term. > > Information: > > At close of voting there were: > 130 valid ballots > > Using the Fedora Range Voting method, each candidate could attain a > maximum of 1560 votes (12*130). > > Results: > > ?1. Joerg Simon (kital) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1167 > ?2. Max Spevack (spevack) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1133 > ?3. Maria Gracia Leandro (tatica) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?771 > ?4. David Nalley (ke4qqq) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?708 > ?5. Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?691 > ?6. Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira (RodrigoPadula) ? 636 > ?7. Luca Foppiano (lfoppiano) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?609 Congratulations to those who has won. tatica and lfoppiano, welcome aboard. kital, spevack, ke4qqq, RodrigoPadula will look forward to work with you again. > * * * * * > ?8. Robert Scheck (rsc) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?533 > ?9. Jean-Francois Saucier (djf_jeff) ? ? ? ? ? ? 507 > 10. Sandro Mathys (red_alert) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?495 > 11. Shakthi Kannan (mbuf) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?373 > 12. Scott Seiersen (sseiersen) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 328 rsc, djf_jeff, red_alert, mbuf, sseiersen thank you for throwing in your hats. I am sure that we will continue to get your constructive and valuable suggestions. Thanks to you all who contested and those who have taken their time to cast their votes. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Dec 18 17:55:06 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:55:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election results December 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <20091218171833.GE20625@victoria.internal.frields.org> Message-ID: On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Congratulations to those who has won. tatica and lfoppiano, welcome > aboard. kital, spevack, ke4qqq, RodrigoPadula will look forward to > work with you again. > > rsc, djf_jeff, red_alert, mbuf, sseiersen thank you for throwing in > your hats. I am sure that we will continue to get your constructive > and valuable suggestions. > > Thanks to you all who contested and those who have taken their time to > cast their votes. I agree -- everyone who participated in the election process -- either by running for famsco or by voting for famsco -- thank you. It's my personal goal to make sure that 2010 is considered the best year for Fedora Ambassadors all over the world. I think we have a lot of good opportunities and work to do, not only in continuing to improve ambassador processes, but also in growing contributors worldwide and in ensuring that we have Fedora Activity Days and/or FUDCons in all regions of the world. --Max From mahayalamkhan at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 18:55:52 2009 From: mahayalamkhan at gmail.com (mak) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 01:55:52 +0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election results December 2009 In-Reply-To: <20091218171833.GE20625@victoria.internal.frields.org> References: <20091218171833.GE20625@victoria.internal.frields.org> Message-ID: On 12/19/09, Paul W. Frields wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [........] > > Results: > > 1. Joerg Simon (kital) 1167 > 2. Max Spevack (spevack) 1133 > 3. Maria Gracia Leandro (tatica) 771 > 4. David Nalley (ke4qqq) 708 > 5. Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit) 691 > 6. Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira (RodrigoPadula) 636 > 7. Luca Foppiano (lfoppiano) 609 Congratulations guys. [...............] -- ----------------------- Mahay Alam Khan gpg key: 4FDD30FB http://twitpic.com/photos/mahayalamkhan From tatica at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 18 19:00:36 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:30:36 -0430 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election results December 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <20091218171833.GE20625@victoria.internal.frields.org> Message-ID: <27a6293b0912181100p3ae213c5p8a822ed52d974ef2@mail.gmail.com> congratulations to all This is a huge responsibility for me and Luca as the "newbies" of the team and I personally hope to fill everyones expectations about my work. I can only promise that I'll keep trying to do my best effort and being cheerful like I always do. Great Christmas Gift. P.D.: and like I said to LATAM friends... we are only the voice to get help and make success bigger. 2009/12/18 Max Spevack > On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > Congratulations to those who has won. tatica and lfoppiano, welcome >> aboard. kital, spevack, ke4qqq, RodrigoPadula will look forward to work with >> you again. >> > > > > >> rsc, djf_jeff, red_alert, mbuf, sseiersen thank you for throwing in your >> hats. I am sure that we will continue to get your constructive and valuable >> suggestions. >> >> Thanks to you all who contested and those who have taken their time to >> cast their votes. >> > > I agree -- everyone who participated in the election process -- either by > running for famsco or by voting for famsco -- thank you. > > It's my personal goal to make sure that 2010 is considered the best year > for Fedora Ambassadors all over the world. I think we have a lot of good > opportunities and work to do, not only in continuing to improve ambassador > processes, but also in growing contributors worldwide and in ensuring that > we have Fedora Activity Days and/or FUDCons in all regions of the world. > > --Max > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From imtiaz.rahi at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 20:41:24 2009 From: imtiaz.rahi at gmail.com (Imtiaz Rahi) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:41:24 +0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election results December 2009 In-Reply-To: <20091218171833.GE20625@victoria.internal.frields.org> References: <20091218171833.GE20625@victoria.internal.frields.org> Message-ID: > > > At close of voting there were: > 130 valid ballots > > Using the Fedora Range Voting method, each candidate could attain a > maximum of 1560 votes (12*130). > > Results: > > 1. Joerg Simon (kital) 1167 > 2. Max Spevack (spevack) 1133 > 3. Maria Gracia Leandro (tatica) 771 > 4. David Nalley (ke4qqq) 708 > 5. Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit) 691 > 6. Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira (RodrigoPadula) 636 > 7. Luca Foppiano (lfoppiano) 609 > * * * * * > 8. Robert Scheck (rsc) 533 > 9. Jean-Francois Saucier (djf_jeff) 507 > 10. Sandro Mathys (red_alert) 495 > 11. Shakthi Kannan (mbuf) 373 > 12. Scott Seiersen (sseiersen) 328 > > As such, Joerg Simon, Max Spevack, Maria Gracia Leandro, David Nalley, > Susmit Shannigrahi, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira, and Luca Foppiano are > elected to FAmSCo for a full 2 release term. > > Congratulations to the people who have been elected and to others for trying and participating in the election. Best wishes to you all. cheers // imtiaz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From magjogui at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 20:47:06 2009 From: magjogui at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?Sm9zw6kgRWRnYXJkbyBMw7NwZXogVsOhc3F1ZXo=?=) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:47:06 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election results December 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <20091218171833.GE20625@victoria.internal.frields.org> Message-ID: <6e1b46940912181247l6d4bdb1el7914ac54876612ca@mail.gmail.com> Congratulations and my best wishes, but more than wishes, support, in all the things that we can do to continue the way. On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > Hi, > > --- On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Paul W. Frields > wrote: > | * David Nalley (ke4qqq) > | * Jean-Francois Saucier (djf_jeff) > | * Joerg Simon (kital) > | * Luca Foppiano (lfoppiano) > | * Maria Gracia Leandro (tatica) > | * Max Spevack (spevack) > | * Robert Scheck (rsc) > | * Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira (RodrigoPadula) > | * Sandro Mathys (red_alert) > | * Scott Seiersen (sseiersen) > | * Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit) > \-- > > Best wishes to all! > > SK > > -- > Shakthi Kannan > http://www.shakthimaan.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Atentamente -- magjogui Jos? Edgardo L?pez V?squez fedora Ambassador [El Salvador] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Magjogui https://www.fedoraproject.org magjogui at fedoraproject.org Consultor en Software libre & GNU/ Linux identica,irc,gtalk,msn,skype: magjogui at gmail.com M. +(503) 76224064 (claro.com.sv) H. +(503) 25171878 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From morpheusv at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 21:11:49 2009 From: morpheusv at gmail.com (Morpheus . .) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:11:49 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election results December 2009 In-Reply-To: <20091218171833.GE20625@victoria.internal.frields.org> References: <20091218171833.GE20625@victoria.internal.frields.org> Message-ID: 1. A lot of congratulations to all. 2. And for all that we are of one or another way involved with Fedora, to continuing working in this 2010. PD: the excuses of the case, if my Englishman is not very good 2009/12/18 Paul W. Frields > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Election Results for FAmSCo - Fedora 13 Cycle > > Voting Period: 05 December 2009 00:00:00 UTC to 16 December 2009 23:59:59 > UTC > > Nominations: > > * David Nalley (ke4qqq) > * Jean-Francois Saucier (djf_jeff) > * Joerg Simon (kital) > * Luca Foppiano (lfoppiano) > * Maria Gracia Leandro (tatica) > * Max Spevack (spevack) > * Robert Scheck (rsc) > * Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira (RodrigoPadula) > * Sandro Mathys (red_alert) > * Scott Seiersen (sseiersen) > * Shakthi Kannan (mbuf) > * Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit) > > Outcomes: > > As defined in the election text, the seven (7) candidate(s) with the > greatest number of votes will be elected for full 2 release term. > > Information: > > At close of voting there were: > 130 valid ballots > > Using the Fedora Range Voting method, each candidate could attain a > maximum of 1560 votes (12*130). > > Results: > > 1. Joerg Simon (kital) 1167 > 2. Max Spevack (spevack) 1133 > 3. Maria Gracia Leandro (tatica) 771 > 4. David Nalley (ke4qqq) 708 > 5. Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit) 691 > 6. Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira (RodrigoPadula) 636 > 7. Luca Foppiano (lfoppiano) 609 > * * * * * > 8. Robert Scheck (rsc) 533 > 9. Jean-Francois Saucier (djf_jeff) 507 > 10. Sandro Mathys (red_alert) 495 > 11. Shakthi Kannan (mbuf) 373 > 12. Scott Seiersen (sseiersen) 328 > > As such, Joerg Simon, Max Spevack, Maria Gracia Leandro, David Nalley, > Susmit Shannigrahi, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira, and Luca Foppiano are > elected to FAmSCo for a full 2 release term. > > > - -- > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFLK7lprNvJN70RNxcRAomTAKCTK4uf5f8F/dALZRHbE2wCBA4kPgCcC68E > V2rfSgpzxq9c32Gs9kWc6Xc= > =VXxT > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- -- Andres Pascasio http://www.pascasio.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Morpheusv -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerold at lugd.org Fri Dec 18 21:38:04 2009 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:38:04 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election results December 2009 In-Reply-To: <20091218171833.GE20625@victoria.internal.frields.org> References: <20091218171833.GE20625@victoria.internal.frields.org> Message-ID: <1261172284.2511.7.camel@localhost> Hi everybody, this voting shows more or less also my personal wishes and I personally want to let you know that you will have (again) my personal full support and also the support from Fedora EMEA e.V. in the period that they are at the wheel. On the other hand, it has been alarming, that we have *only* 130 valid ballots. How many Ambassadors do we have? Think about, be FEDORA, announce and spread the word ... I wish you all Merry Christmas and a happy New Year Friendly yours Geroldka Am Freitag, den 18.12.2009, 12:18 -0500 schrieb Paul W. Frields: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Election Results for FAmSCo - Fedora 13 Cycle > > Voting Period: 05 December 2009 00:00:00 UTC to 16 December 2009 23:59:59 UTC > > Nominations: > > * David Nalley (ke4qqq) > * Jean-Francois Saucier (djf_jeff) > * Joerg Simon (kital) > * Luca Foppiano (lfoppiano) > * Maria Gracia Leandro (tatica) > * Max Spevack (spevack) > * Robert Scheck (rsc) > * Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira (RodrigoPadula) > * Sandro Mathys (red_alert) > * Scott Seiersen (sseiersen) > * Shakthi Kannan (mbuf) > * Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit) > > Outcomes: > > As defined in the election text, the seven (7) candidate(s) with the > greatest number of votes will be elected for full 2 release term. > > Information: > > At close of voting there were: > 130 valid ballots > > Using the Fedora Range Voting method, each candidate could attain a > maximum of 1560 votes (12*130). > > Results: > > 1. Joerg Simon (kital) 1167 > 2. Max Spevack (spevack) 1133 > 3. Maria Gracia Leandro (tatica) 771 > 4. David Nalley (ke4qqq) 708 > 5. Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit) 691 > 6. Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira (RodrigoPadula) 636 > 7. Luca Foppiano (lfoppiano) 609 > * * * * * > 8. Robert Scheck (rsc) 533 > 9. Jean-Francois Saucier (djf_jeff) 507 > 10. Sandro Mathys (red_alert) 495 > 11. Shakthi Kannan (mbuf) 373 > 12. Scott Seiersen (sseiersen) 328 > > As such, Joerg Simon, Max Spevack, Maria Gracia Leandro, David Nalley, > Susmit Shannigrahi, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira, and Luca Foppiano are > elected to FAmSCo for a full 2 release term. > > > - -- > Paul W. 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Frields wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Election Results for FAmSCo - Fedora 13 Cycle > > Voting Period: 05 December 2009 00:00:00 UTC to 16 December 2009 23:59:59 UTC > > Nominations: > > * David Nalley (ke4qqq) > * Jean-Francois Saucier (djf_jeff) > * Joerg Simon (kital) > * Luca Foppiano (lfoppiano) > * Maria Gracia Leandro (tatica) > * Max Spevack (spevack) > * Robert Scheck (rsc) > * Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira (RodrigoPadula) > * Sandro Mathys (red_alert) > * Scott Seiersen (sseiersen) > * Shakthi Kannan (mbuf) > * Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit) > > Outcomes: > > As defined in the election text, the seven (7) candidate(s) with the > greatest number of votes will be elected for full 2 release term. > > Information: > > At close of voting there were: > 130 valid ballots > > Using the Fedora Range Voting method, each candidate could attain a > maximum of 1560 votes (12*130). > > Results: > > 1. Joerg Simon (kital) 1167 > 2. Max Spevack (spevack) 1133 > 3. Maria Gracia Leandro (tatica) 771 > 4. David Nalley (ke4qqq) 708 > 5. Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit) 691 > 6. Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira (RodrigoPadula) 636 > 7. Luca Foppiano (lfoppiano) 609 > * * * * * > 8. Robert Scheck (rsc) 533 > 9. Jean-Francois Saucier (djf_jeff) 507 > 10. Sandro Mathys (red_alert) 495 > 11. Shakthi Kannan (mbuf) 373 > 12. Scott Seiersen (sseiersen) 328 > > As such, Joerg Simon, Max Spevack, Maria Gracia Leandro, David Nalley, > Susmit Shannigrahi, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira, and Luca Foppiano are > elected to FAmSCo for a full 2 release term. > > Thanks and congratulation to all! I'll do my best to accomplish my duty with famsco in order to help ambassador, and at the end Fedora :) Cheers Luca From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Fri Dec 18 23:06:11 2009 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:06:11 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election results December 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <20091218171833.GE20625@victoria.internal.frields.org> Message-ID: <4B2C0AE3.2070209@projetofedora.org> Hello everyone, thank you all for your support. I am a member of FAMSCO since the first election, always working with Fedora in Latin America. Now that we are a tight community, I will focus other regions, supporting the growth of Fedora on other continents! 2010 will be the best year for Fedora!!! I'm looking forward to work with all of you next year! Have a nice weekend!!! Em 18-12-2009 19:11, Morpheus . . escreveu: > 1. A lot of congratulations to all. > 2. And for all that we are of one or another way involved with Fedora, > to continuing working in this 2010. > > PD: the excuses of the case, if my Englishman is not very good > > 2009/12/18 Paul W. Frields > > > Election Results for FAmSCo - Fedora 13 Cycle > > Voting Period: 05 December 2009 00:00:00 UTC to 16 December 2009 > 23:59:59 UTC > > Nominations: > > * David Nalley (ke4qqq) > * Jean-Francois Saucier (djf_jeff) > * Joerg Simon (kital) > * Luca Foppiano (lfoppiano) > * Maria Gracia Leandro (tatica) > * Max Spevack (spevack) > * Robert Scheck (rsc) > * Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira (RodrigoPadula) > * Sandro Mathys (red_alert) > * Scott Seiersen (sseiersen) > * Shakthi Kannan (mbuf) > * Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit) > > Outcomes: > > As defined in the election text, the seven (7) candidate(s) with the > greatest number of votes will be elected for full 2 release term. > > Information: > > At close of voting there were: > 130 valid ballots > > Using the Fedora Range Voting method, each candidate could attain a > maximum of 1560 votes (12*130). > > Results: > > 1. Joerg Simon (kital) 1167 > 2. Max Spevack (spevack) 1133 > 3. Maria Gracia Leandro (tatica) 771 > 4. David Nalley (ke4qqq) 708 > 5. Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit) 691 > 6. Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira (RodrigoPadula) 636 > 7. Luca Foppiano (lfoppiano) 609 > * * * * * > 8. Robert Scheck (rsc) 533 > 9. Jean-Francois Saucier (djf_jeff) 507 > 10. Sandro Mathys (red_alert) 495 > 11. Shakthi Kannan (mbuf) 373 > 12. Scott Seiersen (sseiersen) 328 > > As such, Joerg Simon, Max Spevack, Maria Gracia Leandro, David Nalley, > Susmit Shannigrahi, Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira, and Luca Foppiano are > elected to FAmSCo for a full 2 release term. > > -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- > -- > Andres Pascasio > http://www.pascasio.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Morpheusv > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From david at gnsa.us Sat Dec 19 03:30:06 2009 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:30:06 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election results December 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <20091218171833.GE20625@victoria.internal.frields.org> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > >> Congratulations to those who has won. tatica and lfoppiano, welcome >> aboard. kital, spevack, ke4qqq, RodrigoPadula will look forward to work with >> you again. > > >> >> rsc, djf_jeff, red_alert, mbuf, sseiersen thank you for throwing in your >> hats. I am sure that we will continue to get your constructive and valuable >> suggestions. >> >> Thanks to you all who contested and those who have taken their time to >> cast their votes. > > I agree -- everyone who participated in the election process -- either by > running for famsco or by voting for famsco -- thank you. > > It's my personal goal to make sure that 2010 is considered the best year for > Fedora Ambassadors all over the world. I think we have a lot of good > opportunities and work to do, not only in continuing to improve ambassador > processes, but also in growing contributors worldwide and in ensuring that > we have Fedora Activity Days and/or FUDCons in all regions of the world. > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > I repeatedly am amazed at the elections process within Fedora. Generally there are no bad choices, up for election, and in the end everyone maintains friendship, which is unique in organizations I have observed and been involved in. I greatly appreciate the faith that you have shown in me and hope to live up to that responsibility. Thanks for voting, and to my running mates, thanks for participating. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.10) iEYEARECAAYFAkssSL4ACgkQkZOYj+cNI1dpagCfXV1zLF3seoud4UsceqQFMaBa jFEAoKeazoQK68GZ2y+xLyv3sZPxYUte =ZITq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From irashadul at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 05:45:11 2009 From: irashadul at gmail.com (Rashadul Islam) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 11:45:11 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election results December 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <20091218171833.GE20625@victoria.internal.frields.org> Message-ID: <17fa59580912182145k40b33442td5b2d65c373b4502@mail.gmail.com> Congratulations!! On 12/19/09, David Nalley wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Max Spevack wrote: >> On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, susmit shannigrahi wrote: >> >>> Congratulations to those who has won. tatica and lfoppiano, welcome >>> aboard. kital, spevack, ke4qqq, RodrigoPadula will look forward to work >>> with >>> you again. >> >> >>> >>> rsc, djf_jeff, red_alert, mbuf, sseiersen thank you for throwing in your >>> hats. I am sure that we will continue to get your constructive and >>> valuable >>> suggestions. >>> >>> Thanks to you all who contested and those who have taken their time to >>> cast their votes. >> >> I agree -- everyone who participated in the election process -- either by >> running for famsco or by voting for famsco -- thank you. >> >> It's my personal goal to make sure that 2010 is considered the best year >> for >> Fedora Ambassadors all over the world. I think we have a lot of good >> opportunities and work to do, not only in continuing to improve ambassador >> processes, but also in growing contributors worldwide and in ensuring that >> we have Fedora Activity Days and/or FUDCons in all regions of the world. >> >> --Max >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > I repeatedly am amazed at the elections process within Fedora. > Generally there are no bad choices, up for election, and in the end > everyone maintains friendship, which is unique in organizations I have > observed and been involved in. > > I greatly appreciate the faith that you have shown in me and hope to > live up to that responsibility. Thanks for voting, and to my running > mates, thanks for participating. > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.10) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkssSL4ACgkQkZOYj+cNI1dpagCfXV1zLF3seoud4UsceqQFMaBa > jFEAoKeazoQK68GZ2y+xLyv3sZPxYUte > =ZITq > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Thanking you, Rashadul Islam irashadul at gmail.com rislam at irc.freenode.net GPG KEY: 5557BFAC Fingerprint=CFB7 CAEC 157A 308A F9CE CE00 3620 8084 5557 BFAC url: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RashadulIslam From tuanta at iwayvietnam.com Sat Dec 19 05:50:36 2009 From: tuanta at iwayvietnam.com (Truong Anh. Tuan) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:50:36 +0700 (ICT) Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election results December 2009 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <28377067.1451261201836765.JavaMail.root@z.iwayvietnam.com> ----- "susmit shannigrahi" wrote: > > As defined in the election text, the seven (7) candidate(s) with > the > > greatest number of votes will be elected for full 2 release term. > > > > Information: > > > > At close of voting there were: > > 130 valid ballots > > > > Using the Fedora Range Voting method, each candidate could attain a > > maximum of 1560 votes (12*130). > > > > Results: > > > > ?1. Joerg Simon (kital) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1167 > > ?2. Max Spevack (spevack) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1133 > > ?3. Maria Gracia Leandro (tatica) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?771 > > ?4. David Nalley (ke4qqq) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?708 > > ?5. Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?691 > > ?6. Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira (RodrigoPadula) ? 636 > > ?7. Luca Foppiano (lfoppiano) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?609 > > Congratulations to those who has won. > tatica and lfoppiano, welcome aboard. > kital, spevack, ke4qqq, RodrigoPadula will look forward to work with > you again. > Congratulations! > > > * * * * * > > ?8. Robert Scheck (rsc) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?533 > > ?9. Jean-Francois Saucier (djf_jeff) ? ? ? ? ? ? 507 > > 10. Sandro Mathys (red_alert) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?495 > > 11. Shakthi Kannan (mbuf) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?373 > > 12. Scott Seiersen (sseiersen) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 328 > > rsc, djf_jeff, red_alert, mbuf, sseiersen thank you for throwing in > your hats. > I am sure that we will continue to get your constructive and valuable > suggestions. > > Thanks to you all who contested and those who have taken their time > to cast their votes. > Kind regards, Tuan From hopparz at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 06:27:32 2009 From: hopparz at gmail.com (Zoltan Hoppar) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 07:27:32 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election results December 2009 In-Reply-To: <28377067.1451261201836765.JavaMail.root@z.iwayvietnam.com> References: <28377067.1451261201836765.JavaMail.root@z.iwayvietnam.com> Message-ID: <2f3d0f330912182227n58f71914q384b4ef430a98193@mail.gmail.com> Congrats, and best wishes for the upcoming possibilities. Z 2009/12/19 Truong Anh. Tuan > > ----- "susmit shannigrahi" wrote: > > > > As defined in the election text, the seven (7) candidate(s) with > > the > > > greatest number of votes will be elected for full 2 release term. > > > > > > Information: > > > > > > At close of voting there were: > > > 130 valid ballots > > > > > > Using the Fedora Range Voting method, each candidate could attain a > > > maximum of 1560 votes (12*130). > > > > > > Results: > > > > > > 1. Joerg Simon (kital) 1167 > > > 2. Max Spevack (spevack) 1133 > > > 3. Maria Gracia Leandro (tatica) 771 > > > 4. David Nalley (ke4qqq) 708 > > > 5. Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit) 691 > > > 6. Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira (RodrigoPadula) 636 > > > 7. Luca Foppiano (lfoppiano) 609 > > > > Congratulations to those who has won. > > tatica and lfoppiano, welcome aboard. > > kital, spevack, ke4qqq, RodrigoPadula will look forward to work with > > you again. > > > > Congratulations! > > > > > > * * * * * > > > 8. Robert Scheck (rsc) 533 > > > 9. 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I could spend hours talking about what was done in the past. Today, however, I want to write about the future. >From a personal side, I'll be an Ambassador. I'll organize or join events, working with the other EMEA Ambassadors to spread Fedora in all the European, African and Middle East countries. As former FAmSCo member, if the upcoming FAmSCo accept it, I will be pleased to share my experience. >From a project perspective, my advice to the new FAmSCo is: stay in touch with Ambassadors, focus on simple but effective things and be a point of reference for everyone. When it's needed, fly high. The past experience has demonstrated that great ideas could become a success. Even if we come from a region, keep in mind that being a FAmSCo member means being the representative of all Ambassadors, from the nearest to the furthest one. To all Ambassadors: i can only suggest you to keep doing what you are doing. Stay in touch with people, be as simple as smart when you join or organize events. Remember: you represent Fedora and its community, from packagers to translators. Be yourself and people will like you and, consequently, Fedora. This is my last act as FAmSCo chair. I wanted to be brief, but I hope my words could give what I learned, and what it really matters to me. Tomorrow, as an Ambassador, I promise I'll do my best to keep high the name of Ambassadors. Thanks Joerg, Susmit, Max, David, Thomas and Rodrigo for your great work as FAmSCo members and, surely, for being loyal friends. Thanks to all the former FAmSCo member who served with me in the past, and all the Ambassadors who I have been in touch with, and have supported me. Good luck to the new members, the newbie and the confirmed ones. I?m sure you?ll do an excellent job. Thank you. Today I'm really proud to be a Fedora Ambassador! Francesco Ugolini From ecardinali at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 17:11:59 2009 From: ecardinali at gmail.com (Ezequiel Cardinali) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:11:59 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election results December 2009 In-Reply-To: <2f3d0f330912182227n58f71914q384b4ef430a98193@mail.gmail.com> References: <28377067.1451261201836765.JavaMail.root@z.iwayvietnam.com> <2f3d0f330912182227n58f71914q384b4ef430a98193@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Congrats!!!! -- ======================================= Ezequiel Cardinali --------------------------------------------------------------- FCF068FD ======================================= From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Sun Dec 20 09:39:53 2009 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 10:39:53 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Fedora Meeting Today 1830UTC #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20091220103953.72ee8ea1@mrtomlinux.org> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2009-12-20 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (20 dec.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'h?sitez pas ? le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent int?ressants. Merci de r?pondre ? ce message en cas d'indisponibilit?. Thomas Canniot -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tatica at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 20 13:48:15 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:18:15 +1930 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thank you In-Reply-To: <3d4767520912190344i9f23974s3a7904f7e7e3c8eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <3d4767520912190344i9f23974s3a7904f7e7e3c8eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <27a6293b0912200548m6289252an483b690695dfc500@mail.gmail.com> Thank you for this words Francesco Is for people like you that, we the newbies, are here trying to help. We just want to follow the example of people like you who trully believe that a change can be made just working hard for a right cause and helping people to be better everyday. Merry Christmas and a really happy new year :D 2009/12/20 Francesco Ugolini > Hi fellow Ambassadors, > > It?s time for me to let other people inject new and fresh ideas into > FAmSCo! > > I had the honor to serve as FAmSCo member for the past three years, > two of them as Chair. I worked with marvelous people, ready to give > the right advices at the right time. I had the opportunity to > coordinate the work done by Ambassadors all over the world, and manage > the transition from a centralized model to a regional one. > I have been seeing the project growing fast, from 60 Ambassadors, in > the early 2006, to 700, up to now. I have met great people, whoever > they were Ambassadors or community members. > > We have faced many challenges and, all together, we have been able to > transform them in a success for the whole project. > > I could spend hours talking about what was done in the past. Today, > however, I want to write about the future. > > >From a personal side, I'll be an Ambassador. I'll organize or join > events, working with the other EMEA Ambassadors to spread Fedora in > all the European, African and Middle East countries. > > As former FAmSCo member, if the upcoming FAmSCo accept it, I will be > pleased to share my experience. > > >From a project perspective, my advice to the new FAmSCo is: stay in > touch with Ambassadors, focus on simple but effective things and be a > point of reference for everyone. When it's needed, fly high. The past > experience has demonstrated that great ideas could become a success. > Even if we come from a region, keep in mind that being a FAmSCo member > means being the representative of all Ambassadors, from the nearest to > the furthest one. > > To all Ambassadors: i can only suggest you to keep doing what you are > doing. Stay in touch with people, be as simple as smart when you join > or organize events. Remember: you represent Fedora and its community, > from packagers to translators. Be yourself and people will like you > and, consequently, Fedora. > > This is my last act as FAmSCo chair. I wanted to be brief, but I hope > my words could give what I learned, and what it really matters to me. > > Tomorrow, as an Ambassador, I promise I'll do my best to keep high the > name of Ambassadors. > > Thanks Joerg, Susmit, Max, David, Thomas and Rodrigo for your great > work as FAmSCo members and, surely, for being loyal friends. Thanks to > all the former FAmSCo member who served with me in the past, and all > the Ambassadors who I have been in touch with, and have supported me. > > Good luck to the new members, the newbie and the confirmed ones. I?m > sure you?ll do an excellent job. > > Thank you. > > Today I'm really proud to be a Fedora Ambassador! > > Francesco Ugolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 20 18:51:00 2009 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:51:00 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thank you In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0912200548m6289252an483b690695dfc500@mail.gmail.com> References: <3d4767520912190344i9f23974s3a7904f7e7e3c8eb@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0912200548m6289252an483b690695dfc500@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3d4767520912201051l3cbff274p6cc5bfacfcb090b0@mail.gmail.com> 2009/12/20 Mar?a Leandro : > Thank you for this words Francesco > > Is for people like you that, we the newbies, are here trying to help. We > just want to follow the example of people like you who trully believe that a > change can be made just working hard for a right cause and helping people to > be better everyday. > > Merry Christmas and a really happy new year :D > Thank you! This is really important for me and, sure, it confirms that the choice I've made to not run again for FAmSCo was the best one I could do. I'm sure new members, like you, are an important added value for FAmSCo and sure will help boost Ambassadors growth and evolution. I wish you a good Christmas, and a good work in FAmSCo. Best regards Francesco Ugolini From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Sun Dec 20 23:06:45 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:06:45 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] :) A friendly reminder for the APAC meeting on Sunday, December 27th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC :) In-Reply-To: References: <4A8B7C3C.2040500@aim.com>, , , , , , Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) :) A friendly reminder for the APAC meeting on Sunday, December 27th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC :) ======================================== Day : Sunday, December 27th, 2009 Time : 07:00 UTC See the following URL to check and verify your own timing based on your location - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=12&day=27&hour=07&min=0&sec=0 Channel : #fedora-meeting https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-12-27 For any proposed changes to the draft agenda, then please update - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-12-27#Agenda ======================================== I hope that you may be able to attend. :) Sending positive Fedora 12 energy from my computer to yours. :v) Please have a great day and an enjoyable week! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey --------------------------------- ???? ???????? 10 people 10 colors Different strokes for different folks --------------------------------- = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32.2-14.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = From luca at foppiano.org Mon Dec 21 00:09:57 2009 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:09:57 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thank you In-Reply-To: <3d4767520912190344i9f23974s3a7904f7e7e3c8eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <3d4767520912190344i9f23974s3a7904f7e7e3c8eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B2EBCD5.1010006@foppiano.org> On 12/19/2009 12:44 PM, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > Hi fellow Ambassadors, > > It?s time for me to let other people inject new and fresh ideas into FAmSCo! > > I had the honor to serve as FAmSCo member for the past three years, > two of them as Chair. I worked with marvelous people, ready to give > the right advices at the right time. I had the opportunity to > coordinate the work done by Ambassadors all over the world, and manage > the transition from a centralized model to a regional one. > I have been seeing the project growing fast, from 60 Ambassadors, in > the early 2006, to 700, up to now. I have met great people, whoever > they were Ambassadors or community members. > > We have faced many challenges and, all together, we have been able to > transform them in a success for the whole project. > > I could spend hours talking about what was done in the past. Today, > however, I want to write about the future. > > >From a personal side, I'll be an Ambassador. I'll organize or join > events, working with the other EMEA Ambassadors to spread Fedora in > all the European, African and Middle East countries. > > As former FAmSCo member, if the upcoming FAmSCo accept it, I will be > pleased to share my experience. > > >From a project perspective, my advice to the new FAmSCo is: stay in > touch with Ambassadors, focus on simple but effective things and be a > point of reference for everyone. When it's needed, fly high. The past > experience has demonstrated that great ideas could become a success. > Even if we come from a region, keep in mind that being a FAmSCo member > means being the representative of all Ambassadors, from the nearest to > the furthest one. > > To all Ambassadors: i can only suggest you to keep doing what you are > doing. Stay in touch with people, be as simple as smart when you join > or organize events. Remember: you represent Fedora and its community, > from packagers to translators. Be yourself and people will like you > and, consequently, Fedora. > > This is my last act as FAmSCo chair. I wanted to be brief, but I hope > my words could give what I learned, and what it really matters to me. > > Tomorrow, as an Ambassador, I promise I'll do my best to keep high the > name of Ambassadors. > > Thanks Joerg, Susmit, Max, David, Thomas and Rodrigo for your great > work as FAmSCo members and, surely, for being loyal friends. Thanks to > all the former FAmSCo member who served with me in the past, and all > the Ambassadors who I have been in touch with, and have supported me. > > Good luck to the new members, the newbie and the confirmed ones. I?m > sure you?ll do an excellent job. > > Thank you. > > Today I'm really proud to be a Fedora Ambassador! > I'm happy you return full-time to the ambassadors activities, because I'm sure It'll be an improvement in our community but at the same time I would like to have you here in the FAmSCo. :) Thank you Luca From inode0 at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 03:13:25 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 21:13:25 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Are ambassadors happy with range voting for FAmSCo? Message-ID: I'm not sure about the election history of FAmSCo, maybe someone who has been around a while can explain how it used to work, but I'm guessing range voting has been used in the past two FAmSCo elections. Are ambassadors happy with this method of electing the ambassador leadership? Aside from the voting method, are there other things related to the election or composition of FAmSCo that ambassadors think would improve either the process or the constitution of the steering committee? John From nacross at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 04:09:46 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:09:46 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Are ambassadors happy with range voting for FAmSCo? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:13 PM, inode0 wrote: > I'm not sure about the election history of FAmSCo, maybe someone who > has been around a while can explain how it used to work, but I'm > guessing range voting has been used in the past two FAmSCo elections. > Are ambassadors happy with this method of electing the ambassador > leadership? > > Aside from the voting method, are there other things related to the > election or composition of FAmSCo that ambassadors think would improve > either the process or the constitution of the steering committee? > > John > John, I am not used to range voting, but I have nothing against that method. I do have some suggestion regarding the election process. I was commented about during the election process but I dropped the issue because I felt that I was disrupting the process. I did wanted "to change rules at the middle of the game." Now that elections are over I suggest to amend rules before next run. I suggest that the candidate statements should be closed on the same date of volunteering for the seat. If some one does not want to write a statement is okey to leave it blank. Other suggestion is to stablish an order for the list of candidates. I don't care if it is ordered by time of volunteering or if it is alphabetically. But I find a bit rude that some one added himself at the top, when every body was adding themselves at the bottom. I know that there was not rule for that. Those are just suggestion on my part. Best regards -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 04:28:11 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:58:11 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] :) A friendly reminder for the APAC meeting on Sunday, December 27th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC :) In-Reply-To: References: <4A8B7C3C.2040500@aim.com> Message-ID: 2009/12/21 David Ramsey : > > Hello Everyone, > > Greetings. :) > > :) ?A friendly reminder for the APAC meeting on Sunday, December 27th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC ?:) I don't know if people will be able to attend it during the Christmas. If others are ok with it, I have no problem. I shall be there. Otherwise, it would be better if you can organise it after the new year. Also, please update your name as the APAC meeting lead in the wiki. And thanks for doing it. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From herlo1 at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 04:41:13 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 21:41:13 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Are ambassadors happy with range voting for FAmSCo? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Neville A. Cross wrote: > On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:13 PM, inode0 wrote: >> I'm not sure about the election history of FAmSCo, maybe someone who >> has been around a while can explain how it used to work, but I'm >> guessing range voting has been used in the past two FAmSCo elections. >> Are ambassadors happy with this method of electing the ambassador >> leadership? >> >> Aside from the voting method, are there other things related to the >> election or composition of FAmSCo that ambassadors think would improve >> either the process or the constitution of the steering committee? >> >> John >> > > John, > > I am not used to range voting, but I have nothing against that method. > > I do have some suggestion regarding the election process. I was > commented about during the election process but I dropped the issue > because I felt that I was disrupting the process. I did wanted "to > change rules at the middle of the game." Now that elections are over I > suggest to amend rules before next run. > > I suggest that the candidate statements should be closed on the same > date of volunteering for the seat. If some one does not want to write > a statement is okey to leave it blank. > > Other suggestion is to stablish an order for the list of candidates. I > don't care if it is ordered by time of volunteering or if it is > alphabetically. But I find a bit rude that some one added himself at > the top, when every body was adding themselves at the bottom. I know > that there was not rule for that. > > Those are just suggestion on my part. > > Best regards > > -- > Neville Hey all, I'm a big fan of voting and it's definitely seemed to improve over the past few elections especially with better awareness and such, but I am a bit confused by range voting. It seems to me that range voting is nice, but it somehow makes it hard to decide how to vote. I tend to vote high for those I know and believe are good choices for FAmSCo or other committees, but I'm not sure if I should vote zero for those I know nothing about, or if I should vote some other value. In my opinion, a variant of range voting should limit how many votes are available. For instance, if six (6) candidates were available, I should be able to only use the 1-6 values once, or not at all, but I could use zero (0) as many times as I like. To me, it seems that it would be cool if I could vote for or against (more like digg style voting), but that could cause others heartache. my $.02 Cheers, Clint From hagr182 at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 06:07:58 2009 From: hagr182 at gmail.com (Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:07:58 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo election results December 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <28377067.1451261201836765.JavaMail.root@z.iwayvietnam.com> <2f3d0f330912182227n58f71914q384b4ef430a98193@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1d24cdf80912202207r1e964b24ve02e89ad750b7d@mail.gmail.com> Congrats, hope you keep up the good work for the returning ambassadors, and to tactica and luca, the best of luck! On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Ezequiel Cardinali wrote: > Congrats!!!! > > > -- > ======================================= > Ezequiel Cardinali > --------------------------------------------------------------- > FCF068FD > ======================================= > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 16:58:57 2009 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:58:57 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Are ambassadors happy with range voting for FAmSCo? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7a0d56080912210858k3ccc0e4s8b620907bac725a2@mail.gmail.com> I'm OK with the range voting and. like Clint, getting the hang of it takes a little bit of attention. It's difficult to rank someone that you don't know or don't quite agree with it (although giving them "0" is a little extreme -- unless I completely disagree with him/her and don't want him/her anywhere near an elected body). However, assuming that the candidate prepares a statement and participates in town halls -- something that would add to, moreso than subtract from, their voting "score" in my book -- I think we can get a better feel for who's on the ballot. Neville brings up a good point, though, about the order of nomination: I think nominees should be listed in order of nomination during the nomination period rather than by letting the nominee choose the order. One of the things we should look into, too, is getting voting numbers up. Apparently only 100 or so ballots were cast in FAmSCo. At the risk of sounding like an electoral fundamentalist (or an Australian, where they are required by law to vote), perhaps we should require Ambassadors to vote in at least once every two years, or less (?), to keep their standing. Just a thought. Larry Cafiero On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Clint Savage wrote: > On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Neville A. Cross > wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:13 PM, inode0 wrote: > >> I'm not sure about the election history of FAmSCo, maybe someone who > >> has been around a while can explain how it used to work, but I'm > >> guessing range voting has been used in the past two FAmSCo elections. > >> Are ambassadors happy with this method of electing the ambassador > >> leadership? > >> > >> Aside from the voting method, are there other things related to the > >> election or composition of FAmSCo that ambassadors think would improve > >> either the process or the constitution of the steering committee? > >> > >> John > >> > > > > John, > > > > I am not used to range voting, but I have nothing against that method. > > > > I do have some suggestion regarding the election process. I was > > commented about during the election process but I dropped the issue > > because I felt that I was disrupting the process. I did wanted "to > > change rules at the middle of the game." Now that elections are over I > > suggest to amend rules before next run. > > > > I suggest that the candidate statements should be closed on the same > > date of volunteering for the seat. If some one does not want to write > > a statement is okey to leave it blank. > > > > Other suggestion is to stablish an order for the list of candidates. I > > don't care if it is ordered by time of volunteering or if it is > > alphabetically. But I find a bit rude that some one added himself at > > the top, when every body was adding themselves at the bottom. I know > > that there was not rule for that. > > > > Those are just suggestion on my part. > > > > Best regards > > > > -- > > Neville > > Hey all, > > I'm a big fan of voting and it's definitely seemed to improve over the > past few elections especially with better awareness and such, but I am > a bit confused by range voting. It seems to me that range voting is > nice, but it somehow makes it hard to decide how to vote. I tend to > vote high for those I know and believe are good choices for FAmSCo or > other committees, but I'm not sure if I should vote zero for those I > know nothing about, or if I should vote some other value. > > In my opinion, a variant of range voting should limit how many votes > are available. For instance, if six (6) candidates were available, I > should be able to only use the 1-6 values once, or not at all, but I > could use zero (0) as many times as I like. > > To me, it seems that it would be cool if I could vote for or against > (more like digg style voting), but that could cause others heartache. > > my $.02 > > Cheers, > > Clint > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From casep at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 21 17:44:23 2009 From: casep at fedoraproject.org (Carlos (casep) Sepulveda) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:44:23 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Are ambassadors happy with range voting for FAmSCo? In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080912210858k3ccc0e4s8b620907bac725a2@mail.gmail.com> References: <7a0d56080912210858k3ccc0e4s8b620907bac725a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <85914f200912210944u2bd86fa3pbbe5fcb8b8cc0fe8@mail.gmail.com> 2009/12/21 Larry Cafiero : > Apparently only 100 or so ballots were cast in FAmSCo. At the risk of > sounding like an electoral fundamentalist (or an Australian, where they are > required by law to vote), perhaps we should require Ambassadors to vote in > at least once every two years, or less (?), to keep their standing. Just a > thought. Less than 18%! So, if everyone here is a volunteer, there's plenty of time for voting (?), voting is so easy... Why we've less than 18% of voteS? (130/729) In fact, for the FESCo election there was 216, almost the double! Maybe everyone is good enough for the committee, so there is no need to vote... -- "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Percy Bysshe Shelley http://sites.google.com/site/carlossepulveda From inode0 at gmail.com Mon Dec 21 18:12:22 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:12:22 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Are ambassadors happy with range voting for FAmSCo? In-Reply-To: <85914f200912210944u2bd86fa3pbbe5fcb8b8cc0fe8@mail.gmail.com> References: <7a0d56080912210858k3ccc0e4s8b620907bac725a2@mail.gmail.com> <85914f200912210944u2bd86fa3pbbe5fcb8b8cc0fe8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Carlos (casep) Sepulveda wrote: > 2009/12/21 Larry Cafiero : >> Apparently only 100 or so ballots were cast in FAmSCo. At the risk of >> sounding like an electoral fundamentalist (or an Australian, where they are >> required by law to vote), perhaps we should require Ambassadors to vote in >> at least once every two years, or less (?), to keep their standing. Just a >> thought. > > Less than 18%! > So, if everyone here is a volunteer, there's plenty of time for voting > (?), voting is so easy... > Why we've less than 18% of voteS? (130/729) > In fact, for the FESCo election there was 216, almost the double! > Maybe everyone is good enough for the committee, so there is no need to vote... We aren't comparing apples to apples there and the fact is that the voter participation in the FAmSCo election is far higher than in any other Fedora election now. Since FESCo allows anyone in FAS plus one additional group to vote its pool of voters dwarfs the ambassador pool. I'm sure some people think all the candidates would do a fine job and didn't participate for that reason, although casting a vote of confidence in that case would be nice (give each candidate the maximum votes allowed). Others don't care about governance for whatever reason (just don't care, feel disengaged and/or unaffected by it, don't understand what FAmSCo does and why it matters, etc.). Others fall into a group of potential voters who don't feel personally well equipped to vote, they don't feel they know the candidates or the role of FAmSCo well enough to vote in a responsible way. I felt myself to be in this last class not long ago. I'm keen on increasing voter participation in a limited way. If we can do things to make voters who are uncomfortable now confident they can vote in a responsible way I'm all for that. If we can do things to engage those who don't care now for a variety of reasons I'm all for making them care. All in all, I don't really think the turn out this election for FAmSCo was all that bad. I'll add that we might think some about encouraging more participation in the candidate pool too. Only having a handful of non-committee members willing to sit on FAmSCo bothers me more than a 17% or 18% voter turn out. John From thon at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 21 19:06:30 2009 From: thon at fedoraproject.org (Rob Freudenberg) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:06:30 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Are ambassadors happy with range voting for FAmSCo? In-Reply-To: References: <7a0d56080912210858k3ccc0e4s8b620907bac725a2@mail.gmail.com> <85914f200912210944u2bd86fa3pbbe5fcb8b8cc0fe8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <973988910912211106n54f48c7tfaacb2de9cd60769@mail.gmail.com> This may seem academic, however, would it be possible to do a two column body for the voting page next year so that one can read the candidates blurb while voting? I realize we can open up an extra tab/window, but this would be nice for a newbie (such as myself) who's trying to make a reasonable, albeit brief, judgement. thanks, On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:12 PM, inode0 wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Carlos (casep) Sepulveda > wrote: >> 2009/12/21 Larry Cafiero : >>> Apparently only 100 or so ballots were cast in FAmSCo. At the risk of >>> sounding like an electoral fundamentalist (or an Australian, where they are >>> required by law to vote), perhaps we should require Ambassadors to vote in >>> at least once every two years, or less (?), to keep their standing. Just a >>> thought. >> >> Less than 18%! >> So, if everyone here is a volunteer, there's plenty of time for voting >> (?), voting is so easy... >> Why we've less than 18% of voteS? (130/729) >> In fact, for the FESCo election there was 216, almost the double! >> Maybe everyone is good enough for the committee, so there is no need to vote... > > We aren't comparing apples to apples there and the fact is that the > voter participation in the FAmSCo election is far higher than in any > other Fedora election now. Since FESCo allows anyone in FAS plus one > additional group to vote its pool of voters dwarfs the ambassador > pool. > > I'm sure some people think all the candidates would do a fine job and > didn't participate for that reason, although casting a vote of > confidence in that case would be nice (give each candidate the maximum > votes allowed). Others don't care about governance for whatever reason > (just don't care, feel disengaged and/or unaffected by it, don't > understand what FAmSCo does and why it matters, etc.). Others fall > into a group of potential voters who don't feel personally well > equipped to vote, they don't feel they know the candidates or the role > of FAmSCo well enough to vote in a responsible way. I felt myself to > be in this last class not long ago. > > I'm keen on increasing voter participation in a limited way. If we can > do things to make voters who are uncomfortable now confident they can > vote in a responsible way I'm all for that. If we can do things to > engage those who don't care now for a variety of reasons I'm all for > making them care. > > All in all, I don't really think the turn out this election for FAmSCo > was all that bad. > > I'll add that we might think some about encouraging more participation > in the candidate pool too. Only having a handful of non-committee > members willing to sit on FAmSCo bothers me more than a 17% or 18% > voter turn out. > > John > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From duffy at fedoraproject.org Mon Dec 21 19:08:28 2009 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn?= Duffy) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:08:28 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Are ambassadors happy with range voting for FAmSCo? In-Reply-To: <973988910912211106n54f48c7tfaacb2de9cd60769@mail.gmail.com> References: <7a0d56080912210858k3ccc0e4s8b620907bac725a2@mail.gmail.com> <85914f200912210944u2bd86fa3pbbe5fcb8b8cc0fe8@mail.gmail.com> <973988910912211106n54f48c7tfaacb2de9cd60769@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1261422508.2454.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 14:06 -0500, Rob Freudenberg wrote: > This may seem academic, however, would it be possible to do a two > column body for the voting page next year so that one can read the > candidates blurb while voting? I realize we can open up an extra > tab/window, but this would be nice for a newbie (such as myself) who's > trying to make a reasonable, albeit brief, judgement. That is a *fantastic* idea. I think Toshio maintains the voting app? ~m From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Tue Dec 22 04:13:16 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:13:16 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] :) A friendly reminder for the APAC meeting on Sunday, December 27th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC :) In-Reply-To: References: <4A8B7C3C.2040500@aim.com>, , , , Message-ID: ---------------------------------------- > Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:58:11 +0530 > From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] :) A friendly reminder for the APAC meeting on Sunday, December 27th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC :) > > 2009/12/21 David Ramsey : >> :) A friendly reminder for the APAC meeting on Sunday, December 27th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC :) Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) > I don't know if people will be able to attend it during the Christmas. > If others are ok with it, I have no problem. I shall be there. > Otherwise, it would be better if you can organise it after the new year. Very true, we will see how participation goes for Sunday, December 27th as well as proceed with scheduling to begin in 2010 starting on Sunday, January 10th meeting, too. :) > Also, please update your name as the APAC meeting lead in the wiki. > And thanks for doing it. Understood and this has been done. :) > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit > ============================================= > Sent from Calcutta, WB, India Please have a great day! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32.2-14.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Tue Dec 22 04:25:57 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:25:57 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thinking about future Red Hat training and/or certification. :) In-Reply-To: <6c56c38a0912160621x4b4e82ber47272f835c444b7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c56c38a0912160621x4b4e82ber47272f835c444b7f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) Thinking about future Red Hat training and/or certification. :) ================================================================== I just received the semi-annual Red Hat Training and Certification Course Catalog: Winter / Spring 2010. Looks like we might know someone from this cover. :) https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/bd/Scan0023_fedora_post.JPG I have read that for the last couple years, a Fedora Ambassador or two have become Red Hat RHCE winners. :) For example, http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2009/rhce-2009.html Hope to see 2010 RHCE list! :) ================================================================== Red Hat training may be a great thing to consider if there is time and funds. :) If you have questions about Red Hat classes, then please do not hesitate to ask. :v) Please have a great day or evening! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32.2-14.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = From luca at foppiano.org Tue Dec 22 07:26:14 2009 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:26:14 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Are ambassadors happy with range voting for FAmSCo? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B307496.50609@foppiano.org> > > On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:13 PM, inode0 wrote: > > John, > > I am not used to range voting, but I have nothing against that method. > > I do have some suggestion regarding the election process. I was > commented about during the election process but I dropped the issue > because I felt that I was disrupting the process. I did wanted "to > change rules at the middle of the game." Now that elections are over I > suggest to amend rules before next run. > > I suggest that the candidate statements should be closed on the same > date of volunteering for the seat. If some one does not want to write > a statement is okey to leave it blank. > > Other suggestion is to stablish an order for the list of candidates. I > don't care if it is ordered by time of volunteering or if it is > alphabetically. But I find a bit rude that some one added himself at > the top, when every body was adding themselves at the bottom. I know > that there was not rule for that. > I think they changed the order with alphabetical after you pointed out last time. Alphabetical might a nice and simple solution. IMHO I don't have any problem with range voting, I think is a bit better than 0/1 voting because if you don't know the candidate you can give him a vote based on what you read. With the range voting you have more choice based on your feeling. For the low participation I would like to hear the voice of someone who didn't vote (don't be shy, please), my opinion is lazyness. Cheers Luca From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Tue Dec 22 09:30:26 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:30:26 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Message-ID: <200912221030.30067.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear Ambassadors, let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Giannisk from Greece mentored by Robert Scheck https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:N4is3n from Indonesia mentored by Yuan Yijun Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From dca at projectcellular.com Tue Dec 22 12:55:36 2009 From: dca at projectcellular.com (David Anderson) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:55:36 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thinking about future Red Hat training and/orcertification. :) Message-ID: <9994684.1497971261486535958.JavaMail.servlet@perfora> > >Hello Everyone, > >Greetings. :) > >Thinking about future Red Hat training and/or certification. :) > >================================================================== > >I just received the semi-annual Red Hat Training and Certification Course >Catalog: Winter / Spring 2010. Looks like we might know someone from this >cover. :) > >https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/bd/Scan0023_fedora_post.JPG > >I have read that for the last couple years, a Fedora Ambassador or two have >become Red Hat RHCE winners. :) > >For example, > >http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2009/rhce-2009.html > >Hope to see 2010 RHCE list! :) > Indeed, I would love the opportunity to take advantage of this, I mean it is pricey especially with this economy but well worth it. Kids, look at it this way, the salary expected for a Linux admin in the US is much greater than what the going rate is for MCSE certification... >================================================================== > >Red Hat training may be a great thing to consider if there is time and funds. >:) > >If you have questions about Red Hat classes, then please do not hesitate to >ask. :v) > >Please have a great day or evening! :~) > > >Thank You >Sincerely >=-=-=-=-= >- David - >=-=-=-=-= >David Ramsey >= >Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org >http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey >* Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) >kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686.PAE >* One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - >2.6.32.2-14.fc13.i686.PAE >With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate >7200.12 500 GB harddisks. >= > >-- >Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From maxamillion at gmail.com Tue Dec 22 14:55:21 2009 From: maxamillion at gmail.com (Adam Miller) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:55:21 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Are ambassadors happy with range voting for FAmSCo? In-Reply-To: <4B307496.50609@foppiano.org> References: <4B307496.50609@foppiano.org> Message-ID: yes, I am satisfied with the range voting. -Adam -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com --------------------------------------------------------- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Tue Dec 22 14:56:31 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:26:31 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Heads up students. Time for Fedora Scholarship. Message-ID: Pretty well described. http://blog.melchua.com/2009/12/22/going-to-college-next-year-time-to-apply-for-the-fedora-scholarship/ -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From crossbytes at fedoraproject.org Tue Dec 22 19:43:56 2009 From: crossbytes at fedoraproject.org (Kevin Higgins) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:43:56 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] OSCON Call for Proposals Now Open Message-ID: OSCON, the O'Reilly Open Source Convention July 19 - 23, 2010 Oregon Convention Center Portland, OR http://post.oreilly.com/rd/9z1z6vqe2gib3muftdm7gevnvjou1imluto4nphda30 Faster, Freer, Smarter: Whatever your Goal, Make It Happen with Open Source More than 2,500 experts, developers, sys admins, and hackers will meet up at OSCON 2010 to explore the tools, services, and platforms that make up the vibrant open source ecosystem. Join us! 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Submit your proposal by February 1, 2010 at: http://post.oreilly.com/rd/9z1zgho9r8tiallvan68v10o80nvpncccvrj47vp6j0 From k at kaio.me Wed Dec 23 00:14:57 2009 From: k at kaio.me (Caius 'kaio' Chance) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:14:57 +1000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thinking about future Red Hat training and/or certification. :) In-Reply-To: References: <6c56c38a0912160621x4b4e82ber47272f835c444b7f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B316101.8060301@kaio.me> (2009?12?22? 14:25), David Ramsey wrote: > Thinking about future Red Hat training and/or certification. :) > > ================================================================== > > Red Hat training may be a great thing to consider if there is time and funds. :) > I am very poor. Fortunately company paid for my RHCE fee and yes I am a RHCE. :) RHCE exam helped me to have a much deeper understanding on mechanisms of Linux/RHEL/Fedora/CentOS blah blah. kaio -- Caius 'kaio' Chance / ??? Fedora Project Contributor http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:kaio kaio at fedoraproject.org, kaio on irc.freenode.net, GPG: 17BEFCFA From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Dec 23 02:29:08 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:29:08 +0800 (HKT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Are ambassadors happy with range voting for FAmSCo? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 20 Dec 2009, inode0 wrote: > I'm not sure about the election history of FAmSCo, maybe someone who > has been around a while can explain how it used to work, but I'm > guessing range voting has been used in the past two FAmSCo elections. > Are ambassadors happy with this method of electing the ambassador > leadership? > > Aside from the voting method, are there other things related to the > election or composition of FAmSCo that ambassadors think would improve > either the process or the constitution of the steering committee? I have no strong opinion about the manner in which the election is conducted, and looking over the rules, which are now a few years old, is a fair thing to do. I'm a bit hesitant to ask FAMSCO itself to modify the rules by which it is elected. I wonder, John, if you'd be interested in putting together a new proposal that could in some way (to be figured out) be discussed and then potentially adopted. Something like this, while worth looking at every now and then, also seems like the perfect trap for everyone to spend all their time debating the election rules rather than a similar amount of effort actually making progress on things that aren't sort of meta-project. I think that having a small group of people who are passionate do some thinking, and make some recommendations is the best way to go. It would make me very sad indeed if one of the biggest topics in Ambassadors over the next little while is the manner by which FAMSCO is elected, because it would suggest to me that we're spending too much time on meta-project stuff and not enough on actual progress. Have I managed to straddle the fence appropriately? :) --Max From inode0 at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 07:22:28 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:22:28 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Are ambassadors happy with range voting for FAmSCo? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Sun, 20 Dec 2009, inode0 wrote: > >> I'm not sure about the election history of FAmSCo, maybe someone who has >> been around a while can explain how it used to work, but I'm guessing range >> voting has been used in the past two FAmSCo elections. Are ambassadors happy >> with this method of electing the ambassador leadership? >> >> Aside from the voting method, are there other things related to the >> election or composition of FAmSCo that ambassadors think would improve >> either the process or the constitution of the steering committee? > > I have no strong opinion about the manner in which the election is > conducted, and looking over the rules, which are now a few years old, is a > fair thing to do. > > I'm a bit hesitant to ask FAMSCO itself to modify the rules by which it is > elected. ?I wonder, John, if you'd be interested in putting together a new > proposal that could in some way (to be figured out) be discussed and then > potentially adopted. Well, I can understand that for major changes but I see no reason to consider making any major changes at this time. I really just wanted to know if ambassadors were generally satisfied and at this point I think they are. I did not expect a lot of feedback, but working to incrementally improve our election process I think is worthwhile. >From earlier discussions with Francesco I think the FAmSCo election rules as defined on the wiki just need some small adjustments to be in harmony with the way all the Fedora elections are now organized in terms of the timing of things. Perhaps we can address some of the more cosmetic suggestions made in this thread as well. These are all very minor things. I can write up a new proposed wiki page but I think making these changes is something FAmSCo can approve or not for future elections without any big fuss. John From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 09:22:40 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:22:40 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine, " Fedora 12 Talking Points. :) In-Reply-To: References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <50baabb30912230122v76db5a95k9f019a661cd3e21e@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:31 AM, David Ramsey < > wrote: > There is some entry for Fedora Electronic Lab, eh? ?I do not understand this for my presentation. > ======================================================= > > I am very confused about what Fedora Electronic Lab has to do with the Fedora 12 Talking Points. ?I did not see anything about this in Fedora 12 Features. ?Does someone have any idea about this? > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Talking_Points#Fedora_Electronic_Lab > .... > Get to know FEL-12's talking points in 3 minutes. .... Hello there, Actually, in this FEL paragraph, there was a link to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraElectronicLab/TalkingPoints It will give you quick information what is fedora electronic lab: * release notes * flyer. There is everything you need to introduce FEL's in one or two slides in your presentation. The reason why its features were not among F-12 feature list is that all the tools have undergone improvements for interoperability and electronic design specific features. These features are too technical (mathematical formulas..., power estimation, physical library characterisation,..) and meaningless for someone who does not know microelectronics. Hence we have the 26 pages release notes http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/papers/FEL12ReleaseNotes.pdf That said it is impossible to strip it down to one-page as we provide numerous design flows rather than point software. If you have any other question about FEL, we have a mailing list. Please feel free to ask us questions. We will be happy to answer them. We have some presentations on http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel/#publications website: http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel/ cheers, Chitlesh From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 10:06:56 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:06:56 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine, " Fedora 12 Talking Points. :) In-Reply-To: <20091215134937.GF10169@victoria.internal.frields.org> References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> <20091215134937.GF10169@victoria.internal.frields.org> Message-ID: <50baabb30912230206w3c8cbe34j88a91838458adda3@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Paul W. Frields <> wrote: > However, it probably should be featured somewhere other than the > general release talking points. Hello Paul, I would like to hear the reasoning behind the removal of the FEL's paragraph on https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Fedora_12_Talking_Points&diff=141842&oldid=134124 As I understand the "administration" section should not be considered as "general" information. The wikipage Fedora_12_Talking_Points was to briefly introduce anyone with information about the major work done by fedora contributors. That paragraph about FEL was meant to direct those who are interested in our FEL 12 work to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraElectronicLab/TalkingPoints. Thus keeping the wiki page Fedora_12_Talking_Points simple and straight forward. > That's one of the reasons we set up the new Spins sites: > > http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ > http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel/ Those spin sites contain various information about the spin team and spin product. In this case, the talking points were targeting F-12 release only. Thereby I believe it was wrong to strip down that FEL's paragraph. That said, I feel you are not aware what we are doing behind Fedora Electronic Lab and where we are struggling. Let me quickly write it down. Everyone in the opensource community wants to be able to say to his/her (doctor, architects, mechanical engineers,..) friends : "Hai you can have an out-of-box opensource platform that meet your _daily professional_ expectations". Unfortunately that day hasn't yet come. But we can say there is one platform for microelectronics, this is FEL. We care about making **opensource EDA software** useful for the _real life_. Unlike software engineering, there are a lot of IEEE standards to follow, if not even the software is opensource it would be useless. Some of those IEEE standards need to be bought by upstream, then implement then give enhanced tools to the users as opensource. This requires people having both "software" and "hardware" knowledge. Unfortunately the opensource community is missing these people. But those we have are very knowledgeable and their work are prestigious to the whole opensource EDA community. What should matter for you as a RH employee is that FEL is an example for you to show how the "Fedora's 4Fs" is being used effieciently in real life. * Friends : We have contributors such as Joerg Simon who always finds and redirectly potential contributors. Ricky and himanshu, and others help in terms of infrastructure and websites. FredericHornain and GeroldKassube always strive to get FEL a presentation slot. * Features : Well unable to count and they target digital design, analog design, embedded design, mixed-mode signal design, schematic/layout/pcb design..., enhanced compliance with IEEE standards,... * First : First, to step in for bridging opensource software and opensource hardware communities. First, to give value to EDA upstream developers and bring upstream closer to users. First, to approach commercial companies to find a tradeoff for interoperability, still working on that. * freedom : same values of that of fedora That said there is a difference between FEL : the spin and the team. The FEL LiveDVD spin is simply a "yum groupinstall 'Electronic-Lab', nothing more. The FEL team are people who strive to "get the shit done" as Max would say. We need more contributors. Thereby we would like to get maximum exposure. Even Fedora contributors don't know much about FEL. Please do spend a few minutes to read: http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel/ What makes the FEL spin so special is that it is not _a desktop spin_ like other spins. There is more than 100 packages under the FEL umbrella, which means we need more people for testing and as a testsuite. This requires time and people. Thus FEL needs more exposure. We are building a testsuite here. Hopefully we might have time to automate that process http://git.fedoraproject.org/git/?p=fedora-electronic-lab.git We also support the EPEL-5 branch. I hope that now you undo your edit. Thank you, Chitlesh Goorah From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Wed Dec 23 12:10:43 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (Joerg Simon) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:10:43 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine, " Fedora 12 Talking Points. :) In-Reply-To: <50baabb30912230206w3c8cbe34j88a91838458adda3@mail.gmail.com> References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> <20091215134937.GF10169@victoria.internal.frields.org> <50baabb30912230206w3c8cbe34j88a91838458adda3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200912231310.46019.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> On Wednesday 23 December 2009 11:06:56 Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > I would like to hear the reasoning behind the removal of the FEL's > paragraph on > https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Fedora_12_Talking_Points&diff= > 141842&oldid=134124 me too -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The F12 talking points are to briefly introduce the major work done by Fedora contributors *for the F12 Desktop Spin release.* That means that talking points for other Spins should go elsewhere - the question is where. Chitlesh pointed out (rightfully so!) that there wasn't a place for release-specific items for each Spin. >> http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ >> http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel/ > Those spin sites contain various information about the spin team and > spin product. In this case, the talking points were targeting F-12 > release only. That means we should create one! I'm trying to restructure the Marketing wiki pages to carve out space for this - in particular, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Release_deliverables You'll notice that the page is still extremely messy, I'm still in the middle of it but wanted to (I'm about to take a break to hunt for bike tools, but I'll be back on this later tonight.) The idea is that each deliverable type (sample deliverable types are "talking points," "feature profiles," "screenshot library") will have a few things: * a SOP on how to make that type of deliverable (what Marketing will follow in order to make our Desktop Spin deliverable, but usable by other groups who want to make it for their Spin as well) * the Marketing (Desktop Spin) deliverable for that release ...so far, that's what we have. But then I'd like to add... * a place for other deliverables of that type for things that *aren't* the Desktop Spin, for each release. So in this example, we would have * Talking Points SOP (How to make talking points for any Spin/project) * F13 Talking Points (Desktop Spin, made by the Marketing team) * Other F13 Talking Points (non-Desktop-Spin, made by other groups - who can, by the way, ask the Marketing team for help) ** FEL F13 Talking Points ** KDE F13 Talking Points ** Design Studio F13 Talking Points ** Cool Things The Infrastructure Team Has Done During The F13 Cycle Talking Points ** LATAM Community F13 Talking Points ...and so on - notice that talking points can be made for things that aren't Spins, too. Would that work out? --Mel From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Wed Dec 23 23:18:59 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:18:59 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine, " Fedora 12 Talking Points. :) In-Reply-To: <4B328B80.70809@redhat.com> References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> <20091215134937.GF10169@victoria.internal.frields.org> <50baabb30912230206w3c8cbe34j88a91838458adda3@mail.gmail.com> <4B328B80.70809@redhat.com> Message-ID: <50baabb30912231518k27e37177p65d8a23d7f93bd26@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:28 PM, Mel Chua wrote: > Almost - there's a subtle but important difference I think we (Marketing) > may have been unclear about when making and talking about our talking > points, and for that I apologize. Hello Mel, You don't need to apologize as a "person" since this is the responsibility of almost anyone actively contributing (community and redhat). > The F12 talking points are to briefly introduce the major work done by > Fedora contributors *for the F12 Desktop Spin release.* That means that > talking points for other Spins should go elsewhere - the question is where. If it is *for the F12 Desktop Spin release.* as you say : please _remove_ contents ---- # 2 For administrators * 2.1 libguestfs * 2.2 Virtualization improvements # 3 For developers * 3.1 SystemTap Eclipse integration and tracing improvements * 3.2 NetBeans 6.7.1 ---- from the wiki page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Talking_Points . In accordance to you, they should be irrelevant for the desktop spin, hence perfectly natural for their instant removal. This is not the Fedora Desktop 12 spin but might be for RHEL 6, I don't know. We should stress on Fedora Project here. > Chitlesh pointed out (rightfully so!) that there wasn't a place for > release-specific items for each Spin. I didn't specify "spin specific", but stressed on "contribution-specific". > That means we should create one! I'm trying to restructure the Marketing > wiki pages to carve out space for this - in particular, see: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Release_deliverables > > You'll notice that the page is still extremely messy, Actually, I would say focus on what matters and what is being claimed. We(fedora) claim that https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Talking_Points is the talking points about F-12. We know Fedora (unlike RHEL) doesn't have a specific targeted userbase. That above wiki page was suppose to give : * _fedora_ contributors * _fedora_ users * _non-fedora_ users a brief introduction what Fedora is providing for release N and what they can expect. Thereby, it is fully acceptable to have one small paragraph that points to the workdone during the development cycle of F-N, by any SIG. Please don't create other secondary pages for the same purpose, which are meant for spins/SIG. ^^ This would be considered by uninformed press as an example where RedHat is advertising its products first before community's contributions. We(fedora) don't want bad publicity, don't we ? People in the past has worked hard to convince public that Fedora is not a beta of RHEL. I thank RahulSundaram for taking the initiative at that time. (That said, in the past during Max Spevack's reign, the Fedora Marketing was contacting News websites that reflects Fedora as "Red Hat's Fedora" to recommend them to opt for "Fedora Project" instead. This should be continued. ) Coming back to the Talking Points wiki page, what should be focussed on are "Fedora release N specific details". Unlike any of other distributions, I think Fedora contributors are intelligent and mature (another reason why I contribute to Fedora, if not I would not spend my time for nothing) , so they should be able to summarize their main contributions for Fedora N release into two/three lines and giving a link to a detailed page. RexDieter, Sebastian & Kevin(kde spin), Sebastian(of education spin), Christopher(of LXDE spin), JoergSimon (of Security Spin) are all wise men and if time permits they would be able to summarise their contribution into 2/3 lines (perfect of a centralized wiki page for F-N talking points). (Surprisingly, a lot of european contributors concentrate on spins.) This is Fedora, an intelligent community, which strives to give an example for others to follow in terms of opensource movement. Hence it is assumed that Fedora users would be glad to hear and able to point to anyone a single location of what Fedora Project has done for them, for their children, their spouse, their friends and their colleagues. This would initiate person-to-person marketing strategy, the ground idea of the Fedora Ambassador Project. The basic definition of the existence of the wiki page : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Talking_Points Kind regards, Chitlesh Goorah From aeperezt at hotmail.com Wed Dec 23 23:28:19 2009 From: aeperezt at hotmail.com (Alejandro Perez) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:28:19 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Happy Holidays Message-ID: Happy holydays from fedora panama Here is a background image from Panama for this seasson by Isaias Diaz Fedora Panama Member. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_whsnIzyf9SQ/SzKmH-OrXvI/AAAAAAAAAM0/DNCA7O5m6EI/s320/screm.jpg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Community includes Red Hat folks one would hope. >> The F12 talking points are to briefly introduce the major work done by >> Fedora contributors *for the F12 Desktop Spin release.* That means that >> talking points for other Spins should go elsewhere - the question is where. > > If it is *for the F12 Desktop Spin release.* as you say : please > _remove_ contents I agree there is some confusion over what the intended audience for talking points is but this request seems unnecessarily aggresive. > ^^ This would be considered by uninformed press as an example where > RedHat is advertising its products first before community's > contributions. We(fedora) don't want bad publicity, don't we ? People > in the past has worked hard to convince public that Fedora is not a > beta of RHEL. I thank RahulSundaram for taking the initiative at that > time. Since much of the features mentioned in talking points are not included in a Red Hat product and some of like NetBeans for example, are not going to be, I don't see the connection whatsoever. The talking points are derived from the feature list, plain and simple. Rahul From hopparz at gmail.com Thu Dec 24 00:07:44 2009 From: hopparz at gmail.com (Zoltan Hoppar) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 01:07:44 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Happy Holidays In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2f3d0f330912231607p67ea398hcba22b6af9782b14@mail.gmail.com> Happy holidays to all Ambassadors, and Fedorians from Hungary! 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URL: From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Thu Dec 24 00:16:23 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 01:16:23 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine, " Fedora 12 Talking Points. :) In-Reply-To: <4B32ABA2.7030602@redhat.com> References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> <20091215134937.GF10169@victoria.internal.frields.org> <50baabb30912230206w3c8cbe34j88a91838458adda3@mail.gmail.com> <4B328B80.70809@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231518k27e37177p65d8a23d7f93bd26@mail.gmail.com> <4B32ABA2.7030602@redhat.com> Message-ID: <50baabb30912231616j73a6c72ei4bf07c9b435caddf@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Community includes Red Hat folks one would hope. Well that's debatable. But irrelevant to this thread, let's skip it. >> If it is *for the F12 Desktop Spin release.* as you say : please >> _remove_ contents > > I agree there is some confusion over what the intended audience for > talking points is but this request seems unnecessarily aggresive. Ah no, I'm not aggressive. I just want to stress that if my contents about FEL 12 were removed with an unjustified reason, all non-relevant contents should bear the same consequence. As it's unfair for the unpaid amount of time spent for nothing. >The talking points > are derived from the feature list, plain and simple. So why do we need a "Talking Points" wiki page if it would be an enhanced copy of the feature list ? Ideally improving the feature list would be enough in terms of long term wiki page maintenance. Currently the feature list is technical as it is expected and the Talking points is user-convincing contents as required. The current situation is _not_ to complicate this expected situation, but simply improve the contents on the Talking points wiki page. Chitlesh From sundaram at redhat.com Thu Dec 24 00:27:12 2009 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 05:57:12 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine, " Fedora 12 Talking Points. :) In-Reply-To: <50baabb30912231616j73a6c72ei4bf07c9b435caddf@mail.gmail.com> References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> <20091215134937.GF10169@victoria.internal.frields.org> <50baabb30912230206w3c8cbe34j88a91838458adda3@mail.gmail.com> <4B328B80.70809@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231518k27e37177p65d8a23d7f93bd26@mail.gmail.com> <4B32ABA2.7030602@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231616j73a6c72ei4bf07c9b435caddf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B32B560.80109@redhat.com> On 12/24/2009 05:46 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Community includes Red Hat folks one would hope. > > Well that's debatable. But irrelevant to this thread, let's skip it. I would like to hear more about the debate on that. I think its quite relevant. If not in this thread, feel free to create a new thread on it. > Ah no, I'm not aggressive. I just want to stress that if my contents > about FEL 12 were removed with an unjustified reason, all non-relevant > contents should bear the same consequence. As it's unfair for the > unpaid amount of time spent for nothing. FEL is a useful spin but it is very much a niche audience. Would you say its unfair to promote only one spin? I understand your point but IMO, you should use your spin page to promote the spin. That's really the best place for spin specific content. >> The talking points >> are derived from the feature list, plain and simple. > > So why do we need a "Talking Points" wiki page if it would be an > enhanced copy of the feature list ? Feature list pages are useful for coordination of the development itself. Talking points is more end user focussed. That's a important difference. Rahul From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Thu Dec 24 00:38:35 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 01:38:35 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine, " Fedora 12 Talking Points. :) In-Reply-To: <4B32B560.80109@redhat.com> References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> <20091215134937.GF10169@victoria.internal.frields.org> <50baabb30912230206w3c8cbe34j88a91838458adda3@mail.gmail.com> <4B328B80.70809@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231518k27e37177p65d8a23d7f93bd26@mail.gmail.com> <4B32ABA2.7030602@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231616j73a6c72ei4bf07c9b435caddf@mail.gmail.com> <4B32B560.80109@redhat.com> Message-ID: <50baabb30912231638q2daaac8bh1a122d51e4af91ab@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > FEL is a useful spin but it is very much a niche audience. Would you say > its unfair to promote only one spin? No actually, it is the task of any spin contributor to seek a proper simple and straight forward paragraph for this talking point wiki page. They are the ones who know what are the user's expectations from they features they are claiming. It is not unfair to promote only one spin ifother spin contributor of a spin team didn't get respectively contents on the wiki page. I did it for FEL. I find it unfair that the Fedora Project leader removed it. Also I find the reasons of Mel and yours not compatible for a justification of such removal. Here I'm talking about the removal of this FEL paragraph content, but I would _not_ hope the same case for any other spin. > I understand your point but IMO, you should use your spin page to > promote the spin. That's really the best place for spin specific content. You are confusing : spin specific content and spin F-12 specific content. spin specific content = global information about the spin spin F-12 specific content = workdone concerning the spin _during_ the development cycle of F-12 >> So why do we need a "Talking Points" wiki page if it would be an >> enhanced copy of the feature list ? > > Feature list pages are useful for coordination of the development > itself. Talking points is more end user focussed. That's a important > difference. Isn't it what I said (which you cut)? Chitlesh From sundaram at redhat.com Thu Dec 24 00:50:07 2009 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 06:20:07 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine, " Fedora 12 Talking Points. :) In-Reply-To: <50baabb30912231638q2daaac8bh1a122d51e4af91ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> <20091215134937.GF10169@victoria.internal.frields.org> <50baabb30912230206w3c8cbe34j88a91838458adda3@mail.gmail.com> <4B328B80.70809@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231518k27e37177p65d8a23d7f93bd26@mail.gmail.com> <4B32ABA2.7030602@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231616j73a6c72ei4bf07c9b435caddf@mail.gmail.com> <4B32B560.80109@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231638q2daaac8bh1a122d51e4af91ab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B32BABF.70903@redhat.com> On 12/24/2009 06:08 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: "Also I find the reasons of Mel and yours not compatible for a justification of such removal" We all have different view points obviously. Otherwise, there wouldn't be a discussion. > You are confusing : spin specific content and spin F-12 specific content. Not really. I don't think talking points are the place for either. If it was a entirely new spin that hasn't been there before, it would be useful to consider. For existing spins like FEL, use the dedicated pages like http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel. Like I said, I consider FEL to be useful spin but with a small audience as evident in http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ I would like talking points to cover more of the generic content that is appealing to a broader audience. >>> So why do we need a "Talking Points" wiki page if it would be an >>> enhanced copy of the feature list ? >> >> Feature list pages are useful for coordination of the development >> itself. Talking points is more end user focussed. That's a important >> difference. > > Isn't it what I said (which you cut)? I am noting that, it is not merely a enhanced copy. Rahul From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Thu Dec 24 01:00:49 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 02:00:49 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine, " Fedora 12 Talking Points. :) In-Reply-To: <4B32BABF.70903@redhat.com> References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> <20091215134937.GF10169@victoria.internal.frields.org> <50baabb30912230206w3c8cbe34j88a91838458adda3@mail.gmail.com> <4B328B80.70809@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231518k27e37177p65d8a23d7f93bd26@mail.gmail.com> <4B32ABA2.7030602@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231616j73a6c72ei4bf07c9b435caddf@mail.gmail.com> <4B32B560.80109@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231638q2daaac8bh1a122d51e4af91ab@mail.gmail.com> <4B32BABF.70903@redhat.com> Message-ID: <50baabb30912231700s2ba7f2c4u12b617f3620bdc2@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 1:50 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Not really. I don't think talking points are the place for either. If it > was a entirely new spin that hasn't been there before, it would be > useful to consider. ?For existing spins like FEL, use the dedicated > pages like http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel. The url of the talking point wiki page currently being discussed is : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Talking_Points That is: F-12 related. Please tell me how isn't it a place for either ? If it isn't as you said, I wonder what is the use of this wiki page then if it's not talking about anything ? > I would like talking points to cover more of the generic content that is > appealing to a broader audience. > So you are assuming that if there are less users interested, why not drop marketing support for an active team which is doing its one marketing and trying to get maximum exposure for building a community around it? Chitlesh From sundaram at redhat.com Thu Dec 24 01:14:41 2009 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 06:44:41 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine, " Fedora 12 Talking Points. :) In-Reply-To: <50baabb30912231700s2ba7f2c4u12b617f3620bdc2@mail.gmail.com> References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> <20091215134937.GF10169@victoria.internal.frields.org> <50baabb30912230206w3c8cbe34j88a91838458adda3@mail.gmail.com> <4B328B80.70809@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231518k27e37177p65d8a23d7f93bd26@mail.gmail.com> <4B32ABA2.7030602@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231616j73a6c72ei4bf07c9b435caddf@mail.gmail.com> <4B32B560.80109@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231638q2daaac8bh1a122d51e4af91ab@mail.gmail.com> <4B32BABF.70903@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231700s2ba7f2c4u12b617f3620bdc2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B32C081.2060509@redhat.com> On 12/24/2009 06:30 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 1:50 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Not really. I don't think talking points are the place for either. If it >> was a entirely new spin that hasn't been there before, it would be >> useful to consider. For existing spins like FEL, use the dedicated >> pages like http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel. > > The url of the talking point wiki page currently being discussed is : > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Talking_Points > > That is: F-12 related. Please tell me how isn't it a place for either > ? If it isn't as you said, I wonder what is the use of this wiki page > then if it's not talking about anything? The goal is to balance the content to the level that press and end users won't be overwhelmed by a long list of features. It is for new features in Fedora 12 that appeals to a *broad* audience. FEL changes don't fit into that. > So you are assuming that if there are less users interested, why not > drop marketing support for an active team which is doing its one > marketing and trying to get maximum exposure for building a community > around it? I am not sure what that means exactly. All I saying is that you should focus your marketing efforts as a spin owner on the spin pages. It is the best place for the content you wanted to highlight. Rahul From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Thu Dec 24 06:37:46 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 07:37:46 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine, " Fedora 12 Talking Points. :) In-Reply-To: <4B32C081.2060509@redhat.com> References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> <4B328B80.70809@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231518k27e37177p65d8a23d7f93bd26@mail.gmail.com> <4B32ABA2.7030602@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231616j73a6c72ei4bf07c9b435caddf@mail.gmail.com> <4B32B560.80109@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231638q2daaac8bh1a122d51e4af91ab@mail.gmail.com> <4B32BABF.70903@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231700s2ba7f2c4u12b617f3620bdc2@mail.gmail.com> <4B32C081.2060509@redhat.com> Message-ID: <50baabb30912232237j7d7a0bb2wd5a918940a833ee@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:14 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > The goal is to balance the content to the level that press and end users > won't be overwhelmed by a long list of features. It is for new features > in Fedora 12 that appeals to a *broad* audience. ?FEL changes don't fit > into that. Tell me how the following appeals to a *broad* audience as you said # 2 For administrators * 2.1 libguestfs * 2.2 Virtualization improvements # 3 For developers * 3.1 SystemTap Eclipse integration and tracing improvements * 3.2 NetBeans 6.7.1 compared to this : ------ Fedora's high-end hardware design and simulation platform, [http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/ Fedora Electronic Lab] was reinforced with PLA tools for digital design flow, a Peer Review Web-based solution for small businesses, simulators for 8081 and 8085 microcontrollers, development tools for Openmoko development and power charged Eclipse 3.5 with plugins for HDL/IP development. Read [http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/papers/FEL12ReleaseNotes.pdf Release Notes] and [http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/papers/fel-flyer-f12.pdf Flyer] for complementary information. {{admon/tip|FEL-12 mini tour|Get to know FEL-12's [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraElectronicLab/TalkingPoints talking points] in 3 minutes. }} ----- It's perfectly clear that if this content gets stripped so should #2 For administrators and # 3 For developers. Originally, David was looking for F-12 contents for his presentation but didn't know what/how to put in his presentation. This is exactly what people are expecting from the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Talking_Points. Having a separate page elsewhere defeats the purpose of https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Talking_Points. That FEL paragraph was also meant for marketing purposes. Till now, none of your reasons explains the removal objectively. Chitlesh From sundaram at redhat.com Thu Dec 24 08:21:59 2009 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:51:59 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine, " Fedora 12 Talking Points. :) In-Reply-To: <50baabb30912232237j7d7a0bb2wd5a918940a833ee@mail.gmail.com> References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> <4B328B80.70809@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231518k27e37177p65d8a23d7f93bd26@mail.gmail.com> <4B32ABA2.7030602@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231616j73a6c72ei4bf07c9b435caddf@mail.gmail.com> <4B32B560.80109@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231638q2daaac8bh1a122d51e4af91ab@mail.gmail.com> <4B32BABF.70903@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231700s2ba7f2c4u12b617f3620bdc2@mail.gmail.com> <4B32C081.2060509@redhat.com> <50baabb30912232237j7d7a0bb2wd5a918940a833ee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B3324A7.8040104@redhat.com> On 12/24/2009 12:07 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:14 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> The goal is to balance the content to the level that press and end users >> won't be overwhelmed by a long list of features. It is for new features >> in Fedora 12 that appeals to a *broad* audience. FEL changes don't fit >> into that. > > Tell me how the following appeals to a *broad* audience as you said > # 2 For administrators > * 2.1 libguestfs > * 2.2 Virtualization improvements > # 3 For developers > * 3.1 SystemTap Eclipse integration and tracing improvements > * 3.2 NetBeans 6.7.1 It is easy to see that Virtualization and Developer tools have far more users than in the Fedora space compare to electronics but I don't think you are ever going to agree to a alternative viewpoint from yours and at this point, we can agree to disagree. Good luck. Rahul From tristan.santore at internexusconnect.net Thu Dec 24 09:09:55 2009 From: tristan.santore at internexusconnect.net (Tristan Santore) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:09:55 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine, " Fedora 12 Talking Points. :) In-Reply-To: <4B3324A7.8040104@redhat.com> References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> <4B328B80.70809@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231518k27e37177p65d8a23d7f93bd26@mail.gmail.com> <4B32ABA2.7030602@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231616j73a6c72ei4bf07c9b435caddf@mail.gmail.com> <4B32B560.80109@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231638q2daaac8bh1a122d51e4af91ab@mail.gmail.com> <4B32BABF.70903@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231700s2ba7f2c4u12b617f3620bdc2@mail.gmail.com> <4B32C081.2060509@redhat.com> <50baabb30912232237j7d7a0bb2wd5a918940a833ee@mail.gmail.com> <4B3324A7.8040104@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4B332FE3.4080205@internexusconnect.net> On 24/12/09 08:21, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 12/24/2009 12:07 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > >> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:14 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> >>> The goal is to balance the content to the level that press and end users >>> won't be overwhelmed by a long list of features. It is for new features >>> in Fedora 12 that appeals to a *broad* audience. FEL changes don't fit >>> into that. >>> >> Tell me how the following appeals to a *broad* audience as you said >> # 2 For administrators >> * 2.1 libguestfs >> * 2.2 Virtualization improvements >> # 3 For developers >> * 3.1 SystemTap Eclipse integration and tracing improvements >> * 3.2 NetBeans 6.7.1 >> > It is easy to see that Virtualization and Developer tools have far more > users than in the Fedora space compare to electronics but I don't think > you are ever going to agree to a alternative viewpoint from yours and at > this point, we can agree to disagree. Good luck. > > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Dear All, first of all I would like to say, that I do no think that this discussion belongs onto the ambassadors list. Secondly, maybe somebody should make clear, as to what is meant to be on that marketing list. As I myself could not exactly gather what that page is for. Thirdly, I do not see anything wrong with FEL being on that list, as anything that makes Fedora more desirable is, as far as I am concerned , useful and very welcome. Fourth point to make is, that Chitlesh is very passionate about the FEL spin (we had the pleasure to meet at FUDcon Berlin), it seems popular and his contribution is very welcome. And last not least, are we forgetting the goals here ? Talking points, is not the documentation for the Fedora ISO media, if FEL were mentioned there, I could understand objections, however, I would not see a problem in seeing a docs item just on FEL, if people are willing to work on it. If spins were commercially sold, I would object to them being anywhere near the sites, however I do not know of one and FEL most certainly is not sold either! Talking points is for our users! So I have a few suggestions to make: a. Clarify what should be on that site b. Think of the real goals here please, i.e. End Users They want to know everything new, which makes it a talking point, which in turn bigs up Fedora as a whole. So throwing a hissy fit on what should or should not be a talking point, is just silly. Think of the real goal here! THE USER! c. Chitlesh, I suggest if you are not happy with this back and forth, that you either take the issue to a marketing meeting, or whoever started that page (for a moment there I almost wrote "controls", but we are a community so we all control it). If that does not satisfy you Id take the issue to Paul and maybe he can arbitrate, or even the board can make a final decision on this matter. Now, you all have a good few days over Christmas, regardless of your cultural background (time off), and try and sort it out via arbitration means. And keep smiling please, while keeping the end-user in site. 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RHEL5 was the one that gave me knowledge of Linux . -- Jaideep http://jdk2588.wordpress.com From sspreitzer at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 24 10:06:36 2009 From: sspreitzer at fedoraproject.org (Sascha Thomas Spreitzer) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 11:06:36 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Pictures of the new Fedora 12 Media Message-ID: Hello Ambassadors, please find attached the link to the pictures of our just arrived new Media. http://picasaweb.google.com/sascha.spreitzer/Fedora12Media merry christmas and a happy new year, best wishes, Sascha From fhornain at gmail.com Thu Dec 24 10:25:23 2009 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 11:25:23 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thinking about future Red Hat training and/or certification. :) In-Reply-To: <6fb322fb0912240127h2f40bd78j665dadec95264621@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c56c38a0912160621x4b4e82ber47272f835c444b7f@mail.gmail.com> <4B316101.8060301@kaio.me> <6fb322fb0912240127h2f40bd78j665dadec95264621@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0912240225na37bb64m1f3f41ef7c0c5f08@mail.gmail.com> Dear *, FYI -> http://www.redhat.com/rhceloopback/ Best Regards Frederic On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:27 AM, jaideep k wrote: > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Caius 'kaio' Chance wrote: > > (2009?12?22? 14:25), David Ramsey wrote: > >> > >> Thinking about future Red Hat training and/or certification. :) > >> > >> ================================================================== > > > RHCE exam helped me to have a much deeper understanding on mechanisms of > > Linux/RHEL/Fedora/CentOS blah blah. > > > Infact i moved towards fedora after earning my RHCE and then > practicing for RHCSS . 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Copying the > Marketing list on this. > > The Talking Points that the Marketing team produces for our release > deliverables are talking points for the Desktop (GNOME) Spin. while some the arguments for spins maybe are valid and the work on the spins pages is absolut great, i do not think that marketing has understand the relevance of fel - this is not just a spin, it is something really unique in Fedora - no other Distribution has something mature like this related to electronics. Chitlesh and the fel gang could go the easy way by just making a remix with strange licences - but they work hard with the electronics industrie to convince them to change licences to have it in fel or even become contributors. It has also Ambassador Relevance - i could hire some of the most brilliant contributors through fel, they came as normal software-, computer enthusiasts and were more than happy i introduced fel to them - so i suggest put it back - this has general relevance in some parts of the world! cu Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From ganesai at gmail.com Thu Dec 24 13:03:36 2009 From: ganesai at gmail.com (sai ganesh) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:03:36 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thinking about future Red Hat training and/or certification. :) In-Reply-To: <3161376e0912240225na37bb64m1f3f41ef7c0c5f08@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c56c38a0912160621x4b4e82ber47272f835c444b7f@mail.gmail.com> <4B316101.8060301@kaio.me> <6fb322fb0912240127h2f40bd78j665dadec95264621@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0912240225na37bb64m1f3f41ef7c0c5f08@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f952b9b0912240503t26b7fd96rd74c36e103b48d0e@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Dear *, > > FYI -> http://www.redhat.com/rhceloopback/ > > Best Regards > Frederic > > > On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:27 AM, jaideep k wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Caius 'kaio' Chance wrote: >> > (2009?12?22? 14:25), David Ramsey wrote: >> >> >> >> Thinking about future Red Hat training and/or certification. :) >> >> >> >> ================================================================== >> >> > RHCE exam helped me to have a much deeper understanding on mechanisms of >> > Linux/RHEL/Fedora/CentOS blah blah. >> > >> Infact i moved towards fedora after earning my RHCE and then >> practicing for RHCSS . RHEL5 was the one that gave me knowledge of >> Linux . >> > Seriously , the best one to consider is RHCE as far as the linux certification goes.*B*ut fedora is the true winner it is the one that inspired me to take RHCE.i got my RHCE at 18.i may get RHCSS in 19.i have cleared two exams(EX429 & EX423) and one left for being the youngest RHCSS.so hats off to both fedora and redhat. -- s.saiganesh fedora ambassador ?The Linux philosophy is 'Laugh in the face of danger'. Oops. Wrong One. 'Do it yourself'. Yes, that's it -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hopparz at gmail.com Thu Dec 24 13:12:21 2009 From: hopparz at gmail.com (Zoltan Hoppar) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 14:12:21 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] During some of my review of the Fedora 12"Constantine, " Fedora 12 Talking Points. :) In-Reply-To: <200912241340.45683.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> <20091215134937.GF10169@victoria.internal.frields.org> <4B27B37A.6060806@redhat.com> <200912241340.45683.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <2f3d0f330912240512w61fcc6fcyf2127ae18b03b1f@mail.gmail.com> I say FEL has a worth to keep it on that list. However respins are also our Fedorians work. If the licences are mixed, that doesn't mean that isn't awesome, or hasn't worth to mention. I think if something unique are created in respins then must to know the people. Hell, we are try always to innovate, why is a shame that is Fedora based, and our child? Zoltan 2009/12/24 Joerg Simon > On Tuesday 15 December 2009 17:04:10 Mel Chua wrote: > > On 12/15/2009 08:49 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:31:23AM -0500, David Ramsey wrote: > > >> There is some entry for Fedora Electronic Lab, eh? I do not > > >> understand this for my presentation. > > > > I'll revert that edit. > > i think the better way would be to explain what relevance FEL has, to > David. > > > Thanks for the catch, David - and for the edit, Paul. Copying the > > Marketing list on this. > > > > The Talking Points that the Marketing team produces for our release > > deliverables are talking points for the Desktop (GNOME) Spin. > > while some the arguments for spins maybe are valid and the work on the > spins > pages is absolut great, i do not think that marketing has understand the > relevance of fel - this is not just a spin, it is something really unique > in > Fedora - no other Distribution has something mature like this related to > electronics. Chitlesh and the fel gang could go the easy way by just making > a > remix with strange licences - but they work hard with the electronics > industrie to convince them to change licences to have it in fel or even > become > contributors. It has also Ambassador Relevance - i could hire some of the > most > brilliant contributors through fel, they came as normal software-, computer > enthusiasts and were more than happy i introduced fel to them - so i > suggest > put it back - this has general relevance in some parts of the world! > > cu Joerg > > -- > Joerg (kital) Simon > jsimon at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon > http://kitall.blogspot.com > Key Fingerprint: > 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- PGP: 06853DF7 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If the licences are mixed, that doesn't mean that isn't > awesome, or hasn't worth to mention. and as wrote before the fel guys go the hard way by maintain it within fedora to have the licences straight - not as a remix or as a derivate thanks for the support Zoltan -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. 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Looking at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Talking_Points https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Talking_Points http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talking_points_for_F10 all mention features that were not part of the Desktop Spin and also target a developer's audience. Merry Christmas, Christoph From tatica at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 24 22:01:57 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:31:57 -0430 Subject: [Ambassadors] Happy Holidays In-Reply-To: References: <2f3d0f330912231607p67ea398hcba22b6af9782b14@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <27a6293b0912241401w6663b0d6n164f4889701e80ee@mail.gmail.com> Merry Christmas to all... and I hope to see everyone's tomorrow photos! :D Have a great night with your family and friends :) 2009/12/24 Wolnei C?ndido Tomazelli Junior > Happy Christmas and happy new year for everyone. > > -- > Wolnei C?ndido Tomazelli Junior (Charged) > Brazil Fedora Ambassador > Telecommunications Engineer > Linux User #477062 > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... 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Let the Universe conspire to peace and harmony. -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Fri Dec 25 00:30:49 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 01:30:49 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine, " Fedora 12 Talking Points. :) In-Reply-To: <4B3324A7.8040104@redhat.com> References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> <4B32ABA2.7030602@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231616j73a6c72ei4bf07c9b435caddf@mail.gmail.com> <4B32B560.80109@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231638q2daaac8bh1a122d51e4af91ab@mail.gmail.com> <4B32BABF.70903@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231700s2ba7f2c4u12b617f3620bdc2@mail.gmail.com> <4B32C081.2060509@redhat.com> <50baabb30912232237j7d7a0bb2wd5a918940a833ee@mail.gmail.com> <4B3324A7.8040104@redhat.com> Message-ID: <50baabb30912241630p5a06b656q25ee5ba806f328c@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 12/24/2009 12:07 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:14 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> The goal is to balance the content to the level that press and end users >>> won't be overwhelmed by a long list of features. It is for new features >>> in Fedora 12 that appeals to a *broad* audience. ?FEL changes don't fit >>> into that. >> >> Tell me how the following appeals to a *broad* audience as you said >> # 2 For administrators >> ? ? * 2.1 libguestfs >> ? ? * 2.2 Virtualization improvements >> # 3 For developers >> ? ? * 3.1 SystemTap Eclipse integration and tracing improvements >> ? ? * 3.2 NetBeans 6.7.1 > > It is easy to see that Virtualization and Developer tools have far more > users than in the Fedora space compare to electronics but I don't think > you are ever going to agree to a alternative viewpoint from yours and at > this point, we can agree to disagree. Good luck. Why the user count matters for the "F12 talking points" wiki page ? It could be for "Fedora Talking Points" wiki page. Mel points to "Fedora Desktop Spin". Rahul points to "User count specific talking points". Both are outside the scope of "Fedora 12 Talking points" wiki page. Chitlesh From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Fri Dec 25 00:43:55 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 01:43:55 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] During some of my review of the Fedora 12 "Constantine, " Fedora 12 Talking Points. :) In-Reply-To: <4B332FE3.4080205@internexusconnect.net> References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> <50baabb30912231616j73a6c72ei4bf07c9b435caddf@mail.gmail.com> <4B32B560.80109@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231638q2daaac8bh1a122d51e4af91ab@mail.gmail.com> <4B32BABF.70903@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231700s2ba7f2c4u12b617f3620bdc2@mail.gmail.com> <4B32C081.2060509@redhat.com> <50baabb30912232237j7d7a0bb2wd5a918940a833ee@mail.gmail.com> <4B3324A7.8040104@redhat.com> <4B332FE3.4080205@internexusconnect.net> Message-ID: <50baabb30912241643m3e4979aaw692a44e2f9350a8d@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Tristan Santore wrote: > And last not least, are we forgetting the goals here ? Talking points, is > not the documentation for the Fedora ISO media, if FEL were mentioned there, > I could understand objections, however, I would not see a problem in seeing > a docs item just on FEL, if people are willing to work on it. If spins were > commercially sold, I would object to them being anywhere near the sites, > however I do not know of one and FEL most certainly is not sold either! > Talking points is for our users! We are not talking about _documentation_ here, but simply 2/3 lines which describe what a SIG has done briefly during the F-12 development cycle and which is user oriented. Here it's the case for FEL. Tomorrow it might be for another spin/SIG. The detailed changes are explained here : http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/papers/FEL12ReleaseNotes.pdf What concerns me is that key active fedora contributors do not understand the purpose of the wiki page they are editing. Look around you, people(users) are interested in smaller hardware : iphone, ipod, openmoko, maemo,... We have seen quite a few blog posts on fedora planet. We(fedora) are the only one providing a proper set of toolchain for openmoko hardware development. I don't understand how this can't be of a marketing value for Fedora since the work has already been done ? Chitlesh From ganesai at gmail.com Fri Dec 25 01:30:15 2009 From: ganesai at gmail.com (sai ganesh) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 01:30:15 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] help needed in contributing to se-linux policies development. Message-ID: <7f952b9b0912241730y266c96aeu7c92acbc7a50968a@mail.gmail.com> hi, my name is sai. i am a fedora-ambassador.i want to contribute to the development of se-linux policies.i am a Redhat certified se-linux policy administrator.i am well versed in development of se-linux policies.how can i contribute ? whom should i contact? -- s.saiganesh ?The Linux philosophy is 'Laugh in the face of danger'. Oops. 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X???????????! 2009/12/24, Mar?a Leandro : > Merry Christmas to all... and I hope to see everyone's tomorrow photos! :D > > Have a great night with your family and friends :) > > 2009/12/24 Wolnei C?ndido Tomazelli Junior > >> Happy Christmas and happy new year for everyone. >> >> -- >> Wolnei C?ndido Tomazelli Junior (Charged) >> Brazil Fedora Ambassador >> Telecommunications Engineer >> Linux User #477062 >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Fri Dec 25 08:37:38 2009 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 09:37:38 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] help needed in contributing to se-linux policies development. In-Reply-To: <7f952b9b0912241730y266c96aeu7c92acbc7a50968a@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f952b9b0912241730y266c96aeu7c92acbc7a50968a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d319b780912250037p712e342cqda61048bb97ee6e7@mail.gmail.com> Hi Sai, On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 02:30, sai ganesh wrote: > ??? my name is sai. i am a fedora-ambassador.i want to contribute to the > development of se-linux policies.i am? a Redhat certified se-linux policy > administrator.i am well versed in development of se-linux policies.how can i > contribute ? > whom should i contact? This list is definitely not the best place to ask for that. You should try on fedora-devel where all the developers hang out: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list Alternatively, you could try the following: 1. find the packages providing the SELinux policies : selinux-policy 2. Go to look for its owner in the PackageDB : https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/selinux-policy?_csrf_token=ab377a170b2ad7402bcc385abe160c7c8f22895a There, you just found the FAS accounts of the owners of the package. They should be able to guide you towards contributing ;) Best regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Fri Dec 25 09:18:51 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 04:18:51 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] help needed in contributing to se-linux policies development. In-Reply-To: <2d319b780912250037p712e342cqda61048bb97ee6e7@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f952b9b0912241730y266c96aeu7c92acbc7a50968a@mail.gmail.com>, <2d319b780912250037p712e342cqda61048bb97ee6e7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Hi Sai, > > On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 02:30, sai ganesh wrote: >> ??? my name is sai. i am a fedora-ambassador.i want to contribute to the >> development of se-linux policies.i am? a Redhat certified se-linux policy >> administrator.i am well versed in development of se-linux policies.how can i >> contribute ? >> whom should i contact? Hello Everyone, Greetings.? :) Mathieu, thank you for your post and guidance.? It is good to have ideas in order to help Sai with his pursuit.? :) > This list is definitely not the best place to ask for that. You should > try on fedora-devel where all the developers hang out: > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list > Alternatively, you could try the following: > 1. find the packages providing the SELinux policies : > selinux-policy > 2. Go to look for its owner in the PackageDB : > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/selinux-policy?_csrf_token=ab377a170b2ad7402bcc385abe160c7c8f22895a > There, you just found the FAS accounts of the owners of the package. > They should be able to guide you towards contributing ;) Fantastic ideas to help Sai and others in their pursuit to contribute to our Fedora project.? :v) Please have a great day!? :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey --------------------------------- ???????? ????????? Even monkeys fall from trees. Even experts make mistakes. --------------------------------- = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32.2-14.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Fri Dec 25 10:02:19 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 05:02:19 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thinking about future Red Hat training and/or certification. :) In-Reply-To: <3161376e0912240225na37bb64m1f3f41ef7c0c5f08@mail.gmail.com> References: <6c56c38a0912160621x4b4e82ber47272f835c444b7f@mail.gmail.com>, , <4B316101.8060301@kaio.me>, <6fb322fb0912240127h2f40bd78j665dadec95264621@mail.gmail.com>, <3161376e0912240225na37bb64m1f3f41ef7c0c5f08@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) I deeply appreciate everyone's comments regarding Red Hat training as well as certification.? :) > FYI -> http://www.redhat.com/rhceloopback/ Cool!? :) There were many good ideas to express how the impact of training investment.? :) Last year, I had a coupon code for my two Red Hat classes and I was able to save about $200 per class.? :) My $60 investment for a one year individual subscription in me will be the "Red Hat Enterprise Linux - Academic Editions" - http://www.redhat.com/solutions/education/academic/ for the Red Hat Enterprise Linux Academic Server Edition. :) For my thought for Training for Education - http://www.redhat.com/solutions/education/training/ as well as the Red Hat Academy - http://www.redhat.com/solutions/education/academy/ different places have access to various versions of the Red Hat Academy dependant upon their location, for example, * United States/Canada: na-RHAsales at redhat.com, Phone: 866-273-3428 x43770 * EMEA: emea-rhasales at redhat.com * APAC: apac-rhasales at redhat.com * LATAM: latam-rhasales at redhat.com Red Hat Academy Locator - http://www.redhat.com/solutions/education/academy/locator.html Worldwide Academic Qualification - http://www.redhat.com/solutions/education/academicqualification/ For "financing" try here at Red Hat Training and Certification - https://www.redhat.com/training/training_financing.html I hope that this helps. ;) Please have a great day / evening and an enjoyable weekend! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey --------------------------------- ???? ???????? 10 people 10 colors Different strokes for different folks --------------------------------- = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32.2-14.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = From jpill at jpilldev.com Fri Dec 25 20:15:32 2009 From: jpill at jpilldev.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Juan_Pablo_Botero_L=F3pez?=) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:15:32 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thinking about future Red Hat training and/or certification. :) In-Reply-To: References: <6c56c38a0912160621x4b4e82ber47272f835c444b7f@mail.gmail.com> <4B316101.8060301@kaio.me> <6fb322fb0912240127h2f40bd78j665dadec95264621@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0912240225na37bb64m1f3f41ef7c0c5f08@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48e7f6a20912251215o2ce287fbi3a5234f445738ca9@mail.gmail.com> Hello. I'm very interested in getting this certification, buut the money could be a little problem. So, can we make or invent any way to publish content that helps with the preparation?, i'm no mentiong the official material, i think everything is on line, so, the process could be, to publish information according the index that proposes red hat in its web page. Thanks. 2009/12/25 David Ramsey > > Hello Everyone, > > Greetings. :) > > I deeply appreciate everyone's comments regarding Red Hat training as well > as certification. :) > > > FYI -> http://www.redhat.com/rhceloopback/ > > Cool! :) > > There were many good ideas to express how the impact of training > investment. :) > > Last year, I had a coupon code for my two Red Hat classes and I was able to > save about $200 per class. :) > > My $60 investment for a one year individual subscription in me will be the > "Red Hat Enterprise Linux - Academic Editions" - > > > > http://www.redhat.com/solutions/education/academic/ > > > > for the Red Hat Enterprise Linux Academic Server Edition. :) > > > For my thought for Training for Education - > > http://www.redhat.com/solutions/education/training/ > > as well as the Red Hat Academy - > > http://www.redhat.com/solutions/education/academy/ > > different places have access to various versions of the Red Hat Academy > dependant upon their location, for example, > > * United States/Canada: na-RHAsales at redhat.com, Phone: 866-273-3428 x43770 > * EMEA: emea-rhasales at redhat.com > * APAC: apac-rhasales at redhat.com > * LATAM: latam-rhasales at redhat.com > > Red Hat Academy Locator - > > http://www.redhat.com/solutions/education/academy/locator.html > > Worldwide Academic Qualification - > > http://www.redhat.com/solutions/education/academicqualification/ > > For "financing" try here at Red Hat Training and Certification - > > https://www.redhat.com/training/training_financing.html > > I hope that this helps. ;) > > Please have a great day / evening and an enjoyable weekend! :~) > > > > Thank You > > Sincerely > > =-=-=-=-= > > - David - > > =-=-=-=-= > > David Ramsey > > --------------------------------- > > ???? > > ???????? > > 10 people 10 colors > > Different strokes for different folks > > --------------------------------- > > = > > Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey > > * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) > kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686.PAE > > * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - > 2.6.32.2-14.fc13.i686.PAE > > With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate > 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. > > = > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Juan Pablo Botero Administrador de Sistemas Inform?ticos. 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URL: From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Sat Dec 26 05:49:00 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 00:49:00 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] A friendly reminder for the APAC meeting on Sunday, December 27th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC :) In-Reply-To: References: <4A8B7C3C.2040500@aim.com>, , , , , , Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) A friendly reminder for the APAC meeting on Sunday, December 27th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC :) ======================================== Day : Sunday, December 27th, 2009 Time : 07:00 UTC See the following URL to check and verify your own timing based on your location - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2009&month=12&day=27&hour=07&min=0&sec=0 Channel : #fedora-meeting https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-12-27 For any proposed changes to the draft agenda, then please update - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-12-27#Agenda ======================================== I hope that you may be able to attend. :) Sending positive Fedora 12 energy from my computer to yours. :v) Please have a great day and an enjoyable week! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey --------------------------------- ???? ???????? 10 people 10 colors Different strokes for different folks --------------------------------- = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32.2-14.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = From shakthimaan at gmail.com Sun Dec 27 19:06:38 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:36:38 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Event Report] Maharaja Sayajirao University of Baroda, Vadodara, Gujarat, India Message-ID: Hi, I had conducted a one-day Fedora, Free Software workshop at the Bachelor of Computer Applications department, Maharaja Sayajirao University of Baroda (Vadodara), Gujarat, India on Saturday, December 26, 2009. Thanks to VGLUG [1] for coordinating with me for the past few months in organizing this event. I would like to thank the Fedora project for sponsoring the travel. * The BCA department lab systems were equipped to run on Fedora 12, and we used it for couple of the hands-on sessions: - Use of git: di-git-ally managing love letters [2] - Packaging Fedora RPM [3] * I had also addressed the following topics: - i-want-2-do-project. tell-me-wat-2-do-fedora [4] - Badam Halwa of Embedded Systems [5] * Participants were from the BCA department, and had also come from Ahmedabad [6]. Vadodara (Baroda) connects to Ahmedabad via a 95km expressway [7]. * Free/Open Source Software is officially included in the Gujarat state school syllabus for higher secondary (XI and XII). In the coming years it is expected to be even introduced from standard VIII. * The Department coordinator and Professor V A Kalamkar is happy to facilitate work between VGLUG, and the students for Free/Open Source Software projects. We hope to have more interaction with them in the future. * VGLUG members are also keen on participating in the Fedora project at various sub-projects of their interests. * Due to the political crisis [8] in Hyderabad, I was uncertain about reaching the Hyderabad airport, and thus making it to the workshop. The bandh was withdrawn for December 25th, and when I made it the airport on the 25th, the scheduled flight was cancelled. So, I had to re-schedule a different flight, but, the airline officials said they couldn't guarantee if I will make it to my connecting flight in Mumbai. This re-scheduled flight got delayed even further. Luckily, my connecting flight also got delayed, and I finally managed to make it to Vadodara. * As customary, here are some photos taken during the trip: http://www.shakthimaan.com/Mambo/gallery/album60 Regards, SK [1] VGLUG. http://www.vglug.info. [2] di-git-ally managing love letters. http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/di-git-ally-managing-love-letters.pdf. [3] Packaging RPM. http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/packaging-red-hot-paneer-butter-masala.pdf. [4] i-want-2-do-project. tell-me-wat-2-do-fedora. http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/i-want-2-do-project-tell-me-wat-2-do-fedora.pdf [5] Badam Halwa of Embedded Systems. http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/badam.halwa.of.embedded.systems.pdf [6] Ahmedabad. http://wikitravel.org/en/Ahmedabad. [7] National Expressway 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_National_Expressway_1. [8] Bandh hits life at Telangana. http://beta.thehindu.com/news/national/article69789.ece. -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Mon Dec 28 01:53:08 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:53:08 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FYI, here are the APAC meeting notes from Sunday, December 27th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: <4A8B7C3C.2040500@aim.com>, , , Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) FYI, here are the APAC meeting notes from Sunday, December 27th, 2009 at 07:00 UTC :v) ======================= #fedora-meeting Meeting ======================= http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-27/fedora-meeting.2009-12-27-07.06.txt http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-27/fedora-meeting.2009-12-27-07.06.html ======= Full logs - ======= http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-27/fedora-meeting.2009-12-27-07.06.log.txt http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-12-27/fedora-meeting.2009-12-27-07.06.log.html Happy New Fedora! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey --------------------------------- ???? ???????? 10 people 10 colors Different strokes for different folks --------------------------------- = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32.2-15.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = From ry at n.rix.si Mon Dec 28 03:56:40 2009 From: ry at n.rix.si (Ryan Rix) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:56:40 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Brand Fuel Baseball Cap manufacturer Message-ID: <200912272056.46729.ry@n.rix.si> Hey Max, all, Ambassadors were discussing in IRC about ordering some Fedora embroidered baseball caps for event swag, and the general consensus was that the Brand Fuel caps were really nice, and it would be cool if we could get them ordered from their manufacturer. Do you (Max) or anyone on either marketing or ambassadors have any details on the manufacturer that Brand Fuel uses and how we could get in contact with them? Thanks all, Ryan Rix -- Ryan Rix Fedora KDE SIG Member, Phoenix AZ Ambassador, News KDE Beat writer New Mail address: phrkonaleash at gmail.com -> ry at n.rix.si !! http://hackersramblings.wordpress.com | http://identi.ca/phrkonaleash XMPP: phrkonaleash at gmail.com | MSN: phrkonaleash at yahoo.com AIM: phrkonaleash | Yahoo: phrkonaleash IRC: PhrkOnLsh at irc.freenode.net/#srcedit,#plugaz,#fedora-kde and countless other FOSS channels. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Mon Dec 28 04:28:18 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:28:18 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Brand Fuel Baseball Cap manufacturer In-Reply-To: <200912272056.46729.ry@n.rix.si> References: <200912272056.46729.ry@n.rix.si> Message-ID: > From: ry at n.rix.si > To: mspevack at redhat.com > Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:56:40 -0700 > CC: fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com; fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Subject: [Ambassadors] Brand Fuel Baseball Cap manufacturer Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) Ryan, thank you for your post. :) > Ambassadors were discussing in IRC about ordering some Fedora embroidered baseball caps for event swag, and the general consensus was that the Brand Fuel caps were really nice, and it would be cool if we could get them ordered from their manufacturer. Not sure about the Brand Fuel Caps. > Do you (Max) or anyone on either marketing or ambassadors have any details on the manufacturer that Brand Fuel uses and how we could get in contact with them? As a price comparison you may try this vendor listed at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey#Projects - http://www.queensboro.com/ You may correspond with this manufacturer and inquire on the "Brand Fuel Caps" - http://www.queensboro.com/contactus If you have any questions, then please do not hesitate to ask. :v) Please have Happy Holidays! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey --------------------------------- ???????? ????????? Even monkeys fall from trees. Even experts make mistakes. --------------------------------- = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32.2-15.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = From gerold at lugd.org Mon Dec 28 07:32:48 2009 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:32:48 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Brand Fuel Baseball Cap manufacturer In-Reply-To: <200912272056.46729.ry@n.rix.si> References: <200912272056.46729.ry@n.rix.si> Message-ID: <1261985568.2478.1.camel@localhost> two years ago, in Germany we produced a cap with a stiched logo and the cap which looks awesome ... Someday, when we'll have a store on each continent ... Regards Gerold Am Sonntag, den 27.12.2009, 20:56 -0700 schrieb Ryan Rix: > Hey Max, all, > > Ambassadors were discussing in IRC about ordering some Fedora embroidered > baseball caps for event swag, and the general consensus was that the Brand > Fuel caps were really nice, and it would be cool if we could get them ordered > from their manufacturer. > > Do you (Max) or anyone on either marketing or ambassadors have any details on > the manufacturer that Brand Fuel uses and how we could get in contact with > them? > > Thanks all, > Ryan Rix > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Brand Fuel is the RedHat Vendor, in the past other vendors could provide better prices. > Do you (Max) or anyone on either marketing or ambassadors have any details > on the manufacturer that Brand Fuel uses and how we could get in contact > with them? Not for Brand Fuel - but maybe it is a good idea to ask the vendors listed here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Swag_vendors As far as i know Pascal Calarco took care for stiched fedora-polos in North America - if the vendor has already a stich-card, it can be a cheaper alternative to produce the caps by this vendor - just ask Pascal. cu Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From ppapadeas at gmail.com Mon Dec 28 23:54:34 2009 From: ppapadeas at gmail.com (Pierros Papadeas) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:54:34 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] No EMEA Meeting this week! Message-ID: <21461b360912281554wfef2625h7ed2988940e444cc@mail.gmail.com> Hi fellow ambassadors! Due to popular request EMEA IRC Ambassadors Meeting will not happen on 30th December 2009. Call it vacation, call it day off, call it Xmas, call it deep winter, call it whatever you want! Enough ambassadors have contacted me on postponing it, so I suggest we are having our next meeting on 6th January 2010. (More Reminders will follow) Hope you all have great times whatever you are doing for vacations or not, and may the new year be happy for us and Fedora! See ya all next week, Pierros -- Pierros Papadeas PGP key: 0x6130DBF8 http://pierros.papadeas.gr pierros at papadeas.gr liknus @ GRnet , Freenode From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Tue Dec 29 05:03:38 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:03:38 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 12 listing...a very professional looking page. :) In-Reply-To: <50baabb30912241643m3e4979aaw692a44e2f9350a8d@mail.gmail.com> References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com>, <50baabb30912231616j73a6c72ei4bf07c9b435caddf@mail.gmail.com>, <4B32B560.80109@redhat.com>, <50baabb30912231638q2daaac8bh1a122d51e4af91ab@mail.gmail.com>, <4B32BABF.70903@redhat.com>, <50baabb30912231700s2ba7f2c4u12b617f3620bdc2@mail.gmail.com>, <4B32C081.2060509@redhat.com>, <50baabb30912232237j7d7a0bb2wd5a918940a833ee@mail.gmail.com>, <4B3324A7.8040104@redhat.com> <4B332FE3.4080205@internexusconnect.net>, <50baabb30912241643m3e4979aaw692a44e2f9350a8d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) ================================================= I like this "Fedora 12 one page release notes" - A very professional looking page. :) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes ================================================= I like the Fedora 12 'Constantine' "F12 release slogan" - Unite. :) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_release_slogan ================================================= I have made an update for Fedora 13 "Goddard" - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Release_deliverables for the "F13 release slogan" - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_slogan ================================================= Please have a great day! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey --------------------------------- ???? ???????? One stone; two birds. To kill 2 birds with 1 stone. --------------------------------- = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686.PAE * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32.2-15.fc13.i686.PAE With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. = From callkalpa at gmail.com Tue Dec 29 05:29:01 2009 From: callkalpa at gmail.com (W.H. Kalpa Pathum) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:59:01 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 12 listing...a very professional looking page. :) In-Reply-To: References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> <50baabb30912231638q2daaac8bh1a122d51e4af91ab@mail.gmail.com> <4B32BABF.70903@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231700s2ba7f2c4u12b617f3620bdc2@mail.gmail.com> <4B32C081.2060509@redhat.com> <50baabb30912232237j7d7a0bb2wd5a918940a833ee@mail.gmail.com> <4B3324A7.8040104@redhat.com> <4B332FE3.4080205@internexusconnect.net> <50baabb30912241643m3e4979aaw692a44e2f9350a8d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <79fa0d5a0912282129k896c8aag1def2e05089c1e79@mail.gmail.com> 2009/12/29 David Ramsey : > > Hello Everyone, > > Greetings. :) > > ================================================= > > I like this "Fedora 12 one page release notes" - > > A very professional looking page. :) > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes > this is great > ================================================= > > I like the Fedora 12 'Constantine' "F12 release slogan" - > > Unite. :) > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_release_slogan > > ================================================= > > I have made an update for Fedora 13 "Goddard" - > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Release_deliverables > > for the "F13 release slogan" - > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_slogan > > ================================================= > > Please have a great day! :~) > > Thank You > Sincerely > =-=-=-=-= > - David - > =-=-=-=-= > David Ramsey > --------------------------------- > ???? > ???????? > One stone; two birds. > To kill 2 birds with 1 stone. > --------------------------------- > = > Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey > * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686.PAE > * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32.2-15.fc13.i686.PAE > With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. > = > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- W.H.Kalpa Pathum ............................................... http://kalpapathum.blogspot.com http://thiraya.wordpress.com http://www.twitter.com/callkalpa ............................................... From khatri.jatin at gmail.com Tue Dec 29 05:41:06 2009 From: khatri.jatin at gmail.com (Jkhatri) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:11:06 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 12 listing...a very professional looking page. :) In-Reply-To: <79fa0d5a0912282129k896c8aag1def2e05089c1e79@mail.gmail.com> References: <21461b360912141450g2f24e2e7s58ca73ebd2ab2bac@mail.gmail.com> <50baabb30912231638q2daaac8bh1a122d51e4af91ab@mail.gmail.com> <4B32BABF.70903@redhat.com> <50baabb30912231700s2ba7f2c4u12b617f3620bdc2@mail.gmail.com> <4B32C081.2060509@redhat.com> <50baabb30912232237j7d7a0bb2wd5a918940a833ee@mail.gmail.com> <4B3324A7.8040104@redhat.com> <4B332FE3.4080205@internexusconnect.net> <50baabb30912241643m3e4979aaw692a44e2f9350a8d@mail.gmail.com> <79fa0d5a0912282129k896c8aag1def2e05089c1e79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B399672.10709@gmail.com> On 12/29/2009 10:59 AM, W.H. Kalpa Pathum wrote: > 2009/12/29 David Ramsey : > >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Greetings. :) >> >> ================================================= >> >> I like this "Fedora 12 one page release notes" - >> >> A very professional looking page. :) >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes >> >> > this is great > >> ================================================= >> >> I like the Fedora 12 'Constantine' "F12 release slogan" - >> >> Unite. :) >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_release_slogan >> >> ================================================= >> >> I have made an update for Fedora 13 "Goddard" - >> >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Release_deliverables >> >> for the "F13 release slogan" - >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_slogan >> >> ================================================= >> >> Please have a great day! :~) >> >> Thank You >> Sincerely >> =-=-=-=-= >> - David - >> =-=-=-=-= >> David Ramsey >> --------------------------------- >> ???? >> ???????? >> One stone; two birds. >> To kill 2 birds with 1 stone. >> --------------------------------- >> = >> Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey >> * Three dual core systems with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 12 (Constantine) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686.PAE >> * One dual core system with 3.0 GB running the Fedora 13 kernel - 2.6.32.2-15.fc13.i686.PAE >> With eight (8) x86_64 computing cores, 16 GB of RAM and two SATA Seagate 7200.12 500 GB harddisks. >> = >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > Its perfect .... well done -- Jatin Khatri Web www.khatrijatin.co.nr www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jatin Phone (+91) 98250 20393 Save Paper, Save Environment.** /*(Plant at least one tree in your life and nurture it !!!)*/ From pcalarco at nd.edu Tue Dec 29 15:37:33 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:37:33 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Brand Fuel Baseball Cap manufacturer In-Reply-To: <200912281624.24366.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200912272056.46729.ry@n.rix.si> <200912281624.24366.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4B3A223D.1070406@nd.edu> On 12/28/2009 10:24 AM, Joerg Simon wrote: > On Monday 28 December 2009 04:56:40 Ryan Rix wrote: >> Hey Max, all, >> Ambassadors were discussing in IRC about ordering some Fedora embroidered >> baseball caps for event swag, and the general consensus was that the Brand >> Fuel caps were really nice, and it would be cool if we could get them >> ordered from their manufacturer. > > Brand Fuel is the RedHat Vendor, in the past other vendors could provide > better prices. > >> Do you (Max) or anyone on either marketing or ambassadors have any details >> on the manufacturer that Brand Fuel uses and how we could get in contact >> with them? > > Not for Brand Fuel - but maybe it is a good idea to ask the vendors listed > here: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Swag_vendors > > As far as i know Pascal Calarco took care for stiched fedora-polos in North > America - if the vendor has already a stich-card, it can be a cheaper > alternative to produce the caps by this vendor - just ask Pascal. Hi all -- Do we have SVG art that we want to use for this already? If so, I can forward this to the folks who did the Ambassadors polos to get a quote on the caps. Screen Printed Products does do embroidery, and they do produce baseball caps[1] [1] http://www.screenprintedproducts.com/Embroidery.html - pascal > cu Joerg From inode0 at gmail.com Tue Dec 29 15:46:13 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:46:13 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Brand Fuel Baseball Cap manufacturer In-Reply-To: <4B3A223D.1070406@nd.edu> References: <200912272056.46729.ry@n.rix.si> <200912281624.24366.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <4B3A223D.1070406@nd.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Pascal Calarco wrote: > Screen Printed Products does do embroidery, and they do produce baseball > caps[1] > > [1] http://www.screenprintedproducts.com/Embroidery.html Oh wow, they do miniature hockey sticks. Now I want a Fedora hockey stick to, well, I don't know to do what with exactly! John From ry at n.rix.si Tue Dec 29 16:37:06 2009 From: ry at n.rix.si (Ryan Rix) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:37:06 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Brand Fuel Baseball Cap manufacturer In-Reply-To: References: <200912272056.46729.ry@n.rix.si> <4B3A223D.1070406@nd.edu> Message-ID: <200912290937.18752.ry@n.rix.si> On Tue 29 December 2009 8:46:13 am inode0 wrote: > Now I want a Fedora hockey stick to, well, I don't know to do what with > exactly! Who cares, it's freaking cool! :) I'm not sure who has SVGs or anything. I guess I can make one up, but I don't have a scale-able version of Bryant2 or whichever font the logo uses... Someone should probably whip up the SVGs if no one else has them already. 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On 12/29/09, Jean-Francois Saucier wrote: > Hi everybody, > > After a discussion with lcafiero yesterday on #fedora-ambassadors, I > want to know if anyone plan to attend COSSFEST 2010 > ( http://www.cossfest.ca/ ) in Calgary this year? > > It would be a good thing if we can setup something there. > > > Anyone interested? > > -- > Jean-Francois Saucier (djf_jeff) > GPG key : 0xA9E6E953 > From three at threethirty.us Thu Dec 31 02:25:43 2009 From: three at threethirty.us (three at threethirty.us) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:25:43 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hello all Message-ID: <20091230192543.75617078d840fa9b604fb76173ae1e2a.3713d713a5.wbe@email.secureserver.net> I have been lurking here for a couple of weeks but don't remember if I introduced myself... I am Justin O'Brien but most people know me as threethirty. I'm a recent Fedora convert, but I have been using GNU+Linux for almost a decade now. I don't know what all you want to know so ill try to keep this brief. Im a: Programming Student FSF member EFF member Fedora Ambassador in training [I'm one of Nally's people so blame him :)] fedora-legal lurker Podcaster also I run a Free Software/Free Culture thinktank called NumberedHumanIndustires or [NHI], its half LUG, half hackerspace, and half way to get business discounts I don't really deserve. If you want to chat outside of this mailinglist try these: Identi.ca./twitter/jaiku: threethirty threethirty at pygowave threethirty6801 at googlewave.com irc.freenode.net: threethirty I'm usually around but if not stick around I'll hop back on. Justin "threethirty" O'Brien Community Advocate http://numberedhumanindustries.com @threethirty - twitter/identi.ca/jaiku Phone: (765) 688-0723 ------------------------------------------------------------- From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Thu Dec 31 11:21:05 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:51:05 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Food for thought. Should we rethink out join page? Message-ID: [x-post - apologies] Do we need to rethink? http://www.mozilla.org/contribute/?utm_source=gsnippet&utm_content=mofo1&utm_campaign=s100509 -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 31 12:50:19 2009 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:50:19 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Food for thought. Should we rethink out join page? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2d319b780912310450n25944e11y6c7758f22d017b44@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:21, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > [x-post - apologies] > > Do we need to rethink? > > http://www.mozilla.org/contribute/?utm_source=gsnippet&utm_content=mofo1&utm_campaign=s100509 I like our current join page for several reasons : - it focuses on people/roles - the pictures are realy expressive - you're not overwhelmed by a lot of text, but you can find the informations if you click on the buttons (whereas on the Mozilla page, it feels like you have to read all of this before you can choose what to do) However, there's something I really like in the Mozilla page. Mozilla: You can build a better Internet by getting involved with Mozilla. Fedora: If you want to take an active hand in making Fedora even better,... The Mozilla one makes me think that if I join, I can be a part of something bigger than just Mozilla. I'm not contributing to improve Mozilla's products, I'm contributing to improve the Internet. We could find something like that. Fedora is about innovation in FOSS, right ? Instead of asking people to join and "help making Fedora even better", why don't we ask people to join and "define the future of our computing experience" ? (or something better phrased, english not being my native language,...) Also, the "browse by time available" is a rather nice idea. It helps focusing people who can contribute very few time. This way, instead of saying "I don't have enough time", they can actually find something to do (which might later lead them to do more) Good catch Susmit :) ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) From sspreitzer at fedoraproject.org Thu Dec 31 15:49:24 2009 From: sspreitzer at fedoraproject.org (Sascha Thomas Spreitzer) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:49:24 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Food for thought. Should we rethink out join page? In-Reply-To: <2d319b780912310450n25944e11y6c7758f22d017b44@mail.gmail.com> References: <2d319b780912310450n25944e11y6c7758f22d017b44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: "Fedora. Rendering future of technology. Free technology, property of us all." 2009/12/31 Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) : > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:21, susmit shannigrahi > wrote: >> [x-post - apologies] >> >> Do we need to rethink? >> >> http://www.mozilla.org/contribute/?utm_source=gsnippet&utm_content=mofo1&utm_campaign=s100509 > > I like our current join page for several reasons : > - it focuses on people/roles > - the pictures are realy expressive > - you're not overwhelmed by a lot of text, but you can find the > informations if you click on the buttons (whereas on the Mozilla page, > it feels like you have to read all of this before you can choose what > to do) > > However, there's something I really like in the Mozilla page. > > Mozilla: > ?You can build a better Internet by getting involved with Mozilla. > > Fedora: > ?If you want to take an active hand in making Fedora even better,... > > The Mozilla one makes me think that if I join, I can be a part of > something bigger than just Mozilla. I'm not contributing to improve > Mozilla's products, I'm contributing to improve the Internet. We could > find something like that. Fedora is about innovation in FOSS, right ? > Instead of asking people to join and "help making Fedora even better", > why don't we ask people to join and "define the future of our > computing experience" ? (or something better phrased, english not > being my native language,...) > > Also, the "browse by time available" is a rather nice idea. It helps > focusing people who can contribute very few time. This way, instead of > saying "I don't have enough time", they can actually find something to > do (which might later lead them to do more) > > Good catch Susmit :) > > > ---------- > > Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Mit freundlichen Gr??en, / with kind regards, Sascha Thomas Spreitzer http://spreitzer.name/ From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Dec 30 03:03:30 2009 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn?= Duffy) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:03:30 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Brand Fuel Baseball Cap manufacturer In-Reply-To: <4B3A223D.1070406@nd.edu> References: <200912272056.46729.ry@n.rix.si> <200912281624.24366.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <4B3A223D.1070406@nd.edu> Message-ID: <1262142210.2106.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 10:37 -0500, Pascal Calarco wrote: > Screen Printed Products does do embroidery, and they do produce baseball > caps[1] > > [1] http://www.screenprintedproducts.com/Embroidery.html FWIW RC Silk is a Boston-area screen printer that also does amazing embroidery work. I've toured their facilities before, and had some embroidered Spacewalk ball caps done with them and was very impressed with their work. We've also had them produce the Boston FUDcon shirts the past couple of years (and I've worked with them on other Red Hat shirts as well) and they always come out great and have the most competitive prices. http://www.rcsilk.com/ I would advise getting a quote with them just because their prices do tend to be very competitive and the work is top-notch. ~m