[Ambassadors] The 4f-problematic of Fedora.

Paul W. Frields stickster at gmail.com
Fri Dec 18 13:25:06 UTC 2009


On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:27:56AM +0100, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote:
> > 2009/12/18, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) <bochecha at fedoraproject.org>:
> >> IIRC, the problem with the FSF was about the Fedora trademark and logo
> >> that are not free.
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreeSoftwareAnalysis/FSF
> > no we ship firmware binaries in the kernel package!
> 
> I thought this had changed with Fedora 10, when we split those binary
> firmwares to the kernel-firmware package. Of course, it is installed
> by default, but at least now you can remove it. And that's a first
> step towards eliminating them all together.
> 
> Anyway, that doesn't change my main point: we don't necessarily
> succeed in fulfilling those 4 foundations. They are nevertheless our
> foundations, what we believe in, and what we try to achieve.

I think Mathieu and some other people are pointing at the same general
concept correctly.  The Foundations are intended to be *core values*,
meaning they represent the things that are important to us as a
Project.  We share these values, and we strive to make them part of
everything we do.  And where we find we could improve, we try to do
so.  The core values, in some cases, are similar to other projects; in
others, they differentiate us.  Both are a good thing and help to keep
Fedora not only relevant but special.

Having these core values written down is very important for us as a
project, because they represent the things we need to agree on as a
community to make progress.  For example, if someone doesn't believe
the concept of friends -- sharing values and working constructively
together -- is important, it's likely that person won't be able to
enjoy time spent in the Fedora Project.  So these core values also
provide a way for people to judge whether the Fedora Project is the
place for them to spend their time as a volunteer.

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