[Ambassadors] The 4f-problematic of Fedora.

Kellermam krsloco at gmail.com
Fri Dec 18 12:29:37 UTC 2009


I think some equal Maria Leandro, fedora is really free, it's thinking  
in user, sorry for mybad english, I dont speak this language.

Kellerman Rivero
Fedora Ambassador
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El 18/12/2009, a las 08:14 a.m., María Leandro  
<tatica at fedoraproject.org> escribió:

> Hello, this is my point of view of 4-foundations:
>
> 2009/12/18 Josephine Tannhäuser <josephine.tannhauser at googlemail.com>
> Hi all,
>
> I have some problems with the definitions of the 4f's.
>
> friends - this is a clear thing , we are all friends, the world is
> pink and there are no conflicts (until proven otherwise)
>
>  We not only share a common environment, we also share experiences,  
> meals, chats and sometimes some users are family or make their best  
> friends around community (this is my particular case)
>
>
> features - is a clear thing to, fedora is a distribution huge amount
> of features (perhaps not enough features ;-) we need more).
>
> We are always improving, if you see other distros packages, you will  
> see that many times they have old versions while we have *almost  
> always* the most new software.
>
>
> first - there is my first problem. This is like a racing duel with
> other distributions. We can not win on all sectors. This is more a
> destination, our goal.... We WANT to be the first, but we are not
> always the first.
>
> I think this is not only about the environment. If you check our  
> developers list, artwork, translations, package and go on; you'll  
> find also people who leads Free/libre Software around the world. Be  
> first is not only be at top of some ranking, is also be first as a  
> profetional, community and team.
>
>
> freedom - This one is my biggest problem. What's the definition of  
> freedom?
> The definition of freedom, which was definied by the FSF, formed the
> understanding of freedom in the whole world. And the FSF (Richard
> Stallman himself) said, that fedora is not free. So what's the current
> understanding of freedom in the fedoraproject?
> I haven't found arguments to discuss with someone about it.
>
> Freedom is related to something like this "we have both packages  
> (free/libres and some non-free/libres)" *you are free to choose  
> because is your computer*.
>
> FSF philosophy is not about "let the user choose", is more like "we  
> choose what you can and can not use". Fedora let the choice to the  
> user... that's what *freedom* really means.
>
>
>
> Merry Christmas :)
>
>
>
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