[Ambassadors] inactive ambassadors, a proposed solution

jose manimala josemanimala at gmail.com
Sun Feb 22 16:38:53 UTC 2009


+1 to that... Great idea max... But shouldn't there be some process or
procedures that need to be put in place?

Jose M Manimala
2009/2/22 Foxhaund <foxhaund at gmail.com>

> Max, as for me: i have an account in FAS, i have a personal page in
> Fedora-Wiki, but i write to the fedora-list very seldom, but i always
> reading it.
>
> Am i inactive?
>
> I prefer to work with people to sitting in the mailing list and discussing
> questions.
>
> But, of course i agree with you.
>
>
> 19.02.2009, в 14:34, Max Spevack написал(а):
>
>
>  The purpose of this email is to try to lay out a roadmap for solving, once
>> and for all, the question of inactive Fedora Ambassadors.
>>
>> GOALS OF IDENTIFYING INACTIVE AMBASSADORS:
>>
>> (1) Housekeeping.  All projects need to have their membership rosters
>> pruned from time to time.  In Ambassadors, this is particularly important
>> because non-Fedora people might get in touch with Ambassadors, and if they
>> don't receive a response, it looks like Fedora is ignorning them.  Other
>> sub-projects for which identifying inactive ambassadors are crucial is
>> packaging.  If someone drops off the face of the earth, their packages need
>> to be given to a new owner.
>>
>> Pages that need to a "refresh" policy:
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList <-- I argue that
>> CountryList is the wrong name for this page, and it should be called
>> Directory.
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Count <-- why do we even need
>> this page?  Doesn't the CountryList page serve the same purpose?
>>
>> How often are these pages currently updated?  Is the process manual or
>> automated, or a mixture of both?
>>
>>
>> (2) Give a more prominent location to the "list of ambassadors per
>> country".  That page should be the most visited page in all of Fedora
>> Ambassadors.  People who are trying to find out about Fedora should be
>> visiting it, and Ambassadors who are looking for other Fedora folks near
>> them should be visiting it.
>>
>> We should have something on fedoraproject.org that says "are you
>> interested in Fedora?  Find a Fedora Ambassador near you to give you some
>> information" and you type in your location, and it spits back a list of
>> Ambassadors near you.
>>
>>
>> (3) In order for any of (2) to be successful, we need to make sure that
>> the people who are listed as Ambassadors are actually paying attention to
>> the Ambassadors part of Fedora.  If someone is not, it doesn't mean that
>> they are a bad person -- it just means that they don't want to have to deal
>> with organizing events or asking questions from newbies to the project.
>>
>> I wouldn't be offended if someone removed me from the Fedora
>> Infrastructure group in FAS, because *I DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH FEDORA
>> INFRASTRUCTURE*.  It doesn't mean I'm a bad person or not a Fedora
>> contributor, it just means that I don't participate in that part of Fedora.
>>
>>
>> HOW DO WE IDENTIFY ACTIVE AMBASSADORS?
>>
>> We come up with a policy that is simple, and fair.
>>
>> An active ambassador is someone who:
>>
>> 1) Has joined the group in FAS.
>> 2) Reads and/or posts on fedora-ambassadors-list.
>> 3) Has a useful, up-to-date personal page on the Fedora wiki.
>>
>> And does one or more of:
>>
>> * Attends or organizes an event once in a release cycle.
>> * Maintains a blog on Planet Fedora, with about one post per month.
>> * Participates on fedora-list or fedoraforum.org to help people w/
>> questions.
>> * Indicates their willingness to mentor and guide new contributors or new
>> users.
>>
>>
>> WHAT DO WE DO WITH INACTIVE AMBASSADORS?
>>
>> If someone is inactive, we *DO NOT* kick them out of the ambassadors group
>> in FAS, and we *DO NOT* remove them from fedora-ambassadors list.
>>
>> But we should remove them from the "directory of Ambassadors sorted by
>> country", which I argue again needs to be much more visible and useful, so
>> that those inactive Ambassadors aren't being asked to do public-facing
>> things.
>>
>> When someone re-surfaces or has more time for Ambassadors, we put them
>> back on the directory.
>>
>> ==================
>>
>> Flame me.
>>
>> --Max
>>
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