[Ambassadors] inactive ambassadors, a proposed solution

Jason Benedict Low jbenedictlow at gmail.com
Thu Feb 19 18:09:19 UTC 2009


Max Spevack wrote:
> The purpose of this email is to try to lay out a roadmap for solving, 
> once and for all, the question of inactive Fedora Ambassadors.
> (1) Housekeeping.  All projects need to have their membership rosters 
> pruned from time to time.  In Ambassadors, this is particularly 
> important because non-Fedora people might get in touch with 
> Ambassadors, and if they don't receive a response, it looks like 
> Fedora is ignorning them.  Other sub-projects for which identifying 
> inactive ambassadors are crucial is packaging.  If someone drops off 
> the face of the earth, their packages need to be given to a new owner.
> Pages that need to a "refresh" policy:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList <-- I argue 
> that CountryList is the wrong name for this page, and it should be 
> called Directory.
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Count <-- why do we even 
> need this page?  Doesn't the CountryList page serve the same purpose?
> How often are these pages currently updated?  Is the process manual or 
> automated, or a mixture of both?
> (2) Give a more prominent location to the "list of ambassadors per 
> country".  That page should be the most visited page in all of Fedora 
> Ambassadors.  People who are trying to find out about Fedora should be 
> visiting it, and Ambassadors who are looking for other Fedora folks 
> near them should be visiting it.
> We should have something on fedoraproject.org that says "are you 
> interested in Fedora?  Find a Fedora Ambassador near you to give you 
> some information" and you type in your location, and it spits back a 
> list of Ambassadors near you.
> (3) In order for any of (2) to be successful, we need to make sure 
> that the people who are listed as Ambassadors are actually paying 
> attention to the Ambassadors part of Fedora.  If someone is not, it 
> doesn't mean that they are a bad person -- it just means that they 
> don't want to have to deal with organizing events or asking questions 
> from newbies to the project.
> I wouldn't be offended if someone removed me from the Fedora 
> Infrastructure group in FAS, because *I DON'T DO ANYTHING WITH FEDORA 
> INFRASTRUCTURE*.  It doesn't mean I'm a bad person or not a Fedora 
> contributor, it just means that I don't participate in that part of 
> Fedora.
> We come up with a policy that is simple, and fair.
> An active ambassador is someone who:
> 1) Has joined the group in FAS.
> 2) Reads and/or posts on fedora-ambassadors-list.
> 3) Has a useful, up-to-date personal page on the Fedora wiki.
> And does one or more of:
> * Attends or organizes an event once in a release cycle.
> * Maintains a blog on Planet Fedora, with about one post per month.
> * Participates on fedora-list or fedoraforum.org to help people w/ 
> questions.
> * Indicates their willingness to mentor and guide new contributors or 
> new users.
> If someone is inactive, we *DO NOT* kick them out of the ambassadors 
> group in FAS, and we *DO NOT* remove them from fedora-ambassadors list.
> But we should remove them from the "directory of Ambassadors sorted by 
> country", which I argue again needs to be much more visible and 
> useful, so that those inactive Ambassadors aren't being asked to do 
> public-facing things.
> When someone re-surfaces or has more time for Ambassadors, we put them 
> back on the directory.
> ==================
> Flame me.
> --Max
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