From randika at randika.com Thu Jan 1 12:50:22 2009 From: randika at randika.com (Randika Rathugama) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 18:20:22 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 How To In-Reply-To: References: <78323d480812310633n50ff31c1o4f52e4ad3ea5a5e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, This is an admirable work. it's well documented. I don't know how to speak or read in Spanish. but I read the whole doc using the google translator. Those who happy to translate it to English can do the same. for a an example see how the first page looks like once translated. Please click the link below. Thanks. Randika Rathugama (Sri Lanka) =============================================================================================== http://translate.google.com/translate_t#es|en|Fedora%2010%3A%20Parte%20I%20(Preinstalaci%C3%B3n)%0AAntes%20de%20instalar%20Fedora%20debe%20preparar%20su%20PC%20y%20los%20recursos%20que%20va%20a%20utilizar.%0ANo%20est%C3%A1%20de%20m%C3%A1s%2C%20verificar%20que%20su%20PC%20cumple%20con%20los%20requerimientos%20m%C3%ADnimos%20para%20ejecutar%0AFedora%2C%20adem%C3%A1s%20es%20buena%20idea%2C%20si%20se%20tiene%20dudas%20acerca%20de%20su%20hardware%20revisar%20la%20lista%20de%0Alos%20dispositivos%20soportados.%0ALos%20requerimientos%20m%C3%ADnimos%20son%3A%0A%EF%81%AC%20Procesador%20Intel%20Pentium%20o%20Celeron%20a%20500%20Mhz%20o%20equivalente.%0A%EF%81%AC%20256MB%20en%20memoria%20RAM%0A%EF%81%AC%20Disco%20duro%20con%2010GB%20de%20espacio%20libre.%0A%EF%81%AC%20Tarjetas%20de%20Sonido%20y%20video.%0A%EF%81%AC%20Conexi%C3%B3n%20a%20Internet.%0AAlgunas%20personas%20afirman%20que%20Fedora%20y%20en%20general%20cualquier%20otra%20distribuci%C3%B3n%20de%20Linux%0Apueden%20funcionar%20con%20especificaciones%20inferiores%2C%20y%20es%20cierto%2C%20sin%20embargo%2C%20como%20PC%20casero%20y%0Areemplazo%20de%20Windows%20en%20el%20escritorio%20es%20conveniente%20tener%20un%20PC%20modestamente%20r%C3%A1pido%0Apara%20sacar%20el%20mejor%20provecho%20a%20Fedora.%0AAhora%20es%20preciso%20descargar%20las%20im%C3%A1genes%20de%20instalaci%C3%B3n%20de%20Fedora.%20Est%C3%A1%20disponible%20una%0Aimagen%20(LiveCD%20%C3%B3%20Medio%20vivo)%20que%20usted%20encontrar%C3%A1%20en%20dos%20versiones%3A%20Gnome%20%C3%B3%20KDE%20de%0Aacuerdo%20al%20escritorio%20de%20su%20preferencia . =============================================================================================== 2008/12/31 Santosh Kumar > Hi all > I'd love to work on the translation. Does anyone have any objections? > > Santosh > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Santosh > > > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Mani A wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >> 2008/12/20 Diego Escobar wrote: >> >> > >> > Hi all: >> > >> > Now, it's avaible a little "how to" for Fedora 10 named "Aprende Fedora >> 10" >> > (Learning Fedora 10). This guide is designed for new Linux and Fedora >> user's >> > and its part of spread Fedora on Latam and spanish speakers people (its >> in >> > Spanish ;) ). Installation, productivity, instant messaging until >> > customization are convered on easy way. >> > >> > If you consider useful you can download it: >> > http://suservidorwp.googlepages.com/AprendeFedora10.pdf >> >> Nice work. >> >> Please try to use persistent internal links within the document. >> >> The image with partitions is just bad. ntfs--90+GB and / --20Gb. >> please use a better image with plenty of Linux partitions and bigger / >> (you can reduce the ntfs one to 9GB or just remove it). It sends the >> wrong messages. >> >> Best >> >> A. Mani >> >> >> -- >> A. Mani >> Member, Cal. Math. Soc >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) >> >> iD8DBQFJW4RvoIK4BlImohYRArlaAJ9p73m2+ao0xQdgLiHm+GfFW4qHgwCdGawC >> xL6bpBdJC2Rp3BYzeuaTWoY= >> =65Hy >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > > -- > Santosh Kumar > > > **************** CAUTION - Disclaimer > ************ > This e-mail contains PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION intended > solely for the use of the addressee(s). If you are not the intended > recipient, please notify the sender by e-mail and delete the original > message. Further, you are not to copy, disclose, or distribute this e-mail > or its contents to any other person and any such actions are unlawful. This > e-mail may contain viruses. 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URL: From danishka at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 13:03:47 2009 From: danishka at gmail.com (Danishka Navin) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 18:33:47 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 How To In-Reply-To: References: <78323d480812310633n50ff31c1o4f52e4ad3ea5a5e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <495CBF33.3000805@gmail.com> Randika, Lets translate in to Sinhala, once finished the proof read for en_US. Danishka Randika Rathugama wrote: > Hi, > > This is an admirable work. it's well documented. I don't know how to > speak or read in Spanish. but I read the whole doc using the google > translator. Those who happy to translate it to English can do the same. > > for a an example see how the first page looks like once translated. > Please click the link below. > > Thanks. > Randika Rathugama (Sri Lanka) > > =============================================================================================== > > http://translate.google.com/translate_t#es|en|Fedora%2010%3A%20Parte%20I%20(Preinstalaci%C3%B3n)%0AAntes%20de%20instalar%20Fedora%20debe%20preparar%20su%20PC%20y%20los%20recursos%20que%20va%20a%20utilizar.%0ANo%20est%C3%A1%20de%20m%C3%A1s%2C%20verificar%20que%20su%20PC%20cumple%20con%20los%20requerimientos%20m%C3%ADnimos%20para%20ejecutar%0AFedora%2C%20adem%C3%A1s%20es%20buena%20idea%2C%20si%20se%20tiene%20dudas%20acerca%20de%20su%20hardware%20revisar%20la%20lista%20de%0Alos%20dispositivos%20soportados.%0ALos%20requerimientos%20m%C3%ADnimos%20son%3A%0A%EF%81%AC%20Procesador%20Intel%20Pentium%20o%20Celeron%20a%20500%20Mhz%20o%20equivalente.%0A%EF%81%AC%20256MB%20en%20memoria%20RAM%0A%EF%81%AC%20Disco%20duro%20con%2010GB%20de%20espacio%20libre.%0A%EF%81%AC%20Tarjetas%20de%20Sonido%20y%20video.%0A%EF%81%AC%20Conexi%C3%B3n%20a%20Internet.%0AAlgunas%20personas%20afirman%20que%20Fedora%20y%20en%20general%20cualquier%20otra%20distribuci%C3%B3n%20de%20Linux%0Apueden%20funcionar%20con%20especificaciones%20inferiores%2C%20y%20es%20cierto%2C%20sin%20embargo%2C%20como%20PC%20casero%20y%0Areemplazo%20de%20Windows%20en%20el%20escritorio%20es%20conveniente%20tener%20un%20PC%20modestamente%20r%C3%A1pido%0Apara%20sacar%20el%20mejor%20provecho%20a%20Fedora.%0AAhora%20es%20preciso%20descargar%20las%20im%C3%A1genes%20de%20instalaci%C3%B3n%20de%20Fedora.%20Est%C3%A1%20disponible%20una%0Aimagen%20(LiveCD%20%C3%B3%20Medio%20vivo)%20que%20usted%20encontrar%C3%A1%20en%20dos%20versiones%3A%20Gnome%20%C3%B3%20KDE%20de%0Aacuerdo%20al%20escritorio%20de%20su%20preferencia > . > > =============================================================================================== > > > 2008/12/31 Santosh Kumar > > > Hi all > I'd love to work on the translation. Does anyone have any > objections? > > Santosh > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Santosh > > > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Mani A > wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > 2008/12/20 Diego Escobar wrote: > > > > > Hi all: > > > > Now, it's avaible a little "how to" for Fedora 10 named > "Aprende Fedora 10" > > (Learning Fedora 10). This guide is designed for new Linux > and Fedora user's > > and its part of spread Fedora on Latam and spanish speakers > people (its in > > Spanish ;) ). Installation, productivity, instant messaging > until > > customization are convered on easy way. > > > > If you consider useful you can download it: > > http://suservidorwp.googlepages.com/AprendeFedora10.pdf > > Nice work. > > Please try to use persistent internal links within the document. > > The image with partitions is just bad. ntfs--90+GB and / --20Gb. > please use a better image with plenty of Linux partitions and > bigger / > (you can reduce the ntfs one to 9GB or just remove it). It > sends the > wrong messages. > > Best > > A. Mani > > > -- > A. Mani > Member, Cal. Math. Soc > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFJW4RvoIK4BlImohYRArlaAJ9p73m2+ao0xQdgLiHm+GfFW4qHgwCdGawC > xL6bpBdJC2Rp3BYzeuaTWoY= > =65Hy > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Santosh Kumar > > > **************** CAUTION - Disclaimer > ************ > This e-mail contains PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION > intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If you are not > the intended recipient, please notify the sender by e-mail and > delete the original message. Further, you are not to copy, > disclose, or distribute this e-mail or its contents to any other > person and any such actions are unlawful. This e-mail may contain > viruses. Every reasonable precaution to minimize this risk, but is > not liable for any damage you may sustain as a result of any virus > in this e-mail. You should carry out your own virus checks before > opening the e-mail or attachment. Author reserves the right to > monitor and review the content of all messages sent to or from > this e-mail address. Messages sent to or from this e-mail address > may be stored on the e-mail system permanently. > *************** End of Disclaimer > ************* > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Google Profile: > http://www.google.com/s2/profiles/118187211987918021584 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From randika at randika.com Thu Jan 1 13:08:48 2009 From: randika at randika.com (Randika Rathugama) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 18:38:48 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 How To In-Reply-To: <495CBF33.3000805@gmail.com> References: <78323d480812310633n50ff31c1o4f52e4ad3ea5a5e1@mail.gmail.com> <495CBF33.3000805@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yeah, but we should get the permission from the Author I think? On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Danishka Navin wrote: > Randika, > > Lets translate in to Sinhala, once finished the proof read for en_US. > > Danishka > > Randika Rathugama wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> This is an admirable work. it's well documented. I don't know how to speak >> or read in Spanish. but I read the whole doc using the google translator. >> Those who happy to translate it to English can do the same. >> >> for a an example see how the first page looks like once translated. Please >> click the link below. >> >> Thanks. >> Randika Rathugama (Sri Lanka) >> >> >> =============================================================================================== >> >> >> http://translate.google.com/translate_t#es|en|Fedora%2010%3A%20Parte%20I%20(Preinstalaci%C3%B3n)%0AAntes%20de%20instalar%20Fedora%20debe%20preparar%20su%20PC%20y%20los%20recursos%20que%20va%20a%20utilizar.%0ANo%20est%C3%A1%20de%20m%C3%A1s%2C%20verificar%20que%20su%20PC%20cumple%20con%20los%20requerimientos%20m%C3%ADnimos%20para%20ejecutar%0AFedora%2C%20adem%C3%A1s%20es%20buena%20idea%2C%20si%20se%20tiene%20dudas%20acerca%20de%20su%20hardware%20revisar%20la%20lista%20de%0Alos%20dispositivos%20soportados.%0ALos%20requerimientos%20m%C3%ADnimos%20son%3A%0A%EF%81%AC%20Procesador%20Intel%20Pentium%20o%20Celeron%20a%20500%20Mhz%20o%20equivalente.%0A%EF%81%AC%20256MB%20en%20memoria%20RAM%0A%EF%81%AC%20Disco%20duro%20con%2010GB%20de%20espacio%20libre.%0A%EF%81%AC%20Tarjetas%20de%20Sonido%20y%20video.%0A%EF%81%AC%20Conexi%C3%B3n%20a%20Internet.%0AAlgunas%20personas%20afirman%20que%20Fedora%20y%20en%20general%20cualquier%20otra%20distribuci%C3%B3n%20de%20Linux%0Apueden%20funcionar%20c >> > on%20especificaciones%20inferiores%2C%20y%20es%20cierto%2C%20sin%20embargo%2C%20como%20PC%20casero%20y%0Areemplazo%20de%20Windows%20en%20el%20escritorio%20es%20conveniente%20tener%20un%20PC%20modestamente%20r%C3%A1pido%0Apara%20sacar%20el%20mejor%20provecho%20a%20Fedora.%0AAhora%20es%20preciso%20descargar%20las%20im%C3%A1genes%20de%20instalaci%C3%B3n%20de%20Fedora.%20Est%C3%A1%20disponible%20una%0Aimagen%20(LiveCD%20%C3%B3%20Medio%20vivo)%20que%20usted%20encontrar%C3%A1%20en%20dos%20versiones%3A%20Gnome%20%C3%B3%20KDE%20de%0Aacuerdo%20al%20escritorio%20de%20su%20preferencia > > >> < >> http://translate.google.com/translate_t#es%7Cen%7CFedora%2010%3A%20Parte%20I%20%28Preinstalaci%C3%B3n%29%0AAntes%20de%20instalar%20Fedora%20debe%20preparar%20su%20PC%20y%20los%20recursos%20que%20va%20a%20utilizar.%0ANo%20est%C3%A1%20de%20m%C3%A1s%2C%20verificar%20que%20su%20PC%20cumple%20con%20los%20requerimientos%20m%C3%ADnimos%20para%20ejecutar%0AFedora%2C%20adem%C3%A1s%20es%20buena%20idea%2C%20si%20se%20tiene%20dudas%20acerca%20de%20su%20hardware%20revisar%20la%20lista%20de%0Alos%20dispositivos%20soportados.%0ALos%20requerimientos%20m%C3%ADnimos%20son%3A%0A%EF%81%AC%20Procesador%20Intel%20Pentium%20o%20Celeron%20a%20500%20Mhz%20o%20equivalente.%0A%EF%81%AC%20256MB%20en%20memoria%20RAM%0A%EF%81%AC%20Disco%20duro%20con%2010GB%20de%20espacio%20libre.%0A%EF%81%AC%20Tarjetas%20de%20Sonido%20y%20video.%0A%EF%81%AC%20Conexi%C3%B3n%20a%20Internet.%0AAlgunas%20personas%20afirman%20que%20Fedora%20y%20en%20general%20cualquier%20otra%20distribuci%C3%B3n%20de%20Linux%0Apueden%20func >> > > ionar%20con%20especificaciones%20inferiores%2C%20y%20es%20cierto%2C%20sin%20embargo%2C%20como%20PC%20casero%20y%0Areemplazo%20de%20Windows%20en%20el%20escritorio%20es%20conveniente%20tener%20un%20PC%20modestamente%20r%C3%A1pido%0Apara%20sacar%20el%20mejor%20provecho%20a%20Fedora.%0AAhora%20es%20preciso%20descargar%20las%20im%C3%A1genes%20de%20instalaci%C3%B3n%20de%20Fedora.%20Est%C3%A1%20disponible%20una%0Aimagen%20%28LiveCD%20%C3%B3%20Medio%20vivo%29%20que%20usted%20encontrar%C3%A1%20en%20dos%20versiones%3A%20Gnome%20%C3%B3%20KDE%20de%0Aacuerdo%20al%20escritorio%20de%20su%20preferencia>. > >> >> =============================================================================================== >> >> >> 2008/12/31 Santosh Kumar > santosh at fedoraproject.org>> >> >> Hi all >> I'd love to work on the translation. Does anyone have any >> objections? >> >> Santosh >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Santosh >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Mani A > > wrote: >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >> 2008/12/20 Diego Escobar wrote: >> >> > >> > Hi all: >> > >> > Now, it's avaible a little "how to" for Fedora 10 named >> "Aprende Fedora 10" >> > (Learning Fedora 10). This guide is designed for new Linux >> and Fedora user's >> > and its part of spread Fedora on Latam and spanish speakers >> people (its in >> > Spanish ;) ). Installation, productivity, instant messaging >> until >> > customization are convered on easy way. >> > >> > If you consider useful you can download it: >> > http://suservidorwp.googlepages.com/AprendeFedora10.pdf >> >> Nice work. >> >> Please try to use persistent internal links within the document. >> >> The image with partitions is just bad. ntfs--90+GB and / --20Gb. >> please use a better image with plenty of Linux partitions and >> bigger / >> (you can reduce the ntfs one to 9GB or just remove it). It >> sends the >> wrong messages. >> >> Best >> >> A. Mani >> >> >> -- >> A. Mani >> Member, Cal. Math. Soc >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) >> >> iD8DBQFJW4RvoIK4BlImohYRArlaAJ9p73m2+ao0xQdgLiHm+GfFW4qHgwCdGawC >> xL6bpBdJC2Rp3BYzeuaTWoY= >> =65Hy >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> >> >> -- Santosh Kumar >> >> >> **************** CAUTION - Disclaimer >> ************ >> This e-mail contains PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION >> intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If you are not >> the intended recipient, please notify the sender by e-mail and >> delete the original message. Further, you are not to copy, >> disclose, or distribute this e-mail or its contents to any other >> person and any such actions are unlawful. This e-mail may contain >> viruses. 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Installation, productivity, instant messaging until > customization are convered on easy way. > > If you consider useful you can download it: > http://suservidorwp.googlepages.com/AprendeFedora10.pdf > > Official Announce: > http://proyectofedora.org/colombia/manuales/%C2%A1aprende-fedora-10/ > > Suggestions are welcome. > > Regards! > > -- > Diego Escobar > Fedora Ambassador for Colombia > Fedora Release 9 (Sulphur): Linux Kernel 2.6.25 + Gnome 2.22 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Henrique "LonelySpooky" Junior http://www.lonelyspooky.com ------------------------------------------------------------- "In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?!" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dezone24 at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 16:30:09 2009 From: dezone24 at gmail.com (Diego Escobar) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:30:09 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 How To In-Reply-To: <4f629b520901010653l35bec189m671a0b04cb1bcfe4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4f629b520901010653l35bec189m671a0b04cb1bcfe4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi: On time more, thanks to everybody four your interesting in this little guide. By the way, remember you can translate it into wharever language you want and more, because I have published this guide under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation of the GNU General - FDL. Under presentation we have: "Note CopyLeft This document can be distributed and modified under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation of the GNU General - FDL. This manual is free software, you can modify and redistribute it under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation published by the Free Software Foundation, both in 1 as the version (at your option) any later version. This manual is distributed with the spirit of helping, but without any guarantee, even if the implicit or marketable to be fit for a particular purpose." The only thing what I can add, it's please tell us when a translated or updated version is ready. So we could distribuit it and translate it into more language for more people. Happy new year and Regards!!! 2009/1/1 Henrique Junior > It is a great initiative., Good job from the guys of Colombia. > > 2008/12/20 Diego Escobar > >> >> Hi all: >> >> Now, it's avaible a little "how to" for Fedora 10 named "Aprende Fedora >> 10" (Learning Fedora 10). This guide is designed for new Linux and Fedora >> user's and its part of spread Fedora on Latam and spanish speakers people >> (its in Spanish ;) ). Installation, productivity, instant messaging until >> customization are convered on easy way. >> >> If you consider useful you can download it: >> http://suservidorwp.googlepages.com/AprendeFedora10.pdf >> >> Official Announce: >> http://proyectofedora.org/colombia/manuales/%C2%A1aprende-fedora-10/ >> >> Suggestions are welcome. >> >> Regards! >> >> -- >> Diego Escobar >> Fedora Ambassador for Colombia >> Fedora Release 9 (Sulphur): Linux Kernel 2.6.25 + Gnome 2.22 >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > Henrique "LonelySpooky" Junior > http://www.lonelyspooky.com > ------------------------------------------------------------- > "In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?!" > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Diego Escobar Fedora Ambassador for Colombia Fedora Release 9 (Sulphur): Linux Kernel 2.6.25 + Gnome 2.22 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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By the way, remember you can translate it into wharever language you > want and more, because I have published this guide under the terms of the > GNU Free Documentation of the GNU General - FDL. > > Under presentation we have: > > "Note CopyLeft > This document can be distributed and modified under the terms of the GNU > Free > Documentation of the GNU General - FDL. > This manual is free software, you can modify and redistribute it under the > terms of the > GNU Free Documentation published by the Free Software Foundation, both in > 1 as the version (at your option) any later version. This manual is > distributed with > the spirit of helping, but without any guarantee, even if the implicit or > marketable > to be fit for a particular purpose." > > The only thing what I can add, it's please tell us when a translated or > updated version is ready. So we could distribuit it and translate it into > more language for more people. > > Happy new year and Regards!!! > > > 2009/1/1 Henrique Junior > > It is a great initiative., Good job from the guys of Colombia. >> >> 2008/12/20 Diego Escobar >> >>> >>> Hi all: >>> >>> Now, it's avaible a little "how to" for Fedora 10 named "Aprende Fedora >>> 10" (Learning Fedora 10). This guide is designed for new Linux and Fedora >>> user's and its part of spread Fedora on Latam and spanish speakers people >>> (its in Spanish ;) ). Installation, productivity, instant messaging until >>> customization are convered on easy way. >>> >>> If you consider useful you can download it: >>> http://suservidorwp.googlepages.com/AprendeFedora10.pdf >>> >>> Official Announce: >>> http://proyectofedora.org/colombia/manuales/%C2%A1aprende-fedora-10/ >>> >>> Suggestions are welcome. >>> >>> Regards! >>> >>> -- >>> Diego Escobar >>> Fedora Ambassador for Colombia >>> Fedora Release 9 (Sulphur): Linux Kernel 2.6.25 + Gnome 2.22 >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Henrique "LonelySpooky" Junior >> http://www.lonelyspooky.com >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> "In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?!" >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > -- > Diego Escobar > Fedora Ambassador for Colombia > Fedora Release 9 (Sulphur): Linux Kernel 2.6.25 + Gnome 2.22 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com (use Sinhala Unicode fonts) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Also it would then be implemented into Transifex and appear under : http://translate.fedoraproject.org > > Cheers! > -- > Prakhar Agarwal > Linux User# 474643 > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Prakhar > "Life is the greatest teacher" > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't know how to speak >> or read in Spanish. but I read the whole doc using the google translator. >> Those who happy to translate it to English can do the same. >> >> for a an example see how the first page looks like once translated. Please >> click the link below. >> >> Thanks. >> Randika Rathugama (Sri Lanka) >> >> >> =============================================================================================== >> >> >> http://translate.google.com/translate_t#es|en|Fedora%2010%3A%20Parte%20I%20(Preinstalaci%C3%B3n)%0AAntes%20de%20instalar%20Fedora%20debe%20preparar%20su%20PC%20y%20los%20recursos%20que%20va%20a%20utilizar.%0ANo%20est%C3%A1%20de%20m%C3%A1s%2C%20verificar%20que%20su%20PC%20cumple%20con%20los%20requerimientos%20m%C3%ADnimos%20para%20ejecutar%0AFedora%2C%20adem%C3%A1s%20es%20buena%20idea%2C%20si%20se%20tiene%20dudas%20acerca%20de%20su%20hardware%20revisar%20la%20lista%20de%0Alos%20dispositivos%20soportados.%0ALos%20requerimientos%20m%C3%ADnimos%20son%3A%0A%EF%81%AC%20Procesador%20Intel%20Pentium%20o%20Celeron%20a%20500%20Mhz%20o%20equivalente.%0A%EF%81%AC%20256MB%20en%20memoria%20RAM%0A%EF%81%AC%20Disco%20duro%20con%2010GB%20de%20espacio%20libre.%0A%EF%81%AC%20Tarjetas%20de%20Sonido%20y%20video.%0A%EF%81%AC%20Conexi%C3%B3n%20a%20Internet.%0AAlgunas%20personas%20afirman%20que%20Fedora%20y%20en%20general%20cualquier%20otra%20distribuci%C3%B3n%20de%20Linux%0Apueden%20funcionar%20c >> > on%20especificaciones%20inferiores%2C%20y%20es%20cierto%2C%20sin%20embargo%2C%20como%20PC%20casero%20y%0Areemplazo%20de%20Windows%20en%20el%20escritorio%20es%20conveniente%20tener%20un%20PC%20modestamente%20r%C3%A1pido%0Apara%20sacar%20el%20mejor%20provecho%20a%20Fedora.%0AAhora%20es%20preciso%20descargar%20las%20im%C3%A1genes%20de%20instalaci%C3%B3n%20de%20Fedora.%20Est%C3%A1%20disponible%20una%0Aimagen%20(LiveCD%20%C3%B3%20Medio%20vivo)%20que%20usted%20encontrar%C3%A1%20en%20dos%20versiones%3A%20Gnome%20%C3%B3%20KDE%20de%0Aacuerdo%20al%20escritorio%20de%20su%20preferencia > > >> < >> http://translate.google.com/translate_t#es%7Cen%7CFedora%2010%3A%20Parte%20I%20%28Preinstalaci%C3%B3n%29%0AAntes%20de%20instalar%20Fedora%20debe%20preparar%20su%20PC%20y%20los%20recursos%20que%20va%20a%20utilizar.%0ANo%20est%C3%A1%20de%20m%C3%A1s%2C%20verificar%20que%20su%20PC%20cumple%20con%20los%20requerimientos%20m%C3%ADnimos%20para%20ejecutar%0AFedora%2C%20adem%C3%A1s%20es%20buena%20idea%2C%20si%20se%20tiene%20dudas%20acerca%20de%20su%20hardware%20revisar%20la%20lista%20de%0Alos%20dispositivos%20soportados.%0ALos%20requerimientos%20m%C3%ADnimos%20son%3A%0A%EF%81%AC%20Procesador%20Intel%20Pentium%20o%20Celeron%20a%20500%20Mhz%20o%20equivalente.%0A%EF%81%AC%20256MB%20en%20memoria%20RAM%0A%EF%81%AC%20Disco%20duro%20con%2010GB%20de%20espacio%20libre.%0A%EF%81%AC%20Tarjetas%20de%20Sonido%20y%20video.%0A%EF%81%AC%20Conexi%C3%B3n%20a%20Internet.%0AAlgunas%20personas%20afirman%20que%20Fedora%20y%20en%20general%20cualquier%20otra%20distribuci%C3%B3n%20de%20Linux%0Apueden%20func >> > > ionar%20con%20especificaciones%20inferiores%2C%20y%20es%20cierto%2C%20sin%20embargo%2C%20como%20PC%20casero%20y%0Areemplazo%20de%20Windows%20en%20el%20escritorio%20es%20conveniente%20tener%20un%20PC%20modestamente%20r%C3%A1pido%0Apara%20sacar%20el%20mejor%20provecho%20a%20Fedora.%0AAhora%20es%20preciso%20descargar%20las%20im%C3%A1genes%20de%20instalaci%C3%B3n%20de%20Fedora.%20Est%C3%A1%20disponible%20una%0Aimagen%20%28LiveCD%20%C3%B3%20Medio%20vivo%29%20que%20usted%20encontrar%C3%A1%20en%20dos%20versiones%3A%20Gnome%20%C3%B3%20KDE%20de%0Aacuerdo%20al%20escritorio%20de%20su%20preferencia>. > >> >> =============================================================================================== >> >> >> 2008/12/31 Santosh Kumar > santosh at fedoraproject.org>> >> >> Hi all >> I'd love to work on the translation. Does anyone have any >> objections? >> >> Santosh >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Santosh >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Mani A > > wrote: >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >> 2008/12/20 Diego Escobar wrote: >> >> > >> > Hi all: >> > >> > Now, it's avaible a little "how to" for Fedora 10 named >> "Aprende Fedora 10" >> > (Learning Fedora 10). This guide is designed for new Linux >> and Fedora user's >> > and its part of spread Fedora on Latam and spanish speakers >> people (its in >> > Spanish ;) ). Installation, productivity, instant messaging >> until >> > customization are convered on easy way. >> > >> > If you consider useful you can download it: >> > http://suservidorwp.googlepages.com/AprendeFedora10.pdf >> >> Nice work. >> >> Please try to use persistent internal links within the document. >> >> The image with partitions is just bad. ntfs--90+GB and / --20Gb. >> please use a better image with plenty of Linux partitions and >> bigger / >> (you can reduce the ntfs one to 9GB or just remove it). It >> sends the >> wrong messages. >> >> Best >> >> A. Mani >> >> >> -- >> A. Mani >> Member, Cal. Math. Soc >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) >> >> iD8DBQFJW4RvoIK4BlImohYRArlaAJ9p73m2+ao0xQdgLiHm+GfFW4qHgwCdGawC >> xL6bpBdJC2Rp3BYzeuaTWoY= >> =65Hy >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> >> >> -- Santosh Kumar >> >> >> **************** CAUTION - Disclaimer >> ************ >> This e-mail contains PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION >> intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If you are not >> the intended recipient, please notify the sender by e-mail and >> delete the original message. Further, you are not to copy, >> disclose, or distribute this e-mail or its contents to any other >> person and any such actions are unlawful. This e-mail may contain >> viruses. 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Messages sent to or from this e-mail address >> may be stored on the e-mail system permanently. >> *************** End of Disclaimer >> ************* >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Google Profile: >> http://www.google.com/s2/profiles/118187211987918021584 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Google Profile: http://www.google.com/s2/profiles/118187211987918021584 -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From slasherzee at yahoo.com Fri Jan 2 07:35:17 2009 From: slasherzee at yahoo.com (Doug Berry) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 23:35:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Picture Book.... Message-ID: <808062.74424.qm@web63508.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Concerning the Fedora Picture Book.... I have heard from several dozen printers and publishers over the last several weeks. There are several things I would like to comment on: 1. Using a printer or print-run publisher would be unfeasible because we would have to store and ship books ourselves, to say nothing of mailing costs. 2. Using a POD Publisher, such a Lulu or iUniverse is probably the most readily available option, but it would be the most expensive. For instance, for a 130 page full color book, Lulu would charge $30.50 per book. Anything we make would be added on to that base cost. Most of the other top POD Publishers charge a set fee, such as BookSurge a $499.00 color book package. 3. Using the same POD publishers, if we went with a color cover but black and white interior, the price would drop substantially: Lulu - $8.75 per book after their setup fee. 4. The most economical option would be to go to the POD publishing source itself, which is Lightning Source. They are the printer/distributor for most of the POD Publishers, including Lulu. The drawback here is that we would have to commit to publishing more than one book. If we use Lightning Source the base cost for the full color book would be $6.80 per book. We could sell it for $14.00, not an unreasonable price and make over $7.00 a book. Our costs would be $144.00 up front for their set-up costs. As you can see, we would only have to sell a couple dozen books to recoup that cost. 5. Perhaps, if we used Lightning Source we could do a Picture Book for each Fedora Release. "The people of Fedora 11," then use the same event photos, but add pictures and bios of core developers, Red Hat people, other Project members, etc. I have created a breakdown of the whole process, with cost comparisons. Plus some ideas I had about adding new writers and perhaps artists if we go with some sort of publishing project. I will add links to these documents on the Picture Book wiki, asap. Here are the links if anyone is interested: http://www.scribd.com/doc/9668043/publishing http://www.scribd.com/doc/9669285/wiki What does anybody think? -- w Douglas Berry -- slasherzee at fedoraproject.org From ianweller at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 16:56:07 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:56:07 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Picture Book.... In-Reply-To: <808062.74424.qm@web63508.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <808062.74424.qm@web63508.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090102165606.GA3158@gmail.com> On Thu, Jan 01, 2009 at 11:35:17PM -0800, Doug Berry wrote: > 4. The most economical option would be to go to > the POD publishing source itself, which is Lightning > Source. They are the printer/distributor for > most of the POD Publishers, including Lulu. The > drawback here is that we would have to commit to > publishing more than one book. If we use Lightning > Source the base cost for the full color book would > be $6.80 per book. We could sell it for $14.00, not > an unreasonable price and make over $7.00 a book. Our > costs would be $144.00 up front for their set-up costs. > As you can see, we would only have to sell a couple > dozen books to recoup that cost. > > 5. Perhaps, if we used Lightning Source we could do > a Picture Book for each Fedora Release. "The people > of Fedora 11," then use the same event photos, but > add pictures and bios of core developers, Red Hat > people, other Project members, etc. > Hmm. We were thinking about doing four books right from the start, aligned with the four foundations -- "freedom, friends, features, first", since we're going to try and get pictures of *everybody* at FUDConF11 and fit most of them in somehow, plus pictures of people who couldn't make it, provided by themselves or whatever. In unrelated ventures: 1. I talked to spot about the release forms, he'll speak with RH Legal(tm)(R)(sm) about it. 2. Please don't use Scribd, it took me five minutes to register an account through OpenID just to download the file in a form that doesn't eat my browser alive :) You can just attach PDFs to your emails, I don't think the list scrubs them. I don't know about anyone else, but it seems like Lightning Source is the way to go... I would like to see what Paul thinks about all of this, so I'll bug him the next moment I see him on IRC. -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stickster at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 17:31:38 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:31:38 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Picture Book.... In-Reply-To: <20090102165606.GA3158@gmail.com> References: <808062.74424.qm@web63508.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <20090102165606.GA3158@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090102173138.GM6883@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 10:56:07AM -0600, Ian Weller wrote: > On Thu, Jan 01, 2009 at 11:35:17PM -0800, Doug Berry wrote: > > 4. The most economical option would be to go to > > the POD publishing source itself, which is Lightning > > Source. They are the printer/distributor for > > most of the POD Publishers, including Lulu. The > > drawback here is that we would have to commit to > > publishing more than one book. If we use Lightning > > Source the base cost for the full color book would > > be $6.80 per book. We could sell it for $14.00, not > > an unreasonable price and make over $7.00 a book. Our > > costs would be $144.00 up front for their set-up costs. > > As you can see, we would only have to sell a couple > > dozen books to recoup that cost. > > > > 5. Perhaps, if we used Lightning Source we could do > > a Picture Book for each Fedora Release. "The people > > of Fedora 11," then use the same event photos, but > > add pictures and bios of core developers, Red Hat > > people, other Project members, etc. > > > Hmm. We were thinking about doing four books right from the start, > aligned with the four foundations -- "freedom, friends, features, > first", since we're going to try and get pictures of *everybody* at > FUDConF11 and fit most of them in somehow, plus pictures of people who > couldn't make it, provided by themselves or whatever. > > In unrelated ventures: > 1. I talked to spot about the release forms, he'll speak with RH > Legal(tm)(R)(sm) about it. > 2. Please don't use Scribd, it took me five minutes to register an > account through OpenID just to download the file in a form that > doesn't eat my browser alive :) You can just attach PDFs to your > emails, I don't think the list scrubs them. Better than attaching PDFs to an email to thousands of people -- simply post it to your fedorapeople.org space. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedorapeople.org We should try wherever possible to distribute information using completely free and open source outlets. Your fedorapeople.org account is a great way to have large files available for fellow contributors to download without clogging those email arteries! (After all the holiday meals I appear to have artery clogging on the brain.) :-) > I don't know about anyone else, but it seems like Lightning Source is > the way to go... I would like to see what Paul thinks about all of this, > so I'll bug him the next moment I see him on IRC. I've been mostly avoiding IRC over the holiday to spend more time with my family during my break, but I'll be around more this weekend and definitely Monday. :-) It would behoove us to have someone serve as the lead for this project, have that person get pre-orders up front through whatever means work best (PayPal, for instance), and then use that money to pay for the up-front costs. I think that will be a good indicator of the demand for the book(s). It would be nice for people to be able to contribute other photos (and releases) for cases where they aren't at an event to be photographed. There is one large and lingering question, though, which is profit. We have no place for that profit to reside here in the USA, and probably won't for some time. Perhaps this project should be coordinated with Fedora EMEA so any profits can be devoted directly to furthering Fedora activities there. Or the proceeds could be donated to a worthy global nonprofit like the FSF. We'd need to make sure that no matter what we do with any money, the full accounting process is as transparent as possible. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From david at gnsa.us Fri Jan 2 19:44:59 2009 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:44:59 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] OSCON CFP Message-ID: OSCON CFP recently opened on and deadline is in just over a month (3 February 2009) Now is the time to get your presentations ready and submitted. From david at gnsa.us Fri Jan 2 19:45:40 2009 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:45:40 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: OSCON CFP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:44 PM, David Nalley wrote: > OSCON CFP recently opened on and deadline is in just over a month (3 > February 2009) > > Now is the time to get your presentations ready and submitted. > A link may have helped. http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2009/public/cfp/57 From ianweller at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 22:22:17 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:22:17 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Picture Book.... In-Reply-To: <20090102173138.GM6883@localhost.localdomain> References: <808062.74424.qm@web63508.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <20090102165606.GA3158@gmail.com> <20090102173138.GM6883@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090102222217.GA14141@gmail.com> On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 12:31:38PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Better than attaching PDFs to an email to thousands of people -- > simply post it to your fedorapeople.org space. > But of course... I forgot! :D > It would behoove us to have someone serve as the lead for > this project, have that person get pre-orders up front through > whatever means work best (PayPal, for instance), and then use that > money to pay for the up-front costs. I think that will be a good > indicator of the demand for the book(s). > This seems like the correct thing to do. > It would be nice for people to be able to contribute other photos (and > releases) for cases where they aren't at an event to be photographed. > Of course. :) The big question, however, is where do we store the photos? Flickr's group setup seems to be the easiest way for both us and those submitting photos. Alternatives include fedorapeople.org, or setting up gallery software on Fedora's/somebody's infrastructure that could contain high quality photos. > There is one large and lingering question, though, which is profit. > We have no place for that profit to reside here in the USA, and > probably won't for some time. Perhaps this project should be > coordinated with Fedora EMEA so any profits can be devoted directly to > furthering Fedora activities there. Or the proceeds could be donated > to a worthy global nonprofit like the FSF. We'd need to make sure > that no matter what we do with any money, the full accounting process > is as transparent as possible. > (Or OLPC? :P) Can the profit be added to budgets for Ambassadors events or whatnot? Or does that still hit the "not in the USA" thing? (And what exactly is causing that? I'm quite curious.) -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Sat Jan 3 10:44:14 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 11:44:14 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: OSCON CFP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, David Nalley wrote: > A link may have helped. > > http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2009/public/cfp/57 I'd like to see Jack and/or Karsten work together with the NA Ambassadors to figure out what the Fedora presence, talks, etc. for OSCON should look like. I don't want to just do a booth -- I'd like to see us submit 3 or 4 talks, and have a really nice presence. This is the first major event in Silicon Valley in quite a while, and I want us looking good in front of all the west coast tech companies. >From a budget perspective, this will be in Q2 of FY10 (July 2009), and it will also be after F11, so we'll make sure that we have proper swag and materials well in advance. --Max From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Sat Jan 3 12:12:59 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:12:59 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Message-ID: <200901031312.59565.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear Ambassadors, let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Elquintu from Cuenca, Ecuador https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rtnpro from Durgapur, India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jsmidt from Irvine, USA Regards Joerg p.s. 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URL: From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Sat Jan 3 15:01:09 2009 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:01:09 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Brazil Magazine #4 released In-Reply-To: <4f629b520812310640t53aa4c81g883346ad03484ac0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4f629b520812310640t53aa4c81g883346ad03484ac0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090103160109.2e11c6ab@mrtomlinux.org> Le Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:40:13 -0200, "Henrique Junior" a ?crit : > To end 2008 with a cherry on top, the Fedora Project is glad to > announce the release of the 4th issue of Fedora Brazil Magazine. This > issue brings a editorial written by Augusto Campos, who draws a > retrospective review of Fedora's 5 years and he presents a picture of > how it changed the Linux Distributions ecosystem after Fedora's first > release announcement. Furthermore, the magazine displays a special > approach to the brand new Fedora 10, presenting it in a clearly and > simply way all new features and changes of this new release. Enjoy > yourself and take part of Fedora Brazil Magazine's promotion and > compete for a copy of the book "*Java ? Fundamentos, pr?tica & > certifica??o*", by Adilson Bonanovisk. > > Shell script classes continues. There is also a stroll through SELinux > mysteries, headshots in Urban Terror game and an unfailing > walkthrough to build your own Fedora up. And there's a lot more, 66 > pages where variety won't be a problem. > > Happy new year and do not forget to download the magazine in the link > below: > > http://www.projetofedora.org/revista/RevistaFedoraBrasil004.pdf > > P.S.: Scribus source in the beginning of January. > > Your work is really amazing ! Congrats !! Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Furthermore, the magazine displays a special > approach to the brand new Fedora 10, presenting it in a clearly and > simply way all new features and changes of this new release. Enjoy > yourself and take part of Fedora Brazil Magazine's promotion and > compete for a copy of the book "*Java ? Fundamentos, pr?tica & > certifica??o*", by Adilson Bonanovisk. > > Shell script classes continues. There is also a stroll through SELinux > mysteries, headshots in Urban Terror game and an unfailing > walkthrough to build your own Fedora up. And there's a lot more, 66 > pages where variety won't be a problem. > > Happy new year and do not forget to download the magazine in the link > below: > > http://www.projetofedora.org/revista/RevistaFedoraBrasil004.pdf > > P.S.: Scribus source in the beginning of January. > > Your work is really amazing ! Congrats !! Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Furthermore, the magazine displays a special > approach to the brand new Fedora 10, presenting it in a clearly and > simply way all new features and changes of this new release. Enjoy > yourself and take part of Fedora Brazil Magazine's promotion and > compete for a copy of the book "Java ? Fundamentos, pr?tica & > certifica??o", by Adilson Bonanovisk. > > Shell script classes continues. There is also a stroll through SELinux > mysteries, headshots in Urban Terror game and an unfailing walkthrough > to build your own Fedora up. And there's a lot more, 66 pages where > variety won't be a problem. > > Happy new year and do not forget to download the magazine in the link > below: > > http://www.projetofedora.org/revista/RevistaFedoraBrasil004.pdf > > P.S.: Scribus source in the beginning of January. > Wow Just looking at it is amazing. Is there by chance an tool to translate this to english? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I had to do this as a part of installing the rpmfusion.org drivers for Nvidia graphics card. Alas! I have no solution to the problem yet, but I am trying to find one. If any one has found it, please reply. Thank you, Ratnadeep On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Debjit Saha wrote: > an upgrade to kernel 2.6.27.9-159.fc10.i686 from kernel > 2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i686 has rendered the line-out not working for me. > as in when I use the laptop speakers I get sound but when I connect > the speakers to the line-out port I dont get sound!!! > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From surenkarapetyan at gmail.com Sat Jan 3 18:32:10 2009 From: surenkarapetyan at gmail.com (Suren Karapetyan) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 22:32:10 +0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] kernel upgrade breaks sound line-out (speaker port) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <495FAF2A.9010100@gmail.com> Debjit Saha wrote: > an upgrade to kernel 2.6.27.9-159.fc10.i686 from kernel > 2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i686 has rendered the line-out not working for me. > as in when I use the laptop speakers I get sound but when I connect > the speakers to the line-out port I dont get sound!!! > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477911 From sandro at 4nix.com.br Sat Jan 3 19:27:12 2009 From: sandro at 4nix.com.br (sandro at 4nix.com.br) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:27:12 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi guys - Hello world Message-ID: Hi Guys This is my firts message: "Hello world" bye Sandro Melo From itamar at ispbrasil.com.br Sat Jan 3 19:29:53 2009 From: itamar at ispbrasil.com.br (Itamar Reis Peixoto) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:29:53 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Hi guys - Hello world In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: bem vindo, por favor se cadastre na lista dos embaixadores brasileiros tambem. On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 5:27 PM, wrote: > > Hi Guys > > This is my firts message: "Hello world" > > bye > > Sandro Melo > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ------------ Itamar Reis Peixoto e-mail/msn: itamar at ispbrasil.com.br sip: itamar at ispbrasil.com.br skype: itamarjp icq: 81053601 +55 11 4063 5033 +55 34 3221 8599 From mspevack at redhat.com Sat Jan 3 20:36:20 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 21:36:20 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] kernel upgrade breaks sound line-out (speaker port) In-Reply-To: <495FAF2A.9010100@gmail.com> References: <495FAF2A.9010100@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 3 Jan 2009, Suren Karapetyan wrote: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477911 Thanks for posting the bugzilla. In general, fedora-ambassadors-list is *not* for technical support. This thread would have been much better on fedora-list or in #fedora or #fedora-devel. Thanks, Max From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Sun Jan 4 11:26:40 2009 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 12:26:40 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1930UTC #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20090104122640.5c9f595b@mrtomlinux.org> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2009-01-04 / 19:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (04 jan.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'h?sitez pas ? le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent int?ressants. Thomas Canniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Suggestions to contact rdieter and spot, jds2001 volunteered. * Media Update - herlo reports F10 live CDs arrived. http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/files/f10media - Discussion about ordering the second batch of media to be available around the time of FUDconF11 - 2300 each of the installation DVDs for x86 and x86_64 will be ordered. - Boxes of media are being shipped to each regional NA ambassador for shipping on to ambassadors within their regions. - UPS account for shipping NA swag/media is in place - some details still need to be ironed out. * t-shirt Update - 300 assorted Fedora t-shirts should be waiting for us in Boston. * Tasks [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks] * Open Floor - Some further discussion of FADNA plans for the first half of 2009. I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight. From inode0 at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 03:01:54 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:01:54 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2008-12-24 Message-ID: (08:00:00 PM) inode0: FAmNA Meeting: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-12-23#Agenda (08:00:05 PM) inode0: Roll Call please (08:00:16 PM) ***ianweller lurks (08:00:32 PM) herlo has changed the topic to: FAmNA meeting, agenda available at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-12-23#Agenda (08:00:45 PM) herlo: .fas herlo (08:00:46 PM) zodbot: herlo: herlo 'Clint Savage' (08:01:06 PM) QUICKSTART: hello all (08:01:12 PM) QUICKSTART: ready to start (08:01:16 PM) ***lcafiero is present, using his inferior xchat (08:01:23 PM) herlo: lol (08:01:33 PM) inode0: Announcements (08:01:46 PM) ***jds2001 here (08:01:48 PM) ***DemonJester present (08:02:06 PM) inode0: I'd like to congratulate everyone involved in the FAmSCo elections - especially Larry and David (08:02:35 PM) lcafiero: Especially David -- congratulations ke4qqq (08:02:53 PM) jds2001: thank you for running both of you :) (08:02:57 PM) herlo: w00t! (08:03:12 PM) ***herlo will run next election and win! :) (08:03:30 PM) ianweller: well if that isn't a campaign promise i dunno what is (08:03:40 PM) herlo: :-D (08:03:50 PM) herlo: speaking of the almight ke4qqq, where is he? (08:03:57 PM) herlo: s/ght/ghty/ (08:03:59 PM) ***jds2001 promised a $700 billion bailout in the board election and didn't win! (08:04:01 PM) ***inode0 is lost (08:04:02 PM) jds2001: :) (08:04:09 PM) ianweller: jds2001: hmm wonder why :) (08:04:11 PM) inode0: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-December/msg00329.html (08:04:12 PM) ianweller: jds2001: ;) (08:04:15 PM) jds2001: :) (08:04:22 PM) lcafiero: heh (08:04:25 PM) inode0: Be sure to read fugolini's report if you haven't (08:04:27 PM) herlo: jds2001: I saw that (08:04:39 PM) ***lcafiero slaps forehead and mutters "that's where I went wrong" (08:05:00 PM) inode0: And other announcements? (08:05:03 PM) inode0: Any (08:05:04 PM) herlo: lcafiero had the best concession speech, however (08:05:11 PM) herlo: WE HAVE LIVE CDs (08:05:18 PM) herlo: http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/files/f10media/ (08:05:18 PM) lcafiero: Woo hoo! (08:05:29 PM) inode0: lcafiero's concession speech proved he should have been elected, which some of us knew all along :) (08:05:33 PM) herlo: best pic: http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/files/f10media/100_1360.jpg (08:05:35 PM) jds2001: w00t! (08:05:46 PM) inode0: that is a topic herlo, not an announcement! (08:05:58 PM) herlo: inode0: oh, sorry (08:06:04 PM) ***herlo slaps his own hand (08:06:20 PM) herlo: and cries -_^ (08:06:20 PM) DemonJester: herlo: inode0 already beat you to that :) (08:06:35 PM) herlo: lol, it's kind of a funny night tonight, now isn't it? (08:06:59 PM) inode0: Ok, let's get to any topics herlo doesn't spoil in the announcements section now (08:07:09 PM) DemonJester: lol (08:07:10 PM) ***herlo rescinds his announcement, dons a dunce cap and sits facing the corner of the room (08:07:19 PM) ianweller: it's like opening christmas presents early. bad! (08:07:25 PM) inode0: Scheduling guest speakers ... (08:07:30 PM) herlo: roflmao (08:07:32 PM) ***DemonJester points out the room is round and watches herlo look for the corner (08:07:42 PM) herlo: roflmao again! (08:07:46 PM) inode0: I contacted mmcgrath and he will speak to us about infra in January sometime (08:07:59 PM) herlo: very nice (08:08:18 PM) lcafiero: heh (08:08:33 PM) herlo: I need to talk with rdieter this coming week about having packagemaintainers come and talk with us too (08:08:36 PM) inode0: I'd like to encourage the rest of you if you haven't to try to line someone up (08:08:53 PM) ***herlo wants a task (08:09:07 PM) inode0: tasks come later herlo (08:09:08 PM) ***jds2001 can speak for fesco sometime if that's desired. (08:09:23 PM) inode0: :) (08:09:27 PM) herlo: inode0: no, I want to be assigned to remmeber (08:09:31 PM) ***jds2001 kicks herlo (08:09:40 PM) inode0: assign yourself a task then (08:09:50 PM) DemonJester: lol (08:09:51 PM) herlo: oh :( (08:09:57 PM) herlo: fine! (08:10:03 PM) DemonJester: roflmao... (08:10:08 PM) inode0: would anyone be interested in trying to get an overview of legal issues from spot? (08:10:12 PM) jds2001: oh, if a trac instance might be useful to you guys, that can be easily arranged. (08:10:26 PM) herlo: inode0: ianweller was doing that for some other stuff, we should get him to do it (08:10:33 PM) ianweller: do what (08:10:43 PM) herlo: what inode0 said (08:10:52 PM) inode0: assign yourself a task ianweller (08:10:54 PM) jds2001: getting spot to talk about legal things? (08:10:55 PM) herlo: jds2001: I'd be interested in that, but the wiki seems okay (08:11:16 PM) jds2001: whatever you'd like :) (08:11:17 PM) ***inode0 thinks this meeting spun out of control early (08:11:28 PM) ianweller: "talk with us" you mean like in this meeting? (08:11:31 PM) ianweller: or.... what (08:11:40 PM) herlo: yes, but not tonight (08:11:40 PM) inode0: yes (08:11:46 PM) herlo: at another meeting (08:11:48 PM) inode0: here is what I'm thinking (08:11:52 PM) inode0: more precisely (08:12:17 PM) inode0: a lot of new ambassadors and some old too may benefit from a good overview of legal issues that touch on Fedora (08:12:33 PM) inode0: whether that happens in this meeting or elsewhere I don't care (08:12:38 PM) ianweller: like [[ForbiddenItems]] ? (08:12:55 PM) jds2001: that and other things. (08:13:33 PM) inode0: I'm in the channel now but still lost ... what is ianweller being asked to do? (08:13:42 PM) ianweller: yeah. seriously. (08:13:50 PM) ***ianweller scratches head (08:13:52 PM) herlo: inode0: talk with wpot (08:13:53 PM) herlo: spot (08:13:55 PM) jds2001: ianweller: get spot to talk about legal items. (08:14:02 PM) inode0: oh, ok (08:14:02 PM) herlo: about coming to talk with us about legal (08:14:04 PM) ***ianweller writes that down (08:14:12 PM) ianweller: are meetings every tuesday, right? (08:14:17 PM) herlo: since he has to have him come and talk about his picture book anyway (08:14:21 PM) herlo: ianweller: yep (08:14:26 PM) jds2001: yes, every tuesday at 9PM (08:14:36 PM) ianweller: mokayu (08:14:37 PM) inode0: ianweller: yes, and it doesn't have to be real soon, a month after FUDcon so we could promote it is fine (08:14:40 PM) ianweller: mokay* (08:14:46 PM) inode0: or later at spot's convenience (08:15:13 PM) ianweller: ok! (08:15:17 PM) herlo: 9pm EST (08:15:33 PM) jds2001: the only timezone that matters for anything :) (08:15:35 PM) inode0: ok, next agenda item (non announcement variety) is media update (08:15:46 PM) herlo: yay! (08:15:53 PM) herlo: we have LiveCDs! (08:15:56 PM) inode0: show us the pictures! (08:16:03 PM) herlo: mkay (08:16:05 PM) inode0: also fill us in on UPS (08:16:15 PM) herlo: http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/files/f10media (08:16:17 PM) ianweller: pix or it didn't happen >.> ;) (08:16:22 PM) herlo: inode0: I have more about media (08:16:24 PM) lcafiero: lol (08:16:25 PM) inode0: and while you are giving yourself a task that one can be closed :) (08:16:53 PM) inode0: floor is yours herlo, go (08:16:57 PM) herlo: I know (08:17:02 PM) herlo: :-D (08:17:04 PM) ***herlo dances (08:17:16 PM) DemonJester: keep your shirt on! (08:17:24 PM) inode0: shirts are next! stop it! (08:17:32 PM) DemonJester: lol (08:17:42 PM) herlo: okay, so I talked with the media company today and we're placing another order tomorrow for ~2300 DVDs (08:18:06 PM) herlo: both x86 and x86_64 (08:18:49 PM) DemonJester: cool! (08:18:53 PM) herlo: that will be approximately $1800 with tax and all (08:19:05 PM) inode0: oh, so 1150 each (08:19:10 PM) herlo: What I need to do next is divvy up the media and get it distributed (08:19:20 PM) herlo: inode0: no, ~2300 each (08:19:32 PM) herlo: or we can get 3000 CDs (08:19:36 PM) inode0: 4600 for 1800, that doesn't add up (08:19:36 PM) QUICKSTART: nice (08:19:57 PM) herlo: no (08:20:09 PM) herlo: $2300 each totalling 4600 for $3600 (08:20:15 PM) herlo: s/$// (08:20:19 PM) herlo: scratch that first $ (08:20:22 PM) inode0: we get the idea now (08:20:30 PM) herlo: goodness! (08:20:57 PM) herlo: I've take the time to update the art online so they will have 64-bit sleeves and disc labels (08:21:08 PM) herlo: I'll have it all up there by tomorrow morning (08:21:10 PM) inode0: or we can get 3000 CDs + what? (08:21:22 PM) herlo: inode0: okay, let me recap (08:21:33 PM) herlo: about 3 days ago, I sent an email with three options (08:21:59 PM) herlo: one was to get LiveCDs x86_64 and Install DVDs (of one type or the other) for the full $3600 (08:22:11 PM) herlo: another was to get Install DVDs of x86 and x86_64 (08:22:24 PM) herlo: this was the one we went with per the responses (08:22:49 PM) QUICKSTART: but doesn't the dvd install take to long? (08:22:52 PM) herlo: inode0: make sense? (08:23:00 PM) herlo: QUICKSTART: we already have x86 LiveCDs (08:23:09 PM) inode0: yes, I agree with getting as many DVDs as we can for the $3600 (08:23:11 PM) QUICKSTART: ahhh ic carrry on (08:23:14 PM) herlo: and it only taks ~20mins... (08:23:20 PM) ***ke4qqq thanks herlo for using the cluebat (08:23:43 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: np (08:23:48 PM) ***QUICKSTART rubs the nobs on his head do to the cluebat (08:24:00 PM) ke4qqq: ohhhhh we have media!!! (08:24:03 PM) herlo: okay, so that order will be in (08:24:11 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: yes!! thanks for joining us :) (08:24:27 PM) ***herlo moves to UPS (08:24:29 PM) ke4qqq: so will they have it before you leave for BOS? (08:24:32 PM) herlo: inode0: that okay? (08:24:38 PM) inode0: yes (08:24:45 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: yes, I believe so (08:24:49 PM) herlo: that's my next topic (08:24:52 PM) ke4qqq: outstanding (08:25:10 PM) ***QUICKSTART jumps for joy but falls out of his computer chair (08:25:18 PM) herlo: so it appears that the issue was with the sleeve printing and the art delay. I'm going to have the art tomorrow so it should only take 10-15 days at most (08:25:22 PM) herlo: that should be enough time (08:25:36 PM) herlo: I've told him we need them by Jan 7, that's the night I leave for FUDCon (08:25:50 PM) ke4qqq: really...... that's interesting feedback - we should document that on the wiki. (08:25:53 PM) herlo: so we *should* have it (08:26:17 PM) ke4qqq: any chance we can include a failure to perform penalty? (08:26:23 PM) herlo: no (08:26:26 PM) herlo: price is too good (08:26:26 PM) QUICKSTART: question where is the cds being shipped from (08:26:32 PM) herlo: QUICKSTART: my house (08:26:33 PM) inode0: let's not negotiate contracts until spot gets here (08:26:38 PM) herlo: hehe (08:26:48 PM) herlo: here's the deal with shipping (08:27:07 PM) ***loupgaroublond lurks and trolls in the background, hi folks (08:27:07 PM) ***QUICKSTART slams his hand to his forehead and shouts 'Of course why couldn't I have thought of that' (08:27:12 PM) herlo: I have a request from stickster for 100+ LiveCDs which I'll be sending out tomorrow (08:27:35 PM) inode0: for FUDcon I presume (08:27:36 PM) herlo: in addition, the boxes hold 310 each and there are 9 of those boxes (08:27:46 PM) ***ke4qqq notes that we still have several package reviews outstanding so no sponsor should get any til those are cleared :) (08:27:49 PM) herlo: one box has 260, and I'm keeping that one (08:27:57 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: lol (08:28:20 PM) herlo: anyway, I figure I'll bring 620 CDs plus all the Install DVDs to FUDCon to give away to contributors there (08:28:31 PM) ke4qqq: f13 also requested some - wonder if he can wait til fudcon? (08:28:33 PM) herlo: so that means we have about 2200 CDs to distribute (08:28:38 PM) stickster: herlo: If you want to bring them to FUDCon, that would be fine (08:28:39 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: true (08:28:43 PM) loupgaroublond: herlo, are you taking orders for who will pick them up at fudcon? (08:28:45 PM) herlo: stickster: okay (08:28:45 PM) stickster: I don't want to bog you down (08:28:50 PM) herlo: just wait (08:28:56 PM) herlo: here's the plan I was thinking :) (08:29:04 PM) herlo: I'll get them shipped to the Regional Ambassadors (08:29:06 PM) herlo: tomorrow (08:29:17 PM) ke4qqq: what's shipping cost? (08:29:22 PM) herlo: they should arrive before FUDCon as I'll use 3 day (08:29:27 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: at this point, don't know (08:29:29 PM) ***ke4qqq cringes (08:29:41 PM) herlo: probably not more than $20 each (08:29:49 PM) jds2001: why use 3 day? (08:29:51 PM) QUICKSTART: dude sweet deal (08:29:53 PM) herlo: but I think it's important to get them out (08:29:58 PM) ke4qqq: when I shipped the laptop to inode0 it was 17 bucks (08:30:02 PM) jds2001: ground will work to get it there by fudcon (08:30:02 PM) herlo: jds2001: just getting them in the hands of contributors (08:30:04 PM) inode0: I don't need them before FUDcon (08:30:14 PM) herlo: jds2001: before (08:30:20 PM) inode0: either way (08:30:24 PM) herlo: but here's why (08:30:43 PM) herlo: the Regional Ambassadors for NA will be the point persons for delivering media to folks in their region (08:31:02 PM) herlo: I will have a hard time getting too many extra things on the plane without having to pay extra for them (08:31:09 PM) ke4qqq: true (08:31:12 PM) herlo: Delta now charges $25/bag (08:31:18 PM) ***herlo will be able to get one bag (08:31:27 PM) herlo: for free, but after that it's still $25/bag (08:31:34 PM) herlo: so the cost is actually better (08:31:35 PM) inode0: shipping them is definitely better than carrying them to Boston to give to us to carry back home imo (08:31:40 PM) ***ke4qqq is fine with standard shipping though. (08:31:42 PM) herlo: inode0: right (08:31:52 PM) herlo: I'll look at the delivery times in the morning (08:31:53 PM) inode0: standard is fine with me too (08:31:58 PM) QUICKSTART: you are correct sir hioooooo (08:32:26 PM) inode0: although I'm eager to see them in person ... (08:32:29 PM) ***DemonJester is in no hurry to get them either (08:32:30 PM) herlo: but I want to have them there *before* FUDCOn so that when requests come, we can distribute them effectively (08:32:40 PM) herlo: which means they need to be in your hands before FUDCon (08:33:03 PM) herlo: IMO (08:33:16 PM) DemonJester: check the costs then determine which shipping method is best (08:33:22 PM) herlo: right (08:33:40 PM) herlo: I think 3-day will be fairly close to ground and thus I chose that (08:33:43 PM) inode0: ok, let's let which shipping method is used dangle and move on (08:33:45 PM) herlo: but it does depend on cost (08:33:53 PM) herlo: inode0: okay, so last thing (08:34:04 PM) ke4qqq: ! (08:34:12 PM) herlo: please all regional ambassadors (and lcafiero) send me your snail mail addresses (08:34:16 PM) herlo: herlo at fp.o (08:34:26 PM) inode0: ke4qqq: (08:34:38 PM) herlo: I'll take requests from others as well, but I reserve the right to pass them to the right ambassador for fulfillment (08:34:41 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: go (08:34:43 PM) inode0: first he gets elected then he gets all formal on us (08:34:50 PM) ke4qqq: so also guys - you can order ups supplies for free from ups, so you get boxes and stuff (08:34:57 PM) ***ke4qqq didn't want to interrupt herlo (08:35:05 PM) ke4qqq: order those soon they take 3-4 days to deliver (08:35:16 PM) ke4qqq: and that will give you something to ship media in (08:35:20 PM) jds2001: we already have our own packaging. (08:35:23 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: perfect, I'll do that so I can get one box to bring everything else in (08:35:27 PM) jds2001: oh, for the regionals, yeah (08:35:35 PM) ke4qqq: and also remember this is supposed to last 6 months (08:35:38 PM) ke4qqq: or 5 (08:35:40 PM) ke4qqq: but same thing (08:35:42 PM) herlo: so everyone should have everything by mid-week next (08:35:44 PM) inode0: which packaging are you suggesting for this? (08:35:48 PM) QUICKSTART: so is there a limit for the amount of cds we can ask for? (08:36:03 PM) herlo: QUICKSTART: nope, but you need to justify the amount (08:36:06 PM) ***ke4qqq isn't suggesting anything - just that you order packaging (08:36:11 PM) herlo: in some form. I think we'll hash that out this week (08:36:14 PM) QUICKSTART: cool (08:36:18 PM) QUICKSTART: understandable (08:36:24 PM) herlo: in fact, inode0 can we make a task to hash that out by next meeting :) (08:36:39 PM) inode0: hash what out? (08:37:11 PM) inode0: well, I can make hash that out a task anyway :) (08:37:21 PM) jds2001: how to determine who gets how much media :) (08:37:22 PM) herlo: hash out how we deliver to regionals (08:37:26 PM) lcafiero: Mmmmm hash (08:37:31 PM) herlo: er, individuals (08:37:58 PM) herlo: as far as UPS goes, I was able to add myself to the account yesterday without any hassle (08:38:09 PM) ***DemonJester did as well (08:38:11 PM) ***jds2001 suggests DemonJester getting two boxes and giving one to me :) (08:38:24 PM) DemonJester: lol (08:38:24 PM) ke4qqq: if you need to know, I can tell you what the only charge is for (08:38:29 PM) ke4qqq: and how much (08:38:32 PM) ke4qqq: and where it's going (08:38:38 PM) ke4qqq: and how much I said it weighed (08:38:40 PM) inode0: as did I, as soon as someone bills against it I'll be convinced my 2 hours on the phone with UPS was an utter waste of time (08:38:44 PM) jds2001: put it on the wiki someplace? (08:39:04 PM) herlo: inode0: we'll know tonight as soon as I get snail mail addresses (08:39:12 PM) ***ke4qqq has billed against it (08:39:19 PM) inode0: ok, so we have media and we have UPS accounts (08:39:26 PM) inode0: ke4qqq is special (08:39:35 PM) ke4qqq: ohhh one other thing (08:39:43 PM) inode0: ok, I'm about to move on (08:39:48 PM) ke4qqq: try and ship to your $dayjob if that isn't verboten (08:39:55 PM) ke4qqq: it's cheaper to ship to a commercial place (08:39:58 PM) ke4qqq: eof (08:40:20 PM) inode0: t-shirt update - the floor belongs to DemonJester (08:40:24 PM) jds2001: what if $dyajob is at home 90% of the time :) (08:40:45 PM) ***QUICKSTART thinks 'what would have happended to snail mail if we didn't have snails?' (08:41:02 PM) herlo: sloth mail (08:41:06 PM) inode0: Is DemonJester still with us? (08:41:12 PM) ***herlo yields to DemonJester (08:41:14 PM) DemonJester: T-shirts were ordered today, printing begins on Monday should be delivered to RH Boston by Jan 7 / 8 (08:41:19 PM) ***QUICKSTART 'so true so true' (08:41:28 PM) herlo: DemonJester: w00T! (08:41:36 PM) jds2001: w00t! (08:41:49 PM) QUICKSTART: 0.0 (08:41:49 PM) inode0: what is the thinking about getting them from Boston to wherever they are really going? (08:41:52 PM) jds2001: whose attm? (08:42:06 PM) jds2001: hopefully someone who knows to expect em :) (08:42:21 PM) DemonJester: inode0: no clue.. pack them in suit case?? (08:42:29 PM) jds2001: inode0: my thinking is throw em in the eventbox, no? (08:42:29 PM) ***inode0 travels light (08:42:35 PM) DemonJester: jds2001: mizmo is expecting them (08:42:42 PM) inode0: 300 shirts aren't going into the event box (08:42:43 PM) ***QUICKSTART 'good idea but I ain't doing it' (08:42:57 PM) ke4qqq: I can take a large number of them (08:43:06 PM) herlo: jds2001: DemonJester: we do need to get the Eastern EventBox created and that would be a good start :) (08:43:07 PM) ***ke4qqq isn't flying (08:43:12 PM) jds2001: 300 shirts aren't going in my suitcase either - I travel with a carryon :) (08:43:22 PM) jds2001: 10 might if you're lucky :) (08:43:23 PM) ***QUICKSTART flaps his arms and doesn't get anywhere (08:43:26 PM) ***inode0 says ditto to jds2001 (08:43:41 PM) ke4qqq: 300 shirts is a LOT (08:43:56 PM) DemonJester: I can change the shipping if need be (08:44:02 PM) DemonJester: 9 boxes in all (08:44:12 PM) ke4qqq: can we split shipping (08:44:14 PM) herlo: DemonJester: I think RH Boston is perfect (08:44:18 PM) herlo: for me (08:44:22 PM) ke4qqq: 2 boxes? to each (08:44:26 PM) ke4qqq: herlo: why? (08:44:27 PM) QUICKSTART: so we have to pay for the shirts? (08:44:29 PM) inode0: ok, we'll figure this out but if any are expected to end up with me they'll need to be shipped most likely (maybe by me from FUDcon) (08:44:39 PM) ke4qqq: you have to pay 50 to get them back on the plane (08:44:49 PM) herlo: true (08:45:08 PM) ke4qqq: why not ship two to each regional (08:45:09 PM) herlo: I was going to be building the AmbassadorKits at FUDCon, so I'll probably have a need for at least one box (08:45:15 PM) ke4qqq: if that isn't too complex (08:45:18 PM) ke4qqq: and one to fudcon (08:45:23 PM) herlo: I don't see that being too bad (08:45:25 PM) jds2001: QUICKSTART: the ambassador polos, yes (08:45:31 PM) DemonJester: ke4qqq: that would run up the shipping charges more than likely (08:45:32 PM) inode0: if they are a mix that isn't bad (08:45:32 PM) herlo: it's pretty much the same as Media (08:45:42 PM) QUICKSTART: but for the ones being printed? (08:45:47 PM) ke4qqq: we'll have to pay it one way or another (08:45:49 PM) QUICKSTART: polos not so much (08:45:58 PM) DemonJester: I can check with them, they are closed until Monday (08:45:58 PM) QUICKSTART: k (08:46:05 PM) ke4qqq: k (08:46:14 PM) DemonJester: I will need your snail mails then as well (08:46:25 PM) DemonJester: bpowell01 at fp.o (08:46:32 PM) ***herlo sends that off (08:46:33 PM) jds2001: QUICKSTART: these are shirts we give out at larger events or in an AmbassadorKit (08:46:39 PM) inode0: why don't the four of us exchange mail and phone numbers and be done with that tonight? :) (08:47:04 PM) ke4qqq: arrghhh now you suggest that after the second email (08:47:12 PM) DemonJester: lol (08:47:20 PM) QUICKSTART: so basically if we order a kit we get one? (08:47:23 PM) herlo: inode0: agreed (08:47:26 PM) ***QUICKSTART crosses my fingers (08:47:43 PM) ***herlo thinks it would be good to have role based perms in FAS to do just that (08:48:01 PM) jds2001: there is :) (08:48:09 PM) G_work: btw, you can send to groupname-sponsors at fp.o etc (08:48:15 PM) jds2001: if you're in the 'accounts' group you can see that stuff :) (08:48:28 PM) herlo: not mailing address no? (08:48:34 PM) herlo: oh accounts (08:48:37 PM) DemonJester: eof (08:48:39 PM) G_work: herlo: oh right, doh (08:48:40 PM) ***jds2001 going to be sending to provenpackager-members tonight :) (08:48:46 PM) ***inode0 notes we can close the UPS account creation task and there are no other tasks to process tonight (08:49:10 PM) herlo: yay! (08:49:17 PM) ***herlo puts another mark in his belt (08:49:19 PM) inode0: Open Floor Melee - feel free to throw mud (08:49:29 PM) ***jds2001 throws mud all around (08:49:33 PM) ***ke4qqq splats ianweller with mud (08:49:44 PM) G_work: I have one item as an outsider, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, and a Great FUDCon (08:49:54 PM) jds2001: G_work: :) (08:49:56 PM) ke4qqq: thanks G_work (08:49:58 PM) inode0: we will all see you there (08:50:04 PM) ***DemonJester pulls up chair and watches the two honeys wrestle in the mud :) (08:50:07 PM) G_work: inode0: no you won't :) (08:50:16 PM) inode0: you don't have a webcam? (08:50:33 PM) G_work: inode0: I'll be sleeping most likely during the FUDCon hours (08:50:35 PM) ***inode0 makes a note to project a picture of G on the wall (08:50:37 PM) ianweller: lolwut (08:50:39 PM) ianweller: this meeting is nuts (08:51:03 PM) herlo: ianweller: it's not normally like this, just tonight :) (08:51:04 PM) QUICKSTART: wow (08:51:07 PM) herlo: must be the full moon (08:51:10 PM) G_work: inode0: okay, I'll send you one from the Xmas party :) (08:51:11 PM) DemonJester: ianweller: tis the season :) (08:51:14 PM) inode0: ianweller: this is how productive people behave two days before they get new toys (08:51:20 PM) ianweller: someone get a lof of this and frame it (08:51:20 PM) G_work: inode0: hold on :) (08:51:23 PM) ***lcafiero waits to see if he can get a word about FADNA in edgewise (08:51:25 PM) ianweller: s/lof/log/ (08:51:39 PM) jds2001: lcafiero: sure! (08:51:47 PM) herlo: lcafiero: go! (08:51:54 PM) G_work: inode0: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=75607&l=7451a&id=744113915 pick one :) (08:51:59 PM) herlo: don't listent to inode0, he's a stickler for rules and stuff (08:52:02 PM) inode0: ianweller: I will post the log as I always do (08:52:05 PM) herlo: :) (08:52:14 PM) inode0: timeout (08:52:20 PM) inode0: lcafiero: please proceed (08:52:26 PM) QUICKSTART: wish I could be a fudcon but for those attending have fun (08:52:40 PM) inode0: FADNA has the floor (08:53:09 PM) lcafiero: Okay, FADNA: Talked to Ian and Gareth at SCaLE and they'd be happy to have us. They have some conference rooms available. I have to get from them the cost. (08:53:19 PM) lcafiero: Ilan, not Ian, sorry. (08:53:44 PM) lcafiero: Ilan suggests that we NOT have something during SCaLE itself, but I told him that provisionally we'd have something Sunday like OLF (08:53:54 PM) lcafiero: (but I am not sure, really). (08:54:28 PM) herlo: lcafiero: that sounds reasonable, but they do SCALE on Sunday no? (08:54:36 PM) lcafiero: So they're interested in having us. I haven't talked with LFNW. (08:54:58 PM) herlo: when I was there last year, it seemed Sunday was filled with presentations as well... (08:55:00 PM) lcafiero: SCaLE is on Sunday, too. Ilan's concerned that our event might affect the Sunday program (08:55:12 PM) lcafiero: But I think that's something he doesn't have to worry about. (08:55:39 PM) inode0: should we think about trying to be a test case for the new FAD model? (08:55:44 PM) herlo: I don't think FAD would affect SCaLE, but that SCaLE would affect FAD (08:55:55 PM) lcafiero: That could be. I will talk to him further about that. (08:56:08 PM) lcafiero: Again, I don't have OLF as a reference point because I wasn't there. (08:56:19 PM) herlo: what about a FAD BoF or FAD room for the day. We are going to hav ea booth, we could do something with that I don't know (08:56:22 PM) lcafiero: But I'm assuming FADNA will be held on Sunday morn and early afternoon, like OLF (08:56:26 PM) herlo: sounds like something else to continue hashing out (08:56:33 PM) inode0: I think it might be worth shooting for Q1 or early Q2 if we can pair up with another group (08:56:41 PM) lcafiero: I have to keep talking with these two, but the overall tone is that they want us there. (08:56:45 PM) lcafiero: Which is kind of cool. (08:57:03 PM) herlo: :) (08:57:14 PM) inode0: there may well be funding available to do that right (08:57:53 PM) lcafiero: That's their main question -- how much we have to spend. My response is "how much is the meeting room, for starters?" (08:57:58 PM) lcafiero: We're at that point now. (08:58:14 PM) lcafiero: I'll continue updates this week on the mailing list. (08:58:16 PM) inode0: we really have little to spend in Feb (08:58:30 PM) lcafiero: That's a good point for going with LFNW in April. (08:59:05 PM) inode0: would have more in April, perhaps a lot more if we try to work with another Fedora group (08:59:12 PM) inode0: rather than with a conference (08:59:45 PM) lcafiero: I'd like to go with LFNW myself, but will go with the will of the group. (09:00:17 PM) herlo: lcafiero: chase LFNW if you ask me (09:00:18 PM) jds2001: LFNW could use our presence, IMO (09:00:21 PM) inode0: since there is a new vision proposed for FAD I think we should at least serious think about trying to work with that (09:00:31 PM) herlo: try to pursue both and report back next week? (09:00:59 PM) lcafiero: Will do. (09:01:10 PM) lcafiero: +1 to jds2001 (09:01:23 PM) ***lcafiero is doing three things at once at work -- new personal best (09:01:25 PM) inode0: well to work with the new vision we need to find other groups who are interested (or it would be nice to) (09:02:07 PM) herlo: I think both California and Washington will have lots of folks interested in Fedora (09:02:15 PM) jds2001: but I need to get a flight across the country soon if we're doing this on the west coast. (09:02:27 PM) inode0: I think some advertising is needed to let everyone know that they can participate in FAD now (09:02:28 PM) lcafiero: indeed (09:03:20 PM) jds2001: how bout stemming my flow of negative stuff onto f-announce with such messagin : (09:03:23 PM) jds2001: :) (09:03:46 PM) inode0: perhaps it should be cleared with spevack, I don't know if he is ready (09:03:57 PM) inode0: he likely would do it I would think (09:04:59 PM) inode0: ok, anything else for tonight? (09:05:14 PM) QUICKSTART: nothing that I know (09:05:20 PM) jds2001: is there a meeting next tuesday? (09:05:21 PM) ***QUICKSTART holds his mouth shut (09:05:24 PM) lcafiero: nothing here (09:05:29 PM) inode0: GO Buffalo (09:05:36 PM) inode0: 5 (09:05:36 PM) DemonJester: lol (09:05:38 PM) QUICKSTART: lol Go Yankees (09:05:40 PM) QUICKSTART: 4 (09:05:50 PM) jds2001: go Cardinals! (09:05:53 PM) inode0: stop it, I have to start over when you interrupt the countdown (09:05:55 PM) jds2001: (baseball) (09:05:56 PM) QUICKSTART: 3 (09:05:58 PM) lcafiero: Go Giants (baseball) (09:06:00 PM) QUICKSTART: 2 (09:06:08 PM) inode0: do you want to get kicked QUICKSTART? (09:06:12 PM) QUICKSTART: sorry (09:06:16 PM) inode0: 5 (09:06:17 PM) inode0: 4 (09:06:19 PM) inode0: 3 (09:06:20 PM) inode0: 2 (09:06:22 PM) inode0: 1 (09:06:26 PM) inode0: thank you all (09:06:28 PM) inode0: EOF From inode0 at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 03:38:53 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:38:53 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2008-12-31 Message-ID: * AmbassadorKits - herlo got an early start on FUDcon and created a Media Box layout for the AmbassadorKits. http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/files/media_box/ - herlo plans to modify ianweller's fedora-business-cards package to customize the Media Boxes for each ambassador. - Need to think about the outer box used to house the AmbassadorKits. * Media Discussion - herlo reports F10 live CDs arrived, installation media ordered and may arrive by FUDcon. * FAmNA Resource Requests - herlo reports a new trac instance to help handle media/swag requests. https://fedorahosted.org/famnarequests - This should help ambassadors make requests and should immensely help us process and track requests to minimize effort and expense. * Tasks [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks] * Open Floor - Update on the status of the t-shirt order. - Brief discussion about changing the frequency/times of FAmNA meetings, will be conducted on the f-a-l mailing list. - The Starfish and the Spider was highly recommended by all who had read it. All ambassadors should read this book. We may have a roundtable discussion of how this book's ideas relate to our work after others have a chance to read it. I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight. From inode0 at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 03:39:52 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:39:52 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2008-12-31 Message-ID: (08:00:01 PM) inode0: FAmNA Meeting - Roll Call (08:00:15 PM) ***DemonJester here (08:00:18 PM) ***lcafiero plays the role of Larry Cafiero (08:00:23 PM) herlo: .fas herlo (08:00:24 PM) zodbot: herlo: herlo 'Clint Savage' (08:00:27 PM) ***QUICKSTART here you know what I was going to say (08:00:33 PM) ***ke4qqq is here (08:01:07 PM) inode0: Are there any announcements? (08:01:24 PM) ***herlo resists announcing anything (08:01:35 PM) ***lcafiero can't think of anything (08:01:40 PM) ianweller: oh hi! (08:01:43 PM) QUICKSTART: Happy New Years to all (08:02:03 PM) inode0: ok, let's try to stay on topic tonight as much as possible (08:02:19 PM) inode0: herlo has the floor for the first item, ambassador kits (08:02:56 PM) herlo has changed the topic to: FAmNA Meeting - Agenda here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-12-30#Agenda (08:03:22 PM) herlo: inode0: I snuck in another topic too (08:03:28 PM) herlo: AmbassadorKits. (08:03:40 PM) herlo: yes, those are the darned things we've been trying to get going for some time (08:03:50 PM) herlo: well FUDCon is only a week and a half away now (08:04:01 PM) herlo: so I decided it would be a good time to get some of the pieces in the works (08:04:10 PM) herlo: so I created the new Fedora Media Box (08:04:20 PM) herlo: it's been in the Artwork Design Request queue for some time (08:05:28 PM) herlo: I'd like to preview the new Media Box here: 13:15 -!- Topic for #fedora-meeting: Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note that meetings ajax often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please ask in #fedora | See bpepple http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel for meeting schedule (08:05:34 PM) herlo: ugh (08:05:37 PM) herlo: let me try that again (08:05:45 PM) herlo: http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/files/media_box/ (08:05:56 PM) herlo: there are several images along with three svg files (08:06:03 PM) herlo: the images are examples of what I built (08:06:29 PM) herlo: thoughts? (08:06:34 PM) ***inode0 makes a mental note to highlight that in the summary (08:07:04 PM) inode0: I think it looks great (08:07:08 PM) herlo: the svg files do the front and back. You can print them on one 8-1/2x11 sheet of paper (08:07:29 PM) herlo: and cut and fold, add some tape and voila, you have a media box, holding ~10 bits of Media (08:07:43 PM) crossbytes: I think they look great... (08:07:44 PM) herlo: the instructions.svg explains where to cut, how to cut and fold. (08:08:04 PM) ***herlo should point out that this project was taken from the Ubuntu-Utah Loco as it was public domain (08:08:09 PM) herlo: and credit is due there (08:08:36 PM) lcafiero: Look great, herlo (08:08:47 PM) ***DemonJester agrees ^^^^ (08:09:13 PM) QUICKSTART: +1 (08:09:18 PM) herlo: thanks all for the vote of confidence. I plan to create a bit of software based upon ianweller's fedora_business_cards and automate it when a request is made for AmbassadorKits (08:09:30 PM) ianweller: that's fedora-business-cards to *you* (08:09:32 PM) lcafiero: +1 (08:09:36 PM) ke4qqq: ohhh +1 (08:09:50 PM) herlo: because that is the purpose of these boxes, to be *part* of the AmbassadorKit (08:09:57 PM) herlo: ianweller: depending on where you look :) (08:10:45 PM) herlo: In other words, at the Hackfest on Friday, January 9, I plan to put together at least 10 of these boxes as well as construct as many AmbassadorKits too (08:10:46 PM) ***QUICKSTART starts standing ovation for herlo (08:10:55 PM) herlo: which brings me to my next point regarding this project (08:11:28 PM) herlo: We need a *sexy* looking box to send out to ambassadors for a good cost (08:11:38 PM) herlo: it'll need to hold everything we want in an ambassadorkit (08:11:47 PM) herlo: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/AmbassadorKit (08:11:57 PM) ***ke4qqq suggests a standard UPS shipping box (08:12:37 PM) ***herlo thinks that's not gonna do it (08:13:01 PM) ke4qqq: why?? what do we care what the carrier looks like? and even more importantly - how would we afford to get it mass produced? (08:13:03 PM) herlo: I mean those are nice and all, but wouldn't it be good if we could have a presentable plastic-ish box that we could open up? (08:13:07 PM) inode0: I think it might work for starting out - long term active ambassadors might want something more permanent (08:13:19 PM) ke4qqq: ohhh pelican! (08:13:25 PM) herlo: yeah, I've been envisioning a more sturdy permanent solution (08:13:40 PM) herlo: ooh, that might work, but they'd have to be much smaller than the EventBox (08:13:46 PM) ***herlo will look into that this week (08:13:53 PM) ***inode0 thinks that only makes sense for active ambassadors (08:13:53 PM) herlo: inode0: ^^ task me up plz (08:14:11 PM) herlo: inode0: yes, that's who AmbassasadorKits are targeted (08:14:15 PM) QUICKSTART: +1 (08:14:21 PM) ***lcafiero has an ambassador box that's actually a backpack (08:14:28 PM) herlo: +1 on ke4qqq's suggestion of pelican (08:14:30 PM) inode0: well, any ambassador who has a local event will want an ambassador kit (08:14:41 PM) herlo: right, and they can have one (08:14:44 PM) ke4qqq: I currently carry all of my supplies in a backpack (08:14:48 PM) herlo: as long as they are ambassadors (08:14:53 PM) herlo: they should be easy to refill (08:15:01 PM) ke4qqq: but do I really want 5-6? (08:15:06 PM) ke4qqq: seems wasteful (08:15:07 PM) herlo: t-shirts, stickers, etc... (08:15:07 PM) QUICKSTART: couldn't we get a paper box resembling a briefcase (08:15:16 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: 5-6 what? (08:15:23 PM) ke4qqq: the idea was to have this as a no thought item we could drop off and get shipped (08:15:26 PM) ke4qqq: wasn't it? (08:15:30 PM) ke4qqq: 5-6 of these boxes (08:15:31 PM) herlo: it's one box, you refill it... (08:15:39 PM) inode0: I just think a UPS box would be quite adequate unless you are doing *many* events with it (08:15:44 PM) herlo: more like 20-40 of these boxes (08:15:50 PM) QUICKSTART: true (08:15:51 PM) herlo: one for every ambassador (08:15:55 PM) ke4qqq: hmmmm that seems counter to the thought of one stop shopping (08:16:10 PM) herlo: I missed that meeting I guess (08:16:11 PM) ke4qqq: refilling it means I can't just grab a box on the way out the door (08:16:21 PM) herlo: my mind had it that we'd ship out one box, then refill it as needed (08:16:28 PM) ke4qqq: I thought that was your original thought (08:16:36 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: refills are done piecemeal (08:16:44 PM) QUICKSTART: sounds expensive (08:16:46 PM) ke4qqq: why? (08:17:01 PM) herlo: you get one box, and you use it at an event, restock what's depleted (08:17:09 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: I guess I can see your point (08:17:22 PM) herlo: but I think we're digging into minutiae now, we should save some of this for FUDCon (08:17:27 PM) QUICKSTART: sorry thought out loud (08:17:27 PM) ke4qqq: that's just as expensive to ship 100 CDs as 100CDs and a tshirt (08:17:33 PM) ke4qqq: you are right (08:17:35 PM) QUICKSTART: rather typed out loud (08:17:47 PM) ke4qqq: and inode0 a pox on you for saying the word that must not be mentioned :) (08:17:47 PM) inode0: agreed, we should settle on whether this is going to be disposable or permanent soon though (08:18:13 PM) herlo: inode0: we can decide that this week (08:18:30 PM) ***herlo votes to move forward... (08:18:36 PM) inode0: ke4qqq: context - if the ambassador does one or two events I don't think the project needs to fund a fancy box (08:18:38 PM) ***ke4qqq +1's (08:18:46 PM) ke4qqq: I know, but still the word....lol (08:19:25 PM) inode0: Media Discussion - last minute addition to the agenda by herlo (08:19:43 PM) herlo: quickly, I just wanted to let everyone know that the LiveCDs have shipped (08:19:49 PM) herlo: arriving before FUDCon for everone (08:19:50 PM) herlo: everyone (08:20:07 PM) herlo: and, we ordered 2300 each of x86 and x86_64 DVDs (08:20:26 PM) herlo: we're hoping for it to be done by Jan 7 so I can bring some to FUDCon. But we'll see (08:20:30 PM) herlo: it's gonna be close (08:20:35 PM) inode0: which reminds me ... (08:20:55 PM) inode0: everyone who is incurring actual expenses please remember to update our budget (08:21:05 PM) inode0: with hard numbers as they materialize (08:21:19 PM) ke4qqq: +10 (08:21:42 PM) QUICKSTART: would that include travel expenses? (08:21:44 PM) herlo: inode0: we'll get those from the ups weekly pdf too (08:21:53 PM) herlo: QUICKSTART: only if you have been approved for that (08:22:08 PM) QUICKSTART: k got it (08:22:09 PM) inode0: I wasn't speaking directly about your costs herlo, you just reminded me :) (08:22:35 PM) herlo: inode0: I know, just wanted to point that out (08:22:54 PM) herlo: k, that topic is done for me (08:23:03 PM) inode0: FAmNA Resource Requests (08:23:49 PM) herlo: okay, so along with all this media, we now have a new trac instance that cna be used by any NA Fedora Contributor (read Ambassador) to request resources from us (08:23:51 PM) inode0: agenda hat trick for herlo (08:24:00 PM) herlo: https://fedorahosted.org/famnarequests (08:24:26 PM) herlo: for those of you who are Regional Ambassadors, ke4qqq, DemonJester, inode0, lcafiero and myself, you'll be able to login and handle requests (08:24:44 PM) lcafiero: +1 (08:24:58 PM) herlo: we need to spread the word about this requesting system. It can handle media right now, but when DemonJester gets his t-shirts that can be added, stickers is another thing, etc... (08:25:11 PM) herlo: we can customize this instance to accommodate these requests (08:25:17 PM) herlo: we can track them and improve our processes (08:25:19 PM) herlo: plus (08:25:30 PM) herlo: * Allowing the NA Regional Ambassadors the ability to view and process requests without duplication. (08:25:33 PM) herlo: * Avoid duplicate requests for resources. (08:25:36 PM) herlo: right from the front page (08:25:38 PM) herlo: * Better planning purchases for future resources. (08:26:17 PM) herlo: I got an email reply from spevack that he's going to be implementing this sort of system across much of the fedora infrastructure for requests... (08:26:23 PM) QUICKSTART: +2 (08:26:54 PM) herlo: so I'd like to get you all to login and make sure you can see tickets (08:27:08 PM) herlo: DemonJester: you should have received an email from jds2001 already. Did you get that? (08:27:11 PM) inode0: ok, tasks for everyone (08:27:16 PM) herlo: do it now! (08:27:18 PM) herlo: :) (08:27:25 PM) ***DemonJester shakes head yes already logged in as well (08:27:26 PM) herlo: it won't take but a minute (08:27:35 PM) ***jds2001 here (08:28:06 PM) herlo: inode0: ke4qqq lcafiero all logged in as well? (08:28:25 PM) inode0: let's say yes (08:28:26 PM) ke4qqq: should I be able to see ticket #1? (08:28:28 PM) lcafiero: I get this when clicking on the login link: https://fedorahosted/famnarequests/login (08:28:32 PM) ke4qqq: even tho it's not mine? (08:28:36 PM) herlo: yes (08:28:46 PM) ***ke4qqq thought you worked to eliminate that (08:28:57 PM) herlo: no, only for people who make requests (08:29:01 PM) ***inode0 doesn't think we need a classroom session during the meeting (08:29:02 PM) herlo: the regionals can see these tickets (08:29:06 PM) ke4qqq: ahhhh ok (08:29:14 PM) herlo: inode0: it was only to get ppl to login, sorry (08:29:29 PM) lcafiero: logged in. (08:29:29 PM) herlo: lcafiero: I'll work with you offline then (08:29:34 PM) herlo: ooh, cool, nm (08:29:42 PM) lcafiero: There's something wrong with the link in the body of the site about midway down. (08:29:51 PM) lcafiero: The one that says "log in" (08:29:53 PM) herlo: anyway, spread the word to your regions that this is the way to get media if you get email requests (08:29:56 PM) lcafiero: But the one on top works. (08:30:05 PM) herlo: :) (08:30:06 PM) inode0: let's just do this right after the meeting in fedora-ambassadors? (08:30:11 PM) herlo: yep (08:30:13 PM) herlo: sounds good (08:30:20 PM) herlo: 3 items down, 10 minutes each (08:30:41 PM) lcafiero: Awww. (08:30:43 PM) lcafiero: Okay. (08:30:59 PM) inode0: before we leave this I think the idea and arrangements look about as perfect as we could get for now (08:31:14 PM) inode0: should be very helpful (08:31:29 PM) ***DemonJester notes he really like the idea! (08:31:43 PM) ***lcafiero does a few laps around the site and likes it. (08:31:50 PM) inode0: task list is next (08:32:06 PM) ke4qqq: can we close the ups task?? everyone successfully used it? (08:32:18 PM) ***inode0 has been a slacker and must finish his clean up task tomorrow (08:32:18 PM) herlo: already moved (08:32:27 PM) herlo: reload that page (08:32:31 PM) DemonJester: I am in but havent used it yet (08:32:48 PM) jds2001: I suppose that if we want regionals not to be able to see other regions I could take TRAC_ADMIN away from em. (08:32:56 PM) jds2001: but I don't think that's valuable. (08:33:09 PM) inode0: I don't care who sees what (08:33:11 PM) herlo: no, I think it's fine (08:33:18 PM) inode0: no secrets necessary (08:33:19 PM) ke4qqq: no it's not valuable - but I wanted to make sure that was expected behavior (08:33:29 PM) ke4qqq: after all of the silo talking (08:33:42 PM) jds2001: hehe :) (08:33:43 PM) ***ke4qqq wasn't aware he was a trac_admin (08:33:53 PM) jds2001: we don't build silos here, we build community :) (08:33:58 PM) inode0: ready to move on? (08:34:01 PM) herlo: yep (08:34:03 PM) jds2001: ke4qqq: you should see an admin tab in the right corner (08:34:03 PM) lcafiero: +1 (08:34:05 PM) jds2001: yes :) (08:34:07 PM) inode0: Open Floor (08:34:08 PM) ke4qqq: ohh wait (08:34:13 PM) ke4qqq: what's status on tshirts? (08:34:14 PM) ***inode0 waits (08:34:28 PM) inode0: good question (08:34:34 PM) herlo: task is done (08:34:37 PM) herlo: I asked DemonJester (08:34:43 PM) inode0: they are ordered? (08:34:47 PM) herlo: yes (08:34:48 PM) ke4qqq: ahhh I see the ordered note (08:34:53 PM) inode0: to be paid later? (08:34:59 PM) ke4qqq: arrival date?? where/how are they shipping? (08:35:02 PM) DemonJester: they were ordered last week.. I called about shipping to different locations instead of RH boston but cost is alot more for shipping (08:35:15 PM) ke4qqq: how much more than shipping to all of us from boston? (08:35:23 PM) ke4qqq: assuming that the majority of us can't carry them back (08:35:33 PM) inode0: will end up a lot more I expect anyway (08:36:03 PM) DemonJester: we can either have them all shipped to RH Boston of we can ship them to me and I send them out. Roughly about $100 more (08:36:07 PM) herlo: we'll need some for AmbKits, but only like 20-30 probably (08:36:11 PM) inode0: but if they don't mix them up in each box then we need to do that anyway (08:36:33 PM) ke4qqq: what size boxes? (08:36:54 PM) DemonJester: didnt ask but there will be 9 of them. (08:36:59 PM) ***ke4qqq is willing to part with 100 to have them shipped direct I think. (08:37:13 PM) ke4qqq: herlo: you know about shirts - what kind of volume are we talking? (08:37:20 PM) ***inode0 is only worried about getting all XXL (08:37:29 PM) ke4qqq: lol (08:37:42 PM) ***lcafiero needs XXL too (08:37:43 PM) DemonJester: could happen as I doubt they will sort them before shipping (08:38:01 PM) inode0: no, I mean I don't want a box of 50 Small and Medium only shirts (08:38:06 PM) ke4qqq: what happens if they (or $carrier) misses the date? (08:38:29 PM) ***inode0 doesn't need XXL :) (08:38:42 PM) DemonJester: They said we would have them for Fudcon. Didnt get any money back shipping promise (08:38:44 PM) ***jds2001 doesn't need XXL, just XL :) (08:38:51 PM) ***QUICKSTART what no large???? lol (08:39:02 PM) ***ke4qqq started out thinking that BOS was a great destination - now I am worried (08:39:14 PM) inode0: let's just deal with it at FUDcon, we can repack and reship from there, right? (08:39:27 PM) ke4qqq: inode0: again - what if they don't arrive (08:39:33 PM) ke4qqq: in time (08:39:35 PM) ke4qqq: on schedule (08:39:38 PM) inode0: then mo will help us out (08:39:54 PM) ke4qqq: k - just wanted someone other than me to volunteer her :) (08:40:11 PM) inode0: I'll give her a pony and it will be ok (08:40:53 PM) inode0: or DemonJester can reroute them to him if they are going to really miss (08:41:14 PM) ke4qqq: k (08:41:26 PM) ***DemonJester thinks that might be best so we dont have to reship 5 times only 4 if they come direct to me (08:41:33 PM) jds2001: a hello kitty pony mind you.. (08:41:40 PM) QUICKSTART: make sure that someone is there to pick up the boxes though (08:41:48 PM) jds2001: at red hat? (08:41:51 PM) jds2001: I (08:41:53 PM) ke4qqq: I won't have to ship mine either - /me isn't flying (08:41:59 PM) jds2001: am sure there's someone there :) (08:42:06 PM) inode0: don't worry about that (08:42:14 PM) jds2001: right you have the bus :) (08:42:16 PM) DemonJester: ke4qqq: didnt know that so either way it would be the same (08:42:20 PM) jds2001: you driving the bus? :) (08:42:26 PM) ke4qqq: indeed! (08:42:49 PM) DemonJester: I will just keep it going to RH then (08:42:57 PM) DemonJester: if everyone is ok with that (08:43:07 PM) herlo: yep (08:43:07 PM) jds2001: if i would have known about it before i might have joined you :) (08:43:16 PM) jds2001: but I already have train tickets :) (08:43:19 PM) inode0: I'm ok with anything that ends up with them being shipped to me not in Boston :) (08:43:46 PM) herlo: inode0: yer coming to fudcon right? (08:44:06 PM) inode0: yes, but I'm not carrying 2 boxes of shirts back with me if I can help it (08:44:20 PM) DemonJester: wear them then :) (08:44:35 PM) ianweller: < TSA> sir ummmm why do you have four dozen shirts on? (08:44:35 PM) ke4qqq: lol (08:44:39 PM) ***DemonJester pictures inode0 with 150 shirts on ;) (08:45:02 PM) lcafiero: heh (08:45:03 PM) ***herlo was going for the youtube video (08:45:07 PM) ke4qqq: better question - whats the reaction of central US ambassadors to receiving a shirt pre-worn by inode0 ? (08:45:08 PM) ***QUICKSTART winter coat (08:45:10 PM) ke4qqq: on a plane (08:45:13 PM) ***inode0 is starting to get sweaty (08:45:15 PM) ke4qqq: for 5 hours (08:45:30 PM) herlo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muP9eH2p2PI (08:45:38 PM) inode0: ok Open Floor (08:45:49 PM) inode0: I have one small topic (08:46:16 PM) herlo: :51 in (08:46:32 PM) inode0: We talked a while back when there was a request to change the meeting time about revisiting that at some point (08:46:41 PM) inode0: I think now is a good point in time to do that (08:46:43 PM) DemonJester: herlo: lol (08:47:11 PM) QUICKSTART: Would it be possible to make it based on Eastern Time or any other us time zone (08:47:18 PM) inode0: no (08:47:27 PM) jds2001: it is at 9PM eastern. (08:47:34 PM) jds2001: but all meetings are based on UTC (08:47:44 PM) ***herlo can't do much earlier (08:47:51 PM) DemonJester: nor can I (08:47:56 PM) herlo: and to be honest, I was the one who pushed it this late (08:47:58 PM) herlo: but (08:48:06 PM) herlo: I'm up for biweekly meetings though (08:48:07 PM) QUICKSTART: Saturdays?? (08:48:11 PM) herlo: I think that's something we can do (08:48:16 PM) jds2001: why is that a concern? (08:48:17 PM) herlo: QUICKSTART: saturdays are hard (08:48:18 PM) inode0: I'm going to send something to f-a-l soonish about this since others who can't come at this time can't give us input here (08:48:23 PM) jds2001: 9PM is a reasonable time for me. (08:48:33 PM) ***DemonJester notes QUICKSTART must not be married for suggesting Sat.. ;) (08:48:37 PM) QUICKSTART: just offering an idea (08:48:43 PM) QUICKSTART: +1 (08:48:53 PM) ***jds2001 could do Sat too :) (08:49:00 PM) ***herlo could not (08:49:01 PM) jds2001: but I'm also not married :) (08:49:01 PM) ***ke4qqq doewsn't want to do Sat (08:49:07 PM) ***herlo isn't marred (08:49:07 PM) ke4qqq: would cosnider sunday though (08:49:09 PM) lcafiero: Tuesdays are better than Saturdays for me. (08:49:12 PM) ***DemonJester cant do Sat. (08:49:12 PM) ***jds2001 either really (08:49:16 PM) ke4qqq: and tuesdays are far better (08:49:18 PM) herlo: sundays would work now adays (08:49:25 PM) herlo: but I like tuesdays (08:49:30 PM) inode0: I am going to suggest trying to move to twice a month, once at the current time, and possibly once more convenient for others and a weekend might be worth considering (08:49:32 PM) QUICKSTART: Sunday is ok I guess my schedule is flexible since I'm not married yet (08:49:35 PM) lcafiero: me is married, but that's not why Saturdays don't work. (08:49:38 PM) herlo: and I've gotten all my other meetings rearranged too (08:50:13 PM) ***jds2001 still not sure what time FESCo is gonna end up at. (08:50:21 PM) QUICKSTART: well anything thats convenient for you guys as long as its not 10 or later (08:50:32 PM) ke4qqq: in what timezone? (08:50:39 PM) DemonJester: EST (08:50:39 PM) inode0: I'd like to see one of the meetings be earlier in the day so others can come who sleep at this time (08:50:59 PM) ke4qqq: like who? (08:51:01 PM) ***DemonJester notes sleep is overrated! (08:51:02 PM) jds2001: but who in NA sleeps at this hour? (08:51:08 PM) inode0: max for one (08:51:13 PM) ke4qqq: he isn't in NA (08:51:14 PM) herlo: inode0: maybe the biweekly schedule can be early one week and late for another (08:51:18 PM) jds2001: he's not in NA :) (08:51:30 PM) inode0: he would make valuable contributions (08:51:34 PM) herlo: ke4qqq is our NA FAMSCO rep now, we'll make him do all the work :) (08:51:47 PM) jds2001: sounds good! (08:51:49 PM) ***DemonJester suggests we hold special sessions for max then (08:51:55 PM) ***lcafiero thinks losing the election wasn't so bad after all (08:52:15 PM) ke4qqq: why?? (08:52:15 PM) inode0: it isn't just max, people in NA prefer earlier in the day too (08:52:19 PM) ke4qqq: ohhh one other thing (08:52:23 PM) crossbytes: I think weekends and earlier for the east coast Ambassadors (08:52:27 PM) inode0: let's bounce it around on f-a-l (08:52:32 PM) lcafiero: +1 (08:52:32 PM) ke4qqq: +1 (08:52:32 PM) herlo: lcafiero: you and your election losses (08:52:38 PM) herlo: +1 (08:52:42 PM) ***ke4qqq has a topic when you are finished (08:52:45 PM) lcafiero: herlo: I'm scarred for life (08:52:56 PM) inode0: I'll start it up (08:52:57 PM) herlo: meh (08:53:04 PM) inode0: ke4qqq has the floor (08:53:19 PM) ke4qqq: ok - so the idea of special meetings for max brought this to mind (08:53:40 PM) ke4qqq: I'd suggest that everyone who can get a copy of the Starfish and the Spider (08:53:44 PM) ke4qqq: and read it. (08:53:46 PM) ke4qqq: only 200 pages (08:53:50 PM) ke4qqq: and it's great (08:53:56 PM) ***herlo is reading it (08:53:56 PM) QUICKSTART: what is that? (08:54:02 PM) herlo: 2 chapters in (08:54:05 PM) inode0: read f-a-l too QUICKSTART (08:54:15 PM) ***DemonJester has it ordered after seeing it on f-a-l (08:54:15 PM) ke4qqq: and short of Homesteading the Noosphere it's the best book to describe F/LOSS orgs that I have read (08:54:19 PM) ke4qqq: in a long time (08:54:26 PM) QUICKSTART: I would enjoy reading it but where can I get a copy and what are those texts (08:54:43 PM) ke4qqq: QUICKSTART: BN, Amazon.com, Borders, etc. (08:54:46 PM) inode0: after you guys read it perhaps we can have a roundtable discussion about it (08:54:52 PM) ke4qqq: yes!! (08:54:55 PM) inode0: I'd like that (08:54:57 PM) herlo: +1 (08:55:00 PM) lcafiero: +1 (08:55:05 PM) ***ke4qqq thinks we need to make it part of required NA mentoring (08:55:06 PM) DemonJester: Fedora book club :) (08:55:09 PM) QUICKSTART: I'll take a look into it (08:55:25 PM) crossbytes: +1 DemonJester (08:55:27 PM) ke4qqq: and that each Ambassador should be considered a catalyst or champion (08:55:43 PM) DemonJester: herlo: why not add that in the AMBKit? (08:56:01 PM) ke4qqq: if we had any spare money I'd say it was a great idea (08:56:11 PM) QUICKSTART: http://www.starfishandspider.com/ (08:56:16 PM) DemonJester: future thought perhaps then.. (08:56:19 PM) QUICKSTART: thats the starfish and spider? (08:56:22 PM) ke4qqq: perhaps (08:56:30 PM) herlo: could do, but the cost keeps rising (08:56:30 PM) herlo: ing (08:56:39 PM) ke4qqq: QUICKSTART: yep (08:56:40 PM) herlo: sorry, got disconnected (08:56:51 PM) inode0: let's stop adding stuff to the kit for tonight (08:56:52 PM) QUICKSTART: apparently they have a wiki for it (08:57:14 PM) herlo: we do (08:57:22 PM) inode0: and everyone go read the book, it is great (08:57:40 PM) ***herlo moves over to #fedora-ambassadors (08:57:41 PM) ***ke4qqq is done (08:57:55 PM) QUICKSTART: well I'm done one question what does f-a-l stand for (08:57:59 PM) inode0: any other business tonight - last chance this year (08:58:06 PM) lcafiero: Quick comment? (08:58:25 PM) DemonJester: QUICKSTART: Fedora Ambassadors List (08:58:30 PM) inode0: QUICKSTART: the mailing list where this book has been discussed (08:58:30 PM) QUICKSTART: ahhhh ok (08:58:37 PM) QUICKSTART: k (08:58:42 PM) inode0: lcafiero go (08:59:06 PM) lcafiero: Still talking to SCaLE about FADNA, but would like to ping everyone even on list about their feelings about whether to have it at SCaLE or LFNW (08:59:15 PM) herlo: LFNW (08:59:20 PM) inode0: neither (08:59:25 PM) lcafiero: SCaLE is interested in having us, LFNW is probably more practical. (08:59:31 PM) lcafiero: or inode0's house (08:59:33 PM) ***ke4qqq votes against SCALE (08:59:35 PM) lcafiero: I forgot that option. (08:59:49 PM) ke4qqq: simply for $$$ reasons (08:59:50 PM) ***inode0 votes for being champions of the new model (08:59:57 PM) QUICKSTART: well I must leave goodnight and good luck for the next year Happy New Year all (09:00:04 PM) herlo: gnight (09:00:08 PM) lcafiero: Again we can hash this out on list (09:00:19 PM) inode0: getting a fedora activity day arranged with infrastructure or another group within fedora (09:00:20 PM) lcafiero: done here. (09:00:41 PM) inode0: spending a weekend just doing FAD (09:00:49 PM) DemonJester: inode0: that more than likely means East Coast then since most are located there. (09:01:14 PM) inode0: I don't think so (09:02:00 PM) inode0: Max is going to announce this more widely in the coming days, I would really like to see if any other groups come forward wanting to join us. (09:02:43 PM) inode0: It is very likely it can be funded with travel for critical people. (09:02:52 PM) ke4qqq: inode0: I thought it was announced already (09:02:54 PM) ke4qqq: on FAB (09:03:09 PM) inode0: not beyond the board and marketing (09:03:11 PM) herlo: it needs to be blogged and emailed on other lists imo (09:03:46 PM) ***herlo thinks we're done?? (09:03:51 PM) lcafiero: +1 (09:03:53 PM) inode0: not yet though, board feedback is needed (09:04:09 PM) inode0: then more announcements will happen (09:04:35 PM) inode0: but I think it is going to happen and we should try to make it work (09:04:53 PM) herlo: famnarequests discussion in #fedora-ambassadors in 42 seconds... (09:05:18 PM) inode0: ok, any other business for this year? (09:05:32 PM) inode0: 5 (09:05:35 PM) inode0: 4 (09:05:37 PM) inode0: 3 (09:05:39 PM) inode0: 2 (09:05:43 PM) inode0: 1 (09:06:07 PM) ***DemonJester heads to store for food. (09:06:09 PM) inode0: thank you everyone, tonight and for about the past 6 months - we're learning and I hope getting better (09:06:12 PM) inode0: EOF From inode0 at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 03:44:35 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:44:35 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2008-12-31 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 9:38 PM, inode0 wrote: > ... > I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new > ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight. Bah, botched the Summary subject on this one ... oh well, something had to go haywire at the end of going through meeting records for the past 4 months today. I guess if you actually got this far you'll know this is the summary and not the minutes. John From inode0 at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 04:49:47 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 22:49:47 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meetings Revisited Message-ID: We have been having weekly meetings on Tuesday nights now for 6 months. A lot has been accomplished and perhaps it is time to reconsider the frequency and timing of our meetings again. Several of us feel that moving to twice a month meetings would be appropriate now to keep our initiatives moving forward without being overly burdensome on ambassadors who want to participate. Are folks ready to renegotiate this for the new year? Are there ambassadors out there who would like to join us for meetings but for whom Tuesday night just won't work? If so, please make suggestions now and we'll see if we can accommodate everyone's schedules. Thanks, John From ianweller at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 04:59:25 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 22:59:25 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meetings Revisited In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090105045925.GB2577@gmail.com> On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 10:49:47PM -0600, inode0 wrote: > We have been having weekly meetings on Tuesday nights now for 6 > months. A lot has been accomplished and perhaps it is time to > reconsider the frequency and timing of our meetings again. Several of > us feel that moving to twice a month meetings would be appropriate now > to keep our initiatives moving forward without being overly burdensome > on ambassadors who want to participate. > > Are folks ready to renegotiate this for the new year? Are there > ambassadors out there who would like to join us for meetings but for > whom Tuesday night just won't work? If so, please make suggestions now > and we'll see if we can accommodate everyone's schedules. > Tuesday nights are off and on for me. -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From slasherzee at yahoo.com Mon Jan 5 05:44:17 2009 From: slasherzee at yahoo.com (Doug Berry) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:44:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meetings Revisited In-Reply-To: <20090105045925.GB2577@gmail.com> Message-ID: <783004.86264.qm@web63501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 1/4/09, Ian Weller wrote: A lot has been accomplished and perhaps it is > time to > > reconsider the frequency and timing of our meetings > again. Several of > > us feel that moving to twice a month meetings would be > appropriate now > > to keep our initiatives moving forward without being > overly burdensome > > on ambassadors who want to participate. > > > > Are folks ready to renegotiate this for the new year? > Are there > > ambassadors out there who would like to join us for > meetings but for > > whom Tuesday night just won't work? If so, please > make suggestions now > > and we'll see if we can accommodate everyone's > schedules. > > > Tuesday nights are off and on for me. Me too. And the marketing meetings in the afternoon, I haven't been able to make one yet. I do read the logs though. -- Douglas Berry -- slasherzee at fedoraproject.org From inode0 at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 05:49:14 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 23:49:14 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meetings Revisited In-Reply-To: <783004.86264.qm@web63501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <20090105045925.GB2577@gmail.com> <783004.86264.qm@web63501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Doug Berry wrote: > --- On Sun, 1/4/09, Ian Weller wrote: >> Tuesday nights are off and on for me. > > Me too. And the marketing meetings in the afternoon, I > haven't been able to make one yet. I do read the logs > though. It would be very helpful, and it is in fact going to be required, if you'd like to attend the meetings but can't at the current time for you to suggest some times when you could for us to consider. Thanks, John From ianweller at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 06:17:19 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 00:17:19 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meetings Revisited In-Reply-To: References: <20090105045925.GB2577@gmail.com> <783004.86264.qm@web63501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090105061719.GA5608@gmail.com> On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 11:49:14PM -0600, inode0 wrote: > It would be very helpful, and it is in fact going to be required, if > you'd like to attend the meetings but can't at the current time for > you to suggest some times when you could for us to consider. > Perhaps make a large meeting matrix on the wiki -- days on one side, times on another -- and have everyone initial when they can attend. i.e., https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields/ReleaseDay/MeetingMatrix -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But, I've put together the initial agenda page for the January meeting, which will be on the 14th of the month. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-01-14 Thanks, Max From irashadul at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 08:33:57 2009 From: irashadul at gmail.com (Rashadul Islam) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:33:57 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meetings Revisited In-Reply-To: <20090105061719.GA5608@gmail.com> References: <20090105045925.GB2577@gmail.com> <783004.86264.qm@web63501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <20090105061719.GA5608@gmail.com> Message-ID: <17fa59580901050033s7ad7af69x14c1952a7fc7086b@mail.gmail.com> Dear all: First, a very groovy new year 2009 to u all. and, sorry I could not attend most meeting since last 2 months. I am in Bangladesh right now for my personal and family problems. I will keep up-to-date through email, minutes and fedora wiki. I will be with you all soon . 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Even though the meetings are in the middle of the night local time for me, I do follow the minutes, and whenever I am in a time zone that will allow me to attend, I will. Thank you so much for all your hard work. --Max From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 5 09:06:29 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 10:06:29 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Message-ID: <200901051006.44432.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear Ambassadors, let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Gong from XiaMen, FuJian, China https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jyulliano from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Regards Joerg p.s. 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There are a few details that you must provide -- see the wiki page and email them to me. I will gather everything together and give it to Frederic and the FOSDEM organizers. (3) Look at the list of stuff we need on the wiki and see what you can bring. Thank you. --Max From pcalarco at nd.edu Mon Jan 5 12:23:32 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 07:23:32 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meetings Revisited In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4961FBC4.10400@nd.edu> inode0 wrote: > We have been having weekly meetings on Tuesday nights now for 6 > months. A lot has been accomplished and perhaps it is time to > reconsider the frequency and timing of our meetings again. Several of > us feel that moving to twice a month meetings would be appropriate now > to keep our initiatives moving forward without being overly burdensome > on ambassadors who want to participate. > > Are folks ready to renegotiate this for the new year? Are there > ambassadors out there who would like to join us for meetings but for > whom Tuesday night just won't work? If so, please make suggestions now > and we'll see if we can accommodate everyone's schedules. > > Thanks, > John > Hi John -- I hope to be able to make most of the meetings from here on out. Monday or Thursday nights would be slightly better for me, but I can make most Tuesday nights (but not tomorrow evening). Happy 2009, all! - pascal > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Jan 5 12:38:12 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 13:38:12 +0100 (CET) Subject: Event Boxes (was Re: [Ambassadors] SCaLE 7x Booth Preparations) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 25 Dec 2008, Clint Savage wrote: > In addition, I'd like to see some new banners to put into the Fedora > EventBox[3] and some posters for the four f's (this is indeed our new > mantra) as well. I know this art is already created, we just need to > get it in place. Thus, I suggest we update the EventBox(en) out there > with these materials ASAP. I've seen discussion of this in IRC and > mailing lists. If you know anything about this, please respond here > with that information as well. I think it would be smart to use some of the budget that we have in the current quarter to make things like posters and to stock up event boxes not just in North America, but also in EMEA. Let's buy all the reusable things we need for the upcoming event season in January and February, because it's a very good time to spend that kind of money, from a budget point of view. --Max From bpowell01 at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 14:50:30 2009 From: bpowell01 at gmail.com (Brian Powell) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 09:50:30 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meetings Revisited In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <96365e610901050650n5eda09fbw7bf254b65d0f101f@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:49 PM, inode0 wrote: > We have been having weekly meetings on Tuesday nights now for 6 > months. A lot has been accomplished and perhaps it is time to > reconsider the frequency and timing of our meetings again. Several of > us feel that moving to twice a month meetings would be appropriate now > to keep our initiatives moving forward without being overly burdensome > on ambassadors who want to participate. > > Are folks ready to renegotiate this for the new year? Are there > ambassadors out there who would like to join us for meetings but for > whom Tuesday night just won't work? If so, please make suggestions now > and we'll see if we can accommodate everyone's schedules. > > Thanks, > John > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > For me personally, I prefer the current day and time. If we do decide to change it, I am unable to do Wednesday's and anything earlier than the current meeting times (at least during the week) would be rough for me to make due to family. I am not real crazy about weekend meetings. Regardless, whatever we come up with if I am unable to attend, I will simply read the posted logs from the meeting. -- Regards, Brian Powell http://fedoraproject.org http://wnylug.org From fhornain at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 19:05:15 2009 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:05:15 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] important FOSDEM details In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3161376e0901051105j6f61131cq33b40545528c120e@mail.gmail.com> Dear Max, Thanks for this. I am going to keep you in touch as soon as I will have updates. FYI, tomorrow, i am going to contact CentOS guys in order to know their FOSDEM planning. Best Rergards Frederic Have fun with F10. On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > Hi Ambassadors, > > FOSDEM planning is coming together well. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2009 > > I need everyone to do a few things before Wednesday: > > (1) Make sure that you have signed up on the wiki if you are attending. > > (2) Sign up to give a talk in the Fedora Devroom, please! We need more > speakers. There are a few details that you must provide -- see the wiki > page and email them to me. I will gather everything together and give it to > Frederic and the FOSDEM organizers. > > (3) Look at the list of stuff we need on the wiki and see what you can > bring. > > Thank you. > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nacross at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 18:47:59 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 12:47:59 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome In-Reply-To: <200901031312.59565.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200901031312.59565.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: 2009/1/3 JoergSimon : > Dear Ambassadors, > > let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Elquintu from Cuenca, Ecuador > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rtnpro from Durgapur, India > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jsmidt from Irvine, USA > I always like to see new people added to the growing list of fedora ambassadors. Is nice to see new people like Joseph Smidt from USA and Ratnadeep Debnath from India. But it makes more happy to see people from Latin America to join the Fedora Ambassadors. To Edisson, the new Ecuatorian Fedora Amabassador, a warm welcome from Nicaragua. Best regards -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 5 21:49:09 2009 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 22:49:09 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo Meeting - IRC Log 2009-01-05 Message-ID: This is the log of the FAmSCo IRC Meeting hold Monday 5th Jannuary at 20.00 UTC in #fedora-meeting. Raw log: (09:04:09 PM) spevack: let's start (09:04:18 PM) fugolini: ah, ok (09:04:24 PM) spevack: is everyone else here? (09:04:31 PM) fugolini: so, roll call (09:04:40 PM) fugolini: Francesco Ugolini (09:04:41 PM) spevack: Max Spevack (09:04:58 PM) MrTom: Thomas Canniot (09:05:00 PM) ke4qqq: David Nalley (09:05:01 PM) susmit: SusmitShannigrahi (09:05:16 PM) ***fugolini is getting a terrible cold (09:05:30 PM) kital: JoergSimon (09:05:55 PM) fugolini: Meeting agenda: 1) FAmSCo Chair Election (09:06:01 PM) onekopaka [n=onekopak at c-76-121-249-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] entered the room. (09:06:07 PM) fugolini: 2) Meeting schedule (09:06:08 PM) onekopaka: okay (09:06:30 PM) onekopaka: sorry (09:06:39 PM) ***spevack was lagging, but is back now (09:07:01 PM) spevack: hello? (09:07:03 PM) fugolini: I collected Max suggestion in one topic (09:07:12 PM) fugolini: so, 1) FAmSCo Chair Election (09:07:33 PM) spevack: ! Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work (09:07:40 PM) fugolini: spevack: (09:07:48 PM) ***fugolini is searching for the right wiki link to give (09:08:23 PM) spevack: before we jump right into this, i think we should say welcome to our new famsco members, and talk about some of the things that Famsco is currently responsible for, that need to be continued, and then some of the things that Ambassadors have told us they would like Famsco to be more active on (09:08:45 PM) fugolini: Yes, I was going to do this :) (09:09:01 PM) spevack: fugolini: ok, go ahead :) (09:09:23 PM) fugolini: have you finished? (09:10:07 PM) spevack: if you are going to talk about it, then I have finished, yes. EOF (09:10:20 PM) fugolini: feel free to finish (09:10:31 PM) spevack: ok (09:11:09 PM) fugolini: sorry but I've a terrible cold ... forgive me if I'm interrupting you (09:11:17 PM) spevack: well, the two big things that Famsco has been doing are the membership verificatio -- which I prefer to call Mentoring and Training of new Ambassadors -- and I think that we need to focus on that process -- not only the technical work that kital has started, but the softer side of training people on how to be goo Fedora Ambassadors (09:11:42 PM) spevack: I did a Fedora Classroom session on that a while back, and I will do more. (09:11:42 PM) spevack: the technical work that kital has done is fantastic (09:11:43 PM) spevack: and i thank him for it. (09:11:43 PM) onekopaka: isn't this websites? (09:11:56 PM) spevack: no, this is the fedora ambassadors meeting onekopaka :) (09:12:00 PM) onekopaka: no wonder. (09:12:06 PM) spevack: onekopaka: :) (09:12:16 PM) kital: thanks spevack ;) (09:12:24 PM) ***onekopaka sighs (09:12:28 PM) onekopaka left the room. (09:12:35 PM) spevack: i think we need to make sure that we also provide proper resources that teach people how to organize events, how to do public speaking, how to speak about a specific message, etc. (09:12:35 PM) Zool^ [n=kaland at 19.81-166-29.customer.lyse.net] entered the room. (09:12:49 PM) spevack: also the other big thing we do in famsco is manage the budget for ambassadors and global events (09:13:04 PM) spevack: which has a lot of sharing with Red Hat's Community Architecture budget, and therefore the overall budget for Fedora. (09:13:13 PM) spevack: the place where i think there is room to continue to grow (09:13:21 PM) spevack: is in solidifying the processes across different parts of the world (09:13:27 PM) spevack: and making sure that things don't diverge too wildly (09:13:32 PM) spevack: what one region figures out and optimizesa (09:13:36 PM) spevack: neeeds to be shared (09:13:42 PM) spevack: we want local leadership and authority (09:13:45 PM) spevack: but we don't want silos (09:13:55 PM) spevack: famsco also must be the clearing-house for worldwide activity (09:14:15 PM) spevack: I am personally very keen on the expanded "Fedora Activity Day" idea for this coming year, and I think FAMSCO can be very active in helping to make that successful worldwide. (09:14:20 PM) spevack: EOF (09:14:21 PM) spevack: EOF (09:14:24 PM) spevack: any thoughts or comments? (09:14:33 PM) spevack: oh, and happy new year :) (09:14:42 PM) kital: ! yes (09:14:43 PM) fugolini: I agree completely with your toughts (09:14:54 PM) fugolini: and happy new year to you too :) Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work (09:15:50 PM) kital: today i have updated the join page as herlo requested it https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Join (09:16:03 PM) spevack: kital: fantastic! (09:16:10 PM) fugolini: spevack: in that way the fedorahosted group (FAmSCo) was build? (09:16:23 PM) fugolini: kital: wonderful (09:16:37 PM) kital: i have clarified the steps and have added the regional mentors (09:16:55 PM) fugolini: I mean, all those BIG goals and the way to achieve them (09:17:03 PM) spevack: fugolini: i don't know about how the fedorahosted group was built. i think someone made it, and it's up to us to figure out how we want to use it (09:17:11 PM) kital: every new sponsored Ambassador gets a welcome message with a (09:17:15 PM) kital: I would like to introduce you to our Community Mentors from your region, where (09:17:15 PM) kital: you can ask for help or point your ideas: (09:17:15 PM) kital: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Robert (09:17:19 PM) kital: ... (09:17:20 PM) kital: eof (09:17:31 PM) spevack: kital: you should write in your blog about the new Join page, if you want to. if not, I will write about it. (09:17:36 PM) fugolini: kital: I like the idea, great job (09:17:49 PM) susmit: ! (09:17:51 PM) spevack: kital: i really like the page (09:18:04 PM) spevack: it's starting to be more organized (09:18:06 PM) kital: spevack - please blog about (09:18:08 PM) fugolini: Anyone want to say something about the FAmSCo perspective and so on? (09:18:12 PM) spevack: kital: ok, i will (09:18:46 PM) onekopaka [n=onekopak at c-76-121-249-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] entered the room. (09:18:50 PM) susmit: I can take care of the fedorahosted... (09:19:14 PM) susmit: for other thing, I am more interested to have an outline of how to follow up the FADs.. (09:19:14 PM) ***herlo is looking at the changes kital made right now (09:19:17 PM) petreu| [n=peter at p3EE3F14D.dip.t-dialin.net] entered the room. (09:19:25 PM) fugolini: I think we need to divided all the task and create some groups (09:19:33 PM) fugolini: *tasks (09:19:47 PM) fugolini: like it was in the first/second FAmSCos (09:19:56 PM) spevack: susmit: let's give you the fedorahosted action item, and i'll take the FAD action item, since it's up to me to explain further that vision. (09:20:13 PM) susmit: thanks (09:20:19 PM) spevack: fugolini: yeah, we need to break down the main goals and tasks, and ensure that they each have an owner (09:20:27 PM) spevack: and the famsco chair needs to be responsible for making sure things happen (09:20:31 PM) spevack: and that new tasks are added as needed (09:20:36 PM) fugolini: spevack: +1 (09:20:46 PM) susmit: +1 (09:20:50 PM) kital: +1 (09:21:45 PM) fugolini: So, FAmSCo Chair election? (09:22:01 PM) spevack: sure. (09:22:09 PM) spevack: how does it work? (09:22:49 PM) fugolini: spevack: we could used self-nomination, nomination system (09:22:54 PM) spevack: if he wants to do it again, I nominate francesco. if he wants to not be the chair this year, i understand that also. but i think he did a great job and deserves a nomination. (09:23:05 PM) MrTom: +1 (09:23:08 PM) kital: +1 <- he did a great job (09:23:08 PM) susmit: +1 (09:24:36 PM) fugolini: there are a lot experienced ambassadors/contibutors in this FAmSCo (and in the past FAmSCos too), (09:25:03 PM) fugolini: if you thing you could do this task better than me, I'm asking you to tell me (09:25:12 PM) spevack: it's not even about that. (09:25:28 PM) kital: i think we should proceed with the good direction we have with your leadership (09:25:29 PM) spevack: if there is someone else who would like to nominate themselves or nominate someone else for the leadership role, then speak up pleaes Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work (09:25:44 PM) ***MrTom won't tell anything then (09:25:45 PM) spevack: there are plenty of leadership opportunities in famsco for everyone (09:25:54 PM) spevack: it doesn't matter what we call ourselves. (09:26:20 PM) spevack: . (09:26:21 PM) spevack: . (09:26:22 PM) spevack: . (09:26:24 PM) fugolini: spevack, kital both of you demonstrates great leadership in Ambassadors, so (09:26:41 PM) spevack: fugolini, do you accept what seems to be a unanimous nomination for another year as famsco chair? (09:26:41 PM) ***kital thinks fugolini is simple the best choice (09:26:54 PM) ***MrTom agrees Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work (09:27:05 PM) ***susmit nods (09:27:11 PM) fugolini: spevack: yes, I'm really delighted (09:27:32 PM) spevack: ke4qqq: +1 from you also? (09:27:34 PM) MrTom: the king is dead, long live the kink :D (09:27:39 PM) kital: ;) (09:27:43 PM) MrTom: s/kink king (09:27:43 PM) ke4qqq: sorry yes (09:27:48 PM) fugolini: lol (09:27:52 PM) ***ke4qqq votes for fugolini (09:27:59 PM) spevack: alright francesco, you're still the boss. :) now give us some orders! (09:28:06 PM) susmit: :) (09:28:16 PM) fugolini: I prefer to call them inputs ghghghgh :D (09:28:17 PM) MrTom: what a landslide for fugolini :) stickster StillBob (09:29:04 PM) fugolini: so, now Fedora Board has to approve this nomination, like the past year I'll send an email to stickster (09:29:11 PM) balor [n=balor at gimili.plus.com] entered the room. (09:29:18 PM) spevack: ok, what else must we discuss today? i think this meeting is used to sort out the logistics of the new famsco. (09:29:26 PM) spevack: and then we get to work on the mailing list and in future meetings (09:29:27 PM) fugolini: spevack: Meeting schedule (09:29:31 PM) spevack: is everyone in famsco on the mailing list? Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work (09:29:39 PM) spevack: has the mailing list been updated with the current membership? (09:29:42 PM) fugolini: spevack: I added all the people (09:29:47 PM) spevack: great (09:29:52 PM) spevack: ok, meeting schedule then. (09:29:52 PM) fugolini: both in M-l and in FAS (09:30:02 PM) stickster: fugolini just answered stickster's question :_) stickster StillBob (09:30:16 PM) fugolini: stickster: ok (09:30:19 PM) fugolini: :) (09:30:33 PM) fugolini: I think we have to figure out a possible meeting time that could work for everyone (09:31:18 PM) ***stickster happy to see fugolini continuing as the FAMSCo chair. (09:31:22 PM) fugolini: expecially because this time FAmSCo members are living in the most different time zones stickster StillBob (09:31:36 PM) spevack: what is the furthest west and furthest east time zone we deal with? (09:31:44 PM) fugolini: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings/Calendar (09:31:45 PM) spevack: susmit is furthest east... (09:31:48 PM) stickster: fugolini: I'm pretty sure the Board will be unanimous in its support too :-) (09:31:53 PM) spevack: is brazil or US east coast further west? (09:31:58 PM) ke4qqq: I think I am the first west (09:31:58 PM) ajax: dang, seems you can't go straight from f7+ to f11 (09:32:01 PM) ke4qqq: furthest stickster StillBob (09:32:12 PM) spevack: ajax: it's worth a try though :) (09:32:14 PM) fugolini: stickster: thank you, so (09:32:15 PM) dgilmore: spevack: brasil is further east (09:32:16 PM) spevack: ajax: blame seth (09:32:39 PM) stickster: fugolini: It's nice to see the new FAMSCo sees all the hard work you helped lead previously (09:32:54 PM) spevack: ok, so the spread is 9 hours (09:33:11 PM) fugolini: a big leap (09:33:22 PM) spevack: well, i guess fugolini wants to use the little table matrix to try to sort this out? (09:33:39 PM) fugolini: yep (09:34:07 PM) fugolini: if everyone agree (09:34:37 PM) spevack: sure, people just need to fill it in by wednesday so we can figure out a meeting time to start next week. (09:34:41 PM) fugolini: I think it's important to have all of you, not because there are hard discussion, but it's the only place to share simoulaniously (09:34:49 PM) fugolini: *simultaniously (09:35:07 PM) spevack: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings/Calendar Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work (09:35:14 PM) spevack: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ use this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (09:35:25 PM) fugolini: spevack: absolutely ! Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work (09:36:50 PM) fugolini: so another important point spevack pointed was how many times we will meet: weekly, monthly .... (09:36:53 PM) fugolini: ? (09:37:10 PM) fugolini: I think it will help to have a better idea on the calendar too. (09:37:11 PM) MrTom: ! (09:37:13 PM) fugolini: MrTom: (09:37:39 PM) spevack: fugolini: may i share my thoughts? (09:37:41 PM) MrTom: well as lots of meeting were canceled last year (one out of two approximately) (09:37:56 PM) MrTom: I thinkg we should continue to have a weekly pace meeting (09:37:58 PM) fugolini: spevack: yes, it's a pleasure to hear you (09:38:00 PM) MrTom: eof (09:38:16 PM) fugolini: MrTom: thanks (09:38:33 PM) spevack: I think we should have weekly meetings for the time being, and try to focus each week on one of the specific tasks that we are working on -- one or two -- instead of all of them. depending on what is most important. (09:39:01 PM) spevack: but with new energy (09:39:04 PM) spevack: and some new people (09:39:06 PM) spevack: and new priorities (09:39:12 PM) fugolini: good point, it's an interesting perspective (09:39:18 PM) spevack: i think we will have enough to fill the time. (09:39:20 PM) spevack: it was embarassing to me that famsco meetings were cancelled last year (09:39:24 PM) spevack: i want us to do better this year (09:39:36 PM) fugolini: sure (09:39:41 PM) spevack: EOF (09:40:14 PM) fugolini: Any other proposal? (09:40:21 PM) fugolini: if not we move to vote: mbonnet mbonnet_ McGiwer mdomsch mizmo mmcgrath MrTom m_stone mxcarron (09:40:54 PM) fugolini: 1) MrTom proposal: weekly meeting Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work (09:41:16 PM) kital: +1 (09:41:23 PM) spevack: i think it is another landslide :) (09:41:24 PM) fugolini: +1 (09:41:26 PM) spevack: +1 obv (09:41:30 PM) ke4qqq: +1 Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work (09:41:34 PM) susmit: +1 Sparks spevack spoleeba spot spstarr_work (09:41:40 PM) fugolini: MrTom/spevack proposal (09:41:53 PM) spevack: so eveyrone will update the meeting matrix by wednesday, and then we'll get to work Kick_ killefiz kital (09:43:11 PM) spevack: anything else for tonight, fugolini? (09:43:23 PM) fugolini: just a last thing, FAmSCo Chair has to nominate a vice-chair, I'm opening to suggestion, BTW, I think kital has done a great job and it could be a really helpful hand (09:43:43 PM) cferthorney [n=dthorne at 87-194-209-26.bethere.co.uk] entered the room. (09:44:40 PM) fugolini: suggestions? (09:45:12 PM) ***ke4qqq thinks kital is a great choice (09:45:12 PM) spevack: +1 (09:45:13 PM) rdieter is now known as rdieter_away (09:45:16 PM) rdieter [n=rdieter at pcp088903pcs.unl.edu] entered the room. (09:45:55 PM) spevack: fugolini: kital is just the guy to take over if some angry ubuntu ambassadors attacks you. :) (09:46:00 PM) kital: ;) (09:46:02 PM) fugolini: ehehehe (09:46:05 PM) ***susmit thinks too (09:46:10 PM) spevack: actually, kital is the guy i'd want next to me in a fight. no one would ever mess with joerg (09:46:19 PM) MrTom: lol (09:46:23 PM) spevack: whereas someone could snap me like a twig (09:46:32 PM) kital: hihi (09:46:37 PM) fugolini: ehehe (09:47:04 PM) fugolini: so, kital, i assume you have accepted the nomination (09:47:13 PM) ***kital is honoured (09:47:22 PM) kital: yes i will work hard (09:47:30 PM) spevack: you always do :) (09:47:35 PM) fugolini: so, I'll do all the announcement before tomorrow (09:47:39 PM) fugolini: *s (09:48:00 PM) cferthorney left the room. (09:48:03 PM) fugolini: nothing new from my side, from your one? (09:48:24 PM) fugolini: 3 (09:48:25 PM) kital: just a side note (09:48:29 PM) fugolini: tell us (09:49:00 PM) kital: today i chatted with nman64 and i joined him as a Administrator of Ambassador Group (09:49:10 PM) fugolini: great (09:49:15 PM) kital: i will automate some FAS Tasks and i hope this will help (09:49:16 PM) kital: me (09:49:20 PM) kital: eof (09:49:46 PM) fugolini: it's a great news. (09:50:09 PM) spevack: good (09:50:15 PM) susmit: kital, I shall be happy to help (09:50:16 PM) spevack: what's up with nman64? (09:50:19 PM) fugolini: thank you for your job (09:50:21 PM) spevack: haven't heard from him in a very long time (09:50:38 PM) CheekyBoinc left the room (quit: "Use Fedora Linux -> fedoraproject.org ++ www.cheekyboinc.de ++"). (09:50:47 PM) kital: ;) he is always around and listen (09:51:05 PM) nman64: spevack: Not active with Fedora, but ever present and watchful. ;-) (09:51:18 PM) spevack: hey man! happy new year! (09:51:32 PM) nman64: spevack: Happy New Year! (09:51:37 PM) spevack: it's just good to see you around patrick (09:51:43 PM) spevack: so, are we done with our meeting? (09:51:58 PM) fugolini: == Meeting adjourned == Best regards Francesco Ugolini From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 5 21:51:20 2009 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 22:51:20 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo Chair Appointment Message-ID: During new FAmSCo's first IRC meeting [1], I [2] was confirmed as FAmSCo Chair. According to the FAmSCo Election Rules [3], it's necessary that Fedora Board confirms the new FAmSCo Chair to officialize the result: Paul Frields made it during the same meeting. I accepted this role with the acknoledgement that FAmSCo is going to have a really busy year, with big challanges, great goals but sure that the whole community will be the center of all its work. This FAmSCo, with its great elected members inside, is going to represent, for the first time, all the 4 main areas (NA, LATAM, APAC and EMEA): this is a great beginning and I'm sure you should expect more during this year. All my wishes go to all the FAmSCo members and all Ambassadors: with team work we will be able to score another point for Fedora and its wonderfull community! [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-January/msg00046.html [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Election/Rules Best regards on behalf of FAmSCo Francesco Ugolini From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 5 22:02:28 2009 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:02:28 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo Vice-Chair Appointment Message-ID: It a honor to appoint Joerg Simon [1] as FAmSCo Vice-Chair. Joerg is the most active (if not the only) Ambassadors Membership Administrator and, of course, a fellow FAmSCo member. He served since the early beginning as one of the most active, wise Fedora Ambassador, he helped past FAmSCo taking care of all the membership aspects and giving his precious point of view. He is a really important brick in the Fedora community and it's a really pleasure for me to share with him the lead of the FAmSCo. Thank you Joerg to have accepted this. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Best regards on behalf of FAmSCo Francesco Ugolini From herlo1 at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 22:28:12 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:28:12 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo Vice-Chair Appointment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > It a honor to appoint Joerg Simon [1] as FAmSCo Vice-Chair. > > Joerg is the most active (if not the only) Ambassadors Membership > Administrator and, of course, a fellow FAmSCo member. Which begs the question, how dos one become an Ambassadors Membershp Administrator? I see no way to sign up, get voted in or the like. Would you mind putting this process on the wiki, or if it is, point me to it? I'd love to help in this manner as needed. Cheers, Clint From lnxknight at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 22:39:43 2009 From: lnxknight at gmail.com (Matt McKenzie) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:39:43 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meetings Revisited In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I will add one more request to change it. When this was discussed earlier I started a thread, and a number of people replied they would like a different time, but it basically went no-where. So for this time, how many people do we need before we change it? At any rate, I am open to any time except Tuesday nights. Preference: Wednesday or Thursday nights. I am in PDT. As far as frequency, whatever we need to get things done, I don't mind weekly but perhaps bi-weekly would be better. ---------- Matt M. LinuxKnight On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:49 PM, inode0 wrote: > We have been having weekly meetings on Tuesday nights now for 6 > months. A lot has been accomplished and perhaps it is time to > reconsider the frequency and timing of our meetings again. Several of > us feel that moving to twice a month meetings would be appropriate now > to keep our initiatives moving forward without being overly burdensome > on ambassadors who want to participate. > > Are folks ready to renegotiate this for the new year? Are there > ambassadors out there who would like to join us for meetings but for > whom Tuesday night just won't work? If so, please make suggestions now > and we'll see if we can accommodate everyone's schedules. > > Thanks, > John > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From herlo at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 6 00:24:28 2009 From: herlo at fedoraproject.org (Clint Savage) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:24:28 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meetings Revisited In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2009/1/5 Matt McKenzie : > I will add one more request to change it. > When this was discussed earlier I started a thread, and a number of people > replied they would like a different time, but it basically went no-where. > > So for this time, how many people do we need before we change it? > > At any rate, I am open to any time except Tuesday nights. Preference: > Wednesday or Thursday nights. > I am in PDT. > > As far as frequency, whatever we need to get things done, I don't mind > weekly but perhaps bi-weekly would be better. > > ---------- > Matt M. > LinuxKnight So, I've been thinking about this discussion for some time. I'm heavily invested in Tuesday evenings and changing from that time/date would probably cause me to be unable to attend the meetings. As I am seeing, most people seem to be okay with Tuesdays, though I think only having two meetings a month would not be a bad idea. Also, if we had one meeting on Tuesday late and and another one some other day and earler in the day, it might just work. Who knows. I want to argue one other thing, and it might sound a little snide, but it is not intended that way. My opinion is that while we want more participation in meetings and the like, changing the date isn't necessarily going to make that better. The people who dedicate themselves to attending a meeting, or reschedule their lives around the meeting are the ones we want to attend. They will be ones doing the work and committing themselves to the opportunities. We should at least be willing to recognize that the progress we've made over the last 6 months has been quite incredible. What I like about this accomplishment is that we all committed to doing the work, it didn't matter when or how, it just got done. That's what is important. Just my $.0233333... Cheers, Clint From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 6 08:07:16 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:07:16 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [Famsco-list] FAmSCo Vice-Chair Appointment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200901060907.21016.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Montag, 5. Januar 2009 23:02:28 schrieb Francesco Ugolini: > It a honor to appoint Joerg Simon [1] as FAmSCo Vice-Chair. > Joerg is the most active (if not the only) Ambassadors Membership > Administrator and, of course, a fellow FAmSCo member. He served since > the early beginning as one of the most active, wise Fedora Ambassador, > he helped past FAmSCo taking care of all the membership aspects and > giving his precious point of view. Thanks to all famsco Members. Work is not always visible, without the help of you all and especially FabianAffolter i could not have done it so well as you say. cu Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 6 08:34:41 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:34:41 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo Vice-Chair Appointment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200901060934.45755.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Montag, 5. Januar 2009 23:28:12 schrieb Clint Savage: > Which begs the question, how dos one become an Ambassadors Membershp > Administrator? I see no way to sign up, get voted in or the like. I can only say how it was in my case ;) - I was invited by FabianAffolter the former famsco vice chair to fill a gap because ThomasChung could no longer maintain AMA. Traditionally the famsco chair or vice chair were "the" AMA. It has turned out that this "daily" work has to be done constantly and has to reported to famsco through the famsco-list. > Would you mind putting this process on the wiki, or if it is, point me > to it? I'd love to help in this manner as needed. Right now Fabian has to work a lot for his studies, he can not help me so much as he wish. Good to know that you are a candidate! The plan for 2009 is more automation and measurability and we will speak about support for AMA in the famsco Meeting. Regards Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From luca at foppiano.org Tue Jan 6 10:33:25 2009 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:33:25 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo Chair Appointment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1231238005.3539.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 22:51 +0100, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > During new FAmSCo's first IRC meeting [1], I [2] was confirmed as FAmSCo Chair. Congratulation! I think FAmSCo did a really good choice.. Luca -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 6th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3175 What I want to find out is -- do parrots know much about Astro-Turf? From pcalarco at nd.edu Tue Jan 6 12:21:53 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:21:53 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meetings Revisited In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49634CE1.5080201@nd.edu> Clint Savage wrote: > 2009/1/5 Matt McKenzie : > >> I will add one more request to change it. >> When this was discussed earlier I started a thread, and a number of people >> replied they would like a different time, but it basically went no-where. >> >> So for this time, how many people do we need before we change it? >> >> At any rate, I am open to any time except Tuesday nights. Preference: >> Wednesday or Thursday nights. >> I am in PDT. >> >> As far as frequency, whatever we need to get things done, I don't mind >> weekly but perhaps bi-weekly would be better. >> >> ---------- >> Matt M. >> LinuxKnight >> > > So, I've been thinking about this discussion for some time. I'm > heavily invested in Tuesday evenings and changing from that time/date > would probably cause me to be unable to attend the meetings. As I am > seeing, most people seem to be okay with Tuesdays, though I think only > having two meetings a month would not be a bad idea. Also, if we had > one meeting on Tuesday late and and another one some other day and > earler in the day, it might just work. Who knows. > > I want to argue one other thing, and it might sound a little snide, > but it is not intended that way. My opinion is that while we want > more participation in meetings and the like, changing the date isn't > necessarily going to make that better. The people who dedicate > themselves to attending a meeting, or reschedule their lives around > the meeting are the ones we want to attend. They will be ones doing > the work and committing themselves to the opportunities. We should > at least be willing to recognize that the progress we've made over the > last 6 months has been quite incredible. What I like about this > accomplishment is that we all committed to doing the work, it didn't > matter when or how, it just got done. That's what is important. > > Just my $.0233333... > > Cheers, > > Clint > +1 Those who really want to make this a priority and have the time to do so will schedule around this to participate, and Clint has done a fabulous job this past year (with the participation of a core of others), which is a testament to their dedication to Fedora. I think many of us in FAmNA can probably rearrange a Tuesday night now and again to participate as we are able. Best, - pascal From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Jan 6 13:12:57 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:12:57 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Famsco-list] Re: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo Vice-Chair Appointment In-Reply-To: <200901060934.45755.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200901060934.45755.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, JoergSimon wrote: >> Would you mind putting this process on the wiki, or if it is, point >> me to it? I'd love to help in this manner as needed. > > Right now Fabian has to work a lot for his studies, he can not help me > so much as he wish. Good to know that you are a candidate! The plan > for 2009 is more automation and measurability and we will speak about > support for AMA in the famsco Meeting. Joerg, Is the description of the process that we use for membership verification on the wiki somewhere? --Max From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 6 14:14:16 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:14:16 +0100 Subject: [Famsco-list] Re: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo Vice-Chair Appointment In-Reply-To: References: <200901060934.45755.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <200901061514.21326.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Dienstag, 6. Januar 2009 14:12:57 schrieb Max Spevack: > On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, JoergSimon wrote: > >> Would you mind putting this process on the wiki, or if it is, point > >> me to it? I'd love to help in this manner as needed. > Is the description of the process that we use for membership > verification on the wiki somewhere? The only Link i know https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee#Task_Groups AMA is recruited from famsco members and experienced Ambassadors by decission from famsco. Describtion of Approval Process for Ambassadors is covered by https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Join The verification itself is done by the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification Hope this helps cu Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 6 15:04:42 2009 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 16:04:42 +0100 Subject: [Famsco-list] Re: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo Vice-Chair Appointment In-Reply-To: <200901061514.21326.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200901060934.45755.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <200901061514.21326.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: 2009/1/6 JoergSimon : > Am Dienstag, 6. Januar 2009 14:12:57 schrieb Max Spevack: >> On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, JoergSimon wrote: >> >> Would you mind putting this process on the wiki, or if it is, point >> >> me to it? I'd love to help in this manner as needed. >> Is the description of the process that we use for membership >> verification on the wiki somewhere? > > The only Link i know > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee#Task_Groups > AMA is recruited from famsco members and experienced Ambassadors by decission > from famsco. > > Describtion of Approval Process for Ambassadors is covered by > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Join > > The verification itself is done by the > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification > > Hope this helps > > > cu Joerg > -- > Joerg (kital) Simon > jsimon at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon > http://kitall.blogspot.com > Key Fingerprint: > 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 I agree with Joerg: Membership is a FAmSCo duty. According to what FAmSCo said in the first discussions we had in the early 2008 (if I'm not wrong), it was clearly stated that FAmSCo has the power to "nominate/remove membership administrators". AMAs, infact, has to report periodically about their work: see https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-September/msg00359.html ("Ambassador Membership Service collect and report to Famsco periodically for approval of the new potential Ambassador." and "AMA group is composed by Ambassadors and it's supervised by FAmSCo.") Yes, in that mail it's not clear how AMAs are nominated. BTW if there are trusted community members (like who asked for this clarification) that want to join the team, FAmSCo should take in consideration this: remember we are a open process community and one more hands means a lot for the wealth community. Here a final thought: Membership is a FAmSCo duty, cause it's the only elected body, BTW, it has the power to delegate to trusted people membership administration. FAmSCo is the only responsible body for a good/bad administration of the new ambassadors: that's the reason FAmSCo is the entitled body to nominate administrators, just because it has to guarantee, as a community-elected body, all the Ambassadors. That's all for now. Best regards Francesco Ugolini From inode0 at gmail.com Tue Jan 6 15:10:05 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:10:05 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meetings Revisited In-Reply-To: <49634CE1.5080201@nd.edu> References: <49634CE1.5080201@nd.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Pascal Calarco wrote: > Those who really want to make this a priority and have the time to do so > will schedule around this to participate, and Clint has done a fabulous job > this past year (with the participation of a core of others), which is a > testament to their dedication to Fedora. I think many of us in FAmNA can > probably rearrange a Tuesday night now and again to participate as we are > able. I agree with this sentiment but there are always people who just can't work around certain times. I would like people to not think of this effort as a "vote" on a new time since I also agree it is critical to not cut off those ambassadors who are consistently making big contributions to our efforts. Periodically I would like us to make an effort to accommodate more ambassadors if we can though. This seemed like a good time to reconsider this since I think there is some sentiment to move now to twice a month. Let me get the ball rolling by suggesting a few options that perhaps aren't well thought out but might get us started. Option 1: 1st and 3rd Tuesday at 9pm eastern (whatever that ends in UTC given DST adjustments) - sort of the abbreviated status quo. Option 2: 1st Tuesday at 9pm eastern and 3rd Thursday at 9pm eastern. Option 3: 1st Tuesday at 9pm eastern and 3rd Saturday or Sunday at 2pm eastern - effort to allow others who have expressed interest in attending meetings but don't currently reside in NA as well as others who just don't have evenings free for this while avoiding intruding into regular business hours. Feel free to say which options are impossible for you or which would be extremely unpleasant and offer others you feel would be better. John From axelilly at gmail.com Tue Jan 6 16:08:41 2009 From: axelilly at gmail.com (Jason Fenner) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:08:41 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meetings Revisited In-Reply-To: References: <49634CE1.5080201@nd.edu> Message-ID: I like the time of the meeting but having it on a Monday or a Wednesday would be better for me. 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URL: From bpowell01 at gmail.com Tue Jan 6 16:53:42 2009 From: bpowell01 at gmail.com (Brian Powell) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:53:42 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meetings Revisited In-Reply-To: References: <49634CE1.5080201@nd.edu> Message-ID: <96365e610901060853i73e215e5s189f915891721afb@mail.gmail.com> 2009/1/6 Jason Fenner : > I like the time of the meeting but having it on a Monday or a Wednesday > would be better for me. > > But I like what Clint said, it might be best to leave it where it is and let > people make arrangements to make it to it if they really desire to. > > --Jason > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Option 1 would be my first choice. Option 2 would be my second choice but I may not be able to make Thurs on a frequent basis (depends on schedule intitially, I can probably make it work after about 1 month or 2 of schedule shuffling) Option 3 isn't an option for me as weekends I am normally booked. I would opt for holding "special sessions" on a bi monthly basis on a weekend for inclusion of non-NA Ambassadors, though I may or may not be able to attend these, I would only be missing a meeting every 2 months instead of every month. Just my opinion though, as mentioned if I can attend I will, if not I will simply read the logs. -- Regards, Brian Powell http://fedoraproject.org http://wnylug.org From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue Jan 6 17:56:31 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:56:31 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meetings Revisited In-Reply-To: References: <49634CE1.5080201@nd.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:10 AM, inode0 wrote: > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Pascal Calarco wrote: >> Those who really want to make this a priority and have the time to do so >> will schedule around this to participate, and Clint has done a fabulous job >> this past year (with the participation of a core of others), which is a >> testament to their dedication to Fedora. I think many of us in FAmNA can >> probably rearrange a Tuesday night now and again to participate as we are >> able. > > I agree with this sentiment but there are always people who just can't > work around certain times. I would like people to not think of this > effort as a "vote" on a new time since I also agree it is critical to > not cut off those ambassadors who are consistently making big > contributions to our efforts. Periodically I would like us to make an > effort to accommodate more ambassadors if we can though. This seemed > like a good time to reconsider this since I think there is some > sentiment to move now to twice a month. > Let me get the ball rolling by suggesting a few options that perhaps > aren't well thought out but might get us started. > > Option 1: 1st and 3rd Tuesday at 9pm eastern (whatever that ends in > UTC given DST adjustments) - sort of the abbreviated status quo. > > Option 2: 1st Tuesday at 9pm eastern and 3rd Thursday at 9pm eastern. > I concur with the above statement regarding the changes, and why I suggested previously in my email that we do have meetings on one other day. Thursdays would be the least problematic for me, but I would suggest one change. We meet on the 2nd Tuesday and 4th Thursday (for option 2). I'm only being selfish on that request because it makes it so I can attend *almost* every Thursday. Cheers, Clint From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 6 21:05:30 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 22:05:30 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Message-ID: <200901062205.42537.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear Ambassadors, let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bokal from Bremen, Germany https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dowdle from Montana, USA Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From irashadul at gmail.com Tue Jan 6 21:11:50 2009 From: irashadul at gmail.com (Rashadul Islam) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:41:50 +0030 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meetings Revisited In-Reply-To: References: <49634CE1.5080201@nd.edu> Message-ID: <17fa59580901061311q429f8be8o29f198d056257334@mail.gmail.com> We should set the meeting on TUESDAY (1st and 3rd week, or 2nd and 4th week) as inode mentioned. BUT it should be either after lunch or after dinner. Its easy to say while we do meet and invite new contributor. -Regards Rashadul On 1/6/09, Clint Savage wrote: > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:10 AM, inode0 wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Pascal Calarco wrote: >>> Those who really want to make this a priority and have the time to do so >>> will schedule around this to participate, and Clint has done a fabulous >>> job >>> this past year (with the participation of a core of others), which is a >>> testament to their dedication to Fedora. I think many of us in FAmNA can >>> probably rearrange a Tuesday night now and again to participate as we are >>> able. >> >> I agree with this sentiment but there are always people who just can't >> work around certain times. I would like people to not think of this >> effort as a "vote" on a new time since I also agree it is critical to >> not cut off those ambassadors who are consistently making big >> contributions to our efforts. Periodically I would like us to make an >> effort to accommodate more ambassadors if we can though. This seemed >> like a good time to reconsider this since I think there is some >> sentiment to move now to twice a month. > >> Let me get the ball rolling by suggesting a few options that perhaps >> aren't well thought out but might get us started. >> >> Option 1: 1st and 3rd Tuesday at 9pm eastern (whatever that ends in >> UTC given DST adjustments) - sort of the abbreviated status quo. >> >> Option 2: 1st Tuesday at 9pm eastern and 3rd Thursday at 9pm eastern. >> > > I concur with the above statement regarding the changes, and why I > suggested previously in my email that we do have meetings on one other > day. Thursdays would be the least problematic for me, but I would > suggest one change. We meet on the 2nd Tuesday and 4th Thursday (for > option 2). I'm only being selfish on that request because it makes it > so I can attend *almost* every Thursday. > > Cheers, > > Clint > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Rashadul Islam ---------------------- Fedora Ambassador Canada/Montreal GPG Key 5557BFAC Finger Print 3869 732D FC43 92B4 2805 85DD C072 0238 4C74 3A69 From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Jan 6 21:14:56 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 22:14:56 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meetings Revisited In-Reply-To: <17fa59580901061311q429f8be8o29f198d056257334@mail.gmail.com> References: <49634CE1.5080201@nd.edu> <17fa59580901061311q429f8be8o29f198d056257334@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Rashadul Islam wrote: > We should set the meeting on TUESDAY (1st and 3rd week, or 2nd and 4th > week) as inode mentioned. BUT it should be either after lunch or after > dinner. Its easy to say while we do meet and invite new contributor. At some point in my life, I'll be in North America again permanently, and it will be trivial for me to attend these meetings. But until that day comes, the earlier that this meeting can be while not interfering with the lives of all of the Ambassadors who are actually in North America, the better. In other words, I'd love to be able to attend (and for now I'm 6 hours ahead of the east coast), but don't let me alter a wider consensus on the meeting time. If it needs to be after dinner eastern time, so be it. I can read logs, and folks have been really good about pinging me and emailing me with stuff that I need to see. --Max From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue Jan 6 21:30:28 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:30:28 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Reminder] FAMNA Meeting @ 2009-01-06 9pm ET Message-ID: This is a reminder for FAMNA Meeting 2009-01-06 9pm ET (6pm PT) Just a quick reminder that we'll be holding our weekly meeting in #fedora-meeting (irc.freenode.net) tonight at 9pm ET (6pm PT) If you are interested in participating, or have something to contribute, feel free to add it to our agenda:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-01-06 See you all there. Clint From gvarisco at redhat.com Tue Jan 6 22:03:34 2009 From: gvarisco at redhat.com (Gianluca Varisco) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:03:34 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fwd: [Lf_desktop] LWE -> OpenSource World] Message-ID: <4963D536.3080907@redhat.com> - FYI - Anyone near the SF area interested to submit a paper? The OpenSource World Call for Papers is open from December 17, 2008 ? February 20, 2009. http://www.opensourceworld.com/ Cheers, Gianluca -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... 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From inode0 at gmail.com Wed Jan 7 06:22:21 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 00:22:21 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2009-01-07 Message-ID: (08:00:08 PM) inode0: FAmNA meeting time (08:00:17 PM) ianweller: woo (08:00:17 PM) QuickStart: yea (08:00:21 PM) jsmidt: yea! (08:00:22 PM) inode0: Roll call ... please .fas yourself to help me out (08:00:23 PM) QuickStart: up high (08:00:31 PM) QuickStart: .fas luisotero2 (08:00:32 PM) zodbot: QuickStart: luisotero2 '' (08:00:37 PM) herlo has changed the topic to: FAmNA Meeting Now - Agenda https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-01-06 (08:00:54 PM) ianweller: .fas ianweller (08:00:55 PM) zodbot: ianweller: ianweller 'Ian Weller' (08:01:06 PM) jsmidt: .fas jsmidt (08:01:07 PM) zodbot: jsmidt: 'jsmidt' Not Found! (08:01:12 PM) jsmidt: boo! (08:01:17 PM) herlo: .fas herlo (08:01:18 PM) zodbot: herlo: herlo 'Clint Savage' (08:01:22 PM) ianweller: and that's why .fas sucks for meetings ^_^ (08:01:30 PM) jds2001: .fas jstanley (08:01:31 PM) zodbot: jds2001: jstanley 'Jon Stanley' (08:01:49 PM) inode0: add something to just give me the fas name (08:02:25 PM) inode0: Announcements (08:02:33 PM) inode0: FUDconF11 is soonish (08:03:06 PM) herlo: you mean like Friday? (08:03:17 PM) inode0: Congratulations to fugolini and kital for new/old FAmSCo positions (08:03:22 PM) QuickStart: yep woohoo of course I wont be there (08:03:27 PM) jds2001: soonish would be 2-3 weeks away :) (08:03:32 PM) jds2001: soon is friday :) (08:04:09 PM) inode0: Only agenda item tonight is Event Box - Audio (08:04:28 PM) inode0: This came up during the board public meeting today (08:04:40 PM) ianweller: (for the record i have an agenda item to interject whenever convienient, prolly at the end) (08:04:50 PM) jds2001: right, was thinking we could use lessons learned from fudcon. (08:04:52 PM) ***herlo is excited (08:04:55 PM) inode0: ianweller: go add it to the agenda (08:05:05 PM) inode0: :) (08:05:12 PM) ***lcafiero apologizes for being late (08:05:38 PM) inode0: ok, so there is a desire and funding available to add some audio gear to event boxes (08:05:38 PM) ianweller: (actually this will fit better under open floor) (08:05:46 PM) herlo: for what? (08:05:56 PM) QuickStart: live broadcast? (08:06:16 PM) inode0: to move toward allowing those not present to participate in meetings/events remotely (08:06:40 PM) QuickStart: yeah that is cool (08:07:10 PM) herlo: inode0: how so? (08:07:25 PM) inode0: The hope now is that herlo will just volunteer to follow up on this during and after FUDcon and find suitable gear to buy with Q4 funds (08:07:32 PM) ianweller: are we also going to include instructions on connecting it to whatever streaming server herlo invents? (08:07:44 PM) herlo: ianweller: I would hope so (08:07:51 PM) ianweller: yeah so would i ;) (08:07:58 PM) ianweller: otherwise, what use (08:08:01 PM) jds2001: herlo: what about darkice? (08:08:05 PM) herlo: ianweller: icecast has that funcationality already (08:08:11 PM) ***jds2001 not entirely sure what that does. (08:08:12 PM) herlo: jds2001: darkice is the client (08:08:16 PM) inode0: I think I'd rather the technical questions and strategic planning be done with the board people who brought this up (08:08:17 PM) jds2001: ahhhh (08:08:21 PM) ianweller: herlo: i thought you were putting icecast on fedora infra (08:08:34 PM) herlo: ianweller: I am thinking that's why it got brought up by the board (08:08:44 PM) ***herlo hasn't seen the log yet though so i don't know how (08:09:08 PM) inode0: It came up after someone mentioned how nice it would be to sit in on a meeting without being in the same location (08:09:17 PM) herlo: inode0: I'm not clear how putting audio equip into the eventbox helps sharing media (08:09:21 PM) QuickStart: how soon will we now if the audio is up (08:09:24 PM) herlo: with those who can't make it (08:09:38 PM) inode0: but it was the board's idea to add stuff to the event box (08:09:40 PM) ***ke4qqq is late (08:09:55 PM) inode0: I think it might just the the start or part of a bigger plan (08:10:11 PM) inode0: I'm not equipped to explain their thinking tonight though, sorry (08:10:24 PM) QuickStart: i c (08:10:41 PM) herlo: inode0: that's fine (08:10:47 PM) jds2001: maybe the eventbox isn't the right place (08:10:49 PM) herlo: I was just curious of the rationale behind it (08:10:57 PM) jds2001: but rahter some sort of "SupaEventBox" (08:11:04 PM) herlo: I think there's value of having audio in the EventBox (08:11:07 PM) inode0: Let's just let herlo ping the relevant parties after reading the transcript and work with them to do something appropriate (08:11:15 PM) herlo: I will for sure :) (08:11:34 PM) inode0: great, I'll add a vague task for that (08:11:54 PM) QuickStart: well let me know how it turns out for setup (08:12:00 PM) jds2001: will hopefully get more concrete after fudcon (08:12:04 PM) inode0: which brings us to tasks if ianweller is waiting for the open floor (08:12:13 PM) QuickStart: Can someone video tap the setup (08:12:14 PM) QuickStart: ? (08:12:32 PM) jds2001: setup of what? (08:12:36 PM) inode0: mmcgrath agreed to visit with us on our 2/3 meeting (08:12:42 PM) herlo: QuickStart: video is being done at FUDCon (08:12:54 PM) QuickStart: sweet can't wait to watch the footage (08:13:01 PM) inode0: which task is this? (08:13:03 PM) QuickStart: jds2001 setup of audio in eventbox (08:13:47 PM) ***herlo has a couple small things to mention when ianweller is done (08:13:50 PM) inode0: back to tasks, are there any others who have anything to report (08:14:00 PM) ianweller: oh my turn? (08:14:07 PM) jds2001: not quite yet (08:14:08 PM) inode0: no (08:14:11 PM) ianweller: ok.' (08:14:21 PM) ***ianweller is getting beeps ;) (08:14:33 PM) inode0: oops, I completed the cleanup task for the 4 month backlog of meeting pages to the extent I could (08:14:52 PM) ke4qqq: ? (08:14:54 PM) ***ianweller applauds momentarily (08:15:17 PM) inode0: the meeting pages were not kept up, no links, no participants, etc. (08:15:31 PM) ***QuickStart ovation (08:15:38 PM) jds2001: ke4qqq: us north americans aint so formal around these parts. (08:15:46 PM) herlo: yeah, I can be blamed for much of the lack of links and such (08:15:50 PM) ke4qqq: did all of those go to the Meeting: namespace? (08:15:54 PM) ke4qqq: so can I (08:16:03 PM) inode0: ke4qqq: if you have logs from the last couple you ran I couldn't find them (08:16:29 PM) ***QuickStart puts on Drill Sargent Swag and yells' drop and give me twenty' to all na ambassadors (08:16:33 PM) ***QuickStart kids (08:16:34 PM) inode0: links https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings (08:16:47 PM) jds2001: i have logs going all the way back. (08:16:58 PM) jds2001: well to about the beginning of 2008 (08:17:12 PM) ke4qqq: I'll see if I have logs.....but jds2001 sounds like a canonical source (08:17:16 PM) jds2001: so if any are needed i should have them. (08:17:36 PM) ***ianweller puts on his docs hat (08:17:39 PM) inode0: 11/04 is one example - perhaps I just couldn't find the email of the log, I did find a summary (08:17:52 PM) ianweller: so umm not to add more annoyance to ya guys, but all the meetings are supposed to be moved into the Meetings: namespace relatively soonish. (08:18:08 PM) ***dowdle is late... new dude from Montana. (08:18:13 PM) QuickStart: well if you need someone to work I volunteer (08:18:19 PM) jds2001: dowdle: welcome (08:18:21 PM) QuickStart: I can do about a month (08:18:25 PM) ke4qqq: welcome dowdle (08:18:30 PM) inode0: ianweller: how will that annoy us? (08:18:33 PM) QuickStart: +1 (08:18:35 PM) herlo: welcome dowdle (08:18:44 PM) ke4qqq: ianweller: hence my question earlier - we can prolly get wikibot to do it for us though (08:18:45 PM) ianweller: inode0: oh i thought you had also moved pages in addition to that. (08:18:56 PM) ianweller: ke4qqq: why, yes you can! /me points *everybody* to wikirename.git (08:18:59 PM) herlo: that doesn't take long (08:19:01 PM) ianweller: but i'll talk more about that at fudcon. (08:19:18 PM) inode0: I move nothing, I only create a mess (08:19:26 PM) ke4qqq: what perms are needed for write access to wikirename.git? (08:19:48 PM) ianweller: ke4qqq: you only have to be in any hosted project (08:20:04 PM) ianweller: if you're not, you need access somehow on the server, so you can apply to gitwikirename. but that's not necessary if you have other hosted rights (08:20:08 PM) ke4qqq: ahhh cool I'll try and get that completed by end of Fudcon for our meetings (08:20:17 PM) inode0: ok, are there any other task list items to be reported on tonight? (08:20:40 PM) herlo: hi (08:20:44 PM) ianweller: ke4qqq: you might do a reimport of any more pages that have cropped up since G_work did a prefixindex dump (08:20:48 PM) jds2001: .fasinfo ke4qqq (08:20:49 PM) zodbot: jds2001: User: ke4qqq, Name: David Nalley, email: david at gnsa.us, Creation: 2006-02-21, IRC Nick: ke4qqq, Timezone: US/Eastern, Locale: en, Extension: 5100435 (08:20:50 PM) zodbot: jds2001: Approved Groups: cla_done fedorabugs docs ambassadors marketing news cla_fedora famsco gitrelease-notes gitelectionsguide gitinstall-guide (08:20:51 PM) zodbot: jds2001: Unapproved Groups: None (08:20:59 PM) herlo: I don't have any tasks to report, but I do have something to mention (08:21:01 PM) jds2001: yeah, you can just commit ke4qqq (08:21:18 PM) ke4qqq: cool (08:21:31 PM) inode0: ok, let's move to open floor and start with herlo (08:21:45 PM) herlo: yay! (08:22:01 PM) herlo: I'm just here to mention that I got an email about the media box (08:22:07 PM) herlo: from Axelilly (08:22:19 PM) herlo: he was interested in getting a wiki page up (08:22:33 PM) herlo: so I pointed him to the AmbassadorKit wiki page (08:22:37 PM) herlo: but I had a question (08:23:21 PM) herlo: I want to print a bunch of media box papers for anyone to create at FUDCon, is this a good idea? (08:23:44 PM) ianweller: i don't see why not (08:23:46 PM) herlo: thing is, I wanted to kind of personalize them (08:23:48 PM) ke4qqq: is it something you can offload to mo? (08:23:51 PM) QuickStart: It would be good (08:23:54 PM) ke4qqq: and reduce travel weight? (08:23:54 PM) herlo: it's not hard (08:24:00 PM) herlo: it's only paper (08:24:04 PM) QuickStart: just get the list of those heading to FUDCon (08:24:08 PM) herlo: but personalization woudl be nice (08:24:14 PM) herlo: QuickStart: good idea (08:24:22 PM) herlo: I can create some for those who are on the roster (08:24:28 PM) QuickStart: I"m just saying you can save money that way (08:24:44 PM) inode0: speaking of money I have one more thing too (08:24:47 PM) ke4qqq: make ianweller do his bizcard magic to the form (08:24:53 PM) herlo: eh, I don't mind printing it, as I have a color laserjet (08:25:09 PM) QuickStart: sweet (08:25:25 PM) herlo: who here wants a personalized media box? (08:25:44 PM) ***jds2001 (08:25:45 PM) inode0: who doesn't? (08:25:48 PM) QuickStart: true (08:25:56 PM) ianweller: i also want some nice media to hand out too ;) (08:25:57 PM) herlo: I need names (08:26:08 PM) ***lcafiero thanks herlo for his gracious offer, but I'll make one of my own. (08:26:12 PM) dowdle: herlo: It isn't too hard to tape on a card or piece of paper with Ambassador contact info after the fact so I don't think it is that important to have personalized boxes. (08:26:13 PM) herlo: ianweller: hehe, that's coming, I have 500 pieces I'm bringing (08:26:24 PM) ianweller: herlo: you deserve a high five. (08:26:32 PM) inode0: maybe ping the list ... if you will be at FUDcon and want one ...? (08:26:34 PM) herlo: ianweller: hehe (08:26:36 PM) ke4qqq: herlo: I am bringing media if it's too much to carry (08:26:40 PM) jsmidt: I'll have to make my own too, I won't be at fudcon (08:26:42 PM) ***jds2001 points herlo to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:FUDCon_Boston_2009_preregistrantshttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:FUDCon_Boston_2009_preregistrants (08:26:51 PM) jds2001: er https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:FUDCon_Boston_2009_preregistrants (08:26:54 PM) jds2001: just one :) (08:26:57 PM) ianweller: inode0: i think he should get a potato gun, but fitted for CDs. (08:27:02 PM) ianweller: just shoot 'em into the crowd (08:27:04 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: ooh, okay, I was hoping to bring DVDs (08:27:10 PM) QuickStart: sweet I would hed there just to see that in action (08:27:21 PM) ke4qqq: ohhh cool, I'll bring livecds if you bring dvds (08:27:22 PM) herlo: I'll bring them if I can (08:27:23 PM) jds2001: QuickStart: just in boston, not far (08:27:27 PM) dowdle: herlo: Are they updated respins that are current? Or the original media? (08:27:33 PM) herlo: original (08:27:38 PM) herlo: anyway, I have one other thing (08:27:40 PM) jds2001: no respins have yet been produced. (08:27:41 PM) ***ke4qqq hears echos from last week (08:27:42 PM) dowdle: herlo: Blech. Make new ones. (08:27:44 PM) inode0: not like they are ancient yet :) (08:27:47 PM) herlo: dowdle: no (08:27:56 PM) ke4qqq: dowdle: 12000 respins aren't cool (08:27:57 PM) dowdle: herlo: Making a new one takes like an hour. (08:27:59 PM) herlo: respins aren't official (08:28:01 PM) ke4qqq: they are ancient in a month (08:28:08 PM) ke4qqq: gold is good for 6 months (08:28:08 PM) herlo: and we've already ordered them (08:28:08 PM) QuickStart: true but no money (08:28:15 PM) QuickStart: guess field trip is in order (08:28:16 PM) herlo: anyway (08:28:28 PM) herlo: I was talking with ke4qqq earlier tonight (08:28:29 PM) dowdle: herlo: Having install media where 25 - 75% of the packages get updated after install is very crappy. (08:28:29 PM) inode0: let's move on, we have the media (08:28:38 PM) QuickStart: true to respin now would be a set back since 11 is out soon (08:28:41 PM) ***dowdle shuts up. (08:28:45 PM) inode0: then don't take one dowdle (08:29:02 PM) herlo: and we decided it would be cool to put large posters of the Fedora logo in our Hotel windows at the Marriott (08:29:11 PM) ke4qqq: dowdle: it costs us a fortune and 3 weeks to get media - we are doing good to get gold produced timely - we are happy for others to bring solutions to the problem (08:29:42 PM) dowdle: ke4qqq: Well I'm not going to the event in question so my opinion doesn't matter. I'm so used to just burning media myself. (08:29:50 PM) QuickStart: how bout making a big logo out of the windows (08:29:57 PM) QuickStart: ?? (08:29:59 PM) inode0: dowdle: these media are used at all events (08:30:16 PM) ke4qqq: dowdle: when you hand a 1000 pieces out at a single event that's not practical (08:30:22 PM) inode0: when people bring respins to distribute they are there as a choice too (08:30:45 PM) herlo: k, I want to bring up my other topic, can we discuss that after? (08:30:58 PM) inode0: are you ready to leave this one? (08:31:10 PM) ke4qqq: we are leaving signs? (08:31:17 PM) ke4qqq: or moving into signs? (08:31:18 PM) herlo: no (08:31:20 PM) herlo: moving (08:31:21 PM) herlo: to (08:31:25 PM) ke4qqq: signs? (08:31:28 PM) herlo: nobody commented (08:31:32 PM) herlo: it was all about media (08:31:42 PM) ke4qqq: ok - so several things (08:31:46 PM) lcafiero: signs in the window at hotel = +1 (08:31:46 PM) inode0: yeah, sounds cool, what is the question? (08:31:47 PM) herlo: I wanted to know if anyone else was interested in doing signs in their windows too (08:31:49 PM) ke4qqq: one - we need to have someone handing out said signs (08:31:56 PM) dowdle: ke4qqq: Smaller batches more often... but I'll be happy to discuss this another time... as I'm beeing obnoixous otherwise. (08:31:57 PM) ke4qqq: with tape (08:32:11 PM) herlo: yeah, I'll bring tape for the first day of the hackfest (08:32:25 PM) herlo: I only wonder if we should od it at Kinkos on Thursday (08:32:29 PM) herlo: wouldn't take long (08:32:29 PM) QuickStart: got an Idea (08:32:43 PM) QuickStart: make a huge blow up of Fedora logo and cut it window size (08:32:54 PM) ***lcafiero will be back shortly. (08:32:57 PM) QuickStart: and get rooms nearby (08:33:05 PM) herlo: QuickStart: lol, if only we had time (08:33:08 PM) QuickStart: put the pieces in the windows in order and people will get the idea (08:33:10 PM) herlo: printing paper is easier (08:33:20 PM) QuickStart: I have the sissors if you have the paper (08:33:22 PM) QuickStart: lol (08:33:35 PM) herlo: but I like the idea (08:33:43 PM) QuickStart: true (08:33:52 PM) QuickStart: that would be good for the memory album (08:33:52 PM) herlo: anyway, that's all I had. Whos interested? and should I do it at Kinkos in Boston? (08:34:04 PM) jds2001: when do you get to Boston? (08:34:28 PM) inode0: absolutely, I imagine a lot of people would join in after seeing them or hearing about them (08:34:41 PM) ke4qqq: YES!! and being offered them. (08:34:42 PM) herlo: I arrive at 11am on Thurs (08:34:50 PM) ***ke4qqq should be there around 10 or 11am (08:34:55 PM) QuickStart: sweets (08:35:07 PM) herlo: I'll do a bunch of prints then on Thursday there. I can create it tomorrow then... (08:35:08 PM) jds2001: herlo: cool, I arrive about 5PM (08:35:16 PM) inode0: perfect (08:35:29 PM) ***inode0 raises his hand (08:35:48 PM) ***inode0 and hasn't forgotten ianweller, saving the best for last (08:36:00 PM) ianweller: i forgot what i was going to ask (08:36:39 PM) inode0: there is great interest in spending more Q4 funds on permanent items, please if you have such items in mind let's move forward with those (08:36:56 PM) inode0: so banners and such for the event boxes would be one good thing (08:37:01 PM) herlo: inode0: I'm done (08:37:12 PM) jds2001: done with? (08:37:14 PM) inode0: herlo: sorry, I thought you were already done :) (08:37:14 PM) ke4qqq: where is said interest coming from? (08:37:24 PM) herlo: :) (08:37:25 PM) herlo: nw stickster StillBob (08:37:31 PM) inode0: spevack and stickster (08:37:33 PM) jds2001: ke4qqq: spevack seemed interesting in teh public meeting today (08:37:41 PM) jds2001: s/interesting/interested (08:37:46 PM) inode0: not talking about our current Q4 budget, other funds (08:37:54 PM) ke4qqq: right, but does that mean we get more funds - seems we are pretty tight as it is (08:37:59 PM) ***ke4qqq will have to read the minutes (08:38:22 PM) inode0: it means if we ask max to buy permanent stuff he may find other funds to do that with (08:38:41 PM) herlo: nice (08:39:15 PM) inode0: but it needs to be in Q4, so there isn't that much time (08:39:28 PM) ***herlo orders the world (08:39:58 PM) inode0: I'm done with that, just wanted everyone to know about it and give it some thought (08:40:09 PM) inode0: ianweller has the floor (08:41:36 PM) ***inode0 whistles and does some dishes waiting (08:42:22 PM) inode0: guess he really did forget (08:42:39 PM) jds2001: ianweller: (08:42:39 PM) jds2001: ianweller: (08:42:40 PM) jds2001: ianweller: (08:42:41 PM) jds2001: ianweller: (08:42:45 PM) ianweller: hi (08:42:46 PM) ianweller: i forgot. (08:42:48 PM) ianweller: seriously. (08:42:53 PM) ianweller: nothing to see here (08:43:03 PM) inode0: remember then and that problem is solved (08:43:04 PM) ***ianweller should've put it on the wiki. lol (08:43:08 PM) inode0: be a problem solver ianweller (08:43:11 PM) ianweller: lol (08:43:35 PM) inode0: ok, there is next week and we are always you know where (08:43:48 PM) inode0: was it about the book by any chance? (08:44:11 PM) ke4qqq: or fudcon related (08:44:23 PM) ***QuickStart forgot to get a copy of Spider (08:44:34 PM) ke4qqq: QuickStart: amazon.com (08:44:40 PM) QuickStart: true (08:44:41 PM) inode0: starfish, the spider is bad (08:44:58 PM) ke4qqq: the spider is cutoff in the end (oops spoiler) (08:45:12 PM) QuickStart: man well don't have to read it now (08:45:14 PM) QuickStart: lol (08:45:32 PM) inode0: ok, are there any other fudcon items from anyone since that is soonish (08:45:47 PM) ianweller: inode0: oh yeah, book! (08:45:51 PM) ***ke4qqq will bring media (08:45:56 PM) ianweller: yeah uh my announcement was bring your cameras to fudcon. (08:45:58 PM) ianweller: that is all. (08:46:00 PM) ***ke4qqq notes ianweller is too late (08:46:14 PM) ***ianweller sulks appropriately (08:46:32 PM) inode0: oh, that should be in the annoucement segment of the program ianweller, this is for discussion :) (08:46:51 PM) ianweller: inode0: what are you doing, trying to be organized? that's mad! (08:46:53 PM) ianweller: :P (08:47:00 PM) inode0: you write the summaries :) (08:47:02 PM) QuickStart: oh and on additional info for all (08:47:20 PM) QuickStart: more megapixels doesn't mean that you have better quality (08:47:26 PM) QuickStart: thats it for (08:47:27 PM) QuickStart: me (08:47:30 PM) inode0: ok (08:47:44 PM) inode0: last call before we move on to the countdown (08:48:12 PM) inode0: thank you all for coming as always, your participation is, uh, important (08:49:15 PM) inode0: remember first meeting next month we will have an infrastructure guest to help us understand that aspect of fedora better (08:49:25 PM) inode0: 5 (08:49:28 PM) inode0: 4 (08:49:31 PM) inode0: 3 (08:49:34 PM) inode0: 2 (08:49:38 PM) inode0: 1 (08:49:50 PM) inode0: thanks again everyone, see some of you this weekend (08:49:53 PM) inode0: EOF From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 7 13:55:29 2009 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:55:29 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Summary from 2009-01-07 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:21 AM, inode0 wrote: > * Announcements > > - FUDconF11 > > - Congratulations to fugolini and kital My congratulations go to the whole NA Ambassadors' community for its marvelous job. Best regards Francesco Ugolini From loupgaroublond at gmail.com Wed Jan 7 14:38:17 2009 From: loupgaroublond at gmail.com (Yaakov Nemoy) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:38:17 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] important FOSDEM details In-Reply-To: <3161376e0901051105j6f61131cq33b40545528c120e@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0901051105j6f61131cq33b40545528c120e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f692fec0901070638l18e20fb8w9d1038846ee2863f@mail.gmail.com> 2009/1/5 Frederic Hornain : > Dear Max, > > Thanks for this. > I am going to keep you in touch as soon as I will have updates. > FYI, tomorrow, i am going to contact CentOS guys in order to know their > FOSDEM planning. Is Fedora going to be sharing a table with CentOS this year? -Yaakov From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jan 7 15:40:41 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:40:41 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] important FOSDEM details In-Reply-To: <7f692fec0901070638l18e20fb8w9d1038846ee2863f@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0901051105j6f61131cq33b40545528c120e@mail.gmail.com> <7f692fec0901070638l18e20fb8w9d1038846ee2863f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Yaakov Nemoy wrote: > Is Fedora going to be sharing a table with CentOS this year? Just the devroom, as far as I know. From bpowell01 at gmail.com Wed Jan 7 15:46:24 2009 From: bpowell01 at gmail.com (Brian Powell) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:46:24 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Summary from 2009-01-07 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <96365e610901070746r4f873016k2b052f6a988a5e48@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:21 AM, inode0 wrote: > * Announcements > > - FUDconF11 > > - Congratulations to fugolini and kital > > * Event Box - Audio > > - herlo will touch base with those interested in adding audio capabilities > to the event boxes and try to have a plan to execute before the end of Q4. > > * Tasks [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks] > > - mmcgrath agreed to visit with us on our 2/3 meeting. > > - Meeting wiki cleanup complete. > > * Open Floor > > - Media box discussion in preparation for FUDcon. > > - FUDcon window decoration planning. > > - Reminder to bring cameras to FUDcon if you can help with pictures. > > I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new > ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight. > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > My apologies for not being able to attend last evenings meeting. I had a work related emergency that had me tied up all evening. Now it is time for some sleep after pulling an all nighter. -- Regards, Brian Powell http://fedoraproject.org http://wnylug.org From fhornain at gmail.com Wed Jan 7 16:23:15 2009 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 17:23:15 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] important FOSDEM details In-Reply-To: References: <3161376e0901051105j6f61131cq33b40545528c120e@mail.gmail.com> <7f692fec0901070638l18e20fb8w9d1038846ee2863f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0901070823u1e3c97dmada5d025b9703b4c@mail.gmail.com> Hi Max, > Is Fedora going to be sharing a table with CentOS this year? >>Just the devroom, as far as I know. Not totally true, Centos has its own booth and should be close to us. In addition, we are going to share the devroom with them. >> Frederic, are you going to send the FOSDEM people the list of talks signed up for the Fedora Dev Room so that they can be >> put on the schedule? People have filled in quite a bit of information the past few days. >>Or should I do it? If so, who do I send it to? Now, I have just contacted the guy in charge of Centos and I am going to propose him a schedule in function of what he told me by phone. Max, you will be in copy of this mail. As soon as we agree with that schedule and details, I would send the information the FOSDEM team in order to update their web site. Anyway, I keep you in touch of the evolution of that project. Thanks Max, you did not tell me the status of the request associated to Raphael Pinson. Could you please give me it ? Best Regards Fred On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Yaakov Nemoy wrote: > > Is Fedora going to be sharing a table with CentOS this year? >> > > Just the devroom, as far as I know. > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jan 7 17:12:55 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 18:12:55 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] the fosdem roster is quite impressive Message-ID: Wow, fosdem has more people signed up than LinuxTag did last year. It should be a heck of an event. In 2010, we might need to go solo with our own devroom. :) --Max From ppapadeas at gmail.com Wed Jan 7 20:52:00 2009 From: ppapadeas at gmail.com (Papadeas Pierros) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:52:00 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] the fosdem roster is quite impressive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1231361520.3148.31.camel@morpheus.mygroup> On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 18:12 +0100, Max Spevack wrote: > Wow, fosdem has more people signed up than LinuxTag did last year. It > should be a heck of an event. We are large and in charge ! > In 2010, we might need to go solo with our own devroom. :) Even for this event we could do it! (many and good presentations from Fedora) Fire it up everyone! Lets show the world what Fedora is and can be! > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Pierros Papadeas PGP key: 0x6130DBF8 liknus @ GRnet , Freenode -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Last year, i felt a bit detached from the CentOS presence even though we did share space. I hope there can be some more mixing of the message being delivered this year. -Yaakov From irashadul at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 06:59:00 2009 From: irashadul at gmail.com (Rashadul Islam) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 07:29:00 +0030 Subject: [Ambassadors] the fosdem roster is quite impressive In-Reply-To: <1231361520.3148.31.camel@morpheus.mygroup> References: <1231361520.3148.31.camel@morpheus.mygroup> Message-ID: <17fa59580901072259i27cbf673n8131e5d356493922@mail.gmail.com> We should move Slowly, but wisely to make it faster as usual. On 1/7/09, Papadeas Pierros wrote: > On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 18:12 +0100, Max Spevack wrote: >> Wow, fosdem has more people signed up than LinuxTag did last year. It >> should be a heck of an event. > > We are large and in charge ! > >> In 2010, we might need to go solo with our own devroom. :) > > Even for this event we could do it! (many and good presentations from > Fedora) > > Fire it up everyone! Lets show the world what Fedora is and can be! > >> >> --Max >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- > Pierros Papadeas > PGP key: 0x6130DBF8 > > liknus @ GRnet , Freenode > -- Rashadul Islam ---------------------- Fedora Ambassador Canada/Montreal GPG Key 5557BFAC Finger Print 3869 732D FC43 92B4 2805 85DD C072 0238 4C74 3A69 From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Jan 8 07:38:50 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 08:38:50 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] important FOSDEM details In-Reply-To: <7f692fec0901071957w316f54a6gee359132e7569237@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0901051105j6f61131cq33b40545528c120e@mail.gmail.com> <7f692fec0901070638l18e20fb8w9d1038846ee2863f@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0901070823u1e3c97dmada5d025b9703b4c@mail.gmail.com> <7f692fec0901071957w316f54a6gee359132e7569237@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Yaakov Nemoy wrote: > Last year, i felt a bit detached from the CentOS presence even though > we did share space. I hope there can be some more mixing of the > message being delivered this year. As long as size permits, I don't mind sharing the devroom. I wouldn't want to share a booth -- we are separate and independent projects. However, the moment that it becomes possible to fill an entire speaking schedule ourselves is the moment that I'll want to have our own devroom. We're trying to finalize the speaking schedule for FOSDEM today, and I'm already worried that we might have more volunteers for speaking slots than we have people. We'll see. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Jan 8 07:39:23 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 08:39:23 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] important FOSDEM details In-Reply-To: References: <3161376e0901051105j6f61131cq33b40545528c120e@mail.gmail.com> <7f692fec0901070638l18e20fb8w9d1038846ee2863f@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0901070823u1e3c97dmada5d025b9703b4c@mail.gmail.com> <7f692fec0901071957w316f54a6gee359132e7569237@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Max Spevack wrote: > We're trying to finalize the speaking schedule for FOSDEM today, and > I'm already worried that we might have more volunteers for speaking > slots than we have people. We'll see. Er, that should read "more volunteers for speaking slots than we have slots". From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Jan 8 10:04:03 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:04:03 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM speaking schedule (DRAFT) Message-ID: Here's what we're looking at right now, guys. Please speak up if (a) you are not on the list and you are supposed to be or (b) you need to have a different time slot. There is currently one open spot remaining, on Sunday at 10:00 AM. Our goal is to finalize this list ASAP. ========================= Fedora/CentOS devroom proposed schedule. Saturday Feb 7: 10:00 n/a (devroom closed) 11:00 n/a (devroom closed) 12:00 Thomas Canniot 13:00 CentOS talk 14:00 Max Spevack 15:00 Simo Sorce 16:00 Tomeu Vizoso & Greg DeKoenigsberg 17:00 Raphael Pinson Sunday Feb 8: 10:00 *open* 11:00 CentOS talk 12:00 Christoph Wickert 13:00 Robert Lazzurs & Jasper Capel 14:00 Luca Foppiano & Francesco Crippa 15:00 CentOS talk 16:00 Chitlesh Goorah From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Jan 8 11:07:10 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:07:10 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM speaking schedule (DRAFT) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Also, CentOS thinks they might want more than 3 slots, so if any of you only need half an hour and can share your slot with someone else, please say so. Thanks, Max On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Max Spevack wrote: > Here's what we're looking at right now, guys. Please speak up if (a) > you are not on the list and you are supposed to be or (b) you need to > have a different time slot. > > There is currently one open spot remaining, on Sunday at 10:00 AM. > > Our goal is to finalize this list ASAP. > > ========================= > > Fedora/CentOS devroom proposed schedule. > > Saturday Feb 7: > > 10:00 n/a (devroom closed) > 11:00 n/a (devroom closed) > 12:00 Thomas Canniot > 13:00 CentOS talk > 14:00 Max Spevack > 15:00 Simo Sorce > 16:00 Tomeu Vizoso & Greg DeKoenigsberg > 17:00 Raphael Pinson > > Sunday Feb 8: > > 10:00 *open* > 11:00 CentOS talk > 12:00 Christoph Wickert > 13:00 Robert Lazzurs & Jasper Capel > 14:00 Luca Foppiano & Francesco Crippa > 15:00 CentOS talk > 16:00 Chitlesh Goorah > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Jan 8 12:01:55 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:01:55 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM speaking schedule (DRAFT) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2009#Speakers_in_the_Dev_Room All further updates should go on the wiki. From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 8 13:09:30 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 14:09:30 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Message-ID: <200901081409.30117.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear Ambassadors, let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Stanleythwin from Yangon, Myanmar https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Amoupgu from India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ansarrehbar from India Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From axelilly at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 14:38:19 2009 From: axelilly at gmail.com (Jason Fenner) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:38:19 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Possible projector for EventBox. Message-ID: I saw on the list recently some conversation regarding the possibility of purchasing some type of backdrop to include with the EventBox that a graphic like the Fedora logo could be projected on. Recently, I ran across a projector that is very small and light weight. The cost is also quite moderate. I was thinking that it might have the potential of being a projector we'd like to order and include in the EventBox. It is sold by Dell: Dell On The Go DLP Projector Product# M109S MSRP: $499.00 http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Projectors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=19&sku=224-0939 I wanted to send the idea out there for everyone's consideration. --Jason -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 14:51:13 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 20:21:13 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting. 11th January 2009 03:00UTC. Message-ID: Hi, We shall meet on 11th January 2009, Sunday at 03:00 UTC. Please find time at your place here[1]. The details and agenda is here[2]. Please update it with your own agenda. See you all at #fedora-meeting on freenode. Thanks. [1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=1&day=11&year=2009&hour=3&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-01-11 -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 8 15:44:52 2009 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 16:44:52 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] the fosdem roster is quite impressive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > Wow, fosdem has more people signed up than LinuxTag did last year. It > should be a heck of an event. > > In 2010, we might need to go solo with our own devroom. :) > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > The number is really impressive :) Even if is early (FOSDEM is in february) I wish all attendees good luck and good work! Regards Francesco Ugolini From hagr182 at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 17:58:08 2009 From: hagr182 at gmail.com (Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 18:58:08 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome In-Reply-To: <200901081409.30117.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200901081409.30117.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1d24cdf80901080958u26d71a2ej714e4cd1ca737283@mail.gmail.com> Nice to see new faces, welcome abroad, feel free to ask for anything you may need, on a side note: I was taking some vacations but now im back, willing to start a new year working as an ambassador 2009/1/8 JoergSimon > Dear Ambassadors, > > let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Stanleythwin from Yangon, Myanmar > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Amoupgu from India > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ansarrehbar from India > > > > Regards Joerg > p.s. 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URL: From kanarip at kanarip.com Fri Jan 9 01:58:40 2009 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:58:40 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] important FOSDEM details In-Reply-To: References: <3161376e0901051105j6f61131cq33b40545528c120e@mail.gmail.com> <7f692fec0901070638l18e20fb8w9d1038846ee2863f@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0901070823u1e3c97dmada5d025b9703b4c@mail.gmail.com> <7f692fec0901071957w316f54a6gee359132e7569237@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4966AF50.5010906@kanarip.com> Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Yaakov Nemoy wrote: > >> Last year, i felt a bit detached from the CentOS presence even though >> we did share space. I hope there can be some more mixing of the >> message being delivered this year. > > As long as size permits, I don't mind sharing the devroom. I wouldn't > want to share a booth -- we are separate and independent projects. > > However, the moment that it becomes possible to fill an entire speaking > schedule ourselves is the moment that I'll want to have our own devroom. > > We're trying to finalize the speaking schedule for FOSDEM today, and I'm > already worried that we might have more volunteers for speaking slots > than we have people. We'll see. > I would like to enlist a Configuration Management talk on Cobbler and Puppet, and combine that in a track with Augeas (Raphael Pinson). Kind regards, Jeroen From fhornain at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 10:11:33 2009 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:11:33 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] important FOSDEM details In-Reply-To: <4966AF50.5010906@kanarip.com> References: <3161376e0901051105j6f61131cq33b40545528c120e@mail.gmail.com> <7f692fec0901070638l18e20fb8w9d1038846ee2863f@mail.gmail.com> <3161376e0901070823u1e3c97dmada5d025b9703b4c@mail.gmail.com> <7f692fec0901071957w316f54a6gee359132e7569237@mail.gmail.com> <4966AF50.5010906@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0901090211i62467972p134025a617d36b7b@mail.gmail.com> Jeroen, Following you demand, I have already contacted Raphael and he should contact you asap. I am going to contact Robert and Jasper as well. I will keep you in touch regarding your demand. /! \ BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT THE SCHEDULE IS BY DEFAULT FROZEN ! Excepted for specific points. Thanks for your comprehension. Best Regards Frederic On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > Max Spevack wrote: > >> On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Yaakov Nemoy wrote: >> >> Last year, i felt a bit detached from the CentOS presence even though we >>> did share space. I hope there can be some more mixing of the message being >>> delivered this year. >>> >> >> As long as size permits, I don't mind sharing the devroom. I wouldn't >> want to share a booth -- we are separate and independent projects. >> >> However, the moment that it becomes possible to fill an entire speaking >> schedule ourselves is the moment that I'll want to have our own devroom. >> >> We're trying to finalize the speaking schedule for FOSDEM today, and I'm >> already worried that we might have more volunteers for speaking slots than >> we have people. We'll see. >> >> > I would like to enlist a Configuration Management talk on Cobbler and > Puppet, and combine that in a track with Augeas (Raphael Pinson). > > Kind regards, > > Jeroen > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From rishikesh at fedoraproject.org Sat Jan 10 12:33:54 2009 From: rishikesh at fedoraproject.org (Rishikesh Sharma) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:03:54 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Request for Packaging Blueman for Fedora Message-ID: <7cb778c60901100433t24b8af4ofe6348129bde250e@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, I request fedora packager to create Blueman rpm for Fedora. Its a nice bluetooth manager for Linux. Ubuntu has already included in thier respository. It allows any common user to connect any bluetooth device with ease. It also allow you to connect gprs internet connection from mobile without having to know commands. Regards, Rishikesh Sharma Fedora Ambassador Imphal, Manipur. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards Francesco Ugolini From ianweller at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 13:02:21 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:02:21 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Request for Packaging Blueman for Fedora In-Reply-To: <7cb778c60901100433t24b8af4ofe6348129bde250e@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60901100433t24b8af4ofe6348129bde250e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090110130221.GA8910@gmail.com> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 06:03:54PM +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > I request fedora packager to create Blueman rpm for Fedora. Its a nice > bluetooth manager for Linux. Ubuntu has already included in thier > respository. It allows any common user to connect any bluetooth device with > ease. It also allow you to connect gprs internet connection from mobile > without having to know commands. > Or, alternatively, you can find out how to do it yourself... see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join for wonderous documentation on how to do so. The sponsors for the program are very helpful and knowledgeable. -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mxcarron at fedoraproject.org Sat Jan 10 13:17:31 2009 From: mxcarron at fedoraproject.org (Maxime Carron) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 14:17:31 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome In-Reply-To: <20090109201102.3fc5bb73@fedoraproject.org> References: <200812311743.00746.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <20090109201102.3fc5bb73@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20090110141731.50e69b27@fedoraproject.org> I'm sorry. I experienced some trouble with my emails. Max From fab at fedoraproject.org Sat Jan 10 15:09:19 2009 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:09:19 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Request for Packaging Blueman for Fedora In-Reply-To: <20090110130221.GA8910@gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60901100433t24b8af4ofe6348129bde250e@mail.gmail.com> <20090110130221.GA8910@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4968BA1F.20206@fedoraproject.org> Ian Weller schrieb: > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 06:03:54PM +0530, Rishikesh Sharma wrote: >> I request fedora packager to create Blueman rpm for Fedora. Its a nice >> bluetooth manager for Linux. Ubuntu has already included in thier >> respository. It allows any common user to connect any bluetooth device with >> ease. It also allow you to connect gprs internet connection from mobile >> without having to know commands. >> > Or, alternatively, you can find out how to do it yourself... see > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join for wonderous > documentation on how to do so. The sponsors for the program are very > helpful and knowledgeable. or add it to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WishList Fabian -- Fingerprint: 2F6C 930F D3C4 7E38 6AFA 4EB4 E23C D2DD 36A4 397F Fedora always leads and never follows. From david at gnsa.us Sat Jan 10 22:21:30 2009 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:21:30 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Meeting logs in the wiki Message-ID: So in conjunction with DocsProject's renaming efforts if you post meeting logs to the wiki please take note of the following. DocsProject has deprecated the nested hierarchy page naming convention: Ambassadors/Meetings/2006-10-26 The new convention is: Meeting:Ambassadors 2006-10-26 For FAmSCo the page naming convention convention is now: Meeting:FAmSCo 2006-10-26 Mediawiki will automatically add underscores appropriately, so please use spaces. If you have questions, please ask ianweller in #fedora-docs on irc.freenode.net :) That is all. From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sun Jan 11 04:03:02 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:33:02 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting co-chair. Message-ID: Hi list, This year, we are going to have a lot of attentions to APAC. In order to ensure that important meetings does not get delayed or cancelled in my absence, lets appoint a co-chair for the meetings. Heherson Pagcaliwagan from Fedora Philippines has volunteered for it. In case anyone else does volunteer for the job, please let us know, we shall have a open discussion then. Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From ianweller at gmail.com Sun Jan 11 05:16:55 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:16:55 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Meeting logs in the wiki In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090111051655.GA32549@gmail.com> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 05:21:30PM -0500, David Nalley wrote: > So in conjunction with DocsProject's renaming efforts if you post > meeting logs to the wiki please take note of the following. > > DocsProject has deprecated the nested hierarchy page naming convention: > Ambassadors/Meetings/2006-10-26 > > The new convention is: > Meeting:Ambassadors 2006-10-26 > > > For FAmSCo the page naming convention convention is now: > Meeting:FAmSCo 2006-10-26 > > Mediawiki will automatically add underscores appropriately, so please > use spaces. > > If you have questions, please ask ianweller in #fedora-docs on > irc.freenode.net :) > This is correct. 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Apparently they are only different in syntax. :) -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Sun Jan 11 11:31:25 2009 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:31:25 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Meeting logs in the wiki In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:21 PM, David Nalley wrote: > So in conjunction with DocsProject's renaming efforts if you post > meeting logs to the wiki please take note of the following. > > DocsProject has deprecated the nested hierarchy page naming convention: > Ambassadors/Meetings/2006-10-26 > > The new convention is: > Meeting:Ambassadors 2006-10-26 > > > For FAmSCo the page naming convention convention is now: > Meeting:FAmSCo 2006-10-26 > > Mediawiki will automatically add underscores appropriately, so please > use spaces. > > If you have questions, please ask ianweller in #fedora-docs on > irc.freenode.net :) > > > That is all. > Thank you for this update. Best regards Francesco Ugolini From chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com Sun Jan 11 13:27:42 2009 From: chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com (Dipanjan Chakraborty) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:57:42 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting co-chair. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 9:33 AM, susmit shannigrahi < thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi list, > > This year, we are going to have a lot of attentions to APAC. > > In order to ensure that important meetings does not get delayed or > cancelled > in my absence, lets appoint a co-chair for the meetings. > > Heherson Pagcaliwagan from Fedora Philippines has volunteered for it. +1 > > > In case anyone else does volunteer for the job, please let us know, > we shall have a open discussion then. > > Thanks. > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit > ============================================= > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Yours sincerely, Dipanjan Chakraborty -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1231776495.3251.2.camel@wazirkutz> On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 09:33 +0530, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Hi list, > > This year, we are going to have a lot of attentions to APAC. > > In order to ensure that important meetings does not get delayed or cancelled > in my absence, lets appoint a co-chair for the meetings. > > Heherson Pagcaliwagan from Fedora Philippines has volunteered for it. > > In case anyone else does volunteer for the job, please let us know, > we shall have a open discussion then. > > Thanks. > Hello, That's a very good idea to keep pace.. But rather leaving it to volunteers, I think you should suggest some names as you very well know the members who have been very active and committed. I appreciate the volunteering offer from Heherson. Cheers!! From slasherzee at yahoo.com Mon Jan 12 18:21:18 2009 From: slasherzee at yahoo.com (Doug Berry) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:21:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ambassadors] About Picture Book..... Message-ID: <879152.12780.qm@web63508.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I contacted a friend at LSI about making full-color interior hard-cover books. As soon as I hear something I will post it here. -- w Douglas Berry -- slasherzee at fedoraproject.org From subhodip at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 12 19:45:17 2009 From: subhodip at fedoraproject.org (subhodip biswas) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:15:17 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] APAC ambassadors meeting co-chair. In-Reply-To: <1231776495.3251.2.camel@wazirkutz> References: <1231776495.3251.2.camel@wazirkutz> Message-ID: <539333cb0901121145j120cda2ev4f6659d69767262f@mail.gmail.com> hi ! On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Salman Ullah Baig wrote: > On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 09:33 +0530, susmit shannigrahi wrote: >> Hi list, >> >> This year, we are going to have a lot of attentions to APAC. >> >> In order to ensure that important meetings does not get delayed or cancelled >> in my absence, lets appoint a co-chair for the meetings. >> >> Heherson Pagcaliwagan from Fedora Philippines has volunteered for it. >> >> In case anyone else does volunteer for the job, please let us know, >> we shall have a open discussion then. Nice idea ..plus a volunteer from a different time zone makes coordination easy .... >> >> Thanks. >> > > Hello, > That's a very good idea to keep pace.. But rather leaving it to > volunteers, I think you should suggest some names as you very well know > the members who have been very active and committed. I appreciate the > volunteering offer from Heherson. > > Cheers!! > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Regards Subhodip Biswas GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas From fhornain at gmail.com Mon Jan 12 21:44:46 2009 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:44:46 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM 2009 Schedule updated Message-ID: <3161376e0901121344i5661fddfs475ce1a5b0b64af8@mail.gmail.com> Dear *, FYI, you will find the final FOSDEM 09 schedule at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2009#Speakers_in_the_Dev_Room Best Regards Frederic -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Max From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Jan 13 10:38:19 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:38:19 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA ambassadors monthly meeting Message-ID: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-01-14 We will have our monthly Fedora EMEA ambassadors meeting tomorrow (Wednesday) at 20:00 UTC (21:00 CET). Feel free to add anything you like to the Agenda. The main plan for the meeting right now is to go through the remainder of the events calendar for Q4 (through the end of February) and to make sure that budget issues are all resolved. Thanks, Max From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Jan 13 12:43:04 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:43:04 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM attendees README Message-ID: Hi all, We have a tremendous number of Fedora contributors who are attending FOSDEM -- over 30. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2009 The year that I was at FOSDEM (2007), the booth was of a size that would accomodate about 5 people at a time. It will be the responsibility of Frederic to organize who is at the booth, but obviously we cannot have 30 people all standing around the booth, or there will be no time to talk to any of the visitors. I do not expect that everyone will spend exactly the same amount of time standing behind the booth, but I do expect that people will offer to spend some time at the booth, and that when they are at the booth, they will represent Fedora professionally. The DevRoom has a number of very interesting talks, and I encourage people to listen to those, and also to wander around and visit other booths, and listen to other talks that are interesting (like my talk in the main track!). Of course, you can also just take your laptop and work on Fedora stuff in one of the places where there is wifi internet. So try to do a variety of things during FOSDEM. Please wear your Fedora Ambassador polo shirts if you have them, and if you don't, please wear a Fedora tshirt of some sort. I'm not sure what Joerg is planning for making a new round of polos, but I will let him respond with any information that he has. ============ In the evenings, there is no way that we will be able to go to a single restaurant for dinner. I will recommend that we split into groups of no more than 10 people each when it comes time for meals, and I recommend that people go to dinner with folks who they might not otherwise spend much time with, so we can all get to know our fellow contributors better. ============ Finally, if you are receiving some sort of sponsorship for FOSDEM from the Community Architecture team, I ask you to look at the event reporting guidelines on the wiki. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReportingGuidelines ============ The FOSDEM that I was at in 2007 was a very fun time, and I expect that this will be another excellent event. I am looking forward to seeing you all there. --Max From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue Jan 13 15:14:25 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:14:25 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAD in late January or early/mid February? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > Back in December, I wrote about the idea of having Fedora Activity Days > (FAD) to complement FUDCons as the "top level" Fedora events in 2009. > > The idea of FADs, in short, is that they can be more numerous than FUDCons > because they have one or two specific goals (anything related to Fedora), > target a smaller number of people in a specific region or city, and are far > less expensive. > > In an ideal world, we'll get to a point where we are having 2 FADs per > month, in various places all over the world. > > I assume there's a lot of energy and motivation for various projects coming > out of FUDCon, and I'd like to see if any feature or group of people would > like to capitalize on that by organizing a FAD sometime between now and, > say, February 13th, so that the budget to support that FAD can come out of > the Community Architecture budget that disappears at the end of February. > > We're holding at FAD at FOSDEM in Brussels at the beginning of February, and > Sankarshan/Rahul are working on organizing one or more in India between now > and the end of February. > > I think we could probably fit one more in, and for the purposes of balance, > it would be nice to do it somewhere in North America, and use it to move > forward something that was discussed at FUDCon. > > If anyone wants to go for it, see: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_organize_a_FAD > > Thanks, > Max > > _______________________________________________ > fedora-advisory-board mailing list > fedora-advisory-board at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board > Max, I'm including the Fedora Ambassadors List because at one time we were going to have a FAD along side SCaLE and it can probably still happen. It's a little later than Feb 13 (Feb 20-22) but it's still in Q4. I think Larry Cafiero was interested in making this happen so I wanted to see what the possibilities were of making that happen. One thought is to do it on Feb 20 (the Friday) as there are special sessions going on and not general sessions. Thoughts? Clint From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Jan 13 15:55:23 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:55:23 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAD in late January or early/mid February? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Clint Savage wrote: > I'm including the Fedora Ambassadors List because at one time we were > going to have a FAD along side SCaLE and it can probably still happen. > It's a little later than Feb 13 (Feb 20-22) but it's still in Q4. I > think Larry Cafiero was interested in making this happen so I wanted > to see what the possibilities were of making that happen. One thought > is to do it on Feb 20 (the Friday) as there are special sessions going > on and not general sessions. I'm supportive of any group within Fedora (Ambassadors, Engineering, Websites, Infrastructure, Docs, etc. etc.) that wants to put a FAD together. My ideal-world vision is that different sub-teams or feature teams will take advantage of this model (get a group of people together to intensively focus on a small number of Fedora-related tasks) and the budget that exists to support it. What do you have in mind in terms of goals/agenda for a FAD at SCALE? --Max From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 13 16:20:26 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:20:26 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM attendees README In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200901131720.29977.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Dienstag, 13. Januar 2009 13:43:04 schrieb Max Spevack: > Please wear your Fedora Ambassador polo shirts if you have them, and if > you don't, please wear a Fedora tshirt of some sort. I'm not sure what > Joerg is planning for making a new round of polos, but I will let him > respond with any information that he has. A order is placed and SantaFeTex will produce them in time, so i can bring them to fosdem for all who are listed at the orderlist in the wiki. Additional in coordination with Fedora EMEA e.V. we have ordered 10 more in different sizes to equip Ambassadors at Fosdem. Overall 34 Polos. I will bring them - unless SantaFeTex send them to Poland like last year ;) CU Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From herlo at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 13 17:40:38 2009 From: herlo at fedoraproject.org (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:40:38 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAD in late January or early/mid February? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Clint Savage wrote: > >> I'm including the Fedora Ambassadors List because at one time we were >> going to have a FAD along side SCaLE and it can probably still happen. It's >> a little later than Feb 13 (Feb 20-22) but it's still in Q4. I think Larry >> Cafiero was interested in making this happen so I wanted to see what the >> possibilities were of making that happen. One thought is to do it on Feb 20 >> (the Friday) as there are special sessions going on and not general >> sessions. My plan was to get some folks from docs and from ambassadors together. I suppose there may be benefit for devs to come. The idea of having FAD on Friday would mean that while it could be linked up with the conference, it wouldn't interfere with the main conference sessions. The thought I had was to hack together some functionality in Moksha that could help ambassadors to track the activities going on within (and without) Fedora. Give us a portal (if you will) with a simiple way to add events, manage them and track resources. For Docs, it's an ongoing thing and since there are a few docs persons in California that might be able to come that couldn't make FUDCon, I think that'd be invaluable for them to meet others in the Docs team. It's also valuable to have some fun, so I think a nice dinner with the contributors would help congeal the group. I'm sure there's more here to think about and possibly do. But I think a FAD still needs a core goal (as was pointed out). We could reasonably get others to participate if we advertised now. Cheers, Clint From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Tue Jan 13 18:57:12 2009 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:57:12 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAD in late January or early/mid February? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7a0d56080901131057l56466e87j3a58f4078d2d6961@mail.gmail.com> I'm late to the party, as usual . . . . :-) On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Clint Savage wrote: > > My plan was to get some folks from docs and from ambassadors together. > I suppose there may be benefit for devs to come. The idea of having > FAD on Friday would mean that while it could be linked up with the > conference, it wouldn't interfere with the main conference sessions. Good idea. When I had discussed this with the SCaLE folks, they were concerned that a FAD on Sunday morning would affect the abillity of Fedorans to go to the show at that time. So Friday night might be good, and then that leaves the rest of the weekend for us to enjoy the show, staff the booth -- did I mention staffing the booth? -- and seeing Clint's great presentation After Max's message to the board here -- http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2008-December/msg00077.html-- it appears that FADs are going to be regional and decentralized, unlike the annual ambassador planning/educational event that the FAD at OLF was. I could be wrong on my understanding of the Fedora Ambassador Day concept, but now that it's Fedora Activity Day, it creates a wider range of possible activities. Having said this, we did go back to SCaLE a couple of weeks ago and tell them we weren't having a FAD at SCaLE (and there was also the issue of Q4 funds), opting instead to concentrate on a Q1 FAD at Linux Fest North West in Bellingham, Wash., in April. Frankly, there's no reason why we can't hold FADs at both. The thought I had was to hack together some functionality in Moksha > that could help ambassadors to track the activities going on within > (and without) Fedora. Give us a portal (if you will) with a simiple > way to add events, manage them and track resources. +1 > For Docs, it's an ongoing thing and since there are a few docs persons > in California that might be able to come that couldn't make FUDCon, I > think that'd be invaluable for them to meet others in the Docs team. > It's also valuable to have some fun, so I think a nice dinner with the > contributors would help congeal the group. > > I'm sure there's more here to think about and possibly do. But I > think a FAD still needs a core goal (as was pointed out). We could > reasonably get others to participate if we advertised now. So I'll go back to SCaLE and tell them we're looking at the Friday before their expo for a FAD and go from there. More to follow. 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A final call can be made once we see what kind of attendance and potential work can get done. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Jan 13 19:16:27 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:16:27 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAD in late January or early/mid February? In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080901131057l56466e87j3a58f4078d2d6961@mail.gmail.com> References: <7a0d56080901131057l56466e87j3a58f4078d2d6961@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Larry Cafiero wrote: > in Bellingham, Wash., in April. > > Frankly, there's no reason why we can't hold FADs at both. No reason not to throw a page up for a FAD around LFNW also, and see what ideas come together for that one. Preferably something different from the SCALE one :) --Max From lxmaier at gmail.com Tue Jan 13 19:41:29 2009 From: lxmaier at gmail.com (Alex) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:41:29 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: COSSFESST 09 In-Reply-To: <7423.139.142.13.107.1231875513.squirrel@mail.cistratech.com> References: <7423.139.142.13.107.1231875513.squirrel@mail.cistratech.com> Message-ID: <7f617d270901131141x33334e41j4ccc48972ce584ab@mail.gmail.com> Andrew, I think the Fedora Ambassadors are a good place to start. I am copying the list on my reply. I will check out your event web site and blog about it too, so it gets onto Planet Fedora. Cheers, a On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:38 PM, wrote: > Alex > > I am emailing you because I would like to request any assistance you > can give us in promoting our event this year. > > COSSFEST is a two day event featuring multiple speaking tracks and > workshops demonstrating the use of Open Source to lower costs, and > increase the capabilities and competitiveness of your business. > > COSSFEST brings together thought leaders in the technology industry, > technology professionals, businessmen, and computer enthusiasts to > share the latest news and Open Source know-how. > > COSSFEST 2009 will be held April 17th and 18th 2009 at the Coast > Plaza Hotel in Calgary > > We are actively seeking sponsors for our event and the Fedora Project is > of course one of our higher profile candidates. Fedora and Linux go hand > in hand with our Open source agenda. > > If you are not the correct person to be speaking to, would you be so kind > as to provide me the correct contact information? > > Our website address is http://www.cossfest.ca > > > Please let me know if there is anything you can do to assist with our > cause? > > > > Kind regards, > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the Cistra MailScanner and is believed to be clean. > > -- AMaier Art and Photography http://amaier.net From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 13 20:57:06 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:57:06 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Message-ID: <200901132157.11031.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear Ambassadors, let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Paulmellors from Nottingham, UK https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hacataka from Lima, Peru https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dushyanth from India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rfonseca from Brazil Regards Joerg p.s. 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URL: From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Tue Jan 13 22:38:14 2009 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:38:14 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome In-Reply-To: <9ae7d5480901131322y1e5c1653xdbfe13529b6dd36c@mail.gmail.com> References: <200901132157.11031.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <9ae7d5480901131322y1e5c1653xdbfe13529b6dd36c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1231886294.29665.38.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Dienstag, den 13.01.2009, 19:22 -0200 schrieb Ricardo Ichizo: > Welcome guys ;) > > [private] > Welcome new Ambassadors !!! > > Long life to Fedora Project ! > [/private] > > Just kidding... =D No HTML please, no top-posting! Please be so kind as to read the mailing list guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines J?rg, maybe this is something that should be mentioned in the 'Join' document? IMHO the ambassadors list is by far one of the worst lists at fpo regarding the violation of our guidelines. Regards, Christoph P.S.: Sorry to play the bad guy once more. ;) From inode0 at gmail.com Wed Jan 14 06:21:51 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:21:51 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Summary from 2009-01-07 Message-ID: * Announcements - FAD in late January or early/mid February? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2009-January/msg00017.html lcafiero filled everyone in on planning for a Fedora Activity Day at SCaLE pointing ambassadors to https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2009-January/msg00017.html Discussion of which groups to engage at SCaLE and LFNW FADs, package review was applauded by all as an excellent candidate. * Montreal Linux Symposium - djf_jeff, an ambassador from Quebec, stopped by to discuss what Fedora can do at the Linux Symposium. Further investigation and discussion will follow to try to get a good Fedora presence at this event. * FUDconF11 - ianweller points all to "What you missed at FUDConF11" from ianweller.org * FAmNA Meeting Schedule Revisited - Much discussion here, not much agreement on details. Here is what I think we did agree to do for now. (1) Finish out Q4 by meeting at the same time but on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday for the rest of January and February. (2) Continue getting feedback on f-a-l about alternative times when people who want to attend meetings and can't now could. (3) During Q1 we will try meeting at alternative times as a test drive to see how well they work if something reasonable for a time is proposed to us on f-a-l. * Tasks [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks] - Ambassador Kit task moved to complete post FUDcon. * Open Floor - ke4qqq announced that we have begun the process for evaluating npo status or umbrella - SFLC has assigned us pro bono counsel. Discussion followed ... - ke4qqq announced that he pitched that OLPC should let FAMNA handle XO developer program (the way developers get XOs) and that we use that as a tool to rapidly increase OLPC contributor numbers. Discussion followed ... - jds2001 mentioned that he *might* be doing a presentation next Wednesday for ~50. I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight. From inode0 at gmail.com Wed Jan 14 06:23:16 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:23:16 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2009-01-13 Message-ID: 02:00 < inode0> FAmNA Meeting 02:00 -!- lcafiero [n=larry at h-66-167-204-23.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 02:00 < inode0> Roll Call please 02:00 * lcafiero is Larry Cafiero 02:00 * ianweller appearing as himself 02:00 < ianweller> .wikiname ianweller 02:01 < ianweller> .list fedora 02:01 < zodbot> ianweller: branches, bug, ext, fas, fasinfo, fesco, group, refresh, rel, swedish, ticket, what, whoowns, and wikilink 02:01 < ianweller> oh. 02:01 < ianweller> .wikilink ianweller 02:01 < zodbot> ianweller: [[User:Ianweller|Ian Weller]] 02:01 < inode0> djf_jeff: ping 02:01 < djf_jeff> .wikilink jfsaucier 02:01 < zodbot> djf_jeff: [[User:Jfsaucier|Jean-Francois Saucier]] 02:01 < inode0> welcome 02:02 < djf_jeff> my first meeting, happy to be with you! 02:02 -!- neverho0d [n=psv at vpn-pool-78-139-211-129.tomtel.ru] has joined #fedora-meeting 02:02 * DemonJester present 02:02 < inode0> ke4qqq and herlo? 02:02 * DemonJester has to leave in about 45 minutes though 02:03 * ianweller is eating dinner 02:03 < inode0> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-01-13 02:03 * inode0 hopes that meets with ianweller's approval 02:04 * ke4qqq is here 02:04 < inode0> There is one announcement listed from spevack ... please read if you haven't and lcafiero may want to comment 02:04 < herlo> inode0: here but slightly unavailable 02:04 < ianweller> inode0: worksforme 02:04 < herlo> be available in 10mins at most 02:05 < inode0> that is fine herlo, thanks 02:05 < inode0> lcafiero: did you want to give us some thoughts about SCaLE? 02:06 < lcafiero> I do. But can I pass to have a chance to look at spevack's message? 02:07 < lcafiero> Okay, sorry 02:07 < lcafiero> shall I go ahead, inode0? 02:08 -!- crossbytes [n=crossbyt at fedora/crossbytes] has joined #fedora-meeting 02:08 -!- crossbytes [n=crossbyt at fedora/crossbytes] has quit [Client Quit] 02:09 < lcafiero> Hearing no objection, I'll talk about SCaLE 02:10 < lcafiero> Both herlo and I spoke with the organizers at SCaLE and it appears that we will have a FAD on Feb. 21 (the Friday before SCaLE) 02:10 < lcafiero> What precipitated this was an e-mail from spevack which some of you may have seen on the list. Also, agendized was spevack's e-mail to the fedora board here https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2009-January/msg00017.html 02:11 -!- crossbytes [n=crossbyt at fedora/crossbytes] has joined #fedora-meeting 02:12 * jds2001 here, sorry im late 02:12 < lcafiero> In any case, I'll be coordinating FADs at SCaLE and Linux Fest Northwest, unless someone closer to Washington wants to carry the ball on the latter. 02:13 < lcafiero> What we will need -- and I think the e-mails on list regarding the issue deal with them -- is a program 02:13 < lcafiero> And funding 02:13 < jds2001> what groups do we involve? 02:13 < lcafiero> And barring any questions, that's about the size of it. 02:13 < jds2001> ke4qqq and I were talking about packaging 02:13 < lcafiero> herlo has a pretty good handle on that part of it. 02:13 < jds2001> in order to reduce the backlog of reviews. 02:14 < lcafiero> (if our conversations with SCaLE are any indication) 02:14 < tibbs|h> Someone mention package reviews? 02:14 < jds2001> tibbs|h: :) 02:14 * herlo is here 02:15 < jds2001> tibbs|h: what we want is to get a FAD together in order to get sponsors in the smae room to work on the backlog. 02:15 < jds2001> is that a reasonable thing? 02:15 < tibbs|h> Forgive me; what's FAD? 02:15 < lcafiero> I think that could be part of it, and something herlo mentioned today with SCaLE 02:15 * ke4qqq thinks so 02:15 < lcafiero> I think 02:15 < jds2001> a "Fedora Activity Day" 02:15 < lcafiero> FAD = Fedora Activity Day 02:15 < tibbs|h> Ah. 02:15 < ke4qqq> but then I have a vested interest. 02:15 < jds2001> kinda like a mini-FUDCon that's quite focused. 02:16 < tibbs|h> Honestly I would have tried that at the fudcon hackfests had I not been so ill. 02:16 < lcafiero> As spevack has outlined it, probably micro FUDCon may be more accurate, but with a lot of them 02:16 < tibbs|h> We've done it before and it has worked, though not to the degree I would have liked. 02:16 < djf_jeff> I personally like the idea of FAD, the goal is really clear and targeted 02:17 < lcafiero> question to djf_jeff 02:18 < tibbs|h> Anyway, anything that helps review packages is great. 02:18 < lcafiero> djf_jeff, did you say there was an event where your're at? 02:18 < lcafiero> *you're 02:19 < tibbs|h> I won't be there (unless someone wants to fly me there) but I'm happy to hang around on IRC whenever people are meeting and answer questions. 02:19 < djf_jeff> lcafiero: I think that is the next point of the meeting after the FAD discussion 02:19 < lcafiero> Oh, got it. 02:20 < tibbs|h> Feel free to ping me if I can do anythin. 02:20 < jds2001> lcafiero: when are we doing packaging? 02:20 * DemonJester steps away for a few minutes 02:20 < jds2001> i think having tibbs|h would be invaluable :) 02:20 < jds2001> he's the head of the review SIG 02:21 < lcafiero> jds2001: good question. I don't know. 02:21 < jds2001> so we should budget to get him to whereever and whenever we do it. 02:22 < lcafiero> jds2001, if you mean which FAD, we can schedule it for SCaLE 02:22 -!- inode0 [n=inode0 at fedora/inode0] has quit [Connection timed out] 02:22 * lcafiero may be having problems with irc -- anyone else? 02:23 < jds2001> not i 02:23 < djf_jeff> Small question, is there a plan to make FAD available on the net, ex: a irc channel, a wiki page with a todo list, etc, so people not able to make it can contribute? 02:23 * DemonJester is back 02:23 < tibbs|h> I just looked up SCaLE, though, and I'm unfortunately occupied that weekend. 02:23 < tibbs|h> If indeed it's Feb 20-22. 02:23 -!- inode0 [n=inode0 at fedora/inode0] has joined #fedora-meeting 02:24 < jds2001> it is. :( 02:24 < herlo> it is 02:24 < tibbs|h> Have to run now, though; back in 12 minutes. 02:24 < jds2001> maybe do it at LFNW instead? 02:24 < lcafiero> djf_jeff, it/they could be, but I think by nature -- with there being a lot of them and regional, etc., it may not have to be 02:24 < inode0> sigh 02:24 * djf_jeff is sorry for his english skills, french is my native language, try to do the best! 02:24 < lcafiero> but that's my opinion, not fact. 02:25 < jds2001> djf_jeff: you're doing fine :) 02:25 < djf_jeff> lcafiero: I understand 02:25 < ke4qqq> djf_jeff: yes we can do that, but honestly it's not like being isolated from things going on in your normal life, which is hard to do if you are right there with them. 02:25 < lcafiero> If we have the resources, we could do what was done at FUDCon, and I think herlo had a hand in that. 02:25 < ke4qqq> moonwalk? 02:25 < DemonJester> lol 02:25 < herlo> heh 02:26 < ke4qqq> lcafiero: what are you talking about? 02:26 < jds2001> audio streaming, i think 02:26 < herlo> ambkits would be my guess 02:26 < ke4qqq> see what I mean 02:26 * lcafiero is responding to djf_jeff who asked if there was going to be a video feed, etc. 02:27 < ke4qqq> ahhhh sorry 02:27 * herlo isn't where he's supposed to be 02:28 < djf_jeff> not necessarily a video feed, but more a way to participate on specific goal in the FAD without being there physically 02:28 -!- lcafiero_ [n=lcafiero at h-66-167-204-23.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 02:28 -!- spoleeba [n=one at fedora/Jef] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:28 < djf_jeff> but I know it's not really the point of FAD 02:30 < ke4qqq> djf_jeff: yeah so the added benefit to FAD is lack of distractions or increased focus 02:31 -!- rwmjones [n=rwmjones at 87.127.66.208] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 02:31 < djf_jeff> yeah, effectively, it remove a good advantage of the FAD 02:32 < lcafiero> So at this point I think we should nail down what we want to accomplish at SCaLE 02:32 < lcafiero> Not tonight, maybe, but hash it out on list 02:33 < lcafiero> and I know there has already been discussion on list and here about what to schedule. 02:35 < inode0> sorry I am having problems tonight guys 02:36 * lcafiero is also 02:36 < crossbytes> same . it took 4 times to log in 02:37 < lcafiero> Is anyone else having trouble? my irc tends to be . . . choppy is a good way to describe it. 02:37 < jds2001> no trouble at all. 02:37 < djf_jeff> it seems to be good here 02:37 * lcafiero uses xchat and gets laughed at by his esteemed colleagues. 02:37 < inode0> I mostly have not been here and have no idea where we are 02:37 * jds2001 uses irssi on my vps 02:37 -!- rwmjones [n=rwmjones at 87.127.66.208] has joined #fedora-meeting 02:37 < lcafiero> I think we're finished with SCaLE and ready to go on to the next item 02:38 < inode0> jds2001: could you send me the log after the meeting since I did not capture it tonigh 02:38 < jds2001> inode0: sure 02:39 < inode0> so next would be Montreal, please start on that djf_jeff 02:39 < djf_jeff> ok, I have seen in the previous meetings minutes that there is a call for an Ambassador to do something at the Montreal Linux Symposium, what is the plan? 02:39 < ke4qqq> djf_jeff: the plan 02:40 < ke4qqq> is for us to find someone to run it 02:40 < ke4qqq> which thus far we have failed at 02:40 < DemonJester> preferably someone local 02:40 < inode0> we are looking for you to make our plan :) 02:41 < djf_jeff> inode0: ;) good, but this being my first meeting, I don't really know what to plan! 02:41 < inode0> well, run something - could be a FAD, could be something else 02:41 < djf_jeff> ah ok, good 02:41 < inode0> something for fedora at MLS 02:41 < ke4qqq> djf_jeff: we can help you with that - we really just need someone on the ground to help 02:42 < inode0> are there booths at MLS? 02:42 -!- linuxguru [n=linuxgur at unaffiliated/linuxguru] has joined #fedora-meeting 02:42 < djf_jeff> I cannot confirm my presence tonight, I need to see with my employer what can be done for the Symposium dates, I can return in a future meeting about that 02:42 < ke4qqq> probably, but they wanted a hackfest as well..... 02:42 < lcafiero> Or check in on the e-mail list? 02:42 < ke4qqq> djf_jeff: mailing list may be easier 02:43 < inode0> they basically were offering us space to use how we want 02:43 < djf_jeff> ke4qqq: ambassador list? 02:43 -!- lcafiero_ [n=lcafiero at h-66-167-204-23.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:44 * lcafiero is still here 02:44 < ke4qqq> djf_jeff: yes 02:44 < herlo> hi 02:44 < ke4qqq> hola herlo 02:44 < herlo> I've been lurking 02:45 < inode0> djf_jeff: we could use some help generally with Canada I think 02:45 < lcafiero> +1 02:45 < djf_jeff> I will be glad to offer it the best I can 02:46 < inode0> great, thanks 02:46 < inode0> so we are going to continue with MLS on the f-a-l? 02:47 < lcafiero> +1 02:47 < djf_jeff> +1, I have take a note to check my availability for the dates and to think what we can do there 02:47 < inode0> That is great djf_jeff 02:47 < inode0> Anyone have anything to report related to FUDcon? 02:47 < ke4qqq> djf_jeff: where are you at in CA? 02:48 < herlo> djf_jeff: put yerself on our regions page :) 02:48 < herlo> ke4qqq: can give you the link 02:48 * ianweller has a bad want to respond to inode0's query with "What you missed at FUDConF11" from ianweller.org 02:48 < djf_jeff> there? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList#NorthernAmerica 02:48 < herlo> no 02:49 < djf_jeff> I am from Quebec City 02:49 < ke4qqq> ianweller: so did I 02:49 < inode0> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Regions 02:49 < herlo> djf_jeff: always use https on fp.o otherwise you can't edit 02:50 < ianweller> i have a greasemonkey script to make sure fp.o/wiki is always on https. i should fix it and post it sometime. 02:51 < djf_jeff> ok it's done 02:52 < inode0> fine, moving on them 02:52 < inode0> then 02:52 < herlo> ianweller: u should 02:52 < inode0> how to proceed with scheduling meetings? is everyone here agreeable to herlo's suggestion? 02:53 < ke4qqq> which was? 02:53 < herlo> biweekly? 02:53 < inode0> 2nd Tue and 4th Thu was it? 02:53 < jds2001> we tend to use an hour every week! 02:53 < jds2001> how can we go biweekly??? 02:53 < herlo> we can 02:53 * lcafiero thought there was a Saturday involved, but he could be wrong 02:54 < herlo> that was a suggestion 02:54 < jds2001> we'll still be meeting at 3AM, oh well :) 02:54 < lcafiero> got it 02:54 * ke4qqq argues that it should be the same day/time regardless of frequency 02:54 < herlo> but sat/sun generally is harder for some 02:54 * jds2001 too, I couldn't possibly keep track. 02:54 * DemonJester agrees with ke4qqq 02:54 < inode0> you guys don't have calendars? 02:54 < djf_jeff> +1 for ke4qqq 02:55 < jds2001> nope 02:55 < DemonJester> yes but also personal lives as well 02:55 < lcafiero> jds2001, in the best of all possible worlds, much can be hashed out on the list 02:55 < herlo> ke4qqq: I'll remind you 02:55 < lcafiero> but you do have a good point re time 02:55 * DemonJester asks herlo to remind me as well 02:55 < herlo> the problem qith the same day is that it fails to involve others who can't make tuesdays 02:55 < herlo> demonjester: I'll remind everyone :) 02:56 * ke4qqq is familiar with the problem 02:56 < ke4qqq> but also reminds herlo of his comment - those who want to will show up 02:56 < inode0> ke4qqq: what precisely would you propose 02:56 < herlo> ke4qqq: hehe, sure 02:57 < herlo> ke4qqq: I've since been convinced 02:57 < herlo> that others can help more :) 02:57 < ke4qqq> IF the group of people who show up regularly decide that they want to move it - move it to a different day that stays the same all of the time 02:57 < ke4qqq> so if you do Thursday at 3am, each meeting stays at thursday 02:57 < herlo> and since I can make both (most likely) it's good 02:58 < ke4qqq> frequency is a different issue. 02:58 < inode0> ok, those who show up seem content to me 02:58 < crossbytes> the thing that i noticed in fal is that the only people commenting is the people that go to the Tu meeting... 02:58 < inode0> and one person who can't 02:58 < herlo> ke4qqq: what if we try it for 2-4 months to see? 02:59 < ke4qqq> ohhh interesting observation 02:59 < inode0> two people who can't 02:59 < ke4qqq> so are we talking about a single person wanting to move it? seems like Tuesday works for most of us? 02:59 < herlo> inode0: max? 03:00 < inode0> and the guy who raised this last year 03:00 < ke4qqq> Max doesn't count - he isn't in NA, and he is from RH 03:00 -!- jwb [n=jwboyer at fedora/jwb] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:00 < djf_jeff> personally, I cannot attend on Thu for the moment (both personal reasons and because of the Quebec LUG) 03:00 < inode0> I'm sorry, any FAmSCo member who wants to come to our meetings counts in my book 03:00 < ke4qqq> we are NOT adjusting schedule fro a @RH person. 03:00 < herlo> ke4qqq: I dont think it was suggested to accommodate one other but rather as an opportunity to spread our wings 03:00 < ke4qqq> that's the opposite of how it should be 03:01 < jds2001> ke4qqq: but if I were in the netherlands temporarily would you adjust the schedule for me? 03:01 < ke4qqq> no 03:01 < inode0> and the proposed time suggested by herlo does not accommodate max anyway 03:01 < herlo> I'm not moving for any one person, @rh or not.. 03:01 < ke4qqq> jds2001: I'd tell you to get involved with EMEA 03:01 < jds2001> if I already am? 03:01 < ke4qqq> while you were there 03:01 < inode0> timeout 03:02 < inode0> we aren't adjusting the schedule for max 03:02 < herlo> I'm interested in seeing who else might attend if we had two available days 03:02 < ke4qqq> then great - I am not changing the schedule to accomodate one person not in the region for a year. 03:02 < inode0> while we are adjusting the schedule I think we should consider max 03:02 < ke4qqq> We've asked, and per crossbytes gotten one response other than Max. 03:02 * DemonJester thinks is will be the same that attend now 03:02 < inode0> if it doesn't work out it doesn't work out 03:02 < ke4qqq> what does it cost us if it fails? 03:02 < herlo> are we adjusting the schedule? ke4qqq seems adamant we shouldn't 03:03 * ke4qqq isn't saying that at all 03:03 * herlo wants to see what will happen if we try it 03:03 * ke4qqq is saying we shouldn't adjust to accomodate Max's schedule. 03:03 < herlo> and we're not 03:03 < inode0> Here is what I'm going to propose tonight - the rest of this quarter we move to 1st and 3rd Tue at the same time 03:03 < ke4qqq> I am happy to consider other times and frequencies 03:03 < crossbytes> my 2 cents .. i do not think we should adjust but adding an extra day a month to test the theory out might be good.. 03:04 < inode0> Beginning in Mar those who want it different can make their case on f-a-l?! 03:04 < inode0> Or in time to begin in Mar? 03:04 < herlo> crossbytes, I could go for that 03:05 * ke4qqq likes inode0's idea - but thinks we should prolly look at it as we proceed. 03:05 < ke4qqq> herlo: are your reminders still going out? 03:05 < herlo> ke4qqq: I didnt do it tonight but yeah 03:05 * ke4qqq thought it was automated 03:06 -!- nman64 [n=n-man at fedora/nman64] has joined #fedora-meeting 03:06 < herlo> nope 03:06 < ke4qqq> inode0 has made a proposal, thoughts? flames? comments? 03:06 < herlo> though it can be. I might ask for resources to make it automatic 03:07 < lcafiero> +1 to inode0 03:07 < herlo> I say we do both inode0's and crossbytes ideas 03:07 < djf_jeff> +1, I think we can test the proposal 03:07 * lcafiero can go for that, too 03:07 < DemonJester> I think we should do one or the other personaly 03:07 < ke4qqq> +1 from me too 03:07 < DemonJester> personally.. 03:07 < herlo> run 1st and 3rd Tues and 4th Thurs 03:07 < ke4qqq> DemonJester: why is that? 03:07 < inode0> I don't know if a one off meeting is a fair test but I'm game to try it 03:08 < DemonJester> are we not talking about bi weekly? 03:08 < inode0> why stop there? how about a weekend during the day too? 03:08 * herlo will check his calendar to make sure those dates werq 03:08 < herlo> inode0 feel free 03:08 < inode0> how about someone/anyone who wants it changed propose a time to test rather than us doing it? 03:09 * lcafiero will be away from the keyboard for a few minutes -- dinner is on the table. 03:09 < ke4qqq> well the thing is - historically non-same day/time meetings have failed....regardless of organization - people are creatures of habit. 03:09 < herlo> inode0: I thought you proposed it :) 03:09 -!- Netsplit brown.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: rdieter 03:09 < ke4qqq> herlo: no he proposed changing frequency 03:09 < inode0> and I suspect half of us won't show up at any other time for a one off meeting 03:09 < ke4qqq> not date 03:09 < DemonJester> ke4qqq: I missed herlo's message of 1st and 3rd tues and 4th thurs. 03:09 < inode0> but we would if that were the real meeting time 03:10 < herlo> thus my request to try it for a few months 03:10 < inode0> oh, I misunderstood - ok 03:10 < inode0> thought just try it one week 03:10 < ke4qqq> same 3 month time period? 03:11 < herlo> sure 03:11 < herlo> why not 03:11 < inode0> let's run the test in Q1 and iron it out on f-a-l? 03:11 < inode0> mainly we need a time that makes whoever isn't coming happy 03:11 < herlo> so we're not doing any of this until q1? 03:12 * herlo was planning on starting asap 03:12 < inode0> I'd like to go to 1st and 3rd Tue for the rest of Q4 03:12 < inode0> we have a guest already scheduled for 1st Tue next month 03:12 < crossbytes> is the q1 q2 .. fiscal? 03:12 < herlo> no 03:12 * DemonJester apologizes but I need to leave. I will go with whatever you guys decide. Just remind me herlo ;) 03:12 * herlo has to go 03:13 < jds2001> herlo: yes it is 03:13 < jds2001> herlo: red hat's fiscal year 03:13 < djf_jeff> yeah, because normally, we are already in Q1 03:13 < jds2001> March 1 - Feb 28 is Red Hat's fiscal year. 03:13 < inode0> fiscal year starts in March 03:13 < jds2001> so we're in fiscal Q4 right now. 03:13 < inode0> so we are in Q4 now 03:13 < djf_jeff> a ok, based on Red Hat fiscal 03:13 < inode0> yes 03:14 < crossbytes> can i suggest to put that on the FAD and Events wiki 03:14 < inode0> So I'm suggesting we finish out this month and next with a couple of weeks off and start something new in March 03:14 -!- ldimaggi_ [n=ldimaggi at c-76-19-171-76.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:15 < inode0> or decide to not start something new, either way 03:15 < jds2001> we alredy have mmcgrath lined up. 03:16 < inode0> yes, 1st Tue in Feb 03:16 < inode0> it is on his schedule and I think we should keep that meeting 03:16 < inode0> no matter what else we do 03:17 < ke4qqq> +1 03:17 < jds2001> and why would we otherwise take a month hiatus???? 03:17 < djf_jeff> +1 for 1st and 3rd Tue for the moment 03:19 < inode0> I'll post to f-a-l the plan, that we are basically happy with Tue, and ask anyone wishing to change it to propose a good time and we'll schedule a test drive in March?! 03:19 < jds2001> sure 03:19 < crossbytes> +1 03:19 < ke4qqq> +1 03:20 < djf_jeff> ok, and do we change anything for the moment? 03:20 < inode0> we will immediately go to 1st and 3rd Tue I think if I understand 03:20 < ke4qqq> inode0: you are the one stating the plan so I hope you understand 03:20 < ke4qqq> :) 03:21 < inode0> If I don't ke4qqq can explain my plan to me later 03:21 < inode0> let's go to tasks now 03:22 < inode0> anyone do their contact speakers bits? 03:22 < inode0> if not I'll change next report date to the 20th 03:23 < inode0> ambassador kit creation report is due after FUDcon 03:23 < inode0> I think we say done? 03:23 < jds2001> ambkits were created. 03:23 < ke4qqq> +1 03:23 < ke4qqq> and shipped out 03:23 < inode0> will move to completed 03:24 < inode0> event box task - shall we see about extra funds going to buy one of these in Q4 03:24 < ke4qqq> we should 03:25 < inode0> I'll task myself with doing that too 03:25 < inode0> it is late but are there any open floor things for this evening? 03:25 * ke4qqq has one 03:26 < ke4qqq> or two actually 03:26 < inode0> ke4qqq has the floor until he yields 03:26 < ke4qqq> ok....1. 03:27 < ke4qqq> we have begun the process for evaluating npo status or umbrella - SFLC has assigned us pro bono counsel 03:27 < ke4qqq> that is all for number 1 03:27 < ke4qqq> updates will follow as known 03:28 < inode0> question: who is we? 03:28 < inode0> since I know nothing about this 03:28 < ke4qqq> essentially FAMNA 03:28 < ke4qqq> we talked about it at FADNA 03:28 < ke4qqq> and said we would explore it 03:28 < ke4qqq> so rather than our amateur minds trying to do so 03:29 < ke4qqq> a guy at fudcon who works for SFLC has hooked us up with SFLC 03:29 < ke4qqq> to help us evaluate our options 03:29 < ke4qqq> and determine the least risky way. 03:29 -!- nman64 is now known as nman64_away 03:29 < jds2001> remy is a good guy. 03:29 < ke4qqq> whether that be under the Software Freedom Conservancy 03:29 < ke4qqq> or on our own 03:29 < ke4qqq> and in what state if necessary 03:29 < inode0> this should be documented on the wiki 03:29 < ke4qqq> yeah REMY is 03:29 < ke4qqq> Greg suggested that I not 03:30 < inode0> sigh, I'll shut up for tonight 03:30 < ke4qqq> not that we want to hide it from the community - but he said we don't want to get RH legal involved 03:30 < ke4qqq> until we have our stuff done 03:30 * herlo is back now 03:31 < ke4qqq> he suggested that we follow EMEA's lead. 03:31 < ke4qqq> and 'just do it' 03:31 < ke4qqq> ready for #2? 03:31 < ke4qqq> or more questions? 03:31 < herlo> is this stuff going to be on the irc log? 03:32 < jds2001> sure 03:32 < ke4qqq> yes 03:32 < ke4qqq> but that's only posted to the FAL list 03:32 < ke4qqq> which requires membership to view 03:32 < herlo> okay, just wondered if we have a concern there is all 03:32 -!- GeroldKa [n=GeroldKa at fedora/geroldka] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:32 < ke4qqq> and to the Meeting: namespace which isn't in default search 03:32 < ke4qqq> anything else? 03:33 -!- GeroldKa [n=GeroldKa at fedora/geroldka] has joined #fedora-meeting 03:33 < ke4qqq> ready for 2? 03:33 < jds2001> dutr 03:33 < ke4qqq> dutr? 03:33 < jds2001> sure 03:33 * jds2001 cant type 03:33 < ke4qqq> 2: OLPC has recently layed off almost ALL of their engineering staff 03:33 < ke4qqq> and they will be relying on the community for a LOT of work 03:33 < ke4qqq> and by community I mean Fedora 03:34 < ke4qqq> so I pitched that OLPC should let FAMNA handle XO developer program (the way developers get XOs) and that we use that as a tool to rapidly increase OLPC contributor numbers. 03:35 < inode0> no, it doesn't require anything to view 03:35 < jds2001> huh? 03:35 < ke4qqq> Greg seconded the idea ......sooo hopefully we'll see what they say in a day or so. 03:35 < inode0> f-a-l is open to read 03:35 < ke4qqq> no it isn't 03:36 < ke4qqq> is it? 03:36 < jds2001> yes it is :) 03:36 < ke4qqq> ahhh well 03:36 < jds2001> it's not a big worry, I'm sure. 03:36 < inode0> and this should not be done in secret 03:36 < inode0> I doubt Red Hat legal reads it 03:36 < ke4qqq> it's not being done in secret - I just told everyone...we just aren't telling the lawyers 03:36 < ke4qqq> we've openly talked about it at FADNA 03:36 < crossbytes> can you post there answer to the list about the XO 03:37 < ke4qqq> crossbytes: absolutely 03:37 * jds2001 is gonna do some 8.2.1 testing soonish. 03:37 * ke4qqq has 8.2.1 loaded and likes the improvements. 03:37 < jds2001> have the files downloaded, might put it on tonight. 03:38 < djf_jeff> ke4qqq: what is the percentage of stuff done by the Fedora community in the XO project? do you have any numbers? 03:38 < ke4qqq> djf_jeff: prevoiously they just used our bits.... 03:38 < jds2001> most packages aare ours. 03:38 < jds2001> there's a very few branched for olpc-4 03:39 < ke4qqq> djf_jeff: in the future - we'll essentially do all of the QA, packaging, virtually everything.....they have only one engineer left at OLPC 03:39 < jds2001> [jstanley at rugrat ~]$ koji list-tagged dist-olpc4 | wc -l 03:39 < jds2001> 42 03:39 < ke4qqq> jds2001: right, and they are working at reducing those 03:39 < djf_jeff> thank you, seems like a good opportunity for the Fedora community 03:39 < ke4qqq> indeed! 03:41 < ke4qqq> eof from me unless there are any other questions. 03:41 * lcafiero is back 03:42 < inode0> anything else from anyone? 03:42 < djf_jeff> not for me 03:42 < lcafiero> nor me 03:42 * jds2001 has one thing 03:42 < inode0> go ahead please 03:43 < jds2001> i *might* be doing a presentatiaon next wednesday for ~50 03:43 < ke4qqq> cool! 03:43 < jds2001> depnds on if they need me :) 03:43 < jds2001> the other speaker could fall through at NYLUG 03:43 < ke4qqq> what do you need from us? 03:44 < jds2001> nothing i dont think, just FYI 03:44 < jds2001> I got an ambkit at fudcon.] 03:44 < ke4qqq> jds2001: on the event page yet? 03:44 -!- hanthana [n=hanthana at 124.43.147.235] has joined #fedora-meeting 03:44 < jds2001> not yet confirmed. 03:45 < ianweller> oh god, we've broken back into the tradition of 105-minute meetings again? 03:45 < herlo> longest meeting evar!!! 03:45 < inode0> sadly 03:46 < jds2001> this is why i have reservations about every other week :) 03:46 < inode0> but that means we have things to talk about which isn't all bad :) 03:46 * jds2001 will still be up at 3AM eastern meeting! 03:46 < inode0> won't happen jds2001 - we'll type faster 03:46 < ke4qqq> lol 03:46 < inode0> we will meet next week again ... 03:46 * ke4qqq twice monthly meetings come with speedtyping lessons 03:47 < ke4qqq> :) 03:47 < lcafiero> heh 03:47 < inode0> let's wrap this one - thanks everyone and welcome djf_jeff 03:47 < inode0> 5 03:47 < inode0> 4 03:47 < lcafiero> bienvenue djf_jeff 03:47 < inode0> 3 03:47 < djf_jeff> thank you! 03:47 < inode0> 2 03:47 < inode0> 1 03:47 < herlo> welcom djf_jeff 03:47 < inode0> EOF From inode0 at gmail.com Wed Jan 14 06:24:34 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:24:34 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAmNA Meeting Summary from 2009-01-07 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bah! This is for 2009-01-13 ... sorry. John From inode0 at gmail.com Wed Jan 14 07:00:59 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:00:59 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meetings Revisited In-Reply-To: References: <49634CE1.5080201@nd.edu> <17fa59580901061311q429f8be8o29f198d056257334@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > In other words, I'd love to be able to attend (and for now I'm 6 hours ahead > of the east coast), but don't let me alter a wider consensus on the meeting > time. If it needs to be after dinner eastern time, so be it. I can read > logs, and folks have been really good about pinging me and emailing me with > stuff that I need to see. After discussing this during the meeting this evening here is our current thinking. For the remainder of Q4 (through February) we are going to meet on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday at the same time we have been meeting. This time works well for all of us and we have one guest scheduled in February for the 1st Tuesday (Mike McGrath will talk with us about the infrastructure group). In Q1 we are willing to try meeting at least once a month at a different time and/or day. As best as I can tell there have been two people in this thread who can't come to our meetings now and who have expressed an interest in doing so. We ask them to propose a specific time/day they would like the meeting at and if most of the regular group can make that work we'll try it during Q1 and see how it goes. We would ask this to be done reasonably soon as we are trying to schedule additional guests to speak with us during meetings from various groups within the project in the future. Thanks, John From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 14 08:10:10 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:10:10 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome In-Reply-To: <1231886294.29665.38.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <200901132157.11031.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <9ae7d5480901131322y1e5c1653xdbfe13529b6dd36c@mail.gmail.com> <1231886294.29665.38.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <200901140910.19192.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Dienstag, 13. Januar 2009 23:38:14 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > J?rg, maybe this is something that should be mentioned in the 'Join' > document? IMHO the ambassadors list is by far one of the worst lists at > fpo regarding the violation of our guidelines. Thanks Christoph you are right with your points. Every new applicant to Ambassadors receives a personal Message with steps he has to fulfill to become a Ambassador - and Step7 is, to read the ML Guidlines. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService#Membership_Check_.28Draft.29 Time is valuable and wasting this time with reading full-quoted or private, off-topic emails is annoying. We have decreased this kind of messages in the past 6 month and with the help of the regional Mentors we will enlighten the rest of the jesters. We are over 600 Ambassadors from all over the World and i think there are only a few who violate the guidelines - and mostly it?s done with a clarification - "Don?t do it again". I put People only on moderation if they are not willing to learn. We are maybe not the most professionalised Mailing List but a very kind one - and besides all the rules and bureaucracy we should keep this good spirit and follow the ML Guidlines ;) cu Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jan 14 10:10:13 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:10:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA ambassadors monthly meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Reminder. This meeting is tonight. On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Max Spevack wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-01-14 > > We will have our monthly Fedora EMEA ambassadors meeting tomorrow > (Wednesday) at 20:00 UTC (21:00 CET). > > Feel free to add anything you like to the Agenda. The main plan for > the meeting right now is to go through the remainder of the events > calendar for Q4 (through the end of February) and to make sure that > budget issues are all resolved. > > Thanks, Max From stickster at gmail.com Wed Jan 14 12:13:56 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul Frields) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:13:56 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAD in late January or early/mid February? In-Reply-To: References: <7a0d56080901131057l56466e87j3a58f4078d2d6961@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Larry Cafiero wrote: > >> in Bellingham, Wash., in April. >> >> Frankly, there's no reason why we can't hold FADs at both. > > No reason not to throw a page up for a FAD around LFNW also, and see what > ideas come together for that one. Preferably something different from the > SCALE one :) Trivial reminder: Make sure that, in accordance with the good information that Ian gave us about the wiki, you name the pages in English such as: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_at_Show_Name_2009 Paul From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jan 14 12:18:51 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:18:51 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAD in late January or early/mid February? In-Reply-To: References: <7a0d56080901131057l56466e87j3a58f4078d2d6961@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Jan 2009, Paul Frields wrote: > Trivial reminder: Make sure that, in accordance with the good > information that Ian gave us about the wiki, you name the pages in > English such as: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_at_Show_Name_2009 And also please add it to the index on /wiki/FAD Thank you, /wiki/MaxSpevack From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jan 14 13:54:59 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:54:59 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Reimbursement process (please read) Message-ID: Hi Ambassadors, I have updated the page that discusses how community reimbursements work. -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements It is also linked off of the main FedoraEvents page. I ask you all to do three things: (1) Read it, and ask any questions that you have about structure or process on this thread. (2) If you are currently awaiting some reimbursement, kindly create a ticket for it, following this process. It will make things to a lot faster. This is especially true of all the various FOSDEM sponsorships that exist. (3) Help make sure that new Ambassadors and anyone who is an event owner or regional leader understands the process. Mention this in your regional meetings. My goal is to make this as easy as possible for everyone while still complying with what Red Hat needs, so please share with me your comments, thoughts, or concerns. Remember, I work for you! Thanks, Max From fhornain at gmail.com Wed Jan 14 14:12:36 2009 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:12:36 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM: Devroom schedule shift on Saturday Message-ID: <3161376e0901140612w1b4724b6yc0c4bc3a425d8f9d@mail.gmail.com> Dear * I'm afraid that, due to the usual fun of dealing with the ULB, the schedule for Developer Rooms on Saturday has shifted: from 12:00 -> 18:00 to 13:00 -> 19:00 I assume that it's fine if we simply keep your schedule for Saturday as-is and simply shift each talk to being one hour later. If not, please reply ASAP. Sorry for the inconvenience FYI, I am going to update the Fedora wiki page : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2009 Best Regards Frederic -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jan 14 14:16:14 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:16:14 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FOSDEM: Devroom schedule shift on Saturday In-Reply-To: <3161376e0901140612w1b4724b6yc0c4bc3a425d8f9d@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0901140612w1b4724b6yc0c4bc3a425d8f9d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Jan 2009, Frederic Hornain wrote: > I'm afraid that, due to the usual fun of dealing with the ULB, the > schedule for Developer Rooms on Saturday has shifted: > from 12:00 -> 18:00 > to 13:00 -> 19:00 > > I assume that it's fine if we simply keep your schedule for Saturday > as-is and simply shift each talk to being one hour later. > If not, please reply ASAP. Yeah, unless you specifically hear from soneone, just move everything back an hour. --Max From david at gnsa.us Wed Jan 14 14:38:17 2009 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:38:17 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAD in late January or early/mid February? In-Reply-To: References: <7a0d56080901131057l56466e87j3a58f4078d2d6961@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 14 Jan 2009, Paul Frields wrote: > >> Trivial reminder: Make sure that, in accordance with the good information >> that Ian gave us about the wiki, you name the pages in English such as: >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_at_Show_Name_2009 > > And also please add it to the index on /wiki/FAD > > Thank you, > /wiki/MaxSpevack > I think the new standard is to use Category pages as indexes rather than having an index page that is stand alone. Ian: Am I correct in this statement? So one would add this to Category:FAD and by going to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:FAD would be able to see all of the FAD pages. From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 14 15:59:33 2009 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:59:33 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Reimbursement process (please read) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > Hi Ambassadors, > > I have updated the page that discusses how community reimbursements work. -- > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements > > It is also linked off of the main FedoraEvents page. > > I ask you all to do three things: > > (1) Read it, and ask any questions that you have about structure or process > on this thread. > > (2) If you are currently awaiting some reimbursement, kindly create a ticket > for it, following this process. It will make things to a lot faster. This > is especially true of all the various FOSDEM sponsorships that exist. > > (3) Help make sure that new Ambassadors and anyone who is an event owner or > regional leader understands the process. Mention this in your regional > meetings. > > My goal is to make this as easy as possible for everyone while still > complying with what Red Hat needs, so please share with me your comments, > thoughts, or concerns. Remember, I work for you! > > Thanks, > Max > Thank you for this precious update and for all your work for us :) Regards Francesco Ugolini From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jan 14 16:24:43 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:24:43 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FOSDEM: Devroom schedule shift on Saturday In-Reply-To: References: <3161376e0901140612w1b4724b6yc0c4bc3a425d8f9d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Jan 2009, Max Spevack wrote: >> I assume that it's fine if we simply keep your schedule for Saturday >> as-is and simply shift each talk to being one hour later. If not, >> please reply ASAP. Is someone willing to switch places with Luca Foppiano and give him a Saturday slot in return for the Sunday one? --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jan 14 21:26:06 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:26:06 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA ambassadors meeting summary Message-ID: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-01-14 HTML log: http://mspevack.fedorapeople.org/logs/2009-01-14-emea-ambassadors.html From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Jan 14 21:32:13 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:32:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: EMEA ambassadors meeting summary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-01-14 > > HTML log: > > http://mspevack.fedorapeople.org/logs/2009-01-14-emea-ambassadors.html Kindly s/summary/minutes in the Subjet. Thank you, Max :P From mxcarron at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 15 00:19:36 2009 From: mxcarron at fedoraproject.org (Maxime Carron) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:19:36 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: EMEA ambassadors meeting summary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090115011936.38f7b814@fedoraproject.org> On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:32:13 +0100 (CET) Max Spevack wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-01-14 > > > > HTML log: > > > > http://mspevack.fedorapeople.org/logs/2009-01-14-emea-ambassadors.html > > Kindly s/summary/minutes in the Subjet. > > Thank you, > Max :P > Sorry I didn't attend this meeting, we had Fedora-lyon (monthly meeting IRL (!!!!) of fedora people in Lyon, France) Thanks for the log. See you soon. Max From paul at paulmellors.net Thu Jan 15 07:55:48 2009 From: paul at paulmellors.net (Paul Mellors) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:55:48 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA ambassadors meeting summary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <496EEC04.6040903@paulmellors.net> Max Spevack wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-01-14 > > HTML log: > > http://mspevack.fedorapeople.org/logs/2009-01-14-emea-ambassadors.html > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Another apology for not attending i'm afraid, a four month old son is quite demanding :) Best regards Paul From paul at paulmellors.net Thu Jan 15 09:58:34 2009 From: paul at paulmellors.net (Paul Mellors) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:58:34 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website Message-ID: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> Hi all, I'm thinking of setting up a Fedora UK community website [fedora-uk.org - nothing there at the moment] where all the UK fedora users, developers et al can get together, chat, exchange ideas use forums have their own planet etc etc First of all, i don't want to duplicate peoples work so is there any thing like this currently? Is there a template available for something like drupal [or anything else] to keep it inline with all things fedora [their wiki etc] Have i posted this to the right mailing list? ;) Am i wasting my time? Do i need anyones permission for starting things like this? Sorry for all the questions i'm relatively new at this. Comments would be welcome, bearing in mind it's only an idea at this stage. Thanks Paul Mellors [MooDoo] paulmellors at fedoraproject.org From frankly3d at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 15 10:03:20 2009 From: frankly3d at fedoraproject.org (Frank Murphy) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:03:20 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> Message-ID: <496F09E8.8060406@fedoraproject.org> Paul Mellors wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm thinking of setting up a Fedora UK community website [fedora-uk.org > - nothing there at the moment] Permission would be needed for fedora in a name it's a legal tm, check with advisory-boaerd list. where all the UK fedora users, developers > et al can get together, chat, exchange ideas use forums have their own > planet etc etc > > First of all, i don't want to duplicate peoples work so is there any > thing like this currently? Is there a template available for something > like drupal [or anything else] to keep it inline with all things fedora > [their wiki etc] > I was going to do something similar for Ireland, but I believe at the time there was a move on to try get country page up within the main fedora effort. Open to correction on this. Frank From gerold at lugd.org Thu Jan 15 11:24:14 2009 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:24:14 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <496F09E8.8060406@fedoraproject.org> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <496F09E8.8060406@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <13302.217.162.12.42.1232018654.squirrel@www.gbc.net> > Paul Mellors wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm thinking of setting up a Fedora UK community website [fedora-uk.org >> - nothing there at the moment] > > Permission would be needed for fedora in a name it's a legal tm, > check with advisory-boaerd list. > > where all the UK fedora users, developers >> et al can get together, chat, exchange ideas use forums have their own >> planet etc etc >> >> First of all, i don't want to duplicate peoples work so is there any >> thing like this currently? Is there a template available for something >> like drupal [or anything else] to keep it inline with all things fedora >> [their wiki etc] >> > > I was going to do something similar for Ireland, but I believe at the > time there was a move on to try get country page up within the main > fedora effort. Open to correction on this. ^^ Why something special? Why not being in the official Fedora Environment? Regards Gerold From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Jan 15 14:22:26 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:22:26 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 rome release part Message-ID: I have a receipt for 55.90 EUR from what is clearly the Rome release party. To whom do I owe this money? Please open a ticket. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements Thanks, Max From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Jan 15 14:55:25 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:55:25 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] F10 rome release part In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Jan 2009, Max Spevack wrote: > I have a receipt for 55.90 EUR from what is clearly the Rome release > party. > > To whom do I owe this money? We figured it out. Ironically, I have already paid the person, back in December. I live my life in a state of total confusion. --Max From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Thu Jan 15 17:03:32 2009 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:03:32 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <13302.217.162.12.42.1232018654.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <496F09E8.8060406@fedoraproject.org> <13302.217.162.12.42.1232018654.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <1232039012.3845.28.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Donnerstag, den 15.01.2009, 12:24 +0100 schrieb Gerold: > > Paul Mellors wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I'm thinking of setting up a Fedora UK community website [fedora-uk.org > >> - nothing there at the moment] > > > > Permission would be needed for fedora in a name it's a legal tm, > > check with advisory-boaerd list. > > > > where all the UK fedora users, developers > >> et al can get together, chat, exchange ideas use forums have their own > >> planet etc etc > >> > >> First of all, i don't want to duplicate peoples work so is there any > >> thing like this currently? Is there a template available for something > >> like drupal [or anything else] to keep it inline with all things fedora > >> [their wiki etc] > >> > > > > I was going to do something similar for Ireland, but I believe at the > > time there was a move on to try get country page up within the main > > fedora effort. Open to correction on this. > ^^ > Why something special? Why not being in the official Fedora Environment? I guess for the same reasons we have a German community sites as well: 1. Not all information can be published in the fpo wiki 2. Not all contributors want to become part of fpo and sign the CLA 3. Some folks want to be completely independent of fpo I agree with you Gerold that we should try to move as much content to fpo, but on the other hand I also understand everybody who is not able or willing to do that. > Regards > > Gerold Regards, Christoph From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 15 19:19:37 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:19:37 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> Message-ID: <200901152019.42612.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Donnerstag, 15. Januar 2009 10:58:34 schrieb Paul Mellors: > I'm thinking of setting up a Fedora UK community website > First of all, i don't want to duplicate peoples work so is there any > thing like this currently? > Have i posted this to the right mailing list? ;) Am i wasting my time? > Do i need anyones permission for starting things like this? Sorry for > all the questions i'm relatively new at this. I have learned that in countries with language barriers, the work sometime has to be done outside the Fedora infrastructure - till today i do not exactly know all the reasons. The French and LATAM Fedora Communities are great/ideal example?s how a very large community can live outside the Fedora Infrastructure, but work inside the Fedora Project. It is simple, if it is named after the FedoraProject it has to follow our Rules https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Conduct and the Trademark Guidelines - See http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1407 for this. The UK Community has no Language Barrier i would love to see the UK Community contributing all this great How-to?s or whatever they produce inside the Fedora-Infrastructure. Regards Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Thu Jan 15 19:33:28 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:03:28 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I am really elated to let you know that we have successfully automated the Fedora Freemedia handling process. So far the freemedia request handling has been manual. A form was filled, a mail sent to the mailing list, postal addresses copied from the mail and updated to the wiki. This was pretty complex, and time consuming too. Now the process will be as easy as this: 1. Now the requester will come here[1]. Fill in the data, and will continue to the next page. 2. On continuing the trac ticket will be already filled with the data, all the requester will have to do is to click the "Submit Ticket" button. 3. A ticket will be filed here[2]. 4. The freemedia contributor will accept the ticket he/she is willing to ship. 5. When shipped, he/she will close the ticket. If you have any comment/suggession, please let me know. Also PLEASE play around with the system, file tickets, close tickets, and do whatever you want and let me know any bugs that you may have noticed. Lastly, thanks to all, who helped doing this possible. Thanks and awaiting bug reports.. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/freemedia/FreeMedia-form.html [2] http://fedoraproject.org/freemedia/ -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From frankly3d at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 15 20:02:07 2009 From: frankly3d at fedoraproject.org (Frank Murphy) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:02:07 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <496F963F.7020104@fedoraproject.org> susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Hi, > > > If you have any comment/suggession, please let me know. Is it possible for some of the official endorsed spins to be included XFCE, or in Future Fedora-lite(LXDE?) For requesters not running the latest hardware. Frank From itamar at ispbrasil.com.br Thu Jan 15 20:14:37 2009 From: itamar at ispbrasil.com.br (Itamar Reis Peixoto) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:14:37 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: its not openning for me. http://fedoraproject.org/freemedia/ Forbidden You don't have permission to access /freemedia/ on this server. Apache/2.2.3 (Red Hat) Server at localhost Port 10010 On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:33 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Hi, > > I am really elated to let you know that we have successfully automated > the Fedora Freemedia handling process. > > So far the freemedia request handling has been manual. > A form was filled, a mail sent to the mailing list, postal addresses > copied from the mail and updated to the wiki. This was pretty complex, > and time consuming too. > > Now the process will be as easy as this: > > 1. Now the requester will come here[1]. Fill in the data, and will > continue to the next page. > > 2. On continuing the trac ticket will be already filled with the data, > all the requester will have to do is to click the "Submit Ticket" > button. > > 3. A ticket will be filed here[2]. > > 4. The freemedia contributor will accept the ticket he/she is willing to ship. > > 5. When shipped, he/she will close the ticket. > > > If you have any comment/suggession, please let me know. > Also PLEASE play around with the system, file tickets, close tickets, > and do whatever you want and let me know any bugs that you may have > noticed. > > Lastly, thanks to all, who helped doing this possible. > > Thanks and awaiting bug reports.. > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/freemedia/FreeMedia-form.html > [2] http://fedoraproject.org/freemedia/ > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit > ============================================= > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ------------ Itamar Reis Peixoto e-mail/msn: itamar at ispbrasil.com.br sip: itamar at ispbrasil.com.br skype: itamarjp icq: 81053601 +55 11 4063 5033 +55 34 3221 8599 From frankly3d at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 15 20:19:33 2009 From: frankly3d at fedoraproject.org (Frank Murphy) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:19:33 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <496F9A55.7040309@fedoraproject.org> Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: > its not openning for me. > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/freemedia/ > > > Forbidden > > You don't have permission to access /freemedia/ on this server. > Apache/2.2.3 (Red Hat) Server at localhost Port 10010 > Try https://fedorahosted.org/freemedia/ Frank From frankly3d at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 15 20:25:41 2009 From: frankly3d at fedoraproject.org (Frank Murphy) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:25:41 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <496F9BC5.4090306@fedoraproject.org> susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Hi, > 1: Can't find a way to "close" my test ticket. 2: Tickets, therefore details can be viewed "View Tiokets" without login. Data protection issues. 2: "Others" unless there is some way to a-z them?, you could spend the month searching. I would put an actual country box for other to fill in. 3: Can "embargoed" be auto deleted? Frank From sinkopas at gmail.com Thu Jan 15 20:51:03 2009 From: sinkopas at gmail.com (_oSkAr_ B) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:51:03 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, some bugs I`ve found: No login required to list the tickets I did a custom query and filtered it not to show my name "oscar" and "Oscar", and both times it showed it. When logged in, no possibility to own tickets. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nacross at gmail.com Thu Jan 15 20:52:56 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:52:56 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: <496F9BC5.4090306@fedoraproject.org> References: <496F9BC5.4090306@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > susmit shannigrahi wrote: >> Hi, >> > > 1: Can't find a way to "close" my test ticket. > 2: Tickets, therefore details can be viewed "View Tiokets" without > login. Data protection issues. > 2: "Others" unless there is some way to a-z them?, you could spend the > month searching. I would put an actual country box for other to fill in. > 3: Can "embargoed" be auto deleted? > > Frank > It is my first try of the trac system, never before used it for trcking any development or bug. I made my way, but to everyday used I thing it is need to tell them that after submitting is done. Because the page does not change significantly to newcomer. I made a ticked as a test drive. It is a big step forward in making all this simpler and faster. I was able to close my own ticket by choosing solved, and then I got the option of closing it. I may guess this is something about the ticket system, and therefore I think of knowing about it will be more that enough. I have to agree about the country "Other" to be rather generic. It will make search a difficult task, opening each ticket. Maybe one solution to open more countries programs, or should be also grouping some countries? -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 15 21:12:33 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:12:33 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <1232039012.3845.28.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <13302.217.162.12.42.1232018654.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <1232039012.3845.28.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <200901152212.48306.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Donnerstag, 15. Januar 2009 18:03:32 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > I guess for the same reasons we have a German community sites as well: > 1. Not all information can be published in the fpo wiki > 2. Not all contributors want to become part of fpo and sign the CLA > 3. Some folks want to be completely independent of fpo then it is not Fedora - in all three cases - right? -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Thu Jan 15 22:03:20 2009 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:03:20 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <200901152212.48306.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <13302.217.162.12.42.1232018654.squirrel@www.gbc.net> <1232039012.3845.28.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <200901152212.48306.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1232057000.3711.11.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Donnerstag, den 15.01.2009, 22:12 +0100 schrieb JoergSimon: > Am Donnerstag, 15. Januar 2009 18:03:32 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > > I guess for the same reasons we have a German community sites as well: > > 1. Not all information can be published in the fpo wiki > > 2. Not all contributors want to become part of fpo and sign the CLA > > 3. Some folks want to be completely independent of fpo > > then it is not Fedora - in all three cases - right? I don't think so, J?rg. There are certain HowTo's that can not be published at fpo due to judicial reasons. Nevertheless they were written _by_ Fedora users (or even by Fedora contributors) _for_ Fedora users. Would you say that this is not Fedora? Or all the people in the forums and on IRC who are doing a great amount of support. Are they not Fedora? As I said before: I agree we should try to move as much content over to fpo, but if someone is not willing/able to contribute there or if it's not possible to publish content there, there should also be an opportunity for these people to BE FEDORA. Regards, Christoph From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 15 22:27:20 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:27:20 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <1232057000.3711.11.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <200901152212.48306.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1232057000.3711.11.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <200901152327.26026.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Donnerstag, 15. Januar 2009 23:03:20 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > I don't think so, J?rg. > There are certain HowTo's that can not be published at fpo due to > judicial reasons. > Nevertheless they were written _by_ Fedora users (or > even by Fedora contributors) _for_ Fedora users. Would you say that this > is not Fedora? Or all the people in the forums and on IRC who are doing > a great amount of support. Are they not Fedora? For me personally not, if they violate our legal and ethical rules! > As I said before: I agree we should try to move as much content over to > fpo, but if someone is not willing/able to contribute there or if it's > not possible to publish content there, there should also be an > opportunity for these people to BE FEDORA. I can not follow your argumentation - if a program or any other contribution is not free or violates the guidelines it can not be in Fedora and can not named Fedora! Why People like ChitleshGoorah and many others fight to free Software from Licences to become part of FEL or other Fedora Spins - if i understand you right, you think, it is ok to violate our guidelines and distribute them in another way and say it?s just a community thing and we give it the Fedora Brand nevertheless ? 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URL: From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 15 22:49:21 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:49:21 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Message-ID: <200901152349.21251.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear Ambassadors, let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Awagner83 from Charlotte, NC, USA https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Alexh from United Kingdom https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Biertie from Kruishoutem,Belgium https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Joshdills from Nevada Area - Reno, USA https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ulissis from Crici?ma, Brazil Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Thu Jan 15 22:53:34 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:53:34 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> Message-ID: <50baabb30901151453o32097c21hf3f55189e5cd750c@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Paul Mellors wrote: > > Comments would be welcome, bearing in mind it's only an idea at this stage. Hello Paul, Thank you for your willingness to contribute to the Fedora Project. I share both Gerold's and Joerg's views concerning language barriers. Personally, I am not in favour of breaking down communities into sub communities. These type of projects tend to lose focus in the long term, something I don't like. I believe "We" are Fedora ambassadors to consolidate the strength of the community But first let's consider how much effort you are will to add to get the infrastructure running and will there be someone's who will still maintain it let's say in 3 years ? Here I would rather think in terms of "human resources". The number of time and effort spent to get a new infrastructure for an "English" speaking community would be better used to improve the existing "English" speaking communities. There are already a lot of work (in terms of marketing) to be completed before F-11 Preview release, I would advise to focus on them. However one thing that is lacking currently is some native english fedora ambassadors to review F-11 news articles written by non-english native fedora ambassadors. That would benefit the image of Fedora during the F-11 release. @Christopher about non-fedora related posting, I would suggest rpmfusion.org. The infrastructure is there already ! Kind regards, Chitlesh From n1ghtcr4wler at gmail.com Thu Jan 15 22:58:26 2009 From: n1ghtcr4wler at gmail.com (Ricardo Ichizo) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:58:26 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome In-Reply-To: <200901152349.21251.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200901152349.21251.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <9ae7d5480901151458q6bf75820s21f6a80a1fbb22f5@mail.gmail.com> 2009/1/15 JoergSimon : > Dear Ambassadors, > > let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Awagner83 from Charlotte, NC, USA > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Alexh from United Kingdom > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Biertie from Kruishoutem,Belgium > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Joshdills from Nevada Area - Reno, USA > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ulissis from Crici?ma, Brazil > > Regards Joerg > p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List > -- > Joerg (kital) Simon > jsimon at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon > http://kitall.blogspot.com > Key Fingerprint: > 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 > Welcome Ambassadors !!! -- Ricardo Ichizo From ecardinali at gmail.com Thu Jan 15 23:02:08 2009 From: ecardinali at gmail.com (Ezequiel Cardinali) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:02:08 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome In-Reply-To: <9ae7d5480901151458q6bf75820s21f6a80a1fbb22f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <200901152349.21251.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <9ae7d5480901151458q6bf75820s21f6a80a1fbb22f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Welcome!! -- ======================================= Ezequiel M. Cardinali - Fedora Ambassador --------------------------------------------------------------- * http://proyectofedora.org/argentina * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ezq --------------------------------------------------------------- 8DCB DEAE DF60 0C08 43D6 CF6B B29F C9E1 FCF0 68FD ======================================= From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Thu Jan 15 23:03:18 2009 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:03:18 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <200901152327.26026.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <200901152212.48306.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1232057000.3711.11.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <200901152327.26026.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1232060598.3711.33.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Donnerstag, den 15.01.2009, 23:27 +0100 schrieb JoergSimon: > Am Donnerstag, 15. Januar 2009 23:03:20 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > > I don't think so, J?rg. > > There are certain HowTo's that can not be published at fpo due to > > judicial reasons. > > Nevertheless they were written _by_ Fedora users (or > > even by Fedora contributors) _for_ Fedora users. Would you say that this > > is not Fedora? Or all the people in the forums and on IRC who are doing > > a great amount of support. Are they not Fedora? > > For me personally not, if they violate our legal and ethical rules! And what if they do not violate our guidelines? Are only people who signed the CLA allowed to contribute to Fedora? To make this clear: I wasn't talking about our guidelines but about American law. Remember, fpo is hosted in the US. > > As I said before: I agree we should try to move as much content over to > > fpo, but if someone is not willing/able to contribute there or if it's > > not possible to publish content there, there should also be an > > opportunity for these people to BE FEDORA. > > I can not follow your argumentation - if a program or any other contribution > is not free or violates the guidelines it can not be in Fedora and can not > named Fedora! Why People like ChitleshGoorah and many others fight to free > Software from Licences to become part of FEL or other Fedora Spins - if i > understand you right, you think, it is ok to violate our guidelines and > distribute them in another way and say it?s just a community thing and we > give it the Fedora Brand nevertheless ? No, you are not understanding me right. Let me give you two examples: I'm pretty sure we are not going to publish a howto about using Skype or playing music in MP3 format. Not because we are not allowed to, but because we don't want to encourage people to use proprietary software or standards but FOSS and open formats like ogg instead. Nevertheless there are people who want/need to do this and they are looking for information we cannot provide at fpo. Or think about a howto about playing encrypted DVDs on Fedora. We are not allowed to publish this information due to legal restrictions that have absolutely nothing to do with our code of conduct. Nevertheless a lot of people from the Fedora community want this information and there are people from the community that are able to provide it. But not at fpo. I hope now you understand what I was thinking of and why I still think there need to be places besides fpo where people from the Fedora community can participate. > CU Joerg > Regards, Christoph From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 15 23:44:58 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:44:58 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <1232060598.3711.33.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <200901152327.26026.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1232060598.3711.33.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <200901160045.05135.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Freitag, 16. Januar 2009 00:03:18 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > I'm pretty sure we are not going to publish a howto about using Skype or > playing music in MP3 format. Nevertheless there > are people who want/need to do this and they are looking for information > we cannot provide at fpo. > Or think about a howto about playing encrypted DVDs on Fedora. We are > not allowed to publish this information due to legal restrictions that > have absolutely nothing to do with our code of conduct. Nevertheless a > lot of people from the Fedora community want this information and there > are people from the community that are able to provide it. But not at > fpo. > I hope now you understand what I was thinking of and why I still think > there need to be places besides fpo where people from the Fedora > community can participate. If you can not have it on FedoraProject for any reason, give it another name. CU Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Fri Jan 16 01:54:48 2009 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:54:48 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <200901160045.05135.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <200901152327.26026.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1232060598.3711.33.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <200901160045.05135.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1232070888.3711.125.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Freitag, den 16.01.2009, 00:44 +0100 schrieb JoergSimon: > Am Freitag, 16. Januar 2009 00:03:18 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > > I'm pretty sure we are not going to publish a howto about using Skype or > > playing music in MP3 format. Nevertheless there > > are people who want/need to do this and they are looking for information > > we cannot provide at fpo. > > Or think about a howto about playing encrypted DVDs on Fedora. We are > > not allowed to publish this information due to legal restrictions that > > have absolutely nothing to do with our code of conduct. Nevertheless a > > lot of people from the Fedora community want this information and there > > are people from the community that are able to provide it. But not at > > fpo. > > I hope now you understand what I was thinking of and why I still think > > there need to be places besides fpo where people from the Fedora > > community can participate. > > If you can not have it on FedoraProject for any reason, give it another name. Site note: How do you expect people to find that info if you are not allowed to use the name or term "Fedora"? What about people, who don't want to become Fedora Project contributors, because the current process is to complicated for them? Image you are a passionate Fedora user and you have written a howto for something, that could be published at fpo, at least from the legal point of view. For example I have a howto about using xmltv together with tvtime. But wait: We don't even have xmltv in our package collection, so why would we want to have a howto for it then? ATM xmltv is only available from ATrpms, so is the official fpo documentation going to recommend using the AT repo? Even if all components are available in our repos, the next question is: Where at fpo should I publish my howto? Even I as a long time contributor can not answer that question. Please take a look at one of the typical howtos from fedorawiki.de and tell me where at fedoraproject.org you would put them . A new contributor has no idea where to start, so he would most likely look at http://fedoraproject.org/join-fedora and decide that "content writer" fits best. But wait: The page says that you should know (or at least be willing to learn) DocBook and XML. The docs are hosted in cvs, so you also have to learn to use CVS before you can actually start to contribute. You have to subscribe to several mailing lists in order to coordinate your efforts with others. But you don't want to lean all that stuff and you don't want to read a bunch of mails, you just want to publish your howto, because you think it is useful. And you want to publish it now and not by the release of F11. I'm afraid that at this point we already lost 9 out of 10 potential contributors and their knowledge. J?rg, you are responsible of the ambassadors membership service, so you should know what I'm talking about. What was the percentage of people who complete all steps from the ambassador's 'Join' document? We have to face the fact that we currently have no offer for these people. We have to accept the fact that there are people who don't want to become official members of the Fedora Project, ether because they don't have enough time or just because they don't want to be dependent on the project itself. We have to be thankful that the Fedora community is much larger than the group of FAS account holders. All these people must be enabled to contribute without the need to learn to much technical stuff and without all the bureaucracy. They must be able to contribute on a low level, without all the barriers we (need to!) have at fpo. This is why I think that there need to be community sites surrounding the actual Fedora project. These sites are the places where our new Fedora contributors are really born long time before we might even notice them. I can give you a couple of names from people who first contributed to a community site before they joined Fedora (I am one of them). Many of them have become real leaders in packaging, SIGs etc. If only one out of ten people from a community site later joins Fedora we gain a lot, but if we scare off nine out of ten people with to many duties ans to much officialism we loose much, much more. > > CU Joerg Regards, Christoph From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 02:08:28 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:38:28 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: <496F9BC5.4090306@fedoraproject.org> References: <496F9BC5.4090306@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Hi Frank, > 1: Can't find a way to "close" my test ticket. Login with your FAS credentials, Then at the bottom you will find "Action" field, To close a ticket, you need to select "resolve as:" and then submit. I tested it with a general account, and it works for me. > 2: Tickets, therefore details can be viewed "View Tiokets" without > login. Data protection issues. This is the thing we have to look into. > 2: "Others" unless there is some way to a-z them?, you could spend the > month searching. I would put an actual country box for other to fill in. I made this according to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia I have no problem putting in a text box though. > 3: Can "embargoed" be auto deleted? No, a ticket is hardly deleted. It is closed. When a ticket is closed, it will not appear to the lists. Thanks a lot for your feedback. Let me know if there are more issues. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 02:15:40 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:45:40 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2009/1/16 _oSkAr_ B : > Hi, some bugs I`ve found: > > No login required to list the tickets > I did a custom query and filtered it not to show my name "oscar" and > "Oscar", and both times it showed it. We generally don't need the custom query, However, as your name appears only on the summary field, a custom query of "summary" "does not contain" "Oscar" will do what you want to do. :) > When logged in, no possibility to own tickets. Can you please cross check this, it is working I guess, If you scroll down the ticket, you will find an "Action" field which contains "accept ticket" "resolve as" etc.. There you can accept the ticket to own it. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 03:42:45 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:12:45 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: <496F9BC5.4090306@fedoraproject.org> References: <496F9BC5.4090306@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: > 2: "Others" unless there is some way to a-z them?, you could spend the > month searching. I would put an actual country box for other to fill in. I think this needs some discussion. :) I have done this solely for making the requests Uniform and generate the reports from it. For example, for generating pending requests from India I use something like, select all requests where country="India". Now if someone types the country as india or misspells it, it will be omitted from the reports. This is the only reason of drop down list. Do we ship much media to the counties outside the list? What is the estimated number of "Trans-country" shipping and from where to where? Thanks for your help. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From siddharth at techbugs.org Fri Jan 16 03:56:12 2009 From: siddharth at techbugs.org (siddharth at techbugs.org) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:26:12 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <496F9BC5.4090306@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On 1/16/09, susmit shannigrahi wrote: >> 2: "Others" unless there is some way to a-z them?, you could spend the >> month searching. I would put an actual country box for other to fill in. > > > I think this needs some discussion. :) > > I have done this solely for making the requests Uniform and generate > the reports from it. > > For example, for generating pending requests from India I use something > like, > > select all requests where country="India". > > Now if someone types the country as india or misspells it, it will be > omitted from the reports. This is the only reason of drop down list. > > Do we ship much media to the counties outside the list? > What is the estimated number of "Trans-country" shipping and from > where to where? > > Thanks for your help. > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit > ============================================= > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Nice work Susmit, reading through, you have already got some feedback... so when we are putting it up and see in live.. that will give lot more improvement possibilities. Regards Siddharth From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 04:01:15 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:31:15 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <496F9BC5.4090306@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: > Nice work Susmit, > reading through, you have already got some feedback... so when we are > putting it up and see in live.. that will give lot more improvement > possibilities. It is live already. :) When we adopt it for regular handling of media is to decide. But I guess, that can be done only after extensive testing. So please test the system. :) -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 04:11:26 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:41:26 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <496F9BC5.4090306@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <497008EE.3070409@gmail.com> On 01/16/2009 09:31 AM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > When we adopt it for regular handling of media is to decide. > But I guess, that can be done only after extensive testing. > So please test the system. :) Is there a page on the wiki which lists out a proposed potential date for GoLive and prefacing that with a discussion with all the stakeholders/groups in the GoLive ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 04:16:45 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:46:45 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: <497008EE.3070409@gmail.com> References: <496F9BC5.4090306@fedoraproject.org> <497008EE.3070409@gmail.com> Message-ID: > >> When we adopt it for regular handling of media is to decide. >> But I guess, that can be done only after extensive testing. >> So please test the system. :) > > Is there a page on the wiki which lists out a proposed potential date for > GoLive and prefacing that with a discussion with all the stakeholders/groups > in the GoLive ? Not yet, but thanks for the idea. :) I shall do it after testing it for another couple of days. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 04:29:36 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:59:36 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <496F9BC5.4090306@fedoraproject.org> <497008EE.3070409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49700D30.5020407@gmail.com> On 01/16/2009 09:46 AM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Not yet, but thanks for the idea. :) > I shall do it after testing it for another couple of days. And, since I did not mention this previously, thanks a lot for the hard work you put in making this happen. r0ck on. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 04:31:45 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:01:45 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: <49700D30.5020407@gmail.com> References: <496F9BC5.4090306@fedoraproject.org> <497008EE.3070409@gmail.com> <49700D30.5020407@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:59 AM, "Sankarshan (????????)" wrote: > On 01/16/2009 09:46 AM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > >> Not yet, but thanks for the idea. :) >> I shall do it after testing it for another couple of days. Done..it is always better to prepone things :) Friends, feel free to put your suggessions at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/GoLive We shall also continue this thread. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From nacross at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 05:41:10 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:41:10 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <496F9BC5.4090306@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:42 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Do we ship much media to the counties outside the list? > What is the estimated number of "Trans-country" shipping and from > where to where? > I just join the free media group. I have been sending media on december 2008 and January 2009. I am located at Nicaragua and I have been sending media to Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Honduras, Uruguay and Bolivia. I intend to send media to Belize, El Salvador and Panama if there are request. I am trying to help LATAM where there are no ambassador signed up. I can settle for having Central America on the pull down menu as this covers the closest countries to Nicaragua. I really will like to avoid having to open each ticket to see which tickets filed under "others" are related to a my country. It is a great work. Thanks for this effort ! -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From slasherzee at yahoo.com Fri Jan 16 06:47:20 2009 From: slasherzee at yahoo.com (Doug Berry) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:47:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Picture book.... Message-ID: <459073.13932.qm@web63508.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hey Community, Sorry I did not get back sooner. My friend at LSI called my cell phone -- I was waiting for an email. Did not check my messages until today. The gist of what she said is that we can indeed do a hard cover full color book, but we would have to do so using off-set printing. And she could not give a cost estimate, because the cost would depend on how much color and the degree of difficulty for the printer in setting up the book. Off-set would probably create a much better looking book, as far as image quality goes. It is the industry standard for printing high quality books. But using off-set, each color page would require that four separate plates would have to be made to produce a color image. Blue, red, yellow, and black is the way they used to describe it, but now it is CMYK (short for cyan, magenta, yellow, and key (black) We could, however, use a mixture of b&w and color pages. Then we would pay less for the b&w pages that don't have color on them. Still, since we are not driven to make a huge profit off of each book, we could adjust the book price to allow for the additional printing costs. -- w Douglas Berry -- slasherzee at fedoraproject.org From frankly3d at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 16 07:53:29 2009 From: frankly3d at fedoraproject.org (Frank Murphy) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:53:29 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <496F9BC5.4090306@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <49703CF9.1070108@fedoraproject.org> Neville A. Cross wrote: > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:42 PM, susmit shannigrahi > I am trying to help LATAM where there are no ambassador signed up. > I can settle for having Central America on the pull down menu as this > covers the closest countries to Nicaragua. Yes, I think this could work. Maybe add Africa Asia Central America. Europe South America. What I will do if any think it suitable? , take a couple of days (schoolwork\life) and go trough the request(s) since F9 launch. and give a breakdown. By country\Continent. Frank From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 07:56:01 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:26:01 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: <49703CF9.1070108@fedoraproject.org> References: <496F9BC5.4090306@fedoraproject.org> <49703CF9.1070108@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > Neville A. Cross wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:42 PM, susmit shannigrahi > >> I am trying to help LATAM where there are no ambassador signed up. >> I can settle for having Central America on the pull down menu as this >> covers the closest countries to Nicaragua. > > > Yes, I think this could work. > Maybe add > Africa > Asia > Central America. > Europe > South America. This can be easily done. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 16 07:57:34 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:57:34 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <1232070888.3711.125.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <200901160045.05135.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1232070888.3711.125.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <200901160857.38569.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Thanks Christoph - your points and moral views are now known to me. Personally i do not agree with them. Now lets get back to the topic. cu -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From fhornain at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 10:07:12 2009 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:07:12 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora/FOSDEM'09 Press kit Message-ID: <3161376e0901160207q46550d05v4ebec4b6af46b35@mail.gmail.com> Dear *, This is the press kit for the FOSDEM'09 -> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2009#Press_Kit Best Regards Frederic -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Lars -- Lars Delhage RHC{E,X,A,SS} CL{P,E}{9,10} CNI LPIC-2.tel: +46 8 458 78 10 Nohup AB, Stortorget 1, 111 29 Stockholm mob: +46 70 781 60 69 GPG ID: 569492FE url :http://www.nohup.se From fhornain at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 11:00:19 2009 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:00:19 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora/FOSDEM'09 Press kit In-Reply-To: <1b2231930901160254x5d8f9867ve261b0b552f4dad9@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0901160207q46550d05v4ebec4b6af46b35@mail.gmail.com> <49706537.4060106@fedoraproject.org> <1b2231930901160254x5d8f9867ve261b0b552f4dad9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0901160300m3ed340efj555bb7e7ea99070a@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for your comments ! Best Regads Frederic On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:54 AM, wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:45, Sandro red Mathys > wrote: > > Hi > > > > Great work :) I didn't read it completely, but two things that look > strange: > > Yes, great work :) > > > 1) page 7 reads "Francesco Crippa - TBD"...how can his topic be TBD when > > the complete schedule is listed above? > > > > 2) page 15 has a typo (IMHO): AEMEA instead od EMEA > > > > -- red > > > > One other thing, the dates are wrong, it says Feb 23-24 2008, which I > guess is left from last years FOSDEM. > > Cheers, > > Lars > > -- > Lars Delhage RHC{E,X,A,SS} CL{P,E}{9,10} CNI LPIC-2.tel: +46 8 458 78 10 > Nohup AB, Stortorget 1, 111 29 Stockholm mob: +46 70 781 60 69 > GPG ID: 569492FE url :http://www.nohup.se > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Thanks for your comments ! > > Best Regads > Frederic > > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:54 AM, wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:45, Sandro red Mathys >> wrote: >> > Hi >> > >> > Great work :) I didn't read it completely, but two things that look >> strange: >> >> Yes, great work :) >> >> > 1) page 7 reads "Francesco Crippa - TBD"...how can his topic be TBD when >> > the complete schedule is listed above? >> > >> > 2) page 15 has a typo (IMHO): AEMEA instead od EMEA >> > >> > -- red >> > >> >> One other thing, the dates are wrong, it says Feb 23-24 2008, which I >> guess is left from last years FOSDEM. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Lars >> >> -- >> Lars Delhage RHC{E,X,A,SS} CL{P,E}{9,10} CNI LPIC-2.tel: +46 8 458 78 10 >> Nohup AB, Stortorget 1, 111 29 Stockholm mob: +46 70 781 60 69 >> GPG ID: 569492FE url :http://www.nohup.se >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Olpc mailing list > olpc-open at laptop.org > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Fri Jan 16 12:04:48 2009 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:04:48 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <200901160857.38569.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <200901160045.05135.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1232070888.3711.125.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <200901160857.38569.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1232107488.3680.30.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Freitag, den 16.01.2009, 08:57 +0100 schrieb JoergSimon: > Thanks Christoph - your points and moral views are now known to me. > Personally > i do not agree with them. Now lets get back to the topic. > 1. This has nothing to do with moral at all. 2. This _is_ on topic. Gerold asked why there is a need for a UK community website and why the content could not be published at fpo. And I answered that question. Unfortunately you did not answer my questions at all, for example: What do you think would be the proper place for a typical howto from the German Fedorawiki if it was moved to the fpo website? Is there a workflow that enables people to publish their content? People who demand everything should be published at the official webpage first have to act their part and enable people to do it. I'm open for constructive suggestions here. Regards, Christoph From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Jan 16 12:29:38 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:29:38 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > I am really elated to let you know that we have successfully automated > the Fedora Freemedia handling process. This is excellent news, Susmit. Getting FreeMedia automated is an important step in growing that piece of Fedora, and I thank you very much for your work in this area. Soon (in the next month or two I hope) I am going to start talking to you and other folks who are involved in FreeMedia to see what we can do to make it an even bigger part of Fedora, and increase the throughput (and potentially budget) that we give to this important piece of our community. If you (or anyone) has thoughts, please share them. Thanks again, Max From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Jan 16 12:31:20 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:31:20 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <1232070888.3711.125.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <200901152327.26026.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1232060598.3711.33.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <200901160045.05135.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1232070888.3711.125.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Christoph Wickert wrote: > This is why I think that there need to be community sites surrounding > the actual Fedora project. This is part of the role that (among others) Fedora Forum and Fedora Solved play, is it not? They provide a valuable service to our larger community. ======== That said, it seems to me that it is easier for everyone if *as much as is possible and permitted* lives within fp.o somewhere -- that to me feels like the "upstream whenever you can" mindset that we apply to our code. --Max From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 16 12:34:26 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:34:26 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <1232107488.3680.30.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <200901160857.38569.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1232107488.3680.30.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <200901161334.26884.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Freitag, 16. Januar 2009 13:04:48 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > 1. This has nothing to do with moral at all. > 2. This _is_ on topic. Gerold asked why there is a need for a UK > community website and why the content could not be published at fpo. > People who demand everything should be published at the official webpage > first have to act their part and enable people to do it. I'm open for > constructive suggestions here. "Everything"? Have i say?d that? - and Forbidden items as well?:) We started mentoring to help new Ambassadors to differ wrong from right. Everyone has the Freedom to build what he want from Fedora - and everyone is free to support this - but this is a non-fedora topic. And "could not be published at fpo" that say?s it all. Please stop to complicate our life with twisting facts. We talk about an Ambassador who is willing to spend time on Fedora and need advice - should he put this effort in another fedoraforum.org with regional character - or should he contribute to Fedora directly and build a regional FedoraCommunity inside the FedoraInfrastructure? He will have all support todo it! CU Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 16 12:48:07 2009 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:48:07 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <200901161334.26884.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <200901160857.38569.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1232107488.3680.30.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <200901161334.26884.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <6186.VwBUX15WXiw=.1232110087.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> > Am Freitag, 16. Januar 2009 13:04:48 schrieb Christoph Wickert: >> 1. This has nothing to do with moral at all. >> 2. This _is_ on topic. Gerold asked why there is a need for a UK >> community website and why the content could not be published at fpo. >> People who demand everything should be published at the official webpage >> first have to act their part and enable people to do it. I'm open for >> constructive suggestions here. > > "Everything"? Have i say?d that? - and Forbidden items as well?:) We > started > mentoring to help new Ambassadors to differ wrong from right. Everyone has > the Freedom to build what he want from Fedora - and everyone is free to > support this - but this is a non-fedora topic. > And "could not be published at fpo" that say?s it all. No, that doesn't say anything at all. As Christoph said, the fp.o is hosted in the US, that says much more. For example, libdvdcss is _not_ illegal anymore in France. This means that we can read encrypted DVDs in France and explain how to do that. Is libdvdcss legal in the US ? I guess not. This means that no howto can be published on fp.o on this topic. But french Fedora users are _allowed_ to know how to do this. What's the only solution in this case ? Yes, publishing a howto on a local community site. Let's take another example. A documentation published on fp.o must be in english, then translated to several languages, depending on the voluntary efforts in each of these languages. Here in France, we have _a lot_ of people who are willing to contribute, but don't speak english at all. If documentation must be published on fp.o, then they have no way to contribute. Of course, we are so many people right now that we can totally afford losing them :) Also, think about a user, who can't speak english. When he has a problem with Fedora, he'll want to ask his question on a forum, _in his own language_. We're not talking about documentation here, but yet, the need for a local community site is obvious. Finally, you know how _users_ are: as soon as they learn something new, they will write it on their blog. If you say that what is not on fp.o can't be named "Fedora", should we prevent our users to write something on their blogs ? Of course not ! We must encourage them to go on ! However, gathering their articles on a local community site is an excellent first step. You will note that I never said I didn't want to have the maximum on fp.o, in fact, I think all documentation from the local community sites should be submitted (a bit like we sumbit packages) for inclusion in fp.o. Of course, having brazilian people losing their time writing from scratch articles that german people wrote years ago (countries are only examples, they do not mean anything about my feeling for both local communities). But those local community sites nevertheless remain a necessary first step for a lot of contributors, as well as a necessary last step for others. Regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 16 12:59:23 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:59:23 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <6186.VwBUX15WXiw=.1232110087.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <200901161334.26884.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <6186.VwBUX15WXiw=.1232110087.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: <200901161359.30480.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Freitag, 16. Januar 2009 13:48:07 schrieb Mathieu Bridon (bochecha): > > And "could not be published at fpo" that say?s it all. > No, that doesn't say anything at all. > As Christoph said, the fp.o is hosted in the US, that says much more. > For example, libdvdcss is _not_ illegal anymore in France. This means that > we can read encrypted DVDs in France and explain how to do that. > Is libdvdcss legal in the US ? I guess not. This means that no howto can > be published on fp.o on this topic. > But french Fedora users are _allowed_ to know how to do this. > What's the only solution in this case ? Yes, publishing a howto on a local > community site. i have considered this facts in https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-January/msg00151.html But once again my question, should a new native english speaking Ambassador put his effort in just another fedoraforum.org? -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 16 13:16:27 2009 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:16:27 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <200901161359.30480.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <200901161334.26884.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <6186.VwBUX15WXiw=.1232110087.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <200901161359.30480.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <58796.VwBUX15WXiw=.1232111787.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> > Am Freitag, 16. Januar 2009 13:48:07 schrieb Mathieu Bridon (bochecha): >> > And "could not be published at fpo" that say?s it all. >> No, that doesn't say anything at all. >> As Christoph said, the fp.o is hosted in the US, that says much more. For example, libdvdcss is _not_ illegal anymore in France. This means that >> we can read encrypted DVDs in France and explain how to do that. Is libdvdcss legal in the US ? I guess not. This means that no howto can >> be published on fp.o on this topic. >> But french Fedora users are _allowed_ to know how to do this. >> What's the only solution in this case ? Yes, publishing a howto on a local >> community site. > > i have considered this facts in > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-January/msg00151.html > > But once again my question, should a new native english speaking Ambassador > put his effort in just another fedoraforum.org? Yes, if it can help people to get involved. Local community websites are more than a simple forum in a defined language ;) Something you do not seem to consider is that it is much easier to integrate a local, small group, which can be compared to a band of friends or even a family, than a huge international project. In the first one, you can easily be integrated, and feel part of it, as well as give your opinion, help doing small things at your level, etc... In the second one, you feel easily overwhelmed by all those emails, by the fact that all those people speaking seem to be in there for a very long time, that they seem to be more "competent", which will make you hesitate to say something and participate. Now, here is my question, if he _wants to_ put his efforts in this, why would we prevent him to do so ? That's yet another barrier, preventing someone to contribute at his own level. I thought one of the goals of Fedora (and one of yours as the "become an Ambassador" process leader / simplifier / improver / ) was the exact opposite... Regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin From fedora at alexhudson.com Fri Jan 16 13:19:54 2009 From: fedora at alexhudson.com (Alex Hudson) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:19:54 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <6186.VwBUX15WXiw=.1232110087.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <200901160857.38569.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1232107488.3680.30.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <200901161334.26884.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <6186.VwBUX15WXiw=.1232110087.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: <4970897A.4000402@alexhudson.com> Hi, (I'm a new ambassador - hope people don't mind me poking my nose in, but I'm in the UK :) Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: > As Christoph said, the fp.o is hosted in the US, that says much more. > For example, libdvdcss is _not_ illegal anymore in France. This means that > we can read encrypted DVDs in France and explain how to do that. > I was under the impression that with DAVDSI/EUCD, libdvdcss is still verboten in Europe, but I suppose that is slightly beside the point. Global law is never going to be consistent, so there may be things which are free in some places which are not free in others. But I think actual legal advice would be needed - if information is associated with Fedora, I'm not sure sure why it would matter where it would be hosted personally. I think this is different from using the term "Fedora" colloquially, too. The other issue Christoph raised seemed to be about lowering the barriers of access to contribute - and I think that's a very good point. There was some recent discussion on fedora-devel about docs.fp.o moving to a CMS of some sort. It strikes me that kind of access is much better than docbook/et al and would encourage more contributions. I think it's important to separate the legal/"what is free" question from the question of contribution, though - dividing users based on their locality isn't good (and doesn't quite match their language preference either!), and I'm not totally sure that it would work legally in terms of allowing the ability to talk about/promote software that the main project can't use. Thanks, Alex. From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 16 13:38:43 2009 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:38:43 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <4970897A.4000402@alexhudson.com> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <200901160857.38569.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1232107488.3680.30.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <200901161334.26884.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <6186.VwBUX15WXiw=.1232110087.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <4970897A.4000402@alexhudson.com> Message-ID: <20776.VwBUX15WXiw=.1232113123.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> > Hi, > > (I'm a new ambassador - hope people don't mind me poking my nose in, but > I'm in the UK :) > > Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: >> As Christoph said, the fp.o is hosted in the US, that says much more. >> For example, libdvdcss is _not_ illegal anymore in France. This means >> that >> we can read encrypted DVDs in France and explain how to do that. >> > > I was under the impression that with DAVDSI/EUCD, libdvdcss is still > verboten in Europe, but I suppose that is slightly beside the point. Well, the "Conseil d'?tat" stated in July 2008 that libdvdcss is legal in France, given the fact that it ensures interoperability (it is even necessary for interoperability on Linux). > I think it's important to separate the legal/"what is free" question > from the question of contribution Yes it is, those two aspects are not related. But when it comes to local community websites, those are two (different) arguments in favour. > dividing users based on > their locality isn't good (and doesn't quite match their language > preference either!) > and I'm not totally sure that it would work legally > in terms of allowing the ability to talk about/promote software that the > main project can't use. Well, legally, the French law (if we take again the exemple of the libdvdcss) doesn't prevent us to promote its use. Which means that an interdiction to do so can only come from the Fedora Project itself. Of course, the Fedora Project can't promote it, but does it want to prevent a local community to promote it, preventing its users to read DVDs they legally bought and can legally watch ? Also, a local community / NPO can be a "grassroots", and not be affiliated to the Project in itself. This solves the problem of promoting stuff the Project can't use, as we can then speak as a "local community", not as "representatives of the Project". I personnally always use this double speach when I have to both promote free and open standards (the view of the Fedora Project representatives) to someone, as well as allow him to do stuff he needs to (the view of the user / community guy). However, the Project representative always has the last word by explaining the implications of going on with non free or closed software and standards. I have no problem with this slight schyzophrenia, and as both sides are needed but only one can be provided by the Fedora Project, local community websites are definitely a good idea. Regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin From tymensk at yahoo.com Fri Jan 16 14:09:58 2009 From: tymensk at yahoo.com (Samuel Teyemensah) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 06:09:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ambassadors] fedora on school computers Message-ID: <170310.61506.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com> hi, everybody. I have been working on getting fedora installed on some of the computers in school where I am undergoing my internship. however, the problem is that school is running a windows based system and I am having problem connecting the new fedora computers to this network. can some take me through the steps of connecting a fedora machine to a windows base network. the NIC was successfully recognised by fedora. ? tymensk, ghana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From inode0 at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 14:21:01 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:21:01 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > Soon (in the next month or two I hope) I am going to start talking to you > and other folks who are involved in FreeMedia to see what we can do to make > it an even bigger part of Fedora, and increase the throughput (and > potentially budget) that we give to this important piece of our community. > > If you (or anyone) has thoughts, please share them. This is very nice indeed. One question I raised during a board townhall in the past was whether there was any objection to offering those requesting freemedia unity re-spins (since this would help alleviate download problems for these users when trying to get a large number of updated packages immediately after installation). There seemed to be no objection from the board as long as the options were made clear to those making the requests. Since it would not be difficult to plug more media choices into this automated system I'd like get some feedback from other FreeMedia folks about whether we should offer re-spins as an option in the program? What part of FreeMedia would benefit from budget? What FreeMedia really needs is a lot more ambassadors and other community members willing to make a very small contribution in time and money each month to help a few others get media. We simply need more people to participate, it isn't glamorous, processing the mail is tedious, but it is an easy and important way we can each help a handful (or two or as many as you like) of people out each month. John From antonio.montagnani at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 14:36:21 2009 From: antonio.montagnani at gmail.com (Antonio M) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:36:21 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] fedora on school computers In-Reply-To: <170310.61506.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <170310.61506.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4c37b6af0901160636h4cce5fc0tdf3a253845f38df4@mail.gmail.com> 2009/1/16 Samuel Teyemensah : > hi, everybody. I have been working on getting fedora installed on some of > the computers in school where I am undergoing my internship. however, the > problem is that school is running a windows based system and I am having > problem connecting the new fedora computers to this network. can some take > me through the steps of connecting a fedora machine to a windows base > network. the NIC was successfully recognised by fedora. > > tymensk, ghana > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > What do you want to do exactly?? - Internet sharing - printer sharing - file sharing - firewalling First of all you must be sure that the Fedora computers are on same network/subnetwork of the other computers.Have you already done this step??? If so did you succeed in pinging any Windows computer on the network??? Rgds -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 16 15:02:35 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:02:35 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <58796.VwBUX15WXiw=.1232111787.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <200901161359.30480.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <58796.VwBUX15WXiw=.1232111787.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: <200901161602.39852.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Freitag, 16. Januar 2009 14:16:27 schrieb Mathieu Bridon (bochecha): > Yes, if it can help people to get involved. Local community websites are > more than a simple forum in a defined language ;) > Now, here is my question, if he _wants to_ put his efforts in this, why > would we prevent him to do so ? > That's yet another barrier, preventing someone to contribute at his own > level. I thought one of the goals of Fedora was the exact opposite... Thanks Mathieu for giving your opinion. As i said in my first mail, the french community is an ideal example how this can work. Fedora is this Group of Friends for me, you have mentioned. FedoraProject can offer certain subprojects and tools and we have fedorahosted.org to enable everyone to start his own new project inside Fedora. Paul - when you feel it is good for the FedoraProject to start a local community for the reasons Mathieu and Christoph pointed out, you should consider https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Conduct http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/TrademarkGuidelines and you are always free to ask the trademark owner for permission to start your own Project named after Fedora. CU -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From tymensk at yahoo.com Fri Jan 16 15:06:01 2009 From: tymensk at yahoo.com (Samuel Teyemensah) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:06:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Ambassadors] (no subject) Message-ID: <977680.29576.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Yes I would like internet sharing and file sharing. However printer sharing and firewalling would also be needed in the near future. Yes I have done that but could not ping the other computers. tymensk, Ghana ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From antonio.montagnani at alice.it Fri Jan 16 15:11:32 2009 From: antonio.montagnani at alice.it (antonio montagnani) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:11:32 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <977680.29576.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <977680.29576.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4970A3A4.7050307@alice.it> Samuel Teyemensah wrote / ha scritto on /il 16/01/2009 16:06: > Yes I would like internet sharing and file sharing. However printer > sharing and firewalling would also be needed in the near future. > Yes I have done that but could not ping the other computers. > tymensk, Ghana > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > how do you set the IP address of a Fedora computer (fixed or by DHCP from router??) Can you post the output of the command ifconfig ??? -- Antonio Montagnani Skype : antoniomontag From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 16 15:22:46 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:22:46 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <59958.VwBUX15WXiw=.1232118812.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <200901161602.39852.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <59958.VwBUX15WXiw=.1232118812.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> Message-ID: <200901161622.50394.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Freitag, 16. Januar 2009 16:13:32 schrieb Mathieu Bridon (bochecha): > If you felt attacked by my email, I'm truly sorry as this was not > intentional. If you didn't, then you can ignore this email you're reading > right now :) no i was not ;) - i hope we have not confused the others ;) Paul, what do you think, can we close this thread? Regards Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 16 15:38:10 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:38:10 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Update CLT 2009 Message-ID: <200901161638.15839.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Hi, Today i have received the confirmation for our booth on CLT2009[1] The CLT Website is now available also in english [2] The Exhibitor has limited the number of BoothPersonal - because of capacity planing - so we have a maximum of 5 People as Booth Personal/Speaker with comfort package. You are welcome to visit CLT nonetheless and if you are a FedoraContributor we will of course, take care for your comfort at CLT ;) CU Joerg [1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/CLT [2]http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2009/info/index_en.html -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Fri Jan 16 15:57:48 2009 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:57:48 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] 2009-01-15 FAMSCO Meeting summary Message-ID: <20090116165748.0dada07e@mrtomlinux.org> Hello and welcome to this first FAMSCO weekly meeting summary. The latest meeting was hold on the 15th January 2009 on #fedora-meeting Attendees: Francesco Fugolini David Nalley Joerg Simon Susmit Shannigrahi Thomas Canniot Regreted attendee: Max Spevack Francesco Ugolini announces the agenda: 1) Budget 2) Tasks status 3) t.b.d. 1) Budget As Max Spevack was not attending this meeting, he sent his report about budget on the FAMSCO mailing list. Max is dealing with both Fedora EMEA e.V and Fedora-fr non profit organization 2009 budgets, as long as all the budget requests for FOSDEM which is due to happen next February. The new FAMSCO trac system [1] will be used by Max to help tracking the budget requests. Meeting attendees did not make any comment on Max's management of the budget. 2) Tasks status The discussion follows Francesco's mail about the sharing of FAMSCO tasks [2]. Some tasks do not have an owner yet. Thomas Canniot decided to take the summary meeting task and the coordination of French speaking contributors. Joerg Simon take the task to move the AMA tracking system to TRAC and to automate some FAS tasks. Francesco and Susmit explain the opportunity for local administrators to manage local ambassadors thanks to this tracking system. Francesco reminds everyone that Max is dealing with the budget task already and invites other FAMSCO members to take the tasks that interest them the most. The discussion then moved to the new tracking system where some bugs were noticed. Joerg explains he will fix them tomorrow. Susmit will write a status mail about the tracking system. David Nalley and Joerg then stand as candidates for the marketing liaison officer task. As this task is kind of new, FAMSCO decides to let them explore what it would require in the future. Francesco reminds that, as FAMSCO leader, he is already the liaison officer with Fedora Board. Francesco adds the wiki tasks page [2] will be updated tomorrow according to the new tasks sharing, and invites everybody to continue talking on the FAMSCO mailing list about this very subject before next week meeting. 3) TBD Finally, Susmit informs FAMSCO that the Freemedia sending process is now automatised and accessible through a form on the wiki [3]. Francesco adjourned the meeting. Thanks for reading and see you next week. [1] https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/TasksList [3] http://fedoraproject.org/freemedia/FreeMedia-form.html Your dear FAMSCO -------------- next part -------------- -- Famsco-list mailing list Famsco-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/famsco-list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 16 16:00:14 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:00:14 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM attendees README In-Reply-To: <200901131720.29977.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200901131720.29977.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <200901161700.17216.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Dienstag, 13. Januar 2009 17:20:26 schrieb JoergSimon: > Am Dienstag, 13. Januar 2009 13:43:04 schrieb Max Spevack: > > I'm not sure what > > Joerg is planning for making a new round of polos, but I will let him > > respond with any information that he has. > A order is placed and SantaFeTex will produce them in time, so i can bring > them to fosdem for all who are listed at the orderlist in the wiki. > Additional in coordination with Fedora EMEA e.V. we have ordered 10 more in > different sizes to equip Ambassadors at Fosdem. Overall 34 Polos. Costs this time - 25,44? per shirt. CU -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From frankly3d at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 16 16:32:55 2009 From: frankly3d at fedoraproject.org (Frank Murphy) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:32:55 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4970B6B7.8030300@fedoraproject.org> inode0 wrote: > This is very nice indeed. One question I raised during a board > townhall in the past was whether there was any objection to offering > those requesting freemedia unity re-spins (since this would help > alleviate download problems for these users when trying to get a large > number of updated packages immediately after installation). Privately, I have thought this, but I fell Unity may possibly need more testers to get, a proper monthly\bi-monthly schedule up and running. I for one am willing to put some testing time in. Frank From paul at paulmellors.net Fri Jan 16 17:11:14 2009 From: paul at paulmellors.net (paul at paulmellors.net) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:11:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <200901161622.50394.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1232125874.798@paulmellors.net> JoergSimon wrote .. > Am Freitag, 16. Januar 2009 16:13:32 schrieb Mathieu Bridon (bochecha): > > If you felt attacked by my email, I'm truly sorry as this was not > > intentional. If you didn't, then you can ignore this email you're reading > > right now :) > > no i was not ;) - i hope we have not confused the others ;) > > Paul, what do you think, can we close this thread? > > Regards Joerg > -- > Joerg (kital) Simon > jsimon at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon > http://kitall.blogspot.com > Key Fingerprint: > 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 Hi All Yes i think we should close this thread now....Thanks for all your comments and opinions, i hope as a new ambassador i didn't cause too much trouble ;) Best Regards Paul From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Fri Jan 16 17:22:07 2009 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:22:07 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <200901161334.26884.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <200901160857.38569.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1232107488.3680.30.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <200901161334.26884.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1232126527.3680.86.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Freitag, den 16.01.2009, 13:34 +0100 schrieb JoergSimon: > Am Freitag, 16. Januar 2009 13:04:48 schrieb Christoph Wickert: > > 1. This has nothing to do with moral at all. > > 2. This _is_ on topic. Gerold asked why there is a need for a UK > > community website and why the content could not be published at fpo. > > People who demand everything should be published at the official webpage > > first have to act their part and enable people to do it. I'm open for > > constructive suggestions here. > > "Everything"? Have i say?d that? - and Forbidden items as well?:) No, you didn't, me nether. From the context of my previous mails IMO it's clear what I meant, but if you prefer splitting hairs you should not complain about me "twisting facts". > We started > mentoring to help new Ambassadors to differ wrong from right. Everyone has > the Freedom to build what he want from Fedora - and everyone is free to > support this - but this is a non-fedora topic. > And "could not be published at fpo" that say?s it all. IMO it says that we are not able to serve certain needs of the community and most likely never will due to legal and technical restrictions. > Please stop to > complicate our life with twisting facts. We talk about an Ambassador who is > willing to spend time on Fedora and need advice - should he put this effort > in another fedoraforum.org with regional character - or should he contribute > to Fedora directly and build a regional FedoraCommunity inside the > FedoraInfrastructure? The fedora infrastructure is no "one size fits all" thing. Different local communities have different needs. ATM we don't even have the infrastructure to build up local communities inside our infrastructure. And as long as we don't have that and require a high level of technical knowledge and officialism, there definitely is a need for community sites. > He will have all support todo it! I'm sure he will, but let me ask you: What would a local community inside the current Fedora infrastructure look like? I'm really open to suggestions, but so far I haven't heard anything constructive. > > CU Joerg Regards, Christoph From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Fri Jan 16 17:23:58 2009 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:23:58 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <200901152327.26026.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1232060598.3711.33.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <200901160045.05135.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1232070888.3711.125.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: <1232126638.3680.88.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Freitag, den 16.01.2009, 13:31 +0100 schrieb Max Spevack: > On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > > This is why I think that there need to be community sites surrounding > > the actual Fedora project. > > This is part of the role that (among others) Fedora Forum and Fedora > Solved play, is it not? Yes, but IMO the question is: Are we limited to Fedora Forum and Fedora Unity or can there be other sites as well? I think the latter is correct. > They provide a valuable service to our larger community. Correct. And I doubt anything on fp.o can do the same. > ======== > > That said, it seems to me that it is easier for everyone if *as much as > is possible and permitted* lives within fp.o somewhere -- that to me > feels like the "upstream whenever you can" mindset that we apply to our > code. I completely agree and I already said that in my first email when I replied to Gerold: "I agree with you Gerold that we should try to move as much content to fpo, ..." > --Max > Regards, Christoph From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Fri Jan 16 17:27:20 2009 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:27:20 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <200901161359.30480.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <200901161334.26884.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <6186.VwBUX15WXiw=.1232110087.squirrel@webmail.no-log.org> <200901161359.30480.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1232126840.3680.93.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Am Freitag, den 16.01.2009, 13:59 +0100 schrieb JoergSimon: > But once again my question, should a new native english speaking Ambassador > put his effort in just another fedoraforum.org? Who says it's "just another fedoraforum.org"? I'm sure this is not what Paul has in mind because in his very first mail he wrote: "First of all, i don't want to duplicate peoples work..." I have to admit that I don't like fedoraforum.org for several reasons, but I do like other sites and participate there. I used to be very active at debianforum.de and there we used to have regular user meetings. Now try to organize a German/British/Irish user meeting at the global fedoraforum.org. Good luck! What I want to say: If a community has a local basis it's much more likely that people will participate and actually feel part of a community. Regards, Christoph From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 16 17:56:44 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:56:44 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <1232125874.798@paulmellors.net> References: <1232125874.798@paulmellors.net> Message-ID: <200901161856.50768.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Freitag, 16. Januar 2009 18:11:14 schrieb paul at paulmellors.net: > Yes i think we should close this thread now....Thanks for all your comments > and opinions Thanks all for your interest! Regards Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 16 18:39:51 2009 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:39:51 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 Release Events/Parties - Conclusion Message-ID: Even if it seems late, I want to thank you all Fedora 10 Release Parties/Events' owners. You have done a marvellous job, with great results and a big success all over the world. It was a really pleasure to read and see the photo through your reports: those ones underlined your hard job and demonstrated your big capacity and creativity organizing an event in a 100% Fedora style. I don't want to take more of your precious time. Starting from your feedbacks we are going to plan another amazing challange, I'm sure your help will be as important as crucial like it was in the past REs. Thank you from me and FAmSCo Regards Francesco Ugolini From linuxglobe at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 21:15:53 2009 From: linuxglobe at gmail.com (Mark McLaughlin) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:15:53 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Promoting Fedora in the Boston Area Inquiry Message-ID: <68f54c2a0901161315r778e630em5974ddedeece0525@mail.gmail.com> Hello, what can I do to promote Fedora in the Boston area beyond mentioning it in a Linux Users Group, free advertising is GREAT but what avenue is there? 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However > printer sharing and firewalling would also be needed in the > near future. > Yes I have done that but could not ping the other computers. > tymensk, Ghana > > > Internet sharing can be done through your router or if you're > adventurous enough, you can turn your fedora box as a router. For file > sharing and printer sharing, you can use samba to connect windows and > linux boxes. > -- > Heherson Pagcaliwagan > http://project.azneita.org > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Fedora Ambassador http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ajamison -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Another interesting activity could be organize some session with Boston developers and ask them to work on a specific side of Fedora (it will rise Fedora visibility among linux developers community and will get a support to the development process). That's my humble POV. Regards Francesco Ugolini From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Sat Jan 17 12:17:25 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:17:25 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] fedora on school computers In-Reply-To: <170310.61506.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <170310.61506.qm@web55606.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50baabb30901170417p3017192dgfd8cfac3054c39cb@mail.gmail.com> 2009/1/16 Samuel Teyemensah: > hi, everybody. I have been working on getting fedora installed on some of > the computers in school where I am undergoing my internship. Hello Samuel, if you have sometime can you please give the Education SIG (on their mailing list) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Education some inputs on: - age (range) of students - location of the school - which field of expertise is the school (maths,biology,chemistry..) - any thing that can help the Education SIG shape the Fedora-Edu spin for schools and how ambassadors like you can deploy Fedora easily for schools. Sebastian Dziallas is working hard to ease educational software's deployment. Kind regards, Chitlesh From mspevack at redhat.com Sat Jan 17 13:45:28 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:45:28 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora/FOSDEM Press kit In-Reply-To: <3161376e0901160133m3b7bf021g3e4f52bfa79ce630@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0901160133m3b7bf021g3e4f52bfa79ce630@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Frederic Hornain wrote: > This is the press kit for the FOSDEM'09 Frederic, Can you send the original document? I would like to make some edits before we mass-produce. Thanks! --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Sat Jan 17 13:53:14 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:53:14 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora UK Community Website In-Reply-To: <1232126638.3680.88.camel@wicktop.localdomain> References: <496F08CA.9090405@paulmellors.net> <200901152327.26026.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1232060598.3711.33.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <200901160045.05135.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1232070888.3711.125.camel@wicktop.localdomain> <1232126638.3680.88.camel@wicktop.localdomain> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Yes, but IMO the question is: Are we limited to Fedora Forum and > Fedora Unity or can there be other sites as well? I think the latter > is correct. Yes. As long as the sites comply with our Trademark Guidelines. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Sat Jan 17 13:56:23 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:56:23 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM attendees README In-Reply-To: <200901161700.17216.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200901131720.29977.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <200901161700.17216.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, JoergSimon wrote: > Costs this time - 25,44? per shirt. For simplicity, let's just say 25 EUR. The .44 per shirt will be paid for by me :) --Max From dezone24 at gmail.com Sat Jan 17 14:41:34 2009 From: dezone24 at gmail.com (Diego Escobar) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:41:34 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora takes care about the planet? FZC Proyect Message-ID: Hi all: Is not a secret that our world passes for a critical time: excessive pollution, the indiscriminate felling of trees, the irrational use of natural resources, global warming and many other things that have made me wonder what can we do? Lot of people including informatics and people relationed with technology thinks is this a location outside and cant do anything. But it is always possible make a grand of sand... everybody can save the world. Regarding Fedora: - Fedora promotes some kind of ecology? We do not need strict recycling policies or abstinence, from simple things like "the last person exiting please turn off the light." - In development policies Fedora how we save? Reuse of software components is a very common practice. Can we measure it? Can we save more? - Promote the use of the Live USB Creator. How well would you do if instead of burning the CD / DVD, use the Live USB Creator using your own memory stick? Think about this: every 6 months with each release hundreds of discs become obsolete. The USB is a way certainly more rational environmentally speaking. - What features are in Fedora that promote energy savings? Personally I think that Fedora should come with default saving policies stricter starting turning off the monitor instead of darkening the screen. - What features could be included in Fedora that promote saving and efficiency of the system? - Planting trees at least 3 for each server 24 / 7 that we have. (Thanks to Fedora Brazil) With this in mind, Fedora could be promoted not only as a operating system friendly to the planet, this reinforces the sense of community, Fedora user is not only a computer user is a good citizen. Now, discussing this inside Latam Community, we have agreed create the Fedora Zero Carbon Proyect (Fedora Cero Carbono in spanish). The objetive starting from this simple ideas (and a lot of what we have had) is a campain promoving Fedora looking to the racional use of resorces and good job practices. The Fedora Zero Carbon Proyect was originally created and promoved by Rodrigo Padula of Fedora Brazil to reduce the CO2 contamination (congratulations!) and now Latam Community with all this ideas are in the same way... our world. So, what do think? Fedora takes care about the planet? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ZeroCarbon (under construction) -- Diego Escobar Fedora Ambassador for Colombia Fedora Release 9 (Sulphur): Linux Kernel 2.6.27 + Gnome 2.22 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From inode0 at gmail.com Sat Jan 17 16:56:50 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:56:50 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora takes care about the planet? FZC Proyect In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2009/1/17 Diego Escobar : > > Hi all: > > Is not a secret that our world passes for a critical time: excessive > pollution, the indiscriminate felling of trees, the irrational use of > natural resources, global warming and many other things that have made me > wonder what can we do? > > Lot of people including informatics and people relationed with technology > thinks is this a location outside and cant do anything. But it is always > possible make a grand of sand... everybody can save the world. > > Regarding Fedora: > > Fedora promotes some kind of ecology? We do not need strict recycling > policies or abstinence, from simple things like "the last person exiting > please turn off the light." Is there already a set of common sense guidelines (I'm sure there must be) that we might just adopt and recommend rather that creating our own policies? > In development policies Fedora how we save? Reuse of software components is > a very common practice. Can we measure it? Can we save more? > > Promote the use of the Live USB Creator. How well would you do if instead of > burning the CD / DVD, use the Live USB Creator using your own memory stick? > Think about this: every 6 months with each release hundreds of discs become > obsolete. The USB is a way certainly more rational environmentally speaking. This is something I raised for discussion at the recent FUDcon in Boston and that I completely support. I think we should work toward the goal of reducing the volume of CDs and DVDs we distribute each release for the reasons you have expressed. While we aren't likely to be able to reduce them to zero, I think we can certainly start tipping the balance toward more USB sticks and fewer CDs and DVDs. > What features are in Fedora that promote energy savings? Personally I think > that Fedora should come with default saving policies stricter starting > turning off the monitor instead of darkening the screen. This is interesting too. An aggressive CPU scaling default probably wouldn't even be noticed by most users. > What features could be included in Fedora that promote saving and efficiency > of the system? > > Planting trees at least 3 for each server 24 / 7 that we have. (Thanks to > Fedora Brazil) A campaign to involve the Fedora community in something like this is also something I strongly support, regardless of connecting the effort with some measure of our hardware. It would be very cool to have a map of trees planted around the world by the Fedora community on the wiki showing we care about our world and work together in different ways to make things a little bit better for us all. > With this in mind, Fedora could be promoted not only as a operating system > friendly to the planet, this reinforces the sense of community, Fedora user > is not only a computer user is a good citizen. I completely agree with you. > Now, discussing this inside Latam Community, we have agreed create the > Fedora Zero Carbon Proyect (Fedora Cero Carbono in spanish). The objetive > starting from this simple ideas (and a lot of what we have had) is a campain > promoving Fedora looking to the racional use of resorces and good job > practices. > > The Fedora Zero Carbon Proyect was originally created and promoved by > Rodrigo Padula of Fedora Brazil to reduce the CO2 contamination > (congratulations!) and now Latam Community with all this ideas are in the > same way... our world. > > So, what do think? Fedora takes care about the planet? Thank you Diego for thinking about these issues and raising them here. I'm on board. John From frankly3d at fedoraproject.org Sat Jan 17 17:12:09 2009 From: frankly3d at fedoraproject.org (Frank Murphy) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:12:09 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora takes care about the planet? FZC Proyect In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49721169.4040502@fedoraproject.org> inode0 wrote: >> Promote the use of the Live USB Creator. How well would you do if instead of >> burning the CD / DVD, use the Live USB Creator using your own memory stick? >> Think about this: every 6 months with each release hundreds of discs become >> obsolete. The USB is a way certainly more rational environmentally speaking. > I think we can certainly start tipping > the balance toward more USB sticks and fewer CDs and DVDs. > If a guideline on correct size (stick) to use for a livecd vs dvd-install, is posted somewhere on fp.o. I have no problem with it, and usually use DVD\CD-RW currently. Frank From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Sat Jan 17 17:19:15 2009 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:19:15 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora takes care about the planet? FZC Proyect In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1232212755.3081.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> > > Promote the use of the Live USB Creator. How well would you do if instead of > > burning the CD / DVD, use the Live USB Creator using your own memory stick? > > Think about this: every 6 months with each release hundreds of discs become > > obsolete. The USB is a way certainly more rational environmentally speaking. > > This is something I raised for discussion at the recent FUDcon in > Boston and that I completely support. I think we should work toward > the goal of reducing the volume of CDs and DVDs we distribute each > release for the reasons you have expressed. While we aren't likely to > be able to reduce them to zero, I think we can certainly start tipping > the balance toward more USB sticks and fewer CDs and DVDs. Well, I also totally agree. In fact, when we organized our French Release Party for F10, we based ourselves on the work that Luca Foppiano and the other Italian Ambassadors had done for a previous RP they had. We created a nice Live USB Creation Station and we asked people to bring their USB keys with them when we communicated about the event. This has been a great success. Of course, we gave some CDs away, but we (Carlos specifically) created lots and lots of Live USB sticks (even a Mandriva one that got Fedora on it :). We'll hopefully do it again next time, and I hope we can this way reduce the number of CDs we create. Carlos, do you have even an approximate number of how many you created during those 2 days ? > > What features are in Fedora that promote energy savings? Personally I think > > that Fedora should come with default saving policies stricter starting > > turning off the monitor instead of darkening the screen. > > This is interesting too. An aggressive CPU scaling default probably > wouldn't even be noticed by most users. This was a feature for Fedora 8 IIRC (somewhere between F7 and F9): use Powertop a lot to identify unbehaviouring apps and reduce power consumption. Of course, we must go on. A side benefit of it is that users will see their batteries last more before they have to charge it again. > > What features could be included in Fedora that promote saving and efficiency > > of the system? > > > > Planting trees at least 3 for each server 24 / 7 that we have. (Thanks to > > Fedora Brazil) > > A campaign to involve the Fedora community in something like this is > also something I strongly support, regardless of connecting the effort > with some measure of our hardware. It would be very cool to have a map > of trees planted around the world by the Fedora community on the wiki > showing we care about our world and work together in different ways to > make things a little bit better for us all. That would be great just next to an Ambassadors map and a Packagers map and a ...... If only the dev of Shomyu [1] was not so lazy and actually worked on it ^_^ [1] http://fedorahosted.org/shomyu ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From prakhar at fedoraproject.org Sat Jan 17 17:29:00 2009 From: prakhar at fedoraproject.org (Prakhar Agarwal) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:59:00 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora takes care about the planet? FZC Proyect In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm in 100% Its a noble idea. We should involve some degree of "Nature" or "Environment" in our promotion. Maybe we can add some text/line/phrase in Fedora posters/banners saying: "Save Environment, Go for USB drives". (we can even have a set of stickers highlighting the same). Most radical can be if someday Fedora includes a little "Greener" look and feel. Just my opinion. Lets see what the community says. Cheers! -- Prakhar Agarwal Linux User# 474643 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Prakhar "Life is the greatest teacher" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hacataka at gmail.com Sat Jan 17 17:32:54 2009 From: hacataka at gmail.com (Hacataka Comodo) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:32:54 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora takes care about the planet? FZC Proyect In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: lo podemos hacer mediante imagenes, iconos dentro de toda la comunidad todo lo que tenga quye ver con naturaleza. 2009/1/17 Prakhar Agarwal > I'm in 100% > Its a noble idea. We should involve some degree of "Nature" or > "Environment" in our promotion. Maybe we can add some text/line/phrase in > Fedora posters/banners saying: "Save Environment, Go for USB drives". (we > can even have a set of stickers highlighting the same). Most radical can be > if someday Fedora includes a little "Greener" look and feel. Just my > opinion. Lets see what the community says. > > Cheers! > -- > Prakhar Agarwal > Linux User# 474643 > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Prakhar > "Life is the greatest teacher" > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It shows the organizations's sources of revenue as well as expenses in the calendar year. http://fedoraemea.org/finances2008.shtml I would also like to publicly thank Jeroen van Meeuwen for his OpenOffice.org spreadsheet hacking skills which added a very impressive layer of automated calculations to our finances. --Max From kwade at redhat.com Sat Jan 17 18:50:43 2009 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:50:43 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora takes care about the planet? FZC Proyect In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090117185043.GH7770@calliope.phig.org> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 09:41:34AM -0500, Diego Escobar wrote: > - In development policies Fedora how we save? Reuse of software > components is a very common practice. Can we measure it? Can we save more? This is interesting. I wonder if we can make a reasonable guess at how many watts of power it takes to write X lines of code. This makes it possible to give an estimate on how much energy (money, for those who prefer to think that way) is saved by reusing software v. reinventing. > - Promote the use of the Live USB Creator. How well would you do if > instead of burning the CD / DVD, use the Live USB Creator using your own > memory stick? Think about this: every 6 months with each release hundreds of > discs become obsolete. The USB is a way certainly more rational > environmentally speaking. We Ambassadors had a long discussion on this very topic last weekend at FUDCon. Currently, we cannot abandon the CD/DVD, but we can move toward prefering USB. * People get something useful to keep even if they don't want to keep the live distro. * It lasts for years instead of six months. * It can be reused for the next release, the one after that, etc. * A Fedora-branded USB gives people a good impression of Fedora everytime they see or use it. The cost of USB media in bulk with a logo is rapidly approaching the cost per CD/DVD. > - What features are in Fedora that promote energy savings? Personally I > think that Fedora should come with default saving policies stricter starting > turning off the monitor instead of darkening the screen. If this is a matter of setting defaults, you could propose a Feature for that. For something like that, it is going to take a person such as you who is passionate about making it happen. Just asking folks on fedora-devel-list isn't going to make it happen. > - What features could be included in Fedora that promote saving and > efficiency of the system? > - Planting trees at least 3 for each server 24 / 7 that we have. (Thanks > to Fedora Brazil) Yeah, that could make an interesting way for Ambassadors to promote Fedora. In the US we have 'Arbor Day', which is a day where people across the country plant a tree. We could do installfests on that day, talking about how many trees are saved when Fedora is used, and also plant trees as a group. :) > So, what do think? Fedora takes care about the planet? Why only concern is that it is very popular to be 'green' these days. I don't want to just be jumping on the bandwagon, a phrase that means here, "Joining in with everyone else because it is the popular thing to do." That said, it is simple responsibility on our part to tell our users and the world the costs and benefits to the environment of using Fedora (and other Linuxes.) - Karsten -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It was > founded in February of 2008 by a group of Fedora Ambassadors. > > In *my* opinion, the main purpose of the organization is to serve as a tool > for Red Hat (or possibly other companies someday) to sponsor the activities > of the Fedora Project in EMEA. > > === > > Much like the Fedora Project itself, which believes in financial > transparency (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Accounting), Fedora EMEA e.V. > adopts the same principals. > > As the treasurer, I want to bring everyone's attention to the final summary > of Fedora EMEA e.V.'s 2008 expenses. It shows the organizations's sources > of revenue as well as expenses in the calendar year. > > http://fedoraemea.org/finances2008.shtml > > I would also like to publicly thank Jeroen van Meeuwen for his > OpenOffice.org spreadsheet hacking skills which added a very impressive > layer of automated calculations to our finances. > > --Max > Thank you for this report and thank you to all the people who worked over it! Regards Francesco Ugolini From opossum1er at fedoraproject.org Sat Jan 17 20:44:55 2009 From: opossum1er at fedoraproject.org (Carlos Vassalo (opossum1er)) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:44:55 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora takes care about the planet? FZC Proyect In-Reply-To: <1232212755.3081.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1232212755.3081.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1232225095.3673.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le samedi 17 janvier 2009 ? 18:19 +0100, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) a ?crit : > Carlos, do you have even an approximate number of how many you created > during those 2 days ? Of course. I made 13 sticks on saturday and 15 on sunday. And I didn't do more because I can only make one at the time, and there were a few I had to refuse. I'm working on a new version of USB live station to make more than one stick at the time (maybe 4), to future release parties. 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The event as mentioned on our wiki is aimed at increasing the Linux user base more on a local basis (in college and other colleges around). Once this is done we will move onto workshops to help people contribute to the project. We are still a very young LUG. All help is appreciated in advance. regards, Ankur https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AnkurSinha From prakhar at fedoraproject.org Sun Jan 18 08:57:24 2009 From: prakhar at fedoraproject.org (Prakhar Agarwal) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:27:24 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora takes care about the planet? FZC Proyect In-Reply-To: <1232225095.3673.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1232212755.3081.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1232225095.3673.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Carlos Vassalo (opossum1er) > I made 13 sticks on saturday and 15 on sunday. And I didn't do more > because I can only make one at the time, and there were a few I had to > refuse. > > I'm working on a new version of USB live station to make more than one > stick at the time (maybe 4), to future release parties. > I have tweaked the Kobold script to achieve this. I was not sure whom to contact for its adoption. The latest kobold.py that I modified can install Fedora on as many USB sticks as you want. Just plug-in all of them, run the Kobold script and go for a walk! :) Cheers! -- Prakhar Agarwal Linux User# 474643 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Prakhar "Life is the greatest teacher" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is it on the main FedoraEvents page? You should get in touch with Sankarshan about getting some budget help. Good luck with your event! --Max From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Sun Jan 18 10:17:17 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:47:17 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Event announcement In-Reply-To: References: <1232265228.6944.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1232273837.6944.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 11:14 +0100, Max Spevack wrote: > On Sun, 18 Jan 2009, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > > This email is to announce the LUGM OpenWeek that we propose to hold > > from the 1st to 7th of march this year. It will be the 1st event of > > Q1. Please refer > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LUGMopenweek for more > > details. The Links there will guide direct you to the wiki page. All > > comments are welcome. > > > > The event as mentioned on our wiki is aimed at increasing the Linux > > user base more on a local basis (in college and other colleges > > around). Once this is done we will move onto workshops to help people > > contribute to the project. > > > > We are still a very young LUG. All help is appreciated in advance. > > Is it on the main FedoraEvents page? > > You should get in touch with Sankarshan about getting some budget help. > > Good luck with your event! > > --Max hi, Yes, I have put it up on the main Events page. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents#Asia.2C_India.2C_Australia_Q1 I will contact Sankarshan shortly. Thank you, Ankur From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Sun Jan 18 10:19:25 2009 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:19:25 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1930UTC #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20090118111925.13521b2f@mrtomlinux.org> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2009-01-18 / 19:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (18 jan.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'h?sitez pas ? le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent int?ressants. Thomas Canniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Just plug-in all of them, run the Kobold > script and go for a walk! :) Sounds wonderful ! ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Sun Jan 18 11:58:17 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:58:17 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag 2009 speaking opportunities Message-ID: If you already know that you will attend LinuxTag 2009 and would like to give a talk, please do the right thing on this page. It should be self-explanatory. We are looking for talks on a variety of subjects and a variety of levels of technical depth. You may sign up to give your talk in either English or German. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxTag_2009_talks Feel free to share the link with anyone in the Fedora or JBoss.org community who might be interested. The (still in planning) page for LinuxTag 2009 is here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxTag2009 --Max From kanarip at kanarip.com Sun Jan 18 14:03:59 2009 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:03:59 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag 2009 speaking opportunities In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <497336CF.6010002@kanarip.com> Max Spevack wrote: > If you already know that you will attend LinuxTag 2009 and would like to > give a talk, please do the right thing on this page. > > It should be self-explanatory. We are looking for talks on a variety of > subjects and a variety of levels of technical depth. You may sign up to > give your talk in either English or German. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxTag_2009_talks > To clarify a little, what a Configuration Management track would be about, I had the following in mind: - introduction (.5 talk) - cobbler/koan (1 talk) - puppet/augeas (1 talk) - func/symbolic (1 talk) - QA (.5 talk) + ------------------------------- All talks: 4 hours bearing in mind it should be a consistent set of talks, emphasizing why/how to use these technologies, what is so cool about them, etc. Any comments/ideas? Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sun Jan 18 14:14:56 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:44:56 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Event announcement In-Reply-To: <1232273837.6944.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1232265228.6944.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1232273837.6944.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: >> > We are still a very young LUG. All help is appreciated in advance. In case you need any help, please let us know in the fedora-india list. Thanks for your nice effort. :) -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From mspevack at redhat.com Sun Jan 18 14:21:34 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:21:34 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FOSDEM: Devroom schedule shift on Saturday In-Reply-To: References: <3161376e0901140612w1b4724b6yc0c4bc3a425d8f9d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Jan 2009, Max Spevack wrote: >>> I assume that it's fine if we simply keep your schedule for Saturday >>> as-is and simply shift each talk to being one hour later. If not, >>> please reply ASAP. > > Is someone willing to switch places with Luca Foppiano and give him a > Saturday slot in return for the Sunday one? Bumping this thread up. We really need someone to switch spots with Luca. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2009#Speakers_in_the_Dev_Room --Max From robert at fedoraproject.org Sun Jan 18 15:12:37 2009 From: robert at fedoraproject.org (Robert Scheck) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:12:37 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag 2009 speaking opportunities In-Reply-To: <497336CF.6010002@kanarip.com> References: <497336CF.6010002@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <20090118151237.GA2733@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > - QA (.5 talk) + QA is what we're lacking in Fedora, we should enlarge that somehow to 1 talk - IMHO. Maybe we can get a suitable person for that, when looking to myself, I see me more as bleeding edge guy ;-) Greetings, Robert From fab at fedoraproject.org Sun Jan 18 15:45:00 2009 From: fab at fedoraproject.org (Fabian Affolter) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:45:00 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] OpenExpo 2009 Berne Message-ID: <49734E7C.1060608@fedoraproject.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, The OpenExpo [1] will be hold at April, 1st. We are not in a hurry about that event at the moment but I would like to know if you are planning to attend OpenExpo and/or help at the booth. I sent this beside the ambassadors-list to all Swiss Fedora contributors because I would like to see as many Swiss Fedora contributor there as possible. The advantage with more people around a table is that we will be able to cover more topics (from packaging over artwork to translation) and a strong presence there can strength the Fedora Project. Please add a note to the organizing page [2] in the Fedora Wiki if you will join us there. Thanks in advance. Kind regards, Fabian [1] http://openexpo.ch/ [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/OpenExpo/OpenExpo2009_Berne - -- Fingerprint: 2F6C 930F D3C4 7E38 6AFA 4EB4 E23C D2DD 36A4 397F Fedora always leads and never follows. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklzTnwACgkQ4jzS3TakOX+PIwCbBoCxWKTaOhZmVUIMdMWeAECk nnIAnRFqFzlQiotwQO/9EdSOvybg0+I1 =qdYd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From robert at fedoraproject.org Sun Jan 18 17:08:53 2009 From: robert at fedoraproject.org (Robert Scheck) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:08:53 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora EMEA e.V. 2008 financial report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090118170853.GA13354@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> On Sat, 17 Jan 2009, Max Spevack wrote: > As the treasurer, I want to bring everyone's attention to the final > summary of Fedora EMEA e.V.'s 2008 expenses. It shows the > organizations's sources of revenue as well as expenses in the calendar > year. thank you very much for presenting the details. As I brought up some bigger discussion around that in December 2008, I'm really very pleased to see so many details now - and also to see, that we've been successful. I think, we have reached a lot for the first year. > http://fedoraemea.org/finances2008.shtml I don't know, how the hotel at LinuxTag was paid, but if it was handled by our NPO and not directly by Red Hat, we're lacking that - at least "Events" seems to be very cheap to me then. When seeing the credits of membership fees, I'm a bit confused: I think, we have more than 10 members, but the total income of the NPO is below. There are surely a few ones which get the reduced membership fee (e.g. by being a student or similar), but anyway I think, one or another still has forgotten to pay the yearly membership fee for 2008. So, Max will maybe agree with my assumption, but this must not exposed into public! As FOSDEM in February 2009 is the next event, I'm trying hereby to REMEMBER YOU ALL as member of Fedora EMEA e.V. to pay the current membership fee to our treasurer - and, if you have not already paid for 2008 yet, you might want to do that as well. Note: I don't want to blame anybody here - really just a remembering to all of us, as yearly recurrences are more hard to keep in mind. Greetings, Robert -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I will make the change on the schedule. --Max From kanarip at kanarip.com Sun Jan 18 18:17:15 2009 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:17:15 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] LinuxTag 2009 speaking opportunities In-Reply-To: <20090118151237.GA2733@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> References: <497336CF.6010002@kanarip.com> <20090118151237.GA2733@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> Message-ID: <4973722B.5000809@kanarip.com> Robert Scheck wrote: > On Sun, 18 Jan 2009, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: >> - QA (.5 talk) + > > QA is what we're lacking in Fedora, we should enlarge that somehow to 1 > talk - IMHO. Maybe we can get a suitable person for that, when looking to > myself, I see me more as bleeding edge guy ;-) > I meant to say Q&A, I'm sorry. QA however is a good idea too, and maybe we can ask wwoods to send us some of what he uses when he has a presentation on QA, and find someone willing to and suitable to execute the slidedeck in front of an audience. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From david at gnsa.us Mon Jan 19 00:02:29 2009 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:02:29 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Report: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts. Message-ID: Aaron Ruscetta invited me to come talk about Fedora and specifically Fedora 10 at the Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts January meeting. this past Thursday was that meeting and was held at Emory's School of Law. Around 35-45 people showed up. I tried to avoid using a canned presentation and instead talk about what people were interested in. I did show off Fedora 10 and tossed up a list of the new features which brought a number of questions. I also talked about OLPC and Sugar Labs. This seemed to generate a lot of excitement particularly now that getting involved with OLPC development is as easy as getting involved with Fedora. I stopped the 'presentation' after 90 minutes, and stayed around for about another hour or so answering questions one on one. I also handed out LiveCDs (the debut of F10 LiveCDs outside of FUDcon) which seemed to be a big hit. From fhornain at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 06:56:36 2009 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:56:36 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FOSDEM: Devroom schedule shift on Saturday In-Reply-To: References: <3161376e0901140612w1b4724b6yc0c4bc3a425d8f9d@mail.gmail.com> <1232292325.10763.140.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <3161376e0901182256l7e0e44e7nf9b38ba6eec24187@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Well, I am going to forward this last modification to the FOSDEM Team in order to apply the modification on their web site. Thanks. BR Frederic On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Sun, 18 Jan 2009, Simo Sorce wrote: > > I can change place with Luca. It would actually be ideal for me, so that I >> can have both talks in the Same day (I also have a main track at Fosdem). >> > > Perfect. I will make the change on the schedule. > > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Jan 19 08:56:04 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:56:04 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora EMEA e.V. 2008 financial report In-Reply-To: <20090118170853.GA13354@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> References: <20090118170853.GA13354@hurricane.linuxnetz.de> Message-ID: Hi Robert, I am glad that this report was pretty satisfactory to you. As I said in December during that previous discussion, producing this report was one of the things that was on our agenda for this weekend in January. We just needed a little bit of time to get it all put together. > I don't know, how the hotel at LinuxTag was paid, but if it was > handled by our NPO and not directly by Red Hat, we're lacking that - > at least "Events" seems to be very cheap to me then. It was handled directly by the Community Architecture budget, not by the e.V. Only some of the Community Architecture budget that is meant for EMEA is transferred to the e.V. -- not all of it. > When seeing the credits of membership fees, I'm a bit confused: I > think, we have more than 10 members, but the total income of the NPO > is below. There are surely a few ones which get the reduced membership > fee (e.g. by being a student or similar), but anyway I think, one or > another still has forgotten to pay the yearly membership fee for 2008. > So, Max will maybe agree with my assumption, but this must not exposed > into public! A reminder was sent privately to everyone who still needs to pay their 2008 membership fees. I am confident that they will all get paid soon. Thanks for your comments, Max From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Jan 19 08:56:51 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:56:51 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FOSDEM: Devroom schedule shift on Saturday In-Reply-To: <3161376e0901182256l7e0e44e7nf9b38ba6eec24187@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0901140612w1b4724b6yc0c4bc3a425d8f9d@mail.gmail.com> <1232292325.10763.140.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3161376e0901182256l7e0e44e7nf9b38ba6eec24187@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Jan 2009, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Well, I am going to forward this last modification to the FOSDEM Team > in order to apply the modification on their web site. Thanks. Thank you Frederic. the Fedora wiki has been updated to show the change. Luca, are you all set now? --Max From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 19 11:22:18 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:22:18 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 'ambassadors-kit' In-Reply-To: <4973B3EB.1040300@devnox.be> References: <20090114212841.17A202081FC@bastion.fedora.phx.redhat.com> <200901142235.58520.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <4973B3EB.1040300@devnox.be> Message-ID: <200901191222.21831.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Sonntag, 18. Januar 2009 23:57:47 schrieb Bert Desmet: > Hi Joerg, > > I have heard in the #fedora-ambassadors channel on irc that there are > ambassadorKit's. > But the wiki about it says that it's only a proposel until now? Hi Bert, i post this in Ambassadors ML too, this is an important Topic! there are several started Projects, Kit?s, Boxes etc ... 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URL: From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 12:46:09 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:16:09 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <4970B6B7.8030300@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: > > Please test it. Sorry, forgot to include the link https://fedoraproject.org/freemedia/FreeMedia-form.html > Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 12:44:41 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:14:41 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: <4970B6B7.8030300@fedoraproject.org> References: <4970B6B7.8030300@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: > Privately, I have thought this, > but I fell Unity may possibly need more testers to get, > a proper monthly\bi-monthly schedule up and running. > I for one am willing to put some testing time in. Hi, According to the suggestions on the list, I have modified the freemedia form and scripts to include the following 1. Included the Four regions APAC, LATAM, NA, EMEA in the drop down list. So when someone from non-listed countries want to request, he/she may choose the region. 2. I have broken up the address field into four separate fields. 3. I have introduced error checking. If any field is left blank, an error page comes up. Please test it. Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From luca at foppiano.org Mon Jan 19 12:53:56 2009 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:53:56 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FOSDEM: Devroom schedule shift on Saturday In-Reply-To: References: <3161376e0901140612w1b4724b6yc0c4bc3a425d8f9d@mail.gmail.com> <1232292325.10763.140.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3161376e0901182256l7e0e44e7nf9b38ba6eec24187@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1232369636.22792.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 09:56 +0100, Max Spevack wrote: > Thank you Frederic. the Fedora wiki has been updated to show the > change. > > Luca, are you all set now? yes, thank you. Luca -- Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 19th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3175 "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of purge." From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 13:00:35 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?IlNhbmthcnNoYW4gKOCmuOCmmeCnjeCmleCmsOCnjeCmt+Cmoyki?=) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:30:35 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <4970B6B7.8030300@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <49747973.3020903@gmail.com> On 01/19/2009 06:14 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > 2. I have broken up the address field into four separate fields. > > 3. I have introduced error checking. If any field is left blank, an > error page comes up. ACK on 3, it does throw up an error page on blank fields. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From willy_garcia at yahoo.com Mon Jan 19 13:01:12 2009 From: willy_garcia at yahoo.com (Willy Garcia) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:01:12 -0200 (ARST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 'ambassadors-kit' In-Reply-To: <200901191222.21831.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <634586.37679.qm@web31911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Joerg! It seems a wonderful idea! Perhaps we in Latam can "customize" the box. Mat?as Maceira is asking for resources needed for Q1 and Q2, the box may be the "all-in-one" way... Big Hug! Guillermo Garcia (AKA Willy Garcia) Analista de Sistemas (Univ. del Salvador) Yahoo! Cocina Recetas pr?cticas y comida saludable http://ar.mujer.yahoo.com/cocina/ From fhornain at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 13:24:47 2009 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:24:47 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora at FOSDEM'09 Poster Message-ID: <3161376e0901190524g312cc488v4ceb55f32e8f197a@mail.gmail.com> Dear * FYI, this the Poster Fedora at FOSDEM'09 : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2009#Poster BR Frederic -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stickster at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 14:04:33 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:04:33 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora at FOSDEM'09 Poster In-Reply-To: <3161376e0901190524g312cc488v4ceb55f32e8f197a@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0901190524g312cc488v4ceb55f32e8f197a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090119140433.GH5366@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 02:24:47PM +0100, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Dear * > > FYI, this the Poster Fedora at FOSDEM'09 : > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2009#Poster Two things you should change on the poster: 1. The Fedora logo at the upper left needs to have more space between it and the word "Schedule." Generally, you should leave clearance equal to about half the width of a letter on all sides. You can refer to this wiki page for details: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#Logo_Clear_Space 2. The Fedora logo at the bottom right is an altered logo and should not be used at all. Thanks for making these changes, Frederic! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 14:06:44 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:36:44 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <4970B6B7.8030300@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: > 1. Included the Four regions APAC, LATAM, NA, EMEA in the drop down list. > So when someone from non-listed countries want to request, he/she may > choose the region. I am so very sorry. I forgot to add the Africa Region. Fixed it. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From fhornain at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 13:47:14 2009 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:47:14 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FOSDEM: Devroom schedule shift on Saturday In-Reply-To: <1232369636.22792.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <3161376e0901140612w1b4724b6yc0c4bc3a425d8f9d@mail.gmail.com> <1232292325.10763.140.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3161376e0901182256l7e0e44e7nf9b38ba6eec24187@mail.gmail.com> <1232369636.22792.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <3161376e0901190547y104bf5edlf9537cde62440789@mail.gmail.com> Dear Luca, dear Max, Done http://www.fosdem.org/2009/schedule/devrooms/fedoracentos updated. Best Regards Frederic On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Luca Foppiano wrote: > On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 09:56 +0100, Max Spevack wrote: > > Thank you Frederic. the Fedora wiki has been updated to show the > > change. > > > > Luca, are you all set now? > > yes, thank you. > > Luca > -- > Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 19th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3175 > > "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of purge." > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Januar 2009 23:57:47 schrieb Bert Desmet: >> Hi Joerg, >> >> I have heard in the #fedora-ambassadors channel on irc that there are >> ambassadorKit's. >> But the wiki about it says that it's only a proposel until now? > > Hi Bert, > > i post this in Ambassadors ML too, this is an important Topic! > there are several started Projects, Kit?s, Boxes etc ... > > EventBox > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox > > Draft Ambassador Kit North America > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica/Drafts/Tools > > FedoraKit Italia - one time? Project sponsored by bytecode > http://blog.foppiano.org/2008/10/23/fedora-kit-landed-around-italy/ > > I would love to see the "AmbassadorKit" also as a mindset of ideas and best > practices for organizing events and getting ressources ... what do you think > about this? > > Regards Joerg Hi all, I've updated the wiki page above to show that we've completed both components on that page. I also changed its name so that it would work for all ambassadors in all regions. I'd like to see a list of tools listed here available for any/all ambassadors to request. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassador_Tools If other regions are interested in having these components, please follow the links from the above page and create your own. Also, I noticed that the Italian AmbassadorKit has a few things the North American one does not. For instance, we didn't include posters, the Fedora KIT DVD (what is this exactly?) nor the USB Cable. We didn't include those things due to the idea that an AmbassadorKit is useful for ad-hoc and small events, though maybe including a single Fedora poster might not be a bad idea. Cheers, Clint From stickster at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 16:10:26 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:10:26 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora at FOSDEM'09 Poster In-Reply-To: <3161376e0901190726x5cd633d6w95db7a1f61e1869f@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0901190524g312cc488v4ceb55f32e8f197a@mail.gmail.com> <20090119140433.GH5366@localhost.localdomain> <3161376e0901190726x5cd633d6w95db7a1f61e1869f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090119161026.GR5366@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 04:26:45PM +0100, Frederic Hornain wrote: > 2009/1/19 Paul W. Frields > > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 02:24:47PM +0100, Frederic Hornain wrote: > > > Dear * > > > > > > FYI, this the Poster Fedora at FOSDEM'09 : > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2009#Poster > > > > Two things you should change on the poster: > > > > 1. The Fedora logo at the upper left needs to have more space between > > it and the word "Schedule." Generally, you should leave clearance > > equal to about half the width of a letter on all sides. 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Cross) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:17:03 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <4970B6B7.8030300@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:44 AM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > 1. Included the Four regions APAC, LATAM, NA, EMEA in the drop down list. > So when someone from non-listed countries want to request, he/she may > choose the region. > I don't want to be annoying but I feel the regions are overlaping. The drop box have North America, Latin America and South America. A Mexican can be either North America or Latin America. This is upon which geographical book you consult. And for a Colombian it may be South America or Latin America. I will think it will be more helpful just to have Latin America, as I is only one list (group) to check. Then it may be dangerous to have "Other." As many request may end up there, and in a busy day I may skip checking those marked as "Other" Another way to improve finding each one's tickets may be using the country name that was written by the user, and include it to be part of the summary. So it will possible to list by regions, and see the country name within the region request. For example, I can see the list grouped and under LATAM I can spot which tickets say Nicaragua. I have seen a behaviour that I am not sure if it is a bug or not. If I open a ticket and change its country. Like changing from latam to other. It will change where it is grouped, but the summary will still show the original subject (summary). You can check on ticket #30 as example of this. This may result confusing. I don't want to be annoying, I just wanted to give some ideas. Feel free to discard them if they are not applicable. Best regards -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 17:30:15 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:00:15 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <4970B6B7.8030300@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: > I don't want to be annoying but I feel the regions are overlaping. The > drop box have North America, Latin America and South America. A > Mexican can be either North America or Latin America. This is upon > which geographical book you consult. And for a Colombian it may be > South America or Latin America. I will think it will be more helpful > just to have Latin America, as I is only one list (group) to check. I omitted South America First, then I got confused if only NA and LATAM will cover all the countries..so I added South America. :) Perhaps People from America can suggest what will be the best. Thank you for raising this point. > Then it may be dangerous to have "Other." As many request may end up > there, and in a busy day I may skip checking those marked as "Other" > Another way to improve finding each one's tickets may be using the > country name that was written by the user, and include it to be part > of the summary. So it will possible to list by regions, and see the > country name within the region request. For example, I can see the > list grouped and under LATAM I can spot which tickets say Nicaragua. This will be hard...TRAC executes standard sql query, so if someone Types country as 'India' and someone else as INDIA, they will be listed under two different countries. Let me see what can be done. > I have seen a behaviour that I am not sure if it is a bug or not. If I > open a ticket and change its country. Like changing from latam to > other. It will change where it is grouped, but the summary will still > show the original subject (summary). You can check on ticket #30 as > example of this. This may result confusing. I shall look into this if I can use a text field in place of the drop down menu. > I don't want to be annoying, I just wanted to give some ideas. Feel > free to discard them if they are not applicable. Not at all. Thanks a lot for your nice inputs. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From herlo1 at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 18:16:50 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:16:50 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <4970B6B7.8030300@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:30 AM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: >> I don't want to be annoying but I feel the regions are overlaping. The >> drop box have North America, Latin America and South America. A >> Mexican can be either North America or Latin America. This is upon >> which geographical book you consult. And for a Colombian it may be >> South America or Latin America. I will think it will be more helpful >> just to have Latin America, as I is only one list (group) to check. > > I omitted South America First, then I got confused if only NA and > LATAM will cover all the countries..so I added South America. :) > Perhaps People from America can suggest what will be the best. > Thank you for raising this point. IIRC, the regions are defined so that LATAM includes Mexico. South America is not a region in Fedora, LATAM covers that as well. Cheers, Clint From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 19:28:30 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:58:30 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <4970B6B7.8030300@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: I think at last I have figured out what to do. Instead of Country, the first field is "Region". Country is automatically chosen from address field. Reports are generated based on regions and classified by countries. I have reset the trac. Please file a few new tickets at https://fedoraproject.org/freemedia/FreeMedia-form.html Also you can find the reports here https://fedorahosted.org/freemedia/report When a new request comes, it is in the "Pending requests report." Then when it is accepted, it goes to "Accepted requests report." When it is closed, it goes to "Fulfilled requests report." Awaiting test results. Thanks. :) -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 19:36:11 2009 From: chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com (Dipanjan Chakraborty) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:06:11 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <4970B6B7.8030300@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Dipanjan Chakraborty < chakraborty.dipanjan at gmail.com> wrote: > > > When I put the country as India, the status shows: Dipanjan Chakraborty > from wants a i386 DVD. > The country is skipped. > It seems to be ok now: "Dipanjan Chakraborty from INDIA wants a i386 DVD." -- Yours sincerely, Dipanjan Chakraborty -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I will try again to confirm this behaviour. -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From nacross at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 19:31:07 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:31:07 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <4970B6B7.8030300@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:30 AM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > This will be hard...TRAC executes standard sql query, so if someone > Types country as 'India' and someone else as INDIA, they will be > listed under two different countries. > Let me see what can be done. > I am not a technical person but I think that a search for India + INDIA + inida may yield results and if somebody type iNDIA should be left out. Other idea is to convert India and inida to INIDIA, so will be uniform and it is quite acceptable for address labelling. I always use upper cases for country names on address labels. But I think that it will possible to start with something easier. Leave the country (from the pull down) to be the way to group tickets. Use country (4th field from address) to be part of title of the ticket (aka summary). This way when I look for tickets I will have a LATAM group of tickets and I have to look just for Nicaragua within that group. As long as the country name is on the ticket title, I can use the browser search to locate the tickets that I want to fulfil. I agree with Clint Savage, LATAM should suffice our needs. I will come again to suggest that you cross-out others. It will be the target of embargoed destination countries, and anybody that is not that use others will have less attention. As I wrote before, on a busy day I may skip looking at others. best regards -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 19:41:39 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:11:39 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <4970B6B7.8030300@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: > I am not a technical person but I think that a search for India + > INDIA + inida may yield results and if somebody type iNDIA should be > left out. Other idea is to convert India and inida to INIDIA, so will > be uniform and it is quite acceptable for address labelling. I always > use upper cases for country names on address labels. Just done this. I have taken care of the issue. Now you can locate all the Latin America Tickets (or other region) from https://fedorahosted.org/freemedia/report -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From nacross at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 19:47:58 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:47:58 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <4970B6B7.8030300@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Neville A. Cross wrote: > > I now that you are working on this right now. > I just filled another ticket. All the address field were erased upon > submitting the ticket. > I will try again to confirm this behaviour. > >From the web form to the ticket first screen (where you submit the new ticket) the address fields are been erased. All of them, including region. -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 19:52:56 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:22:56 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <4970B6B7.8030300@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: > >From the web form to the ticket first screen (where you submit the new > ticket) the address fields are been erased. All of them, including > region. It is working for me just fine. https://fedorahosted.org/freemedia/ticket/7 Probably the changes take a few minutes to properly propagate to all the servers. Can you try to bypass you browser cache (ctrl+shift+r) and try once more? Thanks for your help. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From bert at devnox.be Mon Jan 19 20:05:39 2009 From: bert at devnox.be (Bert Desmet) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:05:39 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 'ambassadors-kit' In-Reply-To: <200901191222.21831.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <20090114212841.17A202081FC@bastion.fedora.phx.redhat.com> <200901142235.58520.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <4973B3EB.1040300@devnox.be> <200901191222.21831.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4974DD13.2090406@devnox.be> JoergSimon schreef: > EventBox > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox > > Draft Ambassador Kit North America > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica/Drafts/Tools > > FedoraKit Italia - one time? Project sponsored by bytecode > http://blog.foppiano.org/2008/10/23/fedora-kit-landed-around-italy/ > > I would love to see the "AmbassadorKit" also as a mindset of ideas and best > practices for organizing events and getting ressources ... what do you think > about this? > > I think the American version of the box is quite nice, but I would include a poster (or 2), because when you give an event, even a little, posters can be handy, because they express or motto, and I think they make and event more attractive. I don?t know why the put an USB cable in the Italian kit? I just know what you can do with that on an event. An instruction paper could be handy, but I don?t know if it?s necessary, after all: we have the wiki! So my proposal for a ?global? Ambassadors kit: *40 live cd?s (20x i686, 20x x86_64) *one or two fedora posters *one or two T shirts *10 ~ 20 sheets of Fedora Stickers *10 or so fedora buttons -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From fhornain at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 20:45:57 2009 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:45:57 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora at FOSDEM'09 Poster In-Reply-To: <4974A822.5070301@pingoured.fr> References: <3161376e0901190524g312cc488v4ceb55f32e8f197a@mail.gmail.com> <20090119140433.GH5366@localhost.localdomain> <3161376e0901190726x5cd633d6w95db7a1f61e1869f@mail.gmail.com> <20090119161026.GR5366@localhost.localdomain> <4974A822.5070301@pingoured.fr> Message-ID: <3161376e0901191245h3de939dbu7be3c9a45157c280@mail.gmail.com> Done On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Pierre-Yves wrote: > Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2009#Poster >>>>> >>>> > Super, thanks Frederic! >> > It's indeed a very nice poster but I find the schedule hard to read, maybe > a change in the colour or increase the police could help. > > Anyway congratulation ! Nice work :) > > Pierre > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nacross at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 19:59:57 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:59:57 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <4970B6B7.8030300@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:52 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Can you try to bypass you browser cache (ctrl+shift+r) and try once more? I tried again. It cut the address, I only got the first half of the first address field. I have to go out of office right now. I will be back in an hour or so and can keep on testing with you. Best regards. -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From nacross at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 21:52:25 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:52:25 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Neville A. Cross wrote: > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:52 PM, susmit shannigrahi > wrote: >> Can you try to bypass you browser cache (ctrl+shift+r) and try once more? > > I tried again. It cut the address, I only got the first half of the > first address field. I just found out what was making problems. In the first address field, I put: "Calle Las Lilas # 67" The # symbol cut all the information from the request form to the ticket. The info is complete in the URL bar of the browser, but the ticket body is not showing. So that is the bug... you can not use the symbol # in the address, because the ticket system does not interpret that correctly. Should you warn people to avoid using the symbol # ? Should you make the script to erase such symbols ? should you edit the script to make sure is interpreted as comment ? Best regards! -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From racl at gulix.cl Tue Jan 20 00:35:10 2009 From: racl at gulix.cl (Roy Alvear (Admin GULIX)) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:35:10 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 'ambassadors-kit' In-Reply-To: <4974DD13.2090406@devnox.be> References: <20090114212841.17A202081FC@bastion.fedora.phx.redhat.com> <200901142235.58520.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <4973B3EB.1040300@devnox.be> <200901191222.21831.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <4974DD13.2090406@devnox.be> Message-ID: <8c4d97720901191635i5b1acafdoe563c756f17044f@mail.gmail.com> 2009/1/19 Bert Desmet : > > > JoergSimon schreef: >> >> EventBox >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox >> >> Draft Ambassador Kit North America >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica/Drafts/Tools >> >> FedoraKit Italia - one time? Project sponsored by bytecode >> http://blog.foppiano.org/2008/10/23/fedora-kit-landed-around-italy/ >> >> I would love to see the "AmbassadorKit" also as a mindset of ideas and >> best practices for organizing events and getting ressources ... what do you >> think about this? >> >> > > I think the American version of the box is quite nice, but I would include a > poster (or 2), because when you give an event, even a little, posters can be > handy, because they express or motto, and I think they make and event more > attractive. I don't know why the put an USB cable in the Italian kit? I just > know what you can do with that on an event. An instruction paper could be > handy, but I don't know if it's necessary, after all: we have the wiki! > > So my proposal for a 'global' Ambassadors kit: > > *40 live cd's (20x i686, 20x x86_64) > *one or two fedora posters > *one or two T shirts > *10 ~ 20 sheets of Fedora Stickers > *10 or so fedora buttons What would be the cost of the kit? Would you be available for Latin America? Thanks Roy > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- -------------------------------------------- RAcl - Administrador GULIX - www.gulix.cl Coordinador nacional FLISOL 2009 - www.flisol.cl From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue Jan 20 00:40:09 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:40:09 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 'ambassadors-kit' In-Reply-To: <8c4d97720901191635i5b1acafdoe563c756f17044f@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090114212841.17A202081FC@bastion.fedora.phx.redhat.com> <200901142235.58520.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <4973B3EB.1040300@devnox.be> <200901191222.21831.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <4974DD13.2090406@devnox.be> <8c4d97720901191635i5b1acafdoe563c756f17044f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Roy Alvear (Admin GULIX) wrote: > 2009/1/19 Bert Desmet : >> >> >> JoergSimon schreef: >>> >>> EventBox >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox >>> >>> Draft Ambassador Kit North America >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica/Drafts/Tools >>> >>> FedoraKit Italia - one time? Project sponsored by bytecode >>> http://blog.foppiano.org/2008/10/23/fedora-kit-landed-around-italy/ >>> >>> I would love to see the "AmbassadorKit" also as a mindset of ideas and >>> best practices for organizing events and getting ressources ... what do you >>> think about this? >>> >>> >> >> I think the American version of the box is quite nice, but I would include a >> poster (or 2), because when you give an event, even a little, posters can be >> handy, because they express or motto, and I think they make and event more >> attractive. I don't know why the put an USB cable in the Italian kit? I just >> know what you can do with that on an event. An instruction paper could be >> handy, but I don't know if it's necessary, after all: we have the wiki! >> >> So my proposal for a 'global' Ambassadors kit: >> >> *40 live cd's (20x i686, 20x x86_64) >> *one or two fedora posters >> *one or two T shirts >> *10 ~ 20 sheets of Fedora Stickers >> *10 or so fedora buttons > > What would be the cost of the kit? > Would you be available for Latin America? > > Thanks > Roy > Roy, In North America, the cost was approximately $40 with shipping and everything per kit. We're hoping to ship around 100 of these in the next two quarters. your mileage may vary :) Cheers, Clint From frankly3d at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 20 08:07:57 2009 From: frankly3d at fedoraproject.org (Frank Murphy) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:07:57 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <4970B6B7.8030300@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4975865D.4010602@fedoraproject.org> susmit shannigrahi wrote: Did a Europe trial, and closed it. But the EMEA fulfilled, shows as nothing found. Frank From azneita at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 20 10:26:54 2009 From: azneita at fedoraproject.org (Heherson Pagcaliwagan) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:26:54 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: <4975865D.4010602@fedoraproject.org> References: <4970B6B7.8030300@fedoraproject.org> <4975865D.4010602@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <928156be0901200226v10fcd2efua08755dd23e3d077@mail.gmail.com> Opened some tickets for testing and everything came out okay. With a misspelled country name, you have to edit the ticket manually before closing it. Verified "#" breaking the address lines. We need to put that clearly somewhere on the form. On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > Did a Europe trial, and closed it. > But the EMEA fulfilled, shows as nothing found. > > > Frank > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Heherson Pagcaliwagan http://project.azneita.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Clint Savage wrote: > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Roy Alvear (Admin GULIX) > wrote: > > 2009/1/19 Bert Desmet : > >> > >> > >> JoergSimon schreef: > >>> > >>> EventBox > >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox > >>> > >>> Draft Ambassador Kit North America > >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica/Drafts/Tools > >>> > >>> FedoraKit Italia - one time? Project sponsored by bytecode > >>> http://blog.foppiano.org/2008/10/23/fedora-kit-landed-around-italy/ > >>> > >>> I would love to see the "AmbassadorKit" also as a mindset of ideas and > >>> best practices for organizing events and getting ressources ... what do > you > >>> think about this? > >>> > >>> > >> > >> I think the American version of the box is quite nice, but I would > include a > >> poster (or 2), because when you give an event, even a little, posters > can be > >> handy, because they express or motto, and I think they make and event > more > >> attractive. I don't know why the put an USB cable in the Italian kit? I > just > >> know what you can do with that on an event. An instruction paper could > be > >> handy, but I don't know if it's necessary, after all: we have the wiki! > >> > >> So my proposal for a 'global' Ambassadors kit: > >> > >> *40 live cd's (20x i686, 20x x86_64) > >> *one or two fedora posters > >> *one or two T shirts > >> *10 ~ 20 sheets of Fedora Stickers > >> *10 or so fedora buttons > > > > What would be the cost of the kit? > > Would you be available for Latin America? > > > > Thanks > > Roy > > > > Roy, > > In North America, the cost was approximately $40 with shipping and > everything per kit. We're hoping to ship around 100 of these in the > next two quarters. your mileage may vary :) > > Cheers, > > Clint > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From inode0 at gmail.com Tue Jan 20 14:05:34 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:05:34 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Looking for a Chicago area owner for PyCon 2009 Message-ID: Fedora is planning to participate in several ways at PyCon this March including presentations and possibly an OLPC related development sprint. I'm not in a position currently to take ownership of this event for a booth presence and I'm looking for an ambassador in the area who might be able to do that. If you are interested please contact me as soon as possible. See the PyCon website for http://us.pycon.org/2009/about/ for details. Thanks, John From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Tue Jan 20 15:22:12 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:52:12 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: <928156be0901200226v10fcd2efua08755dd23e3d077@mail.gmail.com> References: <4970B6B7.8030300@fedoraproject.org> <4975865D.4010602@fedoraproject.org> <928156be0901200226v10fcd2efua08755dd23e3d077@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks a lot. 1. Yes, "#" was breaking the tickets. Field checking introduced. Now almost all special characters will be erased on submitting the form. 2. For EMEA, the sql query was wrong. Fixed it. I testes it, looks fine. Thanks again for the extensive testing and valuable inputs. If possible, some more testing please. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue Jan 20 21:47:41 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:47:41 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fwd: [Reminder] FAMNA Meeting @ 2009-01-20 9pm ET Message-ID: Clint Savage, this is a reminder for FAMNA Meeting 2009-01-20 9pm ET irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting (map) Just a quick reminder that we'll be holding our weekly meeting in #fedora-meeting (irc.freenode.net) tonight at 9pm ET (6pm PT) If you are interested in participating, or have something to contribute, feel free to add it to our agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-01-20 See you all there. From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Wed Jan 21 01:36:18 2009 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:36:18 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAD SCaLE item on tonight's FAmNA meeting agenda Message-ID: <7a0d56080901201736l190ada6fk6359f458c76d23b8@mail.gmail.com> Hey, all -- I may be late to the meeting tonight, so if I am, I'd like for the chair to wait for the FAD SCaLE item until I arrive. To get a head start, what I'd like to discuss is the following: -- FAD SCaLE: What do we want to accomplish? Is there any project that need work (someone mentioned one last week). -- Is there anything other than work we want to accomplish as well, i.e., social time, etc. We have a fairly large room at our disposal, which I'll discuss tonight. See you then. Larry Cafiero -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From inode0 at gmail.com Wed Jan 21 14:45:10 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:45:10 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2009-01-20 Message-ID: (08:00:03 PM) inode0: FAmNA Meeting - Roll Call please (08:01:36 PM) QuickStart: QuickStar here (08:01:42 PM) QuickStart: .fas QuickStart (08:01:43 PM) ***DemonJester present (08:01:43 PM) zodbot: QuickStart: luisotero2 '' (08:01:51 PM) DemonJester: .fas DemonJester (08:01:52 PM) zodbot: DemonJester: bpowell01 'Brian Powell' (08:02:07 PM) DemonJester: let the spam begin.. ;) (08:02:20 PM) inode0: perhaps wikilink is better? (08:02:41 PM) ***DemonJester personally doesnt mind gmail handles it well (08:03:13 PM) inode0: we will be joined in a bit by others I think so let's start (08:03:23 PM) inode0: Announcements (08:03:30 PM) ***inode0 has one (08:03:35 PM) QuickStart: go for it (08:03:57 PM) inode0: We have moved to the twice a month schedule now through February, so no meeting next week (08:04:19 PM) DemonJester: the next one on a thursday right? (08:04:27 PM) inode0: We will meet next month on 2/3 and 2/7 with Mike McGrath joining us on 2/3 to discuss infrastructure with us (08:04:49 PM) inode0: DemonJester: no, we are staying on Tuesdays for another month (08:04:53 PM) QuickStart: Mike McGrath as in Sugar ray? (08:04:59 PM) ***DemonJester hopes someone is going to remind him of when the meeting is, I already am confused about the new schedule (08:05:00 PM) inode0: I meant 2/3 and 2/17 (08:05:05 PM) inode0: not 2/7 (08:05:06 PM) QuickStart: k (08:05:20 PM) inode0: 1st and 3rd Tuesday (08:05:35 PM) inode0: herlo will still send out reminders (08:05:43 PM) DemonJester: thats good (08:05:47 PM) inode0: Any other announcements? (08:06:02 PM) DemonJester: none here (08:06:06 PM) inode0: Agenda is here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-01-20 (08:06:14 PM) kam: Hi, Kam is on (08:06:20 PM) inode0: Hi Kam (08:06:41 PM) inode0: Larry is coming late to discuss the next couple of items (08:06:51 PM) inode0: So let's begin with COSSFEST (08:07:33 PM) inode0: We were contacted by folks from this conference about providing speakers (08:07:54 PM) DemonJester: Calgary.... That's a hike.. (08:08:12 PM) inode0: Which raises a lingering question in my mind ... why don't we have a good way to request speakers or do we and I don't know about it? (08:08:28 PM) DemonJester: I am not aware of any system for that either (08:09:09 PM) ***inode0 wonders how often this happens (08:09:42 PM) DemonJester: how did we get contacted this time? (08:10:09 PM) inode0: First they contacted Alex by email and she forwarded the mail to either the marketing or ambassador list (08:10:12 PM) djf_jeff: excuse my late arrival, work emergency call (08:10:21 PM) inode0: Then someone else stopped by in #fedora-ambassadors (08:10:29 PM) inode0: np djf_jeff (08:11:07 PM) DemonJester: ianweller: ping (08:11:09 PM) inode0: So who has a plan for trying to fill the request at hand? (08:11:41 PM) ***DemonJester notes to far for me, someone from the west coast perhaps (08:11:43 PM) inode0: Looks like a nice conference, 300-400 expected to attend this year (08:11:54 PM) QuickStart: where when? (08:12:06 PM) DemonJester: Calgary April 17 and 18 (08:12:15 PM) inode0: click on the link on the agenda for lots of details (08:13:17 PM) inode0: Since they are primarily looking for speakers I don't think hitting the ambassadors is quite enough (08:14:04 PM) QuickStart: true (08:14:56 PM) inode0: Perhaps we can bug FAmSCo about how to spread the word to possibly interested parties without being pests (08:15:02 PM) DemonJester: ah what the heck it's only 2134 miles for me ;) (08:15:22 PM) QuickStart: any plans on doing courses their? (08:15:24 PM) QuickStart: *there (08:15:30 PM) ***herlo is here for 15 minutes or so... (08:15:32 PM) inode0: Seems like this must have come up before (08:15:52 PM) DemonJester: Ask ian if there is a wiki page we may not be aware of (08:15:56 PM) inode0: QuickStart: we have no plans to be there at all at the moment (08:16:03 PM) QuickStart: k (08:16:27 PM) inode0: I just want to try to get word out if possible in case someone would like to go (08:17:01 PM) inode0: herlo: Would you like to update us on the budget news? (08:17:06 PM) djf_jeff: maybe the next FWN? (08:17:10 PM) herlo: we have more MONEY! (08:17:11 PM) inode0: while you are with us for a minute (08:17:17 PM) herlo: $10k total to be exact (08:17:31 PM) inode0: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget (08:17:32 PM) herlo: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget (08:17:34 PM) herlo: lol (08:17:56 PM) QuickStart: yeah money (08:18:30 PM) inode0: so we mop up the media needs, add some conference funds, and some persistent infrastructure items? (08:18:49 PM) QuickStart: so is it possible to have our Ambassador Kits? (08:18:58 PM) DemonJester: we already do (08:18:59 PM) herlo: QuickStart: order one and we'll deliver it (08:19:15 PM) herlo: I am in the process of looking into some retractable signs (08:20:01 PM) loupgaroublond: hi all (08:20:02 PM) DemonJester: herlo: like the ones at OLF? (08:20:13 PM) herlo: DemonJester: maybe (08:20:17 PM) DemonJester: cool! (08:20:19 PM) ***lcafiero tries to sneak in unnoticed and takes a seat in the back. (08:20:24 PM) herlo: I was thinking there are some things to overcome with those (08:20:27 PM) inode0: lcafiero: welcome and we'll get to your items shortly (08:20:28 PM) herlo: lcafiero: hi (08:20:31 PM) herlo: good timing (08:20:43 PM) ***DemonJester pulls charid out from under lcafiero to draw attention to him ;-) (08:20:45 PM) herlo: we have money for FAD at SCaLE too (08:20:47 PM) DemonJester: chair (08:20:50 PM) djf_jeff: herlo: let me know what you found on retractable sign, we just made some at our job, I can get the pricing if you want to compare (08:21:00 PM) herlo: djf_jeff: cool, will do (08:21:16 PM) QuickStart: yeaaaaa I gonna get a kit (08:21:36 PM) herlo: so if you guys know of anything that is paid, updated it on the Budget page (08:21:38 PM) inode0: QuickStart: use it wisely (08:21:54 PM) herlo: luke (08:21:55 PM) DemonJester: did MAX take care of SPP yet? (08:22:00 PM) herlo: use the force, luke (08:22:09 PM) herlo: DemonJester: dunno, but he's on a plane today (08:22:13 PM) QuickStart: lol (08:22:13 PM) loupgaroublond: i have to go afk for a bit, but we got the ambassador kit for pittsburgh, it was pretty well received (08:22:20 PM) ***QuickStart moves a chair hey I'm a jedi (08:22:52 PM) herlo: anyway, I want lcafiero to talk about FAD at SCaLE, so I'll shut up and watch... (08:23:13 PM) lcafiero: And I'll watch whatever herlo's watching. (08:23:14 PM) inode0: ok, I agree with herlo that we should all peek in at the budget page on the wiki from time to time and update it when appropriate (08:23:15 PM) lcafiero: Oh wait. (08:23:28 PM) herlo: :) (08:23:53 PM) lcafiero: Okay, FAD at SCaLE. (08:23:54 PM) inode0: Backing up on the agenda there are two SCaLE items and lcafiero has the floor for those now (08:24:28 PM) lcafiero: Okay, if it please the chair, I'd like to take them in reverse order. (08:24:47 PM) lcafiero: Agenda first, then volunteers. (08:25:56 PM) lcafiero: We have a fairly large room, the Kennedy room, at our disposal on the Friday before SCaLE, which will allow us an opportunity to get some things done (08:26:14 PM) lcafiero: Last week there were some ideas flown, but nothing etched in stone. (08:27:04 PM) lcafiero: Not having been to OLF, I don't have that as a reference point, but I would like to get some work done, have a presentation or two and, if it please those attending, having something social (i.e., not work) related in the evening. (08:27:47 PM) lcafiero: Again, this is on the Friday before SCaLE starts, and we join a couple of other somewhat large events prior to SCaLE, so it would give Fedora some significant exposure (08:28:23 PM) lcafiero: With the exposure facet of this, we should probably have some sort of presentation thing during the course of Friday along with the work we can do, if that's what we decide to do. (08:28:52 PM) inode0: Is this presentation for ambassadors or a public thing? (08:28:55 PM) lcafiero: So what I'm asking is for ideas from the floor about what kind of activities, presentations, etc., we should try to achieve. (08:29:10 PM) crossbytes: sorry that I am late (08:29:33 PM) DemonJester: crossbytes: no worries we will just dock your pay ;) (08:29:38 PM) lcafiero: I would think it would be open to the public -- especially the presentations. I don't think fixing packaging, for example (as mentioned last week), would appeal to someone who's new to Fedora. (08:30:00 PM) QuickStart: if you can pay for my travel to Cossfest I'll talk (08:30:31 PM) ianweller: DemonJester: whaaaaaat (pong) (08:30:32 PM) inode0: QuickStart: you need to submit a proposal for a talk that gets accepted :) (08:30:50 PM) lcafiero: I'd like to have an agenda firmed up by the end of the week, or by next meeting for approval. (08:30:53 PM) QuickStart: ok I'll talk to you later about it in the ambassador channel (08:31:03 PM) DemonJester: ianweller: are you aware of any wiki page for Fedora speaking requests or info? (08:31:05 PM) lcafiero: It can be discussed on f-a-l as well. (08:31:09 PM) ianweller: DemonJester: no (08:31:20 PM) DemonJester: ianweller: ok thanks. (08:31:23 PM) herlo: okay, so let me interject here (08:31:31 PM) lcafiero: please, herlo (08:31:34 PM) herlo: the point of FAD is to get somethign done for Fedora (08:32:00 PM) herlo: thus, Packaging Fonts (which is what I plan on promoting) and Docs (which Karsten put out a call) would be a great fit (08:32:11 PM) herlo: thx ke4qqq ^^ (08:32:14 PM) lcafiero: +1 (08:32:52 PM) herlo: the point about including outsiders into FAD should also be somethign we should do and very viable, thus an Ambassador presentation would be great. I am already presenting at SCaLE, so I vote for someone else. But (08:33:10 PM) lcafiero: I can do that, herlo (08:33:40 PM) herlo: we need to invite adora and the other guy from irivine (I fail at his name) to come along and would like to pay for their travel & room as needed, any objections? (08:34:01 PM) herlo: If anything is left over, I'd like to pay for lcafiero and my room (we can share probably) (08:34:16 PM) lcafiero: Adora and Jsmidt will be asked, and I know jsmidt expressed an interest in coming. (08:34:18 PM) herlo: anyway, that's my time, I have to go back to teaching (08:34:19 PM) lcafiero: I am following up on that. (08:35:16 PM) lcafiero: I discussed doing something earlier in the week at UC Irvine with jsmidt, and I will have to see if that's still on. (08:36:00 PM) lcafiero: Anyway, I like the idea of packaging fonts and docs. Anything else? Is that enough, work-wise? (08:36:28 PM) inode0: lcafiero: the problem with us suggesting things is that those things might not be a good fit for who actually attends (08:36:56 PM) QuickStart: true (08:37:01 PM) inode0: I would suggest nailing down the core attendees, and have them propose what they want to accomplish (08:37:02 PM) lcafiero: Good point, and I'm a living breathing example. Docs I can do, packaging fonts I'll have to learn. (08:37:23 PM) inode0: They will accomplish more if they are working on what interests them (08:37:35 PM) DemonJester: +1 (08:37:49 PM) lcafiero: Okay, then we'll work on the attendees. Other than herlo, quaid and me, anyone else here making it down to L.A.? (08:37:53 PM) lcafiero: Just curious. (08:37:56 PM) QuickStart: aren't the fonts bitmaps? (08:38:11 PM) QuickStart: I'll go if my stay and travel is covered (08:38:20 PM) ***DemonJester will not be making the trip (08:38:56 PM) lcafiero: Since the FAD concept has gone through a change recently to be more regional in nature, just seeing who's around, that's all. (08:39:09 PM) crossbytes: crossbytes won't be making the trip.. (08:39:26 PM) djf_jeff: I will not make it too (08:39:54 PM) lcafiero: Okay, thanks for the rough head count. (08:40:28 PM) DemonJester: lcafiero: shoot a message to the ML and see if any West Coaster are interested. (08:40:37 PM) lcafiero: On the issue of SCaLE itself, herlo is making a presentation and we're still looking for volunteers for the booth. (08:40:40 PM) lcafiero: Will do, DemonJester (08:40:41 PM) inode0: Not looking at a lot of takers here tonight but volunteers?! :) (08:40:58 PM) lcafiero: Didn't expect any, just thought I'd throw it out there for the record. (08:41:37 PM) inode0: Good to throw out, good to have a link handy to give others later (08:41:44 PM) lcafiero: The booth, in my opinion, is in a pretty good position on the floor. I am still working on the logistics with herlo and quaid to get the event box there. (08:41:45 PM) ***DemonJester suggests Adora :-) (08:41:59 PM) lcafiero: herlo, want to tell us what you're talking about at SCaLE? (08:42:13 PM) inode0: spins wasn't it? (08:42:23 PM) lcafiero: I believe so. (08:42:55 PM) inode0: herlo is teaching something now on Tuesdays so isn't here watching now I don't think (08:43:01 PM) lcafiero: Oh, right. (08:43:10 PM) lcafiero: Okay, so that's about it for those two items (08:43:18 PM) lcafiero: More to follow on the list. (08:43:30 PM) lcafiero: [Lots more] (08:43:41 PM) inode0: ok, thanks lcafiero (08:44:14 PM) inode0: I will slip in that I sent out a request for an owner of PyCon - please consider doing that if you are in the Chicago area (08:44:32 PM) lcafiero: +1 (08:44:40 PM) lcafiero: Also think about a FAD event in your area. (08:44:51 PM) lcafiero: (sorry inode0 -- had to throw that in) (08:45:05 PM) inode0: that is fine (08:45:16 PM) djf_jeff: Chicago is a little far for me but I already think of a FAD in Quebec (08:45:34 PM) lcafiero: +1 djf_jeff (08:46:22 PM) inode0: Alright, last formal item is the task list (which has dwindled to only a couple items) (08:46:51 PM) inode0: Speakers? ianweller and herlo were planning to round up some (08:47:04 PM) lcafiero: ? (08:47:07 PM) ianweller: oh for these meetings? (08:47:24 PM) inode0: Recruiting speakers, ian was to check with spot I recall (08:47:30 PM) ianweller: yeah. (08:47:34 PM) ***ianweller writes down to remember to do that (08:48:21 PM) inode0: once a month will work well so shoot for March or April if possible (08:49:10 PM) inode0: If there is no other business it is an open floor for any other discussion people would like to have (08:49:39 PM) DemonJester: inode0: did you get your shirts? (08:49:47 PM) lcafiero: I'd like to mention that we also have FADs in the works for LinuxFest Northwest in Washington in April (08:49:49 PM) inode0: yes I did, thanks (08:50:22 PM) DemonJester: any word on sticker shipments? (08:50:30 PM) inode0: not that I have heard (08:50:53 PM) DemonJester: who had them? Jared? (08:50:55 PM) inode0: I have some buttons still I can send out when I figure this shipping business out (08:51:25 PM) inode0: yes, I think mizmo perhaps was going to help us get some (08:51:56 PM) djf_jeff: just a quick note for the Montreal Linux Symposium, I have talked to my employer and I'm ok to go for the week. I just need to find somewhere to stay (08:52:07 PM) djf_jeff: and I will post on f-a-l all the details (08:52:16 PM) inode0: sweet, great news (08:52:25 PM) DemonJester: djf_jeff: Cool!! (08:52:31 PM) lcafiero: great, djf_jeff (08:52:46 PM) inode0: be sure matt knows and his contact at MLS knows (08:53:14 PM) QuickStart: montreal (08:53:21 PM) QuickStart: try the best western europa (08:53:50 PM) QuickStart: its not the best but its a good place to stay (08:53:54 PM) crossbytes: been approached to speak at an adult computer evening class re linux, would this qualify as a fad (08:54:12 PM) inode0: no, but it would qualify as an event (08:54:15 PM) DemonJester: no but put it on the event page (08:54:25 PM) DemonJester: ;) (08:54:29 PM) djf_jeff: I just want to sort all the details before contacting anyone, I need to find somewhere to get some sleep between the good events ;) (08:54:39 PM) djf_jeff: I need to ask my employer, I think we have an apartment in Montreal (08:54:59 PM) djf_jeff: I just need to confirm all this (08:55:24 PM) lcafiero: Just thought of something: How many people need polo shirts? (08:55:39 PM) QuickStart: me (08:55:48 PM) djf_jeff: lcafiero: +1 for me if it's possible (08:55:51 PM) crossbytes: after confirmation will add it to the events page (08:55:52 PM) lcafiero: I'm just wondering if there are enough of us, we can have Pascal make another order. (08:55:56 PM) inode0: we should see if they still plan to run a bus to and from Boston, and if so see if we can interest some people from there in going (08:55:58 PM) QuickStart: but put it on hold for the time being (08:56:16 PM) QuickStart: low on funds (08:56:26 PM) DemonJester: inode0: a bus to where? (08:56:32 PM) lcafiero: I'll put the polos on the list. (08:56:49 PM) inode0: the MLS organizers were talking about running a bus back and forth to Boston (08:57:02 PM) DemonJester: oh wow.. (08:57:06 PM) djf_jeff: it would be really nice (08:57:10 PM) lcafiero: How close to Montreal is Boston? (08:57:17 PM) inode0: would need to go back to matt's first or second email about it (08:57:33 PM) djf_jeff: 5-6 hours maybe, I have make the trip 6 month ago for my RHCE ;) (08:58:32 PM) inode0: lcafiero: are you going to ping pcalarco about the polos? (08:58:43 PM) inode0: He might still have one or two leftover from before (08:58:45 PM) lcafiero: inode0: yes. (08:59:23 PM) lcafiero: Every time they are available, I'm short of funds. Now I'm not. :-) (08:59:36 PM) DemonJester: 5.5 hours according to mapquest (08:59:38 PM) inode0: just send him your money now then :) (08:59:45 PM) lcafiero: Good idea (09:00:15 PM) ***lcafiero prefers denim shirts or sweaters to polos (09:00:59 PM) QuickStart: lol (09:01:01 PM) inode0: "... and he's working on chartered busses from several (nearby) cities such as Boston, Ottawa, and Toronto to ease getting to Montreal" (09:01:03 PM) ***djf_jeff prefers shirts too, but for job, a polos is nice and it give free publicity (09:01:49 PM) inode0: denim sweaters? (09:01:49 PM) ***QuickStart will spraypaint a fedora logo on a shirt to see if that works for the time being (09:01:58 PM) DemonJester: lol (09:02:28 PM) inode0: there are always buttons and stickers (09:03:07 PM) inode0: lots of good stuff happening (09:03:35 PM) inode0: remember the next meeting will be 2/3 and mmcgrath will be joining us (09:03:41 PM) djf_jeff: yeah, many events with a good Fedora presence (09:04:14 PM) inode0: are we done? (09:04:28 PM) inode0: 5 (09:04:28 PM) djf_jeff: done for me (09:04:32 PM) inode0: 4 (09:04:35 PM) inode0: 3 (09:04:38 PM) inode0: 2 (09:04:41 PM) inode0: 1 (09:04:47 PM) inode0: thanks everyone (09:04:49 PM) inode0: EOF From inode0 at gmail.com Wed Jan 21 14:45:51 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:45:51 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Summary from 2009-01-20 Message-ID: * Announcements - Reminder that the meetings in February will occur on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of the month. - Mike McGrath will attend the 1st meeting in February to discuss the work of the infrastructure group with us. Please make a note to attend this meeting and learn about infrastructure. * COSSFEST [http://www.cossfest.ca/] - We have been contacted in two ways by the organizers of the Calgary Open Source Systems Festival to see if we would like to give talks and perhaps have other presence at this event in April. If you see this and are interested please contact one of us to get you in touch with the folks in Calgary. * SCaLE FAD [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x] - lcafiero reports facilities and early planning for a FAD at SCaLE are done. Work now is ongoing to recruit attendees and set an agenda defining the concrete goals we hope to accomplish at this FAD. * SCaLE Booth Signup [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCALE7X_Event] - Some booth help is needed at SCaLE so if you are attending please visit this page and signup to spend some time at the Fedora booth. * Budget Review [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget] - Budget for Q4 increased about 50% allowing increased funding for a FAD at SCaLE this quarter, acquisition of the rest of the media for F10, and some additional purchases going to persistent ambassador infrastructure (herlo is investigating restractable signs for event boxes). * Tasks [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks] - Reminders to those with tasks to recruit future speakers from groups within Fedora we haven't yet had a chance to talk to. * Open Floor - A request went out of the f-a-l list looking for an owner for PyCon in Chicago. Please contact us if you are available to respresent the project at this event. Fedora will have a presence here and it would be nice to have our own booth as well. - lcafiero notes that work on a FAD at LFNW in April is also under way. - Some discussion of shipping supplies around (t-shirts, stickers, buttons). - djf_jeff reports that things are starting to look good for him to be our representative at the Linux Symposium in Montreal this July. Some details still need to be worked out on his end before we can proceed with more detailed event planning. - Several expressed interest in getting ambassador polos, lcafiero will contact pcalarco about the possibility of getting another order in before the next batch of events this year. I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight. From jkeating at redhat.com Wed Jan 21 16:39:12 2009 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:39:12 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Collaboration Summit - Linux Foundation Message-ID: <1232555952.3539.191.camel@localhost.localdomain> This year, the Collaboration Summit, which is Linux Foundation's cornerstone event, has an open call for papers for the first time. Any body in the Linux community is invited to submit papers for this event. http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/collaboration-summit -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jaa at redhat.com Wed Jan 21 18:41:39 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:41:39 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thoughts Regarding Campus Ambassador Program Message-ID: <49776C63.70707@redhat.com> Hello All, I would like to get some feedback regarding the proposed program. You can find the wiki page here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Campus_Ambassadors Let the discussion begin. Any feedback is greatly appreciated, I hope to get everything in order and announce this to the world soon. Thanks, Jack From jaa at redhat.com Wed Jan 21 18:42:56 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:42:56 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Collaboration Summit - Linux Foundation In-Reply-To: <1232555952.3539.191.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1232555952.3539.191.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49776CB0.2060508@redhat.com> I would like to see someone submit a talk about community building with a Fedora backdrop... Jack Jesse Keating wrote: > This year, the Collaboration Summit, which is Linux Foundation's > cornerstone event, has an open call for papers for the first time. Any > body in the Linux community is invited to submit papers for this event. > > http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/collaboration-summit > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From aacosta at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 21 19:48:02 2009 From: aacosta at fedoraproject.org (Alejandro Acosta) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:48:02 +1700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thoughts Regarding Campus Ambassador Program In-Reply-To: <49776C63.70707@redhat.com> References: <49776C63.70707@redhat.com> Message-ID: <6ad0ab20901211148q1e7b1c1gac38e4d72909aca1@mail.gmail.com> I believe this is a great project and it is very important to start it as soon as possible since we have a lot of potential and talented people in university willing to participate. I've had some opportunities to work with this young people and I've witnessed some local projects been achieved. In the University of Chihuahua (my hometown) there is already an Open Source University Meetup [1] lead by a Sun Campus Ambassador. This doesn't mean that the field is already taken but it just mean to express how good the chances to succed are. I think is important to have -provide- a more social-driven tool to interact since the target audience in Universities is a little more diversified thus complex. The link provided may serve as a good example or maybe something like this[2] It doesn't look clear to me what will be the interaction/relation with local ambassadors (where exist) and if it should be expressed in the "What is required of Campus Ambassadors?" part. Just one last thought, perhaps we should find a way to enforce the part of what do they get just in case someone is expecting this is a regular (paid) job. The Sun CA's get paid, but that's another ballgame. Just an idea, I don't really think of something better at this moment. Hope this could help Greetings Alejandro Acosta Fedora Ambassador / Chihuahua, MX aacosta at fedoraproject.org http://alejandroacosta.com [1] http://osum.sun.com/group/uach [2] http://www.meetup.com On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Hello All, > > I would like to get some feedback regarding the proposed program. You can > find the wiki page here: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Campus_Ambassadors > > Let the discussion begin. Any feedback is greatly appreciated, I hope to > get everything in order and announce this to the world soon. > > Thanks, > Jack > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Alejandro Acosta Fedora Ambassador / Chihuahua, MX aacosta at fedoraproject.org http://alejandroacosta.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Spect to see > some projects of mine in the next few days on your mails. > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Clint Savage wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Roy Alvear (Admin GULIX) >> wrote: >> > 2009/1/19 Bert Desmet : >> -snip >> >> *40 live cd's (20x i686, 20x x86_64) >> >> *one or two fedora posters >> >> *one or two T shirts >> >> *10 ~ 20 sheets of Fedora Stickers >> >> *10 or so fedora buttons >> > >> > What would be the cost of the kit? >> > Would you be available for Latin America? >> > >> > Thanks >> > Roy >> > >> >> Roy, >> >> In North America, the cost was approximately $40 with shipping and >> everything per kit. We're hoping to ship around 100 of these in the >> next two quarters. your mileage may vary :) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Clint >> -snip >> > I just received my Ambassador Kit today. You can view it contents at the following link. http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/GEuuv5nkc91-T9-BSSFSjQ?feat=directlink I am VERY happy with the contents. It will all come in handy at the PLUG East (LUG) talk tomorrow night. I am not presenting specifically on Fedora but I will be sure to have some of the items in hand for folks wanting them. -- Kam Salisbury http://kamsalisbury.com GPG key: FAF1751E -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lletelier at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 21 21:55:08 2009 From: lletelier at fedoraproject.org (Larry Letelier N.) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:55:08 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora 'ambassadors-kit' In-Reply-To: <818ac3c70901211346g6fddb8a4tdae5e2b1d5539795@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090114212841.17A202081FC@bastion.fedora.phx.redhat.com> <200901142235.58520.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <4973B3EB.1040300@devnox.be> <200901191222.21831.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <4974DD13.2090406@devnox.be> <8c4d97720901191635i5b1acafdoe563c756f17044f@mail.gmail.com> <1d24cdf80901200523k2b908617ld1a484a9b4b30aea@mail.gmail.com> <818ac3c70901211346g6fddb8a4tdae5e2b1d5539795@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <58956b3e96cd6de3141d815ec421cd54@localhost> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:46:30 -0500, Kam Salisbury wrote: > 2009/1/20 Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez > >> I would also love to see the ambassador kit, we could customize it for >> latam, of course if permission?s given; By the way im back, took myself > a >> long vacation I needed it, but now im back to the project. Spect to see >> some projects of mine in the next few days on your mails. >> >> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Clint Savage wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Roy Alvear (Admin GULIX) > >>> wrote: >>> > 2009/1/19 Bert Desmet : >>> -snip >>> >> *40 live cd's (20x i686, 20x x86_64) >>> >> *one or two fedora posters >>> >> *one or two T shirts >>> >> *10 ~ 20 sheets of Fedora Stickers >>> >> *10 or so fedora buttons >>> > >>> > What would be the cost of the kit? >>> > Would you be available for Latin America? >>> > >>> > Thanks >>> > Roy >>> > >>> >>> Roy, >>> >>> In North America, the cost was approximately $40 with shipping and >>> everything per kit. We're hoping to ship around 100 of these in the >>> next two quarters. your mileage may vary :) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Clint >>> -snip >>> >> > I just received my Ambassador Kit today. You can view it contents at the > following link. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/GEuuv5nkc91-T9-BSSFSjQ?feat=directlink > > I am VERY happy with the contents. It will all come in handy at the PLUG > East (LUG) talk tomorrow night. I am not presenting specifically on Fedora > but I will be sure to have some of the items in hand for folks wanting > them. > > Hi guys, escuse me but, what about Ambassador kit for latin america (Chile)? greetings. -- Larry Letelier N. lletelier at fedoraproject.org From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 21 22:15:20 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:15:20 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Message-ID: <200901212315.20970.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear Ambassadors, let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tonycrusader from Mexico https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dtavares from Brazil Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From nacross at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 04:45:42 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:45:42 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome In-Reply-To: <200901212315.20970.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200901212315.20970.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: 2009/1/21 JoergSimon : > Dear Ambassadors, > > let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tonycrusader from Mexico > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dtavares from Brazil > > Regards Joerg > I am really happy to see the LATAM Ambassadors to grow. I want to extend a warm welcome to Tony and Dtavares. -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 From oliver at linux-kernel.at Thu Jan 22 08:00:37 2009 From: oliver at linux-kernel.at (Oliver Falk) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:00:37 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fwd: Fwd: Call for Lectures/Stand: Grazer LinuxTage 2009] Message-ID: <497827A5.5020703@linux-kernel.at> Hi Gerold, David, J?rg and list! First of all; Sorry for forwarding a German mail. However. You, Germans (no offence - of course!); I don't know if you know the Grazer Linuxtage!? Well, doesn't mind, if you've never been in Graz, it's time :-P David, for you it's also a quite long travel, isn't it? Since my kids have birthday on 24th of April, I'm not sure if I can visit the Linuxtage this time. However. Maybe we should just find someone who organizes that Fedora DVDs are *there*. :-) And some poster/logo - whatever :-) I'm willing to help as good as I can - of course! Best, Oliver -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... 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Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List ;) Regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) French Fedora Ambassador ---------- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 22 11:07:29 2009 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:07:29 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thoughts Regarding Campus Ambassador Program In-Reply-To: <6ad0ab20901211148q1e7b1c1gac38e4d72909aca1@mail.gmail.com> References: <49776C63.70707@redhat.com> <6ad0ab20901211148q1e7b1c1gac38e4d72909aca1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4e08525d0901220307y536e705en7e2176a7c02a8957@mail.gmail.com> 2009/1/21 Alejandro Acosta > I believe this is a great project and it is very important to start it as > soon as possible since we have a lot of potential and talented people in > university willing to participate. > > I've had some opportunities to work with this young people and I've > witnessed some local projects been achieved. In the University of Chihuahua > (my hometown) there is already an Open Source University Meetup [1] lead by > a Sun Campus Ambassador. This doesn't mean that the field is already taken > but it just mean to express how good the chances to succed are. > > I think is important to have -provide- a more social-driven tool to > interact since the target audience in Universities is a little more > diversified thus complex. The link provided may serve as a good example or > maybe something like this[2] > > It doesn't look clear to me what will be the interaction/relation with > local ambassadors (where exist) and if it should be expressed in the "What > is required of Campus Ambassadors?" part. > > Just one last thought, perhaps we should find a way to enforce the part of > what do they get just in case someone is expecting this is a regular (paid) > job. The Sun CA's get paid, but that's another ballgame. Just an idea, I > don't really think of something better at this moment. > > Hope this could help > > Greetings > > Alejandro Acosta > Fedora Ambassador / Chihuahua, MX > aacosta at fedoraproject.org > http://alejandroacosta.com > > > [1] http://osum.sun.com/group/uach > [2] http://www.meetup.com > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > >> Hello All, >> >> I would like to get some feedback regarding the proposed program. You can >> find the wiki page here: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Campus_Ambassadors >> >> Let the discussion begin. Any feedback is greatly appreciated, I hope to >> get everything in order and announce this to the world soon. >> >> Thanks, >> Jack >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > > -- > Alejandro Acosta > Fedora Ambassador / Chihuahua, MX > aacosta at fedoraproject.org > http://alejandroacosta.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Hello, Well, as Alejandro said, I believe it could be a fantastic innitiative, but... At least if it comes about Poland, there are let's call it SIGs on campuses here, inter alia those related to Linux. What my concern is, how to connect the both groups and how to cooperate with them. Because by then we would be the only distribution which has such project running on campuses. Of course it would be a kind of honor to be part of such innitiative... my doubt is if it wouldn't be duplication of work, and you know, these voices that we're trying to make our own way of promoting Open Source... :) Althouth by then we could be the pace setting side ones, and that could be the fantastic side... ;) I hope you know what I mean :D Cheers, Pawel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From osamakhn at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 11:56:52 2009 From: osamakhn at gmail.com (Osama Khan) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:56:52 +0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thoughts Regarding Campus Ambassador Program In-Reply-To: <49776C63.70707@redhat.com> References: <49776C63.70707@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4bb4ddb10901220356g72bb7eb1j6611d3d7bca0b6f5@mail.gmail.com> Hi, This would really help the whole fedora ideology and really help spread the work. We have google ambassadors, microsoft student partners who really spread the shit technology around. So why not have our open source reps all around. mozilla has also added campus reps to its programs. I am ready to help you in spreading the word across pakistan. Am already a mozilla rep. Was a microsoft rep till i realized where the real computing was done on this side of the crowd :) -- Regards. 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You, Germans (no offence - of course!); I don't know if you > know the Grazer Linuxtage!? Well, doesn't mind, if you've never been in > Graz, it's time :-P > > David, for you it's also a quite long travel, isn't it? > > Since my kids have birthday on 24th of April, I'm not sure if I can > visit the Linuxtage this time. > > However. Maybe we should just find someone who organizes that Fedora > DVDs are *there*. :-) And some poster/logo - whatever :-) > > I'm willing to help as good as I can - of course! > > Best, > Oliver > E-Mail-Nachricht-Anlage (Fwd: Call for Lectures/Stand: Grazer > LinuxTage 2009.eml) > > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > > Von: Kevin Kofler > > An: oliver at linux-kernel.at, rehcla at fedoraproject.org > > Betreff: Fwd: Call for Lectures/Stand: Grazer LinuxTage 2009 > > Datum: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:36:33 +0100 > > > > einfaches Textdokument-Anlage (Fwd: Call for Lectures/Stand: Grazer > > LinuxTage 2009.eml) > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > > > > >Subject: Call for Lectures/Stand: Grazer LinuxTage 2009 > > >Date: Wednesday 21 January 2009 > > >From: Kevin Krammer > > >To: "Stephenson, Will" , "Kofler, Kevin" > > > > > > Hi Leute, > > > > ich bin mal so frech und schicke unseren Aufruf an euch beide als meine > > openSUSE und Fedora Kontakte. > > > > Vielleicht knnt ihr das an die fr sterreichische Community zustndigen > > Stellen weiterleiten. > > > > Falls neben Vortrag/Infostand irgendwelches Infomaterial fr die > > Besuchertaschen vorhanden sein sollte, bitte auch an uns melden (siehe CC). > > Mssen ja nicht nur die CDs von Ubuntu drinnen sein ;) > > > > Ciao, > > Kevin > > > > ----------- > > Hallo! > > > > Die Grazer LinuxTage 2009 (GLT09) rcken nher. > > > > http://www.linuxtage.at/ > > > > Die Grazer LinuxTage werden am Samstag, den 25. April 2009 wie schon > > bisher auf der FH Joanneum stattfinden. Wir suchen natrlich auch > > heuer wieder gute Vortrge. Vor Kurzem ist Call for Lectures online > > gegangen. Du willst deine Software unter die Leute bringen? Es gibt > > ein gutes Projekt das unbedingt prsentiert gehrt? Dann halte doch > > einen Vortrag auf den GLT09! > > > > http://www.linuxtage.at/cfl/ > > > > Es muss brigens nicht zwingend mit Linux zusammenhngen, die Grazer > > LinuxTage sind bekannt fr ein breit gefchertes Programm: > > Community, Internet/Netzwerke, Projektmanagement im Open > > Source-Umfeld, andere freie Betriebssystem, sind ebenfalls gern > > gesehene Themen. > > > > Natrlich sind auch wieder Community-Stnde geplant. > > ----------- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From hagr182 at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 13:15:17 2009 From: hagr182 at gmail.com (Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:15:17 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome In-Reply-To: References: <200901212315.20970.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1d24cdf80901220515o6a880797t7695a9989dccd6dc@mail.gmail.com> nice to see new ambassadors for my region, we are growing, tough we need more cohesion instead of working each by its own, so please consider that as you enter the world of fedora; Welcome. On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Neville A. Cross wrote: > 2009/1/21 JoergSimon : > > Dear Ambassadors, > > > > let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tonycrusader from Mexico > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dtavares from Brazil > > > > Regards Joerg > > > > I am really happy to see the LATAM Ambassadors to grow. I want to > extend a warm welcome to Tony and Dtavares. > > -- > Neville > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v > Linux User # 473217 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Any feedback is greatly appreciated, I hope to > get everything in order and announce this to the world soon. > > Thanks, > Jack > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From linux.rafa at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 14:44:04 2009 From: linux.rafa at gmail.com (Rafael Gomes) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:44:04 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome In-Reply-To: <1d24cdf80901220515o6a880797t7695a9989dccd6dc@mail.gmail.com> References: <200901212315.20970.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1d24cdf80901220515o6a880797t7695a9989dccd6dc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7256ccd50901220644k37aa709cq7c4984843804e5ab@mail.gmail.com> Dtavares, Did you already enter in Brazilian Ambassador List? If not, come on! :P https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-mktg-brazil Let me know if you have any problem Thanks Rafael Gomes Consultor em TI Embaixador Fedora LPIC-1 (71) 8146-5772 > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Neville A. Cross wrote: > >> 2009/1/21 JoergSimon : >> > Dear Ambassadors, >> > >> > let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: >> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tonycrusader from Mexico >> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dtavares from Brazil >> > >> > Regards Joerg >> > >> >> I am really happy to see the LATAM Ambassadors to grow. I want to >> extend a warm welcome to Tony and Dtavares. >> >> -- >> Neville >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v >> Linux User # 473217 >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From r.dushyanth at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 14:45:52 2009 From: r.dushyanth at gmail.com (Dushyanth R) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:15:52 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thoughts Regarding Campus Ambassador Message-ID: <84a6e1e90901220645o5f0309edh48e36edd0cad63dc@mail.gmail.com> Hi everyone, >> > Hello, > > Well, as Alejandro said, I believe it could be a fantastic innitiative, > but... At least if it comes about Poland, there are let's call it SIGs on > campuses here, inter alia those related to Linux. What my concern is, how to > connect the both groups and how to cooperate with them. Because by then we > would be the only distribution which has such project running on campuses. > Of course it would be a kind of honor to be part of such innitiative... my > doubt is if it wouldn't be duplication of work, and you know, these voices > that we're trying to make our own way of promoting Open Source... :) > Althouth by then we could be the pace setting side ones, and that could be > the fantastic side... ;) I hope you know what I mean :D > > Cheers, > Pawel > I too believe the Campus Ambassadors Program (CAmP) is a great initiative. As a new ambassador(on probation) myself and a second year undergraduate student i can relate to how much this can be a boost to us students. But the CAmP needs to have certain parameters of evaluation. Having one tech talk per sem seems very vague. In a scenario where the CAm is changed every year(say), Then won't it be the case that the same talk or something similar is held everytime-- will that also count as a tech talk. I have seen it happen - always the same talk on why switch to linux, how to install linux system, etc given time and again in here So guys any ideas on how to evaluate if a CAm is working or not.? On what basis are the goodies for an event decided? Is it solely on the ambassador's request? how do we know that an ambassador is getting across to the targeted audience? what are the resources at his disposal? And on what parameters is a CAm chosen- Knowledge...PR skills...in a scenario where there are multiple candidates from the same institute? Also there should be some way of rewarding CAms who go out of their way, out of their campuses to spread the word to the world outside. Also questions will be raised as Pawel said- do we have separate CAms for Ubuntu, Fedora, etc. Sure we may be first now, but what will happen later? I mean it portrays a disorganized Linux to the outside world, Another point of contention is : I do think we don't need a separate IRC channel. It would be better attended and coordinated if held under fedora-ambassador umbrella itself..That way if we blurt out or mess up in organizing anything, other experienced ambassadors can catch us and help us, correct us, suggest us,etc. In the separate irc channel scenario, if we do mess up, we won't even know it until the event comes up. In the preliminary stages at least the separate irc channel has no meaning. Once the program reaches maturity with more experience and stuff, then we can put up a different channel. regards R Dhushyanth p.s- hope the post is not awfully long and illogical From dkd903 at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 14:47:39 2009 From: dkd903 at gmail.com (Debjit Saha) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:17:39 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 10 Reference Cheatsheet Message-ID: Here is a good Fedora 10 Cheatsheet, basically a quick reference guide: link- http://digitizor.wordpress.com/2009/01/22/fedora-10-reference-cheatsheet/ From herlo1 at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 15:36:00 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:36:00 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thoughts Regarding Campus Ambassador In-Reply-To: <84a6e1e90901220645o5f0309edh48e36edd0cad63dc@mail.gmail.com> References: <84a6e1e90901220645o5f0309edh48e36edd0cad63dc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Dushyanth R wrote: > Hi everyone, > >>> >> Hello, >> >> Well, as Alejandro said, I believe it could be a fantastic innitiative, >> but... At least if it comes about Poland, there are let's call it SIGs on >> campuses here, inter alia those related to Linux. What my concern is, how to >> connect the both groups and how to cooperate with them. Because by then we >> would be the only distribution which has such project running on campuses. >> Of course it would be a kind of honor to be part of such innitiative... my >> doubt is if it wouldn't be duplication of work, and you know, these voices >> that we're trying to make our own way of promoting Open Source... :) >> Althouth by then we could be the pace setting side ones, and that could be >> the fantastic side... ;) I hope you know what I mean :D >> >> Cheers, >> Pawel > >> > I too believe the Campus Ambassadors Program (CAmP) is a great > initiative. As a new ambassador(on probation) myself and a second year > undergraduate student i can relate to how much this can be a boost to > us students. I love the acronym! We should use this everywhere can. Of course, when we market it, it's good to have it explained. Cheers, Clint From tomasz.szymanek at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 15:43:32 2009 From: tomasz.szymanek at gmail.com (Tomasz Szymanek) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:43:32 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] fair question Message-ID: <68e221370901220743ge052ab4x706fd72ebae62c05@mail.gmail.com> How to approve my status in ambassadors group? I've done all steps, and i wait for approvement. I'll be grateful for any response. Tom 'Deathgazer' Szymanek -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul at paulmellors.net Thu Jan 22 15:55:55 2009 From: paul at paulmellors.net (Paul Mellors) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:55:55 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] fair question In-Reply-To: <68e221370901220743ge052ab4x706fd72ebae62c05@mail.gmail.com> References: <68e221370901220743ge052ab4x706fd72ebae62c05@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4978970B.6080708@paulmellors.net> How to approve my status in ambassadors group? I've done all steps, and i wait for approvement. Hi Tomasz When i went through the process i filled in the forms subscribed to the mailing lists then waited, i was then approved....I think a little patience is needed :) [sorry don't mean to sound rude] Paul From nacross at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 16:20:41 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:20:41 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thoughts Regarding Campus Ambassador In-Reply-To: <84a6e1e90901220645o5f0309edh48e36edd0cad63dc@mail.gmail.com> References: <84a6e1e90901220645o5f0309edh48e36edd0cad63dc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Dushyanth R wrote: > But the CAmP needs to have certain parameters of evaluation. > Having one tech talk per sem seems very vague. In a scenario where the > CAm is changed every year(say), Then won't it be the case that the > same talk or something similar is held everytime-- will that also > count as a tech talk. I have seen it happen - always the same talk on > why switch to linux, how to install linux system, etc given time and > again in here > I think that it is needed to evaluate the audience that the talk is directed to. If you have fresh people you may want to repeat the "why fedora" talk. But you can not repeat that talk to those people again, and there is where life get rough. It is no easy way to separate people at college, to see which need talk 1 and which are ready for talk 2. What I mean is not bad to repeat the talk, it bad to repeat it to the same people. I love the acronym. I wish I was still at college! If the program is approved I will try to enrol college people for join this program. Congratulations, this is a nice idea. -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 22 16:53:17 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (Joerg Simon) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:53:17 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] fair question In-Reply-To: <68e221370901220743ge052ab4x706fd72ebae62c05@mail.gmail.com> References: <68e221370901220743ge052ab4x706fd72ebae62c05@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200901221753.25588.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> On Thursday 22 January 2009 16:43:32 Tomasz Szymanek wrote: > How to approve my status in ambassadors group? I've done all steps, and i > wait for approvement. > I'll be grateful for any response. i did not received a message that you have finished the steps as mentioned. Now that you have send this as a public message it is fine for me and i will work me through the list in the next hours. CU Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From bpowell01 at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 17:00:09 2009 From: bpowell01 at gmail.com (Brian Powell) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:00:09 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thoughts Regarding Campus Ambassador Program In-Reply-To: <49776C63.70707@redhat.com> References: <49776C63.70707@redhat.com> Message-ID: <96365e610901220900g2e9ce970j257a274fc4e15787@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Hello All, > > I would like to get some feedback regarding the proposed program. You can > find the wiki page here: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Campus_Ambassadors > > Let the discussion begin. Any feedback is greatly appreciated, I hope to > get everything in order and announce this to the world soon. > > Thanks, > Jack > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > I would gladly help get this initiative off the ground in my area. There are numerous colleges in my area that I have already done Fedora presentations at or plan to in the near future so I already have inside contacts, so this would just be an extension of what I am already currently doing. Look forward to the activation of the mailing list and participating in this. -- Regards, Brian Powell http://fedoraproject.org http://wnylug.org From rod085 at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 17:18:23 2009 From: rod085 at gmail.com (Rodrigo Fonseca) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:18:23 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thoughts Regarding Campus Ambassador Program In-Reply-To: <1d24cdf80901220556n17f7289ar5eb6cd477c24c3d6@mail.gmail.com> References: <49776C63.70707@redhat.com> <1d24cdf80901220556n17f7289ar5eb6cd477c24c3d6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <97b7b6770901220918t15906539i952648f22c7d1b58@mail.gmail.com> That's why I joined the ambassadors project. I am student and i would like to bring the open-souce spirit to my campus. There are two big universities here in my city in Brazil, and both have computer cience course. I know that there is already an iniciative from some students who created an small open-source comunity here, but i've never talk to them (until now). So, I'm too waiting for the activation of this mailing list. PS: Sorry for the bad english. It has been a long time that I dont practice... Rodrigo -- Intelligence without ambition is a bird without wings. --Salvador Dali -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Also redhat is already being used in most of the labs also being a fedora rep i have spread the word about fedora to some extent that the business management students who are not really very techy are using fedora as they are sick of viruses or some liked openoffice and shifted to it. 90% of my campus already uses firefox. so we would love the pizzas in our labs late in the nights just before the project submission date ;) I am also more interested coz till now all the focus in this region has been in india and here we are not rally able to get hold of the free media. Till now i have distributed the media through downloading and creating multiple copies Please update me how i can help to spread the opensource word in Pakistan which is an emerging market with 17million internet users. -- Regards. Osama Khan Institute of Business Administration Karachi, Pakistan cell:(92)33-33-52-48-84 email: osamakhn at gmail.com blog:osama-khan.blogspot.com wiki:http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Osamakhn From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Jan 22 18:25:01 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:25:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] pre-FOSDEM meeting on IRC Message-ID: I would like to have an IRC meeting for everyone who is attending FOSDEM to answer questions, give information, etc. I propose Thursday January 29 at 19:00 UTC. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Jan 22 18:30:01 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:30:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: pre-FOSDEM meeting on IRC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Max Spevack wrote: > I would like to have an IRC meeting for everyone who is attending > FOSDEM to answer questions, give information, etc. > > I propose Thursday January 29 at 19:00 UTC. This would also represent that "second meeting per month" of EMEA Ambassadors. I think FOSDEM is the proper agenda topic for a second, focused meeting. --Max From angel at linux.org.bd Thu Jan 22 18:39:10 2009 From: angel at linux.org.bd (Angel) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:39:10 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Report: Fedora Infinity Day 2009 Message-ID: Hi, Here is the event report of Fedora Infinity Day 2009: http://angel.linux.org.bd/?p=8 . Pictures from the event: http://picasaweb.google.com/rahmanangel/FedoraInfinityDay2009 . -- Angel GPG key: 0x34001F46 Bangladesh Linux Users Alliance Fedora Ambassador Bangladesh http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Angel Fedora -- Freedom? and rapid innovation -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cross" Subj: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Date: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:46 pm Size: 621 bytes To: jsimon at fedoraproject.org; fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com 2009/1/21 JoergSimon : > Dear Ambassadors, > > let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tonycrusader from Mexico > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dtavares from Brazil > > Regards Joerg > I am really happy to see the LATAM Ambassadors to grow. I want to extend a warm welcome to Tony and Dtavares. -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 22 21:35:34 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:35:34 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Message-ID: <200901222235.35166.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear Ambassadors, let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Deathgazer from Silesia, Poland https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Thuth from Neubiberg, Germany https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Debasis from Bhubaneswar, India Regards Joerg p.s. 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URL: From bpowell01 at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 21:47:23 2009 From: bpowell01 at gmail.com (Brian Powell) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:47:23 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] TCF2009 April 25 & 26 In-Reply-To: <4978d49f.8905be0a.38a0.ffff9e05@mx.google.com> References: <4978d49f.8905be0a.38a0.ffff9e05@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <96365e610901221347n13f40c76k3d042549336cfc38@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Kam wrote: > I have submitted a speaker application (poster session) for the upcoming 34th Annual Trenton Computer Festival, April 25 and 26 2009 held in Ewing New Jersey USA. If approved, I will speak about Fedora in general and distribute live media. I am unsure if I will have need of an event box at this time. > > http://tcf-nj.org > > If any other Ambassadors are planning on attending the festival, please let me know off list. You are welcome to help speak, present or even just say Hello. It would be great to meet you. > > -- > Kam > http://kamsalisbury.com > GPG key: FAF1751E > Kam, Make sure you add this to the Fedora events page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents. I will see what my schedule is like around this time to see if I can make this or not. -- Regards, Brian Powell http://fedoraproject.org http://wnylug.org From hagr182 at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 22:46:24 2009 From: hagr182 at gmail.com (Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:46:24 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Campus Ambassadors / Embajadores en campu Message-ID: <1d24cdf80901221446p4004baafv4b339bc807407727@mail.gmail.com> Well im really exited about the campus ambassadors projects, as a matter of fact I already proposed it to one of my school?s directives (Director of IT related careers on ITESM Campus Saltillo) and we deffinetively are interested, as a matter of fact this mail comes as a request to ask when does this project starts and any other tidbit you may have for us, this is going to be the first open source project on school, even tough we do have some big time open source fans. 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Also redhat is already being > used in most of the labs also being a fedora rep i have spread the > word about fedora to some extent that the business management students > who are not really very techy are using fedora as they are sick of > viruses or some liked openoffice and shifted to it. 90% of my campus > already uses firefox. so we would love the pizzas in our labs late in > the nights just before the project submission date ;) > I am also more interested coz till now all the focus in this region > has been in india and here we are not rally able to get hold of the > free media. Till now i have distributed the media through downloading > and creating multiple copies > > Please update me how i can help to spread the opensource word in > Pakistan which is an emerging market with 17million internet users. > I'd love to be alive the day we will be using Fedora or RHEL on campuses here in Poland. Where I'm studying now (Warsaw University of Technology), they use (and so we're made to use this s*it) Solaris... :/ As I've mentioned in my last mail, we have some SIGs related to Linux at universities here, but at least if it comes about my university, they don't seem to act a lot as I haven't heard of any of their innitiatives so far. But, for contrast, I've seen some announcment related to M$ (invitation for "Microsoft's technology fans" or something like this) somewhere in a hall. But I'm pretty sure that if it's managed to be run, there would be some feedback to this project. I'll be looking forward how the things evolve at the project's website :) Cheers and good luck, Pawel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've done all steps, and i > wait for approvement. > > > Hi Tomasz > > When i went through the process i filled in the forms subscribed to the > mailing lists then waited, i was then approved....I think a little patience > is needed :) [sorry don't mean to sound rude] > > Paul > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Ok, I'm 'approved'! I'm so proud of it, i always wanted work for a great enterprise like Fedora Project. I'll try to spread Fedora Project Ideas in my local envoirment, like school Thanks for your response, Tomasz Szymanek -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I want to see what people think (like you) :) Regards Francesco Ugolini From bamirthampr at in.com Sat Jan 24 04:44:32 2009 From: bamirthampr at in.com (Amirtham purendra raman bala) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:14:32 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] About fedora DVD distribution In-Reply-To: <1232772177.af9c0e0c1dee63e5acad8b7ed1a5be96@mail.in.com> Message-ID: <1232772272.0fbce6c74ff376d18cb352e7fdc6273b@mail.in.com> How to distribute free DVD request came to me -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbenedictlow at gmail.com Sat Jan 24 05:12:46 2009 From: jbenedictlow at gmail.com (Jason Benedict Low) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:12:46 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] About fedora DVD distribution In-Reply-To: <1232772272.0fbce6c74ff376d18cb352e7fdc6273b@mail.in.com> References: <1232772272.0fbce6c74ff376d18cb352e7fdc6273b@mail.in.com> Message-ID: <497AA34E.5090507@gmail.com> burn a it to dvd and post it to the requester. ;-) Amirtham purendra raman bala wrote: > > How to distribute free DVD request came to me > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Best Regards, Jason http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jason_Benedict_Low VoIP = sip:jasonbenedict at fedoraproject.org ------ When i work nobody care. 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FOSDEM is _the_ big budget task for this quarter: there are lots of travel sponsorships and Max will need to collect them during the event, as this should be done before the end of RedHat Q4 (mid February). Max also expects to finance the being prepared FAD in India. The topic of how to finance LATAM is asked by Rodrigo Padula. From Max point of view, this topic is really a big one and long discussion on how dealing with this financing will have to be done soon. From his point of view, RedHat has to bet much more involved in this topic, which would avoid creating a legal entity in LATAM, as Rodrigo suggested. 2. Review current tasks and Define/discuss tasks' deadine Mentoring task is then being discussed. As there are already regional mentors, the idea of giving them the task and, if needed, tools to handle it. David Nalley pointed out that he has planned to attend Marketing meeting this week. Rodrigo Padula added he is waiting from local RedHat to go forward on his task on LATAM events. 4. Migration to new freemedia system, approval and issues. About the migration to new freemedia system, handled by Susmit, it is ready to go and waiting for approval from both infrastructure team (that he has now) and the board. Rodrigo Padula asked for translation of the Freemedia System. 5. Having a git repo for ambassador scripts. Tasks review is then being discussed. The main topic is the settlement of the GIT system and the packaging of scripts to automate the creation of stats for Ambassadors. However, Susmit added his doubt about having a new and separate GIT repo for them, as the Project already have GIT repos. Maybe they can be used in that purpose as well. Migrating to trac the Ambassador membership system is being worked on and is scheduled for February. Francesco adjourned the meeting. Thanks for reading and see you next week. 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Februar 2009 um: 16:00 h im: Der kleine Vogel http://www.vogelbraeu.de/karlsruhe/2_1_1.html Sinn und Zweck des FRT soll es sein, lokale Gruppen zu f?rdern, zu unterst?tzen und selbst ins Gespr?ch zu kommen. Dieser FRT wird regelm??ig alle ZWEI MONATE im s?ddeutschen Raum (KA, S, FR) durchgef?hrt und soll ein 1/2 bis 3/4 Tag sein. Wer definitiv am ERSTEN FRT (weltweit) dabei sein m?chte, melde sich bitte per E-Mail entweder bei Robert oder mir (bis zum 20.02.09) an! Gruss Gerold + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Hi there, after spoken with Robert, we decided: The first FRT (Fedora Round Table) in German a regular's table will take place as follows at: 2008-02-28 time: 16:00 local time where: "Der kleine Vogel" http://www.vogelbraeu.de/karlsruhe/2_1_1.html Target audience and goal of the FRT should be, that we want to support local groups, come together, get in touch and also to meet each other in person. 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Best regards, Pierre From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Sat Jan 24 23:06:58 2009 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:06:58 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1930UTC #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20090125000658.1b72b4f3@mrtomlinux.org> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2009-01-25 / 19:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (25 jan.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'h?sitez pas ? le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent int?ressants. Thomas Canniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Both Greg and Alex has good sessions with lots of interaction from the attendees. Around 2pm we broke for lunch, and after seeing no further compelling sessions we left around 4pm. From frankly3d at fedoraproject.org Sun Jan 25 07:37:08 2009 From: frankly3d at fedoraproject.org (Frank Murphy) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:37:08 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] About fedora DVD distribution In-Reply-To: <1232772272.0fbce6c74ff376d18cb352e7fdc6273b@mail.in.com> References: <1232772272.0fbce6c74ff376d18cb352e7fdc6273b@mail.in.com> Message-ID: <497C16A4.3010705@fedoraproject.org> Amirtham purendra raman bala wrote: > How to distribute free DVD request came to me > If you are not in a position to burn it yourself, maybe you don't have a dvd-burner?. Try contacting someone from the freemedia program (India), Frank From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Sun Jan 25 18:08:02 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (Joerg Simon) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:08:02 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fwd: Fwd: Call for Lectures/Stand: Grazer LinuxTage 2009] In-Reply-To: <497827A5.5020703@linux-kernel.at> References: <497827A5.5020703@linux-kernel.at> Message-ID: <200901251908.02528.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> On Thursday 22 January 2009 09:00:37 Oliver Falk wrote: > Hi Gerold, David, J?rg and list! > First of all; Sorry for forwarding a German mail. > However. You, Germans (no offence - of course!); I don't know if you > know the Grazer Linuxtage!? Well, doesn't mind, if you've never been in > Graz, it's time :-P You are right - i will find out if i can combine it with a citytrip to graz - i let you know in the next two weeks. cu Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From Matt_Domsch at Dell.com Mon Jan 26 17:11:06 2009 From: Matt_Domsch at Dell.com (Matt_Domsch at Dell.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:11:06 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FW: 2009 Symposium Message-ID: Andrew Hutton, organizer of the Linux Symposium (formerly in Ottawa, for the next 2 years in Montreal), has invited Fedora to host some form of event concurrent with this year's Symposium, the week of July 13. There was some positive interest on this when brought up in December, but then it went silent. Is anyone willing to take this on and drive such an event? -- Matt Domsch Linux Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux -----Original Message----- From: Andrew J. Hutton [mailto:ajh at linuxsymposium.org] Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 10:48 AM To: Domsch, Matt Subject: 2009 Symposium I would love to pick up on the idea of hosting FedoraCon here in Montreal (I'm actually here for the weekend) and try to get something firmed up if possible. From herlo1 at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 17:22:45 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:22:45 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] FW: 2009 Symposium In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, wrote: > Andrew Hutton, organizer of the Linux Symposium (formerly in Ottawa, for the next 2 years in Montreal), has invited Fedora to host some form of event concurrent with this year's Symposium, the week of July 13. There was some positive interest on this when brought up in December, but then it went silent. Is anyone willing to take this on and drive such an event? > I don't recall the previous conversation, but since Max has been suggesting FADs[1] (Fedora Activity Day)[2], this might be a good fit. Thoughts? Clint 1 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_-_FAD 2 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_organize_a_FAD From inode0 at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 17:28:40 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:28:40 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FW: 2009 Symposium In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:11 AM, wrote: > Andrew Hutton, organizer of the Linux Symposium (formerly in Ottawa, for the next 2 years in Montreal), has invited Fedora to host some form of event concurrent with this year's Symposium, the week of July 13. There was some positive interest on this when brought up in December, but then it went silent. Is anyone willing to take this on and drive such an event? Matt, Actually at last week's FAmNA meeting this was discussed and we have an ambassador in Canada close to having his schedule adjusted to allow him to attend and work on this event. You were to be contacted soonish once a few lingering details were resolved if I recall correctly. John From dduval at redhat.com Mon Jan 26 17:36:30 2009 From: dduval at redhat.com (Dominic Duval) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:36:30 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FW: 2009 Symposium In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <497DF49E.5040602@redhat.com> Matt_Domsch at Dell.com wrote: > Andrew Hutton, organizer of the Linux Symposium (formerly in Ottawa, for the next 2 years in Montreal), has invited Fedora to host some form of event concurrent with this year's Symposium, the week of July 13. There was some positive interest on this when brought up in December, but then it went silent. Is anyone willing to take this on and drive such an event? I live close to Montreal and can help with logistics if needed. I will be attending the Linux Symposium too. -Dominic -- Dominic Duval, RHCE/RHCX dduval at redhat.com Consultant, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/dduval 917-623-4684 (New York City) 514-581-7975 (Montreal) IT executives: Red Hat #1 in value. Again. http://www.redhat.com/promo/vendor/ From jaa at redhat.com Mon Jan 26 17:41:17 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:41:17 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FW: 2009 Symposium In-Reply-To: <497DF49E.5040602@redhat.com> References: <497DF49E.5040602@redhat.com> Message-ID: <497DF5BD.70504@redhat.com> Dominic Duval wrote: > I live close to Montreal and can help with logistics if needed. I will be attending the > Linux Symposium too. > > Sounds good. Is there a wiki page up for the symposium? If so maybe we want to go ahead and add something about this on there or create a new page if nothing exists? Jack From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Jan 26 19:53:46 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:53:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] pre-FOSDEM meeting on IRC In-Reply-To: <20090124103318.6892f906@mrtomlinux.org> References: <20090124103318.6892f906@mrtomlinux.org> Message-ID: On Sat, 24 Jan 2009, Thomas Canniot wrote: >> I propose Thursday January 29 at 19:00 UTC. > > Is there any agenda ready for this meeting ? It will be about a 30 minute meeting just to go over all the details and answer any questions that people have. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Jan 26 19:58:33 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:58:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM IRC chat (Thu 19:00 UTC) In-Reply-To: References: <20090124103318.6892f906@mrtomlinux.org> Message-ID: > It will be about a 30 minute meeting just to go over all the details > and answer any questions that people have. For those of you who can make it, we'll meet in #fedora-ambassadors and discuss various logistics around FOSDEM. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FOSDEM/FOSDEM2009 --Max From poelstra at redhat.com Mon Jan 26 22:10:37 2009 From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:10:37 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fwd: Alpha Release Readiness] Message-ID: <497E34DD.9080404@redhat.com> So far I have not heard from anyone from the Ambassadors team. I need a representative to add to the call-in email ASAP. John ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ With the Alpha Release for Fedora 11 scheduled for Tuesday, February 3, 2009, this means it is time to meet again with representatives from each of the teams to have our release readiness meeting. We usually have this meeting at 18:00 UTC (13:00 EST) the Wednesday before, which means next Wednesday, January 28, 2009, is the day. On Monday, January 26, 2009, I will be sending out the dial-in information and a meeting reminder to all the attendees. In the meantime I need to know who will be representing your group at these meetings for the Fedora 11 meetings. Usually this is the designated team leader, but I wanted to ask to make sure you coordinate within your team to make sure someone comes. When responding to this list, please CC me so that I am sure to see the reply. This message is going out to the respective mailings lists for these groups: Ambassadors Artwork/Design Documentation FESCo Infrastructure Marketing Quality Release Engineering Translation Websites Thanks, John From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Jan 26 22:17:34 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:17:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fwd: Alpha Release Readiness] In-Reply-To: <497E34DD.9080404@redhat.com> References: <497E34DD.9080404@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Jan 2009, John Poelstra wrote: > So far I have not heard from anyone from the Ambassadors team. I need > a representative to add to the call-in email ASAP. Normally this would be me, John, but I am double-booked with another meeting. I assume that Karsten will be representing Docs, and I'll ask him to represent Ambassadors as well, and fill me in on whatever I need to know. Thanks, Max From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Mon Jan 26 22:25:12 2009 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:25:12 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fwd: Alpha Release Readiness] In-Reply-To: References: <497E34DD.9080404@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jan 2009, John Poelstra wrote: > >> So far I have not heard from anyone from the Ambassadors team. I need a >> representative to add to the call-in email ASAP. > > Normally this would be me, John, but I am double-booked with another > meeting. I assume that Karsten will be representing Docs, and I'll ask him > to represent Ambassadors as well, and fill me in on whatever I need to know. > > Thanks, > Max > I opened the discussion in FAmSCo list the same day you sent the invite, asking someone with good skill in oral english to give an hand. BTW, as many of us suggested Max and he is pointing to Karsten, FAmSCo will give him all the informations about what we are planning and what we will expect this release cycle. Thank you Francesco Ugolini From stickster at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 22:30:34 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:30:34 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAD at SCALE7x Message-ID: <20090126223034.GQ14131@localhost.localdomain> I'm overjoyed that we've already got a great page up for the proposed FAD at SCALE7x: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x Can I get anyone to write a couple sentences for each of the bullet points ("Packaging fonts," "Documentation") that tell attendees the specific goals of FAD at SCALE7x? This will be used in a press release that Red Hat's press team is preparing. They want to include details, along with a link to that page. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From hagr182 at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 23:45:24 2009 From: hagr182 at gmail.com (Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:45:24 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fwd: Alpha Release Readiness] In-Reply-To: <497E34DD.9080404@redhat.com> References: <497E34DD.9080404@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1d24cdf80901261545w2cfa4c08p874052fdf2c82d35@mail.gmail.com> I am an ambassador, tough I cant take the responsability of representing the group as I just entered the project moreless a year ago; However I would like to be there to learn, Could I possibly attend? On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:10 PM, John Poelstra wrote: > > So far I have not heard from anyone from the Ambassadors team. I need a > representative to add to the call-in email ASAP. > > John > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > With the Alpha Release for Fedora 11 scheduled for Tuesday, February 3, > 2009, this means it is time to meet again with representatives from each > of the teams to have our release readiness meeting. We usually have > this meeting at 18:00 UTC (13:00 EST) the Wednesday before, which means > next Wednesday, January 28, 2009, is the day. > > On Monday, January 26, 2009, I will be sending out the dial-in > information and a meeting reminder to all the attendees. > > In the meantime I need to know who will be representing your group at > these meetings for the Fedora 11 meetings. Usually this is the > designated team leader, but I wanted to ask to make sure you coordinate > within your team to make sure someone comes. 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URL: From matt at domsch.com Tue Jan 27 04:26:31 2009 From: matt at domsch.com (Matt Domsch) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:26:31 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Promoting Fedora in the Boston Area Inquiry In-Reply-To: <68f54c2a0901161315r778e630em5974ddedeece0525@mail.gmail.com> References: <68f54c2a0901161315r778e630em5974ddedeece0525@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090127042631.GA15703@domsch.com> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 04:15:53PM -0500, Mark McLaughlin wrote: > Hello, what can I do to promote Fedora in the Boston area beyond > mentioning it in a Linux Users Group, free advertising is GREAT but what > avenue is there? Bill Cattey has been trying to get a Fedora Users Group off the ground at MIT for a few months. Perhaps you can help this effort? From herlo at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 27 06:01:18 2009 From: herlo at fedoraproject.org (Clint Savage) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:01:18 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAD at SCALE7x In-Reply-To: <20090126223034.GQ14131@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090126223034.GQ14131@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > I'm overjoyed that we've already got a great page up for the proposed > FAD at SCALE7x: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x > > Can I get anyone to write a couple sentences for each of the bullet > points ("Packaging fonts," "Documentation") that tell attendees the > specific goals of FAD at SCALE7x? This will be used in a press > release that Red Hat's press team is preparing. They want to include > details, along with a link to that page. > As far as I know, both activities will go on simultaneously. We're going to be in the Kennedy room and we'll be doing Packaging of Fonts in one corner and in the other corner will be the great Docs master Karsten Wade doing something amazing. I've updated the FAD SCALE[1] wiki page with a schedule and short description for the packaging event, hopefully Karsten and/or Larry Cafiero can complete the documentation component. Cheers, Clint 1 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 27 08:15:32 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:15:32 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Message-ID: <200901270915.32710.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear Ambassadors, let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jpirie23 from Edinburgh, Scotland/UK https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Aalonso from Mexico https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Iuridiniz from Mexico Regards Joerg p.s. 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URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Tue Jan 27 11:31:53 2009 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:31:53 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fwd: Alpha Release Readiness] In-Reply-To: <1d24cdf80901261545w2cfa4c08p874052fdf2c82d35@mail.gmail.com> References: <497E34DD.9080404@redhat.com> <1d24cdf80901261545w2cfa4c08p874052fdf2c82d35@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2009/1/27 Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez : > I am an ambassador, tough I cant take the responsability of representing the > group as I just entered the project moreless a year ago; However I would > like to be there to learn, Could I possibly attend? > John sent the email in Ambassadors List, and he did right. BTW, FAmSCo, as representing body of Ambassadors and coordinator of Release Events initiative, had a deep discussion in its list and thought at Max, as FAmSCo member and, logicically, as community representative, with his great speaking and big experience (we publicly would have discuss about it during this Thursday IRC meeting). It's a honour to see people, like you Hector, interested in taking responsibility in the project. FAmSCo is really paying attention to this amazing availability in order to give ambassadors, who gave their availability and passion, to handle important and key activities. So, stay sure we will start soon talking about Release Events and how to organize them and, if you want, you will take part of this amazing and crucial initiative. Remember: Ambassadors Project without ambassadors community is worth nothing: We need all of you in order to achieve results and to give Fedora its right representation and value. Thank you for your precious availability Francesco Ugolini p.s. I invite people to take a look at fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/TasksList in order to have a better look to what FAmSCo is doing and is planning to do soon (it's schematic but it's 10000 words worth). From charlymanja at yahoo.com.mx Tue Jan 27 14:55:11 2009 From: charlymanja at yahoo.com.mx (Charly Manjarrez) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:55:11 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome In-Reply-To: <200901270915.32710.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200901270915.32710.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <497F204F.10301@yahoo.com.mx> JoergSimon wrote: > Dear Ambassadors, > > let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jpirie23 from Edinburgh, Scotland/UK > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Aalonso from Mexico > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Iuridiniz from Mexico > > > Regards Joerg > p.s. 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URL: From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 17:08:22 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:08:22 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Docs at Fedora Activity Day (FAD) [SCaLE 7x 20 Feb.] In-Reply-To: <20090127165636.GJ4822@calliope.phig.org> References: <20090119232505.GD20940@calliope.phig.org> <20090127165636.GJ4822@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Karsten Wade wrote: > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 03:25:05PM -0800, Karsten Wade wrote: > >> * User Guide for F10 -- all wiki work, can use the Ambassador hardware >> as systems to write from. > > Left to my own devices and time having run out, I picked the User > Guide as a good choice for bringing in new people with the lowest > barriers. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x#Documentation > So I say we get the word out about the FAD now. We'll be working on the User Guide for F10 and Packaging of Fonts during the day. A full schedule can be found at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x If you are interested, live near Southern California (even if it's a few hours drive, like Las Vegas), come on down and participate for the day. And hey, why not stay for the rest of SCaLE :) Cheers, Clint From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 20:55:15 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:55:15 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Kids at SCaLE 7x Message-ID: Here's a conversation I had regarding SCaLE's policy toward bringing children. 13:49 < herlo> I asked a couple days back about kids at scale and pricing or whatever. I forgot to take #scale-chat of ignore, what is the rules on children? 13:49 < Gareth> Kids are definitely allowed to attend. 13:50 < herlo> sure, and I think it's encouraged no? 13:50 < Gareth> We generally dont charge for them if they're under 16 or so. 13:50 < Gareth> Definitely! 13:50 < herlo> cool, that's what I was after 13:50 < Gareth> We had quite a few last year....they all seemed to have a good time. 13:50 < herlo> the Fedorans will be sporting a few young'ns around is all 13:50 < Gareth> Good to hear! 13:50 < lcafiero> +1 Gareth 13:50 < herlo> yeah, we have the wii lined up to be used all day if they get bored 13:52 < herlo> I'm sure we'll have other activities for them. I plan on bringing scissors and some fedora media boxes for them to build 13:52 < lcafiero> Orv_work may want to do something with this, press-wise. Some of the other events -- especially Linux World -- are kid unfriendly, and it doesn't allow those of us with kids to attend. 13:52 < herlo> maybe we should also bring some skulladay.com pages too, that'll entertain them 13:52 < Gareth> yeah. he wrote something up last year too...I'm sure he'll write something up this year. 13:53 < herlo> we'll watch for it So this brings to my mind. What can we do to entertain children at our booth besides the OLPCs? I think that it'd be fun to have kids come around and make stuff at our booth. There are tons of good things on make.com and other places for kids. What do you guys think? Cheers, Clint From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jan 27 21:38:56 2009 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:38:56 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Kids at SCaLE 7x In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090127213856.GR4822@calliope.phig.org> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 01:55:15PM -0700, Clint Savage wrote: > Here's a conversation I had regarding SCaLE's policy toward bringing children. > > 13:49 < herlo> I asked a couple days back about kids at scale and > pricing or whatever. I forgot to take #scale-chat of ignore, what is > the rules > on children? > 13:49 < Gareth> Kids are definitely allowed to attend. > 13:50 < herlo> sure, and I think it's encouraged no? > 13:50 < Gareth> We generally dont charge for them if they're under 16 or so. > 13:50 < Gareth> Definitely! > 13:50 < herlo> cool, that's what I was after > 13:50 < Gareth> We had quite a few last year....they all seemed to > have a good time. > 13:50 < herlo> the Fedorans will be sporting a few young'ns around is all > 13:50 < Gareth> Good to hear! > 13:50 < lcafiero> +1 Gareth > 13:50 < herlo> yeah, we have the wii lined up to be used all day if > they get bored > 13:52 < herlo> I'm sure we'll have other activities for them. I plan > on bringing scissors and some fedora media boxes for them to build > 13:52 < lcafiero> Orv_work may want to do something with this, > press-wise. Some of the other events -- especially Linux World -- are > kid > unfriendly, and it doesn't allow those of us with > kids to attend. > 13:52 < herlo> maybe we should also bring some skulladay.com pages > too, that'll entertain them > 13:52 < Gareth> yeah. he wrote something up last year too...I'm sure > he'll write something up this year. > 13:53 < herlo> we'll watch for it > > So this brings to my mind. What can we do to entertain children at > our booth besides the OLPCs? > > I think that it'd be fun to have kids come around and make stuff at > our booth. There are tons of good things on make.com and other places > for kids. > > What do you guys think? Firstly, I'm stoked. OSCON was the first time I really got to interact with younger people at an event; the twelve year old Python hacker was my favorite discussion on one day. One idea I had was to line up multiple laptops (XO, I have a T41, etc.) and have the girls go through as many games on Linux as they can stand. I could teach them Wesnoth, for example. I'd like to highlight Linux as a kid-friendly OS. Tux Paint, Tux Typing, etc. are also a must. Heck, we'll play Sudoku now! I like the media boxes, that will be a hit with my crafty pair. Let's look for some other stuff on make.com, that would be pretty cool. I suppose ... maybe I should bring my all-in-one printer? It'd be a bit of a pain, but we could put it in our room and have it for printing off cool stuff to make. - Karsten -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I assume that Karsten will be representing Docs, and I'll ask him > > to represent Ambassadors as well, and fill me in on whatever I need to know. > > > > Thanks, > > Max > > > > I opened the discussion in FAmSCo list the same day you sent the > invite, asking someone with good skill in oral english to give an > hand. BTW, as many of us suggested Max and he is pointing to Karsten, > FAmSCo will give him all the informations about what we are planning > and what we will expect this release cycle. Thanks, I'll be there; someone else is representing Docs this time. I'm not sure what specific items we have other than media printing. Do we want to suggest to people they have release parties on a later date if they want media? What would be such a date? - Karsten -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Because by then we > would be the only distribution which has such project running on campuses. > Of course it would be a kind of honor to be part of such innitiative... my > doubt is if it wouldn't be duplication of work, and you know, these voices > that we're trying to make our own way of promoting Open Source... :) > Althouth by then we could be the pace setting side ones, and that could be > the fantastic side... ;) I hope you know what I mean :D The way I see a Fedora Campus Ambassador's role ... ... they represent Fedora _inside_ of other campus groups -- IEEE, SIGs, LUGs, etc. ... they coordinate with _other_ Fedorans (Ambassadors, other contributors) to be part of existing events. ... they present Fedora at existing events. ... they start new events in coordination with other FLOSS groups and Fedora contributors in the area. In this way, they do not replace existing Fedora or FLOSS efforts. 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Sometimes there aren't Ambassadors near, but there may be other contributors or participants. I personally expect a Campus Ambassador to coordinate with any and all Fedorans in the area, not as a replacement but as an additive force. - Karsten -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Generally REs are organized in a wide range (from 1 day to 1 month after the release), by the way, your idea is an interesting one: maybe it could be useful to plan media production in a period of time not far from the release (1/2 weeks), using local contacts and let the local distribution machine working like is working now. > What would be such a date? Release parties haven't a specify date: we see this system is working well, just because people are free to choose a date that fit their availability and could work for each local area. Maybe we could address people on a specific period (e.g. in the 3 days after the release), but I think the freedom we had in the past give us amazing results. Naturally what I'm saying is pondered according to the feedbacks we received during the last Release Events. Actually we haven't defined a strategy and FAmSCo plans to start the discussion (and extend in this list) in the first weeks of February, after FOSDEM (I couldn't be there, but I invite attendees to think about REs). Naturally I invite all the community members to give their POV: you are the really events makers so you are a crucial mile stone, necessary to make Release Events a real interesting/ambazing/unique initiative. Karsten, I'm going to keep you constantly update on the REs event planning status. I'm sure during FAmSCo meetings and in the threads that are going to be opened in this list, we could be able to organize something special. Regards Francesco Ugolini From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 22:36:56 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:36:56 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Kids at SCaLE 7x In-Reply-To: <20090127213856.GR4822@calliope.phig.org> References: <20090127213856.GR4822@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: 2009/1/27 Karsten Wade : > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 01:55:15PM -0700, Clint Savage wrote: >> Here's a conversation I had regarding SCaLE's policy toward bringing children. >> >> 13:49 < herlo> I asked a couple days back about kids at scale and >> pricing or whatever. I forgot to take #scale-chat of ignore, what is >> the rules >> on children? >> 13:49 < Gareth> Kids are definitely allowed to attend. >> 13:50 < herlo> sure, and I think it's encouraged no? >> 13:50 < Gareth> We generally dont charge for them if they're under 16 or so. >> 13:50 < Gareth> Definitely! >> 13:50 < herlo> cool, that's what I was after >> 13:50 < Gareth> We had quite a few last year....they all seemed to >> have a good time. >> 13:50 < herlo> the Fedorans will be sporting a few young'ns around is all >> 13:50 < Gareth> Good to hear! >> 13:50 < lcafiero> +1 Gareth >> 13:50 < herlo> yeah, we have the wii lined up to be used all day if >> they get bored >> 13:52 < herlo> I'm sure we'll have other activities for them. I plan >> on bringing scissors and some fedora media boxes for them to build >> 13:52 < lcafiero> Orv_work may want to do something with this, >> press-wise. Some of the other events -- especially Linux World -- are >> kid >> unfriendly, and it doesn't allow those of us with >> kids to attend. >> 13:52 < herlo> maybe we should also bring some skulladay.com pages >> too, that'll entertain them >> 13:52 < Gareth> yeah. he wrote something up last year too...I'm sure >> he'll write something up this year. >> 13:53 < herlo> we'll watch for it >> >> So this brings to my mind. What can we do to entertain children at >> our booth besides the OLPCs? >> >> I think that it'd be fun to have kids come around and make stuff at >> our booth. There are tons of good things on make.com and other places >> for kids. >> >> What do you guys think? > > Firstly, I'm stoked. OSCON was the first time I really got to > interact with younger people at an event; the twelve year old Python > hacker was my favorite discussion on one day. > > One idea I had was to line up multiple laptops (XO, I have a T41, > etc.) and have the girls go through as many games on Linux as they can > stand. I could teach them Wesnoth, for example. I'd like to > highlight Linux as a kid-friendly OS. Tux Paint, Tux Typing, etc. are > also a must. Heck, we'll play Sudoku now! > > I like the media boxes, that will be a hit with my crafty pair. Let's > look for some other stuff on make.com, that would be pretty cool. > > I suppose ... maybe I should bring my all-in-one printer? It'd be a > bit of a pain, but we could put it in our room and have it for > printing off cool stuff to make. > > - Karsten > -- > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener > http://quaid.fedorapeople.org > AD0E0C41 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Karsten, Have you seen skulladay.com? At Ignite Salt Lake, they had some of these there for people to do, it was quite fun and challenging. http://skulladay.blogspot.com/2007/08/72-papercraft-skull-with-articulated.html I'm sure we could find much more fun things to do like this on make. I'll keep looking around, but if you all have ideas post them on the SCaLE 7x planning website: (I've even made a kid friendly section near the bottom) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCALE7X_Event Cheers, Clint From inode0 at gmail.com Wed Jan 28 00:02:23 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:02:23 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Change Reminder Message-ID: Just a reminder to everyone that there is not going to be a FAmNA meeting this evening. The meetings scheduled for February are going to be on the 3rd and the 17th. Mike McGrath will be joining us on the 3rd to talk about infrastructure so please try to attend our next meeting to participate in that discussion. John From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Wed Jan 28 10:46:07 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:46:07 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Message-ID: <200901281146.11527.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear Ambassadors, let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mohaas05 from Washington, D.C., USA https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yangraham from United Kingdom https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Racl from Chile https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jfsalazar from Venezuela https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hutchint from Colorado Area, USA Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From guillermo.gomez at gmail.com Wed Jan 28 14:09:29 2009 From: guillermo.gomez at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Guillermo_G=F3mez?=) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:39:29 -0430 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome In-Reply-To: <200901281146.11527.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200901281146.11527.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <49806719.4020508@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 JoergSimon wrote: > Dear Ambassadors, > > let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mohaas05 from Washington, D.C., USA > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yangraham from United Kingdom > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Racl from Chile > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jfsalazar from Venezuela > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hutchint from Colorado Area, USA > > > Regards Joerg > p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list welcome all :) new chile and venezuela ambassadors are invited to contribute to proyectofedora.org (fedora-latam) rgds Guillermo -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmAZxkACgkQcSOFtc3tqRVzoQCcCJHnm4ibM8R8d5W9G+JMqQcf 0icAoImbqfYbKUpcNjHUhqGIRaqxnKOo =yYx9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From guillermo.gomez at gmail.com Wed Jan 28 14:11:18 2009 From: guillermo.gomez at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Guillermo_G=F3mez?=) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:41:18 -0430 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome In-Reply-To: <200901270915.32710.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200901270915.32710.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <49806786.3080708@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 JoergSimon wrote: > Dear Ambassadors, > > let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jpirie23 from Edinburgh, Scotland/UK > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Aalonso from Mexico > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Iuridiniz from Mexico > > > Regards Joerg > p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list welcome all :) Mexico new ambassadors are invited to contribute with proyectofedora.org (fedora-latam group). rgds Guillermo -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmAZ4YACgkQcSOFtc3tqRWJ5QCff6txihRsiRgW4ggQhZFbY3a7 zRQAnjqk4tjeF2Z09Wgqir14D/YZJvpR =6Gqn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kadionik at enseirb.fr Wed Jan 28 15:54:24 2009 From: kadionik at enseirb.fr (Patrice Kadionik) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:54:24 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Call for Presentation for the "Embedded Systems and Open Hardware" session of the 10th Libre Software Meeting (Nantes, France, July 2009) Message-ID: <49807FB0.6090300@enseirb.fr> Dear all, Please find below the Call For Presentation to the LSM meeting for the "Embedded Systems and Open Hardware" session. Sincerely Yours; Patrice. French Fedora ambassador. =========================================================================== The Libre Software Meeting (LSM) is an annual event on free software taking place in july in France since 2000. The LSM meeting is organized this year in Nantes from 7th to 11th july. This text is the Call For Presentation (CFP) of the "Embedded Systems and Open Hardware" session. The other topics can be found on the LSM Web site: http://2009.rmll.info/. The embedded systems are increasingly present in our life. The embedded system community usually used commercial software solutions with royalties to reverse each time a system is sold. Since few years, a reversal of tendency has appeared with the use of free software for embedded systems. That is made possible by the adaptation of the Linux kernel to the constraints of atypical embedded system (no MMU, small memory footprint, filesystem in FLASH memory...) and its port on various types of processors. Along with free software for embedded systems, Open Hardware is becoming more and more important. Open Hardware provides access to all the specifications of an electronic device design and is reproductible by everyone. This allows design reuse because one knows how it works. Open Hardware also increases its life because it can be reused in another use. The purpose of the "Embedded Systems and Open Hardware" session is to give the state of the art of free software for embedded systems and Open Hardware. Technical topics of this session include but are not limited to: * Embedded OS Development kernel architecture, implementation and port for embedded systems * Embedded Development Tools: tool chains and project cases (tool chain projects, packaging for cross compilation, portability ...) * Embedded Linux: ?Clinux... * Real-time extensions for Linux: RTLinux, RTAI... * Hard real-time kernels: eCos, RTEMS, ADEOS, Xenomai... * Soft Real-time kernels * Embedded Java * GUI for embedded systems: Gtk, Qt, Nano/X... * Linux and System on Chip (SoC) * Open Hardware, Open design, free IP modules (Intellectual Property) and softcores: opencores, OpenRISC, NIOS, Microblaze, LEONSparc, FPGA... Submissions with industrial applications and experiences are specially encouraged. Pr?cisions for the speakers: The conference will last 30 minutes, questions included. Round tables will be organized. Synthetic presentations are scheduled to last 20 minutes. PDF versions of the presentation are not mandatory but they will be greatly appreciated (with a web online access just after the LSM event, they are a very useful documentation to the entire community). If you plan to participate and to propose a presentation, please send as soon as possible a message to the following address: embarque at rmll.info with a summary of your presentation (and if you can, an english summary too) no later than 15th march 2009. Feel free to forward this Call For Presentation everywhere or to everyone you think to be interested in. We have limited resources for public transportation (only for those who can not be refunded by their administration) but there is no fees for the conference and accommodation at very low cost is proposed on the site. The chairmen of the "Embedded Systems and Open Hardware" for LSM ?09: Florian Fainelli, Patrice Kadionik, Thomas Petazzoni et Pierre Ficheux. =========================================================================== -- Patrice Kadionik. F6KQH / F4CUQ ----------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +"Tout doit etre aussi simple que possible, pas seulement plus simple" + +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Patrice Kadionik http://www.enseirb.fr/~kadionik + + IMS Laboratory http://www.ims-bordeaux.fr/ + + ENSEIRB http://www.enseirb.fr + + PO BOX 99 fax : +33 5.56.37.20.23 + + 33402 TALENCE Cedex voice : +33 5.56.84.23.47 + + FRANCE mailto:patrice.kadionik at ims-bordeaux.fr + +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org Thu Jan 29 03:09:45 2009 From: mcgiwer at fedoraproject.org (Pawel Sadowski) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:09:45 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thoughts Regarding Campus Ambassador Program In-Reply-To: <20090127220212.GU4822@calliope.phig.org> References: <49776C63.70707@redhat.com> <6ad0ab20901211148q1e7b1c1gac38e4d72909aca1@mail.gmail.com> <4e08525d0901220307y536e705en7e2176a7c02a8957@mail.gmail.com> <20090127220212.GU4822@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: <4e08525d0901281909m187cc5e8s331fb4ccf454190d@mail.gmail.com> 2009/1/27 Karsten Wade > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:07:29PM +0100, Pawel Sadowski wrote: > > > Well, as Alejandro said, I believe it could be a fantastic innitiative, > > but... At least if it comes about Poland, there are let's call it SIGs on > > campuses here, inter alia those related to Linux. What my concern is, how > to > > connect the both groups and how to cooperate with them. Because by then > we > > would be the only distribution which has such project running on > campuses. > > Of course it would be a kind of honor to be part of such innitiative... > my > > doubt is if it wouldn't be duplication of work, and you know, these > voices > > that we're trying to make our own way of promoting Open Source... :) > > Althouth by then we could be the pace setting side ones, and that could > be > > the fantastic side... ;) I hope you know what I mean :D > > The way I see a Fedora Campus Ambassador's role ... > > ... they represent Fedora _inside_ of other campus groups -- IEEE, > SIGs, LUGs, etc. > > ... they coordinate with _other_ Fedorans (Ambassadors, other > contributors) to be part of existing events. > > ... they present Fedora at existing events. > > ... they start new events in coordination with other FLOSS groups and > Fedora contributors in the area. > > In this way, they do not replace existing Fedora or FLOSS efforts. > Instead, Campus Ambbassadors add to those efforts. Hmm, yeah, I know what you mean. In fact, it's the same role as Ambassadors are supposed to play, but, hmm, right, there might be no Ambassadors at campus while there're some Ambassadors even in the same city. I'd describe the role of Campus Ambassadors as "activization of academic community" ;) +1,5 Cheers, Pawel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hagr182 at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 03:35:04 2009 From: hagr182 at gmail.com (Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:35:04 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thoughts Regarding Campus Ambassador Program In-Reply-To: <96365e610901220900g2e9ce970j257a274fc4e15787@mail.gmail.com> References: <49776C63.70707@redhat.com> <96365e610901220900g2e9ce970j257a274fc4e15787@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1d24cdf80901281935oc1e2744ta8f5c251a916c9be@mail.gmail.com> Well guys, talked to the IT related career director and we are interested, so any info would be greatly appreaciated, in On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Brian Powell wrote: > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > I would like to get some feedback regarding the proposed program. You > can > > find the wiki page here: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Campus_Ambassadors > > > > Let the discussion begin. Any feedback is greatly appreciated, I hope to > > get everything in order and announce this to the world soon. > > > > Thanks, > > Jack > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > I would gladly help get this initiative off the ground in my area. > There are numerous colleges in my area that I have already done Fedora > presentations at or plan to in the near future so I already have > inside contacts, so this would just be an extension of what I am > already currently doing. > > Look forward to the activation of the mailing list and participating in > this. > > -- > Regards, > > Brian Powell > http://fedoraproject.org > http://wnylug.org > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 04:23:10 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:53:10 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: References: <496F9BC5.4090306@fedoraproject.org> <497008EE.3070409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00901282023p5edc0479x9bf28622a599108f@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:46 AM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Not yet, but thanks for the idea. :) > I shall do it after testing it for another couple of days. Will be looking forward to that. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From irashadul at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 05:45:24 2009 From: irashadul at gmail.com (Rashadul Islam) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:15:24 +0030 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thoughts Regarding Campus Ambassador Program In-Reply-To: <1d24cdf80901281935oc1e2744ta8f5c251a916c9be@mail.gmail.com> References: <49776C63.70707@redhat.com> <96365e610901220900g2e9ce970j257a274fc4e15787@mail.gmail.com> <1d24cdf80901281935oc1e2744ta8f5c251a916c9be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <17fa59580901282145t654ef808p9367b6f6fe75725f@mail.gmail.com> +1 Karsten. I welcome all the campus ambassador to start an extra ordinary initiatative. We all are with u. On 1/29/09, Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez wrote: > Well guys, talked to the IT related career director and we are interested, > so any info would be greatly appreaciated, in > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Brian Powell wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Jack Aboutboul wrote: >> > Hello All, >> > >> > I would like to get some feedback regarding the proposed program. You >> can >> > find the wiki page here: >> > >> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Campus_Ambassadors >> > >> > Let the discussion begin. Any feedback is greatly appreciated, I hope >> > to >> > get everything in order and announce this to the world soon. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Jack >> > >> > -- >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > >> >> I would gladly help get this initiative off the ground in my area. >> There are numerous colleges in my area that I have already done Fedora >> presentations at or plan to in the near future so I already have >> inside contacts, so this would just be an extension of what I am >> already currently doing. >> >> Look forward to the activation of the mailing list and participating in >> this. >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Brian Powell >> http://fedoraproject.org >> http://wnylug.org >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > -- Rashadul Islam ---------------------- Fedora Ambassador Canada/Montreal GPG Key 5557BFAC Finger Print 3869 732D FC43 92B4 2805 85DD C072 0238 4C74 3A69 From angel at linux.org.bd Thu Jan 29 10:24:34 2009 From: angel at linux.org.bd (Ashiqur Rahman Angel) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:24:34 +0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Introduction to Fedora 10 : Fedora beginners Guide Message-ID: Fedora 10, codename Cambridge released in 25 November, 2008. Here in this tutorial, I have tried to cover everything most easiest way possible. This tutorial specially for the users who want to switch to Fedora from other distros (or even Windows) or who want to try something new beside Ubuntu (I myself think, Ubuntu is boring). Details here: http://angel.linux.org.bd/2009/01/29/introduction-to-fedora-10/ Feedback is welcome. -- Angel GPG key: 0x34001F46 Bangladesh Linux Users Alliance Fedora Ambassador Bangladesh http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Angel Fedora -- Freedom? and rapid innovation -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 16:07:33 2009 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:07:33 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thoughts Regarding Campus Ambassador Program In-Reply-To: <17fa59580901282145t654ef808p9367b6f6fe75725f@mail.gmail.com> References: <49776C63.70707@redhat.com> <96365e610901220900g2e9ce970j257a274fc4e15787@mail.gmail.com> <1d24cdf80901281935oc1e2744ta8f5c251a916c9be@mail.gmail.com> <17fa59580901282145t654ef808p9367b6f6fe75725f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7a0d56080901290807l78fea2ecl4be0fd405f12424c@mail.gmail.com> As a point of clarification -- and I don't see it on the wiki (and I may have missed it or it may not need to be there) -- I am assuming that those who are already ambassadors who are not college students/faculty and who live in college towns -- for example, yours truly in Santa Cruz, or David Nalley in Clemson (not that I'm volunteering him, heh heh) -- can serve as campus ambassadors if they fulfill the obligations outlined on the wiki. True? The reason I ask is that I'm not attending school in the spring (long story, due partially to my FOSS/Fedora activities), but I can easily serve as a campus ambassador at the college I attended (and at which I formed a LUG a couple of years ago), at least until a student/faculty member shows a willingness to take the reins. Just thought I'd throw that out there. Feel free to throw it out if it's been asked and answered. Larry Cafiero On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Rashadul Islam wrote: > +1 Karsten. I welcome all the campus ambassador to start an extra > ordinary initiatative. We all are with u. > > On 1/29/09, Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez wrote: > > Well guys, talked to the IT related career director and we are > interested, > > so any info would be greatly appreaciated, in > > > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Brian Powell > wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > >> > Hello All, > >> > > >> > I would like to get some feedback regarding the proposed program. You > >> can > >> > find the wiki page here: > >> > > >> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Campus_Ambassadors > >> > > >> > Let the discussion begin. Any feedback is greatly appreciated, I hope > >> > to > >> > get everything in order and announce this to the world soon. > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > Jack > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > > >> > >> I would gladly help get this initiative off the ground in my area. > >> There are numerous colleges in my area that I have already done Fedora > >> presentations at or plan to in the near future so I already have > >> inside contacts, so this would just be an extension of what I am > >> already currently doing. > >> > >> Look forward to the activation of the mailing list and participating in > >> this. > >> > >> -- > >> Regards, > >> > >> Brian Powell > >> http://fedoraproject.org > >> http://wnylug.org > >> > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > > > > > -- > Rashadul Islam > ---------------------- > Fedora Ambassador > Canada/Montreal > GPG Key 5557BFAC > Finger Print 3869 732D FC43 92B4 2805 85DD C072 0238 4C74 3A69 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From terrance.hutchinson at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 16:31:58 2009 From: terrance.hutchinson at gmail.com (Terrance Hutchinson) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:31:58 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thoughts Regarding Campus Ambassador Program In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080901290807l78fea2ecl4be0fd405f12424c@mail.gmail.com> References: <49776C63.70707@redhat.com> <96365e610901220900g2e9ce970j257a274fc4e15787@mail.gmail.com> <1d24cdf80901281935oc1e2744ta8f5c251a916c9be@mail.gmail.com> <17fa59580901282145t654ef808p9367b6f6fe75725f@mail.gmail.com> <7a0d56080901290807l78fea2ecl4be0fd405f12424c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <90460ac00901290831k78870f6foe8718d4f9396acbe@mail.gmail.com> I think the Campus Ambassador Program is a great idea. If only it were a year ago and I could participate. 2009/1/29 Larry Cafiero > As a point of clarification -- and I don't see it on the wiki (and I may > have missed it or it may not need to be there) -- I am assuming that those > who are already ambassadors who are not college students/faculty and who > live in college towns -- for example, yours truly in Santa Cruz, or David > Nalley in Clemson (not that I'm volunteering him, heh heh) -- can serve as > campus ambassadors if they fulfill the obligations outlined on the wiki. > True? > > The reason I ask is that I'm not attending school in the spring (long > story, due partially to my FOSS/Fedora activities), but I can easily serve > as a campus ambassador at the college I attended (and at which I formed a > LUG a couple of years ago), at least until a student/faculty member shows a > willingness to take the reins. > > Just thought I'd throw that out there. Feel free to throw it out if it's > been asked and answered. > > Larry Cafiero > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Rashadul Islam wrote: > >> +1 Karsten. I welcome all the campus ambassador to start an extra >> ordinary initiatative. We all are with u. >> >> On 1/29/09, Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez wrote: >> > Well guys, talked to the IT related career director and we are >> interested, >> > so any info would be greatly appreaciated, in >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Brian Powell >> wrote: >> > >> >> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Jack Aboutboul >> wrote: >> >> > Hello All, >> >> > >> >> > I would like to get some feedback regarding the proposed program. >> You >> >> can >> >> > find the wiki page here: >> >> > >> >> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Campus_Ambassadors >> >> > >> >> > Let the discussion begin. Any feedback is greatly appreciated, I >> hope >> >> > to >> >> > get everything in order and announce this to the world soon. >> >> > >> >> > Thanks, >> >> > Jack >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> >> > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > >> >> >> >> I would gladly help get this initiative off the ground in my area. >> >> There are numerous colleges in my area that I have already done Fedora >> >> presentations at or plan to in the near future so I already have >> >> inside contacts, so this would just be an extension of what I am >> >> already currently doing. >> >> >> >> Look forward to the activation of the mailing list and participating in >> >> this. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Brian Powell >> >> http://fedoraproject.org >> >> http://wnylug.org >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- >> Rashadul Islam >> ---------------------- >> Fedora Ambassador >> Canada/Montreal >> GPG Key 5557BFAC >> Finger Print 3869 732D FC43 92B4 2805 85DD C072 0238 4C74 3A69 >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matiasmaceira at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 17:45:47 2009 From: matiasmaceira at gmail.com (matias maceira) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:45:47 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome In-Reply-To: <49806786.3080708@gmail.com> References: <200901270915.32710.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <49806786.3080708@gmail.com> Message-ID: <933cb3780901290945k32e0eee0l489b32ccf3b19a98@mail.gmail.com> Felicitaciones desde Argentina y los esperamos a contribuir con el Proyecto Fedora LatinoAmerica. Un Abrazo grande. Matias Maceira Fedora Argentina 2009/1/28 Guillermo G?mez : > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > JoergSimon wrote: >> Dear Ambassadors, >> >> let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jpirie23 from Edinburgh, Scotland/UK >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Aalonso from Mexico >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Iuridiniz from Mexico >> >> >> Regards Joerg >> p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > welcome all :) > > Mexico new ambassadors are invited to contribute with proyectofedora.org > (fedora-latam group). > > rgds > > Guillermo > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAkmAZ4YACgkQcSOFtc3tqRWJ5QCff6txihRsiRgW4ggQhZFbY3a7 > zRQAnjqk4tjeF2Z09Wgqir14D/YZJvpR > =6Gqn > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 18:14:33 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:44:33 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Freemedia processing is now automated. Testing required. (please read.) In-Reply-To: <35586fc00901282023p5edc0479x9bf28622a599108f@mail.gmail.com> References: <496F9BC5.4090306@fedoraproject.org> <497008EE.3070409@gmail.com> <35586fc00901282023p5edc0479x9bf28622a599108f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:46 AM, susmit shannigrahi > wrote: > >> Not yet, but thanks for the idea. :) >> I shall do it after testing it for another couple of days. > > Will be looking forward to that. I did it that day and sent the link to the list. :) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/GoLive -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Jan 29 20:24:23 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:24:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM Message-ID: Are there any remaining questions, or organizational topics that need to be addressed for FOSDEM? For those of you who are receiving some sort of sponsorship from the Community Architecture budget, please read over https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements and be ready with your receipts as quickly after FOSDEM as possible. I need to get all of the FOSDEM-related expenses into the Red Hat system by the middle of February, so it won't leave much time. Thanks, Max From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Jan 29 21:30:47 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:30:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] FOSDEM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Max Spevack wrote: > Are there any remaining questions, or organizational topics that need > to be addressed for FOSDEM? Sorry I missed the IRC meeting that I called -- I feel like an idiot. I was in another meeting, and lost track of time. --Max From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 21:46:28 2009 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:46:28 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Looking toward SCaLE, and looking further forward Message-ID: <7a0d56080901291346i2d2280eeu1f0a266daff5ae79@mail.gmail.com> Hi, all -- I just wanted to touch base with North American ambassadors regarding the Fedora Activity Day at the Southern California Linux Expo on Feb. 20, 2009, as well as to put out on the list on a couple of potential FADs coming up in next several months. First things first: SCaLE. Here's the wiki page for FAD SCaLE: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x and we're still looking for people to participate in the FAD event on Friday. We'll probably extend the hours into the evening, so those who may not be able to make it during the day could make it on Friday evening. Plus, on a side note, I've talked with Joe Smith, who is sort of the de facto head of the Ubuntu Local Community (LoCo) in California, and since they're having a Bug Jam over the weekend, we agreed to post each other's events on our lists in order to share brainpower, so those who are working on items on Friday are welcome to help out over the weekend at the Bug Jam. More on FAD to follow, but if you live in the West (or anywhere) and find you can make it to L.A., come on down. The booth at SCaLE: We're still looking for people to staff the booth at SCaLE. Clint Savage has a presentation at SCaLE as well (and hopefully he can tell us more about it. Clint?), so his time at the booth may be limited. I will be there for as long as necessary, but there's always more fun in numbers, so again if you're in the neighborhood -- okay, if you're in the same country or same hemisphere -- and want to come, you get a free pass to the event and the satisfaction of knowing you helped Fedora. What more in life is there? Looking further forward: We have the possibility of holding FADs at LinuxFest Northwest in Bellingham, Wash., and at OSCON, which this year is in San Jose, Calif. (and not Portland, as in years past). While I don't mind doing the groundwork etc., for LFNW, I am hoping someone closer to Bellingham (just north of Seattle, close to the Canadian border and Vancouver, BC) might want to take the reins. If not, that's fine. I can do it from the Central California coast. With OSCON almost within walking distance (with a good tail wind and a few packs of trail mix), I don't mind handling OSCON. That essentially covers the West Coast -- are there any other events we can hold FADs at, and more importantly, who wants to take the reins on these events? Larry Cafiero -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you have signed up as booth personnel, please add yourself to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FOSDEM_2009_Booth_Attendance TIA, Christoph (I know the page is not in the current FOSDEM namespace, but after talking with Ian I decided to follow the new Wiki structure, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Help:Wiki_structure ) From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 00:29:25 2009 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:29:25 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Looking toward SCaLE, and looking further forward In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080901291346i2d2280eeu1f0a266daff5ae79@mail.gmail.com> References: <7a0d56080901291346i2d2280eeu1f0a266daff5ae79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7a0d56080901291629j69538d1bq2084b164d31cf698@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:46 PM, I wrote: > > ... you get a free pass to the event and the satisfaction of knowing you > helped Fedora. What more in life is there? A little clarification here: There is a limited number of passes available, obviously (I think the number is five), and naturally there's a priority to those who are going to work the Fedora booth. I didn't want anyone to get the impression that we were just going to hand out exhibitor passes to everyone who asked. Larry Cafiero -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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With OSCON almost within walking > distance (with a good tail wind and a few packs of trail mix), I don't mind > handling OSCON. > LFNW is basically in my back yard, so I will be helping to take care of that one. There is also Linuxcon which is going to be just before Plumbers Conference in Portland OR. First year for this event, I think it's done by some of the same people who have done (O)LS in years past. http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Frank From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Fri Jan 30 17:20:12 2009 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:20:12 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] 29 01 2009 FAMSCO Meeting report Message-ID: <20090130182012.66d78b04@mrtomlinux.org> Hello and welcome to this third FAMSCO weekly meeting summary. The latest meeting was hold on the 29th January 2009 on #fedora-meeting Attendees: Francesco Fugolini Joerg Simon Susmit Shannigrahi Thomas Canniot David Nalley Regreted attendees: Rodrigo Padula Max Spevack Francesco starts by announcing the meeting agenda : 1) Budget 2) Tasks status 1) Budget As Max was unfortunately not attending this already incredible meeting, the budget topic was postponed until the force may be with him again. 2) Tasks status ## Mentorship Kital has sent a mail to contact mentors on their mailing list and is planning a stupendous meeting with them soon. ## Trac system Susmit explains the trac system works in a gorgeous manner and is waiting for complete usability from FAMSCo and ambassadors. ## Mailing list management Kital and Francesco agreed that FAMSCo list has to be managed in a smarter way. Some members are in the list for organization workflow improvement purposes and a wiki page should be created to know ? who's in and who's out ?. ## Release events Francesco will soon get in contact with Susmit to discuss about release events organization and plannings so as to improve Release event organization and help organizers as much as possible, including with budget. ## Marketing relations status Francesco suggested that Release Events and marketing relationship could be tasks to handled in parallels, and occasion to strengthen links with Marketing people. ## French Ambassadors Organization Thomas pointed out that a first official contact was made the day before with Tunisian and Morocco Ambassadors to invite them to join Solutions Linux event at the end of March. Positive answers were received so far and we are letting them time to get organized to come in France. ## Company contact in East European countries (Romania - Hungary) Kital has contacted Hungarian University and Romanian Exhibitors and invited regional Fedora People (including the outstandingly famous Nicu) to explain them how their companies could benefit from getting involved in Fedora (EPEL, Sponsoring ...). Francesco added that including Marketing on this topic as well could help FAMSCo going farther in this tremendous task. The fact is that there are few opportunities to organize events there with community members, however events are made for professional purposes, and Fedora has to be there as well. Kital is trying to find topics to attract them inside the Fedora community. And then there was silence. Francesco rises his finger in the air, and decided He should adjourned the meeting. Thanks for reading. 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Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From jbenedictlow at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 18:09:16 2009 From: jbenedictlow at gmail.com (Jason Benedict Low) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:09:16 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome In-Reply-To: <200901301903.06558.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200901301903.06558.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4983424C.9070400@gmail.com> Welcome! JoergSimon wrote: > Dear Ambassadors, > > let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Coolg5 from Mumbai, India > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Leandrocesar from Brazil > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Playkaut from India > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Nitj23 from Bangalore, India > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ulissisgc from Brazil > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Maxamillion from Texas, USA > > > > Regards Joerg > p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Best Regards, Jason http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jason_Benedict_Low VoIP = sip:jasonbenedict at fedoraproject.org ------ When i work nobody care. When i rest everybody stare. ------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 30 18:38:40 2009 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:38:40 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] 29 01 2009 FAMSCO Meeting report In-Reply-To: <20090130182012.66d78b04@mrtomlinux.org> References: <20090130182012.66d78b04@mrtomlinux.org> Message-ID: 2009/1/30 Thomas Canniot : > Hello and welcome to this third FAMSCO weekly meeting summary. > > The latest meeting was hold on the 29th January 2009 on #fedora-meeting Thank you for the report. I invite whoever want to make suggestions to make those here: it's a good thing to know community feedbacks, this could give us a better approach to community problems and initiatives. Regards Francesco Ugolini From nacross at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 18:38:40 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:38:40 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Freemedia + Unity Re-Spins, Thoughts? In-Reply-To: <4982BCCE.8030700@fedoraproject.org> References: <4982BCCE.8030700@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > Looking for thoughts on this. > > What would the Freemedia\Ambassadors think, > if we cannot include Unity-Respins as full Project sponsored spins. > Could we try work on them as an upgrade option. > > > John (inode) voiced something similar previously: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-January/msg00198.html > > Where requester is sent the Official Media, > and the closest Unity-spin to the request date. > > It will cost ambassadors a bit extra on media\time\p+p. > But it will save the requester time\money, and > give them a fairly concurrent box. > > If feedback is positive, would others be willing to help me bring this > forward, to the relevant groups\committees? > > Frank > I am a newcomer to the free media program, since December 2008. I am here to help. At this point I have more questions than opinions. Sure there are some historical background that is unknown for me. I think it is better to ask early than to complain later. I will love to be able to distribute media up-to-date, to save people (me included) from having to download 500+ Mb to update a fresh install. Specially where internet connections does not help much to speed update. It is Unity re-spin official fedora? Unity re-spin is available using jigdo, or at least it seems to be. Why there is no jigdo for official media? Again, maybe there is a good answer to those questions, but it is unknown to me (most likely because I am a newcomer). One of my concern, representing fedora to the public, is to give the proper response. Providing official media is one of those proper responses. Again I will like to continue to help the free-media program. I am just asking to obtain a better understanding. Hope, that I stir debate a bit and help a better solution for the free-media program. Best regards -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 From maxamillion at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 18:50:22 2009 From: maxamillion at gmail.com (Adam Miller) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:50:22 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome In-Reply-To: <4983424C.9070400@gmail.com> References: <200901301903.06558.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <4983424C.9070400@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you very much, very happy to be here and I look forward to spreading Fedora as much as I am able. -Adam 2009/1/30 Jason Benedict Low : > Welcome! > > JoergSimon wrote: > > Dear Ambassadors, > > let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Coolg5 from Mumbai, India > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Leandrocesar from Brazil > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Playkaut from India > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Nitj23 from Bangalore, India > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ulissisgc from Brazil > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Maxamillion from Texas, USA > > > > Regards Joerg > p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List > > > ________________________________ > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -- > Best Regards, > Jason > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jason_Benedict_Low > VoIP = sip:jasonbenedict at fedoraproject.org > ------ When i work nobody care. When i rest everybody stare. ------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com --------------------------------------------------------- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments From inode0 at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 18:51:07 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:51:07 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Freemedia + Unity Re-Spins, Thoughts? In-Reply-To: <4982BCCE.8030700@fedoraproject.org> References: <4982BCCE.8030700@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: > Looking for thoughts on this. > > What would the Freemedia\Ambassadors think, > if we cannot include Unity-Respins as full Project sponsored spins. > Could we try work on them as an upgrade option. > > John (inode) voiced something similar previously: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-January/msg00198.html > > Where requester is sent the Official Media, > and the closest Unity-spin to the request date. > > It will cost ambassadors a bit extra on media\time\p+p. > But it will save the requester time\money, and > give them a fairly concurrent box. > > If feedback is positive, would others be willing to help me bring this > forward, to the relevant groups\committees? I don't see any reason that they can't just be another option those requesting media can choose, and those fulfilling requests can accept or not as they choose. If they want the official media they request it, if they would rather have a re-spin they request that. Why would someone want both? John From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 30 19:01:56 2009 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:01:56 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Freemedia + Unity Re-Spins, Thoughts? In-Reply-To: <4982BCCE.8030700@fedoraproject.org> References: <4982BCCE.8030700@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: 2009/1/30 Frank Murphy : > Looking for thoughts on this. > > What would the Freemedia\Ambassadors think, > if we cannot include Unity-Respins as full Project sponsored spins. > Could we try work on them as an upgrade option. > > > John (inode) voiced something similar previously: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-January/msg00198.html > > Where requester is sent the Official Media, > and the closest Unity-spin to the request date. > > It will cost ambassadors a bit extra on media\time\p+p. > But it will save the requester time\money, and > give them a fairly concurrent box. The idea is interesting, but I want to know if something like this could be useful. We have a new release each 6 month, and, generally local contacts or other entities burn CDs/DVDs in bulk so the cost are less that produce more time a small quantity of media. If I'm not wrong re-spins are released after 3 months, this means, we will have to cover each FY 4 releases (official and re-spins) and this means the cost will be more. BTW, if there are reasonable points, I think we can cosider it, maybe a suggestion from a legal POV and/or a Board opinion could better help having a decision. What I think is that, finally, we will have 4 releases, but 2 of them aren't releases but upgraded version. > If feedback is positive, would others be willing to help me bring this > forward, to the relevant groups\committees? If the arguments will be in favour of such initiative, stay sure FAmSCo will directly support it, asking Board and, if there will be no legal or other obstacles, we will work distributing resource to allow this production. Regards Francesco Ugolini From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 30 19:04:41 2009 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:04:41 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Docs at Fedora Activity Day (FAD) [SCaLE 7x 20 Feb.] In-Reply-To: References: <20090119232505.GD20940@calliope.phig.org> <20090127165636.GJ4822@calliope.phig.org> Message-ID: 2009/1/27 Clint Savage :> > So I say we get the word out about the FAD now. > > We'll be working on the User Guide for F10 and Packaging of Fonts > during the day. > > A full schedule can be found at > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_SCaLE_7x > > If you are interested, live near Southern California (even if it's a > few hours drive, like Las Vegas), come on down and participate for the > day. And hey, why not stay for the rest of SCaLE :) > > Cheers, > > Clint The initiative sounds good. I'm sure this is something an Ambassadors can't miss. I'm here to hear about what would happen, it's good to investigate in such initiatives :) Regards Francesco Ugolini From iuridiniz at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 19:05:00 2009 From: iuridiniz at gmail.com (Iuri Diniz) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:05:00 -0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Talk In-Reply-To: <7256ccd50901291833p6af7d805p3f104f19f2a47ac0@mail.gmail.com> References: <7256ccd50901291833p6af7d805p3f104f19f2a47ac0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2009/1/30 Rafael Gomes > Hi Guys, > > I translated the website talk.fedoraproject for brazilian portuguese and I > am interested to use this project in Brazil. > Nice job. > > Is there a documentation about configuration in twinkle or ekiga? Because > for both case in website there is this information "(Coming Soon)" > someone has done this but outside fedora wiki: http://fedorasolved.org/Members/renich/howtos/community/en/fas-voip-howto I don't know if you can use that, there's no mention about copyright. -- Iuri Diniz http://iuridiniz.com [Sou um agitador, n?o um advogado] http://blog.igdium.com [Linux on Limbo] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards Francesco Ugolini From francesco at ephisia.org Fri Jan 30 19:15:44 2009 From: francesco at ephisia.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:15:44 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] About fedora DVD distribution In-Reply-To: <1232772272.0fbce6c74ff376d18cb352e7fdc6273b@mail.in.com> References: <1232772177.af9c0e0c1dee63e5acad8b7ed1a5be96@mail.in.com> <1232772272.0fbce6c74ff376d18cb352e7fdc6273b@mail.in.com> Message-ID: 2009/1/24 Amirtham purendra raman bala : > How to distribute free DVD request came to me > Maybe asking your local contact (like Susmit who is in working on freemedia). There is an automated system under development, but I'm sure Susmit knows better than me all the process to join the Freemedia program and be able to start distributing media. Regards Francesco Ugolini From inode0 at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 19:19:22 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:19:22 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Freemedia + Unity Re-Spins, Thoughts? In-Reply-To: References: <4982BCCE.8030700@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > 2009/1/30 Frank Murphy : >> Looking for thoughts on this. >> >> What would the Freemedia\Ambassadors think, >> if we cannot include Unity-Respins as full Project sponsored spins. >> Could we try work on them as an upgrade option. >> >> >> John (inode) voiced something similar previously: >> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-January/msg00198.html >> >> Where requester is sent the Official Media, >> and the closest Unity-spin to the request date. >> >> It will cost ambassadors a bit extra on media\time\p+p. >> But it will save the requester time\money, and >> give them a fairly concurrent box. > > The idea is interesting, but I want to know if something like this > could be useful. We have a new release each 6 month, and, generally > local contacts or other entities burn CDs/DVDs in bulk so the cost are > less that produce more time a small quantity of media. If I'm not > wrong re-spins are released after 3 months, this means, we will have > to cover each FY 4 releases (official and re-spins) and this means the > cost will be more. It is more for people like me who burn some each month to send out. We can burn the re-spins just as easily and they generally are more useful to someone without a connection to the internet or with a very slow connection since after even 1 month there are a ton of updates pending from the official media. I only burn the media when I have requests pending for it, I don't stockpile it ahead of time. > BTW, if there are reasonable points, I think we can cosider it, maybe > a suggestion from a legal POV and/or a Board opinion could better help > having a decision. What I think is that, finally, we will have 4 > releases, but 2 of them aren't releases but upgraded version. I raised this question at a public board meeting and there seemed to be no objection as long as it was offered as a choice and it was made clear what it was. >> If feedback is positive, would others be willing to help me bring this >> forward, to the relevant groups\committees? > > If the arguments will be in favour of such initiative, stay sure > FAmSCo will directly support it, asking Board and, if there will be no > legal or other obstacles, we will work distributing resource to allow > this production. I don't see any downside to supporting re-spins as an option. We offer both at times at booths and the re-spins fly out the door as fast as they can be burned. John From francesco at ephisia.org Fri Jan 30 19:26:41 2009 From: francesco at ephisia.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:26:41 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Freemedia + Unity Re-Spins, Thoughts? In-Reply-To: References: <4982BCCE.8030700@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:19 PM, inode0 wrote: > > I don't see any downside to supporting re-spins as an option. We offer > both at times at booths and the re-spins fly out the door as fast as > they can be burned. > > John So, it seems a doable things, with few resources required and a lot of benefits from the community: from my own side nothing against. Regards Francesco Ugolini p.s. I've added this topic in my agenda, I hope to be able to remember it for next week FAmSCo meeting, meanwhile more feedbacks are welcomed (at least to have a wide view of what community think about this idea). From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 30 19:29:30 2009 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:29:30 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Organize NA and EMEA IRC meeting Message-ID: Sometime ago, I was asked to help organizing a shared meeting with EMEA and NA to share ideas about initiatives and have a better look at each other. I want to ask all the interest to think about it, once again, maybe trying to find a time/date to make this important meeting happening. Regards Francesco Ugolini From frankly3d at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 30 19:35:27 2009 From: frankly3d at fedoraproject.org (Frank Murphy) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:35:27 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Freemedia + Unity Re-Spins, Thoughts? In-Reply-To: References: <4982BCCE.8030700@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4983567F.3000604@fedoraproject.org> inode0 wrote: > > > I don't see any reason that they can't just be another option those > requesting media can choose, and those fulfilling requests can accept > or not as they choose. If they want the official media they request > it, if they would rather have a re-spin they request that. > > Why would someone want both? > The reason I stated both, is that at the moment: 1:Currently the FedoraProject stands over the Official Media, not the re-spins, that may change hopefully. 2: They will in all likelyhood, get the Official to install, 2b: if not they will get all the hints etc via various outlets. 2c: If they fail on Unity-respins, would it be all thrown back there to help? Which could\may overwhelm them (Unity-Volunteers). Which imho would suck. Frank From inode0 at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 19:45:37 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:45:37 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Freemedia + Unity Re-Spins, Thoughts? In-Reply-To: <4983567F.3000604@fedoraproject.org> References: <4982BCCE.8030700@fedoraproject.org> <4983567F.3000604@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > inode0 wrote: >> >> >> I don't see any reason that they can't just be another option those >> requesting media can choose, and those fulfilling requests can accept >> or not as they choose. If they want the official media they request >> it, if they would rather have a re-spin they request that. >> >> Why would someone want both? >> > > The reason I stated both, is that at the moment: > 1:Currently the FedoraProject stands over the Official Media, > not the re-spins, that may change hopefully. > > 2: They will in all likelyhood, get the Official to install, > 2b: if not they will get all the hints etc via various outlets. > 2c: If they fail on Unity-respins, would it be all thrown back > there to help? Which could\may overwhelm them (Unity-Volunteers). > Which imho would suck. Yeah, ok. How well tested re-spins are before they get pushed is the one reasonable argument I've heard against this. I'm not saying they aren't well tested, but I don't really know how well tested they are. Are there many people in general who have issues with the re-spins not working on their hardware? John From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 30 19:46:26 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (Joerg Simon) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:46:26 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Message-ID: <200901302046.30469.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear Ambassadors, right now some so called FOSS events appear with a target audience which is more focused for government agencies and bussines. To have Speakers at that events could be a great chance for Fedora to attract them for sponsoring or contribution. Here are some points i have made already in a discussion with a small group of people before. Francesco suggested to invite all Ambassadors to participate in this discussion. There are several topics that we could place to attract government agencies and business, i am sure they will not know about that right now - and i hope that we find more here on that list - or like Francesco suggested collect in a WikiPage. - Company & Inhouse Builds! - a company who build software as FOSS or modify FOSS for their own Enterprise Servers can use the benefit of Fedora Processes and Infrastructure as well as the wide spreading of our Distribution with contributing to Fedora + EPEL - this is good for the company and for Fedora. This could be enhanced by a technical Track, to show them how they can package and spread their Software within own Fedora Spins ... - Community Consulting! - show them the brilliance of our technology with spacewalk, cobbler, func, puppet, FDS, KVM, FEL, our OLPC Success... Talk about the possibility that a Fedora Contributor teaches a company for a donation to the Fedora Project technicaly to see what the future will bring and to use that knowledge for their enterprise enviroments because this Enterprise Servers are build from our roots (or whatever) ... - Build a FOSS Career! - show the government why they should support using and teaching of FOSS in educational institutions Show them success stories we have learned from Kushal or Chitlesh or Rodrigo or Paul - show the bussines why they should hire FOSS Contributors (peer certification, ...) - show the bussines why they should sponsor local FOSS Communities ... - show them how to become a FOSS Contributor inside Fedora. Imagine a government which decides that kids in school get teached leading edge software without licencing cost and with the possibility to enhance and change that. Imagine a Fedora Artwork Contest in all Schools of your Country We can enrich Events with valuable content and give them real FOSS Partnership Spirit. CU Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From frankly3d at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 30 19:55:24 2009 From: frankly3d at fedoraproject.org (Frank Murphy) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:55:24 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Freemedia + Unity Re-Spins, Thoughts? In-Reply-To: References: <4982BCCE.8030700@fedoraproject.org> <4983567F.3000604@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <49835B2C.5050804@fedoraproject.org> inode0 wrote: > > Yeah, ok. How well tested re-spins are before they get pushed is the > one reasonable argument I've heard against this. At the moment these are unknowns. I'm not saying they > aren't well tested, but I don't really know how well tested they are. > Are there many people in general who have issues with the re-spins not > working on their hardware? > > John > But in the interim, they should work as a pure "update" disk\stick whatever. I will try liaise with the Unity ppl, see what sort of feedback they have had, re the re-spins. Frank From stickster at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 20:02:21 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:02:21 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora DVDs for Red Hat AUS Message-ID: <20090130200221.GM28663@localhost.localdomain> You guys will hopefully forgive me for being not quite up to date on the latest procedures! :-) What's the best way for me to get about 40 F10 DVDs sent to the Red Hat office in Sydney, Australia? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From francesco at ephisia.org Fri Jan 30 20:11:07 2009 From: francesco at ephisia.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:11:07 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora In-Reply-To: <200901302046.30469.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200901302046.30469.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: 2009/1/30 Joerg Simon : > Dear Ambassadors, > > right now some so called FOSS events appear with a target audience which is > more focused for government agencies and bussines. To have Speakers at that > events could be a great chance for Fedora to attract them for sponsoring or First of all, a big thank goes to Joerg who is constantly paying attention to community processes, activities and problems. I think those points are as interesting as important to start a wise discussion on Fedora and business related events partecipation. Let FAmSCo know what the community thinks about it, giving suggestion on Fedora and business (see Joerg post for what this means) and adding new amazing points to this great list. It's really important a community participation to better focus our presence at events and giving all of us, as Ambassadors, usefull and well done tools. This from my POV, now it your turn :) Regards Francesco Ugolini From david at gnsa.us Fri Jan 30 20:05:34 2009 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:05:34 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora DVDs for Red Hat AUS In-Reply-To: <20090130200221.GM28663@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090130200221.GM28663@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: 2009/1/30 Paul W. Frields : > You guys will hopefully forgive me for being not quite up to date on > the latest procedures! :-) What's the best way for me to get about 40 > F10 DVDs sent to the Red Hat office in Sydney, Australia? > > -- > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > If it's coming from NA (and there may be a better option there, I don't know) it's probably easiest to fill out a ticket here: https://fedorahosted.org/famnarequests/ From herlo at fedoraproject.org Fri Jan 30 22:42:22 2009 From: herlo at fedoraproject.org (Clint Savage) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:42:22 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Organize NA and EMEA IRC meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > Sometime ago, I was asked to help organizing a shared meeting with > EMEA and NA to share ideas about initiatives and have a better look at > each other. > > I want to ask all the interest to think about it, once again, maybe > trying to find a time/date to make this important meeting happening. > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini I've been wanting to do something like this for some time. Sounds like a great idea to do this *at least* once a quarter. And this could/should apply to other regions as well methinks. Cheers, Clint From herlo1 at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 22:45:15 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:45:15 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora DVDs for Red Hat AUS In-Reply-To: References: <20090130200221.GM28663@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:05 PM, David Nalley wrote: > 2009/1/30 Paul W. Frields : >> You guys will hopefully forgive me for being not quite up to date on >> the latest procedures! :-) What's the best way for me to get about 40 >> F10 DVDs sent to the Red Hat office in Sydney, Australia? >> >> -- >> Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ >> gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 >> http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ >> irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > If it's coming from NA (and there may be a better option there, I > don't know) it's probably easiest to fill out a ticket here: > > https://fedorahosted.org/famnarequests/ I also think we should send as many as would be the best pricing of *at least* 40 discs. I'd hate to send only 40 and them ask a week later for another 40. Thoughts? Clint From francesco at ephisia.org Fri Jan 30 22:52:39 2009 From: francesco at ephisia.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:52:39 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Organize NA and EMEA IRC meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Clint Savage wrote: > I've been wanting to do something like this for some time. Sounds > like a great idea to do this *at least* once a quarter. And this > could/should apply to other regions as well methinks. > > Cheers, > > Clint The first goal now is to have, finally, a first meeting and understand what are the common goals, how each part worked on a task and generally to "understand what was done, just to not do that again" and improve community interaction. Sure, I mentioned NA and EMEA because there was a preliminary discussion with those ones some time ago, but, for sure, such initiative could/should be replicated with other regions too. Thank you for your ideas. Of course, feedbacks are always welcome ;) Regards Francesco Ugolini From mspevack at redhat.com Sat Jan 31 01:32:36 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:32:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora DVDs for Red Hat AUS In-Reply-To: References: <20090130200221.GM28663@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Clint Savage wrote: >> https://fedorahosted.org/famnarequests/ > > I also think we should send as many as would be the best pricing of > *at least* 40 discs. I'd hate to send only 40 and them ask a week > later for another 40. > > Thoughts? Nice to send them some stuff to take care of the one-off request, of course. But my real thought is: Why aren't the RH folks in Australia just making their own, and (if necessary) asking for permission to charge it to the Community budget? --Max From irashadul at gmail.com Sat Jan 31 05:35:27 2009 From: irashadul at gmail.com (Rashadul Islam) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:05:27 +0030 Subject: [Ambassadors] Organize NA and EMEA IRC meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17fa59580901302135w6ecabf97u1366f5c79a85c01a@mail.gmail.com> I really appreciate such initiative and it could be a great idea to arrange the meeting as a regular meeting bi-monthly. On 1/30/09, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Clint Savage > wrote: >> I've been wanting to do something like this for some time. Sounds >> like a great idea to do this *at least* once a quarter. And this >> could/should apply to other regions as well methinks. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Clint > > The first goal now is to have, finally, a first meeting and understand > what are the common goals, how each part worked on a task and > generally to "understand what was done, just to not do that again" and > improve community interaction. > > Sure, I mentioned NA and EMEA because there was a preliminary > discussion with those ones some time ago, but, for sure, such > initiative could/should be replicated with other regions too. > > Thank you for your ideas. > > Of course, feedbacks are always welcome ;) > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Rashadul Islam ---------------------- Fedora Ambassador Canada/Montreal GPG Key 5557BFAC Finger Print 3869 732D FC43 92B4 2805 85DD C072 0238 4C74 3A69 From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Sat Jan 31 07:57:57 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:27:57 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] About fedora DVD distribution In-Reply-To: References: <1232772177.af9c0e0c1dee63e5acad8b7ed1a5be96@mail.in.com> <1232772272.0fbce6c74ff376d18cb352e7fdc6273b@mail.in.com> Message-ID: <1233388678.3620.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 20:15 +0100, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > 2009/1/24 Amirtham purendra raman bala : > > How to distribute free DVD request came to me > > > > Maybe asking your local contact (like Susmit who is in working on > freemedia). There is an automated system under development, but I'm > sure Susmit knows better than me all the process to join the Freemedia > program and be able to start distributing media. > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list hi, I am a member of the free-media program for India. What problem are you facing exactly?Log on to #fedora-india on the IRC and I'm sure the others there will help you out. regards, Ankur irc : franciscod From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Sat Jan 31 08:55:18 2009 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:55:18 -0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] I Love LUCI -- Linux UC Irvine in April 2009 Message-ID: <7a0d56080901310055v12f72e07v39c296a1793770bb@mail.gmail.com> Hi, all -- Of particular interest to North American folks: Over the past couple of weeks Joseph Smidt and I have discussed an event to be held at the University of California Irvine in the spring. Originally, I was going to give a mere presentation at UCI, but after lengthy discussions, it has grown into something larger. What Joseph has come up with is Linux UC Irvine -- LUCI -- an event which will take place in April of this year. LUCI serves as an introduction of Linux to the students and faculty of the university, as well as serving as a basis for starting a Linux Users Group on campus and, as a long-range goal, holding twice-a-year Linux festivals every year on campus. While the format for this inaugural event needs to be hashed out -- I'm imagining a presentation along with demonstrations of Fedora would be a main ingredient of the event -- and other logistical facets need to be addressed, I wanted to make everyone aware of this event and ask anyone in the Southern California area (as well as anyone else who might be interested) who wants to participate to contact either Joseph or me. The wiki for this event is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LUCI Thanks, Joseph, for carrying the ball on this project and I'm hoping others will join up. This project, of course, is in the planning stages, and Joseph and I can answer any questions (and, Joseph, if I missed anything, feel free to jump in here). 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Cross wrote: > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Frank Murphy > wrote: >> Looking for thoughts on this. >> >> What would the Freemedia\Ambassadors think, >> if we cannot include Unity-Respins as full Project sponsored spins. >> Could we try work on them as an upgrade option. >> >> >> John (inode) voiced something similar previously: >> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-January/msg00198.html >> >> Where requester is sent the Official Media, >> and the closest Unity-spin to the request date. >> >> It will cost ambassadors a bit extra on media\time\p+p. >> But it will save the requester time\money, and >> give them a fairly concurrent box. >> >> If feedback is positive, would others be willing to help me bring this >> forward, to the relevant groups\committees? >> >> Frank >> > > I am a newcomer to the free media program, since December 2008. I am > here to help. At this point I have more questions than opinions. Sure > there are some historical background that is unknown for me. I think > it is better to ask early than to complain later. I will love to be > able to distribute media up-to-date, to save people (me included) from > having to download 500+ Mb to update a fresh install. Specially where > internet connections does not help much to speed update. > > It is Unity re-spin official fedora? > The Fedora Unity Re-Spins are not official Fedora media, but we do have trademark approval from the board so that it can be called "Fedora". > Unity re-spin is available using jigdo, or at least it seems to be. > Why there is no jigdo for official media? > Actually there is jigdo's for the official media. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From kanarip at kanarip.com Sat Jan 31 21:44:21 2009 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:44:21 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Freemedia + Unity Re-Spins, Thoughts? In-Reply-To: References: <4982BCCE.8030700@fedoraproject.org> <4983567F.3000604@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4984C635.4050901@kanarip.com> inode0 wrote: > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Frank Murphy > wrote: >> inode0 wrote: >>> >>> I don't see any reason that they can't just be another option those >>> requesting media can choose, and those fulfilling requests can accept >>> or not as they choose. If they want the official media they request >>> it, if they would rather have a re-spin they request that. >>> >>> Why would someone want both? >>> >> The reason I stated both, is that at the moment: >> 1:Currently the FedoraProject stands over the Official Media, >> not the re-spins, that may change hopefully. >> >> 2: They will in all likelyhood, get the Official to install, >> 2b: if not they will get all the hints etc via various outlets. >> 2c: If they fail on Unity-respins, would it be all thrown back >> there to help? Which could\may overwhelm them (Unity-Volunteers). >> Which imho would suck. > > Yeah, ok. How well tested re-spins are before they get pushed is the > one reasonable argument I've heard against this. I'm not saying they > aren't well tested, but I don't really know how well tested they are. > Are there many people in general who have issues with the re-spins not > working on their hardware? > For the record, the Fedora Unity Re-Spins are very well tested; We use the same test cases as Fedora QA does for a given release, and often add additional tests for things we think may have been fixed in the various applications related to the installation procedures, and even fix those ourselves if need be. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From kanarip at kanarip.com Sat Jan 31 21:51:15 2009 From: kanarip at kanarip.com (Jeroen van Meeuwen) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:51:15 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Freemedia + Unity Re-Spins, Thoughts? In-Reply-To: <49835B2C.5050804@fedoraproject.org> References: <4982BCCE.8030700@fedoraproject.org> <4983567F.3000604@fedoraproject.org> <49835B2C.5050804@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4984C7D3.8030006@kanarip.com> Frank Murphy wrote: > But in the interim, they should work as a pure "update" disk\stick > whatever. I will try liaise with the Unity ppl, > see what sort of feedback they have had, re the re-spins. > I'm both the composer of the Fedora Unity Re-Spins, as well as an Ambassador to the Fedora Project, like lots of the people within Fedora Unity, so I'll be watching this thread as well ;-) The feedback on Fedora Unity Re-Spins vary; Some people are very, very much appreciative to the fixes that are in the Fedora Unity Re-Spins, because they enable them to install or deploy Fedora in a way that turned out to not be possible with GA media (General Availability media). Things that are fixed in the Fedora Unity Re-Spins may vary from i586 hardware compatibility, to simple fixes in pykickstart that simply needed to be during the media compose. Some people come in #fedora-unity on FreeNode or log in to bugs.fedoraunity.org explicitly requesting we fix a certain issue with the next release of our Re-Spins, which, if we find their use-case appealing and if we think we can fix it (and test the fix), we'll happily do. Some people come in #fedora-unity or mail us requesting when the next Re-Spin is to be released, and/or whether we are planning on doing a Re-Spin for a given Fedora release any time soon. Needless to say, the Fedora Unity Re-Spins are often much anticipated for by the community, as well as utilized a great deal (we see thousands of downloads a month). This, for Fedora Unity at least, are the reasons, amongst others, we think make it very much worth our efforts in creating and testing and distributing the Re-Spins. Whether it is something the FreeMedia program wishes to adopt when distributing Fedora amongst those that request Free Media, is up to you ;-) Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip From inode0 at gmail.com Sat Jan 31 21:51:39 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:51:39 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Freemedia + Unity Re-Spins, Thoughts? In-Reply-To: <4984C635.4050901@kanarip.com> References: <4982BCCE.8030700@fedoraproject.org> <4983567F.3000604@fedoraproject.org> <4984C635.4050901@kanarip.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > inode0 wrote: >> Yeah, ok. How well tested re-spins are before they get pushed is the >> one reasonable argument I've heard against this. I'm not saying they >> aren't well tested, but I don't really know how well tested they are. >> Are there many people in general who have issues with the re-spins not >> working on their hardware? >> > > For the record, the Fedora Unity Re-Spins are very well tested; We use the > same test cases as Fedora QA does for a given release, and often add > additional tests for things we think may have been fixed in the various > applications related to the installation procedures, and even fix those > ourselves if need be. Brilliant! Thanks for clearing that up. Now I have heard no good arguments against proceeding with this as an option for the freemedia program. :) John