[Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2009-03-17

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(07:59:59 PM) inode0: FAmNA Meeting - Roll Call
(08:00:17 PM) ***lcafiero is larry o'cafiero
(08:00:49 PM) workman161: .fas tdfischer
(08:00:49 PM) zodbot: workman161: tdfischer 'Trever Fischer' <wm161 at wm161.net>
(08:01:08 PM) workman161: I'm rather new btw. Joined last week.
(08:01:15 PM) inode0: welcome workman161
(08:01:33 PM) ajamison5579: welcome i have been a ambassador for a few
months but first meeting
(08:02:07 PM) inode0: ajamison5579: please identify yourself like any
of the above
(08:02:29 PM) inode0: prefixing your last name with o' is optional tonight
(08:02:45 PM) workman161: hehe
(08:02:54 PM) ajamison5579: so what change the nick to my name?
(08:03:01 PM) quaid: <== McQuaid
(08:03:09 PM) crossbytes: Kevin O'Higgins here
(08:03:14 PM) inode0: ajamison5579: just let us know your real name please
(08:03:21 PM) ajamison5579: <== Andrew Jamison
(08:03:24 PM) inode0: thanks
(08:03:27 PM) drewmeigs: hi, everyone. i am Drew Meigs.
(08:03:36 PM) inode0: Hi Drew
(08:04:20 PM) inode0: tonight's light agenda is here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-03-17
(08:04:40 PM) inode0: Anyone have any announcements?
(08:05:14 PM) workman161: not I
(08:05:22 PM) ajamison5579: nor I
(08:05:38 PM) ***inode0 announces he caused another fuss and leaves it at that
(08:06:01 PM) inode0: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents
(08:06:25 PM) inode0: Anyone have any events that need attention tonight?
(08:06:51 PM) ***inode0 notes we likely will have some discussion of
the Montreal Linux Symposium later in tonight's program
(08:08:11 PM) inode0: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget
(08:08:18 PM) inode0: herlo: ping
(08:09:35 PM) inode0: I will note that I added a $750 line item for
FAD F12 into the Q1 budget.
(08:09:54 PM) workman161: Would polos fit into T-Shirts?
(08:10:12 PM) quaid: there is no link for that, what is FAD F12?  A
Boston FAD in June?
(08:10:22 PM) inode0: FAD F12 occurs early in Q2 so this money may be
used for unexpected expenses if needed.
(08:10:33 PM) inode0: quaid: yes, boston FAD in June
(08:11:04 PM) workman161: Are there dates in particular yet?
(08:11:22 PM) workman161: I'd need to see if my spring semester is done by then
(08:11:25 PM) inode0: Not yet, but it will be organized in the coming weeks
(08:11:31 PM) workman161: coolbeans
(08:11:39 PM) inode0: It has to be a bit after F11 is released
(08:12:13 PM) ajamison5579: makes sense
(08:12:33 PM) quaid: inode0: btw, how closed are we on Q1?
(08:12:48 PM) inode0: I don't understand that question?!
(08:12:57 PM) quaid: sorry
(08:13:01 PM) quaid: I don't see mysql con on there
(08:13:09 PM) quaid: but lcafiero and I were discussing being there
(08:13:16 PM) quaid: but maybe not "for" Fedora, per se
(08:13:25 PM) quaid: that is, not with a booth, just in polos and
wandering around
(08:13:26 PM) inode0: please add it and let us know if it needs funding soon
(08:13:30 PM) ***quaid makes no sense tonight
(08:13:34 PM) ajamison5579: what is SELF
(08:13:38 PM) quaid: ok, probably just amb kit
(08:13:42 PM) ***quaid eol
(08:13:42 PM) inode0: Southeast Linuxfest
(08:14:23 PM) inode0: our main plan for tonight was to hammer out a
few details about the budget, where is herlo?
(08:15:01 PM) ***inode0 thinks if we move on he will show up
(08:15:02 PM) ***herlo is not here teaching
(08:15:08 PM) ***djf_jeff enter silently ;)
(08:15:39 PM) inode0: did herlo not tell me earlier we were discussing
something about the budget tonight?
(08:15:51 PM) ***inode0 may be confused
(08:16:26 PM) ***ajamison5579 watches the dust balls roll by
(08:16:30 PM) inode0: ok
(08:16:42 PM) inode0: we are waiting to hear from a couple of people
(08:17:01 PM) inode0: herlo is about to order some cool banners/stands
for our event boxes
(08:17:05 PM) lcafiero: on the mysql conference, I don't think we were
going to have a booth -- red hat already has one (and I'll be working
in the dbEntrance booth)
(08:17:24 PM) inode0: DemonJester is looking into tattoos and case badges iirc
(08:17:43 PM) inode0: we have ample budget set aside for all those purchases now
(08:18:10 PM) quaid: lcafiero: ok, I only have a day to devote as it is
(08:18:19 PM) inode0: We have some money left for events, is LFNW
settled on $750?
(08:18:22 PM) lcafiero: quaid: same here
(08:18:27 PM) inode0: Or did we just make that up?
(08:18:35 PM) ajamison5579: cool i want to get a perminent Fedora logo
tattooed on my forhead
(08:18:58 PM) inode0: you have to pay for that by winning a bar bet ajamison5579
(08:19:21 PM) ajamison5579: lol i would loose i do not drink ;0
(08:19:54 PM) lcafiero: I think $750 was made up.
(08:20:05 PM) inode0: Is it plausible?
(08:20:52 PM) inode0: It seems a reasonable amount given what we have
been doing at regional events, but we might have some flexibility
right now.
(08:21:26 PM) ***ke4qqq is here but late
(08:21:45 PM) inode0: ke4qqq: do you have any event or budget items to discuss?
(08:21:55 PM) ke4qqq: sELF and FLS
(08:22:08 PM) inode0: please take the mic
(08:22:24 PM) ***lcafiero crunches some numbers for LFNW
(08:23:06 PM) ke4qqq: so essentially I'd like to fund/sponsor SELF,
but I have a conflict there - the wiki page for the budget has $1k,
however I would abstain from voting on that particular matter.
(08:23:10 PM) ***ajamison5579 stepping to the kitchen for coffee brb
(08:23:20 PM) ke4qqq: IIRC my total expenses for FLS were around $60.
(08:23:29 PM) ***ke4qqq waits for questions and flames
(08:23:44 PM) inode0: please just add the FLS stuff
(08:23:56 PM) ke4qqq: ok
(08:24:13 PM) inode0: My opinion on SELF is that we should support it
as much as we can this year but
(08:24:44 PM) inode0: since it doesn't actually happen until Q2 I'd
like to wait a bit before sending them the additional 1K
(08:25:08 PM) inode0: I don't see any problem doing it though this quarter
(08:25:17 PM) ke4qqq: additional?
(08:25:32 PM) inode0: It was my understanding we gave them $500 in Q4
(08:25:39 PM) ke4qqq: we did not
(08:25:57 PM) ke4qqq: we talked about doing so, but it never happened
(08:26:09 PM) inode0: either way it doesn't change anything I just
said, strike the word additional
(08:26:52 PM) ke4qqq: what does the event calendar look like for next quarter?
(08:27:19 PM) inode0: If they need the money this month I'd be ok with
that, if they don't I wait until later in the Q to send it so if we
have an emergency of some sort we can have flexibility.
(08:27:58 PM) inode0: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents
(08:28:11 PM) ke4qqq: I thought you said wait til Q2. My onlyy concern
is that we have FAD, SELF, OS Bridge, NECC, MLS, and OSCON all on Q2
(08:28:31 PM) inode0: I would prefer to fund it this quarter if we
can, maybe we can add a bit more next quarter as well.
(08:28:40 PM) ***ajamison5579 is back with hot coffee
(08:28:42 PM) inode0: No, wait until later in Q1
(08:29:24 PM) ke4qqq: ok - as I said - I come as a petitioner on this
one not as someone who'd make the decision
(08:29:37 PM) ***inode0 gives +1 to using 1K from Q1 unless something
dire arises
(08:30:11 PM) ke4qqq: hsa Karlie and Kam asked for funding?  are we
funding pizza fro NYLUG?? /me apologizes for missing things up tilnow
(08:30:21 PM) ajamison5579: when is the total alotment per quater decided?
(08:30:23 PM) lcafiero: Could we revisit LFNW before making that decision?
(08:30:27 PM) inode0: Is SELF in dire need in the next few weeks?
(08:30:42 PM) ke4qqq: no
(08:31:01 PM) ke4qqq: ajamison5579: theoretically the month before the
quarter starts
(08:31:22 PM) inode0: ke4qqq: my thinking is by May 1st nothing dire
has hit us we send SELF the 1K
(08:31:37 PM) ke4qqq: ok, works for me
(08:31:58 PM) inode0: if we need to pinch $500 of it then we make it
up at the beginning of Q2
(08:33:02 PM) lcafiero: I can live with that.
(08:33:05 PM) inode0: lcafiero: we can revisit LFNW right now if you are ready
(08:33:17 PM) ***ke4qqq would like to talk about sponsoring Barcamp
rochester and nylug before we close
(08:33:34 PM) lcafiero: I will yield to the senator from LIberty.
(08:33:46 PM) ke4qqq: go ahead lcafiero
(08:33:49 PM) inode0: we aren't closing, but iirc DemonJester talked
to everyone about those events and they needed no funds
(08:34:16 PM) inode0: just media and swag which had been or will be provided
(08:34:35 PM) lcafiero: We may need more than $750 for LFNW.
(08:34:37 PM) ke4qqq: ok
(08:34:57 PM) inode0: wait, I don't know anything about NYLUG
(08:35:01 PM) inode0: jds2001: ping
(08:35:18 PM) ke4qqq: I pinged him a moment ago in #f-a
(08:35:57 PM) inode0: we can certainly buy them pizza, I have no
objection as long as jds2001 talks incessantly about Fedora while they
eat it :)
(08:36:04 PM) ke4qqq: lol
(08:36:08 PM) lcafiero: There's an added event to LFNW, which is quaid
and I are scheduled to speak in Corvallis at Oregon State on the
Thursday prior to LFNW.
(08:36:52 PM) workman161: I've got a question about an event when we
get a chance
(08:36:54 PM) inode0: ok, what do you need?
(08:37:16 PM) inode0: workman161: I'll come back to you before we move on
(08:37:22 PM) workman161: k
(08:37:30 PM) lcafiero: Well, that's the thing: I haven't done the
entire calculation yet, as we were planning to drive up and pick up
people along the way.
(08:37:49 PM) ***ke4qqq isn't grokking - what's the added expense?
(08:37:55 PM) lcafiero: quaid: feel free to jump in here.
(08:38:52 PM) lcafiero: grok away, ke4qqq, and I wish I had an exact
answer for you. But we were talking about renting a minivan to make
the trip to pick up a couple of folks in Portland on the way up, and
the out-of-state rates would put the rental itself at around $4-500,
by my estimation
(08:39:19 PM) quaid: or a full van
(08:39:21 PM) ke4qqq: how many people are we talking about?? how many days?
(08:39:28 PM) quaid: if we get linuxknight and others in portland
(08:39:44 PM) quaid: ok, we need to get confirmation from linuxknight
and poelcat
(08:39:52 PM) lcafiero: right.
(08:39:55 PM) ke4qqq: quaid: any chance this could come out of
commarch travel budget?
(08:40:07 PM) lcafiero: However, there's an extra day's lodging in Corvallis.
(08:40:22 PM) lcafiero: The lodging in Bellingham is $89/night per room.
(08:40:41 PM) quaid: ke4qqq: that was my plan, to rent the van plus my
hotel room as my T&E
(08:40:42 PM) ke4qqq: so we need 1250? for LFNW? or 1500?
(08:41:01 PM) djf_jeff: lcafiero: excuse if I don't know the US, do
you talk about portland in Maine?
(08:41:08 PM) quaid: djf_jeff: Oregon
(08:41:11 PM) lcafiero: Portland in Oregon, djf_jeff
(08:41:32 PM) djf_jeff: ah, ok, a little bit far for me ;)
(08:41:32 PM) ***ke4qqq likes quaids plan :)
(08:41:34 PM) quaid: ke4qqq: hmm, ideally LFNW wouldn't be *more* than SCaLE ...
(08:41:41 PM) quaid: spevack: you awake?
(08:41:45 PM) quaid: anyway, I'll try to get that sorted
(08:41:54 PM) lcafiero: Ah, that was what I was hoping for -- some
clarity from quaid
(08:42:03 PM) quaid: I am talking afaik, giving the first run of
'Participate or Die'
(08:42:12 PM) ***inode0 votes for leaving it as $750 for now and not
micromanaging all these details
(08:42:20 PM) ke4qqq: If it gets a mass of contributors together I am
ok spending more money...
(08:42:27 PM) quaid: ok, sounds reasonable
(08:42:27 PM) ***lcafiero is envious of quaid's quality in that regard.
(08:42:30 PM) lcafiero: Okay,
(08:42:36 PM) ***ke4qqq thinks we have some breathing room - and can
even temp. sacrifice self if need be
(08:42:47 PM) ***quaid bbiab
(08:42:48 PM) lcafiero: I was unaware of the T&E and didn't figure that in.
(08:42:59 PM) ***lcafiero breathes a lot easier now.
(08:43:00 PM) inode0: generally I want to give an event a reasonable
amount but leave the details of how best to spend it to the event
owner
(08:43:28 PM) lcafiero: Right, and needless to say that if the event
doesn't spend all the money, what's left goes back.
(08:43:36 PM) ***lcafiero hopes that's how it works, no?
(08:43:43 PM) ke4qqq: generally
(08:43:48 PM) lcafiero: Gotcha
(08:43:59 PM) inode0: if you guys need a couple hundred more from us
for the extra stop to talk with folks in oregon that won't be a
problem
(08:44:06 PM) ajamison5579: nah Inode0 pockets unused event monies
(08:44:34 PM) ke4qqq: lcafiero: make sure that's a sep. event on
/Events and on the budget page if you don't mind
(08:44:34 PM) lcafiero: Well, I'll sort out the numbers with quaid.
(08:44:42 PM) workman161: bah, who pockets money these days
(08:44:43 PM) lcafiero: ke4qqq: okay
(08:44:49 PM) workman161: anyone normal spends it on hookers and blow
(08:45:24 PM) inode0: workman161: we log and post these minutes, just
so you know
(08:45:41 PM) workman161: sorry, forgot
(08:45:52 PM) lcafiero: so for the record, none of us spends money on
what workman161 mentioned. Not even workman161
(08:45:58 PM) workman161: true
(08:46:03 PM) ajamison5579: lol
(08:46:08 PM) ajamison5579: +1111111
(08:46:27 PM) inode0: alright, so let's move to workman161's event question
(08:46:36 PM) workman161: ok
(08:46:52 PM) workman161: Are there any plans for fedora to be at Ohio
LinuxFest?
(08:46:57 PM) inode0: yes
(08:47:11 PM) workman161: cool
(08:47:16 PM) workman161: I didn't see it on the events page
(08:47:17 PM) inode0: maybe
(08:47:31 PM) inode0: we are always there but I don't see it yet either
(08:47:42 PM) ke4qqq: no owner yet
(08:47:48 PM) ajamison5579: i am going to try a be there
(08:47:50 PM) ke4qqq: and hence it hasn't appeared
(08:47:50 PM) workman161: columbus is a stone's throw away from my university
(08:47:51 PM) inode0: is that october?
(08:47:56 PM) ke4qqq: yes
(08:47:57 PM) workman161: september
(08:48:11 PM) workman161: Columbus, Ohio, September 25-26, 2009
(08:48:54 PM) inode0: We have a FAD at it last year, great time for everyone
(08:49:11 PM) lcafiero: back when FAD was Fedora Ambassador Day
(08:49:14 PM) crossbytes: working on attending LFNW waiting for DR
release due to back injury
(08:49:47 PM) lcafiero: You're in washington, crossbytes?
(08:49:58 PM) inode0: OLF is a fairly big regional event, we should
try to find an owner with some experience for that one if we can
(08:50:04 PM) crossbytes: VAncouver right next to Portland
(08:50:18 PM) ke4qqq: several with lots of experience in and around colunbus
(08:50:20 PM) ke4qqq: columbus
(08:50:21 PM) lcafiero: And that's on the way (I know Vancouver WA)
(08:50:29 PM) workman161: I'd like to help out a bit with OLF if possible
(08:50:30 PM) crossbytes: Yea
(08:50:39 PM) lcafiero: +1 to crossbytes and workman161
(08:50:41 PM) workman161: iirc, my fall semester starts before then so
I'd be able to make it
(08:50:52 PM) inode0: workman161 and ajamison5579 are more than
welcome to help out and get some booth experience
(08:51:11 PM) ajamison5579: If i can make it sure
(08:51:31 PM) ajamison5579: not sure yet but it is about 2 hours from
here so i should have no problem
(08:51:39 PM) inode0: ok, veering off now to Montreal Linux Symposium
(08:51:45 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: the floor is yours
(08:52:07 PM) ke4qqq: ?
(08:52:17 PM) inode0: were we not finished there?
(08:52:25 PM) ***ke4qqq has a question for djf_jeff re mls
(08:52:32 PM) inode0: oh, good
(08:52:42 PM) djf_jeff: ke4qqq: go for it
(08:53:08 PM) ke4qqq: djf_jeff: is there some metric way of measuring
the number of people - NA isn't used to seeing Linux shows with 15k in
attendance - that's normally reserved for the rest of the world.
(08:53:46 PM) djf_jeff: ke4qqq: where did you see 15k?
(08:53:56 PM) ke4qqq: [[Events]]
(08:54:15 PM) djf_jeff: hum, it's not me that put that part there ;)
(08:54:38 PM) ***inode0 thinks that is wrong
(08:55:06 PM) ***djf_jeff too!
(08:55:28 PM) djf_jeff: at least, there will not be enough place for
1/100 that's for sure
(08:56:12 PM) ke4qqq: the reported 700 last year per greg k-h
(08:56:22 PM) djf_jeff: I try to find out who did that ;) anyway, the
estimate is ~700 peoples when it was in Ottawa
(08:57:30 PM) djf_jeff: I have read that the estimate for this year is
~500, a little bit less than 15k ;)
(08:57:50 PM) ajamison5579:  just a smidge
(08:58:06 PM) ***ke4qqq feels a bit better now
(08:58:17 PM) ***djf_jeff also!
(08:58:25 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: did you have some other comments about MLS?
(08:58:41 PM) djf_jeff: so, I talk with Andrew and get some answers
but he did not reply to my last mail, I will ping him at the end of
the week
(08:59:17 PM) djf_jeff: I have ask him about booth, room, hardware and
the possibility of a bus from Boston
(08:59:49 PM) ke4qqq: who is Andrew and does he have a bus?
(09:00:03 PM) djf_jeff: Andrew is one of the organizer of the MLS
(09:00:14 PM) djf_jeff: Andrew Hutton
(09:00:23 PM) ajamison5579: I am an Andrew also ;)
(09:00:31 PM) ajamison5579: but not that one
(09:00:45 PM) ke4qqq: ahhh ok
(09:01:32 PM) inode0: any more event business for tonight?
(09:01:51 PM) djf_jeff: so, the ball roll for now and thing get in
shape well. Andrew is helpful and more than happy to see us there
(09:01:52 PM) inode0: thanks to everyone for the updates on events
(09:01:58 PM) lcafiero: One more thing
(09:02:06 PM) ajamison5579: why thanks djf
(09:02:11 PM) ajamison5579: oh wrong Andrew
(09:02:14 PM) ajamison5579: ;)
(09:02:30 PM) dthomasdigital: Hi from New Mexico new here
(09:02:36 PM) lcafiero: dthomasdigital is david thomas, a new
ambassador, I wanted to introduce him because he is organizing a linux
event in New Mexico in November.
(09:02:57 PM) ajamison5579: Dave thomas? the actor, Wendys owner or
just a coincidence
(09:03:17 PM) inode0: Hi again dthomasdigital
(09:03:27 PM) dthomasdigital: The never give me free food at Wehdy's
(09:03:34 PM) dthomasdigital: Wendy's
(09:03:52 PM) inode0: we will buy you the meal of your choice at
Wendy's when you change your cloak
(09:04:01 PM) dthomasdigital: http://www.newmexicolinuxfest.org if you
want to see what we are up to
(09:04:38 PM) dthomasdigital: Now now I run 5 distros and everyone of
them has there strengths
(09:04:58 PM) ajamison5579: lol
(09:04:59 PM) inode0: only one offers free Wendy's for using its cloak :)
(09:05:15 PM) ke4qqq: lol
(09:05:25 PM) dthomasdigital: inode0 that's a pretty good point
(09:05:26 PM) ajamison5579: but he is Dave thomas he fouded wendys
(09:06:02 PM) ajamison5579: ok eenough picking on poor old Dave
(09:06:10 PM) inode0: dthomasdigital: more seriously,
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents
(09:06:45 PM) inode0: I assume to plan to have a Fedora presence at it
(09:06:50 PM) inode0: +you
(09:06:59 PM) inode0: strike all that
(09:07:21 PM) inode0: you plan a Fedora presence at the event, right?
(09:07:34 PM) lcafiero: I plan to be there.
(09:07:39 PM) ke4qqq: dthomasdigital: what's your fas name?
(09:07:44 PM) dthomasdigital: Fedora better be there
(09:07:46 PM) lcafiero: herlo, too, I believe.
(09:07:53 PM) dthomasdigital: Dthomasdigital
(09:07:55 PM) lcafiero: Not to worry, dthomasdigital -- we'll be there.
(09:07:59 PM) inode0: well, get it on our events page!
(09:08:10 PM) inode0: you can do that even without a specific date set
(09:08:10 PM) lcafiero: it's in herlo's region.
(09:08:24 PM) dthomasdigital: Be sure and register so I can get a feel
for how many I need to feed
(09:08:33 PM) dthomasdigital: I will ASAP
(09:10:47 PM) lcafiero: heh.
(09:11:01 PM) lcafiero: some of us count as more than 1 . . . :-)
(09:11:01 PM) inode0: dthomasdigital: also advertise the CFP on the
f-a-l mailing list and planet fedora
(09:11:15 PM) ajamison5579: feed
(09:11:19 PM) ajamison5579: you can send me the food
(09:11:23 PM) ajamison5579: and a plane ticket
(09:11:25 PM) ajamison5579: lol
(09:11:33 PM) ajamison5579: i wish i could make it sounds like fun
(09:11:37 PM) dthomasdigital: I'm really hoping to get Fedora to with
luck help sponsor A nice big banner would rock
(09:12:19 PM) inode0: very possible - sounds like we have some near
enough there is strong interest already
(09:12:42 PM) ***inode0 admits New Mexico is his favorite state as well
(09:12:46 PM) lcafiero: I think we have a banner.
(09:12:53 PM) dthomasdigital: ajamison5579 I'll work on the plan ticket
(09:13:06 PM) ajamison5579: I hope you have a killer first one
(09:14:03 PM) inode0: ok, let me just put in the record I'll ping that
NY guy and arrange whatever he needs for NYLUG and report back the
result
(09:14:03 PM) dthomasdigital: Thanks, working my but off to make sure
it's a good one, have 60 registered so far and it's March
(09:14:32 PM) lcafiero: One more thing -- and I'll put this on the
list (and quaid's not here to confirm -- he's got the event box)
(09:14:55 PM) lcafiero: I think we may need some more shirts and live
CDs for LFNW
(09:15:10 PM) lcafiero: But again, I have to see what's in and what's
not in the event box after CUE
(09:15:30 PM) inode0: I'd like to wrap up the formal part of the
meeting soon so are there any other Open Floor items for tonight?
(09:15:34 PM) ***lcafiero can't believe what swag hogs educators at CUE are
(09:15:37 PM) ke4qqq: !
(09:15:55 PM) ke4qqq: I have one inode0
(09:15:58 PM) inode0: just go ke4qqq
(09:16:19 PM) inode0: not away, ahead your item :)
(09:16:20 PM) ke4qqq: so the beta release call is tomorrow - is there
anything of concern from an Ambassador standpoint that I need to carry
forward?
(09:16:35 PM) ajamison5579: oh good point
(09:16:45 PM) ajamison5579: question rather
(09:17:11 PM) crossbytes: beta release call?
(09:17:51 PM) ke4qqq: so each subproject within fedora has someone get
on a conference call about coordinating [alpha,beta,preview,final]
release
(09:17:57 PM) ajamison5579: f11 alpha
(09:18:07 PM) ke4qqq: this is re the f11 beta
(09:18:08 PM) ajamison5579: goes beta
(09:18:11 PM) crossbytes: I am running f11 rawhide now but cant get a
clean install proiblems with anaconda still..
(09:18:30 PM) inode0: while people think about that is there anything
interesting happening with FAmSCo?
(09:18:36 PM) ke4qqq: crossbytes: please file a bug - and talk to QA.
(09:18:42 PM) ke4qqq: yes I have something to report on that end as well
(09:18:56 PM) ke4qqq: hearing nothing for the beta call then?
(09:19:09 PM) ke4qqq: if you think of something shoot me an email.
(09:19:11 PM) workman161: I'm not really sure what there would be, so no
(09:19:24 PM) ajamison5579: better yet post it to the mailing list
(09:19:34 PM) ke4qqq: +1
(09:19:36 PM) ajamison5579: i would be interested to find out as well
(09:20:00 PM) crossbytes: still after setup an account in bugzilla
(09:20:20 PM) crossbytes: still have to sorry
(09:20:53 PM) ke4qqq: ok - so now for famsco updates
(09:20:55 PM) inode0: other FAmSCo news then?
(09:21:48 PM) ke4qqq: FAmSCo likes our Regions page - and is
essentially going to have each region (APAC, EMEA, LATAM) complete a
regions page and task them with keeping it updated and then
transcluding that data in place of the CountryList.
(09:22:24 PM) inode0: so perhaps Canada should get a map up on ours
(09:22:48 PM) ke4qqq: and thus divest the responsibility to those in
the region of keeping up with those who are
$firstwordthatmustnotbeuttered.
(09:23:02 PM) ke4qqq: might not be a bad idea.
(09:23:42 PM) inode0: do we need a big policy or can we just let
people add themselves and deal with non-responsive ambassadors as they
come to our attention?
(09:24:02 PM) inode0: deal == remove from that page
(09:24:06 PM) ke4qqq: inode0: it's up to us (as NA) to manage how we see fit
(09:24:53 PM) workman161:
(09:24:54 PM) workman161: Image:Artwork famsco bannerN1.png
(09:24:54 PM) workman161: There are no pages that link to this file.
(09:24:56 PM) workman161: erp
(09:25:03 PM) workman161: sorry, middle clicked on my thinkpad
(09:25:13 PM) inode0: I'll add I attended the APAC meeting this month
where we discussed a lot of stuff related to the FAmNA rebirth and
what they might do to get better organized
(09:25:37 PM) ke4qqq: really - hopefully it was of benefit to them.
(09:25:44 PM) ke4qqq: they are even more spread out than we are
(09:25:53 PM) inode0: I think the visit was enjoyed by both sides
(09:27:06 PM) inode0: anything else FAmSCo?
(09:27:33 PM) inode0: someone changed the FAmSCo mission statement :)
(09:28:09 PM) inode0: are we done?
(09:28:36 PM) workman161: I've got nothing else to add
(09:28:48 PM) inode0: everyone feel free to carry on in
fedora-ambassadors when this meeting closes
(09:28:50 PM) inode0: 5
(09:28:54 PM) inode0: 4
(09:28:58 PM) inode0: 3
(09:28:58 PM) lcafiero: wait ... just kidding
(09:29:00 PM) ke4qqq: nothing
(09:29:02 PM) inode0: 2
(09:29:06 PM) inode0: 1
(09:29:11 PM) inode0: EOM