From joseroberto at ieee.org Fri May 1 02:44:24 2009 From: joseroberto at ieee.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Roberto_Colombo_Junior?=) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:44:24 -0300 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=5BAmbassadors=5D_Fedora_M=E9xico?= In-Reply-To: References: <1b4d94a30904300958i27f13549qd130f37789ff3831@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Congratulations! This website is very good. 2009/4/30 Juan M. Rodriguez > > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Renich Bon Ciric < > renich at woralelandia.com> wrote: > >> Hey, guys! >> >> Well, I'm a new Ambassador. I'm glad I finally decided to become one >> and I hope I can do much for the community in my region. >> >> Speaking of which, IMHO, M?xico's community is weak regarding inner >> collaboration. I've reviewed the list and saw many collaborators (not >> as many as I would like) in M?xico. >> >> This is an attempt to bring unity to us. Juan Rodr?guez and Me have >> set up a facebook website called "Fedora M?xico", which is an >> extension of Juan's website: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico/ > > > For the record, it's not "my" website. Its Mexico's. :D > > >> >> >> The sole intention is to bring, the mexican community, closer and to >> be able to collaborate among us to make people more aware of Fedora. >> >> Please, we're open to any kind of criticism/suggestion. Feel free to >> reply and speak your mind! >> >> Thanks again! >> >> -- >> It's hard to be free... but I love to struggle! >> Renich Bon Ciric >> >> http://www.woralelandia.com/ >> http://www.introbella.com/ >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > Welcome to the team! I'm glad another one joined us! > > -- > Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno > Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos > Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Jos? Roberto Colombo J?nior - Eletrical Engineer - Linux User IEEE # 90408028 - Webmaster - Ramo Estudantil IEEE de Ilha Solteira Embaixador Projeto Fedora Brasil Phone: +55 17-97448897 E-mail: joseroberto at ieee.org - Skype: jose.roberto.colombo.junior Msn: jose.roberto.colombo.junior at hotmail.com http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Joseroberto http://www.ieee.org/unesp-ilha +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fedora at opensourcenuts.com Fri May 1 18:31:17 2009 From: fedora at opensourcenuts.com (fedora) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 00:01:17 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FW: How to find out who in my region have requested for fedora media? Message-ID: <200905011831.n41IVXOF029088@mx3.redhat.com> Hi how can I know who in my region have requested for fedora media? I also want to know that if I receive a mail regarding media, what procedure is to be opted to update the information on fedora website. Thanks sunil datta -----Original Message----- From: fedora [mailto:fedora at opensourcenuts.com] Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 10:10 AM To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com; fedora-india-request at redhat.com Subject: How to find out who in my region have requested for fedora media? Importance: High Hi I tried to find out who in my region have requested for fedora media but failed. So, can anyone let me know, how can I find who in my region have requested for fedora media? Thanks sunil datta From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri May 1 18:39:38 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 00:09:38 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] FW: How to find out who in my region have requested for fedora media? In-Reply-To: <200905011831.n41IVXOF029088@mx3.redhat.com> References: <200905011831.n41IVXOF029088@mx3.redhat.com> Message-ID: On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:01 AM, fedora wrote: > Hi > > how can I know who in my region have requested for fedora media? I also want to know that if I receive a mail regarding media, what procedure is to be opted to update the information on fedora website. You can login here https://fedorahosted.org/freemedia/ Then you can search your region. If you receive personal requests, you should update this page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts/F10 Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From willin64 at gmail.com Sat May 2 00:43:19 2009 From: willin64 at gmail.com (willin_32) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 20:43:19 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora-ambassadors-list Digest, Vol 47, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: <20090501160032.23B0461A9F1@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20090501160032.23B0461A9F1@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <3efef5260905011743x73d81c37rf9f4fd5fca046da@mail.gmail.com> good job i was think the same, buy sticker, t-shirt, a box of cd (portacd) with the logo of fedora. and get some money to make more free media if it doesnt problem. Nushio, we need to change our site WP to Drupal, if it doesnt matter. best regards William Proyecto FEDORA Paraguay mail: willynx at proyectofedora.org tel: +59598235422 +59521770130 Asunci?n - Paraguay 2009/5/1, fedora-ambassadors-list-request at redhat.com : > Send Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-ambassadors-list-request at redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-ambassadors-list-owner at redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-ambassadors-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Fedora M?xico (Renich Bon Ciric) > 2. Re: Fedora M?xico (Juan M. Rodriguez) > 3. Re: Fedora M?xico (Jos? Roberto Colombo Junior) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:58:12 -0500 > From: Renich Bon Ciric > Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora M?xico > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > <1b4d94a30904300958i27f13549qd130f37789ff3831 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hey, guys! > > Well, I'm a new Ambassador. I'm glad I finally decided to become one > and I hope I can do much for the community in my region. > > Speaking of which, IMHO, M??xico's community is weak regarding inner > collaboration. I've reviewed the list and saw many collaborators (not > as many as I would like) in M??xico. > > This is an attempt to bring unity to us. Juan Rodr??guez and Me have > set up a facebook website called "Fedora M??xico", which is an > extension of Juan's website: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico/ > > The sole intention is to bring, the mexican community, closer and to > be able to collaborate among us to make people more aware of Fedora. > > Please, we're open to any kind of criticism/suggestion. Feel free to > reply and speak your mind! > > Thanks again! > > -- > It's hard to be free... but I love to struggle! > Renich Bon Ciric > > http://www.woralelandia.com/ > http://www.introbella.com/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:25:06 -0500 > From: "Juan M. Rodriguez" > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora M?xico > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Renich Bon Ciric > wrote: > >> Hey, guys! >> >> Well, I'm a new Ambassador. I'm glad I finally decided to become one >> and I hope I can do much for the community in my region. >> >> Speaking of which, IMHO, M?xico's community is weak regarding inner >> collaboration. I've reviewed the list and saw many collaborators (not >> as many as I would like) in M?xico. >> >> This is an attempt to bring unity to us. Juan Rodr?guez and Me have >> set up a facebook website called "Fedora M?xico", which is an >> extension of Juan's website: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico/ > > > For the record, it's not "my" website. Its Mexico's. :D > > >> >> >> The sole intention is to bring, the mexican community, closer and to >> be able to collaborate among us to make people more aware of Fedora. >> >> Please, we're open to any kind of criticism/suggestion. Feel free to >> reply and speak your mind! >> >> Thanks again! >> >> -- >> It's hard to be free... but I love to struggle! >> Renich Bon Ciric >> >> http://www.woralelandia.com/ >> http://www.introbella.com/ >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > Welcome to the team! I'm glad another one joined us! > > -- > Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno > Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos > Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/20090430/ba69ef52/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:44:24 -0300 > From: Jos? Roberto Colombo Junior > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora M?xico > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Congratulations! This website is very good. > > 2009/4/30 Juan M. Rodriguez > >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Renich Bon Ciric < >> renich at woralelandia.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey, guys! >>> >>> Well, I'm a new Ambassador. I'm glad I finally decided to become one >>> and I hope I can do much for the community in my region. >>> >>> Speaking of which, IMHO, M?xico's community is weak regarding inner >>> collaboration. I've reviewed the list and saw many collaborators (not >>> as many as I would like) in M?xico. >>> >>> This is an attempt to bring unity to us. Juan Rodr?guez and Me have >>> set up a facebook website called "Fedora M?xico", which is an >>> extension of Juan's website: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico/ >> >> >> For the record, it's not "my" website. Its Mexico's. :D >> >> >>> >>> >>> The sole intention is to bring, the mexican community, closer and to >>> be able to collaborate among us to make people more aware of Fedora. >>> >>> Please, we're open to any kind of criticism/suggestion. Feel free to >>> reply and speak your mind! >>> >>> Thanks again! >>> >>> -- >>> It's hard to be free... but I love to struggle! >>> Renich Bon Ciric >>> >>> http://www.woralelandia.com/ >>> http://www.introbella.com/ >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >> >> Welcome to the team! I'm glad another one joined us! >> >> -- >> Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno >> Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos >> Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico >> >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > Jos? Roberto Colombo J?nior - Eletrical Engineer - Linux User > IEEE # 90408028 - Webmaster - Ramo Estudantil IEEE de Ilha Solteira > Embaixador Projeto Fedora Brasil > Phone: +55 17-97448897 > E-mail: joseroberto at ieee.org - Skype: jose.roberto.colombo.junior > Msn: jose.roberto.colombo.junior at hotmail.com > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Joseroberto > http://www.ieee.org/unesp-ilha > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/20090430/dc757667/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > End of Fedora-ambassadors-list Digest, Vol 47, Issue 9 > ****************************************************** > -- Saludos Willian Aquino Carpediem S.A Tel:; +595 21 770 130 / 1 int: 21 Mobile: +595981335422 www.carpediem.com.py From linux.rafa at gmail.com Sat May 2 05:20:29 2009 From: linux.rafa at gmail.com (Rafael Gomes) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 02:20:29 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Event Report] FLISoL Caracas 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <27a6293b0904300604l6948208fle75360cebdcb2317@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7256ccd50905012220v3b0a5189u4289803a0ea29d14@mail.gmail.com> Great event Mar?a! Congratulations! Rafael Gomes Consultor em TI Embaixador Fedora LPIC-1 (71) 8146-5772 Fedora Talk : 5103520 III Encontro Nordestino de Software Livre e IV Festival de Software Livre da Bahia http://www.ensl.org.br On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Marley Bacelar wrote: > Great event Mar?a -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Sat May 2 17:32:10 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 19:32:10 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] FAD @ LFNW Message-ID: Hi all, Aside from the blog posts that have already been made about LFNW, I'm curious to know more about the Fedora Activity Day that we held there. How did it go? What sorts of things were achieved? What sort of turnout was there, what should we do differently in the future, etc.? Thanks, Max From mspevack at redhat.com Sat May 2 17:39:33 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 19:39:33 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAD @ LFNW In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 2 May 2009, Max Spevack wrote: > Aside from the blog posts that have already been made about LFNW, I'm > curious to know more about the Fedora Activity Day that we held there. > How did it go? What sorts of things were achieved? What sort of > turnout was there, what should we do differently in the future, etc.? I realize that there's also some summary information on the wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_LFNW_2009 and I'm grateful for it. I guess I'm just curious to know if there's any other feedback, good or bad, and to get some more flavor for what that part of the event was like. --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Sat May 2 17:43:55 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 19:43:55 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Activity Day in Malaysia Message-ID: Hi all, We're trying to put together a Fedora Activity Day in Malaysia at the end of May, to coincide with another event that is already on our calendar. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Malaysia_May_2009 If you are interested in attending, or if you have ideas for what sorts of projects we could work on during the FAD, please edit the wiki page above. We're happy to help out with some travel subsidies to the event from the CommArch budget, in the interest of organizing a face-to-face meeting of various Ambassadors in the region. Hopefully this will come together, but that is dependent on people & ideas! Thanks for your attention, Max From shakthimaan at gmail.com Sat May 2 18:37:18 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 00:07:18 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Event Report] NBKR Institute, Vidyanagar, Andhra Pradesh, India Message-ID: Hi, I addressed the following topics for a Free Software workshop at NBKR Institute of Science and Technology, Vidyanagar, Nellore district, Andhra Pradesh, India on Saturday, May 2, 2009: * Career opportunities with Free Software * i-want-2-do-project. tell-me-wat-2-fedora. * Mailing list guidelines * Communication guidelines * Fedora sub-projects * Embedded Systems concepts I would like to thank Rajesh Sola, Lecturer, for organizing the workshop, and for coordinating with me for the past couple of months for this workshop. The CS labs have Fedora installed. I have given them Fedora 10 DVDs and stickers (thanks to Rahul Sundaram) which they can distribute to other engineering departments. Pointers to fedora mailing lists, IRCs have been given to the students. Some photos taken during this trip and at the venue are available at: http://www.shakthimaan.com/Mambo/gallery/album55 SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From herlo1 at gmail.com Sat May 2 18:56:29 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 12:56:29 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAD @ LFNW In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Sat, 2 May 2009, Max Spevack wrote: > >> Aside from the blog posts that have already been made about LFNW, I'm >> curious to know more about the Fedora Activity Day that we held there. How >> did it go? What sorts of things were achieved? ?What sort of turnout was >> there, what should we do differently in the future, etc.? > > I realize that there's also some summary information on the wiki page: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_at_LFNW_2009 > > and I'm grateful for it. ?I guess I'm just curious to know if there's any > other feedback, good or bad, and to get some more flavor for what that part > of the event was like. > > --Max > I probably should have blogged more about the FAD. I think it went pretty swell. Larry is quite the Advocate and presenter, probably comes from dealing with classrooms full of students on a regular basis. As far as the success of this FAD, I would say that it didn't match up to what I wanted to do. However, I feel there were a lot of people in the room who wanted to learn more about Fedora. I did feel like we were being utilized more to ask questions than actually get a task done. More to this point, I think the fact that we had such a big Fedora presence this year was an exciting thing for folks in the Northwest. My opinion is that if we come back next year, we'll get a similar response and a few of the folks who attended our FAD this year will help us to organize and get goals done. I will say that there needs to be a couple things at every FAD. Even though we've only done 2, I can see similarities between SCALE and LFNW. First is that we need a representative (or two) to sit at the entrance and answer questions. Something like 'Ask a Fedoran' at a small table right near the door. This is much like triage. If people come to work on an activity that we've advertised, they'll get them inside and working with someone who's in charge of that particular activity. This is the key and part of what keeps us focused. Secondly, I think we need to have a design of what we're there to accomplish. At SCaLE, we had a much better idea of what was to be accomplished. We went to task on it and were able to complete a few things. This was good and with the triage person, we really could've gotten more done. Thus a learning experience. At LFNW, it felt more like we were scattered, didn't really have any idea of what we were going to work on until we showed up and because of that, we didn't really accomplish much at all other than helping folks with their fedora problems. In both cases (SCaLE and LFNW) I have found that we were well received and that people were excited to see our presence. We've made a great impact on these communities. However, with the two improvements I've mentioned, I feel we could really help these communities *and* get a few things done. I don't think there is a way to avoid talking with the public at a FAD, we should be welcoming them. The key here is management of people and getting them where they want to be quickly and efficiently. Thus, I am suggesting that any FAD held alongside a larger event *must* have defined people and goals. I hope this feedback helps overall. Karsten and I have talked at length about much of this and we've continually been working on the 'How to organize a FAD'[1] page on the wiki. I think that's the best place to continue to focus our efforts and improve the FAD experience. Cheers, Clint 1 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_organize_a_FAD From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Sat May 2 19:09:11 2009 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 12:09:11 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAD @ LFNW In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7a0d56080905021209p5fcdd5fdpf719ba2d5fc06a51@mail.gmail.com> Clint sums it up very eloquently -- I can't add anything to that. On the "triage" aspect, I could have done better on that -- that was my role -- but I was juggling a couple of things at once and couldn't give any of the things I was doing the attention they individually deserved. I'm trying to get to a point where I can write a final blog item about LFNW -- a lot of this thing called "life" is getting in the way -- where I'll address several issues. I'll be contributing to the FAD how-to wiki page. Larry Cafiero On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Clint Savage wrote: > > I probably should have blogged more about the FAD. I think it went > pretty swell. Larry is quite the Advocate and presenter, probably > comes from dealing with classrooms full of students on a regular > basis. > > As far as the success of this FAD, I would say that it didn't match up > to what I wanted to do. However, I feel there were a lot of people in > the room who wanted to learn more about Fedora. I did feel like we > were being utilized more to ask questions than actually get a task > done. > > More to this point, I think the fact that we had such a big Fedora > presence this year was an exciting thing for folks in the Northwest. > My opinion is that if we come back next year, we'll get a similar > response and a few of the folks who attended our FAD this year will > help us to organize and get goals done. I will say that there needs to > be a couple things at every FAD. Even though we've only done 2, I > can see similarities between SCALE and LFNW. > > First is that we need a representative (or two) to sit at the entrance > and answer questions. Something like 'Ask a Fedoran' at a small table > right near the door. This is much like triage. If people come to > work on an activity that we've advertised, they'll get them inside and > working with someone who's in charge of that particular activity. > This is the key and part of what keeps us focused. > > Secondly, I think we need to have a design of what we're there to > accomplish. At SCaLE, we had a much better idea of what was to be > accomplished. We went to task on it and were able to complete a few > things. This was good and with the triage person, we really could've > gotten more done. Thus a learning experience. At LFNW, it felt more > like we were scattered, didn't really have any idea of what we were > going to work on until we showed up and because of that, we didn't > really accomplish much at all other than helping folks with their > fedora problems. > > In both cases (SCaLE and LFNW) I have found that we were well received > and that people were excited to see our presence. We've made a great > impact on these communities. However, with the two improvements I've > mentioned, I feel we could really help these communities *and* get a > few things done. I don't think there is a way to avoid talking with > the public at a FAD, we should be welcoming them. The key here is > management of people and getting them where they want to be quickly > and efficiently. Thus, I am suggesting that any FAD held alongside a > larger event *must* have defined people and goals. > > I hope this feedback helps overall. Karsten and I have talked at > length about much of this and we've continually been working on the > 'How to organize a FAD'[1] page on the wiki. I think that's the best > place to continue to focus our efforts and improve the FAD experience. > > Cheers, > > Clint > > 1 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_organize_a_FAD > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rishikesh at fedoraproject.org Sun May 3 03:02:44 2009 From: rishikesh at fedoraproject.org (Rishikesh Sharma) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 08:32:44 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 11 Preview Sound Problem Message-ID: <7cb778c60905022002t3d801248m3391a5da944063f3@mail.gmail.com> Hello Everyone, I have downloaded and tested Fedora 11 preview on my LG RD400 Laptop. With Fedora 9 and 10, I don't have any issue with sound. But with Fedora 11 preview, I am experiencing problem with the sound. The sound quality and the sound volume level is extremely poor. I hope, Fedora 11 preview uses PulseAudio instead ALSA. How can i change my default sound device from PulseAudio to ALSA. Please help me to fix the sound issue on Fedora 11 Preview. Regards, Rishikesh Sharma Fedora Ambassador -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alexis.tejeda at gmail.com Sun May 3 03:09:12 2009 From: alexis.tejeda at gmail.com (Alexis Tejeda) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 23:09:12 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 11 Preview Sound Problem In-Reply-To: <7cb778c60905022002t3d801248m3391a5da944063f3@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60905022002t3d801248m3391a5da944063f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49FD0AD8.30409@gmail.com> Preview Release, post u'r problem in bugzilla. Systems->Preferences->Hardware->Sound, but u have already installed ALSA, and... go to support forums or whateva!, this is Ambassador Mail List, not support. Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I have downloaded and tested Fedora 11 preview on my LG RD400 Laptop. > With Fedora 9 and 10, I don't have any issue with sound. But with > Fedora 11 preview, I am experiencing problem with the sound. The sound > quality and the sound volume level is extremely poor. I hope, Fedora > 11 preview uses PulseAudio instead ALSA. How can i change my default > sound device from PulseAudio to ALSA. Please help me to fix the sound > issue on Fedora 11 Preview. > > > > Regards, > Rishikesh Sharma > Fedora Ambassador > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- --- Key ID: 51B2 DD97 3D48 28AA DDA3 B185 B742 B15B F0F8 C764 From oglesbyzm at gmail.com Sun May 3 06:21:37 2009 From: oglesbyzm at gmail.com (Zach Oglesby) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 08:21:37 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 11 Preview Sound Problem In-Reply-To: <7cb778c60905022002t3d801248m3391a5da944063f3@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60905022002t3d801248m3391a5da944063f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Rishikesh Sharma < rishikesh at fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I have downloaded and tested Fedora 11 preview on my LG RD400 Laptop. With > Fedora 9 and 10, I don't have any issue with sound. But with Fedora 11 > preview, I am experiencing problem with the sound. The sound quality and the > sound volume level is extremely poor. I hope, Fedora 11 preview uses > PulseAudio instead ALSA. How can i change my default sound device from > PulseAudio to ALSA. Please help me to fix the sound issue on Fedora 11 > Preview. There are some tips on the release notes that may help you boost your volume, if not I am sorry. http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f11preview/en-US/ar01s04s05.html Zach Oglesby -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aveeksn at gmail.com Sun May 3 07:17:04 2009 From: aveeksn at gmail.com (Aveek Sen) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 12:47:04 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Having a couple of experts to give talks at our install fest Message-ID: Hi!, Would it be possible to have a couple of experts for our install fest at NIT Agartala. It will be held for 2 days, sometime between 15-20 July. Should I register it as a Fedora event? May I have some big names for talks via video-conference? It will be a big boost for our mega fest, incorporating many institutions. Thanks, Aveek, NIT Agartala. From leam at reuel.net Sun May 3 12:43:17 2009 From: leam at reuel.net (Leam Hall) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 08:43:17 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Classroom -- Ambassador Tips & Training In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49FD9165.1010608@reuel.net> I'll miss the entire thing, doing an interstate move this weekend. However, looking to participate down the road. I think this is an awesome idea. The Kernel stuff this time looked very interesting! Leam Max Spevack wrote: > I'll be doing my "Fedora Ambassador Tips & Training" class this weekend > in the Fedora Classroom that is in the India/Asia/Australia timezones. > > It's scheduled for Sunday May 3 at 0600 UTC. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom#The_Current_Timeline > > --Max > From karlie_robinson at webpath.net Sun May 3 14:07:47 2009 From: karlie_robinson at webpath.net (Karlie Robinson) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 10:07:47 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Free discs to hand out Message-ID: <49FDA533.2080809@webpath.net> I wanted everyone to know that http://Groups.On-Disk.com has announced it's first monthly disc give away. The criteria is to share best practices - meaning what works well at FOSS and LUG meetings, at events and booths. Feel free to ask questions, or post something that worked. The best will be chosen at the end of the month. Yes, International groups are eligible to participate and you can get discs in your local language if you like. The choice will be yours. For more info about Groups.On-Disk.com see http://groups.on-disk.com/index.php?itemid=16 For more info about the give away, visit http://groups.on-disk.com/index.php?itemid=48 ~Karlie From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Sun May 3 14:44:19 2009 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 16:44:19 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1830UTC #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20090503164419.2ada7145@mrtomlinux.org> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2009-05-03 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (03 mai.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'h?sitez pas ? le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent int?ressants. Merci de r?pondre ? ce message en cas d'indisponibilit?. Thomas Canniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From joseroberto at ieee.org Sun May 3 18:40:26 2009 From: joseroberto at ieee.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Roberto_Colombo_Junior?=) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 15:40:26 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Having a couple of experts to give talks at our install fest In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Between 15-20 july I can help you! 2009/5/3 Aveek Sen > Hi!, > Would it be possible to have a couple of experts for our install fest > at NIT Agartala. It will be held for 2 days, sometime between 15-20 > July. Should I register it as a Fedora event? 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I am working with Red Hat marketing to help with Fedora 11 launch in Singapore. I am looking at the FAs in Singapore to be an integral part of this effort and would welcome your participation in the briefing and subsequent planning. Please reply directly to Jasmine please. See you all on Thursday. Harish =========================================================================== Fedora 11 Launching in Singapore Fedora 11, a Linux-based operating system, is making its debut in Singapore on 27 May and we would like to conduct these introduction presentations at your schools. Some of the cool features include: * 20 Second Startup - Reach the login screen in 20 seconds from bootup. * Firefox 3.1 - Customize your web browser more effectively, better fitting your individual needs. * Thunderbird 3 - Enjoy more features with this open source cross-platform email and usenet client-based client. * Windows Cross-compiler - Build and test full-featured Windows programs, from the comfort of the Fedora system, without needing to use Windows. Red Hat is calling for student leaders, interested to be part of this launch project, to meet with us. We want to share our ideas and plans on this highly anticipated launch with you. Date: 7 May 2009 (Thursday) Time: 7:00pm Venue: Red Hat Office (8 Shenton Way #10-00 - former Temasek Tower) If you have any questions, please contact Jasmine Ee, Senior Corp Comms Manager, Red Hat at 6490 4123 or 9734 1307. Please RSVP Jasmine at jasmine.ee at redhat.com soon as seats are limited! What is the Fedora Project? The Fedora Project is a global partnership of free software community members. The Fedora Project is sponsored by Red Hat, which invests in our infrastructure and resources to encourage collaboration and incubate innovative new technologies. Some of these technologies may later be integrated into Red Hat products. They are developed in Fedora and produced under a free and open source license from inception, so other free software communities and projects are free to study, adopt, and modify them. Who is Red Hat? Red Hat, the world's leading open source solutions provider, is headquartered in Raleigh, North Carolina, USA with over 65 offices spanning the globe. CIOs ranked Red Hat as one of the top vendors delivering value in Enterprise Software for five consecutive years in the CIO Insight Magazine Vendor Value survey. Red Hat provides high-quality, affordable technology with its operating system platform, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, together with applications, management and Services Oriented Architecture (SOA) solutions, including JBoss Enterprise Middleware. Red Hat also offers support, training and consulting services to its customers worldwide. Learn more: http://www.redhat.com. -- Harish Pillay 9v1hp hpillay at redhat.com +65.9636.9253 gpg id: 746809E3 gpg fingerprint: F7F5 5CCD 25B9 FC25 303E 3DA2 0F80 27DB 7468 09E3 From dezone24 at gmail.com Mon May 4 01:44:55 2009 From: dezone24 at gmail.com (Diego Escobar) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 20:44:55 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome In-Reply-To: <200905032311.09067.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200905032311.09067.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Hi Joerg: A few days ago, I recommended to a friend join Fedora as ambassador. He started the process, but I understand he had problems Could you tell me what is going on with his process? I will help to complete the process to Andr?s: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:acardenas Thanks 2009/5/3 JoergSimon > Dear Ambassadors, > > let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rcovarru from Chile > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Danyikki from Paraguay > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Heracias from Brazil > > Regards Joerg > p.s. 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URL: From tatica at fedoraproject.org Mon May 4 13:14:52 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 08:44:52 +1930 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Event Report] FLISoL Caracas 2009 In-Reply-To: <7256ccd50905012220v3b0a5189u4289803a0ea29d14@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0904300604l6948208fle75360cebdcb2317@mail.gmail.com> <7256ccd50905012220v3b0a5189u4289803a0ea29d14@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <27a6293b0905040614x3ce197dfka6163eb5c0d2d728@mail.gmail.com> Hello. This is a video of the 1st National Tournament of UrbanTerror (freeware game based on quake3 engine) also on the flisol Caracas 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jdhtQKnpzE 2009/5/3 Rafael Gomes : > Great event Mar?a! Congratulations! > > Rafael Gomes > Consultor em TI > Embaixador Fedora > LPIC-1 > (71) 8146-5772 > Fedora Talk : 5103520 > > III Encontro Nordestino de Software Livre e IV Festival de Software Livre da > Bahia > http://www.ensl.org.br > > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Marley Bacelar > wrote: >> >> Great event Mar?a > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" From mspevack at redhat.com Mon May 4 16:40:05 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:40:05 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA meeting -- May 06 @ 2000 UTC Message-ID: Our monthly EMEA Ambassadors meeting will be this coming Wednesday, May 6, at 2000 UTC (2200 CEST). I threw a basic agenda up on the wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-05-06 1. Review upcoming events. 2. Discuss needs that folks have (resources, budget, etc) 3. Reminders of any reimbursements that are still due. 4. Any questions about FUDCon Berlin. 5. Open floor. Also, I'd like to discuss whether or not a greater frequency of meetings in this region is something people would like, or if Ambassadors feel like they have the right balance of meetings, access to resources, etc. that they need right now. --Max From stickster at gmail.com Mon May 4 16:52:53 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 12:52:53 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAD @ LFNW In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090504165253.GE3437@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 12:56:29PM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: > First is that we need a representative (or two) to sit at the entrance > and answer questions. Something like 'Ask a Fedoran' at a small table > right near the door. This is much like triage. If people come to > work on an activity that we've advertised, they'll get them inside and > working with someone who's in charge of that particular activity. > This is the key and part of what keeps us focused. This is a very astute observation. I know that a FAD is being organized for the SELF conference[1]. Hopefully the folks setting that event up will look at the experience of the LFNW FAD attendees and use it to inform their planning. > Secondly, I think we need to have a design of what we're there to > accomplish. At SCaLE, we had a much better idea of what was to be > accomplished. We went to task on it and were able to complete a few > things. This was good and with the triage person, we really could've > gotten more done. Thus a learning experience. At LFNW, it felt more > like we were scattered, didn't really have any idea of what we were > going to work on until we showed up and because of that, we didn't > really accomplish much at all other than helping folks with their > fedora problems. Point also well taken. This is something that Max and I agree with whole-heartedly in general. Whether you call it the "5P principle" or come at it from the standpoint of budget allotment, it still makes sense that having a plan going into the event is always going to contribute to success. > In both cases (SCaLE and LFNW) I have found that we were well received > and that people were excited to see our presence. We've made a great > impact on these communities. However, with the two improvements I've > mentioned, I feel we could really help these communities *and* get a > few things done. I don't think there is a way to avoid talking with > the public at a FAD, we should be welcoming them. The key here is > management of people and getting them where they want to be quickly > and efficiently. Thus, I am suggesting that any FAD held alongside a > larger event *must* have defined people and goals. > > I hope this feedback helps overall. Karsten and I have talked at > length about much of this and we've continually been working on the > 'How to organize a FAD'[1] page on the wiki. I think that's the best > place to continue to focus our efforts and improve the FAD experience. Excellent comments Clint -- maybe you could work another blog post out of the two points you just made more clearly than I could have! ;-) -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From stickster at gmail.com Mon May 4 17:06:59 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:06:59 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: FAD @ LFNW In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080905021209p5fcdd5fdpf719ba2d5fc06a51@mail.gmail.com> References: <7a0d56080905021209p5fcdd5fdpf719ba2d5fc06a51@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090504170659.GF3437@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 12:09:11PM -0700, Larry Cafiero wrote: > Clint sums it up very eloquently -- I can't add anything to that. On the > "triage" aspect, I could have done better on that -- that was my role -- but I > was juggling a couple of things at once and couldn't give any of the things I > was doing the attention they individually deserved. > > I'm trying to get to a point where I can write a final blog item about LFNW -- > a lot of this thing called "life" is getting in the way -- where I'll address > several issues. > > I'll be contributing to the FAD how-to wiki page. Fedora is never boring because it's a constant growth and improvement process -- not just for each of us, but for the teams and the project as a whole. The perfect event or process is probably impossible but we keep trying anyway. Thanks for being part of our team and bringing so many wonderful pieces together for LFNW, Larry. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From tatica at fedoraproject.org Mon May 4 18:18:17 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 13:48:17 +1930 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Event Report] FLISoL Caracas 2009 In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0905040614x3ce197dfka6163eb5c0d2d728@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0904300604l6948208fle75360cebdcb2317@mail.gmail.com> <7256ccd50905012220v3b0a5189u4289803a0ea29d14@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0905040614x3ce197dfka6163eb5c0d2d728@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <27a6293b0905041118j2e30d7d3u8455f450583c7364@mail.gmail.com> More photos: (be carefull... big images :) ) http://galeria.0x29.com.ve/Flisol_CCS_2009/6.html http://galeria.0x29.com.ve/Flisol_CCS_2009/18.html http://galeria.0x29.com.ve/Flisol_CCS_2009/20.html http://galeria.0x29.com.ve/Flisol_CCS_2009/24.html http://galeria.0x29.com.ve/Flisol_CCS_2009/52.html El d?a 5 de mayo de 2009 8:44, Mar?a Leandro escribi?: > Hello. > > This is a video of the 1st National Tournament of UrbanTerror > (freeware game based on quake3 engine) also on the flisol Caracas 2009 > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jdhtQKnpzE > > > > 2009/5/3 Rafael Gomes : >> Great event Mar?a! Congratulations! >> >> Rafael Gomes >> Consultor em TI >> Embaixador Fedora >> LPIC-1 >> (71) 8146-5772 >> Fedora Talk : 5103520 >> >> III Encontro Nordestino de Software Livre e IV Festival de Software Livre da >> Bahia >> http://www.ensl.org.br >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Marley Bacelar >> wrote: >>> >>> Great event Mar?a >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.iseit.net > http://www.latinux.org > http://www.latinux.com > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" From hacataka at gmail.com Mon May 4 19:12:14 2009 From: hacataka at gmail.com (Hacataka Comodo) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:12:14 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Event Report] FLISoL Caracas 2009 In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0905041118j2e30d7d3u8455f450583c7364@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0904300604l6948208fle75360cebdcb2317@mail.gmail.com> <7256ccd50905012220v3b0a5189u4289803a0ea29d14@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0905040614x3ce197dfka6163eb5c0d2d728@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0905041118j2e30d7d3u8455f450583c7364@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I congratulate myself that I hope for the next event in peru FLISOL we present fedora with plenty of marketing and more users El d?a 4 de mayo de 2009 13:18, Mar?a Leandro escribi?: > More photos: (be carefull... big images :) ) > > http://galeria.0x29.com.ve/Flisol_CCS_2009/6.html > > http://galeria.0x29.com.ve/Flisol_CCS_2009/18.html > > http://galeria.0x29.com.ve/Flisol_CCS_2009/20.html > > http://galeria.0x29.com.ve/Flisol_CCS_2009/24.html > > http://galeria.0x29.com.ve/Flisol_CCS_2009/52.html > > > > El d?a 5 de mayo de 2009 8:44, Mar?a Leandro > escribi?: >> Hello. >> >> This is a video of the 1st National Tournament of UrbanTerror >> (freeware game based on quake3 engine) also on the flisol Caracas 2009 >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jdhtQKnpzE >> >> >> >> 2009/5/3 Rafael Gomes : >>> Great event Mar?a! Congratulations! >>> >>> Rafael Gomes >>> Consultor em TI >>> Embaixador Fedora >>> LPIC-1 >>> (71) 8146-5772 >>> Fedora Talk : 5103520 >>> >>> III Encontro Nordestino de Software Livre e IV Festival de Software Livre da >>> Bahia >>> http://www.ensl.org.br >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Marley Bacelar >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Great event Mar?a >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> tatica >> Maria Gracia Leandro >> http://www.tatica.org >> http://www.iseit.net >> http://www.latinux.org >> http://www.latinux.com >> http://www.fedora-ve.org >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro >> LinuxUser= 440285 >> GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 >> "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" >> > > > > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.iseit.net > http://www.latinux.org > http://www.latinux.com > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- HACATAKA http://bitacorahelpdesk.blogspot.com/ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hacataka From matiasmaceira at gmail.com Tue May 5 02:31:58 2009 From: matiasmaceira at gmail.com (Matias Maceira) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 23:31:58 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Event Report] FLISoL Caracas 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <27a6293b0904300604l6948208fle75360cebdcb2317@mail.gmail.com> <7256ccd50905012220v3b0a5189u4289803a0ea29d14@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0905040614x3ce197dfka6163eb5c0d2d728@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0905041118j2e30d7d3u8455f450583c7364@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <933cb3780905041931m21be6bedpdf7f9f7448727d30@mail.gmail.com> Felicitaciones tatica... Un gran abrazo Matias Maceira 2009/5/4 Hacataka Comodo : > I congratulate myself that I hope for the next event in peru FLISOL we > present fedora with plenty of marketing and more users > > > El d?a 4 de mayo de 2009 13:18, Mar?a Leandro > escribi?: >> More photos: (be carefull... big images :) ) >> >> http://galeria.0x29.com.ve/Flisol_CCS_2009/6.html >> >> http://galeria.0x29.com.ve/Flisol_CCS_2009/18.html >> >> http://galeria.0x29.com.ve/Flisol_CCS_2009/20.html >> >> http://galeria.0x29.com.ve/Flisol_CCS_2009/24.html >> >> http://galeria.0x29.com.ve/Flisol_CCS_2009/52.html >> >> >> >> El d?a 5 de mayo de 2009 8:44, Mar?a Leandro >> escribi?: >>> Hello. >>> >>> This is a video of the 1st National Tournament of UrbanTerror >>> (freeware game based on quake3 engine) also on the flisol Caracas 2009 >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jdhtQKnpzE >>> >>> >>> >>> 2009/5/3 Rafael Gomes : >>>> Great event Mar?a! Congratulations! >>>> >>>> Rafael Gomes >>>> Consultor em TI >>>> Embaixador Fedora >>>> LPIC-1 >>>> (71) 8146-5772 >>>> Fedora Talk : 5103520 >>>> >>>> III Encontro Nordestino de Software Livre e IV Festival de Software Livre da >>>> Bahia >>>> http://www.ensl.org.br >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Marley Bacelar >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Great event Mar?a >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> tatica >>> Maria Gracia Leandro >>> http://www.tatica.org >>> http://www.iseit.net >>> http://www.latinux.org >>> http://www.latinux.com >>> http://www.fedora-ve.org >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro >>> LinuxUser= 440285 >>> GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 >>> "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> tatica >> Maria Gracia Leandro >> http://www.tatica.org >> http://www.iseit.net >> http://www.latinux.org >> http://www.latinux.com >> http://www.fedora-ve.org >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro >> LinuxUser= 440285 >> GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 >> "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > > -- > HACATAKA > http://bitacorahelpdesk.blogspot.com/ > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hacataka > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From inode0 at gmail.com Tue May 5 03:58:44 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:58:44 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Next FAmNA Meeting this Thursday 2009-05-07 Message-ID: Please try to attend and also add any agenda items you have here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-05-07 Thanks, John From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Tue May 5 07:33:34 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 03:33:34 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need some help on "[Fedora-freemedia-list] What Now James?" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) Everyone, came across a thread on the Fedora-freemedia-list which may need some TLC help. :) ======================================================= "[Fedora-freemedia-list] What Now James?" - Currently starts here - https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/fedora-freemedia-list/2009-May/msg00146.html ... Currently ends here - https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/fedora-freemedia-list/2009-May/msg00298.html ======================================================= Please have a great day! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey = Fedora Project's Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey = -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The workshop was, A FOSS talk session and Fedora install fest. The event was scheduled for Sunday 26th April at 10:00 o'clock and I was there at 9:30 to be of some help. The clock was ticking, it was already time and I dint see any participants coming, then something struck me, it's a sunday and I began to worry what if no one turns up. But soon my mind was at peace when I saw people turning up (late but alright ) and the seminar hall was filled to capacity i.e. around 80. So we just brazed through the opening of the event and the stuff which doesn't matter a lot , we soon started with our talks session for the day. Just as the event was stating I saw Udit coming up with two/three cartons full of stuff and was later told that they contained free goodies to be distributed during the event, graciously provided by Mozilla and Sun. So the now the talks. (1). Introduction to FOSS by Mr.Varad Gupta (He's the first RHCSS in India, an active contributor to the community and also runs a linux training academy in Delhi called Fostering Linux). We couldn't have found a better speaker than him to talk about free and open source software and he drove down all the way from Delhi that morning just for the event, we were like wow!!. The talk was really good for newbies and for us well which made us aware some facts and figures about open source movement that we dint know of. He talked about the basic philosophy behind the freedom movement (FOSS) which is what I like to refer it with. There were very good examples of the freedom ideology been adapted outside the software world, companies like GoldCorp (a mining company) which adapted to the open source model and became a leader from becoming a bankrupt, there were many examples like that which made the audience very keen. The session was interactive as we gave away free goodies to the person who answered questions asked by the speaker and by that time Varad also added some 50 odd copies of the april isue of LFY which he brought with himself to our already large the collection but lacking the grandness. The talk was really an enlightening experience for everyone.So as the talk got over Varad had to leave for delhi so we got little time to chat with him regarding lugj's future plans but he was patient enough to talk for a while and would really like to carry on his association with lugj. He gave some good suggestions regarding the FAD we want to conduct and will try if he could bring some Red Hat guys too. Well then he left, making us proud of what we have and are doing. (2). Firefox and its addons by Mr.Udit Sharma (lugj member, mozilla campus rep and fedora ambassador and also college OSUM leader, He's too much rolled into one, right :) ). Udit Sharma talked about firefox (wearing a thunderbird Tee)and some of its great addons like youno, chatzilla, googlepidea, scrapbook, firebug etc and people were keen to know about what firefox is, though some of them have been using it but dint exactly know how powerful it is. (3). Firefox-extended. Well this wasnt really a scheduled talk but one of our lug members Jay Pandya(sarai fellow, wordmint developer and a 3rd year computer science student too) felt that firefox needs more time then what has been given (dont worry that was not an attempt to fork lug, we are good and very well running you envy people) so he grabbed the Microphone and starting talking about firfox (wearing a firefox Tee). He talked about history mozilla, how it actually came into existence and Free the Web philosophy, why do we need projects Mozilla and how it has transformed the web we look at it now. Free goodies were been continuously distributed by volunteers during the whole session and audience was making every attempt to atleast grab one. By now the whole session has become very interactive and people were simply throwing questions at the speaker which he was glad to answer. (4). Fedoraproject by Anirudh singh shekhawat (fedora ambassador and 3rd year student). Well it was high time we talked about fedora which we were going to install in everyone's computer during the install fest. I started the talk with what is fedora and stuff like who uses fedora around the world, people behind fedora etc etc. The one important point I wanted to make was to answer the question people generally have regarding fedora is that fedora being not an easy to use desktop i.e. as mostly say a newbie non-friendly desktop, so I told everyone that fedora does not compete in that domain to provide with end users an easy to use desktop like some other distros do. But, rather it competes where it wants people to get involved in the community and help them give ways to contribute back to the community. It wants a consumer to become a contributor. With a wide sphere fedora project which requires not even technical people but rather non-techies to do things like documentation,Marketing,Speakers and the beautiful Artwork which fedora has become known of. That was enough of talking for newbies to get a little introduction of FOSS I guess. So in the end we decided to have a BoF session to clear their brains from any proprietary stuff they might have been left with. And as we expected we were fired with questions, coming from every corner of the room. Everyone was calmed down and we started to take one question at a time. Most were the general questions like why should we use linux, what it has that windows does not have,the virus, security features etc. The session proved to be the important of all and I think at the end of it everyone was convinced to every extend to put a linux distro in his/her computer and fiddle with the damn thing. After the workshop we took a half an hour lunch/chichat break where the lunch was also provided by the college. Fedora Install fest- Thanks to Mr. Rahul sundaram and Mr.susmit who graciously sent us 100 fedora-10 DVDs for the install fest. And all thanks to Udit that we were given an Air-conditioned, projector equipped, Internet ready lab for the install fest. So we quickly got hold of a participant's laptop, connected it to the projector, distributed DVDs and turned ON the fedora magic. The projector was used to show everyone what steps to follow for the installation process and it turned out to be very easy for everyone. We were also explaining some stuff as they came along like swap,ext3, LVM etc. And soon all the manual work was done and all laptops were now installing fedora. We used this free time to tell everyone about how to get codecs to play restricted audio/video files like mp3,avi etc and also told them how to get help on the internet and most importantly IRC. One thing which we really missed during the install fest were laptops with ATI cards and an opportunity to fire at ATI as well, if only it wouldn't have worked, we certainly dont come out as crazy yuppies who'd simply fire words at anyone, but in the ATI case, we wouldn't have minded it either :). So after the installation, time for the first boot. And I remember the gaping faces, when they saw fedora booting and they were very happy to have something like that on their machine. There were some animation guys who were so happy with the kind of Artwork fedora has been doing and they in no time would love to contribute back to the community. With some more remarks like that we just couldn't hide the smiles from our faces and felt good about the whole event and thanked everyone for the support and an opportunity to spread the freedom movement around. As we were leaving the college there was a rock band competition about to start and we could hear the drums and guitars being tested, the mood was rightly set and we marched through the gates as the soldiers of the great freedom revolution, feeling happy to bring it to our little place called jaipur and determined as ever to take it further... regards Anirudh singh IRC nick Acedip lugj IRC channel - #lug-jaipur -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/FA/L/MU/P/S !d s:- a-- C UL P++ L+++ E- W++ N++ o K-- w--- O- M- V PS PE Y PGP t 5 X R tv b DI D G e h+ r- y++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From inode0 at gmail.com Tue May 5 20:26:45 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 15:26:45 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need some help on "[Fedora-freemedia-list] What Now James?" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:33 AM, David Ramsey wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > Greetings.? :) > > Everyone, came across a thread on the Fedora-freemedia-list which may need > some TLC help.? :) > > ======================================================= > > "[Fedora-freemedia-list] What Now James?" - > > Currently starts here - > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/fedora-freemedia-list/2009-May/msg00146.html > > ... > > Currently ends here - > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/fedora-freemedia-list/2009-May/msg00298.html > > ======================================================= Private lists aren't available for the public to read so most people won't be able to read them. This has been raised with the fedora board and they are the authoritative source of how such things should be handled anyway. I do think there is an important question not raised in this thread though. How can ambassadors help their fellow ambassadors and other fedora contributors who happen to be residents of embargoed nations? Frankly I think we did a very poor job of being ambassadors in this case, but that might largely be the result of our not knowing what our boundaries are in cases like this. John From nacross at gmail.com Tue May 5 20:47:55 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 14:47:55 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need some help on "[Fedora-freemedia-list] What Now James?" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:26 PM, inode0 wrote: > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:33 AM, David Ramsey wrote: >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Greetings.? :) >> >> Everyone, came across a thread on the Fedora-freemedia-list which may need >> some TLC help.? :) >> >> ======================================================= >> >> "[Fedora-freemedia-list] What Now James?" - >> >> Currently starts here - >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/fedora-freemedia-list/2009-May/msg00146.html >> >> ... >> >> Currently ends here - >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/fedora-freemedia-list/2009-May/msg00298.html >> >> ======================================================= > > Private lists aren't available for the public to read so most people > won't be able to read them. This has been raised with the fedora board > and they are the authoritative source of how such things should be > handled anyway. > > I do think there is an important question not raised in this thread > though. How can ambassadors help their fellow ambassadors and other > fedora contributors who happen to be residents of embargoed nations? > > Frankly I think we did a very poor job of being ambassadors in this > case, but that might largely be the result of our not knowing what our > boundaries are in cases like this. > > John > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > The question was raised at the time Joerg send the welcome message including an ambassador in IRAN. I was expectant of news because it was close of the time that NOVA (Cuban distro) was released and brought some opinions about dealing with embargoed nations. The LATAM ambassador list was hotter that the global ambassador list on this topic. Anyway, the point is that there was no advice from the list at that time. Just a few scratching their heads not sure how to deal with an embargoed ambassador asking for advise on how to proceed. I, feeling myself a newbie, was not really into advising on that complicated topic. Not giving proper advice at that time let this evolve into the free-media tracking system. I feel guilty as well. best regards to all -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From frankly3d at gmail.com Tue May 5 22:19:58 2009 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 23:19:58 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need some help on "[Fedora-freemedia-list] What Now James?" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A00BB8E.5000204@gmail.com> On 05/05/09 21:26, inode0 wrote: > > Private lists aren't available for the public to read so most people > won't be able to read them. This has been raised with the fedora board > and they are the authoritative source of how such things should be > handled anyway. +1 > > I do think there is an important question not raised in this thread > though. How can ambassadors help their fellow ambassadors and other > fedora contributors who happen to be residents of embargoed nations? I believe the question was on the minds of most contributors, thought not committed to type. > > Frankly I think we did a very poor job of being ambassadors in this > case, but that might largely be the result of our not knowing what our > boundaries are in cases like this. I would disagree here, most of us know, that when we joined the Fedoraproject, it was under certain conditons including: legal stuff. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/Download/ExportRegulations which as Ambassadors, we also have to comply with, But the unfortunate thing, from a free-media pov they can cause personal dilemmas. Putting my heart on my shirt, I personally don't agree with denying legitimate software to anyone. Notwithstanding that, as an individaul, I cannot put my ideal world, over the harsh reality. The best they can be done as an Ambassador, is to hope for change in the legal\political arena. Frank -- msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d Still Learning From inode0 at gmail.com Tue May 5 22:57:31 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 17:57:31 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Need some help on "[Fedora-freemedia-list] What Now James?" In-Reply-To: <4A00BB8E.5000204@gmail.com> References: <4A00BB8E.5000204@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: > On 05/05/09 21:26, inode0 wrote: >> Frankly I think we did a very poor job of being ambassadors in this >> case, but that might largely be the result of our not knowing what our >> boundaries are in cases like this. > > I would disagree here, most of us know, > that ?when we joined the Fedoraproject, > it was under certain conditons including: > legal stuff. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/Download/ExportRegulations > > which as Ambassadors, we also have to comply with, > > But the unfortunate thing, from a free-media pov they can cause > personal dilemmas. > > Putting my heart on my shirt, > I personally don't agree with denying legitimate software to anyone. > Notwithstanding that, as an individaul, > I cannot put my ideal world, over the harsh reality. > > The best they can be done as an Ambassador, > is to hope for change in the legal\political arena. I think we can do better than that. We had a fellow ambassador throw up his hands in frustration and say "I've had enough, I quit." I would like to learn from this experience so that if and when it happens again we can be better prepared to work with our fellow contributor to have it not result in the level of frustration that it did this time. We clearly have constraints, but we also clearly do not fully understand the nature and extent of those constraints which makes our job impossible in a situation such as this. >From my perspective what happened was we left this ambassador to do what he wanted which is normally ok. Every time he tried to do something someone popped up and said to him, "no, you can't do that." Wouldn't it be better if we knew the scope of the limitations we work under and could help the ambassador understand those limitations and find things he *can* do instead? I intended to discuss this with the board at its public meeting today. That opportunity was lost but perhaps it can be regained on a mailing list. John From rishikesh at fedoraproject.org Wed May 6 02:03:53 2009 From: rishikesh at fedoraproject.org (Rishikesh Sharma) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 07:33:53 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 11 Release Event in Manipur Central University, Imphal Message-ID: <7cb778c60905051903i6f14cdefs926113570a41b2ec@mail.gmail.com> Hi Everyone, This time again, I am planning to organise Fedora 11 Release Party at Manipur Central University, Imphal. The schedule date is on 3rd June, 2009 and venue is at Department of Computer Science, Manipur Central University. I had a formal meeting with the Head of Department of computer science, Mr. Tejmani regarding the upcoming event. He is also agreed for the event at the University. I will update with more details again. Regards, Rishikesh Sharma Imphal, Manipur. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Open floor. > > Also, I'd like to discuss whether or not a greater frequency of > meetings in this region is something people would like, or if > Ambassadors feel like they have the right balance of meetings, > access to resources, etc. that they need right now. > > --Max > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus > mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > From g5_fosslover at yahoo.in Wed May 6 06:51:52 2009 From: g5_fosslover at yahoo.in (Gaurav Prabhu) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 12:21:52 +0530 (IST) Subject: [Ambassadors] 26th April - foss workshop/fedora install fest event report Message-ID: <898222.29185.qm@web95111.mail.in2.yahoo.com> >The following lines came to my mind >May the winds be upon our back, >And the sun upon our face, >And the wings of destiny carry us aloft to dance with the stars....... Nice description. Well written. Regards, Gaurav Prabhu Own a website.Get an unlimited package.Pay next to nothing.*Go to http://in.business.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From frankly3d at gmail.com Wed May 6 07:18:24 2009 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 08:18:24 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Jboss Community and Fedora In-Reply-To: <3161376e0905060013j2db55c12j80e0a925700403d1@mail.gmail.com> References: <3161376e0905060013j2db55c12j80e0a925700403d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0139C0.7060103@gmail.com> On 06/05/09 08:13, Frederic Hornain wrote: > Dear *, > > Could someone tell me if it exist a yum repo I can use to install Jboss > 4.x.x ? > If not why Jboss Community packages are not provided as RPM with Fedora ? > Thanks for your reply. > > BR > Frederic https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JBoss Frank -- msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d Still Learning From fhornain at gmail.com Wed May 6 07:24:35 2009 From: fhornain at gmail.com (Frederic Hornain) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 09:24:35 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Jboss Community and Fedora In-Reply-To: <4A0139C0.7060103@gmail.com> References: <3161376e0905060013j2db55c12j80e0a925700403d1@mail.gmail.com> <4A0139C0.7060103@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3161376e0905060024l5814cf64q7976fec4a2419128@mail.gmail.com> Dear Frank, Thanks a lot for this hint. BR Frederic On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) < frankly3d at gmail.com> wrote: > On 06/05/09 08:13, Frederic Hornain wrote: > >> Dear *, >> >> Could someone tell me if it exist a yum repo I can use to install Jboss >> 4.x.x ? >> If not why Jboss Community packages are not provided as RPM with Fedora ? >> Thanks for your reply. >> >> BR >> Frederic >> > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JBoss > > Frank > > -- > msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d > Still Learning > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- ----------------------------------------------------- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Olpc mailing list olpc-open at laptop.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Wed May 6 08:58:42 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:58:42 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER -- EMEA meeting -- May 06 @ 2000 UTC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Reminder. > Our monthly EMEA Ambassadors meeting will be this coming Wednesday, > May 6, at 2000 UTC (2200 CEST). > > I threw a basic agenda up on the wiki: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-05-06 > > 1. Review upcoming events. > 2. Discuss needs that folks have (resources, budget, etc) > 3. Reminders of any reimbursements that are still due. > 4. Any questions about FUDCon Berlin. > 5. Open floor. > > Also, I'd like to discuss whether or not a greater frequency of > meetings in this region is something people would like, or if > Ambassadors feel like they have the right balance of meetings, access > to resources, etc. that they need right now. --Max From kam at kamsalisbury.com Wed May 6 11:41:22 2009 From: kam at kamsalisbury.com (Kam) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 04:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] (Event Report) TCF 2009 Message-ID: <4a017762.0a025a0a.5427.5d4c@mx.google.com> The Trenton Computer Festival (TCF) held in New Jersey USA was a moderate sucess from the Fedora Ambassador activity perspective. Held every April, TCF brings together electronics enthusiasts of all types. This April 25/26, TCF allowed Fedora to be represented with the Philadelphia Linux Users Group (PLUG http://phillylinux.org) and the New Jersey Linux Users Group (NJLUG http://www.njlug.org). Well over 100 people stopped by the exposition tabels to inquire about Fedora or Linux in general. Thanks, Kam http://kamsalisbury.com From vincent at vanderkussen.org Wed May 6 17:26:25 2009 From: vincent at vanderkussen.org (Vincent Van der Kussen) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 19:26:25 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] belux irc log from 29/04 Message-ID: <1241630785.4878.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Sorry for the delay, but i'm quite busy lately This is the log http://vincentvdk.fedorapeople.org/IRC-log-29-04-09 Regards, Vincent From stickster at gmail.com Wed May 6 18:36:06 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:36:06 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] projectofedora.org? Message-ID: <20090506183606.GH3570@localhost.localdomain> Hello, If there are any Portuguese ambassadors on this list involved with the projectofedora.org site, could you raise your hand and get in touch with me? Thanks! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From mspevack at redhat.com Wed May 6 21:31:13 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 23:31:13 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: REMINDER -- EMEA meeting -- May 06 @ 2000 UTC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 6 May 2009, Max Spevack wrote: >> Our monthly EMEA Ambassadors meeting will be this coming Wednesday, >> May 6, at 2000 UTC (2200 CEST). Here's the log: http://mspevack.fedorapeople.org/logs/2009-05-06-emea-ambassadors.html From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Thu May 7 09:55:19 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:55:19 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] IEEE International Conference in Tunisia Message-ID: <50baabb30905070255r12676346y2927508fa696d522@mail.gmail.com> Hello there, The 16th IEEE International Conference on Electronics, Circuits, and Systems, ICECS 2009 [1], will be held in Tunisia on the 13th to 16th December 2009. The wiki page [2] says we have 7 ambassadors in Tunisia. Can anyone of you represent FEL at that conference ? Tasks include: - writing and sending a paper (will be done by me) - prepare local ambassadors with the talking points (will be done by me) - attend the conference and distribute your Fedora business cards (eat good food too :) ) - if our paper is selected by the chair, the ambassador will give a brief introduction about Fedora&FEL You may find other publications, screenshots and presentations on [3]. I believe that FEL should be sending papers to technical conferences around the world. These papers will describe our opensource EDA solutions and Fedora's key features eventually. If you are aware of such conferences in your locality, please let me know :) [1]: http://www.icecs2009.org/ [2]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList#Africa [3]: http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL Kind regards, Chitlesh http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From nihedmm at gmail.com Thu May 7 10:47:27 2009 From: nihedmm at gmail.com (nihed mbarek) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:47:27 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] IEEE International Conference in Tunisia In-Reply-To: <50baabb30905070255r12676346y2927508fa696d522@mail.gmail.com> References: <50baabb30905070255r12676346y2927508fa696d522@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5bddd8fd0905070347y38d00a45g42acd7b57d56f095@mail.gmail.com> Hi, It will be a pleasure for me to represent Fedora on this Event. Best regards On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > Hello there, > > The 16th IEEE International Conference on Electronics, Circuits, and > Systems, ICECS 2009 [1], will be held in Tunisia on the 13th to 16th > December 2009. > > The wiki page [2] says we have 7 ambassadors in Tunisia. Can anyone of > you represent FEL at that conference ? > > Tasks include: > - writing and sending a paper (will be done by me) > - prepare local ambassadors with the talking points (will be done by me) > - attend the conference and distribute your Fedora business cards (eat > good food too :) ) > - if our paper is selected by the chair, the ambassador will give a > brief introduction about Fedora&FEL > > You may find other publications, screenshots and presentations on [3]. > > I believe that FEL should be sending papers to technical conferences > around the world. These papers will describe our opensource EDA > solutions and Fedora's key features eventually. > > If you are aware of such conferences in your locality, please let me know > :) > > [1]: http://www.icecs2009.org/ > [2]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList#Africa > [3]: http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL > > Kind regards, > Chitlesh > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- M'BAREK Med Nihed, Analyst Revenue Assurance Tunisie Telecom http://www.nihed.com Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa PUB 1024D/9E2FFB76 Date 2009/02/14 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Thu May 7 19:14:29 2009 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 21:14:29 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] 2009-05-07 FAMSCO Meeting Summary Message-ID: <20090507211429.05333e87@mrtomlinux.org> Hello and welcome to this tenth FAMSCO weekly meeting summary. The latest meeting was hold on May 7th 2009 on #fedora-meeting Attendees: Francesco Fugolini Thomas Canniot Joerg Simon Regreted attendees: Rodrigo Padula David Nalley Max Spevack Susmit Shannigrahi Francesco announces the agenda... 1) Release Events: local organization and status 2) Release Events: what FAmSCo should do in the next weeks? 3) Release Events: is there any proposal to make to improve it (from FAmSCo and people who will attend it). ... and asks to take account of Max' questions about Release Events : (1) When will media be available in different regions? (2) if the release event will be before media is available, will we advertise that people should bring USB keys and can get Live USBs or their own Fedora ISOs? (3) Are ambassadors in various regions starting to think about the dates/locations of their release parties? How do we ensure that we have quality events? Francesco starts by stating that he has invited people on the global mailing to organize events for the release of Fedora 11. Joerg added that FAMSCO should have a role of giving the impulse about Release Events, that Thomas deepened by stating that he can't see FAMSCO's role about Release Events dealing with concrete things (ordering rooms, giving presentation, do some marketing, etc.). However, Thomas sees FAMSCO's role in giving advice on organizing a good Release Event. Thomas volunteers himself to write mail / blog post about how to organize a Release Event. Joerg also reminded everyone that we used to have competition between Release Events. 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I'm going to propose that at tonight's meeting and again at the meeting on the 3rd Tuesday in May attendees can vote for the new meeting schedule. Each person only gets one vote even if they attend both meetings. I'll suggest the following meeting options but feel free to propose others if you like. (1) 1st Thursday/3rd Tuesday each month as we have met this quarter on an experimental basis (2) 1st and 3rd Tuesday or Thursday each month We will have everyone state a preference for Tuesday or Thursday and if (2) wins we'll go with the more popular day. This is my suggestion but you can veto it at the meeting tonight so don't be late! Thanks, John From hicham7575 at gmail.com Thu May 7 19:35:23 2009 From: hicham7575 at gmail.com (Hicham Aoufir) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 19:35:23 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] For Moroccan ambassadors Message-ID: <1440017f0905071235q18d15540ka2209f45f8f4ce4e@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I'm lookin for Moroccan ambassadors on this list involved with the projectofedora.org site, i wanna be in touch with you , Thanks! -- A.Hicham +212644158121 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Thu May 7 20:25:51 2009 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 22:25:51 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo Regional Meeting with LATAM - Correction - 14/05/2009 18.00 UTC Message-ID: I was noticed that there was a mistake in the Regional Meetings schedule: FAmSCo LATAM Regional Meeting will be hold on Thursday 14th at 18.00 UTC (not today). I apologize for any inconvenience it had cause. Regards Francesco Ugolini From chiheb.chabchoub at gmail.com Fri May 8 00:04:41 2009 From: chiheb.chabchoub at gmail.com (Chiheb Chabchoub) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 02:04:41 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] IEEE International Conference in Tunisia In-Reply-To: <5bddd8fd0905070347y38d00a45g42acd7b57d56f095@mail.gmail.com> References: <50baabb30905070255r12676346y2927508fa696d522@mail.gmail.com> <5bddd8fd0905070347y38d00a45g42acd7b57d56f095@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Me too Nihed, i will be in this event for represent fedora with you. Regards On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:47, nihed mbarek wrote: > Hi, > It will be a pleasure for me to represent Fedora on this Event. > > Best regards > > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH < > chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello there, >> >> The 16th IEEE International Conference on Electronics, Circuits, and >> Systems, ICECS 2009 [1], will be held in Tunisia on the 13th to 16th >> December 2009. >> >> The wiki page [2] says we have 7 ambassadors in Tunisia. Can anyone of >> you represent FEL at that conference ? >> >> Tasks include: >> - writing and sending a paper (will be done by me) >> - prepare local ambassadors with the talking points (will be done by me) >> - attend the conference and distribute your Fedora business cards (eat >> good food too :) ) >> - if our paper is selected by the chair, the ambassador will give a >> brief introduction about Fedora&FEL >> >> You may find other publications, screenshots and presentations on [3]. >> >> I believe that FEL should be sending papers to technical conferences >> around the world. These papers will describe our opensource EDA >> solutions and Fedora's key features eventually. >> >> If you are aware of such conferences in your locality, please let me know >> :) >> >> [1]: http://www.icecs2009.org/ >> [2]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList#Africa >> [3]: http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL >> >> Kind regards, >> Chitlesh >> http://clunixchit.blogspot.com >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > > -- > M'BAREK Med Nihed, > Analyst Revenue Assurance Tunisie Telecom > http://www.nihed.com > Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa > PUB 1024D/9E2FFB76 Date 2009/02/14 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- *Chiheb CHABCHOUB* Security Engineer at Satec Tunisia Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northen Africa _______ GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 5E0CCFA0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll suggest the following meeting options but feel > free to propose others if you like. > > (1) 1st Thursday/3rd Tuesday each month as we have met this quarter on > an experimental basis > (2) 1st and 3rd Tuesday or Thursday each month > > We will have everyone state a preference for Tuesday or Thursday and > if (2) wins we'll go with the more popular day. > > This is my suggestion but you can veto it at the meeting tonight so > don't be late! > > Thanks, > John > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Sorry I wont be able to attend tonights meeting. I am at a clients site with an emergency. I will read the logs after they are posted. -- Regards, Brian Powell http://fedoraproject.org http://wnylug.org From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Fri May 8 09:21:55 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 11:21:55 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Message-ID: <200905081121.59060.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear Ambassadors, let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Acardenas from Colombia https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Solarwinds from Morocco https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ananthgs from India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Winstar from Lebanon https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pankaj4u from India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Aznemesis from the USA https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Lennoazevedo from Brazil https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tuanta from Vietnam Regards Joerg p.s. 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In the next couple of days, the Documentation team is going to write > an official Release Announcement for Fedora 11 in English. > 2. As soon as this document exists in a final form, it is going to be > translated in a couple of languages, if all goes well German, French, > Spanish, Portuguese, Hindi, Italian and Arabic. This will be coordinated > by the Documentation team with the aid of the Translation team. These > translated versions should be available a few days before the final > release. > > Now with that being done, we need to coordinate around everything else. > > Earlier this year, the Marketing group has set up a structure called the > News Distribution Network (NDN) [1], which aims to distribute Fedora > news to the global media. Some Ambassadors from different languages have > joined this effort and will be pushing news to a list of publication [2] > they maintain. > > Besides that, there are a number of ways in which we really need the > Ambassadors help: > > 1. Track all the Fedora news you see on the web and add it to our press > archive page [3], this will help us judge the depth of coverage so that > we can focus our messaging more precisely in the future. > 2. At release time, and for a couple of days after that, we need you to > follow the comments on news websites. People will probably have > questions there, or you will have Fedora Myths to bust [4]. As much as > some of us might like to flame people, our official policy is to be as > professional and possible while at the same time making our points clear > and well understood. Making members of the community angry us will prove > unproductive. > 3. Blog! You can start right now, get vocal about Fedora! Talk about the > upcoming release and what the time table is. Talk about a feature you > care about. Talk about how we got to 11, but most importantly, just > talk! > > If you feel like there is anything to add to this list, then please feel > free to reply and make sure to cross post to fedora-marketing-list as > well. Also, please let everyone know in what capacity you can help so > that we can coordinate efforts amongst everyone. I hope that everyone > has a better understanding of the process now :) > > 1: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_news_distribution_network > 2: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications > 3: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/PressArchive/F11 > 4: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraMyths > > Have a nice day > Steven > > From herlo1 at gmail.com Fri May 8 16:38:18 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 10:38:18 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fwd: News and media coverage plan for Fedora 11 In-Reply-To: <1241762533.2350.5.camel@x301.axianet.ch> References: <1241762533.2350.5.camel@x301.axianet.ch> Message-ID: There was an attempt to pass this on to the ambassadors, so I am forwarding it on. Cheers, Clint ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Steven Moix Date: Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:01 AM Subject: News and media coverage plan for Fedora 11 To: Fedora Marketing List , fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com, fedora-docs-list at redhat.com, fedora-trans-list at redhat.com Hello everyone, The release date for Fedora 11 is coming close, so it's time for some coordination between the Ambassadors and the Marketing group! In this mail, I'm going to address different points, so everyone has a clear view of what is going on and how we can effectively split up the tasks. Also any feedback is of course welcome. 1. In the next couple of days, the Documentation team is going to write an official Release Announcement for Fedora 11 in English. 2. As soon as this document exists in a final form, it is going to be translated in a couple of languages, if all goes well German, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Hindi, Italian and Arabic. This will be coordinated by the Documentation team with the aid of the Translation team. These translated versions should be available a few days before the final release. Now with that being done, we need to coordinate around everything else. Earlier this year, the Marketing group has set up a structure called the News Distribution Network (NDN) [1], which aims to distribute Fedora news to the global media. Some Ambassadors from different languages have joined this effort and will be pushing news to a list of publication [2] they maintain. Besides that, there are a number of ways in which we really need the Ambassadors help: 1. Track all the Fedora news you see on the web and add it to our press archive page [3], this will help us judge the depth of coverage so that we can focus our messaging more precisely in the future. 2. At release time, and for a couple of days after that, we need you to follow the comments on news websites. People will probably have questions there, or you will have Fedora Myths to bust [4]. As much as some of us might like to flame people, our official policy is to be as professional and possible while at the same time making our points clear and well understood. Making members of the community angry us will prove unproductive. 3. Blog! You can start right now, get vocal about Fedora! Talk about the upcoming release and what the time table is. Talk about a feature you care about. Talk about how we got to 11, but most importantly, just talk! If you feel like there is anything to add to this list, then please feel free to reply and make sure to cross post to fedora-marketing-list as well. Also, please let everyone know in what capacity you can help so that we can coordinate efforts amongst everyone. I hope that everyone has a better understanding of the process now :) 1: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_news_distribution_network 2: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications 3: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/PressArchive/F11 4: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraMyths Have a nice day Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list From ahmed at farghal.com Fri May 8 17:20:08 2009 From: ahmed at farghal.com (Ahmed Soliman) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 20:20:08 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Message-ID: <883ff9fb0905081020r6a314bc4y3e5d3c021351642d@mail.gmail.com> Welcome everybody Ahmed Soliman Software Engineer B-Virtual Team. Thebe Technology. Egypt - Belgium 16 Nehro St. Heliopolis. Cairo Egypt. http://www.b-virtual.org http://www.thebetechnology.com On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 7:00 PM, wrote: > Send Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-ambassadors-list-request at redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-ambassadors-list-owner at redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-ambassadors-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: IEEE International Conference in Tunisia (Chiheb Chabchoub) > 2. Re: FAmNA Meeting Reminder (Brian Powell) > 3. Fedora Ambassadors Welcome (JoergSimon) > 4. Re: Fedora Ambassadors Welcome (Joerg Simon) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 02:04:41 +0200 > From: Chiheb Chabchoub > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] IEEE International Conference in Tunisia > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi, > > Me too Nihed, i will be in this event for represent fedora with you. > > Regards > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:47, nihed mbarek wrote: > > > Hi, > > It will be a pleasure for me to represent Fedora on this Event. > > > > Best regards > > > > > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH < > > chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Hello there, > >> > >> The 16th IEEE International Conference on Electronics, Circuits, and > >> Systems, ICECS 2009 [1], will be held in Tunisia on the 13th to 16th > >> December 2009. > >> > >> The wiki page [2] says we have 7 ambassadors in Tunisia. Can anyone of > >> you represent FEL at that conference ? > >> > >> Tasks include: > >> - writing and sending a paper (will be done by me) > >> - prepare local ambassadors with the talking points (will be done by me) > >> - attend the conference and distribute your Fedora business cards (eat > >> good food too :) ) > >> - if our paper is selected by the chair, the ambassador will give a > >> brief introduction about Fedora&FEL > >> > >> You may find other publications, screenshots and presentations on [3]. > >> > >> I believe that FEL should be sending papers to technical conferences > >> around the world. These papers will describe our opensource EDA > >> solutions and Fedora's key features eventually. > >> > >> If you are aware of such conferences in your locality, please let me > know > >> :) > >> > >> [1]: http://www.icecs2009.org/ > >> [2]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList#Africa > >> [3]: http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> Chitlesh > >> http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > >> > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > M'BAREK Med Nihed, > > Analyst Revenue Assurance Tunisie Telecom > > http://www.nihed.com > > Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa > > PUB 1024D/9E2FFB76 Date 2009/02/14 > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- *Chiheb CHABCHOUB* > Security Engineer at Satec Tunisia< > http://www.satectunisie.groupesatec.com/> > Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northen Africa > _______ > GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 5E0CCFA0 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/20090508/1a53302b/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 20:38:11 -0400 > From: Brian Powell > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Reminder > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > <96365e610905071738v332bc694p972a50598f04281c at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 3:19 PM, inode0 wrote: > > Just a quick reminder that FAmNA will be meeting tonight in the usual > > place at the usual time. > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-05-07 > > > > There are some important topics to discuss this month including budget > > for events in Q2, scheduling FAmNA meetings beginning in June, SELF, > > new merchandise updates, and more. > > > > I'm going to propose that at tonight's meeting and again at the > > meeting on the 3rd Tuesday in May attendees can vote for the new > > meeting schedule. Each person only gets one vote even if they attend > > both meetings. I'll suggest the following meeting options but feel > > free to propose others if you like. > > > > (1) 1st Thursday/3rd Tuesday each month as we have met this quarter on > > an experimental basis > > (2) 1st and 3rd Tuesday or Thursday each month > > > > We will have everyone state a preference for Tuesday or Thursday and > > if (2) wins we'll go with the more popular day. > > > > This is my suggestion but you can veto it at the meeting tonight so > > don't be late! > > > > Thanks, > > John > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > Sorry I wont be able to attend tonights meeting. I am at a clients > site with an emergency. > > I will read the logs after they are posted. > > -- > Regards, > > Brian Powell > http://fedoraproject.org > http://wnylug.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 11:21:55 +0200 > From: JoergSimon > Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <200905081121.59060.jsimon at fedoraproject.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear Ambassadors, > > let? welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Acardenas from Colombia > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Solarwinds from Morocco > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ananthgs from India > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Winstar from Lebanon > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pankaj4u from India > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Aznemesis from the USA > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Lennoazevedo from Brazil > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tuanta from Vietnam > > Regards Joerg > p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List > -- > Joerg (kital) Simon > jsimon at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon > http://kitall.blogspot.com > Key Fingerprint: > 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 198 bytes > Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. > Url : > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/20090508/223ecf38/attachment.bin > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 11:37:22 +0200 > From: Joerg Simon > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <200905081137.27026.jsimon at fedoraproject.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Am Freitag 08 Mai 2009 11:21:55 schrieb JoergSimon: > > Dear Ambassadors, > > > > let? welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pankaj4u from India > > a correction -> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pankaj4u4m > > > Regards Joerg > > p.s. 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Cross) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:19:50 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo Regional Meeting with LATAM - Correction - 14/05/2009 18.00 UTC In-Reply-To: <1d24cdf80905081433v7978e834q2e44aa0afa97971c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1d24cdf80905081433v7978e834q2e44aa0afa97971c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez wrote: > no problem, tough can anyone from LATAM attend? > I am saving time for attending to this meeting. -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From tatica at fedoraproject.org Fri May 8 22:21:01 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 17:51:01 +1930 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo Regional Meeting with LATAM - Correction - 14/05/2009 18.00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: <1d24cdf80905081433v7978e834q2e44aa0afa97971c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <27a6293b0905081521r19b3a327qd4ac94ceb4a2087f@mail.gmail.com> I'll be there :) 2009/5/9 Neville A. Cross : > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez > wrote: >> no problem, tough can anyone from LATAM attend? >> > > I am saving time for attending to this meeting. > > -- > Neville > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v > Linux User # 473217 > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" From stickster at gmail.com Fri May 8 22:22:44 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 18:22:44 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Free Media Issues In-Reply-To: <4A03D7C5.9070808@gmail.com> References: <78323d480905050900w33f90f5fiba6fbae5c8d9a955@mail.gmail.com> <20090505161418.GK3448@localhost.localdomain> <4A03D7C5.9070808@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090508222244.GN4080@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 07:57:09AM +0100, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: > On 05/05/09 17:14, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 09:30:11PM +0530, Mani A wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> See this long thread titled 'What Now James?' in the freemedia list >>> (private list) >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-freemedia-list >>> >>> A decision needs to taken. >> >> I would love to review this thread so we can talk about it in the >> Board meeting. However, I am currently waiting for my subscription >> request to be approved. If there is a maintainer listening who can do >> that, I'd appreciate it. >> > > When the Board does, get back to the Ambassador-List, > with something re. this. > Can it be more than the plain "Black & White" > As there is a lot of passion involved. Unfortunately, the legal guidance in this case is just that -- black and white. The Fedora Project is treated as any US entity or person by US law. US law includes embargoes and other regulations that place severe restrictions on the export of certain types of materials, including some of the software found in Fedora, to specific nations. (Other general restrictions exist which probably apply to Fedora as well.) These nations are Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Libya, Sudan, and Syria. Therefore, we're strictly forbidden from exporting Fedora to those nations, or from aiding in their transference. For example, we cannot accept requests to ship media to those nations under any part of the Fedora Project. This is a very unfortunate situation, and despite the Board's sentiment, we're bound by the law. Just to be clear, this is not a new policy; these laws have existed for some time and Fedora has always observed them as far as I know. The discussion that took place in the Board's public IRC meeting can be found here, for those that are interested: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Meetings/2009-05-05 If anyone knows about any existing export law reform initiatives in the US that concern public free software projects, please let me or any other Board member know. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From inode0 at gmail.com Fri May 8 23:10:03 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 18:10:03 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Free Media Issues In-Reply-To: <20090508222244.GN4080@localhost.localdomain> References: <78323d480905050900w33f90f5fiba6fbae5c8d9a955@mail.gmail.com> <20090505161418.GK3448@localhost.localdomain> <4A03D7C5.9070808@gmail.com> <20090508222244.GN4080@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > The Fedora Project is treated as any US entity or person by US law. > US law includes embargoes and other regulations that place severe > restrictions on the export of certain types of materials, including > some of the software found in Fedora, to specific nations. ?(Other > general restrictions exist which probably apply to Fedora as well.) > These nations are Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Libya, Sudan, and Syria. > Therefore, we're strictly forbidden from exporting Fedora to those > nations, or from aiding in their transference. ?For example, we cannot > accept requests to ship media to those nations under any part of the > Fedora Project. Ok, with respect to distribution of media this is pretty clear. Although there is always this parenthetical "other restrictions" that remains a mystery to me. What are those restrictions? How do they apply to other areas of the Fedora Project? For example, in the Q1 events I see an event in Sudan. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents#FY10_Q1_.28March_2009_-_May_2009.29_3 What are Fedora representatives allowed to do at an event in one of these nations? My biggest question remains this. How can ambassadors know what they are allowed to do to help contributors from these nations to participate in the Fedora Project? John From stickster at gmail.com Fri May 8 23:52:34 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 19:52:34 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Free Media Issues In-Reply-To: References: <78323d480905050900w33f90f5fiba6fbae5c8d9a955@mail.gmail.com> <20090505161418.GK3448@localhost.localdomain> <4A03D7C5.9070808@gmail.com> <20090508222244.GN4080@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090508235234.GU4080@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 06:10:03PM -0500, inode0 wrote: > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > The Fedora Project is treated as any US entity or person by US law. > > US law includes embargoes and other regulations that place severe > > restrictions on the export of certain types of materials, including > > some of the software found in Fedora, to specific nations. ?(Other > > general restrictions exist which probably apply to Fedora as well.) > > These nations are Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Libya, Sudan, and Syria. > > Therefore, we're strictly forbidden from exporting Fedora to those > > nations, or from aiding in their transference. ?For example, we cannot > > accept requests to ship media to those nations under any part of the > > Fedora Project. > > Ok, with respect to distribution of media this is pretty clear. > Although there is always this parenthetical "other restrictions" that > remains a mystery to me. What are those restrictions? How do they > apply to other areas of the Fedora Project? I don't know that I even understand all of them. The export laws are pretty detailed and numerous, which is why there are lawyers who specialize in them. I do know that certain kinds of software, like strong cryptography, are included. Other kinds of software, maybe even software in general, may be included as well. There may be simple exchanges of goods including computer media that are included. The practical point is that Fedora feels the impact on a lot of different levels. > For example, in the Q1 events I see an event in Sudan. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents#FY10_Q1_.28March_2009_-_May_2009.29_3 > > What are Fedora representatives allowed to do at an event in one of > these nations? The Fedora Project cannot give any monetary support to these events. Doing so would create a business relationship that violates the law. > My biggest question remains this. How can ambassadors know what they > are allowed to do to help contributors from these nations to > participate in the Fedora Project? IANAL, but speaking as the FPL, the Fedora Project itself should not be hosting materials that violate, or give the appearance that Fedora is violating, export restrictions. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From fzied at dottn.com Sat May 9 07:21:00 2009 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 08:21:00 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] IEEE International Conference in Tunisia In-Reply-To: References: <50baabb30905070255r12676346y2927508fa696d522@mail.gmail.com> <5bddd8fd0905070347y38d00a45g42acd7b57d56f095@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <436bc6ca0905090021r3755151dt4116d9890a8f4790@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I'll be glad to be on it too. Zied. On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Chiheb Chabchoub wrote: > Hi, > > Me too Nihed, i will be in this event for represent fedora with you. > > Regards > > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:47, nihed mbarek wrote: > >> Hi, >> It will be a pleasure for me to represent Fedora on this Event. >> >> Best regards >> >> >> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH < >> chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hello there, >>> >>> The 16th IEEE International Conference on Electronics, Circuits, and >>> Systems, ICECS 2009 [1], will be held in Tunisia on the 13th to 16th >>> December 2009. >>> >>> The wiki page [2] says we have 7 ambassadors in Tunisia. Can anyone of >>> you represent FEL at that conference ? >>> >>> Tasks include: >>> - writing and sending a paper (will be done by me) >>> - prepare local ambassadors with the talking points (will be done by me) >>> - attend the conference and distribute your Fedora business cards (eat >>> good food too :) ) >>> - if our paper is selected by the chair, the ambassador will give a >>> brief introduction about Fedora&FEL >>> >>> You may find other publications, screenshots and presentations on [3]. >>> >>> I believe that FEL should be sending papers to technical conferences >>> around the world. These papers will describe our opensource EDA >>> solutions and Fedora's key features eventually. >>> >>> If you are aware of such conferences in your locality, please let me know >>> :) >>> >>> [1]: http://www.icecs2009.org/ >>> [2]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList#Africa >>> [3]: http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> Chitlesh >>> http://clunixchit.blogspot.com >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> M'BAREK Med Nihed, >> Analyst Revenue Assurance Tunisie Telecom >> http://www.nihed.com >> Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa >> PUB 1024D/9E2FFB76 Date 2009/02/14 >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > -- *Chiheb CHABCHOUB* > Security Engineer at Satec Tunisia > Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northen Africa > _______ > GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 5E0CCFA0 > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Zied Fakhfakh Dot TN - CTO Tel: +216 71 82 89 58 Fax: +216 71 88 61 12 http://www.dottn.com Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis Tunisia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Sat May 9 14:55:26 2009 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 11:55:26 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo Regional Meeting with LATAM - Correction - 14/05/2009 18.00 UTC In-Reply-To: <1d24cdf80905081433v7978e834q2e44aa0afa97971c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1d24cdf80905081433v7978e834q2e44aa0afa97971c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A05995E.2050808@projetofedora.org> I will be there :-) Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez escreveu: > no problem, tough can anyone from LATAM attend? > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Francesco Ugolini > > wrote: > > I was noticed that there was a mistake in the Regional Meetings > schedule: FAmSCo LATAM Regional Meeting will be hold on Thursday 14th > at 18.00 UTC (not today). > > I apologize for any inconvenience it had cause. > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Sat May 9 15:13:16 2009 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 12:13:16 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Question !! In-Reply-To: <1440017f0905090649p7ff87f15q6e5d44b33a9e6e3b@mail.gmail.com> References: <1440017f0905090649p7ff87f15q6e5d44b33a9e6e3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A059D8C.8050405@projetofedora.org> Hi Hicham Please, take a look http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ Hicham Aoufir escreveu: > Hi everybody , i was asking my self is there in programmed events for > Morocco ? > can i have an answer ? > > Regards > > -- > A.Hicham > +212644158121 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From gerold at lugd.org Sat May 9 15:14:17 2009 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 17:14:17 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Question !! In-Reply-To: <1440017f0905090649p7ff87f15q6e5d44b33a9e6e3b@mail.gmail.com> References: <1440017f0905090649p7ff87f15q6e5d44b33a9e6e3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1241882057.3314.10.camel@F10Lap1.homenet.local> Hi Aoufir, what do you think about looking around in your country and ask friends directly in Marocco which you know? For us outside your own country is it difficult to know what happens inside and where the power of linux is and where and when will some Computer- or Linux-events happen. On the other side, universitys are also good places to examine .... Regards Gerold Am Samstag, den 09.05.2009, 13:49 +0000 schrieb Hicham Aoufir: > Hi everybody , i was asking my self is there in programmed events for > Morocco ? > can i have an answer ? > > Regards > > > > -- > A.Hicham > +212644158121 > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Regards Gerold Kassube Fedora Ambassador Deutschland / Germany Schweiz / Switzerland Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From hicham7575 at gmail.com Sat May 9 17:51:42 2009 From: hicham7575 at gmail.com (Hicham Aoufir) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 17:51:42 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Question !! In-Reply-To: <1241882057.3314.10.camel@F10Lap1.homenet.local> References: <1440017f0905090649p7ff87f15q6e5d44b33a9e6e3b@mail.gmail.com> <1241882057.3314.10.camel@F10Lap1.homenet.local> Message-ID: <1440017f0905091051r30113543y139e5c7452283fb4@mail.gmail.com> i'll be happy to give to do this, i'll begin from my school supMTI(Engeenering School) and why not organise an event in school ! Regards Hicham -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hacataka at gmail.com Sat May 9 15:20:40 2009 From: hacataka at gmail.com (Hacataka Comodo) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 10:20:40 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora - Africa In-Reply-To: <4A059EE8.2040805@projetofedora.org> References: <4A059EE8.2040805@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: fedorianos I feel very good idea, we are all one idea and invest more in hosting fedorianos. 2009/5/9 Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira : > Edwin Ringo escreveu: >> Hi every body! Im Ringo from Tanzania, Africa. I will be in this event >> for represent fedora with you. thanks >> > > Hello Guys. > > I would like to help the brothers from "Mama Africa" to spread Fedora > and to organize Fedora Communities! > > We have a dedicated server for Latam. We can host Africans sites and > communities! > > If you need some help with infra, please, keep me in touch! > > Best Regards! > > -- > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ > Fedora Community Manager - Latin America > Red Hat Community and Academy Relations > http://www.proyectofedora.org > http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula > http://www.rodrigopadula.com > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- HACATAKA http://bitacorahelpdesk.blogspot.com/ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hacataka From inode0 at gmail.com Sat May 9 19:59:28 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 14:59:28 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Summary from 2009-05-07 Message-ID: * Announcements - herlo announced exciting new changes in the Fedora Classroom structure https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom as well as the new Fedora Classroom mailing list http://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/classroom * Events [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents] - several ambassadors pitched in to clean up some errant events on the wiki - herlo requested that events not be archived so quickly, it is easier to look back at what we have done recently if we keep at least the previous quarter's events still on the main events page on the wiki - discussion of Q2 event funding (and event funding in general) followed * inode0 expressed some discomfort about the way this has been handled in the past, funds being allocated based more on the level of previous similar events than on the actual needs of the particular event * inode0 suggested two goals (a) not have FAmNA micromanage event expenses but (b) give FAmNA some basis on which to allocate $250 to one event and $1,000 to another event Can these be achieved without imposing too much of a burden on event owners? * herlo suggested event owners submit a simple proposal for funds enumerating what can be enumerated (booth expense, room costs, etc.) * there seemed to be general agreement on herlo's idea and we ask that event owners for Q2 events submit funding requests at the first FAmNA meeting in June with the understanding that FAmNA will be flexible about adjusting these early funding levels when circumstances change * it was also noted that our ultimate goal is to provide each event with what it needs but we have finite resources available at any point in time and spending here means not spending there - inode0 observed that in Q2 NECC doesn't have an owner listed, does someone want to be the owner? * Budget Review [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget] - inode0 requested that as ambassadors spend money that they take it upon themselves to update our budget page to accurately reflect our spending - this should be a part of the standard operating procedure * Tasks [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks] - inode0 requested that ambassadors who take on tasks add them to our task page also - this record of our work reflects well on both the ambassador who does the work and on FAmNA as a whole and helps Max and others see what we are accomplishing * Q2 and beyond meeting schedule planning - we have been meeting on the 1st Thursday and 3rd Tuesday each month throughout Q1 as an experiment and need to set a future schedule - we will take votes tonight as well as at the next Tuesday meeting to determine our future course - given the choice of continuing as we are or switching to meeting on the 1st and 3rd "some day of the week that is consistent" the vote was 7-1 in favor of always meeting on the same day of the week inode0 noted that his personal preference was for a consistent day but that he was going to vote for the alternating schedule we have now since he perceives that more people are participating since that change was made given the choice of meeting on Tuesdays or Thursdays in the event that we switch to meeting on only one day the vote was 7-1 in favor of Tuesday we'll add to these votes any additional votes cast at the next meeting from other ambassadors (and will accept absentee votes from ambassadors who participate in meetings prior to the next meeting if submitted) the new schedule will be announced following the next FAmNA meeting * Release Parties - djf_jeff and others had a healthy discussion about release parties * Open Floor - No discussion items I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight. From inode0 at gmail.com Sat May 9 20:00:43 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 15:00:43 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2009-05-07 Message-ID: (08:00:28 PM) inode0: FAmNA Meeting - agenda @ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-05-07 (08:00:29 PM) StabbyMc: .fasinfo smcbrien (08:00:30 PM) zodbot: StabbyMc: User: smcbrien, Name: None, email: scott at mcbrien.net, Creation: 2009-02-21, IRC Nick: StabbyMc, Timezone: None, Locale: None, Extension: 5125272, GPG key ID: None, Status: active (08:00:33 PM) zodbot: StabbyMc: Approved Groups: cla_done ambassadors cla_fedora (08:00:35 PM) zodbot: StabbyMc: Unapproved Groups: None (08:00:41 PM) inode0: wait for roll call StabbyMc :) (08:00:44 PM) lcafiero: are we in session? (08:00:50 PM) herlo: StabbyMc: and use .fas :) (08:00:56 PM) StabbyMc: 'tis 9:00! (08:00:59 PM) VileGent: .fas jbwillia (08:01:00 PM) zodbot: VileGent: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' - jbwilliams 'Jason Williams' (08:01:07 PM) inode0: it is immensely helpful if you use .wikilink instead (08:01:22 PM) ***StabbyMc waits for roll call ... (08:01:38 PM) herlo: inode0: I kind of disagree, wikilink is not cool (08:02:00 PM) inode0: I'm the one moving it to the wiki so what helps me matters more (08:02:32 PM) inode0: doesn't that cut and paste into the list of people attending? (08:03:00 PM) inode0: Roll Call - I'll test (08:03:05 PM) inode0: .wikilink inode0 (08:03:07 PM) zodbot: inode0: [[User:inode0|John T. Rose]] (08:03:09 PM) StabbyMc: .wikilink smcbrien (08:03:10 PM) zodbot: StabbyMc: [[User:smcbrien|]] (08:03:20 PM) inode0: ok, maybe not (08:03:34 PM) VileGent: .wikilink jbwillia (08:03:36 PM) zodbot: VileGent: [[User:jbwillia|Ben Williams]] (08:03:38 PM) djf_jeff: .wikilink jfsaucier (08:03:40 PM) zodbot: djf_jeff: [[User:jfsaucier|Jean-Francois Saucier]] (08:03:40 PM) lcafiero: so . . . (08:03:46 PM) lcafiero: .wikilink lcafiero (08:03:48 PM) zodbot: lcafiero: [[User:lcafiero|Larry Cafiero]] (08:04:14 PM) ninjazjb_: .wikilink Jasonbrown17 (08:04:16 PM) zodbot: ninjazjb_: User "Jasonbrown17" doesn't exist (08:04:27 PM) ninjazjb_: .wikilink jasonbrown17 (08:04:29 PM) zodbot: ninjazjb_: [[User:jasonbrown17|Jason Brown]] (08:06:04 PM) StabbyMc: More roll-call? (08:06:20 PM) inode0: Are there any announcements that won't be covered in the events or other sections of the meeting? (08:06:59 PM) inode0: StabbyMc hides his name too (08:07:05 PM) inode0: all round troublemaker (08:07:27 PM) StabbyMc: inode0: lets not forget jerk, big, big jerk. (08:07:52 PM) inode0: Ok, then let's take a quick look at events (08:07:57 PM) ***herlo wants to announce something (08:08:01 PM) inode0: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents (08:08:09 PM) ***herlo got pulled away on a phone call for a second... (08:08:28 PM) herlo: or should I wait inode0 ? (08:08:38 PM) ***inode0 notes that in Q1 we have events listed for sudan and greece and other non-NA places (08:08:55 PM) inode0: what are you wanting to do herlo? (08:09:23 PM) inode0: oh, sorry, missed that - go ahead and announce away! (08:09:35 PM) herlo: inode0: just wanting to mention that Fedora Classroom is looking for presenters (I do this every time I'm here). however, we've changed the format to a much more flexible format (08:09:58 PM) inode0: yes, a good change I think (08:10:05 PM) herlo: if you wish to present on anything on June 7, sign up for any time all day (UTC) at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom (08:10:06 PM) StabbyMc: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom ? (08:10:17 PM) herlo: StabbyMc: yes, and your's is correcter than mine (08:10:49 PM) herlo: the idea being that we've got a much wider range of presenters to gather during a 24 hour period (08:11:11 PM) inode0: definitely, and a wider range of students too (08:11:21 PM) herlo: also, I wanted to point out that we have a fedora classroom mailing list now, and that we'll be starting to suggest topics and announce events there as to not cause havoc to other mailing lists as much (08:11:30 PM) herlo: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/classroom (08:11:30 PM) StabbyMc: herlo: the new format is 1 day not two, + larger gaps between sessions? (08:11:36 PM) leitz: herlo, I love the idea. Am in the middle of an interstate move but hope to be involved more later. (08:11:43 PM) herlo: StabbyMc: can be, but it's much more open yes (08:11:57 PM) StabbyMc: herlo: Does this mean I name my own time? (08:12:03 PM) herlo: StabbyMc: it is only 1 day, but if you think about it, it really spans 2 days (08:12:06 PM) herlo: StabbyMc: yep! (08:12:18 PM) StabbyMc: V. Cool. (08:12:41 PM) herlo: from 00:00UTC (that's like 8pm EDT) to 23:00 UTC (7pm EDT). The times might be off an hour or two (08:12:59 PM) herlo: so go sign up on the mailing list (08:13:05 PM) herlo: and we'll get the party started :) (08:13:10 PM) ***herlo is eof (08:13:18 PM) inode0: good information (08:13:20 PM) crossbytes: sorry had to run out..all caught up now on reading .. (08:13:27 PM) inode0: moving back to events now (08:13:34 PM) herlo: crossbytes: sounds like a common thing :) (08:13:38 PM) StabbyMc: herlo: heard anything more from Spevak about new classroom? (08:13:48 PM) herlo: StabbyMc: in what sense? (08:13:49 PM) inode0: can I get a volunteer to fix the NA section so it only has NA events? (08:13:58 PM) ***StabbyMc will shut up now and wait until later. (08:14:05 PM) StabbyMc: inode0: on it. (08:14:05 PM) herlo: inode0: what happened? (08:14:25 PM) inode0: do you not see the EMEA events in our Q1 list? (08:14:41 PM) herlo: I do now (08:14:45 PM) ***herlo hadn't looked (08:14:51 PM) inode0: and actually our Q1 event in EMEAs too (08:14:55 PM) herlo: we should probably also send a reminder email to the ambassador list about that (08:15:04 PM) herlo: so did it just get swapped? (08:15:07 PM) inode0: ok, thanks StabbyMc (08:15:28 PM) inode0: I don't know, I noticed it right before the meeting (08:15:31 PM) herlo: nope, doesn't appear we have any q1 events there... (08:15:47 PM) herlo: inode0: one thing about that too. It'd be nice if we kept the events there for the entire quarter. (08:15:55 PM) inode0: the canada event is both places (08:15:57 PM) herlo: it is hard to know what events took place without that list... (08:16:20 PM) herlo: indeed, canadia is not part of EMEA, however :) (08:16:43 PM) StabbyMc: Fixy. (08:16:55 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: hum, excuse me, that was me this afternoon... (08:16:57 PM) inode0: herlo: I agree, will try to remember to ask Max to relax for a quarter (08:16:59 PM) herlo: inode0: so my point was, last quarter, I saw that the events would drop off right after they were finished. I think that defeats the purpose of the event page... (08:17:01 PM) djf_jeff: don't know how that happen... (08:17:07 PM) herlo: inode0: oh, did max do that? (08:17:10 PM) StabbyMc: Though I think they may have deleted our Q1 events, I had one there, now, no. (08:17:17 PM) inode0: he normally manages that page iirc (08:17:24 PM) herlo: StabbyMc: check the archive too, and history (08:17:35 PM) herlo: k, I think I mentioned it to him the other day (08:17:49 PM) djf_jeff: I will correct my fault, will not be long (08:18:06 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: no problem djf_jeff - not sure what went wrong (08:18:37 PM) inode0: more importantly we need to begin talking about Q2 events now (08:19:52 PM) inode0: let me take a minute to express one concern several people in FAmNA share (08:20:04 PM) djf_jeff: done for the edit (08:22:05 PM) inode0: feeling responsibility to be a good shepherd of Fedora's resources and feeling like we are mostly randomly assigning funding to events is bothering some of us a bit (08:22:35 PM) herlo: how so? (08:22:52 PM) inode0: we would like to (a) not micromanage how funds are spent for events but (b) have some basis for giving this event $250 and that event $1,000 (08:23:09 PM) StabbyMc: Q1 events according to history were moved to archive... (08:24:14 PM) inode0: so can we do anything to achieve those goals that doesn't offend or burden people too much? (08:25:10 PM) herlo: inode0: a couple thoughts... (08:25:14 PM) inode0: we have 5 pretty important Q2 events coming up (08:25:26 PM) herlo: we could set up some rough guidelines based upon size and need (08:25:54 PM) leitz: And expereince of presenter--I'd trust someone who has done this for a while. (08:25:57 PM) herlo: maybe we could get the event organizer to submit a simple proposal for funds. I think that'd be the easiest to get money (08:26:18 PM) herlo: something like: (08:26:23 PM) herlo: Booth costs: $50 (08:26:36 PM) herlo: Room Costs: $150 (08:26:40 PM) herlo: etc... (08:26:45 PM) herlo: depending on what it is... (08:26:53 PM) inode0: I would be very happy if event owners could submit a rough budget outline and request an amount (08:26:57 PM) herlo: and it can be evaluated at each meeting ?? (08:27:03 PM) ninjazjb_: this was never done before? (08:27:18 PM) herlo: ninjazjb_: it was done by FAmSCo before us (08:27:26 PM) ninjazjb_: o (08:27:32 PM) inode0: we have worked from funding events in a similar fashion to how FAmSCo funded them so far (08:27:38 PM) herlo: and they didn't really dole it out definitively either... (08:27:59 PM) ***djf_jeff need to go out for 5 minutes (08:28:09 PM) inode0: so if FAmSCo gave event X $750 and event Y was similar to X we guessed $750 to be reasonable (08:28:21 PM) herlo: right (08:28:55 PM) ninjazjb_: i c (08:29:08 PM) inode0: but I know I would be happier if the funding was more directed toward need rather than just saying here is a pile of cash - go find a way to spend it (08:29:42 PM) inode0: herlo: certainly we can always revisit needs as they arise too (08:29:44 PM) herlo: a lot of the funding will probably be spent (this year) in getting people to places where we don't normally have a presence. I think this is important (08:29:55 PM) inode0: and our goal is to give every event what they need (08:30:12 PM) herlo: if we pay for travel this year, we get a community there next year and lower costs for running the event/FAD (08:30:25 PM) ***herlo thinks that's what will happen at LFNW, for instance (08:31:16 PM) crossbytes: I think the costs like herlo said would also matter on how many people were how close to the event and costs of Hotels vary dramatically place to place.. (08:31:25 PM) inode0: does anyone object to the idea of event owners making a specific request for a funding level based on something early on? (08:31:59 PM) ninjazjb_: would there be a separate wiki page for proposals? (08:32:08 PM) leitz: No objection, assuming it can be adjusted as data comes in. (08:32:13 PM) herlo: +1 inode0 (08:32:21 PM) inode0: crossbytes: traditionally people expenses haven't been in the mix - so while we are trying to accommodate those I really don't want ambassadors getting used to them :) (08:32:30 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: +1 (08:32:36 PM) VileGent: maybe a tracker would work better for this (08:33:15 PM) herlo: VileGent: could be, we could use the famnaregionals trac instance for this too (or similar) (08:33:42 PM) VileGent: herlo something (08:34:34 PM) lcafiero: people expenses should be in the mix. (08:34:38 PM) inode0: ok, then event owners for Q2 events please think about this and try to submit a request by our first June meeting? (08:35:05 PM) lcafiero: and they'll go way down when people in the areas where events take place take the reins. (08:35:26 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: no problem for me (08:35:55 PM) inode0: lcafiero: there are differing opinions on this and the history is that they haven't been (08:36:28 PM) herlo: inode0: agreed (08:36:33 PM) inode0: I think even people who side with the traditional approach are agreeable to doing this to ramp things up now (08:36:34 PM) lcafiero: right, inode0, but you don't have events when you don't have people at them. (08:36:37 PM) herlo: make sure we make a big announcement about this (08:36:38 PM) leitz: Maybe the prospective Ambassador should work the area and ensure community exists. Worked for Billy Grahm (08:37:28 PM) herlo: leitz: I think what we're doing is building community. In some (many) cases, the community is there, but not organized. We need to travel some and build that community (08:37:41 PM) inode0: lcafiero: actually what you have is events where Fedora is represented by Red Hat employees which is not bad but also isn't ideal (08:38:06 PM) leitz: herlo--what I mean is that Billy Grahm didn't do a revival in an area until the community pre-existed for post-event support. (08:38:29 PM) leitz: Otherwise you're spending time and money on something without making sure the long-term growth potential is there. (08:39:08 PM) ***lcafiero checks and finds he's not a red hat employee. (08:39:10 PM) inode0: we should work on developing a local presence at the major conference locations that don't already have them (08:39:14 PM) leitz: So if the ambassador got with some college students or developers in the area before the event, you'd have a greater chance for success. (08:39:32 PM) herlo: leitz: that's why conferences are so great. The community comes there and is hunting for ways to participate :) (08:39:45 PM) inode0: lcafiero: and if you hadn't gone to LFNW Fedora would have been represented by Red Hat employees right? (08:40:07 PM) lcafiero: Um, if I hadn't done the organizing, probably not. But I don't know that for sure. (08:40:10 PM) inode0: I think it was better to have you there (08:40:49 PM) lcafiero: Then I don't see the objection to spending funds to get people to places where needed, especially when said people are taking time and making the effort. (08:41:12 PM) lcafiero: Just an opinion. (08:41:20 PM) inode0: lcafiero: actually no one objected (08:41:33 PM) inode0: I objected to expecting it :) (08:42:18 PM) leitz: If the Ambassadors are doing the pre-event work with the local community, I think it's a great idea. (08:42:34 PM) inode0: this really was a question about feeling like we have some idea what we are doing when we allocate budget for events (08:42:46 PM) lcafiero: your comment to crossbytes -- did I misunderstand that as an objection to spending funds to get people to places? (08:42:54 PM) lcafiero: crossbytes: traditionally people expenses haven't been in the mix - so while we are trying to accommodate those I really don't want ambassadors getting used to them :) (08:43:08 PM) inode0: that was a warning that ambassadors should not expect funding to go to events (08:43:08 PM) lcafiero: (direct quote from above) (08:43:59 PM) lcafiero: Right. Once folks get organized and in place -- something we succeeded with at LFNW -- that cost will go way down. (08:44:16 PM) herlo: indeed (08:44:21 PM) VileGent: i meanted i was going to SELF to my lug and it is looking like 3-4 more are coming as well (08:44:24 PM) inode0: that is one goal (08:44:48 PM) StabbyMc: Anyone flying into Atlanta for SELF that wants a ride to Clemson? (08:44:49 PM) lcafiero: But I don't think we should have ambassadors second-guessing whether to take the reins of an event because they're apprehensive about asking for travel. (08:45:04 PM) herlo: I think inode0's argument is that we don't just want to pay for a random ambassador to show up to an event unless we're getting value. That said, value usually comes with those in-between experiences at a conference. (08:45:09 PM) herlo: or event (08:45:12 PM) lcafiero: Agreed. (08:45:41 PM) lcafiero: Fortunately at LFNW, it was the perfect storm because everyone contributed above and beyond. (08:45:51 PM) ninjazjb_: i assumed that was implied as a vounteer (08:45:52 PM) inode0: and I don't think taking the reigns should make an ambassador expect to be funded for his expenses (08:45:59 PM) herlo: spevack has argued this for years, I've seen gdk do it too, and I am quite sure many, many others (including quiad) would agree that having ambassadors at every event is very important. (08:46:07 PM) inode0: it should be a case by case thing (08:46:59 PM) herlo: ninjazjb_: right, we're all volunteers. Sometimes though, you need assistance to accomplish the tasks that benefit the community. Money can help in those cases...we're just asking for a bit of formality now :) (08:47:11 PM) inode0: I think we've spent more than enough on that, agreed? (08:47:16 PM) herlo: yep (08:47:20 PM) ninjazjb_: yeah (08:47:59 PM) lcafiero: no, but I'll stand aside. go ahead with the rest of the meeting. (08:48:12 PM) leitz: Would this be a case where you have more than one level of Ambassador and privilidge? (08:48:21 PM) inode0: So the folks who have Q2 events please start thinking hard about budgets and make a specific (even though we understand it might be rough) funding request in June (08:48:44 PM) leitz: Someone who has done this before might get more $$ and more freedom than someone learning the ropes, like me. (08:48:52 PM) inode0: leitz: that is one big argument against funding travel - it can appear to create a class system of ambassadors and that isn't good (08:49:01 PM) inode0: at least I don't think that is good (08:49:31 PM) ninjazjb_: i wouldnt expect as being a newby to get funding for projects... (08:49:35 PM) leitz: As a most junior member, it doesn't bohter me at all. You pring more value, you get more freedom. (08:49:46 PM) leitz: pring/bring (08:49:57 PM) StabbyMc: I think that's silly. If the same rules for travel reimbursement apply to everyone and they're applied evenly, it won't be a problem. (08:50:00 PM) lcafiero: Weren't we moving on? (08:50:53 PM) inode0: yes, let's do (08:51:06 PM) leitz: +1 (08:51:10 PM) inode0: Does anyone know anything about NECC? It doesn't have an owner listed. (08:51:45 PM) herlo: inode0: we should find out who put it up and get them to help us find an owner (08:53:20 PM) inode0: ok (08:53:39 PM) inode0: two pretty quick requests for help (08:53:45 PM) inode0: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget (08:53:52 PM) inode0: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks (08:54:01 PM) inode0: these have issues (08:54:06 PM) herlo: inode0: I can do the budget one (08:54:10 PM) herlo: what needs to be done? (08:54:11 PM) inode0: mostly from not being used or kept up to date (08:54:25 PM) herlo: I assume that I just need to go through and clean it up and identify what we've spent? (08:54:51 PM) inode0: my request is for everyone who gets budget for whatever to take the responsibility to make the budget page accurate as events unfold (08:54:59 PM) herlo: +1 (08:55:13 PM) djf_jeff: +1 (08:55:34 PM) leitz: +1 (08:55:37 PM) inode0: some of the new guys, doing swag work, probably don't know about this so I'll talk to them later (08:55:55 PM) lcafiero: +1 (08:57:46 PM) inode0: the tasks page I would like to really make the same request for help with (08:58:21 PM) inode0: if you do a task please add it, if documents for project leaders and funders what you have done, and what FAmNA has done (08:58:45 PM) herlo: I think these are great ideas (08:59:44 PM) inode0: I would like to sneak in the scheduling discussion before release parties (09:00:06 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: no problem with that (09:00:26 PM) ***herlo has to go... (09:00:28 PM) inode0: this is the penultimate meeting during our experiment of switching meeting days (09:00:37 PM) inode0: herlo: I'll cover for you (09:00:50 PM) herlo: do I need to do something? I can wait 5 mins (09:01:00 PM) VileGent: inode link to tasks page please (09:01:12 PM) inode0: herlo: no, not unless you will say something different from our earlier conversation (09:01:35 PM) inode0: VileGent: last link I pasted (09:01:35 PM) herlo: ahh, indeed (09:01:54 PM) inode0: ok, starting in June we have no schedule (09:01:57 PM) inode0: for meetings (09:02:25 PM) inode0: I'd like to take a vote between continuing alternating and always meeting on the same day (09:02:38 PM) inode0: does that sound reasonable? any other wishes? (09:02:59 PM) ninjazjb_: i vote for the same day (if possible) (09:03:09 PM) lcafiero: same day (09:03:28 PM) StabbyMc: same day (09:03:31 PM) inode0: I guess we'll being voting then :) (09:03:34 PM) dthomasdigital: I'm late (09:03:37 PM) inode0: begin (09:03:45 PM) lcafiero: vote dthomasdigital vote! (09:03:48 PM) VileGent: same day (09:04:01 PM) djf_jeff: djf_jeff: same day if it's not thursday because I can't attend 90% of the time... (09:04:06 PM) dthomasdigital: Tuesday's Twice a month (09:04:09 PM) lcafiero: same day (09:04:14 PM) inode0: wait (09:04:16 PM) ***VileGent motions for tuesdays (09:04:21 PM) dthomasdigital: same day (09:04:21 PM) inode0: wait (09:04:31 PM) inode0: here are the initial choices (09:04:44 PM) inode0: (1) alternating between Tuesday and Thursday (09:04:51 PM) inode0: (2) meeting on the same day (09:04:58 PM) StabbyMc: 2 (09:05:04 PM) VileGent: 2 (09:05:05 PM) ninjazjb_: 2 (09:05:06 PM) inode0: if (2) wins we will vote on whether it is Tuesday or Thursday (09:05:08 PM) dthomasdigital: 2 (09:05:18 PM) djf_jeff: 2 (09:05:23 PM) crossbytes: 2 (09:05:43 PM) inode0: ok, now I get to be the oddball again (09:06:07 PM) inode0: I prefer (2) but I think (1) has substantially increased participation (09:06:13 PM) lcafiero: 2 (09:06:43 PM) inode0: so I'm going to vote 1 (09:06:50 PM) leitz: Then vote 3, same day, more people. :P (09:07:14 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: if everyone here on a thursday vote to switch to tuesday, I think we got everyone involved (09:07:28 PM) inode0: for the record please also indicate a vote for Tuesday or Thursday (09:07:35 PM) ninjazjb_: tuesday (09:07:47 PM) VileGent: tuesday (09:07:48 PM) crossbytes: tuesday (09:07:48 PM) djf_jeff: tuesday (09:07:49 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: we will also take votes at the next Tuesday meeting (09:07:55 PM) StabbyMc: Thursday (09:07:57 PM) dthomasdigital: tuesday (09:08:01 PM) lcafiero: tuesday (09:08:10 PM) ***StabbyMc conceedes to tyrany of the majority! (09:08:17 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: ah ok, didn't know that (09:08:35 PM) inode0: StabbyMc: tonight's vote is only part - the folks who come to the meeting on Tuesday's get to vote as well (09:09:05 PM) inode0: has everyone who want to voted on this tonight? (09:09:18 PM) inode0: oh, I forgot to (09:09:20 PM) leitz: Yes. I'm more lurker than decider. :) (09:09:22 PM) inode0: Tuesday (09:10:05 PM) inode0: ok, we'll conclude the voting in a couple of weeks but I suspect we can all guess where this is headed (09:10:27 PM) inode0: Release Parties! (09:11:11 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: can we give you some help? (09:12:12 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: are you still with us? (09:12:29 PM) djf_jeff: not necessarily help, more to see what others are doing (09:12:53 PM) inode0: ah, ok. feel free to just have the floor (09:12:58 PM) dthomasdigital: inode0 I just got the proof from the manufacturer and it looks exactly the way duffy wanted it, I Ok'd the proof so we should have the case badges real soon. (09:13:02 PM) inode0: ke4qqq: are you around for SELF? (09:13:02 PM) djf_jeff: it is the first release party in Quebec and I just want to see what others are planning, etc (09:13:37 PM) inode0: dthomasdigital: thanks for the update and thank you for your work making that happen (09:13:43 PM) dthomasdigital: We are New Mexico will be having it's first release party as well for fedora. (09:13:54 PM) lcafiero: We'll be having a release party on June 6 at the Felton LUG meeting. (09:13:55 PM) djf_jeff: if there are ressources (graphics, etc) already available (09:14:18 PM) ***inode0 steps away briefly - carry on (09:15:03 PM) djf_jeff: I plan to do some posters to announce the release party with a friend here, I will try to post them to the mailing list if it can help anyone (09:15:22 PM) dthomasdigital: djf_jeff that would be great (09:15:57 PM) lcafiero: Cabrillo College will have one as well, I'm sure, but the LUG meets on the third Friday so it won't be until June 19 (I think) (09:16:23 PM) dthomasdigital: When is 11's release date? (09:16:44 PM) djf_jeff: May 26, normally (09:17:05 PM) leitz: My anniversary...should be easy to remember. (09:17:26 PM) djf_jeff: leitz: you will a beautiful gift on this day ;) (09:17:42 PM) leitz: Thank you, one and all! ;) (09:19:08 PM) djf_jeff: good, I will try to post every graphics we do to the mailing list (09:20:00 PM) djf_jeff: I am impatient to see how many people will come to the release party, ~75 people came to the ubuntu party last week (09:20:48 PM) inode0: Did you guys see Francesco's call for a release party planning meeting? (09:21:29 PM) inode0: He expressed I think a little disappointment at today's FAmSCo meeting at the lack of response to it (09:22:26 PM) dthomasdigital: I did, I was at work so I could not give it the time I needed (09:22:59 PM) djf_jeff: one question I had was is there anything (pencil, stickers, etc) I can get for the release party? I didn't want to order a complete ambassador kits to waste the F10 DVD... (09:23:16 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: no, just see it, wonder how I miss it (09:23:30 PM) inode0: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-April/msg00227.html (09:24:11 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: order an ambassador kit regardless if you haven't (09:24:31 PM) inode0: and ask for whatever supplies you need for your release party too (09:25:07 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: good, will do it tomorrow (09:25:15 PM) inode0: and everyone please consider a usb station at your party and advertise its availability (09:25:52 PM) crossbytes: is there artwork for a usb station yet? (09:26:02 PM) ***inode0 doesn't know (09:26:37 PM) ***leitz doesn't know the details of a USB station... (09:26:39 PM) inode0: it isn't required though - just a laptop (09:26:45 PM) crossbytes: I thought it would be good to have it for the event box .. (09:26:59 PM) crossbytes: the artwork not the laptop.. (09:27:30 PM) StabbyMc: I have a T40 or T41 that could be in the event box, if someone wanted ... (09:28:01 PM) inode0: we have laptops donated by HP for all the event boxes - those aren't used at release parties though (09:29:02 PM) inode0: it is very easy to set up your laptop to create bootable usb sticks with Fedora for people (09:29:16 PM) VileGent: ok aters battleaxe says bedtime (09:29:24 PM) inode0: night VileGent (09:29:41 PM) djf_jeff: good night (09:29:49 PM) leitz: night night (09:29:53 PM) ninjazjb_: night (09:30:20 PM) inode0: let me mention before we wrap up that davdunc has ordered 10,000 Fedora logo tattoos for our upcoming events as well (09:30:29 PM) inode0: those should be arriving in the next couple of weeks (09:30:31 PM) lcafiero: +1 (09:31:02 PM) inode0: and let me encourage everyone else that producing swag for us isn't that hard to do (09:31:05 PM) crossbytes: +1 (09:31:17 PM) inode0: and the more we distribute that work the easier it is for everyone who does it (09:31:29 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: just before you close up, I want to ask if that's a good thing to open a Canada section for FreeMedia like I ask before, just in time for F11 (09:31:41 PM) inode0: dthomasdigital and davdunc joined the swag producing minions of Fedora recently (09:31:58 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: absolutely (09:32:21 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: If you have time I'd like to talk with you after the meeting briefly too (09:32:44 PM) djf_jeff: there is no Canada section at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia so I was wondering if I can start it (09:32:55 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: no problem (09:33:06 PM) inode0: so if anyone would like help by arranging Fedora stickers or Fedora pens or anything else please please please talk with us (09:33:17 PM) inode0: we can help you through the process (09:33:41 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: yes, absolutely, do it! (09:34:06 PM) dthomasdigital: I will testify to that inode0 and lots of folks at red hat helped me a lot with the case badge project. (09:34:18 PM) inode0: good opportunity to remind everyone that you very seldom actually need anyone's permission to do anything :) (09:34:29 PM) djf_jeff: good, will do tomorrow (09:34:40 PM) StabbyMc: is maxamillion defeated on pens? (09:35:02 PM) inode0: we want you to do things you enjoy, if they aren't being done just grab hold of them and start doing them (09:35:37 PM) leitz: I have the same philospohy in marriage... (09:36:01 PM) ***inode0 reminds leitz this meeting is logged forever (09:36:11 PM) ninjazjb_: lol (09:36:13 PM) dthomasdigital: lol (09:36:27 PM) inode0: and can be used in divorce proceedings (09:37:26 PM) ***leitz is too old and slow to catch anyone execpt the one he already caught... (09:37:30 PM) inode0: are there any other open floor items for tonight? (09:38:58 PM) inode0: ok, let's wrap this meeting then and carry on in #fedora-ambassadors (09:39:20 PM) inode0: thank you all for coming as always, next meeting on the 3rd Tuesday in May (09:39:22 PM) inode0: 5 (09:39:23 PM) inode0: 4 (09:39:25 PM) inode0: 3 (09:39:27 PM) inode0: 2 (09:39:29 PM) inode0: 1 (09:39:38 PM) inode0: EOM From dduncan at rubackedup.com Sat May 9 23:34:25 2009 From: dduncan at rubackedup.com (David Duncan) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 18:34:25 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2009-05-07 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes. I top-posted. sorrry. On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 3:00 PM, inode0 wrote: > (08:00:28 PM) inode0: FAmNA Meeting - agenda @ > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-05-07 > (08:00:29 PM) StabbyMc: .fasinfo smcbrien > (08:55:37 PM) inode0: some of the new guys, doing swag work, probably > don't know about this so I'll talk to them later The tattoos are scheduled to ship before the 11th and there are two designs. There was supposed to be one order of 10,0000 1.5in sq. and 5,0000 1.2in x 2.0in, but the company made a clerical error and ordered the two of them for a total of 2 at 10,0000 each. They are scheduled to arrive on or shortly after Monday. > (09:33:06 PM) inode0: so if anyone would like help by arranging Fedora > stickers or Fedora pens or anything else please please please talk If someone can get a better deal on pens, the best I could get was $0.52 each. > with us > (09:33:17 PM) inode0: we can help you through the process > (09:33:41 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: yes, absolutely, do it! > (09:34:06 PM) dthomasdigital: I will testify to that inode0 and lots > of folks at red hat helped me a lot with the case badge project. > (09:34:18 PM) inode0: good opportunity to remind everyone that you > very seldom actually need anyone's permission to do anything :) > (09:34:29 PM) djf_jeff: good, will do tomorrow > (09:34:40 PM) StabbyMc: is maxamillion defeated on pens? > (09:35:02 PM) inode0: we want you to do things you enjoy, if they > aren't being done just grab hold of them and start doing them > (09:35:37 PM) leitz: I have the same philospohy in marriage... > (09:36:01 PM) ***inode0 reminds leitz this meeting is logged forever > (09:36:11 PM) ninjazjb_: lol > (09:36:13 PM) dthomasdigital: lol > (09:36:27 PM) inode0: and can be used in divorce proceedings > (09:37:26 PM) ***leitz is too old and slow to catch anyone execpt the > one he already caught... > (09:37:30 PM) inode0: are there any other open floor items for tonight? > (09:38:58 PM) inode0: ok, let's wrap this meeting then and carry on in > #fedora-ambassadors > (09:39:20 PM) inode0: thank you all for coming as always, next meeting > on the 3rd Tuesday in May > (09:39:22 PM) inode0: 5 > (09:39:23 PM) inode0: 4 > (09:39:25 PM) inode0: 3 > (09:39:27 PM) inode0: 2 > (09:39:29 PM) inode0: 1 > (09:39:38 PM) inode0: EOM > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- David Duncan Austin, TX From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Sun May 10 08:57:37 2009 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 10:57:37 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1830UTC #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20090510105737.24900c4b@mrtomlinux.org> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2009-05-10 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (10 mai.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . 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URL: From rishikesh at fedoraproject.org Sun May 10 13:27:43 2009 From: rishikesh at fedoraproject.org (Rishikesh Sharma) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 18:57:43 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Sendmail setup assistance on Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <4A072360.7060701@electromech.info> References: <7cb778c60905100258x3881ecf7s7a8581bda6fbf8da@mail.gmail.com> <4A072360.7060701@electromech.info> Message-ID: <7cb778c60905100627n57dbc4ceu5c40cef014235d12@mail.gmail.com> thank you so much. On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Nilesh J. Vaghela < electromech at electromech.info> wrote: > Hi, > > I have documented it at > > http://vglug.googlegroups.com/web/completesendmaildoctest13-1.sxw?gda=5aChE1MAAAAqKsl3L2RfLYQpLxwOTWFi6ZJ9SgZXAiRXy-D0Z3Y1pDVZ6e-ALKVXrodBA21b7vNm1WULJYrCdpyEmnp2osreUwk_6Qi3BU8HCN0q6OYwMyD1YEYJH1dq2TgOyH-BMGo > You can create any sendmail server with that documents. > > Let me know if there will be any problem. > > Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > > Hi Everybody, > > I want to setup sendmail as internet mail server to receive and send emails > with the domain csmanipur.com. I have already created MX record on my dns > server. I am currently able to send recieve emails locally with sendmail. > > I need a working configuration or need help on how to configure sendmail to > able to send and recieve emails from internet with my domain csmanipur.com > > > > Thanks, > > Rishikesh Sharma > Fedora Ambassador. > > ------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing listFedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.comhttps://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > Nilesh Vaghela > ElectroMech > Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner > 16, Sun Rise complex, > Nr. Mansi cross Road, > Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad > 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda.www.electromech.info > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abhradipmukherjee at gmail.com Sun May 10 15:25:23 2009 From: abhradipmukherjee at gmail.com (Abhradip Mukherjee) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:55:23 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Certificate Projects Message-ID: This is Abhradip Mukherjee. Here in India (West Bengal) we have a strong base. There are several students ready to jump into development fields. They want to contribute and work for fedoraproject and GNU/Linux development at large. I am thinking of starting a fedora project to start certification projects for such students. That will boost the movement a lot and will encourage potential students to not only use free software but also develop it. I hope our FAM Steering Committee will allow me to proceed keeping in mind the history of fedoraproject's contribution to free software movement. And I also expect to not to receive something as short as "No you can't", instead I hope to get a detailed explanation (if denied) and a chance to debate. 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That will boost the movement a lot and will > encourage potential students to not only use free software but also develop > it. > > I hope our FAM Steering Committee will allow me to proceed keeping in mind > the history of fedoraproject's contribution to free software movement. And I > also expect to not to receive something as short as "No you can't", instead > I hope to get a detailed explanation (if denied) and a chance to debate. > > Also looking for comments by my fellow ambassadors. Can you explain a little bit what you mean by certification projects? John From abhradipmukherjee at gmail.com Sun May 10 19:13:07 2009 From: abhradipmukherjee at gmail.com (Abhradip Mukherjee) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 00:43:07 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Certification Projects Message-ID: >Can you explain a little bit what you mean by certification projects? > >John Thanks John for replying. Basically the idea is to let the students think of newer ways they can contribute to fedoraproject. We have a set of teachers here to mentor such students. If one idea is selected (I will post the chosen ideas on the mailing list for you to comment on ), we will start a project on that idea with a set of students and a mentor. Upon successful completion of the project they will be certified by fedoraproject. This is what I intend to do. Regards, -ADM Fedora Ambassador WB, India -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From inode0 at gmail.com Sun May 10 19:45:07 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 14:45:07 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Certification Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Abhradip Mukherjee wrote: >>Can you explain a little bit what you mean by certification projects? >> >>John > > Thanks John for replying. Basically the idea is to let the students think of > newer ways they can contribute to fedoraproject. We have a set of teachers > here to mentor such students. If one idea is selected (I will post the > chosen ideas on the mailing list for you to comment on ), we will start a > project on that idea with a set of students and a mentor. Upon successful > completion of the project they will be certified by fedoraproject. This is > what I intend to do. I'm still a little confused. You don't really need anyone's permission to create a new project and work on it. I really still have no idea what you are trying to convey with "certified by fedoraproject." Do you want the students certified? Do you want the project certified? In either case, what does the certification imply? John From david at gnsa.us Sun May 10 20:11:03 2009 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 16:11:03 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Certification Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Abhradip Mukherjee wrote: >>Can you explain a little bit what you mean by certification projects? >> >>John > > Thanks John for replying. Basically the idea is to let the students think of > newer ways they can contribute to fedoraproject. We have a set of teachers > here to mentor such students. If one idea is selected (I will post the > chosen ideas on the mailing list for you to comment on ), we will start a > project on that idea with a set of students and a mentor. Upon successful > completion of the project they will be certified by fedoraproject. This is > what I intend to do. I'd really recommend that you talk to Chris Tyler who teaches at Seneca College. They do work with Mozilla and Fedora, and Chris effectively leads Teaching Open Source. You'd likely get more assistance from those who are already walking down the road you wish to trod. http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/TeachingOpenSource_Mailing_List The long and short of it is that you really need the instructors to be involved and grok both F/LOSS and Fedora if you want to be successful in using Fedora projects for coursework. Of course the benefit to the students is huge. From irashadul at gmail.com Sun May 10 20:15:37 2009 From: irashadul at gmail.com (Rashadul Islam) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 13:15:37 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Certification Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17fa59580905101315h639a85e3y23649357b3c7bb2e@mail.gmail.com> It should be very very specific... But the idea is great to attract mentors, new contributors and fedora marketing & its community. Please explain the details about the project. Rashadul GPG Key: 5557BFAC On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 12:45 PM, inode0 wrote: > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Abhradip Mukherjee > wrote: > >>Can you explain a little bit what you mean by certification projects? > >> > >>John > > > > Thanks John for replying. Basically the idea is to let the students think > of > > newer ways they can contribute to fedoraproject. We have a set of > teachers > > here to mentor such students. If one idea is selected (I will post the > > chosen ideas on the mailing list for you to comment on ), we will start a > > project on that idea with a set of students and a mentor. Upon successful > > completion of the project they will be certified by fedoraproject. This > is > > what I intend to do. > > I'm still a little confused. You don't really need anyone's permission > to create a new project and work on it. I really still have no idea > what you are trying to convey with "certified by fedoraproject." Do > you want the students certified? Do you want the project certified? In > either case, what does the certification imply? > > John > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anyone90 at googlemail.com Sun May 10 20:16:25 2009 From: anyone90 at googlemail.com (Michael Spahn) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 22:16:25 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Certification Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A073619.9070005@gmail.com> inode0 schrieb: > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Abhradip Mukherjee > wrote: > >>> Can you explain a little bit what you mean by certification projects? >>> >>> John >>> >> Thanks John for replying. Basically the idea is to let the students think of >> newer ways they can contribute to fedoraproject. We have a set of teachers >> here to mentor such students. If one idea is selected (I will post the >> chosen ideas on the mailing list for you to comment on ), we will start a >> project on that idea with a set of students and a mentor. Upon successful >> completion of the project they will be certified by fedoraproject. This is >> what I intend to do. >> > > I'm still a little confused. You don't really need anyone's permission > to create a new project and work on it. I really still have no idea > what you are trying to convey with "certified by fedoraproject." Do > you want the students certified? Do you want the project certified? In > either case, what does the certification imply? > > John > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > But what exactly do you mean with certified? Knowledge certification? Or do you mean a certificatet fedora supporter? :) With regards, any0n3 From Alexander at mrtoasted.com Sun May 10 21:52:57 2009 From: Alexander at mrtoasted.com (Alexander) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 23:52:57 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Certification Projects In-Reply-To: <4A073619.9070005@gmail.com> References: <4A073619.9070005@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c73ddb90905101452w4e4049c6p5874132ccf852e97@mail.gmail.com> You could either opt for general linux certifications with local LPIC centers. If your goal is to involve Red Hat certifications you cannot use any Fedora branding iirc. On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Michael Spahn wrote: > inode0 schrieb: > > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Abhradip Mukherjee > > wrote: > > > >>> Can you explain a little bit what you mean by certification projects? > >>> > >>> John > >>> > >> Thanks John for replying. Basically the idea is to let the students > think of > >> newer ways they can contribute to fedoraproject. We have a set of > teachers > >> here to mentor such students. If one idea is selected (I will post the > >> chosen ideas on the mailing list for you to comment on ), we will start > a > >> project on that idea with a set of students and a mentor. Upon > successful > >> completion of the project they will be certified by fedoraproject. This > is > >> what I intend to do. > >> > > > > I'm still a little confused. You don't really need anyone's permission > > to create a new project and work on it. I really still have no idea > > what you are trying to convey with "certified by fedoraproject." Do > > you want the students certified? Do you want the project certified? In > > either case, what does the certification imply? > > > > John > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > But what exactly do you mean with certified? > Knowledge certification? > Or do you mean a certificatet fedora supporter? :) > With regards, > any0n3 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shodo at yahoo.com Sun May 10 23:11:05 2009 From: shodo at yahoo.com (B.C.Eduard) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 16:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Certification Projects In-Reply-To: <9c73ddb90905101452w4e4049c6p5874132ccf852e97@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <846071.17849.qm@web52209.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Good answers!!! Jaaaa BEST REGARDS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rishikesh at fedoraproject.org Mon May 11 00:21:52 2009 From: rishikesh at fedoraproject.org (Rishikesh Sharma) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 05:51:52 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [fedora-india] Sendmail setup assistance on Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: References: <7cb778c60905100258x3881ecf7s7a8581bda6fbf8da@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7cb778c60905101721ya8f6012sd93f5aeb72d8d0e4@mail.gmail.com> Yes, I have tried with the how to's available on internet but i have got error message when i tried to send email from gmail to my mail server "The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 " When i tried to send email to gmail from my mail server account it got error as "deffered, no route to host." Regards, Rishikesh Sharma On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Ritesh Sinha wrote: > Rishikesh, > > Have you tried any of the howtos available on the internet? You can > find some good tips here > > http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/sendmail_smtp_auth_tls/ > > You might also consider postfix which is slightly easier to setup than > sendmail. > > A guide for that can be found here > http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/sendmail_smtp_auth_tls/ > > > Regards, > Ritesh > > > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Rishikesh Sharma > wrote: > > Hi Everybody, > > > > I want to setup sendmail as internet mail server to receive and send > emails > > with the domain csmanipur.com. I have already created MX record on my > dns > > server. I am currently able to send recieve emails locally with sendmail. > > > > I need a working configuration or need help on how to configure sendmail > to > > able to send and recieve emails from internet with my domain > csmanipur.com > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rishikesh Sharma > > Fedora Ambassador. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-india mailing list > > Fedora-india at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-india mailing list > Fedora-india at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From electromech at electromech.info Mon May 11 06:45:31 2009 From: electromech at electromech.info (Nilesh J. Vaghela) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 12:15:31 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [fedora-india] Sendmail setup assistance on Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <7cb778c60905101721ya8f6012sd93f5aeb72d8d0e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <7cb778c60905100258x3881ecf7s7a8581bda6fbf8da@mail.gmail.com> <7cb778c60905101721ya8f6012sd93f5aeb72d8d0e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A07C98B.7030400@electromech.info> Hi, When you send or receive the mail check tail -f /var/log/maillog and paste the error so might can help you. Rishikesh Sharma wrote: > Yes, I have tried with the how to's available on internet but i have > got error message when i tried to send email from gmail to my mail > server "The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 " > > When i tried to send email to gmail from my mail server account it got > error as "deffered, no route to host." > If you have done proper smtp_auth then mail should be sent. Still can you check dig -t mx yourdomain.com ? As you are getting no route to host ? Check your firewall settings as well it should allow 25 and 110 port. Your mx record can not be found. Is your DNS is registered DNS ? Otherwise you need to get DNS entry to some register DNS server. It is not enough that your server have MX entry, How other people will find your mx ? [root at station253 Desktop]# dig -t mx csmanipur.com ; <<>> DiG 9.5.1b2-RedHat-9.5.1-0.8.b2.fc10 <<>> -t mx csmanipur.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached /IT should be shown like below/ [root at station253 Desktop]# dig -t mx electromech.info ; <<>> DiG 9.5.1b2-RedHat-9.5.1-0.8.b2.fc10 <<>> -t mx electromech.info ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 29638 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;electromech.info. IN MX ;; ANSWER SECTION: electromech.info. 14400 IN MX 0 aspmx.l.google.com. ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: electromech.info. 86399 IN NS ns2.dreamhost.com. electromech.info. 86399 IN NS ns1.dreamhost.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: aspmx.l.google.com. 92 IN A 209.85.199.114 ns2.dreamhost.com. 8627 IN A 208.96.10.221 ;; Query time: 663 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1) ;; WHEN: Mon May 11 12:12:40 2009 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 146 [root at station253 Desktop]# Please check and let us know. -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner 16, Sun Rise complex, Nr. Mansi cross Road, Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. www.electromech.info From joseroberto at ieee.org Mon May 11 01:52:47 2009 From: joseroberto at ieee.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Roberto_Colombo_Junior?=) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 22:52:47 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Certificate Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes ... I liked your idea. If I am right, you want they get better with your project. But, could you explain a little better about it? For sample, it's a project that will do what? Or, what do I need? And, what are my goals? These are the questions are very important! I am very happy with your idea! My best regards, and I am wait a answer! Bye bye! 2009/5/10 inode0 > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Abhradip Mukherjee > wrote: > > This is Abhradip Mukherjee. Here in India (West Bengal) we have a strong > > base. There are several students ready to jump into development fields. > They > > want to contribute and work for fedoraproject and GNU/Linux development > at > > large. I am thinking of starting a fedora project to start certification > > projects for such students. That will boost the movement a lot and will > > encourage potential students to not only use free software but also > develop > > it. > > > > I hope our FAM Steering Committee will allow me to proceed keeping in > mind > > the history of fedoraproject's contribution to free software movement. > And I > > also expect to not to receive something as short as "No you can't", > instead > > I hope to get a detailed explanation (if denied) and a chance to debate. > > > > Also looking for comments by my fellow ambassadors. > > Can you explain a little bit what you mean by certification projects? > > John > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Jos? 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They want to contribute and work for fedoraproject and > GNU/Linux development at large. I am thinking of starting a fedora > project to start certification projects for such students. That will > boost the movement a lot and will encourage potential students to not > only use free software but also develop it. > > I hope our FAM Steering Committee will allow me to proceed keeping in > mind the history of fedoraproject's contribution to free software > movement. And I also expect to not to receive something as short as > "No you can't", instead I hope to get a detailed explanation (if > denied) and a chance to debate. > > Also looking for comments by my fellow ambassadors. Sound good. This will motivate more contributors to Fedora project. As this gives something the contributor is proud of and as a substance of their work and participation. -- Best Regards, Jason Singapore Fedora Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jason_Benedict_Low VoIP = sip:jasonbenedict at fedoraproject.org ------ When i work nobody care. When i rest everybody stare. ------ From kushaldas at gmail.com Mon May 11 04:58:23 2009 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:28:23 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Certificate Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Abhradip Mukherjee wrote: > This is Abhradip Mukherjee. Here in India (West Bengal) we have a strong > base. There are several students ready to jump into development fields. They > want to contribute and work for fedoraproject and GNU/Linux development at > large. I am thinking of starting a? fedora project to start certification > projects for such students. That will boost the movement a lot and will > encourage potential students to not only use free software but also develop > it. I don't think certificates are any good to attract students who will/"want to" become contributors. Looking someone's own name in the project's website or in the Author's page gives much more confidence and "feel good" attitude than any certificate. All the developers we know , we know by their work, not by looking into some certificate. I know personally how the students run behind a printed copy of certificate, but bringing the same attitude into FOSS development is not going to help us. Also CCing Fedora India list. Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in From shakthimaan at gmail.com Mon May 11 05:01:06 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 10:31:06 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Certificate Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, --- On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Abhradip Mukherjee wrote: | Here in India (West Bengal) we have a strong | base. There are several students ready to jump into development fields. They | want to contribute and work for fedoraproject and GNU/Linux development at | large. \-- Point noted ... (1) --- | I am thinking of starting a? fedora project to start certification | projects for such students. \-- So, if (1) already exists why do we need certification? The problem with certification is that it is sometimes projected differently that people join in _just_ for the certification, and not that they love Free/Open Source Software, and end up demanding questions like: "I am certified, but, where can I now get a job?" In this process, people fail to understand FOSS development models, iterative learning processes, curiosity and need to experiment, learn, community participation et. al. While this might bring lot of certified people in a short-term, it doesn't help in catering to the individual in the long run. One needs to give the true picture of community participation, Free/Open Source development, than have short *marketing offers*. Just my thoughts, SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Mon May 11 07:00:53 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 12:30:53 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Certificate Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35586fc00905110000m665e5f70j7a0566518abc4fbb@mail.gmail.com> [Caveat: I read through the responses on this thread before writing this mail] On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Abhradip Mukherjee wrote: > This is Abhradip Mukherjee. Here in India (West Bengal) we have a strong > base. There are several students ready to jump into development fields. They > want to contribute and work for fedoraproject and GNU/Linux development at > large. I am thinking of starting a? fedora project to start certification > projects for such students. That will boost the movement a lot and will > encourage potential students to not only use free software but also develop > it. If there are several students about whom you are aware about contributing as a developer, an approach that introduces them step-wise to all the factoids they would need to learn before doing so would be optimal. And, to begin with, they should be at least on fedora-india mailing list so that they can feel free to ask questions smartly. Instead of thinking of starting a project to "certify" the interested participants, it would perhaps be a good idea to look at : And, as always, there is #fedora-india for them to land up and get initial hand-holding/coaching. The way I read your mail, you are talking about two specific points : [1] getting students to contribute and participate [2] assessing the feasibility of obtaining for them a "certificate" which would be accepted and relevant in their academic life. I'd suggest that we focus a bit more on [1] first so that we have good participants. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work Sent from Pune, MH, India From joseroberto at ieee.org Mon May 11 08:23:23 2009 From: joseroberto at ieee.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Roberto_Colombo_Junior?=) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 05:23:23 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Certificate Projects In-Reply-To: <35586fc00905110000m665e5f70j7a0566518abc4fbb@mail.gmail.com> References: <35586fc00905110000m665e5f70j7a0566518abc4fbb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I think it will. Because it's like everybody says: "A act is more precious than one thousand words". 2009/5/11 sankarshan > [Caveat: I read through the responses on this thread before writing this > mail] > > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Abhradip Mukherjee > wrote: > > This is Abhradip Mukherjee. Here in India (West Bengal) we have a strong > > base. There are several students ready to jump into development fields. > They > > want to contribute and work for fedoraproject and GNU/Linux development > at > > large. I am thinking of starting a fedora project to start certification > > projects for such students. That will boost the movement a lot and will > > encourage potential students to not only use free software but also > develop > > it. > > If there are several students about whom you are aware about > contributing as a developer, an approach that introduces them > step-wise to all the factoids they would need to learn before doing so > would be optimal. And, to begin with, they should be at least on > fedora-india mailing list so that they can feel free to ask questions > smartly. Instead of thinking of starting a project to "certify" the > interested participants, it would perhaps be a good idea to look at : > And, as always, > there is #fedora-india for them to land up and get initial > hand-holding/coaching. > > The way I read your mail, you are talking about two specific points : > [1] getting students to contribute and participate [2] assessing the > feasibility of obtaining for them a "certificate" which would be > accepted and relevant in their academic life. I'd suggest that we > focus a bit more on [1] first so that we have good participants. > > > > > -- > http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published > http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science > http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work > > > Sent from Pune, MH, India > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Jos? 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[1] here in Southern Germany, which has 10th anniversary [2] at July 3rd/4th, 2009. And for that event, some technical talks are searched and wanted, maybe also Fedora specific ones. All that will take place in Schwetzingen, which is near to Heidelberg and Mannheim. I'm pretty sure, we've ambassadors in that area, which maybe want to show up and give a technical talk. Details can be found in the links below as well. If you are going to give a talk, please get in touch with Raphael Becker being at Cc: auf this e-mail, he's the president of the board of that NPO. For any questions, don't hesitate to ask, I'll try to help and/or forward the questions to the appropriate people. [1] http://www.uugrn.org/ [2] https://wiki.uugrn.org/UUGRN:10_Jahre_UUGRN_e.V. Greetings, Robert -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Right now I am working on that. Will send a mail to Tyler soon. >The long and short of it is that you really need the instructors to be >involved and grok both F/LOSS and Fedora if you want to be successful >in using Fedora projects for coursework. Of course the benefit to the >students is huge. Thanks again! I am careful about such issues. ? ?>You could either opt for general linux certifications with local LPIC >centers.If your goal is to involve Red Hat certifications you cannot use any Fedora >branding iirc. I am specifically looking to start projects that will contribute to FOSS and Fedora and upon completion of such project contributors will be certified by fedora project as contributors to that particular project. @Jos? Roberto Colombo Junior >Yes ... I liked your idea. Thanks! >For sample, it's a project that will do what? The projects can range from a documentation on how to play popular games on PlayOnLinux, to contribute simple install scripts to http://install.passion4freedom.07x.net to improvising on default installation of Fedora upto anything that is feasible. Basically we will launch a Brainstorm platform to gather ideas >Or, what do I need? I need assurance from Fedora that the works will be acknowledged and each contributor will get an "offline copy of this acknowledgement in form of a certificate". >And, what are my goals? I am interested in bringing more people (atleast from technological colleges) to the development of GNU/Linux. I have often seen students saying things like "why this is like this, can't they make it easier to use". In case of FOSS they can change it but they dont do it. Because of two main reasons. 1) They dont know how to do it. When they try to get into such things, they get afraid by thinking that they have to study it all of their own and there's no one around to help. Why not take some initiatives to encourage and help such students? A brand name like Fedora can do a lot in such cases. 2) Under the immense pressure of their syllabus, they can not take out time to contribute in a project that will neither give them any financial benefit nor will do any benefit to their resume. At the end of the day everyone needs to earn. Free software is a matter of freedom, free as in free speech not free beer. But the message they get from such situations is that there's no profit in developing free software. Which is wrong. If we can not finance them for their work, why not try the second alternative? They think we are trying to "use" them. Why not give them something back (in real)? Creating such a development oriented environment is my goal. >I am very happy with your idea! Thanks a lot for helping me write a to the point reply. >By what I see, he wants a certification, like a square to put on the wall, >is it? Because this way, his students will be motived too much! You understood the idea right. ?>Sound good. This will motivate more contributors to Fedora project. As >this gives something the contributor is proud of and as a substance of >their work and participation. And you understood it the best. >Best Regards, >Jason Wish you lived as my neighbour. @Kushal ?>I don't think certificates are any good to attract students who >will/"want to" become contributors. I beg to differ. We need more contributors and we need more people to educate about the ideologies of FOSS. OSS development model concentrates on collaboration and is not a model that says "You wont get anything in return because it is Free Software". >Looking someone's own name in the project's website or in the Author's page gives much more >confidence and "feel good" attitude than any certificate. Nothing as offline copy to show to the employer at the time of interview. They wont "feel good" then. Also let me inform you about campaigns by non-free software companies. They list their names with photos, pay them wages, invite to seminars and give food, sponsor their events. Which one will make them "feel good" more? I am taking a better approach in terms of ethics. I am bringing them to our movement with projects that gives something in return to them apart from the knowledge. And then make them realize why FOSS is necessary in terms of philosophy and development of computer technology. Isn't it a better approach? >All the developers we know , we know by their work, not by looking into some certificate. True. Even our certifications will not matter to them much after they start regular contribution to FOSS. But to initiate the process, certification can be a magic wind. >I know personally how the students run behind a printed copy of certificate, Thanks for supporting my line above. >but bringing the same attitude into FOSS development is not going to help us. What about RHCT, RHCE, SCJP etc? Aren't they based on FOSS technologies? This time its just that instead of going with an exam I am talking about contributing to a project. This will definitely help us. Also please clarify why do you think it wont help us only if we issue certificates keeping other things like awareness among the programmers intact? We wont take students instantly into the project. At first they have to work with us and after we are sure about his Passion4Freedom (http://groups.google.com/group/tp4f) we will include them in our projects. @ Shakthi Kannan >Here in India (West Bengal) we have a strong >base. There are several students ready to jump into development fields. They >want to contribute and work for fedoraproject and GNU/Linux development at >large. >So, if (that) already exists why do we need certification? Because when they get to know that for doing the development they wont get any money / any certificate, the best brains ( the ones who can easily get money for their work from other offtime jobs) and the competent students (who can easily do a project in some institutions by paying some money and can get a certificate) goes away. The ones who understands the true meaning of FOSS at that moment of time stays with us. But I can guarantee if those other guys have joined us then, someday later they would have also become FOSS followers as through the activities of the movement we would have successfully conveyed the message to them. They can pay for certificates. But wont go for something which is cheap and gives nothing in return except listing on websites. What will they have in hand to show their mother, who might not know anything about websites and therefore does not understand the importance. (She would have been more happy to see her son's face on a not-so-famous local newspaper, simply because then she would have had something to take in hand, go to her neighbor and show off). What will they show to an employer who wont agree to go up and check on the website whether the student sitting in front has a listing on the website or not. He would pick the next guy who has a well known certification in hand. >The problem with certification is that it is sometimes projected >differently that people join in _just_ for the certification, and >In this process, people fail to understand FOSS development models, >iterative learning processes, curiosity and need to experiment, learn, >community participation et. al. and >One needs to give the true picture of community participation, >Free/Open Source development, than have short *marketing offers*. As I mentioned, we wont take anybody in, _just_ for the certification. It will be like if you understand FOSS ideologies well, and if you are willing to learn through projects we will give you an opportunity to work and get certificate of appreciation upon quality contribution. >and not that they love Free/Open Source Software, and end up demanding >questions like: "I am certified, but, where can I now get a job?" Have you ever heard somebody asking the same question to any training institutions who give away random certifications to any guy with a fat wallet? We will issue certifications on FOSS technologies if you are worthy of it, that's it. If you think you want it, come and join us. If you dont think you want it we still ask you to join us. If you dont want to join us, just hear to our appeal at least with care and then decide. If you are determined to not to join us, then "Thank you and doors are always open for you to come back and join us". What's wrong in such an approach? >While this might bring lot of certified people in a short-term, it >doesn't help in catering to the individual in the long run. What will cater to the individual in the long run is the experience of working in a FOSS project and understanding the philosophies of FOSS movement. >Just my thoughts, Thanks for sharing and making me explain in detail. @Sankarshan >Instead of thinking of starting a project to "certify" the interested participants, it would perhaps >be a good idea to look at : < http://kushaldas.in/tmp/summer_training-small.png> And, as >always,there is #fedora-india for them to land up and get initial hand-holding/coaching. Thanks for guiding to such a wonderful initiative by dgplug. But my goal is a bit different. It's not "training for a particular period of time on pre-decided topics". I am looking for a platform to collaborate on projects anywhere anytime for anybody interested in FOSS development. Projects will go on, day after day new new students will come and join. It is not summer training. >The way I read your mail, you are talking about two specific points : >[1] getting students to contribute and participate [2] assessing the >feasibility of obtaining for them a "certificate" which would be >accepted and relevant in their academic life. I'd suggest that we >focus a bit more on [1] first so that we have good participants. I am focused on point[1] as you can perhaps see from my detailed reply. Now it is time for me to concentrate more on point[2] as I want those brains too who might not be much interested in doing a project for obtaining no money/ no certifications.Thank you for replying Sankarshanda. Please help me on this issue and make this thing happen. It is a necessity of the community according to my opinion. With hope still alive, -ADM Fedora Ambassador, WB, India -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Mon May 11 11:54:48 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 13:54:48 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Certification Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 10 May 2009, inode0 wrote: > I'm still a little confused. You don't really need anyone's permission > to create a new project and work on it. I really still have no idea > what you are trying to convey with "certified by fedoraproject." Do > you want the students certified? Do you want the project certified? In > either case, what does the certification imply? Furthermore, I think that the original idea isn't necessarily something for "Fedora Ambassadors" but rather something that is part of the greater "Fedora Project". If I were you, I would: (1) Figure out in much greater detail what you are proposing. (2) Figure out whether it is something just for India, or something that you think could be global. (3) If it is just for India, take it to Fedora India's mailing list. If it is something that could be useful globally, take it to fedora-advisory-board mailing list. --Max From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Mon May 11 12:02:10 2009 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:02:10 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Replies to Certification Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1242043330.3658.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Am Montag, den 11.05.2009, 17:17 +0530 schrieb Abhradip Mukherjee: > @John and @any0n3 > > >I really still have no idea what you are trying to convey with > "certified by fedoraproject." Do > >you want the students certified? Do you want the project certified? > In either case, what does the >certification imply? > I want to get the contributors certified on a paper which they can > show to their potential employers and say that "look, I have done > project with these guys and they certified me as a good contributor to > their project". Do you really think this is necessary or that Fedora would benefit from such people? IMO we need contributors who are convinced of what they do and not people, who are doing it only for getting a paper. Regards, Christoph P.S.: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines From shakthimaan at gmail.com Mon May 11 12:23:35 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:53:35 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Replies to Certification Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, --- On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Abhradip Mukherjee wrote: | Because when they get to know that for doing the development they wont get | any money / any certificate, \-- So, that is what they want, not knowledge, or freedom of source code? --- | the best brains ( the ones who can easily get | money for their work from other offtime jobs) and the competent ?students | (who can easily do a project in some institutions by paying some money and | can get a certificate) goes away. \-- But, they are only cheating themselves, by paying money and getting a certificate. They still will be incompetent at work, and will sit in the bench just getting a salary, and will get laid off when an economic crunch happens. Yes, it did happen. --- | The ones who understands the true meaning | of FOSS at that moment of time stays with us. \-- ... irrespective of money, job, certificate. --- | But I can guarantee?if those | other guys have joined us then, someday later they would have also become | FOSS followers as through the activities of the?movement we would have | successfully conveyed the message to them. \-- Not quite true. Those who want to work on FOSS, will continue to work on FOSS, irrespective of whether they get money, job, or certifcate or what not, because they do it for a reason that they love working with passion, and not in need of what you have mentioned. --- | But wont go for something which is cheap and gives nothing in return except | listing on websites. \-- There is more to it: * Building ones' network (social). * Knowledge. * Recognition. ... and these lead to jobs automatically. --- | What will they have in hand to show their mother, who | might not know anything about websites and therefore does not understand the | importance. (She would have been more happy to see her son's face on a | not-so-famous local newspaper, simply because then she would have had | something to take in hand, go to her neighbor and show off). \-- You can show photos taken from participation in installfest, hackfest events. Most students own cameras, and phones with digital cameras. You can also take a printout of a website. --- | What will they | show to an employer who wont agree to go up and check on the website whether | the student sitting in front has a listing on the website or not. He would | pick the next guy who has a well known certification in hand. \-- Too generic a statement. There are big MNCs as well as FOSS-based startups in India who hire people. Check http://fossjobs.wordpress.com for a start. --- | As I mentioned, we wont take anybody in, _just_ for the certification. \-- Sorry mate, you can't make or guarantee that judgement :) --- | It | will be like if you understand FOSS ideologies well, and if you are willing | to learn through projects we will give you an opportunity to work and get | certificate of appreciation upon quality contribution. \-- ... and such people, IMO, will do things irrespective of whether you give the certificate or not. --- | "I am certified, but, where can I now get a job?" | | Have you ever heard somebody asking the same question to any training institutions who give away random certifications to any | guy with a fat wallet? \-- Such people are being cheated. People who get certificates with a fat wallet are cheating themselves too. Just because others are committing suicide, doesn't mean we should too. There are no shortcuts in life. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Mon May 11 13:28:29 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 18:58:29 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Replies to Certification Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1242048509.3331.35.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 17:53 +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > Hi, > > --- On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Abhradip Mukherjee > wrote: > | Because when they get to know that for doing the development they wont get > | any money / any certificate, > \-- > > So, that is what they want, not knowledge, or freedom of source code? > > --- > | the best brains ( the ones who can easily get > | money for their work from other offtime jobs) and the competent students > | (who can easily do a project in some institutions by paying some money and > | can get a certificate) goes away. > \-- > > But, they are only cheating themselves, by paying money and getting a > certificate. They still will be incompetent at work, and will sit in > the bench just getting a salary, and will get laid off when an > economic crunch happens. Yes, it did happen. > > --- > | The ones who understands the true meaning > | of FOSS at that moment of time stays with us. > \-- > > ... irrespective of money, job, certificate. > > --- > | But I can guarantee if those > | other guys have joined us then, someday later they would have also become > | FOSS followers as through the activities of the movement we would have > | successfully conveyed the message to them. > \-- > > Not quite true. Those who want to work on FOSS, will continue to work > on FOSS, irrespective of whether they get money, job, or certifcate or > what not, because they do it for a reason that they love working with > passion, and not in need of what you have mentioned. > > --- > | But wont go for something which is cheap and gives nothing in return except > | listing on websites. > \-- > > There is more to it: > * Building ones' network (social). > * Knowledge. > * Recognition. > ... and these lead to jobs automatically. > > --- > | What will they have in hand to show their mother, who > | might not know anything about websites and therefore does not understand the > | importance. (She would have been more happy to see her son's face on a > | not-so-famous local newspaper, simply because then she would have had > | something to take in hand, go to her neighbor and show off). > \-- > > You can show photos taken from participation in installfest, hackfest > events. Most students own cameras, and phones with digital cameras. > > You can also take a printout of a website. > > --- > | What will they > | show to an employer who wont agree to go up and check on the website whether > | the student sitting in front has a listing on the website or not. He would > | pick the next guy who has a well known certification in hand. > \-- > > Too generic a statement. There are big MNCs as well as FOSS-based > startups in India who hire people. Check http://fossjobs.wordpress.com > for a start. > > --- > | As I mentioned, we wont take anybody in, _just_ for the certification. > \-- > > Sorry mate, you can't make or guarantee that judgement :) > > --- > | It > | will be like if you understand FOSS ideologies well, and if you are willing > | to learn through projects we will give you an opportunity to work and get > | certificate of appreciation upon quality contribution. > \-- > > ... and such people, IMO, will do things irrespective of whether you > give the certificate or not. > > --- > | "I am certified, but, where can I now get a job?" > | > | Have you ever heard somebody asking the same question to any > training institutions who give away random certifications to any > | guy with a fat wallet? > \-- > > Such people are being cheated. People who get certificates with a fat > wallet are cheating themselves too. Just because others are committing > suicide, doesn't mean we should too. > > There are no shortcuts in life. > > SK > hi, I agree with the view that Shakti has taken. I also understand what Abhradip is trying to do, since I'm a college student myself and yes, unfortunately, the certificate rush here is HUGE. From what I've seen here, the best brains (the ones who make all the difference) don't give certificates too much priority. The ones who work/join up at places to get a certificate in return don't really do much. They join one workshop after another throughout the year and collect certificates, with NO working knowledge at all on any of what they've learnt while we sit and code/learn/contribute etc... >From the point of view of "placements", I think it's way..WAAAY more impressive to have your fedoraproject contributions in front of the interviewer than a certificate saying "He learnt blah blah from us for a month." YOu choose : On one had you have "Ambassador/packager/document writer/.... at the fedora project" , on the other "this is to certify that so and so had participated in a so and so workshop." It's important to remember that a certificate does NOT certify that you know something.. It certifies you were present while it was being taught.. :) regards, Ankur From smcbrien at gmail.com Mon May 11 13:45:36 2009 From: smcbrien at gmail.com (scott mcbrien) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 09:45:36 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Replies to Certification Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6c56c38a0905110645x2c0caef2t93b55b36ffa623a1@mail.gmail.com> Abhradip, Thank you for the additional information about what you're trying to accomplish, but I think you'll run into some problems trying to accomplish it. (1) Certifications are useful to employers because they provide a credential from a vendor or organization which indicates that a certificate holder has the knowledge or skills for a product or job role. If one can get a Fedora Contributor Certificate for such varied things as writing documentation or holding Fedora Events, or writing code on OSS projects, etc. What is the credential that having the certificate passes to the perspective employer? How does an employer who is trying to hire a python developer know that this CV that has a Fedora certificate has worked on python with Fedora or written some articles on the wiki? It sounds like what you're creating isn't a certificate, defined by ISO-17024, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_17024 (2) Certifications don't get jobs. If you have hiring managers hiring employees without an interview, or technical evaluation, but soley on their list of certifications, then you haven't experienced the joy of hiring a "paper" . Someone who holds a credential, but who has no knowledge about the subject that the certificate certifies. One of the more prolific examples is the paper MCSE, a candidate who memorizes a bunch of answers to the Microsoft multiple choice tests, but who has never actually administered a machine. Instead of a certification, one could list "Fedora Project Contributor" on their CV and be prepared to answer questions, or volunteer information during the interview. As someone who has worked as a hiring manager, I'm far more impressed by being able to discuss someone's programming project, in detail, and the interviewee's experience in that project than the fact that they have a Net+ certification. As an added bonus, after working on a project, the candidate has EXPERIENCE in the field that they are now interviewing, which is by far more valuable than a certificate. (3) Administration. Who is going to create and maintain these certificates? How will they be logged, queried, and managed? How can an employer verify that this candidate has earned a certificate? How is "participation" in the Fedora Project measured, who makes the determination that the participation is or is not worthy of a certificate? Or, is this certificate just something that people with a fas account can create, in which case the certification proves that someone is technically knowledgeable about the Fedora Project enough to create a fas account... I think that ultimately you're wanting to create a document that identifies your students as Fedora Project Members, not a certificate. A certificate would have such broad scope that it would end up being meaningless and just another line item on a CV, which perspective employers would ignore. -Scott On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Abhradip Mukherjee < abhradipmukherjee at gmail.com> wrote: > @John and @any0n3 > > >I really still have no idea what you are trying to convey with "certified > by fedoraproject." Do > >you want the students certified? Do you want the project certified? In > either case, what does the >certification imply? > I want to get the contributors certified on a paper which they can show to > their potential employers and say that "look, I have done project with these > guys and they certified me as a good contributor to their project". > > @David > > >I'd really recommend that you talk to Chris Tyler who teaches at > > >Seneca College. > > >http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/TeachingOpenSource_Mailing_List > > Thanks a lot for such a nice constructive reply. Right now I am working on > that. Will send a mail to Tyler soon. > > >The long and short of it is that you really need the instructors to be > > >involved and grok both F/LOSS and Fedora if you want to be successful > > >in using Fedora projects for coursework. Of course the benefit to the > > >students is huge. > > Thanks again! I am careful about such issues. > > ? > > ?>You could either opt for general linux certifications with local LPIC > >centers.If your goal is to involve Red Hat certifications you cannot use > any Fedora > >branding iirc. > > I am specifically looking to start projects that will contribute to FOSS > and Fedora and upon completion of such project contributors will be > certified by fedora project as contributors to that particular project. > > @Jos? Roberto Colombo Junior > > >Yes ... I liked your idea. > > Thanks! > > >For sample, it's a project that will do what? > > The projects can range from a documentation on how to play popular games on > PlayOnLinux, to contribute simple install scripts to > http://install.passion4freedom.07x.net to improvising on default > installation of Fedora upto anything that is feasible. Basically we will > launch a Brainstorm platform to gather ideas > > >Or, what do I need? > > I need assurance from Fedora that the works will be acknowledged and each > contributor will get an "offline copy of this acknowledgement in form of a > certificate". > > >And, what are my goals? > > I am interested in bringing more people (atleast from technological > colleges) to the development of GNU/Linux. I have often seen students saying > things like "why this is like this, can't they make it easier to use". In > case of FOSS they can change it but they dont do it. Because of two main > reasons. > > 1) They dont know how to do it. When they try to get into such things, they > get afraid by thinking that they have to study it all of their own and > there's no one around to help. Why not take some initiatives to encourage > and help such students? A brand name like Fedora can do a lot in such cases. > > 2) Under the immense pressure of their syllabus, they can not take out time > to contribute in a project that will neither give them any financial benefit > nor will do any benefit to their resume. At the end of the day everyone > needs to earn. Free software is a matter of freedom, free as in free speech > not free beer. But the message they get from such situations is that there's > no profit in developing free software. Which is wrong. If we can not finance > them for their work, why not try the second alternative? They think we are > trying to "use" them. Why not give them something back (in real)? > > Creating such a development oriented environment is my goal. > > >I am very happy with your idea! > > Thanks a lot for helping me write a to the point reply. > > >By what I see, he wants a certification, like a square to put on the wall, > > >is it? Because this way, his students will be motived too much! > > You understood the idea right. > > ?>Sound good. This will motivate more contributors to Fedora project. As > >this gives something the contributor is proud of and as a substance of > >their work and participation. > And you understood it the best. > > > >Best Regards, > >Jason > > Wish you lived as my neighbour. > > @Kushal > > ?>I don't think certificates are any good to attract students who > >will/"want to" become contributors. > > I beg to differ. We need more contributors and we need more people to > educate about the ideologies of FOSS. OSS development model concentrates on > collaboration and is not a model that says "You wont get anything in return > because it is Free Software". > > >Looking someone's own name in the project's website or in the Author's > page gives much more >confidence and "feel good" attitude than any > certificate. > > Nothing as offline copy to show to the employer at the time of interview. > They wont "feel good" then. Also let me inform you about campaigns by > non-free software companies. They list their names with photos, pay them > wages, invite to seminars and give food, sponsor their events. Which one > will make them "feel good" more? I am taking a better approach in terms of > ethics. I am bringing them to our movement with projects that gives > something in return to them apart from the knowledge. And then make them > realize why FOSS is necessary in terms of philosophy and development of > computer technology. Isn't it a better approach? > > >All the developers we know , we know by their work, not by looking into > some certificate. > > True. Even our certifications will not matter to them much after they start > regular contribution to FOSS. But to initiate the process, certification can > be a magic wind. > > > >I know personally how the students run behind a printed copy > of certificate, > > Thanks for supporting my line above. > > >but bringing the same attitude into FOSS development is not going to help > us. > What about RHCT, RHCE, SCJP etc? Aren't they based on FOSS technologies? > This time its just that instead of going with an exam I am talking about > contributing to a project. This will definitely help us. Also please clarify > why do you think it wont help us only if we issue certificates keeping other > things like awareness among the programmers intact? We wont take students > instantly into the project. At first they have to work with us and after we > are sure about his Passion4Freedom (http://groups.google.com/group/tp4f) > we will include them in our projects. > > @ Shakthi Kannan > > >Here in India (West Bengal) we have a strong > >base. There are several students ready to jump into development fields. > They > >want to contribute and work for fedoraproject and GNU/Linux development at > >large. > >So, if (that) already exists why do we need certification? > Because when they get to know that for doing the development they wont get > any money / any certificate, the best brains ( the ones who can easily get > money for their work from other offtime jobs) and the competent students > (who can easily do a project in some institutions by paying some money and > can get a certificate) goes away. The ones who understands the true meaning > of FOSS at that moment of time stays with us. But I can guarantee if those > other guys have joined us then, someday later they would have also become > FOSS followers as through the activities of the movement we would have > successfully conveyed the message to them. They can pay for certificates. > But wont go for something which is cheap and gives nothing in return except > listing on websites. What will they have in hand to show their mother, who > might not know anything about websites and therefore does not understand the > importance. (She would have been more happy to see her son's face on a > not-so-famous local newspaper, simply because then she would have had > something to take in hand, go to her neighbor and show off). What will they > show to an employer who wont agree to go up and check on the website whether > the student sitting in front has a listing on the website or not. He would > pick the next guy who has a well known certification in hand. > > > >The problem with certification is that it is sometimes projected > >differently that people join in _just_ for the certification, > > and > >In this process, people fail to understand FOSS development models, > > >iterative learning processes, curiosity and need to experiment, learn, > >community participation et. al. > > and > > >One needs to give the true picture of community participation, > >Free/Open Source development, than have short *marketing offers*. > > As I mentioned, we wont take anybody in, _just_ for the certification. It > will be like if you understand FOSS ideologies well, and if you are willing > to learn through projects we will give you an opportunity to work and get > certificate of appreciation upon quality contribution. > > >and not that they love Free/Open Source Software, and end up demanding > >questions like: "I am certified, but, where can I now get a job?" > Have you ever heard somebody asking the same question to any training > institutions who give away random certifications to any guy with a fat > wallet? > > We will issue certifications on FOSS technologies if you are worthy of it, > that's it. If you think you want it, come and join us. If you dont think you > want it we still ask you to join us. If you dont want to join us, just hear > to our appeal at least with care and then decide. If you are determined to > not to join us, then "Thank you and doors are always open for you to come > back and join us". What's wrong in such an approach? > > >While this might bring lot of certified people in a short-term, it > >doesn't help in catering to the individual in the long run. > What will cater to the individual in the long run is the experience of > working in a FOSS project and understanding the philosophies of FOSS > movement. > > >Just my thoughts, > Thanks for sharing and making me explain in detail. > > @Sankarshan > > >Instead of thinking of starting a project to "certify" the interested > participants, it would perhaps >be a good idea to look at : < > http://kushaldas.in/tmp/summer_training-small.png> And, as >always,there > is #fedora-india for them to land up and get initial hand-holding/coaching. > > Thanks for guiding to such a wonderful initiative by dgplug. But my goal is > a bit different. It's not "training for a particular period of time on > pre-decided topics". I am looking for a platform to collaborate on projects > anywhere anytime for anybody interested in FOSS development. Projects will > go on, day after day new new students will come and join. It is not summer > training. > > >The way I read your mail, you are talking about two specific points : > > >[1] getting students to contribute and participate [2] assessing the > > >feasibility of obtaining for them a "certificate" which would be > > >accepted and relevant in their academic life. I'd suggest that we > > >focus a bit more on [1] first so that we have good participants. > > I am focused on point[1] as you can perhaps see from my detailed reply. Now > it is time for me to concentrate more on point[2] as I want those brains too > who might not be much interested in doing a project for obtaining no money/ > no certifications.Thank you for replying Sankarshanda. > > Please help me on this issue and make this thing happen. It is a necessity > of the community according to my opinion. > > With hope still alive, > > -ADM > > Fedora Ambassador, WB, India > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tymensk at yahoo.com Mon May 11 14:38:10 2009 From: tymensk at yahoo.com (Samuel Teyemensah) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 07:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora - Africa In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <492309.8780.qm@web55601.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Hi everyone, it is a good thing that our brothers in latin america want to help us. i am Teyemensah Samuel Kubi, an ambassador in Ghana, West Africa. Eventhough I may not be very active on the internet, I have been working with about ten schools in my area who are willing to use fedora in the ICT labs provided we can give technical support (training on usage. I have also successfully organised three local events between December 2008 and now. the good news is that one of the schools have allowed us to use their internet connection to download the fedora ISOs which we reproduce and distribute among the students of the schools and interested people in the communites. I would like Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira to tell me when we can submit a website for hosting on their server. We have already started planning a website for our fedora community in Ghana. thanks. --- On Sat, 5/9/09, Hacataka Comodo wrote: From: Hacataka Comodo Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora - Africa To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 8:20 AM fedorianos I feel very good idea, we are all one idea and invest more in hosting fedorianos. 2009/5/9 Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira : > Edwin Ringo escreveu: >> Hi every body! Im Ringo from Tanzania, Africa. I will be in this event >> for represent fedora with you. thanks >> > > Hello Guys. > > I would like to help the brothers from "Mama Africa" to spread Fedora > and to organize Fedora Communities! > > We have a dedicated server for Latam. We can host Africans sites and > communities! > > If you need some help with infra, please, keep me in touch! > > Best Regards! > > -- > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ > Fedora Community Manager - Latin America > Red Hat Community and Academy Relations > http://www.proyectofedora.org > http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula > http://www.rodrigopadula.com > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- HACATAKA http://bitacorahelpdesk.blogspot.com/ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hacataka -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Eventhough I may not be very active on the internet, I have been > working with about ten schools in my area who are willing to use fedora > in the ICT labs provided we can give technical support (training on > usage. I have also successfully organised three local events between > December 2008 and now. the good news is that one of the schools have > allowed us to use their internet connection to download the fedora ISOs > which we reproduce and distribute among the students of the schools and > interested people in the communites. > > I would like Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira to tell me when we can submit a > website for hosting on their server. We have already started planning a > website for our fedora community in Ghana. > thanks. > > > --- On *Sat, 5/9/09, Hacataka Comodo //* wrote: > > From: Hacataka Comodo > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora - Africa > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 8:20 AM > > fedorianos I feel very good idea, we are all one idea and invest more > in hosting fedorianos. > > 2009/5/9 Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira : > > Edwin Ringo escreveu: > >> Hi every body! Im Ringo from Tanzania, Africa. I will be in this event > >> for represent fedora with you. thanks > >> > > > > Hello Guys. > > > > I would like to help the brothers from "Mama Africa" to spread > Fedora > > and to organize Fedora Communities! > > > > We have a dedicated server for > Latam. We can host Africans sites and > > communities! > > > > If you need some help with infra, please, keep me in touch! > > > > Best Regards! > > > > -- > > > > Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > > M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ > > Fedora Community Manager - Latin America > > Red Hat Community and Academy Relations > > http://www.proyectofedora.org > > http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula > > http://www.rodrigopadula.com > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > HACATAKA > http://bitacorahelpdesk.blogspot.com/ > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hacataka > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing > list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From thecyberxp at gmail.com Mon May 11 15:47:23 2009 From: thecyberxp at gmail.com (Wael Ammar) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 16:47:23 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Ambassador] How can I protect my user wiki page ? Message-ID: <11204d710905110847r2cefd669jcb44707e49e8ce7f@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, Someone tried to change my user wiki page on the Fedora Project page by adding some false and inappropriate information, so I need to know how can I prevent this? Do I have to protect my page? Thanks. -- Wael Ammar (TheCyberXP) Tunisian Fedora Ambassador Secr?taire G?n?ral Club FreeWays http://www.wael-ammar.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Mon May 11 15:53:30 2009 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:53:30 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Ambassador] How can I protect my user wiki page ? In-Reply-To: <11204d710905110847r2cefd669jcb44707e49e8ce7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <11204d710905110847r2cefd669jcb44707e49e8ce7f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d319b780905110853h2f60f3dalf9d2a691039e84d8@mail.gmail.com> > Someone tried to change my user wiki page on the Fedora Project page by > adding some false and inappropriate information, so I need to know how can I > prevent this? Do I have to protect my page? Only registered users are allowed to modify wiki pages (correct me if Im wrong). The particular edit you seem to be referring to is: http://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AThecyber&diff=100993&oldid=87343 This was made by a known user: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Akrem001 Not sure if you can protect your page (or if that's even desired) but surely complaining about this user to the appropriate persons would be great. Who are you supposed to contact in such a case ? I have no idea :) I'd suggest you to try the fedora-wiki mailing list... Regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Mon May 11 15:57:34 2009 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:57:34 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Ambassador] How can I protect my user wiki page ? In-Reply-To: <11204d710905110847r2cefd669jcb44707e49e8ce7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <11204d710905110847r2cefd669jcb44707e49e8ce7f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1242057454.3658.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Am Montag, den 11.05.2009, 16:47 +0100 schrieb Wael Ammar: > Hi all, > > Someone tried to change my user wiki page on the Fedora Project page > by adding some false and inappropriate information, so I need to know > how can I prevent this? Do I have to protect my page? The user pages are only editable by people who have a FAS account, read by Fedora contributors. I think you should first of all contact that person and ask him, why he edited your page. If it was a case of vandalism, the person needs to be removed from FAS. > Thanks. Regards, Christoph From thecyberxp at gmail.com Mon May 11 16:01:48 2009 From: thecyberxp at gmail.com (Wael Ammar) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:01:48 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Ambassador] How can I protect my user wiki page ? In-Reply-To: <1242057454.3658.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <11204d710905110847r2cefd669jcb44707e49e8ce7f@mail.gmail.com> <1242057454.3658.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <11204d710905110901r5893690dge49e14ed7b18699b@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Christoph Wickert < christoph.wickert at googlemail.com> wrote: > Am Montag, den 11.05.2009, 16:47 +0100 schrieb Wael Ammar: > > Hi all, > > > > Someone tried to change my user wiki page on the Fedora Project page > > by adding some false and inappropriate information, so I need to know > > how can I prevent this? Do I have to protect my page? > > The user pages are only editable by people who have a FAS account, read > by Fedora contributors. I think you should first of all contact that > person and ask him, why he edited your page. > > If it was a case of vandalism, the person needs to be removed from FAS. > Yes I contact him, this is a vandalism, he said he just wanted to make some humor, but I don't like that, this is not responsible. > > > Thanks. > > Regards, > Christoph > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Wael Ammar (TheCyberXP) Tunisian Fedora Ambassador Secr?taire G?n?ral Club FreeWays http://www.wael-ammar.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at gnsa.us Mon May 11 16:06:19 2009 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 12:06:19 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Ambassador] How can I protect my user wiki page ? In-Reply-To: <11204d710905110901r5893690dge49e14ed7b18699b@mail.gmail.com> References: <11204d710905110847r2cefd669jcb44707e49e8ce7f@mail.gmail.com> <1242057454.3658.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <11204d710905110901r5893690dge49e14ed7b18699b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Wael Ammar wrote: > > > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Christoph Wickert > wrote: >> >> Am Montag, den 11.05.2009, 16:47 +0100 schrieb Wael Ammar: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > Someone tried to change my user wiki page on the Fedora Project page >> > by adding some false and inappropriate information, so I need to know >> > how can I prevent this? Do I have to protect my page? >> >> The user pages are only editable by people who have a FAS account, read >> by Fedora contributors. I think you should first of all contact that >> person and ask him, why he edited your page. >> >> If it was a case of vandalism, the person needs to be removed from FAS. > > Yes I contact him, this is a vandalism, he said he just wanted to make some > humor, but I don't like that, this is not responsible. > You should probably be talking to someone in #fedora-admin on IRC or contacting admin at fedorproject.org. From thecyberxp at gmail.com Mon May 11 16:09:56 2009 From: thecyberxp at gmail.com (Wael Ammar) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:09:56 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Ambassador] How can I protect my user wiki page ? In-Reply-To: References: <11204d710905110847r2cefd669jcb44707e49e8ce7f@mail.gmail.com> <1242057454.3658.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <11204d710905110901r5893690dge49e14ed7b18699b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <11204d710905110909n2d824b16j9d51a7f23ac117d3@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:06 PM, David Nalley wrote: > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Wael Ammar wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Christoph Wickert > > wrote: > >> > >> Am Montag, den 11.05.2009, 16:47 +0100 schrieb Wael Ammar: > >> > Hi all, > >> > > >> > Someone tried to change my user wiki page on the Fedora Project page > >> > by adding some false and inappropriate information, so I need to know > >> > how can I prevent this? Do I have to protect my page? > >> > >> The user pages are only editable by people who have a FAS account, read > >> by Fedora contributors. I think you should first of all contact that > >> person and ask him, why he edited your page. > >> > >> If it was a case of vandalism, the person needs to be removed from FAS. > > > > Yes I contact him, this is a vandalism, he said he just wanted to make > some > > humor, but I don't like that, this is not responsible. > > > > You should probably be talking to someone in #fedora-admin on IRC or > contacting admin at fedorproject.org. > Okay, I'll do it right now. thanks > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Wael Ammar (TheCyberXP) Tunisian Fedora Ambassador Secr?taire G?n?ral Club FreeWays http://www.wael-ammar.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From a.mani.cms at gmail.com Mon May 11 17:15:13 2009 From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 22:45:13 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Certificate Projects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <78323d480905111015q1b5e8c11y6715b204aa6173a2@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Abhradip Mukherjee wrote: > This is Abhradip Mukherjee. Here in India (West Bengal) we have a strong > base. There are several students ready to jump into development fields. They > want to contribute and work for fedoraproject and GNU/Linux development at > large. I am thinking of starting a? fedora project to start certification > projects for such students. That will boost the movement a lot and will > encourage potential students to not only use free software but also develop > it. Plenty of FOSS / OSS courses are already being conducted. If you can form a group to teach development then it is a good idea. Participation certificates are always useful. But if it should involve Fedora Project, then you need to consult the advisory board. Certification is a complex matter. Fedora project does not have the infrastructure in place. It will involve quite some effort. Open source projects can definitely develop their own standards and certification standards. Whatever, you need to specify things in detail for discussion and further consideration. What courses? What course contents? What projects? How many instructors? Who? Quality of instructors? Minimum Infrastructure? Evaluation Standards? Evaluation Goals? etc Otherwise the answer is "No you cannot". Best A. Mani -- A. Mani ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://amani.topcities.com From thecyberxp at gmail.com Mon May 11 16:38:47 2009 From: thecyberxp at gmail.com (Wael Ammar) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:38:47 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Ambassador] How can I protect my user wiki page ? In-Reply-To: <11204d710905110909n2d824b16j9d51a7f23ac117d3@mail.gmail.com> References: <11204d710905110847r2cefd669jcb44707e49e8ce7f@mail.gmail.com> <1242057454.3658.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <11204d710905110901r5893690dge49e14ed7b18699b@mail.gmail.com> <11204d710905110909n2d824b16j9d51a7f23ac117d3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <11204d710905110938k7ae59df2m3ad4dd09c27ae0db@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Wael Ammar wrote: > > > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:06 PM, David Nalley wrote: > >> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Wael Ammar >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Christoph Wickert >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Am Montag, den 11.05.2009, 16:47 +0100 schrieb Wael Ammar: >> >> > Hi all, >> >> > >> >> > Someone tried to change my user wiki page on the Fedora Project page >> >> > by adding some false and inappropriate information, so I need to know >> >> > how can I prevent this? Do I have to protect my page? >> >> >> >> The user pages are only editable by people who have a FAS account, read >> >> by Fedora contributors. I think you should first of all contact that >> >> person and ask him, why he edited your page. >> >> >> >> If it was a case of vandalism, the person needs to be removed from FAS. >> > >> > Yes I contact him, this is a vandalism, he said he just wanted to make >> some >> > humor, but I don't like that, this is not responsible. >> > >> >> You should probably be talking to someone in #fedora-admin on IRC or >> contacting admin at fedorproject.org. >> > > Okay, I'll do it right now. > > thanks > > I talked to Mmcgrath on the #fedora-admin and he suggest me to protect my page, so right now I have a protected user wiki page and if I want to make some "edit" I have to contact an admin ton unprotect my page. Yes this is not a comfortable solution but it can prevent other user to edit my page. Thanks. -- Wael Ammar (TheCyberXP) Tunisian Fedora Ambassador Secr?taire G?n?ral Club FreeWays http://www.wael-ammar.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Mon May 11 18:30:43 2009 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 20:30:43 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Ambassador] How can I protect my user wiki page ? In-Reply-To: <11204d710905110938k7ae59df2m3ad4dd09c27ae0db@mail.gmail.com> References: <11204d710905110847r2cefd669jcb44707e49e8ce7f@mail.gmail.com> <1242057454.3658.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <11204d710905110901r5893690dge49e14ed7b18699b@mail.gmail.com> <11204d710905110909n2d824b16j9d51a7f23ac117d3@mail.gmail.com> <11204d710905110938k7ae59df2m3ad4dd09c27ae0db@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1242066643.3658.51.camel@localhost.localdomain> Am Montag, den 11.05.2009, 17:38 +0100 schrieb Wael Ammar: > I talked to Mmcgrath on the #fedora-admin and he suggest me to protect > my page, so right now I have a protected user wiki page and if I want > to make some "edit" I have to contact an admin ton unprotect my page. > > Yes this is not a comfortable solution but it can prevent other user > to edit my page. I agree this is no good solution, but it's better than nothing. It is a technical solution to a social problem. Obviously Akrem001 has not understood what the ambassadors or the wiki are about. People like him need more mentoring and if this does not help, their account needs to be removed from FAS. > Thanks. Regards, Christoph From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Mon May 11 19:01:02 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (Joerg Simon) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 21:01:02 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Ambassador] How can I protect my user wiki page ? In-Reply-To: <11204d710905110938k7ae59df2m3ad4dd09c27ae0db@mail.gmail.com> References: <11204d710905110847r2cefd669jcb44707e49e8ce7f@mail.gmail.com> <11204d710905110909n2d824b16j9d51a7f23ac117d3@mail.gmail.com> <11204d710905110938k7ae59df2m3ad4dd09c27ae0db@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905112101.06202.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Montag 11 Mai 2009 18:38:47 schrieb Wael Ammar: > I talked to Mmcgrath on the #fedora-admin and he suggest me to protect my > page, so right now I have a protected user wiki page and if I want to make > some "edit" I have to contact an admin ton unprotect my page. > Yes this is not a comfortable solution but it can prevent other user to > edit my page. I think this is using a sledge-hammer to crack a nut. I am sure this was a one-time accident - while Akrem001 is a new Ambassador in the Sponsorship Queue and he created his new WikiPage. You can always use the History to turn your WikiPage back to a older State. If someone make real harm to your WikiPage by constantly changing the Page or adding abusing things there are ways to remove this People from FAS. Because Akrem001 is from your Country please help him to find a way into the Project as his Mentor. Thanks and cu Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Mon May 11 19:11:40 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (Joerg Simon) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 21:11:40 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Message-ID: <200905112111.40456.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear Ambassadors, let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ar29un from India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Any0n3 from Germany https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kelito from Venezuela https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Coolbung from India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Akrem001 from Tunisia Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 From jaa at redhat.com Mon May 11 23:12:37 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 19:12:37 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Start of F11 Marketing and Press Push Message-ID: <4A08B0E5.3000905@redhat.com> Hello All, The press push for Fedora 11 will be in full effect starting tomorrow. Below is what I will post to the Fedora planet and submit to other news channels tomorrow. Something will be posted about this to announce list tomorrow. Also, this is what should be distributed by the NDN folks and please ambassadors and others if you can help drum up support by linking to this, that would be great. Of course let me know what you think. I will be tweaking this again assuming I get some good feedback. I will be back on the computer at around 11pm. Thanks Jack -------------- The Countdown to Fedora 11 - "Fedora 11 General Overview with Fedora Release Engineer Jesse Keating" Fedora 11 is less than two weeks away. The excitement is in the air as well can't wait to see the product a more than a few long months of hard work. It's prime time to start the countdown clock and start talking about the upcoming release, talk about what users can expect to see, highlight new features and describe some of the enhancements that we can all look forward too. As part of a series of Podcast and print interviews, Today, I would like to present the first podcast in the Fedora 11 Podcast series, an Interview with long time Fedora contributor and Fedora Release Engineer Jesse Keating. The Audio can be found here: http://jack.fedorapeople.org/Fedora 11 Overview - Jesse Keating.mp3 In the interview, Jesse talks to us about the achievement milestone of putting together 11 releases, the process of planning and putting together a Fedora release, how it was done for F11 and also some of the tools, which he helped create which are used to put together the Fedora distribution. He talks about Pungi [https://fedorahosted.org/pungi/] and Revisor [http://revisor.fedoraunity.org/] which are tools used to compose the Fedora tree and create a custom remix or re-spin, respesctively. He also talks about some of the changes which have taken place under the hood to enable Fedora's new super fast boot up. Jesse takes us on a whirlwind tour of some of the greatest enhancements we can look forward to in F11, including changes to PackageKit and a new upstream version of RPM, the new default ext4 filesystem, enhanced fingerprint support for authentication and what we can look forward to in the future releases of Fedora. The Full Fedora 11 Feature list can be found at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/FeatureList and you can look forward to more in depth coverage of some of those features and of the upcoming release in the days to come. Fedora 11 is sure to prove a highly innovative and technology advanced release. Fedora 11. Get ready. There's reason to be excited! From stickster at gmail.com Mon May 11 23:17:19 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 19:17:19 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Fwd: working w/ LUGs] Message-ID: <20090511231719.GP7127@localhost.localdomain> Hello USA Midwest (and other) Ambassadors, This came in to the Websites list among other places. Is there anyone not too far away from the NWCLUG who can get in touch with them and assist them in their inquiries? Paul ----- Forwarded message from Mike Swier ----- Hi all, I help run NorthWest Chicagoland Linux User Group (NWCLUG). We are wondering if you work LUGs. If so, how? If this went to the incorrect area please let me know where this should be directed and/or please pass it along to the correct area. Our website is http://nwclug.harpercollege.edu You can email us nwclugadmin at harpercollege dot edu. If you need our mailing address is: Mike Swier (NWCLUG) Harper College 1200 W. Algonquin Rd Palatine, IL 60067 thanks mikie ----- End forwarded message ----- From ian at ianweller.org Mon May 11 23:24:35 2009 From: ian at ianweller.org (Ian Weller) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 18:24:35 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Start of F11 Marketing and Press Push In-Reply-To: <4A08B0E5.3000905@redhat.com> References: <4A08B0E5.3000905@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090511232435.GD17039@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 07:12:37PM -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > http://jack.fedorapeople.org/Fedora 11 Overview - Jesse Keating.mp3 > This really does need to be OGG Vorbis. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems#MP3_Support Also the properly encoded and clickable URL is http://jack.fedorapeople.org/Fedora%2011%20Overview%20-%20Jesse%20Keating.mp3 -- Ian Weller GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <200905112101.06202.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <11204d710905110847r2cefd669jcb44707e49e8ce7f@mail.gmail.com> <11204d710905110909n2d824b16j9d51a7f23ac117d3@mail.gmail.com> <11204d710905110938k7ae59df2m3ad4dd09c27ae0db@mail.gmail.com> <200905112101.06202.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20090511233330.GE17039@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 09:01:02PM +0200, Joerg Simon wrote: > Am Montag 11 Mai 2009 18:38:47 schrieb Wael Ammar: > > I talked to Mmcgrath on the #fedora-admin and he suggest me to protect my > > page, so right now I have a protected user wiki page and if I want to make > > some "edit" I have to contact an admin ton unprotect my page. > > Yes this is not a comfortable solution but it can prevent other user to > > edit my page. > > I think this is using a sledge-hammer to crack a nut. I am sure this was a > one-time accident - while Akrem001 is a new Ambassador in the Sponsorship > Queue and he created his new WikiPage. You can always use the History to turn > your WikiPage back to a older State. If someone make real harm to your > WikiPage by constantly changing the Page or adding abusing things there are > ways to remove this People from FAS. Because Akrem001 is from your Country > please help him to find a way into the Project as his Mentor. > Oh hi, missed this wiki-related question for a little while. Page protection is a possibility but it will make it so that only sysops can edit the page. Currently there are three sysops: me, ricky, and mmcgrath. Not exactly viable for when you want to change something. The history tab at the top of the document allows you to see the changes to the page. Click on the timestamp for a specific revision to review that; to revert to that revision, hit 'edit' at the top of the page after clicking the timestamp link, then 'save'. Seeing a warning about an out-of-date revision is correct. If this issue escalates please let me know by posting to fedora-wiki at lists.fedoraproject.org [1], the Fedora wiki ticketing system [2], or contacting me personally (less preferable). I've often had people editing my page because they thought it was theirs for some reason; I just dumped the data at that point into their actual user page and posted a message to their user talk page. [1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-wiki [2] https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-wiki/ -- Ian Weller GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stickster at gmail.com Tue May 12 00:18:51 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 20:18:51 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Ambassador] How can I protect my user wiki page ? In-Reply-To: <200905112101.06202.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <11204d710905110847r2cefd669jcb44707e49e8ce7f@mail.gmail.com> <11204d710905110909n2d824b16j9d51a7f23ac117d3@mail.gmail.com> <11204d710905110938k7ae59df2m3ad4dd09c27ae0db@mail.gmail.com> <200905112101.06202.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20090512001851.GB7127@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 09:01:02PM +0200, Joerg Simon wrote: > Am Montag 11 Mai 2009 18:38:47 schrieb Wael Ammar: > > I talked to Mmcgrath on the #fedora-admin and he suggest me to protect my > > page, so right now I have a protected user wiki page and if I want to make > > some "edit" I have to contact an admin ton unprotect my page. > > Yes this is not a comfortable solution but it can prevent other user to > > edit my page. > > I think this is using a sledge-hammer to crack a nut. I am sure this was a > one-time accident - while Akrem001 is a new Ambassador in the Sponsorship > Queue and he created his new WikiPage. You can always use the History to turn > your WikiPage back to a older State. If someone make real harm to your > WikiPage by constantly changing the Page or adding abusing things there are > ways to remove this People from FAS. Because Akrem001 is from your Country > please help him to find a way into the Project as his Mentor. > > Thanks and cu Joerg Joerg, this was an excellent answer. I did email Akrem001 just to give him a gentle reminder of how we treat other people's User pages, and that I was sure he didn't mean any harm. Only in an instance of repeat offenses or really grievous vandalism should we be responding with any sort of action on an account. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From jaa at redhat.com Tue May 12 02:30:59 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (jaa at redhat.com) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 22:30:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Start of F11 Marketing and Press Push In-Reply-To: <20090511232435.GD17039@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> References: <4A08B0E5.3000905@redhat.com> <20090511232435.GD17039@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> Message-ID: <2532A309-FE56-4EE1-B652-647AA7C7EADE@redhat.com> On May 11, 2009, at 19:25, Ian Weller wrote: > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 07:12:37PM -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: >> http://jack.fedorapeople.org/Fedora 11 Overview - Jesse Keating.mp3 >> > This really does need to be OGG Vorbis. > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems#MP3_Support > > Also the properly encoded and clickable URL is > http://jack.fedorapeople.org/Fedora%2011%20Overview%20-%20Jesse%20Keating.mp3 +1 I know. The final will be in off and encoded properly. :) Jack From affix at FedoraProject.org Tue May 12 06:29:01 2009 From: affix at FedoraProject.org (Keiran Smith) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 07:29:01 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Start of F11 Marketing and Press Push In-Reply-To: <2532A309-FE56-4EE1-B652-647AA7C7EADE@redhat.com> References: <4A08B0E5.3000905@redhat.com> <20090511232435.GD17039@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> <2532A309-FE56-4EE1-B652-647AA7C7EADE@redhat.com> Message-ID: Jack may we use your post in Blogs ourselves? I will also send a copy of this to The Editor of LXF if that is ok with yourself On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:30 AM, wrote: > On May 11, 2009, at 19:25, Ian Weller wrote: > > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 07:12:37PM -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: >> >>> http://jack.fedorapeople.org/Fedora 11 Overview - Jesse Keating.mp3 >>> >>> This really does need to be OGG Vorbis. >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems#MP3_Support >> >> Also the properly encoded and clickable URL is >> >> http://jack.fedorapeople.org/Fedora%2011%20Overview%20-%20Jesse%20Keating.mp3 >> > > +1 I know. The final will be in off and encoded properly. :) > > Jack > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Keiran Smith - Fedora Ambassador / BugZapper - - Free Software Foundation Associate - - http://keiran-smith.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[1] http://tv.dgplug.org/oggs/fedora/fedora_11_overview_jesse_keating.ogg Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in From jrobertomercadog at gmail.com Tue May 12 07:17:23 2009 From: jrobertomercadog at gmail.com (Jose Roberto Mercado Gonzalez) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 02:17:23 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] (no subject) Message-ID: <8da7cc380905120017x3a5df50hb46eac416c0a3633@mail.gmail.com> unsuscribe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thecyberxp at gmail.com Tue May 12 08:05:03 2009 From: thecyberxp at gmail.com (Wael Ammar) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:05:03 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Ambassador] How can I protect my user wiki page ? In-Reply-To: <1242092096.3658.117.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <11204d710905110847r2cefd669jcb44707e49e8ce7f@mail.gmail.com> <1242057454.3658.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <11204d710905110901r5893690dge49e14ed7b18699b@mail.gmail.com> <11204d710905110909n2d824b16j9d51a7f23ac117d3@mail.gmail.com> <11204d710905110938k7ae59df2m3ad4dd09c27ae0db@mail.gmail.com> <1242066643.3658.51.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1242092096.3658.117.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <11204d710905120105h6f2277dfxe8d4bdc35b95c626@mail.gmail.com> Hi, On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:34 AM, Christoph Wickert < christoph.wickert at googlemail.com> wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 12.05.2009, 02:10 +0200 schrieb Akrem Guediri: > > sorry > > I promise to do not again.... > > sorry > > No problem Akrem, > you don't need to apologize to me. If you want to apolgize, then to > Wael. > > Wael, please be so kind as to help our new ambassador. > I have contacted him and I will have a personal meeting with him to explain the guide line of being a Fedora Ambassador > > If any of you two has any problems, for example with the wiki, feel free > to contact me. I'll be glad to answer your questions. > for sure :) > > Kind Regards, > Christoph > > > > > 2009/5/11, Christoph Wickert : > > > Am Montag, den 11.05.2009, 17:38 +0100 schrieb Wael Ammar: > > > > > >> I talked to Mmcgrath on the #fedora-admin and he suggest me to protect > > >> my page, so right now I have a protected user wiki page and if I want > > >> to make some "edit" I have to contact an admin ton unprotect my page. > > >> > > >> Yes this is not a comfortable solution but it can prevent other user > > >> to edit my page. > > > > > > I agree this is no good solution, but it's better than nothing. It is a > > > technical solution to a social problem. Obviously Akrem001 has not > > > understood what the ambassadors or the wiki are about. People like him > > > need more mentoring and if this does not help, their account needs to > be > > > removed from FAS. > I'll try to be his mentor for this month :) hoping that this incident does not recur and he can prove his competance as an ambassador. Regards -- Wael Ammar (TheCyberXP) Tunisian Fedora Ambassador Secr?taire G?n?ral Club FreeWays http://www.wael-ammar.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aveeksn at gmail.com Tue May 12 08:43:15 2009 From: aveeksn at gmail.com (Aveek Sen) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:13:15 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Press releases Message-ID: Hi!, This is to continue what I had suggested about press releases. I am pasting two links on Firefox & its add-on Hyperwords' discussion in the technical columns -- The Times Of India, a reputed national daily in India--http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1004341,prtpage-1.cms The Economist------http://www.economist.com/science/tq/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11482527 -- Aveek Sen, First year student of Electronics & Comminication Engineering, Fedora Ambassador, NIT Agartala, India. aveeksn at gmail.com aveeksen at fedoraproject.org aveek at hotmail.com Our GLUG-http://groups.google.co.in/group/nitalug My blog:http://aveek.wordpress.com/ My Fedora wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Aveeksen From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Tue May 12 09:54:44 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 15:24:44 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Best Linux distros for power users, gamers, newbies and more In-Reply-To: References: <1242111311.3331.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1242122084.3331.63.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 09:53 +0200, Rudolf Kastl wrote: > 2009/5/12 Ankur Sinha : > > hi, > > > > "Firstly, Fedora just looks better, despite being built around the same > > Gnome desktop as Debian. The astronomical theme that accompanies you > > while you launch the operating system is carried on to the blue desktop, > > and there's a distinct feeling that a lot of love has gone into Fedora's > > default theme. > > well it is just a theme though. and themes are a matter of taste. i am > not sure if that is a good argument for the topic "best for power > users, gamers, newbies". > from my pov a real power user doesent waste resources on wallpapers. > but oh well. > > > > > Secondly, Fedora manages to include OpenOffice.org 3, while Debian is > > still a revision behind, and Fedora's version of Firefox keeps the > > original branding, rather than the confusing rebranding of all things > > Mozilla insisted on by the Debian developers." > > Different target audience and release cycle. Personally i find it > quite neat that the debian guys dont do compomises on things like > trademarks. > > > > > "For every day desktop use, Fedora can't be beaten. The choice of > > software is excellent, and we can't think of anything that's missing. > > Fedora's stance on freedom is a little painful if you need proprietary > > drivers or MP3 support, but these issues can be worked around." > > errm... no comment, btw the debian repositorys still hold alot more > content. a few years ago linux power users still cared about freedom. > > dont get me wrong... i am a long time redhat/fedora user, but i just > dont see any really good arguments in the article above... why a power > user, gamer or newbie would want to choose fedora instead debian (the > headline claims "best linux distro" but in the end it seems to be a > fedora vs debian thingie) > > kind regards, > Rudolf Kastl > > > > > > :D > > > > http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/best-linux-distros-for-power-users-gamers-newbies-and-more-596697?artc_pg=3 > > > > regards, > > > > Ankur > > > > -- > > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > > Fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > > > hi, I just posted the fedora part of the post. Read the entire article :) (the link I've given takes you to page 3).Fedora has been noted as best for daily use.. They've given other distros etc for other specific purposes.. regards, Ankur From akrem001 at gmail.com Tue May 12 12:06:09 2009 From: akrem001 at gmail.com (Akrem Guediri) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:06:09 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Ambassador] How can I protect my user wiki page ? In-Reply-To: <11204d710905120105h6f2277dfxe8d4bdc35b95c626@mail.gmail.com> References: <11204d710905110847r2cefd669jcb44707e49e8ce7f@mail.gmail.com> <1242057454.3658.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <11204d710905110901r5893690dge49e14ed7b18699b@mail.gmail.com> <11204d710905110909n2d824b16j9d51a7f23ac117d3@mail.gmail.com> <11204d710905110938k7ae59df2m3ad4dd09c27ae0db@mail.gmail.com> <1242066643.3658.51.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1242092096.3658.117.camel@localhost.localdomain> <11204d710905120105h6f2277dfxe8d4bdc35b95c626@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks Wael and Christoph. Me and Wael we are two member in same association named Youth and Science Every saturday, i meet him. We speak about project of our association .... but this saturday we will speak about how to be a good , so good ambassador...... Thanks again to all Fedora family .... ;) 2009/5/12 Wael Ammar > Hi, > > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:34 AM, Christoph Wickert < > christoph.wickert at googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Am Dienstag, den 12.05.2009, 02:10 +0200 schrieb Akrem Guediri: >> > sorry >> > I promise to do not again.... >> > sorry >> >> No problem Akrem, >> you don't need to apologize to me. If you want to apolgize, then to >> Wael. >> >> Wael, please be so kind as to help our new ambassador. >> > > I have contacted him and I will have a personal meeting with him to explain > the guide line of being a Fedora Ambassador > > >> >> If any of you two has any problems, for example with the wiki, feel free >> to contact me. I'll be glad to answer your questions. >> > > for sure :) > > >> >> Kind Regards, >> Christoph >> >> > >> > 2009/5/11, Christoph Wickert : >> > > Am Montag, den 11.05.2009, 17:38 +0100 schrieb Wael Ammar: >> > > >> > >> I talked to Mmcgrath on the #fedora-admin and he suggest me to >> protect >> > >> my page, so right now I have a protected user wiki page and if I want >> > >> to make some "edit" I have to contact an admin ton unprotect my page. >> > >> >> > >> Yes this is not a comfortable solution but it can prevent other user >> > >> to edit my page. >> > > >> > > I agree this is no good solution, but it's better than nothing. It is >> a >> > > technical solution to a social problem. Obviously Akrem001 has not >> > > understood what the ambassadors or the wiki are about. People like him >> > > need more mentoring and if this does not help, their account needs to >> be >> > > removed from FAS. >> > > I'll try to be his mentor for this month :) hoping that this incident does > not recur and he can prove his competance as an ambassador. > > > Regards > > > > > -- > Wael Ammar (TheCyberXP) > Tunisian Fedora Ambassador > Secr?taire G?n?ral Club FreeWays > http://www.wael-ammar.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Places it should go: Fedora Marketing List Fedora Ambassadors List Planet Fedora News Distribution Network - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications - Any press generated should go into the press archive Ultimately we'll want to take a few of our news items and turn them into something for Red Hat's Press Blog also. --Max From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Tue May 12 12:29:46 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:59:46 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Clarification Needed Message-ID: <1242131386.3331.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> hi, I got this comment to my post http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/2009/05/12/fedora-10-best-for-everyday-use/ "Debian removes the Firefox branding because it is non-free. I therefore conclude that Fedora doesn?t care about freedom." I've never used Debian and don't exactly know what's going on with FF. Can someone please post a reply to this and enlighten me in the process? regards, Ankur From stickster at gmail.com Tue May 12 12:46:49 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 08:46:49 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Start of F11 Marketing and Press Push In-Reply-To: References: <4A08B0E5.3000905@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090512124649.GE15982@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 02:19:33PM +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > On Mon, 11 May 2009, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > >> The press push for Fedora 11 will be in full effect starting tomorrow. >> Below is what I will post to the Fedora planet and submit to other news >> channels tomorrow. Something will be posted about this to announce list >> tomorrow. Also, this is what should be distributed by the NDN folks and >> please ambassadors and others if you can help drum up support by linking >> to this, that would be great. > > Places it should go: > > Fedora Marketing List > Fedora Ambassadors List > Planet Fedora > News Distribution Network > - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_press_publications > - Any press generated should go into the press archive > > Ultimately we'll want to take a few of our news items and turn them into > something for Red Hat's Press Blog also. I think the fedora-announce-list subscribers would probably consider this falling outside that list's purpose. Posts to the Planet should be sufficient to cover the Fedora community itself, I'd think. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From leonardo.vaz at gmail.com Tue May 12 12:47:26 2009 From: leonardo.vaz at gmail.com (Leonardo Menezes Vaz) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:47:26 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Clarification Needed In-Reply-To: <1242131386.3331.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1242131386.3331.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1ff193860905120547u1cb65a08u96718688cea21155@mail.gmail.com> > I've never used Debian and don't exactly know what's going on with FF. > Can someone please post a reply to this and enlighten me in the process? Yes, unfortunately what they say about FF branding is true, though forking it is an extremist act in my humble opinion. Further information can be found in the link bellow: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_conflict_between_Debian_and_Mozilla Leo -- Leonardo Menezes Vaz ++55 51 91568225 www.tchelinux.org From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Tue May 12 12:51:28 2009 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:51:28 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Clarification Needed In-Reply-To: <1242131386.3331.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1242131386.3331.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <2d319b780905120551s6e0e0829l9f997c432030d385@mail.gmail.com> > "Debian removes the Firefox branding because it is non-free. I therefore > conclude that Fedora doesn?t care about freedom." The Firefox name and logos are registered trademarks. However, the Firefox code is free. Fedora can't care about this name and logo issue as... Well, the Fedora name and logo are also registered trademarks, which means that it would be totally inconsistent to enforce freedom trademark for some software but not for us. Fedora is free regarding the code. Debian is somehow ? freeer ? as they also consider trademark freedom. However, if you are concerned about this particular issue, you can replace the ? fedora-logos ? package by the ? generic-logos ? one. This package is the only one in Fedora that carries the Fedora trademarked logo, and you can easily replace it. Regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) From jaa at redhat.com Tue May 12 13:36:10 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:36:10 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Start of F11 Marketing and Press Push In-Reply-To: References: <4A08B0E5.3000905@redhat.com> <20090511232435.GD17039@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> <2532A309-FE56-4EE1-B652-647AA7C7EADE@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4A097B4A.6050706@redhat.com> Yes, please do, my post is going up at 10AM eastern. Jack Keiran Smith wrote: > Jack may we use your post in Blogs ourselves? I will also send a copy > of this to The Editor of LXF if that is ok with yourself > > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:30 AM, > wrote: > > On May 11, 2009, at 19:25, Ian Weller > wrote: > > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 07:12:37PM -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > > http://jack.fedorapeople.org/Fedora 11 Overview - Jesse > Keating.mp3 > > This really does need to be OGG Vorbis. > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems#MP3_Support > > Also the properly encoded and clickable URL is > http://jack.fedorapeople.org/Fedora%2011%20Overview%20-%20Jesse%20Keating.mp3 > > > +1 I know. The final will be in off and encoded properly. :) > > Jack > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Keiran Smith > - Fedora Ambassador / BugZapper - > > - Free Software Foundation Associate - > > - http://keiran-smith.net > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From jaa at redhat.com Tue May 12 13:41:11 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:41:11 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Start of F11 Marketing and Press Push In-Reply-To: References: <4A08B0E5.3000905@redhat.com> <20090511232435.GD17039@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> Message-ID: <4A097C77.4080304@redhat.com> Kushal Das wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:54 AM, Ian Weller wrote: > >> This really does need to be OGG Vorbis. >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems#MP3_Support >> >> Also the properly encoded and clickable URL is >> http://jack.fedorapeople.org/Fedora%2011%20Overview%20-%20Jesse%20Keating.mp3 >> >> > Here [1] is the ogg version of it. > I am going to put it on Fedora TV also. > > [1] http://tv.dgplug.org/oggs/fedora/fedora_11_overview_jesse_keating.ogg > > > Kushal > Kushal, Thanks! I also put up my own ogg version on my fedorapeople. http://jack.fedorapeople.org Jack From jaa at redhat.com Tue May 12 14:09:39 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:09:39 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Countdown to Fedora 11 Begins! Message-ID: <4A098323.1020502@redhat.com> Fedora 11 is less than two weeks away. The excitement is in the air as well can't wait to see the product of more than a few long months of hard work. It's prime time to start the countdown clock and start talking about the upcoming release, talk about what users can expect to see, highlight new features and describe some of the enhancements that we can all look forward too. As part of a series of Podcast and print interviews, Today, I would like to present the first podcast in the Fedora 11 Podcast series, an Interview with long time Fedora contributor and Fedora Release Engineer Jesse Keating. The Audio can be found here: "Fedora 11 General Overview with Fedora Release Engineer Jesse Keating" - [http://jack.fedorapeople.org/Fedora%2011%20Overview%20-%20Jesse%20Keating.ogg] In the interview, Jesse talks to us about the achievement milestone of putting together 11 releases, the process of planning and putting together a Fedora release, how it was done for F11 and also some of the tools, which he helped create which are used to put together the Fedora distribution. He talks about Pungi [https://fedorahosted.org/pungi/] and Revisor [http://revisor.fedoraunity.org/] which are tools used to compose the Fedora tree and create a custom remix or re-spin, respesctively. He also talks about some of the changes which have taken place under the hood to enable Fedora's new super fast boot up. Jesse takes us on a whirlwind tour of some of the greatest enhancements we can look forward to in F11, including changes to PackageKit and a new upstream version of RPM, the new default ext4 filesystem, enhanced fingerprint support for authentication and what we can look forward to in the future releases of Fedora. The Full Fedora 11 Feature list can be found at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/FeatureList and you can look forward to more in depth coverage of some of those features and of the upcoming release in the days to come. Fedora 11 is sure to prove a highly innovative and technology advanced release. Fedora 11. Get ready. There's reason to be excited! From hicham7575 at gmail.com Tue May 12 14:16:47 2009 From: hicham7575 at gmail.com (Hicham Aoufir) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:16:47 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Countdown to Fedora 11 Begins! In-Reply-To: <4A098323.1020502@redhat.com> References: <4A098323.1020502@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1440017f0905120716x1c486f8ao45b18f7069a93663@mail.gmail.com> I really can't wait to install the new F11 ! -- A.Hicham +212644158121 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaa at redhat.com Tue May 12 14:18:22 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:18:22 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] CORRECTION: The Countdown to Fedora 11 Begins Message-ID: <4A09852E.6010506@redhat.com> Fedora 11 is less than two weeks away. The excitement is in the air and we all can't wait to see the product of more than a few long months of hard work. It's prime time to start talking about what users can expect to see, highlight new features and describe some of the enhancements that we can all look forward too. As part of a series of podcast and print interviews, Today, I would like to present the first podcast in the Fedora 11 Podcast series, an interview with long time Fedora contributor and Fedora Release Engineer Jesse Keating. The audio can be found here: "Fedora 11 General Overview with Fedora Release Engineer Jesse Keating" - [http://jack.fedorapeople.org/Fedora%2011%20Overview%20-%20Jesse%20Keating.ogg] In the interview, Jesse talks to us about the achievement milestone of putting together 11 releases, the process of planning and putting together a Fedora release, how it was done for F11 and also some of the tools, which he helped create which are used to put together the Fedora distribution. He talks about Pungi [https://fedorahosted.org/pungi/] and Revisor [http://revisor.fedoraunity.org/] which are tools used to compose the Fedora tree and create a custom remix or re-spin, respectively. He also talks about some of the changes which have taken place under the hood to enable Fedora's new faster and improved boot up. Jesse takes us on a whirlwind tour of some of the greatest enhancements we can look forward to in F11, including changes to PackageKit and a new upstream version of RPM, the new default ext4 filesystem, enhanced fingerprint support for authentication and what we can look forward to in the future releases of Fedora. The Full Fedora 11 Feature list can be found at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/FeatureList and you can look forward to more in depth coverage of some of those features and of the upcoming release in the days to come. Fedora 11 is sure to prove a highly innovative and technologically advanced release. Fedora 11. Get ready. There's reason to be excited! From stickster at gmail.com Tue May 12 14:25:46 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:25:46 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Start of F11 Marketing and Press Push In-Reply-To: <4A08B0E5.3000905@redhat.com> References: <4A08B0E5.3000905@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090512142546.GG15982@localhost.localdomain> ** resend since my original from last night is sitting in mod-queue ** On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 07:12:37PM -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Hello All, > > The press push for Fedora 11 will be in full effect starting tomorrow. > Below is what I will post to the Fedora planet and submit to other news > channels tomorrow. Something will be posted about this to announce list > tomorrow. Also, this is what should be distributed by the NDN folks and > please ambassadors and others if you can help drum up support by linking > to this, that would be great. > > Of course let me know what you think. I will be tweaking this again > assuming I get some good feedback. I will be back on the computer at > around 11pm. I'm not sure what feedback you were looking for exactly. I made some grammatical and content suggestions. > -------------- > > The Countdown to Fedora 11 - "Fedora 11 General Overview with Fedora > Release Engineer Jesse Keating" > > Fedora 11 is less than two weeks away. The excitement is in the air as > well can't wait to see the product a more than a few long months of hard ^^^^^ Not sure what you meant by this sentence; it doesn't scan. > work. It's prime time to start the countdown clock and start talking > about the upcoming release, talk about what users can expect to see, Make this "It's prime time to start talking about what users can expect to see, highlight..." We've started talking some time ago. > highlight new features and describe some of the enhancements that we can > all look forward too. As part of a series of Podcast and print Make that lower case "podcast." > interviews, Today, I would like to present the first podcast in the > Fedora 11 Podcast series, an Interview with long time Fedora > contributor "interview" > and Fedora Release Engineer Jesse Keating. The Audio can be found here: "audio" > http://jack.fedorapeople.org/Fedora 11 Overview - Jesse Keating.mp3 > > In the interview, Jesse talks to us about the achievement milestone of > putting together 11 releases, the process of planning and putting > together a Fedora release, how it was done for F11 and also some of the > tools, which he helped create which are used to put together the Fedora > distribution. He talks about Pungi [https://fedorahosted.org/pungi/] and > Revisor [http://revisor.fedoraunity.org/] which are tools used to compose > the Fedora tree and create a custom remix or re-spin, > respesctively. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ respectively > He also talks about some of the changes which have taken place under > the hood to enable Fedora's new super fast boot up. "faster" or "improved," as opposed to "super fast." > Jesse takes us > on a whirlwind tour of some of the greatest enhancements we can look > forward to in F11, including changes to PackageKit It would really be nice to ensure whatever Jesse says about PK is bare-bones, or at least non-conflicting. There's a whole PK podcast ready as we agreed in our planning: http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/audio/pk-podcast.ogg http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/audio/pk-podcast.mp3 > and a new > upstream version of RPM, the new default ext4 filesystem, enhanced > fingerprint support for authentication and what we can look forward > to in the future releases of Fedora. > > The Full Fedora 11 Feature list can be found at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/FeatureList and you can look > forward to more in depth coverage of some of those features and of the > upcoming release in the days to come. Fedora 11 is sure to prove a > highly innovative and technology advanced release. "technologically advanced" > Fedora 11. Get ready. There's reason to be excited! Damn skippy. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From affix at FedoraProject.org Tue May 12 14:29:21 2009 From: affix at FedoraProject.org (Keiran Smith) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 15:29:21 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: canot get fedora In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I will send you out a copy of fedora 10 would you like i386 ox x64? If you are unsure I will send an i386 DVD within the next 24 hours On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:09 AM, marie henstock wrote: > iv been trying to obtain fedora via the scotland site (via the free media > program fr people who can not afford to buy or download it) However i havent > been able to and i cant find any other links for me to use in the uk i live > in england can you help please? > My details are as follows marie henstock > 174 gleadless road > heley > sheffield > southyorkshire > s2 3af > angels2soon at live.co.uk > thankyou > > ------------------------------ > Get the New Internet Explore 8 Optimised for MSN. 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URL: From jaa at redhat.com Tue May 12 14:31:22 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:31:22 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Please Digg This Mornings Post Message-ID: <4A09883A.3070304@redhat.com> http://digg.com/d1r0NZ From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Tue May 12 14:37:03 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 20:07:03 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Please Digg This Mornings Post In-Reply-To: <4A09883A.3070304@redhat.com> References: <4A09883A.3070304@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1242139023.3331.69.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 10:31 -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > http://digg.com/d1r0NZ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Dugg.. We can give links to the post on our blogs right? Ankur From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue May 12 15:12:09 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:12:09 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] Please Digg This Mornings Post In-Reply-To: <1242139023.3331.69.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4A09883A.3070304@redhat.com> <1242139023.3331.69.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 10:31 -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: >> http://digg.com/d1r0NZ >> The link you really want to give is: http://digg.com/linux_unix/The_Countdown_to_Fedora_11_Begins The one you gave takes you to the story without any referral back to digg.com Cheers, Clint From jaa at redhat.com Tue May 12 15:33:15 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 11:33:15 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Please Digg This Mornings Post In-Reply-To: References: <4A09883A.3070304@redhat.com> <1242139023.3331.69.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A0996BB.2090802@redhat.com> Clint Savage wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > >> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 10:31 -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: >> >>> http://digg.com/d1r0NZ >>> >>> > > The link you really want to give is: > > http://digg.com/linux_unix/The_Countdown_to_Fedora_11_Begins > > The one you gave takes you to the story without any referral back to digg.com > > There should be a digg bar on top of the story that lets you digg it and also go to the main digg page if you want. Jack From krsloco at gmail.com Tue May 12 17:06:50 2009 From: krsloco at gmail.com (Kellerman Rivero) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] The Countdown to Fedora 11 Begins! Message-ID: <4a09acaa.1f538c0a.68fd.ffffac1e@mx.google.com> I using Fedora 11 beta, o alpha, I not remenber now, but, I could talk about F11 good good and good, it's really stable, (a exception of kde4 demond sound), sorry my bad english, I don't speak english. From hicham7575 at gmail.com Tue May 12 17:09:52 2009 From: hicham7575 at gmail.com (Hicham Aoufir) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:09:52 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Countdown to Fedora 11 Begins! In-Reply-To: <4a09acaa.1f538c0a.68fd.ffffac1e@mx.google.com> References: <4a09acaa.1f538c0a.68fd.ffffac1e@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <1440017f0905121009r583ae9c3m4f294e0a534b06ab@mail.gmail.com> So what was the most interesting thing in F11 in your opinion ? -- A.Hicham +212644158121 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hagr182 at gmail.com Tue May 12 22:08:35 2009 From: hagr182 at gmail.com (Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:08:35 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] POLL: Leonidas related, please answer Message-ID: <1d24cdf80905121508w66bb5c48if04021bcb578c7db@mail.gmail.com> As of right now im preparing both a small course (one session, two hours) and an article, and as data for both of them im running this little "poll", so please be kind and answer, on my case im gonna get kde for my desktop and gnome for my laptop. 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URL: From dextone at dextone.co.cc Tue May 12 22:59:09 2009 From: dextone at dextone.co.cc (dextone dexter) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 05:59:09 +0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] POLL: Leonidas related, please answer In-Reply-To: <200905121855.39057.wm161@wm161.net> References: <1d24cdf80905121508w66bb5c48if04021bcb578c7db@mail.gmail.com> <200905121855.39057.wm161@wm161.net> Message-ID: <6a117f060905121559x35cfd2cct40069d17912e3917@mail.gmail.com> I love gnome, plus i would like to add my gnome with gnome-global-menu... ;) On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Trever Fischer wrote: > On Tuesday 12 May 2009 6:08:35 pm Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez wrote: > > As of right now im preparing both a small course (one session, two hours) > > and an article, and as data for both of them im running this little > "poll", > > so please be kind and answer, on my case im gonna get kde for my desktop > > and gnome for my laptop. > > > > So wich "spin" of fedora are you gonna install when Leonidas is finally > > unleashed? is it going to be gnome, kde, xcfe?? > I'd say 'spin' is a bad term to use here taking into account the previous > discussions on f-d. 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My allways-carry-with-me VM have the "standard" gnome. mit freundlichen Gr??en / best regards Henrik Heigl - wonderer at fedoraproject.org Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez schrieb: > As of right now im preparing both a small course (one session, two > hours) and an article, and as data for both of them im running this > little "poll", so please be kind and answer, on my case im gonna get > kde for my desktop and gnome for my laptop. > > So wich "spin" of fedora are you gonna install when Leonidas is > finally unleashed? is it going to be gnome, kde, xcfe?? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maxamillion at gmail.com Wed May 13 04:47:08 2009 From: maxamillion at gmail.com (Adam Miller) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 23:47:08 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] POLL: Leonidas related, please answer In-Reply-To: <4A0A02DB.5010307@gmx.de> References: <1d24cdf80905121508w66bb5c48if04021bcb578c7db@mail.gmail.com> <4A0A02DB.5010307@gmx.de> Message-ID: Xfce here. -Adam -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com --------------------------------------------------------- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments From satyajit at nerdshack.com Wed May 13 05:04:13 2009 From: satyajit at nerdshack.com (Satyajit) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:04:13 +0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] POLL: Leonidas related, please answer In-Reply-To: References: <1d24cdf80905121508w66bb5c48if04021bcb578c7db@mail.gmail.com> <4A0A02DB.5010307@gmx.de> Message-ID: <4A0A54CD.6040409@nerdshack.com> I'd prefer to use KDE, but with pulse audio and bluetooth i'd stick with GNOME Satyajit From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Wed May 13 05:13:34 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:43:34 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] POLL: Leonidas related, please answer In-Reply-To: <4A0A54CD.6040409@nerdshack.com> References: <1d24cdf80905121508w66bb5c48if04021bcb578c7db@mail.gmail.com> <4A0A02DB.5010307@gmx.de> <4A0A54CD.6040409@nerdshack.com> Message-ID: <1242191614.3331.73.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 12:04 +0700, Satyajit wrote: > I'd prefer to use KDE, but with pulse audio and bluetooth i'd stick with > GNOME > > Satyajit > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list hi, I'd stick with GNOME too.. Will give all other desktops a try though.. :) regards, Ankur From acaleechurn at gmail.com Wed May 13 05:23:32 2009 From: acaleechurn at gmail.com (Amit Caleechurn) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:23:32 +0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] POLL: Leonidas related, please answer In-Reply-To: <1d24cdf80905121508w66bb5c48if04021bcb578c7db@mail.gmail.com> References: <1d24cdf80905121508w66bb5c48if04021bcb578c7db@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Gnome for the laptop :-) May give KDE a try on the desktop Amit On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez < hagr182 at gmail.com> wrote: > As of right now im preparing both a small course (one session, two hours) > and an article, and as data for both of them im running this little "poll", > so please be kind and answer, on my case im gonna get kde for my desktop and > gnome for my laptop. > > So wich "spin" of fedora are you gonna install when Leonidas is finally > unleashed? is it going to be gnome, kde, xcfe?? > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Shoaib On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez < hagr182 at gmail.com> wrote: > As of right now im preparing both a small course (one session, two hours) > and an article, and as data for both of them im running this little "poll", > so please be kind and answer, on my case im gonna get kde for my desktop and > gnome for my laptop. > > So wich "spin" of fedora are you gonna install when Leonidas is finally > unleashed? is it going to be gnome, kde, xcfe?? > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Wed May 13 06:31:59 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:01:59 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors]Wiki Page for articles and corrections In-Reply-To: <4A09883A.3070304@redhat.com> References: <4A09883A.3070304@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1242196319.3331.76.camel@localhost.localdomain> hi, Recently Rahul and Paul had discussed what they could do to rectify/clarify erronous data that articles over the internet publish. I had thought up something and just made a draft page for you folks to see.I've added a few entries just as a demo. The page will be open (obviously). Please comment/discuss the page, and if okay, we can use it.[1] [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Media_publishings regards, Ankur From electromech at electromech.info Wed May 13 12:06:54 2009 From: electromech at electromech.info (Nilesh J. Vaghela) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:36:54 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Open source projects for PHD Message-ID: <4A0AB7DE.9050900@electromech.info> Hi All, Few of our students and friends would like to do PHD on open source technologies. Can we have some suggestion for the Subject ?? -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner 16, Sun Rise complex, Nr. Mansi cross Road, Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda. www.electromech.info From joseroberto at ieee.org Wed May 13 10:51:57 2009 From: joseroberto at ieee.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Roberto_Colombo_Junior?=) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:51:57 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] POLL: Leonidas related, please answer In-Reply-To: References: <1d24cdf80905121508w66bb5c48if04021bcb578c7db@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I prefer Gnome. 2009/5/13 Muhammad Shoaib Irtaza > Hi! it is my first time posting here in the mailing list. When I get a > chance make use of Leonidas, I would most likely install kde and/or gnome. > > Shoaib > > > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez < > hagr182 at gmail.com> wrote: > >> As of right now im preparing both a small course (one session, two hours) >> and an article, and as data for both of them im running this little "poll", >> so please be kind and answer, on my case im gonna get kde for my desktop and >> gnome for my laptop. >> >> So wich "spin" of fedora are you gonna install when Leonidas is finally >> unleashed? is it going to be gnome, kde, xcfe?? >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Jos? 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URL: From tatica at fedoraproject.org Wed May 13 12:11:06 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 07:41:06 +1930 Subject: [Ambassadors] POLL: Leonidas related, please answer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <27a6293b0905130511r26fdb76ay2d7eba8e5adb211@mail.gmail.com> kde here 2009/5/14 magesh : > i love using KDE for my laptop, it gives a good look and feel > > Things i love with gnome > > * i love the nautilus-sento for sending files via bluetooth (which is not > possible with the dolphin or konqueror i guess) > *setting up bluetooth devices(pairing) was easy > > > Things i love with KDE > > *mainly the look and feel & special effects > *the desktop widgets(plasma) > *file-association settings > *i love the dolphin file manager more than nautilus (i dont like the > konqueror) > *device notification applet > *kde applications like kjots, kcontact are also good > > I prefer KDE than Gnome > > -- > magesh > Life is "just tryin out things to see if they work" > > http://magesh.geexhq.com/ > http://twitter.com/mageshcse > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" From saahil.in at gmail.com Wed May 13 12:12:27 2009 From: saahil.in at gmail.com (saahil.in at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:12:27 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] POLL: Leonidas related, please answer In-Reply-To: <1d24cdf80905121508w66bb5c48if04021bcb578c7db@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001636283960f8ab0d0469ca1f21@google.com> Hello, Though i've been using GNOME since the first time I used Fedora, I plan to migrate to KDE in Leonidas. Of course, I'll switch back if the experience isn't as good. I expect quite a lot out of KDE this time :-). Regards, Saahil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From leonardo.vaz at gmail.com Wed May 13 12:26:51 2009 From: leonardo.vaz at gmail.com (Leonardo Menezes Vaz) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:26:51 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] POLL: Leonidas related, please answer In-Reply-To: <001636283960f8ab0d0469ca1f21@google.com> References: <1d24cdf80905121508w66bb5c48if04021bcb578c7db@mail.gmail.com> <001636283960f8ab0d0469ca1f21@google.com> Message-ID: <1ff193860905130526n2e56272bpf3d307c321a1eb01@mail.gmail.com> I run Fedora on all my machines. At work I use Gnome, at home I am trying KDE 4.2 and the NetBook I take with me everywhere runs LXDE (used to be XFCE). -- Leonardo Menezes Vaz ++55 51 91568225 www.tchelinux.org From pcalarco at nd.edu Wed May 13 12:33:59 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:33:59 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] POLL: Leonidas related, please answer In-Reply-To: References: <1d24cdf80905121508w66bb5c48if04021bcb578c7db@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0ABE37.5000205@nd.edu> I use KDE now primarily, but usually install both KDE and Gnome. - pascal > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Hector Alfonso Gonzalez Ramirez > > wrote: > > As of right now im preparing both a small course (one session, two > hours) and an article, and as data for both of them im running this > little "poll", so please be kind and answer, on my case im gonna get > kde for my desktop and gnome for my laptop. > > So wich "spin" of fedora are you gonna install when Leonidas is > finally unleashed? is it going to be gnome, kde, xcfe?? > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From krsloco at gmail.com Wed May 13 13:03:55 2009 From: krsloco at gmail.com (Kellerman) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:33:55 -0430 Subject: [Ambassadors] POLL: Leonidas related, please answer In-Reply-To: References: <1d24cdf80905121508w66bb5c48if04021bcb578c7db@mail.gmail.com> <4A0A02DB.5010307@gmx.de> Message-ID: <7df9574c0905130603j484cea9au8b7e20791be0cde0@mail.gmail.com> I prefer KDE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From kam at kamsalisbury.com Wed May 13 13:10:00 2009 From: kam at kamsalisbury.com (kam at kamsalisbury.com) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 09:10:00 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] POLL: Leonidas related, please answer Message-ID: <0KJL00F3O3A238EZ@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> Xfce -- Kam Salisbury http://kamsalisbury.com From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Wed May 13 13:18:31 2009 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:18:31 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] POLL: Leonidas related, please answer In-Reply-To: <1d24cdf80905121508w66bb5c48if04021bcb578c7db@mail.gmail.com> References: <1d24cdf80905121508w66bb5c48if04021bcb578c7db@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d319b780905130618p1a47bff1nf1f5afef04c1361c@mail.gmail.com> > As of right now im preparing both a small course (one session, two hours) > and an article, and as data for both of them im running this little "poll", > so please be kind and answer, on my case im gonna get kde for my desktop and > gnome for my laptop. > > So wich "spin" of fedora are you gonna install when Leonidas is finally > unleashed? is it going to be gnome, kde, xcfe?? Is the ambassador mailing list really the best place to make such a poll ? Regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) From stickster at gmail.com Wed May 13 14:02:13 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:02:13 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors]Wiki Page for articles and corrections In-Reply-To: <1242196319.3331.76.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4A09883A.3070304@redhat.com> <1242196319.3331.76.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090513140213.GH3391@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:01:59PM +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote: > hi, > > Recently Rahul and Paul had discussed what they could do to > rectify/clarify erronous data that articles over the internet publish. I > had thought up something and just made a draft page for you folks to > see.I've added a few entries just as a demo. The page will be open > (obviously). > > Please comment/discuss the page, and if okay, we can use it.[1] > > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Media_publishings I think your heart's definitely in the right place, Ankur! But I'd worry this page in its current state would quickly grow out of control, given the number of articles that pop up over even just one development cycle. What if the page used a simple queue system? Each article could include a very small amount of information in a table: * Hyperlink to the article * Comment by someone on the Marketing team who has seen it, noting a questionable section Also, the page would include general guidelines on how to make corrections. Once corrections are made, the correcting person could strike the row from the table, so at any time it only shows the current state of the queue. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Wed May 13 14:12:24 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:42:24 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors]Wiki Page for articles and corrections In-Reply-To: <4A0AD0C7.6040606@fedoraproject.org> References: <4A09883A.3070304@redhat.com> <1242196319.3331.76.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A0AD0C7.6040606@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1242223944.5142.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 19:23 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/13/2009 12:01 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > hi, > > > > Recently Rahul and Paul had discussed what they could do to > > rectify/clarify erronous data that articles over the internet publish. I > > had thought up something and just made a draft page for you folks to > > see.I've added a few entries just as a demo. The page will be open > > (obviously). > > > > Please comment/discuss the page, and if okay, we can use it.[1] > > > > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Media_publishings > > I think you are duplicating > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_press_archive > > Rahul > hi, just checked the link you've given.. i missed it , i guess.. regards, Ankur From francesco at ephisia.org Wed May 13 14:11:01 2009 From: francesco at ephisia.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:11:01 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] POLL: Leonidas related, please answer In-Reply-To: <2d319b780905130618p1a47bff1nf1f5afef04c1361c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1d24cdf80905121508w66bb5c48if04021bcb578c7db@mail.gmail.com> <2d319b780905130618p1a47bff1nf1f5afef04c1361c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: This is the wrong list for such thigs. Moreover i invite to read the maling list rules in order to avoid this situation again. Just close this thread. Apologizing for any inconvenience it caused Regards Francesco Ugolini From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Wed May 13 14:17:04 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:47:04 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors]Wiki Page for articles and corrections In-Reply-To: <20090513140213.GH3391@localhost.localdomain> References: <4A09883A.3070304@redhat.com> <1242196319.3331.76.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090513140213.GH3391@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1242224224.5142.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 10:02 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > I think your heart's definitely in the right place, Ankur! But I'd > worry this page in its current state would quickly grow out of > control, given the number of articles that pop up over even just one > development cycle. > > What if the page used a simple queue system? > > Each article could include a very small amount of information in a > table: > > * Hyperlink to the article > > * Comment by someone on the Marketing team who has seen it, noting a > questionable section > > Also, the page would include general guidelines on how to make > corrections. Once corrections are made, the correcting person could > strike the row from the table, so at any time it only shows the > current state of the queue. > > -- > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > hi, Rahul just directed me to the actual press archives that are already being maintained.. This page could **only be about the articles that need corrections**.. The queue system sounds perfect to me.. I could make the tables but someone will please have to do the guidelines part etc.. I'm really not qualified enough for that.. :) Should i move the page to "article corrections" ?? Please suggest a name. We will need to publicize this page so people know they are supposed to refer to it before absorbing data that floats around (check up if its correct or not).. regards, Ankur From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Wed May 13 15:44:26 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:44:26 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Message-ID: <200905131744.26880.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear Ambassadors, let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Zaidchauhan from India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Khopkarpiyush01 from India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Alepilot from Brazil https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bipworld from India https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sigmoun from Tunisia https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Emigonza from Argentina Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 From fugolini at fedoraproject.org Wed May 13 17:03:34 2009 From: fugolini at fedoraproject.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:03:34 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo Regional Meeting with LATAM - Thursday (tomorrow) 14/05/2009 18.00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tomorrow we are going to have the FAmSCo Regional Meeting with LATAM Ambassadors at 18.00 UTC*. I invite LATAM contributors to join this meeting. We will discuss about: - Does the allocated resources fit the necessities of LATAM countries? - What can FAmSCo do to improve you experience with Events? - Are you planning FADs, if yes, what can FAmSCo do to help you? - More to come: just come there and ask. Your presence will help us having a better looking at what we can do for you. At the end, if we will have some time, we will discuss about Ambassadors Mentoring. Regards Francesco Ugolini * http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=5&day=14&year=2009&hour=18&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 From tatadbb at gmail.com Wed May 13 17:38:45 2009 From: tatadbb at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 13:08:45 +1930 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo Regional Meeting with LATAM - Thursday (tomorrow) 14/05/2009 18.00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <27a6293b0905131038j3edafa37l918c20a0a3524e99@mail.gmail.com> Excelent, I'll be there 2009/5/14, Francesco Ugolini : > Tomorrow we are going to have the FAmSCo Regional Meeting with LATAM > Ambassadors at 18.00 UTC*. > > I invite LATAM contributors to join this meeting. > > We will discuss about: > > - Does the allocated resources fit the necessities of LATAM countries? > - What can FAmSCo do to improve you experience with Events? > - Are you planning FADs, if yes, what can FAmSCo do to help you? > - More to come: just come there and ask. Your presence will help us > having a better looking at what we can do for you. > > At the end, if we will have some time, we will discuss about > Ambassadors Mentoring. > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > > * > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=5&day=14&year=2009&hour=18&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" From renich at woralelandia.com Wed May 13 19:12:01 2009 From: renich at woralelandia.com (Renich Bon Ciric) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:12:01 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] =?utf-8?q?The_GNU_=26_Linux_Community_advancement_?= =?utf-8?q?in_Guadalajara=2C_Jalisco=2C_M=C3=A9xico?= Message-ID: <1b4d94a30905131212u443a3d91q62105032c8a0fade@mail.gmail.com> Well, first of all, I need to explain a bit of my perception of the "Community" in Guadalajara. IMHO, the community in Guadalajara is not as collaborative, united and well established as others. We need to have points of reunion and events. One of these points of reunion is LinuxCabal (http://www.linuxcabal.org/) and, in their name (not Fedora's so far), LinuxCabal has a warehouse with a LAN and WIFI... and some very old PCs; which, in a very slow way, funciton... hehe I've been developing some infrastructure project so we can aspire to get, from some companies, government, organizations or schools, a bit of equipment. So far, I've taken this project to HP and CANIETI (National Chamber of Electronics, Telecommunications and IT Industries), of which most big companies, if not all, are members. I was very surprised, in HP, when the person that I made first contact with (Sagrario Robles) asked me if "Lynucs" was a program developed by LinuxCabal and what "open source" is. Also, when I went to CANIETI, the President; from IBM, was very exited about OpenOffice... but he had, whatsoever, no experience with a GNU & Linux distro. I couldn't believe my ears... I got really confused... I thought these guys would go like "hey, Linux!! Yeah, great!! We were waiting for ya!" All of them agreed to participate in many ways. HP offered 300 developers "at our service" and said that they would do marketing inside HP and that they would study the possibility of donating the equipment (some servers, 10 workstations and other A/V stuff). CANIETI asked us to migrate their 12 workstation office to GNU & Linux and offered a ton of things: - Really cool infrastructure for events (2 or 3 400 people capacity venues with A/V equipment and all) - The possibility to promote and represent the Community in government chairs, schools, companies, etc - The possibility to promote GNU & Linux in important; bi-annual, company owner meetings - Help with projects; to help us develop them and get them to the right institutions/people/government departments, etc - Access to CANIETI's Software Centre (500 developers there) So, they just asked us to become legally established (NGO); which costs ~$800 usd here. We're trying to get the money... we've got ~$100 so far. I'm telling you all this because I love Fedora and the community around it. I'm helping out LinuxCabal because there's a need for some generic group here; in which I represent Fedora. I'm open to ideas, collaboration and stuff you wanna tell me. I'm a total noob here, so, I'd love suggestions and stuff people could collaborate. I'm sure it's similar in other parts of the world but... regarding legal stuff and ways of thinking, every country is unique. -- It's hard to be free... but I love to struggle! Renich Bon Ciric http://www.woralelandia.com/ http://www.introbella.com/ From stickster at gmail.com Wed May 13 22:02:05 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:02:05 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Clarification Needed In-Reply-To: <2d319b780905120551s6e0e0829l9f997c432030d385@mail.gmail.com> References: <1242131386.3331.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> <2d319b780905120551s6e0e0829l9f997c432030d385@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090513220205.GL30679@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 02:51:28PM +0200, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: > > "Debian removes the Firefox branding because it is non-free. I therefore > > conclude that Fedora doesn?t care about freedom." > > The Firefox name and logos are registered trademarks. However, the > Firefox code is free. If you want a real lawyer's opinion on this, you'd need to ask one, and I'm not one. But Debian's position is based on Debian's interpretation of trademarks and how they interact with free software. In my view, including the Firefox name and logos is not a problem because the code is still free to modify, as long as you remove the trademarks when publishing a modified version. One's right to modify and redistribute is not hampered, but one must also respect the trademark owner's rights as well. > Fedora can't care about this name and logo issue as... Well, the > Fedora name and logo are also registered trademarks, which means that > it would be totally inconsistent to enforce freedom trademark for some > software but not for us. Yes, it would be inconsistent. > Fedora is free regarding the code. Debian is somehow ? freeer ? as > they also consider trademark freedom. It's not that they consider trademark freedom, but rather that they interpret the requirement to remove trademarks as an encroachment on the freedom of the source code. I don't believe that's an accurate reading of trademark law or freedom; it's one of the few areas where we probably differ from Debian, since we see eye to eye with them on many issues. > However, if you are concerned about this particular issue, you can > replace the ? fedora-logos ? package by the ? generic-logos ? one. > This package is the only one in Fedora that carries the Fedora > trademarked logo, and you can easily replace it. Remember that the "Fedora" name is a trademark too; by replacing fedora-release and fedora-release-notes with the generic-* equivalents you are completing the task. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From bochecha at fedoraproject.org Wed May 13 22:39:22 2009 From: bochecha at fedoraproject.org (Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 00:39:22 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Clarification Needed In-Reply-To: <20090513220205.GL30679@localhost.localdomain> References: <1242131386.3331.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> <2d319b780905120551s6e0e0829l9f997c432030d385@mail.gmail.com> <20090513220205.GL30679@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <2d319b780905131539p54263ed6rd10bef858ce6326b@mail.gmail.com> >> Fedora is free regarding the code. Debian is somehow ? freeer ? as >> they also consider trademark freedom. > > It's not that they consider trademark freedom, but rather that they > interpret the requirement to remove trademarks as an encroachment on > the freedom of the source code. ?I don't believe that's an accurate > reading of trademark law or freedom; it's one of the few areas where > we probably differ from Debian, since we see eye to eye with them on > many issues. Yes, that sentance of mine was definitely not clear. Language bareer and all this stuff. Thanks for clarifying it, that's actually what I meant by ? they consider trademark freedom ? :) >> However, if you are concerned about this particular issue, you can >> replace the ? fedora-logos ? package by the ? generic-logos ? one. >> This package is the only one in Fedora that carries the Fedora >> trademarked logo, and you can easily replace it. > > Remember that the "Fedora" name is a trademark too; by replacing > fedora-release and fedora-release-notes with the generic-* equivalents > you are completing the task. Didn't know about the generic-release{,-notes} packages, only about the generic-logos. Learning everytime :) Regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) From oglesbyzm at gmail.com Wed May 13 23:05:10 2009 From: oglesbyzm at gmail.com (Zach Oglesby) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:05:10 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Clarification Needed In-Reply-To: References: <1242131386.3331.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> <2d319b780905120551s6e0e0829l9f997c432030d385@mail.gmail.com> <20090513220205.GL30679@localhost.localdomain> <2d319b780905131539p54263ed6rd10bef858ce6326b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Linux is also trademarked maybe we should stop using that as well. Zach Oglesby GPG Key - 1378F79F http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Zoglesby On May 13, 2009 6:39 PM, "Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)" < bochecha at fedoraproject.org> wrote: >> Fedora is free regarding the code. Debian is somehow ? freeer ? as >> they also consider trademar... Yes, that sentance of mine was definitely not clear. Language bareer and all this stuff. Thanks for clarifying it, that's actually what I meant by ? they consider trademark freedom ? :) >> However, if you are concerned about this particular issue, you can >> replace the ? fedora-logos... Didn't know about the generic-release{,-notes} packages, only about the generic-logos. Learning everytime :) Regards, ---------- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/m... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stickster at gmail.com Wed May 13 23:29:54 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:29:54 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Clarification Needed In-Reply-To: References: <1242131386.3331.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> <2d319b780905120551s6e0e0829l9f997c432030d385@mail.gmail.com> <20090513220205.GL30679@localhost.localdomain> <2d319b780905131539p54263ed6rd10bef858ce6326b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090513232954.GQ30679@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 07:05:10PM -0400, Zach Oglesby wrote: > Linux is also trademarked maybe we should stop using that as well. The Fedora trademark doesn't include the Linux trademark. As long as we continue to attribute the Linux trademark correctly, there's no issue here. http://www.linuxmark.org/who_needs.php -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From a.mani.cms at gmail.com Thu May 14 00:14:45 2009 From: a.mani.cms at gmail.com (Mani A) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 05:14:45 +0500 Subject: [Ambassadors]Wiki Page for articles and corrections In-Reply-To: <1242224224.5142.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4A09883A.3070304@redhat.com> <1242196319.3331.76.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090513140213.GH3391@localhost.localdomain> <1242224224.5142.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <78323d480905131714u7572c092s94d518e1a5d17ba1@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > Rahul just directed me to the actual press archives that are already > being maintained.. This page could **only be about the articles that > need corrections**.. > The queue system sounds perfect to me.. I could make the tables but > someone will please have to do the guidelines part etc.. I'm really not > qualified enough for that.. :) Article Title Source General Remarks Severity of Disinformation --> Very Severe/ Severe/ Medium / Low Relevant passages (link to another local location ) Action Required ---> Assigned To ---> Resolution --> > Should i move the page to "article corrections" ?? Please suggest a > name. Modify it completely "Media Watch" "Against Disinformation" > > We will need to publicize this page so people know they are supposed to > refer to it before absorbing data that floats around (check up if its > correct or not).. The page maintainer can send mails to relevant lists and blog about it. Look for a 'Fedora Myths' page Best A. Mani -- A. Mani ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://amani.topcities.com From satyajit at nerdshack.com Thu May 14 01:24:03 2009 From: satyajit at nerdshack.com (Satyajit) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:24:03 +0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Blog: What to expect from fedora 11 Message-ID: <4A0B72B3.4060901@nerdshack.com> Hi all, I have written an article on what to expect from Fedora 11 on my blog: http://satyajitranjeev.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/what-to-expect-from-fedora-11/ Your feedback and comments. Satyajit From renich at woralelandia.com Thu May 14 08:03:03 2009 From: renich at woralelandia.com (Renich Bon Ciric) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 03:03:03 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] =?utf-8?q?Fedora_M=C3=A9xico_on_Facebook?= Message-ID: <1b4d94a30905140103s2101cf1ewd9264e41a0ad4552@mail.gmail.com> Guys, there's Fedora M?xico on FB. Join if interested: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fedora-Mexico/71816678729?ref=nf -- It's hard to be free... but I love to struggle! Renich Bon Ciric http://www.woralelandia.com/ http://www.introbella.com/ From oglesbyzm at gmail.com Thu May 14 10:13:24 2009 From: oglesbyzm at gmail.com (Zach Oglesby) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 06:13:24 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Clarification Needed In-Reply-To: <20090513232954.GQ30679@localhost.localdomain> References: <1242131386.3331.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> <2d319b780905120551s6e0e0829l9f997c432030d385@mail.gmail.com> <20090513220205.GL30679@localhost.localdomain> <2d319b780905131539p54263ed6rd10bef858ce6326b@mail.gmail.com> <20090513232954.GQ30679@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: > > The Fedora trademark doesn't include the Linux trademark. As long as > we continue to attribute the Linux trademark correctly, there's no > issue here. > Sorry that was meant as a joke, I think the fact that Fedora is copyrighted as well was reason enough to stop the argument, but I figured I would remind all that Linux is a registered trademark as well. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Thu May 14 10:42:16 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:12:16 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] whose handling fedora_linux on twitter? Message-ID: <1242297737.3318.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> hi, To whoever is responsible for fedora_linux on twitter.. " 9... days until Fedora 11" "!Fedora 11 coming in 9 more days! Super fast bootup, ext4 and updated desktops!" "Mark your calendar, 5/26 is the day to get !Fedora 11" 26th is 12 days away..today is 14th, isn't it? please clarify..?? http://twitter.com/fedora_linux -- regards, Ankur From joseroberto at ieee.org Thu May 14 10:44:32 2009 From: joseroberto at ieee.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Roberto_Colombo_Junior?=) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 07:44:32 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Blog: What to expect from fedora 11 In-Reply-To: <4A0B72B3.4060901@nerdshack.com> References: <4A0B72B3.4060901@nerdshack.com> Message-ID: Fantastic, congratulations! 2009/5/13 Satyajit > Hi all, > > I have written an article on what to expect from Fedora 11 on my > blog: > > http://satyajitranjeev.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/what-to-expect-from-fedora-11/ > Your feedback and comments. > > Satyajit > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Jos? 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Frields) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:12:16 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Clarification Needed In-Reply-To: References: <1242131386.3331.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> <2d319b780905120551s6e0e0829l9f997c432030d385@mail.gmail.com> <20090513220205.GL30679@localhost.localdomain> <2d319b780905131539p54263ed6rd10bef858ce6326b@mail.gmail.com> <20090513232954.GQ30679@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090514121216.GC3461@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 06:13:24AM -0400, Zach Oglesby wrote: > > > The Fedora trademark doesn't include the Linux trademark. As long as > we continue to attribute the Linux trademark correctly, there's no > issue here. > > > Sorry that was meant as a joke, I think the fact that Fedora is copyrighted as > well was reason enough to stop the argument, but I figured I would remind all > that Linux is a registered trademark as well. My personal humor-o-meter was apparently badly calibrated. No worries, mate. :-) Maybe the information helped someone along the way, which could make up for my not sensing the joke properly! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From aks.abhishek at gmail.com Thu May 14 12:12:24 2009 From: aks.abhishek at gmail.com (Abhishek Singh) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:57:24 +0545 Subject: [Ambassadors] whose handling fedora_linux on twitter? In-Reply-To: <1242297737.3318.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1242297737.3318.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <73396bd30905140512n1f42caber2098f305de156763@mail.gmail.com> I'm myself stunned at this. How come the dates differ in the release schedule and the twitter post. _________________________________________________________ Regards, Abhishek Singh Fedora 10 (Cambridge) has released http://fedoraproject.org On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > hi, > > To whoever is responsible for fedora_linux on twitter.. > " 9... days until Fedora 11" > > "!Fedora 11 coming in 9 more days! Super fast bootup, ext4 and updated > desktops!" > > "Mark your calendar, 5/26 is the day to get !Fedora 11" > > 26th is 12 days away..today is 14th, isn't it? please clarify..?? > > http://twitter.com/fedora_linux > -- > regards, > > Ankur > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kam at kamsalisbury.com Thu May 14 13:19:00 2009 From: kam at kamsalisbury.com (kam at kamsalisbury.com) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:19:00 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] whose handling fedora_linux on twitter? Message-ID: <0KJM00AWDYDL2EGA@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Sorry, yes it is 5/26 for the final release date. A google gadget I used said it was 9 days and I did not check it. I will have more posts coming until and including the release date. -- Kam Salisbury http://kamsalisbury.com -----Original Message----- From: Ankur Sinha Subj: [Ambassadors] whose handling fedora_linux on twitter? Date: Thu May 14, 2009 6:41 am Size: 520 bytes To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com hi, To whoever is responsible for fedora_linux on twitter.. " 9... days until Fedora 11" "!Fedora 11 coming in 9 more days! Super fast bootup, ext4 and updated desktops!" "Mark your calendar, 5/26 is the day to get !Fedora 11" 26th is 12 days away..today is 14th, isn't it? please clarify..?? http://twitter.com/fedora_linux -- regards, Ankur -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Thu May 14 13:26:54 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 18:56:54 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] whose handling fedora_linux on twitter? In-Reply-To: <0KJM00AWDYDL2EGA@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0KJM00AWDYDL2EGA@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <1242307614.3318.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 09:19 -0400, kam at kamsalisbury.com wrote: > Sorry, yes it is 5/26 for the final release date. A google gadget I used said it was 9 days and I did not check it. > > I will have more posts coming until and including the release date. > > -- > Kam Salisbury > http://kamsalisbury.com > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ankur Sinha > Subj: [Ambassadors] whose handling fedora_linux on twitter? > Date: Thu May 14, 2009 6:41 am > Size: 520 bytes > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > hi, okay.. :) /me wonders what's wrong with the gadget though.. regards, Ankur From karlie_robinson at webpath.net Thu May 14 13:51:01 2009 From: karlie_robinson at webpath.net (Karlie Robinson) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:51:01 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] whose handling fedora_linux on twitter? In-Reply-To: <0KJM00AWDYDL2EGA@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0KJM00AWDYDL2EGA@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <4A0C21C5.3090904@webpath.net> Kam, is there anyway to do more than just release date stuff? The OS is the star of the show, but it's only the tip of the iceberg buzz wise. We're making math with Sugar Labs. We're having release parties. People can get stickers and shirts at groups.on-disk.com's SWAG exchange and many many more things. ~Karlie kam at kamsalisbury.com wrote: > Sorry, yes it is 5/26 for the final release date. A google gadget I used said it was 9 days and I did not check it. > > I will have more posts coming until and including the release date. > > -- > Kam Salisbury > http://kamsalisbury.com > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ankur Sinha > Subj: [Ambassadors] whose handling fedora_linux on twitter? > Date: Thu May 14, 2009 6:41 am > Size: 520 bytes > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > hi, > > > > To whoever is responsible for fedora_linux on twitter.. > > " 9... days until Fedora 11" > > > > "!Fedora 11 coming in 9 more days! Super fast bootup, ext4 and updated > > desktops!" > > > > "Mark your calendar, 5/26 is the day to get !Fedora 11" > > > > 26th is 12 days away..today is 14th, isn't it? please clarify..?? > > > > http://twitter.com/fedora_linux > > From mspevack at redhat.com Thu May 14 14:31:36 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:31:36 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo Regional Meeting with LATAM - Thursday (tomorrow) 14/05/2009 18.00 UTC In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0905131038j3edafa37l918c20a0a3524e99@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0905131038j3edafa37l918c20a0a3524e99@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 14 May 2009, Mar?a Leandro wrote: > Excelent, I'll be there I will be there also! --Max From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Thu May 14 15:27:10 2009 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:27:10 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmSCo Regional Meeting with LATAM - Thursday (tomorrow) 14/05/2009 18.00 UTC In-Reply-To: References: <27a6293b0905131038j3edafa37l918c20a0a3524e99@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0C384E.8090502@projetofedora.org> Max Spevack escreveu: > On Thu, 14 May 2009, Mar?a Leandro wrote: > >> Excelent, I'll be there > > I will be there also! > > --Max Hablaremos todos Espa?ol ? :-) -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From fabhoneydew at gmail.com Thu May 14 15:35:33 2009 From: fabhoneydew at gmail.com (kishan goyal) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:05:33 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] dgplug FAD Day-1 Message-ID: <9f45b2730905140835g65e78160r8ff2322af65e10e5@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Day - 1 of the Fedora Activity Day was conducted by the Linux Users' Group of Durgapur, dgplug in Dr. B. C. Roy Engineering College today. Report can be found at [1]. Tomorrow would be the 2nd and final day of the event. [1] http://honeyinveins.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/dgplug-fad-1/ Regards, KishanGoyal. From rtnpro at gmail.com Thu May 14 15:17:09 2009 From: rtnpro at gmail.com (Ratnadeep Debnath) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 20:47:09 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] DGPLUG FAD Message-ID: <467c41720905140817p3e79f2abi2b33928a9a85340b@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, It is a pleasure to inform you that today the 1st day of DGPLUG Fedora Activity Day was conducted in Dr. B. C. Roy Engineering College, Durgapur. Tomorrow is going to be the 2nd and final day of this event. The 1st day was pretty fruitful. The event report can be found at http://ratnadeepdebnath.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/dgplug-fedora-activity-day-day-1-14-may-2009/ Regards, Thanks, rtnpro | Ratnadeep Debnath From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Thu May 14 19:02:25 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:02:25 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Blog: What to expect from fedora 11 In-Reply-To: <4A0B72B3.4060901@nerdshack.com> References: <4A0B72B3.4060901@nerdshack.com> Message-ID: <50baabb30905141202q169f2d28gc8a26f4413ff7c7d@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Satyajit wrote: > Hi all, > > ? ? ? ?I have written an article on what to expect from Fedora 11 on my > blog: > http://satyajitranjeev.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/what-to-expect-from-fedora-11/ > Your feedback and comments. > Hmm you missed some items with respect to FEL: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraElectronicLab regards, Chitlesh From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Thu May 14 19:17:05 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:17:05 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Open source projects for PHD In-Reply-To: <4A0AB7DE.9050900@electromech.info> References: <4A0AB7DE.9050900@electromech.info> Message-ID: <50baabb30905141217o3f19ba5at37f447b4658bac79@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Nilesh J. Vaghela wrote: > Hi All, > > Few of our students and friends would like to do PHD on open source > technologies. > > Can we have some suggestion for the Subject ?? > Hello there, Well, with respect to microelectronics I have quite a long list. The following are the most important PHD projects for FEL, - Boolean minimization algorithms for formal verification - digital design - Power estimation for analog circuits - Static Timing Analysis (STA) using opensource industry standard : liberty files However, if one has a favourite subject, I would also consider it. kind regards, Chitlesh From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Thu May 14 19:18:44 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:18:44 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] DGPLUG FAD In-Reply-To: <467c41720905140817p3e79f2abi2b33928a9a85340b@mail.gmail.com> References: <467c41720905140817p3e79f2abi2b33928a9a85340b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <50baabb30905141218u5716b5efg9571ffa7e6176d2b@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Ratnadeep Debnath wrote: > Hi all, > It is a pleasure to inform you that today the 1st day of DGPLUG Fedora > Activity Day was conducted in Dr. B. C. Roy Engineering College, > Durgapur. Tomorrow is going to be the 2nd and final day of this event. > The 1st day was pretty fruitful. The event report can be found at > > http://ratnadeepdebnath.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/dgplug-fedora-activity-day-day-1-14-may-2009/ Hello there, I want to thank everyone over there for talking and presenting fedora electronic lab :) cheers, Chitlesh From bugz.inc at gmail.com Thu May 14 20:51:12 2009 From: bugz.inc at gmail.com (Marspet **) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 22:51:12 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Blog: What to expect from fedora 11 In-Reply-To: <50baabb30905141202q169f2d28gc8a26f4413ff7c7d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A0B72B3.4060901@nerdshack.com> <50baabb30905141202q169f2d28gc8a26f4413ff7c7d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: thanks for this... sent it to many of my friends... On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Satyajit wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have written an article on what to expect from Fedora 11 on my > > blog: > > > http://satyajitranjeev.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/what-to-expect-from-fedora-11/ > > Your feedback and comments. > > > > Hmm you missed some items with respect to FEL: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraElectronicLab > > > regards, > Chitlesh > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Student - COPPE/UFRJ > Fedora Community Manager - Latin America > Red Hat Community and Academy Relations > http://www.proyectofedora.org > http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula > http://www.rodrigopadula.com > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From satyajit at nerdshack.com Fri May 15 00:45:53 2009 From: satyajit at nerdshack.com (Satyajit) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 07:45:53 +0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Blog: What to expect from fedora 11 In-Reply-To: References: <4A0B72B3.4060901@nerdshack.com> <50baabb30905141202q169f2d28gc8a26f4413ff7c7d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0CBB41.7020000@nerdshack.com> Thanks a lot... On 05/15/2009 03:51 AM, Marspet ** wrote: > thanks for this... sent it to many of my friends... > > On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH > wrote: > >> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Satyajit wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I have written an article on what to expect from Fedora 11 on my >>> blog: >>> >> http://satyajitranjeev.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/what-to-expect-from-fedora-11/ >>> Your feedback and comments. >>> >> Hmm you missed some items with respect to FEL: >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraElectronicLab >> >> >> regards, >> Chitlesh >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Roberto Colombo Junior wrote: > Ol? a todos, a prefeitura de Ilha Solteira quer fazer a migra??o de > OS para linux. Como devo proceder? J? conversei com uma das pessoas > que coordenam o projeto. A minha principal pergunta ?: Eu como > embaixador Fedora devo e posso fazer o que? O que eu posso conseguir > para incentivar o uso do Fedora aqui? > PS: s?o cerca de 700 m?quinas. > > Abra?os. Please; http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#Use_the_common_language Thanks :) Mostafa Daneshvar http://mostafadaneshvar.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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O que eu posso conseguir > > para incentivar o uso do Fedora aqui? > > PS: s?o cerca de 700 m?quinas. > > > > Abra?os. > Please; > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#Use_the_common_language > > Thanks :) > > Mostafa Daneshvar http://mostafadaneshvar.com > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Jos? 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[1] http://sherry151.blogspot.com/2009/05/fedora-activity-day-at-bc-roy.html [2] http://www.flickr.com/photos/subhodipbiswas/ -- Regards Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury Fedora Ambassador sherry151 at gmail.com From kushaldas at gmail.com Sun May 17 07:33:35 2009 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 13:03:35 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] B.C Roy Engineering College FAD report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Rangeen Basu wrote: > Hi > > Sorry to be a little late. Here [1] is my report of the FAD at B.C Roy > Engineering College, Durgapur held on 14th May. Here [2] are some of > the photos taken. > > [1] http://sherry151.blogspot.com/2009/05/fedora-activity-day-at-bc-roy.html > > [2] http://www.flickr.com/photos/subhodipbiswas/ > Thanks for the report. But you named the college wrong, it is "Dr. B. C. Roy Engineering College" :) Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in From sherry151 at gmail.com Sun May 17 07:44:34 2009 From: sherry151 at gmail.com (Rangeen Basu) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 13:14:34 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] B.C Roy Engineering College FAD report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Kushal Das wrote: > Thanks for the report. But you named the college wrong, it is "Dr. B. > C. Roy Engineering College" :) > Oh sorry for that. I apologize. I will change it in the report as well. Thanks for the nudge. -- Regards Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury Fedora Ambassador sherry151 at gmail.com Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Sun May 17 08:13:05 2009 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 10:13:05 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Meeting today 1830UTC #fedora-meeting Message-ID: <20090517101305.058ef0ea@mrtomlinux.org> This mail is a reminder for today?s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2009-05-17 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la r?union des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (17 mai.) ? 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'h?sitez pas ? le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent int?ressants. Merci de r?pondre ? ce message en cas d'indisponibilit?. 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My report : [2] & [3] Rtnpro's report : [4] & [5] Pics can also be found at [6] [1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DGPLUG_FAD_2009 [2] http://honeyinveins.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/dgplug-fad-1/ [3] http://honeyinveins.wordpress.com/2009/05/16/dgplug-fad-2/ [4] http://ratnadeepdebnath.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/dgplug-fedora-activity-day-day-1-14-may-2009/ [5] http://ratnadeepdebnath.wordpress.com/2009/05/16/day-2-dgplug-fedora-activity-day-2009/ [6] http://picasaweb.google.com/makghosh/DGPLUGFAD Regards, KishanGoyal. From arunava.chatterjee at ymail.com Sun May 17 13:56:40 2009 From: arunava.chatterjee at ymail.com (Arunava Chatterjee) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 19:26:40 +0530 (IST) Subject: [Ambassadors] B.C Roy Engineering College FAD report Message-ID: <297490.94014.qm@web95003.mail.in2.yahoo.com> Hi Thanks For the report and the pics ... Regards Arunava Chatterjee --- On Sun, 17/5/09, kishan goyal wrote: From: kishan goyal Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] B.C Roy Engineering College FAD report To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com, users at lists.dgplug.org Date: Sunday, 17 May, 2009, 8:43 AM Sorry to be a little late. Here [1] is my report of the FAD at B.C Roy > Engineering College, Durgapur held on 14th May. Here [2] are some of > the photos taken. > > [1] http://sherry151.blogspot.com/2009/05/fedora-activity-day-at-bc-roy.html > > [2] http://www.flickr.com/photos/subhodipbiswas/ > > -- > Regards > Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury > Fedora Ambassador > sherry151 at gmail.com Hi, Here is the completed events page[1] . My report : [2] & [3] Rtnpro's report : [4] & [5] Pics can also be found at [6] [1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DGPLUG_FAD_2009 [2] http://honeyinveins.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/dgplug-fad-1/ [3] http://honeyinveins.wordpress.com/2009/05/16/dgplug-fad-2/ [4] http://ratnadeepdebnath.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/dgplug-fedora-activity-day-day-1-14-may-2009/ [5] http://ratnadeepdebnath.wordpress.com/2009/05/16/day-2-dgplug-fedora-activity-day-2009/ [6] http://picasaweb.google.com/makghosh/DGPLUGFAD Regards, KishanGoyal. -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with Yahoo! India Travel http://in.travel.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Nicolas (kwizart) From tatica at fedoraproject.org Sun May 17 17:01:56 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:31:56 +1930 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Event Report] Fedora Venezuela Aniversary - Caracas 2009 Message-ID: <27a6293b0905171001o8dadda1u8b10eb6f702eda22@mail.gmail.com> Hello to all. Last friday, Caracas users, developers and users of Fedora had a B-day party for the Fedora Venezuelan Community. We had about 25 members at the party and we talk a lot about future projects for Venezuela an LATAM. This are photos and the post I made talking about the B-day (spanish post) but the pictures say it all. btw... we DID had the "fedora Cake" :D post: http://tatica.org/2009/05/17/aniversario-fedora-venezuela-2009/ photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/sets/72157618330243172/ -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" From mspevack at redhat.com Sun May 17 17:13:49 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 19:13:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] [Event Report] Fedora Venezuela Aniversary - Caracas 2009 In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0905171001o8dadda1u8b10eb6f702eda22@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0905171001o8dadda1u8b10eb6f702eda22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 18 May 2009, Mar?a Leandro wrote: > Hello to all. > > Last friday, Caracas users, developers and users of Fedora had a B-day > party for the Fedora Venezuelan Community. We had about 25 members at > the party and we talk a lot about future projects for Venezuela an > LATAM. > > This are photos and the post I made talking about the B-day (spanish > post) but the pictures say it all. > > btw... we DID had the "fedora Cake" :D > > post: http://tatica.org/2009/05/17/aniversario-fedora-venezuela-2009/ > photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/sets/72157618330243172/ I just read your post, and it looks like it was a great day! Congratulations on a successful event, and thanks for organizing it. Everyone looks like they had a lot of fun! --Max From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Sun May 17 18:18:02 2009 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 15:18:02 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Event Report] Fedora Venezuela Aniversary - Caracas 2009 In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0905171001o8dadda1u8b10eb6f702eda22@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0905171001o8dadda1u8b10eb6f702eda22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A1054DA.7000206@projetofedora.org> Congratulations Tatica! You are doing a great job for Fedora in Venezuela and all Latam! Keep walking! You are in the right way! -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com Mar?a Leandro escreveu: > Hello to all. > > Last friday, Caracas users, developers and users of Fedora had a B-day > party for the Fedora Venezuelan Community. We had about 25 members at > the party and we talk a lot about future projects for Venezuela an > LATAM. > > This are photos and the post I made talking about the B-day (spanish > post) but the pictures say it all. > > btw... we DID had the "fedora Cake" :D > > post: http://tatica.org/2009/05/17/aniversario-fedora-venezuela-2009/ > photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/sets/72157618330243172/ > > > > From mspevack at redhat.com Sun May 17 18:53:28 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 20:53:28 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] EMEA IRC meeting -- Wednesday May 20 Message-ID: Hi Ambassadors, As we discussed at our most recent EMEA Ambassadors meeting, there was desire to have two meetings per month. One meeting would be used for general business, and the other meeting would be used to have a detailed discussion about a particular topic. We'll have one of those second types of meetings -- discussion around a particular topic -- this Wednesday, at 2200 CEST, in #fedora-meeting (or if that is booked, in #fedora-ambassadors). The goal of the meeting: To identify 3-5 owners of Fedora Activity Days in the EMEA region, that will take place during the Fedora 12 cycle, and after FUDCon Berlin (so, July - October). https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD Thanks, Max From david at gnsa.us Sun May 17 20:54:55 2009 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 16:54:55 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Event Report] Fedora Venezuela Aniversary - Caracas 2009 In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0905171001o8dadda1u8b10eb6f702eda22@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0905171001o8dadda1u8b10eb6f702eda22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2009/5/17 Mar?a Leandro : > Hello to all. > > Last friday, Caracas users, developers and users of Fedora had a B-day > party for the Fedora Venezuelan Community. We had about 25 members at > the party and we talk a lot about future projects for Venezuela an > LATAM. > > This are photos and the post I made talking about the B-day (spanish > post) but the pictures say it all. > > btw... we DID had the "fedora Cake" :D Is the logo actually frosting? Looks like it was a great event! From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Sun May 17 21:12:46 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 23:12:46 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Message-ID: <200905172312.54161.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear Ambassadors, let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Faxe from Germany https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Khk from Singapore https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kern from Brazil https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Grantbow from the USA https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ahandajf from Cameroon https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Surajneupane from Nepal https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Emmie from Argentina https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Chaoskiller from the Netherlands Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From tatica at fedoraproject.org Sun May 17 21:30:31 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 17:00:31 +1930 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Event Report] Fedora Venezuela Aniversary - Caracas 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <27a6293b0905171001o8dadda1u8b10eb6f702eda22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <27a6293b0905171430s100b81f7u417eb933fcb75db1@mail.gmail.com> Frosting? The logo is made with a special printer. The printer has vegetable inks and the paper is of rice :D (bad translation, but hope you understand me :D ) 2009/5/18 David Nalley : > 2009/5/17 Mar?a Leandro : >> Hello to all. >> >> Last friday, Caracas users, developers and users of Fedora had a B-day >> party for the Fedora Venezuelan Community. We had about 25 members at >> the party and we talk a lot about future projects for Venezuela an >> LATAM. >> >> This are photos and the post I made talking about the B-day (spanish >> post) but the pictures say it all. >> >> btw... we DID had the "fedora Cake" :D > > > Is the logo actually frosting? > > Looks like it was a great event! > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Sun May 17 21:43:01 2009 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:43:01 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Event Report] Fedora Venezuela Aniversary - Caracas 2009 In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0905171430s100b81f7u417eb933fcb75db1@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0905171001o8dadda1u8b10eb6f702eda22@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0905171430s100b81f7u417eb933fcb75db1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7a0d56080905171443uc516654i105a481aaf3d013b@mail.gmail.com> That sounds like a good item for Fedora Weekly News tomorrow. Larry Cafiero 2009/5/17 Mar?a Leandro > Frosting? > > The logo is made with a special printer. The printer has vegetable > inks and the paper is of rice :D > > (bad translation, but hope you understand me :D ) > > 2009/5/18 David Nalley : > > 2009/5/17 Mar?a Leandro : > >> Hello to all. > >> > >> Last friday, Caracas users, developers and users of Fedora had a B-day > >> party for the Fedora Venezuelan Community. We had about 25 members at > >> the party and we talk a lot about future projects for Venezuela an > >> LATAM. > >> > >> This are photos and the post I made talking about the B-day (spanish > >> post) but the pictures say it all. > >> > >> btw... we DID had the "fedora Cake" :D > > > > > > Is the logo actually frosting? > > > > Looks like it was a great event! > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.iseit.net > http://www.latinux.org > http://www.latinux.com > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rishikesh at fedoraproject.org Mon May 18 02:18:29 2009 From: rishikesh at fedoraproject.org (Rishikesh Sharma) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 07:48:29 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Manipur Fedora 11 Release Event at Manipur University In-Reply-To: References: <7cb778c60905171801s3e39cc0fp200a5cc01b73d236@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7cb778c60905171918h1c832484na7ff43bc81e47a5c@mail.gmail.com> After my last Fedora Event, I am helping students and professionals who are not aware of Fedora. I am doing fedora installation on thier Laptops and Desktop for them. And helping them to able to listen music and videos on their Fedora system. I am also helping them to run their choice of open source programs on their fedora. After the release event, lots of people ask me for the free fedora media. I have distributed about 25 fedora 10 DVD's after the release event. I have help Komrein Baptish Church, Langol in installing Fedora 10 as their web server and database server for a missionary project. lots of student approach me to learn Linux but i am not able to teach them on regular basis as i don't have enough time. But for them, i have arrange them for a quick tutorial. i have installed Fedora for a training institute known as Indian Institute of information Technology, Lambulane at Imphal. They primarily used Fedora as their programming platform for students. And I hope, this time we will surely get some Fedora contributors amongst the students of Manipur University. Regards, Rishikesh Sharma Fedora Ambassador Imphal, Manipur. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Susmit wrote: > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Rishikesh Sharma > wrote: > > Hi Susmit, > > > > I am planning to organise Fedora 11 Release Event at Manipur University. > I > > have also uploaded my Event on the > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents > > > > My event page is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/F11-Manipur > > > > My expected budget is around about 300USD. I have also managed my > previous > > release event with 300USD only. > > > > So, I need approval from FAMSCO for the event budget. > > > > While let me thank you for your organisation of the release event, > we are still expecting a reply for this > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-india/2009-May/msg00019.html > > Once we get it, I think it will be easier to move forward. > Thanks. > > > -- > Regards, > Susmit. > > ============================================= > ssh > 0x86DD170A > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit > ============================================= > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shakthimaan at gmail.com Mon May 18 05:20:21 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 10:50:21 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: [ilugd] FOSJAM 2009 16/17th May Jaipur In-Reply-To: <6145529c0905151038td04efa0v2b1e9ccdd7e22fbc@mail.gmail.com> References: <6145529c0905151038td04efa0v2b1e9ccdd7e22fbc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, --- On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:08 PM, anirudh shekhawat wrote: | The event will showcase workshops by free software developers in India, who | have been an actively contributing to the open source community for a long | time now. \-- Don't mix it up! To be safe, just say Free/Open Source (FOSS or FLOSS) community. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From shakthimaan at gmail.com Mon May 18 10:12:41 2009 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 15:42:41 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] [Event Report] Jaipur Engineering College and Research Centre, Jaipur, Rajasthan, India Message-ID: Hi, I would like to thank the Free/Open Source Software user group members of Jaipur [1] [2] and the Jaipur Engineering College and Research Centre Foundation for organizing http://fosjam.in between May 16-17, 2009 at their college premises, Jaipur, Rajasthan, India. * The event has been organized in 10 days time, with heavy discussions on #lug-jaipur on irc.freenode.net. I was overwhelmed by the enthusiasm of the students. The online registration rose to 280+. We had students coming from outside Jaipur as well, and it was a mad rush. The organizers didn't have the heart to say "no", but, they still managed to accommodate 200 people. This, I assume, is the first time that this kinda workshop has been planned at this place. People, there is no need to panic! It is not the end of the world, yet, and this is not the last workshop that we are going to do in Jaipur. * The profiles of the user group members are at: http://fosjam.in/about/about-lug-jaipur/ Special thanks to all of them for their energy, spirit, dynamism in organizing the event. * I also met students from Malaviya National Institute of Technology, (MNIT), Swami Keshvanand Institute of Technology (SKIT), Gyan Vihar Institute of Technology et. al. * It was a pleasure to meet the Director of the Institution, Mr. Arpit Agarwal, a young, open-minded entrepreneur, who was very happy and eager to hear students talking about Free/Open Source. His continued support for this cause, is greatly appreciated. He is happy to help us in organizing more workshops for the young minds, or even a national FOSS unconference in Jaipur! * There are about 17+ colleges around Jaipur, and workshops have to be taken to other places like Kota, Udaipur, Jodhpur, Bikaner et. al. Most of them are affiliated to Rajasthan Technical University (RTU). * Some students are fluent in English. Most of them prefer to converse in Hindi. Of course, technical jargon is in English. So, it is mostly Hinglish [3]. * A separate IRC session was organized to show people how to login and use IRC. * Lot of them use Fedora or some distribution, and are extremely happy with it. Those who enjoy it have realized the power of Free/Open Source Software. The others have started to realize that there is something important here that they can work with. * My presentations, code, documentation are available at: http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads.html * Some photos taken during the trip are at: http://www.shakthimaan.com/Mambo/gallery/album56 * The organizers could possible provide more concrete statistics on the event. Please bear for some time for people to get back their sleep, and you will hear more from blogs, event reports, photos. This is just the beginning. Best regards, SK [1] http://lugj.in [2] http://groups.google.co.in/group/lugj [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinglish -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Mon May 18 13:52:44 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 19:22:44 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 11 media for Indian Ambassadors/Local Contacts. Message-ID: Hi, Please have a look here. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-india/2009-May/msg00109.html Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From inode0 at gmail.com Mon May 18 17:22:08 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:22:08 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Reminder Message-ID: Just a quick reminder that FAmNA will be meeting this Tuesday evening in the usual place at the usual time. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-05-19 Be sure to join us if you would like to vote on the coming meeting schedule or to discuss any other business. John From satyajit at nerdshack.com Tue May 19 01:31:53 2009 From: satyajit at nerdshack.com (Satyajit) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 08:31:53 +0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Why desktop Linux Sucks Message-ID: <4A120C09.2060504@nerdshack.com> Hi all, I came across this video by cris and bryan: http://lunduke.com/?p=429 They did have a few valid points.. You can pick up the slides here: http://lunduke.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/linux-sucks.odp A few areas they spoke were bringing a unified standard for packaging, single multimedia system and a few more. Satyajit From snow.open.ski at gmail.com Tue May 19 02:25:06 2009 From: snow.open.ski at gmail.com (Will) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 22:25:06 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Why desktop Linux Sucks In-Reply-To: <4A120C09.2060504@nerdshack.com> References: <4A120C09.2060504@nerdshack.com> Message-ID: <4A121882.7070503@gmail.com> Satyajit wrote: > Hi all, > > I came across this video by cris and bryan: > http://lunduke.com/?p=429 > They did have a few valid points.. > You can pick up the slides here: > http://lunduke.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/linux-sucks.odp > A few areas they spoke were bringing a unified standard for packaging, > single multimedia system and a few more. > > > Satyajit > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > This is very interesting. Thanks for the find. 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On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > Hi, > > I'll be glad to be on it too. > > Zied. > > > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Chiheb Chabchoub < > chiheb.chabchoub at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Me too Nihed, i will be in this event for represent fedora with you. >> >> Regards >> >> >> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:47, nihed mbarek wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> It will be a pleasure for me to represent Fedora on this Event. >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> >>> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH < >>> chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello there, >>>> >>>> The 16th IEEE International Conference on Electronics, Circuits, and >>>> Systems, ICECS 2009 [1], will be held in Tunisia on the 13th to 16th >>>> December 2009. >>>> >>>> The wiki page [2] says we have 7 ambassadors in Tunisia. Can anyone of >>>> you represent FEL at that conference ? >>>> >>>> Tasks include: >>>> - writing and sending a paper (will be done by me) >>>> - prepare local ambassadors with the talking points (will be done by me) >>>> - attend the conference and distribute your Fedora business cards (eat >>>> good food too :) ) >>>> - if our paper is selected by the chair, the ambassador will give a >>>> brief introduction about Fedora&FEL >>>> >>>> You may find other publications, screenshots and presentations on [3]. >>>> >>>> I believe that FEL should be sending papers to technical conferences >>>> around the world. These papers will describe our opensource EDA >>>> solutions and Fedora's key features eventually. >>>> >>>> If you are aware of such conferences in your locality, please let me >>>> know :) >>>> >>>> [1]: http://www.icecs2009.org/ >>>> [2]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList#Africa >>>> [3]: http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> Chitlesh >>>> http://clunixchit.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> M'BAREK Med Nihed, >>> Analyst Revenue Assurance Tunisie Telecom >>> http://www.nihed.com >>> Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa >>> PUB 1024D/9E2FFB76 Date 2009/02/14 >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> >> -- *Chiheb CHABCHOUB* >> Security Engineer at Satec Tunisia >> Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northen Africa >> _______ >> GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 5E0CCFA0 >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > Zied Fakhfakh > Dot TN - CTO > Tel: +216 71 82 89 58 > Fax: +216 71 88 61 12 > http://www.dottn.com > Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 > Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis > Tunisia > -- Zied Fakhfakh Dot TN - CTO Tel: +216 71 82 89 58 Fax: +216 71 88 61 12 http://www.dottn.com Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis Tunisia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ilyes.gouta at gmail.com Tue May 19 08:40:40 2009 From: ilyes.gouta at gmail.com (Ilyes Gouta) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 09:40:40 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] IEEE International Conference in Tunisia In-Reply-To: <436bc6ca0905190014j4b1aadbcy9264f9c19817eafa@mail.gmail.com> References: <50baabb30905070255r12676346y2927508fa696d522@mail.gmail.com> <5bddd8fd0905070347y38d00a45g42acd7b57d56f095@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905090021r3755151dt4116d9890a8f4790@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905190014j4b1aadbcy9264f9c19817eafa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <234fa2210905190140r3ea5f204o706d3e4fd4d5eeac@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Maybe we should get in touch with Tunisian students who are using EDA tools for their projects, that's people doing electrical and telecom engineering basically (ENIT, Sup'Com). Can we get some of them involved? -Ilyes On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > Hi, > > is there anything we need to prepare here in Tunisia for this event ? > > Zied. > > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I'll be glad to be on it too. >> >> Zied. >> >> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Chiheb Chabchoub >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Me too Nihed, i will be in this event for represent fedora with you. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:47, nihed mbarek wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> It will be a pleasure for me to represent Fedora on this Event. >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello there, >>>>> >>>>> The 16th IEEE International Conference on Electronics, Circuits, and >>>>> Systems, ICECS 2009 [1], will be held in Tunisia on the 13th to 16th >>>>> December 2009. >>>>> >>>>> The wiki page [2] says we have 7 ambassadors in Tunisia. Can anyone of >>>>> you represent FEL at that conference ? >>>>> >>>>> Tasks include: >>>>> - writing and sending a paper (will be done by me) >>>>> - prepare local ambassadors with the talking points (will be done by >>>>> me) >>>>> - attend the conference and distribute your Fedora business cards (eat >>>>> good food too :) ) >>>>> - if our paper is selected by the chair, the ambassador will give a >>>>> brief introduction about Fedora&FEL >>>>> >>>>> You may find other publications, screenshots and presentations on [3]. >>>>> >>>>> I believe that FEL should be sending papers to technical conferences >>>>> around the world. These papers will describe our opensource EDA >>>>> solutions and Fedora's key features eventually. >>>>> >>>>> If you are aware of such conferences in your locality, please let me >>>>> know :) >>>>> >>>>> [1]: http://www.icecs2009.org/ >>>>> [2]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList#Africa >>>>> [3]: http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> Chitlesh >>>>> http://clunixchit.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> M'BAREK Med Nihed, >>>> Analyst Revenue Assurance Tunisie Telecom >>>> http://www.nihed.com >>>> Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northern Africa >>>> PUB ? 1024D/9E2FFB76 Date 2009/02/14 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Chiheb CHABCHOUB >>> Security Engineer at Satec Tunisia >>> Fedora Ambassador, TUNISIA, Northen Africa >>> _______ >>> GPG Key : gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 5E0CCFA0 >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Zied Fakhfakh >> Dot TN - CTO >> Tel: +216 71 82 89 58 >> Fax: +216 71 88 61 12 >> http://www.dottn.com >> Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 >> Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis >> Tunisia > > > > -- > Zied Fakhfakh > Dot TN - CTO > Tel: +216 71 82 89 58 > Fax: +216 71 88 61 12 > http://www.dottn.com > Centre Molka, Esc E, Bur 17 > Manar 2 - 2092 - Tunis > Tunisia > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > From chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com Tue May 19 10:03:31 2009 From: chitlesh.goorah at gmail.com (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:03:31 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] IEEE International Conference in Tunisia In-Reply-To: <436bc6ca0905190014j4b1aadbcy9264f9c19817eafa@mail.gmail.com> References: <50baabb30905070255r12676346y2927508fa696d522@mail.gmail.com> <5bddd8fd0905070347y38d00a45g42acd7b57d56f095@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905090021r3755151dt4116d9890a8f4790@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905190014j4b1aadbcy9264f9c19817eafa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <50baabb30905190303u33f2a705g48ae62402d2dfdae@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > Hi, > > is there anything we need to prepare here in Tunisia for this event ? > You most probably should prepare a suit and a tie. :) Yep the dress code is not geeky. I heard that those IEEE events are high-class. Chitlesh From leandro.cesar at gmail.com Tue May 19 11:04:45 2009 From: leandro.cesar at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Leandro_M=2E_C=E9sar?=) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 08:04:45 -0300 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=5BAmbassadors=5D_Migra=E7=E3o_de_Software_Livre?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <124ec400905190404o51ff8c28y9c2137dd1941dd3f@mail.gmail.com> Ol? Jos?. Eu j? fiz migra??es em hospitais e etc. Como embaixador eu sinceramente nao sei como se deve portar, mas como profissional que usa Fedora, posso te orientar. Abra?os. L. 2009/5/15 Jos? Roberto Colombo Junior : > Ol? a todos, a prefeitura de Ilha Solteira quer fazer a migra??o de OS para > linux. Como devo proceder? J? conversei com uma das pessoas que coordenam o > projeto. A minha principal pergunta ?: Eu como embaixador Fedora devo e > posso fazer o que? O que eu posso conseguir para incentivar o uso do Fedora > aqui? > PS: s?o cerca de 700 m?quinas. > > Abra?os. > > -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > Jos? Roberto Colombo J?nior - Eletrical Engineer - Linux User > IEEE # ?90408028 - Communications Manager - Ramo Estudantil IEEE de Ilha > Solteira > Brazilian Fedora Ambassador > Phone: +55 17-97448897 > E-mail: joseroberto at ieee.org - Skype: jose.roberto.colombo.junior > Msn: jose.roberto.colombo.junior at hotmail.com > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Joseroberto > http://www.ieee.org/unesp-ilha > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Leandro M. C?sar leandro.cesar at gmail.com () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments From anderson.to at gmail.com Tue May 19 11:14:12 2009 From: anderson.to at gmail.com (Anderson Menezes) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 08:14:12 -0300 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=5BAmbassadors=5D_Migra=E7=E3o_de_Software_Livre?= In-Reply-To: <124ec400905190404o51ff8c28y9c2137dd1941dd3f@mail.gmail.com> References: <124ec400905190404o51ff8c28y9c2137dd1941dd3f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <15a10e4c0905190414k78e55d77pbceded16424b2ea@mail.gmail.com> Olha, Fizemos isso no Minist?rio P?blico do Tocantins, com embaixador eu me portei mostrando as qualidades da distro mas claro dando oportunidade para testes das outras distribui??es. na Revista Fedora nr 03 tem como argumentamos sobre o Fedora ? o prq da sua escolha. Anderson Menezes 2009/5/19 Leandro M. C?sar > Ol? Jos?. > > Eu j? fiz migra??es em hospitais e etc. > > Como embaixador eu sinceramente nao sei como se deve portar, mas como > profissional que usa Fedora, posso te orientar. > > Abra?os. > > L. > > 2009/5/15 Jos? Roberto Colombo Junior : > > Ol? a todos, a prefeitura de Ilha Solteira quer fazer a migra??o de OS > para > > linux. Como devo proceder? J? conversei com uma das pessoas que coordenam > o > > projeto. A minha principal pergunta ?: Eu como embaixador Fedora devo e > > posso fazer o que? O que eu posso conseguir para incentivar o uso do > Fedora > > aqui? > > PS: s?o cerca de 700 m?quinas. > > > > Abra?os. > > > > -- > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > Jos? Roberto Colombo J?nior - Eletrical Engineer - Linux User > > IEEE # 90408028 - Communications Manager - Ramo Estudantil IEEE de Ilha > > Solteira > > Brazilian Fedora Ambassador > > Phone: +55 17-97448897 > > E-mail: joseroberto at ieee.org - Skype: jose.roberto.colombo.junior > > Msn: jose.roberto.colombo.junior at hotmail.com > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Joseroberto > > http://www.ieee.org/unesp-ilha > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > -- > Leandro M. 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Ning?n delito se entiende por esto. ------------------------------------------------------------- Apologies, But you are conversing on an English speaking list. Would it be more suited to one of the latam lists? No offence is meant by this. Frank -- msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List Still Learning, Unicode where possible From anderson.to at gmail.com Tue May 19 11:52:34 2009 From: anderson.to at gmail.com (Anderson Menezes) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 08:52:34 -0300 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=5BAmbassadors=5D_Migra=E7=E3o_de_Software_Livre?= In-Reply-To: <4A12983C.3060700@gmail.com> References: <124ec400905190404o51ff8c28y9c2137dd1941dd3f@mail.gmail.com> <15a10e4c0905190414k78e55d77pbceded16424b2ea@mail.gmail.com> <4A12983C.3060700@gmail.com> Message-ID: <15a10e4c0905190452ic756e5v5d0589d373717d5f@mail.gmail.com> You have every right to respond does not offend me to the group that was responding! Anderson Menezes 2009/5/19 Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) > Anderson Menezes wrote: > >> Olha, >> >> Fizemos isso no Minist?rio P?blico do Tocantins, com embaixador eu me >> portei mostrando as qualidades da distro mas claro dando oportunidade para >> testes das outras distribui??es. na Revista Fedora nr 03 tem como >> argumentamos sobre o Fedora ? o prq da sua escolha. >> >> Anderson Menezes >> > > Google-Translate > > Disculpas, > Pero usted est? conversando sobre una lista principalmente de habla Ingl?s. > ?Ser?a m?s apropiado para una de las listas de LATAM? > > Ning?n delito se entiende por esto. > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > Apologies, > But you are conversing on an English speaking list. > Would it be more suited to one of the latam lists? > > No offence is meant by this. > > Frank > > > > -- > msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d > Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List > Still Learning, Unicode where possible > > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Anderson Menezes User Linux n? 360107 Consultoria em Redes Corporativas 63 ? 9226-0757 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaa at redhat.com Tue May 19 14:06:49 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:06:49 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 11 Podcast #4 - KMS with Adam Jackson Message-ID: <4A12BCF9.7070108@redhat.com> Kernel Mode Setting with Adam Jackson For the fourth podcast in our Fedora 11 podcast series, we turn to the magic that is our display system. One of the coolest new features in Fedora 11 is the ability to do kernel based mode setting for the display. Kernel mode setting [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KernelModesetting] allows the kernel to set certain parameters for the display and moves this functionality out of the X server itself and out of user space. This enables cool things such as quicker graphical boot up and fancier eye candy. For more information I caught up with Fedora X and diaplay guru Adam Jackson. Adam is a lifer on the X scene and knows more about displays than you, I and probably he himself want to know. Kernel Mode Setting with Adam Jackson [http://jack.fedorapeople.org/Kernel%20Mode%20Setting%20-%20Adam%20Jackson.ogg] In the interview, Adam talks about the hidden underbelly of Linux and X graphics and displays and how previous version of Fedora may, or may not have been able to trigger seizures. Adam also expands the possible inclusion of a kernel crash screen of death (yes it comes with flaming eyes), how collaborating with other distros and upstreams has helped him achieve great things and how that helps others, and finally, about the upcoming Boston area concert calendar. From jbenedictlow at gmail.com Tue May 19 14:50:39 2009 From: jbenedictlow at gmail.com (Jason Benedict Low) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:50:39 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 11 Podcast #4 - KMS with Adam Jackson In-Reply-To: <4A12BCF9.7070108@redhat.com> References: <4A12BCF9.7070108@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4A12C73F.7060106@gmail.com> Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Kernel Mode Setting with Adam Jackson > > For the fourth podcast in our Fedora 11 podcast series, we turn to the > magic that is our display system. One of the coolest new features in > Fedora 11 is the ability to do kernel based mode setting for the > display. Kernel mode setting > [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KernelModesetting] allows the > kernel to set certain parameters for the display and moves this > functionality out of the X server itself and out of user space. This > enables cool things such as quicker graphical boot up and fancier eye > candy. For more information I caught up with Fedora X and diaplay guru > Adam Jackson. Adam is a lifer on the X scene and knows more about > displays than you, I and probably he himself want to know. > > Kernel Mode Setting with Adam Jackson > [http://jack.fedorapeople.org/Kernel%20Mode%20Setting%20-%20Adam%20Jackson.ogg] > > > In the interview, Adam talks about the hidden underbelly of Linux and > X graphics and displays and how previous version of Fedora may, or may > not have been able to trigger seizures. Adam also expands the > possible inclusion of a kernel crash screen of death (yes it comes > with flaming eyes), how collaborating with other distros and > upstreams has helped him achieve great things and how that helps > others, and finally, about the upcoming Boston area concert calendar. Thanks. Very nice. -- Best Regards, Jason Singapore Fedora Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jason_Benedict_Low VoIP = sip:jasonbenedict at fedoraproject.org ------ When i work nobody care. When i rest everybody stare. ------ From jbenedictlow at gmail.com Tue May 19 14:53:03 2009 From: jbenedictlow at gmail.com (Jason Benedict Low) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:53:03 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Why desktop Linux Sucks In-Reply-To: <4A120C09.2060504@nerdshack.com> References: <4A120C09.2060504@nerdshack.com> Message-ID: <4A12C7CF.9000003@gmail.com> Satyajit wrote: > Hi all, > > I came across this video by cris and bryan: > http://lunduke.com/?p=429 > They did have a few valid points.. > You can pick up the slides here: > http://lunduke.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/linux-sucks.odp > A few areas they spoke were bringing a unified standard for packaging, > single multimedia system and a few more. This is Nice. Yes, Unified standard in all Linux distro and conbine effort will be nice. -- Best Regards, Jason Singapore Fedora Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Jason_Benedict_Low VoIP = sip:jasonbenedict at fedoraproject.org ------ When i work nobody care. When i rest everybody stare. ------ From inode0 at gmail.com Tue May 19 15:18:38 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:18:38 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Why desktop Linux Sucks In-Reply-To: <4A12C7CF.9000003@gmail.com> References: <4A120C09.2060504@nerdshack.com> <4A12C7CF.9000003@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Jason Benedict Low wrote: > Satyajit wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> ? ?I came across this video by cris and bryan: >> http://lunduke.com/?p=429 >> They did have a few valid points.. >> You can pick up the slides here: >> http://lunduke.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/linux-sucks.odp >> A few areas they spoke were bringing a unified standard for packaging, >> single multimedia system and a few more. > > This is Nice. Yes, Unified standard in all Linux distro and conbine effort > will be nice. While I admit I won't watch these guys based on my personal history with them, I am not an advocate of mass standardization. One of the reasons the open source world thrives and innovates is the lack of constraints. You have a good idea, run with it and prove it. If you do, people will start using it and we all benefit from the innovation. The competition of ideas and the ability to create your own small experiment and watch it grow is a good environment for us to work in. It does create some mayhem, but I believe the advantages far outweigh the disadvantages. John From karlie_robinson at webpath.net Tue May 19 15:19:56 2009 From: karlie_robinson at webpath.net (Karlie Robinson) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:19:56 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora at the Rochester Institute of Technology Message-ID: <4A12CE1C.1090309@webpath.net> I hope to get my SSH updated and most of the images uploaded to Fedora People sometime soon, but I wanted to share these two photos the images are CC non commercial attribution share a like by Jon Sanger a student in the class. Thanks to Brian Powell sending shirts! fedoragccis.jpg (JPEG Image, 1000x744 pixels) fedoragccis2.jpg (JPEG Image, 1000x619 pixels) From herson at azneita.org Tue May 19 15:33:41 2009 From: herson at azneita.org (Heherson Pagcaliwagan) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:33:41 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora at the Rochester Institute of Technology In-Reply-To: <4A12CE1C.1090309@webpath.net> References: <4A12CE1C.1090309@webpath.net> Message-ID: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Karlie Robinson < karlie_robinson at webpath.net> wrote: > I hope to get my SSH updated and most of the images uploaded to Fedora > People sometime soon, but I wanted to share these two photos the images are > CC non commercial attribution share a like by Jon Sanger a student in the > class. > Thanks to Brian Powell sending shirts! > > fedoragccis.jpg (JPEG Image, 1000x744 pixels) < > http://on-disk.com/cms/data/files//fedoragccis.jpg> > > fedoragccis2.jpg (JPEG Image, 1000x619 pixels) < > http://on-disk.com/cms/data/files//fedoragccis2.jpg> > And those are nice looking shirts too! BTW, are those OLPCs just on loan for the photoshoot or are they part of the loot? I just have to ask. ;) > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Heherson Pagcaliwagan http://www.azneita.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My best regards. 2009/5/19 Chitlesh GOORAH > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: > > Hi, > > > > is there anything we need to prepare here in Tunisia for this event ? > > > > You most probably should prepare a suit and a tie. :) Yep the dress > code is not geeky. I heard that those IEEE events are high-class. > > Chitlesh > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Jos? 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I just have to ask. ;) Fedora provided those OLPCs (which OLPC provided to Fedora) to RIT, and RIT is going to have classes that do development work on various OLPC/Sugar Labs initiatives, such as currently math4. So effectively they are loaned to the students for a semester and then return to RIT, who will loan them out to the next set of students. From karlie_robinson at webpath.net Tue May 19 15:40:51 2009 From: karlie_robinson at webpath.net (Karlie Robinson) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:40:51 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora at the Rochester Institute of Technology In-Reply-To: References: <4A12CE1C.1090309@webpath.net> Message-ID: <4A12D303.3010604@webpath.net> Heherson Pagcaliwagan wrote: > > And those are nice looking shirts too! > BTW, are those OLPCs just on loan for the photoshoot or are they part > of the loot? I just have to ask. ;) > The XO-1 were donated to RIT by the Fedora North American Ambassadors to work on GregDeK's 4th Grade Math Initiative. We received 100 XOs from OLPC. More info about Math4Team is at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Math4Team/RIT From stickster at gmail.com Tue May 19 16:41:44 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:41:44 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Why desktop Linux Sucks In-Reply-To: References: <4A120C09.2060504@nerdshack.com> <4A12C7CF.9000003@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090519164144.GL2271@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:18:38AM -0500, inode0 wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Jason Benedict Low > wrote: > > Satyajit wrote: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> ? ?I came across this video by cris and bryan: > >> http://lunduke.com/?p=429 > >> They did have a few valid points.. > >> You can pick up the slides here: > >> http://lunduke.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/linux-sucks.odp > >> A few areas they spoke were bringing a unified standard for packaging, > >> single multimedia system and a few more. > > > > This is Nice. Yes, Unified standard in all Linux distro and conbine effort > > will be nice. > > While I admit I won't watch these guys based on my personal history > with them, I am not an advocate of mass standardization. One of the > reasons the open source world thrives and innovates is the lack of > constraints. You have a good idea, run with it and prove it. If you > do, people will start using it and we all benefit from the innovation. > The competition of ideas and the ability to create your own small > experiment and watch it grow is a good environment for us to work in. > It does create some mayhem, but I believe the advantages far outweigh > the disadvantages. Interesting refutation from Adam Williamson: http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/05/15/packaging-standards-again/ -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From any0n3 at fedoraproject.org Tue May 19 17:42:04 2009 From: any0n3 at fedoraproject.org (Michael Spahn) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 19:42:04 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading Message-ID: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> Hello Ambassadors, a way to spreading fedora to users with slow connection. My idea is the user search a local Ambassador and send him a usb stick and attach the postage to send the stick back. And the Ambassador can easy create the USB stick with the liveusb-creator :). And a little paper with the architecture and the gui gnome/kde. This way is very cheap for the fedoraproject and a simple way for the user. Only a little idea :). With regards, any0n3 From affix at FedoraProject.org Tue May 19 18:11:24 2009 From: affix at FedoraProject.org (Keiran Smith) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 19:11:24 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey Michael, I really like your idea :). However this can be very costly to us Unless we can get a sponsorship from a manufacturer. On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Michael Spahn wrote: > Hello Ambassadors, > a way to spreading fedora to users with slow connection. > My idea is the user search a local Ambassador and send him a usb stick and > attach the postage to send the stick back. > And the Ambassador can easy create the USB stick with the liveusb-creator > :). > And a little paper with the architecture and the gui gnome/kde. > This way is very cheap for the fedoraproject and a simple way for the user. > Only a little idea :). > With regards, > any0n3 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Keiran Smith - Fedora Ambassador / BugZapper - - Free Software Foundation Associate - - http://keiran-smith.net - Call me on +44 (0) 131 208 4347 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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However this can be very costly to us Unless we > can get a sponsorship from a manufacturer. > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Michael Spahn > wrote: >> >> Hello Ambassadors, >> a way to spreading fedora to users with slow connection. >> My idea is the user search a local Ambassador and send him a usb stick and >> attach the postage to send the stick back. >> And the Ambassador can easy create the USB stick with the liveusb-creator >> :). >> And a little paper with the architecture ?and the gui gnome/kde. >> This way is very cheap for the fedoraproject and a simple way for the >> user. >> Only a little idea :). >> With regards, >> any0n3 >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > -- > Keiran Smith > - Fedora Ambassador / BugZapper - > - Free Software Foundation Associate - > - http://keiran-smith.net > - Call me on +44 (0) 131 208 4347 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com --------------------------------------------------------- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue May 19 18:23:52 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:23:52 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> Message-ID: >> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Michael Spahn >> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Ambassadors, >>> a way to spreading fedora to users with slow connection. >>> My idea is the user search a local Ambassador and send him a usb stick and >>> attach the postage to send the stick back. >>> And the Ambassador can easy create the USB stick with the liveusb-creator >>> :). >>> And a little paper with the architecture ?and the gui gnome/kde. >>> This way is very cheap for the fedoraproject and a simple way for the >>> user. >>> Only a little idea :). >>> With regards, >>> any0n3 >>> > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Keiran Smith wrote: >> Hey Michael, >> I really like your idea :). However this can be very costly to us Unless we >> can get a sponsorship from a manufacturer. >> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Adam Miller wrote: > The user is to buy a USB stick, mail it to an ambassador. The > ambassador then puts fedora on the USB stick and mails it back. (As > Michael originally said) > > Why do we need a manufacturer? > > -Adam I could go for this idea. It's a cheap way for someone to get Fedora. For about $2 we could get a Fedora USB stick to a person without internet access. It'd be nice to put the updates on there too as a repository or something. Cheers, Clint From maxamillion at gmail.com Tue May 19 18:25:54 2009 From: maxamillion at gmail.com (Adam Miller) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:25:54 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> Message-ID: The updates might be slightly more difficult unless we partitioned it out some how ... but then we'd even have to edit the live image in order to add the usb stick as a repository. -Adam -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com --------------------------------------------------------- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments From chaoskiller at elysianaura.com Tue May 19 18:28:16 2009 From: chaoskiller at elysianaura.com (ChaosKiller) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:28:16 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A12FA40.5080008@elysianaura.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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However this can be very costly to us Unless we >> can get a sponsorship from a manufacturer. >> >> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Michael Spahn >> wrote: >> >>> Hello Ambassadors, >>> a way to spreading fedora to users with slow connection. >>> My idea is the user search a local Ambassador and send him a usb stick and >>> attach the postage to send the stick back. >>> And the Ambassador can easy create the USB stick with the liveusb-creator >>> :). >>> And a little paper with the architecture and the gui gnome/kde. >>> This way is very cheap for the fedoraproject and a simple way for the >>> user. >>> Only a little idea :). >>> With regards, >>> any0n3 >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >> >> -- >> Keiran Smith >> - Fedora Ambassador / BugZapper - >> - Free Software Foundation Associate - >> - http://keiran-smith.net >> - Call me on +44 (0) 131 208 4347 >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> > > > > We need no manufacturer. For us are it only a few minutes work and free of costs. And nearly everyone have an USB- Stick :). And the user have to pay the postage only. Simple and easy for everyone :). with regards, any0n3 From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue May 19 18:31:38 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:31:38 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Adam Miller wrote: > The updates might be slightly more difficult unless we partitioned it > out some how ... but then we'd even have to edit the live image in > order to add the usb stick as a repository. > > -Adam > Actually, It'd be pretty simple since the livecd-creator is non-destructive. I am betting that putting the updates on the disk (as a local repo all set up and ready to go) would take an extra hour at most (mainly for copying data). The only trick is to make sure the usb stick has enough room on it, maybe we require that any USBs sent be at least 4GB? Clint From maxamillion at gmail.com Tue May 19 18:33:50 2009 From: maxamillion at gmail.com (Adam Miller) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 13:33:50 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> Message-ID: Selling USB sticks that are Fedora branded I think to be more in the scope of https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store -Adam -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com --------------------------------------------------------- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments From chaoskiller at elysianaura.com Tue May 19 18:36:22 2009 From: chaoskiller at elysianaura.com (ChaosKiller) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:36:22 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A12FC26.1080204@elysianaura.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(As > Michael originally said) > > Why do we need a manufacturer? > > -Adam > > On-disk.com is already doing this http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/cPath/280/products_id/714 From any0n3 at fedoraproject.org Tue May 19 18:42:44 2009 From: any0n3 at fedoraproject.org (Michael Spahn) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:42:44 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: <4A12FD2E.1090608@webpath.net> References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> <4A12FD2E.1090608@webpath.net> Message-ID: <4A12FDA4.9020007@gmail.com> Karlie Robinson wrote: > > > Adam Miller wrote: >> The user is to buy a USB stick, mail it to an ambassador. The >> ambassador then puts fedora on the USB stick and mails it back. (As >> Michael originally said) >> >> Why do we need a manufacturer? >> >> -Adam >> >> > On-disk.com is already doing this > http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/cPath/280/products_id/714 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > But for 10$, i think we can offer a service for free =). Only the postages, nothing else. :) From jeanfrancisahanda at yahoo.fr Tue May 19 18:59:12 2009 From: jeanfrancisahanda at yahoo.fr (jean-francis Ahanda) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:59:12 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: <4A12FDA4.9020007@gmail.com> References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> <4A12FD2E.1090608@webpath.net> <4A12FDA4.9020007@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A130180.20405@yahoo.fr> I'm sur this will have a lot of success in Cameroon, will try to get someone like an ISP as a sponsor and make maybe 200. Jean-Francis Michael Spahn a ?crit : > Karlie Robinson wrote: >> >> >> Adam Miller wrote: >>> The user is to buy a USB stick, mail it to an ambassador. The >>> ambassador then puts fedora on the USB stick and mails it back. (As >>> Michael originally said) >>> >>> Why do we need a manufacturer? >>> >>> -Adam >>> >>> >> On-disk.com is already doing this >> http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/cPath/280/products_id/714 >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > But for 10$, i think we can offer a service for free =). > Only the postages, nothing else. :) > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From adimania at gmail.com Tue May 19 20:16:12 2009 From: adimania at gmail.com (Aditya Patawari) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 01:46:12 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> Message-ID: <21f311fd0905191316j1a84ad08rf8940c6709169c97@mail.gmail.com> Its, no doubt, a superb idea. I think we can really start it, though I don't see any need of sponsor here. On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Michael Spahn wrote: > Hello Ambassadors, > a way to spreading fedora to users with slow connection. > My idea is the user search a local Ambassador and send him a usb stick and > attach the postage to send the stick back. > And the Ambassador can easy create the USB stick with the liveusb-creator > :). > And a little paper with the architecture and the gui gnome/kde. > This way is very cheap for the fedoraproject and a simple way for the user. > Only a little idea :). > With regards, > any0n3 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- Aditya Patawari Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra, Ranchi, Jharkhand, India -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I think we can really start it, though I > don't see any need of sponsor here. > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Michael Spahn > > wrote: > > Hello Ambassadors, > a way to spreading fedora to users with slow connection. > My idea is the user search a local Ambassador and send him a usb > stick and attach the postage to send the stick back. > And the Ambassador can easy create the USB stick with the > liveusb-creator :). > And a little paper with the architecture and the gui gnome/kde. > This way is very cheap for the fedoraproject and a simple way for > the user. > Only a little idea :). > With regards, > any0n3 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Aditya Patawari > Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra, Ranchi, Jharkhand, India > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > I think this too. But we have to talk to the fedoraproject web team, we need a wiki site and a link on the "get fedora" page. But we need a ok from all ambassadors :). Or a list of 1 Ambassador in a country. I would like to do this in germany. With regards, any0n3 From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Tue May 19 20:53:08 2009 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:53:08 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: <4A12FA40.5080008@elysianaura.com> References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> <4A12FA40.5080008@elysianaura.com> Message-ID: <1242766388.2930.75.camel@localhost.localdomain> Am Dienstag, den 19.05.2009, 20:28 +0200 schrieb ChaosKiller: > Hi all, > > I agree with the idea. It would also be great if it would be possible > to sell 2/4 GB usb sticks with fedora preloaded on it for 15 euro's or > so. This with a nice fedora logo on it :) We already discussed that once, but I have to admit I have no idea if something actually happened. Does anybody recall? Who was the one that wanted to take of the sticks? Regards, Christoph From chaoskiller at elysianaura.com Tue May 19 20:59:41 2009 From: chaoskiller at elysianaura.com (ChaosKiller) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:59:41 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: <1242766388.2930.75.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> <4A12FA40.5080008@elysianaura.com> <1242766388.2930.75.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A131DBD.1030209@elysianaura.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Tue May 19 22:07:39 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 18:07:39 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: <4A131DBD.1030209@elysianaura.com> References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> <4A12FA40.5080008@elysianaura.com> <1242766388.2930.75.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A131DBD.1030209@elysianaura.com> Message-ID: Christoph Wickert schreef: Am Dienstag, den 19.05.2009, 20:28 +0200 schrieb ChaosKiller: Hi all, I agree with the idea. It would also be great if it would be possible to sell 2/4 GB usb sticks with fedora preloaded on it for 15 euro's or so. This with a nice fedora logo on it :) We already discussed that once, but I have to admit I have no idea if something actually happened. Does anybody recall? Who was the one that wanted to take of the sticks? Regards, Christoph -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list Hello Everyone, Greetings. :) > A quick search showed this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService/Archive#Fedora_LiveUSB :) I like these logos very nice, indeed. :) > The image is a nice idea how to create the artwork on the usb stick. Sadly I couldn't find more about this. During the latest APAC chat, one ambassador inquired on having a live USB burner (or something like that,) during media distribution. A wonderful comment made after our scheduled chat by John (inode0) was to ask the people to "bring" their own USB sticks in order to have the content updated. :) Taking John's idea forward, I have "opted" to suggest that my people "bring" their own USB sticks and I have a Fedora sticker as well as button to give away and discuss the new versions which the USB media is burning...for those without a USB stick, I have the pre-print media to give away. :) May be something extrapolated upon these lines would be useful for us who are doing distributions and have limited funding to work within as "food for thought." Sort of does the "eco" thing if you know what I mean. :v) Please have a great day! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey = Fedora Project's Japan Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey = -- -ChaosKiller ChaosKiller at ElysianAura.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Tue May 19 22:15:00 2009 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 00:15:00 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: <4A131DBD.1030209@elysianaura.com> References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> <4A12FA40.5080008@elysianaura.com> <1242766388.2930.75.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A131DBD.1030209@elysianaura.com> Message-ID: <1242771300.2930.80.camel@localhost.localdomain> Am Dienstag, den 19.05.2009, 22:59 +0200 schrieb ChaosKiller: > A quick search showed this page: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService/Archive#Fedora_LiveUSB There's also https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/USBStickCreationKit https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxDay/LinuxDay2008#Fedora_USB_Stick_kit I recall we talked about this in preparation of an event (Linuxtag 2008?). Somebody contacted a vendor to order to get USB Sticks with Fedora logo, but I have no idea who it was. Would this person please speak up? Regards, Christoph From makghosh at gmail.com Tue May 19 22:26:34 2009 From: makghosh at gmail.com (Arindam Ghosh) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 03:56:34 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] dgplug FAD report (was B.C Roy Engineering College FAD report) Message-ID: <8990327d0905191526g79cab3b0n77709334174d03a3@mail.gmail.com> Hi all On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 2:13 PM, kishan goyal wrote: > Here is the completed events page[1] . > > My report : [2] & [3] > > Rtnpro's report : [4] & [5] > > > Pics can also be found at [6] > > [1]https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DGPLUG_FAD_2009 > [2] http://honeyinveins.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/dgplug-fad-1/ > [3] http://honeyinveins.wordpress.com/2009/05/16/dgplug-fad-2/ > [4] http://ratnadeepdebnath.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/dgplug-fedora-activity-day-day-1-14-may-2009/ > [5] http://ratnadeepdebnath.wordpress.com/2009/05/16/day-2-dgplug-fedora-activity-day-2009/ > [6] http://picasaweb.google.com/makghosh/DGPLUGFAD > Here's my review/report of the Fedora Activity Day that was organized by dgplug @ BCREC, Durgapur on May 14-15, 2009. http://arindamghosh.wordpress.com/2009/05/19/dgplug-fad/ And also updated the event page with all the event reports and photos http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DGPLUG_FAD_2009 It was a follow up event of a Fedora InstallFest (that we had on Jan 30, 2009) and went on quite well http://honeyinveins.wordpress.com/2009/02/05/install-fest-bcrec/ --best Arindam -- Arindam Ghosh [http://arindamghosh.wordpress.com] GPG Key: 0EE58920 Key Server: http://pgp.mit.edu From snow.open.ski at gmail.com Wed May 20 01:24:23 2009 From: snow.open.ski at gmail.com (Will) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 21:24:23 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: <4A131BA1.7090503@gmail.com> References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> <21f311fd0905191316j1a84ad08rf8940c6709169c97@mail.gmail.com> <4A131BA1.7090503@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A135BC7.10402@gmail.com> Michael Spahn wrote: > Aditya Patawari schrieb: >> Its, no doubt, a superb idea. I think we can really start it, though >> I don't see any need of sponsor here. >> >> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Michael Spahn >> > wrote: >> >> Hello Ambassadors, >> a way to spreading fedora to users with slow connection. >> My idea is the user search a local Ambassador and send him a usb >> stick and attach the postage to send the stick back. >> And the Ambassador can easy create the USB stick with the >> liveusb-creator :). >> And a little paper with the architecture and the gui gnome/kde. >> This way is very cheap for the fedoraproject and a simple way for >> the user. >> Only a little idea :). >> With regards, >> any0n3 >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Aditya Patawari >> Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra, Ranchi, Jharkhand, India >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > I think this too. > But we have to talk to the fedoraproject web team, we need a wiki site > and a link on the "get fedora" page. > But we need a ok from all ambassadors :). > Or a list of 1 Ambassador in a country. > I would like to do this in germany. > With regards, > any0n3 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > I would have no problem handling it for all of central and northern NY. That is Syracuse and north, and maybe to the rochester areas, but there are a couple ambassadors out that way that could handle that if they wanted. Will Morris From edh.drake at gmail.com Wed May 20 03:19:27 2009 From: edh.drake at gmail.com (Elijah Hanson) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 04:19:27 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: <4A135BC7.10402@gmail.com> References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> <21f311fd0905191316j1a84ad08rf8940c6709169c97@mail.gmail.com> <4A131BA1.7090503@gmail.com> <4A135BC7.10402@gmail.com> Message-ID: Its a nice idea but real problem lies on the effectiveness of such a plan.All the same I think it will be great;) On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Will wrote: > Michael Spahn wrote: > >> Aditya Patawari schrieb: >> >>> Its, no doubt, a superb idea. I think we can really start it, though I >>> don't see any need of sponsor here. >>> >>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Michael Spahn < >>> any0n3 at fedoraproject.org > wrote: >>> >>> Hello Ambassadors, >>> a way to spreading fedora to users with slow connection. >>> My idea is the user search a local Ambassador and send him a usb >>> stick and attach the postage to send the stick back. >>> And the Ambassador can easy create the USB stick with the >>> liveusb-creator :). >>> And a little paper with the architecture and the gui gnome/kde. >>> This way is very cheap for the fedoraproject and a simple way for >>> the user. >>> Only a little idea :). >>> With regards, >>> any0n3 >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Aditya Patawari >>> Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra, Ranchi, Jharkhand, India >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> I think this too. >> But we have to talk to the fedoraproject web team, we need a wiki site and >> a link on the "get fedora" page. >> But we need a ok from all ambassadors :). >> Or a list of 1 Ambassador in a country. >> I would like to do this in germany. >> With regards, >> any0n3 >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> I would have no problem handling it for all of central and northern NY. > That is Syracuse and north, and maybe to the rochester areas, but there are > a couple ambassadors out that way that could handle that if they wanted. > > Will Morris > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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While attendance has increased this > quarter which is really great to see it seems that no one was very > happy with the alternating Tuesday and Thursday meetings. The vote was > overwhelmingly in favor of meeting on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of each > month beginning in June. > > See you all on F11 release day at the usual time in the usual place! > > John > I respectfully request a recount and that my vote should count as 1 more than everyone else's combined. :) Okay, Okay. I'm sad to see it still on Tuesday, I guess I'll participate by proxy. Sounds like it's a good day to be meeting. Cheers, Clint From inode0 at gmail.com Wed May 20 05:01:09 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 00:01:09 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Summary from 2009-05-19 Message-ID: * Announcements - Voting for new FAmNA meeting schedule complete and the winning time is the 1st & 3rd Tuesday of each month in a landslide * Events [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents] - djf_jeff has to deal with rescheduling F11 release party in Qu?bec to avoid it being a pre-release party now - ke4qqq reported on SELF and the after-SELF FAD - dthomasdigital inquired about funding prospects for the New Mexico LinuxFest, some discussion followed about creating a wiki page with information about an event and documenting there what funds are needed for and how they are being spent * Budget Review [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget] - dthomasdigital updated us on the status of case badges, should be available for Q2 events - davdunc updated us on the status of Fedora tattoos, 20k delivered, 10k each of two designs, pictures posted to the planet * Tasks [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks] - no report * Open Floor - djf_jeff reported about his work with the FreeMedia program in Canada - More talk of tattoos and the New Mexico LinuxFest I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight. From inode0 at gmail.com Wed May 20 05:02:09 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 00:02:09 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2009-05-19 Message-ID: (08:00:08 PM) inode0: FAmNA Meeting - Roll Call any way you like (08:00:16 PM) StabbyMc: .fas smcbrien (08:00:17 PM) zodbot: StabbyMc: smcbrien '' (08:00:31 PM) davdunc: David Duncan dduncan at rubackedup.com (08:00:37 PM) djf_jeff: .wikilink jfsaucier (08:00:39 PM) zodbot: djf_jeff: [[User:jfsaucier|Jean-Francois Saucier]] (08:01:07 PM) laubersm: .wikilink laubersm (08:01:09 PM) zodbot: laubersm: [[User:laubersm|Susan Lauber]] (08:01:11 PM) Grantbow: .fas Grantbow (08:01:12 PM) zodbot: Grantbow: grantbow 'Grant Bowman' (08:01:34 PM) VileGent: .fas jbwillia (08:01:35 PM) zodbot: VileGent: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' - jbwilliams 'Jason Williams' (08:01:40 PM) crossbytes: kevin higgins fas:crossbytes (08:03:55 PM) inode0: anyone else here for the FAmNA meeting? ajamison5579? lcafiero? ke4qqq? (08:04:06 PM) VileGent: .wikilink jbwillia (08:04:07 PM) zodbot: VileGent: [[User:jbwillia|Ben Williams]] (08:04:08 PM) ajamison5579: I am here (08:04:19 PM) inode0: .fas ajamison5579 (08:04:21 PM) zodbot: inode0: ajamison 'Andrew Jamison' (08:04:29 PM) ajamison5579: ajamison (08:04:34 PM) ajamison5579: is what you want to .fas (08:04:41 PM) inode0: why? :) (08:04:56 PM) ajamison5579: ajamison was taken when i registered my nick (08:04:58 PM) ajamison5579: lol (08:05:14 PM) inode0: ok, it searches nicks now too (08:05:26 PM) inode0: alrighty, let's begin (08:05:36 PM) inode0: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-05-19 (08:05:57 PM) inode0: Ok if we just vote on meeting times and get that out of the way? (08:06:14 PM) StabbyMc: hit it. (08:06:21 PM) inode0: For those not attending last time ... (08:06:37 PM) inode0: We are setting a new schedule beginning in June for our meetings (08:06:52 PM) inode0: If you did *not* vote last meeting please do this time (08:07:04 PM) inode0: First choice ... (08:07:23 PM) inode0: (a) Continue as now alternating Tuesdays and Thursdays (08:07:53 PM) inode0: (b) Meet 1st and 3rd *day on the month (might be either Tuesday or Thursday) (08:08:52 PM) inode0: so (b) is that we meet on the same day (we'll select the day if this option wins) (08:09:23 PM) inode0: we have a 0-0 tie now - anyone want to break it? (08:10:03 PM) StabbyMc: I would, but I already voted :-( (08:10:39 PM) inode0: no one cares? (08:10:49 PM) inode0: is the question clear? (08:11:00 PM) inode0: is anyone still here besides me and StabbyMc? (08:11:02 PM) laubersm: q is clear - it makes no difference to me.. (08:11:09 PM) VileGent: yes (08:11:28 PM) VileGent: but i voted last meeting (08:11:31 PM) crossbytes: we (08:11:36 PM) crossbytes: already voted (08:11:37 PM) StabbyMc: Looks like the result of our last vote reigns supreme. (08:11:45 PM) davdunc: It works for me either way. (08:11:48 PM) inode0: ok, I guess no one wants to vote who hasn't so we'll proceed (08:11:51 PM) Grantbow: either way for me (08:12:15 PM) inode0: the vote last time suggested it will be the 1st and 3rd Tuesday going forward then (08:12:25 PM) inode0: I'll send out an announcement after the meeting (08:12:40 PM) inode0: Announcements? (08:12:53 PM) ***ke4qqq is here but late sorry (08:13:14 PM) inode0: shall we let ke4qqq vote? :) (08:14:00 PM) inode0: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents (08:14:14 PM) inode0: Any event owners need help with anything? (08:14:33 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: ping (08:14:47 PM) djf_jeff: pong (08:14:57 PM) inode0: your release party has an issue I think (08:15:07 PM) djf_jeff: not for the moment ;) (08:15:16 PM) inode0: can it be rescheduled for after the release? (08:15:37 PM) djf_jeff: it goes well, many people to come, poster finished (I will post them on mailing list tomorrow) (08:15:55 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: are you aware the release was pushed back a week? (08:15:59 PM) VileGent: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-May/msg00007.html (08:16:26 PM) djf_jeff: hmm, nope, ok, I have a problem now... (08:16:32 PM) Grantbow: ouch (08:17:10 PM) inode0: it is safer to leave a couple weeks for slippage, but it is guesswork (08:17:45 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: let us know if we can do anything to help (08:17:57 PM) djf_jeff: yeah, but we had the Red Hat guy in the city for this date, I guess I will have to do some work (08:18:16 PM) inode0: which Red Hat guy? (08:18:47 PM) djf_jeff: Richard Cabana, Eric Schaffer and Michael Lessard (08:19:01 PM) inode0: pre-release party! (08:19:15 PM) djf_jeff: hehe (08:19:28 PM) inode0: I have some F10 media for you :) (08:19:41 PM) StabbyMc: djf_jeff: are they from the RH Toronto office? (08:20:07 PM) djf_jeff: I will try to push the date, I am sure I will be able to do so (08:20:11 PM) djf_jeff: Montreal Office (08:20:26 PM) inode0: Other events? (08:20:37 PM) ***StabbyMc didn't know there was a Montreal office... (08:21:23 PM) inode0: still no date for FAD F12 (08:22:23 PM) inode0: Were event owners supposed to have some requests tonight or was that for the next meeting? (08:22:51 PM) inode0: Budget requests? (08:22:54 PM) StabbyMc: Do we have any events around June 13 related to SELF? (08:23:05 PM) inode0: FAD on June 14 (08:23:18 PM) inode0: ke4qqq: want to talk about SELF? (08:24:03 PM) ***herlo is lurking...but not really here (08:24:57 PM) ke4qqq: sure (08:25:02 PM) ke4qqq: SELF is June 13th (08:25:10 PM) ke4qqq: lots of really cool people are coming and so should you (08:25:18 PM) ke4qqq: http://southeastlinuxfest.org (08:25:25 PM) ke4qqq: we have 3 fedora speakers (08:25:43 PM) ke4qqq: including our own gregdek, stickster_afk, and herlo (08:26:30 PM) ke4qqq: It's being held in South Carolina (08:26:40 PM) ke4qqq: so I expect people like StabbyMc will make it :) (08:26:48 PM) ke4qqq: eof (08:26:55 PM) ***StabbyMc stabs ke4qqq (08:26:58 PM) ajamison5579: where is that held exactly? (08:27:10 PM) StabbyMc: Clemson, South Carolina (08:27:13 PM) ke4qqq: Clemson University, Clemson, SC (08:27:17 PM) inode0: VileGent is going? (08:27:17 PM) ke4qqq: just outside of Greenville (08:27:23 PM) VileGent: yes (08:27:31 PM) inode0: so lots of ambassadors (08:27:47 PM) inode0: is there a FAD sign-up page yet? (08:28:11 PM) ke4qqq: there is a SELF sign-up page (08:28:19 PM) ke4qqq: but haven't had a chance to hit the fad sign up page yet (08:28:22 PM) ke4qqq: speaking of (08:28:23 PM) VileGent: and i have heard that some people from Va Tech and NovaLUG are attending (08:28:24 PM) ke4qqq: there is a docs fad (08:28:30 PM) ke4qqq: outstanding (08:28:37 PM) ke4qqq: we REALLY need help getting the word out (08:28:51 PM) ke4qqq: so if you are in the SE, please start talking about us (08:28:55 PM) StabbyMc: I've been talking it up at ALE (Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts), another meeting Thursday. (08:28:55 PM) ajamison5579: i grew up an hour south of Virginia tech (08:29:50 PM) inode0: ke4qqq: in case you run off before we do budget do you need anything for SELF? (08:30:05 PM) ke4qqq: no (08:30:08 PM) ke4qqq: we are set for SELF (08:30:12 PM) ke4qqq: aside from F11 media (08:30:19 PM) ke4qqq: which is largely out of our control (08:30:23 PM) inode0: we will cross our fingers on that one (08:30:33 PM) dthomasdigital: Wish I was set for NMlinuxfest and sure wish I could make it to SELF (08:31:42 PM) inode0: Anyone here from the Open Source Bridge? (08:31:48 PM) ke4qqq: dthomasdigital: an FSF staffer tells me that Airtran has cheap flights to ATL (08:34:09 PM) inode0: ok, let's go to budget (08:34:21 PM) inode0: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget (08:34:33 PM) inode0: still the lame lack of information as last time :( (08:34:45 PM) ianweller: woo meeting (08:34:45 PM) ***ianweller lurks (08:35:09 PM) inode0: we really need people who spend money to update this page as details become known about how much we spend (08:36:02 PM) StabbyMc: What's the word on pens, tats, and case badges? (08:36:05 PM) inode0: davdunc: dthomasdigital: please fill in final numbers for your orders although don't worry about the estimates we have there (08:36:15 PM) davdunc: thanks. (08:36:17 PM) davdunc: will do. (08:36:42 PM) inode0: but modify the description too to reflect what was actually ordered please (08:37:20 PM) dthomasdigital: inode0 will there be any money for NM LinuxFest in November? (08:37:22 PM) inode0: max send his version of the budget which was, well, somewhat different as usual (08:38:02 PM) inode0: dthomasdigital: you'll need to make a specific request (08:38:36 PM) crossbytes: will case badges be available for order at https://fedorahosted.org/famnarequests/? (08:38:44 PM) dthomasdigital: inode0 is there an official form? or contact? (08:38:59 PM) inode0: we can talk about that I guess (08:39:08 PM) inode0: crossbytes: I don't know, I doubt it though (08:39:18 PM) crossbytes: ok (08:39:22 PM) dthomasdigital: Also I have the exact amount for the case badges should I list that or should Max? (08:39:30 PM) inode0: crossbytes: we'll likely include some in ambassador kits and use them at events (08:39:59 PM) inode0: dthomasdigital: you should, max keeps separate numbers (08:40:11 PM) dthomasdigital: inode0 gotcha (08:40:31 PM) inode0: so there is not a form or anything else about making requests for funds (08:40:41 PM) inode0: perhaps there should be (08:40:55 PM) dthomasdigital: So I just request here? (08:41:10 PM) inode0: or a wiki page for the event with expenses and other information we can look at (08:41:44 PM) dthomasdigital: I will make that request thanks (08:41:55 PM) inode0: we want to (a) have something to base fund grants on and (b) have transparency about what we spend the money on (08:42:33 PM) dthomasdigital: I'm hopping for 500.00 to secure the venue (08:42:34 PM) ke4qqq: right - and we want to see what you spend moneyon, so if you have to fly herlo out, and it costs 300 bucks, we want to see that as a line item. (08:42:34 PM) inode0: stickster_afk keeps a spreadsheet of sorts on the wiki for FUDcons, you might look at that (08:42:54 PM) dthomasdigital: Understood thanks (08:43:22 PM) inode0: if you want general sponsorship I think that request can come any time (actually the sooner the better) (08:44:02 PM) inode0: because we can theoretically handle event sponsorship out of any quarter's budget (08:44:21 PM) dthomasdigital: Here is our sponsor Prospectus http://nmlinuxfest.ning.com/page/sponsor-prospectus (08:45:08 PM) inode0: we want the crappy booth location at the front door of the expo hall :) (08:45:17 PM) ajamison5579: lol (08:45:29 PM) ke4qqq: lol (08:45:38 PM) dthomasdigital: I was thinking by the bathrooms lol (08:45:59 PM) VileGent: near but not right next to please (08:46:06 PM) dthomasdigital: I was put there at a show once turned out as the best location. (08:46:10 PM) inode0: so I personally think sponsoring this would be great and I will support that (08:46:41 PM) inode0: it would be nice to be able to say something about what presence Fedora will have though before doing so (08:47:08 PM) inode0: who is planning to go? is anyone planning a FAD there? (08:47:21 PM) inode0: are there any Fedora speakers? (08:48:29 PM) ***lcafiero sneaks into the back of the room and sits down (08:48:54 PM) inode0: given that we will be having a good presence at the event I'm happy to push to fund sponsorship in Q2 even (08:50:07 PM) dthomasdigital: I'm going to make sure Fedora is well supported (08:50:11 PM) inode0: lcafiero: we skipped over OSB but I'd like to go back if you have anything to say about it since it is coming up soon (08:50:52 PM) dthomasdigital: I've been so very happy with all the support fedora has given us in New Mexico I'm really hoping to make some real in roads. (08:52:33 PM) inode0: well, want to fill us in now on case badges since that came up? (08:52:34 PM) lcafiero: inode: nothing to add re OSB. (08:53:35 PM) dthomasdigital: Case badge proofs should have been here today but where not, sent for the tracking number (08:54:14 PM) dthomasdigital: as soon as I see a proof I'll give the OK for the run, they say that should take about a day then about 3 days to ship (08:54:38 PM) inode0: but we would expect them before the end of the month which is great, can get them off to Q2 events (08:55:43 PM) inode0: davdunc: want to fill us in on the exciting news about massive tattoo supplies? :) (08:55:53 PM) davdunc: sure! (08:56:14 PM) davdunc: I ordered 10,000 of the 1.5 x 1.5 in tattoos and they look lovely! (08:56:23 PM) dthomasdigital: Yes before the end of the month for sure (08:56:35 PM) inode0: those being the regular talk bubble logo? (08:56:42 PM) davdunc: correct. (08:57:03 PM) davdunc: I also ordered 5k of the "empowered by Fedora" at 1.5 x 2 inches. (08:57:18 PM) davdunc: but they got the order wrong and we have 10k of those now too. (08:57:33 PM) davdunc: so 20,000 tattoos to disperse in all. (08:57:38 PM) lcafiero: woo hoo (08:57:46 PM) inode0: we will use them without any problem (08:57:53 PM) davdunc: My wife is wearing one right now. (08:57:59 PM) dthomasdigital: case badges 5000 units (08:57:59 PM) inode0: how do you like the empowered by tattoos? (08:58:20 PM) davdunc: I love it. My wife has rather dark skin and even the small lettering is easy to read. (08:58:33 PM) ***inode0 can't wait to see them (08:58:45 PM) ke4qqq: pics!!! show the world that we now have ink to display our love for fedora! (08:59:13 PM) davdunc: the color is good. they left the larger white field transparent, but they got the logo white on both. (08:59:16 PM) davdunc: they look great. (08:59:27 PM) VileGent: davdunc, pics please (08:59:48 PM) davdunc: k. I will post them to the ambassador list in a few minutes. (08:59:48 PM) ***inode0 senses excitement in the room (08:59:53 PM) davdunc: :-) (09:00:09 PM) ke4qqq: links of course (09:00:18 PM) ke4qqq: and to the plant? (09:00:20 PM) ke4qqq: planet (09:00:24 PM) davdunc: of course. I am a text-only kind of emailer. (09:00:29 PM) inode0: so, those can be shipped off to Q2 events as well ... if you need them soon ping me (09:00:34 PM) davdunc: yea. better to put them on planet. (09:00:55 PM) davdunc: they are coming to you UPS inode0 (09:01:12 PM) inode0: right, send me the bill for the shipping too davdunc (09:01:19 PM) davdunc: kk. will do. (09:02:16 PM) inode0: StabbyMc: so no word on pens (09:02:17 PM) Grantbow: This was a fun first meeting, thank you. I have to run to www.balug.org and give away some F11 Live CDs. Take care. (09:02:34 PM) inode0: thanks for coming Grantbow (09:03:35 PM) lcafiero: See you Grantbow (09:03:36 PM) inode0: Let's go to Open Floor (09:03:53 PM) ***inode0 steps away for 3 minutes (09:04:44 PM) ***lcameron hears crickets (09:05:11 PM) ***ianweller doesn't and think lcameron should get his hearing checked (09:05:13 PM) ***lcafiero wanted to introduce Grantbow since he's the new addition to the California crew. (09:05:27 PM) ianweller: lcameron: ;) (09:05:32 PM) lcafiero: no, ianweller, I hear them too. (09:05:37 PM) djf_jeff: For my part, Freemedia Canada is going strong, we have shipped ~15 cd/dvd in the last week and I have "recruited" a member on the team (I think he was already shipping cd before the creation of Canada branch) (09:06:14 PM) djf_jeff: also, I have invited him to join the Canada Ambassadors to grow our presence, he will think about and come back to me soon (09:06:25 PM) lcafiero: Great, djf_jeff (09:07:30 PM) djf_jeff: do you include a message with the CD you send with Freemedia? (09:08:35 PM) VileGent: djf_jeff, i only check to see if they want the re-spin (09:08:39 PM) djf_jeff: I have made a small sheet saying to join us in #fedora for a talk and where to get help if needed (09:10:26 PM) inode0: I think that is nice djf_jeff (09:10:31 PM) lcafiero: Good addition (09:11:09 PM) inode0: davdunc: are the tattoos on a roll or individually cut? (09:11:51 PM) davdunc: individually cut. (09:11:55 PM) inode0: sweet (09:12:06 PM) ***inode0 has a suggestion (09:12:39 PM) inode0: at events you can take a tattoo with you but only if you have one applied in a visible location at the event (09:12:51 PM) ke4qqq: davdunc: I desperately need some Sonic Overnighted - can you set it up as a dell replacement part?? (09:13:16 PM) davdunc: ke4qqq: You have a four-hour contract? (09:13:18 PM) davdunc: :-D (09:13:24 PM) ke4qqq: davdunc: several (09:13:53 PM) davdunc: I'll see what I can do. ;-) (09:14:08 PM) davdunc: the tattoo FRU! (09:14:16 PM) ke4qqq: indeed! (09:14:56 PM) VileGent: lol i would say what i need but i rather not (09:15:27 PM) VileGent: SG335 shuttle motherboard (09:16:22 PM) inode0: http://blog.mrtomlinux.org/index.php?post/HowTo-run-a-successful-IP (09:16:28 PM) ***davdunc just took a round of pretty crappy pictures. another minute. (09:19:00 PM) ***inode0 doesn't want to close the meeting without pictures (09:19:46 PM) VileGent: but it will be 30 minutes before the planet updates correct (09:20:00 PM) dthomasdigital: inode0 about NM Sponsorship can I add the info on my fedora wiki page or should it be elsewhere? (09:20:36 PM) inode0: attach it to the event page or create one for it (09:21:13 PM) dthomasdigital: understood (09:21:42 PM) inode0: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConF11 (09:22:03 PM) inode0: there is an example, and the Budget link might be a model for us as well (09:22:57 PM) lcafiero: dthomasdigital, I will probably be going to NM, but I'd prefer someone closer handle the FAD. (09:23:02 PM) dthomasdigital: I'll stick to this format so we have some kind of a template to work off of. (09:23:15 PM) davdunc: putting one up on flickr now. (09:23:26 PM) dthomasdigital: lcafiero I'm lining up some folks just for that (09:23:51 PM) inode0: we should snag smooge if possible (09:24:32 PM) inode0: I'll talk to him about a FAD when I bump into him next (09:24:43 PM) dthomasdigital: smooge would be perfect (09:25:57 PM) lcafiero: dthomasdigital/inode0 great. (09:26:07 PM) davdunc: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davdunc/3547797738/ is after 28 hours. (09:26:46 PM) lcafiero: oooOOOOoooooh! (09:26:53 PM) lcameron: I want 1 (09:27:19 PM) davdunc: I hope you _all_ get them very soon in your ambassador kits. :-) (09:27:22 PM) lcafiero: +1 (09:27:39 PM) lcafiero: They may never make it out of the event box (09:27:59 PM) ***lcafiero wants to make himself look like a Maori with tattoos all over his face. :-) (09:28:16 PM) davdunc: I put all of the 1.5 inch in the mail. (09:28:23 PM) ke4qqq: to me? (09:28:32 PM) inode0: lcafiero: you get 50 for that but we need pictures! (09:28:32 PM) davdunc: ;-) to inode0 (09:28:49 PM) lcafiero: Heh. (09:29:01 PM) davdunc: the 1.5 inch ones are going to be perfect for the face. (09:29:34 PM) lcafiero: Someone else did this for a show -- I can't remember who (and I think it was MacWorld) -- and people were lining up around the block for them. (09:30:48 PM) VileGent: i know that firefox has done them (09:31:17 PM) VileGent: davdunc, they look good especially after that time length (09:31:32 PM) ke4qqq: thats awesome davdunc !!! (09:31:49 PM) davdunc: I think so. My wife is an avid gardener, so that's after working in the yard and the sun all day today. (09:32:17 PM) davdunc: I put one up that I applied just now, but I can't seem to hold still for the camera. (09:33:25 PM) inode0: I have some old BSD tattoos from many years ago (09:39:31 PM) inode0: ok, I think we should wrap this up and head back to #fedora-ambassador (09:39:38 PM) inode0: thanks for coming everyone (09:39:44 PM) inode0: 5 (09:39:46 PM) inode0: 4 (09:39:48 PM) inode0: 3 (09:39:49 PM) dthomasdigital: bye all (09:39:51 PM) inode0: 2 (09:39:54 PM) inode0: 1 (09:39:58 PM) inode0: EOM From electromech at electromech.info Wed May 20 10:57:31 2009 From: electromech at electromech.info (Nilesh J. Vaghela) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 16:27:31 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> <21f311fd0905191316j1a84ad08rf8940c6709169c97@mail.gmail.com> <4A131BA1.7090503@gmail.com> <4A135BC7.10402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A13E21B.5080403@electromech.info> My opinion is. We should not offer a h/w product because it includes warranty issue. We can offer service. ( Bring USB stick and we will load live Fedora at free. ) Elijah Hanson wrote: > Its a nice idea but real problem lies on the effectiveness of such a > plan.All the same I think it will be great;) > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Will > wrote: > > Michael Spahn wrote: > > Aditya Patawari schrieb: > > Its, no doubt, a superb idea. I think we can really start > it, though I don't see any need of sponsor here. > -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner Ahmedabad: 404,Maulik Arcad,Nr. Mansi cross Road,Satellite Rd Baroda : 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj www.electromech.info From gerold at lugd.org Wed May 20 06:18:02 2009 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 08:18:02 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: <4A13E21B.5080403@electromech.info> References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> <21f311fd0905191316j1a84ad08rf8940c6709169c97@mail.gmail.com> <4A131BA1.7090503@gmail.com> <4A135BC7.10402@gmail.com> <4A13E21B.5080403@electromech.info> Message-ID: > My opinion is. > > We should not offer a h/w product because it includes warranty issue. ^^ the warranty is guaranteed by the supplier; not by us! One issue is maybe: Who takes care for assembling and repacking for "sale & shipping"; tht's imho a logistical problem, we can't solve as community :-( > > We can offer service. ( Bring USB stick and we will load live Fedora at > free. ) ^^ +1 anytime, everywhere > > Elijah Hanson wrote: >> Its a nice idea but real problem lies on the effectiveness of such a >> plan.All the same I think it will be great;) >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Will > > wrote: >> >> Michael Spahn wrote: >> >> Aditya Patawari schrieb: >> >> Its, no doubt, a superb idea. I think we can really start >> it, though I don't see any need of sponsor here. >> Regards Gerold From frankly3d at gmail.com Wed May 20 06:35:27 2009 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 07:35:27 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A13A4AF.5030502@gmail.com> Michael Spahn wrote: > Hello Ambassadors, > a way to spreading fedora to users with slow connection. > My idea is the user search a local Ambassador and send him a usb stick > and attach the postage to send the stick back. Technical Q? Would any of the scanning equipment in Post office Depos, wipe the content of the Stick? Frank -- msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List Still Learning, Unicode where possible From chaoskiller at elysianaura.com Wed May 20 06:49:24 2009 From: chaoskiller at elysianaura.com (Chaoskiller) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 08:49:24 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading Message-ID: <66d494057f6d9b9219c91cd0715cf7f7@145.24.133.96> --------- Original Message -------- From: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading Date: May 20, 2009 04:36 PM > Michael Spahn wrote: > > Hello Ambassadors, > > a way to spreading fedora to users with slow connection. > > My idea is the user search a local Ambassador and send him a usb stick > > and attach the postage to send the stick back. > > Technical Q? > Would any of the scanning equipment in Post office Depos, > wipe the content of the Stick? > > Frank > > -- > msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d > Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List > Still Learning, Unicode where possible > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > This should not be the case. Especially since other distro's (Mandriva: http://store.mandriva.com/product_info.php?products_id=407) are doing the same thing. Also other usb sticks are being shipped with content. Scanning packages is done with lasers just like at a supermarket, it's not a magnetic field. Mandriva does have a nice feature, if you plug it in windows you can open firefox and thunderbird with all settings. Might be nice if something like that can be done. Sent to you using Uebimiau Webmail version 3.11 Developed by Dave and Todd at http://www.manvel.net and http://www.tdah.us From vkarthik90 at gmail.com Wed May 20 07:37:07 2009 From: vkarthik90 at gmail.com (vk) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:07:07 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: USB Stick spreading Message-ID: <885857840905200037v2d90b459k9618dbe4a7cde046@mail.gmail.com> Netbeans is also doing something similar Karthik SASTRA University, Thanjavur India http://blogofvk.blogspot.com/ On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:30 AM, wrote: > Send Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-ambassadors-list-request at redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-ambassadors-list-owner at redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-ambassadors-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: USB Stick spreading (Karlie Robinson) > 2. Re: USB Stick spreading (Michael Spahn) > 3. Re: USB Stick spreading (jean-francis Ahanda) > 4. Re: USB Stick spreading (Aditya Patawari) > 5. Re: USB Stick spreading (Michael Spahn) > 6. Re: USB Stick spreading (Christoph Wickert) > 7. Re: USB Stick spreading (ChaosKiller) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:40:46 -0400 > From: Karlie Robinson > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <4A12FD2E.1090608 at webpath.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > Adam Miller wrote: > > The user is to buy a USB stick, mail it to an ambassador. The > > ambassador then puts fedora on the USB stick and mails it back. (As > > Michael originally said) > > > > Why do we need a manufacturer? > > > > -Adam > > > > > On-disk.com is already doing this > http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/cPath/280/products_id/714 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:42:44 +0200 > From: Michael Spahn > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <4A12FDA4.9020007 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Karlie Robinson wrote: > > > > > > Adam Miller wrote: > >> The user is to buy a USB stick, mail it to an ambassador. The > >> ambassador then puts fedora on the USB stick and mails it back. (As > >> Michael originally said) > >> > >> Why do we need a manufacturer? > >> > >> -Adam > >> > >> > > On-disk.com is already doing this > > http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/cPath/280/products_id/714 > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > But for 10$, i think we can offer a service for free =). > Only the postages, nothing else. :) > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:59:12 +0200 > From: jean-francis Ahanda > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <4A130180.20405 at yahoo.fr> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I'm sur this will have a lot of success in Cameroon, will try to get > someone like an ISP as a sponsor and make maybe 200. > > Jean-Francis > > > Michael Spahn a ?crit : > > Karlie Robinson wrote: > >> > >> > >> Adam Miller wrote: > >>> The user is to buy a USB stick, mail it to an ambassador. The > >>> ambassador then puts fedora on the USB stick and mails it back. (As > >>> Michael originally said) > >>> > >>> Why do we need a manufacturer? > >>> > >>> -Adam > >>> > >>> > >> On-disk.com is already doing this > >> http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/cPath/280/products_id/714 > >> > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > > But for 10$, i think we can offer a service for free =). > > Only the postages, nothing else. :) > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 01:46:12 +0530 > From: Aditya Patawari > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > <21f311fd0905191316j1a84ad08rf8940c6709169c97 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Its, no doubt, a superb idea. I think we can really start it, though I > don't > see any need of sponsor here. > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Michael Spahn >wrote: > > > Hello Ambassadors, > > a way to spreading fedora to users with slow connection. > > My idea is the user search a local Ambassador and send him a usb stick > and > > attach the postage to send the stick back. > > And the Ambassador can easy create the USB stick with the liveusb-creator > > :). > > And a little paper with the architecture and the gui gnome/kde. > > This way is very cheap for the fedoraproject and a simple way for the > user. > > Only a little idea :). > > With regards, > > any0n3 > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > -- > Aditya Patawari > Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra, Ranchi, Jharkhand, India > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/20090520/d07ab967/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:50:41 +0200 > From: Michael Spahn > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <4A131BA1.7090503 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Aditya Patawari schrieb: > > Its, no doubt, a superb idea. I think we can really start it, though I > > don't see any need of sponsor here. > > > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Michael Spahn > > > wrote: > > > > Hello Ambassadors, > > a way to spreading fedora to users with slow connection. > > My idea is the user search a local Ambassador and send him a usb > > stick and attach the postage to send the stick back. > > And the Ambassador can easy create the USB stick with the > > liveusb-creator :). > > And a little paper with the architecture and the gui gnome/kde. > > This way is very cheap for the fedoraproject and a simple way for > > the user. > > Only a little idea :). > > With regards, > > any0n3 > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Aditya Patawari > > Birla Institute of Technology, Mesra, Ranchi, Jharkhand, India > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > I think this too. > But we have to talk to the fedoraproject web team, we need a wiki site > and a link on the "get fedora" page. > But we need a ok from all ambassadors :). > Or a list of 1 Ambassador in a country. > I would like to do this in germany. > With regards, > any0n3 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:53:08 +0200 > From: Christoph Wickert > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <1242766388.2930.75.camel at localhost.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Am Dienstag, den 19.05.2009, 20:28 +0200 schrieb ChaosKiller: > > Hi all, > > > > I agree with the idea. It would also be great if it would be possible > > to sell 2/4 GB usb sticks with fedora preloaded on it for 15 euro's or > > so. This with a nice fedora logo on it :) > > We already discussed that once, but I have to admit I have no idea if > something actually happened. Does anybody recall? Who was the one that > wanted to take of the sticks? > > Regards, > Christoph > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:59:41 +0200 > From: ChaosKiller > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <4A131DBD.1030209 at elysianaura.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/20090519/bbdce7d7/attachment.html > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: logo.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 36380 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/20090519/bbdce7d7/logo.jpg > > ------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > End of Fedora-ambassadors-list Digest, Vol 50, Issue 8 > ****************************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Wed May 20 07:38:59 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 03:38:59 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: <4A131BA1.7090503@gmail.com> References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> <21f311fd0905191316j1a84ad08rf8940c6709169c97@mail.gmail.com> <4A131BA1.7090503@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Everyone, > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Michael Spahn > > > wrote: > > > > Hello Ambassadors, > > a way to spreading fedora to users with slow connection. > > My idea is the user search a local Ambassador and send him a usb > > stick and attach the postage to send the stick back. > > And the Ambassador can easy create the USB stick with the > > liveusb-creator :). > > And a little paper with the architecture and the gui gnome/kde. > > This way is very cheap for the fedoraproject and a simple way for > > the user. > > Only a little idea :). > > With regards, > > any0n3 With regards to the postage prepaid USB stick sent to the local Ambassador, that sounds like a great idea. :) > I think this too. > But we have to talk to the fedoraproject web team, we need a wiki site > and a link on the "get fedora" page. > But we need a ok from all ambassadors :). > Or a list of 1 Ambassador in a country. > I would like to do this in germany. > With regards, > any0n3 >From what "any0n3" originally wrote, on this idea, I think there is potential if an ambassador has the time to track and to do so. Unfortunately, I do not have that much time available for this effort. :v) Please have a great day! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey = -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Wed May 20 07:40:36 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 09:40:36 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] HowTo run a successful Release Event? Message-ID: Thomas Canniot wrote a *brilliant* blog post that everyone on this list should read. http://blog.mrtomlinux.org/index.php?post/HowTo-run-a-successful-IP --Max From frankly3d at gmail.com Wed May 20 07:51:43 2009 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 08:51:43 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] HowTo run a successful Release Event? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A13B68F.7000805@gmail.com> Max Spevack wrote: > Thomas Canniot wrote a *brilliant* blog post that everyone on this list > should read. > > http://blog.mrtomlinux.org/index.php?post/HowTo-run-a-successful-IP > Maybe this could be linked from the main Ambassador Wiki? Frank -- msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List Still Learning, Unicode where possible From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Wed May 20 08:00:25 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 04:00:25 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] HowTo run a successful Release Event? In-Reply-To: <4A13B68F.7000805@gmail.com> References: <4A13B68F.7000805@gmail.com> Message-ID: > Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 08:51:43 +0100 > From: frankly3d at gmail.com > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] HowTo run a successful Release Event? > Hello Everyone, A very useful and appropriate blog indeed. I like it!!! :) > Max Spevack wrote: > > Thomas Canniot wrote a *brilliant* blog post that everyone on this list > > should read. > > > > http://blog.mrtomlinux.org/index.php?post/HowTo-run-a-successful-IP > > > Maybe this could be linked from the main Ambassador Wiki? > > Frank I strongly think that the blog's content is a definite review for our upcoming release in two weeks. :) Relevant questions from the blog as well as appropriate answers! :) "... What questions you may be asked I have ran some Release Events and stood on booth. The most frequent questions which falls into my ears are the followings: * What is Fedora? I have not heard about it before. * What is the difference between Fedora and the others Linux distro? because, you?re all doing the same thing aren?t you? * Why a 6 months release schedule? It?s so fast, I can?t get use to a release that the new one is already out! The first question is not a tricky one. However, one can easy be trapped by answering the two other questions. Keep in mind to always stick to the Fedora Project objectives. We are not doing the same thing, we are working on Fedora to make the software stronger and enhance its development. That?s why we need a 6 months release schedule. It helps and motivates us a lot to go as fast as possible to improve the user experience through Fedora. ..."' ====================================== I am complementing the above blog url with the following two references for those in need of Fedora 11's good stuff. :) F11 Talking Points - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Talking_Points Release Notes - http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f11preview/en-US/index.html ====================================== Please have a great day! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey = > -- > msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d > Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List > Still Learning, Unicode where possible > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We will evaluate event reports (photos, blog posts etc.), paying attention to the organization (read http://blog.mrtomlinux.org/index.php?post/HowTo-run-a-successful-IP, thanks to Thomas Canniot) and everything that could help your event to be a Fedora Style one. During the next days we will give you more details about it. So, if you haven't think about it yet, this could be an interesting reason. Regards Francesco Ugolini From magie at fedoraproject.org Wed May 20 12:44:09 2009 From: magie at fedoraproject.org (Magie Antonio) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:44:09 +0800 (PHT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors at LinkedIn Message-ID: <18595.10.0.0.4.1242823449.squirrel@mail.bluepoint.com.ph> Hi, Just a quick shout out to those who requested to join the LinkedIn Fedora Ambassadors Group. To make verification easier, please make sure that you are listed at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MembershipService/Verification before sending your request. TIA! Regards, Magie -- Marie Grace Gaffud-Antonio Bluepoint Institute of Higher Technology Foundation http://bluepoint.com.ph/ From ujjwol at fedoraproject.org Wed May 20 13:12:43 2009 From: ujjwol at fedoraproject.org (Ujjwol Lamichhane) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 18:57:43 +0545 Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: References: <4A12EF6C.8090304@gmail.com> <21f311fd0905191316j1a84ad08rf8940c6709169c97@mail.gmail.com> <4A131BA1.7090503@gmail.com> Message-ID: <775aa32d0905200612q4f1bb6bev2463baf1206ffeb1@mail.gmail.com> If fedora live cd and installation could contain live usb creator it would be great for ambassdors... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From tuanta at iwayvietnam.com Thu May 21 01:44:23 2009 From: tuanta at iwayvietnam.com (Truong Anh. Tuan) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:44:23 +0700 (ICT) Subject: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading In-Reply-To: <775aa32d0905200612q4f1bb6bev2463baf1206ffeb1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <25470934.21242870257671.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> It's great. I myself used this to burn USB keys for my family, friends and colleagues. Kind regards, Tuan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ujjwol Lamichhane" To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:12:43 PM GMT +07:00 Bangkok, Hanoi, Jakarta Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] USB Stick spreading If fedora live cd and installation could contain live usb creator it would be great for ambassdors... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Thu May 21 04:05:41 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:35:41 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 11 Media for LUGs in India. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Please have a look and forward this to the LUGs you may be a member of. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-india/2009-May/msg00128.html Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From mspevack at redhat.com Thu May 21 13:42:26 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 15:42:26 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedor Activity Day & EMEA Ambassadors log Message-ID: The log from our discussion last night regarding Fedora Activity Days in general, as well as a bit of EMEA-specific discussion. http://mspevack.fedorapeople.org/logs/2009-05-20-emea-ambassadors.html From jaa at redhat.com Thu May 21 14:34:26 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 10:34:26 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Sound of Fedora 11 - An Interview on Fedora 11's enhanced Audio Control with Lennart Poettering Message-ID: <4A156672.6030908@redhat.com> An Interview on Fedora 11's enhanced Audio Control with Lennart Poettering Where would we be without sound? It's the most primitive of communication methods, and yet it has spawned so much technology around it. Whether you're a musician, a DJ, riding a bus to work, or even just stuck in a cubicle listening to the radio somewhere, sound has become an integral part of your daily experiences. When Fedora 11 lands, along with it will land a number of enhancements to the sound subsystem, including unified volume control, per stream and per device monitoring, and proper Bluetooth audio support. I recently caught up with Lennart Poettering, Red Hat Desktop Team Engineer and resident audio guru. Here's what he had to say about the upcoming improvements and what the future holds: *1. Please introduce yourself and give us a brief intro to how you started working on the upcoming audio improvement in F11.* I am Lennart Poettering and have been working for Red Hat in the Desktop Group for two years now this month. I live in Berlin, Germany. PA has been part of Fedora since F8. Since then we used to ship two volume control appications: the GNOME volume control and a PA (Pulse Audio) specific tool (pavucontrol). The latter was mostly a showcase what can be done with PA and I wrote it mostly as a demo, not because I thought it was any good as an UI. Of course having these two volume control UIs in Fedora was a situation that badly needed fixing. Especially since both UIs exposed too many unnecessary options: the GNOME volume control exposed a lot of low-level hardware-specific features that only a tiny minority of people actually really understood, and the PA volume control exposed a lot of low-level software features that a slightly larger minority of people only actually really understood. Now during the last year we reached a point were the feature set of PA for volume controls became very complete (with such things as arbitrary meta data on every stream/device, per-stream and per-device monitoring, hardware volume range extension, "flat" volumes and lots of other stuff) and Jon McCan with help from Bastien Nocera finally took up the work to fix the UI situation. They basically designed the new UI from scratch with input from usability experts. It implements many of the features the old pavucontrol tool did, but in a much nicer, streamlined way. Also it integrates sound theme/event sound control with general audio configuraton and volume control in a single UI tool. *2. Can you give us some background on the upcoming changes to the audio subsystem in the Fedora 11 Release?* If you want to know more about the Volume Control, I'd just refer to the Feature page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VolumeControl We moved PA 0.9.15 into F11, a nice overview over the new features you can find here: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/oh-nine-fifteen.html However that overview is a bit out-of-date. There are quite a few additional features that went into 0.9.15, most prominently full Bluetooth Audio support: Together with Bastien Nocera and the BlueZ guys I worked to make Bluetooth audio easily accessible -- the bluetooth applet now exposes an easy dialog that allows you to pair and activate a bluetooth headset. After that is done it will automatically appear in PulseAudio. If you need to reactivate it later, you can do that with a simple click in the applet menu. It works surprisingly well. It even works fine for lip-sync video. Which is kind of magic, given that Bluetooth Audio doesn't actually offer any timing interfaces, so syncing up audio with video is not really possible. I spent a lot of time to make sure it does work nonetheless, and it seems to work on the majority of headphones although I cannot say for sure if it does for all of them. *3. Where did the ideas to change all this stuff come from? Didn't audio always work in Fedora?* Depends what you mean by 'work'. Sure, basic audio output worked. But in many ways what we had on Linux was not comparable to what MacOS or Windows supported. And it still isn't in many ways. However in other ways we have now surpassed those competitors. A lot of the changes we introduced with PA are not directly visible to the user. For example the so called 'glitch-free' logic in PA is very important for a modern audio stack, however the normal user will never notice it -- except maybe because when we introduced it initially a lot of driver bugs got exposed that people were not aware of before because that driver functionality (usually timing related) was not really depended on by any application. In fact even now many of the older drivers expose broken timing that makes usage with PA not as much fun as it could be. A more detailed explanation of this 'glitch-free' logic you may find here: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/pulse-glitch-free.html Both Windows Vista and MacOS X have similar g-f logic in their audio stacks, however with PA we brought it to the next step. For example, we implemented this logic in a zero-copy fashion and with arbitrary sample types. This allows us to pass PCM data through our pipelines without ever having to copy/convert it unless we really have to. So yes, as you might have noticed I spend a lot of time to get low-level internals right. And I like to speak about it, even though most people are not aware of all those technical details and how awesome this all is. ;-) That said, this stuff isn't perfect yet and could need more improvements. But it's not all just in the low-level details. Also on higher levels we got inspired by how our competitors do things. For example the new "flat" volume logic was pioneered in Vista, and we have now adopted a similar logic in PA. It's a great way to reduce the complexities of volume control by 'merging' a few of the sliders in the pipeline. It thus solves the "So which slider is now causing my volume to be too low?" a bit. But also here, there's more work to be done. It's not all just getting inspired by our competitors. There are a lot of genuinely new features in PA that none of them have (at least to my knowledge). For example, in PA we have 'spatial' event sounds. I.e. if an event sound sound is triggered by a mouse click/dialog at the left side of the screen the sound is generated more from the left speakers, and similar for the right side. This is of course mostly a toy. But I think a useful one ;-) . Listing all the fancy features PA has would certainly be a bit too much for this interview. So I'll leave it with this... ;-) Generally, we get inspiration from everywhere. And sure, as long as the most basic music playback was enough for you audio did always work in Fedora. But OTOH, when we started with the integration of all of these new audio features into Fedora two years ago the audio stack was still at a point of what was modern in the 90's. With the new features of the new volume control and PA we are working on bringing Linux audio to what is modern today. *4. Can you also give us a comparison of our new audio framework in reference to other audio frameworks and audio subsystem models that are out there?* There are many frameworks out there. On Free Software systems PA doesn't really have any competitor. Some people think that JACK is one, but it actually is not. JACK is clearly focussed on audio production and not very useful on the desktop otherwise. For example, it is strictly designed to provide very low-latency at the price of power consumption. This is the right thing to do for audio production but not on the general desktop. Logic like 'glitch-free' (see above) makes a lot of sense for the usual desktop audio since it allows flexible adjusting of the latency to what is needed. If used properly it can be used to decrease the interrupt rate to 1/s, while still allowing instant reaction to user input. Since most PCs these days are laptops theses kind of power consumption related features are very important. One of the current weaker points of Audio on Linux is that we have this clear separation of JACK for audio production and PA for desktop/embedded. Other operating systems have managed to make this a bit smoother by having a single stack for both. This however actually has both advantages and disadvantages. To improve the situation for now we focussed on making PA and JACK cooperate better. In F11 when JACK needs low-level access to an audio device it will tell PA so and PA will comply and release the device. This should make switching between the two sound systems easier though of course this is no perfect solution. Given the lack of manpower further integration is unlikely to happen anytime soon -- though both the JACK guys and I seem not generally opposed to something like that. Now, if you compare our audio stacks with those of the big other operating systems (Windows and MacOSX), then besides the fact that they usually integrate desktop audio and audio production better than we do (as mentioned) there are many things we are better in and many they are better in. We certainly have more flexibility: i.e. depending on your application you can access audio on a lot of different levels: you can access ALSA directly if you need very low-level control, or via PA for desktop level control. You have APIs like GStreamer for media streaming and so on. This flexibility however translates to more complexity in many ways, and a hodgepodge of API styles. (OTOH Apple's CoreAudio actually isn't as streamlined as many MacOS proponents like us to think.) The documentation for our APIs is usually much worse then theirs. We really need some improvements in that area. Featurewise, PA usually has better networking related features then those counterparts. But there's a lot of features they have right now we lack. Other Unixes, such as FreeBSD and OpenSolaris are still stuck with OSS (Open Sound System) audio. In F11 we finally switched OSS off by default (though you can still reenable it via some minor hackery). OSS was the predecessor of ALSA. Thankfully it is now fully obsolete on Linux. OSS is mostly a design from the early nineties. It has received only minor updating since then. It is no way comparable to what we now have on Linux or even what MacOS or Windows provide. (Although is has some very vocal fans which like to write me hate mails because I say things like this) *5. This work all started in earlier releases dating all the way to even Fedora 8, if I am correct. How has all this stuff progressed and evolved from then? What was done in previous releases that enabled building upon for this release?* Fedora 8 was the first release where we integrated PA. In Fedora 9 we stabilized PA support. In F10 we integrated the 'glitch-free' logic which turned out to be quite a bumpy ride given that it exposed a lot of timing related driver bugs. In F11 g-f has now been made more robust and most of the more modern audio drivers should now be fixed. Also we have now started to push PA support more into the UI, like with this new volume control. *6. What are the plans for the future, if any, in this particular space in the distro?* I am working on multiple things for F12. Firstly there will be a couple of more low-level changes to PA. The core will be made more threaded. Right now, we run most things in one 'main' thread and do low-level audio I/O in one thread for each audio card. My plan for F12 is to split that one 'main' thread up into as many threads as possible. This should make PA more robust for a couple of operations, and make latencies more reliable. Then, I am working on considerably beefing up PA's usage of the low-level hardware volume controls. For example, many cards have seperate low-level volume sliders for "Speaker", "Master", "PCM" (and more) that are in the line from the PCM data we stream to the speakers. PA currently exposes only one of those sliders (usually "Master"). My plan is to 'multiply' those sliders and create a single 'product' virtual slider from them that has a better granularity and a larger range. This rework will also introduce input/output switching and probably more. What has already landed in PA's git repository is support for UPnP A/V. When used in conjunction with Zeeshan Ali's Rygel UPnP MediaServer implementation this allows streaming any application's audio to a any UPnP MediaRenderer (including PS3/Xboxes and all those 'Internet Radio' devices). This is actually pretty neat. Later on we hope to make PA a Media Renderer as as well as a MediaServer. This nicely compliments our current Apple RAOP support. And there's a lot of other things planned. We'll see how much of that will be ready for F12. I don't like to talk too much about upcoming features and planned code if I don't have anything to show yet, so I'll leave it at this. And then there's always a little project of mine that is called 'libsydney' that is intended to be a portable, modern and friendly PCM API. During the last months I focussed more on PA itself though. *7. Do you feel that work like this helps enhance the desktop experience on Linux in general and strengthens the cause of the Linux Desktop, or is it more all in day's work?* I think that PA is the way forward for audio on the Linux desktop. It may have its deficiencies -- but everything has. We still have some way to go, but I believe that a modern audio layer is really important for the Linux Desktop to succeed. And no, it doesn't feel at all in a day's work. It always is a great feeling to see how PA got incorporated into so many distributions and how it is now used by so many people. I am pretty sure that only if you hack on Linux software you get this in this ways. *8. Speaking of all in a days work, what are things do you usually work on? What do you most enjoy doing outside of work.* Red Hat basically hired me to help improving audio on Linux. So that's what I am doing during work. Outside of work spend my time with photopgraphy. And I am trying my best to travel to interesting places as much as I can and my time off allows. Thank you Lennart for an excellent interview, ideas and insight. We look forward to hearing more from you. Get it--hearing more, he works on sound, okay I give up. From mspevack at redhat.com Thu May 21 17:59:50 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 19:59:50 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 11 Release Parties Message-ID: Hi, If you're interested in a Fedora 11 release event, please add your information here, for tracking purposes. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party As in the past, we'll make $100-$200 USD of budget available to help seed the events and give organizers some funding to use at their discretion. It will help tremendously if you are able to be reimbursed via PayPal. Possible ideas for Release Parties: (1) Having a LiveUSB installfest, and having local mirrors so that people can do local network installs. (2) Sponsoring food & drinks at a LUG meeting, and having the "keynote" talk of the night be about Fedora 11, what you do for Fedora, and how others can contribute. (3) If you are in an area with a number of Fedora contributors, get them all together and just have a little troubleshooting session for others, and do some random hacking on stuff, or just enjoy each other's company and revel in the success of a release. (4) Whatever you can imagine. Thanks, Max From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Thu May 21 18:37:06 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 00:07:06 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Triaging Online Vendor and Local Vendor list. Message-ID: Hi, Just as I was checking these[1][2]. These pages are highly outdated. Many does not even exsists anymore. This is high time we need to think of a sustainable way to keep these lists updated. Ideas? Also there is no contact data or contact person for LocalVendor page. Does anyone have this data? Thanks. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/OnlineVendors [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/LocalVendors -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From chaoskiller at elysianaura.com Thu May 21 19:01:05 2009 From: chaoskiller at elysianaura.com (ChaosKiller) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:01:05 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Triaging Online Vendor and Local Vendor list. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A15A4F1.4090605@elysianaura.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You do not have to use the mirror manager example but a simple php scrip (simple for someone versed in php) could check the sites and update the list according to dead links or not. -----Original Message----- From: fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-ambassadors-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of susmit shannigrahi Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:37 PM To: fedora-ambassadors-list Subject: [Ambassadors] Triaging Online Vendor and Local Vendor list. Hi, Just as I was checking these[1][2]. These pages are highly outdated. Many does not even exsists anymore. This is high time we need to think of a sustainable way to keep these lists updated. Ideas? Also there is no contact data or contact person for LocalVendor page. Does anyone have this data? Thanks. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/OnlineVendors [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/LocalVendors -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: 05/21/09 06:22:00 From stickster at gmail.com Thu May 21 23:10:15 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 19:10:15 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Triaging Online Vendor and Local Vendor list. In-Reply-To: <00ad01c9da49$c46c27e0$4d4477a0$@net> References: <00ad01c9da49$c46c27e0$4d4477a0$@net> Message-ID: <20090521231015.GB15785@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 03:24:18PM -0400, Andrew Jamison wrote: > What about adapting mirror manager to work for this? You could setup > a process to verify new vendors then when added to the list they are > required to do some kind of update once a release cycle. The > modified mirror manager could then scan the sites in the list and > check for modified times. > B> You do not have to use the mirror manager example but a simple php > scrip (simple for someone versed in php) could check the sites and > update the list according to dead links or not. This sounds like a fun idea, but in practice it would likely only decrease the pool of vendors. No one wants to jump through hoops to do something they see as giving us a freebie. Having the lists broken down and manually checked by region, if not a perfect solution, at least spreads the load in a way that makes periodic updates easier.x -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From tuanta at iwayvietnam.com Fri May 22 00:37:15 2009 From: tuanta at iwayvietnam.com (Truong Anh. Tuan) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 07:37:15 +0700 (ICT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 11 Release Parties In-Reply-To: <14025496.21242952297526.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Message-ID: <32561080.41242952631113.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Hello Max, I am currently the only one Fedora ambassador in Vietnam but I believe that I can organize the Release Party with support from you (ideas, funding, etc.), other ambassadors (ideas), my colleagues (all my company use Fedora) and my local communities (organizing). I am currently member of HanoiLUG (http://www.hanoilug.org/). I am the most active contributor for Fedora in HanoiLUG, the sponsor/maintainer for Fedora mirror here: http://virror.hanoilug.org/#fedora We organized some similar parties for Ubuntu. Some friends ask me that why we do not have similar party for Fedora. And that's here. I think some ideas could be reused. I will make a schedule for this event and give you later. Please also tell me step by step to get funding. Kind regards, Tuan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Spevack" To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 12:59:50 AM GMT +07:00 Bangkok, Hanoi, Jakarta Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 11 Release Parties Hi, If you're interested in a Fedora 11 release event, please add your information here, for tracking purposes. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party As in the past, we'll make $100-$200 USD of budget available to help seed the events and give organizers some funding to use at their discretion. It will help tremendously if you are able to be reimbursed via PayPal. Possible ideas for Release Parties: (1) Having a LiveUSB installfest, and having local mirrors so that people can do local network installs. (2) Sponsoring food & drinks at a LUG meeting, and having the "keynote" talk of the night be about Fedora 11, what you do for Fedora, and how others can contribute. (3) If you are in an area with a number of Fedora contributors, get them all together and just have a little troubleshooting session for others, and do some random hacking on stuff, or just enjoy each other's company and revel in the success of a release. (4) Whatever you can imagine. Thanks, Max -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From mspevack at redhat.com Fri May 22 01:21:40 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 03:21:40 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 11 Release Parties In-Reply-To: <32561080.41242952631113.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> References: <32561080.41242952631113.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 22 May 2009, Truong Anh. Tuan wrote: > I am currently the only one Fedora ambassador in Vietnam but I believe > that I can organize the Release Party with support from you (ideas, > funding, etc.), other ambassadors (ideas), my colleagues (all my > company use Fedora) and my local communities (organizing). > > I am currently member of HanoiLUG (http://www.hanoilug.org/). I am the > most active contributor for Fedora in HanoiLUG, the sponsor/maintainer > for Fedora mirror here: http://virror.hanoilug.org/#fedora > > We organized some similar parties for Ubuntu. Some friends ask me that > why we do not have similar party for Fedora. And that's here. I think > some ideas could be reused. > > I will make a schedule for this event and give you later. Please also > tell me step by step to get funding. Hi Tuan, I'm really glad to see you excited about making the release party happen. As far as funding, I have a simple question for you, that will make the answer either very simple, or a little bit difficult. Does PayPal exist in Vietnam? And if it does, do you happen to have a PayPal account? If you do, then we can reimburse you via PayPal. If you don't, then we'll figure something else out through our Asia community & marketing guys. --Max From tuanta at iwayvietnam.com Fri May 22 01:40:31 2009 From: tuanta at iwayvietnam.com (Truong Anh. Tuan) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 08:40:31 +0700 (ICT) Subject: [Ambassadors] When should be the good time to mirror Fedora 11? Message-ID: <9237505.61242956418408.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Hello, I wonder when should be the good time to mirror Fedora 11 final release? Since our mirror HDD is not very large, I would like to mirror just the final one and all further updates, not the preview/beta ones. We should wait until the 2nd of June or any time? Thanks, Tuan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <4A169489.1060609@electromech.info> Dear All, I thought let me share you the efforts of people like us and success story , the introduction of open source mainly LINUX is now part of official syllabus of Gujarat 12th standard computer subject. Here are some Q/A with Mr. Harshal Arolkar. Behalf of VGLUG I got chance to have small Q/A with Mr. Harshal Arolkar ( He is a part of committee and played lead role in designing the text book for Gujarat 12 th standard Computer subject ). Due to their team efforts now open source is a part of computer subject in 12th standard in Gujarat. */ Don't you thing this is a great moment for all who are promoting Linux and opens ource and a major step in Gujarat for Open source movement ?? Excited !!! well here are the questions the answers are at http://www.vglug.info/q-with-mr-harshal-arolkar-gujarat-education-board-12-standard-computer-subject-open-source Although after some conversation I added few more questions. Many many Thanks to Mr. Harshal Arolkar. -- Nilesh Vaghela ElectroMech Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner Ahmedabad: 404,Maulik Arcad,Nr. Mansi cross Road,Satellite Rd Baroda : 25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj www.electromech.info From khatri.jatin at gmail.com Fri May 22 08:13:38 2009 From: khatri.jatin at gmail.com (jkhatri) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:43:38 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Gujarat ( INDIA ) introduce open source at 12th standard syllabus with @ 50% weightage. In-Reply-To: <4A169489.1060609@electromech.info> References: <4A169489.1060609@electromech.info> Message-ID: <4A165EB2.2050008@gmail.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saahil.in at gmail.com Fri May 22 09:18:23 2009 From: saahil.in at gmail.com (saahil.in at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:18:23 +0000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Gujarat ( INDIA ) introduce open source at 12th standard syllabus with @ 50% w In-Reply-To: <4A165EB2.2050008@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00163646d64e000e8b046a7cbea7@google.com> jkhatri wrote: > Nilesh J. Vaghela wrote: > Dear > All, > I thought let me share you the efforts of people like us and success > story , the introduction of open source mainly LINUX is now part of > official syllabus of Gujarat 12th standard computer subject. > Here are some Q/A with Mr. Harshal Arolkar. > Behalf of VGLUG I got chance to have small Q/A with Mr. Harshal > Arolkar ( He is a part of committee and played lead role in > designing the text book for Gujarat 12 th standard Computer > subject ). Due to their team efforts now open source is a part of > computer subject in 12th standard in Gujarat. */ > Don't you thing this is a great moment for all who are promoting > Linux and opens ource and a major step in Gujarat for Open source > movement ?? > Excited !!! well here are the questions the answers are at > http://www.vglug.info/q-with-mr-harshal-arolkar-gujarat-education-board-12-standard-computer-subject-open-source > Although after some conversation I added few more questions. > Many many Thanks to Mr. Harshal Arolkar. > wow.... thats great thing .... nice to see that Linux/opensource is > now in school syllabus > Regards & TC This, in fact, can be regarded as one of the major steps forward towards increasing awareness about Open Source philosophy. Most of us, here, know how difficult it is to convince students in their university level education to make use of Open Source technologies, and gain manifold advantages in their daily productivity. Introducing Linux in school syllabus will, hopefully, tend to make the job easier for students pursuing careers in any technological field. Kudos to your efforts, Nilesh. :-) Regards, Saahil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sanjay.ankur at gmail.com Fri May 22 09:24:04 2009 From: sanjay.ankur at gmail.com (Ankur Sinha) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:54:04 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Gujarat ( INDIA ) introduce open source at 12th standard syllabus with @ 50% w In-Reply-To: <00163646d64e000e8b046a7cbea7@google.com> References: <00163646d64e000e8b046a7cbea7@google.com> Message-ID: <1242984244.3304.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 09:18 +0000, saahil.in at gmail.com wrote: > This, in fact, can be regarded as one of the major steps forward > towards increasing awareness about Open Source philosophy. Most of us, > here, know how difficult it is to convince students in their > university level education to make use of Open Source technologies, > and gain manifold advantages in their daily productivity. Introducing > Linux in school syllabus will, hopefully, tend to make the job easier > for students pursuing careers in any technological field. Kudos to > your efforts, Nilesh. :-) > > Regards, > Saahil > -- +1 to that.. Nilesh, could you give a brief outline of how you went about doing this?? We could pick ideas from there to implement in our regions too.. -- regards, Ankur From stickster at gmail.com Fri May 22 11:54:04 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 07:54:04 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] The Sound of Fedora 11 - An Interview on Fedora 11's enhanced Audio Control with Lennart Poettering In-Reply-To: <4A156672.6030908@redhat.com> References: <4A156672.6030908@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090522115404.GE3799@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:34:26AM -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > An Interview on Fedora 11's enhanced Audio Control with Lennart Poettering [...snip...] Please Digg it up! http://digg.com/linux_unix/The_Sound_of_Fedora_11 -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From matt at domsch.com Fri May 22 16:00:40 2009 From: matt at domsch.com (Matt Domsch) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 11:00:40 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] When should be the good time to mirror Fedora 11? In-Reply-To: <9237505.61242956418408.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> References: <9237505.61242956418408.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Message-ID: <20090522160038.GA28886@domsch.com> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 08:40:31AM +0700, Truong Anh. Tuan wrote: > Hello, > > I wonder when should be the good time to mirror Fedora 11 final release? > Since our mirror HDD is not very large, I would like to mirror just the > final one and all further updates, not the preview/beta ones. > > We should wait until the 2nd of June or any time? Waiting, or excluding releases/test/, would suffice. All alpha/beta/preview releases go into releases/test/. Thanks, Matt From matt at domsch.com Fri May 22 16:02:56 2009 From: matt at domsch.com (Matt Domsch) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 11:02:56 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Discovering public mirrors Message-ID: <20090522160256.GB28886@domsch.com> With thanks to this openSUSE blog post: http://vavai.net/2009/05/21/launching-indonesian-opensuse-mirror-repository/ I found 4 additional public mirrors in Indonesia which also carry Fedora content. I added these to Fedora's MirrorManager this morning. I would ask all Ambassadors: if you are using a Fedora public mirror that is not listed in MirrorManager, please let me know. http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/ has the list. Thanks, Matt Fedora Mirror Wrangler From tim at timjcasey.com Fri May 22 16:07:45 2009 From: tim at timjcasey.com (Tim Casey) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 02:07:45 +1000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Aussie ambassadors? Message-ID: I'd like to put a call out for any ambassadors in the land down under (Australia)... I have access to facilities in Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth, (they're basically classrooms, I work for a college and have full support of our IT management to run any fedora events at any of our campuses). Free wi-fi is available at our main campus in Melbourne (thanks to Internode... could also be organised at other locations), I could organise a projector, plus duplication of F11 install media etc, and put on light refreshments. I don't have the time to organise an event on my own, is there anyone else that would like to assist? Tim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From inode0 at gmail.com Fri May 22 18:20:52 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:20:52 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Aussie ambassadors? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Tim Casey wrote: > I'd like to put a call out for any ambassadors in the land down under > (Australia)... > > I have access to facilities in Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth, (they're > basically classrooms, I work for a college and have full support of our IT > management to run any fedora events at any of our campuses).? Free wi-fi is > available at our main campus in Melbourne (thanks to Internode... could also > be organised at other locations), I could organise a projector, plus > duplication of F11 install media etc, and put on light refreshments. > > I don't have the time to organise an event on my own, is there anyone else > that would like to assist? Hey Tim, Take a look at this if you haven't yet. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_-_FAD I'm sure we would all love to see the FAD in Australia. Good luck! John From loupgaroublond at gmail.com Fri May 22 18:29:09 2009 From: loupgaroublond at gmail.com (Yaakov Nemoy) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:29:09 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Possible Upcoming events in Wageningen NL Message-ID: <7f692fec0905221129s4856f41dkf6c94e80c034ce47@mail.gmail.com> Hey List, I want to let you all know about a couple of events we are hoping to plan in Wageningen this summer. As it turns out, we have the highest concentration of Ambassadors (3 of them) in the Netherlands in Wageningen. For a sleepy student town of 35k people, it's quite an accomplishment. (Now only if we could have such a density of Ambassadors in the entire NL...) The first upcoming possibility is a Release Party, the friday after the Fedora 11 release. There are a few options available, but they run along the lines of come to Wageningen and enjoy a couple of beers with us. This could either be, weather permitting in someone's backyard, complete with 100mbit internet, a campfire, and a nice LAN, or perhaps at one of the many nice bars in Wageningen. Free beer is nice, but we've set up similar events in Wageningen before at a very low cost to all. The next event in planning is to set up a Linux booth at one of the fairs in august for the incoming students. This would be a great chance to showcase scientific apps as well as how effective Fedora can be for the university student. Since this is an event supported by students, it's also very low cost, and we'll probably end up doing most of it out of pocket. We'll try to provide up to date respins at the booth, and try to follow it up with another Lan Party / Install Fest. We'll have more details after we can sit down this weekend in person and work out the details. Cheers, Yaakov From loupgaroublond at gmail.com Fri May 22 18:39:20 2009 From: loupgaroublond at gmail.com (Yaakov Nemoy) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 14:39:20 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Possible Upcoming events in Wageningen NL In-Reply-To: <7f692fec0905221129s4856f41dkf6c94e80c034ce47@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f692fec0905221129s4856f41dkf6c94e80c034ce47@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f692fec0905221139y6c726523o978381736a363ab@mail.gmail.com> Correction: The booth would be in conjunction with WURLug. 2009/5/22 Yaakov Nemoy : > Hey List, > > I want to let you all know about a couple of events we are hoping to > plan in Wageningen this summer. ?As it turns out, we have the highest > concentration of Ambassadors (3 of them) in the Netherlands in > Wageningen. For a sleepy student town of 35k people, it's quite an > accomplishment. > > (Now only if we could have such a density of Ambassadors in the entire NL...) > > The first upcoming possibility is a Release Party, the friday after > the Fedora 11 release. There are a few options available, but they run > along the lines of come to Wageningen and enjoy a couple of beers with > us. This could either be, weather permitting in someone's backyard, > complete with 100mbit internet, a campfire, and a nice LAN, or perhaps > at one of the many nice bars in Wageningen. ?Free beer is nice, but > we've set up similar events in Wageningen before at a very low cost to > all. > > The next event in planning is to set up a Linux booth at one of the > fairs in august for the incoming students. This would be a great > chance to showcase scientific apps as well as how effective Fedora can > be for the university student. Since this is an event supported by > students, it's also very low cost, and we'll probably end up doing > most of it out of pocket. ?We'll try to provide up to date respins at > the booth, and try to follow it up with another Lan Party / Install > Fest. > > We'll have more details after we can sit down this weekend in person > and work out the details. > > Cheers, > Yaakov > From jaa at redhat.com Fri May 22 21:35:26 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:35:26 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Draft of Tuesday's News- Virt Interview with Daniel Berrange Message-ID: <4A171A9E.8080504@redhat.com> Below is the the text of the interview, didn't really think about the lead it, but thats trivial... *1. Please introduce yourself and what you do and how you got started working on virtualization.* I'm one of the lead developers for the libvirt project and am actively involved in many related areas of open source development (qemu/kvm, xen, gtk-vnc, virt-manager, to name but a few). I also co-maintain many of these packages in Fedora and RHEL, along with many others in Red Hat's virtualization team. More than three years ago (shortly after transferring into Red Hat's Engineering team, from consulting services) I was working on the OLPC project. We needed a way to easily test the OS images we were building without needing real hardware. As a proof of concept, I hacked up a simple GTK application to run images them under QEMU. At around the same time Daniel Veillard had started the libvirt project and there was a desire for a desktop application to manage Xen using libvirt. So I switched over to the virtualization team, wrote virt-manager for Fedora 6, and my involvement in all areas of open source virtualization grew from there. *2. Many people view the work being done on virtualization as a feature set of major importance and significance. Can you give us a brief overview of some of the changes that we can expect to see in F11? * The open source virtualization development effort is so large now, that it is useful to discuss each stream in turn. At the lowest layer is obviously the Linux kernel & KVM/QEMU. There has been a major acceleration of development in QEMU and push to merge KVM into the official QEMU source repository. There's ever continuing work on performance, stability, scalability & reliability in KVM. PCI device passthrough is one new feature we're highlighting for Fedora 11. The return of Xen Dom0 was not to be, as the Dom0 paravirt_ops merge with the upstream Linux kernel is still an ongoing process. At the middle layer is libvirt, providing a consistent management API across different virtualization technologies. New features in libvirt, since F10, include PCI device passthrough for Xen and KVM, the sVirt security driver using SELinux to protect KVM guests from each other, thread safety of all libvirt APIs, improved scalability, reliability and debugging for the libvirtd daemon and support for SCSI HBAs and copy-on-write volumes in the storage management APIs. The top layer covers end user tools such as virt-install & virt-manager. virt-manager is undergoing a significant (and ongoing) overhaul of its user interface. The first improvements arriving for Fedora 11 are in the guest installation process and storage management capabilities. As guest installation is first task most users try, ensuring this is simple and reliable is key to making a good first impression. Guest desktop interaction is another historical pain point which has been a focus for improvements in Fedora 11. With every release we also try to make a significant step forward in security of the virtualization stack. In Fedora 11 the focus has been on SELinux to protect guests from each other and SASL to authenticate VNC users. *3. There have been some large changes in virt-manager and libvirt, which are at the core of the user experience when it comes to virtualization. Can you talk to use about those some more?* The guest installation process and desktop interaction are the most critical areas for making a good first impression. In the virt-manager re-design the wizard used for installing new guests has been streamlined, cutting out three redundant steps. Where possible, it will automatically detect the type of operating system being installed and choose the best configuration options to optimize for this OS, no longer requiring the user to figure this out for themselves. The installation process now directly utilizes the libvirt storage management APIs to allow easy creation of files in a variety of formats (raw, qcow2, vmdk, etc), allocation of new local disk partitions or LVM volumes and access to LUNs exported by iSCSI targets. This is particularly useful when remotely managing virtualization hosts, allowing regular administrator tasks to be performed from the virt-manager UI without resorting to command line SSH sessions. The mouse pointer has been a constant source of trouble for virtualization management applications. Getting the guest mouse pointer to track the host pointer is essentially impossible with the standard emulated PS/2 mouse. The solution is to provide a pointer device that supports absolute motion events, instead of relative events that the PS/2 mouse provides. For KVM and Xen, this means adding a USB tablet device, but historically Xorg has not been able to automatically configure this correctly. This is resolved with Fedora 11 guests, finally providing a guest pointer that moves in perfect sync with the host, not requiring the pointer to be confined to the guest window. Users with non-US layout keyboards have also had a hard time getting their guests to support input of accented/special characters. The VNC protocol has now been extended to allow the hardware keycodes to be passed directly from the VNC client to the guest OS without any intermediate translation step. This should allow the guest OS complete control over the keyboard layout mapping, without a need for any special settings on the host. The final piece of work was to increase the guest desktop resolution. The real Cirrus video card that QEMU emulates would never have done more than 800x600, but there are tricks that can be done in a virtual world. Thus a simple change to the Xorg cirrus driver allows it to detect that it is using a Cirrus card emulated by QEMU and increase the guest desktop resolution to 1024x768. Still not great by today's standards, but better than before. Longer term plans involve replacing the cirrus driver in QEMU with something more virtualization friendly. *4. Also, as people should take note of, there has been a lot of work done surrounding KVM and getting that well integrated into the whole virtualization setup in Fedora. How has that work been going and has anything significant been done in that area in this release?* Fedora was the first major Linux distribution to integrate KVM back in the Fedora 7 release. It became the default virtualization technology in Fedora 9, when it became clear we could no longer maintain the separate Xen host kernel until it was merged in the upstream Linux kernel. The great benefit of KVM from an distro integration point of view, is that it is there by default in all new Linux kernels. All that was required in Fedora was to turn on the module build and make sure the modules are always loaded when compatible CPUs are found. libvirt and virt-manager have also both supported KVM since it was first added to Fedora. Thus there hasn't been a need for much additional integration work for KVM. The focus has simply been on improving features available to KVM users via libvirt and virt-manager. * 5. Glauber Costa has also done significant work merging KVM and QEMU. Can you explain to us what QEMU is and why the choice was made to merge it with QEMU and how that is of benefit to the user base?* Earlier Fedora releases have have suffered from the divergence of QEMU and KVM code bases. Upstream QEMU has had releases almost 1 year apart, while KVM has been releasing at least once a month, if not more, using snapshots of the QEMU source repository. Thus the features available in QEMU were far behind those available in KVM even though they both shared the same fundamental code base and upstream development stream. It also doubled the work package maintainers had todo for security & bug fixes. Since Fedora 10 though, the upstream QEMU community has accelerated its release schedule significantly and many of the KVM features have been merged back into the main QEMU code base. Thus we judged that the time was right to attempt to ship a single package containing both QEMU and KVM built from a single code base. For users this means that parity of features between QEMU and KVM, while the reduced burden on our Fedora package maintainers, ensures more timely security and bug fixes. Glauber also took the opportunity to split out all the virtual BIOS files and ROMs from QEMU into separate packages and ensure all are fully built from source using appropriate upstream source releases. *6. Virtualization and Security are two things that are being discussed more or less hand in hand these days, as the ability to create and use virtualized machines expands there are many security risks involved. Can you speak a bit to the work that was done one improving security both at the kernel level (sVirt) and also the user level with things like SASL for VNC Auth?* In each Fedora release we try to make at least one significant step forward in the security of our virtualization technology. In Fedora 8, libvirt gained support for secure remote management using TLS for encryption and x509 client certificates for authentication, while GTK-VNC, QEMU, KVM and Xen were also all extended to add a VNC extension for TLS encryption providing a secure remote desktop. In Fedora 9 libvirt was further extended to support SASL enabling secure remote managment with Kerberos for authentication and PolicyKit for local desktop authentication. Fedora 9 and 10 also increased use of SELinux to protect the host operating system from a compromised or malicious QEMU/KVM process. The latter still did not provide any protection between guests, so one compromised QEMU process would still potentially be able to compromise another on the same host. Thus James Morris started work on a project known as sVirt, the first results of which are appearing in Fedora 11. The focus has been to provide isolation between guests running on a single host. libvirt directly integrates with SELinux to ensure every QEMU process it launches runs within a dedicated security context, only able to access its own assigned disk images. This protection is enabled by default on all Fedora 11 hosts using libvirt for management. As well as the security benefits, the end user experiance is improved because libvirt will automatically manage SELinux labelling for all guest disks, eliminating a major source of bug reports from previous Fedora releases. *7. These features have all evolved over time and over the previous Fedora releases and Fedora, as a distribution, has always been a leader in the virtualization realm. Can you talk a bit now about the actual process of developing these features and how many of the improvements and enhancements to virtualization have come about as a direct result of the work done previously? Also, what does the future look like?* Virtualization technology in Fedora is reaping the benefit of very active upstream projects and the significant developer resources of Red Hat's Virtualization Engineering team. The combination of these provide great opportunities for new features to have their debut in Fedora releases. The ideas for new features come from many sources, some from Fedora end-user experiances & consequent bug reports, some magically arrive on cue from upstream projects, while others are things that look to be important for future RHEL releases. With the PCI device passthrough feature in F11, the core support was all already done by the upstream KVM community. This is a important feature for future RHEL, so Red Hat put resources into a F11 feature to add support to libvirt for PCI passthrough with KVM and Xen and then expose this in virt-manager. The feature aiming to improve the guest desktop interaction was a result of the persistent stream of bug reports from Fedora users. We had been considering ways to address this over course of several Fedora releases, but it was not until Fedora 11 that all the pieces of the solution finally came together from the various upstream projects. The security improvements in virtualization have a different origin. Very few end users ever file explicit bug reports asking for the addition of more authentication / encryption features or to use more SELinux. If anything users ask for ability to more easily turn off existing security features. This is a case where the user is not always right. They do want more security, but they just don't know it yet! As a developer it is neccessary to be very proactive with security improvements. This can be particularly challenging work because the solutions often involve working across multiple upstream communities. Take the VNC SASL authentication feature in Fedora 11 as an example. The first step was to write a specification for a new VNC security extension, have it reviewed & get a code for it allocated by RealVNC. Work on QEMU was required to implement the server side. Work on GTK-VNC was needed for client side. For management tools, work on libvirt was required to get the new security type enabled for guests it launches and finally virt-manager was extended such that it knows how to login. That's give different projects involved for one feature. This is only practical by having a close working relationship with all the upstream communities and carefully coordinating the work there so it all arrives in time for the next Fedora release. For the future we're happy that libvirt gained support for managing VirtualBox recently and likely to soon have a driver for the Open Nebular cloud management project. Expect more advancements in sVirt, allowing for tighter controls on what a virtual machine can do, for example, ability to restrict network access of guests. libvirt will also gain the ability to manage host network configuration in Fedora 12, removing the need to manually configure bridge devices. Container based virt may make a more formal appearance in Fedora 12 as the native Linux container (LXC) support improves in the kernel and libvirt. The overhaul of the virt-manager user interface also continues. *8. Working on Virtualization must be awfully time consuming and very involved. Do you enjoy it? What do you do to get away from the pressures of hacking?* Working on open source virtualization technology is a great experiance because it is a really interesting & challenging field, having plenty of talented developers to work with & learn from. There is plenty of work still to be done at all levels of the stack from kernel/hypervisor right through to end user applications & not nearly enough time todo it all. I'm fortunate to be able to spread my work between upstream projects, the Fedora community and RHEL releases and maintainence. As for free time ? What free time :-) I try to find time for a photography, with 4 out of my 5 cameras still using film, rather than digital. From fzied at dottn.com Sat May 23 07:50:50 2009 From: fzied at dottn.com (Zied Fakhfakh) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 08:50:50 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] IEEE International Conference in Tunisia In-Reply-To: References: <50baabb30905070255r12676346y2927508fa696d522@mail.gmail.com> <5bddd8fd0905070347y38d00a45g42acd7b57d56f095@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905090021r3755151dt4116d9890a8f4790@mail.gmail.com> <436bc6ca0905190014j4b1aadbcy9264f9c19817eafa@mail.gmail.com> <50baabb30905190303u33f2a705g48ae62402d2dfdae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <436bc6ca0905230050g500222favb6f6d3f0a50c24@mail.gmail.com> Sure I will, do anyone of you ever seen a Fedora Tie ? it would be cool and sober on a black suite :) more seriously, really what can we do here for the event ? 2009/5/19 Jos? Roberto Colombo Junior > Yeah! I'm a IEEE Student Branch on Ilha Solteira - Brazil, and all the > events are very class-high! > But they are very important! > > My best regards. > > 2009/5/19 Chitlesh GOORAH > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Zied Fakhfakh wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > is there anything we need to prepare here in Tunisia for this event ? >> > >> >> You most probably should prepare a suit and a tie. :) Yep the dress >> code is not geeky. I heard that those IEEE events are high-class. >> >> Chitlesh >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > > -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > Jos? 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URL: From inode0 at gmail.com Sat May 23 14:08:21 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 09:08:21 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Getting Upcoming NA Events Organized and Funded Message-ID: I'd like to ask everyone to take a look at upcoming events for Q2 and Q3 here. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents#North_America_.28NA.29 For the Q2 events we really need to deal with budgets so if you are the owner (or one of the owners) please try to have ready a request for funds if you will need funding for the event by the next FAmNA meeting on June 2. Some of the events in Q2 and Q3 do not yet have owners listed. If you are able and willing to take ownership of these events please do. Also if you want Fedora to Sponsor any of these events (in either Q2 or Q3) please do make those requests now. Depending on budget availability and other needs it might be possible to sponsor a Q3 event from Q2 funds more easily than waiting for Q3. Early sponsorship has added benefits in terms of advertising usually as well. Thanks for all the great work being done at events by ambassadors. John From nacross at gmail.com Sun May 24 00:57:34 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 18:57:34 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors] F11 Release Events Contest In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:52 AM, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > FAmSCo is working organizing a contest that will involve F11 Release Events. > > We will evaluate event reports (photos, blog posts etc.), paying > attention to the organization (read > http://blog.mrtomlinux.org/index.php?post/HowTo-run-a-successful-IP, > thanks to Thomas Canniot) and everything that could help your event to > be a Fedora Style one. > > During the next days we will give you more details about it. > > So, if you haven't think about it yet, this could be an interesting reason. > > Regards > > Francesco Ugolini > Dear Francesco, I am willingly to bring Nicaraguan event to this contest. The expectation has been so high over here that we ended up making two events. One will be kind of warm up, before the big event. Please keep me posted. 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Congratulations! >>>>> >>>>> Rafael Gomes >>>>> Consultor em TI >>>>> Embaixador Fedora >>>>> LPIC-1 >>>>> (71) 8146-5772 >>>>> Fedora Talk : 5103520 >>>>> >>>>> III Encontro Nordestino de Software Livre e IV Festival de Software Livre da >>>>> Bahia >>>>> http://www.ensl.org.br >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Marley Bacelar >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Great event Mar?a >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> tatica >>>> Maria Gracia Leandro >>>> http://www.tatica.org >>>> http://www.iseit.net >>>> http://www.latinux.org >>>> http://www.latinux.com >>>> http://www.fedora-ve.org >>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro >>>> LinuxUser= 440285 >>>> GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 >>>> "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> tatica >>> Maria Gracia Leandro >>> http://www.tatica.org >>> http://www.iseit.net >>> http://www.latinux.org >>> http://www.latinux.com >>> http://www.fedora-ve.org >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro >>> LinuxUser= 440285 >>> GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 >>> "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> HACATAKA >> http://bitacorahelpdesk.blogspot.com/ >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Hacataka >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" From francesco at ephisia.org Sun May 24 07:56:52 2009 From: francesco at ephisia.org (Francesco Ugolini) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 09:56:52 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] F11 Release Events Contest In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 2:57 AM, Neville A. Cross wrote: > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:52 AM, Francesco Ugolini > wrote: >> FAmSCo is working organizing a contest that will involve F11 Release Events. >> >> We will evaluate event reports (photos, blog posts etc.), paying >> attention to the organization (read >> http://blog.mrtomlinux.org/index.php?post/HowTo-run-a-successful-IP, >> thanks to Thomas Canniot) and everything that could help your event to >> be a Fedora Style one. >> >> During the next days we will give you more details about it. >> >> So, if you haven't think about it yet, this could be an interesting reason. >> >> Regards >> >> Francesco Ugolini >> > > Dear Francesco, > > I am willingly to bring Nicaraguan event to this contest. > The expectation has been so high over here that we ended up making two events. > One will be kind of warm up, before the big event. > > Please keep me posted. > > Best regards > > -- > Neville > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v > Linux User # 473217 > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Check: http://www.clickmanagua.com > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sure, the contest is open to all Release Events. Just make sure to add your event in FedoraEvents, and report your events trought blog posts, photos, and ahatever you want. It's a pleasure to hear your willingness to join it, and, sure, you are welcome! Regards Francesco p.s. after the report, it could be useful to have a M-L email with the blog post link and so on.... thanks From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Mon May 25 01:18:39 2009 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 22:18:39 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Brasil Magazine - 5th Edition Message-ID: <4A19F1EF.80901@projetofedora.org> ============== Fedora Brasil Magazine - 5th Edition =================== It?s an absolute pleasure for Projeto Fedora Brasil (Brazilian Fedora Project) to announce that the 5th edition of our magazine is available for download. In this number, we?ve made a special approach to Office Suite BrOffice.org and have been presented with a special editorial written by Gustavo Pacheco, charter member of BrOffice.org. We would also like to introduce the series BrOffice.org for advanced users. For those who want to know all its potential, it?s time to start your collection. As usual, we?ve chosen a very interesting game: Secret Maryo Chronicles is a pretty special remake of a classic game that everyone knows, it will certainly please even the most demanding players. Neither GNOME nor KDE, we invite you to know Enlightenment, which promises to turn your desktop into a work of art, and we also talked to Professor Gregory Kriehn, of the Engineering Department, at California State University ? and the father of the repository of Enlightenment for Fedora. Igor Soares analyses, in a clarifying way, the complex situation of closed drivers in the Linux world, the lessons on Shell Script have finally moved from the introductory phase, and now the person in charge is Fabiano Caixeta Duarte. Is anything missing? How about our first comic strips? Download from: http://www.projetofedora.org/Revista Email Translator: Renata Ribeiro Guimar?es -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From dichi at alfaridi.info Mon May 25 02:21:11 2009 From: dichi at alfaridi.info (Dichi Al Faridi) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:21:11 +0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Discovering public mirrors In-Reply-To: <20090522160256.GB28886@domsch.com> References: <20090522160256.GB28886@domsch.com> Message-ID: <4A1A0097.9040702@alfaridi.info> Matt Domsch wrote: > With thanks to this openSUSE blog post: > http://vavai.net/2009/05/21/launching-indonesian-opensuse-mirror-repository/ > > I found 4 additional public mirrors in Indonesia which also carry > Fedora content. I added these to Fedora's MirrorManager this morning. > > I would ask all Ambassadors: if you are using a Fedora public mirror > that is not listed in MirrorManager, please let me know. > http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/ has the list. > > Thanks, > Matt > Fedora Mirror Wrangler > From Indonesia, we have 4 mirror that we usually use. http://dl2.foss-id.web.id/fedora/ http://kambing.ui.edu/fedora/ http://fedora.nusantara-linux.web.id/ http://shol.vlsm.org/fedora/ But sadly, It is all have lack of bandwidth to outside from Indonesia. -- Salam hangat, Dichi Al Faridi --------------- Linux Registered User #484936 http://www.alfaridi.info/ From renich at woralelandia.com Mon May 25 21:26:19 2009 From: renich at woralelandia.com (Renich Bon Ciric) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 16:26:19 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 11 Release Parties In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1b4d94a30905251426o5c692662qfe2afddfbb5a227@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > (1) Having a LiveUSB installfest, and having local mirrors so that people > can do local network installs. > > (2) Sponsoring food & drinks at a LUG meeting, and having the "keynote" talk > of the night be about Fedora 11, what you do for Fedora, and how others can > contribute. > > (3) If you are in an area with a number of Fedora contributors, get them all > together and just have a little troubleshooting session for others, and do > some random hacking on stuff, or just enjoy each other's company and revel > in the success of a release. > > (4) Whatever you can imagine. Really cool ideas! Currently, I don't have the infrastructure... I'm working on it! ;=) -- It's hard to be free... but I love to struggle! Renich Bon Ciric http://www.woralelandia.com/ http://www.introbella.com/ From aalonso at fedoraproject.org Mon May 25 22:40:46 2009 From: aalonso at fedoraproject.org (Adrian Alonso) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 17:40:46 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors][Event Report] Flisol 2009, Mexico DF. Message-ID: Hi, Last Saturday I participate in Latin America Install Fest by giving a workshop on installing Fedora and also by giving a talk about Fedora project. The event toke place at "Centro Universitario Grupo Sol" M?xico DF, with a moderate number of participants, around 30. The presentation slides are available at: Slides post: http://aalonso.wordpress.com/ -- Saludos Adrian Alonso http://aalonso.wordpress.com Fedora Project Contributor https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Aalonso -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matt at domsch.com Tue May 26 01:30:36 2009 From: matt at domsch.com (Matt Domsch) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 20:30:36 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Discovering public mirrors In-Reply-To: <4A1A0097.9040702@alfaridi.info> References: <20090522160256.GB28886@domsch.com> <4A1A0097.9040702@alfaridi.info> Message-ID: <20090526013036.GA2857@domsch.com> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 09:21:11AM +0700, Dichi Al Faridi wrote: > Matt Domsch wrote: > >With thanks to this openSUSE blog post: > > http://vavai.net/2009/05/21/launching-indonesian-opensuse-mirror-repository/ > > > >I found 4 additional public mirrors in Indonesia which also carry > >Fedora content. I added these to Fedora's MirrorManager this morning. > > > >I would ask all Ambassadors: if you are using a Fedora public mirror > >that is not listed in MirrorManager, please let me know. > >http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/ has the list. > > > >Thanks, > >Matt > >Fedora Mirror Wrangler > > > From Indonesia, we have 4 mirror that we usually use. > > http://dl2.foss-id.web.id/fedora/ > http://kambing.ui.edu/fedora/ > http://fedora.nusantara-linux.web.id/ > http://shol.vlsm.org/fedora/ > > But sadly, It is all have lack of bandwidth to outside from Indonesia. Thanks for these. I would prefer if the mirror owner would create an entry for each in the MirrorManager database (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mirrormanager - see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring for more details). Until then, I'll add a placeholder entry. MM can easily restrict mirror users to be from .id. Just add the single entry 'id' to the restricted countries list for each mirror, and then MM will not direct non-.id users to those mirrors. Thanks, Matt From tuanta at iwayvietnam.com Tue May 26 01:29:32 2009 From: tuanta at iwayvietnam.com (Truong Anh. Tuan) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 08:29:32 +0700 (ICT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu Message-ID: <2104764.01243301369645.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Hi all, Most of People in our community are crazy with Ubuntu. I know Fedora is much better and I am thinking about a campaign to change their mind. First of all, I would like to write a full list of advantages in Fedora against Ubuntu (in our language, Vietnamese, of course). Could you please help me some good sources and ideas (both for the advantage list and the full process to change their mind). Kind regards, Tuan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cmpahar at gmail.com Tue May 26 02:00:04 2009 From: cmpahar at gmail.com (Christos Bacharakis) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 05:00:04 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <2104764.01243301369645.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> References: <2104764.01243301369645.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Message-ID: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Truong Anh. Tuan wrote: > Hi all, > > Most of People in our community are crazy with Ubuntu. > I know Fedora is much better and I am thinking about a campaign to change > their mind. > > First of all, I would like to write a full list of advantages in Fedora > against Ubuntu (in our language, Vietnamese, of course). > Could you please help me some good sources and ideas (both for the > advantage list and the full process to change their mind). > > Kind regards, > Tuan > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > The first argument that I come up with is that many Ubuntu sub-projects are not upstream. For example if an Ubuntu translator, translate a gnome string, Launchpad will not upstream the string to Gnome translations so the other distributions won't have that string translated. An another thing is that Ubuntu uses many tools like Launchpad which are closed source. Hey, we are a FOSS community over here. A personal argument is that Ubuntu is trying to be more like Windows and less than a typical Linux distribution. Evolution is good, but don't try to be more like your enemy for wining more fans. It's not right! I am a little bit tired so I can't think anything else right now. Hope to helped you. Good luck. -- Christos Bacharakis cmpahar at gmail.com http://bacharakis.com GPG Key: 499F5C33 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nushio at gmail.com Tue May 26 02:03:50 2009 From: nushio at gmail.com (Juan M. Rodriguez) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 21:03:50 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <2104764.01243301369645.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Message-ID: Hi there, I always sway people with this phrase: "Want to see tomorrow's Ubuntu? Try Fedora today!" then proceed to explain how features are more important, and the Fedora Philosofy: Freedom, Friends, Features, First It's worked out for me so far. -Nushio On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Christos Bacharakis wrote: > > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Truong Anh. Tuan wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Most of People in our community are crazy with Ubuntu. >> I know Fedora is much better and I am thinking about a campaign to change >> their mind. >> >> First of all, I would like to write a full list of advantages in Fedora >> against Ubuntu (in our language, Vietnamese, of course). >> Could you please help me some good sources and ideas (both for the >> advantage list and the full process to change their mind). >> >> Kind regards, >> Tuan >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > The first argument that I come up with is that many Ubuntu sub-projects are > not upstream. For example if an Ubuntu translator, translate a gnome string, > Launchpad will not upstream the string to Gnome translations so the other > distributions won't have that string translated. > An another thing is that Ubuntu uses many tools like Launchpad which are > closed source. Hey, we are a FOSS community over here. > > A personal argument is that Ubuntu is trying to be more like Windows and > less than a typical Linux distribution. Evolution is good, but don't try to > be more like your enemy for wining more fans. It's not right! > > I am a little bit tired so I can't think anything else right now. Hope to > helped you. Good luck. > > -- > Christos Bacharakis > cmpahar at gmail.com > http://bacharakis.com > GPG Key: 499F5C33 > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From larry.cafiero at gmail.com Tue May 26 02:29:49 2009 From: larry.cafiero at gmail.com (Larry Cafiero) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 19:29:49 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <2104764.01243301369645.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Message-ID: <7a0d56080905251929v16313fcbm1929de1da15dca22@mail.gmail.com> Christos makes some good observations, but Juan's is a good suggestion and I think we should accent our positives. In my opinion -- and this may not be the prevailing one -- I don't believe that this should be treated as a football game where we congregate into fans waving banners and scarves -- "Go Fedora, Beat Ubuntu!" -- because I don't believe the FOSS mindset should be like that (and I hope it isn't). Nor should Ubuntu users think this way, of course, but they'll have to address that themselves. Ubuntu brings a lot to the FOSS table -- just as OpenSUSE and Mandriva and others do -- and all should be recognized for their contributions. Improvements made by one distro uplifts everyone else. Many people start off with Ubuntu, including me. I still use Xubuntu on two machines in my computer lab in Felton. But I ended up with -- and my distro of choice is -- Fedora because of the quality and innovation, the camaraderie within those working on it (pointing to all of you), and the dedication of those of us involved are intangible qualities that make Fedora superior. [That and our record of getting project and improvements therein upstream . . . .] Just an observation here, but you know your audience best, Tuan. Larry Cafiero On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Juan M. Rodriguez wrote: > Hi there, > > I always sway people with this phrase: "Want to see tomorrow's Ubuntu? Try > Fedora today!" then proceed to explain how features are more important, and > the Fedora Philosofy: > > Freedom, Friends, Features, First > > It's worked out for me so far. > > -Nushio > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Christos Bacharakis wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Truong Anh. Tuan > > wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Most of People in our community are crazy with Ubuntu. >>> I know Fedora is much better and I am thinking about a campaign to change >>> their mind. >>> >>> First of all, I would like to write a full list of advantages in Fedora >>> against Ubuntu (in our language, Vietnamese, of course). >>> Could you please help me some good sources and ideas (both for the >>> advantage list and the full process to change their mind). >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> Tuan >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >> >> >> The first argument that I come up with is that many Ubuntu sub-projects >> are not upstream. For example if an Ubuntu translator, translate a gnome >> string, Launchpad will not upstream the string to Gnome translations so the >> other distributions won't have that string translated. >> An another thing is that Ubuntu uses many tools like Launchpad which are >> closed source. Hey, we are a FOSS community over here. >> >> A personal argument is that Ubuntu is trying to be more like Windows and >> less than a typical Linux distribution. Evolution is good, but don't try to >> be more like your enemy for wining more fans. It's not right! >> >> I am a little bit tired so I can't think anything else right now. Hope to >> helped you. Good luck. >> >> -- >> Christos Bacharakis >> cmpahar at gmail.com >> http://bacharakis.com >> GPG Key: 499F5C33 >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > > -- > Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno > Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos > Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joseroberto at ieee.org Tue May 26 03:31:00 2009 From: joseroberto at ieee.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Roberto_Colombo_Junior?=) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 00:31:00 -0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080905251929v16313fcbm1929de1da15dca22@mail.gmail.com> References: <2104764.01243301369645.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> <7a0d56080905251929v16313fcbm1929de1da15dca22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Fedora packages are keep using the same name of them, instead of Ubuntu, that change the name and broke some packages, what is not good for programmers ... And Fedora also keep the original programs and configuration of them. That's why I use Fedora. Bye bye. 2009/5/25 Larry Cafiero > Christos makes some good observations, but Juan's is a good suggestion and > I think we should accent our positives. > > In my opinion -- and this may not be the prevailing one -- I don't believe > that this should be treated as a football game where we congregate into fans > waving banners and scarves -- "Go Fedora, Beat Ubuntu!" -- because I don't > believe the FOSS mindset should be like that (and I hope it isn't). Nor > should Ubuntu users think this way, of course, but they'll have to address > that themselves. > > Ubuntu brings a lot to the FOSS table -- just as OpenSUSE and Mandriva and > others do -- and all should be recognized for their contributions. > Improvements made by one distro uplifts everyone else. > > Many people start off with Ubuntu, including me. I still use Xubuntu on two > machines in my computer lab in Felton. But I ended up with -- and my distro > of choice is -- Fedora because of the quality and innovation, the > camaraderie within those working on it (pointing to all of you), and the > dedication of those of us involved are intangible qualities that make Fedora > superior. > > [That and our record of getting project and improvements therein upstream . > . . .] > > Just an observation here, but you know your audience best, Tuan. > > Larry Cafiero > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Juan M. Rodriguez wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> I always sway people with this phrase: "Want to see tomorrow's Ubuntu? Try >> Fedora today!" then proceed to explain how features are more important, and >> the Fedora Philosofy: >> >> Freedom, Friends, Features, First >> >> It's worked out for me so far. >> >> -Nushio >> >> >> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Christos Bacharakis wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Truong Anh. Tuan < >>> tuanta at iwayvietnam.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Most of People in our community are crazy with Ubuntu. >>>> I know Fedora is much better and I am thinking about a campaign to >>>> change their mind. >>>> >>>> First of all, I would like to write a full list of advantages in Fedora >>>> against Ubuntu (in our language, Vietnamese, of course). >>>> Could you please help me some good sources and ideas (both for the >>>> advantage list and the full process to change their mind). >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> Tuan >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>>> >>> >>> >>> The first argument that I come up with is that many Ubuntu sub-projects >>> are not upstream. For example if an Ubuntu translator, translate a gnome >>> string, Launchpad will not upstream the string to Gnome translations so the >>> other distributions won't have that string translated. >>> An another thing is that Ubuntu uses many tools like Launchpad which are >>> closed source. Hey, we are a FOSS community over here. >>> >>> A personal argument is that Ubuntu is trying to be more like Windows and >>> less than a typical Linux distribution. Evolution is good, but don't try to >>> be more like your enemy for wining more fans. It's not right! >>> >>> I am a little bit tired so I can't think anything else right now. Hope to >>> helped you. Good luck. >>> >>> -- >>> Christos Bacharakis >>> cmpahar at gmail.com >>> http://bacharakis.com >>> GPG Key: 499F5C33 >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno >> Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos >> Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico >> >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Jos? 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In addition, Fedora sees much better collaboration between Its users and contributors along with Red Hat than I've seen with Ubuntu users and Canonical (correct me if I miswrote that) Finally, Fedora is leading edge. It's the first major disrro to implement LVM and ext4 by default and paves the way for inclusion of new software in mainstream Linux. P.S. I also love Blue and hate Brown. Kamin Horvath Fedora Ambassadors USA On May 25, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Larry Cafiero wrote: > Christos makes some good observations, but Juan's is a good > suggestion and I think we should accent our positives. > > In my opinion -- and this may not be the prevailing one -- I don't > believe that this should be treated as a football game where we > congregate into fans waving banners and scarves -- "Go Fedora, Beat > Ubuntu!" -- because I don't believe the FOSS mindset should be like > that (and I hope it isn't). Nor should Ubuntu users think this way, > of course, but they'll have to address that themselves. > > Ubuntu brings a lot to the FOSS table -- just as OpenSUSE and > Mandriva and others do -- and all should be recognized for their > contributions. Improvements made by one distro uplifts everyone else. > > Many people start off with Ubuntu, including me. I still use Xubuntu > on two machines in my computer lab in Felton. But I ended up with -- > and my distro of choice is -- Fedora because of the quality and > innovation, the camaraderie within those working on it (pointing to > all of you), and the dedication of those of us involved are > intangible qualities that make Fedora superior. > > [That and our record of getting project and improvements therein > upstream . . . .] > > Just an observation here, but you know your audience best, Tuan. > > Larry Cafiero > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Juan M. Rodriguez > wrote: > Hi there, > > I always sway people with this phrase: "Want to see tomorrow's > Ubuntu? Try Fedora today!" then proceed to explain how features are > more important, and the Fedora Philosofy: > > Freedom, Friends, Features, First > > It's worked out for me so far. > > -Nushio > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Christos Bacharakis > wrote: > > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Truong Anh. Tuan > wrote: > Hi all, > > Most of People in our community are crazy with Ubuntu. > I know Fedora is much better and I am thinking about a campaign to > change their mind. > > First of all, I would like to write a full list of advantages in > Fedora against Ubuntu (in our language, Vietnamese, of course). > Could you please help me some good sources and ideas (both for the > advantage list and the full process to change their mind). > > Kind regards, > Tuan > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > The first argument that I come up with is that many Ubuntu sub- > projects are not upstream. For example if an Ubuntu translator, > translate a gnome string, Launchpad will not upstream the string to > Gnome translations so the other distributions won't have that string > translated. > An another thing is that Ubuntu uses many tools like Launchpad which > are closed source. Hey, we are a FOSS community over here. > > A personal argument is that Ubuntu is trying to be more like Windows > and less than a typical Linux distribution. Evolution is good, but > don't try to be more like your enemy for wining more fans. It's not > right! > > I am a little bit tired so I can't think anything else right now. > Hope to helped you. Good luck. > > -- > Christos Bacharakis > cmpahar at gmail.com > http://bacharakis.com > GPG Key: 499F5C33 > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -- > Ing. Juan M. 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URL: From kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com Tue May 26 03:37:55 2009 From: kagesenshi.87 at gmail.com (Izhar Firdaus) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:37:55 +0800 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <7a0d56080905251929v16313fcbm1929de1da15dca22@mail.gmail.com> References: <2104764.01243301369645.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> <7a0d56080905251929v16313fcbm1929de1da15dca22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Larry Cafiero wrote: > Christos makes some good observations, but Juan's is a good suggestion and I > think we should accent our positives. > > In my opinion -- and this may not be the prevailing one -- I don't believe > that this should be treated as a football game where we congregate into fans > waving banners and scarves -- "Go Fedora, Beat Ubuntu!" -- because I don't > believe the FOSS mindset should be like that (and I hope it isn't). Nor > should Ubuntu users think this way, of course, but they'll have to address > that themselves. > > Ubuntu brings a lot to the FOSS table -- just as OpenSUSE and Mandriva and > others do -- and all should be recognized for their contributions. > Improvements made by one distro uplifts everyone else. > > Many people start off with Ubuntu, including me. I still use Xubuntu on two > machines in my computer lab in Felton. But I ended up with -- and my distro > of choice is -- Fedora because of the quality and innovation, the > camaraderie within those working on it (pointing to all of you), and the > dedication of those of us involved are intangible qualities that make Fedora > superior. > > [That and our record of getting project and improvements therein upstream . > . . .] "if ure new and aftraid of Linux, try Ubuntu first. Once ure ready to feel the real thing, use latest technologies and start contributing to upstream, come to Fedora!" > > Just an observation here, but you know your audience best, Tuan. > > Larry Cafiero > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Juan M. Rodriguez wrote: >> >> Hi there, >> >> I always sway people with this phrase: "Want to see tomorrow's Ubuntu? Try >> Fedora today!" then proceed to explain how features are more important, and >> the Fedora Philosofy: >> >> Freedom, Friends, Features, First >> >> It's worked out for me so far. >> >> -Nushio >> >> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Christos Bacharakis >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Truong Anh. Tuan >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Most of People in our community are crazy with Ubuntu. >>>> I know Fedora is much better and I am thinking about a campaign to >>>> change their mind. >>>> >>>> First of all, I would like to write a full list of advantages in Fedora >>>> against Ubuntu (in our language, Vietnamese, of course). >>>> Could you please help me some good sources and ideas (both for the >>>> advantage list and the full process to change their mind). >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> Tuan >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >>> >>> The first argument that I come up with is that many Ubuntu sub-projects >>> are not upstream. For example if an Ubuntu translator, translate a gnome >>> string, Launchpad will not upstream the string to Gnome translations so the >>> other distributions won't have that string translated. >>> An another thing is that Ubuntu uses many tools like Launchpad which are >>> closed source. Hey, we are a FOSS community over here. >>> >>> A personal argument is that Ubuntu is trying to be more like Windows and >>> less than a typical Linux distribution. Evolution is good, but don't try to >>> be more like your enemy for wining more fans. It's not right! >>> >>> I am a little bit tired so I can't think anything else right now. Hope to >>> helped you. Good luck. >>> >>> -- >>> Christos Bacharakis >>> cmpahar at gmail.com >>> http://bacharakis.com >>> GPG Key: 499F5C33 >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno >> Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos >> Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico >> >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail Amano Hikaru ??? ???? ???? Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MohdIzharFirdaus http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331 From inode0 at gmail.com Tue May 26 04:54:09 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 23:54:09 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <2104764.01243301369645.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> <7a0d56080905251929v16313fcbm1929de1da15dca22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Kamin Horvath wrote: > I started off with Fedora at first due to its heritage (before I used Red > Hat Linux), but now I see that Ubuntu often tries too hard to appeal to the > masses. How does Ubuntu try too hard to appeal to the masses? Spreading free software to the "masses" seems to be a core goal of Ubuntu and, given that, they should try as hard as they can to do it. > Fedora really conveys the true spirit of Linux and open source > software. While I can heartily endorse the spirit of Fedora, I think the implication that Ubuntu doesn't share the "true spirit" is a bit unfair. When it comes to the Fedora foundations of Freedom and Friends I see the same at the heart of the Ubuntu community. Ubuntu is largely derived from another distribution, this makes it quite different from Fedora and it makes many of the usual comparisons problematic. I often hear about the large contribution that the Fedora community makes upstream. That is something to be very proud of indeed. Expecting a distribution largely derived from another to match Fedora in this regard I don't think is realistic or fair. The Features and First foundations flow from this relationship between Fedora and the upstream communities. > It doesn't include features to please it's fanbase or to make it > like certain products (specifically those originating from Redmond, > Washington), it does so because it fits the mission of the project. Well, I'm not quite sure what you mean by the reference to Redmond there. Fedora includes features its users want and features that its developers feel will drive the computing of tomorrow. And these features sometimes directly relate to the products coming out of Redmond. I'm quite in agreement with Larry on this general topic. I would encourage ambassadors to be eager to explain to anyone about the great qualities of the Fedora community and highlight its accomplishments. Say what is good about Fedora every chance you get to all who will listen. But I would also discourage ambassadors from trying to characterize what we might perceive to be the shortcomings of any other community. I don't feel it is our place to do that and I don't think it presents us in the best light. Of course every ambassador gets to make this decision, but try to say "Fedora is great because ..." without the "and distro X is not great because ..." John "getting down from his soapbox" From nushio at gmail.com Tue May 26 05:00:43 2009 From: nushio at gmail.com (Juan M. Rodriguez) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 00:00:43 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <2104764.01243301369645.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> <7a0d56080905251929v16313fcbm1929de1da15dca22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:54 PM, inode0 wrote: > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Kamin Horvath > wrote: > > I started off with Fedora at first due to its heritage (before I used Red > > Hat Linux), but now I see that Ubuntu often tries too hard to appeal to > the > > masses. > > How does Ubuntu try too hard to appeal to the masses? Spreading free > software to the "masses" seems to be a core goal of Ubuntu and, given > that, they should try as hard as they can to do it. > > > Fedora really conveys the true spirit of Linux and open source > > software. > > While I can heartily endorse the spirit of Fedora, I think the > implication that Ubuntu doesn't share the "true spirit" is a bit > unfair. When it comes to the Fedora foundations of Freedom and Friends > I see the same at the heart of the Ubuntu community. > > Ubuntu is largely derived from another distribution, this makes it > quite different from Fedora and it makes many of the usual comparisons > problematic. I often hear about the large contribution that the Fedora > community makes upstream. That is something to be very proud of > indeed. Expecting a distribution largely derived from another to match > Fedora in this regard I don't think is realistic or fair. The Features > and First foundations flow from this relationship between Fedora and > the upstream communities. > > > It doesn't include features to please it's fanbase or to make it > > like certain products (specifically those originating from Redmond, > > Washington), it does so because it fits the mission of the project. > > Well, I'm not quite sure what you mean by the reference to Redmond > there. Fedora includes features its users want and features that its > developers feel will drive the computing of tomorrow. And these > features sometimes directly relate to the products coming out of > Redmond. > > I'm quite in agreement with Larry on this general topic. I would > encourage ambassadors to be eager to explain to anyone about the great > qualities of the Fedora community and highlight its accomplishments. > Say what is good about Fedora every chance you get to all who will > listen. But I would also discourage ambassadors from trying to > characterize what we might perceive to be the shortcomings of any > other community. I don't feel it is our place to do that and I don't > think it presents us in the best light. Of course every ambassador > gets to make this decision, but try to say "Fedora is great because > ..." without the "and distro X is not great because ..." > > John "getting down from his soapbox" > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > I completely agree. My previous comment, I only gave out to some people. My standard response is that every Linux distro is a different flavor of Icecream. There is no one flavor that everyone likes (I like with Choco-Mint). So, yeah, highlight our features, not the features other distros lack. -- Ing. Juan M. 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Nor should Ubuntu users think this way, of course, but they'll have to address that themselves. > Sure. I totally agree. That's why I am thinking about Fedora's advantages, NOT Ubuntu (or other distros)'s disadvantages. > Ubuntu brings a lot to the FOSS table -- just as OpenSUSE and Mandriva and others do -- and all should be recognized for their contributions. Improvements made by one distro uplifts everyone else. > > Many people start off with Ubuntu, including me. I still use Xubuntu on two machines in my computer lab in Felton. But I ended up with -- and my distro of choice is -- Fedora because of the quality and innovation, the camaraderie within those working on it (pointing to all of you), and the dedication of those of us involved are intangible qualities that make Fedora superior. > > [That and our record of getting project and improvements therein upstream . . . .] > > Just an observation here, but you know your audience best, Tuan. > > Larry Cafiero > Also, thank all of you for your suggestions and ideas. I will push and tell you back later. Kind regards, Tuan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tuanta at iwayvietnam.com Tue May 26 05:48:56 2009 From: tuanta at iwayvietnam.com (Truong Anh. Tuan) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 12:48:56 +0700 (ICT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <20251546.301243316735269.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Message-ID: <23002122.321243316932454.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> ----- "Christos Bacharakis" wrote: > The first argument that I come up with is that many Ubuntu sub-projects are not upstream. For example if an Ubuntu translator, translate a gnome string, Launchpad will not upstream the string to Gnome translations so the other distributions won't have that string translated. > Could you tell me more about this. Also, any URL/articles? > An another thing is that Ubuntu uses many tools like Launchpad which are closed source. Hey, we are a FOSS community over here. > Also this. Could you tell me more and give me some URL/articles for more details. Kind regards, Tuan Vietnam Fedora Ambassador Email/SIP: tuanta at fedoraproject.org Email2: tatuan at gmail.com http://blog.iwayvietnam.com/tuanta/ GPG Key: EF8D50BF -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nthomas at emersion.com.au Tue May 26 05:53:30 2009 From: nthomas at emersion.com.au (Nathan Thomas) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 15:53:30 +1000 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <2104764.01243301369645.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> <7a0d56080905251929v16313fcbm1929de1da15dca22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1243317210.17395.73.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 23:54 -0500, inode0 wrote: > How does Ubuntu try too hard to appeal to the masses? Spreading free > software to the "masses" seems to be a core goal of Ubuntu and, given > that, they should try as hard as they can to do it. Thank you John, I wanted to sit down and reply to this thread at some point when I had a chance and post something along these same lines. I'm glad that you did it! Ubuntu aren't the enemy, nor are they really in competition to Fedora. We each have a demographic that is quite active and a user-base that is quite loyal. That is something to be admired in both distributions. I really rather like the fact that Ubuntu "caters to the masses". In fact, I've installed it on my mother's laptop as well as my girlfriend's. Neither of them is really ready for Fedora. The very "closed source" aspects of Ubuntu I've seen criticised in this thread are same features that make Ubuntu appropriate for so many people. When my parents call me and ask about a photo management program, I love telling them to go to "Add/Remove software, and search for Picasa". It's fantastic. Now, I understand and appreciate that Fedora can do these things and so much more, I'm not even trying to say that Ubuntu is better suited to this task for me. But Fedora isn't for everyone, and I love that. I think that in trying to be everything to everyone, Windows has become an Operating System that is truly suited to almost no-one. I wouldn't want either Fedora or Ubuntu to head down that same path. "Each to their own" as the cliche goes. As Izhar recommended earlier: Get your feet wet in Ubuntu if you are migrating to Linux for the first time. When/if you are ready to move to something a little more bleeding-edge, then by all means, move to Fedora. My exception to this would be for tech savvy folk. If I felt the newcomer to Linux could handle the concept of "Root" and would have the aptitude/patience/courage to get under the hood of the OS a little, then I'd endorse Fedora all the way! Nath. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scriptdevil.fedora at gmail.com Tue May 26 06:47:41 2009 From: scriptdevil.fedora at gmail.com (Ashok Gautham) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 12:17:41 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <2104764.01243301369645.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> References: <2104764.01243301369645.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Message-ID: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Truong Anh. Tuan wrote: > Hi all, > > Most of People in our community are crazy with Ubuntu. > I know Fedora is much better and I am thinking about a campaign to change > their mind. > > First of all, I would like to write a full list of advantages in Fedora > against Ubuntu (in our language, Vietnamese, of course). > Could you please help me some good sources and ideas (both for the advantage > list and the full process to change their mind). I find Fedora - 11's presto a feature that will compel users to switch from distros like ubuntu that cause heavy downloads during a system update to a system like Fedora that is lighter in bandwidth usage. This holds in lands like India where we still use 128/256 kbps connections. Of course there are people with 2/8/16MBps connections as well.. --- Ashok `ScriptDevil` Gautham From tuanta at iwayvietnam.com Tue May 26 06:52:42 2009 From: tuanta at iwayvietnam.com (Truong Anh. Tuan) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 13:52:42 +0700 (ICT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <13402762.401243320761708.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> ----- "Ashok Gautham" wrote: > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Truong Anh. Tuan > wrote: > > I find Fedora - 11's presto a feature that will compel users to > switch > from distros like ubuntu > that cause heavy downloads during a system update to a system like > Fedora that is lighter > in bandwidth usage. > > This holds in lands like India where we still use 128/256 kbps > connections. Of course there > are people with 2/8/16MBps connections as well.. We already have a local mirror (partially only) for Fedora (maintained by my team) but also have that for Ubuntu and some other distros. So, the speed of upload download does not matter here. However, your idea to compare Fedora 11 features to see what's advantages is good. I will try. Thank you. > > --- > Ashok `ScriptDevil` Gautham Kind regards, Tuan Vietnam Fedora Ambassador Email/SIP: tuanta at fedoraproject.org Email2: tatuan at gmail.com http://blog.iwayvietnam.com/tuanta/ From frankly3d at gmail.com Tue May 26 07:07:08 2009 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 08:07:08 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <2104764.01243301369645.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> References: <2104764.01243301369645.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Message-ID: <4A1B951C.20102@gmail.com> Truong Anh. Tuan wrote: > Hi all, > > Most of People in our community are crazy with Ubuntu. > I know Fedora is much better and I am thinking about a campaign to > change their mind. I wouldn't worry about it. If they use Ubuntu fine. We are not in competition with Linux. Personally, I quietly proffer Fedora, as a Linux solution to those with Windows problems. Who may never have heard of Linux, GNU, F\L\OSS etc. Frank -- msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List Still Learning, Unicode where possible From gerold at lugd.org Tue May 26 07:28:17 2009 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 09:28:17 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <4A1B951C.20102@gmail.com> References: <2104764.01243301369645.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> <4A1B951C.20102@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00ecb6e3cd429ba7f8c97aeb58d2ec4b.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Do we really need to "start flame" .... ???? Regards Gerold > Truong Anh. Tuan wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Most of People in our community are crazy with Ubuntu. >> I know Fedora is much better and I am thinking about a campaign to >> change their mind. > > I wouldn't worry about it. > If they use Ubuntu fine. > We are not in competition with Linux. > > Personally, I quietly proffer Fedora, > as a Linux solution to those with Windows problems. > Who may never have heard of Linux, GNU, F\L\OSS etc. > > Frank > > -- > msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d > Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List > Still Learning, Unicode where possible > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > From frankly3d at gmail.com Tue May 26 07:37:58 2009 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 08:37:58 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <00ecb6e3cd429ba7f8c97aeb58d2ec4b.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <2104764.01243301369645.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> <4A1B951C.20102@gmail.com> <00ecb6e3cd429ba7f8c97aeb58d2ec4b.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: <4A1B9C56.5030402@gmail.com> Gerold wrote: > Do we really need to "start flame" .... ???? > > Regards > > Gerold > How is it a flame. It says so on fedoraproject.org "We are not in competition" Frank -- msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List Still Learning, Unicode where possible From tuanta at iwayvietnam.com Tue May 26 07:45:22 2009 From: tuanta at iwayvietnam.com (Truong Anh. Tuan) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:45:22 +0700 (ICT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <4A1B9C56.5030402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <24193449.571243323920357.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> ----- "Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)" wrote: > Gerold wrote: > > Do we really need to "start flame" .... ???? > > > > Regards > > > > Gerold > > > > How is it a flame. > It says so on fedoraproject.org > "We are not in competition" No problem. I understand you :) Thank you for your sharing. > > Frank > Kind regards, Tuan From loupgaroublond at gmail.com Tue May 26 08:33:03 2009 From: loupgaroublond at gmail.com (Yaakov Nemoy) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 10:33:03 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <2104764.01243301369645.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Message-ID: <7f692fec0905260133y692d68b1m1606daa60846afba@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/26 Juan M. Rodriguez : > Hi there, > > I always sway people with this phrase: "Want to see tomorrow's Ubuntu? Try > Fedora today!" then proceed to explain how features are more important, and > the Fedora Philosofy: > > Freedom, Friends, Features, First > > It's worked out for me so far. This is one that i advocate as well. When people ask to compare the two distros, i make a point of explaining some of the good things that Ubuntu does. But i also point out that despite Ubuntu's work, nothing ever works 100%, because that's a Very Hard Thing To Do (TM). I also mention that since it's so difficult, we don't make that our primary focus in Fedora, in contrast to Ubuntu. Then i drop talking about Ubuntu completely, because honestly, i'm not paid enough to be a marketing droid for Canonical. Instead, i concentrate on what Fedora does, as if no other distro exists other than to consume Fedora's work. For example, recently i gave a presentation to the WPLUG (Western Pennsylvania) about Fedora 11. I explained how the quest to make fingerprint readers Just Work meant 1) They would be easy to use, and 2) There would be some good standards and best practices coming from this work on how to support them both on the end user side and in the enterprise. (Sure, Ubuntu could do the same, but if this is important to you, you'll use Fedora because we have the bits, and they don't yet.) Likewise, i comment on libvirt and virt-manager, where the new release of virt-manager is much easier to use. The reason why the developers fixed it up was not just for the goal of making things work 100%, but because they want to have a more reliable solid program, hands down, that every distro can benefit from. Finally, you'll probably get a bunch of questions from users of other distros. Sometimes it's good to drag them into conversations about how they can test the technology better on Fedora just to make sure it works on other distros too. Invite them to use liveUSB and join Testing Days. You can also talk about how they can help to get the technology into their own distro faster, and contribute to upstream at the same time. This is really our ultimate goal in Fedora. Upstream is worth far more than any single distro is. Hope this helps you. -Yaakov > > -Nushio > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Christos Bacharakis > wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Truong Anh. Tuan >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Most of People in our community are crazy with Ubuntu. >>> I know Fedora is much better and I am thinking about a campaign to change >>> their mind. >>> >>> First of all, I would like to write a full list of advantages in Fedora >>> against Ubuntu (in our language, Vietnamese, of course). >>> Could you please help me some good sources and ideas (both for the >>> advantage list and the full process to change their mind). >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> Tuan >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> >> The first argument that I come up with is that many Ubuntu sub-projects >> are not upstream. For example if an Ubuntu translator, translate a gnome >> string, Launchpad will not upstream the string to Gnome translations so the >> other distributions won't have that string translated. >> An another thing is that Ubuntu uses many tools like Launchpad which are >> closed source. Hey, we are a FOSS community over here. >> >> A personal argument is that Ubuntu is trying to be more like Windows and >> less than a typical Linux distribution. Evolution is good, but don't try to >> be more like your enemy for wining more fans. It's not right! >> >> I am a little bit tired so I can't think anything else right now. Hope to >> helped you. Good luck. >> >> -- >> Christos Bacharakis >> cmpahar at gmail.com >> http://bacharakis.com >> GPG Key: 499F5C33 >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > > -- > Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno > Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos > Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico > > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > From mohaas05 at gmail.com Tue May 26 10:23:52 2009 From: mohaas05 at gmail.com (Kamin Horvath) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 06:23:52 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <2104764.01243301369645.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> <7a0d56080905251929v16313fcbm1929de1da15dca22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <86DD67CF-5A30-407C-B809-17303C6399F3@gmail.com> Well I'm not saying Ubuntu is bad for what it does. Certainly it's great for what it does, introduce Linux. I just feel Fedora has different goals which Appeal to me more. Kamin Horvath Fedora Ambassadors USA On May 26, 2009, at 1:00 AM, "Juan M. Rodriguez" wrote: > > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:54 PM, inode0 wrote: > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Kamin Horvath > wrote: > > I started off with Fedora at first due to its heritage (before I > used Red > > Hat Linux), but now I see that Ubuntu often tries too hard to > appeal to the > > masses. > > How does Ubuntu try too hard to appeal to the masses? Spreading free > software to the "masses" seems to be a core goal of Ubuntu and, given > that, they should try as hard as they can to do it. > > > Fedora really conveys the true spirit of Linux and open source > > software. > > While I can heartily endorse the spirit of Fedora, I think the > implication that Ubuntu doesn't share the "true spirit" is a bit > unfair. When it comes to the Fedora foundations of Freedom and Friends > I see the same at the heart of the Ubuntu community. > > Ubuntu is largely derived from another distribution, this makes it > quite different from Fedora and it makes many of the usual comparisons > problematic. I often hear about the large contribution that the Fedora > community makes upstream. That is something to be very proud of > indeed. Expecting a distribution largely derived from another to match > Fedora in this regard I don't think is realistic or fair. The Features > and First foundations flow from this relationship between Fedora and > the upstream communities. > > > It doesn't include features to please it's fanbase or to make it > > like certain products (specifically those originating from Redmond, > > Washington), it does so because it fits the mission of the project. > > Well, I'm not quite sure what you mean by the reference to Redmond > there. Fedora includes features its users want and features that its > developers feel will drive the computing of tomorrow. And these > features sometimes directly relate to the products coming out of > Redmond. > > I'm quite in agreement with Larry on this general topic. I would > encourage ambassadors to be eager to explain to anyone about the great > qualities of the Fedora community and highlight its accomplishments. > Say what is good about Fedora every chance you get to all who will > listen. But I would also discourage ambassadors from trying to > characterize what we might perceive to be the shortcomings of any > other community. I don't feel it is our place to do that and I don't > think it presents us in the best light. Of course every ambassador > gets to make this decision, but try to say "Fedora is great because > ..." without the "and distro X is not great because ..." > > John "getting down from his soapbox" > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > I completely agree. > > My previous comment, I only gave out to some people. My standard > response is that every Linux distro is a different flavor of > Icecream. There is no one flavor that everyone likes (I like with > Choco-Mint). > > So, yeah, highlight our features, not the features other distros lack. > > -- > Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno > Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos > Sitio: http://proyectofedora.org/mexico > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aacosta at fedoraproject.org Tue May 26 15:15:33 2009 From: aacosta at fedoraproject.org (Alejandro Acosta) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 09:15:33 -0600 Subject: [Ambassadors][Event Report] Flisol 2009, Mexico DF. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6ad0ab20905260815r17f0f230p6d938480c4846370@mail.gmail.com> Congratulations Adrian, And thank you for your work and enthusiasm in having our community grow stronger. Keep up with it !! On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Adrian Alonso wrote: > Hi, > > Last Saturday I participate in Latin America Install Fest > by giving a workshop on installing Fedora and also by giving > a talk about Fedora project. > > -- Alejandro Acosta http://alejandroacosta.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaa at redhat.com Tue May 26 15:19:43 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:19:43 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 11: Virtual(ization) Reality Message-ID: <4A1C088F.3060703@redhat.com> Cutting edge virtualization technology has always been one of Fedora's strong suits and Fedora 11 looks to continue that trend. In an interview with Daniel P. Berrange, Red Hat Virt Team Engineer and Fedora Virtualization guru, we talk about the many key upgrades to virt technology in F11 focusing on areas of usability, performance and security. Fedora 11 will premiere the latest in secure and powerful virtualization technology available to users and developers. With so much to look forward to Fedora 11, it's sure to make your virtualization dreams a reality. Read the interview at: http://jaboutboul.blogspot.com/2009/05/fedora-11-virtualization-reality.html From david at gnsa.us Tue May 26 15:22:04 2009 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:22:04 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors][Event Report] Flisol 2009, Mexico DF. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Adrian Alonso wrote: > Hi, > > Last Saturday I participate in Latin America Install Fest > by giving a workshop on installing Fedora and also by giving > a talk about Fedora project. > > The event toke place at "Centro Universitario Grupo Sol" M?xico DF, > with a moderate number of participants, around 30. > > The presentation slides are available at: Slides > > post: http://aalonso.wordpress.com/ > > -- > Saludos > Adrian Alonso > http://aalonso.wordpress.com > Fedora Project Contributor > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Aalonso > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > Outstanding report. Very nice touch of posting the slides on the Presentations page, wish that was a habit for all of us. From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Tue May 26 16:39:33 2009 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 18:39:33 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome Message-ID: <200905261839.37214.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Dear Ambassadors, let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Gomesluiz from Brazil https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jensm from Germany Regards Joerg p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. 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Special Thanks to Jeroen, who was our speaker at this event and to Nicu, who was the Organizer of our Presence and together with his fellows he made a perfect Ambassador Job - besides he did not want to become a Ambassador ;) Find some blog posts about this event: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2009/05/eliberatica-day-1.html http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2009/05/eliberatica-day-2.html http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2009/05/conclusions-to-eliberatica.html http://kanarip.livejournal.com/13683.html http://kanarip.livejournal.com/13985.html http://alexxed.com/2009/05/eliberated.html http://mapleoin.bluepink.ro/perma/eLiberatica-aftermath cu Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We'll try to provide up to date respins at > the booth, and try to follow it up with another Lan Party / Install > Fest. > This I find an awesome idea. Is there a chance to speak at those type of events? -Jeroen From Alexander at mrtoasted.com Tue May 26 21:49:19 2009 From: Alexander at mrtoasted.com (Alexander) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 23:49:19 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Possible Upcoming events in Wageningen NL In-Reply-To: <4A1C5B8D.5020802@kanarip.com> References: <7f692fec0905221129s4856f41dkf6c94e80c034ce47@mail.gmail.com> <4A1C5B8D.5020802@kanarip.com> Message-ID: <9c73ddb90905261449o3062ada9y757d5313942227f5@mail.gmail.com> Well, considering it's a student-fair with tens (probably ~30) of organizations trying to get the attention of students it's a bit difficult to give really big talks. I was mostly thinking of getting some attention to the local lug (wurlug.org) and have Fedora as our personal focus and 'demo' of Linux in a work-situation. However, I was thinking of organizing an install-fest some weeks into the first period at the University for which we could promote at the fair. At this install-fest there would be more room/time for more elaborate talks. Alexander On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > On 05/22/2009 08:29 PM, Yaakov Nemoy wrote: > >> Hey List, >> >> The next event in planning is to set up a Linux booth at one of the >> fairs in august for the incoming students. This would be a great >> chance to showcase scientific apps as well as how effective Fedora can >> be for the university student. Since this is an event supported by >> students, it's also very low cost, and we'll probably end up doing >> most of it out of pocket. We'll try to provide up to date respins at >> the booth, and try to follow it up with another Lan Party / Install >> Fest. >> >> > This I find an awesome idea. Is there a chance to speak at those type of > events? > > -Jeroen > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matt at domsch.com Tue May 26 21:54:12 2009 From: matt at domsch.com (Matt Domsch) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 16:54:12 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 11 Release Parties In-Reply-To: <32561080.41242952631113.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> References: <14025496.21242952297526.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> <32561080.41242952631113.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Message-ID: <20090526215411.GA16370@domsch.com> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 07:37:15AM +0700, Truong Anh. Tuan wrote: > Hello Max, > > I am currently the only one Fedora ambassador in Vietnam but I believe that I can organize the Release Party with support from you (ideas, funding, etc.), other ambassadors (ideas), my colleagues (all my company use Fedora) and my local communities (organizing). > > I am currently member of HanoiLUG (http://www.hanoilug.org/). > I am the most active contributor for Fedora in HanoiLUG, the sponsor/maintainer for Fedora mirror here: http://virror.hanoilug.org/#fedora yea, another mirror! I've added this to the Fedora mirrorlist. This means your users won't have to edit their yum.repos.d/fedora*.repo files anymore. :-) Thanks, Matt From tuanta at iwayvietnam.com Wed May 27 04:34:50 2009 From: tuanta at iwayvietnam.com (Truong Anh. Tuan) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:34:50 +0700 (ICT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <23002122.321243316932454.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Message-ID: <21578674.261243398890331.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Hello Christos Bacharakis, ----- "Truong Anh. Tuan" wrote: > > ----- "Christos Bacharakis" wrote: > > > The first argument that I come up with is that many Ubuntu sub-projects are not upstream. For example if an Ubuntu translator, translate a gnome string, Launchpad will not upstream the string to Gnome translations so the other distributions won't have that string translated. > > > Could you tell me more about this. Also, any URL/articles? I found this in FAQ of launchpad translation: " Keywords: upstream project share translate Launchpad makes it easy for upstream projects to get the translations that are made for distribution package(s) of their software. If you're an upstream, all you need to do is export the GNU GetText file (.po) for your software's package in Ubuntu or other distributions. " What do you think? Kind regards, Tuan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kushaldas at gmail.com Wed May 27 05:36:52 2009 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:06:52 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <21578674.261243398890331.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> References: <23002122.321243316932454.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> <21578674.261243398890331.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Message-ID: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Truong Anh. Tuan wrote: > What do you think? > First of all, HTML in mails really gives headache. Please go through [1]. Secondly, the mails in this list really changed their nature. [1] http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/mailing-list-etiquette.pdf Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in From tuanta at iwayvietnam.com Wed May 27 06:47:26 2009 From: tuanta at iwayvietnam.com (Truong Anh. Tuan) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 13:47:26 +0700 (ICT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <18168601.421243406843884.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> ----- "Kushal Das" wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Truong Anh. Tuan > wrote: > > > What do you think? > > > First of all, HTML in mails really gives headache. Please go through > [1]. Sorry. I will pay attention on this before sending. > > Secondly, the mails in this list really changed their nature. > > > [1] > http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/mailing-list-etiquette.pdf > > Kushal > -- > http://fedoraproject.org > http://kushaldas.in Kind regards, Tuan From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed May 27 07:12:20 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 12:42:20 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: <2104764.01243301369645.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> References: <2104764.01243301369645.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Message-ID: <35586fc00905270012w581a6f37u56bf74b9cee163a8@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Truong Anh. Tuan wrote: > Most of People in our community are crazy with Ubuntu. A good place to start would be to study, assess and understand what is the logic behind the craziness. > I know Fedora is much better and I am thinking about a campaign to change > their mind. To do that, you need to spend time getting your feet wet in the Fedora land and, dipping into various projects and sub-projects so that you *know* what you are talking about or, arranging a campaign around. > First of all, I would like to write a full list of advantages in Fedora > against Ubuntu (in our language, Vietnamese, of course). I would really suggest against that. It is never a good thing to do a point wise rebuttal and, the spoils are just to bloody to enjoy. Instead, you could sit down and think about how "Freedom, Friends, Features, First" resonate within your community and, how you can draw up practical and real examples which demonstrate the values of the words, the thoughts behind them and, how they shape the development, the community and, the entire system that is Fedora. That should be something worth doing. -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From jensm.fedora at googlemail.com Wed May 27 07:58:14 2009 From: jensm.fedora at googlemail.com (Jens Maucher) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:58:14 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome In-Reply-To: <200905261839.37214.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200905261839.37214.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <25abb8e90905270058t2fa9583as7725b0c4fddc4d1a@mail.gmail.com> Dear Ambassadors, I am chuffed to be part of the Fedora-Ambassadors, and would like to say 'Thank you' for welcome me. I hope of good cooperation. Best regards -- Jens 'jensm' Maucher jensm at fedoraproject.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tuan > wrote: > > > Most of People in our community are crazy with Ubuntu. > > A good place to start would be to study, assess and understand what > is > the logic behind the craziness. > > > I know Fedora is much better and I am thinking about a campaign to > change > > their mind. > > To do that, you need to spend time getting your feet wet in the > Fedora > land and, dipping into various projects and sub-projects so that you > *know* what you are talking about or, arranging a campaign around. > > > First of all, I would like to write a full list of advantages in > Fedora > > against Ubuntu (in our language, Vietnamese, of course). > > I would really suggest against that. It is never a good thing to do a > point wise rebuttal and, the spoils are just to bloody to enjoy. > Instead, you could sit down and think about how "Freedom, Friends, > Features, First" resonate within your community and, how you can draw > up practical and real examples which demonstrate the values of the > words, the thoughts behind them and, how they shape the development, > the community and, the entire system that is Fedora. That should be > something worth doing. > This makes sense to me. Thanks! Kind regards, Tuan From jensm.fedora at googlemail.com Wed May 27 14:43:22 2009 From: jensm.fedora at googlemail.com (Jens Maucher) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:43:22 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Thank you Message-ID: <1243435402.14207.5.camel@localhost> Dear Ambassadors, I would like to say 'Thank you' for welcome me. I'm proud to be a part of the Fedora-Ambassadors, and i hope of a good cooperation. 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Tuan wrote: > > ----- "sankarshan" wrote: > > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Truong Anh. Tuan > > wrote: > > > > > Most of People in our community are crazy with Ubuntu. > > > > A good place to start would be to study, assess and understand what > > is > > the logic behind the craziness. > > > > > I know Fedora is much better and I am thinking about a campaign to > > change > > > their mind. > > > > To do that, you need to spend time getting your feet wet in the > > Fedora > > land and, dipping into various projects and sub-projects so that you > > *know* what you are talking about or, arranging a campaign around. > > > > > First of all, I would like to write a full list of advantages in > > Fedora > > > against Ubuntu (in our language, Vietnamese, of course). > > > > I would really suggest against that. It is never a good thing to do a > > point wise rebuttal and, the spoils are just to bloody to enjoy. > > Instead, you could sit down and think about how "Freedom, Friends, > > Features, First" resonate within your community and, how you can draw > > up practical and real examples which demonstrate the values of the > > words, the thoughts behind them and, how they shape the development, > > the community and, the entire system that is Fedora. That should be > > something worth doing. > > > > This makes sense to me. Thanks! > > Kind regards, > Tuan > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bugz.inc at gmail.com Wed May 27 15:37:47 2009 From: bugz.inc at gmail.com (Marspet **) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 17:37:47 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <35586fc00905270012w581a6f37u56bf74b9cee163a8@mail.gmail.com> <4869420.521243411272463.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Message-ID: lol:p how i see it, it would be wrong to put fedora and ubuntu as enemies.... they're both linux, but they are different distributions, for different people... to me ubuntu looks boring is just doesn't feel right... I think you should read some more about the sub-projects and stuff so you'll be able to introduce fedora to the right people... On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Emilio Simpkins wrote: > You could also try if those dont work, that Fedora just looks cooler than > Ubuntu, that blue sun is awesome O.o\ > Id try something more meaningful, but i think everything above covers > it.... > > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:01 AM, Truong Anh. Tuan wrote: > >> >> ----- "sankarshan" wrote: >> >> > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Truong Anh. Tuan >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Most of People in our community are crazy with Ubuntu. >> > >> > A good place to start would be to study, assess and understand what >> > is >> > the logic behind the craziness. >> > >> > > I know Fedora is much better and I am thinking about a campaign to >> > change >> > > their mind. >> > >> > To do that, you need to spend time getting your feet wet in the >> > Fedora >> > land and, dipping into various projects and sub-projects so that you >> > *know* what you are talking about or, arranging a campaign around. >> > >> > > First of all, I would like to write a full list of advantages in >> > Fedora >> > > against Ubuntu (in our language, Vietnamese, of course). >> > >> > I would really suggest against that. It is never a good thing to do a >> > point wise rebuttal and, the spoils are just to bloody to enjoy. >> > Instead, you could sit down and think about how "Freedom, Friends, >> > Features, First" resonate within your community and, how you can draw >> > up practical and real examples which demonstrate the values of the >> > words, the thoughts behind them and, how they shape the development, >> > the community and, the entire system that is Fedora. That should be >> > something worth doing. >> > >> >> This makes sense to me. Thanks! >> >> Kind regards, >> Tuan >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> > > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From unidentified221 at gmail.com Wed May 27 16:38:54 2009 From: unidentified221 at gmail.com (Emilio Simpkins) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:38:54 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: References: <35586fc00905270012w581a6f37u56bf74b9cee163a8@mail.gmail.com> <4869420.521243411272463.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Message-ID: Honestly, I think we need to advertise more...Idk if this is a common problem, but almost all the people I talk to have never even heard of anything but Ubuntu and just thought Fedora was something Indiana Jones wore. (possibly just because were high school kids and haven't had time to look around). I'm not talking $80 and $118 dollar bags, but a mouse pad maybe? Or maybe not. I just know that almost no one I know thinks of Fedora when they hear the word Linux. If people know we are here, then maybe they will take a look at us and do there own comparison, and see themselves what we have over Ubuntu. On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Marspet ** wrote: > lol:p > > how i see it, it would be wrong to put fedora and ubuntu as enemies.... > they're both linux, but they are different distributions, for different > people... to me ubuntu looks boring is just doesn't feel right... > I think you should read some more about the sub-projects and stuff so > you'll be able to introduce fedora to the right people... > > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Emilio Simpkins < > unidentified221 at gmail.com> wrote: > >> You could also try if those dont work, that Fedora just looks cooler than >> Ubuntu, that blue sun is awesome O.o\ >> Id try something more meaningful, but i think everything above covers >> it.... >> >> >> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:01 AM, Truong Anh. Tuan > > wrote: >> >>> >>> ----- "sankarshan" wrote: >>> >>> > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Truong Anh. Tuan >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > > Most of People in our community are crazy with Ubuntu. >>> > >>> > A good place to start would be to study, assess and understand what >>> > is >>> > the logic behind the craziness. >>> > >>> > > I know Fedora is much better and I am thinking about a campaign to >>> > change >>> > > their mind. >>> > >>> > To do that, you need to spend time getting your feet wet in the >>> > Fedora >>> > land and, dipping into various projects and sub-projects so that you >>> > *know* what you are talking about or, arranging a campaign around. >>> > >>> > > First of all, I would like to write a full list of advantages in >>> > Fedora >>> > > against Ubuntu (in our language, Vietnamese, of course). >>> > >>> > I would really suggest against that. It is never a good thing to do a >>> > point wise rebuttal and, the spoils are just to bloody to enjoy. >>> > Instead, you could sit down and think about how "Freedom, Friends, >>> > Features, First" resonate within your community and, how you can draw >>> > up practical and real examples which demonstrate the values of the >>> > words, the thoughts behind them and, how they shape the development, >>> > the community and, the entire system that is Fedora. That should be >>> > something worth doing. >>> > >>> >>> This makes sense to me. Thanks! >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> Tuan >>> >>> -- >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >>> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >>> >> >> >> -- >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list >> >> > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tuanta at iwayvietnam.com Wed May 27 16:09:42 2009 From: tuanta at iwayvietnam.com (Truong Anh. Tuan) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 23:09:42 +0700 (ICT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <22672536.71243440575478.JavaMail.tuanta@tuanta.iwayvietnam.com> Hi all, Thanks all of you for your ideas and comments. I will invite even Ubuntu fans to the upcoming Fedora Release party next week :) Kind regards, Tuan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marspet **" To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:37:47 PM GMT +07:00 Bangkok, Hanoi, Jakarta Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu lol:p how i see it, it would be wrong to put fedora and ubuntu as enemies.... they're both linux, but they are different distributions, for different people... to me ubuntu looks boring is just doesn't feel right... I think you should read some more about the sub-projects and stuff so you'll be able to introduce fedora to the right people... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at gnsa.us Wed May 27 20:30:09 2009 From: david at gnsa.us (David Nalley) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:30:09 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Connecticut film festival Message-ID: Just a ping to see if anyone is interested and close enough to represent Fedora at the Connecticut Film Festival. Why would you want to show off Fedora at a film festival? Well first because there is a heavy free software content to begin with. I've learned that people from Blender and FSF are already speaking, and plan to have booths. This would be a great opportunity to get in front of some creative types and show off Fedora to a group that traditionally we wouldn't be able to get in front of, and perhaps to recruit some talent for the recently rebooted design team. http://ctfilmfest.bside.com/2009/schedule/week/type/interactive From diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com Wed May 27 22:47:02 2009 From: diamond_ramsey at hotmail.com (David Ramsey) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 18:47:02 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 11: Virtual(ization) Reality In-Reply-To: <4A1C088F.3060703@redhat.com> References: <4A1C088F.3060703@redhat.com> Message-ID: > Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:19:43 -0400 > From: jaa at redhat.com > To: fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com; fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com; media-monitor at redhat.com > CC: > Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 11: Virtual(ization) Reality Hello Everyone, Jack, thank you for your posting. :) > Cutting edge virtualization technology has always been one of Fedora's strong suits and Fedora 11 looks to continue that trend. In an interview with Daniel P. Berrange, Red Hat Virt Team Engineer and Fedora Virtualization guru, we talk about the many key upgrades to virt technology in F11 focusing on areas of usability, performance and security. Fedora 11 will premiere the latest in secure and powerful virtualization technology available to users and developers. With so much to look forward to Fedora 11, it's sure to make your virtualization dreams a reality. Cool, I love the virtualization content. As one's dreams are a reflection of their reality in some sense. ;) ============================================ As part of my Fedora 11 release preparation, I have been reviewing the "Fedora 11 Talking Points" as well as "Release Notes." Fedora 11 Talking Points has content relevant to the Virt Improved Console - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Talking_Points Release Notes - http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f11preview/en-US/index.html within section 5.3 is my favorite Fedora 11 Virtualization information - http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f11preview/en-US/ar01s05s03.html ============================================ > Read the interview at: > http://jaboutboul.blogspot.com/2009/05/fedora-11-virtualization-reality.html Great article. Eight questions that provide insight into the present state...XEN is my friend. :) Please have a great day! :~) Thank You Sincerely =-=-=-=-= - David - =-=-=-=-= David Ramsey = Fedora Project's Japan & Maryland Ambassador dramsey at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dramsey Fedora 9 (Sulphur) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.27.23-78.2.50.fc9.i686 Fedora 10 (Cambridge) kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.i686 Fedora 11 (Leonidas) Preview kernel - vmlinuz-2.6.29.3-155.fc11.i586 = > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From arthurbuliva at gmail.com Thu May 28 11:08:11 2009 From: arthurbuliva at gmail.com (Arthur Buliva) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 14:08:11 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Laptop Stickers Message-ID: <11d4f3ae0905280408q49bcbdadx201773dfd30020b@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Does fedora have laptop stickers? I think it could be a good way to spread the news. Regards, Arthur -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anyone90 at googlemail.com Thu May 28 12:16:01 2009 From: anyone90 at googlemail.com (Michael Spahn) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 14:16:01 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Laptop Stickers In-Reply-To: <11d4f3ae0905280408q49bcbdadx201773dfd30020b@mail.gmail.com> References: <11d4f3ae0905280408q49bcbdadx201773dfd30020b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A1E8081.9000003@googlemail.com> Arthur Buliva schrieb: > Hi, > > Does fedora have laptop stickers? I think it could be a good way to > spread the news. > > Regards, > Arthur > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > Yes we have. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral#Stickers With regards, any0n3 From drkmafia at gmail.com Thu May 28 12:16:49 2009 From: drkmafia at gmail.com (oshan rubesinghe) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 17:46:49 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Laptop Stickers In-Reply-To: <11d4f3ae0905280408q49bcbdadx201773dfd30020b@mail.gmail.com> References: <11d4f3ae0905280408q49bcbdadx201773dfd30020b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <27fe641e0905280516v12c8ca69vdfaf68442603519d@mail.gmail.com> here is the sticker i got http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/stickers/kit/fedora_kit_a6.png 2009/5/28 Arthur Buliva > Hi, > > Does fedora have laptop stickers? I think it could be a good way to spread > the news. > > Regards, > Arthur > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- Kind Regards D.M. http://www.whatsupbuddy.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tatica at fedoraproject.org Thu May 28 12:10:24 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 07:40:24 +1930 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Laptop Stickers In-Reply-To: <11d4f3ae0905280408q49bcbdadx201773dfd30020b@mail.gmail.com> References: <11d4f3ae0905280408q49bcbdadx201773dfd30020b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <27a6293b0905280510v5109b4aao39155580f5bf503d@mail.gmail.com> Hello I made some weeks ago some stickers on vinyl; we put in the laptop or pc of the new users once they have install fedora on their machines. I give paper stickers usually; but the new users LOVE this ones. I made them on several sizes and shapes. Besides... is a different way to "pimp" your pc. :) (obviously pc talking... ) left-to-right: me, new girl using fedora, richzendy: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3549800750/sizes/l/ left-to-right: new boy using fedora and mine: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3418152326/sizes/l/in/set-72157613836974776/ complete set of stickers: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3417515623/in/set-72157613836974776/ close up: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3418351974/sizes/l/in/set-72157613836974776/ 2009/5/29 Arthur Buliva : > Hi, > > Does fedora have laptop stickers? I think it could be a good way to spread > the news. > > Regards, > Arthur > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" From frankly3d at gmail.com Thu May 28 12:20:24 2009 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:20:24 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Laptop Stickers In-Reply-To: <11d4f3ae0905280408q49bcbdadx201773dfd30020b@mail.gmail.com> References: <11d4f3ae0905280408q49bcbdadx201773dfd30020b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A1E8188.3050108@gmail.com> Arthur Buliva wrote: > Hi, > > Does fedora have laptop stickers? I think it could be a good way to > spread the news. > > Regards, > Arthur > Check out: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral I recently got some of: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral#GiacomoSucci_create_some_stickers_idea_for_Fedora. made for myself locally, to replace that 4coloured sticker :) Frank -- msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List Still Learning, Unicode where possible From jensm.fedora at online.de Thu May 28 14:19:33 2009 From: jensm.fedora at online.de (Jens Maucher) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 16:19:33 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Laptop Stickers In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0905280510v5109b4aao39155580f5bf503d@mail.gmail.com> References: <11d4f3ae0905280408q49bcbdadx201773dfd30020b@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0905280510v5109b4aao39155580f5bf503d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1243520373.10808.2.camel@localhost> Hello Nice, how did you produced it? :) Regards, Jens Am Freitag, den 29.05.2009, 07:40 +1930 schrieb Mar?a Leandro: > Hello > > I made some weeks ago some stickers on vinyl; we put in the laptop or > pc of the new users once they have install fedora on their machines. I > give paper stickers usually; but the new users LOVE this ones. I made > them on several sizes and shapes. Besides... is a different way to > "pimp" your pc. > > :) > > (obviously pc talking... ) > > left-to-right: me, new girl using fedora, richzendy: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3549800750/sizes/l/ > left-to-right: new boy using fedora and mine: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3418152326/sizes/l/in/set-72157613836974776/ > complete set of stickers: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3417515623/in/set-72157613836974776/ > close up: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3418351974/sizes/l/in/set-72157613836974776/ > > > > > 2009/5/29 Arthur Buliva : > > Hi, > > > > Does fedora have laptop stickers? I think it could be a good way to spread > > the news. > > > > Regards, > > Arthur > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 575 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From unidentified221 at gmail.com Thu May 28 14:22:47 2009 From: unidentified221 at gmail.com (Emilio Simpkins) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:22:47 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Laptop Stickers In-Reply-To: <4A1E8081.9000003@googlemail.com> References: <11d4f3ae0905280408q49bcbdadx201773dfd30020b@mail.gmail.com> <4A1E8081.9000003@googlemail.com> Message-ID: Those are great. Ima have some made up an hand them out.... 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URL: From dejavu87 at gmail.com Thu May 28 15:25:27 2009 From: dejavu87 at gmail.com (ali r) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 20:25:27 +0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora-ambassadors-list Digest, Vol 51, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <20090528144644.5ABDB61905E@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20090528144644.5ABDB61905E@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <91dc35e70905280825w7f6d9dbdgf5d58a94340eb278@mail.gmail.com> i have one for my laptop i made it from the provided artwork On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 7:46 PM, wrote: > Send Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-ambassadors-list-request at redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-ambassadors-list-owner at redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-ambassadors-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fedora Laptop Stickers (Michael Spahn) > 2. Re: Fedora Laptop Stickers (oshan rubesinghe) > 3. Re: Fedora Laptop Stickers (Mar?a Leandro) > 4. Re: Fedora Laptop Stickers (Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)) > 5. Re: Fedora Laptop Stickers (Jens Maucher) > 6. Re: Fedora Laptop Stickers (Emilio Simpkins) > 7. Fedora Ambassadors Welcome (JoergSimon) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 14:16:01 +0200 > From: Michael Spahn > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Laptop Stickers > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <4A1E8081.9000003 at googlemail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Arthur Buliva schrieb: > > Hi, > > > > Does fedora have laptop stickers? I think it could be a good way to > > spread the news. > > > > Regards, > > Arthur > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > Yes we have. > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral#Stickers > With regards, > any0n3 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 17:46:49 +0530 > From: oshan rubesinghe > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Laptop Stickers > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > <27fe641e0905280516v12c8ca69vdfaf68442603519d at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > here is the sticker i got > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/stickers/kit/fedora_kit_a6.png > > 2009/5/28 Arthur Buliva > > > Hi, > > > > Does fedora have laptop stickers? I think it could be a good way to > spread > > the news. > > > > Regards, > > Arthur > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > -- > Kind Regards > D.M. > http://www.whatsupbuddy.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/20090528/ebae128c/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 07:40:24 +1930 > From: Mar?a Leandro > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Laptop Stickers > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > <27a6293b0905280510v5109b4aao39155580f5bf503d at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hello > > I made some weeks ago some stickers on vinyl; we put in the laptop or > pc of the new users once they have install fedora on their machines. I > give paper stickers usually; but the new users LOVE this ones. I made > them on several sizes and shapes. Besides... is a different way to > "pimp" your pc. > > :) > > (obviously pc talking... ) > > left-to-right: me, new girl using fedora, richzendy: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3549800750/sizes/l/ > left-to-right: new boy using fedora and mine: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3418152326/sizes/l/in/set-72157613836974776/ > complete set of stickers: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3417515623/in/set-72157613836974776/ > close up: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3418351974/sizes/l/in/set-72157613836974776/ > > > > > 2009/5/29 Arthur Buliva : > > Hi, > > > > Does fedora have laptop stickers? I think it could be a good way to > spread > > the news. > > > > Regards, > > Arthur > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.iseit.net > http://www.latinux.org > http://www.latinux.com > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:20:24 +0100 > From: "Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)" > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Laptop Stickers > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <4A1E8188.3050108 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Arthur Buliva wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Does fedora have laptop stickers? I think it could be a good way to > > spread the news. > > > > Regards, > > Arthur > > > > Check out: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral > > I recently got some of: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral#GiacomoSucci_create_some_stickers_idea_for_Fedora > . > made for myself locally, to replace that 4coloured sticker :) > > Frank > > > -- > msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d > Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List > Still Learning, Unicode where possible > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 16:19:33 +0200 > From: Jens Maucher > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Laptop Stickers > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <1243520373.10808.2.camel at localhost> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello > > Nice, how did you produced it? :) > > Regards, > Jens > > Am Freitag, den 29.05.2009, 07:40 +1930 schrieb Mar?a Leandro: > > Hello > > > > I made some weeks ago some stickers on vinyl; we put in the laptop or > > pc of the new users once they have install fedora on their machines. I > > give paper stickers usually; but the new users LOVE this ones. I made > > them on several sizes and shapes. Besides... is a different way to > > "pimp" your pc. > > > > :) > > > > (obviously pc talking... ) > > > > left-to-right: me, new girl using fedora, richzendy: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3549800750/sizes/l/ > > left-to-right: new boy using fedora and mine: > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3418152326/sizes/l/in/set-72157613836974776/ > > complete set of stickers: > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3417515623/in/set-72157613836974776/ > > close up: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3418351974/sizes/l/in/set-72157613836974776/ > > > > > > > > > > 2009/5/29 Arthur Buliva : > > > Hi, > > > > > > Does fedora have laptop stickers? I think it could be a good way to > spread > > > the news. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Arthur > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 575 bytes > Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil > Url : > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/20090528/22cfc1df/attachment.bin > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:22:47 -0500 > From: Emilio Simpkins > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Laptop Stickers > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Those are great. Ima have some made up an hand them out.... > > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Michael Spahn >wrote: > > > Arthur Buliva schrieb: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Does fedora have laptop stickers? I think it could be a good way to > spread > >> the news. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Arthur > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> -- > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > >> > >> > > Yes we have. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral#Stickers > > With regards, > > any0n3 > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/20090528/5bad6dc2/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 16:45:35 +0200 > From: JoergSimon > Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: <200905281645.49913.jsimon at fedoraproject.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear Ambassadors, > > let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Slipp3d from the USA > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jciacia from the USA > > > Regards Joerg > p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List > -- > Joerg (kital) Simon > jsimon at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon > http://kitall.blogspot.com > Key Fingerprint: > 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 198 bytes > Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. > Url : > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/20090528/290673a3/attachment.bin > > ------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > End of Fedora-ambassadors-list Digest, Vol 51, Issue 11 > ******************************************************* > -- Ali Raza President Computer Cell Fedora Ambassador Department of Computer Science & Information Technology NWFP UET skype: ali.uet # +92321-986-2931 http://dejavu87.wordpress.com http://www.twitter.com/dejavu87 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaa at redhat.com Thu May 28 18:34:21 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 14:34:21 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Media and Content for next week 6/1-6/8 Message-ID: <4A1ED92D.6090602@redhat.com> Hey All, Seeing as that we slipped another week, I don't think we should stop the barrage of podcast and interviews that are coming out. There are a few more topics that I think I can cover, and will present them here as a sort of schedule for next week. Again, for those of who are interested in doing a non-english podcast, there were some good ideas and I think we should move ahead with some of those. If you are seriously interested, please reply all to this email with a proposal and outline. I will not be around Friday to help, but will be back online on Sunday. Max, Paul and anyone else should be able to help you. Paul put together a great tutorial on how to record a podcast through fedora talk voip which can be found here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_make_a_podcast My proposed topics for print interview and/or podcast are as follows: Ext4 with Eric Sandeen Thunderbird 3 with Chris Aillon Fingerprint Auth with Bastein Nocera 20 Second Startup with Harald Hoyer Please let me know what you think of those and if interested in doing a non-english podcast. Thanks, Jack From loupgaroublond at gmail.com Thu May 28 18:46:52 2009 From: loupgaroublond at gmail.com (Yaakov Nemoy) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 20:46:52 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Possible Upcoming events in Wageningen NL In-Reply-To: <4A1C5B8D.5020802@kanarip.com> Message-ID: 2009/5/26 Jeroen van Meeuwen : > On 05/22/2009 08:29 PM, Yaakov Nemoy wrote: >> >> Hey List, >> >> The next event in planning is to set up a Linux booth at one of the >> fairs in august for the incoming students. This would be a great >> chance to showcase scientific apps as well as how effective Fedora can >> be for the university student. Since this is an event supported by >> students, it's also very low cost, and we'll probably end up doing >> most of it out of pocket. ?We'll try to provide up to date respins at >> the booth, and try to follow it up with another Lan Party / Install >> Fest. >> > > This I find an awesome idea. Is there a chance to speak at those type of > events? For the booth at the student introduction days, there really isn't the chance to speak. We're hoping to use this to launch off a monthly project in the area, where there'll be more speaking opportunities. I'll keep you posted. -Yaakov -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Do you have specific information on the dates it will take place? > > -Yaakov > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From arthurbuliva at gmail.com Fri May 29 06:06:59 2009 From: arthurbuliva at gmail.com (Arthur Buliva) Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 09:06:59 +0300 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora Laptop Stickers Message-ID: <11d4f3ae0905282306y5e38eda1k6d2db6a8510fd0bf@mail.gmail.com> Which means that there are no "official" stickers but one has to make a set by themselves? Rgds Arthur On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 6:26 PM, wrote: > Send Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-ambassadors-list-request at redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-ambassadors-list-owner at redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-ambassadors-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fedora-ambassadors-list Digest, Vol 51, Issue 11 (ali r) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 20:25:27 +0500 > From: ali r > Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora-ambassadors-list Digest, Vol 51, > Issue 11 > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > Message-ID: > <91dc35e70905280825w7f6d9dbdgf5d58a94340eb278 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > i have one for my laptop i made it from the provided artwork > > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 7:46 PM, < > fedora-ambassadors-list-request at redhat.com > > wrote: > > > Send Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list submissions to > > fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > fedora-ambassadors-list-request at redhat.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > fedora-ambassadors-list-owner at redhat.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-ambassadors-list digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Fedora Laptop Stickers (Michael Spahn) > > 2. Re: Fedora Laptop Stickers (oshan rubesinghe) > > 3. Re: Fedora Laptop Stickers (Mar?a Leandro) > > 4. Re: Fedora Laptop Stickers (Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)) > > 5. Re: Fedora Laptop Stickers (Jens Maucher) > > 6. Re: Fedora Laptop Stickers (Emilio Simpkins) > > 7. Fedora Ambassadors Welcome (JoergSimon) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 14:16:01 +0200 > > From: Michael Spahn > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Laptop Stickers > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > Message-ID: <4A1E8081.9000003 at googlemail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > Arthur Buliva schrieb: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Does fedora have laptop stickers? I think it could be a good way to > > > spread the news. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Arthur > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > Yes we have. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral#Stickers > > With regards, > > any0n3 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 17:46:49 +0530 > > From: oshan rubesinghe > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Laptop Stickers > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > Message-ID: > > <27fe641e0905280516v12c8ca69vdfaf68442603519d at mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > here is the sticker i got > > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/stickers/kit/fedora_kit_a6.png > > > > 2009/5/28 Arthur Buliva > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Does fedora have laptop stickers? I think it could be a good way to > > spread > > > the news. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Arthur > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Kind Regards > > D.M. > > http://www.whatsupbuddy.com > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/20090528/ebae128c/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 07:40:24 +1930 > > From: Mar?a Leandro > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Laptop Stickers > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > Message-ID: > > <27a6293b0905280510v5109b4aao39155580f5bf503d at mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Hello > > > > I made some weeks ago some stickers on vinyl; we put in the laptop or > > pc of the new users once they have install fedora on their machines. I > > give paper stickers usually; but the new users LOVE this ones. I made > > them on several sizes and shapes. Besides... is a different way to > > "pimp" your pc. > > > > :) > > > > (obviously pc talking... ) > > > > left-to-right: me, new girl using fedora, richzendy: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3549800750/sizes/l/ > > left-to-right: new boy using fedora and mine: > > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3418152326/sizes/l/in/set-72157613836974776/ > > complete set of stickers: > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3417515623/in/set-72157613836974776/ > > close up: > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3418351974/sizes/l/in/set-72157613836974776/ > > > > > > > > > > 2009/5/29 Arthur Buliva : > > > Hi, > > > > > > Does fedora have laptop stickers? I think it could be a good way to > > spread > > > the news. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Arthur > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > tatica > > Maria Gracia Leandro > > http://www.tatica.org > > http://www.iseit.net > > http://www.latinux.org > > http://www.latinux.com > > http://www.fedora-ve.org > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > > LinuxUser= 440285 > > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:20:24 +0100 > > From: "Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)" > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Laptop Stickers > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > Message-ID: <4A1E8188.3050108 at gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > > > Arthur Buliva wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Does fedora have laptop stickers? I think it could be a good way to > > > spread the news. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Arthur > > > > > > > Check out: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral > > > > I recently got some of: > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral#GiacomoSucci_create_some_stickers_idea_for_Fedora > > . > > made for myself locally, to replace that 4coloured sticker :) > > > > Frank > > > > > > -- > > msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d > > Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List > > Still Learning, Unicode where possible > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 16:19:33 +0200 > > From: Jens Maucher > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Laptop Stickers > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > Message-ID: <1243520373.10808.2.camel at localhost> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Hello > > > > Nice, how did you produced it? :) > > > > Regards, > > Jens > > > > Am Freitag, den 29.05.2009, 07:40 +1930 schrieb Mar?a Leandro: > > > Hello > > > > > > I made some weeks ago some stickers on vinyl; we put in the laptop or > > > pc of the new users once they have install fedora on their machines. I > > > give paper stickers usually; but the new users LOVE this ones. I made > > > them on several sizes and shapes. Besides... is a different way to > > > "pimp" your pc. > > > > > > :) > > > > > > (obviously pc talking... ) > > > > > > left-to-right: me, new girl using fedora, richzendy: > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3549800750/sizes/l/ > > > left-to-right: new boy using fedora and mine: > > > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3418152326/sizes/l/in/set-72157613836974776/ > > > complete set of stickers: > > > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3417515623/in/set-72157613836974776/ > > > close up: > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/3418351974/sizes/l/in/set-72157613836974776/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/5/29 Arthur Buliva : > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Does fedora have laptop stickers? I think it could be a good way to > > spread > > > > the news. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Arthur > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: not available > > Type: application/pgp-signature > > Size: 575 bytes > > Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil > > Url : > > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/20090528/22cfc1df/attachment.bin > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 6 > > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:22:47 -0500 > > From: Emilio Simpkins > > Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Laptop Stickers > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Those are great. Ima have some made up an hand them out.... > > > > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Michael Spahn > >wrote: > > > > > Arthur Buliva schrieb: > > > > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> Does fedora have laptop stickers? I think it could be a good way to > > spread > > >> the news. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Arthur > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > >> Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > >> > > >> > > > Yes we have. > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral#Stickers > > > With regards, > > > any0n3 > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/20090528/5bad6dc2/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 7 > > Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 16:45:35 +0200 > > From: JoergSimon > > Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > Message-ID: <200905281645.49913.jsimon at fedoraproject.org> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Dear Ambassadors, > > > > let?s welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Slipp3d from the USA > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jciacia from the USA > > > > > > Regards Joerg > > p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List > > -- > > Joerg (kital) Simon > > jsimon at fedoraproject.org > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon > > http://kitall.blogspot.com > > Key Fingerprint: > > 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: not available > > Type: application/pgp-signature > > Size: 198 bytes > > Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. > > Url : > > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/20090528/290673a3/attachment.bin > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > End of Fedora-ambassadors-list Digest, Vol 51, Issue 11 > > ******************************************************* > > > > > > -- > Ali Raza > President Computer Cell > Fedora Ambassador > Department of Computer Science & Information Technology > NWFP UET > skype: ali.uet > # +92321-986-2931 > http://dejavu87.wordpress.com > http://www.twitter.com/dejavu87 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/attachments/20090528/bc61a705/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > End of Fedora-ambassadors-list Digest, Vol 51, Issue 12 > ******************************************************* > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From christoph.wickert at googlemail.com Fri May 29 19:08:15 2009 From: christoph.wickert at googlemail.com (Christoph Wickert) Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 21:08:15 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora Laptop Stickers In-Reply-To: <11d4f3ae0905282306y5e38eda1k6d2db6a8510fd0bf@mail.gmail.com> References: <11d4f3ae0905282306y5e38eda1k6d2db6a8510fd0bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1243624095.14788.121.camel@localhost.localdomain> Am Freitag, den 29.05.2009, 09:06 +0300 schrieb Arthur Buliva: > Which means that there are no "official" stickers but one has to make > a set by themselves? The stickers in the wiki are "official" stickers, but it does not make much sense if we produced the "one and only" official version say here in Europe and then pay more for shipping then the stickers are actually worth. In order to keep costs low such things can better be produced in the regions where they are needed. > > Rgds > Arthur P.S.: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#Keep_it_Short From unidentified221 at gmail.com Sat May 30 03:18:21 2009 From: unidentified221 at gmail.com (Emilio Simpkins) Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 22:18:21 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: Fedora Laptop Stickers In-Reply-To: <1243624095.14788.121.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <11d4f3ae0905282306y5e38eda1k6d2db6a8510fd0bf@mail.gmail.com> <1243624095.14788.121.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: I understand now. Any recommendations on what sort of paper to use? ( Sticker paper of course) On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Christoph Wickert < christoph.wickert at googlemail.com> wrote: > Am Freitag, den 29.05.2009, 09:06 +0300 schrieb Arthur Buliva: > > Which means that there are no "official" stickers but one has to make > > a set by themselves? > > The stickers in the wiki are "official" stickers, but it does not make > much sense if we produced the "one and only" official version say here > in Europe and then pay more for shipping then the stickers are actually > worth. In order to keep costs low such things can better be produced in > the regions where they are needed. > > > > Rgds > > Arthur > > P.S.: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#Keep_it_Short > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is so they have enough time to roll around another Release Candidate and make sure all significant bugs are ironed out. Kamin Horvath Fedora Ambassadors USA http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:mohaas05 On May 29, 2009, at 11:35 PM, Emilio Simpkins wrote: > I see that earlier this week, I got an E-mail saying that Fedora 11 > has been slipped back another week...The e-mail is very cryptic and > wont let me see whats happened...can anyone tell me possibly? > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list From ricky at fedoraproject.org Sat May 30 04:07:47 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 00:07:47 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora 11 delayed? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090530040747.GH8119@alpha.rzhou.org> On 2009-05-29 10:35:19 PM, Emilio Simpkins wrote: > I see that earlier this week, I got an E-mail saying that Fedora 11 has been > slipped back another week...The e-mail is very cryptic and wont let me see > whats happened...can anyone tell me possibly? According to the announcement at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-May/msg00011.html, they discovered a bug related to storage in Anaconda (the Fedora installer): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500808 Now that the bug is fixed, they need to rerun tests on Anaconda, then compose new media to send to the mirrors in advance, which is why they've delayed the release a week. I hope this clears things up, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Ricky Zhou wrote: > On 2009-05-29 10:35:19 PM, Emilio Simpkins wrote: > > I see that earlier this week, I got an E-mail saying that Fedora 11 has > been > > slipped back another week...The e-mail is very cryptic and wont let me > see > > whats happened...can anyone tell me possibly? > According to the announcement at > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-May/msg00011.html > , > they discovered a bug related to storage in Anaconda (the Fedora > installer): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500808 > > Now that the bug is fixed, they need to rerun tests on Anaconda, then > compose new media to send to the mirrors in advance, which is why > they've delayed the release a week. > > I hope this clears things up, > Ricky > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So this event turned out to be more like Fedora Install Fest rather than Release Party. :) We were supposed to start the event at sharp 8 AM as it is summer time and temperature goes above 40 degree Celsius during the day. I reached the place at 8 AM and was the first person to reach the venue. Few students came around 8:15 and we went into the lab to start things up. By 9 AM there were around 20-25 students of BCA department and VGLUG members. It is exam time in the department so there were less students attending the event. I started the presentation of Fedora containing Fedora 11 installation with introduction to some cool new features of Fedora 11. After my presentation Mr. Sham Arsiwala of Electromech, Ahmedabad showed some cool 3-D compiz desktop effects from his Fedora 10 lappy. I was happy to see that most of the students were using Linux in the college and were preparing for Linux Practical exam in coming few days time. Few students were keen to know how they can contribute to Fedora or any other Open Source project. I showed them http://fedoraproject.org/en/join-fedoraand explained how they can contribute to Fedora. After all this it was time to do some hands on installation of Fedora 11 Preview. I had already setup an NFS share for installation and few students tried to installed on their own. The students were very much eager to get the Free DVD of Fedora 11 but I was not able to provide them Fedora 11. We provided Fedora 10 DVDs to them just now and promised them to provide Fedora 11 after 2 weeks in my next visit to the city again for some small LUG event. I informed that they can contact local contacts for getting Fedora 11 anytime they want and also showed them following links to get Fedora free media. https://fedoraproject.org/freemedia/FreeMedia-form.html http://www.vglug.info/get-fedora-dvd I was glad to see interest of students and MSU officials for this event. The department officials want to keep one more event exclusively for students in month of August regarding participation of students in Open Source Projects. I am looking forward for having events in future here as I can see many students are interested in exploring new things. Check out the photos captured of this event from following link. http://picasaweb.google.com/nirmal.pathak/Fedora11ReleasePartyInVadodara Have FuN! -- Nirmal D Pathak. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was born free! No Gates and Windows can restrict my Freedom!! Enjoy Linux! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sure you'll get this opportunity Francesco From inode0 at gmail.com Sat May 30 18:17:32 2009 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 13:17:32 -0500 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: F11 Release Events Contest In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Francesco Ugolini wrote: > With the previous email, FAmSCo announced the Fedora 11 Release Events Contest. > > We discussed about what could be considered a good prize: we have > decided to give the possibility to the winner to join her/his regional > FUDCon. > > I invite whoever want to join the contest to: organize a Release > Events, write a report (e.g. photos, but sure, don't worry if you > can't be able to materially do them) and, at last but not least, enjoy > the emotion to share with other your experience and all the amazing > features F11 has. > > Sure you'll get this opportunity This is fantastic Francesco! There could not possibly be a better prize for an ambassador and I want to wish everyone luck and success at their release parties. John From nacross at gmail.com Sat May 30 22:58:16 2009 From: nacross at gmail.com (Neville A. Cross) Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 15:58:16 -0700 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: F11 Release Events Contest In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 11:17 AM, inode0 wrote: >> We discussed about what could be considered a good prize: we have >> decided to give the possibility to the winner to join her/his regional >> FUDCon. >> This is a wonderful prize, but only if the event is a one man show. If this is a team effort will be awkward to choose who is going to have the trip of his or her life. If it comes to me, I will change that prize (without remorse) for having one of the prominent fedora people coming here (to Nicaragua) and giving some talks. That way, all people in the team can benefit. It also will skyrocket the promotion work that one ambassador is doing in one area. But I sure will understand people keeping the proposed prize, as it is nice to go on trips. Just my two cents! Any way, I will give my best, just because I will love to have my country name be commented ;) -- Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 From Alexander at mrtoasted.com Sat May 30 23:55:29 2009 From: Alexander at mrtoasted.com (Alexander) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 01:55:29 +0200 Subject: [Ambassadors] Re: F11 Release Events Contest In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9c73ddb90905301655kfad5168o35b4def6d00d0464@mail.gmail.com> Maybe we need a top three of events, with prizes accordingly ;) At the moment there are 13 events registered an the wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party#Upcoming_Release_Parties_-_Fedora_11 And I'm sure there will be some more of which there must be some really original ones. I agree that for team-efforts something for the whole group/team/location would be more appropriate then to seclude one person from the group and give them a personal prize. I am not sure what would be a cool prizes to give to the most original groups though, any other ideas/suggestions? grtz, Alexander/dreamer On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Neville A. Cross wrote: > On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 11:17 AM, inode0 wrote: > >> We discussed about what could be considered a good prize: we have > >> decided to give the possibility to the winner to join her/his regional > >> FUDCon. > >> > > This is a wonderful prize, but only if the event is a one man show. If > this is a team effort will be awkward to choose who is going to have > the trip of his or her life. > > If it comes to me, I will change that prize (without remorse) for > having one of the prominent fedora people coming here (to Nicaragua) > and giving some talks. That way, all people in the team can benefit. > It also will skyrocket the promotion work that one ambassador is doing > in one area. But I sure will understand people keeping the proposed > prize, as it is nice to go on trips. > > Just my two cents! > > Any way, I will give my best, just because I will love to have my > country name be commented ;) > > -- > Neville > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v > Linux User # 473217 > > -- > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > Fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am not sure what would be a cool prizes to give to the most original groups though,any other ideas/suggestions?grtz,Alexander/dreamerOn Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Neville A. Crosswrote: On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 11:17 AM, inode0wrote:>> We discussed about what could be considered a good prize: we have >> decided to give the possibilit y to the winner to join her/his regional >> FUDCon. >>This is a wonderful prize, but only if the event is a one man show. If this is a team effort will be awkward to choose who is going to have the trip of his or her life.If it comes to me, I will change that prize (without remorse) for having one of the prominent fedora people coming here (to Nicaragua) and giving some talks. That way, all people in the team can benefit. It also will skyrocket the promotion work that one ambassador is doing in one area. But I sure will understand people keeping the proposed prize, as it is nice to go on trips.Just my two cents!Any way, I will give my best, just because I will love to have my country name be commented ;) Neville https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yn1v Linux User # 473217 Fedoraambassadorslist mailing list Fedoraambassadorslist at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedoraambassadorslist -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All I got was Windows Vista. > Is there any Wordpress Theme designed to use for A Linux blog? Please > help me find one.This one seems to match the fedora default Nodoko theme colors to a large extent. And it's under a CC license. http://www.freewpthemes.net/preview/presentedTry googling around and you should turn up something more closer. fedoradesignlist is also a good place to post in this case. Gireesh Sreekantan BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora http://enigmail.mozdev.org/iEYEARECAAYFAkohVrgACgkQji0bnveIaEZq1QCcDtsEwnT7GMwMiqydN1adZG6G 8XcAn2a6fDCjX2BNXY+gaY6oYemvNfz+ =mRAg END PGP SIGNATURE Fedoraindia mailing list Fedoraindia at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedoraindia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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BTW, stay sure we will find a way to prize the team that work behind the prize :) Naturally we will talk with the winner if she/he want to modify the prize. To Neville A. Cross: sure we will work with the winner to see how the prize could be used. Regards Francesco Ugolini From mspevack at redhat.com Sun May 31 11:22:18 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 13:22:18 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] Gerold and I need a favor Message-ID: Would someone who was at FUDCon Boston 2009 please point us at a photo of them wearing their shirt, both the front & the back, or just email us one off-list? We have images of the *design* of the shirt for FUDCon Berlin, but we also need a photo of what the shirt actually looks like *on* someone (front & back) to show to a potential producer in Europe. Thanks, Max From mspevack at redhat.com Sun May 31 12:11:58 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 14:11:58 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ambassadors] SOLVED -- Re: Gerold and I need a favor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 31 May 2009, Max Spevack wrote: > Would someone who was at FUDCon Boston 2009 please point us at a photo > of them wearing their shirt, both the front & the back, or just email > us one off-list? > > We have images of the *design* of the shirt for FUDCon Berlin, but we > also need a photo of what the shirt actually looks like *on* someone > (front & back) to show to a potential producer in Europe. Thank you! http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3365/3181883111_4463c8a279_b.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3503/3182715348_06b04f657c_b.jpg From foxhaund at gmail.com Sun May 31 12:33:47 2009 From: foxhaund at gmail.com (Foxhaund) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 16:33:47 +0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Russian Fedora Message-ID: <1AF70560-2AF3-4A4C-9AB2-6A2CCCC5B9EC@gmail.com> Hello everybody! Greetings from Russia. Russian Ambassadors want to know - what is Russian Fedora? Is it official spin-off or it's unlegal? "Usage of trademark was granted to Russian Fedora by agreement between Red Hat and other company that represent it here, AFAIK." Is it true? I wanna know, becouse i should know what to tell people about this project. "Max Spevack was on presentation on Russian Fedora launch.". Max, can you comment this? __________________ Best regards, Dmitry Vorotnikov | foxhaund at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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