[Ambassadors] Help me: Fedora vs. Ubuntu

Larry Cafiero larry.cafiero at gmail.com
Tue May 26 02:29:49 UTC 2009


Christos makes some good observations, but Juan's is a good suggestion and I
think we should accent our positives.

In my opinion -- and this may not be the prevailing one -- I don't believe
that this should be treated as a football game where we congregate into fans
waving banners and scarves -- "Go Fedora, Beat Ubuntu!" -- because I don't
believe the FOSS mindset should be like that (and I hope it isn't). Nor
should Ubuntu users think this way, of course, but they'll have to address
that themselves.

Ubuntu brings a lot to the FOSS table -- just as OpenSUSE and Mandriva and
others do -- and all should be recognized for their contributions.
Improvements made by one distro uplifts everyone else.

Many people start off with Ubuntu, including me. I still use Xubuntu on two
machines in my computer lab in Felton. But I ended up with -- and my distro
of choice is -- Fedora because of the quality and innovation, the
camaraderie within those working on it (pointing to all of you), and the
dedication of those of us involved are intangible qualities that make Fedora
superior.

[That and our record of getting project and improvements therein upstream .
. . .]

Just an observation here, but you know your audience best, Tuan.

Larry Cafiero

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Juan M. Rodriguez <nushio at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I always sway people with this phrase: "Want to see tomorrow's Ubuntu? Try
> Fedora today!" then proceed to explain how features are more important, and
> the Fedora Philosofy:
>
> Freedom, Friends, Features, First
>
> It's worked out for me so far.
>
> -Nushio
>
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Christos Bacharakis <cmpahar at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:29 AM, Truong Anh. Tuan <tuanta at iwayvietnam.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Most of People in our community are crazy with Ubuntu.
>>> I know Fedora is much better and I am thinking about a campaign to change
>>> their mind.
>>>
>>> First of all, I would like to write a full list of advantages in Fedora
>>> against Ubuntu (in our language, Vietnamese, of course).
>>> Could you please help me some good sources and ideas (both for the
>>> advantage list and the full process to change their mind).
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Tuan
>>>
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>>
>>
>> The first argument that I come up with is that many Ubuntu sub-projects
>> are not upstream. For example if an Ubuntu translator, translate a gnome
>> string, Launchpad will not upstream the string to Gnome translations so the
>> other distributions won't have that string translated.
>> An another thing is that Ubuntu uses many tools like Launchpad which are
>> closed source. Hey, we are a FOSS community over here.
>>
>> A personal argument is that Ubuntu is trying to be more like Windows and
>> less than a typical Linux distribution. Evolution is good, but don't try to
>> be more like your enemy for wining more fans. It's not right!
>>
>> I am a little bit tired so I can't think anything else right now. Hope to
>> helped you. Good luck.
>>
>> --
>> Christos Bacharakis
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>>
>>
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>
>
> --
> Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno
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