Thanks for your opinions Robert, but in my opinion Marketing List and Ambassadors list should go side-by-side having inter-list interaction, so that the community could get ideas from the public, refine them in private list (Ambassadors List) and create a common marketing plan. I don't think that ambassadors need to join greater marketing list. And ambassadors do not take all decisions in private, all the policies and strategies are made keeping the public in view. May be someone from the SC will talk to you in detail. Regards, Abhishek Singh <div>On 3/11/06, Robert 'Bob' Jensen <<a href="mailto:marketing-list@fedoralinks.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> marketing-list@fedoralinks.org</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi All, Sorry I am cross posting this between the marketing list and ambassadors list. Please reply on the marketing list if you would. I am of the opinion that the marketing project has been allowed to die and be carelessly replaced by the Ambassadors project that was born from the marketing project. I see that we can do things several ways. We can continue on ignoring the Fedora community posting requests for input to the private ambassadors list that a small number will ever see or we can be sure to become active in the marketing list involving the community as a whole in how Fedora is marketed. Why have the private list? The privacy of the Ambassadors list has a purpose and should be maintained in my opinion. One of the things it was designed to do is help protect the limited advertising resources of the Foundation by preventing the pilfering of media and other goodies like t-shirts. However much of the "noise" on this list in the past could have been better with community input from the marketing list. What can the marketing list bring that the ambassadors can not? The marketing list can bring greater visibility from the community by being a public sounding board for ideas. Many of these ideas can be hashed out in public, refined in private and still have the "splash" that may be desired. I would urge all ambassadors to be part of the greater marketing list and also to avoid cross posting of information between the lists unless it is absolutely needed. Fedora is a community driven project, in fact community may very well be the most important part of Fedora. If the Ambassadors are to take over all the marketing in private we are in my opinion destined for failure. We will have removed the community from the drivers seat and made it a second class passenger. -- Robert 'Bob' Jensen <<a href="mailto:marketing-list@fedoralinks.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> marketing-list@fedoralinks.org</a>> Fedora Marketing Projects -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBEEfp26KTDrkLrC8YRAgaSAJ971oH6OFC04M4Ny7exmjjCj4UWeACdGe7J fC2astFOG6SfVHw0LgmNAYs= =ktSs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list <a href="mailto:Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com</a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list</a> </blockquote></div>