<div dir="ltr"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 10:00 AM, susmit shannigrahi <<a href="mailto:thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com">thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <magie> MagieAntonio <susmit> SusmitShannigrahi <shambo> shambo <born2linux> EngelsAntonio <dipanjanc> DipanjanChakraborty <rishikesh> Rishikesh <rishikesh> RishikeshSharma <btoogood> btoogood <susmit> btoogood, your wiki name please (FirstnameLastname) <btoogood> BrendonToogood <susmit> what do we have on agenda? <dipanjanc> t-shirts <rishikesh> apac polo shirt <susmit> ok <rishikesh> upcoming events for q4 <rishikesh> chinese forum support <dipanjanc> we were talking about the design and price <rishikesh> any chinese member here? <susmit> the design can be "outsourced" to art team <susmit> are you aware of the service? <dipanjanc> yes <shambo> yes <dipanjanc> does the price depend on the design? <dipanjanc> or is there a fixd one? <susmit> rarely, when you produce in bulk, its fixed <btoogood> i reckon a fixed price myself <dipanjanc> how much is it around? <dipanjanc> and can we customize it for our region/ <shambo> !! <susmit> dipanjanc, +1 <shambo> Its about 25 euro <btoogood> as because of different currencies around apac if people are going to order in bulk just a thought <shambo> dipanjanc, +1 <susmit> shambo, too high a price, we produced some in ~INR250 :) <dipanjanc> 25 euro is around how much in INR? <btoogood> approx $54 NZD <rishikesh> 1592 inr <susmit> very conservative estimate, excluding shipping, ~10USD * Subhodip has quit (No route to host) <susmit> but the question is <dipanjanc> 1592 INR is too high <rishikesh> yea <susmit> who is going to produce them and how to ship it <susmit> ? <rishikesh> i think 10 euro is better <dipanjanc> can we take susmit's suggestion of INR 250? <rishikesh> we will contact famsco for this * Subhodip (n=<a href="mailto:subhodip@117.201.96.141">subhodip@117.201.96.141</a>) has joined #fedora-meeting <susmit> Initially, it will involve a lot of money <susmit> rishikesh, that's fine <rishikesh> becasue all the financial matter require to contact famsco <dipanjanc> if we want to customize it, who's doing the design? <susmit> they are unlikely to provide support for something non-event <rishikesh> they have already done for the european ambassadors <btoogood> ok i have just had a thought, now dont bite me, but why not get the design done and the ambassadors get them printed for there regions, according to colour of the polo <btoogood> as different countries different prices for printing, just a thought <Subhodip> i guess it was for fudcon <susmit> EMEA has done that..my friend shambo shandflm SMParrish sm|CPU Sonar_Gal Sonar_Guy sonar_logger3 spevack spot spstarr_work stickster StillBob Subhodip susmit <susmit> and yes, Subhodip is right <dipanjanc> so, what's the solution? <shambo> we must calculate the oder no first as with that pricing will vary .i.e if we are ordering <Subhodip> getting a polo shirt printed will be expensive <susmit> Subhodip, not much <susmit> ~10USD <rishikesh> for that quatity, we need to put up the wiki for polo shirt request <rishikesh> for that quantity, we need to put up the wiki for polo shirt request <magie> it's around 7 us dollars in the philippines <Subhodip> so what about normal tees ..then btoogood's suggestion can be done <susmit> magie, nice :) <susmit> Subhodip, we <susmit> have two things <susmit> one production cost, and another shipping cost <magie> normal t-shirts go for 4.3 us dollars <dipanjanc> btoogood's suggestion of getting the design done and printing it locally is good. <dipanjanc> is it not? <rishikesh> lets fix one thing first <susmit> yes <Subhodip> if we have a specific design and if we print them locally as per btoogood then shipping cost <Subhodip> is not needed i guess <susmit> first thing is, lets approach art team for a cooool design. <rishikesh> it should be polo shirt or t-shirt <susmit> :) <rishikesh> to me i think polo shirt is better than th-shirt <Subhodip> +1 <dipanjanc> whichever is more economic :) <rishikesh> 'casue in any event, polo shirt is better <Subhodip> tee shirt <susmit> rishikesh, me, me , me too... <btoogood> tee shirt is better in summer <rishikesh> t-shirt is very casual <rishikesh> not so formal <dipanjanc> we mostly have summer in India <Subhodip> eh .. i am wearing fedora tee now ..its not casual <susmit> what others say? <rishikesh> 'cause we represent fedora <dipanjanc> casual is not a factor. I think <EvilBob> Get Fedora skirts so you stand out in the crowd... <rishikesh> what we do is what fedora is * EvilBob runs <dipanjanc> whatever is good will do <Subhodip> EvilBob, lol * susmit runs afet EvilBob <susmit> after <shambo> tees will be better <btoogood> +1 for tees <Subhodip> so what about if we have a design and let the ambassador print on what he wan t <rishikesh> so representing fedora on people event by wearing t-shirt is not a good idea to me <Subhodip> want <dipanjanc> +1 for tees <susmit> hold on for a second <susmit> what about girls? <Subhodip> rishikesh, you are getting it wrong <dipanjanc> girls wear t-shirts <dipanjanc> don't they? <susmit> but the _same_ t-shirt? <btoogood> they do here <Subhodip> susmit, yes <dipanjanc> they do wear the same t-shirts. * mdomsch (n=<a href="mailto:mdomsch@cpe-70-124-62-55.austin.res.rr.com">mdomsch@cpe-70-124-62-55.austin.res.rr.com</a>) has joined #fedora-meeting <susmit> I have no problem, but why not ask the girls? <btoogood> uni-sex tees <dipanjanc> But, incase they are reluctant, we must think of an alternative <shambo> if being formal is the case full sleeve shirts is a better option <dipanjanc> I am not much conversant about ladies-wears <susmit> lets post this idea on list..and ask for "criticism" :) <rishikesh> ok <shambo> +1 <Subhodip> +1 <rishikesh> +1 <btoogood> +1 <dipanjanc> +1 <susmit> +1 :) * btoogood just asked my wife she thinks tees <dipanjanc> will differ from country to country <susmit> and? we are waiting with our finger crossed :D <rishikesh> fedora is the voice of people, so lets put up on wiki for vote <dipanjanc> have we finalised for the men? <dipanjanc> or do we vote for it? <btoogood> lets take a vote <susmit> lets discuss it on the list first...then we 'll have a vote * Subhodip thinks normal tee is better .. but not the white one ..if printed on black/blue ..its great <dipanjanc> if we go for a vote, we must also mention the estimated price against each option <shambo> about the costing : we should select a nation where cost of printing and cost of tees/polos will be low <btoogood> +1 for blue <dipanjanc> and shipping <shambo> withn APAC <rishikesh> we should go for fedora colour <shambo> shipping will be less than that of US <susmit> considering APAC is a huge region, why don't we produce it two or three countries.. <Subhodip> first get the artwork done .. then we can have it printed in our respective countries <susmit> but lets not get into details first <susmit> Subhodip, right <dipanjanc> then what about the idea of printing it locally? <Subhodip> why bother about shipping right now <shambo> subhodip +1 <susmit> dipanjanc, hold on <susmit> Lets define the tasks <dipanjanc> ok <shambo> ok <rishikesh> ok <susmit> 1. Post to the list asking for suggestions <btoogood> ok <susmit> 2. Request the art team along with Ideas <susmit> 3. Decide whether it will be a t-shirt or whatever <susmit> 4. Who is going to produce and store and ship <susmit> 5. How many? <susmit> EOF <rishikesh> ok <rishikesh> +1 <shambo> +1 <dipanjanc> done <susmit> anything anyone want to add? <rishikesh> lets do this onefirst <dipanjanc> can we also list the estimated price when we decide? <rishikesh> good idea <btoogood> good idea <susmit> yes we can <dipanjanc> which point does this add to? 6.? <susmit> dipanjanc, why don't you put up a wiki page on the same? <shambo> i think we should consider both pricing of tees and polos <dipanjanc> ok. I will do it. And let you know <susmit> thanks <rishikesh> ok <susmit> so may we move? <shambo> it will help in price comparison and better decision making <rishikesh> thats the end of discussion for shirts <dipanjanc> yes what's next? <rishikesh> now lets move forward for the events <btoogood> yip lets <shambo> yes <susmit> anyone from china? <rishikesh> i think we should go for a event in which all regions members can meet with <susmit> I guess no...so no point discussing agenda 2 <rishikesh> each other ambassadors <dipanjanc> we are from different countries <Subhodip> susmit, link to agenda 2 please <susmit> Subhodip, <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-07" target="_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-07</a> <susmit> agenda 3 <rishikesh> i think chinese people are not avaibale on the meeting <Subhodip> susmit, thanks <dipanjanc> q4 events <susmit> yes <rishikesh> yea <rishikesh> i have too a event on december 7 <magie> ! <susmit> magie, <susmit> please go on <magie> OT: we have an upcoming event on Sept 20, Q3 <magie> before we talk about Q4 <susmit> oops...the budget for Q3 is closed. But please go on <magie> funding was allocated for apac c/o Harish Pillay <susmit> oh, its listed <susmit> ok <susmit> SFD>' <susmit> ? <magie> software freedom day <magie> <a href="http://bluepoint.com.ph/sfd08/" target="_blank">http://bluepoint.com.ph/sfd08/</a> <magie> just want to ask how we go about getting help/funds <magie> if anyone has done it before <susmit> if you have an event, you need to enlist the event before that quarter's budget is closed <magie> yes we've done that, what's next? <rishikesh> the guidelines is also avaibale on the wiki <susmit> if famsco approve that, you will get funded <magie> budget is approved but how do we get the fund? <rishikesh> on december 7, 2008 i have Fedora 10 Realease party and install fest at Imphal,Manipur <rishikesh> this is the first fedora event in my region <susmit> I am not sure, probably you receive the fund after the event, I was so told...anyone from FamsCo here? <born2linux> magie, maybe we can just coordinate with famsco or harish about your inquiry <susmit> magie, anything else? <dipanjanc> I think we can move on <rishikesh> ok <susmit> rishikesh, have you enlisted your event? <magie> it's ok, I think rishikesh is excited about his event <susmit> :) <rishikesh> yea <rishikesh> you can check on the wiki <susmit> have you estimated expense and mailed famsco? <rishikesh> i would like to proposed an event in which apac ambassadors can meet with each other <rishikesh> nope <susmit> do that <Subhodip> rishikesh, do one thing at a time <btoogood> that would be good but very expensive though going from one country to another <rishikesh> ok <susmit> btoogood, +1 <Subhodip> btoogood, +1 <born2linux> +1 <susmit> rishikesh, why do you think meeting in person is very necessary? <dipanjanc> btoogood, +1 <btoogood> +1 <dipanjanc> we are meetin here <rishikesh> do i need to explain all the detail expenses <rishikesh> while submitting <susmit> as minutely as possible <rishikesh> ok <btoogood> ok <susmit> Subhodip, can you have one such event? <susmit> may be at your place? or nit dgp? <susmit> I meant release event... <shambo> susmit we have a event on 20 sept <susmit> shambo, just a second <susmit> please <Subhodip> i need to talk to people in my college * stickster is now known as stickster_afk <susmit> do it please <Subhodip> ok <dipanjanc> yes. that will be great <susmit> dipanjanc, you can do that too at your lug? <dipanjanc> susmit: what about your place? <dipanjanc> yes I can. I suppose <susmit> go on and organise <susmit> shambo, please <dipanjanc> will need some details about how it's done <shambo> susmit we have a event on 20 sept <susmit> dipanjanc, mail me offlist <dipanjanc> ok <susmit> is it listed <susmit> ? * makghosh (n=<a href="mailto:Joy@117.201.96.28">Joy@117.201.96.28</a>) has joined #fedora-meeting <shambo> check out <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents" target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents</a> <susmit> which one? * warren (n=warren@redhat/wombat/warren) has joined #fedora-meeting <shambo> owner A. Mani <susmit> oh..ok <susmit> SFD <shambo> yes <susmit> do you need any assistance? <susmit> not money <susmit> <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Budget" target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Budget</a> does not show your event <shambo> yes can i attend it . im not an ambassador <susmit> of course <shambo> ok <dipanjanc> can anyone give me the venue in Kolkata for this? <shambo> where is the event in kolkata no details is given <susmit> but that depends on the organisers, within fedora, if you are not an Ambassador its not a problem.. <susmit> but why don't be one? <Subhodip> no offence ...aren't we deviating from agenda ..we are still stuck with Q3 .. <susmit> Subhodip, and its the last one :D <susmit> but yes, shambo mail Mani A. <susmit> anyone else? <shambo> ok <susmit> anything more anyone want to discuss? <susmit> 5 <rishikesh> yes <susmit> rishikesh, <rishikesh> what are resources i can avail for my event <susmit> what do you need? <rishikesh> my event is fedora 10 release and i need fedora 10 dvd media <rishikesh> it is not released now <susmit> if you receive money, you need to take care of all those things from your budget <rishikesh> but when it is released <susmit> please search the wiki <shambo> there is a alpha release <rishikesh> when submiting budget <rishikesh> can i include all the requirements <rishikesh> iam going for a final release not alpha <rishikesh> like blank dvd cost <susmit> estimate..for example....for producing 100 media I need 100*9=900 INR for media and 100*1 =100 INR for stickers..So 1000INR for media and so on... <rishikesh> projector hiring cost <btoogood> stickers? <susmit> cd labels <btoogood> true <susmit> rishikesh, <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/Organization" target="_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/Organization</a> <susmit> go through it. <susmit> anything more? <rishikesh> ok <susmit> 5 <susmit> 4 <susmit> 3 <susmit> 2 -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A <a href="http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit" target="_blank">http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit</a> ============================================= -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list <a href="mailto:Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com">Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com</a> <a href="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list</a> </blockquote></div> Updated the wiki on the t-shirts: <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/APAC_Ambassadors_T-Shirts">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/APAC_Ambassadors_T-Shirts</a> -- Yours sincerely, Dipanjan Chakraborty </div>