From stickster at gmail.com Mon Dec 1 17:19:10 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:19:10 -0500 Subject: FUDCon F11 Boston Message-ID: <20081201171910.GO18297@localhost.localdomain> FUDCon F11 Boston -- News Update! ================================= * All of our location information is confirmed -- we will be holding the conference as predicted, at MIT in the Sloan Building. There will be plentiful space for hackfests and BarCamp sessions over the course of the weekend. * FUDPub will be held at Flat Top Johnny's on Saturday night (January 10) from 6:00-10:00pm. * The wiki remains open for registration. Please remember to note your shirt size, whether you prefer vegetarian fare for lunch on Saturday, and any other important information (in the "Comments" section). * The hotel group rate is good until DECEMBER 19. After that, it will be up to the hotel to decide whether or not to extend their offer of $99/night. So sign up now! And here's some further news to sweeten the pot -- the One Laptop Per Child and SugarLabs communities will be joining us for FUDCon, to address areas of common interest like packaging and building for these unique projects, and to talk to Fedora community members about getting involved. This should make FUDCon a very exciting event and I look forward to seeing everyone there who can make it! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jwboyer at gmail.com Tue Dec 2 13:56:07 2008 From: jwboyer at gmail.com (Josh Boyer) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:56:07 -0500 Subject: F11 Naming: Sulphur -> Cambridge -> ? Message-ID: <20081202135607.GA2344@yoda.jdub.homelinux.org> Hi All, It's that time of year again. Time to start the naming process for the next Fedora release. To recap on the rules: 1) must have some link to Cambridge More specifically, the link should be Cambridge is a and is a Where is the same for both 2) The link between and Cambridge cannot be the same as between Sulphur and Cambridge. That link was "both are cities". We're doing the name collection differently this year than in the past. Contributors wishing to make a suggestion are asked to go to the F11 naming wiki page, and add an entry to the suggestion table found there: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_11 The naming submissions are open starting now until Dec 8. The rest of the schedule is outlined on the wiki page. So, put on your thinking caps and come up with some really good suggestions! Happy naming. josh From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Tue Dec 2 15:50:06 2008 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:50:06 -0500 Subject: Fedora Weekly News #154 Message-ID: <1228233006.32322.1287837371@webmail.messagingengine.com> = Fedora Weekly News Issue 154 = Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 153 for the week ending November 30th, 2008. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue154 This week many of us enjoyed Thanksgiving turkey and we all enjoyed a full helping of Fedora 10 and were left stunned and satisfied. In Announcements the availability of third-party repositories and end-of-life of Fedora 8 are detailed. Developments catches up with "Power Management and Filesystem Parameters" and a promising initiative to bring the man pages up-to-date. Artwork passes on some kudos for the "Release Banner for the Website" and the demo of some awesome "Stickers". Don't forget to peruse the SecurityAdvisories! If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[1]. FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Oisin Feeley, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join CONTENTS #154 1.1 Announcements 1.1.1 Fedora 10 1.1.2 Other 1.2 Developments 1.2.1 Python Bump to 2.6 in Rawhide 1.2.2 Power Management and Filesystem Parameters 1.2.3 Strange Resolution Problems 1.2.4 Cron Confusion 1.2.5 Man Pages to be Mandatory and Upstreamed 1.3 Artwork 1.3.1 Stickers 1.3.2 Release Banner for the Website 1.3.3 The Download Page 1.4 Security Advisories 1.4.1 Fedora 10 Security Advisories 1.4.2 Fedora 9 Security Advisories 1.4.3 Fedora 8 Security Advisories == Announcements == In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/ Contributing Writer: Max Spevack It was a pretty quiet week in Fedora-land. Nothing really happened, so I guess we can just move ahead to the next section of Fedora Weekly News. Wait, what? Oh, yeah... how silly of me! I guess there was that one small announcement, like the general availability of Fedora 10 on November 25. Fedora 10 Keeping with tradition, the Fedora Project Leader Paul Frields wrote[1] a thank you message to the Fedora community on the eve of the release. Also keeping with tradition, on the morning of the release, a "whimsical" announcement was sent[2] out on the morning of the release. Naturally, some of the third-party packagers of Fedora (RPM Fusion and ATrpms) made their repositories available for Fedora 10 on the release day also [3,4]. Chitlesh Goorah reminded[5] the community that the Spins SIG has released seven Fedora 10 respins, all of which can be downloaded from spins.fedoraproject.org. Finally, Red Hat's CEO Jim Whitehurst sent a congratulatory email to the Fedora community [6]. [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-November/msg00013.html [2] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-November/msg00015.html [3] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-November/msg00014.html [4] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-November/msg00016.html [5] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-November/msg00022.html [6] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-November/msg00019.html === Other === Fedora 8 will reach its end-of-life[7] on January 7th (07-01-2009), according[8] to Jon Stanley. [7] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LifeCycle [8] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-November/msg00021.html == Developments == In this section the people, personalities and debates on the @fedora-devel mailing list are summarized. Contributing Writer: Oisin Feeley === Python Bump to 2.6 in Rawhide === The success of Fedora's dogged persistence in pursuing an "upstream all possible patches" methodology was anecdotally highlighted during a thread in which Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams warned that all Python packages in rawhide would soon be affected. An apology was made[1] by Ignacio for a dramatic subject-line ("It's all ASPLODY!), but he explained that "[w]ithin the next few days Python 2.6 will be imported into Rawhide. This means that EVERY single Python-based package in Rawhide will be broken, and that we'll need to slog our way through rebuilding it package by package." Ignacio suggested that the list of approximately seven hundred packages could be examined with a: repoquery --disablerepo=\* --enablerepo={development,rawhide} \ --whatrequires "python(abi)" | sort | less Ignacio expressed[2] willingness to trigger the rebuilds for some of the packages but "[...] there's no way I can get [700] done in a timely fashion." [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg01809.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg01813.html Ville Skytt? asked[3] "[i]f a package installs some *.py, *.pyc, *.pyo somewhere else than in versioned python dirs, and the source *.py is python 2.6 compatible, will the *.pyc and *.pyo compiled with 2.5 break with 2.6?" Ignacio confirmed[4] that such packages should not need to be recompiled as the API had not changed beween versions 2.5 and 2.6. [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg01826.html [4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg01837.html Tom 'spot' Callaway suggested[5] using a separate Koji tag so that Ignacio could use a process similar to that which Tom had employed for the transition from PERL-5.8 to PERL-5.10. Jeremy Katz remembered[6] that such tagging had been used for past bumping of Python and suggested "It's good to at least get the stack up through yum and friends building and working before thrusting the new python upon everyone as otherwise it's quite difficult for people to even try to fix things on their own." A list of the essential packages was made[7] by Seth Vidal and Konstantin Ryabitsev. [5] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg01823.html [6] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg01815.html [7] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg01820.html On the foot of some skeptical questions from Les Mikesell Tom reported[8] that the end result of following such a process for PERL was that "[Fedora is] closer to perl upstream than we've ever been, and we have most of the long-standing perl bugs resolved (and we fixed the "RHEL slow perl" bug without even being aware of it as a byproduct of the methodology). The fact that you just noticed it means that we must have done some things properly, you're welcome. :)" [8] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg01839.html On 28-11-2008 Ignacio reported[9] that "[...] we're going to go ahead and commit 2.6 to Rawhide and start the rebuild of all Python packages in Rawhide. So please keep your hands off any packages that require python(abi) until we're done. Or if you like, you can help out by bumping the release and building against the dist-f11-python tag." He later explained[10] that python-2.6 would appear in rawhide "[...] within 10 days if all goes well. Then releng will need to fold the tag back into f11-dist" and confirmed[11] that the version in Fedora 11 will be Python-2.6. [9] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02126.html [10] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02130.html [11] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02136.html On 30-11-2008 Ignacio posted[12] the results of the "first cycle of rebuilds" and categorized the failures into several convenient classes. On 01-12- 2008 Ignacio posted the results of round two which he explained[13][14] were "a set of packages that a different net caught. I used python(abi)=2.5 for the first set in order to get the low-level packages, and this one uses libpython2.5.so.1.0." The latest follow-up, on 01-12-2008 consisted[15] of the list of packages which "[...] contain compiled Python code but do not have a Requires of python(abi). Please note that this is a packaging bug as the bytecode is specific to the version of the Python it was compiled with. Whether this is a problem with rpm's macros or with the package itself must be dealt with on a case-by-case basis." [12] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02201.html [13] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00014.html [14] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00028.html [15] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00041.html === Power Management and Filesystem Parameters === A series of three disk-power management proposals were published[1] as an RFC by Matthew Garrett. They were generally well-received and discussion was mostly focused on ways to instrument the kernel to measure any resulting changes and to ensure that disk lifetimes are monitored carefully. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02047.html The first, least controversial, proposal is to get Ingo Molnar's relatime patch upstream. An extensive discussion in LWN[2] explains that this allows applications to keep track of when files have been read without having to constantly update the last file access time, thus reducing the number of writes to the disk. [2] http://www.lwn.net/Articles/244829/ Matthew's second proposal was to "[...] increase the value of dirty_writeback_centisecs. This will result in dirty data spending more time in memory before being pushed out to disk. This is probably more controversial. The effect of this is that a power interruption will potentially result in more data being lost." The third proposal was to enable laptop-mode[3] by default in order to mitigate the second change. [3] cat /usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-2.6.27.5/Documentation/laptops/laptop-mode.txt EricSandeen was interested[4] in how Matthew would measure the effects on power and performance, whether it was possible to identify individual applications causing disk accesses, and whether disk spin-down should be considered. When Matthew replied[5] that it would be difficult to monitor disk access without causing further disk access David Woodhouse suggested using blktrace and this was eagerly recognized[6] by Matthew as exactly what he needed. [4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02048.html [5] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02052.html [6] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02093.html Eric's spin-down suggestion was confirmed: "Yes, the long-term plan involves allowing drive spindown. I'm hoping to do this adaptively to let us avoid the spinup/down tendancies a static timeout provides, but you're right that monitoring SMART information would be a pretty important part of that. I lean towards offering it on desktops and servers, but not enabled by default." Phil Knirsch posted[7] that he was working on similar ideas currently including "the idea if a combination of a monitoring backend and a tuning engine could provide an automatic adoption of the system to the current use. E.g. during daytime when a user works with his machine we would typically see quite a few reads and write all the time. Drive spindowns or other power saving features could during that time be reduced so that the user will have the best performance. During the night (in case he didn't turn of the machine) only very few read and even fewer write operations should happen, at which time the disk could then be powered down most of the time. And of course this can be extended to not only disk drives but other tunable hardware components." [7] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02089.html Some of the pitfalls of choosing defaults for all users were exposed when Ralf Ertzinger and Phil disagreed[8] on the ideal behavior of logging mechanisms. Phil drew a distinction between system logging mechanisms and user application logs and argued that losing data from the latter was not as important. Dariusz Garbowski put[9] the point of view of "Joe the User": "He cares a lot that he lost last hour of his xchat (or whatever he uses) logs. He quite likely doesn't care about last hour of syslog messages (he may not even be aware they exist in the first place)..." [8] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02099.html [9] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02137.html See FWN#88[10],FWN#100[11][12] for previous discussion of power-management in Fedora. [10] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue88#PowerTOP_Release_Opens_Up_New_Directions_In_Power_Saving [11] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue100#Disabling_Atime [12] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue100#Reducing_Power_Usage_Of_Fedora === Strange Resolution Problems === A report of a strange name resolution problem was made[1] by Mark Bidewell. Yum failed to download the Adobe flash-plugin with an error: [Errno 4] IOError: Trying other mirror." , yet it was possible to download it directly over HTTP using the browser. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02002.html Christian Iseli added[2] that he had a similar "[...] issue which seems to be due to some sort of DNS lookup problem. In my case I'd get the 'Name or service not known' for download1.rpmfusion.org." Christian's troubleshooting revealed that specific sites (linuxdownload.adobe.com and download1.rpmfusion.org) were consistently resolved with ping or firefox but failed with wget and ssh. Moreover: "Putting the IP addresses in /etc/hosts "works around" the problem[.]" [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02071.html Following some questions from Seth Vidal nothing seemed[3] obviously wrong and the mystery remains. [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02082.html === Cron Confusion === Pavel Alexeev asked[1] for guidance on how to correctly rpm package a cron job. The specific requirement was a cronjob that ran every twenty minutes and might thus use the /etc/cron.d directory provided by cronie ,the SELinux and PAM aware derivative of vixie cron. Pavel wondered how he could make a package which would work for both variants of cron. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02179.html When Martin Langhoff confirmed that /etc/cron.d was necessary Pavel replied[2]: "[...] /etc/cron.d [is] provided only by cronie [and] now we have several other crons in the repositories[.]" He listed several other implementations of cron found by a # repoquery '*cron*' | egrep -v '^(yum-cron|PackageKit-cron|cronolog)' [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02182.html Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams corrected[3] him: "The only replacement for cronie in that list is fcron. Feel free to log a bug against it." Till Maas and Pavel noted[4], however, that the /etc/cron.* directories were also provided by the package named crontabs. [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02183.html [4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02187.html Patrice Dumas posted[5] the welcome news that he was "[...] currently preparing a fcron sub-package that would be completly compatible with cronie and would watch /etc/cron.d (using inotifywait). I'll keep the list informed." [5] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02187.html === Man Pages to be Mandatory and Upstreamed === A vigorous thread flowered from the promising seed planted[1] by Michael Cronenworth in which he advocated getting rid of all current documentation: "Yes, what I'm about to describe should obsolete man, info, and all the other dozen "help" documentation found in all the Fedora packages." Michael proposed that a new, lightweight standard of some sort would solve the problem of missing documentation. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02015.html During the course of the week there have been requests for "NetworkManager cli docs"[2] and "PulseAudio info needed"[3] in which the desired information has mostly been found on external web pages instead of in documentation supplied with the OS. [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg01757.html [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02041.html Richard W. M. Jones suggested[4] instead that the Debian model should be followed: "Debian forces all programs to come with a man page. If one is missing, this is considered a bug and packagers have to write one." Patrice Dumas was[5] against compulsion and preferred leaving the choice to the packager. [4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02023.html [5] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02025.html The idea of upstreaming the man pages was introduced[6] by Thorsten Leemhuis: "One reason for that: If you add man pages from debian to a fedora package then you have to recheck every now and then if the man pages are still up2date. That afaics often tends to be forgotten (I'm guilty myself here)." Richard agreed[7] and in the course of several clarifications made the strong point that "[...] it's a really useful feature of Debian that _any_ command, any many configuration files and other files, are documented using 'man'. I find it a big negative against Fedora that things aren't so consistently documented." [6] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02024.html [7] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02050.html There seemed to be little disagreement on the desirability of providing more information but Michael was not impressed[8] with Trond Danielsen's suggestion that yelp would fulfill his requirements: "[...] it lacks in the lightweight department. It eats 40 megs of RAM upon startup and more RAM once searching occurs or pages are opened. Sure, we're all getting gigabytes of RAM these days, but it's a HELP tool with TEXT." Basil Mohamed Gohar was inspired[9] to "[write] or two man pages, because I've run into the missing-man-page problem too often." He suggested a very reasonable sounding action plan for identifying missing man pages and then filling them in with at least stubs in order to form a SIG which would work on providing quality replacements. Gergely Buday also seemed[10] interested. [8] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00004.html [9] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00023.html [10] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00060.html == Artwork == In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei === Stickers === In a message posted[1] to both @fedora-art and @fedora-marketing, M?ir?n Duffy showed the community a demo of a sticker sheet "I've been through a few rounds with the printing company to correct various issues and I just received a digital proof from them that I'm pretty happy with" and asking for feedback "Does this look good? If you see any errors or issues let me know and I'll have them fixed, otherwise I'd like to send to send them myapproval ASAP." [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-November/msg00100.html Gerold Kassube asked[2] about the empty stickers "with some I miss the content to fedora and I ask myself: If somebody sees that freedom boble, does he realize that it's fedora or is it only for insider?!" and proposed an alternate slogan "In my head I have a big idea for a sticker which could also be a good marketing which I want to share with you and your outstanding ideas in the past (and I'm also sure in the future). I like the phrase 'Fedora! Leaders not fellows'". In reply, Paul Frields pointed[3] the possibility to combine the stickers "Well, the nice thing about these stickers is they're *extremely* inexpensive. So we can hand out a sheet or two per person, and people can paste *both* a freedom bubble and the logo together!" and stressed the importance of a single, consistent, marketing message "I think it's important for us not to develop too many 'official' slogans, because it dilutes our message. 'What is Fedora? 4 Foundations? IFV? Leaders?'" [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-November/msg00101.html [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-November/msg00103.html === Release Banner for the Website === In a last check before the release day, Ricky Zhou from the website team asked[1] about the status of the graphics to be used on the website "Just to make sure everything will be ready for Tuesday, will we have a final version ready for adding to the site by some time on Monday?" and quickly Paolo Leoni replied[2] with an upload of the needed images and a minor modification[3] from Nicu Buculei. Jaroslav Reznik added[4] a KDE specific flavour it it (the banner contains screenshots of the desktop). [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-November/msg00107.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-November/msg00108.html [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-November/msg00116.html [4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-November/msg00140.html === The Download Page === In a post to @fedora-art Seth Kenlon expressed[1] his delight with the design of the download page[2] "I don't know who takes care of this stuff, but I was really really impressed with the new/updated download page for fedora 10. The buttons on the right side of the page are brilliant -- "KDE Fans Click Here" and "Need PowerPC? Click here" -- now sure, I'm biased, because those two versions of Fedora happen to be the two that I use :^) but......objectively speaking, that is user friendly and attractive. Great job, who ever did that!" The page was designed, as Ricky Zhou pointed[3] by M?ir?n Duffy "Not surprisingly, this was the work of M?ir?n - thanks a lot for making that page beautiful and easy to use!" [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-November/msg00145.html [2] http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-November/msg00147.html == Security Advisories == In this section, we cover Security Advisories from fedora-package-announce. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-package-announce Contributing Writer: David Nalley === Fedora 10 Security Advisories === * nagios-3.0.5-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-November/msg00881.html * imlib2-1.4.2-2.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-November/msg00906.html * php-Smarty-2.6.20-2.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-November/msg00940.html * net-snmp-5.4.2.1-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-November/msg01002.html === Fedora 9 Security Advisories === * imlib2-1.4.2-2.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-November/msg00856.html === Fedora 8 Security Advisories === * imlib2-1.4.2-2.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-November/msg00858.html ==== Fedora 8 is nearing EOL ==== Per FESCo support for Fedora 8 will be discontinued on January 7th 2009 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02014.html -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From stickster at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 17:01:48 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:01:48 -0500 Subject: FUDCon F11 Boston In-Reply-To: <20081201171910.GO18297@localhost.localdomain> References: <20081201171910.GO18297@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20081203170148.GK13562@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 12:19:10PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: > FUDCon F11 Boston -- News Update! > ================================= > > * All of our location information is confirmed -- we will be holding > the conference as predicted, at MIT in the Sloan Building. There > will be plentiful space for hackfests and BarCamp sessions over the > course of the weekend. > > * FUDPub will be held at Flat Top Johnny's on Saturday night (January > 10) from 6:00-10:00pm. > > * The wiki remains open for registration. Please remember to note > your shirt size, whether you prefer vegetarian fare for lunch on > Saturday, and any other important information (in the "Comments" > section). > > * The hotel group rate is good until DECEMBER 19. After that, it will > be up to the hotel to decide whether or not to extend their offer of > $99/night. So sign up now! > > And here's some further news to sweeten the pot -- the One Laptop Per > Child and SugarLabs communities will be joining us for FUDCon, to > address areas of common interest like packaging and building for these > unique projects, and to talk to Fedora community members about getting > involved. This should make FUDCon a very exciting event and I look > forward to seeing everyone there who can make it! I apologize for following one announcement with another, but I left out some helpful links and information that could be useful for community members who don't follow the wiki or planet feed.[1] FUDCon F11 Boston will be held all day January 9-11, 2009, at MIT's Sloan Building as previously noted. You do not need a Fedora account to use the wiki page to pre-register for the conference: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConF11 FUDCon, as always, is free of cost and open to anyone to attend. Pre-registration entitles each attendee to a complimentary gift, lunch on Saturday, and dinner and a beverage on Sunday. Also, please sign up for a BarCamp or hackfest session. These sessions can include any topic around which you want to gather people to collaborate and learn. Many sessions are not announced until the event begins, but pre-announcing them gives other community members a chance to see more reasons why FUDCon is such a worthwhile event for everyone. Pre-registration will end on or about December 19th, so sign up today. = = = [1] The decongestants aren't helping either. ;-) -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stickster at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 17:09:26 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:09:26 -0500 Subject: FUDCon F11 Boston In-Reply-To: <20081203170148.GK13562@localhost.localdomain> References: <20081201171910.GO18297@localhost.localdomain> <20081203170148.GK13562@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20081203170926.GM13562@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 12:01:48PM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConF11 > > FUDCon, as always, is free of cost and open to anyone to attend. > Pre-registration entitles each attendee to a complimentary gift, lunch > on Saturday, and dinner and a beverage on Sunday. ^^^^^^ Ever have one of those days? This should have read "Saturday night." Pre-registrants get free lunch during the day on Saturday at BarCamp, and dinner and a beverage on Saturday night at FUDPub. Very sorry for the spam, all. Paul -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stickster at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 21:23:20 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 16:23:20 -0500 Subject: Board appointment Message-ID: <20081203212320.GO495@localhost.localdomain> During this election season, there are two (2) appointed seats and two (2) community-elected seats open on the Fedora Board. This cycle, Bill Nottingham, Karsten Wade, Matt Domsch, and Jef Spaleta are turning over their seats. These folks have given very generously of their time over the last year -- and in some cases years -- and helped with a great deal of heavy lifting. Thank you, each and every one; the community and I are in your debt! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Elections/Nominations As you'll see from the URLs above, there is an incredible slate of worthy candidates up for election, and I'm very excited to see people who are interested and passionate in helping drive Fedora forward by helping the Board remove barriers to contribution. Those barriers get reduced steadily over time, but there is always more to do. The elections will begin on 7 December, after a set of town hall meetings where community members can ask the nominees questions. Check the general elections wiki page above for the schedule and details. We have set these meetings up in response to community requests and encourage you to attend as many as you like. You should also feel free to write to individual nominees directly to ask questions that are important to you. The two appointed seats on the Board are nominated by Red Hat and chosen by the FPL. One appointment is held back until after the elections so that the Board's composition can be balanced as needed. The balance of the appointments are announced before elections.[1] For this cycle, Chris Aillon will return to the Board as an appointee. Chris is a long-time Fedora contributor and member of the Red Hat Desktop team, and among other responsibilities he is the maintainer of the ever-popular Mozilla Firefox and related packages in Fedora and in RHEL. Chris served on the Board previously for approximately a year, from summer 2007 to summer 2008.[2] The Board and I welcome him back, and look forward to working with him again. = = = [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/SuccessionPlanning [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/History -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2008-12-05 18:00 UTC' Affected Services: Buildsystem CVS / Source Control Database Fedora Hosted Fedora Talk Mail Mirror System Translation Services Websites Unaffected Services: DNS Torrent Fedora People Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1027 Reason for Outage: We'll be doing a switch upgrade as well as a number of system updates and re-cabling. We'll also be removing old hardware to install some new. This outage window is very large instead of writing out many smaller outages I thought it best just to make one large window. The longest outage should last 1 to 2 hours. The shorter ones will likely not be noticeable to most users. We'll work hard to keep outages as short as possible. If all goes according to plan there the primary website (non wiki) and mirrors site will not go down as they have built in redundancy. Everything else needs access to various databases in our datacenter and their connectivity will be interrupted. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. From metherid at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 15:29:43 2008 From: metherid at gmail.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:59:43 +0530 Subject: Omega 10 Preview Release Message-ID: <4937F767.6000501@gmail.com> Hi, Omega is a Linux based operating system and a Fedora remix suitable for desktop and laptop users. It is a installable Live CD for regular PC (i686 architecture) systems. It has all the features of Fedora 10 and a number of additional multimedia players and codecs by default. You can play any multimedia content (including MP3) or commercial DVD's out of the box. For what's new in Fedora 10, refer to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/ReleaseSummary Download: ------------ ftp://ftp.infradead.org/pub/spins/omega-10-desktop-preview.iso # sha1sum omega-10-desktop-preview.iso 27f9b26d26f18ddb14306b344007de427a036baf omega-10-desktop-preview.iso Kickstart file for customization is available at ftp://ftp.infradead.org/pub/spins/omega-10-desktop-livecd.ks Unless any major issues are found, this will be the general release of Omega 10 as well. So please test and provide feedback. FAQ? ------- Is this a official Fedora release? This is a community remix of Fedora and not endorsed or affiliated with the Fedora Project or Red Hat. Is this a fork? It is a fully compatible remix of Fedora with some add-on multimedia software from RPMFusion and Livna (DVD playback) software repositories. What's the benefit? Many Fedora users, install Fedora and get these common software from other sources. This Live CD provides a convenient starting point for such users, is completely compatible with Fedora and can be redistributed easily. If you have already installed Fedora and configured these repositories, just continue using it. Does Omega include proprietary software? Fedora excludes both proprietary software and Free and open source software with other potential patent encumbrances. Omega has only free and open source software packages by default, some of which are excluded from Fedora due to such potential encumbrances . If you are in a region that enforces restrictive software patents, you might want to use Fedora instead. Where do updates come from? All updates are from Fedora, RPMFusion and Livna repositories. The current plan is to provide updated composes of the Live CD in frequent intervals so users installing the releases at a later date, don't have to download all the updates separately. What about the release schedule? Omega will follow the Fedora development and release schedules closely. Do you plan on do other variants? Not on my own but if you want to do so, I would be able to help. Feel free to use the kickstart file provided as the basis for such variants. How do I contribute? Join the Fedora Project or RPMfusion effort. You can also provide feedback on what could be improved in the Live CD by testing and filing bug reports, providing documentation, artwork as well. Where do I report issues? You can file bug reports on Fedora software packages at http://bugzilla.redhat.com and for RPMFusion software packages at https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/. Do you have a separate website? Not yet. Omega discussions take place in rpmfusion developers list at http://lists.rpmfusion.org/pipermail/rpmfusion-developers/ More questions or feedback? Just drop me a email. Rahul From ricky at fedoraproject.org Sat Dec 6 18:27:28 2008 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:27:28 -0500 Subject: Outage Notification - wiki, smolt, transifex Message-ID: <20081206182715.GA24410@sphe.res.cmu.edu> Outage Notification - 2008-12-06 18:22 UTC There has been an unplanned outage starting at 2008-12-06 17:30 UTC. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d 'YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM UTC' Affected Services: Websites Fedora Project Wiki Smolt Transifex Unaffected Services: Buildsystem CVS / Source Control Database DNS Fedora Hosted Fedora People Fedora Talk Mail Mirror System Torrent Translation Services Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1034 Reason for Outage: xen12 the host for our MySQL server is having hardware problems. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nigjones at redhat.com Sun Dec 7 00:06:46 2008 From: nigjones at redhat.com (Nigel Jones) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:06:46 +1000 Subject: Fedora Elections - Important Information Message-ID: <1228608406.14039.16.camel@njones.bne.redhat.com> Hi Everyone, The elections for the Fedora Board, Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo) and the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee (FAmSCo) are now live (as of 0000 UTC on 7th December 2008) and will run until 2359 UTC on 20th December 2008. All groups have chosen to use the Range Voting method (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_voting). Ballots may be cast on the Fedora Elections System at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting. If this is the first time you've used the voting system, please refer to the Fedora Elections Guide, currently located at http://nigelj.fedorapeople.org/feg/. Fedora Board Election: ---------------------- This election, the Fedora Board is electing two candidates and will appoint another two members. Vacating the seats on the board this election are Matt Domsch, Jef Spaleta, Bill Nottingham and Karsten Wade. Christopher Aillon was announced as the board's first appointee with the second to be decided after the election. The candidates for this election, in no particular order are: Matt Domsch (mdomsch) Dimitris Glezos (glezos) Michael DeHaan (mpdehaan) Josh Boyer (jwb) David Cantrell (dcantrell) Jon Stanley (jds2001) Bill Nottingham (notting) To vote, you must have a signed Contributor License Agreement (CLA). Vote Here: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/boardf11 Townhall Logs: * http://mdomsch.fedorapeople.org/fedora-townhalls/2008-12-04-Board/fedora-townhall.2008-12-04.log.html * http://mdomsch.fedorapeople.org/fedora-townhalls/2008-12-05-Board/fedora-townhall.2008-12-05.log.html Fedora Engineering Steering Committee Election: ----------------------------------------------- For this election, FESCo will be electing four candidates to sit on the committee. Vacating the seats on FESCo this election are Jarod Wilson, Josh Boyer, Karsten Hopp, and Jon Stanley. The candidates for this election, in no particular order are: Josh Boyer (jwb) Dan Hor?k (sharkcz) Dominik Mierzejewski (rathann) Jon Stanley (jds2001) Jarod Wilson (jwilson) To vote, you must have a signed Contributor License Agreement (CLA) and be a member of any other group. Vote Here: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/fescof11 Townhall Log: * http://mdomsch.fedorapeople.org/fedora-townhalls/2008-12-05-FESCo/fedora-townhall.2008-12-05.log.html Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee Election: ----------------------------------------------- This election FAmSCo will be electing all 7 seats on the committee. These seats were previously held by Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira, Thomas Canniot, Francesco Ugolini, Fabian Affolter, Jeffrey Tadlock, Andreas Rau and John Babich. The candidates for this election, in no particular order are: Sandro Mathys (red_alert) Rodrigo Padula (RodrigoPadula) Joerg Simon (kital) Max Spevack (spevack) Larry Cafiero (lcafiero) Hector Gonzalez (hagr182) Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit) Francesco Ugolini (fugolini) David Nalley (ke4qqq) Thomas Canniot (MrTom) To vote, you must be a member of the ambassadors group in the Fedora Account System. Vote Here: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/famscof11 Townhall Log: * http://mdomsch.fedorapeople.org/fedora-townhalls/2008-12-06-FAMSCo/fedora-townhall.2008-12-06.log.html *** I'd also like to point out the following from Paul Frields' announcement for the June 2008 Board Election: "I'd like everyone voting to remember that this isn't a popularity contest, or a reward system. Think about how you'd like to Board to look when you vote, the same way you think about how you'd like any government body to look when you cast votes for their elections. We have a lot of worthy candidates on this list, and you should pick the ones that you feel will best represent you in advancing the Fedora Project. This is one of numerous ways in which our community makes decisions about the leadership of Fedora. Your vote counts, and I hope you take advantage of it." *** This advice is still valid, not just for the Fedora Board election but for all three elections. Regards, Nigel Jones Fedora Election Admin From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Mon Dec 8 17:54:10 2008 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:54:10 -0500 Subject: Fedora Weekly News #155 Message-ID: <1228758850.8801.1288917291@webmail.messagingengine.com> Fedora Weekly News Issue 155 Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 155 for the week ending December 7th, 2008. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue155 FWN is pleased to announce the return of the Planet Fedora beat. Among other items Adam Batkin lists some "Howtos and Tips" gleaned from blogs. In Announcements the "Fedora 11" naming scheme is discussed. In Developments "The PATH to CAPP" exposes disquiet with some security infrastructure. Translation provides updates on the cancellation of FLSCo elections. Artwork is again bursting at the seems with a "T-Shirt Logo Design Tool" and "Improved Document Templates". SecurityAdvisories lists this week's essential updates. Finally Virtualization continues to race the shocking pace of developments including the "Release of libvirt 0.5.0 and 0.5.1" There's plenty more a mere mouse click away! If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[1]. FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Oisin Feeley, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala [0] http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join Fedora Weekly News Issue 155 1.1 Announcements 1.1.1 FUDCon Boston (F11) 1.1.2 Fedora 11 1.1.3 Other 1.2 Planet Fedora 1.2.1 General 1.2.2 How-To and Tips 1.2.3 FOSS.IN 1.3 Developments 1.3.1 The PATH to CAPP Audits 1.3.2 The Looming Py3K Monster 1.3.3 PackageKit Stealth Installations 1.3.4 DNS Resolution Unreliable 1.4 Translation 1.4.1 FLSco Elections Cancelled 1.4.2 Fedora-website Translation Repo Re-enabled 1.4.3 Transifex version updated for translate.fedoraproject.org 1.4.4 New Members in FLP 1.5 Artwork 1.5.1 Improved Document Templates 1.5.2 Postprocessing in Icons 1.5.3 FirstAidKit Artwork 1.5.4 T-Shirt Logo Design Tool 1.6 Security Advisories 1.6.1 Fedora 10 Security Advisories 1.6.2 Fedora 9 Security Advisories 1.6.3 Fedora 8 Security Advisories 1.7 Virtualization 1.7.1 Enterprise Management Tools List 1.7.1.1 Enabling Builds of libvirt for Windows 1.7.1.2 Solaris Support in virtinst 1.7.2 Fedora Xen List 1.7.2.1 Support for Fedora 10 DomU on F8 Dom0 1.7.2.2 Paravirt Ops Dom0 Feature Update 1.7.3 Libvirt List 1.7.3.1 Release of libvirt 0.5.0 and 0.5.1 1.7.3.2 Allow Automatic Driver Probe for Remote TCP Connections 1.7.3.3 Thread Safety for libvirtd Daemon and Drivers 1.7.3.4 libvirt 0.5.0 and KVM Migration Support 1.7.4 oVirt Devel List 1.7.4.1 Some Architecture Diagrams 1.7.4.2 Standalone Console Viewer for oVirt == Announcements == In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/ Contributing Writer: Max Spevack === FUDCon Boston (F11) === Paul Frields made a few announcements this week regarding FUDCon Boston[1], which is January 9-11. Paul mentioned[2] that the event will be held at MIT, he gives information about the social event, and also reminds people to register on the wiki and to make their hotel reservations before December 19th, in order to secure the $99 hotel room rate. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConF11 [2] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-December/msg00000.html === Fedora 11 === Josh Boyer wrote[3] about the process for selecting the Fedora 11 name. "We're doing the name collection differently this year than in the past. Contributors wishing to make a suggestion are asked to go to the F11 naming wiki page[4], and add an entry to the suggestion table found there". [3] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-December/msg00001.html [4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_11 Jon Stanley announced[5,6] the Fedora 11 freeze dates. The Alpha freeze is currently scheduled for January 20, and the Final freeze for April 14. [5] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2008-December/msg00005.html [6] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2008-December/msg00006.html Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams announced[7] that Python 2.6 is now in Rawhide. For those of you who maintain Python packages, you'll want to read the full announcement. [7] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2008-December/msg00007.html Other Finally, Paul Frields announced[8] that Chris Aillon has been re-appointed to the Fedora Board, and will serve another two-release term. [8] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-December/msg00005.html == Planet Fedora == In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora - an aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide. http://planet.fedoraproject.org Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin === General === Fabian Affolter posted[0] a nice graph showing the number of unique fedoraproject.org visitors (progressively growing since 2006!) [0] http://fabaff.blogspot.com/2008/12/fedoraprojectorg-unique-visitors.html Karsten Wade appealed[1] for information about configuring a misbehaving Synaptic touchpad on Fedora 10, followed[2] shortly thereafter by a solution. [1] http://iquaid.org/2008/11/30/synaptic-tapping-fail-is-there-a-good-fix/ [2] http://iquaid.org/2008/12/02/more-than-one-way-to-skin-a-touchpad/ Max Spevack wondered[3] whether there is a nice way to build a custom Fedora mirror tailored specifically to one's installed package set. [3] http://spevack.livejournal.com/69145.html Thorsten Leemhuis critiqued[4] the Fedora Release Notes, providing some suggestions for how to make the important bits stand out more. [4] http://thorstenl.blogspot.com/2008/12/read-same-paragraphs-every-half-year.html A look ahead[5] at some of the innovations in the open source world that we can look forward to during 2009 [5] http://liquidat.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/the-open-source-year-2009/ Luis Villa mused[6][7] on innovation in general and the Linux Desktop (think Gnome and KDE) in particular. [6] http://tieguy.org/blog/2008/12/05/the-linux-desktops-change-problem/ [7] http://tieguy.org/blog/2008/12/06/slight-innovation-followup/ Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote a few[8] posts[9] chronicling[10] his experiences with Sugar [8] http://gregdek.livejournal.com/40932.html [9] http://gregdek.livejournal.com/41431.html [10] http://gregdek.livejournal.com/41616.html Apparently Luis Villa had[11] a similar idea [11] http://tieguy.org/blog/2008/12/02/playing-with-sugar/ A video interview[12] with Paul W. Frields about the Fedora 10 release [12] http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2008/12/02/video-fedora-10/ === How-To and Tips === Tom Tromey wrote an 8-part (so far) series[13] on using a Python-enabled GDB. The series is not just about debugging Python with GDB, but also extending GDB using Python. [13] http://tromey.com/blog/?p=494 Jeroen van Meeuwen provided some instructions for composing EL5 media on Fedora 9 or 10 systems[14] by running Revisor inside mock [14] http://kanarip.livejournal.com/6276.html James Laska wrote a tutorial on how to automate a classroom/lab-type[15] setup using tools such as Cobbler, Snake and Koan [15] http://jlaska.livejournal.com/3696.html Michael Stahnke had some problems (and solutions)[16] for getting Fedora 10 running as a Xen guest on EL5 [16] http://www.stahnkage.com/blogs/index.php?/archives/482-F10-and-Xen-images.html Dale Bewley wrote about expanding[17] an Encrypted Filesystem with LVM and Fedora 10 [17] http://tofu.org/drupal/node/71 Steven Moix managed to get[18] iTunes music sharing working in Fedora 10 [18] http://www.alphatek.info/2008/12/01/itunes-music-sharing-in-fedora-10/ Dave Jones had some tips[19] for making an ASUS Eee PC 900 (or any generally underpowered UMPC with a solid state disk) happier under Linux [19] http://kernelslacker.livejournal.com/132087.html Harald Hoyer also provided some performance advice[20], this time to help identify disk IO bottlenecks during bootup using SystemTap [20] http://www.harald-hoyer.de/personal/blog/fedora-10-disk-io === FOSS.IN === A number of people wrote up their experiences and provided pictures from FOSS.IN: [21] http://james-morris.livejournal.com/36445.html [22] http://james-morris.livejournal.com/36715.html [23] http://soumya.dgplug.org/?p=33 [24] http://kushaldas.in/2008/12/02/through-my-lenses-fossin-2008/ [25] http://rahulpmb.blogspot.com/2008/12/pics-from-fossin.html [26] http://www.tuxmaniac.com/blog/2008/12/07/fossin-2008-lots-of-fun/ == Developments == In this section the people, personalities and debates on the @fedora-devel mailing list are summarized. Contributing Writer: Oisin Feeley === The PATH to CAPP Audits === Some tough questioning about the purpose and usefulness of the Common Criteria for Information Technology Security Evaluation (CC)[1] was dished out to the maintainers of shadow-utils (the family of secure utilities for manipulating user accounts and passwords) when it appeared that the need to audit specific behaviors was causing some awkward constraints in OS design. The CC certifications are an ISO standard originally developed by the USA's National Security Agency to specify the expected behavior of systems under certain strictly defined criteria (so called Protection Profiles) to certain levels (Enterprise Evaluation Levels). Red Hat Enterprise Linux (a downstream derivative of Fedora) is able to boast several of them, including CAPP,LSPP and RBACPP to EAL4+[2], enabling RHEL5 to be purchased for use in government programs which require "assured information sharing." See[3][4] for further information. In order to provide the auditing capabilities mandatory to achieve such certifications Steve Grubb and others on his team have been steadily committing changes to Fedora. The specific protection profile under discussion in this case was the Controlled Access Protection Profile (CAPP) and there has been a good deal of unease about the usefulness of such certification in other forums[5]. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common.Criteria [2] http://www.redhat.com/solutions/government/commoncriteria/ [3] A good blog entry by Sun's Jim Laurent: http://blogs.sun.com/jimlaurent/entry/faq.what.is.a.common [4] https://www2.sans.org/reading.room/whitepapers/standards/1078.php [5] http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/12/microsoft.windo.html When Callum Lerwick noticed[6] that he could not run usermod as an unprivileged user in order to get its help page he suggested that "[...] it and all the other account tools have been changed to mode 750, inaccessible to normal users" and erroneously attributed this to recent changes made to accommodate changes to the PATH environment variable. Earlier discussion of the addition of the sbin directories to users' PATHs can be found in FWN#146[7]. Jon Stanley replied[8] "These permissions have been in place for over 2 years, with valid reasoning. Just because it's in your PATH doesn't mean you should be able to execute it." Jon appended the 2006 log message which attributed the change to "fix regression. Permissions on user* group* binaries should be 0750, because of CAPP/LSPP certification." Callum posted a list of all the account tools which had such permissions including the shadow-utils account tools and the audit subsystem tools. [6] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00489.html [7] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue146#PATH:.2Fsbin.Tab.Confusion [8] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00495.html Although the change was actually several years old it appeared to cause surprise in many circles and prompted demands for information on what CAPP was and whether it was of any use to the Fedora Project. Steve Grubb responded[9] to the original query that "[...] you cannot do anything with [the user* commands] unless you are root. Allowing anyone to execute them would require lots of bad things for our LSPP/CAPP evaluations" and suggested that man pages should be used instead of running the tools with the --help argument. [9] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00501.html Jesse Keating probed what appeared to be a reliance on restricting execution permissions for security. When Steve corrected[10] this to be "[...] more to do with the fact that we have to audit all attempts to modify trusted databases - in this case, shadow [...] if we open the permissions, we need to make these become setuid root so that we send audit events saying they failed" Jesse was even more perturbed[11] and asked "Why would the binary have to be suid? Why can't the binary detect that [the] calling user is not root, and just print out the usage and a message saying that you have to be root? How would this action make it any less auditable?" Later Chris Adams extended[12] the apparent logic: "[...] cat will have to be setuid root so it can audit? What about echo, bash, perl, etc.? This is absurd." [10] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00513.html [11] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00523.html [12] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00575.html >From this point onwards the confusion and questioning gained in volume and intensity with several points being made to question the usefulness of this particular (CAPP) certification. These included the points that any user could obtain copies of the restricted binaries from outside of the system[13] for nefarious testing purposes; and that there were plenty of other tools[14] on the system which might allow violations of the policy. [13] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00514.html [14] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00626.html It would be fair to characterize most of the reactions as hostile. Some of this was due to an apparent impatience with "security certifications" which seemed to be of more interest to managers than achieving practical security. Callum Lerwick suggested[15] "[...] just because RHEL has to do stupid ignorant shit to appease certification authorities doesn't mean Fedora has to do it too." Another part was undoubtedly due to concern about who had made the decision to follow this path. Jesse Keating expressed[16] some frustration and asked "Who's 'we'? Perhaps 'we' shouldn't piss on Fedora in order to meet some cert that I highly highly doubt any Fedora install will find useful." When Seth Vidal and Dominik Mierzejewski also wondered when, and by whom, the decision was made Steve answered[17]: "By me after a group presented the options back in 2005. Back in those days shadow-utils was in 'Core' and that was maintained by Red Hat." [15] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00528.html [16] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00534.html [17] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00584.html Another part of the hostility seemed to originate in the novelty of the certification requirements to many participants. Steve answered many queries as they came in and suggested that it was necessary to take an overview of how the whole process worked. He was pressed by Jeff Spaleta for further details. This led[18] to an interesting quote from the CAPP guidelines and the example of how they are applied to shadow-utils. The guidelines make some assumptions which many will find unrealistic, such as the "[t]he system administrative personnel are not careless, willfully negligent, or hostile, and will follow and abide by the instructions provided by the administrator documentation." While this criticism obviously calls into question the practical usefulness of the CAPP certification it is just one layer designed to perform a specific function, other more apparently useful security can only be built on top of these layers after they are implemented. Steve's post also contained some interesting practical examples of how administrators can use the audit tools to view information gained by instrumenting the shadow-utils code. To see who has modified accounts, and how, one can: #ausearch --start this-month -m ADD_USER #ausearch --start this-month -m ADD_GROUP A view of attempts to change accounts both through the approved shadow-utils (restricted to root) or other non-approved tools can be obtained with a ausearch --start this-month -f /etc/shadow *raw -- aureport -x -i [18] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00585.html Enrico Scholz pointed out[19] that this seemed like security through obscurity because there were other tools (vipw and ldapadd) which could modify the trusted database and Steve responded[20] that vipw was forbidden and that it would be possible to extend the auditing to ldap if someone had the time. In response to Andrew Bartlett Jesse Keating interpreted[21] this "forbidden" as "`forbidden by policy' in which using anything /but/ the audit-able tools is `forbidden by policy'. If you're expecting everybody to follow policy, why not just set policy that says `don't hack this box'. That'll work right?" [19] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00587.html [20] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00588.html [21] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00623.html Callum Lerwick jumped[22] to what was for him the central point: "So I guess this is what all this really comes down to: Do we care about certification?" and asked whether the shadow-utils maintainer(s) would care to put the permissions to a FESCo vote. Steve affirmed[23] that certification was worthwhile with a detailed list of the positive side-effects of the certification process which include: man pages for each syscall, bug fixing and reporting, test suites, crypto work, virtualization with strong guarantees of VM separation and more. It was an impressive list which seemed to counter the dominant assumption that certification was merely another item to be ticked off on a bureaucrat's mindless list. Steve noted that "[a]s a result, Fedora is the ONLY community distribution that actually meets certification requirements. OpenSuse might be close for CAPP, but not LSPP/RSBAC, but that would be the only one I can think of that might be getting close." [22] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00560.html [23] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00563.html While this summary might make it seem as though certification is a slamdunk (and your correspondent has to admit a strong bias in favor of it) it has probably failed to convey the sense of unease expressed by Fedora Project contributors that decisions have been taken without discussion or consultation. Jesse Keating asked[24] Steve Grubb to explain who was providing impetus to the shadow-utils/certification team: "Where is this yelling going on? Where are the bug reports? Where is the public discussion about supposed problems in our install processes? Where is the discussion with domain knowledge experts debating whether or not the complaint has merit? Where is the open and frank discussion?" [24] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00547.html One possible route around what seems to be an impasse was suggested by Jeff Spaleta. Jeff observed[25] that CAPP certification for putative "appliance spins", but not the current set of spins, might make sense and asked[26]: "could some of the restrictions like the permissions be handled in a more modular way? Could for example, things be changed so I could install a specialized fedora-CAPP package at install time which tightens up aspects of the system to bring it into CAPP compliance, instead of expressing those restrictions in the default settings of all installs?" [25] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00556.html [26] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00625.html === The Looming Py3K Monster === Last week we reported that Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams was busy shepherding Python-2.6 into Fedora. This week Michael DeHaan raised[1] the question of what the plan for incorporating Python 3K will be. Michael worried that Py3K's incompatibilities with Python-2.6 "[are] pretty bad for someone who wants to keep a single codebase across EL 4 (Python 2.3) and up, which I think a lot of us do. That gets to be darn impossible and we have to double our involvement with code because we essentially have to maintain a differently-compatible fork for each project." He asked: "Are we looking at also carrying on with packaging 2.N indefinitely when we do decide to carry 3, because as I know it, the code changes to make something Python 3 compatible will be severe and that's a big item for any release, and will probably result in some undiscovered bugs even after the initial ports (if applied)." [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00379.html Although there was some optimism that the "from future import" syntax would allow the use of python-3 features in python-2 Daniel P. Berrange quashed[2] the idea that this was a simple fix because it "[...] isn't much help if python 2.3, 2.4 and 2.5 don't support 'from future import' and you care about shipping stuff that works on the 99% of deployed Linux boxes today which don't have 2.6 let alone 3.0." Basil Mohamed Gohar suggested[3] running the 2to3 tool on the Core packages to gain a sense of what needs to be done. [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00394.html [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00438.html Some strategies and their implications were detailed[4] by Toshio Kuratomi in a post which comprehensively explains the options. Toshio suggested avoiding maintaining separate python2 and python3 packages within a single version of Fedora due to the resulting double work and space. He suggested that "[...] this decision is only partially within the powers of the Fedora Project to decide. If 80% of our upstream libraries move to py3, we'll need to move to py3 sooner. If 80% refuse to move off of py2, we can take our time working on migration code." In later discussion with Arthur Pemberton he seemed[5] to favor the idea of using python-2.6 while ensuring that all code is as compatible as possible with python-3 and avoided estimating how hard this would be until actual experience is gained with "[...] porting code to 2.6 with 3.x features turned on at some point." [4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00420.html [5] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00437.html James Antill was[6] skeptical that Py3K would be seen in Fedora any time soon due to the massive changes required and the past history (FWN#114[7])of votes on maintaining compatibility packages: "I'll put money on python3k not being the default in Fedora 12. Hell, I'll even put some money on it not being the default in Fedora 14, at this point. My personal opinion is that we stay with 2.6.* for as long as possible, giving everyone time to dual port and the problems to be found/fixed and then it "should be easy" to have it as a feature and move for one release. But I'll point out that Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams did .all. the work for 2.6 in Fedora 11 ... so feel free to take this as just my opinion." [6] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00391.html [7] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue114#Policy.Proposal.For.New.Compatibility.Packages === PackageKit Stealth Installations === Robert Locke asked[1] how createrepo, anaconda-yum-plugins and preupgrade had been installed without his permission on a fresh Fedora 10 install. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00431.html An answer was posted[2] by Jesse Keating to the effect that this had been done by PackageKit "[...] so that it could offer you the ability to upgrade. We've moved that information to a public webserver rather than being in the preupgrade package so that PK can get this information without stealth installing packages." He added that while there were no "[...] current guidelines that would have caught this [...] it does fall into the `don't do that' category." [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00448.html In further answers Jesse explained[3]: "It was installed so that PackageKit could have the appropriate information to check if there were distro level upgrades (say 9 to 10) available for you. The upstream has been asked to please not install any software in Fedora without a users consent, so hopefully this scenario won't happen again, at least not with PackageKit." [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00505.html === DNS Resolution Unreliable === Previously in FWN#154[1] we reported on some strange name resolution problems. Seth Vidal, as maintainer of the YUM package which looked as though it might be implicated, requested[2] follow-up information. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue154#Strange.Resolution.Problems [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00246.html Tim Niemuller replied that the problems persisted for him and were probably not to do with YUM. He added failures with svn to the mix and suggested[3] that "[...] yum is [not] the problem but there is a more general problem related to DNS lookups. As a specialty I'm using nss-mdns. But on F-8/F-9 this has never been a problem, so I suspect this is not what is causing the problem, especially because others have the same problem and I don't think nss-mdns is installed on many machines." [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00305.html Jonathan Underwood posted[4] a link to a heavily commented bugzilla entry opened by Tom Horsley on 2008-08-21. The gist of the comments appears to be that with certain DNS servers there is a problem with simultaneous IPv4 and IPv6 requests being sent. A reported[5] work-around involved using a non-glibc resolver such as dnsmasq and was added[6] to the Fedora Project wiki by Christopher Stone. [4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00308.html [5] http://www.fedorafaq.org/f10/#dns-slow [6] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common.F10.bugs#DNS.Resolver.not.Reliable Jakub Jelinek prepared[7] a glibc update which temporarily disables the simultaneous requests and Ben Williams promised that once the issue is cleanly resolved the Fedora Unity team[8] will issue a Fedora 10 re-spin. [7] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show.bug.cgi?id=459756#c91 [8] http://fedoraunity.org/ == Translation == This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n) Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee === FLSco Elections Cancelled === The mid-term elections for Fedora Localization Steering Committee (FLSCo) were cancelled and the Fedora Localization Project decided to go ahead with the current Committee for another release[1][2]. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00011.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00018.html === Fedora-website Translation Repo Re-enabled === The main repository for the Fedora Website translation was re-enabled post Fedora 10 release and the intermediate test repository is now disabled[3]. As reiterated by RickyZhou, any updations to Fedora Website content are to be submitted to the main repository[4]. [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00003.html [4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00001.html === Transifex Version Updated for translate.fedoraproject.org === RickyZhou announced that the transifex version on translate.fedoraproject.org has been updated and very soon new features like translated interface and module descriptions would also be added[5]. [5] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00023.html === New Members in FLP === Nikolay Vladimirov[6] and Daniel Cabrera[7] are the two new members joining the Fedora Localization Project for the Bulgarian and Spanish team respectively. [6] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00004.html [7] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00024.html == Artwork == In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei === Improved Document Templates === M?ir?n Duffy proposed on @fedora-art a new project for Fedora 11 "finding and developing nice-looking, general-purpose templates we could then package up for programs like OpenOffice.org Writer, OpenOffice.org Impress, Scribus, Inkscape, Gimp, etc.", proposal received[2] with enthusiasm by Seth Kenlon, who also asked bout font requirements in those templates "does anyone know if there are special requirements in terms of fonts we could actually use and expect upstream to definitely have?", a question answered[3] quickly by M?ir?n "I think we should only assume users will have access to the fonts packaged for Fedora proper. If we use a font that isn't included in the default live media installation, then we should require the Fedora font package needed." [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-December/msg00001.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-December/msg00008.html [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-December/msg00009.html === Postprocessing in Icons === MartinSourada raised[1] a technical debate on @fedora-art, questioning if the desktop icons should be always generated directly from the SVG sources or if some additional raster post-processing is allowed "My reason for this is that while I am unable to achieve, to my eye, perfect antialiasing in some cases when using direct export in inkscape, but after exporting it in bigger size applying some filters and resizing to desired size I am able to achieve, to my eye, better results", a question still under debate, awaiting input for contributors with more experience in icon creation. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-December/msg00005.html === FirstAidKit Artwork === Maria Leandro resumed[1] the work on an older DesignService request[2] "I made some tries and finally came up something he like" a graphic received with only a small concern[3] from Mike Langlie "The Red Cross owns the trademark to the red cross icon/logo. They have sent cease and desist orders to game companies that use it as an icon for health re-ups. They do suggest using a green cross or white cross on a green background instead as a generic alternative", something easily addressed by Maria[4] [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-December/msg00002.html [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService#Firstaidkit [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-December/msg00003.html [4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-December/msg00004.html === T-Shirt Logo Design Tool === Following a chat on the IRC channel, Charles Brej followed[1] on @fedora-art with a small application which can be used to create T-shirt designs flom 'tag clouds': "I wrote a little tool to create these 'word splat' things with the idea of using the generated images as the Fudcon t-shirt designs". There is a strong possibility to see a number of graphics created during the upcoming year with this tool. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-December/msg00026.html [2] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/try3.png == Security Advisories == In this section, we cover Security Advisories from fedora-package-announce. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-package-announce Contributing Writer: David Nalley === Fedora 10 Security Advisories === * lynx-2.8.6-18.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00065.html * wordpress-2.6.5-2.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00083.html * samba-3.2.5-0.23.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00116.html * blender-2.48a-4.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00178.html * grip-3.2.0-24.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00183.html * dbus-1.2.6-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00209.html * squirrelmail-1.4.17-2.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00232.html * clamav-0.94.2-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00308.html * syslog-ng-2.0.10-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00397.html * java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-7.b12.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00444.html === Fedora 9 Security Advisories === * wordpress-2.6.5-2.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00000.html * samba-3.2.5-0.22.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00021.html * lynx-2.8.6-17.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00066.html * squirrelmail-1.4.17-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00223.html * syslog-ng-2.0.10-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00237.html * java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-0.20.b09.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00384.html * dbus-1.2.6-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00436.html === Fedora 8 Security Advisories === Fedora 8 is nearing EOL Per FESCo support for Fedora 8 will be discontinued on January 7th 2009 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02014.html * samba-3.0.33-0.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00141.html * lynx-2.8.6-12.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00143.html * wordpress-2.6.5-2.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00176.html * squirrelmail-1.4.17-1.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00449.html * syslog-ng-2.0.10-1.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00450.html == Virtualization == In this section, we cover discussion on the @et-mgmnt-tools-list, @fedora-xen-list, @libvirt-list and @ovirt-devel-list of Fedora virtualization technologies. Contributing Writer: Dale Bewley === Enterprise Management Tools List === This section contains the discussion happening on the et-mgmt-tools list Enabling Builds of libvirt for Windows Richard W.M. Jones sought[1] help in enabling builds of Windows libvirt binaries under Fedora. "It seems like we should have the base MinGW (Windows cross-compiler) packages in Fedora 11 by the end of this week. This email is to document the additional packages we need to get approved, in order to get the cross-compiled libvirt and virt tools into (or buildable by) Fedora 11. If you want to help out, please start reviewing by following the Bugzilla links, and looking at the approved packaging guidelines[2]" [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2008-November/msg00073.html [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/MinGW. ==== Solaris Support in virtinst ==== John Levon submitted several patches to improve Solaris support in image:Echo-package-16px.pngpython-virtinst including and not limited to the following: * Add an option for passing Solaris JumpStart information.[1] * Various utility functions[2]. * "Make 'solaris' a first-class OS type, and select USB tablet support for the appropriate variants."[3] * Add support for Solaris PV.[4] * Support for the vdisk format[5]. John explained "vdisk is basically " Sun's " tap implementation and disk management tool. [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2008-December/msg00062.html [2] http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2008-December/msg00063.html [3] http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2008-December/msg00064.html [4] http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2008-December/msg00065.html [5] http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2008-December/msg00067.html === Fedora Xen List === This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-xen list. ==== Support for Fedora 10 DomU on F8 Dom0 ==== The changes[1] made to the image:Echo-package-16px.pngkernel which obviated image:Echo-package-16px.pngkernel-xen caused image:Echo-package-16px.pngpython-virtinst to fail[2] during the creation of a Fedora 10 Xen guest on a Fedora 8 Xen host. Cole Robinson announced[3] a test build[4] which fixes this problem. Readers are encouraged to test the release and provide positive karma points in bodhi[5] to make the build an official update. [1] http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/en_US/What_Do_System_Adminstrators_Care_About.html#sn-Unified_kernel_image [2] RHBZ #458164 [3] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2008-November/msg00036.html [4] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=71125 [5] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2008-10394 ==== Paravirt Ops Dom0 Feature Update ==== After some prompting[1] from Pasi K?rkk?inen the dom0 support feature page[2] was updated to better clarify where the work to bring dom0 support back to Fedora is being done, and to more accurately represent the current status. The patches[3] are being written by Jeremy Fitzhardinge and others at Citrix/XenSource are being submitted to the mainline kernel. Once accepted in the upstream kernel, efforts will resume within Fedora to make the changes necessary to support dom0. These efforts include[4] ensuring the hypervisor supports bzImage kernels. [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2008-November/msg00021.html [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XenPvopsDom0 [3] http://xenbits.xen.org/paravirt_ops/patches.hg/ [4] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2008-November/msg00025.html === Libvirt List === This section contains the discussion happening on the libvir-list. ==== Release of libvirt 0.5.0 and 0.5.1 ==== Daniel Veillard announced[1][2] the releases of image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt 0.5.0 and 0.5.1. "This is a long expected release, with a lot of new features, as a result the small version number is increased." Tarballs and signed RPMs available upstream[3] and in Bodhi[4]. "As stated there is a huge amount of new features and improvement in this release, as well as a lot of bug fixes, the list is quite long". See the post[1] for the full list including the numerous improvments, documentation updates, bug fixes, and cleanups omitted below. New features: * CPU and scheduler support for LXC (Dan Smith) * SDL display configuration (Daniel Berrange) * domain lifecycle event support for QEmu and Xen with python bindings (Ben Guthro and Daniel Berrange) * KVM/QEmu migration support (Rich Jones and Chris Lalancette) * User Mode Linux driver (Daniel Berrange) * API for node device enumeration using HAL and DeviceKit with python bindings (David Lively) "Thanks a lot to everybody who contributed to this release, it is really great to see new people providing significant patches, and the amount of feedback received on the list." [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-November/msg00387.html [2] http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-December/msg00148.html [3] ftp://libvirt.org/libvirt/ [4] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libvirt ==== Allow Automatic Driver Probe for Remote TCP Connections ==== Later described by the release of image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt 0.5.1 as an improvement, Daniel P. Berrange posted[1] the patch to implement a more general method for connecting to remote[2] hypervisor drivers. "When connecting to a local libvirt you can let it automatically probe the hypervisor URI if you don't know it ahead of time. This doesn't work with remote URIs because you need to have something to put in the URI scheme before the hostname: * qemu+ssh://somehost/system * xen+tcp://somehost/system This is then translated into the URI: * qemu:///system * xen:/// ... This patch adds a 'remote' URI scheme, usable like this: * remote+ssh://somehost/ * remote+tcp://somehost/ ... This finally makes the Avahi[3] broadcasts useful - they only include info on the hostname + data transport (SSH, TCP, TLS), not the HV type. So letting us use auto-probing remotely is the missing link." [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-November/msg00420.html [2] http://libvirt.org/remote.html [3] http://www.avahi.org ==== Thread Safety for libvirtd Daemon and Drivers ==== Daniel P. Berrange posted[1] a huge series of 28 patches which add "thread safety for the libvirtd daemon and drivers, and makes the daemon multi-threaded in processing RPC calls. This enables multiple clients to be processed in parallel, without blocking each other. It does not change the thread rules for the virConnectPtr object though, so each individual client is still serialized." ... "This touches a huge amount of code, so I'd like to get this all merged ASAP as it'll be really hard to keep it synced with ongoing changes." [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-November/msg00453.html [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue148#Experimental_Driver_Thread_Safety ==== libvirt 0.5.0 and KVM Migration Support ==== Micka?l Can?vet wondered[1] if image:Echo-package-16px.pngkvm guest migration was expected to be functional. "I just installed image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt 0.5.0 on Debian Lenny with kvm 0.72 to try kvm migration support." Tests failed with "libvir: error : this function is not supported by the hypervisor: virDomainMigrate." Chris Lalancette confirmed[2] "Yes, it is supposed to work, but yes, you need a very, very new kvm. In particular, you need at least kvm-77, and it won't really work right until you get to kvm-79." [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-December/msg00025.html [2] http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-December/msg00027.html === oVirt Devel List === This section contains the discussion happening on the ovirt-devel list. ==== Some Architecture Diagrams ==== Daniel P. Berrange said[1] "I felt I wanted some additional more technically detailed/ focused diagrams to illustrate what we're doing to developers actually writing code for the project." And pointed to oVirt architecure diagrams he created.[2] [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/ovirt-devel/2008-November/msg00357.html [2] http://ovirt.org/page/ArchDiagrams ==== Standalone Console Viewer for oVirt ==== Continuing work on a executable console solution[1] for oVirt, with a fork of image:Echo-package-16px.pngvirt-viewer, Richard W.M. Jones created[2] ovirt-viewer. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue151#oVirt_Console_Conundrum [2] http://www.redhat.com/archives/ovirt-devel/2008-November/msg00412.html -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From max_list at fedorafaq.org Wed Dec 10 00:15:07 2008 From: max_list at fedorafaq.org (Max Kanat-Alexander) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 16:15:07 -0800 Subject: Unofficial Fedora FAQ Updated for Fedora 10! Message-ID: <20081209161507.797c9bfd@fedorafaq.org> Hey there Fedora users! I've updated the Unofficial Fedora FAQ for Fedora 10: http://www.fedorafaq.org/ There are lots of new changes and additions! * With the combination of Fedora 10 and the new RPMFusion repository, there doesn't need to be a special fedorafaq.org yum configuration anymore! There are still instructions in the FAQ on how to configure yum to access rpmfusion, though. * The Java plugin included in Fedora 10 seems to work well enough that installing the Sun Java package isn't needed. * There's a networking (DNS) issue in Fedora 10 that some people are hitting, and I've added a FAQ question for that. And of course, all of the other questions have been updated for Fedora 10, too. If you see some other questions being frequently asked out there in the Fedora world, please let me know!! The contribution guidelines are here: http://www.fedorafaq.org/contribute/ And of course, one thing I'd really like to see is more translations of fedorafaq.org! If you'd like to be a translator, contact me directly and let me know! -Max -- http://www.everythingsolved.com/ Competent, Friendly Bugzilla and Perl Services. Everything Else, too. From stickster at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 17:26:24 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:26:24 -0500 Subject: Package updating problem and solutions Message-ID: <20081212172624.GB13488@localhost.localdomain> Recently, an update of D-Bus software package in Fedora 10 caused the substantial breakage of some applications, including PackageKit. This change left people using the distribution's default set of graphical tools unable to update their systems properly to fix the problem. The update was issued after being tagged as a security update, and was not sufficiently tested before it was made available to all users through our update repositories. We apologize for the problem, which we realize has caused an annoyance for many users. If your machine was affected by this problem and you are unable to run a normal system update using PackageKit, you can restore your system to full working order by doing the following: 1. Open a terminal. From the main menu, choose Applications, System Tools, Terminal. 2. Use the following command to update the system from one of our repository mirrors. The system prompts you for the root password. $ su -c 'yum update' 3. Restart your computer, to ensure the system message bus is reset appropriately. Using our open mailing lists, the community is currently discussing ways to improve Fedora's update processes, to minimize the chances of this sort of situation recurring. Feel free to follow the conversation on the list: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- Paul W. 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Coverage of Fedora Planet includes event reports from a FOSS event in India and a Parisian Fedora install fest, along with a nifty XO Exchange Registry. Another flamewar eruption is covered on the Developments beat, along with updates on the D-Bus in Fedora and discussion on making 'updates-testing' more useful. Fedora websites are now available in Russian and Bulgarian, as reported in this issue's Translations beat. The Artwork beat reports on the Fedora Art Team's re-envisioning discussion as well as using the Fedora branding in the OLPC Sugar interface. The security advisory beat updates us on Fedora 9 and 10 updates, along with reminders of Fedora 8 end of life, January 7, 2009. In virtualization news, details of the latest libvert in RHEL and CentOS 5.2. All this and more in this week's FWN! FWN is considering changing the format in response to some reader suggestions. The Developments section this week attempts to be considerably shorter and places URLs below each section instead of interspersing them after each paragraph. We welcome reader feedback on the subject: fedora-news-list at redhat.com. If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[1]. FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Oisin Feeley, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala [0] http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join -- Announcements -- In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/ Contributing Writer: Max Spevack -- Red Hat Certification offer -- STOP THE PRESSES.....50% Discount on Red Hat Certification Exams When the going gets tough - the tough get certified! 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Red Hat reserves the right to withdraw or extend this offer at anytime. -- Updates -- Paul Frields wrote[1] about the update problem affecting D-Bus. "Recently, an update of D-Bus software package in Fedora 10 caused the substantial breakage of some applications, including PackageKit." The announcement includes instructions that explain how a user can update the system manually using yum on the command-line, and return to business-as-usual. If you are unable to perform a normal system update using PackageKit and need help, please read the full announcement. [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-December/msg00012.html -- Planet Fedora -- In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora - an aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide. http://planet.fedoraproject.org Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin -- General -- Dave Jones answers[1] some frequently asked questions and common misconceptions regarding Virtual Memory in Linux Tom Tromey concluded[2,3,4] his excellent series on scripting and extending GDB with Python, including some PyGTK widgetry inside GDB. Michael DeHaan contemplates the complexity of software projects and how to encourage new people to get involved and contribute. "Projects that have a lot of complex interrelationships and need a lot of experience with the codebase (that is acquired over a long period of time) are less apt to attract casual contributions"[5] Jesse Keating announced[6] a new Fedora Hosted project, Offtrac: "Offtrac is my attempt at creating a python library for interacting with trac via xmlrpc." The project can already perform a number of tasks including querying, retrieving and creating tickets and milestones. Kulbir Saini presented[7] some ideas for hacking a Linux install to make it boot faster. Luis Villa offered[8] a followup regarding some comments that he had made criticizing OpenOffice.org's user interface and praising Office 2007. M?ir?n Duffy put together[9] an impressive Lightscribe label template for Fedora. Greg DeKoenigsberg introduced[10] the XO Exchange Registry that "connects people who have XOs and don't need them with people who need XOs and don't have them." Tom Callaway ranted[11] (don't worry, those are his own words) about FOSS licensing. He notes that there are no clear standards for what defines a "Free" distribution, as there are often cases where truly difficult questions arise, but adds "This is why for Fedora, the goal of being 100% Free isn't something that we're losing sleep over. Sure, we'd like to be 100% Free, and we're working towards that every day, but actually being 100% Free is HARD, especially if you want more than 700 MB of packages." John Poelstra discussed[12] the "Benefits of Detailed Schedules" after last week's approval of the Fedora 11 schedule. Till Maas announced[13] "some webpages that cache bugzilla queries of package review requests". So if anyone out there would like to jump in and help review some packages, please do so! (there were 719 packages in the NEW state when Till's post went up and already 725 by the time this sentence was written). Luke Macken decided to share[14] a small python program that determines "the amount of time Fedora updates spend in testing within bodhi". Click in to see the results. Matthew Garrett apparently spent a bit of time traveling, and during that time analyzed[15] a number of showers, as a metaphor for UI design in software. Luke Macken committed a Python API for interacting with the Fedora Wiki and shows off[16] some of its statistical gathering abilities. [1] http://kernelslacker.livejournal.com/132396.html [2] http://tromey.com/blog/?p=548 [3] http://tromey.com/blog/?p=550 [4] http://tromey.com/blog/?p=552 [5] http://www.michaeldehaan.net/?p=798 [6] http://jkeating.livejournal.com/66433.html [7] http://fedora.co.in/content/how-boot-your-fedora-faster [8] http://tieguy.org/blog/2008/12/10/why-im-not-a-big-fan-of-ooo-part-53240/ [9] http://mihmo.livejournal.com/65518.html [10] http://gregdek.livejournal.com/42524.html [11] http://spot.livejournal.com/303000.html [12] http://poelcat.wordpress.com/2008/12/12/benefits-of-detailed-schedules/ [13] http://blogs.23.nu/till/2008/12/cached-package-review-buglists/ [14] http://lewk.org/blog/time-in-testing.html [15] http://mjg59.livejournal.com/104279.html [16] http://lewk.org/blog/wiki.html -- Events -- Folks are still posting[17,18,19] photos and writeups of their experience at FOSS.IN. It really sounds like an amazing time was had by all. [17] http://rishikeshsharma.blogspot.com/2008/12/manipur-fedora-10-release-party.html [18] http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings/2008/12/08/fossin-2008/ [19] http://kushaldas.in/2008/12/10/what-else-we-did-at-fossin/ Thomas Canniot wrote[20] about a successful Fedora Install Fest in Paris [20] http://blog.mrtomlinux.org/index.php?post/Fedora-10-Install-Fest-Report -- Developments -- In this section the people, personalities and debates on the @fedora-devel mailing list are summarized. Contributing Writer: Oisin Feeley -- Fedora 11: OSS and PulseAudio Conflict Resolved by CUSE ? -- A thread[1] from November led Warren Togami to suggest[2] a plan to use CUSE[3] as part of a strategy to deprecate the near obsolete Open Sound System (OSS) which wreaks havoc with PulseAudio enabled boxes. The plan included a fallback to OSS for users who really wanted it. Bastien Nocera was[4] skeptical that CUSE would be ready in time for Fedora 11 and suggested instead that a list of applications using OSS be created so that they could be fixed. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg01005.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02195.html [3] Character Devices in User space: http://lwn.net/Articles/308445/ [4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00872.html -- Rawhide Report 2008-12-08 -- When the latest Rawhide Report logged[1] one maintainers use of cvs-import.sh Dominik Mierzejewski criticised[2] the use of the script for updating. Richard Jones asked[3]: "[I]s this stuff really documented anywhere? I have tended to learn it by osmosis, deduction and reading the horribly complicated rules in Makefile.common." Jason Tibbitts argued[4] that using cvs-import.sh nullified the potential advantages of using an SCM as it sequestered the sources elsewhere. Jesse Keating disagreed[5] due to ease of use issues. A direct answer was provided[6] by Patrice Dumas with links to the relevant portions of the wiki. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00671.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00677.html [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00691.html [4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00694.html [5] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00695.html [6] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00701.html -- The D-Bus Problem -- Ian Amess asked[1] for the current status of a problem caused by a substantial update of the D-Bus package. The update had resulted in the incapacitation of many packages. The most important of these was PackageKit, the default graphical application for managing software. Colin Walters decided[2] that reverting the update was necessary and that changes to D-Bus policy would be postponed. PackageKit, and its GNOME and KDE clients were updated[3] by Richard Hughes in an attempt to accommodate the changes. Richard testified that "[o]ver the last two days we've all been working really hard on fixing up all the projects after the DBus update. I know personally I'm closing a duplicate bugzilla every 30 minutes." He noted that the delay between creating an update and pushing it to a mirror was a limiting factor in being able to implement these fixes. A post to @fedora-announce by Paul Frields explained[4] the series of steps which allowed users to re-enable normal system updates using PackageKit. As of 2008-12-15 this notice also appears at the top of all the Fedora Project wiki pages. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg01391.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg01412.html [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00746.html [4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-December/msg00012.html -- Fedora Com System ? -- An exploration of possible ways to alert users to critical information was initiated[1] by Arthur Pemberton. Most ideas seemed to center around some sort of RSS feed enabled by default on the desktop. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg01347.html -- YUM: Enable --skip-broken by Default ? -- Aliasing yum update to yum --skip-broken update was suggested[1] by Steven Moix as a way to prevent a lot of recurring support problems by eliminating dependency problems. It was attempted[2] to strike a balance between reporting these broken dependencies so that they can be fixed and guarding the list of packages on a user's system as private information. A divergent sub-thread delved[3] into the appropriate use of Conflicts: in rpm packages. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg01161.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg01171.html [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg01349.html -- Making `updates-testing' More Useful -- The means to enable PackageKit to prompt willing users to install testing updates was explored in a thread opened[1] by Matthias Clasen: "Basically, PackageKit should know that these are testing updates, and should ask me 'There are ... package updates available that need testing. Do you want to test these now ?' For extra points, we could even show a 'report back' link somewhere that allows to send comments to bodhi." Richard Hughes prototyped a solution but worried[2] that it would be necessary to make changes to the users' repository configurations without their explicit consent. A sub-thread discussed[3] the problem of out-of-sync mirrors and the use of the --skip-broken option with yum (see also this same FWN#156"YUM: Enable --skip-broken by Default?".) [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00925.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg01063.html [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg01314.html -- Fedora Suckage ? -- The tinder for this week's massive flamewar was laid[1] by Robert Scheck in the form of a dryly ironic, multiple-topic rant. Robert attacked the use of "memory wasting" python daemons, lags in pushing updates compared to the EPEL repositories, lack of information on the recent intrusion, poor German translation, the minimal requirements for LiveCD usage, RPM-4.6 bugs, Red Hat employees blocking Merge Reviews, PackageKit bugs, and the EU support organisation for Fedora[2]! Although there were several worthy attempts to make use of the above material for a true conflagration in general the opportunity was wasted and instead several rational, civil discussions of possible underlying causes and explanations took place. There were some worthy attempts to respond to all parts of this portmanteau complaint, but for the most part the discussion fractured naturally into several threads. One such thread was concerned with the pushing of a D-Bus update which broke many applications including PackageKit. Kevin Kofler argued[3] that "[...] we need to be more careful with certain types of security updates, and better let them get some QA even if it means the fix gets delayed." Michael Schwendt asserted[4] the lack of active Quality Assurance as one of the contributing factors. KevinKofler explained[5] that the package had been rushed out "Because it was deemed a security update, complete with a CVE ID[.]" See this FWN#156 "The D-Bus Problem" for more details. Max Spevack took up[6] the complaints about Fedora EMEA and more of that discussion continued[7] on the more appropriate @fedora-ambassadors list. No further information on the security intrusion was forthcoming from Paul Frields but he relayed[8] that the matter was not being forgotten or hushed up and that he planned to meet with others to discuss communication procedures for any possible future intrusions. Richard Hughes asked[9] for specific bugs to be filed instead of general rants: "[...] I think you need to write much shorter, to the point emails. Ranting doesn't have much affect on anything, whilst filing bugs and getting involved upstream does." He also corrected Robert that many of the daemons which he complained about were written in C, not in Python. Colin Walters issued[10] a mea culpa: "Just to be clear, the direct push into stable is my fault; not Red Hat's or other DBus developers or anyone else's. I had originally listed it for updates-testing, but then changed the update to security and in a moment of total stupidity also changed the listing for stable." The idea of "repeatable updates" was raised[11] again by Les Mikesell and critiqued for want of a practical implementation by James Antill. Jesse Keating made[12] a suggestion: "Treat rawhide as your 'new code' land, leave the release trees as your 'testing and working' code. That is don't be so goddamn eager to push new packages and new upstream releases to every freaking branch in existence." Behdad Esfahbod tackled[13] the issue of Red Hat employees allegedly stalling on merge reviews. Behdad criticized the jumbling together of so many issues and repudiated any suggestion that as the maintainer of un-reviewed packages he "[...] must incorporate the merge reviews and close them, no thank you, I don't mind not maintaining anything in Fedora, and I certainly didn't block anyone from making progress in the merge reviews. When you say `The Red Hat people have to follow the Fedora packaging guidelines and rules same as the Fedora folks', does it mean that Fedora should feel free to decide what *I* work on, when it doesn't decide what `other Fedora folks' work on? That doesn't feel right." The criticism of LiveCD localization was handled[14] by Jeroen van Meeuwen and he accepted that it would be useful if there were some manner in which the Spin SIG could create spins and torrent seeds outside of Fedora release engineering. It seemed that the need to make absolutely certain that such torrents and spins are kept available for support purposes may make this difficult. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00722.html [2] EMEA is a non-profit organization with the mission to provide a focal-point and economic base for the European Fedora community. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00733.html [4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00753.html [5] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00855.html [6] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00772.html [7] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008- December/msg00092.html [8] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00773.html [9] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00798.html [10] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00812.html [11] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00832.html [12] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00913.html [13] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00834.html [14] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00899.html -- Help Needed: Sift "rawhide" for .pc Files -- Jesse Keating requested[1] "[...] somebody to examine all the packages in rawhide that provide .pc [pkg-config] files and ensure proper placement of them based on the review guideline. This will likely require interaction with the packages maintainer(s) so the first step should probably be to produce a list of packages that ship .pc in a non -devel package and send the list (sorted by maintainer) to here so that we can discuss and pick off items." Michael Schwendt helped[2] to start the process by providing some lists of non-devel packages which included .pc files or had requires which pulled in packages which provided .pc files. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00612.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00648.html -- Offtrac -- An itch scratched[1] by Jesse Keating was to be able to interact with Trac via the commandline to create milestones for the Fedora 11 release cycle. He implemented his own python library, named Offtrac, to interact with trac using XML-RPC and asked for help in firming up the API and extending his client. Later Jesse explained[2] that the purpose was to "[...] make some aspects of using trac easier for folks, not just project owners but people who file tickets in track, like say for package tagging requests, or blocks, or... " [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00738.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00808.html -- Updates QA and Karma -- The updates system came in for some more questioning (see this FWN#156 "Making `updates-testing' More Useful") when Orion Poplawski showed[1] that an rpcbind update for Fedora 9 may have been pushed to stable despite comments made by him indicating that it failed due to a dependency. Orion asked two questions: "[1] Should update submitters be allowed to give positive karma to their updates? Seems like that they are too biased. [2] Is there any requirement that an update have positive karma before being pushed to stable?" It appeared that ultimately monitoring of such pushes are down to package maintainers and depend upon the good judgment of those doing the updates. Michael Schwendt provided[2] an overview of the situation. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg01298.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg01427.html -- Translation -- This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n) Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee -- Modules Updated in translate.fedoraproject.org 5 modules have been updated[1] in translate.fedoraproject.org due to a move in the backend repositories. These are system-config-(services|date|samba|users|nfs). NilsPhilippsen had earlier conveyed[2] the proposed shift. These modules can now be updated via translate.fedoraprojet.org. DiegoZacarao also adds[1] that the docs modules for these 5 modules would also be added soon for translation submission. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00062.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-November/msg00065.html -- New languages for Fedora Websites -- The Fedora website pages can now be seen in two more languages - Russian[3] and Bulgarian[4]. Additionally, RickyZhou also mentions[5][6] that the language code needs to be added to the LINGUAS file and a ticket with Fedora Infrastructure can be filed to ensure the translations included in Fedora websites. [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00054.html [4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00057.html [5] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00056.html [6] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00059.html -- Fedora 10- Release Notes Updation Process -- Any changes to the Fedora 10 Release Notes are to be submitted via translate.fedoraproject.org into the "f1-" branch[7]. KarstenWade also mentions that an intimation to the fedora-docs mailing list would be helpful to ensure that the modifications are accounted for, for the next build. [7] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00036.html -- Suggestions for Fedora Translation Process Improvements -- RobertScheck initiated a general discussion[8] about suggestions to various aspects of the Fedora process including translations. Thomas Spura suggested an an online translation tool[9] that would help more translators to participate in the translation process. Lauri Nurmi reiterates[10] the risks to quality of translations due to a splurge in the quantity of unmonitored translations. [8] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00038.html [9] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00041.html [10] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00042.html -- New Members in FLP -- Christof K?lin[11], Mario Italo[12] and Liu Peng[13] joined the German, Brazilian Portugeuse and Simplified Chinese teams respectively. [11] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00045.html [12] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00063.html [13] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00069.html -- Artwork -- In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei -- Reimagining the Fedora Art Team -- Following a talk on the chat channel, M?ir?n Duffy proposed[1] on @fedora-art a reimagining of the Art Team, as a better way to define the activities encompassed by its members "The Fedora Art Team's name and focus is more on artwork than UI design. Folks in Fedora who need help with UI design or potential contributors who want to help out with UI design might not necessarily link those kinds of tasks to an art team so they might be a bit lost. What if we renamed the art team to be the 'Fedora Design & Creative Team,' and the art team as it is now would be a subgroup of this new design team? Under a 'design' banner, it might be easier for developers seeking out UI design advice to know where to go, and for community UI designers to find a home / a place to get involved." The proposal was welcomed warmly, with only a minor technical concern[2] from Ian Weller "Only thing I'm worried about is renaming all the references to the Art team that we control, but, eh, whatever." [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-December/msg00059.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-December/msg00063.html -- OLPC Branding -- An earlier project of the Art Team, reported back at the time in Fedora Weekly News, to create a secondary mark for Fedora derivatives came to fruition: OLPC has started to use it for Sugar and Paul Frields asked[1] for a guidelines compliance check on @fedora-art and M?ir?n Duffy approved[2] it. This is the first known use of the secondary trademark. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-December/msg00070.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-December/msg00072.html -- A Fedora Promo Video (Beta) -- Mar?a Leandro posted[1] on @fedora-art a video experiment she's working on "I'm working on some videos that can be used on events or some clips. This is the first beta (well... 2nd) and is an easy animation on blender with the 'infinite' and the 'four f's' messages. The idea came up because in LatinAmerica there's an event, FLISoL (installfest) and it was a good idea to have 'something' on the big screen when the Fedora-Team is giving some information, media and stickers" and followed quickly[2] with an improved version. WARNING: the video[3] is available in the "evil" Flash format. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-December/msg00074.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-December/msg00082.html [3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci2DhmjqWt0 -- Security Advisories -- In this section, we cover Security Advisories from fedora-package-announce. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-package-announce Contributing Writer: David Nalley -- Fedora 10 Security Advisories -- * dbus-1.2.6-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00209.html * squirrelmail-1.4.17-2.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00232.html * clamav-0.94.2-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00308.html * syslog-ng-2.0.10-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00397.html * java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-7.b12.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00444.html * awstats-6.8-3.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00495.html * vinagre-2.24.2-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00503.html * cups-1.3.9-4.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00562.html * gallery2-2.3-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00781.html * drupal-6.7-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00806.html * roundcubemail-0.2-4.beta.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00817.html * phpMyAdmin-3.1.1-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00830.html -- Fedora 9 Security Advisories -- * squirrelmail-1.4.17-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00223.html * syslog-ng-2.0.10-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00237.html * java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-0.20.b09.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00384.html * dbus-1.2.6-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00436.html * vinagre-0.5.2-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00473.html * awstats-6.8-3.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00509.html * cups-1.3.9-2.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00581.html * phpMyAdmin-3.1.1-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00757.html * drupal-6.7-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00767.html * roundcubemail-0.2-4.beta.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00802.html * gallery2-2.3-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00832.html -- Fedora 8 Security Advisories -- Fedora 8 is nearing EOL Per FESCo support for Fedora 8 will be discontinued on January 7th 2009 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02014.html * squirrelmail-1.4.17-1.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00449.html * syslog-ng-2.0.10-1.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00450.html * awstats-6.8-3.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00480.html * vinagre-0.4-2.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00485.html * cups-1.3.9-2.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00595.html * drupal-5.13-1.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00740.html * roundcubemail-0.2-4.beta.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00783.html * phpMyAdmin-3.1.1-1.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00784.html * gallery2-2.3-1.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00794.html -- Libvirt List -- This section contains the discussion happening on the libvir-list. -- sVirt 0.20 Patch Request for Comments -- James Morris announced[1] "the release of v0.20[2] of sVirt, a project to add security labeling support to Linux-based virtualization. I'm hoping to be able to propose an initial version for upstream merge within the next few minor releases, tasks for which are being scoped out in the new TODO list[3]." "If the current release passes review, the next major task will be to add dynamic MCS labeling of domains and disk images for simple isolation." Daniel P. Berrange said "this patch all looks pretty good to me from a the point of view of libvirt integration & XML config representation." [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-December/msg00260.html [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue149#sVirt_Initial_Prototype_Release [3] http://selinuxproject.org/page/SVirt/TODO -- Latest libvirt on RHEL and CentOS 5.2 -- Marco Sinhoreli needed[1] image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt 0.5.x for testing oVirt on RHEL 5.2. Marco wondered what was necessary to update from the 0.3.x version available for RHEL. Soon after, Daniel P. Berrange "uploaded[2] a set of patches[3] which make libvirt 0.5.1 work with RHEL-5's version of Xen. Basically we have to tweak a few version assumptions to take account of fact that RHEL-5 Xen has a number of feature backports like the new paravirt framebuffer and NUMA support." "Of course running a newer libvirt on RHEL-5 is totally unsupported but hopefully these will be usful to those who absolutely need this newer libvirt and don't mind about lack of support." [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-December/msg00218.html [2] http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-December/msg00298.html [3] http://berrange.fedorapeople.org/libvirt-rhel5-xen/ -- oVirt Devel List -- This section contains the discussion happening on the ovirt-devel list. -- Building oVirt from Rawhide -- Perry Myers posted[1] instructions for building[2] and installing[3] oVirt from rawhide. [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/ovirt-devel/2008-December/msg00127.html [2] http://ovirt.org/rawhide-build-instructions.html [3] http://ovirt.org/rawhide-install-instructions.html --- end Fedora Weekly News #156 --- Pascal Calarco https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pcalarco From metherid at gmail.com Tue Dec 16 01:45:20 2008 From: metherid at gmail.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:15:20 +0530 Subject: Announcing Omega 10 Message-ID: <49470830.1060502@gmail.com> Hello Friends, I am pleased to announce the general release of Omega 10, a Linux based operating system and a community Fedora Remix for desktop and laptop users. It is a installable Live CD for regular PC (i686 architecture) systems. It has all the features of Fedora 10 and a number of additional multimedia players and codecs. You can play any multimedia including MP3 music or commercial DVD's out of the box. In addition to that, a number of other useful software including Brasero media burner, OpenJDK - Free and open source Java, including the browser plugin and command line utilities like mc and powertop is packed in the Live CD and available by default. For what's new in Fedora 10, refer to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_10_release_summary Download: --------- ftp://ftp.infradead.org/pub/spins/omega-10-desktop.iso SHA1SUM: -------- 63b8e2f0a8d14a9c4ae4bbc4b031e4ad8a98ccc8 omega-10-desktop.iso Release Notes: -------------- ftp://ftp.infradead.org/pub/spins/README.Omega-10-Release-Notes Kickstart file for your own customization is at ftp://ftp.infradead.org/pub/spins/omega-10-desktop-livecd.ks Enjoy Omega. Thank you for your participation and feedback. Rahul From ricky at fedoraproject.org Tue Dec 16 08:41:15 2008 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:41:15 -0500 Subject: Outage Notification: Koji, Wiki, Smolt, Transifex Message-ID: <20081216084115.GA7779@sphe.res.cmu.edu> Outage Notification - 2008-12-16 08:10 UTC There has been an unplanned outage beginning at 2008-12-16 08:10 UTC. There is currently no ETA for resolving these issues. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d 'YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM UTC' Affected Services: Buildsystem (Koji) Database (all postgresql and mysql databases on db3) Websites (Transifex, Smolt, Wiki) Translation Services Unaffected Services: CVS / Source Control DNS Fedora Hosted Fedora People Fedora Talk Mail Mirror System Torrent Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1059 Reason for Outage: db3, our current Koji PostgreSQL server and MySQL server is having disk problems. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The F9, and, hopefully, the F10 user guides should be released in the coming weeks. > Matthew Daniels -- _____________________________ Reply To: danielsmw at gmail.com From bpepple at fedoraproject.org Sun Dec 21 14:43:43 2008 From: bpepple at fedoraproject.org (Brian Pepple) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 09:43:43 -0500 Subject: December 2008 FESCo Election Results Message-ID: <1229870623.2847.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Election Results for FESCo - Fedora 10 Cycle Voting Period: 07 December 2008 00:00:00 UTC to 20 December 2008 23:59:59 UTC Nominations: * Dan Hor?k (sharkcz) * Dominik Mierzejewski (rathann) * Jarod Wilson (jwilson) * Jon Stanley (jds2001) * Josh Boyer (jwb) Outcomes: As defined in the election text, the four (4) candidate(s) with the greatest number of votes will be elected for a full, 2 release term. Information: At close of voting there were: 169 valid ballots Using the Fedora Range Voting method, each candidate could attain a maximum of 845 votes (5*169). Results: 1. Josh Boyer (jwb) 489 2. Dan Hor?k (sharkcz) 485 3. Jarod Wilson (jwilson) 485 4. Jon Stanley (jds2001) 453 ***** 5. Dominik Mierzejewski (rathann) 396 As such, Josh Boyer, Dan Hor?k, Jarod Wilson and Jon Stanley are elected to FESCo for a 2 release term as of January 7, 2009. Btw, I would like to thank Matt Domsch and Nigel Jones for all the work they did in setting up and running this election. Later, /B -- Brian Pepple https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bpepple gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 810CC15E BD5E 6F9E 8688 E668 8F5B CBDE 326A E936 810C C15E -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Here the communication made by Nigel Jones, the Elections Administrator, with the election result: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Election Results for FAmSCo - Fedora 11 Cycle Voting Period: 07 December 2008 00:00:00 UTC to 20 December 23:59:59 UTC Nominations: * David Nalley (ke4qqq) * Francesco Ugolini (fugolini) * Hector Gonzalez (hagr182) * Joerg Simon (kital) * Larry Cafiero (lcafiero) * Max Spevack (spevack) * Rodrigo Padula (RodrigoPadula) * Sandro Mathys (red_alert) * Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit) * Thomas Canniot (MrTom) Outcomes: As defined in the election text, the seven (7) candidate(s) with the greatest number of votes will be elected for full 2 release term. Information: At close of voting there were: 126 valid ballots Using the Fedora Range Voting method, each candidate could attain a maximum of 1260 votes (10*126). Results: 1. Max Spevack (spevack) 917 2. Joerg Simon (kital) 695 3. Francesco Ugolini (fugolini) 684 4. Thomas Canniot (MrTom) 561 5. Rodrigo Padula (RodrigoPadula) 548 6. David Nalley (ke4qqq) 487 7. Susmit Shannigrahi (susmit) 442 ***** 8. Sandro Mathys (red_alert) 356 9. Larry Cafiero (lcafiero) 346 10. Hector Gonzalez (hagr182) 252 As such, Max Spevack, Joerg Simon, Francesco Ugolini, Thomas Canniot, Rodrigo Padula, David Nalley and Susmit Shannigrahi are elected to FAmSCo for a full 2 relase term. Signed, Nigel Jones Elections Administrator ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Congratulation to all the winners and big thanks to all the partecipants of this amazing race: your name, along with your ideas, will help next FAmSCo and Ambassadors Project having a better future! Many thanks to Nigel for his precious work and to whoever helped organizing this election. Best regards on behalf of former FAmSCo Francesco Ugolini From stickster at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 15:21:13 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:21:13 -0500 Subject: December 2008 Fedora Board election results Message-ID: <20081221152043.GA25415@localhost.localdomain> Election Results for Fedora Board, Fedora 11 Release Cycle Voting Period: 07 December 2008 00:00:00 UTC to 20 December 2008 23:59:59 UTC Nominations: * Bill Nottingham (notting) * David Cantrell (dcantrell) * Dimitris Glezos (glezos) * Jon Stanley (jds2001) * Josh Boyer (jwb) * Matt Domsch (mdomsch) * Michael DeHaan (mpdehaan) Outcomes: As defined in the election text, the two (2) candidate(s) with the greatest number of votes will be elected for a full, 2 release term. Information: At close of voting there were: 227 valid ballots Using the Fedora Range Voting method, each candidate could attain a maximum of 1589 votes (7*227). Results: 1. Bill Nottingham (notting) 993 2. Matt Domsch (mdomsch) 962 ***** 3. Dimitris Glezos (glezos) 816 4. Michael DeHaan (mpdehaan) 742 5. Jon Stanley (jds2001) 691 6. Josh Boyer (jwb) 685 7. David Cantrell (dcantrell) 574 As such, Bill Nottingham and Matt Domsch are elected to the Fedora Board for a 2 release term. I'd like to thank our community for participating in the election, Matt Domsch for his assistance in scheduling town hall meetings for the candidates, and Nigel Jones for his work in setting up and administering the voting process. * * * * * There are a few individuals under consideration for the final appointed Board seat. This appointment is made after elections are completed to balance the Board's composition, and represent the entire Fedora community as much as possible. Although this appointment is ultimately up to the Fedora Project Leader to decide, generally the FPL discusses the appointments with others to achieve a consensus. Because of the impending holidays, the timing of election returns, and lower availability of some Red Hat employees due to both the calendar and recent inclement weather in Westford, I will be delaying the last appointment until after the holidays, so that I have an opportunity to talk with people whose opinions I value. Since the Board does not meet again until after the New Year, the current (pre-election) Board will have its final meeting at the public IRC gathering scheduled for Tuesday, January 6. The next meeting of the Board, on Tuesday, January 13, will be the first meeting of the new Board. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We would like to thank our readers for their interest and attention and all our contributors for producing the goods week after week. May you all have a happy and relaxing holiday and we look forward to seeing you again in January 2009. If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[1]. We welcome reader feedback: fedora-news-list at redhat.com FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Oisin Feeley, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join -- Announcements -- In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/ Contributing Writer: Max Spevack -- FWN Holiday Break -- Fedora Weekly News will be on vacation for the next two weeks. Our next issue will be published on January 12th. Happy holidays! -- FUDCon Boston 2009 -- FUDCon Boston 2009 is January 9-11. It is not too late to register[1]. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConF11 -- Fedora Remixes -- Rahul Sundaram announced[2] the General Availability of Omega 10, "a Linux based operating system and a community Fedora Remix for desktop and laptop users." Sundaram added, "It is a installable Live CD for regular PC (i686 architecture) systems. It has all the features of Fedora 10 and a number of additional multimedia players and codecs. You can play any multimedia including MP3 music or commercial DVD's out of the box." For additional information, and to download Omega or view the kickstart used to create it, please read the full announcement. [2] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-December/msg00014.html -- Planet Fedora -- In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora - an aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide. http://planet.fedoraproject.org Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin -- General -- M?ir?n Duffy said[1] it best: "ZOMG Stickers!!!!11" Rex Dieter announced[2] a new fedora-kde mailing list Harald Hoyer analyzed[3] the Fedora 10 boot process on an EeePC 901 with a solid-state disk, including some easy optimizations Casey Dahlin wrote a series[4,5,6,7] on a new internal state machine driving the Upstart service manager Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay discussed[8] some of the commonly overlooked difficulties of the commonly overlooked process of internationalization (i18n) and localization (l10n) Warren Togami had[9] some problems netbooting old PowerPC Macs as Thin Clients (and is open to suggestions) Tim Waugh posted[10] a tutorial on preventing a Python/GTK+ application from appearing to freeze while performing CUPS operations Abhishek Rane summarized[11] his thoughts on "Best of FOSS and Linux in 2008" Dimitris Glezos described[12] Transifex and their new startup company built around it Christoph Wickert embedded[13] a video interview with Mario Behling talking about LXDE Jef Spaleta offered[14] a number of retrospective questions at the end of his tenure on the Fedora Board S?bastien Bilbeau posted[15] the "25 Best Linux Desktop Customization Screenshots" Yaakov Nemoy mused[16] about the relationship between the Open Source development process and anarchy [1] http://mihmo.livejournal.com/65838.html [2] http://rdieter.livejournal.com/11262.html [3] http://www.harald-hoyer.de/personal/blog/fedora-10-boot-analysis [4] http://screwyouenterpriseedition.blogspot.com/2008/12/new-upstart-state-machine.html [5] http://screwyouenterpriseedition.blogspot.com/2008/12/new-upstart-state-machine-part-2.html [6] http://screwyouenterpriseedition.blogspot.com/2008/12/new-upstart-state-machine-part-3.html [7] http://screwyouenterpriseedition.blogspot.com/2008/12/new-upstart-state-machine-part-4.html [8] http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/2008/12/16/and-here-we-go-again-2/ [9] http://wtogami.livejournal.com/29574.html [10] http://cyberelk.net/tim/2008/12/17/cups-gtk-python-and-threading/ [11] http://www.abhishekrane.com/2008/12/17/best-of-foss-and-linux-in-2008/ [12] http://dimitris.glezos.com/weblog/2008/12/17/chasing-a-dream [13] http://www.christoph-wickert.de/blog/2008/12/18/lxde-presentation-at-red-hat-singapore/ [14] http://jspaleta.livejournal.com/29998.html [15] http://www.tux-planet.fr/25-best-linux-desktop-customization-screenshots/ [16] http://loupgaroublond.blogspot.com/2008/12/open-source-and-anarchism.html -- Events -- Fedora Release Party in Milan[17] Fedora Day at Menoufiya Universty, Egypt[18] [17] http://people.byte-code.com/fcrippa/2008/12/19/fedora-release-party-milan-italy/ [18] http://www.fossology.net/Fedora_Day_at_Menoufiya_Universty_Egypt_release_10 -- Developments -- In this section the people, personalities and debates on the @fedora-devel mailing list are summarized. Contributing Writer: Oisin Feeley -- Nautilus Spatial-mode Flamewar -- The tired, old topic of whether nautilus should use "spatial-mode" as a default was re-opened[1] by MarkG85 in the form of a request for list subscribers to "vote" on the mailing list for a reversion to "browser-mode". In spatial-mode nautilus opens a new window for each directory unless one middle-clicks or holds the shift key down. It was pointed out by several contributors that voting "+/- 1" was not a recognized way to achieve change within the Fedora Project. Chris Adams asked[2] if he and his friends "[...] should [...] all spam fedora-devel with `+1' and `metoo' to change the default background color? What if it is 20 friends, or 100, or 500?" A similar point was made[3] by Jef Spaleta. Dimi Paun expressed[4] frustration with what he charcaterized as "lame community involvenment" and several personal attacks were made on both the maintainer and other contributors who had deprecated the attempt to take a mailing list vote. After tempers had flared Jeff commented[5]: "Noone has figured out how to write a markup language for human intention...and as a result any passionate discussion degrades severely as we are wired to read intention but without body language and vocal ques...we absolutely do it wrong when relying solely on written language. Even more so with English! If we mandated everyone encode thought into Lisp we'd be having more constructive discussions (and less of them). The productivity of the list would be through the roof." In response to a challenge to detail some advantages of spatial-mode Tomas Torcz was among those who offered[6] that the persistent screen placement of directory windows was a major advantage. He also suggested a way to avoid leaving multiple windows open: "When I open new window and don't want parent directory open, I just open with middle button. Some people prefer Shift+click in this situation. I never has to use `Close all parent folder' (ctrlshift-w), but I aware it exist." Joonas Saraj?rvi confirmed[7] the persistence as an advantage: "[...] the state of each folder is persistent. Every window opens in the same view that it had when I reopen them. I can have appropriate zoom levels and views for every directory I commonly use." Very much later in the thread, after he had been referred to several times, the package maintainer Alexander Larsson replied[8] that he was unconvinced both by the tone and content of the argument that there was a case to be made for changing the default. It is possible to choose which behavior one wants by at least two methods. One can either use the GUI Nautilus -> Preferences -> Behavior -> Always open in browser windows or else change the GConf setting using gconftool-2 --type boolean --set /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_browser true As part of the argument involved a desire to be able to replicate these settings automatically and possibly distribute them to others Matthias Clasen suggested[9] that anyone wishing to make permanent change to the default settings could create a sabayon profile. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02089.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02286.html [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02305.html [4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02416.html [5] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02392.html [6] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02387.html [7] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02213.html [8] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02189.html [9] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02389.html -- Font Package Naming Guidelines -- Nicholas Mailhot ensured[1] that everyone was made aware of the new font package naming rules for Fedora 11. These will help break up large font packages in order to allow users to obtain fonts from desired families without imposing a large download burden. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02597.html -- How to become a Co-Maintainer -- Ray Van Dolson asked[1] for some information on identifying the current (co)maintainers of the proftpd package, the procedure to become a co-maintainer and the abilities to push bugfixes which this would confer upon him if the primary maintainer were absent. A full answer was provided[2] by Patrice Dumas with links to PackageDB and the policies on the wiki regarding non-responsive maintainers. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02253.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02255.html -- Proposed Package Re-Naming Guidelines -- Feedback was requested[1] by Kevin Fenzi on a draft guideline concerning the re-naming of packages either as a result of upstream action or locally to adhere to the NamingGuidelines. Patrice Dumas and Dennis Gilmore remembered[2] that a re-review followed by EOL of the old package was the current practice. Jason Tibbitts[3] and Jesse Keating[4] referenced IRC discussions of the practice and its advantages in checking the Obsoletes and Provides in discussion with Jochen Schmitt. Jochen was concerned[5] that the process be kept lightweight as opposed to a full review. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02052.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02054.html [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02058.html [4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02056.html [5] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02060.html -- Exiv2 Bump in Rawhide -- Rex Dieter announced[1] that a bump to exiv2-0.18[2] would occur soon including a soname bump. Jon Ciesla offered to help and Rex produced[3] a quick list of dependent applications. When Matej Cepl struggled with some odd results Michael Chudobiak answered[4] that the API had changed a good deal. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02061.html [2] Exiv is a command-line utility for examining EXIF and IPTC metadata of images. [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02068.html [4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02244.html -- wxGTK2 to wxGTK Re-name -- Michael Schwendt discovered[1] that a rename had been performed[2] some time ago so that there was no wxGTK2-devel package available. Dan Hor?k explained[3] that only audacity was affected. There was[4] some discussion about whether versioned Provides should be kept indefinitely. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg01897.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg01972.html [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg01975.html [4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg02046.html -- RFC: Description Text in Packages -- Follow-up action (see FWN#153[1]) was requested[2] by Richard Hughes for packagers to fix "isane descriptions" in their package summary text. Enlightenment was singled out as an example of an undesirable multi-page description. Richard also asked for comments on how bullet-points should be represented and the use of UTF-8. A heated discussion followed[3] in which Nicolas Mailhot deprecated the possible development of a "broken application-side transcoding system". He advocated the use of UTF-8 over ASCII for several reasons including supporting the default Asian locales. Paragraph boundaries and lists were also mentioned[4] as a special area of concern. This is a long and painful thread to read which expresses a conflict between constraints imposed by PackageKit and how things are currently done. Packagers should probably skim it to determine what final decisions are going to be made. Richard Hughes seemed[5] to decide to implement what seemed to him to be sane changes to gnome-packagekit in which "If you're [g]oing to use [UTF-8 representations of skull-and-crossbones and radiation-hazard symbols] in a spec file, then the text box is going to look rubbish and be all on one line. If you use a description longer than a few hundred words, gnome-packagekit will truncate it." [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue153#RFC:_Fix_Summary_Text_for_Lots_of_Packages [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg01550.html [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg01555.html [4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg01577.html [5] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg01927.html -- Documentation -- In this section, we cover the Fedora Documentation Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject Contributing Writer: Jason Taylor -- Holiday Hackfest -- This year there is going to be a Virtual Hackfest[0] with the goal of getting Fedora Documentation Project Guides up to date and ready for publication. Karsten presented a ToDo list[1] this week. The dates for the Hackfest are December 27, 2008 through January 4, 2009. [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_Holiday_Virtual_Hackfest [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2008-December/msg00139.html -- Translation -- This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n) Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee -- Sponsors for cvsl10n -- The discussion about reorganizing the cvsl10n sponsorship process was restarted by KarstenWade[1], highlighting the long queue of new entrants waiting for sponsorhip. Currently, the policies governing the sponsorship process for the cvsl10n group do not ensure notification to the language team's co-ordinator of a new entrant, unless informed by the latter. As a result of a precaution taken by the current sponsor against arbitrary approval, the waiting queue has been growing. Suggested changes include, providing all the co-ordinators with sponsorship rights. KarstenWade also suggested the renaming of the admin group to "l10n" instead of "cvsl10n". [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00079.html -- Kudos for the Serbian Translation Team and FLP -- OisinFeeley and PaulFrields informed[2] about the prompt work done by the Serbian contributors of the Fedora Localization Project, as part of Serbian Government's initiatives to localize open source software. An article in LWN[3] (available publicly after Dec 25th 2008) says that 99% work of the Fedora Translation was completed on time. [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00074.html [3] http://lwn.net/Articles/310740/ -- Transifex Outage -- An unplanned outage of the Transifex instance, on http://translate.fedoraproject.org occurred last week, alongwith koji, wiki and smolt outage[4]. [4] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-December/msg00072.html -- Artwork -- In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei -- Perspective and the Echo Icons -- Martin Sourada called for a decision[1] on @fedora-art "we need to make final decisions about the new perspective to Echo and update the guidelines appropriately" with his proposal being "We will start new Echo Perspective icon theme which will * be developed in parallel to the current Echo * until it reaches good enough coverage, it will fallback to current Echo and gnome-icon-theme * use same Perspective Projection as in tango/mango for 32x32 icons and bigger, and in cases where it helps icon distinction in smaller sizes as well, Flat Perspective will be used for the rest * allow small amount of glows/glazes/shines in 256x256 version to achieve better realistic look * use ~ 1 px thick solid borders at all sizes" [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-December/msg00109.html -- The FUCCon Boston 2009 T-shirt -- In a message addressed to both @fedora-art and @fedora-marketing M?ir?n Duffy asked for a vote[1] for the design of the official T-Shirt for the upcoming FUDCon in Boston "I made the design two-color so hopefully it'll be cheaper to print [...] There's two main designs that are just different in the treatment of the back portion of the shirt" and the majority of the respondents opted for one of them[2], which at the time of this writing should be already going to print. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-December/msg00092.html [2] https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/1/17/Artwork_T(2d)Shirt_fudcon-boston-2009-1_design.png -- Creation Highlights -- This week a few members of the community shared with @fedora-art some of their latest works: * Mar?a Leandro continued her work[1] on a promo video[2] (warning: streaming Flash content); * Susmit Shannigrahi started[3] a leaflet[4] to be handed at Fedora booths; * Mola Pahnadayan created[5] a cool looking 3D composition Blender, pretty much in his style famous form the Fedora Core 6 DNA wallpaper. [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-December/msg00125.html [2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od8Utt6anLw [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-December/msg00099.html [4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Leaflet.png [5] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-December/msg00116.html [6] http://mola-mp.deviantart.com/art/Fedora-10-106577570 -- Security Advisories -- In this section, we cover Security Advisories from fedora-package-announce. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-package-announce Contributing Writer: David Nalley -- Fedora 10 Security Advisories -- * dbus-1.2.6-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00209.html * squirrelmail-1.4.17-2.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00232.html * clamav-0.94.2-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00308.html * syslog-ng-2.0.10-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00397.html * java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-7.b12.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00444.html * awstats-6.8-3.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00495.html * vinagre-2.24.2-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00503.html * cups-1.3.9-4.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00562.html * gallery2-2.3-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00781.html * drupal-6.7-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00806.html * roundcubemail-0.2-4.beta.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00817.html * phpMyAdmin-3.1.1-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00830.html -- Fedora 9 Security Advisories -- * squirrelmail-1.4.17-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00223.html * syslog-ng-2.0.10-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00237.html * java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-0.20.b09.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00384.html * dbus-1.2.6-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00436.html * vinagre-0.5.2-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00473.html * awstats-6.8-3.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00509.html * cups-1.3.9-2.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00581.html * phpMyAdmin-3.1.1-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00757.html * drupal-6.7-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00767.html * roundcubemail-0.2-4.beta.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00802.html * gallery2-2.3-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00832.html -- Fedora 8 Security Advisories -- Fedora 8 is nearing EOL Per FESCo support for Fedora 8 will be discontinued on January 7th 2009 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-November/msg02014.html * squirrelmail-1.4.17-1.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00449.html * syslog-ng-2.0.10-1.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00450.html * awstats-6.8-3.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00480.html * vinagre-0.4-2.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00485.html * cups-1.3.9-2.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00595.html * drupal-5.13-1.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00740.html * roundcubemail-0.2-4.beta.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00783.html * phpMyAdmin-3.1.1-1.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00784.html * gallery2-2.3-1.fc8 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-December/msg00794.html -- Virtualization -- In this section, we cover discussion on the @et-mgmnt-tools-list, @fedora-xen-list, @libvirt-list and @ovirt-devel-list of Fedora virtualization technologies. Contributing Writer: Dale Bewley -- Libvirt List -- This section contains the discussion happening on the libvir-list. -- sVirt 0.20 Patch Request for Comments -- James Morris announced[1] "the release of v0.20[2] of sVirt, a project to add security labeling support to Linux-based virtualization. I'm hoping to be able to propose an initial version for upstream merge within the next few minor releases, tasks for which are being scoped out in the new TODO list[3]." "If the current release passes review, the next major task will be to add dynamic MCS labeling of domains and disk images for simple isolation." Daniel P. Berrange said "this patch all looks pretty good to me from a the point of view of libvirt integration & XML config representation." [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-December/msg00260.html [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue149#sVirt_Initial_Prototype_Release [3] http://selinuxproject.org/page/SVirt/TODO -- Latest libvirt on RHEL and CentOS 5.2 -- Marco Sinhoreli needed[1] image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt 0.5.x for testing oVirt on RHEL 5.2. Marco wondered what was necessary to update from the 0.3.x version available for RHEL. Soon after, Daniel P. Berrange "uploaded[2] a set of patches[3] which make libvirt 0.5.1 work with RHEL-5's version of Xen. Basically we have to tweak a few version assumptions to take account of fact that RHEL-5 Xen has a number of feature backports like the new paravirt framebuffer and NUMA support." "Of course running a newer libvirt on RHEL-5 is totally unsupported but hopefully these will be usful to those who absolutely need this newer libvirt and don't mind about lack of support." [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-December/msg00218.html [2] http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-December/msg00298.html [3] http://berrange.fedorapeople.org/libvirt-rhel5-xen/ -- oVirt Devel List -- This section contains the discussion happening on the ovirt-devel list. -- Building oVirt from Rawhide -- Perry Myers posted[1] instructions for building[2] and installing[3] oVirt from rawhide. --- end FWN 157 --- From jonstanley at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 18:55:40 2008 From: jonstanley at gmail.com (Jon Stanley) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:55:40 -0500 Subject: FINAL REMINDER: Fedora 8 EOL Message-ID: This is a reminder that as of January 7, 2009, Fedora 8 will be end-of-life and no further updates, including security updates, will be released at that time, and new builds will not be allowed in the buildsystem. Also as of that date, all open bugs against Fedora 8 will be CLOSED WONTFIX. Thanks! -Jon