From kevin at scrye.com Thu Apr 2 17:37:31 2009 From: kevin at scrye.com (Kevin Fenzi) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 11:37:31 -0600 Subject: Fedora IRC Classroom sessions this weekend (2009-04-04 and 2009-04-05) Message-ID: <20090402113731.3e46284c@ohm.scrye.com> Just thought I would remind everyone that we are going to be holding some IRC Classes in the fedora classroom this weekend. Classes are held in #fedora-classroom on irc.freenode.net. Classes this weekend start at 10:00 UTC on both Saturday and Sunday. See: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom for more details. We have some great looking classes lined up this time! (We also still have open class slots for anyone who would like to sign up to teach this weekend). Also, we are always looking for teachers and suggestions for topics for new classes. See the above wiki page to add a suggestion or just reply to this email or mailing list thread. Hope to see a bunch of you there! kevin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pcalarco at nd.edu Mon Apr 6 17:32:48 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:32:48 -0400 Subject: Fedora Weekly News #170 Message-ID: <49DA3CC0.5070107@nd.edu> Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 170 for the week ending April 5, 2009. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue170 In this week's issue, we're proud to include the Fedora Weekly webcomic by Nicu Buculei, who has been producing this regularly for some time. We think you will enjoy Nicu's art and humor. Other selected content includes: * Detailed coverage in the announcements and infrastructure sections on the August 2008 Fedora security intrusion, and updates on the upcoming FUDCon Berlin. * News from the Fedora Planet includes updates on the fourth grade math project for Sugar/OLPC, reviews of Songbird and Flock, amongst other birds of a feather. * In the Developments beat, the mysteries of Fedora & OpenSolaris dual-boot is revealed. * Translation: updates on F11 release note translations, and new members of the Fedora Localization Project * An interview with three members of the Art Team in this week's Art Beat * April Fools and the Conflicker worm, in this week's Security Week beat * Security updates for Fedora 9 and 10 over the past week * Updates on the state of virtualization in Fedora, with a view towards F11 feature rollup If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[1]. We welcome reader feedback: fedora-news-list at redhat.com 1. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Oisin Feeley, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala -- Announcements -- In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events Contributing Writer: Max Spevack --- Fedora Board --- Paul Frields[1] reminded[2] the community that the Fedora Board will be "holding its monthly public meeting on Tuesday, 7 April 2009, at 1800 UTC on IRC Freenode." Join #fedora-board-meeting to see the Board's conversation. Join #fedora-board-public to discuss topics and post questions. This channel is read/write for everyone. Paul also mentioned a change in the procedure for the meeting. "We're trying something new (albeit in a minor way) in this meeting. The moderator will still be available to gather input from the #fedora-board-public channel, but will voice people, one at a time, in the queue in the #fedora-board-meeting channel." --- Security --- Paul Frields also issued[3] a detailed, and final report to the Fedora community regarding the August 2008 intrusion. Because of the detailed nature of the announcement, rather than summarize it here, your correspondent encourages people to read the full link. 1. ? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-March/msg00009.html 3. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-March/msg00010.html --- Fedora 11 --- Jesse Keating[1] announced[2] the release of Fedora 11 Beta on March 31. More details about this release will appear later in this week's FWN. 1. ? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JesseKeating 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-March/msg00012.html --- FUDCon Berlin 2009 --- Max Spevack[1] reminded[2] the community about FUDCon Berlin 2009[3], including registration[4], lodging[5], and speaking[6] opportunities. 1. ? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MaxSpevack 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-March/msg00005.html 3. ? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009 4. ? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009_attendees 5. ? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009_lodging 6. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_Berlin_and_LinuxTag_2009_talks --- Upcoming Events --- April 15: NYLUG[1] in New York, New York, USA. April 17-19: Summer Geek Camp 2[2] in Antipolo City, Phillipines. April 18: BarCamp Rochester[3] in Rochester, New York, USA. April 19-22: Red Hat EMEA Partner Summit[4] in Malta. April 24-25: FLISOL, all over the LATAM region. April 25: Trenton Computer Festival[5] in Trenton, New Jersey, USA. April 25-26: Linux Fest Northwest[6] in Bellingham, Wasthington, USA. 1. ? http://nylug.org/ 2. ? http://fedora.bluepoint.com.ph/index.php?entry=20090204000843 3. ? http://barcamprochester.org/ 4. ? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Red_Hat_EMEA_Partner_Summit_2009 5. ? http://tcf-nj.org/ 6. ? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxFest_Northwest_%28LFNW%29_2009 -- Planet Fedora -- In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora - an aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide. http://planet.fedoraproject.org Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin --- General --- Silas Sewell wrote[1] a tutorial on using the Qpid implementation of The Advanced Message Queuing Protocol (AMQP) on Fedora using Python. Greg DeKoenigsberg provided[2] an updated on the Fourth Grade Math project for the Sugar Project. Ankur Sinha posted[3] a bunch of photos from a Linux Open Week event. Joseph Smidt discussed[4] some thoughts on Intellectual Property in "Open Source Is The Pinnacle Of The Free Market". Adam John Miller gave a talk about Fedora Infrastructure and posted[5] the key points as well as the slides. John Poelstra announced[6] Fedora 12! Not really. But he did announce that the Features process for Fedora 12 has been started and a draft schedule posted. Bryan Clark tested[7] Right-to-Left localization in Thunderbird, and now you can too! Scott Williams reviewed[8] Songbird (media player using the Mozilla core technologies) and Flock, a socially-enabled web browser based on Firefox. Eelko Berkenpies announced[9] that KDE 4.2.2 is now available in the Testing repository for Fedora 10, but also provided information on how to easily install it early if you like to live on the edge. Paul W. Frields discussed[10] some of what the Fedora Infrastructure project does, and included a link to a presentation from PyCon 2009 on the topic. James Antill posted[11] "Why trusted third party repos. will always be a bad idea". 1. ? http://www.silassewell.com/blog/2009/03/29/getting-started-with-amqp-qpid-python-fedora/ 2. ? http://gregdek.livejournal.com/49272.html 3. ? http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/2009/03/31/photos-linux-open-week/ 4. ? http://californiaquantum.wordpress.com/2009/03/31/open-source-is-the-pinnacle-of-the-free-market/ 5. ? http://pseudogen.blogspot.com/2009/04/campus-ambassador-presentation.html 6. ? http://poelcat.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/fedora-12-is-next/ 7. ? http://clarkbw.net/blog/2009/04/02/testing-rtl-in-thunderbird/ 8. ? http://vwbusguy.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/review-songbird-and-flock/ 9. ? http://blog.berkenpies.nl/2009/04/03/fedora-10-and-kde-422/ 10. ? http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1580 11. ? http://illiterat.livejournal.com/6716.html -- Developments -- In this section the people, personalities and debates on the @fedora-devel mailing list are summarized. Contributing Writer: Oisin Feeley --- Noarch with pkconfig Files --- Peter Robinson asked[1] for help building his gupnp-vala package as noarch. The complication was that it contained a pkgconfig file. Several helpful responses, such as Michael Schwendt's[2] suggested installing pkgconfig files into /usr/share/pkgconfig instead of one of the /usr/lib directories. Toshio Kuratomi thought[3] that the problem was that the package did not use the new noarch-subpackage feature but instead tried to be a regular noarch package. Ville Skytt? ran[4] the rpmlint check and confirmed that it warned exactly of this misuse of a libdir macro. In response to a subsidiary question Jesse Keating explained[5] that the noarch packages merely appeared to be present in each of the different architecture trees because they were hard-linked. 1. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00162.html 2. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00163.html 3. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00167.html 4. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2010-April/msg00194.html 5. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00164.html --- Fedora and OpenSolaris Dualboot Issue Solved --- After Ahmed Kamal reported[1] that a ZFS formatted partition seemed to be causing a Fedora 11 Beta installation failure there was a quick response. Eric Sandeen noted[2] that a patch had already been produced[3] by Dave Lehman to merely log the problem instead of raising an error. The bugzilla entry suggested[4] that the root problem was due to udev failing to recognize ZFS properly. 1. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00177.html 2. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00195.html 3. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/anaconda-devel-list/2009-April/msg00131.html 4. ? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494070 --- fallocate(2) Preferred Glibc Interface for Preallocation ? --- James Ralston noted[1] the adoption of the ext4 filesystem in Fedora 11 and suggested that in order to use its preallocation features more efficiently it would be useful to patch applications. This could help avoid the current "double write" penalty currently incurred[2] by preallocation in which the reserved space is first filled with nulls. James wondered whether there was a better interface to do this than glibc's posix_fallocate() which first attempts the allocation and then falls "[...] back to writing nulls to fill up the requested range if fallocate() fails." Eric Sandeen suggested[3] using fallocate(2) which is present in the glibc version in rawhide and provided a test program to investigate how well this would work. 1. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00110.html 2. ? http://kernelnewbies.org/Ext4#head-3a678beda18002402ba62cf0292fae849d105271 3. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00117.html --- Rawhide Report Glitches Resolved --- After a few "Rawhide Reports" were missed Alex Lancaster asked[1] what was going on. Josh Boyer answered[2] that pungi for i386 was failing. Rawhide Reports resumed[3] on 2009-04-04. 1. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00138.html 2. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00139.html 3. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00192.html --- XULRunner Committable by non-Provenpackagers --- The summary of the 2009-04-03 FESCo meeting indicated[1] that "Firefox/Thunderbird/XULRunner" are open for commits by those who do not have "provenpackager" status. Also discussed and declined for such changes were: popt; initscripts; ethtool; lvm-related packages; and hwdata. Jon Stanley also noted[2] that he was going to shoulder the burden of providing his excellent summaries of FESCo meetings. 1. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00199.html 2. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00109.html --- Provenpackager Policies --- Also discussed in the 2009-04-04 FESCo meeting were several requests for "provenpackager" and "sponsor" status. This followed[1] on the heels of work done by Patrice Dumas to codify some meanings and processes around "provenpackagers". A general concern was expressed[2] in the IRC meeting that the ability of a provenpackager to modify others' packages should not be used lightly. David Woodhouse warned that "provenpackagers who commit to other packages without even _trying_ to coordinate with the owner should expect censure" and Jon Stanley posted a helpful link[3] to a wiki entry on "Who is allowed to modify which packages". 1. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00067.html 2. ? http://bpepple.fedorapeople.org/fesco/FESCo-2009-04-03.html 3. ? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Who_is_allowed_to_modify_which_packages --- Python3K Planning --- Toshio Kuratomi reported[1] on a PyCon[2] talk on Python 3 incompatibility which he had attended. LennartRegebro's "Python 3 Compatibility"[3] talk stimulated Toshio to consider how to port older python code to python-2.6's py3 compatiblity layer. When Jochen Schmitt suggested a compatibility package Tom Callaway replied[4] that this would just be a crutch that perpetuated upstream projects unwillingness to move to Python 3. Tom preferred that Fedora developers would "[...] help port such applications to Python 3, and do so in a way that they detect the version of python at runtime and set defines appropriately. That way, we can have applications ready for Python3 before we actually make the switch." There seemed[5] to be rough agreement between Toshio Kuratomi and James Antill that some way of allowing python3 modules and an interpreter in parallel to python-2 would be necessary. Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams linked[6] to video of all the PyCon 2009 sessions. 1. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00085.html 2. ? http://us.pycon.org/ 3. ? http://us.pycon.org/media/2009/talkdata/PyCon2009/074/Python_3_Compatibility.pdf 4. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00089.html 5. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00104.html 6. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00140.html -- Translation -- This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n) Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee --- Transifex version updated --- The transifex instance for translate.fedoraproject.org has been updated to v 0.5.2[1] to resolve problems related to the submission of a few files. Earlier during the week, transifex was updated to v 0.5.1[2] and the submission problems were promptly reported by NorikoMizumoto[3]. The issues were resolved in the newer 0.5.2 release. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00012.html 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00203.html 3. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00214.html --- Translation submission for yum, ibus and Virtuzalization modules --- Translations for yum, ibus[1] and the virtualization-modules[2] would not be possible via the submission interface at translate.fedoraproject.org at present. Individual bugs have been filed to collect the translations for all languages for ibus and virtualization-modules[3][4]. For yum, at present there is no central bug to collect the translations, however the main module page[5] has the notification and template link[6] to allow translators to file a bug for their language. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00003.html 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00029.html 3. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00040.html 4. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00037.html 5. ? https://translate.fedoraproject.org/tx/projects/yum/ 6. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00067.html --- Fedora 11 Preview Release Notes Translation --- KarstenWade announced the availability of the Fedora 11 Preview Release Notes for translation[1]. The last date to send translations for Fedora 11 Preview Release Notes in April 14th 2009. However, translations can be continued until May 8th 2009 for the Final version of the Fedora 11 Release Notes. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00028.html --- Fedora Module Categorization for Translation --- As part of re-organization of translation module categories, a help page[1] is being put up[2] by Piotr Dr?g to categorize the various modules available for translation via translate.fedoraproject.org. 1. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/GUI 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00019.html --- New Members/Co-ordinators in FLP --- Mohsen Saeedi takes over co-ordinatorship of the Persian Team from Ali Majdzadeh[1]. Tamas Szots (Hungarian)[2], Jo?o Diogo Ferreira (Portuguese)[3], Behdad Pournader (Persian)[4] joined the Fedora Localization Project last week. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00199.html 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00215.html 3. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00000.html 4. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00038.html -- Infrastructure -- This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-infrastructure-list http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure Contributing Writer: Huzaifa Sidhpurwala --- Intrusion update --- Mike McGrath sent a link [1] to the list about the intrusion which was sent to the fedora-announce-list earlier.[2] Mike said that he was waiting to discuss authentication mechanisms for the fedora-servers, Since passwords+ssh keys are not the most secure authentication mechanism. Also it seems that fedora does not have the budget for any RSA token like system for authentication. There was a lot of discussion on this thread, with various people proposing different authentication mechanisms which could be used. DennisGilmore started a similar thread about Auth Mechanims[3] on which he discussed using etoken or Yubikey for authentication. It was a two factor authentication and therefore was more secure than passphrase or ssh keys. 1. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-March/msg00010.html 2. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-March/msg00277.html 3. ? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-March/msg00294.html -- Artwork -- In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei --- Meet the Lion --- After the first reactions following the inclusion of a new wallpaper concept in Rawhide for the Beta release, more members of @fedora-art endorsed the proposal made last week by Samuele Storari for a new concept and M?ir??n Duffy concluded[1]: "I have to agree with this.Would anyone be especially opposed to going with Samuele's Lion idea, seeing that both Samuele and Charlie have committed to helping out with it?". The work on the new concept advanced with a few Plymouth proposals[2] from Charles Brej and an anaconda splash [3] Samuele Storari. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00200.html 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00217.html 3. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00011.html --- Interview with the Art Team --- The Fedora Art Team reveived[1] the request to participate in an interview for the Linux Graphics Users forum[2] and a few members of the team replied: Nicu Buculei[3], Luya Tshimbalanga[4] and Maria Leandro[5] 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00194.html 2. ? http://linuxgraphicsusers.com/ 3. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00195.html 4. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00009.html 5. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00013.html --- A Mascot for Fedora? Better Not! --- Ashiqur Rahman Angel asked[1] on @fedora-art about a mascot "Is there any possibility of a new mascot based on recent versions of Fedora?". Wile some tried to design a cute character[2], Nicu Buculei noted[3] the past abandon of such an initiative "The general opinion of the larger community was that we don't need a mascot, so we didn't pursue the effort" and [[User:pfrields|Paul W. Frields] went further[4], arguing strongly against "A mascot would be brand diluting at this point, so my inclination is against having one." 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00023.html 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00028.html 3. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00026.html 4. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00027.html -- Fedora Weekly Comic -- Many of you may already follow the regular weekly Fedora comic that Nicu Buculei produces. Starting this issue, we will begin including Nicu's comic in FWN. Please give Nicu and your editors some feedback on the comic. Enjoy! This week's installment: Ctrl + Alt + Backspace[1] http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2009/04/fedora-weekly-webomic-ctrl-alt.html 1. ? http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2009/04/fedora-weekly-webomic-ctrl-alt.html -- Security Week -- In this section, we highlight the security stories from the week in Fedora. Contributing Writer: JoshBressers --- April Fools! --- Probably the biggest not story this week was the Conficker Worm not ending the world on April 1. From a security perspective, designing the worm to activate on April 1 was brilliant. The Internet is probably 90% nonsense on any given day, but April 1 pushes that dial to an 11. If you want to do something and not get the word out, do it on April 1. Had the worm actually done something interesting, would anyone believe the story? --- April Fools? --- The other biggest non April Fools story is probably OpenSSL 1.0.0 Beta 1 [1] being released on April 1. Openssl has been at version 0.9 for as long as most people can remember. It's great to see it nearing version 1.0.0 1. ? http://www.openssl.org/source/ -- Security Advisories -- In this section, we cover Security Advisories from fedora-package-announce. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-package-announce Contributing Writer: David Nalley --- Fedora 10 Security Advisories --- * seamonkey-1.1.15-3.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg01097.html * moodle-1.9.4-6.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00077.html --- Fedora 9 Security Advisories --- * seamonkey-1.1.15-3.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg01077.html * glib2-2.16.6-3.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg01113.html * moodle-1.9.4-6.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00079.html -- Virtualization -- In this section, we cover discussion on the @et-mgmnt-tools-list, @fedora-xen-list, @libvirt-list and @ovirt-devel-list of Fedora virtualization technologies. Contributing Writer: Dale Bewley --- Fedora Virtualization List --- This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-virt list. ---- Fedora Virtualization Status Report ---- Mark McLoughlin's status report[1] this week reminds us that the final development freeze[2] for Fedora 11 is coming up on April 14, 2009, and "there's a huge pile of bug-fixing and polish work to do". "If you're looking to help out, there's no better place to start than the F11VirtBlocker[3] and F11VirtTarget[4] tracker bugs." Read on for more coverage of virtualization developments in the past week. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-April/msg00006.html 2. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/DevelFreezePolicy 3. ? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F11VirtBlocker&hide_resolved=1 4. ? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F11VirtTarget&hide_resolved=1 ---- Using kvm-autotest to test Fedora KVM ---- Mark McLoughlin explained[1] "upstream KVM developers are working hard on a suite of regression tests for KVM. It would be hugely helpful if people could run kvm-autotest[2] on their own machines to try and catch as many KVM issues as possible." Mark also provided a howto[3]. 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-April/msg00007.html 2. ? http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/KVM-Autotest 3. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Testing_KVM_with_kvm_autotest --- Fedora Xen List --- This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-xen list. ---- Experimental Dom0 Kernel Update ---- Michael Young announced[1] his repository[2] "is up to kernel 2.6.29-1.2.18.fc11. This one is based on push2/xen/dom0/master[3] rather than xen/dom0/hackery which should be closer to what is proposed for the 2.6.30 merge. It also has CONFIG_HIGHPTE=n (for x86), but my attempts to add squashfs 3 in addition to squashfs 4 didn't work as it seems you can't build both." 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-March/msg00084.html 2. ? http://fedorapeople.org/~myoung/dom0/ 3. ? http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/jeremy/xen.git;a=summary --- Libvirt List --- This section contains the discussion happening on the libvir-list. -- New Release libvirt 0.6.2 Daniel Veillard announced[1] a new image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt release, version 0.6.2. "This is mostly a bug fix release, though it also includes a few new features and some improvements:" New features: * support SASL auth for VNC server (Daniel Berrange) * memory ballooning in QEMU (Daniel Berrange) * SCSI HBA storage pool support (Dave Allan) * PCI passthrough in Xen driver (Daniel Berrange) Improvements: * get CPU usage info for LXC (Ryota Ozaki) * fix domain RNG to add ac97 and tests (Pritesh Kothari) * OpenVZ support for non-template filesystem root (Florian Vichot) * improve arch capabilities generation (Daniel Berrange) * modularization of spec file (Ryota Ozaki) * better error reports in SEXPR generation (Daniel Berrange) * support for vifname parameter in VIF config (Daniel Berrange) * localtime handling for new xen (Daniel Berrange) * error reporting/ verification of security labels (Dan Walsh) * add --console arg for create and start virsh commands (Daniel Berrange) * refresh volume alloc/capacity when dumping XML (Cole Robinson) This release comes one month after the release of 0.6.1[2]. Daniel Veillard referred[3] to the scheduling conversation last week (FWN#169[4]) when reitterating the plan for a feature freeze around April 17th and a release of 0.6.3 around April 24th. "Plannned so far for 0.6.3 are: * API for physical host interface * the VirtualBox driver if in shape and in time but that's not an exhaustive list and there is a couple of drivers submitted I need to look at (OpenNebula for example)." 1. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-April/msg00084.html 2. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue166#New_Release_libvirt_0.6.1 3. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-April/msg00085.html 4. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue169#More_Formal_libvirt_Release_Scheduling ---- First Release netcf 0.0.1 ---- Less that 3 months since compsing the RFC(FWN#159[1]) David Lutterkort announced[2], the release of image:Echo-package-16px.pngnetcf[3] 0.0.1. This is "the initial release of a library for managing network configuration in a platform agnostic manner. If I were into code names, this would be the 'what have you been waiting for' release." "Netcf does its work by directly modifying the 'native' configuration files of the host it is running on; this avoids a whole class of problems caused by similar approaches that do network configuration behind the back of the native mechanisms. The API allows listing of configured interfaces, defining the configuration of an interface, retrieving the same (regardless of whether the interface was initially configured with netcf or not), and bringing interfaces up and down. This functionality is needed both by image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt and image:Echo-package-16px.pngNetworkManager, so it seemed only logical to move their common needs into a separate library." Laine Stump is already working on patches[4] to add the netcf calls in the libvirt API. Read the announcement for more information such as the new mailing list for netcf development discussion and where to find the test builds for Fedora 10. 1. ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue159#Configuring_Host_Interfaces_RFC 2. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-April/msg00068.html 3. ? http://fedorahosted.org/netcf/ 4. ? http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-April/msg00050.html === end FWN 170 === Pascal Calarco, Fedora Ambassador, Indiana, USA https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pcalarco From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 6 14:53:50 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:23:50 +0530 Subject: Fedora Classroom - April 2009 Message-ID: <49DA177E.7020004@fedoraproject.org> Hi Fedora Classroom has been successfully completed for April 2009 with five IRC sessions * Setting up a Virtual Routing Environment using Fedora and User Mode Linux - Balaji Gurudass * Introduction to busybox and QEMU on Fedora - Balaji Gurudass * Introduction to Netlink Sockets, What are they? - Balaji Gurudass * Building RPM packages - Christoph Wickert * Fedora Networking Basics - Kevin Fenzi You can find the IRC logs for all the sessions at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom Thank you for all the participants, speakers and organizers. See you, next month. Rahul From jkeating at redhat.com Tue Apr 7 21:11:55 2009 From: jkeating at redhat.com (Jesse Keating) Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:11:55 -0700 Subject: Re-issued isos for Beta Message-ID: <1239138715.3767.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> Due to some staging issues, I've had to re-issue a few of the isos for Fedora 11 Beta. The F11-Beta-x86_64-Live-KDE.iso has been re-issued both in torrent and on the mirrors. This was accidentally composed with 32bit packages instead of 64bit packages. The Source isos have been re-issued on torrent only. An older set were first issued there. The CHECKSUM on the mirrors was wrong as well for these isos and has been updated. No other changes are being made at this time. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The Beta release notes ( https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Beta_release_notes ) still mostly apply. Thanks and happy testing! -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom? is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Mon Apr 13 18:40:51 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:40:51 -0400 Subject: Fedora Weekly News #171 Message-ID: <1239648051.24858.1310284573@webmail.messagingengine.com> Fedora Weekly News Issue 171 Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 171 for the week ending April 12th, 2009. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue171 Our latest issue includes important Announcements about Fedora 11 and freeze statuses. Ambassadors celebrates the way "Italians Fete Document Freedom Day" and "LinuxFest Northwest Ramps Up". Developments relays some fraught conversations about "Emacs, Glibc, Malloc and i586" and cautions that "Mono Breakage on PPC May Cause Reversion". Translations keys us in to the "Fedora 11 Release Notes Discussion". Artwork provides insight into "Finishing the Artwork for Fedora 11". Virtualization reports on the "Virtualization Technology Preview Repo." If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[1]. We welcome reader feedback: fedora-news-list at redhat.com 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Oisin Feeley, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala 1.1 Announcements 1.1.1 Fedora 11 1.1.2 FUDCon Berlin 2009 1.1.3 Upcoming Events 1.2 Ambassadors 1.2.1 Italians Fete Document Freedom Day 1.2.2 LinuxFest Northwest Ramps Up 1.2.3 Got Ambassador News? 1.3 Developments 1.3.1 Emacs, Glibc, Malloc and i586 1.3.2 Wireless Regulatory Domain Automatically Determined 1.3.3 Moonlight Still Banned in Fedora 1.3.4 Mono Breakage on PPC May Cause Reversion 1.3.5 YUM Downgrade Feature Now in Rawhide 1.3.6 Multiple Package Ownership of Directories 1.3.7 Zap DontZap 1.4 Translation 1.4.1 Fedora 11 Release Notes Discussion 1.4.2 New Members/Co-ordinators in FLP 1.5 Artwork 1.5.1 Finishing the Artwork for Fedora 11 1.5.2 Interview with the Art Team 1.6 Virtualization 1.6.1 Fedora Virtualization List 1.6.1.1 Guest Configuration with augeas and libguestfs 1.6.1.2 Virtual Machine Backup virt-backup 1.6.1.3 Virtualization Technology Preview Repo 1.6.1.4 Fedora Virtualization Status Report 1.6.2 Libvirt List 1.6.2.1 libvirt-TCK Technology Compatibility Kit == Announcements == In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events Contributing Writer: Max Spevack === Fedora 11 === Jesse Keating[1] made two announcements regarding Fedora 11. First[2], the F11-Beta-x86_64-Live-KDE.iso was re-issued on bittorrent as well as to the mirors. The image was "accidentally composed with 32bit packages instead of 64bit packages". Furthermore, the Source ISOs were re-issued on torrent only, where "an older set were first issued there. The CHECKSUM on the mirrors was wrong as well for these isos and has been updated." Next[3], Fedora 11 Snapshot 1 was released to the torrent site, and it provides "the first and final snapshot before our final devel freeze". Jesse reminded everyone that "lots of work has gone into the storage code of Anaconda since the Beta release, please do re-test with these images if you had difficulty installing the Beta". The final development freeze[4] for Fedora 11 is on Tuesday April 14th. John Poelstra[5] reminded the community "that all features and their associated feature pages must be at 100% completion by this date", and he listed the features that do not meet this criteria, which includes several of the more prominent features that are scheduled for the release. If you are trying to get a feature in to Fedora 11, please make sure you have completed all necessary steps. 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JesseKeating 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-April/msg00003.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-April/msg00004.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-April/msg00001.html 5. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JohnPoelstra === FUDCon Berlin 2009 === Max Spevack[1] reminded[2] the community about FUDCon Berlin 2009[3], including registration[4], lodging[5], and the speaking schedule[6]. 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MaxSpevack 2. http://spevack.livejournal.com/78732.html 3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009 4. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009_attendees 5. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009_lodging 6. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_Berlin_and_LinuxTag_2009_talks === Upcoming Events === April 15: NYLUG[1] in New York, New York, USA. April 17-19: Summer Geek Camp 2[2] in Antipolo City, Phillipines. April 18: BarCamp Rochester[3] in Rochester, New York, USA. April 19-22: Red Hat EMEA Partner Summit[4] in Malta. April 24-25: FLISOL, all over the LATAM region. April 25: Trenton Computer Festival[5] in Trenton, New Jersey, USA. April 25-26: Linux Fest Northwest[6] in Bellingham, Wasthington, USA. 1. http://nylug.org/ 2. http://fedora.bluepoint.com.ph/index.php?entry=20090204000843 3. http://barcamprochester.org/ 4. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Red_Hat_EMEA_Partner_Summit_2009 5. http://tcf-nj.org/ 6. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxFest_Northwest_%28LFNW%29_2009 == Ambassadors == In this section, we cover Fedora Ambassadors Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors Contributing Writer: Larry Cafiero === Italians Fete Document Freedom Day === "Document Freedom Day," an event promoted by the Free Software Foundation, was held March 25 and aimed is to spread free documents formats and the Free Software culture. Luca Foppiano reports about his attendance at the event, which was held in Opera (near Milano, where in 2008 was organized "Liberamente") in his blog[1]. Luca spoke at the event about the core values of the Fedora project, whose aim is to spread the meaning of the 4 foundations in general, and Fedora?s policies around codecs and firmwares in particular - thus covering a wider subject matter, not only documents. === LinuxFest Northwest Ramps Up === A Fedora Activity Day and three Fedora speakers highlight the lineup for the 10th annual LinuxFest Northwest[2] in Bellingham, Wash., USA, on April 25-26. Held on the campus of Bellingham Technical College, the two-day event is free and open to the public. Clint Savage will be hosting a session on Fedora Remix, Karsten Wade will talk on the topic "Participate or Die," Jesse Keating will give those at LFNW a sneak peek at Fedora 11 and what to expect later next month, and Larry Cafiero will give a Fedora 101 talk prior to the Fedora Activity Day, which takes place all day Saturday. Prior to LFNW, Karsten Wade and Larry Cafiero are scheduled to address classes at Oregon State University in Corvallis, Ore., on behalf of Fedora on Thursday, April 23. The pair will also meet with the Linux Users Group on campus that evening. Bellingham is just south of the Canadian border in northwestern Washington, and if you find yourself in the neighborhood, feel free to drop by. 1. http://blog.foppiano.org/2009/03/30/document-freedom-day/ 2. http://www.lfnw.org Got Ambassador News? Any Ambassador news tips from around the Fedora community can be submitted to me by e-mailing lcafiero-AT-fedoraproject-DOT-org and I'd be glad to put it in this weekly report. == Developments == In this section the people, personalities and debates on the @fedora-devel mailing list are summarized. Contributing Writer: Oisin Feeley === Emacs, Glibc, Malloc and i586 === As the pressure to stick to the Fedora 11 release schedule built up some glitches arising in part from the decision to support i586 instead of i686 (see FWN#162[1]) led to tense words. Reports trickled in of problems with emacs in rawhide. Per Bothner reported[2] both that emacs-23.0.91 threw an "Invalid regex: Unmatched ( or \\(" and that emacs-23-0.92 was responding excruciatingly slowly. Ulrich Drepper speculated[3] to that the regexp problem was due to some changes to malloc in glibc. A bugzilla report by Andy Wingo expanded[4] on the problem and drew comments suggesting that rpm and mysql were also failing to due glibc changes. Jakub Jelinek thought they were different problems with the emacs errors being due to malloc_{get|set}_state. TomLane asked[5] what was going on with glibc reverting to an earlier version in rawhide. Jesse Keating responded[6] that glibc for the i586 architecture was broken for all versions after beta. After Panu Matilainen commented that glibc.i586 was so broken that rpm could not even read its own configurations Ulrich Drepper said[7]: "If you want to complain then to the idiots who made the decision to go with .i586 instead of .i686 for x86 binaries. This is exactly the kind of problem I've been warning about all along. Using the i586 target stresses code paths (in this case in gcc) which are hardly ever used since nobody cares for this target in general." Panu disavowed any intent to complain. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue162#Fedora_11_Will_Support_i586_Instruction_Set 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-April/msg00221.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-April/msg00225.html 4. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494631 5. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00572.html 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00573.html 7. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00600.html === Wireless Regulatory Domain Automatically Determined === John W. Linville posted[1] an update to an old(ish) thread. He reported that Fedora 11 now has udev rules in place to set wireless regulatory domains based on the configured timezone. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00566.html === Moonlight Still Banned in Fedora === The 2009-04-08 "Rawhide Report"[1] caused some excitement when it seemed[2] that moonlight[3][4][5][6][7] might have been enabled. It turned out[8] that this was simply due to a confusion between a mono API named "moonlight" and the actual moonlight itself. All that had actually happened[9] was that Fedora Legal okayed the use of the mono compiler switch "moonlight" in order to facilitate RPMFusion's request. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00426.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00427.html 3. Moonlight is an implementation of Microsoft's "Silverlight" which is a virtual machine and framework for creating Rich Internet Applications, roughly competing in the same space as Adobe's Flex and Mozilla's Prism. It is considered to risky to include in Fedora due to legal worries raised by the Microsoft-Novell covenant. 4. http://mono-project.com/Moonlight 5. http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/ 6. http://labs.mozilla.com/projects/prism/ 7. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems#Moonlight 8. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00500.html 9. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492048 === Mono Breakage on PPC May Cause Reversion === Another mono issue discussed[1] with reference to the 2009-04-08 Rawhide Report suggests that due to breakage on the ppc architecture it may be necessary to untag the latest mono package. Objections that the disabling of PPC architecture support on the mono package was happening too close to the Fedora 11 final freeze prompted[2] David Nielsen to make the rejoinder that no help had been given to the Mono SIG despite their reporting a problem. Jesse Keating announced[3] that in the absence of a fix before the final freeze mono would simply be downgraded: "[t]his kind of version change shouldn't really be made after beta anyway." David Nielsen argued[4] that the changes had been made well before the beta. Bill Nottingham thrust[5] the responsibility back on him. Alex Lancaster made[6] a similar point more diplomatically. Mary Ellen Foster requested, as a mono-dependent maintainer, that concrete actions be recommended. Jesse Keating and Toshio Kuratomi asked[7] that all such did _not_ set "ExcludeArch: ppc" and rebuild as this would cause massive churn on a large number of packages. Instead a process to track down the failures and fix them with a fallback plan to revert to a mono release-candidate was proposed by Toshio. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00457.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00471.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00483.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00501.html 5. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00515.html 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00524.html 7. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00568.html === YUM Downgrade Feature Now in Rawhide === James Antill posted[1] that it is now possible to downgrade a package using yum downgrade He suggested: "[...]this will be most useful for rawhide users when installing test packages from koji static repos. etc. ... because then an older version will still be available in rawhide. Whereas if you upgrade to what is in rawhide there is nothing older available to downgrade to." 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00469.html === Multiple Package Ownership of Directories === A query posed[1] by Rahul Sundaram concerned whether it was appropriate for multiple packages to claim ownership of a directory. Michael Schwendt and Christoph Wickert were[2] clear that the packages Rahul mentioned should not own the directory because they were part of a dependency chain which led up to their ancestor package hicolor-icon-theme. Contrary advice led[3] to some sarcasm from Christoph Wickert about Red Hat employees not being familiar with Fedora packaging guidelines and it worried[4] Peter Lemenkov, who believed that Red Hat employees all had "provenpackager" status (see FWN#170[5]). Jason L. Tibbitts III corrected[6] this latter assertion. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00425.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00544.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00546.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00591.html 5. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue170#Provenpackager_Policies 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00595.html === Zap DontZap === Paul Wouters reported[1] that he had needed to ssh into his machine to fix an X session problem and would like to revert "[...] to the old behavior of having ctrl-alt-backspace kill the current X session." See FWN#169[2] for earlier discussion. Anders Rayner-Karlsson explained that dual-head setup in Fedora 10 was as simple as: xrandr --output LVDS --auto --output VGA --auto --above LVDS to which Michael Cronenworth responded[3] that this would need to be done in a start-up script as there was also now no xorg.conf by default. Jesse Keating suggested using the system-config-display tool instead as this would obviate the need for an xorg.conf. Adam Jackson cautioned[4] that nVidia's proprietary drivers might not export RANDR-1.2 yet and thus the latter might not work. Further discussions about whether xorg.conf was needed for side-by-side wide virtual desktops suggested[5] that Intel chipsets while currently enforcing a 2048 pixel limit may be[6] capable of supporting up to 4096 pixels on Intel 915 or Intel 945 in the near future. Dissent and discussion about Fedora's decision to follow the upstream rumbled on. Kevin Kofler suggested[7] that "mailing list consensus" was not a good process by which to make such decisions as that taken by Xorg. Dave Airlie seemed[8] as though he had had enough of personal attacks on him, but was also able to joke about it. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00363.html 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue169#Emacs_Cabal_Disables_Xorg_Ctrl-Alt-Backspace 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00371.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00377.html 5. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00430.html 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00450.html 7. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00617.html 8. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00635.html == Translation == This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n) Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee === Fedora 11 Release Notes Discussion === After the announcement last week[1] about the availability of the Fedora 11 Preview Release Notes for translation, a number of translators have put forward their concerns about the difficulty in translating these notes due to vast coverage of content and complicated technical text[2]. As a solution to this, it has been suggested that the Release Notes be restricted to information that is important to general users and useful to migration from on release to another. The additional information about package improvements etc. may be made part of the SIG pages on the wiki.[3] One of the writers Ruediger Landmann, has put forward the link to the draft version of Fedora 11 Installation Guide for similar feedback.[4] At present, some of the teams have chosen to either translate the core information, divide the translation work amongst multiple translators or to drop translation for this release. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00028.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00089.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00090.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00091.html === New Members/Co-ordinators in FLP === David Leary[1] has joined the French translation team last week. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00071.html == Artwork == In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei === Finishing the Artwork for Fedora 11 === John Poelstra asked [1] on @fedora-art about the lesson learned and the need for a special feedback period embedded in future release cycles "Maybe we should build a feedback period into the Fedora 12 schedule?" and the status of the remaining work for Fedora 11 "It is also important to note that we are targeting the completion of final artwork and packaging a little less than two weeks from now on 2009-04-16 so that it can all be in the Preview Release and have two weeks to shake out anything that needs final fixing before GA", with Paul W. Frields reinforcing[2] the question "How can we improve the schedule of dates for Artwork deliverables, so that they're more realistic or constructive?" In reply, Nicu Buculei pleaded[3] for early, on-going feedback "I don't think we need a feedback period, we need to get some graphics (concepts) as soon as possible to get feedback from the early stages. Is not useful if one week before the freeze we learn that everything is not good enough, we have to scrap it and restart." Appreciating the reminder[4] "Thank you for this reminder and for helping keep us on track", M?ir??n Duffy outlined a list of the remaining tasks: Wallpaper Design, Plymouth Splash, GNOME splash, KDE splash, full screen splash for syslinux, grub splash. gnome screensaver lock dialog, anaconda square splash, firstboot vertical header, kdm, wallpaper extras and she set a deadline[5] on the wallpaper polishing "I'm going to block off Thursday as the day to dive in and polish stuff off". Nicu Buculei and Martin Sourada took one of the points, the wallpaper extras, further[6][7] and concluded "freeze is irrelevant here. It's highly probable it won't be on any of the official spins, so having the package released at the same day as GA is IMHO fine" Charles Brej advanced a Plymouth animation proposal[8] "here is a possible progress bar in the style of the theme", followed by another minimalist proposal[9] from Mike Langlie, acclaimed by some[10][11] but also criticised by its use of proprietary tools under proprietary operating systems (Photoshop on OS X)[12]. A third mock-up[13] from Cătălin Feştilă is dismissed by Nicu Buculei for the use of English-only text " Fedora is an operating system for the entire world, we can't go with an English-only text. Due to localization concerns, is wise to avoid any texts rendered as graphics." Also in preparation for the upcoming Preview Release and the General Release, Paolo Leoni posted[14] a release countdown banner, which evolved quickly with the feedback received into a complete, polished tarball[15], ready to run on the website. Susmit Shannigrahi advanced a DVD label concept[16], criticised by Luya Tshimbalanga for the use of an obsolete theme[17] "Note that artwork used for Fedora 11 Beta is not final" an Nicu Buculei for excessive use of colors[18] "to keep the printing cost down ideally the label will use only a few colors". Apparently, according to Susmit, in his country the price is not affected by the number of colors used[19] "Well, here in India, they don't charge by color. They charge at a flat rate of 11INR(22 cents) each for bulk production." 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00044.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00068.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00075.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00080.html 5. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00081.html 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00087.html 7. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00096.html 8. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00092.html 9. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00093.html 10. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00094.html 11. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00101.html 12. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00110.html 13. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00113.html 14. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00047.html 15. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00095.html 16. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00052.html 17. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00054.html 18. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00055.html 19. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00060.html === Interview with the Art Team === In the previous edition of the Fedora Weekly News we reported about an interview with the Fedora Art Team being conducted for the Linux Graphics Users forum[1], now Nicu Buculei reported[2] on at fedora-art about the interview going live[3]. 1. http://linuxgraphicsusers.com/ 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00111.html 3. http://linuxgraphicsusers.com/index.php?topic=705.msg5198 == Virtualization == In this section, we cover discussion on the @et-mgmnt-tools-list, @fedora-xen-list, and @libvirt-list of Fedora virtualization technologies. Contributing Writer: Dale Bewley === Fedora Virtualization List === This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-virt list. ==== Guest Configuration with augeas and libguestfs ==== After blogging[1] just last week that "Nothing much is coded at the moment", the prolific Richard Jones announced[2] he has added support to image:Echo-package-16px.pngaugeas for his latest project, libguestfs[3]. libguestfs "lets you examine and modify virtual machine disk images, so you can perform sysadmin tasks on virtual machines without needing to bring them up or log into them." "Augeas is a configuration editing tool. It parses configuration files in their native formats and transforms them into a tree. Configuration changes are made by manipulating this tree and saving it back into native config files."[4] Now libguestfs "supports Augeas, so you can use Augeas to edit configuration files within the virtual machine." Richard will be working on creating a Fedora RPM of libguestfs this week. 1. http://rwmj.wordpress.com/2009/04/01/libguestfs-access-and-modify-virtual-machine-disk-images/ 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-April/msg00045.html 3. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/libguestfs/ 4. http://augeas.net/ ==== Virtual Machine Backup virt-backup ==== The discussion of libguestfs led Jan ONDREJ to reveal[1] a tool in development, virt-backup[2]. This script can be used to * Make online backups, when virtual server is running. * Transfer partitions over the network while the virtual server is off. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-April/msg00068.html 2. http://www.salstar.sk/pub/temp/virt-backup ==== Virtualization Technology Preview Repo ==== Daniel Berrange followed up the recent release scheduling conversation (FWN#169 [1]) with a "braindump"[2]. "The obvious problem with what we do for image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt at the moment, is that we are introducing major new features into the stable release stream". Adding "I think it would be desirable to get the stable Fedora releases onto a pretty strong bugfix only policy..." Daniel suggested "a 'virt-preview' YUM repository for the most recent stable stream (ie F10, but not F9)" as a way to achieve this "bugfix only policy", and allow users access development versions of libvirt "without having to include & debug the rest of rawhide". Daniel summaried the "braindump". "So in summary": * All new upstream releases built in rawhide * New upstream releases also built in stable preview branch if possible * Only bugfixes built in stable updates/updates-testing branch * In exceptional circumstances, rebase for preview branch can be built to updates/updates-testing after alot of positive testing "This would": * Ensure users of stable Fedora release have high confidence in quality of the updates/updates-testing stream * Allow users to trivially test new upstream rebases while staying on the stable distro stream * Improve testing coverage of major new rawhide features without using the stable release stream users as guinea pigs Mark McLoughlin thought[3] "this would be hugely useful to people interested in the latest virt bits, but without a testing machine for running rawhide." And even proposed a name for the proposed repository, "How about 'virt-hide' ? :)". Mark also reverenced these FESCo approved guidelines[4] relevant to package maintainers who wish to update a package on an already-released branch. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue169#More_Formal_libvirt_Release_Scheduling 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-April/msg00008.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-April/msg00010.html 4. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Package_update_guidelines ==== Fedora Virtualization Status Report ==== Mark McLoughlin reminds[1] us "It's only a matter of days until the F11 tree freezes and the list of bugs isn't getting any shorter!" Read on for more coverage of virtualization developments in the past week. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-April/msg00055.html === Libvirt List === This section contains the discussion happening on the libvir-list. ==== libvirt-TCK Technology Compatibility Kit ==== In yet another "braindump" this week, Daniel Berrange penned[1] "a very long email" purporting to be a "short guide" to the new image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt "Technology Compatibility Kit". libvirt provides a hypervisor or emulator neutral platform for manipulating virtual machine resources. This model leverages "drivers"[2] for each emulator or backend system. The driver acts as a translator, converting libvirt API calls to the native API. For example, there are drivers for Xen, QEMU KVM, LXC, OpenVZ, User Mode Linux, and storage subsystems. "The libvirt TCK provides a framework for performing testing of the integration between libvirt drivers, the underlying virt hypervisor technology, related operating system services and system configuration. The idea (and name) is motivated by the Java TCK" "In particular the libvirt TCK is intended to address the following scenarios * Validate that a new libvirt driver is in compliance with the (possibly undocumented!) driver API semantics * Validate that an update to an existing driver does not change the API semantics in a non-compliant manner * Validate that a new hypervisor release is still providing compatability with the corresponding libvirt driver usage * Validate that an OS distro deployment consisting of a hypervisor and libvirt release is configured correctly Thus the libvirt TCK will allow developers, administrators and users to determine the level of compatability of their platform, and evaluate whether it will meet their needs, and get awareness of any regressions that may have occurred since a previous test run." The TCK will utilize Perl's testing frameworks and the libvirt Perl binding image:Echo-package-16px.pngperl-Sys-Virt (FWN#169[3]). Daniel created "4 simple proof of concept scripts" which have already "highlighted some horrible problems" in remote, QEMU, and Xen drivers. There are even some results "in pretty HTML format": * http://berrange.fedorapeople.org/libvirt-tck/results/libvirt-tck-rhel-5.html * http://berrange.fedorapeople.org/libvirt-tck/results/libvirt-tck-f10-broken.html * http://berrange.fedorapeople.org/libvirt-tck/results/libvirt-tck-f10-fixed.html Daniel goes on to describe how to try out the test suite, talk about what's still left todo, describe how TCK is expected to be used, and provide an introduction to writing tests. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-April/msg00176.html 2. http://libvirt.org/drivers.html 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue169#New_Release_perl-Sys-Virt_0.2.0 -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Apr 15 14:56:20 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:56:20 +0200 (CEST) Subject: FUDCon Berlin 2009 & LinuxTag 2009 Message-ID: We're about 2 months away from FUDCon Berlin and LinuxTag, and it's time to give the community a few reminders and details. LinuxTag --> June 24 - 27 FUDCon Berlin --> June 26 - 28 Both events are being held in the same location, and FUDCon is OPEN TO EVERYONE, regardless of whether or not you are a Fedora user or contributor. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009 == ATTENDING FUDCON == Please pre-register for the event. This is the only way to guarantee free entry (because a LinuxTag ticket is required, and we will have enough for all pre-registered) as well as a FUDCon tshirt. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009_attendees Please register for the hotel, if you need it. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009_lodging Travel from Tegel airport to the hotel is trivial, as is travel from the hotel to Messe Berlin, where FUDCon and LinuxTag is being held. == THE FUDCON SCHEDULE == Tuesday, June 23 - Thursday, June 25 Fedora will be at LinuxTag, which is at the same location as FUDCon. For more information, see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxTag2009 Most FUDCon attendees will want to arrive on Thursday at the latest, since FUDCon starts on Friday morning. Friday 26 June * Normal day of LinuxTag. * Day 1 of FUDCon Berlin 2009, starting precisely at 10:00 AM. * Fedora Social Event at En Passant in Sevignyplatz Saturday 27 June * Final day of LinuxTag. * Day 2 of FUDCon Berlin 2009, starting precisely at 10:00 AM. Sunday 28 June * Day 3 of FUDCon Berlin 2009, starting precisely at 10:00 AM. The detailed schedule for each day of FUDCon is here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_Berlin_and_LinuxTag_2009_talks We also need people to continue to sign up for BarCamp and hackfest sessions, here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009#BarCamp_and_Hackfests Thanks, Max From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Mon Apr 20 15:41:55 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:41:55 -0400 Subject: Fedora Weekly News #172 Message-ID: <1240242115.21402.1311391271@webmail.messagingengine.com> Fedora Weekly News Issue 172 Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 172 for the week ending April 19th, 2009. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue172 This week Announcements rubs its hands with glee over the "Fedora 11" freeze. Similarly Artwork enthuses about "Fedora 11 Landing" with great Leonidas themes including a surprise for wide-screen setups. Developments gushes about "Presto and DeltaRPM Status" and SecurityWeek asks the interesting question "Who in the Linux World Would be Responsible for a Worm?". SecurityAdvisories faithfully lists updates that might just help avoid that worm. With a red face we draw your attention with an Erratum to last week's missing QualityAssurance beat. This week's QualityAssurance beat "Test Days" advertizes the upcoming minimal installation testing and reports in "Weekly meetings" that PulseAudio issues with snd-intel-hda and snd-intel8x0 are resolved. Translation reports on the availability of a bulky "Fedora 11 Installation Guide Ready for Translation". The FedoraWeeklyWebcomic joins us again and Ambassadors shares a neat list of LinuxFestNorthWest talks by Fedora folk. If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[1]. We welcome reader feedback: fedora-news-list at redhat.com 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Oisin Feeley, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala Contents 1.1 Erratum: Missing QualityAssurance Beat in FWN#171 1.2 Announcements 1.2.1 Fedora 11 1.2.2 FUDCon Berlin 2009 1.2.3 Upcoming Events 1.3 QualityAssurance 1.3.1 Test Days 1.3.2 Weekly meetings 1.4 Developments 1.4.1 Frozen for Fedora 11. Some Packages Still Not Built dist-f11 1.4.2 Xorg Hacking Solves DontZap 1.4.3 Minesweeper Certified Solitaire Professionals Satisfied with DVD 1.4.4 Presto and DeltaRPM Status 1.4.5 Browser Plugins May Strip SELinux Protections 1.4.6 Getting Rid of /usr for Fedora 12 ? 1.5 Translation 1.5.1 Fedora 11 Installation Guide Ready for Translation 1.5.2 New Members in FLP 1.6 Artwork 1.6.1 Fedora 11 Landing 1.7 Fedora Weekly Webcomic 1.8 Security Week 1.8.1 Malicious Activity Grows in 2008 1.8.2 Who in the Linux World Would be Responsible for a Worm ? 1.9 Security Advisories 1.9.1 Fedora 10 Security Advisories 1.9.2 Fedora 9 Security Advisories 1.10 Ambassadors 1.10.1 LinuxFest Northwest Starts Saturday 1.10.2 Got Ambassador News? == Erratum: Missing QualityAssurance Beat in FWN#171 == Last week (FWN#171) your painstaking QualityAssurance correspondent, Adam Williamson, wrote a very readable account of the activity around the UEFI BIOS replacement, Graphics-card Metrics and a lot more. Somehow we omitted to include this in the plaintext issue. With apologies to Adam and to our readers we suggest you take a look at our archived web version[1]. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue171#QualityAssurance == Announcements == In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events Contributing Writer: Max Spevack === Fedora 11 === We're getting very close to the Fedora 11 release, and excitement is building. Jesse Keating[1] announced[2] that we are now frozen for Fedora 11. "We've reached the final freeze, as well as mass branched. From this point on, builds from F-11/ will go to dist-f11-updates-candidate and builds from devel/ will go to dist-f12. dist-f11 itself is locked." John Poelstra[3] gave a final reminder[4] to feature owners whose features are not at 100%. "Feature freeze has past and the following feature pages still need updates. Some have not been updated for several months. All need to be at 100% completion and their content set to reflect that." 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JesseKeating 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-April/msg00006.html 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JohnPoelstra 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-April/msg00007.html === FUDCon Berlin 2009 === Max Spevack[1] reminded[2] the community about FUDCon Berlin 2009[3], including registration[4], lodging[5], and the speaking schedule[6]. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MaxSpevack 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-April/msg00006.html 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009 4. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009_attendees 5. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009_lodging 6. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_Berlin_and_LinuxTag_2009_talks === Upcoming Events === April 17-19: Summer Geek Camp 2[1] in Antipolo City, Phillipines. April 18: BarCamp Rochester[2] in Rochester, New York, USA. April 19-22: Red Hat EMEA Partner Summit[3] in Malta. April 24-25: FLISOL, all over the LATAM region. April 25: Trenton Computer Festival[4] in Trenton, New Jersey, USA. April 25-26: Linux Fest Northwest[5] in Bellingham, Wasthington, USA. April 27: FOSS Lightning Talks[6] in Stockholm, Sweden. May 2: Introduction to FOSS, Fedora workshop in Pradesh, India. May 4-8: VI Foro Mundial de Conocimiento Libre[7] in M?rida, Venezuela. 1. http://fedora.bluepoint.com.ph/index.php?entry=20090204000843 2. http://barcamprochester.org/ 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Red_Hat_EMEA_Partner_Summit_2009 4. http://tcf-nj.org/ 5. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxFest_Northwest_%28LFNW%29_2009 6. http://natverk.dfs.se/node/13922 7. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/FMCL/VI-FMCL == QualityAssurance == In this section, we cover the activities of the QA team[1]. Contributing Writer: Adam Williamson 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA === Test Days === This week saw two Test Days. The first[1] was a follow-up on the Fedora 11 rewrite of Anaconda's storage device code[2]. The second[3] was on the Presto plugin for yum, which enables the use of deltarpms for updates. The Anaconda test day verified that many issues from the earlier test day had been resolved and turned up several new bugs, many of which have been fixed already. The Presto test day was surprisingly uneventful: there was good participation but few bugs were discovered, the system worked well and reliably for almost every test. Next week's Test Day[4] will be on the minimal platform feature[5], support for very small minimal installations. This is another test day which will require installation, so if you are interested in taking part, please make sure to have a spare system or partition on which you can install a Rawhide system. Of course, this week it only needs to be small! 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:AnacondaStorageRewrite_2009-04-14 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/AnacondaStorageRewrite 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:Presto_2009-04-16 4. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-04-21 5. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MinimalPlatform === Weekly meetings === The QA group weekly meeting[1] was held on 2009-04-15. The full log is available[2]. The group briefly discussed James Laska's plan to improve the customization possibilities for Test Day live CDs. James promised to send a mail to the list regarding his ideas here. Adam Williamson reported that he had successfully had a post on the Rawhide nss / x86-64 issue added to the rawhidewatch blog[3], run by Warren Togami. Adam Williamson reported on his progress in evaluating whether important bugs reported in the X driver Test Days are fully repesented on the Fedora 11 release blocker bugs list. The nouveau maintainer, Ben Skeggs, has already reviewed all nouveau bugs. Review of intel and radeon bugs in in process together with the regular triagers for these components, Matej Cepl and Francois Cami. Will Woods provided an update on his progress in checking on PulseAudio's readiness for a Fedora 11 release. He noted that some significant problems remained in two ALSA drivers - snd-intel-hda and snd-intel8x0 - which cause problems in PulseAudio. These drivers are used by a very large amount of current sound hardware. However, patches to fix several problematic cases have been added to the Rawhide kernel recently, and the remaining problems can be worked around if fixes are not integrated prior to release time, so it should be possible to release Fedora 11 with a fairly reliable PulseAudio. The group discussed whether it would make sense to schedule a Test Day for Intel audio chipsets, but concluded it was too close to release time and the Test Day schedule was already too busy to make it practical. The Bugzappers group weekly meeting[4] was held on 2009-04-14. The full log is available[5]. The meeting opened with a call for the Bugzappers group to be proactive in adding serious bugs to the Fedora 11 Blocker and Target bug lists. Several group members expressed the concern that they would not be able accurately to identify which bugs should be added to the list, so Adam Williamson and James Laska promised to discuss the issue at the next QA meeting and see if there was a way to provide firmer policies and guidance in future. The group agreed to delegate the creation and organization of a Wiki area covering SOPs (Standard Operating Procedures) to John Poelstra. The discussion about how long to wait before closing NEEDINFO bugs was resolved by a proposal from John Poelstra: whether to close after 30 or 60 days will be left to the discretion of individual triagers, while if there is in future any co-ordinated team working to resolve stale NEEDINFO issues not handled by the initial triager, they will use the 60 day method. The next QA weekly meeting will be held on 2009-04-22 at 1600 UTC in #fedora-meeting, and the next Bugzappers weekly meeting on 2009-04-21 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings 2. http://www.happyassassin.net/extras/fedora-qa-20090415.log 3. http://rawhidewatch.wordpress.com/ 4. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings 5. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-Apr-14 == Developments == In this section the people, personalities and debates on the @fedora-devel mailing list are summarized. Contributing Writer: Oisin Feeley === Frozen for Fedora 11. Some Packages Still Not Built dist-f11 === Jesse Keating announced[1] that henceforth all F-11/ builds would go to dist-f11-updates-candidate and builds from devel/ would go to dist-f12. He asked for concerned parties to check that builds were being properly tagged. In response to Mike Chambers' question Jesse confirmed[2] that the nightly rawhide composes would consist of Fedora 11 content until the GOLD packages were on their way out to the mirrors at which point the nightly rawhide composes would contain Fedora 12 content. On a related note Bill Nottingham asked[3] maintainers of a list of packages not yet rebuilt in dist-f11 (with the attendant compiler and strong RPM hashes) to fix them if possible. Jesse Keating provided[4] a slightly more aggressive list as an addendum. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00892.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00954.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01160.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01189.html === Xorg Hacking Solves DontZap === Peter Hutterer made some valuable contributions to resolving the furore over the disabling of the zapping of the Xorg server via the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace key combination[1]. Tom Callaway drew attention[2] to a blog entry of Peter's which mentioned upstream patches by Julien Cristau (of Debian) to xkeyboard-config and Peter's own patch[3] to Xserver which together make it possible to disallow zapping by default and also to turn zapping on with a 'setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp' . The net result is that it is possible to get zapping to work but the XKB[4] configuration needs to be set up properly and the DontZap option left disabled (as per the new default). In discussion with Kevin Kofler Peter clarified[5] the situation in which the new settings would take effect. Kevin responded[6] that it appeared that for KDE users zapping with Ctrl-Alt-BkSp would remain as before. Later Peter answered[7] some questions from Suren Karapetyan about the ability to kill broken X grabs with details about how zapping works. The above summary of an elegant technical solution ignores the long, and at times vitriolic, complaints about this change. A common trope occurring in some recent threads seems to be that changes are made by Red Hat employees who are implementing changes without community consultation and all work to a common game plan. Seth Vidal challenged[8] the latter assumption:"In a survey of 10 RH employees you will find between 10 and 40 different opinions. sometimes more if you don't ask some of them to confine their comments to a limited amount of time." In any event it's worth noting that the resolution (which filters the "Terminate_Server" action in a manner consistent[9] with the handling of other actions in xkb rulesets) was contributed upstream by a Red Hat employee. As a point of information Kevin Fenzi also made it clear that the change had not been instigated by FESCo. The new options presented by Peter were in addition to those already suggested[10] in the beta Release Notes. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue171#Zap_DontZap 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00700.html 3. http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg-devel/2009-April/000626.html 4. http://www.charvolant.org/~doug/xkb/html/index.html 5. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00861.html 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00863.html 7. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00838.html 8. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01059.html 9. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01173.html 10. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Beta_release_notes#X_server === Minesweeper Certified Solitaire Professionals Satisfied with DVD === Jesse Keating requested[1] help in selecting which packages should be dropped from the DVD image. He suggested some java development packages and games. Feedback suggested that retaining the games was[2] preferred and dropping the development libraries made sense as the latest versions would be needed[3] and could be obtained from the repositories anyway. Jesse later posted[4] this was sufficient to achieve the desired image size. A side-issue discussed[5] was the unwieldiness of jigdo as a download method. Callum Lerwick suggested[6] that jigdo would benefit from a userspace ISO implementation. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00943.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00947.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00981.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01037.html 5. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01019.html 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01246.html === Presto and DeltaRPM Status === The ability to download binary diffs of RPM packages has been offered[1] for some time now on Fedora through the Presto[2] project and presto-enabled repositories. Interest is high enough in Presto's bandwidth-saving abilities that no fewer than three separate threads were started to ensure that it would function properly for Fedora 11. Warren Togami asked[3] if Presto would be enabled by default for Fedora 11. Last month (2009-03-21) Jonathan Dieter reported[4] that the use of SHA-256 in rpm had broken deltarpm but that a patched version was available in rawhide. See FWN#166[5] for earlier coverage of the challenges and changes resulting from the introduction of stronger hashes[6]. Jonathan also reported that the changes necessary in infrastructure to build deltarpms had been done. These changes were made fairly rapidly thanks to work done[7] Michael Schroeder, the upstream deltarpm developer. One issue that concerned[8] Axel Thimm was the security with which checksums of deltarpms were being made. Till Maas and Jonathan Dieter provided[9] reassurance that all deltarpms are generated from original rpms which needed to pass all verifications which yum and rpm enforce. Martin Sourada was excited[10] not just about Presto but also about the slick new PackageKit in Fedora 11. Martin was concerned about the issue of PackageKit and Presto apparently not working well together. A bugzilla entry revealed[11] that PackageKit developer [[User:|Richard Hughes]] quickly created a patch which Martin reported as working. On 2009-04-16 Bill Nottingham added to the "Rawhide Report" that "[...] rawhide is composed with deltarpms against the prior rawhide. Due to a bug, this is only currently working on i386; it should be fixed for other arches tomorrow. Please test and report any issues." A Fedora Test Day centering around Presto was also announced[12] by [[User:|James Laska]]. The usual excellent wikipage[13] suggests that Presto can deliver significant bandwidth savings. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue97#Presto-digitation 2. http://fedorahosted.org/presto/ 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00701.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01910.html 5. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue166 6. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/StrongerHashes 7. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg00528.html 8. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01236.html 9. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01240.html 10. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01262.html 11. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496445 12. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00939.html 13. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:Presto_2009-04-16 === Browser Plugins May Strip SELinux Protections === Daniel Walsh asked[1] why mozplugger[2] was being installed by default. He cautioned that mozplugger broke nsplugin and thus SELinux functionality. An answer posted[3] by Bill Nottingham pointed out the java plugin as the dependent. Dan worried that while "[a] confined nsplugin is a nice feature for confining plugins downloaded from the network. But if you run openoffice and evince from within nsplugin they get confined, causing the apps to not work properly." In response to Simo Sorce Dan explained that any attempt to write transition rules to enable said applications to work properly would create an easy avenue of attack. Simo wondered[4] if it would be possible to either write a security wrapper to restrict the command line, or to get application developers to honor SELinux labels in some way. Warren Togami shared[5] that removing mozplugger was "[...] something I always do. It seems to cause more problems than it solves [...]" and James Morris expanded[6] upon this with instructions "[...] on both removing mozplugger and restoring the security protections of SELinux. Simply removing the package isn't enough[.]" James questioned "[...] how a package which breaks a security feature not only made it into the repo, but how it became enabled by default[?]" A similar issue was raised[7] by Bruno Wolff III about the re-enabling of disabled Firefox plugins. Comments by Martin Stransky suggest this is a feature of mozilla-plugin-config. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01107.html 2. Mozplugger describes itself as "[a] general purpose Mozilla plugin module that allows the user to embed and launch their favorite application to handle the various different types of media found on the Internet." http://mozplugger.mozdev.org/ 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01111.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01115.html 5. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01117.html 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01226.html 7. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491543 === Getting Rid of /usr for Fedora 12 ? === Lennart Poettering cheerfully invited[1] any inclined parties to a flamefest over the elimination of the /usr directory. Lennart suggested that recent history indicated that more files were being moved from /usr to / and that confusion between the two was a source of error from some packages. Enthusiasm for both the flamewar and the proposal was low. A forceful and well-argued objection was made[2][3] by Konstantin Ryabitsev on the basis that he liked to keep /boot and /usr on their own partitions and use a LUKS-encrypted LVM for everything else. Konstantin emphasized this was especially well-suited to portable machines which need to conserve power and are more likely to need encryption. Ralf Corsepius invoked[4] the FHS[5] on /usr and the need to contain[6] non-essential packages unavailable at certain boot stages therein. Chris Adams added[7] that symlinking /usr to / had been shown to break rpm. Lennart explained[8] how /etc could be made read-only and adduced[9] OpenSUSE, Debian and Gentoo as further evidence that a read-only root could be attained. Callum Lerwick pined[10] for the days of floppy disks. Toshio Kuratomi completely declined to play and asked: "I'm hereby giving notice that I don't have time to read obvious flamefests anymore. Once this thread concludes, please summarize whatever the pros and cons are and send it to the packaging committee to discuss and vote on." 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01063.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01064.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01076.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01077.html 5. http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01105.html 7. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01101.html 8. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01198.html 9. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01208.html 10. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01300.html == Translation == This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n) Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee === Fedora 11 Installation Guide Ready for Translation === Ruediger Landmann announced the availability[1] of the Fedora 11 Installation Guide for translation. Due to import of relevant content from the Red Hat Enterprise Linux Installation Guide into this Guide, the content has substantially increased. The final translation due date is 14th of May 2009 with an extension of 1 week for additional corrections. The .po files would be refreshed on April 28th 2009, to correct errors identified until that date. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00116.html === New Members in FLP === Ali Fakoor[1] has joined the Persian translation team last week. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00108.html == Artwork == In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei === Fedora 11 Landing === As a culmination of last week effort, the new and improved Fedora 11 artwork[1] was packaged and landed in Rawhide, as Martin Sourada announced[2] on his blog. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11/RC 2. http://mso-chronicles.blogspot.com/2009/04/new-leonidas-backgrounds.html === Fedora Weekly Webcomic === This week's installment of Nicu Buculei's comic[1] 1. http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2009/04/fedora-weekly-webcomic-level-up.html == Security Week == In this section, we highlight the security stories from the week in Fedora. Contributing Writer: JoshBressers === Malicious Activity Grows in 2008 === 2008 Saw a surge in malicious code activity [1]This is a disturbing trend, and for the underground, this is easy money. The threat will continue to grow until either the money dries up (unlikely) or the difficulty of exploiting this is greater than the potential gain. Right now it looks like the trend will continue for several years. 1. http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=7311 === Who in the Linux World Would be Responsible for a Worm ? === Last week OSNews asked a rather interesting, but easily answered question: OSNews Asks: Who'd Be Responsible for a Linux Conficker? [1]The world of Open Source security is mostly a process that happens behind the scenes, but is quite effective. There is a wiki called OSS-Security [2] that provides a number of links to various groups. In the event of something like a worm, the vast majority of the effort would end up happening on the Vendor Security (vendor-sec[3]) mailing list. This is a group of trusted Open Source distributors that communicate in private in an effort to keep the end users of Open Source software secure. To date this group has been working out quite well, and the members are very used to solving security flaws in a cooperative manner. In the event of a widespread Linux worm, there would be many tired people, and quite a lot of vendor-sec emails. 1. http://www.osnews.com/story/21312/OSNews_Asks_Who_d_Be_Responsible_for_a_Linux_Conficker_ 2. http://oss-security.openwall.org/wiki/ 3. http://oss-security.openwall.org/wiki/mailing-lists/vendor-sec == Security Advisories == In this section, we cover Security Advisories from fedora-package-announce. http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-package-announce Contributing Writer: David Nalley === Fedora 10 Security Advisories === * ntop-3.3.8-3.fc10 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00388.html * pam-1.0.4-4.fc10 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00398.html * phpMyAdmin-3.1.3.2-1.fc10 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00452.html * udev-127-5.fc10 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00463.html * argyllcms-1.0.3-5.fc10 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00498.html === Fedora 9 Security Advisories === * pam-1.0.4-4.fc9 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00420.html * phpMyAdmin-3.1.3.2-1.fc9 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00442.html * udev-124-4.fc9 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00462.html * argyllcms-1.0.3-5.fc9 - http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00473.html == Ambassadors == In this section, we cover Fedora Ambassadors Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors Contributing Writer: Larry Cafiero === LinuxFest Northwest Starts Saturday === Fedora Project will be attending and presenting at LinuxFest Northwest this weekend in Bellingham, Wash., U.S.A. With five presentations and a booth, Fedora is proud to be a sponsor of LinuxFest Northwest this year. Below is a list of presentations at LFNW by Fedora folks, all of which will be in room Haskell 203 on the Bellingham Technical College campus. * Participate or Die by Karsten Wade at 1 p.m. Sunday * What's under the hat? A sneak peek at Fedora 11! by Jesse Keating at 11 a.m. Sunday * Modular Infrastructure design with Messaging by Jesse Keating at 2 p.m. Sunday * Fedora Remix by Clint Savage at 11 a.m. Sunday. * Fedora 101 by Larry Cafiero at 10 a.m. Saturday, preceding the Fedora Activity Day, which will be from approximately 10:30 (or when Larry decides to quit yammering away) to 4:30 p.m. The complete presentation schedule for LinuxFest Northwest can be found here. === Got Ambassador News? === Any Ambassador news tips from around the Fedora community can be submitted to me by e-mailing lcafiero-AT-fedoraproject-DOT-org and I'd be glad to put it in this weekly report. -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From jbwillia at math.vt.edu Tue Apr 21 15:44:33 2009 From: jbwillia at math.vt.edu (Ben Williams) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:44:33 -0400 Subject: Fedora Unity Releases F10 Re-spins Message-ID: <49EDE9E1.5050506@math.vt.edu> The Fedora Unity Project is proud to announce the release of new ISO Re-Spins of Fedora 10. These Re-Spin ISOs are based on the officially released Fedora 10 installation media and include all updates released as of April 14th, 2009 (saving about 650MB in updates on a default install). The ISO images are available for i386, x86_64, PPC architectures via Jigdo and or Torrent starting Tuesday April 21st, 2009. Go to http://spins.fedoraunity.org/spins to get the bits! Removed Groups in x86_64 and PPC With this spin, we have had to remove a few package groups (and default packages for other groups) to ensure the distribution fits onto a single DVD. This is the case for x86_64 and ppc. See http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fedora-spins/2009-April/000561.html for an exact list. PPC Re-spins PPC isos are being released marked **UNTESTED**, Please Test and give us feedback, Thanks to We would like to give a special thanks to the following for testing this Re-Spin: - zcat Jason Farrell - vwbusguy- Scott Williams - Southern_Gentleman Ben Williams - kanarip Jeroen van Meeuwen - fenrus2 Dennis Johnson - Harley-D Dana Hoffman Jr - sgodsell Sean Godsell - cyberpear James Cassell Testing Results A full test matrix can be found at http://spins.fedoraunity.org/Members/Southern_Gentleman/Fedora-10-20090414-test-matrix Fedora Unity has taken up the Re-Spin task to provide the community with the chance to install Fedora with recent updates already included. This is a community project, for and by the community. You can contribute to the community by joining our test process. Go to http://spins.fedoraunity.org/spins to get the bits! Assistance Needed If you are interested in helping with the testing or mirroring efforts, please contact the Fedora Unity team. Contact information is available at http://fedoraunity.org/ or the #fedora-unity channel on the Freenode IRC Network (irc.freenode.net). To report bugs in the Re-Spins please use http://bugs.fedoraunity.org/ -- Ben Williams Windows-Linux Specialist 460 McBryde Hall Blacksburg VA 24061-0123 540 231-2739 From stickster at gmail.com Sat Apr 25 16:17:28 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 12:17:28 -0400 Subject: Reminder: Fedora Board IRC meeting 1800 UTC 2009-05-05 Message-ID: <20090425161728.GA12588@localhost.localdomain> The Board is holding its monthly public meeting on Tuesday, 5 May 2009, at 1800 UTC on IRC Freenode. The Board has settled on a schedule that puts these public IRC meetings on the first Tuesday of each month. Therefore, the next following public meeting will be on 5 May 2009. For these meetings, the public is invited to do the following: * Join #fedora-board-meeting to see the Board's conversation. * Join #fedora-board-questions to discuss topics and post questions. This channel is read/write for everyone. The moderator will voice people from the queue, one at a time, in the #fedora-board-meeting channel. We'll limit time per voice as needed to give everyone in the queue a chance to be heard. The Board may reserve some time at the top of the hour to cover any agenda items as appropriate. We look forward to seeing you at the meeting! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From oisinfeeley at imapmail.org Mon Apr 27 17:14:35 2009 From: oisinfeeley at imapmail.org (Oisin Feeley) Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:14:35 -0400 Subject: Fedora Weekly News #173 Message-ID: <1240852475.26432.1312550797@webmail.messagingengine.com> Fedora Weekly News Issue 173 Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 173 for the week ending April 26th, 2009. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue173 This week's issue starts with a welcome double dose of FedoraPlanet coverage, providing news and views from around the Fedora community. Our Ambassadors beat shares the LinuxFest Northwest experience. Developments covers the controversy over "PulseAudio: A Hearty and Robust Exchange of Ideas" and in Translation word comes of Fedora 11 Release Notes proofreading readiness. Configuration conflagration of Wacom graphics tablets is revealed in the Art beat. The Fedora Weekly Webcomic divines an unbreakable future. We're brought up to date with SecurityAdvisories for Fedora 9 and 10, and the Virtualization beat completes the issue with updates on virtualization status in Fedora, with specifics on a new libvirt 0.6.3 release, a new libguestfs 1.0.10 release, and KVM migration support in Fedora 11, to name but a few! If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[1]. We welcome reader feedback: fedora-news-list at redhat.com 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Oisin Feeley, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala Contents 1.1 Planet Fedora 1.1.1 General 1.2 Ambassadors 1.2.1 Fedora first at LinuxFest Northwest 1.2.2 Got Ambassador News? 1.3 Developments 1.3.1 Fedora 10 Packages in dist-f11 1.3.2 Bugzilla Passwords 1.3.3 PulseAudio: A Hearty and Robust Exchange of Ideas 1.3.4 Re-starting udev 1.3.5 Fedora Bug-tracker Independent from Red Hat ? 1.3.6 FOSS Needs a Central Bugtracker ? 1.4 Translation 1.4.1 Fedora 11 Preview Release Notes Proof-reading 1.4.2 Fedora 11 User Guide f11-tx Branch Available 1.4.3 New Members in FLP 1.5 Artwork 1.5.1 Cleaning the Queue 1.5.2 Graphic Tablets 1.6 Fedora Weekly Webcomic 1.7 Security Advisories 1.7.1 Fedora 10 Security Advisories 1.7.2 Fedora 9 Security Advisories 1.8 Virtualization 1.8.1 Fedora Virtualization List 1.8.1.1 New Release libguestfs 1.0.10 1.8.1.2 Only libvirt Bug Fixes in updates-testing 1.8.1.3 Fedora Virtualization Status Report 1.8.2 Fedora Xen List 1.8.2.1 Dom0 Kernel Not Before 2.6.31 1.8.3 Libvirt List 1.8.3.1 New Release libvirt 0.6.3 1.8.3.2 KVM Migration Support in F11 == Planet Fedora == In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora - an aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide. http://planet.fedoraproject.org Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin The Planet Fedora beat recently took a short vacation, but is back this week fully refreshed. This issue not only contains posts from the past week, but also a few highlights from the preceding two weeks when there was no coverage. General Eric Christensen announced[1] a new policy for deleting pages on the Fedora Project Wiki. Martin Sourada chronicled[2] a few of the many features that can be expected with the upcoming Fedora 11 (Leonidas): Intel Kernel Mode Setting, faster boot times, better USB camera support, touchpad improvements (and a new tab within the Mouse Preferences applet), PackageKit interface updates, the use of Presto to shrink updates downloads (which could use some additional testing[3], for anyone interested) and more. And with the release of the Synaptics 1.1 driver, Peter Hutterer described[4] some of its new features, including additional details about multi-touch support. Seth Vidal analyzed[5] the Source RPMS that make up various Fedora releases since F7 to find the average number of patches per RPM. Happily, the numbers have been slowly but steadily decreasing. Silas Sewell demonstrated[6] funcshell a new project to build a shell interface around func with all of the features expected of a shell including tab completion, persistent history and integrated help. Josh Boyer mused[7] over "The updates conundrum" and the often larger than expected number of updates in released Fedora versions. "When I see a package update submitted that just takes a package to the latest upstream release, I always question it in my head (and sometimes in the update). I realize that upstream releases often fix bugs that effect users, however the update should say that at a minimum and it generally doesn't. Many times there is an update like this that seems to just be 'because it's the newest!'" Luis Villa questioned[8] whether it might make sense to have a full-time QA person for Xorg with costs shared across some of the many contributor organizations. Marc Ferguson shared[9] an Abbot and Costello "Who's on First" parody in which Abbott attempts to purchase a computer from Costello. Venkatesh Hariharan wrote[10] an article that appeared in Network Computing's India edition, titled "Reaping the benefits of open source". Lubomir Rintel scripted[11] a set of bash functions to automatically label terminal windows (and tabs). Matthew Daniels summarized[12] his experiences at POSSCON2009 (Palmetto Open Source Software Conference) in which a number of interesting and prominent people spoke including Red Hat's CIO, Lee Congdon, among others. Amit Shah re-evaluated[13] the performance of a number of Linux filesystem and option combinations. 1. http://fedora-sparks.blogspot.com/2009/04/new-policy-for-deleting-wiki-pages-on.html 2. http://mso-chronicles.blogspot.com/2009/04/random-leonidas-goodies.html 3. http://rawhidewatch.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/yum-presto-delta-rpm-support-needs-testing/ 4. http://who-t.blogspot.com/2009/04/synaptics-11-and-what-your-touchpad-can.html 5. http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/patches-per-src-rpm-in-fedora/ 6. http://www.silassewell.com/blog/2009/04/22/funcshell-a-shell-interface-to-func/ 7. http://jwboyer.livejournal.com/31668.html 8. http://tieguy.org/blog/2009/04/22/a-rumbling-about-x-qa/ 9. http://www.fergytech.com/2009/04/costello-buys-a-computer/ 10. http://osindia.blogspot.com/2009/04/reaping-benefits-of-open-source.html 11. http://v3.sk/~lkundrak/blog/entries/bashrc.html 12. http://danielsmw.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/posscon-summary/ 13. http://www.amitshah.net/2009/04/re-comparing-file-systems.html == Ambassadors == In this section, we cover Fedora Ambassadors Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors Contributing Writer: Larry Cafiero === Fedora first at LinuxFest Northwest === Fedora was on hand for the LinuxFest Northwest in Bellingham, Washington, USA, on Saturday and Sunday, and Fedora was "first" insofar as it was the first booth for folks come to when they entered the hall at Bellingham Technical College. Saturday was a busy day for Fedora at LinuxFest Northwest. Larry Cafiero gave a presentation before the Fedora Activity Day, which drew about 30 people. The FAD at LFNW revolved around three different projects: The 4th Grade Math Project for OLPC, an F11 bug fest, and general Fedora questions-and-answers. The flexibility of the event was its strength, and its weakness was the timing, so while it was overall a success, there were still a few bugs in the FAD system. Karsten Wade gave his "Participate or Die" talk on Saturday afternoon -- a talk that is destined for a keynote at some fortunate Linux festival (Open Source World missed out by denying it, pity). On Sunday, Jesse Keating gave two presentations today -- sneak-peeking at F11 and Modular Infrastructure Design with Messaging (the official name) -- and sandwiched between them was Clint Savage's Fedora Remix gig. A significant amount of buttons, media and stickers were given out, as well as some T-shirts for the Fedora faithful. === Got Ambassador News? === Any Ambassador news tips from around the Fedora community can be submitted to me by e-mailing lcafiero-AT-fedoraproject-DOT-org and I'd be glad to put it in this weekly report. == Developments == In this section the people, personalities and debates on the @fedora-devel mailing list are summarized. Contributing Writer: Oisin Feeley === Fedora 10 Packages in dist-f11 === Kalev Lember drew attention[1] to the issue of .fc10 packages ending up in rawhide by error during the freeze. Kalev worried that he had done something wrong to make the rawhide composes pull .fc10 rpms from the Fedora 10 stable-updates repository. Josh Boyer thanked Kalev for identifying the issue and explained that it was an error due to koji tag inheritance. Jesse Keating added[2] that his efforts to ease tag requests had forgotten to take tag inheritance into account but that he would fix this shortly. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01934.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01969.html === Bugzilla Passwords === Another thread about bugzilla (see also this FWN#173 "FOSS Needs a Central Bugtracker" and "Fedora Bugtracker Independent from Red Hat?") concerned[1] itself with the automated requirement to change to a new user password. Felix Miata was upset that he could not use previous passwords: "If you won't let me choose my password, I have no use for you. I have too many systems and web browsers to use and too many places that need passwords for any site to decide I can't use my choice of password [...] I've changed banks over lesser stupidities." Matthias Saou and Ian Weller suggested[2] a dirty work-around. Konstantin Ryabitsev suggested[3] using supergenpass[4]. Basil Mohamed Gohar and Adam Williamson liked[5] the GNOME combination of Password Generator and Revelation. After some questioning of the motivations and need for such password changes Jesse Keating rationalized[6] regular password changes a little sarcastically: "There is a theory that changing passwords on a regular bases lessens the risk of somebody's password being stolen and used nefariously. Depending on the account compromised the damage increases from nuisance to legally damaging[...]" and suggested that a more worthwhile discussion would be "[...] whether or not the pains we hit here are worth the pains we'd encounter by running our own instance of bugzilla." This questioning started[7] the list that there was "[...] a plausible case that doesn't involve Red Hat data - not-yet-public security issues - was subsequently cited. Even if we split Fedora bugzilla from Red Hat bugzilla, it'll still contain sensitive data." 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01562.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01600.html 3. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01576.html 4. http://supergenpass.com/ 5. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01579.html 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01611.html 7. to hone-in on the idea that the changes were done mainly to fulfil Red Hat business requirements and Adam Williamson remindedhttp://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01653.html === PulseAudio: A Hearty and Robust Exchange of Ideas === Executive summary: a long flamewar resulted in at least three things: 1)the original problem over how to individually control volumes on the "Master" and "PCM" channels was solved[1]; 2)a subsidiary problem of a graphical control allowing selection of the input device was rectified by re-packaging the old gnome-alsamixer[2]; 3)tension between the Desktop team, FESCo, the Board and everyone else was increased. Read on only if you must. A long, multi-thread flamewar over the (dis)advantages of the new VolumeControl (more specifically gnome-volume-control) applet in Fedora 11 smoked and crackled. The gnome-volume-control applet provides a highly simplified interface to the PulseAudio[3] sound server, itself a source of contention for some time. The extent of this simplification contrasted to the old volume-control applets which talked directly to ALSA and exposed all the details of a card was emphasized[4][5] in screenshots of the "Alsa-Mixer-O-Doom" posted by Dave Jones and Will Woods. A bugzilla filed[6] by Adam Williamson explains that hiding the mixer channels makes it difficult to handle many scenarios which require the adjustment of specific mixer channels in order to achieve basic sound functionality. Although there has been prolonged sniping at PulseAudio for some time this week's dispute seemed more unpleasant and prolonged than many. Its tangled, sprawling mess eventually drew in FESCo and flung its tendrils into issues of whether FESCo should dictate UI design and the possible reversion[7] of the entire "VolumeControl" feature[8][9], and whether FESCo had[10] jurisdiction over what went into the Desktop spin. The first thread started[11][12] in Callum Lerwick's request for information on how to adjust volume informations on individual channels. He explained that he was hooking a second computer up to the "line-in" to share speakers and needed to adjust the PCM volume. Bastien Nocera thought[13] that Callum's use case was esoteric and would not be accomodated. He suggested using PulseAudio over the network instead. A later report by Joonas Saraj?rvi suggested[14] this should be possible. Things went downhill from then on when Callum asked[15] for "[...] an option to get the old damn panel applet back [or] at least a secret gconf key to do what I want?" and characterized the Volume Control applet as "immature". Bastien's response was[16] that the applet had been described for over a year on the wiki and he suggested the GConf was not of use because the volume control worked at the level of PulseAudio and not ALSA. Lennart Poettering also suggested[17] that using alsamixer -c0 on the command-line would provide the level of control desired for those who wanted "pretty exotic feature[s and] weird stuff like [playing audio through line-in]." Many insults were exchanged[18]. Kevin Kofler helpfully responded[19] to Callum Lerwick's complaint that Pidgin alert sounds exploded his speakers with the suggestion that he edit /etc/pulse/daemon.conf to flat-volumes = no Following suggestions from Lennart and Kevin Kofler success was finally achieved[20][21] in loading the alsa-sink module so that the PCM volume could be controlled. Elsewhere in this thread Lennart provided several high-level overviews of how sound should be handled on a desktop including obsoleting playing audio CDs via the classic "analog" path[22] A question from Andreas Thiemann asked how it came about that while his sound volume was acceptable with the MS Windows software mixer set to 75% and the physical speaker volume set to 50% he needed to set all of the physical volume, gnome-volume-control and the PCM volume (via an ALSA mixer) to 100% to achieve similar volumes on GNU/Linux. Lennart explained[23] that this was due to insufficient information in the alsa mixer init database and that patches to this database from anyone needing to manually fix their settings would be very useful. Apparently "[...] unning alsamixer -c0 alsa will remember [the fixed settings] and hence [users] never get annoyed by [sound problems] anymore so they don't remember to post [these patches to the database.]" Lennart expanded[24][25] on how to generate such patches to alsa-utils' /lib/alsa/init/hda. Adam Williamson worried[26] that the roots of this specific problem lay elsewhere. The aforementioned database suggested[27][28] to David Woodhouse a need for a way for users to manually tweak their sound settings for the inevitable cases in which the database lacked (or contained inaccurate) information on specific hardware. David also explained[29] that the new VolumeControl applet was not yet ready for prime-time in his opinion. The thread was summarized[30] beautifully by Fernando Lopez-Lezcano as an infinite loop. A second thread was started by Dimi Paun in which he bemoaned[31] some unspecific problems with sound in Fedora 11. This was met with mixed anecdotal statements confirming or denying the general assertion and a request for specific bugzilla entries. A third thread was initiated[32] by Adam Williamson. He proposed "[...] in the spirit of light rather than heat [to] include by default an alternative GUI app which allows direct access to the mixer channels. This won't be an applet or anything else persistent, just an application that you can choose to run if you need that level of access[.]" It should be noted that this proposal addressed a different problem to the one expressed by Callum Lerwick (solved as noted above by poking around at ALSA), instead it addressed some of the other relatively frequent complaints. By this time tempers were very frayed and although there was strong agreement that this temporary, stop-gap measure was a good compromise for Fedora 11 there were plenty of histrionics. Jesse Keating 's suggestion that the alternative GUI application contain "some text [...] that instructs people to file bugs [so] we can capture the use cases that the default mixer is missing and help the developers better target things" was dismissed[33] by Olivier Galibert Olivier asserted that Lennart would not fix such bugs: "You may not have noticed, but when people indicate a case that is seemingly not supported by PA[1], politely and everything, the answer by the main PA developer is either one or both of `don't use PA then' or `your use case is rare and uninteresting and won't be supported'." David Woodhouse reinforced[34] the point and argued that too many bugs were closed by PulseAudio developers as WONTFIX. Adam Williamson returned[35] to his central point which was that "[...] new g-v-c has no way to select the input device. If the default does not happen to be the one you actually want to record from, you're stuck. The rest of the cases discussed have really been either bugs or corner cases and I'm not too concerned about those, the bugs will be fixed and we shouldn't worry about corner cases too much. Input switching is the biggie, and it is not a `legacy use case', it is half of the functionality of any sound adapter. Lennart has acknowledged this as a missing feature that will be added in the F12 timeframe, which is why I've already said that as long as that happens - and most of the `the slider doesn't really control my volume' bugs are fixed - I'd be happy for the alternative mixer not to be installed by default from F12 on." Lennart responded[36] to arguments from Kevin Kofler and David Woodhouse that the new gnome-volume-control was too simplified with an assertion that most current soundcards offloaded signal processing to CPUs with MMX and SSE extension. This, he argued, meant that "the only controls that are really necessary are NOT those which control signal processing but those which control routing." Towards the end of all this FESCo held its weekly meeting and the IRC logs[37] contain a full record of what KevinFenzi's "FESCo Meeting Summary for 2009-04-24" handily summarizes as: "Long and contentious discussion about concerns with the VolumeControl feature. FESCo decided to get gnome-alsamixer packaged and added to the default desktop live/install spins to allow users whos use cases are not covered currently by VolumeControl to have a GUI way to adjust mixer settings. Hopefully this will be dropped/revisited in F12." David Woodhouse described[38] this as a compromise about which he had serious reservations. Christopher Aillon expressed[39] unhappiness with post-freeze changes and cited the unhappy example of Codeina. Jesse Keating refuted[40] the comparison as "[...] a compromise for the sake of F11 was reached, one that doesn't require any changes to existing software, only the addition of one package. Comparing it to the Codina fiasco isn't exactly fair." An insightful discussion about the relationship between the "desktop spin" and the "default spin" was conducted between Paul W. Frields[41], Toshio Kuratomi[42] and others. KevinFenzi and Adam Williamson did not[43] agree with Paul that the functionality provided by gnome-alsamixer was "bit-twiddling" and saw it instead as basic and frequently desired. As of going to press personal abuse of Lennart Poettering continued unabated. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02164.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02041.html 3. http://www.pulseaudio.org/ 4. http://people.redhat.com/alexl/files/why-alsa-sucks.png 5. http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/junk/wtf/alsa-mixer-o-doom.jpg 6. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491372 7. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:FESCo-2009_04_24#tApr_24_12:18:57 8. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VolumeControl 9. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:FESCo-2009_04_24#tApr_24_12:24:37 10. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:FESCo-2009_04_24#tApr_24_12:50:33 11. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01452.html 12. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01729.html 13. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01485.html 14. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02000.html 15. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01522.html 16. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01634.html 17. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01830.html 18. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01862.html 19. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01721.html 20. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02164.html 21. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02174.html 22. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01955.html 23. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01876.html 24. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01895.html 25. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01897.html 26. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01914.html 27. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02134.html 28. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02150.html 29. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02160.html 30. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02001.html 31. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01870.html 32. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02003.html 33. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02014.html 34. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02044.html 35. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02066.html 36. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02137.html 37. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:FESCo-2009_04_24 38. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02120.html 39. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02047.html 40. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02050.html 41. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02082.html 42. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02108.html 43. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg02191.html === Re-starting udev === Following a security flaw in udev[1] for which patches were[2] quickly made available "Dennis J." asked[3]: "What is the proper procedure to update infrastructure components like udev or hal without rebooting the machine? udev for example doesn't have an init script." Dennis pointed out that with virtualization becoming more common reboots of host machines are something which it would be nice to avoid. M.A. Young provided[4] the information that udevd is started from /etc/rc.d/rc.sysint and can be restarted with: /sbin/start_udev 1. http://cert.belnet.be/belnetadvisories/rhsa-20090427-01-important-udev-security-update 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01702.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01698.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01714.html === Fedora Bug-tracker Independent from Red Hat ? === Basil Mohamed Gohar asked[1] for constructive criticism of a proposal which would result in the Fedora Project community hosting its own bugzilla instance. Basil attempted to provide some guidelines for the discussion. Although several participants admitted that it would be nice if bugzilla were faster Will Woods identified[2] resource constraints which rendered the discussion pointless: "This discussion is moot unless you can find someone with the manpower, hardware, bandwidth, and expertise to maintain such a bug tracker - 24/7/365 - for the entire Fedora community. So far we've identified *one* organization willing to do that - Red Hat's Bugzilla team. Unless you've got someone else who can commit to that, there's really nothing else to discuss." A practical disadvantage pointed[3] out by Mike McGrath of implementing Basil's scheme was that currently users of Fedora, Red Hat and CentOS only need to go to a single place to file bugs. Matēj Cepl ranted[4] a little when Basil approved of the "FOSS Needs a Central Bugtracker?" thread (see this same FWN#173). Matej quoted[5] Alan Cox's essay advising how to "Beware `We should', extend a hand to `How do I?'". 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01667.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01668.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01679.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01809.html 5. http://slashdot.org/features/98/10/13/1423253.shtml === FOSS Needs a Central Bugtracker ? === Markg85 started[1] a longish thread in which he proposed to start a single FOSS bugtracker for "[the] top 10 major foss distributions for now i think[.]" David Woodhouse thought[2] that OpenID might be simpler, but wondered what sort of bugs would be filed by people without the attention-span to register for an account with each bug tracker. Colin Walters also suggested[3] on focusing on less universal solutions and proposed "[...] more tractable, incremental problem to take on that would get us closer to what you want, consolidating project hosting would be a good start. For example, I'm very much against developers hosting projects on e.g. some old Trac instance on their personal vserver, for many reasons, among them that if at some later time they get bored or whatever, the server goes down and with it a lot of useful data." 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01414.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01624.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg01535.html == Translation == This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n) Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee === Fedora 11 Preview Release Notes Proof-reading === John J. McDonough announced[1] the availability of the built version of the Fedora 11 Preview Release Notes for proof-reading. These notes would be available until Fedora 11 GA. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00147.html === Fedora 11 User Guide f11-tx Branch Available === The f11-tx branch of the Fedora 11 User Guide is now available at translate.fedoraproject.org for translation submissions[1][2]. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00142.html 2. http://translate.fedoraproject.org/tx/projects/docs-user-guide/f11-tx/ === New Members in FLP === JoseRoberto (Brazilian Portuguese)[1], Pavel Lobach (Russian)[2], Sergey Danilov (Russian)[3], and Martin Zehetmayer (German)[4] joined the Fedora Localization Project this week. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00133.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00137.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00138.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-April/msg00141.html == Artwork == In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei === Cleaning the Queue === This week some fresh blood started to help in cleaning the requests queue[1] of the Art team, with Israel Rodr?guez Alonso proposing[2] a design[3] for "4foundations Flags", Daniel Martinez Sarta trying[4] a T-shirt[5] and some other newcomers still trying to get heir feet wet. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00244.html 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:4fflags1.png 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00250.html 5. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:T-Shirt_LATAM.svg === Graphic Tablets === Israel Rodr?guez Alonso's efforts[1] to configure a Wacom graphic tabled, solved with Martin Sourada advice[2] of using the pre-built binaries "why do you try to install the linuxwacom software (and from prebuilt binaries instead of recompiling them first) when there is linuxwacom package available" drove Paul W. Frields to ask[3] for a recommendation "I want to buy a drawing tablet, preferably something very well supported in Fedora and using USB. I'm assuming Wacom is the way to go, but I'm not sure which model to get, and I'm open minded as long as I know it's solid and works well with Fedora" and M?ir?n Duffy shared[4] her experience "I've always had luck with the Wacom graphire series. They're quite affordable, [...]. For years now they just work out-of-the-box, and if you want pressure-sensitivity, it's just a little more configuration". 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00264.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00265.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00267.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00269.html == Fedora Weekly Webcomic == This week something unbreakable is prophesied.[1] 1. http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2009/04/fedora-weekly-webcomic-unbreakable.html == Security Advisories == In this section, we cover Security Advisories from fedora-package-announce. http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-package-announce Contributing Writer: David Nalley === Fedora 10 Security Advisories === * cups-1.3.10-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00520.html * xpdf-3.02-13.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00560.html * moin-1.6.4-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00676.html * epiphany-2.24.3-5.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00723.html * firefox-3.0.9-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00724.html * epiphany-extensions-2.24.0-7.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00725.html * xulrunner-1.9.0.9-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00726.html * blam-1.8.5-9.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00727.html * devhelp-0.22-7.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00728.html * gecko-sharp2-0.13-7.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00729.html * galeon-2.0.7-9.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00730.html * gnome-web-photo-0.3-17.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00731.html * gnome-python2-extras-2.19.1-29.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00732.html * mozvoikko-0.9.5-9.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00733.html * Miro-2.0.3-3.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00734.html * google-gadgets-0.10.5-5.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00735.html * kazehakase-0.5.6-4.fc10.1 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00736.html * perl-Gtk2-MozEmbed-0.08-5.fc10.2 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00737.html * mugshot-1.2.2-8.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00738.html * pcmanx-gtk2-0.3.8-8.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00739.html * ruby-gnome2-0.18.1-5.fc10.1 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00740.html * yelp-2.24.0-8.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00741.html * glib2-2.18.4-2.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00744.html === Fedora 9 Security Advisories === * cups-1.3.10-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00510.html * xpdf-3.02-13.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00538.html * moin-1.6.4-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00615.html * firefox-3.0.9-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00682.html * xulrunner-1.9.0.9-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00683.html * chmsee-1.0.1-11.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00684.html * epiphany-2.22.2-10.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00685.html * epiphany-extensions-2.22.1-10.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00686.html * blam-1.8.5-8.fc9.1 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00687.html * devhelp-0.19.1-11.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00688.html * gnome-python2-extras-2.19.1-26.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00689.html * google-gadgets-0.10.5-5.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00690.html * galeon-2.0.7-9.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00691.html * gnome-web-photo-0.3-20.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00692.html * evolution-rss-0.1.0-10.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00693.html * mugshot-1.2.2-8.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00694.html * Miro-2.0.3-3.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00695.html * ruby-gnome2-0.17.0-8.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00696.html * gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-28.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00697.html * mozvoikko-0.9.5-9.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00698.html * kazehakase-0.5.6-4.fc9.1 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00699.html * totem-2.23.2-14.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00700.html * yelp-2.22.1-11.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-April/msg00701.html == Virtualization == In this section, we cover discussion on the @et-mgmnt-tools-list, @fedora-xen-list, and @libvirt-list of Fedora virtualization technologies. Contributing Writer: Dale Bewley === Fedora Virtualization List === This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-virt list. ==== New Release libguestfs 1.0.10 ==== Richard Jones announced[1] release 1.0.10 of libguestfs[2]. Born only a couple of weeks ago(FWN#171[3]), libguestfs has progressed very far very fast. The package is currently being reviewed[4] for inclusion the Fedora repo. "libguestfs is a library for accessing and modifying guest disk images. Amongst the things this is good for: making batch configuration changes to guests, getting disk used/free statistics (see also: virt-df), migrating between virtualization systems (see also: virt-p2v), performing partial backups, performing partial guest clones, cloning guests and changing registry/UUID/hostname info, and much else besides." Features in 1.0.10 include: * bindings for: C, C++, Perl, Python, OCaml, Ruby, Java and shell scripting * KVM support * QEMU binary is completely configurable at compile & runtime * ext4 support * support for uploading and downloading arbitrary-sized files * support for uploading and downloading tar and tar.gz content * support for querying size of block devices, setting r/o * support for reading ext2/3 superblocks * stat, lstat, statvfs commands * commands to mount filesystems read-only * run arbitrary commands from the guest * file(1) command * readline in guestfish with history and tab completion * guestfish 'edit' command * big documentation improvements, including more on the internals * pkgconfig file Richard posted some example uses[5] of the libguestfs command line tool called guestfish. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-April/msg00220.html 2. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/libguestfs/ 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue171#Guest_Configuration_with_augeas_and_libguestfs 4. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495564 5. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/libguestfs/recipes.html ==== Only libvirt Bug Fixes in updates-testing ==== Daniel Berrange described "introducing major new features into the stable release stream" as a problem[1] and switch to "a pretty strong bugfix only policy..." Mark McLoughlin announced[2] that this has now happened: * libvirt 0.6.1 has been unpushed from F9 and F10 updates-testing * The latest version available in F9 and F10 updates is 0.5.1 * We do not expect to push new versions to F9 and F10, only bug fix updates for 0.5.1 The rapid speed of Fedora releases every 6 months can not keep up with the lightning fast libvirt releases happening every month[3]. To gain access to the new features and technologies offered by these new releases, Mark offers "We are still planning on setting up a 'preview' repository where the latest versions of virt packages from rawhide will be available to Fedora stable release users". In the meantime Daniel Veillard posts[4] a src rpm with each release[5] and "I also build binaries rpms for the flavour of the day I run on my workstation which is why you will find signed binaries too for F9 x86_64". 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue171#Virtualization_Technology_Preview_Repo 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-April/msg00136.html 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue169#More_Formal_libvirt_Release_Scheduling 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-April/msg00283.html 5. ftp://libvirt.org/libvirt/ ==== Fedora Virtualization Status Report ==== Mark McLoughlin provided[1] another excellent round up of the latest bugs and developments with virtualization in Fedora. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-April/msg00170.html === Fedora Xen List === This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-xen list. ==== Dom0 Kernel Not Before 2.6.31 ==== The upstream Xen dom0 work done by Jeremy Fitzhardinge was recently cleaned up and reorganized[1] into two branches: * Known-working - xen-tip/master * Bleeding edge - xen-tip/next Michael Young built[2]a new experimental dom0 kernel version 2.6.30-0.1.2.21.rc3 "based on the Fedora devel kernel branch and [the] xen-tip/next branch from the pvops kernel repository." An RPM of this kernel may be found in Michael's yum repo[3]. Michael also drew attention to the fact that "very few xen patches made it into 2.6.30, just bugfixes and tidy ups, so we are waiting at least until 2.6.31[4] for mainline dom0 support." 1. http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2009-04/msg00955.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-April/msg00012.html 3. http://fedorapeople.org/~myoung/dom0/ 4. http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-devel/2009-04/msg00961.html === Libvirt List === This section contains the discussion happening on the libvir-list. ==== New Release libvirt 0.6.3 ==== Daniel Veillard announced[1] a new libvirt release, version 0.6.3. "The main points are the VirtualBox driver and a number of bug fixes." Read the post for details of other changes. New features: * VirtualBox driver support (Pritesh Kothari) * virt-xml-validate new command (Daniel Berrange) Improvements: * add SCSI storage rescan (David Allan) * rootless LXC containers support improvements (Serge Hallyn) * getHostname support for LXC (Dan Smith) * cleanup and logging output of some domain functions (Guido Gunther) * drop pool lock when allocating volumes (Cole Robinson) * LXC handle kernel without CLONE_NEWUSER support (Serge Hallyn) * cpu pinning on defined Xen domains (Takahashi Tomohiro) * dynamic bridge names support (Soren Hansen) * LXC use of private /dev/pts when available (Daniel Berrange) * virNodeDeviceCreateXML and virNodeDeviceDestroy entry points (Dave Allan) Daniel Veillard followed the announcement with a roadmap [2] suggesting "a new release around May 25, which would mean entering code feature freeze around May 18". Version 0.6.2 was released April 3rd (FWN#170[3]). 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-April/msg00504.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-April/msg00508.html 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue170#New_Release_libvirt_0.6.2 ==== KVM Migration Support in F11 ==== Abhishek Jha [1] "needed to know if libvirt supports migration via the QEMU/KVM driver. ( virDomainMigrate)". Daniel Berrange answered[2] "Yes it is supported in KVM >= 79, or QEMU >= 0.10.0 and libvirt 0.6.0 IIRC." With the latest version of libvirt available for Fedora 10 being 0.5.1, this means migration of KVM guests will not be supported in Fedora until F11 comes out next month.[3] "ALso note that successful migration depends on the hardware config of your guest. In theory any config should work, but in practice there have been bugs in the device state save/restore process of various types of device. So test your particular VM config successfully migrates before relying on it in production." 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-April/msg00501.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-April/msg00509.html 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/Schedule -- Oisin Feeley http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley From skvidal at fedoraproject.org Tue Apr 28 13:54:55 2009 From: skvidal at fedoraproject.org (Seth Vidal) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fedora 11 Preview Release announcement Message-ID: Memorandum of Intent to Release a Distribution of Understanding Things this email is about: - Fedora 11 Preview release - Where to get it - How to test it - Where to report problems Things this email is not about: - If there are too many sliders on a volume control - If there are not enough sliders on a volume control - Grumpiness Agenda Items: - Release Fedora 11 Preview Announcement - Tell everyone how to obtain the Preview Release - Tell everyone how to file bug reports Hidden Agenda: - Joy - Peace - Occasional fun-loving snarkiness Body: This is the Fedora 11 Preview release, we're just a short time from releasing the full shebang. Therefore we need the most testing we can possibly get on this one. On the torrent sites you'll find live images for testing: http://torrent.fedoraproject.org and http://spins.fedoraproject.org Everyone has been focused on fixing and closing their remaining bugs since the Fedora 11 Beta Release. Please use Bugzilla ( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report ) to report any problems you find (after making sure that somebody else hasn't already reported the issues). The Preview release notes which can be found at http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f11preview/ will help you with any other details. Thanks and happy testing! -sv