From stickster at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 12:08:44 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:08:44 -0400 Subject: Reminder: Fedora Board IRC meeting 1700 UTC 2009-07-02 Message-ID: <20090702120844.GC9871@localhost.localdomain> The Board is holding its monthly public meeting on Thursday, July 2, 2009, at 1700 UTC on IRC Freenode. Note this is the first meeting of the newly constituted Board following the post-F11 elections. For this meeting, the public is invited to do the following: * Join #fedora-board-meeting to see the Board's conversation. * Join #fedora-board-questions to discuss topics and post questions. This channel is read/write for everyone. The moderator will voice people from the queue, one at a time, in the #fedora-board-meeting channel. We'll limit time per voice as needed to give everyone in the queue a chance to be heard. The Board may reserve some time at the top of the hour to cover any agenda items as appropriate. We look forward to seeing you at the meeting! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kevin at scrye.com Sun Jul 5 22:54:38 2009 From: kevin at scrye.com (Kevin Fenzi) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 16:54:38 -0600 Subject: Fedora Classroom helpers needed Message-ID: <20090705165438.5ec42acd@ohm.scrye.com> Hey Folks. We are looking for some people to help out with the Fedora Classroom project. Please let me know if you are interested in any of these positions: Instructor Know something about Fedora Project? Whether it be big or small, we want you to come and share your knowledge. Instructors are always needed to present to interested parties. The topic is up to you and it can be basic or very in-depth. Even if you don't feel like your topic is very advanced, many folks love to hear about new and amazing things. Please come and take the time to present! Instructor Recruiters This position would have you look around for people who use Fedora or are associated with Fedora and are interested/willing/able to teach classes. You would explain to them how the classes work and help them setup their class schedules and so forth. This position could also look for people who have interesting blog posts or mailing list postings or are active on IRC and ask them to teach some classes. Advertising/Marketing Working with the Fedora Marketing team, this position would have you mail out class schedules, make blog posts, and any other ways you can think of to get out the message about classes and how to attend them. It would help to be subscribed to various fedora lists and/or be active at fedoraforum.org. Emcee For this position, you would need to be well versed in IRC setup and usage and be able to be available at various times when classes are held. People in this job would introduce classes, answer general questions about the sessions and help control disruptive students or the like. The Emcee should also be able to upload logs of just completed classes to the wiki. Wiki tender People in this job would tend the classroom wiki page. They would make sure schedules are up to date and filled out properly, that archives were uploaded after classes and filed in the right places. Please see our mail wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom For more information. kevin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pcalarco at nd.edu Mon Jul 6 17:30:01 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:30:01 -0400 Subject: Fedora Weekly News 183 Message-ID: <7936B5FE0FA08649B9E2969E1CF5671401187BDF78@ICE-MBX-4.ice.nd.edu> Contents 1 Fedora Weekly News Issue 183 1.1 Announcements 1.1.1 Fedora Elections 1.1.2 Upcoming Events 1.2 Planet Fedora 1.2.1 General 1.3 QualityAssurance 1.3.1 Test Days 1.3.2 Weekly meetings 1.3.3 Test Day survey results 1.4 Artwork 1.4.1 New Request System for the Design Team 1.4.2 A Custom Blog Aggregator 1.5 Security Advisories 1.5.1 Fedora 11 Security Advisories 1.5.2 Fedora 10 Security Advisories 1.5.3 Fedora 9 Security Advisories -- Fedora Weekly News Issue 183 -- Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 183[1] for the week ending July 5, 2009. Here are a few highlights from this week's issue. This week is a lighter issue as many of our writers are enjoying some vacation. In announcements, news that Josh Boyer has been appointed to the final Fedora Board seat. From the Fedora Planet, photo collections from the recent FUDCon Berlin, installing Fedora alongside Vista, and much more. In Quality Assurance news, details on the upcoming Fit and Finish project focusing on display configuration, more details on the AutoQA activities with rawhide, bugzappers weekly log, and more. In Design news, a new ticketed request system for Ambassadors' request to the design team, and details on a new custom blog aggregator, to create a .planet file just for the Art team. This week's issue completes with security advisory roundup for Fedora 9, 10, and 11. Enjoy this week's issue! If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[2]. We welcome reader feedback: fedora-news-list at redhat.com FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Adam Williamson http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue183 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join --- Announcements --- In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project[1] [2] [3]. Contributing Writer: Max Spevack http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events ---- Fedora Elections ---- Last week, we announced that Tom Callaway, Mike McGrath, and Dennis Gilmore were elected to the Fedora Board[1]. This week, Paul Frields announced that Josh Boyer had been appointed to fill the final open Fedora Board seat. Said Frields, "Josh is well known around the Fedora community for his work with release engineering and many other development-oriented groups, as well as his past work with FESCo and as a maintainer of Fedora on PPC architecture." As we reported last week, Bill Nottingham, Seth Vidal, Kevin Fenzi, Kevin Kofler, and Dennis Gilmore were elected[2] to the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-June/msg00014.html http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-June/msg00015.html ---- Upcoming Events ---- Consider attending or volunteering at an event near you! North America (NA)[1] Central & South America (LATAM)[2] Europe, Middle East, and Africa (EMEA)[3] India, Asia, Australia (India/APJ)[4] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q2_.28June_2009_-_August_2009.29 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q2_.28June_2009_-_August_2009.29_2 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q2_.28June_2009_-_August_2009.29_3 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q2_.28June_2009_-_August_2009.29_4 --- Planet Fedora --- In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora[1] - an aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide. Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin http://planet.fedoraproject.org ---- General ---- FUDCon wound to a close, and Nicu Buceli and Joerg Simon posted[1][2] some goodbye photos. Daniel Walsh asked[3] (but more importantly, answered) the question "How do I tell if an access was added in the latest policy release?" using the sesearch and audit2why tools from SELinux. Dave Jones suggested[4] that unreleased kernels could use some extra testing love. "Producing RPM builds of the rawhide kernel for our already released Fedoras...What I?m toying with doing is some devel kernels for Fedora 11 that are built outside of the Fedora build system." John Babich explained[5] how to install Fedora along-side Vista. Adam Williamson described[6] the new policies around the "severity" and "priority" fields in Fedora's Bugzilla. Additionally, Adam has been working "to improve and create pages dedicated to explaining how to debug issues in particular components, and how to provide appropriate information when filing bugs on those components" as well as a project called Fit and Finish[7] "to work on the small details that make a polished desktop experience." Adam John Miller wrote[8] about Firefox and "The progression of popularity and the stigma of the Geek." The post covers the evolution of Netscape to Firefox and today's calls for WebKit everywhere. Jeroen van Meeuwen proposed[9] that Fedora 12 should be supported with an additional 6-month "Extended Life Cycle" consisting of only security fixes, when the End-Of-Life policy would otherwise be put into place. As a special bonus, from elsewhere in the blogosphere, Aaron Seigo (of KDE fame) described[10] some issues around processes and decision making at freedesktop.org, and how they might be overcome (this being a particularly auspicious time with the combined GUADEC+Akademy Gran Canaria Desktop Summit taking place). http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2009/06/fudcon-day-3.html http://kitall.blogspot.com/2009/06/fudcon-berlin-2009-is-past.html http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/29463.html http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/06/29/increasing-testing-unreleased-kernels/ http://jmbuser.livejournal.com/12198.html http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/07/03/bug-information-pages-severity-and-priority-fit-and-finish-and-more/ Fit and Finish http://pseudogen.blogspot.com/2009/07/firefox-progression-of-popularity-and.html http://www.kanarip.com/2009/07/fedora-feature-proposal-extended-life-cycle http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/06/saving-freedesktoporg-together.html --- QualityAssurance --- In this section, we cover the activities of the QA team[1]. Contributing Writer: Adam Williamson http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA ---- Test Days ---- There was no Test Day last week. No Test Day is scheduled on the main track next week. However, the new Fit and Finish[1] Test Day track will be holding its first event[2], on display configuration (particularly multiple displays, and projectors). The Test Day page already includes several test scenarios, and a live CD for testing will soon be available. The Fit and Finish project is a great effort to improve the details of the Fedora project, so please show up to support their first event! The Test Day will be held on 2009-07-07 (Tuesday) in IRC #fedora-fitandfinish (note this is not the same channel where main track Test Days take place). If you would like to propose a main track Test Day for the Fedora 12 cycle, please contact the QA team via email or IRC, or file a ticket in QA Trac[3]. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fit_and_Finish http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-07-07_Fit_and_Finish:Display_Configuration https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ ---- Weekly meetings ---- The QA group weekly meeting[1] was held on 2009-07-01. The full log is available[2]. James Laska reported that he had not yet been able to update the QA Goals page[3], but had started work on it and hoped to have it complete soon. He noted that he had completed his survey of feedback on the Test Day review questionnaire[4]. Will Woods reported that he had added two more test cases to the Rawhide acceptance test plan[5], based on suggestions received to the initial plan: post-install networking and post-install input. Matthias Clasen reported on the new Fit and Finish project[6], discussed on mailing lists under the topic 'raising the bar'. He explained it would be based on a series of Test Days concentrating on user experience rather than developer-driven 'features', and hoped members of the QA team would come along to help drive testing. J?hann Gu?mundsson suggested that the Test Day pages should provide more instructions on what information to include with bug reports for the Fit and Finish topics. Will Woods gave a quick further update on the status of AutoQA (which includes the rawhide acceptance testing discussed earlier). He noted that the test plan was complete and seven of twelve test cases had been written. The next step is to start automating cases, which is waiting on the packaging of autotest. This is being tracked in a ticket[7]. James Laska and Jesse Keating are working on this together, and making good progress. Will hopes that by next week, all test cases will be written and one will be automated. He also noted he was working on how to allow manual test result reports, as there will inevitably be cases that cannot be automated. James Laska reported on behalf of Liam Li, on his draft for a installation test event SOP[8]. This is intended to document the procedure for running an event where multiple people work together in real time to test installation. James reported that Liam had produced an initial draft, and it had been revised with help from Christopher Beland and Niels Haase. Finally, J?hann Gu?mundsson reported on his project to improve the quality and quantity of information contained in bug reports[9]. He had filed an RFE[10] to improve the interface of abrt (the automated bug reporting tool). Matthias Clasen suggested asking the Design team for help in further refining the interface, and James Laska pointed out they had come up with good suggestions for the SELinux troubleshooting GUI design[11]. The Bugzappers group weekly meeting[12] was held on 2009-06-30. The full log is available[13]. Brennan Ashton reported on the status of the triage metric project. He had got FAS integration and component grouping implemented, but adding some features requested by James Laska had caused significant breakage which he was working on. Niels Haase provided an update on his efforts to update the triage critical component list. He had written a draft[14] for a list based on the critical path component list being developed for that proposal, and proposed to add components from this list to the existing list[15]. The group approved this in principle, but pointed out several components that should be removed as they do not make sense from the triage perspective, and also noted that any packages which the components in the list depend on should be considered for addition as well. Niels promised to provide a list of these dependencies for the next meeting. Adam Williamson reported on the project to improve (and create) pages explaining how to debug problems in particular components, and what information to include when reporting bugs in these components. This had grown out of J?hann Gu?mundsson's 'improve reporting' proposal[16]. He encouraged all group members to contribute to the page for their triage components, and create a page if there is not yet one. The page for X.org[17] was cited as a good example or template. Niels Haase mentioned a page for NetworkManager[18] currently in draft status. Adam also mentioned he had received a proposal from Ubuntu's James Westby for the distributions to work together on combining their pages of this type, and contributing them to the original upstream projects. The group agreed this was a good idea in principle and they would wait for further information from James, relayed via Adam. Matej Cepl reported that the latest rewrite of the triage team GreaseMonkey script was nearly complete, and appealed for volunteers to help test it. Adam Williamson reported that the project to implement use of the severity and priority fields in Bugzilla was now more or less complete, and asked all triagers if they had not already to begin assessing the severity of bugs when triaging them. He referred to the instructions on this in the Triage Guide[19] on how to assign severity appropriately. The next QA weekly meeting will be held on 2009-07-08 at 1600 UTC in #fedora-meeting, and the next Bugzappers weekly meeting on 2009-07-07 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20090701 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Goals http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00009.html http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Rawhide_Acceptance_Test_Plan#Basic_Functionality http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fit_and_Finish https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/ticket/9 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Liam/Draft_Install_Test_SOP http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/QA/Improve_reporting https://fedorahosted.org/abrt/ticket/53 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design/SETroubleshootUsabilityImprovements http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-Jun-30 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Arxs/CPCL http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Components_and_Triagers http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/QA/Improve_reporting http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Xorg/Debugging http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Arxs/NetworkManager/Debugging http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/How_to_Triage ---- Test Day survey results ---- James Laska posted[1] a round-up of the results of his survey on the Fedora 11 cycle Test Days. It provides an overview and summary of the feedback received both publicly and privately in response to the survey. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00009.html --- Artwork --- In this section, we cover the Fedora Design Team[1]. Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork ---- New Request System for the Design Team ---- After Frank Murphy asked[1] on @fedora-design about forwarding design requests and inquiries from the users list "Occasionnally, the other lists get Q? re . Fedora provided Image apps\formats. Would it be ok, for me to forward those. Without throwing the teams work-flow" M?ir?n Duffy pointed[2] to the new created ticket system[3] "I created a new ticket type 'materials for ambassadors' in the design-team trac ticket queue. So please encourage the ambassadors to open up tickets for requests like these". Ian Weller moved[4] all the existing requests from the old wiki page[5] to the new system and also a mailing list was created[6] for notifications about tickets. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000313.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000319.html http://fedorahosted.org/design-team/report http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000324.html http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000375.html ---- A Custom Blog Aggregator ---- M?ir?n Duffy raised a call[1] for all the members of the Fedora Design Team owning blogs to submit their data for a blog aggregation, something that was planned for long time "We need to put together a .planet file so Seth can create a planet just for our team. I need your help, though: If you think you should/shouldn't be on this list can you let me know?" and later she figured out[2] everyone can to it by themselves "Take the chunk of the planet config that pertains to your blog, and copy it into a .planet.design file in your home directory on fedorapeople.org". With the help of Seth Vidal from the Infrastructure Team, the aggregator was put up and running[3], so those interested in a Fedora Design Team Planet[4] can read it without much additional noise. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000338.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000348.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000352.html http://planet.fedoraproject.org/design/ --- Security Advisories --- In this section, we cover Security Advisories from fedora-package-announce. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-package-announce Contributing Writer: David Nalley ---- Fedora 11 Security Advisories ---- drupal-6.13-1.fc11 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-July/msg00123.html pidgin-2.5.8-1.fc11 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-July/msg00162.html libtiff-3.8.2-13.fc11 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-July/msg00230.html phpMyAdmin-3.2.0.1-1.fc11 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-July/msg00256.html ---- Fedora 10 Security Advisories ---- xorg-x11-xfs-1.0.5-3.1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-July/msg00096.html phpMyAdmin-3.2.0.1-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-July/msg00152.html libtiff-3.8.2-13.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-July/msg00161.html pidgin-2.5.8-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-July/msg00176.html drupal-6.13-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-July/msg00218.html ---- Fedora 9 Security Advisories ---- Note: Fedora 9 is nearing EOL; Per FESCo support for Fedora 9 will be discontinued on July 10th 2009 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-June/msg00009.html xorg-x11-xfs-1.0.5-2.1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-July/msg00095.html libtiff-3.8.2-13.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-July/msg00142.html phpMyAdmin-3.2.0.1-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-July/msg00150.html drupal-6.13-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-July/msg00166.html pidgin-2.5.8-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-July/msg00228.html -- end FWN 183 -- Pascal Calarco, Fedora Ambassador, Indiana, USA https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pcalarco -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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These files are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org - the format (as of this evening) for the layout of these files is //.. This plugin will work in any channel in which zodbot is present. If your team would like zodbot in your channel (it should be in most already), ping ricky, jds2001 (me), or nirik in #fedora-admin and we'll get him right over there! Some important commands: #startmeeting - this starts a meeting about whatever topic you provide. The person running this command is automatically given chair powers. #chair - provide a space separated list of chairs for the meeting. These all have equal powers. You may not need more than one. #topic - this sets the sub-topic for the meeting - i.e. what you're talking about that moment. This is used to organize the minutes. Only a chair can use this command. #agreed - this command can be used by chairs in order to denote something that was agreed upon during the meeting #action - this records an action item from the meeting. If a nick is present, it is assigned to that person in the minutes (note - it only knows about nicks which have spoken to that point. For instance, if I weren't at the meeting and you just assigned an action item to me, it wouldn't come out that way in the minutes. The workaround for this would be to use #nick to make the nick known). #endmeeting - ends the meeting and prints URL's to the logs and minutes of the meeting. As always, feel free to let me know if you have questions or problems using zodbot! Thanks! -Jon From stickster at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 13:58:15 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:58:15 -0400 Subject: Fedora 9 End of Life Message-ID: <20090710135815.GK28530@localhost.localdomain> As announced earlier[1], Fedora 9 has reached its end of life for updates. 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Here are a few highlights from this week's issue. This past week marked the end of life for Fedora 9, and the launch of a new logging tool to help facilitate reporting for Fedora IRC meetings. In news from the Fedora Planet, an overview of the development changes for Fedora 12, and several posts around Mono in light of Microsoft's recent Community Promise. In Ambassador news, coverage of recent Fedora release events in Vancouver, Washington, Malaysia and India. In Translation news, a new Fedora 11 Users' Guide is now available in Bosnian, changes in Transfix, and new members of the Fedora Localization Project. In Design news, details on a new Gallery test instance for development of in-process works by the Art Team. Also some new wallpapers, and more theming discussion around Fedora 12 'Constantine.' The issue rounds out with news from virtualization-related efforts, including news of more device support in virt-manager, announcement of a new list for discussion of "libguestfs/guestfish/virt-inspector discussion/development." These are but a sampling of this week's Fedora Weekly News -- we hope you enjoy it! If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[2]. We welcome reader feedback: fedora-news-list at redhat.com FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Adam Williamson http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue184 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join -- Announcements -- In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project[1] [2] [3]. Contributing Writer: Max Spevack http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events --- Fedora 9 (Sulphur) --- Fedora 9 has reached its end-of-life[1] and will no longer receive any updates. Fedora 10 will continue to receive updates until about 1 month after Fedora 12's release, and Fedora 11 will be updated until about 1 month after Fedora 13. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-July/msg00004.html --- Meeting Logging --- A new tool for IRC meeting management[1] is available for Fedora channels on Freenode. Jon Stanley[2] explained that the tool "was developed by our friends over at Debian, who are using it to record their meetings as well. We would like all Fedora meetings to be recorded using this mechanism, such that there's one format for all of the logs." http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-July/msg00003.html https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jstanley --- Fedora Packaging Committee --- There is an open seat on the Fedora Packaging Committee[1]. Those who are interested should contact Tom Callaway[2]. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-July/msg00006.html https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Spot --- Resources for packagers --- Kevin Fenzi[1] has "setup some machines/virtual instances here to assist maintainers that might not have access to all versions/arches Fedora runs on."[2]. If you want more information, see the appropriate wiki page[3]. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-July/msg00004.html https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Machine_Resources_For_Package_Maintainers --- Upcoming Events --- Consider attending or volunteering at an event near you! North America (NA)[1] Central & South America (LATAM)[2] Europe, Middle East, and Africa (EMEA)[3] India, Asia, Australia (India/APJ)[4] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q2_.28June_2009_-_August_2009.29 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q2_.28June_2009_-_August_2009.29_2 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q2_.28June_2009_-_August_2009.29_3 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q2_.28June_2009_-_August_2009.29_4 -- Planet Fedora -- In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora[1] - an aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide. Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin http://planet.fedoraproject.org --- General --- Karsten Wade presented[1] the position for relicensing the Fedora documentation (wiki, docs.fedoraproject.org, upstream guides at fedorahosted.org) from OPL to Creative Commons (CC) Attribution-Share Alike (BY SA) 3.0. Paul W. Frields outlined[2] the (shortened) development process and schedule going forward for Fedora 12. The feature freeze (July 28) rapidly approaches! Steven Fernandez asked[3] "Is Red Hat really an Open Source company?" Steven explained the background behind the post: "This question keeps cropping up every once in a while on different LUG lists where I lurk. It is a fairly established fact now in the FOSS world (or for that matter in the software world) that businesses can be both Open Source as well as commercial (ie: for profit). However, the specifics of the mechanism for doing this is still not well understood." There was a bit of discussion in the blogosphere around Microsoft's recent decision[4] to apply their Community Promise[5] (covenant not to sue) to the C# language specification and Common Language Infrastructure (CLI). Ismael Olea excerpted[6] an excited e-mail from the fedora-mono mailing list. Not everyone was quite so optimistic however. Michael DeHaan reminded[7] us that only the core language and libraries are covered under the promise, and notably absent are some of the components that would make it useful including Windows Forms and ADO. Michael added "My long held theory is that mono was never to be considered a legal threat, it is a tool to be used in a strategy of erosion ? insert a compelling technology, then provide a migration path by adding on proprietary extensions. It erodes Linux and it erodes OSS? and advocacy for it, even in purely legal/ethical ways, using just the free bits, and so forth, help enhance that position and acceptability." Alex Hudson pointed out[8] that "this is going to have a surprisingly negative effect within the community, however. It validates the arguments of people worried about Mono, and this proposed split of Mono into ?Standard bits covered by MCP? and ?Other bits not covered by MCP? is actually going to fuel the flames: inevitably, people will assume the non-MCP bits are a total patent mine-field, no matter what is actually in that area. Parts that people are quite happily shipping right now - such as ASP.net - will be targetted next by people ?anti? Mono. And for the parts covered by MCP; well, I expect not much to change: certainly, it?s not likely to convert many people to Mono." David Woodhouse shared[9] an amusing (true) story about trying to recover the cost of Windows Vista, from a brand new laptop. Michael DeHaan trialed[10] Ubuntu Netbook Remix on a netbook and found a number of areas where Fedora may be able to improve its user experience. Vincent Danen discussed[11] the idea of "responsible disclosure" in response to rumors of a mysterious OpenSSH 0-day exploit floating around the internet. Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail posted[12] an event report (and photos!) from a Fedora 11 Release Event held by the Fedora Malaysia team. Chitlesh Goorah announced[13] that the Fedora Electronic Lab will be switching the default desktop from KDE to Gnome. Scott Williams built[14] a set of RPMs containing drivers for some ATI Radeon HD video cards, from a new experimental branch that contains 3D support. "You will need both the driver and the mesa package to enjoy all the 3d stuffs. Again, experimental ? use at your own risk." http://iquaid.org/2009/07/06/why-relicense-fedora-documentation-and-wiki-content/ http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=2604 http://lonetwin.blogspot.com/2009/07/is-red-hat-really-open-source-company.html http://port25.technet.com/archive/2009/07/06/the-ecma-c-and-cli-standards.aspx http://www.microsoft.com/interop/cp/default.mspx http://olea.org/diario/archive/2009/jul-07-1.html http://michaeldehaan.net/2009/07/07/before-you-congratulate-mono/ http://www.alexhudson.com/blog/2009/07/07/mono-and-mcp/ http://www.advogato.org/person/dwmw2/diary.html?start=207 http://michaeldehaan.net/2009/07/10/the-episode-where-our-protagonist-tries-ubuntu-desktop-remix/ http://linsec.ca/blog/2009/07/09/towards-responsible-disclosure/ http://blog.kagesenshi.org/2009/07/eventreport-fedora-11-release-party-at.html http://chitlesh.wordpress.com/2009/07/10/fel-spin-switching-to-gnome-desktop-ks/ http://vwbusguy.wordpress.com/2009/07/11/free-open-source-drivers-for-newer-radeon-hd-cards/ -- Ambassadors -- In this section, we cover Fedora Ambassadors Project[1]. Contributing Writer: Larry Cafiero http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --- Release event in Vancouver, Washington --- Kevin Higgins reports that the Fedora 11 release event in Vancouver, Washington, was the first Fedora event of any kind there, and the first Linux event in Clark County since June 4th, 2005. Matt McKenzie also reports from the event as well For more on the event, visit http://crossbytes.wordpress.com/ and http://linuxknight.net/ --- Release event in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia --- Izhar Firdaus reports that on 4th July 2009, the Fedora Malaysia Team, in collaboration with Saito College held a Fedora 11 Release Event on campus in Petaling Jaya, Malaysia. Izhar says that they had more than 90 people attend. For more on the event, visit http://blog.kagesenshi.org/2009/07/eventreport-fedora-11-release-party-at.html --- Release event in Pune, India --- Nilesh Govande reports that July 5 was a celebration day at Red Hat?s Pune Marigold office ? courtesy of the Fedora 11 release. The event was totally informal where the developers and college students had a chance to interact with each other. Attendees asked questions and the answers came from actual contributors of distribution. For more on the event, visit http://www.linuxforu.com/news/its-party-time-at-the-launch-of-fedora-11/ --- Get on the map --- Want to find the nearest ambassador? How about one in Romania? Now you can. Susmit Shannigrahi reports that finding out the nearest ambassadors, which was once a tedious task, is now as simple as viewing a map. The map is at https://fedoraproject.org/membership-map and instructions on how to place yourself on the map can be found at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_ambassadors_map --- Get the word out about your F11 event --- Fedora 11 was released on Tuesday, June 9, and with it a variety of activities around the release will be forthcoming. As such, with the upcoming release of Fedora 11, this is a reminder that posting your event on Fedora Weekly News can help get the word out. Contact FWN Ambassador correspondent Larry Cafiero at lcafiero-AT-fedoraproject-DOT-org with announcements of upcoming events -- and don't forget to e-mail reports after the events as well. -- Translation -- This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n) Project[1]. Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N --- Setroubleshoot translations are inconsistent with original messages --- Domingo Becker reported presence of setroubleshoot audit strings in English inspite of complete translation in the particular language[1]. The rapid changes in the module cause the .pot files to be changed frequently. Some of the possible reasons for the inconsistency are: the strings have not been marked for translation or inclusions, the translations have not been merged when the .pot files have been updated[2]. Piotr Dr?g also informed that the translations may not have been included with the latest builds of the module[3]. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-July/msg00001.html https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-July/msg00002.html https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-July/msg00005.html --- Bosnian Translations for Fedora 11 Users' Guide is Now Available --- Arnes Arnautovi? has translated the Fedora 11 Users' Guide to Bosnian[1] and the document has been published to the Fedora Docs website by Ruediger Landmann[2]. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-July/msg00015.html https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-July/msg00022.html --- New Transifex .po Files Available for Translations --- Dimitris Glezos informed the list about the availability of updated .po files for translation of the transifex module[1]. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-July/msg00018.html --- Transifex Component in Bugzilla Removed --- The deprecated 'Transifex' component under the 'Fedora Localization' product has been removed from the Red Hat Bugzilla and all the relevant bugs have been moved to the 'Website' component[1]. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-July/msg00007.html --- New members in FLP --- Aveek Sen[1] (Hindi & Bengali-India), Igor Gorbounov[2] (Russian), Tomek Chrzczonowicz[3] (Polish) joined the Fedora Translation Project recently. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-June/msg00138.html https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-June/msg00141.html https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-July/msg00023.html -- Artwork -- In this section, we cover the Fedora Design Team[1]. Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork --- A Gallery in the Works --- M?ir?n Duffy informed[1] on @design-team about a test instance of a gallery software, something being a wishlist item for a long time, and asked about ways to use it "How do you think we should proceed with it?". Martin Sourada suggested[2] using it for a while "perhaps make it accessible to design team members and start filling it with extra wallpapers and see how it works? And hold a session after some time (perhaps a month) to discuss whether the test instance works as we'd like or not" and [[User:luya|Luya Tshimbalanga] proposed[3] some categories "Could it be used to display past Fedora release wallpapers, contributors wallpaper like Martin mentioned similar to what Fedora Forum used to have until vBulletin upgrade, sketches." http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000422.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000424.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000426.html --- New Wallpapers Coming --- Mar?a Leandro asked for feedback[1] on @design-team about a few wallpaper concepts, which were received positively, as for example by M?ir?n Duffy[2] "I think these works are a very good start start; I think the shading and coloring on mosaico2 is very suitable for a background. It's not too high-contrast, or stark, or distracting which is good for a wallpaper" along with a number of improvement ideas from various members of the team, on which Maria based a second iteration[3], also received positively[4] "This one is great. The lighting is perfect." Mar?a also showed[5] a number of wallpaper proposals she did for the Education SIG[6], which, as M?ir?n Duffy observed[7], didn't comply with the logo usage guidelines[8] "I have a concern here with the logo - we're not supposed to change the Fedora logo like that, it's really really against the guidelines". On a tangent, a sub-logo for the education SIG was created[9] by M?ir?n. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000381.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000384.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000406.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000410.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000380.html http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Education http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000397.html http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000398.html --- Continual Brainstorming for Constantine --- M?ir?n Duffy reviewed a stalled conversation about creating a theme linked to the Fedora 12 codename, a good opportunity for Paul Frields[1] and Nicu Buculei [2] to chime-in with their (to long for this report) replies on the issue. On the same 'Constantine' concept Samuele Storari explored[3] a column "maybe we can work on the Roman Art Style and not only havin focus on the mosaic, there're the basrelief or the Monumental sketch or the Bas-relief decoreting the Constantine Column" and Angella Inzinga with a coin[4] "I've been toying with a coin-imagery based idea of the campgate. [...] I'm hoping to have something up to post soon." http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000393.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000401.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000389.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000390.html -- Virtualization -- In this section, we cover discussion of Fedora virtualization technologies on the @et-mgmnt-tools-list, @fedora-xen-list, @libvirt-list and @ovirt-devel-list lists. Contributing Writer: Dale Bewley --- Enterprise Management Tools List --- This section contains the discussion happening on the et-mgmt-tools list ---- More Device Support in virt-manager ---- Cole Robinson patched[1] virt-manager to implement adding of virtual video devices in the 'Add Hardware' wizard. Cole also implemented[2] attaching serial and parallel devices. Both these features were added to virt-install[3]. Serial ports can be directed to sockets listening on remote hosts. For example: --serial udp,host=192.168.10.20:4444. That may come in handy for the F12 Hostinfo feature[4]. http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-July/msg00013.html http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-July/msg00012.html http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-July/msg00010.html http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Hostinfo ---- Xen, Windows, and ACPI ---- Guido G?nther noted[1] that virt-install disables ACPI and APIC for Windows XP guests. Adding, that it seems "that Windows XP is working fine with acpi/apic enabled which has the immediate advantage that poweroff via ACPI works as expected. So does it make sense to handle winxp the same win2k3?". Windows 2003 guests have ACPI enabled. Pasi K?rkk?inen went to the xen-devel list and confirmed[2] and relayed "Keir Fraser replied that ACPI with Windows has been working properly at least since Xen 3.1.0 days". Pasi then updated the Xen wiki page[3]. http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-July/msg00000.html http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-July/msg00007.html http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenWindowsACPI --- Fedora Virtualization List --- This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-virt list. ---- Fedora Virt Status Update ---- Mark McLoughlin posted[1] another Fedora Virt Status Update reminding that Fedora 12 is quickly approaching with the Feature Freeze on 2009-07-28. Also mentioned were: Details of a fix for "a dramatic slowdown in virtio-blk performance in F-11 guests"[2] Note on Xen Dom0 support. New wiki pages created. Detailed run-down of current virt bugs. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-July/msg00083.html https://bugzilla.redhat.com/509383 ---- New Mailing List and New Releases of libguestfs ---- Richard Jones announced[1] the creation of a new list[2] dedicated to "libguestfs/guestfish/virt-inspector discussion/development". The current release is now 1.0.57[3], but Richard is so fast that may change by the time you read this. Recent new features: virt-df - like 'df' for virtual machines New Perl library called Sys::Guestfs::Lib Now available for EPEL Tab completion in guestfish now completes files and devices Big change to the code generator Lots more regression tests guestfish commands: time, glob, more, less new commands: readdir, mknod*, umask, du, df*, head*, tail*, wc*, mkdtemp, scrub, sh, sh-lines. Debian native[4] (debootstrap, debirf) support See previous release announcement for 1.0.14 in FWN#179[5] and be sure to see the project homepage[6] for extensive usage examples. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-July/msg00107.html http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libguestfs http://www.redhat.com/archives/libguestfs/2009-July/msg00011.html http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-July/msg00088.html http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue179#New_Release_libguestfs_1.0.41 http://libguestfs.org/ ---- USB Passthrough to Virtual Machines ---- Mark McLoughlin posted instructions[1] for attaching a USB device to a guest using virt-manager in Fedora 11. This could previously (FWN#165[2]) be accomplished only on the command line. Unfortunately, those wishing to manage their iPhone or newer iPods in a guest (yours truly included), KVM does not yet support the required USB 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-June/msg00182.html http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue165#Hot_Add_USB_Device_to_Guest --- Libvirt List --- This section contains the discussion happening on the libvir-list. ---- New Release libvirt 0.6.5 --- Daniel Veillard announced[1] a new libvirt release, version 0.6.5. "This is mostly a bug fix release, though it includes some serious improvements for storage/NPIV[2] and on the OpenNebula driver[3]." New features: create storage columes on disk backend (Henrik Persson) drop of capabilities based on libcap-ng when possible (Daniel Berrange) Improvements: create and destroy NPIV support (David Allan) networking in UML driver (Daniel Berrange) HAL driver restart thread safety (Daniel Berrange) capabilities and nodeinfo APIs for LXC (Daniel Berrange) iNUMA API for VBox (Daniel Berrange) dynamically search and use kvm-img qemu-img or qcow-create (Doug Goldstein) fix qemu and kvm version parsing (Mark McLoughlin) serial number for HAL storage (Dave Allan) improve error reporting for virConnectOpen URIs (Daniel Berrange) include OS driver name in device XML (Daniel Berrange) fix qemu command flags fetching (Cole Robinson) check that qemu support -drive format= (Cole Robinson) improve emulator detection (Cole Robinson) changes to config parser to accomodate VMX syntax (Matthias Bolte) update network schemas and driver for missing elements (Satoru SATOH) avoid changing file context if not needed (Tim Waugh) skip labelling if no src path (Cole Robinson) add arm emulation if qemu-system-arm is present (C.J. Adams-Collier) libvirt 0.6.4 was released[4] on May 29. Daniel Veillard is "shooting for a slightly smaller development cycle, in order to be able to push the next version in time for Fedora 12 Beta, this means a new release at the end of July, so only a bit more than a couple of weeks for pushing the changes, I really hope we will be able to include a first version of the ESX driver and Power Hyprvisor, if it's the case I think it will be worth bumping the release name to 0.7.0." http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-July/msg00060.html http://www.libvirt.org/storage.html http://www.libvirt.org/drvone.html http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue179#New_Release_libvirt_0.6.4 ---- libvirt Repositories Mirrored on Gitorious ---- Development of libvirt recently moved[1] to git as the source control management system. Daniel Berrange announced[2] "I have created a libvirt project[3] on gitorious which has a mirror of the master branch of the libvirt.git repository. This mirror is *readonly* and updated automatically every 15 minutes. The purpose of this mirror is to allow people to easily publish their personal libvirt working repos to the world. The master upstream repository for libvirt does not change[4]". http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-July/msg00064.html http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-July/msg00252.html http://gitorious.org/libvirt http://libvirt.org/git ---- The Role of libvirtd ---- Hugh Brock described[1] a client's desire to make "libvirtd be a one-stop shop for everything they need to do on a virtualization host, including things we have traditionally held out-of-scope for libvirt. A partial list of those things would include:" In-depth multipath config management Hardware lifecycle management (power-off, reboot, etc.) HA configuration Hugh then asked "why *not* expand the scope of libvirtd to be a one-stop shop for managing a node? Is there a really good reason it shouldn't have the remaining capabilities libvirt users want?" Daniel Berrange replied[2] "This is essentially suggesting that libvirtd become a general purpose RPC layer for all remote management tasks. At which point you have just re-invented QPid/AMQP or CIM or any number of other general purpose message buses. libvirtd has a core well defined goal:" Provide a remote proxy for libvirt API calls "If you want todo anything more than that you should be considering an alternative remote management system. We already have 2 good ones to choose from supported with libvirt" QPid/AMQP, with libvirt-qpid[3] agent + your own custom agents CIM, with libvirt-CIM[4] + your own custom CIM providers "Furthermore, adding more plugins to libvirtd means we will never be able to reduce its privileges to an acceptable level, because we'll never know what capabilities the plugins may want." Hugh countered [5] "given a libvirt-qpid daemon on the node that handles RPC over QMF (for example), is there not some value in having libvirt expose a consistent API for the operations people want to do on a host regardless of whether they have directly to do with managing a virtual machine or not?" Daniel Berrange didn't "really see any value in that" "You're just putting in another abstraction layer where none need exist. Just have whatever QMF agent you write talk directly to the thing you need to manage." Hugh "I will note that when I presented the large client with the option of QMF talking to multiple agents on the node but exposing (effectively) a single API and a single connection, they seemed much happier. So perhaps the right way to attack this is with the ovirt-qpid[6] daemon we are currently working on." Daniel Veillard was[7] "a bit synpathetic to the suggestion though." "I think libvirt API should help run those virtualization nodes, I would not open the gate like completely, but if we could provide all APIs needed to manage the node on a day by day basis then I think this is not really beyond our scope. I think that netcf(FWN#170[8]) is an example of such API where we start to add admin services for the purpose of running virtualization. Things like rebooting or shutting down the node would fit in this, maybe editing a drive partition too." "Basically if we take the idea of a stripped down Node used only for virtualization, then except for operations which are first time setup options or maintainance, I think we should try to cover the requirements of normal operations of that node. To some extend that means we would step on the toes of CIM, but we would stick to a subset that's sure." http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-July/msg00179.html http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-July/msg00182.html http://libvirt.org/qpid/ http://libvirt.org/CIM/ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-July/msg00183.html http://ovirt.org/ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-July/msg00186.html http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue170#First_Release_netcf_0.0.1 ---- Storage cloning for LVM and Disk backends ---- Cole Robinson submitted[1] a patch series which "implements cloning for LVM and disk backends. Most of the functionality is already here, it just needed some reorganization to be accessible for every backend." "I verified the following scenarios produced a bootable image:" Clone within a disk pool Clone within a logical pool Clone a raw file to a disk pool Clone a disk pool to a logical pool http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-July/msg00268.html --- Fedora-Xen List --- This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-xen list. ---- Xen dom0 Forward Ported to Latest Kernel ---- Previously, Xen dom0 support in Fedora was provided by forward porting the Xensource patches from kernel 2.6.18 to the version found in the Fedora release at the time. This consumed developer resources and led to separate kernel and kernel-xen packages for a time. As of Fedora 9[1] this practice was deamed[2] untenable, and support for hosting Xen guests was dropped from Fedora. Work has since focused on creating a paravirt operations dom0[3] kernel based on the most recent upstream vanilla kernel. This work is incomplete and not expected to be done before F12 or even F13. However, experimental dom0 kernels[4] have been created for the adventurous. Pasi K?rkk?inen tells[5] us the Xen 2.6.18 patches have now been forward-ported to the current 2.6.29 and 2.6.30 kernel. "Forward-porting has been done by Novell for OpenSUSE. Novell also has a forward-port to 2.6.27 for SLES11." The patches can be found here[6] here [7] and here[8]. Pasi added "These patches are still more stable and mature than the pv_ops dom0 code.. Also, these patches have the full Xen feature set (pv_ops still lacks some features)." More history is avilable[9]. http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/en_US/sn-Virtualization.html https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2007-November/msg00106.html http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XenPvopsDom0 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue170#Experimental_Dom0_Kernel_Update --- end FWN 184 -- Pascal Calarco, Fedora Ambassador, Indiana, USA https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pcalarco -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Mon Jul 13 23:21:15 2009 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:21:15 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Failed Updates Message-ID: Due to some issues with internal mirroring, Fedora has not been able to update its tiered mirrors since Saturday due to high load averages on its master server. This has caused issues with many public mirrors not being in sync, and causing users to be unable to install updates or newer software. Our primary mirror people are aware of the issue and are working on it. While we are working on workarounds at this moment, we have no ETA of when the problem will be corrected. Currently the issue seems to primarily affect i386 users and will have the symptoms of yum or PackageKit errors in trying to install new software. To follow updates on this problem, please see ticket: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1531 -Mike From sebastian at when.com Mon Jul 20 15:25:14 2009 From: sebastian at when.com (Sebastian Dziallas) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:25:14 +0200 Subject: Test the POSSE Education Fedora Remix today! Message-ID: <4A648C5A.7070007@when.com> === Test the POSSE Education Fedora Remix today! === Have you ever wanted to contribute - or get others to contribute - to an open source education project, but never found the time to set up and get started? We've got a ready-to-go contributors' (not just code!) environment for you. The Fedora Education SIG (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Education_SIG) announces today in cooperation with POSSE (http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE_2009), a Red Hat sponsored summer program to introduce professors to the open source way of development, the release of the POSSE Education remix. The remix will be deployed immediately to the professors at POSSE and has been developed with the purpose of creating a ready-to-go development environment for contributing to educational projects inside, but also outside of the Fedora ecosystem in mind. It contains development environments, tools, documentation, and getting-started resources for contributing to a number of projects including Fedora, Mozilla, Sugar Labs and KDE Education and can be used by individuals or by teachers, students, and classrooms that want to contribute to open source projects as part of their course effort. The download is directly available, together with the SHA-1 checksum, over HTTP from here: http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/remixes/POSSE/POSSE-Education-1.iso 391a0170e09e68142cbe2c95b62b2b0c6fa628d5 POSSE-Education-1.iso Being based on the latest Fedora release, this remix provides users with a stable environment with supplemental features, such as: * an easy starting point into educational open source projects by providing pre-selected bookmarks and related IRC channels * the Sugar Platform (http://www.sugarlabs.org), as seen on the OLPC - as of 2009/07/15, all required dependencies for building sugar-jhbuild, a way of pulling and running the latest sugar bits, are included * a number of educational applications, such as the KDE Education Packages (http://edu.kde.org) or software for numerical operations - a Moodle session (http://www.moodle.org) to showcase an open source learning management system * a whole development environment including gcc, python and more, as well as Fedora's packaging tools - the Eclipse environment with plugins for Python and RPM, but also LaTeX and documentation purposes A getting started guide is also available and contains instructions for various applications and communities: https://fedorahosted.org/education/wiki/GetStarted If you are interested in getting in touch with the developers, other users or would just like to submit feedback, please join our mailing list here: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-education-list. If you are interested in using this for your own development or in your classroom, or have an open source education project you'd like to see included in the next version, please let us know and we'll get you started. If you report bugs in bugzilla, please make sure to make them depend on our tracker: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=EducationTracker Thanks, Sebastian Dziallas for the Education SIG From pcalarco at nd.edu Mon Jul 20 18:05:55 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:05:55 -0400 Subject: Fedora Weekly News 185 Message-ID: <4A64B203.4060509@nd.edu> * 1 Fedora Weekly News Issue 185 o 1.1 Announcements + 1.1.1 Fedora 12 (Constantine) + 1.1.2 Upcoming Events o 1.2 Planet Fedora + 1.2.1 General o 1.3 Ambassadors + 1.3.1 Event in Tripura, India + 1.3.2 Get on the map + 1.3.3 Get the word out about your F11 event o 1.4 QualityAssurance + 1.4.1 Test Days + 1.4.2 Weekly meetings + 1.4.3 F12 Alpha blocker bug review meeting + 1.4.4 Updated list of components for priority triage + 1.4.5 Xfce spin testing + 1.4.6 What to do with Fedora 11 target bugs + 1.4.7 QA meeting time/date adjustment + 1.4.8 Anaconda triage project progress + 1.4.9 Bugzilla semantics debate o 1.5 Artwork + 1.5.1 Schedule for Fedora 12 + 1.5.2 Wallpapers o 1.6 Virtualization + 1.6.1 Enterprise Management Tools List # 1.6.1.1 Good Bye to ET-Mgmt-Tools List + 1.6.2 Fedora Virtualization List # 1.6.2.1 Virtual Machine Disk Setup Tips + 1.6.3 Libguestfs List # 1.6.3.1 New Release libguestfs 1.0.59 # 1.6.3.2 New Hypervisor Migration Tool virt-v2v + 1.6.4 Libvirt List # 1.6.4.1 Split RPC Dispatching from Remote API Handlers # 1.6.4.2 Allow QEMU VMs to be Run Unprivileged # 1.6.4.3 cgroups Support in QEMU Driver # 1.6.4.4 Experimental Tunnelled Migration - Fedora Weekly News Issue 185 - Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 185[1] for the week ending July 19, 2009. Highlights from this week's issue include an overview of feature details for Fedora 12 (Constantine) in our Announcements beat, followed by news from all over the Fedora Planet, including instructions on how to install Chromium (the open source version of Google's Chrome browser) on Fedora, thoughts on the Association for Competitive Technology's recent accusations against the European Commission "of having a bias in favor of open source", and a review of Hannah Montana Linux, along with much more. This week's Ambassadors beat features an event report from Tripura, India and highlights the worldwide Fedora Ambassador map -- find your closest Ambassadors! The Quality Assurance beat features details on the second upcoming Fit and Finish Test Day, to focus on power management and suspend/resume in Fedora with opportunities to participate in the testing. Also a review of this past week's meetings, Fedora 12 bug blocker review and Fedora 11 bug triage. The Art beat this week features details on the Fedora 12 design schedule and also more detail on wallpaper development that FWN has reported on in recent weeks. This week's issue rounds out with much Fedora virtualization news goodness, including details on transition from the Enterprise Management Tools lists, some very helpful Fedora virtual machine disk setup tips, and details of new versions of libguestfs and virt-v2v. This is but a sampling of this week's content and we hope you enjoy this week's issue! If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[2]. We welcome reader feedback: fedora-news-list at redhat.com The Fedora News team is collaborating with Marketing and Docs to come up with a new exciting platform for disseminating news and views on Fedora, tentatively called Fedora Insight. If you are interested, please join the list and let us know how you would like to assist with this effort. FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Adam Williamson 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue185 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join -- Announcements -- In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project[1] [2] [3]. Contributing Writer: Max Spevack 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/ 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/ 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events --- Fedora 12 (Constantine) --- The main topic on the announcement lists this past week was Fedora 12's feature process. John Poelstra[1] sent out several emails about features. An initial note[2] was sent on July 14th listing feature pages that were in need of an update, and that list included 15 features. On July 16th, a second email was sent, requesting that the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee drop the features[3] that had not been updated. The list of 15 had by this point been narrowed down to only 5, meaning that 2/3 of the features were updated as requested. By July 17th, all but 3 of the 15 features had been updated[4]. As FWN goes to press, the feature freeze is scheduled for July 28th[5]. Please make sure that your Fedora 12 features[6] are in the proper status and ready for FESCo[7]. 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Poelstra 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-July/msg00009.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-July/msg00010.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-July/msg00012.html 5. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-July/msg00014.html 6. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:FeatureAcceptedF12 7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:FeatureReadyForFesco --- Upcoming Events --- Consider attending or volunteering at an event near you! * North America (NA)[1] * Central & South America (LATAM)[2] * Europe, Middle East, and Africa (EMEA)[3] * India, Asia, Australia (India/APJ)[4] 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q2_.28June_2009_-_August_2009.29 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q2_.28June_2009_-_August_2009.29_2 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q2_.28June_2009_-_August_2009.29_3 4. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q2_.28June_2009_-_August_2009.29_4 -- Planet Fedora -- In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora[1] - an aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide. Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin 1. http://planet.fedoraproject.org --- General --- James Morris mentioned[1] how Red Hat has handled a recent 2.6.30 kernel null pointer vulnerability, and who it affects (probably no RHEL customers). Luca Foppiano described[2] how to configure Twinkle, the QT VoIP client, to work with Fedora Talk. Peter Hutterer continued[3] the XI2 Recipes series with "the common input events and the data they include". Peter also explained[4][5] some additional details about new XLib APIs to handle cookies and associated data. Paul W. Frields wrote[6] about configuring and optimizing postfix for remote/disconnected operation. Kevin Higgins posted[7] photos from the Vancouver Fedora 11 Release Party. Michael Tiemann questioned[8] the Association for Competitive Technology's recent accusations against the European Commission "of having a bias in favor of open source." Greg DeKoenigsberg suggested[9] that "creating a strong 'patch culture'" for Spacewalk (and by extension, open source projects in general) can be accomplished by setting a strong example. "People behave as they see others behave." Luke Macken posted[10] some pretty pictures of Fedora 9 package update metrics. Seth Vidal came up with[11] a list of "critical path" packages "that require special care when updating in rawhide and releases". For more information, see the Critical Path Packages Proposal. Daniel Walsh added[12] another SELinux how-to, to the ongoing series, this time fixing a "denial message about vpnc_t trying to read a file labeled user_home_t." Matthew Garrett chimed in[13] about RMS' recent comments regarding the "cult of the virgin of emacs". M?ir?n Duffy displayed[14] mockups of a net system-config-selinux dialog mockup. Marc Ferguson instructed[15] how to install Chromium (the Open Source project version of Google's Chrome web browser) on Fedora 11. James Laska called out[16] for anyone interested in joining the Fedora QA efforts, and pointed out some exemplary guides on the Fedora Wiki to assist in debugging particular projects. Karsten Wade explained[17] some background around the Fedora Infrastructure team's implementation of Zikula, a new content management system that will be used for various Fedora teams. Andrew Vermilya Jamison reviewed[18] KDE4 on Fedora, from the perspective of a Gnome user. Julian Aloofi reviewed[19] Hannah Montana Linux. Scary. 1. http://blog.namei.org/2009/07/18/a-brief-note-on-the-2630-kernel-null-pointer-vulnerability/ 2. http://blog.foppiano.org/2009/07/12/twinkle-configuration-howto/ 3. http://who-t.blogspot.com/2009/07/xi2-recipes-part-4.html 4. http://who-t.blogspot.com/2009/07/xlib-cookie-events.html 5. http://who-t.blogspot.com/2009/07/xi2-and-xlib-cookies.html 6. http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=2616 7. http://crossbytes.wordpress.com/2009/07/13/vancouver-fedora-11-release-party-pictures-walking-with-the-lions/ 8. http://opensource.org/node/447 9. http://gregdek.livejournal.com/51507.html 10. http://lewk.org/blog/f9-updates.html 11. http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2009/07/14/critical-path-package-owners/ 12. http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/29790.html 13. http://mjg59.livejournal.com/113408.html 14. http://mairin.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/system-config-selinux-mocks/ 15. http://www.fergytech.com/2009/07/a-chromium-rpm-on-fedora-11/ 16. http://jlaska.livejournal.com/5693.html 17. http://iquaid.org/2009/07/16/fedora-zikula-infrastructure-of-freedom-ftw/ 18. http://blogs.andyjamison.com/andy/?p=85 19. http://julianaloofi.wordpress.com/2009/07/17/distro-review-hm-linux/ -- Ambassadors -- In this section, we cover Fedora Ambassadors Project[1]. Contributing Writer: Larry Cafiero 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --- Event in Tripura, India --- Shakthi Kannan conducted a Fedora workshop ("GNUtsav") at National Institute of Technology (NIT), Agartala, Tripura, India on July 18-19, 2009. Shakthi says, "I would like to thank the Fedora project for sponsoring the event. Special thanks to the student volunteers who worked hard in organizing the event. Mention must be made for the support of the faculty, Prof. Swapan Debbarma, Prof. Anupam Jamatia ("ajnr" on freenode), and Prof. Dwijen Rudrapal." Shakthi's presentation sessions included: * i-want-2-do-project. tell-me-wat-2-do-fedora. * Badam Halwa of Embedded Systems * di-git-ally managing love letters * Fedora Electronic Lab (demo) * Packaging RPM -- Red hot, Paneer (butter) Masala The presentations are available from: http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads.html As customary, here are few photos that Shakthi took during the trip: http://www.shakthimaan.com/Mambo/gallery/album57 --- Get on the map --- Want to find the nearest ambassador? How about one in Romania? Now you can. Susmit Shannigrahi reports that finding out the nearest ambassadors, which was once a tedious task, is now as simple as viewing a map. The map is at https://fedoraproject.org/membership-map and instructions on how to place yourself on the map can be found at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_ambassadors_map --- Get the word out about your F11 event --- Fedora 11 was released on Tuesday, June 9, and with it a variety of activities around the release will be forthcoming. As such, with the recent release of Fedora 11, this is a reminder that posting your event on Fedora Weekly News can help get the word out. Contact FWN Ambassador correspondent Larry Cafiero at lcafiero-AT-fedoraproject-DOT-org with announcements of upcoming events -- and don't forget to e-mail reports after the events as well. -- QualityAssurance -- In this section, we cover the activities of the QA team[1]. Contributing Writer: Adam Williamson 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA --- Test Days --- There was no Test Day last week. No Test Day is scheduled on the main track next week. However, the new Fit and Finish[1] Test Day track will be holding its second event[2], on power management and suspend/resume. The Test Day page already includes several test scenarios, and a live CD for testing will soon be available. The Fit and Finish project is a great effort to improve the details of the Fedora project, so please show up to support this event! The Test Day will be held on 2009-07-21 (Tuesday) in IRC #fedora-fit-and-finish (note this is not the same channel where main track Test Days take place). If you would like to propose a main track Test Day for the Fedora 12 cycle, please contact the QA team via email or IRC, or file a ticket in QA Trac[3]. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fit_and_Finish 2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-07-21_Fit_and_Finish:Batteries_and_Suspend 3. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ --- Weekly meetings --- The QA group weekly meeting[1] was held on 2009-07-15. The full log is available[2]. James Laska reported that he had filed tickets to track the creation of the three Debugging pages identified as desirable by Christopher Beland, and would mail the list to try and attract volunteers to work on the pages. James also noted he is still working on the Goals page[3], using a personal space draft[4], but was not yet ready to go into production with it. James and Jesse Keating reported on the revisions to the Fedora 12 schedule in terms of QA and release engineering. The latest revised schedules are available: QA[5] and release engineering[6]. James reminded the group about the then-forthcoming Alpha Blocker Bug Day, which would be held on 2009-07-17. Adam Williamson suggested reviewing F12Blocker bugs (which block only the final release) to see if they should be promoted to blocking the Alpha release also. James brought up the question of the criteria for Alpha blocker bugs. After some discussion, there was general agreement to work on the basis of considering only high-severity bugs in critical path components (as defined by the Critical Path Packages Proposal[7]) as Alpha blockers. James mentioned that the Fedora 12 Test Day schedule is still currently lightly populated, but he and Adam have several events planned which have not yet been set down to specific dates. Will Woods reported on the progress of the AutoQA project. He has now completed writing the test cases for the Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan[8]. He is now starting to work on writing automated tests for these cases, using autotest. He pointed out that progress information can also be found in AutoQA trac[9]. Finally, the group discussed changing the meeting day and/or time. Adam suggested creating a matrix of possible times and having each interested member fill out the times at which they are available, as has been done by other groups in the past. James offered to create the matrix and notify the mailing list so that people could fill it in once it was ready. J?hann Gu?mundsson pointed out that the QA group could potentially be affected by the ongoing question about the use of Fedora trademarks in non-official spins, as it frequently generates non-official spins for use in Test Days. The group agreed to monitor this on an ongoing basis. The Bugzappers group weekly meeting[10] was held on 2009-07-14. The full log is available[11]. Richard June apologized for not having asked Brennan Ashton for an update on the triage metrics project. The group reviewed Niels Haase's proposed expanded list of priority triage components[12]. Edward Kirk thought that some of the components were not truly critical. The list was tabled for review when Niels could be present at a meeting. The group discussed the latest version of Matej Cepl's greasemonkey script. It seems to have been deployed by several triagers with no problems so far. Other topics were tabled due to the absence of several group members for various reasons. The next QA weekly meeting will be held on 2009-07-22 at 1600 UTC in #fedora-meeting, and the next Bugzappers weekly meeting on 2009-07-21 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20090715 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Goals 4. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jlaska/Draft 5. http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-quality-tasks.html 6. http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-releng-tasks.html 7. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Critical_Path_Packages_Proposal 8. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Rawhide_Acceptance_Test_Plan 9. https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/israwhidebroken.com 10. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings 11. http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-07-14/fedora-meeting.2009-07-14-15.05.log.html 12. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Arxs/CPCL --- F12 Alpha blocker bug review meeting --- John Poelstra announced[1] the first blocker bug review meeting for Fedora 12, to be held on 2009-07-17, mainly to review blocker bug status for the upcoming Alpha release. Later, Adam Williamson posted a recap of the meeting[2], recording that it had been well attended and had been able to review the whole F12 Alpha and main blocker lists, remove some from the lists, promote some to block the Alpha release, and check on the development status of several bugs. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00239.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00347.html --- Updated list of components for priority triage --- Niels Haase announced[1] that he had updated his proposed expansion of the list of priority components for the Bugzappers group to focus on triaging[2], based on the Critical Path Packages Proposal, as previously approved at Bugzappers meetings. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00255.html 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Arxs/CPCL --- Xfce spin testing --- Adam Miller announced[1] that, he would be building a test live image with the Xfce desktop roughly each week, and would appreciate testing and reporting of problems. He also included a link to the first build. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00251.html --- What to do with Fedora 11 target bugs --- John Poelstra pointed out[1] that the F11Target bug[2] was still open (and depending on 321 bugs), and asked what people thought should be done about it. Niels Haase suggested[3] moving all that had been triaged to F12Target. Mark McLoughlin suggested[4] having F11Target block F12Target, effectively moving the bugs to F12Target wholesale. Matthias Clasen opined that "I don't think it makes sense to accumulate hundreds of bugs on the target tracker, if they only end up getting pushed from release to release"[5]. Adam Williamson agreed, and suggested[6] just closing the tracker bug, as had been done for Fedora 9 and Fedora 10. No final decision was yet reached. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00259.html 2. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446451 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00260.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00265.html 5. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00267.html 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00270.html --- QA meeting time/date adjustment --- As discussed at the weekly meeting, James Laska announced[1] that he had created a matrix to track possible new times and days for the QA group weekly meeting, and asked everyone interested in attending the meetings to fill out the matrix with the days and times when they are available. 1. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00304.html --- Anaconda triage project progress --- Adam Williamson reported[1] on the progress of the ongoing project to integrate anaconda triage into the Bugzappers group and workflow. He thanked Andy Lindeberg for her efforts in joining the mailing list, weekly meetings and IRC channel, and in working to codify the current workflow used to triage anaconda bugs. He recorded that meeting and email discussions had revealed little in the way of fundamental conflicts between the official Bugzappers workflow[2] and the Anaconda workflow[3]. He had therefore modified the components and triagers page[4] to list the Anaconda workflow page as the special instructions for triaging anaconda, and note that additional triagers are now welcome for anaconda if someone has a burning desire to work on it, although Andy is currently covering the area very effectively. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00308.html 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/AnacondaBugWorkflow 4. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Components_and_Triagers --- Bugzilla semantics debate --- Adam Williamson asked the list[1] about a question he had been discussing with Andy Lindeberg, regarding the semantics of the NEW and ASSIGNED states in Bugzilla. He proposed the use of a keyword (instead of the ASSIGNED state) to indicate a bug has been triaged, and either removing the ASSIGNED state entirely, or noting in the workflow page that it has no real function and is effectively equivalent to NEW. This led to an enthusiastic debate, with many other proposals made, although all seemed to agree that the current state of ASSIGNED meaning that a bug has been triaged is not optimal. No final consensus was yet reached on what changes, if any, to propose to the configuration of Bugzilla and/or the official workflow. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00309.html -- Artwork -- In this section, we cover the Fedora Design Team[1]. Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork --- Schedule for Fedora 12 --- After an IRC conference with the Design Team leader M?ir?n Duffy and Paul Frields, John Poelstra posted[1] on the mailing list a schedule[2] for Fedora 12 "Some of the key ideas for the planning and schedule for this release are to focus on the importance of the wallpaper and iteratively improve it.... making sure it is in the alpha and then releasing updated packaged versions in rawhide each week." The debate heated a bit when William Jon McCann arrogantly repeated[3] for a number of items "Not relevant to the desktop spin", prompting a reply[4] from M?ir?n "This schedule is for the design team, not for the desktop spin. The KDE spin does need this splash, so we help produce it for them. We work on designs for all of Fedora, all spins including KDE and Electronics Lab and EDU, as well as the main website and various web applications." 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000438.html 2. http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-12/f-12-design-tasks.html 3. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000468.html 4. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000469.html --- Wallpapers --- Following an IRC session with M?ir?n Duffy and Nicu Buculei, Mar?a Leandro posted[1] a set of *very cute* design proposals for the Education/Kids wallpaper. She also blogged[2] about the designs. Mar?a also advanced[3] a photo-manipulation concept based on the 'Constantine' theme. After a round of inquiries[4] she cleared[5] the license of the source photos. However, as M?ir?n Duffy observed[6], a photomanipulation is not preferred as default "We would much prefer a vector-based graphic as the default wallpaper. As Mar?a said, her XCF was 69 MB. This would make it very difficult for others to work on the file." 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000477.html 2. http://tatica.org/2009/07/15/wallpapers-fedora-para-ninos/ 3. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000447.html 4. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000452.html 5. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000474.html 6. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000463.html -- Virtualization -- In this section, we cover discussion of Fedora virtualization technologies on the @et-mgmnt-tools-list, @fedora-virt, @fedora-xen-list, @libguestfs, @libvirt-list, @virt-tools-list, and @ovirt-devel-list lists. Contributing Writer: Dale Bewley --- Enterprise Management Tools List --- This section contains the discussion happening on the et-mgmt-tools list ---- Good Bye to ET-Mgmt-Tools List ---- Daniel Berrange announced[1] the end of life for the et-mgmt-tools list and the birth of the @virt-tools-list. "In retrospect this was a really bad choice of names for a mailing list and causes endless confusion for people wrt what to discuss where. Most of the emerging technology projects have lists of their own (image:Echo-package-16px.pngcobbler[2][3], image:Echo-package-16px.pngaugeas[4], image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibguestfs[5], image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt[6]) and it is about time that image:Echo-package-16px.pngvirt-manager and friends joined them." "To that end we have created a new mailing list 'virt-tools-list'[7]. This will be the new home for all developer & user discussions relating to the following applications:" * virt-manager * virt-viewer * virt-install * virt-clone * virt-image * virt-convert 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-July/msg00046.html 2. http://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler 3. http://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler-devel 4. http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/augeas-devel 5. http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libguestfs 6. http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libvir-list 7. http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/virt-tools-list --- Fedora Virtualization List --- This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-virt list. ---- Virtual Machine Disk Setup Tips ---- Rich Mahn recognized[1] "that the best performance for virtual disks is with the backing storage on the host being a parititon or LV. Since I want some flexibility I will use LVs, with virtio disks on most of the VMs." But Rich had several questions (paraphrased below) about how best to configure the backing stores for virtual machines and the disks within them. Daniel Berrange provided some answers (also paraphrased below). * Q: If each VM needs three file systems: /boot, root, and swap. "Is it better to create three LVs (each) on the hosts, and treat it as three separate disks on the VMs?" A: "There's no point separating /boot & root onto separate virtual disks." "The only separation I'd do is for the OS system disks, vs application data disks..." This makes it easier to provision a new VM with the latest disto and reassign the data disk to the new guest. * Q: "Do I get better performance/stability by NOT using lvm on the VMs?" A: "LVM makes is easier to resize guest FS. eg add a second disk to the guest, format it as a LVM PV and add it to your VG. That's pretty much only wayto add more capacity on a running guest." * Q: "Do I get the best performance/stability by creating an LV for each disk I need, and then NOT partitioning it on the VM, but using the whole disk for a file system?" A: "Anaconda will refuse to install onto a raw disk, it mandates partitioning. Second point is that not using a partition table can cause unexpected problems..." * Q: "Are these issues too miniscule in their effects that I probably shouldn't even be worrying about" trying to avoid using partitions and LVM? A: "That's certainly my opinion. Sure you get some performance but you loose the great administrative flexibility of LVM." 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-July/msg00141.html --- Libguestfs List --- This section contains the discussion happening on the libguestfs list. ---- New Release libguestfs 1.0.59 ---- Richard Jones announced[1] the release of image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibguestfs 1.0.59. New Features: * Support for Linux extended attributes. * Allow guestfish to be controlled remotely, so you can use one guestfish instance in a long-running shell script. * Support for reiserfs. * New function 'guestfs_zfile' -- 'file' inside compressed files. * New guestfish command 'reopen' -- reopen guestfish connection. * guestfish -x option (echo commands). * New function 'guestfs_version' to get the library version. See previous release announcement for 1.0.57 in FWN#184[2] and be sure to see the project homepage[3] for extensive usage examples. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/libguestfs/2009-July/msg00023.html 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue184#New_Mailing_List_and_New_Releases_of_libguestfs 3. http://libguestfs.org/ ---- New Hypervisor Migration Tool virt-v2v ---- Matthew Booth posted[1] his "initial thoughts on the design for the v2v tool". This tool will be used to implement the planned Fedora 12 feature "Xen to KVM Migration"[2]. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/libguestfs/2009-July/msg00024.html 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Xen_to_KVM_migration --- Libvirt List --- This section contains the discussion happening on the libvir-list. ---- Split RPC Dispatching from Remote API Handlers ---- Daniel Berrange posted[1] a set of 9 patches. "The current libvirtd remote protocol dispatch code is written in such a way that assumes the only incoming messages from clients are method calls. This makes it very hard to support data streams. This patch series does an incrmental refactoring of alot of code to allow data streams to be easily wired in." 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-July/msg00303.html ---- Allow QEMU VMs to be Run Unprivileged ---- Daniel Berrange submitted[1] a patch which "makes it such that the" privileged "libvirtd daemon can run unprivileged QEMU guests. The default remains unchanged with QEMU running as root:root, but the package maintainer can request an alternative default user at build time, and the sysadmin can also override this at install time with /etc/libvirt/qemu.conf." This patch is in support of the planned Fedora 12 feature "VirtPrivileges"[2]. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-July/msg00390.html 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtPrivileges ---- cgroups Support in QEMU Driver ---- Daniel Berrange added[1] "cgroups[2] support to the QEMU driver." 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-July/msg00435.html 2. http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/cgroups.txt ---- Experimental Tunnelled Migration ---- Chris Lalancette posted[1] "the current version of the tunnelled migration patch, based upon Daniel Berrange's generic datastream work. In order to use this work, you must first grab danpb's data-streams git branch[2]". Chris's work on secure guest migration was covered in FWN #168[3]. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-July/msg00433.html 2. http://gitorious.org/~berrange/libvirt/staging 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue168#Secure_Guest_Migration_Draft_Patch --- end FWN #185 --- Pascal Calarco, Fedora Ambassador, Indiana, USA https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pcalarco From metherid at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 16:00:47 2009 From: metherid at gmail.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:30:47 +0530 Subject: Omega (Pug) Release - Fedora Remix Message-ID: <4A69DAAF.1030908@gmail.com> Hi Omega is a completely free and open source Linux based operating system and a Fedora remix suitable for desktop and laptop users. It is a installable Live CD for regular PC (i686 architecture) systems. It has all the features of Fedora and number of additional software including multimedia players and codecs by default. Omega plays any multimedia content (including MP3) or commercial DVD's out of the box. Omega (Pug) release is a remix of Fedora 11 and includes all the updates till Friday July 24th 2009 from Fedora and RPM Fusion repositories. Download it from http://omega.dgplug.org/ Rahul From pcalarco at nd.edu Tue Jul 28 00:21:06 2009 From: pcalarco at nd.edu (Pascal Calarco) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:21:06 -0400 Subject: Fedora Weekly News 186 Message-ID: <4A6E4472.6060908@nd.edu> * 1 Fedora Weekly News Issue 186 o 1.1 Planet Fedora + 1.1.1 General + 1.1.2 POSSE Roundup o 1.2 QualityAssurance + 1.2.1 Test Days + 1.2.2 Weekly meetings + 1.2.3 F12 Alpha blocker bug review meeting + 1.2.4 Xfce spin testing + 1.2.5 KDE QA tester request + 1.2.6 Bugzilla semantics debate o 1.3 Translation + 1.3.1 F12 Translation Team Schedule Proposal + 1.3.2 Translation Quick Start Guide Updated + 1.3.3 Publican Version of Minor Fedora Documents Made Available + 1.3.4 New Members in FLP o 1.4 Artwork + 1.4.1 Evaluating the Gallery + 1.4.2 A Small Icon Request + 1.4.3 Fedora 12 Theming Progress o 1.5 Virtualization + 1.5.1 Fedora Virtualization List # 1.5.1.1 New Release libguestfs 1.0.64 # 1.5.1.2 Swap Use in Guests # 1.5.1.3 Clustering libvirt Hosts + 1.5.2 Virtualization Tools List # 1.5.2.1 Virtual Machine Cloning # 1.5.2.2 Virt Manager UI Rework # 1.5.2.3 Support for Processor Affinity # 1.5.2.4 Virt What? - Fedora Weekly News Issue 186 - Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 186[1] for the week ending July 26, 2009. In this week's issue, we begin with news from the Fedora Planet, including tips on running Fedora 11 on an Intel Mac, tethering Fedora 11 to an iPhone, and another in the series of XI2 Recipes. Quality Assurance reports on last week's Fit and Finish test day on power management and suspend/resume, as well as much detail on QA-related weekly meetings. Translation brings us detail of the Fedora 12 Translation Schedule, a new Translation Quick Start Guide, as well as new Publican version of some Fedora documentation In Artwork/Design news, testing details of the new gallery and an update on Fedora 12 theming, amongst other topics. This issue rounds out with Fedora virtualization goodness, including details on new versions of libguestfs, virt-what and redesigns of the virt-manager UI, as well as details on how to cluster libvirt hosts. We hope you enjoy this week's FWN! If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[2]. We welcome reader feedback: fedora-news-list at redhat.com The Fedora News team is collaborating with Marketing and Docs to come up with a new exciting platform for disseminating news and views on Fedora, called Fedora Insight. If you are interested, please join the list and let us know how you would like to assist with this effort. FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Adam Williamson 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue186 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join -- Planet Fedora -- In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora[1] - an aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide. Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin 1. http://planet.fedoraproject.org --- General --- Greg DeKoenigsberg responded[1] to slashdot[2] to correct what Nicholas Negroponte actually said regarding the Sugar UI and OLPC. "But what we did...was we had Sugar do the power management, we had Sugar do the wireless management -- it became sort of an omelet. The Bios talked directly with Sugar, so Sugar became a bit of a mess. It should have been much cleaner, like the way they offer [it] on a stick now." Jef Spaleta was excited[3] by the news that all of Launchpad has finally been open sourced by Canonical. Harish Pillay questioned[4] Microsoft's true motives behind contributing GPL patches to the Linux kernel. Martin Sourada quoted[5] Linus' response to the general feeling of hatred toward Microsoft in the Linux community. Daniel Walsh explained[6] how the SELinux "unconfined" domain works. Peter Hutterer added[7] part 5 to the XI2 Recipes series, explaining "grabs" and part 6[8], showing examples dealing with the client pointer. Steven Moix provided[9] a few tips for natively running Fedora 11 on an Intel Mac. Jesse Keating described[10] how to tether an iPhone to Fedora over bluetooth, for a truly wires-free internet experience. 1. http://gregdek.livejournal.com/52052.html 2. http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/07/20/1628228/Negroponte-Sees-Sugar-As-OLPCs-Biggest-Mistake?art_pos=3 3. http://jspaleta.livejournal.com/45216.html 4. http://harishpillay.livejournal.com/162161.html 5. http://mso-chronicles.blogspot.com/2009/07/true-meaning-of-open.html 6. http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/30084.html 7. http://who-t.blogspot.com/2009/07/xi2-recipes-part-5.html 8. http://who-t.blogspot.com/2009/07/xi2-recipes-part-6.html 9. http://www.alphatek.info/2009/07/22/natively-run-fedora-11-on-an-intel-mac/ 10. http://jkeating.livejournal.com/75270.html --- POSSE Roundup --- The Professors Open Source Summer Experience[1] just finished its Summer 2009 session, and here is a roundup of some of the Planet posts from the event. * http://gregdek.livejournal.com/52300.html * http://blog.melchua.com/2009/07/21/posse-monday-how-seneca-got-involved/ * http://blog.melchua.com/2009/07/21/posse-monday-helping-students-find-projects-that-make-them-come-alive/ * http://blog.melchua.com/2009/07/22/posse-tuesday-contributor-types-and-making-safe-spaces/ * http://blog.melchua.com/2009/07/22/posse-wednesday-our-classroom-setup/ * http://michaeldehaan.net/2009/07/24/fedora-has-a-posse/ 1. http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE -- Quality Assurance -- In this section, we cover the activities of the QA team[1]. Contributing Writer: Adam Williamson 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA --- Test Days --- There was no main track Test Day last week. The Fit and Finish project's Test Day track continued with its second Test Day, on power management and suspend/resume[1]. The event was a success, with several testers turning out, many bugs filed, and some fixed during the day or soon afterwards, especially relating to laptops with multiple batteries. No Test Day is scheduled for next week. If you would like to propose a main track Test Day for the Fedora 12 cycle, please contact the QA team via email or IRC, or file a ticket in QA Trac[2]. 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-07-21_Fit_and_Finish:Batteries_and_Suspend 2. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ --- Weekly meetings --- The QA group weekly meeting[1] was held on 2009-07-22. The full log is available[2]. James Laska reported that he had published a blog post asking people to help with the process of writing Debugging pages[3]. Adam Williamson mentioned that he had looked into creating some of the desired pages, but did not know what kind of information was actually required for any of the components concerned. Jesse Keating suggested doing an informal interview-style session with maintainers to discover what information is needed, and then having QA take responsibility for turning that information into a finished Wiki page. James Laska had created a meeting time matrix[4] for the purpose of re-scheduling the QA meeting to make it possible for as many group members as possible to attend. The group agreed that the new meeting day and time should be Mondays at 16:00 UTC, moved from Wednesdays at 16:00 UTC. James Laska noted that a Fedora 12 Alpha blocker bug review meeting was scheduled for Friday 2009-07-24. It was agreed that Adam Williamson would send out an announcement of the meeting, and James would send out a recap after it had finished. Jesse Keating mentioned it would be good to do some Rawhide install testing prior to the meeting, but a combination of two significant bugs was preventing almost any Rawhide install from working. James Laska explained that a test compose for Fedora 12 Alpha was scheduled for 2009-07-29, and Liam Li had made an announcement requesting help on install testing[5]. Jesse Keating pointed out that it would not be easy for the general public to take part, as the test compose would not be generally distributed. This led to another long discussion about the practicality of distributing time-critical test composes to the public. No definite conclusion was reached, but a tentative agreement was made to look into a system which would allow access to such composes to members of the QA group in FAS. J?hann Gu?mundsson noted that there were some problems with Dracut, the nash/mkinitrd replacement being introduced as a feature in Fedora 12. It has no implementation plan by which the progress of the feature can be externally measured, and no detailed contingency plan beyond 'revert to mkinitrd'. J?hann agreed to contact the feature mantainer, Harald Hoyer, to help develop a full test plan and contingency plan. Will Woods reported on the progress of the AutoQA project. He has now automated the first four test cases in the Rawhide Acceptance Test Plan[6], and is now working on automating the installation tests. He noted that separate i386, x86-64 and PowerPC test hosts would be necessary for some tests, and that PPC might be difficult in the absence of the Fedora standard libvirt virtualization framework on that platform. Jesse Keating worried that the installation tests may be adding too much complexity to the system, and asked how much faster the process would be if only repository level tests were considered. Adam Williamson pointed out that the full set of repository level tests were the ones that had already been automated. Will promised that they would be updated to send the results somewhere publicly accessible soon. Sebastian Dziallas brought up the topic of a Test Day for the Sugar on a Stick project[7] - essentially for the integration of Sugar with a stock Fedora distribution. It was agreed that the SoaS project would host the Test Day themselves using the SOP created for this purpose[8]. A tentative date of 2009-09-03 was agreed for the test day. The Bugzappers group weekly meeting[9] was held on 2009-07-21. The full log is available[10]. No-one had heard from Brennan Ashton regarding the status of the triage metrics project. Adam Williamson agreed to contact him by email to find out the current status, and ask if he would be interested in having a co-maintainer on the project, in the interest of smoother development. The group discussed the current draft of the critical path-based triage component list[11]. There was a general feeling that the list was very long and might contain components that, practically speaking, would not benefit hugely from triage. It also seemed to contain at least some binary (rather than source) package names, while Bugzilla is based on source package names. Niels Haase and Matej Cepl volunteered to adjust the list to use source package names, and break it up into groups for ease of digestion, for further review at next week's meeting. Adam Williamson gave an update on the status of the kernel bug triage project. He admitted it had not progressed very far as he had been focussing on anaconda triage. He outlined a plan under which a volunteer would, as a test, triage bugs on one particular component of the kernel, to see if the process could be made to work. Edward Kirk thought the proposal a sound one, and Adam agreed to try and put in into practice in the next week. Finally, the group discussed the 'Bugzilla Semantics' proposal Adam Williamson had made to the mailing list, involving various ways in which the triage process could be tweaked and the use of the NEW and ASSIGNED states changed. Initially discussion was in favour of retaining the status quo, but Jesse Keating and Josh Boyer made it clear that the development groups they were involved in used ASSIGNED in a different way to its use by the Bugzappers group, and they would prefer if Bugzappers marked bugs as having been triaged in some other way, so their groups could take advantage of the triage process. It became clear that there would be both benefits and costs involved in changing the triage process. Adam Williamson agreed to send a follow-up email to the mailing list to summarize the current state of the debate, and to see if a consensus could be found on a future path. The next QA weekly meeting will be held on 2009-07-27 at 1600 UTC in #fedora-meeting, and the next Bugzappers weekly meeting on 2009-07-28 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20090722 3. http://jlaska.livejournal.com/5693.html 4. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA_Meeting_Matrix 5. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00429.html 6. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Rawhide_Acceptance_Test_Plan 7. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick 8. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_test_day_SOP 9. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings 10. http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-07-21/fedora-meeting.2009-07-21-15.02.log.html 11. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Arxs/CPCL --- F12 Alpha blocker bug review meeting --- Adam Williamson announced[1] the second blocker bug review meeting for Fedora 12, to be held on 2009-07-24, mainly to review blocker bug status for the upcoming Alpha release. Later, James Laska posted a recap of the meeting[2]. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00472.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00498.html --- Xfce spin testing --- Adam Miller announced[1] the second test live image with the Xfce desktop, and would appreciate testing and reporting of problems. He noted that the known bugs in Anaconda at the time of the compose may make the image very difficult to install, but it should be usable on most hardware as a live boot. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00391.html --- KDE QA tester request --- Kevin Kofler posted a request[1] for volunteers to help with KDE testing. He noted that the requirements for testers were quite low, and asked interested people to reply to the fedora-kde mailing list or #fedora-kde on IRC. Two people, Aioanei Rares and Marco Crosio, were quick to volunteer, and were accepted as the new KDE testers. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00423.html --- Bugzilla semantics debate --- The Bugzilla semantics debate[1] continued throughout the week, especially following the input from developers at the QA meeting (see above) and the subsequent summary[2] posted by Adam Williamson. He proposed three options: leaving the current triage process unchanged and encouraging development teams who currently use ASSIGNED to mean a bug has been accepted by a certain developer to use ON_QA instead; changing Bugzappers practice to use a keyword to mark triaged bugs going forward, but leave all existing bugs as they are; or changing Bugzappers practice going forwards and also attempting to 'fix' existing bug reports to use the keyword where appropriate. Jesse Keating seemed to favor the second option[3], and John Poelstra agreed[4]. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00309.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00411.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00412.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00415.html -- Translation -- This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n) Project[1]. Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N --- F12 Translation Team Schedule Proposal --- The Fedora 12 Translation schedule has been drafted by John Poelstra and shared[1] in the fedora-trans mailing list for feedback from the FLP. Dimitris Glezos suggested[2] that the string freeze date can be pushed back from 1.5 months prior to translation deadline to 1 month and to rename the Release Notes translation task to indicate it as 'beta'. Ankit Patel mentioned the need for a translation review period ahead of the final packaging of the translated modules. Additionally, John Poelstra and Paul Frields both requested[3] the presence of a member from the FLSCo at the Release Readiness meetings. 1. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-July/msg00033.html 2. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-July/msg00034.html 3. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-July/msg00036.html --- Translation Quick Start Guide Updated --- The maintainer of the Translation Quick Start Guide (TQSG), Noriko Mizumoto informed[1] about the availability of the updated version of this book. Some minor errors in the main document and a few translated versions were also corrected after the updation[2]. 1. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-July/msg00051.html 2. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-July/msg00065.html --- Publican Version of Minor Fedora Documents Made Available --- Ruediger Landmann announced the availability of a few existing Fedora documents in a Publican ready format[1]. 1. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-July/msg00041.html --- New Members in FLP --- Noah Lee (Korean)[1], Robert Antoni Buj Gelonch (Catalan)[2], Josip ?ume?ki (Croation)[3] joined the Fedora Localization Project recently. 1. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-July/msg00035.html 2. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-July/msg00058.html 3. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-July/msg00074.html -- Artwork -- In this section, we cover the Fedora Design Team[1]. Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork --- Evaluating the Gallery --- After some time spent with the gallery test instance[1], Nicu Buculei shared[2] of @design-team his impressions: "the current authentication is a killer[...], is not easy to mass upload[...], there are only a few [plugins] available[...], some operations are cumbersome". He also showed concern about the small involvement of the team in testing "I see only very few of us played with the gallery, which make me doubt it is a popular/useful/wanted feature". In reply, Martin Sourada explained[3] it by the little time passed and summer vacancies "given that it's been around 11 days since Mo announced this[...] and seeing how many people are active here during the summer vacations, it's quite understandable that not many of us have tried it yet". After Martin questioned[4] the legality of publishing wallpapers from old released, Paul Frields intervened and confirmed[5] those are free: " these contributions to Fedora should fall under a license that allows reuse, redistribution, and remixes, although I suspect it's not Creative Commons." 1. http://publictest7.fedoraproject.org/gallery2/ 2. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000487.html 3. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000489.html 4. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000492.html 5. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000504.html --- A Small Icon Request --- Matthias Clasen addressed[1] what he calls "a small icon request" to @design-team: "With Gnome 2.28 in F12, it will be possible to have different icons for the xdg dirs[...] It would be pretty cool if we could create icons for this in a style that matches the existing user-home icon in our default icon theme (ie the folder icon with an overlayed embled in the Mist theme)" and in reply Andreas Nilsson pointed[2] this is worked upstream by Lapo Calamandrei "It seems like Lapo Calamandrei wanted to take care of this and create some 256x256 icons in the process. Hopefully this will land in gnome-themes soonish (and in good time for 2.28/F12)." 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000499.html 2. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000505.html --- Fedora 12 Theming Progress --- Martin Sourada announced[1] a wiki page for hosting Fedora 12 theme proposals "we've taken over the F12_Artwork wiki page[2] created by bioinfornatics, cleaned it up and added the designs concepts I've found in the design-team archives". He also announced the official page holding a despription of the artwork process [3] and reminded the time until the next deadline is passing fast "Also, according to our current Schedule, we are past the concept submission deadline and have about another eight days for working on the wallpapers we want to review for F12 Alpha inclusion", encouraging people to submit their works "if you have a design concept you like, focus your work onto it and help making it awesome :-)" On theming related news, MERCIER Jonathan asked for feedback[4] about one of his design ideas "it's make with Blender, i can give blend file what did you think about this image ?" and Nicu Buculei shared[5] some mosaic photos[6] he thought may be interesting "I have no idea which architectural style is this, but yesterday evening (around the 'golden hour') when passing near a group of fountains in the center of my city I noticed the mosaic and i *had to* take some photos ans share them with the rest of the gang." 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000494.html 2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_Artwork 3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design/Release_Artwork_Process 4. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000511.html 5. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-July/000513.html 6. http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/photos/mosaic/ -- Virtualization -- In this section, we cover discussion of Fedora virtualization technologies on the @fedora-virt, @fedora-xen-list, @libguestfs, @libvirt-list, @virt-tools-list, and @ovirt-devel-list lists. Contributing Writer: Dale Bewley --- Fedora Virtualization List --- This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-virt list. ---- New Release libguestfs 1.0.64 ---- Richard Jones announced [1] the release of image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibguestfs 1.0.64. New Features: * New tool: virt-cat. This tool lets you copy out files from a guest.[2] * Added libguestfs-test-tool which is a tool you can use to diagnose qemu / kernel booting problems, and also make bug reports more useful. * [Sys::Guestfs::Lib] split $os->{version} into $os->{major_version} and $os->{minor_version}. Add feature tags. (Matt Booth). * Allow TMPDIR to be used to override the location of temporary files. * Implement the guestfs_read_file call. * New calls guestfs_mkmountpoint and guestfs_rmmountpoint to allow some specialized read-only or nested filesystems to be mounted, particularly for examining live CDs.[3] * New call guestfs_mountpoints to return a hash of device -> mountpoint. * Many documentation fixes, including an "API Overview"[4] section which will help developers navigate parts of the now very large libguestfs API. * Add ~ and ~username expansion in guestfish (RHBZ #511372). * Add kernel modules for reading DOS filesystems (Guido Gunther). * Add i18n support for Perl strings. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/libguestfs/2009-July/msg00059.html 2. http://libguestfs.org/virt-cat.1.html#examples 3. http://rwmj.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/unpack-the-russian-doll-of-a-f11-live-cd/ 4. http://libguestfs.org/guestfs.3.html#api_overview ---- Swap Use in Guests ---- Rich Mahn asked[1] "How big should the swap parititons be on virtual machines under qemu, qemu/kvm?" "It seems to me that if the VM actually needs swap space, it would be more efficient to allocate more virual[sic] memory to it." Richard Jones found[2] this to be an interesting question, but argued "One place I think you're wrong is the assumption that adding more memory to a VM is better than having the VM use a swap disk. The reason would be that the VM's memory manager will assume that the [from its point of view] physical memory will be much faster than swap, and so will arrange memory vs swap use accordingly. But this assumption isn't true, this so-called physical memory is really just as slow as swap!" Richared pointed out Kernel Shared Memory[3] further complicates things. Dor Laor added[4]"Guest swapping is a reasonable scenario that should be allowed and supported." On the question of oversubscribing host memory to guests, Dor said "You can overcommit VM memory and it might be good if you have many VMs that have low memory foot print. If it is not the case, you better not do it." 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-July/msg00173.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-July/msg00178.html 3. http://lwn.net/Articles/306704/ 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-July/msg00182.html ---- Clustering libvirt Hosts ---- Gianluca Cecchi asked[1] "is there any pointer about how to set up a cluster of Qemu/KVM hosts?" "What are the uuid tags into the xml for? Do they have to be identical for clusters or do they have to be absolutely different for a sort of "identification" of host (as the term seems to suggest)?" Richard Jones pointed out oVirt[2] "which is an open source management tool designed precisely for looking after networks of virt hosts. It is based on libvirt, and they have looked at and solved many of the issues you raise." Guido G?nther answered[3] "In principle they don't have to be the same across hosts since you can identify the network by name and the volumes by their path but I prefer to keep them in sync (using shared nfs in my case)." 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-July/msg00161.html 2. http://ovirt.org/ 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-July/msg00177.html --- Virtualization Tools List --- This section contains the discussion happening on the virt-tools-list list. ---- Virtual Machine Cloning ---- Cole Robinson with some UI designs from Jeremy Perry patched[1] image:Echo-package-16px.pngvirt-manager to include a virtual machine cloning wizard. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/virt-tools-list/2009-July/msg00017.html ---- Virt Manager UI Rework ---- Cole Robinson has "been reworking the main manager view in virt-manager" and asked[1] for comments. In another UI tweak, Cole created[2] a system tray icon that "can be used to quit the app, or start, stop, pause, or open a VM." 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/virt-tools-list/2009-July/msg00035.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/virt-tools-list/2009-July/msg00042.html ---- Support for Processor Affinity ---- Michal Novotny submitted[1] a patch to virt-manager which enables pinning a guest to a select physical CPU. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/virt-tools-list/2009-July/msg00031.html ---- Virt What? ---- Another week, another release[1] from Richard Jones. virt-what[2] "is a collection of code snippets to allow you to determine what sort of virtualization you are running inside." "The new version can tell the difference between QEMU and KVM, and can tell if you are running inside a Xen fullvirt guest." 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/virt-tools-list/2009-July/msg00034.html 2. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-what/ --- end FWN 186 --- Pascal Calarco, Fedora Ambassador, Indiana, USA