Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 5, Issue 34

Luya Tshimbalanga luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com
Tue Aug 15 06:08:47 UTC 2006 

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From: "Luya Tshimbalanga" <luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com>
To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including
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Subject: Re: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 5, Issue 24
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> Diana Fong wrote:
> >
> > Yup, I think your modifications of these icons have made them better
> > each time I see your updates.  I'd like to work with you to tweak it a
> > bit to fit in with the set's color and whatnot.  I was thinking
> > something like the attached EmoteB.png (with a darker blue face and a
> > dark blue mouth instead of the harsh black).  I've also quickly
modified
> > the color for a "classic yellow" one as Nicu suggested above.  No
strong
> > preference...though if we do go with a yellow...I'd like to see a
darker
> > yellow -> yellow orange coloring.
>
> So far the dominant colors in Echo are gray and blue, giving a somewhat
> cold look to the theme.
> IMO the emotes are about human feelings so I find more appropriate some
> warmer colors so the human seeing the emote would identify better with
> the emote. Probably yellow orange would be fine, but a little more
> orange than your emoteY.png.
>

How about getting a different color for each set? Is it possible?

> > Also, what do you think about getting rid of the white areas of the
eyes
> > for the smaller 16x16 size?  I think by just using the darker part
would
> > make them more clear.
>
> Definitely, no white area for 16x16 and make the black area larger (make
> the whole white area black)

Agreed except for the surprised emote. If that still looks blurry, I
don't mind to be removed.

> > Diana
> > ps. temporarily removed the nose cuz it doesn't show up on the smaller
> > sizes...so thought i'd try it without the nose...hehe...what do you
think?
>
> Right, the nose is an unneeded detail (it does not contribute in any way
> to the specific emotion). Even at 48x48 was barely noticeable, so better
> without it.


Nose was superficial so it can be removed.

Luya Tshimbalanga
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>    1. Re: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 5, Issue 24 (Diana Fong)
>    2. Re: Testing out the theme (Leon)
>    3. Re: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 5, Issue 24 (M?ir?n Duffy)
>    4. Awesome Fedora Wallpaper (M?ir?n Duffy)
>    5. Re: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 5, Issue 24 (Nicu Buculei)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:23:32 -0400
> From: Diana Fong <dfong at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 5, Issue 24
> To: luya at fedoraproject.org,	"Discussions about the artwork included
> 	with Fedora, including icons,	themes, and wallpapers."
> 	<fedora-art-list at redhat.com>
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> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
> >> From: Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro>
> >>
> >> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
> >>     
> >>> I completed the set of small emotes. I am not sure if it is a good
idea
> >>> to put a GPL license. Anyway, take a look on
> >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoDevelopment
> >>>       
> >> My two cents:
> >> Can you make the outlines stronger? And use a gradient for outlines, 
> >> like in the other icons.
> >> For angel and devil consider making the details more 
> >> evident/contrasting, I barely see the halo and the horns.
> >> The same for the crying icon: one single tear is enough as a metaphor, 
> >> having so many they are small and invisible. So leave just one or two 
> >> big tears.
> >> I understand blue is the defining color of the theme, but I feel a 
> >> classic yellow would be better for this group of icons.
> >>
> >>     
> > I just completed the whole set of emotes. As suggested, I added a
> > gradient on outlines and thicken them as well. Small size of emotes
> > didn't need much change except angel and devil. It also appears that
> > Diana Fong really appreciated them as she found them very expressive.
> 
> Luya...
> 
> Yup, I think your modifications of these icons have made them better 
> each time I see your updates.  I'd like to work with you to tweak it a 
> bit to fit in with the set's color and whatnot.  I was thinking 
> something like the attached EmoteB.png (with a darker blue face and a 
> dark blue mouth instead of the harsh black).  I've also quickly modified 
> the color for a "classic yellow" one as Nicu suggested above.  No strong 
> preference...though if we do go with a yellow...I'd like to see a darker 
> yellow -> yellow orange coloring.
> 
> The two devil icons still looks a bit odd to me, I think it's the horns, 
> try making them a dark red?
> Also, what do you think about getting rid of the white areas of the eyes 
> for the smaller 16x16 size?  I think by just using the darker part would 
> make them more clear.
> 
> Diana
> ps. temporarily removed the nose cuz it doesn't show up on the smaller 
> sizes...so thought i'd try it without the nose...hehe...what do you think?
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:27:31 +0100
> From: Leon <sdl.web at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Testing out the theme
> To: fedora-art-list at redhat.com
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> On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:59:14 -0400, Diana Fong wrote:
> 
> > Hi Leon...
> >
> > I'm currently using Illustrator to create the icons and when I save as
> > .svg, some characteristics don't seem to carry over when opened in
> > Inkscape.  Mostly it's the blending options that do not translate
> > well.  Example: I've found with the icons that have "paper file"
> > images in them is that one of the layer did not adopt the "Multiply"
> > Blending option I gave it and so instead of letting the image behind
> > that layer show through, the gradient is to a solid white.  Inkscape,
> > on the other hand has the ability to gradient to transparency and so
> > by setting the white to transparent (and tweaking the middle grays) it
> > will look more like the .png. 
> >
> > I'll fix the Utillities-terminalL.svg icon.
> >
> > Diana
> >
> 
> I see. Does Illustrator supports exporting to plain svg? It's more
> portable.
> 
> -- 
> Leon
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 22:20:04 -0400
> From: M?ir?n Duffy <duffy at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 5, Issue 24
> To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including
> 	icons,	themes, and wallpapers." <fedora-art-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <44E12F54.6030306 at redhat.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Diana Fong wrote:
> > Yup, I think your modifications of these icons have made them better 
> > each time I see your updates.  I'd like to work with you to tweak it a 
> > bit to fit in with the set's color and whatnot.  I was thinking 
> 
> Shouldn't the light source be coming from the left, not the right?
> 
> ~m
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:53:48 -0400
> From: M?ir?n Duffy <duffy at redhat.com>
> Subject: Awesome Fedora Wallpaper
> To: fedora-art-list at redhat.com
> Message-ID: <44E1454C.3090107 at redhat.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/23479034/
> 
> I don't know what it is about this - but I just love this - I'm hoping 
> Pandul will update it with the latest logo! :)
> 
> Had to share!
> 
> ~m
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:39:13 +0300
> From: Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro>
> Subject: Re: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 5, Issue 24
> To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including
> 	icons,	themes, and wallpapers." <fedora-art-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <44E15E01.1070405 at nicubunu.ro>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Diana Fong wrote:
> > 
> > Yup, I think your modifications of these icons have made them better 
> > each time I see your updates.  I'd like to work with you to tweak it a 
> > bit to fit in with the set's color and whatnot.  I was thinking 
> > something like the attached EmoteB.png (with a darker blue face and a 
> > dark blue mouth instead of the harsh black).  I've also quickly
modified 
> > the color for a "classic yellow" one as Nicu suggested above.  No
strong 
> > preference...though if we do go with a yellow...I'd like to see a
darker 
> > yellow -> yellow orange coloring.
> 
> So far the dominant colors in Echo are gray and blue, giving a somewhat 
> cold look to the theme.
> IMO the emotes are about human feelings so I find more appropriate some 
> warmer colors so the human seeing the emote would identify better with 
> the emote. Probably yellow orange would be fine, but a little more 
> orange than your emoteY.png.
> 
> > Also, what do you think about getting rid of the white areas of the
eyes 
> > for the smaller 16x16 size?  I think by just using the darker part
would 
> > make them more clear.
> 
> Definitely, no white area for 16x16 and make the black area larger (make 
> the whole white area black)
> 
> > Diana
> > ps. temporarily removed the nose cuz it doesn't show up on the smaller 
> > sizes...so thought i'd try it without the nose...hehe...what do you
think?
> 
> Right, the nose is an unneeded detail (it does not contribute in any way 
> to the specific emotion). Even at 48x48 was barely noticeable, so better 
> without it.
> 
> -- 
> nicu
> Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/
> Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org
> my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro
> 
> 
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Luya Tshimbalanga
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