From sdl.web at gmail.com Thu Jul 13 20:26:48 2006 From: sdl.web at gmail.com (sdl.web at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 21:26:48 +0100 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 Message-ID: Hi there, It seems this mailing list is extremely inactive:( I'll be the first of this month to post. By the time FC 6 released, the bluecurve icon theme will be 4 year old. Hope to see some shiny changes. The new icons posted in fedorawiki are really nice. However it seems all the art work happens secretly if it happens at all. Great effort has been made to attract more community participation but the result looks unsatisfactory. As FC 6 test2 is coming in a week, maybe people in the artwork team could shed some light on how things are progressing? Any feedback needed from end users? -- Leon From andy at andycc.net Thu Jul 13 20:56:54 2006 From: andy at andycc.net (Andy Shellam) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 21:56:54 +0100 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> Hi Leon, I agree with you - would do good to see some fresh changes to the complete UI of Fedora. I don't about you, but in my opinion, the Bluecurve theme reminds me too much of Windows, especially the red "X" in one of the sub-themes - it's just Windows XP revamped, and I didn't switch to Fedora to remind me of Windows ;-) Now, with Windows Vista coming forth shortly, I wouldn't say no to alpha blending and a good deal more visual effects :) I posted a message on here a while back to ask how to customise the boot-loader screens but got not one single reply :( eventually I figured it out on my own, looks like there's very few art gurus who are willing to bring the discussions out into the public domain. Ah well, and so we wait... Andy. sdl.web at gmail.com wrote: > Hi there, > > It seems this mailing list is extremely inactive:( I'll be the first > of this month to post. > > By the time FC 6 released, the bluecurve icon theme will be 4 year > old. Hope to see some shiny changes. The new icons posted > in fedorawiki are really nice. > > However it seems all the art work happens secretly if it happens at > all. Great effort has been made to attract more community > participation but the result looks unsatisfactory. As FC 6 test2 is > coming in a week, maybe people in the artwork team could shed some > light on how things are progressing? Any feedback needed from end > users? > > -- Leon > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > !DSPAM:14,44b6ac9d34532123712549! > > > From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Jul 14 04:14:03 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 09:44:03 +0530 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> Message-ID: <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> Andy Shellam wrote: > Hi Leon, > > I agree with you - would do good to see some fresh changes to the > complete UI of Fedora. > I don't about you, but in my opinion, the Bluecurve theme reminds me too > much of Windows, especially the red "X" in one of the sub-themes - it's > just Windows XP revamped, and I didn't switch to Fedora to remind me of > Windows ;-) It couldnt be XP revamped because BlueCurve is older. > > Now, with Windows Vista coming forth shortly, I wouldn't say no to alpha > blending and a good deal more visual effects :) > > I posted a message on here a while back to ask how to customise the > boot-loader screens but got not one single reply :( eventually I figured > it out on my own, looks like there's very few art gurus who are willing > to bring the discussions out into the public domain. > > Ah well, and so we wait... This list is about creating artwork. Customising boot loader screens are a implementation detail this list doesnt focus on. Rahul From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Jul 14 05:34:05 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 08:34:05 +0300 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> Rahul wrote: > Andy Shellam wrote: >> Hi Leon, >> >> I agree with you - would do good to see some fresh changes to the >> complete UI of Fedora. >> I don't about you, but in my opinion, the Bluecurve theme reminds me >> too much of Windows, especially the red "X" in one of the sub-themes - >> it's just Windows XP revamped, and I didn't switch to Fedora to remind >> me of Windows ;-) > > It couldnt be XP revamped because BlueCurve is older. The truth is Bluecurve was introduced in RHL 8, released in september 2002, about one year *after* the release of Windows XP. But the original poster is wrong, the Bluecurve from 2002 was different compared with Bluecurve from 2006 and not looking at all like Windows XP. That being said, I agree Bluecurve is dated but also realize the time until FC6 release does not permit much else than some small tweaks. Development of a full icon set will take a much longer time and AFAIK we don't have yet a clear direction to go. About the list being silent this month, I can see a lot of possible reasons: summer, vacancies, GUADEC >> Now, with Windows Vista coming forth shortly, I wouldn't say no to >> alpha blending and a good deal more visual effects :) >> >> I posted a message on here a while back to ask how to customise the >> boot-loader screens but got not one single reply :( eventually I >> figured it out on my own, looks like there's very few art gurus who >> are willing to bring the discussions out into the public domain. >> >> Ah well, and so we wait... > > This list is about creating artwork. Customising boot loader screens are > a implementation detail this list doesnt focus on. I found his question about the boot-loader screens very on-topic, but unfortunately did not knew the answer. Too bad that after finding the answer he did not post here to answer, to have it archived as a future reference... -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From andy at andycc.net Fri Jul 14 08:25:48 2006 From: andy at andycc.net (Andy Shellam) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 09:25:48 +0100 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> Actually, saying that I've just remembered it wasn't the boot screens per se I posted about, but the Grub boot loader screen (background.) I didn't get it sorted, the machine it's on is a dev box which I haven't logged on to for a couple of weeks - but AFAIK I'm still trying to find the answer to getting a custom Grub background working. What I DID accomplish was the rest of the RHGB screens, which are simply PNG images in the /usr/share/rhgb folder, and can be replaced by custom ones. To create a custom "throbber" (the animation of a few circles spinning round), create a PNG image of 288x24 - then in that image you need 12 images of 24x24 placed side-by-side, so when viewed left to right - that's your animation. Replace the /usr/share/rhgb/throbber-anim.png image with your image, reboot and you're sorted! In Fedora, the /usr/share/rhgb/large-computer.png isn't used - there are 2 other image - one which is the fedora system logo (the bubbly f), the other is the word "fedora" in the bottom-right corner. Replace these with your own PNGs and bingo, you've got a nice customised system :) Andy. > > I found his question about the boot-loader screens very on-topic, but > unfortunately did not knew the answer. > Too bad that after finding the answer he did not post here to answer, > to have it archived as a future reference... > From duffy at redhat.com Fri Jul 14 13:29:20 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 09:29:20 -0400 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <44B79C30.1030000@redhat.com> Nicu Buculei wrote: > That being said, I agree Bluecurve is dated but also realize the time > until FC6 release does not permit much else than some small tweaks. > Development of a full icon set will take a much longer time and AFAIK we > don't have yet a clear direction to go. > > About the list being silent this month, I can see a lot of possible > reasons: summer, vacancies, GUADEC Yep, I've been at GUADEC and since then have been trying to catch up on the work I missed that week. ;-) Sorry everybody. :) > I found his question about the boot-loader screens very on-topic, but > unfortunately did not knew the answer. > Too bad that after finding the answer he did not post here to answer, to > have it archived as a future reference... Good idea! I didn't respond because I similarly did not know the answer. ~m From duffy at redhat.com Fri Jul 14 13:31:18 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 09:31:18 -0400 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> Message-ID: <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> Hi Andy, Andy Shellam wrote: > Actually, saying that I've just remembered it wasn't the boot screens > per se I posted about, but the Grub boot loader screen (background.) I > didn't get it sorted, the machine it's on is a dev box which I haven't > logged on to for a couple of weeks - but AFAIK I'm still trying to find > the answer to getting a custom Grub background working. I'm going to ask around and see if I can get more information about that. > What I DID accomplish was the rest of the RHGB screens, which are simply > PNG images in the /usr/share/rhgb folder, and can be replaced by custom > ones. > To create a custom "throbber" (the animation of a few circles spinning > round), create a PNG image of 288x24 - then in that image you need 12 > images of 24x24 placed side-by-side, so when viewed left to right - > that's your animation. > > Replace the /usr/share/rhgb/throbber-anim.png image with your image, > reboot and you're sorted! > > In Fedora, the /usr/share/rhgb/large-computer.png isn't used - there are > 2 other image - one which is the fedora system logo (the bubbly f), the > other is the word "fedora" in the bottom-right corner. Replace these > with your own PNGs and bingo, you've got a nice customised system :) This is really helpful, thanks for writing this up! Would you mind if I added it to our wiki page [1] about all the different parts of Fedora that can be customized? [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemingOverview ~m From andy at andycc.net Fri Jul 14 13:46:32 2006 From: andy at andycc.net (Andy Shellam) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:46:32 +0100 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44B7A038.1030106@andycc.net> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Would you mind if I added it to our wiki page [1] about all the > different parts of Fedora that can be customized? Not at all - it took me ages to find out how to do it - including looking through your wiki!! I thought it was part of the wider "bootsplash" package, which in the end, turned out not to be so! Redhat use their own graphical bootloader (hence the name RHGB.) Hopefully it will save other people time :) > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemingOverview From andy at andycc.net Fri Jul 14 13:49:46 2006 From: andy at andycc.net (Andy Shellam) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 14:49:46 +0100 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44B7A0FA.4050803@andycc.net> Also on the subject of the wiki, I've also customised the Gnome splash screen - when I get back to my Fedora PC at home I'll post the specs for the image so you can add them too. Andy. M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi Andy, > > Andy Shellam wrote: >> Actually, saying that I've just remembered it wasn't the boot screens >> per se I posted about, but the Grub boot loader screen (background.) >> I didn't get it sorted, the machine it's on is a dev box which I >> haven't logged on to for a couple of weeks - but AFAIK I'm still >> trying to find the answer to getting a custom Grub background working. > > I'm going to ask around and see if I can get more information about that. > >> What I DID accomplish was the rest of the RHGB screens, which are >> simply PNG images in the /usr/share/rhgb folder, and can be replaced >> by custom ones. >> To create a custom "throbber" (the animation of a few circles >> spinning round), create a PNG image of 288x24 - then in that image >> you need 12 images of 24x24 placed side-by-side, so when viewed left >> to right - that's your animation. >> >> Replace the /usr/share/rhgb/throbber-anim.png image with your image, >> reboot and you're sorted! >> >> In Fedora, the /usr/share/rhgb/large-computer.png isn't used - there >> are 2 other image - one which is the fedora system logo (the bubbly >> f), the other is the word "fedora" in the bottom-right corner. >> Replace these with your own PNGs and bingo, you've got a nice >> customised system :) > > This is really helpful, thanks for writing this up! > > Would you mind if I added it to our wiki page [1] about all the > different parts of Fedora that can be customized? > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemingOverview > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > !DSPAM:14,44b79cc834537070169429! > > From duffy at redhat.com Fri Jul 14 13:55:19 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 09:55:19 -0400 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <44B7A0FA.4050803@andycc.net> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> <44B7A0FA.4050803@andycc.net> Message-ID: <44B7A247.2000100@redhat.com> Andy Shellam wrote: > Also on the subject of the wiki, I've also customised the Gnome splash > screen - when I get back to my Fedora PC at home I'll post the specs for > the image so you can add them too. Awesome! I've been meaning to write up a GDM themeing tutorial for the login screen so I'll hopefully be adding some details about that soon, too. :) ~m From duffy at redhat.com Fri Jul 14 13:55:46 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 09:55:46 -0400 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <44B7A038.1030106@andycc.net> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> <44B7A038.1030106@andycc.net> Message-ID: <44B7A262.7060903@redhat.com> Andy Shellam wrote: > Not at all - it took me ages to find out how to do it - including > looking through your wiki!! I thought it was part of the wider > "bootsplash" package, which in the end, turned out not to be so! Redhat > use their own graphical bootloader (hence the name RHGB.) Thanks!! It's been added :) ~m From andy at andycc.net Fri Jul 14 14:00:53 2006 From: andy at andycc.net (Andy Shellam) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:00:53 +0100 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <44B7A262.7060903@redhat.com> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> <44B7A038.1030106@andycc.net> <44B7A262.7060903@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44B7A395.3060304@andycc.net> Kewl, thanks :) Can you alter a spelling mistake of mine (sorry I'm a perfectionist lol) "there are 2 other image" should be: "there are 2 other images" When I get back to my own PC I'll find out the actual names of the images as well so you can add them too. Andy. M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Andy Shellam wrote: >> Not at all - it took me ages to find out how to do it - including >> looking through your wiki!! I thought it was part of the wider >> "bootsplash" package, which in the end, turned out not to be so! >> Redhat use their own graphical bootloader (hence the name RHGB.) > > Thanks!! It's been added :) > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > !DSPAM:14,44b7a26d34531079915541! > > From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Jul 14 14:07:59 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:07:59 +0300 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <44B7A0FA.4050803@andycc.net> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> <44B7A0FA.4050803@andycc.net> Message-ID: <44B7A53F.4010505@nicubunu.ro> Andy Shellam wrote: > Also on the subject of the wiki, I've also customised the Gnome splash > screen - when I get back to my Fedora PC at home I'll post the specs for > the image so you can add them too. Andy, a wiki is a wiki, its purpose is to be easy to edit by anyone, you can modify or add content yourself, do not hesitate to do it. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From andy at andycc.net Fri Jul 14 14:12:48 2006 From: andy at andycc.net (Andy Shellam) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:12:48 +0100 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <44B7A53F.4010505@nicubunu.ro> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> <44B7A0FA.4050803@andycc.net> <44B7A53F.4010505@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <44B7A660.4010409@andycc.net> That's what I thought, but I've registered on the wiki, logged in but cannot find an Edit link anywhere :S Guidance, anyone? Nicu Buculei wrote: > Andy Shellam wrote: >> Also on the subject of the wiki, I've also customised the Gnome >> splash screen - when I get back to my Fedora PC at home I'll post the >> specs for the image so you can add them too. > > Andy, a wiki is a wiki, its purpose is to be easy to edit by anyone, > you can modify or add content yourself, do not hesitate to do it. > From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Jul 14 14:19:04 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:19:04 +0300 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <44B7A660.4010409@andycc.net> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> <44B7A0FA.4050803@andycc.net> <44B7A53F.4010505@nicubunu.ro> <44B7A660.4010409@andycc.net> Message-ID: <44B7A7D8.1040509@nicubunu.ro> Andy Shellam wrote: > That's what I thought, but I've registered on the wiki, logged in but > cannot find an Edit link anywhere :S > > Guidance, anyone? You have to register in the Fedora Account System http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem and after that ask someone do add you to the Edit Group http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EditGroup -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Jul 14 14:21:24 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:21:24 +0300 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <44B7A7D8.1040509@nicubunu.ro> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> <44B7A0FA.4050803@andycc.net> <44B7A53F.4010505@nicubunu.ro> <44B7A660.4010409@andycc.net> <44B7A7D8.1040509@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <44B7A864.5030105@nicubunu.ro> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Andy Shellam wrote: >> That's what I thought, but I've registered on the wiki, logged in but >> cannot find an Edit link anywhere :S >> >> Guidance, anyone? > > You have to register in the Fedora Account System > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem > and after that ask someone do add you to the Edit Group > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EditGroup Sorry, the best link would be http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiEditing -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From andy at andycc.net Fri Jul 14 14:25:52 2006 From: andy at andycc.net (Andy Shellam) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:25:52 +0100 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <44B7A7D8.1040509@nicubunu.ro> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> <44B7A0FA.4050803@andycc.net> <44B7A53F.4010505@nicubunu.ro> <44B7A660.4010409@andycc.net> <44B7A7D8.1040509@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <44B7A970.2070501@andycc.net> So in that case, although wiki's are "designed to be easily editable" - I have to go through a number of stages in order to be able to edit it: 1. Register on the wiki 2. Register on Fedora's Account System 3. Modify my own account page to explain who I am 4. Contact someone to add me to the wiki page When, in the end, all I wanted to do was to add an "s" onto the end of a word? It seems much easier to contact someone who's already had a hand in the rest of the page :P lol Nicu Buculei wrote: > Andy Shellam wrote: >> That's what I thought, but I've registered on the wiki, logged in but >> cannot find an Edit link anywhere :S >> >> Guidance, anyone? > > You have to register in the Fedora Account System > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem > and after that ask someone do add you to the Edit Group > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EditGroup > From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Jul 14 14:39:46 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:39:46 +0300 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <44B7A970.2070501@andycc.net> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> <44B7A0FA.4050803@andycc.net> <44B7A53F.4010505@nicubunu.ro> <44B7A660.4010409@andycc.net> <44B7A7D8.1040509@nicubunu.ro> <44B7A970.2070501@andycc.net> Message-ID: <44B7ACB2.4040209@nicubunu.ro> Andy Shellam wrote: > So in that case, although wiki's are "designed to be easily editable" - > I have to go through a number of stages in order to be able to edit it: > > 1. Register on the wiki > 2. Register on Fedora's Account System > 3. Modify my own account page to explain who I am > 4. Contact someone to add me to the wiki page > > When, in the end, all I wanted to do was to add an "s" onto the end of a > word? Some months ago I complained myself about those many steps, but this is the policy and if you think a little, will see the reasons behind it (accountability, copyright, license). > It seems much easier to contact someone who's already had a hand in the > rest of the page :P lol Look at the bright side: with an account you can create complete new articles, sections, put a lot of content. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From sdl.web at gmail.com Fri Jul 14 16:50:52 2006 From: sdl.web at gmail.com (Leon) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:50:52 +0100 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <44B79C30.1030000@redhat.com> (=?utf-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4=?= Duffy's message of "Fri, 14 Jul 2006 09:29:20 -0400") References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B79C30.1030000@redhat.com> Message-ID: M?ir?n Duffy writes: > Nicu Buculei wrote: >> That being said, I agree Bluecurve is dated but also realize the >> time until FC6 release does not permit much else than some small >> tweaks. Development of a full icon set will take a much longer time >> and AFAIK we don't have yet a clear direction to go. >> >> About the list being silent this month, I can see a lot of possible >> reasons: summer, vacancies, GUADEC > > Yep, I've been at GUADEC and since then have been trying to catch up > on the work I missed that week. ;-) Sorry everybody. :) > Great to see you back:-) How's GUADEC? >> I found his question about the boot-loader screens very on-topic, >> but unfortunately did not knew the answer. >> Too bad that after finding the answer he did not post here to >> answer, to have it archived as a future reference... > > Good idea! I didn't respond because I similarly did not know the answer. > > ~m -- Leon From sdl.web at gmail.com Fri Jul 14 17:07:15 2006 From: sdl.web at gmail.com (Leon) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 18:07:15 +0100 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> (Andy Shellam's message of "Thu, 13 Jul 2006 21:56:54 +0100") References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> Message-ID: Andy Shellam writes: > Hi Leon, > > I agree with you - would do good to see some fresh changes to the > complete UI of Fedora. > I don't about you, but in my opinion, the Bluecurve theme reminds me > too much of Windows, especially the red "X" in one of the sub-themes - > it's just Windows XP revamped, and I didn't switch to Fedora to remind > me of Windows ;-) > > Now, with Windows Vista coming forth shortly, I wouldn't say no to > alpha blending and a good deal more visual effects :) > You raise a very good point here. There is opportunity of more people coming to linux world. However, the choice of which distribution to go to is overwhelming. The first thing to grab new users' attention is visual style, icons etc. And it seems fedora has met its match from SUSE and Ubuntu. Look at the pace these two distributions develop! > I posted a message on here a while back to ask how to customise the > boot-loader screens but got not one single reply :( eventually I > figured it out on my own, looks like there's very few art gurus who > are willing to bring the discussions out into the public domain. > > Ah well, and so we wait... > > Andy. > > > sdl.web at gmail.com wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> It seems this mailing list is extremely inactive:( I'll be the first >> of this month to post. >> >> By the time FC 6 released, the bluecurve icon theme will be 4 year >> old. Hope to see some shiny changes. The new icons posted >> in fedorawiki are really nice. >> >> However it seems all the art work happens secretly if it happens at >> all. Great effort has been made to attract more community >> participation but the result looks unsatisfactory. As FC 6 test2 is >> coming in a week, maybe people in the artwork team could shed some >> light on how things are progressing? Any feedback needed from end >> users? >> >> -- Leon >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-art-list mailing list >> Fedora-art-list at redhat.com >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list >> >> !DSPAM:14,44b6ac9d34532123712549! >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Leon From duffy at redhat.com Fri Jul 14 19:33:44 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:33:44 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 6 Theme Update Message-ID: <44B7F198.5080601@redhat.com> Hey Everybody, So some of you may have seen the quite famous by now :) Gentle Gnome GTK/metacity mockups that Bert Bruggeman created [1]. How does everybody feel about the possibility of using a look like this as the default theme for FC 6? Arthurva Gore has put together a pixmap GTK theme that matches Bert's mockups pretty closely, and there are a lot of Clearlooks metacity themes that work well with the theme. I took a screenshot [2] using Arthurva's GTK theme and the Clearlooks-BlackMod theme [3] on a relatively fresh install of FC5. What do you all think? I think Arthurva's got it far enough along that we'd have some time to make minor tweaks if we wanted. The two things I noticed about it are the tabs are a little undefined (eg in Firefox) and the progress bar is a little weird. Any suggestions welcome! :) ~m [1] http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31128 [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemeConcepts [3] http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=40156 From jfrieben at freesurf.fr Fri Jul 14 19:50:26 2006 From: jfrieben at freesurf.fr (Joachim Frieben) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 21:50:26 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Fedora Core 6 Theme Update In-Reply-To: <44B7F198.5080601@redhat.com> References: <44B7F198.5080601@redhat.com> Message-ID: <61532.194.94.224.254.1152906626.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> I am -not- impressed. :( On the other hand, I have played with the default Ubuntu "GTK" theme "humanlooks" on my "Fedora" box , and apart from the colors, it's quite nice. After adapting the color scheme, this should be way better. From duffy at redhat.com Fri Jul 14 19:52:35 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:52:35 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core 6 Theme Update In-Reply-To: <61532.194.94.224.254.1152906626.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> References: <44B7F198.5080601@redhat.com> <61532.194.94.224.254.1152906626.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> Message-ID: <44B7F603.70503@redhat.com> Joachim Frieben wrote: > I am -not- impressed. :( What's wrong with it? Can you give more specific feedback about what you don't like about it? ~m From sdl.web at gmail.com Fri Jul 14 20:02:00 2006 From: sdl.web at gmail.com (Leon) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 21:02:00 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 6 Theme Update In-Reply-To: <61532.194.94.224.254.1152906626.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> (Joachim Frieben's message of "Fri, 14 Jul 2006 21:50:26 +0200 (CEST)") References: <44B7F198.5080601@redhat.com> <61532.194.94.224.254.1152906626.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> Message-ID: "Joachim Frieben" writes: > I am -not- impressed. :( > > On the other hand, I have played with the default Ubuntu "GTK" theme > "humanlooks" on my "Fedora" box , and apart from the colors, it's quite nice. > After adapting the color scheme, this should be way better. > > Could you post a screenshot? -- Leon From dfong at redhat.com Fri Jul 14 20:51:02 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:51:02 -0400 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> Message-ID: <44B803B6.1090500@redhat.com> Andy Shellam wrote: > I posted a message on here a while back to ask how to customise the > boot-loader screens but got not one single reply :( eventually I > figured it out on my own, looks like there's very few art gurus who > are willing to bring the discussions out into the public domain. I too did not know the answer to that question, but had forwarded it to someone that takes care of the grub splash here. I had hoped he would have answered by now...=( So it's not so much that we're unwilling to discuss, more because we don't know. ^_^ Diana From dfong at redhat.com Fri Jul 14 21:08:09 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:08:09 -0400 Subject: The Icon Question In-Reply-To: <449311F0.10505@redhat.com> References: <1150445204.2807.67.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <52548.194.94.224.254.1150454840.squirrel@arlette.freesurf.fr> <1150471903.2807.136.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <4492D149.8070804@redhat.com> <4492EA08.3010304@nicubunu.ro> <449311F0.10505@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44B807B9.9070307@redhat.com> Thank you all for your comments and suggestions. Result from the "Isometric vs 2pt poll" [1] was a close one...with the Isometric version leading by a small margin. For various reasons, the Isometric view will be used. A .svg copy of the Isometric grid can be found here [2]. I've also set up a gallery [3], where you can track the icon progress and contribute! Once again, the naming scheme, metaphor and descriptions are adopted from the Tango Project [4]. The Small version is for icons that are 16x16 or 24x24 that need simplified versions. The Small version is also at a "head-on" perspective. The Large version is for all other sizes, and probably most 24x24. We'll have to see how it looks. Posted on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond are also some Icons I created this past week/weekend. Diana [1] http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=113856 [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=isometric_grid.svg [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond/Gallery [4] http://tango.freedesktop.org/ From duffy at redhat.com Fri Jul 14 21:21:23 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:21:23 -0400 Subject: Themeing GRUB (was Re: Any theme planned for FC 6) In-Reply-To: <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44B80AD3.9000709@redhat.com> Hi Andy, > Andy Shellam wrote: >> Actually, saying that I've just remembered it wasn't the boot screens >> per se I posted about, but the Grub boot loader screen (background.) >> I didn't get it sorted, the machine it's on is a dev box which I >> haven't logged on to for a couple of weeks - but AFAIK I'm still >> trying to find the answer to getting a custom Grub background working. M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > I'm going to ask around and see if I can get more information about that. Ok, so one of the installer team guys pointed me to this article on customizing GRUB's boot screen: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/LG/current/jayanth.html ~m From andy at andycc.net Fri Jul 14 21:37:20 2006 From: andy at andycc.net (Andy Shellam) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 22:37:20 +0100 Subject: Themeing GRUB (was Re: Any theme planned for FC 6) In-Reply-To: <44B80AD3.9000709@redhat.com> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> <44B80AD3.9000709@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44B80E90.4030901@andycc.net> Hi Mairin, I'd tried that - I'd found the same tutorial in various different versions across the Net. It might help to know that the image I created was in GIMP 2.2.11, developed on both an FC5 and Windows XP system under GIMP (I believe the tutorial was on GIMP 1.x so I'm not sure if file formats have changed or anything silly like that.) I'd edited the original splash.xpm.gz image from Fedora, indexed it to 14 colours, and saved back to a splash.xpm.gz image in the original location (/boot/grub I believe.) All I could get Grub to do was display a black screen with white text (even restoring the original image didn't make any difference.) I'd tried editing the menu.lst file to point to a different image - no joy. I'd also tried creating a new image, 640x480, filling it in solid red, indexing to 14 colours - but even that didn't show. If need be I could send the image for someone to take a look at? P.S. to Diana: I hadn't said you were unwilling to discuss, I was just commenting that no-one had replied - in fact, before Leon's post, there's been no messages from anyone about anything on here :P lol. Thanks, Andy. M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi Andy, > >> Andy Shellam wrote: >>> Actually, saying that I've just remembered it wasn't the boot >>> screens per se I posted about, but the Grub boot loader screen >>> (background.) I didn't get it sorted, the machine it's on is a dev >>> box which I haven't logged on to for a couple of weeks - but AFAIK >>> I'm still trying to find the answer to getting a custom Grub >>> background working. > > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> I'm going to ask around and see if I can get more information about >> that. > > Ok, so one of the installer team guys pointed me to this article on > customizing GRUB's boot screen: > > http://www.tldp.org/LDP/LG/current/jayanth.html > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > !DSPAM:14,44b80ae334531066476637! > > From duffy at redhat.com Fri Jul 14 21:45:43 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:45:43 -0400 Subject: Themeing GRUB (was Re: Any theme planned for FC 6) In-Reply-To: <44B80E90.4030901@andycc.net> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> <44B80AD3.9000709@redhat.com> <44B80E90.4030901@andycc.net> Message-ID: <44B81087.5060008@redhat.com> Hi Andy, Andy Shellam wrote: > I'd tried that - I'd found the same tutorial in various different > versions across the Net. > It might help to know that the image I created was in GIMP 2.2.11, > developed on both an FC5 and Windows XP system under GIMP (I believe the > tutorial was on GIMP 1.x so I'm not sure if file formats have changed or > anything silly like that.) > I'd edited the original splash.xpm.gz image from Fedora, indexed it to > 14 colours, and saved back to a splash.xpm.gz image in the original > location (/boot/grub I believe.) Did you gunzip the splash.xpm.gz file, edit in the gimp, save as xpm, and then gzip the xpm? > All I could get Grub to do was display a black screen with white text > (even restoring the original image didn't make any difference.) I'd > tried editing the menu.lst file to point to a different image - no joy. > > I'd also tried creating a new image, 640x480, filling it in solid red, > indexing to 14 colours - but even that didn't show. > > If need be I could send the image for someone to take a look at? Please - feel free to send it via email attachment to the list or upload it somewhere and post the link. > P.S. to Diana: I hadn't said you were unwilling to discuss, I was just > commenting that no-one had replied - in fact, before Leon's post, > there's been no messages from anyone about anything on here :P lol. ? This mailing list has been around for a few months and there's been more discussion than that. ~m From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Jul 14 22:14:48 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 03:44:48 +0530 Subject: Fedora Core 6 Theme Update In-Reply-To: <44B7F198.5080601@redhat.com> References: <44B7F198.5080601@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44B81758.9030805@fedoraproject.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hey Everybody, > > So some of you may have seen the quite famous by now :) Gentle Gnome > GTK/metacity mockups that Bert Bruggeman created [1]. > > How does everybody feel about the possibility of using a look like this > as the default theme for FC 6? Arthurva Gore has put together a pixmap > GTK theme that matches Bert's mockups pretty closely, and there are a > lot of Clearlooks metacity themes that work well with the theme. I like the window border but I am not a fan of metallic grey menus with distinctive block edges. I find it reminiscent of the old drab GNOME 1.x themes. This theme is very distinctive unlike the usual blue which means that people would actually notice it and would like to have strong opinions about it on either directions. I also think that the "bubble" them and the uniformity of it across everything in FC5 was pretty nice though we could improve that in say window border where it makes sense. How about we refresh the look and feel (grub splash, rhgb, gdm, background, openoffice.org template, window spaces) for every release that evolves around a different entity like a bubble each time. We can be more evolutionary with the window manager theme and icons though having a distinctive and bold look is representative of Fedora IMO. Rahul From dfong at redhat.com Fri Jul 14 22:50:55 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 18:50:55 -0400 Subject: wallpaper poll for FC6T2 Message-ID: <44B81FCF.8000207@redhat.com> Hello All... I'm currently taking suggestions and a poll for the default wallpaper of fc6t2. Got a wallpaper you like and think others would too...please nominate and vote here. end of day July 18th! Diana From sdl.web at gmail.com Fri Jul 14 22:51:09 2006 From: sdl.web at gmail.com (Leon) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 23:51:09 +0100 Subject: The Icon Question In-Reply-To: <44B807B9.9070307@redhat.com> (Diana Fong's message of "Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:08:09 -0400") References: <1150445204.2807.67.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <52548.194.94.224.254.1150454840.squirrel@arlette.freesurf.fr> <1150471903.2807.136.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <4492D149.8070804@redhat.com> <4492EA08.3010304@nicubunu.ro> <449311F0.10505@redhat.com> <44B807B9.9070307@redhat.com> Message-ID: Diana Fong writes: > I've also set up a gallery [3], where you can track the icon progress > and contribute! Once again, the naming scheme, metaphor and > descriptions are adopted from the Tango Project [4]. The Small > version is for icons that are 16x16 or 24x24 that need simplified > versions. The Small version is also at a "head-on" perspective. The > Large version is for all other sizes, and probably most 24x24. We'll > have to see how it looks. > > Posted on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond are > also some Icons I created this past week/weekend. > > Diana > I'm a big fan of this icon set:-) Now it's also a good time to push it for the fedora core 6 test 2 to get more feedback. Do we have to inform the redhat-artwork packager to include these icons? Thanks, -- Leon From dfong at redhat.com Fri Jul 14 22:57:23 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 18:57:23 -0400 Subject: The Icon Question In-Reply-To: References: <1150445204.2807.67.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <52548.194.94.224.254.1150454840.squirrel@arlette.freesurf.fr> <1150471903.2807.136.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <4492D149.8070804@redhat.com> <4492EA08.3010304@nicubunu.ro> <449311F0.10505@redhat.com> <44B807B9.9070307@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44B82153.60203@redhat.com> Cool. =) I've been working with J5 (RedHat-artwork packager) on testing these out. Hopefully it'll make it into fc6t2. Diana Leon wrote: > Diana Fong writes: > > >> I've also set up a gallery [3], where you can track the icon progress >> and contribute! Once again, the naming scheme, metaphor and >> descriptions are adopted from the Tango Project [4]. The Small >> version is for icons that are 16x16 or 24x24 that need simplified >> versions. The Small version is also at a "head-on" perspective. The >> Large version is for all other sizes, and probably most 24x24. We'll >> have to see how it looks. >> >> Posted on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond are >> also some Icons I created this past week/weekend. >> >> Diana >> >> > > I'm a big fan of this icon set:-) > > Now it's also a good time to push it for the fedora core 6 test 2 to > get more feedback. Do we have to inform the redhat-artwork packager to > include these icons? > > Thanks, > From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Fri Jul 14 23:09:35 2006 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 07:09:35 +0800 Subject: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 4, Issue 3 Message-ID: The poll is now closed to reflect the decision. I really like these new icons because they give an unique personality for Fedora Core. It feels like waterlike matching the element theme. I cannot wait to try them. > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:08:09 -0400 > From: Diana Fong > Subject: Re: The Icon Question > To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including > icons, themes, and wallpapers." > Message-ID: <44B807B9.9070307 at redhat.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Thank you all for your comments and suggestions. Result from the > "Isometric vs 2pt poll" [1] was a close one...with the Isometric version > leading by a small margin. For various reasons, the Isometric view will > be used. A .svg copy of the Isometric grid can be found here [2]. > > I've also set up a gallery [3], where you can track the icon progress > and contribute! Once again, the naming scheme, metaphor and > descriptions are adopted from the Tango Project [4]. The Small version > is for icons that are 16x16 or 24x24 that need simplified versions. The > Small version is also at a "head-on" perspective. The Large version is > for all other sizes, and probably most 24x24. We'll have to see how it > looks. > > Posted on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond are > also some Icons I created this past week/weekend. > > Diana > > > > > [1] http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=113856 > [2] > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=isometric_grid.svg > [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond/Gallery > [4] http://tango.freedesktop.org/ > Luya Tshimbalanga -- Fedora Project Contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga http://www.fedoranews.org From dfong at redhat.com Fri Jul 14 23:14:23 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 19:14:23 -0400 Subject: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 4, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44B8254F.1020408@redhat.com> Awesome! Thanks...also thanks for having set that up as well. =) Diana Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > The poll is now closed to reflect the decision. I really like these > new icons because they give an unique personality for Fedora Core. > It feels like waterlike matching the element theme. I cannot wait to try > them. > > >> Message: 8 >> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:08:09 -0400 >> From: Diana Fong >> Subject: Re: The Icon Question >> To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including >> icons, themes, and wallpapers." >> Message-ID: <44B807B9.9070307 at redhat.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Thank you all for your comments and suggestions. Result from the >> "Isometric vs 2pt poll" [1] was a close one...with the Isometric version >> leading by a small margin. For various reasons, the Isometric view will >> be used. A .svg copy of the Isometric grid can be found here [2]. >> >> I've also set up a gallery [3], where you can track the icon progress >> and contribute! Once again, the naming scheme, metaphor and >> descriptions are adopted from the Tango Project [4]. The Small version >> is for icons that are 16x16 or 24x24 that need simplified versions. The >> Small version is also at a "head-on" perspective. The Large version is >> for all other sizes, and probably most 24x24. We'll have to see how it >> looks. >> >> Posted on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond are >> also some Icons I created this past week/weekend. >> >> Diana >> >> >> >> >> [1] http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=113856 >> [2] >> >> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=isometric_grid.svg > >> [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond/Gallery >> [4] http://tango.freedesktop.org/ >> >> > > > > Luya Tshimbalanga > From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Fri Jul 14 23:16:30 2006 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 07:16:30 +0800 Subject: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 4, Issue 3 Message-ID: The poll is now closed to reflect the decision. I really like these new icons because they give an unique personality for Fedora Core. It feels like waterlike matching the element theme. I cannot wait to try them. > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:08:09 -0400 > From: Diana Fong > Subject: Re: The Icon Question > To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including > icons, themes, and wallpapers." > Message-ID: <44B807B9.9070307 at redhat.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Thank you all for your comments and suggestions. Result from the > "Isometric vs 2pt poll" [1] was a close one...with the Isometric version > leading by a small margin. For various reasons, the Isometric view will > be used. A .svg copy of the Isometric grid can be found here [2]. > > I've also set up a gallery [3], where you can track the icon progress > and contribute! Once again, the naming scheme, metaphor and > descriptions are adopted from the Tango Project [4]. The Small version > is for icons that are 16x16 or 24x24 that need simplified versions. The > Small version is also at a "head-on" perspective. The Large version is > for all other sizes, and probably most 24x24. We'll have to see how it > looks. > > Posted on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond are > also some Icons I created this past week/weekend. > > Diana > > > > > [1] http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=113856 > [2] > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=isometric_grid.svg > [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond/Gallery > [4] http://tango.freedesktop.org/ > Luya Tshimbalanga -- Fedora Project Contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga http://www.fedoranews.org From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Fri Jul 14 23:17:17 2006 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 07:17:17 +0800 Subject: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 4, Issue 3 Message-ID: The poll is now closed to reflect the decision. I really like these new icons because they give an unique personality for Fedora Core. It feels like waterlike matching the element theme. I cannot wait to try them. > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:08:09 -0400 > From: Diana Fong > Subject: Re: The Icon Question > To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including > icons, themes, and wallpapers." > Message-ID: <44B807B9.9070307 at redhat.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Thank you all for your comments and suggestions. Result from the > "Isometric vs 2pt poll" [1] was a close one...with the Isometric version > leading by a small margin. For various reasons, the Isometric view will > be used. A .svg copy of the Isometric grid can be found here [2]. > > I've also set up a gallery [3], where you can track the icon progress > and contribute! Once again, the naming scheme, metaphor and > descriptions are adopted from the Tango Project [4]. The Small version > is for icons that are 16x16 or 24x24 that need simplified versions. The > Small version is also at a "head-on" perspective. The Large version is > for all other sizes, and probably most 24x24. We'll have to see how it > looks. > > Posted on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond are > also some Icons I created this past week/weekend. > > Diana > > > > > [1] http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=113856 > [2] > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=isometric_grid.svg > [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond/Gallery > [4] http://tango.freedesktop.org/ > Luya Tshimbalanga -- Fedora Project Contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga http://www.fedoranews.org From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Fri Jul 14 23:24:15 2006 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 07:24:15 +0800 Subject: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 4, Issue 3 Message-ID: The poll is now closed to reflect the decision. I really like these new icons because they give an unique personality for Fedora Core. It feels like waterlike matching the element theme. I cannot wait to try them. > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:08:09 -0400 > From: Diana Fong > Subject: Re: The Icon Question > To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including > icons, themes, and wallpapers." > Message-ID: <44B807B9.9070307 at redhat.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Thank you all for your comments and suggestions. Result from the > "Isometric vs 2pt poll" [1] was a close one...with the Isometric version > leading by a small margin. For various reasons, the Isometric view will > be used. A .svg copy of the Isometric grid can be found here [2]. > > I've also set up a gallery [3], where you can track the icon progress > and contribute! Once again, the naming scheme, metaphor and > descriptions are adopted from the Tango Project [4]. The Small version > is for icons that are 16x16 or 24x24 that need simplified versions. The > Small version is also at a "head-on" perspective. The Large version is > for all other sizes, and probably most 24x24. We'll have to see how it > looks. > > Posted on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond are > also some Icons I created this past week/weekend. > > Diana > > > > > [1] http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=113856 > [2] > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=isometric_grid.svg > [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond/Gallery > [4] http://tango.freedesktop.org/ > Luya Tshimbalanga -- Fedora Project Contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga http://www.fedoranews.org From duffy at redhat.com Sat Jul 15 00:33:06 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 20:33:06 -0400 Subject: wallpaper poll for FC6T2 In-Reply-To: <44B81FCF.8000207@redhat.com> References: <44B81FCF.8000207@redhat.com> Message-ID: Hi, On Jul 14, 2006, at 6:50 PM, Diana Fong wrote: > I'm currently taking suggestions and a poll for the default > wallpaper of fc6t2. Got a wallpaper you like and think others would > too...please nominate and vote here. > > end of day July 18th! We can't include a wallpaper in release of Fedora that is not licensed under an open license. If you have created wallpapers and you are willing to use an open license (I would strongly recommend Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike or the GPL) then you can submit those wallpapers. If there is a wallpaper you like that was created by someone else, it would need to have such an open license or we would need to at least discuss the license with them. Otherwise, it can't be eligible. Thanks, ~m From camilo at mesias.co.uk Sat Jul 15 11:43:42 2006 From: camilo at mesias.co.uk (Cam) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 12:43:42 +0100 Subject: wallpaper poll for FC6T2 In-Reply-To: <44B81FCF.8000207@redhat.com> References: <44B81FCF.8000207@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44B8D4EE.7020909@mesias.co.uk> Diana > I'm currently taking suggestions and a poll for the default wallpaper of > fc6t2. Got a wallpaper you like and think others would too...please > nominate and vote here. Are there any guidelines about the type of wallpaper? I tend to use photographic ones but I know the default is usually a bitmap. I have contributed some images to gnome art: http://art.gnome.org/users/Cam/backgrounds/ Is it possible to have a default available for different aspect ratio screens? In the past I have noticed the default 4:3 scaled into a widescreen display, it looks a bit strange. -Cam -- <-- camilo at mesias.co.uk From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Sat Jul 15 12:26:45 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 14:26:45 +0200 Subject: wallpaper poll for FC6T2 In-Reply-To: <44B81FCF.8000207@redhat.com> References: <44B81FCF.8000207@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1152966405.16958.5.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Le vendredi 14 juillet 2006 ? 18:50 -0400, Diana Fong a ?crit : > Hello All... > > I'm currently taking suggestions and a poll for the default wallpaper of > fc6t2. > Got a wallpaper you like and think others would too...please nominate > and vote here. > > end of day July 18th! > > Diana > This one, definitely. http://people.redhat.com/dfong/icFedora/060426/f-drop1.jpg Not because it's yours or anything the like, but because I really think this is the best fedora artwork ever made. ABout the guideline, I think that the Fedora logo may be printed on the wallpaper. > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Thomas Canniot http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(Anonymous) -- From andy at andycc.net Sat Jul 15 13:22:22 2006 From: andy at andycc.net (Andy Shellam) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 14:22:22 +0100 Subject: wallpaper poll for FC6T2 In-Reply-To: <44B8E350.5040108@glezos.com> References: <44B81FCF.8000207@redhat.com> <1152966405.16958.5.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <44B8E350.5040108@glezos.com> Message-ID: <44B8EC0E.3080209@andycc.net> I think if the "f" was more pronounced on this one [1] then definitely. However as it is, this one [2] has my vote. [1] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/icFedora/060712/fSky1.jpg [2] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/icFedora/060621/060621d.jpg Andy. Dimitris Glezos wrote: > O/H Thomas Canniot ??????: >> Le vendredi 14 juillet 2006 ? 18:50 -0400, Diana Fong a ?crit : >>> Hello All... >>> >>> I'm currently taking suggestions and a poll for the default >>> wallpaper of fc6t2. Got a wallpaper you like and think others would >>> too...please nominate and vote here. >>> >>> end of day July 18th! >>> >>> Diana >>> >> >> This one, definitely. >> http://people.redhat.com/dfong/icFedora/060426/f-drop1.jpg > > +1 > > -dim > > > > From lukas.riha at fotoskoda.cz Fri Jul 14 13:44:14 2006 From: lukas.riha at fotoskoda.cz (=?ISO-8859-1?B?THVr4XMgUu1oYQ==?=) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:44:14 +0200 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro><44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> Message-ID: <00ed01c6a74b$987d4490$8d01a8c0@fotoskoda.cz> Hi, If I understood the discussion correctly (didn't have much time to go through all e-mail...), this might be of some help (even tough the info is somewhat dated): http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/ Sorry, if it does not help... -L- ----- Original Message ----- From: "M?ir?n Duffy" To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers." Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 3:31 PM Subject: Re: Any theme planned for FC 6 > Hi Andy, > > Andy Shellam wrote: >> Actually, saying that I've just remembered it wasn't the boot screens per >> se I posted about, but the Grub boot loader screen (background.) I >> didn't get it sorted, the machine it's on is a dev box which I haven't >> logged on to for a couple of weeks - but AFAIK I'm still trying to find >> the answer to getting a custom Grub background working. > > I'm going to ask around and see if I can get more information about that. > >> What I DID accomplish was the rest of the RHGB screens, which are simply >> PNG images in the /usr/share/rhgb folder, and can be replaced by custom >> ones. >> To create a custom "throbber" (the animation of a few circles spinning >> round), create a PNG image of 288x24 - then in that image you need 12 >> images of 24x24 placed side-by-side, so when viewed left to right - >> that's your animation. >> >> Replace the /usr/share/rhgb/throbber-anim.png image with your image, >> reboot and you're sorted! >> >> In Fedora, the /usr/share/rhgb/large-computer.png isn't used - there are >> 2 other image - one which is the fedora system logo (the bubbly f), the >> other is the word "fedora" in the bottom-right corner. Replace these >> with your own PNGs and bingo, you've got a nice customised system :) > > This is really helpful, thanks for writing this up! > > Would you mind if I added it to our wiki page [1] about all the different > parts of Fedora that can be customized? > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemingOverview > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > From duffy at redhat.com Sat Jul 15 14:35:02 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (duffy at redhat.com) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 10:35:02 -0400 Subject: wallpaper poll for FC6T2 In-Reply-To: <44B81FCF.8000207@redhat.com> References: <44B81FCF.8000207@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060715103502.uhgdilyjkg88wk48@webmail.corp.redhat.com> Got a couple of other concerns here besides licensing: Quoting Diana Fong : > I'm currently taking suggestions and a poll for the default wallpaper > of fc6t2. Got a wallpaper you like and think others would > too...please nominate and vote here. 1) Is this just for FC6 test 2 or is this for FC6 - the quality we accept for a test release does not have to be as high for a final release. 2) If is *is* for FC6 - should we have decided on an overall theme before choosing a wallpaper so everything is integrated? Eg one idea you mentioned to me was a 'graffiti' style. Thanks, ~m From andy at andycc.net Sat Jul 15 14:54:15 2006 From: andy at andycc.net (Andy Shellam) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:54:15 +0100 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <00ed01c6a74b$987d4490$8d01a8c0@fotoskoda.cz> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro><44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> <00ed01c6a74b$987d4490$8d01a8c0@fotoskoda.cz> Message-ID: <44B90197.4070505@andycc.net> Lukas, That looks great!! Thanks I'll give it a shot when I get back onto my dev box in a week or so. Andy. Luk?s R?ha wrote: > Hi, > > If I understood the discussion correctly (didn't have much time to go > through all e-mail...), this might be of some help (even tough the > info is somewhat dated): http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/ > > Sorry, if it does not help... > > -L- > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "M?ir?n Duffy" > To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including > icons, themes, and wallpapers." > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 3:31 PM > Subject: Re: Any theme planned for FC 6 > > >> Hi Andy, >> >> Andy Shellam wrote: >>> Actually, saying that I've just remembered it wasn't the boot >>> screens per se I posted about, but the Grub boot loader screen >>> (background.) I didn't get it sorted, the machine it's on is a dev >>> box which I haven't logged on to for a couple of weeks - but AFAIK >>> I'm still trying to find the answer to getting a custom Grub >>> background working. >> >> I'm going to ask around and see if I can get more information about >> that. >> >>> What I DID accomplish was the rest of the RHGB screens, which are >>> simply PNG images in the /usr/share/rhgb folder, and can be replaced >>> by custom ones. >>> To create a custom "throbber" (the animation of a few circles >>> spinning round), create a PNG image of 288x24 - then in that image >>> you need 12 images of 24x24 placed side-by-side, so when viewed left >>> to right - that's your animation. >>> >>> Replace the /usr/share/rhgb/throbber-anim.png image with your image, >>> reboot and you're sorted! >>> >>> In Fedora, the /usr/share/rhgb/large-computer.png isn't used - there >>> are 2 other image - one which is the fedora system logo (the bubbly >>> f), the other is the word "fedora" in the bottom-right corner. >>> Replace these with your own PNGs and bingo, you've got a nice >>> customised system :) >> >> This is really helpful, thanks for writing this up! >> >> Would you mind if I added it to our wiki page [1] about all the >> different parts of Fedora that can be customized? >> >> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemingOverview >> >> ~m >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-art-list mailing list >> Fedora-art-list at redhat.com >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > !DSPAM:14,44b8fae834531617510043! > > From wart at kobold.org Sat Jul 15 15:42:06 2006 From: wart at kobold.org (Wart) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 08:42:06 -0700 Subject: Odd-sized wallpaper In-Reply-To: <44B8D4EE.7020909@mesias.co.uk> References: <44B81FCF.8000207@redhat.com> <44B8D4EE.7020909@mesias.co.uk> Message-ID: <44B90CCE.7050907@kobold.org> Cam wrote: > Is it possible to have a default available for different aspect ratio > screens? In the past I have noticed the default 4:3 scaled into a > widescreen display, it looks a bit strange. I would second this suggestion, but would like to see it taken even further. Multi-head displays are becoming more common these days, but most wallpaper isn't designed to look very good when spread across multiple displays. Mostly this is due to the aspect ratio, but also because the wallpapers don't look very interesting when tiled across multiple displays. I'd like to see at least a minimal set of wallpapers for additional resolutions/aspect ratios, like widescreen, 3200x1200, 6400x1200, and various combinations of multi-head widescreen displays. --Mike From sdl.web at gmail.com Sat Jul 15 15:57:24 2006 From: sdl.web at gmail.com (Leon) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 16:57:24 +0100 Subject: Odd-sized wallpaper In-Reply-To: <44B90CCE.7050907@kobold.org> (wart@kobold.org's message of "Sat, 15 Jul 2006 08:42:06 -0700") References: <44B81FCF.8000207@redhat.com> <44B8D4EE.7020909@mesias.co.uk> <44B90CCE.7050907@kobold.org> Message-ID: Wart writes: > Cam wrote: >> Is it possible to have a default available for different aspect ratio >> screens? In the past I have noticed the default 4:3 scaled into a >> widescreen display, it looks a bit strange. > > I would second this suggestion, but would like to see it taken even > further. Multi-head displays are becoming more common these days, but > most wallpaper isn't designed to look very good when spread across > multiple displays. Mostly this is due to the aspect ratio, but also > because the wallpapers don't look very interesting when tiled across > multiple displays. > > I'd like to see at least a minimal set of wallpapers for additional > resolutions/aspect ratios, like widescreen, 3200x1200, 6400x1200, and > various combinations of multi-head widescreen displays. > > --Mike > I think making wallpapers for all resolutions is not too hard. But let's focus on recommending more wallpapers to rock fc6. -- Leon From n.losito at yahoo.it Sun Jul 16 08:28:55 2006 From: n.losito at yahoo.it (Nicola Losito) Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 10:28:55 +0200 Subject: Any theme planned for FC 6 In-Reply-To: <44B7A247.2000100@redhat.com> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> <44B7A0FA.4050803@andycc.net> <44B7A247.2000100@redhat.com> Message-ID: <46B82DD0-CC97-4E6E-B674-F4C6C8657192@yahoo.it> Il giorno 14/lug/06, alle ore 15:55, M?ir?n Duffy ha scritto: > I've been meaning to write up a GDM themeing tutorial for the login > screen so I'll hopefully be adding some details about that soon, > too. :) ... and while we are on the GDM topic i have to say that Mairin's GDM themes are quite good looking, polished and modern in my opinion. I like them better than default GDM login theme in FC5 and i was thinking about the possibility to remove the gnome foot in it and fill in the Fedora bubble logo and colour scheme. http://pookstar.deviantart.com/ --> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/27841914/ or http://www.deviantart.com/view/27842068/ also a version with "faces" [orizzontally on the bottom] would be nice to have, always IMHO -- Nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. Losito http://www.koolinus.net http://koolinus.wordpress.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/temp/splash.xpm.gz) > It might help to know that the image I created was in GIMP 2.2.11, > developed on both an FC5 and Windows XP system under GIMP (I believe the > tutorial was on GIMP 1.x so I'm not sure if file formats have changed or > anything silly like that.) I used whatever Gimp is in updates for FC5, 2.2.12-1 and worked as expected. > If need be I could send the image for someone to take a look at? I guess we can have a look at it, you must be doing something wrong. > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> >> Ok, so one of the installer team guys pointed me to this article on >> customizing GRUB's boot screen: >> >> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/LG/current/jayanth.html -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Jul 17 06:26:47 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:26:47 +0300 Subject: wallpaper poll for FC6T2 In-Reply-To: <20060715103502.uhgdilyjkg88wk48@webmail.corp.redhat.com> References: <44B81FCF.8000207@redhat.com> <20060715103502.uhgdilyjkg88wk48@webmail.corp.redhat.com> Message-ID: <44BB2DA7.2090704@nicubunu.ro> duffy at redhat.com wrote: > Got a couple of other concerns here besides licensing: > > Quoting Diana Fong : >> I'm currently taking suggestions and a poll for the default wallpaper >> of fc6t2. Got a wallpaper you like and think others would too...please >> nominate and vote here. If we are supposed to vote, where I can see all the proposals listed? > 1) Is this just for FC6 test 2 or is this for FC6 - the quality we > accept for a > test release does not have to be as high for a final release. I had an idea for quite some time but always forgot to talk about it: around the time of each release we see a lot of website reviewing the release but presenting test3 or even test2 and not always mentioning is a test release. How about making it clear is a test release right from the wallpaper, so everybody will know it? > 2) If is *is* for FC6 - should we have decided on an overall theme before > choosing a wallpaper so everything is integrated? Eg one idea you > mentioned to > me was a 'graffiti' style. With such a short notice is *have* to be for test2. For FC6 I imagine we will have some consistency: grub, rhgb, gdm, default wallpaper with the same theme, just like bubbles in FC5 (and this indirectly means no photography as default wallpaper) -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Jul 17 06:38:06 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:38:06 +0300 Subject: Fedora Core 6 Theme Update In-Reply-To: <44B7F198.5080601@redhat.com> References: <44B7F198.5080601@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44BB304E.40906@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hey Everybody, > > So some of you may have seen the quite famous by now :) Gentle Gnome > GTK/metacity mockups that Bert Bruggeman created [1]. > > What do you all think? I think Arthurva's got it far enough along that > we'd have some time to make minor tweaks if we wanted. The two things I > noticed about it are the tabs are a little undefined (eg in Firefox) and > the progress bar is a little weird. My first reaction seeing it was: what is this? A Vista wannabe? It seems to use the same gray palette. I think I prefer the _blue_ signature of Fedora (which also fit the logo). -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From box at mjungle.it Mon Jul 17 08:02:05 2006 From: box at mjungle.it (Marco D'Amico) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 10:02:05 +0200 Subject: simple opinions Message-ID: <44BB43FD.1000604@mjungle.it> Hi all, I asked to my friends and my coworkers (I've received above 50 answers), what do they think about the look (grub splash, rhgb, gdm, background, etc.) of FC5. The opinions are different, but we agree with one thing: we don't like the bubbles. It's boyish. We prefer a simple but glamorous style as SUSE Linux 10.1. We like the new icons (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/BluecurveAndBeyond), we hope to see them in FC6. Thank you. Marco From jfrieben at freesurf.fr Sat Jul 15 14:37:41 2006 From: jfrieben at freesurf.fr (Joachim Frieben) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 16:37:41 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Fedora Core 6 Theme Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52426.194.94.224.254.1152974261.squirrel@arlette.freesurf.fr> Sure, the binary package is available at: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=38290&PHPSESSID=6 I have attached a screenshot. I guess you can change the colors easily in the "xml" files and the like .. > > Could you post a screenshot? > > -- > Leon > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Nicu Buculei wrote: > Andy Shellam wrote: >> Hi Mairin, >> >> I'd tried that - I'd found the same tutorial in various different >> versions across the Net. > > Guess what? I followed the same document and it worked perfectly from > the first try... (http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/temp/splash.xpm.gz) > >> It might help to know that the image I created was in GIMP 2.2.11, >> developed on both an FC5 and Windows XP system under GIMP (I believe >> the tutorial was on GIMP 1.x so I'm not sure if file formats have >> changed or anything silly like that.) > > I used whatever Gimp is in updates for FC5, 2.2.12-1 and worked as > expected. > >> If need be I could send the image for someone to take a look at? > > I guess we can have a look at it, you must be doing something wrong. > >> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >>> >>> Ok, so one of the installer team guys pointed me to this article on >>> customizing GRUB's boot screen: >>> >>> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/LG/current/jayanth.html > From sdl.web at gmail.com Mon Jul 17 19:15:54 2006 From: sdl.web at gmail.com (Leon) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 20:15:54 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 6 Theme Update In-Reply-To: <52426.194.94.224.254.1152974261.squirrel@arlette.freesurf.fr> (Joachim Frieben's message of "Sat, 15 Jul 2006 16:37:41 +0200 (CEST)") References: <52426.194.94.224.254.1152974261.squirrel@arlette.freesurf.fr> Message-ID: Thanks Joachim. I like their gtk theme! It's based on clearlooks engine but with some nice changes. "Joachim Frieben" writes: > Sure, the binary package is available at: > > http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=38290&PHPSESSID=6 > > I have attached a screenshot. I guess you can change the colors easily in > the "xml" files and the like .. > >> >> Could you post a screenshot? >> >> -- >> Leon >> > > -- Leon From dfong at redhat.com Mon Jul 17 22:18:37 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 18:18:37 -0400 Subject: wallpaper poll for FC6T2 In-Reply-To: <20060715103502.uhgdilyjkg88wk48@webmail.corp.redhat.com> References: <44B81FCF.8000207@redhat.com> <20060715103502.uhgdilyjkg88wk48@webmail.corp.redhat.com> Message-ID: <44BC0CBD.90709@redhat.com> duffy at redhat.com wrote: > Got a couple of other concerns here besides licensing: > > Quoting Diana Fong : >> I'm currently taking suggestions and a poll for the default wallpaper >> of fc6t2. Got a wallpaper you like and think others would >> too...please nominate and vote here. > > 1) Is this just for FC6 test 2 or is this for FC6 - the quality we > accept for a > test release does not have to be as high for a final release. This is for fc6 test 2. > > 2) If is *is* for FC6 - should we have decided on an overall theme before > choosing a wallpaper so everything is integrated? Eg one idea you > mentioned to > me was a 'graffiti' style. It is _not_ for FC6...thought it could be. Yes I did mention a graffiti style...it's an idea I'd like to try out and was going to assign to my summer intern...but alas. My intern is no more. I will explore it later but it will most likely not be a default theme. From what I can tell from the responses I've received, it seems that the majority would want a more subtle look...and the graffiti style is on the bold side. ;) Though you all can correct me if I'm wrong. =) Diana From dfong at redhat.com Tue Jul 18 02:09:30 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:09:30 -0400 Subject: wallpaper poll for FC6T2 In-Reply-To: <44B8D4EE.7020909@mesias.co.uk> References: <44B81FCF.8000207@redhat.com> <44B8D4EE.7020909@mesias.co.uk> Message-ID: <44BC42DA.7010109@redhat.com> Cam wrote: > Are there any guidelines about the type of wallpaper? Nothing specifically...preferably something that is/could be Fedora branded (though I'm not sure what the Fedora legal state is right now) but nice photos are good too. As always, no nudes and other questionable content. ;) > Is it possible to have a default available for different aspect ratio > screens? In the past I have noticed the default 4:3 scaled into a > widescreen display, it looks a bit strange. We are definitely looking into this...we currently have two bugs on our FC6 tracker...one about making default backgrounds work for widescreen monitors (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=175303) and another bug for dual head monitors (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=176371). Diana From box at mjungle.it Tue Jul 18 14:16:37 2006 From: box at mjungle.it (Marco D'Amico) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 16:16:37 +0200 Subject: how to change the RHGB? Message-ID: <44BCED45.40705@mjungle.it> Hi all, I would like to change the RHGB background but I haven't found a guide that explain it. Does anyone know how to change the background image or background color of RHGB? Thank you. Marco -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Marco D'Amico wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to change the RHGB background but I haven't found a guide > that explain it. > Does anyone know how to change the background image or background > color of RHGB? > > Thank you. > > Marco > !DSPAM:14,44bcebef34538086212115! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > !DSPAM:14,44bcebef34538086212115! > -- Andy Shellam , the Mail Network NetServe Support - we don't go the extra mile; we go the whole distance! p: (+44) 0 845 838 0879 / +44 0 7818 000834 w: www.mailnetwork.co.uk e: support at mailnetwork.co.uk From box at mjungle.it Tue Jul 18 14:58:40 2006 From: box at mjungle.it (Marco D'Amico) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 16:58:40 +0200 Subject: how to change the RHGB? In-Reply-To: <44BCF002.6050100@andycc.net> References: <44BCED45.40705@mjungle.it> <44BCF002.6050100@andycc.net> Message-ID: <44BCF720.5040408@mjungle.it> Andy Shellam ha scritto: > Hi Marco, > [...] > The only things you can change easily at the moment are the throbber > animation (the chasing circles), the word "fedora" in the bottom-right > corner, and the main fedora "f" logo in the middle. These are all PNG > images in /usr/share/rhgb. Hi Andy, thanks for your answer. I have already changed the "main-logo.png" file, but I would like to change the background. The solutions that you have sent me It's very difficult to do for me. I will attend the next evolutions. Thank you. Marco From andy at andycc.net Tue Jul 18 15:01:06 2006 From: andy at andycc.net (Andy Shellam) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 16:01:06 +0100 Subject: how to change the RHGB? In-Reply-To: <44BCF720.5040408@mjungle.it> References: <44BCED45.40705@mjungle.it> <44BCF002.6050100@andycc.net> <44BCF720.5040408@mjungle.it> Message-ID: <44BCF7B2.1080403@andycc.net> Yes I know it is awkward. It would be so much easier if Fedora used the bootsplash package like a lot of other distros such as SuSE, but for now that's all we're able to customise without delving into the code :( Andy. Marco D'Amico wrote: > Andy Shellam ha scritto: > >> Hi Marco, >> [...] >> The only things you can change easily at the moment are the throbber >> animation (the chasing circles), the word "fedora" in the bottom-right >> corner, and the main fedora "f" logo in the middle. These are all PNG >> images in /usr/share/rhgb. >> > > Hi Andy, > thanks for your answer. I have already changed the "main-logo.png" file, > but I would like to change the background. > The solutions that you have sent me It's very difficult to do for me. > > I will attend the next evolutions. > > Thank you. > > Marco > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > !DSPAM:14,44bcf5c034536219673168! > > > -- Andy Shellam , the Mail Network NetServe Support - we don't go the extra mile; we go the whole distance! p: (+44) 0 845 838 0879 / +44 0 7818 000834 w: www.mailnetwork.co.uk e: support at mailnetwork.co.uk From duffy at redhat.com Tue Jul 18 15:08:20 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:08:20 -0400 Subject: how to change the RHGB? In-Reply-To: <44BCF7B2.1080403@andycc.net> References: <44BCED45.40705@mjungle.it> <44BCF002.6050100@andycc.net> <44BCF720.5040408@mjungle.it> <44BCF7B2.1080403@andycc.net> Message-ID: <44BCF964.4080905@redhat.com> Marco & Andy, Andy Shellam wrote: > Yes I know it is awkward. It would be so much easier if Fedora used the > bootsplash package like a lot of other distros such as SuSE, but for now > that's all we're able to customise without delving into the code :( Hey, if you'd like to change the colors there, feel free to put some mockups up on the wiki (or mail to the list) including the color codes and I'm sure someone will be able to work out a tutorial on how to implement it. Don't feel as if you can't submit a cool design just because you're not sure how to implement it - mockups are perfectly sufficient. I think it'd be cool to start a Fedora art customization community on deviant art so that we can all share our mockups and network with people who can implement them and submit them to sites like art.gnome.org and have them available on the Fedoraproject wiki. btw I'd love to see any screenshots of your custom rhgb screens btw :) Wondering how you've got it looking! ;-) ~m From stevelist at silverorange.com Tue Jul 18 15:16:51 2006 From: stevelist at silverorange.com (Steven Garrity) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:16:51 -0400 Subject: how to change the RHGB? In-Reply-To: <44BCF7B2.1080403@andycc.net> References: <44BCED45.40705@mjungle.it> <44BCF002.6050100@andycc.net> <44BCF720.5040408@mjungle.it> <44BCF7B2.1080403@andycc.net> Message-ID: <44BCFB63.1060503@silverorange.com> Andy Shellam wrote: > Yes I know it is awkward. It would be so much easier if Fedora used the > bootsplash package like a lot of other distros such as SuSE, but for now > that's all we're able to customise without delving into the code :( I recall mentions of early-GDM as a replacement for RHGB prior to FC5. Obviously, that didn't make it into FC5 - what about FC6? Perhaps we won't even have RHGB? There's some talk of killing the splashscreen on Gnome startup as well (on the gnome-desktop-devel list). Cheers, Steven Garrity From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Jul 18 16:04:12 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 21:34:12 +0530 Subject: how to change the RHGB? In-Reply-To: <44BCF7B2.1080403@andycc.net> References: <44BCED45.40705@mjungle.it> <44BCF002.6050100@andycc.net> <44BCF720.5040408@mjungle.it> <44BCF7B2.1080403@andycc.net> Message-ID: <44BD067C.7000407@fedoraproject.org> Andy Shellam wrote: > Yes I know it is awkward. It would be so much easier if Fedora used the > bootsplash package like a lot of other distros such as SuSE, but for now > that's all we're able to customise without delving into the code :( > > Andy. Patching the kernel like bootsplash is not a option for Fedora. Rahul From andy at andycc.net Tue Jul 18 17:42:35 2006 From: andy at andycc.net (Andy Shellam) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:42:35 +0100 Subject: how to change the RHGB? In-Reply-To: <44BD067C.7000407@fedoraproject.org> References: <44BCED45.40705@mjungle.it> <44BCF002.6050100@andycc.net> <44BCF720.5040408@mjungle.it> <44BCF7B2.1080403@andycc.net> <44BD067C.7000407@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <44BD1D8B.4000300@andycc.net> No I know, I tried it!! Mairim my customised RHGB is for a business e-mail server - the word "fedora" is replaced with "Endeavour-3" (the name of the server), and the fedora "f" logo is replaced with the business logo - the e-mail shield as on www.mailnetwork.co.uk. The "throbber" is a flashing mail icon. I can post screenshots if you like - and if you can tell me how to take a screendump while Fedora is booting :P Rahul wrote: > Patching the kernel like bootsplash is not a option for Fedora. > > Rahul > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > !DSPAM:14,44bd068734531656018129! > > From box at mjungle.it Wed Jul 19 15:59:35 2006 From: box at mjungle.it (Marco D'Amico) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:59:35 +0200 Subject: how to change the RHGB? In-Reply-To: <44BCF964.4080905@redhat.com> References: <44BCED45.40705@mjungle.it> <44BCF002.6050100@andycc.net> <44BCF720.5040408@mjungle.it> <44BCF7B2.1080403@andycc.net> <44BCF964.4080905@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44BE56E7.7020006@mjungle.it> M?ir?n Duffy ha scritto: > btw I'd love to see any screenshots of your custom rhgb screens btw :) > Wondering how you've got it looking! ;-) Hi M?ir?n, I have made a new graphic set for fedora. I wanted to change the color of the RHGB background, but how you said yesterday, now it isn't possible to change it. If you want to see this new set called "Cormano": http://www.mjungle.it/~fedora/artwork/ I accept every suggestions or critics. I have a question: Is it possible to use the CC attribution licence with the Fedora logo? Thank you. Marco From sdl.web at gmail.com Thu Jul 20 01:16:34 2006 From: sdl.web at gmail.com (Leon) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 02:16:34 +0100 Subject: Fedora Core 6 Theme Update In-Reply-To: <44B7F198.5080601@redhat.com> (=?utf-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4=?= Duffy's message of "Fri, 14 Jul 2006 15:33:44 -0400") References: <44B7F198.5080601@redhat.com> Message-ID: M?ir?n Duffy writes: > Hey Everybody, > > So some of you may have seen the quite famous by now :) Gentle Gnome > GTK/metacity mockups that Bert Bruggeman created [1]. > > How does everybody feel about the possibility of using a look like > this as the default theme for FC 6? Arthurva Gore has put together a > pixmap GTK theme that matches Bert's mockups pretty closely, and there > are a lot of Clearlooks metacity themes that work well with the theme. > > I took a screenshot [2] using Arthurva's GTK theme and the > Clearlooks-BlackMod theme [3] on a relatively fresh install of FC5. > > What do you all think? I think Arthurva's got it far enough along that > we'd have some time to make minor tweaks if we wanted. The two things > I noticed about it are the tabs are a little undefined (eg in Firefox) > and the progress bar is a little weird. > > Any suggestions welcome! :) > > ~m > > [1] http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31128 > [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemeConcepts > [3] http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=40156 > Tango project has a nice mockup: http://tango.freedesktop.org/Window_Experiments -- Leon From n.losito at yahoo.it Thu Jul 20 07:42:18 2006 From: n.losito at yahoo.it (Nicola Losito) Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:42:18 +0200 Subject: how to change the RHGB? In-Reply-To: <44BE56E7.7020006@mjungle.it> References: <44BCED45.40705@mjungle.it> <44BCF002.6050100@andycc.net> <44BCF720.5040408@mjungle.it> <44BCF7B2.1080403@andycc.net> <44BCF964.4080905@redhat.com> <44BE56E7.7020006@mjungle.it> Message-ID: <17EB8130-4BAF-4876-A68B-9C1684CE1119@yahoo.it> Il giorno 19/lug/06, alle ore 17:59, Marco D'Amico ha scritto: > If you want to see this new set called "Cormano": > http://www.mjungle.it/~fedora/artwork/ > > I accept every suggestions or critics. Ciao Marco, i like your works, but in some ways they are not "killer" to me because: - remember me the "old" FC3/4 rigorous look - too business and not enough exitement - it would also be nice a gdm greeter with support to "faces", or the list of the machine users, in a home environment it can come handy. BTW thanks for having done that work ! -- Nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. Losito http://www.koolinus.net http://koolinus.wordpress.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Barnes) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 18:03:50 -0500 Subject: two questions about the Fedora Logo In-Reply-To: <44C0E25A.6070100@mjungle.it> References: <44C0E25A.6070100@mjungle.it> Message-ID: <200607211803.55203.nman64@n-man.com> On Friday 21 July 2006 09:19, "Marco D'Amico" wrote: > Hi, > > I have two questions. > The first: Is it possible to use the CC attribution license with the > Fedora logo? > The Second: Can I publish my works[1] that showed the Fedora logos on > http://art.gnome.org/ website? > No and no. Since guidelines have not been established to allow the production and distribution of artwork including the Fedora logo, you'll need to request explicit permission for your usage cases. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo The Fedora Advisory Board is discussion options to allow the production and distribution of artwork with the logo, but it will take time for a decision to be reached and for the process or guidelines to be created. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/nman64 Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From duffy at redhat.com Sat Jul 22 06:06:25 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 02:06:25 -0400 Subject: New GDM Theme (was Re: Any theme planned for FC 6) In-Reply-To: <46B82DD0-CC97-4E6E-B674-F4C6C8657192@yahoo.it> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> <44B7A0FA.4050803@andycc.net> <44B7A247.2000100@redhat.com> <46B82DD0-CC97-4E6E-B674-F4C6C8657192@yahoo.it> Message-ID: <44C1C061.3020405@redhat.com> Nicola Losito wrote: > i was > thinking about the possibility to remove the gnome foot in it and fill > in the Fedora bubble logo and colour scheme. > > http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/27841914/ So I started making a Fedora version of the 'Buh' GDM theme. The only problem is I don't have an svg or the font for the Fedora logotype so it's a really ghetto bitmap trace svg right now. Screenshot: http://www.deviantart.com/view/36700219/ GDM Theme File: http://people.redhat.com/duffy/gdm_themes/Buh-Fedora-Rough.tar.gz Anyway if anybody wants to poke at it feel free; everything in it is an Inkscape svg. There are different versions of some of the graphics that aren't used by the theme bundled into the *.tar.gz file. ~m From duffy at redhat.com Sat Jul 22 06:24:27 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 02:24:27 -0400 Subject: New GDM Theme (was Re: Any theme planned for FC 6) In-Reply-To: <44C1C061.3020405@redhat.com> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> <44B7A0FA.4050803@andycc.net> <44B7A247.2000100@redhat.com> <46B82DD0-CC97-4E6E-B674-F4C6C8657192@yahoo.it> <44C1C061.3020405@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44C1C49B.1030200@redhat.com> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > So I started making a Fedora version of the 'Buh' GDM theme. The only > problem is I don't have an svg or the font for the Fedora logotype so > it's a really ghetto bitmap trace svg right now. Here's a variation on the theme; I kinda like it better: http://www.deviantart.com/view/36700985/ ~m From n.losito at yahoo.it Sat Jul 22 07:36:20 2006 From: n.losito at yahoo.it (Nicola Losito) Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 09:36:20 +0200 Subject: New GDM Theme (was Re: Any theme planned for FC 6) In-Reply-To: <44C1C061.3020405@redhat.com> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> <44B7A0FA.4050803@andycc.net> <44B7A247.2000100@redhat.com> <46B82DD0-CC97-4E6E-B674-F4C6C8657192@yahoo.it> <44C1C061.3020405@redhat.com> Message-ID: Il giorno 22/lug/06, alle ore 08:06, M?ir?n Duffy ha scritto: > Nicola Losito wrote: >> i was thinking about the possibility to remove the gnome foot in >> it and fill in the Fedora bubble logo and colour scheme. >> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/27841914/ > > So I started making a Fedora version of the 'Buh' GDM theme. The > only problem is I don't have an svg or the font for the Fedora > logotype so it's a really ghetto bitmap trace svg right now. > > Screenshot: > http://www.deviantart.com/view/36700219/ Well, i must say that i like this one instead of the second alternative you've posted later. Maybe the overall result is a bit "flat" ... I mean, maybe some logos floating up there could be rendered to their "full" tone, or maybe we can find a better contrast around the password field. Also, do you think an orizzontal line cotaining 4/6 faces under the fedora name is horrible ? For the Fedora font itself, it's not a "gpl" or a properly free font, and this was discussed not so long ago in some Fedora mailing list, later this morning i'll digg into my mail archive. For now thanks Mairin ! -- Nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. Losito http://www.koolinus.net http://koolinus.wordpress.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The only > > problem is I don't have an svg or the font for the Fedora logotype so > > it's a really ghetto bitmap trace svg right now. > > Here's a variation on the theme; I kinda like it better: > > http://www.deviantart.com/view/36700985/ I like the fact that the second one has the required interaction menus for disconnection and such, however it lacks our snazzy new logo and feels a bit flat. A combination of the two might be nice, drop the bubbles and keep the subtle traced logo. I'm assuming that the "fedora" is the system name, after all this is MY system, not Fedoras system - it just happens to run Fedora. Both however are improvements over the one we have now. Good work - David Nielsen From duffy at redhat.com Mon Jul 24 00:30:04 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:30:04 -0400 Subject: New GDM Theme (was Re: Any theme planned for FC 6) In-Reply-To: <1153566782.3351.16.camel@price> References: <44B6B396.8080706@andycc.net> <44B71A0B.3010202@fedoraproject.org> <44B72CCD.6060900@nicubunu.ro> <44B7550C.2040201@andycc.net> <44B79CA6.8050103@redhat.com> <44B7A0FA.4050803@andycc.net> <44B7A247.2000100@redhat.com> <46B82DD0-CC97-4E6E-B674-F4C6C8657192@yahoo.it> <44C1C061.3020405@redhat.com> <44C1C49B.1030200@redhat.com> <1153566782.3351.16.camel@price> Message-ID: <44C4148C.70609@redhat.com> Hi David, David Nielsen wrote: >> http://www.deviantart.com/view/36700985/ > > I like the fact that the second one has the required interaction menus > for disconnection and such Actually they are in it if you download it and install it. I don't have Xnest setup on this machine so I just took a screenshot using the gdm theme tester. The menu was positioned too low on the screen in the first theme to appear in the screenshot (cut off by the panel). , however it lacks our snazzy new logo and > feels a bit flat. A combination of the two might be nice, drop the > bubbles and keep the subtle traced logo. OK I'll keep that in mind. :) Also anybody can feel free to play around with what I did so far - that's why I made it available. :) > I'm assuming that the "fedora" is the system name, after all this is MY > system, not Fedoras system - it just happens to run Fedora. No, the Fedora in the theme is the Fedora logotype. It's not a free font and we can't distribute it so it wouldn't really be possible to have peoples' system names in that font. > Both however are improvements over the one we have now. Good work Cool, thanks for the feedback. :) ~m From duffy at redhat.com Mon Jul 24 06:17:43 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 02:17:43 -0400 Subject: Yet Another GDM Theme Message-ID: <44C46607.3060201@redhat.com> So I've found that making GDM themes is a good way to pass the time while waiting for laundry to finish. :) http://www.deviantart.com/view/36802558/ This one uses a graffiti-style version of the Fedora logo 'f.' It's still a little rough in that there's a gap in the background pattern under the 'f' and I want to modify the login box to match the general style of the rest of the stuff in it (probably kill the drop shadows and add a nice thick black outline or some such.) But you get the general idea. You can download the actual theme here: http://www.deviantart.com/download/36802558/ Anyway, it's something different. If you want any of the individual logos I came up with for the background pattern I put SVGs of each one here: http://people.redhat.com/duffy/fedora-graffiti/ Missing 'Jet Grind Radio,' ~m :) From n.losito at yahoo.it Mon Jul 24 06:39:19 2006 From: n.losito at yahoo.it (Nicola Losito) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 08:39:19 +0200 Subject: Yet Another GDM Theme In-Reply-To: <44C46607.3060201@redhat.com> References: <44C46607.3060201@redhat.com> Message-ID: Il giorno 24/lug/06, alle ore 08:17, M?ir?n Duffy ha scritto: > So I've found that making GDM themes is a good way to pass the time > while waiting for laundry to finish. :) > > http://www.deviantart.com/view/36802558/ LOL This one il like "Pimp my Fedora" of MTV's pimp my car tv show fame. -- Nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. Losito http://www.koolinus.net http://koolinus.wordpress.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: smiley-3.png Type: image/png Size: 819 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sdl.web at gmail.com Mon Jul 24 14:34:41 2006 From: sdl.web at gmail.com (Leon) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:34:41 +0100 Subject: My Introduction In-Reply-To: <1153713142.2546.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> (Mola pahnadayan's message of "Mon, 24 Jul 2006 07:22:22 +0330") References: <1153713142.2546.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Mola pahnadayan writes: > Hi all , > > I use gimp and blender :) > > http://art.gnome.org/users/mola/themes/ > http://art.gnome.org/users/mola/backgrounds/ > http://www.fedoraforum.org/gallery/browseimages.php?do=member&imageuser=31485 > http://gug.sunsite.dk/gallery.php?artist=226&PHPSESSID= > 56337c61cb3df2fbc4cb5e7d207ff81c Dear Mola, Welcome to Fedora art community! -- Leon From david at lovesunix.net Mon Jul 24 14:49:30 2006 From: david at lovesunix.net (David Nielsen) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:49:30 +0200 Subject: Yet Another GDM Theme In-Reply-To: <44C46607.3060201@redhat.com> References: <44C46607.3060201@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1153752570.1505.86.camel@price> man, 24 07 2006 kl. 02:17 -0400, skrev M?ir?n Duffy: > So I've found that making GDM themes is a good way to pass the time > while waiting for laundry to finish. :) > > http://www.deviantart.com/view/36802558/ > > This one uses a graffiti-style version of the Fedora logo 'f.' It's > still a little rough in that there's a gap in the background pattern > under the 'f' and I want to modify the login box to match the general > style of the rest of the stuff in it (probably kill the drop shadows and > add a nice thick black outline or some such.) But you get the general > idea. Dear god what's next, will we be renaming the distro to Fe-fizzle-dora-dizzle and get an endorsement from Snoop Dogg? this is just wrong.. wrong I tell you, on so many levels. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm so deeply disturbed I'll go lie down and recover. - David From duffy at redhat.com Thu Jul 27 14:07:16 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:07:16 -0400 Subject: [Fwd: [Tango-artists] Re: Tango icons licensing] Message-ID: <44C8C894.2020002@redhat.com> FYI, thought this was interesting. ~m -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Tango-artists] Re: Tango icons licensing Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:21:10 +0200 From: Morten Omholt Alver To: tango-artists at lists.freedesktop.org References: <8a363cdc0607250949k27c34a77h8d50ed50c036e87d at mail.gmail.com> Hi, I can now give an answer to my own question (quoted below), just in case it could be of interest here. I sent an e-mail to the FSF as well as this mailing list, and have now received an answer confirming that artwork is no different from libraries in relation to the GPL. Thus, it is not possible for a GPL application to be distributed with artwork licensed (only) under this Creative Commons license. That settles the matter for my part - I have to look for icons elsewhere. Regards, Morten O. Alver On 25/07/06, Morten Omholt Alver wrote: > Hi, > > I have a question about licensing of the Tango icon set. As stated on > the web page, the icons are licensed under the terms of the Creative > Commons Attribution Share-Alike license. > > According to the Free Software Foundation, this license is not > compatible with the GPL, but it is not clear to me whether this > incompatibility causes problems when the CC license is applied to > artwork only. > > I am interested in using the Tango icons for an application which is > GPL licensed. Is is possible to distribute and use the icons with this > application, even though the GPL cannot be applied to the icons? If > not, I would be puzzled by the choice of the CC license for Tango, > since the web page specifically mentions the creation of themes for > GPL environments like KDE and Gnome. > > I have found it difficult to track down an answer to this question, so > I'm asking this mailing list in the hope that someone here has > considered this issue. > > > Regards, > Morten O. Alver > _______________________________________________ Tango-artists mailing list Tango-artists at lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/tango-artists From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Jul 27 14:24:31 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:24:31 +0300 Subject: [Fwd: [Tango-artists] Re: Tango icons licensing] In-Reply-To: <44C8C894.2020002@redhat.com> References: <44C8C894.2020002@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44C8CC9F.2070306@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > FYI, thought this was interesting. May I ask which license is recommended by FSF for artwork? Or which licenses for artwork are compatible with the GPL? We have heard from a long time from CreativeCommons supporters that GPL is not a good license for artwork, being by design a license for code not for art (and this sound reasonable, we can't really talk about the source code of a PNG or OGG). > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [Tango-artists] Re: Tango icons licensing > > I can now give an answer to my own question (quoted below), just in > case it could be of interest here. I sent an e-mail to the FSF as well > as this mailing list, and have now received an answer confirming that > artwork is no different from libraries in relation to the GPL. Thus, > it is not possible for a GPL application to be distributed with > artwork licensed (only) under this Creative Commons license. That > settles the matter for my part - I have to look for icons elsewhere. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From stevelist at silverorange.com Thu Jul 27 14:38:08 2006 From: stevelist at silverorange.com (Steven Garrity) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 11:38:08 -0300 Subject: [Fwd: [Tango-artists] Re: Tango icons licensing] In-Reply-To: <44C8CC9F.2070306@nicubunu.ro> References: <44C8C894.2020002@redhat.com> <44C8CC9F.2070306@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <44C8CFD0.1050308@silverorange.com> Nicu Buculei wrote: > May I ask which license is recommended by FSF for artwork? Or which > licenses for artwork are compatible with the GPL? > > We have heard from a long time from CreativeCommons supporters that GPL > is not a good license for artwork, being by design a license for code > not for art (and this sound reasonable, we can't really talk about the > source code of a PNG or OGG). The next version of the CC licenses should be released soon (within a month, I heard at the Desktop Developers Conference last week). I understand the updates are intended to address some of these incompatibilities with GPL. That said, I don't really know what I'm talking about. Cheers, Steven Garrity From box at mjungle.it Thu Jul 27 15:24:31 2006 From: box at mjungle.it (Marco D'Amico) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:24:31 +0200 Subject: how to write effective mailing list email Message-ID: <44C8DAAF.2050703@mjungle.it> Hello, several person subscribed in this list don't know the basic rules to write in the mailing list. Please, read these suggestions: http://www.digital-web.com/articles/how_to_write_effective_mailing_list_email/ Cheers. Marco D'Amico From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Jul 27 15:20:41 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 20:50:41 +0530 Subject: how to write effective mailing list email In-Reply-To: <44C8DAAF.2050703@mjungle.it> References: <44C8DAAF.2050703@mjungle.it> Message-ID: <44C8D9C9.3000606@fedoraproject.org> Marco D'Amico wrote: > Hello, > several person subscribed in this list don't know the basic rules to > write in the mailing list. > Please, read these suggestions: > http://www.digital-web.com/articles/how_to_write_effective_mailing_list_email/ > We do have our guidelines at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MailinglistGuidelines Rahul From box at mjungle.it Thu Jul 27 15:45:10 2006 From: box at mjungle.it (Marco D'Amico) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:45:10 +0200 Subject: how to write effective mailing list email In-Reply-To: <44C8D9C9.3000606@fedoraproject.org> References: <44C8DAAF.2050703@mjungle.it> <44C8D9C9.3000606@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <44C8DF86.4000700@mjungle.it> Rahul ha scritto: > We do have our guidelines at > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MailinglistGuidelines This is better. Thanks for your suggestion. Cheers. Marco D'Amico From dimitris at glezos.com Thu Jul 27 15:49:09 2006 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:49:09 +0100 Subject: [Fwd: [Tango-artists] Re: Tango icons licensing] In-Reply-To: <44C8CFD0.1050308@silverorange.com> References: <44C8C894.2020002@redhat.com> <44C8CC9F.2070306@nicubunu.ro> <44C8CFD0.1050308@silverorange.com> Message-ID: <44C8E075.1010601@glezos.com> O/H Steven Garrity ??????: > Nicu Buculei wrote: >> May I ask which license is recommended by FSF for artwork? Or which >> licenses for artwork are compatible with the GPL? >> >> We have heard from a long time from CreativeCommons supporters that >> GPL is not a good license for artwork, being by design a license for >> code not for art (and this sound reasonable, we can't really talk >> about the source code of a PNG or OGG). > > > The next version of the CC licenses should be released soon (within a > month, I heard at the Desktop Developers Conference last week). I > understand the updates are intended to address some of these > incompatibilities with GPL. I'm sure the Tango people would like their work to be compatible with the GPL. Probably you should ask their position about this, since it would be great if we could include it in GPL applications in Fedora. -dim > > That said, I don't really know what I'm talking about. > > Cheers, > Steven Garrity > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From n.losito at yahoo.it Thu Jul 27 17:20:52 2006 From: n.losito at yahoo.it (Nicola Losito) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:20:52 +0200 Subject: Fedora desktop experience Message-ID: Hi list, i've got a question ... what it is supposed to be the default mailing list where to talk about the "desktop experience" going on Fedora ? I mean, where can i discuss issues regarding "pop up notification" of some event, graphical boot and graphical shutdown, effects happening on some events (have you see the "fading" effect on Ubuntu when one has to insert the admin password ?). Things like that. Thanks in advance, Nicola -- Nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. Losito http://www.koolinus.net http://koolinus.wordpress.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Things like that. > Fedora Desktop list obviously, http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Jul 27 23:30:50 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 05:00:50 +0530 Subject: Tango Icon theme package Message-ID: <44C94CAA.60709@fedoraproject.org> Hi https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=200438 The theme is being packaged and reviewed for inclusion in Fedora Extras. Just passing on the inforamtion for all those who wanted to use it. Rahul From stevelist at silverorange.com Fri Jul 28 00:26:26 2006 From: stevelist at silverorange.com (Steven Garrity) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:26:26 -0300 Subject: Tango Icon theme package In-Reply-To: <44C94CAA.60709@fedoraproject.org> References: <44C94CAA.60709@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <44C959B2.5080201@silverorange.com> Rahul wrote: > The theme is being packaged and reviewed for inclusion in Fedora Extras. > Just passing on the inforamtion for all those who wanted to use it. That's great - thanks! Steven Garrity From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Jul 28 06:54:35 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:54:35 +0300 Subject: [Fwd: [Tango-artists] Re: Tango icons licensing] In-Reply-To: <44C8E075.1010601@glezos.com> References: <44C8C894.2020002@redhat.com> <44C8CC9F.2070306@nicubunu.ro> <44C8CFD0.1050308@silverorange.com> <44C8E075.1010601@glezos.com> Message-ID: <44C9B4AB.9010403@nicubunu.ro> Dimitris Glezos wrote: > > I'm sure the Tango people would like their work to be compatible with > the GPL. Probably you should ask their position about this, since it > would be great if we could include it in GPL applications in Fedora. I think here is a good place to talk, as this talk will help choose the right license for the new Fedora icon set, which may or may not be licensed under CC (the current idea being to use the same license as Tango, to preserve the ability to reuse some elements). -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From sdl.web at gmail.com Fri Jul 28 09:03:54 2006 From: sdl.web at gmail.com (Leon) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:03:54 +0100 Subject: Tango Icon theme package In-Reply-To: <44C94CAA.60709@fedoraproject.org> (Rahul's message of "Fri, 28 Jul 2006 05:00:50 +0530") References: <44C94CAA.60709@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Rahul writes: > Hi > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=200438 > > The theme is being packaged and reviewed for inclusion in Fedora > Extras. Just passing on the inforamtion for all those who wanted to > use it. > > Rahul > Thank you! -- Leon From box at mjungle.it Fri Jul 28 09:18:05 2006 From: box at mjungle.it (Marco D'Amico) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:18:05 +0200 Subject: Tango Icon theme package In-Reply-To: <44C94CAA.60709@fedoraproject.org> References: <44C94CAA.60709@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <44C9D64D.9080800@mjungle.it> Rahul ha scritto: > The theme is being packaged and reviewed for inclusion in Fedora Extras. > Just passing on the inforamtion for all those who wanted to use it. It's a good news! Thanks a lot. Marco D'Amico From dfong at redhat.com Fri Jul 28 15:08:39 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:08:39 -0400 Subject: Odd-sized wallpaper In-Reply-To: References: <44B81FCF.8000207@redhat.com> <44B8D4EE.7020909@mesias.co.uk> <44B90CCE.7050907@kobold.org> Message-ID: <44CA2877.10709@redhat.com> Just an update to the question of odd-sized wallpapers for wide screen, dual monitors and the like...the problems have been filed as bugs [1 & 2] but it looks like currently the solution is to provide a set of wallpapers in 5 popular sizes. It would be awesome if someone (with more technical skills than I) can look into tweaking some code to allow the proper (or best fit) wallpaper to be chosen depending on the screen size. Diana [1] backgrounds for widescreen monitors (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=175303) [2] dual head monitors (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=176371) Leon wrote: > Wart writes: > > >> Cam wrote: >> >>> Is it possible to have a default available for different aspect ratio >>> screens? In the past I have noticed the default 4:3 scaled into a >>> widescreen display, it looks a bit strange. >>> >> I would second this suggestion, but would like to see it taken even >> further. Multi-head displays are becoming more common these days, but >> most wallpaper isn't designed to look very good when spread across >> multiple displays. Mostly this is due to the aspect ratio, but also >> because the wallpapers don't look very interesting when tiled across >> multiple displays. >> >> I'd like to see at least a minimal set of wallpapers for additional >> resolutions/aspect ratios, like widescreen, 3200x1200, 6400x1200, and >> various combinations of multi-head widescreen displays. >> >> --Mike >> >> > > I think making wallpapers for all resolutions is not too hard. But > let's focus on recommending more wallpapers to rock fc6. > > From duffy at redhat.com Fri Jul 28 15:16:39 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:16:39 -0400 Subject: graffiti wallpaper Message-ID: <44CA2A57.1020101@redhat.com> Hi, I made a graffiti-style Fedora wallpaper to go with the GDM theme - http://www.deviantart.com/view/37028016/ There's a few variations included in the zip file - it's got the original GIMP source file and 5 variations in PNG format. Here's some previews: http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/graffiti-mania-plain.png http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/graffiti-mania-clean.png The brushes I used for the splatters are available here: http://www.deviantart.com/view/23960649/ ~m From sdl.web at gmail.com Fri Jul 28 16:45:48 2006 From: sdl.web at gmail.com (Leon) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:45:48 +0100 Subject: graffiti wallpaper In-Reply-To: <44CA2A57.1020101@redhat.com> (=?utf-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4=?= Duffy's message of "Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:16:39 -0400") References: <44CA2A57.1020101@redhat.com> Message-ID: M?ir?n Duffy writes: > Hi, > > I made a graffiti-style Fedora wallpaper to go with the GDM theme - > > http://www.deviantart.com/view/37028016/ > > There's a few variations included in the zip file - it's got the > original GIMP source file and 5 variations in PNG format. Here's some > previews: > > http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/graffiti-mania-plain.png > http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/graffiti-mania-clean.png > > The brushes I used for the splatters are available here: > > http://www.deviantart.com/view/23960649/ > > ~m > Thank you for the work:-) -- Leon From sdl.web at gmail.com Fri Jul 28 17:16:48 2006 From: sdl.web at gmail.com (Leon) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:16:48 +0100 Subject: [Suggestion]Tango variant for Fedora Message-ID: Hi all, As the best and most complete icon theme, I think it will do good to our community by providing a variant of tango icon theme for Fedora extras. A lot of other distros are doing this; not to mention Novell/SUSE, UBUNTU has quite a few variants by the community and its artwork developers for example Tangerine?. We only need to change 5 icons to get a great theme out of tango: Folder, Computer, Home, Desktop and Harddrive. Footnotes: ? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=37099 Thanks, -- Leon From box at mjungle.it Fri Jul 28 17:42:25 2006 From: box at mjungle.it (Marco D'Amico) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:42:25 +0200 Subject: [Suggestion]Tango variant for Fedora In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44CA4C81.4060207@mjungle.it> Leon ha scritto: > We only need to change 5 icons to get a great theme out of tango: > Folder, Computer, Home, Desktop and Harddrive. I'm agree with you. I prefer this solution for the next release. Marco D'Amico From duffy at redhat.com Fri Jul 28 17:46:45 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:46:45 -0400 Subject: [Suggestion]Tango variant for Fedora In-Reply-To: <44CA4C81.4060207@mjungle.it> References: <44CA4C81.4060207@mjungle.it> Message-ID: <44CA4D85.3080202@redhat.com> Marco D'Amico wrote: > Leon ha scritto: >> We only need to change 5 icons to get a great theme out of tango: >> Folder, Computer, Home, Desktop and Harddrive. > > I'm agree with you. I prefer this solution for the next release. No opposition here. If anybody who has the art skills would like to do this feel free. ~m From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Jul 28 17:53:08 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:23:08 +0530 Subject: [Suggestion]Tango variant for Fedora In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44CA4F04.4030502@fedoraproject.org> Leon wrote: > Hi all, > > As the best and most complete icon theme, I think it will do good to > our community by providing a variant of tango icon theme for Fedora > extras. A lot of other distros are doing this; not to mention > Novell/SUSE, UBUNTU has quite a few variants by the community and its > artwork developers for example Tangerine?. > > We only need to change 5 icons to get a great theme out of tango: > Folder, Computer, Home, Desktop and Harddrive. > Go ahead, do it, package it, provide it and have a blast. Rahul From david at lovesunix.net Fri Jul 28 18:35:26 2006 From: david at lovesunix.net (David Nielsen) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 20:35:26 +0200 Subject: [Suggestion]Tango variant for Fedora In-Reply-To: <44CA4C81.4060207@mjungle.it> References: <44CA4C81.4060207@mjungle.it> Message-ID: <1154111727.3673.166.camel@price> fre, 28 07 2006 kl. 19:42 +0200, skrev Marco D'Amico: > Leon ha scritto: > > We only need to change 5 icons to get a great theme out of tango: > > Folder, Computer, Home, Desktop and Harddrive. > > I'm agree with you. I prefer this solution for the next release. I absolutely agree, these icons are much nicer than the proposal for FC6, then again I'm a big Tango supporter why not a blue alternative. I'd still like the standard Tango as our default better but these would definitely make a nice addition. - David From dimitris at glezos.com Fri Jul 28 19:29:01 2006 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 20:29:01 +0100 Subject: [Suggestion]Tango variant for Fedora In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44CA657D.5080305@glezos.com> O/H Leon ??????: > We only need to change 5 icons to get a great theme out of tango: > Folder, Computer, Home, Desktop and Harddrive. +1. This would be a *great* addition to Fedora. So, as Rahul pointed out the "suggesting is good, acting is better" philosophy, I will do so too: Can you do it, or, is there someone on this list willing to do it? :) -dim -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, PGP: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From duffy at redhat.com Sat Jul 29 01:59:10 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:59:10 -0400 Subject: Yet Another Graffiti Wallpaper Message-ID: <44CAC0EE.6030208@redhat.com> http://mihmo.livejournal.com/30396.html ~m From dimitris at glezos.com Sat Jul 29 02:13:08 2006 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 03:13:08 +0100 Subject: Yet Another Graffiti Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <44CAC0EE.6030208@redhat.com> References: <44CAC0EE.6030208@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44CAC434.10606@glezos.com> O/H M?ir?n Duffy ??????: > http://mihmo.livejournal.com/30396.html M?ir?n, very, *very* good work. =) -dim -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, PGP: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From david at lovesunix.net Sat Jul 29 02:23:04 2006 From: david at lovesunix.net (David Nielsen) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:23:04 +0200 Subject: Yet Another Graffiti Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <44CAC0EE.6030208@redhat.com> References: <44CAC0EE.6030208@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1154139784.20328.16.camel@price> fre, 28 07 2006 kl. 21:59 -0400, skrev M?ir?n Duffy: > http://mihmo.livejournal.com/30396.html > > ~m With all possible respect, I still hate this hip-hop thing, I hope the idea isn't to make this default in FC in anyways - in which case I'd propose seeking an endorsement from Snoop Dogg. - David From duffy at redhat.com Sat Jul 29 02:38:23 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:38:23 -0400 Subject: Yet Another Graffiti Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <1154139784.20328.16.camel@price> References: <44CAC0EE.6030208@redhat.com> <1154139784.20328.16.camel@price> Message-ID: <44CACA1F.208@redhat.com> David Nielsen wrote: > With all possible respect, I still hate this hip-hop thing, I hope the > idea isn't to make this default in FC in anyways - in which case I'd > propose seeking an endorsement from Snoop Dogg. What does graffiti have to do with hip hop? I've seen plenty of Metallica, Joe <3's Sue, and even satanist graffiti.... Graffiti is a style of art that is separate from hip-hop or rap music, as far as I know and have observed. I saw a lot of awesome graffiti when I visited Barcelona recently for GUADEC 2006. For example, check this one out: http://flickr.com/photos/mairin/176274133/ It's a very powerful political statement that doesn't have a whole lot to do with hip-hop. And this one: http://flickr.com/photos/mairin/199600314/ Ninjas and dragons. ~m From nman64 at n-man.com Sat Jul 29 05:12:35 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick W. Barnes) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:12:35 -0500 Subject: Yet Another Graffiti Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <44CACA1F.208@redhat.com> References: <44CAC0EE.6030208@redhat.com> <1154139784.20328.16.camel@price> <44CACA1F.208@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200607290012.39893.nman64@n-man.com> On Friday 28 July 2006 21:38, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > David Nielsen wrote: > > With all possible respect, I still hate this hip-hop thing, I hope the > > idea isn't to make this default in FC in anyways - in which case I'd > > propose seeking an endorsement from Snoop Dogg. > > What does graffiti have to do with hip hop? > > I've seen plenty of Metallica, Joe <3's Sue, and even satanist > graffiti.... Graffiti is a style of art that is separate from hip-hop or > rap music, as far as I know and have observed. > > I saw a lot of awesome graffiti when I visited Barcelona recently for > GUADEC 2006. For example, check this one out: > http://flickr.com/photos/mairin/176274133/ It's a very powerful > political statement that doesn't have a whole lot to do with hip-hop. > And this one: http://flickr.com/photos/mairin/199600314/ Ninjas and > dragons. > There's still a popular perception that graffiti is associated with pop culture and is unprofessional. It could be risky to use graffiti as part of the default theme in Fedora. I think it could be great as an option in a Core installation, just not as the default background. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/nman64 Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ -- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From duffy at redhat.com Sat Jul 29 05:31:19 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 01:31:19 -0400 Subject: Yet Another Graffiti Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <200607290012.39893.nman64@n-man.com> References: <44CAC0EE.6030208@redhat.com> <1154139784.20328.16.camel@price> <44CACA1F.208@redhat.com> <200607290012.39893.nman64@n-man.com> Message-ID: <44CAF2A7.6000507@redhat.com> Patrick W. Barnes wrote: > There's still a popular perception that graffiti is associated with pop > culture and is unprofessional. I've always seen RHEL as being 'professional' or 'enterprise-y' while Fedora as more 'bleeding edge' and 'fun.' > It could be risky to use graffiti as part of > the default theme in Fedora. What is the risk? Don't we already have enough sterile, 'enterprise-ready' artwork out there? Perhaps Linux can grow from a painfully narrow demographic to a much wider one with a bit more variety in the artwork? Maybe we could try to push the edge by having a different theme/style each release? Just some food for thought. I'm not pushing for these to be default, but at the same time, I *am* pretty sick of the same-old, same-old 'sterile' graphic styles. For our last release, we had a bubble theme, which you could say is not 'professional,' but was most definitely 'fun' and generated a lot of excitement around the release. I kind of thought the point of Fedora was to build a community operating system, not to cater to professional types. There are plenty of other distros for that. Thanks, ~m From david at lovesunix.net Sat Jul 29 05:44:20 2006 From: david at lovesunix.net (David Nielsen) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 07:44:20 +0200 Subject: Yet Another Graffiti Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <44CACA1F.208@redhat.com> References: <44CAC0EE.6030208@redhat.com> <1154139784.20328.16.camel@price> <44CACA1F.208@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1154151860.20328.28.camel@price> fre, 28 07 2006 kl. 22:38 -0400, skrev M?ir?n Duffy: > David Nielsen wrote: > > With all possible respect, I still hate this hip-hop thing, I hope the > > idea isn't to make this default in FC in anyways - in which case I'd > > propose seeking an endorsement from Snoop Dogg. > > What does graffiti have to do with hip hop? > > I've seen plenty of Metallica, Joe <3's Sue, and even satanist > graffiti.... Graffiti is a style of art that is separate from hip-hop or > rap music, as far as I know and have observed. All fine examples of what we want people to think of when they use Fedora.. I especially like the satanist suggestion, I have a feeling that might make us popular with the LiveJournal and MySpace crowd. Why not go all out and just get permission to distribute an image of Alice Cooper biting the head off a defenseless kitten or something with ominous bible quotes. Artwork should be culturally neutral, remember what happened when Ubuntu did the semi-naked people image? - David Nielsen From david at lovesunix.net Sat Jul 29 05:53:29 2006 From: david at lovesunix.net (David Nielsen) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 07:53:29 +0200 Subject: Yet Another Graffiti Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <44CAF2A7.6000507@redhat.com> References: <44CAC0EE.6030208@redhat.com> <1154139784.20328.16.camel@price> <44CACA1F.208@redhat.com> <200607290012.39893.nman64@n-man.com> <44CAF2A7.6000507@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1154152409.20328.37.camel@price> l?r, 29 07 2006 kl. 01:31 -0400, skrev M?ir?n Duffy: > For our last release, we had a bubble theme, which you could say is not > 'professional,' but was most definitely 'fun' and generated a lot of > excitement around the release. I kind of thought the point of Fedora was > to build a community operating system, not to cater to professional > types. There are plenty of other distros for that. I was a big fan of the FC5 background I thought it had a nice vibrant feel to it, however if you intend to take the direction of the artwork for Fedora to what I would see in the bathroom stalls at my local pub then I feel it's my place to beg you not to. Another thing is that people definitely do not respond well to their wallpaper basically being advertisement for the distro they run. If you want to appeal to the community many going back to our roots would be a nice gesture. Penguins and the likes, every other distro abandoned that years ago and I think some people might miss that fun aspect of Linux. - David From nman64 at n-man.com Sat Jul 29 06:28:45 2006 From: nman64 at n-man.com (Patrick W. Barnes) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 01:28:45 -0500 Subject: Yet Another Graffiti Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <1154152409.20328.37.camel@price> References: <44CAC0EE.6030208@redhat.com> <44CAF2A7.6000507@redhat.com> <1154152409.20328.37.camel@price> Message-ID: <200607290128.47621.nman64@n-man.com> On Saturday 29 July 2006 00:53, David Nielsen wrote: > > Another thing is that people definitely do not respond well to their > wallpaper basically being advertisement for the distro they run. If you > want to appeal to the community many going back to our roots would be a > nice gesture. Penguins and the likes, every other distro abandoned that > years ago and I think some people might miss that fun aspect of Linux. > Everyone loves penguins. ;-) -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64 at n-man.com http://www.n-man.com/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/nman64 Have I been helpful? 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Barnes wrote: > > There's still a popular perception that graffiti is associated with pop > > culture and is unprofessional. > > I've always seen RHEL as being 'professional' or 'enterprise-y' while > Fedora as more 'bleeding edge' and 'fun.' > > > It could be risky to use graffiti as part of > > the default theme in Fedora. > > What is the risk? > > Don't we already have enough sterile, 'enterprise-ready' artwork out > there? Perhaps Linux can grow from a painfully narrow demographic to a > much wider one with a bit more variety in the artwork? Maybe we could > try to push the edge by having a different theme/style each release? > > Just some food for thought. I'm not pushing for these to be default, but > at the same time, I *am* pretty sick of the same-old, same-old 'sterile' > graphic styles. +1 Do you know that I love you when you say this kind of thing ? :) > > For our last release, we had a bubble theme, which you could say is not > 'professional,' but was most definitely 'fun' and generated a lot of > excitement around the release. I kind of thought the point of Fedora was > to build a community operating system, not to cater to professional > types. There are plenty of other distros for that. > > Thanks, > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Thomas Canniot http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Penguins and the likes, every other distro abandoned that > > years ago and I think some people might miss that fun aspect of Linux. > > > > Everyone loves penguins. ;-) > I think having pinguins on a wallpaper in a linux distro is one of the easiest way not to impress people. Pinguins are a common theme. Too common maybe. Moreover, having pinguins does not make a wallpaper beautiful all the time : http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/642_or/33.png However, the artworks of Mairin and Diana dare doing something that has not been seen before. Fedora is a bleeding edge distro, just make the artwork bleeding edge as well and dare doing it. -- Thomas Canniot http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: fedoralogo.png Type: image/png Size: 52445 bytes Desc: not available URL: From iamseawolf at gmail.com Sun Jul 30 20:32:19 2006 From: iamseawolf at gmail.com (seawolf) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:32:19 +0100 Subject: Yet Another Graffiti Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <44CAF2A7.6000507@redhat.com> References: <44CAC0EE.6030208@redhat.com> <1154139784.20328.16.camel@price> <44CACA1F.208@redhat.com> <200607290012.39893.nman64@n-man.com> <44CAF2A7.6000507@redhat.com> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0607301332r700d3d66g249756e1cc625b8f@mail.gmail.com> On 29/07/06, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Don't we already have enough sterile, 'enterprise-ready' artwork out > there? Perhaps Linux can grow from a painfully narrow demographic to a > much wider one with a bit more variety in the artwork? Maybe we could > try to push the edge by having a different theme/style each release? > > Just some food for thought. I'm not pushing for these to be default, but > at the same time, I *am* pretty sick of the same-old, same-old 'sterile' > graphic styles. In general I do not like graffiti styles - I look for slightly professional wallpapers etc for my desktop. To have an option with a completely different theme is always good; it's creativity and all that urban culture stuff would help FC out of the professional rut as it is a cutting edge distro (as someone said) So thankyou for the contribution, the effort and time which it has obviously taken. My 2 pence. -- ..// seawolf //.. e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core 5 : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From iamseawolf at gmail.com Sun Jul 30 20:38:33 2006 From: iamseawolf at gmail.com (seawolf) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:38:33 +0100 Subject: DNA Wallpaper idea Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0607301338w6ada2628jc19972acce762e6b@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I've started work on a wallpaper and just wondered if you like the way it's going. I'll obviously play around with effects and the actual background but it's the idea behind it. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/36868847/ If anyone feels they can improve it then feel free. Thanks to MD for the inspiration :-) -- ..// seawolf //.. e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core 5 : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From duffy at redhat.com Mon Jul 31 03:23:03 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:23:03 -0400 Subject: DNA Wallpaper idea In-Reply-To: <9c3bfa1d0607301338w6ada2628jc19972acce762e6b@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c3bfa1d0607301338w6ada2628jc19972acce762e6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44CD7797.8080305@redhat.com> Hi seawolf, This is pretty sweet! Do you have any ideas for the background? There's a lot of analogies you could draw between DNA (a biological 'code') and software... plus analogies you can draw between how open source software works (kind of heritage/genealogical thing going on with distros 'inheriting' things from different upstreams) and DNA being passed on down through a family. I was thinking maybe a stream of DNA strands coming from the right fading into 1's and 0's on the left... maybe highlighting the f's in the strands along the way... > If anyone feels they can improve it then feel free. > Thanks to MD for the inspiration :-) Thank you! :) ~m From duffy at redhat.com Mon Jul 31 05:28:58 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:28:58 -0400 Subject: DNA Wallpaper idea In-Reply-To: <9c3bfa1d0607301338w6ada2628jc19972acce762e6b@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c3bfa1d0607301338w6ada2628jc19972acce762e6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44CD951A.7060606@redhat.com> Hey Seawolf, seawolf wrote: > I've started work on a wallpaper and just wondered if you like the way > it's going. I'll obviously play around with effects and the actual > background but it's the idea behind it. > > http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/36868847/ > > If anyone feels they can improve it then feel free. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37183342/ :) I started playing around with the idea some more! ~m From jirxjax at centrum.cz Mon Jul 31 05:49:40 2006 From: jirxjax at centrum.cz ( =?iso-8859-2?Q?Ji=F8=ED?= Jakub =?iso-8859-2?Q?=20Ma=B9ek?=) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:49:40 +0200 Subject: DNA wallpapper Message-ID: <200607310749.18678@centrum.cz> Hi, seawolf, hi people, good idea, I can add only this: take care on geometry of elements, there are seen pieces of dark blue element under the light blue one. .....................JJM The feeling that I'm still learning English is correct! From sdl.web at gmail.com Mon Jul 31 07:18:04 2006 From: sdl.web at gmail.com (Leon) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 08:18:04 +0100 Subject: DNA Wallpaper idea In-Reply-To: <44CD951A.7060606@redhat.com> (=?utf-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4=?= Duffy's message of "Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:28:58 -0400") References: <9c3bfa1d0607301338w6ada2628jc19972acce762e6b@mail.gmail.com> <44CD951A.7060606@redhat.com> Message-ID: M?ir?n Duffy writes: > Hey Seawolf, > > seawolf wrote: >> I've started work on a wallpaper and just wondered if you like the way >> it's going. I'll obviously play around with effects and the actual >> background but it's the idea behind it. >> >> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/36868847/ >> >> If anyone feels they can improve it then feel free. > > http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37183342/ > > :) I started playing around with the idea some more! > > ~m > This is excellent! -- Leon From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Jul 31 07:22:54 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:22:54 +0300 Subject: Yet Another Graffiti Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <44CAF2A7.6000507@redhat.com> References: <44CAC0EE.6030208@redhat.com> <1154139784.20328.16.camel@price> <44CACA1F.208@redhat.com> <200607290012.39893.nman64@n-man.com> <44CAF2A7.6000507@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44CDAFCE.8080509@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Don't we already have enough sterile, 'enterprise-ready' artwork out > there? Perhaps Linux can grow from a painfully narrow demographic to a > much wider one with a bit more variety in the artwork? Maybe we could > try to push the edge by having a different theme/style each release? > > Just some food for thought. I'm not pushing for these to be default, but > at the same time, I *am* pretty sick of the same-old, same-old 'sterile' > graphic styles. +1: be bold, be innovative, make it fun, make people care. Do you remember when Ubuntu started pushing wallpapers with naked people? That was highly controversial, but it was a bold movement which generated a lot of talk and made people care about Ubuntu. So, be bold and do not hesitate to try new things. > For our last release, we had a bubble theme, which you could say is not > 'professional,' but was most definitely 'fun' and generated a lot of > excitement around the release. I kind of thought the point of Fedora was > to build a community operating system, not to cater to professional > types. There are plenty of other distros for that. I did not like very much the "Bubble" theme but have created some works based on it, I am neither very fond of this "Graffiti" theme (at least now is blue, which is much better than the initial olive) but if it is used in the release probably I will try to do something based on it. For the next release after FC6 we should pick another theme and have fun with it. I agree with you, by definition Fedora is not "enterprise" so we do not have to stay stuck with the enterprise rigidity. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Jul 31 09:12:57 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:42:57 +0530 Subject: Yet Another Graffiti Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <44CAF2A7.6000507@redhat.com> References: <44CAC0EE.6030208@redhat.com> <1154139784.20328.16.camel@price> <44CACA1F.208@redhat.com> <200607290012.39893.nman64@n-man.com> <44CAF2A7.6000507@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44CDC999.5000402@fedoraproject.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Patrick W. Barnes wrote: >> There's still a popular perception that graffiti is associated with >> pop culture and is unprofessional. > > I've always seen RHEL as being 'professional' or 'enterprise-y' while > Fedora as more 'bleeding edge' and 'fun.' > Precisely. >> It could be risky to use graffiti as part of the default theme in >> Fedora. > > What is the risk? > > Don't we already have enough sterile, 'enterprise-ready' artwork out > there? Perhaps Linux can grow from a painfully narrow demographic to a > much wider one with a bit more variety in the artwork? Maybe we could > try to push the edge by having a different theme/style each release? > > Just some food for thought. I'm not pushing for these to be default, but > at the same time, I *am* pretty sick of the same-old, same-old 'sterile' > graphic styles. > > For our last release, we had a bubble theme, which you could say is not > 'professional,' but was most definitely 'fun' and generated a lot of > excitement around the release. I kind of thought the point of Fedora was > to build a community operating system, not to cater to professional > types. There are plenty of other distros for that. > Agreed with that though I dont particularly like the last iteration of the style which appears to be too dark to me. We should push one of the backgrounds and gdm theme out into a test release and look at the feedback. If you move quickly, we might even have it in the test2 release. There is always a risk in trying out anything that is noticeable (more precisely completely boring) at all. Rahul From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Jul 31 09:37:36 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:37:36 +0300 Subject: Yet Another Graffiti Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <44CDC999.5000402@fedoraproject.org> References: <44CAC0EE.6030208@redhat.com> <1154139784.20328.16.camel@price> <44CACA1F.208@redhat.com> <200607290012.39893.nman64@n-man.com> <44CAF2A7.6000507@redhat.com> <44CDC999.5000402@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <44CDCF60.8020809@nicubunu.ro> Rahul wrote: > > Agreed with that though I dont particularly like the last iteration of > the style which appears to be too dark to me. We should push one of the > backgrounds and gdm theme out into a test release and look at the > feedback. If you move quickly, we might even have it in the test2 > release. There is always a risk in trying out anything that is > noticeable (more precisely completely boring) at all. I am not sure feedback from a very large audience is very useful in such a case, honestly, a large majority of geeks will consider a wallpaper 'good' only if it contains pictures of half-naked anime girls (and I'm only half-joking now). Seriously, the large majority of users does not know how a good wallpaper should look like (saturation, contrast, size of details, etc. - and I think the last couple of iterations are very good from this perspective). Also, I am not sure about rushing it for test2, from a marketing point of view it may be attractive to include it as late as possible, test3 or even later, when previews of FC6 and reviews of FC6test3 start appearing all over the web and have it as a 'new enhancement' in the minds of the reviewers. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Jul 31 09:41:42 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:11:42 +0530 Subject: Yet Another Graffiti Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <44CDCF60.8020809@nicubunu.ro> References: <44CAC0EE.6030208@redhat.com> <1154139784.20328.16.camel@price> <44CACA1F.208@redhat.com> <200607290012.39893.nman64@n-man.com> <44CAF2A7.6000507@redhat.com> <44CDC999.5000402@fedoraproject.org> <44CDCF60.8020809@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <44CDD056.2030705@fedoraproject.org> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Rahul wrote: >> >> Agreed with that though I dont particularly like the last iteration of >> the style which appears to be too dark to me. We should push one of >> the backgrounds and gdm theme out into a test release and look at the >> feedback. If you move quickly, we might even have it in the test2 >> release. There is always a risk in trying out anything that is >> noticeable (more precisely completely boring) at all. > > I am not sure feedback from a very large audience is very useful in such > a case, honestly, a large majority of geeks will consider a wallpaper > 'good' only if it contains pictures of half-naked anime girls (and I'm > only half-joking now). > Seriously, the large majority of users does not know how a good > wallpaper should look like (saturation, contrast, size of details, etc. > - and I think the last couple of iterations are very good from this > perspective). > > Also, I am not sure about rushing it for test2, from a marketing point > of view it may be attractive to include it as late as possible, test3 or > even later, when previews of FC6 and reviews of FC6test3 start appearing > all over the web and have it as a 'new enhancement' in the minds of the > reviewers. That might be true but since test2 is the feature freeze it would preferably from the robustness point to have more people jump on this release and help us fix any remaining issues. Rahul From jirxjax at centrum.cz Mon Jul 31 10:21:05 2006 From: jirxjax at centrum.cz ( =?iso-8859-2?Q?Ji=F8=ED?= Jakub =?iso-8859-2?Q?=20Ma=B9ek?=) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:21:05 +0200 Subject: the alternative FEDORA logos Message-ID: <200607311221.3595@centrum.cz> Hi, thanks to M?ir?n for tips, so, I posted about 10 variants of the alternative FEDORA logo to DEVIANTART, here are the links: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37190848 http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37190936 http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37190984 http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37191071 http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37191117 http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37191169 http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37191207 http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37191260 http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37191320 http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37191375 .....................JJM From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Jul 31 10:41:46 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 13:41:46 +0300 Subject: the alternative FEDORA logos In-Reply-To: <200607311221.3595@centrum.cz> References: <200607311221.3595@centrum.cz> Message-ID: <44CDDE6A.1050504@nicubunu.ro> Ji?? Jakub Ma?ek wrote: > Hi, thanks to M?ir?n for tips, so, I posted about 10 variants of the alternative FEDORA logo to DEVIANTART, here are the links: If you don't mind, here is a better link: http://jirxjax.deviantart.com/gallery/ -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From jirxjax at centrum.cz Mon Jul 31 10:57:44 2006 From: jirxjax at centrum.cz ( =?iso-8859-2?Q?Ji=F8=ED?= Jakub =?iso-8859-2?Q?=20Ma=B9ek?=) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:57:44 +0200 Subject: the alternative FEDORA logos In-Reply-To: <44CDDE6A.1050504@nicubunu.ro> References: 200607311221.3595@centrum.cz> <200607311221.3595@centrum.cz> <44CDDE6A.1050504@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <200607311257.24262@centrum.cz> Hi Nicu, thank for your tip, this is really better link, I didn't know about this alternative, just starting on DEVIANTART. I hope that all the people will use this link ...................JJM The feeling that I'm still learning English is correct! ______________________________________________________________ > Od: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro > Komu: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers." > Datum: 31.07.2006 12:41 > P?edm?t: Re: the alternative FEDORA logos > >?Ji?? Jakub Ma?ek wrote: >> Hi, thanks to M?ir?n for tips, so, I posted about 10 variants of the alternative FEDORA logo to DEVIANTART, here are the links: > >If you don't mind, here is a better link: >http://jirxjax.deviantart.com/gallery/ > >-- >nicu >Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ >Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org >my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > >_______________________________________________ >Fedora-art-list mailing list >Fedora-art-list at redhat.com >http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, ~m From duffy at redhat.com Mon Jul 31 16:47:31 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:47:31 -0400 Subject: Yet Another Graffiti Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <44CDD056.2030705@fedoraproject.org> References: <44CAC0EE.6030208@redhat.com> <1154139784.20328.16.camel@price> <44CACA1F.208@redhat.com> <200607290012.39893.nman64@n-man.com> <44CAF2A7.6000507@redhat.com> <44CDC999.5000402@fedoraproject.org> <44CDCF60.8020809@nicubunu.ro> <44CDD056.2030705@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <44CE3423.5010005@redhat.com> > Nicu Buculei wrote: >> Also, I am not sure about rushing it for test2, from a marketing point >> of view it may be attractive to include it as late as possible, test3 >> or even later, when previews of FC6 and reviews of FC6test3 start >> appearing all over the web and have it as a 'new enhancement' in the >> minds of the reviewers. > Rahul wrote: > That might be true but since test2 is the feature freeze it would > preferably from the robustness point to have more people jump on this > release and help us fix any remaining issues. Test 2 is already frozen so we'll have to try for test 3. :( ~m