New logo guidelines and web design elements posted

Patrick W. Barnes nman64 at
Fri May 26 20:06:07 UTC 2006

On Thursday 25 May 2006 10:50, "Alex Maier" <lxmaier at> wrote:
> The new logo guidelines are out!
> Please be sure not to violate any of the guidelines.
> When you are designing wiki pages, please reference these common
> design elements instead fo uploading them each time, wasting disk
> space. Here is a page for that:

I have to be honest, I'm not impressed with the new header pieces.  They don't 
fit in with the wiki's theme, they are completely irrelevant, and they waste 
a lot of space.  On lower resolutions, a visitor might have to scroll most of 
a page to get to any useful content.

We need artwork that is consistent, lightweight, and can be worked into the 
current themes.  If we really want context-sensitive artwork, we should try 
to work out a way to include that artwork as part of the wiki header, where 
it could fill some of the already-wasted space instead of wasting even more.  
Another consideration is in our ability to produce matching pieces, such as 
when a new project is formed.  Having to ask a particular person to create a 
new piece using his proprietary software is only going to cause problems in 
the future.

I'm not saying that these pieces don't look nice, they just don't fit.  
Talking with other members of the Fedora Artwork team, I've found that I'm 
not alone in these opinions.  I think that this artwork needs more review 
before it is implemented throughout the wiki.  Also, before we go into too 
much effort for this, is there a reason we need artistic headers that are 
unique for each project?  While some of the project pages lack style, many 
feature fancy tables and a banner formed from the new logo, and I think those 
work nicely.

Matt did a great job on the new logo, and these new pieces look nice, but we 
should involve the community in reviewing this new artwork and should give 
the Artwork team a chance to do better before we start widely publishing this 
artwork with only a handful of reviews.  It is haphazard to immediately 
publish such pieces without giving the Artwork and Website teams a chance to 
provide feedback.

Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes
nman64 at


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