[FC7 theme proposal] Flying High with Fedora 7 - Round 1

Jiri Jakub Masek jjmasek at gmail.com
Fri Nov 24 15:07:30 UTC 2006

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2006/11/23, Máirín Duffy <duffy at redhat.com>:
> Diana Fong wrote:
> > John Baer wrote:
> >> The Flying High with Fedora was just an idea which I thought could
> >> represent the level of achievement Fedora has obtained. It is hard to
> >> argue the hot air balloon theme may have been used before but I thought
> >> it offered an opportunity try new new colors, new shapes. Maybe more
> 3d?
> > Hot air balloons have been used somewhere, sometime, by somebody.  The
> > same could be said for many ideas...even the desktop.
> You are missing the point entirely.
> I as well as other people have seen that very same balloon image (the
> blue one) before - I had seen it as a GDM theme on art.gnome.org.
> Obviously it's OK to take a base concept and run with it (studio 3D
> animated movies seem to do this rather ridiculously - right now it's all
> about penguins, we have Happy Feet and that penguin surfing one coming
> out. A while ago there was 'A Bug's Life' and 'Ants'.) But what is the
> point if you can't do something new and interesting with it (slapping a
> Fedora logo on a balloon != new and interesting IMHO)? We don't want to
> appear like we're a follower in the way these 3-D animation studios seem
> to follow each other. We want to be a leader. That's all my point was.
> John's intention wrt using the images was not clear until he explained
> before in his last message that the artwork he used was meant to be
> placeholder art. I made it quite explicit in the theme submission
> guidelines that you may use artwork that someone else did *as long as
> you got their permission*. As he did not follow that guideline and
> instead chose to use placeholder art without making it clear he meant it
> to be placeholder art, his intentions were not clear until now.
> It's okay to take existing ides, but you really want to build and
> improve on them rather than rehash the same old, which is why I pointed
> out innovation. What can we do with the 'flying balloon' concept that
> really pushes it and makes people think about / see it in a different
> way? What kinds of things do we want to show - 'Fedora is rising above
> the rest', 'Fedora is floating up to the heavens', 'Fedora is a fun
> ride' (kind of what the example with the penguin shows) - these are all
> concepts with very different connotations and it's still not clear to me
> what we're trying to represent here. If you want to play on the colors
> in the colorful balloon, then it takes on a whole other spin - something
> that's more about many colors than flying.
> >> As to the pictures in flying high, they were saved from the web to
> >> simply present the concept. My thought is original sketches would be
> >> better candidates for the final.
> >
> > I, myself, was curious about the photos because the vibrant colors and
> > shapes inspired a couple visual directions I would like to explore.  It
> > would, therefore, have be convenient if there was free collection I
> > could experiment with.
> There are plenty of cheap stock art photo collections out there if you
> would like to experiment with this and submit some revisions. They would
> be welcome. But as the submission guidelines say for round 1 even pencil
> sketches, which would not necessitate photos, are fine.
> > There could be several different approaches to
> > the theme...some might fail and some might succeed far beyond what was
> > originally suggested...and _that's_ what I am excited to see in Round
> > two.  Original sketches could very well be the better choice.
> Why wait until round 2.... why not *do* something? The concept and
> figuring out what we want to do with it ('the approach') is supposed to
> be the point of round 1. Round 2 should be more focused on the rendering.
> >> I also agree Fedora should equal innovation and innovation is a great
> >> concept for a theme but I am unsure how to present it.
> >
> > I think you've done a great job with your emails to the fedora-art-list,
> > in addition the postings on your proposal page.  It shows us the idea
> > you have in mind, some variations of possible exploration within the
> > theme, and good starting points to inspire others in contributing to
> > this theme...not to mention the many ways it could potentially evolve.
> Thanks John for submitting a proposal and getting us talking through
> these ideas. Hopefully others will step up and contribute to it further.
> ~m
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