From jjmasek at gmail.com Fri Sep 1 05:53:21 2006 From: jjmasek at gmail.com (Jiri Jakub Masek) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 07:53:21 +0200 Subject: GRUB - thinking about Message-ID: Hi people, this is what I want to be discussed (and may be that it isn't important): The first what I see when I start my computer is GRUB screen. It looks choppy and the reason isn't artistic but the image which size is 640x480pix resized to my monitor current resolution (1280x1024pix). I don't understand all the settings of Fedora Linux, so, I don't know if it could be set. I think that more and more people are only users like me now. So, I'm going to ask: is possibly to change the starting process to put noresized image in right bottom segment of screen as is? O.K., it'll be needed to change the specifications too, the background colors of screen and image to set to be the same. JJM -- I'm still learning English... Ji?? 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Without the real size, is hard to say how/if faces are readable at that size. I do not think those icons fit Echo: the light comes from down-left instead of up-right, the shade of blue is not the right one, the outline is solid instead of gradient. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Sep 1 06:13:20 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 09:13:20 +0300 Subject: Help with New Default Theme for FC 6 and the plan for FC7+ In-Reply-To: <44F75BFE.7090407@redhat.com> References: <44F72C87.5010405@redhat.com> <44F750F6.9060901@fedoraproject.org> <44F75BFE.7090407@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44F7CF80.3060700@nicubunu.ro> Diana Fong wrote: > After FC6, we should work to better structure the information available > and the joining/submission process. Our newcomers could be even be our > guide in this endeavor. While various themes can still be submitted, I > was thinking at the beginning of each distribution, we could come up > with a subject to which submissions would be based on. The focus can > then be changed for 8, 9, and so on...but this will keep a basic idea > but still be new, interesting, and challenging for the artists. We can use the time form the release to test1 as a free-for-all period, where anyone can come with the craziest ideas as unfinished sketches and wxperiment with anything. After test1 we settle on one metaphor, polish its look and develop all the needed artwork. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From stickster at gmail.com Fri Sep 1 12:59:17 2006 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 08:59:17 -0400 Subject: Screensaver lock dialog Message-ID: <1157115557.3150.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> I'm not much of an artist, but I'm not too shabby at simple thievery, so I stole some of M?ir?n's work -- in particular the neat DNA background -- to make a dialog to use with the GNOME screensaver: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields/Drafts I was afraid to do too much "ribbon-cutting" on the DNA strand because of... well, lack of skill. I removed a few of the floating f and ? "nucleotides" to avoid crowding the Cancel and Unlock buttons in the dialog. Hopefully the line isn't overkill. The way I tested this was simple and hacky -- I have my "Fedora Bubbles" screensaver selected as my desktop option, and I backed up the original /usr/share/gnome-screensaver/themes/fedoralogo-floaters-lock-dialog-bg.png file and just copied a freshly-export PNG into its place. The original PNG is 400x314 pixels, so that's how I set up the SVG and the PNG I exported. -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project Board: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board Fedora Docs Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From stickster at gmail.com Fri Sep 1 13:02:17 2006 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 09:02:17 -0400 Subject: GRUB - thinking about In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1157115737.3150.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 07:53 +0200, Jiri Jakub Masek wrote: > Hi people, this is what I want to be discussed (and may be that it > isn't important): > > The first what I see when I start my computer is GRUB screen. It looks > choppy and the reason isn't artistic but the image which size is > 640x480pix resized to my monitor current resolution (1280x1024pix). I > don't understand all the settings of Fedora Linux, so, I don't know if > it could be set. I think that more and more people are only users like > me now. > > So, I'm going to ask: is possibly to change the starting process to > put noresized image in right bottom segment of screen as is? O.K., > it'll be needed to change the specifications too, the background > colors of screen and image to set to be the same. Hi Jiri, If I'm not mistaken, the GRUB screen is *extremely* limited at the graphics it can display, because there's no really good video driver running before your operating system boots. Therefore the default graphic has to be very limited in resolution and color palette. Even if your monitor is 1280x1024 (or higher), the computer usually can't display anything above 640x480 or so at that point in the boot process, so most monitors scale the image up to fill the screen, resulting in the ugliness you're seeing. -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project Board: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board Fedora Docs Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jjmasek at gmail.com Fri Sep 1 14:48:50 2006 From: jjmasek at gmail.com (Jiri Jakub Masek) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 16:48:50 +0200 Subject: GRUB - thinking about In-Reply-To: <1157115737.3150.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1157115737.3150.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Hi Paul, thank you. So, if I understand it, there are two ways to make anything better. The first is no GRUB background image, the second is to design that image without gradients, with graphics objects with border lines in angles 0, 45, 90, 135 degrees for monitor with resolution ratio 4:3, universally only 0 and 90 degrees. It could be an appeal for graphics designers to try anything. JJM 2006/9/1, Paul W. Frields : > > On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 07:53 +0200, Jiri Jakub Masek wrote: > > Hi people, this is what I want to be discussed (and may be that it > > isn't important): > > > > The first what I see when I start my computer is GRUB screen. It looks > > choppy and the reason isn't artistic but the image which size is > > 640x480pix resized to my monitor current resolution (1280x1024pix). I > > don't understand all the settings of Fedora Linux, so, I don't know if > > it could be set. I think that more and more people are only users like > > me now. > > > > So, I'm going to ask: is possibly to change the starting process to > > put noresized image in right bottom segment of screen as is? O.K., > > it'll be needed to change the specifications too, the background > > colors of screen and image to set to be the same. > > Hi Jiri, > > If I'm not mistaken, the GRUB screen is *extremely* limited at the > graphics it can display, because there's no really good video driver > running before your operating system boots. Therefore the default > graphic has to be very limited in resolution and color palette. Even if > your monitor is 1280x1024 (or higher), the computer usually can't > display anything above 640x480 or so at that point in the boot process, > so most monitors scale the image up to fill the screen, resulting in the > ugliness you're seeing. > > -- > Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > Fedora Project Board: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board > Fedora Docs Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > -- I'm still learning English... Ji?? Jakub Ma?ek - Jiri Jakub Masek Czech Republic, European Union -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iamseawolf at gmail.com Fri Sep 1 14:56:37 2006 From: iamseawolf at gmail.com (seawolf) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 15:56:37 +0100 Subject: User Presence Icons In-Reply-To: <44F7CBC8.1010904@nicubunu.ro> References: <9c3bfa1d0608311350s2afe20d8xda6958f77cc54aa@mail.gmail.com> <44F7CBC8.1010904@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0609010756k5c416a93sbc104d2de2a189e8@mail.gmail.com> Updated: - the .tar.gz has 48, 24 and 16's. - colours adjusted, used the other icons to nab gradients etc. Think it fits more now. - light comes from top right. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/39020573/ From iamseawolf at gmail.com Fri Sep 1 15:58:42 2006 From: iamseawolf at gmail.com (seawolf) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 16:58:42 +0100 Subject: Gnome splash Image In-Reply-To: <9c3bfa1d0608200339n239975bfp8fbbe653a8fb8ec6@mail.gmail.com> References: <1155500688.9221.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <44E08D79.4090102@nicubunu.ro> <9c3bfa1d0608181416j35b4353cj24d2bf9f7566e109@mail.gmail.com> <543D0BA6-3A01-4911-BA15-588A0DDFB9DC@redhat.com> <9c3bfa1d0608200339n239975bfp8fbbe653a8fb8ec6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0609010858v6325bec0s2dc5b723566b68d2@mail.gmail.com> On 20/08/06, seawolf wrote: > I'll get on with the GNOME one after a little feedback in terms of > design and I work out the sizes etc. My GNOME version is on, you guessed it, my dA page: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/39066100/ with a little help from Paul's goodun. You may need to have a full view of it as the preview PNG sometimes doesn't correctly show transparency. Generic flame war welcome. ./Ben -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From stb52988 at gmail.com Fri Sep 1 16:15:13 2006 From: stb52988 at gmail.com (Steve Barnhart) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 12:15:13 -0400 Subject: Gnome splash Image In-Reply-To: <9c3bfa1d0609010858v6325bec0s2dc5b723566b68d2@mail.gmail.com> References: <1155500688.9221.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <44E08D79.4090102@nicubunu.ro> <9c3bfa1d0608181416j35b4353cj24d2bf9f7566e109@mail.gmail.com> <543D0BA6-3A01-4911-BA15-588A0DDFB9DC@redhat.com> <9c3bfa1d0608200339n239975bfp8fbbe653a8fb8ec6@mail.gmail.com> <9c3bfa1d0609010858v6325bec0s2dc5b723566b68d2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <15ce3ec0609010915i5c3ff310i5c7da08924f39878@mail.gmail.com> I *really* like that, and way to do with the extra "outside the box" transparency. I think things like that look nice ha. Excellent work On 9/1/06, seawolf wrote: > On 20/08/06, seawolf wrote: > > I'll get on with the GNOME one after a little feedback in terms of > > design and I work out the sizes etc. > > My GNOME version is on, you guessed it, my dA page: > http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/39066100/ > with a little help from Paul's goodun. > > You may need to have a full view of it as the preview PNG sometimes > doesn't correctly show transparency. > > Generic flame war welcome. > > ./Ben > -- > ..// seawolf //.. > Ben Arnold > e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo > iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com > http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary > > fedora core : artwork > GnuPG Available - ask me! > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Steve From baerjj at gmail.com Fri Sep 1 19:45:04 2006 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:45:04 -0400 Subject: Help with FC6 Theme In-Reply-To: <20060831220755.B72E8734EF@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060831220755.B72E8734EF@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1157139904.3137.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mairin, This is exciting news but I have a few comments and questions being the new guy on the block. First, who ever produced the current theme did a really good job. IMO it is one of the best available. I see a lot of thought and effort went into creating and crafting it. However, a lot will be said when FC6 is released on it's looks and I believe folks will desire something new or improved. > We can have a new theme in FC6, but we've got to get it in by next > Tuesday (September 5) which is the test 3 freeze. After it gets in of > course we can fix bugs and whatnot but it should really be the best > it > can possibly be for test 3. I am assuming the decision that really must be made by 09/05 is to change themes or keep the current. I also assume that improvements will be accepted to the selected theme until 10/02. If 09/05 is the final date, is five days enough time to measurably improve the status quo? If 10/02 is the final date, then I see two choices. 1. Improve the current theme. or 2. Implement the DNA theme. A choice to improving the current theme could be making it more glassy. Mark Shuttleworth has stated on numerous occasions he wants Ubuntu to be more polished. If you look behind the curtain I believe you will see the word "polished" has been translated into "glassy". https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/EdgyProposals/JMak?highlight=% 28art%29 I am not suggesting Fedora has to be like Ubuntu but the themeing direction of other distro's shouldn't be ignored. The media will evaluate a distro on how it performs and how it looks. I believe the amount of effort of either decision would be about the same. It looks like the task list is as follows. > - GDM theme - we already have this but can stand to have some > graphical > modifications. It needs to keep same layout though so we don't have > to > modify the GDM theme markup too heavily. > - GNOME/KDE splash Gnome splash KDE splash XFCE splash {?} > - GRUB splash 16 color, 640 x 480 {?} > - syslinux splash ("Anaconda Prompt Screen" on the themeing overview) Does syslinux splash = Anaconda Prompt Screen {?} > - anaconda artwork What is the complete list {?} > - firstboot artwork 16 color, 640 x 480 {?} > - RHGB splash What is the current? > - screensaver lock Doesn't this come from GUI {?} > - (optional) GTK theme Clear looks {?} / compiz {?} > - (optional) icon theme Status quo {?} What about the default wall paper/background? To conclude, I am happy to assist in anyway possible. John From dfong at redhat.com Fri Sep 1 20:31:49 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:31:49 -0400 Subject: Help with FC6 Theme In-Reply-To: <1157139904.3137.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060831220755.B72E8734EF@hormel.redhat.com> <1157139904.3137.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <44F898B5.40004@redhat.com> John Baer wrote: > I am assuming the decision that really must be made by 09/05 is to > change themes or keep the current. I also assume that improvements will > be accepted to the selected theme until 10/02. If 09/05 is the final > date, is five days enough time to measurably improve the status quo? > Decision and graphics for the theme change should be done by Sept 05 in order to be included. If there are some minor changes to the graphics, that could be replaced within the few weeks that follow. Enough time to create a measurable improvement? Not sure. I've been experimenting with the DNA theme and it seems inconclusive at this point. If you have any ideas/suggestions please post. > It looks like the task list is as follows. > I'd like to first point you all to this page. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemingOverview It may help clear up some questions. It has the pieces, specs, and technical details involved. Here's also a link to the pieces of graphics I created for FC5...perhaps you might find it to be useful/informative, http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc5graphics/ >> - GRUB splash >> > > 16 color, 640 x 480 {?} > the GRUB is 640x480 and 256 colors > >> - syslinux splash ("Anaconda Prompt Screen" on the themeing overview) >> > > Does syslinux splash = Anaconda Prompt Screen {?} > yes...and this one is 640x300 16 colors. which should include one black, one white and one red... > >> - anaconda artwork >> > > What is the complete list {?} > > Aanaconda artwork includes - prompt screen 640x300 16 colors...see note above ^ - anaconda header...in the Installation Wizard page and throughout the installation ... the header up top 800x89 - the splash 503x420 >> - firstboot artwork >> > > 16 color, 640 x 480 {?} > > First boot is this screen http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemingOverview?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=FirstBoot.png It needs the image on the left hand side...which is 160x600 >> - RHGB splash >> > > What is the current? > The current is graphic mode: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemingOverview?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=rhgb1.png text mode: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemingOverview?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=rhgb2.png > >> - screensaver lock >> > > Doesn't this come from GUI {?} > This will not be needed in this release. There were some technical difficulties and so it will be a generic lock dialog. > >> - (optional) GTK theme >> > > Clear looks {?} / compiz {?} > > I believe it is Clearlooks and will not be changed for FC6. >> - (optional) icon theme >> > > Status quo {?} > > What about the default wall paper/background? > Default wallpaper much match the rest of the graphics listed above. sizes that we would like to have...to address the various size monitors are: 2048 x 1536 Default 1280 x 1024 Default-5_4 1680 x 1050 Default-wide 2560 x 960 Default-dual-wide 2560 x 1240 Default-dual > To conclude, I am happy to assist in anyway possible. Please do...if you have any ideas for modification of the DNA theme...please post. Diana From stickster at gmail.com Sat Sep 2 01:27:53 2006 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:27:53 -0400 Subject: Help with FC6 Theme In-Reply-To: <44F898B5.40004@redhat.com> References: <20060831220755.B72E8734EF@hormel.redhat.com> <1157139904.3137.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> <44F898B5.40004@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1157160473.18982.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 16:31 -0400, Diana Fong wrote: > >> - screensaver lock > > > > Doesn't this come from GUI {?} > > This will not be needed in this release. There were some technical > difficulties and so it will be a generic lock dialog. /me is sad. -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project Board: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board Fedora Docs Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mini HowTo: >>> su gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst change "splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz" to "## splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz" , reboot >>> Cheers, John On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 10:49 -0400, fedora-art-list-request at redhat.com wrote: > Hi people, this is what I want to be discussed (and may be that it > isn't > important): > > The first what I see when I start my computer is GRUB screen. It looks > choppy and the reason isn't artistic but the image which size is > 640x480pix > resized to my monitor current resolution (1280x1024pix). I don't > understand > all the settings of Fedora Linux, so, I don't know if it could be set. > I > think that more and more people are only users like me now. > > So, I'm going to ask: is possibly to change the starting process to > put > noresized image in right bottom segment of screen as is? O.K., it'll > be > needed to change the specifications too, the background colors of > screen and > image to set to be the same. > > JJM From dfong at redhat.com Sat Sep 2 17:08:43 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 13:08:43 -0400 Subject: Help with FC6 Theme In-Reply-To: <1157160473.18982.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060831220755.B72E8734EF@hormel.redhat.com> <1157139904.3137.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> <44F898B5.40004@redhat.com> <1157160473.18982.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <44F9BA9B.9000903@redhat.com> Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 16:31 -0400, Diana Fong wrote: > >>>> - screensaver lock >>>> >>> Doesn't this come from GUI {?} >>> >> This will not be needed in this release. There were some technical >> difficulties and so it will be a generic lock dialog. >> > > /me is sad. > > Sorry Paul. It is a bit disappointing. As I understood it...the problem was that the "designed" lock dialog would only appear with one screensaver and not when any other screensaver was chosen. While the lock dialog looked very good when it worked, it was then not so nice when the default appeared. This was viewed as an inconsistency...thus a bug...and the reason in choosing not to request graphic for this particular piece till the problem was fixed. Diana From jjmasek at gmail.com Sat Sep 2 17:26:32 2006 From: jjmasek at gmail.com (Jiri Jakub Masek) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 19:26:32 +0200 Subject: More on GRUB Image In-Reply-To: <1157201527.2600.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060901144901.3110673221@hormel.redhat.com> <1157201527.2600.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Hi, thanks, I tried to do a GRUB background image as I wrote before, I'm satisfied with it installed on my computer, but it's only quick work to test it. It looks like a possible way to design it. I posted it to my website http://juiceoff.8m.com to give you chance to test it too. JJM 2006/9/2, John Baer : > > Jiri, > > All of the comments on the GRUB image quality are correct and every > distro is challenged by this. If you wanted to see how things would look > without the GRUB image, edit your menu.lst file and comment the splash > image line. > > Mini HowTo: > > >>> > > su > gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst > > change "splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz" > to "## splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz" > > , reboot > > >>> > > Cheers, > > John > > On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 10:49 -0400, fedora-art-list-request at redhat.com > wrote: > > Hi people, this is what I want to be discussed (and may be that it > > isn't > > important): > > > > The first what I see when I start my computer is GRUB screen. It looks > > choppy and the reason isn't artistic but the image which size is > > 640x480pix > > resized to my monitor current resolution (1280x1024pix). I don't > > understand > > all the settings of Fedora Linux, so, I don't know if it could be set. > > I > > think that more and more people are only users like me now. > > > > So, I'm going to ask: is possibly to change the starting process to > > put > > noresized image in right bottom segment of screen as is? O.K., it'll > > be > > needed to change the specifications too, the background colors of > > screen and > > image to set to be the same. > > > > JJM > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- I'm still learning English... Ji?? Jakub Ma?ek - Jiri Jakub Masek Czech Republic, European Union -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stb52988 at gmail.com Sat Sep 2 17:33:34 2006 From: stb52988 at gmail.com (Steve Barnhart) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 13:33:34 -0400 Subject: More on GRUB Image In-Reply-To: References: <20060901144901.3110673221@hormel.redhat.com> <1157201527.2600.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <15ce3ec0609021033w5ba9ad5bodccb7c6dedaeb03c@mail.gmail.com> So there haven't really been any modifications to GRUB to allow higher-resolution backgrounds? Are their any future alternatives? On 9/2/06, Jiri Jakub Masek wrote: > Hi, thanks, I tried to do a GRUB background image as I wrote before, I'm > satisfied with it installed on my computer, but it's only quick work to > test it. It looks like a possible way to design it. > > I posted it to my website http://juiceoff.8m.com to give you chance to test > it too. > > JJM > > 2006/9/2, John Baer : > > Jiri, > > > > All of the comments on the GRUB image quality are correct and every > > distro is challenged by this. If you wanted to see how things would look > > without the GRUB image, edit your menu.lst file and comment the splash > > image line. > > > > Mini HowTo: > > > > >>> > > > > su > > gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst > > > > change "splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz" > > to "## splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz" > > > > , reboot > > > > >>> > > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > > > On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 10:49 -0400, > fedora-art-list-request at redhat.com > > wrote: > > > Hi people, this is what I want to be discussed (and may be that it > > > isn't > > > important): > > > > > > The first what I see when I start my computer is GRUB screen. It looks > > > choppy and the reason isn't artistic but the image which size is > > > 640x480pix > > > resized to my monitor current resolution (1280x1024pix). I don't > > > understand > > > all the settings of Fedora Linux, so, I don't know if it could be set. > > > I > > > think that more and more people are only users like me now. > > > > > > So, I'm going to ask: is possibly to change the starting process to > > > put > > > noresized image in right bottom segment of screen as is? O.K., it'll > > > be > > > needed to change the specifications too, the background colors of > > > screen and > > > image to set to be the same. > > > > > > JJM > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > > -- > I'm still learning English... > Ji?? Jakub Ma?ek - Jiri Jakub Masek > Czech Republic, European Union > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -- Steve From baerjj at gmail.com Sun Sep 3 14:04:58 2006 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 10:04:58 -0400 Subject: Core 6 DNA POC Message-ID: <1157292298.4594.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> All, In more of a brain storming contribution than anything else I created a wall paper attempting to capture the spirit of the suggested core 6 DNA theme. I placed it on my home wiki page to keep it out of the loop until presented here. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JohnBaer?action=show If the team feels this is something to be furthered developed, then I will send the svg. Cheers, John From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Sep 4 06:10:31 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:10:31 +0300 Subject: GRUB - thinking about In-Reply-To: References: <1157115737.3150.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <44FBC357.6050804@nicubunu.ro> Jiri Jakub Masek wrote: > Hi Paul, thank you. > > So, if I understand it, there are two ways to make anything better. The > first is no GRUB background image, the second is to design that image > without gradients, with graphics objects with border lines in angles 0, > 45, 90, 135 degrees for monitor with resolution ratio 4:3, universally > only 0 and 90 degrees. It could be an appeal for graphics designers to > try anything. I think no background for GRUB is not a real option and gradients can be used, only take great care in using dithering. Personally, I am quite happy with the GRUB background I am using right now on my 19" CRT, and it is made using 16 colors, in 256 would be much better: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/temp/splash.xpm.gz -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Sep 4 06:15:22 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:15:22 +0300 Subject: More on GRUB Image In-Reply-To: <15ce3ec0609021033w5ba9ad5bodccb7c6dedaeb03c@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060901144901.3110673221@hormel.redhat.com> <1157201527.2600.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> <15ce3ec0609021033w5ba9ad5bodccb7c6dedaeb03c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44FBC47A.6050301@nicubunu.ro> Steve Barnhart wrote: > So there haven't really been any modifications to GRUB to allow > higher-resolution backgrounds? Are their any future alternatives? GRUB is a boot loader, one of its goals is to be as small as possible, for high-resolution it would need graphic drivers for various cards, would need to probe the monitor for the supported video modes and so on. Add sound and mouse control to that and the boot loader would become a multimedia operating system on its own. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Sep 4 06:19:13 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:19:13 +0300 Subject: Help with FC6 Theme In-Reply-To: <44F898B5.40004@redhat.com> References: <20060831220755.B72E8734EF@hormel.redhat.com> <1157139904.3137.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> <44F898B5.40004@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44FBC561.9020501@nicubunu.ro> Diana Fong wrote: > John Baer wrote: > > I'd like to first point you all to this page. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemingOverview > It may help clear up some questions. It has the pieces, specs, and > technical details involved. > Here's also a link to the pieces of graphics I created for FC5...perhaps > you might find it to be useful/informative, > http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc5graphics/ > >>> - GRUB splash >>> >> >> 16 color, 640 x 480 {?} >> > the GRUB is 640x480 and 256 colors I admit of being lazy and not testing myself (it would require a reboot of my computer :p ), the theming overview page list 256 colors for GRUB and cites a source (http://www.tldp.org/LDP/LG/current/jayanth.html) which source states 14 colors. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Sep 4 06:53:40 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:53:40 +0300 Subject: Help with FC6 Theme In-Reply-To: <44FBC561.9020501@nicubunu.ro> References: <20060831220755.B72E8734EF@hormel.redhat.com> <1157139904.3137.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> <44F898B5.40004@redhat.com> <44FBC561.9020501@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <44FBCD74.6050101@nicubunu.ro> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Diana Fong wrote: >>> >> the GRUB is 640x480 and 256 colors > > I admit of being lazy and not testing myself (it would require a reboot > of my computer :p ), the theming overview page list 256 colors for GRUB > and cites a source (http://www.tldp.org/LDP/LG/current/jayanth.html) > which source states 14 colors. Just tested an 256 colors XPM (made it indexed with GIMP, 256 colors, no dithering) for GRUB splash: it half worked - the image is there, the shape is correct but it uses a wrong color palette, does anyone know what should I do to have the right colors? -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From baerjj at gmail.com Mon Sep 4 12:59:30 2006 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 08:59:30 -0400 Subject: GRUB In-Reply-To: <20060903160004.9281173178@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060903160004.9281173178@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1157374770.3176.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Steve, It is my understanding that until udev is loaded things are pretty simple. To Fedora's credit this happens quickly. > So there haven't really been any modifications to GRUB to allow > higher-resolution backgrounds? Are their any future alternatives? John From mola at c100c.com Mon Sep 4 13:26:02 2006 From: mola at c100c.com (Mola pahnadayan) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:56:02 +0330 Subject: Fedora 6 , Background Message-ID: <1157376362.30751.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi all Extra background http://www.fedoraforum.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=2462 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dfong at redhat.com Mon Sep 4 14:21:23 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:21:23 -0400 Subject: Core 6 DNA POC In-Reply-To: <1157292298.4594.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1157292298.4594.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <44FC3663.5010407@redhat.com> John... Interesting approach with the circles. It's subtle, has a polished look, and the circles forming the spirals even has a sense of motion. One thing I really liked about Mairin's DNA version is that it broke apart and the "f" and "8" flew off...Do you think your design could incorporate that or would it become too busy? I really like the "tab" on which the fedora core sits. I'm wondering if that piece could be built upon to become the log-in field. Great exploration. Diana John Baer wrote: > All, > > In more of a brain storming contribution than anything else I created a > wall paper attempting to capture the spirit of the suggested core 6 DNA > theme. > > I placed it on my home wiki page to keep it out of the loop until > presented here. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JohnBaer?action=show > > If the team feels this is something to be furthered developed, then I > will send the svg. > > Cheers, > > John > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > From dfong at redhat.com Mon Sep 4 14:28:47 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:28:47 -0400 Subject: Help with FC6 Theme In-Reply-To: <44FBCD74.6050101@nicubunu.ro> References: <20060831220755.B72E8734EF@hormel.redhat.com> <1157139904.3137.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> <44F898B5.40004@redhat.com> <44FBC561.9020501@nicubunu.ro> <44FBCD74.6050101@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <44FC381F.6030406@redhat.com> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: >> Diana Fong wrote: >>>> >>> the GRUB is 640x480 and 256 colors >> >> I admit of being lazy and not testing myself (it would require a >> reboot of my computer :p ), the theming overview page list 256 colors >> for GRUB and cites a source >> (http://www.tldp.org/LDP/LG/current/jayanth.html) which source states >> 14 colors. > > Just tested an 256 colors XPM (made it indexed with GIMP, 256 colors, > no dithering) for GRUB splash: it half worked - the image is there, > the shape is correct but it uses a wrong color palette, does anyone > know what should I do to have the right colors? Hmmm...I'm not really sure now either. For FC5, I was given the spec of 256 colors. But yes, I see the source link and it says 14. Though I'm a bit wary because that has a submission date of Nov. 7, 2003...Perhaps the link was only to provide directions on customizing the GRUB and the actual detail of how many colors has changed? I've tried to ask a couple of people online but the ones that work with the GRUB are not around. It's a long weekend for us working in the US so they might be on vacation...but I'll continue to look and ask when I see someone that knows. Diana From iamseawolf at gmail.com Mon Sep 4 15:43:32 2006 From: iamseawolf at gmail.com (seawolf) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:43:32 +0100 Subject: Core 6 DNA POC In-Reply-To: <44FC3663.5010407@redhat.com> References: <1157292298.4594.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <44FC3663.5010407@redhat.com> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0609040843v5d3b9354mc7cca917f0512b1b@mail.gmail.com> I like this piece, John, the first thing I thought was... wow! It's a great development of the idea, especially how it looks so contemporary. Nice job! On 04/09/06, Diana Fong wrote: > One thing I really liked about Mairin's DNA version is that it broke > apart and the "f" and "8" flew off...Do you think your design could > incorporate that or would it become too busy? Maybe a watermark just to give the larger area of colour a hint of activity. This could use the helix with the middle bits in it rather than just the outside strands. ./Ben -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From dfong at redhat.com Mon Sep 4 19:29:32 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:29:32 -0400 Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <1157376362.30751.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1157376362.30751.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <44FC7E9C.8090403@redhat.com> Mola pahnadayan wrote: > Hi all > Extra background > http://www.fedoraforum.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=2462 Using this background as the starting point Mola and I are testing out a few ideas on #fedora-art (freenode.net). Take a look at where things are headed...http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/MolaBranch/ These are modifications of his 3d rendering http://82.99.245.51/more/dna_002.jpg Diana From spydrrrrr at gmail.com Mon Sep 4 20:48:01 2006 From: spydrrrrr at gmail.com (spydrrrrr at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:48:01 -0400 Subject: requesting fedora artwork.. how long does it take? Message-ID: He all, I sent an email requesting the fedora artwork... I have not recieve anything yet? How long does it take after the request? It's been over 1 week? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From baerjj at gmail.com Tue Sep 5 00:33:03 2006 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 20:33:03 -0400 Subject: 16 Color Grub is Nice In-Reply-To: <20060904160003.F1F5173053@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060904160003.F1F5173053@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1157416383.2699.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Nicu, I tried your grub splash and it is a testimony to what can be done with a 16 color pallet. Nice job. The issue may be more technique than anything else. Let's post some "proof of concepts" and share our ideas. What I have used in the past is inkscape and gimp. Gimp is required, inkscape is optional. Diana and Mairin, should someone create a wiki page titled "ArtworkGrubSplashPOC" to hold our submissions? John On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 12:00 -0400, fedora-art-list-request at redhat.com wrote: > Personally, I am quite happy with the GRUB background I am using > right > now on my 19" CRT, and it is made using 16 colors, in 256 would be > much > better: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/temp/splash.xpm.gz > From onuorah_ifeoma at yahoo.com Tue Sep 5 01:48:33 2006 From: onuorah_ifeoma at yahoo.com (Ifeoma Onuorah) Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <44FC7E9C.8090403@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20060905014833.87146.qmail@web35701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Very cool background! Diana Fong wrote: Mola pahnadayan wrote: > Hi all > Extra background > http://www.fedoraforum.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=2462 Using this background as the starting point Mola and I are testing out a few ideas on #fedora-art (freenode.net). Take a look at where things are headed...http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/MolaBranch/ These are modifications of his 3d rendering http://82.99.245.51/more/dna_002.jpg Diana _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Sep 5 06:59:03 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:59:03 +0300 Subject: 16 Color Grub is Nice In-Reply-To: <1157416383.2699.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060904160003.F1F5173053@hormel.redhat.com> <1157416383.2699.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <44FD2037.2050007@nicubunu.ro> John Baer wrote: > > Let's post some "proof of concepts" and share our ideas. What I have > used in the past is inkscape and gimp. Gimp is required, inkscape is > optional. Do you understand that is late for FC6 and our "proof of concept" ideas should be made for FC7? > Diana and Mairin, should someone create a wiki page titled > "ArtworkGrubSplashPOC" to hold our submissions? The purpose of a Wiki is that anyone can add or modify pages, you can create yourself "ArtworkGrubSplashPOC" -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From sdl.web at gmail.com Tue Sep 5 14:09:35 2006 From: sdl.web at gmail.com (Leon) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:09:35 +0100 Subject: requesting fedora artwork.. how long does it take? References: Message-ID: On Mon, 09/04/2006 21:48 +0100, spydrrrrr-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w wrote: > He all,I sent an email requesting the fedora artwork... I have not > recieve anything yet? How long does it take after the request?It's > been over 1 week?Thanks. Which email did you send to? -- Leon From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Sep 5 14:27:02 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:27:02 +0300 Subject: requesting fedora artwork.. how long does it take? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44FD8936.6050703@nicubunu.ro> Leon wrote: > On Mon, 09/04/2006 21:48 +0100, spydrrrrr-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w wrote: > >> He all,I sent an email requesting the fedora artwork... I have not >> recieve anything yet? How long does it take after the request?It's >> been over 1 week?Thanks. > > Which email did you send to? I would guess the email was sent to the address mentioned here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From duffy at redhat.com Tue Sep 5 14:29:36 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 10:29:36 -0400 Subject: Help with FC6 Theme In-Reply-To: <44FBC561.9020501@nicubunu.ro> References: <20060831220755.B72E8734EF@hormel.redhat.com> <1157139904.3137.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> <44F898B5.40004@redhat.com> <44FBC561.9020501@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <44FD89D0.7010905@redhat.com> Nicu Buculei wrote: > I admit of being lazy and not testing myself (it would require a reboot > of my computer :p ), the theming overview page list 256 colors for GRUB > and cites a source (http://www.tldp.org/LDP/LG/current/jayanth.html) > which source states 14 colors. I changed it to 256 colors last week. It originally said 14 but Diana told me it was really 256. ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Sep 5 14:41:05 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:41:05 +0300 Subject: Help with FC6 Theme In-Reply-To: <44FD89D0.7010905@redhat.com> References: <20060831220755.B72E8734EF@hormel.redhat.com> <1157139904.3137.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> <44F898B5.40004@redhat.com> <44FBC561.9020501@nicubunu.ro> <44FD89D0.7010905@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44FD8C81.6050205@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: >> I admit of being lazy and not testing myself (it would require a >> reboot of my computer :p ), the theming overview page list 256 colors >> for GRUB and cites a source >> (http://www.tldp.org/LDP/LG/current/jayanth.html) which source states >> 14 colors. > > I changed it to 256 colors last week. It originally said 14 but Diana > told me it was really 256. I know you modified it by looking at the editing history so I assumed you know more about the subject than me. In the meantime I tried a 256 colors image and it was displayed using a wrong color palette. It would be useful to have 256 colors, as I can easily see the dithering in this image and probably a 256 colors image will not have the problem: http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/MolaBranch/final/fc6grub-splash.png note: even with visible dithering, I think this is a very good GRUB splash. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From dfong at redhat.com Tue Sep 5 14:49:56 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 10:49:56 -0400 Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <20060905014833.87146.qmail@web35701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060905014833.87146.qmail@web35701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <44FD8E94.3050709@redhat.com> Done...literally in a day with no sleep...though...maybe two because Mola is ahead by 8 hours. Hope you guys like it. http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/ DNA idea from Mairin. A HUGE thank you to Mola for experimenting and help setting the look with his 3D modeling and rendering (Blender). Thank you so much Mola! Also would like to thank John Baer as well for experimenting with a different look and feel. I think in FC7, there will be a lot of interesting approaches from many talented people. =) Diana... Ifeoma Onuorah wrote: > Very cool background! > > */Diana Fong /* wrote: > > Mola pahnadayan wrote: > > Hi all > > Extra background > > http://www.fedoraforum.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=2462 > > Using this background as the starting point Mola and I are testing > out a > few ideas on #fedora-art (freenode.net). Take a look at where things > are headed...http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/MolaBranch/ > These are modifications of his 3d rendering > http://82.99.245.51/more/dna_002.jpg > > Diana > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > From duffy at redhat.com Tue Sep 5 14:58:02 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 10:58:02 -0400 Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <44FD8E94.3050709@redhat.com> References: <20060905014833.87146.qmail@web35701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44FD8E94.3050709@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44FD907A.5080705@redhat.com> Diana Fong wrote: > Done...literally in a day with no sleep...though...maybe two because > Mola is ahead by 8 hours. Hope you guys like it. > http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/ http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/06screen.png This one is going to be an issue wrt translations. I would recommend the following: - left align the pam message ('please enter your username' in this example) - align the toolbar buttons alongo the bottom of the screen. Depending on various settings there may be more or less of these and once they're translated to languages like German they will blow out of the box they're in. This is really different from the current GDM theme though - how is it going to be implemented in time? You might be able to take a plainer GDM theme and just make that image the BG though. ~m From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 5 15:03:25 2006 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 17:03:25 +0200 Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <44FD8E94.3050709@redhat.com> References: <20060905014833.87146.qmail@web35701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44FD8E94.3050709@redhat.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0609050803n34a11f2bl79ea2d31444d0463@mail.gmail.com> On 9/5/06, Diana Fong wrote: > Done...literally in a day with no sleep...though...maybe two because > Mola is ahead by 8 hours. > Hope you guys like it. http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/ > > DNA idea from Mairin. > > A HUGE thank you to Mola for experimenting and help setting the look > with his 3D modeling and rendering (Blender). Thank you so much Mola! > > Also would like to thank John Baer as well for experimenting with a > different look and feel. I think in FC7, there will be a lot of > interesting approaches from many talented people. =) > > Diana... This is indeed a great work. You guys are simply great :) keep it up :) Cheers, Chitlesh Goorah -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From dfong at redhat.com Tue Sep 5 15:22:55 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 11:22:55 -0400 Subject: Help with FC6 Theme In-Reply-To: <44FD8C81.6050205@nicubunu.ro> References: <20060831220755.B72E8734EF@hormel.redhat.com> <1157139904.3137.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> <44F898B5.40004@redhat.com> <44FBC561.9020501@nicubunu.ro> <44FD89D0.7010905@redhat.com> <44FD8C81.6050205@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <44FD964F.2090803@redhat.com> Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Nicu Buculei wrote: >>> I admit of being lazy and not testing myself (it would require a >>> reboot of my computer :p ), the theming overview page list 256 >>> colors for GRUB and cites a source >>> (http://www.tldp.org/LDP/LG/current/jayanth.html) which source >>> states 14 colors. >> >> I changed it to 256 colors last week. It originally said 14 but Diana >> told me it was really 256. > > I know you modified it by looking at the editing history so I assumed > you know more about the subject than me. > In the meantime I tried a 256 colors image and it was displayed using > a wrong color palette. > > It would be useful to have 256 colors, as I can easily see the > dithering in this image and probably a 256 colors image will not have > the problem: > http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/MolaBranch/final/fc6grub-splash.png > > > note: even with visible dithering, I think this is a very good GRUB > splash. > I return with answers. I've been asking various people on the installer team and finally got a concrete answer from Jeremy Katz. "jeremy: iirc, it's 16 colors can be used but an xpm is 256 colors (I remember we had this confusion right before fc5)" So... - *GRUB splash is 16 colors* With one black and one white. So you've only really got 14 colors. - Anaconda prompt (aka syslinux-splash) is ALSO 16 colors...One black, one white, AND one red. Which leaves you with 13 other colors. Diana From maestronn at wowway.com Tue Sep 5 16:26:33 2006 From: maestronn at wowway.com (Demond James) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 12:26:33 -0400 Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <44FD907A.5080705@redhat.com> References: <20060905014833.87146.qmail@web35701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44FD8E94.3050709@redhat.com> <44FD907A.5080705@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44FDA539.1000904@wowway.com> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Diana Fong wrote: >> Done...literally in a day with no sleep...though...maybe two because >> Mola is ahead by 8 hours. Hope you guys like it. >> http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/ > > http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/06screen.png > > This one is going to be an issue wrt translations. > > I would recommend the following: > > - left align the pam message ('please enter your username' in this > example) > - align the toolbar buttons alongo the bottom of the screen. Depending > on various settings there may be more or less of these and once > they're translated to languages like German they will blow out of the > box they're in. > > This is really different from the current GDM theme though - how is it > going to be implemented in time? You might be able to take a plainer > GDM theme and just make that image the BG though. > > ~m > > _________________________________________ How about changing the window borders and panels to be similar or more complementary to the glassy blue color that is used in the background. We can just do a color change since time is short. Demond From spydrrrrr at gmail.com Tue Sep 5 19:33:25 2006 From: spydrrrrr at gmail.com (spydrrrrr at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 15:33:25 -0400 Subject: requesting fedora artwork.. how long does it take? In-Reply-To: <44FD8936.6050703@nicubunu.ro> References: <44FD8936.6050703@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: *logo at fedoraproject.org* On 9/5/06, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > Leon wrote: > > On Mon, 09/04/2006 21:48 +0100, spydrrrrr-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w wrote: > > > >> He all,I sent an email requesting the fedora artwork... I have not > >> recieve anything yet? How long does it take after the request?It's > >> been over 1 week?Thanks. > > > > Which email did you send to? > > I would guess the email was sent to the address mentioned here: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo > > -- > nicu > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sdl.web at gmail.com Tue Sep 5 21:44:36 2006 From: sdl.web at gmail.com (Leon) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 22:44:36 +0100 Subject: requesting fedora artwork.. how long does it take? References: <44FD8936.6050703@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Tue, 09/05/2006 20:33 +0100, spydrrrrr-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w wrote: > On 9/5/06, Nicu Buculei > wrote:Leon wrote: >> On Mon, 09/04/2006 21:48 +0100, spydrrrrr-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w wrote:>>> He all,I sent an email requesting the fedora artwork... I have not>> recieve anything yet? How long does it take after the request?It's >>> been over 1 week?Thanks.>> Which email did you send to?I would guess the email was sent to the address mentioned here:http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo--nicuCool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.orgmy Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro_______________________________________________Fedora-art-list mailing listmailto:Fedora-art-list at redhat.comhttp://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list I can't read your email:( -- Leon From duffy at redhat.com Tue Sep 5 21:54:34 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 17:54:34 -0400 Subject: requesting fedora artwork.. how long does it take? In-Reply-To: References: <44FD8936.6050703@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <44FDF21A.4000209@redhat.com> Hi spydrrrrr, spydrrrrr at gmail.com wrote: > *logo at fedoraproject.org * > The Fedora art team doesn't actually receive emails sent to that address. But that really isn't the appropriate email address to send art requests to. That is the list to send a request for a copy of the Fedora logo. If you have an artwork request for the Art team send it to this list! :) ~m From igorm5 at vip.hr Tue Sep 5 22:40:56 2006 From: igorm5 at vip.hr (Igor Jagec) Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:40:56 +0200 Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <44FD8E94.3050709@redhat.com> References: <20060905014833.87146.qmail@web35701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44FD8E94.3050709@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44FDFCF8.1020301@vip.hr> Diana Fong wrote: > Done...literally in a day with no sleep...though...maybe two because > Mola is ahead by 8 hours. > Hope you guys like it. http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/ Nice work Diana, I like it very much. I hope you'll push it into Rawhide very soon ;) -- Igor Jagec From spydrrrrr at gmail.com Tue Sep 5 23:44:08 2006 From: spydrrrrr at gmail.com (spydrrrrr at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:44:08 -0400 Subject: requesting fedora artwork.. how long does it take? In-Reply-To: <44FDF21A.4000209@redhat.com> References: <44FD8936.6050703@nicubunu.ro> <44FDF21A.4000209@redhat.com> Message-ID: ok thanks. However according to the wiki that is the email address to request a logo artwork from; this is from the wiki: See here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo#head-9dfa2a52bad64b81f277455f6abf420bcf13c4ed >"Can I get this logo in other sizes or formats? > >Scalable vector versions of the logo can be obtained by sending a request to: >logo at fedoraproject.org > >The following versions are available: > Fedora Logo Full - The full text + "infinity" logo > Fedora Logo Infinity - The "infinity" logo, no text > Fedora Logotype - The logo text without the "infinity" logo " Basically I would like a vector version of the fedora logo from Fedora core 5. So I can work at creating new desktop background.... Does that make sense...? Like the logo that the FC6 theme that was sent out today used... I am looking for a vector version of this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/WikiGraphics?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Fedora_Design.png Where can I get a copy of the official logo so I can modify it? If that email is not the correct location to get the official version of the logo where do I get it? from this list? On 9/5/06, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi spydrrrrr, > > spydrrrrr at gmail.com wrote: > > *logo at fedoraproject.org * > > > > The Fedora art team doesn't actually receive emails sent to that > address. But that really isn't the appropriate email address to send art > requests to. That is the list to send a request for a copy of the Fedora > logo. > > If you have an artwork request for the Art team send it to this list! :) > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > From spydrrrrr at gmail.com Tue Sep 5 23:56:30 2006 From: spydrrrrr at gmail.com (spydrrrrr at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:56:30 -0400 Subject: Where do I get the Official graphics? the Wiki says one thing and the list says another??? Message-ID: Hi everyone... I am new to this art work discussion group and new to trying to contribute to the project... I must say it is very frustrating to say the least and also very confusing... I have contributed to other projects before and I must say that this one is the most difficult... it's been more than two weeks since my initial attempt at contributing and to this day I have still not been able to get to contribute in any way since I am not able to get the "official vector graphics" and also the initial journey to get to the point where I am approved in the arts-project was extremely frustrating... With that said I would like to offer to write and "Step-by-Step guide" to enable someone that would like to contribute to this project could do so without all the issues I have faced, and quite frankly am still facing since I still do not know where to get the official graphics from...? The Wiki says to send an email if I want scalable vector version of the Fedora logo to logo at fedoraproject.org. Now other on this list have replied and said that this is not the case... How do I get the "official vector" Fedora Core logo that will or is being used in FC6 or do I need to modify the FC5 logo...? I am not trying to be difficult here... I really just want to start contributing but still have not been afforded the chance to do so... I will give the project another week or so and if I am not able to contribute I will just give up...I would rather not give up.. but it seems to me that this project is only open to a few people that seem annoyed when I ask a question about something so basic as "where do I get the official vector graphics from" Is that such a hard question? Phil From spydrrrrr at gmail.com Tue Sep 5 23:58:53 2006 From: spydrrrrr at gmail.com (spydrrrrr at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:58:53 -0400 Subject: Help with FC6 Theme In-Reply-To: <44FD964F.2090803@redhat.com> References: <20060831220755.B72E8734EF@hormel.redhat.com> <1157139904.3137.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> <44F898B5.40004@redhat.com> <44FBC561.9020501@nicubunu.ro> <44FD89D0.7010905@redhat.com> <44FD8C81.6050205@nicubunu.ro> <44FD964F.2090803@redhat.com> Message-ID: Hey people in this thread.... Where did you get the logo's from? The official Fedora Core 5/6 logo that you modified in this background? How can I get them? On 9/5/06, Diana Fong wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: > > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> Nicu Buculei wrote: > >>> I admit of being lazy and not testing myself (it would require a > >>> reboot of my computer :p ), the theming overview page list 256 > >>> colors for GRUB and cites a source > >>> (http://www.tldp.org/LDP/LG/current/jayanth.html) which source > >>> states 14 colors. > >> > >> I changed it to 256 colors last week. It originally said 14 but Diana > >> told me it was really 256. > > > > I know you modified it by looking at the editing history so I assumed > > you know more about the subject than me. > > In the meantime I tried a 256 colors image and it was displayed using > > a wrong color palette. > > > > It would be useful to have 256 colors, as I can easily see the > > dithering in this image and probably a 256 colors image will not have > > the problem: > > http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/MolaBranch/final/fc6grub-splash.png > > > > > > note: even with visible dithering, I think this is a very good GRUB > > splash. > > > I return with answers. I've been asking various people on the installer > team and finally got a concrete answer from Jeremy Katz. > > "jeremy: iirc, it's 16 colors can be used but an xpm is 256 colors (I > remember we had this confusion right before fc5)" > > So... > - *GRUB splash is 16 colors* With one black and one white. So you've > only really got 14 colors. > - Anaconda prompt (aka syslinux-splash) is ALSO 16 colors...One black, > one white, AND one red. Which leaves you with 13 other colors. > > Diana > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > From spydrrrrr at gmail.com Wed Sep 6 00:14:15 2006 From: spydrrrrr at gmail.com (spydrrrrr at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 20:14:15 -0400 Subject: apologies for my... Message-ID: I am sorry for sounding like I am whining... I really just think this should not be that hard... process should be... 1- do the steps to be approved in art project 2- get approval 3- get link to all the scalable graphics and brief summary of what is needed anyway... If I sounded like a whining child I apologize... If someone would be so kind as to point me in the right direction that would be appreciated. From jjmasek at gmail.com Wed Sep 6 08:14:43 2006 From: jjmasek at gmail.com (Jiri Jakub Masek) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 10:14:43 +0200 Subject: FEDORA LOGOTYPE and FEDORA LOGO Message-ID: Hi, if I understand it, FEDORA LOGOTYPE and FEDORA LOGO are trade marks and this could be the reason to be untouchable. What about to make FEDORA LOGOTYPE and FEDORA LOGO stamp to use it in graphics as only one untouchable element? That could allow to create variant graphics sets for FEDORA. A preview is published on http://juiceoff.8m.com JJM -- I'm still learning English... Ji?? Jakub Ma?ek - Jiri Jakub Masek Czech Republic, European Union -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Sep 6 08:38:05 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:38:05 +0300 Subject: FEDORA LOGOTYPE and FEDORA LOGO In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44FE88ED.6050705@nicubunu.ro> Jiri Jakub Masek wrote: > Hi, if I understand it, FEDORA LOGOTYPE and FEDORA LOGO are trade marks > and this could be the reason to be untouchable. What about to make Indeed, those are trademarks and the use is restricted. Not untouchable, but under very strict conditions: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines > FEDORA LOGOTYPE and FEDORA LOGO stamp to use it in graphics as only one > untouchable element? That could allow to create variant graphics sets I am not very sure about a stamp: for it to be useful, the logo need to be in scalable format (scaling a raster image is suboptimal) and salable means source code, so trademark troubles... I saw recently some talk about an alternate logo, with less restrictions. This has ups (free usage) and downs (weaker branding). > for FEDORA. A preview is published on http://juiceoff.8m.com As for the way you proposed it: the stamp should have at least transparency, in your example the light blue background of the stamp is just unfit with the green background of the larger image. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Sep 6 13:34:20 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:04:20 +0530 Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <44FD8E94.3050709@redhat.com> References: <20060905014833.87146.qmail@web35701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44FD8E94.3050709@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44FECE5C.3000004@fedoraproject.org> Diana Fong wrote: > Done...literally in a day with no sleep...though...maybe two because > Mola is ahead by 8 hours. Hope you guys like it. > http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/ > DNA idea from Mairin. > A HUGE thank you to Mola for experimenting and help setting the look > with his 3D modeling and rendering (Blender). Thank you so much Mola! > > Also would like to thank John Baer as well for experimenting with a > different look and feel. I think in FC7, there will be a lot of > interesting approaches from many talented people. =) > > Diana... > Good work. The "Fedora" text is Anaconda image has a 3D blend while the rest of them dont and some of the text in other images appear dithered. The blue progress bar in RHGB doesnt match the rest of the blue in the image. Rahul From duffy at redhat.com Wed Sep 6 14:01:45 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:01:45 -0400 Subject: Where do I get the Official graphics? the Wiki says one thing and the list says another??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44FED4C9.2050403@redhat.com> Hi Phil, To be fair, the subject of this thread is just not true. We are saying the same thing here that is written up on the wiki. Basically: 1) If you want vector versions of the Fedora LOGO, LOGOTYPE, or FULL LOGO you must email logo at fedoraproject.org. This has not been contradicted on this list. 2) If you have a request for artwork, such as a splash banner or an icon for an application you are developing, the appropriate place to contact for the design and creation of the artwork is this list, fedora-art-list at redhat.com. Phil, we never received your first email because it was sent to logo at fedoraproject.org. As far as I know, no one on this list gets email sent to that address. We were only aware of your issue getting the logo artwork when you sent your email yesterday saying it had been a week or so and you'd gotten no response. Your email was ambiguous to me at least, though, because I could not tell if you wanted actual artwork (e.g., 'I need an icon for my app' or 'I want a Fedora banner for my website.') or just the vector format copies of the Fedora logo, logotype, and/or full logo. Now, over a week with no reply from logo at fedoraproject.org makes it very difficult to contribute artwork. I think anyone would agree with that. I will investigate to see who watches that mailing address and see what the hold up is, and if there is a standard amount of time you are expected to wait for a response then I can post that on the wiki. In the meantime, as has been mentioned earlier on this list, there is a copy of the Fedora infinity logo in every copy of FC5+ at /usr/share/pixmaps/fedora-logo-sprite.svg. ~m From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Sep 6 14:07:01 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:37:01 +0530 Subject: Where do I get the Official graphics? the Wiki says one thing and the list says another??? In-Reply-To: <44FED4C9.2050403@redhat.com> References: <44FED4C9.2050403@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44FED605.9050004@fedoraproject.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Now, over a week with no reply from logo at fedoraproject.org makes it very > difficult to contribute artwork. I think anyone would agree with that. I > will investigate to see who watches that mailing address and see what > the hold up is, and if there is a standard amount of time you are > expected to wait for a response then I can post that on the wiki. In the > meantime, as has been mentioned earlier on this list, there is a copy of > the Fedora infinity logo in every copy of FC5+ at > /usr/share/pixmaps/fedora-logo-sprite.svg. Greg Dek takes care of the requests currently. A week or so is normal for the queue but if its urgent you can poke him directly and check. Rahul From duffy at redhat.com Wed Sep 6 14:10:53 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:10:53 -0400 Subject: Where do I get the Official graphics? the Wiki says one thing and the list says another??? In-Reply-To: <44FED605.9050004@fedoraproject.org> References: <44FED4C9.2050403@redhat.com> <44FED605.9050004@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <44FED6ED.4030502@redhat.com> Rahul wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> >> Now, over a week with no reply from logo at fedoraproject.org makes it >> very difficult to contribute artwork. I think anyone would agree with >> that. I will investigate to see who watches that mailing address and >> see what the hold up is, and if there is a standard amount of time you >> are expected to wait for a response then I can post that on the wiki. >> In the meantime, as has been mentioned earlier on this list, there is >> a copy of the Fedora infinity logo in every copy of FC5+ at >> /usr/share/pixmaps/fedora-logo-sprite.svg. > > Greg Dek takes care of the requests currently. A week or so is normal > for the queue but if its urgent you can poke him directly and check. Ok, hopefully some more people would be willing to help him out with that; I certainly would. ~m From REDACTED at univ-rennes1.fr Wed Sep 6 14:58:54 2006 From: REDACTED at univ-rennes1.fr (NAME REDACTED) Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:58:54 +0200 Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <44FECE5C.3000004@fedoraproject.org> References: <20060905014833.87146.qmail@web35701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44FD8E94.3050709@redhat.com> <44FECE5C.3000004@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1157554734.5650.12.camel@mr129173.cri.univ-rennes1.fr> Very nice work !!! On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 19:04 +0530, Rahul wrote: > Diana Fong wrote: > > Done...literally in a day with no sleep...though...maybe two because > > Mola is ahead by 8 hours. Hope you guys like it. > > http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/ > > DNA idea from Mairin. > > A HUGE thank you to Mola for experimenting and help setting the look > > with his 3D modeling and rendering (Blender). Thank you so much Mola! > > > > Also would like to thank John Baer as well for experimenting with a > > different look and feel. I think in FC7, there will be a lot of > > interesting approaches from many talented people. =) > > > > Diana... > > > > Good work. The "Fedora" text is Anaconda image has a 3D blend while the > rest of them dont and some of the text in other images appear dithered. > The blue progress bar in RHGB doesnt match the rest of the blue in the > image. > > Rahul > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list \|/ (o o) #----------------ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------# | | | Name : NAME REDACTED | | Phone : 02 23 23 71 25 | | Email : REDACTED at univ-rennes1.fr | | Web : http://www.tux-planet.fr/ | #-----------------------------------------------# -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From baerjj at gmail.com Wed Sep 6 15:23:22 2006 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 11:23:22 -0400 Subject: GRUB Advice Message-ID: <484ace5d0609060823y6b7eb781p436f53b64bc5249f@mail.gmail.com> > > 1. Re: GRUB - thinking about (Nicu Buculei) > > Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:10:31 +0300 > From: Nicu Buculei > Subject: Re: GRUB - thinking about > To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including > icons, themes, and wallpapers." > > I think no background for GRUB is not a real option and gradients can be > used, only take great care in using dithering. > Personally, I am quite happy with the GRUB background I am using right > now on my 19" CRT, and it is made using 16 colors, in 256 would be much > better: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/temp/splash.xpm.gz > > Nicu, I've tested some GRUB images but the quality is not what I hoped for. Would it be possible for you to post a how-to for myself and others to follow? 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Basically: > > 1) If you want vector versions of the Fedora LOGO, LOGOTYPE, or FULL > LOGO you must email logo at fedoraproject.org. This has not been > contradicted on this list. > > 2) If you have a request for artwork, such as a splash banner or an icon > for an application you are developing, the appropriate place to contact > for the design and creation of the artwork is this list, > fedora-art-list at redhat.com. > > Phil, we never received your first email because it was sent to > logo at fedoraproject.org. As far as I know, no one on this list gets email > sent to that address. We were only aware of your issue getting the logo > artwork when you sent your email yesterday saying it had been a week or > so and you'd gotten no response. > > Your email was ambiguous to me at least, though, because I could not > tell if you wanted actual artwork (e.g., 'I need an icon for my app' or > 'I want a Fedora banner for my website.') or just the vector format > copies of the Fedora logo, logotype, and/or full logo. > > Now, over a week with no reply from logo at fedoraproject.org makes it very > difficult to contribute artwork. I think anyone would agree with that. I > will investigate to see who watches that mailing address and see what > the hold up is, and if there is a standard amount of time you are > expected to wait for a response then I can post that on the wiki. In the > meantime, as has been mentioned earlier on this list, there is a copy of > the Fedora infinity logo in every copy of FC5+ at > /usr/share/pixmaps/fedora-logo-sprite.svg. > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > From dfong at redhat.com Wed Sep 6 22:40:49 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:40:49 -0400 Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <44FDA539.1000904@wowway.com> References: <20060905014833.87146.qmail@web35701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44FD8E94.3050709@redhat.com> <44FD907A.5080705@redhat.com> <44FDA539.1000904@wowway.com> Message-ID: <44FF4E71.1060901@redhat.com> Demond James wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Diana Fong wrote: >>> Done...literally in a day with no sleep...though...maybe two because >>> Mola is ahead by 8 hours. Hope you guys like it. >>> http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/ >> >> http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/06screen.png >> >> This one is going to be an issue wrt translations. >> >> I would recommend the following: >> >> - left align the pam message ('please enter your username' in this >> example) >> - align the toolbar buttons alongo the bottom of the screen. >> Depending on various settings there may be more or less of these and >> once they're translated to languages like German they will blow out >> of the box they're in. >> >> This is really different from the current GDM theme though - how is >> it going to be implemented in time? You might be able to take a >> plainer GDM theme and just make that image the BG though. >> >> ~m >> >> _________________________________________ > How about changing the window borders and panels to be similar or more > complementary to the glassy blue color that is used in the > background. We can just do a color change since time is short. > > Demond The mockup for the login was indeed too involved for the limited time to implement. I looked around and made a variation based off of "BlueSwirl" by DarkKnight9 found at [1]. Also took pieces from the FC5 Fedora Bubbles GDM as well as from "Gnome Moment" by jordiablo [2]. Here's a screenshot [3]...there's an extra piece of text "Linux" which I can't seem to get rid of...if someone could take a look? Here's the greeter theme [4]. Diana [1] http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter/1201 [2] http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter/1266 [3] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/Screenshot1.png [4] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/BlueSwirl.zip From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Sep 7 05:39:12 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 08:39:12 +0300 Subject: GRUB Advice In-Reply-To: <484ace5d0609060823y6b7eb781p436f53b64bc5249f@mail.gmail.com> References: <484ace5d0609060823y6b7eb781p436f53b64bc5249f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44FFB080.1030201@nicubunu.ro> John Baer wrote: > > I've tested some GRUB images but the quality is not what I hoped for. > Would it be possible for you to post a how-to for myself and others to > follow? The truth is, not all images are born equal :p There is *no way* to take a full color photo and convert it to 16 colors and have it still looking good. OTOH, a drawing will convert much better as it already uses very few colors. The best thing is to plan ahead and have in mind from the beginning what you need, make use of as little as possible colors and gradients. Maybe have two variants of the image: on with few colors and another one without limitation and use each image where is appropriate. > I am using GIMP to build my image with a 16 color pallet but I am unsure > what dithering option to select and I am unsure if the choice of colors > has an impact on image quality. GIMP have 4 options for dithering and for each image another one may produce the best result, so you really have to experiment. Use this as a starting point: http://gug.sunsite.dk/tutorials/tomcat15/ , it is about reducing to 256 colors, but it may be useful. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From igorm5 at vip.hr Thu Sep 7 09:41:59 2006 From: igorm5 at vip.hr (Igor Jagec) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:41:59 +0200 Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <44FF4E71.1060901@redhat.com> References: <20060905014833.87146.qmail@web35701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44FD8E94.3050709@redhat.com> <44FD907A.5080705@redhat.com> <44FDA539.1000904@wowway.com> <44FF4E71.1060901@redhat.com> Message-ID: <44FFE967.2040303@vip.hr> Diana Fong wrote: > Here's a screenshot [3]...there's an extra piece of text "Linux" which I > can't seem to get rid of...if someone could take a look? Here's the > greeter theme [4]. > [1] http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter/1201 > [2] http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter/1266 > [3] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/Screenshot1.png > [4] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/BlueSwirl.zip It looks nice, but it's too dark. It looks black on my Samsung 757NF, rather than dark blue (as it probably should). I prefer lighter colors myself, such as Fedora Bubbles theme. Cheers! -- Igor Jagec From dfong at redhat.com Thu Sep 7 13:41:20 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 09:41:20 -0400 Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <44FFE967.2040303@vip.hr> References: <20060905014833.87146.qmail@web35701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44FD8E94.3050709@redhat.com> <44FD907A.5080705@redhat.com> <44FDA539.1000904@wowway.com> <44FF4E71.1060901@redhat.com> <44FFE967.2040303@vip.hr> Message-ID: <45002180.80206@redhat.com> Igor Jagec wrote: > Diana Fong wrote: > > >> Here's a screenshot [3]...there's an extra piece of text "Linux" which I >> can't seem to get rid of...if someone could take a look? Here's the >> greeter theme [4]. >> [1] http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter/1201 >> [2] http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter/1266 >> [3] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/Screenshot1.png >> [4] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/BlueSwirl.zip >> > > It looks nice, but it's too dark. It looks black on my Samsung 757NF, > rather than dark blue (as it probably should). I prefer lighter colors > myself, such as Fedora Bubbles theme. > > Cheers! > > Yup...been getting a few reports of it being too dark. Am working on lightening it up a bit...though it probabaly won't be as light as the Fedora Bubbles. I will post when I've finished the modifications. =) The GDM is also fixed...apparently "Linux" appears due to a tagging difference. Hehe... Diana From duffy at redhat.com Thu Sep 7 13:48:31 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 09:48:31 -0400 Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <44FF4E71.1060901@redhat.com> References: <20060905014833.87146.qmail@web35701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44FD8E94.3050709@redhat.com> <44FD907A.5080705@redhat.com> <44FDA539.1000904@wowway.com> <44FF4E71.1060901@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4500232F.6060200@redhat.com> Diana Fong wrote: > Demond James wrote: >> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >>> Diana Fong wrote: >>>> Done...literally in a day with no sleep...though...maybe two because >>>> Mola is ahead by 8 hours. Hope you guys like it. >>>> http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/ >>> >>> http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/06screen.png >>> >>> This one is going to be an issue wrt translations. >>> >>> I would recommend the following: >>> >>> - left align the pam message ('please enter your username' in this >>> example) >>> - align the toolbar buttons alongo the bottom of the screen. >>> Depending on various settings there may be more or less of these and >>> once they're translated to languages like German they will blow out >>> of the box they're in. >>> >>> This is really different from the current GDM theme though - how is >>> it going to be implemented in time? You might be able to take a >>> plainer GDM theme and just make that image the BG though. >>> >>> ~m >>> >>> _________________________________________ >> How about changing the window borders and panels to be similar or more >> complementary to the glassy blue color that is used in the >> background. We can just do a color change since time is short. >> >> Demond > > The mockup for the login was indeed too involved for the limited time to > implement. I looked around and made a variation based off of > "BlueSwirl" by DarkKnight9 found at [1]. Also took pieces from the FC5 > Fedora Bubbles GDM as well as from "Gnome Moment" by jordiablo [2]. > Here's a screenshot [3]...there's an extra piece of text "Linux" which I > can't seem to get rid of...if someone could take a look? Here's the > greeter theme [4]. > > Diana > > [1] http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter/1201 > [2] http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter/1266 > [3] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/Screenshot1.png > [4] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/BlueSwirl.zip I'll take a look at the "Linux" thing if I have time later, but... how does that show up if you make the Xnest window widescreen? Or > the resolution of the BG image? ~m From onuorah_ifeoma at yahoo.com Thu Sep 7 13:08:45 2006 From: onuorah_ifeoma at yahoo.com (Ifeoma Onuorah) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 06:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fedora wiki key Message-ID: <20060907130845.16873.qmail@web35706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey everyone! I have a question.. I was wondering if anyone knew how to get the key that you need to keep track of in order to post on the wiki. In case you need to put it on another computer and how you would go about doing that. Are there any tutorials? Thanx -Ify __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Sep 7 14:15:55 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:15:55 +0300 Subject: Fedora wiki key In-Reply-To: <20060907130845.16873.qmail@web35706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060907130845.16873.qmail@web35706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4500299B.7030001@nicubunu.ro> Ifeoma Onuorah wrote: > Hey everyone! I have a question.. I was wondering if > anyone knew how to get the key that you need to keep > track of in order to post on the wiki. In case you > need to put it on another computer and how you would > go about doing that. Are there any tutorials? The tutorials are linked from here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem Your security keys are located in your home directory: - for ssh in .ssh/ - for gpg in .gnupg/ -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Sep 7 14:21:16 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:21:16 +0300 Subject: Fedora wiki key In-Reply-To: <4500299B.7030001@nicubunu.ro> References: <20060907130845.16873.qmail@web35706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4500299B.7030001@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <45002ADC.3010000@nicubunu.ro> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Ifeoma Onuorah wrote: >> Hey everyone! I have a question.. I was wondering if >> anyone knew how to get the key that you need to keep >> track of in order to post on the wiki. In case you >> need to put it on another computer and how you would >> go about doing that. Are there any tutorials? > > The tutorials are linked from here: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AccountSystem > > Your security keys are located in your home directory: > > - for ssh in .ssh/ > - for gpg in .gnupg/ Sorry, my reply was rushed and incomplete: those keys are needed to get initial acces and for various types of contributions (shell access, sign packages). Once you have write access to the wiki, on another computer you don't need anything: just the username and password. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From jfrieben at freesurf.fr Thu Sep 7 14:27:33 2006 From: jfrieben at freesurf.fr (Joachim Frieben) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:27:33 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <45002180.80206@redhat.com> References: <45002180.80206@redhat.com> Message-ID: <11529.194.94.224.254.1157639253.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> And please also have a look at the "rhgb" logo whose background should fit the surrounding blue and not be (approximately) black. The "grub" splashscreen definitely needs to be worked out for 14 colors unless one does not care about a huge difference between the "grub" background rendered on the screen and the "splash.xpm" displayed with "eog" and the like. The boot loader entries are now displayed on top of a completely black background and a pixelish part of a helix showing psychedelic colors. > > Yup...been getting a few reports of it being too dark. Am working on > lightening it up a bit...though it probabaly won't be as light as the > Fedora Bubbles. I will post when I've finished the modifications. =) > The GDM is also fixed...apparently "Linux" appears due to a tagging > difference. Hehe... > > Diana > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list From dfong at redhat.com Thu Sep 7 14:43:26 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:43:26 -0400 Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <4500232F.6060200@redhat.com> References: <20060905014833.87146.qmail@web35701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44FD8E94.3050709@redhat.com> <44FD907A.5080705@redhat.com> <44FDA539.1000904@wowway.com> <44FF4E71.1060901@redhat.com> <4500232F.6060200@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4500300E.50203@redhat.com> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > I'll take a look at the "Linux" thing if I have time later, but... how > does that show up if you make the Xnest window widescreen? Or > the > resolution of the BG image? It did...but it's fixed now. Thanks. Diana From duffy at redhat.com Thu Sep 7 14:48:24 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:48:24 -0400 Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <4500300E.50203@redhat.com> References: <20060905014833.87146.qmail@web35701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44FD8E94.3050709@redhat.com> <44FD907A.5080705@redhat.com> <44FDA539.1000904@wowway.com> <44FF4E71.1060901@redhat.com> <4500232F.6060200@redhat.com> <4500300E.50203@redhat.com> Message-ID: <45003138.7040301@redhat.com> Diana Fong wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> >> I'll take a look at the "Linux" thing if I have time later, but... how >> does that show up if you make the Xnest window widescreen? Or > the >> resolution of the BG image? > > It did...but it's fixed now. Thanks. It did what? What resolution is the bitmap at right now? Also, you should double-check all the PAM messages to make sure they are showing up right. ~m From dfong at redhat.com Thu Sep 7 15:00:02 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:00:02 -0400 Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <11529.194.94.224.254.1157639253.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> References: <45002180.80206@redhat.com> <11529.194.94.224.254.1157639253.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> Message-ID: <450033F2.8000205@redhat.com> Joachim Frieben wrote: Due to several reports of it looking very dark on CRTs and the like...I'm working on a "lighter" version. Therefore most of the graphics and background colors will be redone. But I'll add these to my list to double check against the final. > And please also have a look at the "rhgb" logo whose background should fit > the surrounding blue and not be (approximately) black. > rhgb logo? are you referring to the rhgb-closed graphics? the system-logo in that portion has a transparent background. > The "grub" splashscreen definitely needs to be worked out for 14 colors > unless one does not care about a huge difference between the "grub" > background rendered on the screen and the "splash.xpm" displayed with "eog" > and the like. > will look into it... > The boot loader entries are now displayed on top of a completely black > > background and a pixelish part of a helix showing psychedelic colors. The "Boot loader" you mention is referring to which screen? If it is Screen1, syslinux-splash...then yes, I'm working on it =) If it's another screen let me know...so I can add to my fix list. Thanks for the feedback. Diana From dfong at redhat.com Thu Sep 7 15:09:29 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 11:09:29 -0400 Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <45003138.7040301@redhat.com> References: <20060905014833.87146.qmail@web35701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <44FD8E94.3050709@redhat.com> <44FD907A.5080705@redhat.com> <44FDA539.1000904@wowway.com> <44FF4E71.1060901@redhat.com> <4500232F.6060200@redhat.com> <4500300E.50203@redhat.com> <45003138.7040301@redhat.com> Message-ID: <45003629.7010801@redhat.com> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Diana Fong wrote: >> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >>> >>> I'll take a look at the "Linux" thing if I have time later, but... >>> how does that show up if you make the Xnest window widescreen? Or > >>> the resolution of the BG image? >> >> It did...but it's fixed now. Thanks. > > It did what? What resolution is the bitmap at right now? > Ah sorry, misread...I thought you asked if the "linux" thing showed up if I made it widescreen and whatnot. ^_^ bitmap used is currently 1280x1024 72dpi...I have other versions if a different size is needed. So far it looks ok, even on higher resolutions/sizes larger than the image itself. But we can determine the optimum background size and replace it easily. > Also, you should double-check all the PAM messages to make sure they > are showing up right. Yup, did some of that. It is currently being looked into further...in addition to smart card prompts and such. Matthias was testing it out last night and now Ray is looking at it as well. Diana From jfrieben at freesurf.fr Thu Sep 7 17:48:13 2006 From: jfrieben at freesurf.fr (Joachim Frieben) Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 19:48:13 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <450033F2.8000205@redhat.com> References: <450033F2.8000205@redhat.com> Message-ID: <36115.194.94.224.254.1157651293.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> I am referring to "/usr/share/rhgb/main-logo.png" which looks like a dark patch plastered to the blue background. Fairly ugly, indeed .. The "Fedora" logo used to appear instead looked decidedly much more decent. > rhgb logo? are you referring to the rhgb-closed graphics? the > system-logo in that portion has a transparent background. From dfong at redhat.com Thu Sep 7 18:31:36 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:31:36 -0400 Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <36115.194.94.224.254.1157651293.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> References: <450033F2.8000205@redhat.com> <36115.194.94.224.254.1157651293.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> Message-ID: <45006588.90305@redhat.com> Joachim Frieben wrote: > I am referring to "/usr/share/rhgb/main-logo.png" which looks like a dark > patch plastered to the blue background. Fairly ugly, indeed .. > The "Fedora" logo used to appear instead looked decidedly much more decent. /me add to list And about the Boot loader (aka GRUB splash) mentioned in your previous email. Finally saw it...psychedelic colors indeed. O_O The 16 colors worked for the Syslinux-splash but not with GRUB...looking into it...will post resolution after it's figured out. Thanks Diana From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Sep 8 05:49:48 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 08:49:48 +0300 Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <45006588.90305@redhat.com> References: <450033F2.8000205@redhat.com> <36115.194.94.224.254.1157651293.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> <45006588.90305@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4501047C.6060000@nicubunu.ro> Diana Fong wrote: > > And about the Boot loader (aka GRUB splash) mentioned in your previous > email. Finally saw it...psychedelic colors indeed. O_O The 16 colors > worked for the Syslinux-splash but not with GRUB...looking into > it...will post resolution after it's figured out. It may be because it need 14 colors instead of 16? (I had such psychedelic colors when tried 256 colors, converted to 14 and all went fine) -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From dfong at redhat.com Fri Sep 8 15:25:24 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 11:25:24 -0400 Subject: Fedora 6 , Background In-Reply-To: <4501047C.6060000@nicubunu.ro> References: <450033F2.8000205@redhat.com> <36115.194.94.224.254.1157651293.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> <45006588.90305@redhat.com> <4501047C.6060000@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <45018B64.6000409@redhat.com> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Diana Fong wrote: >> >> And about the Boot loader (aka GRUB splash) mentioned in your >> previous email. Finally saw it...psychedelic colors indeed. O_O >> The 16 colors worked for the Syslinux-splash but not with >> GRUB...looking into it...will post resolution after it's figured out. > > It may be because it need 14 colors instead of 16? (I had such > psychedelic colors when tried 256 colors, converted to 14 and all went > fine) > Yea...I'm not entirely sure either. I saved it again via the Gimp and manually set the black & white within the 16 color palette. That seem to have fixed the problem. I intend to review all the specifications required for the theme change before opening FC7 design to the community. Hopefully by doing that we can eliminate the technical confusion and focus on the artwork. Thanks. Diana From jjmasek at gmail.com Fri Sep 8 18:40:03 2006 From: jjmasek at gmail.com (Jiri Jakub Masek) Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 20:40:03 +0200 Subject: looking forward Message-ID: Hi, I posted to my web a preview and svg file of the basic idea the FEDORA TANGRAM. Could it be the way to create graphics for CORE 7 ? Couldn't? JJM http://juiceoff.8m.com -- I'm still learning English... Ji?? Jakub Ma?ek - Jiri Jakub Masek Czech Republic, European Union -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From duffy at redhat.com Fri Sep 8 18:41:50 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:41:50 -0400 Subject: looking forward In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4501B96E.3070709@redhat.com> Hi Jiri, Jiri Jakub Masek wrote: > Hi, I posted to my web a preview and svg file of the basic idea the > FEDORA TANGRAM. Could it be the way to create graphics for CORE 7 ? > Couldn't? > > JJM > > http://juiceoff.8m.com I love this idea! I wanna play around with the SVG. I'll send out what I come up with. :) ~m From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Fri Sep 8 19:41:17 2006 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 21:41:17 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core/Extras 6CD/DVD cover art Message-ID: <1157744477.4678.32.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Hi all, Fedora Core 6 release looms, and people are planning celebrations, including Fedora install parties (http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents) It seems it will be a dark blue release. Thanks for the new theming! Unfortunately Fedora cover art is stuck in the current bubblish light blue era : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/CDArt This will seriously diminish the appeal of the shiny disks we want to distribute:( Fortunately Core 6 isos are not available yet, so there is still some time left. I'm asking you talented people to create some new CD/DVD art: 1. it should follow the new DNA theme 2. it should use the minimum possible number of colours - getting pressed CD/DVD printed is usually a per colour expense. 4 colours is the maximum acceptable for the French marketing team, 2-3 ideal. 3. it should be locale-neutral or easily localisable 4. (optional) a Fedora Extras 6 variant (with different main colour) would be nice too If enough local installfests take place the pressed DVD leftovers can probably feed the Freemedia program. Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks for the new theming! > > Unfortunately Fedora cover art is stuck in the current bubblish light > blue era : > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/CDArt > > This will seriously diminish the appeal of the shiny disks we want to > distribute:( > > Fortunately Core 6 isos are not available yet, so there is still some > time left. I'm asking you talented people to create some new CD/DVD art: > > 1. it should follow the new DNA theme > 2. it should use the minimum possible number of colours - getting > pressed CD/DVD printed is usually a per colour expense. 4 colours is the > maximum acceptable for the French marketing team, 2-3 ideal. > 3. it should be locale-neutral or easily localisable > 4. (optional) a Fedora Extras 6 variant (with different main colour) > would be nice too > > If enough local installfests take place the pressed DVD leftovers can > probably feed the Freemedia program. > > Regards, > After discussing on IRC with Diana, we came to conclusion for the following deadline : september 25th : deadline for submission 25 to 29th september : finalisation of the suggested artwork I have to give the art team the following elements : * How a gradient it managed by the manufacturer ? * It is considered as a 2 colors artwork or not ? * Has the printer a template ? * What kind of file they would like to have ? * If it is possible to print artworks as well on paper cases. I'll do my best to provide these informations, i.e. tomorrow morning or not before next wednesday. Thanks -- Thomas Canniot http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Fri Sep 8 21:50:06 2006 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 23:50:06 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core/Extras 6CD/DVD cover art In-Reply-To: <1157751573.3060.81.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> References: <1157744477.4678.32.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <1157751573.3060.81.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Message-ID: <1157752206.4678.58.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le vendredi 08 septembre 2006 ? 23:39 +0200, Thomas Canniot a ?crit : > After discussing on IRC with Diana, we came to conclusion for the > following deadline : > > september 25th : deadline for submission > 25 to 29th september : finalisation of the suggested artwork > > I have to give the art team the following elements : > > * How a gradient is managed by the manufacturer ? > * It is considered as a 2 colors artwork or not ? > * Has the printer a template ? > * What kind of file they would like to have ? > * If it is possible to print artworks as well on paper cases. > > I'll do my best to provide these informations, i.e. tomorrow morning or > not before next wednesday. 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A gradient with one color to transparency is considered 1 color. A gradient from one color to another is considered 2 colors. The above is, of course, on paper. I don't know about printing on DVDs but I'd imagine it's similar. > * It is considered as a 2 colors artwork or not ? > * Has the printer a template ? > * What kind of file they would like to have ? > * If it is possible to print artworks as well on paper cases. The current svg on the website is AFAIK the template that was used to print on a paperboard DVD slipcase. I played around a bit in inkscape - attaching the results, anyone can feel free to play with it. ~m -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: dna-dvd-case.png Type: image/png Size: 39094 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks in advance Charles -- Charles Vinchon French Fedora Ambassador Lille, France (GMT+2 - CEST) http://fedoraproject.org/Wiki/CharlesVinchon mailto:charles.vinchon at fedoraproject.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From jordan at jdnash.org Sat Sep 9 04:36:53 2006 From: jordan at jdnash.org (Jordan) Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 23:36:53 -0500 Subject: Fedora Core/Extras 6CD/DVD cover art In-Reply-To: <20060908222408.353B47333B@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060908222408.353B47333B@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <450244E5.70103@jdnash.org> That looks really good. Assuming -- probably incorrectly -- that you -- or someone else -- are designing for the movie-type DVD case, is there any chance you could go with a 3D perspective on the helix? In other words, show the same helix from 3 different views on the front, side, and back. I think it would look really cool. Of course, I'm too lazy to do it myself, but if someone more skilled than me could do it... - Jordan ---------------- Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2006 18:08:16 -0400 From: M?ir?n Duffy Subject: Re: Fedora Core/Extras 6CD/DVD cover art To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers." Message-ID: <4501E9D0.2020602 at redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Thomas Canniot wrote: > > After discussing on IRC with Diana, we came to conclusion for the > > following deadline : > > > > september 25th : deadline for submission > > 25 to 29th september : finalisation of the suggested artwork > > > > I have to give the art team the following elements : > > > > * How a gradient it managed by the manufacturer ? > I've worked with various printers before I've never had issues getting gradients printed. A gradient with one color to transparency is considered 1 color. A gradient from one color to another is considered 2 colors. The above is, of course, on paper. I don't know about printing on DVDs but I'd imagine it's similar. > > * It is considered as a 2 colors artwork or not ? > > * Has the printer a template ? > > * What kind of file they would like to have ? > > * If it is possible to print artworks as well on paper cases. > The current svg on the website is AFAIK the template that was used to print on a paperboard DVD slipcase. I played around a bit in inkscape - attaching the results, anyone can feel free to play with it. ~m From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Sat Sep 9 07:47:12 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 09:47:12 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core/Extras 6CD/DVD cover art In-Reply-To: <1157751573.3060.81.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> References: <1157744477.4678.32.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <1157751573.3060.81.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Message-ID: <1157788032.2863.9.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Le vendredi 08 septembre 2006 ? 23:39 +0200, Thomas Canniot a ?crit : > Le vendredi 08 septembre 2006 ? 21:41 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot a ?crit : > > Hi all, > > > > Fedora Core 6 release looms, and people are planning celebrations, > > including Fedora install parties > > (http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents) > > > > It seems it will be a dark blue release. Thanks for the new theming! > > > > Unfortunately Fedora cover art is stuck in the current bubblish light > > blue era : > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/CDArt > > > > This will seriously diminish the appeal of the shiny disks we want to > > distribute:( > > > > Fortunately Core 6 isos are not available yet, so there is still some > > time left. I'm asking you talented people to create some new CD/DVD art: > > > > 1. it should follow the new DNA theme > > 2. it should use the minimum possible number of colours - getting > > pressed CD/DVD printed is usually a per colour expense. 4 colours is the > > maximum acceptable for the French marketing team, 2-3 ideal. > > 3. it should be locale-neutral or easily localisable > > 4. (optional) a Fedora Extras 6 variant (with different main colour) > > would be nice too > > > > If enough local installfests take place the pressed DVD leftovers can > > probably feed the Freemedia program. > > > > Regards, > > > > After discussing on IRC with Diana, we came to conclusion for the > following deadline : > > september 25th : deadline for submission > 25 to 29th september : finalisation of the suggested artwork > > I have to give the art team the following elements : > > * How a gradient it managed by the manufacturer ? > * It is considered as a 2 colors artwork or not ? > * Has the printer a template ? > * What kind of file they would like to have ? > * If it is possible to print artworks as well on paper cases. > > I'll do my best to provide these informations, i.e. tomorrow morning or > not before next wednesday. > > Thanks I just found the website of one manufacturer the following pdf files : http://www.duplication-cd.net/uploadSupport/fiche_technique_dupli-cd.pdf http://www.duplication-cd.net/uploadSupport/GABARIT%20POUR%20IMPRESSION% 20DVD-RPRESSAGE%20EN%20SERIGRAPHIE.pdf They are in French /o\ but they habe many informations. I'll try to translate the biggest this afternoon. -- Thomas Canniot http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot From jjmasek at gmail.com Sat Sep 9 08:18:32 2006 From: jjmasek at gmail.com (Jiri Jakub Masek) Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 10:18:32 +0200 Subject: looking forward In-Reply-To: <4501B96E.3070709@redhat.com> References: <4501B96E.3070709@redhat.com> Message-ID: Hi M?ir?n, thanks. O.K., let's play with it, but before we'll start the serious work, we should have a precise list of needed graphics (CD cover also) to save time. Could you appeal anybody to work on? JJM On 9/8/06, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Hi Jiri, > > Jiri Jakub Masek wrote: > > Hi, I posted to my web a preview and svg file of the basic idea the > > FEDORA TANGRAM. Could it be the way to create graphics for CORE 7 ? > > Couldn't? > > > > JJM > > > > http://juiceoff.8m.com > > I love this idea! I wanna play around with the SVG. I'll send out what I > come up with. :) > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- I'm still learning English... Ji?? Jakub Ma?ek - Jiri Jakub Masek Czech Republic, European Union -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The definition from the frontpage of http://fedoraproject.org would be more appropriate. Rahul From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Sat Sep 9 17:53:33 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 19:53:33 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core/Extras 6CD/DVD cover art In-Reply-To: <1157788032.2863.9.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> References: <1157744477.4678.32.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <1157751573.3060.81.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <1157788032.2863.9.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Message-ID: <1157824414.2437.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le samedi 09 septembre 2006 ? 09:47 +0200, Thomas Canniot a ?crit : > Le vendredi 08 septembre 2006 ? 23:39 +0200, Thomas Canniot a ?crit : > I just found the website of one manufacturer the following pdf files : > > http://www.duplication-cd.net/uploadSupport/fiche_technique_dupli-cd.pdf > http://www.duplication-cd.net/uploadSupport/GABARIT%20POUR%20IMPRESSION% > 20DVD-RPRESSAGE%20EN%20SERIGRAPHIE.pdf > > They are in French /o\ but they habe many informations. > I'll try to translate the biggest this afternoon. Her is what the pdf contains. I only retained information useful for the art-list. The accepted digital files accepted must have been made with : InDesign 2 Illustrator 10 Photoshop 6 Acrobat 5.0 All colours must be defined as CMJN Euroscale or Pantone colours. Please consider white as a true colour. Density between colours should be kept between 15% and 85% not to loose too much details. Texts minimal size : 4 pt Line minimal size : 0.2 mm Illustrator files : * Vector objects : 800 pp by default. * Caracteristics : see Photoshop file format indications. * Colours must be quadri and/or direct tones (Pantone nuancier couch? or not) exclusively. * No quadri colors with an inking rate above 280% * Over printing of black : check the dialog box about background and / or boarder (or about transparency box in other Illustrator versions) * Vectorize all fonts. * Use the "info on this file" to validate the document. * Saving files : EPS file format Compatibility : lat version Preview : 8 bits Postscript : level 2 Check box "include imported images" if there are some. Photoshop Files : * Images in CMJN colour or grey levels : 300dpi * Images in bichromie with "tram?s" : 300dpi * Images in Bitmat mode or in bichromie with no "tram?" : 1200dpi * Becareful : no 256 colours only images or in RVG will be accepted. This exclude file formats such as : JPG, PCX, BMP, GIF, PPT, DOC * Maximal inking rate : 280 % * Avoid text under photoshop with a size under 24 pts. Texts are better made with Illustrator and should be made with it. Do not include printing surface (boarder + blank center) Printings on CD directly in Photoshop, files having been reimported. * Vectorised draws saved as masks : nothing to enter. * Direct colour tones, other than CMJN, must be chosen exclusively une the Pantone nuanciers (couch? or not) * Saving Files : Photoshop EPS : 8 Bits, binary coding Tiff : non compression CMJN files, with direct tone surfaces : DCS 2.0 I hope everything is understandable, my dictionnaries are 100km far from me. :/ -- Thomas Canniot http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Sat Sep 9 17:56:04 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 19:56:04 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core/Extras 6CD/DVD cover art In-Reply-To: <1157792049.19835.0.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <1157744477.4678.32.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <1157751573.3060.81.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <1157788032.2863.9.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> <1157792049.19835.0.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <1157824564.2437.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le samedi 09 septembre 2006 ? 10:54 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot a ?crit : > Le samedi 09 septembre 2006 ? 09:47 +0200, Thomas Canniot a ?crit : > > Le vendredi 08 septembre 2006 ? 23:39 +0200, Thomas Canniot a ?crit : > > > Le vendredi 08 septembre 2006 ? 21:41 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot a ?crit : > > > I just found the website of one manufacturer the following pdf files : > > > > http://www.duplication-cd.net/uploadSupport/fiche_technique_dupli-cd.pdf > > http://www.duplication-cd.net/uploadSupport/GABARIT%20POUR%20IMPRESSION% > > 20DVD-RPRESSAGE%20EN%20SERIGRAPHIE.pdf > > If you want to focus on finding the needs of the other manufacturers, I > can help with the translation I think / hope they will all require the sames things :) Thanks for your help. > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Thomas Canniot http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot From baerjj at gmail.com Sun Sep 10 13:34:13 2006 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 09:34:13 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core/Extras 6CD/DVD cover art Message-ID: <1157895254.2957.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> All, For those who would like to submit artwork to the Fedora Core 6 CD/DVD and jewel case initiative I believe some additional information is required. 1. Drawing specification - Using Mairin's submission as an example the dimension of a jewel case cover is 799 x 395 @ 96dpi. Is this correct and what is the dimension of CD/DVD cover? - Is there a pending issue relative to printing on a CD/DVD? Those items need to be documented. 2. What is the exact text of the disclosure that should appear? - CD/DVD media - Jewel case covers Rahul wrote: > The artwork is good but I dont like the wording. The definition from > the frontpage of http://fedoraproject.org would be more appropriate. > As a suggestion for a collaborative sharing area I created a wiki page to hold design criteria and submissions. If this page is not appropriate or already exists just let me know and I will remove it. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/CDArtFC6 I believe this is a great opportunity to exercise the open source value of inclusion and I would encourage all to submit their creative ideas for consideration. Cheers, John BTW: Do not let the "fedora" font be an issue. Any final adjustments can be made in this regard if your submission is selected as the desired choice. From igorm5 at vip.hr Sun Sep 10 14:09:22 2006 From: igorm5 at vip.hr (Igor Jagec) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 16:09:22 +0200 Subject: DNA theme, still too dark... Message-ID: <1157897362.2996.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi there! I updated my Rawhide today and I got the new DNA gdm theme and background picture. The DNA theme still looks black on my Samsung 757NF monitor, rather than dark blue. It would be very nice if you make these pictures lighter, such as Bluecurve theme for instance (it is still not as light as Fedora Bubbles which I like very much). Here are the versions of relevant packages I got today with updates: $ rpm -q redhat-artwork fedora-logos redhat-artwork-5.0.4-2.fc6.i386 fedora-logos-1.1.53-2.fc6.noarch Cheers! From dfong at redhat.com Sun Sep 10 19:55:10 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:55:10 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core/Extras 6CD/DVD cover art In-Reply-To: <1157895254.2957.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1157895254.2957.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <45046D9E.8060604@redhat.com> John Baer wrote: > All, > > For those who would like to submit artwork to the Fedora Core 6 CD/DVD > and jewel case initiative I believe some additional information is > required. > > Thanks for putting up the wiki! I've also just added some of Thomas' translated specs and links to it. Though there's still info missing pertaining to the jewel case/covers. > 1. Drawing specification > - Using Mairin's submission as an example the dimension of a jewel > case cover is 799 x 395 @ 96dpi. Is this correct and what is the > dimension of CD/DVD cover? > > Not sure about the dimensions...but I believe that it should be 300dpi. > - Is there a pending issue relative to printing on a CD/DVD? > Those items need to be documented. > > 2. What is the exact text of the disclosure that should appear? > - CD/DVD media > - Jewel case covers > > This is the exact wording from FC5's cd/dvd + case. |Copyright ? 2006 Red Hat, Inc. All rights reserved. Fedora is a trademark of Red Hat, Inc. The Fedora Project is not a supported product of Red Hat, Inc. The software on this CD is provided and licensed ?as is? without warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied.| > BTW: Do not let the "fedora" font be an issue. Any final adjustments can > be made in this regard if your submission is selected as the desired > choice. Yup...the font and logo issue can be easily adjusted during the finalization period. The 9/26-29/2006 period of finalization is intended for just that...plus any color or size tweaks that might be needed. Diana From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 11 05:13:47 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:43:47 +0530 Subject: DNA theme, still too dark... In-Reply-To: <1157897362.2996.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1157897362.2996.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4504F08B.7080400@fedoraproject.org> Igor Jagec wrote: > Hi there! > > I updated my Rawhide today and I got the new DNA gdm theme and > background picture. The DNA theme still looks black on my Samsung 757NF > monitor, rather than dark blue. It would be very nice if you make these > pictures lighter, such as Bluecurve theme for instance (it is still not > as light as Fedora Bubbles which I like very much). Here are the > versions of relevant packages I got today with updates: > > $ rpm -q redhat-artwork fedora-logos > redhat-artwork-5.0.4-2.fc6.i386 > fedora-logos-1.1.53-2.fc6.noarch > Yep. Its almost pitch black esp in top left. If you enter a wrong password on the GDM, the message is misaligned too far to the left. Rahul From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Mon Sep 11 07:59:29 2006 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 09:59:29 +0200 (CEST) Subject: DNA theme, still too dark... In-Reply-To: <4504F08B.7080400@fedoraproject.org> References: <1157897362.2996.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4504F08B.7080400@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <14589.192.54.193.51.1157961569.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Lun 11 septembre 2006 07:13, Rahul a ?crit : > Yep. Its almost pitch black esp in top left. If you enter a wrong > password on the GDM, the message is misaligned too far to the left. You have this kind of problem even without entering the wrong password in some locales: the "password" text zone is plain too small for some translations (they're not all as concise as english) Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot From baerjj at gmail.com Mon Sep 11 23:32:45 2006 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 19:32:45 -0400 Subject: Tweaking the FC6 Theme In-Reply-To: <20060911160004.7631073383@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060911160004.7631073383@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1158017565.3921.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> Tweaking the FC6 Theme Hats off to Diana and others, great work on the FC6 theme. For those who may have missed this the folks at DistroWatch liked what they saw. http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20060911#news > Yep. Its almost pitch black esp in top left. If you enter a wrong > password on the GDM, the message is misaligned too far to the left. > > Rahul I assume items such as the above can still be remedied under the "Only critical bugs fixed" clause. If this is true I suggest for those who can install "Test-3" or the DNA theme in their current environment we provide feedback based on the hardware (video card/monitor) we are running. Again if this is true, Diana how would you prefer to receive this information; list server or wiki page? I plan to down load Wednesday night :) Cheers, John From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 11 23:38:51 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 05:08:51 +0530 Subject: Tweaking the FC6 Theme In-Reply-To: <1158017565.3921.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060911160004.7631073383@hormel.redhat.com> <1158017565.3921.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4505F38B.8090905@fedoraproject.org> John Baer wrote: > Tweaking the FC6 Theme > > Hats off to Diana and others, great work on the FC6 theme. For those who > may have missed this the folks at DistroWatch liked what they saw. > > http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20060911#news It is claimed to be dark, satanic, gothic, death metal and futuristic ;-) > >> Yep. Its almost pitch black esp in top left. If you enter a wrong >> password on the GDM, the message is misaligned too far to the left. >> >> Rahul > > I assume items such as the above can still be remedied under the "Only > critical bugs fixed" clause. Yep you guys got a free reign for the FC6 release since the freeze process doesnt include artwork yet but we will lockdown earlier in FC7 so get your stuff ready and perfect before the test2 release. > > If this is true I suggest for those who can install "Test-3" or the DNA > theme in their current environment we provide feedback based on the > hardware (video card/monitor) we are running. > > Again if this is true, Diana how would you prefer to receive this > information; list server or wiki page? > > I plan to down load Wednesday night :) > Rahul From dfong at redhat.com Tue Sep 12 00:22:21 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 20:22:21 -0400 Subject: Tweaking the FC6 Theme In-Reply-To: <4505F38B.8090905@fedoraproject.org> References: <20060911160004.7631073383@hormel.redhat.com> <1158017565.3921.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4505F38B.8090905@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4505FDBD.6050608@redhat.com> Rahul wrote: > John Baer wrote: >> http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20060911#news > > It is claimed to be dark, satanic, gothic, death metal and futuristic ;-) Hehe...=) With Mola's help, I've been working on modifications for a "lighter" versionI . It did not make test3, but you can check out the wallpaper at [1] and a smaller version at [2]. Please also test this out. If it appears to be ok, I will redo the other pieces based on it. >>> Yep. Its almost pitch black esp in top left. If you enter a wrong >>> password on the GDM, the message is misaligned too far to the left. >>> >>> Rahul >> >> I assume items such as the above can still be remedied under the "Only >> critical bugs fixed" clause. Yes. Pretty much everything posted to Fedora-art-list in the past few days can still be fixed...from the Log-in to the dark images. >> If this is true I suggest for those who can install "Test-3" or the DNA >> theme in their current environment we provide feedback based on the >> hardware (video card/monitor) we are running. >> Please note that I have created a lighter version which might solve some of the problems. Though...if any existing pieces do work well, that would also be useful to know so as not to spend time redo-ing things that already work. >> Again if this is true, Diana how would you prefer to receive this >> information; list server or wiki page? I was thinking about that today...hmmm....Let's try it as a wiki...this way everything is on one page rather than several emails. =) I can set one up tonight or tomorrow morning with existing feedback and whatnot. Thanks John for proposing this. Diana [1] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/default02.jpg [2] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/default02SM.jpg From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Sep 12 05:34:55 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 08:34:55 +0300 Subject: Tweaking the FC6 Theme In-Reply-To: <4505FDBD.6050608@redhat.com> References: <20060911160004.7631073383@hormel.redhat.com> <1158017565.3921.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4505F38B.8090905@fedoraproject.org> <4505FDBD.6050608@redhat.com> Message-ID: <450646FF.30002@nicubunu.ro> Diana Fong wrote: > Rahul wrote: >> >> It is claimed to be dark, satanic, gothic, death metal and futuristic ;-) And this is supposed to be a bad thing? > With Mola's help, I've been working on modifications for a "lighter" > versionI . It did not make test3, but you can check out the wallpaper > at [1] and a smaller version at [2]. Please also test this out. If it > appears to be ok, I will redo the other pieces based on it. Initially I was afraid I would not like a lighter version as I liked very much the dark one, but seeing your work I liked it. The first impression made by the way the light is falling is of an underwater scenery. Or you can interpret it as light coming from heaven - that much for our death metal goth satanic overlords :p Overall I think it would fit a large audience than the darker one. How about including both versions, made the light image the default and leave the other as an alternative? -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From igorm5 at vip.hr Tue Sep 12 10:12:17 2006 From: igorm5 at vip.hr (Igor Jagec) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:12:17 +0200 Subject: Tweaking the FC6 Theme In-Reply-To: <4505FDBD.6050608@redhat.com> References: <20060911160004.7631073383@hormel.redhat.com> <1158017565.3921.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4505F38B.8090905@fedoraproject.org> <4505FDBD.6050608@redhat.com> Message-ID: <45068801.9000902@vip.hr> Diana Fong wrote: > [1] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/default02.jpg > [2] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/default02SM.jpg Even I prefer more lighter colors, that's much better work then previous, thanks. -- Igor Jagec From n.losito at yahoo.it Tue Sep 12 13:35:56 2006 From: n.losito at yahoo.it (Nicola Losito) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:35:56 +0200 Subject: new theme proposal Message-ID: Hi list! i was searching for another nice theme to use in my Linux box (running Gnome) and i've found the site of this talented (IMHO) artist: http://www.silvestre.com.ar/ I've installed the Dropline NEU! set [1] which is readable, modern, glossy enough to be a "default" one - with the exception of the "action" icons for the theme which could be improved - and they are also complaint of Tango naming guidelines. So, food for thoughts (as usual, i hope) [1] = http://www.silvestre.com.ar/?cat=2 -- Nicola .:kOoLiNuS:. Losito http://koolinus.wordpress.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dimitris at glezos.com Tue Sep 12 14:38:57 2006 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:38:57 +0100 Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page Message-ID: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> Hi all. The Docs project is developing a new splash (default home-) page for the FC6 browser, replacing the current one (basically, the release notes) with something interesting and more useful. The current mock-up is the following: http://dimitris.glezos.com/box/foss/fc6-browser-splash/index-v01.html The wiki page with links to relevant content, and a zipped file of the above mock-up, is: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/FirefoxDefaultSplash It would be nice to have a DNA-ish theme on this page. Especially the header could be replaced. If someone from the artwork team could draw something nice, please send it over! :) Some notes: * The page should be as simple as possible. It would be preferable to have light graphics (as in weight and brightness) as possible. * The current mock-up uses the Echo icons. Since Echo will not make it into FC6, we could use bluecurve ones for consistency. If someone can point me to the right images in bluecurve, I'll be glad to change them. * The graphics should be able to be somewhat consistent in various monitor resolutions. * Changing just the header of the mock-up will be great too. Comments, ideas, rants welcomed. :) -dim -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Sep 12 16:38:04 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:08:04 +0530 Subject: Tweaking the FC6 Theme In-Reply-To: <450646FF.30002@nicubunu.ro> References: <20060911160004.7631073383@hormel.redhat.com> <1158017565.3921.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4505F38B.8090905@fedoraproject.org> <4505FDBD.6050608@redhat.com> <450646FF.30002@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <4506E26C.7080101@fedoraproject.org> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Diana Fong wrote: >> Rahul wrote: >>> >>> It is claimed to be dark, satanic, gothic, death metal and futuristic >>> ;-) > > And this is supposed to be a bad thing? > I am summarizing what is being said in the distrowatch thread. Anything thats very distinctive is going to get loud positive *and* negative reactions. Thats what I saw in distrowatch and FC5 theme too. Personally I think FC6 theme with the slightly lighter shades that Diana did recently is better than the FC5 one but I liked the FC5 theme when it was newly done too. There was some criticisms that it was too bright for the background for some people who found that the icons didnt contrast well with it. We didnt have a wide screen version either. Both of these have been fixed now. For those who dont like the concept itself though, they just have to change their theme. Unfortunately RHGB themes are not easily changed and there is a bit of resistance in replacing it with some form of bootsplash. Early GDM login work is also currently stalled. We are working on a strategies to make things better. Watch the news. Rahul From jjmasek at gmail.com Tue Sep 12 16:40:49 2006 From: jjmasek at gmail.com (Jiri Jakub Masek) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:40:49 +0200 Subject: Tweaking the FC6 Theme In-Reply-To: <45068801.9000902@vip.hr> References: <20060911160004.7631073383@hormel.redhat.com> <1158017565.3921.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4505F38B.8090905@fedoraproject.org> <4505FDBD.6050608@redhat.com> <45068801.9000902@vip.hr> Message-ID: Hi, anything other, a FEDORA CORE 6 graphics set, experimental, based on ideas of DNA theme, sent to my web site on http://jjm.xf.cz , there is a link to download an archive file. JJM On 9/12/06, Igor Jagec wrote: > > Diana Fong wrote: > > > [1] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/default02.jpg > > [2] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/default02SM.jpg > > Even I prefer more lighter colors, that's much better work then > previous, thanks. > > -- > Igor Jagec > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- I'm still learning English... Ji?? Jakub Ma?ek - Jiri Jakub Masek Czech Republic, European Union -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dfong at redhat.com Tue Sep 12 16:58:06 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:58:06 -0400 Subject: Tweaking the FC6 Theme In-Reply-To: <45068801.9000902@vip.hr> References: <20060911160004.7631073383@hormel.redhat.com> <1158017565.3921.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4505F38B.8090905@fedoraproject.org> <4505FDBD.6050608@redhat.com> <45068801.9000902@vip.hr> Message-ID: <4506E71E.2020009@redhat.com> As per John's suggestion, I set up a page to enter modification suggestions.[1] I've included some mentioned in the past few days but might have missed a few...so take a look and see if there's additional fixes that should be looked at. I will be checking and posting to it periodically with fixes. Once again, please also let me know what works in addition to what didn't so I don't end up changing things that already look ok. Thanks Diana [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/FC6ThemeModifications Igor Jagec wrote: > Diana Fong wrote: > > >> [1] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/default02.jpg >> [2] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/default02SM.jpg >> > > Even I prefer more lighter colors, that's much better work then > previous, thanks. > > From stb52988 at gmail.com Tue Sep 12 22:22:29 2006 From: stb52988 at gmail.com (Steve Barnhart) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:22:29 -0400 Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> Message-ID: <15ce3ec0609121522t46b63382nf224d4ad4f92d642@mail.gmail.com> More branding, I like :). Seriously guys it looks nice and with DNA branding it will probably look even better. Nice work On 9/12/06, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > > Hi all. > > The Docs project is developing a new splash (default home-) page for the FC6 > browser, replacing the current one (basically, the release notes) with something > interesting and more useful. > > The current mock-up is the following: > > http://dimitris.glezos.com/box/foss/fc6-browser-splash/index-v01.html > > The wiki page with links to relevant content, and a zipped file of the above > mock-up, is: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/FirefoxDefaultSplash > > It would be nice to have a DNA-ish theme on this page. Especially the header > could be replaced. If someone from the artwork team could draw something nice, > please send it over! :) > > Some notes: > > * The page should be as simple as possible. It would be preferable to have > light graphics (as in weight and brightness) as possible. > > * The current mock-up uses the Echo icons. Since Echo will not make it into > FC6, we could use bluecurve ones for consistency. If someone can point me to the > right images in bluecurve, I'll be glad to change them. > > * The graphics should be able to be somewhat consistent in various monitor > resolutions. > > * Changing just the header of the mock-up will be great too. > > > Comments, ideas, rants welcomed. :) > > -dim > > > > -- > Dimitris Glezos > Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B > http://dimitris.glezos.com/ > > > "He who gives up functionality for ease of use > loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Steve From baerjj at gmail.com Wed Sep 13 00:53:55 2006 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 20:53:55 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core/Extras 6 CD/DVD Cover Submission Message-ID: <1158108835.2804.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> All, I submitted Fedora Core/Extras 6 CD/DVD cover art for your consideration. This submission is a jewel case insert or could be a CD/DVD sleeve. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/CDArtFC6 Just a couple of comments for your edification. I feel it is important to identify what fedora is to those who may be unfamiliar with open source products. Therefore I added the word "Linux" to the cover. In addition, I feel adding the Fedora project URL the cover added value as it invites a new user or prospective user to visit the site (Open source value of inclusion). The back cover contains the standard legal disclosure clause. If this effort becomes a jewel case insert, is there value to adding some marketing information to the inside of the fold? Cheers, John From stb52988 at gmail.com Wed Sep 13 01:32:46 2006 From: stb52988 at gmail.com (Steve Barnhart) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:32:46 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core/Extras 6 CD/DVD Cover Submission In-Reply-To: <1158108835.2804.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1158108835.2804.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <15ce3ec0609121832j1c074ff6q433aa2dbf1a70302@mail.gmail.com> oooo I like :). The two current submissions are very nice, but if I must choose, I like the first one (by Mairin Duffy) the best. On 9/12/06, John Baer wrote: > All, > > I submitted Fedora Core/Extras 6 CD/DVD cover art for your > consideration. This submission is a jewel case insert or could be a > CD/DVD sleeve. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/CDArtFC6 > > Just a couple of comments for your edification. I feel it is important > to identify what fedora is to those who may be unfamiliar with open > source products. Therefore I added the word "Linux" to the cover. In > addition, I feel adding the Fedora project URL the cover added value as > it invites a new user or prospective user to visit the site (Open source > value of inclusion). > > The back cover contains the standard legal disclosure clause. If this > effort becomes a jewel case insert, is there value to adding some > marketing information to the inside of the fold? > > Cheers, > > John > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Steve From jjmasek at gmail.com Wed Sep 13 05:22:00 2006 From: jjmasek at gmail.com (Jiri Jakub Masek) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 07:22:00 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core/Extras 6 CD/DVD Cover Submission In-Reply-To: <15ce3ec0609121832j1c074ff6q433aa2dbf1a70302@mail.gmail.com> References: <1158108835.2804.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> <15ce3ec0609121832j1c074ff6q433aa2dbf1a70302@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ......good work!.....JJM On 9/13/06, Steve Barnhart wrote: > > oooo I like :). The two current submissions are very nice, but if I > must choose, I like the first one (by Mairin Duffy) the best. > > On 9/12/06, John Baer wrote: > > All, > > > > I submitted Fedora Core/Extras 6 CD/DVD cover art for your > > consideration. This submission is a jewel case insert or could be a > > CD/DVD sleeve. > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/CDArtFC6 > > > > Just a couple of comments for your edification. I feel it is important > > to identify what fedora is to those who may be unfamiliar with open > > source products. Therefore I added the word "Linux" to the cover. In > > addition, I feel adding the Fedora project URL the cover added value as > > it invites a new user or prospective user to visit the site (Open source > > value of inclusion). > > > > The back cover contains the standard legal disclosure clause. If this > > effort becomes a jewel case insert, is there value to adding some > > marketing information to the inside of the fold? > > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > -- > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- I'm still learning English... Ji?? Jakub Ma?ek - Jiri Jakub Masek Czech Republic, European Union -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Therefore I added the word "Linux" to the cover. In > addition, I feel adding the Fedora project URL the cover added value as > it invites a new user or prospective user to visit the site (Open source > value of inclusion). How about trying a more discrete form for the "Linux" word? Like makeing it larger but more faded. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Sep 13 05:34:03 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 08:34:03 +0300 Subject: Tweaking the FC6 Theme In-Reply-To: <4506E26C.7080101@fedoraproject.org> References: <20060911160004.7631073383@hormel.redhat.com> <1158017565.3921.33.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4505F38B.8090905@fedoraproject.org> <4505FDBD.6050608@redhat.com> <450646FF.30002@nicubunu.ro> <4506E26C.7080101@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4507984B.6070806@nicubunu.ro> Rahul wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: >>> Rahul wrote: >>>> It is claimed to be dark, satanic, gothic, death metal and >>>> futuristic ;-) >> >> And this is supposed to be a bad thing? > > I am summarizing what is being said in the distrowatch thread. Anything > thats very distinctive is going to get loud positive *and* negative > reactions. Thats what I saw in distrowatch and FC5 theme too. What I am trying to say: don't be afraid of some controversy, it may help Fedora making the front page of news sites and blogs. It shows people care. And in simply impossible to please everyone. Remember, the popular wisdom says there is no such thing as bad publicity. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From onuorah_ifeoma at yahoo.com Wed Sep 13 04:50:37 2006 From: onuorah_ifeoma at yahoo.com (Ifeoma Onuorah) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fedora Core/Extras 6 CD/DVD Cover Submission In-Reply-To: <15ce3ec0609121832j1c074ff6q433aa2dbf1a70302@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060913045037.13753.qmail@web35702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Both of the CD jackets are very nice.. the two styles are very good.. I would do some combination of the two.. I like Mairin's Cover.. but could the spine from the second version be adapted into Mairin's version? And maybe some sort of design on it. I don't know if that would make it too busy. I also like the gradient in the first version.. but I kind of like the color used in the second version a little better. But all in all very good job to both artist! :) -Ify --- Steve Barnhart wrote: > oooo I like :). The two current submissions are very > nice, but if I > must choose, I like the first one (by Mairin Duffy) > the best. > > On 9/12/06, John Baer wrote: > > All, > > > > I submitted Fedora Core/Extras 6 CD/DVD cover art > for your > > consideration. This submission is a jewel case > insert or could be a > > CD/DVD sleeve. > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/CDArtFC6 > > > > Just a couple of comments for your edification. I > feel it is important > > to identify what fedora is to those who may be > unfamiliar with open > > source products. Therefore I added the word > "Linux" to the cover. In > > addition, I feel adding the Fedora project URL the > cover added value as > > it invites a new user or prospective user to visit > the site (Open source > > value of inclusion). > > > > The back cover contains the standard legal > disclosure clause. If this > > effort becomes a jewel case insert, is there value > to adding some > > marketing information to the inside of the fold? > > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > -- > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Sep 13 06:02:32 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:02:32 +0300 Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> Message-ID: <45079EF8.4060008@nicubunu.ro> Dimitris Glezos wrote: > Hi all. > > The Docs project is developing a new splash (default home-) page for the FC6 > browser, replacing the current one (basically, the release notes) with something > interesting and more useful. > > The current mock-up is the following: > > http://dimitris.glezos.com/box/foss/fc6-browser-splash/index-v01.html "?????? 404" - fortunately the tar.gz linked from the wiki works. > It would be nice to have a DNA-ish theme on this page. Especially the header > could be replaced. If someone from the artwork team could draw something nice, > please send it over! :) How about using this header? (it is used in anaconda) http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/fc6anaconda_header.png Align it to left, put a dark blue background under it and maybe make the png fade to transparency on the right edge, to seamlessly blend with the background. > Some notes: > > * The page should be as simple as possible. It would be preferable to have > light graphics (as in weight and brightness) as possible. You can't have it both ways, DNA theme is dark, so a header with the DNA theme have to be dark. But is good contrast to have a bright page and a dark header. > * The current mock-up uses the Echo icons. Since Echo will not make it into > FC6, we could use bluecurve ones for consistency. If someone can point me to the > right images in bluecurve, I'll be glad to change them. You are using very few icons so probably the consistency is not damaged that much. The Bluecurve icons are located in /usr/share/icons/Bluecurve/24x24/ For example you are using "edit-redo" for external link icon, which is stock/stock-redo.png in Bluecurve > * The graphics should be able to be somewhat consistent in various monitor > resolutions. I think a 800px wide header left aligned and blending in the background should be fine. > * Changing just the header of the mock-up will be great too. I would use a darker blue for "title" class ("Fedora documentation" and "Other resources") and use the same color as the h3 with "Community websites". Also, I don't like very much red as the color for *unvisited* links and would use dark blue instead. Not last, the page lack a footer. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Wed Sep 13 06:45:57 2006 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 08:45:57 +0200 Subject: Fedora Core/Extras 6 CD/DVD Cover Submission In-Reply-To: <1158108835.2804.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1158108835.2804.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1158129957.2795.1.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Hi all, Please do not forget to work on the CD label too, jacket is nice but label will stay with the CD and have the greatest impact. I know the constraints of printing on a CD?DVD make it much harder Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The main constraints are on the color use, as factory DVD printing is not the same at all as home inkjet paper-label printing. Mostly, the more colours you use, the more expensive it gets. -- Nicolas Mailhot From stickster at gmail.com Wed Sep 13 17:43:36 2006 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:43:36 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core/Extras 6 CD/DVD Cover Submission In-Reply-To: <1158108835.2804.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1158108835.2804.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1158169416.13917.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 20:53 -0400, John Baer wrote: > I submitted Fedora Core/Extras 6 CD/DVD cover art for your > consideration. This submission is a jewel case insert or could be a > CD/DVD sleeve. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/CDArtFC6 [...snip...] The legal disclaimer also needs to include information about the word "Linux" being a trademark: "Linux is a trademark of Linux Torvalds." I'm not sure putting Linux on the cover is all that useful -- the people who will pick up the CD will usually get them at a Linux-oriented event, or from a friend who tells them what it is. I think it would be more useful to have the main URL for the Project printed on the back in a prominent way: http://fedoraproject.org/ Just a thought. -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project Board: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board Fedora Docs Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The Red Hat Graphical Boot image seems a little out of place. I would add some blending ... Last, it would be nice to add something to the login screen. Perhaps some minor changes to the background image. I use Gnome so I am unaware of the KDE effort required. Will a KDE user offer comments? In addition, I am unaware of any XFCE artwork requirements. All-in-all I believe folks will be pleased. Cheers, John From baerjj at gmail.com Wed Sep 13 19:54:19 2006 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:54:19 -0400 Subject: Fedora Core/Extras 6 CD/DVD Cover Update Message-ID: <1158177259.3204.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> All, Thanks for the comments on the FC6 cover art. I made the changes suggested and updated the wiki. In addition I put together a CD/DVD imprint image for your consideration. Cheers, John From charles.vinchon at fedoraproject.org Thu Sep 14 07:58:14 2006 From: charles.vinchon at fedoraproject.org (Charles VINCHON) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 09:58:14 +0200 Subject: FC6 disk artworks Message-ID: <1158220695.2517.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi all, Please find here the last version of my work (based on the first DNA background) http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/tray-ppc.png http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/labels/cd1.png http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/labels/cd2.png http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/labels/cd3.png http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/labels/cd4.png http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/labels/cd5.png http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/labels/dvd.png http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/jackets/jacket-64bit.png http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/jackets/jacket-x86.png http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/jackets/jacket-ppc.png http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/inserts/insert-external-64bit.png http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/inserts/insert-external-ppc.svg http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/inserts/insert-internal-ppc.png http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/inserts/insert-external-64bit.svg http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/inserts/insert-external-x86.png http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/inserts/insert-internal-ppc.svg http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/inserts/insert-external-ppc.png http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/inserts/insert-external-x86.svg Could some one link them on the wiki (I have difficulties with it)? Tell me if there is mistakes. Thanks in advance Charles -- Charles Vinchon French Fedora Ambassador Lille, France (GMT+2 - CEST) http://fedoraproject.org/Wiki/CharlesVinchon mailto:charles.vinchon at fedoraproject.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From baerjj at gmail.com Thu Sep 14 13:13:58 2006 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 09:13:58 -0400 Subject: FC6 Splash Screen Brain Dump Message-ID: <484ace5d0609140613x2a01edddv3a5f0f20013c8e4a@mail.gmail.com> Diana, I am struggling with a solution on the 16 color splash screens. I posted some ideas which do display reasonably well at 16 color at this wiki page. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JohnBaerFC6Splash A part of me says if the glassy theme will not reproduce at 16 colors then something completely different should be presented. 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I didn't even change any of the XML for my dialog; I simply built the graphic around the current XML positioning. -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project Board: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board Fedora Docs Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In the spirit of having a little fun I used a some poetic license with the logo. :) One may see it as a balloon or a travel tag but either way we are on our way with Fedora Core 6 (lol)! I acknowledge this image does not adhere to the DNA theme but I was unable to reproduce an image of the quality I would prefer using this theme. :( IMHO a high quality image is the most important consideration. I am unaware of the policy of email attachments sent to the list server so I will email you separately the svg files. Cheers, John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I remembered the Ubuntu folks struggled with this as they developed their usplash product and their solution was to crop the image to 640x400. With that in mind I created a 640x400 image which blends the default black background color at the bottom. At this point I have stared at this too long and can't see the best choice. In addition, Jiri made a nice improvement to my 640x480 image and I posted it the whiteboard. Thank you Jiri for your help, I like it! I posted all of the svg's in an archive to this URL. http://www.uthando.net/Fedora/Art_Proposals/ Cheers, John From baerjj at gmail.com Sat Sep 16 14:48:57 2006 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:48:57 -0400 Subject: Current Status Message-ID: <1158418137.2804.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> Diana, I realize you are very busy but do you have a moment to update us on what changes are in progress. Having used test 3 since last Wednesday, I discovered a hidden value. The more I use it the better I like it (lol)! I believe acceptance by the community will be positive. Cheers, John From traxtopel at fastmail.fm Sun Sep 17 10:02:05 2006 From: traxtopel at fastmail.fm (Grant Williamson) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 12:02:05 +0200 Subject: Fedora artwork Message-ID: <450D1D1D.8020809@fastmail.fm> Hi, from the latest Fedora devel artwork, are the source images, i.e. in form of layers available, where I could replace the logos etc with something else. Thanks, Grant. From dimitris at glezos.com Mon Sep 18 02:09:27 2006 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 03:09:27 +0100 Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> Message-ID: <450DFFD7.90707@glezos.com> Quoting from fedora-docs-list: > ## Theme > > The artwork team did not respond to my request for a better theme > than the current one, so I prepared some themes myself. I tried my > best, given the time I had. I packed their screenshots in a tgz here: > > http://dimitris.glezos.com/box/foss/fc6-browser-splash-shots.tar.gz > > I prefer v3b (current live version) and v3d. The DNA theme might be > nice, but I prefer the first one because it is more pleasant. I'll > send an email to the artwork list for opinions. -dim O/H Dimitris Glezos ??????: > Hi all. > > The Docs project is developing a new splash (default home-) page for the FC6 > browser, replacing the current one (basically, the release notes) with something > interesting and more useful. > > The current mock-up is the following: > > http://dimitris.glezos.com/box/foss/fc6-browser-splash/ > > The wiki page with links to relevant content, and a zipped file of the above > mock-up, is: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/FirefoxDefaultSplash > > It would be nice to have a DNA-ish theme on this page. Especially the header > could be replaced. If someone from the artwork team could draw something nice, > please send it over! :) > > Some notes: > > * The page should be as simple as possible. It would be preferable to have > light graphics (as in weight and brightness) as possible. > > * The current mock-up uses the Echo icons. Since Echo will not make it into > FC6, we could use bluecurve ones for consistency. If someone can point me to the > right images in bluecurve, I'll be glad to change them. > > * The graphics should be able to be somewhat consistent in various monitor > resolutions. > > * Changing just the header of the mock-up will be great too. > > > Comments, ideas, rants welcomed. :) > > -dim > > > -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, PGP: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Sep 18 08:21:07 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:51:07 +0530 Subject: Murrine GTK2 Cairo Engine Message-ID: <450E56F3.7050609@fedoraproject.org> Hi Call for packaging http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=124075 Rahul From duffy at redhat.com Mon Sep 18 14:10:58 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:10:58 -0400 Subject: Fedora artwork In-Reply-To: <450D1D1D.8020809@fastmail.fm> References: <450D1D1D.8020809@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <450EA8F2.1040905@redhat.com> Hi Grant, Grant Williamson wrote: > from the latest Fedora devel artwork, are the source images, i.e. in > form of layers available, where I could replace the logos etc with > something else. Diana and Mola should be able to help you out. I believe Mola did the 3d rendering in Blender. I too agree it would be nice for the source images to be made available. ~m From duffy at redhat.com Mon Sep 18 14:09:47 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:09:47 -0400 Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: <450DFFD7.90707@glezos.com> References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> <450DFFD7.90707@glezos.com> Message-ID: <450EA8AB.1070001@redhat.com> Hi Dimitris, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > > Quoting from fedora-docs-list: > >> ## Theme >> >> The artwork team did not respond to my request for a better theme >> than the current one, so I prepared some themes myself. I apologize that the art team did not step up; we are a pretty new team at this point and a lot of stuff is unsettled so hopefully next time we'll be a bit more organized. >> I tried my >> best, given the time I had. I packed their screenshots in a tgz here: >> >> http://dimitris.glezos.com/box/foss/fc6-browser-splash-shots.tar.gz >> >> I prefer v3b (current live version) and v3d. The DNA theme might be >> nice, but I prefer the first one because it is more pleasant. I'll >> send an email to the artwork list for opinions. v3b looks slick. v3d kind of matches the style of the DNA theme a bit more though (I haven't seen any stripes as in v3b in it) but I think it could look a bit better with a bit less blur. My attempt attached (it's got a bit less blurring going on - it basically just has a drop shadow type thing for the blue bar up top.) ~m -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This is why at the time I replied and suggested only some tweaks. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From duffy at redhat.com Mon Sep 18 14:25:36 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:25:36 -0400 Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: <450EA8AB.1070001@redhat.com> References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> <450DFFD7.90707@glezos.com> <450EA8AB.1070001@redhat.com> Message-ID: <450EAC60.6080800@redhat.com> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi Dimitris, > > Dimitris Glezos wrote: >> >> Quoting from fedora-docs-list: >> >>> ## Theme >>> >>> The artwork team did not respond to my request for a better theme >>> than the current one, so I prepared some themes myself. Gah, I forgot to mention - you might want to cut the white outline that is around the Fedora logomark - it's not allowed for in the Fedora brand guidelines. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Sep 18 14:36:19 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:36:19 +0300 Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: <450EAC60.6080800@redhat.com> References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> <450DFFD7.90707@glezos.com> <450EA8AB.1070001@redhat.com> <450EAC60.6080800@redhat.com> Message-ID: <450EAEE3.20300@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Gah, I forgot to mention - you might want to cut the white outline that > is around the Fedora logomark - it's not allowed for in the Fedora brand > guidelines. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines Indeed, the guidelines say so, but the contrast for the bubble is not that good: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=logodarkbg.png And if the background is dark blue instead of dark gray, is even worse. Can we think about improving the guidelines for such cases? Just an idea: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/logo/wordmark_inverted.svg -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From stickster at gmail.com Mon Sep 18 16:11:07 2006 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:11:07 +0000 Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: <450EAEE3.20300@nicubunu.ro> References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> <450DFFD7.90707@glezos.com> <450EA8AB.1070001@redhat.com> <450EAC60.6080800@redhat.com> <450EAEE3.20300@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1158595867.3272.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 17:36 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > > > Gah, I forgot to mention - you might want to cut the white outline that > > is around the Fedora logomark - it's not allowed for in the Fedora brand > > guidelines. > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines > > Indeed, the guidelines say so, but the contrast for the bubble is not > that good: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=logodarkbg.png > > And if the background is dark blue instead of dark gray, is even worse. > Can we think about improving the guidelines for such cases? > Just an idea: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/logo/wordmark_inverted.svg Good idea, but the color change changes the whole 'eye feel' of the logo. I think it would be preferable to simply allow a white border within a certain size limit when the logomark is placed on a dark background, so it can match the white logotext a little better while keeping its distinct look. -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project Board: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board Fedora Docs Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Frields wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 17:36 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > > > > > Gah, I forgot to mention - you might want to cut the white outline > that > > > is around the Fedora logomark - it's not allowed for in the Fedora > brand > > > guidelines. > > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines > > > > Indeed, the guidelines say so, but the contrast for the bubble is not > > that good: > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=logodarkbg.png > > > > And if the background is dark blue instead of dark gray, is even worse. > > Can we think about improving the guidelines for such cases? > > Just an idea: > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/logo/wordmark_inverted.svg > > Good idea, but the color change changes the whole 'eye feel' of the > logo. I think it would be preferable to simply allow a white border > within a certain size limit when the logomark is placed on a dark > background, so it can match the white logotext a little better while > keeping its distinct look. > > -- > Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > Fedora Project Board: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board > Fedora Docs Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > -- I'm still learning English... Ji?? Jakub Ma?ek - Jiri Jakub Masek Czech Republic, European Union -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dfong at redhat.com Tue Sep 19 03:33:00 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 23:33:00 -0400 Subject: Fedora artwork In-Reply-To: <450D1D1D.8020809@fastmail.fm> References: <450D1D1D.8020809@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <450F64EC.7030608@redhat.com> Grant Williamson wrote: > Hi, > from the latest Fedora devel artwork, are the source images, i.e. in > form of layers available, where I could replace the logos etc with > something else. > > Thanks, > Grant. Hello Grant + anyone else interested... I've just uploaded the source files for FC6's DNA artwork...Mola's 3D model [1] and my layered file [2] (28.3M). I will also upload a .xfc (GIMP) version of the layered file tomorrow. Diana [1] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/FC6_3DNA.blend [2] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/FC6DNA.psd From traxtopel at fastmail.fm Tue Sep 19 05:53:18 2006 From: traxtopel at fastmail.fm (Grant Williamson) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 07:53:18 +0200 Subject: Fedora artwork In-Reply-To: <450F64EC.7030608@redhat.com> References: <450D1D1D.8020809@fastmail.fm> <450F64EC.7030608@redhat.com> Message-ID: <450F85CE.8040702@fastmail.fm> Thanks Diana, the xfc files will be much appreciated. Diana Fong wrote: > Grant Williamson wrote: >> Hi, >> from the latest Fedora devel artwork, are the source images, i.e. in >> form of layers available, where I could replace the logos etc with >> something else. >> >> Thanks, >> Grant. > > Hello Grant + anyone else interested... > > I've just uploaded the source files for FC6's DNA artwork...Mola's 3D > model [1] and my layered file [2] (28.3M). I will also upload a .xfc > (GIMP) version of the layered file tomorrow. > Diana > > [1] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/FC6_3DNA.blend > [2] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/FC6DNA.psd > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Sep 19 06:33:30 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:33:30 +0300 Subject: Fedora artwork In-Reply-To: <450F64EC.7030608@redhat.com> References: <450D1D1D.8020809@fastmail.fm> <450F64EC.7030608@redhat.com> Message-ID: <450F8F3A.8050101@nicubunu.ro> Diana Fong wrote: > > I've just uploaded the source files for FC6's DNA artwork...Mola's 3D > model [1] and my layered file [2] (28.3M). I will also upload a .xfc > (GIMP) version of the layered file tomorrow. > Diana > > [2] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/FC6DNA.psd GIMP 2.2 from FC5 will open the .psd just fine. A better thing to do would be to upload a zipped version of the .psd instead, it is 11.6M compared with 28.3M (of course, converting to .xcf and zipping the result in 9.2MB, but this is really nitpicking). -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Sep 19 06:37:04 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:37:04 +0300 Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> <450DFFD7.90707@glezos.com> <450EA8AB.1070001@redhat.com> <450EAC60.6080800@redhat.com> <450EAEE3.20300@nicubunu.ro> <1158595867.3272.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <450F9010.9040306@nicubunu.ro> Jiri Jakub Masek wrote: > Hi, .....and what about to place logo in a white filled polygon as a > graphics element? I named it a stamp, maybe a label. This could bring to > graphics designs more of variability and the logo independent styles. Honestly, I don't like the the stamp idea, having a whole white rectangle would make the image unbalanced and distract attention to it, it may limit your creative freedom, sometimes you want a discrete logo. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Tue Sep 19 10:56:50 2006 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:56:50 +0200 (CEST) Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: <450F9010.9040306@nicubunu.ro> References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> <450DFFD7.90707@glezos.com> <450EA8AB.1070001@redhat.com> <450EAC60.6080800@redhat.com> <450EAEE3.20300@nicubunu.ro> <1158595867.3272.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <450F9010.9040306@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <43592.192.54.193.51.1158663410.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Mar 19 septembre 2006 08:37, Nicu Buculei a ?crit : > Jiri Jakub Masek wrote: >> Hi, .....and what about to place logo in a white filled polygon as a >> graphics element? I named it a stamp, maybe a label. This could bring to >> graphics designs more of variability and the logo independent styles. > > Honestly, I don't like the the stamp idea, having a whole white > rectangle would make the image unbalanced and distract attention to it, > it may limit your creative freedom, sometimes you want a discrete logo. What I've seen done before in those cases is to define a large white fringe around the org logo with some sort of fading to transparency on the exterior border. The overal white fringe shape must be simple and derived from the core logo to make clear it's not part of it. Plain rectangular is generally a bad idea as it looks like someone cut & pasted a logo without bothering to change the background colour. -- Nicolas Mailhot From duffy at redhat.com Tue Sep 19 13:38:10 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:38:10 -0400 Subject: Fedora artwork In-Reply-To: <450F85CE.8040702@fastmail.fm> References: <450D1D1D.8020809@fastmail.fm> <450F64EC.7030608@redhat.com> <450F85CE.8040702@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <450FF2C2.2060606@redhat.com> Hi Grant, Grant Williamson wrote: > the xfc files will be much appreciated. Just so you know, the GIMP will open PSD files without much of an issue so if you want to go ahead and work with them you can. They need not be XCF (not XFC). ~m From duffy at redhat.com Tue Sep 19 13:42:15 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:42:15 -0400 Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: <450F9010.9040306@nicubunu.ro> References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> <450DFFD7.90707@glezos.com> <450EA8AB.1070001@redhat.com> <450EAC60.6080800@redhat.com> <450EAEE3.20300@nicubunu.ro> <1158595867.3272.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <450F9010.9040306@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <450FF3B7.90601@redhat.com> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Jiri Jakub Masek wrote: >> Hi, .....and what about to place logo in a white filled polygon as a >> graphics element? I named it a stamp, maybe a label. This could bring >> to graphics designs more of variability and the logo independent styles. > > Honestly, I don't like the the stamp idea, having a whole white > rectangle would make the image unbalanced and distract attention to it, > it may limit your creative freedom, sometimes you want a discrete logo. So I'm not really sure how much leeway we have with the logo guidelines at all. Since it's still intellectually the property of Red Hat and by using it we are bound to the guidelines we agreed to when we received the files, we really can't change the guidelines. I know that the logo really has terrible contrast when against say a 50% grey background, but I think all we can do is make the background darker, try dark gradient effects, etc. What I can do is try to find the correct person at Red Hat to whom we can send a proposal explaining the weaknesses of the guidelines and how we'd like to change the guidelines. What do you think about trying that? ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Sep 19 14:26:46 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:26:46 +0300 Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: <450FF3B7.90601@redhat.com> References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> <450DFFD7.90707@glezos.com> <450EA8AB.1070001@redhat.com> <450EAC60.6080800@redhat.com> <450EAEE3.20300@nicubunu.ro> <1158595867.3272.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <450F9010.9040306@nicubunu.ro> <450FF3B7.90601@redhat.com> Message-ID: <450FFE26.1050401@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > So I'm not really sure how much leeway we have with the logo guidelines > at all. Since it's still intellectually the property of Red Hat and by > using it we are bound to the guidelines we agreed to when we received > the files, we really can't change the guidelines. > > I know that the logo really has terrible contrast when against say a 50% > grey background, but I think all we can do is make the background > darker, try dark gradient effects, etc. > > What I can do is try to find the correct person at Red Hat to whom we > can send a proposal explaining the weaknesses of the guidelines and how > we'd like to change the guidelines. What do you think about trying that? Indeed, like a bug report with the 50% grey background image as a test case but without using Bugzilla. We can try it, if we get WONTFIX as an answer, get over it and accept the constraint. And using the Bugzilla terminology, the severity is not very high. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From dimitris at glezos.com Tue Sep 19 14:31:13 2006 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:31:13 +0100 Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: <450FF3B7.90601@redhat.com> References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> <450DFFD7.90707@glezos.com> <450EA8AB.1070001@redhat.com> <450EAC60.6080800@redhat.com> <450EAEE3.20300@nicubunu.ro> <1158595867.3272.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <450F9010.9040306@nicubunu.ro> <450FF3B7.90601@redhat.com> Message-ID: <450FFF31.8000600@glezos.com> O/H M?ir?n Duffy ??????: > So I'm not really sure how much leeway we have with the logo guidelines > at all. Since it's still intellectually the property of Red Hat and by > using it we are bound to the guidelines we agreed to when we received > the files, we really can't change the guidelines. I think the logo is just fine. Guidelines should be for keeping things under control, not stifling innovation. Besides, things aren't just black and white, it's not like either you follow or break the rules. The only thing that diverges from the guidelines is the white outline of the circle. I would be really disappointed of someone jumped out and argued that those rules are 100% rigid, even for inside-Fedora projects. Instead of this, I would prefer something like "So, fedora-artwork concluded that the current guidelines don't contrast well with dark backgrounds. Since this logo is a fedora-artwork approved solution, we'll incorporate this into the guidelines". Concerning the theme decision: I asked a few people, most of them preferred the original suggestions: v3b and v3e (M?ir?n Duffy's better version of v3d). I think the best thing to do is to keep the light theme (v3b), since it goes better with the internet's white background, and try putting a DNA-dark footer. -dim > I know that the logo really has terrible contrast when against say a 50% > grey background, but I think all we can do is make the background > darker, try dark gradient effects, etc. > > What I can do is try to find the correct person at Red Hat to whom we > can send a proposal explaining the weaknesses of the guidelines and how > we'd like to change the guidelines. What do you think about trying that? > > ~m -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From duffy at redhat.com Tue Sep 19 14:45:06 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:45:06 -0400 Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: <450FFF31.8000600@glezos.com> References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> <450DFFD7.90707@glezos.com> <450EA8AB.1070001@redhat.com> <450EAC60.6080800@redhat.com> <450EAEE3.20300@nicubunu.ro> <1158595867.3272.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <450F9010.9040306@nicubunu.ro> <450FF3B7.90601@redhat.com> <450FFF31.8000600@glezos.com> Message-ID: <45100272.8000608@redhat.com> Dimitris Glezos wrote: > O/H M?ir?n Duffy ??????: >> So I'm not really sure how much leeway we have with the logo guidelines >> at all. Since it's still intellectually the property of Red Hat and by >> using it we are bound to the guidelines we agreed to when we received >> the files, we really can't change the guidelines. > > I think the logo is just fine. Guidelines should be for keeping things under > control, not stifling innovation. Right, but guidelines are also for making sure that the logo, including the logotype and logomark, are defensible as trademarked. See, the logo was trademarked as described in the guidelines, so if we start using it outside those guidelines we risk losing the trademark which right now Red Hat would like to protect. This is why we require that every person who would like to use the logo artwork requests it from logo at fedoraproject.org, stating what they'd like to use it for, and agreeing to those guidelines. When you make modifications such as the white outline, you are changing the logo (1) against the guidelines, (2) significantly enough that someone could decide to use that version of the logo and threaten the trademark on the logo such that it is indefensible. That's why the logo guidelines exist. I understand this sounds stupid (and I think most if not all of the intersections of law and art are stupid) but that is the way things are so we have to deal with it in order to protect our logo. So, I strongly recommend removing the white outline on the Fedora logomark. > Besides, things aren't just black and white, it's not like either you follow or > break the rules. The only thing that diverges from the guidelines is the white > outline of the circle. Right, so would you be willing to consider removing it? The white outline is the only thing I am concerned about. > I would be really disappointed of someone jumped out and argued that those rules > are 100% rigid, even for inside-Fedora projects. That it is an inside-Fedora project exacerbates the problem, since it seems the logo variation has been officially sanctioned (which it has not) and others may use it. > Instead of this, I would prefer > something like "So, fedora-artwork concluded that the current guidelines don't > contrast well with dark backgrounds. Since this logo is a fedora-artwork > approved solution, we'll incorporate this into the guidelines". I would not say that the white outline is a fedora-artwork approved solution at this point. I think this is still under discussion. I can try to contact people within Red Hat to see if the white outline variation is OK or not, but I think it would be far easier to just remove it. ~m From jjmasek at gmail.com Tue Sep 19 14:48:57 2006 From: jjmasek at gmail.com (Jiri Jakub Masek) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:48:57 +0200 Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: <450FF3B7.90601@redhat.com> References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> <450DFFD7.90707@glezos.com> <450EA8AB.1070001@redhat.com> <450EAC60.6080800@redhat.com> <450EAEE3.20300@nicubunu.ro> <1158595867.3272.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <450F9010.9040306@nicubunu.ro> <450FF3B7.90601@redhat.com> Message-ID: Hi M?ir?n, good idea, try it. I proposed the idea of *stamp* because I think that it's easy way to embed FEDORA trade mark as is to graphics design.... JJM On 9/19/06, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Nicu Buculei wrote: > > Jiri Jakub Masek wrote: > >> Hi, .....and what about to place logo in a white filled polygon as a > >> graphics element? I named it a stamp, maybe a label. This could bring > >> to graphics designs more of variability and the logo independent > styles. > > > > Honestly, I don't like the the stamp idea, having a whole white > > rectangle would make the image unbalanced and distract attention to it, > > it may limit your creative freedom, sometimes you want a discrete logo. > > So I'm not really sure how much leeway we have with the logo guidelines > at all. Since it's still intellectually the property of Red Hat and by > using it we are bound to the guidelines we agreed to when we received > the files, we really can't change the guidelines. > > I know that the logo really has terrible contrast when against say a 50% > grey background, but I think all we can do is make the background > darker, try dark gradient effects, etc. > > What I can do is try to find the correct person at Red Hat to whom we > can send a proposal explaining the weaknesses of the guidelines and how > we'd like to change the guidelines. What do you think about trying that? > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- I'm still learning English... Ji?? Jakub Ma?ek - Jiri Jakub Masek Czech Republic, European Union -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dfong at redhat.com Tue Sep 19 14:56:42 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:56:42 -0400 Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: <450EAC1F.8040909@nicubunu.ro> References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> <450DFFD7.90707@glezos.com> <450EA8AB.1070001@redhat.com> <450EAC1F.8040909@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <4510052A.5010204@redhat.com> Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> >> Dimitris Glezos wrote: >>>> >>>> The artwork team did not respond to my request for a better theme >>>> than the current one, so I prepared some themes myself. >> >> I apologize that the art team did not step up; we are a pretty new >> team at this point and a lot of stuff is unsettled so hopefully next >> time we'll be a bit more organized. > > There is also the possibility we found the initial proposal pretty > good. This is why at the time I replied and suggested only some tweaks. > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Gah, I forgot to mention - you might want to cut the white outline > that is around the Fedora logomark - it's not allowed for in the > Fedora brand guidelines. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines Hi Dimitris, I also found the initial proposal along with Nicu's suggestions to be pretty good. It was clean and simple. I hesitate to theme the site based on the release graphics because I wasn't sure if you would want to change it with each release. However, if it is not a problem then...I prefer v3a and v3d (though in v3d, the logo should probably go on the left and the rest of the helix image moved to the right as in your first 3 examples). I don't have a problem with the white border around the fedora symbol and can't find where it is mentioned as "not allowed for in the Fedora brand guidelines." Though, as Nicu pointed me to, the "Reverse Logotype Color to White" section...but to me that just reads that the font should be changed and the lack of contrast in the logomark was not addressed. I believe that as long as the white border is within a certain aesthetic size to help separate the logomark from the background and not distract/detract from it, it should be acceptable. My approach to the problem within the FC6 anaconda_header was to apply a little black gradient (which also blended in with the blue back color) behind the symbol are to give it a bit more contrast. If you decide to go with the FC6 header, perhaps you could try that. Another suggestion for your mockups with the logo is to put the "TM" towards the bottom of the "a" rather than the top. It will makes the logo seem less cluttered in that corner...where the "a" and the symbol meet. Diana From duffy at redhat.com Tue Sep 19 15:01:00 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:01:00 -0400 Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: <4510052A.5010204@redhat.com> References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> <450DFFD7.90707@glezos.com> <450EA8AB.1070001@redhat.com> <450EAC1F.8040909@nicubunu.ro> <4510052A.5010204@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4510062C.50303@redhat.com> Diana Fong wrote: > I don't have a problem with the white border around the fedora symbol > and can't find where it is mentioned as "not allowed for in the Fedora > brand guidelines." I believe it is covered in the clear space section. The white is an additional element that does not follow the clear space guidelines. I have seen many logo guidelines and brandbooks, and in my experience outlines around a logomark are not usually kosher without explicitly being mentioned as OK to use. > Though, as Nicu pointed me to, the "Reverse Logotype > Color to White" section...but to me that just reads that the font should > be changed and the lack of contrast in the logomark was not addressed. Then it's a flaw in the guidelines and that should be fixed first. ~m From dfong at redhat.com Tue Sep 19 15:12:59 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:12:59 -0400 Subject: Fedora artwork In-Reply-To: <450F8F3A.8050101@nicubunu.ro> References: <450D1D1D.8020809@fastmail.fm> <450F64EC.7030608@redhat.com> <450F8F3A.8050101@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <451008FB.6090400@redhat.com> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Diana Fong wrote: >> >> I've just uploaded the source files for FC6's DNA artwork...Mola's 3D >> model [1] and my layered file [2] (28.3M). I will also upload a .xfc >> (GIMP) version of the layered file tomorrow. >> Diana >> >> [2] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/FC6DNA.psd > > GIMP 2.2 from FC5 will open the .psd just fine. > A better thing to do would be to upload a zipped version of the .psd > instead, it is 11.6M compared with 28.3M (of course, converting to > .xcf and zipping the result in 9.2MB, but this is really nitpicking). > Good idea...here we go...zipped. I also noticed that when opened in the GIMP, the graphics was a bit darker...maybe one of the adjustment layers didn't convert properly. Maybe someone can play around with the settings? .psd http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/FC6DNA.psd.tar.bz2 .xcf http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/FC6DNA.xcf.tar.bz2 Diana From duffy at redhat.com Tue Sep 19 15:28:56 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:28:56 -0400 Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: <4510052A.5010204@redhat.com> References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> <450DFFD7.90707@glezos.com> <450EA8AB.1070001@redhat.com> <450EAC1F.8040909@nicubunu.ro> <4510052A.5010204@redhat.com> Message-ID: <45100CB8.3060306@redhat.com> Hi Dimitris, Diana Fong wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Gah, I forgot to mention - you might want to cut the white outline >> that is around the Fedora logomark - it's not allowed for in the >> Fedora brand guidelines. >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines > I don't have a problem with the white border around the fedora symbol > and can't find where it is mentioned as "not allowed for in the Fedora > brand guidelines." Though, as Nicu pointed me to, the "Reverse Logotype > Color to White" section...but to me that just reads that the font should > be changed and the lack of contrast in the logomark was not addressed. > I believe that as long as the white border is within a certain aesthetic > size to help separate the logomark from the background and not > distract/detract from it, it should be acceptable. I have just asked for guidance about the white outline from the folks who put the logo guidelines together and filed the trademark, so if you would be so willing, could you wait until I hear back from them? Thanks++, ~m From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Tue Sep 19 16:02:34 2006 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:02:34 +0200 (CEST) Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: <45100272.8000608@redhat.com> References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> <450DFFD7.90707@glezos.com> <450EA8AB.1070001@redhat.com> <450EAC60.6080800@redhat.com> <450EAEE3.20300@nicubunu.ro> <1158595867.3272.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <450F9010.9040306@nicubunu.ro> <450FF3B7.90601@redhat.com> <450FFF31.8000600@glezos.com> <45100272.8000608@redhat.com> Message-ID: <51499.192.54.193.51.1158681754.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Mar 19 septembre 2006 16:45, M?ir?n Duffy a ?crit : > I can try to contact people within Red Hat to see if the white outline > variation is OK or not, but I think it would be far easier to just > remove it. When my corp did its last logo change (like every 15 years or so) they provided and official white outline variation for this problem. The reasonning being that white outline was the least intrusive change, and letting people tweak colours or create outline variations on their own was way worse. They also have official monochrome (main dark colour with density changes), grey level, black on white, white on transparency variants. When putting the logo over a photograph or other problem background - normal with white outline is used in a signature context (placement on the photograph is fixed) - otherwise white over transparency is preffered No idea how much of this could apply to Fedora Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot From duffy at redhat.com Tue Sep 19 16:10:44 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:10:44 -0400 Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: <51499.192.54.193.51.1158681754.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> <450DFFD7.90707@glezos.com> <450EA8AB.1070001@redhat.com> <450EAC60.6080800@redhat.com> <450EAEE3.20300@nicubunu.ro> <1158595867.3272.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <450F9010.9040306@nicubunu.ro> <450FF3B7.90601@redhat.com> <450FFF31.8000600@glezos.com> <45100272.8000608@redhat.com> <51499.192.54.193.51.1158681754.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <45101684.3000403@redhat.com> Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le Mar 19 septembre 2006 16:45, M?ir?n Duffy a ?crit : > >> I can try to contact people within Red Hat to see if the white outline >> variation is OK or not, but I think it would be far easier to just >> remove it. > > When my corp did its last logo change (like every 15 years or so) they > provided and official white outline variation for this problem. The > reasonning being that white outline was the least intrusive change, and > letting people tweak colours or create outline variations on their own was > way worse. Right, I think this is a great idea - if we can get an officially sanctioned or whatever outline version of the logomark in the logo guidelines then there will be one version rather than leaving it up to people create them which will inevitably result in different variations. (There are a lot of ways you can do a white outline. Thickness, clear to blurred outline, with a drop shadow incolved, etc.) and we want the logo to be consistent. > They also have official monochrome (main dark colour with density > changes), grey level, black on white, white on transparency variants. I think we need this too. If folks would like to mock some up, I can send them along in a proposal and we can see if we can get them integrated into the guidelines as well. > When putting the logo over a photograph or other problem background > - normal with white outline is used in a signature context (placement on > the photograph is fixed) > - otherwise white over transparency is preffered > > No idea how much of this could apply to Fedora Good ideas! :) Thanks Nicolas. ~m From dimitris at glezos.com Tue Sep 19 16:41:45 2006 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:41:45 +0100 Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: <45100272.8000608@redhat.com> References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> <450DFFD7.90707@glezos.com> <450EA8AB.1070001@redhat.com> <450EAC60.6080800@redhat.com> <450EAEE3.20300@nicubunu.ro> <1158595867.3272.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <450F9010.9040306@nicubunu.ro> <450FF3B7.90601@redhat.com> <450FFF31.8000600@glezos.com> <45100272.8000608@redhat.com> Message-ID: <45101DC9.1060106@glezos.com> O/H M?ir?n Duffy ??????: > Dimitris Glezos wrote: >> O/H M?ir?n Duffy ??????: >>> So I'm not really sure how much leeway we have with the logo guidelines >>> at all. Since it's still intellectually the property of Red Hat and by >>> using it we are bound to the guidelines we agreed to when we received >>> the files, we really can't change the guidelines. >> >> I think the logo is just fine. Guidelines should be for keeping things >> under >> control, not stifling innovation. > > Right, but guidelines are also for making sure that the logo, including > the logotype and logomark, are defensible as trademarked. See, the logo > was trademarked as described in the guidelines, so if we start using it > outside those guidelines we risk losing the trademark which right now > Red Hat would like to protect. [...] > > So, I strongly recommend removing the white outline on the Fedora logomark. > > [...] >> Instead of this, I would prefer >> something like "So, fedora-artwork concluded that the current >> guidelines don't >> contrast well with dark backgrounds. Since this logo is a fedora-artwork >> approved solution, we'll incorporate this into the guidelines". > > I would not say that the white outline is a fedora-artwork approved > solution at this point. I think this is still under discussion. > > I can try to contact people within Red Hat to see if the white outline > variation is OK or not, but I think it would be far easier to just > remove it. M?ir?n, please note a couple of points: 1. The theme I suggested as "preferred" (v3b) uses the official Fedora logo on the right side of the header. See the live version at: http://dimitris.glezos.com/box/foss/fc6-browser-splash/ 2. I didn't design the injudicial logo. In fact, I found it as part of Fedora Core at `/usr/share/gdm/themes/Bluecurve/rh_logo-header.png`. Furthermore, the whole default theme of FC5 was based on a Fedora logo which is inside a 3D white outline :) : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemingOverview I think the white outline was beautiful and that it could be defended as an equal to the original trademarked one in a court very profoundly. 3. In my last mail I agreed that the artwork and the guidelines should be aligned. We should include a version with white outline in the guidelines produced by the fedora-artwork team. So, I agree with all the points concerning the guidelines. I believe we are wasting time with this whole discussion because the modification is very small and could be included in the guidelines by now. Please let's go on and include it because the artwork and the people need it. Finally, please do bear in mind that these discussions are a real "stop energy" [1] to volunteers. -dim [1]: http://www.userland.com/whatIsStopEnergy -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From duffy at redhat.com Tue Sep 19 17:03:33 2006 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 13:03:33 -0400 Subject: DNA theme for new FC6 browser splash page In-Reply-To: <45101DC9.1060106@glezos.com> References: <4506C681.6040505@glezos.com> <450DFFD7.90707@glezos.com> <450EA8AB.1070001@redhat.com> <450EAC60.6080800@redhat.com> <450EAEE3.20300@nicubunu.ro> <1158595867.3272.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <450F9010.9040306@nicubunu.ro> <450FF3B7.90601@redhat.com> <450FFF31.8000600@glezos.com> <45100272.8000608@redhat.com> <45101DC9.1060106@glezos.com> Message-ID: <451022E5.6090001@redhat.com> Dimitris Glezos wrote: > M?ir?n, please note a couple of points: > > 1. The theme I suggested as "preferred" (v3b) uses the official Fedora logo on > the right side of the header. See the live version at: > > http://dimitris.glezos.com/box/foss/fc6-browser-splash/ Dimitris, I'm attaching the only mockup with a 'v3b' label in its filename that was included in the fc6-browser-splash-shots.tar.gz that you sent to this list. I apologize for the confusion but I did not receive a copy of the version that is at the link quoted above in that tar.gz file. I was assuming you were referring to the attached. > 2. I didn't design the injudicial logo. In fact, I found it as part of Fedora > Core at `/usr/share/gdm/themes/Bluecurve/rh_logo-header.png`. Furthermore, the > whole default theme of FC5 was based on a Fedora logo which is inside a 3D white > outline :) : > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemingOverview > > I think the white outline was beautiful and that it could be defended as an > equal to the original trademarked one in a court very profoundly. I understand your position, but that is your opinion and we need to consider the opinions of the trademark holders most seriously I think. There is definitely a gap in the logo guidelines that needs to be addressed. Also, the artwork you cite was created well before the guidelines were created and made public. > 3. In my last mail I agreed that the artwork and the guidelines should be > aligned. We should include a version with white outline in the guidelines > produced by the fedora-artwork team. So, I agree with all the points concerning > the guidelines. Okay, great. As I mentioned earlier I asked the folks in charge of the guidelines whether or not the outline was acceptable and if the guidelines could be updated to include more variations. I will keep the list posted on what I hear back from them. > I believe we are wasting time with this whole discussion because the > modification is very small and could be included in the guidelines by now. This is not true as I don't believe anyone on this list has the blessings of Red Hat to change the guidelines (if there is someone here please speak up! :) ). This is why I brought the issue up to the folks who created the guidelines - so we can change them. > Please let's go on and include it because the artwork and the people need it. > > Finally, please do bear in mind that these discussions are a real "stop energy" > [1] to volunteers. Dimitris, I'm not happy about having to bring it up and seeming like the bad guy; as I said before intersections between law and art suck but they are there and I am just trying to make sure we don't set a precedent that will put the logo at risk. That is all. And I really do not think this is a serious example of stop energy as it would be trivial to remove the white outline if you were to use the attached mockup and I would do it myself for you gladly. You asked for feedback and you got it; that's the way it's supposed to work. Anyway, if it is any consolation, I am also involved with the GNOME logo redesign and that is where some of my fears about the logo variation have come from as I learned a lot about logo trademarking from that experience. I also think this discussion was well worth it as a serious flaw in the guidelines was exposed and we are hopefully on track to address it and improve the guidelines. Thanks, ~m -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: v3b-dark-headings.png Type: image/png Size: 111451 bytes Desc: not available URL: From baerjj at gmail.com Wed Sep 20 01:21:16 2006 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:21:16 -0400 Subject: FC6 Splash Page Submission Message-ID: <1158715276.3365.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Dimitris, I apologize for my tardiness in replying to your request for assistance with the Fedora default splash page. As you are aware things are moving fast in order to provide the highest quality product come release day. With that said, I put together an idea that is a little different from the traditional for your consideration. It is based on a couple of assumptions. 1. The artwork for this page does not have to mirror the artwork of the theme. 2. The intent of this page is to provide additional information to the first time user of fedora and the person who has upgraded their fedora. Realizing all appropriate trademarks must be honored, the graphics may be adjusted if this is something of interest. The submission may be viewed at http://www.uthando.net/fc6_startup/dftFedora.html Please note the content is simply to illustrate the design. Cheers, John From baerjj at gmail.com Wed Sep 20 01:44:13 2006 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:44:13 -0400 Subject: New background Message-ID: <1158716653.3606.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Diana, Thank you for providing your artwork on the new background. Just a couple of comments. 1. When I view the new background on my Dell laptop the brighter image did not display as well the original. On this computer I believe something brighter than the original but darker than the current would be the best solution. I must add this wasn't as big of an issue on my desktop. The 810 video chip on the Dell may be the reason. 2. This is just me but I really liked the crystal/glass look of the ball on the first design. I would encourage you to go back to that concept. 3. It looks like some of the rounded ribbons are more flat. I like that enhancement. Given the amount of time and the number of graphics to be finalized I believe you and Mola are probably the best choice in wrapping this up. If you keep your status page updated I will be happy to test and provide feedback on how they look. If you have a specific need and if you believe inkscape or gimp will craft it, always willing to help. Cheers, John From stickster at gmail.com Wed Sep 20 14:54:26 2006 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:54:26 +0000 Subject: Fedora screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <1158327576.2915.2.camel@t43.localdomain> References: <1158327576.2915.2.camel@t43.localdomain> Message-ID: <1158764066.10989.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2006-09-15 at 09:39 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > It looks like the lock dialog isn't "gone," it's just disabled by > default to prevent user confusion: > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-September/msg00327.html > > For people who are less confused, it would be great if the art package > for FC6 would include a themed screensaver dialog. I did one a while > back (see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields/Drafts for the > SVG). Not only was it amateurish, though, but the theme has since moved > onward and upward. I think it looks very nice, by the way. Would it be > possible for someone to theme this small box? I didn't even change any > of the XML for my dialog; I simply built the graphic around the current > XML positioning. Was there anyone interested in this information? (Shameless bump.) -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project Board: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board Fedora Docs Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Sep 20 15:02:27 2006 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:32:27 +0530 Subject: Fedora screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <1158764066.10989.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1158327576.2915.2.camel@t43.localdomain> <1158764066.10989.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <45115803.6030603@fedoraproject.org> Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Fri, 2006-09-15 at 09:39 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> It looks like the lock dialog isn't "gone," it's just disabled by >> default to prevent user confusion: >> >> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-September/msg00327.html >> >> For people who are less confused, it would be great if the art package >> for FC6 would include a themed screensaver dialog. I did one a while >> back (see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields/Drafts for the >> SVG). Not only was it amateurish, though, but the theme has since moved >> onward and upward. I think it looks very nice, by the way. Would it be >> possible for someone to theme this small box? I didn't even change any >> of the XML for my dialog; I simply built the graphic around the current >> XML positioning. > > Was there anyone interested in this information? (Shameless bump.) > > Yep. I added a item to the release notes mentioning this. Someone else has to do the theming work. Rahul From dfong at redhat.com Wed Sep 20 15:10:24 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:10:24 -0400 Subject: Fedora screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <1158764066.10989.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1158327576.2915.2.camel@t43.localdomain> <1158764066.10989.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <451159E0.4000803@redhat.com> Paul... Thanks for following up and pushing for this. I talked to Matthias a couple of days ago for clarification. He said he originally told me it was not needed because we were short on time and that it would be turned off by default. However, he is willing to include a fc6 themed lock dialog...note: it'll be disabled by default. I've recently finalized the fc6 graphics and should be able to theme the lock dialog later today or tomorrow. Could you do a quick test for me if I get you the image? I will most likely follow the same layout as before (which you also used in your version). Diana Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Fri, 2006-09-15 at 09:39 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> It looks like the lock dialog isn't "gone," it's just disabled by >> default to prevent user confusion: >> >> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-September/msg00327.html >> >> For people who are less confused, it would be great if the art package >> for FC6 would include a themed screensaver dialog. I did one a while >> back (see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields/Drafts for the >> SVG). Not only was it amateurish, though, but the theme has since moved >> onward and upward. I think it looks very nice, by the way. Would it be >> possible for someone to theme this small box? I didn't even change any >> of the XML for my dialog; I simply built the graphic around the current >> XML positioning. >> > > Was there anyone interested in this information? (Shameless bump.) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > From stickster at gmail.com Wed Sep 20 15:14:06 2006 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:14:06 +0000 Subject: Fedora screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <45115803.6030603@fedoraproject.org> References: <1158327576.2915.2.camel@t43.localdomain> <1158764066.10989.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45115803.6030603@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1158765246.10989.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 20:32 +0530, Rahul wrote: > Paul W. Frields wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-09-15 at 09:39 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> It looks like the lock dialog isn't "gone," it's just disabled by > >> default to prevent user confusion: > >> > >> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-September/msg00327.html > >> > >> For people who are less confused, it would be great if the art package > >> for FC6 would include a themed screensaver dialog. I did one a while > >> back (see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields/Drafts for the > >> SVG). Not only was it amateurish, though, but the theme has since moved > >> onward and upward. I think it looks very nice, by the way. Would it be > >> possible for someone to theme this small box? I didn't even change any > >> of the XML for my dialog; I simply built the graphic around the current > >> XML positioning. > > > > Was there anyone interested in this information? (Shameless bump.) > > Yep. I added a item to the release notes mentioning this. Someone else > has to do the theming work. Yes, that second part was the specific part I was hoping would interest people here. I submitted a candidate for this some time ago, but it predated the wonderful blender work done by the real artists and probably wouldn't work as well now. -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project Board: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board Fedora Docs Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From dfong at redhat.com Wed Sep 20 15:46:47 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:46:47 -0400 Subject: New background In-Reply-To: <1158716653.3606.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1158716653.3606.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <45116267.3020802@redhat.com> John Baer wrote: > 1. When I view the new background on my Dell laptop the brighter image > did not display as well the original. On this computer I believe > something brighter than the original but darker than the current would > be the best solution. I must add this wasn't as big of an issue on my > desktop. The 810 video chip on the Dell may be the reason. > Eks...How bad is it? is not well = bad or just not as good when switching between the original and new wallpaper? I've been testing it on my mac laptop, Dell CRT (can't remember the model), hp pavilion f1903 flatscreen and VeiwSonic PT813 CRT...they all look slightly different. The first three being bright and the last one being pretty dark. =( I've come up with a method for testing which is to just see how the icons (along with it's text) and windows look on top of it. Given the context of icons and windows, I think each (bright or dark) looked ok. Please let me know...I can try to tweak it some more. > 2. This is just me but I really liked the crystal/glass look of the ball > on the first design. I would encourage you to go back to that concept. > I did/do like the glass sphere as well but in the brighter version it looked less convincing. It looked ok in the smaller pieces but to be consistent I've also changed those to the newer sphere. It was a bit of a hard decision to make and Mola explored quite a few different materials in his renderings for a better fit. We went with this one because it sat well within the existing environment, was fairly clean and still interesting. There had also been a couple of other comments against the glass look because you could see through it and the lack of detail behind it was confusing some people, causing them to have see the helix as disconnected from the strands. I really did like the glass sphere and was a little sad to see that it wasn't really working as well. But I think the new sphere is pretty good. =) > Given the amount of time and the number of graphics to be finalized I > believe you and Mola are probably the best choice in wrapping this up. > If you keep your status page updated I will be happy to test and provide > feedback on how they look. > Excellent. I've been updating http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/ with new improvements. If you could take a look, test, and make comments on the wiki it would be super. Since as you've noticed, time is running out and the new bits could really benefit from testing. =) > If you have a specific need and if you believe inkscape or gimp will > craft it, always willing to help. =) I've looked at your splash screen approaches. The ideas were good, though I think a few of them did not match the current theme. We should keep those and bring them up in the next release as possible themes. I really like the fedora tag one. However, your experiments did prompt me to try creating .svg ribbons for the 16 color limitations. Please take a look at the variations. Let me know 1) if it is too dark/light 2) if the pixelation is tolerable. http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/syslinux-splash01.png http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/syslinux-splash02.png http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/grub.png note: I had to make the grub lighter because the highlight for text is black. Thanks! Diana From dfong at redhat.com Wed Sep 20 16:38:46 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:38:46 -0400 Subject: Fedora screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <1158765246.10989.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1158327576.2915.2.camel@t43.localdomain> <1158764066.10989.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45115803.6030603@fedoraproject.org> <1158765246.10989.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <45116E96.8040001@redhat.com> Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 20:32 +0530, Rahul wrote: > >> Paul W. Frields wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 2006-09-15 at 09:39 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: >>> >>>> It looks like the lock dialog isn't "gone," it's just disabled by >>>> default to prevent user confusion: >>>> >>>> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-September/msg00327.html >>>> >>>> For people who are less confused, it would be great if the art package >>>> for FC6 would include a themed screensaver dialog. I did one a while >>>> back (see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields/Drafts for the >>>> SVG). Not only was it amateurish, though, but the theme has since moved >>>> onward and upward. I think it looks very nice, by the way. Would it be >>>> possible for someone to theme this small box? I didn't even change any >>>> of the XML for my dialog; I simply built the graphic around the current >>>> XML positioning. >>>> >>> Was there anyone interested in this information? (Shameless bump.) >>> >> Yep. I added a item to the release notes mentioning this. Someone else >> has to do the theming work. >> > > Yes, that second part was the specific part I was hoping would interest > people here. I submitted a candidate for this some time ago, but it > predated the wonderful blender work done by the real artists and > probably wouldn't work as well now. > I've put together a quick image for the lock dialog [1]. It didn't quite fit the previous layout. Would anyone be interested in tweaking the code to fit the mockup? [2] Let me know so I can update Matthias and get this in. Thanks Diana [1] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/fc6lock-dialog.png [2] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/08screen.png From dfong at redhat.com Wed Sep 20 19:43:36 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:43:36 -0400 Subject: Fedora screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <45116E96.8040001@redhat.com> References: <1158327576.2915.2.camel@t43.localdomain> <1158764066.10989.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45115803.6030603@fedoraproject.org> <1158765246.10989.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45116E96.8040001@redhat.com> Message-ID: <451199E8.8050008@redhat.com> Diana Fong wrote: > Paul W. Frields wrote: >> On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 20:32 +0530, Rahul wrote: >> >>> Paul W. Frields wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 2006-09-15 at 09:39 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: >>>> >>>>> It looks like the lock dialog isn't "gone," it's just disabled by >>>>> default to prevent user confusion: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-September/msg00327.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For people who are less confused, it would be great if the art >>>>> package >>>>> for FC6 would include a themed screensaver dialog. I did one a while >>>>> back (see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields/Drafts for the >>>>> SVG). Not only was it amateurish, though, but the theme has since >>>>> moved >>>>> onward and upward. I think it looks very nice, by the way. Would >>>>> it be >>>>> possible for someone to theme this small box? I didn't even >>>>> change any >>>>> of the XML for my dialog; I simply built the graphic around the >>>>> current >>>>> XML positioning. >>>>> >>>> Was there anyone interested in this information? (Shameless bump.) >>>> >>> Yep. I added a item to the release notes mentioning this. Someone >>> else has to do the theming work. >>> >> >> Yes, that second part was the specific part I was hoping would interest >> people here. I submitted a candidate for this some time ago, but it >> predated the wonderful blender work done by the real artists and >> probably wouldn't work as well now. >> > > I've put together a quick image for the lock dialog [1]. It didn't > quite fit the previous layout. Would anyone be interested in tweaking > the code to fit the mockup? [2] Let me know so I can update Matthias > and get this in. > > Thanks > Diana > > [1] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/fc6lock-dialog.png > [2] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/08screen.png Here we go...I've made a simpler one [1] that reuses the old layout. Hope you'll like it. Matthias is working on minor code modifications to accommodate a longer Smart Card Password prompt. Diana [1] http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/fc6lock-dialog.png From jjmasek at gmail.com Wed Sep 20 19:55:24 2006 From: jjmasek at gmail.com (Jiri Jakub Masek) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:55:24 +0200 Subject: New background In-Reply-To: <45116267.3020802@redhat.com> References: <1158716653.3606.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45116267.3020802@redhat.com> Message-ID: Good work, Diana. JJM On 9/20/06, Diana Fong wrote: > > John Baer wrote: > > 1. When I view the new background on my Dell laptop the brighter image > > did not display as well the original. On this computer I believe > > something brighter than the original but darker than the current would > > be the best solution. I must add this wasn't as big of an issue on my > > desktop. The 810 video chip on the Dell may be the reason. > > > > Eks...How bad is it? is not well = bad or just not as good when > switching between the original and new wallpaper? I've been testing it > on my mac laptop, Dell CRT (can't remember the model), hp pavilion f1903 > flatscreen and VeiwSonic PT813 CRT...they all look slightly different. > The first three being bright and the last one being pretty dark. =( > I've come up with a method for testing which is to just see how the > icons (along with it's text) and windows look on top of it. Given the > context of icons and windows, I think each (bright or dark) looked ok. > Please let me know...I can try to tweak it some more. > > > 2. This is just me but I really liked the crystal/glass look of the ball > > on the first design. I would encourage you to go back to that concept. > > > > I did/do like the glass sphere as well but in the brighter version it > looked less convincing. It looked ok in the smaller pieces but to be > consistent I've also changed those to the newer sphere. It was a bit of > a hard decision to make and Mola explored quite a few different > materials in his renderings for a better fit. We went with this one > because it sat well within the existing environment, was fairly clean > and still interesting. There had also been a couple of other comments > against the glass look because you could see through it and the lack of > detail behind it was confusing some people, causing them to have see the > helix as disconnected from the strands. I really did like the glass > sphere and was a little sad to see that it wasn't really working as > well. But I think the new sphere is pretty good. =) > > > Given the amount of time and the number of graphics to be finalized I > > believe you and Mola are probably the best choice in wrapping this up. > > If you keep your status page updated I will be happy to test and provide > > feedback on how they look. > > > > Excellent. I've been updating http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/ > with new improvements. If you could take a look, test, and make > comments on the wiki it would be super. Since as you've noticed, time > is running out and the new bits could really benefit from testing. =) > > > If you have a specific need and if you believe inkscape or gimp will > > craft it, always willing to help. > > =) I've looked at your splash screen approaches. The ideas were good, > though I think a few of them did not match the current theme. We should > keep those and bring them up in the next release as possible themes. I > really like the fedora tag one. However, your experiments did prompt me > to try creating .svg ribbons for the 16 color limitations. > > Please take a look at the variations. Let me know 1) if it is too > dark/light 2) if the pixelation is tolerable. > http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/syslinux-splash01.png > http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/syslinux-splash02.png > http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/grub.png > note: I had to make the grub lighter because the highlight for text is > black. > > Thanks! > Diana > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- I'm still learning English... Ji?? Jakub Ma?ek - Jiri Jakub Masek Czech Republic, European Union -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Let me know 1) if it is too > dark/light 2) if the pixelation is tolerable. > http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/syslinux-splash01.png > http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/syslinux-splash02.png > http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/grub.png > note: I had to make the grub lighter because the highlight for text is > black. I like the grub very much :) -- Igor Jagec From charles.vinchon at fedoraproject.org Wed Sep 20 22:11:44 2006 From: charles.vinchon at fedoraproject.org (Charles VINCHON) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 00:11:44 +0200 Subject: Mascot Message-ID: <1158790304.2512.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> For the mascot, why not take the style of Nicolas Rougier (http://www.loria.fr/~rougier/index.php?n=Artwork.Gnu) and make a dragoon or another creature that look like these ones. 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URL: From thomas.canniot at laposte.net Thu Sep 21 20:27:54 2006 From: thomas.canniot at laposte.net (Thomas Canniot) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:27:54 +0200 Subject: New background In-Reply-To: <45124643.8070705@vip.hr> References: <1158716653.3606.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45116267.3020802@redhat.com> <45124643.8070705@vip.hr> Message-ID: <1158870474.2798.18.camel@MrTomLinux.workstation> Le jeudi 21 septembre 2006 ? 09:58 +0200, Igor Jagec a ?crit : > Diana Fong wrote: > > > Please take a look at the variations. Let me know 1) if it is too > > dark/light 2) if the pixelation is tolerable. > > http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/syslinux-splash01.png > > http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/syslinux-splash02.png > > http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/grub.png > > note: I had to make the grub lighter because the highlight for text is > > black. > > I like the grub very much :) So do I, but the blue color used for the grub splash seems more to be a fc5 color. Light blue and white for fc5 and dark blue and black for fc6. I mean that there seems to be a gap between grub image and gdm image. The couple grub and default wallpaper is fine, but gdm dark version seems tnot to used the same color palette. > -- Thomas Canniot http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasCanniot From box at mjungle.it Thu Sep 21 22:41:50 2006 From: box at mjungle.it (Marco D'Amico) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 00:41:50 +0200 Subject: New background In-Reply-To: <45116267.3020802@redhat.com> References: <1158716653.3606.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45116267.3020802@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4513152E.8040706@mjungle.it> Diana Fong ha scritto: > Please take a look at the variations. Let me know 1) if it is too > dark/light 2) if the pixelation is tolerable. > http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/syslinux-splash01.png > http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/syslinux-splash02.png > http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6reGraphics/grub.png > note: I had to make the grub lighter because the highlight for text is > black. Hi Diana, I prefer the first splash solutions, and I like the grub image. Good works. Ciao Marco From dfong at redhat.com Thu Sep 21 23:39:58 2006 From: dfong at redhat.com (Diana Fong) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:39:58 -0400 Subject: FC6 disk artworks In-Reply-To: <1158220695.2517.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1158220695.2517.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <451322CE.3040000@redhat.com> Here are a few of mine... Using the same clean look as Charles, but with the new dna graphics. http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/cdDVD/FC6cdvd.png http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/cdDVD/FC6cd3colors.eps.zip http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/cdDVD/FC6cdFull.eps.zip http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/cdDVD/FC6dvd3colors.eps.zip http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/cdDVD/FC6dvdFull.eps.zip Diana Charles VINCHON wrote: > Hi all, > Please find here the last version of my work (based on the first DNA > background) > > http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/tray-ppc.png > http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/labels/cd1.png > http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/labels/cd2.png > http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/labels/cd3.png > http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/labels/cd4.png > http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/labels/cd5.png > http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/labels/dvd.png > http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/jackets/jacket-64bit.png > http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/jackets/jacket-x86.png > http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/jackets/jacket-ppc.png > http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/inserts/insert-external-64bit.png http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/inserts/insert-external-ppc.svg http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/inserts/insert-internal-ppc.png > http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/inserts/insert-external-64bit.svg http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/inserts/insert-external-x86.png http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/inserts/insert-internal-ppc.svg > http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/inserts/insert-external-ppc.png http://charles.vinchon.fr/documents/fedora/artwork/fc6/cds/inserts/insert-external-x86.svg > > Could some one link them on the wiki (I have difficulties with it)? > > Tell me if there is mistakes. > > Thanks in advance > > Charles > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > From baerjj at gmail.com Fri Sep 22 00:04:24 2006 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 20:04:24 -0400 Subject: Another Grub Image Message-ID: <1158883465.2682.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Diana, IMO the current grub design takes on the persona of a photographic negative. I posted on my white board a different approach to the design for your consideration. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JohnBaerFC6Splash I found the second image displays reasonably well on my two test systems. Cheers, John From baerjj at gmail.com Fri Sep 22 01:10:32 2006 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:10:32 -0400 Subject: Dell Latitude Message-ID: <1158887432.2669.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Diana, I had reported earlier the artwork quality on my Dell Latitude was poor. Although not as good as my desktop I believe the quality is acceptable. John From jjmasek at gmail.com Fri Sep 22 06:37:36 2006 From: jjmasek at gmail.com (Jiri Jakub Masek) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 08:37:36 +0200 Subject: Another Grub Image In-Reply-To: <1158883465.2682.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1158883465.2682.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Hi, I found that the second is better, I like clear geometry more when is used a 16 color palette. Good work. JJM On 9/22/06, John Baer wrote: > > Diana, > > IMO the current grub design takes on the persona of a photographic > negative. > > I posted on my white board a different approach to the design for your > consideration. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JohnBaerFC6Splash > > I found the second image displays reasonably well on my two test > systems. > > Cheers, > > John > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- I'm still learning English... Ji?? Jakub Ma?ek - Jiri Jakub Masek Czech Republic, European Union -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dimitris at glezos.com Sat Sep 23 22:34:33 2006 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 23:34:33 +0100 Subject: FC6 Splash Page Submission In-Reply-To: <1158715276.3365.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1158715276.3365.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4515B679.5080200@glezos.com> O/H John Baer ??????: > Dimitris, > > I apologize for my tardiness in replying to your request for assistance > with the Fedora default splash page. As you are aware things are moving > fast in order to provide the highest quality product come release day. The artwork of FC6 is indeed of the highest quality. Keep up the good work guys (and gals!). > With that said, I put together an idea that is a little different from > the traditional for your consideration. > > It is based on a couple of assumptions. > > 1. The artwork for this page does not have to mirror the artwork of the > theme. > > 2. The intent of this page is to provide additional information to the > first time user of fedora and the person who has upgraded their fedora. > > Realizing all appropriate trademarks must be honored, the graphics may > be adjusted if this is something of interest. > > The submission may be viewed at > > http://www.uthando.net/fc6_startup/dftFedora.html The design is very nice, I like the simplicity and the colors. Many of the pieces of your design are much more appealing than the original design. There are some points that I think we should try to have on the splash page, even though some of them might limit the design or even make it uglier. * Make sure the page feels like "home"; differentiate it from the normal pages on the Internet. I tried to avoid vertical lines, so that the text blends with the application (the browser). That's the reason I didn't prefer the version with the dark header: the simple gradient is simpler and feels more like a start page and less than an Internet page. * Put on the page as much info and as high as possible, so that the user won't have to scroll down. That's a +1 for the double columns. * Avoid sub-pages, since this won't be a website but just an index page. Separate documents should be on a different page. Put a link "Return to the index page" on top of it, or include breadcrumbs so that the user won't feel at any point disoriented. * Make sure there is low contrast in the objects/colors and not many boxes and corners so that it pleasant to as many people as possible. * Keep accessibility at a maximum: High contrast (white bg, black text, links underlined & different color). Remember that this is not a normal webpage: It's the start page of thousands of people. So, I tried to incorporate the above in the design as much as possible. I feel a design like the one you prepared fits more for a web page on the Fedora Project website. I prefer something like that than what we have on the wiki for sure: your design might be a good starting point for a redesign of the wiki or for the future website. Which reminded me that many people think our website is bad and of low usability and other websites like the GNOME, Ubuntu or openSUSE are better. :) -dim > Please note the content is simply to illustrate the design. > > Cheers, > > John > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From jjmasek at gmail.com Sun Sep 24 21:42:17 2006 From: jjmasek at gmail.com (Jiri Jakub Masek) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 23:42:17 +0200 Subject: Mascot In-Reply-To: <1158790304.2512.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1158790304.2512.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Hi, I'm interested in, has FEDORA a mascot? If it hasn't any let's talk about. May be I have an idea... JJM On 9/21/06, Charles VINCHON wrote: > > For the mascot, why not take the style of Nicolas Rougier > (http://www.loria.fr/~rougier/index.php?n=Artwork.Gnu) and make a > dragoon or another creature that look like these ones. > > Charles > -- > Charles Vinchon > French Fedora Ambassador > Lille, France (GMT+2 - CEST) > > http://fedoraproject.org/Wiki/CharlesVinchon > mailto:charles.vinchon at fedoraproject.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > -- I'm still learning English... Ji?? Jakub Ma?ek - Jiri Jakub Masek Czech Republic, European Union -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If we bring a very cute proposal I believe the chances for Fedora to adopt a mascot will increase. Of course, we can start a very slow and bureaucratic approach: discuss if we want a mascot or not, vote, talk about the metaphor, vote again, make some concurrent designs and vote once more. But having something uber-cute from the start may be a shortcut for this entire process :p > On 9/21/06, *Charles VINCHON* < charles.vinchon at fedoraproject.org > > For the mascot, why not take the style of Nicolas Rougier > (http://www.loria.fr/~rougier/index.php?n=Artwork.Gnu) and make a > dragoon or another creature that look like these ones. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From jfrieben at freesurf.fr Mon Sep 25 09:07:02 2006 From: jfrieben at freesurf.fr (Joachim Frieben) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:07:02 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Mascot In-Reply-To: <451791D7.2000302@nicubunu.ro> References: <451791D7.2000302@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <26902.194.94.224.254.1159175222.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> Stop infantilization, .. no 'mascot' for Fedora! The 'infinity' logo is amply sufficient. > Jiri Jakub Masek wrote: >> Hi, I'm interested in, has FEDORA a mascot? If it hasn't any let's >> talk about. May be I have an idea... > > I think there was a little talk about having a mascot, but without a > final resolution, so is not decided if we will have a mascot or not. > From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Sep 25 09:54:14 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 12:54:14 +0300 Subject: Mascot In-Reply-To: <26902.194.94.224.254.1159175222.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> References: <451791D7.2000302@nicubunu.ro> <26902.194.94.224.254.1159175222.squirrel@jose.freesurf.fr> Message-ID: <4517A746.4070105@nicubunu.ro> Joachim Frieben wrote: > Stop infantilization, .. no 'mascot' for Fedora! The 'infinity' logo is > amply sufficient. Do you think the SUSE's "Gekko" chameleon, the Ximian's "Rupert" monkey, the Linux's "Tux" penguin or the GNU's gnu are infantile? -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From jfrieben at freesurf.fr Mon Sep 25 09:57:01 2006 From: jfrieben at freesurf.fr (Joachim Frieben) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:57:01 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Mascot In-Reply-To: <4517A746.4070105@nicubunu.ro> References: <4517A746.4070105@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <46862.194.94.224.254.1159178221.squirrel@arlette.freesurf.fr> I do, although my twin sister herself designed SUSE's "Gekko" chameleon. > Do you think the SUSE's "Gekko" chameleon, the Ximian's "Rupert" > monkey, > the Linux's "Tux" penguin or the GNU's gnu are infantile? From jjmasek at gmail.com Mon Sep 25 11:19:29 2006 From: jjmasek at gmail.com (Jiri Jakub Masek) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:19:29 +0200 Subject: Last minute Login submission In-Reply-To: <1159151101.2733.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1159151101.2733.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Good work JJM On 9/25/06, John Baer wrote: > > Diana, > > Realizing the hour is late, I but together a submission of what I was > thinking of for the login page. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JohnBaerFC6Login > > Cheers, > > John > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- I'm still learning English... Ji?? Jakub Ma?ek - Jiri Jakub Masek Czech Republic, European Union -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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JJM P.S.: don't forget http://jjm.xf.cz On 9/25/06, Joachim Frieben wrote: > > I do, although my twin sister herself designed SUSE's "Gekko" chameleon. > > > Do you think the SUSE's "Gekko" chameleon, the Ximian's "Rupert" > > monkey, > > the Linux's "Tux" penguin or the GNU's gnu are infantile? > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- I'm still learning English... Ji?? Jakub Ma?ek - Jiri Jakub Masek Czech Republic, European Union -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From baerjj at gmail.com Mon Sep 25 12:31:55 2006 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 08:31:55 -0400 Subject: There is always room for new ideas Message-ID: <484ace5d0609250531xbac8d5et6b3e3eb3c8f3918a@mail.gmail.com> All, When I look at the thought and effort that went into the design of the current Fedora logo there are many positive things I would comment on. In addition, I would be the first to indicate the logo has been out there for a while and has market recognition. However, that does not mean discussing a change would be out of order. One item about the current logo which has challanged myself and other individuals is the complexity and the colors of the design. I believe all would agree simplicity in graphic design is a good thing and the current logo has a lot good things going on. In addition, the colors do not present the logo well. As it scales down the infinity artifact blurs or dissappears altogether. I suggest as we move toward fedora 7 and the designs we consider the logo be a topic of discussion. Who knows, we may just find ways of improving on a very good design. As for a mascot, let's not reject an idea until we are sure there is no value in it. As we start brain storming let's put it on the list. It sounds like we have folks with some talent in this area. > jjm wrote: > O.K., so, it should be the *Byte* a not infantilizating mascot of FEDORA, > seriously: it's about graphics design, when it's naive it may look > infantile. The other way, a mascot could bring more of sympathy with FEDORA, > some people like mascots. > > JJM > > P.S.: don't forget http://jjm.xf.cz > > On 9/25/06, Joachim Frieben wrote: > > I do, although my twin sister herself designed SUSE's "Gekko" chameleon. > > > Do you think the SUSE's "Gekko" chameleon, the Ximian's "Rupert" > > monkey, > > the Linux's "Tux" penguin or the GNU's gnu are infantile? 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Besides there is a belief that the icon theme needs considerable testing before made default for FC. -- Leo From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Thu Sep 28 09:45:23 2006 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:45:23 +0800 Subject: An Echo question Message-ID: > What happened to Echo project? I haven't seen any updates recently. Is > it going to be packaged for Fedora Extras? Is it going to be included in > RHEL5? Thanks. No. As Leo pointed out, there are a lot of work to do with Echo icons. There are thousand icons to be worked on to fully replace Bluecurve. Work will resume once FC6 is released. Luya Tshimbalanga -- Fedora Project Contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga http://www.fedoranews.org From igorm5 at vip.hr Thu Sep 28 11:24:33 2006 From: igorm5 at vip.hr (Igor Jagec) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:24:33 +0200 Subject: An Echo question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <451BB0F1.40506@vip.hr> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: >> What happened to Echo project? I haven't seen any updates recently. Is >> it going to be packaged for Fedora Extras? Is it going to be included in >> RHEL5? Thanks. > No. As Leo pointed out, there are a lot of work to do with Echo icons. Thanks to both of you for the answer. Diana Fong once said that Echo would be in Extras, so I thought it's already there. > There are thousand icons to be worked on to fully replace Bluecurve. > Work will resume once FC6 is released. I hope it's going to fully replace Bluecurve in FC7, or in early FC7 test releases :) Cheers! -- Igor Jagec From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Sep 28 12:35:44 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:35:44 +0300 Subject: An Echo question In-Reply-To: <451BB0F1.40506@vip.hr> References: <451BB0F1.40506@vip.hr> Message-ID: <451BC1A0.6040800@nicubunu.ro> Igor Jagec wrote: > > Thanks to both of you for the answer. Diana Fong once said that Echo > would be in Extras, so I thought it's already there. It will be in Extras as soon as an contributor bother to package and submit it > I hope it's going to fully replace Bluecurve in FC7, or in early FC7 > test releases :) This really depends on us. In fact there is no need to wait for the FC6 release to start contributing icons, each of us can create new icons right now and upload them to the wiki page. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From igorm5 at vip.hr Thu Sep 28 13:15:29 2006 From: igorm5 at vip.hr (Igor Jagec) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:15:29 +0200 Subject: An Echo question In-Reply-To: <451BC1A0.6040800@nicubunu.ro> References: <451BB0F1.40506@vip.hr> <451BC1A0.6040800@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <451BCAF1.1080008@vip.hr> Nicu Buculei ka?e: > Igor Jagec wrote: >> Thanks to both of you for the answer. Diana Fong once said that Echo >> would be in Extras, so I thought it's already there. > It will be in Extras as soon as an contributor bother to package and > submit it >> I hope it's going to fully replace Bluecurve in FC7, or in early FC7 >> test releases :) > This really depends on us. In fact there is no need to wait for the FC6 > release to start contributing icons, each of us can create new icons > right now and upload them to the wiki page. Yep, you're right. BTW you have nice wallpapers and stuff on your website :) -- Igor Jagec From baerjj at gmail.com Fri Sep 29 00:57:08 2006 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:57:08 -0400 Subject: Ok, this is a little off topic? In-Reply-To: <20060928160004.93859732C2@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20060928160004.93859732C2@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1159491428.3456.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Nicu, I took a look some of your pages and they are very nice. Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ My question is were these svg files created with inkscape or something else? I've been trying to find a way to make an Adobe like drop shadow as presented in 3d_bubble_01 using inkscape. John From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Sep 29 05:42:42 2006 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 08:42:42 +0300 Subject: Ok, this is a little off topic? In-Reply-To: <1159491428.3456.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20060928160004.93859732C2@hormel.redhat.com> <1159491428.3456.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <451CB252.10804@nicubunu.ro> John Baer wrote: > > My question is were these svg files created with inkscape or something > else? Yes, 100% Inkscape. > I've been trying to find a way to make an Adobe like drop shadow as > presented in 3d_bubble_01 using inkscape. Unfortunately Inkscape does not have yet real gaussian blur, so you have to use a workaround for the moment. The good news is the next version, 0.45 *will* have a gaussian blur filter, implemented as a Google Summer of Code project. The drop shadow in my files was created using the "Blur Edge" effect. Sorry to the list if my reply was offtopic. -- nicu Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From stickster at gmail.com Fri Sep 29 22:26:05 2006 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 18:26:05 -0400 Subject: Brilliant Message-ID: <1159568765.5606.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> You guys who worked on the FC6 theme, contributed comments, suggested fixes, etc., ROCK. The new art looks great, so congratulations to all y'all. -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project Board: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board Fedora Docs Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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