From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Sun Apr 1 07:39:56 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 00:39:56 -0700 Subject: echo-icon-theme: gnome-devel icon draft In-Reply-To: <460EE502.7050406@seznam.cz> References: <460A822C.20202@seznam.cz> <6e24a8e80703280812x3b1ee531w224c2689f3b26dbc@mail.gmail.com> <33367.192.54.193.51.1175095604.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <9c3bfa1d0703281157h24a1b397gfea0cce79fc20ef5@mail.gmail.com> <1175110198.17719.2.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <460ADC7B.3000904@seznam.cz> <460EE502.7050406@seznam.cz> Message-ID: <460F61CC.8090205@thefinalzone.com> Martin Sourada wrote: > Hi, > I made new gnome-devel icons (currently only 48x48 and 24x24) using the lego > scheme. See attachments. They are also available on my wiki [1]. What do you think? > > The bloc looks blurry on screen, Perhaps you should emphasize on them by using different color. Luya From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Sun Apr 1 07:42:44 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2007 00:42:44 -0700 Subject: Keyboard icons Message-ID: <460F6274.8080905@thefinalzone.com> Using the isometric grid, here is the attempt to create a keyboard. It will be the base to create other icons like character map. Luya -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: preferences-desktop-keyboard.png Type: image/png Size: 997 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: preferences-desktop-keyboard24.png Type: image/png Size: 1751 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What do you think? >> >> > > The bloc looks blurry on screen, Perhaps you should emphasize on them by > using > different color. > > Luya > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > Is this better? Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: gnome-devel24_a.png Type: image/png Size: 1295 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: gnome-develL_a.png Type: image/png Size: 3983 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Luya From markg85 at gmail.com Sun Apr 1 12:08:05 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 14:08:05 +0200 Subject: Keyboard icons In-Reply-To: <460F6274.8080905@thefinalzone.com> References: <460F6274.8080905@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80704010508i25b456c1h2f8cf1fab118d8d9@mail.gmail.com> way to dark!! 2007/4/1, Luya Tshimbalanga : > > Using the isometric grid, here is the attempt to create a keyboard. It > will be the base to > create other icons like character map. > > Luya > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I will fix the small version later. > > Luya > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markg85 at gmail.com Mon Apr 2 19:20:42 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 21:20:42 +0200 Subject: Reworked go-ups and go-down In-Reply-To: <4610DD9E.4080809@thefinalzone.com> References: <4610DD9E.4080809@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80704021220h7164fbdr9274e57cf13ab66e@mail.gmail.com> looking good :) no critics from me on this one. 2007/4/2, Luya Tshimbalanga : > > Both icons were missing on EchoDevelopment wiki so I decide to remake > them. The small version were modified with Gimp . They will be used for > future software update icon. > > Luya > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Wed Apr 4 06:39:58 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 23:39:58 -0700 Subject: Keyboard icons In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80704021219o5d427d6xe329118a48f2d07e@mail.gmail.com> References: <460F6274.8080905@thefinalzone.com> <6e24a8e80704010508i25b456c1h2f8cf1fab118d8d9@mail.gmail.com> <4610DC1A.2060201@thefinalzone.com> <6e24a8e80704021219o5d427d6xe329118a48f2d07e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4613483E.1000303@thefinalzone.com> Mark wrote: > .. why not make the keyboard how it reallu looks.. soft white with > black keys. > Here is the latest update. 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The 16x16 will be 2D. > > > Luya > > >> _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list This ones are perfect. Only one comment - why the shade is offset from the icon? I didn't saw such a thing in other Echo icons... Thanks, Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Only one comment - why the shade is offset from the icon? >> I didn't saw such a thing in other Echo icons... >> >> Thanks, >> Martin >> >> > Fixed. > > Luya > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Hm... I meant it is offset a little too much behind the icon. IMO it should be directly below it (and a little backwards). Did you attached there right icons? The first is exactly the same as the one you posted before and the second one (with L postfix) has only cut shadow on the left and is in 24x24 size... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 249 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Wed Apr 4 07:54:31 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 09:54:31 +0200 (CEST) Subject: New icons draft: menu editor, package manager (Pirut) In-Reply-To: <46134983.4000907@thefinalzone.com> References: <46134983.4000907@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <55474.192.54.193.51.1175673271.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Mer 4 avril 2007 08:45, Luya Tshimbalanga a ?crit : > Just made a quick icons for menu editor and package manager based on > current Echo version. In case of 24x24, they will be retouched with > Gimp. More icons will come. Some remarks (I know I'm a pest): 1. I don't like the menu editor icon at all. If you don't know it's a menu editor, you won't guess : the menu part is difficult to distinguish, and the pen is associated with writing text, not composing menus. I'd rework the menu bit and remove the pen. Probably taking something like the classic "add line in a table" icon as base. Right now at fist sight it looks like yet another office/text editor icon. Generally speaking the isometric perspective echo chose makes this kind of icon difficult to create, since it reduces the effective space and slants common symbols. It works with 3d objects but not with 2d objects and pictograms (Note: I'm typically using >= 100 dpi screens, and they'll only get more common now Vista lifted the old 96dpi windows resolution clamping. That means I may see have somewhat smaller pixels than you, with smaller icons) 2. I'd remove the CD & gray box on the second one (no idea if it's supposed to be a PC tower case or a CD+manual box). The main installation/update method is network nowadays, and almost no one gets his Linux software in cardboard boxes. Maybe a pile of greyed-out closed packages with one colorful open package in the foreground would work better. Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Wed Apr 4 07:54:50 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 00:54:50 -0700 Subject: Keyboard icons In-Reply-To: <4613525C.9000204@seznam.cz> References: <460F6274.8080905@thefinalzone.com> <6e24a8e80704010508i25b456c1h2f8cf1fab118d8d9@mail.gmail.com> <4610DC1A.2060201@thefinalzone.com> <6e24a8e80704021219o5d427d6xe329118a48f2d07e@mail.gmail.com> <4613483E.1000303@thefinalzone.com> <46134E85.4090400@seznam.cz> <46135149.7030209@thefinalzone.com> <4613525C.9000204@seznam.cz> Message-ID: <461359CA.2030708@thefinalzone.com> Martin Sourada wrote: > Luya Tshimbalanga napsal(a): > >> Martin Sourada wrote: >> >>> This ones are perfect. Only one comment - why the shade is offset from the icon? >>> I didn't saw such a thing in other Echo icons... >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Martin >>> >>> >>> >> Fixed. >> >> Luya >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-art-list mailing list >> Fedora-art-list at redhat.com >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list >> > > Hm... I meant it is offset a little too much behind the icon. IMO it should be > directly below it (and a little backwards). Did you attached there right icons? > The first is exactly the same as the one you posted before and the second one > (with L postfix) has only cut shadow on the left and is in 24x24 size... > Posting the svg version. For some reason, I experiment a slowdown on Inkscape. -- ??D0 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: preferences-desktop-keyboard24.svg Type: image/svg+xml Size: 24712 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Wed Apr 4 07:58:02 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 09:58:02 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Keyboard icons In-Reply-To: <4613483E.1000303@thefinalzone.com> References: <460F6274.8080905@thefinalzone.com> <6e24a8e80704010508i25b456c1h2f8cf1fab118d8d9@mail.gmail.com> <4610DC1A.2060201@thefinalzone.com> <6e24a8e80704021219o5d427d6xe329118a48f2d07e@mail.gmail.com> <4613483E.1000303@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <6163.192.54.193.51.1175673482.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Mer 4 avril 2007 08:39, Luya Tshimbalanga a ?crit : > Mark wrote: >> .. why not make the keyboard how it reallu looks.. soft white with >> black keys. >> > Here is the latest update. The keyboard is similar to OLPC XO keyboard > for simplicity. > Currently available is 24x24 and 48x48 icons. The 16x16 will be 2D. Please do not use qwerty keys as base. All the world is not qwerty, you know. Take a key pattern from the middle of the keyboard, as this part tends to be shared by every latin layout at least. I'd have tried deeper keys, but maybe it reduces icon legibility Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Wed Apr 4 07:58:49 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 09:58:49 +0200 Subject: Keyboard icons In-Reply-To: <461359CA.2030708@thefinalzone.com> References: <460F6274.8080905@thefinalzone.com> <6e24a8e80704010508i25b456c1h2f8cf1fab118d8d9@mail.gmail.com> <4610DC1A.2060201@thefinalzone.com> <6e24a8e80704021219o5d427d6xe329118a48f2d07e@mail.gmail.com> <4613483E.1000303@thefinalzone.com> <46134E85.4090400@seznam.cz> <46135149.7030209@thefinalzone.com> <4613525C.9000204@seznam.cz> <461359CA.2030708@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <46135AB9.1080700@seznam.cz> Luya Tshimbalanga napsal(a): > Martin Sourada wrote: >> Luya Tshimbalanga napsal(a): >> >>> Martin Sourada wrote: >>> >>>> This ones are perfect. Only one comment - why the shade is offset from the icon? >>>> I didn't saw such a thing in other Echo icons... >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Martin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Fixed. >>> >>> Luya >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fedora-art-list mailing list >>> Fedora-art-list at redhat.com >>> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list >>> >> >> Hm... I meant it is offset a little too much behind the icon. IMO it should be >> directly below it (and a little backwards). Did you attached there right icons? >> The first is exactly the same as the one you posted before and the second one >> (with L postfix) has only cut shadow on the left and is in 24x24 size... >> > Posting the svg version. For some reason, I experiment a slowdown on > Inkscape. > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Excellent, this is perfectly what I had in mind. No other comments. Thanks, Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Take a key pattern from the middle of the keyboard, as this part > tends to be shared by every latin layout at least. > > I'd have tried deeper keys, but maybe it reduces icon legibility > > Regards, > > Using number on top and alphabet on bottom. Comment? Luya -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: preferences-desktop-keyboard24.png Type: image/png Size: 1610 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: preferences-desktop-keyboardL.png Type: image/png Size: 1529 bytes Desc: not available URL: From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Wed Apr 4 08:19:54 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 01:19:54 -0700 Subject: New icons draft: menu editor, package manager (Pirut) In-Reply-To: <55474.192.54.193.51.1175673271.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <46134983.4000907@thefinalzone.com> <55474.192.54.193.51.1175673271.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <46135FAA.5090108@thefinalzone.com> Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le Mer 4 avril 2007 08:45, Luya Tshimbalanga a ?crit : > >> Just made a quick icons for menu editor and package manager based on >> current Echo version. In case of 24x24, they will be retouched with >> Gimp. More icons will come. >> > > Some remarks (I know I'm a pest): > Better get a remarks so it will be possible to track many issues as possible and fix as we can =) > 1. I don't like the menu editor icon at all. If you don't know it's a menu > editor, you won't guess : the menu part is difficult to distinguish, and > the pen is associated with writing text, not composing menus. I'd rework > the menu bit and remove the pen. Probably taking something like the > classic "add line in a table" icon as base. Right now at fist sight it > looks like yet another office/text editor icon. > It was an attempt to reproduce the current menu-editor icons available on FC6. I will rework it. > Generally speaking the isometric perspective echo chose makes this kind of > icon difficult to create, since it reduces the effective space and slants > common symbols. It works with 3d objects but not with 2d objects and > pictograms > > (Note: I'm typically using >= 100 dpi screens, and they'll only get more > common now Vista lifted the old 96dpi windows resolution clamping. That > means I may see have somewhat smaller pixels than you, with smaller icons) > > Ah ah. you use Microsoft Vista reference. =-O I will take account about the dpi in the future. > 2. I'd remove the CD & gray box on the second one (no idea if it's > supposed to be a PC tower case or a CD+manual box). The main > installation/update method is network nowadays, and almost no one gets his > Linux software in cardboard boxes. Maybe a pile of greyed-out closed > packages with one colorful open package in the foreground would work > better. > > I am considering using a Globe instead of CD. And yes, the grey box is a PC tower. Be in mind it is just a draft. Luya -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Wed Apr 4 08:29:53 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:29:53 +0200 (CEST) Subject: New icons draft: menu editor, package manager (Pirut) In-Reply-To: <46135FAA.5090108@thefinalzone.com> References: <46134983.4000907@thefinalzone.com> <55474.192.54.193.51.1175673271.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <46135FAA.5090108@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <13038.192.54.193.51.1175675393.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Mer 4 avril 2007 10:19, Luya Tshimbalanga a ?crit : > Ah ah. you use Microsoft Vista reference. =-O Nope :) I personnaly don't care about Vista at all. However the windows 96dpi limitation hack has been ported by X & GNOME people to the Linux desktop a few years ago, and they're resisted fixing it so far. Arguing that as long as Windows only knew 96dpi higher DPI hardware would't appear in numbers on the market. Now MS fixed their bug there's no excuse left to refuse considering screens with higher pixel density (OLPC is one) -- Nicolas Mailhot From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Wed Apr 4 08:32:21 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 10:32:21 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Keyboard icons In-Reply-To: <46135D54.5050605@thefinalzone.com> References: <460F6274.8080905@thefinalzone.com> <6e24a8e80704010508i25b456c1h2f8cf1fab118d8d9@mail.gmail.com> <4610DC1A.2060201@thefinalzone.com> <6e24a8e80704021219o5d427d6xe329118a48f2d07e@mail.gmail.com> <4613483E.1000303@thefinalzone.com> <6163.192.54.193.51.1175673482.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <46135D54.5050605@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <22966.192.54.193.51.1175675541.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Mer 4 avril 2007 10:09, Luya Tshimbalanga a ?crit : > Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> >> Please do not use qwerty keys as base. All the world is not qwerty, you >> know. Take a key pattern from the middle of the keyboard, as this part >> tends to be shared by every latin layout at least. >> >> I'd have tried deeper keys, but maybe it reduces icon legibility >> >> Regards, >> >> > Using number on top and alphabet on bottom. Comment? you lose, number row is another part that varies a lot between layouts ;) TY G or something in the same region should be fine -- Nicolas Mailhot From uno at webworks.se Wed Apr 4 10:19:17 2007 From: uno at webworks.se (Uno Engborg) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:19:17 +0200 Subject: New icons draft: menu editor, package manager (Pirut) In-Reply-To: <46135FAA.5090108@thefinalzone.com> References: <46134983.4000907@thefinalzone.com> <55474.192.54.193.51.1175673271.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <46135FAA.5090108@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <46137BA5.30101@webworks.se> Luya Tshimbalanga skrev: > Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> Le Mer 4 avril 2007 08:45, Luya Tshimbalanga a ?crit : >> >>> Just made a quick icons for menu editor and package manager based on >>> current Echo version. In case of 24x24, they will be retouched with >>> Gimp. More icons will come. >>> >> Some remarks (I know I'm a pest): >> > Better get a remarks so it will be possible to track many issues as > possible and fix as we can =) > >> 1. I don't like the menu editor icon at all. If you don't know it's a menu >> editor, you won't guess : the menu part is difficult to distinguish, and >> the pen is associated with writing text, not composing menus. I'd rework >> the menu bit and remove the pen. Probably taking something like the >> classic "add line in a table" icon as base. Right now at fist sight it >> looks like yet another office/text editor icon. >> > It was an attempt to reproduce the current menu-editor icons available > on FC6. > I will rework it. The problem is that the menu part looks too much like a document (and yes, the pen adds to that impression). A "add row in table" like icon could work. Another way could be to show some part of the menu bar, so that it became distinguishable from a document. 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The keyboard is similar to OLPC XO keyboard > for simplicity. > Currently available is 24x24 and 48x48 icons. The 16x16 will be 2D. > > > Luya > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markg85 at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 11:04:29 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 13:04:29 +0200 Subject: New icons draft: menu editor, package manager (Pirut) In-Reply-To: <46134983.4000907@thefinalzone.com> References: <46134983.4000907@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80704040404s5e140065t5a29a07a8b11eb3a@mail.gmail.com> that`s looking good good job. 2007/4/4, Luya Tshimbalanga : > > Just made a quick icons for menu editor and package manager based on > current Echo version. In case of 24x24, they will be retouched with > Gimp. 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Comment? > > you lose, number row is another part that varies a lot between layouts ;) > I really fail to see how resemblance or lack thereof of a 3-key icon to any real keyboard layout is relevant here. Are you claiming that people will not recognize the icon because it disagrees with their keyboard layout ? What is the point here ? From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Wed Apr 4 12:17:46 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 14:17:46 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Keyboard icons In-Reply-To: <1175687920.3165.1.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> References: <460F6274.8080905@thefinalzone.com> <6e24a8e80704010508i25b456c1h2f8cf1fab118d8d9@mail.gmail.com> <4610DC1A.2060201@thefinalzone.com> <6e24a8e80704021219o5d427d6xe329118a48f2d07e@mail.gmail.com> <4613483E.1000303@thefinalzone.com> <6163.192.54.193.51.1175673482.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <46135D54.5050605@thefinalzone.com> <22966.192.54.193.51.1175675541.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <1175687920.3165.1.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <27523.192.54.193.51.1175689066.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Mer 4 avril 2007 13:58, Matthias Clasen a ?crit : > On Wed, 2007-04-04 at 10:32 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > >> >> >> > Using number on top and alphabet on bottom. Comment? >> >> you lose, number row is another part that varies a lot between layouts >> ;) >> > > I really fail to see how resemblance or lack thereof of a 3-key icon > to any real keyboard layout is relevant here. Are you claiming that > people will not recognize the icon because it disagrees with their > keyboard layout ? What is the point here ? The first one was real bad because it was clearly qwerty?. Changing the last one is probably nitpicking ? and yes in countries not using qwerty anything that looks like hardcoded qwerty has very bad associations. Too many badly coded software reverting to qwerty at the worst time leave bad feelings -- Nicolas Mailhot From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Wed Apr 4 13:51:55 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 15:51:55 +0200 Subject: Keyboard icons In-Reply-To: <22966.192.54.193.51.1175675541.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <460F6274.8080905@thefinalzone.com> <6e24a8e80704010508i25b456c1h2f8cf1fab118d8d9@mail.gmail.com> <4610DC1A.2060201@thefinalzone.com> <6e24a8e80704021219o5d427d6xe329118a48f2d07e@mail.gmail.com> <4613483E.1000303@thefinalzone.com> <6163.192.54.193.51.1175673482.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <46135D54.5050605@thefinalzone.com> <22966.192.54.193.51.1175675541.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <4613AD7B.9050905@seznam.cz> Nicolas Mailhot napsal(a): > Le Mer 4 avril 2007 10:09, Luya Tshimbalanga a ?crit : >> Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >>> Please do not use qwerty keys as base. All the world is not qwerty, you >>> know. Take a key pattern from the middle of the keyboard, as this part >>> tends to be shared by every latin layout at least. >>> >>> I'd have tried deeper keys, but maybe it reduces icon legibility >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >> Using number on top and alphabet on bottom. Comment? > > you lose, number row is another part that varies a lot between layouts ;) > > TY > G > > or something in the same region should be fine > > You lose too... there is a number of qwertz keyboard layout, default Czech and Slovak included... There are so many layouts that it is impossible to have three keys in most of the layouts on their positions... But if I could suggest... I would use Dvorak layout [1], and in the middle of the home row... It could imply effectiveness... ;-) e.g. U I K References [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There are so many layouts that it is impossible to have three > keys in most of the layouts on their positions... But if I could suggest... I > would use Dvorak layout [1], and in the middle of the home row... It could imply > effectiveness... ;-) > > e.g. > U I > K > > References > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Or, maybe, it just come to my mind, you could use four keys and arrange them so that they would wield a name of the icon set, e.g. E H C O It wouldn't use any of the layouts yet it would have a meaning inside... Thanks, Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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These can be used to associate some meta-data with icons, like attachment points, and, more importantly for emblems, translated display names. Nautilus shows these names in the emblems dialog. It might be a good idea to simply copy these from the gnome-icon-theme. Matthias From markg85 at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 17:12:44 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 19:12:44 +0200 Subject: Keyboard icons In-Reply-To: <46135D54.5050605@thefinalzone.com> References: <460F6274.8080905@thefinalzone.com> <6e24a8e80704010508i25b456c1h2f8cf1fab118d8d9@mail.gmail.com> <4610DC1A.2060201@thefinalzone.com> <6e24a8e80704021219o5d427d6xe329118a48f2d07e@mail.gmail.com> <4613483E.1000303@thefinalzone.com> <6163.192.54.193.51.1175673482.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <46135D54.5050605@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80704041012u6760bb3ctf5ce4295a96c618c@mail.gmail.com> o.. even better (imho) try to make it look like this: http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus-concept/keyb_003.jpg don`t know if it will end up right. more images: http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus-concept/ some depth and shadows inside the keys must get in. 2007/4/4, Luya Tshimbalanga : > > Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Please do not use qwerty keys as base. All the world is not qwerty, you > know. Take a key pattern from the middle of the keyboard, as this part > tends to be shared by every latin layout at least. > > I'd have tried deeper keys, but maybe it reduces icon legibility > > Regards, > > Using number on top and alphabet on bottom. Comment? > > Luya > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I presume the emblem should be 24x24, right? > Another shortcoming with emblems is that there are no .icon files > in the echo-icon-theme package. These can be used to associate some > meta-data with icons, like attachment points, and, more importantly for > emblems, translated display names. Nautilus shows these names in the > emblems dialog. It might be a good idea to simply copy these from the > gnome-icon-theme. > > I am afraid I don't know very much about .icon files. The team will need help that issue. Luya From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Wed Apr 4 18:46:45 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:46:45 -0700 Subject: Keyboard icons In-Reply-To: <4613BBD2.8090306@seznam.cz> References: <460F6274.8080905@thefinalzone.com> <6e24a8e80704010508i25b456c1h2f8cf1fab118d8d9@mail.gmail.com> <4610DC1A.2060201@thefinalzone.com> <6e24a8e80704021219o5d427d6xe329118a48f2d07e@mail.gmail.com> <4613483E.1000303@thefinalzone.com> <6163.192.54.193.51.1175673482.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <46135D54.5050605@thefinalzone.com> <22966.192.54.193.51.1175675541.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <4613AD7B.9050905@seznam.cz> <4613BBD2.8090306@seznam.cz> Message-ID: <4613F295.1030404@thefinalzone.com> Martin Sourada wrote: > Martin Sourada napsal(a): > >> You lose too... there is a number of qwertz keyboard layout, default Czech and >> Slovak included... There are so many layouts that it is impossible to have three >> keys in most of the layouts on their positions... But if I could suggest... I >> would use Dvorak layout [1], and in the middle of the home row... It could imply >> effectiveness... ;-) >> >> e.g. >> U I >> K >> >> References >> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard >> >> > > Or, maybe, it just come to my mind, you could use four keys and arrange them so > that they would wield a name of the icon set, e.g. > > E H > C O > > Amazing how a simple layout caused some debates. Martin's suggestion seems reasonable. Here is a preview of the new keyboard layout. Any objection? Luya -- ??D0 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: preferences-desktop-keyboard24-a.png Type: image/png Size: 1615 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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E.g. the > 48x48/emblems in the gnome icon theme contains icons with sizes 32 (some > other sizes, too). Correct me if I am wrong here, Alex. > > Adding to the initial reply, Echo emblems have different sizes. The current package has not been updated to reflect the change. What will be nice is to get one of team members or package maintainers (either you or David) updating the index.xml using the tools J5 created[1]. I would like to do these task but I am already heavily taxed to get stock icons ready. Any taker? Sincerely, Luya [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoDevelopment From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Wed Apr 4 18:59:12 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:59:12 -0700 Subject: echo-icon-theme: gnome-devel icon draft In-Reply-To: <4613AEC2.8050302@seznam.cz> References: <460A822C.20202@seznam.cz> <6e24a8e80703280812x3b1ee531w224c2689f3b26dbc@mail.gmail.com> <33367.192.54.193.51.1175095604.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <9c3bfa1d0703281157h24a1b397gfea0cce79fc20ef5@mail.gmail.com> <1175110198.17719.2.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <460ADC7B.3000904@seznam.cz> <460EE502.7050406@seznam.cz> <460F61CC.8090205@thefinalzone.com> <460F78EB.5050007@seznam.cz> <460F7F59.2020706@thefinalzone.com> <4613AEC2.8050302@seznam.cz> Message-ID: <4613F580.4000605@thefinalzone.com> Martin Sourada wrote: > Some more work. See the attachment, now with 16x16 icon as well. > > They look good. No further comment. You can add it on EchoDevelopment wiki. Luya From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Wed Apr 4 19:14:29 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:14:29 -0700 Subject: New icons draft: menu editor, package manager (Pirut) In-Reply-To: <46137BA5.30101@webworks.se> References: <46134983.4000907@thefinalzone.com> <55474.192.54.193.51.1175673271.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <46135FAA.5090108@thefinalzone.com> <46137BA5.30101@webworks.se> Message-ID: <4613F915.7060400@thefinalzone.com> Uno Engborg wrote: > The problem is that the menu part looks too much like a document (and > yes, > the pen adds to that impression). A "add row in table" like icon > could work. > Another way could be to show some part of the menu bar, so that it became > distinguishable from a document. > Good idea. Here is an attempt. Luya -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That will add extras complexity on small sized icon. I will consider these in a future. Luya From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Wed Apr 4 19:37:17 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 21:37:17 +0200 Subject: New icons draft: menu editor, package manager (Pirut) In-Reply-To: <4613F915.7060400@thefinalzone.com> References: <46134983.4000907@thefinalzone.com> <55474.192.54.193.51.1175673271.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <46135FAA.5090108@thefinalzone.com> <46137BA5.30101@webworks.se> <4613F915.7060400@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <1175715437.19486.10.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le mercredi 04 avril 2007 ? 12:14 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga a ?crit : > Uno Engborg wrote: > > The problem is that the menu part looks too much like a document (and > > yes, > > the pen adds to that impression). A "add row in table" like icon > > could work. > > Another way could be to show some part of the menu bar, so that it became > > distinguishable from a document. > > > Good idea. Here is an attempt. Much better. Maybe you can remove the blue tinge from the background menu slab? Echo is more than a little heavy on blue already. I suspect when the theme is complete reviewers will ask to re-paint some icons to avoid a monochrome effect -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Martin's suggestion > seems reasonable. Here is a preview of the new keyboard layout. Any > objection? > > > Luya > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Agreed :-) Did you try for the 16x16 icon a straight perspective? It seems now too blurry/complex IMO (only the 16x16 one). Otherwise it looks great. Thanks, Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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See the attachment, now with 16x16 icon as well. >> >> > They look good. No further comment. You can add it on EchoDevelopment wiki. > > Luya > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > I suppose the application-development icon one EchoDevelopment wiki is the same? Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I noticed the same on other items as well. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Wed Apr 4 21:53:56 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 17:53:56 -0400 Subject: Keyboard icons In-Reply-To: <46140A7D.2090804@seznam.cz> References: <460F6274.8080905@thefinalzone.com> <6e24a8e80704010508i25b456c1h2f8cf1fab118d8d9@mail.gmail.com> <4610DC1A.2060201@thefinalzone.com> <6e24a8e80704021219o5d427d6xe329118a48f2d07e@mail.gmail.com> <4613483E.1000303@thefinalzone.com> <6163.192.54.193.51.1175673482.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <46135D54.5050605@thefinalzone.com> <22966.192.54.193.51.1175675541.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <4613AD7B.9050905@seznam.cz> <4613BBD2.8090306@seznam.cz> <4613F295.1030404@thefinalzone.com> <46140A7D.2090804@seznam.cz> Message-ID: <1175723636.46141e744b47e@ssl.mecca.ca> Quoting Martin Sourada : > Agreed :-) > Did you try for the 16x16 icon a straight perspective? It seems now too > blurry/complex IMO (only the 16x16 one). Otherwise it looks great. > > Thanks, > Martin > I am working on it. I might replaced them with other text to reduce complexity. Now that the consensus is reached, I will develop a derived icons such as shortcut and character input. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Thu Apr 5 16:44:25 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 18:44:25 +0200 Subject: Echo Cursors: Initial gallery page created Message-ID: <46152769.8070107@seznam.cz> Hi, I created initial gallery page for Echo cursors [1]. The NamingSpec [2] seem complete enough, yet they still need much work, but that can be done parallel to making the cursors. So, let the fun begin. I would appreciate if everyone with an idea add a draft of the cursor theme to a Draft section on EchoCursors wiki [3]. So that we can choose the best and finally start making a theme. Ben, could you make some digital versions of your sketches? It would be great to see how it looks in color, and how it works on screen... I am especially interested in the crossed circle and double arrow at the bottom of your sketch. :-) Thanks Martin References: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoCursors/Development [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoCursors/NamingSpec [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoCursors -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It would be great to > see how it looks in color, and how it works on screen... I am especially > interested in the crossed circle and double arrow at the bottom of your sketch. :-) Sure; I have been away for these past couple of days and am working the next couple during my Easter break but will crack on with them from Sunday*. > Thanks > Martin Thanks for your efforts! ./ben * - along with all the other crap that builds up after days off! :-p -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From baerjj at gmail.com Sat Apr 7 17:13:30 2007 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 13:13:30 -0400 Subject: The FUG Pilot Message-ID: <1175966010.3809.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> All, Some time back I suggested there may be value in creating a web page which mimics the Firefox default Google page. To test this concept I put something together a page on a site I titled fedoraUnderground ( fug ) for your consideration. In addition to quick links to many Fedora sites of interest, the page hosts a customized Google search (emphasis on fedora) and links to last-fm, flickr, and youtube. My thoughts are if folks would spread the word I would track the hits up to Fc7 release. http://wiki.fugorg.com/411/ Cheers, John From markg85 at gmail.com Sun Apr 8 21:32:28 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 23:32:28 +0200 Subject: Perhaps another GDM login screen? Message-ID: <6e24a8e80704081432u417df78ak56dd2cd021625ad8@mail.gmail.com> Hey, i`m using the Fedora core 7 rawhile releases for some time now (since Test 1) and i saw a few GDM screens pass by.. i really like the current flying high theme and all the fancy stuff that`s in the wallpaper itself but i just wonder if this background of flying high is a little to filled up.. specially for the GDM. so i`m wondering.. could it be possible to add a little less busy and clean background to : GDM, KDM, Gnome and KDE (and all other places where the wallpaper is being used). i don`t really have a proposal for a good and clean wallpaper but i`m sure you all know what i mean. this one: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JohnBaer "Current GDM Login" is one of my favorites at this moment. And a question for Diana. @diana. how did you make the flying high wallpaper? some details please.. Thanx. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll have to look at it when I get back from Brazil on Tuesday. -- John (J5) Palmieri From mclasen at redhat.com Fri Apr 13 12:29:36 2007 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:29:36 +0200 Subject: Need assistance for echo-pull application In-Reply-To: <1176464811.3321.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1176464811.3321.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1176467376.3002.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 07:46 -0400, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 04:05 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > > I attempted to use echo-pull[1] for updating to the newest icons. It > > appears the icons are broken even thought the download is completed. > > > > J5, could you fix the issues? > > I'll have to look at it when I get back from Brazil on Tuesday. > I have a patched version that I used for the last few snapshots. I'll post it when I have more than 5 minutes of free time, maybe tonight From mclasen at redhat.com Fri Apr 13 21:20:00 2007 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:20:00 +0200 Subject: Need assistance for echo-pull application In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1176499200.3002.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 04:05 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > I attempted to use echo-pull[1] for updating to the newest icons. It > appears the icons are broken even thought the download is completed. > > J5, could you fix the issues? > Here is the patch that I needed to make echo_pull.py work with the current wiki. Matthias -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Frields) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:41:43 -0400 Subject: W.I.P. - "rpmbox" as a replacement for the "package-x-generic" In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80704141402q324a98eag7e2229e4c9b33b34@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80704141402q324a98eag7e2229e4c9b33b34@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1176687703.16952.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 23:02 +0200, Mark wrote: > Hey, > > i kinda dislike the current rpm box so i made one myself. i`ve spend a > few hours on it and i think it looks good so far. > here is the image: > http://img66.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rpmboxte7.png > that image is meant as a replacement for this image: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoDevelopment?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=package-x-genericL.png > > i think the current one simply doesn`t fit the icon theme. > make no mistake.. i like the icon in general, but not in combination > with the rest of Echo. > > comments and critics on my w.i.p. image please. 1. The needle is too thin and won't show up in small sizes. 2. Why change the typography away from the existing logo? 3. The box design is unfortunately reminiscent of the shape of a new product box from some other O/S vendor 4. I'm not sure the overall color complements the rest of Echo. -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The box design is unfortunately reminiscent of the shape of a new > product box from some other O/S vendor no your kidding me ^_- i changed the shape a little on purposs so that i don`t have the exact same box shape.. furthermore it`s just a wip image.. i might completely redo the idea with another idea. also it`s not made in vector graphics.. (can`t do that yet) so if in some stage anyone wants to implant it in the Echo theme they will probably need to "convert" it or remake it in SVG. expect a new wip soon (today or tomorrow) Thanx for the reply`s so far. 2007/4/16, Paul W. Frields : > > On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 23:02 +0200, Mark wrote: > > Hey, > > > > i kinda dislike the current rpm box so i made one myself. i`ve spend a > > few hours on it and i think it looks good so far. > > here is the image: > > http://img66.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rpmboxte7.png > > that image is meant as a replacement for this image: > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoDevelopment?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=package-x-genericL.png > > > > i think the current one simply doesn`t fit the icon theme. > > make no mistake.. i like the icon in general, but not in combination > > with the rest of Echo. > > > > comments and critics on my w.i.p. image please. > > 1. The needle is too thin and won't show up in small sizes. > 2. Why change the typography away from the existing logo? > 3. The box design is unfortunately reminiscent of the shape of a new > product box from some other O/S vendor > 4. I'm not sure the overall color complements the rest of Echo. > > -- > Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > Fedora Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mclasen at redhat.com Tue Apr 17 02:18:48 2007 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:18:48 +0200 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage Message-ID: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Today I looked at shipping svgs with echo-icon-theme to improve the coverage and avoid size gaps where we don't have hand-tuned small sizes yet. Unfortunately, doing this blows up the size of the tarball to 70M (after bzipping !). Looking at some of the large (>500k) icons, I notice a couple of things: a) they seem to mostly be created with Illustrator b) they include a jpeg thumbnail c) they include a huge binary chunk called It would be very valuable if someone could work on a little script to get rid of the thumbnails and the illustrator-specific stuff. That should allow us to shrink the svgs _a lot_ and make it possible to include them in the package, which is not possible as things stand right now. Matthias From fedora-art at brej.org Mon Apr 16 22:23:16 2007 From: fedora-art at brej.org (Charlie Brej) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:23:16 +0100 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> Matthias Clasen wrote: > It would be very valuable if someone could work on a little script to > get rid of the thumbnails and the illustrator-specific stuff. That > should allow us to shrink the svgs _a lot_ and make it possible to > include them in the package, which is not possible as things stand right > now. I wrote the script you asked for. It removes the following elements: i:pgf (where the ID is "adobe_illustrator_pgf"), i:pgfRef and x:xmpmeta. Attached is a trimmed version of one of the icons (416k to 18k) . 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That > > should allow us to shrink the svgs _a lot_ and make it possible to > > include them in the package, which is not possible as things stand right > > now. > > I wrote the script you asked for. It removes the following elements: > i:pgf (where the ID is "adobe_illustrator_pgf"), i:pgfRef and x:xmpmeta. > Attached is a trimmed version of one of the icons (416k to 18k) . People > should check it works on their svg tool before you start compressing icons. Thanks, that looks encouraging. From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Tue Apr 17 06:07:09 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:07:09 -0400 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> Message-ID: <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> Quoting Charlie Brej : > Matthias Clasen wrote: > > It would be very valuable if someone could work on a little script to > > get rid of the thumbnails and the illustrator-specific stuff. That > > should allow us to shrink the svgs _a lot_ and make it possible to > > include them in the package, which is not possible as things stand right > > now. > > I wrote the script you asked for. It removes the following elements: > i:pgf (where the ID is "adobe_illustrator_pgf"), i:pgfRef and x:xmpmeta. > Attached is a trimmed version of one of the icons (416k to 18k) . People > should check it works on their svg tool before you start compressing icons. > Thank you. I will try it later. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Tue Apr 17 06:19:20 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:19:20 -0400 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1176790760.462466e838c98@ssl.mecca.ca> Quoting Matthias Clasen : > Today I looked at shipping svgs with echo-icon-theme to improve the > coverage and avoid size gaps where we don't have hand-tuned small sizes > yet. > Great. That should reduce some tasks until these svgs icons have their own png small size. I am also considering some of them (especially the 24x24 who are identical to their larger formats). > Unfortunately, doing this blows up the size of the tarball to 70M (after > bzipping !). Looking at some of the large (>500k) icons, I notice a > couple of things: > > a) they seem to mostly be created with Illustrator > > b) they include a jpeg thumbnail > Surprising. Maybe converting them using Gimp should do the trick. > c) they include a huge binary chunk called > > Which explains longer loading page. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga From mclasen at redhat.com Tue Apr 17 05:28:08 2007 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:28:08 +0200 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> Message-ID: <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 02:07 -0400, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Quoting Charlie Brej : > > > Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > It would be very valuable if someone could work on a little script to > > > get rid of the thumbnails and the illustrator-specific stuff. That > > > should allow us to shrink the svgs _a lot_ and make it possible to > > > include them in the package, which is not possible as things stand right > > > now. > > > > I wrote the script you asked for. It removes the following elements: > > i:pgf (where the ID is "adobe_illustrator_pgf"), i:pgfRef and x:xmpmeta. > > Attached is a trimmed version of one of the icons (416k to 18k) . People > > should check it works on their svg tool before you start compressing icons. > > > > Thank you. I will try it later. > I've used Charlies script and included svgs in yesterdays echo snapshot. Please give it a try. From tshimulu at gmail.com Wed Apr 18 07:36:41 2007 From: tshimulu at gmail.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:36:41 -0700 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4625CA89.5030200@gmail.com> Matthias Clasen wrote: > I've used Charlies script and included svgs in yesterdays echo snapshot. > Please give it a try. > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > It work well. I wish the script allows the ability to directly save the modification instead of the copy and paste. Idon't know much about perl though. Luya From markg85 at gmail.com Wed Apr 18 14:08:01 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:08:01 +0200 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <4625CA89.5030200@gmail.com> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4625CA89.5030200@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80704180708j44789b9bxf74465ca2bacecc7@mail.gmail.com> i can make that in php ^_^ so perl must be able to do it aswell. in php i would use file_get_contents() to read the file and file_put_contents() to put it back in a file. good luck. Mark 2007/4/18, Luya Tshimbalanga : > > Matthias Clasen wrote: > > I've used Charlies script and included svgs in yesterdays echo snapshot. > > Please give it a try. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > It work well. I wish the script allows the ability to directly save the > modification instead of the copy and paste. Idon't know much about perl > though. > > > Luya > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've included the updated version that does this. I generally use pipes and a bash line script which makes copies (because there are often accidents overwriting originals). You could do something like this: mkdir done; for SVG in *.svg; do cat "$SVG" | trim_svg.pl > "done/$SVG" ; done; But the new version will accept command line filename arguments which will be overwritten. e.g. trim_svg.pl *.svg -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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I noticed it for example for the > cut, copy and paste icons. Is there any way how to check (other than opening all > the icons, one by one, and manualy checking which one are problematic) which > ones exactly suffer this problem, so that we could easier fix it? > > Thanks, > Martin > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Well, and that's not the only problems. Some of the svg icons aren't displayed at all (e.g. folder-remote) and some are displayed wrongly - see the attached selections from screen-shot. There is far more problems than that - these are just a quick random selection. I try to summarize the problems I saw so far in some points: 1. some icons are not square-sized (e.g. cut, paste, copy) 2. some icons are not displayed correctly (e.g. cut - the scissors) 3. some icons are not displayed at all (e.g. folder-remote) 4. most svg icons look slightly different from their png counterparts (IMO, mostly because inkscape lacked blur feature in the past) 5. gnome seems to prefer svgs over pngs even in big sizes (e.g. in nautilus). Does it display them in bigger size than 48x48? BUT, apart from these problems the idea with including SVGs is very good, most of the icons without the problems listed above really improved their look in small sizes. Thanks, Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there any way how to check (other than opening all > the icons, one by one, and manualy checking which one are problematic) which > ones exactly suffer this problem, so that we could easier fix it? > > Thanks, > Martin > Run as: ./find_nonsq_svg.pl *.svg -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: find_nonsq_svg.pl URL: From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Wed Apr 18 20:41:16 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:41:16 +0200 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> Message-ID: <4626826C.4040908@seznam.cz> I forgot the attachment - so I added it [2] on my personal wiki [1]. Thanks, Martin References [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=echo-svg-problems.png Martin Sourada napsal(a): > Martin Sourada napsal(a): >> Matthias Clasen napsal(a): >>> I've used Charlies script and included svgs in yesterdays echo snapshot. >>> Please give it a try. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fedora-art-list mailing list >>> Fedora-art-list at redhat.com >>> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list >>> >> >> Hi, all >> >> I just updated the echo icon set and discovered that not all svgs have square >> dimensions, so they look a little stretched. I noticed it for example for the >> cut, copy and paste icons. Is there any way how to check (other than opening all >> the icons, one by one, and manualy checking which one are problematic) which >> ones exactly suffer this problem, so that we could easier fix it? >> >> Thanks, >> Martin >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-art-list mailing list >> Fedora-art-list at redhat.com >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > Well, and that's not the only problems. Some of the svg icons aren't displayed > at all (e.g. folder-remote) and some are displayed wrongly - see the attached > selections from screen-shot. There is far more problems than that - these are > just a quick random selection. > > I try to summarize the problems I saw so far in some points: > 1. some icons are not square-sized (e.g. cut, paste, copy) > 2. some icons are not displayed correctly (e.g. cut - the scissors) > 3. some icons are not displayed at all (e.g. folder-remote) > 4. most svg icons look slightly different from their png counterparts (IMO, > mostly because inkscape lacked blur feature in the past) > 5. gnome seems to prefer svgs over pngs even in big sizes (e.g. in nautilus). > Does it display them in bigger size than 48x48? > > BUT, apart from these problems the idea with including SVGs is very good, most > of the icons without the problems listed above really improved their look in > small sizes. > > Thanks, > Martin > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 249 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Wed Apr 18 21:07:45 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:07:45 +0200 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <46267B8A.7010108@brej.org> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267B8A.7010108@brej.org> Message-ID: <462688A1.8060907@seznam.cz> Charlie Brej napsal(a): > Martin Sourada wrote: > > Hi, all >> >> I just updated the echo icon set and discovered that not all svgs have >> square >> dimensions, so they look a little stretched. I noticed it for example >> for the >> cut, copy and paste icons. Is there any way how to check (other than >> opening all >> the icons, one by one, and manualy checking which one are problematic) >> which >> ones exactly suffer this problem, so that we could easier fix it? >> >> Thanks, >> Martin >> > > Run as: > ./find_nonsq_svg.pl *.svg > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Thanks for the script. The list is far longer than I hoped (nearly 180 icons!) :-(, so I attach it [1] rather than listing it here directly. I hope I didn't miss any icon/symbolic link, since I took the current source rpm package and manually deleted all links and then ran the script on it. Thanks, Martin Attachments: [1] nonsq.log -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80704181510o31c6b17dk403bb2ec72fa751b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80704181510o31c6b17dk403bb2ec72fa751b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80704181511w79186ae2ub38c0426843a91f8@mail.gmail.com> btw.. they come in the nautilus source files.. you can see them here: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/nautilus/trunk/icons/appicon/32x32/ 2007/4/19, Mark : > > Hey, > > i always press nautilus when i actually want to press kate or gedit > (asuming they are opened in the taskbar).. simply because they all have > almost the same look. > Nautilus comes with a good looking clean icon and even a .svg image so why > not use that one for the Echo icon theme? > > attached is the icon in png and svg format > > Mark. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Apr 19 06:14:06 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:14:06 +0300 Subject: Why not use the default nautilus icon as the file manager icon? In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80704181510o31c6b17dk403bb2ec72fa751b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80704181510o31c6b17dk403bb2ec72fa751b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <462708AE.3020308@nicubunu.ro> Mark wrote: > Hey, > > i always press nautilus when i actually want to press kate or gedit > (asuming they are opened in the taskbar).. simply because they all have > almost the same look. > Nautilus comes with a good looking clean icon and even a .svg image so > why not use that one for the Echo icon theme? Let me quote from the GNOME HiG to explain why the default Nautilus icon is bad and is wise to replace it: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/icons-design.html > Avoid name suggestive icons. Some icons, such as the Nautilus icon, do > not suggest the program's purpose, but instead suggest the program's > name. This is less desirable than a functionally suggestive icon, > because an extra layer of abstraction is added (rather than > associating file management with an icon representing files, they have > to associate file management with nautilus with an image of a > nautilus shell). Additionally it makes it difficult for new users who > may not know what "Nautilus" is, and hence will not recognize a shell > icon as the file manager. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From markg85 at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 07:12:09 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:12:09 +0200 Subject: Why not use the default nautilus icon as the file manager icon? In-Reply-To: <462708AE.3020308@nicubunu.ro> References: <6e24a8e80704181510o31c6b17dk403bb2ec72fa751b@mail.gmail.com> <462708AE.3020308@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80704190012l472e5569pa37a3ed7da1a246e@mail.gmail.com> oke that cleared it up. thanx for the reply. 2007/4/19, Nicu Buculei : > > Mark wrote: > > Hey, > > > > i always press nautilus when i actually want to press kate or gedit > > (asuming they are opened in the taskbar).. simply because they all have > > almost the same look. > > Nautilus comes with a good looking clean icon and even a .svg image so > > why not use that one for the Echo icon theme? > > Let me quote from the GNOME HiG to explain why the default Nautilus icon > is bad and is wise to replace it: > > http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/icons-design.html > > > Avoid name suggestive icons. Some icons, such as the Nautilus icon, do > > not suggest the program's purpose, but instead suggest the program's > > name. This is less desirable than a functionally suggestive icon, > > because an extra layer of abstraction is added (rather than > > associating file management with an icon representing files, they have > > to associate file management with nautilus with an image of a > > nautilus shell). Additionally it makes it difficult for new users who > > may not know what "Nautilus" is, and hence will not recognize a shell > > icon as the file manager. > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cordially. - -- Guillaume Kulakowski French Fedora Ambassador Webmaster of the French Fedora Core related website Jabber : llaumgui at jabber.ru MSN Messenger : llaumgui at hotmail.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGJ3HAGL+mH11RLJcRAh8MAJ0QzE58yMK8N9VMMSJFQAc7xDUAkgCdGL9x 5/gGzgzwEym1/fXUrJ6kDJ4= =si5k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From tshimulu at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 18:02:55 2007 From: tshimulu at gmail.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:02:55 -0700 Subject: Firefox and Thunderbird Echo theme ? In-Reply-To: <462771C0.60301@fedoraproject.org> References: <462771C0.60301@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4627AECF.10101@gmail.com> Guillaume Kulakowski wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to know if a skin for Firefox and Thunderbird using the > Echo guideline were envisaged ? > > Cordially. The skin for both Firefox and Thunderbird is planned but it is not ready yet. At the moment, the focus is on the development of Eco icons and cursors. Once they will be completed, we will focus on specific applications. Regards. From mclasen at redhat.com Thu Apr 19 18:25:20 2007 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:25:20 -0400 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 13:49 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > Well, and that's not the only problems. Some of the svg icons aren't displayed > > at all (e.g. folder-remote) and some are displayed wrongly - see the attached > > selections from screen-shot. There is far more problems than that - these are > > just a quick random selection. > > > The problem is from svg created with Adobe Illustrator. > Not really. e.g. for the problem with the blue circles in the volume icons, it looks as if librsvg does not scale a clip mask thats used there. Inkscape doesn't seem to have that problem. Anyway, looking at the various problems, it seems that including the svgs is not the quick improvement that I hoped it would be, and we need to look at a) stripping the svgs again (of course, getting them in a form that can be included should still be a medium-term goal, including filing bugs against librsvg, etc) b) switching back to Clearlooks/Bluecurve as the icon theme for F7 final. Matthias From tshimulu at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 18:51:15 2007 From: tshimulu at gmail.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:51:15 -0700 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4627BA23.3070606@gmail.com> Matthias Clasen wrote: >> Not really. e.g. for the problem with the blue circles in the volume >> icons, it looks as if librsvg does not scale a clip mask thats used >> there. Inkscape doesn't seem to have that problem. >> >> I also noticed a problem with gradient when importing a svg made from Illustrator. > Anyway, looking at the various problems, it seems that including the > svgs is not the quick improvement that I hoped it would be, and we need > to look at > > a) stripping the svgs again (of course, getting them in a form that can > be included should still be a medium-term goal, including filing bugs > against librsvg, etc) > Make sense. We should make sure to back the original in case the stripped svg goes wrong. > b) switching back to Clearlooks/Bluecurve as the icon theme for F7 > final. > > Looks like that will be the last resort. -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Art Team Fedora Project contributor From mclasen at redhat.com Thu Apr 19 18:56:58 2007 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:56:58 -0400 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <4627BA23.3070606@gmail.com> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <4627BA23.3070606@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1177009018.14565.7.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 11:51 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > > > Looks like that will be the last resort. > Yes, but we are at the point in time where we have to make that decision. I am supposed to make a recommendation by tomorrow... I have asked around a bit in the office, and so far got a number of opinions: a) Keep Echo, good enough b) Go back to Clearlooks/Bluecurve, boring but known to work c) Switch to gnome, which has the advantage of being the upstream default, so it kind of fits with the Fedora "upstream" mantra d) Switch to Mist, which is a variant of the gnome icon theme, so it has good coverage, but it has some nice variations which seem to go well with Clearlooks From duffy at redhat.com Thu Apr 19 19:00:23 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:00:23 -0400 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <1177009018.14565.7.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <4627BA23.3070606@gmail.com> <1177009018.14565.7.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4627BC47.5040909@redhat.com> Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 11:51 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > >>> >> Looks like that will be the last resort. >> > > Yes, but we are at the point in time where we have to make that > decision. I am supposed to make a recommendation by tomorrow... > > I have asked around a bit in the office, and so far got a number > of opinions: > > a) Keep Echo, good enough > > b) Go back to Clearlooks/Bluecurve, boring but known to work > > c) Switch to gnome, which has the advantage of being the upstream > default, so it kind of fits with the Fedora "upstream" mantra > > d) Switch to Mist, which is a variant of the gnome icon theme, so > it has good coverage, but it has some nice variations which seem > to go well with Clearlooks I wonder why Tango is not an option? Or is that upstream, choice c? ~m From mclasen at redhat.com Thu Apr 19 19:04:56 2007 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:04:56 -0400 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <4627BC47.5040909@redhat.com> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <4627BA23.3070606@gmail.com> <1177009018.14565.7.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <4627BC47.5040909@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1177009496.14565.10.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 15:00 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > I wonder why Tango is not an option? Or is that upstream, choice c? I didn't exclude anything, just point out the opinions that I have heard so far. I'll also point out that gnome, Mist and Tango all have the problem that we need to do extra surgery to get the fedora logo in the panel, which is already solved for Echo and Bluecurve. Personally, I think that Mist looks nice, and might be a nice option. From duffy at redhat.com Thu Apr 19 19:12:50 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:12:50 -0400 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <1177009496.14565.10.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <4627BA23.3070606@gmail.com> <1177009018.14565.7.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <4627BC47.5040909@redhat.com> <1177009496.14565.10.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4627BF32.3090401@redhat.com> Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 15:00 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> I wonder why Tango is not an option? Or is that upstream, choice c? > I didn't exclude anything, just point out the opinions that I have heard > so far. Fair enough. I'm not actually sure if Tango is the default in upstream GNOME now so I wasn't sure. > I'll also point out that gnome, Mist and Tango all have the > problem that we need to do extra surgery to get the fedora logo in the > panel, which is already solved for Echo and Bluecurve. Ah okay. If there is anything we can do to help with that let us know; I am not sure what is involved. > Personally, I think that Mist looks nice, and might be a nice option. Yeh I agree, it looks quite nice. ~m From mclasen at redhat.com Thu Apr 19 19:13:55 2007 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:13:55 -0400 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <4627BF32.3090401@redhat.com> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <4627BA23.3070606@gmail.com> <1177009018.14565.7.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <4627BC47.5040909@redhat.com> <1177009496.14565.10.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <4627BF32.3090401@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1177010035.14565.12.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 15:12 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 15:00 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> I wonder why Tango is not an option? Or is that upstream, choice c? > > > I didn't exclude anything, just point out the opinions that I have heard > > so far. > > Fair enough. I'm not actually sure if Tango is the default in upstream > GNOME now so I wasn't sure. The upstream default is the gnome icon theme. From nisses.mail at home.se Thu Apr 19 21:53:24 2007 From: nisses.mail at home.se (Andreas Nilsson) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 23:53:24 +0200 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <1177009496.14565.10.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <4627BA23.3070606@gmail.com> <1177009018.14565.7.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <4627BC47.5040909@redhat.com> <1177009496.14565.10.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4627E4D4.7050607@home.se> Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 15:00 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > >> I wonder why Tango is not an option? Or is that upstream, choice c? >> > > > I didn't exclude anything, just point out the opinions that I have heard > so far. I'll also point out that gnome, Mist and Tango all have the > problem that we need to do extra surgery to get the fedora logo in the > panel, which is already solved for Echo and Bluecurve. > Hi Matthias! "start-here" in the naming-spec [1] is intended for distro-logos, although I'm not 100% sure if the panel currently use that or not. You should be able to just patch gnome-icon-theme or Mist and put the fedora logo instead of the gnome-foot in there instead, or create a icon-theme with just the start-here icon and have that inherent, say Mist. Here is a fedora-logo that Stephen Brandt did [2,3,4,5] that goes well together with g-i-t/Mist (and tango-icon-theme). 1. http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html 2. http://www.stephenbrandt.com/tango-icons/fedora/fedora16.png 3. http://www.stephenbrandt.com/tango-icons/fedora/fedora22.png 4. http://www.stephenbrandt.com/tango-icons/fedora/fedora32.png 5. http://www.stephenbrandt.com/tango-icons/fedora/fedora.svg - Andreas From mclasen at redhat.com Fri Apr 20 00:53:03 2007 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:53:03 -0400 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <4627E4D4.7050607@home.se> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <4627BA23.3070606@gmail.com> <1177009018.14565.7.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <4627BC47.5040909@redhat.com> <1177009496.14565.10.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <4627E4D4.7050607@home.se> Message-ID: <1177030383.2974.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 23:53 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 15:00 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > > > > >> I wonder why Tango is not an option? Or is that upstream, choice c? > >> > > > > > > I didn't exclude anything, just point out the opinions that I have heard > > so far. I'll also point out that gnome, Mist and Tango all have the > > problem that we need to do extra surgery to get the fedora logo in the > > panel, which is already solved for Echo and Bluecurve. > > > Hi Matthias! > "start-here" in the naming-spec [1] is intended for distro-logos, > although I'm not 100% sure if the panel currently use that or not. > You should be able to just patch gnome-icon-theme or Mist and put the > fedora logo instead of the gnome-foot in there instead, or create a > icon-theme with just the start-here icon and have that inherent, say Mist. > Here is a fedora-logo that Stephen Brandt did [2,3,4,5] that goes well > together with g-i-t/Mist (and tango-icon-theme). > Sure, I know how to do it, just pointing out the need to do it. From tshimulu at gmail.com Fri Apr 20 07:45:35 2007 From: tshimulu at gmail.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:45:35 -0700 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <46286F9F.4070102@gmail.com> Using the xml editor from Inkscape, it turned out some of shape were hidden which explains some issues displayed by Martin Sourada[1]. For example, preference-desktop-accessibility.svg contains junk from Adobe Illustrator. After cleaning unnecessary inside and removing non svg tag (except the one named sodipodi or inkscape) using XML editor, the duplicated polygon went away. I included the original icon with the cleaned version (end with R). The trick is from Inkscape FAQ[2] [1]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada [2]http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ#I_exported_an_SVG_file_from_Adobe_Illustrator.2C_edited_it_in_Inkscape.2C_and_imported_back_to_AI.2C_but_there_my_changes_are_lost.21 -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Art Team -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: preferences-desktop-accessibilityL.svg Type: image/svg+xml Size: 9849 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The workaround is to delete empty space inside then save the svg whic should restore the visibility. -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Art Team Fedora Project contributor From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Fri Apr 20 08:24:35 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 01:24:35 -0700 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <46286F9F.4070102@gmail.com> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <46286F9F.4070102@gmail.com> Message-ID: <462878C3.30007@thefinalzone.com> I forgot to include the modified trim_svg.pl . Charles, could you check why the script failed to restore visibility on one of Echo icon? -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Art Team Fedora Project contributor -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I narrowed down the problem to Adobe Illustrator wanting to put "svg:" in front of most tags (but only in some icons). Inkscape can deal with it but gimp/nautilus/eog can't. There are some 20 effected icons but the new version of the script corrects this. It goes through and removes all the svg: from the front of tags. Another problem I found is that gimp also ignores the visibility attrib and displays the hidden objects anyway. This can be seen in preferences-desktop-accessibilityL.svg where the old wheelchair object is still visible over the new icon. You can search for these using: > grep -l display=\"none\" *.svg Usually these are just temporary items left behind while creating the image, but better make sure they didnt come to the foreground within the frame. From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Fri Apr 20 16:30:04 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:30:04 +0200 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <4628A786.7080906@brej.org> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <46286F9F.4070102@gmail.com> <462878C3.30007@thefinalzone.com> <4628A786.7080906@brej.org> Message-ID: <1177086604.4713.2.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le vendredi 20 avril 2007 ? 12:44 +0100, Charlie Brej a ?crit : > Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > > I forgot to include the modified trim_svg.pl . Charles, could you check > > why the script failed to restore visibility on one of Echo icon? > > The I have just noticed that some icons refused to show up on my system. > I narrowed down the problem to Adobe Illustrator wanting to put "svg:" > in front of most tags (but only in some icons). Inkscape can deal with > it but gimp/nautilus/eog can't. There are some 20 effected icons but the > new version of the script corrects this. It goes through and removes all > the svg: from the front of tags. Means one of the tools is broken. You should never hand-remove namespaces in XML unless you know what you're doing. They're no here for show. Did you validate the result at least ? -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've also changed the default icon theme away from Echo for test4. Matthias From stevelist at silverorange.com Fri Apr 20 17:38:11 2007 From: stevelist at silverorange.com (Steven Garrity) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:38:11 -0300 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <1177087545.10513.1.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <46286F9F.4070102@gmail.com> <462878C3.30007@thefinalzone.com> <4628A786.7080906@brej.org> <1177086604.4713.2.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <1177087545.10513.1.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4628FA83.5060609@silverorange.com> Matthias Clasen wrote: > quick update: I've removed the svgs from echo-icon-theme again for now, > until the problems are resolved. I've also changed the default icon > theme away from Echo for test4. What did it change to? Cheers, Steven Garrity From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Fri Apr 20 17:41:18 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:41:18 -0700 Subject: About svg tag In-Reply-To: <4628A786.7080906@brej.org> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <46286F9F.4070102@gmail.com> <462878C3.30007@thefinalzone.com> <4628A786.7080906@brej.org> Message-ID: <4628FB3E.901@thefinalzone.com> Charlie Brej wrote: > > The I have just noticed that some icons refused to show up on my > system. I narrowed down the problem to Adobe Illustrator wanting to > put "svg:" in front of most tags (but only in some icons). Inkscape > can deal with it but gimp/nautilus/eog can't. There are some 20 > effected icons but the new version of the script corrects this. It > goes through and removes all the svg: from the front of tags. You made the mistake of removing all svg:tags. They are essential to create the image. Read my post on http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-April/msg00095.html and http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ#I_exported_an_SVG_file_from_Adobe_Illustrator.2C_edited_it_in_Inkscape.2C_and_imported_back_to_AI.2C_but_there_my_changes_are_lost.21 > > Another problem I found is that gimp also ignores the visibility > attrib and displays the hidden objects anyway. This can be seen in > preferences-desktop-accessibilityL.svg where the old wheelchair object > is still visible over the new icon. You can search for these using: > > grep -l display=\"none\" *.svg > Usually these are just temporary items left behind while creating the > image, but better make sure they didnt come to the foreground within > the frame. > I think you have found a bug inside your script. Compare with preferences-desktop-accessibilityR.svg I posted[1] and observe the change. The trick is to remove Remove only non svg: such as inside along with extras space and manually remove unneccesary inside . Highlight one faulty to spot the bogus layer in Inkscape image to remove it. Save it with Inkscape. That should restore the foreground. The method may be long but it works. So far, I have fixed my own software-update svgs updated this way. I will be able to post the change on the wiki later tonight. [1]http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-April/msg00094.html I am not sure why the post did not make it. Sorry for duplicating them. -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Art Team Fedora Project contributor From mclasen at redhat.com Fri Apr 20 17:42:36 2007 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:42:36 -0400 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <4628FA83.5060609@silverorange.com> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <46286F9F.4070102@gmail.com> <462878C3.30007@thefinalzone.com> <4628A786.7080906@brej.org> <1177086604.4713.2.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <1177087545.10513.1.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <4628FA83.5060609@silverorange.com> Message-ID: <1177090956.10513.3.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 14:38 -0300, Steven Garrity wrote: > Matthias Clasen wrote: > > quick update: I've removed the svgs from echo-icon-theme again for now, > > until the problems are resolved. I've also changed the default icon > > theme away from Echo for test4. > > What did it change to? Mist From fedora-art at brej.org Fri Apr 20 20:19:23 2007 From: fedora-art at brej.org (Charlie Brej) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:19:23 +0100 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <1177086604.4713.2.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <46286F9F.4070102@gmail.com> <462878C3.30007@thefinalzone.com> <4628A786.7080906@brej.org> <1177086604.4713.2.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <4629204B.8030405@brej.org> Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Means one of the tools is broken. You should never hand-remove > namespaces in XML unless you know what you're doing. They're no here for > show. Did you validate the result at least ? Yeah it did. It made all the icons work in nautilus. It also worked if I opened the file and copied it to another. So you can correct this by loading/copying/saving again (within inkscape). Inkscape seems to leave the xml alone unless it has to. From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Fri Apr 20 21:18:42 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 23:18:42 +0200 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <4629204B.8030405@brej.org> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <46286F9F.4070102@gmail.com> <462878C3.30007@thefinalzone.com> <4628A786.7080906@brej.org> <1177086604.4713.2.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <4629204B.8030405@brej.org> Message-ID: <46292E32.8060403@seznam.cz> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Charlie Brej napsal(a): > Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> Means one of the tools is broken. You should never hand-remove >> namespaces in XML unless you know what you're doing. They're no here for >> show. Did you validate the result at least ? > Yeah it did. It made all the icons work in nautilus. It also worked if I > opened the file and copied it to another. So you can correct this by > loading/copying/saving again (within inkscape). Inkscape seems to leave > the xml alone unless it has to. > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > I noticed that in inkscape you have two choices how to save an image to svg: "Inkscape SVG" and "Plain SVG". "Inkscape SVG" is default option whereas "Plain SVG" seems to be better option for previews in nautilus. So I save all my icons in "Plain SVG" format. Dunno however where's the difference. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 249 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Fri Apr 20 23:00:51 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 01:00:51 +0200 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <46292E32.8060403@seznam.cz> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <46286F9F.4070102@gmail.com> <462878C3.30007@thefinalzone.com> <4628A786.7080906@brej.org> <1177086604.4713.2.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <4629204B.8030405@brej.org> <46292E32.8060403@seznam.cz> Message-ID: <1177110051.6472.4.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le vendredi 20 avril 2007 ? 23:18 +0200, Martin Sourada a ?crit : > I noticed that in inkscape you have two choices how to save an image to svg: > "Inkscape SVG" and "Plain SVG". "Inkscape SVG" is default option whereas "Plain > SVG" seems to be better option for previews in nautilus. So I save all my icons > in "Plain SVG" format. Dunno however where's the difference. It will probably strip all non-standard elements like the attached scriptable filter (that won't remove the svg qualifiers or recent adobe files because as far as I can tell it's legit and tools should not choke on it) -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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"Inkscape SVG" is default option whereas "Plain > > SVG" seems to be better option for previews in nautilus. So I save all my icons > > in "Plain SVG" format. Dunno however where's the difference. > > It will probably strip all non-standard elements like the attached > scriptable filter (that won't remove the svg qualifiers or recent adobe > files because as far as I can tell it's legit and tools should not choke > on it) And this one will make the svg namespace implicit when possible, making nautilus happy (nautilus is still broken though). It may complain a bit on the many interesting echo xml files but will output a sane result. -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: svg-cleanup.xsl Type: application/xml Size: 1925 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Sat Apr 21 09:28:40 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 02:28:40 -0700 Subject: Cleaning svg icons report Message-ID: <4629D948.5070802@thefinalzone.com> It will be nice to keep track the svg icons each members have modified so far. Here is mine along with tarball available[1]: - applications-internetL.svg applications-office24.svg drive-harddiskL.svg edit-pasteL.svg folderL.svg folder-remoteL.svg format-justify-centerL.svg globeL.svg go-down24.svg go-downL.svg go-downS.svg go-homeL.svg go-homeS.svg go-up24.svg go-upS.svg media-opticalL.svg network-transmitL.svg network-transmit-receiveL.svg software-update-available24.svg software-update-availableL.svg software-update-download24.svg software-update-downloadL.svg software-update-error24.svg software-update-errorL.svg software-update-unavailable24.svg software-update-unavailableL.svg software-update-urgent24.svg software-update-urgentL.svg system-shutdown24.svg system-shutdownS.svg system-software-update24.svg system-software-updateL.png system-software-updateL.svg system-software-updateS.svg system-standby24.svg system-standbyL.svg system-standbyS.svg Can anyone report what svg they fixed? [1]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga/Sandbox -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Art Team Fedora Project contributor From fedora-art at brej.org Sat Apr 21 09:39:35 2007 From: fedora-art at brej.org (Charlie Brej) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:39:35 +0100 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <4628A786.7080906@brej.org> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <46286F9F.4070102@gmail.com> <462878C3.30007@thefinalzone.com> <4628A786.7080906@brej.org> Message-ID: <4629DBD7.3090306@brej.org> Charlie Brej wrote: > Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: >> I forgot to include the modified trim_svg.pl . Charles, could you check >> why the script failed to restore visibility on one of Echo icon? > > The I have just noticed that some icons refused to show up on my system. > I narrowed down the problem to Adobe Illustrator wanting to put "svg:" > in front of most tags (but only in some icons). Inkscape can deal with > it but gimp/nautilus/eog can't. There are some 20 effected icons but the > new version of the script corrects this. It goes through and removes all > the svg: from the front of tags. > > Another problem I found is that gimp also ignores the visibility attrib > and displays the hidden objects anyway. This can be seen in > preferences-desktop-accessibilityL.svg where the old wheelchair object > is still visible over the new icon. You can search for these using: > > grep -l display=\"none\" *.svg > Usually these are just temporary items left behind while creating the > image, but better make sure they didnt come to the foreground within the > frame. > Just realised I forgot to attach the script (doh!). -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: trim_svg.pl URL: From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Sat Apr 21 09:47:05 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 11:47:05 +0200 Subject: Cleaning svg icons report In-Reply-To: <4629D948.5070802@thefinalzone.com> References: <4629D948.5070802@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <1177148825.10662.3.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le samedi 21 avril 2007 ? 02:28 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga a ?crit : Hi luya, > It will be nice to keep track the svg icons each members have modified > so far. Here is mine along with tarball available[1]: Do you intend to scrub the svg files using the filter I posted yesterday ? Your files are still full of adobe and inkscape-specific annotations (one pathological file system-software-updateS.svg shrinks from 476 KiB to 21 KiB when filtered) -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Your files are still full of adobe and inkscape-specific > annotations (one pathological file system-software-updateS.svg shrinks > from 476 KiB to 21 KiB when filtered) Scripted example: $ mkdir /tmp/svgtest $ for svg in $(find /usr/share/icons/Echo/scalable -name "*.svg" -type f) ; do xsltproc -o /tmp/svgtest/$svg svg-cleanup.xsl $svg ; done $ du -hs /usr/share/icons/Echo/scalable/ 5,2M /usr/share/icons/Echo/scalable/ $ du -hs /tmp/svgtest/ 3,9M /tmp/svgtest/ Loads of cruft in the current echo theme. Slightly modified filter attached Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: svg-cleanup.xsl Type: application/xml Size: 2089 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Sat Apr 21 14:15:15 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 16:15:15 +0200 Subject: Cleaning svg icons report In-Reply-To: <4629D948.5070802@thefinalzone.com> References: <4629D948.5070802@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <462A1C73.1060301@seznam.cz> Luya Tshimbalanga napsal(a): > It will be nice to keep track the svg icons each members have modified > so far. Here is mine along with tarball available[1]: > > - applications-internetL.svg > applications-office24.svg > drive-harddiskL.svg > edit-pasteL.svg > folderL.svg > folder-remoteL.svg > format-justify-centerL.svg > globeL.svg > go-down24.svg > go-downL.svg > go-downS.svg > go-homeL.svg > go-homeS.svg > go-up24.svg > go-upS.svg > media-opticalL.svg > network-transmitL.svg > network-transmit-receiveL.svg > software-update-available24.svg > software-update-availableL.svg > software-update-download24.svg > software-update-downloadL.svg > software-update-error24.svg > software-update-errorL.svg > software-update-unavailable24.svg > software-update-unavailableL.svg > software-update-urgent24.svg > software-update-urgentL.svg > system-shutdown24.svg > system-shutdownS.svg > system-software-update24.svg > system-software-updateL.png > system-software-updateL.svg > system-software-updateS.svg > system-standby24.svg > system-standbyL.svg > system-standbyS.svg > > Can anyone report what svg they fixed? > > > [1]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga/Sandbox Are you cleaning all icons? I mean, the list of icons, does it mean icons you stripped using the script, or list of icons you resaved in inkscape, or something else? I noticed there an icon of mine (go-home[L/S].svg) which was displayed correctly in nautilus even in the version I posted to the wiki (and displayed correctly in the echo-icon-theme package where stripped svgs were included). If the list is of the icons you fixed using inkscape, I think, we should focus, at least at the beginning, primarily at the icons that suffer from some display problems (where some of the listed does not)... Thanks, Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 249 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Sat Apr 21 19:02:58 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 15:02:58 -0400 Subject: Cleaning svg icons report In-Reply-To: <462A1C73.1060301@seznam.cz> References: <4629D948.5070802@thefinalzone.com> <462A1C73.1060301@seznam.cz> Message-ID: <1177182178.462a5fe233486@ssl.mecca.ca> Quoting Martin Sourada : > Luya Tshimbalanga napsal(a): > > It will be nice to keep track the svg icons each members have modified > > so far. Here is mine along with tarball available[1]: > > > > - applications-internetL.svg > > applications-office24.svg > > drive-harddiskL.svg > > edit-pasteL.svg > > folderL.svg > > folder-remoteL.svg > > format-justify-centerL.svg > > globeL.svg > > go-down24.svg > > go-downL.svg > > go-downS.svg > > go-up24.svg > > go-upS.svg > > media-opticalL.svg > > network-transmitL.svg > > network-transmit-receiveL.svg > > software-update-available24.svg > > software-update-availableL.svg > > software-update-download24.svg > > software-update-downloadL.svg > > software-update-error24.svg > > software-update-errorL.svg > > software-update-unavailable24.svg > > software-update-unavailableL.svg > > software-update-urgent24.svg > > software-update-urgentL.svg > > system-shutdown24.svg > > system-shutdownS.svg > > system-software-update24.svg > > system-software-updateL.png > > system-software-updateL.svg > > system-software-updateS.svg > > system-standby24.svg > > system-standbyL.svg > > system-standbyS.svg > > > > Can anyone report what svg they fixed? > > > > > > [1]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga/Sandbox > > Are you cleaning all icons? I mean, the list of icons, does it mean icons you > stripped using the script, or list of icons you resaved in inkscape, or > something else? I noticed there an icon of mine (go-home[L/S].svg) which was > displayed correctly in nautilus even in the version I posted to the wiki (and > displayed correctly in the echo-icon-theme package where stripped svgs were > included). Those are icons with display problem. I forgot to remove go-home as I was too tired at night. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Sat Apr 21 19:40:40 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:40:40 -0700 Subject: Cleaning svg icons report In-Reply-To: <1177148825.10662.3.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <4629D948.5070802@thefinalzone.com> <1177148825.10662.3.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <462A68B8.1020209@thefinalzone.com> Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Do you intend to scrub the svg files using the filter I posted > yesterday ? Your files are still full of adobe and inkscape-specific > annotations (one pathological file system-software-updateS.svg shrinks > from 476 KiB to 21 KiB when filtered) > > I tested your script in combination of charlies's trim_svg script. The size of pathological svg files are dramatically shrinked. Using system-software-updateS.svg as example, the size is now 18 KiB. Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Art Team Fedora Project contributor From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Sat Apr 21 20:55:05 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 13:55:05 -0700 Subject: Cleaning svg icons report In-Reply-To: <462A1C73.1060301@seznam.cz> References: <4629D948.5070802@thefinalzone.com> <462A1C73.1060301@seznam.cz> Message-ID: <462A7A29.9040707@thefinalzone.com> Martin Sourada wrote: > Luya Tshimbalanga napsal(a): > >> It will be nice to keep track the svg icons each members have modified >> so far. Here is mine along with tarball available[1]: >> >> - applications-internetL.svg >> applications-office24.svg >> drive-harddiskL.svg >> edit-pasteL.svg >> folderL.svg >> folder-remoteL.svg >> format-justify-centerL.svg >> globeL.svg >> go-down24.svg >> go-downL.svg >> go-downS.svg >> go-homeL.svg >> go-homeS.svg >> go-up24.svg >> go-upS.svg >> media-opticalL.svg >> network-transmitL.svg >> network-transmit-receiveL.svg >> software-update-available24.svg >> software-update-availableL.svg >> software-update-download24.svg >> software-update-downloadL.svg >> software-update-error24.svg >> software-update-errorL.svg >> software-update-unavailable24.svg >> software-update-unavailableL.svg >> software-update-urgent24.svg >> software-update-urgentL.svg >> system-shutdown24.svg >> system-shutdownS.svg >> system-software-update24.svg >> system-software-updateL.png >> system-software-updateL.svg >> system-software-updateS.svg >> system-standby24.svg >> system-standbyL.svg >> system-standbyS.svg >> >> Can anyone report what svg they fixed? >> >> >> [1]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga/Sandbox >> > > Are you cleaning all icons? I mean, the list of icons, does it mean icons you > stripped using the script, or list of icons you resaved in inkscape, or > something else? I noticed there an icon of mine (go-home[L/S].svg) which was > displayed correctly in nautilus even in the version I posted to the wiki (and > displayed correctly in the echo-icon-theme package where stripped svgs were > included). If the list is of the icons you fixed using inkscape, I think, we > should focus, at least at the beginning, primarily at the icons that suffer from > some display problems (where some of the listed does not)... > > Another note is to take opportunity to put all svg icons higher than 100 Kib on diet. I have already overwrite all software-update*.svg those have now a range of 5 to 40 Kib. Using these methods should also reduce the load time on EchoDevelopment page. -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Art Team From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Sat Apr 21 22:29:16 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 15:29:16 -0700 Subject: Cleanup Echo wiki page Message-ID: <462A903C.1010109@thefinalzone.com> I have created a wiki page to keep track of change made on faulty Echo svg icon. Feel free to add your name and pick the icons you wish to edit and correct the wiki. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoIconTheme/Cleanup -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Art Team From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Sun Apr 22 19:08:34 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 21:08:34 +0200 Subject: Cleaning svg icons report In-Reply-To: <462A68B8.1020209@thefinalzone.com> References: <4629D948.5070802@thefinalzone.com> <1177148825.10662.3.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <462A68B8.1020209@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <1177268914.4954.1.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le samedi 21 avril 2007 ? 12:40 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga a ?crit : > Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Do you intend to scrub the svg files using the filter I posted > > yesterday ? Your files are still full of adobe and inkscape-specific > > annotations (one pathological file system-software-updateS.svg shrinks > > from 476 KiB to 21 KiB when filtered) > > > > > I tested your script in combination of charlies's trim_svg script. The > size of pathological svg files are dramatically shrinked. Using > system-software-updateS.svg as example, the size is now 18 KiB. Some more thoughts A. I'd be real surprised if you find a file where trim_svg + svg-cleanup.xsl ? svg-cleanup.xsl alone (if you find one send it to me I'd like to know what I missed) B. svg-cleanup.xsl will kill *every* single tool-specific extension, so we'll avoid the effect where a tool restarts where it left out ignoring changes done in another tool, but if you're editing a file in a single app you definitely want to do the cleanup last. It may remove info that helps your tool C. I could probably trim the files more by removing XML indenting, but I don't think the wins are worth having files one can't easily inspect in a text editor. D. I'd feel better if the result was actually validated against XML schemas, we probably need to agree on a svg schema version and package it like it's done for docbook. E. if someone feels like it, the stylesheet could probably be enhanced to do automatic re-scaling Also interested people can check the filter results by : a. normalising input and output file with xmllint --format b. comparing the result files with meld (more complete tools like eclipse with WTP extension will to it automatically, and my xslt does xmllint --format automatically so there's no need to reformat its output) Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Fri Apr 20 17:25:12 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:25:12 -0700 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <4628A786.7080906@brej.org> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <46286F9F.4070102@gmail.com> <462878C3.30007@thefinalzone.com> <4628A786.7080906@brej.org> Message-ID: <4628F778.8030008@thefinalzone.com> Charlie Brej wrote: > > The I have just noticed that some icons refused to show up on my > system. I narrowed down the problem to Adobe Illustrator wanting to > put "svg:" in front of most tags (but only in some icons). Inkscape > can deal with it but gimp/nautilus/eog can't. There are some 20 > effected icons but the new version of the script corrects this. It > goes through and removes all the svg: from the front of tags. You made the mistake of removing all svg:tags. They are essential to create the image. Read my post on http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-April/msg00095.html and http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ#I_exported_an_SVG_file_from_Adobe_Illustrator.2C_edited_it_in_Inkscape.2C_and_imported_back_to_AI.2C_but_there_my_changes_are_lost.21 > > Another problem I found is that gimp also ignores the visibility > attrib and displays the hidden objects anyway. This can be seen in > preferences-desktop-accessibilityL.svg where the old wheelchair object > is still visible over the new icon. You can search for these using: > > grep -l display=\"none\" *.svg > Usually these are just temporary items left behind while creating the > image, but better make sure they didnt come to the foreground within > the frame. > I think you have found a bug inside your script. Compare with preferences-desktop-accessibilityR.svg I posted[1] and observe the change. The trick is to remove Remove only non svg: such as inside along with extras space and manually remove unneccesary inside . Highlight one faulty to spot the bogus layer in Inkscape image to remove it. Save it with Inkscape. That should restore the foreground. The method may be long but it works. So far, I have fixed my own software-update svgs updated this way. I will be able to post the change on the wiki later tonight. 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I narrowed down the problem to Adobe Illustrator wanting to > put "svg:" in front of most tags (but only in some icons). Inkscape > can deal with it but gimp/nautilus/eog can't. There are some 20 > effected icons but the new version of the script corrects this. It > goes through and removes all the svg: from the front of tags. You made the mistake of removing all svg:tags. They are essential to create the image. Read my post on http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-April/msg00095.html and http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/FAQ#I_exported_an_SVG_file_from_Adobe_Illustrator.2C_edited_it_in_Inkscape.2C_and_imported_back_to_AI.2C_but_there_my_changes_are_lost.21 > > Another problem I found is that gimp also ignores the visibility > attrib and displays the hidden objects anyway. This can be seen in > preferences-desktop-accessibilityL.svg where the old wheelchair object > is still visible over the new icon. You can search for these using: > > grep -l display=\"none\" *.svg > Usually these are just temporary items left behind while creating the > image, but better make sure they didnt come to the foreground within > the frame. > I think you have found a bug inside your script. Compare with preferences-desktop-accessibilityR.svg I posted[1] and observe the change. The trick is to remove Remove only non svg: such as inside along with extras space and manually remove unneccesary inside . Highlight one faulty to spot the bogus layer in Inkscape image to remove it. Save it with Inkscape. That should restore the foreground. The method may be long but it works. So far, I have fixed my own software-update svgs updated this way. I will be able to post the change on the wiki later tonight. [1]http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-April/msg00094.html -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Art Team Fedora Project contributor -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: software-update-available24.svg Type: image/svg+xml Size: 19767 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: software-update-download24.svg Type: image/svg+xml Size: 11500 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: software-update-error24.svg Type: image/svg+xml Size: 19603 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Here is mine: - applications-internetL.svg applications-office24.svg drive-harddiskL.svg edit-pasteL.svg folderL.svg folder-remoteL.svg format-justify-centerL.svg globeL.svg go-down24.svg go-downL.svg go-downS.svg go-homeL.svg go-homeS.svg go-up24.svg go-upS.svg media-opticalL.svg network-transmitL.svg network-transmit-receiveL.svg software-update-available24.svg software-update-availableL.svg software-update-download24.svg software-update-downloadL.svg software-update-error24.svg software-update-errorL.svg software-update-unavailable24.svg software-update-unavailableL.svg software-update-urgent24.svg software-update-urgentL.svg system-shutdown24.svg system-shutdownS.svg system-software-update24.svg system-software-updateL.png system-software-updateL.svg system-software-updateS.svg system-standby24.svg system-standbyL.svg system-standbyS.svg A tarball containing these icons is included to check the display on the desktop. -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Art Team Fedora Project contributor -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Your files are still full of adobe and inkscape-specific >>> annotations (one pathological file system-software-updateS.svg shrinks >>> from 476 KiB to 21 KiB when filtered) >>> >>> >>> >> I tested your script in combination of charlies's trim_svg script. The >> size of pathological svg files are dramatically shrinked. Using >> system-software-updateS.svg as example, the size is now 18 KiB. >> > > Some more thoughts > > A. I'd be real surprised if you find a file where > trim_svg + svg-cleanup.xsl ??? svg-cleanup.xsl alone > (if you find one send it to me I'd like to know what I missed) > 180 pathologic svg downloaded later, I retested svg-cleanup.xsl. It turned out to be logical. > B. svg-cleanup.xsl will kill *every* single tool-specific extension, so > we'll avoid the effect where a tool restarts where it left out ignoring > changes done in another tool, but if you're editing a file in a single > app you definitely want to do the cleanup last. It may remove info that > helps your tool > The tools like Illustrator and Inkscape will automatically add them. I have tested one sample svg that can be previewed on nautilus without problem, > C. I could probably trim the files more by removing XML indenting, but I > don't think the wins are worth having files one can't easily inspect in > a text editor. > Not necessary. The size is small enough as long svg icons are smaller than 100 Kib. > D. I'd feel better if the result was actually validated against XML > schemas, we probably need to agree on a svg schema version and package > it like it's done for docbook. > I think we should do on post Fedora 7 release. The goal is to allow svg icons to be displayed on desktop. > E. if someone feels like it, the stylesheet could probably be enhanced > to do automatic re-scaling > > Is it possible to rescale on say 48x48? -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Art Team From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Mon Apr 23 07:31:04 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 09:31:04 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Cleaning svg icons report In-Reply-To: <462C5DC1.7050904@thefinalzone.com> References: <4629D948.5070802@thefinalzone.com> <1177148825.10662.3.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <462A68B8.1020209@thefinalzone.com> <1177268914.4954.1.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <462C5DC1.7050904@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <34575.192.54.193.51.1177313464.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Lun 23 avril 2007 09:18, Luya Tshimbalanga a ?crit : >> trim_svg + svg-cleanup.xsl ?? svg-cleanup.xsl alone The funny sign was a != for those with UTF-8-unaware tools >> E. if someone feels like it, the stylesheet could probably be >> enhanced >> to do automatic re-scaling >> > Is it possible to rescale on say 48x48? It's definitely possible in XSLT 2, probably in XSLT 1 + exslt extensions (that libxml2 understands) You just need to read the root element dimensions, calculate a scaling factor + margin & apply it to coordinate elements (this one is the only difficult part as it requires reading the svg spec to find out what must be scaled) But I don't really have any free time left for now so I'll gladly let others do it if you want a solution soon. Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot From fedora-art at brej.org Mon Apr 23 07:59:01 2007 From: fedora-art at brej.org (Charlie Brej) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 08:59:01 +0100 Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <4628F778.8030008@thefinalzone.com> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <46286F9F.4070102@gmail.com> <462878C3.30007@thefinalzone.com> <4628A786.7080906@brej.org> <4628F778.8030008@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <462C6745.8090203@brej.org> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Charlie Brej wrote: >> The I have just noticed that some icons refused to show up on my >> system. I narrowed down the problem to Adobe Illustrator wanting to >> put "svg:" in front of most tags (but only in some icons). Inkscape >> can deal with it but gimp/nautilus/eog can't. There are some 20 >> effected icons but the new version of the script corrects this. It >> goes through and removes all the svg: from the front of tags. > You made the mistake of removing all svg:tags. They are essential to > create the image. I didn't mean remove the tags, I meant just remove the svg: component of them so as to rename the tag to just instead of . But by hand is probably safer. From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Mon Apr 23 08:03:20 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:03:20 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Including scalable icons to improve size coverage In-Reply-To: <462C6745.8090203@brej.org> References: <1176776328.2998.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4623F754.7070700@brej.org> <1176790029.4624640d205fd@ssl.mecca.ca> <1176787688.2970.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4626673A.6020102@seznam.cz> <46267729.5090103@seznam.cz> <46268471.5070402@thefinalzone.com> <1177007120.14565.2.camel@dhcp83-33.boston.redhat.com> <46286F9F.4070102@gmail.com> <462878C3.30007@thefinalzone.com> <4628A786.7080906@brej.org> <4628F778.8030008@thefinalzone.com> <462C6745.8090203@brej.org> Message-ID: <53825.192.54.193.51.1177315400.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Lun 23 avril 2007 09:59, Charlie Brej a ?crit : Hi Charlie > I didn't mean remove the tags, I meant just remove the svg: component > of > them so as to rename the tag to just instead of . But > by hand is probably safer. Depending on how the svg namespace was declared in the svg you can't just remore a prefix and get a valid file. -- Nicolas Mailhot From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Mon Apr 23 08:15:47 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 01:15:47 -0700 Subject: Cleaning svg icons report In-Reply-To: <34575.192.54.193.51.1177313464.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <4629D948.5070802@thefinalzone.com> <1177148825.10662.3.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <462A68B8.1020209@thefinalzone.com> <1177268914.4954.1.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <462C5DC1.7050904@thefinalzone.com> <34575.192.54.193.51.1177313464.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <462C6B33.8020000@thefinalzone.com> I have completely trimmed svg icons[1]. Step to be done is to resize Large icons to 48x48 and fixed some layouts. It took me about 1 hours to download faulty svg (too lazy to modify the script). The name of tarball is modifed-svg. [1]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoIconTheme/Cleanup -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Art Team From gerold at lugd.org Mon Apr 23 21:43:00 2007 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:43:00 +0200 Subject: need your help for covering Linuxtag in Germany Message-ID: <1177364580.4008.35.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> Hi list, please let me introduce myself in short words ... My name is Gerold and I'm one of the responsible Ambassadors in Germany who'll cover and organize Linuxtag in Germany which is one of the world greatest Open Source Event since a couple of years with over 10.000 visitors in a week ... It hurts me, to hear from Max, that Diana Fong is no longer available for us because in the past I did many things with her and her help was much appreciated by all of us. But life goes on and now I have to deal with you and I'm also sure that I get your outstanding help with my issue! In approx. four weeks (one week after official launch of F7) we have the European greatest event in the capital of Germany (in Berlin) and we need your help. have a look at www.linuxtag.org and also http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2007 Please let me explain our ideas: - We want to make a folded small brochure in Size A4; on the front page the F7 baloon with the letters "Fedora 7 is here" and our booth number "Halle 12 Stand 73" some other smaller F7 artworks would be nice ... - We want to have a not-version specific banner high formatted for use on many other exhibitions let's say 2 mtr high and 1 mtr. width Hope you can answer soon. Cheers Gerold -- Regards Gerold Kassube Fedora Ambassador Deutschland / Germany Schweiz / Switzerland Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From: Caolan McNamara Subject: Re: icons of latest development openoffice Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 18:44:37 +0100 Size: 3889 URL: From stevelist at silverorange.com Tue Apr 24 18:10:44 2007 From: stevelist at silverorange.com (Steven Garrity) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:10:44 -0300 Subject: [Fwd: Re: icons of latest development openoffice] In-Reply-To: <462E437D.2020305@fedoraproject.org> References: <462E437D.2020305@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <462E4824.5010709@silverorange.com> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Something to consider. There is work underway on Tango icons for OpenOffice.org, which would blend in nicely with the latest Gnome or Mist icons. CC'ing Jakub for more info on the Tango-for-OpenOffice.org status. Cheers, Steven Garrity > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: icons of latest development openoffice > From: > Caolan McNamara > Date: > Tue, 24 Apr 2007 18:44:37 +0100 > To: > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > To: > fedora-test-list at redhat.com > > > On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 19:07 +0200, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: >> are the ones provided by openoffice and not the ones usually I got in Fedora... >> Is this intended...? I preferred the fedora ones > > It looks like the default Fedora GNOME theme is now "Fedora" which > inherits its icons from "Mist", and "Mist" doesn't have any > openoffice.org icons or inherit from one that does. So the fallback is > all the way back to the "vanilla" OOo icons, bypassing the previous > "BlueCurve" icons used by that theme and other inheriting themes like > Clearlooks. > > The vanilla icons do look like crap, so hopefully either redhat-artwork > or gnome-themes could be tweaked to use the BlueCurve icons for OOo > apps. > > C. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Tue Apr 24 21:29:28 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:29:28 -0700 Subject: Cleaning Echo svg icons update report Message-ID: <462E76B8.8060408@thefinalzone.com> I saved the original Echo svg icons affected with issues ( a total of 193). As announced[1], I have made a modifed version[2] that used Nicolas's script (preserving the xml while remove binary junk). A few notes, most of them don't have shadow but those are only minor issues that don't detract the overall look so it is safe to ignore. Some icons like battery have different display compared to the png version which can be easily edited. Audio variant icons and Applications-Other display an interesting bug on Nautilus from libsvg library as pointed out by Matthias Clasen. Those bugs occured when I scaled these icons. The original tarball I posted have not been scaled down yet. I have so far manually scaled 100 of 193 icons. I submit the tarball package (about 320 Kib size which is a huge improvment) on the wiki so users can check if these icons correctly display on their desktop. [1]http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-April/msg00115.html [2]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoIconTheme/Cleanup?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=modified-svg.tar.bz2 -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Art Team From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Tue Apr 24 21:42:49 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:42:49 -0700 Subject: need your help for covering Linuxtag in Germany In-Reply-To: <1177364580.4008.35.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> References: <1177364580.4008.35.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> Message-ID: <462E79D9.2060304@thefinalzone.com> Greeting Gerold, Gerold Kassube wrote: > In approx. four weeks (one week after official launch of F7) we have the > European greatest event in the capital of Germany (in Berlin) and we > need your help. > have a look at www.linuxtag.org and also > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2007 > > Please let me explain our ideas: > > - We want to make a folded small brochure in Size A4; on the front page > the F7 baloon with the letters "Fedora 7 is here" and our booth number > "Halle 12 Stand 73" some other smaller F7 artworks would be nice ... > Is there any more text to add on that brochure? I will do some draft soon. -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Art Team From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Apr 25 05:53:36 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:53:36 +0300 Subject: [Fwd: Re: icons of latest development openoffice] In-Reply-To: <462E437D.2020305@fedoraproject.org> References: <462E437D.2020305@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <462EECE0.3020000@nicubunu.ro> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > Something to consider. Using BlueCurve icons as default in OOo is (IMO) not a god idea because: development of Bluecurve practically ceased, the theme is in maintenance mode and the Bluecurve set for OOo is incomplete, with very large gaps (untouched from the OOo 1.1.x era). I think a better short-term solution for Fedora 7 is to make the default icon set "Industrial" with large icons (this theme is included in the package). Caolan, I don't understand why you say redhat-artwork or gnome-themes could be tweaked to use the BlueCurve icons for OOo apps, OOo does not use the Gnome theming for icons, it has its own settings, which are controlled from the inside the application (or by the packager). All the themes are in share/config as .zip files and the setting to config the default in registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/Common.xcu > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: icons of latest development openoffice > From: > Caolan McNamara > > > On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 19:07 +0200, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: >> are the ones provided by openoffice and not the ones usually I got in Fedora... >> Is this intended...? I preferred the fedora ones > > It looks like the default Fedora GNOME theme is now "Fedora" which > inherits its icons from "Mist", and "Mist" doesn't have any > openoffice.org icons or inherit from one that does. So the fallback is > all the way back to the "vanilla" OOo icons, bypassing the previous > "BlueCurve" icons used by that theme and other inheriting themes like > Clearlooks. > > The vanilla icons do look like crap, so hopefully either redhat-artwork > or gnome-themes could be tweaked to use the BlueCurve icons for OOo > apps. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Apr 25 07:42:14 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:42:14 +0300 Subject: The Open Palette - take two (Red Hat Magazine) Message-ID: <462F0656.8030708@nicubunu.ro> The second article in "the Open Palette" series from the Red Hat Magazine is written by Mo and cover "grungy brushes" - is about creating with Inkscape brushes which can be used later in GIMP. Go and read it. http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/04/22/the-open-palette-creating-grungy-gimp-brushes-using-inkscape/ I liked it enough to write a couple of follow-ups: - http://howto.nicubunu.ro/grungy_brushes/ - http://howto.nicubunu.ro/inkscape_brushes/ -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From caolanm at redhat.com Wed Apr 25 06:44:09 2007 From: caolanm at redhat.com (Caolan McNamara) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 07:44:09 +0100 Subject: [Fwd: Re: icons of latest development openoffice] In-Reply-To: <462EECE0.3020000@nicubunu.ro> References: <462E437D.2020305@fedoraproject.org> <462EECE0.3020000@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1177483449.2486.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 08:53 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Hi > > > > Something to consider. > > Using BlueCurve icons as default in OOo is (IMO) not a god idea because: > development of Bluecurve practically ceased, the theme is in maintenance > mode and the Bluecurve set for OOo is incomplete, with very large gaps > (untouched from the OOo 1.1.x era). > > I think a better short-term solution for Fedora 7 is to make the default > icon set "Industrial" with large icons (this theme is included in the > package). > > Caolan, I don't understand why you say redhat-artwork or gnome-themes > could be tweaked to use the BlueCurve icons for OOo apps I'm just talking about the icons in the *panel* at the top of the screen, not OOo itself. The panel launcher icons, not the theme of the app. 4 or 5 little panel icons are in question here. I just want to use the current BlueCurve panel icons that are in our gnome-themes/redhat-artwork pack as a stopgap until someone draws some Mist panel icons. C. From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Thu Apr 26 08:01:32 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 01:01:32 -0700 Subject: Cleaning echo icons update 2007-04-26 Message-ID: <46305C5C.5050800@thefinalzone.com> Package modified-svg has been updated[1]. I have remade all audio-volume icons that should now be well displayed on screen. I have resized them to 48x48 but it should scale well on other size. Here is a preview of the new audio-volume. Some icons still have issues so I will make a new variation for them. [1]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoIconTheme/Cleanup -- ????D0 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I will do some draft soon. ^^ yes indeed in the "inside" of the broschure but all in german; on the layout StefanHeld is working on it; we need some smaller icons, art-works of F7 and in the size of A5 (German format) a "frontpage" .... Thanks for your help! Regards Gerold -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Fri Apr 27 04:41:31 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:41:31 -0700 Subject: librsvg bugs Message-ID: <46317EFB.7040808@thefinalzone.com> I have investigated the rendering issues on Echo-icons by searching librsvg bugs reported by Matthias Clasen. The librsvg issues affect many distributions as reported: - http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421025 - http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428178 I made modifications on affected icons: - audio-volume variants - application-internet (although there is a small issue but does not detract the display) I consider making a modifications on application-other by removing the gears. -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Art Team From wes.armour at diamond.ac.uk Fri Apr 27 13:30:48 2007 From: wes.armour at diamond.ac.uk (Wes Armour) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 14:30:48 +0100 Subject: Fedora 7 test4 artwork. Message-ID: <1177680648.5074.12.camel@pc007.sc.diamond.ac.uk> Just a quick e-mail to say I love the balloons theme for fedora 7. In my opinion it is the best theme and artwork in a fedora release so far. The desktop background is fantastic! Thanks, Wes From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Sat Apr 28 09:02:28 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 02:02:28 -0700 Subject: SVG icons testing Message-ID: <46330DA4.30800@thefinalzone.com> I completed svg icons fixed and published them on the wiki. The trimmed version are available as well on EchoIconTheme/Cleanup wiki[1] under the name modified-svg. Matthias Clasen, could you test them on the desktop? Only minor details like shadow are missing. [1]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoIconTheme/Cleanup -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Art Team From mclasen at redhat.com Sat Apr 28 11:48:08 2007 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 07:48:08 -0400 Subject: SVG icons testing In-Reply-To: <46330DA4.30800@thefinalzone.com> References: <46330DA4.30800@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <1177760888.3656.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2007-04-28 at 02:02 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > I completed svg icons fixed and published them on the wiki. The trimmed > version are > available as well on EchoIconTheme/Cleanup wiki[1] under the name > modified-svg. > > Matthias Clasen, could you test them on the desktop? Only minor details > like shadow are missing. I can re-add the svgs again to echo-icon-theme, but probably not before F7 final, since we are still frozen. 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Rahul From mola.mp at gmail.com Sun Apr 29 17:54:22 2007 From: mola.mp at gmail.com (Mola Pahnadayan) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:24:22 +0330 Subject: Break time , Background In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80704281740t7a4f1a40tccb1eef7ef370e06@mail.gmail.com> References: <4633A83A.9080004@gmail.com> <6e24a8e80704281740t7a4f1a40tccb1eef7ef370e06@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4634DBCE.1060904@gmail.com> Mark wrote: > that looks freaking real!! > it`s a render right? yes, render with blender. From sdl.web at gmail.com Sun Apr 29 18:04:37 2007 From: sdl.web at gmail.com (Leo) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:04:37 +0100 Subject: rhgb background looks like LCD dead pixels Message-ID: Hi all, [System: Fedora 6.93] /usr/share/rhgb/main-logo.png has a few small dots (for stars) around a cloud. This picture looks great except those small dots. It made me suspect that my LCD screen has a few dead pixels. Anyone has a similar experience? Do you think we should do something about it for Fedora 7 release? Regards, -- Leo (GPG Key: 9283AA3F) From markg85 at gmail.com Sun Apr 29 21:57:20 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:57:20 +0200 Subject: Break time , Background In-Reply-To: <4634DBCE.1060904@gmail.com> References: <4633A83A.9080004@gmail.com> <6e24a8e80704281740t7a4f1a40tccb1eef7ef370e06@mail.gmail.com> <4634DBCE.1060904@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80704291457p42435c20lea57f0c57bb9e725@mail.gmail.com> can you make more of this gread stuff? perhaps some that are good as a wallpaper (minimalistic) 2007/4/29, Mola Pahnadayan : > > Mark wrote: > > that looks freaking real!! > > it`s a render right? > > yes, render with blender. > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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