From duffy at redhat.com Fri Jun 1 15:30:56 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 11:30:56 -0400 Subject: Full banner in Brazil In-Reply-To: <465F0DE5.4020101@unopar.br> References: <465F0DE5.4020101@unopar.br> Message-ID: <46603BB0.7060408@redhat.com> Jayme Ayres wrote: > I would like to show this: > http://www.jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora_full_banner.gif > http://www.jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora_full_banner_en.gif These look great!!!! Is it okay if I add them to the Fedora banners page? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Banners Are you the artist? ~m From jayme.ayres at unopar.br Fri Jun 1 17:20:04 2007 From: jayme.ayres at unopar.br (Jayme Ayres) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:20:04 -0300 Subject: Full banner in Brazil In-Reply-To: <46603BB0.7060408@redhat.com> References: <465F0DE5.4020101@unopar.br> <46603BB0.7060408@redhat.com> Message-ID: <46605544.7040501@unopar.br> I am responsible for the o artwork of the fedora project in Brazil with contributions for spreading material printed matter and electronic media: http://www.projetofedora.org/wiki/Artwork I also made a proposal for mascote for the project together with the Ronaldo Padula: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot ...and I am the author of wallpaper 4elements, with an edition for the Fedora Core 6: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/4Elements+2.0+-+Fedora+Bubble+Theme?content=46686 I feel myself honored in having full to banner published in artwork site of the project :) ... i would make once more http://www.jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora_full_banner_II.gif []?s -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com M?ir?n Duffy escreveu: > Jayme Ayres wrote: >> I would like to show this: >> http://www.jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora_full_banner.gif >> http://www.jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora_full_banner_en.gif > > These look great!!!! > > Is it okay if I add them to the Fedora banners page? > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Banners > > Are you the artist? > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > From mclasen at redhat.com Wed Jun 6 13:05:22 2007 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 09:05:22 -0400 Subject: F8 artwork Message-ID: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> Some unsorted thoughts to start a discussion about artwork for F8: - As most people will probably have noticed by now, Diana is longer with Red Hat, and it looks unlikely that we will have a full-time artist that can help with the artwork in time for F8. - Personally, I'd like to explore a somewhat different style of artwork for F8; something much less branded and image-based (maybe stripes :-) -- if only because the F7 artwork is pretty much at the top of the quality scale for this kind of heavily image-based, branded artwork (as the initial F7 reviews show), and will be hard to top... - The desktop team has started to work on improving the graphical boot (see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureBetterStartup ). If we can land this for F8, it will will mean quite a few changes to what artwork is required for branding the boot (all for the better, less images and less awkward restrictions on image formats). It is however, blocking on kernel feature that we are currently not very confident to have in the F8 timeframe. - I haven't heard much about the status of the Echo icon theme lately; are you hoping to have this in good enough shape to become the default in F8 ? We also need to redo the experiment to include svns. Matthias From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Jun 6 13:40:03 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:40:03 +0300 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> Matthias Clasen wrote: > Some unsorted thoughts to start a discussion about artwork for F8: > > - As most people will probably have noticed by now, Diana is longer with > Red Hat, and it looks unlikely that we will have a full-time artist that > can help with the artwork in time for F8. Do you think is the case for us to start a 3 round process similar with the one proposed for F7? - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/FC7Themes We can easily adapt it with dates following the F8 schedule. > - Personally, I'd like to explore a somewhat different style of artwork > for F8; something much less branded and image-based (maybe stripes :-) > -- if only because the F7 artwork is pretty much at the top of the > quality scale for this kind of heavily image-based, branded artwork (as > the initial F7 reviews show), and will be hard to top... I agree about exploring a new style because I think we should bring something fresh in each release and because is fun to explore different styles. > - The desktop team has started to work on improving the graphical boot > (see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureBetterStartup ). If > we can land this for F8, it will will mean quite a few changes to what > artwork is required for branding the boot (all for the better, less > images and less awkward restrictions on image formats). It is however, > blocking on kernel feature that we are currently not very confident to > have in the F8 timeframe. We can focus on the overall style in the beginning and when the time comes to create the individual images (probably around F8T2 or even a little later) probably you will have a better idea about this blocker. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From duffy at redhat.com Wed Jun 6 15:20:02 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:20:02 -0400 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Do you think is the case for us to start a 3 round process similar with > the one proposed for F7? - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/FC7Themes > We can easily adapt it with dates following the F8 schedule. +1 I think this is a good idea. I agree with Matthias though and I think we should try to tone the style down a bit. We can come up with a theme concept collaboratively but I think when we actually create it, we should try to not be quite so literal with the artwork, and instead try for a bit more abstract and clean look for most of the theme. I do not think that it's a matter of being 'hard to top', though. I think especially for the artwork that is not easily changed by end users (wallpaper and GDM theme are easiest to swap out), we have to think about the artwork forcing a particular theme down user's throats when their tastes are quite different. E.g., there's balloons in grub, if I like a dark techno/shiny look for my system - well that's not going to really jive with the fun happy balloons I will have to see up until login ;-). It's not easy to switch those out. (I've seen quite a few complaints to this end on fedoraforum and on IRC.) We also want to make it easier for folks to remix and customize Fedora for redistribution. We will make this much more difficult for these folks if every nook and cranny of the OS has overly thematic artwork. Fedora is even more of an 'upstream' now. With those things in mind, a good approach I think could be to focus on the wallpaper and GDM and tone down the rest. We can still make a big impression and 'keep up the tradition' or whatever, and use the wallpaper and gdm theme to showcase what FOSS graphics tools can do, but still keep happy those folks who like personalizing their desktop and don't agree with our style by leaving the rest plainer in comparison. Another random idea - as each of us go through the process of actually implementing the artwork, if we took good notes we could write up a series of how-tos that would help folks who want to spin their own Fedora distros figure out how to customize the theme of their spin. We could even publish these in Red Hat Magazine under the Open Palette column that Nicu and I started. >> - Personally, I'd like to explore a somewhat different style of artwork >> for F8; something much less branded and image-based (maybe stripes :-) Heh ;) >> -- if only because the F7 artwork is pretty much at the top of the >> quality scale for this kind of heavily image-based, branded artwork (as >> the initial F7 reviews show), and will be hard to top... > > I agree about exploring a new style because I think we should bring > something fresh in each release and because is fun to explore different > styles. +1 I can think of two potential next steps - 1) Let's start the theme concept 3-round process again. Let's nail down all the details right here ASAP so we can write up the announcement - what parts of the theme will be 'thematic' vs which will be toned down, and a schedule of how the round process will go. I propose that we basically announce that this go-round we are focusing mainly on the wallpaper and login designs to serve as the 'showcase' for the release's artwork, and the rest of the artwork (whatever the bootup process will entail, whether it be something new or grub/rhgb, and the installer/firstboot artwork) will be toned-down and less thematic. 2) We should have a general discussion here on list to get our thoughts out on where F8's artwork could go. What desktop wallpaper are you using these days? Have you seen any cool ones lately? Seen any cool current graphic design in general lately? Have an idea for a nice style we could use? Send it to the list and we can discuss and try to come up with a general style to push for. :) What kinds of feedback have you heard on the Fedora 7 theme? What have you heard about other distro's themes? Do we want to get into photomanip, 3d rendering, vector-based, or some combo of the three? Does this sound reasonable? ~m From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Wed Jun 6 15:50:48 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 17:50:48 +0200 (CEST) Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> Message-ID: <40024.192.54.193.51.1181145048.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Mer 6 juin 2007 17:20, M?ir?n Duffy a ?crit : > 2) We should have a general discussion here on list to get our > thoughts out on where F8's artwork could go. Daring thought : have a non-blue wallpaper (blue is great but there are other colors too. Fedora theming have bordered on the monochrome those past releases) -- Nicolas Mailhot From caleb at ninjatails.com Wed Jun 6 17:02:00 2007 From: caleb at ninjatails.com (Caleb Wellauer) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 12:02:00 -0500 Subject: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 15, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: <20070606160006.1B5BF73B88@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20070606160006.1B5BF73B88@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1181149320.3164.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> > - I haven't heard much about the status of the Echo icon theme lately; > are you hoping to have this in good enough shape to become the default > in F8 ? We also need to redo the experiment to include svns. After looking at the Echo icons again, they look about 3/4 of the way done, and since it's summer, some of the vacationers might get cracking on that, I think. I know I am. :) > - Personally, I'd like to explore a somewhat different style of artwork > for F8; something much less branded and image-based (maybe stripes :-) > -- if only because the F7 artwork is pretty much at the top of the > quality scale for this kind of heavily image-based, branded artwork (as > the initial F7 reviews show), and will be hard to top... I... somewhat agree. I know I personally always go in and change the theme of the whole system when I install Fedora :P But stripes doesn't really sound like the way to go for me. I, for one, like the eyecandy type of themes, like gel, and I've already seen it in the Echo icon theme. (Maybe we could develop a similar window theme???) > Daring thought : have a non-blue wallpaper (blue is great but there > are other colors too. Fedora theming have bordered on the monochrome > those past releases) I agree, but I think most people are used to blue-ish, but maybe adding a contrasting color, like orange, to it might brighten it up some. They look pretty good, in my opinion (I'd know, because those are the two colors I use all the time). From mmahut at fedoraproject.org Wed Jun 6 17:11:48 2007 From: mmahut at fedoraproject.org (Marek Mahut) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:11:48 +0200 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> Hey all, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Matthias Clasen wrote: >> Some unsorted thoughts to start a discussion about artwork for F8: >> >> - As most people will probably have noticed by now, Diana is longer with >> Red Hat, and it looks unlikely that we will have a full-time artist that >> can help with the artwork in time for F8. > > Do you think is the case for us to start a 3 round process similar with > the one proposed for F7? - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/FC7Themes > We can easily adapt it with dates following the F8 schedule. I think it's a good idea. Why not involve schools for example? I know a very nice info-graphic school in Brussels, I'll drop them a mail, maybe they are interested to help. >> - Personally, I'd like to explore a somewhat different style of artwork >> for F8; something much less branded and image-based (maybe stripes :-) >> -- if only because the F7 artwork is pretty much at the top of the >> quality scale for this kind of heavily image-based, branded artwork (as >> the initial F7 reviews show), and will be hard to top... > > I agree about exploring a new style because I think we should bring > something fresh in each release and because is fun to explore different > styles. > >> - The desktop team has started to work on improving the graphical boot >> (see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureBetterStartup ). If >> we can land this for F8, it will will mean quite a few changes to what >> artwork is required for branding the boot (all for the better, less >> images and less awkward restrictions on image formats). It is however, >> blocking on kernel feature that we are currently not very confident to >> have in the F8 timeframe. > > We can focus on the overall style in the beginning and when the time > comes to create the individual images (probably around F8T2 or even a > little later) probably you will have a better idea about this blocker. > -- Marek Mahut Tel.: +420-532-294-111 (ex. 826-2046) Fedora Ambassador GSM: +420-731-076-674 http://www.fedoraproject.org http://www.jamendo.com ____________________________________________________________________ From duffy at redhat.com Wed Jun 6 17:41:08 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 13:41:08 -0400 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> Hi Marek! Marek Mahut wrote: > I think it's a good idea. Why not involve schools for example? I know a > very nice info-graphic school in Brussels, I'll drop them a mail, maybe > they are interested to help. This is a good idea; the one thing I am concerned about is that the artwork is produced using FOSS tools like Inkscape, Gimp, and Blender. When promoting the theme development process to groups outside of Fedora as a way to get them involved in Fedora, I suggest that you emphasize the use of FOSS tools. Maybe this is far-fetched but I believe the artwork for Fedora should be used as a showcase to demonstrate what can be done with the tools available and shipped with Fedora. ~m From duffy at redhat.com Wed Jun 6 17:43:32 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 13:43:32 -0400 Subject: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 15, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: <1181149320.3164.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20070606160006.1B5BF73B88@hormel.redhat.com> <1181149320.3164.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4666F244.5030503@redhat.com> Caleb Wellauer wrote: > I... somewhat agree. I know I personally always go in and change the > theme of the whole system when I install Fedora :P But stripes doesn't > really sound like the way to go for me. I think Matthias was more referring to a meme folks on Planet GNOME have been following lately with stripes :) Eg from Bastien's blog: http://hadessuk.blogspot.com/search/label/stripes ~m From markg85 at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 18:03:40 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 20:03:40 +0200 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> @ the school idea. i like that alot! @ a possible new theme for F8 first i would like to say that a 3 round theme "battle" like with F7 would be nice About the new theme itself.. i think fedora should drop the default gnome look and create a real theme... not that the current default themes (gnome/kde) are bad.. just that a completely different theme could be good for fedora. i personally would go for a soft and smooth theme. - The desktop team has started to work on improving the graphical boot > (see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureBetterStartup ). If > we can land this for F8, it will will mean quite a few changes to what > artwork is required for branding the boot (all for the better, less > images and less awkward restrictions on image formats). It is however, > blocking on kernel feature that we are currently not very confident to > have in the F8 timeframe. Did you ever tried PCLinuxOS? it`s a good looking operating system which is/was mandriva based. that os doesn`t have one single kernel (debug) message at boot and starts graphical. i think that`s something that fedora _needs_ and a faster (or smarter) init system. 2007/6/6, M?ir?n Duffy : > > Hi Marek! > > Marek Mahut wrote: > > I think it's a good idea. Why not involve schools for example? I know a > > very nice info-graphic school in Brussels, I'll drop them a mail, maybe > > they are interested to help. > > This is a good idea; the one thing I am concerned about is that the > artwork is produced using FOSS tools like Inkscape, Gimp, and Blender. > When promoting the theme development process to groups outside of Fedora > as a way to get them involved in Fedora, I suggest that you emphasize > the use of FOSS tools. > > Maybe this is far-fetched but I believe the artwork for Fedora should be > used as a showcase to demonstrate what can be done with the tools > available and shipped with Fedora. > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Wed Jun 6 18:14:21 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:14:21 -0700 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4666F97D.8010604@thefinalzone.com> Matthias Clasen a ??crit : > - I haven't heard much about the status of the Echo icon theme lately; > are you hoping to have this in good enough shape to become the default > in F8 ? We also need to redo the experiment to include svns > Few notes - SVG issues are fixed although some icons need rework i.e fast forward. - echo-pull script is broken when running on x86-64 system. ./echo_pull.py Traceback (most recent call last): File "./echo_pull.py", line 367, in main() File "./echo_pull.py", line 335, in main parser.parse(icon_mapping_xml) File "/usr/lib64/python2.5/site-packages/_xmlplus/sax/expatreader.py", line 103, in parse source = saxutils.prepare_input_source(source) File "/usr/lib64/python2.5/site-packages/_xmlplus/sax/saxutils.py", line 524, in prepare_input_source f = urllib2.urlopen(source.getSystemId()) File "/usr/lib64/python2.5/urllib2.py", line 121, in urlopen return _opener.open(url, data) File "/usr/lib64/python2.5/urllib2.py", line 366, in open protocol = req.get_type() File "/usr/lib64/python2.5/urllib2.py", line 241, in get_type raise ValueError, "unknown url type: %s" % self.__original ValueError: unknown url type: /usr/share/icon-naming-utils/legacy-icon-mapping.xml - Considering finding a better host for icons or improving the upload method for the wiki. - Work on echo icons is resuming now =) Luya From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Jun 6 18:50:19 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 00:20:19 +0530 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> Message-ID: <466701EB.8060004@fedoraproject.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > 2) We should have a general discussion here on list to get our thoughts > out on where F8's artwork could go. What desktop wallpaper are you using > these days? Have you seen any cool ones lately? Seen any cool current > graphic design in general lately? Have an idea for a nice style we could > use? Send it to the list and we can discuss and try to come up with a > general style to push for. :) What kinds of feedback have you heard on > the Fedora 7 theme? What have you heard about other distro's themes? Do > we want to get into photomanip, 3d rendering, vector-based, or some > combo of the three? One thing that has frequently been mentioned by some reviews including the distrowatch one at http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20070604#feature is that the clearlooks theme looks distinctly dry compared to the polished artwork in GDM, wallpaper etc. I think folks are looking for a more glossy theme. Rahul From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Wed Jun 6 18:55:32 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 20:55:32 +0200 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> Hi folks, I am at the beginning of the exams, so I have not much time left now for Fedora, yet I'll start working on Echo again in after I am done with the exams (hopefully)... I also have some comments and suggestions that fits into this thread. On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 20:03 +0200, Mark wrote: > @ the school idea. > i like that alot! > +1 > @ a possible new theme for F8 > first i would like to say that a 3 round theme "battle" like with F7 > would be nice +1 > About the new theme itself.. i think fedora should drop the default > gnome look and create a real theme... not that the current default > themes (gnome/kde) are bad.. just that a completely different theme > could be good for fedora. i personally would go for a soft and smooth > theme. Yep, I though about it. I like clearlooks, and I like it very much, but there is nothing of Fedora about it, and the default metacity theme is not that good. I think that we, the artwork group, should define the fedora look and feel completely. We should not restrict ourselves to Echo icons and cursors and wallpaper related artwork. I heard comments that Fedora 7 look is not bad, but its somehow incomplete, not unified. We need to improve that. Firstly, we need to improve the coverage of the Echo theme. The icons that are on the eyes of most of fedora users should be high priority. We should cover the icons used by the basic applications used in Fedora. Secondly, we need new wallpaper related artwork. I am for the three-round competition and smooth boot process with as little changing-of-screen's as possible. Next, our goal should be defining Fedora widget style and window manager style. We need to show users that we are Fedora, not just GNOME or KDE. That means, that we need to create new gtk/qt theme, possibly we could start with clearlooks, its really nice, and that we need metacity/kwm theme as well. And they should fit nice together, IMO the should not be too shiny or eye-candy, they should be decent and nice -- so that you will not get bored after using them for a few years ;-) Also, I was said, that the notification message window that is used e.g. for notifying user about available updates is horrible. So we should check, how much themable it is and prepare a theme for it, again that fits well to the rest of the desktop. I will repeat the main idea again: we need UNIFIED look in the default fedora artwork. That's what the users see in reviews and what they see after they install fedora, and what they see in Live CDs. We must focus on the unity a completeness. We must define the Fedora Artwork. When user see a screenshot with default artwork selected, he must know that it's Fedora. And to propose some less needed yet quite interesting and valuable projects, I would also suggest to to make Echo theme for themable apps used in Fedora, e.g. firefox or thunderbird (especially the latter?s Vista look fits really horrible to the rest of the Fedora desktop). And just my opinion about colours... well.. I really like Fedora blue and would stick to it. People have blue already connected with Fedora. And I think blue is the very colour that fits Fedora better. But, as was mentioned earlier by someone else, we should not overblueize it... :D Thanks, Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Wed Jun 6 18:36:36 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:36:36 -0700 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <4666FEB4.10606@thefinalzone.com> Matthias Clasen a ??crit : > - I haven't heard much about the status of the Echo icon theme lately; > are you hoping to have this in good enough shape to become the default > in F8 ? We also need to redo the experiment to include svns. > Few notes - SVG issues are fixed although some icons need rework i.e fast forward. - echo-pull script is broken when running on x86-64 system. ./echo_pull.py Traceback (most recent call last): File "./echo_pull.py", line 367, in main() File "./echo_pull.py", line 335, in main parser.parse(icon_mapping_xml) File "/usr/lib64/python2.5/site-packages/_xmlplus/sax/expatreader.py", line 103, in parse source = saxutils.prepare_input_source(source) File "/usr/lib64/python2.5/site-packages/_xmlplus/sax/saxutils.py", line 524, in prepare_input_source f = urllib2.urlopen(source.getSystemId()) File "/usr/lib64/python2.5/urllib2.py", line 121, in urlopen return _opener.open(url, data) File "/usr/lib64/python2.5/urllib2.py", line 366, in open protocol = req.get_type() File "/usr/lib64/python2.5/urllib2.py", line 241, in get_type raise ValueError, "unknown url type: %s" % self.__original ValueError: unknown url type: /usr/share/icon-naming-utils/legacy-icon-mapping.xml - Considering finding a better host for icons or improving the upload method for the wiki. - Work on echo icons is resuming now =) Luya From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Wed Jun 6 18:45:03 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:45:03 -0700 Subject: test Message-ID: <466700AF.30207@thefinalzone.com> just testing. It appears the mail list has issues because my replies are not displayed. -- ????D0 References: <466700AF.30207@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <1181157999.14160.25.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 20:45 +0200, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > just testing. It appears the mail list has issues because my replies are > not displayed. > I see three messages from you coming today. This one [1] and two identical Re: F8 artwork [2][3]. Maybe the problem is somewhere else? [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-June/msg00015.html [2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-June/msg00011.html [3] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-June/msg00014.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From baerjj at gmail.com Wed Jun 6 22:34:49 2007 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 18:34:49 -0400 Subject: F8 artwork Message-ID: <46673689.6040509@gmail.com> All, +1 to all of the comments on this thread. But we need to get some direction from Red Hat as it's my understanding Red Hat is the owner of the desktop artwork. I'm really pleased on how things are coming around as I see the preliminary F8 release schedule is already out! Mo, can you make an inquiry to the Red Hat desktop team as to what their desire is? John From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Jun 6 23:00:29 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 04:30:29 +0530 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <46673689.6040509@gmail.com> References: <46673689.6040509@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46673C8D.6080608@fedoraproject.org> John Baer wrote: > All, > > +1 to all of the comments on this thread. But we need to get some > direction from Red Hat as it's my understanding Red Hat is the owner of > the desktop artwork. > > I'm really pleased on how things are coming around as I see the > preliminary F8 release schedule is already out! > > Mo, can you make an inquiry to the Red Hat desktop team as to what their > desire is? Mathias Clasen who started this thread is part of the Red Hat Desktop team and has clearly outlined what the desire is. Did you miss that? Rahul From mmahut at fedoraproject.org Wed Jun 6 23:44:58 2007 From: mmahut at fedoraproject.org (Marek Mahut) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 01:44:58 +0200 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> Message-ID: <466746FA.7080602@fedoraproject.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi Marek! Hey Mo, > Marek Mahut wrote: >> I think it's a good idea. Why not involve schools for example? I know >> a very nice info-graphic school in Brussels, I'll drop them a mail, >> maybe they are interested to help. > > This is a good idea; the one thing I am concerned about is that the > artwork is produced using FOSS tools like Inkscape, Gimp, and Blender. > When promoting the theme development process to groups outside of Fedora > as a way to get them involved in Fedora, I suggest that you emphasize > the use of FOSS tools. I'm afraid that this is the biggest problem. Many school are using windowz or macosx with photoshop. Maybe not because it's better, but because the school has a partnership with that big software vendor. I'm pretty sure that children are using pirated versions of those softwares at home :( > Maybe this is far-fetched but I believe the artwork for Fedora should be > used as a showcase to demonstrate what can be done with the tools > available and shipped with Fedora. Maybe some virtual workshop? With demos? > ~m -- Marek Mahut Tel.: +420-532-294-111 (ex. 826-2046) Fedora Ambassador GSM: +420-731-076-674 http://www.fedoraproject.org http://www.jamendo.com ____________________________________________________________________ From mmahut at fedoraproject.org Wed Jun 6 23:47:56 2007 From: mmahut at fedoraproject.org (Marek Mahut) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 01:47:56 +0200 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <466747AC.4020704@fedoraproject.org> Mark wrote: [...] > @ a possible new theme for F8 > first i would like to say that a 3 round theme "battle" like with F7 > would be nice [...] We should not forget about prices for winner(s). Fedora caps, tshirts, gadgets or maybe even a free sits in GLS classes. -- Marek Mahut Tel.: +420-532-294-111 (ex. 826-2046) Fedora Ambassador GSM: +420-731-076-674 http://www.fedoraproject.org http://www.jamendo.com ____________________________________________________________________ From mclasen at redhat.com Thu Jun 7 02:55:31 2007 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 22:55:31 -0400 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1181184931.3901.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 11:20 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > With those things in mind, a good approach I think could be to focus on > the wallpaper and GDM and tone down the rest. We can still make a big > impression and 'keep up the tradition' or whatever, and use the > wallpaper and gdm theme to showcase what FOSS graphics tools can do, but > still keep happy those folks who like personalizing their desktop and > don't agree with our style by leaving the rest plainer in comparison. > On the topic of the login screen, I forgot to mention that we are also considering switching to the plain greeter to improve the accessibility situation on the login screen. If we go forward with this idea, it would imply some changes to the themeability of the login screen. Matthias From duffy at redhat.com Thu Jun 7 03:45:07 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrcKtbiBEdWZmeQ==?=) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:45:07 -0400 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <1181184931.3901.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> <1181184931.3901.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <46677F43.2040507@redhat.com> Matthias Clasen wrote: > On the topic of the login screen, I forgot to mention that we are also > considering switching to the plain greeter to improve the accessibility > situation on the login screen. If we go forward with this idea, it would > imply some changes to the themeability of the login screen. I talked to Brian Cameron a bit about GDM theme accessibility at the last Boston GNOME Summit, and from him I understood that only the positions of some of the buttons would have to be changed around and some buttons that are not currently displayed would have to be. But beyond that I don't see how making the GDM theme more accessible would necessarily change the themeability of the login screen? ~m From mclasen at redhat.com Thu Jun 7 03:45:22 2007 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:45:22 -0400 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <46677F43.2040507@redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> <1181184931.3901.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <46677F43.2040507@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1181187922.3901.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 23:45 -0400, M?ir??n Duffy wrote: > Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On the topic of the login screen, I forgot to mention that we are also > > considering switching to the plain greeter to improve the accessibility > > situation on the login screen. If we go forward with this idea, it would > > imply some changes to the themeability of the login screen. > > I talked to Brian Cameron a bit about GDM theme accessibility at the > last Boston GNOME Summit, and from him I understood that only the > positions of some of the buttons would have to be changed around and > some buttons that are not currently displayed would have to be. But > beyond that I don't see how making the GDM theme more accessible would > necessarily change the themeability of the login screen? Changing to the plain greeter (you can try it out in gdmsetup) would mean theming by background image + whatever length we want to go to theme a regular gtk+ application, as opposed to the somewhat obscure and uncooperative canvas format of the themed greeter. The themed lock dialog and the F7 incarnation of rhgb are proof that this does not really restrict the extent to which the screen can be themed. From duffy at redhat.com Thu Jun 7 03:55:43 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrcKtbiBEdWZmeQ==?=) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:55:43 -0400 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <1181187922.3901.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> <1181184931.3901.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <46677F43.2040507@redhat.com> <1181187922.3901.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <466781BF.8090906@redhat.com> Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 23:45 -0400, M?ir??n Duffy wrote: >> Matthias Clasen wrote: >>> On the topic of the login screen, I forgot to mention that we are also >>> considering switching to the plain greeter to improve the accessibility >>> situation on the login screen. If we go forward with this idea, it would >>> imply some changes to the themeability of the login screen. >> I talked to Brian Cameron a bit about GDM theme accessibility at the >> last Boston GNOME Summit, and from him I understood that only the >> positions of some of the buttons would have to be changed around and >> some buttons that are not currently displayed would have to be. But >> beyond that I don't see how making the GDM theme more accessible would >> necessarily change the themeability of the login screen? > > Changing to the plain greeter (you can try it out in gdmsetup) would > mean theming by background image + whatever length we want to go to > theme a regular gtk+ application, as opposed to the somewhat obscure > and uncooperative canvas format of the themed greeter. The themed lock > dialog and the F7 incarnation of rhgb are proof that this does not > really restrict the extent to which the screen can be themed. Oh okay. Would it not be acceptable if a nice GDM theme was proposed that didn't use the plain greeter yet had all the necessary buttons and menu items to make it accessible? ~m From mclasen at redhat.com Thu Jun 7 03:55:54 2007 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:55:54 -0400 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <466781BF.8090906@redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> <1181184931.3901.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <46677F43.2040507@redhat.com> <1181187922.3901.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <466781BF.8090906@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1181188554.3901.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 23:55 -0400, M?ir??n Duffy wrote: > Oh okay. Would it not be acceptable if a nice GDM theme was proposed > that didn't use the plain greeter yet had all the necessary buttons and > menu items to make it accessible? I don't necessarily agree with Brian's assessment that all thats needed for an accessible greeter is enough buttons and menu items. DavidZ can provide much more detail about the disadvantages of the themed greeter from an a11y perspective. From duffy at redhat.com Thu Jun 7 04:21:19 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrcKtbiBEdWZmeQ==?=) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 00:21:19 -0400 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <1181188554.3901.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> <1181184931.3901.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <46677F43.2040507@redhat.com> <1181187922.3901.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <466781BF.8090906@redhat.com> <1181188554.3901.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <466787BF.4020303@redhat.com> Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 23:55 -0400, M?ir??n Duffy wrote: > >> Oh okay. Would it not be acceptable if a nice GDM theme was proposed >> that didn't use the plain greeter yet had all the necessary buttons and >> menu items to make it accessible? > > I don't necessarily agree with Brian's assessment that all thats needed > for an accessible greeter is enough buttons and menu items. DavidZ can > provide much more detail about the disadvantages of the themed greeter > from an a11y perspective. Okay. I hope I'm not misrepresenting what he said, but it really didn't seem like it would be a problem accessibility-wise to use a themed greeter at the time is all. ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Jun 7 08:18:05 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:18:05 +0300 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4667BF3D.5060601@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: >> Do you think is the case for us to start a 3 round process similar >> with the one proposed for F7? - >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/FC7Themes >> We can easily adapt it with dates following the F8 schedule. > > +1 OK, I quickly kicked a page in the wiki with content mostly copied/adapted from the F7 page and all dates put as TBD: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes > I do not think that it's a matter of being 'hard to top', though. I Indeed, the perception of the artwork is so subjective that is impossible to define "hard to top" > think especially for the artwork that is not easily changed by end users > (wallpaper and GDM theme are easiest to swap out), we have to think > about the artwork forcing a particular theme down user's throats when Maybe we will think again and include at least the graphics for the previous release by default to leave a bit of choice for the users > their tastes are quite different. E.g., there's balloons in grub, if I > like a dark techno/shiny look for my system - well that's not going to > really jive with the fun happy balloons I will have to see up until > login ;-). It's not easy to switch those out. (I've seen quite a few > complaints to this end on fedoraforum and on IRC.) With RHGB being the hardest to switch, but RHGB is on its way out. Either way we take, some users will prefer something different. > We also want to make it easier for folks to remix and customize Fedora > for redistribution. We will make this much more difficult for these > folks if every nook and cranny of the OS has overly thematic artwork. > Fedora is even more of an 'upstream' now. How about two version of the artwork, a basic one and a derivative of it for the final desktop, the derivative being on equal foot with other derivative distros can do? > With those things in mind, a good approach I think could be to focus on > the wallpaper and GDM and tone down the rest. We can still make a big > impression and 'keep up the tradition' or whatever, and use the > wallpaper and gdm theme to showcase what FOSS graphics tools can do, but > still keep happy those folks who like personalizing their desktop and > don't agree with our style by leaving the rest plainer in comparison. I am even stronger: for now we should focus on a metaphor (along the lines of DNA and FlyingHigh), the rest is implementation detail. > I can think of two potential next steps - > > 1) Let's start the theme concept 3-round process again. Let's nail down > all the details right here ASAP so we can write up the announcement - > what parts of the theme will be 'thematic' vs which will be toned down, > and a schedule of how the round process will go. I propose that we > basically announce that this go-round we are focusing mainly on the > wallpaper and login designs to serve as the 'showcase' for the release's > artwork, and the rest of the artwork (whatever the bootup process will > entail, whether it be something new or grub/rhgb, and the > installer/firstboot artwork) will be toned-down and less thematic. I am for focusing on the concept (metaphor), illustrated with just a single image (wallpaper), I think we can mentally extrapolate from it and have a good idea about how it work for the other elements. Punctually, I think we should stay with blue as the dominant color and agree about reducing the usage of the logo. > 2) We should have a general discussion here on list to get our thoughts > out on where F8's artwork could go. What desktop wallpaper are you using > these days? Have you seen any cool ones lately? Seen any cool current Right now I am using the darker variant of FlyingHigh posted eralier on this list by Kelly: http://crystalsanctuary.rpgsource.net/dp_stuff/fedora/flyinghigh.jpg but this is something of the past, F8 has to be different. > graphic design in general lately? Have an idea for a nice style we could > use? Send it to the list and we can discuss and try to come up with a > general style to push for. :) What kinds of feedback have you heard on > the Fedora 7 theme? What have you heard about other distro's themes? Do > we want to get into photomanip, 3d rendering, vector-based, or some > combo of the three? I would wait to see the ideas to come and judge later which style of work fit it better. And we may expect the unexpected (like how Mola surprised everybody with his 3D take for DNA). Question: F7 changed the icon theme to Myst partly to match the blue of the rest of the desktop. We will do something similar in F8 or the opposite (do the desktop artwork to fit the icon theme). The same about Metacity. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Thu Jun 7 08:21:57 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 04:21:57 -0400 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> Quoting Martin Sourada : > Hi folks, > > I am at the beginning of the exams, so I have not much time left now for > Fedora, yet I'll start working on Echo again in after I am done with the > exams (hopefully)... I also have some comments and suggestions that fits > into this thread. > > On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 20:03 +0200, Mark wrote: > > @ the school idea. > > i like that alot! > > > +1 > > > @ a possible new theme for F8 > > first i would like to say that a 3 round theme "battle" like with F7 > > would be nice > +1 Who will start the first round? > > Next, our goal should be defining Fedora widget style and window manager > style. We need to show users that we are Fedora, not just GNOME or KDE. > That means, that we need to create new gtk/qt theme, possibly we could > start with clearlooks, its really nice, and that we need metacity/kwm > theme as well. And they should fit nice together, IMO the should not be > too shiny or eye-candy, they should be decent and nice -- so that you > will not get bored after using them for a few years ;-) There are tools available for making theme. Murrine engine, TheWidgetFactory to name a few. The real challenge is to make a very good theme that both combine elegance and usability. We should start by making some mockups and getting some support from Fedora Desktop team. I am closely watching the Sugar interface from OLPC project and looking to take some ideas for Fedora Artwork. > Also, I was said, that the notification message window that is used e.g. > for notifying user about available updates is horrible. So we should > check, how much themable it is and prepare a theme for it, again that > fits well to the rest of the desktop. True. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Thu Jun 7 09:46:59 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 02:46:59 -0700 Subject: test In-Reply-To: <1181157999.14160.25.camel@pc-notebook> References: <466700AF.30207@thefinalzone.com> <1181157999.14160.25.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <4667D413.6070502@thefinalzone.com> Martin Sourada a ??crit : > On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 20:45 +0200, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > >> just testing. It appears the mail list has issues because my replies are >> not displayed. >> >> > > I see three messages from you coming today. This one [1] and two > identical Re: F8 artwork [2][3]. Maybe the problem is somewhere else? > Probably the server was too slow to relay messages. -- ????D0 References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> i will TRY and make a theme how i like it. expect it to be tiny :) i will make a mockup as soon as i get home. i`m not certain if i`m capable of making a complete theme but if i can i will make it for KDE (time isn`t much of a issue with the upcomming vacation (2 1/2 months) expect a mockup here soon (today or within a few days) > Who will start the first round? So yea if i`m the first who can actually show something with theming (not mocking up but really making it work in kde) than i would like to be the first one :) 2007/6/7, Luya Tshimbalanga : > > Quoting Martin Sourada : > > > Hi folks, > > > > I am at the beginning of the exams, so I have not much time left now for > > Fedora, yet I'll start working on Echo again in after I am done with the > > exams (hopefully)... I also have some comments and suggestions that fits > > into this thread. > > > > On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 20:03 +0200, Mark wrote: > > > @ the school idea. > > > i like that alot! > > > > > +1 > > > > > @ a possible new theme for F8 > > > first i would like to say that a 3 round theme "battle" like with F7 > > > would be nice > > +1 > Who will start the first round? > > > > > > Next, our goal should be defining Fedora widget style and window manager > > style. We need to show users that we are Fedora, not just GNOME or KDE. > > That means, that we need to create new gtk/qt theme, possibly we could > > start with clearlooks, its really nice, and that we need metacity/kwm > > theme as well. And they should fit nice together, IMO the should not be > > too shiny or eye-candy, they should be decent and nice -- so that you > > will not get bored after using them for a few years ;-) > > There are tools available for making theme. Murrine engine, > TheWidgetFactory to > name a few. The real challenge is to make a very good theme that both > combine > elegance and usability. We should start by making some mockups and getting > some > support from Fedora Desktop team. I am closely watching the Sugar > interface > from OLPC project and looking to take some ideas for Fedora Artwork. > > > > Also, I was said, that the notification message window that is used e.g. > > for notifying user about available updates is horrible. So we should > > check, how much themable it is and prepare a theme for it, again that > > fits well to the rest of the desktop. > > True. > > -- > Luya Tshimbalanga > Fedora Project contributor > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 13:25:19 2007 From: ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 14:25:19 +0100 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0706070625t195d864dg42dae5c16fcd94ef@mail.gmail.com> On 06/06/07, Matthias Clasen wrote: > - Personally, I'd like to explore a somewhat different style of artwork > for F8; something much less branded and image-based (maybe stripes :-) > -- if only because the F7 artwork is pretty much at the top of the > quality scale for this kind of heavily image-based, branded artwork (as > the initial F7 reviews show), and will be hard to top... It will be very difficult to beat the FC5/6/7 artwork (I prefered the 6 then 5). The stripes were nice in FC5 Bubbles but got a bit tiresome after a few months. I think I shall try some vector-style stuff like my Arty Farty wallpaper (more later) which is clean yet has a good impact. > - I haven't heard much about the status of the Echo icon theme lately; > are you hoping to have this in good enough shape to become the default > in F8 ? We also need to redo the experiment to include svns. I hope to find some time durig the summer to continue work on Echo, I have been swamped with college work lately as I am reaching the big crescendo and final project. I also am on holiday for the first two weeks in July but after that, I'm all yours ;-) On 06/06/07, Nicu Buculei wrote: > I agree about exploring a new style because I think we should bring > something fresh in each release and because is fun to explore different > styles. +1, as I say I liked the FC5 style. My current desktops are pretty minimal as they are colourful yet not distracting. On 06/06/07, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > 2) We should have a general discussion here on list to get our thoughts > out on where F8's artwork could go. What desktop wallpaper are you using > these days? Have you seen any cool ones lately? Seen any cool current > graphic design in general lately? As I say, my desktop's are fairly minimal. Elements for my E17 : http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4elementsfedorakp0.jpg Arty Farty in my KDE : http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=artyfartyvb9.jpg FreeBSD wallpaper : http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=freebsdwallpaperbg5.png Some kind of designs like this can be trendy but carefully worked! http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=homebackgreenbdx7.gif http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/50077920/ http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/46129029/ On 06/06/07, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Daring thought : have a non-blue wallpaper (blue is great but there > are other colors too. Fedora theming have bordered on the monochrome > those past releases) I'm afraid I'm against that as the blue is all over the place; the logo colours and prominent areas of Echo icons are various shades of blue. On 06/06/07, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > One thing that has frequently been mentioned by some reviews including > the distrowatch one at > http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20070604#feature is that the > clearlooks theme looks distinctly dry compared to the polished artwork > in GDM, wallpaper etc. I think folks are looking for a more glossy theme. Heh, I'm runnning Enlightenment E17, Entrace and all :-) On 07/06/07, Nicu Buculei wrote: > I am for focusing on the concept (metaphor), illustrated with just a > single image (wallpaper), I think we can mentally extrapolate from it > and have a good idea about how it work for the other elements. Me too, I have found creating the wallpaper and then expanding into other areas to be the easiest and it create a more unified look. Maybe using the GDM themes etc. as colourful backgrounds without much detail might work depending on the individual design. > Punctually, I think we should stay with blue as the dominant color and > agree about reducing the usage of the logo. I quite like the logo on my wallpapers, even if it is small. This will help with the identification from screenshots. From duffy at redhat.com Thu Jun 7 14:04:20 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 10:04:20 -0400 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <9c3bfa1d0706070625t195d864dg42dae5c16fcd94ef@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> <9c3bfa1d0706070625t195d864dg42dae5c16fcd94ef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46681064.5090504@redhat.com> Ben Arnold wrote: > Some kind of designs like this can be trendy but carefully worked! > > http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=homebackgreenbdx7.gif > http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/50077920/ > http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/46129029/ Ooh I like those last two. Have you ever seen JDe's work on deviantart? I've been following her for a while, she does that style a lot. She is quite good at integrating vector art with photomanips. Some of my favorites of hers: - http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/47110792/?qo=9&q=by%3Ajde&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps <= i love the texture of this one - http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/42923899/?qo=13&q=by%3Ajde&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps <= love all the layers and the curves - http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/41350296/?qo=14&q=by%3Ajde&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps <= it might be cool to have a mostly dark wallpaper with an area like this to give it depth - http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/36901691/?qo=33&q=by%3Ajde&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps <= 3d + vector style that was super popular a couple years back - three with a similar theme, kind of remind me of moholy-nagy's works: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/35595972/?qo=49&q=by%3Ajde&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/33555696/?qo=69&q=by%3Ajde&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/35744543/?qo=48&q=by%3Ajde&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps ~m From ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 14:27:59 2007 From: ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:27:59 +0100 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <46681064.5090504@redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> <9c3bfa1d0706070625t195d864dg42dae5c16fcd94ef@mail.gmail.com> <46681064.5090504@redhat.com> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0706070727k185212cbr8d2006ef50cb0720@mail.gmail.com> On 07/06/07, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Have you ever seen JDe's work on deviantart? I've been following her for > a while, she does that style a lot. No, I haven't but I like some of them, especially > http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/41350296/?qo=14&q=by%3Ajde&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps > <= it might be cool to have a mostly dark wallpaper with an area like > this to give it depth but I don't know how well a photo wallpaper would work. > http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/36901691/?qo=33&q=by%3Ajde&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps > <= 3d + vector style that was super popular a couple years back http://smashmethod.deviantart.com/gallery is all I have to say about that. > - three with a similar theme, kind of remind me of moholy-nagy's works: > http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/35595972/?qo=49&q=by%3Ajde&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps > http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/33555696/?qo=69&q=by%3Ajde&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps > http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/35744543/?qo=48&q=by%3Ajde&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps Thanks for those; these three get closer as they go IMHO, I would feel more comfortable with a wallpaper that isn't too ... rich? ... as it may then appeal to more people. I'm sure if some love that 3D/abstract/bold/OTT-design-wise stuff they have a good collection themselves, in which they could find one to fit. The last one there seems best as the subject is enough to make in interesting. I'm inclined to be safe with it as it'll be a big jump from the FlyingHigh to something like http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/42418188 in one go. It may seem from the outside that we haven't made up our minds with regard to our style. What about something like this, http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37727936 as a more vector-style version /might/ work? -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From duffy at redhat.com Thu Jun 7 14:35:45 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 10:35:45 -0400 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <9c3bfa1d0706070727k185212cbr8d2006ef50cb0720@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> <9c3bfa1d0706070625t195d864dg42dae5c16fcd94ef@mail.gmail.com> <46681064.5090504@redhat.com> <9c3bfa1d0706070727k185212cbr8d2006ef50cb0720@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <466817C1.2000002@redhat.com> Ben Arnold wrote: > It may seem from the outside that we haven't made up our > minds with regard to our style. Well I don't know if we should even have to 'make up our mind.' I think it's cool to have a different look each time, it keeps people guessing and like I mentioned earlier, I think it's a good platform for showing off what FOSS creative software can do. > What about something like this, > http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37727936 > as a more vector-style version /might/ work? Oh my goodness that's gorgeous. Actually everything in his gallery is :) wowowow :) ~m From markg85 at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 14:57:41 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 16:57:41 +0200 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <9c3bfa1d0706070625t195d864dg42dae5c16fcd94ef@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> <9c3bfa1d0706070625t195d864dg42dae5c16fcd94ef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706070757n200be498j66e7c385b70f361@mail.gmail.com> damn this wallpaper: http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=freebsdwallpaperbg5.png loks extremely good!! do you have that one without the freebsd logo? and perhaps in widescreen? or even the source :) For the new theme: perhaps it needs to be somewhere in between of the Fedora core (1, 2, 3 and 4) and 7.. the simplicity of 1, 2, 3 or 4 and some of the arts of 7.. and i`m gonna start at a mockup right now. any suggestions? 2007/6/7, Ben Arnold : > > On 06/06/07, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > - Personally, I'd like to explore a somewhat different style of artwork > > for F8; something much less branded and image-based (maybe stripes :-) > > -- if only because the F7 artwork is pretty much at the top of the > > quality scale for this kind of heavily image-based, branded artwork (as > > the initial F7 reviews show), and will be hard to top... > > It will be very difficult to beat the FC5/6/7 artwork (I prefered the > 6 then 5). The stripes were nice in FC5 Bubbles but got a bit tiresome > after a few months. I think I shall try some vector-style stuff like > my Arty Farty wallpaper (more later) which is clean yet has a good > impact. > > > - I haven't heard much about the status of the Echo icon theme lately; > > are you hoping to have this in good enough shape to become the default > > in F8 ? We also need to redo the experiment to include svns. > > I hope to find some time durig the summer to continue work on Echo, I > have been swamped with college work lately as I am reaching the big > crescendo and final project. I also am on holiday for the first two > weeks in July but after that, I'm all yours ;-) > > > > On 06/06/07, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > I agree about exploring a new style because I think we should bring > > something fresh in each release and because is fun to explore different > > styles. > > +1, as I say I liked the FC5 style. My current desktops are pretty > minimal as they are colourful yet not distracting. > > > > On 06/06/07, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > > 2) We should have a general discussion here on list to get our thoughts > > out on where F8's artwork could go. What desktop wallpaper are you using > > these days? Have you seen any cool ones lately? Seen any cool current > > graphic design in general lately? > > As I say, my desktop's are fairly minimal. > > Elements for my E17 : > http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4elementsfedorakp0.jpg > Arty Farty in my KDE : > http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=artyfartyvb9.jpg > FreeBSD wallpaper : > http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=freebsdwallpaperbg5.png > > Some kind of designs like this can be trendy but carefully worked! > > http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=homebackgreenbdx7.gif > http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/50077920/ > http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/46129029/ > > > On 06/06/07, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Daring thought : have a non-blue wallpaper (blue is great but there > > are other colors too. Fedora theming have bordered on the monochrome > > those past releases) > > I'm afraid I'm against that as the blue is all over the place; the > logo colours and prominent areas of Echo icons are various shades of > blue. > > > > On 06/06/07, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > One thing that has frequently been mentioned by some reviews including > > the distrowatch one at > > http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20070604#feature is that the > > clearlooks theme looks distinctly dry compared to the polished artwork > > in GDM, wallpaper etc. I think folks are looking for a more glossy > theme. > > Heh, I'm runnning Enlightenment E17, Entrace and all :-) > > > > On 07/06/07, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > > I am for focusing on the concept (metaphor), illustrated with just a > > single image (wallpaper), I think we can mentally extrapolate from it > > and have a good idea about how it work for the other elements. > > Me too, I have found creating the wallpaper and then expanding into > other areas to be the easiest and it create a more unified look. Maybe > using the GDM themes etc. as colourful backgrounds without much detail > might work depending on the individual design. > > > Punctually, I think we should stay with blue as the dominant color and > > agree about reducing the usage of the logo. > > I quite like the logo on my wallpapers, even if it is small. This will > help with the identification from screenshots. > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 14:59:57 2007 From: ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:59:57 +0100 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <466817C1.2000002@redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> <9c3bfa1d0706070625t195d864dg42dae5c16fcd94ef@mail.gmail.com> <46681064.5090504@redhat.com> <9c3bfa1d0706070727k185212cbr8d2006ef50cb0720@mail.gmail.com> <466817C1.2000002@redhat.com> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0706070759y67918d16q4be16117aae91728@mail.gmail.com> On 07/06/07, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Well I don't know if we should even have to 'make up our mind.' I think > it's cool to have a different look each time, it keeps people guessing > and like I mentioned earlier, I think it's a good platform for showing > off what FOSS creative software can do. Whilst I agree that a range is always good, there must still be a tone set to match the product. A while ago (I don't have the references to hand) there were discussions about professional look of themes etc. which I feel should be more than a polished design. We have had black (4) light blue (5) dark blue (6) and now a very rich one (7) so if we create a orange one that has paint splashes, it might stand out a bit - in my opinion, not in a good way. The look should extend through releases to have a bit on continuity. If the Fedora logo and general colour scheme were rich red (ahem) or yellow, it would be the same if the next design were a pretty blue sky. I might just be a little reserved, though. > > What about something like this, > > http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37727936 > > as a more vector-style version /might/ work? > > Oh my goodness that's gorgeous. Actually everything in his gallery is :) > wowowow :) Smashy rocks. ./b -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 15:02:07 2007 From: ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 16:02:07 +0100 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706070757n200be498j66e7c385b70f361@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> <9c3bfa1d0706070625t195d864dg42dae5c16fcd94ef@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706070757n200be498j66e7c385b70f361@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0706070802o61ae0ff1n2dcf943eba5b3a08@mail.gmail.com> On 07/06/07, Mark wrote: > damn this wallpaper: > http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=freebsdwallpaperbg5.png > loks extremely good!! > > do you have that one without the freebsd logo? and perhaps in widescreen? or > even the source :) Google was my friend. I think I was searching for the Elements one at the time as I didn't have it on my memory stick. -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From stickster at gmail.com Thu Jun 7 21:57:58 2007 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:57:58 -0400 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <46681064.5090504@redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> <9c3bfa1d0706070625t195d864dg42dae5c16fcd94ef@mail.gmail.com> <46681064.5090504@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1181253478.3616.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Scattershot comments follow so I can get them out of my Drafts folder. As a non-artist contributor, I reserve the right to be completely ignored. ;-) On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 10:04 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Ben Arnold wrote: > > Some kind of designs like this can be trendy but carefully worked! > > > > http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=homebackgreenbdx7.gif > > http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/50077920/ > > http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/46129029/ > > Ooh I like those last two. > > Have you ever seen JDe's work on deviantart? I've been following her for > a while, she does that style a lot. She is quite good at integrating > vector art with photomanips. Some of my favorites of hers: [...snip...] I *LOVE* these kinds of vector/photorealistic combo styles. Provided the results could be made usable for the desktop (i.e. not clashing hard with usability viz. icons scattered on the workspace), this seems like an excellent way to go for F8. I know there's a bit of grumbling about blue, but IYAM that is a very general way to brand our desktop without overtly sticking so much logo{text,mark} in it. And speaking of icons, I want to mention again that some (?) of the Echo icons need revisiting for usability. Often these shapes are completely indistinguishable at small sizes, which happens frequently on 1280x960+ resolution monitors, both desktop and laptop. Those resolutions are no longer premium-priced gadgetry for the rich and famous. I still think the Tango SVG+XSLT solution is a very cool one, although I wonder if the short timescale for F8 release makes this unworkable until F9. Anyway, just my $0.02. I know M?ir?n and Fedora Artwork can do an excellent job leading the charge for a superb F8. -- Paul W. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From duffy at redhat.com Fri Jun 8 02:50:07 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrcKtbiBEdWZmeQ==?=) Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 22:50:07 -0400 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <4667BF3D.5060601@nicubunu.ro> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> <4667BF3D.5060601@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <4668C3DF.3020200@redhat.com> Nicu Buculei wrote: > OK, I quickly kicked a page in the wiki with content mostly > copied/adapted from the F7 page and all dates put as TBD: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes Nicu, this is great! Thanks!!! I looked at the F8 release schedule and the calendar and came up with the following (somewhat aggressive, but if all goes well we'll have everything for the feature freeze deadline) schedule: - Round 1 deadline: Monday July 2nd - Any ideas that don't have a formal proposal on the mailing list + a proposal page linked off of the F8Themes wiki page will be out of the running at this point. - Round 2 deadline: Monday July 20th - Any ideas that don't have fully fleshed-out and polished artwork, at least 1 wallpaper and let's say 3 supporting graphics, will be out of the running at this point. - Round 3 deadline: Monday August 20th (F8 feature freeze) - Any ideas that don't have fully-polished and implemented versions of the following will be out of the running: - wallpaper - gdm theme - bootup artwork (whether it's the new system or RHGB graphics and grub screen) - installer artwork (splash, banner, and 15-color anaconda graphic) - firstboot artwork (splash, banner) If we really, really get stuck and end up with more than one really awesome theme by the round 3 deadline, we can always hold a vote of Fedora contributors similar to the F7 naming vote process. I'm hoping that it won't be necessary, though. If we don't have any completely finished to the specifications above by the deadline, we can dig in and work on the one that's closest to being complete at that point. Do these dates make sense? If so, would anybody object to me going ahead and announcing the F8 theme process? - I'm thinking a Fedora News announcement, here on this list + marketing + websites list, fedoraforum.org, and I can make a post on Fedora Planet as well. -- On a related note, I would also like to add some more milestones/deadlines to the process even though they aren't part of the theme selection process. Please tell me if you think I'm completely insane with these items & deadlines. You see, I think we've gotten nipped by some of these, some very last minute, in previous releases :) So, we should just make a standard release-preparation process to prepare these materials ahead of time so the release goes more smoothly. Each of these could be on a site like our design queues, and folks could claim ownership of each to help get them done. Anyway, here's the milestones and dates I'm thinking of: - Milestone 4: Mon 10 Sept - concept discussion for F8 marketing materials on the marketing list. Come up with a standard tagline for the release the way we did "Reach higher" for the new static FPO website, and maybe some promo banner ideas as well. - Milestone 5: Mon 24 Sept - finalize artwork/design for F8 DVD/CD labels and sleeves. At least a professional-printer (eg screenprinting) ready version of each needs to be made of the labels - 3 or 4 colors at most. An additional set with more colors / more complex design could also be prepared for home users with inkjet printers. - Milestone 6: Mon 5 October - prepare a 'promo kit' for the release. This would be aimed towards Fedora ambassadors and other folks wanting to promote Fedora 8 at conferences/shows/gatherings during launch time. Include some standard screenshots folks can use, some printer-quality artwork (sources for the theme work would be great), and a link to the logo at fedoraproject.org site, all gathered in one page on the wiki for easy access. I've noticed we've gotten a lot of inquiries about these materials for F8 and were not prepared. Another idea for the kit: PDF informational sheet about the release with preliminary release notes (or information about the most compelling features being introduced in the release) and a couple screenshots. - Milestone 7: Mon 15 October - finalize fedoraproject.org promotional materials. Probably will consist of: (1) F8 tour with screenshots, (2) big promo banner for the front page of the site at launch time. Work with the websites and infrastructure teams to get a staging site set up and ready to go for the final release date. > Maybe we will think again and include at least the graphics for the > previous release by default to leave a bit of choice for the users +1 > How about two version of the artwork, a basic one and a derivative of it > for the final desktop, the derivative being on equal foot with other > derivative distros can do? Well, I think the most visible 'hard to swap out' pieces are grub and rhgb, which we might not even be dealing with. I personally don't think it would be an issue to have more thematic artwork for anaconda and firstboot if there were more basic versions available to respinners to use. But maybe whatever bootup graphics we have should be more basic so that folks wanting to personalize their system don't have something that totally clashes with their personal style. Also to make my meaning clear, by 'basic' I'm thinking just an abstract (likely blue) graphic style with a plain Fedora logo and that's it. No balloons, dna, bubbles, or anything like that. :) So it could have a style, and that style could even complement what the theme is, but it wouldn't have the balloons or whatever the theme element is in it. (Does that make sense?) >> With those things in mind, a good approach I think could be to focus >> on the wallpaper and GDM and tone down the rest. We can still make a >> big impression and 'keep up the tradition' or whatever, and use the >> wallpaper and gdm theme to showcase what FOSS graphics tools can do, >> but still keep happy those folks who like personalizing their desktop >> and don't agree with our style by leaving the rest plainer in comparison. > > I am even stronger: for now we should focus on a metaphor (along the > lines of DNA and FlyingHigh), the rest is implementation detail. +1 > I am for focusing on the concept (metaphor), illustrated with just a > single image (wallpaper), I think we can mentally extrapolate from it > and have a good idea about how it work for the other elements. I think this is a great approach. It's hard to lay down concrete rules for stuff beyond the basic wallpaper artwork without having the wallpaper artwork to look at :) and to come up with ideas to extrapolate from it. So we can start with the idea that the wallpaper and login screen will be the "showcase" and that the rest will be more muted, and as things play out keep working on it and see where it goes with that end goal in mind. > I would wait to see the ideas to come and judge later which style of > work fit it better. And we may expect the unexpected (like how Mola > surprised everybody with his 3D take for DNA). True, it's important to start with the idea first. I'm hoping that looking at some of the best stuff that's out there now will help spark ideas too. :) > Question: F7 changed the icon theme to Myst partly to match the blue of > the rest of the desktop. We will do something similar in F8 or the > opposite (do the desktop artwork to fit the icon theme). The same about > Metacity. +1 They need to match somehow. Problem is we don't know if we can depend on Echo at this point. ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Jun 8 05:48:13 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 08:48:13 +0300 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <466817C1.2000002@redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> <9c3bfa1d0706070625t195d864dg42dae5c16fcd94ef@mail.gmail.com> <46681064.5090504@redhat.com> <9c3bfa1d0706070727k185212cbr8d2006ef50cb0720@mail.gmail.com> <466817C1.2000002@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4668ED9D.6080408@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Well I don't know if we should even have to 'make up our mind.' I think > it's cool to have a different look each time, it keeps people guessing > and like I mentioned earlier, I think it's a good platform for showing > off what FOSS creative software can do. This is something I have on my mind for quite some time, so I may have already talked about it: just imagine back in FC6 we had knew the release will be named "Zod", the possibilities of creating cool artwork tied with that theme... I know such tying is not possible because of the traditional game of setting the release name in the last minute and surprising the world with it. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Jun 8 06:16:05 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 09:16:05 +0300 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <4668C3DF.3020200@redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> <4667BF3D.5060601@nicubunu.ro> <4668C3DF.3020200@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4668F425.5050807@nicubunu.ro> M?ir??n Duffy wrote: > I looked at the F8 release schedule and the calendar and came up with > the following (somewhat aggressive, but if all goes well we'll have > everything for the feature freeze deadline) schedule: > > - Round 1 deadline: Monday July 2nd > - Any ideas that don't have a formal proposal on the mailing list + a > proposal page linked off of the F8Themes wiki page will be out of the > running at this point. Seems fine > - Round 2 deadline: Monday July 20th > - Any ideas that don't have fully fleshed-out and polished artwork, > at least 1 wallpaper and let's say 3 supporting graphics, will be out of > the running at this point. OK > - Round 3 deadline: Monday August 20th (F8 feature freeze) > - Any ideas that don't have fully-polished and implemented versions > of the following will be out of the running: > - wallpaper > - gdm theme > - bootup artwork (whether it's the new system or RHGB graphics and > grub screen) > - installer artwork (splash, banner, and 15-color anaconda graphic) > - firstboot artwork (splash, banner) I feel like this is asking a little too much, an almost complete theme and we may still have a number of competing concepts at that time, but I am not very strong about this. > If we really, really get stuck and end up with more than one really > awesome theme by the round 3 deadline, we can always hold a vote of > Fedora contributors similar to the F7 naming vote process. I'm hoping > that it won't be necessary, though. If we don't have any completely > finished to the specifications above by the deadline, we can dig in and > work on the one that's closest to being complete at that point. And if we have just only one theme at that point? Will we have the authority to endorse it as the way to go? For F7 nobody objected because the decision was made by a supreme, unquestionable authority (RH Desktop Team), maybe we should define clearly the process and our relation with the Desktop Team. > Do these dates make sense? If so, would anybody object to me going ahead > and announcing the F8 theme process? - I'm thinking a Fedora News > announcement, here on this list + marketing + websites list, > fedoraforum.org, and I can make a post on Fedora Planet as well. I think the dates are just fine, go ahead with the announcements. > On a related note, I would also like to add some more > milestones/deadlines to the process even though they aren't part of the > theme selection process. Please tell me if you think I'm completely > insane with these items & deadlines. No you are not insane, these are good to have. We may not consider them blockers or not be very strict about dates and accept a couple of days delay. > - Milestone 4: Mon 10 Sept - concept discussion for F8 marketing > materials on the marketing list. Come up with a standard tagline for the > release the way we did "Reach higher" for the new static FPO website, > and maybe some promo banner ideas as well. This is fine. If I understand you correctly, the tagline is related to the graphic theme (DNA - Evolved, FlyingHigh - Reach higher) > - Milestone 5: Mon 24 Sept - finalize artwork/design for F8 DVD/CD > labels and sleeves. At least a professional-printer (eg screenprinting) > ready version of each needs to be made of the labels - 3 or 4 colors at > most. An additional set with more colors / more complex design could > also be prepared for home users with inkjet printers. Is not this a little earlier? Those last milestones my go in parallel schedule, CD covers are not blockers for screenshots in the press kit and are not blocked by the promo banners, all of them use the release theming as a root. Anyway, we should create a page similar to the ThemingOverview for all those marketing related graphics, as a central point of reference. > - Milestone 6: Mon 5 October - prepare a 'promo kit' for the release. > This would be aimed towards Fedora ambassadors and other folks wanting > to promote Fedora 8 at conferences/shows/gatherings during launch time. > Include some standard screenshots folks can use, some printer-quality > artwork (sources for the theme work would be great), and a link to the > logo at fedoraproject.org site, all gathered in one page on the wiki for > easy access. I've noticed we've gotten a lot of inquiries about these > materials for F8 and were not prepared. Another idea for the kit: PDF > informational sheet about the release with preliminary release notes (or > information about the most compelling features being introduced in the > release) and a couple screenshots. Yes, this is useful, we will have to work closely with the marketing team. > - Milestone 7: Mon 15 October - finalize fedoraproject.org promotional > materials. Probably will consist of: (1) F8 tour with screenshots, (2) > big promo banner for the front page of the site at launch time. Work > with the websites and infrastructure teams to get a staging site set up > and ready to go for the final release date. Another "yes" from me on this. Maybe yet another milestone working with the documentation people on the Firefox start page? > Also to make my meaning clear, by 'basic' I'm thinking just an abstract > (likely blue) graphic style with a plain Fedora logo and that's it. No > balloons, dna, bubbles, or anything like that. :) So it could have a > style, and that style could even complement what the theme is, but it > wouldn't have the balloons or whatever the theme element is in it. (Does > that make sense?) Say instead something like "Tentacles" or "GNOME Curves" (with a Fedora touch) from the default selection of wallpapers and I am sold. >> Question: F7 changed the icon theme to Myst partly to match the blue >> of the rest of the desktop. We will do something similar in F8 or the >> opposite (do the desktop artwork to fit the icon theme). The same >> about Metacity. > > +1 They need to match somehow. Problem is we don't know if we can depend > on Echo at this point. Call me pessimistic, but I have my doubts about Echo. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From markg85 at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 07:12:34 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:12:34 +0200 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <4668F425.5050807@nicubunu.ro> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> <4667BF3D.5060601@nicubunu.ro> <4668C3DF.3020200@redhat.com> <4668F425.5050807@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706080012g398e8b46t30c48fb0d3e6ff5b@mail.gmail.com> !! made for KDE but can probably also work on Gnome !! Hereby i present you with my first Work In Progress image: http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/1039/kdebattlegd6.png some explenation. - Why the orange taskbar? well i like to try something completely different.. it`s just a mockup and comments or critics are more than welcome - Why the blue window bar? well.. fedora`s main color is blue right ^_^ - why the ugly icons in the window bar? well.. i needed to put in something there.. i just didn`t finished it YET - And why is mine completely different than any other theme proposed for F7 (i wasn`t part of it) well.. i would like to see a theme that is completely different and that doesn`t just change the window decorations. A theme isn`t a _theme_ for nothing.. if you start theming you need to do everything and that`s what i had in mind. - Theme name? ehm.. i didn`t made up one yet.. atleast NOT with "orange" or "blue" in the name!! suggestions are welcome. !! REMEMBER THIS IS A W.I.P. !! (even early stage w.i.p.) I also have a idea about the login stuff for both kde and gnome. make them in fullscreen mode and show the desktop when everything is loaded... might be better user experience than the current way. comments? critics? feel free to post it here (don`t pm.. let everyone read it here on this list) @ release scedule that`s tight!! and i have no theming experience in kde nor gnome at this moment.. o well.. i will do my best. 2007/6/8, Nicu Buculei : > > M?ir??n Duffy wrote: > > I looked at the F8 release schedule and the calendar and came up with > > the following (somewhat aggressive, but if all goes well we'll have > > everything for the feature freeze deadline) schedule: > > > > - Round 1 deadline: Monday July 2nd > > - Any ideas that don't have a formal proposal on the mailing list + a > > proposal page linked off of the F8Themes wiki page will be out of the > > running at this point. > > Seems fine > > > - Round 2 deadline: Monday July 20th > > - Any ideas that don't have fully fleshed-out and polished artwork, > > at least 1 wallpaper and let's say 3 supporting graphics, will be out of > > the running at this point. > > OK > > > - Round 3 deadline: Monday August 20th (F8 feature freeze) > > - Any ideas that don't have fully-polished and implemented versions > > of the following will be out of the running: > > - wallpaper > > - gdm theme > > - bootup artwork (whether it's the new system or RHGB graphics and > > grub screen) > > - installer artwork (splash, banner, and 15-color anaconda graphic) > > - firstboot artwork (splash, banner) > > I feel like this is asking a little too much, an almost complete theme > and we may still have a number of competing concepts at that time, but I > am not very strong about this. > > > If we really, really get stuck and end up with more than one really > > awesome theme by the round 3 deadline, we can always hold a vote of > > Fedora contributors similar to the F7 naming vote process. I'm hoping > > that it won't be necessary, though. If we don't have any completely > > finished to the specifications above by the deadline, we can dig in and > > work on the one that's closest to being complete at that point. > > And if we have just only one theme at that point? Will we have the > authority to endorse it as the way to go? > For F7 nobody objected because the decision was made by a supreme, > unquestionable authority (RH Desktop Team), maybe we should define > clearly the process and our relation with the Desktop Team. > > > Do these dates make sense? If so, would anybody object to me going ahead > > and announcing the F8 theme process? - I'm thinking a Fedora News > > announcement, here on this list + marketing + websites list, > > fedoraforum.org, and I can make a post on Fedora Planet as well. > > I think the dates are just fine, go ahead with the announcements. > > > On a related note, I would also like to add some more > > milestones/deadlines to the process even though they aren't part of the > > theme selection process. Please tell me if you think I'm completely > > insane with these items & deadlines. > > No you are not insane, these are good to have. We may not consider them > blockers or not be very strict about dates and accept a couple of days > delay. > > > - Milestone 4: Mon 10 Sept - concept discussion for F8 marketing > > materials on the marketing list. Come up with a standard tagline for the > > release the way we did "Reach higher" for the new static FPO website, > > and maybe some promo banner ideas as well. > > This is fine. > If I understand you correctly, the tagline is related to the graphic > theme (DNA - Evolved, FlyingHigh - Reach higher) > > > - Milestone 5: Mon 24 Sept - finalize artwork/design for F8 DVD/CD > > labels and sleeves. At least a professional-printer (eg screenprinting) > > ready version of each needs to be made of the labels - 3 or 4 colors at > > most. An additional set with more colors / more complex design could > > also be prepared for home users with inkjet printers. > > Is not this a little earlier? Those last milestones my go in parallel > schedule, CD covers are not blockers for screenshots in the press kit > and are not blocked by the promo banners, all of them use the release > theming as a root. > > Anyway, we should create a page similar to the ThemingOverview for all > those marketing related graphics, as a central point of reference. > > > - Milestone 6: Mon 5 October - prepare a 'promo kit' for the release. > > This would be aimed towards Fedora ambassadors and other folks wanting > > to promote Fedora 8 at conferences/shows/gatherings during launch time. > > Include some standard screenshots folks can use, some printer-quality > > artwork (sources for the theme work would be great), and a link to the > > logo at fedoraproject.org site, all gathered in one page on the wiki for > > easy access. I've noticed we've gotten a lot of inquiries about these > > materials for F8 and were not prepared. Another idea for the kit: PDF > > informational sheet about the release with preliminary release notes (or > > information about the most compelling features being introduced in the > > release) and a couple screenshots. > > Yes, this is useful, we will have to work closely with the marketing team. > > > - Milestone 7: Mon 15 October - finalize fedoraproject.org promotional > > materials. Probably will consist of: (1) F8 tour with screenshots, (2) > > big promo banner for the front page of the site at launch time. Work > > with the websites and infrastructure teams to get a staging site set up > > and ready to go for the final release date. > > Another "yes" from me on this. > > Maybe yet another milestone working with the documentation people on the > Firefox start page? > > > Also to make my meaning clear, by 'basic' I'm thinking just an abstract > > (likely blue) graphic style with a plain Fedora logo and that's it. No > > balloons, dna, bubbles, or anything like that. :) So it could have a > > style, and that style could even complement what the theme is, but it > > wouldn't have the balloons or whatever the theme element is in it. (Does > > that make sense?) > > Say instead something like "Tentacles" or "GNOME Curves" (with a Fedora > touch) from the default selection of wallpapers and I am sold. > > >> Question: F7 changed the icon theme to Myst partly to match the blue > >> of the rest of the desktop. We will do something similar in F8 or the > >> opposite (do the desktop artwork to fit the icon theme). The same > >> about Metacity. > > > > +1 They need to match somehow. Problem is we don't know if we can depend > > on Echo at this point. > > Call me pessimistic, but I have my doubts about Echo. > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Jun 8 07:26:31 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:26:31 +0300 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706080012g398e8b46t30c48fb0d3e6ff5b@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> <4667BF3D.5060601@nicubunu.ro> <4668C3DF.3020200@redhat.com> <4668F425.5050807@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80706080012g398e8b46t30c48fb0d3e6ff5b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <466904A7.40400@nicubunu.ro> Mark wrote: > > Hereby i present you with my first Work In Progress image: > http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/1039/kdebattlegd6.png > > some explenation. > > - Why the orange taskbar? > well i like to try something completely different.. it`s just a mockup > and comments or critics are more than welcome My personal preference is to have the panel (taskbar) transparent (partial transparency). > - Why the blue window bar? > well.. fedora`s main color is blue right ^_^ I find it a little too bright. I also noted the color gradient used wor the window border, is techincally possible to have something like this? > @ release scedule > that`s tight!! and i have no theming experience in kde nor gnome at this > moment.. o well.. i will do my best. Keep in mind F8 is aiming for a short 5 months release schedule, so everything is tight. With that in perspective, I thing one month for defining some basic concepts is OK, maybe the second milestone for polishing somehow tight (but not impossible) and the third, another full month, for fully-polishing enough again, at that time we should have a clear idea and the final polishing is to a large degree mechanical. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Fri Jun 8 07:55:46 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:55:46 +0200 (CEST) Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706080012g398e8b46t30c48fb0d3e6ff5b@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> <4667BF3D.5060601@nicubunu.ro> <4668C3DF.3020200@redhat.com> <4668F425.5050807@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80706080012g398e8b46t30c48fb0d3e6ff5b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <31111.192.54.193.51.1181289346.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le Ven 8 juin 2007 09:12, Mark a ?crit : > comments? critics? feel free to post it here (don`t pm.. let everyone > read it here on this list) Be very carreful with gradients. They're pretty but it's difficult to have text with good contrast over them. -- Nicolas Mailhot From markg85 at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 10:06:10 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 12:06:10 +0200 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <31111.192.54.193.51.1181289346.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> <4667BF3D.5060601@nicubunu.ro> <4668C3DF.3020200@redhat.com> <4668F425.5050807@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80706080012g398e8b46t30c48fb0d3e6ff5b@mail.gmail.com> <31111.192.54.193.51.1181289346.squirrel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706080306p6f16bcf3t62cd4759d172e53c@mail.gmail.com> thanx for the suggestion i will keep that in mind 2007/6/8, Nicolas Mailhot : > > Le Ven 8 juin 2007 09:12, Mark a ?crit : > > > comments? critics? feel free to post it here (don`t pm.. let everyone > > read it here on this list) > > Be very carreful with gradients. They're pretty but it's difficult to > have text with good contrast over them. > > -- > Nicolas Mailhot > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 10:12:55 2007 From: ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 11:12:55 +0100 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <4668F425.5050807@nicubunu.ro> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> <4667BF3D.5060601@nicubunu.ro> <4668C3DF.3020200@redhat.com> <4668F425.5050807@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0706080312i59b554e5nf7f45220c881fde1@mail.gmail.com> On 08/06/07, Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?-n Duffy wrote: > > - Milestone 4: Mon 10 Sept - concept discussion for F8 marketing > > materials on the marketing list. Come up with a standard tagline for the > > release the way we did "Reach higher" for the new static FPO website, > > and maybe some promo banner ideas as well. > > This is fine. > If I understand you correctly, the tagline is related to the graphic > theme (DNA - Evolved, FlyingHigh - Reach higher) > I did, to be honest, miss this idea completely! I think it could be fun to have a caption competition open to a wider audience, maybe a FedoraForum thread or something. It may bring in more ideas. > > Also to make my meaning clear, by 'basic' I'm thinking just an abstract > > (likely blue) graphic style with a plain Fedora logo and that's it. No > > balloons, dna, bubbles, or anything like that. :) So it could have a > > style, and that style could even complement what the theme is, but it > > wouldn't have the balloons or whatever the theme element is in it. (Does > > that make sense?) > > Say instead something like "Tentacles" or "GNOME Curves" (with a Fedora > touch) from the default selection of wallpapers and I am sold. So, in a way, a background of a wallpaper without a definate subject? > >> Question: F7 changed the icon theme to Myst partly to match the blue > >> of the rest of the desktop. We will do something similar in F8 or the > >> opposite (do the desktop artwork to fit the icon theme). The same > >> about Metacity. > > > > +1 They need to match somehow. Problem is we don't know if we can depend > > on Echo at this point. > > Call me pessimistic, but I have my doubts about Echo. I think it will take a lot of time and work to say the least. Methinks it will be done when it's done and until then we will have to keep Mist or something a little more fresh than Bluecurve. -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Fri Jun 8 12:02:14 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:02:14 +0200 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706080012g398e8b46t30c48fb0d3e6ff5b@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> <4667BF3D.5060601@nicubunu.ro> <4668C3DF.3020200@redhat.com> <4668F425.5050807@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80706080012g398e8b46t30c48fb0d3e6ff5b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1181304134.4031.7.camel@pc-notebook> Sorry for probable double posting, but my last messages got probably lost, so here is the first of them: Hi folks, I also made a metacity/kwm theme mockup [1]. I also provide svg [2] in case anyone would like to polish/rework it. The main ideas are: 1. usage of echo colours 2. decent gradients, echoey style 3. different coloured buttons, as it could help user faster distinguish the difference 4. only upper corners rounded, bottom ones squared 5. gradient only in title bar, border solid, continuous transition from the title bar 6. echoy style outline Please not that its an very early draft and is meant only to express the ideas. While I am quite content with the title bar and border, the buttons are at the moment not very nice, IMO. Feel free to modify, comment and criticise it :) And, well... this is only for focused window, the other ones might be in grey scale or at least with very small saturation... Also, we would need to explore how it would fit with gtk/qt style... references: [1] http://feannatar.hostuju.cz/fedora/downloads/metacity-draft.png [2] http://feannatar.hostuju.cz/fedora/downloads/metacity-draft.svg -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I think it could be > fun to have a caption competition open to a wider audience, maybe a > FedoraForum thread or something. It may bring in more ideas. I thought it too, so I opened a thread already yesterday: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=157254 Martin From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Fri Jun 8 10:17:10 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 12:17:10 +0200 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <9c3bfa1d0706080312i59b554e5nf7f45220c881fde1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> <4667BF3D.5060601@nicubunu.ro> <4668C3DF.3020200@redhat.com> <4668F425.5050807@nicubunu.ro> <9c3bfa1d0706080312i59b554e5nf7f45220c881fde1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1181297830.29534.12.camel@pc-notebook> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 12:12 +0200, Ben Arnold wrote: > I did, to be honest, miss this idea completely! I think it could be > fun to have a caption competition open to a wider audience, maybe a > FedoraForum thread or something. It may bring in more ideas. I thought it too, so I opened a thread already yesterday: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=157254 Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The main ideas are: 1. usage of echo colours 2. decent gradients, echoey style 3. different coloured buttons, as it could help user faster distinguish the difference 4. only upper corners rounded, bottom ones squared 5. gradient only in title bar, border solid, continuous transition from the title bar 6. echoy style outline Please not that its an very early draft and is meant only to express the ideas. While I am quite content with the title bar and border, the buttons are at the moment not very nice, IMO. Feel free to modify, comment and criticise it :) And, well... this is only for focused window, the other ones might be in grey scale or at least with very small saturation... Also, we would need to explore how it would fit with gtk/qt style... references: [1] http://feannatar.hostuju.cz/fedora/downloads/metacity-draft.png [2] http://feannatar.hostuju.cz/fedora/downloads/metacity-draft.svg -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The main ideas are: 1. usage of echo colours 2. decent gradients, echoey style 3. different coloured buttons, as it could help user faster distinguish the difference 4. only upper corners rounded, bottom ones squared 5. gradient only in title bar, border solid, continuous transition from the title bar 6. echoy style outline Please not that its an very early draft and is meant only to express the ideas. While I am quite content with the title bar and border, the buttons are at the moment not very nice, IMO. Feel free to modify, comment and criticise it :) And, well... this is only for focused window, the other ones might be in grey scale or at least with very small saturation... Also, we would need to explore how it would fit with gtk/qt style... references: [1] http://feannatar.hostuju.cz/fedora/downloads/metacity-draft.png [2] http://feannatar.hostuju.cz/fedora/downloads/metacity-draft.svg -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From duffy at redhat.com Fri Jun 8 21:55:34 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrcKtbiBEdWZmeQ==?=) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:55:34 -0400 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <4668F425.5050807@nicubunu.ro> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> <4667BF3D.5060601@nicubunu.ro> <4668C3DF.3020200@redhat.com> <4668F425.5050807@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <4669D056.20200@redhat.com> Nicu Buculei wrote: >> If we really, really get stuck and end up with more than one really >> awesome theme by the round 3 deadline, we can always hold a vote of >> Fedora contributors similar to the F7 naming vote process. I'm hoping >> that it won't be necessary, though. If we don't have any completely >> finished to the specifications above by the deadline, we can dig in and >> work on the one that's closest to being complete at that point. > > And if we have just only one theme at that point? Will we have the > authority to endorse it as the way to go? > For F7 nobody objected because the decision was made by a supreme, > unquestionable authority (RH Desktop Team), maybe we should define > clearly the process and our relation with the Desktop Team. Well, I think there are two things we can do to help avoid the issues we had last release: - We should be as open and as transparent as possible wrt our progress on the themes. We should post to Planet Fedora for example, at least every two weeks on the situation so there are no surprises for anyone involved by the time the 3rd and final theme deadline is reached. Remember also that the major bits need to be implemented by the final deadline so hopefully we will have folks from Desktop assisting with that process thus they'll be aware of the stuff we're coming up with and be able to give their input. - We could have a representative of Desktop team and a representative of the Fedora board to give a signoff on the final theme design, to make sure they agree its a proper representation of Fedora and the desktop. We should make sure each of these representatives is made aware of how we're doing along with posting our updates. Sound reasonable? Paul is already our representative to the Board I think; would you be willing to be the desktop liaison, Matthias? >> Do these dates make sense? If so, would anybody object to me going ahead >> and announcing the F8 theme process? - I'm thinking a Fedora News >> announcement, here on this list + marketing + websites list, >> fedoraforum.org, and I can make a post on Fedora Planet as well. > > I think the dates are just fine, go ahead with the announcements. Will do :) >> - Milestone 4: Mon 10 Sept - concept discussion for F8 marketing >> materials on the marketing list. Come up with a standard tagline for the >> release the way we did "Reach higher" for the new static FPO website, >> and maybe some promo banner ideas as well. > > This is fine. > If I understand you correctly, the tagline is related to the graphic > theme (DNA - Evolved, FlyingHigh - Reach higher) Yep exactly, so it makes sense to come up with this after the graphic theme is decided. >> - Milestone 5: Mon 24 Sept - finalize artwork/design for F8 DVD/CD >> labels and sleeves. At least a professional-printer (eg screenprinting) >> ready version of each needs to be made of the labels - 3 or 4 colors at >> most. An additional set with more colors / more complex design could >> also be prepared for home users with inkjet printers. > > Is not this a little earlier? Those last milestones my go in parallel > schedule, CD covers are not blockers for screenshots in the press kit > and are not blocked by the promo banners, all of them use the release > theming as a root. Do you think the promo kit should come first? I was thinking that a lot of folks block on the disc designs, folks who are holding launch events and magazines and such. And the disc designs could be included in the promo kit. > Anyway, we should create a page similar to the ThemingOverview for all > those marketing related graphics, as a central point of reference. +1 >> - Milestone 7: Mon 15 October - finalize fedoraproject.org promotional >> materials. Probably will consist of: (1) F8 tour with screenshots, (2) >> big promo banner for the front page of the site at launch time. Work >> with the websites and infrastructure teams to get a staging site set up >> and ready to go for the final release date. > > Another "yes" from me on this. > > Maybe yet another milestone working with the documentation people on the > Firefox start page? This is a great idea, I totally forget this. We could include this task in the milestone with the FPO materials. >> Also to make my meaning clear, by 'basic' I'm thinking just an abstract >> (likely blue) graphic style with a plain Fedora logo and that's it. No >> balloons, dna, bubbles, or anything like that. :) So it could have a >> style, and that style could even complement what the theme is, but it >> wouldn't have the balloons or whatever the theme element is in it. (Does >> that make sense?) > > Say instead something like "Tentacles" or "GNOME Curves" (with a Fedora > touch) from the default selection of wallpapers and I am sold. +1 Something along those lines with a small Fedora logo is what I was thinking "basic" would be. ~m From markg85 at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 21:58:05 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 23:58:05 +0200 Subject: WIP - Fedora 8 theme Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706081458k2f2a1e35mddcd974adc2ff1bb@mail.gmail.com> Hey, today i also posted this wip in the Fedora 8 artwork thread but it`s better to have this in a thread of its own. So hereby i present you with my first fedora window theme mockup ever (i`ve made mockups before but never for a window manager or a operating system) Feel free to post any critics here.. and for the mockup itself.. i have absolutely no idea if some parts are possible or not.. i just make a mockup and deal with the technical issues later on. This theme is intended for the KDE desktop but will probably work just fine on Gnome aswell. Note that i`m not completely happy with the close, minimize and maximize images yet.. the style arround it with the green glow looks good to me but again not sure if that`s even possible. Here is the WIP http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/2840/kdebattlewip2fi9.png commens and critics? ^_^ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Great idea :) >> > Also to make my meaning clear, by 'basic' I'm thinking just an abstract >> > (likely blue) graphic style with a plain Fedora logo and that's it. No >> > balloons, dna, bubbles, or anything like that. :) So it could have a >> > style, and that style could even complement what the theme is, but it >> > wouldn't have the balloons or whatever the theme element is in it. >> (Does >> > that make sense?) >> >> Say instead something like "Tentacles" or "GNOME Curves" (with a Fedora >> touch) from the default selection of wallpapers and I am sold. > > So, in a way, a background of a wallpaper without a definate subject? Yep, exactly. Just something plain and abstract with a Fedora logo. >> >> Question: F7 changed the icon theme to Myst partly to match the blue >> >> of the rest of the desktop. We will do something similar in F8 or the >> >> opposite (do the desktop artwork to fit the icon theme). The same >> >> about Metacity. >> > >> > +1 They need to match somehow. Problem is we don't know if we can >> depend >> > on Echo at this point. >> >> Call me pessimistic, but I have my doubts about Echo. > > I think it will take a lot of time and work to say the least. Methinks > it will be done when it's done and until then we will have to keep > Mist or something a little more fresh than Bluecurve. It's better to take the time and get it right than rush it. F8's schedule is abnormally tight. ~m From markg85 at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 22:08:12 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 00:08:12 +0200 Subject: Where is the Fedora "3d" logo? Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706081508yb672dd6o1f76df7d5e605692@mail.gmail.com> Hey, a while ago someone posted some really nice Fedora logo`s here. with some nice 3d like things in it. i probably have it in my historie somewhere but with a few 1000 threads it`s extremely hard to find. anyone knows where i can find it? Thanx, Mark. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From duffy at redhat.com Fri Jun 8 22:13:54 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=ED=ADn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:13:54 -0400 Subject: Where is the Fedora "3d" logo? In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706081508yb672dd6o1f76df7d5e605692@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80706081508yb672dd6o1f76df7d5e605692@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4669D4A2.3040509@redhat.com> Mark wrote: > Hey, > > a while ago someone posted some really nice Fedora logo`s here. with > some nice 3d like things in it. > i probably have it in my historie somewhere but with a few 1000 threads > it`s extremely hard to find. > anyone knows where i can find it? I bet you're thinking of Mola's artwork: http://mola-mp.deviantart.com/gallery/ ~m From markg85 at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 22:20:41 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 00:20:41 +0200 Subject: FlyingHigh for ksplash-engine-moodin In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80703251715x521e34bevf822009153134529@mail.gmail.com> References: <200703260053.04465.ml@deadbabylon.de> <200703260056.54745.ml@deadbabylon.de> <6e24a8e80703251635t1dc38b76w7e2bad6740854f43@mail.gmail.com> <20070326015510.30d89846@localhost.localdomain> <6e24a8e80703251715x521e34bevf822009153134529@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706081520r5f85de8docd1702da402c7437@mail.gmail.com> sorry to "revive" this thread but i think something like this should get in Fedora 8. and yea this is the complete opposite of what i thought when Sebastian posted this here.. The reason i think this needs to get in Fedora 8 is because you now see the desktop loading. that`s good for the more advanced linux users or the people who ust want to see everything building up.. for the beginner user en to be as user friendly as possible (what fedora wants) it`s better to have a fullscreen loadig and present the user with the desktop when it`s fully loaded. 2007/3/26, Mark : > > if you like a full screen splash ;) > it`s nice, but not my style. > > 2007/3/26, Sebastian Vahl : > > > > Am Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:35:11 +0200 > > schrieb Mark : > > > > > you could just use the gnome splash in moodin ;) > > > might need a little tweaking/adjusting but it`s possible that way the > > > splashes for KDE and GNOME are the same which would be best i think. > > > > But that is not a fullscreen splash. ;) > > > > Sebastian > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markg85 at gmail.com Fri Jun 8 22:22:04 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 00:22:04 +0200 Subject: Where is the Fedora "3d" logo? In-Reply-To: <4669D4A2.3040509@redhat.com> References: <6e24a8e80706081508yb672dd6o1f76df7d5e605692@mail.gmail.com> <4669D4A2.3040509@redhat.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706081522i5e46113cw1a6e2763ad27d62f@mail.gmail.com> yea that`s the stuff i meant thanx M?ir??n 2007/6/9, M?ir??n Duffy : > > Mark wrote: > > Hey, > > > > a while ago someone posted some really nice Fedora logo`s here. with > > some nice 3d like things in it. > > i probably have it in my historie somewhere but with a few 1000 threads > > it`s extremely hard to find. > > anyone knows where i can find it? > > I bet you're thinking of Mola's artwork: > > http://mola-mp.deviantart.com/gallery/ > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <4669D4A2.3040509@redhat.com> References: <6e24a8e80706081508yb672dd6o1f76df7d5e605692@mail.gmail.com> <4669D4A2.3040509@redhat.com> Message-ID: <6600c1b10706081522h1dd37af5yc01980b8ab7bc4bb@mail.gmail.com> or maybe Nicu's artwork: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/ Regards 2007/6/8, M?ir??n Duffy : > > Mark wrote: > > Hey, > > > > a while ago someone posted some really nice Fedora logo`s here. with > > some nice 3d like things in it. > > i probably have it in my historie somewhere but with a few 1000 threads > > it`s extremely hard to find. > > anyone knows where i can find it? > > I bet you're thinking of Mola's artwork: > > http://mola-mp.deviantart.com/gallery/ > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Diego B?rigo Zacar?o Linux User #402589 USE SOFTWARE LIVRE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <6600c1b10706081522h1dd37af5yc01980b8ab7bc4bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80706081508yb672dd6o1f76df7d5e605692@mail.gmail.com> <4669D4A2.3040509@redhat.com> <6600c1b10706081522h1dd37af5yc01980b8ab7bc4bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706081528n53f0850fo4ae662798b95dcba@mail.gmail.com> yea that`s good stuff aswell :) thanx for that one. 2007/6/9, Diego B?rigo Zacar?o : > > or maybe Nicu's artwork: > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/ > > Regards > > 2007/6/8, M?ir??n Duffy < duffy at redhat.com>: > > > > Mark wrote: > > > Hey, > > > > > > a while ago someone posted some really nice Fedora logo`s here. with > > > some nice 3d like things in it. > > > i probably have it in my historie somewhere but with a few 1000 > > threads > > > it`s extremely hard to find. > > > anyone knows where i can find it? > > > > I bet you're thinking of Mola's artwork: > > > > http://mola-mp.deviantart.com/gallery/ > > > > ~m > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > -- > Diego B?rigo Zacar?o > Linux User #402589 > USE SOFTWARE LIVRE > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmahut at fedoraproject.org Sat Jun 9 09:56:23 2007 From: mmahut at fedoraproject.org (Marek Mahut) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 11:56:23 +0200 Subject: WIP - Fedora 8 theme In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706081458k2f2a1e35mddcd974adc2ff1bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80706081458k2f2a1e35mddcd974adc2ff1bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <466A7947.9040500@fedoraproject.org> Mark wrote: > Hey, Hey Mark, > today i also posted this wip in the Fedora 8 artwork thread but it`s > better to have this in a thread of its own. > > So hereby i present you with my first fedora window theme mockup ever > (i`ve made mockups before but never for a window manager or a operating > system) > Feel free to post any critics here.. and for the mockup itself.. i have > absolutely no idea if some parts are possible or not.. i just make a > mockup and deal with the technical issues later on. This theme is > intended for the KDE desktop but will probably work just fine on Gnome > aswell. > > Note that i`m not completely happy with the close, minimize and maximize > images yet.. the style arround it with the green glow looks good to me > but again not sure if that`s even possible. > > Here is the WIP > http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/2840/kdebattlewip2fi9.png > > commens and critics? ^_^ Good work, the window is very nice, as you said buttons needs to be worked. But I don't like the color of the taskbar, I mean this color will break my eyes after 14 hours of work 8) Maybe you can cooperate with authors of other themes, few I like: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Unity?content=59694 http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Splint?content=58917 http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Blended?content=26050 ... -- Marek Mahut Tel.: +420-532-294-111 (ex. 826-2046) Fedora Ambassador GSM: +420-731-076-674 http://www.fedoraproject.org http://www.jamendo.com ____________________________________________________________________ From markg85 at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 11:06:05 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 13:06:05 +0200 Subject: WIP - Fedora 8 theme In-Reply-To: <466A7947.9040500@fedoraproject.org> References: <6e24a8e80706081458k2f2a1e35mddcd974adc2ff1bb@mail.gmail.com> <466A7947.9040500@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706090406l574228bfj4c2bf00951c3edf2@mail.gmail.com> That "Blended" theme is about the direction i want to go. but i`ve made a new mockup with a different color theme. it should be alot better for the eyes and the long term usage. however i do now get the feeling that i`m making what i was trying to avoid.. making everything in blue (or blue like) and therefore use to much blue in the theme.. and with this mockup i`m not completely happy with the window decoration (the top part only).. i`m happy with the taskbar :) it looks really well this way. what do you think of it? and some more responses would be welcome. here it is: http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/6808/kdebattlewip3vz7.png 2007/6/9, Marek Mahut : > > Mark wrote: > > Hey, > > Hey Mark, > > > today i also posted this wip in the Fedora 8 artwork thread but it`s > > better to have this in a thread of its own. > > > > So hereby i present you with my first fedora window theme mockup ever > > (i`ve made mockups before but never for a window manager or a operating > > system) > > Feel free to post any critics here.. and for the mockup itself.. i have > > absolutely no idea if some parts are possible or not.. i just make a > > mockup and deal with the technical issues later on. This theme is > > intended for the KDE desktop but will probably work just fine on Gnome > > aswell. > > > > Note that i`m not completely happy with the close, minimize and maximize > > images yet.. the style arround it with the green glow looks good to me > > but again not sure if that`s even possible. > > > > Here is the WIP > > http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/2840/kdebattlewip2fi9.png > > > > commens and critics? ^_^ > > Good work, the window is very nice, as you said buttons needs to be > worked. But I don't like the color of the taskbar, I mean this color > will break my eyes after 14 hours of work 8) > > Maybe you can cooperate with authors of other themes, few I like: > > http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Unity?content=59694 > http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Splint?content=58917 > http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Blended?content=26050 > ... > > -- > Marek Mahut Tel.: +420-532-294-111 (ex. 826-2046) > Fedora Ambassador GSM: +420-731-076-674 > http://www.fedoraproject.org http://www.jamendo.com > ____________________________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmahut at fedoraproject.org Sat Jun 9 11:12:45 2007 From: mmahut at fedoraproject.org (Marek Mahut) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 13:12:45 +0200 Subject: WIP - Fedora 8 theme In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706090406l574228bfj4c2bf00951c3edf2@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80706081458k2f2a1e35mddcd974adc2ff1bb@mail.gmail.com> <466A7947.9040500@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80706090406l574228bfj4c2bf00951c3edf2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <466A8B2D.3060905@fedoraproject.org> Mark wrote: > That "Blended" theme is about the direction i want to go. > > but i`ve made a new mockup with a different color theme. it should be > alot better for the eyes and the long term usage. > however i do now get the feeling that i`m making what i was trying to > avoid.. making everything in blue (or blue like) and therefore use to > much blue in the theme.. > > and with this mockup i`m not completely happy with the window decoration > (the top part only).. i`m happy with the taskbar :) it looks really well > this way. > > what do you think of it? Ah! That's better. IMO we should keep the blue color everywhere (it's so nice). I don't know why but your mockups looks for me like Wista ;) And others, what do you think? Is it ok? Do we need a new theme for F8? Why keep the old classic gnome theme? Why not? > and some more responses would be welcome. > > here it is: > http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/6808/kdebattlewip3vz7.png > > 2007/6/9, Marek Mahut < mmahut at fedoraproject.org > >: > > Mark wrote: > > Hey, > > Hey Mark, > > > today i also posted this wip in the Fedora 8 artwork thread but it`s > > better to have this in a thread of its own. > > > > So hereby i present you with my first fedora window theme mockup > ever > > (i`ve made mockups before but never for a window manager or a > operating > > system) > > Feel free to post any critics here.. and for the mockup itself.. > i have > > absolutely no idea if some parts are possible or not.. i just make a > > mockup and deal with the technical issues later on. This theme is > > intended for the KDE desktop but will probably work just fine on > Gnome > > aswell. > > > > Note that i`m not completely happy with the close, minimize and > maximize > > images yet.. the style arround it with the green glow looks good > to me > > but again not sure if that`s even possible. > > > > Here is the WIP > > http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/2840/kdebattlewip2fi9.png > > > > commens and critics? ^_^ > > Good work, the window is very nice, as you said buttons needs to be > worked. But I don't like the color of the taskbar, I mean this color > will break my eyes after 14 hours of work 8) > > Maybe you can cooperate with authors of other themes, few I like: > > http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Unity?content=59694 > > http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Splint?content=58917 > http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Blended?content=26050 > > ... > > -- > Marek Mahut Tel.: +420-532-294-111 (ex. 826-2046) > Fedora Ambassador GSM: +420-731-076-674 > http://www.fedoraproject.org > http://www.jamendo.com > ____________________________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Marek Mahut Tel.: +420-532-294-111 (ex. 826-2046) Fedora Ambassador GSM: +420-731-076-674 http://www.fedoraproject.org http://www.jamendo.com ____________________________________________________________________ From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Sat Jun 9 11:29:08 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 13:29:08 +0200 Subject: WIP - Fedora 8 theme In-Reply-To: <466A8B2D.3060905@fedoraproject.org> References: <6e24a8e80706081458k2f2a1e35mddcd974adc2ff1bb@mail.gmail.com> <466A7947.9040500@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80706090406l574228bfj4c2bf00951c3edf2@mail.gmail.com> <466A8B2D.3060905@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1181388548.4031.16.camel@pc-notebook> On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 13:12 +0200, Marek Mahut wrote: > Ah! That's better. IMO we should keep the blue color everywhere (it's so > nice). I don't know why but your mockups looks for me like Wista ;) > +1 It really is better and to me it resembles Vista too. Maybe if it would be less "shiny" so that it would better fit echo than crystal icons, it would help to avoid the Vista look? Also, I would use a little bit different hue of blue, but the panel is currently very nice :) > And others, what do you think? Is it ok? Do we need a new theme for F8? > Why keep the old classic gnome theme? Why not? > Yes, we need new theme, but it's questionable whether we need it for F8 or for some later release. The old classic gnome theme is nice, but it's not ours and does not fit very well to echo icons. Perhaps we should create a wiki page for the theme mockups (as I have also sketched one for metacity and others might be interested as well)? Martin From markg85 at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 11:46:40 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 13:46:40 +0200 Subject: WIP - Fedora 8 theme In-Reply-To: <466A8B2D.3060905@fedoraproject.org> References: <6e24a8e80706081458k2f2a1e35mddcd974adc2ff1bb@mail.gmail.com> <466A7947.9040500@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80706090406l574228bfj4c2bf00951c3edf2@mail.gmail.com> <466A8B2D.3060905@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706090446u9dbda93y695b68a2caf87b7e@mail.gmail.com> > > I don't know why but your mockups looks for me like Wista ;) +1 It really is better and to me it resembles Vista too. > i did wanted to add this in my previous message: "i`m not trying to mimic vista" i thought it wasn`t needed.. but the taskbar is indeed inspired by XP and Vista but not a copy of xp or vista!! and i didn`t even add in the glow stuff in the tasks.. if that was in it would have reminded you about vista alot more ;) and here is a updated view.. changed: - slightly different taskbar - other blue colors in the panel - border arround the window is decreased by 50% (that thick border how it was would probably also remind you of vista) and here it is again: http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/8580/kdebattlewip4gt4.png 2007/6/9, Marek Mahut : > > Mark wrote: > > That "Blended" theme is about the direction i want to go. > > > > but i`ve made a new mockup with a different color theme. it should be > > alot better for the eyes and the long term usage. > > however i do now get the feeling that i`m making what i was trying to > > avoid.. making everything in blue (or blue like) and therefore use to > > much blue in the theme.. > > > > and with this mockup i`m not completely happy with the window decoration > > (the top part only).. i`m happy with the taskbar :) it looks really well > > this way. > > > > what do you think of it? > > Ah! That's better. IMO we should keep the blue color everywhere (it's so > nice). I don't know why but your mockups looks for me like Wista ;) > > And others, what do you think? Is it ok? Do we need a new theme for F8? > Why keep the old classic gnome theme? Why not? > > > and some more responses would be welcome. > > > > here it is: > > http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/6808/kdebattlewip3vz7.png > > > > 2007/6/9, Marek Mahut < mmahut at fedoraproject.org > > >: > > > > Mark wrote: > > > Hey, > > > > Hey Mark, > > > > > today i also posted this wip in the Fedora 8 artwork thread but > it`s > > > better to have this in a thread of its own. > > > > > > So hereby i present you with my first fedora window theme mockup > > ever > > > (i`ve made mockups before but never for a window manager or a > > operating > > > system) > > > Feel free to post any critics here.. and for the mockup itself.. > > i have > > > absolutely no idea if some parts are possible or not.. i just > make a > > > mockup and deal with the technical issues later on. This theme is > > > intended for the KDE desktop but will probably work just fine on > > Gnome > > > aswell. > > > > > > Note that i`m not completely happy with the close, minimize and > > maximize > > > images yet.. the style arround it with the green glow looks good > > to me > > > but again not sure if that`s even possible. > > > > > > Here is the WIP > > > http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/2840/kdebattlewip2fi9.png > > > > > > commens and critics? ^_^ > > > > Good work, the window is very nice, as you said buttons needs to be > > worked. But I don't like the color of the taskbar, I mean this color > > will break my eyes after 14 hours of work 8) > > > > Maybe you can cooperate with authors of other themes, few I like: > > > > http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Unity?content=59694 > > > > http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Splint?content=58917 > > http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Blended?content=26050 > > > > ... > > > > -- > > Marek Mahut Tel.: +420-532-294-111 (ex. 826-2046) > > Fedora Ambassador GSM: +420-731-076-674 > > http://www.fedoraproject.org > > > http://www.jamendo.com > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -- > Marek Mahut Tel.: +420-532-294-111 (ex. 826-2046) > Fedora Ambassador GSM: +420-731-076-674 > http://www.fedoraproject.org http://www.jamendo.com > ____________________________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Sat Jun 9 15:49:15 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 17:49:15 +0200 Subject: WIP - Fedora 8 theme In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706090446u9dbda93y695b68a2caf87b7e@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80706081458k2f2a1e35mddcd974adc2ff1bb@mail.gmail.com> <466A7947.9040500@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80706090406l574228bfj4c2bf00951c3edf2@mail.gmail.com> <466A8B2D.3060905@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80706090446u9dbda93y695b68a2caf87b7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1181404155.4031.25.camel@pc-notebook> On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 13:46 +0200, Mark wrote: > I don't know why but your mockups looks for me like Wista ;) > > +1 It really is better and to me it resembles Vista too. > > i did wanted to add this in my previous message: "i`m not trying to > mimic vista" > I know, it's just a resemblance, nothing more :) Maybe it's because the glassy kind of shine? You could maybe try gradient instead of the "colour jump" in the middle (that's maybe what resembles Vista most). > i thought it wasn`t needed.. but the taskbar is indeed inspired by XP > and Vista but not a copy of xp or vista!! > and i didn`t even add in the glow stuff in the tasks.. if that was in > it would have reminded you about vista alot more ;) > > and here is a updated view.. > changed: > - slightly different taskbar > - other blue colors in the panel > - border arround the window is decreased by 50% (that thick border how > it was would probably also remind you of vista) > > and here it is again: > http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/8580/kdebattlewip4gt4.png > Hm... nice, to me only the panel now slightly resembles Vista, but let's not talk about Vista... you are making Fedora theme... so... Could you consider using as the basis the colour palette used by Echo icons[1]? Martin References: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoIconGuidelines#head-92bac070218d68b55549cfdb50eede11583b8021 From stickster at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 16:24:53 2007 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 12:24:53 -0400 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <4669D056.20200@redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> <4667BF3D.5060601@nicubunu.ro> <4668C3DF.3020200@redhat.com> <4668F425.5050807@nicubunu.ro> <4669D056.20200@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1181406293.3880.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 17:55 -0400, M?ir??n Duffy wrote: > Well, I think there are two things we can do to help avoid the issues > we had last release: > > - We should be as open and as transparent as possible wrt our progress > on the themes. We should post to Planet Fedora for example, at least > every two weeks on the situation so there are no surprises for anyone > involved by the time the 3rd and final theme deadline is reached. > Remember also that the major bits need to be implemented by the final > deadline so hopefully we will have folks from Desktop assisting with > that process thus they'll be aware of the stuff we're coming up with and > be able to give their input. Hitting the nail on the head, excellent. > - We could have a representative of Desktop team and a representative of > the Fedora board to give a signoff on the final theme design, to make > sure they agree its a proper representation of Fedora and the desktop. > We should make sure each of these representatives is made aware of how > we're doing along with posting our updates. > > Sound reasonable? Paul is already our representative to the Board I > think; would you be willing to be the desktop liaison, Matthias? I'll no longer be with the Board shortly, since my seat is up for elections Real Soon Now, but it's not like they're going to sever lines of communication with me or anything. If they think they still need this liaison position to be a Board member, that's fine; otherwise I'm happy to help out in whatever capacity they'd like. > >> Do these dates make sense? If so, would anybody object to me going ahead > >> and announcing the F8 theme process? - I'm thinking a Fedora News > >> announcement, here on this list + marketing + websites list, > >> fedoraforum.org, and I can make a post on Fedora Planet as well. > > > > I think the dates are just fine, go ahead with the announcements. > > Will do :) +1 > >> - Milestone 4: Mon 10 Sept - concept discussion for F8 marketing > >> materials on the marketing list. Come up with a standard tagline for the > >> release the way we did "Reach higher" for the new static FPO website, > >> and maybe some promo banner ideas as well. > > > > This is fine. > > If I understand you correctly, the tagline is related to the graphic > > theme (DNA - Evolved, FlyingHigh - Reach higher) > > Yep exactly, so it makes sense to come up with this after the graphic > theme is decided. This is a really well-coordinated plan of attack; I like it! > >> - Milestone 5: Mon 24 Sept - finalize artwork/design for F8 DVD/CD > >> labels and sleeves. At least a professional-printer (eg screenprinting) > >> ready version of each needs to be made of the labels - 3 or 4 colors at > >> most. An additional set with more colors / more complex design could > >> also be prepared for home users with inkjet printers. > > > > Is not this a little earlier? Those last milestones my go in parallel > > schedule, CD covers are not blockers for screenshots in the press kit > > and are not blocked by the promo banners, all of them use the release > > theming as a root. > > Do you think the promo kit should come first? I was thinking that a lot > of folks block on the disc designs, folks who are holding launch events > and magazines and such. And the disc designs could be included in the > promo kit. > > > Anyway, we should create a page similar to the ThemingOverview for all > > those marketing related graphics, as a central point of reference. > +1 > > >> - Milestone 7: Mon 15 October - finalize fedoraproject.org promotional > >> materials. Probably will consist of: (1) F8 tour with screenshots, (2) > >> big promo banner for the front page of the site at launch time. Work > >> with the websites and infrastructure teams to get a staging site set up > >> and ready to go for the final release date. > > > > Another "yes" from me on this. > > > > Maybe yet another milestone working with the documentation people on the > > Firefox start page? > > This is a great idea, I totally forget this. We could include this task > in the milestone with the FPO materials. In your defense, this was a very late-start issue we tried to handle for F7 and just couldn't get it off the ground with everything else going on. I'll be happy to help get any design stuff into our CVS, etc., of course. > >> Also to make my meaning clear, by 'basic' I'm thinking just an abstract > >> (likely blue) graphic style with a plain Fedora logo and that's it. No > >> balloons, dna, bubbles, or anything like that. :) So it could have a > >> style, and that style could even complement what the theme is, but it > >> wouldn't have the balloons or whatever the theme element is in it. (Does > >> that make sense?) > > > > Say instead something like "Tentacles" or "GNOME Curves" (with a Fedora > > touch) from the default selection of wallpapers and I am sold. > > +1 Something along those lines with a small Fedora logo is what I was > thinking "basic" would be. Great! It is really good to see the open discussions spinning up around a well thought out strategy and timeline. I think folks who are under the impression "How can it get any better?" are in for a *big* surprise. -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Sat Jun 9 17:21:46 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 19:21:46 +0200 Subject: WIP - Fedora 8 theme In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706081458k2f2a1e35mddcd974adc2ff1bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80706081458k2f2a1e35mddcd974adc2ff1bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0706091021r6ccb066co81c2f94e7e789ccf@mail.gmail.com> On 6/8/07, Mark wrote: > commens and critics? ^_^ Hello, reading the comments reminded me of the "crystal" kde window decorator configured with vista theme. An old screenshot: http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=386692418&size=o And yes, when the mouse is on the close button, the latter hovers to red and on the other buttons, it hovers to blue. check it out: yum install crystal and make sure you choose "vista theme". A new version of crystal is released recently, I'll be updating the FC-6, F-7 f8-devel in the upcoming days. PS:Actually this is my favourite theme for quite some time. regards, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From markg85 at gmail.com Sat Jun 9 17:55:41 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 19:55:41 +0200 Subject: WIP - Fedora 8 theme In-Reply-To: <1181404155.4031.25.camel@pc-notebook> References: <6e24a8e80706081458k2f2a1e35mddcd974adc2ff1bb@mail.gmail.com> <466A7947.9040500@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80706090406l574228bfj4c2bf00951c3edf2@mail.gmail.com> <466A8B2D.3060905@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80706090446u9dbda93y695b68a2caf87b7e@mail.gmail.com> <1181404155.4031.25.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706091055v53b946c5k5f4ce5e091e2b63b@mail.gmail.com> > > Hm... nice, to me only the panel now slightly resembles Vista, but let's > not talk about Vista... you are making Fedora theme... so... Could you > consider using as the basis the colour palette used by Echo icons[1]? it`s probably best if i did used that palette but i just want to design freely without any limitations. so for now i don`t use the palette. it`s fine if it just fits the palette theme but other than that i will just make it how i like it. For the color jump and the normal gradient.. i`ve tried a normal gradient but that somehow doesn`t look so good.. the taskbar you see in previous mockup is likely to be the final one. i might change the tasks itself a bit but not much. The window itself is still troubling me but looking better with every mockup. > An old screenshot: > http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=386692418&size=o looking good but not wise for fedora to use as a default theme.. that will most likely result in a few lawsuits from well know company (starting with a M ending with a t) ;) 2007/6/9, Martin Sourada : > > On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 13:46 +0200, Mark wrote: > > I don't know why but your mockups looks for me like Wista ;) > > > > +1 It really is better and to me it resembles Vista too. > > > > i did wanted to add this in my previous message: "i`m not trying to > > mimic vista" > > > I know, it's just a resemblance, nothing more :) Maybe it's because the > glassy kind of shine? You could maybe try gradient instead of the > "colour jump" in the middle (that's maybe what resembles Vista most). > > > i thought it wasn`t needed.. but the taskbar is indeed inspired by XP > > and Vista but not a copy of xp or vista!! > > and i didn`t even add in the glow stuff in the tasks.. if that was in > > it would have reminded you about vista alot more ;) > > > > and here is a updated view.. > > changed: > > - slightly different taskbar > > - other blue colors in the panel > > - border arround the window is decreased by 50% (that thick border how > > it was would probably also remind you of vista) > > > > and here it is again: > > http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/8580/kdebattlewip4gt4.png > > > > Hm... nice, to me only the panel now slightly resembles Vista, but let's > not talk about Vista... you are making Fedora theme... so... Could you > consider using as the basis the colour palette used by Echo icons[1]? > > Martin > > References: > [1] > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoIconGuidelines#head-92bac070218d68b55549cfdb50eede11583b8021 > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Sat Jun 9 18:17:40 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:17:40 +0200 Subject: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft Message-ID: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> Hi, as Mark did I also start a new thread concerning a theme I started to make. I think the theme should be composed of window manager theme, gtk/qt/qt4 widgets theme and notification theme (I hope I didn't missed anything). It is aimed to match echo icon theme, to be easy for eyes, and to be easy to use. I created a draft wiki page under my personal page [1]. Every comments, suggestions etc. are more then welcome. Also, as I included the svg sources I encourage everybody to improve it or make something for it, that isn't made yet. Currently I made only window manager theme mockup. And of course, more info is one the wiki page [1] as well. Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It is aimed to match echo icon theme, to be easy for eyes, > and to be easy to use. I created a draft wiki page under my personal > page [1]. > > Every comments, suggestions etc. are more then welcome. Also, as I > included the svg sources I encourage everybody to improve it or make > something for it, that isn't made yet. Currently I made only window > manager theme mockup. > > And of course, more info is one the wiki page [1] as well. > > Thanks, > Martin > > References: > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Sat Jun 9 18:59:01 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:59:01 +0200 Subject: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706091145t7379abc4x259c21581e20810d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091145t7379abc4x259c21581e20810d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1181415541.4031.39.camel@pc-notebook> On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 20:45 +0200, Mark wrote: > looking good!! keep up the good job > may the best one win ^_^ > > for the suggestions.. the only think i can think of right now is to > make the minimize, maximize and close buttons loss candy/toy like.. > Yep, I too don't feel quite satisfied with them, but currently I have no idea how to improve it other than abandon the idea of different colouring... but I will see... > btw no taskbar? > Not yet, I am starting with window manager theme, then I'd like to make gtk/qt theme and then the rest... 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(it`s in my thread) 2007/6/9, Martin Sourada : > > On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 20:45 +0200, Mark wrote: > > looking good!! keep up the good job > > may the best one win ^_^ > > > > for the suggestions.. the only think i can think of right now is to > > make the minimize, maximize and close buttons loss candy/toy like.. > > > Yep, I too don't feel quite satisfied with them, but currently I have no > idea how to improve it other than abandon the idea of different > colouring... but I will see... > > > btw no taskbar? > > > Not yet, I am starting with window manager theme, then I'd like to make > gtk/qt theme and then the rest... And I am still not determined whether > I will make two or only one panel (I myself prefer two-pane layout, but > I see KDE folks usually does not)... > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Could you > > consider using as the basis the colour palette used by Echo icons[1]? > > > it`s probably best if i did used that palette but i just want to design > freely without any limitations. so for now i don`t use the palette. it`s > fine if it just fits the palette theme but other than that i will just make > it how i like it. > > For the color jump and the normal gradient.. i`ve tried a normal gradient > but that somehow doesn`t look so good.. the taskbar you see in previous > mockup is likely to be the final one. i might change the tasks itself a bit > but not much. > > The window itself is still troubling me but looking better with every > mockup. > > > > An old screenshot: > > http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=386692418&size=o > > > looking good but not wise for fedora to use as a default theme.. that will > most likely result in a few lawsuits from well know company (starting with a > M ending with a t) ;) > > > > 2007/6/9, Martin Sourada : > > > > On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 13:46 +0200, Mark wrote: > > > I don't know why but your mockups looks for me like Wista ;) > > > > > > +1 It really is better and to me it resembles Vista too. > > > > > > i did wanted to add this in my previous message: "i`m not trying to > > > mimic vista" > > > > > I know, it's just a resemblance, nothing more :) Maybe it's because the > > glassy kind of shine? You could maybe try gradient instead of the > > "colour jump" in the middle (that's maybe what resembles Vista most). > > > > > i thought it wasn`t needed.. but the taskbar is indeed inspired by XP > > > and Vista but not a copy of xp or vista!! > > > and i didn`t even add in the glow stuff in the tasks.. if that was in > > > it would have reminded you about vista alot more ;) > > > > > > and here is a updated view.. > > > changed: > > > - slightly different taskbar > > > - other blue colors in the panel > > > - border arround the window is decreased by 50% (that thick border how > > > it was would probably also remind you of vista) > > > > > > and here it is again: > > > http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/8580/kdebattlewip4gt4.png > > > > > > > Hm... nice, to me only the panel now slightly resembles Vista, but let's > > not talk about Vista... you are making Fedora theme... so... Could you > > consider using as the basis the colour palette used by Echo icons[1]? > > > > Martin > > > > References: > > [1] > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoIconGuidelines#head-92bac070218d68b55549cfdb50eede11583b8021 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And I am still not determined whether > I will make two or only one panel (I myself prefer two-pane layout, but > I see KDE folks usually does not)... > Don't get carried away... panel layout is not part of a theme. From caleb at ninjatails.com Sat Jun 9 21:09:18 2007 From: caleb at ninjatails.com (Caleb Wellauer) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:09:18 -0500 Subject: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 15, Issue 15 In-Reply-To: <20070609184558.4659573018@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20070609184558.4659573018@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1181423358.26083.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Okay, I've completely forgotten how to upload an icon to the wiki, but last time I made one I attached it here and it was put there, so I'll do that again. :P Caleb Wellauer -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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And I am still not determined whether > > I will make two or only one panel (I myself prefer two-pane layout, but > > I see KDE folks usually does not)... > > > > Don't get carried away... panel layout is not part of a theme. > No, it isn't, yet it could be part of default fedora look, IMO, but that's rather question for desktop list, I think. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Actually this is the official window decorator of the kubuntu distribution. If you have installed crystal, you will see the themes of kubuntu (edgy,fiesty),vista,aqua,svg.. are included. The crystal development team work closely with kubuntu. I don't think they will object fedora choosing it as default as well, (if it would be) To me, your idea will be easy to implement. And considering the fact, that F8 development cycle is about 5 months. Hence it will be quick to create such theme for F8. Crystal provides many themes, some screenshots on fedora: - kubuntu-dapper: http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=537757887&size=o see how the close button hovers to red - kubuntu-feisty: http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=537757889&size=o see how the minimize button hovers to blue - vista: http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=537757891&size=o Take a look at http://tux.u-strasbg.fr/~chit/crystal-1.0.4/pics/ These themes shipped by the crystal source code. You can design a new fedora theme of crystal. All you have to work on is the artwork, which is actually the goal of this mailing list :) Thus how the icons will hover will not be your problem. If you are planning to work on it, I'll be glad to give a hand for testing and integrating it for f8. Surely, your (would-be) work can be pushed to the official crystal source code(upstream). Here is the 1.0.4 rpm, I'll be pushing soon: RPM : http://tux.u-strasbg.fr/~chit/RPMS/crystal-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm SRPM: http://tux.u-strasbg.fr/~chit/RPMS/crystal-1.0.4-1.src.rpm meanwhile you can do some testing and report any weird issues if any. I don't know yet, if KDE4 will make it before F8. But if it does, you might consider the time and effort you are putting for 3.5.x. The "oxygen" icon set of KDE4 is simply great. regards, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Sat Jun 9 21:51:14 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 23:51:14 +0200 Subject: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft In-Reply-To: <1181421252.4031.45.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091145t7379abc4x259c21581e20810d@mail.gmail.com> <1181415541.4031.39.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091309x7abddbd3o2768bcd589934ed0@mail.gmail.com> <1181421252.4031.45.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1181425874.4031.56.camel@pc-notebook> Ok, so I reworked a little the buttons and added (nearly) borderless variant - it could save a lot of space for people with 800x600 resolution. I am still not satisfied with the buttons, yet it seems they does look better and less candy/cartoonish. 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I am still not satisfied with the buttons, yet it seems they > does look better and less candy/cartoonish. And the borderless variant > seems that will look better, so I consider switching to it with next > pack of sketches. > > Thanks for comments, > Martin > > References: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Surely, your (would-be) work can be > pushed to the official crystal source code(upstream). well.. that`s nice but not what i want. i want to make a theme for fedora with the goal of making it the defualt theme for Fedora 8. To me, your idea will be easy to implement. And considering the fact, > that F8 development cycle is about 5 months. Hence it will be quick to > create such theme for F8. i have no doubt that i can`t finish this theme well before F8 goos final. i have vacation now for about 2 1/2 month so more than enough play time for this theme. and a brainstorm.. would it be cool to have a brushed mac like background in the menu stuff? so kinda like the top part of the buddy list in this image: http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/1093/untitledfj2.jpg or would a soft gradient be cool? that`s the top part of the computer window in the avove link. 2007/6/9, Chitlesh GOORAH : > > On 6/9/07, Mark wrote: > > looking good but not wise for fedora to use as a default theme.. that > will > > most likely result in a few lawsuits from well know company (starting > with a > > M ending with a t) ;) > > No ! Actually this is the official window decorator of the kubuntu > distribution. > If you have installed crystal, you will see the themes of kubuntu > (edgy,fiesty),vista,aqua,svg.. are included. The crystal development > team work closely with kubuntu. I don't think they will object fedora > choosing it as default as well, (if it would be) > > To me, your idea will be easy to implement. And considering the fact, > that F8 development cycle is about 5 months. Hence it will be quick to > create such theme for F8. > > Crystal provides many themes, some screenshots on fedora: > - kubuntu-dapper: http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=537757887&size=o > see how the close button hovers to red > - kubuntu-feisty: http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=537757889&size=o > see how the minimize button hovers to blue > - vista: http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=537757891&size=o > > Take a look at > http://tux.u-strasbg.fr/~chit/crystal-1.0.4/pics/ > These themes shipped by the crystal source code. > > You can design a new fedora theme of crystal. All you have to work on > is the artwork, > which is actually the goal of this mailing list :) Thus how the icons > will hover will not be your problem. > > If you are planning to work on it, I'll be glad to give a hand for > testing and integrating it for f8. Surely, your (would-be) work can be > pushed to the official crystal source code(upstream). > > Here is the 1.0.4 rpm, I'll be pushing soon: > RPM : http://tux.u-strasbg.fr/~chit/RPMS/crystal-1.0.4-1.i386.rpm > SRPM: http://tux.u-strasbg.fr/~chit/RPMS/crystal-1.0.4-1.src.rpm > > meanwhile you can do some testing and report any weird issues if any. > > I don't know yet, if KDE4 will make it before F8. But if it does, you > might consider the time and effort you are putting for 3.5.x. The > "oxygen" icon set of KDE4 is simply great. > > > regards, > Chitlesh > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I though I could learn something... my vacations probably starts at the beginning of Jule and I will have plenty of time until October, so I considered that I could also learn how to make a KDE theme (and I also considered gxine hacking, it lacks some features I'd like to have). But as Metacity goes, I did only one theme so far, and it was only incomplete modification of another theme, I think I'll need to read docs... But I'll need also to learn GTK and QT theming for the other part of the theme... Well, at least my vacations won't be boring :D But if you would want to make your theme by me in Metacity nonetheless, I will gladly do (after I finish the exams). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(that`s the boring part) 2007/6/10, Martin Sourada : > > On Sun, 2007-06-10 at 00:13 +0200, Mark wrote: > > my exams are just over > > so you are gonna do your stuff in Metacity and i in KDE... perhaps we > > could do eachothers themes in the other window manager aswell? > > > so: you do my theme in Metacity nad i do yours in KDE (i`ve never made > > any theme in KDE ^_^) > > > > Hm... I though I could learn something... my vacations probably starts > at the beginning of Jule and I will have plenty of time until October, > so I considered that I could also learn how to make a KDE theme (and I > also considered gxine hacking, it lacks some features I'd like to have). > But as Metacity goes, I did only one theme so far, and it was only > incomplete modification of another theme, I think I'll need to read > docs... But I'll need also to learn GTK and QT theming for the other > part of the theme... Well, at least my vacations won't be boring :D > > But if you would want to make your theme by me in Metacity nonetheless, > I will gladly do (after I finish the exams). > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I believe thee is a Help Contents feature of the wiki, inside which will be the answer to your question. ./b -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Sun Jun 10 10:11:25 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:11:25 +0200 Subject: WIP - Fedora 8 theme In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706091509v4bd31ef4g125cf69a7b92657c@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80706081458k2f2a1e35mddcd974adc2ff1bb@mail.gmail.com> <466A7947.9040500@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80706090406l574228bfj4c2bf00951c3edf2@mail.gmail.com> <466A8B2D.3060905@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80706090446u9dbda93y695b68a2caf87b7e@mail.gmail.com> <1181404155.4031.25.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091055v53b946c5k5f4ce5e091e2b63b@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0706091442s6792f23eua73c0d3f2a11d626@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706091509v4bd31ef4g125cf69a7b92657c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1181470285.28023.29.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Well since everyone is dumping his preferences I've been a longtime supporter of the Metacity Alison theme: - based on the original bluecurve with nice big easy-to-hit flat buttons (not the small 3-d stuff that looks like a cheap chinese plastic gadget, and is difficult to target) - very light gradient that does not make text hard to read - light pleasing titlebar texture (not something you notice in screenshots, something you notice in everyday use) - colors synced with the gtk theme -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Sun Jun 10 12:13:34 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 14:13:34 +0200 Subject: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft In-Reply-To: <1181425874.4031.56.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091145t7379abc4x259c21581e20810d@mail.gmail.com> <1181415541.4031.39.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091309x7abddbd3o2768bcd589934ed0@mail.gmail.com> <1181421252.4031.45.camel@pc-notebook> <1181425874.4031.56.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1181477614.4031.85.camel@pc-notebook> Well, another I made another pack of sketches. This time I focused on the variant with thin borders, so I left the first one untouched. There are different buttons in the thin borders variant as I wanted to test how will it look. I made three another button sketches, however I most like the current one and I am not at all satisfied with the last two - it was just a test... I updated the wiki page [1], so you find all I just talked about there. It seems to me, that the final stage of WM theme mockups is drawing to an end, as I have finally drawn some buttons I quite like :) What do you think of it? Comments on thin/thick border, button style, colouring, usability, etc are more than welcome. Also, I noticed Nicolas's mail about Alison metacity theme, and the way how the buttons are handled there made me think, whether it would be better if the buttons were done that way... I will investigate this case later. Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From markg85 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 13:07:28 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:07:28 +0200 Subject: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft In-Reply-To: <1181477614.4031.85.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091145t7379abc4x259c21581e20810d@mail.gmail.com> <1181415541.4031.39.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091309x7abddbd3o2768bcd589934ed0@mail.gmail.com> <1181421252.4031.45.camel@pc-notebook> <1181425874.4031.56.camel@pc-notebook> <1181477614.4031.85.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706100607j78351adcsf35944966513ff9a@mail.gmail.com> Oke lets start with what i like :) - Thin borders are good - window decorations itself (without the buttons) are good What i don`t like - all the buttons you made so far.. The reason for the buttons.. they somehow just doesn`t seem to fit in the decoration itself. i don`t really know how to make that better.. It seems to me, that the final stage of WM > theme mockups is drawing to an end, as I have finally drawn some buttons > I quite like :) not really unless your not gonna make a taskbar and menubar stuff. 2007/6/10, Martin Sourada : > > Well, another I made another pack of sketches. This time I focused on > the variant with thin borders, so I left the first one untouched. There > are different buttons in the thin borders variant as I wanted to test > how will it look. I made three another button sketches, however I most > like the current one and I am not at all satisfied with the last two - > it was just a test... I updated the wiki page [1], so you find all I > just talked about there. It seems to me, that the final stage of WM > theme mockups is drawing to an end, as I have finally drawn some buttons > I quite like :) > > What do you think of it? Comments on thin/thick border, button style, > colouring, usability, etc are more than welcome. Also, I noticed > Nicolas's mail about Alison metacity theme, and the way how the buttons > are handled there made me think, whether it would be better if the > buttons were done that way... I will investigate this case later. > > Thanks, > Martin > > References: > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Sun Jun 10 13:28:27 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:28:27 +0200 Subject: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706100607j78351adcsf35944966513ff9a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091145t7379abc4x259c21581e20810d@mail.gmail.com> <1181415541.4031.39.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091309x7abddbd3o2768bcd589934ed0@mail.gmail.com> <1181421252.4031.45.camel@pc-notebook> <1181425874.4031.56.camel@pc-notebook> <1181477614.4031.85.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706100607j78351adcsf35944966513ff9a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1181482108.4031.92.camel@pc-notebook> On Sun, 2007-06-10 at 15:07 +0200, Mark wrote: > Oke lets start with what i like :) > - Thin borders are good > - window decorations itself (without the buttons) are good > > What i don`t like > - all the buttons you made so far.. > > The reason for the buttons.. they somehow just doesn`t seem to fit in > the decoration itself. > i don`t really know how to make that better.. > Yep, agreed, I like the current buttons as they are, but they just don't fit the rest of the theme somehow... I have now in head two or three more types, will see, how it will work... > It seems to me, that the final stage of WM > theme mockups is drawing to an end, as I have finally drawn > some buttons > I quite like :) > > not really unless your not gonna make a taskbar and menubar stuff. Nope, I am drawing finally to the Window Manager mockup end. AFAIK in GNOME menubar is part of GTK theme... And task bar I dunno yet where does it falls, but I will probably make it after I finish the window decorations... I am gonna to make whole theme, but part by part, not everything at the same time :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(MageDB, MageForum etc.. and all work in progress). so that`s how i made up Mage. Fedora = ... what do you think Theme = ... nothing fancy.. just theme. 2007/6/10, Nicolas Mailhot : > > Well since everyone is dumping his preferences I've been a longtime > supporter of the Metacity Alison theme: > > - based on the original bluecurve with nice big easy-to-hit flat buttons > (not the small 3-d stuff that looks like a cheap chinese plastic gadget, > and is difficult to target) > - very light gradient that does not make text hard to read > - light pleasing titlebar texture (not something you notice in > screenshots, something you notice in everyday use) > - colors synced with the gtk theme > > -- > Nicolas Mailhot > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markg85 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 13:45:08 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:45:08 +0200 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <1181406293.3880.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> <4667BF3D.5060601@nicubunu.ro> <4668C3DF.3020200@redhat.com> <4668F425.5050807@nicubunu.ro> <4669D056.20200@redhat.com> <1181406293.3880.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706100645x7e80d8b5l34b6d96f3e25118b@mail.gmail.com> what`s the ide with the fedora 8 theme battle? because i only see 2 drafts.. one of myself and someone else. or is the theming battle not even started yet. 2007/6/9, Paul W. Frields : > > On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 17:55 -0400, M?ir??n Duffy wrote: > > Well, I think there are two things we can do to help avoid the issues > > we had last release: > > > > - We should be as open and as transparent as possible wrt our progress > > on the themes. We should post to Planet Fedora for example, at least > > every two weeks on the situation so there are no surprises for anyone > > involved by the time the 3rd and final theme deadline is reached. > > Remember also that the major bits need to be implemented by the final > > deadline so hopefully we will have folks from Desktop assisting with > > that process thus they'll be aware of the stuff we're coming up with and > > be able to give their input. > > Hitting the nail on the head, excellent. > > > - We could have a representative of Desktop team and a representative of > > the Fedora board to give a signoff on the final theme design, to make > > sure they agree its a proper representation of Fedora and the desktop. > > We should make sure each of these representatives is made aware of how > > we're doing along with posting our updates. > > > > Sound reasonable? Paul is already our representative to the Board I > > think; would you be willing to be the desktop liaison, Matthias? > > I'll no longer be with the Board shortly, since my seat is up for > elections Real Soon Now, but it's not like they're going to sever lines > of communication with me or anything. If they think they still need > this liaison position to be a Board member, that's fine; otherwise I'm > happy to help out in whatever capacity they'd like. > > > >> Do these dates make sense? If so, would anybody object to me going > ahead > > >> and announcing the F8 theme process? - I'm thinking a Fedora News > > >> announcement, here on this list + marketing + websites list, > > >> fedoraforum.org, and I can make a post on Fedora Planet as well. > > > > > > I think the dates are just fine, go ahead with the announcements. > > > > Will do :) > > +1 > > > >> - Milestone 4: Mon 10 Sept - concept discussion for F8 marketing > > >> materials on the marketing list. Come up with a standard tagline for > the > > >> release the way we did "Reach higher" for the new static FPO website, > > >> and maybe some promo banner ideas as well. > > > > > > This is fine. > > > If I understand you correctly, the tagline is related to the graphic > > > theme (DNA - Evolved, FlyingHigh - Reach higher) > > > > Yep exactly, so it makes sense to come up with this after the graphic > > theme is decided. > > This is a really well-coordinated plan of attack; I like it! > > > >> - Milestone 5: Mon 24 Sept - finalize artwork/design for F8 DVD/CD > > >> labels and sleeves. At least a professional-printer (eg > screenprinting) > > >> ready version of each needs to be made of the labels - 3 or 4 colors > at > > >> most. An additional set with more colors / more complex design could > > >> also be prepared for home users with inkjet printers. > > > > > > Is not this a little earlier? Those last milestones my go in parallel > > > schedule, CD covers are not blockers for screenshots in the press kit > > > and are not blocked by the promo banners, all of them use the release > > > theming as a root. > > > > Do you think the promo kit should come first? I was thinking that a lot > > of folks block on the disc designs, folks who are holding launch events > > and magazines and such. And the disc designs could be included in the > > promo kit. > > > > > Anyway, we should create a page similar to the ThemingOverview for all > > > those marketing related graphics, as a central point of reference. > > +1 > > > > >> - Milestone 7: Mon 15 October - finalize fedoraproject.orgpromotional > > >> materials. Probably will consist of: (1) F8 tour with screenshots, > (2) > > >> big promo banner for the front page of the site at launch time. Work > > >> with the websites and infrastructure teams to get a staging site set > up > > >> and ready to go for the final release date. > > > > > > Another "yes" from me on this. > > > > > > Maybe yet another milestone working with the documentation people on > the > > > Firefox start page? > > > > This is a great idea, I totally forget this. We could include this task > > in the milestone with the FPO materials. > > In your defense, this was a very late-start issue we tried to handle for > F7 and just couldn't get it off the ground with everything else going > on. I'll be happy to help get any design stuff into our CVS, etc., of > course. > > > >> Also to make my meaning clear, by 'basic' I'm thinking just an > abstract > > >> (likely blue) graphic style with a plain Fedora logo and that's it. > No > > >> balloons, dna, bubbles, or anything like that. :) So it could have a > > >> style, and that style could even complement what the theme is, but it > > >> wouldn't have the balloons or whatever the theme element is in it. > (Does > > >> that make sense?) > > > > > > Say instead something like "Tentacles" or "GNOME Curves" (with a > Fedora > > > touch) from the default selection of wallpapers and I am sold. > > > > +1 Something along those lines with a small Fedora logo is what I was > > thinking "basic" would be. > > Great! It is really good to see the open discussions spinning up around > a well thought out strategy and timeline. I think folks who are under > the impression "How can it get any better?" are in for a *big* surprise. > > -- > Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > Fedora Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Sun Jun 10 14:09:16 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:09:16 +0200 Subject: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft In-Reply-To: <1181482108.4031.92.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091145t7379abc4x259c21581e20810d@mail.gmail.com> <1181415541.4031.39.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091309x7abddbd3o2768bcd589934ed0@mail.gmail.com> <1181421252.4031.45.camel@pc-notebook> <1181425874.4031.56.camel@pc-notebook> <1181477614.4031.85.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706100607j78351adcsf35944966513ff9a@mail.gmail.com> <1181482108.4031.92.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1181484558.4031.94.camel@pc-notebook> Well, yet another batch of buttons... Please look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft there are currently 8 sets of buttons, while two of them are listed twice (the second incarnation is with pressed buttons). 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(the lower right one) but i think it`s better to either drop the 3 different color idea or make them in a soft color. 2007/6/10, Martin Sourada : > > Well, yet another batch of buttons... Please look at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft there are > currently 8 sets of buttons, while two of them are listed twice (the > second incarnation is with pressed buttons). > > Comments welcome :) > > Thanks, > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markg85 at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 14:17:34 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:17:34 +0200 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <1181484907.4031.100.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> <4667BF3D.5060601@nicubunu.ro> <4668C3DF.3020200@redhat.com> <4668F425.5050807@nicubunu.ro> <4669D056.20200@redhat.com> <1181406293.3880.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> <6e24a8e80706100645x7e80d8b5l34b6d96f3e25118b@mail.gmail.com> <1181484907.4031.100.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706100717s2f64eb9bha5a9b13c4f851337@mail.gmail.com> i`m currently working on a KDM mockup.. but i can`t really say that i`m happy with the result so far 2007/6/10, Martin Sourada : > > On Sun, 2007-06-10 at 15:45 +0200, Mark wrote: > > what`s the ide with the fedora 8 theme battle? because i only see 2 > > drafts.. one of myself and someone else. > > or is the theming battle not even started yet. > > > > wWll, and considering what kind of themes are we doing I see there > currently zero themes that are meant for release graphic (i.e. > wallpaper, gdm theme, anconda theme, etc.). But it seems that at least > on FedoraForum some ideas formed for the wallpaper, I plan to post a > summary here at the evening. But I think, it's been quite short time > since the announcement, so I hope people will come with ideas in time :) > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Sun Jun 10 14:32:29 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:32:29 +0200 Subject: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706100716sde01afcqbcbddcb42179cab6@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091145t7379abc4x259c21581e20810d@mail.gmail.com> <1181415541.4031.39.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091309x7abddbd3o2768bcd589934ed0@mail.gmail.com> <1181421252.4031.45.camel@pc-notebook> <1181425874.4031.56.camel@pc-notebook> <1181477614.4031.85.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706100607j78351adcsf35944966513ff9a@mail.gmail.com> <1181482108.4031.92.camel@pc-notebook> <1181484558.4031.94.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706100716sde01afcqbcbddcb42179cab6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1181485949.4031.103.camel@pc-notebook> On Sun, 2007-06-10 at 16:16 +0200, Mark wrote: > i would go for that last one.. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Sun Jun 10 14:57:46 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:57:46 +0200 Subject: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft In-Reply-To: <1181487078.647.0.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091145t7379abc4x259c21581e20810d@mail.gmail.com> <1181415541.4031.39.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091309x7abddbd3o2768bcd589934ed0@mail.gmail.com> <1181421252.4031.45.camel@pc-notebook> <1181425874.4031.56.camel@pc-notebook> <1181477614.4031.85.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706100607j78351adcsf35944966513ff9a@mail.gmail.com> <1181482108.4031.92.camel@pc-notebook> <1181484558.4031.94.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706100716sde01afcqbcbddcb42179cab6@mail.gmail.com> <1181487078.647.0.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <1181487466.1273.2.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le dimanche 10 juin 2007 ? 16:51 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot a ?crit : > Le dimanche 10 juin 2007 ? 16:16 +0200, Mark a ?crit : > > i would go for that last one.. (the lower right one) but i think it`s > > better to either drop the 3 different color idea or make them in a > > soft color. > > or play on mouseover/click for brighter colours Also it's probably possible to play on the horizontal line separating the buttons, it needn't be strictly straight, maybe it's possible to curve its ends slightly and add an horizontal etch to remind a fedora f. -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Sun Jun 10 14:59:53 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:59:53 +0200 Subject: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft In-Reply-To: <1181485949.4031.103.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091145t7379abc4x259c21581e20810d@mail.gmail.com> <1181415541.4031.39.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091309x7abddbd3o2768bcd589934ed0@mail.gmail.com> <1181421252.4031.45.camel@pc-notebook> <1181425874.4031.56.camel@pc-notebook> <1181477614.4031.85.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706100607j78351adcsf35944966513ff9a@mail.gmail.com> <1181482108.4031.92.camel@pc-notebook> <1181484558.4031.94.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706100716sde01afcqbcbddcb42179cab6@mail.gmail.com> <1181485949.4031.103.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1181487593.4031.109.camel@pc-notebook> Ok, so I did hopefully last batch of icons. This time I only played with coulours. The result is on the wiki page [1]. As I think about what Nicolas said, maybe one of the set could be used for standard state of the buttons and another (probably one of those more colourful) for highlighted version... I also made a blue version, and it seems that it looks better than the rest... References: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Antonio Menezes. 2007/6/10, fedora-art-list-request at redhat.com < fedora-art-list-request at redhat.com>: > > Send Fedora-art-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-art-list-request at redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-art-list-owner at redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-art-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft (Martin Sourada) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:02:31 +0200 > From: Martin Sourada > Subject: Re: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft > To: Discussions about the artwork "included with Fedora, including > icons, themes, and wallpapers." > Message-ID: <1181487751.4031.113.camel at pc-notebook> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Sun, 2007-06-10 at 16:57 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Also it's probably possible to play on the horizontal line separating > > the buttons, it needn't be strictly straight, maybe it's possible to > > curve its ends slightly and add an horizontal etch to remind a fedora f. > > > > That's a really interesting idea I will try what I can do, though maybe > I would need to mirror the f to better fit the window caption layout :) > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 189 bytes > Desc: This is a digitally signed message part > Url : > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/attachments/20070610/f5826598/attachment.bin > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > End of Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 15, Issue 22 > *********************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 20:11:22 2007 From: ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:11:22 +0100 Subject: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft In-Reply-To: <1181487751.4031.113.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> <1181425874.4031.56.camel@pc-notebook> <1181477614.4031.85.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706100607j78351adcsf35944966513ff9a@mail.gmail.com> <1181482108.4031.92.camel@pc-notebook> <1181484558.4031.94.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706100716sde01afcqbcbddcb42179cab6@mail.gmail.com> <1181487078.647.0.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <1181487466.1273.2.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <1181487751.4031.113.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0706101311i1fb615b1xe2299addcd5912fa@mail.gmail.com> To give my 2pence on these ideas, I like the thicker border, it seems easier to resize - something to grab hold of. As for the icons, the ones at the bottom centre that fill the bar without the effects go well with the saturation of the title bar colour and the background wallpapers. The rollover effect could be that shown in the bottom-right image. Keep up the good work! -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 20:13:28 2007 From: ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:13:28 +0100 Subject: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 15, Issue 22 In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0706100934v783391caod5b6cab440a367c@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070610160005.0205C736CB@hormel.redhat.com> <45a1d57e0706100927t15c3f2a9i833be39f869f7aa5@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0706100934v783391caod5b6cab440a367c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0706101313p69b99533xe36384fbddd3471b@mail.gmail.com> Try exporting it as a PNG for preview purposes along with a re-saved Inkscape SVG. If you want to share any other dsigns, you can just put "Image / Design / Sketch / Idea / something -- Title" as the e-mail subject to this list. ./b On 10/06/07, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > On 6/10/07, Antonio Menezes wrote: > > Hello! > > > > Maybe it is not the correct way of posting my art, but I'd like send you > > this image. > > Sounds like your image is broken. I can't read it. > > Chitlesh > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Sun Jun 10 21:24:20 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 23:24:20 +0200 Subject: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft In-Reply-To: <9c3bfa1d0706101311i1fb615b1xe2299addcd5912fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> <1181425874.4031.56.camel@pc-notebook> <1181477614.4031.85.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706100607j78351adcsf35944966513ff9a@mail.gmail.com> <1181482108.4031.92.camel@pc-notebook> <1181484558.4031.94.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706100716sde01afcqbcbddcb42179cab6@mail.gmail.com> <1181487078.647.0.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <1181487466.1273.2.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <1181487751.4031.113.camel@pc-notebook> <9c3bfa1d0706101311i1fb615b1xe2299addcd5912fa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1181510660.3319.4.camel@pc-notebook> On Sun, 2007-06-10 at 22:11 +0200, Ben Arnold wrote: > To give my 2pence on these ideas, I like the thicker border, it seems > easier to resize - something to grab hold of. > I am still not decided about the borders, but ATM I am more inclined to the thin ones - they save space and seems to me that they are a little nicer... About resize you are probably right, at least from psychological point of view... grabbing of line might seem more difficult than grabbing of a "tube". > As for the icons, the ones at the bottom centre that fill the bar > without the effects go well with the saturation of the title bar > colour and the background wallpapers. > I personally prefer the softer version of these (third column, middle row), it also seems to me that it match the echo icons slightly better. > The rollover effect could be that shown in the bottom-right image. > > Keep up the good work! > Yep, that seems reasonable. :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Sun Jun 10 21:32:03 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 23:32:03 +0200 Subject: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft In-Reply-To: <1181487751.4031.113.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091145t7379abc4x259c21581e20810d@mail.gmail.com> <1181415541.4031.39.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091309x7abddbd3o2768bcd589934ed0@mail.gmail.com> <1181421252.4031.45.camel@pc-notebook> <1181425874.4031.56.camel@pc-notebook> <1181477614.4031.85.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706100607j78351adcsf35944966513ff9a@mail.gmail.com> <1181482108.4031.92.camel@pc-notebook> <1181484558.4031.94.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706100716sde01afcqbcbddcb42179cab6@mail.gmail.com> <1181487078.647.0.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <1181487466.1273.2.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <1181487751.4031.113.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1181511123.3319.12.camel@pc-notebook> I put together today's last batch of sketches. As Nicolas suggested I tried to explore the f style of the horizontal etches, but even though I like the idea I really don't like how the buttons look like. Also, I made two set of sketches with thin borders, one with buttons that that I like most and one with buttons I was suggested to use on fedoraforum. I still stay with the colour idea, however if a general opinion would be to stick with blue buttons I can use them... And I made first sketch of top panel, and added it to the picture with my favourite buttons. I started with yellow-orange hue of the panel, as it nicely matches blue hues, but I wasn?t content with it and returned to light blue... Comments welcome. Thanks, Martin References: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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As Nicolas suggested I > tried to explore the f style of the horizontal etches, but even though I > like the idea I really don't like how the buttons look like. You're right, my idea sucks, however I rather like the last shape variant -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Sun Jun 10 22:23:17 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 00:23:17 +0200 Subject: Fedora 8 Artwork, FedoraForum discussion summary Message-ID: <1181514197.3319.33.camel@pc-notebook> Hi folks, week is over and as I ran by some interesting ideas at FedoraForum in a thread I made for purpose of Fedora 8 Artwork, and as there are a lot of noise compared to signal, I though it would be good to write a brief summary of the ideas. Idea 1: Evolving Flying High It started as a photo of a biplane and evolved to photo space ship, even a planete wallpaper was suggested. My opinion about this is that it is not a bad idea but I would prefer more abstract theme for Fedora 8, so maybe a space/planet could be used as a basis for more abstract design. Idea 2: Swimming Deep This idea started as a joke, but I think it's very good idea and it could be done nicely abstract. The philosophy behind could be, that Fedora 6 was about evolving, Fedora 7 about reaching highs and Fedora 8 thus could be about reaching deeps. Just show the world that Fedora explores every corner of the world. Two nice photos could server as basis for abstract design: http://www.bestqualitywallpapers.com/Nature/Underwater.jpg http://www.duiops.net/seresvivos/galeria/tiburones/ph-11575.jpg Idea 3: Ocean Its blue and it symbolises infinity. Idea 4: Moon Well, blue sky and big moon on it - does it sound bad? IMO not at all. And example photos: http://www.zianet.com/ZYLOO/luna1.JPG http://www.zianet.com/ZYLOO/luna3.JPG Idea 5: a button set http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?p=808142 this just says it all. Martin References: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=157254 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My opinion about this is that it is > not a bad idea but I would prefer more abstract theme for Fedora 8, so > maybe a space/planet could be used as a basis for more abstract design. > > Idea 2: Swimming Deep > This idea started as a joke, but I think it's very good idea and it > could be done nicely abstract. The philosophy behind could be, that > Fedora 6 was about evolving, Fedora 7 about reaching highs and Fedora 8 > thus could be about reaching deeps. Just show the world that Fedora > explores every corner of the world. Two nice photos could server as > basis for abstract design: > http://www.bestqualitywallpapers.com/Nature/Underwater.jpg > http://www.duiops.net/seresvivos/galeria/tiburones/ph-11575.jpg > > Idea 3: Ocean > Its blue and it symbolises infinity. > > Idea 4: Moon > Well, blue sky and big moon on it - does it sound bad? IMO not at all. > And example photos: > http://www.zianet.com/ZYLOO/luna1.JPG > http://www.zianet.com/ZYLOO/luna3.JPG > > Idea 5: a button set > http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?p=808142 > this just says it all. > > Martin > > References: > http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=157254 > I suggest to create a wiki page for each idea. Luya From tshimulu at gmail.com Sun Jun 10 22:45:32 2007 From: tshimulu at gmail.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:45:32 -0700 Subject: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft In-Reply-To: <1181511123.3319.12.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091145t7379abc4x259c21581e20810d@mail.gmail.com> <1181415541.4031.39.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706091309x7abddbd3o2768bcd589934ed0@mail.gmail.com> <1181421252.4031.45.camel@pc-notebook> <1181425874.4031.56.camel@pc-notebook> <1181477614.4031.85.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706100607j78351adcsf35944966513ff9a@mail.gmail.com> <1181482108.4031.92.camel@pc-notebook> <1181484558.4031.94.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706100716sde01afcqbcbddcb42179cab6@mail.gmail.com> <1181487078.647.0.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <1181487466.1273.2.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <1181487751.4031.113.camel@pc-notebook> <1181511123.3319.12.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <466C7F0C.2080100@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Martin Sourada a ?crit : > I put together today's last batch of sketches. As Nicolas suggested > I tried to explore the f style of the horizontal etches, but even > though I like the idea I really don't like how the buttons look > like. > > Also, I made two set of sketches with thin borders, one with > buttons that that I like most and one with buttons I was suggested > to use on fedoraforum. I still stay with the colour idea, however > if a general opinion would be to stick with blue buttons I can use > them... I personally like the third and fourth column[1] design of the button for usability. I designed a draft of button so you can add on your idea.[2] I think thin border for the window is more elegant than thick. You can also view my sketch about window[3]. 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I designed a draft of button so you can add on your > idea.[2] Will do. Your draft of buttons look very nice, yet it seems to me that they are not easy distinguishable from the windows border (being of very similar colour and without outline). Luckily the white signs save the day :) > I think thin border for the window is more elegant than thick. You can > also view > my sketch about window[3]. I ran across this one some time ago. What I like about it is how nice the window caption transits softly to menu, what I don't like (generally) are rounded bottom corners of windows. Also the hover action on menu items is very useful and IMO nice. I am one of those who dislike the behaviour of Fedora default theme where the hover action over menu does nothing to it. > > > [1]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft > > [2]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga/Sandbox > [3]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga/MetacityConcept > > Luya > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFGbH1da10Jb0NOz+ERAnpDAJ0Y1SNVO2fwgEJU0DIEI8KlwkU4kwCeJV+y > 4VaSo8Q3uRMb7jmWMIkn+k4= > =GNip > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From duffy at redhat.com Mon Jun 11 05:27:34 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=ED=ADn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 01:27:34 -0400 Subject: metacity theme mockup Message-ID: <466CDD46.5080004@redhat.com> I was doodling in Inkscape and came up with this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MairinDuffy/Sandbox I made the buttons wide so they would be easy to click on; I gave them narrow margins with the titlebar to give the feeling that they were quite large to make them feel more clickable. I'm not quite happy with the indented button; not quite sure what's wrong with it. Anyway the Inkscape SVG is there, if anybody is interested in working on it or using parts of it feel free. ~m From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Mon Jun 11 05:29:18 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 07:29:18 +0200 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0706102229l78e92e44r3522cc13c0af1f62@mail.gmail.com> On 6/7/07, Mark wrote: > So yea if i`m the first who can actually show something with theming (not > mocking up but really making it work in kde) than i would like to be the > first one :) Talking about kde, what is really the path we are going to take - crystal like (my favourite) ? - gnome like (german kde core developpers will accuse us again for destroying their work) ? However, like i said before, we should bear in mind KDE4 is different from KDE3.5. Meaning your work on kde3.5 might not be ported to kde4. My request would be to work on several kde images such as: - login / logout screens - kcontrol main page - kde metabar. (I have requested (and it was accepted for F7) a fedora 5 metabar ) http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Fedora+Bubbles+Metabar+theme+V2?content=53028 Perhaps it could be updated accordingly. more https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2006-December/msg00206.html Surely any design should be fedora related but fedora release independent. For KDE4, many apps will have their artwork revamp, so staying tune with upstream is imminent. regards, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Jun 11 06:00:34 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:00:34 +0300 Subject: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft In-Reply-To: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <466CE502.4020501@nicubunu.ro> Martin Sourada wrote: > > as Mark did I also start a new thread concerning a theme I started to > make. > > References: > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft Why all the themes proposed use such a bright blue for the title bar? Thanks $DEITY now is easy to customize the theme and change this color... -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Jun 11 06:22:30 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:22:30 +0300 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <4669D056.20200@redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> <4667BF3D.5060601@nicubunu.ro> <4668C3DF.3020200@redhat.com> <4668F425.5050807@nicubunu.ro> <4669D056.20200@redhat.com> Message-ID: <466CEA26.6070903@nicubunu.ro> M?ir??n Duffy wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: > > - We could have a representative of Desktop team and a representative of > the Fedora board to give a signoff on the final theme design, to make > sure they agree its a proper representation of Fedora and the desktop. > We should make sure each of these representatives is made aware of how > we're doing along with posting our updates. > > Sound reasonable? Paul is already our representative to the Board I > think; would you be willing to be the desktop liaison, Matthias? I would like to hear from them even is just a single "+" or "-" at each milestone, but this is the idea. > Do you think the promo kit should come first? I was thinking that a lot > of folks block on the disc designs, folks who are holding launch events > and magazines and such. And the disc designs could be included in the > promo kit. Maybe we should hear a word about this from the people using the promo kit and the CD labels to see if the dates are OK >> Say instead something like "Tentacles" or "GNOME Curves" (with a >> Fedora touch) from the default selection of wallpapers and I am sold. > > +1 Something along those lines with a small Fedora logo is what I was > thinking "basic" would be. My first reaction was like this: no matter how low is my creativity at this particular point, I should be able to put together a few curly stripes and an very discrete logo but then got struck by an idea: the basic theme can be an extremely simplified and stylized shape illustrating the base metaphor as the complex theme. For example a basic F7 theme would be a big rounded blob (the balloon) and a few wavy stripes (the sky). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Mon Jun 11 07:30:59 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:30:59 +0200 Subject: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft In-Reply-To: <466CE502.4020501@nicubunu.ro> References: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> <466CE502.4020501@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1181547059.3319.52.camel@pc-notebook> On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 08:00 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > > > as Mark did I also start a new thread concerning a theme I started to > > make. > > > > References: > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft > > Why all the themes proposed use such a bright blue for the title bar? The reason is, that I like this particular blue and it's indeed based of Fedora Blue, Logo Light (#0084C8, and even darkened a little; you can notice that it's very near to the blue on the wastebasket). > Thanks $DEITY now is easy to customize the theme and change this color... Yep, it could, but we can as well make two versions of the theme, like is usually done with cursors -- one bright and one dark, as there are evidently people who prefer dark colours and people who prefer bright colours. The question is which ones form majority :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Feel free to edit the page as necessary; if you find something is important, please add it to the ideas. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract Thanks ./b -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Mon Jun 11 11:51:01 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:51:01 +0200 Subject: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft In-Reply-To: <1181548185.3319.54.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> <466CE502.4020501@nicubunu.ro> <1181547059.3319.52.camel@pc-notebook> <1181548185.3319.54.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1181562661.3319.62.camel@pc-notebook> I added three new sets of buttons for consideration. They are all based od M?ir?n's and Luya's mockups. 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About the darker window. that`s looks alot better!! :) About the taskbar.. i like the blue background of the "Applications" but other than that i don`t really like the taskbar.. perhaps it looks better when you blend in the test color a little? Good luck, Mark. 2007/6/11, Martin Sourada : > > I added three new sets of buttons for consideration. They are all based > od M?ir?n's and Luya's mockups. > > Comments welcome, > Martin > > References: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markg85 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 13:08:40 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:08:40 +0200 Subject: metacity theme mockup In-Reply-To: <466D0D1F.2090609@gmail.com> References: <466CDD46.5080004@redhat.com> <466D0D1F.2090609@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706110608v70ee4990s159dd88a4facfb86@mail.gmail.com> you 2 have a good looking bar but i personally would blend the buttons in a little so that they don`t attract the attention so much as they do now. also i would play a little more with the buttons from Mairin.. perhaps round them and stith them together like Luya did. and please add a full window and background so you get an idea how it will look in action. Nice attempts so far. Good luck, Mark. 2007/6/11, Luya Tshimbalanga : > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > M?ir??n Duffy a ?crit : > > I was doodling in Inkscape and > came up with this: > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MairinDuffy/Sandbox > > > > I made the buttons wide so they would be easy to click on; I gave > > them narrow margins with the titlebar to give the feeling that they > > were quite large to make them feel more clickable. I'm not quite > > happy with the indented button; not quite sure what's wrong with it. > > > This metacity reminds Clearlooks 2 found Fedora Core 5. I attached a > variation modifying both minimize and close buttons. 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I'll > try again later. > > Feel free to edit the page as necessary; if you find something is > important, please add it to the ideas. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract This is awesome, thank you! Everything is gathered together in one place now :) ~m From markg85 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 13:32:16 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:32:16 +0200 Subject: Fedora 8 Artwork, FedoraForum discussion summary In-Reply-To: <466C7DC9.1030506@gmail.com> References: <1181514197.3319.33.camel@pc-notebook> <466C7DC9.1030506@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706110632s5c10bb42h65981ff6310537fc@mail.gmail.com> i believe the moon/planet stuff has been tried with Fedora 7 and didn`t work out well. (the attempts where nice) but that water idea is a real good one. for example.. take those fishes on the left and replace them with fedora logo`s :P or fishes carrying the fedora logo.. 2007/6/11, Luya Tshimbalanga : > > Martin Sourada a ?crit : > > Hi folks, > > > > week is over and as I ran by some interesting ideas at FedoraForum in a > > thread I made for purpose of Fedora 8 Artwork, and as there are a lot of > > noise compared to signal, I though it would be good to write a brief > > summary of the ideas. > > > > Idea 1: Evolving Flying High > > It started as a photo of a biplane and evolved to photo space ship, even > > a planete wallpaper was suggested. My opinion about this is that it is > > not a bad idea but I would prefer more abstract theme for Fedora 8, so > > maybe a space/planet could be used as a basis for more abstract design. > > > > Idea 2: Swimming Deep > > This idea started as a joke, but I think it's very good idea and it > > could be done nicely abstract. The philosophy behind could be, that > > Fedora 6 was about evolving, Fedora 7 about reaching highs and Fedora 8 > > thus could be about reaching deeps. Just show the world that Fedora > > explores every corner of the world. Two nice photos could server as > > basis for abstract design: > > http://www.bestqualitywallpapers.com/Nature/Underwater.jpg > > http://www.duiops.net/seresvivos/galeria/tiburones/ph-11575.jpg > > > > Idea 3: Ocean > > Its blue and it symbolises infinity. > > > > Idea 4: Moon > > Well, blue sky and big moon on it - does it sound bad? 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URL: From jayme.ayres at unopar.br Mon Jun 11 13:33:12 2007 From: jayme.ayres at unopar.br (Jayme Ayres) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:33:12 -0300 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <9c3bfa1d0706110439p49f6c69avb7a6cfa47271376a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666D0A2.5040205@redhat.com> <4667BF3D.5060601@nicubunu.ro> <4668C3DF.3020200@redhat.com> <4668F425.5050807@nicubunu.ro> <4669D056.20200@redhat.com> <466CEA26.6070903@nicubunu.ro> <9c3bfa1d0706110439p49f6c69avb7a6cfa47271376a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <466D4F18.8010202@unopar.br> Hi folks!! Thank you to put my 4elements artwork in images ideas i hope to contribute still more for the project. att. -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com www.jaymeayres.orgfree.com Ben Arnold escreveu: > Sorry to butt into the conversation here but I am throwing these ideas > onto a wiki page along with links etc. to start the sketches and ideas > for the design, also to save searching though this huge conversation > or the images! > > I am, however, having trouble uploading the image at the bottom. I'll > try again later. > > Feel free to edit the page as necessary; if you find something is > important, please add it to the ideas. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract > > Thanks > ./b > From markg85 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 13:26:36 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:26:36 +0200 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <13dbfe4f0706102229l78e92e44r3522cc13c0af1f62@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0706102229l78e92e44r3522cc13c0af1f62@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706110626w38ba279fvf3be6fffe046e639@mail.gmail.com> > > However, like i said before, we should bear in mind KDE4 is different > from KDE3.5. Meaning your work on kde3.5 might not be ported to kde4. > My request would be to work on several kde images such as: > - login / logout screens That`s a good idea. i already started on a KDM theme (not satisfied yet). But what is the logout screen? is that kdelogo -> "Log Out" if that`s the one.. how do you theme that one? - kcontrol main page Also good to theme but HOW? how can i theme that part? - kde metabar. (I have requested (and it was accepted for F7) a fedora > 5 metabar ) > > http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Fedora+Bubbles+Metabar+theme+V2?content=53028 > Perhaps it could be updated accordingly. > more > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2006-December/msg00206.html Yes this is a part that`s troubling me alot. i want to have a matabar myself but not the konquerors one.. that looks plain ugly with a fat border at the right and a fat ugly bar at the left.. if those 2 could go it would be a awsome thing to have in F8. (i know the left bar can go.. don`t know about the right one) Whatever it`s gonna be with that border stuff.. i will mock up something anyway. And a fedora logo question. i personally don`t like the default fedora ogo image so i use this one: http://mola.c100c.com/index.php?blog/show/Fedora_logo_in_blender (second one of cause) hope that`s not a problem. 2007/6/11, Chitlesh GOORAH : > > On 6/7/07, Mark wrote: > > So yea if i`m the first who can actually show something with theming > (not > > mocking up but really making it work in kde) than i would like to be the > > first one :) > > Talking about kde, > what is really the path we are going to take > - crystal like (my favourite) ? > - gnome like (german kde core developpers will accuse us again for > destroying their work) ? > > However, like i said before, we should bear in mind KDE4 is different > from KDE3.5. Meaning your work on kde3.5 might not be ported to kde4. > My request would be to work on several kde images such as: > - login / logout screens > - kcontrol main page > - kde metabar. (I have requested (and it was accepted for F7) a fedora > 5 metabar ) > > http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Fedora+Bubbles+Metabar+theme+V2?content=53028 > Perhaps it could be updated accordingly. > more > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2006-December/msg00206.html > > Surely any design should be fedora related but fedora release > independent. For KDE4, many apps will have their artwork revamp, so > staying tune with upstream is imminent. > > regards, > Chitlesh > -- > http://clunixchit.blogspot.com > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From duffy at redhat.com Mon Jun 11 13:41:51 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:41:51 -0400 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706110626w38ba279fvf3be6fffe046e639@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0706102229l78e92e44r3522cc13c0af1f62@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706110626w38ba279fvf3be6fffe046e639@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <466D511F.4010607@redhat.com> Hi Mark, Mark wrote: > And a fedora logo question. > i personally don`t like the default fedora ogo image so i use this one: > http://mola.c100c.com/index.php?blog/show/Fedora_logo_in_blender (second > one > of cause) > hope that`s not a problem. Unfortunately that is a problem. :( You see, the logo as it is without 3D effects or anything like that is a really big part of the Fedora project's identity. It's actually expressly forbidden for folks to use modified versions of the logo (see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines). This is so that the Fedora project has a unified brand and to lessen confusion about what is and isn't officially a part of the project. I have to recommend that you find a way to work the standard Fedora logo into your designs. ~m From duffy at redhat.com Mon Jun 11 13:44:00 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:44:00 -0400 Subject: Fedora 8 Artwork, FedoraForum discussion summary In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706110632s5c10bb42h65981ff6310537fc@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181514197.3319.33.camel@pc-notebook> <466C7DC9.1030506@gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706110632s5c10bb42h65981ff6310537fc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <466D51A0.3060707@redhat.com> Mark wrote: > i believe the moon/planet stuff has been tried with Fedora 7 and didn`t > work > out well. (the attempts where nice) It didn't? ~m From markg85 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 13:46:15 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:46:15 +0200 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <466D511F.4010607@redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0706102229l78e92e44r3522cc13c0af1f62@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706110626w38ba279fvf3be6fffe046e639@mail.gmail.com> <466D511F.4010607@redhat.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706110646y535247e3q734ee0edb13addbc@mail.gmail.com> hmm.. oke when i make the actual proposals with the designs they will have the real and official fedora logo`s. but can`t the logo itself be reworked a little with a little 3d feeling in it? 2007/6/11, M?ir?n Duffy : > > Hi Mark, > > Mark wrote: > > And a fedora logo question. > > i personally don`t like the default fedora ogo image so i use this one: > > http://mola.c100c.com/index.php?blog/show/Fedora_logo_in_blender (second > > one > > of cause) > > hope that`s not a problem. > > Unfortunately that is a problem. :( You see, the logo as it is without > 3D effects or anything like that is a really big part of the Fedora > project's identity. It's actually expressly forbidden for folks to use > modified versions of the logo (see > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines). This is so that the > Fedora project has a unified brand and to lessen confusion about what is > and isn't officially a part of the project. > > I have to recommend that you find a way to work the standard Fedora logo > into your designs. > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From duffy at redhat.com Mon Jun 11 13:48:14 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:48:14 -0400 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706110646y535247e3q734ee0edb13addbc@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0706102229l78e92e44r3522cc13c0af1f62@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706110626w38ba279fvf3be6fffe046e639@mail.gmail.com> <466D511F.4010607@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706110646y535247e3q734ee0edb13addbc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <466D529E.5050600@redhat.com> Mark wrote: > hmm.. oke > when i make the actual proposals with the designs they will have the real > and official fedora logo`s. > but can`t the logo itself be reworked a little with a little 3d feeling in > it? It's really not supposed to, read the guidelines and see for yourself. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Jun 11 13:54:12 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:54:12 +0300 Subject: Fedora 8 Artwork, FedoraForum discussion summary In-Reply-To: <466D51A0.3060707@redhat.com> References: <1181514197.3319.33.camel@pc-notebook> <466C7DC9.1030506@gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706110632s5c10bb42h65981ff6310537fc@mail.gmail.com> <466D51A0.3060707@redhat.com> Message-ID: <466D5404.4030605@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Mark wrote: >> i believe the moon/planet stuff has been tried with Fedora 7 and >> didn`t work >> out well. (the attempts where nice) > > It didn't? Of course it did :p I think we better avoid a moon/planet/sky theme for F8, to not have two consecutive releases with the same graphic concept (F7 is sky/moon) and maybe revisit it sometime later (F9, F10...). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From markg85 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 14:00:04 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:00:04 +0200 Subject: Fedora 8 Artwork, FedoraForum discussion summary In-Reply-To: <466D51A0.3060707@redhat.com> References: <1181514197.3319.33.camel@pc-notebook> <466C7DC9.1030506@gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706110632s5c10bb42h65981ff6310537fc@mail.gmail.com> <466D51A0.3060707@redhat.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706110700p335723dbv9802a128481bd529@mail.gmail.com> yea.. there where some fedora planet proposals.. here it is: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/FC7Themes/Fc7ThemeProposalplanet?highlight=%28planet%29 but to continue with the wallpaper idea. with the previous wallpaper there was a comment (from a fedora official if i`m correct) that stated that the clouds where symbolic and could be seen that fedora is a rising project. so to continue in that idea the ocean will perhaps be vissable but not from below ^_^. perhaps something like this is a good idea: http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/downloads/00671_theworld_1920x1200.jpg or http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/downloads/00979_octobersky_1920x1200.jpg or http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/downloads/01041_skyabovechina_1920x1200.jpg but if the fedora officials want to continue that idea than Fedora 9 will need to have a space picture that`s looking down to earth.. and so on.. like this: http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/downloads/00045_aquanight_1920x1200.jpg(only than a real image and not a toon like drawing) and Fedora 20 (give or take a few) will need to have something like this: http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/downloads/01091_thefinalfrontier_1920x1200.jpg so better give up the rising idea in time ;) could work for fedora 8 and perhaps 9 but after that... ^_^ 2007/6/11, M?ir?n Duffy : > > Mark wrote: > > i believe the moon/planet stuff has been tried with Fedora 7 and didn`t > > work > > out well. (the attempts where nice) > > It didn't? > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Jun 11 14:01:06 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:01:06 +0300 Subject: [F8 theme proposal^Widea] Fedora Tea Message-ID: <466D55A2.8030807@nicubunu.ro> I got this theming idea a few days ago but not being sure I will follow it with any concrete artwork, I'll share it here, so it is not lost for good: something tea related. It may be tea leaves, a tea pot, tea bag, iced tea or just tea colors, but it have to be subtle, not explicitly related to the IcedTea [1] project (the 100% free implementation of the OpenJDK) which may be one of the greatest features in F8. The metaphor in this theming idea can be enjoyment: one enjoy his distro of choice just like he enjoy his favorite beverage (and the beverage thing is a tie/link to moonshine). On the same note, the metaphor may be even more brutal and use something coffee: coffee stains, coffee beans, coffee colors. Last minute addition: how about something about fortune telling using tea leaves?[2] I think is possible to do an interesting pattern of leaves, maybe something abstract or the infinity symbol made from tea leaves. [1] http://icedtea.classpath.org/wiki//Main_Page [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasseography -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From markg85 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 14:03:16 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:03:16 +0200 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <466D529E.5050600@redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0706102229l78e92e44r3522cc13c0af1f62@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706110626w38ba279fvf3be6fffe046e639@mail.gmail.com> <466D511F.4010607@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706110646y535247e3q734ee0edb13addbc@mail.gmail.com> <466D529E.5050600@redhat.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706110703i3d620d6dn9f5063448ef4e278@mail.gmail.com> can you also reply on the other questions i had? don`t worry about the logo. i will use the official in my final proposals. 2007/6/11, M?ir?n Duffy : > > Mark wrote: > > hmm.. oke > > when i make the actual proposals with the designs they will have the > real > > and official fedora logo`s. > > but can`t the logo itself be reworked a little with a little 3d feeling > in > > it? > > It's really not supposed to, read the guidelines and see for yourself. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From duffy at redhat.com Mon Jun 11 14:11:53 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:11:53 -0400 Subject: Fedora 8 Artwork, FedoraForum discussion summary In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706110700p335723dbv9802a128481bd529@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181514197.3319.33.camel@pc-notebook> <466C7DC9.1030506@gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706110632s5c10bb42h65981ff6310537fc@mail.gmail.com> <466D51A0.3060707@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706110700p335723dbv9802a128481bd529@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <466D5829.3020903@redhat.com> Mark wrote: > yea.. there where some fedora planet proposals.. > here it is: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/FC7Themes/Fc7ThemeProposalplanet?highlight=%28planet%29 Yeah, my question wasn't about their existence (I made some of them :) ) it was more about the 'it didn't work out well' comment. I don't know that everyone here would agree with that is all. I've given talks in front of large groups of folks before with some of that artwork set as my wallpaper and had several people ask where they could get that wallpaper. :) So I don't necessarily agree with your assessment. I try not to be dismissive of other folks' work, and not at least without some critique to back it up you know? I think that's probably a good rule to follow on this list as more artwork is getting posted more frequently (an awesome thing! :) ) ~m From duffy at redhat.com Mon Jun 11 14:12:50 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:12:50 -0400 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706110703i3d620d6dn9f5063448ef4e278@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0706102229l78e92e44r3522cc13c0af1f62@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706110626w38ba279fvf3be6fffe046e639@mail.gmail.com> <466D511F.4010607@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706110646y535247e3q734ee0edb13addbc@mail.gmail.com> <466D529E.5050600@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706110703i3d620d6dn9f5063448ef4e278@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <466D5862.1070501@redhat.com> Mark wrote: > can you also reply on the other questions i had? > don`t worry about the logo. i will use the official in my final proposals. Unfortunately I'm not a KDE user and haven't been for at least 5 years now :) So I'm not really equipped to answer your other questions from that email, sorry. ~m From markg85 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 14:17:25 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:17:25 +0200 Subject: Fedora 8 Artwork, FedoraForum discussion summary In-Reply-To: <466D5829.3020903@redhat.com> References: <1181514197.3319.33.camel@pc-notebook> <466C7DC9.1030506@gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706110632s5c10bb42h65981ff6310537fc@mail.gmail.com> <466D51A0.3060707@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706110700p335723dbv9802a128481bd529@mail.gmail.com> <466D5829.3020903@redhat.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706110717n45cc93f2wb6301f181e59f064@mail.gmail.com> sorry, i more meant it like.. it didn`t make it in the official fedora release. i hope i didn`t hurt anyone with my previous statement. i personally like almost all the artwork that was posted for F7. i can`t really say it for F8 because all that artwork is just started. 2007/6/11, M?ir?n Duffy : > > Mark wrote: > > yea.. there where some fedora planet proposals.. > > here it is: > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/FC7Themes/Fc7ThemeProposalplanet?highlight=%28planet%29 > > Yeah, my question wasn't about their existence (I made some of them :) ) > it was more about the 'it didn't work out well' comment. > > I don't know that everyone here would agree with that is all. I've given > talks in front of large groups of folks before with some of that artwork > set as my wallpaper and had several people ask where they could get that > wallpaper. :) So I don't necessarily agree with your assessment. > > I try not to be dismissive of other folks' work, and not at least > without some critique to back it up you know? I think that's probably a > good rule to follow on this list as more artwork is getting posted more > frequently (an awesome thing! :) ) > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 14:25:12 2007 From: ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:25:12 +0100 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706110626w38ba279fvf3be6fffe046e639@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0706102229l78e92e44r3522cc13c0af1f62@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706110626w38ba279fvf3be6fffe046e639@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0706110725g170d7d9fl6fca36ad644c6da9@mail.gmail.com> On 11/06/07, Mark wrote: > > However, like i said before, we should bear in mind KDE4 is different > > from KDE3.5. Meaning your work on kde3.5 might not be ported to kde4. > > My request would be to work on several kde images such as: > > - login / logout screens > > That`s a good idea. i already started on a KDM theme (not satisfied yet). > But what is the logout screen? is that kdelogo -> "Log Out" > if that`s the one.. how do you theme that one? http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-kiosk&m=114558484606388&w=2 reckons it's either in /usr/share/apps/ksmserver/pics or /opt/kde3/share/apps/ksmserver/pics but if you have a look at http://kde-artists.org/logout then it says to look in /usr/share/apps/ksmserver/pics, I did and it's there. I haven't tried to modify it, though. Once again, http://kde-artists.org/logout > > - kcontrol main page > > Also good to theme but HOW? how can i theme that part? A quick Google didn't turn up anything of any interest for me, sorry. I don't know if that's gonna be a difficult one. ./b -- ..// seawolf //.. 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From ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 14:25:12 2007 From: ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:25:12 +0100 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706110626w38ba279fvf3be6fffe046e639@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0706102229l78e92e44r3522cc13c0af1f62@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706110626w38ba279fvf3be6fffe046e639@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0706110725g170d7d9fl6fca36ad644c6da9@mail.gmail.com> On 11/06/07, Mark wrote: > > However, like i said before, we should bear in mind KDE4 is different > > from KDE3.5. Meaning your work on kde3.5 might not be ported to kde4. > > My request would be to work on several kde images such as: > > - login / logout screens > > That`s a good idea. i already started on a KDM theme (not satisfied yet). > But what is the logout screen? is that kdelogo -> "Log Out" > if that`s the one.. how do you theme that one? http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-kiosk&m=114558484606388&w=2 reckons it's either in /usr/share/apps/ksmserver/pics or /opt/kde3/share/apps/ksmserver/pics but if you have a look at http://kde-artists.org/logout then it says to look in /usr/share/apps/ksmserver/pics, I did and it's there. I haven't tried to modify it, though. Once again, http://kde-artists.org/logout > > - kcontrol main page > > Also good to theme but HOW? how can i theme that part? A quick Google didn't turn up anything of any interest for me, sorry. I don't know if that's gonna be a difficult one. ./b -- ..// seawolf //.. 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From duffy at redhat.com Mon Jun 11 15:02:00 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:02:00 -0400 Subject: Fedora 8 Artwork, FedoraForum discussion summary In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706110717n45cc93f2wb6301f181e59f064@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181514197.3319.33.camel@pc-notebook> <466C7DC9.1030506@gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706110632s5c10bb42h65981ff6310537fc@mail.gmail.com> <466D51A0.3060707@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706110700p335723dbv9802a128481bd529@mail.gmail.com> <466D5829.3020903@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706110717n45cc93f2wb6301f181e59f064@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <466D63E8.4010809@redhat.com> Mark wrote: > sorry, i more meant it like.. it didn`t make it in the official fedora > release. > i hope i didn`t hurt anyone with my previous statement. > i personally like almost all the artwork that was posted for F7. > i can`t really say it for F8 because all that artwork is just started. +1 it's all good, I thought it was good opportunity to point out the critique policy we started adopting last go-round. ~m From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Mon Jun 11 16:28:00 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:28:00 +0200 Subject: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706110602i760a4157ra6c6bee19a3600e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> <466CE502.4020501@nicubunu.ro> <1181547059.3319.52.camel@pc-notebook> <1181548185.3319.54.camel@pc-notebook> <1181562661.3319.62.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706110602i760a4157ra6c6bee19a3600e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1181579281.3319.70.camel@pc-notebook> On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 15:02 +0200, Mark wrote: > that last button set is exactly what i had in mind for my theme :) it > just doesn`t seem to fit right so i left it out. in your case it also > doesn`t seem to fit the theme.. but the attempt is nice. > Yep, they look very interesting, but as majority of the other ones, don't fit there somehow... > About the darker window. that`s looks alot better!! :) > I thought it too when I first tried it. :) IMO it goes better with the button colours I used... > About the taskbar.. > i like the blue background of the "Applications" but other than that i > don`t really like the taskbar.. perhaps it looks better when you blend > in the test color a little? > Maybe you are right, as I tested different hues, saturations and brightnesses I grow to like this one, but it might be that I look too much on it :) What test colour do you mean? 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Meaning your work on kde3.5 might not be ported to kde4. > > > My request would be to work on several kde images such as: > > > - login / logout screens > > > > That`s a good idea. i already started on a KDM theme (not satisfied > yet). > > But what is the logout screen? is that kdelogo -> "Log Out" > > if that`s the one.. how do you theme that one? > > http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-kiosk&m=114558484606388&w=2 > reckons it's either in /usr/share/apps/ksmserver/pics or > /opt/kde3/share/apps/ksmserver/pics but if you have a look at > http://kde-artists.org/logout > then it says to look in /usr/share/apps/ksmserver/pics, I did and > it's there. 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URL: From markg85 at gmail.com Mon Jun 11 17:46:12 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:46:12 +0200 Subject: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft In-Reply-To: <1181579281.3319.70.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> <466CE502.4020501@nicubunu.ro> <1181547059.3319.52.camel@pc-notebook> <1181548185.3319.54.camel@pc-notebook> <1181562661.3319.62.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706110602i760a4157ra6c6bee19a3600e1@mail.gmail.com> <1181579281.3319.70.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706111046k6d4d1abnfc93d4f4c96156ba@mail.gmail.com> test is a typo. it was meant to be: "text" resulting in: "perhaps it looks better when you blend in the text color a little?" 2007/6/11, Martin Sourada : > > On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 15:02 +0200, Mark wrote: > > that last button set is exactly what i had in mind for my theme :) it > > just doesn`t seem to fit right so i left it out. in your case it also > > doesn`t seem to fit the theme.. but the attempt is nice. > > > Yep, they look very interesting, but as majority of the other ones, > don't fit there somehow... > > > About the darker window. that`s looks alot better!! :) > > > I thought it too when I first tried it. :) IMO it goes better with the > button colours I used... > > > About the taskbar.. > > i like the blue background of the "Applications" but other than that i > > don`t really like the taskbar.. perhaps it looks better when you blend > > in the test color a little? > > > Maybe you are right, as I tested different hues, saturations and > brightnesses I grow to like this one, but it might be that I look too > much on it :) What test colour do you mean? 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There are two blue panels (those I > like most), three blue but less saturated one orange-yellow and one > completely gray. > > Comments welcome, > Martin > > References: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I quite like its blue colour, as the same hover action will be on applications menu items... I still wonder how I will make a widgets theme, however... I have not decided yet how much of blue I will use and what could be done orange/yellow -- and the panel needs to fit it... The whole desktop needs to fit it. Seems the real fun just begins :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I played a little with one of the blue panels and created new mockup. I also tried all the panels again the Fedora 7 wallpaper, Echo icons and the darker metacity and picked two (and created the three I talked about) panel mockups. I updated the wiki [1] and also added smaller previews of how those panels look with the stuff around. Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Jun 12 07:10:12 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:40:12 +0530 Subject: metacity theme mockup In-Reply-To: <466D0D1F.2090609@gmail.com> References: <466CDD46.5080004@redhat.com> <466D0D1F.2090609@gmail.com> Message-ID: <466E46D4.2090502@fedoraproject.org> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > This metacity reminds Clearlooks 2 found Fedora Core 5. I attached a > variation modifying both minimize and close buttons. Perhaps making > the theme sighly subtle will suffice. The curved edges in your mockup looks better to me than the square edges in Mo's. There are multiple ways to highlight focus including indentation, glow, color change (lighter/darker shade or a completely different color). Do we have anyone committed to make the necessary modifications in the theme engines? Otherwise all the effort doing the mockups isn't going to make a difference. Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Jun 12 07:39:51 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:09:51 +0530 Subject: Don't use trademark images in Grub In-Reply-To: <1181569260.3630.1.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> References: <4663C148.1040909@codewiz.org> <1180980718.15415.29.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> <1180981031.10913.3.camel@workstation.unixkiste.local> <200706041421.51808.jkeating@redhat.com> <20070607145703.GB25221@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1181294808.3782.0.camel@workstation.unixkiste.local> <466B8F76.1080301@fedoraproject.org> <1181471430.7684.3.camel@bigbox.unixkiste.local> <1181481524.3445.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1181549400.3827.17.camel@workstation.unixkiste.local> <1181569260.3630.1.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <466E4DC7.7040602@fedoraproject.org> Matthias Clasen wrote: > > You are not listening. No matter how easy it is to split off a > subpackage, legal has asked us to keep all trademarked images in a > single package. > > Anyway, there is still an easy way out; just don't use trademarked > images in grub. That should be pretty easy to do. CC'ing fedora-art list. The plan for Fedora 8 is to reduce the branding in the images anyway. Rahul From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Tue Jun 12 10:13:44 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:13:44 -0700 Subject: metacity theme mockup In-Reply-To: <466E46D4.2090502@fedoraproject.org> References: <466CDD46.5080004@redhat.com> <466D0D1F.2090609@gmail.com> <466E46D4.2090502@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <466E71D8.8050409@thefinalzone.com> Rahul Sundaram a ?crit : > Do we have anyone committed to make the necessary modifications in the > theme engines? Otherwise all the effort doing the mockups isn't going > to make a difference. > > Rahul > I thought it was a job for Fedora Desktop team. I am not really familiar with metacity although I briefly play with it. I think we need someone like Havoc for help creating a metacity based on mockup. Luya From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Jun 12 10:40:45 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:10:45 +0530 Subject: metacity theme mockup In-Reply-To: <466E71D8.8050409@thefinalzone.com> References: <466CDD46.5080004@redhat.com> <466D0D1F.2090609@gmail.com> <466E46D4.2090502@fedoraproject.org> <466E71D8.8050409@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <466E782D.1050502@fedoraproject.org> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Rahul Sundaram a ?crit : >> Do we have anyone committed to make the necessary modifications in the >> theme engines? Otherwise all the effort doing the mockups isn't going >> to make a difference. >> >> Rahul >> > I thought it was a job for Fedora Desktop team. It might be but I need specific people to volunteer to do the work before go along doing mockups. Rahul From chitlesh at fedoraproject.org Tue Jun 12 11:54:19 2007 From: chitlesh at fedoraproject.org (Chitlesh GOORAH) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:54:19 +0200 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706110626w38ba279fvf3be6fffe046e639@mail.gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0706102229l78e92e44r3522cc13c0af1f62@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706110626w38ba279fvf3be6fffe046e639@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13dbfe4f0706120454l65354d59xa6588697ee65422a@mail.gmail.com> On 6/11/07, Mark wrote: > But what is the logout screen? is that kdelogo -> "Log Out" > if that`s the one.. how do you theme that one? > > - kcontrol main page > Also good to theme but HOW? how can i theme that part? You can create a new fedora theme like for: - log out: http://kde-artists.org/logout - kcontrol: /usr/share/apps/kcontrol/about/top-right-kcontrol.png chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com From mclasen at redhat.com Tue Jun 12 12:42:42 2007 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:42:42 -0400 Subject: metacity theme mockup In-Reply-To: <466E782D.1050502@fedoraproject.org> References: <466CDD46.5080004@redhat.com> <466D0D1F.2090609@gmail.com> <466E46D4.2090502@fedoraproject.org> <466E71D8.8050409@thefinalzone.com> <466E782D.1050502@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1181652162.3785.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 16:10 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > > Rahul Sundaram a ?crit : > >> Do we have anyone committed to make the necessary modifications in the > >> theme engines? Otherwise all the effort doing the mockups isn't going > >> to make a difference. > >> > >> Rahul > >> > > I thought it was a job for Fedora Desktop team. > > It might be but I need specific people to volunteer to do the work > before go along doing mockups. > Heh, I wasn't aware you are the new Fedora Mockup Manager... Anyway, there nobody from the desktop team is committed to doing theme engine work on the F8 timescale. I recommend working with existing engines, or if that is problematic, work with upstream to get necessary changes implemented. Matthias From rdieter at math.unl.edu Tue Jun 12 13:57:29 2007 From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:57:29 -0500 Subject: F8 artwork References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0706102229l78e92e44r3522cc13c0af1f62@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > However, like i said before, we should bear in mind KDE4 is different > from KDE3.5. Meaning your work on kde3.5 might not be ported to kde4. +1. F8 will (almost certainly) include kde4, and only skeleton bits of kde3 for compatibility purposes, so I'd recommend not spending too much time/energy on kde3-specific theming at this point. Hopefully, we'll have some sort of initial alpha/beta packaging of kde4 available within the next month (or so), so folks can look-at/work-on that. -- Rex From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Jun 12 14:12:05 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:42:05 +0530 Subject: metacity theme mockup In-Reply-To: <1181652162.3785.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <466CDD46.5080004@redhat.com> <466D0D1F.2090609@gmail.com> <466E46D4.2090502@fedoraproject.org> <466E71D8.8050409@thefinalzone.com> <466E782D.1050502@fedoraproject.org> <1181652162.3785.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <466EA9B5.2050900@fedoraproject.org> Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 16:10 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: >>> Rahul Sundaram a ?crit : >>>> Do we have anyone committed to make the necessary modifications in the >>>> theme engines? Otherwise all the effort doing the mockups isn't going >>>> to make a difference. >>>> >>>> Rahul >>>> >>> I thought it was a job for Fedora Desktop team. >> It might be but I need specific people to volunteer to do the work >> before go along doing mockups. >> > > Heh, I wasn't aware you are the new Fedora Mockup Manager... You are reading that too literally. I am not managing mockups. Just citing the need for someone to be volunteering to do the work on the theming engines in GNOME and KDE if required and keeping that in mind while doing mockups. Do you disagree? Rahul From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Tue Jun 12 18:11:29 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:11:29 -0700 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <4666B933.7000104@nicubunu.ro> <4666EAD4.5070601@fedoraproject.org> <4666F1B4.7060308@redhat.com> <6e24a8e80706061103y52030b1bw92b02536ddf16cb1@mail.gmail.com> <1181156132.14160.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1181204517.4667c02569d5c@ssl.mecca.ca> <6e24a8e80706070419m2d665323kade8e07beea6f2a8@mail.gmail.com> <13dbfe4f0706102229l78e92e44r3522cc13c0af1f62@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <466EE1D1.7020600@thefinalzone.com> Rex Dieter a ?crit : > Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > > >> However, like i said before, we should bear in mind KDE4 is different >> from KDE3.5. Meaning your work on kde3.5 might not be ported to kde4. >> > > +1. F8 will (almost certainly) include kde4, and only skeleton bits of kde3 > for compatibility purposes, so I'd recommend not spending too much > time/energy on kde3-specific theming at this point. > > Hopefully, we'll have some sort of initial alpha/beta packaging of kde4 > available within the next month (or so), so folks can look-at/work-on that. > > -- Rex > +1 as well. From markg85 at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 00:11:36 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:11:36 +0200 Subject: metacity theme mockup In-Reply-To: <466EA9B5.2050900@fedoraproject.org> References: <466CDD46.5080004@redhat.com> <466D0D1F.2090609@gmail.com> <466E46D4.2090502@fedoraproject.org> <466E71D8.8050409@thefinalzone.com> <466E782D.1050502@fedoraproject.org> <1181652162.3785.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <466EA9B5.2050900@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706121711r6b52977ajcbc5cd12422a0a27@mail.gmail.com> sorry to say but when i`m making mockups i`m not really gonna count in the technical parts.. technical details are something that can be taken care of in a later later stage of theming. 2007/6/12, Rahul Sundaram : > > Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 16:10 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > >>> Rahul Sundaram a ?crit : > >>>> Do we have anyone committed to make the necessary modifications in > the > >>>> theme engines? Otherwise all the effort doing the mockups isn't going > >>>> to make a difference. > >>>> > >>>> Rahul > >>>> > >>> I thought it was a job for Fedora Desktop team. > >> It might be but I need specific people to volunteer to do the work > >> before go along doing mockups. > >> > > > > Heh, I wasn't aware you are the new Fedora Mockup Manager... > > You are reading that too literally. I am not managing mockups. Just > citing the need for someone to be volunteering to do the work on the > theming engines in GNOME and KDE if required and keeping that in mind > while doing mockups. Do you disagree? > > Rahul > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I played a little with one of the blue > panels and created new mockup. I also tried all the panels again the > Fedora 7 wallpaper, Echo icons and the darker metacity and picked two > (and created the three I talked about) panel mockups. I updated the wiki > [1] and also added smaller previews of how those panels look with the > stuff around. > > Thanks, > Martin > > References: > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mola.mp at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 13:42:49 2007 From: mola.mp at gmail.com (Mola Pahnadayan) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:12:49 +0330 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <466FF459.9070309@gmail.com> Hi all :) what you think about artwork of F8 compatibility with codename,* *Mascot and Season(Fall,winter) ? ** From mola.mp at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 13:44:30 2007 From: mola.mp at gmail.com (Mola Pahnadayan) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:14:30 +0330 Subject: 3D Fedora Logo In-Reply-To: <466D6365.3010303@redhat.com> References: <466D6365.3010303@redhat.com> Message-ID: <466FF4BE.8060601@gmail.com> Can add 3D logo to Wiki ? http://mola.c100c.com/index.php?blog/show/Fedora_logo_in_blender From baerjj at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 13:47:24 2007 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:47:24 -0400 Subject: Fedora RHGB Remix Message-ID: <466FF56C.7080909@gmail.com> All, We spoke some time back about providing guidance to folks who desire to customize Fedora artwork to meet their needs. In an effort to honor that commitment I created a Wiki page titled Fedora 7 Remix @ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/Fedora7Remix for your consideration. I did not remove the *Under development* banner pending your comments and improvements. Once these pages are complete and if it is the desire of the team, I suggest a link is placed in Fedora news and a post submitted to the forum. Cheers, John From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Jun 13 14:30:14 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:30:14 +0300 Subject: F8 artwork In-Reply-To: <466FF459.9070309@gmail.com> References: <1181135122.3454.12.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> <466FF459.9070309@gmail.com> Message-ID: <466FFF76.9050600@nicubunu.ro> Mola Pahnadayan wrote: > Hi all :) > what you think about artwork of F8 compatibility with codename,* *Mascot > and Season(Fall,winter) ? So like having a theme for the fall release (F8) with dry leaves and a spring one (F9) with blooming flowers? If you have the mood, go forward and do a proposal like this. Personally if I would make artwork based on the season I would be tempted to make something cooler (with a lot of ice cubes) matching the hot summer outside, theme which would not fit at all an October/November release. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From markg85 at gmail.com Wed Jun 13 22:25:59 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:25:59 +0200 Subject: Fedora RHGB Remix In-Reply-To: <466FF56C.7080909@gmail.com> References: <466FF56C.7080909@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706131525ia167481pe90d9799d0a80b09@mail.gmail.com> the only thing i like in that is the change of the spinner. and even that might not be wist to change because it reminds of the vista spinner. your attempt is nice but somehow it doesn`t seem to be a (big) improvement. 2007/6/13, John Baer : > > All, > > We spoke some time back about providing guidance to folks who desire to > customize Fedora artwork to meet their needs. In an effort to honor that > commitment I created a Wiki page titled Fedora 7 Remix @ > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/Fedora7Remix for > your consideration. > > I did not remove the *Under development* banner pending your comments > and improvements. Once these pages are complete and if it is the desire > of the team, I suggest a link is placed in Fedora news and a post > submitted to the forum. > > Cheers, > > John > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't have much free time lately, so the progress will be rather slow... Please bear in mind that these are first sketches and colouring is meant to be adjusted after majority of widgets is prepared to better fit together with the rest and to look nice to as many people as possible. And the stage of adjusting I would like to be more community driven - i.e. more direct contributors and more "prereviewers" and I would also consider it final stage before the real theme making will start. Thanks for comments, Martin References: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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JJM 2007/6/14, Martin Sourada : > > On request from Jiri Jakub Masek I made new set of buttons (I made the > right corner of a window clickable, so that focus can be assigned by > clicking on it), on request from some people even make yet darker the > "dark side", and made a very incomplete sketch of widgets (currently > incomplete menu, toolbars, status bar and progress bar). I don't have > much free time lately, so the progress will be rather slow... Please > bear in mind that these are first sketches and colouring is meant to be > adjusted after majority of widgets is prepared to better fit together > with the rest and to look nice to as many people as possible. And the > stage of adjusting I would like to be more community driven - i.e. more > direct contributors and more "prereviewers" and I would also consider it > final stage before the real theme making will start. > > Thanks for comments, > Martin > > References: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -- I'm still learning English... Ji?? Jakub Ma?ek - Mr Jiri Jakub Masek Czech Republic, European Union http://jjm.xf.cz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Fri Jun 15 10:57:00 2007 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 03:57:00 -0700 Subject: Fedora RHGB Remix In-Reply-To: <4671F7B1.7090002@gmail.com> References: <20070614160006.B736C73C05@hormel.redhat.com> <4671F7B1.7090002@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4672707C.6070706@thefinalzone.com> John Baer a ?crit : > Mark from markg85 at gmail.com wrote: >> the only thing i like in that is the change of the spinner. >> and even that might not be wist to change because it reminds of the vista >> spinner. >> your attempt is nice but somehow it doesn`t seem to be a (big) improvement. >> >> > Mark, > > Thanks for the comment. You are correct, the art concept is basically > the same. > > Cheers, > > John >> 2007/6/13, John Baer : >> >>> All, >>> >>> We spoke some time back about providing guidance to folks who desire to >>> customize Fedora artwork to meet their needs. In an effort to honor that >>> commitment I created a Wiki page titled Fedora 7 Remix @ >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/Fedora7Remix for >>> your consideration. >>> >>> I did not remove the *Under development* banner pending your comments >>> and improvements. Once these pages are complete and if it is the desire >>> of the team, I suggest a link is placed in Fedora news and a post >>> submitted to the forum. >>> >>> Be in mind RHGB may be retired on Fedora 8. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureBetterStartup Luya From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Sat Jun 16 09:16:56 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 11:16:56 +0200 Subject: Nodoka - Fedora Theme Draft In-Reply-To: <1181823118.3103.11.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1181413060.4031.33.camel@pc-notebook> <1181562661.3319.62.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706110602i760a4157ra6c6bee19a3600e1@mail.gmail.com> <1181579281.3319.70.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706111046k6d4d1abnfc93d4f4c96156ba@mail.gmail.com> <1181585036.3319.71.camel@pc-notebook> <1181585878.3319.75.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706111258k21a5090fmb86c38727743f934@mail.gmail.com> <1181593140.3319.85.camel@pc-notebook> <1181596049.3319.90.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80706121724t5105b0b3la8f40d8e551b29eb@mail.gmail.com> <1181823118.3103.11.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1181985416.12604.5.camel@pc-notebook> Hello, I created more or less completed sketch of widgets and added bottom panel. I am well aware that some of the widgets are just too big and need to be smaller in the final version (most notably scroll bar and "equaliser"). So only notification is left to sketch. After I make it I think I will move to the second stage - adjusting and polishing - and would welcome everyone willing to help by comments, suggestions, direct contribution, etc. Thanks to your comments, Martin References: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I am well aware that some of the widgets are just too big and > need to be smaller in the final version (most notably scroll bar and > "equaliser"). > > So only notification is left to sketch. After I make it I think I will > move to the second stage - adjusting and polishing - and would welcome > everyone willing to help by comments, suggestions, direct contribution, > etc. > > Thanks to your comments, > Martin > > References: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I see the future development more or less this way: 2nd Stage (starting now) Gathering comments, suggestions, improvements, additional sources etc. to the mockup. I hope some will join my efforts in this stage (as some have already done by their valuable comments and suggestions) and help me polish the mockup... 3rd Stage Creating the real themes. I can learn how to do Metacity / KWM / GTK / QT(4) / Libnotify / etc theming, but I would be glad if someone who already has the "know-how" help me with creating it. Final Stage Polishing, final adjustments, testing. Thanks, Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com Sun Jun 17 14:49:18 2007 From: ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:49:18 +0100 Subject: Template for banner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0706170749r1b5faee6r6d0e117a68bb3e3b@mail.gmail.com> Thee is an SVG link directly underneath the image. If you open this in Inkscape, it is diretly editable and you can change it. We can, of course, provide it if you tell us what you want on it. ./b On 17/06/07, Anand Capur wrote: > Where is the template made by the Art Team for the banners. Art Team, > Infrastructure, Ambassadors, etc... > On the http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService > page, it says "this is my take (using the same template as the ArtTeam, the > icon may be changed)" Where is this template? > Thanks, > Anand > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com Sun Jun 17 16:01:53 2007 From: ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:01:53 +0100 Subject: 3D Fedora Logo In-Reply-To: <466FF4BE.8060601@gmail.com> References: <466D6365.3010303@redhat.com> <466FF4BE.8060601@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0706170901h528bc8cfy3b71b0bd9e4be155@mail.gmail.com> On 13/06/07, Mola Pahnadayan wrote: > > Can add 3D logo to Wiki ? > http://mola.c100c.com/index.php?blog/show/Fedora_logo_in_blender > Mola, I don't think the legal side of the fedoa logo allows things like this to be done officially. You might want to check with the logo at fedoaproject.org , partly or legal reasons and to see if they want it on the wik page. ./b -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From anandcomputerphreak at gmail.com Mon Jun 18 04:28:40 2007 From: anandcomputerphreak at gmail.com (Anand Capur) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:58:40 +0530 Subject: Template for banner In-Reply-To: <9c3bfa1d0706170749r1b5faee6r6d0e117a68bb3e3b@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c3bfa1d0706170749r1b5faee6r6d0e117a68bb3e3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ok, can you make one for the new Fedora Magazine? It should say Fedora Magazine and you can be creative on the icon... maby a magzine, or someone reading or something?? Thanks, Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Jun 18 06:57:40 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:57:40 +0300 Subject: Template for banner In-Reply-To: References: <9c3bfa1d0706170749r1b5faee6r6d0e117a68bb3e3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46762CE4.1090107@nicubunu.ro> Anand Capur wrote: > Ok, can you make one for the new Fedora Magazine? It should say Fedora > Magazine and you can be creative on the icon... maby a magzine, or > someone reading or something?? My take - attached Note: we have a wiki page for formal requests: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: FedoraMagazineN1.png Type: image/png Size: 11335 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For alternatives I suggest you to keep the background and text for consistency with the other banners and experiment with the icon -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com Mon Jun 18 11:02:41 2007 From: ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:02:41 +0100 Subject: Template for banner In-Reply-To: <467636FA.1090000@nicubunu.ro> References: <9c3bfa1d0706170749r1b5faee6r6d0e117a68bb3e3b@mail.gmail.com> <46762CE4.1090107@nicubunu.ro> <467636FA.1090000@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0706180402yff9eb3p3c18fdbb76684c41@mail.gmail.com> Being one behind the scenes of fedora, I'm taking a view other than reading the magazine :-) ./b -- ..// seawolf //.. 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Frields) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:48:17 -0400 Subject: Template for banner In-Reply-To: <46762CE4.1090107@nicubunu.ro> References: <9c3bfa1d0706170749r1b5faee6r6d0e117a68bb3e3b@mail.gmail.com> <46762CE4.1090107@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1182178097.20269.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 09:57 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Anand Capur wrote: > > Ok, can you make one for the new Fedora Magazine? It should say Fedora > > Magazine and you can be creative on the icon... maby a magzine, or > > someone reading or something?? > > My take - attached This is a really nice banner, but AFAIK the logo shouldn't be truncated as it is: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From cddesjardins at gmail.com Tue Jun 19 16:43:31 2007 From: cddesjardins at gmail.com (Christopher Desjardins) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:43:31 -0500 Subject: KDE theme "MageFedoraTheme" Message-ID: That theme is amazing! From the kmenu icon through the window borders to the kicker colour. I'd love to get a tarball of that if I could for my box locally. That theme mixed with the oxygen icons would look amazing! Terrific work. cheers, Chris -------- This thread was: "WIP - Fedora 8 theme" Renamed to: "MageFedoraTheme - Fedora Theme Draft" And another mockup. Changed: - Added a menu bar with some extra space below (example: menu bar and icon bar like in konqueror) - Added a right mouse click popup here it is: http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1186/kdebattlewip6lf8.png The mocking up end is comming closer now and i still had no name for this theme. The name for this theme is (for now) MageFedoraTheme The name explained. Mage = somehow i made mage out of my firstname and lastname and i keep using that for my scripts aswell.. (MageDB, MageForum etc.. and all work in progress). so that`s how i made up Mage. Fedora = ... what do you think Theme = ... nothing fancy.. just theme. From markg85 at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 12:47:48 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:47:48 +0200 Subject: KDE theme "MageFedoraTheme" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706200547w6a2040cbxaf61c21dc693a620@mail.gmail.com> thanx :) at this moment it`s still just a mockup so no tarballs yet. and why start a new topic when i didn`t even got one reply in: "MageFedoraTheme - Fedora Theme Draft"... that theme is intended for KDE but also for Gnome so i rather continue the discussion about my theme in the "MageFedoraTheme - Fedora Theme Draft" thread. 2007/6/19, Christopher Desjardins : > > That theme is amazing! From the kmenu icon through the window borders > to the kicker colour. I'd love to get a tarball of that if I could > for my box locally. That theme mixed with the oxygen icons would look > amazing! > Terrific work. > cheers, > Chris > -------- > This thread was: "WIP - Fedora 8 theme" > Renamed to: "MageFedoraTheme - Fedora Theme Draft" > > And another mockup. > > Changed: > - Added a menu bar with some extra space below (example: menu bar and > icon bar like in konqueror) > - Added a right mouse click popup > > here it is: http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1186/kdebattlewip6lf8.png > > The mocking up end is comming closer now and i still had no name for > this theme. > The name for this theme is (for now) MageFedoraTheme > > The name explained. > Mage = somehow i made mage out of my firstname and lastname and i keep > using that for my scripts aswell.. (MageDB, MageForum etc.. and all > work in progress). so that`s how i made up Mage. > Fedora = ... what do you think > Theme = ... nothing fancy.. just theme. > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markg85 at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 12:50:13 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:50:13 +0200 Subject: gnome-palm for echo-icon-theme In-Reply-To: <4674BB94.5080209@thefinalzone.com> References: <4674BB94.5080209@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706200550p625e0acey9f935917720a6edb@mail.gmail.com> everything except the display looks good. perhaps it`s a good idea to add a soft glow in the display? 2007/6/17, Luya Tshimbalanga : > > Resuming development of echo-icon-theme, I quickly designed a new > gnome-palm icon based from this model [1]. I took out details for > simplicity. > > > [1]http://www.palm.com/us/products/handhelds/z22/index.html > > > Note: I noticed an minor issue with librsvg that cannot handle blur > superposed on a plane for smaller icon therefore I disabled it. > > Luya > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markg85 at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 13:00:53 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:00:53 +0200 Subject: Official fedora logo in SVG? where is it? Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706200600g6d438b8bs3a8ff4e2349f5803@mail.gmail.com> Hey, i`ve looked over the fedora logo's in the wiki but i couldn't find the official logo (so the blue logo only!! without any text!! -> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=logomark.png) in svg or with a transparent background.. the logo that is on the wiki has a white background which is causing some problems in making mockups. Could someone add the SVG logo on the wiki there with a transparent background or a png version with a transparent background. thanx, Mark. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Wed Jun 20 13:09:35 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:09:35 +0200 Subject: Official fedora logo in SVG? where is it? In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706200600g6d438b8bs3a8ff4e2349f5803@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80706200600g6d438b8bs3a8ff4e2349f5803@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1182344975.3263.4.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 15:00 +0200, Mark wrote: > Hey, > > i`ve looked over the fedora logo's in the wiki but i couldn't find the > official logo (so the blue logo only!! without any text!! -> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=logomark.png) in svg or with a transparent background.. the logo that is on the wiki has a white background which is causing some problems in making mockups. > > Could someone add the SVG logo on the wiki there with a transparent > background or a png version with a transparent background. > > thanx, > Mark. > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list /usr/share/icons/Fedora/*/places/start-here.png these ones are pngs, but transparent ;-) Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I, personally do not have a SVG with it, either, I just use a self-made crop of it! ./b -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Jun 20 13:20:21 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:20:21 +0300 Subject: Official fedora logo in SVG? where is it? In-Reply-To: <9c3bfa1d0706200614r104b5d39gb6cea6478e6e1a8d@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80706200600g6d438b8bs3a8ff4e2349f5803@mail.gmail.com> <9c3bfa1d0706200614r104b5d39gb6cea6478e6e1a8d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46792995.9000003@nicubunu.ro> Ben Arnold wrote: > On 20/06/07, Mark wrote: >> Could someone add the SVG logo on the wiki there with a transparent >> background or a png version with a transparent background. > > I believe that you can e-amil logo at fedoraprejct.org (or whatever the > e-mail address is on the Logo wiki page) with a request for such a > file then they will send it to you. This might be to protect the > quality of fedora-derived imagery with the official logo on it. Or wait until Mairin read her emails, I believe she is in charge with this... but the logo@ address is the proper channel. IIRC, the requirement to ask permission is to protect the trademark. > I, personally do not have a SVG with it, either, I just use a > self-made crop of it! Well, if one know where to look, there are plenty of sources to get the SVG, even a version as official as possible :p -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From markg85 at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 13:55:33 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:55:33 +0200 Subject: Official fedora logo in SVG? where is it? In-Reply-To: <46792995.9000003@nicubunu.ro> References: <6e24a8e80706200600g6d438b8bs3a8ff4e2349f5803@mail.gmail.com> <9c3bfa1d0706200614r104b5d39gb6cea6478e6e1a8d@mail.gmail.com> <46792995.9000003@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706200655l7b129df7j25db8ae0e6c4a209@mail.gmail.com> > > Well, if one know where to look, there are plenty of sources to get the > SVG, even a version as official as possible :p i know and i did found some but i just want to have the original and official logo. and i will wait for Mairin to response here. i`m not in a rush anyway. 2007/6/20, Nicu Buculei : > > Ben Arnold wrote: > > On 20/06/07, Mark wrote: > >> Could someone add the SVG logo on the wiki there with a transparent > >> background or a png version with a transparent background. > > > > I believe that you can e-amil logo at fedoraprejct.org (or whatever the > > e-mail address is on the Logo wiki page) with a request for such a > > file then they will send it to you. This might be to protect the > > quality of fedora-derived imagery with the official logo on it. > > Or wait until Mairin read her emails, I believe she is in charge with > this... but the logo@ address is the proper channel. > > IIRC, the requirement to ask permission is to protect the trademark. > > > I, personally do not have a SVG with it, either, I just use a > > self-made crop of it! > > Well, if one know where to look, there are plenty of sources to get the > SVG, even a version as official as possible :p > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'd > like the code to be clean and effective, but as I don't know the tips > and tricks I'd like to have someone to help me with it. > > Current state is: > only window borders are drawn, so it's not much usable, and only > (un)focused normal/maximized versions are coded (the rest will be just > displayed using one of those currently). > > Thanks, > Martin > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list I'm sorry, I forgot to mention where you can download it... I put it on the wikipage [1]... and direct link is here [2]. Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Nodoka-0.0.0.1.tar.gz -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers On Wednesday 20 June 2007 07:47:48 Mark wrote: > thanx :) > at this moment it`s still just a mockup so no tarballs yet. > and why start a new topic when i didn`t even got one reply in: > "MageFedoraTheme - Fedora Theme Draft"... that theme is intended for KDE > but also for Gnome so i rather continue the discussion about my theme in > the "MageFedoraTheme - Fedora Theme Draft" thread. > > 2007/6/19, Christopher Desjardins : > > That theme is amazing! From the kmenu icon through the window borders > > to the kicker colour. I'd love to get a tarball of that if I could > > for my box locally. That theme mixed with the oxygen icons would look > > amazing! > > Terrific work. > > cheers, > > Chris > > -------- > > This thread was: "WIP - Fedora 8 theme" > > Renamed to: "MageFedoraTheme - Fedora Theme Draft" > > > > And another mockup. > > > > Changed: > > - Added a menu bar with some extra space below (example: menu bar and > > icon bar like in konqueror) > > - Added a right mouse click popup > > > > here it is: http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1186/kdebattlewip6lf8.png > > > > The mocking up end is comming closer now and i still had no name for > > this theme. > > The name for this theme is (for now) MageFedoraTheme > > > > The name explained. > > Mage = somehow i made mage out of my firstname and lastname and i keep > > using that for my scripts aswell.. (MageDB, MageForum etc.. and all > > work in progress). so that`s how i made up Mage. > > Fedora = ... what do you think > > Theme = ... nothing fancy.. just theme. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list From duffy at redhat.com Wed Jun 20 14:59:45 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:59:45 -0400 Subject: Official fedora logo in SVG? where is it? In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706200655l7b129df7j25db8ae0e6c4a209@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80706200600g6d438b8bs3a8ff4e2349f5803@mail.gmail.com> <9c3bfa1d0706200614r104b5d39gb6cea6478e6e1a8d@mail.gmail.com> <46792995.9000003@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80706200655l7b129df7j25db8ae0e6c4a209@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <467940E1.7070301@redhat.com> Mark wrote: >> >> Well, if one know where to look, there are plenty of sources to get the >> SVG, even a version as official as possible :p > > > i know and i did found some but i just want to have the original and > official logo. > and i will wait for Mairin to response here. i`m not in a rush anyway. Mark, you need to request the logo via the logo at fedoraproject.org so we can track who we've given the logo to and who has agreed to the usage agreement. I can help you if you send a formal request to the logo email address. I would prefer to not handle mailing list / personal email logo requests - it makes tracking things a lot easier if everything goes through the logo@ ticket queue. ~m From markg85 at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 15:46:26 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:46:26 +0200 Subject: Official fedora logo in SVG? where is it? In-Reply-To: <467940E1.7070301@redhat.com> References: <6e24a8e80706200600g6d438b8bs3a8ff4e2349f5803@mail.gmail.com> <9c3bfa1d0706200614r104b5d39gb6cea6478e6e1a8d@mail.gmail.com> <46792995.9000003@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80706200655l7b129df7j25db8ae0e6c4a209@mail.gmail.com> <467940E1.7070301@redhat.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706200846t3cb97b97g1cb2d7c1db7a368@mail.gmail.com> oke i will. thanx for the reply. 2007/6/20, M?ir?n Duffy : > > Mark wrote: > >> > >> Well, if one know where to look, there are plenty of sources to get the > >> SVG, even a version as official as possible :p > > > > > > i know and i did found some but i just want to have the original and > > official logo. > > and i will wait for Mairin to response here. i`m not in a rush anyway. > > Mark, you need to request the logo via the logo at fedoraproject.org so we > can track who we've given the logo to and who has agreed to the usage > agreement. I can help you if you send a formal request to the logo email > address. > > I would prefer to not handle mailing list / personal email logo requests > - it makes tracking things a lot easier if everything goes through the > logo@ ticket queue. > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jayme.ayres at unopar.br Wed Jun 20 18:01:43 2007 From: jayme.ayres at unopar.br (Jayme Ayres) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:01:43 -0300 Subject: Official fedora logo in SVG? where is it? In-Reply-To: <467940E1.7070301@redhat.com> References: <6e24a8e80706200600g6d438b8bs3a8ff4e2349f5803@mail.gmail.com> <9c3bfa1d0706200614r104b5d39gb6cea6478e6e1a8d@mail.gmail.com> <46792995.9000003@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80706200655l7b129df7j25db8ae0e6c4a209@mail.gmail.com> <467940E1.7070301@redhat.com> Message-ID: <46796B87.6030800@unopar.br> I?ve a logo, if u need I send. att. Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com M?ir?n Duffy escreveu: > Mark wrote: >>> >>> Well, if one know where to look, there are plenty of sources to get the >>> SVG, even a version as official as possible :p >> >> >> i know and i did found some but i just want to have the original and >> official logo. >> and i will wait for Mairin to response here. i`m not in a rush anyway. > > Mark, you need to request the logo via the logo at fedoraproject.org so > we can track who we've given the logo to and who has agreed to the > usage agreement. I can help you if you send a formal request to the > logo email address. > > I would prefer to not handle mailing list / personal email logo > requests - it makes tracking things a lot easier if everything goes > through the logo@ ticket queue. > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > From duffy at redhat.com Wed Jun 20 18:58:07 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:58:07 -0400 Subject: Official fedora logo in SVG? where is it? In-Reply-To: <46796B87.6030800@unopar.br> References: <6e24a8e80706200600g6d438b8bs3a8ff4e2349f5803@mail.gmail.com> <9c3bfa1d0706200614r104b5d39gb6cea6478e6e1a8d@mail.gmail.com> <46792995.9000003@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80706200655l7b129df7j25db8ae0e6c4a209@mail.gmail.com> <467940E1.7070301@redhat.com> <46796B87.6030800@unopar.br> Message-ID: <467978BF.6030706@redhat.com> Hi Jayme, Jayme Ayres wrote: > I?ve a logo, if u need I send. While it's appreciated that you'd like to help, it's not really good to redistribute the Fedora logo source artwork. This circumvents the logo at fedoraproject.org approval process Fedora has put into place to protect our logo. If you'd like to help, please refer folks who would like copies of the logo source artwork to the logo at fedoraproject.org email address. Thanks! ~m From markg85 at gmail.com Wed Jun 20 19:05:28 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:05:28 +0200 Subject: Official fedora logo in SVG? where is it? In-Reply-To: <467978BF.6030706@redhat.com> References: <6e24a8e80706200600g6d438b8bs3a8ff4e2349f5803@mail.gmail.com> <9c3bfa1d0706200614r104b5d39gb6cea6478e6e1a8d@mail.gmail.com> <46792995.9000003@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80706200655l7b129df7j25db8ae0e6c4a209@mail.gmail.com> <467940E1.7070301@redhat.com> <46796B87.6030800@unopar.br> <467978BF.6030706@redhat.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706201205t76db5d8fu9e6fceb9140a2e40@mail.gmail.com> a mail has been send to that email address. @Jayme Ayres, thanx for the offer but i would like to do this in a official way. 2007/6/20, M?ir?n Duffy : > > Hi Jayme, > > Jayme Ayres wrote: > > I?ve a logo, if u need I send. > > While it's appreciated that you'd like to help, it's not really good to > redistribute the Fedora logo source artwork. This circumvents the > logo at fedoraproject.org approval process Fedora has put into place to > protect our logo. > > If you'd like to help, please refer folks who would like copies of the > logo source artwork to the logo at fedoraproject.org email address. > > Thanks! > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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"which one is better? with ot without glow" which is for the update notifications outer glow. i personally like both options. For the notifications sets.. i firstly made Set 2. but i wanted to have a alternative set where you can choose from so i added one.. now i like the 2nd made set (Set 1 in this case) better than the set that i first made (Set 2.. yea i did the naming wrong..) so what set do you guys like most? about the fedora logo in the task bar.. that`s not the official one. i requested the official one but didn`t got it yet. as soon as i have it that logo will be placed in the taskbar instead of the (unofficial) 3d like logo. And here is the image: http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/1475/kdebattlewip7ke4.png I hope to see some comments.. 2007/6/10, Mark : > > This thread was: "WIP - Fedora 8 theme" > Renamed to: "MageFedoraTheme - Fedora Theme Draft" > > And another mockup. > > Changed: > - Added a menu bar with some extra space below (example: menu bar and icon > bar like in konqueror) > - Added a right mouse click popup > > here it is: http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1186/kdebattlewip6lf8.png > > The mocking up end is comming closer now and i still had no name for this > theme. > The name for this theme is (for now) MageFedoraTheme > > The name explained. > Mage = somehow i made mage out of my firstname and lastname and i keep > using that for my scripts aswell.. (MageDB, MageForum etc.. and all work in > progress). so that`s how i made up Mage. > Fedora = ... what do you think > Theme = ... nothing fancy.. just theme. > > > 2007/6/10, Nicolas Mailhot < nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net >: > > > > Well since everyone is dumping his preferences I've been a longtime > > supporter of the Metacity Alison theme: > > > > - based on the original bluecurve with nice big easy-to-hit flat buttons > > (not the small 3-d stuff that looks like a cheap chinese plastic gadget, > > and is difficult to target) > > - very light gradient that does not make text hard to read > > - light pleasing titlebar texture (not something you notice in > > screenshots, something you notice in everyday use) > > - colors synced with the gtk theme > > > > -- > > Nicolas Mailhot > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Seems to me that they look too much similar a thus it would make it hard to recognise which one is the focused... > things added: > - 2 different sets of update notifications > > About the notifications.. i have absolutely no idea how themable that > stuff is.. i just made something and will deal with the technical > stuff later on. but i am gonna look for information on how to theme > that thing. > Hm... I dunno as well, but I think it would not be themable to such extent... But they are really nice. I like the left ones more. > I also added a question in the image.. "which one is better? with ot > without glow" which is for the update notifications outer glow. i > personally like both options. For the notifications sets.. i firstly > made Set 2. but i wanted to have a alternative set where you can > choose from so i added one.. now i like the 2nd made set (Set 1 in > this case) better than the set that i first made (Set 2.. yea i did > the naming wrong..) so what set do you guys like most? > Hm... I suppose the one without glow is the bottom one. On my notebook display, at least against the black bg, the glow-less is better - the one with glow looks a bit "noisy" (antialiasing not enough for LCD displays). > about the fedora logo in the task bar.. that`s not the official one. i > requested the official one but didn`t got it yet. as soon as i have it > that logo will be placed in the taskbar instead of the (unofficial) 3d > like logo. > > And here is the image: > http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/1475/kdebattlewip7ke4.png > > I hope to see some comments.. > Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'd > > like the code to be clean and effective, but as I don't know the tips > > and tricks I'd like to have someone to help me with it. > > > > Current state is: > > only window borders are drawn, so it's not much usable, and only > > (un)focused normal/maximized versions are coded (the rest will be just > > displayed using one of those currently). > > I'm sorry, I forgot to mention where you can download it... I put it on > the wikipage [1]... and direct link is here [2]. This is really nice work, Martin. A couple observations: 1. The darker color for the window title bar seems the better choice because it doesn't drag the eye away from the content of the windows. 2. The thicker window borders are probably a requirement, because the thin ones don't give an appearance of actionable space for users to click and drag. -- Paul W. 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Seems to me that they > look too much similar a thus it would make it hard to recognise which > one is the focused... > I would agree with that. They do look pretty similar. Maybe a more pronounced difference in the windeco or the buttons would aid to this. > > things added: > > - 2 different sets of update notifications > > > > About the notifications.. i have absolutely no idea how themable that > > stuff is.. i just made something and will deal with the technical > > stuff later on. but i am gonna look for information on how to theme > > that thing. > > Hm... I dunno as well, but I think it would not be themable to such > extent... But they are really nice. I like the left ones more. > I like set 1 as well. > > I also added a question in the image.. "which one is better? with ot > > without glow" which is for the update notifications outer glow. i > > personally like both options. For the notifications sets.. i firstly > > made Set 2. but i wanted to have a alternative set where you can > > choose from so i added one.. now i like the 2nd made set (Set 1 in > > this case) better than the set that i first made (Set 2.. yea i did > > the naming wrong..) so what set do you guys like most? > > Hm... I suppose the one without glow is the bottom one. On my notebook > display, at least against the black bg, the glow-less is better - the > one with glow looks a bit "noisy" (antialiasing not enough for LCD > displays). I prefer the top ones with less red. > > > about the fedora logo in the task bar.. that`s not the official one. i > > requested the official one but didn`t got it yet. as soon as i have it > > that logo will be placed in the taskbar instead of the (unofficial) 3d > > like logo. > > > > And here is the image: > > http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/1475/kdebattlewip7ke4.png > > > > I hope to see some comments.. > > Martin Keep up the good work and I'd love a tarball of this when you're done ;) chris From markg85 at gmail.com Fri Jun 22 01:34:03 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 03:34:03 +0200 Subject: MageFedoraTheme - Fedora Theme Draft In-Reply-To: <200706211947.32879.lontra@localhost.localdomain> References: <6e24a8e80706100642m6bd5fdb5o69e469fa3ddc1b6b@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706211516m5cbfa57s6706e72842657fc8@mail.gmail.com> <1182464893.3080.8.camel@pc-notebook> <200706211947.32879.lontra@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706211834r3d9cc9abg36ba28d4db68dece@mail.gmail.com> hehe i will release a tarbal anyway.. i just hope that i can make the stuff working on KDE and Gnome... I prefer the top ones with less red. there isn`t red in the ones with that question ;) but what you mean is meant for security updates. the "less red" (so that`s the other one which has blue) is meant for normal updates.. you will see that window most of the time when updates are available. I would agree with that. They do look pretty similar. Maybe a more > pronounced difference in the windeco or the buttons would aid to this. i will give that part another shot 2007/6/22, Christopher David Desjardins : > > On Thursday 21 June 2007 17:28:13 Martin Sourada wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 00:16 +0200, Mark wrote: > > > Hey all, > > > > Hi, > > > > > i just made a new mockup. > > > > > > things changes: > > > - Inactive window is now about final (big changes there compared to > > > the previous mockup) > > > > Hm... I would make the difference more notable... Seems to me that they > > look too much similar a thus it would make it hard to recognise which > > one is the focused... > > > > I would agree with that. They do look pretty similar. Maybe a more > pronounced difference in the windeco or the buttons would aid to this. > > > > things added: > > > - 2 different sets of update notifications > > > > > > About the notifications.. i have absolutely no idea how themable that > > > stuff is.. i just made something and will deal with the technical > > > stuff later on. but i am gonna look for information on how to theme > > > that thing. > > > > Hm... I dunno as well, but I think it would not be themable to such > > extent... But they are really nice. I like the left ones more. > > > > I like set 1 as well. > > > > I also added a question in the image.. "which one is better? with ot > > > without glow" which is for the update notifications outer glow. i > > > personally like both options. For the notifications sets.. i firstly > > > made Set 2. but i wanted to have a alternative set where you can > > > choose from so i added one.. now i like the 2nd made set (Set 1 in > > > this case) better than the set that i first made (Set 2.. yea i did > > > the naming wrong..) so what set do you guys like most? > > > > Hm... I suppose the one without glow is the bottom one. On my notebook > > display, at least against the black bg, the glow-less is better - the > > one with glow looks a bit "noisy" (antialiasing not enough for LCD > > displays). > > I prefer the top ones with less red. > > > > > > about the fedora logo in the task bar.. that`s not the official one. i > > > requested the official one but didn`t got it yet. as soon as i have it > > > that logo will be placed in the taskbar instead of the (unofficial) 3d > > > like logo. > > > > > > And here is the image: > > > http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/1475/kdebattlewip7ke4.png > > > > > > I hope to see some comments.. > > > > Martin > > > Keep up the good work and I'd love a tarball of this when you're done ;) > chris > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please check new snapshot [1]. In addition to "Frame pieces" it draws a window title as well. I also adjusted the colours and sizing a little and done all window types and almost all window styles - I am a little unsure what the shaded style stands for... I also did some optimisations to the XML code so it is more sane now... I put the updated snapshot on the wiki [2]. Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Nodoka-0.0.0.2.tar.gz [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It's version 0.0.1 version 0.0.2 will be considered as first Nodoka Metacity stable release and blocker are any problems and dirty code... So simply said, the 0.0.1 version is first beta. Oh, and I added a short README file and decided to development it under GPLv2. If you think I have chosen badly, please let me know, I can change it ;) I would appreciate any feedback :) Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Nodoka-0.0.1.tar.gz [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MartinSourada/NodokaDraft -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I understand that graphics in F7 have a high degree of polishing and may look intimidating for a new contributor, but: - this is only round 1, the focus is on concepts, not on polishing, for that we have subsequent rounds; - we need *something* to start from; - the desire is to have somewhat simplified graphics in the next release; - this may be our *only* chance to prove ourselves as a team and establish us a player in the Fedora world and the windows of opportunity may be only a few months large. I also understand some of may not be very happy with what happened at le last release, but I believe we learned a lot from that experience and can do better this time. (sorry if I stepped on someone's toes with this reminder) [1] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes [2] - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-June/msg00039.html -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From dimitris at glezos.com Mon Jun 25 12:01:16 2007 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:01:16 +0100 Subject: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder In-Reply-To: <467FAA84.2060109@nicubunu.ro> References: <467FAA84.2060109@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <467FAE8C.2090502@glezos.com> O/H Nicu Buculei ??????: > As you may know, we have an open process [1] for submitting artwork > proposals for Fedora 8. > The *tentative* deadline for the first round [2] is approaching fast, in > one week and we don't have yet *any* formal submission. With a tight > schedule for F8 I think this date may slip, but only with a few days. > > So do not be afraid and send your proposals, Fedora needs you! > > I understand that graphics in F7 have a high degree of polishing and may > look intimidating for a new contributor [...] I wouldn't be disappointed at all if we introduced a simple and clean theme, nor if we shipped a previous proposal which was liked, like eg. Borealis. KISS. :) -d http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Jun 25 12:56:41 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:56:41 +0300 Subject: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder In-Reply-To: <467FAE8C.2090502@glezos.com> References: <467FAA84.2060109@nicubunu.ro> <467FAE8C.2090502@glezos.com> Message-ID: <467FBB89.3020705@nicubunu.ro> Dimitris Glezos wrote: > O/H Nicu Buculei ??????: >> >> I understand that graphics in F7 have a high degree of polishing and may >> look intimidating for a new contributor [...] > > I wouldn't be disappointed at all if we introduced a simple and clean theme, nor > if we shipped a previous proposal which was liked, like eg. Borealis. KISS. :) Sure, but we need to start from something - from a few formal proposals. Then we will talk about them, experiment and see where it is going. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Mon Jun 25 13:09:28 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:09:28 +0200 Subject: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder In-Reply-To: <467FBB89.3020705@nicubunu.ro> References: <467FAA84.2060109@nicubunu.ro> <467FAE8C.2090502@glezos.com> <467FBB89.3020705@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1182776968.3253.13.camel@pc-notebook> On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 14:56 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Dimitris Glezos wrote: > > O/H Nicu Buculei ??????: > >> > >> I understand that graphics in F7 have a high degree of polishing and may > >> look intimidating for a new contributor [...] > > > > I wouldn't be disappointed at all if we introduced a simple and clean theme, nor > > if we shipped a previous proposal which was liked, like eg. Borealis. KISS. :) > > Sure, but we need to start from something - from a few formal proposals. > Then we will talk about them, experiment and see where it is going. > Hm... perhaps we could make some formal requests for some of the suggestions made on the F8ThemeAbstract wiki page [1]? Is there any problem about it? Martin References [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 13:11:21 2007 From: ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:11:21 +0100 Subject: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder In-Reply-To: <467FBB89.3020705@nicubunu.ro> References: <467FAA84.2060109@nicubunu.ro> <467FAE8C.2090502@glezos.com> <467FBB89.3020705@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0706250611n5baa743bp48985c93cfcf9ec7@mail.gmail.com> On 25/06/07, Nicu Buculei wrote: > As you may know, we have an open process [1] for submitting artwork > proposals for Fedora 8. > The *tentative* deadline for the first round [2] is approaching fast, in > one week and we don't have yet *any* formal submission. With a tight > schedule for F8 I think this date may slip, but only with a few days. Sod's law that I'm on holiday abroad from 2nd - 17th July. I hope that the Monday 20th July actually means Monday 23rd instead of Friday 20th :-p On 25/06/07, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > I wouldn't be disappointed at all if we introduced a simple and clean theme, nor > if we shipped a previous proposal which was liked, like eg. Borealis. KISS. :) IIRC, I made a complete set for Borealis [1] in a vector format. I'm happy to re-submit this via a new wiki page if need be. A while ago, Marian had an idea for an abstract design. I made a wiki page [2] for idea collection along with a sketch at the bottom. I'm slightly unsure of this fitting in with simplicity idea but if the detail is kept low, I'm sure it would be fine. ./b [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/FC7Themes/Fc7ThemeProposalFedoraBorealis [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From markg85 at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 13:37:21 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:37:21 +0200 Subject: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder In-Reply-To: <9c3bfa1d0706250611n5baa743bp48985c93cfcf9ec7@mail.gmail.com> References: <467FAA84.2060109@nicubunu.ro> <467FAE8C.2090502@glezos.com> <467FBB89.3020705@nicubunu.ro> <9c3bfa1d0706250611n5baa743bp48985c93cfcf9ec7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706250637o66d59ab3w443be5fffbf6780b@mail.gmail.com> My artwork is far at this moment but i`m still wondering if making artwork will be good.. because with F7 the Redhat people decided to make the theme internal even with alot of good theme proposals. so if redhat plans to do this same trick again when all the proposals have been made than i would like to know this now because than i quit my theming efforts because they won`t be used anyway. So: can you guarantee that proposals made here actually have a chance of being used? Or: we make stuff and redhat decides to make something different? (and thereby making our stuff useless) This might seem like annoying questions but they are important for me to know. and i think this is important for everyone to know. so please a official and public (don`t pm me with it) answer. 2007/6/25, Ben Arnold : > > On 25/06/07, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > As you may know, we have an open process [1] for submitting artwork > > proposals for Fedora 8. > > The *tentative* deadline for the first round [2] is approaching fast, in > > one week and we don't have yet *any* formal submission. With a tight > > schedule for F8 I think this date may slip, but only with a few days. > > Sod's law that I'm on holiday abroad from 2nd - 17th July. > I hope that the Monday 20th July actually means Monday 23rd instead of > Friday 20th :-p > > > > On 25/06/07, Dimitris Glezos wrote: > > I wouldn't be disappointed at all if we introduced a simple and clean > theme, nor > > if we shipped a previous proposal which was liked, like eg. Borealis. > KISS. :) > > IIRC, I made a complete set for Borealis [1] in a vector format. I'm > happy to re-submit this via a new wiki page if need be. > > A while ago, Marian had an idea for an abstract design. I made a wiki > page [2] for idea collection along with a sketch at the bottom. I'm > slightly unsure of this fitting in with simplicity idea but if the > detail is kept low, I'm sure it would be fine. > > ./b > > [1] > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/FC7Themes/Fc7ThemeProposalFedoraBorealis > > [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract > > -- > ..// seawolf //.. > Ben Arnold > e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo > iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com > http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary > > fedora : artwork > GnuPG Available - ask me! > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Jun 25 14:02:24 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:02:24 +0300 Subject: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706250637o66d59ab3w443be5fffbf6780b@mail.gmail.com> References: <467FAA84.2060109@nicubunu.ro> <467FAE8C.2090502@glezos.com> <467FBB89.3020705@nicubunu.ro> <9c3bfa1d0706250611n5baa743bp48985c93cfcf9ec7@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706250637o66d59ab3w443be5fffbf6780b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <467FCAF0.3070808@nicubunu.ro> Mark wrote: > My artwork is far at this moment but i`m still wondering if making > artwork will be good.. because with F7 the Redhat people decided to make > the theme internal even with alot of good theme proposals. so if redhat > plans to do this same trick again when all the proposals have been made > than i would like to know this now because than i quit my theming > efforts because they won`t be used anyway. > > So: can you guarantee that proposals made here actually have a chance of > being used? > Or: we make stuff and redhat decides to make something different? (and > thereby making our stuff useless) I don't think *anybody* can make a guarantee, it may turn in the end all our proposals are crap or something. But keep in mind a few things: - currently Red Hat does not have any employee in charge of desktop artwork (since Diana left) and probably will not have someone for this entire release cycle (or until too late in the release cycle); - the entire talk was started by Matthias from the Red Hat Desktop Team; - we have support from the Fedora leadership: http://lwn.net/Articles/237700/ I don't think anyone can make better guarantees, but this look good enough to me. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Mon Jun 25 14:02:47 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:02:47 +0200 Subject: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706250637o66d59ab3w443be5fffbf6780b@mail.gmail.com> References: <467FAA84.2060109@nicubunu.ro> <467FAE8C.2090502@glezos.com> <467FBB89.3020705@nicubunu.ro> <9c3bfa1d0706250611n5baa743bp48985c93cfcf9ec7@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706250637o66d59ab3w443be5fffbf6780b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1182780167.3253.22.camel@pc-notebook> On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 15:37 +0200, Mark wrote: > My artwork is far at this moment but i`m still wondering if making > artwork will be good.. because with F7 the Redhat people decided to > make the theme internal even with alot of good theme proposals. so if > redhat plans to do this same trick again when all the proposals have > been made than i would like to know this now because than i quit my > theming efforts because they won`t be used anyway. > Hm... I think this discussion is about Release Dependent theme, I saw from you only mockup od KDE and that's IMHO is not considered Release Dependent. Are you making a wallpaper as well? If yes, I am eager to see it, your KDE theme is so far very nice :) > So: can you guarantee that proposals made here actually have a chance > of being used? > Or: we make stuff and redhat decides to make something different? (and > thereby making our stuff useless) > > This might seem like annoying questions but they are important for me > to know. and i think this is important for everyone to know. so please > a official and public (don`t pm me with it) answer. > I don't think they'll do this again... And even if they do, your effort wouldn't be useless. There's an ongoing effort of providing users with alternative graphics... And actually there are a lot of people using the wallpapers form the F7 theme contest. If your work is good it's never useless. 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I love it! ~m From mclasen at redhat.com Mon Jun 25 14:57:52 2007 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 10:57:52 -0400 Subject: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706250637o66d59ab3w443be5fffbf6780b@mail.gmail.com> References: <467FAA84.2060109@nicubunu.ro> <467FAE8C.2090502@glezos.com> <467FBB89.3020705@nicubunu.ro> <9c3bfa1d0706250611n5baa743bp48985c93cfcf9ec7@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706250637o66d59ab3w443be5fffbf6780b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1182783472.4364.8.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 15:37 +0200, Mark wrote: > My artwork is far at this moment but i`m still wondering if making > artwork will be good.. because with F7 the Redhat people decided to > make the theme internal even with alot of good theme proposals. so if > redhat plans to do this same trick again when all the proposals have > been made than i would like to know this now because than i quit my > theming efforts because they won`t be used anyway. > > So: can you guarantee that proposals made here actually have a chance > of being used? > Or: we make stuff and redhat decides to make something different? (and > thereby making our stuff useless) > > This might seem like annoying questions but they are important for me > to know. and i think this is important for everyone to know. so please > a official and public (don`t pm me with it) answer. Nobody will give you guarantees; but as I already explained earlier, we don't have Diana anymore, and no replacement yet. So, for better or worse, the F8 art will be as good (or bad) as the people on this list make it. From markg85 at gmail.com Mon Jun 25 15:45:27 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:45:27 +0200 Subject: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder In-Reply-To: <1182783472.4364.8.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> References: <467FAA84.2060109@nicubunu.ro> <467FAE8C.2090502@glezos.com> <467FBB89.3020705@nicubunu.ro> <9c3bfa1d0706250611n5baa743bp48985c93cfcf9ec7@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706250637o66d59ab3w443be5fffbf6780b@mail.gmail.com> <1182783472.4364.8.camel@dhcp83-186.boston.redhat.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706250845h4b15a3efh54f2dedae9886379@mail.gmail.com> > > Hm... I think this discussion is about Release Dependent theme, I saw > from you only mockup od KDE and that's IMHO is not considered Release > Dependent. Are you making a wallpaper as well? If yes, I am eager to see > it, your KDE theme is so far very nice :) Well the mockup is intended for KDE but gnome can use the same things and if the answer here was negative for me than those mockups would be my final and latest attempt. but the answers are what i had expected and a little less than in hoped for but good enough to continue. For a wallpaper.. i haven't done any but i would like to make one. i'm gonna attempt to make a wallpaper that looks like this one: http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=freebsdwallpaperbg5.png - we have support from the Fedora leadership: > http://lwn.net/Articles/237700/ that's the one that did it for me. So, for better or > worse, the F8 art will be as good (or bad) as the people on this list > make it. none of the proposals so far are bad (I've seen 3). 2007/6/25, Matthias Clasen : > > On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 15:37 +0200, Mark wrote: > > My artwork is far at this moment but i`m still wondering if making > > artwork will be good.. because with F7 the Redhat people decided to > > make the theme internal even with alot of good theme proposals. so if > > redhat plans to do this same trick again when all the proposals have > > been made than i would like to know this now because than i quit my > > theming efforts because they won`t be used anyway. > > > > So: can you guarantee that proposals made here actually have a chance > > of being used? > > Or: we make stuff and redhat decides to make something different? 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I'm just observing at the moment, as I am interested in doing graphic stuff for linux, but don't know where I could start. On 6/25/07, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > > I am skipping the first round because there are some fresh ideas that > need to be displayed. Just waiting for the second to get some initial > draft aroun. > > Luya > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From renegade at bresnan.net Tue Jun 26 02:40:54 2007 From: renegade at bresnan.net (KE7NPF) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:40:54 -0600 Subject: Fedora-Themed Laptop Skin? Message-ID: <1182825654.7795.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hey, Bought a brand-new laptop about 3 months ago, got rid of the scourge known as Vista and run Fedora on it exclusively. I LOVE IT!!! I'm constantly telling people about it and have already converted my Mom and two family friends to Fedora, too. But I want more! I travel a lot on business and what I'd really like is a snazzy, sharp-looking Fedora-Themed Laptop skin that I can put on my computer so people in airports/cafes/restaurants etc. will see it and start asking questions. I haven't been able to find one, and I don't think anything I'd come up with would be as cool or as nice as what you guys would be able to cook up. I have a few suggestions, though: It should come in various sizes, to cover everything from the tiny Sony Vaio's up to the humongous widescreen laptops of today; it should also be generic, i.e. not specifically associated or branded with any particular Fedora release. Something with the Bubbles or even the DNA would be cool... Let me know what you think of this idea, and if you come up with something, tell me where I can get it! Thanks, and keep the good stuff coming! Warren R. 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I haven't been able to find one, and I don't think anything I'd > come up with would be as cool or as nice as what you guys would be able to > cook up. I have a few suggestions, though: It should come in various sizes, > to cover everything from the tiny Sony Vaio's up to the humongous widescreen > laptops of today; it should also be generic, i.e. not specifically > associated or branded with any particular Fedora release. Something with > the Bubbles or even the DNA would be cool... > Let me know what you think of this idea, and if you come up with > something, tell me where I can get it! > > Thanks, and keep the good stuff coming! > > Warren R. Appel > KE7NPF > Casper, WY > Sounds good, by skin do you mean like a vinyl decal that you stick to the outsides of the laptop. Also, would it cover the entire laptop (closed), or just the top. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Jun 26 05:50:01 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:50:01 +0300 Subject: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder In-Reply-To: <9b437e950706252047s63142473n97afd7bb04518faa@mail.gmail.com> References: <467FAA84.2060109@nicubunu.ro> <46807076.6020204@thefinalzone.com> <9b437e950706252047s63142473n97afd7bb04518faa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4680A909.1060703@nicubunu.ro> Michael Beckwith wrote: > I'm new to newsgroups and such, so hopefully this goes out to everyone. OK and welcome! This is a particular discussion thread about artwork (wallpapers, splash screens) which will be included in Fedora 8, so if you want to talk about something else is better to ask in a new message, not in a reply to something not related, this way you have a chance to be better heard. > I'm just observing at the moment, as I am interested in doing graphic > stuff for linux, but don't know where I could start. Sure, this project is a very good place to start. Just say what you are good at, what you like to do or what you want to learn and I am positive we will have a need and a place for it, we have a lot of open work: desktop graphics (wallpapers), desktop themes, icons, web graphics, print stuff, tutorials, even mascots and many other things I don't remember right now. A good place to start is http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork but there are many other things. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Jun 26 06:12:51 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:12:51 +0300 Subject: Fedora-Themed Laptop Skin? In-Reply-To: References: <1182825654.7795.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4680AE63.8010003@nicubunu.ro> Anand Capur wrote: > On 6/25/07, *KE7NPF* > > Bought a brand-new laptop about 3 months ago, got rid of the scourge > known as Vista and run Fedora on it exclusively. I LOVE IT!!! I'm > constantly telling people about it and have already converted my Mom > and two family friends to Fedora, too. But I want more! > I travel a lot on business and what I'd really like is a snazzy, > sharp-looking Fedora-Themed Laptop skin that I can put on my > computer so people in airports/cafes/restaurants etc. > > Sounds good, by skin do you mean like a vinyl decal that you stick to > the outsides of the laptop. Also, would it cover the entire laptop > (closed), or just the top. Is there any place, preferably an online shop, who sell such things? You know, something like CafePress or Lulu, so we can leverage some existing knowledge. I don't own a laptop neither plan to buy one on the near future (the old story, the hardware is underpowered, does not support Linux well and the prices are high) but I imagine if we had a kind of template we can easily make graphics for it. In the meantime, here are a few notebook stickers I made some time ago (but don't know where you can print them): http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2007/03/notebook-stickers.html -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From blitz00 at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 00:45:12 2007 From: blitz00 at gmail.com (Stefan S.) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 03:45:12 +0300 Subject: Fedora's kde custom rubber band (the selection box) Message-ID: <200706270345.13336.blitz00@gmail.com> Hi, On Fedora 7 the selection box in kde is blue (just like in gnome). I'm _very_ curios how is this custom rubber band implemented? I've looked in kdelibs, kdebase, kdeartwork, kde-settings, redhat-artwork SRPMs (this is where I expected to find a patch) and couldn't find any patch related to rubber band. Could someone tell me how and where is this done? -- Regards, blitz From rdieter at math.unl.edu Wed Jun 27 11:40:58 2007 From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 06:40:58 -0500 Subject: Fedora's kde custom rubber band (the selection box) References: <200706270345.13336.blitz00@gmail.com> Message-ID: Stefan S. wrote: > On Fedora 7 the selection box in kde is blue (just like in gnome). I'm > _very_ curios how is this custom rubber band implemented? I've looked > in kdelibs, kdebase, kdeartwork, kde-settings, redhat-artwork SRPMs > (this is where I expected to find a patch) and couldn't find any patch > related to rubber band. Could someone tell me how and where is this > done? Not sure exactly to what you refer, but I'm going to guess you're refering to the color scheme settings, Kcontrol -> Appearance & Themes -> Colors (please correct me if I'm wrong), and these, as well as most, defaults are in kde-settings. -- Rex From blitz00 at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 14:58:56 2007 From: blitz00 at gmail.com (Stefan S.) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:58:56 +0300 Subject: Fedora's kde custom rubber band (the selection box) In-Reply-To: References: <200706270345.13336.blitz00@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200706271758.57290.blitz00@gmail.com> On Wednesday 27 June 2007 14:40:58 Rex Dieter wrote: > Stefan S. wrote: > > On Fedora 7 the selection box in kde is blue (just like in gnome). > > I'm _very_ curios how is this custom rubber band implemented? I've > > looked in kdelibs, kdebase, kdeartwork, kde-settings, > > redhat-artwork SRPMs (this is where I expected to find a patch) and > > couldn't find any patch related to rubber band. Could someone tell > > me how and where is this done? > > Not sure exactly to what you refer, but I'm going to guess you're > refering to the color scheme settings, > Kcontrol -> Appearance & Themes -> Colors > (please correct me if I'm wrong), and these, as well as most, > defaults are in kde-settings. I'm referring to this: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=16962&file1=16962-1.png&file2=16962-2.png&file3=16962-3.png&name=Improving+KDE&PHPSESSID=fd4dea03f73fe0aa39ec671d58204e2a Look in the upper-left corner. That's the selection box (rubber band). You can't change it's color from Kcontrol. (at least not on a vanilla kde) Here (http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=16962) you can find a patch which among other things add a modern semi-transparent rubber band to kde. What I wanted to know is how Fedora does this? I couldn't find any patch in those srpms. -- Regards, blitz From duffy at redhat.com Wed Jun 27 15:05:42 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=ED=ADn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:05:42 -0400 Subject: Fedora's kde custom rubber band (the selection box) In-Reply-To: <200706271758.57290.blitz00@gmail.com> References: <200706270345.13336.blitz00@gmail.com> <200706271758.57290.blitz00@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46827CC6.3050401@redhat.com> Stefan S. wrote: > Here (http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=16962) you can > find a patch which among other things add a modern semi-transparent > rubber band to kde. What I wanted to know is how Fedora does this? I > couldn't find any patch in those srpms. Maybe it's a patch to X? The rubber band looks the same in GNOME as in that screenshot of KDE. ~m From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Wed Jun 27 15:10:00 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:10:00 +0200 Subject: Nodoka Theme - Metacity Development In-Reply-To: <1182718430.3253.8.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1182348038.3263.10.camel@pc-notebook> <1182349624.3263.12.camel@pc-notebook> <1182471870.3449.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1182628672.3080.29.camel@pc-notebook> <1182718430.3253.8.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1182957000.3253.42.camel@pc-notebook> No bugs found so far, I experienced no problems with using it, so I adjusted some parameters made the code clean and "released" first stable release: 0.0.2 [1]. Hope you'll enjoy it. I also made a rpm [2], though quickly so the spec is not very good, but works all right. Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://feannatar.hostuju.cz/fedora/downloads/nodoka-0.0.2.tar.gz [2] http://feannatar.hostuju.cz/fedora/files/FC7/i386/nodoka-0.0.2-1.fc7.noarch.rpm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 15:25:11 2007 From: ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:25:11 +0100 Subject: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder In-Reply-To: <467FD2C0.2030207@redhat.com> References: <467FAA84.2060109@nicubunu.ro> <467FAE8C.2090502@glezos.com> <467FBB89.3020705@nicubunu.ro> <9c3bfa1d0706250611n5baa743bp48985c93cfcf9ec7@mail.gmail.com> <467FD2C0.2030207@redhat.com> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0706270825w4dbb6f71ue891c78a098a4a85@mail.gmail.com> On 25/06/07, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Ah, that is your sketch? I love it! Yep, from a photo of a A5 paper as my scanner broke :) I've quickly done a digital version whilst at college and uploaded it to the wiki [1] along with a PNG export to show how it should look [2] - I had to use Illustrator and saved as SVG, don't know if it will all be perfect, you see. I had a couple of hours of standing still, looking pretty [3] but I didn't have my sketch with me, nor an internet connection so I had to do it from memory. Close enough, though. The background is different (suggestion from a friend) and I've no giant circles (couldn't quite remember them) but the essence of boxes, lines etc. is there. ./b 1 - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract 2 - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=LinesAndCircles1a.png 3 - http://www.last.fm/music/The+Wreckers/Stand+Still%2C+Look+Pretty -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From rdieter at math.unl.edu Wed Jun 27 16:15:35 2007 From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:15:35 -0500 Subject: Fedora's kde custom rubber band (the selection box) References: <200706270345.13336.blitz00@gmail.com> <200706271758.57290.blitz00@gmail.com> Message-ID: Stefan S. wrote: > On Wednesday 27 June 2007 14:40:58 Rex Dieter wrote: >> Stefan S. wrote: >> > On Fedora 7 the selection box in kde is blue (just like in gnome). > I'm referring to this: > http://www.kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=16962&file1=16962-1.png&file2=16962-2.png&file3=16962-3.png&name=Improving+KDE&PHPSESSID=fd4dea03f73fe0aa39ec671d58204e2a > Look in the upper-left corner. That's the selection box (rubber band). > > You can't change it's color from Kcontrol. (at least not on a vanilla > kde) > > Here (http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=16962) you can > find a patch which among other things add a modern semi-transparent > rubber band to kde. What I wanted to know is how Fedora does this? I > couldn't find any patch in those srpms. Thanks for the clarification. afaik, Fedora doesn't patch this, nor is the selection box blue (it isn't for me). -- Rex From blitz00 at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 16:48:24 2007 From: blitz00 at gmail.com (Stefan S.) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:48:24 +0300 Subject: Fedora's kde custom rubber band (the selection box) In-Reply-To: <46827CC6.3050401@redhat.com> References: <200706270345.13336.blitz00@gmail.com> <200706271758.57290.blitz00@gmail.com> <46827CC6.3050401@redhat.com> Message-ID: <200706271948.27186.blitz00@gmail.com> On Wednesday 27 June 2007 18:05:42 M?ir??n Duffy wrote: > Stefan S. wrote: > > Here (http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=16962) you > > can find a patch which among other things add a modern > > semi-transparent rubber band to kde. What I wanted to know is how > > Fedora does this? I couldn't find any patch in those srpms. > > Maybe it's a patch to X? The rubber band looks the same in GNOME as > in that screenshot of KDE. > > ~m > Yes, the rubber band is the same as in Gnome as in Kde. But the rubber band looked in like that in Gnome since a long time ago. The rubber band in Fedora's kde looks like that since fedora 7 afaik. I doubt it's a patch to X but I'll check the srpms for any patch nevertheless. Thanks. -- Regards, blitz From blitz00 at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 16:49:29 2007 From: blitz00 at gmail.com (Stefan S.) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:49:29 +0300 Subject: Fedora's kde custom rubber band (the selection box) In-Reply-To: References: <200706270345.13336.blitz00@gmail.com> <200706271758.57290.blitz00@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200706271949.29827.blitz00@gmail.com> On Wednesday 27 June 2007 19:15:35 Rex Dieter wrote: > Stefan S. wrote: > > On Wednesday 27 June 2007 14:40:58 Rex Dieter wrote: > >> Stefan S. wrote: > >> > On Fedora 7 the selection box in kde is blue (just like in > >> > gnome). > > > > I'm referring to this: > > http://www.kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=16962&file1= >16962-1.png&file2=16962-2.png&file3=16962-3.png&name=Improving+KDE&PHP >SESSID=fd4dea03f73fe0aa39ec671d58204e2a > > > Look in the upper-left corner. That's the selection box (rubber > > band). > > > > You can't change it's color from Kcontrol. (at least not on a > > vanilla kde) > > > > Here (http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=16962) you > > can find a patch which among other things add a modern > > semi-transparent rubber band to kde. What I wanted to know is how > > Fedora does this? I couldn't find any patch in those srpms. > > Thanks for the clarification. > > afaik, Fedora doesn't patch this, nor is the selection box blue (it > isn't for me). > > -- Rex Well I saw this on a default fedora (7) kde install. The rubber band looked like the one from gnome and it was blue :).; -- Regards, blitz From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Wed Jun 27 16:56:42 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:56:42 +0200 Subject: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder In-Reply-To: <9c3bfa1d0706270825w4dbb6f71ue891c78a098a4a85@mail.gmail.com> References: <467FAA84.2060109@nicubunu.ro> <467FAE8C.2090502@glezos.com> <467FBB89.3020705@nicubunu.ro> <9c3bfa1d0706250611n5baa743bp48985c93cfcf9ec7@mail.gmail.com> <467FD2C0.2030207@redhat.com> <9c3bfa1d0706270825w4dbb6f71ue891c78a098a4a85@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1182963402.3253.47.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2007-06-27 at 17:25 +0200, Ben Arnold wrote: > Yep, from a photo of a A5 paper as my scanner broke :) > > I've quickly done a digital version whilst at college and uploaded it > to the wiki [1] along with a PNG export to show how it should look [2] > - I had to use Illustrator and saved as SVG, don't know if it will all > be perfect, you see. > Hm... it's nice, but IMHO it's too much detailed... I would wash the details out, so that icons will be easily distinguishable from the wallpaper. > I had a couple of hours of standing still, looking pretty [3] but I > didn't have my sketch with me, nor an internet connection so I had to > do it from memory. Close enough, though. The background is different > (suggestion from a friend) and I've no giant circles (couldn't quite > remember them) but the essence of boxes, lines etc. is there. > > ./b > > 1 - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract > 2 - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=LinesAndCircles1a.png > 3 - http://www.last.fm/music/The+Wreckers/Stand+Still%2C+Look+Pretty > Your paper sketch inspired me... So I quickly drawn in Inkscape an idea of what I'd like... It's not very nice IMHO but seems good for wallpaper if polished... I exported 16:10 png [1] and saved 4:3 svg [2] and put both on the wiki. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com Wed Jun 27 17:03:06 2007 From: ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:03:06 +0100 Subject: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder In-Reply-To: <1182963402.3253.47.camel@pc-notebook> References: <467FAA84.2060109@nicubunu.ro> <467FAE8C.2090502@glezos.com> <467FBB89.3020705@nicubunu.ro> <9c3bfa1d0706250611n5baa743bp48985c93cfcf9ec7@mail.gmail.com> <467FD2C0.2030207@redhat.com> <9c3bfa1d0706270825w4dbb6f71ue891c78a098a4a85@mail.gmail.com> <1182963402.3253.47.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0706271003i2ab76fcg1785ffbae5499ddf@mail.gmail.com> On 27/06/07, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Wed, 2007-06-27 at 17:25 +0200, Ben Arnold wrote: > Hm... it's nice, but IMHO it's too much detailed... I would wash the > details out, so that icons will be easily distinguishable from the > wallpaper. Sure, it is quite detailed. Some of the insirational wp's I've seen recently are busy which is probably why. > Your paper sketch inspired me... So I quickly drawn in Inkscape an idea > of what I'd like... It's not very nice IMHO but seems good for wallpaper > if polished... I exported 16:10 png [1] and saved 4:3 svg [2] and put > both on the wiki. It's looking good, reminds me of the Mac Aqua one. I'll have another play soon. Thanks for your input :) ./b > references: > [1] > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=SimplyAbstract1.png > [2] > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=SimplyAbstract1.svg > [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8ThemeAbstract -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Wed Jun 27 17:05:55 2007 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:05:55 +0200 Subject: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder In-Reply-To: <1182963402.3253.47.camel@pc-notebook> References: <467FAA84.2060109@nicubunu.ro> <467FAE8C.2090502@glezos.com> <467FBB89.3020705@nicubunu.ro> <9c3bfa1d0706250611n5baa743bp48985c93cfcf9ec7@mail.gmail.com> <467FD2C0.2030207@redhat.com> <9c3bfa1d0706270825w4dbb6f71ue891c78a098a4a85@mail.gmail.com> <1182963402.3253.47.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1182963956.19160.2.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Le mercredi 27 juin 2007 ? 18:56 +0200, Martin Sourada a ?crit : > Your paper sketch inspired me... So I quickly drawn in Inkscape an idea > of what I'd like... That's funny the sketch reminded me of celtic/high middle age metalwork, and you took it in another direction entirely. IMHO your idea is much too blue, and whats worse the same blue as previous fedora wallpapers. 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So I quickly drawn in Inkscape an idea > > of what I'd like... > > That's funny the sketch reminded me of celtic/high middle age metalwork, > and you took it in another direction entirely. IMHO your idea is much > too blue, and whats worse the same blue as previous fedora wallpapers. > If we have to keep monochrome at least try to change the blue! > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Hm... it could be because I like this very kind of blue... I didn't want it to have the same blue like the previous fedoras, but it seems as I was choosing the colour with colour picker that I have chosen it... But as I said, it's more an idea than a wallpaper... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From duffy at redhat.com Thu Jun 28 03:06:52 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrcKtbiBEdWZmeQ==?=) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:06:52 -0400 Subject: fedora 8 artwork - deadline reminder In-Reply-To: <467FAA84.2060109@nicubunu.ro> References: <467FAA84.2060109@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <468325CC.50403@redhat.com> Nicu Buculei wrote: > As you may know, we have an open process [1] for submitting artwork > proposals for Fedora 8. Thank you Nicu for reminding us about the deadlines and driving this forward! I have been hesitant to start really driving this because I was hoping I could get you all a more firm answer on whether or not the artwork would definitely be considered as the default theme. Since I have not been able to do that, and we are quickly running out of time, here is the one thing I can promise you: I will definitely find a way to package and make easily installable at least some of the artwork we come up with if it isn't considered for the default artwork. Let's just focus on coming up with the best theme we can. > The *tentative* deadline for the first round [2] is approaching fast, in > one week and we don't have yet *any* formal submission. With a tight > schedule for F8 I think this date may slip, but only with a few days. I've slipped the schedule a bit: I added revised dates and the full set of Art Team milestones for F8 to the wiki page Nicu set up earlier: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes So the new deadline for the first round, which is just are the concept proposals, is Wednesday, July 11th. > So do not be afraid and send your proposals, Fedora needs you! +1 Also, if there was a proposal from the Fedora 7 process that didn't make it that you liked, feel free to propose it for F8. > I also understand some of may not be very happy with what happened at le > last release, but I believe we learned a lot from that experience and > can do better this time. Yep, let's focus on coming up with the best artwork we can and blow everyone away with it. :) ~m From duffy at redhat.com Thu Jun 28 04:47:38 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=ED=ADn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 00:47:38 -0400 Subject: [F8 Theme Proposal] Fedora Infinity Message-ID: <46833D6A.2070705@redhat.com> Hi folks, Here's a theme concept I've been mulling overly for the past few weeks. The slogan for it could be: "Fedora: Infinite Boundaries" Freedom, community, and infinity are the three basic concepts that are represented in the Fedora logo. The basic concept for this theme is that Fedora, as the leading Linux distro, is always pushing the boundaries of technology. Because we're always pushing forward, we're always glimpsing into the infinite. See the full proposal at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes/Infinity ~m From ivazqueznet at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 05:08:59 2007 From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:08:59 -0400 Subject: [F8 Theme Proposal] Fedora Infinity In-Reply-To: <46833D6A.2070705@redhat.com> References: <46833D6A.2070705@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1183007339.3833.2.camel@ignacio.lan> On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 00:47 -0400, M?ir??n Duffy wrote: > See the full proposal at: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes/Infinity I like the idea, but you're going to have to be careful with the specific imagery. I looked at that page, and vertigo kicked in as soon as I saw the first image there. I'm hardly alone in feeling that way, so images like that are best avoided. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From duffy at redhat.com Thu Jun 28 05:15:18 2007 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrcKtbiBEdWZmeQ==?=) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:15:18 -0400 Subject: [F8 Theme Proposal] Fedora Infinity In-Reply-To: <1183007339.3833.2.camel@ignacio.lan> References: <46833D6A.2070705@redhat.com> <1183007339.3833.2.camel@ignacio.lan> Message-ID: <468343E6.9010904@redhat.com> Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams wrote: > On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 00:47 -0400, M?ir??n Duffy wrote: >> See the full proposal at: >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes/Infinity > > I like the idea, but you're going to have to be careful with the > specific imagery. I looked at that page, and vertigo kicked in as soon > as I saw the first image there. I'm hardly alone in feeling that way, so > images like that are best avoided. Sure, a sharp perspective is only one of the ideas there for representing the idea. The rendering would have to be done carefully if that approach was taken. The ocean horizon pictures should not have that effect, for an example of a different approach suggested there. ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Jun 28 06:22:47 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:22:47 +0300 Subject: [F8 Theme Proposal] Fedora Infinity In-Reply-To: <46833D6A.2070705@redhat.com> References: <46833D6A.2070705@redhat.com> Message-ID: <468353B7.1080009@nicubunu.ro> M?ir??n Duffy wrote: > The slogan for it could be: "Fedora: Infinite Boundaries" > > Freedom, community, and infinity are the three basic concepts that are > represented in the Fedora logo. The basic concept for this theme is that > Fedora, as the leading Linux distro, is always pushing the boundaries of > technology. Because we're always pushing forward, we're always glimpsing > into the infinite. > > See the full proposal at: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes/Infinity I'll have to think more about it and maybe experiment with some graphics for more constructive feedback, but here are a few quick thoughts. I like the idea, "Infinite Boundaries" is a good concept. The "Perspective" concept is the one I like the most. I can't decide if I like better the structures (they are human-made, just like Fedora and at the same time they aspire to Infinity) or if I like better the trees (as nature is always refreshing and put us in touch with our humanity). The "Ocean" concept is something "tried and true", you can't go wrong with a beautiful ocean picture. But at the same time, this is an over-used concept, so I think I would prefer something more original. Maybe we can find an original take of the "ocean" concept? The shore line saying something? Or the waves with a shape saying something? The "Repetition" concept is intriguing, it may give us some interesting results, but also the images here are the most busy, loaded with small details, which is not good for a background. On a sideline: probably some such repetitive graphics will *not* work in certain places (Anaconda banner). But is hard to argue about repetition by itself, some kind of repetition is found in the tree photo from "Perspective" and I like that. Your intention is to have those as photos, as vector or as photo manipulations? (you linked to a few photo manipulations on flickr) About Ignacio's complaint about vertigo: I think it can be avoided by careful choice in colors, without very contrasting areas, but we have to try. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From mola.mp at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 09:07:46 2007 From: mola.mp at gmail.com (Mola Pahnadayan) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:37:46 +0330 Subject: two backgrounds Message-ID: <46837A62.2000605@gmail.com> Hi all http://mola.c100c.com/index.php/photos/album/4/photo/31.html http://mola.c100c.com/index.php/photos/album/4/photo/32.html --------------- My fedora Album : http://mola.c100c.com/index.php/photos/album/4.html From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Thu Jun 28 09:17:49 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:17:49 +0200 Subject: two backgrounds In-Reply-To: <46837A62.2000605@gmail.com> References: <46837A62.2000605@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1183022269.3253.67.camel@pc-notebook> On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 11:07 +0200, Mola Pahnadayan wrote: > Hi all > > http://mola.c100c.com/index.php/photos/album/4/photo/31.html > http://mola.c100c.com/index.php/photos/album/4/photo/32.html > > --------------- > My fedora Album : http://mola.c100c.com/index.php/photos/album/4.html > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Hi, they're great! I like them both very much, but the first is probably better, since it has is less detail... I think you should do a formal theme proposal, they're really great! Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 11:40:51 2007 From: ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:40:51 +0100 Subject: two backgrounds In-Reply-To: <1183022269.3253.67.camel@pc-notebook> References: <46837A62.2000605@gmail.com> <1183022269.3253.67.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0706280440u1e71c481w11403f6e6ff13dac@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 11:07 +0200, Mola Pahnadayan wrote: > http://mola.c100c.com/index.php/photos/album/4/photo/31.html > http://mola.c100c.com/index.php/photos/album/4/photo/32.html Looks good, I like the fish in the last one but I think the background of the first is in a better tone. On 28/06/07, Martin Sourada wrote: > Hi, > I think you should do a formal > theme proposal, they're really great! Somewhat similar to the first Borealis in colour, I feel but nevertheless worth a go! -- ..// seawolf //.. Ben Arnold e-mail / msn / icq / yahoo iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary fedora core : artwork GnuPG Available - ask me! From anandcomputerphreak at gmail.com Thu Jun 28 22:05:20 2007 From: anandcomputerphreak at gmail.com (Anand Capur) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:05:20 -0400 Subject: Laptop Skins Message-ID: Do we wanna do a laptop skin? I can get them for $10/skin with a minimum of 10 skins + around $12 for shipping. It's a 15x12 skin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Jun 29 06:00:51 2007 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 09:00:51 +0300 Subject: Laptop Skins In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4684A013.9050802@nicubunu.ro> Anand Capur wrote: > Do we wanna do a laptop skin? I can get them for $10/skin with a minimum > of 10 skins + around $12 for shipping. It's a 15x12 skin I don't think we want to make a *physical* laptop skin and sell/give for free them, but we as the Art project may want to make a *template* (or more) and let users/enthusiasts/ambassadors buy for themselves from a 3-rd party using that template. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From zytemp at zianet.com Fri Jun 29 20:03:36 2007 From: zytemp at zianet.com (Danial) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:03:36 -0600 Subject: Random ideas Message-ID: <46856598.7080708@zianet.com> Hello all, Sorry for not posting earlier, and for the lack of a proper introduction. I've been a bit busy. However, here are a few random ideas. (for screen art) Please feel quite free to unload on them with both barrels. http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showpost.php?p=819643&postcount=20 /(I am aware the logo should not be altered in the fashion represented in a couple of these examples. Seemed a shame to jettison the whole idea because of it, though.) / I haven't yet gone through all the other hyjinks of setting up Wiki access and keys and pulling down the agreement and such. Probably won't unless anything proves interesting enough to you here at the art-list community to warrant it. Thanks for looking, and for all the advice you care to give. Dan From mola.mp at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 20:14:55 2007 From: mola.mp at gmail.com (Mola Pahnadayan) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:44:55 +0330 Subject: add new art-work for Fedora 8 Message-ID: <4685683F.8040900@gmail.com> hi all :) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F8theme-moon#preview From markg85 at gmail.com Sat Jun 30 12:34:41 2007 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 14:34:41 +0200 Subject: add new art-work for Fedora 8 In-Reply-To: <4685683F.8040900@gmail.com> References: <4685683F.8040900@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80706300534s7d64cf1cq39b389cd395577c8@mail.gmail.com> the start looks good!! the wallpaper has some odd things in the water.. it's ending to sudden (don't know how to say it) other than that it looks good 2007/6/29, Mola Pahnadayan : > hi all :) > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F8theme-moon#preview > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > From martin.sourada at seznam.cz Sat Jun 30 14:15:12 2007 From: martin.sourada at seznam.cz (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:15:12 +0200 Subject: add new art-work for Fedora 8 In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80706300534s7d64cf1cq39b389cd395577c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <4685683F.8040900@gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706300534s7d64cf1cq39b389cd395577c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1183212912.3484.7.camel@pc-notebook> On Sat, 2007-06-30 at 14:34 +0200, Mark wrote: > the start looks good!! > the wallpaper has some odd things in the water.. > it's ending to sudden (don't know how to say it) other than that it looks good > hm... to me that something looks like waves... and I like that wallpaper very much, but calm ocean probably would be better... And I would probably remove the fedora logo... in certified standard look it would not look good and the 3D look is AFAIK not acceptable (even though nice)... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From gerold at lugd.org Sat Jun 30 15:17:24 2007 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:17:24 +0200 Subject: add new art-work for Fedora 8 In-Reply-To: <1183212912.3484.7.camel@pc-notebook> References: <4685683F.8040900@gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706300534s7d64cf1cq39b389cd395577c8@mail.gmail.com> <1183212912.3484.7.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1183216644.3806.1.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> Hi all, only a question ... Why a "moon-theme" for F8? F7 is named as "Moonshine" .... maybe we found a "name" for F8 and than create the themes?! Regards Gerold Am Samstag, den 30.06.2007, 16:15 +0200 schrieb Martin Sourada: > On Sat, 2007-06-30 at 14:34 +0200, Mark wrote: > > the start looks good!! > > the wallpaper has some odd things in the water.. > > it's ending to sudden (don't know how to say it) other than that it looks good > > > > hm... to me that something looks like waves... and I like that wallpaper > very much, but calm ocean probably would be better... And I would > probably remove the fedora logo... in certified standard look it would > not look good and the 3D look is AFAIK not acceptable (even though > nice)... > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Gerold Kassube -Vorstandsvorsitzender- Linux Usergroup L?rrach e.V. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sat Jun 30 23:28:16 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 04:58:16 +0530 Subject: add new art-work for Fedora 8 In-Reply-To: <1183216644.3806.1.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> References: <4685683F.8040900@gmail.com> <6e24a8e80706300534s7d64cf1cq39b389cd395577c8@mail.gmail.com> <1183212912.3484.7.camel@pc-notebook> <1183216644.3806.1.camel@Amilo-GK.homenet.local> Message-ID: <4686E710.4090305@fedoraproject.org> Gerold Kassube wrote: > Hi all, > > only a question ... > Why a "moon-theme" for F8? > F7 is named as "Moonshine" .... > > maybe we found a "name" for F8 and than create the themes?! > We wouldn't have time after the name is decided. It is pretty much done in the last week or so. Rahul