shutdown compared ubuntu vs fedora

[Andreas Nilsson]

Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Hi. I started a thread on fedora-desktop mailing list and they
> suggested you also get involved you I joined this list also. Here are
> some of the key points from thread going on fedora-desktop mailing
> list.
>
> Please look at the video:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWuZvOAAE9c
>
> Matthias Clasen:
>
>> The logout dialog is one of the best-hated derivations from upstream
>> that you can find in Ubuntu.
>
> Hated by whom? And why? Can you explain a bit?
Hi Valent!
Funny thing is that some people have asked the Ubuntu dialog to be 
replaced by the one used in SLED 10 SP1. :) [1]

Sorry, but the current logout/shutdown/whatever dialog in Ubuntu is 
quite bad and mostly just a copy of the one used in WinXP, but with some 
more crack added. These actions can and must be designed in a better 
way, putting some shiny graphics there won't do much help.

Some interesting reading on the subject can be found by Joel [2], Moishe 
[3] and Arno [4]

Regarding the symbols used in the Ubuntu I find most, if not all of them 
a bit weird. The button used for hibernate looks the same as the one I 
press when I start my Dell laptop in the morning. Ubuntu's sleep symbol 
looks the same, but use another color.
I therefore find it a bit confusing when the words and symbols used 
conflict. What do I trust, the symbol or the verb?


1. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/50209
2. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000356.html
3. http://moishelettvin.blogspot.com/2006/11/windows-shutdown-crapfest.html
4. http://arno.org/blog/2006/11/design-of-mac-os-x-shutdown-feature.html

- Andreas