shiny desktop, anyone?

Valent Turkovic valent.turkovic at
Mon May 28 21:16:49 UTC 2007

On 5/28/07, Steve Hill <steve at> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2007, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > I can only share one comment of my apple osx friend who was an ex
> > windows user after installing Fedora 6:
> >
> > "This looks like windows 98."
> Of course then you showed him Beryl, right? :)

No, he removed it before I could do any customization to it...

And after I showed him my desktop that was already too late, he was
not interested too much because his own experience was too blend.

> That said, I was under the impression that an aweful lot of Windows people
> switch XP back to the "classic interface" - i.e. something that looks just
> like Win98?
> I saw Vista with Aero for the first time a couple of weeks ago - maybe
> I've just been spoilt by Beryl, but my first thought was "It's just XP but
> with transparent bits and slightly different window decoration".  I've not
> yet worked out why people are raving about Aero, it just doesn't seem
> anything special to me.

People are't raving about it - it is just a little more polished -
just what fedora 7 or 8 or 9 needs :) Why is every fedora the same -
theme wise? Each fedora has great artwork but the theme says the
same... that is just laziness :) or lack of insight... there should be
gnome theme that corresponds with the artwork IMHO. At lest a little

Now F7 looks so Fedora Core 3 like :) not to make the same comparison
my friend did with windows because I don't use them.

> > And when I looked it from his perspective I saw he was right. Don't
> > get me wrong I love Fedora theme... but when windows looks like osx I
> > think Fedora needs also a little polish to make it shine...
> I consider the default Fedora settings to be quite plain and basic - they
> get the job done but they don't make you go "Ooooooh".  The first thing I
> do with my Fedora machines when they get installed is switch window
> manager and copy my customised settings onto the system.  However, that's
> the power of Linux - you _can_ customise it, and what's right for one
> person isn't right for another.

you can customize windows and osx, and you can argue which is more
that is not the point. the point is in default theme.

> There is a limit to how far the defaults can go though - for example,
> starting Compiz or Beryl by default would certainly make things shiny, but
> there are just so many driver problems associated with them.

I don't agree. I had 3rd party Compiz and Berly packages on FC5 and
FC6 6 months ago and had better exeperience and less bugs with them
than with compiz that is now in F7! To me this looks like lack of
attention for these packages.


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