Hi, I have one new proposal. Echo actions aren't isometric icons, but rest is. "New generation" Echo are great, but isometric perspective makes me sad. Did you ever thinked about letting isometric perspective go away? Plain and on-the-shelf perspectives are very good IMHO, and IMHO better than any 3D. -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/