From jonstanley at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 05:23:00 2008 From: jonstanley at gmail.com (Jon Stanley) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 01:23:00 -0400 Subject: Release counter for F9 In-Reply-To: <47F097D0.9060902@nicubunu.ro> References: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> <47F097D0.9060902@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 3:50 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > I believe ReleaseEngineering is the proper entity to ask about this, do > we have anyone here connected to it? Yep, I'm in daily contact. I'll ping Jesse tomorrow. Sorry I didn't see this earlier :( From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Apr 1 05:48:28 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:48:28 +0300 Subject: [Waves] Complete wallpaper set In-Reply-To: <1207002079.3222.12.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1206806492.8277.40.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80803311051s2409946bkcf75abd7798aa08c@mail.gmail.com> <47F126F1.4010902@gmail.com> <1207002079.3222.12.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <47F1CCAC.6030701@nicubunu.ro> Martin Sourada wrote: > On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 13:01 -0500, Michael Beckwith wrote: >> I believe the 1920x1200 is widescreen ratio > > Yes it is, and in the shape Matthias included it in the > desktop-backgrounds in rawhide it seems to work well (I have widescreen > too and it used the widescreen version automatically). Indeed. I am on Rawhide currently, received the update and it works OK on my wide screen. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Apr 1 06:28:33 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 09:28:33 +0300 Subject: [RFE]... In-Reply-To: <47F0D0B8.90703@hi.is> References: <47F0D0B8.90703@hi.is> Message-ID: <47F1D611.8090009@nicubunu.ro> J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote: > RFE for cool user/avatar image to use as default for > "other/guest" accounts in GDM on live spins and with installation We had an effort like this about a year ago and collected a number of images: http://www.isity.net/blog/?p=65 I think it would be *trivial* for the Art team to either resurrect those submission or gather a number of new ones (it seems our team grew in number since then), the real requirement would be for the desktop guys to make use of those images. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 17:24:27 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:24:27 -0800 Subject: [RFE]... In-Reply-To: <47F1D611.8090009@nicubunu.ro> References: <47F0D0B8.90703@hi.is> <47F1D611.8090009@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <604aa7910804011024g4e08eb6do88f47a8cd43456ff@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > I think it would be *trivial* for the Art team to either resurrect those > submission or gather a number of new ones (it seems our team grew in > number since then), the real requirement would be for the desktop guys > to make use of those images. > I personally think the avatar images can be considered part of the gdm theming. Do we need to have a discussion with the desktop team concerning the default 'face' image as part of gdm theming? -jef -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mclasen at redhat.com Tue Apr 1 17:28:51 2008 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:28:51 -0400 Subject: [RFE]... In-Reply-To: <604aa7910804011024g4e08eb6do88f47a8cd43456ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <47F0D0B8.90703@hi.is> <47F1D611.8090009@nicubunu.ro> <604aa7910804011024g4e08eb6do88f47a8cd43456ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1207070931.24597.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 09:24 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Nicu Buculei > wrote: > I think it would be *trivial* for the Art team to either > resurrect those > submission or gather a number of new ones (it seems our team > grew in > number since then), the real requirement would be for the > desktop guys > to make use of those images. > > > I personally think the avatar images can be considered part of the gdm > theming. Do we need to have a discussion with the desktop team > concerning the default 'face' image as part of gdm theming? Not sure if you need to have a discussion. But we are actively looking at the issue of better icons there, in particular for 'automatic login'. From nisses.mail at home.se Tue Apr 1 17:50:21 2008 From: nisses.mail at home.se (Andreas Nilsson) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 19:50:21 +0200 Subject: [RFE]... In-Reply-To: <47F1D611.8090009@nicubunu.ro> References: <47F0D0B8.90703@hi.is> <47F1D611.8090009@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47F275DD.2020905@home.se> Nicu Buculei wrote: > J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote: >> RFE for cool user/avatar image to use as default for >> "other/guest" accounts in GDM on live spins and with installation > > We had an effort like this about a year ago and collected a number of > images: http://www.isity.net/blog/?p=65 > > I think it would be *trivial* for the Art team to either resurrect > those submission or gather a number of new ones (it seems our team > grew in number since then), the real requirement would be for the > desktop guys to make use of those images. Damn. I knew there was something we missed last release. Anyone want to help me out to get those in in upstream GNOME? - Andreas From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Apr 1 21:51:34 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:51:34 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Attachments and MediaWiki Message-ID: So it looks like attachments in mediawiki are all in one location. This is handy but is different from the way you all work now. Correct me if I'm wrong on this (ianweller, I'm lookin at you :-P But if this is the case, what do you want me to do with all of your attachments? Just grab them all and upload them? -Mike From ianweller at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 02:34:44 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 21:34:44 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Attachments and MediaWiki In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Mike McGrath wrote: > So it looks like attachments in mediawiki are all in one location. This > is handy but is different from the way you all work now. > > Correct me if I'm wrong on this (ianweller, I'm lookin at you :-P This is the case, yes. They're all under the Image: namespace, and they all need to have different file names... commonly I see duplicates uploaded to different pages so something would need to check for that. -- ian From andyfitz at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 04:57:23 2008 From: andyfitz at gmail.com (Andy Fitzsimon) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:57:23 +0800 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas Message-ID: G'day everyone, Congratulations of all the Fedora9 efforts I've seen. Shamefully my work and relocation to singapore kept me from contributing to the great things happening around Fedora. So onto Fedore 10 right ??? I was thinking of reviving or building upon the flying high concept from FC7 with some more artwork. for initial inspiration: http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyfitz/2366301782/ or something similar http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyfitz/tags/sky/ Nothing say infinite freedom like looking to the sky. What do you reckon? Andy From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Apr 2 06:11:33 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:11:33 +0300 Subject: [RFE]... In-Reply-To: <47F275DD.2020905@home.se> References: <47F0D0B8.90703@hi.is> <47F1D611.8090009@nicubunu.ro> <47F275DD.2020905@home.se> Message-ID: <47F32395.7020003@nicubunu.ro> Andreas Nilsson wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: >> We had an effort like this about a year ago and collected a number of >> images: http://www.isity.net/blog/?p=65 >> >> I think it would be *trivial* for the Art team to either resurrect >> those submission or gather a number of new ones (it seems our team >> grew in number since then), the real requirement would be for the >> desktop guys to make use of those images. > Damn. > I knew there was something we missed last release. Anyone want to help > me out to get those in in upstream GNOME? Make that the last two releases :p Is there any way I (not being an upstream developer) can help with that? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Apr 2 06:32:54 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:32:54 +0300 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47F32896.5010109@nicubunu.ro> Andy Fitzsimon wrote: > G'day everyone, Hi, > Congratulations of all the Fedora9 efforts I've seen. > Shamefully my work and relocation to singapore kept me from > contributing to the great things happening around Fedora. Glad to have you back! > So onto Fedore 10 right ??? Yes, F9 may have to get small polish and some additional graphics (web, marketing) but we can start thinking about the future. Formal proposals are expected in a page like this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/ThemeName > I was thinking of reviving or building upon the flying high concept > from FC7 with some more artwork. Enough time passed, so I guess being similar with that is not a blocker anymore. > for initial inspiration: http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyfitz/2366301782/ > or something similar http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyfitz/tags/sky/ Beautiful. > Nothing say infinite freedom like looking to the sky. > What do you reckon? Yup, the sky is always a good metaphor for freedom, infinity, infinite freedom, high aspirations. And the sun coming from behind those clouds suggest hope, rebirth, a new beginning... -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 07:25:09 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:25:09 +0200 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1207121109.3043.2.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 12:57 +0800, Andy Fitzsimon wrote: > G'day everyone, > > Congratulations of all the Fedora9 efforts I've seen. > Shamefully my work and relocation to singapore kept me from > contributing to the great things happening around Fedora. > > So onto Fedore 10 right ??? > > I was thinking of reviving or building upon the flying high concept > from FC7 with some more artwork. > > for initial inspiration: http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyfitz/2366301782/ > or something similar http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyfitz/tags/sky/ > > Nothing say infinite freedom like looking to the sky. > What do you reckon? > > Andy > Great. It's good to start this early with the theming, thus we'll have less problems in the future with time schedule :) Personally, out of the flicker images, I think this one is the best: http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyfitz/493114126/ It's more colourful that most of the others but still does show only sky (i.e. no buildings). Beautiful! Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Apr 2 07:40:36 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:40:36 +0300 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <1207121109.3043.2.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1207121109.3043.2.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <47F33874.3020900@nicubunu.ro> Martin Sourada wrote: > > Great. It's good to start this early with the theming, thus we'll have > less problems in the future with time schedule :) I don't know... if we get again a release name in the middle of Round 2 and get the process influenced by that and start wondering about the usefulness of the first round... -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From frankly3d at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 08:54:29 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:54:29 +0100 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <47F33874.3020900@nicubunu.ro> References: <1207121109.3043.2.camel@pc-notebook> <47F33874.3020900@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1207126469.7110.7.camel@frank-01> On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 10:40 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > > > Great. It's good to start this early with the theming, thus we'll have > > less problems in the future with time schedule :) > > I don't know... if we get again a release name in the middle of Round 2 > and get the process influenced by that and start wondering about the > usefulness of the first round... > Does the theme have to be based on the Release Name? Can the art theme not stand alone? eg rawhide > Animal Skin. The skies are nice, but what about: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/waterfall/clusters/ Roar=Voice, Timeless=Infinite, Flowing=Freedom Frank Please No CC, I'm on the list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Apr 2 09:04:13 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:04:13 +0300 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <1207126469.7110.7.camel@frank-01> References: <1207121109.3043.2.camel@pc-notebook> <47F33874.3020900@nicubunu.ro> <1207126469.7110.7.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47F34C0D.5000101@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > > Does the theme have to be based on the Release Name? > Can the art theme not stand alone? For F9 we tried for the first time to tie the graphics to the release name. But that was mostly for historical reasons: the tradition was to have the name defined very late, when the distro (and the graphics) wad ready and frozen. Just imagine the possibilities back when F6 was named Zod... > eg rawhide > Animal Skin. > > The skies are nice, but what about: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/waterfall/clusters/ > > Roar=Voice, Timeless=Infinite, Flowing=Freedom Sure, consider doing a formal proposal. > Frank > > Please No CC, I'm on the list You ask to be added on CC, your mail client set the Reply-To header to your mail address, so by default you receive a copy. You ask us to do the additional work of deleting it at every reply. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From frankly3d at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 09:08:48 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 10:08:48 +0100 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <47F34C0D.5000101@nicubunu.ro> References: <1207121109.3043.2.camel@pc-notebook> <47F33874.3020900@nicubunu.ro> <1207126469.7110.7.camel@frank-01> <47F34C0D.5000101@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1207127328.7496.0.camel@frank-01> On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 12:04 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > F > You ask to be added on CC, your mail client set the Reply-To header to > your mail address, so by default you receive a copy. You ask us to do > the additional work of deleting it at every reply. > That I didn't know, now fixed Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 10:38:30 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:38:30 +0200 Subject: F10 Artwork and Release Name [was: Re: Fedora 10 theme ideas] In-Reply-To: <47F33874.3020900@nicubunu.ro> References: <1207121109.3043.2.camel@pc-notebook> <47F33874.3020900@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1207132710.3043.8.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 10:40 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > > > Great. It's good to start this early with the theming, thus we'll have > > less problems in the future with time schedule :) > > I don't know... if we get again a release name in the middle of Round 2 > and get the process influenced by that and start wondering about the > usefulness of the first round... > Aaah, I forgot... Then, is it already decided when the F10 release name will be set? If we are going to match the artwork for F10 with it's release name, it would greatly help if the release name was determined really early in the process, so it would make IMHO sense (and would greatly help us, the art team) to start with the F10 naming process now and have a vote just about (or shortly after) the F9 release. What do you think? Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If we are going to match the artwork for F10 with it's > release name, it would greatly help if the release name was determined > really early in the process, so it would make IMHO sense (and would > greatly help us, the art team) to start with the F10 naming process now > and have a vote just about (or shortly after) the F9 release. What do > you think? Supposedly there was recently some talk about that - jump to "3) Painless Releases Meeting": https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-March/msg00139.html -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 11:15:00 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:15:00 +0200 Subject: F10 Artwork and Release Name [was: Re: Fedora 10 theme ideas] In-Reply-To: <47F3678C.4060509@nicubunu.ro> References: <1207121109.3043.2.camel@pc-notebook> <47F33874.3020900@nicubunu.ro> <1207132710.3043.8.camel@pc-notebook> <47F3678C.4060509@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1207134900.3043.16.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 14:01 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 10:40 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > >> I don't know... if we get again a release name in the middle of Round 2 > >> and get the process influenced by that and start wondering about the > >> usefulness of the first round... > > > > Aaah, I forgot... Then, is it already decided when the F10 release name > > will be set? If we are going to match the artwork for F10 with it's > > release name, it would greatly help if the release name was determined > > really early in the process, so it would make IMHO sense (and would > > greatly help us, the art team) to start with the F10 naming process now > > and have a vote just about (or shortly after) the F9 release. What do > > you think? > > Supposedly there was recently some talk about that - jump to "3) > Painless Releases Meeting": > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-March/msg00139.html > I read this thread, but I fail to see if a decision has been made since then? Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Let's wait before jumping to conclusions. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 2 13:24:58 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 09:24:58 -0400 Subject: F10 Artwork and Release Name [was: Re: Fedora 10 theme ideas] In-Reply-To: <1207134900.3043.16.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1207121109.3043.2.camel@pc-notebook> <47F33874.3020900@nicubunu.ro> <1207132710.3043.8.camel@pc-notebook> <47F3678C.4060509@nicubunu.ro> <1207134900.3043.16.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <47F3892A.4080201@fedoraproject.org> Hi Martin, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 14:01 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> Martin Sourada wrote: >>> On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 10:40 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: >>>> I don't know... if we get again a release name in the middle of Round 2 >>>> and get the process influenced by that and start wondering about the >>>> usefulness of the first round... >>> Aaah, I forgot... Then, is it already decided when the F10 release name >>> will be set? If we are going to match the artwork for F10 with it's >>> release name, it would greatly help if the release name was determined >>> really early in the process, so it would make IMHO sense (and would >>> greatly help us, the art team) to start with the F10 naming process now >>> and have a vote just about (or shortly after) the F9 release. What do >>> you think? >> Supposedly there was recently some talk about that - jump to "3) >> Painless Releases Meeting": >> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-March/msg00139.html >> > > I read this thread, but I fail to see if a decision has been made since > then? I don't know if minutes are available for that meeting, but Jessie Keating said that the naming process for F10 will start as soon as F9 is released so we will hopefully have the codename a lot earlier. ~m From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Apr 2 13:46:08 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 08:46:08 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Attachments and MediaWiki In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Ian Weller wrote: > On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > So it looks like attachments in mediawiki are all in one location. This > > is handy but is different from the way you all work now. > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong on this (ianweller, I'm lookin at you :-P > > This is the case, yes. They're all under the Image: namespace, and they > all need to have different file names... commonly I see duplicates > uploaded to different pages so something would need to check for that. > -- ian Ugh, thats not going to be fun. What do you want me to do with them? -Mike From jeff at ocjtech.us Wed Apr 2 13:53:18 2008 From: jeff at ocjtech.us (Jeffrey Ollie) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 08:53:18 -0500 Subject: Attachments and MediaWiki In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <935ead450804020653h42c3dfa5t3732e17638b1c0b5@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Ian Weller wrote: > > > > This is the case, yes. They're all under the Image: namespace, and they > > all need to have different file names... commonly I see duplicates > > uploaded to different pages so something would need to check for that. > > Ugh, thats not going to be fun. What do you want me to do with them? Could you munge the page name into the file name, e.g. something like MoinPageName_AttachmentName.jpg? Jeff From markg85 at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 14:35:39 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 16:35:39 +0200 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <47F381ED.3030706@nicubunu.ro> References: <1207027411.2179.0.camel@fedora> <47F381ED.3030706@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804020735n586f79f5xfd4a0607b243c770@mail.gmail.com> Oke let the brainstorm start ;) My idea for F9 was: keep the theme the same any just improve it. I keep that idea for F10. Also for F10 i would like to propose some really polished things (ala mac os). For example: When you hover on something that is done by the theme (lets sat the minimize, close and maximize buttons) it's instantly changing to the next image. lets it "flow (fadeout old and simultaneous fadein the new one)" over to the other image so that you get a nice animation in it. Also the taskbar buttons should get the same attention. actually everything should. About the taskbar. Pre F9 i suggested to make a F9 theme improvement that also skins the taskbar.. as of today this hasn't been done in Fedora! i made a few mockups of it a _while_ back but they where in orange and to much vista like (with sudden colour jumps). But the idea remains valid. I will see if i can make a new mockup of this. Also the notification thing really needs a theme (i just like everything skinned instead of plain). That are my idea's so far. I will try to make some mockups of it soon. From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 2 15:02:35 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:02:35 -0400 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804020735n586f79f5xfd4a0607b243c770@mail.gmail.com> References: <1207027411.2179.0.camel@fedora> <47F381ED.3030706@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804020735n586f79f5xfd4a0607b243c770@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F3A00B.50909@fedoraproject.org> Mark wrote: > Also for F10 i would like to propose some really polished things (ala > mac os). For example: When you hover on something that is done by the > theme (lets sat the minimize, close and maximize buttons) it's > instantly changing to the next image. lets it "flow (fadeout old and > simultaneous fadein the new one)" over to the other image so that you > get a nice animation in it. Also the taskbar buttons should get the > same attention. actually everything should. One of the ideas some Red Hatters had on our bus ride into work this morning was to code name F10 "neon" (neon being the 10th element in the periodic table of elements.) The link between werewolf and sulphur is that sulphur helps ward away werewolves. The link between sulphur and neon would be that they are both elements. It would then be cool to have a wallpaper with a neon Fedora logo sign on it, when it gets dark the neon sign lights up, when it's daylight the neon sign turns off. The general artwork such as the banners and splashes could be a glossy dark grey with very bright thin accents, think accent colors like bright Fedora blue, magenta, yellow, and green. We could probably do some awesome designs using light painting, eg here are some examples of light painting that I did a while back: http://flickr.com/photos/mairin/2116954288/ http://flickr.com/photos/mairin/2116954038/ http://flickr.com/photos/mairin/2116172957/ http://flickr.com/photos/mairin/2116953396/ Some other inspirations: http://k1rby65.deviantart.com/art/Neon-75394699 http://feanne.deviantart.com/art/dream-neon-liquid-N-31800430 http://foureyes.deviantart.com/art/the-biker-and-the-neon-15248779 ==== Another codename that was suggested for f9 but got 2nd place might be good for F10 - bathysphere. Do you know what a bathysphere is? I didnt but I learned this morning: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathysphere_%28vessel%29 We could come up with some very interesting visual ideas to accompany bathysphere, such as underwater aquatic scenes or we could go for a really really cool steampunk [1] look (eg http://www.datamancer.net/steampunklaptop/steampunklaptop.htm, http://www.crabfu.com/steamtoys/diy_steampunk/ (check out the bottom of the page!!!), here's some more I think look cool: http://psion005.deviantart.com/art/Steampunk-54796049 http://lebbeus.deviantart.com/art/Steampunk-concept-52799495 http://preilly.deviantart.com/art/Steampunk-64546343 http://zahntelmo.deviantart.com/art/steampunk-65125962 http://meluseena.deviantart.com/art/Steampunk-city-73091687 ~m [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk From frankly3d at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 15:04:21 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:04:21 +0100 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <47F34C0D.5000101@nicubunu.ro> References: <1207121109.3043.2.camel@pc-notebook> <47F33874.3020900@nicubunu.ro> <1207126469.7110.7.camel@frank-01> <47F34C0D.5000101@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1207148661.16358.1.camel@frank-01> On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 12:04 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > > > The skies are nice, but what about: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/waterfall/clusters/ > > > > Roar=Voice, Timeless=Infinite, Flowing=Freedom > > Sure, consider doing a formal proposal. > Is it here I make the formal proposal?, or should I try joining the wiki? Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Apr 2 15:06:31 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:06:31 +0300 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804020735n586f79f5xfd4a0607b243c770@mail.gmail.com> References: <1207027411.2179.0.camel@fedora> <47F381ED.3030706@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804020735n586f79f5xfd4a0607b243c770@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F3A0F7.4010300@nicubunu.ro> Mark wrote: > Oke let the brainstorm start ;) > > My idea for F9 was: keep the theme the same any just improve it. I > keep that idea for F10. > Also for F10 i would like to propose some really polished things (ala > mac os). For example: When you hover on something that is done by the > theme (lets sat the minimize, close and maximize buttons) Let's keep the talk organized, and not mix and confuse things: Nodoka talk in a dedicated Nodoka thread, wallpaper talk in threads dedicated to each wallpaper proposals. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Apr 2 15:09:23 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:09:23 +0300 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <1207148661.16358.1.camel@frank-01> References: <1207121109.3043.2.camel@pc-notebook> <47F33874.3020900@nicubunu.ro> <1207126469.7110.7.camel@frank-01> <47F34C0D.5000101@nicubunu.ro> <1207148661.16358.1.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47F3A1A3.3030102@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 12:04 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > >>> The skies are nice, but what about: >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/waterfall/clusters/ >>> >>> Roar=Voice, Timeless=Infinite, Flowing=Freedom >> Sure, consider doing a formal proposal. > > Is it here I make the formal proposal?, > or should I try joining the wiki? Both. Quote from the wiki page [1]: Formally propose your theme submission on fedora-art-list When your theme's wiki page is ready, send a proposal to fedora-art-list using the following email subject format: [F10 theme proposal] (name of theme) Round 1 For example: "F10 theme proposal] Fedora Finite Round 1" [1] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Apr 2 15:29:42 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:29:42 +0300 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <47F3A00B.50909@fedoraproject.org> References: <1207027411.2179.0.camel@fedora> <47F381ED.3030706@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804020735n586f79f5xfd4a0607b243c770@mail.gmail.com> <47F3A00B.50909@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F3A666.7010205@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > One of the ideas some Red Hatters had on our bus ride into work this > morning was to code name F10 "neon" (neon being the 10th element in the > periodic table of elements.) The link between werewolf and sulphur is > that sulphur helps ward away werewolves. The link between sulphur and > neon would be that they are both elements. Neon sounds interesting and very prone to animated backgrounds but before jumping at it it has to be cleared by legal and voted bu the community :D > It would then be cool to have a wallpaper with a neon Fedora logo sign > on it, when it gets dark the neon sign lights up, when it's daylight the > neon sign turns off. I may sound negative, but this is not my intention: we just took the logo out from the wallpaper, now we will put it back? But the effect sounds *very* interesting. > The general artwork such as the banners and splashes could be a glossy > dark grey with very bright thin accents, think accent colors like bright > Fedora blue, magenta, yellow, and green. We could probably do some > awesome designs using light painting, eg here are some examples of light > painting that I did a while back: > > http://flickr.com/photos/mairin/2116954288/ > http://flickr.com/photos/mairin/2116954038/ > http://flickr.com/photos/mairin/2116172957/ > http://flickr.com/photos/mairin/2116953396/ Those reminds me a bit about the FC4-era wallpaper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fedora_Core_4.png > ==== > > Another codename that was suggested for f9 but got 2nd place might be > good for F10 - bathysphere. Do you know what a bathysphere is? I didnt > but I learned this morning: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathysphere_%28vessel%29 > > We could come up with some very interesting visual ideas to accompany > bathysphere, such as underwater aquatic scenes or we could go for a > really really cool steampunk [1] look (eg > http://www.datamancer.net/steampunklaptop/steampunklaptop.htm, > http://www.crabfu.com/steamtoys/diy_steampunk/ (check out the bottom of > the page!!!), here's some more I think look cool: I am more into high fantasy than steampunk but I agree, it would be interesting to have a background like a rough drawing of some ancient gears. Imagine a steampunk machine producing Fedora spins on DVD :p And we can expand into an entire techno-magical theme, kind of the Arcanum game: http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/arcanum-of-steamworks-magick-obscura/screenshots -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From markg85 at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 16:05:06 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 18:05:06 +0200 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <47F3A00B.50909@fedoraproject.org> References: <1207027411.2179.0.camel@fedora> <47F381ED.3030706@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804020735n586f79f5xfd4a0607b243c770@mail.gmail.com> <47F3A00B.50909@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804020905l435545aete3f651414f5dda2f@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/2, M?ir?n Duffy : > Mark wrote: > > > Also for F10 i would like to propose some really polished things (ala > > mac os). For example: When you hover on something that is done by the > > theme (lets sat the minimize, close and maximize buttons) it's > > instantly changing to the next image. lets it "flow (fadeout old and > > simultaneous fadein the new one)" over to the other image so that you > > get a nice animation in it. Also the taskbar buttons should get the > > same attention. actually everything should. > > > > One of the ideas some Red Hatters had on our bus ride into work this > morning was to code name F10 "neon" (neon being the 10th element in the > periodic table of elements.) The link between werewolf and sulphur is that > sulphur helps ward away werewolves. The link between sulphur and neon would > be that they are both elements. > > It would then be cool to have a wallpaper with a neon Fedora logo sign on > it, when it gets dark the neon sign lights up, when it's daylight the neon > sign turns off. > > The general artwork such as the banners and splashes could be a glossy dark > grey with very bright thin accents, think accent colors like bright Fedora > blue, magenta, yellow, and green. We could probably do some awesome designs > using light painting, eg here are some examples of light painting that I did > a while back: > > http://flickr.com/photos/mairin/2116954288/ > http://flickr.com/photos/mairin/2116954038/ > http://flickr.com/photos/mairin/2116172957/ > http://flickr.com/photos/mairin/2116953396/ > > Some other inspirations: > > http://k1rby65.deviantart.com/art/Neon-75394699 > http://feanne.deviantart.com/art/dream-neon-liquid-N-31800430 > http://foureyes.deviantart.com/art/the-biker-and-the-neon-15248779 > Till here it all sounds awesome! > ==== > > Another codename that was suggested for f9 but got 2nd place might be good > for F10 - bathysphere. Do you know what a bathysphere is? I didnt but I > learned this morning: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathysphere_%28vessel%29 > > We could come up with some very interesting visual ideas to accompany > bathysphere, such as underwater aquatic scenes or we could go for a really > really cool steampunk [1] look (eg > http://www.datamancer.net/steampunklaptop/steampunklaptop.htm, > http://www.crabfu.com/steamtoys/diy_steampunk/ (check out > the bottom of the page!!!), here's some more I think look cool: > > http://psion005.deviantart.com/art/Steampunk-54796049 > http://lebbeus.deviantart.com/art/Steampunk-concept-52799495 > http://preilly.deviantart.com/art/Steampunk-64546343 > http://zahntelmo.deviantart.com/art/steampunk-65125962 > http://meluseena.deviantart.com/art/Steampunk-city-73091687 > > ~m > > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk > All nice but i fail to see how this could look good in fedora.. @Nicu Doesn't theme talk cover everything you see (including wallpapers and nodoka). From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 2 16:17:33 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 21:47:33 +0530 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804020905l435545aete3f651414f5dda2f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1207027411.2179.0.camel@fedora> <47F381ED.3030706@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804020735n586f79f5xfd4a0607b243c770@mail.gmail.com> <47F3A00B.50909@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804020905l435545aete3f651414f5dda2f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F3B19D.8000906@fedoraproject.org> Mark wrote: > @Nicu > Doesn't theme talk cover everything you see (including wallpapers and nodoka). > The discussion for themes that are release specific does not include the window manager theme. You should post ideas on Nodoka separately. Rahul From mmcgrath at redhat.com Wed Apr 2 18:27:15 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 13:27:15 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Attachments and MediaWiki In-Reply-To: <935ead450804020653h42c3dfa5t3732e17638b1c0b5@mail.gmail.com> References: <935ead450804020653h42c3dfa5t3732e17638b1c0b5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Ian Weller wrote: > > > > > > This is the case, yes. They're all under the Image: namespace, and they > > > all need to have different file names... commonly I see duplicates > > > uploaded to different pages so something would need to check for that. > > > > Ugh, thats not going to be fun. What do you want me to do with them? > > Could you munge the page name into the file name, e.g. something like > MoinPageName_AttachmentName.jpg? > Possibly. I've created a page here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/WikiMigration Someone from the art team please put your name up there (I suspect ianweller will but didn't want to volunteer him or anything :) -Mike From dchurch at eatel.net Wed Apr 2 18:32:14 2008 From: dchurch at eatel.net (David Church) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 13:32:14 -0500 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004001c894ef$df6a9d60$ec32000a@jdc1898> What about a universe? -----Original Message----- From: fedora-art-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-art-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Andy Fitzsimon Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:57 PM To: fedora-art-list at redhat.com Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas G'day everyone, Congratulations of all the Fedora9 efforts I've seen. Shamefully my work and relocation to singapore kept me from contributing to the great things happening around Fedora. So onto Fedore 10 right ??? I was thinking of reviving or building upon the flying high concept from FC7 with some more artwork. for initial inspiration: http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyfitz/2366301782/ or something similar http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyfitz/tags/sky/ Nothing say infinite freedom like looking to the sky. What do you reckon? Andy _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list From markg85 at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 18:53:00 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 20:53:00 +0200 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <004001c894ef$df6a9d60$ec32000a@jdc1898> References: <004001c894ef$df6a9d60$ec32000a@jdc1898> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804021153o417ae7ffxda88f65ec0ef6c4d@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/2, David Church : > What about a universe? that's a nice one, but not really handy i think. A few months ago i read on this list that the theme idea's where going higher with each release. The balloon fedora was as high as it could possibly go with the high stuff from the ground to space. Making a universe theme now would make it impossible to go higher in themes because there is nothing bigger.. If something like that was done than i would first go for: earth view then: solar system then: this galaxy then: "the local group" (we are part of that incase you didn't know) and then the universe. that has some more theme room for future fedora releases. Something else that would be nice is playing with 10's. just all kind of different sizes of 10's in a neon like glow.. From markg85 at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 19:10:49 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 21:10:49 +0200 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> Hey, i'm having some suggestions for nodoka in the next fedora version. My general idea for fedora is to have the themes polished in F10. Nodoka can do a lot to get that done. Oke for the first one. When you hover a button or anything that's nodoka controlled like the buttons: minimize, maximize and close. When you put your mouse on one of them the image behind it is instantly changing to the hover state (or something like it). My suggestion would be to make a effect of it. Fade out the old one and simultaneously fade in the new image so that you get some nice effects there. Also do this for every other thing that has another state when it's selected, hovered etc. The second one is something i've requested before but never got in. Theme the taskbar! fully theme it, not just change the colour but really give it a theme. As far as i know this has never been done in fedora. I will try to make a mockup of it sometime soon. Third. A while back i made a mockup of a themed notification message. the current one looks kinda plain. The one i had made was one you all seemed to like one way or the other but never got implemented. I will try to find that mockup and post it again to see if this could find it's way in Fedora 10. That's it for this moment. i'm sure i will come with more once i'm busy making mockups. But what is your opinion about those ideas so far and how likely is it to get them in Fedora 10? From markg85 at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 20:11:49 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 22:11:49 +0200 Subject: [Waves] Complete wallpaper set In-Reply-To: <1207002079.3222.12.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1206806492.8277.40.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80803311051s2409946bkcf75abd7798aa08c@mail.gmail.com> <47F126F1.4010902@gmail.com> <1207002079.3222.12.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804021311q32d97481r52cf3c322a49a192@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/1, Martin Sourada : > On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 13:01 -0500, Michael Beckwith wrote: > > I believe the 1920x1200 is widescreen ratio > > > Yes it is, and in the shape Matthias included it in the > desktop-backgrounds in rawhide it seems to work well (I have widescreen > too and it used the widescreen version automatically). > > > Martin > How could i have missed that :S... i must have been looking for 1280x800 only.. Sorry, my mistake. From slaughter.dave at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 22:25:01 2008 From: slaughter.dave at gmail.com (dave slaughter) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 18:25:01 -0400 Subject: Introduction Message-ID: <16a54eb80804021525l528f0c05rb62135a064d815b3@mail.gmail.com> First off I would like to thank Nicu Buculei for e-mailing me and inviting me to join after I submitted my app, so thank you Nicu. Now, I would like to introduce myself to the rest of the members, my name is Dave, and I am from just outside Boston Mass. in the United States. I have been using Linux for about 4-5 years now, and have been doing computer graphic design for as long as I have been using computers, so since the original apple II. I just enjoy doing artwork, be it wallpapers, web banners, GDM's (just started on making those), or anything else. I just started using Fedora again, after not using a Red Hat based system since Red Hat 6, been using mostly Debian base OS's, but I am very pleased with F8, very nice, clean distro. I would like to start work with the art team and try to get involved in making artwork for Fedora, be it (as I stated above) wallpapers, GDMs, or anything else that may be of use to the team, and would also like to be a part of something that I believe is of great value, and try to give back to the Fedora community in some way, as my programing skills leave something to be desired. I will stop here and keep this short as not to take of too much of all of time. So hello everybody, and I look forward to working with you all of on whatever projects may be ahead. Sincerely, Dave S. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markg85 at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 23:35:09 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 01:35:09 +0200 Subject: Introduction In-Reply-To: <16a54eb80804021525l528f0c05rb62135a064d815b3@mail.gmail.com> References: <16a54eb80804021525l528f0c05rb62135a064d815b3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804021635j68ff7440r39495ecafca25109@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/3, dave slaughter : > First off I would like to thank Nicu Buculei for e-mailing me and > inviting me to join after I submitted my app, so thank you Nicu. > Now, I would like to introduce myself to the rest of the members, my > name is Dave, and I am from just outside Boston Mass. in the United States. > I have been using Linux for about 4-5 years now, and have been doing > computer graphic design for as long as I have been using computers, so since > the original apple II. I just enjoy doing artwork, be it wallpapers, web > banners, GDM's (just started on making those), or anything else. I just > started using Fedora again, after not using a Red Hat based system since Red > Hat 6, been using mostly Debian base OS's, but I am very pleased with F8, > very nice, clean distro. > I would like to start work with the art team and try to get involved > in making artwork for Fedora, be it (as I stated above) wallpapers, GDMs, or > anything else that may be of use to the team, and would also like to be a > part of something that I believe is of great value, and try to give back to > the Fedora community in some way, as my programing skills leave something to > be desired. > I will stop here and keep this short as not to take of too much of all > of time. > So hello everybody, and I look forward to working with you all of on > whatever projects may be ahead. > Sincerely, > Dave S. Hi Dave, Welcome to the fedora art list! It's great that you are willing to spend your time on improving the look of fedora. Could you perhaps post some links to things you've made before? and i'm really looking forward to the things you are making now for fedora. Thanx so far, Mark From subsolar at subsolar.com Wed Apr 2 23:45:31 2008 From: subsolar at subsolar.com (Paul) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:45:31 -0500 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <1207126469.7110.7.camel@frank-01> References: <1207121109.3043.2.camel@pc-notebook> <47F33874.3020900@nicubunu.ro> <1207126469.7110.7.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <1207179931.3900.3.camel@chilly> On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 09:54 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 10:40 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > Martin Sourada wrote: > > > > > > Great. It's good to start this early with the theming, thus we'll have > > > less problems in the future with time schedule :) > > > > I don't know... if we get again a release name in the middle of Round 2 > > and get the process influenced by that and start wondering about the > > usefulness of the first round... > > > > Does the theme have to be based on the Release Name? > Can the art theme not stand alone? > > eg rawhide > Animal Skin. > > The skies are nice, but what about: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/waterfall/clusters/ > > Roar=Voice, Timeless=Infinite, Flowing=Freedom > I out of those the following are rather nice... http://www.flickr.com/photos/steve_green/424383601/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/atlapix/1086593983/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/dynax7/1053719391/ Paul From subsolar at subsolar.com Wed Apr 2 23:50:39 2008 From: subsolar at subsolar.com (Paul) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:50:39 -0500 Subject: F10 Artwork and Release Name [was: Re: Fedora 10 theme ideas] In-Reply-To: <47F3892A.4080201@fedoraproject.org> References: <1207121109.3043.2.camel@pc-notebook> <47F33874.3020900@nicubunu.ro> <1207132710.3043.8.camel@pc-notebook> <47F3678C.4060509@nicubunu.ro> <1207134900.3043.16.camel@pc-notebook> <47F3892A.4080201@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1207180239.3900.7.camel@chilly> On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 09:24 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi Martin, > > Martin Sourada wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 14:01 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > >> Martin Sourada wrote: > >>> On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 10:40 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > >>>> I don't know... if we get again a release name in the middle of Round 2 > >>>> and get the process influenced by that and start wondering about the > >>>> usefulness of the first round... > >>> Aaah, I forgot... Then, is it already decided when the F10 release name > >>> will be set? If we are going to match the artwork for F10 with it's > >>> release name, it would greatly help if the release name was determined > >>> really early in the process, so it would make IMHO sense (and would > >>> greatly help us, the art team) to start with the F10 naming process now > >>> and have a vote just about (or shortly after) the F9 release. What do > >>> you think? > >> Supposedly there was recently some talk about that - jump to "3) > >> Painless Releases Meeting": > >> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-March/msg00139.html > >> > > > > I read this thread, but I fail to see if a decision has been made since > > then? > > I don't know if minutes are available for that meeting, but Jessie > Keating said that the naming process for F10 will start as soon as F9 is > released so we will hopefully have the codename a lot earlier. > Hmm, it would be interesting if they would pick names from the four classical elements of Earth, Air, Fire and Water ... two of the suggested theme ideas so far cover two of those. Paul From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 23:59:55 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:59:55 +0200 Subject: Introduction In-Reply-To: <16a54eb80804021525l528f0c05rb62135a064d815b3@mail.gmail.com> References: <16a54eb80804021525l528f0c05rb62135a064d815b3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1207180796.3043.64.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 18:25 -0400, dave slaughter wrote: > First off I would like to thank Nicu Buculei for e-mailing me and > inviting me to join after I submitted my app, so thank you Nicu. > Now, I would like to introduce myself to the rest of the members, > my name is Dave, and I am from just outside Boston Mass. in the United > States. I have been using Linux for about 4-5 years now, and have been > doing computer graphic design for as long as I have been using > computers, so since the original apple II. I just enjoy doing artwork, > be it wallpapers, web banners, GDM's (just started on making those), > or anything else. I just started using Fedora again, after not using a > Red Hat based system since Red Hat 6, been using mostly Debian base > OS's, but I am very pleased with F8, very nice, clean distro. > I would like to start work with the art team and try to get > involved in making artwork for Fedora, be it (as I stated above) > wallpapers, GDMs, or anything else that may be of use to the team, and > would also like to be a part of something that I believe is of great > value, and try to give back to the Fedora community in some way, as my > programing skills leave something to be desired. > I will stop here and keep this short as not to take of too much > of all of time. > So hello everybody, and I look forward to working with you all of on > whatever projects may be ahead. > Sincerely, > Dave S. Hello Dave and welcome to the art team. I look forward to working with you as well. I don't know know how much you followed the happenings here in the past, so I'll shortly summarize some of the projects you might help with. * We are finalizing the artwork for F9 [1] and you perhaps noticed we started discussing about the artwork for F10 [2]. If you have any ideas, comments, work, etc. feel free to share them with us. * We are making the new Fedora icon theme, called Echo [3]. Sadly enough it is currently actively developed only by me and Luya Tshimbalanga and we don't have enough time to make fast progress. So any help is welcome here as well. * I am developing the Fedora default gtk engine/theme, Nodoka [4], which is currently reaching 0.7.0 stable version that will be included in F9 and I hope to start working on 0.8 branch after the release. If you have any suggestions (design, code, etc.) feel free to post them. There are also various smaller tasks like design service [5] or hackergotchi service [6]. Though this is not a complete list, I hope it gave you some insight as to what are we doing now. If you have any questions about the happenings, how can you help with the above (or other artwork) projects, or any other thing that concerns art team, feel free to ask :) Regards, Martin References: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes [3] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/ [4] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka [5] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService [6] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/HackergotchiService -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My suggestion would be to make a effect of it. > Fade out the old one and simultaneously fade in the new image so that > you get some nice effects there. Also do this for every other thing > that has another state when it's selected, hovered etc. > That is very interesting. One thing I've noticed, though, and since Metacity allows for that, is that if you change the order of the buttons (using gconf-editor), the properties of the buttons will be inherited by the new elements in their place. For example, I like to have the close and minimize buttons together at the upper left corner of the window, and the menu and maximize buttons on the right corner. The problem with the current implementation of the theme is that it "locks" the buttons to the right corner of the window and even though all effects are "inherited" when they are changed, the "highlight" around the buttons persists and is locked to the buttons on the right hand corner[1]. Maybe the first step would be to lock the highlight border to the properties of the buttons instead of a location in the title bar? (is this even possible in GTK? [or any other toolkit for that matter?]) > The second one is something i've requested before but never got in. > Theme the taskbar! fully theme it, not just change the colour but > really give it a theme. As far as i know this has never been done in > fedora. I will try to make a mockup of it sometime soon. > This sounds VERY interesting indeed... It also opens all sorts of possibilities for themes... Like having both the lower and upper panes have different colors/combinations/highlights, etc. Make launcher icons stand out as buttons, give a glossy look (or not), etc. And have the lower panel (with the "Show Desktop", "Window List" "Recycle Bin" and "Desktop Pager" applets) a completely different, but complementary look than that of the upper panel. Have the Window List applet have its own properties so that (as some people do) if a user deletes one of the panels (to reclaim desktop pace, for instance) and moves the Window List to "the other" panel, these properties are retained and what not. > Third. > A while back i made a mockup of a themed notification message. the > current one looks kinda plain. The one i had made was one you all > seemed to like one way or the other but never got implemented. I will > try to find that mockup and post it again to see if this could find > it's way in Fedora 10. > I don't remember seeing this one, and I would very much like to see it! > That's it for this moment. i'm sure i will come with more once i'm > busy making mockups. > > But what is your opinion about those ideas so far and how likely is it > to get them in Fedora 10? > > PS: I hate it having a sense of "good taste" when it comes to graphics, but 0 talent whatsoever! I would very much like to help the artwork team, if only with some feedback (as my drawing and graphics skills in general really suck) [1]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/thetargos/Desktop/Nodoka-1.png From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Apr 3 08:04:53 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:04:53 +0300 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804020905l435545aete3f651414f5dda2f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1207027411.2179.0.camel@fedora> <47F381ED.3030706@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804020735n586f79f5xfd4a0607b243c770@mail.gmail.com> <47F3A00B.50909@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804020905l435545aete3f651414f5dda2f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F48FA5.8080703@nicubunu.ro> Mark wrote: > 2008/4/2, M?ir?n Duffy : >> >> We could come up with some very interesting visual ideas to accompany >> bathysphere, such as underwater aquatic scenes or we could go for a really >> really cool steampunk [1] look (eg >> >> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk >> > All nice but i fail to see how this could look good in fedora.. Here is q quick concept is a sort of steampunk style (attached - it could go as a website banner). I think we have a lot of room to create an entire universe around such a style. I guess this drawing can also be titled something like "The Golden Age of Fedora" or "The Golden Age of Linux". -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: f10_steampunk.png Type: image/png Size: 20840 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Nicu Buculei wrote: > Mark wrote: >> 2008/4/2, M?ir?n Duffy : >>> >>> We could come up with some very interesting visual ideas to accompany >>> bathysphere, such as underwater aquatic scenes or we could go for a >>> really >>> really cool steampunk [1] look (eg >>> >>> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk >>> >> All nice but i fail to see how this could look good in fedora.. > > Here is q quick concept is a sort of steampunk style (attached - it > could go as a website banner). I think we have a lot of room to create > an entire universe around such a style. > > I guess this drawing can also be titled something like "The Golden Age > of Fedora" or "The Golden Age of Linux". > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Originally I thought it would look interesting if we did something like ink-painted gears on papyrus (or old looking paper), something that might look ancient but time-resisting. However, quick search on flickr showed some other interesting concepts: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_physics/218544601/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/noxdineen/221604402/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/9335174 at N02/1480378673/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/hollymcp/511574107/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/mhy-design/2014428310/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_physics/206657275/in/set-552769/ Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Originally I thought it would > look interesting if we did something like ink-painted gears on papyrus > (or old looking paper), something that might look ancient but > time-resisting. However, quick search on flickr showed some other > interesting concepts: Or things like this (just don't ask me to draw like it): http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiousexpeditions/489992128/ Maybe simpler images: http://www.flickr.com/photos/blusky/94244310/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/blusky/94244314/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/41582768 at N00/229337994/ -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From frankly3d at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 08:53:58 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:53:58 +0100 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <1207212262.7344.5.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1207027411.2179.0.camel@fedora> <47F381ED.3030706@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804020735n586f79f5xfd4a0607b243c770@mail.gmail.com> <47F3A00B.50909@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804020905l435545aete3f651414f5dda2f@mail.gmail.com> <47F48FA5.8080703@nicubunu.ro> <47F493E6.4050407@gmail.com> <1207212262.7344.5.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1207212838.11187.3.camel@frank-01> On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 10:44 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 03:23 -0500, Michael Beckwith wrote: > > One thing I'm thinking of when I view these steampunk graphics, is > > that it may take a lot of attention to detail to pull this off. > > However, I'm new to this whole concept of steampunk so I may be wrong > > as well. > > > > Me too, but the pictures posted before by Mo and others inspired me to > the idea of using gears as the main theme. Originally I thought it would > look interesting if we did something like ink-painted gears on papyrus > (or old looking paper), something that might look ancient but > time-resisting. However, quick search on flickr showed some other > interesting concepts: > Thinking on this, and "water" (life) Watermill, and "neon" can be brought in by moonlight\ and or fireflies. With focus on the wheel day, and on the water\flies at night. Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Originally I thought it would > > look interesting if we did something like ink-painted gears on papyrus > > (or old looking paper), something that might look ancient but > > time-resisting. However, quick search on flickr showed some other > > interesting concepts: > > Or things like this (just don't ask me to draw like it): > http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiousexpeditions/489992128/ > Think of it as just one gear. Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From frankly3d at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 10:23:03 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:23:03 +0100 Subject: [Fwd: Re: gdm login page look&feel] Message-ID: <1207218183.11187.14.camel@frank-01> Some concerns re: "gdm login page look&feel" on the devel list. Maybe someone more up to speed can allay concerns? 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Apr 3 10:36:07 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:36:07 +0300 Subject: [Fwd: Re: gdm login page look&feel] In-Reply-To: <1207218183.11187.14.camel@frank-01> References: <1207218183.11187.14.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47F4B317.7070209@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > Some concerns re: > > "gdm login page look&feel" > > on the devel list. On the *test* list. I am not subscribed there, so I can't reply directly. > Maybe someone more up to speed can allay concerns? Pretty much this is the final look and feel of the GMD dialog, barring some last minute patched to the GDM, which is not yet final. Of course GDM in F9 looks different than F8, it was rewritten and now is themed from GTK+, we, the art team, have not touched it in any way. And this is the way forward for GDM, that will be upstream (GNOME 2.24). If there are bugs with it, please report them. As for backgrounds, indeed, the F9 theme is pretty much complete. It may receive only minor adjustments. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Subject: > Re: gdm login page look&feel > To: > fedora-test-list at redhat.com >> Subject: gdm login page look&feel >> >> Is the current one intended to be also the final? And the same for final >> backgrounds? >> I don't hope so... f8 gdm login is much better! In my opinion obviously > > The way the login area resizes looks quite bad when you click on a user in the list. There appear to be several resizes making it look shaky... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > gdm login page look&feel > To: > "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" > > > Is the current one intended to be also the final? And the same for final > backgrounds? > > I don't hope so... f8 gdm login is much better! In my opinion obviously > > Hopefully the art team will impress us.... > > I went also throuh http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes and f9 > art milestones... should I presume is this completed? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From markg85 at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 10:47:52 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 12:47:52 +0200 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/3, Gian Paolo Mureddu : > Mark escribi?: > > > Hey, > > > > i'm having some suggestions for nodoka in the next fedora version. > > My general idea for fedora is to have the themes polished in F10. > > Nodoka can do a lot to get that done. > > > > Oke for the first one. > > When you hover a button or anything that's nodoka controlled like the > > buttons: minimize, maximize and close. When you put your mouse on one > > of them the image behind it is instantly changing to the hover state > > (or something like it). My suggestion would be to make a effect of it. > > Fade out the old one and simultaneously fade in the new image so that > > you get some nice effects there. Also do this for every other thing > > that has another state when it's selected, hovered etc. > > > > > > That is very interesting. One thing I've noticed, though, and since > Metacity allows for that, is that if you change the order of the buttons > (using gconf-editor), the properties of the buttons will be inherited by the > new elements in their place. For example, I like to have the close and > minimize buttons together at the upper left corner of the window, and the > menu and maximize buttons on the right corner. The problem with the current > implementation of the theme is that it "locks" the buttons to the right > corner of the window and even though all effects are "inherited" when they > are changed, the "highlight" around the buttons persists and is locked to > the buttons on the right hand corner[1]. Maybe the first step would be to > lock the highlight border to the properties of the buttons instead of a > location in the title bar? (is this even possible in GTK? [or any other > toolkit for that matter?]) > > > > The second one is something i've requested before but never got in. > > Theme the taskbar! fully theme it, not just change the colour but > > really give it a theme. As far as i know this has never been done in > > fedora. I will try to make a mockup of it sometime soon. > > > > > > This sounds VERY interesting indeed... It also opens all sorts of > possibilities for themes... Like having both the lower and upper panes have > different colors/combinations/highlights, etc. Make launcher icons stand out > as buttons, give a glossy look (or not), etc. And have the lower panel (with > the "Show Desktop", "Window List" "Recycle Bin" and "Desktop Pager" applets) > a completely different, but complementary look than that of the upper panel. > Have the Window List applet have its own properties so that (as some people > do) if a user deletes one of the panels (to reclaim desktop pace, for > instance) and moves the Window List to "the other" panel, these properties > are retained and what not. > I hope that by "glossy look" of the launcher buttons you don't mean to have them with another background than the panel background! that would not have my preference to say the least. But having it glossy when hovering (like in vista/xp) is a nice idea to have! > > > Third. > > A while back i made a mockup of a themed notification message. the > > current one looks kinda plain. The one i had made was one you all > > seemed to like one way or the other but never got implemented. I will > > try to find that mockup and post it again to see if this could find > > it's way in Fedora 10. > > > > > > I don't remember seeing this one, and I would very much like to see it! Look here later this day in probably about 4 hours. > > > > That's it for this moment. i'm sure i will come with more once i'm > > busy making mockups. > > > > But what is your opinion about those ideas so far and how likely is it > > to get them in Fedora 10? > > > > > > > > PS: I hate it having a sense of "good taste" when it comes to graphics, but > 0 talent whatsoever! I would very much like to help the artwork team, if > only with some feedback (as my drawing and graphics skills in general really > suck) Well.. if you could cut my edits and make them work with gtkrc? if you could do that? > > [1]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/thetargos/Desktop/Nodoka-1.png Partly like it.. partly don't. i like the buttons :) > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Apr 3 10:52:02 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:52:02 +0300 Subject: [Fwd: Re: gdm login page look&feel] In-Reply-To: <1207218832.10686.3.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1207218183.11187.14.camel@frank-01> <1207218832.10686.3.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <47F4B6D2.4090407@nicubunu.ro> Martin Sourada wrote: > > We have nothing to do with it now... The new GDM AFAIK does not support > skins, but is plain gtk plus some gnome bits like wallpaper... > > So these concerns should be discussed rather with gdm devs than fedora > art people... There are a couple of things we can theme: - it has a logo, currently the Fedora logo is used (I believe the upstream vanilla version uses a computer icon); - the GTK+ window can be customized with Glade, just like the themed screen unlocker. AFAIK, the GDM screen is expected to make use of a window compositor, so it may get transparency and shadows by default, but this is still work in progress. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From martin.sourada at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 10:59:49 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 12:59:49 +0200 Subject: [Fwd: Re: gdm login page look&feel] In-Reply-To: <47F4B6D2.4090407@nicubunu.ro> References: <1207218183.11187.14.camel@frank-01> <1207218832.10686.3.camel@pc-notebook> <47F4B6D2.4090407@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1207220389.10686.7.camel@pc-notebook> On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 13:52 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > > > We have nothing to do with it now... The new GDM AFAIK does not support > > skins, but is plain gtk plus some gnome bits like wallpaper... > > > > So these concerns should be discussed rather with gdm devs than fedora > > art people... > > There are a couple of things we can theme: > - it has a logo, currently the Fedora logo is used (I believe the > upstream vanilla version uses a computer icon); Yeah, though this is not the concern of the original complain... I am perfectly fine both with the Fedora logo and computer icon... > - the GTK+ window can be customized with Glade, just like the themed > screen unlocker. > I always disliked the themed screen unlockers... plain gtk is just better in some cases... > AFAIK, the GDM screen is expected to make use of a window compositor, so > it may get transparency and shadows by default, but this is still work > in progress. > Compositor does not work everywhere, and will not for some time in the future, so I guess transparency and shadows are no go for F9 in default settings. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From brianhurren at yahoo.com Thu Apr 3 12:06:10 2008 From: brianhurren at yahoo.com (brian hurren) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 05:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <47F49A9C.8070104@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <459366.46325.qm@web51306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> what about twisted gears or impossible gears, something surreal? ie a cogg twisted into an infinity symbol. ( I can post an example tomorrow) Nicu Buculei wrote: Martin Sourada wrote: > > Me too, but the pictures posted before by Mo and others inspired me to > the idea of using gears as the main theme. Originally I thought it would > look interesting if we did something like ink-painted gears on papyrus > (or old looking paper), something that might look ancient but > time-resisting. However, quick search on flickr showed some other > interesting concepts: Or things like this (just don't ask me to draw like it): http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiousexpeditions/489992128/ Maybe simpler images: http://www.flickr.com/photos/blusky/94244310/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/blusky/94244314/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/41582768 at N00/229337994/ -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Or is this seen as undesirable? eg. http://littlethorpe.net/tptrn/images/175.jpg cf. http://intlstore.mozilla.org/ The Firefox branded goods look pretty cool IMHO. -Cam From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Apr 3 13:22:06 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:22:06 -0400 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <47F493E6.4050407@gmail.com> References: <1207027411.2179.0.camel@fedora> <47F381ED.3030706@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804020735n586f79f5xfd4a0607b243c770@mail.gmail.com> <47F3A00B.50909@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804020905l435545aete3f651414f5dda2f@mail.gmail.com> <47F48FA5.8080703@nicubunu.ro> <47F493E6.4050407@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F4D9FE.3030302@fedoraproject.org> Michael Beckwith wrote: > One thing I'm thinking of when I view these steampunk graphics, is that > it may take a lot of attention to detail to pull this off. However, I'm > new to this whole concept of steampunk so I may be wrong as well. Somewhere I have some high-res photos of Paddington Station in London from when I went to GUADEC last year. It's got a really interesting steampunky look and I bet the photo would be useful; we could create brushes or vectorize it and deconstruct it to come up with something cool. (This is what Paddington station looks like: http://www.essential-architecture.com/LO/022-Paddington_Station.jpg) When I get home tonight I'll look for the photo and send it. ~m From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Apr 3 13:23:38 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:23:38 -0400 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <459366.46325.qm@web51306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <459366.46325.qm@web51306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47F4DA5A.9030805@fedoraproject.org> brian hurren wrote: > what about twisted gears or impossible gears, something surreal? ie a > cogg twisted into an infinity symbol. ( I can post an example tomorrow) Sounds cool, I'd love to see it! ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Apr 3 13:28:59 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:28:59 +0300 Subject: Promotional items? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47F4DB9B.1080002@nicubunu.ro> Camilo Mesias wrote: > We've had posters, flyers, t-shirts, banners... what about things like > case stickers or usb disks? > > Is there a framework for working with commercial suppliers, where > artwork can be sanctioned and commercial agreements reached? I think > it would be interesting to see OSS promoted through branded goods. Or > is this seen as undesirable? We have tons of ideas and a SIG dedicated on the matter, but have not found a solution yet. See: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store The right place to talk about the store is the Marketing mailing list. > eg. http://littlethorpe.net/tptrn/images/175.jpg > > cf. http://intlstore.mozilla.org/ > > The Firefox branded goods look pretty cool IMHO. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From markg85 at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 14:54:56 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:54:56 +0200 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/3, Mark : > 2008/4/3, Gian Paolo Mureddu : > > > Mark escribi?: > > > > > Hey, > > > > > > i'm having some suggestions for nodoka in the next fedora version. > > > My general idea for fedora is to have the themes polished in F10. > > > Nodoka can do a lot to get that done. > > > > > > Oke for the first one. > > > When you hover a button or anything that's nodoka controlled like the > > > buttons: minimize, maximize and close. When you put your mouse on one > > > of them the image behind it is instantly changing to the hover state > > > (or something like it). My suggestion would be to make a effect of it. > > > Fade out the old one and simultaneously fade in the new image so that > > > you get some nice effects there. Also do this for every other thing > > > that has another state when it's selected, hovered etc. > > > > > > > > > > That is very interesting. One thing I've noticed, though, and since > > Metacity allows for that, is that if you change the order of the buttons > > (using gconf-editor), the properties of the buttons will be inherited by the > > new elements in their place. For example, I like to have the close and > > minimize buttons together at the upper left corner of the window, and the > > menu and maximize buttons on the right corner. The problem with the current > > implementation of the theme is that it "locks" the buttons to the right > > corner of the window and even though all effects are "inherited" when they > > are changed, the "highlight" around the buttons persists and is locked to > > the buttons on the right hand corner[1]. Maybe the first step would be to > > lock the highlight border to the properties of the buttons instead of a > > location in the title bar? (is this even possible in GTK? [or any other > > toolkit for that matter?]) > > > > > > > The second one is something i've requested before but never got in. > > > Theme the taskbar! fully theme it, not just change the colour but > > > really give it a theme. As far as i know this has never been done in > > > fedora. I will try to make a mockup of it sometime soon. > > > > > > > > > > This sounds VERY interesting indeed... It also opens all sorts of > > possibilities for themes... Like having both the lower and upper panes have > > different colors/combinations/highlights, etc. Make launcher icons stand out > > as buttons, give a glossy look (or not), etc. And have the lower panel (with > > the "Show Desktop", "Window List" "Recycle Bin" and "Desktop Pager" applets) > > a completely different, but complementary look than that of the upper panel. > > Have the Window List applet have its own properties so that (as some people > > do) if a user deletes one of the panels (to reclaim desktop pace, for > > instance) and moves the Window List to "the other" panel, these properties > > are retained and what not. > > > > I hope that by "glossy look" of the launcher buttons you don't mean to > have them with another background than the panel background! that > would not have my preference to say the least. But having it glossy > when hovering (like in vista/xp) is a nice idea to have! > > > > > > Third. > > > A while back i made a mockup of a themed notification message. the > > > current one looks kinda plain. The one i had made was one you all > > > seemed to like one way or the other but never got implemented. I will > > > try to find that mockup and post it again to see if this could find > > > it's way in Fedora 10. > > > > > > > > > > I don't remember seeing this one, and I would very much like to see it! > > > Look here later this day in probably about 4 hours. Found it back in the archives (MageFedoraTheme) this one gives a nice impression on what i thought at that time would look nice for notification balloons. http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/1475/kdebattlewip7ke4.png But NOW.. no. that's not really what i would like to see now in fedora.. now i would go for smaller color changes and probably less rounded (rounded but just a few pixels).. i can do it so much better now.. stay tuned for updates on this with the taskbar + the tooltips From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Apr 3 17:56:13 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:56:13 -0400 Subject: Fedora 10 Theme Idea - Analemma Message-ID: <47F51A3D.8020209@fedoraproject.org> Smooge sent this my way today: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap071002.html An Analemma is a picture of a sun's movement over the course of the year, which just happens to form an infinity symbol in the sky. More examples are linked from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analemma Thanks smooge for the awesome pointer! ~m From markg85 at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 18:08:40 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:08:40 +0200 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> Oke i made a mockup on the ones i intended to make. I've only made the bottom bar and the tooltip + a suggestion on the animation. Here it is: http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/6213/fedora10mockupdi2.png Critics? Comments? and most importand: is this possible in the current fedora? (bottom bar is but the tooltip?) From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Thu Apr 3 21:45:59 2008 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gian Paolo Mureddu) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:45:59 -0600 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> Message-ID: <47F55017.1050903@prodigy.net.mx> Wow... No that I look at your mockups the look on the F7 notification balloons reminded me of FC5-6 look. Nice, though. The ones for F9 look also very nice, and the important thing: the panel style for the taskbar panel looks really nice, now I'd wonder how would it look if the upper panel had also the same style (the main problem would be the menu bar inheriting the same style for consistency look. For the buttons I thought of something like the mouse-over hover effect you have in the taksbar buttons (for consistency's sake), in another (but consistent) color, if like. Now how to make this play nice with Nodoka? So that it all looks consistent? From markg85 at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 22:16:16 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 00:16:16 +0200 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <47F55017.1050903@prodigy.net.mx> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> <47F55017.1050903@prodigy.net.mx> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804031516v461cc4d1jbefc0cde43487b2d@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/3, Gian Paolo Mureddu : > Wow... No that I look at your mockups the look on the F7 notification > balloons reminded me of FC5-6 look. Nice, though. The ones for F9 look also > very nice, and the important thing: the panel style for the taskbar panel > looks really nice, now I'd wonder how would it look if the upper panel had > also the same style (the main problem would be the menu bar inheriting the > same style for consistency look. For the buttons I thought of something like > the mouse-over hover effect you have in the taksbar buttons (for > consistency's sake), in another (but consistent) color, if like. Now how to > make this play nice with Nodoka? So that it all looks consistent? A ton of questions.. I can answer the few that i know. "how would it look if the upper panel had also the same style" Well.. it would look good IF made good :) perhaps the reversed gradient of the one that you see at the bottom. "For the buttons" Well.. i will have to play with some colors there. It can't use the hover things that you see on the buttons in the bottom because the would look ugly. Perhaps a little in the style of KDE 4? "Now how to make this play nice with Nodoka?" don't know. Martin/Luya/Mo/anyone of the art team maybe? "So that it all looks consistent?" That's the most difficult part in a theme.. making the total image look good and not leave you with a feeling that something isn't right. Hope that answers it (mostly). From slaughter.dave at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 23:09:25 2008 From: slaughter.dave at gmail.com (Dave Slaughter) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:09:25 -0400 Subject: Themed Taskbar and buttons (glossy looks) In-Reply-To: <20080403125931.DCF72618B89@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20080403125931.DCF72618B89@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <47F563A5.7080500@gmail.com> >> >> >>> Hey, >>> >>> i'm having some suggestions for nodoka in the next fedora version. >>> My general idea for fedora is to have the themes polished in F10. >>> Nodoka can do a lot to get that done. >>> >>> Oke for the first one. >>> When you hover a button or anything that's nodoka controlled like the >>> buttons: minimize, maximize and close. When you put your mouse on one >>> of them the image behind it is instantly changing to the hover state >>> (or something like it). My suggestion would be to make a effect of it. >>> Fade out the old one and simultaneously fade in the new image so that >>> you get some nice effects there. Also do this for every other thing >>> that has another state when it's selected, hovered etc. >>> >>> >>> >> That is very interesting. One thing I've noticed, though, and since >> Metacity allows for that, is that if you change the order of the buttons >> (using gconf-editor), the properties of the buttons will be inherited by the >> new elements in their place. For example, I like to have the close and >> minimize buttons together at the upper left corner of the window, and the >> menu and maximize buttons on the right corner. The problem with the current >> implementation of the theme is that it "locks" the buttons to the right >> corner of the window and even though all effects are "inherited" when they >> are changed, the "highlight" around the buttons persists and is locked to >> the buttons on the right hand corner[1]. Maybe the first step would be to >> lock the highlight border to the properties of the buttons instead of a >> location in the title bar? (is this even possible in GTK? [or any other >> toolkit for that matter?]) >> >> >> >>> The second one is something i've requested before but never got in. >>> Theme the taskbar! fully theme it, not just change the colour but >>> really give it a theme. As far as i know this has never been done in >>> fedora. I will try to make a mockup of it sometime soon. >>> >>> >>> >> This sounds VERY interesting indeed... It also opens all sorts of >> possibilities for themes... Like having both the lower and upper panes have >> different colors/combinations/highlights, etc. Make launcher icons stand out >> as buttons, give a glossy look (or not), etc. And have the lower panel (with >> the "Show Desktop", "Window List" "Recycle Bin" and "Desktop Pager" applets) >> a completely different, but complementary look than that of the upper panel. >> Have the Window List applet have its own properties so that (as some people >> do) if a user deletes one of the panels (to reclaim desktop pace, for >> instance) and moves the Window List to "the other" panel, these properties >> are retained and what not. >> >> > I hope that by "glossy look" of the launcher buttons you don't mean to > have them with another background than the panel background! that > would not have my preference to say the least. But having it glossy > when hovering (like in vista/xp) is a nice idea to have! > >>> Third. >>> A while back i made a mockup of a themed notification message. the >>> current one looks kinda plain. The one i had made was one you all >>> seemed to like one way or the other but never got implemented. I will >>> try to find that mockup and post it again to see if this could find >>> it's way in Fedora 10. >>> >>> >>> I think that having a glossy look to buttons when you hover over them, even on the taskbar, ie: dropdown menus and such, is actually a great idea, I have used other distros ( and modified my own themes) to do just that, it lets you know for sure where your mouse pointer is, and adds that special touch to the look and feel that would really make Fedora great looking out of the box. While my css coding skills leave alot to be desired, the artwork side of it is pretty strait forward, just create the image, and then make a highlighted/glossy version to match for when it is hovered over. Maybe even make it animated, so when you hover, it kind of "wipes" the highlight over the button. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I just enjoy doing artwork, be it wallpapers, web >> banners, GDM's (just started on making those), or anything else. I just >> started using Fedora again, after not using a Red Hat based system since Red >> Hat 6, been using mostly Debian base OS's, but I am very pleased with F8, >> very nice, clean distro. >> I would like to start work with the art team and try to get involved >> in making artwork for Fedora, be it (as I stated above) wallpapers, GDMs, or >> anything else that may be of use to the team, and would also like to be a >> part of something that I believe is of great value, and try to give back to >> the Fedora community in some way, as my programing skills leave something to >> be desired. >> I will stop here and keep this short as not to take of too much of all >> of time. >> So hello everybody, and I look forward to working with you all of on >> whatever projects may be ahead. >> Sincerely, >> Dave S. >> > > Hi Dave, > > Welcome to the fedora art list! > It's great that you are willing to spend your time on improving the > look of fedora. > > Could you perhaps post some links to things you've made before? > and i'm really looking forward to the things you are making now for fedora. > > Thanx so far, > Mark > > I haven't made too much that I have put out for others, I have made some stuff and put it on Gnome-Look.org, most of it for a distro called LinuxMint, as that is the distro I have been using for the last year or so, you can see it here http://www.gnome-look.org/content/mycontent.php?PHPSESSID=98a828c786143b6c75224023a86ac45a Some of it I made when I first started making things for Linux, some things I thought just looked kind of cool, but I have never seriously worked on art for a product, so things I make for Fedora will be much cleaner and more polished. I'll try and get some stuff I made for myself posted somewhere so you can see what I can actually do, as the stuff on Gnome-Look is sometimes cartoonish. As for GTK themes, as I've said before, my coding skills are not so great, so I have not made any GTK themes as of yet, still looking for a good tutorial for learning that, but wallpapers, GDM's, web banners, and that sort of thing, I can do pretty well, (I think). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stlwrt at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 23:29:07 2008 From: stlwrt at gmail.com (Pavel Shevchuk) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 02:29:07 +0300 Subject: Introduction In-Reply-To: <47F56787.5080503@gmail.com> References: <20080403080821.C04D1618C4D@hormel.redhat.com> <47F56787.5080503@gmail.com> Message-ID: You should check URLs you're pasting ;) mycontent.php displays content of user logged in :D 2008/4/4 Dave Slaughter : > > > > > > r unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > Subject: Re: Introduction > > From: Mark > > 2008/4/3, dave slaughter : > > > First off I would like to thank Nicu Buculei for e-mailing me and > inviting me to join after I submitted my app, so thank you Nicu. > Now, I would like to introduce myself to the rest of the members, my > name is Dave, and I am from just outside Boston Mass. in the United States. > I have been using Linux for about 4-5 years now, and have been doing > computer graphic design for as long as I have been using computers, so since > the original apple II. I just enjoy doing artwork, be it wallpapers, web > banners, GDM's (just started on making those), or anything else. I just > started using Fedora again, after not using a Red Hat based system since Red > Hat 6, been using mostly Debian base OS's, but I am very pleased with F8, > very nice, clean distro. > I would like to start work with the art team and try to get involved > in making artwork for Fedora, be it (as I stated above) wallpapers, GDMs, or > anything else that may be of use to the team, and would also like to be a > part of something that I believe is of great value, and try to give back to > the Fedora community in some way, as my programing skills leave something to > be desired. > I will stop here and keep this short as not to take of too much of all > of time. > So hello everybody, and I look forward to working with you all of on > whatever projects may be ahead. > Sincerely, > Dave S. > > > Hi Dave, > > Welcome to the fedora art list! > It's great that you are willing to spend your time on improving the > look of fedora. > > Could you perhaps post some links to things you've made before? > and i'm really looking forward to the things you are making now for fedora. > > Thanx so far, > Mark > > > > > > I haven't made too much that I have put out for others, I have made some > stuff and put it on Gnome-Look.org, most of it for a distro called > LinuxMint, as that is the distro I have been using for the last year or so, > you can see it here > http://www.gnome-look.org/content/mycontent.php?PHPSESSID=98a828c786143b6c75224023a86ac45a > Some of it I made when I first started making things for Linux, some things > I thought just looked kind of cool, but I have never seriously worked on art > for a product, so things I make for Fedora will be much cleaner and more > polished. > I'll try and get some stuff I made for myself posted somewhere so you > can see what I can actually do, as the stuff on Gnome-Look is sometimes > cartoonish. > As for GTK themes, as I've said before, my coding skills are not so > great, so I have not made any GTK themes as of yet, still looking for a good > tutorial for learning that, but wallpapers, GDM's, web banners, and that > sort of thing, I can do pretty well, (I think). > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- http://scwlab.com From markg85 at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 01:27:23 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 03:27:23 +0200 Subject: Themed Taskbar and buttons (glossy looks) In-Reply-To: <47F563A5.7080500@gmail.com> References: <20080403125931.DCF72618B89@hormel.redhat.com> <47F563A5.7080500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804031827l1454b7e8n5d05a0d5d5fc890d@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/4, Dave Slaughter : > Hey, > > i'm having some suggestions for nodoka in the next fedora version. > My general idea for fedora is to have the themes polished in F10. > Nodoka can do a lot to get that done. > > Oke for the first one. > When you hover a button or anything that's nodoka controlled like the > buttons: minimize, maximize and close. When you put your mouse on one > of them the image behind it is instantly changing to the hover state > (or something like it). My suggestion would be to make a effect of it. > Fade out the old one and simultaneously fade in the new image so that > you get some nice effects there. Also do this for every other thing > that has another state when it's selected, hovered etc. > > > > That is very interesting. One thing I've noticed, though, and since > Metacity allows for that, is that if you change the order of the buttons > (using gconf-editor), the properties of the buttons will be inherited by the > new elements in their place. For example, I like to have the close and > minimize buttons together at the upper left corner of the window, and the > menu and maximize buttons on the right corner. The problem with the current > implementation of the theme is that it "locks" the buttons to the right > corner of the window and even though all effects are "inherited" when they > are changed, the "highlight" around the buttons persists and is locked to > the buttons on the right hand corner[1]. Maybe the first step would be to > lock the highlight border to the properties of the buttons instead of a > location in the title bar? (is this even possible in GTK? [or any other > toolkit for that matter?]) > > > > > The second one is something i've requested before but never got in. > Theme the taskbar! fully theme it, not just change the colour but > really give it a theme. As far as i know this has never been done in > fedora. I will try to make a mockup of it sometime soon. > > > > This sounds VERY interesting indeed... It also opens all sorts of > possibilities for themes... Like having both the lower and upper panes have > different colors/combinations/highlights, etc. Make launcher icons stand out > as buttons, give a glossy look (or not), etc. And have the lower panel (with > the "Show Desktop", "Window List" "Recycle Bin" and "Desktop Pager" applets) > a completely different, but complementary look than that of the upper panel. > Have the Window List applet have its own properties so that (as some people > do) if a user deletes one of the panels (to reclaim desktop pace, for > instance) and moves the Window List to "the other" panel, these properties > are retained and what not. > > > I hope that by "glossy look" of the launcher buttons you don't mean to > have them with another background than the panel background! that > would not have my preference to say the least. But having it glossy > when hovering (like in vista/xp) is a nice idea to have! > > > > Third. > A while back i made a mockup of a themed notification message. the > current one looks kinda plain. The one i had made was one you all > seemed to like one way or the other but never got implemented. I will > try to find that mockup and post it again to see if this could find > it's way in Fedora 10. > > > > I think that having a glossy look to buttons when you hover over them, even > on the taskbar, ie: dropdown menus and such, is actually a great idea, I > have used other distros ( and modified my own themes) to do just that, it > lets you know for sure where your mouse pointer is, and adds that special > touch to the look and feel that would really make Fedora great looking out > of the box. While my css coding skills leave alot to be desired, the artwork > side of it is pretty strait forward, just create the image, and then make a > highlighted/glossy version to match for when it is hovered over. Maybe even > make it animated, so when you hover, it kind of "wipes" the highlight over > the button. > All fine with me _except_ showing the glossy part when you don't hover those launcher buttons. Animating the stuff is something i would really like. And a (coding) suggestion on the animating. I think nodoka needs to interact with the X Composite extension. it's being loaded by default anyway and that even gives you true transparency on the vesa drivers. So instead of reinventing the wheel for those fade in and fade out effects just use composite instead. (i didn't check if nodoka is already doing this but i doubt that is the case ^_^) Package needed for that composite stuff: libXcomposite-devel (gdm should use it as well) From andyfitz at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 01:46:53 2008 From: andyfitz at gmail.com (Andy Fitzsimon) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 09:46:53 +0800 Subject: 9 swirls - another fedora 9 concept Message-ID: okay so I love the idea of growing flying high.. BUUUT What about our distro remixing culture? Simple: I was thinking I could draw on a torrent of waves Rationale: Fedora 9 is going to be doing a lot of things, for alot of different people, all at once. This potential should occupy the minds of our users. How do we involve it in our artwork? For us graphics geeks, fedora is a production studio .. for others, its a server, a workstation, a command centre, a directory server and a portal to the web ! Fedora 9 is what you make of it and we're still all working together, flooding in one direction. lets illustrate this unified effort through a wave.. a fierce body of water moving with such potential and momentum that it curls up in upon itself.. forming a 9 shape The metaphors for infinity and freedom still exist with large volumes of water... think the ocean lets play. ive attached a svg! ------------------ 9 is fine 9 is mine grab some wine, nine can rhyme -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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How do we involve > it in our artwork? > > For us graphics geeks, fedora is a production studio .. for others, > its a server, a workstation, a command centre, a directory server and > a portal to the web ! > Fedora 9 is what you make of it and we're still all working together, > flooding in one direction. > > > lets illustrate this unified effort through a wave.. a fierce body of > water moving with such potential and momentum that it curls up in upon > itself.. forming a 9 shape > > > The metaphors for infinity and freedom still exist with large volumes > of water... think the ocean > > lets play. > ive attached a svg! > > > ------------------ > 9 is fine 9 is mine > grab some wine, nine can rhyme > > _______________________________________________ > I may be able to do something with that SVG, maybe make a nice composite > blue background with some slightly differing shades of blue curves, kind of > looking like waves, with the Fedora name and logo in the bottom right corner > with a bit of a reflection under it. 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Comments? > and most importand: is this possible in the current fedora? (bottom > bar is but the tooltip?) The "tooltip" is drawn by notification-daemon. You can easily create a theme and include it. Then you need to edit notification-daemon's gconf schemes to use that theme by default. Ubuntu did this. They include yellow bubble. -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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They will not be that plain, will have an icon and a close button. And probably the text should be padded a bit, not so close to the borders. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Apr 4 06:32:19 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 09:32:19 +0300 Subject: Introduction In-Reply-To: References: <20080403080821.C04D1618C4D@hormel.redhat.com> <47F56787.5080503@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F5CB73.1030203@nicubunu.ro> Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > You should check URLs you're pasting ;) mycontent.php displays content > of user logged in :D Wow! gnome-look is really bad for such kind of linking... To see Dave's work go to http://www.gnome-look.org/content/search.php and search for "provided by: mclovin". > 2008/4/4 Dave Slaughter : >> >> I haven't made too much that I have put out for others, I have made some >> stuff and put it on Gnome-Look.org, most of it for a distro called >> LinuxMint, as that is the distro I have been using for the last year or so, >> you can see it here >> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/mycontent.php?PHPSESSID=98a828c786143b6c75224023a86ac45a -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From slaughter.dave at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 05:28:26 2008 From: slaughter.dave at gmail.com (dave slaughter) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 01:28:26 -0400 Subject: 2 Wallpaper trials for F9 (have to send in 2 parts) Message-ID: <16a54eb80804032228v75f760e1s817bb24f3f2d7fd1@mail.gmail.com> Ok, I have made 2 wallpapers, one using Andy's SVG, and one without, using that idea of a wave like look. 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Name: Fedora 9 wall trial 2.png Type: image/png Size: 846754 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Apr 4 08:42:09 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:12:09 +0530 Subject: 9 swirls - another fedora 9 concept In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47F5E9E1.4080302@fedoraproject.org> Andy Fitzsimon wrote: > okay so I love the idea of growing flying high.. BUUUT > > What about our distro remixing culture? > > Simple: I was thinking I could draw on a torrent of waves > > > Rationale: > > Fedora 9 is going to be doing a lot of things, for alot of different > people, all at once. > > This potential should occupy the minds of our users. How do we involve > it in our artwork? > > For us graphics geeks, fedora is a production studio .. for others, > its a server, a workstation, a command centre, a directory server and > a portal to the web ! > Fedora 9 is what you make of it and we're still all working together, > flooding in one direction. > > > lets illustrate this unified effort through a wave.. a fierce body of > water moving with such potential and momentum that it curls up in upon > itself.. forming a 9 shape > > > The metaphors for infinity and freedom still exist with large volumes > of water... think the ocean > > lets play. > ive attached a svg! This is cool. I like it a lot. Rahul From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 09:30:52 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:00:52 +0530 Subject: 9 swirls - another fedora 9 concept In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47F5F54C.8090406@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andy Fitzsimon wrote: | lets illustrate this unified effort through a wave.. a fierce body of | water moving with such potential and momentum that it curls up in upon | itself.. forming a 9 shape awesome-ness i like it :) - -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH9fVMXQZpNTcrCzMRAiCYAJoCxIJVAIfPvMBg7yIinSCEv9LkEgCdEUmv zdR5F8TbDF3kt4iJCdfYzOQ= =kgfo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From stlwrt at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 10:01:36 2008 From: stlwrt at gmail.com (Pavel Shevchuk) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:01:36 +0300 Subject: 9 swirls - another fedora 9 concept In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Very nice, A+++ 2008/4/4 Andy Fitzsimon : > okay so I love the idea of growing flying high.. BUUUT > > What about our distro remixing culture? > > Simple: I was thinking I could draw on a torrent of waves > > > Rationale: > > Fedora 9 is going to be doing a lot of things, for alot of different > people, all at once. > > This potential should occupy the minds of our users. How do we involve > it in our artwork? > > For us graphics geeks, fedora is a production studio .. for others, > its a server, a workstation, a command centre, a directory server and > a portal to the web ! > Fedora 9 is what you make of it and we're still all working together, > flooding in one direction. > > > lets illustrate this unified effort through a wave.. a fierce body of > water moving with such potential and momentum that it curls up in upon > itself.. forming a 9 shape > > > The metaphors for infinity and freedom still exist with large volumes > of water... think the ocean > > lets play. > ive attached a svg! > > > ------------------ > 9 is fine 9 is mine > grab some wine, nine can rhyme > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- http://scwlab.com From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Apr 4 10:08:14 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:08:14 +0300 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <1207212262.7344.5.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1207027411.2179.0.camel@fedora> <47F381ED.3030706@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804020735n586f79f5xfd4a0607b243c770@mail.gmail.com> <47F3A00B.50909@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804020905l435545aete3f651414f5dda2f@mail.gmail.com> <47F48FA5.8080703@nicubunu.ro> <47F493E6.4050407@gmail.com> <1207212262.7344.5.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <47F5FE0E.4090806@nicubunu.ro> Martin Sourada wrote: > > Me too, but the pictures posted before by Mo and others inspired me to > the idea of using gears as the main theme. 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There are two big no-go: - do not use text ("NINE") in the wallpaper, Fedora is a distribution used worldwide and the PNGs are not translatable; - we try to discourage the use of the logo in wallpapers to make the life easier for derivative distros. As a personal taste, I would like a less saturated blue, such a bright color distracts my attention and is tiresome after long use of the desktop. > This also gives you an idea of what I can do in a short amount of time. I send attachment too to the list, but please take care of the file size, you don't have to send a preview at 1600x1200px, a resized version is just as good to get an idea about it. Or a link is just as good (or better). If you don't have where to host files, consider using http://fedorapeople.org/ (now, as you are approved as a member of the "Art" group, you are allowed to use it). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Apr 4 10:35:09 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:05:09 +0530 Subject: Fedora 10 theme ideas In-Reply-To: <47F5FE0E.4090806@nicubunu.ro> References: <1207027411.2179.0.camel@fedora> <47F381ED.3030706@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804020735n586f79f5xfd4a0607b243c770@mail.gmail.com> <47F3A00B.50909@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804020905l435545aete3f651414f5dda2f@mail.gmail.com> <47F48FA5.8080703@nicubunu.ro> <47F493E6.4050407@gmail.com> <1207212262.7344.5.camel@pc-notebook> <47F5FE0E.4090806@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47F6045D.1030906@fedoraproject.org> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: >> >> Me too, but the pictures posted before by Mo and others inspired me to >> the idea of using gears as the main theme. Originally I thought it would >> look interesting if we did something like ink-painted gears on papyrus >> (or old looking paper), something that might look ancient but >> time-resisting. However, quick search on flickr showed some other >> interesting concepts: > > I played a bit with gears. Attached are two completely different > implementations (there is still *a lot* of room remaining for further > polishing) of the gear concept (loseless versions, sources available at > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/splash/). Nice but please drop the text. I am adding a new rule to the artwork page about this. Rahul From frankly3d at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 10:53:04 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:53:04 +0100 Subject: Fedora Mascot? Message-ID: <1207306384.10418.9.camel@frank-01> Object: Fae http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faerie Name: Dora Things to avoid, short clothing, too much bare skin resemblance to Disney, tinkeybell et all. 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While text has to be avoided in wallpapers, it is legit in other graphics (banners, buttons). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Apr 4 11:04:55 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:04:55 +0300 Subject: Fedora Mascot? In-Reply-To: <1207306384.10418.9.camel@frank-01> References: <1207306384.10418.9.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47F60B57.1000009@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > Object: Fae http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faerie > > Name: Dora Right place: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot Chance: low (in the paste people were not enthusiastic about a mascot) Me likes: maybe > Things to avoid, > short clothing, too much bare skin > resemblance to Disney, tinkeybell et all. > > Things to include, > some form of wand\stick. > > No sketch as yet. > > > Just a thought -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 11:46:10 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:46:10 +0200 Subject: Fedora Gears Theme [was: Re: Fedora 10 theme ideas] In-Reply-To: <47F5FE0E.4090806@nicubunu.ro> References: <1207027411.2179.0.camel@fedora> <47F381ED.3030706@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804020735n586f79f5xfd4a0607b243c770@mail.gmail.com> <47F3A00B.50909@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804020905l435545aete3f651414f5dda2f@mail.gmail.com> <47F48FA5.8080703@nicubunu.ro> <47F493E6.4050407@gmail.com> <1207212262.7344.5.camel@pc-notebook> <47F5FE0E.4090806@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1207309570.4468.6.camel@pc-notebook> On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 13:08 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > > > Me too, but the pictures posted before by Mo and others inspired me to > > the idea of using gears as the main theme. Originally I thought it would > > look interesting if we did something like ink-painted gears on papyrus > > (or old looking paper), something that might look ancient but > > time-resisting. However, quick search on flickr showed some other > > interesting concepts: > > I played a bit with gears. Attached are two completely different > implementations (there is still *a lot* of room remaining for further > polishing) of the gear concept (loseless versions, sources available at > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/splash/). > Great! The first one is more or less what I had in mind, but the second one is pretty too! Perhaps its about the right time to propose the Fedora Gears idea officially? Martin From markg85 at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 11:52:47 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:52:47 +0200 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <47F5BCB0.2060309@nicubunu.ro> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> <47F5BCB0.2060309@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804040452gdddf67ao28488b697273e2ac@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/4, Nicu Buculei : > Mark wrote: > > > Oke i made a mockup on the ones i intended to make. > > I've only made the bottom bar and the tooltip + a suggestion on the > animation. > > > > Here it is: > > > http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/6213/fedora10mockupdi2.png > > > > But this is not how the balloons will look in the end, right? They will not > be that plain, will have an icon and a close button. > And probably the text should be padded a bit, not so close to the borders. Your right! I forgot the close button but just didn't include the image in. As for the padding.. i think it should stay that "close" on the top.. the left is obviously gonna be moved about 100 pixels or so to make place for the image. I will see what i can do with it in the next mockup. I left out the round timer thing on purpose because i think those "balloons" should just vanish after a few (3 to 5) seconds. adding in a timer is nice but not needed and makes it look strange. They only need to go when the user isn't doing anything on the balloon, like holding the mouse on it, everything else == vanishing balloon. 2008/4/3, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek : > Dnia 2008-04-03, czw o godzinie 20:08 +0200, Mark pisze: > > The "tooltip" is drawn by notification-daemon. You can easily create a > theme and include it. Then you need to edit notification-daemon's gconf > schemes to use that theme by default. Ubuntu did this. They include > yellow bubble. > o it's EASY.. than you sure don't mind making a start for me :) If you can't do it then don say it's easy. As far as i know it (when i last looked at it) it was not a gtkrc file that you edit.. it was actually changing the source theme files to suit your needs. those are written in C and i don't know that yet! And even if i did then i still need to know how to work with GTK. Anyone that's willing to make a start with this.. go ahead! From duffy at fedoraproject.org Fri Apr 4 11:58:08 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 07:58:08 -0400 Subject: 9 swirls - another fedora 9 concept In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47F617D0.1050508@fedoraproject.org> Hi Andy, Andy Fitzsimon wrote: > okay so I love the idea of growing flying high.. BUUUT > > What about our distro remixing culture? > > Simple: I was thinking I could draw on a torrent of waves > > > Rationale: > > Fedora 9 is going to be doing a lot of things, for alot of different > people, all at once. > > This potential should occupy the minds of our users. How do we involve > it in our artwork? > > For us graphics geeks, fedora is a production studio .. for others, > its a server, a workstation, a command centre, a directory server and > a portal to the web ! > Fedora 9 is what you make of it and we're still all working together, > flooding in one direction. > > > lets illustrate this unified effort through a wave.. a fierce body of > water moving with such potential and momentum that it curls up in upon > itself.. forming a 9 shape > > > The metaphors for infinity and freedom still exist with large volumes > of water... think the ocean > > lets play. > ive attached a svg! this is really awesome looking! However I think it's a bit late :( We already have most of the artwork for F9 done and checked in, no small feat. :( ~m From markg85 at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 12:02:34 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:02:34 +0200 Subject: 2 Wallpaper trials for F9 (have to send in 2 parts) In-Reply-To: <16a54eb80804032230w2fcea60t94068a4512760167@mail.gmail.com> References: <16a54eb80804032230w2fcea60t94068a4512760167@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804040502i61fb3e68l66c615c879c57ed1@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/4, dave slaughter : > Here is the 2nd wall > This one without the logo and a little more in the mac style would be nice ^_^ The first wallpaper has some nice things but i wouldn't use it as a wallpaper. more like a CD/DVD cover From markg85 at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 12:11:41 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:11:41 +0200 Subject: Fedora Gears Theme [was: Re: Fedora 10 theme ideas] In-Reply-To: <1207309570.4468.6.camel@pc-notebook> References: <47F381ED.3030706@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804020735n586f79f5xfd4a0607b243c770@mail.gmail.com> <47F3A00B.50909@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804020905l435545aete3f651414f5dda2f@mail.gmail.com> <47F48FA5.8080703@nicubunu.ro> <47F493E6.4050407@gmail.com> <1207212262.7344.5.camel@pc-notebook> <47F5FE0E.4090806@nicubunu.ro> <1207309570.4468.6.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804040511g641551dao7fab5206035e327b@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/4, Martin Sourada : > On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 13:08 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > Martin Sourada wrote: > > > > > > Me too, but the pictures posted before by Mo and others inspired me to > > > the idea of using gears as the main theme. Originally I thought it would > > > look interesting if we did something like ink-painted gears on papyrus > > > (or old looking paper), something that might look ancient but > > > time-resisting. However, quick search on flickr showed some other > > > interesting concepts: > > > > I played a bit with gears. Attached are two completely different > > implementations (there is still *a lot* of room remaining for further > > polishing) of the gear concept (loseless versions, sources available at > > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/splash/). > > > > Great! The first one is more or less what I had in mind, but the second > one is pretty too! > > Perhaps its about the right time to propose the Fedora Gears idea > officially? > > Martin Hey, I like the idea as images but i doubt that it will fit a desktop theme.. (liked the neon suggestion more) just imagine if you have a wallpaper like that.. i would change it ASAP ^_^ This is again a very nice image for a cd/dvd cover. Also the wallpapers i've seen so far with this idea kinda let me thing of something old.. ancient.. not something innovative and new (like fedora). My suggestion would be to go for the neon theme. From markg85 at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 12:23:41 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:23:41 +0200 Subject: Introduction In-Reply-To: <47F5CB73.1030203@nicubunu.ro> References: <20080403080821.C04D1618C4D@hormel.redhat.com> <47F56787.5080503@gmail.com> <47F5CB73.1030203@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804040523h6527604n8ef53a4f1794c539@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/4, Nicu Buculei : > Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > > > You should check URLs you're pasting ;) mycontent.php displays content > > of user logged in :D > > > > Wow! gnome-look is really bad for such kind of linking... To see Dave's > work go to http://www.gnome-look.org/content/search.php and > search for "provided by: mclovin". Thanx for that suggestion, Nicu. @Dave WOW! you've made some nice things! I especially like the BSOD ^_^ But nearly everything on page 1 when searching is more than just nice Good job so far. From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 12:34:44 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:34:44 +0200 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1207312484.4468.24.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 21:10 +0200, Mark wrote: > Hey, > > i'm having some suggestions for nodoka in the next fedora version. > My general idea for fedora is to have the themes polished in F10. > Nodoka can do a lot to get that done. > > Oke for the first one. > When you hover a button or anything that's nodoka controlled like the > buttons: minimize, maximize and close. When you put your mouse on one > of them the image behind it is instantly changing to the hover state > (or something like it). My suggestion would be to make a effect of it. > Fade out the old one and simultaneously fade in the new image so that > you get some nice effects there. Also do this for every other thing > that has another state when it's selected, hovered etc. > AFAIK, metacity does not support it. Correct me if I'm wrong. It would possible to make these effects of these using Compiz' wm but I have no experience in this area and also compositing isn't currently working almost nowhere in rawhide (you know, intel is broken a little, and nvidia does not support the new Xorg yet). > The second one is something i've requested before but never got in. > Theme the taskbar! fully theme it, not just change the colour but > really give it a theme. As far as i know this has never been done in > fedora. I will try to make a mockup of it sometime soon. > I've replied on this one to you privately, but for others here's what I think: it's not as easy said as done. Mostly because there are applets supposed to be on panel, as well as notification area. Many of these are still 'broken' and display wrong if you use them on panel with different background than just filled with one colour (non-transparent). Martin From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Apr 4 12:38:54 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:38:54 +0300 Subject: [F10 theme proposal] Gears Round 1 Message-ID: <47F6215E.60503@nicubunu.ro> With a bit of impulse from Martin, here is the formal proposal for a F10 theme: Gears http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Gears The focus of this theme is technology: technology advancement is one of Fedora's main goals and gears are a classic metaphor for technology. A secondary message of the theme is "the golden era of Fedora": we are so confident in our distro that we think Fedora 10 is (will be) the distro marking the start of the golden age of Linux (and, of course, the best Fedora yet. The current implementation uses a steampunk look and feel, it is a good technology symbol, a large playing field for our imagination and also something quite original for a Linux desktop (for for any desktop). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From frankly3d at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 12:38:14 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:38:14 +0100 Subject: Fedora Gears Theme In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804040511g641551dao7fab5206035e327b@mail.gmail.com> References: <47F381ED.3030706@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804020735n586f79f5xfd4a0607b243c770@mail.gmail.com> <47F3A00B.50909@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804020905l435545aete3f651414f5dda2f@mail.gmail.com> <47F48FA5.8080703@nicubunu.ro> <47F493E6.4050407@gmail.com> <1207212262.7344.5.camel@pc-notebook> <47F5FE0E.4090806@nicubunu.ro> <1207309570.4468.6.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040511g641551dao7fab5206035e327b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1207312694.4025.0.camel@frank-01> On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 14:11 +0200, Mark wrote: > I like the idea as images but i doubt that it will fit a desktop > theme.. (liked the neon suggestion more) just imagine if you have a > wallpaper like that.. i would change it ASAP ^_^ Found it quite nice as is, but changed to blue, to me it appealed more. > This is again a very > nice image for a cd/dvd cover. Also the wallpapers i've seen so far > with this idea kinda let me thing of something old.. ancient.. not > something innovative and new (like fedora). > Not necessarily, with the changing attitude to "greener" things, clockwork, wind, water ect. are making a comeback Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 12:42:44 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:42:44 +0200 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> Message-ID: <1207312964.4468.30.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 18:01 -0600, Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote: > the new elements in their place. For example, I like to have the close > and minimize buttons together at the upper left corner of the window, > and the menu and maximize buttons on the right corner. The problem with > the current implementation of the theme is that it "locks" the buttons > to the right corner of the window and even though all effects are > "inherited" when they are changed, the "highlight" around the buttons > persists and is locked to the buttons on the right hand corner[1]. Maybe > the first step would be to lock the highlight border to the properties > of the buttons instead of a location in the title bar? (is this even > possible in GTK? [or any other toolkit for that matter?]) > It's Metacity not GTK we're talking about here. In rawhide this behaviour is already fixed. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=384031 > > The second one is something i've requested before but never got in. > > Theme the taskbar! fully theme it, not just change the colour but > > really give it a theme. As far as i know this has never been done in > > fedora. I will try to make a mockup of it sometime soon. > > > > This sounds VERY interesting indeed... It also opens all sorts of > possibilities for themes... Like having both the lower and upper panes > have different colors/combinations/highlights, etc. Make launcher icons > stand out as buttons, give a glossy look (or not), etc. And have the > lower panel (with the "Show Desktop", "Window List" "Recycle Bin" and > "Desktop Pager" applets) a completely different, but complementary look > than that of the upper panel. Have the Window List applet have its own > properties so that (as some people do) if a user deletes one of the > panels (to reclaim desktop pace, for instance) and moves the Window List > to "the other" panel, these properties are retained and what not. > Launcher icons stand out the same way as icons and will remain this way. Don't overdo things... Some of these suggestions are also rather fit for desktop list than for art list (as we care about desing and they care about default desktop settings). Martin From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Apr 4 12:48:20 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:48:20 +0300 Subject: Fedora Gears Theme [was: Re: Fedora 10 theme ideas] In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804040511g641551dao7fab5206035e327b@mail.gmail.com> References: <47F381ED.3030706@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804020735n586f79f5xfd4a0607b243c770@mail.gmail.com> <47F3A00B.50909@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804020905l435545aete3f651414f5dda2f@mail.gmail.com> <47F48FA5.8080703@nicubunu.ro> <47F493E6.4050407@gmail.com> <1207212262.7344.5.camel@pc-notebook> <47F5FE0E.4090806@nicubunu.ro> <1207309570.4468.6.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040511g641551dao7fab5206035e327b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F62394.3020007@nicubunu.ro> Mark wrote: > > I like the idea as images but i doubt that it will fit a desktop > theme.. (liked the neon suggestion more) just imagine if you have a > wallpaper like that.. i would change it ASAP ^_^ This is again a very > nice image for a cd/dvd cover. Also the wallpapers i've seen so far > with this idea kinda let me thing of something old.. ancient.. not > something innovative and new (like fedora). This is the reason of having some consecutive rounds, to see what works and what do not. As for looking ancient, isn't that the purpose of steampunk? > My suggestion would be to go for the neon theme. Then consider invited to make a formal submission. We will see in Round 1 and 2 which theme is better. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 12:49:51 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:49:51 +0200 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1207313391.4468.37.camel@pc-notebook> On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 20:08 +0200, Mark wrote: > Oke i made a mockup on the ones i intended to make. > I've only made the bottom bar and the tooltip + a suggestion on the animation. > > Here it is: > http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/6213/fedora10mockupdi2.png > > Critics? Comments? > and most importand: is this possible in the current fedora? (bottom > bar is but the tooltip?) > Transparency does not work without compositing which is still broken... As for the desing... The panel is too dark and does not fit the bright Nodoka theme we use as default. Also uses glossy look, which is inconsistent with nodoka. The toolip looks nice, might use more roundness in the corners, personally I'd use same as is set for the GTK widgets. The gradient could be used more consistently with Nodoka but the way it is now is OK. I'd perhaps make the "bubble-connector" asymmetric the current one looks a little strange. Would be good if you sketched a real-world notification like Package blahblah has been updated, or You have new message in your Inbox with icon, buttons, timer and left stripe included to see how the final design would look like. Martin From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Apr 4 12:57:40 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:27:40 +0530 Subject: [F10 theme proposal] Gears Round 1 In-Reply-To: <47F6215E.60503@nicubunu.ro> References: <47F6215E.60503@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47F625C4.9000801@fedoraproject.org> Nicu Buculei wrote: > With a bit of impulse from Martin, here is the formal proposal for a F10 > theme: Gears > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Gears > > The focus of this theme is technology: technology advancement is one of > Fedora's main goals and gears are a classic metaphor for technology. > A secondary message of the theme is "the golden era of Fedora": we are > so confident in our distro that we think Fedora 10 is (will be) the > distro marking the start of the golden age of Linux (and, of course, the > best Fedora yet. > > The current implementation uses a steampunk look and feel, it is a good > technology symbol, a large playing field for our imagination and also > something quite original for a Linux desktop (for for any desktop). Well Enlightenment as a desktop environment has been using gears as a symbol for a long time now. http://www.enlightenment.org/ Rahul From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Apr 4 13:06:31 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:06:31 +0300 Subject: [F10 theme proposal] Gears Round 1 In-Reply-To: <47F625C4.9000801@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F6215E.60503@nicubunu.ro> <47F625C4.9000801@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F627D7.7000608@nicubunu.ro> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: >> The current implementation uses a steampunk look and feel, it is a >> good technology symbol, a large playing field for our imagination and >> also something quite original for a Linux desktop (for for any desktop). > > Well Enlightenment as a desktop environment has been using gears as a > symbol for a long time now. OK, we may not be the firs, maybe exclude the "original" wird from the talk. BTW, those are gears or a sun? (sun -> light - > enlightenment) Do they use gears in desktop art? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Apr 4 13:09:14 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:09:14 +0300 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804040452gdddf67ao28488b697273e2ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> <47F5BCB0.2060309@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804040452gdddf67ao28488b697273e2ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F6287A.6020700@nicubunu.ro> Mark wrote: > > I left out the round timer thing on purpose because i think those > "balloons" should just vanish after a few (3 to 5) seconds. adding in > a timer is nice but not needed and makes it look strange. They only > need to go when the user isn't doing anything on the balloon, like > holding the mouse on it, everything else == vanishing balloon. While I am still in "steampunk" mode: how about some rotating gears as the timer, if we go with "Gears" [1] ? Or an ancient looking hourglass. [1] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Gears -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Apr 4 13:19:49 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:49:49 +0530 Subject: [F10 theme proposal] Gears Round 1 In-Reply-To: <47F627D7.7000608@nicubunu.ro> References: <47F6215E.60503@nicubunu.ro> <47F625C4.9000801@fedoraproject.org> <47F627D7.7000608@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47F62AF5.6050602@fedoraproject.org> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Nicu Buculei wrote: >>> The current implementation uses a steampunk look and feel, it is a >>> good technology symbol, a large playing field for our imagination and >>> also something quite original for a Linux desktop (for for any desktop). >> >> Well Enlightenment as a desktop environment has been using gears as a >> symbol for a long time now. > > OK, we may not be the firs, maybe exclude the "original" wird from the > talk. > > BTW, those are gears or a sun? (sun -> light - > enlightenment) Do they > use gears in desktop art? That seems to be right. They look somewhat similar but they probably denote sun rather than gears. Rahul From markg85 at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 13:33:55 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 15:33:55 +0200 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <1207313391.4468.37.camel@pc-notebook> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> <1207313391.4468.37.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804040633h4937e095nb7682fecc8894828@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/4, Martin Sourada : > On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 20:08 +0200, Mark wrote: > > Oke i made a mockup on the ones i intended to make. > > I've only made the bottom bar and the tooltip + a suggestion on the animation. > > > > Here it is: > > http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/6213/fedora10mockupdi2.png > > > > Critics? Comments? > > and most importand: is this possible in the current fedora? (bottom > > bar is but the tooltip?) > > > > > Transparency does not work without compositing which is still broken... > As for the desing... The panel is too dark and does not fit the bright > Nodoka theme we use as default. Also uses glossy look, which is > inconsistent with nodoka. The toolip looks nice, might use more > roundness in the corners, personally I'd use same as is set for the GTK > widgets. The gradient could be used more consistently with Nodoka but > the way it is now is OK. I'd perhaps make the "bubble-connector" > asymmetric the current one looks a little strange. You're right and wrong here. Right: - Compositing with Ati or Nvidia (anything except intel) isn't working Wrong: - the statement that compositing isn't working. Did you knew that KDE 4 uses the xorg composite extension? that means that compositing works on vesa as well! not fast but working. So compositing _can_ work if the creators of the notification deamon (and nodoka, you) invest some time to get it in then compositing is always working! which (to me) is worth the time.. but then again i'm not the person who is gonna break his head in implementing it. I will send in a bug report (RFE) for the notification-deamon. > > Would be good if you sketched a real-world notification like Package > blahblah has been updated, or You have new message in your Inbox with > icon, buttons, timer and left stripe included to see how the final > design would look like. I can make that. However i probably won't include that timer thing because i'm still making this with the assumption that the balloon vanishes after 3 till 5 seconds so i see no point in making it visible how long you have till the balloon vanishes. and for that left stripe.. i will see how i make that fit in. > > > Martin 2008/4/4, Nicu Buculei : > Mark wrote: > > > > > I left out the round timer thing on purpose because i think those > > "balloons" should just vanish after a few (3 to 5) seconds. adding in > > a timer is nice but not needed and makes it look strange. They only > > need to go when the user isn't doing anything on the balloon, like > > holding the mouse on it, everything else == vanishing balloon. > > > > While I am still in "steampunk" mode: how about some rotating gears as the > timer, if we go with "Gears" [1] ? Or an ancient looking hourglass. > I will probably leave the timer out till you/martin/anyone else convinced me of the use of that timer. It's a nice idea but i simply don't see it's advantage. > > [1] - > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Gears > Expect a new mockup here somewhere later today. From markg85 at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 14:20:17 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:20:17 +0200 Subject: Fedora Gears Theme [was: Re: Fedora 10 theme ideas] In-Reply-To: <47F62394.3020007@nicubunu.ro> References: <47F3A00B.50909@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804020905l435545aete3f651414f5dda2f@mail.gmail.com> <47F48FA5.8080703@nicubunu.ro> <47F493E6.4050407@gmail.com> <1207212262.7344.5.camel@pc-notebook> <47F5FE0E.4090806@nicubunu.ro> <1207309570.4468.6.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040511g641551dao7fab5206035e327b@mail.gmail.com> <47F62394.3020007@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804040720m7c27c48fx7011c068fc6d0c0e@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/4, Nicu Buculei : > Mark wrote: > > > > > I like the idea as images but i doubt that it will fit a desktop > > theme.. (liked the neon suggestion more) just imagine if you have a > > wallpaper like that.. i would change it ASAP ^_^ This is again a very > > nice image for a cd/dvd cover. Also the wallpapers i've seen so far > > with this idea kinda let me thing of something old.. ancient.. not > > something innovative and new (like fedora). > > > > This is the reason of having some consecutive rounds, to see what works and > what do not. > As for looking ancient, isn't that the purpose of steampunk? > Yea it fits that steampunk stuff.. but does fedora want to look old? Don't get me wrong. i like the idea ^_^ > > > My suggestion would be to go for the neon theme. > > > > Then consider invited to make a formal submission. We will see in Round 1 > and 2 which theme is better. Perhaps. don't count on it. i think i stick with making suggestion on how to let the current theme look polished. > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 14:27:48 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:27:48 +0200 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804040633h4937e095nb7682fecc8894828@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> <1207313391.4468.37.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040633h4937e095nb7682fecc8894828@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1207319269.4468.59.camel@pc-notebook> On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 15:33 +0200, Mark wrote: > You're right and wrong here. > > Right: > - Compositing with Ati or Nvidia (anything except intel) isn't working > It isn't working on intel either (in rawhide). Compiz freezes ui, metacity with compositing turned on breaks many things. I don't know any other compositing capable managers that work with gnome. > Wrong: > - the statement that compositing isn't working. > > Did you knew that KDE 4 uses the xorg composite extension? that means > that compositing works on vesa as well! not fast but working. So > compositing _can_ work if the creators of the notification deamon (and > nodoka, you) invest some time to get it in then compositing is always > working! which (to me) is worth the time.. but then again i'm not the > person who is gonna break his head in implementing it. I will send in > a bug report (RFE) for the notification-deamon. > Not fast is not an option. Either working fast (and stable) or it is not acceptable as default. Also, AFAIK, whether the compositing is turned on or not depends on window manager (in our case metacity), not gtk or even theme engine. > > > > Would be good if you sketched a real-world notification like Package > > blahblah has been updated, or You have new message in your Inbox with > > icon, buttons, timer and left stripe included to see how the final > > design would look like. > > I can make that. However i probably won't include that timer thing > because i'm still making this with the assumption that the balloon > vanishes after 3 till 5 seconds so i see no point in making it visible > how long you have till the balloon vanishes. and for that left > stripe.. i will see how i make that fit in. > Not all balloons are here for only 5 seconds. It's not unusual to have it on for about 15 or more seconds. Martin From markg85 at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 16:00:07 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 18:00:07 +0200 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <1207319269.4468.59.camel@pc-notebook> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> <1207313391.4468.37.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040633h4937e095nb7682fecc8894828@mail.gmail.com> <1207319269.4468.59.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804040900p6fd1fca1m24f7806ee6b50d37@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/4, Martin Sourada : > On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 15:33 +0200, Mark wrote: > > > You're right and wrong here. > > > > Right: > > - Compositing with Ati or Nvidia (anything except intel) isn't working > > > > It isn't working on intel either (in rawhide). Compiz freezes ui, > metacity with compositing turned on breaks many things. I don't know any > other compositing capable managers that work with gnome. > O that.. last time i tried it it seemed to work.. had some issues, yes but didn't crash. > > > Wrong: > > - the statement that compositing isn't working. > > > > Did you knew that KDE 4 uses the xorg composite extension? that means > > that compositing works on vesa as well! not fast but working. So > > compositing _can_ work if the creators of the notification deamon (and > > nodoka, you) invest some time to get it in then compositing is always > > working! which (to me) is worth the time.. but then again i'm not the > > person who is gonna break his head in implementing it. I will send in > > a bug report (RFE) for the notification-deamon. > > > > Not fast is not an option. Either working fast (and stable) or it is not > acceptable as default. Also, AFAIK, whether the compositing is turned on > or not depends on window manager (in our case metacity), not gtk or even > theme engine. > Ehm.. that "not fast" is on VESA only. and the current fedora rawhide only works with vesa unless you have an open and supported driver (intel). When you have fast hardware rendering support (aka a working driver) than that XComposite suddenly becomes fast. If KDE can use it for there awsome desktop (not using it btw because it feels buggy) than it certainly is good enough for gnome. I suggest you take a look at KDE 4. > > > > > > > Would be good if you sketched a real-world notification like Package > > > blahblah has been updated, or You have new message in your Inbox with > > > icon, buttons, timer and left stripe included to see how the final > > > design would look like. > > > > I can make that. However i probably won't include that timer thing > > because i'm still making this with the assumption that the balloon > > vanishes after 3 till 5 seconds so i see no point in making it visible > > how long you have till the balloon vanishes. and for that left > > stripe.. i will see how i make that fit in. > > > > Not all balloons are here for only 5 seconds. It's not unusual to have > it on for about 15 or more seconds. > Yea i noticed with some balloons... and that's a irritating issue. A balloon should: 1. Say what it has to say 2. Show it the user for a few seconds 3. than get out of there asap! > > Martin > And i have a nice update on the mockup. Changelog - bottom bar fully adjusted to fit the nodoka theme - notification balloon content is greadly adjusted with a real world scenario (asymetric thing not solved yet) - - Added close image in the balloon - - added orange bar (nice style and can be any colour) - - added a image of the updates (64x64 fits nicely there) - - played with font sized and bold - added the desktop image to the bottom bar (men that image just doesn't fit that style) - Changed the bottom bar buttons - - Made them a bit lighter - - Made the effects a little more "glowy/glossy" And you can see the changes in the image here: http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3089/fedora10mockupv02nf6.png To me it looks really nice now! Hope you think the same. From markg85 at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 16:02:47 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 18:02:47 +0200 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804040900p6fd1fca1m24f7806ee6b50d37@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> <1207313391.4468.37.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040633h4937e095nb7682fecc8894828@mail.gmail.com> <1207319269.4468.59.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040900p6fd1fca1m24f7806ee6b50d37@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804040902ob2251a5pe8f3795a52e0e1c7@mail.gmail.com> > Changelog > - bottom bar fully adjusted to fit the nodoka theme > - notification balloon content is greadly adjusted with a real world > scenario (asymetric thing not solved yet) > - - Added close image in the balloon > - - added orange bar (nice style and can be any colour) > - - added a image of the updates (64x64 fits nicely there) > - - played with font sized and bold > - added the desktop image to the bottom bar (men that image just > doesn't fit that style) > - Changed the bottom bar buttons > - - Made them a bit lighter > - - Made the effects a little more "glowy/glossy" > Forgot to add: in the balloon the text and the update image is at 100% visible the rest of the balloon is at 90% And this seems to fit really nice. From johannbg at hi.is Fri Apr 4 16:47:07 2008 From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:47:07 +0000 Subject: A wallpaper material or what.. Message-ID: <47F65B8B.2020301@hi.is> I think this picture I took could be great addon to fedora's wallpaper set.. It actually goes very well with the nodoka theme.. http://www.hi.is/~johannbg/icelandic-horse.jpg So what the procedure add it to the wallpaper collection. and needed/wanted resolutions.. ( 800x600, 1024x768,1600x1200,1440x900,1680x1050x 1920x1200,2560x1600 ) Here's a potential avatar material ( needs of course be resized ) Best regards Johann B. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(2) Tshirt art. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt There were two nice t-shirt designs on this page for FUDCon shirts. Does the art team favor one over the other, or consider one of those designs "final"? We'd like to begin the t-shirt pricing process. Thanks! --Max From duffy at fedoraproject.org Fri Apr 4 17:23:55 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:23:55 -0400 Subject: FUDCon Boston Artwork In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47F6642B.80105@fedoraproject.org> Max Spevack wrote: > Hi fedora-art-list: > > A couple of loose ends regarding artwork for FUDCon Boston (along side > the Red Hat Summit) that I wanted to try to get some closure on. > > Cc: Kristin Nordstrom and Mary Bitter, who are helping with FUDCon from > the RH internal side. > > (1) Overall FUDCon Boston 2008 logo. > > There were some generic FUDCon logo designs in the tshirt design > process, which I thought looked great. We're going to probably want to > make some large posters (flip-chart sized, though I don't have the exact > dimensions yet) with that logo on it, so if we could get a finalized > logo for FUDCon Boston 2008, that would be great. Sure, attached. > > (2) Tshirt art. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt > > There were two nice t-shirt designs on this page for FUDCon shirts. Does > the art team favor one over the other, or consider one of those designs > "final"? We'd like to begin the t-shirt pricing process. I think the one with the pru in it (design #1) is better. You could consider it final I think. The only concern is that it's derived from a Attribution-Noncommercial 2.0 Generic photo. Is that okay? If not I can probably go out and shoot some photos of the skyline and redo this weekend. ~m -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I must confess that I don't read fedora-art-list very often, and all I see is the outputs that come from the team, but everything always looks great, and even more important, it's done in a community-led and collaborative way. --Max From kranuja at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 18:24:22 2008 From: kranuja at gmail.com (Anuja KR) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 23:54:22 +0530 Subject: 2 Wallpaper trials for F9 (have to send in 2 parts) In-Reply-To: <16a54eb80804032228v75f760e1s817bb24f3f2d7fd1@mail.gmail.com> References: <16a54eb80804032228v75f760e1s817bb24f3f2d7fd1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <98b358090804041124u56d5e601t7aa1ec79d088ac10@mail.gmail.com> Hi fedora 9 wall paper 2. is looking good than the wall paper 1. but the fedora logo is not visible, I think bright white lettering may look emphatic. Second point is the blue shade is not the usual blue shade used in Fedora wall papers/ backgrounds. anuja 2008/4/4 dave slaughter : > Ok, I have made 2 wallpapers, one using Andy's SVG, and one without, > using that idea of a wave like look. These are just rough workups, not > complete works, just something to give you an idea of what I was thinking in > going with Andy's idea. Please give me input on your thoughts, and what > could be changed or fixed. > > This also gives you an idea of what I can do in a short amount of time. > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From duffy at fedoraproject.org Fri Apr 4 18:29:33 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:29:33 -0400 Subject: 2 Wallpaper trials for F9 (have to send in 2 parts) In-Reply-To: <16a54eb80804032228v75f760e1s817bb24f3f2d7fd1@mail.gmail.com> References: <16a54eb80804032228v75f760e1s817bb24f3f2d7fd1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F6738D.6010608@fedoraproject.org> Hi Dave, dave slaughter wrote: > Ok, I have made 2 wallpapers, one using Andy's SVG, and one without, > using that idea of a wave like look. These are just rough workups, not > complete works, just something to give you an idea of what I was > thinking in going with Andy's idea. Please give me input on your > thoughts, and what could be changed or fixed. As I said earlier (if anyone disagrees please speak up, maybe I am alone in this) I think it's far too late in the F9 process to start changing the graphics - we've already completed all of the core graphics for F9 and had them checked into rawhide. This week was the devel freeze for F9 IIRC and it will already be a scramble to get revisions into what we have in as we get feedback on it. To bring a new idea/concept into what we already have I think is too disruptive at this point in the release process, but refinements on the current designs are certainly welcomed. And of course mockups for F10 at this point are very much appreciated! :) ~m From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Fri Apr 4 18:29:51 2008 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gian Paolo Mureddu) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:29:51 -0600 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <47F6287A.6020700@nicubunu.ro> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> <47F5BCB0.2060309@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804040452gdddf67ao28488b697273e2ac@mail.gmail.com> <47F6287A.6020700@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47F6739F.9060205@prodigy.net.mx> Nicu Buculei escribi?: > Mark wrote: >> >> I left out the round timer thing on purpose because i think those >> "balloons" should just vanish after a few (3 to 5) seconds. adding in >> a timer is nice but not needed and makes it look strange. They only >> need to go when the user isn't doing anything on the balloon, like >> holding the mouse on it, everything else == vanishing balloon. > > While I am still in "steampunk" mode: how about some rotating gears as > the timer, if we go with "Gears" [1] ? Or an ancient looking hourglass. > > > [1] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Gears > Those images look very nice, Nicu!! "Clockwork Fedora"? (pun intended to the emblematic movie of the 70's Clockwork Orange) From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Fri Apr 4 18:40:13 2008 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gian Paolo Mureddu) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:40:13 -0600 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804040900p6fd1fca1m24f7806ee6b50d37@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> <1207313391.4468.37.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040633h4937e095nb7682fecc8894828@mail.gmail.com> <1207319269.4468.59.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040900p6fd1fca1m24f7806ee6b50d37@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F6760D.9010405@prodigy.net.mx> Mark escribi?: > And i have a nice update on the mockup. > > Changelog > - bottom bar fully adjusted to fit the nodoka theme > - notification balloon content is greadly adjusted with a real world > scenario (asymetric thing not solved yet) > - - Added close image in the balloon > - - added orange bar (nice style and can be any colour) > - - added a image of the updates (64x64 fits nicely there) > - - played with font sized and bold > - added the desktop image to the bottom bar (men that image just > doesn't fit that style) > - Changed the bottom bar buttons > - - Made them a bit lighter > - - Made the effects a little more "glowy/glossy" > > And you can see the changes in the image here: > http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3089/fedora10mockupv02nf6.png > > To me it looks really nice now! Hope you think the same. > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > Looks really nice, Mark! Shouldn't the notification balloon "emerge" from its icon in the notification area? (i.e upper panel) From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Fri Apr 4 18:54:39 2008 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gian Paolo Mureddu) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:54:39 -0600 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <1207312484.4468.24.camel@pc-notebook> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <1207312484.4468.24.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <47F6796F.4010304@prodigy.net.mx> Martin Sourada escribi?: > On Wed, 2008-04-02 at 21:10 +0200, Mark wrote: > >> Hey, >> >> i'm having some suggestions for nodoka in the next fedora version. >> My general idea for fedora is to have the themes polished in F10. >> Nodoka can do a lot to get that done. >> >> Oke for the first one. >> When you hover a button or anything that's nodoka controlled like the >> buttons: minimize, maximize and close. When you put your mouse on one >> of them the image behind it is instantly changing to the hover state >> (or something like it). My suggestion would be to make a effect of it. >> Fade out the old one and simultaneously fade in the new image so that >> you get some nice effects there. Also do this for every other thing >> that has another state when it's selected, hovered etc. >> >> > AFAIK, metacity does not support it. Correct me if I'm wrong. It would > possible to make these effects of these using Compiz' wm but I have no > experience in this area and also compositing isn't currently working > almost nowhere in rawhide (you know, intel is broken a little, and > nvidia does not support the new Xorg yet). > As far as I know composite can work with 2D only drivers like VESA. IIRC xcompmgr wasn't particularly slow (though very unstable). I'm not familiar with the implementation of the Composite extension of Metacity, or what effects are possible with it. I however am more familiar with the implementation of XFWM4, and it is lightweight enough to be used with 2D only drivers such as 2D-only radeon drivers on R500 hardware (or radeonhd drivers) as well as VESA, with very decent a performance. But this isn't a discussion for the art-list, but for -devel and maybe Desktop. Just wanted to point out that you can have composite enabled by default with 2D-only drivers and have good performance. From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Apr 4 19:04:22 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 15:04:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FUDCon Boston Artwork In-Reply-To: <47F6642B.80105@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F6642B.80105@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > I think the one with the pru in it (design #1) is better. You could > consider it final I think. The only concern is that it's derived from > a Attribution-Noncommercial 2.0 Generic photo. Is that okay? If not I > can probably go out and shoot some photos of the skyline and redo this > weekend. http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/ So we're not going to sell the shirts and admission to FUDCon is free, which means that it's not "commercial". As for the "attribution" clause, I suppose we could include a link to the original on the bottom of the tshirt. http://www.flickr.com/photos/b-tal/193801686/ Thoughts? --Max From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Apr 4 19:16:26 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 00:46:26 +0530 Subject: FUDCon Boston Artwork In-Reply-To: References: <47F6642B.80105@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F67E8A.8050200@fedoraproject.org> Max Spevack wrote: > On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> I think the one with the pru in it (design #1) is better. You could >> consider it final I think. The only concern is that it's derived from >> a Attribution-Noncommercial 2.0 Generic photo. Is that okay? If not I >> can probably go out and shoot some photos of the skyline and redo this >> weekend. > > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/ > > So we're not going to sell the shirts and admission to FUDCon is free, > which means that it's not "commercial". Well the "non-commercial" clause in the CC licenses are problematic for various reasons including the issue of defining what exactly is considered commercial activity. I think using a different picture that allows commercial activity is better. Rahul From markg85 at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 19:18:21 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 21:18:21 +0200 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <47F6760D.9010405@prodigy.net.mx> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> <1207313391.4468.37.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040633h4937e095nb7682fecc8894828@mail.gmail.com> <1207319269.4468.59.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040900p6fd1fca1m24f7806ee6b50d37@mail.gmail.com> <47F6760D.9010405@prodigy.net.mx> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804041218m3f9cd074o530168b57feb2e03@mail.gmail.com> > Looks really nice, Mark! Shouldn't the notification balloon "emerge" from > its icon in the notification area? (i.e upper panel) > you're right on that one but then i have to change the direction of that arrow like thing... bla bla bla you get the idea with this image as well ^_^ From duffy at fedoraproject.org Fri Apr 4 19:19:55 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:19:55 -0400 Subject: FUDCon Boston Artwork In-Reply-To: <47F67E8A.8050200@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F6642B.80105@fedoraproject.org> <47F67E8A.8050200@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F67F5B.8040307@fedoraproject.org> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Max Spevack wrote: >> On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> >>> I think the one with the pru in it (design #1) is better. You could >>> consider it final I think. The only concern is that it's derived from >>> a Attribution-Noncommercial 2.0 Generic photo. Is that okay? If not I >>> can probably go out and shoot some photos of the skyline and redo >>> this weekend. >> >> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/ >> >> So we're not going to sell the shirts and admission to FUDCon is free, >> which means that it's not "commercial". > > Well the "non-commercial" clause in the CC licenses are problematic for > various reasons including the issue of defining what exactly is > considered commercial activity. I think using a different picture that > allows commercial activity is better. but it is just a tshirt right? and they're not going to be sold... I can ask the photographer? ~m From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Apr 4 19:31:14 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 01:01:14 +0530 Subject: FUDCon Boston Artwork In-Reply-To: <47F67F5B.8040307@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F6642B.80105@fedoraproject.org> <47F67E8A.8050200@fedoraproject.org> <47F67F5B.8040307@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F68202.3060000@fedoraproject.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Max Spevack wrote: >>> On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >>> >>>> I think the one with the pru in it (design #1) is better. You could >>>> consider it final I think. The only concern is that it's derived >>>> from a Attribution-Noncommercial 2.0 Generic photo. Is that okay? If >>>> not I can probably go out and shoot some photos of the skyline and >>>> redo this weekend. >>> >>> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/ >>> >>> So we're not going to sell the shirts and admission to FUDCon is >>> free, which means that it's not "commercial". >> >> Well the "non-commercial" clause in the CC licenses are problematic >> for various reasons including the issue of defining what exactly is >> considered commercial activity. I think using a different picture that >> allows commercial activity is better. > > but it is just a tshirt right? and they're not going to be sold... I understand that but the license clauses might not and when there is ambiguity, licensee intend matters a lot which we do not know about. > > I can ask the photographer? Ironically that was one of those CC licenses was meant to avoid but go ahead. If we get a explicit permission, that is always safer. Thanks. Rahul From slaughter.dave at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 20:37:08 2008 From: slaughter.dave at gmail.com (Dave Slaughter) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:37:08 -0400 Subject: T-Shirt artwork In-Reply-To: <20080404191545.E9BE48E00CD@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20080404191545.E9BE48E00CD@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <47F69174.3020302@gmail.com> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Max Spevack wrote: >> On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> >>> I think the one with the pru in it (design #1) is better. You could >>> consider it final I think. The only concern is that it's derived >>> from a Attribution-Noncommercial 2.0 Generic photo. Is that okay? If >>> not I can probably go out and shoot some photos of the skyline and >>> redo this weekend. >> >> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/ >> >> So we're not going to sell the shirts and admission to FUDCon is >> free, which means that it's not "commercial". > > Well the "non-commercial" clause in the CC licenses are problematic > for various reasons including the issue of defining what exactly is > considered commercial activity. I think using a different picture that > allows commercial activity is better. > > Rahul > > > If pics of Boston and surounding ares is need, I can easily shoot in take some pics, I live about 15 miles south of the city, so it only takes about 1/2 an hour to get there, and I could go and take a bunch of shots from all over the city if you guys would like. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <00ed01c896a8$fbb58ab0$f320a010$@net> References: <1207306384.10418.9.camel@frank-01> <00ed01c896a8$fbb58ab0$f320a010$@net> Message-ID: I don't support state of completeness. Free Software is movement, Fedora is project in motion. Stopping and beholding perfectness is not what i expect from developers, being one of them. On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 2:09 AM, David wrote: > Since this is the release of 10, what about the idea of perfection... > > Perfection is, broadly, a state of completeness and flawlessness. > > What about if we were able to encompase the idea that fedora is the > "perfect" O.S for NIX users. What other items are "perfect" for each other. > Maybe we can use those as inspiration. Just a thought. Seamless lines, > perfect curves, fluidness, and gliding are words that come to mind when I > think perfect. Something Pure. Maybe reflective .. and other idea's? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- http://scwlab.com From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 23:22:31 2008 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:22:31 -0500 Subject: Fedora Mascot? In-Reply-To: <00ed01c896a8$fbb58ab0$f320a010$@net> References: <1207306384.10418.9.camel@frank-01> <00ed01c896a8$fbb58ab0$f320a010$@net> Message-ID: <47F6B837.70702@gmail.com> I don't think Fedora will ever be "Perfect" given the fact that we're always "on the edge" and installing potentially unstable software. It's the price you pay to push innovation. David wrote: > Since this is the release of 10, what about the idea of perfection... > > Perfection is, broadly, a state of completeness and flawlessness. > > What about if we were able to encompase the idea that fedora is the > "perfect" O.S for NIX users. What other items are "perfect" for each other. > Maybe we can use those as inspiration. Just a thought. Seamless lines, > perfect curves, fluidness, and gliding are words that come to mind when I > think perfect. Something Pure. Maybe reflective .. and other idea's? > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From dchurch at eatel.net Fri Apr 4 23:23:55 2008 From: dchurch at eatel.net (David) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 18:23:55 -0500 Subject: Fedora Mascot? In-Reply-To: References: <1207306384.10418.9.camel@frank-01> <00ed01c896a8$fbb58ab0$f320a010$@net> Message-ID: <00ee01c896aa$f3aa9a70$daffcf50$@net> "Perfection is, broadly, a state of completeness and flawlessness"- Is a definition not a concept. The idea of 10 being what many view as the perfect score. A circle is perfect in every aspect. It can represent unity and continuation. I hope that the idea is merely viewed as that an idea to base inspiration. I understand that Fedora is a continuous work in progress, but it can also be displayed as better than the rest. Thanks for your feed back. -----Original Message----- From: fedora-art-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-art-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Pavel Shevchuk Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:15 PM To: Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers. Subject: Re: Fedora Mascot? I don't support state of completeness. Free Software is movement, Fedora is project in motion. Stopping and beholding perfectness is not what i expect from developers, being one of them. On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 2:09 AM, David wrote: > Since this is the release of 10, what about the idea of perfection... > > Perfection is, broadly, a state of completeness and flawlessness. > > What about if we were able to encompase the idea that fedora is the > "perfect" O.S for NIX users. What other items are "perfect" for each other. > Maybe we can use those as inspiration. Just a thought. Seamless lines, > perfect curves, fluidness, and gliding are words that come to mind when I > think perfect. Something Pure. Maybe reflective .. and other idea's? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- http://scwlab.com _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list From brianhurren at yahoo.com Sat Apr 5 04:19:28 2008 From: brianhurren at yahoo.com (brian hurren) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 21:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fedora Mascot? In-Reply-To: <00ee01c896aa$f3aa9a70$daffcf50$@net> Message-ID: <525891.38237.qm@web51304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> fedora as a state in motion. that is a good idea. Talking heads ' houses in motion' what is in a constant state of motion? David wrote: "Perfection is, broadly, a state of completeness and flawlessness"- Is a definition not a concept. The idea of 10 being what many view as the perfect score. A circle is perfect in every aspect. It can represent unity and continuation. I hope that the idea is merely viewed as that an idea to base inspiration. I understand that Fedora is a continuous work in progress, but it can also be displayed as better than the rest. Thanks for your feed back. -----Original Message----- From: fedora-art-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-art-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of Pavel Shevchuk Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 6:15 PM To: Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers. Subject: Re: Fedora Mascot? I don't support state of completeness. Free Software is movement, Fedora is project in motion. Stopping and beholding perfectness is not what i expect from developers, being one of them. On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 2:09 AM, David wrote: > Since this is the release of 10, what about the idea of perfection... > > Perfection is, broadly, a state of completeness and flawlessness. > > What about if we were able to encompase the idea that fedora is the > "perfect" O.S for NIX users. What other items are "perfect" for each other. > Maybe we can use those as inspiration. Just a thought. Seamless lines, > perfect curves, fluidness, and gliding are words that come to mind when I > think perfect. Something Pure. Maybe reflective .. and other idea's? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- http://scwlab.com _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brianhurren at yahoo.com Sat Apr 5 04:25:32 2008 From: brianhurren at yahoo.com (brian hurren) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 21:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fedora Mascot? In-Reply-To: <00ed01c896a8$fbb58ab0$f320a010$@net> Message-ID: <949201.79401.qm@web51303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> There is another interpretation for the number 10. In the bible it represents 'all' or 'everyone' or 'everything' so where it says ten kings it means all of the kings ect. maybe fedora ten is for 'everyone' the peoples operating system. David wrote: Since this is the release of 10, what about the idea of perfection... Perfection is, broadly, a state of completeness and flawlessness. What about if we were able to encompase the idea that fedora is the "perfect" O.S for NIX users. What other items are "perfect" for each other. Maybe we can use those as inspiration. Just a thought. Seamless lines, perfect curves, fluidness, and gliding are words that come to mind when I think perfect. Something Pure. Maybe reflective .. and other idea's? _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frankly3d at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 08:03:37 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 09:03:37 +0100 Subject: Is this feasible for F10, or even further up the field? Message-ID: <1207382617.3276.11.camel@frank-01> Theme: One World. Object: 3D Earth Idea: Fedora use across the globe. 24 images that change as the world spins. In a non-political, single coloured land, some 3d height-field for mountains. Run a poll on fedoraproject.org, maybe soon after F9 launch? Just city, Country, F(versions) Use different coloured lights for the different versions. 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I think the KDE project won't be too happy about seeing a gear-themed GNOME in Fedora 10. ;-) Kevin Kofler From martin.sourada at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 09:58:37 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 11:58:37 +0200 Subject: Use syslinux theme for grub as well? [Fwd: live CD grub theme vs installed grub theme] Message-ID: <1207389517.3374.3.camel@pc-notebook> Hi, I just run by this message on the test list, and what is said there is true... The GRUB image looks a little strange (due to indexing we are limited a lot), while the syslinux one looks awesome and pretty good with indexing as well. So I thought, as is suggested in the message, that we should use the Syslinux indexed version for GRUB as well. Any thoughts? Martin -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <949201.79401.qm@web51303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <00ed01c896a8$fbb58ab0$f320a010$@net> <949201.79401.qm@web51303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: People's operating system is Ubuntu, that would be ripoff 2008/4/5 brian hurren : > There is another interpretation for the number 10. In the bible it > represents 'all' or 'everyone' or 'everything' so where it says ten > kings it means all of the kings ect. maybe fedora ten is for 'everyone' the > peoples operating system. > > David wrote: > > Since this is the release of 10, what about the idea of perfection... > > Perfection is, broadly, a state of completeness and flawlessness. > > What about if we were able to encompase the idea that fedora is the > "perfect" O.S for NIX users. What other items are "perfect" for each other. > Maybe we can use those as inspiration. Just a thought. Seamless lines, > perfect curves, fluidness, and gliding are words that come to mind when I > think perfect. Something Pure. Maybe reflective .. and other idea's? > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > ________________________________ > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster > Total Access, No Cost. > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- http://scwlab.com From stlwrt at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 12:55:47 2008 From: stlwrt at gmail.com (Pavel Shevchuk) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 15:55:47 +0300 Subject: [F10 theme proposal] Gears Round 1 In-Reply-To: References: <47F6215E.60503@nicubunu.ro> <47F625C4.9000801@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: We would be happy to have any piece of artwork that can be used to theme KDE. Right now we have problem with KDM, which needs proper backrgound image, and svgs posted in wiki can't be rendered properly by kdm's svg engine On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rahul Sundaram fedoraproject.org> writes: > > Well Enlightenment as a desktop environment has been using gears as a > > symbol for a long time now. > > > > http://www.enlightenment.org/ > > KDE too. > > I think the KDE project won't be too happy about seeing a gear-themed GNOME in > Fedora 10. ;-) > > Kevin Kofler > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- http://scwlab.com From linux at elfshadow.net Sat Apr 5 14:18:05 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 10:18:05 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Release Party Flyers In-Reply-To: <10e0a9b00803261938u242848f3re30f60e930fd218e@mail.gmail.com> References: <10e0a9b00803261938u242848f3re30f60e930fd218e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10e0a9b00804050718g2b2bdb8dif30816fd59d91797@mail.gmail.com> Hi Art Team, I posted the below to the art list late last week, it doesn't look like I had any takers. The Fedora Ambassador Steering Committee is planning on making the Release Party push to the Ambassadors at the beginning of the upcoming week. I would like to be able to provide a generic flyer to ambassadors that they can use with minimal changes to print up for their local release party. I have absolutely zero artistic ability and could use some help with this flyer. I am picturing a one-sheet flyer themed with F9 graphic(s) and a text box somewhere on the page where the ambassador can fill in their release party date, time, location and any special events they might be doing at the party. It would be good if the flyers could be printed in color or black and white and still look presentable. If I can provide you with more information, please don't hesitate to let me know. If someone could help me out with this, I would greatly appreciate it - as would the other FAmSCo members. Thanks! Jeffrey a.k.a. iWolf ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jeffrey Tadlock Date: Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:38 PM Subject: Release Party Flyers To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers." Hello Art Team, FAmSCo is trying to get Ambassadors to host release parties during the first week or so of the Fedora 9 release in their area. Francesco announced the idea to the Ambassadors list here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-March/msg00145.html As part of this, I would like to make it even easier for Ambassadors by having some flyers they can download off the wiki to hang up in their area announcing their local release party (and, uh, who am I kidding - I need some flyers for the release party we are planning here in Central Ohio...). I am thinking just a one sheet flyer that we can print up and hang on University bulletin boards, coffee shop hangouts, computer stores, etc. Now, the dates will most likely vary between area for their release party date - so in order to be most useful it would be handy for the average non-art person to be able to modify the date, time, location and a little area for any special notes. Is this something someone could help me out on? Thanks! Jeffrey From kwade at redhat.com Sat Apr 5 14:58:20 2008 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten 'quaid' Wade) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 07:58:20 -0700 Subject: USB key labels Message-ID: <1207407501.4585.173.camel@calliope.phig.org> In thinking about loading USB keys of live Fedora 9 for a community event, I thought it would be cool if we had "Fedora 9 Live" (or something) stickers/labels to a-fix to them. All USB keys are not the same size, that is true, but they are often long and rectangular. If we had a compact image that was in a rectangular or square shape, sized to fit common label dimensions, it would be fairly simple to print to a sheet of paper labels. Not the ideal long-term solution, but far less expensive than getting USB keys printed. Before I do a bunch of research on label standards, does anyone know about this already? What might be good art to work with? Some of the banner widgets are a nice shape for a label. We'd also want a bit more information on it, such as a URL and copyright info; whatever we put on a DVD label already. - Karstren -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm working on this... basically grub sometimes resizes to be a smaller square in the center of the screen on some types of systems including apple hardware), so pjones thought it would be good to have artwork that fades out at the edges to a solid color so grub wouldn't look so strange on these systems. This wouldn't work with the current grub image so we're playing with the syslinux image indexed and faded at the edges for grub instead. I'll post what I've got next week. ~m From duffy at fedoraproject.org Sat Apr 5 15:40:44 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 11:40:44 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Release Party Flyers In-Reply-To: <10e0a9b00804050718g2b2bdb8dif30816fd59d91797@mail.gmail.com> References: <10e0a9b00803261938u242848f3re30f60e930fd218e@mail.gmail.com> <10e0a9b00804050718g2b2bdb8dif30816fd59d91797@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F79D7C.3090307@fedoraproject.org> Hi Jeff, > From: Jeffrey Tadlock > Date: Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:38 PM > Subject: Release Party Flyers > To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including > icons, themes, and wallpapers." > > Hello Art Team, > > FAmSCo is trying to get Ambassadors to host release parties during the > first week or so of the Fedora 9 release in their area. Francesco > announced the idea to the Ambassadors list here: > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-March/msg00145.html > > As part of this, I would like to make it even easier for Ambassadors > by having some flyers they can download off the wiki to hang up in > their area announcing their local release party (and, uh, who am I > kidding - I need some flyers for the release party we are planning > here in Central Ohio...). > > I am thinking just a one sheet flyer that we can print up and hang on > University bulletin boards, coffee shop hangouts, computer stores, > etc. Now, the dates will most likely vary between area for their > release party date - so in order to be most useful it would be handy > for the average non-art person to be able to modify the date, time, > location and a little area for any special notes. > > Is this something someone could help me out on? What copy do you want for the poster? What do you want it to say? If you can provide the text, e.g.: Come Celebrate Fedora 10's release! CDs and DVDs available, swag available, blah balh balh Date: Time: Location: Special Notes: (I'm sure you could come up with something better for the headline and byline?) ~m From linux at elfshadow.net Sat Apr 5 16:24:46 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 12:24:46 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Release Party Flyers In-Reply-To: <47F79D7C.3090307@fedoraproject.org> References: <10e0a9b00803261938u242848f3re30f60e930fd218e@mail.gmail.com> <10e0a9b00804050718g2b2bdb8dif30816fd59d91797@mail.gmail.com> <47F79D7C.3090307@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <10e0a9b00804050924k26b204ban83aeb47b403dee30@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 11:40 AM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > What copy do you want for the poster? What do you want it to say? If you > can provide the text, e.g.: > > Come Celebrate Fedora 10's release! > CDs and DVDs available, swag available, blah balh balh > > Date: > Time: > Location: > Special Notes: > > > (I'm sure you could come up with something better for the headline and > byline?) Thanks M?ir?n! Let me run some ideas by FAmSCo and then I will post back here with more info for the text. Is it possible to have a text box area where an Ambassador could open the flyer and modify the date, time, location and notes section themselves? My hope is to provide ambassadors with a general release party flyer that they can add in their own date, time and location. That will allow us to use this flyer as a basis for all of the Release Parties we hope to see thrown shortly after the launch of Fedora 9. Thanks again! ~Jeffrey From martin.sourada at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 16:39:59 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 18:39:59 +0200 Subject: F9 KDM [Re: [F10 theme proposal] Gears Round 1] In-Reply-To: References: <47F6215E.60503@nicubunu.ro> <47F625C4.9000801@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1207413599.3374.21.camel@pc-notebook> On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 15:55 +0300, Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > We would be happy to have any piece of artwork that can be used to > theme KDE. Right now we have problem with KDM, which needs proper > backrgound image, and svgs posted in wiki can't be rendered properly > by kdm's svg engine > Then can you use PNGs? But, if you need to use SVGs I bet that opening them in Inkscape and resaving them as Plain SVGs would make the rendering by the kdm's SVG engine better. However, it uses a fair bit of advanced effects like blur, which takes quite long time to render, so I'd advice you to use PNGs instead. Btw. I might be able to do a sketch for KDM (real theme is a no-go for me, I don't have neither experience nor KDM) if you are interested, I just need to know, how much you are able to do :) Martin From duffy at fedoraproject.org Sat Apr 5 18:43:56 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:43:56 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Release Party Flyers In-Reply-To: <10e0a9b00804050924k26b204ban83aeb47b403dee30@mail.gmail.com> References: <10e0a9b00803261938u242848f3re30f60e930fd218e@mail.gmail.com> <10e0a9b00804050718g2b2bdb8dif30816fd59d91797@mail.gmail.com> <47F79D7C.3090307@fedoraproject.org> <10e0a9b00804050924k26b204ban83aeb47b403dee30@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F7C86C.4030305@fedoraproject.org> Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 11:40 AM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> What copy do you want for the poster? What do you want it to say? If you >> can provide the text, e.g.: >> >> Come Celebrate Fedora 10's release! >> CDs and DVDs available, swag available, blah balh balh >> >> Date: >> Time: >> Location: >> Special Notes: >> >> >> (I'm sure you could come up with something better for the headline and >> byline?) > > Thanks M?ir?n! Let me run some ideas by FAmSCo and then I will post > back here with more info for the text. > > Is it possible to have a text box area where an Ambassador could open > the flyer and modify the date, time, location and notes section > themselves? My hope is to provide ambassadors with a general release > party flyer that they can add in their own date, time and location. > That will allow us to use this flyer as a basis for all of the Release > Parties we hope to see thrown shortly after the launch of Fedora 9. I would guess the simplest way to do this is to keep the date / time / location fields blank, let the ambassadors fill this out on a printout using a magic marker and then make xerox copies? ~m From martin.sourada at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 22:55:55 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 00:55:55 +0200 Subject: Fedora 9 Waves KDM mockup Message-ID: <1207436155.3374.44.camel@pc-notebook> Hi, as I promised, I sketched an idea for KDM. It's supposed to give the general idea, so I didn't bothered with proper sizes, and I am aware that on real desktop it will not be 640x480... It's a rather dark theme, based on slightly edited night wallpaper. To keep some consistency with F9 GDM, the "settings panel" is at the bottom; and vertically in the centre (optically), horizontally to the left (to keep some distance from the burning sulphur) is the face-browser plus login window. I hope it's still in time for someone to make the KDM theme :) I uploaded it to my fedorapeople page. http://mso.fedorapeople.org/waves/kdm.png http://mso.fedorapeople.org/waves/kdm.svg Thanks, Martin From luya at fedoraproject.org Sun Apr 6 07:04:39 2008 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 00:04:39 -0700 Subject: New address Message-ID: <47F87607.1070805@fedoraproject.org> -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Charset: ISO-8859-1 Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org hQIOA5Y0l9i73SpOEAf9EPTr7pPAeboQf/BlZl6CjvVaLtYgQkq+0S2oRhOSNZdu h74dwEh6NGVRxbZc+tgpcBKrT/tjUgxdwfE9SLj3K+QEyj4c8mhsYsMYb3SKBAZb ksmcE5zikD06MOEUdCzC21QvsOYlv82jXN3GG89Dx/hT7N1+RikgE/7sTwuuZ3WU DzqFx9ngfwecAwLFAiXpybP99vzK7C04AaTdepydYZrSS9K8wGsUsEsuyRKlaEHD lgtd6Zlq72y2foVh8L5LRO+Tyk511DAwiGxqZhTzzKj2WGdYhPuULRG0Mnx9zOkd CO7C9LpsYqIhNgAUkaftmjBYxCgbpdnIOirE4TeO9wf/dM3mluXOABJcbU39r4gZ N8cMS3wNiTolygmuqT/9DpXSQN0BZh1xCscATIQ1msYDQLq80iUTT5dasIXRrEJp IfsqRmH7eLhue4YuiGkuVhK6dIjLadHskkRHGIW1U7QDsWIek/q1g0HwOHiUT3Kn NRzvMDkPrWHa1v5d7tvFjT1XJnLluCIX1Q8hbZBIJffjW/Ek6tTzUE8Ean8umYIG 2dr1RqGneIbrtYVGH32mvRiCJOL53QuejAfr1bFLQHU50t7NalMfY5KpIuAu7Kb4 j8wAyjOJr8ixBEP8/xwyGlGRoPXT7n++wvwXhLF2w6eXmHEfeJ9eR2PPMJmRh8Ip q9JsAbYTvW+BodTqyEX9EXR9o+qQNBnwSb252ZBL5uOJINCbsDMhaFE1nHH/dOQz 6JFWYXEeoSF17SdZSClm0zAgKP9TWBRq5vWYLOv2wEII3AUn9ltcMVTEMm9HWT8T o1dYiwkkhra8jIZzEy+T =5qw1 -----END PGP MESSAGE----- From eshikafe at yahoo.co.uk Sun Apr 6 11:23:47 2008 From: eshikafe at yahoo.co.uk (aigbe austin) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 12:23:47 +0100 (BST) Subject: New contributor Message-ID: <690974.98568.qm@web25002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi everyone, I am a new member of the fedora artwork group. I would like to contribute immersely to Fedora and promote it in my country Nigeria. I just started using Linux (Ubuntu) some weeks ago and I'm finding it really interesting. MY ART/DESIGN EXPERIENCE All of my artworks have been on Windows. But, like I said, I am really interested in Linux. Inkscape (level: good) Adobe photoshop ( " good) Sketch Pro ( " good) TASK pls I would like to be assigned a task so that I can quickly start off as a Fedora artwork contributor. Thanks ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ From brianhurren at yahoo.com Sun Apr 6 11:40:33 2008 From: brianhurren at yahoo.com (brian hurren) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 04:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fedora Mascot? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <49696.27488.qm@web51308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> We could use the Transfinite (aleph) numbers instead of infinity. this is a description of a set with an infinite number of members. Ordinary vanilla flavored infinity. (aleph null) A description of a continuum which is the next level beyond infinity is(aleph one) this is a description of the aleph number set an infinite amount of infinity, hyperinfinity. this is a description of a continuum. anyway, we could use the aleph symbol maybe as a wallpaper. or we could name future releases of Fedora as a sequence of aleph (transfinite) numbers Fedora 10. Pavel Shevchuk wrote: People's operating system is Ubuntu, that would be ripoff 2008/4/5 brian hurren : > There is another interpretation for the number 10. In the bible it > represents 'all' or 'everyone' or 'everything' so where it says ten > kings it means all of the kings ect. maybe fedora ten is for 'everyone' the > peoples operating system. > > David wrote: > > Since this is the release of 10, what about the idea of perfection... > > Perfection is, broadly, a state of completeness and flawlessness. > > What about if we were able to encompase the idea that fedora is the > "perfect" O.S for NIX users. What other items are "perfect" for each other. > Maybe we can use those as inspiration. Just a thought. Seamless lines, > perfect curves, fluidness, and gliding are words that come to mind when I > think perfect. Something Pure. Maybe reflective .. and other idea's? > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > ________________________________ > You rock. 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Do you have ideas on how to bling it up? thanks, ~m From ianweller at gmail.com Sun Apr 6 16:19:31 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:19:31 -0500 (CDT) Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 6 Apr 2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > This is one of the ideas I've been working with - > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/0001.png > Whoa. Almost looks like a UFO is abducting my taskbar. ;) I personally like it a lot better, it almost seems a bit out of place though... but it works. It's really neat. -- ian From inode0 at gmail.com Sun Apr 6 16:25:41 2008 From: inode0 at gmail.com (inode0) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:25:41 -0500 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 11:10 AM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've received a few complaints about the f9 wallpaper (it seems the sulphur > is really unpopular) and I've been experimenting with alternative designs > for it but trying to keep the same look and feel of the rest of the artwork. > > This is one of the ideas I've been working with - > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/0001.png > > Do you think it's a good direction? Do you have ideas on how to bling it > up? Wow, that is so cool. Does it need to be blinged up? John From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Sun Apr 6 16:28:25 2008 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 11:28:25 -0500 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F8FA29.8070404@gmail.com> Kind of pushing the deadlines on everything, but if we need to, I don't see why we couldn't make this work if we bust our butts. Not a lot seems to be off with the mockup you just sent. M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've received a few complaints about the f9 wallpaper (it seems the > sulphur is really unpopular) and I've been experimenting with > alternative designs for it but trying to keep the same look and feel > of the rest of the artwork. > > This is one of the ideas I've been working with - > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/0001.png > > Do you think it's a good direction? Do you have ideas on how to bling > it up? > > thanks, > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From johannbg at hi.is Sun Apr 6 16:29:00 2008 From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:29:00 +0000 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F8FA4C.2060409@hi.is> Ian Weller wrote: > On Sun, 6 Apr 2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> This is one of the ideas I've been working with - >> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/0001.png >> > Whoa. Almost looks like a UFO is abducting my taskbar. ;) > > I personally like it a lot better, it almost seems a bit out of place > though... but it works. It's really neat. > > -- ian > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > I kinda see/sense this more like water has dropped to cause these circle and the rays kinda laying on top of the circles, maybe it's the angel.. But still better then the one we currently have..... Br. Johann B. From frankly3d at gmail.com Sun Apr 6 16:31:15 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:31:15 +0100 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1207499475.18627.3.camel@frank-01> On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 12:10 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi folks, > > This is one of the ideas I've been working with - > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/0001.png Looks fine on a dual. > > Do you think it's a good direction? Do you have ideas on how to bling it up? Don't think it needs bling, at times less is more. Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Once you have all your folders ect over it there are no annoying background objects competing with them. Maybe open the waves up a bit more. M?ir?n Duffy wrote: Hi folks, I've received a few complaints about the f9 wallpaper (it seems the sulphur is really unpopular) and I've been experimenting with alternative designs for it but trying to keep the same look and feel of the rest of the artwork. This is one of the ideas I've been working with - http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/0001.png Do you think it's a good direction? Do you have ideas on how to bling it up? thanks, ~m _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gort.klaatu at gmail.com Sun Apr 6 16:59:00 2008 From: gort.klaatu at gmail.com (Klaatu and Gort) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:59:00 -0700 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <928965.64114.qm@web51303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <928965.64114.qm@web51303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: yeah that's quite nice. 2008/4/6 brian hurren : > try turning it up the other way. It has got good ambiance, not to > distracting. Once you have all your folders ect over it there are no > annoying background objects competing with them. > Maybe open the waves up a bit more. > > > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I've received a few complaints about the f9 wallpaper (it seems the > sulphur is really unpopular) and I've been experimenting with > alternative designs for it but trying to keep the same look and feel of > the rest of the artwork. > > This is one of the ideas I've been working with - > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/0001.png > > Do you think it's a good direction? Do you have ideas on how to bling it up? > > thanks, > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > ________________________________ > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster > Total Access, No Cost. > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- --- use linux. support free software. subscribe to http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Apr 6 17:32:23 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 23:02:23 +0530 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F90927.8060700@fedoraproject.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've received a few complaints about the f9 wallpaper (it seems the > sulphur is really unpopular) and I've been experimenting with > alternative designs for it but trying to keep the same look and feel of > the rest of the artwork. > > This is one of the ideas I've been working with - > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/0001.png > > Do you think it's a good direction? Do you have ideas on how to bling it > up? What people didn't seem to like was the flames on top. The original sulphuric waves gray wallpaper and associated artwork was very good IMO. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves Rahul From duffy at fedoraproject.org Sun Apr 6 18:00:08 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:00:08 -0400 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F90FA8.7060405@fedoraproject.org> Ian Weller wrote: > On Sun, 6 Apr 2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> This is one of the ideas I've been working with - >> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/0001.png >> > Whoa. Almost looks like a UFO is abducting my taskbar. ;) Oh crap, I totally see that now too. :) This is a slightly different render of it, does it look less invasion-like? http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/from-below.7.png ~m From duffy at fedoraproject.org Sun Apr 6 18:01:37 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:01:37 -0400 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F90927.8060700@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F90927.8060700@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F91001.4010305@fedoraproject.org> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > What people didn't seem to like was the flames on top. The original > sulphuric waves gray wallpaper and associated artwork was very good IMO. They don't like the sulphur, either. I've heard it referred to as 'dog crap', 'cheese', and 'nuggets'. And some other less savory terms. But you pull the sulphur out, you don't get the reflections, the water looks flat and dead. So the wallpaper doesn't work so well without it. ~m From ianweller at gmail.com Sun Apr 6 18:19:57 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 13:19:57 -0500 (CDT) Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F90FA8.7060405@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F90FA8.7060405@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 6 Apr 2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > This is a slightly different render of it, does it look less invasion-like? > Very yes. +1 -- ian From luya at fedoraproject.org Sun Apr 6 19:38:33 2008 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 12:38:33 -0700 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F926B9.2060303@fedoraproject.org> M?ir?n Duffy a ?crit : > Hi folks, > > I've received a few complaints about the f9 wallpaper (it seems the > sulphur is really unpopular) and I've been experimenting with > alternative designs for it but trying to keep the same look and feel > of the rest of the artwork. > > This is one of the ideas I've been working with - > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/0001.png > > Do you think it's a good direction? Do you have ideas on how to bling > it up? > > thanks, > ~m It looks like a underwater view of the wave. I think these wave needs to be dynamic i.e spreading toward. It will be also an opportunity to take advantage of the script Matthias created from Fedora 7 where the wave varies weekly. The effects should be subtle. M?ir?n, do you have the svg version? I will give a try tonight. Luya From dimitris at glezos.com Sun Apr 6 20:12:22 2008 From: dimitris at glezos.com (Dimitris Glezos) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 23:12:22 +0300 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F91001.4010305@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F90927.8060700@fedoraproject.org> <47F91001.4010305@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <6d4237680804061312k57505a80r3e1f4077eae10a37@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 9:01 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > What people didn't seem to like was the flames on top. The original > > sulphuric waves gray wallpaper and associated artwork was very good IMO. > > > > They don't like the sulphur, either. I've heard it referred to as 'dog > crap', 'cheese', and 'nuggets'. And some other less savory terms. > > But you pull the sulphur out, you don't get the reflections, the water > looks flat and dead. So the wallpaper doesn't work so well without it. Maybe replacing it with something else sulphuric? Eg.: http://flickr.com/photos/37643027 at N00/303524177/sizes/o/ -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos at jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- From martin.sourada at gmail.com Sun Apr 6 20:18:55 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:18:55 +0200 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F90FA8.7060405@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F90FA8.7060405@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1207513135.3155.3.camel@pc-notebook> On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 14:00 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Ian Weller wrote: > > On Sun, 6 Apr 2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > > >> This is one of the ideas I've been working with - > >> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/0001.png > >> > > Whoa. Almost looks like a UFO is abducting my taskbar. ;) > > Oh crap, I totally see that now too. :) > > This is a slightly different render of it, does it look less invasion-like? > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/from-below.7.png > > ~m > Looks good! The only thing I miss there are the reflections... ;-) Only one thing bugs me, devel freeze is very near, we are way after the round 3 freeze... Are we going to make it in time? Oh, and to the UFO thing.. IMHO the rays feel like UFO, but it is not necessarily a bad thing :) So for this, if we are able to make it in time, +1 from me. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Are we going to make it in time? > > So for this, if we are able to make it in time, +1 from me. > If we scramble, get the colors picked today, and finalize the wallpapers tomorrow and get them packaged and in rawhide, we'll make it in time. /me panics... ;) -- ian From mclasen at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 20:43:02 2008 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:43:02 -0400 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F90FA8.7060405@fedoraproject.org> <1207513135.3155.3.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1207514582.3247.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 15:29 -0500, Ian Weller wrote: > On Sun, 6 Apr 2008, Martin Sourada wrote: > > one thing bugs me, devel freeze is very near, we are way after the round > > 3 freeze... Are we going to make it in time? > > > > So for this, if we are able to make it in time, +1 from me. > > > If we scramble, get the colors picked today, and finalize the wallpapers > tomorrow and get them packaged and in rawhide, we'll make it in time. > > /me panics... ;) We'll be able to get final backgrounds in, even if they are a day or two late. The purpose of putting the current waves background into rawhide was to get some feedback, it would be silly to ignore that feedback now ... From ianweller at gmail.com Sun Apr 6 20:47:42 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 15:47:42 -0500 (CDT) Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <1207514582.3247.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F90FA8.7060405@fedoraproject.org> <1207513135.3155.3.camel@pc-notebook> <1207514582.3247.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Sun, 6 Apr 2008, Matthias Clasen wrote: > We'll be able to get final backgrounds in, even if they are a day or two > late. The purpose of putting the current waves background into rawhide > was to get some feedback, it would be silly to ignore that feedback > now ... > I forgot about the feedback process. never mind ;) -- ian From duffy at fedoraproject.org Sun Apr 6 20:50:01 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:50:01 -0400 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <1207513135.3155.3.camel@pc-notebook> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F90FA8.7060405@fedoraproject.org> <1207513135.3155.3.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <47F93779.5050302@fedoraproject.org> Martin Sourada wrote: > Looks good! The only thing I miss there are the reflections... ;-) Only > one thing bugs me, devel freeze is very near, we are way after the round > 3 freeze... Are we going to make it in time? Yeh the freeze is Tuesday. I'm going to be trying very hard to get this prepared for then. ~m From duffy at fedoraproject.org Sun Apr 6 21:13:05 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:13:05 -0400 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F926B9.2060303@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F926B9.2060303@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F93CE1.80905@fedoraproject.org> Hey Luya, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > It looks like a underwater view of the wave. I think these wave needs to > be dynamic i.e spreading toward. It will be also an opportunity to take > advantage of the script Matthias created from Fedora 7 where the wave > varies weekly. The effects should be subtle. M?ir?n, do you have the > svg version? I will give a try tonight. That would be awesome! Give me maybe 45 minutes to clean it up and I'll send it here. One thing though, when working with this file you've gotta put it in outline mode otherwise the blurs will slow your machine to a halt. Also, I've been rendering the bitmaps on the command line, eg: inkscape --without-gui --export-png=0003b.png 0003.svg ~m From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Apr 6 21:18:58 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 02:48:58 +0530 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F93CE1.80905@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F926B9.2060303@fedoraproject.org> <47F93CE1.80905@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F93E42.9070400@fedoraproject.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hey Luya, > > Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: >> It looks like a underwater view of the wave. I think these wave needs to >> be dynamic i.e spreading toward. It will be also an opportunity to take >> advantage of the script Matthias created from Fedora 7 where the wave >> varies weekly. The effects should be subtle. M?ir?n, do you have the >> svg version? I will give a try tonight. > > That would be awesome! Give me maybe 45 minutes to clean it up and I'll > send it here. One thing though, when working with this file you've gotta > put it in outline mode otherwise the blurs will slow your machine to a > halt. Also, I've been rendering the bitmaps on the command line, eg: > > inkscape --without-gui --export-png=0003b.png 0003.svg Of note is the fact that the new GDM loads up the default desktop wallpaper and it seems that a fancy wallpaper with animations and effects would really slow down the GDM load time which is not a nice user experience since the whole system feels slow at that point. If my guess is right, keeping the wallpaper very simple is the way to go. Rahul From duffy at fedoraproject.org Sun Apr 6 21:24:59 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:24:59 -0400 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F93E42.9070400@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F926B9.2060303@fedoraproject.org> <47F93CE1.80905@fedoraproject.org> <47F93E42.9070400@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F93FAB.9080401@fedoraproject.org> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Hey Luya, >> >> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: >>> It looks like a underwater view of the wave. I think these wave needs to >>> be dynamic i.e spreading toward. It will be also an opportunity to take >>> advantage of the script Matthias created from Fedora 7 where the wave >>> varies weekly. The effects should be subtle. M?ir?n, do you have the >>> svg version? I will give a try tonight. >> >> That would be awesome! Give me maybe 45 minutes to clean it up and >> I'll send it here. One thing though, when working with this file >> you've gotta put it in outline mode otherwise the blurs will slow your >> machine to a halt. Also, I've been rendering the bitmaps on the >> command line, eg: >> >> inkscape --without-gui --export-png=0003b.png 0003.svg > > Of note is the fact that the new GDM loads up the default desktop > wallpaper and it seems that a fancy wallpaper with animations and > effects would really slow down the GDM load time which is not a nice > user experience since the whole system feels slow at that point. If my > guess is right, keeping the wallpaper very simple is the way to go. When I'm talking about this wallpaper being slow in Inkscape, I mean in Inkscape only. :) The rendered bitmap will in no way slow GDM down. ~m From mclasen at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 22:34:51 2008 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 18:34:51 -0400 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F93E42.9070400@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F926B9.2060303@fedoraproject.org> <47F93CE1.80905@fedoraproject.org> <47F93E42.9070400@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1207521291.3560.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 02:48 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Of note is the fact that the new GDM loads up the default desktop > wallpaper and it seems that a fancy wallpaper with animations and > effects would really slow down the GDM load time which is not a nice > user experience since the whole system feels slow at that point. If my > guess is right, keeping the wallpaper very simple is the way to go. Animated backgrounds should not be significantly slower at initial loading, unless you make them change at sub-second rate... From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Apr 6 22:45:45 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 04:15:45 +0530 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <1207521291.3560.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F926B9.2060303@fedoraproject.org> <47F93CE1.80905@fedoraproject.org> <47F93E42.9070400@fedoraproject.org> <1207521291.3560.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <47F95299.4070403@fedoraproject.org> Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 02:48 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> Of note is the fact that the new GDM loads up the default desktop >> wallpaper and it seems that a fancy wallpaper with animations and >> effects would really slow down the GDM load time which is not a nice >> user experience since the whole system feels slow at that point. If my >> guess is right, keeping the wallpaper very simple is the way to go. > > Animated backgrounds should not be significantly slower at initial > loading, unless you make them change at sub-second rate... (somewhat OT) I haven't really run any benchmarks or anything but the new GDM does seem to load slower on a few systems I am running rawhide on including this laptop. If you need any more information that can help fix it, let me know. Rahul From mclasen at redhat.com Sun Apr 6 23:01:51 2008 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:01:51 -0400 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F95299.4070403@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F926B9.2060303@fedoraproject.org> <47F93CE1.80905@fedoraproject.org> <47F93E42.9070400@fedoraproject.org> <1207521291.3560.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47F95299.4070403@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1207522911.3560.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 04:15 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 02:48 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > >> Of note is the fact that the new GDM loads up the default desktop > >> wallpaper and it seems that a fancy wallpaper with animations and > >> effects would really slow down the GDM load time which is not a nice > >> user experience since the whole system feels slow at that point. If my > >> guess is right, keeping the wallpaper very simple is the way to go. > > > > Animated backgrounds should not be significantly slower at initial > > loading, unless you make them change at sub-second rate... > > (somewhat OT) > > I haven't really run any benchmarks or anything but the new GDM does > seem to load slower on a few systems I am running rawhide on including > this laptop. If you need any more information that can help fix it, let > me know. It is a known problem, see discussion on the gdm list a while ago. But it has nothing to do with backgrounds. From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Sun Apr 6 23:30:09 2008 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gian Paolo Mureddu) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 18:30:09 -0500 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F90FA8.7060405@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F90FA8.7060405@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F95D01.2010209@prodigy.net.mx> M?ir?n Duffy escribi?: > Ian Weller wrote: >> On Sun, 6 Apr 2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> >>> This is one of the ideas I've been working with - >>> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/0001.png >>> >> Whoa. Almost looks like a UFO is abducting my taskbar. ;) > > Oh crap, I totally see that now too. :) > > This is a slightly different render of it, does it look less > invasion-like? > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/from-below.7.png > > ~m It looks like ripples on water surface viewed from underwater, and the light rays penetrating from the surface. Looks nice. From linux at elfshadow.net Mon Apr 7 01:57:40 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:57:40 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Release Party Flyers In-Reply-To: <47F7C86C.4030305@fedoraproject.org> References: <10e0a9b00803261938u242848f3re30f60e930fd218e@mail.gmail.com> <10e0a9b00804050718g2b2bdb8dif30816fd59d91797@mail.gmail.com> <47F79D7C.3090307@fedoraproject.org> <10e0a9b00804050924k26b204ban83aeb47b403dee30@mail.gmail.com> <47F7C86C.4030305@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <10e0a9b00804061857l3b360cddrc7ac0c7733bb6825@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 2:43 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > > What copy do you want for the poster? What do you want it to say? If > > > you can provide the text, e.g.: In interests of keeping the flyer towards the generic side and useful for a large number of people (and my lack marketing lingo ;) ), how about something that says: Fedora 9 # in big, eye catching text Release Party # in slightly smaller text Then a Fedora graphic in the middle of the sheet and allow room at the bottom of the text for someone to tweak the design with their customized local info. > > > Date: > > > Time: > > > Location: > > > Special Notes: > > > > Is it possible to have a text box area where an Ambassador could open > > the flyer and modify the date, time, location and notes section > > themselves? My hope is to provide ambassadors with a general release > > party flyer that they can add in their own date, time and location. > > That will allow us to use this flyer as a basis for all of the Release > > Parties we hope to see thrown shortly after the launch of Fedora 9. > > I would guess the simplest way to do this is to keep the date / time / > location fields blank, let the ambassadors fill this out on a printout using > a magic marker and then make xerox copies? Well, it doesn't have to be that simple. Here is what I have in mind, the heading text and graphic above and then towards the bottom a spot fill in the local information of date, time, location, etc. I figure most of these flyers will be on 8.5"x11" paper, so we can post a png for printing in that size on the wiki. If people need a different size, they can tweak it from the svg we also post. With the date, time, location section blank an ambassador can load the png file into The Gimp and add in their own text in the area we left. Do you think this would work? We (i.e. I) can post directions on how to modify the flyer with that information if you think it is at least doable. Thanks for taking time to discuss this with me. I know you folks are swamped with trying to get the theme finished up before the freeze. Thanks, Jeffrey From duffy at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 7 04:32:03 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:32:03 -0400 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F93CE1.80905@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F926B9.2060303@fedoraproject.org> <47F93CE1.80905@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F9A3C3.1080505@fedoraproject.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > That would be awesome! Give me maybe 45 minutes to clean it up and I'll > send it here. One thing though, when working with this file you've gotta > put it in outline mode otherwise the blurs will slow your machine to a > halt. Also, I've been rendering the bitmaps on the command line, eg: > > inkscape --without-gui --export-png=0003b.png 0003.svg Um, okay so that took way more than 45 minutes... sorry!!!! but I've been playing with it a lot and think it's getting better. I added some bubbles & sparkles and mucked with the ripples such that they match the rest of the artwork a little better and look a little bit more natural. Here's the mock so far: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/f9wallpaper/sparkles-6_test.png The source files (these will be changing as I play around): - http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/f9wallpaper/0008.svg - this is the main background without sparkles; this one you will not be able to work with unless you go into view >outlines mode. - http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/f9wallpaper/sparkles-6.svg - this is the bitmap output of the 0008.svg file on one layer with vector sparkles, etc on top. ~m From duffy at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 7 05:19:24 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 01:19:24 -0400 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F9A3C3.1080505@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F926B9.2060303@fedoraproject.org> <47F93CE1.80905@fedoraproject.org> <47F9A3C3.1080505@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F9AEDC.7020806@fedoraproject.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Um, okay so that took way more than 45 minutes... sorry!!!! but I've > been playing with it a lot and think it's getting better. I added some > bubbles & sparkles and mucked with the ripples such that they match the > rest of the artwork a little better and look a little bit more natural. > Here's the mock so far: And here's this graphic done out for 4 times of day: http://people.redhat.com/duffy/misc/f9-day-to-night/ (used some simple gimp manipulation - using the levels tool - to produce each variation) What do you think? ~m From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Mon Apr 7 05:24:06 2008 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gian Paolo Mureddu) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:24:06 -0500 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F9A3C3.1080505@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F926B9.2060303@fedoraproject.org> <47F93CE1.80905@fedoraproject.org> <47F9A3C3.1080505@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F9AFF6.70403@prodigy.net.mx> M?ir?n Duffy escribi?: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> That would be awesome! Give me maybe 45 minutes to clean it up and >> I'll send it here. One thing though, when working with this file >> you've gotta put it in outline mode otherwise the blurs will slow >> your machine to a halt. Also, I've been rendering the bitmaps on the >> command line, eg: >> >> inkscape --without-gui --export-png=0003b.png 0003.svg > > Um, okay so that took way more than 45 minutes... sorry!!!! but I've > been playing with it a lot and think it's getting better. I added some > bubbles & sparkles and mucked with the ripples such that they match > the rest of the artwork a little better and look a little bit more > natural. Here's the mock so far: > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/f9wallpaper/sparkles-6_test.png > > The source files (these will be changing as I play around): > > - http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/f9wallpaper/0008.svg - this is > the main background without sparkles; this one you will not be able to > work with unless you go into view >outlines mode. > > - http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/f9wallpaper/sparkles-6.svg - this > is the bitmap output of the 0008.svg file on one layer with vector > sparkles, etc on top. > > ~m Wow! These look *REALLY* nice with the added stars and "sparkling". From jakub.rusinek at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 17:36:23 2008 From: jakub.rusinek at gmail.com (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:36:23 +0200 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <1207319269.4468.59.camel@pc-notebook> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> <1207313391.4468.37.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040633h4937e095nb7682fecc8894828@mail.gmail.com> <1207319269.4468.59.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1207330584.2070.0.camel@fedora> > Not fast is not an option. Either working fast (and stable) or it is not > acceptable as default. Also, AFAIK, whether the compositing is turned on > or not depends on window manager (in our case metacity), not gtk or even > theme engine. Nah... Not true. You can use xcompmgr ;) . -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: To jest cz??? wiadomo?ci podpisana cyfrowo URL: From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 05:35:28 2008 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:35:28 -0500 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F9AEDC.7020806@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F926B9.2060303@fedoraproject.org> <47F93CE1.80905@fedoraproject.org> <47F9A3C3.1080505@fedoraproject.org> <47F9AEDC.7020806@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F9B2A0.9070404@gmail.com> I really want to know how you can crank out such good stuff so fast. I am envious. I approve of these replacing what we had. M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Um, okay so that took way more than 45 minutes... sorry!!!! but I've >> been playing with it a lot and think it's getting better. I added >> some bubbles & sparkles and mucked with the ripples such that they >> match the rest of the artwork a little better and look a little bit >> more natural. Here's the mock so far: > > And here's this graphic done out for 4 times of day: > > http://people.redhat.com/duffy/misc/f9-day-to-night/ > > (used some simple gimp manipulation - using the levels tool - to > produce each variation) > > What do you think? > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From martin.sourada at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 05:57:14 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 07:57:14 +0200 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F9AEDC.7020806@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F926B9.2060303@fedoraproject.org> <47F93CE1.80905@fedoraproject.org> <47F9A3C3.1080505@fedoraproject.org> <47F9AEDC.7020806@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1207547834.3232.1.camel@pc-notebook> On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 01:19 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Um, okay so that took way more than 45 minutes... sorry!!!! but I've > > been playing with it a lot and think it's getting better. I added some > > bubbles & sparkles and mucked with the ripples such that they match the > > rest of the artwork a little better and look a little bit more natural. > > Here's the mock so far: > > And here's this graphic done out for 4 times of day: > > http://people.redhat.com/duffy/misc/f9-day-to-night/ > > (used some simple gimp manipulation - using the levels tool - to produce > each variation) > > What do you think? > > ~m > These are great, the only thing I don't like there are the star-shaped sparkles, it feels like they does not fit there... I'd stay with bubbles only. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Right now we have problem with KDM, which needs proper > backrgound image, and svgs posted in wiki can't be rendered properly > by kdm's svg engine But neither GDM/GNOME does not use those SVGs, PNGs exported at various resolutions with Inkscape are used instead (technically, SVG could be used, but for performance reason and to manually fine tune all the details, PNG is preferred). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Apr 7 06:36:04 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:36:04 +0300 Subject: A wallpaper material or what.. In-Reply-To: <47F65B8B.2020301@hi.is> References: <47F65B8B.2020301@hi.is> Message-ID: <47F9C0D4.6000307@nicubunu.ro> J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote: > I think this picture I took could be great addon to fedora's wallpaper > set.. Too bad we don't have an infrastructure in place (a gallery or something) to allow people to easily submit their contributed wallpapers... > It actually goes very well with the nodoka theme.. > > http://www.hi.is/~johannbg/icelandic-horse.jpg > > So what the procedure add it to the wallpaper collection. > and needed/wanted resolutions.. > ( 800x600, 1024x768,1600x1200,1440x900,1680x1050x 1920x1200,2560x1600 ) Do we have a package like fedora-wallpapers-extra? Do we want such one? AFAIK, we don't have a written policy about including extra wallpapers. > Here's a potential avatar material ( needs of course be resized ) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Apr 7 06:41:02 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:41:02 +0300 Subject: F9 CD/DVD art In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47F9C1FE.50504@nicubunu.ro> Max Spevack wrote: > Well, the Fedora 8 CD/DVD media and jacket art was absolutely beautiful, > and everyone loved it. > > In order to get the fastest possible turnaround time from our media > producers worldwide once the GOLD bits are finalized, it would be great > if we could get the F9 CD/DVD artwork and jackets finalized pretty soon. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt > > I don't see anything up here yet, so I thought I'd ask what the timeline > is. A while ago I tried to come out with some concepts as an incentive for people to work on that, but the follow up was minimal: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2008/03/first-attempt-at-f9-sulphur-media.html -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From ianweller at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 06:46:52 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 01:46:52 -0500 (CDT) Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F9AEDC.7020806@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F926B9.2060303@fedoraproject.org> <47F93CE1.80905@fedoraproject.org> <47F9A3C3.1080505@fedoraproject.org> <47F9AEDC.7020806@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Um, okay so that took way more than 45 minutes... sorry!!!! but I've >> been playing with it a lot and think it's getting better. I added some >> bubbles & sparkles and mucked with the ripples such that they match the >> rest of the artwork a little better and look a little bit more natural. >> Here's the mock so far: > > And here's this graphic done out for 4 times of day: > > http://people.redhat.com/duffy/misc/f9-day-to-night/ > > (used some simple gimp manipulation - using the levels tool - to produce > each variation) > > What do you think? > How do you do this so fast? :D +1 for using these. I see no problems. -- ian From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Apr 7 07:06:37 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:06:37 +0300 Subject: New contributor In-Reply-To: <690974.98568.qm@web25002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <690974.98568.qm@web25002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47F9C7FD.5040308@nicubunu.ro> aigbe austin wrote: > Hi everyone, Hi, > I am a new member of the fedora artwork group. I would > like to contribute immersely to Fedora and promote it > in my country Nigeria. Cool. > I just started using Linux (Ubuntu) some weeks ago and > I'm finding it really interesting. Ubuntu... but how about using Fedora? > MY ART/DESIGN EXPERIENCE > All of my artworks have been on Windows. But, like I > said, I am really interested in Linux. > > Inkscape (level: good) > Adobe photoshop ( " good) > Sketch Pro ( " good) Have you any links to show? > TASK > pls I would like to be assigned a task so that I can > quickly start off as a Fedora artwork contributor. Look here to see if you find something interesting: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Apr 7 07:23:49 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:23:49 +0300 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F9CC05.1000004@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > I've received a few complaints about the f9 wallpaper (it seems the > sulphur is really unpopular) and I've been experimenting with > alternative designs for it but trying to keep the same look and feel of > the rest of the artwork. I saw my share of complaints too, both on my blog and on fedoraforum, interesting how those complains happened only after Round 3. However, and *someone* has to say this, I am concerned about the mixed message we are sending around, I will serve a quote I just read (I was offline over the week-end, so I saw it at about the same time with this thread, even it is a couple of days older), I think you will find this quote familiar: "As I said earlier (if anyone disagrees please speak up, maybe I am alone in this) I think it's far too late in the F9 process to start changing the graphics - we've already completed all of the core graphics for F9 and had them checked into rawhide. This week was the devel freeze for F9 IIRC and it will already be a scramble to get revisions into what we have in as we get feedback on it. To bring a new idea/concept into what we already have I think is too disruptive at this point in the release process, but refinements on the current designs are certainly welcomed." > This is one of the ideas I've been working with - > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/0001.png > > Do you think it's a good direction? Do you have ideas on how to bling it > up? Too bad I was offline and had no chance to speak earlier (all the /temp/ images are gone by now). The version you have blogged about is nice, it have a similar "soft" feeling with Infinity, so I expect people who liked Infinity would like it too. As for the particular implementation, what is the plan for the wide-screen option, add on the edges or just cut from the bottom? (that would work too) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From luya at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 7 09:03:17 2008 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 02:03:17 -0700 Subject: [Waves] revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F9A3C3.1080505@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F926B9.2060303@fedoraproject.org> <47F93CE1.80905@fedoraproject.org> <47F9A3C3.1080505@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F9E355.4000402@fedoraproject.org> M?ir?n Duffy a ?crit : > > The source files (these will be changing as I play around): > > - http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/f9wallpaper/0008.svg - this is > the main background without sparkles; this one you will not be able to > work with unless you go into view >outlines mode. > > - http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/f9wallpaper/sparkles-6.svg - this > is the bitmap output of the 0008.svg file on one layer with vector > sparkles, etc on top. > I have completed the initial set without sparkles background. The goal is to get some feedback and modifications are welcome. http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/waves The sparkles are suitable for the sunset and night background. Unfortunately, importing the sparkles background resulted a broken link when exporting the svg to png. Luya From johannbg at hi.is Mon Apr 7 10:15:57 2008 From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:15:57 +0000 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F9AEDC.7020806@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F926B9.2060303@fedoraproject.org> <47F93CE1.80905@fedoraproject.org> <47F9A3C3.1080505@fedoraproject.org> <47F9AEDC.7020806@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47F9F45D.4090706@hi.is> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Um, okay so that took way more than 45 minutes... sorry!!!! but I've >> been playing with it a lot and think it's getting better. I added >> some bubbles & sparkles and mucked with the ripples such that they >> match the rest of the artwork a little better and look a little bit >> more natural. Here's the mock so far: > > And here's this graphic done out for 4 times of day: > > http://people.redhat.com/duffy/misc/f9-day-to-night/ > > (used some simple gimp manipulation - using the levels tool - to > produce each variation) > > What do you think? > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list +1 beautiful.. A whole new level of *Depth*...' Br, Johann. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Gu?mundsson wrote: >> I think this picture I took could be great addon to fedora's >> wallpaper set.. > > Too bad we don't have an infrastructure in place (a gallery or > something) to allow people to easily submit their contributed > wallpapers... > >> It actually goes very well with the nodoka theme.. >> >> http://www.hi.is/~johannbg/icelandic-horse.jpg >> >> So what the procedure add it to the wallpaper collection. >> and needed/wanted resolutions.. >> ( 800x600, 1024x768,1600x1200,1440x900,1680x1050x 1920x1200,2560x1600 ) > > Do we have a package like fedora-wallpapers-extra? Do we want such one? > AFAIK, we don't have a written policy about including extra wallpapers. > Yep thats missing.. >> Here's a potential avatar material ( needs of course be resized ) > I vote for one.. A contest maybe for each release. Contester given certain theme to work with ( people, ocean, animal,sky,waterfalls, etc ). Even different category's. Best photo shot ( unmodified, No tools allowed to *better/clean the photo or enhance* ), Best photo shot modified ( tools allowed to enhance or better the photo ). Best wallpaper created using opensource tools.. etc Top 3 in each category would get included in the default package.. The rest in fedora-wallpapers-extra-contest-release ( fedora-wallpapers-contest-fc9 ) Oh and heres the link I apparently forgot to post.. http://www.hi.is/~johannbg/icelandic-horse-avatar.jpg Best regards. Johann B. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: johannbg.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 381 bytes Desc: not available URL: From frankly3d at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 10:54:21 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:54:21 +0100 Subject: A wallpaper material or what.. In-Reply-To: <47F9FA5A.9070707@hi.is> References: <47F65B8B.2020301@hi.is> <47F9C0D4.6000307@nicubunu.ro> <47F9FA5A.9070707@hi.is> Message-ID: <1207565661.24438.4.camel@frank-01> On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 10:41 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: > http://www.hi.is/~johannbg/icelandic-horse-avatar.jpg > > Best regards. > Johann B. > Not sure it works a picture\photo, unless abstract, or the basis of something else. I saved it changed the name, asked my audience "the family". Feedback: "What is it, a camel?" At the moment can't see is a a bg\avatar\icon Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From johannbg at hi.is Mon Apr 7 11:28:00 2008 From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:28:00 +0000 Subject: A wallpaper material or what.. In-Reply-To: <1207565661.24438.4.camel@frank-01> References: <47F65B8B.2020301@hi.is> <47F9C0D4.6000307@nicubunu.ro> <47F9FA5A.9070707@hi.is> <1207565661.24438.4.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47FA0540.4000103@hi.is> Frank Murphy wrote: > On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 10:41 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote: > >> Nicu Buculei wrote: >> > > >> http://www.hi.is/~johannbg/icelandic-horse-avatar.jpg >> >> Best regards. >> Johann B. >> >> > > Not sure it works a picture\photo, unless abstract, > or the basis of something else. > > I saved it changed the name, asked my audience "the family". > > Feedback: "What is it, a camel?" > Regardless of your family members believed it was a horse or a camel did they like it? Did it bring up an smile? > At the moment can't see is a a bg\avatar\icon > > Frank > Well it's not just a plain photo of a horse, but indeed nothing spectacular,, but then again a snowman missing his carrot and stones or these that were submitted here http://www.isity.net/blog/?p=65 aren't that glamorous either... Best regards. JB -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: johannbg.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 381 bytes Desc: not available URL: From frankly3d at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 11:41:29 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:41:29 +0100 Subject: A wallpaper material or what.. In-Reply-To: <47FA0540.4000103@hi.is> References: <47F65B8B.2020301@hi.is> <47F9C0D4.6000307@nicubunu.ro> <47F9FA5A.9070707@hi.is> <1207565661.24438.4.camel@frank-01> <47FA0540.4000103@hi.is> Message-ID: <1207568489.25458.9.camel@frank-01> On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 11:28 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: > Feedback: "What is it, a camel?" > > > Regardless of your family members believed it was a horse > or a camel did they like it? > Did it bring up an smile? No, Just Questions. > > > At the moment can't see is a a bg\avatar\icon > > > > Frank > > > Well it's not just a plain photo of a horse, but indeed nothing > spectacular,, > but then again a snowman missing his carrot and stones or these that > were submitted here > http://www.isity.net/blog/?p=65 aren't that glamorous either... > Personal Opinion Here: It's not about being glamorous or not, it's about filling a twofold need. 1: It's a statement, "This is fedora" 2: Give users an artistic experience, with provisos. a) It doesn't distract them b) They understand it, without the need for a written explanation. Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From duffy at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 7 11:56:46 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 07:56:46 -0400 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F9CC05.1000004@nicubunu.ro> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F9CC05.1000004@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47FA0BFE.9010104@fedoraproject.org> Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> >> I've received a few complaints about the f9 wallpaper (it seems the >> sulphur is really unpopular) and I've been experimenting with >> alternative designs for it but trying to keep the same look and feel >> of the rest of the artwork. > > I saw my share of complaints too, both on my blog and on fedoraforum, > interesting how those complains happened only after Round 3. Well probably the round 3 graphics getting checked into rawhide was a big part of it. > > However, and *someone* has to say this, I am concerned about the mixed > message we are sending around, I will serve a quote I just read (I was > offline over the week-end, so I saw it at about the same time with this > thread, even it is a couple of days older), I think you will find this > quote familiar: > > "As I said earlier (if anyone disagrees please speak up, maybe I am > alone in this) I think it's far too late in the F9 process to start > changing the graphics - we've already completed all of the core graphics > for F9 and had them checked into rawhide. This week was the devel freeze > for F9 IIRC and it will already be a scramble to get revisions into what > we have in as we get feedback on it. To bring a new idea/concept into > what we already have I think is too disruptive at this point in the > release process, but refinements on the current designs are certainly > welcomed." These are *not* completely changing the design and are made specifically to match the rest of the artwork that is already finished - the waves are the same as from the RHGB graphic. This revision is more similar to the infinity work we did during round 3 of F8 when we were working with the bridge graphic and based on feedback we shifted to a different form. This is not a new idea or concept. It's the same radiating waves we've had. The whole point of the process, eg getting round 3 into rawhide, RC, etc. is to get feedback as we go along and make changes and updates in accordance with the feedback so we get high-quality, iterated artwork. This is different than completely changing the main graphics involved with the theme and having to re-do every graphic associated with it (something I've no time nor inclination to do and I haven't seen anyone else attempt to do either.) This is different than proposing something new far after the round 1 deadline which would be completely unfair to the folks who did propose by that deadline and were eventually eliminated. This is working within the style and theme that had already went through the process. *That* would have been breaking the process and sending a very bad mixed message. While I understand your point, I also think this is quite different, what do you think? >> This is one of the ideas I've been working with - >> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/0001.png >> >> Do you think it's a good direction? Do you have ideas on how to bling >> it up? > > Too bad I was offline and had no chance to speak earlier (all the /temp/ > images are gone by now). It's under duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/f9graphics or something like that. I have no room left in my fedora people page and I was shifting things around to try to make room :( The version you have blogged about is nice, it > have a similar "soft" feeling with Infinity, so I expect people who > liked Infinity would like it too. > As for the particular implementation, what is the plan for the > wide-screen option, add on the edges or just cut from the bottom? (that > would work too) I was going to cut from the bottom, I made a huge render last night that I'm going to use to make all the various sizes. ~m From duffy at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 7 11:57:37 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 07:57:37 -0400 Subject: [Waves] revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F9E355.4000402@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F926B9.2060303@fedoraproject.org> <47F93CE1.80905@fedoraproject.org> <47F9A3C3.1080505@fedoraproject.org> <47F9E355.4000402@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47FA0C31.6010404@fedoraproject.org> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy a ?crit : >> The source files (these will be changing as I play around): >> >> - http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/f9wallpaper/0008.svg - this is >> the main background without sparkles; this one you will not be able to >> work with unless you go into view >outlines mode. >> >> - http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/f9wallpaper/sparkles-6.svg - this >> is the bitmap output of the 0008.svg file on one layer with vector >> sparkles, etc on top. >> > > I have completed the initial set without sparkles background. The goal > is to get some feedback > and modifications are welcome. > > http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/waves > > The sparkles are suitable for the sunset and night background. > Unfortunately, importing the sparkles background resulted a broken link > when exporting the svg to png. Yeh, I didn't embed the bitmap because I knew it was made with a stale render. If you open up the 0008.svg and re-render it and import that as the background it will work. ~m From markg85 at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 12:04:15 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:04:15 +0200 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47F9AEDC.7020806@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47F926B9.2060303@fedoraproject.org> <47F93CE1.80905@fedoraproject.org> <47F9A3C3.1080505@fedoraproject.org> <47F9AEDC.7020806@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804070504k7881f309qb693af1ae68f1496@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/7, M?ir?n Duffy : > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > > Um, okay so that took way more than 45 minutes... sorry!!!! but I've been > playing with it a lot and think it's getting better. I added some bubbles & > sparkles and mucked with the ripples such that they match the rest of the > artwork a little better and look a little bit more natural. Here's the mock > so far: > > > > And here's this graphic done out for 4 times of day: > > http://people.redhat.com/duffy/misc/f9-day-to-night/ > > (used some simple gimp manipulation - using the levels tool - to produce > each variation) > > What do you think? WOW extremely nice!! Can you make some widescreens as well? From johannbg at hi.is Mon Apr 7 12:16:48 2008 From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:16:48 +0000 Subject: A wallpaper material or what.. In-Reply-To: <1207568489.25458.9.camel@frank-01> References: <47F65B8B.2020301@hi.is> <47F9C0D4.6000307@nicubunu.ro> <47F9FA5A.9070707@hi.is> <1207565661.24438.4.camel@frank-01> <47FA0540.4000103@hi.is> <1207568489.25458.9.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47FA10B0.3010501@hi.is> Frank Murphy wrote: > On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 11:28 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote: > >> Frank Murphy wrote: >> Feedback: "What is it, a camel?" >> >>> >>> >> Regardless of your family members believed it was a horse >> or a camel did they like it? >> Did it bring up an smile? >> > > > No, Just Questions. > > Not the response I was hoping for but a response never the less. Hum.. maybe I just create an poster out of it and bring the focusing on the tongue and what it represents by some text underneath the picture.. >>> At the moment can't see is a a bg\avatar\icon >>> >>> Frank >>> >>> >> Well it's not just a plain photo of a horse, but indeed nothing >> spectacular,, >> but then again a snowman missing his carrot and stones or these that >> were submitted here >> http://www.isity.net/blog/?p=65 aren't that glamorous either... >> >> > > Personal Opinion Here: > It's not about being glamorous or not, > it's about filling a twofold need. > > 1: It's a statement, "This is fedora" > How does 2 white balls aligned on top of each other, a snowman, a keyhole, a pawn or whatever the default avatar in gdm is suppose to be, say it's fedora or what fedora represents. With the whole avatar thing I feel we should pack bunch of user contributed avatars, make a more fedora specific one for the Default and Automatic login. And let users choose avatar in firstboot. 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GNOME is maintained by general Desktop SIG, KDE is maintained by KDE SIG, but everything else is just put in repository without much additional love. Seeing how popular XFCE is on low horsepower computers like EeePC, this raises question - shouldn't we have XFCE SIG? 2008/4/7 Frank Murphy : > Running F8-XFCE on torrent box, > > Has any thought being put into XFCE F9? > > Splash Screen, Fedora Logo on taskbar? > > > Frank > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- http://scwlab.com From johannbg at hi.is Mon Apr 7 12:48:25 2008 From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:48:25 +0000 Subject: A wallpaper material or what.. In-Reply-To: <47F9FA5A.9070707@hi.is> References: <47F65B8B.2020301@hi.is> <47F9C0D4.6000307@nicubunu.ro> <47F9FA5A.9070707@hi.is> Message-ID: <47FA1819.3040602@hi.is> > I vote for one.. > > A contest maybe for each release. > Contester given certain theme to work with ( people, ocean, > animal,sky,waterfalls, etc ). > Even different category's. Best photo shot ( unmodified, No tools > allowed to *better/clean the photo or enhance* ), Might wanna have one exciting category hidden picture in picture.. For example take a look at the album art on Uriah Heep Demons and Wizards.. Album artist site is here http://www.rogerdean.com/ > Best photo shot modified ( tools allowed to enhance or better the > photo ). Best wallpaper created using opensource tools.. etc > Top 3 in each category would get included in the default package.. > The rest in fedora-wallpapers-extra-contest-release ( > fedora-wallpapers-contest-fc9 ) > > Oh and heres the link I apparently forgot to post.. > > http://www.hi.is/~johannbg/icelandic-horse-avatar.jpg > > Best regards. > Johann B. > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Well, I maintain the Xfce spin and there is just two people working on packaging Xfce. We usually sort things out in bugzilla or IRC. I discussed briefly the idea of a SIG but that hasn't happened yet. If anyone is interested in contributing, I can create one. Rahul From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.net Mon Apr 7 09:14:50 2008 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.net (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 02:14:50 -0700 Subject: A wallpaper material or what.. In-Reply-To: <47F9C0D4.6000307@nicubunu.ro> References: <47F65B8B.2020301@hi.is> <47F9C0D4.6000307@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47F9E60A.30903@thefinalzone.net> Nicu Buculei a ?crit : > Do we have a package like fedora-wallpapers-extra? Do we want such one? > AFAIK, we don't have a written policy about including extra wallpapers. Searching inside the wiki, here is the result: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Backgrounds/Basics Perhaps that rule should be rewritten. One thing for sure, no offensive wallpapers. Luya From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Apr 7 14:16:10 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:16:10 +0300 Subject: A wallpaper material or what.. In-Reply-To: <1207568489.25458.9.camel@frank-01> References: <47F65B8B.2020301@hi.is> <47F9C0D4.6000307@nicubunu.ro> <47F9FA5A.9070707@hi.is> <1207565661.24438.4.camel@frank-01> <47FA0540.4000103@hi.is> <1207568489.25458.9.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47FA2CAA.9090506@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 11:28 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote: >> Frank Murphy wrote: >>> At the moment can't see is a a bg\avatar\icon >>> >> Well it's not just a plain photo of a horse, but indeed nothing >> spectacular,, >> but then again a snowman missing his carrot and stones or these that >> were submitted here >> http://www.isity.net/blog/?p=65 aren't that glamorous either... >> > > Personal Opinion Here: > It's not about being glamorous or not, > it's about filling a twofold need. > > 1: It's a statement, "This is fedora" No. We are talking about avatars, the statement told by an avatar is "this is *me*". Avatars represent people and they should fit a number of person types. > 2: Give users an artistic experience, with provisos. > a) It doesn't distract them > b) They understand it, without the need for a written explanation. Nope. An avatar is supposed to stand-out, to help you recognize your personality from a bung of people (your login in the face browser, your account in the user switcher, etc.) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Apr 7 14:31:38 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:31:38 +0300 Subject: A wallpaper material or what.. In-Reply-To: <47F9E60A.30903@thefinalzone.net> References: <47F65B8B.2020301@hi.is> <47F9C0D4.6000307@nicubunu.ro> <47F9E60A.30903@thefinalzone.net> Message-ID: <47FA304A.1090609@nicubunu.ro> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Nicu Buculei a ?crit : >> Do we have a package like fedora-wallpapers-extra? Do we want such one? >> AFAIK, we don't have a written policy about including extra wallpapers. > Searching inside the wiki, here is the result: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Backgrounds/Basics > > Perhaps that rule should be rewritten. One thing for sure, no offensive > wallpapers. Yeah, that section is ooooooold and could use a rewrite. But I think the "best" rule is to set no rule (well, almost no rule, avoid only illegal stuff). People can submit anything, we can select what we think is useful (some may want to submit ugly, tasteless, badly usable images and some may like and want to use them, who are we to judge them?). That would be the beauty of having a public gallery - allow people to interact directly. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Apr 7 14:35:31 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:35:31 +0300 Subject: A wallpaper material or what.. In-Reply-To: <47F9FA5A.9070707@hi.is> References: <47F65B8B.2020301@hi.is> <47F9C0D4.6000307@nicubunu.ro> <47F9FA5A.9070707@hi.is> Message-ID: <47FA3133.6020200@nicubunu.ro> J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote: > I vote for one.. > > A contest maybe for each release. > Contester given certain theme to work with ( people, ocean, > animal,sky,waterfalls, etc ). > Even different category's. Best photo shot ( unmodified, No tools > allowed to *better/clean the photo or enhance* ), > Best photo shot modified ( tools allowed to enhance or better the photo > ). Best wallpaper created using opensource tools.. etc > Top 3 in each category would get included in the default package.. > The rest in fedora-wallpapers-extra-contest-release ( > fedora-wallpapers-contest-fc9 ) The absolute minimum for such a think (which I also find useful) would be for us to have a kind of online gallery where to post the images and have viewers, votes, comments. So far we and the infrastructure people were not able to come with a good solution for that. We talked about MediaWiki, Gallery2, other galleries, integration of MediaWiki and Gallery 2 and such. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From frankly3d at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 14:36:01 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:36:01 +0100 Subject: A wallpaper material or what.. In-Reply-To: <47FA2CAA.9090506@nicubunu.ro> References: <47F65B8B.2020301@hi.is> <47F9C0D4.6000307@nicubunu.ro> <47F9FA5A.9070707@hi.is> <1207565661.24438.4.camel@frank-01> <47FA0540.4000103@hi.is> <1207568489.25458.9.camel@frank-01> <47FA2CAA.9090506@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1207578961.30299.5.camel@frank-01> On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 17:16 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > No. We are talking about avatars, the statement told by an avatar is > "this is *me*". Avatars represent people and they should fit a number of > person types. True, but packaged in a distro, avatar "could" equate to icon, which is clearly done. > > > 2: Give users an artistic experience, with provisos. > > a) It doesn't distract them > > b) They understand it, without the need for a written explanation. > > Nope. An avatar is supposed to stand-out, to help you recognize your > personality from a bung of people (your login in the face browser, your > account in the user switcher, etc.) Correct, but you are not going to use one, that confuses, or have no idea as to meaning\representaion. Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From johannbg at hi.is Mon Apr 7 14:54:17 2008 From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:54:17 +0000 Subject: A wallpaper material or what.. In-Reply-To: <47FA2CAA.9090506@nicubunu.ro> References: <47F65B8B.2020301@hi.is> <47F9C0D4.6000307@nicubunu.ro> <47F9FA5A.9070707@hi.is> <1207565661.24438.4.camel@frank-01> <47FA0540.4000103@hi.is> <1207568489.25458.9.camel@frank-01> <47FA2CAA.9090506@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47FA3599.1050602@hi.is> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: >> On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 11:28 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote: >>> Frank Murphy wrote: >>>> At the moment can't see is a a bg\avatar\icon >>>> >>> Well it's not just a plain photo of a horse, but indeed nothing >>> spectacular,, >>> but then again a snowman missing his carrot and stones or these that >>> were submitted here >>> http://www.isity.net/blog/?p=65 aren't that glamorous either... >>> >> >> Personal Opinion Here: >> It's not about being glamorous or not, it's about filling a twofold >> need. >> >> 1: It's a statement, "This is fedora" > > No. We are talking about avatars, the statement told by an avatar is > "this is *me*". Avatars represent people and they should fit a number of > person types. > >> 2: Give users an artistic experience, with provisos. >> a) It doesn't distract them >> b) They understand it, without the need for a written explanation. > > Nope. 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Name: johannbg.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 381 bytes Desc: not available URL: From markg85 at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 15:01:02 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:01:02 +0200 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <1207330584.2070.0.camel@fedora> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> <1207313391.4468.37.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040633h4937e095nb7682fecc8894828@mail.gmail.com> <1207319269.4468.59.camel@pc-notebook> <1207330584.2070.0.camel@fedora> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804070801t40f4d9f2qc6e067039a02aee4@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/4, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek : > > Not fast is not an option. Either working fast (and stable) or it is not > > acceptable as default. Also, AFAIK, whether the compositing is turned on > > or not depends on window manager (in our case metacity), not gtk or even > > theme engine. > > > Nah... Not true. You can use xcompmgr ;) . I'm getting very little responses here to improve my mockup. is there just no interest for it? does fedora even want me to put time in this? So... i want to improve it further (assuming that's needed) so give the mockup some critics so that i can improve it! the motivation to continue with this isn't really high.. i need feedback on this one! And if i post it to the devel list i probably only get notices again that it belongs here (where not a lot of people reply). From duffy at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 7 15:33:13 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:33:13 -0400 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper - workitems In-Reply-To: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47FA3EB9.9000509@fedoraproject.org> Hi folks, So here is what has to be done to get this new wallpaper into rawhide & the release candidate: 1 - integrate hi-res (2560x1920) render of background [1] with the sparkles svg [2] so they are the same size and line up. Export this. 2 - from the integrated 2560x1920 bitmap, create the 4 time-of-day colors. Do this *before* proceeding to the next step so you can get feedback before finding out after going thru all the resolution iterations that the coloring/shading was off. Thus far we've heard a few complaints that the proposed daylight one is way too bright. 3 - from the integrated 2560x1920 bitmap, iterate through to create a full set of background sizes, cropping from the bottom when necessary to achieve a widescreen ratio. Here are the sizes I think we should target (let me know what you think): Normal Ratio: - 2560x1600 - 1600x1200 - 1024x768 - 800x600 Widescreen Ratio: - 1680x1050 - 1440x900 - 1280x800 (do these seem right?) I'm going to start working on this tonight but if you've got some spare time today and want to help out please feel free to get started on steps #1 and #2. I'll be in #fedora-art on freenode and also on list of course so we can sync up tonight. ~m From duffy at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 7 15:35:18 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:35:18 -0400 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper - workitems In-Reply-To: <47FA3EB9.9000509@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47FA3EB9.9000509@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47FA3F36.1030100@fedoraproject.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi folks, > > So here is what has to be done to get this new wallpaper into rawhide & > the release candidate: > > 1 - integrate hi-res (2560x1920) render of background [1] with the > sparkles svg [2] so they are the same size and line up. Export this. Would help if I provided them eh? :) [1] http://people.redhat.com/duffy/misc/f9-day-to-night/hi-res/0008_2560x1920.png [2] http://people.redhat.com/duffy/misc/f9-day-to-night/hi-res/sparkles-1.svg From jonrob at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 7 15:42:48 2008 From: jonrob at fedoraproject.org (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:42:48 +0100 Subject: fp.o home? Message-ID: <1207582968.6123.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hey all, I remembered that there was some talk a while ago about a new design for the fp.o page whilst I was looking on the websites list at the designs for the spins' pages. I got a little inspired and decided to try and make it in html/css, and you can see the result here: http://jonrob.fedorapeople.org/fp_home.png Maybe for the websites list too, but I didn't want to cross-post and couldn't decide where to post! Best wishes, Jon From martin.sourada at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 15:52:10 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:52:10 +0200 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804070801t40f4d9f2qc6e067039a02aee4@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> <1207313391.4468.37.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040633h4937e095nb7682fecc8894828@mail.gmail.com> <1207319269.4468.59.camel@pc-notebook> <1207330584.2070.0.camel@fedora> <6e24a8e80804070801t40f4d9f2qc6e067039a02aee4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1207583530.3232.17.camel@pc-notebook> On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 17:01 +0200, Mark wrote: > 2008/4/4, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek : > I'm getting very little responses here to improve my mockup. > is there just no interest for it? does fedora even want me to put time in this? > > So... i want to improve it further (assuming that's needed) so give > the mockup some critics so that i can improve it! > > the motivation to continue with this isn't really high.. i need > feedback on this one! > And if i post it to the devel list i probably only get notices again > that it belongs here (where not a lot of people reply). > There's a lot of conversation going on in the art list lately, and most of us is focusing on the F9 artwork, so it's natural that you've got not much of a feedback. Besides, it DOES matter what YOU'd like to do. It's not that we don't care, but sometimes it isn't easy to come up with specific critics (especially if it's "only" mockups). I'll make sure I won't forget this thread and reply to you in this matter fully when I think it through more deeply, but right now I am focusing on getting the nodoka gtk engine 0.7.0 release done in time, so please be a little more patient. The best I could suggest you though right now is this: make a wiki page dedicated to the Notify design, and make a single thread clearly stating that it's only about the notification-daemon design. You'll need to gather some info, how can we do that (meaning the real theme) and even if you would be not able to do it yourself, it would help us to put all the info on the wiki. As for the design itself: when the real code is being done, there is still a plenty of room for improvement based on the usage experience, so do not feel obliged to come up with an awesome design from the start. And once again, I plan to make some sketches, based on your design, as well and will comment on the notify design when I am done with them :) Thanks, Martin PS: And remember that most of us, like you, are doing these things in our spare time, so if there isn't enough of that, we do not reply much to the stuff, or to everything, what goes on here, so do not feel disappointed by the lack of as much critics as you might like ;-) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Otherwise we waste a lot of disk space. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From markg85 at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 16:34:01 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 18:34:01 +0200 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper - workitems In-Reply-To: <47FA49F0.2010402@nicubunu.ro> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47FA3EB9.9000509@fedoraproject.org> <47FA49F0.2010402@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804070934n5b145972u4bef761cbe584051@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/7, Nicu Buculei : > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > > > > Normal Ratio: > > - 2560x1600 > > > > that one is widescreen > > > > - 1600x1200 > > - 1024x768 > > - 800x600 > > > > Widescreen Ratio: > > - 1680x1050 > > - 1440x900 > > - 1280x800 > > > > I believe there is also 1920x1200 > > > > (do these seem right?) > > > > Currently we have in Rawhide also: > - 1280x1024 (a *lot* of people use this) > - 800x480 (Eee PC) > > Do we need *all* those sizes? We can't have only the largest (1600x1200 for > normal and 2560x1600 for wide) and let them be scaled down (as is the case > in F8)? Otherwise we waste a lot of disk space. The sizes you posted seem right to me.. But about the sizes.. Nautilus can handly SVG backgrounds so why not put that one in the dist? then you can drop all the other images.. unless that's not gonna work with day/night wallpapers (fancy and nice but not really useful anyway). From duffy at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 7 16:38:41 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:38:41 -0400 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper - workitems In-Reply-To: <47FA49F0.2010402@nicubunu.ro> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47FA3EB9.9000509@fedoraproject.org> <47FA49F0.2010402@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47FA4E11.2030301@fedoraproject.org> Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> >> Normal Ratio: >> - 2560x1600 > > that one is widescreen Whoops I meant 2560x1920! good catch. > >> - 1600x1200 >> - 1024x768 >> - 800x600 >> >> Widescreen Ratio: >> - 1680x1050 >> - 1440x900 >> - 1280x800 > > I believe there is also 1920x1200 > >> (do these seem right?) > > Currently we have in Rawhide also: > - 1280x1024 (a *lot* of people use this) > - 800x480 (Eee PC) +1 > > Do we need *all* those sizes? We can't have only the largest (1600x1200 > for normal and 2560x1600 for wide) and let them be scaled down (as is > the case in F8)? Otherwise we waste a lot of disk space. Well, I'm not sure. For Live CDs I think 2560x1920 (~2-3MB) is going to be too much. Maybe we should pick the largest sane widescreen + normal and then just let folks scale down from that? Nautilus' scaling down of the wallpaper does a very good job IMHO. ~m From duffy at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 7 16:41:00 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:41:00 -0400 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper - workitems In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804070934n5b145972u4bef761cbe584051@mail.gmail.com> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47FA3EB9.9000509@fedoraproject.org> <47FA49F0.2010402@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804070934n5b145972u4bef761cbe584051@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47FA4E9C.9080601@fedoraproject.org> Hi Mark, Mark wrote: > The sizes you posted seem right to me.. > But about the sizes.. Nautilus can handly SVG backgrounds so why not > put that one in the dist? then you can drop all the other images.. > unless that's not gonna work with day/night wallpapers (fancy and nice > but not really useful anyway). I don't think Nautilus can handle the blur filter in the backgrounds. Also I still think librsvg doesn't support the SVG cropping functionality (for widescreen) ~m From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 7 17:10:09 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:40:09 +0530 Subject: fp.o home? In-Reply-To: <1207582968.6123.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1207582968.6123.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <47FA5571.1060907@fedoraproject.org> Jonathan Roberts wrote: > Hey all, > > I remembered that there was some talk a while ago about a new design for > the fp.o page whilst I was looking on the websites list at the designs > for the spins' pages. > > I got a little inspired and decided to try and make it in html/css, and > you can see the result here: > > http://jonrob.fedorapeople.org/fp_home.png > > Maybe for the websites list too, but I didn't want to cross-post and > couldn't decide where to post! A few thoughts: * Download is more clear since what that is what more people end up looking for rather than "get fedora". The actual contents on the page it leads do can expand on the possibilities besides download to get fedora however. * We have traditionally avoided the word 'support' since people might confuse community help with commercial support contracts. This was atleast a concern when differentiating Fedora and RHEL. Not sure that is much of a problem anymore. * Even if we run the big banners (which I like btw since we have a lot of space), there should be still some space where we would run the small banner rotations. * Why haven't we switched to auto language selection based on the system locale? * The link to beta release notes can probably be dropped now. * Can you check how this design works with the RSS feed mockups quaid has posted at http://quaid.fedorapeople.org/websites/index-rss.html Rahul From stlwrt at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 17:22:39 2008 From: stlwrt at gmail.com (Pavel Shevchuk) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 20:22:39 +0300 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper - workitems In-Reply-To: <47FA4E9C.9080601@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47FA3EB9.9000509@fedoraproject.org> <47FA49F0.2010402@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804070934n5b145972u4bef761cbe584051@mail.gmail.com> <47FA4E9C.9080601@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: You can put in package largest square and wide wpaps and on package installation call imagemagick to scale them down to different sizes On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 7:41 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi Mark, > > > Mark wrote: > > > The sizes you posted seem right to me.. > > But about the sizes.. Nautilus can handly SVG backgrounds so why not > > put that one in the dist? then you can drop all the other images.. > > unless that's not gonna work with day/night wallpapers (fancy and nice > > but not really useful anyway). > > > > I don't think Nautilus can handle the blur filter in the backgrounds. Also > I still think librsvg doesn't support the SVG cropping functionality (for > widescreen) > > ~m > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- http://scwlab.com From duffy at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 7 17:49:56 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:49:56 -0400 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper - workitems In-Reply-To: References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47FA3EB9.9000509@fedoraproject.org> <47FA49F0.2010402@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804070934n5b145972u4bef761cbe584051@mail.gmail.com> <47FA4E9C.9080601@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47FA5EC4.3070603@fedoraproject.org> Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > You can put in package largest square and wide wpaps and on package > installation call imagemagick to scale them down to different sizes Does imagemagick support the SVG blur filter? ~m From stlwrt at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 18:33:22 2008 From: stlwrt at gmail.com (Pavel Shevchuk) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 21:33:22 +0300 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper - workitems In-Reply-To: <47FA5EC4.3070603@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47FA3EB9.9000509@fedoraproject.org> <47FA49F0.2010402@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804070934n5b145972u4bef761cbe584051@mail.gmail.com> <47FA4E9C.9080601@fedoraproject.org> <47FA5EC4.3070603@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: >From package description: ImageMagick can read and write JPEG, TIFF, PNM, GIF, and Photo CD image formats I meant to package ridiculously large PNGs with different aspect ratios, then scale them down On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:49 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > > > You can put in package largest square and wide wpaps and on package > > installation call imagemagick to scale them down to different sizes > > > > Does imagemagick support the SVG blur filter? > > > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- http://scwlab.com From johannbg at hi.is Mon Apr 7 18:44:20 2008 From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:44:20 +0000 Subject: fp.o home? In-Reply-To: <47FA5571.1060907@fedoraproject.org> References: <1207582968.6123.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47FA5571.1060907@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47FA6B84.3040000@hi.is> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Jonathan Roberts wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> I remembered that there was some talk a while ago about a new design for >> the fp.o page whilst I was looking on the websites list at the designs >> for the spins' pages. >> >> I got a little inspired and decided to try and make it in html/css, and >> you can see the result here: >> >> http://jonrob.fedorapeople.org/fp_home.png >> >> Maybe for the websites list too, but I didn't want to cross-post and >> couldn't decide where to post! > > A few thoughts: > > * Download is more clear since what that is what more people end up > looking for rather than "get fedora". The actual contents on the page > it leads do can expand on the possibilities besides download to get > fedora however. > +1 > * We have traditionally avoided the word 'support' since people might > confuse community help with commercial support contracts. This was > atleast a concern when differentiating Fedora and RHEL. Not sure that > is much of a problem anymore. > Community support.. > * Even if we run the big banners (which I like btw since we have a lot > of space), there should be still some space where we would run the > small banner rotations. > +1 > * Why haven't we switched to auto language selection based on the > system locale? > +1 JB... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That's a great idea though, thanks! ~m From luya at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 7 19:52:15 2008 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:52:15 -0700 Subject: Miniumum time for animated background? Message-ID: <47FA7B6F.6080400@fedoraproject.org> Based on Mairin wave theme, I have create a set of wallpapers under the folder wave-test. Is there a minimum of time to set the animated background using infiniti.xml as reference? My version is called wave-test.xml. I have tried to use it but nothing happened on the screen. Luya Reference: http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/waves/ From tatadbb at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 20:38:46 2008 From: tatadbb at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:08:46 +1930 Subject: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <1207583530.3232.17.camel@pc-notebook> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> <1207313391.4468.37.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040633h4937e095nb7682fecc8894828@mail.gmail.com> <1207319269.4468.59.camel@pc-notebook> <1207330584.2070.0.camel@fedora> <6e24a8e80804070801t40f4d9f2qc6e067039a02aee4@mail.gmail.com> <1207583530.3232.17.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <27a6293b0804071338h7a05a1d5nc5e607937718264e@mail.gmail.com> I would love to see some more eyecandy in this next release of Fedora, something more graphicall. i think either on version 6 or 7 we had something like that. What do you thing of something like this: http://www.3d-fantasyart.net/fantasy/secret_valley.jpg 2008/4/8, Martin Sourada : > > On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 17:01 +0200, Mark wrote: > > 2008/4/4, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek : > > > I'm getting very little responses here to improve my mockup. > > is there just no interest for it? does fedora even want me to put time > in this? > > > > So... i want to improve it further (assuming that's needed) so give > > the mockup some critics so that i can improve it! > > > > the motivation to continue with this isn't really high.. i need > > feedback on this one! > > And if i post it to the devel list i probably only get notices again > > that it belongs here (where not a lot of people reply). > > > > > There's a lot of conversation going on in the art list lately, and most > of us is focusing on the F9 artwork, so it's natural that you've got not > much of a feedback. Besides, it DOES matter what YOU'd like to do. It's > not that we don't care, but sometimes it isn't easy to come up with > specific critics (especially if it's "only" mockups). > > I'll make sure I won't forget this thread and reply to you in this > matter fully when I think it through more deeply, but right now I am > focusing on getting the nodoka gtk engine 0.7.0 release done in time, so > please be a little more patient. > > The best I could suggest you though right now is this: make a wiki page > dedicated to the Notify design, and make a single thread clearly stating > that it's only about the notification-daemon design. You'll need to > gather some info, how can we do that (meaning the real theme) and even > if you would be not able to do it yourself, it would help us to put all > the info on the wiki. > > As for the design itself: when the real code is being done, there is > still a plenty of room for improvement based on the usage experience, so > do not feel obliged to come up with an awesome design from the start. > > And once again, I plan to make some sketches, based on your design, as > well and will comment on the notify design when I am done with them :) > > Thanks, > Martin > > PS: And remember that most of us, like you, are doing these things in > our spare time, so if there isn't enough of that, we do not reply much > to the stuff, or to everything, what goes on here, so do not feel > disappointed by the lack of as much critics as you might like ;-) > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 7 21:11:34 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:41:34 +0530 Subject: F9 XFCE In-Reply-To: <1207579103.30299.9.camel@frank-01> References: <1207571653.26660.2.camel@frank-01> <47FA2C36.7060401@fedoraproject.org> <1207579103.30299.9.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47FA8E06.8090006@fedoraproject.org> Frank Murphy wrote: > On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 19:44 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> Well, I maintain the Xfce spin and there is just two people working on >> packaging Xfce. We usually sort things out in bugzilla or IRC. I >> discussed briefly the idea of a SIG but that hasn't happened yet. If >> anyone is interested in contributing, I can create one. >> >> Rahul > > An not a coder\programmer. > But would be willing to help in an art way. > Or in other ways if shown\told what to do. Ok. We are running a informal poll in fedora-devel list to estimate interest in this. Let's see. Rahul From frankly3d at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 21:14:36 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:14:36 +0100 Subject: 3D Art was Re: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0804071338h7a05a1d5nc5e607937718264e@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> <1207313391.4468.37.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040633h4937e095nb7682fecc8894828@mail.gmail.com> <1207319269.4468.59.camel@pc-notebook> <1207330584.2070.0.camel@fedora> <6e24a8e80804070801t40f4d9f2qc6e067039a02aee4@mail.gmail.com> <1207583530.3232.17.camel@pc-notebook> <27a6293b0804071338h7a05a1d5nc5e607937718264e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1207602876.14615.13.camel@frank-01> On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 16:08 +0000, Mar?a Leandro wrote: > I would love to see some more eyecandy in this next release of Fedora, > something more graphicall. i think either on version 6 or 7 we had > something like that. > > What do you thing of something like this: > > http://www.3d-fantasyart.net/fantasy/secret_valley.jpg > > That picture would have been made with Bryce, and possible Poser\Daz|studio for the "Horses". Trees probably from Bryce tree lab or imported from X-Frog. Nice background material, and time consuming to create, using repo apps. But give me the time. Using closed, you could have it in an hour or two. But that is not the road to take. At the moment, have not come across any f\oss, quadrupeds. So modelling is required. Anatomically correct horse, would take time. Trees another problem. But I do agree 3d is nice -eye-candy, maybe for an extras package. And I will personally start using Blender to that aim. In the interim 3d should maybe be kept light (time-wise). Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm making something like that but in inkscape. Let's see what came up with. See ya! 2008/4/8, Frank Murphy : > > > On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 16:08 +0000, Mar?a Leandro wrote: > > I would love to see some more eyecandy in this next release of Fedora, > > something more graphicall. i think either on version 6 or 7 we had > > something like that. > > > > What do you thing of something like this: > > > > http://www.3d-fantasyart.net/fantasy/secret_valley.jpg > > > > > That picture would have been made with Bryce, > and possible Poser\Daz|studio for the "Horses". > Trees probably from Bryce tree lab or imported from X-Frog. > > > Nice background material, and time consuming to create, > using repo apps. But give me the time. > > Using closed, you could have it in an hour or two. > But that is not the road to take. > At the moment, have not come across any f\oss, > quadrupeds. So modelling is required. > Anatomically correct horse, would take time. > Trees another problem. > > But I do agree 3d is nice -eye-candy, > maybe for an extras package. > > And I will personally start using Blender to that aim. > In the interim 3d should maybe be kept light (time-wise). > > > Frank > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From duffy at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 7 21:40:46 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:40:46 -0400 Subject: 3D Art was Re: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <1207602876.14615.13.camel@frank-01> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> <1207313391.4468.37.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040633h4937e095nb7682fecc8894828@mail.gmail.com> <1207319269.4468.59.camel@pc-notebook> <1207330584.2070.0.camel@fedora> <6e24a8e80804070801t40f4d9f2qc6e067039a02aee4@mail.gmail.com> <1207583530.3232.17.camel@pc-notebook> <27a6293b0804071338h7a05a1d5nc5e607937718264e@mail.gmail.com> <1207602876.14615.13.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47FA94DE.7050309@fedoraproject.org> Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 16:08 +0000, Mar?a Leandro wrote: >> I would love to see some more eyecandy in this next release of Fedora, >> something more graphicall. i think either on version 6 or 7 we had >> something like that. >> >> What do you thing of something like this: >> >> http://www.3d-fantasyart.net/fantasy/secret_valley.jpg >> >> > That picture would have been made with Bryce, > and possible Poser\Daz|studio for the "Horses". > Trees probably from Bryce tree lab or imported from X-Frog. > > > Nice background material, and time consuming to create, > using repo apps. But give me the time. > > Using closed, you could have it in an hour or two. > But that is not the road to take. > At the moment, have not come across any f\oss, > quadrupeds. So modelling is required. > Anatomically correct horse, would take time. > Trees another problem. > > But I do agree 3d is nice -eye-candy, > maybe for an extras package. > > And I will personally start using Blender to that aim. > In the interim 3d should maybe be kept light (time-wise). There are quite a few free models for Blender out there. Mancandy is one notable one: http://www.blendernation.com/2007/10/18/mancandy-officially-released/ More here: http://e2-productions.com/repository/index.php If you google around you will find lots. ~m From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 7 21:44:35 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 03:14:35 +0530 Subject: F9 XFCE In-Reply-To: <1207603016.15000.1.camel@frank-01> References: <1207571653.26660.2.camel@frank-01> <47FA2C36.7060401@fedoraproject.org> <1207579103.30299.9.camel@frank-01> <47FA8E06.8090006@fedoraproject.org> <1207603016.15000.1.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47FA95C3.2030701@fedoraproject.org> Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 02:41 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> Ok. We are running a informal poll in fedora-devel list to estimate >> interest in this. Let's see. >> >> Rahul >> > > Should I join fedora-devel list? If you want offer your comments on this, sure. Rahul From ianweller at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 22:21:33 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:21:33 -0500 (CDT) Subject: revised f9 wallpaper - workitems In-Reply-To: <47FA49F0.2010402@nicubunu.ro> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47FA3EB9.9000509@fedoraproject.org> <47FA49F0.2010402@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> >> Normal Ratio: >> - 2560x1600 > > that one is widescreen > >> - 1600x1200 >> - 1024x768 >> - 800x600 >> >> Widescreen Ratio: >> - 1680x1050 >> - 1440x900 >> - 1280x800 > > I believe there is also 1920x1200 > >> (do these seem right?) > > Currently we have in Rawhide also: > - 1280x1024 (a *lot* of people use this) > - 800x480 (Eee PC) > > Do we need *all* those sizes? We can't have only the largest (1600x1200 > for normal and 2560x1600 for wide) and let them be scaled down (as is > the case in F8)? Otherwise we waste a lot of disk space. > I'll render 1600x1200. Should be done near 03:00 UTC or so. Theoretically we shouldn't have to render any other 4:3 wallpapers, unless we want larger, which we shouldn't need. -- ian From brianhurren at yahoo.com Tue Apr 8 04:17:12 2008 From: brianhurren at yahoo.com (brian hurren) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 21:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: A wallpaper material or what.. In-Reply-To: <47FA2CAA.9090506@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <175148.34606.qm@web51306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> What do people think of using stereo(red/cyan anaglyph) wallpaper for fedora 10. anaglyph can be desined so that it looks good with or without glasses. also how do you set up a wiki so I can post examples? Nicu Buculei wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: > On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 11:28 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote: >> Frank Murphy wrote: >>> At the moment can't see is a a bg\avatar\icon >>> >> Well it's not just a plain photo of a horse, but indeed nothing >> spectacular,, >> but then again a snowman missing his carrot and stones or these that >> were submitted here >> http://www.isity.net/blog/?p=65 aren't that glamorous either... >> > > Personal Opinion Here: > It's not about being glamorous or not, > it's about filling a twofold need. > > 1: It's a statement, "This is fedora" No. We are talking about avatars, the statement told by an avatar is "this is *me*". Avatars represent people and they should fit a number of person types. > 2: Give users an artistic experience, with provisos. > a) It doesn't distract them > b) They understand it, without the need for a written explanation. Nope. An avatar is supposed to stand-out, to help you recognize your personality from a bung of people (your login in the face browser, your account in the user switcher, etc.) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Apr 8 06:01:28 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 09:01:28 +0300 Subject: A wallpaper material or what.. In-Reply-To: <175148.34606.qm@web51306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <175148.34606.qm@web51306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47FB0A38.8050008@nicubunu.ro> brian hurren wrote: > What do people think of using stereo(red/cyan anaglyph) wallpaper for > fedora 10. anaglyph can be desined so that it looks good with or without > glasses. also how do you set up a wiki so I can post examples? Here is the wiki section where concepts are expected: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Apr 8 06:12:30 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 09:12:30 +0300 Subject: Miniumum time for animated background? In-Reply-To: <47FA7B6F.6080400@fedoraproject.org> References: <47FA7B6F.6080400@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47FB0CCE.1070503@nicubunu.ro> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Based on Mairin wave theme, I have create a set of wallpapers under the > folder wave-test. > Is there a minimum of time to set the animated background using > infiniti.xml as reference? > My version is called wave-test.xml. I have tried to use it but nothing > happened on the screen. Use as a reference Martins wawe.xml from Rawhide, it is animated and also multi resolution. I believe it is here: http://mso.fedorapeople.org/waves/ -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From frankly3d at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 06:56:23 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 07:56:23 +0100 Subject: 3D Art was Re: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10 In-Reply-To: <47FA94DE.7050309@fedoraproject.org> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> <1207313391.4468.37.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040633h4937e095nb7682fecc8894828@mail.gmail.com> <1207319269.4468.59.camel@pc-notebook> <1207330584.2070.0.camel@fedora> <6e24a8e80804070801t40f4d9f2qc6e067039a02aee4@mail.gmail.com> <1207583530.3232.17.camel@pc-notebook> <27a6293b0804071338h7a05a1d5nc5e607937718264e@mail.gmail.com> <1207602876.14615.13.camel@frank-01> <47FA94DE.7050309@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1207637783.3261.2.camel@frank-01> On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 17:40 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: > > At the moment, have not come across any f\oss, > > quadrupeds. So modelling is required. > > Anatomically correct horse, would take time. > > Trees another problem. > > > > But I do agree 3d is nice -eye-candy, > > maybe for an extras package. > > > > And I will personally start using Blender to that aim. > > In the interim 3d should maybe be kept light (time-wise). > > There are quite a few free models for Blender out there. Mancandy is one > notable one: > http://www.blendernation.com/2007/10/18/mancandy-officially-released/ Anatomically correct, not > More here: > > http://e2-productions.com/repository/index.php > > If you google around you will find lots. > As above no quods Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm making something like that but in inkscape. Let's see what > came up with. > Excellent Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From luya at fedoraproject.org Tue Apr 8 09:31:18 2008 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:31:18 -0700 Subject: Miniumum time for animated background? In-Reply-To: <47FB0CCE.1070503@nicubunu.ro> References: <47FA7B6F.6080400@fedoraproject.org> <47FB0CCE.1070503@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47FB3B66.70603@fedoraproject.org> Nicu Buculei a ?crit : > Use as a reference Martins wawe.xml from Rawhide, it is animated and > also multi resolution. I believe it is here: > http://mso.fedorapeople.org/waves/ > The file is not included in the tarball. I will check on the 20080404 rawhide livecd snapshot. Luya From markg85 at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 09:41:41 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 11:41:41 +0200 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper - workitems In-Reply-To: References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47FA3EB9.9000509@fedoraproject.org> <47FA49F0.2010402@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804080241t2a7669dj4082f4e5ee9fbd59@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/8, Ian Weller : > On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > > > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > > > > > > > Normal Ratio: > > > - 2560x1600 > > > > > > > that one is widescreen > > > > > > > - 1600x1200 > > > - 1024x768 > > > - 800x600 > > > > > > Widescreen Ratio: > > > - 1680x1050 > > > - 1440x900 > > > - 1280x800 > > > > > > > I believe there is also 1920x1200 > > > > > > > (do these seem right?) > > > > > > > Currently we have in Rawhide also: > > - 1280x1024 (a *lot* of people use this) > > - 800x480 (Eee PC) > > > > Do we need *all* those sizes? We can't have only the largest (1600x1200 > for normal and 2560x1600 for wide) and let them be scaled down (as is the > case in F8)? Otherwise we waste a lot of disk space. > > > > > I'll render 1600x1200. Should be done near 03:00 UTC or so. > Theoretically we shouldn't have to render any other 4:3 wallpapers, > unless we want larger, which we shouldn't need. -- ian Seems big enough to me. Best to just provide the SVG image as well incase someone wants to render a even bigger image. 2008/4/7, M?ir?n Duffy : > Hi Mark, > > Mark wrote: > > > The sizes you posted seem right to me.. > > But about the sizes.. Nautilus can handly SVG backgrounds so why not > > put that one in the dist? then you can drop all the other images.. > > unless that's not gonna work with day/night wallpapers (fancy and nice > > but not really useful anyway). > > > > I don't think Nautilus can handle the blur filter in the backgrounds. Also > I still think librsvg doesn't support the SVG cropping functionality (for > widescreen) Hi Perhaps that's something the fedora people should put on the todo list (for Fedora 10)? When this is made you never have to include png/jpeg or even multiple wallpapers of the same image.. you just render the wallpaper for the screen size on firstboot and your done. That's a big advantage! and saves some space as well (with current wallpapers i guess it could save about 30MB?) From frankly3d at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 09:43:52 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:43:52 +0100 Subject: Miniumum time for animated background? In-Reply-To: <47FB3B66.70603@fedoraproject.org> References: <47FA7B6F.6080400@fedoraproject.org> <47FB0CCE.1070503@nicubunu.ro> <47FB3B66.70603@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1207647832.10962.2.camel@frank-01> On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 02:31 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Nicu Buculei a ?crit : > > Use as a reference Martins wawe.xml from Rawhide, it is animated and > > also multi resolution. I believe it is here: > > http://mso.fedorapeople.org/waves/ > > > The file is not included in the tarball. I will check on the 20080404 > rawhide livecd snapshot. > > Luya > If you find it, can you email me the wave.xml? for the earth\light idea. Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What would be the recommended for "xinerama" settings? (Im my case 2880x900,1440x2) Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Apr 8 09:52:23 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:52:23 +0300 Subject: Miniumum time for animated background? In-Reply-To: <1207647832.10962.2.camel@frank-01> References: <47FA7B6F.6080400@fedoraproject.org> <47FB0CCE.1070503@nicubunu.ro> <47FB3B66.70603@fedoraproject.org> <1207647832.10962.2.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47FB4057.3080709@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 02:31 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: >>> >> The file is not included in the tarball. I will check on the 20080404 >> rawhide livecd snapshot. > > If you find it, can you email me the wave.xml? > for the earth\light idea. Here is it, from my Rawhide up-to-date desktop. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: waves.xml Type: text/xml Size: 6647 bytes Desc: not available URL: From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.net Mon Apr 7 19:51:39 2008 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.net (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:51:39 -0700 Subject: Miniumum time for animated background? Message-ID: <47FA7B4B.20606@thefinalzone.net> Based on Mairin wave theme, I have create a set of wallpapers under the folder wave-test. Is there a minimum of time to set the animated background using infiniti.xml as reference? My version is called wave-test.xml. I have tried to use it but nothing happened on the screen. Luya Reference: http://luya.fedorapeople.org/images/waves/ From frankly3d at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 12:29:17 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:29:17 +0100 Subject: Can I take this on? Message-ID: <1207657757.16833.5.camel@frank-01> Is it ok to attempt this? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService#head-1d57965f144d16a3c1c4cdbfda053e0fc8e3987f seems to be no takers as yet, or is it gone & just not updated? WIP(s) will be submitted, no sketches as yet. (still the crap scanner, whinedows only) Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Apr 8 12:42:55 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:42:55 +0300 Subject: Can I take this on? In-Reply-To: <1207657757.16833.5.camel@frank-01> References: <1207657757.16833.5.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47FB684F.1000505@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > Is it ok to attempt this? > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService#head-1d57965f144d16a3c1c4cdbfda053e0fc8e3987f > > seems to be no takers as yet, or is it gone & just not updated? Feel free to take it. And there is no need to ask before taking an unclaimed task, just modify its status (note: those interested in the evolution of the page are subscribed to update notifications). > WIP(s) will be submitted, no sketches as yet. > (still the crap scanner, whinedows only) No problem, stay in touch with the requester, he is the one who will acknowledge the final result, not us. Once he is happy with the result and the graphic get used, you can move it in the "Resources Created" section of the page. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From mola.mp at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 12:59:28 2008 From: mola.mp at gmail.com (Mola Pahnadayan) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:29:28 +0430 Subject: The history of fedora Message-ID: <47FB6C30.7010004@gmail.com> Hi all Not finished work! http://molaora.com/index.php?photos/album/8/photo/39.html From johannbg at hi.is Tue Apr 8 13:08:38 2008 From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:08:38 +0000 Subject: The history of fedora In-Reply-To: <47FB6C30.7010004@gmail.com> References: <47FB6C30.7010004@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47FB6E56.9040802@hi.is> Mola Pahnadayan wrote: > Hi all > Not finished work! > http://molaora.com/index.php?photos/album/8/photo/39.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Nice work... 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The squarish anaconda splash is probably a good graphic to start with for the gnome splash. ~m From markg85 at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 15:28:41 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 17:28:41 +0200 Subject: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <47FB8355.4070403@fedoraproject.org> References: <47FB8355.4070403@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804080828s44924d19w659fec121853c701@mail.gmail.com> Yes i am interested (lock dialog only.. don't know about the splash). But last time (in the fedora 8 development cycle) the lock dialog was made and working but still not enabled (but is included) by default! while it looked cool. So i see no point in making it if it's not even gonna be used by default. I'm willing to make/adjust the exisiting one from fedora 8 to make it fit with the waves but only if a fedora official can promise me that it's gonna be in and ON by default (so no ugly plain looks in the lock dialog). 2008/4/8, M?ir?n Duffy : > Hey, > > Is anyone interested in putting together a gnome splash and/or a > screensaver lock dialog for Waves? The squarish anaconda splash is probably > a good graphic to start with for the gnome splash. > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Apr 8 15:59:30 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 11:59:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: F9 CD/DVD art In-Reply-To: <47F9C1FE.50504@nicubunu.ro> References: <47F9C1FE.50504@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: > A while ago I tried to come out with some concepts as an incentive for > people to work on that, but the follow up was minimal: > http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2008/03/first-attempt-at-f9-sulphur-media.html I think those look great. http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/cdart/sulphur/cdlabel_sulf3.svg I like this one the best, and I have the following thoughts/suggestions: 1) Actually say "Fedora 9" somewhere on the CD, not just Fedora. 2) Leave the copyright text for the jacket, and not the disk itself. Instead, put http://fedoraproject.org on the CD. 3) x86 with a lowercase x --Max From ianweller at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 19:05:06 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 14:05:06 -0500 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper - workitems In-Reply-To: <1207648072.11100.2.camel@frank-01> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47FA3EB9.9000509@fedoraproject.org> <47FA49F0.2010402@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804080241t2a7669dj4082f4e5ee9fbd59@mail.gmail.com> <1207648072.11100.2.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: On 4/8/08, Frank Murphy wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 11:41 +0200, Mark wrote: > > > > > > > > I'll render 1600x1200. Should be done near 03:00 UTC or so. > > > Theoretically we shouldn't have to render any other 4:3 wallpapers, > > > unless we want larger, which we shouldn't need. -- ian > > > > Seems big enough to me. > > Best to just provide the SVG image as well incase someone wants to > > render a even bigger image. > > > What would be the recommended for "xinerama" settings? > (Im my case 2880x900,1440x2) > > This is what I'm worried about. Right now I'm only doing the 4:3 screen ratio because of that. Are we going to expand the image or just cut it off (mostly on the bottom, of course, so that we don't cut off the waves)... and in the case of dual screens, do you think it's OK to just have it repeat on both screens? Also, if you haven't seen, ricky and I in #fedora-art were discussing the possibility of creating the SRPM for the wallpapers with just the SVGs and the spec file would direct rpmbuild to render the PNGs. It would be nice for those who would like to *easily* find the vector source and how exactly it was rendered in CVS. I spent last night creating the command line and GIMP script to create the different times of day and add the sparkles. I posted this link to #fedora-art. -- ian From tatadbb at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 19:07:24 2008 From: tatadbb at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:37:24 +1930 Subject: New Proposal theme F10: Moonrise Message-ID: <27a6293b0804081207w648d685dwc7097d6a6c6694b0@mail.gmail.com> Hi; i was working over some landscape and was thinking that we can use something like this [1]. How can I add this at wiki? only add it on the Theme10 proposals? Salutex [1] http://tatica.org/tux/landscape.png -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... 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However I'm all for this. +1 -- ian From listor3.rombobeorn at tdcpost.se Wed Apr 9 00:29:44 2008 From: listor3.rombobeorn at tdcpost.se (=?iso-8859-1?q?Bj=F6rn_Persson?=) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 02:29:44 +0200 Subject: [F10 theme proposal] Gears Round 1 Message-ID: <200804090229.45387@groucho2.xn--rombobjrn-67a.se> Nicu Buculei wrote: > With a bit of impulse from Martin, here is the formal proposal for a F10 > theme: Gears > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Gears You dismissed the "blue paper" version as "not that realistic". I disagree. It looks just like a blueprint, which is much more realistic than blue ink on old yellowed paper. Blueprints fit perfectly in the old technology concept. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blueprint Bj?rn Persson From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Apr 9 06:42:58 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:42:58 +0300 Subject: [F10 theme proposal] Gears Round 1 In-Reply-To: <200804090229.45387@groucho2.xn--rombobjrn-67a.se> References: <200804090229.45387@groucho2.xn--rombobjrn-67a.se> Message-ID: <47FC6572.6010506@nicubunu.ro> Bj?rn Persson wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: >> With a bit of impulse from Martin, here is the formal proposal for a F10 >> theme: Gears >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Gears > > You dismissed the "blue paper" version as "not that realistic". I disagree. It > looks just like a blueprint, which is much more realistic than blue ink on > old yellowed paper. Blueprints fit perfectly in the old technology concept. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blueprint I eased the wording, indeed, it fir the blueprint definition but I think it is a departure for the original "steampunk" target. And I don't want to dismiss it, I want more of a confirmation/infirmation about it being on the right track. For everybody - I tried to put some blue back in the Gears concept: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Gears#head-7ac71eb00a599f5ef6eb0f252c2bf35d01a228d5 -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Apr 9 06:49:26 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:49:26 +0300 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper - workitems In-Reply-To: References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47FA3EB9.9000509@fedoraproject.org> <47FA49F0.2010402@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804080241t2a7669dj4082f4e5ee9fbd59@mail.gmail.com> <1207648072.11100.2.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47FC66F6.7050806@nicubunu.ro> Ian Weller wrote: > > Also, if you haven't seen, ricky and I in #fedora-art were discussing > the possibility of creating the SRPM for the wallpapers with just the > SVGs and the spec file would direct rpmbuild to render the PNGs. It > would be nice for those who would like to *easily* find the vector > source and how exactly it was rendered in CVS. I spent last night > creating the command line and GIMP script to create the different > times of day and add the sparkles. I posted this link to #fedora-art. It is possible to convert with GIMP from SVG to PNG in a scripted way (command line)? Is it acceptable to include Inkscape or GIMP in the build system? (they will drag a lot of dependencies and Inkscape is not even "core"). ImageMagik is *not* acceptable as a solution (bad SVG support). The easiest way to produce PNGs from SVGs in a scripted way is using Inkscape: "inkscape --export-png=FILENAME --export-width=WIDTH" -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Apr 9 06:57:35 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:57:35 +0300 Subject: New Proposal theme F10: Moonrise In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0804081207w648d685dwc7097d6a6c6694b0@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0804081207w648d685dwc7097d6a6c6694b0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47FC68DF.2020701@nicubunu.ro> Mar?a Leandro wrote: > Hi; i was working over some landscape and was thinking that we can use > something like this [1]. > > How can I add this at wiki? only add it on the Theme10 proposals? Yes, create a page like http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/Moonrise then list your theme at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes and then send an email to this list with the subject "[F10 theme proposal] Fedora Moonrise Round 1" -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From frankly3d at gmail.com Wed Apr 9 07:34:23 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:34:23 +0100 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper - workitems In-Reply-To: References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47FA3EB9.9000509@fedoraproject.org> <47FA49F0.2010402@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804080241t2a7669dj4082f4e5ee9fbd59@mail.gmail.com> <1207648072.11100.2.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <1207726463.4286.3.camel@frank-01> On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 14:05 -0500, Ian Weller wrote: > On 4/8/08, Frank Murphy wrote: > This is what I'm worried about. Right now I'm only doing the 4:3 > screen ratio because of that. Are we going to expand the image or just > cut it off (mostly on the bottom, of course, so that we don't cut off > the waves)... If rule of thirds was put in place, a lot of that would be sorted. > and in the case of dual screens, do you think it's OK to > just have it repeat on both screens? As tests are put up, I will take screenshots, send a link to the list. For some dual feedback? Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(they > will drag a lot of dependencies and Inkscape is not even "core"). > ImageMagik is *not* acceptable as a solution (bad SVG support). > The process is: inkscape converts SVG to PNG GIMP edits levels, fixes bends, and blurs composite and convert (from ImageMagick) overlay, scale, crop, etc. It's basically a 3-tiered process. I'm also thinking of using optipng to make the output PNGs smaller. So that makes 4-tiers. -- ian From markg85 at gmail.com Thu Apr 10 21:07:37 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:07:37 +0200 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper - workitems In-Reply-To: References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47FA3EB9.9000509@fedoraproject.org> <47FA49F0.2010402@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804080241t2a7669dj4082f4e5ee9fbd59@mail.gmail.com> <1207648072.11100.2.camel@frank-01> <47FC66F6.7050806@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804101407y72f16682sf7c9cc19af517696@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/10, Ian Weller : > On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > > > It is possible to convert with GIMP from SVG to PNG in a scripted way > (command line)? > > Is it acceptable to include Inkscape or GIMP in the build system? (they > will drag a lot of dependencies and Inkscape is not even "core"). ImageMagik > is *not* acceptable as a solution (bad SVG support). > > > > > The process is: > inkscape converts SVG to PNG > GIMP edits levels, fixes bends, and blurs > composite and convert (from ImageMagick) overlay, scale, crop, etc. > It's basically a 3-tiered process. > > I'm also thinking of using optipng to make the output PNGs smaller. So > that makes 4-tiers. > > -- ian Are those nice wallpapers gonna be in fedora 9 now? because we are past the final freeze now.. Or is this gonna be saved for F10? From ianweller at gmail.com Thu Apr 10 22:05:28 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:05:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: revised f9 wallpaper - workitems In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804101407y72f16682sf7c9cc19af517696@mail.gmail.com> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47FA3EB9.9000509@fedoraproject.org> <47FA49F0.2010402@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804080241t2a7669dj4082f4e5ee9fbd59@mail.gmail.com> <1207648072.11100.2.camel@frank-01> <47FC66F6.7050806@nicubunu.ro> <6e24a8e80804101407y72f16682sf7c9cc19af517696@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 10 Apr 2008, Mark wrote: > Are those nice wallpapers gonna be in fedora 9 now? because we are > past the final freeze now.. Or is this gonna be saved for F10? > I'm being told by mizmo that it'll be fine. I'm making a few quick edits at her request, so I'm sure they're fine. The current versions are at http://slarti.ianweller.org/waves-0.1.1/. You can also see the Makefile and GIMP script I used there. mizmo has asked me to add a bit of a purple hue to the morning one, since morn and noon are very similar. If someone is willing, could they check the waves.xml file there? -- ian From ianweller at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 05:16:17 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:16:17 -0500 (CDT) Subject: new waves wallpapers Message-ID: OK, here's the latest rendered versions of the wallpapers. http://slarti.ianweller.org/waves-0.1.2/ The PNG set is completely buildable by grabbing the Makefile, the .scm script, and the src/ directory. Create a build/ directory, and then run make. (Yes, it will take a while.) Unfortunately, even after optipng-ing all of them, the total comes out to be 47 MB :/ -- that is, all 4 times of day, at all 4 resolutions. The 'normalish' resolution is 1280x960. It's kinda normal (1.33:1), but not really (1.25:1). There's also widescreen and eeepc. It was decided that we would not necessarily support dual head. For dual head, you can repeat the wallpaper ;) Comments? Questions? Concerns? Praise? Threats? Please let us know :) -- ian From jbizama at linuxero.cl Fri Apr 11 03:56:29 2008 From: jbizama at linuxero.cl (Jonathan Bizama) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:56:29 -0400 Subject: artTeam Message-ID: <31e0a4d50804102056i4d6abd9cpba86c5b9b264c1d0@mail.gmail.com> Hola, bueno les escribo porque me gustaria participar en este grupo, bueno yo soy dise?ador, soy de chile y utilizo fedora hace 2 a?os -- atte, Jonathan Bizama Sep?lveda Dise?ador y encargardo soporte informatico en M&R Publicidad. .......................................................*** Vicepresidente Lotinux http://lotinux.wordpress.com ........................................................*** http://jbizama.linuxero.cl Cel. 77052811 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's sufficiently different from noon now and neither is too bright. ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Apr 11 05:55:48 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:55:48 +0300 Subject: artTeam In-Reply-To: <31e0a4d50804102056i4d6abd9cpba86c5b9b264c1d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <31e0a4d50804102056i4d6abd9cpba86c5b9b264c1d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47FEFD64.1060908@nicubunu.ro> Jonathan Bizama wrote: > Hola, Hi, > bueno les escribo porque me gustaria participar en este grupo, bueno yo > soy dise?ador, soy de chile y utilizo fedora hace 2 a?os We use English as the primary language for communication on this group, I personally, and the majority of contributors, can't speak Spanish. A first step is to subscribe to our mailing list: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list We have a few Spanish speaking people, and I believe someone else will reply in your native language (if they do so, they should add your address in CC:, as you are not subscribed to the list). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Fri Apr 11 05:58:58 2008 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gian Paolo Mureddu) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:58:58 -0500 Subject: artTeam In-Reply-To: <31e0a4d50804102056i4d6abd9cpba86c5b9b264c1d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <31e0a4d50804102056i4d6abd9cpba86c5b9b264c1d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47FEFE22.7010403@prodigy.net.mx> Jonathan Bizama escribi?: > Hola, > > bueno les escribo porque me gustaria participar en este grupo, bueno > yo soy dise?ador, soy de chile y utilizo fedora hace 2 a?os > My reply will be in two languages: Spanish and English... Spanish: Hola, Jonathan. Lamentablemente el idioma "oficial" de la lista es Ingl?s. Si puedes comunicarte con el resto de la lista en este idioma ser?a excelente, de lo contrario, yo te puedo ayudar para que puedas participar en ella. English: Hello, Jonathan. Sadly the "official" language of the list is English. If you can communicate with the rest of the list in this language, it would be excellent, otherwise, I may help you so that you can participate in it. From frankly3d at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 07:01:44 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:01:44 +0100 Subject: new waves wallpapers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1207897304.3209.4.camel@frank-01> On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 00:16 -0500, Ian Weller wrote: > The PNG set is completely buildable by grabbing the Makefile, the .scm > script, and the src/ directory. Create a build/ directory, and then run > make. (Yes, it will take a while.) > Newbie Q, this will be automated in F9? 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We'd like to target the Echo icons for the F10 release, but there is still a lot of work to be done, and currently there are only two people (me and Luya) actively working on them which is too little. With recent growth of the art team I though there might be people interested with helping, or might know about such people. How you can help? 1. You can help with the managing stuff * Work on various wiki pages * Help with deciding schedules, tasks, policies, etc. 2. You can provide feedback * Do you know of an icon that is violating guidelines [4]? * Do you know of an icon that looks out of the way compared to others? * Do you think there is an information gap somewhere? If you answer yes to any of these questions feel free to share those concerns with us either here, on the art-list, or in echo's ticket system [5]. 3. You can help with icon creation. * Look at the ToDo lists [6] to see what needs to be done * Get familiar with the guidelines [4] * Submit your work on the art list for acceptance Thanks for your comments, Martin References: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoIconTheme/EchoToDo/Menus [2] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/ToDo/GnomeMenus [3] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/ticket/16 [4] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines [5] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/newticket [6] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/ToDo From ianweller at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 20:03:05 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:03:05 -0500 (CDT) Subject: new waves wallpapers In-Reply-To: <1207901575.3044.3.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1207901575.3044.3.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, Martin Sourada wrote: > You could create the build/ directory automatically as well, I think. > I thought of this as I was typing the e-mail, but it was 1 in the morning, and i had school the next day ;) -- ian From wtogami at redhat.com Fri Apr 11 21:01:08 2008 From: wtogami at redhat.com (Warren Togami) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:01:08 -0400 Subject: new waves wallpapers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47FFD194.8060203@redhat.com> Ian Weller wrote: > OK, here's the latest rendered versions of the wallpapers. > > http://slarti.ianweller.org/waves-0.1.2/ > > The PNG set is completely buildable by grabbing the Makefile, the .scm > script, and the src/ directory. Create a build/ directory, and then run > make. (Yes, it will take a while.) > > Unfortunately, even after optipng-ing all of them, the total comes out > to be 47 MB :/ -- that is, all 4 times of day, at all 4 resolutions. > > The 'normalish' resolution is 1280x960. It's kinda normal (1.33:1), but > not really (1.25:1). There's also widescreen and eeepc. > > It was decided that we would not necessarily support dual head. For > dual head, you can repeat the wallpaper ;) > > Comments? Questions? Concerns? Praise? Threats? Please let us know :) Hi. I know folks here are working very hard under heavy time constraints and I am very appreciative. I hope this explanation of my feelings is constructive and not off base. My first impression upon upgrading was surprise. I felt like something was wrong with the new background, only it took me a while to realize exactly why. The "soft white balls" (how else do I describe them?) look very good in the rays of light. However it feels like the few sparkly parts, despite being in the minority, attract too much attention from the overall look. If I tell my brain to ignore the sparkly auras, then I realize that I like the overall look. Have you tested how it looks without the sparkly effect? I have a hunch that it might look even better. (Maybe they don't need to be removed entirely. Perhaps the sparkly auras might attract less attention if they were more blended or with less definition? I hope this makes sense.) Warren Togami wtogami at redhat.com From ivazqueznet at gmail.com Sat Apr 12 01:53:37 2008 From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:53:37 -0400 Subject: new waves wallpapers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1207965217.5778.28.camel@ignacio.lan> I've picked through the Makefile and some of the sources, and here's the results of my efforts: http://ivazquez.fedorapeople.org/files/waves-0.1.2.90.tar.bz2 Fixes: - Parallelized (make -jX works) - Generates smaller images based on a colormap, either generated or supplied - clean target added Known issues: - base.svg takes forever to process, so parallelization beyond 2 jobs is mostly pointless - Generated colormaps are *ugly* since they're evenly spread out - A dozen individual GIMP scripts instead of a single one with variables - No install target What it needs, what it really, really needs, is for someone to create decent colormaps. A colormap is just a PNG file with pixels of the desired colors, placed in src/ and named colormap-$TIME.png, where $TIME is one of morn, noon, evening, or night. Please, please feel free to replace the included colormap-night.png with something nice. A little pruning of base.svg would be handy too. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From luya at fedoraproject.org Sat Apr 12 07:39:49 2008 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:39:49 -0400 Subject: Welcome to Fedora Art team. In-Reply-To: <4952fd670804112216x139c0de8v68e1d00f36f55e52@mail.gmail.com> References: <4952fd670804112216x139c0de8v68e1d00f36f55e52@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1207985989.48006745c76c3@ssl.mecca.ca> First, please no caps on the subject, it is irritating. For the task, you can visit http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService to pick up one of them. You should also start practice with open sources software such as Gimp to expand your Photoshop knowledge. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Sat Apr 12 20:58:15 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:58:15 +0200 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper - workitems In-Reply-To: <47FA3EB9.9000509@fedoraproject.org> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47FA3EB9.9000509@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <48012267.5010908@gmail.com> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > (do these seem right?) Will there be a resolution of 800x480 for Asus eee? Cheers, Valent. From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Sat Apr 12 21:12:02 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:12:02 +0200 Subject: Blue fire In-Reply-To: <47FB7E7E.6030503@gmail.com> References: <47FB7E7E.6030503@gmail.com> Message-ID: <480125A2.8050706@gmail.com> Mola Pahnadayan wrote: > Hi, > *Blue fire* > I add New theme for Fedora 10 > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes/bluefire#preview > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list This could be a interesting theme when polished... nice... Valent. From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Sat Apr 12 21:16:15 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:16:15 +0200 Subject: revised f9 wallpaper - workitems In-Reply-To: <48012267.5010908@gmail.com> References: <47F8F5FB.7040907@fedoraproject.org> <47FA3EB9.9000509@fedoraproject.org> <48012267.5010908@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4801269F.9070808@gmail.com> Valent Turkovic wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> (do these seem right?) > > Will there be a resolution of 800x480 for Asus eee? > > Cheers, > Valent. Never mind I saw that it will. Valent. From giacomo_succi at email.it Sun Apr 13 09:21:45 2008 From: giacomo_succi at email.it (Giacomo Succi) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:21:45 +0200 Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD Message-ID: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> I know that I disappear since the last release, but, as a lot of us know, the life is great troubles generator. Anyway. A new Fedora is coming and new Fedora's CD/DVD Artwork are needed. So I've create some new Artworks, as the previous one. At the moment they are in "RFC" phase, so go to http://succi.altervista.org/fedora/ and let's have a look. Please, feel free to comment/criticize my work!! Happy Fedoring!!! -- Giacomo Succi - -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Contacts: eMail: giacomo_succi email it; AIM: Anandir82 Y!: anandir82; ICQ: 135781176 J: Anandir jabber org; MSN: anandir email it Skype: anandir82 GPG: 0x52CDCA27 GPG Server: pool.sks-keyservers.net - -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You might want to look at the DVD labels Nicu did some time ago: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2008/03/first-attempt-at-f9-sulphur-media.html Martin From stickster at gmail.com Sun Apr 13 17:29:10 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:29:10 -0400 Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: <1208079234.3064.22.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> <1208079234.3064.22.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1208107750.12617.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2008-04-13 at 11:33 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Sun, 2008-04-13 at 11:21 +0200, Giacomo Succi wrote: > > I know that I disappear since the last release, but, as a lot > > of us know, the life is great troubles generator. > > Anyway. > > A new Fedora is coming and new Fedora's CD/DVD Artwork are needed. > > So I've create some new Artworks, as the previous one. > > At the moment they are in "RFC" phase, so go to > > http://succi.altervista.org/fedora/ and let's have a look. > > Please, feel free to comment/criticize my work!! > > > > Happy Fedoring!!! > > > > They look great! You might want to look at the DVD labels Nicu did some > time ago: > > http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2008/03/first-attempt-at-f9-sulphur-media.html To reiterate a previous comment, we absolutely need to print the URL on the CD/DVD covers -- the back side would be a good place: http://fedoraproject.org/ -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Martin Sourada wrote: > On Sun, 2008-04-13 at 11:21 +0200, Giacomo Succi wrote: > >> I know that I disappear since the last release, but, as a lot >> of us know, the life is great troubles generator. >> Anyway. >> A new Fedora is coming and new Fedora's CD/DVD Artwork are needed. >> So I've create some new Artworks, as the previous one. >> At the moment they are in "RFC" phase, so go to >> http://succi.altervista.org/fedora/ and let's have a look. >> Please, feel free to comment/criticize my work!! >> >> Happy Fedoring!!! >> >> > > They look great! You might want to look at the DVD labels Nicu did some > time ago: > > http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2008/03/first-attempt-at-f9-sulphur-media.html > > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gort.klaatu at gmail.com Sun Apr 13 18:25:43 2008 From: gort.klaatu at gmail.com (Klaatu and Gort) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:25:43 -0700 Subject: Bryant Font on Art Wiki Banner In-Reply-To: <1208108607.6742.6.camel@frank-01> References: <1208108607.6742.6.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: If there are licensing issues with Bryant, there is a very similar font called "Howie's Funhouse", available for free at http://www.dafont.com/howies-funhouse.font - klaatu 2008/4/13 Frank Murphy : > The Bryant Font, used in the art wiki banner. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork > > Is that available to be used on the "Amateur Radio" sig banner, > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/AmateurRadio > or would I need to go off get a licence? > > > Frank > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- --- use linux. support free software. subscribe to http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml From duffy at fedoraproject.org Sun Apr 13 20:06:40 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:06:40 -0400 Subject: Bryant Font on Art Wiki Banner In-Reply-To: <1208108607.6742.6.camel@frank-01> References: <1208108607.6742.6.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <480267D0.2010802@fedoraproject.org> Frank Murphy wrote: > The Bryant Font, used in the art wiki banner. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork > > Is that available to be used on the "Amateur Radio" sig banner, > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/AmateurRadio > or would I need to go off get a licence? That's not Bryant. It looks like a gothic font, maybe Gothic Sans. Although I would recommend MgOpen Modata, as it complements the Fedora logo quite well. Both fonts should be free and available in Fedora. ~m From duffy at fedoraproject.org Sun Apr 13 20:07:52 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:07:52 -0400 Subject: Bryant Font on Art Wiki Banner In-Reply-To: References: <1208108607.6742.6.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <48026818.4000508@fedoraproject.org> Klaatu and Gort wrote: > If there are licensing issues with Bryant, there is a very similar > font called "Howie's Funhouse", available for free at > http://www.dafont.com/howies-funhouse.font Is that free as in beer or free as in free speech? I don't see a license on that page. ~m From martin.sourada at gmail.com Sun Apr 13 20:24:58 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:24:58 +0200 Subject: Nodoka Notification Theme [Re: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10] In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804040900p6fd1fca1m24f7806ee6b50d37@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> <1207313391.4468.37.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040633h4937e095nb7682fecc8894828@mail.gmail.com> <1207319269.4468.59.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040900p6fd1fca1m24f7806ee6b50d37@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1208118298.3691.13.camel@pc-notebook> > And i have a nice update on the mockup. > > Changelog > - bottom bar fully adjusted to fit the nodoka theme > - notification balloon content is greadly adjusted with a real world > scenario (asymetric thing not solved yet) > - - Added close image in the balloon > - - added orange bar (nice style and can be any colour) > - - added a image of the updates (64x64 fits nicely there) > - - played with font sized and bold > - added the desktop image to the bottom bar (men that image just > doesn't fit that style) > - Changed the bottom bar buttons > - - Made them a bit lighter > - - Made the effects a little more "glowy/glossy" > > And you can see the changes in the image here: > http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3089/fedora10mockupv02nf6.png > > To me it looks really nice now! Hope you think the same. > Sorry for the really late answer, but I've not managed to get some spare time to take a closer look at it up until now. I'll focus only on the notification part (for now). First about your sketch. What I like: * Rounded corners, might be even more rounded * Soft gradients What I don't like * Stripe padded * Usage of not very fitting, IMHO, type of gradient in the stripe * "Inner outline" * Close button hardly visible, cursive-like * Padding too small for text Now why I waited with the answer so long. I've set up a wiki page for tracking the progress (both art and coding) of the notification theme and put my design on that as well. It's based of yours, yet it's different a lot. * I used warmer colours for the basic background, similar to that used in tooltips * I rounded the corners more * I use only one type of gradient, two different settings (one for fill, another for outline) * I used close icon (and all other icons) from the icon theme I have currently set (echo, with fall-back to gnome). The wiki page (with SVGs and PNGs) is there: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/NodokaTheme/NotifyDRAFT Comparison of the current notify and the sketch, as it looks on whole F9 desktop is there: http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/notify/preview/notify-orig.png http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/notify/preview/notify.png The *-orig-* images, save for the screen shot of whole desktop, are real screen shots, I used notify-send application to display them, all the rest is either collage or work from scratch. Comments welcome, Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From markg85 at gmail.com Mon Apr 14 00:06:07 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:06:07 +0200 Subject: Nodoka Notification Theme [Re: Nodoka suggestions for Fedora 10] In-Reply-To: <1208118298.3691.13.camel@pc-notebook> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> <1207313391.4468.37.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040633h4937e095nb7682fecc8894828@mail.gmail.com> <1207319269.4468.59.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040900p6fd1fca1m24f7806ee6b50d37@mail.gmail.com> <1208118298.3691.13.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804131706p311e8c59of1117805c0f8e0a6@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/13, Martin Sourada : > > And i have a nice update on the mockup. > > > > Changelog > > - bottom bar fully adjusted to fit the nodoka theme > > - notification balloon content is greadly adjusted with a real world > > scenario (asymetric thing not solved yet) > > - - Added close image in the balloon > > - - added orange bar (nice style and can be any colour) > > - - added a image of the updates (64x64 fits nicely there) > > - - played with font sized and bold > > - added the desktop image to the bottom bar (men that image just > > doesn't fit that style) > > - Changed the bottom bar buttons > > - - Made them a bit lighter > > - - Made the effects a little more "glowy/glossy" > > > > And you can see the changes in the image here: > > http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3089/fedora10mockupv02nf6.png > > > > To me it looks really nice now! Hope you think the same. > > > Sorry for the really late answer, but I've not managed to get some spare > time to take a closer look at it up until now. I'll focus only on the > notification part (for now). First about your sketch. > > What I like: > * Rounded corners, might be even more rounded > * Soft gradients > > What I don't like > * Stripe padded > * Usage of not very fitting, IMHO, type of gradient in the stripe > * "Inner outline" > * Close button hardly visible, cursive-like > * Padding too small for text > > Now why I waited with the answer so long. I've set up a wiki page for > tracking the progress (both art and coding) of the notification theme > and put my design on that as well. It's based of yours, yet it's > different a lot. > > * I used warmer colours for the basic background, similar to that used > in tooltips > * I rounded the corners more > * I use only one type of gradient, two different settings (one for fill, > another for outline) > * I used close icon (and all other icons) from the icon theme I have > currently set (echo, with fall-back to gnome). > > The wiki page (with SVGs and PNGs) is there: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/NodokaTheme/NotifyDRAFT > > Comparison of the current notify and the sketch, as it looks on whole F9 > desktop is there: > http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/notify/preview/notify-orig.png > http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/notify/preview/notify.png > > The *-orig-* images, save for the screen shot of whole desktop, are real > screen shots, I used notify-send application to display them, all the > rest is either collage or work from scratch. > > Comments welcome, > > Martin i like it for nodoka but a blue like notify theme could look even better (don't know). The mockup i made wasn't really fitting in with nodoka now that i saw this ^_^ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Apr 14 09:13:17 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:13:17 +0300 Subject: Art-Wiki Favour? In-Reply-To: <1207902877.4934.3.camel@frank-01> References: <1207902877.4934.3.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <4803202D.3000706@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > As I'm not on the Wiki yet, can someone add the Earth-Light theme for > me? Why hurry? We are in no rush like the Round 1 deadline is coming or so (in fact, it has not even started officially), take your time CLA, edit rights and such. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Apr 14 09:17:12 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:17:12 +0300 Subject: Some Q on B\G In-Reply-To: <1207906041.5901.2.camel@frank-01> References: <1207906041.5901.2.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <48032118.2020603@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > 1: If no background is used, what controls the solid colour > (process\file-name) > > 2: What is regarded as "the Fedora Blue" rgb value. See here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#head-7393075343a81afb1dcfd83f37dcf47cc666be33 > 3: Had a deadline been set for Round 1 finish It was not set yet, but based from past experience, it may be 1.5-2 months *after* the new release cycle begins (after the F9 release) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From frankly3d at gmail.com Mon Apr 14 09:18:23 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:18:23 +0100 Subject: Art-Wiki Favour? In-Reply-To: <4803202D.3000706@nicubunu.ro> References: <1207902877.4934.3.camel@frank-01> <4803202D.3000706@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1208164703.21514.1.camel@frank-01> On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 12:13 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: > > As I'm not on the Wiki yet, can someone add the Earth-Light theme for > > me? > > Why hurry? We are in no rush like the Round 1 deadline is coming or so > (in fact, it has not even started officially), take your time CLA, edit > rights and such. > Whew, gives me a chance to work on the radio stuff for Bob Jensen. + some possible upstream stuff. Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Apr 14 09:25:08 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:25:08 +0300 Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> Message-ID: <480322F4.3020204@nicubunu.ro> Giacomo Succi wrote: > I know that I disappear since the last release, but, as a lot > of us know, the life is great troubles generator. > Anyway. > A new Fedora is coming and new Fedora's CD/DVD Artwork are needed. > So I've create some new Artworks, as the previous one. > At the moment they are in "RFC" phase, so go to > http://succi.altervista.org/fedora/ and let's have a look. > Please, feel free to comment/criticize my work!! When ready, consider uploading your graphics to the wiki: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9 (you can post there even as "work in progress") -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From markg85 at gmail.com Mon Apr 14 12:16:27 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:16:27 +0200 Subject: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: References: <47FB8355.4070403@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804080828s44924d19w659fec121853c701@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804140516o4c268d0du7241c4d87a88e544@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/8, Ian Weller : > On 4/8/08, Mark wrote: > > So i see no point in making it if it's not even gonna be used by default. > > I'm willing to make/adjust the exisiting one from fedora 8 to make it > > fit with the waves but only if a fedora official can promise me that > > it's gonna be in and ON by default (so no ugly plain looks in the lock > > dialog). > > > > There may be a slightly large debate about this, because I think the > artsy lock dialog is disabled by default upstream. However I'm all for > this. > > +1 -- ian any news here on those splashes? Current case is still that the F8 gnome splash is used in F9 and the lock dialog is still the plain ugly version. (tested on fully updated F9) From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Apr 14 12:52:43 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:52:43 +0300 Subject: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804140516o4c268d0du7241c4d87a88e544@mail.gmail.com> References: <47FB8355.4070403@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804080828s44924d19w659fec121853c701@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804140516o4c268d0du7241c4d87a88e544@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4803539B.40600@nicubunu.ro> Mark wrote: > > any news here on those splashes? > Current case is still that the F8 gnome splash is used in F9 and the > lock dialog is still the plain ugly version. (tested on fully updated > F9) AFAIK, there is no news on that, the current status is like that: - a few people in Art Team expressed their lack in interest in this dialog if it is not used by default (or probably at least having a non-obscure way to be enabled) - people in the Desktop team are not interested in using a themed dialog by default (some of the concerns involve usability) With that being said, you can make an update version and post it to the list, it would take something like a couple of minutes: grab the latest wallpaper from Rawhide, resize it to fit the dialog, open the .glade file (in Glade) and replace the background image. Save and post it here. note: in the time I replied I could have made the dialog myself, but I preferred not to, probably for the same reason as the other - as a statement about the futility of having a dialog if we are not going to use it. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From abdiwakil at hotmail.com Mon Apr 14 13:23:49 2008 From: abdiwakil at hotmail.com (abdi wakil) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:23:49 +0300 Subject: Need help in installing FC7or8 In-Reply-To: <20080414125304.9BDB5618893@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20080414125304.9BDB5618893@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: Hellow i'm having major prob installing fedora core 7 and 8 in my desktop 10Gb HDD, 128 Mb RAM, any help? i want to amke that desktop a small webserver, but all my installation ususally ends with some kind of a freeze or stuck or pouse, any help plz? > From: fedora-art-list-request at redhat.com > Subject: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 25, Issue 50 > To: fedora-art-list at redhat.com > Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:53:04 -0400 > > Send Fedora-art-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-art-list-request at redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-art-list-owner at redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-art-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Bryant Font on Art Wiki Banner (Frank Murphy) > 2. Re: Nodoka Notification Theme [Re: Nodoka suggestions for > Fedora 10] (Mark) > 3. Re: Art-Wiki Favour? (Nicu Buculei) > 4. Re: Some Q on B\G (Nicu Buculei) > 5. Re: Art-Wiki Favour? (Frank Murphy) > 6. Re: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD (Nicu Buculei) > 7. Re: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog (Mark) > 8. Re: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog (Nicu Buculei) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:38:03 +0100 > From: Frank Murphy > Subject: Re: Bryant Font on Art Wiki Banner > To: Discussions about the artwork "included with Fedora, including > icons, themes, and wallpapers." > Message-ID: <1208122683.8175.4.camel at frank-01> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > On Sun, 2008-04-13 at 16:06 -0400, M??ir??n Duffy wrote: > > Frank Murphy wrote: > > > The Bryant Font, used in the art wiki banner. > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork > > > > > > Is that available to be used on the "Amateur Radio" sig banner, > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/AmateurRadio > > > or would I need to go off get a licence? > > > > That's not Bryant. It looks like a gothic font, maybe Gothic Sans. > > Although I would recommend MgOpen Modata, as it complements the Fedora > > logo quite well. Both fonts should be free and available in Fedora. > > > > Will check them out the next day or two in prelim designs. > Will post for crit\feedback. > > Frank > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 189 bytes > Desc: This is a digitally signed message part > Url : https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/attachments/20080413/76d9af7e/attachment.bin > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:06:07 +0200 > From: Mark > Subject: Re: Nodoka Notification Theme [Re: Nodoka suggestions for > Fedora 10] > To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including > icons, themes, and wallpapers." > Message-ID: > <6e24a8e80804131706p311e8c59of1117805c0f8e0a6 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > 2008/4/13, Martin Sourada : > > > And i have a nice update on the mockup. > > > > > > Changelog > > > - bottom bar fully adjusted to fit the nodoka theme > > > - notification balloon content is greadly adjusted with a real world > > > scenario (asymetric thing not solved yet) > > > - - Added close image in the balloon > > > - - added orange bar (nice style and can be any colour) > > > - - added a image of the updates (64x64 fits nicely there) > > > - - played with font sized and bold > > > - added the desktop image to the bottom bar (men that image just > > > doesn't fit that style) > > > - Changed the bottom bar buttons > > > - - Made them a bit lighter > > > - - Made the effects a little more "glowy/glossy" > > > > > > And you can see the changes in the image here: > > > http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3089/fedora10mockupv02nf6.png > > > > > > To me it looks really nice now! Hope you think the same. > > > > > Sorry for the really late answer, but I've not managed to get some spare > > time to take a closer look at it up until now. I'll focus only on the > > notification part (for now). First about your sketch. > > > > What I like: > > * Rounded corners, might be even more rounded > > * Soft gradients > > > > What I don't like > > * Stripe padded > > * Usage of not very fitting, IMHO, type of gradient in the stripe > > * "Inner outline" > > * Close button hardly visible, cursive-like > > * Padding too small for text > > > > Now why I waited with the answer so long. I've set up a wiki page for > > tracking the progress (both art and coding) of the notification theme > > and put my design on that as well. It's based of yours, yet it's > > different a lot. > > > > * I used warmer colours for the basic background, similar to that used > > in tooltips > > * I rounded the corners more > > * I use only one type of gradient, two different settings (one for fill, > > another for outline) > > * I used close icon (and all other icons) from the icon theme I have > > currently set (echo, with fall-back to gnome). > > > > The wiki page (with SVGs and PNGs) is there: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/NodokaTheme/NotifyDRAFT > > > > Comparison of the current notify and the sketch, as it looks on whole F9 > > desktop is there: > > http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/notify/preview/notify-orig.png > > http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/notify/preview/notify.png > > > > The *-orig-* images, save for the screen shot of whole desktop, are real > > screen shots, I used notify-send application to display them, all the > > rest is either collage or work from scratch. > > > > Comments welcome, > > > > Martin > > i like it for nodoka but a blue like notify theme could look even > better (don't know). > > The mockup i made wasn't really fitting in with nodoka now that i saw this ^_^ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:13:17 +0300 > From: Nicu Buculei > Subject: Re: Art-Wiki Favour? > To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including > icons, themes, and wallpapers." > Message-ID: <4803202D.3000706 at nicubunu.ro> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Frank Murphy wrote: > > As I'm not on the Wiki yet, can someone add the Earth-Light theme for > > me? > > Why hurry? We are in no rush like the Round 1 deadline is coming or so > (in fact, it has not even started officially), take your time CLA, edit > rights and such. > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:17:12 +0300 > From: Nicu Buculei > Subject: Re: Some Q on B\G > To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including > icons, themes, and wallpapers." > Message-ID: <48032118.2020603 at nicubunu.ro> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Frank Murphy wrote: > > 1: If no background is used, what controls the solid colour > > (process\file-name) > > > > 2: What is regarded as "the Fedora Blue" rgb value. > > See here: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#head-7393075343a81afb1dcfd83f37dcf47cc666be33 > > > 3: Had a deadline been set for Round 1 finish > > It was not set yet, but based from past experience, it may be 1.5-2 > months *after* the new release cycle begins (after the F9 release) > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:18:23 +0100 > From: Frank Murphy > Subject: Re: Art-Wiki Favour? > To: Discussions about the artwork "included with Fedora, including > icons, themes, and wallpapers." > Message-ID: <1208164703.21514.1.camel at frank-01> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 12:13 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > Frank Murphy wrote: > > > As I'm not on the Wiki yet, can someone add the Earth-Light theme for > > > me? > > > > Why hurry? We are in no rush like the Round 1 deadline is coming or so > > (in fact, it has not even started officially), take your time CLA, edit > > rights and such. > > > > Whew, gives me a chance to work on the radio stuff for Bob Jensen. > + some possible upstream stuff. > > Frank > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 189 bytes > Desc: This is a digitally signed message part > Url : https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/attachments/20080414/b87970cb/attachment.bin > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:25:08 +0300 > From: Nicu Buculei > Subject: Re: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD > To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including > icons, themes, and wallpapers." > Message-ID: <480322F4.3020204 at nicubunu.ro> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Giacomo Succi wrote: > > I know that I disappear since the last release, but, as a lot > > of us know, the life is great troubles generator. > > Anyway. > > A new Fedora is coming and new Fedora's CD/DVD Artwork are needed. > > So I've create some new Artworks, as the previous one. > > At the moment they are in "RFC" phase, so go to > > http://succi.altervista.org/fedora/ and let's have a look. > > Please, feel free to comment/criticize my work!! > > When ready, consider uploading your graphics to the wiki: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9 (you can post there > even as "work in progress") > > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:16:27 +0200 > From: Mark > Subject: Re: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog > To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including > icons, themes, and wallpapers." > Message-ID: > <6e24a8e80804140516o4c268d0du7241c4d87a88e544 at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > 2008/4/8, Ian Weller : > > On 4/8/08, Mark wrote: > > > So i see no point in making it if it's not even gonna be used by default. > > > I'm willing to make/adjust the exisiting one from fedora 8 to make it > > > fit with the waves but only if a fedora official can promise me that > > > it's gonna be in and ON by default (so no ugly plain looks in the lock > > > dialog). > > > > > > > There may be a slightly large debate about this, because I think the > > artsy lock dialog is disabled by default upstream. However I'm all for > > this. > > > > +1 -- ian > > any news here on those splashes? > Current case is still that the F8 gnome splash is used in F9 and the > lock dialog is still the plain ugly version. (tested on fully updated > F9) > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:52:43 +0300 > From: Nicu Buculei > Subject: Re: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog > To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including > icons, themes, and wallpapers." > Message-ID: <4803539B.40600 at nicubunu.ro> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Mark wrote: > > > > any news here on those splashes? > > Current case is still that the F8 gnome splash is used in F9 and the > > lock dialog is still the plain ugly version. (tested on fully updated > > F9) > > AFAIK, there is no news on that, the current status is like that: > - a few people in Art Team expressed their lack in interest in this > dialog if it is not used by default (or probably at least having a > non-obscure way to be enabled) > - people in the Desktop team are not interested in using a themed dialog > by default (some of the concerns involve usability) > > With that being said, you can make an update version and post it to the > list, it would take something like a couple of minutes: grab the latest > wallpaper from Rawhide, resize it to fit the dialog, open the .glade > file (in Glade) and replace the background image. Save and post it here. > > note: in the time I replied I could have made the dialog myself, but I > preferred not to, probably for the same reason as the other - as a > statement about the futility of having a dialog if we are not going to > use it. > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > End of Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 25, Issue 50 > *********************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger? http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ivazqueznet at gmail.com Mon Apr 14 13:35:03 2008 From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:35:03 -0400 Subject: Need help in installing FC7or8 In-Reply-To: References: <20080414125304.9BDB5618893@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1208180103.586.8.camel@ignacio.lan> On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 16:23 +0300, abdi wakil wrote: > Hellow i'm having major prob installing fedora core 7 and 8 in my > desktop 10Gb HDD, 128 Mb RAM, any help? i want to amke that desktop a > small webserver, but all my installation ususally ends with some kind > of a freeze or stuck or pouse, any help plz? This mailing list is for discussing the artwork included with Fedora. For installation and other end-user issues, see one of the user-oriented resources found on this page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The 2nd attempt is at the same site: http://succi.altervista.org/fedora/ Happy Fedoring!! -- Giacomo Succi - -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Contacts: eMail: giacomo_succi email it; AIM: Anandir82 Y!: anandir82; ICQ: 135781176 J: Anandir jabber org; MSN: anandir email it Skype: anandir82 GPG: 0x52CDCA27 GPG Server: pool.sks-keyservers.net - -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From stickster at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 01:41:04 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:41:04 -0400 Subject: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804140516o4c268d0du7241c4d87a88e544@mail.gmail.com> References: <47FB8355.4070403@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804080828s44924d19w659fec121853c701@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804140516o4c268d0du7241c4d87a88e544@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080415014104.GE13763@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 02:16:27PM +0200, Mark wrote: > 2008/4/8, Ian Weller : > > On 4/8/08, Mark wrote: > > > So i see no point in making it if it's not even gonna be used by default. > > > I'm willing to make/adjust the exisiting one from fedora 8 to make it > > > fit with the waves but only if a fedora official can promise me that > > > it's gonna be in and ON by default (so no ugly plain looks in the lock > > > dialog). > > > > > > > There may be a slightly large debate about this, because I think the > > artsy lock dialog is disabled by default upstream. However I'm all for > > this. > > > > +1 -- ian > > any news here on those splashes? > Current case is still that the F8 gnome splash is used in F9 and the > lock dialog is still the plain ugly version. (tested on fully updated > F9) The lock dialog defaults to the "plain" version for usability reasons -- that's something that's been decided upstream by GNOME and we probably won't be changing it any time soon. But *not* making a prettier dialog just because it's not the default seems very silly to me. After all, I work on maintaining packages that aren't installed by default. If everyone felt that doing something not installed by default was not worth the effort, it would be a pretty lame distro! We even include a blurb in our release notes on how to make the pretty lock dialog show up: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Desktop Anyone who's already followed that guidance will see a pretty themed lock dialog *by default*. What would *really* suck is for new users to read the Release Notes, follow the instructions, and then see an old F8 lock dialog when they tried it out. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From markg85 at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 02:09:59 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 04:09:59 +0200 Subject: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <20080415014104.GE13763@localhost.localdomain> References: <47FB8355.4070403@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804080828s44924d19w659fec121853c701@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804140516o4c268d0du7241c4d87a88e544@mail.gmail.com> <20080415014104.GE13763@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804141909t63314a9ak39320354db17d5f3@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/15, Paul W. Frields : > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 02:16:27PM +0200, Mark wrote: > > 2008/4/8, Ian Weller : > > > On 4/8/08, Mark wrote: > > > > So i see no point in making it if it's not even gonna be used by default. > > > > I'm willing to make/adjust the exisiting one from fedora 8 to make it > > > > fit with the waves but only if a fedora official can promise me that > > > > it's gonna be in and ON by default (so no ugly plain looks in the lock > > > > dialog). > > > > > > > > > > There may be a slightly large debate about this, because I think the > > > artsy lock dialog is disabled by default upstream. However I'm all for > > > this. > > > > > > +1 -- ian > > > > any news here on those splashes? > > Current case is still that the F8 gnome splash is used in F9 and the > > lock dialog is still the plain ugly version. (tested on fully updated > > F9) > > > The lock dialog defaults to the "plain" version for usability reasons > -- that's something that's been decided upstream by GNOME and we > probably won't be changing it any time soon. sad that things so simple need to be done upstream while fedora patches away anything that might give them patent issues. lust look at normal codecs that work for everyone (mpeg, mp3 you name it). > > But *not* making a prettier dialog just because it's not the default > seems very silly to me. After all, I work on maintaining packages > that aren't installed by default. If everyone felt that doing > something not installed by default was not worth the effort, it would > be a pretty lame distro! Perhaps you need to go back in the archives for a few minutes. Back in the fedora 8 development cycle i also requested a themed lock dialog and it was made in the fedora 8 theme and _should_ be enabled by default. That promise wasn't kept so i'm not gonna put time in this particular part until i get the promise that it's actually gonna be used. It's just a statement that i'm making here. I'm not gonna put my time in things that should be enabled by default but are for some reason (whatever it is) not on. If this is really so hard to get in then fedora is having policy issues. > > We even include a blurb in our release notes on how to make the pretty > lock dialog show up: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Desktop > > Anyone who's already followed that guidance will see a pretty themed > lock dialog *by default*. What would *really* suck is for new users > to read the Release Notes, follow the instructions, and then see an > old F8 lock dialog when they tried it out. If you don't like my point in this (or Nicu or Ian who seem to have the same point of view) then feel free to do it yourself. It's easy to do and i'm sure that there are a lot of people around you that can help you. Let me clear it up a little more in my point of view. Fedora is a nice distribution, no doubt about that, but it has issues when it comes to uniform theme things. Some things are themed some aren't and that's the case for as long as fedora is existing. Keep everything plain or skinned not a mixture like is the case to this day. From ianweller at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 02:15:53 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:15:53 -0500 (CDT) Subject: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <20080415014104.GE13763@localhost.localdomain> References: <47FB8355.4070403@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804080828s44924d19w659fec121853c701@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804140516o4c268d0du7241c4d87a88e544@mail.gmail.com> <20080415014104.GE13763@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Anyone who's already followed that guidance will see a pretty themed > lock dialog *by default*. What would *really* suck is for new users > to read the Release Notes, follow the instructions, and then see an > old F8 lock dialog when they tried it out. > +1 I'm going to get to work on the lock screen dialog. I'll post to the list when I get it done. -- ian From ianweller at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 02:15:53 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:15:53 -0500 (CDT) Subject: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <20080415014104.GE13763@localhost.localdomain> References: <47FB8355.4070403@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804080828s44924d19w659fec121853c701@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804140516o4c268d0du7241c4d87a88e544@mail.gmail.com> <20080415014104.GE13763@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Anyone who's already followed that guidance will see a pretty themed > lock dialog *by default*. What would *really* suck is for new users > to read the Release Notes, follow the instructions, and then see an > old F8 lock dialog when they tried it out. > +1 I'm going to get to work on the lock screen dialog. I'll post to the list when I get it done. -- ian From ianweller at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 02:18:20 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:18:20 -0500 (CDT) Subject: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804141909t63314a9ak39320354db17d5f3@mail.gmail.com> References: <47FB8355.4070403@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804080828s44924d19w659fec121853c701@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804140516o4c268d0du7241c4d87a88e544@mail.gmail.com> <20080415014104.GE13763@localhost.localdomain> <6e24a8e80804141909t63314a9ak39320354db17d5f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Apr 2008, Mark wrote: > Let me clear it up a little more in my point of view. > Fedora is a nice distribution, no doubt about that, but it has issues > when it comes to uniform theme things. Some things are themed some > aren't and that's the case for as long as fedora is existing. Keep > everything plain or skinned not a mixture like is the case to this > day. > Some things are based on upstream. Fedora tries to keep as close to upstream as possible without it being buggy or on the ForbiddenItems list. There are perfectly reasonable arguments both ways, but I happen to prefer the packager's standpoint, which is stay as close to upstream as possible. -- ian From ianweller at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 02:43:20 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:43:20 -0500 (CDT) Subject: gnome screensaver lock dialog Message-ID: Hey, lock dialog is done. http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/art/waves/gnome-screensaver-lock.svg http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/art/waves/gnome-screensaver-lock.png It's taken straight from RHGB, basically. I also added a border. -- ian From stickster at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 03:03:50 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:03:50 -0400 Subject: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804141909t63314a9ak39320354db17d5f3@mail.gmail.com> References: <47FB8355.4070403@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804080828s44924d19w659fec121853c701@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804140516o4c268d0du7241c4d87a88e544@mail.gmail.com> <20080415014104.GE13763@localhost.localdomain> <6e24a8e80804141909t63314a9ak39320354db17d5f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080415030350.GA4377@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 04:09:59AM +0200, Mark wrote: > If you don't like my point in this (or Nicu or Ian who seem to have > the same point of view) then feel free to do it yourself. It's easy to > do and i'm sure that there are a lot of people around you that can > help you. Done: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=442487 -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stickster at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 03:06:37 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:06:37 -0400 Subject: gnome screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080415030637.GB4377@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 09:43:20PM -0500, Ian Weller wrote: > Hey, lock dialog is done. > > http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/art/waves/gnome-screensaver-lock.svg > http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/art/waves/gnome-screensaver-lock.png > > It's taken straight from RHGB, basically. I also added a border. -- ian The placement of the text over the icon may make this one hard to read from a usability standpoint. I did a version based on the F-8 theme, again using the desktop background which (by nature) might be less problematic as a background. The bug URL again is here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=442487 -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Apr 15 06:40:43 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:10:43 +0530 Subject: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804141909t63314a9ak39320354db17d5f3@mail.gmail.com> References: <47FB8355.4070403@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804080828s44924d19w659fec121853c701@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804140516o4c268d0du7241c4d87a88e544@mail.gmail.com> <20080415014104.GE13763@localhost.localdomain> <6e24a8e80804141909t63314a9ak39320354db17d5f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48044DEB.2090204@fedoraproject.org> Mark wrote: > > sad that things so simple need to be done upstream while fedora > patches away anything that might give them patent issues. lust look at > normal codecs that work for everyone (mpeg, mp3 you name it). In many cases, we don't need to patch anything or we can upstream the patches where the functionality gets separated as plugins. This is the case with gstreamer plugins as an example. A longer explanation is available at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WhyUpstream Rahul Ps: I still think that the themed dialog should be the default but that is a different argument. From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Apr 15 07:16:49 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:16:49 +0300 Subject: Amateur Radio Banner: Rough Sketch B+W In-Reply-To: <1208199409.26289.5.camel@frank-01> References: <1208199409.26289.5.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <48045661.3000309@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > Thought I would look for some feedback first, > > Both will be sourced in Blender and or Wings > > http://www.frankly3d.com/wip/wip.html > > B\G on (2) will be Sky + Fedora Blue > > If neither is suitable, we'll go again For this banner your primary customer is the Amateur Radio SIG and Bob, the requester. He is the one that should give you a thumb up, just ask Michael about how he worked [1] on the Fonts SIG banner :p My advice is to focus on the logo, you will use exactly the same logo for the banner and probably a simplified version of it for the icon. [1] - http://michaelbox.net/blog/?p=16 -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Apr 15 07:28:49 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:28:49 +0300 Subject: New Designer In-Reply-To: <2c4223b90804142045q6d83d908p71c86dd6ba5fcbc8@mail.gmail.com> References: <2c4223b90804142045q6d83d908p71c86dd6ba5fcbc8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48045931.3030308@nicubunu.ro> Macky Jo Ruiz wrote: > Hello all, my name is Macky Ruiz, and I'm a graphic designer. I've just > graduated from Brooks College in December. I don't have much experience, > but my website portfolio speaks for itself. Hi Macky and welcome! Take a look at our open tasks queue and see if you find something interesting to work on: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Apr 15 07:37:22 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:37:22 +0300 Subject: Self Introduction: Ryan Lerch In-Reply-To: <671a617b0804142102k79249f89qcf37ddc9acbf7bf7@mail.gmail.com> References: <671a617b0804142102k79249f89qcf37ddc9acbf7bf7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48045B32.7030400@nicubunu.ro> ryan lerch wrote: > Hi All, Hi Ryan, I am glad to see you here. > My name is Ryan Lerch, and would like to contribute to fedora via the > Art Team. I am an amateur graphic designer, and willing to help out > basically anywhere that i am needed. Other projects i contribute to are > Inkscape and the Open Clip Art Library. Any suggestions / ideas for a I worked with Ryan for a long time, both on Inkscape and OCAL, we collaborated on tutorials and more. He is a valuable addition on our team. > good starting out task are appreciated. I scanned the list and thought > this one may be suitable: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService#head-1d57965f144d16a3c1c4cdbfda053e0fc8e3987f Just a little time ago Frank published some sketches for the Amaterur Radio SIG, too bad he didn't update the status on the DesignService page: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-April/msg00306.html -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From frankly3d at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 07:47:49 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:47:49 +0100 Subject: Self Introduction: Ryan Lerch In-Reply-To: <48045B32.7030400@nicubunu.ro> References: <671a617b0804142102k79249f89qcf37ddc9acbf7bf7@mail.gmail.com> <48045B32.7030400@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1208245669.568.0.camel@frank-01> On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 10:37 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > ryan lerch wrote: > > Hi All, > Just a little time ago Frank published some sketches for the Amaterur > Radio SIG, too bad he didn't update the status on the DesignService page: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-April/msg00306.html My bad, trying to rectify now, blame the meds. Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From frankly3d at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 08:08:52 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:08:52 +0100 Subject: Wiki -Editing, I'm stuck In-Reply-To: <48045B32.7030400@nicubunu.ro> References: <671a617b0804142102k79249f89qcf37ddc9acbf7bf7@mail.gmail.com> <48045B32.7030400@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1208246932.939.4.camel@frank-01> I would like to change the status of "Amateur Radio" to taken. But I need to sign the CLA (no problems here) But under the new art rules: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork#head-78d3710853ccb74e8b65c36d515052321c3860f2 Have to finish task and have it accepted before proceeding to step 2 (cla) So any advice appreciated, currently cannot change status. Unless I cheat by signing cla, which am very reluctant to do, as it breaches above progression. Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Apr 15 08:10:52 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:10:52 +0300 Subject: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <20080415014104.GE13763@localhost.localdomain> References: <47FB8355.4070403@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804080828s44924d19w659fec121853c701@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804140516o4c268d0du7241c4d87a88e544@mail.gmail.com> <20080415014104.GE13763@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4804630C.1090703@nicubunu.ro> Paul W. Frields wrote: > > The lock dialog defaults to the "plain" version for usability reasons > -- that's something that's been decided upstream by GNOME and we > probably won't be changing it any time soon. While I understand the point about usability (and appreciate you did the work and submitted a design - IIRC this in not the first time you do that), don't you think the root of the problem has to be addressed? If we think a feature is that bad for usability reasons, shouldn't we just drop it? Or make the themed dialog more usable or the simple dialog prettier? There *must* be a way to have something both usable and pleasant looking. To me, shipping two dialogs, one that is usable and another that is pretty is like knowingly ship something broken and just papering over it a temporary solution. And I learned sometime you have to break the temporary solution to get the problem solved properly. > But *not* making a prettier dialog just because it's not the default > seems very silly to me. After all, I work on maintaining packages > that aren't installed by default. If everyone felt that doing > something not installed by default was not worth the effort, it would > be a pretty lame distro! -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Apr 15 08:19:31 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:19:31 +0300 Subject: Wiki -Editing, I'm stuck In-Reply-To: <1208246932.939.4.camel@frank-01> References: <671a617b0804142102k79249f89qcf37ddc9acbf7bf7@mail.gmail.com> <48045B32.7030400@nicubunu.ro> <1208246932.939.4.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <48046513.3070709@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > I would like to change the status of "Amateur Radio" to taken. > > But I need to sign the CLA (no problems here) > > But under the new art rules: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork#head-78d3710853ccb74e8b65c36d515052321c3860f2 > > Have to finish task and have it accepted before proceeding to step 2 > (cla) No, you got the process wrong: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EditGroupQueue 1. sign the CLA 2. get wiki edit rights 3. request membership in the Art group in FAS The task is required only for the last step, which is in addition to CLA and wiki editing. With that being said, seeing your recently activity on the list, I think it may be considered enough to get FAS membership of the group. > So any advice appreciated, > currently cannot change status. > Unless I cheat by signing cla, > which am very reluctant to do, > as it breaches above progression. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From frankly3d at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 08:39:40 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:39:40 +0100 Subject: Wiki -Editing, I'm stuck In-Reply-To: <48046513.3070709@nicubunu.ro> References: <671a617b0804142102k79249f89qcf37ddc9acbf7bf7@mail.gmail.com> <48045B32.7030400@nicubunu.ro> <1208246932.939.4.camel@frank-01> <48046513.3070709@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1208248780.4404.4.camel@frank-01> On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 11:19 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > 1. sign the CLA > 2. get wiki edit rights > 3. request membership in the Art group in FAS Will do it as soon as get the child from dentist, Thanks for the patience Nicu. Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From johannbg at hi.is Tue Apr 15 11:02:09 2008 From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:02:09 +0000 Subject: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <4804630C.1090703@nicubunu.ro> References: <47FB8355.4070403@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804080828s44924d19w659fec121853c701@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804140516o4c268d0du7241c4d87a88e544@mail.gmail.com> <20080415014104.GE13763@localhost.localdomain> <4804630C.1090703@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <48048B31.1050606@hi.is> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Paul W. Frields wrote: >> >> The lock dialog defaults to the "plain" version for usability reasons >> -- that's something that's been decided upstream by GNOME and we >> probably won't be changing it any time soon. > > While I understand the point about usability (and appreciate you did > the work and submitted a design - IIRC this in not the first time you > do that), don't you think the root of the problem has to be addressed? > If we think a feature is that bad for usability reasons, shouldn't we > just drop it? Or make the themed dialog more usable or the simple > dialog prettier? > There *must* be a way to have something both usable and pleasant looking. > +1 > To me, shipping two dialogs, one that is usable and another that is > pretty is like knowingly ship something broken and just papering over > it a temporary solution. > And I learned sometime you have to break the temporary solution to get > the problem solved properly. > +1 true.. I personally think we should enable lock-screen-dialog theme by default but leave the splash screen off. ( with the new gdm look it looks out of place + my laptop is so fast loading I just see for very short time :) ) Not enabling it puts the lock screen out of place with the overall theme. I also think the lock screen dialog should look closer to the gdm look. ( as in the frame/look where the user choose his login account ) We could move the password and the buttons beneath the picture and the display name. ( having that above the user picture and DN seems out of place ) And drop the login name and the hostname I don't see the purpose of having that at all. Best regards Johann B. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Gu?mundsson wrote: > > I personally think we should enable lock-screen-dialog theme by default > but leave the splash screen off. > ( with the new gdm look it looks out of place + my laptop is so fast > loading I just see for very short time :) ) The GNOME splash *is* off by default. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From johannbg at hi.is Tue Apr 15 11:26:19 2008 From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:26:19 +0000 Subject: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <48048B31.1050606@hi.is> References: <47FB8355.4070403@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804080828s44924d19w659fec121853c701@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804140516o4c268d0du7241c4d87a88e544@mail.gmail.com> <20080415014104.GE13763@localhost.localdomain> <4804630C.1090703@nicubunu.ro> <48048B31.1050606@hi.is> Message-ID: <480490DB.3060904@hi.is> J?hann B. Gu?mundsson wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: >> Paul W. Frields wrote: >>> >>> The lock dialog defaults to the "plain" version for usability reasons >>> -- that's something that's been decided upstream by GNOME and we >>> probably won't be changing it any time soon. >> >> While I understand the point about usability (and appreciate you did >> the work and submitted a design - IIRC this in not the first time you >> do that), don't you think the root of the problem has to be addressed? >> If we think a feature is that bad for usability reasons, shouldn't we >> just drop it? Or make the themed dialog more usable or the simple >> dialog prettier? >> There *must* be a way to have something both usable and pleasant >> looking. >> > +1 >> To me, shipping two dialogs, one that is usable and another that is >> pretty is like knowingly ship something broken and just papering over >> it a temporary solution. >> And I learned sometime you have to break the temporary solution to >> get the problem solved properly. >> > +1 true.. > > I personally think we should enable lock-screen-dialog theme by > default but leave the splash screen off. > ( with the new gdm look it looks out of place + my laptop is so fast > loading I just see for very short time :) ) > > Not enabling it puts the lock screen out of place with the overall theme. > > I also think the lock screen dialog should look closer to the gdm look. > ( as in the frame/look where the user choose his login account ) > Hum skip the lock-screen-waves looking more like the gdm login box. I always end up with conclusion that the gdm login box is out of place. > We could move the password and the buttons beneath the picture and the > display name. ( having that above the user picture and DN seems out > of place ) > And drop the login name and the hostname I don't see the purpose of > having that at all. > If what I mention above is done I think lock-screen-waves would look even better :). Best regards Johann B. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Gu?mundsson wrote: >> >> I personally think we should enable lock-screen-dialog theme by >> default but leave the splash screen off. >> ( with the new gdm look it looks out of place + my laptop is so fast >> loading I just see for very short time :) ) > > The GNOME splash *is* off by default. > As I thought. Best regards Johann B. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From stickster at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 12:38:49 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:38:49 -0400 Subject: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <4804630C.1090703@nicubunu.ro> References: <47FB8355.4070403@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804080828s44924d19w659fec121853c701@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804140516o4c268d0du7241c4d87a88e544@mail.gmail.com> <20080415014104.GE13763@localhost.localdomain> <4804630C.1090703@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <20080415123849.GC12881@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:10:52AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Paul W. Frields wrote: >> >> The lock dialog defaults to the "plain" version for usability reasons >> -- that's something that's been decided upstream by GNOME and we >> probably won't be changing it any time soon. > > While I understand the point about usability (and appreciate you did the > work and submitted a design - IIRC this in not the first time you do that), > don't you think the root of the problem has to be addressed? > If we think a feature is that bad for usability reasons, shouldn't we just > drop it? Or make the themed dialog more usable or the simple dialog > prettier? > There *must* be a way to have something both usable and pleasant looking. > > To me, shipping two dialogs, one that is usable and another that is pretty > is like knowingly ship something broken and just papering over it a > temporary solution. > And I learned sometime you have to break the temporary solution to get the > problem solved properly. Just for the record, I don't disagree at all with wanting to have a prettier lock dialog, I just haven't felt particularly burdened by it. I'd say, lobby the desktop guys about this and work something out. :-) This isn't the first time (or the only subproject) ;-) where we start talking about these changes too late in the release cycle, but maybe we can get a permanent, mutually acceptable solution for Fedora 10. However, it ought to be just that, a *solution*, rather than simply advocating for switching a default without knowing why it hasn't been that way before. I'm cc'ing some of the desktop guys personally just because we want to get their attention -- hopefully they can explain what the usability factors are, and how we can have a design that meets those requirements for the future while looking prettier. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From markg85 at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 12:55:12 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:55:12 +0200 Subject: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <20080415123849.GC12881@localhost.localdomain> References: <47FB8355.4070403@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804080828s44924d19w659fec121853c701@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804140516o4c268d0du7241c4d87a88e544@mail.gmail.com> <20080415014104.GE13763@localhost.localdomain> <4804630C.1090703@nicubunu.ro> <20080415123849.GC12881@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804150555p761d913eo13b604b71de3f4c1@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/15, Paul W. Frields : > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:10:52AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> > >> The lock dialog defaults to the "plain" version for usability reasons > >> -- that's something that's been decided upstream by GNOME and we > >> probably won't be changing it any time soon. > > > > While I understand the point about usability (and appreciate you did the > > work and submitted a design - IIRC this in not the first time you do that), > > don't you think the root of the problem has to be addressed? > > If we think a feature is that bad for usability reasons, shouldn't we just > > drop it? Or make the themed dialog more usable or the simple dialog > > prettier? > > There *must* be a way to have something both usable and pleasant looking. > > > > To me, shipping two dialogs, one that is usable and another that is pretty > > is like knowingly ship something broken and just papering over it a > > temporary solution. > > And I learned sometime you have to break the temporary solution to get the > > problem solved properly. > > > Just for the record, I don't disagree at all with wanting to have a > prettier lock dialog, I just haven't felt particularly burdened by it. > I'd say, lobby the desktop guys about this and work something out. :-) > > This isn't the first time (or the only subproject) ;-) where we start > talking about these changes too late in the release cycle, but maybe > we can get a permanent, mutually acceptable solution for Fedora 10. > However, it ought to be just that, a *solution*, rather than simply > advocating for switching a default without knowing why it hasn't been > that way before. > > I'm cc'ing some of the desktop guys personally just because we want to > get their attention -- hopefully they can explain what the usability > factors are, and how we can have a design that meets those > requirements for the future while looking prettier. > Now that's going better. But why is it so hard to adjust one gconf value by default? Fedora does that with firefox and i'm sure with others as well. So why is it so hard to change one gconf value by default? Isn't there a global conf package in fedora that manages the gconf changes? And if you read the reply's here everyone wants to have it on by default, even you said that, so.. what's the point in ignoring that? Don't tell me that making it themed can "confuse" users (something like that was said when i requested it in the F8 development cycle). Btw i saw the lock dialog now and it's height is a bit overdone for just a lock dialog if you ask me. I will make a mockup of what i like later today. From stickster at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 13:20:59 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:20:59 -0400 Subject: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804150555p761d913eo13b604b71de3f4c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <47FB8355.4070403@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804080828s44924d19w659fec121853c701@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804140516o4c268d0du7241c4d87a88e544@mail.gmail.com> <20080415014104.GE13763@localhost.localdomain> <4804630C.1090703@nicubunu.ro> <20080415123849.GC12881@localhost.localdomain> <6e24a8e80804150555p761d913eo13b604b71de3f4c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080415132059.GB16790@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 02:55:12PM +0200, Mark wrote: > 2008/4/15, Paul W. Frields : > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:10:52AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > > Paul W. Frields wrote: > > >> > > >> The lock dialog defaults to the "plain" version for usability reasons > > >> -- that's something that's been decided upstream by GNOME and we > > >> probably won't be changing it any time soon. > > > > > > While I understand the point about usability (and appreciate you did the > > > work and submitted a design - IIRC this in not the first time you do that), > > > don't you think the root of the problem has to be addressed? > > > If we think a feature is that bad for usability reasons, shouldn't we just > > > drop it? Or make the themed dialog more usable or the simple dialog > > > prettier? > > > There *must* be a way to have something both usable and pleasant looking. > > > > > > To me, shipping two dialogs, one that is usable and another that is pretty > > > is like knowingly ship something broken and just papering over it a > > > temporary solution. > > > And I learned sometime you have to break the temporary solution to get the > > > problem solved properly. > > > > > > Just for the record, I don't disagree at all with wanting to have a > > prettier lock dialog, I just haven't felt particularly burdened by it. > > I'd say, lobby the desktop guys about this and work something out. :-) > > > > This isn't the first time (or the only subproject) ;-) where we start > > talking about these changes too late in the release cycle, but maybe > > we can get a permanent, mutually acceptable solution for Fedora 10. > > However, it ought to be just that, a *solution*, rather than simply > > advocating for switching a default without knowing why it hasn't been > > that way before. > > > > I'm cc'ing some of the desktop guys personally just because we want to > > get their attention -- hopefully they can explain what the usability > > factors are, and how we can have a design that meets those > > requirements for the future while looking prettier. > > > Now that's going better. Yet I failed to CC the people in question, sorry. Taking care of that with this message. > But why is it so hard to adjust one gconf value by default? Fedora > does that with firefox and i'm sure with others as well. So why is it > so hard to change one gconf value by default? Isn't there a global > conf package in fedora that manages the gconf changes? It's not hard, we just try to minimize it. Working with upstream is the Fedora mantra. > And if you read the reply's here everyone wants to have it on by > default, even you said that, so.. what's the point in ignoring that? > Don't tell me that making it themed can "confuse" users (something > like that was said when i requested it in the F8 development cycle). That's not what I said -- please reread. I said I wouldn't object to having a better lock dialog, but that needs to be done in concert with upstream and whatever usability standards apply. > Btw i saw the lock dialog now and it's height is a bit overdone for > just a lock dialog if you ask me. I will make a mockup of what i like > later today. I'm glad you're now interested in doing this. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mclasen at redhat.com Tue Apr 15 13:38:09 2008 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:38:09 -0400 Subject: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804150555p761d913eo13b604b71de3f4c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <47FB8355.4070403@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804080828s44924d19w659fec121853c701@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804140516o4c268d0du7241c4d87a88e544@mail.gmail.com> <20080415014104.GE13763@localhost.localdomain> <4804630C.1090703@nicubunu.ro> <20080415123849.GC12881@localhost.localdomain> <6e24a8e80804150555p761d913eo13b604b71de3f4c1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1208266689.3341.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 14:55 +0200, Mark wrote: > 2008/4/15, Paul W. Frields : > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:10:52AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > > Paul W. Frields wrote: > > >> > > >> The lock dialog defaults to the "plain" version for usability reasons > > >> -- that's something that's been decided upstream by GNOME and we > > >> probably won't be changing it any time soon. > > > > > > While I understand the point about usability (and appreciate you did the > > > work and submitted a design - IIRC this in not the first time you do that), > > > don't you think the root of the problem has to be addressed? > > > If we think a feature is that bad for usability reasons, shouldn't we just > > > drop it? Or make the themed dialog more usable or the simple dialog > > > prettier? > > > There *must* be a way to have something both usable and pleasant looking. > > > > > > To me, shipping two dialogs, one that is usable and another that is pretty > > > is like knowingly ship something broken and just papering over it a > > > temporary solution. > > > And I learned sometime you have to break the temporary solution to get the > > > problem solved properly. > > > > > > Just for the record, I don't disagree at all with wanting to have a > > prettier lock dialog, I just haven't felt particularly burdened by it. > > I'd say, lobby the desktop guys about this and work something out. :-) > > > > This isn't the first time (or the only subproject) ;-) where we start > > talking about these changes too late in the release cycle, but maybe > > we can get a permanent, mutually acceptable solution for Fedora 10. > > However, it ought to be just that, a *solution*, rather than simply > > advocating for switching a default without knowing why it hasn't been > > that way before. > > > > I'm cc'ing some of the desktop guys personally just because we want to > > get their attention -- hopefully they can explain what the usability > > factors are, and how we can have a design that meets those > > requirements for the future while looking prettier. > > > Now that's going better. > But why is it so hard to adjust one gconf value by default? Fedora > does that with firefox and i'm sure with others as well. So why is it > so hard to change one gconf value by default? Isn't there a global > conf package in fedora that manages the gconf changes? Maybe you don't realize that _we_ were the ones who added the code for themed lock dialogs in the first place ? We tried it, and consider it a bit of a failed experiment. If it causes the art team heartburn, we should probably just rip it out again... From stickster at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 14:13:21 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:13:21 -0400 Subject: gnome splash and screensaver lock dialog In-Reply-To: <1208266689.3341.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <47FB8355.4070403@fedoraproject.org> <6e24a8e80804080828s44924d19w659fec121853c701@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804140516o4c268d0du7241c4d87a88e544@mail.gmail.com> <20080415014104.GE13763@localhost.localdomain> <4804630C.1090703@nicubunu.ro> <20080415123849.GC12881@localhost.localdomain> <6e24a8e80804150555p761d913eo13b604b71de3f4c1@mail.gmail.com> <1208266689.3341.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20080415141321.GA5511@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:38:09AM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 14:55 +0200, Mark wrote: > > 2008/4/15, Paul W. Frields : > > > Just for the record, I don't disagree at all with wanting to have a > > > prettier lock dialog, I just haven't felt particularly burdened by it. > > > I'd say, lobby the desktop guys about this and work something out. :-) > > > > > > This isn't the first time (or the only subproject) ;-) where we start > > > talking about these changes too late in the release cycle, but maybe > > > we can get a permanent, mutually acceptable solution for Fedora 10. > > > However, it ought to be just that, a *solution*, rather than simply > > > advocating for switching a default without knowing why it hasn't been > > > that way before. > > > > > > I'm cc'ing some of the desktop guys personally just because we want to > > > get their attention -- hopefully they can explain what the usability > > > factors are, and how we can have a design that meets those > > > requirements for the future while looking prettier. > > > > > Now that's going better. > > But why is it so hard to adjust one gconf value by default? Fedora > > does that with firefox and i'm sure with others as well. So why is it > > so hard to change one gconf value by default? Isn't there a global > > conf package in fedora that manages the gconf changes? > > > Maybe you don't realize that _we_ were the ones who added the code for > themed lock dialogs in the first place ? We tried it, and consider it a > bit of a failed experiment. If it causes the art team heartburn, we > should probably just rip it out again... How has it failed? Genuinely curious, not a troll. Is there some way that the Artwork project could design a themed lock screen that makes everyone happy (happier)? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Gu?mundsson" wrote: > > > I also think the lock screen dialog should look closer to the gdm look. > > ( as in the frame/look where the user choose his login account ) > > One of the things that the new gdm architecture should allow us to do > (in theory, at least) is to _use_ the login screen for unlocking a > locked session. > Now, *that* would be great! We only need to make the gdm a little prettier. I myself think that it's a good idea to use plain gtk in there against standard background, but there's one thing that's kinda missing - window manager. The "window" in the dialog looks a little strange, because it does not have any borders and it's just plain rectangle. Rounded corners and simple border (note, that I mean border only - no window caption) wouldn't hurt IMHO. Generally, I dislike themed lock dialogue (but don't like the look of the unthemed one either), usually it gets a little too fancy and not much usable. I don't think themes are well fit for such dialogues... 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As in having separated theme for different state of logged in user. Different background, Different color on login box Different color on the user currently in locked state or switched user state. ( few things on top of my head.. ) This theory could be a potential feature for F10. Instead of have to create 2 separated themes for gdm and "lock" one could just be created which changes background and or changes just the color on the user box in the gdm login box depending on the state that the user is inn ( locked or switched ). Best regards Johann B. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: johannbg.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 365 bytes Desc: not available URL: From tatadbb at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 14:37:32 2008 From: tatadbb at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:07:32 +1930 Subject: FedoraEvents - Artwork/DesignService Message-ID: <27a6293b0804150737p5c0eca23v871e0c680d292d57@mail.gmail.com> hi. I was looking the Fedora Design Service request and made some draft. This came out. Maybe it could work. Salutex! -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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As for the particular graphic, I am *not* concerned about the calendar being English (some may be), but I would add a drop shadow to the icon. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From tatadbb at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 15:12:37 2008 From: tatadbb at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:42:37 +1930 Subject: FedoraEvents - Artwork/DesignService In-Reply-To: <4804C102.5060009@nicubunu.ro> References: <27a6293b0804150737p5c0eca23v871e0c680d292d57@mail.gmail.com> <4804C102.5060009@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <27a6293b0804150812v2140d099lc076a6265ffdcb56@mail.gmail.com> yup... you're right... not even me use English as a native language. What about this design? salutex! 2008/4/16, Nicu Buculei : > > Mar?a Leandro wrote: > > > > > I was looking the Fedora Design Service request and made some draft. > > This came out. Maybe it could work. > > > > Clever move, this graphic is important, very soon we will hold release > parties, those parties will be listed in the Events page and the Events page > does not have a banner yet. > > Please post the image in the wiki and let the requester (Fabian Affolter) > know about it. > > As for the particular graphic, I am *not* concerned about the calendar > being English (some may be), but I would add a drop shadow to the icon. > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... 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I find it good enough, but as I said, not *we* are those who should like it. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From ryanlerch at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 20:23:17 2008 From: ryanlerch at gmail.com (ryan lerch) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:23:17 +1000 Subject: FedoraEvents - Artwork/DesignService In-Reply-To: <4804D063.8040703@nicubunu.ro> References: <27a6293b0804150737p5c0eca23v871e0c680d292d57@mail.gmail.com> <4804C102.5060009@nicubunu.ro> <27a6293b0804150812v2140d099lc076a6265ffdcb56@mail.gmail.com> <4804D063.8040703@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <671a617b0804151323x56af9bbbk7267e626ce32d09d@mail.gmail.com> is there an SVG template or a page wiki with the dimensions, guidelines etc for these banners? i searched for it yesterday, but could not find it. cheers, ryanlerch On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 1:57 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Mar?a Leandro wrote: > > > yup... you're right... not even me use English as a native language. > > > > What about this design? > > > > I find it good enough, but as I said, not *we* are those who should like > it. > > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On the subject of the banner itself, i like the second one better (with the squares instead of the written date...) IMO, it still portrays the Event / Date metaphor effectively. The only other ideas i had for an image for this banner were involving "party" items like a foamy beer or a martini, which could also protray an "Event". However i think the date / calendar image is a much better way to go.... cheers, ryanlerch 2008/4/16 Mar?a Leandro : > I didn't too :S that's why I made my own sgv. > > > > 2008/4/16, ryan lerch : > > > is there an SVG template or a page wiki with the dimensions, guidelines > > etc for these banners? i searched for it yesterday, but could not find it. > > > > cheers, > > > > ryanlerch > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 1:57 AM, Nicu Buculei > > wrote: > > > > > Mar?a Leandro wrote: > > > > > > > yup... you're right... not even me use English as a native language. > > > > > > > > What about this design? > > > > > > > > > > I find it good enough, but as I said, not *we* are those who should > > > like it. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > > > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > > > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > > > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.iseit.net > http://www.latinux.org > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... 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URW Gothic L i might make up a default template with clones and such, allowing for easy > creation of these banners... > > On the subject of the banner itself, i like the second one better (with > the squares instead of the written date...) > IMO, it still portrays the Event / Date metaphor effectively. The only > other ideas i had for an image for this banner were involving "party" items > like a foamy beer or a martini, which could also protray an "Event". However > i think the date / calendar image is a much better way to go.... lol :D cheers, > > ryanlerch > > 2008/4/16 Mar?a Leandro : > > > I didn't too :S that's why I made my own sgv. > > > > > > > > 2008/4/16, ryan lerch : > > > > > is there an SVG template or a page wiki with the dimensions, > > > guidelines etc for these banners? i searched for it yesterday, but could not > > > find it. > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > ryanlerch > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 1:57 AM, Nicu Buculei > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Mar?a Leandro wrote: > > > > > > > > > yup... you're right... not even me use English as a native > > > > > language. > > > > > > > > > > What about this design? > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find it good enough, but as I said, not *we* are those who should > > > > like it. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > > > > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > > > > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > > > > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > tatica > > Maria Gracia Leandro > > http://www.tatica.org > > http://www.iseit.net > > http://www.latinux.org > > http://www.fedora-ve.org > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > > LinuxUser= 440285 > > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If it will help, you are more than welcome to use this. http://www.zianet.com/ZYLOO/JRC-HF.png (Built in the GIMP.) 73 Dan From jeff at ocjtech.us Wed Apr 16 02:28:49 2008 From: jeff at ocjtech.us (Jeffrey Ollie) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:28:49 -0500 Subject: Wiki Banner Template (work in progress) In-Reply-To: <671a617b0804151736j1f38233ag5594e96a3f178281@mail.gmail.com> References: <671a617b0804151736j1f38233ag5594e96a3f178281@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <935ead450804151928r43246559sdc6a9a9ad43d60ef@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/15 ryan lerch : > > Any ideas / suggestions are appreciated... Looks pretty good. One thing I would recommend would be to set up the text to be right aligned by default... Jeff From ryanlerch at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 03:33:42 2008 From: ryanlerch at gmail.com (ryan lerch) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:33:42 +1000 Subject: Amateur Radio Banner: Rough Sketch B+W In-Reply-To: <48045661.3000309@nicubunu.ro> References: <1208199409.26289.5.camel@frank-01> <48045661.3000309@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <671a617b0804152033s108d044ncd194fb0260fd4d5@mail.gmail.com> frank, i started playing around with your idea's a little bit. I tried to do an SVG of the grid - head you outlined in your sketch. thought i would throw it to the list, so you and others can use it if you want. not too sure about the colours... attached is the PNG and the SVGz source... cheers, ryanlerch On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Nicu Buculei > > Both will be sourced in Blender and or Wings > > > > http://www.frankly3d.com/wip/wip.html > > > > B\G on (2) will be Sky + Fedora Blue > > > > If neither is suitable, we'll go again > > o> wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: > > > Thought I would look for some feedback first, > > > > Both will be sourced in Blender and or Wings > > > > http://www.frankly3d.com/wip/wip.html > > > > B\G on (2) will be Sky + Fedora Blue > > > > If neither is suitable, we'll go again > > > > For this banner your primary customer is the Amateur Radio SIG and Bob, > the requester. 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Even if all the info isn't there, it *should* be: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/WikiDesign -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From ryanlerch at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 05:52:20 2008 From: ryanlerch at gmail.com (ryan lerch) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:52:20 +1000 Subject: FedoraEvents - Artwork/DesignService In-Reply-To: <4805927E.9090000@nicubunu.ro> References: <27a6293b0804150737p5c0eca23v871e0c680d292d57@mail.gmail.com> <4804C102.5060009@nicubunu.ro> <27a6293b0804150812v2140d099lc076a6265ffdcb56@mail.gmail.com> <4804D063.8040703@nicubunu.ro> <671a617b0804151323x56af9bbbk7267e626ce32d09d@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0804151405q66e4c04bj888c3d6999addaea@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804151518r702d2f19qb37909d841319d10@mail.gmail.com> <4805927E.9090000@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <671a617b0804152252h2ae10f55ha6f4345fbf5b93a4@mail.gmail.com> Nicu Buculei wrote: > > Even if all the info isn't there, it *should* be: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/WikiDesign > > page for wikibanners across the board or just the ArtTeam banner? 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Have a look at my work on "Fedora-USB-Pen Totem" realized with help of Francesco Crippa and Luca Foppiano (Fedora Ambassadors) at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/LiveUsbCreator and let me know ur comments and improvement, and soon I'll start refactoring for Fedora 9 theme. I hope to join Artwork team ASAP. ;) Ciao Samuele From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Apr 16 13:12:32 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:12:32 +0300 Subject: Hello World In-Reply-To: <1183952795.3311208349087023.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <1183952795.3311208349087023.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <4805FB40.6050406@nicubunu.ro> Samuele Storari wrote: > Dears *, Hi Samuele! > I'm Samuele an Art Director from Italy and I'm happy to join Artwork mailing list. :D Welcome! > A couple of weeks ago, I joined a Linux and Open Source company and I discovered a new interesting world. > > I'm really excited about this way of sharin' ideas and projects, so I would like to join Fedora Artwork to help with my skills and also improve my knowledge of this world (gettin' some help on Inkscape and GIMP after years of Adobe stuff). Our main queue of open tasks is here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService If you have questions about GIMP or Inkscape usage, do not be afraid to ask here. > Have a look at my work on "Fedora-USB-Pen Totem" realized with help of Francesco Crippa and Luca Foppiano (Fedora Ambassadors) at: My suggestion is to get yourself a wiki account and upload on the wiki on your own. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/LiveUsbCreator > > and let me know ur comments and improvement, and soon I'll start refactoring for Fedora 9 theme. It looks nice but there are two problems with the image: - you have used a wrong color for the Fedora logo on the stick, read here about the correct usage: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines - an even bigger problem (it may be considered copyright infringement): you (well, Franceso in your place) uploaded to the wiki a *proprietary* font, Artista. This is not allowed by the font's license, please remove it ASAP (if you want to preserve the typeface in the SVG, convert the text to paths). > I hope to join Artwork team ASAP. ;) As I said above, welcome! -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From mspevack at redhat.com Wed Apr 16 16:55:50 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: <1208107750.12617.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> <1208079234.3064.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1208107750.12617.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Sun, 13 Apr 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: > To reiterate a previous comment, we absolutely need to print the URL > on the CD/DVD covers -- the back side would be a good place: > > http://fedoraproject.org/ I sent an email out a while back about this... I would really like to get the artwork to our CD and DVD manufacturer as soon as possible, but I don't feel like the art team has settled yet on the designs that they want to use as the "official" artwork for this release, that will be used on the thousands of professionally made CDs and DVDs that we produce. If we want to minimize the lag time between final release and CDs actually being ready, we need to get this artwork pretty much ASAP. --Max From stickster at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 20:11:16 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:11:16 -0400 Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> <1208079234.3064.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1208107750.12617.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1208376676.16676.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 12:55 -0400, Max Spevack wrote: > On Sun, 13 Apr 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > To reiterate a previous comment, we absolutely need to print the URL > > on the CD/DVD covers -- the back side would be a good place: > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/ > > I sent an email out a while back about this... I would really like to > get the artwork to our CD and DVD manufacturer as soon as possible, but > I don't feel like the art team has settled yet on the designs that they > want to use as the "official" artwork for this release, that will be > used on the thousands of professionally made CDs and DVDs that we > produce. > > If we want to minimize the lag time between final release and CDs > actually being ready, we need to get this artwork pretty much ASAP. This has continually been painful for every release. Granted, for Fedora 10 the design schedule may work out as an improvement, but what about: * removing the Werewolf from the F8 design for the disc itself, updating any dates or numbers as required * A background-derived cover sleeve, similarly updating names * Adding the URL to the back cover -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ryanlerch at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 20:22:29 2008 From: ryanlerch at gmail.com (ryan lerch) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:22:29 +1000 Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: <1208376676.16676.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> <1208079234.3064.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1208107750.12617.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1208376676.16676.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <671a617b0804161322s74e0457bhc8139401190a3576@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/17 Paul W. Frields : > > This has continually been painful for every release. Granted, for > Fedora 10 the design schedule may work out as an improvement, but what > about: > > * removing the Werewolf from the F8 design for the disc itself, updating > any dates or numbers as required > * A background-derived cover sleeve, similarly updating names > * Adding the URL to the back cover > > > Where can i get the sources (SVG if they exist) of these images? I can try to get a draft of some F9 disc art posted back onto the list in a few hours.... cheers, ryanlerch -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gradyfausta at laksmono.com Wed Apr 16 21:39:35 2008 From: gradyfausta at laksmono.com (Grady Laksmono) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:39:35 -0700 Subject: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Does anybody have some type of posters for Fedora 9? I'd want to get the price quote on that one instead. I'd think that I could produce the fliers using the college's copy machine, which is free!!! :) Thanks, Grady On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Grady Laksmono wrote: > Hi all, > Does anybody have suggestion and/or creative design, and/or ideas for > the Fedora 9 Release Party? I'm trying to request a price quote to the > printing service for the Los Angeles Fedora 9 Release Party, but > they're requesting a specific design to be sent to them so that they > could give me a price quote. I could design it myself, but I'm more a > programmer rather than artists, and so I think that it would be better > if I could get some "real" design from Fedora artists such that Fedora > will appear much more professional for the Los Angeles Fedora 9 > Release Party. > > Sending me some abstract design that I could customized would be > really appreciate it. > > Here's the links for more detailed information: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono/Los_Angeles_Release_Party > http://acm.calstatela.edu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2487 > http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Los_Angeles_Fedora_9_Release_Party > > Thanks, > Grady Laksmono > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono/Los_Angeles_Release_Party > From ryanlerch at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 22:38:19 2008 From: ryanlerch at gmail.com (ryan lerch) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:38:19 +1000 Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: <671a617b0804161322s74e0457bhc8139401190a3576@mail.gmail.com> References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> <1208079234.3064.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1208107750.12617.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1208376676.16676.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804161322s74e0457bhc8139401190a3576@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <671a617b0804161538o35a02899rccd55b7e50053db2@mail.gmail.com> > > 2008/4/17 Paul W. Frields : > > > This has continually been painful for every release. Granted, for > > Fedora 10 the design schedule may work out as an improvement, but what > > about: > > > > * removing the Werewolf from the F8 design for the disc itself, updating > > any dates or numbers as required > > * A background-derived cover sleeve, similarly updating names > > * Adding the URL to the back cover > > > > Okay, done a quick bit of work on a DVD cover... and it is attached to this email as a SVGz. I'm not sure about printing etc, so all the blur of the ripples may be too much. Also, the text in the copyright statement is from the FC5 cover, and that is why is says 2006. Should this text be the same apart from the year? the actual CD / DVD is next on my list to do this morning, so any feedback about this one is appreciated... cheers, ryanlerch -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sending me some abstract design that I could customized would be really appreciate it. Here's the links for more detailed information: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono/Los_Angeles_Release_Party http://acm.calstatela.edu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2487 http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Los_Angeles_Fedora_9_Release_Party Thanks, Grady Laksmono http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono/Los_Angeles_Release_Party From ryanlerch at gmail.com Thu Apr 17 03:22:05 2008 From: ryanlerch at gmail.com (ryan lerch) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:22:05 +1000 Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: <671a617b0804161538o35a02899rccd55b7e50053db2@mail.gmail.com> References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> <1208079234.3064.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1208107750.12617.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1208376676.16676.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804161322s74e0457bhc8139401190a3576@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804161538o35a02899rccd55b7e50053db2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <671a617b0804162022n3a5d5833s239b78a4b16f74ce@mail.gmail.com> And here is a draft of the actual CD/DVD. once again in SVGz format. cheers, ryanlerch On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:38 AM, ryan lerch wrote: > > > > 2008/4/17 Paul W. Frields : > > > > > This has continually been painful for every release. Granted, for > > > Fedora 10 the design schedule may work out as an improvement, but what > > > about: > > > > > > * removing the Werewolf from the F8 design for the disc itself, > > > updating > > > any dates or numbers as required > > > * A background-derived cover sleeve, similarly updating names > > > * Adding the URL to the back cover > > > > > > > Okay, done a quick bit of work on a DVD cover... and it is attached to > this email as a SVGz. > I'm not sure about printing etc, so all the blur of the ripples may be too > much. > > Also, the text in the copyright statement is from the FC5 cover, and that > is why is says 2006. > Should this text be the same apart from the year? > > the actual CD / DVD is next on my list to do this morning, so any feedback > about this one is appreciated... > > > cheers, > > ryanlerch > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: F9_DVDlabel.svgz Type: application/octet-stream Size: 140622 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Apr 17 06:18:02 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:18:02 +0300 Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: <671a617b0804161538o35a02899rccd55b7e50053db2@mail.gmail.com> References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> <1208079234.3064.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1208107750.12617.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1208376676.16676.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804161322s74e0457bhc8139401190a3576@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804161538o35a02899rccd55b7e50053db2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4806EB9A.9060908@nicubunu.ro> ryan lerch wrote: > > Okay, done a quick bit of work on a DVD cover... and it is attached to > this email as a SVGz. > I'm not sure about printing etc, so all the blur of the ripples may be > too much. > > Also, the text in the copyright statement is from the FC5 cover, and > that is why is says 2006. > Should this text be the same apart from the year? See here for SVGs from our past releases, an updated copyright statement and a place to upload new designs: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt Also, here are Max's requirements for F9 media art: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-April/msg00255.html > the actual CD / DVD is next on my list to do this morning, so any > feedback about this one is appreciated... -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From sstorari at byte-code.com Thu Apr 17 07:37:16 2008 From: sstorari at byte-code.com (Samuele Storari) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:37:16 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1049868438.4981208417836693.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> I don't see any poster or material for the new release, but I can do something. I will post it on the Wiki ASAP so we can have a base of work. Ciao Samuele ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grady Laksmono" To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com, "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" , fedora-art-list at redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:39:35 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Re: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers Does anybody have some type of posters for Fedora 9? I'd want to get the price quote on that one instead. I'd think that I could produce the fliers using the college's copy machine, which is free!!! :) Thanks, Grady On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Grady Laksmono wrote: > Hi all, > Does anybody have suggestion and/or creative design, and/or ideas for > the Fedora 9 Release Party? I'm trying to request a price quote to the > printing service for the Los Angeles Fedora 9 Release Party, but > they're requesting a specific design to be sent to them so that they > could give me a price quote. I could design it myself, but I'm more a > programmer rather than artists, and so I think that it would be better > if I could get some "real" design from Fedora artists such that Fedora > will appear much more professional for the Los Angeles Fedora 9 > Release Party. > > Sending me some abstract design that I could customized would be > really appreciate it. > > Here's the links for more detailed information: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono/Los_Angeles_Release_Party > http://acm.calstatela.edu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2487 > http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Los_Angeles_Fedora_9_Release_Party > > Thanks, > Grady Laksmono > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono/Los_Angeles_Release_Party > _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list From gradyfausta at laksmono.com Thu Apr 17 07:39:58 2008 From: gradyfausta at laksmono.com (Grady Laksmono) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 00:39:58 -0700 Subject: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers In-Reply-To: <1049868438.4981208417836693.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <1049868438.4981208417836693.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: That would be great Samuele, I've got the fliers and USB design from the other topic in the mailing list. I guess starting out with posters would be great. - Grady On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Samuele Storari wrote: > I don't see any poster or material for the new release, but I can do something. > I will post it on the Wiki ASAP so we can have a base of work. > > Ciao > Samuele > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grady Laksmono" > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com, "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" , fedora-art-list at redhat.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:39:35 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna > Subject: Re: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers > > Does anybody have some type of posters for Fedora 9? I'd want to get > the price quote on that one instead. I'd think that I could produce > the fliers using the college's copy machine, which is free!!! :) > > Thanks, > Grady > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Grady Laksmono > wrote: > > Hi all, > > Does anybody have suggestion and/or creative design, and/or ideas for > > the Fedora 9 Release Party? I'm trying to request a price quote to the > > printing service for the Los Angeles Fedora 9 Release Party, but > > they're requesting a specific design to be sent to them so that they > > could give me a price quote. I could design it myself, but I'm more a > > programmer rather than artists, and so I think that it would be better > > if I could get some "real" design from Fedora artists such that Fedora > > will appear much more professional for the Los Angeles Fedora 9 > > Release Party. > > > > Sending me some abstract design that I could customized would be > > really appreciate it. > > > > Here's the links for more detailed information: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono/Los_Angeles_Release_Party > > http://acm.calstatela.edu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2487 > > http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Los_Angeles_Fedora_9_Release_Party > > > > Thanks, > > Grady Laksmono > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono/Los_Angeles_Release_Party > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > From sstorari at byte-code.com Thu Apr 17 09:07:59 2008 From: sstorari at byte-code.com (Samuele Storari) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:07:59 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1078838855.5371208423279091.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Hi U can find a first layout for the party on your wiki page, i've uploaded here the files cos I really don't know where instead. Let me know ur impression. ;) Samuele ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grady Laksmono" To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers." Cc: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com, "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:39:58 AM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Re: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers That would be great Samuele, I've got the fliers and USB design from the other topic in the mailing list. I guess starting out with posters would be great. - Grady On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Samuele Storari wrote: > I don't see any poster or material for the new release, but I can do something. > I will post it on the Wiki ASAP so we can have a base of work. > > Ciao > Samuele > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grady Laksmono" > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com, "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" , fedora-art-list at redhat.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:39:35 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna > Subject: Re: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers > > Does anybody have some type of posters for Fedora 9? I'd want to get > the price quote on that one instead. I'd think that I could produce > the fliers using the college's copy machine, which is free!!! :) > > Thanks, > Grady > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Grady Laksmono > wrote: > > Hi all, > > Does anybody have suggestion and/or creative design, and/or ideas for > > the Fedora 9 Release Party? I'm trying to request a price quote to the > > printing service for the Los Angeles Fedora 9 Release Party, but > > they're requesting a specific design to be sent to them so that they > > could give me a price quote. I could design it myself, but I'm more a > > programmer rather than artists, and so I think that it would be better > > if I could get some "real" design from Fedora artists such that Fedora > > will appear much more professional for the Los Angeles Fedora 9 > > Release Party. > > > > Sending me some abstract design that I could customized would be > > really appreciate it. > > > > Here's the links for more detailed information: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono/Los_Angeles_Release_Party > > http://acm.calstatela.edu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2487 > > http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Los_Angeles_Fedora_9_Release_Party > > > > Thanks, > > Grady Laksmono > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono/Los_Angeles_Release_Party > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list From stickster at gmail.com Thu Apr 17 15:39:04 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:39:04 -0400 Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: <671a617b0804162022n3a5d5833s239b78a4b16f74ce@mail.gmail.com> References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> <1208079234.3064.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1208107750.12617.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1208376676.16676.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804161322s74e0457bhc8139401190a3576@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804161538o35a02899rccd55b7e50053db2@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804162022n3a5d5833s239b78a4b16f74ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080417153904.GB28822@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 01:22:05PM +1000, ryan lerch wrote: > And here is a draft of the actual CD/DVD. > once again in SVGz format. Ryan, The other requirements are listed on the MediaArt page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stickster at gmail.com Thu Apr 17 15:45:53 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:45:53 -0400 Subject: Getting covers printed Message-ID: <20080417154553.GC28822@localhost.localdomain> Obviously this is my first time through this process from the inside, but here are some of the issues that confront us for getting the discs made, from the Artwork perspective: I talked to Mairin yesterday and she says that getting the artwork/sleeves/discs printed has been a very time-consuming process in the past. Given our very fast-approaching release, let's get some consensus on these questions: * Which art are we going to use for the sleeves? Do we have any possibilities for re-use of any previous design? * Who is responsible for dealing with the printer? What are the mechanics behind doing this? * How can we make this process easier in the future? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gradyfausta at laksmono.com Thu Apr 17 16:07:33 2008 From: gradyfausta at laksmono.com (Grady Laksmono) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:07:33 -0700 Subject: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers In-Reply-To: <1078838855.5371208423279091.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <1078838855.5371208423279091.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: Hi Samuele, That's really nice! What is that blue thing on the top of the sulphur? Thanks, Grady On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Samuele Storari wrote: > Hi > U can find a first layout for the party on your wiki page, i've uploaded here the files cos I really don't know where instead. > Let me know ur impression. ;) > > > Samuele > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grady Laksmono" > > > To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers." > Cc: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com, "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:39:58 AM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna > Subject: Re: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers > > That would be great Samuele, > I've got the fliers and USB design from the other topic in the mailing > list. I guess starting out with posters would be great. > > - Grady > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Samuele Storari > wrote: > > I don't see any poster or material for the new release, but I can do something. > > I will post it on the Wiki ASAP so we can have a base of work. > > > > Ciao > > Samuele > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Grady Laksmono" > > To: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com, "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" , fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:39:35 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna > > Subject: Re: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers > > > > Does anybody have some type of posters for Fedora 9? I'd want to get > > the price quote on that one instead. I'd think that I could produce > > the fliers using the college's copy machine, which is free!!! :) > > > > Thanks, > > Grady > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Grady Laksmono > > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > Does anybody have suggestion and/or creative design, and/or ideas for > > > the Fedora 9 Release Party? I'm trying to request a price quote to the > > > printing service for the Los Angeles Fedora 9 Release Party, but > > > they're requesting a specific design to be sent to them so that they > > > could give me a price quote. I could design it myself, but I'm more a > > > programmer rather than artists, and so I think that it would be better > > > if I could get some "real" design from Fedora artists such that Fedora > > > will appear much more professional for the Los Angeles Fedora 9 > > > Release Party. > > > > > > Sending me some abstract design that I could customized would be > > > really appreciate it. > > > > > > Here's the links for more detailed information: > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono/Los_Angeles_Release_Party > > > http://acm.calstatela.edu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2487 > > > http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Los_Angeles_Fedora_9_Release_Party > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Grady Laksmono > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono/Los_Angeles_Release_Party > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Apr 17 16:15:39 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:15:39 +0300 Subject: Getting covers printed In-Reply-To: <20080417154553.GC28822@localhost.localdomain> References: <20080417154553.GC28822@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <480777AB.8080803@nicubunu.ro> Paul W. Frields wrote: > Obviously this is my first time through this process from the inside, > but here are some of the issues that confront us for getting the discs > made, from the Artwork perspective: > > I talked to Mairin yesterday and she says that getting the > artwork/sleeves/discs printed has been a very time-consuming process > in the past. Given our very fast-approaching release, let's get some > consensus on these questions: I wound in my inbox some specs from the printing shop Red Hat used at the last release: "The layout of die for the graphic designer, is 10x6.5. It is converted to a 5"x5" sleeve, their are glue tabs of .75" on the sides. They should also account for bleed about 1/8" all on ea. side. If they need additional info, let me know, it is only one sided, (of course, inside is just blank). A PDF would be great to send it to us. " > * Which art are we going to use for the sleeves? Do we have any > possibilities for re-use of any previous design? If we keep the tradition, the last incarnation of "Waves" would be used - I tried to play a bit with it but it absolutely blocked my computer (excessive use of blur in Inkscape is very CPU hungry). We can reuse the main template: open the old SVG, release the clip, delete the old background, import the new background, clip it. And of course, update the text. > * Who is responsible for dealing with the printer? What are the > mechanics behind doing this? Printer is the printing shop contracted for the job? (Double Data) If so, last time Max was in direct contact with them. He worked closely with Mairin and my input was limited (I am on the "wrong" timezone and available at odd times). > * How can we make this process easier in the future? I believe the problem is like this: our fancy images are best suited for deskjet printing, for a few number of copies. For large scale printing you may need color separation and other pre-processing. Another problem is, a professional printing shop will expect vector graphics, preferably as PDF (they don't work with SVG). And our images with advanced SVG features do not export well to PDF (some of the features are simply unsupported, some not yet implemented, parts or the graphic are rasterized, losing all the advantages of vector images). But basically the process is simple (as I outlined above, like 5 minutes for upgrading a template to the current graphics), the key is to have a final version of the desktop artwork in due time and that artwork to be suitable for print. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Apr 17 16:19:06 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:19:06 +0300 Subject: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers In-Reply-To: References: <1078838855.5371208423279091.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <4807787A.2090605@nicubunu.ro> Grady Laksmono wrote: > Hi Samuele, > That's really nice! What is that blue thing on the top of the sulphur? That is supposed to be blue fire, it was one concept we pushed during the theme development (we thought it looks cool and is a tie-in with the Fedora blue identity) but it was abandoned recently. > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Samuele Storari wrote: >> Hi >> U can find a first layout for the party on your wiki page, i've uploaded here the files cos I really don't know where instead. >> Let me know ur impression. ;) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From gradyfausta at laksmono.com Thu Apr 17 16:29:05 2008 From: gradyfausta at laksmono.com (Grady Laksmono) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:29:05 -0700 Subject: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers In-Reply-To: <4807787A.2090605@nicubunu.ro> References: <1078838855.5371208423279091.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <4807787A.2090605@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: Oh i see, it's really nice and I like it. I'm going to send this to the printing service and ask for a price quote for this banner :) Thanks all, Grady On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Grady Laksmono wrote: > > > Hi Samuele, > > That's really nice! What is that blue thing on the top of the sulphur? > > > > That is supposed to be blue fire, it was one concept we pushed during the > theme development (we thought it looks cool and is a tie-in with the Fedora > blue identity) but it was abandoned recently. > > > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Samuele Storari > wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > U can find a first layout for the party on your wiki page, i've > uploaded here the files cos I really don't know where instead. > > > Let me know ur impression. ;) > > > > > > > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Apr 17 18:33:08 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:33:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Getting covers printed In-Reply-To: <480777AB.8080803@nicubunu.ro> References: <20080417154553.GC28822@localhost.localdomain> <480777AB.8080803@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: Let me throw in my two cents about the actual mechanics of turning artwork on the wiki into tangible product. Mostly, we want to give people *anywhere in the world* the tools they need to produce CDs and/or sleeves with artwork that has been "blessed" and approved by the Fedora Art team. The process of doing this for North America tends to get noticed the most, simply because we usually make thousands of disks, and I've been the guy who's done it the last few times. Let's look at the provider history in North America: Fedora Core 5 -- Brand Fuel, the people who make all our other swag. The disks looked good, but cost about double what the general market charged. So we stopped using them for media. Fedora Core 6 -- SF Video, a company that is based out of San Francisco that Jack made contact with at LinuxWorld a few years ago. They did a good job, but it took a bit longer than we had hoped, mostly due to distance issues. Fedora 7 -- Double Data, a local company here in Raleigh. Color matching issues, everyone was disappointed, but they vowed to "get it right" if we gave them another chance. Also part of the problem here was that the artist who did the Fedora 7 theme left without making the CD art, and everything was thrown together in a panic at the last minute. So best to just forget about this release. Fedora 8 -- We gave DD another chance, and they worked really hard to get the color matching right. I think that everyone who saw the end products of Fedora 8 agreed that the sleeves and disks all looked great. However, there was a *ton* of back and forth between their production folks and Mo, and it was a pretty frustrating experience for her, I imagine. The end result, however, was excellent, I haven't heard a single complaint about the final product of Fedora 8. Fedora 9 -- I was inclined to give our business to Double Data once again, because they *kept* all of the work that they did for color matching in the F8 period, and I think that the process this time ought to go more smoothly. Regrettably, there's going to be some back and forth between *any* production company and the Fedora Art Team, but I want to make Mo's life as easy as possible. So I look to you all for guidance.... I'm here to try to take your artwork and turn it into a physical media that can be distributed all over the world, not to make your lives more difficult I love the Fedora Art Team, you all know that. ;) --Max From sstorari at byte-code.com Thu Apr 17 19:23:24 2008 From: sstorari at byte-code.com (Samuele Storari) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:23:24 +0200 (CEST) Subject: R: Re: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers In-Reply-To: <2144847409.6871208460099703.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <360333933.6891208460204587.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Oh... sorry I dunno the fire was lived apart. May I could modify it tomorrow, or u can use it in this way. Let me know ur purpose. :) Ciao Samuele ----- Messaggio originale ----- Da: "Grady Laksmono" A: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers." Cc: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com, "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" Inviato: Gioved?, 17 aprile 2008 18:29:05 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam/Berlino/Berna/Roma/Stoccolma/Vienna Oggetto: Re: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers Oh i see, it's really nice and I like it. I'm going to send this to the printing service and ask for a price quote for this banner :) Thanks all, Grady On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Grady Laksmono wrote: > > > Hi Samuele, > > That's really nice! What is that blue thing on the top of the sulphur? > > > > That is supposed to be blue fire, it was one concept we pushed during the > theme development (we thought it looks cool and is a tie-in with the Fedora > blue identity) but it was abandoned recently. > > > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Samuele Storari > wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > U can find a first layout for the party on your wiki page, i've > uploaded here the files cos I really don't know where instead. > > > Let me know ur impression. ;) > > > > > > > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com From gradyfausta at laksmono.com Thu Apr 17 20:17:42 2008 From: gradyfausta at laksmono.com (Grady Laksmono) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:17:42 -0700 Subject: R: Re: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers In-Reply-To: <360333933.6891208460204587.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <2144847409.6871208460099703.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <360333933.6891208460204587.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: Hi Samuele, I'm going to use it for the Los Angeles Fedora 9 Release Party: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono/Los_Angeles_Release_Party Thanks, Grady http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GradyLaksmono On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Samuele Storari wrote: > Oh... sorry I dunno the fire was lived apart. > May I could modify it tomorrow, or u can use it in this way. Let me know ur purpose. :) > > Ciao > Samuele > ----- Messaggio originale ----- > Da: "Grady Laksmono" > A: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers." > Cc: fedora-ambassadors-list at redhat.com, "For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base" > Inviato: Gioved?, 17 aprile 2008 18:29:05 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam/Berlino/Berna/Roma/Stoccolma/Vienna > Oggetto: Re: Fedora 9 Release Party Poster and Fliers > > Oh i see, it's really nice and I like it. I'm going to send this to > the printing service and ask for a price quote for this banner :) > > Thanks all, > Grady > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > Grady Laksmono wrote: > > > > > Hi Samuele, > > > That's really nice! What is that blue thing on the top of the sulphur? > > > > > > > That is supposed to be blue fire, it was one concept we pushed during the > > theme development (we thought it looks cool and is a tie-in with the Fedora > > blue identity) but it was abandoned recently. > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Samuele Storari > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi > > > > U can find a first layout for the party on your wiki page, i've > > uploaded here the files cos I really don't know where instead. > > > > Let me know ur impression. ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -- > Samuele Storari > Art Director > Byte-Code srl > mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 > office: +39 02 9840047 > http://www.byte-code.com > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > From ryanlerch at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 01:39:19 2008 From: ryanlerch at gmail.com (ryan lerch) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:39:19 +1000 Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: <20080417153904.GB28822@localhost.localdomain> References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> <1208079234.3064.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1208107750.12617.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1208376676.16676.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804161322s74e0457bhc8139401190a3576@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804161538o35a02899rccd55b7e50053db2@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804162022n3a5d5833s239b78a4b16f74ce@mail.gmail.com> <20080417153904.GB28822@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <671a617b0804171839y7561de46x7c07a7b6bf9e771f@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/18 Paul W. Frields : > > The other requirements are listed on the MediaArt page: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt > I have taken on board the requirements and produced a set that i have uploaded as an attachment to the wiki: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt?action=AttachFile they are combined in an archive because the page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9 was producing an error when trying to view it. any suggestions on the designs? I'm not sure where to go from here... cheers, ryanlerch -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stickster at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 02:06:11 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:06:11 -0400 Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: <671a617b0804171839y7561de46x7c07a7b6bf9e771f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> <1208079234.3064.22.camel@pc-notebook> <1208107750.12617.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1208376676.16676.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804161322s74e0457bhc8139401190a3576@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804161538o35a02899rccd55b7e50053db2@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804162022n3a5d5833s239b78a4b16f74ce@mail.gmail.com> <20080417153904.GB28822@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171839y7561de46x7c07a7b6bf9e771f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080418020611.GB26630@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:39:19AM +1000, ryan lerch wrote: > 2008/4/18 Paul W. Frields : > > > > > The other requirements are listed on the MediaArt page: > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt > > > > I have taken on board the requirements and produced a set that i have > uploaded as an attachment to the wiki: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt?action=AttachFile > > they are combined in an archive because the page > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9 was producing an error > when trying to view it. > > any suggestions on the designs? I'm not sure where to go from here... These look pretty darn good! ...with one teensy-tiny exception: The "TM" probably needs to be outside the Fedora logo bubble, because generally it's the unadulterated appearance of the logo that is, itself, trademarked. I realize that you did it for a nice neat appearance of the glow, and appreciate the sentiment, though! :-) -- Paul W. 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I'm not sure where to go from here... > > These look pretty darn good! ...with one teensy-tiny exception: > > The "TM" probably needs to be outside the Fedora logo bubble, because > generally it's the unadulterated appearance of the logo that is, > itself, trademarked. I realize that you did it for a nice neat > appearance of the glow, and appreciate the sentiment, though! :-) I agree with Paul that these look great! Here's the suggestion that I would have: Somewhere on the CD sleeve, and the CD itself, we state: "Live CD for x86 systems" Thanks for your work! --Max From stickster at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 02:34:57 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:34:57 -0400 Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: References: <1208107750.12617.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1208376676.16676.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804161322s74e0457bhc8139401190a3576@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804161538o35a02899rccd55b7e50053db2@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804162022n3a5d5833s239b78a4b16f74ce@mail.gmail.com> <20080417153904.GB28822@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171839y7561de46x7c07a7b6bf9e771f@mail.gmail.com> <20080418020611.GB26630@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20080418023457.GD26630@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:30:33PM -0400, Max Spevack wrote: > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >>> any suggestions on the designs? I'm not sure where to go from here... >> >> These look pretty darn good! ...with one teensy-tiny exception: >> >> The "TM" probably needs to be outside the Fedora logo bubble, because >> generally it's the unadulterated appearance of the logo that is, itself, >> trademarked. I realize that you did it for a nice neat appearance of the >> glow, and appreciate the sentiment, though! :-) > > I agree with Paul that these look great! > > Here's the suggestion that I would have: > > Somewhere on the CD sleeve, and the CD itself, we state: > > "Live CD for x86 systems" > > Thanks for your work! Good catch. Are we going to need other labels as well? For DVD, 64-bit? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Frields wrote: > > The "TM" probably needs to be outside the Fedora logo bubble, because > > generally it's the unadulterated appearance of the logo that is, itself, > > trademarked. I realize that you did it for a nice neat appearance of the > > glow, and appreciate the sentiment, though! :-) > > I will fix that up on my next revision of the covers. On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Max Spevack wrote: > I agree with Paul that these look great! > > Here's the suggestion that I would have: > > Somewhere on the CD sleeve, and the CD itself, we state: > > "Live CD for x86 systems" How many variations of the CD / DVD are there going to be? x86 Live, Normal Installable DVD... ? cheers, ryanlerch -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 09:31:17 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:31:17 +0200 Subject: Nodoka Notification Theme In-Reply-To: <1208118298.3691.13.camel@pc-notebook> References: <6e24a8e80804021210i65acb622xb70171d855216efd@mail.gmail.com> <47F41E4B.7010208@prodigy.net.mx> <6e24a8e80804030347i62b9797dve969c840c32d4bf3@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804030754j18448c58neec699d529676460@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804031108q17397857v2870dd3a4d5f89@mail.gmail.com> <1207313391.4468.37.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040633h4937e095nb7682fecc8894828@mail.gmail.com> <1207319269.4468.59.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80804040900p6fd1fca1m24f7806ee6b50d37@mail.gmail.com> <1208118298.3691.13.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1208511077.3012.16.camel@pc-notebook> Hi all, I've put together some working code of the nodoka notification theme. Here's a first screen shot of it in action: http://mso.fedorapeople.org/nodoka/notify/preview/notify-new.png The code is available at git: http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=nodoka;a=tree;f=notification-daemon-engine-nodoka;hb=HEAD To install and start using it I'll start publishing i386 rpms some time in the future, until then you need to do the following: git clone git://git.fedorahosted.org/nodoka cd nodoka/notification-daemon-engine-nodoka ./autogen.sh ./configure --prefix=/usr make su make install exit Then you'll need to set gconf key /apps/notification-daemon/theme to nodoka. You can use for example gconf-editor to do that. Probably you'll need to restart the daemon (killall -9 notification-daemon), but maybe it's not necessary. What is missing? * countdown timer; if present, grey rectangle shows instead * arrow; if present the window is just bigger and positioned in top-left corner... If you happen to find another feature that's missing feel free to let me know about it (screen shot and steps how to make that feature used would help a lot). Please note that I am currently aiming at 0.1.0 release which is supposed to just work (and therefore need to support all the features notification-daemon supports) - design will be refined at 0.2.0, but I accept suggestions on that as well :) Comments welcome, Martin PS: I hope to get this into F10 as default notification theme, so once I release 0.1.0 I'll get it to rawhide and ask for opinions and testing on fedoraforum as well :) From sstorari at byte-code.com Fri Apr 18 13:37:10 2008 From: sstorari at byte-code.com (Samuele Storari) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:37:10 +0200 (CEST) Subject: LiveUsbCreator Totem In-Reply-To: <459450748.8811208525614116.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <1999968885.8861208525830490.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Hi all! Some days ago I've produced a totem for the LiveUsbCreator but it was for the release 8, now I produce something for the release 9. Have a look and give me a feedback, that's the link where u can find all the materials: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/LiveUsbCreator Ciao Samuele -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com From stlwrt at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 13:44:29 2008 From: stlwrt at gmail.com (Pavel Shevchuk) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:44:29 +0300 Subject: LiveUsbCreator Totem In-Reply-To: <1999968885.8861208525830490.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <459450748.8811208525614116.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <1999968885.8861208525830490.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: Very nice, but sulphur crystals are obsolete. You could remove them and move "fedora 9" to place bottom of "9" in the center of ripples. That would look cool imo On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Samuele Storari wrote: > Hi all! > > Some days ago I've produced a totem for the LiveUsbCreator but it was for the release 8, now I produce something for the release 9. > Have a look and give me a feedback, that's the link where u can find all the materials: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/LiveUsbCreator > > Ciao > Samuele > > -- > Samuele Storari > Art Director > Byte-Code srl > mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 > office: +39 02 9840047 > http://www.byte-code.com > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- http://scwlab.com From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Apr 18 14:17:32 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:17:32 +0300 Subject: LiveUsbCreator Totem In-Reply-To: References: <459450748.8811208525614116.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <1999968885.8861208525830490.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <4808AD7C.6090908@nicubunu.ro> Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > Very nice, but sulphur crystals are obsolete. You could remove them > and move "fedora 9" to place bottom of "9" in the center of ripples. > That would look cool imo I quite like the version *with* crystals... (and we have not removed those completely, they still can be found in some places, like the release website banner/counter). > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Samuele Storari wrote: >> Hi all! >> >> Some days ago I've produced a totem for the LiveUsbCreator but it was for the release 8, now I produce something for the release 9. >> Have a look and give me a feedback, that's the link where u can find all the materials: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/LiveUsbCreator -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Apr 18 14:53:25 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:53:25 +0300 Subject: [Echo Icons] ToDo transferred to hosted, need to prioritize; call for help In-Reply-To: <1207916248.3044.26.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1207916248.3044.26.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <4808B5E5.7060206@nicubunu.ro> Martin Sourada wrote: > Hi, > > I've recently finished updating and transferring the ToDo/Menus [1] list > to fedorahosted [2]. My plans are that we decide on priorities [3] for > the icons and those with highest priority would be blocker for next > major release (0.4). > > Why I am writing this here is mostly because of these reasons: > 1. To keep you informed what's happening > 2. To gather comments/suggestions concerning the new page > 3. So that you can help with decision about the priorities > > And now to the next what I have in mind. We'd like to target the Echo > icons for the F10 release, but there is still a lot of work to be done, > and currently there are only two people (me and Luya) actively working > on them which is too little. With recent growth of the art team I though > there might be people interested with helping, or might know about such > people. Indeed, he have a promising number of new contributors, are you guys interested in icon development? It is a good opportunity for learning... And it seems like a good opportunity for Echo, the team has matured enough, he should know already how to handle the regular tasks and Echo is already work in progress for quite some time (2 years?), maybe *now* is the time to take a hard decision: use it or kill it. > How you can help? > > 1. You can help with the managing stuff > * Work on various wiki pages > * Help with deciding schedules, tasks, policies, etc. > > 2. You can provide feedback > * Do you know of an icon that is violating guidelines [4]? > * Do you know of an icon that looks out of the way compared to others? > * Do you think there is an information gap somewhere? > If you answer yes to any of these questions feel free to share those > concerns with us either here, on the art-list, or in echo's ticket > system [5]. > > 3. You can help with icon creation. > * Look at the ToDo lists [6] to see what needs to be done > * Get familiar with the guidelines [4] > * Submit your work on the art list for acceptance > > Thanks for your comments, > Martin > > References: > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoIconTheme/EchoToDo/Menus > [2] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/ToDo/GnomeMenus > [3] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/ticket/16 > [4] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines > [5] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/newticket > [6] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/ToDo -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From sdimitrovski at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 15:31:21 2008 From: sdimitrovski at gmail.com (Stojan Dimitrovski) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:31:21 +0200 Subject: Joining the Fedora Artwork Team Message-ID: <1208532681.18135.13.camel@act1v8> Hello, I'm Stojan Dimitrovski, a more and more interested Deseginer and experienced Fedora user. Since I've heard about Fedora, I was thrilled to use it. And I use it pretty much always as my default operating system. But there is another thing, I like to draw; especially in Inkscape. In time I found myself revealing a drawing "talent" (even though it's not for me to decide, but other people have said it). I've been using Fedora since Fedora Core 5, and I've always been amazed by the artwork. The perfect bubbles of Fedora Core 5, the DNA theme of Fedora Core 6, or the 'Flying High' baloons and clouds in 7 were just amazing. Even then I've felt like I needed to be a part of this. To have a contribution to Fedora, with something seemingly so unessential but very crucial. That's why, I'd like to join You, and help you make a more beautiful Operating System as much as I can. I'm a student at High School in Macedonia. I usually like drawing abstract things, icons... w/e I get an inspiration for. As this Page says it: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork#Join I did make an icon for the system-config-* request. It's still a draft, and I know I had a CLA signed somewhere, but I can't find it. I also had a Fedora Account, but I forgot it. :) So can someone help me get up to speed with the Fedora Account system? Sincerely, Stojan Dimitrovski -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Wizzard Icon.svg Type: image/svg+xml Size: 21823 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Apr 18 16:07:36 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:07:36 +0300 Subject: Joining the Fedora Artwork Team In-Reply-To: <1208532681.18135.13.camel@act1v8> References: <1208532681.18135.13.camel@act1v8> Message-ID: <4808C748.9030702@nicubunu.ro> Stojan Dimitrovski wrote: > Hello, > > I'm Stojan Dimitrovski, a more and more interested Deseginer and > experienced Fedora user. Hi and welcome! > I'm a student at High School in Macedonia. I usually like drawing > abstract things, icons... w/e I get an inspiration for. Neat! Do you know we have an ongoing task, development of the Echo icon set? It may be what are you looking for, take a look at this recent mail from the list archive: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-April/msg00278.html > As this Page says it: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork#Join I did > make an icon for the system-config-* request. It's still a draft, and I > know I had a CLA signed somewhere, but I can't find it. I also had a > Fedora Account, but I forgot it. :) So can someone help me get up to > speed with the Fedora Account system? Sorry, but I don't think I can help you if you don't remember the username for FAS. I guess you have two options: ask an admin or sign the CLA once more. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Fri Apr 18 16:18:57 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:18:57 +0200 Subject: LiveUsbCreator Totem In-Reply-To: <4808AD7C.6090908@nicubunu.ro> References: <459450748.8811208525614116.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <4808AD7C.6090908@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <200804181818.57442.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Freitag, 18. April 2008 16:17:32 schrieb Nicu Buculei: > Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > > Very nice, but sulphur crystals are obsolete. You could remove them > > and move "fedora 9" to place bottom of "9" in the center of ripples. > > That would look cool imo > > I quite like the version *with* crystals... +1 -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 17:41:52 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:41:52 +0200 Subject: Joining the Fedora Artwork Team In-Reply-To: <4808C748.9030702@nicubunu.ro> References: <1208532681.18135.13.camel@act1v8> <4808C748.9030702@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1208540512.3012.21.camel@pc-notebook> On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 19:07 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > As this Page says it: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork#Join I did > > make an icon for the system-config-* request. It's still a draft, and I > > know I had a CLA signed somewhere, but I can't find it. I also had a > > Fedora Account, but I forgot it. :) So can someone help me get up to > > speed with the Fedora Account system? > > Sorry, but I don't think I can help you if you don't remember the > username for FAS. I guess you have two options: ask an admin or sign the > CLA once more. > I did some search on the FAS system, and I probably found your (Stojan's) account: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/view/stojance Martin From sdimitrovski at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 17:47:50 2008 From: sdimitrovski at gmail.com (Stojan Dimitrovski) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:47:50 +0200 Subject: Joining the Fedora Artwork Team In-Reply-To: <1208540512.3012.21.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1208532681.18135.13.camel@act1v8> <4808C748.9030702@nicubunu.ro> <1208540512.3012.21.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1208540870.27214.1.camel@act1v8> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/view/stojance > > Martin I found it too, and I updated everything. I also asked to join the art team, so someone should do some action. Stojan -- Stojan Dimitrovski Web: http://stojance.lugola.net/ GTalk: sdimitrovski at gmail.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/Act1v8 DeviantART: http://act1v8.deviantart.com/ From luya at fedoraproject.org Fri Apr 18 19:55:44 2008 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:55:44 -0700 Subject: [Echo Icons] ToDo transferred to hosted, need to prioritize; call for help In-Reply-To: <4808B5E5.7060206@nicubunu.ro> References: <1207916248.3044.26.camel@pc-notebook> <4808B5E5.7060206@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <4808FCC0.4050702@fedoraproject.org> Nicu Buculei a ?crit : > > Indeed, he have a promising number of new contributors, are you guys > interested in icon development? It is a good opportunity for learning... > > And it seems like a good opportunity for Echo, the team has matured > enough, he should know already how to handle the regular tasks and > Echo is already work in progress for quite some time (2 years?), maybe > *now* is the time to take a hard decision: use it or kill it. Should you be interested, drop me email so I can add you on econ icons development list for the git repository. Luya From mspevack at redhat.com Fri Apr 18 21:22:05 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:22:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: <671a617b0804171943g1ef86bf4rd97f0f923f1b1041@mail.gmail.com> References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> <1208376676.16676.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804161322s74e0457bhc8139401190a3576@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804161538o35a02899rccd55b7e50053db2@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804162022n3a5d5833s239b78a4b16f74ce@mail.gmail.com> <20080417153904.GB28822@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171839y7561de46x7c07a7b6bf9e771f@mail.gmail.com> <20080418020611.GB26630@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171943g1ef86bf4rd97f0f923f1b1041@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > How many variations of the CD / DVD are there going to be? For sure: x86 Live CD x86 DVD Someone might want to produce: x86_64 Live CD x86_64 DVD Doubtful they'll be used, but probably trivial to create art for: ppc Live CD ppc DVD --Max From martin.sourada at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 18:53:01 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:53:01 +0200 Subject: Current Echo ToDo In-Reply-To: <1207916248.3044.26.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1207916248.3044.26.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1208631181.3012.78.camel@pc-notebook> I've just finished prioritizing the Icons in the To Do list for Gnome Menus [1]. It gives us about 50 icons that need to be created/edited before 0.4 release. Here's an list of them with short commentary: * accessories-archive-manager - official icon is blurry, probably need to think about better metaphor * accessories-text-editor - need to ?fix SVG and add missing sizes * audio-input-microphone - need to ?fix SVG, add missing sizes, add gnome-grecord symlink * battery-* - need to ?fix SVGs, add missing sizes, add symlink gnome-power-manager -> battery-charged * computer - need to ?fix SVG, add missing sizes * dialog-password - need to ?fix SVG, add missing sizes * drive-harddisk - need to ?fix SVG, add missing sizes * drive-optical - need to ?fix SVG, add missing sizes * graphics-image-viewer - need brand new icon * input-keyboard - need to correct the symlinks to input-keyboard and preferences-destkop-keyboard, need to create missing sizes, perhaps some improvement to SVG * input-mouse - need to ?fix SVG, add missing sizes * media-optical-{cd,dvd} - need to ?fix SVG, add missing sizes * multimedia-movie-player - need brand new icon * multimedia-music-player - need brand new icon * network-* - need to correct SVG, add missing sizes, possible to base of preferences-system-network * office-mail-calendar - need brand new icon, or can we use only office-mail? * office-spreadsheet - need brand new icon * office-word-processor - need brand new icon * preferences-desktop-accessibility - need to fix SVG, add missing sizes * preferences-desktop-applications (gnome-settings-default-applications) - need brand new icon * preferences-desktop-bluetooth - need to add symlink, shadow and sizes * preferences-desktop-effects - need brand new icon * preferences-desktop-input - need brand new icon * preferences-desktop-locale - need brand new icon * preferences-desktop-screensaver - need to fix SVG, add missing sizes * preferences-destkop-menu - need brand new icon * preferences-dictionary-editor - need brand new icon * preferences-system-authentication - need brand new icon * preferences-system-bootloader - need brand new icon * preferences-system-date - need brand new icon * preferences-system-firewall - need brand new icon, consider wall on fire for metaphor * preferences-system-security - need brand new icon * preferences-system-users - need brand new icon * preferences-volumes-logical - need brand new icon * printer - need to fix SVG, add missing sizes * security-high - need brand new icon * software-update-available - need to fix guidelines violation, add missing sizes * system-file-manager - need brand new icon * system-lock-screen - need to fix SVG, add missing sizes * system-log-out - need to fix SVG, add missing sizes * system-network-control - need brand new icon, consider using preferences-system-network * system-search - need to fix SVG, add missing sizes * system-software-update - need to fix guidelines violation, add missing sizes * utilities-disk-manager - need brand new icon * utilities-logviewer - need brand new icon * utilities-security-troubleshoot - need brand new icon * video-display - need brand new icon, possible to use monitor from preferences-system-network Should you be interested in creating/fixing any of the above mentioned icons add your name and the icon name to our progress tracking page [2], if you don't have wiki edit rights there, ask me or Luya to do it for you. Here are some tips for the creating: 1. get to know the guidelines [3] 2. if possible use same/similar metaphors that are already used in other icon themes, especially gnome and tango [4] 3. try not to use blur in inkscape, save for shadow. First the rendering is slow, second the rendering by native gnome libraries is buggy 4. when you are creating 22x22 and 24x24 icons, use 22x22 for the 24x24 as well, just add a 1px wide transparent border. Saves a lot of work. 5. Check how the icons looks in 1:1 zoom, to see whether it sharp. In order to be sharp it needs to fit into pixel grid. Inkscape has a helpful feature called "Icon Preview" located in the View menu which helps to see the problematic places. Once the icon is created post it here on the art list for consideration. If it is accepted by me and Luya that means it is ready to be uploaded to git, otherwise we usually add comments about what needs to be improved. Thanks, Martin References: [1] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/ToDo/GnomeMenus [2] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/ToDo/InProgress [3] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines [4] http://people.freedesktop.org/~jimmac/icons/ From martin.sourada at gmail.com Sun Apr 20 20:05:21 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:05:21 +0200 Subject: Nodoka notification theme 0.1.0 available Message-ID: <1208721921.3424.6.camel@pc-notebook> Hi, today I've released first public release of the notification theme. Since package review [1] takes some time (if you are interested in reviewing, you are welcome to review the package) I've prepared i386 F9 package [2] (which would probably work on F8 as well, but I didn't tested it). You can look at the details (with screen shots) at wiki [3]. Installation instructions are also there :) Happy testing, Martin References: [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=443303 [2] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/packages/SRPMS/notification-daemon-engine-nodoka-0.1.0-1.fc9.src.rpm [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/NodokaTheme/NotificationTheme -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You can use for example gconf-editor to do that. Probably you'll > need to restart the daemon (killall -9 notification-daemon), but maybe > it's not necessary. > > What is missing? > * countdown timer; if present, grey rectangle shows instead > * arrow; if present the window is just bigger and positioned in > top-left corner... > > If you happen to find another feature that's missing feel free to let me > know about it (screen shot and steps how to make that feature used would > help a lot). > > Please note that I am currently aiming at 0.1.0 release which is > supposed to just work (and therefore need to support all the features > notification-daemon supports) - design will be refined at 0.2.0, but I > accept suggestions on that as well :) > > Comments welcome, > Martin > > PS: I hope to get this into F10 as default notification theme, so once I > release 0.1.0 I'll get it to rawhide and ask for opinions and testing on > fedoraforum as well :) > looks good so far! i hope you can get it in Fedora 10. From glaksmono at fedoraproject.org Sun Apr 20 21:32:55 2008 From: glaksmono at fedoraproject.org (Grady Laksmono) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:32:55 -0700 Subject: How do you edit .SVG? Message-ID: Hi all~ I'm not an artists, just wondering on what software do you use to edit .SVG files..? I tried using GIMPP, but it imports it and doesn't give the appropriate layers.. :-/ Thanks, Grady From sdimitrovski at gmail.com Sun Apr 20 21:36:35 2008 From: sdimitrovski at gmail.com (Stojan Dimitrovski) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:36:35 +0200 Subject: How do you edit .SVG? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can edit SVG files with Inkscape (http://inkscape.org/). On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Grady Laksmono < glaksmono at fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Hi all~ > I'm not an artists, just wondering on what software do you use to edit > .SVG files..? I tried using GIMPP, but it imports it and doesn't give > the appropriate layers.. :-/ > > Thanks, > Grady > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.sourada at gmail.com Sun Apr 20 21:35:52 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:35:52 +0200 Subject: How do you edit .SVG? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1208727352.3424.10.camel@pc-notebook> On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 14:32 -0700, Grady Laksmono wrote: > Hi all~ > I'm not an artists, just wondering on what software do you use to edit > .SVG files..? I tried using GIMPP, but it imports it and doesn't give > the appropriate layers.. :-/ > > Thanks, > Grady > Inkscape is the tool of choice ;-) Pretty straightforward to use. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From glaksmono at fedoraproject.org Sun Apr 20 21:38:01 2008 From: glaksmono at fedoraproject.org (Grady Laksmono) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:38:01 -0700 Subject: How do you edit .SVG? In-Reply-To: <1208727352.3424.10.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1208727352.3424.10.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: Thanks all :) - Grady 2008/4/20 Martin Sourada : > > On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 14:32 -0700, Grady Laksmono wrote: > > Hi all~ > > I'm not an artists, just wondering on what software do you use to edit > > .SVG files..? I tried using GIMPP, but it imports it and doesn't give > > the appropriate layers.. :-/ > > > > Thanks, > > Grady > > > Inkscape is the tool of choice ;-) Pretty straightforward to use. > > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > From ryanlerch at gmail.com Sun Apr 20 22:14:12 2008 From: ryanlerch at gmail.com (ryan lerch) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 08:14:12 +1000 Subject: How do you edit .SVG? In-Reply-To: References: <1208727352.3424.10.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <671a617b0804201514x4d4114f2gc7fefc614019d924@mail.gmail.com> When getting started with inkscape, make sure you check out the tutorials that come bundled with it (available in the help menu...) Other inkscape great resources are: tav's inkscape book: http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/index.php the inkscape quick guide my microugly http://www.microugly.com/inkscape-quickguide/ the art team's own, nicu and his howto section: http://howto.nicubunu.ro/ i also run a blog that tries to post all the great inkscape tutorials from all over: http://inkscapetutorials.wordpress.com/ hope this helps, ryanlerch On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Grady Laksmono wrote: > Thanks all :) > > - Grady > > 2008/4/20 Martin Sourada : > > > > On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 14:32 -0700, Grady Laksmono wrote: > > > Hi all~ > > > I'm not an artists, just wondering on what software do you use to > edit > > > .SVG files..? I tried using GIMPP, but it imports it and doesn't give > > > the appropriate layers.. :-/ > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Grady > > > > > Inkscape is the tool of choice ;-) Pretty straightforward to use. > > > > Martin > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From duffy at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 21 13:39:43 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:39:43 -0400 Subject: LiveUsbCreator Totem In-Reply-To: <1999968885.8861208525830490.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <1999968885.8861208525830490.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <480C991F.8050505@fedoraproject.org> Samuele Storari wrote: > Hi all! > > Some days ago I've produced a totem for the LiveUsbCreator but it was for the release 8, now I produce something for the release 9. > Have a look and give me a feedback, that's the link where u can find all the materials: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/LiveUsbCreator I think I may have made this comment on the last one you did, but what font is that? Generally we use MgOpen Modata (free and open source font) or URW Gothic (free and open source font) rather than random fonts, you know? It gives our materials a more consistent look and feel plus it makes use of free and open source fonts that are in accordance with the principles of Fedora. Would you be willing to change the font to one of the recommended ones? ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Apr 21 14:02:24 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:02:24 +0300 Subject: LiveUsbCreator Totem In-Reply-To: <480C991F.8050505@fedoraproject.org> References: <1999968885.8861208525830490.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <480C991F.8050505@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <480C9E70.1070708@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Generally we use MgOpen Modata (free and open source font) or URW Gothic > (free and open source font) rather than random fonts, you know? It gives > our materials a more consistent look and feel plus it makes use of free > and open source fonts that are in accordance with the principles of Fedora. Mo, as you are our authority on logo usage, how about amending the guidelines so we mention MgOpen Modata (probably its bold version) along with U001 as a complementary font? [1] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From duffy at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 21 14:19:37 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:19:37 -0400 Subject: LiveUsbCreator Totem In-Reply-To: <480C9E70.1070708@nicubunu.ro> References: <1999968885.8861208525830490.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <480C991F.8050505@fedoraproject.org> <480C9E70.1070708@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <480CA279.2060308@fedoraproject.org> Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> >> Generally we use MgOpen Modata (free and open source font) or URW >> Gothic (free and open source font) rather than random fonts, you know? >> It gives our materials a more consistent look and feel plus it makes >> use of free and open source fonts that are in accordance with the >> principles of Fedora. > > Mo, as you are our authority on logo usage, how about amending the > guidelines so we mention MgOpen Modata (probably its bold version) along > with U001 as a complementary font? Good idea! I'll do that LOL, it seems like we've mostly been following this anyway. ~m From sstorari at byte-code.com Mon Apr 21 14:37:44 2008 From: sstorari at byte-code.com (Samuele Storari) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:37:44 +0200 (CEST) Subject: R: Re: LiveUsbCreator Totem In-Reply-To: <480CA279.2060308@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <436099522.261208788664634.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Sorry for the misunderstanding on the font. I'd use it cos i was nice, nothing in special, I'm new in this "world" specially for the open source world, I will correct it ASAP. But for the last one, someone (I really don't remember :D who) told me that I can use this font but I'd have to convert it. For the next I'll keep in my mind that point. Sorry again :D Samuele ----- Messaggio originale ----- Da: "M?ir?n Duffy" A: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers." Inviato: Luned?, 21 aprile 2008 16:19:37 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam/Berlino/Berna/Roma/Stoccolma/Vienna Oggetto: Re: LiveUsbCreator Totem Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> >> Generally we use MgOpen Modata (free and open source font) or URW >> Gothic (free and open source font) rather than random fonts, you know? >> It gives our materials a more consistent look and feel plus it makes >> use of free and open source fonts that are in accordance with the >> principles of Fedora. > > Mo, as you are our authority on logo usage, how about amending the > guidelines so we mention MgOpen Modata (probably its bold version) along > with U001 as a complementary font? Good idea! I'll do that LOL, it seems like we've mostly been following this anyway. ~m _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Apr 21 15:03:39 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:03:39 +0300 Subject: R: Re: LiveUsbCreator Totem In-Reply-To: <436099522.261208788664634.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <436099522.261208788664634.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <480CACCB.6040505@nicubunu.ro> Samuele Storari wrote: > Sorry for the misunderstanding on the font. > I'd use it cos i was nice, nothing in special, I'm new in this "world" specially for the open source world, I will correct it ASAP. > But for the last one, someone (I really don't remember :D who) told me that I can use this font but I'd have to convert it. Yes, I was that someone. Using non-Free fonts is not prohibited, but we *strongly* encourage the use of Free fonts. And the reason is simple: with free fonts is easy for anyone to build upon your work, create variations, translations and so on. > For the next I'll keep in my mind that point. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From duffy at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 21 15:06:33 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:06:33 -0400 Subject: R: Re: LiveUsbCreator Totem In-Reply-To: <436099522.261208788664634.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <436099522.261208788664634.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <480CAD79.7000107@fedoraproject.org> Samuele Storari wrote: > Sorry for the misunderstanding on the font. > I'd use it cos i was nice, nothing in special, I'm new in this "world" specially for the open source world, I will correct it ASAP. > But for the last one, someone (I really don't remember :D who) told me that I can use this font but I'd have to convert it. > For the next I'll keep in my mind that point. Nicu said it would be more 'legal' to convert the font to outlines since you are not allowed legally to distribute a closed source font. However, it's better to go with free and open source fonts anyway. :) ~m From duffy at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 21 15:18:33 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:18:33 -0400 Subject: Fedora Logo Usage Guidelines: complementary font Message-ID: <480CB049.80104@fedoraproject.org> Hi folks, I updated the section of the Logo Usage Guidelines that talks about complementary fonts. I replaced URW 001 with MgOpen Modata: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#head-991436ccf5fa3666a5c6c8da32e67ec05133328a We've already started using MgOpen Modata in our materials anyway but I wanted to make it more official. ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Apr 21 15:31:17 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:31:17 +0300 Subject: R: Re: LiveUsbCreator Totem In-Reply-To: <480CAD79.7000107@fedoraproject.org> References: <436099522.261208788664634.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <480CAD79.7000107@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <480CB345.6080606@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Nicu said it would be more 'legal' to convert the font to outlines since > you are not allowed legally to distribute a closed source font. However, > it's better to go with free and open source fonts anyway. :) It is not about legality: a Free document using proprietary fonts is not a derivative of the fonts, it remains Free. The problem is a practical one: if someone want to modify the document will need to have installed the proprietary fonts (which he may not want to), otherwise the application will replace it automatically with another font, resulting in something that will not look as intended. So converting the text to path will keep the look, sacrificing text editability (something a fair trade-off). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From duffy at fedoraproject.org Mon Apr 21 15:41:51 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:41:51 -0400 Subject: R: Re: LiveUsbCreator Totem In-Reply-To: <480CB345.6080606@nicubunu.ro> References: <436099522.261208788664634.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <480CAD79.7000107@fedoraproject.org> <480CB345.6080606@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <480CB5BF.2080109@fedoraproject.org> Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> >> Nicu said it would be more 'legal' to convert the font to outlines >> since you are not allowed legally to distribute a closed source font. >> However, it's better to go with free and open source fonts anyway. :) > > It is not about legality: a Free document using proprietary fonts is not > a derivative of the fonts, it remains Free. Oh I wasn't referring to the license of the document, I was referring to having the actual font available for download on the page. > > The problem is a practical one: if someone want to modify the document > will need to have installed the proprietary fonts (which he may not want > to), otherwise the application will replace it automatically with > another font, resulting in something that will not look as intended. So > converting the text to path will keep the look, sacrificing text > editability (something a fair trade-off). +1 ~m From ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 17:47:54 2008 From: ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:47:54 +0100 Subject: Fedora Logo Usage Guidelines: complementary font In-Reply-To: <480CB049.80104@fedoraproject.org> References: <480CB049.80104@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0804211047k74025a48i6efe8de954369261@mail.gmail.com> On 21/04/2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#head-991436ccf5fa3666a5c6c8da32e67ec05133328a ... >> MgOpen Modata is part of Fedora. To install this font (and the other MgOpen >> fonts): >> yum install mgopen-fonts I love fedora :) ./b -- | seawolf | | Ben Arnold | | e-mail / msn / icq / web | | http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary | | ben.arnold.inbox (at) gmail.com | | iamseawolf (at) gmail (dot) com | From eshikafe at yahoo.co.uk Mon Apr 21 18:31:42 2008 From: eshikafe at yahoo.co.uk (aigbe austin) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:31:42 +0100 (BST) Subject: fedora LiveUSB: My little design Message-ID: <767104.98070.qm@web25012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> This is my completed task for the Fedora LiveUSB. I hope you like it. I also wish to proceed to the next stage of becomin' a Fedora Art contributor. 10x. __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I also don't think we can use the official USB logo like that. ~m From ryanlerch at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 20:45:26 2008 From: ryanlerch at gmail.com (ryan lerch) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:45:26 +1000 Subject: fedora LiveUSB: My little design In-Reply-To: <480CE73F.9040105@fedoraproject.org> References: <767104.98070.qm@web25012.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <480CE73F.9040105@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <671a617b0804211345n579712b7s3687ad08e7a193e2@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 5:13 AM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > I don't believe this design will work at small sizes such as 32x32 and > 24x24 where it is likely to be used. I also don't think we can use the > official USB logo like that. If you are using inkscape to design this logo, try to use the Icon Preview (view > icon preview) This will give you a display of what the PNG will look at in smaller sizes, so you can tweak the drawing to work better as an icon. hope this helps, ryanlerch -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frankly3d at gmail.com Tue Apr 22 14:39:14 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:39:14 +0100 Subject: Some inkscape help req. Fedora Related Message-ID: <1208875154.7678.7.camel@frank-01> Using Ryans Banner Template, but some problems occurring. When I try scale-down the mast it bloats up, becomes a blob. How can I extend the drop-shadow under blue? Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fedora-amateur-radio.svg Type: image/svg+xml Size: 32686 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Frank Murphy wrote: > Using Ryans Banner Template, > but some problems occurring. > > When I try scale-down the mast it bloats up, > becomes a blob. > > How can I extend the drop-shadow under blue? > > Frank > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Apr 22 19:54:17 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:54:17 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Outage Notification - 2008-05-08 14:00 UTC Message-ID: There will be an outage starting at 2008-05-08 14:00 UTC, which will last approximately 5 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2008-05-08 14:00 UTC' Affected Services: Websites CVS / Source Control Buildsystem Database Mail All auth systems Unaffected Services: Torrent DNS fedorapeople.org planet Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/519 Reason for Outage: The network guys will be performing a number of upgrades during this outage window which is expected to last 5 hours. Systems will be up and down during this time. Some will be off during the duration of the time for safety / data protection. Some systems we'll be moving to alternate sites. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. 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To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2008-05-03 14:00 UTC' Affected Services: Websites CVS / Source Control Buildsystem Database Mail All auth systems Unaffected Services: Torrent DNS fedorapeople.org planet Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/519 Reason for Outage: The network guys will be performing a number of upgrades during this outage window which is expected to last 5 hours. Systems will be up and down during this time. Some will be off during the duration of the time for safety / data protection. Some systems we'll be moving to alternate sites. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 10:19:02 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:19:02 +0200 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft Message-ID: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> Hi, I've just finished a draft of a reworked computer icon. I attach 48x48 PNG version, the rest is at my fedorapeople page [1]. Comments welcome, Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: computer48.png Type: image/png Size: 3867 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I attach 48x48 > PNG version, the rest is at my fedorapeople page [1]. > > Comments welcome, > Martin > > References: > [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- http://scwlab.com From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Apr 23 10:30:03 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:30:03 +0300 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <480F0FAB.7070300@nicubunu.ro> Martin Sourada wrote: > I've just finished a draft of a reworked computer icon. I attach 48x48 > PNG version, the rest is at my fedorapeople page [1]. > > Comments welcome, Maybe the computer could be smaller (small form factor?) but my comment is about something else: on that page you have also an "internet-web-browser" icon, which is just a globe. Isn't that a bit too simplistic? Does a globe by itself represent the web browsing metaphor? > References: > [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/ -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From stlwrt at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 10:35:04 2008 From: stlwrt at gmail.com (Pavel Shevchuk) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:35:04 +0300 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: <480F0FAB.7070300@nicubunu.ro> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> <480F0FAB.7070300@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: >Does a globe by itself represent the web browsing metaphor? Yes. For casual user browser browser is the only window to World Wide Web. Ubuntu also uses globe (but blue) as icon for firefox On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > > I've just finished a draft of a reworked computer icon. I attach 48x48 > > PNG version, the rest is at my fedorapeople page [1]. > > > > Comments welcome, > > > > Maybe the computer could be smaller (small form factor?) but my comment is > about something else: on that page you have also an "internet-web-browser" > icon, which is just a globe. Isn't that a bit too simplistic? Does a globe > by itself represent the web browsing metaphor? > > > > > References: > > [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/ > > > > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- http://scwlab.com From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 10:38:44 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:38:44 +0200 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: <480F0FAB.7070300@nicubunu.ro> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> <480F0FAB.7070300@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1208947124.3070.9.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 13:30 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > I've just finished a draft of a reworked computer icon. I attach 48x48 > > PNG version, the rest is at my fedorapeople page [1]. > > > > Comments welcome, > > Maybe the computer could be smaller (small form factor?) Hm... smaller computer? It might work. Perhaps it would make the icon better recognizable in smaller sizes... > but my comment > is about something else: on that page you have also an > "internet-web-browser" icon, which is just a globe. Isn't that a bit too > simplistic? Does a globe by itself represent the web browsing metaphor? > Well, usually there's a mouse-arrow or mouse included as well (like there [1]), I am not sure if such metaphor would work nicely for Echo too. But one never knows until he tries ;-) References: [1] http://svn.gnome.org/svn/gnome-icon-theme/trunk/22x22/apps/web-browser.png -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From sstorari at byte-code.com Wed Apr 23 11:02:02 2008 From: sstorari at byte-code.com (Samuele Storari) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:02:02 +0200 (CEST) Subject: R: Re: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: <213243870.2761208948294479.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <1526988141.2781208948522810.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Nice, I prefer the complex one but instead of using concentric waves like u do, I think it would be better try a new version moving the waves near a "corner" (if we can say corner for a circle :D) And maybe u can try a more dark blue tone for the background. In the end +1, but I'm curious to see the variation. Ciao Samuele ----- Messaggio originale ----- Da: "ryan lerch" A: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including icons, themes, and wallpapers." Inviato: Mercoled?, 23 aprile 2008 12:46:52 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam/Berlino/Berna/Roma/Stoccolma/Vienna Oggetto: Re: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD I have taken into consideration the ideas / suggestions discussed eariler in this threasd and an updated version of the art is on the wiki: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9 I chose "x86_64 Live CD" as the sample variation because it was the longest string. feel free to comment, critique and enhance these works... cheers, ryanlerch On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Max Spevack < mspevack at redhat.com > wrote: How many variations of the CD / DVD are there going to be? For sure: x86 Live CD x86 DVD Someone might want to produce: x86_64 Live CD x86_64 DVD Doubtful they'll be used, but probably trivial to create art for: ppc Live CD ppc DVD --Max _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com From tatadbb at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 11:15:49 2008 From: tatadbb at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:45:49 +1930 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: <1208947261.3070.12.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> <1208947261.3070.12.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <27a6293b0804230415r2dc48070h8b36aa7c56e39b40@mail.gmail.com> think that's cool... but I dont think that the monitor perspective is correctly formed. I put this one a little more to the left.. like a smallers 20? or 30? But the hole thing is so cool :D 2008/4/24, Martin Sourada : > > On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 13:24 +0300, Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > > Looks nice imo. Screen color could be updated every release to reflect > > color of default wallpaper (Apple does this) =) > > > > Yup, it could, it's not that much of a work to add simple version of the > desktop wallpaper there. > > > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markg85 at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 15:57:36 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:57:36 +0200 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0804230415r2dc48070h8b36aa7c56e39b40@mail.gmail.com> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> <1208947261.3070.12.camel@pc-notebook> <27a6293b0804230415r2dc48070h8b36aa7c56e39b40@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80804230857y690a52f1tbed6e5c512a55ef0@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/23 Mar?a Leandro : > think that's cool... but I dont think that the monitor perspective is > correctly formed. > I was thinking the exact same! The monitor is definitely out of perspective.. but nice to see a wide-screen in the computer icon ^_^ Also this suggestion: 2008/4/23 Nicu Buculei : > Maybe the computer could be smaller (small form factor?) That would definitely be a unique icon and i think will look better as well. > but my comment is > about something else: on that page you have also an "internet-web-browser" > icon, which is just a globe. Isn't that a bit too simplistic? Does a globe > by itself represent the web browsing metaphor? Usually it's a globe icon or a globe with lines going over it. Perhaps CAD5 shaped hole with sparks in it in the globe would be nice? :) From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 23 16:01:07 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:01:07 -0400 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <480F5D43.2030601@fedoraproject.org> Martin Sourada wrote: > Hi, > > I've just finished a draft of a reworked computer icon. I attach 48x48 > PNG version, the rest is at my fedorapeople page [1]. > > Comments welcome, The problems I had always had with that icon are still there: 1) the monitor looks like it needs V8; it looks like it's tipping over backwards 2) I have never seen, in real life, a monitor placed that way up against a computer tower ~m From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 17:18:15 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:18:15 +0200 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80804230857y690a52f1tbed6e5c512a55ef0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> <1208947261.3070.12.camel@pc-notebook> <27a6293b0804230415r2dc48070h8b36aa7c56e39b40@mail.gmail.com> <6e24a8e80804230857y690a52f1tbed6e5c512a55ef0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1208971095.3070.23.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 17:57 +0200, Mark wrote: > 2008/4/23 Mar?a Leandro : > > think that's cool... but I dont think that the monitor perspective is > > correctly formed. > > > > I was thinking the exact same! > The monitor is definitely out of perspective.. but nice to see a > wide-screen in the computer icon ^_^ > It's definitely NOT out of perspective but it's definitely strange. Mathematically speaking, the points and the shape follows the isometric perspective correctly, however to the eye of a beholder, who is used to real word perspective, it looks odd. > Also this suggestion: > 2008/4/23 Nicu Buculei : > > Maybe the computer could be smaller (small form factor?) > > That would definitely be a unique icon and i think will look better as well. > > > but my comment is > > about something else: on that page you have also an "internet-web-browser" > > icon, which is just a globe. Isn't that a bit too simplistic? Does a globe > > by itself represent the web browsing metaphor? > > Usually it's a globe icon or a globe with lines going over it. You mistake category-internet for internet-web-browser there. It's two different things. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 17:18:21 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:18:21 +0200 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: <480F5D43.2030601@fedoraproject.org> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> <480F5D43.2030601@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1208971101.3070.25.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 12:01 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've just finished a draft of a reworked computer icon. I attach 48x48 > > PNG version, the rest is at my fedorapeople page [1]. > > > > Comments welcome, > > The problems I had always had with that icon are still there: > > 1) the monitor looks like it needs V8; it looks like it's tipping over > backwards It's hard to get rid of this feeling in the isometric perspective. No matter how you try it always ends up looking like strange (I believe it's because human brain is not used to isometric perspective and interprets it wrongly in these cases), unless you place the monitor upwards (which I tried to avoid). > 2) I have never seen, in real life, a monitor placed that way up against > a computer tower > Yeah, I've seen such set-ups but they are really rare, alas the place is finite and if we go with monitor PLUS computer tower there doesn't to be any better way of placing those. > ~m > Anyway, I'll try to poke with the design a little more tonight and see what I can do about these two issues. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 23 17:26:29 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:26:29 -0400 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: <1208971101.3070.25.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> <480F5D43.2030601@fedoraproject.org> <1208971101.3070.25.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <480F7145.6040707@fedoraproject.org> Martin Sourada wrote: >> 2) I have never seen, in real life, a monitor placed that way up against >> a computer tower >> > Yeah, I've seen such set-ups but they are really rare, alas the place is > finite and if we go with monitor PLUS computer tower there doesn't to be > any better way of placing those. Sure there is, look at how it's done in bluecurve... ~m From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 17:49:09 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:49:09 +0200 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: <480F7145.6040707@fedoraproject.org> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> <480F5D43.2030601@fedoraproject.org> <1208971101.3070.25.camel@pc-notebook> <480F7145.6040707@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1208972949.3070.29.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 13:26 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > >> 2) I have never seen, in real life, a monitor placed that way up against > >> a computer tower > >> > > Yeah, I've seen such set-ups but they are really rare, alas the place is > > finite and if we go with monitor PLUS computer tower there doesn't to be > > any better way of placing those. > > Sure there is, look at how it's done in bluecurve... > I see, they use really small computer... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 23 18:03:38 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:03:38 -0400 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: <1208972949.3070.29.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> <480F5D43.2030601@fedoraproject.org> <1208971101.3070.25.camel@pc-notebook> <480F7145.6040707@fedoraproject.org> <1208972949.3070.29.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <480F79FA.9040009@fedoraproject.org> Martin Sourada wrote: > On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 13:26 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Martin Sourada wrote: >>>> 2) I have never seen, in real life, a monitor placed that way up against >>>> a computer tower >>>> >>> Yeah, I've seen such set-ups but they are really rare, alas the place is >>> finite and if we go with monitor PLUS computer tower there doesn't to be >>> any better way of placing those. >> Sure there is, look at how it's done in bluecurve... >> > I see, they use really small computer... Yeah, that might work, but at > smaller sizes the computer looks more like a smudge than PC... > > Perhaps I'll try gnome approach (monitor + keyboard). At smaller sizes you could remove the monitor and just use the computer ~m From tatadbb at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 18:32:19 2008 From: tatadbb at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:02:19 +1930 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: <480F79FA.9040009@fedoraproject.org> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> <480F5D43.2030601@fedoraproject.org> <1208971101.3070.25.camel@pc-notebook> <480F7145.6040707@fedoraproject.org> <1208972949.3070.29.camel@pc-notebook> <480F79FA.9040009@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <27a6293b0804231132r1c35667dhd0959f88ef569a19@mail.gmail.com> 2008/4/24, M?ir?n Duffy : > > Martin Sourada wrote: > > > On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 13:26 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > > > > Martin Sourada wrote: > > > > > > > 2) I have never seen, in real life, a monitor placed that way up > > > > > against a computer tower > > > > > > > > LOL... I DO have my monitor places against the tower :$ and I think that you should keep the monitor... only fix the perspective.. the tower AND the monitor are part of the computer :D Yeah, I've seen such set-ups but they are really rare, alas the place is > > > > finite and if we go with monitor PLUS computer tower there doesn't > > > > to be > > > > any better way of placing those. > > > > > > > Sure there is, look at how it's done in bluecurve... > > > > > > I see, they use really small computer... Yeah, that might work, but > > at > > smaller sizes the computer looks more like a smudge than PC... > > > > Perhaps I'll try gnome approach (monitor + keyboard). > > > > At smaller sizes you could remove the monitor and just use the computer > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 19:32:46 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:32:46 +0200 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: <480F79FA.9040009@fedoraproject.org> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> <480F5D43.2030601@fedoraproject.org> <1208971101.3070.25.camel@pc-notebook> <480F7145.6040707@fedoraproject.org> <1208972949.3070.29.camel@pc-notebook> <480F79FA.9040009@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1208979166.3070.40.camel@pc-notebook> Following some of your suggestions I created 4 variations [1]. Firstly, I added some depth to the monitor, so that it looks more massive, secondly I made the monitor upright (I noticed my room-mate has a similarly positioned LCD monitor). And now to the variations: a) trying smaller computer - easier to recognise the shape, but it feels like something is missing... b) normal-sized computer, slightly changed position - better defined shape than the original, looks better than with the smaller computer c) use keyboard+monitor - this one is my favourite, also has an advantage of sharing the same metaphor with the same icon from gnome icon theme [2] d) following Mo's suggestions - similar positioning like in bluecurve, only with echo perspective I attach PNGs, SVGs are at fedorapeople [1]. I've created only 48x48 (time constraints). I will create other sizes when we decide which one to use. Thanks for your comments, Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/ [2] http://people.freedesktop.org/~jimmac/icons/ PS: you might notice that I used wide-screen monitor and wireless keyboard... you know... first, it looks IMHO better and second, fedora is hi-tech, isn't it? :-D -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I DO have my monitor places against the tower :$ > > and I think that you should keep the monitor... only fix the > perspective.. the tower AND the monitor are part of the computer :D > Not necessarily, I believe some MACs have the HW integrated in the monitor, so no tower is needed :-D Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From stlwrt at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 19:50:59 2008 From: stlwrt at gmail.com (Pavel Shevchuk) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:50:59 +0300 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: <480F5D43.2030601@fedoraproject.org> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> <480F5D43.2030601@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On 4/23/08, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I've just finished a draft of a reworked computer icon. I attach 48x48 > > PNG version, the rest is at my fedorapeople page [1]. > > > > Comments welcome, > > > > The problems I had always had with that icon are still there: > > 1) the monitor looks like it needs V8; it looks like it's tipping over > backwards > 2) I have never seen, in real life, a monitor placed that way up against a > computer tower Mo, you're welcome to visit my flat anytime to see such (practical) desk layout in real life =) Photo: http://stalwart.fedorapeople.org/tmp/stalwart_desk_delta.jpg P.S. I like this icon even more now =) > > ~m > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- http://scwlab.com From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 23 19:56:02 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:56:02 -0400 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> <480F5D43.2030601@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <480F9452.4040301@fedoraproject.org> Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > On 4/23/08, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Martin Sourada wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've just finished a draft of a reworked computer icon. I attach 48x48 >>> PNG version, the rest is at my fedorapeople page [1]. >>> >>> Comments welcome, >>> >> The problems I had always had with that icon are still there: >> >> 1) the monitor looks like it needs V8; it looks like it's tipping over >> backwards >> 2) I have never seen, in real life, a monitor placed that way up against a >> computer tower > > Mo, you're welcome to visit my flat anytime to see such (practical) > desk layout in real life =) > Photo: http://stalwart.fedorapeople.org/tmp/stalwart_desk_delta.jpg > > P.S. I like this icon even more now =) Well that's great. I've never before seen that in practice. Why? Because, most people like having desk space so they keep the tower under their desk, and it's also far easier to access to the CD drive and USB ports when the system's front is facing you. ~m From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 20:02:34 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:02:34 +0200 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: <480F9452.4040301@fedoraproject.org> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> <480F5D43.2030601@fedoraproject.org> <480F9452.4040301@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1208980955.3070.49.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 15:56 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > > On 4/23/08, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> Martin Sourada wrote: > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I've just finished a draft of a reworked computer icon. I attach 48x48 > >>> PNG version, the rest is at my fedorapeople page [1]. > >>> > >>> Comments welcome, > >>> > >> The problems I had always had with that icon are still there: > >> > >> 1) the monitor looks like it needs V8; it looks like it's tipping over > >> backwards > >> 2) I have never seen, in real life, a monitor placed that way up against a > >> computer tower > > > > Mo, you're welcome to visit my flat anytime to see such (practical) > > desk layout in real life =) > > Photo: http://stalwart.fedorapeople.org/tmp/stalwart_desk_delta.jpg > > > > P.S. I like this icon even more now =) > > Well that's great. > > I've never before seen that in practice. Why? Because, most people like > having desk space so they keep the tower under their desk, and it's also > far easier to access to the CD drive and USB ports when the system's > front is facing you. > > ~m Especially if the only usb ports available are at the back :-D But now for real... I don't think it's *far* easier to access DVD drive when it's facing you or when it's in Pavel's setup. I'd even say the easiness is comparable (after all in notebook I also have a DVD drive on its side and the thing that bugs me most is front facing audio out/in-put)... But that does not alter the fact that most people have the tower under their desk... Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From gradyfausta at laksmono.com Wed Apr 23 22:48:30 2008 From: gradyfausta at laksmono.com (Grady Laksmono) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:48:30 -0700 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: It looks really nice, I like it :) - Grady 2008/4/23 Martin Sourada : > Hi, > > I've just finished a draft of a reworked computer icon. I attach 48x48 > PNG version, the rest is at my fedorapeople page [1]. > > Comments welcome, > Martin > > References: > [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Thu Apr 24 02:38:34 2008 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gian Paolo Mureddu) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:38:34 -0500 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: <480F5D43.2030601@fedoraproject.org> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> <480F5D43.2030601@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <480FF2AA.7000909@prodigy.net.mx> > > 2) I have never seen, in real life, a monitor placed that way up > against a computer tower > > ~m Interesting, my main computer is arranged like that (more for space reasons than anything) From joachim.frieben at googlemail.com Thu Apr 24 04:49:45 2008 From: joachim.frieben at googlemail.com (JF) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:49:45 +0200 Subject: F9 Waves background Message-ID: <1c252d490804232149y7c4b3dcx8d3af52228938533@mail.gmail.com> I am very pleased by the new F9 artwork. One detail that popped to my eyes though is that these annular objects in the waves background are rather looking like smoke rings. In order to look like waves, the modulation between minima and maxima would need to be more even, well, simply following the amplitude of a sine function. Another point is that the rather dark hues of blue used for rhgb are so similar to those of the the Fedora logo that both are barely discernable. ~jf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stickster at gmail.com Thu Apr 24 05:07:21 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:07:21 +0000 Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: <671a617b0804230346u76a9196crfee4b51c844ad239@mail.gmail.com> References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> <671a617b0804161322s74e0457bhc8139401190a3576@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804161538o35a02899rccd55b7e50053db2@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804162022n3a5d5833s239b78a4b16f74ce@mail.gmail.com> <20080417153904.GB28822@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171839y7561de46x7c07a7b6bf9e771f@mail.gmail.com> <20080418020611.GB26630@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171943g1ef86bf4rd97f0f923f1b1041@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804230346u76a9196crfee4b51c844ad239@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1209013641.7368.81.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 20:46 +1000, ryan lerch wrote: > I have taken into consideration the ideas / suggestions discussed > eariler in this threasd and an updated version of the art is on the > wiki: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9 > > I chose "x86_64 Live CD" as the sample variation because it was the > longest string. > > feel free to comment, critique and enhance these works... I think these look great. We need to get something selected and polished pretty much immediately, so we'll be able to have discs printed and available after release. Mo, Max said that he ran into the printer at recently and they said they were ready to work with us. What will it take to get this underway? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Ah, but the important issue is... does it make base.svg simpler or more complex? -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From luya at fedoraproject.org Thu Apr 24 05:46:54 2008 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:46:54 -0400 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1209016014.48101ece2e2d5@ssl.mecca.ca> The layout is nice. I think about some IMac or custom PC that integrate USB and optic media in the back of monitor. The widescreen monitor may be suitable for other icons that use it. I wonder if a metallic silver tower works. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Apr 24 06:19:29 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:19:29 +0300 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: <1208979166.3070.40.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> <480F5D43.2030601@fedoraproject.org> <1208971101.3070.25.camel@pc-notebook> <480F7145.6040707@fedoraproject.org> <1208972949.3070.29.camel@pc-notebook> <480F79FA.9040009@fedoraproject.org> <1208979166.3070.40.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <48102671.7030309@nicubunu.ro> Martin Sourada wrote: > Following some of your suggestions I created 4 variations [1]. Firstly, > I added some depth to the monitor, so that it looks more massive, > secondly I made the monitor upright (I noticed my room-mate has a > similarly positioned LCD monitor). And now to the variations: All of them are good, but some of them are, IMO, better: > a) trying smaller computer - easier to recognise the shape, but it feels > like something is missing... This one is what I probably like the best. The feeling of something missing is probably due to the large distance between tower and monitor, I would try a more compact layout. > b) normal-sized computer, slightly changed position - better defined > shape than the original, looks better than with the smaller computer The big tower steals my focus. > c) use keyboard+monitor - this one is my favourite, also has an > advantage of sharing the same metaphor with the same icon from gnome > icon theme [2] I like it too. Maybe if the keyboard overleaps a bit the base of the monitor? > d) following Mo's suggestions - similar positioning like in bluecurve, > only with echo perspective Here I feel like a lot of space is wasted. > I attach PNGs, SVGs are at fedorapeople [1]. I've created only 48x48 > (time constraints). I will create other sizes when we decide which one > to use. > > Thanks for your comments, > Martin > > References: > [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/ > [2] http://people.freedesktop.org/~jimmac/icons/ -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From luya at fedoraproject.org Thu Apr 24 06:42:06 2008 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:42:06 -0700 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon draft In-Reply-To: <1208979166.3070.40.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> <480F5D43.2030601@fedoraproject.org> <1208971101.3070.25.camel@pc-notebook> <480F7145.6040707@fedoraproject.org> <1208972949.3070.29.camel@pc-notebook> <480F79FA.9040009@fedoraproject.org> <1208979166.3070.40.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <48102BBE.4010901@fedoraproject.org> Martin Sourada a ?crit : > PS: you might notice that I used wide-screen monitor and wireless > keyboard... you know... first, it looks IMHO better and second, fedora > is hi-tech, isn't it? :-D > How about making the monitor thinner? Luya From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Apr 24 07:28:03 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:28:03 +0300 Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: <1209013641.7368.81.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> <671a617b0804161322s74e0457bhc8139401190a3576@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804161538o35a02899rccd55b7e50053db2@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804162022n3a5d5833s239b78a4b16f74ce@mail.gmail.com> <20080417153904.GB28822@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171839y7561de46x7c07a7b6bf9e771f@mail.gmail.com> <20080418020611.GB26630@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171943g1ef86bf4rd97f0f923f1b1041@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804230346u76a9196crfee4b51c844ad239@mail.gmail.com> <1209013641.7368.81.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <48103683.7010102@nicubunu.ro> Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 20:46 +1000, ryan lerch wrote: >> I have taken into consideration the ideas / suggestions discussed >> eariler in this threasd and an updated version of the art is on the >> wiki: >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9 > > I think these look great. We need to get something selected and > polished pretty much immediately, so we'll be able to have discs printed > and available after release. Then Paul, you can act as our fearless leader and choose what you like best and go with it :p The issue is like that and depend greatly on the printing shop: The second ("complex") design looks much better but is harder to print, the first ("simple") is much printer-friendly, while is not bad looking at all. The second part of the issue is about file formats, if the printer insists about a vector format and that vector format is PDF or EPS (and *no* SVG[*]) then the "simple" layout probably can be adjusted to look acceptable in that format, while for the "complex" layout, I don't think is possible for us to provide something else than SVG and/or raster (at whatever DPI values they want). The last part is related to costs: the "complex" layout have more colors, will it cost more? Too much? > Mo, Max said that he ran into the printer at recently and they said they > were ready to work with us. What will it take to get this underway? I think we need the choice above and the exact detail about file formats. [*] - even if both Adobe Illustrator and Corel Draw should be perfectly able to open SVG files. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Apr 24 13:30:14 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:30:14 -0400 Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: <1209013641.7368.81.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> <671a617b0804161322s74e0457bhc8139401190a3576@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804161538o35a02899rccd55b7e50053db2@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804162022n3a5d5833s239b78a4b16f74ce@mail.gmail.com> <20080417153904.GB28822@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171839y7561de46x7c07a7b6bf9e771f@mail.gmail.com> <20080418020611.GB26630@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171943g1ef86bf4rd97f0f923f1b1041@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804230346u76a9196crfee4b51c844ad239@mail.gmail.com> <1209013641.7368.81.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <48108B66.8050500@fedoraproject.org> Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 20:46 +1000, ryan lerch wrote: >> I have taken into consideration the ideas / suggestions discussed >> eariler in this threasd and an updated version of the art is on the >> wiki: >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9 >> >> I chose "x86_64 Live CD" as the sample variation because it was the >> longest string. >> >> feel free to comment, critique and enhance these works... > > I think these look great. We need to get something selected and > polished pretty much immediately, so we'll be able to have discs printed > and available after release. > > Mo, Max said that he ran into the printer at recently and they said they > were ready to work with us. What will it take to get this underway? Right now I'd lean towards the simpler of designs for the disc itself (I'm pretty sure the cover follows a different printing process so the colors/gradients are okay in that one) Right now that disk will require 5 layers of ink (screenprint process). I think we should either modify the waves colors so that they are the same as the logo colors or we should just kill the waves all-togther and go with a general purpose disc design so all we have to do from release to release is upgrade the release number (and we can use the sleeve for matching the theme artwork) I'll spend some time today modifying the disc design for this. But I fear the printers will likely not be able to take it as-is because of color-matching and there is going to have to be some back and forth. If we can work that out with a more generic disc design then hopefully we won't have to go through it next release. ~m From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Apr 24 15:08:15 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:08:15 -0400 Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: <671a617b0804230346u76a9196crfee4b51c844ad239@mail.gmail.com> References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> <671a617b0804161322s74e0457bhc8139401190a3576@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804161538o35a02899rccd55b7e50053db2@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804162022n3a5d5833s239b78a4b16f74ce@mail.gmail.com> <20080417153904.GB28822@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171839y7561de46x7c07a7b6bf9e771f@mail.gmail.com> <20080418020611.GB26630@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171943g1ef86bf4rd97f0f923f1b1041@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804230346u76a9196crfee4b51c844ad239@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4810A25F.4020807@fedoraproject.org> ryan lerch wrote: > I have taken into consideration the ideas / suggestions discussed > eariler in this threasd and an updated version of the art is on the wiki: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9 > > I chose "x86_64 Live CD" as the sample variation because it was the > longest string. > > feel free to comment, critique and enhance these works... Hey Ryan, it looks like the cd design is only 3.7* inches but it should be 4.5 inches right? Where did you get the template? ~m From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Apr 24 21:47:02 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:47:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: <671a617b0804230346u76a9196crfee4b51c844ad239@mail.gmail.com> References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> <671a617b0804161322s74e0457bhc8139401190a3576@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804161538o35a02899rccd55b7e50053db2@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804162022n3a5d5833s239b78a4b16f74ce@mail.gmail.com> <20080417153904.GB28822@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171839y7561de46x7c07a7b6bf9e771f@mail.gmail.com> <20080418020611.GB26630@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171943g1ef86bf4rd97f0f923f1b1041@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804230346u76a9196crfee4b51c844ad239@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 23 Apr 2008, ryan lerch wrote: > I have taken into consideration the ideas / suggestions discussed > eariler in this threasd and an updated version of the art is on the > wiki: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9 Ryan, I just wanted to say a big thank you for the work that you've done on the Fedora 9 CD and DVD disc art and sleeves. Just think, in the next 6 months it will probably end up on close to 10,000 disks on 6 continents. :) Go Fedora Art Team! --Max, head cheerleader From stickster at gmail.com Thu Apr 24 21:55:41 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:55:41 +0000 Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> <671a617b0804161322s74e0457bhc8139401190a3576@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804161538o35a02899rccd55b7e50053db2@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804162022n3a5d5833s239b78a4b16f74ce@mail.gmail.com> <20080417153904.GB28822@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171839y7561de46x7c07a7b6bf9e771f@mail.gmail.com> <20080418020611.GB26630@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171943g1ef86bf4rd97f0f923f1b1041@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804230346u76a9196crfee4b51c844ad239@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1209074141.26737.138.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 17:47 -0400, Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 23 Apr 2008, ryan lerch wrote: > > > I have taken into consideration the ideas / suggestions discussed > > eariler in this threasd and an updated version of the art is on the > > wiki: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F9 > > Ryan, > > I just wanted to say a big thank you for the work that you've done on > the Fedora 9 CD and DVD disc art and sleeves. > > Just think, in the next 6 months it will probably end up on close to > 10,000 disks on 6 continents. :) > > Go Fedora Art Team! And also to everyone who worked on the theming and iterating, up through and including the final artwork -- I think this release's artwork is the best yet. FWIW, I never change my Fedora desktop background because I love the art our community has done. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Where did you get the template? Okay, here's what's going on: - It looks like Ryan used the FC5 template, which is what I recommended he do. Well, that template was actually off. No wonder the fc6 discs came out with extra space along the edges - we used teh fc5 template for that! - I simplified the disc design a lot so there are less colors. The design we had the most truoble with last year was the disc design; the sleeve was less difficult. So I thought if we can get the disc right this year with simple/generic design, then we can just use the same file and increment the fedora release number and make things a lot easier on ourselves. I did this design in scribus. - I used Ryan's design for the sleeves. It looks fabulous printed out. What I did is removed all text but the stylized 9 and fedora logo, and I exported that to a 300 dpi png. I imported that bitmap in as the backgroudn in scribus, and I did all the text in scribus. It is looking like the scribus color management is going to make things a lot easier with the printer this release. ( The main problems we had were color matching. ) I sent these files to the printer today. I'll let you know when I hear back and if we are good to go: http://people.redhat.com/duffy/misc/f9-discs/disc%20labels.tar.gz (includes scribus source files, svg source files for background, and the eps files for the printer) The previews of these in PNG format are also in that directory: http://people.redhat.com/duffy/misc/f9-discs/ ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Apr 25 07:15:52 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:15:52 +0300 Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: <48108B66.8050500@fedoraproject.org> References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> <671a617b0804161322s74e0457bhc8139401190a3576@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804161538o35a02899rccd55b7e50053db2@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804162022n3a5d5833s239b78a4b16f74ce@mail.gmail.com> <20080417153904.GB28822@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171839y7561de46x7c07a7b6bf9e771f@mail.gmail.com> <20080418020611.GB26630@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171943g1ef86bf4rd97f0f923f1b1041@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804230346u76a9196crfee4b51c844ad239@mail.gmail.com> <1209013641.7368.81.camel@localhost.localdomain> <48108B66.8050500@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <48118528.6020301@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Right now I'd lean towards the simpler of designs for the disc itself > (I'm pretty sure the cover follows a different printing process so the > colors/gradients are okay in that one) > > Right now that disk will require 5 layers of ink (screenprint process). > I think we should either modify the waves colors so that they are the > same as the logo colors or we should just kill the waves all-togther and > go with a general purpose disc design so all we have to do from release > to release is upgrade the release number (and we can use the sleeve for > matching the theme artwork) But at the same time I think its useful for us to also keep the fancy, "complex", designs for those who want to "make their own" discs on inkjet printers. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From duffy at fedoraproject.org Fri Apr 25 14:11:36 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:11:36 -0400 Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: <48118528.6020301@nicubunu.ro> References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> <671a617b0804161322s74e0457bhc8139401190a3576@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804161538o35a02899rccd55b7e50053db2@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804162022n3a5d5833s239b78a4b16f74ce@mail.gmail.com> <20080417153904.GB28822@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171839y7561de46x7c07a7b6bf9e771f@mail.gmail.com> <20080418020611.GB26630@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171943g1ef86bf4rd97f0f923f1b1041@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804230346u76a9196crfee4b51c844ad239@mail.gmail.com> <1209013641.7368.81.camel@localhost.localdomain> <48108B66.8050500@fedoraproject.org> <48118528.6020301@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <4811E698.40809@fedoraproject.org> Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Right now I'd lean towards the simpler of designs for the disc itself >> (I'm pretty sure the cover follows a different printing process so the >> colors/gradients are okay in that one) >> >> Right now that disk will require 5 layers of ink (screenprint >> process). I think we should either modify the waves colors so that >> they are the same as the logo colors or we should just kill the waves >> all-togther and go with a general purpose disc design so all we have >> to do from release to release is upgrade the release number (and we >> can use the sleeve for matching the theme artwork) > > But at the same time I think its useful for us to also keep the fancy, > "complex", designs for those who want to "make their own" discs on > inkjet printers. > Definitely! We'll have them both on the media designs page and just label one as for inkjet and one for professional printing! I think it would be good too to put the artwork for the inkjet ones into glabel templates so its that much easier for folks to print them. ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Apr 25 14:33:02 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:33:02 +0300 Subject: Fedora 9.0 CD/DVD In-Reply-To: <4811E698.40809@fedoraproject.org> References: <1208078505.8892.4.camel@crysalis.arda.dyndns.info> <671a617b0804161322s74e0457bhc8139401190a3576@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804161538o35a02899rccd55b7e50053db2@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804162022n3a5d5833s239b78a4b16f74ce@mail.gmail.com> <20080417153904.GB28822@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171839y7561de46x7c07a7b6bf9e771f@mail.gmail.com> <20080418020611.GB26630@localhost.localdomain> <671a617b0804171943g1ef86bf4rd97f0f923f1b1041@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804230346u76a9196crfee4b51c844ad239@mail.gmail.com> <1209013641.7368.81.camel@localhost.localdomain> <48108B66.8050500@fedoraproject.org> <48118528.6020301@nicubunu.ro> <4811E698.40809@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4811EB9E.7000003@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: >> But at the same time I think its useful for us to also keep the fancy, >> "complex", designs for those who want to "make their own" discs on >> inkjet printers. > > Definitely! We'll have them both on the media designs page and just > label one as for inkjet and one for professional printing! > > I think it would be good too to put the artwork for the inkjet ones into > glabel templates so its that much easier for folks to print them. Maybe just link to your tutorial [1], otherwise we may need to produce a lot of templates in gLabels, one for each paper type (or *at least* Letter and A4). [1] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/CDArt/HowTo -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From christopherrees at live.ca Mon Apr 28 00:16:41 2008 From: christopherrees at live.ca (Chris Rees) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:16:41 -0400 Subject: New contributor Message-ID: Hi. I'm Chris. I just recently started using linux and I enjoy modifying the way that the desktop looks by incorporating my own graphics. I wanted to get involved in this because I like the atmosphere in sharing. When I was young I used to enjoy drawing things, conceptualizing things; I just loved art. I havn't done many drawings lately, but when I was younger I used to sketch alot of things, mostly landscapes and personal portraits. As for real-world experience with graphical art, I don't really have much, but I can use GIMP, Inkscape and other tools with relative ease and I enjoy doing so. Also, I am somewhat of a musician (guitar and other instruments) although I don't know if that skillset is valuable to this project. I hope it is. Thanks Chris ~ _________________________________________________________________ Turn every day into $1000. Learn more at SignInAndWIN.ca http://g.msn.ca/ca55/213 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I wanted to get involved in > this because I like the atmosphere in sharing. > > When I was young I used to enjoy drawing things, conceptualizing things; I > just loved art. I havn't done many drawings lately, but when I was younger > I used to sketch alot of things, mostly landscapes and personal portraits. > > As for real-world experience with graphical art, I don't really have much, > but I can use GIMP, Inkscape and other tools with relative ease and I enjoy > doing so. > > Also, I am somewhat of a musician (guitar and other instruments) although I > don't know if that skillset is valuable to this project. I hope it is. > > Thanks > Chris > ~ > > ------------------------------ > Sign in and you could WIN! Enter for your chance to win $1000 every day. 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Here is the link I made banner printed for the event: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService Then I will post the other work in the wiki. Regards, -- Jayme Ayres Web Designer - Fedora Ambassador www.jaymeayres.com From jayme at jaymeayres.com Mon Apr 28 19:48:12 2008 From: jayme at jaymeayres.com (Jayme Ayres) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:48:12 -0300 Subject: Works in Brasil Message-ID: <64b33fc70804281248p68b3d10xf4830fc1eb64f5a0@mail.gmail.com> Hi Folks This is my first message as a member of the official Fedora Project in Brazil. We have participated in Mail List for some time, but with another address and with little participation in the discussions. During the 9 th FISL (one of the biggest events on Open source of Latin America) Greg DeKoenigsberg the knowledge that encouraged me to make the application and come to the ArtWork team, then I am here and the art was used during the event: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService Then I'll post what I have done other work for the project during this time. Regards, -- Jayme Ayres Web Designer - Fedora Ambassador www.jaymeayres.com From martin.sourada at gmail.com Mon Apr 28 19:57:55 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:57:55 +0200 Subject: System Config design queue submission In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1209412675.3051.11.camel@pc-notebook> On Sun, 2008-04-27 at 21:18 -0400, Chris Rees wrote: > I've completed a design queue listed as EPEL, the challenge was to > create a 'wizard' icon. I think this one is pretty decent, may need > to be resized according to it's use, please give me some feedback and > tell me what you think, where I can improve, etc. > I am not in a place to approve the design (you should consult with the requester), but just some comments I think might be useful: * The icon is too complex and hard to recognise in smaller sizes * One the other hand, the design looks too simple (no gradients, black borders) My suggestion would be to drop the blue thing entirely or at least make it semi-transparent and blurry so as not to obstruct the actual shape of the icon, make the stars a little shinier or drop them altogether (just the wand with the big star might do the job quite nicely). Also, add subtle gradients to fills and remove the black from the border, for the handle part of the wand, dark brown might work, for the stars, probably some sort of orange border could work nicely. Also, though it's not necessary, it would be good to make the icon following the Tango Icon Theme Guidelines [1]. > Thank You! > Thank you as well and welcome to the team! > ~Chris~ > Martin References: [1] http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Sign in now! Windows Live Messenger is giving you a chance to win > $1000 a day until May 12th Check out SignInAndWIN.ca today! Is it possible for you to drop the advertisement? It looks a bit odd in a mailing list... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I incorporated this and some of the other suggestions into another two variations, I attach PNGs, SVGs are on the usual place [1]. From my POV these two are final for the big version and we only need to choose one of them - with or without the tower? The one with tower looks IMHO a little crowded and the tower looks awful in small sizes (without size optimisation, but I think even optimisation would not do miracles...). The changes to those are: * bigger and thinner LCD display * keyboard closer to the display * more detailed display with simplified version of the F9 wallpaper ;-) Votes, comments, adjustments welcome! Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: computer48e.png Type: image/png Size: 5333 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I incorporated this and some of the other suggestions > into another two variations, I attach PNGs, SVGs are on the usual place > [1]. From my POV these two are final for the big version and we only > need to choose one of them - with or without the tower? The one with > tower looks IMHO a little crowded and the tower looks awful in small > sizes (without size optimisation, but I think even optimisation would > not do miracles...). The complete desktop set works in large size for the installer in Fedora 10. The computer without the tower fits perfectly. Make sure to widen the keyboard in 16x16 icon to avoid confusion with the single monitor. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Apr 29 07:59:38 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:59:38 +0300 Subject: Works in Brasil In-Reply-To: <64b33fc70804281248p68b3d10xf4830fc1eb64f5a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b33fc70804281248p68b3d10xf4830fc1eb64f5a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4816D56A.2060508@nicubunu.ro> Jayme Ayres wrote: > Hi Folks Hi Jayme! > This is my first message as a member of the official Fedora Project in > Brazil. We have participated in Mail List for some time, but with > another address and with little participation in the discussions. I remember I already saw (and liked) some of your works. > During the 9 th FISL (one of the biggest events on Open source of > Latin America) Greg DeKoenigsberg the knowledge that encouraged me to > make the application and come to the ArtWork team, then I am here and > the art was used during the event: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService > Then I'll post what I have done other work for the project during this time. All good, but I don't think the DesignService queue is the best place to post them (or at least, put finished works at the bottom, in the "Resources Created" section. But really, that page is a queue of work requirements, a communication channel between requesters and Art people. Since those are posters, I believe they are better fitted in the Posters page - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Posters or in the Marketing Collateral page - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral (well, those two pages overlap, which is a "bad thing"). Also, please include sources or high resolution versions of your images, the purpose of the page is not to show-off our work (for that we use our blogs and Planet Fedora), it is intended to provide an useful resource for users. note: forgive me if I sounded a bit too negative in the reply above. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Apr 29 08:06:06 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:06:06 +0300 Subject: New contributor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4816D6EE.9030501@nicubunu.ro> Chris Rees wrote: > Hi. I'm Chris. Hi Chris! > I just recently started using linux and I enjoy modifying the way that > the desktop looks by incorporating my own graphics. I wanted to get > involved in this because I like the atmosphere in sharing. > > When I was young I used to enjoy drawing things, conceptualizing things; > I just loved art. I havn't done many drawings lately, but when I was > younger I used to sketch alot of things, mostly landscapes and personal > portraits. > > As for real-world experience with graphical art, I don't really have > much, but I can use GIMP, Inkscape and other tools with relative ease > and I enjoy doing so. Cool, do you have something online to share, like a gallery (deviantART, flickr, whatever)? > Also, I am somewhat of a musician (guitar and other instruments) > although I don't know if that skillset is valuable to this project. I > hope it is. I think anyone agree Fedora is in a big need for a good sound theme but we lack the skill for it. And I think we can use some testimonials/tips/howtos about how Fedora can be used in the music world. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Tue Apr 29 11:58:55 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:58:55 +0200 Subject: Fedora Web Banner for LinuxTag 2008 Message-ID: <200804291358.59852.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Hello Fellows, we need a Web-Banner f?r "LinuxTag 2008" - we can have it as a banner on the www.redhat.de Page. Find Details on Thanks Joerg -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Since those are posters, I > believe they are better fitted in the Posters page - > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Posters or in the Marketing > Collateral page - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral > (well, those two pages overlap, which is a "bad thing"). I?ll place this in Marketing Collateral and then I?ll take away ok? > > Also, please include sources or high resolution versions of your images, > the purpose of the page is not to show-off our work (for that we use our > blogs and Planet Fedora), it is intended to provide an useful resource for > users. As I thought that was a kind of "test" (lol) posted in low resolution, once again was an error of interpretation. > > note: forgive me if I sounded a bit too negative in the reply above. No problem, these are the rules of the project and you have to show -- Jayme Ayres Web Designer - Fedora Ambassador www.jaymeayres.com From martin.sourada at gmail.com Tue Apr 29 19:25:37 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:25:37 +0200 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon FINAL In-Reply-To: <1209455054.4816d1ce41ec3@ssl.mecca.ca> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> <480F5D43.2030601@fedoraproject.org> <1208971101.3070.25.camel@pc-notebook> <480F7145.6040707@fedoraproject.org> <1208972949.3070.29.camel@pc-notebook> <480F79FA.9040009@fedoraproject.org> <1208979166.3070.40.camel@pc-notebook> <48102BBE.4010901@fedoraproject.org> <1209418590.17314.9.camel@pc-notebook> <1209455054.4816d1ce41ec3@ssl.mecca.ca> Message-ID: <1209497137.3033.21.camel@pc-notebook> On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 03:44 -0400, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > The complete desktop set works in large size for the installer in Fedora 10. The > computer without the tower fits perfectly. Make sure to widen the keyboard in > 16x16 icon to avoid confusion with the single monitor. It would still need more detail to the keyboard to be added, but I'll keep it for later reuse. The complete set is done, see my fp page [1]. Any further comments? Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From duffy at fedoraproject.org Tue Apr 29 19:47:17 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:47:17 -0400 Subject: [Echo] new computer icon FINAL In-Reply-To: <1209497137.3033.21.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1208945942.3070.2.camel@pc-notebook> <480F5D43.2030601@fedoraproject.org> <1208971101.3070.25.camel@pc-notebook> <480F7145.6040707@fedoraproject.org> <1208972949.3070.29.camel@pc-notebook> <480F79FA.9040009@fedoraproject.org> <1208979166.3070.40.camel@pc-notebook> <48102BBE.4010901@fedoraproject.org> <1209418590.17314.9.camel@pc-notebook> <1209455054.4816d1ce41ec3@ssl.mecca.ca> <1209497137.3033.21.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <48177B45.3070208@fedoraproject.org> Martin Sourada wrote: > On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 03:44 -0400, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: >> The complete desktop set works in large size for the installer in Fedora 10. The >> computer without the tower fits perfectly. Make sure to widen the keyboard in >> 16x16 icon to avoid confusion with the single monitor. > > It would still need more detail to the keyboard to be added, but I'll > keep it for later reuse. The complete set is done, see my fp page [1]. > > Any further comments? They look great :) The wallpaper is a nice touch. ~m From ryanlerch at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 00:04:03 2008 From: ryanlerch at gmail.com (ryan lerch) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:04:03 +1000 Subject: Fedora Web Banner for LinuxTag 2008 In-Reply-To: <200804291358.59852.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200804291358.59852.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <671a617b0804291704w732f3a06w5932063c30a3e53@mail.gmail.com> I have thrown together some very quick ideas for these banners. they are now on the wiki: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService#head-2457fbcaebb68dc296e444e656629848802bf26d feel free to update / improve / hack at these banners, they were just a quick throw together and i don't mind them being worked on :P cheers, ryanlerch 2008/4/29 JoergSimon : > Hello Fellows, > > we need a Web-Banner f?r "LinuxTag 2008" - we can have it as a banner on > the > www.redhat.de Page. > Find Details on > < > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService?action=show#head-2457fbcaebb68dc296e444e656629848802bf26d > > > > Thanks Joerg > -- > J?rg Simon > jsimon at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon > Key Fingerprint: > 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryanlerch at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 00:55:54 2008 From: ryanlerch at gmail.com (ryan lerch) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:55:54 +1000 Subject: Fedora Web Banner for LinuxTag 2008 In-Reply-To: <671a617b0804291704w732f3a06w5932063c30a3e53@mail.gmail.com> References: <200804291358.59852.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <671a617b0804291704w732f3a06w5932063c30a3e53@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <671a617b0804291755p1e3b2d80m939dc92c8f85923d@mail.gmail.com> I have just updated the SVG and the wiki with another design (now a total of 4) cheers, ryanlerch On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:04 AM, ryan lerch wrote: > I have thrown together some very quick ideas for these banners. they are > now on the wiki: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService#head-2457fbcaebb68dc296e444e656629848802bf26d > > feel free to update / improve / hack at these banners, they were just a > quick throw together and i don't mind them being worked on :P > > cheers, > ryanlerch > > 2008/4/29 JoergSimon : > >> Hello Fellows, >> >> we need a Web-Banner f?r "LinuxTag 2008" - we can have it as a banner on >> the >> www.redhat.de Page. >> Find Details on >> < >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService?action=show#head-2457fbcaebb68dc296e444e656629848802bf26d >> > >> >> Thanks Joerg >> -- >> J?rg Simon >> jsimon at fedoraproject.org >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon >> Key Fingerprint: >> 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-art-list mailing list >> Fedora-art-list at redhat.com >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(Does it still look as good or is the embossing really needed?) ~m From ryanlerch at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 04:00:10 2008 From: ryanlerch at gmail.com (ryan lerch) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:00:10 +1000 Subject: Fedora Web Banner for LinuxTag 2008 In-Reply-To: <4817EAB9.5040403@fedoraproject.org> References: <200804291358.59852.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <671a617b0804291704w732f3a06w5932063c30a3e53@mail.gmail.com> <671a617b0804291755p1e3b2d80m939dc92c8f85923d@mail.gmail.com> <4817EAB9.5040403@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <671a617b0804292100l2880869fn785e198c7552ff25@mail.gmail.com> No, the embossing is not needed, in fact the IMO, the banners do look better with the normal logo, so i have changed the files on the wiki again to the normal fedora logo. cheers, ryanlerch On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:42 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi Ryan, > > ryan lerch wrote: > >> I have just updated the SVG and the wiki with another design (now a total >> of 4) >> > > I think these all look great! > > Just one point of critique - I'm not sure how I feel about the embossed > Fedora logo. Can you give it a try with the plain logo? (Does it still look > as good or is the embossing really needed?) > > ~m > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 30 04:58:29 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:58:29 +0200 Subject: Fedora Web Banner for LinuxTag 2008 In-Reply-To: <671a617b0804292100l2880869fn785e198c7552ff25@mail.gmail.com> References: <200804291358.59852.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <4817EAB9.5040403@fedoraproject.org> <671a617b0804292100l2880869fn785e198c7552ff25@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200804300658.44284.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Mittwoch, 30. April 2008 06:00:10 schrieb ryan lerch: > No, the embossing is not needed, in fact the IMO, the banners do look > better with the normal logo, so i have changed the files on the wiki again > to the normal fedora logo. Wow, this was fast!!! Thanks Ryan, Thanks Mo for your help - fantastic! CU Joerg -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From stickster at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 18:46:19 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:46:19 -0400 Subject: Fedora Web Banner for LinuxTag 2008 In-Reply-To: <200804300658.44284.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200804291358.59852.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <4817EAB9.5040403@fedoraproject.org> <671a617b0804292100l2880869fn785e198c7552ff25@mail.gmail.com> <200804300658.44284.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1209581179.549.120.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 06:58 +0200, JoergSimon wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 30. April 2008 06:00:10 schrieb ryan lerch: > > No, the embossing is not needed, in fact the IMO, the banners do look > > better with the normal logo, so i have changed the files on the wiki again > > to the normal fedora logo. > > Wow, this was fast!!! > Thanks Ryan, Thanks Mo for your help - fantastic! I put up a "Lernen Sie den Leitern" version too. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 19:03:39 2008 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:03:39 -0500 Subject: Group photo Message-ID: <4818C28B.6070804@gmail.com> I just had this little crazy idea based on my liking to see what people look like when I work with them. I was wondering if I could have permission to create a group photo of all the active members of the art team. It'd be a simple case of sending a preferred photo of yourself to me, and I'll create a composite of them all in The Gimp. Sort of like a "Meet your F9/F10 Fedora artists" thing. If you really prefer, you can opt out, but I think it'd be fun for everyone, as well as put names to faces. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Wed Apr 30 19:22:39 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:22:39 +0200 Subject: Fedora Web Banner for LinuxTag 2008 In-Reply-To: <1209581179.549.120.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200804291358.59852.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <200804300658.44284.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1209581179.549.120.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200804302122.43970.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Mittwoch, 30. April 2008 20:46:19 schrieb Paul W. Frields: > I put up a "Lernen Sie den Leitern" version too. Paul(Jack) of all Trades is a Artworker as well ;-) Thanks for helping us! We will decide which banner we will submit on this Friday - maybe we can animate all of them. "Lernen Sie den Leitern" this has no sence in German "Treffen Sie die F?hrer" - would be the better Translation. I like the "Meet the Leaders" Banner - this are words which are used in German as well. CU Joerg -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: From stickster at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 20:23:45 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:23:45 +0000 Subject: Fedora Web Banner for LinuxTag 2008 In-Reply-To: <200804302122.43970.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <200804291358.59852.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <200804300658.44284.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <1209581179.549.120.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200804302122.43970.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1209587025.549.140.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 21:22 +0200, JoergSimon wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 30. April 2008 20:46:19 schrieb Paul W. Frields: > > I put up a "Lernen Sie den Leitern" version too. > > Paul(Jack) of all Trades is a Artworker as well ;-) Thanks for helping us! We > will decide which banner we will submit on this Friday - maybe we can animate > all of them. > "Lernen Sie den Leitern" this has no sence in German "Treffen Sie die > F?hrer" - would be the better Translation. I like the "Meet the Leaders" > Banner - this are words which are used in German as well. Whoops, serves me right for being a smart-aleck. And using Google's translator. :-D -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: