From andyfitz at gmail.com Fri Aug 1 01:42:01 2008 From: andyfitz at gmail.com (Andy Fitzsimon) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:42:01 +0800 Subject: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release - update In-Reply-To: <1217521306.3044.80.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1216328136.3232.28.camel@pc-notebook> <1216402840.3232.36.camel@pc-notebook> <26011d820807182153s3693809buf534ca2a86d1fcc7@mail.gmail.com> <48842E91.7060009@nicubunu.ro> <1216640476.3734.7.camel@pc-notebook> <1217411955.3044.42.camel@pc-notebook> <1217521306.3044.80.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: I'm loving the frame shadow modes. awesome! slider and scrollbards could be rounder. but hey thats only my preference and is available in gtkrc. making those arrows darker and smaller would give the same balance. and maybe look a little neater.. your call either way .. great improvements in functionality. -Andy 2008/8/1 Martin Sourada : > Hi, > > I've just finished my Widget Factory mock-up for the MODERN style in > Nodoka 0.8.x. I also updated The Widget Factory mock-up for the CLASSIC > style. I'll probably make the updates also within the 0.7.x branch so > that Fedora 10 will also have some "refreshments". Now the only missing > one is the GLASSY one. Andy is working on it and I am looking forward to > the finished work. You can check all the designs at the usual place [1] > (SVGs are available at the bottom of the page), I also attach the MODERN > Widget Factory mock-up here. > > I did various improvements from the previous sketches, but I am still > not fully content with the scrollbar design and the arrows design. Any > ideas? > > Comments, suggestions, ... welcome :-) > > Thanks, > Martin > > PS: Final version (the real one) will probably make use of brighter > colours, but as I played with the current sketches in inkscape, it > somehow ended with those present in the mock-up :-D > > References: > [1] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/wiki/0.8.x_Brainstorm > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > From andyfitz at gmail.com Fri Aug 1 02:50:51 2008 From: andyfitz at gmail.com (Andy Fitzsimon) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:50:51 +0800 Subject: Does blue make you blue? In-Reply-To: <1217440366.3694.75.camel@victoria> References: <1217440366.3694.75.camel@victoria> Message-ID: Yes! I freakin love blue... especially when its green or red!. Andy #336699 > desktop theme (background) helps Fedora with its identity and branding? > Do you want to continue that for Fedora 10? From duffy at fedoraproject.org Fri Aug 1 03:54:34 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:54:34 -0400 Subject: Poster revision In-Reply-To: <1217418271.3694.18.camel@victoria> References: <1216923454.5114.86.camel@victoria> <488FD39C.5020106@fedoraproject.org> <48901762.6000301@nicubunu.ro> <1217418271.3694.18.camel@victoria> Message-ID: <489288FA.80809@fedoraproject.org> Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 10:25 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: >>> - a steamboat floating down a wide river towards a rising sun on the >>> horizon (open spaces, sun coming up, flowing water can all symbolize >>> great potential and/or freedom, I think) >> The steamboat is fading into the sunset, just like a movie ending "this >> is the beginning of a beautiful friendship" > > And the steamboat is flying a Fedora flag. In fact, all of the tableaux > feature a Fedora logo somehow -- and that's the only occurrence of blue > in any of the pictures. The rest of each picture is all that steampunky > sepia tone. Here's a start using photomanip. Maybe photomanip isn't the way to go though maybe a more comic-y style would be better. No Fedora flag yet and needs some cleanup: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/four-freedoms-steampunk/steamboat.jpg Source images: Delta Queen by Velo Steve, CC-Attribution http://flickr.com/photos/juniorvelo/482160982/ Early Light on the River by FreeWine, CC-Attribution http://flickr.com/photos/freewine/2432647532/sizes/l/ Cracked Concrete by Mairin, CC-Attribution http://flickr.com/photos/mairin/2609643770/sizes/o/in/set-72157605804091881/ The gimp XCF source is in the same directory... ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Aug 1 05:57:49 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 08:57:49 +0300 Subject: Poster revision In-Reply-To: <489288FA.80809@fedoraproject.org> References: <1216923454.5114.86.camel@victoria> <488FD39C.5020106@fedoraproject.org> <48901762.6000301@nicubunu.ro> <1217418271.3694.18.camel@victoria> <489288FA.80809@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4892A5DD.2050601@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Here's a start using photomanip. Maybe photomanip isn't the way to go > though maybe a more comic-y style would be better. No Fedora flag yet > and needs some cleanup: Yeah, I bet a lot of people would start screaming about that US flag, it really has to be replace until the final version (its OK in the sketch). > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/four-freedoms-steampunk/steamboat.jpg That's not bad at all, maybe move the boat a bit to the left? I agree about photomanip not being the best way to go, for printing posters (A3?) we would need hi-res images, more than is available usually on flickr (or maybe go for hunting photos with our own cameras? - not that easy) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Aug 1 07:39:00 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:39:00 +0200 Subject: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release - update In-Reply-To: References: <1216328136.3232.28.camel@pc-notebook> <1216402840.3232.36.camel@pc-notebook> <26011d820807182153s3693809buf534ca2a86d1fcc7@mail.gmail.com> <48842E91.7060009@nicubunu.ro> <1216640476.3734.7.camel@pc-notebook> <1217411955.3044.42.camel@pc-notebook> <1217521306.3044.80.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1217576340.25428.4.camel@pc-notebook> On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 09:42 +0800, Andy Fitzsimon wrote: > I'm loving the frame shadow modes. awesome! > > slider and scrollbards could be rounder. but hey thats only my > preference and is available in gtkrc. > > making those arrows darker and smaller would give the same balance. > and maybe look a little neater.. your call > either way .. great improvements in functionality. > > > -Andy Yeah I like the "full" rounded scrollbars better as well... I'll try out your suggestion for the arrows :-) Btw. How's the progress on your sketches? I blogged [1] yesterday about the three styles, but one of the png images you posted on flickr is not available today. Can you send me latest SVG(Z)? I'll generate and publish the PNG myself ;-) Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://mso-chronicles.blogspot.com/2008/07/nodoka-gtk-engine-08x-continuation.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: preference-system-date16d.svg Type: image/svg+xml Size: 45933 bytes Desc: not available URL: From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Aug 1 09:35:31 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:35:31 +0200 Subject: [Echo] preference-system-date sketches In-Reply-To: <4892D6C7.4090505@fedoraproject.org> References: <487471A1.9080203@fedoraproject.org> <1215642520.27713.29.camel@pc-notebook> <487DA39E.8050707@fedoraproject.org> <1216195480.2975.1.camel@pc-notebook> <487DB385.5030705@fedoraproject.org> <1216205376.2975.6.camel@pc-notebook> <488985C3.8070006@fedoraproject.org> <1217358431.3044.6.camel@pc-notebook> <4892D2A9.50006@fedoraproject.org> <1217581893.25428.9.camel@pc-notebook> <4892D6C7.4090505@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1217583331.25428.15.camel@pc-notebook> On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 02:26 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Version d for 16x16 > > Luya It's sharp now, although I still think the clock might be even bigger (subjective opinion). I have no further comments, you can upload it to git when you are ready :) You can try out the new tutorial I wrote: https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/AddingNewIconSet Btw. don't push the icons to 0.3.2.x branch - that was created simply for the sake of releasing a 0.3.2.1 bugfix release that fixed some issues with 0.3.2 and added icons that were omitted accidentally. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From luya at fedoraproject.org Fri Aug 1 10:56:11 2008 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:56:11 -0700 Subject: [Echo] preference-system-date sketches In-Reply-To: <1217583331.25428.15.camel@pc-notebook> References: <487471A1.9080203@fedoraproject.org> <1215642520.27713.29.camel@pc-notebook> <487DA39E.8050707@fedoraproject.org> <1216195480.2975.1.camel@pc-notebook> <487DB385.5030705@fedoraproject.org> <1216205376.2975.6.camel@pc-notebook> <488985C3.8070006@fedoraproject.org> <1217358431.3044.6.camel@pc-notebook> <4892D2A9.50006@fedoraproject.org> <1217581893.25428.9.camel@pc-notebook> <4892D6C7.4090505@fedoraproject.org> <1217583331.25428.15.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <4892EBCB.2020709@fedoraproject.org> Almost done except the fast-forward issue with 0.3.x branch. Luya From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Aug 1 11:25:04 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:25:04 +0200 Subject: [Echo] preference-system-date sketches In-Reply-To: <4892EBCB.2020709@fedoraproject.org> References: <487471A1.9080203@fedoraproject.org> <1215642520.27713.29.camel@pc-notebook> <487DA39E.8050707@fedoraproject.org> <1216195480.2975.1.camel@pc-notebook> <487DB385.5030705@fedoraproject.org> <1216205376.2975.6.camel@pc-notebook> <488985C3.8070006@fedoraproject.org> <1217358431.3044.6.camel@pc-notebook> <4892D2A9.50006@fedoraproject.org> <1217581893.25428.9.camel@pc-notebook> <4892D6C7.4090505@fedoraproject.org> <1217583331.25428.15.camel@pc-notebook> <4892EBCB.2020709@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1217589904.3225.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 03:56 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Almost done except the fast-forward issue with 0.3.x branch. > > Luya > hmm... $ git checkout 0.3.x $ git pull origin should work. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Aug 1 11:59:31 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:59:31 +0200 Subject: [Echo] preference-system-date sketches In-Reply-To: <4892EBCB.2020709@fedoraproject.org> References: <487471A1.9080203@fedoraproject.org> <1215642520.27713.29.camel@pc-notebook> <487DA39E.8050707@fedoraproject.org> <1216195480.2975.1.camel@pc-notebook> <487DB385.5030705@fedoraproject.org> <1216205376.2975.6.camel@pc-notebook> <488985C3.8070006@fedoraproject.org> <1217358431.3044.6.camel@pc-notebook> <4892D2A9.50006@fedoraproject.org> <1217581893.25428.9.camel@pc-notebook> <4892D6C7.4090505@fedoraproject.org> <1217583331.25428.15.camel@pc-notebook> <4892EBCB.2020709@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1217591971.3808.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 03:56 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Almost done except the fast-forward issue with 0.3.x branch. > > Luya > Btw. I just noticed you accidentally uploaded one of the blurry 16x16 version (IIRC version c instead of version d). Can you fix it? Thanks, Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From stickster at gmail.com Fri Aug 1 12:22:19 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 08:22:19 -0400 Subject: Poster revision In-Reply-To: <4892A5DD.2050601@nicubunu.ro> References: <1216923454.5114.86.camel@victoria> <488FD39C.5020106@fedoraproject.org> <48901762.6000301@nicubunu.ro> <1217418271.3694.18.camel@victoria> <489288FA.80809@fedoraproject.org> <4892A5DD.2050601@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1217593339.5431.11.camel@victoria> On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 08:57 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > > > Here's a start using photomanip. Maybe photomanip isn't the way to go > > though maybe a more comic-y style would be better. No Fedora flag yet > > and needs some cleanup: > > Yeah, I bet a lot of people would start screaming about that US flag, it > really has to be replace until the final version (its OK in the sketch). I think the idea would be to replace it with a shockingly blue Fedora flag, right? > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/four-freedoms-steampunk/steamboat.jpg > > That's not bad at all, maybe move the boat a bit to the left? > > I agree about photomanip not being the best way to go, for printing > posters (A3?) we would need hi-res images, more than is available > usually on flickr (or maybe go for hunting photos with our own cameras? > - not that easy) Especially steamboats! But this is a *really* cool image. :-) -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mlanglie at redhat.com Fri Aug 1 13:58:00 2008 From: mlanglie at redhat.com (Mike Langlie) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:58:00 -0400 Subject: Fedora People Account In-Reply-To: <489288FA.80809@fedoraproject.org> References: <1216923454.5114.86.camel@victoria> <488FD39C.5020106@fedoraproject.org> <48901762.6000301@nicubunu.ro> <1217418271.3694.18.camel@victoria> <489288FA.80809@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <48931668.7000201@redhat.com> Hi M?ir?n, Sorry for blowing off your offer to help me set up a Fedora People Account yesterday. I was in overdrive mode to get some things finished before a couple of calls with Tim and IPA. If you're available anytime today or next week could I get your help? I have my laptop here which I could bring over if that's more convenient. (Which I didn't have here yesterday, which would have made it even harder, ha.) Mike From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Aug 1 16:16:24 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:16:24 +0200 Subject: [Echo] git screencasts Message-ID: <1217607384.3043.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi, I've just recorded another screencast for the echo-icon-theme git repository how-to's. That makes two versions of the "Setting up the git repository" screencast (mkv+h264+ass subs and ogv+theora) and one version of "Adding new icons to git" [1]. As I am still new to this area I'd appreciate any feedback and suggestions what to do with the files next and which way is better - mkv+h264 or theora wherever (preferably in matroska as well) - and whether the subtitle commentary is desired. I also noticed that the ogv file causes a lot of problems, one being that rawhide totem complains of missing codecs, but plays it fine, another that mkvmerge fails to read the file and the same goes for avidemux. I tried renaming to ogm or ogg, and whereas both ogg and ogm fixes totem and enable nautilus to generate thumbnail, the other issues remain unchanged. It seems to me that the file header is incorrect. Since mplayer can play it, it is probably possible to fix these issues via mencoder, but I have zero experience with it. Any suggestions, ideas, advices? Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/screencasts/ PS: The matroska one was recorded with xvidcap (which however tends to freeze lately), re-encoded to h264 and put to matroska with avidemux, subtitles were done in subtitleeditor and merged with the video using mkvmerge-gui. The other two were recorded with gtk-recordmydesktop, no editing done. Everything was done in rawhide. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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As I am still new to this area > I'd appreciate any feedback and suggestions what to do with the files > next and which way is better - mkv+h264 or theora wherever (preferably > in matroska as well) - and whether the subtitle commentary is desired. Ogg/Vorbis/Theora is preferred. Most other formats have patent problems. I like the subtitles - they will be easier to translate than audio commentary. I'm not sure how you get subtitles into Ogg/Theora though. > I also noticed that the ogv file causes a lot of problems, one being > that rawhide totem complains of missing codecs, but plays it fine, > another that mkvmerge fails to read the file and the same goes for > avidemux. I tried renaming to ogm or ogg, and whereas both ogg and ogm > fixes totem and enable nautilus to generate thumbnail, the other issues > remain unchanged. It seems to me that the file header is incorrect. > Since mplayer can play it, it is probably possible to fix these issues > via mencoder, but I have zero experience with it. Record My Desktop seems to be adding a "skeleton" track to the Ogg file http://wiki.xiph.org/index.php/Ogg_Skeleton mplayer doesn't know what do do with a track of that type either but at least it doesn't throw up a annoying dialog. Jeff From luya at fedoraproject.org Fri Aug 1 17:43:22 2008 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:43:22 -0700 Subject: [Echo] preference-system-date sketches In-Reply-To: <1217589904.3225.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <487471A1.9080203@fedoraproject.org> <1215642520.27713.29.camel@pc-notebook> <487DA39E.8050707@fedoraproject.org> <1216195480.2975.1.camel@pc-notebook> <487DB385.5030705@fedoraproject.org> <1216205376.2975.6.camel@pc-notebook> <488985C3.8070006@fedoraproject.org> <1217358431.3044.6.camel@pc-notebook> <4892D2A9.50006@fedoraproject.org> <1217581893.25428.9.camel@pc-notebook> <4892D6C7.4090505@fedoraproject.org> <1217583331.25428.15.camel@pc-notebook> <4892EBCB.2020709@fedoraproject.org> <1217589904.3225.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <48934B3A.9040200@fedoraproject.org> Martin Sourada a ?crit : > hmm... > > $ git checkout 0.3.x > $ git pull origin > > should work. Do you have any errors with these commands? > > Martin > It worked. It looks like "git pull origin" only works for one branch. I wrongly assumed it applied for the whole. Luya From luya at fedoraproject.org Fri Aug 1 17:43:53 2008 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0700 Subject: [Echo] preference-system-date sketches In-Reply-To: <1217591971.3808.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <487471A1.9080203@fedoraproject.org> <1215642520.27713.29.camel@pc-notebook> <487DA39E.8050707@fedoraproject.org> <1216195480.2975.1.camel@pc-notebook> <487DB385.5030705@fedoraproject.org> <1216205376.2975.6.camel@pc-notebook> <488985C3.8070006@fedoraproject.org> <1217358431.3044.6.camel@pc-notebook> <4892D2A9.50006@fedoraproject.org> <1217581893.25428.9.camel@pc-notebook> <4892D6C7.4090505@fedoraproject.org> <1217583331.25428.15.camel@pc-notebook> <4892EBCB.2020709@fedoraproject.org> <1217591971.3808.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <48934B59.6050203@fedoraproject.org> Martin Sourada a ?crit : > > Btw. I just noticed you accidentally uploaded one of the blurry 16x16 > version (IIRC version c instead of version d). Can you fix it? > > Fixed. Luya -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Aug 1 18:45:46 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:45:46 +0200 Subject: [Echo] git screencasts In-Reply-To: <935ead450808011000m7eeccb35y8c5fd2ecbedeee75@mail.gmail.com> References: <1217607384.3043.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <935ead450808011000m7eeccb35y8c5fd2ecbedeee75@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1217616346.3329.5.camel@pc-notebook> On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 12:00 -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > Ogg/Vorbis/Theora is preferred. Most other formats have patent > problems. I like the subtitles - they will be easier to translate > than audio commentary. I'm not sure how you get subtitles into > Ogg/Theora though. > Basically matroska [1] is IMHO another good option (it's in fedora repos, is open both as in beer and bird, is not patent encumbered and can contain literally anything) for the container (instead of ogg/ogm/ogv) and we can add subtitles to it pretty easy (mkvmerge usually does good job in that). Martin References: [1] http://www.matroska.org/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Fri Aug 1 21:41:57 2008 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gian Paolo Mureddu) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:41:57 -0500 Subject: [Echo] git screencasts In-Reply-To: <1217607384.3043.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1217607384.3043.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <48938325.7000703@prodigy.net.mx> Martin Sourada escribi?: > Hi, > > I've just recorded another screencast for the echo-icon-theme git > repository how-to's. That makes two versions of the "Setting up the git > repository" screencast (mkv+h264+ass subs and ogv+theora) and one > version of "Adding new icons to git" [1]. As I am still new to this area > I'd appreciate any feedback and suggestions what to do with the files > next and which way is better - mkv+h264 or theora wherever (preferably > in matroska as well) - and whether the subtitle commentary is desired. > > I also noticed that the ogv file causes a lot of problems, one being > that rawhide totem complains of missing codecs, but plays it fine, > another that mkvmerge fails to read the file and the same goes for > avidemux. I tried renaming to ogm or ogg, and whereas both ogg and ogm > fixes totem and enable nautilus to generate thumbnail, the other issues > remain unchanged. It seems to me that the file header is incorrect. > Since mplayer can play it, it is probably possible to fix these issues > via mencoder, but I have zero experience with it. > > Any suggestions, ideas, advices? > > Thanks, > Martin > > References: > [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/screencasts/ > > PS: The matroska one was recorded with xvidcap (which however tends to > freeze lately), re-encoded to h264 and put to matroska with avidemux, > subtitles were done in subtitleeditor and merged with the video using > mkvmerge-gui. The other two were recorded with gtk-recordmydesktop, no > editing done. Everything was done in rawhide. > So the Matroska is encoded into h264 or theora encapsulated into the mkv (would that even be possible to do?) From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Aug 1 21:51:35 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:51:35 +0200 Subject: [Echo] git screencasts In-Reply-To: <48938325.7000703@prodigy.net.mx> References: <1217607384.3043.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <48938325.7000703@prodigy.net.mx> Message-ID: <1217627495.3329.6.camel@pc-notebook> On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 16:41 -0500, Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote: > Martin Sourada escribi?: > So the Matroska is encoded into h264 or theora encapsulated into the mkv > (would that even be possible to do?) It's h264 in Matroska, but AFAIK it's possible to use Theora in Matroska. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From poelstra at redhat.com Fri Aug 1 22:37:27 2008 From: poelstra at redhat.com (John Poelstra) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:37:27 -0700 Subject: help with feature process diagram Message-ID: <48939027.1060000@redhat.com> Is there someone here that could help me re-factor this diagram into something that uses the page area a little better and uses the color palette in a pleasing way? :) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Process https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Features_Policy_feature-process-flow.odg I'd prefer to keep it in oodraw or inkscape so I can make changes myself in the future if necessary. Thanks, John From jeff at ocjtech.us Sat Aug 2 01:02:29 2008 From: jeff at ocjtech.us (Jeffrey Ollie) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:02:29 -0500 Subject: [Echo] git screencasts In-Reply-To: <1217616346.3329.5.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1217607384.3043.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <935ead450808011000m7eeccb35y8c5fd2ecbedeee75@mail.gmail.com> <1217616346.3329.5.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <935ead450808011802r6a8700fcx5ba60a77b44849ce@mail.gmail.com> 2008/8/1 Martin Sourada : > On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 12:00 -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: >> Ogg/Vorbis/Theora is preferred. Most other formats have patent >> problems. I like the subtitles - they will be easier to translate >> than audio commentary. I'm not sure how you get subtitles into >> Ogg/Theora though. >> > Basically matroska [1] is IMHO another good option (it's in fedora > repos, is open both as in beer and bird, is not patent encumbered and > can contain literally anything) for the container (instead of > ogg/ogm/ogv) and we can add subtitles to it pretty easy (mkvmerge > usually does good job in that). I think that the native Ogg/Theora/Vorbis support coming in FireFox gives us a lot of incentive to not use anything else. Jeff From gort.klaatu at gmail.com Sat Aug 2 01:06:57 2008 From: gort.klaatu at gmail.com (Klaatu and Gort) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:06:57 -0700 Subject: help with feature process diagram In-Reply-To: <48939027.1060000@redhat.com> References: <48939027.1060000@redhat.com> Message-ID: John I'm working on this now but there seem to be two different versions of the diagram. I'm assuming it's the one immediately visible after clicking on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Process but I'd like your confirmation on this before I get too far along on it. -klaatu On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:37 PM, John Poelstra wrote: > Is there someone here that could help me re-factor this diagram into > something that uses the page area a little better and uses the color palette > in a pleasing way? :) > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Process > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Features_Policy_feature-process-flow.odg > > I'd prefer to keep it in oodraw or inkscape so I can make changes myself in > the future if necessary. > > Thanks, > John > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- --- uzu linukso. subtenu libera programaro. kotizu al http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml http://www.thebadapples.info/fedorareloaded/ogg.xml -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.sourada at gmail.com Sat Aug 2 07:15:11 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:15:11 +0200 Subject: [Echo] git screencasts In-Reply-To: <935ead450808011802r6a8700fcx5ba60a77b44849ce@mail.gmail.com> References: <1217607384.3043.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <935ead450808011000m7eeccb35y8c5fd2ecbedeee75@mail.gmail.com> <1217616346.3329.5.camel@pc-notebook> <935ead450808011802r6a8700fcx5ba60a77b44849ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1217661311.15610.9.camel@pc-notebook> On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 20:02 -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > 2008/8/1 Martin Sourada : > I think that the native Ogg/Theora/Vorbis support coming in FireFox > gives us a lot of incentive to not use anything else. > IMHO that's a bad step. I applaud them for supporting Theora, Vorbis and Ogg but they should support as many *open* formats/containers as possible. Especially given that mkv is much more robust for videos than Ogg and has wide support through many HW/SW platforms. IIRC WebKit-gtk handles