Ideas and wining

Ben Hamment fisix at fedoraproject.org
Fri Aug 15 16:59:26 UTC 2008


I tried to make my wallpapers simple as i think this is important when
using the desktop and makes it easy to see files etc.
As i joined at a later stage it would be handy for me to have an
overview on the decisions which have been made for example i am unsure
if the gears theme is definate or can a try to come up with new ideas.
I started an idea wich i couldnt get to work visualy well ,using 2
gears and a belt to create the infinity effect.....maybe someone could
use this better. Thanx

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>    1. gears ideas (Ben Hamment)
>    2. Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears (Nicu Buculei)
>    3. Re: gears ideas (Nicu Buculei)
>    4. Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears (Matthias Clasen)
>    5. Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears (M?ir?n Duffy)
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> From: "Ben Hamment" <fisix at fedoraproject.org>
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> Ive been playing with a few ideas
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Gears_draft_copy.png
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Gears_2_draft_2_copy.png
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Gears_2_draft_copy.png
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> let me know what you think.
> also it would be handy to know the dimensions for the artwork required.
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> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:20:25 +0300
> From: Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro>
> Subject: Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
> To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including
> 	icons,	themes, and wallpapers." <fedora-art-list at redhat.com>
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> Máirín Duffy wrote:
>> Well here's another couple iterations:
>>
>> I made this weird gear gadget thingy (modeled after watch internals)
>> using Nicu's gears and some custom other thingys:
>> http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3c.png
>>
>>
>>
>> Also liked how the background was a bit more subtle behind it so I made
>> a copy without the weird watch thing:
>> http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3d.png
>>
>
> I like better the simple version, without the additional gear.
> I also think this time the "gold" is almost right (I as not that happy
> with it in the previous iterations).
>
> --
> nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com
> Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/
> Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org
> my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:38:51 +0300
> From: Nicu Buculei <nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro>
> Subject: Re: gears ideas
> To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including
> 	icons,	themes, and wallpapers." <fedora-art-list at redhat.com>
> Message-ID: <48A5247B.2070909 at nicubunu.ro>
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> Ben Hamment wrote:
>> Ive been playing with a few ideas
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Gears_draft_copy.png
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Gears_2_draft_2_copy.png
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Gears_2_draft_copy.png
>>
>> let me know what you think.
>
> I think they are a bit simplistic, see how Mo added various textures:
> http://mihmo.livejournal.com/60026.html
>
>> also it would be handy to know the dimensions for the artwork required.
>
> Do you work with vectors, right? (the images above look like Inkscape).
> Then the size does not really matter, aspect ratio is the key (and at
> this stage we can safely work at small resolutions, for speed and ease
> of use).
>
> In the final version we will need 4 or 5 image sizes, for various aspect
> ratios, like 1920x1200, 1600x1200, 1280x1024 and whatever else we decide
> is needed at the moment (800x480 for first gen ultra portables?)
>
> --
> nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com
> Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/
> Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org
> my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:46:27 -0400
> From: Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
> To: Discussions about the artwork "included with Fedora, including
> 	icons,	themes, and wallpapers." <fedora-art-list at redhat.com>
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> On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 01:18 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>> Máirín Duffy wrote:
>> > Maybe they could be made more sparse for the desktop but dense for the
>> > banners/splashes for the rest of the artwork set?
>> >
>> > Or maybe we could have another focus besides just gear cogs?
>>
>> Well here's another couple iterations:
>>
>> I made this weird gear gadget thingy (modeled after watch internals)
>> using Nicu's gears and some custom other thingys:
>> http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3c.png
>>
>> Also liked how the background was a bit more subtle behind it so I made
>> a copy without the weird watch thing:
>> http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3d.png
>>
>> I also attached the SVG source for the new gear arrangement.
>
> Not that my voice counts much, but I must say that I liked the earlier
> monochromatic (blue) version much better. I've used it for a few days
> now, and it is very nice.
>
>
> Matthias
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:10:27 -0400
> From: M?ir?n Duffy <duffy at fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: [F10 themes: round 2] Gears: lot of gears
> To: "Discussions about the artwork included with Fedora, including
> 	icons,	themes, and wallpapers." <fedora-art-list at redhat.com>
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> Matthias Clasen wrote:
>> On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 01:18 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>>> Máirín Duffy wrote:
>>>> Maybe they could be made more sparse for the desktop but dense for the
>>>> banners/splashes for the rest of the artwork set?
>>>>
>>>> Or maybe we could have another focus besides just gear cogs?
>>> Well here's another couple iterations:
>>>
>>> I made this weird gear gadget thingy (modeled after watch internals)
>>> using Nicu's gears and some custom other thingys:
>>> http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3c.png
>>>
>>> Also liked how the background was a bit more subtle behind it so I made
>>> a copy without the weird watch thing:
>>> http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/mairinduffy/gears-blueswirl_steampunk3d.png
>>>
>>> I also attached the SVG source for the new gear arrangement.
>>
>> Not that my voice counts much, but I must say that I liked the earlier
>> monochromatic (blue) version much better. I've used it for a few days
>> now, and it is very nice.
>
> I actually really liked that one better as a wallpaper too, and I think
> it may be a better style for a default Fedora wallpaper because it's so
> blue. However the problem is that as soon as we tint the gears blue,
> people complain it's "too KDE."
>
> I'm not sure how to get around that, because even though I disagree that
> it's "KDE", that perception is not something I think we want and enough
> people have made comments to that effect that I think we're going to get
> that unless we modify that version of the wallpaper somehow.
>
> My only ideas are different coloring (which I tried above but I think it
> doesn't seem as suitable for a wallpaper) or if some additional widgets
> can be integrated into it so the gears are just one type of object in
> the design, maybe there won't be such a strong association with KDE. I'm
> not sure what though. Maybe gears at all different angles and other
> things you'd see inside a watch like Robin suggested earlier. Another
> idea I had was maybe to create some kind of abstract steampunky object,
> kind of like these steampunk jewelry pieces [1] and have that as a focal
> point along the right bottom of the wallpaper.
>
> ~m
>
> [1] http://www.greatgreengoods.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/steampunk.jpg
>
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