From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Feb 1 07:25:01 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 09:25:01 +0200 Subject: Round 2 reminder Message-ID: <47A2C94D.9060807@nicubunu.ro> The current deadline for Round 2 is less than one week away, February 5th. Recently we had some theming activity, but most proposals from Round 1 are still unmodified and not enough polished for Round 2 and none has all the required graphics (wallpaper and 3 supporting artworks: vertical, horizontal, square). So there are a few days remaining to work on themes you care about to make them apt for Round 2. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Feb 1 08:49:59 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:49:59 +0200 Subject: new tshirts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47A2DD37.20603@nicubunu.ro> I decided to break the ice and upload to the wiki page a very simple generic design (monochrome, to save the price as much as possible), take it as a challenge to show your designs too: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt I also put on the page a couple of blank shirt templates (mane tshirt and polo), with SVG sources, which can be used to create a realistic preview of the final work, use them. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 09:32:00 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 10:32:00 +0100 Subject: Transparency :) In-Reply-To: <604aa7910801311128q1e2faf8cxfa3ccbb9dff6d0b9@mail.gmail.com> References: <479C9B02.8090700@gmail.com> <1201459710.2258.4.camel@geeko> <64b14b300801271258j39de894cw12b1ed181b17a677@mail.gmail.com> <1201468039.2531.0.camel@geeko> <64b14b300801271532te7b68d5t71bac5f90b392d95@mail.gmail.com> <1201499306.2849.2.camel@geeko> <479DE5F9.50305@redhat.com> <479E487E.1060707@gmail.com> <604aa7910801311128q1e2faf8cxfa3ccbb9dff6d0b9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <64b14b300802010132x791a9b76s57687338035c3ac@mail.gmail.com> On Jan 31, 2008 8:28 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Jan 28, 2008 12:26 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > > I wasn't trying to be rude or disrespectfully to gnome or gnome > > developers. I was just wondering about gnome. > > Here's the problem with wondering aloud about gnome development on a > list this is not about gnome development. You only encourage the > wrong sort of answers... uninformed answers. > > You need to take responsibility for the questions you ask and where > you ask them. > > In the future, questions regarding suitability of patches need to be > asked in the context of the upstream project. Not in a mailing list > for artists. And please refrain from feeding the trolls. It's very > easy to get stuck in a conversation with someone who has no real > constructive information which aids your purpose, if you are talking > about something in the wrong list. Its one thing to point something > out because it looks cool and you want other people to know about. Its > quite another to have a back and forth discussion about technical > suitability that are out of scope. Any information obtained in such a > draw out discussion is suspect, wasting your time and enthusiasm. > > -jef Thank you Jeff for clearing that out, I'll watch out next time. Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 18:29:28 2008 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:29:28 -0600 Subject: Round 2 reminder In-Reply-To: <47A2C94D.9060807@nicubunu.ro> References: <47A2C94D.9060807@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47A36508.2050605@gmail.com> I still have some stuff in the works for this but may have to get them submitted in at the last second due to working a lot of nights this weekend. I haven't forgotten nonetheless Nicu Buculei wrote: > The current deadline for Round 2 is less than one week away, February > 5th. > > Recently we had some theming activity, but most proposals from Round 1 > are still unmodified and not enough polished for Round 2 and none has > all the required graphics (wallpaper and 3 supporting artworks: > vertical, horizontal, square). > So there are a few days remaining to work on themes you care about to > make them apt for Round 2. > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From duffy at redhat.com Sat Feb 2 06:46:31 2008 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:46:31 -0500 Subject: new tshirts In-Reply-To: <47A2DD37.20603@nicubunu.ro> References: <47A2DD37.20603@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47A411C7.9090509@redhat.com> Hey Nicu! Nicu Buculei wrote: > I decided to break the ice and upload to the wiki page a very simple > generic design (monochrome, to save the price as much as possible), take > it as a challenge to show your designs too: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt > > I also put on the page a couple of blank shirt templates (mane tshirt > and polo), with SVG sources, which can be used to create a realistic > preview of the final work, use them. Great idea, thanks for setting this page up! The templates look really good. I just designed and uploaded a couple of FUDcon Boston tshirt ideas: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt#head-ab1701a84d5363f4c78ff3065420cea52600e4a0 ~m From gerold at lugd.org Sat Feb 2 09:03:35 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:03:35 +0100 Subject: new tshirts In-Reply-To: <47A411C7.9090509@redhat.com> References: <47A2DD37.20603@nicubunu.ro> <47A411C7.9090509@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1201943015.3468.5.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Hi, please excuse, but I have a basicly question because of the logo which is shown on the page ... Have we changed it in that way like Nico did, or did I miss that part? If not, I'll ask if its allowed to do so, manipulating a given "brand" ... I only want to ask, nothing more Thanks Gerold Am Samstag, den 02.02.2008, 01:46 -0500 schrieb M?ir?n Duffy: > Hey Nicu! > > Nicu Buculei wrote: > > I decided to break the ice and upload to the wiki page a very simple > > generic design (monochrome, to save the price as much as possible), take > > it as a challenge to show your designs too: > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt > > > > I also put on the page a couple of blank shirt templates (mane tshirt > > and polo), with SVG sources, which can be used to create a realistic > > preview of the final work, use them. > > Great idea, thanks for setting this page up! The templates look really > good. I just designed and uploaded a couple of FUDcon Boston tshirt ideas: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt#head-ab1701a84d5363f4c78ff3065420cea52600e4a0 > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I made a small mockup with some random light blue and she added that #76b7f7 would be a really good color. That color would be fine with both, the standard and the white type logo. We'd both prefer the white logo on that background, tho. I attached the mockup featuring that specific background/polo-shirt color and both logos. She also advised to check what colors the supplier can provide for polo shirts. If we'll just ask for a specific color we might end up getting shirts in a different color otherwise. Or to better stick with white or black since the supplier can't screw up those colors. The color for the ambassador shirts was perfect, tho. That's a good sign, isn't it? --- mizmo requested to CC the art team with what we're discussing here since they're the ones that: a) are good with colors, logos and stuff b) are asked about such stuff if anyone else want to do something similar. According to her there's been questions to the art list about the ambassadors polo shirts, too. We should share our final results with the ambassadors, marketing and art lists in order that others can profit from our efforts. --- I hope I didn't forget anything. Opinions on anything of that? Do we stick with light blue now? Joerg: can the polo shirt supplier provide any specific color? Best regards red JoergSimon wrote: > Am Sonntag, 3. Februar 2008 11:31:22 schrieb Gerold Kassube: >> SWAG >> ==== >> - Polo-Shirt hellblaues Polo-Shirt zum verkaufen?? [SELL] >> == this means, remember our blue Ambassador Shirt; the same Shirt, the >> same quality but in the lighter blue and without the stich as "Fedora >> Ambassador" on the arm. > > I like the Idea to produce Poloshirts that visitors can buy. I am sure they > will buy it. > My suggestion is to use dark grey color (attached) instead lighter(baby)blue > for the PoloShirts because the only Blue Background for the Fedora Logo must > be Pantone ? 2935 - thats the reason why the Ambassador Polos have that blue > color. > I will make a darkgrey Prototype to present it to the Linuxtagpeople at Fosdem > and if the people like it - we will see - ok? > > > CU Joerg > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Linuxtag-Fedora mailing list > Linuxtag-Fedora at fedora.rootfiles.net > https://www.rootfiles.net/mailman/listinfo/linuxtag-fedora -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: logo_on_76b7f7.png Type: image/png Size: 9641 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Feb 4 07:48:35 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:48:35 +0200 Subject: new tshirts In-Reply-To: <1201943015.3468.5.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> References: <47A2DD37.20603@nicubunu.ro> <47A411C7.9090509@redhat.com> <1201943015.3468.5.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> Message-ID: <47A6C353.8000904@nicubunu.ro> Gerold Kassube wrote: > > please excuse, but I have a basicly question because of the logo which > is shown on the page ... > Have we changed it in that way like Nico did, or did I miss that part? > If not, I'll ask if its allowed to do so, manipulating a given > "brand" ... It was my own unauthorized modification. Feel free to beat me over my head with the logo usage guidelines :p and remove the submission if I was wrong. My idea was to provide a version for the cheapest possible printing, with just one single color (the printing price is directly related to the number of colors). Maybe I'll try an alternate version using some kind of dithering for light blue. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From gerold at lugd.org Mon Feb 4 08:07:28 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:07:28 +0100 (CET) Subject: new tshirts In-Reply-To: <47A6C353.8000904@nicubunu.ro> References: <47A2DD37.20603@nicubunu.ro> <47A411C7.9090509@redhat.com> <1201943015.3468.5.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <47A6C353.8000904@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <3250.217.162.12.42.1202112448.squirrel@www.gbc.net> *bang**bang**bang* Nicu, you're one of the guys who do a lot of and imho great work for us ... I don't want to beat you down :-) As written; I only wondered, see that modification of the logo and thought I missed something; what can really happen (why not?) *g* So feel free and modify again; you're Art-Team, me is only a small German Ambassador who needs some times a lot of things from the Art-Team Wish you a nice week-start Gerold > Gerold Kassube wrote: >> >> please excuse, but I have a basicly question because of the logo which >> is shown on the page ... >> Have we changed it in that way like Nico did, or did I miss that part? >> If not, I'll ask if its allowed to do so, manipulating a given >> "brand" ... > > It was my own unauthorized modification. Feel free to beat me over my > head with the logo usage guidelines :p and remove the submission if I > was wrong. > > My idea was to provide a version for the cheapest possible printing, > with just one single color (the printing price is directly related to > the number of colors). Maybe I'll try an alternate version using some > kind of dithering for light blue. > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > From gerold at lugd.org Mon Feb 4 08:12:50 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:12:50 +0100 (CET) Subject: Art-Work for Sulphur - Fedora 9 In-Reply-To: <47A6C353.8000904@nicubunu.ro> References: <47A2DD37.20603@nicubunu.ro> <47A411C7.9090509@redhat.com> <1201943015.3468.5.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <47A6C353.8000904@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <3280.217.162.12.42.1202112770.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Hi there, I want to ask if there is a draft of creating a "technical" "chemical" Art-Work of the new version of Fedora like the "abstract" of the Rutherford atomic-model or the Bohrsches Atomic-modell of Sulphur ... Personally I mention that this can look quite good. do you agree? Or do we have other ideas? regards gerold From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 4 08:32:54 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:32:54 +0100 Subject: [Linuxtag-fedora] (Swag for) Linuxtag In-Reply-To: <47A68EBE.9050709@fedoraproject.org> References: <1202034682.14314.62.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <200802031830.43702.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <47A68EBE.9050709@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <200802040933.52717.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Am Montag, 4. Februar 2008 05:04:14 schrieb Sandro "red" Mathys: > Joerg: can the polo shirt supplier provide any specific color? http://www.santafetex.com/Pique-Polo/9,1,25,68227,1.html -- J?rg Simon jsimon at fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We don't have an official single color version of the logo already? -jef From jakub.rusinek at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 15:31:28 2008 From: jakub.rusinek at gmail.com (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:31:28 +0100 Subject: echo icons should not be provided with fedora by default / echo cannot be the default icon set Message-ID: <47A72FD0.1070606@gmail.com> hi, you know my opinion about echo: * it causes mixing of tangoish style and echo, because of well used tango style and lack of icon in echo * they are not complete and they cannot cover some icons because of hardcoded pixmaps (not to accept is hardcoding echo instead of fixing that) * echo looks like childs play that was my subjective opinion. now some facts (0.3.1-1.fc8): * blurry gedit * blurry gcalctool * non-echo gnome-screenshot * non-echo dictionary * non-echo file-roller * non-echo sound-juicer * non-echo gimp * non-echo inkscape * non-echo gconf-editor * non-echo nautilus * non-echo gnome-mount * non-echo prefferred apps * non-echo keyboard prefs * non-echo appearance * non-echo windows * non-echo personal file sharing * non-echo date and time * non-echo screen * non-echo root's password * non-echo neat-control (network interfaces control tool) * non-echo grub configuration tool * non-echo services * non-echo authorization * non-echo users and groups * non-echo sound * non-echo firewall * non-echo lvm * non-echo gtk-help * non-echo gtk-close * no svgs * low visibility of panel volume icons * too much of transparency in system-search/whatever it is what I want you to tell? we cannot use that icons, becase we'll be mixing styles (that's a fact you must understand). even if you can stand on your head, you cannot change this. fedora should follow new fashion of tangoish artwork and should provide tangoish icons where possible to make its configuration tools integrate better with gnome (because without rewriting they'll never be kde-compiliant). why icons are *so* important? because "love at first sight" may occur. also, have you even seen ubuntu... ie. hardy heron? it also mixes styles and don't look so good with this... but ubuntu is not mixing *perspectives* as fedora is gonna do. people are happy that fedora has used tangoish icons - they said "it looks so modern" etc. hylke bons said that in one of his entries. should we dissapoint them with incomplete bluecurve-inherited bluecurve replacement? i don't think so. tango guidelines are well know. their pallette may look dirty, but it's yet vibrant and looks good on both dark and light backgrounds. thanks to the border (part of tango guidelines). echo contains slight borders, slight gradient and too big contrast of colors. i said before, that i think that echo in tango styl would look interesting and modern, but didn't heard me. also, you wanted to show some examples of echo's issues. i've shown them to you, but you haven't even answered me... ignorance? fedora is not brought only to you, but to all. i want you to see the nonsense of echo. From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Feb 4 17:06:51 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:06:51 +0200 Subject: new tshirts In-Reply-To: <604aa7910802040838o624ad9u5c4cffb9518fdba@mail.gmail.com> References: <47A2DD37.20603@nicubunu.ro> <47A411C7.9090509@redhat.com> <1201943015.3468.5.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <47A6C353.8000904@nicubunu.ro> <604aa7910802040838o624ad9u5c4cffb9518fdba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47A7462B.2090209@nicubunu.ro> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Feb 3, 2008 10:48 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> My idea was to provide a version for the cheapest possible printing, >> with just one single color (the printing price is directly related to >> the number of colors). Maybe I'll try an alternate version using some >> kind of dithering for light blue. > > We don't have an official single color version of the logo already? Nope - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines The closest we have is "black and white", but that is not single color, is black and gray. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From jsimon at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 4 21:38:43 2008 From: jsimon at fedoraproject.org (JoergSimon) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:38:43 +0100 Subject: Generic Posterdesign Message-ID: <200802042238.49379.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Hi, the Februrary/March is the time of many events in Europe (FOSDEM, CLT, OpenExpo, FOD2008) On Linuxtag2007 we produced some huge textile banner and generic Fedora Posters. The Banners worked well, but the generic Posters not, because the visitors (and to be honest i also) did?nt like it very much. http://jsimon.fedorapeople.org/lt07/img058.jpeg http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Posters We think the blue area is to big for a Poster. Now we decided on FAD2007, that we need generic Posters http://jsimon.fedorapeople.org/FAD3.pdf (10MB) written somewhere on Page27 - we want print them on robust rubber foil (don?t know if this the right word) so we can use it more often and not only for one release. So here is my question, could you provide us a generic Posterdesign for Size A0? Who is able to make a generic Poster template till 12.02.08? 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URL: From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Tue Feb 5 05:54:16 2008 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:54:16 -0500 Subject: Withdrawal of Fedora Theme contest Message-ID: <1202190856.47a7fa0855fe5@ssl.mecca.ca> Due to a busy schedule from graphic design classes, I regret to announce the withdrawal of the contest thus giving more rooms for other contestants. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga From duffy at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 5 06:13:27 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:13:27 -0500 Subject: Extension? (was Re: Withdrawal of Fedora Theme contest) In-Reply-To: <1202190856.47a7fa0855fe5@ssl.mecca.ca> References: <1202190856.47a7fa0855fe5@ssl.mecca.ca> Message-ID: <47A7FE87.9070004@fedoraproject.org> Hi folks, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Due to a busy schedule from graphic design classes, I regret to announce the > withdrawal of the contest thus giving more rooms for other contestants. I am wondering if a week extension would be useful for folks who are still busily working on round 2? (I know it would be a big help to me :) ) We did this for the F8 theme too and saw good results from the extension. What do folks think? ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Feb 5 07:14:02 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:14:02 +0200 Subject: Extension? (was Re: Withdrawal of Fedora Theme contest) In-Reply-To: <47A7FE87.9070004@fedoraproject.org> References: <1202190856.47a7fa0855fe5@ssl.mecca.ca> <47A7FE87.9070004@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47A80CBA.8060303@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > I am wondering if a week extension would be useful for folks who are > still busily working on round 2? (I know it would be a big help to me :) > ) We did this for the F8 theme too and saw good results from the > extension. What do folks think? It does make sense, today is the last day and we don't have even *one* submission ready for Round 2. We can use the small delay in the Alpha schedule as an excuse for our extension... But a serious question: if people have not worked on their themes for one full month, will they work in one additional week? Maybe something is broken with the 3 rounds process and we should fix it for the future releases? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch Mon Feb 4 14:19:17 2008 From: red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch (red_alert at the-psychiatry.ch) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:19:17 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Linuxtag-fedora] (Swag for) Linuxtag In-Reply-To: <200802040933.52717.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> References: <1202034682.14314.62.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <200802031830.43702.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> <47A68EBE.9050709@fedoraproject.org> <200802040933.52717.jsimon@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <529865691.353731202134757694.JavaMail.open-xchange@ox2> Thank you for the link. According to the supplier's page, we need to change the light blue a little. See the new mockup attached. I reckon this still looks neat with the white type logo. Art team: please CC me if you're responding to our list. The list will bounce non-member mails and I'm not sure if anyone will wave them through. Regards red JoergSimon hat am 4. Februar 2008 um 09:32 geschrieben: > Am Montag, 4. Februar 2008 05:04:14 schrieb Sandro "red" Mathys: > > Joerg: can the polo shirt supplier provide any specific color? > > http://www.santafetex.com/Pique-Polo/9,1,25,68227,1.html > > -- > J?rg Simon > jsimon at fedoraproject.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon > Key Fingerprint: > 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: logo_on_7dafd3.png Type: image/png Size: 9735 bytes Desc: not available URL: From duffy at redhat.com Mon Feb 4 16:46:16 2008 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 11:46:16 -0500 Subject: new tshirts In-Reply-To: <604aa7910802040838o624ad9u5c4cffb9518fdba@mail.gmail.com> References: <47A2DD37.20603@nicubunu.ro> <47A411C7.9090509@redhat.com> <1201943015.3468.5.camel@F8NB.homenet.local> <47A6C353.8000904@nicubunu.ro> <604aa7910802040838o624ad9u5c4cffb9518fdba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47A74158.8020803@redhat.com> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Feb 3, 2008 10:48 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> It was my own unauthorized modification. Feel free to beat me over my >> head with the logo usage guidelines :p and remove the submission if I >> was wrong. >> >> My idea was to provide a version for the cheapest possible printing, >> with just one single color (the printing price is directly related to >> the number of colors). Maybe I'll try an alternate version using some >> kind of dithering for light blue. > > We don't have an official single color version of the logo already? Nope, there is no official version of a single color Fedora logo. We have a black and white version but it's really black, white, and grey. The version that Nicu came up with is really the only possible way to make the Fedora logo one-color. If there should be an official one-color version I would say Nicu's should be it, however, whenever possible I think we should avoid it just because it's easier to make out the 'f' in at least two colors. ~m From duffy at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 5 07:25:55 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:25:55 -0500 Subject: Extension? (was Re: Withdrawal of Fedora Theme contest) In-Reply-To: <47A80CBA.8060303@nicubunu.ro> References: <1202190856.47a7fa0855fe5@ssl.mecca.ca> <47A7FE87.9070004@fedoraproject.org> <47A80CBA.8060303@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47A80F83.30100@fedoraproject.org> Hey Nicu, Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> >> I am wondering if a week extension would be useful for folks who are >> still busily working on round 2? (I know it would be a big help to me >> :) ) We did this for the F8 theme too and saw good results from the >> extension. What do folks think? > > It does make sense, today is the last day and we don't have even *one* > submission ready for Round 2. We can use the small delay in the Alpha > schedule as an excuse for our extension... > > But a serious question: if people have not worked on their themes for > one full month, will they work in one additional week? > Maybe something is broken with the 3 rounds process and we should fix it > for the future releases? My excuse is vacation and then being super busy having to catch up after vacation :( I think maybe we haven't publicized / simply talked about the rounds enough this time. The back and forth conversation does help to remind and motivate folks I think. I do feel partially responsible and I've been quite glad you've picked up the slack with mailing list deadline reminders and blog posts. When we pushed back a week for F8, we did get a lot of additional work in that week so I think it's worth a shot. So I do think it can be effective. Some good news, I think Waves is almost ready to meet the round 2 requirements. There was an earlier idea of linking sulphur to the waves to match the f9 codename so I have been working on some mockups of this. It just needs an accompanying wallpaper: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-98516747c8faef74057e3963e09f522ba7a3ca7b They do need some further refinement of course but I think they are developed enough to get a feel for what it would look like. One worry I have is maybe it is just too dark? But maybe a lighter wallpaper to go along with it would make the darkness a little easier to take? Maybe it should use dark blue instead of grey? I'm not sure. Any ideas? ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Feb 5 07:49:57 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:49:57 +0200 Subject: Extension? (was Re: Withdrawal of Fedora Theme contest) In-Reply-To: <47A80F83.30100@fedoraproject.org> References: <1202190856.47a7fa0855fe5@ssl.mecca.ca> <47A7FE87.9070004@fedoraproject.org> <47A80CBA.8060303@nicubunu.ro> <47A80F83.30100@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47A81525.3010904@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > My excuse is vacation and then being super busy having to catch up after > vacation :( I think maybe we haven't publicized / simply talked about > the rounds enough this time. The back and forth conversation does help > to remind and motivate folks I think. I do feel partially responsible > and I've been quite glad you've picked up the slack with mailing list > deadline reminders and blog posts. And I was busy with some personal projects involving clipart and tutorials, but the thing is the process should not be blocked by a temporary lack of availability from you, me or some other person. Some of the people with proposals in Round 1 have blogs and their blogs are aggregated to planet Fedora, nobody posted updates there and on the list, AFAIK, only Mola and that was one single time. Like they abandoned the work after Round 1. > When we pushed back a week for F8, we did get a lot of additional work > in that week so I think it's worth a shot. So I do think it can be > effective. And this may be a problem. You personally "saved" Infinity in its last week, if we need to save "Waves" in the last week too, maybe we should rethink the schedule or the process for F10. > Some good news, I think Waves is almost ready to meet the round 2 > requirements. There was an earlier idea of linking sulphur to the waves > to match the f9 codename so I have been working on some mockups of this. > It just needs an accompanying wallpaper: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-98516747c8faef74057e3963e09f522ba7a3ca7b YES!!! Almost like how I was thinking about it (but without my tendency to go overboard) > They do need some further refinement of course but I think they are > developed enough to get a feel for what it would look like. One worry I > have is maybe it is just too dark? But maybe a lighter wallpaper to go > along with it would make the darkness a little easier to take? Maybe it > should use dark blue instead of grey? I'm not sure. Any ideas? We can alternate: F8 was light, F9 will be darker... Maybe make the grey to have a hue of blue, a blue-grey. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From martin.sourada at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 08:17:47 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:17:47 +0100 Subject: Extension? (was Re: Withdrawal of Fedora Theme contest) In-Reply-To: <47A81525.3010904@nicubunu.ro> References: <1202190856.47a7fa0855fe5@ssl.mecca.ca> <47A7FE87.9070004@fedoraproject.org> <47A80CBA.8060303@nicubunu.ro> <47A80F83.30100@fedoraproject.org> <47A81525.3010904@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1202199467.2908.5.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 09:49 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > > > My excuse is vacation and then being super busy having to catch up after > > vacation :( I think maybe we haven't publicized / simply talked about > > the rounds enough this time. The back and forth conversation does help > > to remind and motivate folks I think. I do feel partially responsible > > and I've been quite glad you've picked up the slack with mailing list > > deadline reminders and blog posts. > > And I was busy with some personal projects involving clipart and > tutorials, but the thing is the process should not be blocked by a > temporary lack of availability from you, me or some other person. > Some of the people with proposals in Round 1 have blogs and their blogs > are aggregated to planet Fedora, nobody posted updates there and on the > list, AFAIK, only Mola and that was one single time. Like they abandoned > the work after Round 1. > I have been busy a lot with exams (you know, it's exam term just now) and will be until the end of Round 2 (even with the week extension), so I didn't have time to do more than add some comments. I am happy that Mo picked up the train here, her work on the wave theme for Round 2 is great. I hope I'll have enough time to participate again in Round 3. > > Some good news, I think Waves is almost ready to meet the round 2 > > requirements. There was an earlier idea of linking sulphur to the waves > > to match the f9 codename so I have been working on some mockups of this. > > It just needs an accompanying wallpaper: > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-98516747c8faef74057e3963e09f522ba7a3ca7b > > YES!!! > Almost like how I was thinking about it (but without my tendency to go > overboard) > > > They do need some further refinement of course but I think they are > > developed enough to get a feel for what it would look like. One worry I > > have is maybe it is just too dark? But maybe a lighter wallpaper to go > > along with it would make the darkness a little easier to take? Maybe it > > should use dark blue instead of grey? I'm not sure. 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URL: From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Tue Feb 5 09:28:16 2008 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 04:28:16 -0500 Subject: Extension? (was Re: Withdrawal of Fedora Theme contest) In-Reply-To: <47A7FE87.9070004@fedoraproject.org> References: <1202190856.47a7fa0855fe5@ssl.mecca.ca> <47A7FE87.9070004@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1202203696.47a82c305add4@ssl.mecca.ca> Quoting M?ir?n Duffy : > Hi folks, > > Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > > Due to a busy schedule from graphic design classes, I regret to announce > the > > withdrawal of the contest thus giving more rooms for other contestants. > > I am wondering if a week extension would be useful for folks who are > still busily working on round 2? (I know it would be a big help to me :) > ) We did this for the F8 theme too and saw good results from the > extension. What do folks think? > > ~m That may help given the late release of Fedora 9 Alpha although I cannot warranty the deadline from myself. Because Wave theme seems to be preferred by far, you will see why other draft themes feel abandoned thus the makers gave up. My fear was I won't be able to make on time considering this week priorities. Should round 2 be extended, I may reconsider my decision to withdraw otherwise, it is up to the leader. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga From duffy at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 5 12:36:42 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 07:36:42 -0500 Subject: Extension? (was Re: Withdrawal of Fedora Theme contest) In-Reply-To: <1202203696.47a82c305add4@ssl.mecca.ca> References: <1202190856.47a7fa0855fe5@ssl.mecca.ca> <47A7FE87.9070004@fedoraproject.org> <1202203696.47a82c305add4@ssl.mecca.ca> Message-ID: <47A8585A.6090000@fedoraproject.org> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Quoting M?ir?n Duffy : > >> Hi folks, >> >> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: >>> Due to a busy schedule from graphic design classes, I regret to announce >> the >>> withdrawal of the contest thus giving more rooms for other contestants. >> I am wondering if a week extension would be useful for folks who are >> still busily working on round 2? (I know it would be a big help to me :) >> ) We did this for the F8 theme too and saw good results from the >> extension. What do folks think? >> >> ~m > > That may help given the late release of Fedora 9 Alpha although I cannot > warranty the deadline from myself. Because Wave theme seems to be preferred by > far, you will see why other draft themes feel abandoned thus the makers gave > up. My fear was I won't be able to make on time considering this week > priorities. Should round 2 be extended, I may reconsider my decision to > withdraw otherwise, it is up to the leader. I think we all agree that extending the deadline is a good idea so let's do it! It was February 5th so now it will be February 12. ~m From mmcgrath at redhat.com Tue Feb 5 15:13:51 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 09:13:51 -0600 (CST) Subject: Alpha Banner Message-ID: Can someone make us a get Fedora Alpha banner that's generic enough that we can just change it to beta when the beta is out? The bits have landed and we'd like to place a banner up on the website. -Mike From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Feb 5 16:00:34 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:00:34 +0200 Subject: Alpha Banner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47A88822.4000504@nicubunu.ro> Mike McGrath wrote: > Can someone make us a get Fedora Alpha banner that's generic enough that we > can just change it to beta when the beta is out? The bits have landed and > we'd like to place a banner up on the website. Here is one based on Mo's current implementation of Waves graphic proposal. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I did this one while in IRC and forgot to send it here: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/f9-alpha-promo.png (SVG in the same dir) It uses the yellow glowy color to refer to 'sulphur' but I didn't want to make any assumptions about the theme. I figure that by the beta we'll know which theme proposal we are going with, and we can use the same banner for the beta but add elements from the theme we've decided on. What do you think? ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Feb 5 16:39:29 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:39:29 +0200 Subject: Alpha Banner In-Reply-To: <47A88C97.10803@redhat.com> References: <47A88822.4000504@nicubunu.ro> <47A88C97.10803@redhat.com> Message-ID: <47A89141.9030809@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > I did this one while in IRC and forgot to send it here: > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/f9-alpha-promo.png (SVG in the same dir) neat! > It uses the yellow glowy color to refer to 'sulphur' but I didn't want > to make any assumptions about the theme. I figure that by the beta we'll > know which theme proposal we are going with, and we can use the same > banner for the beta but add elements from the theme we've decided on. > > What do you think? Sure, you are right. Minor observations: - it is 200x101px compared with the current 200x100px (but this is an invisible difference) - converting to indexed PNG will reduce the file size to less than half, but with a quality decrease (but no worse than the old animated GIF) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From jakub.rusinek at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 19:15:20 2008 From: jakub.rusinek at gmail.com (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:15:20 +0100 Subject: echo icons should not be provided with fedora by default / echo cannot be the default icon set Message-ID: <47A8B5C8.8090303@gmail.com> hi, you know my opinion about echo: * it causes mixing of tangoish style and echo, because of well used tango style and lack of icon in echo * they are not complete and they cannot cover some icons because of hardcoded pixmaps (not to accept is hardcoding echo instead of fixing that) * echo looks like childs play that was my subjective opinion. now some facts (0.3.1-1.fc8): * blurry gedit * blurry gcalctool * non-echo gnome-screenshot * non-echo dictionary * non-echo file-roller * non-echo sound-juicer * non-echo gimp * non-echo inkscape * non-echo gconf-editor * non-echo nautilus * non-echo gnome-mount * non-echo prefferred apps * non-echo keyboard prefs * non-echo appearance * non-echo windows * non-echo personal file sharing * non-echo date and time * non-echo screen * non-echo root's password * non-echo neat-control (network interfaces control tool) * non-echo grub configuration tool * non-echo services * non-echo authorization * non-echo users and groups * non-echo sound * non-echo firewall * non-echo lvm * non-echo gtk-help * non-echo gtk-close * no svgs * low visibility of panel volume icons * too much of transparency in system-search/whatever it is what I want you to tell? we cannot use that icons, becase we'll be mixing styles (that's a fact you must understand). even if you can stand on your head, you cannot change this. fedora should follow new fashion of tangoish artwork and should provide tangoish icons where possible to make its configuration tools integrate better with gnome (because without rewriting they'll never be kde-compiliant). why icons are *so* important? because "love at first sight" may occur. also, have you even seen ubuntu From duffy at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 5 19:19:56 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:19:56 -0500 Subject: echo icons should not be provided with fedora by default / echo cannot be the default icon set In-Reply-To: <47A8B5C8.8090303@gmail.com> References: <47A8B5C8.8090303@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47A8B6DC.10902@fedoraproject.org> Jakub, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > hi, > > you know my opinion about echo: 1) You ALREADY sent this diatribe. Rather than re-sending it, think about why nobody cared to reply to it. 2) I am losing my patience with your Echo bashing. Filing bug reports for the icons you found objective issues with is far more helpful than flinging an trolling diatribe. I'm considering putting your messages on moderation. ~m From jakub.rusinek at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 20:35:56 2008 From: jakub.rusinek at gmail.com (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:35:56 +0100 Subject: echo icons should not be provided with fedora by default / echo cannot be the default icon set In-Reply-To: <47A8B6DC.10902@fedoraproject.org> References: <47A8B5C8.8090303@gmail.com> <47A8B6DC.10902@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47A8C8AC.7030407@gmail.com> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Jakub, > > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: >> hi, >> >> you know my opinion about echo: > > 1) You ALREADY sent this diatribe. Rather than re-sending it, think > about why nobody cared to reply to it. > > 2) I am losing my patience with your Echo bashing. Filing bug reports > for the icons you found objective issues with is far more helpful than > flinging an trolling diatribe. > > I'm considering putting your messages on moderation. > > ~m Funny... I've sent here, not in BZ, list of issues with screenshots. Noone was interested. Why? Better is not to listen and ignore me. From duffy at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 5 20:40:05 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:40:05 -0500 Subject: echo icons should not be provided with fedora by default / echo cannot be the default icon set In-Reply-To: <47A8C8AC.7030407@gmail.com> References: <47A8B5C8.8090303@gmail.com> <47A8B6DC.10902@fedoraproject.org> <47A8C8AC.7030407@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47A8C9A5.70804@fedoraproject.org> Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Jakub, >> >> Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: >>> hi, >>> >>> you know my opinion about echo: >> >> 1) You ALREADY sent this diatribe. Rather than re-sending it, think >> about why nobody cared to reply to it. >> >> 2) I am losing my patience with your Echo bashing. Filing bug reports >> for the icons you found objective issues with is far more helpful than >> flinging an trolling diatribe. >> >> I'm considering putting your messages on moderation. >> >> ~m > > Funny... I've sent here, not in BZ, list of issues with screenshots. > > Noone was interested. > > Why? Better is not to listen and ignore me. Yes, I realize from the first time you posted the list that you sent it to the mailing list. What I was trying to hint to you is that bug reports really belong in bugzilla, not on a mailing list, and certainly without the vinegar! Maybe the Echo folks aren't rushing to fix all the issues you've brought up since you've been extremely rude to them repeatedly? 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Filing bug reports >>> for the icons you found objective issues with is far more helpful than >>> flinging an trolling diatribe. >>> >>> I'm considering putting your messages on moderation. >>> >>> ~m >> >> Funny... I've sent here, not in BZ, list of issues with screenshots. >> >> Noone was interested. >> >> Why? Better is not to listen and ignore me. > > Yes, I realize from the first time you posted the list that you sent it > to the mailing list. What I was trying to hint to you is that bug > reports really belong in bugzilla, not on a mailing list, and certainly > without the vinegar! > > Maybe the Echo folks aren't rushing to fix all the issues you've brought > up since you've been extremely rude to them repeatedly? Ever hear of the > saying 'sugar works better than vinegar' ? > > ~m I can file bugs, but I'm sure they'll not fix it. - This was not the thing you want to hear, I know, but that's true. Echo was made to be included in F7, then F8 and then for F9, but still it's not ready. Not so polished as it should be. #11, #12, #13, #14 in Hosted Trac. From duffy at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 5 21:13:49 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:13:49 -0500 Subject: echo icons should not be provided with fedora by default / echo cannot be the default icon set In-Reply-To: <47A8CB0C.7070409@gmail.com> References: <47A8B5C8.8090303@gmail.com> <47A8B6DC.10902@fedoraproject.org> <47A8C8AC.7030407@gmail.com> <47A8C9A5.70804@fedoraproject.org> <47A8CB0C.7070409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47A8D18D.2060605@fedoraproject.org> Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > I can file bugs, but I'm sure they'll not fix it. - This was not the > thing you want to hear, I know, but that's true. Do you understand why they may not want to, given your behavior? If you really cared to have the issues you report fixed you would treat people with more respect. ~m From martin.sourada at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 21:45:02 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:45:02 +0100 Subject: echo icons should not be provided with fedora by default / echo cannot be the default icon set In-Reply-To: <47A8D18D.2060605@fedoraproject.org> References: <47A8B5C8.8090303@gmail.com> <47A8B6DC.10902@fedoraproject.org> <47A8C8AC.7030407@gmail.com> <47A8C9A5.70804@fedoraproject.org> <47A8CB0C.7070409@gmail.com> <47A8D18D.2060605@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1202247902.2908.13.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 16:13 -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > > I can file bugs, but I'm sure they'll not fix it. - This was not the > > thing you want to hear, I know, but that's true. > > Do you understand why they may not want to, given your behavior? > > If you really cared to have the issues you report fixed you would treat > people with more respect. > > ~m > One of the reasons why we do not care much to respond to your cries is, as Mo said, your behaviour. We just don't want some pointless flame. And as for fixing the issues (many of those you listed are real problems) its mainly a matter of lacking enough contributors. So if you really want to have clear reactions about them from us, you really have to fill bugs. If they are invalid, you'll be given straight notice, that it is not an issue or us, and if they are valid, they will not be forgotten. Given how much spare time I, and I suppose Luya as well, have, it's hard for the two of us to be making fast progress, but I hope that now when we have finally decided about the guidelines we can attract more people to contribute. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jakub.rusinek at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 22:06:46 2008 From: jakub.rusinek at gmail.com (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:06:46 +0100 Subject: echo icons should not be provided with fedora by default / echo cannot be the default icon set In-Reply-To: <1202247902.2908.13.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> References: <47A8B5C8.8090303@gmail.com> <47A8B6DC.10902@fedoraproject.org> <47A8C8AC.7030407@gmail.com> <47A8C9A5.70804@fedoraproject.org> <47A8CB0C.7070409@gmail.com> <47A8D18D.2060605@fedoraproject.org> <1202247902.2908.13.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <47A8DDF6.6090508@gmail.com> Martin Sourada wrote: > On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 16:13 -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: >>> I can file bugs, but I'm sure they'll not fix it. - This was not the >>> thing you want to hear, I know, but that's true. >> Do you understand why they may not want to, given your behavior? >> >> If you really cared to have the issues you report fixed you would treat >> people with more respect. >> >> ~m >> > One of the reasons why we do not care much to respond to your cries is, > as Mo said, your behaviour. We just don't want some pointless flame. And > as for fixing the issues (many of those you listed are real problems) > its mainly a matter of lacking enough contributors. So if you really > want to have clear reactions about them from us, you really have to fill > bugs. If they are invalid, you'll be given straight notice, that it is > not an issue or us, and if they are valid, they will not be forgotten. > Given how much spare time I, and I suppose Luya as well, have, it's hard > for the two of us to be making fast progress, but I hope that now when > we have finally decided about the guidelines we can attract more people > to contribute. > > Martin > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Easier would be making tango-compiliant theme to play well with GNOME apps. Some apps are using hardcoded pixmaps, but better are tangoish, than old-GNOME-1.x. You cannot theme them, so style will be mixing. I'm said you decided to create icon theme from 0... From martin.sourada at gmail.com Tue Feb 5 23:30:24 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:30:24 +0100 Subject: Echo future (was: echo icons should not be provided...) In-Reply-To: <47A8DDF6.6090508@gmail.com> References: <47A8B5C8.8090303@gmail.com> <47A8B6DC.10902@fedoraproject.org> <47A8C8AC.7030407@gmail.com> <47A8C9A5.70804@fedoraproject.org> <47A8CB0C.7070409@gmail.com> <47A8D18D.2060605@fedoraproject.org> <1202247902.2908.13.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <47A8DDF6.6090508@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1202254224.2908.34.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 23:06 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > Easier would be making tango-compiliant theme to play well with GNOME apps. > That would be pointless. We are offering an alternative that is stylistically (coincidentally) in between the tango style and oxygen style. I personally think that Echo can work quite good together (to some extent) with both, while tango and oxygen really don't work together at all... > Some apps are using hardcoded pixmaps, but better are tangoish, than > old-GNOME-1.x. > Hard-coded pixmaps are bad, if you keep fillings bugs about those, the situation might improve for all the people trying to make their own icon themes (and guessing from look at gnome-look.org there are a lot of them). > You cannot theme them, so style will be mixing. > Yep and that's bad. Not everyone likes tango/oxygen/echo/bluecurve/whatever and we need to make it possible for people to use whatever theme they like but with consistent look throughout the desktop. > I'm said you decided to create icon theme from 0... > Nope, we decided to build up a theme around the basis started as a personal project by former Red Hat employee Diana Fong which happened to be quite liked by the fedora community but was far from complete and partially inconsistent (which still is, though now at least we have the guidelines and created a lot new icons since then)... But like I said before, while Echo icon theme has a lot of fans and followers we are short of contributors, which slows down the development to such extent that every now and then people question the possibility of it ever being complete. When I have some more time (probably after a week or two) I plan to try to attract new contributors in the fedoraforum.org, but who knows if it will work... We certainly need some more publicity for might-be-interested-people to notice that we might need their help. (and of course any ideas/suggestions/actions in that way is appreciated as I am not really experienced in that filed, though it worked for the Nodoka in past [at least to speed up the most needed part of making the fork of the murrine engine]...). But also, we need to improve the infrastructure as well, the ToDo page is outdated, and we need to expand it more (mostly in the field of reviewing existing icons for guidelines violations) and start going through the schedule for 0.4 release which aims to be so much complete as to be able to be set as default icon theme. There is hell a lot of work and I have serious doubts about being it done even for F10 given there are currently only two of us actively participating in that (with some occasional appreciated efforts from Mark). And I personally think, you being one of the persons who like pursuing issues, you could probably help a lot with making the ToDo page, given that you already listed some of that in your tickets and here on art-list. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 6 03:52:30 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:52:30 -0500 Subject: Fedora Banners Archive Message-ID: <47A92EFE.5050202@fedoraproject.org> I decided to put together a little spot in the wiki where we can collect all of the banners (and their sources) that we have made for www.fedoraproject.org in case they end up being useful for something else or maybe if their sources could be reused. The page is here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners I know I am missing some, the fudcon one comes to mind (I think I do have the source for that somewhere)... if you can think of any I have missed please feel free to add them here. :) Thanks, ~m From jakub.rusinek at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 05:50:00 2008 From: jakub.rusinek at gmail.com (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:50:00 +0100 Subject: Echo future In-Reply-To: <1202254224.2908.34.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> References: <47A8B5C8.8090303@gmail.com> <47A8B6DC.10902@fedoraproject.org> <47A8C8AC.7030407@gmail.com> <47A8C9A5.70804@fedoraproject.org> <47A8CB0C.7070409@gmail.com> <47A8D18D.2060605@fedoraproject.org> <1202247902.2908.13.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <47A8DDF6.6090508@gmail.com> <1202254224.2908.34.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <47A94A88.2040501@gmail.com> > On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 23:06 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: >> Martin Sourada wrote: >> Easier would be making tango-compiliant theme to play well with GNOME apps. >> > That would be pointless. We are offering an alternative that is > stylistically (coincidentally) in between the tango style and oxygen > style. I personally think that Echo can work quite good together (to > some extent) with both, while tango and oxygen really don't work > together at all... > I see no reason, why they should work together. Tango is GNOME-related, Oxygen is KDE-related. Probably, if someone uses mix of GNOME and KDE apps, will like Echo, but... It sadly doesn't play well with Tangoish style of GNOME. With Oxygen probably too. Echo has too less borders and gloss, compared to Oxygen. Compared to Tango - too less gradients. It's impossible to do a multi-DE icon set... >> Some apps are using hardcoded pixmaps, but better are tangoish, than >> old-GNOME-1.x. >> > Hard-coded pixmaps are bad, if you keep fillings bugs about those, the > situation might improve for all the people trying to make their own icon > themes (and guessing from look at gnome-look.org there are a lot of > them). Listen, sometimes people don't want to create own icons for apps. Most of apps are placing icons in hicolor/, but they were never replaced (I've never seen ie. own Banshee icons). >> You cannot theme them, so style will be mixing. >> > Yep and that's bad. Not everyone likes > tango/oxygen/echo/bluecurve/whatever and we need to make it possible for > people to use whatever theme they like but with consistent look > throughout the desktop. Echo has more vibrant pallette (which partly I like, but the turqoise), Tango has more... "dirty" pallette and concrete styling guidelines - thick borders, gradient, gloss... Echo is so... not plain... subtle. It could even look good imo, if we could drop perspective. Both Tango and Oxy are using plain perspective. It's good because there will be no inconsistence in ie. Nautilus. > > But like I said before, while Echo icon theme has a lot of fans and > followers we are short of contributors, which slows down the development > to such extent that every now and then people question the possibility > of it ever being complete. Also has antifans :> . > And I personally think, you being one of the persons who like pursuing > issues, you could probably help a lot with making the ToDo page, given > that you already listed some of that in your tickets and here on > art-list. I'll try to file more from time to time, like I do every day for Firefox Trunk and Thunderbird Trunk. This year my activity in BZ's is growing. From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 6 07:28:23 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:28:23 -0500 Subject: Generic Fedora Poster Designs for Events Message-ID: <47A96197.5010900@fedoraproject.org> Hi, Joerg Simon pointed out to me the need for generic (e.g., not specific to any release or event) and re-usable poster designs for event booths. I took a stab at a 3-poster series. They are simple designs but maybe they would be catchy for an event booth. The palette could definitely use tweaking, I am sure there are 3 colors that would work better. I think the text is pretty hokey too. Actually, I think as I went along each poster's gets hokier and hokier ;-) Anyhow, here they are: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/fedora-poster-designs.png (svg in same dir) I think the general layout and approach (1) one fedora idea/principle (2) short explanation of what it means for Fedora (3) nice shiny Fedora logo could be a good one for the purpose. I think the repetition of three similar (but slightly different) posters in the booth would also look slick. I designed these posters with the idea that they could be roughly 36" x 24". (Standard US poster size, but could easily be tweaked for other specific standard sizes near that ratio.) What do you think? ~m From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 08:25:42 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:55:42 +0530 Subject: Generic Fedora Poster Designs for Events In-Reply-To: <47A96197.5010900@fedoraproject.org> References: <47A96197.5010900@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47A96F06.30106@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 M?ir?n Duffy wrote: | http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/fedora-poster-designs.png (svg in | same dir) These look nice. I have a small request - can you make them into 3 individual posters ? That would allow me to pass them to the printers for a small run and distribute at a few local up coming events ~sankarshan - -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHqW8GXQZpNTcrCzMRAoZcAJ0UhdMq2A0JaDUxaQNJU+APoCD1WACghFXz Iy8IqchIKJNeZHBKYCBsYWU= =rE61 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lightsolphoenix at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 08:41:59 2008 From: lightsolphoenix at gmail.com (Kelly Miller) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:41:59 -0500 Subject: Echo future In-Reply-To: <1202254224.2908.34.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> References: <47A8B5C8.8090303@gmail.com> <47A8B6DC.10902@fedoraproject.org> <47A8C8AC.7030407@gmail.com> <47A8C9A5.70804@fedoraproject.org> <47A8CB0C.7070409@gmail.com> <47A8D18D.2060605@fedoraproject.org> <1202247902.2908.13.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <47A8DDF6.6090508@gmail.com> <1202254224.2908.34.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <47A972D7.70105@gmail.com> Martin Sourada wrote: > On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 23:06 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > >> Martin Sourada wrote: >> Easier would be making tango-compiliant theme to play well with GNOME apps. >> >> > That would be pointless. We are offering an alternative that is > stylistically (coincidentally) in between the tango style and oxygen > style. I personally think that Echo can work quite good together (to > some extent) with both, while tango and oxygen really don't work > together at all.. For that very reason, I've been seriously thinking about making a blended icon theme that works well with both Qt and GTK+ apps, though I'm not an artist. I actually wrote a program of sorts that fed me a spreadsheet full of the Gnome icon names and whether they are symlinks to others or not (the purpose being so I can match KDE icons to Gnome icons, and figure out what symlinks to make that'll allow such an icon theme to work in both environments at the same time). From nisses.mail at home.se Wed Feb 6 09:58:29 2008 From: nisses.mail at home.se (Andreas Nilsson) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:58:29 +0100 Subject: Echo future In-Reply-To: <1202254224.2908.34.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> References: <47A8B5C8.8090303@gmail.com> <47A8B6DC.10902@fedoraproject.org> <47A8C8AC.7030407@gmail.com> <47A8C9A5.70804@fedoraproject.org> <47A8CB0C.7070409@gmail.com> <47A8D18D.2060605@fedoraproject.org> <1202247902.2908.13.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <47A8DDF6.6090508@gmail.com> <1202254224.2908.34.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <47A984C5.7000207@home.se> Martin Sourada wrote: > On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 23:06 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > >> Martin Sourada wrote: >> Easier would be making tango-compiliant theme to play well with GNOME apps. >> > That would be pointless. We are offering an alternative that is > stylistically (coincidentally) in between the tango style and oxygen > style. I personally think that Echo can work quite good together (to > some extent) with both, while tango and oxygen really don't work > together at all... > Hey Martin! I'm not sure I agree that the oxygen-style and tango-style clash that hard and we're slowly trying to move closer to the oxygen-style. The latest Firefox 3 stuff is a small step in that direction (+ our HighRes experiments [1], [2]). And yeah, I would be rather happy if Livio's flames calmed down a bit too and really hope it haven't put the tango-project in a bad light. :/ >> Some apps are using hardcoded pixmaps, but better are tangoish, than >> old-GNOME-1.x. >> >> > Hard-coded pixmaps are bad, if you keep fillings bugs about those, the > situation might improve for all the people trying to make their own icon > themes (and guessing from look at gnome-look.org there are a lot of > them). > It's also mega-important for HighContrast where the interface will be quite useless if hardcoded. 1. http://jimmac.musichall.cz/i.php?i=Highres 2. http://jimmac.musichall.cz/i.php?i=Tango-NG - Andreas From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 10:19:16 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:19:16 +0100 Subject: Echo future In-Reply-To: <47A984C5.7000207@home.se> References: <47A8B5C8.8090303@gmail.com> <47A8B6DC.10902@fedoraproject.org> <47A8C8AC.7030407@gmail.com> <47A8C9A5.70804@fedoraproject.org> <47A8CB0C.7070409@gmail.com> <47A8D18D.2060605@fedoraproject.org> <1202247902.2908.13.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <47A8DDF6.6090508@gmail.com> <1202254224.2908.34.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <47A984C5.7000207@home.se> Message-ID: <1202293156.2904.11.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 10:58 +0100, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 23:06 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > > > >> Martin Sourada wrote: > >> Easier would be making tango-compiliant theme to play well with GNOME apps. > >> > > That would be pointless. We are offering an alternative that is > > stylistically (coincidentally) in between the tango style and oxygen > > style. I personally think that Echo can work quite good together (to > > some extent) with both, while tango and oxygen really don't work > > together at all... > > > Hey Martin! Hi Andreas, > I'm not sure I agree that the oxygen-style and tango-style clash that > hard and we're slowly trying to move closer to the oxygen-style. The > latest Firefox 3 stuff is a small step in that direction (+ our HighRes > experiments [1], [2]). > Well, after all it's my opinion... It's based mostly on the fact, that to me it seems that while tango! focuses more on readability, clarity, usability and simplicity, oxygen seems to aim to look more realistic and shiny, while Echo is somewhere in between, but with slightly different perspective. And yeah, I saw the highres experiments, they look really great, can't wait for high-dpi screens :) Btw. is the status page at freedesktop [1] actual for oxygen icons or is there some more fresh source (I might be comparing outdated versions...)? > And yeah, I would be rather happy if Livio's flames calmed down a bit > too and really hope it haven't put the tango-project in a bad light. :/ Certainly not for me. What Livio presents are his opinions and I do not connect it in anyway to the tango! project (save for accepting the fact he likes it which is not a bad thing at all). > >> Some apps are using hardcoded pixmaps, but better are tangoish, than > >> old-GNOME-1.x. > >> > >> > > Hard-coded pixmaps are bad, if you keep fillings bugs about those, the > > situation might improve for all the people trying to make their own icon > > themes (and guessing from look at gnome-look.org there are a lot of > > them). > > > It's also mega-important for HighContrast where the interface will be > quite useless if hardcoded. > Yeah, I totally agree. > 1. http://jimmac.musichall.cz/i.php?i=Highres > 2. http://jimmac.musichall.cz/i.php?i=Tango-NG > - Andreas > References: [1] http://people.freedesktop.org/~jimmac/icons/ Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Almost all apps are now following the style, which is being common for GNOME (like the Aquaish icons are common for OSX). Some apps, until "art revolution" had ugly icons, even non-GNOME-1x. I think that making everything to make common style for GNOME is good idea. Many icon themes were known: Crux, GNOME, Bluecurve. Tango tries to make them look consistent, even, when they're not blur, but most green, etc. Foglie, Foxtrot, Crux, Mist - only few icon themes, which have own style for folder and every icon with folder emblem and are inheriting GNOME. They look very nice. Try Echo now. Looks inconsistent with Tango and with Oxygen. Echo is subtle, Tango has thick borders, Oxygen is glossy. GNOME and KDE always were different - different GUIs, different people targeted... Difference are good here, because you can see the power of choice. I know, splitting Echo for "only-Oxygen" and "only-Tango" would be stupid, but something between doesn't integrate neither with Tango nor Oxygen. "Livio is flaming"... Well known quote. I want to make desktop environment consistent, not mixed or split. See what bad spliting makes and what's good in merging back? Beryl was fork, now it's part of Compiz Fusion. Features of Beryl, high quality code of Compiz. Together are making mature product. I wonder if some beautiful day you'll join Tango. With your enthusiasm to work you would be very appreciated Tango contributors. PS: I'm talking mostly about Tango, because I'm using GNOME and contributon to GNOME. I think the differences between DEs are good. See ya later! From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Feb 6 13:10:47 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:10:47 +0200 Subject: Help handling inkscape with fedora 9 banner In-Reply-To: <20080206133308.111a6cb3@annifrid.mrtomlinux> References: <20080206133308.111a6cb3@annifrid.mrtomlinux> Message-ID: <47A9B1D7.1020600@nicubunu.ro> Thomas Canniot wrote: > I'm trying to translate the amazing little fedora 9 banner [1] into > french, but my poor knowledge of inkscape does not let me export the > file correctly. There is something strange here... it is broken for me too and I run a recent development version of Inkscape... some objects are not blurred when they should be. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fedora9alpha-banner2_mo.png > > I got the blue waves around and the outline of the 9 figure whereas > there are not present in the one Mairin introduced on her blog. > > Should I simply remove them ? I f i do so, the blur aroung the sulphur > is no more present. You should blur those blue rays, as well as the gray halo around the "9" and some yellow objects... I can do it for you but I need the french text. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Wed Feb 6 13:37:36 2008 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:37:36 +0100 Subject: Help handling inkscape with fedora 9 banner In-Reply-To: <47A9B1D7.1020600@nicubunu.ro> References: <20080206133308.111a6cb3@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47A9B1D7.1020600@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <20080206143736.411efc43@annifrid.mrtomlinux> Le Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:10:47 +0200, Nicu Buculei a ?crit : > Thomas Canniot wrote: > > I'm trying to translate the amazing little fedora 9 banner [1] into > > french, but my poor knowledge of inkscape does not let me export the > > file correctly. > > There is something strange here... it is broken for me too and I run > a recent development version of Inkscape... some objects are not > blurred when they should be. > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fedora9alpha-banner2_mo.png > > > > I got the blue waves around and the outline of the 9 figure whereas > > there are not present in the one Mairin introduced on her blog. > > > > Should I simply remove them ? I f i do so, the blur aroung the > > sulphur is no more present. > > You should blur those blue rays, as well as the gray halo around the > "9" and some yellow objects... I can do it for you but I need the > french text. > Great they were blurred then. I found the tool on RedHat Magazine (http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/02/27/the-open-palettehow-to-use-inkscapes-new-blur-filter/) Moreover, I noticed that the reflect of the right hand side sulphur element are not present in inkscape as well whereas is it on the png. The svg with inkscape does not have it, but when i open it with firefox it does appear. Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Strange again, I can see it here both with Inkscape and Firefox. Here is a sketch about creating such a reflect using masks: http://nicubunu.ro/howto/inkscape_gimp_reflections/dface_reflect.png -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Wed Feb 6 14:09:04 2008 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:09:04 +0100 Subject: Help handling inkscape with fedora 9 banner In-Reply-To: <47A9BC9A.6060804@nicubunu.ro> References: <20080206133308.111a6cb3@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47A9B1D7.1020600@nicubunu.ro> <20080206143736.411efc43@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47A9BC9A.6060804@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1202306944.47a9bf8090c6e@ssl0.ovh.net> Selon Nicu Buculei : > Thomas Canniot wrote: > > > > Great they were blurred then. > > > > I found the tool on RedHat Magazine > > > (http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/02/27/the-open-palettehow-to-use-inkscapes-new-blur-filter/) > > > > Moreover, I noticed that the reflect of the right hand side sulphur > > element are not present in inkscape as well whereas is it on the png. > > The svg with inkscape does not have it, but when i open it with firefox > > it does appear. > > Strange again, I can see it here both with Inkscape and Firefox. > > Here is a sketch about creating such a reflect using masks: > http://nicubunu.ro/howto/inkscape_gimp_reflections/dface_reflect.png > I ran inkscape under widows as well, and I don't see it either :( I will try to re-create it with your sketch, thanks. Thomas From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Feb 6 14:23:54 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:23:54 +0200 Subject: Help handling inkscape with fedora 9 banner In-Reply-To: <1202306944.47a9bf8090c6e@ssl0.ovh.net> References: <20080206133308.111a6cb3@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47A9B1D7.1020600@nicubunu.ro> <20080206143736.411efc43@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47A9BC9A.6060804@nicubunu.ro> <1202306944.47a9bf8090c6e@ssl0.ovh.net> Message-ID: <47A9C2FA.6080904@nicubunu.ro> thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org wrote: > > I ran inkscape under widows as well, and I don't see it either :( Attached: an autopackage build from January, the blur was fixed manually. > I will try to re-create it with your sketch, thanks. My offer to do it is still open. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In fact, what you're saying is that people working on unifying the appearance of the applications of both desktops (like the guys working on QtCurve and the various KDE-to-Gnome and Gnome-to-KDE style ports) should just give up, as what they're doing cannot be done, even though it has been. If KDE and Gnome cannot share one unified icon theme, how do you explain nuoveXT? Tango itself works pretty decently across both as well, and there's work ongoing to get Crystal SVG to work in Gnome as well. After all, I thought this very "impossibility" was the point of the freedesktop.org icon standard and icon-naming-utils... From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Wed Feb 6 14:48:24 2008 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:48:24 +0100 Subject: Help handling inkscape with fedora 9 banner In-Reply-To: <47A9C2FA.6080904@nicubunu.ro> References: <20080206133308.111a6cb3@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47A9B1D7.1020600@nicubunu.ro> <20080206143736.411efc43@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47A9BC9A.6060804@nicubunu.ro> <1202306944.47a9bf8090c6e@ssl0.ovh.net> <47A9C2FA.6080904@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1202309304.47a9c8b898aae@ssl0.ovh.net> Selon Nicu Buculei : > thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org wrote: > > > > I ran inkscape under widows as well, and I don't see it either :( > > Attached: an autopackage build from January, the blur was fixed manually. > > > I will try to re-create it with your sketch, thanks. > > My offer to do it is still open. > Thanks a lot but i wanted to try it out on my own, so as to learn few things that will be also used for a another project i'm working on. 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KDE and Gnome do not have that different an icon system that > they cannot be used in tandem. In fact, what you're saying is that > people working on unifying the appearance of the applications of both > desktops (like the guys working on QtCurve and the various KDE-to-Gnome > and Gnome-to-KDE style ports) should just give up, as what they're doing > cannot be done, even though it has been. QtCurve doesn't work well with GTK. > If KDE and Gnome cannot share one unified icon theme, how do you explain > nuoveXT? Tango itself works pretty decently across both as well, and > there's work ongoing to get Crystal SVG to work in Gnome as well. nuoveXT doesn't count. It provides many not needed icons. And again, KDE < 4 didn't applied to FD's icon naming spec. It needed many symlinks (and it needs them even for cursors). > After all, I thought this very "impossibility" was the point of the > freedesktop.org icon standard and icon-naming-utils... I don't think we need to join GNOME and KDE together to work on something. Those are almost whole systems (I know, same kernel can be used), they're so different and other people choose GNOME, other KDE. Most GNOME people don't want KDE's features and appearance, and vice versa. If someone mixes them, his problem. ^ My opinion. From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 6 15:28:48 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:28:48 -0500 Subject: Help handling inkscape with fedora 9 banner In-Reply-To: <1202309304.47a9c8b898aae@ssl0.ovh.net> References: <20080206133308.111a6cb3@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47A9B1D7.1020600@nicubunu.ro> <20080206143736.411efc43@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47A9BC9A.6060804@nicubunu.ro> <1202306944.47a9bf8090c6e@ssl0.ovh.net> <47A9C2FA.6080904@nicubunu.ro> <1202309304.47a9c8b898aae@ssl0.ovh.net> Message-ID: <47A9D230.6040503@fedoraproject.org> thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org wrote: > Selon Nicu Buculei : > >> thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org wrote: >>> I ran inkscape under widows as well, and I don't see it either :( >> Attached: an autopackage build from January, the blur was fixed manually. >> >>> I will try to re-create it with your sketch, thanks. >> My offer to do it is still open. >> > > Thanks a lot but i wanted to try it out on my own, so as to learn few things > that will be also used for a another project i'm working on. > > I'm quite proud of the result i got :) Oooh a translation, let's see it :) (Btw did you translate from within inkscap From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 6 15:30:35 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:30:35 -0500 Subject: Help handling inkscape with fedora 9 banner In-Reply-To: <47A9D230.6040503@fedoraproject.org> References: <20080206133308.111a6cb3@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47A9B1D7.1020600@nicubunu.ro> <20080206143736.411efc43@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47A9BC9A.6060804@nicubunu.ro> <1202306944.47a9bf8090c6e@ssl0.ovh.net> <47A9C2FA.6080904@nicubunu.ro> <1202309304.47a9c8b898aae@ssl0.ovh.net> <47A9D230.6040503@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47A9D29B.2080300@fedoraproject.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org wrote: >> I'm quite proud of the result i got :) > > Oooh a translation, let's see it :) > > (Btw did you translate from within inkscap > Whoops accidentally hit send before I was finished. What I was wondering is if you translated from within Inkscape's UI or did you modify the SVG xml in a text editor and just use inkscape to export the PNG? Also I did do it in a development build of Inkscape so if there are issues that is probably why. :( ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Feb 6 15:54:09 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:54:09 +0200 Subject: Help handling inkscape with fedora 9 banner In-Reply-To: <1202309304.47a9c8b898aae@ssl0.ovh.net> References: <20080206133308.111a6cb3@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47A9B1D7.1020600@nicubunu.ro> <20080206143736.411efc43@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47A9BC9A.6060804@nicubunu.ro> <1202306944.47a9bf8090c6e@ssl0.ovh.net> <47A9C2FA.6080904@nicubunu.ro> <1202309304.47a9c8b898aae@ssl0.ovh.net> Message-ID: <47A9D821.4000707@nicubunu.ro> thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org wrote: > > Thanks a lot but i wanted to try it out on my own, so as to learn few things > that will be also used for a another project i'm working on. And this is a very good thing to do, you never know when the tricks will show useful. > I'm quite proud of the result i got :) Yes, is good, nice job. However, I like a bit better the smaller fonts from the original version. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From lightsolphoenix at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 16:01:12 2008 From: lightsolphoenix at gmail.com (Kelly Miller) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:01:12 -0500 Subject: Echo future In-Reply-To: <47A9D097.7090409@gmail.com> References: <47A8B5C8.8090303@gmail.com> <47A8B6DC.10902@fedoraproject.org> <47A8C8AC.7030407@gmail.com> <47A8C9A5.70804@fedoraproject.org> <47A8CB0C.7070409@gmail.com> <47A8D18D.2060605@fedoraproject.org> <1202247902.2908.13.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <47A8DDF6.6090508@gmail.com> <1202254224.2908.34.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <47A94A88.2040501@gmail.com> <47A9C799.5040105@gmail.com> <47A9D097.7090409@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47A9D9C8.6040803@gmail.com> Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > QtCurve doesn't work well with GTK. Funny, it works perfectly fine when I use it. > Most GNOME people don't want KDE's features and appearance, and vice > versa. > > If someone mixes them, his problem. Go and tell that to the people who run KDE and use Firefox and/or Thunderbird as their main browser/email client. I guess they'd rather have their principle programs stick out like sore thumbs. Can I predict that you run Gnome as your main desktop? I've noticed that this sort of attitude seems to come from Gnome-centric people who feel that having anything Qt-related on their system is a corruption of FLOSS, and ignore anyone who tries to run both at the same time. From jakub.rusinek at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 16:14:11 2008 From: jakub.rusinek at gmail.com (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:14:11 +0100 Subject: Echo future In-Reply-To: <47A9D9C8.6040803@gmail.com> References: <47A8B5C8.8090303@gmail.com> <47A8B6DC.10902@fedoraproject.org> <47A8C8AC.7030407@gmail.com> <47A8C9A5.70804@fedoraproject.org> <47A8CB0C.7070409@gmail.com> <47A8D18D.2060605@fedoraproject.org> <1202247902.2908.13.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <47A8DDF6.6090508@gmail.com> <1202254224.2908.34.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <47A94A88.2040501@gmail.com> <47A9C799.5040105@gmail.com> <47A9D097.7090409@gmail.com> <47A9D9C8.6040803@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47A9DCD3.4020304@gmail.com> Kelly Miller wrote: > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: >> QtCurve doesn't work well with GTK. > Funny, it works perfectly fine when I use it. >> Most GNOME people don't want KDE's features and appearance, and vice >> versa. >> >> If someone mixes them, his problem. > Go and tell that to the people who run KDE and use Firefox and/or > Thunderbird as their main browser/email client. I guess they'd rather > have their principle programs stick out like sore thumbs. > > Can I predict that you run Gnome as your main desktop? I've noticed that > this sort of attitude seems to come from Gnome-centric people who feel > that having anything Qt-related on their system is a corruption of > FLOSS, and ignore anyone who tries to run both at the same time. Doesn't really matter, what I use and like. I like KDE, thats reason I put lipstik into repo. But KDE and GNOME are targeted into slightly different group of users. KDE users require more, GNOME users require less features and settings. From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Feb 6 16:22:42 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:22:42 +0200 Subject: Echo future In-Reply-To: <47A9D9C8.6040803@gmail.com> References: <47A8B5C8.8090303@gmail.com> <47A8B6DC.10902@fedoraproject.org> <47A8C8AC.7030407@gmail.com> <47A8C9A5.70804@fedoraproject.org> <47A8CB0C.7070409@gmail.com> <47A8D18D.2060605@fedoraproject.org> <1202247902.2908.13.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <47A8DDF6.6090508@gmail.com> <1202254224.2908.34.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <47A94A88.2040501@gmail.com> <47A9C799.5040105@gmail.com> <47A9D097.7090409@gmail.com> <47A9D9C8.6040803@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47A9DED2.4060003@nicubunu.ro> Kelly Miller wrote: > Go and tell that to the people who run KDE and use Firefox and/or > Thunderbird as their main browser/email client. I guess they'd rather > have their principle programs stick out like sore thumbs. > > Can I predict that you run Gnome as your main desktop? I've noticed > that this sort of attitude seems to come from Gnome-centric people who > feel that having anything Qt-related on their system is a corruption of > FLOSS, and ignore anyone who tries to run both at the same time. Is not a corruption of FLOSS, is a break of the visual consistency, an unneeded waste of resources (have in RAM the supporting libraries for both toolkits) and and an awful increase in the startup speed of the apps using the *other* toolkit. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From jakub.rusinek at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 16:32:13 2008 From: jakub.rusinek at gmail.com (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:32:13 +0100 Subject: Echo future In-Reply-To: <47A9DED2.4060003@nicubunu.ro> References: <47A8B5C8.8090303@gmail.com> <47A8B6DC.10902@fedoraproject.org> <47A8C8AC.7030407@gmail.com> <47A8C9A5.70804@fedoraproject.org> <47A8CB0C.7070409@gmail.com> <47A8D18D.2060605@fedoraproject.org> <1202247902.2908.13.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <47A8DDF6.6090508@gmail.com> <1202254224.2908.34.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <47A94A88.2040501@gmail.com> <47A9C799.5040105@gmail.com> <47A9D097.7090409@gmail.com> <47A9D9C8.6040803@gmail.com> <47A9DED2.4060003@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47A9E10D.3080501@gmail.com> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Kelly Miller wrote: >> Go and tell that to the people who run KDE and use Firefox and/or >> Thunderbird as their main browser/email client. I guess they'd rather >> have their principle programs stick out like sore thumbs. >> >> Can I predict that you run Gnome as your main desktop? I've noticed >> that this sort of attitude seems to come from Gnome-centric people who >> feel that having anything Qt-related on their system is a corruption >> of FLOSS, and ignore anyone who tries to run both at the same time. > > Is not a corruption of FLOSS, is a break of the visual consistency, an > unneeded waste of resources (have in RAM the supporting libraries for > both toolkits) and and an awful increase in the startup speed of the > apps using the *other* toolkit. Not only the resources, Nicu. Think about Martin's Sourada and others work - they're doing what they can to make Echo both-compatible. @Kelly: tell me, why XFCE can use GNOME's icon themes with success and KDE cannot? From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 16:27:03 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:27:03 +0100 Subject: Echo future In-Reply-To: <47A9D9C8.6040803@gmail.com> References: <47A8B5C8.8090303@gmail.com> <47A8B6DC.10902@fedoraproject.org> <47A8C8AC.7030407@gmail.com> <47A8C9A5.70804@fedoraproject.org> <47A8CB0C.7070409@gmail.com> <47A8D18D.2060605@fedoraproject.org> <1202247902.2908.13.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <47A8DDF6.6090508@gmail.com> <1202254224.2908.34.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <47A94A88.2040501@gmail.com> <47A9C799.5040105@gmail.com> <47A9D097.7090409@gmail.com> <47A9D9C8.6040803@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1202315223.2721.9.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 11:01 -0500, Kelly Miller wrote: > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > > QtCurve doesn't work well with GTK. > Funny, it works perfectly fine when I use it. > > Most GNOME people don't want KDE's features and appearance, and vice > > versa. > > > > If someone mixes them, his problem. > Go and tell that to the people who run KDE and use Firefox and/or > Thunderbird as their main browser/email client. I guess they'd rather > have their principle programs stick out like sore thumbs. > > Can I predict that you run Gnome as your main desktop? I've noticed > that this sort of attitude seems to come from Gnome-centric people who > feel that having anything Qt-related on their system is a corruption of > FLOSS, and ignore anyone who tries to run both at the same time. > In my case it's rather not liking the way KDE folks tend to make their applications look and behave like and I also wanted in past totally consistent desktop, which lead me to find great pieces of software I hadn't use or even known of at all previously (evolution, epiphany, brasero, listen). You know, just now, whenever I try a KDE app in GNOME it sucks, because it really does not fit the gnome philosophy which I am so used to, but the same would go for gnome apps in KDE environment. But I perfectly understand the reason why people use cross desktop/not-native applications as I used to do it as well and I'd like them to have the option to at least have the looks similar (we cannot alter the 'feel' part). And you know, even when you manage somehow to find a gtk/qt themes that look precisely same and the same goes for an icon theme, you can tell which app is from gnome and which from KDE with quite a good accuracy. It's because the different approaches the projects have chosen and it's what really makes kde apps look weird in gnome, it's not about FLOSS at all, you know KDE is just as FLOSS as Gnome. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Jakub, Please just discuss artwork contributions and ideas here and be polite about it. You insist on creating off-topic threads and flame baits every now and then which is not useful to anyone. Rahul From tchung at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 6 17:50:19 2008 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:50:19 -0800 Subject: Generic Fedora Poster Designs for Events In-Reply-To: <47A96197.5010900@fedoraproject.org> References: <47A96197.5010900@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <369bce3b0802060950p2b5ed148i26296a9c91c42be@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 5, 2008 11:28 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi, > > Joerg Simon pointed out to me the need for generic (e.g., not specific > to any release or event) and re-usable poster designs for event booths. > > I took a stab at a 3-poster series. They are simple designs but maybe > they would be catchy for an event booth. The palette could definitely > use tweaking, I am sure there are 3 colors that would work better. I > think the text is pretty hokey too. Actually, I think as I went along > each poster's gets hokier and hokier ;-) Anyhow, here they are: > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/fedora-poster-designs.png (svg in > same dir) > > I think the general layout and approach (1) one fedora idea/principle > (2) short explanation of what it means for Fedora (3) nice shiny Fedora > logo could be a good one for the purpose. I think the repetition of > three similar (but slightly different) posters in the booth would also > look slick. I designed these posters with the idea that they could be > roughly 36" x 24". (Standard US poster size, but could easily be tweaked > for other specific standard sizes near that ratio.) > > What do you think? > > ~m They are excellent. I think we can use it upcoming SCALE6X[1] Thank you M?ir?n! [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/SCALE/SCALE6X ps. Please post it to either Artwork or Markting project wiki page. -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Wed Feb 6 18:03:34 2008 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:03:34 +0100 Subject: Help handling inkscape with fedora 9 banner In-Reply-To: <47A9D29B.2080300@fedoraproject.org> References: <20080206133308.111a6cb3@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47A9B1D7.1020600@nicubunu.ro> <20080206143736.411efc43@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47A9BC9A.6060804@nicubunu.ro> <1202306944.47a9bf8090c6e@ssl0.ovh.net> <47A9C2FA.6080904@nicubunu.ro> <1202309304.47a9c8b898aae@ssl0.ovh.net> <47A9D230.6040503@fedoraproject.org> <47A9D29B.2080300@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20080206190334.703c5c01@annifrid.mrtomlinux> Le Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:30:35 -0500, M?ir?n Duffy a ?crit : > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org wrote: > > >> I'm quite proud of the result i got :) > > > > Oooh a translation, let's see it :) > > > > (Btw did you translate from within inkscap > > > > Whoops accidentally hit send before I was finished. > > What I was wondering is if you translated from within Inkscape's UI > or did you modify the SVG xml in a text editor and just use inkscape > to export the PNG? > > Also I did do it in a development build of Inkscape so if there are > issues that is probably why. :( > I translated into the UI of Inkscape and learn a lot from the issues :) Thanks ! 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I have some ideas to possibly use instead of those graphics, including changes in art style, and we'll see how those turn out. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From tshimulu at gmail.com Wed Feb 6 19:10:54 2008 From: tshimulu at gmail.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:10:54 -0800 Subject: Help handling inkscape with fedora 9 banner In-Reply-To: <20080206190334.703c5c01@annifrid.mrtomlinux> References: <20080206133308.111a6cb3@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47A9B1D7.1020600@nicubunu.ro> <20080206143736.411efc43@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47A9BC9A.6060804@nicubunu.ro> <1202306944.47a9bf8090c6e@ssl0.ovh.net> <47A9C2FA.6080904@nicubunu.ro> <1202309304.47a9c8b898aae@ssl0.ovh.net> <47A9D230.6040503@fedoraproject.org> <47A9D29B.2080300@fedoraproject.org> <20080206190334.703c5c01@annifrid.mrtomlinux> Message-ID: 2008/2/6 Thomas Canniot : > > I translated into the UI of Inkscape and learn a lot from the issues :) > Thanks ! > > Thomas > > There is a guide that allow translation for any language, courtesy of Andy. http://andy.brisgeek.com/archives/45 -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Project Contributor Fedora Artwork -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If they are invalid, you'll be given straight notice, that it is > not an issue or us, and if they are valid, they will not be forgotten. > Given how much spare time I, and I suppose Luya as well, have, it's hard > for the two of us to be making fast progress, but I hope that now when > we have finally decided about the guidelines we can attract more people > to contribute. > > Martin > I have read the original post and don't bother to reply when someone keeps complaining without activity participating by said submitting a bug report. As pointed out, we have daily stuffs to do and I am busy with assignments from class. Until the OP changed his approach, I will totally ignore it. Be fortunate to not deal with some closed source business. Regards, -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Project Contributor Fedora Artwork -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(I found the following tango usb stick icons, which could be of some use: http://www.chipx86.com/blog/?p=206 http://quantum-bits.org/?page_id=3) Thanks! luke From tchung at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 7 08:38:52 2008 From: tchung at fedoraproject.org (Thomas Chung) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 00:38:52 -0800 Subject: Generic Fedora Poster Designs for Events In-Reply-To: <47AA8AF4.3030009@fedoraproject.org> References: <47A96197.5010900@fedoraproject.org> <10e0a9b00802061829nce0c74agee1b63ed56ca3442@mail.gmail.com> <7874d9dd0802061857y10a09ec8rf6ccaa81e3748b07@mail.gmail.com> <47AA8AF4.3030009@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <369bce3b0802070038n32c9f00eo2f01358dfd9b5120@mail.gmail.com> On 2/6/08, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > I think the text might be kinda crack rock tho. I'm gonna make a blog > post about them with the text in plain text to get a wider audience and > see if I can get some revisions for the text. > > I really do want to change the background colors too, they are a bit > hideous. :( > > ~m Hi Mo, Please correct me if I'm wrong but I thought we supposed to use "freedom. voice. infinity" instead of "infinity. freedom. voice" according to PDF version of manual at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo I've already asked my local vendor to print X numbers of Fedora T-shirts with "freedom. voice. infinity" :( Thomas -- Thomas Chung http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ThomasChung From bthomas21 at zoominternet.net Fri Feb 8 04:00:35 2008 From: bthomas21 at zoominternet.net (Brandon Thomas) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:00:35 -0500 Subject: f9 round 2: waves In-Reply-To: <98b358090802050116q13d7a71tc94a04ed24043d3e@mail.gmail.com> References: <47A173C2.9040400@redhat.com> <98b358090802050116q13d7a71tc94a04ed24043d3e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1202443235.3267.7.camel@bts-laptop> I really like the waves idea. It took a bit to grow on me though. I also really like the vertical and horizontal designs of the sulfuric waves. While it looks wicked sweet, I'm having a little difficulty in seeing the freedom. infinity. voice in it. Looking at it really reminds me of Legos. Keep up the steps forward though. 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A variation of the Fedora logo would have the same protections as the logo itself and leads to the same issues we are trying to avoid by suggesting the use of a mascot that lends itself to artistic freedoms and creative uses. Keep the mascot completely separate from the logo. Rahul From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 18:05:05 2008 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 12:05:05 -0600 Subject: new tshirts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47AC99D1.8040301@gmail.com> One idea I had last night while reading my e-mail offline at home, was putting the refined versions of Mairin's poster designs and using them on the shirts. The designs that have the 3 parts of one of Fedora's motto on it. We could sell them individually and perhaps as a 3 pack at a discount rate. Max Spevack wrote: > Hi art team, > > We would like to make tshirts for a variety of Fedora needs. I > thought I would email this list to see if folks here wanted to work on > ideas, etc. > > This is a very liberal request -- I don't want to put any restrictions > on your ideas or designs. > > Stuff we are looking for: > > * A "general" Fedora tshirt, to replace the one we have now that is > just the Fedora logo on the front. This will be our "main" swag item > for, say, the next year. > > * a tshirt for FUDCon at the Red Hat Summit in Boston, June 2008, for > everyone who shows up. > > * a tshirt for Fedora @ LinuxTag (biggest linux show in europe) in > Berlin, May 2008, for the people in the booth and also as a giveaway. > > * now that we have a codename for Fedora 9, maybe some sort of tshirt > that is derived from the Fedora 9 theme/artwork. > > Just thought I'd see what kind of discussion this generates, and try > to start the discussion with a lot of lead time. > > thanks! As always, you guys are awesome. > > --Max > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri Feb 8 23:39:48 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 14:39:48 -0900 Subject: Fedora Mascot Idea.... In-Reply-To: <47AC1DB1.8020705@fedoraproject.org> References: <9706cad20802071523p5403d027s7748958dbd95915e@mail.gmail.com> <47AC1DB1.8020705@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <604aa7910802081539we848180rc23c807bdeb5ecd6@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 8, 2008 12:15 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > A interesting idea but not one I like. A variation of the Fedora logo > would have the same protections as the logo itself and leads to the same > issues we are trying to avoid by suggesting the use of a mascot that > lends itself to artistic freedoms and creative uses. Keep the mascot > completely separate from the logo. Or to put it another way... can you take your seahorse idea and rework it so that its not confusing with the logo? The other problem is.. we have a desktop application actually named.. seahorse. That's probably a reasonable reason to avoid using a seahorse as a mascot for Fedora. -jef"Is really tempted to drag out his scapegoat svg as offer it up for mascot consideration...again"spaleta From linux at elfshadow.net Sat Feb 9 02:40:11 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:40:11 -0500 Subject: Store SIG mockup page Message-ID: <10e0a9b00802081840l78a82ce8q60de51d3853a05c2@mail.gmail.com> I am sure several have seen some of the things the Store SIG has been working on. If not, here is a link to the SIG for a brief summary: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store I come asking for some help from the art team in creating a rough mockup of what a store.fp.o page might look like. I have also placed a request on the Page Requests section of the websites group as well. The Fedora store page at this time is to be a place to help direct people to the locations they can purchase Fedora merchandise from. We are looking for a mockup of a page that can provide links for Ambassadors looking for merchandise in bulk and for Fedora users looking to purchase merchandise and will ultimately be redirected to a third-party vendor. In addition we would like to be able to showcase some product on the landing page. We also have a general requirements page listed here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store/GeneralRequirements If anyone is interested in helping out, that would be great. Just let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! Jeffrey From duffy at fedoraproject.org Sat Feb 9 04:12:07 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:12:07 -0500 Subject: Generic Fedora Poster Designs for Events In-Reply-To: <10e0a9b00802061829nce0c74agee1b63ed56ca3442@mail.gmail.com> References: <47A96197.5010900@fedoraproject.org> <10e0a9b00802061829nce0c74agee1b63ed56ca3442@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47AD2817.5030507@fedoraproject.org> Hi folks, I've updated the posters using the color suggestions from John Adams and the text Paul Frields gave me in my blog [1] (with one minor mod) and some layout suggestions from Robin Norwood in IRC (the original design had the infinity sign flattened, it's readjusted to resemble its position in the logo and some of the sizing of the logo elements is changed.) I'm pretty satisfied with where they are at now, what do you think? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral#head-3eacb7cfafb67dcefa9870863e51c8c16745db02 I think the copy is good enough now that if you'd like to translate the poster please feel free. The font that I created this with is MgOpen Modata which is OFL and available in Fedora, by the way. Thanks to everyone who helped out and provided feedback and encouragement, it is greatly appreciated! Thanks, ~m [1] http://mihmo.livejournal.com/52591.html?nc=14 From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Sat Feb 9 08:01:46 2008 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 03:01:46 -0500 Subject: [Round 2]Shoowa Theme update Message-ID: <1202544106.47ad5dea609bf@ssl.mecca.ca> Updated Shoowa theme. Using the geometrical form close to abstraction. The theme is made for color variation (use of transparency to allow the plain background change in real time using the script)in mind and the change of shape weekly. Reference --------- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Shoowa -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga From jjmasek at gmail.com Sat Feb 9 14:24:18 2008 From: jjmasek at gmail.com (Jiri Jakub Masek) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 15:24:18 +0100 Subject: [Round 2]Shoowa Theme update In-Reply-To: <1202544106.47ad5dea609bf@ssl.mecca.ca> References: <1202544106.47ad5dea609bf@ssl.mecca.ca> Message-ID: Hi, the first one looks better, good work JJM 2008/2/9, Luya Tshimbalanga : > > Updated Shoowa theme. Using the geometrical form close to abstraction. 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Thanks! -Jon -- Jon Stanley Fedora Bug Wrangler jstanley at fedoraproject.org From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Feb 11 08:34:46 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:34:46 +0200 Subject: [Round 2]Shoowa Theme update In-Reply-To: <1202544106.47ad5dea609bf@ssl.mecca.ca> References: <1202544106.47ad5dea609bf@ssl.mecca.ca> Message-ID: <47B008A6.3040007@nicubunu.ro> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Updated Shoowa theme. Using the geometrical form close to abstraction. The theme > is made for color variation (use of transparency to allow the plain background > change in real time using the script)in mind and the change of shape weekly. Interesting. But I find the gradient too strong, it goes from light blue to white, that white hurts my eyes, I think it should go to a lighter blue. > Reference > --------- > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Shoowa -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From mola.mp at gmail.com Mon Feb 11 11:28:42 2008 From: mola.mp at gmail.com (Mola Pahnadayan) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:58:42 +0330 Subject: Pokemon theme update Message-ID: <47B0316A.6000303@gmail.com> Hi all i upload new image. the text in behinde is only for test not final , in final erase text. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/electric-sphere Mola From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Feb 11 12:48:20 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:48:20 +0200 Subject: Pokemon theme update In-Reply-To: <47B0316A.6000303@gmail.com> References: <47B0316A.6000303@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47B04414.7070208@nicubunu.ro> Mola Pahnadayan wrote: > Hi all Hi, > i upload new image. > the text in behinde is only for test not final , in final erase text. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/electric-sphere Mola, do not forget one thing: for a proposal to qualify for Round 2 it need at least 3 supporting graphics: vertical, horizontal and square, you may consider providing those too (even if they are cut from the wallpaper) Also, I see you insist on using things which would disqualify your design, like the release number and the word "Fedora" on the wallpaper (I also have a feeling the "pokemon" may be troublesome) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Mon Feb 11 18:49:52 2008 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:49:52 -0600 Subject: Round 2 theme Message-ID: <47B098D0.7090303@gmail.com> Due to lack of refinement and lack of time, I'm pulling my Freedom theme proposal out of the running for Fedora 9, and throwing my support behind the Waves proposal. Hopefully this fall, I can have my concept refined and more ready and perhaps we can free ourselves in Fedora 10. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Feb 12 00:50:11 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:50:11 -0900 Subject: Pokemon theme update In-Reply-To: <47B04414.7070208@nicubunu.ro> References: <47B0316A.6000303@gmail.com> <47B04414.7070208@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <604aa7910802111650x673f6c02m7d12c46e155b4865@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 11, 2008 3:48 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > (I also have a feeling the "pokemon" may be troublesome) I gauruntee it. Even the 'ball' graphic itself might be a problem. It's really unfortunate that Mola persists with this. The effort being put forth is out of touch with the constraints on keeping the artwork free of trademark...confusion. -jef From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Feb 12 01:58:04 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 16:58:04 -0900 Subject: [Round 2]Shoowa Theme update In-Reply-To: <47B008A6.3040007@nicubunu.ro> References: <1202544106.47ad5dea609bf@ssl.mecca.ca> <47B008A6.3040007@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <604aa7910802111758m1e622102k2c87eda5c1a1b1ac@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 10, 2008 11:34 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Interesting. > But I find the gradient too strong, it goes from light blue to white, > that white hurts my eyes, I think it should go to a lighter blue. needs...more...purple! What i think would be interesting as a change...would be to blur the shapes more as they move left and blend into the background. So on the far right you have sharply defined 'diamonds' in the foreground, with very hard lines.. almost hyper contrasted with the background. But as you move left they become more rounded and fuzzy edged as the color tones blend to whatever constant color is on the left hand edge of the image. -jef From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Tue Feb 12 07:53:49 2008 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:53:49 -0500 Subject: [Round 2]Shoowa Theme update In-Reply-To: <604aa7910802111758m1e622102k2c87eda5c1a1b1ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <1202544106.47ad5dea609bf@ssl.mecca.ca> <47B008A6.3040007@nicubunu.ro> <604aa7910802111758m1e622102k2c87eda5c1a1b1ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1202802829.47b1508deb44e@ssl.mecca.ca> Quoting Jeff Spaleta : > needs...more...purple! > > What i think would be interesting as a change...would be to blur the > shapes more as they move left and blend into the background. So on > the far right you have sharply defined 'diamonds' in the foreground, > with very hard lines.. almost hyper contrasted with the background. > But as you move left they become more rounded and fuzzy edged as the > color tones blend to whatever constant color is on the left hand edge > of the image. > > -jef I have updated the theme following the suggestion. Since it is a draft, I have added purple colours as I take consideration to let transparent background in a near future. Later, depending the verdict, I will play with the shape that represent each day of the week while the colours represent from morning to night (similar to the current Infiniti background). I wonder if each desktop manager added support for APNG. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Shoowa -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Feb 12 17:11:47 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:11:47 -0900 Subject: [Round 2]Shoowa Theme update In-Reply-To: <1202802829.47b1508deb44e@ssl.mecca.ca> References: <1202544106.47ad5dea609bf@ssl.mecca.ca> <47B008A6.3040007@nicubunu.ro> <604aa7910802111758m1e622102k2c87eda5c1a1b1ac@mail.gmail.com> <1202802829.47b1508deb44e@ssl.mecca.ca> Message-ID: <604aa7910802120911m75a1e13fw7904951771cf26e3@mail.gmail.com> On Feb 11, 2008 10:53 PM, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Shoowa Almost... the 2nd to last one almost has the very narrrow depth of field feeling that I'm looking for, but the objects at the far right needs to be sharper...they need to 'pop'. Add some minor interior detail on the far right ones maybe that helps to bring that line of objects into sharper focus. For example bring the interior detail from the banners into the objects in the wallpaper. In fact the banners are really close to what I was thinking. Though you might play with the composition a little and overlap objects just slightly from left to right. So that the objects in sharp focus appear to be in front of the blurrier objects. The last one is different than what I was trying to describe... but I like it. -jef From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 13 03:04:07 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:34:07 +0530 Subject: Art Studio Status Message-ID: <47B25E27.5080108@fedoraproject.org> Hi, A few questions: * What is the general status of the spin? * What are the base minimum set of packages that we need before we can do a release? * Do we have a explicit wishlist of packages sorted by priority? I am interested in helping out by driving it through the current process for creating spins and maybe help in packaging some applications but the amount of information and links in the wiki is completely overwhelming and I need someone or a team to help me understand the status better. Rahul From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Feb 13 07:08:43 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:08:43 +0200 Subject: Art Studio Status In-Reply-To: <47B25E27.5080108@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B25E27.5080108@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47B2977B.80900@nicubunu.ro> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi, > > A few questions: > > * What is the general status of the spin? As far as I know, it is still in the *idea* stage. We have two initiatives on this, which should merge somehow: the initial proposal made by Mo in the F8 timeframe which was temporarily put on hold and the idea from Colby Hoke which is mostly interested in video editing (but the software for it isn't there yet). I hope the two will speak up if my understanding is incorrect. > * What are the base minimum set of packages that we need before we can > do a release? > * Do we have a explicit wishlist of packages sorted by priority? For both the questions the answer is this (not updated recently) page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ArtTeamProjects/FedoraArtStudio/PackageManifest > I am interested in helping out by driving it through the current process > for creating spins and maybe help in packaging some applications but the > amount of information and links in the wiki is completely overwhelming > and I need someone or a team to help me understand the status better. It seems like the two people involved directly are busy for the moment and a person driving the initiative would be really useful. Otherwise I suspect we will postpone it for a future release. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Feb 13 08:02:27 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:02:27 +0200 Subject: Round 2 has ended Message-ID: <47B2A413.5020409@nicubunu.ro> Round 2 has ended, and we have two proposals standing (the others are either pulled by their authors or are not fulfilling the requirements): - Waves, by Martin with Mo's "sulfuric" modification: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves - Shoowa, by Lyua: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Shoowa I blogged about them, I hope we will get better fedback this time: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2008/02/fedora-8-artwork-round-2.html (in fact I am sure we will get better feedback, I recently joined FWN as a writer covering the Art list, so I will ensure this is covered by FWN's next issue). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 09:22:07 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:22:07 +0100 Subject: [Echo] package-x-generic Message-ID: <1202894527.6856.4.camel@pc-notebook> Hi, I've just finished first attempt on Echo package-x-generic. 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It is > derived directly from the Lighting section of the guidelines [1], only > optimised for smaller sizes. > > I attach 48x48, 22x22 and 16x16 png, complete set (with SVGs) can be > found at [2]. > > Thanks for comments, > Martin > > References: > [1] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines#Lighting > [2] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/MimeTypes/ > It's better for me if i'm not gonna post critics about this one.. my opinion about this one is known. If i look at it (functional only) than it looks great! good job Martin! From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 19:33:22 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:33:22 +0100 Subject: [Echo] package-x-generic In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80802131047r6fa9db91uba07f6f54da14e4b@mail.gmail.com> References: <1202894527.6856.4.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80802131047r6fa9db91uba07f6f54da14e4b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1202931202.6856.16.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 19:47 +0100, Mark wrote: > 2008/2/13, Martin Sourada : > > Hi, > > > > I've just finished first attempt on Echo package-x-generic. It is > > derived directly from the Lighting section of the guidelines [1], only > > optimised for smaller sizes. > > > > I attach 48x48, 22x22 and 16x16 png, complete set (with SVGs) can be > > found at [2]. > > > > Thanks for comments, > > Martin > > > > References: > > [1] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines#Lighting > > [2] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/MimeTypes/ > > > > It's better for me if i'm not gonna post critics about this one.. my > opinion about this one is known. If i look at it (functional only) > than it looks great! good job Martin! > Yeah, IIRC you would like to have it brighter. To be fair, when I looked it - only at the package - I had that feeling as well and brightened it a little, compared to the one in guidelines. Now when I added it to my Echo icon theme private copy it looks good (especially when displayed on desktop, against F8 default background). 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Luckily mostly only places/status/mimetypes/action icons are usually displayed at this size. ad 5. yep, we were criticised a lot about having 3-D icons for 22x22, the article specifically talks about 16x16 and smaller. Yet, we decided, to drop perspective for <= 24x24 action icons. A compromise between usability as slickness I'd say... ad 6. yes, this one is crucial. We need to use widely recognised metaphors, but I believe so far there are not much icons (maybe none) that violates this ad 10. this one is the most problematic, people usually forgot (or don't care?) about this step, which results in a blurry icon, and that's the reason why you see my comments about pixel grid alignment in nearly every thread related to new icon creation... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Martin Sourada wrote: > On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 14:03 -0600, Michael Beckwith wrote: > >> http://turbomilk.com/truestories/cookbook/criticism/10-mistakes-in-icon-design/ >> >> > > Thanks for the link, > > from my experience with Echo icons we usually tend to be aware of these > mistakes, but: > > ad 1. especially in 16x16, this goal seems to be sometimes hard to > achieve, I personally believe the package-x-generic icon I am working on > ATM (see the other thread here) might have some problems with this. > Luckily mostly only places/status/mimetypes/action icons are usually > displayed at this size. > > ad 5. yep, we were criticised a lot about having 3-D icons for 22x22, > the article specifically talks about 16x16 and smaller. Yet, we decided, > to drop perspective for <= 24x24 action icons. A compromise between > usability as slickness I'd say... > > ad 6. yes, this one is crucial. We need to use widely recognised > metaphors, but I believe so far there are not much icons (maybe none) > that violates this > > ad 10. this one is the most problematic, people usually forgot (or don't > care?) about this step, which results in a blurry icon, and that's the > reason why you see my comments about pixel grid alignment in nearly > every thread related to new icon creation... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm not an Echo icon developer and I did quite a bit of work on waves... ~m From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 20:58:55 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:58:55 +0100 Subject: Round 2 has ended In-Reply-To: References: <47B2A413.5020409@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1202936335.6856.33.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 20:52 +0000, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Isn't it ironic the two themes that made on round 3 for Fedora 9 are > done by two Echo icon theme developers? > > -- > Luya Tshimbalanga > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga > Fedora Project Contributor > Fedora Artwork Just a coincidence ;-) Besides, mine wouldn't make it but thanks to Mo :-) Cheers, Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Round 3 will be interesting considering the level of designs (Expert against novice similar to Pro vs Joe). -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Project Contributor Fedora Artwork -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 21:19:21 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:19:21 +0100 Subject: Round 2 has ended In-Reply-To: <47B35A14.7070805@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B2A413.5020409@nicubunu.ro> <47B35A14.7070805@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1202937562.6856.44.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 15:59 -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > > Isn't it ironic the two themes that made on round 3 for Fedora 9 are > > done by two Echo icon theme developers? > > I'm not an Echo icon developer and I did quite a bit of work on waves... > > ~m > Yeah, and thanks for that, it's great. BTW. I wanted to play around with some of the sulphuric F9 alpha banners (and perhaps create matching background for the theme) you made, but inkscape seems to have problems with it. I even tried latest development snapshot of inkscape (it has a lot of new great features, btw) with no luck. Did you saved the SVG as 'Plain SVG' or 'Inkscape SVG' (I think that could matter)? Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 13 21:31:13 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:31:13 -0500 Subject: Round 2 has ended In-Reply-To: <1202937562.6856.44.camel@pc-notebook> References: <47B2A413.5020409@nicubunu.ro> <47B35A14.7070805@fedoraproject.org> <1202937562.6856.44.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <47B361A1.4040902@fedoraproject.org> Martin Sourada wrote: > On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 15:59 -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: >>> Isn't it ironic the two themes that made on round 3 for Fedora 9 are >>> done by two Echo icon theme developers? >> I'm not an Echo icon developer and I did quite a bit of work on waves... >> >> ~m >> > Yeah, and thanks for that, it's great. > > BTW. I wanted to play around with some of the sulphuric F9 alpha banners > (and perhaps create matching background for the theme) you made, but > inkscape seems to have problems with it. I even tried latest development > snapshot of inkscape (it has a lot of new great features, btw) with no > luck. Did you saved the SVG as 'Plain SVG' or 'Inkscape SVG' (I think > that could matter)? It's Inkscape SVG. I can try to resave as plain SVG? I'm using the Oct 26 autopackage build. Do the latest snapshots install on Fedora using autopackage? ~m From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 13 21:34:18 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:34:18 -0500 Subject: Round 2 has ended In-Reply-To: References: <47B2A413.5020409@nicubunu.ro> <47B35A14.7070805@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47B3625A.5030206@fedoraproject.org> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > > > On Feb 13, 2008 8:59 PM, M?ir?n Duffy > wrote: > > > I'm not an Echo icon developer and I did quite a bit of work on waves... > > ~m > > The original Wave idea is from Martin. Maybe s/made/proposed then? Although I still fail to see any irony in the situation... o_O I think it's important to focus on things like folks working together as a team rather than highlighting differences or conflicts. ~m From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 21:41:57 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:41:57 +0100 Subject: Round 2 has ended In-Reply-To: <47B361A1.4040902@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B2A413.5020409@nicubunu.ro> <47B35A14.7070805@fedoraproject.org> <1202937562.6856.44.camel@pc-notebook> <47B361A1.4040902@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1202938917.6856.55.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 16:31 -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 15:59 -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > >>> Isn't it ironic the two themes that made on round 3 for Fedora 9 are > >>> done by two Echo icon theme developers? > >> I'm not an Echo icon developer and I did quite a bit of work on waves... > >> > >> ~m > >> > > Yeah, and thanks for that, it's great. > > > > BTW. I wanted to play around with some of the sulphuric F9 alpha banners > > (and perhaps create matching background for the theme) you made, but > > inkscape seems to have problems with it. I even tried latest development > > snapshot of inkscape (it has a lot of new great features, btw) with no > > luck. Did you saved the SVG as 'Plain SVG' or 'Inkscape SVG' (I think > > that could matter)? > > It's Inkscape SVG. I can try to resave as plain SVG? > Perhaps. You might be able see the difference in e.g. eog or in nautilus preview (it is pretty as much misrendered as in inkscape) > I'm using the Oct 26 autopackage build. Do the latest snapshots install > on Fedora using autopackage? > > ~m > I've built it from source that I downloaded recently from their svn (and did it as local install, so that I didn't messed up my rpm installed inkscape). Just plain ./autogen.sh, installing all needed *-devel pkgs, ./configure --prefix=..., make and make install ;-) The latest rawhide package is built from sources into rpm, but it seems there are some patches as well (not sure whether taken from upstream, or fedora specific). No autopackage. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Just plain ./autogen.sh, installing all needed *-devel > pkgs, ./configure --prefix=..., make and make install ;-) Yeh, I do know how to compile software from source but I really prefer not to. > > The latest rawhide package is built from sources into rpm, but it seems > there are some patches as well (not sure whether taken from upstream, or > fedora specific). No autopackage. Is the latest rawhide package built using the .46 devel version? ~m From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 21:56:18 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:56:18 +0100 Subject: Round 2 has ended In-Reply-To: <47B365F1.6030205@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B2A413.5020409@nicubunu.ro> <47B35A14.7070805@fedoraproject.org> <1202937562.6856.44.camel@pc-notebook> <47B361A1.4040902@fedoraproject.org> <1202938917.6856.55.camel@pc-notebook> <47B365F1.6030205@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1202939778.6856.60.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 16:49 -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > I've built it from source that I downloaded recently from their svn (and > > did it as local install, so that I didn't messed up my rpm installed > > inkscape). Just plain ./autogen.sh, installing all needed *-devel > > pkgs, ./configure --prefix=..., make and make install ;-) > > Yeh, I do know how to compile software from source but I really prefer > not to. I prefer to have control as to how, where and what will be installed, but this is not important here ;-) > > > > The latest rawhide package is built from sources into rpm, but it seems > > there are some patches as well (not sure whether taken from upstream, or > > fedora specific). No autopackage. > > Is the latest rawhide package built using the .46 devel version? > > ~m > Yep, but it is noted rather strangely in the release field: * Wed Feb 13 2008 Lubomir Kundrak - 0.45.1 +0.46pre1-3 - Fix crash when adding text objects (#432220) * Thu Feb 07 2008 Lubomir Kundrak - 0.45.1+0.46pre1-2 - Build with gcc-4.3 * Wed Feb 06 2008 Lubomir Kundrak - 0.45.1+0.46pre1-1 - 0.46 prerelease - Minor cosmetic changes to satisfy the QA script - Dependency on Boost - Inkboard is not optional - Merge from Denis Leroy's svn16571 snapshot: - Require specific gtkmm24-devel versions - enable-poppler-cairo - No longer BuildRequire libsigc++20-devel Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 13 22:28:19 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:28:19 -0500 Subject: Round 2 has ended In-Reply-To: <1202939778.6856.60.camel@pc-notebook> References: <47B2A413.5020409@nicubunu.ro> <47B35A14.7070805@fedoraproject.org> <1202937562.6856.44.camel@pc-notebook> <47B361A1.4040902@fedoraproject.org> <1202938917.6856.55.camel@pc-notebook> <47B365F1.6030205@fedoraproject.org> <1202939778.6856.60.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <47B36F03.4080701@fedoraproject.org> Martin Sourada wrote: > On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 16:49 -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Martin Sourada wrote: >>> I've built it from source that I downloaded recently from their svn (and >>> did it as local install, so that I didn't messed up my rpm installed >>> inkscape). Just plain ./autogen.sh, installing all needed *-devel >>> pkgs, ./configure --prefix=..., make and make install ;-) >> Yeh, I do know how to compile software from source but I really prefer >> not to. > I prefer to have control as to how, where and what will be installed, > but this is not important here ;-) > >>> The latest rawhide package is built from sources into rpm, but it seems >>> there are some patches as well (not sure whether taken from upstream, or >>> fedora specific). No autopackage. >> Is the latest rawhide package built using the .46 devel version? >> >> ~m >> > Yep, but it is noted rather strangely in the release field: Sweet! I'll try saving out as plain svg with the version i have and if that doesn't work ill give the rawhide rpm a try. Thanks! ~m From uno at webworks.se Thu Feb 14 00:48:03 2008 From: uno at webworks.se (Uno Engborg) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:48:03 +0100 Subject: Round 2 has ended In-Reply-To: <47B2A413.5020409@nicubunu.ro> References: <47B2A413.5020409@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <9f9040190802131648u19a3dad8j981fb3c4ca366b9@mail.gmail.com> The sulphur images looks nice. It's calm and nonintrusive Speaking of calm, I hope we never se animated waves as a background.That would be extremely annoying. I also think that the color of the wave is more than a bit too bright, It sort of reminds me of the early releases of CentOS. Among the various sulphur images, I would prefer the ones that either have just a fedora logo, or just the sulphur chrystals, combining the logo and the chrystal is a bit too much. (and a small logo on the sulphur chrystal could easily be taken for an icon, and confuse the user) Great work! 2008/2/13, Nicu Buculei : > > Round 2 has ended, and we have two proposals standing (the others are > either pulled by their authors or are not fulfilling the requirements): > > - Waves, by Martin with Mo's "sulfuric" modification: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves > > - Shoowa, by Lyua: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Shoowa > > I blogged about them, I hope we will get better fedback this time: > http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2008/02/fedora-8-artwork-round-2.html > > (in fact I am sure we will get better feedback, I recently joined FWN as > a writer covering the Art list, so I will ensure this is covered by > FWN's next issue). > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Feb 14 06:45:55 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:45:55 +0200 Subject: Round 2 has ended In-Reply-To: <47B361A1.4040902@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B2A413.5020409@nicubunu.ro> <47B35A14.7070805@fedoraproject.org> <1202937562.6856.44.camel@pc-notebook> <47B361A1.4040902@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47B3E3A3.6080200@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > I'm using the Oct 26 autopackage build. Do the latest snapshots install > on Fedora using autopackage? Oh, that's ancient :p That Oct 26 build used to be the latest known working package, but in January they resumed building usable packages, they are near the top of the download page [1]. I just upgraded from the Jan 19 to Feb 13 build and it seems OK (Inkscape is in release freeze so those are very close to the final 0.46). [1] - http://inkscape.modevia.com/ap/?M=D -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From kevin.kofler at chello.at Thu Feb 14 09:32:56 2008 From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:32:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: 10 Mistakes in Icon Design References: <47B34D0E.4090302@gmail.com> <1202935215.6856.26.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: Martin Sourada gmail.com> writes: > ad 1. especially in 16x16, this goal seems to be sometimes hard to > achieve, I personally believe the package-x-generic icon I am working on > ATM (see the other thread here) might have some problems with this. > Luckily mostly only places/status/mimetypes/action icons are usually > displayed at this size. Careful there, the traditional simple menu in KDE defaults to 16?16 icons, so please don't assume "apps" category icons will never be displayed at that size. Kevin Kofler From martin.sourada at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 12:58:24 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:58:24 +0100 Subject: [Echo] fixing/completing go-* and media-* icons In-Reply-To: <1202936759.6856.38.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1202936759.6856.38.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1202993904.24932.6.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 22:05 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: > Hi, > > I intend to fix the go-* and media-* action icons lot, so that they > would be consistent, would follow closely the guidelines and would be > complete, unless someone objects (like people who might have already > started working on some of these). > > Thanks, > Martin First batch is prepared. I attach go-* for 16x16 size, I'll divide it to individual icons later. 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[1] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From martin.sourada at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 17:02:56 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:02:56 +0100 Subject: [Echo] fixing/completing go-* and media-* icons In-Reply-To: <1203002192.24932.11.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1202936759.6856.38.camel@pc-notebook> <1202993904.24932.6.camel@pc-notebook> <1202996924.24932.8.camel@pc-notebook> <1203002192.24932.11.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1203008576.24932.24.camel@pc-notebook> On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 16:16 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 14:48 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 13:58 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: > > > First batch is prepared. I attach go-* for 16x16 size, I'll divide it to > > > individual icons later. The reason why they are together is that it is > > > easier to see if they are coherent and positioned correct and so I > > > decided to make them together first and separate them later. > > > > > > Comments welcome, > > > Martin > > > > Next batch is prepared. I attach go-* for 22x22 size. > > > > Comments welcome, > > Martin > > Another batch is prepared. I attach go-* for 48x48 size. > > Comments welcome, > Martin And the last batch of go-* icons is complete - 32x32 sized icons. As usual, I attach them in a picture where they are joined together. Unless someone objects, I'll separate them and upload the created icons to git after some time (probably in Saturday). So, as it is created, I'll say some words about it. First, it is simple and uses the gnome metaphors. I made the 48x48 icons from scratch as they violated the guidelines too much - mostly there were perspective and lighting issues. I created all the icons with consistency in mind, so they should all look similar and should be positioned correctly. Compared to the original icons created by Diana Fong I also slightly modified the shapes (as you can see in the files I sent here). I also uploaded all the files to [1]. Thanks for your comments, Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/Actions/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: go-all32.png Type: image/png Size: 14426 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: go-all32.svg Type: image/svg+xml Size: 55658 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From: Lubomir Kundrak Subject: Please test: Major version update of F8 inkscape Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:31:55 +0100 Size: 4108 URL: From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 14 21:36:23 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:36:23 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: Please test: Major version update of F8 inkscape] In-Reply-To: <47B49921.8030703@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B49921.8030703@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47B4B457.9090801@fedoraproject.org> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Upcoming release of Inkscape 0.46 will fix many bugs of 0.45, some of > which were reported also to our bugzilla, and some of which are > security. Rather than backporting those we'll move to the new version > once it's out. Did anyone else test this package? If so, did you have problems using any font other than bitstream vera sans? it won't let me switch fonts. ~m From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 14 21:49:15 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:19:15 +0530 Subject: [Fwd: Please test: Major version update of F8 inkscape] In-Reply-To: <47B4B457.9090801@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B49921.8030703@fedoraproject.org> <47B4B457.9090801@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47B4B75B.7080803@fedoraproject.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Upcoming release of Inkscape 0.46 will fix many bugs of 0.45, some of >> which were reported also to our bugzilla, and some of which are >> security. Rather than backporting those we'll move to the new version >> once it's out. > > Did anyone else test this package? If so, did you have problems using > any font other than bitstream vera sans? it won't let me switch fonts. > I haven't tested the package but note that Bodhi, the Fedora update system supports a light weight means of providing feedback and karma (positive or negative voting) that determines whether the update should be pushed into the main repository or not. Mo has already commented on it but if others testing this package might want to do so. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/pending/inkscape-0.45.1+0.46pre1-4.fc8 Rahul From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 14 21:50:28 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:50:28 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: Please test: Major version update of F8 inkscape] In-Reply-To: <47B4B75B.7080803@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B49921.8030703@fedoraproject.org> <47B4B457.9090801@fedoraproject.org> <47B4B75B.7080803@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47B4B7A4.8070903@fedoraproject.org> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> Upcoming release of Inkscape 0.46 will fix many bugs of 0.45, some of >>> which were reported also to our bugzilla, and some of which are >>> security. Rather than backporting those we'll move to the new version >>> once it's out. >> >> Did anyone else test this package? If so, did you have problems using >> any font other than bitstream vera sans? it won't let me switch fonts. >> > > I haven't tested the package but note that Bodhi, the Fedora update > system supports a light weight means of providing feedback and karma > (positive or negative voting) that determines whether the update should > be pushed into the main repository or not. > > Mo has already commented on it but if others testing this package might > want to do so. > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/pending/inkscape-0.45.1+0.46pre1-4.fc8 Yeh, I'm trying to figure out if it's operator error on my part :) :) I do remember having some weird awkwardness in switching fonts with the old October snapshot I was using before though. ~m From martin.sourada at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 22:05:29 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:05:29 +0100 Subject: [Fwd: Please test: Major version update of F8 inkscape] In-Reply-To: <47B4B7A4.8070903@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B49921.8030703@fedoraproject.org> <47B4B457.9090801@fedoraproject.org> <47B4B75B.7080803@fedoraproject.org> <47B4B7A4.8070903@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1203026729.24932.27.camel@pc-notebook> On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 16:50 -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >>> Upcoming release of Inkscape 0.46 will fix many bugs of 0.45, some of > >>> which were reported also to our bugzilla, and some of which are > >>> security. Rather than backporting those we'll move to the new version > >>> once it's out. > >> > >> Did anyone else test this package? If so, did you have problems using > >> any font other than bitstream vera sans? it won't let me switch fonts. > >> > > > > I haven't tested the package but note that Bodhi, the Fedora update > > system supports a light weight means of providing feedback and karma > > (positive or negative voting) that determines whether the update should > > be pushed into the main repository or not. > > > > Mo has already commented on it but if others testing this package might > > want to do so. > > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/pending/inkscape-0.45.1+0.46pre1-4.fc8 > > Yeh, I'm trying to figure out if it's operator error on my part :) :) I > do remember having some weird awkwardness in switching fonts with the > old October snapshot I was using before though. > > ~m > Looks like font selection does not work on my svn, self-compiled version as well. I am going to give the package a try. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jakub.rusinek at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 14:06:40 2008 From: jakub.rusinek at gmail.com (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:06:40 +0100 Subject: [Echo] fixing/completing go-* and media-* icons In-Reply-To: <1202996924.24932.8.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1202936759.6856.38.camel@pc-notebook> <1202993904.24932.6.camel@pc-notebook> <1202996924.24932.8.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <47B44AF0.5030805@gmail.com> Martin Sourada pisze: > On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 13:58 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: >> First batch is prepared. I attach go-* for 16x16 size, I'll divide it to >> individual icons later. The reason why they are together is that it is >> easier to see if they are coherent and positioned correct and so I >> decided to make them together first and separate them later. >> >> Comments welcome, >> Martin > > Next batch is prepared. I attach go-* for 22x22 size. > > Comments welcome, > Martin > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list Martin, it's strange, but you icons IMO are best Echo icons... From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Feb 15 07:30:44 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:30:44 +0200 Subject: [Fwd: Please test: Major version update of F8 inkscape] In-Reply-To: <47B49921.8030703@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B49921.8030703@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47B53FA4.8090403@nicubunu.ro> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > inkscape-0.45.1+0.46pre1-4.fc8 is pending [1] now. Once it or a later > version is pushed you'll be able to install it with "yum > --enablerepo=updates-testing update inkscape". > > [1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/pending/inkscape-0.45.1+0.46pre1-4.fc8 I am new to Bodhi, can anyone enlighten me how can I install a package which is "pending" and was not yet pushed to mirrors? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 15 07:45:09 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:15:09 +0530 Subject: [Fwd: Please test: Major version update of F8 inkscape] In-Reply-To: <47B53FA4.8090403@nicubunu.ro> References: <47B49921.8030703@fedoraproject.org> <47B53FA4.8090403@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47B54305.10902@fedoraproject.org> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> inkscape-0.45.1+0.46pre1-4.fc8 is pending [1] now. Once it or a later >> version is pushed you'll be able to install it with "yum >> --enablerepo=updates-testing update inkscape". >> >> [1] >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/pending/inkscape-0.45.1+0.46pre1-4.fc8 >> > > I am new to Bodhi, can anyone enlighten me how can I install a package > which is "pending" and was not yet pushed to mirrors? Everytime a maintainer pushes a package, it has to be manually signed and pushed to the repository by the administrators, usually Jesse Keating or Luke Macken. Before it is pushed, the package is available in the Koji build system via the web interface. In this case, http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=36251 Rahul From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Feb 15 08:09:33 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:09:33 +0200 Subject: [Fwd: Please test: Major version update of F8 inkscape] In-Reply-To: <47B54305.10902@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B49921.8030703@fedoraproject.org> <47B53FA4.8090403@nicubunu.ro> <47B54305.10902@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47B548BD.9030405@nicubunu.ro> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Before it is pushed, the package is available in the Koji build system > via the web interface. In this case, > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=36251 Thanks, this is the part I missed, it installed and seems OK. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Feb 15 08:17:20 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:17:20 +0200 Subject: [Fwd: Please test: Major version update of F8 inkscape] In-Reply-To: <47B4B7A4.8070903@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B49921.8030703@fedoraproject.org> <47B4B457.9090801@fedoraproject.org> <47B4B75B.7080803@fedoraproject.org> <47B4B7A4.8070903@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47B54A90.10407@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Mo has already commented on it but if others testing this package >> might want to do so. >> >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/pending/inkscape-0.45.1+0.46pre1-4.fc8 > > Yeh, I'm trying to figure out if it's operator error on my part :) :) I > do remember having some weird awkwardness in switching fonts with the > old October snapshot I was using before though. As I already commented in Bodhi, for me it seems OK, I can change the fonts in any - http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/inkscape_fonts.ogg -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Feb 15 08:48:56 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:48:56 +0100 Subject: [Fwd: Please test: Major version update of F8 inkscape] In-Reply-To: <47B54A90.10407@nicubunu.ro> References: <47B49921.8030703@fedoraproject.org> <47B4B457.9090801@fedoraproject.org> <47B4B75B.7080803@fedoraproject.org> <47B4B7A4.8070903@fedoraproject.org> <47B54A90.10407@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1203065336.24932.31.camel@pc-notebook> On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 10:17 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> Mo has already commented on it but if others testing this package > >> might want to do so. > >> > >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/pending/inkscape-0.45.1+0.46pre1-4.fc8 > > > > Yeh, I'm trying to figure out if it's operator error on my part :) :) I > > do remember having some weird awkwardness in switching fonts with the > > old October snapshot I was using before though. > > As I already commented in Bodhi, for me it seems OK, I can change the > fonts in any - http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/inkscape_fonts.ogg > Strange enough, your inkscape seems to behave a lot better than mine, for one the font family drop down list appears to me only at second try (and this used to happen with 0.45 as well) and for second I cannot change the font (this happens with 0.46). 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Oh, and I have now installed > the rpm and it behaves precisely same as the self-compiled version. It seems to be something really strange with fonts in Inkscape and I am not sure it is caused directly bu the Inkscape builds. For example for at least on year I had font problems (font family not recognized correctly) when exchanging SVG files with Mo, and since then a lot of versions and builds passed. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Feb 15 09:23:04 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:23:04 +0100 Subject: Echo Icons State Report Message-ID: <1203067384.24932.63.camel@pc-notebook> Hi, for those not following Echo recently I decided to summarise the recent happenings. First, it is worth noting, that the Echo icon theme homepage moved to [1], which is a result of fedorahosted.org changes. The certificate is now signed for fh.o so it should work nicely even with the new firefox's security policy. The git repository's web interface is at [2] and in the future we will release source archives in [3] (currently empty). Second, the homepage itself undergone some changes and more will come. More specifically we have prepared new Status page [4] which pulls the latest icons from git and is easily regenerated from sources, so that we can update it whenever new icon is added/removed that is not listed yet. For tracking progress we have created single page [5] and that's the page you are going first if you'd like to create icon and the page you are going to edit when you are creating an icon. Yes, it's the page where developers are supposed to note what icons are they working on. The page for ToDo [6] is currently quite empty, but lists what items needs to be added. In the feature it will serve as our main page for tracking the most needed icons to create or modify. Next, and most importantly, we have a final version of the Echo guidelines [7]. This is so much important because stable guidelines for icon creating are crucial thing - you need to know how your icon is supposed to look like and such a guidelines helps a lot in that. And what are we doing now? I am currently working on the package-x-generic icon, preview is located at [8], and on the go-* icons, preview is located at [9], and media-* icons, no preview is available yet. And, finally, what is supposed to happen in the near future? Well, I hope to make some progress with the ToDo page [6]. Also it would be great if we could attract more contributors, as for me and Luya it is quite a lot of work and as a result the progress is rather slow. Once the go-* and media-* icons are finished and pushed to git, we'll release new version (thanks to a lot of changes) and it will be the first release available for download from the new location [3]. The Echo-related wiki pages on fedoraproject.org also need some updates, because there is a lot of obsolete information and is sometimes a bit misleading as to how the Echo progress is going on. I hope this report helps clearing any questions you might have regarding the Echo development and I hope to hear from you. As you might noticed in this report, if you are willing to help but don't have the needed graphical skills, you can still help with the infrastructure (e.g. working on the wiki pages). Thanks for your time, Martin References: [1] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki [2] http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=echo-icon-theme;a=summary [3] https://fedorahosted.org/releases/e/c/echo-icon-theme/ [4] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/IconThemeStatus [5] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/ToDo/InProgress [6] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/ToDo [7] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines [8] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/MimeTypes/ [9] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/Actions/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Martin for the detalied report, indeed the Echo progress looks impressive. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From duffy at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 15 14:32:10 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:32:10 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: Please test: Major version update of F8 inkscape] In-Reply-To: <1203065336.24932.31.camel@pc-notebook> References: <47B49921.8030703@fedoraproject.org> <47B4B457.9090801@fedoraproject.org> <47B4B75B.7080803@fedoraproject.org> <47B4B7A4.8070903@fedoraproject.org> <47B54A90.10407@nicubunu.ro> <1203065336.24932.31.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <47B5A26A.6000705@fedoraproject.org> Martin Sourada wrote: > Strange enough, your inkscape seems to behave a lot better than mine, > for one the font family drop down list appears to me only at second try > (and this used to happen with 0.45 as well) and for second I cannot > change the font (this happens with 0.46). Oh, and I have now installed > the rpm and it behaves precisely same as the self-compiled version. Here's my bug report, I attached a screencast to it so you can see what it looks like: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=432892 ~m From bthomas21 at zoominternet.net Fri Feb 15 17:46:34 2008 From: bthomas21 at zoominternet.net (Brandon Thomas) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:46:34 -0500 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <1203097594.3234.36.camel@bts-laptop> Does anyone have any fedora t-shirts on cafepress? BT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You might want to catch up with people in the Fedora Store SIG. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Store -jef From duffy at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 15 18:20:35 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:20:35 -0500 Subject: Art Studio Status In-Reply-To: <47B2977B.80900@nicubunu.ro> References: <47B25E27.5080108@fedoraproject.org> <47B2977B.80900@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47B5D7F3.7080906@fedoraproject.org> Nicu Buculei wrote: > It seems like the two people involved directly are busy for the moment > and a person driving the initiative would be really useful. Otherwise I > suspect we will postpone it for a future release. Yep, this is a pretty accurate assessment. :) ~m From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Feb 15 21:26:59 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:26:59 +0100 Subject: [Echo] fixing/completing go-* and media-* icons In-Reply-To: <1202936759.6856.38.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1202936759.6856.38.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1203110819.24932.83.camel@pc-notebook> I've created media-* icons in sizes ranging from 16x16 to 32x32 and I intend to create the 48x48 ones tomorrow. I uploaded them to [1]. Unless someone objects I'll probably divide and upload them to git in Monday. Thanks for comments, Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/Actions/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Comments welcome, Martin References: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Sat Feb 16 03:44:11 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:14:11 +0530 Subject: Request a Fedora logo/design to put on badges/buttons Message-ID: <47B65C0B.9020702@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 http://www.flickr.com/photos/runa-sankarshan/2086252693/ has an example of a badge/button (that's the swag that has a note). Turns out that they were pretty popular. I'd like to do a small run of Fedora ones as well and request an appropriate design. Can anyone help ? - -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHtlwLXQZpNTcrCzMRAvYbAJ9Zduo54jfPePPbf9Rnn9M3gy944gCgroeO hR1RW5jIFtTx2+7sDNNBEpM= =n/dR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Sun Feb 17 11:38:20 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:08:20 +0530 Subject: Fedora Xfce Spin - Look and feel, Nodoka issues Message-ID: <47B81CAC.4000301@fedoraproject.org> Hi Some ongoing discussions on #subject at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433152 If folks have any opinions, feel free to share them as comments in the bugzilla report. Rahul From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Sun Feb 17 17:05:36 2008 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:05:36 +0100 Subject: Muffin logo : can I have some help ? Message-ID: <20080217180536.19fcd430@annifrid.mrtomlinux> Hello I'm trying to make a logo for muffin, but I find it very hard, and I have little time today to do it. Could someone help me out ? What is muffin ? Muffin is the name we chose for a french fedora community magazine (online and free and free). Thanks, Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: corel.zip Type: application/zip Size: 4497 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: muffin.svg Type: image/svg+xml Size: 16192 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I personally like my version better since its brighter and more fedora (you know, I have deeply associated fedora with blue colour), while the original seems a little more professional... I've updated the wiki [1] accordingly. Comments welcome, Martin References: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Martin for the detalied report, indeed the Echo progress looks impressive. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gort.klaatu at gmail.com Mon Feb 18 01:29:55 2008 From: gort.klaatu at gmail.com (Klaatu and Gort) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:29:55 -0800 Subject: Muffin logo : can I have some help ? In-Reply-To: <20080217180536.19fcd430@annifrid.mrtomlinux> References: <20080217180536.19fcd430@annifrid.mrtomlinux> Message-ID: Are you looking for a logo or a splash screen or both? 2008/2/17 Thomas Canniot : > Hello > > I'm trying to make a logo for muffin, but I find it very hard, and I > have little time today to do it. > > Could someone help me out ? > > What is muffin ? Muffin is the name we chose for a french fedora > community magazine (online and free and free). > > Thanks, > > Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- --- use linux. support free software. subscribe to http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Mon Feb 18 06:41:57 2008 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:41:57 +0100 Subject: Muffin logo : can I have some help ? 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Name: sig.asc URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Feb 18 07:23:06 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:23:06 +0200 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> Martin Sourada wrote: > I've played a bit with the Sulphuric waves wallpapers and put some > (blue) colour in it. I don't know why, but whenever I play with blue > colours for wallpapers I always end up with more or less the same hue... > I created two versions - one simple (only with modified colours) and one > a little more complex (I added some halo). I personally like my version > better since its brighter and more fedora (you know, I have deeply > associated fedora with blue colour), while the original seems a little > more professional... I've updated the wiki [1] accordingly. I am also *for* a blue alternative (at least as a try) but I find your version a bit too bright. Maybe I'll try myself a darker version. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Feb 18 07:44:09 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:44:09 +0200 Subject: Fedora Xfce Spin - Look and feel, Nodoka issues In-Reply-To: <47B81CAC.4000301@fedoraproject.org> References: <47B81CAC.4000301@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47B93749.6010609@nicubunu.ro> Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Some ongoing discussions on #subject at > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433152 > > If folks have any opinions, feel free to share them as comments in the > bugzilla report. I think I will abstain posting an useless "me too" comment to the bug, but I also think: if it is Fedora then it should look and feel like Fedora (so with Nodoka). Ups! I did wrong and posted an useless "me too" here instead :p -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Feb 18 08:02:44 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:02:44 +0200 Subject: Request a Fedora logo/design to put on badges/buttons In-Reply-To: <47B65C0B.9020702@gmail.com> References: <47B65C0B.9020702@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47B93BA4.6050508@nicubunu.ro> Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/runa-sankarshan/2086252693/ has an example > of a badge/button (that's the swag that has a note). Turns out that they > were pretty popular. I'd like to do a small run of Fedora ones as well > and request an appropriate design. I can see this implemented in 4 ways (different background color options): http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/stickers/badge.png http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/stickers/badge.svg Do you want the word "fedora" there too? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From pingoufc4 at yahoo.fr Mon Feb 18 08:35:16 2008 From: pingoufc4 at yahoo.fr (pingou) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:35:16 +0100 Subject: Muffin logo : can I have some help ? In-Reply-To: References: <20080217180536.19fcd430@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <20080218074157.64c92a71@annifrid.mrtomlinux> Message-ID: <47B94344.5010603@yahoo.fr> Klaatu and Gort wrote: > This is how far i got so far: > http://www.thebadapples.info/slackware/muffin_01.png > > is this on the right track? > I like it, but maybe with some more color ?? Thanks it is a nice work :) Pierre From jeff at ocjtech.us Mon Feb 18 13:47:30 2008 From: jeff at ocjtech.us (Jeffrey Ollie) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:47:30 -0600 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <935ead450802180547s539432c8la783bf79576c735c@mail.gmail.com> On 2/18/08, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > I am also *for* a blue alternative (at least as a try) but I find your > version a bit too bright. Maybe I'll try myself a darker version. I'm against a blue theme - we've had blue themes for many many releases and I'm ready for something different. That's part of why I voted for sulphur - I hoped that it would inspire you all to come up with something different. That's why I was so pleased to see M?ir?n's grey/yellow sulphur mockups. Jeff From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Mon Feb 18 13:54:49 2008 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:24:49 +0530 Subject: Request a Fedora logo/design to put on badges/buttons In-Reply-To: <47B93BA4.6050508@nicubunu.ro> References: <47B65C0B.9020702@gmail.com> <47B93BA4.6050508@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47B98E29.8040805@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Nicu Buculei wrote: | I can see this implemented in 4 ways (different background color options): | http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/stickers/badge.png | http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/stickers/badge.svg First up - thanks. These are cool and especially the one at the bottom right would make it a lovely thing to print | Do you want the word "fedora" there too? I was thinking along the lines of "Infinity, Freedom, Voice" and "fedoraproject.org" on the top and bottom respectively ringing the logo - - would that look bad ? - -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHuY4pXQZpNTcrCzMRAiU8AJwNTnzz0WltaL6EADq+oyexH5GJygCdErgZ dHdNXwwSjSukQ3dlNTh1a0k= =f0Jl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Feb 18 16:20:10 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:20:10 +0200 Subject: Request a Fedora logo/design to put on badges/buttons In-Reply-To: <47B98E29.8040805@gmail.com> References: <47B65C0B.9020702@gmail.com> <47B93BA4.6050508@nicubunu.ro> <47B98E29.8040805@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47B9B03A.40003@nicubunu.ro> Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: > | http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/stickers/badge.png > | http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/stickers/badge.svg > > First up - thanks. These are cool and especially the one at the bottom > right would make it a lovely thing to print > > | Do you want the word "fedora" there too? > > I was thinking along the lines of "Infinity, Freedom, Voice" and > "fedoraproject.org" on the top and bottom respectively ringing the logo > - - would that look bad ? It may look too crowded, it may look good, we have to try: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/stickers/badge1.png http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/stickers/badge1.svg -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Tue Feb 19 07:23:22 2008 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:23:22 +0100 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <935ead450802180547s539432c8la783bf79576c735c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <935ead450802180547s539432c8la783bf79576c735c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080219082322.74885647@annifrid.mrtomlinux> Le Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:47:30 -0600, "Jeffrey Ollie" a ?crit : > On 2/18/08, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > > > I am also *for* a blue alternative (at least as a try) but I find > > your version a bit too bright. Maybe I'll try myself a darker > > version. > > I'm against a blue theme - we've had blue themes for many many > releases and I'm ready for something different. That's part of why I > voted for sulphur - I hoped that it would inspire you all to come up > with something different. That's why I was so pleased to see M?ir?n's > grey/yellow sulphur mockups. > > Jeff I agree with you. Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jakub.rusinek at gmail.com Tue Feb 19 11:59:41 2008 From: jakub.rusinek at gmail.com (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 12:59:41 +0100 Subject: Subtle style Message-ID: <47BAC4AD.3060003@gmail.com> Hi, I want to show you simple theme, made for openSUSE, which I think is great, because of its simplicity. Here you go: http://en.opensuse.org/Artwork:Pixel_Pool/11.0/GreyGreen From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Feb 19 13:57:07 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:57:07 +0200 Subject: Subtle style In-Reply-To: <47BAC4AD.3060003@gmail.com> References: <47BAC4AD.3060003@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47BAE033.6010201@nicubunu.ro> Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Hi, Hi, > I want to show you simple theme, made for openSUSE, which I think is > great, because of its simplicity. > > Here you go: http://en.opensuse.org/Artwork:Pixel_Pool/11.0/GreyGreen Yeah, it is quite nice (a little too bright for me, but nice). From the 3 images shown (is there something broken? I can see only 3 images there, a boot screen and 2 login screens) I absolutely hate only one: the face browser login. You can see the SUSE identity very prominent, both in the green and the spiral background (it is a lizard tail). But I wouldn't say it is simpler, nicer or better than Infinity, it is at about the same level (except for the face browser login, which is poor). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From jakub.rusinek at gmail.com Tue Feb 19 14:09:41 2008 From: jakub.rusinek at gmail.com (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:09:41 +0100 Subject: Subtle style In-Reply-To: <47BAE033.6010201@nicubunu.ro> References: <47BAC4AD.3060003@gmail.com> <47BAE033.6010201@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47BAE325.2090304@gmail.com> >> I want to show you simple theme, made for openSUSE, which I think is >> great, because of its simplicity. >> >> Here you go: http://en.opensuse.org/Artwork:Pixel_Pool/11.0/GreyGreen > > Yeah, it is quite nice (a little too bright for me, but nice). Doesn't matter. > I absolutely hate only one: > the face browser login. Yeah, their face browser mockup login is ugly ^^ . (Because it was not drawn by jimmac.) > You can see the SUSE identity very prominent, both in the green and the > spiral background (it is a lizard tail). Yes, that's great part of their artwork. I like it very much. > But I wouldn't say it is simpler, nicer or better than Infinity, it is > at about the same level (except for the face browser login, which is poor). I don't wanted to show that's better. It's just inspiration for you to create (another) great theme for upcoming release. SUSE is easily recognizeable because of this gecko. We do not have such thing :( . From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Feb 20 08:05:54 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:05:54 +0200 Subject: Subtle style In-Reply-To: <47BAE325.2090304@gmail.com> References: <47BAC4AD.3060003@gmail.com> <47BAE033.6010201@nicubunu.ro> <47BAE325.2090304@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47BBDF62.7050309@nicubunu.ro> Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: >> I absolutely hate only one: >> the face browser login. > > Yeah, their face browser mockup login is ugly ^^ . But that is the least relevant, the new gdm (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NewGdm) change the way that screen is themed, only the background is customizable. > I don't wanted to show that's better. It's just inspiration for you to > create (another) great theme for upcoming release. We are now in Round 3, where we are supposed to finish the proposals from Round 2, new ideas are to be submitted in Round 1 > SUSE is easily recognizeable because of this gecko. We do not have such > thing :( . We do not have such a thing for one of the following reasons: - we, as a team, were not able to come with something good enough: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot - the larger community didn't identify this as an useful feature - the timing for that initiative was not good -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Wed Feb 20 10:06:46 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:06:46 +0100 Subject: eeedora artwork Message-ID: <47BBFBB6.7050802@gmail.com> Hi, I got hold of a fabulous device called Asus eeePC. By default it runs Xandros but there is a fedora based distro called eeedora. I'm about to install it and play with it. Can you please look at it and while making wallpapers for Fedora 9 also make versions for eeedora. It has resolution of 800x480. Ps. Mairin I see that you travel a lot, while it wont be too usefull for doing artwork because of it's small screen it is a great device for email and other forms of communication. I love my eee! Cheers, Valent. From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Feb 20 11:40:35 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:40:35 +0200 Subject: eeedora artwork In-Reply-To: <47BBFBB6.7050802@gmail.com> References: <47BBFBB6.7050802@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47BC11B3.4070003@nicubunu.ro> Valent Turkovic wrote: > I got hold of a fabulous device called Asus eeePC. By default it runs > Xandros but there is a fedora based distro called eeedora. > I'm about to install it and play with it. > > Can you please look at it and while making wallpapers for Fedora 9 also > make versions for eeedora. It has resolution of 800x480. I had a quick look at our current wallpapers, they are 1920x1200, which will rescale proportionally to 800x500, stretching them to 800x480 is not that bad as is neither hard to crop 20 pixels. I have a couple of questions for you: - Eeedora has the software needed for animated backgrounds? does his maintainer want to use animated backgrounds? So, is needed only a static PNG or the entire xml with various PNGs (supposing we wwill have an animated background in F9); - does this oddly sized wallpaper need to be available in Fedora proper or only in Eeedora? (it may be useful everywhere, as this ear are expected such devices with the same screen size from a lot of manufacturers) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From ivazqueznet at gmail.com Wed Feb 20 12:30:21 2008 From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:30:21 -0500 Subject: eeedora artwork In-Reply-To: <47BC11B3.4070003@nicubunu.ro> References: <47BBFBB6.7050802@gmail.com> <47BC11B3.4070003@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1203510621.29154.32.camel@ignacio.lan> On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 13:40 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > - does this oddly sized wallpaper need to be available in Fedora proper > or only in Eeedora? (it may be useful everywhere, as this ear are > expected such devices with the same screen size from a lot of manufacturers) I'd say that it can't hurt to have this resolution (or perhaps an integral scale of it) included in Fedora proper. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jakub.rusinek at gmail.com Wed Feb 20 09:11:16 2008 From: jakub.rusinek at gmail.com (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:11:16 +0100 Subject: Subtle style In-Reply-To: <47BBDF62.7050309@nicubunu.ro> References: <47BAC4AD.3060003@gmail.com> <47BAE033.6010201@nicubunu.ro> <47BAE325.2090304@gmail.com> <47BBDF62.7050309@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47BBEEB4.8040805@gmail.com> Nicu Buculei pisze: > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: >>> I absolutely hate only one: >>> the face browser login. >> >> Yeah, their face browser mockup login is ugly ^^ . > > But that is the least relevant, the new gdm > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NewGdm) change the way that > screen is themed, only the background is customizable. Only background? Possible to change in some GDM-configuration program? >> I don't wanted to show that's better. It's just inspiration for you to >> create (another) great theme for upcoming release. > > We are now in Round 3, where we are supposed to finish the proposals > from Round 2, new ideas are to be submitted in Round 1 Proposals from round 2 aren't satisfying in my opinion. In previous editions, the mockups were better. >> SUSE is easily recognizeable because of this gecko. We do not have >> such thing :( . > > We do not have such a thing for one of the following reasons: > - we, as a team, were not able to come with something good enough: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Mascot > - the larger community didn't identify this as an useful feature > - the timing for that initiative was not good Yes, we haven't something good... We have only logo, but logo is standard. I think about the infinity sign. It can be our sign... But it's not unique... From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Feb 20 13:35:06 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:35:06 +0200 Subject: Subtle style In-Reply-To: <47BBEEB4.8040805@gmail.com> References: <47BAC4AD.3060003@gmail.com> <47BAE033.6010201@nicubunu.ro> <47BAE325.2090304@gmail.com> <47BBDF62.7050309@nicubunu.ro> <47BBEEB4.8040805@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47BC2C8A.2040208@nicubunu.ro> Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Nicu Buculei pisze: >> But that is the least relevant, the new gdm >> (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NewGdm) change the way that >> screen is themed, only the background is customizable. > > Only background? Possible to change in some GDM-configuration program? Start from this reference: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-December/msg00164.html learn more and then please report back to help us create a good looking login screen. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From mclasen at redhat.com Wed Feb 20 13:50:10 2008 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:50:10 -0500 Subject: Subtle style In-Reply-To: <47BC2C8A.2040208@nicubunu.ro> References: <47BAC4AD.3060003@gmail.com> <47BAE033.6010201@nicubunu.ro> <47BAE325.2090304@gmail.com> <47BBDF62.7050309@nicubunu.ro> <47BBEEB4.8040805@gmail.com> <47BC2C8A.2040208@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1203515410.4886.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 15:35 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > > Nicu Buculei pisze: > >> But that is the least relevant, the new gdm > >> (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NewGdm) change the way that > >> screen is themed, only the background is customizable. > > > > Only background? Possible to change in some GDM-configuration program? > > Start from this reference: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-December/msg00164.html > learn more and then please report back to help us create a good looking > login screen. > And do not hestitate to approach Ray or Jon with questions. The exact details of how theming will work in the new gdm are not finalized yet, and you can still influence it. Some early experimentation with what we currently have would be very valuable. Matthias From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 20 14:59:45 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:59:45 -0500 Subject: Subtle style In-Reply-To: <47BBEEB4.8040805@gmail.com> References: <47BAC4AD.3060003@gmail.com> <47BAE033.6010201@nicubunu.ro> <47BAE325.2090304@gmail.com> <47BBDF62.7050309@nicubunu.ro> <47BBEEB4.8040805@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47BC4061.8010908@fedoraproject.org> Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Nicu Buculei pisze: >> Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: >>>> I absolutely hate only one: >>>> the face browser login. >>> >>> Yeah, their face browser mockup login is ugly ^^ . >> >> But that is the least relevant, the new gdm >> (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NewGdm) change the way that >> screen is themed, only the background is customizable. > > Only background? Possible to change in some GDM-configuration program? > >>> I don't wanted to show that's better. It's just inspiration for you to >>> create (another) great theme for upcoming release. >> >> We are now in Round 3, where we are supposed to finish the proposals >> from Round 2, new ideas are to be submitted in Round 1 > > Proposals from round 2 aren't satisfying in my opinion. In previous > editions, the mockups were better. > Jakub, we aren't going to throw the entire theming process and submission out the window because you don't approve of them. Sorry. ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Feb 21 08:07:09 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:07:09 +0200 Subject: Subtle style In-Reply-To: <47BC2C8A.2040208@nicubunu.ro> References: <47BAC4AD.3060003@gmail.com> <47BAE033.6010201@nicubunu.ro> <47BAE325.2090304@gmail.com> <47BBDF62.7050309@nicubunu.ro> <47BBEEB4.8040805@gmail.com> <47BC2C8A.2040208@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47BD312D.3080707@nicubunu.ro> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: >> Only background? Possible to change in some GDM-configuration program? > > Start from this reference: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2007-December/msg00164.html > learn more and then please report back to help us create a good looking > login screen. I followed the issue to the desktop list and got a very informative answer from William Jon McCann (quoted here for those not subscribed to the desktop list; read the full message in the archive: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2008-February/msg00042.html) -------------------------------------------------------- We run a gnome-settings-daemon in the greeter so that we pick up the system gconf defaults for background, icon theme, metacity theme, gtk theme, etc. So, whatever work you do to get the desktop themes tweaked will be inherited by the GDM greeter. One advantage of this is that the transition from greeter to a default session is pretty smooth. The background doesn't change, the icons/colors/etc don't change, and the gnome-panel slides into view. If for some reason we want to customize the greeter we can still do that. One way is to do something similar to what we did for the gnome-screensaver dialog. We can modify the glade file and provide a gtkrc. One extra bit of theming/branding that I added upstream (not in rawhide yet) is the ability to specify a logo icon name to use in place of the computer monitor image on the greeter login dialog. We could add the the Fedora logo there for example. -------------------------------------------------------- -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com Thu Feb 21 11:46:38 2008 From: jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:46:38 +0000 Subject: Promo Banners Message-ID: <3263b11b0802210346q665ef9e4k7701097152869853@mail.gmail.com> Hey all, I just saw Mo's post and then followed the link to the new promo banners page on the wiki and I have to say it's awesome! My apologies for the now rather dubious looking fwn banner that I'd put together - thinking it could do with a rework :S Anyway, just wanted to say, as always, your work is rocking! Will some of these banners be getting put into the rotation on fp.o? I hope so, especially things like Fedora Hosted! Best wishes, Jon From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 21 14:46:27 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:46:27 -0500 Subject: Promo Banners In-Reply-To: <3263b11b0802210346q665ef9e4k7701097152869853@mail.gmail.com> References: <3263b11b0802210346q665ef9e4k7701097152869853@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47BD8EC3.4050502@fedoraproject.org> Jonathan Roberts wrote: > Hey all, > > I just saw Mo's post and then followed the link to the new promo > banners page on the wiki and I have to say it's awesome! My apologies > for the now rather dubious looking fwn banner that I'd put together - > thinking it could do with a rework :S > > Anyway, just wanted to say, as always, your work is rocking! Will some > of these banners be getting put into the rotation on fp.o? I hope so, > especially things like Fedora Hosted! Yep :) The Fedora Hosted official announcement date I'm not sure is set but when it gets announced we should put the hosted banner into rotation. The interview one is there for any interviews as they come out so they can be put into rotation as well. :) ~m From gort.klaatu at gmail.com Fri Feb 22 06:25:16 2008 From: gort.klaatu at gmail.com (Klaatu and Gort) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:25:16 -0800 Subject: Muffin logo : can I have some help ? In-Reply-To: <47B94344.5010603@yahoo.fr> References: <20080217180536.19fcd430@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <20080218074157.64c92a71@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47B94344.5010603@yahoo.fr> Message-ID: maybe this is too much, but it's another idea... http://thebadapples.info/slackware/muffin_clouds.png On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 12:35 AM, pingou wrote: > Klaatu and Gort wrote: > > This is how far i got so far: > > http://www.thebadapples.info/slackware/muffin_01.png > > > > is this on the right track? > > > I like it, but maybe with some more color ?? > > Thanks it is a nice work :) > > Pierre > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- --- use linux. support free software. subscribe to http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml From tshimulu at gmail.com Fri Feb 22 06:48:45 2008 From: tshimulu at gmail.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:48:45 -0800 Subject: [F9 Theme] Shoowa update Message-ID: The theme is now updated for the round 3 reflecting feedback from Nicu blog. The illustration was done on Portable Inkscape having just completed class. I will bring some refinement once I will get home. Reference: -------------- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Shoowa -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Artwork -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tshimulu at gmail.com Fri Feb 22 06:51:57 2008 From: tshimulu at gmail.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:51:57 -0800 Subject: [F9 Theme] Shoowa update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Title in bracket should be round 3. Sorry for the wrong title. -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Project Contributor Fedora Artwork -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I will bring some > refinement once I will get home. > > Reference: > -------------- > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Shoowa > > -- > Luya Tshimbalanga > http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga > Fedora Artwork > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- I'm still learning English... Ji?? Jakub Ma?ek - Mr Jiri Jakub Masek Moravia, Czech Republic, European Union -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tatadbb at gmail.com Fri Feb 22 11:40:54 2008 From: tatadbb at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:10:54 +1930 Subject: Muffin logo : can I have some help ? In-Reply-To: References: <20080217180536.19fcd430@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <20080218074157.64c92a71@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47B94344.5010603@yahoo.fr> Message-ID: <27a6293b0802220340y4542222eyd4a30d5f6b278ef@mail.gmail.com> I like this background... but in instead I would use some like Purisa style... maybe more coursive and delicate. 2008/2/23, Klaatu and Gort : > > maybe this is too much, but it's another idea... > http://thebadapples.info/slackware/muffin_clouds.png > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 12:35 AM, pingou wrote: > > Klaatu and Gort wrote: > > > This is how far i got so far: > > > http://www.thebadapples.info/slackware/muffin_01.png > > > > > > is this on the right track? > > > > > I like it, but maybe with some more color ?? > > > > Thanks it is a nice work :) > > > > Pierre > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > > -- > --- > use linux. support free software. > subscribe to http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... 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Jeff From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Fri Feb 22 14:04:39 2008 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:04:39 +0100 Subject: Muffin logo : can I have some help ? In-Reply-To: References: <20080217180536.19fcd430@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <20080218074157.64c92a71@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47B94344.5010603@yahoo.fr> Message-ID: <20080222150439.6ee229cb@annifrid.mrtomlinux> Le Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:25:16 -0800, "Klaatu and Gort" a ?crit : > maybe this is too much, but it's another idea... > http://thebadapples.info/slackware/muffin_clouds.png > This is impressive. :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org Fri Feb 22 14:05:43 2008 From: thomas.canniot at mrtomlinux.org (Thomas Canniot) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:05:43 +0100 Subject: Muffin logo : can I have some help ? In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0802220340y4542222eyd4a30d5f6b278ef@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080217180536.19fcd430@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <20080218074157.64c92a71@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47B94344.5010603@yahoo.fr> <27a6293b0802220340y4542222eyd4a30d5f6b278ef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080222150543.1dc3b8be@annifrid.mrtomlinux> Le Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:10:54 +1930, "Mar?a Leandro" a ?crit : > I like this background... but in instead I would use some like Purisa > style... maybe more coursive and delicate. > What do you mean by purisa ? Thomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I will bring some > > refinement once I will get home. > > Like the yellow/grey colors, don't care for the darker grey in the > lower left, preferred the softer more regular diamond shapes under > "transitional sample" especially the first one. > > Jeff > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tatadbb at gmail.com Fri Feb 22 14:27:01 2008 From: tatadbb at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:57:01 +1930 Subject: Muffin logo : can I have some help ? In-Reply-To: <20080222150543.1dc3b8be@annifrid.mrtomlinux> References: <20080217180536.19fcd430@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <20080218074157.64c92a71@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47B94344.5010603@yahoo.fr> <27a6293b0802220340y4542222eyd4a30d5f6b278ef@mail.gmail.com> <20080222150543.1dc3b8be@annifrid.mrtomlinux> Message-ID: <27a6293b0802220627r8ec78d9y8484a94f997348ed@mail.gmail.com> like this one... or something http://www.miriamruiz.es/debfonts/1754ebd3bc2e1eaf5b833389bd7b72de.png 2008/2/23, Thomas Canniot : > > Le Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:10:54 +1930, > "Mar?a Leandro" a ?crit : > > > > I like this background... but in instead I would use some like Purisa > > style... maybe more coursive and delicate. > > > > > > What do you mean by purisa ? > > > Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... 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Can you play around with bringing in fedora blue tones into the greys? -jef From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Sat Feb 23 09:40:52 2008 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:40:52 -0800 Subject: [Round 3] Shoowa theme update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47BFEA24.80703@thefinalzone.com> Reference: -------------- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Shoowa New update of theme with removal of lower dark colours. New diamonds shape are added and fading effects is on the left part. Version 3.1c uses gradient from the background in opposite direction. The sulfuric diamond could be used for counting the number of week. Comment is welcome. Luya From martin.sourada at gmail.com Sat Feb 23 10:06:41 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:06:41 +0100 Subject: [Round 3] Shoowa theme update In-Reply-To: <47BFEA24.80703@thefinalzone.com> References: <47BFEA24.80703@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <1203761201.2786.1.camel@pc-notebook> On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 01:40 -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Reference: > -------------- > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Shoowa > > > New update of theme with removal of lower dark colours. New diamonds > shape are added and fading effects is on the left part. Version 3.1c > uses gradient from the background in opposite direction. The sulfuric > diamond could be used for counting the number of week. > Comment is welcome. > > Luya > For me the diamonds looks completely out of place... It's too distracting. As for which of those wallpapers I like best, it's 3.1 closely followed by 3.1c. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From martin.sourada at gmail.com Sat Feb 23 11:49:02 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:49:02 +0100 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 09:23 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > I am also *for* a blue alternative (at least as a try) but I find your > version a bit too bright. Maybe I'll try myself a darker version. > I noticed you attached the darker version to the Waves page [1]. I decided to give it another try and created a version that is neither that light like the first tries nor that dark like your try. I attached it to the page [1]. As for the issue of being it blue, well, I don't like very much the idea of having different colour wallpaper than blue, not only because I like blue (the Mo's grey/yellow sulphuric designs are great even though they are NOT blue), but mostly because I, and many other people, have Fedora already associated with blue. Yeah, we can experiment with other colours as well, but as far as we don't want to confuse people we need blue to be the main colour. Now when you look at fedora wallpapers, you most likely guess it's fedora, if we will have grey wallpaper nobody would guess it's fedora... But anyway, if more people prefer grey, I am not against it ;-) So the main question is: do we want the default colour to be part of fedora "image" or not? If the former, than we have to have blue wallpapers, if the latter, we can have in each release different coloured one... Thanks, Martin References: [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From camilo at mesias.co.uk Sat Feb 23 12:44:32 2008 From: camilo at mesias.co.uk (Camilo Mesias) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:44:32 +0000 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: I think the wallpapers are great... is the blueness of the palette a given though? I was thinking back to my youth when some sulphur was burned in a science experiment. There was an amazing range of powdery yellow colours, ranging through to a glossy dark brown for the molten sulphur. Then the flame was a contrasting blue colour that I remember very vividly. I'm almost tempted to find some sulphur and photograph it burning! I can imagine a pair of images with those colours, with blue being the dominant colour in one, and yellow in the other. -Cam From himam at fedoraproject.org Sat Feb 23 13:27:37 2008 From: himam at fedoraproject.org (Hisham Abdel-Magid) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:27:37 +0300 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <59e007ed0802230527p2b5894ew53a5c79e57e724cb@mail.gmail.com> I suggest to add sort of "Infiniy" rays similar to the ones of F8 raising from the Sulphar glow upwards .. with the gradient of a bluish flame.. H.I. On 2/23/08, Camilo Mesias wrote: > > I think the wallpapers are great... is the blueness of the palette a > given though? I was thinking back to my youth when some sulphur was > burned in a science experiment. > > There was an amazing range of powdery yellow colours, ranging through > to a glossy dark brown for the molten sulphur. Then the flame was a > contrasting blue colour that I remember very vividly. I'm almost > tempted to find some sulphur and photograph it burning! > > I can imagine a pair of images with those colours, with blue being the > dominant colour in one, and yellow in the other. > > -Cam > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Eng. Hisham Isam M. Abdel-Magid Fedora Ambassador in Sudan, Dept. of Shelter & Physical Development (DSPD) Institute for Technological Research (ITR) National Center for Research (NCR) Ministry of Science and Technology (MOST) P.O.Box 2404 Khartoum Sudan Mobile: +249 122 007 122 E.mail: himam at fedoraproject.org wiki: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HishamAbdelMagid -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.sourada at gmail.com Sat Feb 23 16:48:21 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:48:21 +0100 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1203785301.2786.15.camel@pc-notebook> On Sat, 2008-02-23 at 12:44 +0000, Camilo Mesias wrote: > I think the wallpapers are great... is the blueness of the palette a > given though? I was thinking back to my youth when some sulphur was > burned in a science experiment. > Nope, I used the blue I felt like being the best... > There was an amazing range of powdery yellow colours, ranging through > to a glossy dark brown for the molten sulphur. Then the flame was a > contrasting blue colour that I remember very vividly. I'm almost > tempted to find some sulphur and photograph it burning! > Like this? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Burning-sulfur.png > I can imagine a pair of images with those colours, with blue being the > dominant colour in one, and yellow in the other. > > -Cam > Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sadly, it seems using a strong blue influence just doesn't work with the yellow sulfur bits. The grey tones as a background work much better if you are going to but yellow highlights. It would be interesting to see what 3.1c looks like if you go back to a set of grey,white,black tones instead of blue,white tones in the background. Maybe there's still a way to use a hint of blue. -jef From jspaleta at gmail.com Sat Feb 23 23:37:40 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:37:40 -0900 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <1203785301.2786.15.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <1203785301.2786.15.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <604aa7910802231537l10d0d028jc2ef9fbfc2331d7@mail.gmail.com> 2008/2/23 Martin Sourada : > Like this? > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Burning-sulfur.png Ohhhhhh burning sulfur....there's a wealth of possibility there. -jef From camilo at mesias.co.uk Sun Feb 24 00:52:07 2008 From: camilo at mesias.co.uk (Camilo Mesias) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:52:07 +0000 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <604aa7910802231537l10d0d028jc2ef9fbfc2331d7@mail.gmail.com> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <1203785301.2786.15.camel@pc-notebook> <604aa7910802231537l10d0d028jc2ef9fbfc2331d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: That's a really good image, you can see the brownness of the melted stuff and the blueness of the flame. It's really cool stuff to play with - if you drop the melted sulfur into cold water it turns into a moldable goo, which slowly turns back into the yellow form. If you prod the yellow stuff with a hot soldering iron it will melt then spontaneously ignite. When it burns the fumes mix with water in the air to make acid... I'm sure you could mold a Fedora logo out of it, then set it alight... or etch stuff with the fumes... or something! -Cam From gort.klaatu at gmail.com Sun Feb 24 03:12:00 2008 From: gort.klaatu at gmail.com (Klaatu and Gort) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:12:00 -0800 Subject: Muffin logo : can I have some help ? In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0802220627r8ec78d9y8484a94f997348ed@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080217180536.19fcd430@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <20080218074157.64c92a71@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47B94344.5010603@yahoo.fr> <27a6293b0802220340y4542222eyd4a30d5f6b278ef@mail.gmail.com> <20080222150543.1dc3b8be@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <27a6293b0802220627r8ec78d9y8484a94f997348ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: http://thebadapples.info/linuxreality/muffin_clouds_summertime.png source: http://thebadapples.info/linuxreality/muffin_clouds_summertime.tar 2008/2/22 Mar?a Leandro : > like this one... or something > > http://www.miriamruiz.es/debfonts/1754ebd3bc2e1eaf5b833389bd7b72de.png > > > > 2008/2/23, Thomas Canniot : > > > > > > > > Le Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:10:54 +1930, > > "Mar?a Leandro" a ?crit : > > > > > > > I like this background... but in instead I would use some like Purisa > > > style... maybe more coursive and delicate. > > > > > > > > > > > What do you mean by purisa ? > > > > > > Thomas > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > > > > > > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.iseit.net > http://www.latinux.org > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- --- use linux. support free software. subscribe to http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml From tatadbb at gmail.com Sun Feb 24 14:16:33 2008 From: tatadbb at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:46:33 +1930 Subject: Muffin logo : can I have some help ? In-Reply-To: References: <20080217180536.19fcd430@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <20080218074157.64c92a71@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47B94344.5010603@yahoo.fr> <27a6293b0802220340y4542222eyd4a30d5f6b278ef@mail.gmail.com> <20080222150543.1dc3b8be@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <27a6293b0802220627r8ec78d9y8484a94f997348ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <27a6293b0802240616y5cbfc46bi41d525e035a065e0@mail.gmail.com> I was thinking something more like this: http://tatica.org/tux/muffin_clouds_summertime-test2.png 2008/2/24, Klaatu and Gort : > > http://thebadapples.info/linuxreality/muffin_clouds_summertime.png > > source: > http://thebadapples.info/linuxreality/muffin_clouds_summertime.tar > > > > > 2008/2/22 Mar?a Leandro : > > > like this one... or something > > > > http://www.miriamruiz.es/debfonts/1754ebd3bc2e1eaf5b833389bd7b72de.png > > > > > > > > 2008/2/23, Thomas Canniot : > > > > > > > > > > > > Le Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:10:54 +1930, > > > "Mar?a Leandro" a ?crit : > > > > > > > > > > I like this background... but in instead I would use some like > Purisa > > > > style... maybe more coursive and delicate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you mean by purisa ? > > > > > > > > > Thomas > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > tatica > > Maria Gracia Leandro > > http://www.tatica.org > > http://www.iseit.net > > http://www.latinux.org > > http://www.fedora-ve.org > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > > LinuxUser= 440285 > > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > > > -- > > --- > use linux. support free software. > subscribe to http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0802240616y5cbfc46bi41d525e035a065e0@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080217180536.19fcd430@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <20080218074157.64c92a71@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <47B94344.5010603@yahoo.fr> <27a6293b0802220340y4542222eyd4a30d5f6b278ef@mail.gmail.com> <20080222150543.1dc3b8be@annifrid.mrtomlinux> <27a6293b0802220627r8ec78d9y8484a94f997348ed@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0802240616y5cbfc46bi41d525e035a065e0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ok I'll look around for some free fonts that are more elegant and give it another go. 2008/2/24 Mar?a Leandro : > I was thinking something more like this: > > > http://tatica.org/tux/muffin_clouds_summertime-test2.png > > > 2008/2/24, Klaatu and Gort : > > > http://thebadapples.info/linuxreality/muffin_clouds_summertime.png > > > > source: > > http://thebadapples.info/linuxreality/muffin_clouds_summertime.tar > > > > > > > > > > 2008/2/22 Mar?a Leandro : > > > > > like this one... or something > > > > > > http://www.miriamruiz.es/debfonts/1754ebd3bc2e1eaf5b833389bd7b72de.png > > > > > > > > > > > > 2008/2/23, Thomas Canniot : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le Sat, 23 Feb 2008 07:10:54 +1930, > > > > "Mar?a Leandro" a ?crit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like this background... but in instead I would use some like > Purisa > > > > > style... maybe more coursive and delicate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you mean by purisa ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thomas > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > tatica > > > Maria Gracia Leandro > > > http://www.tatica.org > > > http://www.iseit.net > > > http://www.latinux.org > > > http://www.fedora-ve.org > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > > > LinuxUser= 440285 > > > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > > > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > --- > > use linux. support free software. > > subscribe to http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.iseit.net > http://www.latinux.org > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- --- use linux. support free software. subscribe to http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml From jspaleta at gmail.com Sun Feb 24 17:48:18 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 08:48:18 -0900 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <1203785301.2786.15.camel@pc-notebook> <604aa7910802231537l10d0d028jc2ef9fbfc2331d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910802240948t2b6de5c3u871608ea618ff31a@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Camilo Mesias > It's really cool stuff to play with - if you drop the melted sulfur > into cold water it turns into a moldable goo Fedora Sulfur when hot is moldable goo.... there's a compelling allegory here somewhere. -jef From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Feb 25 07:57:47 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:57:47 +0200 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <47C274FB.1080701@nicubunu.ro> Martin Sourada wrote: > As for the issue of being it blue, well, I don't like very much the idea > of having different colour wallpaper than blue, not only because I like > blue (the Mo's grey/yellow sulphuric designs are great even though they > are NOT blue), but mostly because I, and many other people, have Fedora > already associated with blue. Yeah, we can experiment with other colours > as well, but as far as we don't want to confuse people we need blue to > be the main colour. Now when you look at fedora wallpapers, you most > likely guess it's fedora, if we will have grey wallpaper nobody would > guess it's fedora... But anyway, if more people prefer grey, I am not > against it ;-) I think blue should be *at least* partly used, so It could be gray with some secondary blue elements. > So the main question is: do we want the default colour to be part of > fedora "image" or not? If the former, than we have to have blue > wallpapers, if the latter, we can have in each release different > coloured one... Ubuntu is brown, SUSE is green, Fedora is blue. I am OK with providing wallpapers in two color versions: one default blue and something else as an alternative. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From mclasen at redhat.com Mon Feb 25 14:59:46 2008 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:59:46 -0500 Subject: multi-resolution backgrounds Message-ID: <1203951586.3427.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have now pushed support for multi-resolution backgrounds into rawhide. The file format for this has slightly changed, to support multi-resolution in animated backgrounds as well. The way it works is that you can use one or more elements whereever the format previously expected a filename: 30 /path/to/file1 /path/to/file2 /path/to/file3 /path/to/file4 /path/to/file5 /path/to/file6 10000 /the/end Matthias From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Feb 25 15:30:55 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:30:55 +0200 Subject: multi-resolution backgrounds In-Reply-To: <1203951586.3427.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1203951586.3427.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <47C2DF2F.1090609@nicubunu.ro> Matthias Clasen wrote: > I have now pushed support for multi-resolution backgrounds into rawhide. > The file format for this has slightly changed, to support > multi-resolution in animated backgrounds as well. The way it works is > that you can use one or more elements whereever the format > previously expected a filename: Thanks for the heads-up! I think we should target at least the following screen sizes in F9: - widescreen 16:10 (1920x1200) - standard 4:3 (1600x1200) - eeepc (800x480) - 1280x1024 odd, but used a lot (the second resolution used on the web according with my website stats). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From mclasen at redhat.com Mon Feb 25 15:35:53 2008 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:35:53 -0500 Subject: multi-resolution backgrounds In-Reply-To: <47C2DF2F.1090609@nicubunu.ro> References: <1203951586.3427.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47C2DF2F.1090609@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1203953753.3427.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 17:30 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Matthias Clasen wrote: > > I have now pushed support for multi-resolution backgrounds into rawhide. > > The file format for this has slightly changed, to support > > multi-resolution in animated backgrounds as well. The way it works is > > that you can use one or more elements whereever the format > > previously expected a filename: > > Thanks for the heads-up! > I think we should target at least the following screen sizes in F9: > - widescreen 16:10 (1920x1200) > - standard 4:3 (1600x1200) > - eeepc (800x480) > - 1280x1024 odd, but used a lot (the second resolution used on the web > according with my website stats). Of course, it may be the case that the background you come up with is not sensitive to aspect ratio and/or size, but if it is, we have the means now to handle it. From jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com Mon Feb 25 19:27:01 2008 From: jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:27:01 +0000 Subject: Interview Banner Message-ID: <3263b11b0802251127w704ff095wa30296ccfa96891b@mail.gmail.com> Hi, The new interview promo banner...I was putting up an interview tonight with Dan Williams about NetworkManager so I downloaded the SVG source but it doesn't seem to have the background embedded with it!? Am I doing something wrong? Best wishes, Jon p.s. I got the banner source from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners From duffy at fedoraproject.org Mon Feb 25 20:00:15 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:00:15 -0500 Subject: Interview Banner In-Reply-To: <3263b11b0802251127w704ff095wa30296ccfa96891b@mail.gmail.com> References: <3263b11b0802251127w704ff095wa30296ccfa96891b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47C31E4F.7060708@fedoraproject.org> Hey Jon, Jonathan Roberts wrote: > Hi, > > The new interview promo banner...I was putting up an interview tonight > with Dan Williams about NetworkManager so I downloaded the SVG source > but it doesn't seem to have the background embedded with it!? Am I > doing something wrong? I'm not sure what's going on. It could be some kind of issue across versions of inkscape. I run the lastest inkscape .46+ on my systems, I was able to download the SVG from the wiki just now and see the embedded bitmap background (converted to bitmap cuz it uses the new 3d box tool feature). I am not sure why bitmap embedding would not work on older inkscape versions though. Anyhow, I went ahead and made one, here it is: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners#head-06f0aa176c62aa8a6d7dcfd70fc859a7a5e89cb1 ~m From jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com Mon Feb 25 20:07:54 2008 From: jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:07:54 +0000 Subject: Interview Banner In-Reply-To: <47C31E4F.7060708@fedoraproject.org> References: <3263b11b0802251127w704ff095wa30296ccfa96891b@mail.gmail.com> <47C31E4F.7060708@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <3263b11b0802251207y6f83021fo5319e11accaa8b6a@mail.gmail.com> On 25/02/2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hey Jon, > > > Jonathan Roberts wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The new interview promo banner...I was putting up an interview tonight > > with Dan Williams about NetworkManager so I downloaded the SVG source > > but it doesn't seem to have the background embedded with it!? Am I > > doing something wrong? > > > I'm not sure what's going on. It could be some kind of issue across > versions of inkscape. I run the lastest inkscape .46+ on my systems, I > was able to download the SVG from the wiki just now and see the embedded > bitmap background (converted to bitmap cuz it uses the new 3d box tool > feature). I am not sure why bitmap embedding would not work on older > inkscape versions though. > > Anyhow, I went ahead and made one, here it is: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners#head-06f0aa176c62aa8a6d7dcfd70fc859a7a5e89cb1 Strange - it looks super though so thanks very much for doing it! I'll drop a message to the websites list and ask them to put it up... Have a nice day :) Jon From tshimulu at gmail.com Mon Feb 25 22:31:13 2008 From: tshimulu at gmail.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:31:13 -0800 Subject: [Round 3] Shoowa theme update In-Reply-To: <47BFEA24.80703@thefinalzone.com> References: <47BFEA24.80703@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Shoowa Modified shape to be rounded and switched yellow to dark red. -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Project Contributor Fedora Artwork -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So we have so far one gray and 3 shades of blue, which is the one we are going forward with? opinions? informal votes? post here... > References: > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Feb 26 07:40:27 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:10:27 +0530 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47C3C26B.9070405@fedoraproject.org> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: >> I noticed you attached the darker version to the Waves page [1]. I >> decided to give it another try and created a version that is neither >> that light like the first tries nor that dark like your try. I attached >> it to the page [1]. > > I think now is the time for us to settle on one single color, do the > base wallpaper and start the other associated graphics, from grub to > splashes (the deadline is coming). > So we have so far one gray and 3 shades of blue, which is the one we are > going forward with? opinions? informal votes? post here... Gray. Rahul From martin.sourada at gmail.com Tue Feb 26 11:52:49 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:52:49 +0100 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C3C26B.9070405@fedoraproject.org> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C3C26B.9070405@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1204026769.4749.1.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 13:10 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: > > Martin Sourada wrote: > >> I noticed you attached the darker version to the Waves page [1]. I > >> decided to give it another try and created a version that is neither > >> that light like the first tries nor that dark like your try. I attached > >> it to the page [1]. > > > > I think now is the time for us to settle on one single color, do the > > base wallpaper and start the other associated graphics, from grub to > > splashes (the deadline is coming). > > So we have so far one gray and 3 shades of blue, which is the one we are > > going forward with? opinions? informal votes? post here... > > Gray. > > Rahul > Mid-blue (wallpaper.4). Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I attached >> it to the page [1]. > > I think now is the time for us to settle on one single color, do the > base wallpaper and start the other associated graphics, from grub to > splashes (the deadline is coming). > So we have so far one gray and 3 shades of blue, which is the one we are > going forward with? opinions? informal votes? post here... I like the grey best... I had settled on it after trying blue. I have been meaning to play with the sulphur itself to add a blue glow. Maybe the supporting artwork could have more blue, maybe with grey accents to match, but the wallpaper would be grey? From the initial feedback on the mockups it seemed a lot of people welcomed the change to grey as a change of pace. ~m From kushaldas at gmail.com Tue Feb 26 16:07:06 2008 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:37:06 +0530 Subject: Fedora India Wallpaper Message-ID: <200802262137.07018.kushaldas@gmail.com> Hi, I just made this , my first wallpaper. http://kushaldas.in/india3.png Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.in http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur) From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Feb 26 16:36:22 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:36:22 +0200 Subject: Fedora India Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <200802262137.07018.kushaldas@gmail.com> References: <200802262137.07018.kushaldas@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47C44006.5080902@nicubunu.ro> Kushal Das wrote: > I just made this , my first wallpaper. > http://kushaldas.in/india3.png That is not bad for your first one, keep up with the work! I would make the halo (white blur) more softer and do something to the logo - add also a halo, a shadow, a highlight, something. (how about moving it under the highlight on the land?) Also you may want to play a bit with the position and not have everything in the center, for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thirds (but you can use other composition techniques). And you may want to do something with the background (the water): plain color is a bit boring, use a gradient or a texture. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From kushaldas at gmail.com Tue Feb 26 16:55:42 2008 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:25:42 +0530 Subject: Fedora India Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47C44006.5080902@nicubunu.ro> References: <200802262137.07018.kushaldas@gmail.com> <47C44006.5080902@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <200802262225.42391.kushaldas@gmail.com> On Tuesday 26 February 2008 10:06:22 pm Nicu Buculei wrote: > That is not bad for your first one, keep up with the work! > > I would make the halo (white blur) more softer and do something to the > logo - add also a halo, a shadow, a highlight, something. (how about > moving it under the highlight on the land?) I still don't understand these words properly :( Can you please make a few screencasts with audio for the newbies like me :) > > Also you may want to play a bit with the position and not have > everything in the center, for example > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thirds (but you can use other > composition techniques). I use that for photography, never thought of using that here though :) > And you may want to do something with the background (the water): plain > color is a bit boring, use a gradient or a texture. Will use these techniques and will make a few derivatives . Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.in http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur) From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Tue Feb 26 17:11:48 2008 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:11:48 -0600 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47C44854.2020808@gmail.com> I'm going to go with the darkest blue wallpapers. One of the last 2 under the Round 3 header. I think something that we could change for color for that feature is either some of the shades of the sulfur or perhaps the colors of the waves. Nicu Buculei wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: >> I noticed you attached the darker version to the Waves page [1]. I >> decided to give it another try and created a version that is neither >> that light like the first tries nor that dark like your try. I attached >> it to the page [1]. > > I think now is the time for us to settle on one single color, do the > base wallpaper and start the other associated graphics, from grub to > splashes (the deadline is coming). > So we have so far one gray and 3 shades of blue, which is the one we > are going forward with? opinions? informal votes? post here... > >> References: >> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves > > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Feb 26 17:20:42 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:20:42 +0200 Subject: Fedora India Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <200802262225.42391.kushaldas@gmail.com> References: <200802262137.07018.kushaldas@gmail.com> <47C44006.5080902@nicubunu.ro> <200802262225.42391.kushaldas@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47C44A6A.8020306@nicubunu.ro> Kushal Das wrote: > On Tuesday 26 February 2008 10:06:22 pm Nicu Buculei wrote: >> That is not bad for your first one, keep up with the work! >> >> I would make the halo (white blur) more softer and do something to the >> logo - add also a halo, a shadow, a highlight, something. (how about >> moving it under the highlight on the land?) > I still don't understand these words properly :( Can you please make a few > screencasts with audio for the newbies like me :) Well, neither of us is a native English speaker :D - you have the big India shape and under it a white hallo - for that I would either increase the blur amount, increase the transparency or both; - maybe do the same thing with the bubble logo, either leave it white and call it a hallo or make it black and call it a shadow; - for the India shape you use a light blue-gray color and a light zone in the upper part, the highlight. I think it would be interesting to do something similar for the bubble; - alternatively, you have the land object, the land higlight objet over it and the logo bubble over that. You can change the Z-order and have: land, logo bubble, land highlight. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Feb 26 18:19:27 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:19:27 -0900 Subject: Fedora India Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <200802262137.07018.kushaldas@gmail.com> References: <200802262137.07018.kushaldas@gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910802261019t438575eei81e558a527c421cf@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Kushal Das wrote: > Hi, > > I just made this , my first wallpaper. > http://kushaldas.in/india3.png You know what would be...keen.... Overlaying the client density map of India from the mirrorlist map with what you have there... to make an artistic topology map of what fedora usage in India looks like -jef From jspaleta at gmail.com Tue Feb 26 18:23:27 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:23:27 -0900 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <604aa7910802261023j7b0344c6xffd97e758c8440ed@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 5:45 AM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > I have been meaning to play with the sulphur itself to add a blue glow. > Maybe the supporting artwork could have more blue, maybe with grey > accents to match, but the wallpaper would be grey? burning sulfur..... > > From the initial feedback on the mockups it seemed a lot of people > welcomed the change to grey as a change of pace. I really really want to see blue...but everything i see with the sulfur yellows and blues together hasn't really worked for me. The grey and yellow works. Playing with the burning sulfur metaphor to bring in some blue hilights might do the trick. -jef From martin.sourada at gmail.com Tue Feb 26 18:54:40 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:54:40 +0100 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1204052080.4749.14.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 09:45 -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: > > Martin Sourada wrote: > >> I noticed you attached the darker version to the Waves page [1]. I > >> decided to give it another try and created a version that is neither > >> that light like the first tries nor that dark like your try. I attached > >> it to the page [1]. > > > > I think now is the time for us to settle on one single color, do the > > base wallpaper and start the other associated graphics, from grub to > > splashes (the deadline is coming). > > So we have so far one gray and 3 shades of blue, which is the one we are > > going forward with? opinions? informal votes? post here... > > I like the grey best... I had settled on it after trying blue. > > I have been meaning to play with the sulphur itself to add a blue glow. > Maybe the supporting artwork could have more blue, maybe with grey > accents to match, but the wallpaper would be grey? > Which reminds me, I really liked the third banner available for Alpha Release [1], would you be able to do a wallpaper using this styling? I especially like the blueish halo and strong transition between the "sea" and the "sky". > From the initial feedback on the mockups it seemed a lot of people > welcomed the change to grey as a change of pace. > > ~m > Well, I noticed it as well, and I like the grey version a lot, but I guess I could not get used much to such colours. I prefer more saturated ones, the grey feels a little depressing, like if it was a sea/sky on some distant inhabited planet composed mostly of lava-like surface. But don't care about me, I'm probably the only one with this feeling anyway :-D And some technical comment, grey gradients tend to not look smooth on weaker/older/cheap lcd displays, while saturated ones are usually better... Martin References: [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fedora9alpha-banner2_mo.png -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The > grey and yellow works. Playing with the burning sulfur metaphor to > bring in some blue hilights might do the trick. Well here's my first attempt: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-1096218c57cd3645e55b094661dd3f7208924a9b Had another idea to make the flames a bigger part of the concept, hopefully i'll get a chance to sketch that tommorrow. ~m From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 27 04:16:08 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:16:08 -0500 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <1204052080.4749.14.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> <1204052080.4749.14.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <47C4E408.30804@fedoraproject.org> Hey Martin, Martin Sourada wrote: > Well, I noticed it as well, and I like the grey version a lot, but I > guess I could not get used much to such colours. I prefer more saturated > ones, the grey feels a little depressing, like if it was a sea/sky on > some distant inhabited planet composed mostly of lava-like surface. But > don't care about me, I'm probably the only one with this feeling > anyway :-D It is a little depressing on the one hand, but on the other it is very non-distracting, perfect for a default wallpaper. > > And some technical comment, grey gradients tend to not look smooth on > weaker/older/cheap lcd displays, while saturated ones are usually > better... I've never heard this before? ~m From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Feb 27 04:49:33 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:49:33 -0900 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802261023j7b0344c6xffd97e758c8440ed@mail.gmail.com> <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <604aa7910802262049kd15ba93yc690ad43a9c36836@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:14 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Well here's my first attempt: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-1096218c57cd3645e55b094661dd3f7208924a9b > > Had another idea to make the flames a bigger part of the concept, > hopefully i'll get a chance to sketch that tommorrow. That's pretty good i think. I think its a workable way to get blue into there. 1) The edge between the sulfur crystal and the flame feels a bit heavy. 2) You might think about pulling back the flame such that its not rising from the full width of the crystal. Perhaps just burning the edge of the crystal...perhaps... the leading edge. Fedora Sulfur: What's Hot on the Leading Edge of Open Software. -jef From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Feb 27 06:55:50 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:55:50 +0200 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802261023j7b0344c6xffd97e758c8440ed@mail.gmail.com> <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47C50976.1000608@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Well here's my first attempt: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-1096218c57cd3645e55b094661dd3f7208924a9b I like where are you going with this. Maybe make the flame look more like a flame and not like a blue cloud? Even if it not so realistic (considering the photo from wikimedia commons), it may be better distinguishable. > Had another idea to make the flames a bigger part of the concept, > hopefully i'll get a chance to sketch that tommorrow. And a drop of red molten sulfur? (but a small one) http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Burning-sulfur.png -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Feb 27 07:19:14 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:19:14 +0100 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C4E408.30804@fedoraproject.org> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> <1204052080.4749.14.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <47C4E408.30804@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1204096754.3515.7.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 23:16 -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hey Martin, > > Martin Sourada wrote: > > Well, I noticed it as well, and I like the grey version a lot, but I > > guess I could not get used much to such colours. I prefer more saturated > > ones, the grey feels a little depressing, like if it was a sea/sky on > > some distant inhabited planet composed mostly of lava-like surface. But > > don't care about me, I'm probably the only one with this feeling > > anyway :-D > > It is a little depressing on the one hand, but on the other it is very > non-distracting, perfect for a default wallpaper. Perhaps. Come to think of it, how is the alternative artwork project going? I think we could provide (a) package(s) with alternative wallpapers for F9? > > > > And some technical comment, grey gradients tend to not look smooth on > > weaker/older/cheap lcd displays, while saturated ones are usually > > better... > > I've never heard this before? > > ~m > I don't know the technical details, but whenever I read some tests of LCD monitors, one of the tests they usually do is a test of quality of display of greys and that's usually where the cheaper LCD fails. But I think it's getting better with newer technologies. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Feb 27 07:32:03 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:32:03 +0200 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <1204096754.3515.7.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> <1204052080.4749.14.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <47C4E408.30804@fedoraproject.org> <1204096754.3515.7.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <47C511F3.7010603@nicubunu.ro> Martin Sourada wrote: > Perhaps. Come to think of it, how is the alternative artwork project > going? I think we could provide (a) package(s) with alternative > wallpapers for F9? I am not aware about any new developments on this front, but it is trivial to package and include additional *wallpapers*, you have only to create a RPM which will deploy some PNG (and maybe XML for animation/multiple resolution) in a certain directory. The real problem was for the alternate artwork to replace the entire look, from grub from rhgb to wallpaper, but I think this is not on the agenda anymore (it was an issue a year ago). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Feb 27 09:59:46 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:59:46 +0200 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C50976.1000608@nicubunu.ro> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802261023j7b0344c6xffd97e758c8440ed@mail.gmail.com> <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> <47C50976.1000608@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47C53492.8020907@nicubunu.ro> Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> >> Well here's my first attempt: >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-1096218c57cd3645e55b094661dd3f7208924a9b > > > I like where are you going with this. > Maybe make the flame look more like a flame and not like a blue cloud? > Even if it not so realistic (considering the photo from wikimedia > commons), it may be better distinguishable. 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Thanks, ~m From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Feb 27 21:46:54 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:46:54 -0900 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C53492.8020907@nicubunu.ro> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802261023j7b0344c6xffd97e758c8440ed@mail.gmail.com> <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> <47C50976.1000608@nicubunu.ro> <47C53492.8020907@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <604aa7910802271346s28d0255ap1fe9e970ad1bae4@mail.gmail.com> 2008/2/27 Nicu Buculei : > Attached a sketch of what I mean. I do not like the blood. If we could give to rawhide or test release desktops....that'd be great. I totally get what you are trying to do with the flame. Can you do the flame so that its burning just the left side of the cyrstal instead of across the whole width? So have it rising up from the large lower left cyrstal as well as the smaller upper left crystal.. sort of two distinct flames that overlap. -jef From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Wed Feb 27 21:58:55 2008 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:58:55 -0800 Subject: Round 3 Deadline In-Reply-To: <47C5B392.9040003@fedoraproject.org> References: <47C5B392.9040003@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47C5DD1F.8050901@thefinalzone.com> M?ir?n Duffy a ?crit : > It looks like we could use a little extra time on round 3. The > deadline is tomorrow. Would anyone be opposed to extending it another > week out? Not at all. Luya From jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com Wed Feb 27 22:34:28 2008 From: jonathan.roberts.uk at googlemail.com (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:34:28 +0000 Subject: FUDCon F10 Banner Message-ID: <3263b11b0802271434y88bf080h1d3c2f07184b5f80@mail.gmail.com> Hey all, Is it a little early to start advertising FUDCon F10? I don't think so! Anybody got any ideas for banners!? Best wishes, Jon From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Feb 27 22:56:24 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:56:24 -0500 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802261023j7b0344c6xffd97e758c8440ed@mail.gmail.com> <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47C5EA98.3070306@fedoraproject.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Jeff Spaleta wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 5:45 AM, M?ir?n Duffy >> wrote: >>> I have been meaning to play with the sulphur itself to add a blue glow. >>> Maybe the supporting artwork could have more blue, maybe with grey >>> accents to match, but the wallpaper would be grey? >> >> burning sulfur..... >>> From the initial feedback on the mockups it seemed a lot of people >>> welcomed the change to grey as a change of pace. >> >> I really really want to see blue...but everything i see with the >> sulfur yellows and blues together hasn't really worked for me. The >> grey and yellow works. Playing with the burning sulfur metaphor to >> bring in some blue hilights might do the trick. > > Well here's my first attempt: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-1096218c57cd3645e55b094661dd3f7208924a9b > > > Had another idea to make the flames a bigger part of the concept, > hopefully i'll get a chance to sketch that tommorrow. This is sort of the kind of thing I was thinking, but very lame in execution: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/flamin.png (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/flamin.svg) ~m From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Feb 27 23:13:16 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:13:16 -0900 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C5EA98.3070306@fedoraproject.org> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802261023j7b0344c6xffd97e758c8440ed@mail.gmail.com> <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> <47C5EA98.3070306@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <604aa7910802271513h7d2681dcx43ba99e755e04b84@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 1:56 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > This is sort of the kind of thing I was thinking, but very lame in > execution: > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/flamin.png I like the first attempt more. It just need to be a little more photo-realistic. Think propane flame, rising from the burning corner of a couple of the sulfur crystals. Nicu's sketch is closer to what I'm feeling...though the exact style in his sketch is more cartoon-y that want I'd like to see (and infinitely better than I can do). I might find the time this evening to take Nicu's svg and sketch what I'm trying to describe...with the understanding that it will need to be made more photo-realistic. -jef From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Feb 27 23:42:46 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:42:46 -0900 Subject: Just FYI... LWN subscription request lottery is underway Message-ID: <604aa7910802271542t3eb5841fn1552e3f327451241@mail.gmail.com> Just in case you art people didn't see the announcement.... if you have an active FAS account and want a subscription to LWN, we're holding a lottery for ~75 subscriptions. Even if you already have your own LWN subscription, you can give me the LWN account name of another person, just as long as you do so using your name and your fas account. Details here: http://jspaleta.livejournal.com/#item19142 And I want you guys thinking about how you'd like to recognize contributors in your corner of the Fedora Project. I will be putting a proposal together on how we can organize a recognition framework in which different subprojects can plugin using their own recognition criteria, bounded by some general policy that applies Fedora wide. So be thinking about it, so when my proposal lands you'll be ready to be part of that discussion from your pov. -jef From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Wed Feb 27 23:47:35 2008 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:47:35 -0800 Subject: Just FYI... LWN subscription request lottery is underway In-Reply-To: <604aa7910802271542t3eb5841fn1552e3f327451241@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa7910802271542t3eb5841fn1552e3f327451241@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47C5F697.7010208@thefinalzone.com> Already submitted Luya From jakub.rusinek at gmail.com Wed Feb 27 15:24:49 2008 From: jakub.rusinek at gmail.com (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:24:49 +0100 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C57C83.8010405@gmail.com> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802261023j7b0344c6xffd97e758c8440ed@mail.gmail.com> <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> <47C50976.1000608@nicubunu.ro> <47C53492.8020907@nicubunu.ro> <47C57C83.8010405@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47C580C1.50001@gmail.com> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-1096218c57cd3645e55b094661dd3f7208924a9b Mouldy sulphur... From jmbabich at gmail.com Wed Feb 27 20:58:22 2008 From: jmbabich at gmail.com (John Babich) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:58:22 +0300 Subject: Marketing Collateral Design Request Message-ID: <9d2c731f0802271258g43e45d5ds6669d14be302ba86@mail.gmail.com> Fedora Art Team: Inspired by the incredibly long and rambling thread on Ubuntu Marketing, centering upon Ubuntu Cola, the UK's First Freetrade Cola, and lack of sleep, the idea arose while a group of us were free-associating after a Fedora Docs meeting. How about a poster promoting a new marketing idea? Fedora Sparkling Water - pure and unencumbered - close to the source We could design a poster, bottle label, coasters, wallpaper, etc. - a complete faux promotional campaign. Final note of caution: Of course, if we actually get around to producing real bottles of water, we may need to forget about "sparkling", since that might be too expensive to produce. (There's that nasty voice of reason chirping up again.) Just the rantings of a tired mind - or not...? Best Regards, John Babich Volunteer, Fedora Project From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Thu Feb 28 00:31:49 2008 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:31:49 -0800 Subject: [Round 3]Shoowa theme variation update Message-ID: <47C600F5.9070808@thefinalzone.com> Just did some update: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Shoowa Luya -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It definitely ensures a consistent brand experience as far as the shapes/forms of the logo - where there aren't enough colors, just don't use the logomark. Since the logotype is only one color anyway it will be easier to ensure it stands out properly in one-color treatments. What do you folks think? If you agree we can go ahead and add this to our logo guidelines (they are ours to modify). Or we can discuss further if you don't like this idea and go with something else. Thanks, ~m From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 28 03:00:57 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:00:57 -0500 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C580C1.50001@gmail.com> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802261023j7b0344c6xffd97e758c8440ed@mail.gmail.com> <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> <47C50976.1000608@nicubunu.ro> <47C53492.8020907@nicubunu.ro> <47C57C83.8010405@gmail.com> <47C580C1.50001@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47C623E9.3@fedoraproject.org> Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-1096218c57cd3645e55b094661dd3f7208924a9b >> > > Mouldy sulphur... Very constructive, thanks. ~m From ivazqueznet at gmail.com Thu Feb 28 03:18:36 2008 From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:18:36 -0500 Subject: Fedora Logo Guidelines - B&W Logo Usage In-Reply-To: <47C62201.9020309@redhat.com> References: <47C62201.9020309@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1204168716.31076.3.camel@ignacio.lan> On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 21:52 -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > One idea that we came up with was for black & white (no greys) or any > 1-color treatment, to just use the "fedora" logotype without the > infinity logomark. So we would basically be requiring folks to use at > least 2 ink/screen colors to be able to use the logo in accordance with > the guidelines. +1 The logo looks like ass in monochrome. -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Feb 28 04:00:30 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:00:30 -0900 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C5EA98.3070306@fedoraproject.org> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802261023j7b0344c6xffd97e758c8440ed@mail.gmail.com> <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> <47C5EA98.3070306@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <604aa7910802272000y6a2c3b0ex922bdd433b522749@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 1:56 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > This is sort of the kind of thing I was thinking, but very lame in > execution: Here's my synthesis of your and Nicu's work http://jspaleta.fedorapeople.org/Fedora/sulfuric-waves-wallpaper.jef.png http://jspaleta.fedorapeople.org/Fedora/sulfuric-waves-wallpaper.burningblue.jef.svg The flames aren't right... that need more texture. -jef From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 28 04:01:52 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:01:52 -0500 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <604aa7910802271513h7d2681dcx43ba99e755e04b84@mail.gmail.com> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802261023j7b0344c6xffd97e758c8440ed@mail.gmail.com> <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> <47C5EA98.3070306@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802271513h7d2681dcx43ba99e755e04b84@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47C63230.1030302@fedoraproject.org> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 1:56 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> This is sort of the kind of thing I was thinking, but very lame in >> execution: >> >> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/flamin.png > > > I like the first attempt more. It just need to be a little more photo-realistic. How about this? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-7b831bee9cb2600c56c61ad7745210f7f69dcfe4 ~m From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Feb 28 04:08:10 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:08:10 -0900 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C63230.1030302@fedoraproject.org> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802261023j7b0344c6xffd97e758c8440ed@mail.gmail.com> <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> <47C5EA98.3070306@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802271513h7d2681dcx43ba99e755e04b84@mail.gmail.com> <47C63230.1030302@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <604aa7910802272008r5c983ce0hcfc3d127030809a0@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 7:01 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > How about this? > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-7b831bee9cb2600c56c61ad7745210f7f69dcfe4 That's real close. The halo effect is interesting. Basically what you need to try for is making it appear that specific connected edges of certain crystals are aflame. Not just the flat projection of the outline, but also some of of the edges that appears to be in the foreground. Edges not faces. You want a diffuse halo of flame sort of clinging to a face..but you want the edges to be the hot spots and when appropriate the flame wells up along an edge or at a corner. -jef From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 28 04:16:46 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:16:46 -0500 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <604aa7910802272008r5c983ce0hcfc3d127030809a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802261023j7b0344c6xffd97e758c8440ed@mail.gmail.com> <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> <47C5EA98.3070306@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802271513h7d2681dcx43ba99e755e04b84@mail.gmail.com> <47C63230.1030302@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802272008r5c983ce0hcfc3d127030809a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47C635AE.4040200@fedoraproject.org> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 7:01 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> How about this? >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-7b831bee9cb2600c56c61ad7745210f7f69dcfe4 > > > That's real close. The halo effect is interesting. > > Basically what you need to try for is making it appear that specific > connected edges of certain crystals are aflame. Not just the flat > projection of the outline, but also some of of the edges that appears > to be in the foreground. Edges not faces. Okay how about this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-6a1209c765fc180ee5de7bc2df20501d8d14368b I moved the one on the right to cling along the edge of one of the faces? ~m From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Feb 28 04:11:00 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:11:00 -0900 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <604aa7910802272008r5c983ce0hcfc3d127030809a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802261023j7b0344c6xffd97e758c8440ed@mail.gmail.com> <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> <47C5EA98.3070306@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802271513h7d2681dcx43ba99e755e04b84@mail.gmail.com> <47C63230.1030302@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802272008r5c983ce0hcfc3d127030809a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910802272011j227f35cfiaa0dfed39a62a60a@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 7:01 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > How about this? > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-7b831bee9cb2600c56c61ad7745210f7f69dcfe4 > > > That's real close. The halo effect is interesting. I will say that the extended flame away from the contact point 'feels' pretty right. It has enough texture to 'feel' like a diffuse flame to me. -jef"flames are really interesting...dusty plasmas"spaleta From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Feb 28 04:45:06 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:45:06 -0900 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C635AE.4040200@fedoraproject.org> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802261023j7b0344c6xffd97e758c8440ed@mail.gmail.com> <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> <47C5EA98.3070306@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802271513h7d2681dcx43ba99e755e04b84@mail.gmail.com> <47C63230.1030302@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802272008r5c983ce0hcfc3d127030809a0@mail.gmail.com> <47C635AE.4040200@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <604aa7910802272045h24d1adcayb5be3954bfcfd9b9@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 7:16 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > I moved the one on the right to cling along the edge of one of the faces? closer still. The one you moved... the bright blue hot spot lines needs to line up along the edge of that face a little better..bright blue on the crystal "facets"... basically expand that element down and to the right.. and the blue halo needs to fade so you can almost see yellow in the center of that face. The flame needs to appear to rise over the center of that face..but at its base its very diffuse over the center of the face. its like a propane torch.... the center of the flame at the base of the flame near the torch outlet is almost transparent and very diffuse. -jef From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Feb 28 04:46:51 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:46:51 -0900 Subject: [Round 3]Shoowa theme variation update In-Reply-To: <47C600F5.9070808@thefinalzone.com> References: <47C600F5.9070808@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910802272046w5d3c5d40l74c1c4bb3c8e2fc0@mail.gmail.com> 2008/2/27 Luya Tshimbalanga : > Just did some update: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Shoowa wow... that's pretty interesting. You found a way to get the yellow and the blues to look pretty good together to me. -jef From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 28 04:54:05 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:54:05 -0500 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <604aa7910802272045h24d1adcayb5be3954bfcfd9b9@mail.gmail.com> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802261023j7b0344c6xffd97e758c8440ed@mail.gmail.com> <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> <47C5EA98.3070306@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802271513h7d2681dcx43ba99e755e04b84@mail.gmail.com> <47C63230.1030302@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802272008r5c983ce0hcfc3d127030809a0@mail.gmail.com> <47C635AE.4040200@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802272045h24d1adcayb5be3954bfcfd9b9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47C63E6D.2040903@fedoraproject.org> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 7:16 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> I moved the one on the right to cling along the edge of one of the faces? > > > closer still. > > The one you moved... the bright blue hot spot lines needs to line up > along the edge of that face a little better..bright blue on the > crystal "facets"... You can't put the brightest color along the very edge because it then loses its brightness and the effect falls apart. Eg look: http://flickr.com/photos/xanin/327630112/ See how there is a very slight thin layer of darker blue outside the brightest part? the brightest shape is never directly on the edge. > basically expand that element down and to the > right.. and the blue halo needs to fade so you can almost see yellow > in the center of that face. The flame needs to appear to rise over > the center of that face..but at its base its very diffuse over the > center of the face. > > its like a propane torch.... the center of the flame at the base of > the flame near the torch outlet is almost transparent and very > diffuse. Ah okay i can give that a try. ~m From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Feb 28 04:55:47 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:55:47 -0900 Subject: Fedora Logo Guidelines - B&W Logo Usage In-Reply-To: <47C62201.9020309@redhat.com> References: <47C62201.9020309@redhat.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910802272055s3a868e64m1efa0e97cb71e1d0@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 5:52 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > What do you folks think? If you agree we can go ahead and add this to > our logo guidelines (they are ours to modify). Or we can discuss further > if you don't like this idea and go with something else. works for me. -jef From jspaleta at gmail.com Thu Feb 28 05:03:50 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:03:50 -0900 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C63E6D.2040903@fedoraproject.org> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <604aa7910802261023j7b0344c6xffd97e758c8440ed@mail.gmail.com> <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> <47C5EA98.3070306@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802271513h7d2681dcx43ba99e755e04b84@mail.gmail.com> <47C63230.1030302@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802272008r5c983ce0hcfc3d127030809a0@mail.gmail.com> <47C635AE.4040200@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802272045h24d1adcayb5be3954bfcfd9b9@mail.gmail.com> <47C63E6D.2040903@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <604aa7910802272103j6e172e89x4e5d6014446d9d2b@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 7:54 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > http://flickr.com/photos/xanin/327630112/ > > See how there is a very slight thin layer of darker blue outside the > brightest part? the brightest shape is never directly on the edge. That picture is deceiving, you aren't really seeing the exhaust port for the flame on a stove burner. The bright part of that flame is downstream where the flame comes into "focus" with itself, its not that bright at the exhaust. So if you want to have the brightest blue elements appear in the flame to simulate a focus effect, thats cool. But on the surface of the cyrstal, the edge is relatively brigher than the center of the face. -jef From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Feb 28 07:20:08 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:20:08 +0200 Subject: Round 3 Deadline In-Reply-To: <47C5B392.9040003@fedoraproject.org> References: <47C5B392.9040003@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47C660A8.8040706@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > It looks like we could use a little extra time on round 3. The deadline > is tomorrow. Would anyone be opposed to extending it another week out? I am fine with that (clearly, neither Sulfuric Waves or Shoowa are ready) *if* we are still on track with the general F9 schedule. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Feb 28 12:53:50 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 07:53:50 -0500 Subject: Round 3 Deadline In-Reply-To: <47C660A8.8040706@nicubunu.ro> References: <47C5B392.9040003@fedoraproject.org> <47C660A8.8040706@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47C6AEDE.3020903@fedoraproject.org> Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> It looks like we could use a little extra time on round 3. The >> deadline is tomorrow. Would anyone be opposed to extending it another >> week out? > > I am fine with that (clearly, neither Sulfuric Waves or Shoowa are > ready) *if* we are still on track with the general F9 schedule. Yep, we won't make beta probably but we'll most certainly make the release candidate so we should be OK. ~m From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri Feb 29 05:06:49 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:06:49 -0900 Subject: Marketing Collateral Design Request In-Reply-To: <9d2c731f0802271258g43e45d5ds6669d14be302ba86@mail.gmail.com> References: <9d2c731f0802271258g43e45d5ds6669d14be302ba86@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910802282106s2fa7e947y3ea420a367e58cec@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:58 AM, John Babich wrote: > Fedora Sparkling Water - pure and unencumbered - close to the source Jefrey like....or maybe I'm just gassy...hard to tell. Perhaps Fedora Spring Water is a better name....but i like the tagline.. a lot. > > We could design a poster, bottle label, coasters, wallpaper, etc. - a > complete faux promotional campaign. I'm all for it... I have no idea how to make it happen. Sounds like something Max would really be keen on. Is this something the Store SIG could find a way to put together? You might be able to put together a kit to make labels, that can just be applied to generic bottled water. So you can buy the water locally near a trade show and then re-brand it. -jef From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Feb 29 07:59:33 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:59:33 +0200 Subject: multi-resolution backgrounds In-Reply-To: <1203951586.3427.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1203951586.3427.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <47C7BB65.6000505@nicubunu.ro> Matthias Clasen wrote: > I have now pushed support for multi-resolution backgrounds into rawhide. > The file format for this has slightly changed, to support > multi-resolution in animated backgrounds as well. The way it works is > that you can use one or more elements whereever the format > previously expected a filename: Question 1: what happens if we define backgrounds for 1920x1200, 1600x1200 and 1280x1024 and the real screen size is not on that list, say 1024x768? It will be used the first from the list (in this case, one with an unfitting aspect ratio) or a resolution with the same aspect ratio (in this case 1600x1200)? Question 2: suppose the screen size is 1024x768 and we use both multi-resolution and animation. Somehow the theme is defined badly, at "from" it have 800x600, 1024x768 and 1920x1200 but at "to" only 800x600 and 1920x1200. What will happen? The transition fail or it will go do a different resolution? And a variation: animation with multiple transitions, the first transition has both correct "from" and "to" resolutions, but the second transition does not have all the screen sizes from the first transition. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From linux at elfshadow.net Fri Feb 29 13:45:10 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:45:10 -0500 Subject: Marketing Collateral Design Request In-Reply-To: <604aa7910802282106s2fa7e947y3ea420a367e58cec@mail.gmail.com> References: <9d2c731f0802271258g43e45d5ds6669d14be302ba86@mail.gmail.com> <604aa7910802282106s2fa7e947y3ea420a367e58cec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10e0a9b00802290545q4300d071w6f2f0acb8546d940@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > I'm all for it... I have no idea how to make it happen. Sounds like > something Max would really be keen on. Is this something the Store SIG > could find a way to put together? The Store SIG could certainly provide a place to make merchandise available once we have a store in place. The Store SIG is currently wrapping up evaluating 3rd party vendors to handle the store front. Right now the current front runner is spreadshirt.com. The types of products from their store is more limited, but quality of prints is supposed to be higher (waiting for an order from them to be sure). But yes, the goal is for when we have a store.fp.o site is to allow designs to be uploaded to the store for sale to the public. We just aren't quite there yet. Thanks! ~Jeffrey From mclasen at redhat.com Fri Feb 29 15:40:29 2008 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:40:29 -0500 Subject: multi-resolution backgrounds In-Reply-To: <47C7BB65.6000505@nicubunu.ro> References: <1203951586.3427.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47C7BB65.6000505@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1204299629.3152.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2008-02-29 at 09:59 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Matthias Clasen wrote: > > I have now pushed support for multi-resolution backgrounds into rawhide. > > The file format for this has slightly changed, to support > > multi-resolution in animated backgrounds as well. The way it works is > > that you can use one or more elements whereever the format > > previously expected a filename: > > Question 1: what happens if we define backgrounds for 1920x1200, > 1600x1200 and 1280x1024 and the real screen size is not on that list, > say 1024x768? It will be used the first from the list (in this case, one > with an unfitting aspect ratio) or a resolution with the same aspect > ratio (in this case 1600x1200)? I wrote some code that is supposed to try and find the best aspect ratio. Of course, there are several other constraints (eg you don't want to scale up too much, even if the aspect ratio is perfect). The code may need some tweaks, but should basically work. > Question 2: suppose the screen size is 1024x768 and we use both > multi-resolution and animation. Somehow the theme is defined badly, at > "from" it have 800x600, 1024x768 and 1920x1200 but at "to" only 800x600 > and 1920x1200. What will happen? The transition fail or it will go do a > different resolution? > And a variation: animation with multiple transitions, the first > transition has both correct "from" and "to" resolutions, but the second > transition does not have all the screen sizes from the first transition. Which size to pick and scale is determined for each frame individually, so there is not a technical problem. Of course, it may still look bad, and in general I'd say "just don't do that". From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Feb 29 20:28:06 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:28:06 +0100 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C635AE.4040200@fedoraproject.org> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47B9325A.7040106@nicubunu.ro> <1203767342.2786.12.camel@pc-notebook> <47C3BBE8.1060506@nicubunu.ro> <47C42606.900@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802261023j7b0344c6xffd97e758c8440ed@mail.gmail.com> <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> <47C5EA98.3070306@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802271513h7d2681dcx43ba99e755e04b84@mail.gmail.com> <47C63230.1030302@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802272008r5c983ce0hcfc3d127030809a0@mail.gmail.com> <47C635AE.4040200@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1204316886.10024.8.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 23:16 -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 7:01 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> How about this? > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-7b831bee9cb2600c56c61ad7745210f7f69dcfe4 > > > > > > That's real close. The halo effect is interesting. > > > > Basically what you need to try for is making it appear that specific > > connected edges of certain crystals are aflame. Not just the flat > > projection of the outline, but also some of of the edges that appears > > to be in the foreground. Edges not faces. > > Okay how about this: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-6a1209c765fc180ee5de7bc2df20501d8d14368b > > I moved the one on the right to cling along the edge of one of the faces? > > ~m > I can't help it, but the flames look strange. They're drawn nicely, but the positioning is a little bit unreal. Considering that flame is basically hot plasma + hot air, its direction is usually upwards facing, only when (electro-)magnetic field or air flow is present the direction differs. The way they are drawn now is nearly impossible to be caused by air flow and hard to achieve by magnetic fields... So I went ahead and joined the two flames together which makes them look less out of reality... http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-42fe387ad8277d60f20733072b9ba8bd535742ea Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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They're drawn nicely, but > the positioning is a little bit unreal. Considering that flame is > basically hot plasma + hot air, its direction is usually upwards facing, > only when (electro-)magnetic field or air flow is present the direction > differs. The way they are drawn now is nearly impossible to be caused by > air flow and hard to achieve by magnetic fields... So I went ahead and > joined the two flames together which makes them look less out of > reality... > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-42fe387ad8277d60f20733072b9ba8bd535742ea AWESOME! I think this lokos great! What do you think, Jeff? ~m From camilo at mesias.co.uk Fri Feb 29 22:08:02 2008 From: camilo at mesias.co.uk (Camilo Mesias) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:08:02 +0000 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C86C7A.7060507@fedoraproject.org> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <604aa7910802261023j7b0344c6xffd97e758c8440ed@mail.gmail.com> <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> <47C5EA98.3070306@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802271513h7d2681dcx43ba99e755e04b84@mail.gmail.com> <47C63230.1030302@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802272008r5c983ce0hcfc3d127030809a0@mail.gmail.com> <47C635AE.4040200@fedoraproject.org> <1204316886.10024.8.camel@pc-notebook> <47C86C7A.7060507@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: I don't know if it helps but I was inspired to get hold of some sulphur and make some 'fake rocks' to burn. I've only done one little burn so far. It has to be done outdoors because of the fumes. I plan to do a better one soon but the weather here is terrible right now. There are a few flame pictures on the second page of this link: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=32132&l=92bed&id=656174051 -Cam From duffy at fedoraproject.org Fri Feb 29 22:27:17 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:27:17 -0500 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <604aa7910802261023j7b0344c6xffd97e758c8440ed@mail.gmail.com> <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> <47C5EA98.3070306@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802271513h7d2681dcx43ba99e755e04b84@mail.gmail.com> <47C63230.1030302@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802272008r5c983ce0hcfc3d127030809a0@mail.gmail.com> <47C635AE.4040200@fedoraproject.org> <1204316886.10024.8.camel@pc-notebook> <47C86C7A.7060507@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47C886C5.1080909@fedoraproject.org> Hi Cam! Camilo Mesias wrote: > I don't know if it helps but I was inspired to get hold of some > sulphur and make some 'fake rocks' to burn. I've only done one little > burn so far. It has to be done outdoors because of the fumes. I plan > to do a better one soon but the weather here is terrible right now. > > There are a few flame pictures on the second page of this link: > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=32132&l=92bed&id=656174051 These are really cool!!! What license are you considering for these photos? If you decide on a CC license, would you mind if I posted some of them in my blog? (giving you credit of course) ~m From camilo at mesias.co.uk Fri Feb 29 22:30:43 2008 From: camilo at mesias.co.uk (Camilo Mesias) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:30:43 +0000 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <47C886C5.1080909@fedoraproject.org> References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47C5EA98.3070306@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802271513h7d2681dcx43ba99e755e04b84@mail.gmail.com> <47C63230.1030302@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802272008r5c983ce0hcfc3d127030809a0@mail.gmail.com> <47C635AE.4040200@fedoraproject.org> <1204316886.10024.8.camel@pc-notebook> <47C86C7A.7060507@fedoraproject.org> <47C886C5.1080909@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: I'm happy to license the photos under CC. I can make the full resolution ones available (mail me if you're interested) -Cam From jspaleta at gmail.com Fri Feb 29 22:38:45 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:38:45 -0900 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: References: <1203117170.24932.90.camel@pc-notebook> <47C4E3BB.7060708@fedoraproject.org> <47C5EA98.3070306@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802271513h7d2681dcx43ba99e755e04b84@mail.gmail.com> <47C63230.1030302@fedoraproject.org> <604aa7910802272008r5c983ce0hcfc3d127030809a0@mail.gmail.com> <47C635AE.4040200@fedoraproject.org> <1204316886.10024.8.camel@pc-notebook> <47C86C7A.7060507@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <604aa7910802291438s56016d8ev215ab05095a03e4b@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Camilo Mesias wrote: > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=32132&l=92bed&id=656174051 I does my heart good seeing the open Fedora process encouraging people to go out and burn stuff producing potentially toxic fumes. The color of the molten goo is totally worth it... its purply. -jef"Really really really hopes Fedora never chooses 'liquid nitrogen' as a release code name, because knowing just one person who drank liquid nitrogen is more than enough for me"spaleta