From baerjj at gmail.com Sun Mar 2 20:11:56 2008 From: baerjj at gmail.com (John Baer) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:11:56 -0500 Subject: [Round 3] Alternative wallpapers for Sulphuric Waves In-Reply-To: <20080301170005.92A3A618BA3@hormel.redhat.com> References: <20080301170005.92A3A618BA3@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1204488716.6437.1.camel@baerj-desktop> I placed under alternate images on the wiki with a more gaseous view of ?Sulphuric Waves for your consideration. It needs work, just a thought for discussion. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves :) John From chaah86 at gmail.com Sun Mar 2 20:29:34 2008 From: chaah86 at gmail.com (Shahriman Sam) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 04:29:34 +0800 Subject: This is my Shirt design for Malaysia local community . Message-ID: <2baad8b20803021229x17e85030m9a667ea1e85f6fcb@mail.gmail.com> Hello guys, I'm not sure if this is the correct place to submit my T-Shirt designs for the fedora community in Malaysia. 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Go ahead and upload them to the wiki: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 16:05:40 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:05:40 +0100 Subject: Parsix: Persian distro makes GNOME look good Message-ID: <64b14b300803030805n23d67210q4dfb04be402f4cea@mail.gmail.com> If you look at this link you can see the full article. http://www.linux.com/feature/127394 and the screenshot is here: http://www.linux.com/var/uploads/Image/articles/127394-1.jpg I'm just wondering if there is a chance to make gnome panels also adhere to fedora color scheme? I'm amazed how Parsix made the gnome theme and gnome panels fit together with their wallpaper. Any chance of fedora going this route? Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From duffy at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 4 02:12:15 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:12:15 -0500 Subject: Fedora Logo Guidelines - B&W Logo Usage In-Reply-To: <47C62201.9020309@redhat.com> References: <47C62201.9020309@redhat.com> Message-ID: <47CCAFFF.40905@fedoraproject.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > One idea that we came up with was for black & white (no greys) or any > 1-color treatment, to just use the "fedora" logotype without the > infinity logomark. So we would basically be requiring folks to use at > least 2 ink/screen colors to be able to use the logo in accordance with > the guidelines. ... > What do you folks think? If you agree we can go ahead and add this to > our logo guidelines (they are ours to modify). Or we can discuss further > if you don't like this idea and go with something else. It sounds like there were no concerns about this, so I've gone ahead and updated the logo guidelines wiki page. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines ~m From jakub.rusinek at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 16:38:07 2008 From: jakub.rusinek at gmail.com (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:38:07 +0100 Subject: Parsix: Persian distro makes GNOME look good In-Reply-To: <64b14b300803030805n23d67210q4dfb04be402f4cea@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300803030805n23d67210q4dfb04be402f4cea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47CC296F.2010401@gmail.com> Valent Turkovic wrote: > If you look at this link you can see the full article. > http://www.linux.com/feature/127394 > > and the screenshot is here: > http://www.linux.com/var/uploads/Image/articles/127394-1.jpg > > I'm just wondering if there is a chance to make gnome panels also > adhere to fedora color scheme? Is it default Parsix theme? > I'm amazed how Parsix made the gnome theme and gnome panels fit > together with their wallpaper. Me too :) . > Any chance of fedora going this route? What about usability? -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ From smooge at gmail.com Mon Mar 3 19:58:02 2008 From: smooge at gmail.com (Stephen John Smoogen) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:58:02 -0700 Subject: Would like icons for EPEL project. Message-ID: <80d7e4090803031158r484e68d6m7b2d5deb0bd9be8e@mail.gmail.com> EPEL * StephenSmoogen * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/ * Wiki Banner, Logo, and default icon for the "Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux" group. * Open ideas are welcome, but one that was brought up was a Tugboat pulling a barge of 'Packages'. We have been told that ideas that would not fly would be a Hat looking like the USS Enterprise :). Thanks. I hope the above makes sense. I am the person who came up with the Tugboat idea.. but would be happy with anything that better expresses Enterprise Packaging. -- Stephen J Smoogen. -- CSIRT/Linux System Administrator How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world. = Shakespeare. "The Merchant of Venice" From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Tue Mar 4 14:59:16 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:59:16 +0100 Subject: Parsix: Persian distro makes GNOME look good In-Reply-To: <47CC296F.2010401@gmail.com> References: <64b14b300803030805n23d67210q4dfb04be402f4cea@mail.gmail.com> <47CC296F.2010401@gmail.com> Message-ID: <64b14b300803040659j3e9fcbc9tfdf539499a3376f7@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Valent Turkovic wrote: > > If you look at this link you can see the full article. > > http://www.linux.com/feature/127394 > > > > and the screenshot is here: > > http://www.linux.com/var/uploads/Image/articles/127394-1.jpg > > > > I'm just wondering if there is a chance to make gnome panels also > > adhere to fedora color scheme? > > Is it default Parsix theme? I believe it is. > > > I'm amazed how Parsix made the gnome theme and gnome panels fit > > together with their wallpaper. > > Me too :) . > > > > Any chance of fedora going this route? > > What about usability? What do you mean? I don't follow you. Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Tue Mar 4 15:06:11 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:06:11 +0100 Subject: Parsix: Persian distro makes GNOME look good In-Reply-To: <64b14b300803030805n23d67210q4dfb04be402f4cea@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300803030805n23d67210q4dfb04be402f4cea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <64b14b300803040706w2e84d80dmd0f24e9cef42921d@mail.gmail.com> Are there any Persians in Fedora-Artwork team :) From jakub.rusinek at gmail.com Tue Mar 4 15:28:44 2008 From: jakub.rusinek at gmail.com (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:28:44 +0100 Subject: Parsix: Persian distro makes GNOME look good In-Reply-To: <64b14b300803040659j3e9fcbc9tfdf539499a3376f7@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300803030805n23d67210q4dfb04be402f4cea@mail.gmail.com> <47CC296F.2010401@gmail.com> <64b14b300803040659j3e9fcbc9tfdf539499a3376f7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47CD6AAC.6040905@gmail.com> Valent Turkovic wrote: > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek > wrote: >> Valent Turkovic wrote: >> > If you look at this link you can see the full article. >> > http://www.linux.com/feature/127394 >> > >> > and the screenshot is here: >> > http://www.linux.com/var/uploads/Image/articles/127394-1.jpg >> > >> > I'm just wondering if there is a chance to make gnome panels also >> > adhere to fedora color scheme? >> >> Is it default Parsix theme? > > I believe it is. > >> > I'm amazed how Parsix made the gnome theme and gnome panels fit >> > together with their wallpaper. >> >> Me too :) . >> >> >> > Any chance of fedora going this route? >> >> What about usability? > > What do you mean? I don't follow you. I mean accessibility. GTK theme is dark. Less contrast = less accessibility. -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Mar 5 14:08:33 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:08:33 +0200 Subject: Parsix: Persian distro makes GNOME look good In-Reply-To: <47CD6AAC.6040905@gmail.com> References: <64b14b300803030805n23d67210q4dfb04be402f4cea@mail.gmail.com> <47CC296F.2010401@gmail.com> <64b14b300803040659j3e9fcbc9tfdf539499a3376f7@mail.gmail.com> <47CD6AAC.6040905@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47CEA961.4020305@nicubunu.ro> Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Valent Turkovic wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek >>> What about usability? >> >> What do you mean? I don't follow you. > > I mean accessibility. > > GTK theme is dark. Less contrast = less accessibility. Dark != low contrast. You can see that theme is "inverse", light text on dark background, to preserve the contrast. (but I think the theme is ugly due to the color choice: blue and orange/brown). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 21:28:25 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:28:25 +0100 Subject: [Waves Round 3] Burning Sulphur Waves Wallpaper Message-ID: <1204752506.3135.12.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Hi, I've had some time so I've played a little more with the Waves theme. First, I used the old mid-blue wallpaper as my background and realised some things: the ocean blue works quite well with the sulphur, but the transition between sky blue and ocean blue is odd. Also, it is still a little too bright. Next, seeing the sketches from John Baer I thought I could play a little with the idea of having both some sort of blue and grey in the wallpaper. In the end I ended up with removing the halo and decreasing saturation a lot. The result is nearly-grey sky and dark grey-blue ocean. This combination seems to work quite well with the blue flames we sketched earlier, so I added the flames to the wallpaper. You can see the result in the Waves page [1]. Like with the previous try, I put it on my desktop to see, after some days of using it, how it works... Thanks for comments, Martin PS: I hope that with this approach I satisfied both the "blue-lovers" and "blue-haters" ;-) PPS: I hope we can finally decide on the colour and create the rest of the graphics that is needed for Round 3 :-) References: [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-721a3978b987d9ff10f2503f096b1e77a0eb1346 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I actually sort of like the more gaseous effect.. can we get the colors in gaseous flame to 'twinkle' with the xml rotation scheme? -jef From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 6 03:01:05 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:01:05 -0500 Subject: [Waves Round 3] Burning Sulphur Waves Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <1204752506.3135.12.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> References: <1204752506.3135.12.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <47CF5E71.1000502@fedoraproject.org> Hi Martin, Martin Sourada wrote: > I've had some time so I've played a little more with the Waves theme. > First, I used the old mid-blue wallpaper as my background and realised > some things: the ocean blue works quite well with the sulphur, but the > transition between sky blue and ocean blue is odd. Also, it is still a > little too bright. Next, seeing the sketches from John Baer I thought I > could play a little with the idea of having both some sort of blue and > grey in the wallpaper. In the end I ended up with removing the halo and > decreasing saturation a lot. The result is nearly-grey sky and dark > grey-blue ocean. > PS: I hope that with this approach I satisfied both the "blue-lovers" > and "blue-haters" ;-) > > PPS: I hope we can finally decide on the colour and create the rest of > the graphics that is needed for Round 3 :-) I think this is a great compromise. It looks great. The water almost looks jewel-like. It might be nice to try some sparkles on the water. Great work! ~m From jakub.rusinek at gmail.com Wed Mar 5 14:18:59 2008 From: jakub.rusinek at gmail.com (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:18:59 +0100 Subject: Parsix: Persian distro makes GNOME look good In-Reply-To: <47CEA961.4020305@nicubunu.ro> References: <64b14b300803030805n23d67210q4dfb04be402f4cea@mail.gmail.com> <47CC296F.2010401@gmail.com> <64b14b300803040659j3e9fcbc9tfdf539499a3376f7@mail.gmail.com> <47CD6AAC.6040905@gmail.com> <47CEA961.4020305@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47CEABD3.1050001@gmail.com> Nicu Buculei wrote: > (but I think the theme is > ugly due to the color choice: blue and orange/brown). We're not Parsix, we can have different choices (; . -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 6 07:14:15 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:14:15 +0200 Subject: [Waves Round 3] Burning Sulphur Waves Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <1204752506.3135.12.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> References: <1204752506.3135.12.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <47CF99C7.6020908@nicubunu.ro> Martin Sourada wrote: > I've had some time so I've played a little more with the Waves theme. > First, I used the old mid-blue wallpaper as my background and realised > some things: the ocean blue works quite well with the sulphur, but the > transition between sky blue and ocean blue is odd. Also, it is still a > little too bright. Next, seeing the sketches from John Baer I thought I > could play a little with the idea of having both some sort of blue and > grey in the wallpaper. In the end I ended up with removing the halo and > decreasing saturation a lot. The result is nearly-grey sky and dark > grey-blue ocean. While I like your nearly-grey sky, I am not that happy with the transition from sky to water. What I liked best in Mo's grey was the smooth transition from sky to water. Do you plan to change the color of the sky as part of the "animated" background? If so, it would be good to play also with those shades. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From martin.sourada at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 08:06:26 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:06:26 +0100 Subject: [Waves Round 3] Burning Sulphur Waves Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <47CF99C7.6020908@nicubunu.ro> References: <1204752506.3135.12.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <47CF99C7.6020908@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1204790786.3135.20.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 09:14 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > > I've had some time so I've played a little more with the Waves theme. > > First, I used the old mid-blue wallpaper as my background and realised > > some things: the ocean blue works quite well with the sulphur, but the > > transition between sky blue and ocean blue is odd. Also, it is still a > > little too bright. Next, seeing the sketches from John Baer I thought I > > could play a little with the idea of having both some sort of blue and > > grey in the wallpaper. In the end I ended up with removing the halo and > > decreasing saturation a lot. The result is nearly-grey sky and dark > > grey-blue ocean. > > While I like your nearly-grey sky, I am not that happy with the > transition from sky to water. What I liked best in Mo's grey was the > smooth transition from sky to water. > Yeah, it could still be a little better, however I prefer rather strong transition from sky to watter (as opposed to the rather smooth one in Mo's grey). I think maybe we could bend the surface a little to imitate a roundness of a planet it is on, what do you think? > Do you plan to change the color of the sky as part of the "animated" > background? If so, it would be good to play also with those shades. > Well, if time permits I would not be against, but it's not a top priority. We need to do the final design for the wallpaper done and make the supporting graphics first... But if anyone feels like making it himself(herself) (s)he is welcome to do so even now :-) Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 6 11:33:53 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 06:33:53 -0500 Subject: A little more time to work on round 3 Message-ID: <47CFD6A1.3040801@fedoraproject.org> Hi folks, Do we want to pad another week for round 3? The beta deadline was actually pushed back to Monday so we would not be that far behind at that point. I haven't had any time to take advantage of this week because I've been in RHCE training. :( ~m From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 12:24:00 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:24:00 +0100 Subject: Parsix: Persian distro makes GNOME look good In-Reply-To: <47CEABD3.1050001@gmail.com> References: <64b14b300803030805n23d67210q4dfb04be402f4cea@mail.gmail.com> <47CC296F.2010401@gmail.com> <64b14b300803040659j3e9fcbc9tfdf539499a3376f7@mail.gmail.com> <47CD6AAC.6040905@gmail.com> <47CEA961.4020305@nicubunu.ro> <47CEABD3.1050001@gmail.com> Message-ID: <64b14b300803060424l4b049e06q32bbe8ad79de155e@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: > > (but I think the theme is > > ugly due to the color choice: blue and orange/brown). > > We're not Parsix, we can have different choices (; . Exactly. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 12:23:13 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:23:13 +0100 Subject: Parsix: Persian distro makes GNOME look good In-Reply-To: <47CD6AAC.6040905@gmail.com> References: <64b14b300803030805n23d67210q4dfb04be402f4cea@mail.gmail.com> <47CC296F.2010401@gmail.com> <64b14b300803040659j3e9fcbc9tfdf539499a3376f7@mail.gmail.com> <47CD6AAC.6040905@gmail.com> Message-ID: <64b14b300803060423r3a0a993ch6a055827e8fc119e@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Valent Turkovic wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek > > wrote: > >> Valent Turkovic wrote: > >> > If you look at this link you can see the full article. > >> > http://www.linux.com/feature/127394 > >> > > >> > and the screenshot is here: > >> > http://www.linux.com/var/uploads/Image/articles/127394-1.jpg > >> > > >> > I'm just wondering if there is a chance to make gnome panels also > >> > adhere to fedora color scheme? > >> > >> Is it default Parsix theme? > > > > I believe it is. > > > >> > I'm amazed how Parsix made the gnome theme and gnome panels fit > >> > together with their wallpaper. > >> > >> Me too :) . > >> > >> > >> > Any chance of fedora going this route? > >> > >> What about usability? > > > > What do you mean? I don't follow you. > > I mean accessibility. > > GTK theme is dark. Less contrast = less accessibility. I didn't mean to copy their theme, I meant more to make a fedora one that had good contrast and good accessibility and that also changes default beige gnome panels to something more "nicer". Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Thu Mar 6 12:24:00 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:24:00 +0100 Subject: Parsix: Persian distro makes GNOME look good In-Reply-To: <47CEABD3.1050001@gmail.com> References: <64b14b300803030805n23d67210q4dfb04be402f4cea@mail.gmail.com> <47CC296F.2010401@gmail.com> <64b14b300803040659j3e9fcbc9tfdf539499a3376f7@mail.gmail.com> <47CD6AAC.6040905@gmail.com> <47CEA961.4020305@nicubunu.ro> <47CEABD3.1050001@gmail.com> Message-ID: <64b14b300803060424l4b049e06q32bbe8ad79de155e@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: > > (but I think the theme is > > ugly due to the color choice: blue and orange/brown). > > We're not Parsix, we can have different choices (; . Exactly. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From ianweller at gmail.com Fri Mar 7 00:23:09 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 18:23:09 -0600 (CST) Subject: A little more time to work on round 3 In-Reply-To: <47CFD6A1.3040801@fedoraproject.org> References: <47CFD6A1.3040801@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Do we want to pad another week for round 3? The beta deadline was > actually pushed back to Monday so we would not be that far behind at > that point. If we still have quite a bit of work to do, that sounds cool. What all still needs to be done? -- ian From duffy at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 7 00:32:16 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:32:16 -0500 Subject: A little more time to work on round 3 In-Reply-To: References: <47CFD6A1.3040801@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47D08D10.6050509@fedoraproject.org> Ian Weller wrote: > On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Do we want to pad another week for round 3? The beta deadline was >> actually pushed back to Monday so we would not be that far behind at >> that point. > If we still have quite a bit of work to do, that sounds cool. What all > still needs to be done? -- ian A lot of work for sure. We basically need the equivalent of this document and designs, for F9: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F8Themes/Infinity/Round3Final ~m From tshimulu at gmail.com Fri Mar 7 05:59:48 2008 From: tshimulu at gmail.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 21:59:48 -0800 Subject: A little more time to work on round 3 In-Reply-To: <47CFD6A1.3040801@fedoraproject.org> References: <47CFD6A1.3040801@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 3:33 AM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi folks, > > Do we want to pad another week for round 3? The beta deadline was > actually pushed back to Monday so we would not be that far behind at > that point. > > I haven't had any time to take advantage of this week because I've been > in RHCE training. :( > > ~m > Sure. I have been used completing assignment for Graphic Design classes and have limited time to work on the draft. Next week will be the end of quarter and I will be available to resume. -- Luya Tshimbalanga http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga Fedora Project Contributor Fedora Artwork -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ianweller at gmail.com Fri Mar 7 16:55:06 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 10:55:06 -0600 (CST) Subject: round 3: waves wallpapers Message-ID: I've come up with some wallpapers for the Waves theme. These are similar to those in F8, where the colors faded in and out based on the time of day, through what I have told people is 'freaking magic'. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-14784c873e03f0add9109375305c7afb8b045876 I'm still wondering whether we should leave the sulphur in on the desktop backgrounds, and I'm also asking for everybody's opinions on the colors. -- ian From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Mar 7 17:22:46 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:22:46 +0200 Subject: round 3: waves wallpapers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47D179E6.20605@nicubunu.ro> Ian Weller wrote: > I've come up with some wallpapers for the Waves theme. These are > similar to those in F8, where the colors faded in and out based on the > time of day, through what I have told people is 'freaking magic'. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves#head-14784c873e03f0add9109375305c7afb8b045876 > > > I'm still wondering whether we should leave the sulphur in on the I think without the sulfur crystals the wallpaper would look a bit too bland. > desktop backgrounds, and I'm also asking for everybody's opinions on the > colors. I find the color difference a bit too strong from sunrise to morning and afternoon to sunset. You left out the blue flame intentionally? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From ianweller at gmail.com Fri Mar 7 17:28:37 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 11:28:37 -0600 (CST) Subject: round 3: waves wallpapers In-Reply-To: <47D179E6.20605@nicubunu.ro> References: <47D179E6.20605@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Mar 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: > I think without the sulfur crystals the wallpaper would look a bit too > bland. agreed. > > I find the color difference a bit too strong from sunrise to morning and > afternoon to sunset. should we have an intermediary then, or should the colors be more like F8's? > > You left out the blue flame intentionally? yeah. i think it makes it a bit too cluttered... -- ian From martin.sourada at gmail.com Sat Mar 8 12:37:40 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:37:40 +0100 Subject: [Nodoka] GTK2 Engine/Theme 0.7 RC1 released Message-ID: <1204979860.3420.29.camel@pc-notebook> Hi, I've just released and built in koji [0] (into rawhide) first release candidate of our default gtk engine/theme. Since beta 2 we've fixed various bugs and ATM I am aware of only one small issue with Scroll Bar rendering. Here is the list of changes: * We fixed (or, rather made a workaround for) various panel applets background [1]; * I disabled focus display for Check/Radio Buttons when they are not supposed to have focus (e.g. inside Tree View) [2] * I improved focus display in Nautilus * I improved Combo Box's Entry rendering * I fixed Check/Radio Buttons sizing and positioning [3][4] * I fixed Progress Bar's Trough rendering (the bug had effect only on Firefox AFAIK) * I fixed state detection for Cell Renderer Toggle [5] * I made some changes to Toolbar and Menu Bar rendering functions (fixes some small issues with Epiphany and Inkscape) I hope to fix the remaining issue with scrollbar rendering and any other issues that might yet appear before the F-9 final release, and I hope you'd help with providing feedback/testing. Thanks, Martin References: [0] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=42153 [1] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/ticket/23 [2] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/ticket/19 [3] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/ticket/25 [4] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/ticket/24 [5] https://fedorahosted.org/nodoka/ticket/26 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Sun Mar 9 15:59:44 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 16:59:44 +0100 Subject: Fedora Hoarding Artwork - an update? Message-ID: <64b14b300803090859q56a1d238n2dffa0fdcac05de1@mail.gmail.com> Hi, can somebody please explain what is the meaning of this page for fedora ambassadors: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Hoarding I read it, opened the attachments and I still don't get it :( The artwork looks really old - like FC3 or FC4, and the quality is pretty bad :( Can artwork team do something with this so we get some nice graphics? Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Mar 10 00:25:47 2008 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 20:25:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Hoarding Artwork - an update? In-Reply-To: <64b14b300803090859q56a1d238n2dffa0fdcac05de1@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300803090859q56a1d238n2dffa0fdcac05de1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, Valent Turkovic wrote: > can somebody please explain what is the meaning of this page for > fedora ambassadors: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Hoarding > > I read it, opened the attachments and I still don't get it :( > > The artwork looks really old - like FC3 or FC4, and the quality is > pretty bad :( Wow... almost everything on that page is either so old as to no longer be useful, or totally in violation of Fedora usage (like Tux with the Fedora logo). I nominate the page for deletion, wikipedia-style. :) --Max From stickster at gmail.com Mon Mar 10 03:01:51 2008 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:01:51 -0400 Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Hoarding Artwork - an update? In-Reply-To: References: <64b14b300803090859q56a1d238n2dffa0fdcac05de1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1205118111.27990.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 20:25 -0400, Max Spevack wrote: > On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, Valent Turkovic wrote: > > > can somebody please explain what is the meaning of this page for > > fedora ambassadors: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Hoarding > > > > I read it, opened the attachments and I still don't get it :( > > > > The artwork looks really old - like FC3 or FC4, and the quality is > > pretty bad :( > > Wow... almost everything on that page is either so old as to no longer > be useful, or totally in violation of Fedora usage (like Tux with the > Fedora logo). > > I nominate the page for deletion, wikipedia-style. :) I second that. So much so that I did it. ;-) -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 10 08:37:37 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:37:37 +0200 Subject: [Nodoka] GTK2 Engine/Theme 0.7 RC1 released In-Reply-To: <1204979860.3420.29.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1204979860.3420.29.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <47D4F351.7000803@nicubunu.ro> Martin Sourada wrote: > > I've just released and built in koji [0] (into rawhide) first release > candidate of our default gtk engine/theme. Since beta 2 we've fixed > various bugs and ATM I am aware of only one small issue with Scroll Bar > rendering. Here is the list of changes: It looks like a lot of work, cool! > I hope to fix the remaining issue with scrollbar rendering and any other > issues that might yet appear before the F-9 final release, and I hope > you'd help with providing feedback/testing. Too bad that I am still on F8... but will definitely will have a look at Beta -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From duffy at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 11 05:57:24 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:57:24 -0400 Subject: Waves Grub Artwork Message-ID: <47D61F44.3060401@fedoraproject.org> Hey folks, I came up with the attached after a couple days' work. Let me know what you think! I attached the artwork as well as the xpm.gz. Copy it over to /boot/grub and rename it splash.xpm.gz (back up yer old one if you want) and reboot to check it out in action. One thing to note, I did this by indexing the inkscape-exported full-color artwork in the gimp, and indexing down to 14 colors. That was it. I remember in the past having to add black and white to colormap slots 0 and 1 respectively, but grub seemed to not like that this time. If you just use the 14 color pixmap, grub seems to deal with it just fine. ~m -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: grub.xpm.gz Type: application/x-gzip Size: 47174 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: grubpreview_indexed.png Type: image/png Size: 42022 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I remember in the past having to add black and white to > colormap slots 0 and 1 respectively, but grub seemed to not like that > this time. If you just use the 14 color pixmap, grub seems to deal > with it just fine. > > ~m > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I remember in the past having to add black and white to colormap > slots 0 and 1 respectively, but grub seemed to not like that this time. > If you just use the 14 color pixmap, grub seems to deal with it just fine. Nice try :) . -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: To jest cz??? wiadomo?ci podpisana cyfrowo URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Mar 11 09:17:48 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:17:48 +0200 Subject: Waves Grub Artwork In-Reply-To: <47D61F44.3060401@fedoraproject.org> References: <47D61F44.3060401@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47D64E3C.3020401@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > I came up with the attached after a couple days' work. Let me know what > you think! I attached the artwork as well as the xpm.gz. Copy it over to > /boot/grub and rename it splash.xpm.gz (back up yer old one if you want) > and reboot to check it out in action. You wanted a less blue, grayish background. This splash is you moving from gray to more blue or is a blue grub splash and a gray desktop wallpaper. > One thing to note, I did this by indexing the inkscape-exported > full-color artwork in the gimp, and indexing down to 14 colors. That was > it. I remember in the past having to add black and white to colormap > slots 0 and 1 respectively, but grub seemed to not like that this time. > If you just use the 14 color pixmap, grub seems to deal with it just fine. Looking at the image I felt the urge to play with it :p Namely to try a version where the logo and the waves are not centered, however I have a problem: dithering. Which dithering method have you used? Everything I try with GIMP does not match your result, even starting from your original SVG (I get some ugly artifacts which I could clean manually, but I don't think you did so). So what dithering method have you used? I recently changed my monitor and went from 4:3 to widescreen. I know we have here some hard limitation with the current version of GRUB and the splash *must* be 640x480 (GRUB 2, which may be the solution, is still away from us) *but* the logo looks ugly, it is deformed (we can't avoid this, on that resolution on a widescreen the pixels are not square). I think we can try a workaround: just not use the bubble logo, maybe put just a sulfur crystal and leave it as that, unbranded (hoping the deformation on the crystal is less noticeable). Or is the corner case of GRUB on widescreen display shown only for a couple of seconds when nobody is looking anyway too narrow and we can live with a deformed logo? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 11:30:28 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:30:28 +0100 Subject: howto print posters? Message-ID: <64b14b300803110430x5054839fw97d5390469d5af88@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I would like to print these posters: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral But I the print shop doesn't support svg file format. I tried printing to PDF from Inkscape but get terrible results :( I would like to sent them the print file in vector format if possible, is there any other option beside exporting posters as bitmaps? Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From nisses.mail at home.se Tue Mar 11 12:02:33 2008 From: nisses.mail at home.se (Andreas Nilsson) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:02:33 +0100 Subject: howto print posters? In-Reply-To: <64b14b300803110430x5054839fw97d5390469d5af88@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300803110430x5054839fw97d5390469d5af88@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47D674D9.906@home.se> Valent Turkovic wrote: > Hi, > I would like to print these posters: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral > > But I the print shop doesn't support svg file format. I tried printing > to PDF from Inkscape but get terrible results :( > I would like to sent them the print file in vector format if possible, > is there any other option beside exporting posters as bitmaps? > > Cheers, > Valent. > Hi Valent! Did you try Inkscape from trunk? pdf support is a bit better than in previous versions. (you can set dpi etc.) Another thing you can try is to import the svg's (or bitmaps in worst case) into scribus and generate a pdf from there, although I'm not sure how good the svg support is in the stable version, so you might need to compile that one from source as well. The scribus output will give you a document in cmyk, unlike Inkscape were you'll just get rgb (even though the printer can just convert it for you in most cases). Very nice posters, btw! - Andreas From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Mar 11 12:04:00 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:04:00 +0200 Subject: howto print posters? In-Reply-To: <64b14b300803110430x5054839fw97d5390469d5af88@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300803110430x5054839fw97d5390469d5af88@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47D67530.506@nicubunu.ro> Valent Turkovic wrote: > Hi, > I would like to print these posters: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral > > But I the print shop doesn't support svg file format. I tried printing > to PDF from Inkscape but get terrible results :( > I would like to sent them the print file in vector format if possible, > is there any other option beside exporting posters as bitmaps? This is a question I am interested also to hear an answer. I found the print people usually very hard to work with, refusing to hear that Corel Draw or Adobe Illustrator can open SVG and accepting only a small selection of file types (I canceled a print request for an unrelated poster last week on Friday). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From duffy at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 11 12:13:16 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:13:16 -0400 Subject: Waves Grub Artwork In-Reply-To: <1205215655.2698.0.camel@geeko> References: <47D61F44.3060401@fedoraproject.org> <1205215655.2698.0.camel@geeko> Message-ID: <47D6775C.20806@fedoraproject.org> Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Nice try :) . What do you mean try? If you having nothing helpful to say, you are better off saying nothing! ~m From frankly3d at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 12:21:36 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:21:36 +0000 Subject: Newbie Intro Message-ID: <1205238096.8565.9.camel@frank-01> Hi, Apologies for any bandwidth concerns. New to list, haven't don't the other secure bits yet, ssh. have an unsigned gpg key as of yesterday. Haven't an art degree, just ncva level 2 (Ireland), in art (animation) Newish to linux, love fedora (would love an art spin) like the artwork I've seen so far. My still to be worked on site is here: http://www.frankly3d.com Hopefully I will be up to speed, with linux art by the time maybe F10-11 comes about. Frank From duffy at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 11 12:22:29 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:22:29 -0400 Subject: Waves Grub Artwork In-Reply-To: <47D64E3C.3020401@nicubunu.ro> References: <47D61F44.3060401@fedoraproject.org> <47D64E3C.3020401@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47D67985.60606@fedoraproject.org> Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> I came up with the attached after a couple days' work. Let me know >> what you think! I attached the artwork as well as the xpm.gz. Copy it >> over to /boot/grub and rename it splash.xpm.gz (back up yer old one if >> you want) and reboot to check it out in action. > > You wanted a less blue, grayish background. This splash is you moving > from gray to more blue or is a blue grub splash and a gray desktop > wallpaper. Yeah. :( Let me explain why - we're kind of going with a slightly blue-tinted water color in the latest wallpapers. So I tried to match that. However, the more grey + blue I have, the worse the color indexing comes out, so after much trial and error I kept getting closer and closer and ended up with a very Fedora 3-esque blue bcakground - it's closer to the logo colors so it limits the color palette making the index image a bit smoother. :( What do you recommend? > >> One thing to note, I did this by indexing the inkscape-exported >> full-color artwork in the gimp, and indexing down to 14 colors. That >> was it. I remember in the past having to add black and white to >> colormap slots 0 and 1 respectively, but grub seemed to not like that >> this time. If you just use the 14 color pixmap, grub seems to deal >> with it just fine. > > Looking at the image I felt the urge to play with it :p Namely to try a > version where the logo and the waves are not centered, however I have a > problem: dithering. Which dithering method have you used? I used Floyd-Steinberg (reduced color bleeding). I had to do a little bit of manual tweaking in the center around the logo - maybe 20 pixels replaced where way too bright pixels had shown up. I also did the 'TM' letters manually so they'd be crisp and readabe. > Everything I try with GIMP does not match your result, even starting > from your original SVG (I get some ugly artifacts which I could clean > manually, but I don't think you did so). So what dithering method have > you used? Yep, I did!! I cheated :) > > I recently changed my monitor and went from 4:3 to widescreen. I know we > have here some hard limitation with the current version of GRUB and the > splash *must* be 640x480 (GRUB 2, which may be the solution, is still > away from us) *but* the logo looks ugly, it is deformed (we can't avoid > this, on that resolution on a widescreen the pixels are not square). > I think we can try a workaround: just not use the bubble logo, maybe put > just a sulfur crystal and leave it as that, unbranded (hoping the > deformation on the crystal is less noticeable). > Or is the corner case of GRUB on widescreen display shown only for a > couple of seconds when nobody is looking anyway too narrow and we can > live with a deformed logo? You know, that is why I went with the 'fedora' logotype only in the F8 artwork and not the Fedora infinity logo. I did that one on my widescreen monitor. I did this one on my normal 1024x768 monitor. ;) It definitely seems a good idea to try it with just the sulphur crystal. Grub should always say 'Fedora' in the kernel lines text above anyway so it should be clear that this is Fedora. ~m From duffy at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 11 12:22:50 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:22:50 -0400 Subject: Waves Grub Artwork In-Reply-To: <47D62277.9010706@gmail.com> References: <47D61F44.3060401@fedoraproject.org> <47D62277.9010706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47D6799A.40501@fedoraproject.org> Michael Beckwith wrote: > Ooh, I'm liking this. Perhaps some lighter colors(maybe I'll try that > part tomorrow), and this could be in business. Awesome, would love to see what you come up with. ~m From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 12:23:45 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:23:45 +0100 Subject: Waves Grub Artwork In-Reply-To: <47D61F44.3060401@fedoraproject.org> References: <47D61F44.3060401@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47D679D1.3050600@gmail.com> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hey folks, > > I came up with the attached after a couple days' work. Let me know what > you think! I attached the artwork as well as the xpm.gz. Copy it over to > /boot/grub and rename it splash.xpm.gz (back up yer old one if you want) > and reboot to check it out in action. > > One thing to note, I did this by indexing the inkscape-exported > full-color artwork in the gimp, and indexing down to 14 colors. That was > it. I remember in the past having to add black and white to colormap > slots 0 and 1 respectively, but grub seemed to not like that this time. > If you just use the 14 color pixmap, grub seems to deal with it just fine. > > ~m I like the design - but colors are a bit dark. Is fedora in some murky waters? :) Valent. From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Mar 11 12:58:18 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:58:18 +0200 Subject: Newbie Intro In-Reply-To: <1205238096.8565.9.camel@frank-01> References: <1205238096.8565.9.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47D681EA.8020804@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > Hi, Hi Frank, > Apologies for any bandwidth concerns. No problem > New to list, > haven't don't the other secure bits yet, ssh. > have an unsigned gpg key as of yesterday. Welcome! > Haven't an art degree, just ncva level 2 (Ireland), in art (animation) Then you have better degrees than me :D The most important is what one can do, so don't worry. > Newish to linux, love fedora (would love an art spin) > like the artwork I've seen so far. I understand you know we have somewhere in a far to-do list the Art Studio spin. > My still to be worked on site is here: > http://www.frankly3d.com Those images are made with Blender or are you using another 3D modeling application? > Hopefully I will be up to speed, > with linux art by the time maybe F10-11 comes about. Right now we approach the final stage of F9 theming, will have to polish some desktop graphics, create some website graphics and some print materials. There is also the continual icon development stuff, GTK+ stuff and a lot of smaller tasks [1], fell free to get your feet wet with any of those. [1] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From frankly3d at gmail.com Tue Mar 11 13:26:13 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:26:13 +0000 Subject: Newbie Intro In-Reply-To: <47D681EA.8020804@nicubunu.ro> References: <1205238096.8565.9.camel@frank-01> <47D681EA.8020804@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1205241973.9450.1.camel@frank-01> On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 14:58 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > My still to be worked on site is here: > > http://www.frankly3d.com > > Those images are made with Blender or are you using another 3D modeling > application? > They were done at the time with Bryce \ Poser (Landscapes \ Figures). Frank From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Mar 11 13:45:38 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:45:38 +0200 Subject: Newbie Intro In-Reply-To: <1205241973.9450.1.camel@frank-01> References: <1205238096.8565.9.camel@frank-01> <47D681EA.8020804@nicubunu.ro> <1205241973.9450.1.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47D68D02.20507@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 14:58 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: >>> My still to be worked on site is here: >>> http://www.frankly3d.com >> Those images are made with Blender or are you using another 3D modeling >> application? >> > > They were done at the time with Bryce \ Poser (Landscapes \ Figures). This is not a hard written rule, but we try as much as possible to "eat our own dog food", that is, to theme Feodora using tools available in Fedora. And one lesson we learned the hard way in the past (with Bluecurve icons) is that for the source files of our artwork, availability in file formats which can be opened by applications in our distro is very important. So expect a very heavy bias here for FOSS tools and applications. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Mar 11 13:37:32 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:37:32 +0200 Subject: Waves Grub Artwork In-Reply-To: <47D67985.60606@fedoraproject.org> References: <47D61F44.3060401@fedoraproject.org> <47D64E3C.3020401@nicubunu.ro> <47D67985.60606@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47D68B1C.50203@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: >> I think we can try a workaround: just not use the bubble logo, maybe >> put just a sulfur crystal and leave it as that, unbranded (hoping the >> deformation on the crystal is less noticeable). >> Or is the corner case of GRUB on widescreen display shown only for a >> couple of seconds when nobody is looking anyway too narrow and we can >> live with a deformed logo? > > You know, that is why I went with the 'fedora' logotype only in the F8 > artwork and not the Fedora infinity logo. I did that one on my > widescreen monitor. I did this one on my normal 1024x768 monitor. ;) > > It definitely seems a good idea to try it with just the sulphur crystal. > Grub should always say 'Fedora' in the kernel lines text above anyway so > it should be clear that this is Fedora. I tried something: non-centered burning sulfur (SVG, PNG preview and splash.xpm.gz). I am not very happy with dithering, even after I heavily edited the results but the aspect ratio problem does not look that bad to me with it. Another try was without the flame, as it was a source of inconvenient light pixels, it needed a lot less tweaking after dithering. 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Hope this help. --------------------- Hola...yo trabajo con este tipo de cosas... y esto es lo que "tengo" que hacer: Paso 1: Si vas a enviar esto a una compa?ia para que te lo impriman primero has el *.svg completo y exportalo sobre los 300DPI(PPP) en formato *.png Paso 2: Toma ese *.png y abrelo con GIMP... guardalo como *.tif o como *.psd Paso 3: Envialo a la imprenta Espero esto ayude Salutex! 2008/3/12, Nicu Buculei : > > Valent Turkovic wrote: > > Hi, > > I would like to print these posters: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MarketingCollateral > > > > But I the print shop doesn't support svg file format. I tried printing > > to PDF from Inkscape but get terrible results :( > > I would like to sent them the print file in vector format if possible, > > is there any other option beside exporting posters as bitmaps? > > > This is a question I am interested also to hear an answer. I found the > print people usually very hard to work with, refusing to hear that Corel > Draw or Adobe Illustrator can open SVG and accepting only a small > selection of file types (I canceled a print request for an unrelated > poster last week on Friday). > > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com > Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ > Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Frank From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 12 03:17:18 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:17:18 -0400 Subject: Waves Grub Artwork In-Reply-To: <47D68B1C.50203@nicubunu.ro> References: <47D61F44.3060401@fedoraproject.org> <47D64E3C.3020401@nicubunu.ro> <47D67985.60606@fedoraproject.org> <47D68B1C.50203@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47D74B3E.8030607@fedoraproject.org> Hey Nicu, Nicu Buculei wrote: > I tried something: non-centered burning sulfur (SVG, PNG preview and > splash.xpm.gz). I am not very happy with dithering, even after I heavily > edited the results but the aspect ratio problem does not look that bad > to me with it. > > Another try was without the flame, as it was a source of inconvenient > light pixels, it needed a lot less tweaking after dithering. I played around with your design to try to get some better results with the indexing. 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Fortunately your last version preserves the crystal faces and is much better. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 12 13:54:23 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:54:23 -0400 Subject: Waves Grub Artwork In-Reply-To: <47D7D1A9.70107@nicubunu.ro> References: <47D61F44.3060401@fedoraproject.org> <47D64E3C.3020401@nicubunu.ro> <47D67985.60606@fedoraproject.org> <47D68B1C.50203@nicubunu.ro> <47D74B3E.8030607@fedoraproject.org> <47D7D1A9.70107@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47D7E08F.5050503@fedoraproject.org> Hey Nicu! Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> >> I'll take a try at the flame, but it's gonna be tough :) > > Ha-ha-ha! > > I blogged about those images and got a comment about how the crystals > look like a pile of dog excrements and with flames like a steaming one. > And looking at *my* creations, it is not that far off... > > Fortunately your last version preserves the crystal faces and is much > better. Heheh flaming dog crap......... whoopsie :) I have a couple ideas: - Let's change up the shape of the sulphur crystals so they are taller and maybe more in a diamond configuration than the lumpy ("dog crap") configuration they are in now so hopefully no analogies could be made at least visually. :) The individual crystal faces could be given more angular, strong shapes as well such that no dog could crap out such a shape :) - Make the overall crystal shape a bit taller, more square at least than its current short and horizontally wide shape, so when we go from the standard aspect ratio to widescreen, the stretching is less noticeable. The screen ratio is definitely a challenge here. In f8 it worked great because they were just abstract lines so stretching was only noticeable in the logotype and even then not much. ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Mar 12 14:01:07 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:01:07 +0200 Subject: Waves Grub Artwork In-Reply-To: <47D7E08F.5050503@fedoraproject.org> References: <47D61F44.3060401@fedoraproject.org> <47D64E3C.3020401@nicubunu.ro> <47D67985.60606@fedoraproject.org> <47D68B1C.50203@nicubunu.ro> <47D74B3E.8030607@fedoraproject.org> <47D7D1A9.70107@nicubunu.ro> <47D7E08F.5050503@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47D7E223.5090103@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Heheh flaming dog crap......... whoopsie :) > > I have a couple ideas: And in the meantime I tried another idea, was just going to write about it... In fact is not a new idea, I intended to try something about it later, when we get to CD/DVD labels: much simplified, no colors, only outlines. Attached. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: crystal_outline.svg Type: image/svg+xml Size: 32538 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: crystal_outline.png Type: image/png Size: 36417 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: splash.xpm.gz Type: application/x-tar Size: 41190 bytes Desc: not available URL: From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 15:17:58 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:17:58 +0100 Subject: new icons? Message-ID: <64b14b300803120817l337b871fse86e289022baf1af@mail.gmail.com> http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/old_icons.png Hi, I'm looking at gnome menu icons in current rawhide and they look really out of place. If I remember correctly is was agreed upon that there will be an update of this icons with some other. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Keep doing great work you do! Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Mar 12 15:32:52 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:32:52 +0200 Subject: new icons? In-Reply-To: <64b14b300803120817l337b871fse86e289022baf1af@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300803120817l337b871fse86e289022baf1af@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47D7F7A4.3050104@nicubunu.ro> Valent Turkovic wrote: > http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/old_icons.png > > Hi, > I'm looking at gnome menu icons in current rawhide and they look > really out of place. If I remember correctly is was agreed upon that > there will be an update of this icons with some other. Please correct > me if I'm wrong. The icons in your screenshot look exactly the same as the icons in F8. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nisses.mail at home.se Wed Mar 12 15:53:48 2008 From: nisses.mail at home.se (Andreas Nilsson) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:53:48 +0100 Subject: new icons? In-Reply-To: <64b14b300803120817l337b871fse86e289022baf1af@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300803120817l337b871fse86e289022baf1af@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47D7FC8C.2090106@home.se> Valent Turkovic wrote: > http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/old_icons.png > > Hi, > I'm looking at gnome menu icons in current rawhide and they look > really out of place. If I remember correctly is was agreed upon that > there will be an update of this icons with some other. Please correct > me if I'm wrong. > > Keep doing great work you do! > > Valent. > > Hi Valent! In what way do they look out of place? You can file potential bugs against the gnome-icon-theme module in GNOME bugzilla: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/simple-bug-guide.cgi?product=gnome-icon-theme - Andreas From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 12 16:46:59 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:46:59 -0400 Subject: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System Message-ID: <47D80903.3060009@fedoraproject.org> Hi folks, Do you think it would be fair to require folks applying for art accounts to post a self-introduction to the list? How about complete at least one minor design task? (EG hackergotchi or banner design off the design queue?) We might want to go through the current accounts, contact the inactive account owners to see if they still intend to get involved in the group, and if we don't hear back from them in x time or if they indicate they are not interested, remove their accounts from the group. We've been getting a lot of account requests lately and while I do know a few folks who are working on things, there are a lot of names that I don't recognize and I haven't seen active on the list or working on projects that we are aware of at least. Adding someone to the art group is a big deal because it gives them the right to vote in Fedora elections I think among other things. The marketing group had proposed an introduction requirement to add people to the group and I was thinking it might be good for us to have a better policy as well. What do you think? ~m From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 16:53:54 2008 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:53:54 -0500 Subject: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System In-Reply-To: <47D80903.3060009@fedoraproject.org> References: <47D80903.3060009@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47D80AA2.50205@gmail.com> I'll second the mandatory self-introduction idea. Requiring a minor task like a hackergotchi or something from the design queue will end up potentially running those areas dry and then someone who wants to get involved has to wait for something new to show up. Last I saw, hackergotchi designing is already covered pretty fast. M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi folks, > > Do you think it would be fair to require folks applying for art > accounts to post a self-introduction to the list? How about complete > at least one minor design task? (EG hackergotchi or banner design off > the design queue?) > > We might want to go through the current accounts, contact the inactive > account owners to see if they still intend to get involved in the > group, and if we don't hear back from them in x time or if they > indicate they are not interested, remove their accounts from the group. > > We've been getting a lot of account requests lately and while I do > know a few folks who are working on things, there are a lot of names > that I don't recognize and I haven't seen active on the list or > working on projects that we are aware of at least. Adding someone to > the art group is a big deal because it gives them the right to vote in > Fedora elections I think among other things. The marketing group had > proposed an introduction requirement to add people to the group and I > was thinking it might be good for us to have a better policy as well. > > What do you think? > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From frankly3d at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 17:04:37 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:04:37 +0000 Subject: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System In-Reply-To: <47D80903.3060009@fedoraproject.org> References: <47D80903.3060009@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1205341477.10915.7.camel@frank-01> On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 12:46 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi folks, > > Do you think it would be fair to require folks applying for art accounts > to post a self-introduction to the list? Newbie here, list only at the moment. If the list needs more info just holler. > How about complete at least one > minor design task? (EG hackergotchi or banner design off the design queue?) At the moment, would fail the test, as am not up the speed with the F8 graphics apps, was reared in the other "county", the closed one. > We might want to go through the current accounts, contact the inactive > account owners to see if they still intend to get involved in the group, > and if we don't hear back from them in x time or if they indicate they > are not interested, remove their accounts from the group. Havn't got to that part, yet and will stick to the "list" (if allowed) until up to foss speed Apologies for not adding pgp key, still figuring it out. Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If the well runs dry, I'm sure we can find a way to fill it back up with small tasks to do. -jef From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 17:19:33 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:19:33 -0800 Subject: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System In-Reply-To: <1205341477.10915.7.camel@frank-01> References: <47D80903.3060009@fedoraproject.org> <1205341477.10915.7.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <604aa7910803121019u48e703ecqb181188166b54e7f@mail.gmail.com> 2008/3/12 Frank Murphy : > At the moment, would fail the test, as am not up the speed with the F8 > graphics apps, was reared in the other "county", the closed one. I think that's exactly the point. Using a minor design task as a way to mentor a new person in how to do things. Once you make it through the task you get rewarded with art group membership and the infrastructure access that comes with it. If you don't have the skills necessary, then its a training opportunity. Its a parallel with how our packaging contributor access works. You don't get cvs write access until you've gone through a package submission and review process to make sure you are doing things the right way. M?ir?n would need to flush out the idea a little more and create a typical workflow for joining. Here's my suggested strawman. 0) A recruit would need to affirmatively 'sign-out' a task with a deadline for completion. So noone else is working on it. 1) Possibly assign an Art team mentor to them. 2) And then the recruit communicate on the list for help doing things and showing drafts for feedback. If there is a mentor, the mentor helps them with things like getting use to the new toolset. But its not meant to be a hand-holding role. 3) If the deadline comes and the don't have a finished item, the art team (or an assigned mentor) decides to extend the deadline or not based on the person's progress. 4) if the deadline is extended repeat 2 and 3 until some maximum time. You need a maximum time so that this one item doesn't get stuck in the que forever. 5) if the maximum time for the age of the item is reached then the sponsor needs to do the task. 6) if the deadline isn't extended the item goes back at the head of the que. -jef From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Mar 12 17:19:48 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:19:48 +0200 Subject: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System In-Reply-To: <47D80903.3060009@fedoraproject.org> References: <47D80903.3060009@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47D810B4.9070206@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Do you think it would be fair to require folks applying for art accounts > to post a self-introduction to the list? How about complete at least one > minor design task? (EG hackergotchi or banner design off the design queue?) And this would help us clearing a bit the DesignService queue at the same time, win-win :D > We might want to go through the current accounts, contact the inactive > account owners to see if they still intend to get involved in the group, > and if we don't hear back from them in x time or if they indicate they > are not interested, remove their accounts from the group. There are some users *we know* will not come back and contribute to Fedora... > We've been getting a lot of account requests lately and while I do know > a few folks who are working on things, there are a lot of names that I > don't recognize and I haven't seen active on the list or working on > projects that we are aware of at least. Adding someone to the art group For a large number of people in the group I don't remember seeing *a single* post on this list. > is a big deal because it gives them the right to vote in Fedora > elections I think among other things. The marketing group had proposed > an introduction requirement to add people to the group and I was > thinking it might be good for us to have a better policy as well. Considering the power allowed, it make sense to require some kind of introduction and maybe a *small* task (which may be formal: the person has contributed in the past to an external Fedora oriented site, has contributed to another Fedora project sounds like acceptable credentials to me). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Mar 12 17:29:18 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:29:18 +0200 Subject: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System In-Reply-To: <1205341477.10915.7.camel@frank-01> References: <47D80903.3060009@fedoraproject.org> <1205341477.10915.7.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47D812EE.8010202@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 12:46 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> How about complete at least one >> minor design task? (EG hackergotchi or banner design off the design queue?) > > At the moment, would fail the test, as am not up the speed with the F8 > graphics apps, was reared in the other "county", the closed one. This is about being included in the Art group of the Account System, not about contributing to the mailing list, asking question, giving feedback and such. Is about granting some rights to known contributors. Is OK to request membership when you consider yourself ready. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Mar 12 17:33:51 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:33:51 +0200 Subject: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System In-Reply-To: <604aa7910803121019u48e703ecqb181188166b54e7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <47D80903.3060009@fedoraproject.org> <1205341477.10915.7.camel@frank-01> <604aa7910803121019u48e703ecqb181188166b54e7f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47D813FF.5080302@nicubunu.ro> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > M?ir?n would need to flush out the idea a little more and create a > typical workflow for joining. > Here's my suggested strawman. > > 0) A recruit would need to affirmatively 'sign-out' a task with a > deadline for completion. > So noone else is working on it. I think the workflow should be much simpler... creating a hackergotchi was used as an example (but we have similarly "complex" tasks open): for someone who know his way with GIMP it is a 10 minutes task at most... say 1 hour for a newbie. A deadline with extension and progress monitoring looks like overkill here. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From jspaleta at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 18:40:55 2008 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:40:55 -0800 Subject: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System In-Reply-To: <47D813FF.5080302@nicubunu.ro> References: <47D80903.3060009@fedoraproject.org> <1205341477.10915.7.camel@frank-01> <604aa7910803121019u48e703ecqb181188166b54e7f@mail.gmail.com> <47D813FF.5080302@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <604aa7910803121140k2f87dc8dyeb8bb47519626930@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > I think the workflow should be much simpler... creating a hackergotchi I was thinking more along the lines of banners. Since I sort of expect hackergotchi opportunities to run dry quickly. Unless of course, they are making their own hackergotchi..... -jef From ianweller at gmail.com Wed Mar 12 22:48:38 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:48:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System In-Reply-To: <47D813FF.5080302@nicubunu.ro> References: <47D80903.3060009@fedoraproject.org> <1205341477.10915.7.camel@frank-01> <604aa7910803121019u48e703ecqb181188166b54e7f@mail.gmail.com> <47D813FF.5080302@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Jeff Spaleta wrote: >> >> M?ir?n would need to flush out the idea a little more and create a >> typical workflow for joining. >> Here's my suggested strawman. >> >> 0) A recruit would need to affirmatively 'sign-out' a task with a >> deadline for completion. >> So noone else is working on it. > > I think the workflow should be much simpler... creating a hackergotchi > was used as an example (but we have similarly "complex" tasks open): for > someone who know his way with GIMP it is a 10 minutes task at most... > say 1 hour for a newbie. A deadline with extension and progress > monitoring looks like overkill here. On the contrary, if we start receiving a massive influx of new contributors, we'd need some sort of infrastructure to keep things relatively sane. I think some sort of webapp should be written up instead of using a wiki page. The wiki page seems disorganized, and I had to look for it at first, since I never even knew it existed. :D It's long -- and I plan to get a few of those things done... -- ian From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 13 03:08:57 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:08:57 -0400 Subject: Waves RHGB design Message-ID: <47D89AC9.4030207@fedoraproject.org> Hi folks, See attached, what do you think? It borrows heavily from the basic f8 layout. 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I think it would kinda look out of place without the sulphur somewhere else on the screen too, and it doesn't necessarily fit anywhere, so I'm not really for it. -- ian From ianweller at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 04:18:36 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:18:36 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Waves Firstboot Design In-Reply-To: <47D8A68A.8070206@fedoraproject.org> References: <47D8A68A.8070206@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Here's my first attempt at the firstboot banner for Waves. What do you > think? Oh wow, I really like the Fedora logo with the sulphur around it. Maybe it could be used for other things where space is constrained... ;) -- ian From jonstanley at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 04:39:53 2008 From: jonstanley at gmail.com (Jon Stanley) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:39:53 -0400 Subject: Waves Firstboot Design In-Reply-To: References: <47D8A68A.8070206@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: 2008/3/13 Ian Weller : > Oh wow, I really like the Fedora logo with the sulphur around it. Maybe > it could be used for other things where space is constrained... ;) +1. The desk around the computer looks too cluttered and busy though, IMHO, but what do I know, I'm no artist!. :) Great work! From ianweller at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 04:41:20 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:41:20 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Waves Firstboot Design In-Reply-To: <47D8A68A.8070206@fedoraproject.org> References: <47D8A68A.8070206@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Here's my first attempt at the firstboot banner for Waves. What do you > think? Actually, looking at it a little bit closer, there appears to be a seam in the waves right under the Fedora logo/sulphur. The waves should probably be more continuous -- is that done intentionally? -- ian From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 04:43:19 2008 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:43:19 -0500 Subject: Waves Firstboot Design In-Reply-To: References: <47D8A68A.8070206@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47D8B0E7.2020907@gmail.com> Jon Stanley wrote: > 2008/3/13 Ian Weller : > > >> Oh wow, I really like the Fedora logo with the sulphur around it. Maybe >> it could be used for other things where space is constrained... ;) >> > > +1. The desk around the computer looks too cluttered and busy though, > IMHO, but what do I know, I'm no artist!. :) > > Great work! > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > I think the desk clutter is leftover from previous implementations -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ianweller at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 04:47:16 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:47:16 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Waves Firstboot Design In-Reply-To: <47D8B0E7.2020907@gmail.com> References: <47D8A68A.8070206@fedoraproject.org> <47D8B0E7.2020907@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, Michael Beckwith wrote: > Jon Stanley wrote: >> +1. The desk around the computer looks too cluttered and busy though, >> IMHO, but what do I know, I'm no artist!. :) > I think the desk clutter is leftover from previous implementations It is. I personally find no reason that it should be drastically changed, since it's really quite good, and isn't specific to any version. -- ian From jjmasek at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 05:05:47 2008 From: jjmasek at gmail.com (Jiri Jakub Masek) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:05:47 +0100 Subject: Waves RHGB design In-Reply-To: <47D89AC9.4030207@fedoraproject.org> References: <47D89AC9.4030207@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Hi, the Fedora logo could be smaller, I guess about 80% of actual size, try it and you 'll see... JJM 2008/3/13, M?ir?n Duffy : > > Hi folks, > > See attached, what do you think? It borrows heavily from the basic f8 > layout. > > One thing I thought might be cool is if we did a custom gtkrc just for > rhgb so that the progress bar here would be the same color yellow as the > sulphur? > > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > -- I'm still learning English... Ji?? Jakub Ma?ek - Mr Jiri Jakub Masek Moravia, Czech Republic, European Union -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ianweller at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 05:38:10 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:38:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: sulphuric waves backgrounds Message-ID: Hey all, I'm working on the second revision for the desktop backgrounds. I've got the following basic ideas implemented: - Gradients for different times of day basically taken from F8 wallpapers, in turn keeping the transition between each a lot less dramatic - Having the sulphur burning at sunset and at night, but not during the day or sunrise (it doesn't seem to fit) - Using Martin's basic wallpaper template, except slightly blurring and transparenting the bottom "ocean" to make the sky flow more in tune with the waves The PNGs and SVGs are available at [1]. Please let me know what you think :) -- ian [1] http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/art/sulphuric-waves/ From frankly3d at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 06:46:21 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:46:21 +0000 Subject: Waves Firstboot Design In-Reply-To: References: <47D8A68A.8070206@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1205390782.1047.8.camel@frank-01> On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 23:41 -0500, Ian Weller wrote: > On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Here's my first attempt at the firstboot banner for Waves. What do you > > think? > Actually, looking at it a little bit closer, there appears to be a seam > in the waves right under the Fedora logo/sulphur. The waves should > probably be more continuous -- is that done intentionally? -- ian Most would not catch it, but the "sulpher-berg", does draw the eye down. Maybe blend the very dark bits of the horizon in. Frank From martin.sourada at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 06:46:35 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:46:35 +0100 Subject: sulphuric waves backgrounds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1205390795.6784.4.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 00:38 -0500, Ian Weller wrote: > Hey all, I'm working on the second revision for the desktop backgrounds. > I've got the following basic ideas implemented: > - Gradients for different times of day basically taken from F8 wallpapers, > in turn keeping the transition between each a lot less dramatic > - Having the sulphur burning at sunset and at night, but not during the > day or sunrise (it doesn't seem to fit) > - Using Martin's basic wallpaper template, except slightly blurring and > transparenting the bottom "ocean" to make the sky flow more in tune with > the waves > > The PNGs and SVGs are available at [1]. Please let me know what you think > :) -- ian > > [1] http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/art/sulphuric-waves/ > Hi, great work! No critics from me. What about uploading to wiki, is there any special reason why you uploaded it to fedorapeople instead? If it's because the clutter of the wiki page I suggest to make a "Final" sub-page and put the designs there (together with other things like GRUB, rhgb, ...). Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 13 06:59:51 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:59:51 +0200 Subject: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System In-Reply-To: References: <47D80903.3060009@fedoraproject.org> <1205341477.10915.7.camel@frank-01> <604aa7910803121019u48e703ecqb181188166b54e7f@mail.gmail.com> <47D813FF.5080302@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47D8D0E7.6000200@nicubunu.ro> Ian Weller wrote: > On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> I think the workflow should be much simpler... creating a hackergotchi >> was used as an example (but we have similarly "complex" tasks open): >> for someone who know his way with GIMP it is a 10 minutes task at >> most... say 1 hour for a newbie. A deadline with extension and >> progress monitoring looks like overkill here. > On the contrary, if we start receiving a massive influx of new > contributors, we'd need some sort of infrastructure to keep things > relatively sane. > > I think some sort of webapp should be written up instead of using a wiki Do not count on a webapp, nobody is going to write it... we talked and talked a lot about a webapp to aggregate or host and share our works and show them in a nice way but were not able to come with a solution. > page. The wiki page seems disorganized, and I had to look for it at > first, since I never even knew it existed. :D It's long -- and I plan > to get a few of those things done... Maybe such a task for proving a possible contributor could be to put the wiki page in good order? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From frankly3d at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 07:18:51 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:18:51 +0000 Subject: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System In-Reply-To: <47D8D0E7.6000200@nicubunu.ro> References: <47D80903.3060009@fedoraproject.org> <1205341477.10915.7.camel@frank-01> <604aa7910803121019u48e703ecqb181188166b54e7f@mail.gmail.com> <47D813FF.5080302@nicubunu.ro> <47D8D0E7.6000200@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1205392731.1837.1.camel@frank-01> On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 08:59 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Do not count on a webapp, nobody is going to write it... we talked and > talked a lot about a webapp to aggregate or host and share our works and > show them in a nice way but were not able to come with a solution. > Check out gallery2, included in Fedora repo(s) (possibly a canidate for art-spin) Frank From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 13 07:29:42 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:29:42 +0200 Subject: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System In-Reply-To: <1205392731.1837.1.camel@frank-01> References: <47D80903.3060009@fedoraproject.org> <1205341477.10915.7.camel@frank-01> <604aa7910803121019u48e703ecqb181188166b54e7f@mail.gmail.com> <47D813FF.5080302@nicubunu.ro> <47D8D0E7.6000200@nicubunu.ro> <1205392731.1837.1.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47D8D7E6.6010207@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 08:59 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> Do not count on a webapp, nobody is going to write it... we talked and >> talked a lot about a webapp to aggregate or host and share our works and >> show them in a nice way but were not able to come with a solution. >> > > Check out gallery2, included in Fedora repo(s) > (possibly a canidate for art-spin) That was one of the options considered - read more at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Communication (what is not written there is that one of the drawbacks on Gallery2 is its use of php, which in not favored by the Fedora infrastructure) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 13 08:01:15 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:01:15 +0200 Subject: sulphuric waves backgrounds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47D8DF4B.2080005@nicubunu.ro> Ian Weller wrote: > Hey all, I'm working on the second revision for the desktop backgrounds. > I've got the following basic ideas implemented: > - Gradients for different times of day basically taken from F8 wallpapers, > in turn keeping the transition between each a lot less dramatic > - Having the sulphur burning at sunset and at night, but not during the > day or sunrise (it doesn't seem to fit) I would keep them burning all day long for consistency. > - Using Martin's basic wallpaper template, except slightly blurring and > transparenting the bottom "ocean" to make the sky flow more in tune with > the waves > > The PNGs and SVGs are available at [1]. Please let me know what you > think :) -- ian There is a problem with the PNG rendering, it does not have the reflected sulfur crystals (but they are in the SVG). > [1] http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/art/sulphuric-waves/ -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 13 08:05:23 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:05:23 +0200 Subject: Waves RHGB design In-Reply-To: <47D89AC9.4030207@fedoraproject.org> References: <47D89AC9.4030207@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47D8E043.4020404@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi folks, > > See attached, what do you think? It borrows heavily from the basic f8 > layout. I like it but I think it would be better with the logo surrounded by sulfur crystals you used in the Firstboot design. > One thing I thought might be cool is if we did a custom gtkrc just for > rhgb so that the progress bar here would be the same color yellow as the > sulphur? It would be interesting even more if we put some yellow crystals in the picture above. But I am not sure if it is worth the effort to add gtkrc only for this screen. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From frankly3d at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 08:02:04 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:02:04 +0000 Subject: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System In-Reply-To: <47D8D7E6.6010207@nicubunu.ro> References: <47D80903.3060009@fedoraproject.org> <1205341477.10915.7.camel@frank-01> <604aa7910803121019u48e703ecqb181188166b54e7f@mail.gmail.com> <47D813FF.5080302@nicubunu.ro> <47D8D0E7.6000200@nicubunu.ro> <1205392731.1837.1.camel@frank-01> <47D8D7E6.6010207@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1205395324.3425.1.camel@frank-01> On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 09:29 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 08:59 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > >> Do not count on a webapp, nobody is going to write it... we talked and > >> talked a lot about a webapp to aggregate or host and share our works and > >> show them in a nice way but were not able to come with a solution. Ok, will start a new non-php app\code thread. Frank From frankly3d at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 08:41:34 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:41:34 +0000 Subject: Web-Gallery Ideas FOSS, non-php based. Message-ID: <1205397694.3425.12.camel@frank-01> Complete the list before doing the pros and cons. Just hit reply, and add you suggestion(s) immediately under. Remove excess sigs etc.. http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2004/04/01/masongal.html http://imagearcadia.sourceforge.net/ http://www.fuzzymonkey.net/software/photogallery/readme.html From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 13 08:44:07 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:44:07 +0200 Subject: Testing Inkscape Message-ID: <47D8E957.2000806@nicubunu.ro> Inkscape 0.46 pre3 was built in koji for both F8 and Rawhide, it is the last pre-release (upstream already tagged the final release but is waiting for a Windows specific blocking bug). http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=42732 I will say again: lkundrak rules! -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 13 08:55:34 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:55:34 +0200 Subject: Web-Gallery Ideas FOSS, non-php based. In-Reply-To: <1205397694.3425.12.camel@frank-01> References: <1205397694.3425.12.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47D8EC06.3000600@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > Complete the list before doing the pros and cons. Or we can do the other way: list the minimum requirements and list only the galleries that meet the requirements. We need something which can host SVG files, is multiuser and has a good security track (so it would be accepted by the infrastructure team, that is more important than not being written in php). > Just hit reply, and add you suggestion(s) > immediately under. > Remove excess sigs etc.. > > http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2004/04/01/masongal.html > http://imagearcadia.sourceforge.net/ > http://www.fuzzymonkey.net/software/photogallery/readme.html -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From frankly3d at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 09:19:07 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:19:07 +0000 Subject: Web-Gallery Ideas FOSS, non-php based. In-Reply-To: <47D8EC06.3000600@nicubunu.ro> References: <1205397694.3425.12.camel@frank-01> <47D8EC06.3000600@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1205399947.2857.2.camel@frank-01> On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 10:55 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: > > Complete the list before doing the pros and cons. > > Or we can do the other way: list the minimum requirements and list only > the galleries that meet the requirements. Your not going to get something to meet all minimum requirements. Hence get a list, and then work in which is the easiest\most secure, to modify. From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 13 09:46:13 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:46:13 +0200 Subject: Web-Gallery Ideas FOSS, non-php based. In-Reply-To: <1205399947.2857.2.camel@frank-01> References: <1205397694.3425.12.camel@frank-01> <47D8EC06.3000600@nicubunu.ro> <1205399947.2857.2.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47D8F7E5.2020506@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 10:55 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> Frank Murphy wrote: >>> Complete the list before doing the pros and cons. >> Or we can do the other way: list the minimum requirements and list only >> the galleries that meet the requirements. > > Your not going to get something to meet all minimum requirements. > Hence get a list, and then work in which is the easiest\most secure, > to modify. Forgive me if I am bitter and skeptical about such approach after my experience with the Open Clip Art Library, where we migrated to something (ccHost, which is not that far for our own requests) and a couple of years later nobody implemented basic features like thumbnails. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From frankly3d at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 09:55:55 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:55:55 +0000 Subject: Web-Gallery Ideas FOSS, non-php based. In-Reply-To: <47D8F7E5.2020506@nicubunu.ro> References: <1205397694.3425.12.camel@frank-01> <47D8EC06.3000600@nicubunu.ro> <1205399947.2857.2.camel@frank-01> <47D8F7E5.2020506@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1205402155.3756.3.camel@frank-01> On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 11:46 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Forgive me if I am bitter and skeptical about such approach Didn't come out as either, just another approach. > (ccHost, which is not that far for our own requests) and a > couple of years later nobody implemented basic features like thumbnails. Will have a look at this amongst others, though an not a code jockey. Am willing to read lots of "for dummies". From frankly3d at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 10:56:01 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:56:01 +0000 Subject: Web-Gallery Ideas FOSS, non-php based. (maybe php?) In-Reply-To: <47D8F7E5.2020506@nicubunu.ro> References: <1205397694.3425.12.camel@frank-01> <47D8EC06.3000600@nicubunu.ro> <1205399947.2857.2.camel@frank-01> <47D8F7E5.2020506@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1205405761.4956.0.camel@frank-01> http://wordpress.org/about/ http://justintadlock.com/archives/2008/01/27/custom-fields-for-feeds-wordpress-plugin From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 11:47:07 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:47:07 +0100 Subject: new icons? In-Reply-To: <47D7F7A4.3050104@nicubunu.ro> References: <64b14b300803120817l337b871fse86e289022baf1af@mail.gmail.com> <47D7F7A4.3050104@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <64b14b300803130447m6c78852ej8f942a3c65b5d291@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Valent Turkovic wrote: > > http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/old_icons.png > > > > Hi, > > I'm looking at gnome menu icons in current rawhide and they look > > really out of place. If I remember correctly is was agreed upon that > > there will be an update of this icons with some other. Please correct > > me if I'm wrong. > > The icons in your screenshot look exactly the same as the icons in F8. I know that, but they look "old" compared to the rest of the artwork. Are you looking to update them? Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 13 11:48:57 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:48:57 +0200 Subject: Web-Gallery Ideas FOSS, non-php based. (maybe php?) In-Reply-To: <1205405761.4956.0.camel@frank-01> References: <1205397694.3425.12.camel@frank-01> <47D8EC06.3000600@nicubunu.ro> <1205399947.2857.2.camel@frank-01> <47D8F7E5.2020506@nicubunu.ro> <1205405761.4956.0.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47D914A9.1090204@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > http://wordpress.org/about/ > http://justintadlock.com/archives/2008/01/27/custom-fields-for-feeds-wordpress-plugin There is an initiative to get something usable on top of Wordpress for a Fedora video and image sharing site: http://fedoratv.com/ and https://fedorahosted.org/fedoratv/ but the development looks stalled. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 13 13:19:21 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:19:21 -0400 Subject: new icons? In-Reply-To: <64b14b300803130447m6c78852ej8f942a3c65b5d291@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300803120817l337b871fse86e289022baf1af@mail.gmail.com> <47D7F7A4.3050104@nicubunu.ro> <64b14b300803130447m6c78852ej8f942a3c65b5d291@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47D929D9.6030904@fedoraproject.org> Valent Turkovic wrote: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> Valent Turkovic wrote: >> > http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/old_icons.png >> > >> > Hi, >> > I'm looking at gnome menu icons in current rawhide and they look >> > really out of place. If I remember correctly is was agreed upon that >> > there will be an update of this icons with some other. Please correct >> > me if I'm wrong. >> >> The icons in your screenshot look exactly the same as the icons in F8. > > I know that, but they look "old" compared to the rest of the artwork. > Are you looking to update them? What? ~m From nisses.mail at home.se Thu Mar 13 13:47:17 2008 From: nisses.mail at home.se (Andreas Nilsson) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:47:17 +0100 Subject: new icons? In-Reply-To: <64b14b300803130447m6c78852ej8f942a3c65b5d291@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300803120817l337b871fse86e289022baf1af@mail.gmail.com> <47D7F7A4.3050104@nicubunu.ro> <64b14b300803130447m6c78852ej8f942a3c65b5d291@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47D93065.9020503@home.se> Valent Turkovic wrote: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > >> Valent Turkovic wrote: >> > http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/old_icons.png >> > >> > Hi, >> > I'm looking at gnome menu icons in current rawhide and they look >> > really out of place. If I remember correctly is was agreed upon that >> > there will be an update of this icons with some other. Please correct >> > me if I'm wrong. >> >> The icons in your screenshot look exactly the same as the icons in F8. >> > > I know that, but they look "old" compared to the rest of the artwork. > Are you looking to update them? > > Valent. > I'm not sure what you mean exactly with "looks old", but patches are always welcome! - Andreas From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 14:00:29 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:00:29 +0100 Subject: new icons? In-Reply-To: <47D929D9.6030904@fedoraproject.org> References: <64b14b300803120817l337b871fse86e289022baf1af@mail.gmail.com> <47D7F7A4.3050104@nicubunu.ro> <64b14b300803130447m6c78852ej8f942a3c65b5d291@mail.gmail.com> <47D929D9.6030904@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <64b14b300803130700t3b9104acif557afb410c59cfc@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 2:19 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Valent Turkovic wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > >> Valent Turkovic wrote: > >> > http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/old_icons.png > >> > > >> > Hi, > >> > I'm looking at gnome menu icons in current rawhide and they look > >> > really out of place. If I remember correctly is was agreed upon that > >> > there will be an update of this icons with some other. Please correct > >> > me if I'm wrong. > >> > >> The icons in your screenshot look exactly the same as the icons in F8. > > > > I know that, but they look "old" compared to the rest of the artwork. > > Are you looking to update them? > > What? > > ~m If you open gnome menu to me icons look like from some old linux desktop, they don't look as polished as other visual elements of fedora desktop. I don't understand what you don't understand here. I'm not an artists but I can give you my honest opnion that they look misplaced and "old" compared to any other icon. If you look at firefox or evolution icons they look much better on fedora desktop that icons for "Accesories", "Education", "Games". Games icon looks really retro, and it that was the intent of the artwork then I wouldn't say anything, but I guess it is not. How long are these icons being used? When was the last update of them? Which year? Which fedora release? English is not my primary language so there statements may look a bit to direct and harsh but this is not my intention and all I would like to start is some constructive discussion. Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 15:19:28 2008 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:19:28 -0500 Subject: new icons? In-Reply-To: <64b14b300803130700t3b9104acif557afb410c59cfc@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300803120817l337b871fse86e289022baf1af@mail.gmail.com> <47D7F7A4.3050104@nicubunu.ro> <64b14b300803130447m6c78852ej8f942a3c65b5d291@mail.gmail.com> <47D929D9.6030904@fedoraproject.org> <64b14b300803130700t3b9104acif557afb410c59cfc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47D94600.3030103@gmail.com> Valent Turkovic wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 2:19 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> Valent Turkovic wrote: >> > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> >> Valent Turkovic wrote: >> >> > http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/old_icons.png >> >> > >> >> > Hi, >> >> > I'm looking at gnome menu icons in current rawhide and they look >> >> > really out of place. If I remember correctly is was agreed upon that >> >> > there will be an update of this icons with some other. Please correct >> >> > me if I'm wrong. >> >> >> >> The icons in your screenshot look exactly the same as the icons in F8. >> > >> > I know that, but they look "old" compared to the rest of the artwork. >> > Are you looking to update them? >> >> What? >> >> ~m >> > > If you open gnome menu to me icons look like from some old linux > desktop, they don't look as polished as other visual elements of > fedora desktop. I don't understand what you don't understand here. > I'm not an artists but I can give you my honest opnion that they look > misplaced and "old" compared to any other icon. If you look at firefox > or evolution icons they look much better on fedora desktop that icons > for "Accesories", "Education", "Games". Games icon looks really retro, > and it that was the intent of the artwork then I wouldn't say > anything, but I guess it is not. > > How long are these icons being used? When was the last update of them? > Which year? Which fedora release? > > English is not my primary language so there statements may look a bit > to direct and harsh but this is not my intention and all I would like > to start is some constructive discussion. > > Cheers, > Valent. > > Which is all why we have people working on a new set (Echo) but they're busy with their own lives half the time and development is slow and at times heavily criticized(they're "not tango"). -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ianweller at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 21:10:07 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:10:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: sulphuric waves backgrounds In-Reply-To: <1205390795.6784.4.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> References: <1205390795.6784.4.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Martin Sourada wrote: > What about uploading to wiki, is there > any special reason why you uploaded it to fedorapeople instead? If it's > because the clutter of the wiki page I suggest to make a "Final" > sub-page and put the designs there (together with other things like > GRUB, rhgb, ...). I plan to do that as soon as I get home today. I'll probably put in other stuff to that's been done. -- ian From maillist at diffingo.com Thu Mar 13 21:23:59 2008 From: maillist at diffingo.com (Stewart Adam) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:23:59 -0400 Subject: Theme with smaller font and image sizes Message-ID: <1205443439.15601.41.camel@Diffingo.localdomain> Hi, One thing that's always bothered me about GTK is how large GTK widgets are - especially the Combobox. ?I played around with my fonts sizes and while the height of the Combobox is still pretty high when you compare the hight of the text it holds, smaller font sizes did help. I came across a fairly old page on the web (forgot the link, sorry) that explained how Linux traditionally used 10pt font sizes, 75 dpi. Windows used font size of 8pt and 96dpi. However now that Linux uses 96dpi (and has for a while), the fonts appear to be much larger. Do you think we should provide a theme that reduces the stock image sizes by a bit and uses 8pt fonts? I'm not a great theme designer, but I created a basic gtkrc file similar to the "wimp" gtk theme on Windows. This helped considerably with "screen real estate", as almost every widget got smaller. I'm not suggesting this because Mac has their OS's themed this way, but rather because I find in the default theme there's a lot of potential screen real estate that goes to waste. Since the font size does affect spacing but makes the widgets smaller it made all programs much easier to navigate through! So, what are you thoughts/opinions? I'd be happy to create and package a theme that does what I've mentioned above providing somebody could help me out a little along the way for gtkrc and maybe the theme engine a bit. This is just an idea, feedback, flames, criticisms are all welcome. Stewart From martin.sourada at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 22:39:19 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:39:19 +0100 Subject: Theme with smaller font and image sizes In-Reply-To: <1205443439.15601.41.camel@Diffingo.localdomain> References: <1205443439.15601.41.camel@Diffingo.localdomain> Message-ID: <1205447959.2830.15.camel@pc-notebook> On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 17:23 -0400, Stewart Adam wrote: > Hi, > > One thing that's always bothered me about GTK is how large GTK widgets > are - especially the Combobox. ?I played around with my fonts sizes and > while the height of the Combobox is still pretty high when you compare > the hight of the text it holds, smaller font sizes did help. I came > across a fairly old page on the web (forgot the link, sorry) that > explained how Linux traditionally used 10pt font sizes, 75 dpi. Windows > used font size of 8pt and 96dpi. However now that Linux uses 96dpi (and > has for a while), the fonts appear to be much larger. Do you think we > should provide a theme that reduces the stock image sizes by a bit and > uses 8pt fonts? > It's not a matter of DPI... pt is absolute unit so it will have the same size both with 75 and 96 dpi, as long as the dpi is set correctly, only with higher dpi you'll get nicer and more detailed shapes... > I'm not a great theme designer, but I created a basic gtkrc file similar > to the "wimp" gtk theme on Windows. This helped considerably with > "screen real estate", as almost every widget got smaller. I'm not > suggesting this because Mac has their OS's themed this way, but rather > because I find in the default theme there's a lot of potential screen > real estate that goes to waste. Since the font size does affect spacing > but makes the widgets smaller it made all programs much easier to > navigate through! > Would you mind sharing the gtkrc? It would help to see what you intend to do :) > So, what are you thoughts/opinions? I'd be happy to create and package a > theme that does what I've mentioned above providing somebody could help > me out a little along the way for gtkrc and maybe the theme engine a > bit. This is just an idea, feedback, flames, criticisms are all welcome. > > Stewart > I don't think we need a separate theme for it (though it wouldn't hurt to have one; if you base it on Nodoka, I'd be willing to add it to the extra themes we ship with the engine, probably as Nodoka Small). Just change the default font settings, I don't know in what package this is set, though. And now what I think about changing the default... Well, I suppose many people actually use the 10 pt setting and some even bigger and some smaller, I use 8 pt. Yes, themes tend to look better with smaller font sizes, but you must be aware that 8 pt is too small for many people. I think we could discuss changing from 10 pt to 9 pt, but certainly not to 8 pt. Anyway, font sizes are something that can be easily changed through appearance caplet, so I'd suggest to rather keep the 10 pt which vast majority of people can read easily and the ones who want smaller can easily change it. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mmcgrath at redhat.com Thu Mar 13 23:25:19 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:25:19 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Wiki Migration Message-ID: Hey Art Team! The Infrastructure team is looking to move to mediawiki and would like to work with your team to figure out how best to do that. We have over 4,000 attachments that we have no idea what to do with right now. What would be optimum for your team? Would a non-wiki solution work best? Do any of you know of any gallery type plugins for mediawiki? How does your workflow work for the arts section of the wiki? Does it work for you guys? Do you like it? Anyone here interested in helping with the wiki migration? As you can see, we've got a LONG way to go. https://publictest1.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork -Mike From ianweller at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 23:53:40 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:53:40 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Wiki Migration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Mike McGrath wrote: > The Infrastructure team is looking to move to mediawiki and would like to > work with your team to figure out how best to do that. We have over 4,000 > attachments that we have no idea what to do with right now. What would be > optimum for your team? Would a non-wiki solution work best? Do any of > you know of any gallery type plugins for mediawiki? Wikimedia Commons has some sort of gallery plugin installed, where media files are just shoved in a tag. I'm relatively sure that's built in, but I'll get back to you on that... I'll leave the remainder of the artTeam to answer the rest of the questions. ;) -- ian From ianweller at gmail.com Thu Mar 13 23:55:45 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:55:45 -0500 (CDT) Subject: waves round 3 final Message-ID: FYI: I'm going to start merging all of the stuff from the mailing list and the wiki into a Round3Final page under Waves. I'll be sure to give credit where credit is due. -- ian From ianweller at gmail.com Fri Mar 14 01:36:19 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:36:19 -0500 (CDT) Subject: sulphuric waves backgrounds In-Reply-To: <47D8DF4B.2080005@nicubunu.ro> References: <47D8DF4B.2080005@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: > I would keep them burning all day long for consistency. > > There is a problem with the PNG rendering, it does not have the > reflected sulfur crystals (but they are in the SVG). > Both issues fixed in latest upload, available at [1] -- ian [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final From duffy at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 14 01:59:13 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:59:13 -0400 Subject: Wiki Migration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47D9DBF1.5000804@fedoraproject.org> Hey Mike! Mike McGrath wrote: > The Infrastructure team is looking to move to mediawiki and would like to > work with your team to figure out how best to do that. We have over 4,000 > attachments that we have no idea what to do with right now. What would be > optimum for your team? Would a non-wiki solution work best? Do any of > you know of any gallery type plugins for mediawiki? I forgot to talk to you about this - but the gallery2wiki plugin for media wiki looks pretty sweet. It does dynamic galleries based on the tags you add to photos. It seems pretty sweet: http://www.transarte.net/mediawiki/index.php/Gallery2wiki I have used gallery before and it's not bad so I think this might be worth a try? > How does your workflow work for the arts section of the wiki? Does it > work for you guys? Do you like it? It's okay for writing up specification style documents eg having inline mockups in a spec or having a list of graphics for one specific purpose (e.g. the release artwork mockups). But sometimes it would be nice to have a galley of all the artwork of a specific style, e.g., to be able to tag all artwork that is a banner and be able to have a dynamic gallery of all banners would be awesome! Or to have one gallery of all the mockups and iterations of one particular piece we're working on would also be helpful. > > Anyone here interested in helping with the wiki migration? As you can > see, we've got a LONG way to go. > > https://publictest1.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork Count me in, what can I do? ~m From s.adam at diffingo.com Fri Mar 14 02:00:29 2008 From: s.adam at diffingo.com (Stewart Adam) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:00:29 -0400 Subject: Theme with smaller font and image sizes In-Reply-To: <1205447959.2830.15.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1205443439.15601.41.camel@Diffingo.localdomain> <1205447959.2830.15.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1205460029.21481.11.camel@Diffingo.localdomain> On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 23:39 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: > Would you mind sharing the gtkrc? It would help to see what you intend > to do :) Sure! It's a mix of nodoka (for consistency) and wimp (for making the icons and fonts smaller). I have a few (commented) lines in there for when I develop GTK programs on Windows, just ignore those ;) http://www.firewing1.com/downloads/gtkrc-nodoka-small > I don't think we need a separate theme for it (though it wouldn't hurt > to have one; if you base it on Nodoka, I'd be willing to add it to the > extra themes we ship with the engine, probably as Nodoka Small). Just > change the default font settings, I don't know in what package this is > set, though. > > And now what I think about changing the default... Well, I suppose many > people actually use the 10 pt setting and some even bigger and some > smaller, I use 8 pt. Yes, themes tend to look better with smaller font > sizes, but you must be aware that 8 pt is too small for many people. I > think we could discuss changing from 10 pt to 9 pt, but certainly not to > 8 pt. If we could change that I think it would help - That way it's more balanced between "easy to read" and "large/bulky layout". > Anyway, font sizes are something that can be easily changed through > appearance caplet, so I'd suggest to rather keep the 10 pt which vast > majority of people can read easily and the ones who want smaller can > easily change it. > > Martin On another note, I've tried modifying gtkrc to make the Combobox shorter but I can't seem to be able to - There's always lots of padding around text. Would I have to modify the engine to do this? Thanks, Stewart From mmcgrath at redhat.com Fri Mar 14 03:10:45 2008 From: mmcgrath at redhat.com (Mike McGrath) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:10:45 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Wiki Migration In-Reply-To: <47D9DBF1.5000804@fedoraproject.org> References: <47D9DBF1.5000804@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Mike McGrath wrote: > > attachments that we have no idea what to do with right now. What would be > > optimum for your team? Would a non-wiki solution work best? Do any of > > you know of any gallery type plugins for mediawiki? > > I forgot to talk to you about this - but the gallery2wiki plugin for media > wiki looks pretty sweet. It does dynamic galleries based on the tags you add > to photos. It seems pretty sweet: > > http://www.transarte.net/mediawiki/index.php/Gallery2wiki > > I have used gallery before and it's not bad so I think this might be worth a > try? > Absolutely, we can give it a go. The problem we have in this case is initial setups, if you wanted shell on a box to get it up and going and see if its your thing we can make sure to get it in the rollout. If not we'll make sure its in shortly after that. The infrastructure team loves the art team, anything we can do to help we're quite happy to do. > > > > Anyone here interested in helping with the wiki migration? As you can > > see, we've got a LONG way to go. > > > > https://publictest1.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork > > Count me in, what can I do? > If any of you are regular MediaWiki users and are familiar (middle - expert level) with their markup please stop by #fedora-admin and let us know, we have some questions for you which will help ease our migration script. -Mike From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Fri Mar 14 04:22:47 2008 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:22:47 -0500 Subject: Wiki Migration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47D9FD97.5070800@gmail.com> Mike McGrath wrote: > Hey Art Team! > > The Infrastructure team is looking to move to mediawiki and would like to > work with your team to figure out how best to do that. We have over 4,000 > attachments that we have no idea what to do with right now. What would be > optimum for your team? Would a non-wiki solution work best? Do any of > you know of any gallery type plugins for mediawiki? > > How does your workflow work for the arts section of the wiki? Does it > work for you guys? Do you like it? > > Anyone here interested in helping with the wiki migration? As you can > see, we've got a LONG way to go. > > https://publictest1.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork > > -Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > I looked at the testing version that is up and I really like the potential. I don't know very much about wiki installation/migration and whatnot, but I'm certainly not against learning and helping where I can. Lets do this. -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From ianweller at gmail.com Fri Mar 14 04:34:20 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:34:20 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Wiki Migration In-Reply-To: References: <47D9DBF1.5000804@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Mike McGrath wrote: > If any of you are regular MediaWiki users and are familiar (middle - > expert level) with their markup please stop by #fedora-admin and let us > know, we have some questions for you which will help ease our migration > script. I know a reasonable amount of MediaWiki templating syntax and whatnot -- really powerful stuff. ;) I went ahead and pinged you in #fedora-admin, so if there's anything I can do to help, holler... -- ian From ianweller at gmail.com Fri Mar 14 04:35:41 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:35:41 -0500 (CDT) Subject: waves round 3 final In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Ian Weller wrote: > FYI: I'm going to start merging all of the stuff from the mailing list and > the wiki into a Round3Final page under Waves. I'll be sure to give credit > where credit is due. -- ian > The page is now up at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final -- ian From jonstanley at gmail.com Fri Mar 14 04:46:21 2008 From: jonstanley at gmail.com (Jon Stanley) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:46:21 -0400 Subject: waves round 3 final In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Ian Weller wrote: > The page is now up at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final I *love* the wallpaper. The "flaming" sulphur is awesome! Great work that I couldn't even think about doing! :) From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Fri Mar 14 07:46:05 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:46:05 +0100 Subject: new icons? In-Reply-To: <47D94600.3030103@gmail.com> References: <64b14b300803120817l337b871fse86e289022baf1af@mail.gmail.com> <47D7F7A4.3050104@nicubunu.ro> <64b14b300803130447m6c78852ej8f942a3c65b5d291@mail.gmail.com> <47D929D9.6030904@fedoraproject.org> <64b14b300803130700t3b9104acif557afb410c59cfc@mail.gmail.com> <47D94600.3030103@gmail.com> Message-ID: <64b14b300803140046g5e3d7428wde0adbcbf94c96e2@mail.gmail.com> 2008/3/13 Michael Beckwith : > > Valent Turkovic wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 2:19 PM, M?ir?n Duffy > wrote: > > > Valent Turkovic wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Nicu Buculei > wrote: > >> Valent Turkovic wrote: > >> > http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/old_icons.png > >> > > >> > Hi, > >> > I'm looking at gnome menu icons in current rawhide and they look > >> > really out of place. If I remember correctly is was agreed upon that > >> > there will be an update of this icons with some other. Please correct > >> > me if I'm wrong. > >> > >> The icons in your screenshot look exactly the same as the icons in F8. > > > > I know that, but they look "old" compared to the rest of the artwork. > > Are you looking to update them? > > What? > > ~m > > If you open gnome menu to me icons look like from some old linux > desktop, they don't look as polished as other visual elements of > fedora desktop. I don't understand what you don't understand here. > I'm not an artists but I can give you my honest opnion that they look > misplaced and "old" compared to any other icon. If you look at firefox > or evolution icons they look much better on fedora desktop that icons > for "Accesories", "Education", "Games". Games icon looks really retro, > and it that was the intent of the artwork then I wouldn't say > anything, but I guess it is not. > > How long are these icons being used? When was the last update of them? > Which year? Which fedora release? > > English is not my primary language so there statements may look a bit > to direct and harsh but this is not my intention and all I would like > to start is some constructive discussion. > > Cheers, > Valent. > > > Which is all why we have people working on a new set (Echo) but they're > busy with their own lives half the time and development is slow and at times > heavily criticized(they're "not tango"). That is all the info I needed, thank you Michael. So is there a chance that echo icons get done in time for F9? Ah, if they cricitize tell them to put up or shutup :) (ironic comment) :) Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Mar 14 08:04:04 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:04:04 +0200 Subject: Wiki Migration In-Reply-To: <47D9DBF1.5000804@fedoraproject.org> References: <47D9DBF1.5000804@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47DA3174.4060308@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Mike McGrath wrote: >> The Infrastructure team is looking to move to mediawiki and would like to >> work with your team to figure out how best to do that. We have over >> 4,000 >> attachments that we have no idea what to do with right now. What >> would be >> optimum for your team? Would a non-wiki solution work best? Do any of >> you know of any gallery type plugins for mediawiki? > > I forgot to talk to you about this - but the gallery2wiki plugin for > media wiki looks pretty sweet. It does dynamic galleries based on the > tags you add to photos. It seems pretty sweet: > > http://www.transarte.net/mediawiki/index.php/Gallery2wiki > > I have used gallery before and it's not bad so I think this might be > worth a try? That means also getting a full working Gallery2 instance which we can/would use for other purposes (like wallpaper sharing / GRUB themes sharing and such)? Can't we host the images in Gallery2 and just hotlink them in Mediawiki when needed? How about SVG support in Gallery2? A short research tells me its create thumbnails for SVG with imagemagick, so potentially sub-optimal. On the other hand, in my experience with Wikipedia, the built-in SVG support in Mediawiki (including thumbnailing) is quite good. >> How does your workflow work for the arts section of the wiki? Does it >> work for you guys? Do you like it? > > It's okay for writing up specification style documents eg having inline > mockups in a spec or having a list of graphics for one specific purpose > (e.g. the release artwork mockups). But sometimes it would be nice to > have a galley of all the artwork of a specific style, e.g., to be able > to tag all artwork that is a banner and be able to have a dynamic > gallery of all banners would be awesome! Or to have one gallery of all > the mockups and iterations of one particular piece we're working on > would also be helpful. Can't we use for such grouping something like categories in Wikimedia Commons? Something like http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/GNOME - i believe you include the right category markup in the page and it is dynamically included in the category gallery. I think such category pages may solve the problem without the need fir integration with an external gallery (integration made with an "alpha" plug-in). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nisses.mail at home.se Fri Mar 14 09:35:10 2008 From: nisses.mail at home.se (Andreas Nilsson) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:35:10 +0100 Subject: new icons? In-Reply-To: <64b14b300803130700t3b9104acif557afb410c59cfc@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300803120817l337b871fse86e289022baf1af@mail.gmail.com> <47D7F7A4.3050104@nicubunu.ro> <64b14b300803130447m6c78852ej8f942a3c65b5d291@mail.gmail.com> <47D929D9.6030904@fedoraproject.org> <64b14b300803130700t3b9104acif557afb410c59cfc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47DA46CE.7040003@home.se> Valent Turkovic wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 2:19 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> Valent Turkovic wrote: >> > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> >> Valent Turkovic wrote: >> >> > http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/old_icons.png >> >> > >> >> > Hi, >> >> > I'm looking at gnome menu icons in current rawhide and they look >> >> > really out of place. If I remember correctly is was agreed upon that >> >> > there will be an update of this icons with some other. Please correct >> >> > me if I'm wrong. >> >> >> >> The icons in your screenshot look exactly the same as the icons in F8. >> > >> > I know that, but they look "old" compared to the rest of the artwork. >> > Are you looking to update them? >> >> What? >> >> ~m >> > > If you open gnome menu to me icons look like from some old linux > desktop, they don't look as polished as other visual elements of > fedora desktop. I don't understand what you don't understand here. > I'm not an artists but I can give you my honest opnion that they look > misplaced and "old" compared to any other icon. If you look at firefox > or evolution icons they look much better on fedora desktop that icons > for "Accesories", "Education", "Games". Games icon looks really retro, > and it that was the intent of the artwork then I wouldn't say > anything, but I guess it is not. > > How long are these icons being used? When was the last update of them? > Which year? Which fedora release? > > English is not my primary language so there statements may look a bit > to direct and harsh but this is not my intention and all I would like > to start is some constructive discussion. > > Cheers, > Valent. > Hi Valent! These menu icons are about 1 to 1,5 years old (so quite new actually), the latest addition to the set itself was about 5 weeks ago. You can see the details here: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnome-icon-theme/trunk/ (under size/categories) Fixes for them are more than welcome, just file bugs in bugzilla with attached patches. - Andreas From nisses.mail at home.se Fri Mar 14 11:20:35 2008 From: nisses.mail at home.se (Andreas Nilsson) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:20:35 +0100 Subject: new icons? In-Reply-To: <47DA46CE.7040003@home.se> References: <64b14b300803120817l337b871fse86e289022baf1af@mail.gmail.com> <47D7F7A4.3050104@nicubunu.ro> <64b14b300803130447m6c78852ej8f942a3c65b5d291@mail.gmail.com> <47D929D9.6030904@fedoraproject.org> <64b14b300803130700t3b9104acif557afb410c59cfc@mail.gmail.com> <47DA46CE.7040003@home.se> Message-ID: <47DA5F83.4000902@home.se> Andreas Nilsson wrote: > Valent Turkovic wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 2:19 PM, M?ir?n Duffy >> wrote: >> >>> Valent Turkovic wrote: >>> > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Nicu Buculei >>> wrote: >>> >> Valent Turkovic wrote: >>> >> > http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/old_icons.png >>> >> > >>> >> > Hi, >>> >> > I'm looking at gnome menu icons in current rawhide and they look >>> >> > really out of place. If I remember correctly is was agreed >>> upon that >>> >> > there will be an update of this icons with some other. Please >>> correct >>> >> > me if I'm wrong. >>> >> >>> >> The icons in your screenshot look exactly the same as the icons >>> in F8. >>> > >>> > I know that, but they look "old" compared to the rest of the >>> artwork. >>> > Are you looking to update them? >>> >>> What? >>> >>> ~m >>> >> >> If you open gnome menu to me icons look like from some old linux >> desktop, they don't look as polished as other visual elements of >> fedora desktop. I don't understand what you don't understand here. >> I'm not an artists but I can give you my honest opnion that they look >> misplaced and "old" compared to any other icon. If you look at firefox >> or evolution icons they look much better on fedora desktop that icons >> for "Accesories", "Education", "Games". Games icon looks really retro, >> and it that was the intent of the artwork then I wouldn't say >> anything, but I guess it is not. >> >> How long are these icons being used? When was the last update of them? >> Which year? Which fedora release? >> >> English is not my primary language so there statements may look a bit >> to direct and harsh but this is not my intention and all I would like >> to start is some constructive discussion. >> >> Cheers, >> Valent. >> > Hi Valent! > These menu icons are about 1 to 1,5 years old (so quite new actually), > the latest addition to the set itself was about 5 weeks ago. You can > see the details here: > http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnome-icon-theme/trunk/ (under > size/categories) > > Fixes for them are more than welcome, just file bugs in bugzilla with > attached patches. > - Andreas To clarify myself, that doesn't mean we haven't been drawing a single pixel in the GNOME Artwork Team the last month. :) Our recent work have been icons and other graphics for Firefox 3, Evolution, Tomboy, Seahorse and Banshee (we fixed rhythmbox already) among others. - Andreas From ianweller at gmail.com Fri Mar 14 16:25:58 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:25:58 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Wiki Migration In-Reply-To: <47DA3174.4060308@nicubunu.ro> References: <47D9DBF1.5000804@fedoraproject.org> <47DA3174.4060308@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Can't we use for such grouping something like categories in Wikimedia > Commons? Something like http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/GNOME - i > believe you include the right category markup in the page and it is > dynamically included in the category gallery. > > I think such category pages may solve the problem without the need fir > integration with an external gallery (integration made with an "alpha" > plug-in). Galleries can be done within pages with the tag, as seen at [1]. It looks like category galleries are automatic with media files; they just have to be added to galleries on the image's information page (just hitting 'edit'). -- ian [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora_%28Linux_distribution%29#Fedora_gallery From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Mar 14 17:24:26 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:24:26 +0200 Subject: Wiki Migration In-Reply-To: References: <47D9DBF1.5000804@fedoraproject.org> <47DA3174.4060308@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47DAB4CA.5050106@nicubunu.ro> Ian Weller wrote: > On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> I think such category pages may solve the problem without the need fir >> integration with an external gallery (integration made with an "alpha" >> plug-in). > Galleries can be done within pages with the tag, as seen at > [1]. It looks like category galleries are automatic with media files; > they just have to be added to galleries on the image's information page > (just hitting 'edit'). It would be even better if those galleries could be generated dynamically (like the category pages) but I think they are good enough: we can use static galleries in some cases and categories when needed. Note: I am not opposed to having a stand-alone gallery, be it Gallery2 or something else but I think 1) it should offer the features we need (I am not very convinced Gallery2 offer them, but I have studied it briefly) and 2) if we ask too much from the start we may end getting noting, so small steps are good sometime. > [1] > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora_%28Linux_distribution%29#Fedora_gallery -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From frankly3d at gmail.com Sat Mar 15 09:46:11 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:46:11 +0000 Subject: Fedora Symbols + Color Q's? Message-ID: <1205574371.3912.14.camel@frank-01> 1: Is\will blue always be the base colour of fedora art? 2: Where can a size list for the different art (splash, bg. etc..) be found? 3: Can I ask here for a copy of "f,v,i" originals, or do the info@ addy? 4: Is it ok, to do a standalone bg., that is not part of a theme set? Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com Sat Mar 15 12:33:59 2008 From: ben.arnold.inbox at gmail.com (Ben Arnold) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:33:59 +0000 Subject: Fedora Symbols + Color Q's? In-Reply-To: <1205574371.3912.14.camel@frank-01> References: <1205574371.3912.14.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <9c3bfa1d0803150533tcc6cf10of99b45f0bc49f9ac@mail.gmail.com> On 15/03/2008, Frank Murphy wrote: > 1: Is\will blue always be the base colour of fedora art? Quite probably; blue is well associated with fedora as other colours are to other distributions, SuSE green etc. The RedHat red and fedora blue contrast shows the difference between the two redhat-ish distros too. I remember there was a discussion a few months ago if anyone can find it :) > 2: Where can a size list for the different art (splash, bg. etc..) be > found? The wiki has it but it was a little while ago. It could be found at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemingOverview > 4: Is it ok, to do a standalone bg., that is not part of a theme set? We usually start with the background and work otherways as you can extract graphics from it rather than mashing it together from other artwork. Usually a copy of the wallpaper is used in the login screen to give consistency. Since it is the mostly seen artwork (think screenies from reviews etc.) it would probably be the better idea to keep it as focus IMHO. Feel free to disagree amongst the list as to my opinions! -- | ..// seawolf //.. | | Ben Arnold | | e-mail / msn / icq / web | | http://clik.to/seawolfsanctuary | | ben.arnold.inbox (at) gmail.com | | GnuPG Available - ask me! | From ianweller at gmail.com Sun Mar 16 18:54:05 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:54:05 -0500 (CDT) Subject: ThemingOverview Message-ID: Hey list, With the rest of the ArtTeam I'd like to reupdate the Artwork/ThemingOverview page on the wiki [1] to what currently is standard. afaik, there were some changes in GDM from F8 to F9, and there are probably some other changes that can be made to that page, so I'd like to help keep the wiki up to date. ^_^ -- ian From ianweller at gmail.com Mon Mar 17 05:43:51 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:43:51 -0500 (CDT) Subject: brainstorm: which sulphur variation? Message-ID: Throughout Waves/Round3Final [1], we see the plain Fedora logo on waves, the Fedora logo with non-burning sulphur on waves, and the wallpapers with burning sulphur. Should we plan to standardize it across the board or keep it creative? My argument for standardization is that the purpose of the theme is to standardize all of the graphics, however my argument against it is that sulphur is different in nature, depending on how much there is or what it's with. I personally would like the Fedora logo with the sulphur in all the images, but we'd have to reburn it, and the Fedora logo might look like it were on fire. -- ian [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final From nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net Sun Mar 16 15:24:22 2008 From: nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net (Nicolas Mailhot) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:24:22 +0100 Subject: [LONG] State of the Fedora Fonts SIG Message-ID: <1205681062.4440.76.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Hi all, Since it's Fedora 9 feature freeze/beta release time, I thought it would be good to take a look at what happened during the Fedora 8 cycle on the fonts front and make an advancement summary. This is mostly the same thing as in the release notes but much more detailed and contributor, not user oriented. A. Infrastructure/background work 1. a Fonts SIG was created, with the associated infrastructure wiki : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts mailing lists : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts#ML 2. Font packaging documentation was written,reviewed and approved by FPC and FESCO http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Packaging/Policy http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Packaging/SpecTemplate http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Packaging/Fontconfig (the fonts spec template was added to rpmdevtools and will be available whenever a new rpmdevtools release is made hint hint) 3. Legal rules for fonts within Fedora were clarified, ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Legal#licenses 4. A long list of potential packageable floss fonts was written http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Triaging/Pipeline#Wishes ? (Given the usual font licensing mess, that's no small feat, many thanks to M?ir?n Duffy who contributed most of it) 5. Work is under way to identify upstream font-related problems that affect Fedora, in the hope Fedora developers can contribute to their fixing, and Fedora users can comment in the upstream issues trackers and make them a priority upstream http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/QA#known-problems B. Distribution changes 1. As a result of the licensing rules clarification, some historic RHL/Fedora fonts were dropped (Luxy, Syriac fonts, etc) http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/devel/xorg-x11-fonts/xorg-x11-fonts.spec?rev=1.27&view=log Hunky was dropped from the release for lack of userbase (early Bitstream Vera derivative, since then completely deprecated in favour of DejaVu) 2. New font tools (xgridfit?) were packaged, others (fontforge) updated 3. New fonts were packaged Greek Font Society fonts (13 fonts, Greek and Latin support) Stix (math and engineering symbols) Tiresias (low-vision latin fonts) Samyak and Sarai fonts (indic support) Thaifonts-scalable (Thai support) The WenQuanYi Zen Hei (Chinese sans-serif font) Inconsolata (monospace font) Silkscreen, Yanone Kaffeesatz (art fonts) efont (bitmap terminal font) 4. Efforts were expended to classify fonts in comps a bit better http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/comps/comps-f9.xml.in 5. The two main distribution fonts, DejaVu and Liberation were updated to new versions increasing unicode coverage. DejaVu replaced DejaVu LGC as default font set at the beginning of the Fedora 9 cycle. Since I know this is all very nebulous, here are some numbers Fedora 8 sans-serif default fonts at release time: DejaVu LGC Sans: 3768 glyphs (2.19) Liberation Sans: 668 glyphs (0.2) DejaVu Sans: 4959 glyphs (2.20) (would prempt the two others, but not installed by default) Current Fedora devel ?ans-serif default fonts: ? DejaVu Sans: 5270 glyphs (2.24) Liberation Sans: ?668 glyphs (1.0, many fixes in the 0.2 glyphs) C. What remains to be done (short-term) 1. Package more fonts. We now have a font packager-friendly environment. With clear packaging guidelines and a huge font wishlist, packaging work now mostly consists in contacting upstreams to make them release files in packageable state (with license, versions, etc) and filling in the standard font spec template. Thus we mainly need motivated packagers. The work is not hard, if time consuming, and there's no way the current team can do it all by itself. Spreading the load would help a lot. 2. Get bugs fixed upstream Unfortunately Linux problems are somewhat low on the radar or projects like Firefox and Mozilla, and problems of Linux users that didn't copy Windows fonts even lower. We need more people to comment/vote on the issues referenced in ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/QA#known-problems I could write a lot more, but this is long enough so it will have to do. Do not hesitate to send comments or ask questions on on the SIG list. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts#ML Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 17 08:11:39 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:11:39 +0200 Subject: Fedora Symbols + Color Q's? In-Reply-To: <1205574371.3912.14.camel@frank-01> References: <1205574371.3912.14.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47DE27BB.4050603@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > 1: Is\will blue always be the base colour of fedora art? Always is a strong word. There are people arguing for and against blue. > 2: Where can a size list for the different art (splash, bg. etc..) be > found? Ben already gave the address. > 3: Can I ask here for a copy of "f,v,i" originals, or do the info@ addy? You want access to the source of the logo? read here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo and send a mail to the logo@ address. > 4: Is it ok, to do a standalone bg., that is not part of a theme set? Sure, fell free to do as many backgrounds as you like. However, we don't have at the moment a way or policy to package them in the distro or a special website for sharing them so would have to put them on you blog, on fedoraforum.org, deviantART and such (as some of us do). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 17 08:21:36 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:21:36 +0200 Subject: ThemingOverview In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47DE2A10.3060208@nicubunu.ro> Ian Weller wrote: > Hey list, > > With the rest of the ArtTeam I'd like to reupdate the > Artwork/ThemingOverview page on the wiki [1] to what currently is standard. Sure, please do. I will try to watch the changes and complement them if needed. > afaik, there were some changes in GDM from F8 to F9, and there are > probably some other changes that can be made to that page, so I'd like > to help keep the wiki up to date. ^_^ Yes, this is probably the most important change and here is a starting point for documenting it: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2008-February/msg00042.html Basically, in my understanding, at this point the theming work for GDM is out of the list, we don't have to do anything (but may want to revisit it in a later release) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From frankly3d at gmail.com Mon Mar 17 08:27:40 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:27:40 +0000 Subject: Fedora Symbols + Color Q's? In-Reply-To: <47DE27BB.4050603@nicubunu.ro> References: <1205574371.3912.14.camel@frank-01> <47DE27BB.4050603@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1205742460.21006.4.camel@frank-01> On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 10:11 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > 4: Is it ok, to do a standalone bg., that is not part of a theme set? > > Sure, fell free to do as many backgrounds as you like. > However, we don't have at the moment a way or policy to package them in > the distro or a special website for sharing them so would have to put > them on you blog, on fedoraforum.org, deviantART and such (as some of us > do). > I can then do some stand-alones, while learning the ropes. Frank "shona duit", la le Phadraig -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I think standardization is good. > I personally would like the Fedora logo with the sulphur in all the > images, but we'd have to reburn it, and the Fedora logo might look like > it were on fire. I like *a lot* the combination of logo and crystals from the Firstboot image but I also know we don't want logos on the desktop wallpaper, so it won't be used there. The RHGB screen is all blue, a bit of monotone, a bit of color (a yellow crystal. with or without logo, with or without flame) would make it more vivid. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 17 08:35:12 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:35:12 +0200 Subject: Fedora Symbols + Color Q's? In-Reply-To: <1205742460.21006.4.camel@frank-01> References: <1205574371.3912.14.camel@frank-01> <47DE27BB.4050603@nicubunu.ro> <1205742460.21006.4.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47DE2D40.20307@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 10:11 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: >>> 4: Is it ok, to do a standalone bg., that is not part of a theme set? >> Sure, fell free to do as many backgrounds as you like. >> However, we don't have at the moment a way or policy to package them in >> the distro or a special website for sharing them so would have to put >> them on you blog, on fedoraforum.org, deviantART and such (as some of us >> do). >> > > I can then do some stand-alones, while learning the ropes. A few places where you can publish them (until we get a better solution): http://www.fedoraforum.org/gallery/browseimages.php?c=2 http://fedora-art.deviantart.com/favourites/ http://flickr.com/groups/fedora-art/ -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From gort.klaatu at gmail.com Mon Mar 17 16:01:11 2008 From: gort.klaatu at gmail.com (Klaatu and Gort) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:01:11 -0700 Subject: [LONG] State of the Fedora Fonts SIG In-Reply-To: <1205681062.4440.76.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> References: <1205681062.4440.76.camel@rousalka.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Hopefully this is not a completely uninformed suggestion, but I have been culling fonts that are licensed as "free" from dafont.com for a year and a half now, and I always add them to my Fedora install....and I'm wondering if it would be worth me investigating with the makers of some of these fonts as to whether they would care to have these fonts included in a LInux distro. I would be happy to contact the font designers with the idea, if the Art team has the desire and/or power to include some of these fonts with the distribution. - klaatu 2008/3/16 Nicolas Mailhot : > Hi all, > > Since it's Fedora 9 feature freeze/beta release time, I thought it would > be good to take a look at what happened during the Fedora 8 cycle on the > fonts front and make an advancement summary. This is mostly the same > thing as in the release notes but much more detailed and contributor, > not user oriented. > > > A. Infrastructure/background work > > 1. a Fonts SIG was created, with the associated infrastructure > wiki : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts > mailing lists : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts#ML > > 2. Font packaging documentation was written,reviewed and approved by FPC > and FESCO > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Packaging/Policy > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Packaging/SpecTemplate > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Packaging/Fontconfig > (the fonts spec template was added to rpmdevtools and will be available > whenever a new rpmdevtools release is made hint hint) > > 3. Legal rules for fonts within Fedora were clarified, > ? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Legal#licenses > > 4. A long list of potential packageable floss fonts was written > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/Triaging/Pipeline#Wishes > ? (Given the usual font licensing mess, that's no small feat, many > thanks to M?ir?n Duffy who contributed most of it) > > 5. Work is under way to identify upstream font-related problems that > affect Fedora, in the hope Fedora developers can contribute to their > fixing, and Fedora users can comment in the upstream issues trackers and > make them a priority upstream > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/QA#known-problems > > > B. Distribution changes > > 1. As a result of the licensing rules clarification, some historic > RHL/Fedora fonts were dropped (Luxy, Syriac fonts, etc) > http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/devel/xorg-x11-fonts/xorg-x11-fonts.spec?rev=1.27&view=log > > Hunky was dropped from the release for lack of userbase (early Bitstream > Vera derivative, since then completely deprecated in favour of DejaVu) > > 2. New font tools (xgridfit?) were packaged, others (fontforge) updated > > 3. New fonts were packaged > Greek Font Society fonts (13 fonts, Greek and Latin support) > Stix (math and engineering symbols) > Tiresias (low-vision latin fonts) > Samyak and Sarai fonts (indic support) > Thaifonts-scalable (Thai support) > The WenQuanYi Zen Hei (Chinese sans-serif font) > Inconsolata (monospace font) > Silkscreen, Yanone Kaffeesatz (art fonts) > efont (bitmap terminal font) > > 4. Efforts were expended to classify fonts in comps a bit better > http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/comps/comps-f9.xml.in > > 5. The two main distribution fonts, DejaVu and Liberation were updated > to new versions increasing unicode coverage. DejaVu replaced DejaVu LGC > as default font set at the beginning of the Fedora 9 cycle. Since I know > this is all very nebulous, here are some numbers > > Fedora 8 sans-serif default fonts at release time: > DejaVu LGC Sans: 3768 glyphs (2.19) > Liberation Sans: 668 glyphs (0.2) > DejaVu Sans: 4959 glyphs (2.20) > (would prempt the two others, but not installed by default) > > Current Fedora devel ?ans-serif default fonts: > ? DejaVu Sans: 5270 glyphs (2.24) > Liberation Sans: ?668 glyphs (1.0, many fixes in the 0.2 glyphs) > > > C. What remains to be done (short-term) > > 1. Package more fonts. > > We now have a font packager-friendly environment. With clear > packaging guidelines and a huge font wishlist, packaging work now mostly > consists in contacting upstreams to make them release files in > packageable state (with license, versions, etc) and filling in the > standard font spec template. > > Thus we mainly need motivated packagers. The work is not hard, if > time consuming, and there's no way the current team can do it all by > itself. Spreading the load would help a lot. > > 2. Get bugs fixed upstream > > Unfortunately Linux problems are somewhat low on the radar or projects > like Firefox and Mozilla, and problems of Linux users that didn't copy > Windows fonts even lower. We need more people to comment/vote on the > issues referenced in ? > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts/QA#known-problems > > I could write a lot more, but this is long enough so it will have to do. > Do not hesitate to send comments or ask questions on on the SIG list. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts#ML > > Regards, > > -- > Nicolas Mailhot > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- --- use linux. support free software. subscribe to http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml From ianweller at gmail.com Mon Mar 17 16:52:15 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:52:15 -0500 (CDT) Subject: brainstorm: which sulphur variation? In-Reply-To: <47DE2BD3.1030707@nicubunu.ro> References: <47DE2BD3.1030707@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Mar 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: > I think standardization is good. > > I like *a lot* the combination of logo and crystals from the Firstboot > image but I also know we don't want logos on the desktop wallpaper, so > it won't be used there. > > The RHGB screen is all blue, a bit of monotone, a bit of color (a yellow > crystal. with or without logo, with or without flame) would make it more > vivid. So should we keep the current sulphur configuration on the desktops, and have the sulphur "archipelago" with the logo when we want the logo? I also don't think it should necessarily be burning, since the Fedora logo is in the way, and we should probably not be setting Fedora on fire. :/ I personally think that everything we can put the logo on without it being stretched, or being a desktop picture, should have the logo/archipelago. Of course, these concepts slap standardization in the face a little bit, but it's more than it currently is... -- ian From frankly3d at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 12:01:35 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:01:35 +0000 Subject: F7 Art Programs Used? Message-ID: <1205841695.3260.2.camel@frank-01> Can someone lmk, what apps were used for the background? Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Mar 18 13:17:50 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:17:50 +0200 Subject: F7 Art Programs Used? In-Reply-To: <1205841695.3260.2.camel@frank-01> References: <1205841695.3260.2.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47DFC0FE.6090205@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > Can someone lmk, what apps were used for the background? Are you asking about Fedora 7 and the Flying High theme? That was made with Photoshop (don't ask :p ) by Diana, who is no longer with us (GIMP can open .psd files). For ulterior versions (F8, F9) it mostly Inkscape and GIMP. Note that some other applications where used and probably will be used, the F6 "DNA" theme was a combination of Blender and Photoshop/GIMP. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From frankly3d at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 13:47:14 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:47:14 +0000 Subject: F7 Art Programs Used? In-Reply-To: <47DFC0FE.6090205@nicubunu.ro> References: <1205841695.3260.2.camel@frank-01> <47DFC0FE.6090205@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1205848034.5738.5.camel@frank-01> On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 15:17 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: > > Can someone lmk, what apps were used for the background? > > Are you asking about Fedora 7 and the Flying High theme? That was made > with Photoshop (don't ask :p ) by Diana, who is no longer with us (GIMP > can open .psd files). I'm asking because my brain seems to see 3d, rather than 2d, and if I can swing fedora 3d apps to my use, 3d wouldn't be dismissed out ofhand? > > For ulterior versions (F8, F9) it mostly Inkscape and GIMP. Note that > some other applications where used and probably will be used, the F6 > "DNA" theme was a combination of Blender and Photoshop/GIMP. > Have also installed gimp, inkscape, makehuman (fedora) , and Povray (atrmps, why not in fedora?) 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From duffy at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 18 14:09:57 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:09:57 -0400 Subject: F7 Art Programs Used? In-Reply-To: <1205848034.5738.5.camel@frank-01> References: <1205841695.3260.2.camel@frank-01> <47DFC0FE.6090205@nicubunu.ro> <1205848034.5738.5.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47DFCD35.9080606@fedoraproject.org> Frank Murphy wrote: > On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 15:17 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> Frank Murphy wrote: >>> Can someone lmk, what apps were used for the background? >> Are you asking about Fedora 7 and the Flying High theme? That was made >> with Photoshop (don't ask :p ) by Diana, who is no longer with us (GIMP >> can open .psd files). > > I'm asking because my brain seems to see 3d, rather than 2d, > and if I can swing fedora 3d apps to my use, 3d wouldn't be dismissed > out ofhand? > Absolutely, feel free to experiment with Blender and the other 3d tools offerred in Fedora. There's nothing against 3D artwork in Fedora :) The F7 artwork isn't 3d though, it's a layered photomanipulation which is easy enough to do with the Gimp. The F6 artwork as Nicu mentioned makes use of 3D art that Mola created in Blender. > >> For ulterior versions (F8, F9) it mostly Inkscape and GIMP. Note that >> some other applications where used and probably will be used, the F6 >> "DNA" theme was a combination of Blender and Photoshop/GIMP. >> > > Have also installed gimp, inkscape, makehuman (fedora) , > and Povray (atrmps, why not in fedora?) Not sure why Povray is not in Fedora :( > > So will work on some stuff 3d based :) (foss) Great!!! ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Mar 18 14:26:16 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:26:16 +0200 Subject: F7 Art Programs Used? In-Reply-To: <47DFCD35.9080606@fedoraproject.org> References: <1205841695.3260.2.camel@frank-01> <47DFC0FE.6090205@nicubunu.ro> <1205848034.5738.5.camel@frank-01> <47DFCD35.9080606@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47DFD108.3090806@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: >> I'm asking because my brain seems to see 3d, rather than 2d, >> and if I can swing fedora 3d apps to my use, 3d wouldn't be dismissed >> out ofhand? >> > Absolutely, feel free to experiment with Blender and the other 3d tools > offerred in Fedora. There's nothing against 3D artwork in Fedora :) > > The F7 artwork isn't 3d though, it's a layered photomanipulation which > is easy enough to do with the Gimp. The F6 artwork as Nicu mentioned > makes use of 3D art that Mola created in Blender. References: - F7 background: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fedora_7_Desktop.png - was made using photo manipulation: http://www.isity.net/blog/?p=58 - F6 Blender: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fedora_Core_6_Desktop.png >>> For ulterior versions (F8, F9) it mostly Inkscape and GIMP. Note that >>> some other applications where used and probably will be used, the F6 >>> "DNA" theme was a combination of Blender and Photoshop/GIMP. >>> >> >> Have also installed gimp, inkscape, makehuman (fedora) , and Povray >> (atrmps, why not in fedora?) > > Not sure why Povray is not in Fedora :( Frank, you may want to ask about Povray in the development list >> So will work on some stuff 3d based :) (foss) > > Great!!! Yeah, we kind of lack expertise with 3D. Mola is so far our local "authority" in the field http://mola-mp.deviantart.com/gallery/ -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Mar 18 14:38:13 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:38:13 +0200 Subject: Waves Message-ID: <47DFD3D5.6050205@nicubunu.ro> Digging some old F7 stuff I stumbled over this image, which look strikingly fitting with the "Waves" concept: http://www.isity.net/blog/?p=49 Do you remember it? Despite all the baggage, it is a cool piece of photography and photo manipulation. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From ianweller at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 16:29:00 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:29:00 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Waves In-Reply-To: <47DFD3D5.6050205@nicubunu.ro> References: <47DFD3D5.6050205@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Digging some old F7 stuff I stumbled over this image, which look > strikingly fitting with the "Waves" concept: http://www.isity.net/blog/?p=49 > Do you remember it? > > Despite all the baggage, it is a cool piece of photography and photo > manipulation. It might be fun to include in the distribution. Not sure if we can, of course. ;) -- ian From frankly3d at gmail.com Tue Mar 18 19:09:16 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:09:16 +0000 Subject: Where to ask for Help? Message-ID: <1205867356.4936.0.camel@frank-01> Sorry for the bandwidth. Who can I get some help\advice from about getting apps Firstly into rpms (fedora specs), and, eventually into Fedora Project, as they mature. Looking at : http://graphics.uni-konstanz.de/~luft/ivy_generator/ http://innerworld.sourceforge.net/index.html Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 18 20:10:43 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:40:43 +0530 Subject: Where to ask for Help? In-Reply-To: <1205867356.4936.0.camel@frank-01> References: <1205867356.4936.0.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47E021C3.3070309@fedoraproject.org> Frank Murphy wrote: > Sorry for the bandwidth. > > Who can I get some help\advice from about getting apps > Firstly into rpms (fedora specs), > and, > eventually into Fedora Project, as they mature. > > Looking at : > http://graphics.uni-konstanz.de/~luft/ivy_generator/ > > http://innerworld.sourceforge.net/index.html > If you wiki access, add them to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WishList If you want to maintain them yourself, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join Rahul From duffy at redhat.com Wed Mar 19 14:09:09 2008 From: duffy at redhat.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 10:09:09 -0400 Subject: art team status Message-ID: <47E11E85.9050501@redhat.com> Hi folks, I've had some things on my mind and I wanted to share them with you I guess as a sort of status report: 1) F9 default theme The final deadline was last Thursday and it seems Waves is closer to the requirements than Shoowa, so it seems fair to give Waves the nod. Is this okay? We definitely have some gaps to fill; I think the two major ones right now is the anaconda banner and the GNOME and KDE splashes. Ian has been doing some great work with the various time-of-day wallpapers; a little more tweaking and they'll be ready for the release candidate. When the release candidate comes out, we should make an effort to get feedback about it to make any final needed tweaks for the final release. 2) Granting art group access in the account system It seems we all agree that the proposed requirements for gaining art group access in the account system are fair, so what I'd like to do is rewrite the joining the fedora art team section of our main wiki page, and then start going through the current art group members list, contacting folks, and deleting the accounts of those who don't respond within let's say two weeks and those who indicate they are no longer interested in contributing to the team. If you'd like to help with this let me know! 3) Painless Releases Meeting Various team leads are meeting today to discuss improving our release plans / communication to make each Fedora release as painless as possible, and I'm representing the art team at this meeting. If you have particular concerns I can make sure to bring them up; I guess I should have brought the meeting up earlier (sorry :(). Let me know anyway and I will make sure they are heard. One thing I am going to suggest is that we decide on a codename for the next release a little bit earlier; the 'sulphur' codename was decided after we had already reached round 2 of our theme process. 4) F9 Beta Banner We'll need this by tomorrow. I'm thinking of maybe just grabbing the alpha banner, replacing alpha with beta, and coloring the background more blue. If anyone else wants to take this item and be a bit more creative with it, please feel free though! 5) Linux action podcast interview The Linux action podcast folks approached me yesterday and asked if I would be willing to interview with them about the F9 artwork. (these are the guys that reviewed f8's artwork by saying it was 'ugly ugly ugly') I agreed so the interview is going to take place today. I'll let you know how it goes (although I will admit I really do not have a good feeling about it.) Let me know if you have anything to add. ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Mar 19 15:05:19 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:05:19 +0200 Subject: art team status In-Reply-To: <47E11E85.9050501@redhat.com> References: <47E11E85.9050501@redhat.com> Message-ID: <47E12BAF.5040208@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > 1) F9 default theme > > The final deadline was last Thursday and it seems Waves is closer to the > requirements than Shoowa, so it seems fair to give Waves the nod. Is > this okay? We definitely have some gaps to fill; I think the two major > ones right now is the anaconda banner and the GNOME and KDE splashes. > Ian has been doing some great work with the various time-of-day > wallpapers; a little more tweaking and they'll be ready for the release > candidate. Which splashes are not that big: at least the GNOME splash is well hidden and not used by default. We can do also a (un)lock screen, but neither that is that important (not enabled by default) > When the release candidate comes out, we should make an effort to get > feedback about it to make any final needed tweaks for the final release. > > 2) Granting art group access in the account system With my newly acquired sponsor hat on: what we do with pending approval requests? I see 5 such requests in the queue (and none of those names are familiar to me), we'll send an email to them asking for introduction on the mailing list? Ask also for a small task as discussed last week? > 3) Painless Releases Meeting > > Various team leads are meeting today to discuss improving our release > plans / communication to make each Fedora release as painless as > possible, and I'm representing the art team at this meeting. If you have > particular concerns I can make sure to bring them up; I guess I should > have brought the meeting up earlier (sorry :(). Let me know anyway and I > will make sure they are heard. One thing I am going to suggest is that > we decide on a codename for the next release a little bit earlier; the > 'sulphur' codename was decided after we had already reached round 2 of > our theme process. Indeed, this time the release was chosen earlier but not early enough for our process. Maybe can we also adjust our rounds a bit? Anyway, it would help to know at least when the new codename will be announced and plan our schedule accordingly. > 4) F9 Beta Banner > > We'll need this by tomorrow. I'm thinking of maybe just grabbing the > alpha banner, replacing alpha with beta, and coloring the background > more blue. If anyone else wants to take this item and be a bit more > creative with it, please feel free though! That would be good enough. > 5) Linux action podcast interview > > The Linux action podcast folks approached me yesterday and asked if I > would be willing to interview with them about the F9 artwork. (these are > the guys that reviewed f8's artwork by saying it was 'ugly ugly ugly') I > agreed so the interview is going to take place today. I'll let you know > how it goes (although I will admit I really do not have a good feeling > about it.) Do not take this the wrong way: you have a tendency to be a little to aggressive when faced with trolls, try to not feed them. I am eagerly awaiting to hear the podcast... > Let me know if you have anything to add. 6) Media CD/DVD labes. I have an idea about this, will try to get something, but everybody is invited to play. 7) Release counter The counter for the F8 release was a good idea, we need to to that again. Maybe talk on the release meeting about the need to firmly know the exact release date a few weeks in advance for this counter to be effective. This time we have more time, maybe we can code the counter in advance and have something dynamic and easily included in other websites. I am sure there are more things to add... -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From jonrob at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 19 15:45:27 2008 From: jonrob at fedoraproject.org (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:45:27 -0600 Subject: art team status In-Reply-To: <47E11E85.9050501@redhat.com> References: <47E11E85.9050501@redhat.com> Message-ID: > 5) Linux action podcast interview > > The Linux action podcast folks approached me yesterday and asked if I > would be willing to interview with them about the F9 artwork. (these are > the guys that reviewed f8's artwork by saying it was 'ugly ugly ugly') I > agreed so the interview is going to take place today. I'll let you know > how it goes (although I will admit I really do not have a good feeling > about it.) Good luck with that! Jon From hiran.v at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 15:50:26 2008 From: hiran.v at gmail.com (H) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:50:26 +0000 Subject: What I can do in F arts? Message-ID: <1b6e7c770803190850h6bdfe17bkcf9980903091eb5d@mail.gmail.com> I am Hiran Venugopalan. hiraneffects.blogspot.com As per the suggestion of Duffy (mizmo) whom I met at foss.in/07 who told me to mail to the list telling about me and my interest. Its my first trail to write about myself, hence slightly exaggerated. I am a GNU user for past 5 years. Loves cryptography, calligraphy, designing, GUI layout designing, Python, Inkscape and GIMP. I am an engineering student from India. In FOSS i am being there as a core developer of Swathanthra Malayalam Computing, the Malayalam Computing team [smc.org.in]. I participated GSoC/2007 for a designing Unicode font in Malayalam. Also I have done some more fonts and worked for patching Lohit, Samyak Malayalam fonts (default Malayalam fonts in Fedora). My plan to contribute in Fedora is as a font designer, GUI layout designer (for tools and website), and artist (though i am not). My fonts : Dyuthi [malayalam and Latin glyphs Link : http://hiran.v.googlepages.com/Dyuthi3.ttf ] Perizia [asymmetric Latin glyphs : http://hiran.v.googlepages.com/Perizia.ttf ] and now on working of Lithu [Handwriting of my classmate 'lithu', Screenshot : http://hiran.v.googlepages.com/screennfont.png ] and two more malayalam fonts. All fonts under GNU GPL v3+ font exception. And had did some screens, designs, logos, gdm etc So what all I can do for F arts? Also do comment on my fonts. I have signed CLA. My PGP key is available at http://hiran.v.googlepages.com/HiranVenugopalan.asc -- H hiraneffects.blogspot.com | 91.9846951870 | IRC Nick/ Freenode :HFactor [ c u @ #smc-project | #sugar | #python] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I see 5 such requests in the queue (and none of those names > are familiar to me), we'll send an email to them asking for introduction > on the mailing list? Ask also for a small task as discussed last week? Yeh, this sounds like a good idea. We should draft a standard email to send to art group requesters asking for an introduction and completion of a small task with pointers to the design queue or mailing list for task assignment. > >> 3) Painless Releases Meeting > Indeed, this time the release was chosen earlier but not early enough > for our process. Maybe can we also adjust our rounds a bit? > Anyway, it would help to know at least when the new codename will be > announced and plan our schedule accordingly. Definitely, we could shift our schedule according to it as well. >> 5) Linux action podcast interview > Do not take this the wrong way: you have a tendency to be a little to > aggressive when faced with trolls, try to not feed them. > I am eagerly awaiting to hear the podcast... lol, I definitely can't argue against that, I'll try to be tame ;) > >> Let me know if you have anything to add. > > 6) Media CD/DVD labes. > > I have an idea about this, will try to get something, but everybody is > invited to play. Awesome! Look forward to seeing this :) The wolf you did for the F8 labels was great. > 7) Release counter > > The counter for the F8 release was a good idea, we need to to that > again. Maybe talk on the release meeting about the need to firmly know > the exact release date a few weeks in advance for this counter to be > effective. > This time we have more time, maybe we can code the counter in advance > and have something dynamic and easily included in other websites. Ah I completely forgot about this - great idea, I will be sure to bring it up! ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Mar 19 16:14:49 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:14:49 +0200 Subject: What I can do in F arts? In-Reply-To: <1b6e7c770803190850h6bdfe17bkcf9980903091eb5d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1b6e7c770803190850h6bdfe17bkcf9980903091eb5d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47E13BF9.80801@nicubunu.ro> H wrote: > I am Hiran Venugopalan. hiraneffects.blogspot.com > As per the suggestion of Duffy (mizmo) whom I met at foss.in/07 > who told me to mail to the list telling about me and > my interest. Its my first trail to write about myself, hence slightly > exaggerated. Hi and welcome! > I am a GNU user for past 5 years. Loves cryptography, calligraphy, > designing, GUI layout designing, Python, Inkscape and GIMP. I am an > engineering student from India. In FOSS i am being there as a core > developer of Swathanthra Malayalam Computing, the Malayalam Computing > team [smc.org.in ]. I participated GSoC/2007 for a > designing Unicode font in Malayalam. Also I have done some more fonts > and worked for patching Lohit, Samyak Malayalam fonts (default > Malayalam fonts in Fedora). My plan to contribute in Fedora is as a font > designer, GUI layout designer (for tools and website), and artist > (though i am not). We have an open list with requests: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService If you find something interesting there, feel free to give a try (but I am sure Mo told you already about those). > My fonts : Dyuthi [malayalam and Latin glyphs Link : > http://hiran.v.googlepages.com/Dyuthi3.ttf ] Perizia [asymmetric Latin > glyphs : http://hiran.v.googlepages.com/Perizia.ttf ] and now on working > of Lithu [Handwriting of my classmate 'lithu', Screenshot : > http://hiran.v.googlepages.com/screennfont.png ] and two more malayalam > fonts. All fonts under GNU GPL v3+ font exception. And had did some > screens, designs, logos, gdm etc There is a special Fonts SIG: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts (some people are both on Art and Fonts), maybe there is a better place to get feed-back about fonts? > So what all I can do for F arts? Also do comment on my fonts. > I have signed CLA. My PGP key is available at > http://hiran.v.googlepages.com/HiranVenugopalan.asc -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From hiran.v at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 16:35:27 2008 From: hiran.v at gmail.com (H) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:35:27 +0000 Subject: What I can do in F arts? In-Reply-To: <47E13BF9.80801@nicubunu.ro> References: <1b6e7c770803190850h6bdfe17bkcf9980903091eb5d@mail.gmail.com> <47E13BF9.80801@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1b6e7c770803190935s285ef4c0le908a790221fe468@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > H wrote: > > We have an open list with requests: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService > If you find something interesting there, feel free to give a try (but I > am sure Mo told you already about those). I saw, and will work on some and will mail to group within a week. > > There is a special Fonts SIG: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Fonts > Thanks. Will try there too! > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro Saw your /inkscape_face_draw/ its great, i made a small trail now. Needs to modify, smooth and polish! The beta is http://hiran.v.googlepages.com/mebeta.png (Actually I am : http://hiran.v.googlepages.com/hiran.jpg) -- H WARNING :The opinions expressed above are yours. They are not necessarily those of my employer or myself. hiraneffects.blogspot.com | 91.9846951870 | IRC Nick/ Freenode :HFactor [ c u @ #smc-project | #sugar | #python] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ianweller at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 17:32:09 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:32:09 -0500 (CDT) Subject: art team status In-Reply-To: <47E11E85.9050501@redhat.com> References: <47E11E85.9050501@redhat.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > 1) F9 default theme > > The final deadline was last Thursday and it seems Waves is closer to the > requirements than Shoowa, so it seems fair to give Waves the nod. Is > this okay? We definitely have some gaps to fill; I think the two major > ones right now is the anaconda banner and the GNOME and KDE splashes. > Ian has been doing some great work with the various time-of-day > wallpapers; a little more tweaking and they'll be ready for the release > candidate. :) > > When the release candidate comes out, we should make an effort to get > feedback about it to make any final needed tweaks for the final release. Sounds good. > > 2) Granting art group access in the account system > > It seems we all agree that the proposed requirements for gaining art > group access in the account system are fair, so what I'd like to do is > rewrite the joining the fedora art team section of our main wiki page, > and then start going through the current art group members list, > contacting folks, and deleting the accounts of those who don't respond > within let's say two weeks and those who indicate they are no longer > interested in contributing to the team. If you'd like to help with this > let me know! I'd like to help with whatever needs done. > > 4) F9 Beta Banner > > We'll need this by tomorrow. I'm thinking of maybe just grabbing the > alpha banner, replacing alpha with beta, and coloring the background > more blue. If anyone else wants to take this item and be a bit more > creative with it, please feel free though! Sounds good. -- ian From kevin.kofler at chello.at Wed Mar 19 19:53:45 2008 From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: art team status References: <47E11E85.9050501@redhat.com> <47E12BAF.5040208@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: Nicu Buculei nicubunu.ro> writes: > Which splashes are not that big: at least the GNOME splash is well > hidden and not used by default. The KDE splash screen is enabled by default. Kevin Kofler From kevin.kofler at chello.at Wed Mar 19 19:58:10 2008 From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:58:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Anyone working on Waves GDM/KDM theme? Message-ID: Is anyone working on a display manager theme for Waves yet? For F7 and F8, we (KDE SIG) have ported the GDM themes to KDM, but I don't see any GDM theme on the F9 final artwork page yet. To anyone working on this: be warned that both GDM and KDM changed significantly between F8 and F9, so please don't design against the F8 versions. Kevin Kofler From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 19 20:09:26 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:39:26 +0530 Subject: Anyone working on Waves GDM/KDM theme? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47E172F6.3030707@fedoraproject.org> Kevin Kofler wrote: > Is anyone working on a display manager theme for Waves yet? For F7 and F8, we > (KDE SIG) have ported the GDM themes to KDM, but I don't see any GDM theme on > the F9 final artwork page yet. > > To anyone working on this: be warned that both GDM and KDM changed > significantly between F8 and F9, so please don't design against the F8 > versions. Atleast for GDM, there is no requirement for any separate theme under the new design IIUC. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2008-February/msg00042.html KDE SIG probably would have to do its own thing. Rahul From kevin.kofler at chello.at Thu Mar 20 01:28:57 2008 From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:28:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Anyone working on Waves GDM/KDM theme? References: <47E172F6.3030707@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: Rahul Sundaram fedoraproject.org> writes: > Atleast for GDM, there is no requirement for any separate theme under > the new design IIUC. Oh great, KDE 4 did some incompatible KDM theme syntax changes in part to be more compatible with GDM themes (see e.g. http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=743596 ), and now GDM gets rewritten throwing their theme syntax out entirely. :-( Don't you love inter-project communication? :-( > KDE SIG probably would have to do its own thing. Fun... Something tells me we'll have to ship F9 with the default upstream "circles" theme... (We can't even use the old Fedora themes without porting them because KDE 4 KDM doesn't accept KDE 3 KDM themes.) Kevin Kofler From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Thu Mar 20 02:49:57 2008 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:49:57 -0400 Subject: Anyone working on Waves GDM/KDM theme? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1205981397.47e1d0d5d1157@ssl.mecca.ca> Quoting Kevin Kofler : > Is anyone working on a display manager theme for Waves yet? For F7 and F8, we > (KDE SIG) have ported the GDM themes to KDM, but I don't see any GDM theme on > the F9 final artwork page yet. > > To anyone working on this: be warned that both GDM and KDM changed > significantly between F8 and F9, so please don't design against the F8 > versions. > > Kevin Kofler What are the major change? It would be nice if you listed the features changed from these desktop managers. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Thu Mar 20 03:01:40 2008 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:01:40 -0400 Subject: art team status In-Reply-To: <47E11E85.9050501@redhat.com> References: <47E11E85.9050501@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1205982100.47e1d39452216@ssl.mecca.ca> Quoting M?ir?n Duffy : > Hi folks, > > I've had some things on my mind and I wanted to share them with you I > guess as a sort of status report: > > 1) F9 default theme > > The final deadline was last Thursday and it seems Waves is closer to the > requirements than Shoowa, so it seems fair to give Waves the nod. Is > this okay? We definitely have some gaps to fill; I think the two major > ones right now is the anaconda banner and the GNOME and KDE splashes. > Ian has been doing some great work with the various time-of-day > wallpapers; a little more tweaking and they'll be ready for the release > candidate. No objection. I was myself surprised Shoowa theme reached that far third round even though I was not able to complete it before the deadline. Spring break just started too late. I work on Wave theme by bringing some elements from the Shoowa. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga From ivazqueznet at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 03:21:34 2008 From: ivazqueznet at gmail.com (Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:21:34 -0400 Subject: art team status In-Reply-To: <47E12BAF.5040208@nicubunu.ro> References: <47E11E85.9050501@redhat.com> <47E12BAF.5040208@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1205983294.16234.1.camel@ignacio.lan> On Wed, 2008-03-19 at 17:05 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > 6) Media CD/DVD labes. > > I have an idea about this, will try to get something, but everybody is > invited to play. Artistically-challenged me was just going to replace the werewolf with the burning sulfur, scaled up (and post LightScribe results of it). -- Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams PLEASE don't CC me; I'm already subscribed -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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My work can be viewed at http://kde-look.org/usermanager/search.php?username=thebadapples&action=contents&PHPSESSID=d29b46ed99606e7d54f88f2bb1faafe8 http://www.thebadapples.info I'm eager to take on some stuff that needs to get done in the Fedora art world, and I'm excited to get Fedora 9 KDE out of alpha and onto people's computers!! (but most especially mine) That's it. -klaatu -- --- use linux. support free software. subscribe to http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: sig.asc URL: From kevin.kofler at chello.at Thu Mar 20 06:52:28 2008 From: kevin.kofler at chello.at (Kevin Kofler) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 06:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Anyone working on Waves GDM/KDM theme? References: <1205981397.47e1d0d5d1157@ssl.mecca.ca> Message-ID: Luya Tshimbalanga thefinalzone.com> writes: > What are the major change? It would be nice if you listed the features > changed from these desktop managers. I can't say much about GDM, other than that it was completely rewritten and appears to not use themes at all. For KDM, the documentation for creating themes for the KDE 4 version is here: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-workspace/kdm/kdm-themes.html and the referenced DTD is there: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/4.0/kdebase/workspace/kdm/kfrontend/themes/greeter.dtd?revision=757128&view=markup Unfortunately, there was essentially no documentation at all for the KDE 3 KDM themes, so it isn't easy to see what changed from that documentation. The way I ported the F7 and F8 GDM themes to KDM was that I looked at other themes and copied what they used. Kevin Kofler From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 20 08:24:38 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:24:38 +0200 Subject: What I can do in F arts? In-Reply-To: <1b6e7c770803190935s285ef4c0le908a790221fe468@mail.gmail.com> References: <1b6e7c770803190850h6bdfe17bkcf9980903091eb5d@mail.gmail.com> <47E13BF9.80801@nicubunu.ro> <1b6e7c770803190935s285ef4c0le908a790221fe468@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47E21F46.3030806@nicubunu.ro> H wrote: > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro > > Saw your /inkscape_face_draw/ its great, i made a small trail now. Needs > to modify, smooth and polish! > The beta is http://hiran.v.googlepages.com/mebeta.png (Actually I am : > http://hiran.v.googlepages.com/hiran.jpg) Cool man! This is nice, you have to add some lights and shadows and the drawing would be pretty good. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 20 08:46:42 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:46:42 +0200 Subject: newcomer intro In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47E22472.5040508@nicubunu.ro> Klaatu and Gort wrote: > Hello Fedora Art team. I'd like to introduce myself so that I can > start getting involved with the Fedora artwork. Hi Klaatu and welcome! > My name's Klaatu, and I'm a video editor and graphic designer by > trade, a Linux geek by hobby. Once fooled into paying real money to > get a Photoshop certification, I'm now an avid user and fan/promoter > of the GIMP...and slowly coming to terms with Inkscape... > > I'm eager to take on some stuff that needs to get done in the Fedora > art world, and I'm excited to get Fedora 9 KDE out of alpha and onto > people's computers!! (but most especially mine) We have a list of open tasks, see if you are interested in something there: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService Also, as you are interested in KDE, you may want to try your hand at creating a KDE splash screen for the Suplhur theme: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From gerold at lugd.org Thu Mar 20 09:03:19 2008 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:03:19 +0100 (CET) Subject: F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final In-Reply-To: <47E22472.5040508@nicubunu.ro> References: <47E22472.5040508@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <3533.217.162.12.42.1206003799.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Hi all, I know, you love me all, with my "wonderful ideas" *g* I saw the page and I must say, I'll love the F9 Background changing with the daytime ... Please, only a thinking of mine and not sure this is doable :-/ I thought about one thing: Let's "burn" sulphur for a day! on the morning time, the sulphur will be starting burning with a small flame which grows over the day and goes down again in the direction of the night .... ... and then @ night, the boulder of sulphur should glow maybe also with different intensity ... What do you think???? I'm really sure for me it isn't doable because it's more than a challenge; for the artwork Team it is doable to create the backgrounds ... ... but is this idea kindly? regards gerold From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 20 09:48:41 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:48:41 +0200 Subject: Sulfuric waves CD/DVD labels Message-ID: <47E232F9.6060903@nicubunu.ro> Here is a first try on media labels: - based on the various requests received in past releases (easy print), here is a *very simplified* attempt: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/cdart/sulphur/cdlabel_sulf1.png - it can be turned easily is something usable for LightScribe: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/cdart/sulphur/cdlabel_sulf2.png - and, obviously, something that everyone expects: the standard wallpaper image clipped with a CD label shape and with the legal disclaimer added (working with the source is quite CPU intensive) http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/cdart/sulphur/cdlabel_sulf3.png note: the sources are in the same place, replace .png with .svg -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 20 11:37:36 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:37:36 +0200 Subject: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System In-Reply-To: <47D80903.3060009@fedoraproject.org> References: <47D80903.3060009@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47E24C80.1040501@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi folks, > > Do you think it would be fair to require folks applying for art accounts > to post a self-introduction to the list? How about complete at least one > minor design task? (EG hackergotchi or banner design off the design queue?) Here is a first draft (it probably could use corrections from a native English speaker) for the message to be sent to people who requested membership and have not been accepted yet: ========================================================================= Hi [name], I am [name], one of the sponsors or the Art group in the Fedora Account system (FAS). I write to you as a follow-up to your request to join our group. We receive a lot of such requests, some of them coming from people unknown to us or inactive in the Art Team. If you want to join this group, please subscribe to the Fedora-Art mailing list [1] and write a small introduction,allowing us to know you. Also if you want to show us your capabilities, please have a look at our jobs queue [2] try to accomplish an open task from there and post it to the list. Note that if you will not act in any way, after 2 weeks your request will be deleted automatically. Be aware that membership in the Art group of the FAS is not a requirement to participate in the project, to post or answer questions on the mailing list, on IRC or to use the Wiki, it is a privilege granted to established contributors. [1] - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/ [2] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService ========================================================================= I think the message for current but inactive or unknown members can be similar (modeled by the same structure). There is a category of existing members on which I am not sure how to act: people active in general in the Fedora project, members in other groups of the FAS (for example in the Ambassadors group) but not active in Art. I am not sure how/if the Art membership is useful to them (or not useful to us) but I also do not want to kick them out, they are our colleagues. There is also a category: "former Red Hat employees who left Red Hat and Fedora and will never come back (we know that as a fact since the way they left)" (wow! how lame am I to create such a category for only one person only not to name her :D). I think in such case I can delete on the spot, right? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From ianweller at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 15:47:39 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:47:39 -0500 (CDT) Subject: F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final In-Reply-To: <3533.217.162.12.42.1206003799.squirrel@www.gbc.net> References: <47E22472.5040508@nicubunu.ro> <3533.217.162.12.42.1206003799.squirrel@www.gbc.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Gerold wrote: > Hi all, > > I know, you love me all, with my "wonderful ideas" *g* > > I saw the page and I must say, I'll love the F9 Background changing with > the daytime ... > > Please, only a thinking of mine and not sure this is doable :-/ > I thought about one thing: Let's "burn" sulphur for a day! > > on the morning time, the sulphur will be starting burning with a small > flame which grows over the day and goes down again in the direction of the > night .... > ... and then @ night, the boulder of sulphur should glow maybe also with > different intensity ... > > What do you think???? > > I'm really sure for me it isn't doable because it's more than a challenge; > for the artwork Team it is doable to create the backgrounds ... > ... but is this idea kindly? > > regards > > gerold This idea came up a week or two ago in the IRC channel, and I'm not sure where the idea went, but I think the decision was that it was a bit complex. Of course, anyone else on this list could say I'm wrong. ;) -- ian From ianweller at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 15:49:24 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:49:24 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Sulfuric waves CD/DVD labels In-Reply-To: <47E232F9.6060903@nicubunu.ro> References: <47E232F9.6060903@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Here is a first try on media labels: > > - based on the various requests received in past releases (easy print), > here is a *very simplified* attempt: > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/cdart/sulphur/cdlabel_sulf1.png > > - it can be turned easily is something usable for LightScribe: > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/cdart/sulphur/cdlabel_sulf2.png I absolutely love the outlines of the fire... :D > > - and, obviously, something that everyone expects: the standard > wallpaper image clipped with a CD label shape and with the legal > disclaimer added (working with the source is quite CPU intensive) > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/cdart/sulphur/cdlabel_sulf3.png > > note: the sources are in the same place, replace .png with .svg Nice work. I can't necessarily decide between the two basic designs, I think the outline would look cooler on print, but I'm still not sure if anyone would quote-unquote 'get it.' -- ian From ianweller at gmail.com Thu Mar 20 16:05:06 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:05:06 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Applying to the Art group in the Accounts System In-Reply-To: <47E24C80.1040501@nicubunu.ro> References: <47D80903.3060009@fedoraproject.org> <47E24C80.1040501@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> Do you think it would be fair to require folks applying for art accounts >> to post a self-introduction to the list? How about complete at least one >> minor design task? (EG hackergotchi or banner design off the design queue?) > > Here is a first draft (it probably could use corrections from a native > English speaker) for the message to be sent to people who requested > membership and have not been accepted yet: > > ========================================================================= > Hi [name], > > I am [name], one of the sponsors or the Art group in the Fedora Account > system (FAS). > > I write to you as a follow-up to your request to join our group. We > receive a lot of such requests, some of them coming from people unknown > to us or inactive in the Art Team. > > If you want to join this group, please subscribe to the Fedora-Art > mailing list [1] and write a small introduction,allowing us to know you. > Also if you want to show us your capabilities, please have a look at our > jobs queue [2] try to accomplish an open task from there and post it to > the list. > > Note that if you will not act in any way, after 2 weeks your request > will be deleted automatically. > > Be aware that membership in the Art group of the FAS is not a > requirement to participate in the project, to post or answer questions > on the mailing list, on IRC or to use the Wiki, it is a privilege > granted to established contributors. > > > [1] - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/ > [2] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService > ========================================================================= Works for me. If I got that email I'd get off my butt and do something! ;) > > I think the message for current but inactive or unknown members can be > similar (modeled by the same structure). > > There is a category of existing members on which I am not sure how to > act: people active in general in the Fedora project, members in other > groups of the FAS (for example in the Ambassadors group) but not active > in Art. I am not sure how/if the Art membership is useful to them (or > not useful to us) but I also do not want to kick them out, they are our > colleagues. If they're part of Fedora by now, they should know the rules... > > There is also a category: "former Red Hat employees who left Red Hat and > Fedora and will never come back (we know that as a fact since the way > they left)" (wow! how lame am I to create such a category for only one > person only not to name her :D). I think in such case I can delete on > the spot, right? In the one case, I'd say yes, but don't base it off my decision ;) -- ian From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 20 16:19:52 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:19:52 +0200 Subject: Sulfuric waves CD/DVD labels In-Reply-To: References: <47E232F9.6060903@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47E28EA8.50706@nicubunu.ro> Ian Weller wrote: > > Nice work. I can't necessarily decide between the two basic designs, I > think the outline would look cooler on print, but I'm still not sure if > anyone would quote-unquote 'get it.' In fact for F8 we had two different designs: http://mihmo.livejournal.com/48971.html And look here how someone used the LightScribe verision: http://ivazquez.livejournal.com/3143.html The thing is, media labels are not official part of the distro, we put them on the wiki and they can be used by anyone who want in any way he want. So we can have multiple versions. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Thu Mar 20 23:57:18 2008 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gian Paolo Mureddu) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:57:18 -0600 Subject: Self introduction. Message-ID: <47E2F9DE.2080405@prodigy.net.mx> Hi all, My name is Gian Paolo Mureddu, a long time Fedora user and fan of the distribution. I've always liked graphics arts, but lack the skill. However, through the use of Open Source tools such as ImageMagick, GIMP, Inkscape and a few others, I have had the chance to experiment with the "creative me". I still lack a lot of skill, but I'd like to at least help the artwork team with some opinions and "critique" (mostly appreciation), and maybe ask a few tips here and there. From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Fri Mar 21 00:20:00 2008 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gian Paolo Mureddu) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:20:00 -0600 Subject: Color management in Fedora 8 Message-ID: <47E2FF30.2040508@prodigy.net.mx> Hi list, new here. I'm terribly sorry if this has been asked previously, but it is a bit of a pain searching the archives (unless there is a better way than browsing each month and trying to search within the thread list with the browser's search function. At any rate, I have noticed that Fedora 8 includes a tool for color management, however I don't know how to use icc color profiles with it, etc. As I write these lines I'm reading through what I could find in Google about color management and ICC profiles to get a better understanding of it, still there is not much documentation covering Linux or free software tools. From frankly3d at gmail.com Fri Mar 21 11:33:01 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:33:01 +0000 Subject: Linux Code - Art Related Message-ID: <1206099181.5358.4.camel@frank-01> Asked here because, I know some programmers frequent. Is linux code "ones & zeroes", when you get to the bit\byte end of things. Depending on answer, will then scan in a quick doodle (very ruff), to get opinions. Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Anything going in the computer is translated to binary: operating system, executables, data. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From jonrob at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 21 12:13:31 2008 From: jonrob at fedoraproject.org (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 06:13:31 -0600 Subject: Fedora 5 Artwork Message-ID: <8fa6e6dcc1d9e7f1672afefc5eca4482@www.questionsplease.org> Hey all, Does anyone know where I could get a hold of the Fedora 5 artwork? The bubbles theme was cool :) Jon From frankly3d at gmail.com Fri Mar 21 12:14:40 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:14:40 +0000 Subject: Linux Code - Art Related In-Reply-To: <47E3A57E.8090704@nicubunu.ro> References: <1206099181.5358.4.camel@frank-01> <47E3A57E.8090704@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1206101680.6153.1.camel@frank-01> On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 14:09 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: > > Asked here because, I know some programmers frequent. > > > > Is linux code "ones & zeroes", when you get to the bit\byte end of > > things. > > > > > > Depending on answer, will then scan in a quick doodle (very ruff), > > to get opinions. > > Sorry but I don't understand the question... can you elaborate? I believe all code ends up as 10101010, in various combinations? > > Anything going in the computer is translated to binary: operating > system, executables, data. > 1010101 = binary? 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Mar 21 12:22:26 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:22:26 +0200 Subject: Linux Code - Art Related In-Reply-To: <1206101680.6153.1.camel@frank-01> References: <1206099181.5358.4.camel@frank-01> <47E3A57E.8090704@nicubunu.ro> <1206101680.6153.1.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47E3A882.8090505@nicubunu.ro> Frank Murphy wrote: > On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 14:09 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> Frank Murphy wrote: >>> Asked here because, I know some programmers frequent. >>> >>> Is linux code "ones & zeroes", when you get to the bit\byte end of >>> things. >>> >>> >>> Depending on answer, will then scan in a quick doodle (very ruff), >>> to get opinions. >> Sorry but I don't understand the question... can you elaborate? > > I believe all code ends up as 10101010, in various combinations? Yes >> Anything going in the computer is translated to binary: operating >> system, executables, data. >> > > 1010101 = binary? Yes, numbers represented in base 2 See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_numeral_system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_data http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executable_file -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Mar 21 12:28:25 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:28:25 +0200 Subject: Fedora 5 Artwork In-Reply-To: <8fa6e6dcc1d9e7f1672afefc5eca4482@www.questionsplease.org> References: <8fa6e6dcc1d9e7f1672afefc5eca4482@www.questionsplease.org> Message-ID: <47E3A9E9.5010304@nicubunu.ro> Jonathan Roberts wrote: > Hey all, Hi, > Does anyone know where I could get a hold of the Fedora 5 artwork? The > bubbles theme was cool :) Here: http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc5graphics/ However, they were made by Diana, a huge Photoshop (and other Adobe products) fan, so there you will not find any sources. However, at the time I tried to remake them, to have something freely usable, see if you can make any use of this: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/cdart/bubbles/jewel_insert_bubbles.svg (Inkscape was still in early stages then and my skills with it the same, so it is far from perfect). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From duffy at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 21 12:36:25 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:36:25 -0400 Subject: Linux Code - Art Related In-Reply-To: <1206101680.6153.1.camel@frank-01> References: <1206099181.5358.4.camel@frank-01> <47E3A57E.8090704@nicubunu.ro> <1206101680.6153.1.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47E3ABC9.1080703@fedoraproject.org> Frank Murphy wrote: > On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 14:09 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> Frank Murphy wrote: >>> Asked here because, I know some programmers frequent. >>> >>> Is linux code "ones & zeroes", when you get to the bit\byte end of >>> things. >>> >>> >>> Depending on answer, will then scan in a quick doodle (very ruff), >>> to get opinions. >> Sorry but I don't understand the question... can you elaborate? > > I believe all code ends up as 10101010, in various combinations? Yes but there's nothing Linux-specific about it. The use of binary in computer-related artwork had its heyday in 1994-1995 and is considered a bit cliche at this point. (For reference, see the movie Hackers........) ~m From frankly3d at gmail.com Fri Mar 21 12:43:08 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:43:08 +0000 Subject: Linux Code - Art Related In-Reply-To: <47E3ABC9.1080703@fedoraproject.org> References: <1206099181.5358.4.camel@frank-01> <47E3A57E.8090704@nicubunu.ro> <1206101680.6153.1.camel@frank-01> <47E3ABC9.1080703@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1206103388.7158.4.camel@frank-01> On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 08:36 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: > > I believe all code ends up as 10101010, in various combinations? > > Yes but there's nothing Linux-specific about it. > > The use of binary in computer-related artwork had its heyday in > 1994-1995 and is considered a bit cliche at this point. (For reference, > see the movie Hackers........) > > ~m It will be when finished ;) Am doodling at the mo with an peann luaidh ,will provide a link when upped to my site. Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fedora-art at brej.org Fri Mar 21 12:53:23 2008 From: fedora-art at brej.org (Charlie Brej) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:53:23 +0000 Subject: Linux Code - Art Related In-Reply-To: <1206103388.7158.4.camel@frank-01> References: <1206099181.5358.4.camel@frank-01> <47E3A57E.8090704@nicubunu.ro> <1206101680.6153.1.camel@frank-01> <47E3ABC9.1080703@fedoraproject.org> <1206103388.7158.4.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47E3AFC3.6050906@brej.org> Frank Murphy wrote: > It will be when finished ;) > > Am doodling at the mo with an peann luaidh > ,will provide a link when upped to my site. If you're interested I had the same idea but was waiting for the fedora 10 submissions page to open. At http://brej.org/test/ there is the background I have been using for a couple weeks and people around the office seem to like it. The "binary" perl script generates the svg. As the command line parameter it takes a string to show as binary. In the examples it is "Fedora 10 Fedora 10 Fedora 10 Fedora 10". From jonrob at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 21 12:53:47 2008 From: jonrob at fedoraproject.org (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 06:53:47 -0600 Subject: Fedora 5 Artwork In-Reply-To: <47E3A9E9.5010304@nicubunu.ro> References: <8fa6e6dcc1d9e7f1672afefc5eca4482@www.questionsplease.org> <47E3A9E9.5010304@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:28:25 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Jonathan Roberts wrote: >> Hey all, > > Hi, > >> Does anyone know where I could get a hold of the Fedora 5 artwork? The >> bubbles theme was cool :) > > Here: http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc5graphics/ > > However, they were made by Diana, a huge Photoshop (and other Adobe > products) fan, so there you will not find any sources. > > However, at the time I tried to remake them, to have something freely > usable, see if you can make any use of this: > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/cdart/bubbles/jewel_insert_bubbles.svg > (Inkscape was still in early stages then and my skills with it the same, > so it is far from perfect). Thanks Nicu :) Just what I was looking for! Jon From frankly3d at gmail.com Fri Mar 21 13:57:32 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:57:32 +0000 Subject: Linux Code - Art Related In-Reply-To: <47E3AFC3.6050906@brej.org> References: <1206099181.5358.4.camel@frank-01> <47E3A57E.8090704@nicubunu.ro> <1206101680.6153.1.camel@frank-01> <47E3ABC9.1080703@fedoraproject.org> <1206103388.7158.4.camel@frank-01> <47E3AFC3.6050906@brej.org> Message-ID: <1206107852.8739.3.camel@frank-01> On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 12:53 +0000, Charlie Brej wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: > > It will be when finished ;) > > > > Am doodling at the mo with an peann luaidh > > ,will provide a link when upped to my site. > > If you're interested I had the same idea but was waiting for the fedora 10 > submissions page to open. Here's the very ruff draft. http://www.frankly3d.com click on test. Apologies for quality "crap scanner" Frank -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Copy it over to > /boot/grub and rename it splash.xpm.gz (back up yer old one if you want) > and reboot to check it out in action. > > One thing to note, I did this by indexing the inkscape-exported > full-color artwork in the gimp, and indexing down to 14 colors. That was > it. I remember in the past having to add black and white to colormap > slots 0 and 1 respectively, but grub seemed to not like that this time. > If you just use the 14 color pixmap, grub seems to deal with it just fine. > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you did know, disregard this message ;) -- ian From ianweller at gmail.com Fri Mar 21 19:48:00 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:48:00 -0500 (CDT) Subject: logo and such Message-ID: I was wondering: who came up with the current Fedora logo (the f with the infinity symbol)? -- ian From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 21 19:54:43 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 01:24:43 +0530 Subject: logo and such In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47E41283.7080106@fedoraproject.org> Ian Weller wrote: > I was wondering: who came up with the current Fedora logo (the f with > the infinity symbol)? -- ian > Answered at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo Rahul From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Sat Mar 22 00:00:54 2008 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:00:54 -0500 Subject: Firefox Personas Message-ID: <47E44C36.9040306@gmail.com> It's still early in its overall development, but I think this is something that we should definitely look into. http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/12/personas-for-firefox/ Very cool potential and I'll probably be trying out a design for Fedora. For you inkscape users, there is an Inkscape podcast about creating the graphics located at http://screencasters.heathenx.org/episode-048/ -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com Sat Mar 22 07:15:47 2008 From: luya_tfz at thefinalzone.com (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:15:47 -0700 Subject: Experimenting with weekly Wake theme Message-ID: <47E4B223.4060705@thefinalzone.com> Incorporating the idea originally from Shoowa theme, I added a subtle effects on Wave theme background to represent the number of day where nothing means Sunday, one small round is Monday and more. I have used a vaccum on some svg which caused a funny effects. Note: the file is really huge (46 MB) so I have tarred them instead of putting each image separately. Luya Ref: http://luya.fedorapeople.org/packages/wave_theme.tar.bz2 From frankly3d at gmail.com Sat Mar 22 09:25:00 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:25:00 +0000 Subject: Explanation for the doodle. Message-ID: <1206177900.1391.23.camel@frank-01> Figured I would explain the doodle, why I called it test f10test. I don't want everyone to think me too presumptuous. With the 3d end of graphics, it will take a bit longer to do, to be fully true to fedora policy. Model(s) will have to be created, time consuming Rendering time: complexity\quality depending. & to me, programs new (Hence the "doodles", rather than create & be out of tune) Maybe the art-team could throw ideas, a bit earlier if 3d is thought useful. Example "World\Planet\People" theme(s), Giza\Bedouin, Great Wall\Khan(chin), Ice Berg\Inuit, etc.. how many 3d members, current\aspiring? Hope the hole hasn't got deeper. 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I have used a > vaccum on some svg which caused a funny effects. > > Note: the file is really huge (46 MB) so I have tarred them instead of > putting each image separately. > > Luya > > Ref: > http://luya.fedorapeople.org/packages/wave_theme.tar.bz2 > Hi, the funny effects you talk about is the missing sulphur stone in some of the images, or is it intentional? However, opening the affected SVGs in inkscape results in correct image, so exporting to PNG should work OK. Next, it is a real huge set of wallpapers and unless we could do some kind of diffs between the wallpapers it is far to much for being default wallpaper set (at least for Live CDs), IMHO. I also noticed the PNGs included are not sharp. How did you get them from the SVGs? Direct export from SVG (in inkscape) does not show this rather low quality rendering. And now to the general idea. I am not opposed to the idea itself, also representing Sunday as 0 is interesting, since it is start of the week for some countries, while Monday (in your counting number 1) in another ones :) But, I don't like very much how it is implemented. When I looked at thumbnails (in nautilus) at first I thought that the circles are part of the flame (you know, when part of a flame separates from the rest and flow upwards) which I thought was great idea, but actually seeing that it is more or less plain circles sort of disappointed me. Just my 2 cents, Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have used a > > vaccum on some svg which caused a funny effects. > > > > Note: the file is really huge (46 MB) so I have tarred them instead of > > putting each image separately. > > > > Luya > > > > Ref: > > http://luya.fedorapeople.org/packages/wave_theme.tar.bz2 > > > Hi, > > the funny effects you talk about is the missing sulphur stone in some of > the images, or is it intentional? However, opening the affected SVGs in > inkscape results in correct image, so exporting to PNG should work OK. Not intentional. I have saved the fine in plain SVG and used vaccum which leads to that unexpected result. > Next, it is a real huge set of wallpapers and unless we could do some > kind of diffs between the wallpapers it is far to much for being default > wallpaper set (at least for Live CDs), IMHO. Yes, I have not got time to downsampling them. > > I also noticed the PNGs included are not sharp. How did you get them > from the SVGs? Direct export from SVG (in inkscape) does not show this > rather low quality rendering. I have used ImageMagick convert function. > > And now to the general idea. I am not opposed to the idea itself, also > representing Sunday as 0 is interesting, since it is start of the week > for some countries, while Monday (in your counting number 1) in another > ones :) But, I don't like very much how it is implemented. When I looked > at thumbnails (in nautilus) at first I thought that the circles are part > of the flame (you know, when part of a flame separates from the rest and > flow upwards) which I thought was great idea, but actually seeing that > it is more or less plain circles sort of disappointed me. The concept is not fully complete hence the reason to get the svg version available for edit. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Project contributor http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga From ianweller at gmail.com Sat Mar 22 16:05:43 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:05:43 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Experimenting with weekly Wake theme In-Reply-To: <1206201716.47e52d74eb476@ssl.mecca.ca> References: <47E4B223.4060705@thefinalzone.com> <1206188612.30812.11.camel@pc-notebook> <1206201716.47e52d74eb476@ssl.mecca.ca> Message-ID: On Sat, 22 Mar 2008, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Quoting Martin Sourada : >> I also noticed the PNGs included are not sharp. How did you get them >> from the SVGs? Direct export from SVG (in inkscape) does not show this >> rather low quality rendering. > > I have used ImageMagick convert function. There is a way to use the command line to export PNGs from inkscape. Type inkscape --help at a command line for more details. -- ian From marland at mvpittman.com Sat Mar 22 23:28:53 2008 From: marland at mvpittman.com (Marland V. Pittman) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:28:53 -0400 Subject: Sulfuric waves CD/DVD labels In-Reply-To: <47E232F9.6060903@nicubunu.ro> References: <47E232F9.6060903@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1206228533.2869.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> > - and, obviously, something that everyone expects: the standard > wallpaper image clipped with a CD label shape and with the legal > disclaimer added (working with the source is quite CPU intensive) > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/cdart/sulphur/cdlabel_sulf3.png > > note: the sources are in the same place, replace .png with .svg > Worked for me... except my printouts are a bit small. Not sure if you did anything different from what Ms. Duffy did on the F8 media to make bitmap labels, but my discs came out like this: http://photos.mvpittman.com/F9_Alpha_LiveCD/00001.jpg Thanks... 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Name: sig.asc URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Mar 25 13:18:11 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:18:11 +0200 Subject: Inkscape on the installable media Message-ID: <47E8FB93.90103@nicubunu.ro> I think here is a good place to ask, as I have a good chance to get some allies, we probably use this application about daily :p Currently Inkscape is not part of any media release (for logical reasons): - it is not included on the Desktop Live CD due to space restriction (it drags some additional dependencies); - it is not included on the traditional (formerly known as "Core") image (CD/DVD), bu that media (despite being my personal favorite install source) seems neglected: very little happens with it, is "uncool", all modifications go to spins; - our own Art Studio Spin is, and will be in the foreseeable future, just a "to do" item. What I try is to get some brainstorming, and, why not, some lobbying, about how we can get it in an installable media. Preferably in due time for F9. I could probably raise the issue on the Desktop list, but I don't feel comfortable doing so unless I can't come also with a way to free some needed space on the Live CD. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From frankly3d at gmail.com Tue Mar 25 17:03:32 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:03:32 +0000 Subject: Inkscape on the installable media In-Reply-To: <47E8FB93.90103@nicubunu.ro> References: <47E8FB93.90103@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1206464612.4482.9.camel@frank-01> On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 15:18 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > I think here is a good place to ask, as I have a good chance to get some > allies, we probably use this application about daily :p > > Currently Inkscape is not part of any media release (for logical reasons): > - it is not included on the Desktop Live CD due to space restriction (it > drags some additional dependencies); > - it is not included on the traditional (formerly known as "Core") image > (CD/DVD), bu that media (despite being my personal favorite install > source) seems neglected: very little happens with it, is "uncool", all > modifications go to spins; > - our own Art Studio Spin is, and will be in the foreseeable future, > just a "to do" item. Why keep it as a to do item? Mairin's kickstart file came in at 1.1 gb, I would prefer to see it come it at cd size 650-700mb. > > What I try is to get some brainstorming, and, why not, some lobbying, > about how we can get it in an installable media. Preferably in due time > for F9. > > I could probably raise the issue on the Desktop list, but I don't feel > comfortable doing so unless I can't come also with a way to free some > needed space on the Live CD. I'd say leave d\t alone, and go all out for our own spin. Personally will be putting a new test machine over the summer maybe in line for F10. Maybe make 10 not 9 an achievable goal, with as many members as possible testing the apps that M has in the kick-start file, then cull to make a live-cd. (that could\can be made upgradable?) Take the bull by the horns, as with XFCE spin. Frank From markg85 at gmail.com Tue Mar 25 21:19:50 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:19:50 +0100 Subject: Fedora KDE splash In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6e24a8e80803251419q2615c15co5b2e2a235387bcd3@mail.gmail.com> 2008/3/25, Klaatu and Gort : > First time submitting. Forgive any noob mistakes. > > Following the overview at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemingOverview I've begun > working on the KDE side of things. > > Can't post to the wiki yet, so I'm just attaching the art files; a png > version and the svg source. > > > Suggestions? Ideas? Jokes? let me know! > > > - klaatu Looks nice! but is KDE4 supporting transparent splashes? don't know in KDE4 but it wasn't supported in KDE 3.* From gort.klaatu at gmail.com Tue Mar 25 22:19:23 2008 From: gort.klaatu at gmail.com (Klaatu and Gort) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:19:23 -0700 Subject: Fedora KDE splash In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80803251419q2615c15co5b2e2a235387bcd3@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e24a8e80803251419q2615c15co5b2e2a235387bcd3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm fairly sure KDE 4 supports what I think you're referring to. You mean how the icons load progressively across the black graphic area? If so, it definitely does this. If you're referring to something else....I still think KDE 4 supports this. I'm using KDE 4 on one of my machines and it's a pretty fancy splash screen. Either way, I'll read up on it and make changes if needed. - klaatu On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Mark wrote: > 2008/3/25, Klaatu and Gort : > > > First time submitting. Forgive any noob mistakes. > > > > Following the overview at > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemingOverview I've begun > > working on the KDE side of things. > > > > Can't post to the wiki yet, so I'm just attaching the art files; a png > > version and the svg source. > > > > > > Suggestions? Ideas? Jokes? let me know! > > > > > > - klaatu > > Looks nice! > but is KDE4 supporting transparent splashes? don't know in KDE4 but it > wasn't supported in KDE 3.* > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- --- use linux. support free software. subscribe to http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Mar 26 14:18:00 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:18:00 +0200 Subject: art team status In-Reply-To: <47E11E85.9050501@redhat.com> References: <47E11E85.9050501@redhat.com> Message-ID: <47EA5B18.70003@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > 5) Linux action podcast interview > > The Linux action podcast folks approached me yesterday and asked if I > would be willing to interview with them about the F9 artwork. (these are > the guys that reviewed f8's artwork by saying it was 'ugly ugly ugly') I > agreed so the interview is going to take place today. I'll let you know > how it goes (although I will admit I really do not have a good feeling > about it.) At last, I managed to listen to the podcast (for the interested, Mo's part starts about 25:00 minutes into the show and is about 19-20 minutes long). I think it went pretty well - http://www.linuxactionshow.com/?p=176 -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From jonrob at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 26 15:51:38 2008 From: jonrob at fedoraproject.org (Jonathan Roberts) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:51:38 -0600 Subject: art team status In-Reply-To: <47EA5B18.70003@nicubunu.ro> References: <47E11E85.9050501@redhat.com> <47EA5B18.70003@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <18cc8e9e2176e2691bd2a7f2115f3d15@www.questionsplease.org> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:18:00 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> 5) Linux action podcast interview >> >> The Linux action podcast folks approached me yesterday and asked if I >> would be willing to interview with them about the F9 artwork. (these are > >> the guys that reviewed f8's artwork by saying it was 'ugly ugly ugly') I > >> agreed so the interview is going to take place today. I'll let you know >> how it goes (although I will admit I really do not have a good feeling >> about it.) > > At last, I managed to listen to the podcast (for the interested, Mo's > part starts about 25:00 minutes into the show and is about 19-20 minutes > long). > I think it went pretty well - http://www.linuxactionshow.com/?p=176 I caught this too...great job and thanks for representing yourself, the art team, Fedora and Red Hat so well :) Jon From jakub.rusinek at gmail.com Tue Mar 25 17:14:55 2008 From: jakub.rusinek at gmail.com (Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:14:55 +0100 Subject: Inkscape on the installable media In-Reply-To: <1206464612.4482.9.camel@frank-01> References: <47E8FB93.90103@nicubunu.ro> <1206464612.4482.9.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <1206465296.2049.0.camel@fedora> I haven't seen first message of this topic, but imo, Inkscape shouldn't be on official install CD or DVD, since it requires some skills, adequate for Art spin. -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ From stlwrt at gmail.com Tue Mar 25 21:33:05 2008 From: stlwrt at gmail.com (Pavel Shevchuk) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:33:05 +0200 Subject: KSplash for KDE4, based on RHGB waves thing. RFC Message-ID: Bored with default KDE4 splash and unable to draw anything better (i'm programmer, not an artist) i created KSplashX theme out of nice RHGB svg found on wiki and stock Oxygen icons. How it is? How can it be improved? Screenshot: http://xs125.xs.to/xs125/08132/wavesplash_alpha915.png Theme tarball: http://attic.scwlab.com/Waves-ksplash.tar.bz2 P.S. Icons aren't animated yet, they just appear in order. From stlwrt at gmail.com Tue Mar 25 21:33:05 2008 From: stlwrt at gmail.com (Pavel Shevchuk) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:33:05 +0200 Subject: KSplash for KDE4, based on RHGB waves thing. RFC Message-ID: Bored with default KDE4 splash and unable to draw anything better (i'm programmer, not an artist) i created KSplashX theme out of nice RHGB svg found on wiki and stock Oxygen icons. How it is? How can it be improved? Screenshot: http://xs125.xs.to/xs125/08132/wavesplash_alpha915.png Theme tarball: http://attic.scwlab.com/Waves-ksplash.tar.bz2 P.S. Icons aren't animated yet, they just appear in order. From stlwrt at gmail.com Wed Mar 26 20:56:18 2008 From: stlwrt at gmail.com (Pavel Shevchuk) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:56:18 +0200 Subject: KDE4 splashes made out of Waves RHGB and Oxygen icons Message-ID: I made Waves splash out of recently posted Waves RHGB, but mizmo said repositioning of "Fedora" word is bad idea and suggested to make second version (Waves2) with icons on bottom. In both versions icons slide and fade in while KDE services are loaded. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: waves-ksplashx.tar.bz2 Type: application/x-bzip2 Size: 170277 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: waves2-ksplashx.tar.bz2 Type: application/x-bzip2 Size: 170985 bytes Desc: not available URL: From linux at elfshadow.net Thu Mar 27 02:38:05 2008 From: linux at elfshadow.net (Jeffrey Tadlock) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:38:05 -0400 Subject: Release Party Flyers Message-ID: <10e0a9b00803261938u242848f3re30f60e930fd218e@mail.gmail.com> Hello Art Team, FAmSCo is trying to get Ambassadors to host release parties during the first week or so of the Fedora 9 release in their area. Francesco announced the idea to the Ambassadors list here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-March/msg00145.html As part of this, I would like to make it even easier for Ambassadors by having some flyers they can download off the wiki to hang up in their area announcing their local release party (and, uh, who am I kidding - I need some flyers for the release party we are planning here in Central Ohio...). I am thinking just a one sheet flyer that we can print up and hang on University bulletin boards, coffee shop hangouts, computer stores, etc. Now, the dates will most likely vary between area for their release party date - so in order to be most useful it would be handy for the average non-art person to be able to modify the date, time, location and a little area for any special notes. Is this something someone could help me out on? Thanks! Jeffrey From gort.klaatu at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 11:02:28 2008 From: gort.klaatu at gmail.com (Klaatu and Gort) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:02:28 -0700 Subject: fedorahosted & liveUSB project Message-ID: perhaps to earn wiki edit privileges, I thought I'd take a few stabs at some the logos/designs needed on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService http://thebadapples.info/fedora/ I felt I should post this here before contacting the people who requested this art because I'm not too sure about the trademark issues for the fedorahosted.org site and would like a little input from someone who knows more about what we are allowed to do with teh fedora "f". -klaatu -- --- use linux. support free software. subscribe to http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 27 11:14:10 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:14:10 +0200 Subject: fedorahosted & liveUSB project In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47EB8182.70600@nicubunu.ro> Klaatu and Gort wrote: > perhaps to earn wiki edit privileges, I thought I'd take a few stabs > at some the logos/designs needed on Ask and you will receive! You signed the CLA and are eligible to edit the wiki. Create an account (probalby SethKenlon, to follow the rule), ping back and I will add you to the EditGroup. I approved the other day your request for membership in the Art group of the FAS based on your recent activity on the list. > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService > > http://thebadapples.info/fedora/ > > > I felt I should post this here before contacting the people who > requested this art because I'm not too sure about the trademark issues > for the fedorahosted.org site and would like a little input from > someone who knows more about what we are allowed to do with teh fedora > "f". The fedorahosted proposal *may* be outside of the logo usage guidelines. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 27 12:22:46 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:22:46 +0200 Subject: Release counter for F9 Message-ID: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> The release counter we had for F8 proved to be quite popular, so is natural to have this time another one, maybe with some improvements. With the release scheduled for April 29, about a month from now, I think it is a good time to start planning it. A first thing would be, IMO, to define when we start counting. I see two possible scenarios: either from a certain number of days in advance (30 days sounds plausible) or from the Release Candidate. For the graphics, I think we can base them on the Beta banner made by Mo [1], but we can be open for another approaches. I think is easy enough to get all the images pre-rendered in advance by the Art team and not rely on a cron job do produce them daily. Embedding in the website in another part: for F8 we had something like 01.png ... 15.png and the HTML was changed to include the proper image. I see here a lot of potential for improvement: provide something that people can include on their own pages/websites/blog and spread the waiting game all over the web. We can do that having a single image like f9counter.png updated daily, but this may not be very cache-friendly (people may get an old version from an un-updated cache), a JavaScript widget may be a better solution. Please reply on the Art list about the graphics and on the Websites list about the implementation. [1] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners#head-168c7c266a7785106cc25828a803c858cdfbe50e -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 12:37:09 2008 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:37:09 +0100 Subject: [Ambassadors] Event Flyer In-Reply-To: <1206609248.3067.1.camel@dhcp-0-189.muc.redhat.com> References: <10e0a9b00803261930s605186edy22c36b099fc129f1@mail.gmail.com> <1206609248.3067.1.camel@dhcp-0-189.muc.redhat.com> Message-ID: <64b14b300803270537x780f093dwffc315895bfacc2e@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Matthias Kranz wrote: > On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 22:30 -0400, Jeffrey Tadlock wrote: > > We were needing a flyer for an event next weekend. I took the one > > that the Fedora Malaysian Ambassadors did for Fedora Core 6 and > > updated it a bit for Fedora 8. I removed references to Core 6, added > > some of the new features in Fedora 8, modified a few of the links in > > the Getting Fedora section and added a how to contribute section. > > > > However, I am not very artistic and probably not the greatest at > > designing marketing materials. I have posted the modified version > > here: > > > > http://jeffreyt.fedorapeople.org/drafts/fedora-flyer-mod.odt > > > > Could some of the more artistically inclined, marketing oriented > > people take a look at it and make modifications as you see fit? We > > need the flyer by next weekend, so we are in a bit of a time crunch at > > this point. > > Jeffrey, > > > > might be a better place to ask. > > Cheers, > Matthias You mean fedora-artwork list? Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From mclasen at redhat.com Thu Mar 27 13:36:17 2008 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:36:17 -0400 Subject: F9 artwork Message-ID: <1206624977.3766.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hey, now that the beta is out, it is high time that we start getting the F9 artwork in place. Unfortunately, I haven't followed the discussions on this list very closely in the last weeks, so I need a quick update on where we stand wrt to F9 art. Where can I find the existing pieces, and what is still missing ? Matthias From rdieter at math.unl.edu Thu Mar 27 13:54:28 2008 From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:54:28 -0500 Subject: KDE4 ksplash: Waves References: Message-ID: Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > I made Waves splash out of recently posted Waves RHGB, but mizmo said > repositioning of "Fedora" word is bad idea and suggested to make > second version (Waves2) with icons on bottom. neat, many thanks. I'll snag this (Waves2) and put it into fedora-logos and marked as the default splash. Re: licensing The theme is currently devoid of any explicit licensing, so I'd like to solicit suggestions from the art folks here. Should we have an explicit license attributed to this work? If so, what? (Pavel sounds open to attribute it as needed). -- Rex From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 27 14:02:43 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:02:43 -0400 Subject: KDE4 ksplash: Waves In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47EBA903.9060400@fedoraproject.org> Rex Dieter wrote: > Pavel Shevchuk wrote: > >> I made Waves splash out of recently posted Waves RHGB, but mizmo said >> repositioning of "Fedora" word is bad idea and suggested to make >> second version (Waves2) with icons on bottom. > > neat, many thanks. > > I'll snag this (Waves2) and put it into fedora-logos and marked as the > default splash. > > Re: licensing > The theme is currently devoid of any explicit licensing, so I'd like to > solicit suggestions from the art folks here. Should we have an explicit > license attributed to this work? If so, what? (Pavel sounds open to > attribute it as needed). I think we're all pretty open to attribute as needed. I think in the past we've set the artwork as being GPL and also made it available under CC-BY-SA. If that makes sense here let's do it. ~m From stlwrt at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 14:13:12 2008 From: stlwrt at gmail.com (Pavel Shevchuk) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:13:12 +0200 Subject: KDE4 ksplash: Waves In-Reply-To: <47EBA903.9060400@fedoraproject.org> References: <47EBA903.9060400@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 4:02 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > I think we're all pretty open to attribute as needed. I think in the > past we've set the artwork as being GPL and also made it available under > CC-BY-SA. If that makes sense here let's do it. Both GPL and CC-BY-SA are ok for me. Thanks for feedback and ability to contribute =) From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 27 14:32:11 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:32:11 -0400 Subject: F9 artwork In-Reply-To: <1206624977.3766.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1206624977.3766.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <47EBAFEB.5060900@fedoraproject.org> Hi Matthias! Matthias Clasen wrote: > Hey, > > now that the beta is out, it is high time that we start getting the F9 > artwork in place. Unfortunately, I haven't followed the discussions on > this list very closely in the last weeks, so I need a quick update on > where we stand wrt to F9 art. Where can I find the existing pieces, and > what is still missing ? This is what we have right now: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final What's missing? - syslinux splash - anaconda banner - wallpaper xml for transitions - gnome splash (optional) - gnome screensaver lock dialog (optional) Pavel's KDE splash isn't yet on the wiki but it seems Rex is going to handle checking it into fedora-logos. I'm going to try to knock out some of the missing bits today. I think the wallpapers need a bit of refinement too. ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 27 14:32:18 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:32:18 +0200 Subject: F9 artwork In-Reply-To: <1206624977.3766.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1206624977.3766.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <47EBAFF2.8040000@nicubunu.ro> Matthias Clasen wrote: > > now that the beta is out, it is high time that we start getting the F9 > artwork in place. Unfortunately, I haven't followed the discussions on > this list very closely in the last weeks, so I need a quick update on > where we stand wrt to F9 art. Where can I find the existing pieces, and > what is still missing ? The pieces are gathered here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 27 16:03:48 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:03:48 -0400 Subject: Waves Syslinux Graphics Message-ID: <47EBC564.1010901@fedoraproject.org> Hi folks, I whipped up a couple versions of the syslinux artwork for the waves theme. (You see this when you first stick the install disc in your system to install Fedora) I'm not sure which version is better. Let me know what you think. I tried adding sulphur to them but it didn't really come out right. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final#head-c4511e93b4672aa8e7805b7ddc3789269e23301b ~m From jonstanley at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 16:14:12 2008 From: jonstanley at gmail.com (Jon Stanley) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:14:12 -0400 Subject: Waves Syslinux Graphics In-Reply-To: <47EBC564.1010901@fedoraproject.org> References: <47EBC564.1010901@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:03 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > I'm not sure which version is better. Let me know what you think. I > tried adding sulphur to them but it didn't really come out right. >From the peanut gallery over here, I like version 2 better. It will give more contrast to the top of the screen where folks are trying to read what syslinux is presenting to them. From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 16:58:25 2008 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:58:25 -0500 Subject: F9 artwork In-Reply-To: <47EBAFEB.5060900@fedoraproject.org> References: <1206624977.3766.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47EBAFEB.5060900@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47EBD231.4010306@gmail.com> I can go in and edit the xml. I'd like to play around a little bit with it anyway to figure out the bits anyway. M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi Matthias! > > Matthias Clasen wrote: >> Hey, >> >> now that the beta is out, it is high time that we start getting the F9 >> artwork in place. Unfortunately, I haven't followed the discussions on >> this list very closely in the last weeks, so I need a quick update on >> where we stand wrt to F9 art. Where can I find the existing pieces, and >> what is still missing ? > > This is what we have right now: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final > > What's missing? > > - syslinux splash > - anaconda banner > - wallpaper xml for transitions > - gnome splash (optional) > - gnome screensaver lock dialog (optional) > > Pavel's KDE splash isn't yet on the wiki but it seems Rex is going to > handle checking it into fedora-logos. > > I'm going to try to knock out some of the missing bits today. I think > the wallpapers need a bit of refinement too. > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 27 17:14:37 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:14:37 +0200 Subject: Waves Syslinux Graphics In-Reply-To: References: <47EBC564.1010901@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47EBD5FD.8030705@nicubunu.ro> Jon Stanley wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:03 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> I'm not sure which version is better. Let me know what you think. I >> tried adding sulphur to them but it didn't really come out right. > >>From the peanut gallery over here, I like version 2 better. It will > give more contrast to the top of the screen where folks are trying to > read what syslinux is presenting to them. And I like better version 1. for consistency (all the other screens have reflection in the water, not on an additional plane) and 2. for physical reasons (we have waves on a liquid surface and a plane and is not realistic at all - the water is like a wall). However, I agree the second look more contrasting and we had that bottom reflection plane in F8 too. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From ianweller at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 19:10:09 2008 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:10:09 -0500 Subject: F9 artwork In-Reply-To: <47EBAFEB.5060900@fedoraproject.org> References: <1206624977.3766.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47EBAFEB.5060900@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: On 3/27/08, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Pavel's KDE splash isn't yet on the wiki but it seems Rex is going to > handle checking it into fedora-logos. Should I hunt for that and get it up? -- ian From frankly3d at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 19:32:29 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:32:29 +0000 Subject: Waves Syslinux Graphics In-Reply-To: <47EBC564.1010901@fedoraproject.org> References: <47EBC564.1010901@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1206646349.18087.12.camel@frank-01> On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 12:03 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi folks, I'm not sure which version is better. Let me know what you think. I > tried adding sulphur to them but it didn't really come out right. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final#head-c4511e93b4672aa8e7805b7ddc3789269e23301b Variation 1: looks the nicer, the horizon blend works, reflection flip works, Indexed Color Version: As above, but looks very pixelated on the color borders, and flipped "fedora", on my LG L194WT (2007) the Dell E178WFP, set slightly darker contrast shows ok (Dual monitor setup 2880x900). Variation 2: The horizon lets it down, as water level seems dead\flat. Other wise pixel comments as above. Frank From frankly3d at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 19:35:58 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:35:58 +0000 Subject: Art Spin Monitor Calibration Message-ID: <1206646558.18087.16.camel@frank-01> Just wondering if anybody uses: http://lprof.sourceforge.net/ Would it be beneficial to artspin? As getting screen\printer matches, would be important. Frank From duffy at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 27 19:39:06 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:39:06 -0400 Subject: Art Spin Monitor Calibration In-Reply-To: <1206646558.18087.16.camel@frank-01> References: <1206646558.18087.16.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47EBF7DA.4070709@fedoraproject.org> Hi Frank, Frank Murphy wrote: > Just wondering if anybody uses: http://lprof.sourceforge.net/ > > Would it be beneficial to artspin? > As getting screen\printer matches, > would be important. I think that has been packaged into Fedora, but I dont actually know so much about color profiling to use it. Do you have experience with color profiling? My background is far more in digital than print so I've never gone through this kind of calibration before. ~m From frankly3d at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 19:49:13 2008 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:49:13 +0000 Subject: Art Spin Monitor Calibration In-Reply-To: <47EBF7DA.4070709@fedoraproject.org> References: <1206646558.18087.16.camel@frank-01> <47EBF7DA.4070709@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1206647353.19154.4.camel@frank-01> On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 15:39 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi Frank, > > Frank Murphy wrote: > > Just wondering if anybody uses: http://lprof.sourceforge.net/ > > > > Would it be beneficial to artspin? > > As getting screen\printer matches, > > would be important. > > I think that has been packaged into Fedora, > but I dont actually know so > much about color profiling to use it. Do you have experience with color > profiling? My background is far more in digital than print so I've never > gone through this kind of calibration before. Some as my wife is doing her art degree, and I had to set up all 9 Monitors and Color laser to match to match. No commercial experience. Frank PS: How do you get the fadas' in your name From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 19:55:03 2008 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:55:03 -0500 Subject: F9 artwork In-Reply-To: <47EBAFEB.5060900@fedoraproject.org> References: <1206624977.3766.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47EBAFEB.5060900@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47EBFB97.5020602@gmail.com> Attached is the xml file that I edited from the infinity.xml to waves.xml Basically all I had to do was edit the start time, which I put for April 1st(not fooling here), and then change instances of "infinity" to "waves". I kept the file naming structure for the png's the same, minus the theme name part. M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi Matthias! > > Matthias Clasen wrote: >> Hey, >> >> now that the beta is out, it is high time that we start getting the F9 >> artwork in place. Unfortunately, I haven't followed the discussions on >> this list very closely in the last weeks, so I need a quick update on >> where we stand wrt to F9 art. Where can I find the existing pieces, and >> what is still missing ? > > This is what we have right now: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final > > What's missing? > > - syslinux splash > - anaconda banner > - wallpaper xml for transitions > - gnome splash (optional) > - gnome screensaver lock dialog (optional) > > Pavel's KDE splash isn't yet on the wiki but it seems Rex is going to > handle checking it into fedora-logos. > > I'm going to try to knock out some of the missing bits today. I think > the wallpapers need a bit of refinement too. > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I kept the file naming structure for the png's the same, minus > the theme name part. > It might still need some tweaking, especially considering gnome now supports multiple resolutions so it would be beneficial to have it: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-February/msg00206.html Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Thu Mar 27 22:08:21 2008 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:08:21 -0500 Subject: F9 artwork In-Reply-To: <1206655302.8277.2.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1206624977.3766.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47EBAFEB.5060900@fedoraproject.org> <47EBFB97.5020602@gmail.com> <1206655302.8277.2.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <47EC1AD5.2010005@gmail.com> I'll get that added, thanks for the reminder Martin. Martin Sourada wrote: > On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 14:55 -0500, Michael Beckwith wrote: > >> Attached is the xml file that I edited from the infinity.xml to waves.xml >> >> Basically all I had to do was edit the start time, which I put for April >> 1st(not fooling here), and then change instances of "infinity" to >> "waves". I kept the file naming structure for the png's the same, minus >> the theme name part. >> >> > > It might still need some tweaking, especially considering gnome now > supports multiple resolutions so it would be beneficial to have it: > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-February/msg00206.html > > Martin > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Luya From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Mar 28 12:03:52 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:03:52 +0200 Subject: Release counter for F9 In-Reply-To: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> References: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47ECDEA8.4090204@nicubunu.ro> Nicu Buculei wrote: > The release counter we had for F8 proved to be quite popular, so is > natural to have this time another one, maybe with some improvements. > With the release scheduled for April 29, about a month from now, I think > it is a good time to start planning it. This is my first attempt at a counter: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners#head-ab3c9d92ea25a8b18ae3af39c9c5a77315deeaf2 It may be a bit loaded and the resulting PNG a bit large in size. The text is implemented with clones and has the "count-text" id (for automatic counter change with sed). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From mclasen at redhat.com Fri Mar 28 14:33:26 2008 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:33:26 -0400 Subject: F9 artwork In-Reply-To: <47EC2ECD.5040802@gmail.com> References: <1206624977.3766.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47EBAFEB.5060900@fedoraproject.org> <47EBFB97.5020602@gmail.com> <1206655302.8277.2.camel@pc-notebook> <47EC2ECD.5040802@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1206714806.3681.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 18:33 -0500, Michael Beckwith wrote: > Here's an updated version with the support for multi-resolutions. > However, I'm not sure how to handle it once we reach the static > moments. Perhaps someone with some more experience can help at those > points. You can use elements inside , too. I'll attach an xml that works. Wrt to the resolutions, it will be much more useful to have them as separate pngs if we can actually correct the aspect ratio of the images, just rendering the same svg at the different sizes will not give much of an improvement over just using the svg in the first place. Matthias -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Of course we will do that, but the first step is to put the final finishing to *one* version (probably 1920x1200), confirm that it looks good (no banding or other artifacts) and then create the other versions following the same steps. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From duffy at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 28 17:42:51 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:42:51 -0400 Subject: F9 artwork In-Reply-To: <47EBAFEB.5060900@fedoraproject.org> References: <1206624977.3766.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> <47EBAFEB.5060900@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47ED2E1B.1010106@fedoraproject.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi Matthias! > > Matthias Clasen wrote: >> Hey, >> >> now that the beta is out, it is high time that we start getting the F9 >> artwork in place. Unfortunately, I haven't followed the discussions on >> this list very closely in the last weeks, so I need a quick update on >> where we stand wrt to F9 art. Where can I find the existing pieces, and >> what is still missing ? > > This is what we have right now: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final > > What's missing? > > - syslinux splash > - anaconda banner These two are now covered on the page. ~m From duffy at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 28 17:44:24 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:44:24 -0400 Subject: Waves Syslinux Graphics In-Reply-To: References: <47EBC564.1010901@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47ED2E78.6030609@fedoraproject.org> Hey Jon! Jon Stanley wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:03 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> I'm not sure which version is better. Let me know what you think. I >> tried adding sulphur to them but it didn't really come out right. > >>From the peanut gallery over here, I like version 2 better. It will > give more contrast to the top of the screen where folks are trying to > read what syslinux is presenting to them. Great point. I usually superimpose the syslinux text on top of the image to make sure there is enough contrast and I forgot to do that this time. I got around to doing this, and I uploaded both 'previews' with the syslinux text to the wiki. It looks like the text will be readable with either design: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final#head-82210a27f6d90be44edf75f2caefb9853a8ad125 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final#head-82210a27f6d90be44edf75f2caefb9853a8ad125-2 ~m From duffy at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 28 17:45:58 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:45:58 -0400 Subject: Waves Syslinux Graphics In-Reply-To: <47EBD5FD.8030705@nicubunu.ro> References: <47EBC564.1010901@fedoraproject.org> <47EBD5FD.8030705@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47ED2ED6.7060605@fedoraproject.org> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Jon Stanley wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:03 PM, M?ir?n Duffy >> wrote: >> >>> I'm not sure which version is better. Let me know what you think. I >>> tried adding sulphur to them but it didn't really come out right. >> >>> From the peanut gallery over here, I like version 2 better. It will >> give more contrast to the top of the screen where folks are trying to >> read what syslinux is presenting to them. > > And I like better version 1. for consistency (all the other screens have > reflection in the water, not on an additional plane) and 2. for physical > reasons (we have waves on a liquid surface and a plane and is not > realistic at all - the water is like a wall). > > However, I agree the second look more contrasting and we had that bottom > reflection plane in F8 too. Yeh that's a really good point. I like the contrast of #2 but it does look pretty unnatural. I think #1 is a more consistent choice with the rest of the theme. What I'm gonig to do is fade out the waves to dark in #1 as I did in #2. I think that would make #1 look a little better. Then I think maybe would should go with #1. ~m From duffy at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 28 17:46:59 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:46:59 -0400 Subject: Waves Syslinux Graphics In-Reply-To: <1206646349.18087.12.camel@frank-01> References: <47EBC564.1010901@fedoraproject.org> <1206646349.18087.12.camel@frank-01> Message-ID: <47ED2F13.8030900@fedoraproject.org> Frank Murphy wrote: > On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 12:03 -0400, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> Hi folks, > I'm not sure which version is better. Let me know what you think. I >> tried adding sulphur to them but it didn't really come out right. >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final#head-c4511e93b4672aa8e7805b7ddc3789269e23301b > > Variation 1: > looks the nicer, the horizon blend works, reflection flip works, > > Indexed Color Version: > As above, but looks very pixelated on the color borders, and flipped > "fedora", on my LG L194WT (2007) the Dell E178WFP, set slightly darker > contrast shows ok (Dual monitor setup 2880x900). Yeh, the color indexing really limits how much we can reduce the pixelation. > > Variation 2: > > The horizon lets it down, as water level seems dead\flat. > Other wise pixel comments as above. I agree, let's go with #1. ~m From jonstanley at gmail.com Fri Mar 28 20:56:33 2008 From: jonstanley at gmail.com (Jon Stanley) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:56:33 -0400 Subject: Release counter for F9 In-Reply-To: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> References: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > A first thing would be, IMO, to define when we start counting. I see two > possible scenarios: either from a certain number of days in advance (30 > days sounds plausible) or from the Release Candidate. I'm not on the websites list, so I'll reply here :). Maybe I'll subscribe for the future, though. The problem with starting this far out is that we're still not entirely sure if we're going to slip the release date or not, based upon the slips that we've had so far in the schedule (we've lost about 2 weeks to slips thus far). We're trying like hell to release on 4/29 as planned, but there's a (not so) small chance that won't happen. It would look fairly bad to "turn back the clock" when/if we slip. From duffy at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 28 21:34:45 2008 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?UTF-8?B?TcOhaXLDrW4gRHVmZnk=?=) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:34:45 -0400 Subject: Waves Syslinux Graphics In-Reply-To: <47ED2ED6.7060605@fedoraproject.org> References: <47EBC564.1010901@fedoraproject.org> <47EBD5FD.8030705@nicubunu.ro> <47ED2ED6.7060605@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <47ED6475.2000503@fedoraproject.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: >> And I like better version 1. for consistency (all the other screens >> have reflection in the water, not on an additional plane) and 2. for >> physical reasons (we have waves on a liquid surface and a plane and is >> not realistic at all - the water is like a wall). >> >> However, I agree the second look more contrasting and we had that >> bottom reflection plane in F8 too. > > Yeh that's a really good point. I like the contrast of #2 but it does > look pretty unnatural. I think #1 is a more consistent choice with the > rest of the theme. > > What I'm gonig to do is fade out the waves to dark in #1 as I did in #2. > I think that would make #1 look a little better. Then I think maybe > would should go with #1. Okay, as promised, here it is, i think it turned out pretty good: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes/Waves/Round3Final#head-8f5bde625183aa98dbf9a180516a4fc4412df3e5 ~m From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Mar 28 23:08:47 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 00:08:47 +0100 Subject: [Waves theme] Trimming unnecessary nodes in the wallpapers In-Reply-To: <47ECA5DE.7080809@thefinalzone.com> References: <47ECA5DE.7080809@thefinalzone.com> Message-ID: <1206745727.8277.20.camel@pc-notebook> On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 01:01 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > I took an opportunity to look at Waves background and noticed a > tremendous amount > of nodes for curves causing a huge slowdown to my x86_64 workstation. > Removing some of them have reduced the original size from 208 to 186 KB. > The blurred dark flame is made with less node though it could be tweaked > further instead of the bunch of planes. I have added some sparks from > the flames. > > You can view the preliminary result on http://luya.fedorapeople.org/test/ > > There are more trimming to do to reduce the size of the file. > > Luya > Hi, I trimmed down (the SVGs are around 130 kiB now) all the wallpapers and did some additional changes to them: 1. I use different flames for different times of day (thus the flame would not be static) 2. I removed halo from the night version, because I like it better without it and don't see a reason to have a halo on a night sky... Especially the flames might still need some polishing so I put it on fedorapeople instead of wiki... http://mso.fedorapeople.org/waves/ Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Sat Mar 29 04:19:10 2008 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:19:10 -0500 Subject: Blurry Icons Message-ID: <47EDC33E.8000400@gmail.com> Wiki page highlighting blurry/missing icons in F9beta http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9IconCheck -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) From martin.sourada at gmail.com Sat Mar 29 16:01:32 2008 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:01:32 +0100 Subject: [Waves] Complete wallpaper set Message-ID: <1206806492.8277.40.camel@pc-notebook> Hi, I edited the day wallpaper a little bit more and generated the needed sizes (1920x1200, 1600x1200, 1280x1024, 800x480). The complete wallpaper set can be found at my fedora people page [1], SVGs are in the same folder but not included in the archive. Comments welcome, Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/waves/sulphuric-waves-wallpaper-set.tar.gz -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mclasen at redhat.com Sat Mar 29 22:28:37 2008 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:28:37 -0400 Subject: [Waves] Complete wallpaper set In-Reply-To: <1206806492.8277.40.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1206806492.8277.40.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <1206829717.3927.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2008-03-29 at 17:01 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: > Hi, > > I edited the day wallpaper a little bit more and generated the needed > sizes (1920x1200, 1600x1200, 1280x1024, 800x480). The complete wallpaper > set can be found at my fedora people page [1], SVGs are in the same > folder but not included in the archive. > > Comments welcome, > Martin > > References: > [1] > http://mso.fedorapeople.org/waves/sulphuric-waves-wallpaper-set.tar.gz I've added a 'waves' slideshow based on this set of images to desktop-backgrounds-basic-8.92-1.fc9, which should show up in rawhide tomorrow. I haven't switched over defaults yet, will do so later. And then we should move the infinity backgrounds out to a separate package. From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 31 07:50:40 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:50:40 +0300 Subject: Release counter for F9 In-Reply-To: References: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47F097D0.9060902@nicubunu.ro> Jon Stanley wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > >> A first thing would be, IMO, to define when we start counting. I see two >> possible scenarios: either from a certain number of days in advance (30 >> days sounds plausible) or from the Release Candidate. > > The problem with starting this far out is that we're still not > entirely sure if we're going to slip the release date or not, based > upon the slips that we've had so far in the schedule (we've lost about > 2 weeks to slips thus far). We're trying like hell to release on 4/29 > as planned, but there's a (not so) small chance that won't happen. It > would look fairly bad to "turn back the clock" when/if we slip. This is why we probably should escalate this to the right level and get an advice (as good as it could be made, we all know delays may happen even in the last week) about the date. I believe ReleaseEngineering is the proper entity to ask about this, do we have anyone here connected to it? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 31 07:56:02 2008 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:26:02 +0530 Subject: Release counter for F9 In-Reply-To: <47F097D0.9060902@nicubunu.ro> References: <47EB9196.4000209@nicubunu.ro> <47F097D0.9060902@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <47F09912.8060006@fedoraproject.org> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Jon Stanley wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Nicu Buculei >> wrote: >> >>> A first thing would be, IMO, to define when we start counting. I see >>> two >>> possible scenarios: either from a certain number of days in advance (30 >>> days sounds plausible) or from the Release Candidate. >> >> The problem with starting this far out is that we're still not >> entirely sure if we're going to slip the release date or not, based >> upon the slips that we've had so far in the schedule (we've lost about >> 2 weeks to slips thus far). We're trying like hell to release on 4/29 >> as planned, but there's a (not so) small chance that won't happen. It >> would look fairly bad to "turn back the clock" when/if we slip. > > This is why we probably should escalate this to the right level and get > an advice (as good as it could be made, we all know delays may happen > even in the last week) about the date. > > I believe ReleaseEngineering is the proper entity to ask about this, do > we have anyone here connected to it? CC'ing rel-eng. Rahul From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 31 07:59:31 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:59:31 +0300 Subject: Ready to Start In-Reply-To: <001801c8912d$bb259f60$3170de20$@com> References: <001801c8912d$bb259f60$3170de20$@com> Message-ID: <47F099E3.3090101@nicubunu.ro> Kyle Leitch wrote: > Hello Artists! Hi and welcome! > I?m Kyle from Washington, USA. I?ve got some basic programming > experience but art is where it?s at. I?d love to help out on the > development of how fedora looks! Cool, do you have some works put online? > I do a lot of Photoshop and graphic design (I?ve done several posters > and websites) and I?m a photographer. Do you have any experience with GIMP or any other graphic tools included in Fedora? > Let me know if I can be of assistance, We have an open queue with small tasks requested by various Fedora entities: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 31 08:02:45 2008 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:02:45 +0300 Subject: Blurry Icons In-Reply-To: <47EDC33E.8000400@gmail.com> References: <47EDC33E.8000400@gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F09AA5.5050400@nicubunu.ro> Michael Beckwith wrote: > Wiki page highlighting blurry/missing icons in F9beta > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9IconCheck The first issue, missing icon for PackageKit GUI seems corrected in Rawhide. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro From markg85 at gmail.com Mon Mar 31 17:51:21 2008 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:51:21 +0200 Subject: [Waves] Complete wallpaper set In-Reply-To: <1206806492.8277.40.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1206806492.8277.40.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80803311051s2409946bkcf75abd7798aa08c@mail.gmail.com> 2008/3/29, Martin Sourada : > Hi, > > I edited the day wallpaper a little bit more and generated the needed > sizes (1920x1200, 1600x1200, 1280x1024, 800x480). The complete wallpaper > set can be found at my fedora people page [1], SVGs are in the same > folder but not included in the archive. > > Comments welcome, > Martin > > References: > [1] > http://mso.fedorapeople.org/waves/sulphuric-waves-wallpaper-set.tar.gz > Nice! But can you make a widescreen set as well? This set will work fine on my desktop but not on my notebook (widescreen). From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Mon Mar 31 18:01:21 2008 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:01:21 -0500 Subject: [Waves] Complete wallpaper set In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80803311051s2409946bkcf75abd7798aa08c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1206806492.8277.40.camel@pc-notebook> <6e24a8e80803311051s2409946bkcf75abd7798aa08c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F126F1.4010902@gmail.com> I believe the 1920x1200 is widescreen ratio Mark wrote: > 2008/3/29, Martin Sourada : > >> Hi, >> >> I edited the day wallpaper a little bit more and generated the needed >> sizes (1920x1200, 1600x1200, 1280x1024, 800x480). The complete wallpaper >> set can be found at my fedora people page [1], SVGs are in the same >> folder but not included in the archive. >> >> Comments welcome, >> Martin >> >> References: >> [1] >> http://mso.fedorapeople.org/waves/sulphuric-waves-wallpaper-set.tar.gz >> >> > > Nice! > But can you make a widescreen set as well? This set will work fine on > my desktop but not on my notebook (widescreen). > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- ~Michael http://ridleytx.structed.net (for now) http://michaelbox.net (eventually) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I see > >>> two > >>> possible scenarios: either from a certain number of days in advance (30 > >>> days sounds plausible) or from the Release Candidate. > >> > >> The problem with starting this far out is that we're still not > >> entirely sure if we're going to slip the release date or not, based > >> upon the slips that we've had so far in the schedule (we've lost about > >> 2 weeks to slips thus far). We're trying like hell to release on 4/29 > >> as planned, but there's a (not so) small chance that won't happen. It > >> would look fairly bad to "turn back the clock" when/if we slip. > > > > This is why we probably should escalate this to the right level and get > > an advice (as good as it could be made, we all know delays may happen > > even in the last week) about the date. > > > > I believe ReleaseEngineering is the proper entity to ask about this, do > > we have anyone here connected to it? > > CC'ing rel-eng. > > Rahul At this time we're not slipping. However even if we did, we can just reset the counter back a little bit. It's not really worse than having our release date change on the schedule page. It certainly wouldn't be the first case of a computer progress timer going backwards... -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: