From mola.mp at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 10:22:31 2009 From: mola.mp at gmail.com (Mola pahnadayan) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:52:31 +0330 Subject: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? In-Reply-To: <20090227163129.GB9867@localhost.localdomain> References: <206541926.118041235426787143.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> <844069.97969.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49A64738.1030800@nicubunu.ro> <422661.60559.qm@web50908.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49A7A02C.8090600@nicubunu.ro> <766055.3448.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <932844.82874.qm@web50912.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090227163129.GB9867@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1235989351.3342.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi all, I work on greek-concept and you can see my ouyput here : http://mola.fedorapeople.org/gimp/view/ total 15 pictures ( 13 picture is new work ) Mola From sstorari at byte-code.com Mon Mar 2 12:00:47 2009 From: sstorari at byte-code.com (Samuele Storari) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:00:47 +0100 (CET) Subject: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? In-Reply-To: <235518436.268841235995173029.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <707800491.268861235995247811.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Hi All I've uploaded a new proposal for the Greek theme on the wiki https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Leonidas_sstorari_mo1_1920x1200.png The Ideas behind this mockup are: 1) a connection between past (helmet, Shield & Spear) and a connection with our time or the future made by the transistors on the back. 2) The Spear is rotated and take the position of the 11 o clock as the release number 3) The basic RED of the Spartan color now turned in to a Fedora Blu, you can see it in the helmet & in the triangle of the shield. I need some help for the background, my purpose it's to reproduce an Hi-tech BG with some transistor and a Printed circuit board can someone help me? Samuele ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mola pahnadayan" To: "Fedora Art List" Sent: Monday, 2 March, 2009 11:22:31 AM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Re: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? Hi all, I work on greek-concept and you can see my ouyput here : http://mola.fedorapeople.org/gimp/view/ total 15 pictures ( 13 picture is new work ) Mola _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com From jreznik at redhat.com Mon Mar 2 12:11:00 2009 From: jreznik at redhat.com (Jaroslav Reznik) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:11:00 +0100 Subject: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? In-Reply-To: <1235989351.3342.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <206541926.118041235426787143.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> <20090227163129.GB9867@localhost.localdomain> <1235989351.3342.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200903021311.00842.jreznik@redhat.com> On Monday 02 March 2009 11:22:31 Mola pahnadayan wrote: > Hi all, > I work on greek-concept and you can see my ouyput here : > http://mola.fedorapeople.org/gimp/view/ > > total 15 pictures ( 13 picture is new work ) Hi Mola, I like this mystic looking style and it looks fresh (compared to all blue previous wallpapers) but I think it's a little overcomplicated. Could you try it with clean sky and let clouds/mist only in mountains? It's wallpaper so it should let some clean space for icons (yes, some people still have icons on desktop :D) and widgets etc. But let "life" in it! Jaroslav > > Mola > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Jaroslav ?ezn?k Associate Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 2 12:13:53 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:13:53 +0200 Subject: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? In-Reply-To: <707800491.268861235995247811.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <707800491.268861235995247811.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <49ABCD81.6050006@nicubunu.ro> Samuele Storari wrote: > I've uploaded a new proposal for the Greek theme on the wiki > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Leonidas_sstorari_mo1_1920x1200.png > > The Ideas behind this mockup are: > > 1) a connection between past (helmet, Shield & Spear) and a connection with our time or the future made by the transistors on the back. > 2) The Spear is rotated and take the position of the 11 o clock as the release number > 3) The basic RED of the Spartan color now turned in to a Fedora Blu, you can see it in the helmet & in the triangle of the shield. I thought we reached a consensus about going with a photographic landscape... > I need some help for the background, my purpose it's to reproduce an Hi-tech BG with some transistor and a Printed circuit board can someone help me? You want something like this http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dg-pcb.jpg ? You can also open the case of your computer and take a photo. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Mon Mar 2 13:21:30 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 05:21:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? References: <206541926.118041235426787143.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> <844069.97969.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49A64738.1030800@nicubunu.ro> <422661.60559.qm@web50908.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49A7A02C.8090600@nicubunu.ro> <766055.3448.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <932844.82874.qm@web50912.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090227163129.GB9867@localhost.localdomain> <1235989351.3342.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <463117.52801.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Mola! ----- Original Message ---- > From: Mola pahnadayan > I work on greek-concept and you can see my ouyput here : > http://mola.fedorapeople.org/gimp/view/ These are fabulous! I have only one concern - do you have references for the new photo sources you pulled in? (Eg the birds and the fireworks for example.) We can't use any of the new ones unless we know what photos you used and their license, etc. Do you have the XCFs for any of these? I'm particularly interested in the very last one. ~m From camilo at mesias.co.uk Mon Mar 2 13:21:57 2009 From: camilo at mesias.co.uk (Camilo Mesias) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:21:57 +0000 Subject: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? In-Reply-To: <49ABCD81.6050006@nicubunu.ro> References: <707800491.268861235995247811.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49ABCD81.6050006@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: Hi a bit late perhaps but I thought of something that may make an interesting background - since you mentioned photographic landscape. I saw an article on tilt-shift photography, where special lenses are used to modify perspective and depth-of-field giving an uncanny model photography effect. This effect can also be faked in CGI rendering. Here's the article, http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/11/16/beautiful-examples-of-tilt-shift-photography/ There are several sports stadiums (I imagined an amphitheatre) also some Italian landscapes bearing some similarity to the nearby Greek. I thought the large expanses of blurred areas created by the effect would be a good non-distracting background for icons. As to getting any usable images - I can't help but I thought it might inspire someone more artistically inclined :) -Cam From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 2 14:04:07 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:04:07 +0200 Subject: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? In-Reply-To: References: <707800491.268861235995247811.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49ABCD81.6050006@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <49ABE757.8070805@nicubunu.ro> Camilo Mesias wrote: > a bit late perhaps but I thought of something that may make an > interesting background - since you mentioned photographic landscape. I > saw an article on tilt-shift photography, where special lenses are > used to modify perspective and depth-of-field giving an uncanny model > photography effect. This effect can also be faked in CGI rendering. > > Here's the article, > > http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/11/16/beautiful-examples-of-tilt-shift-photography/ Camilo, you are truly evil! You made me to crave for such lenses to play with! Good thing they have a high enough price to be out of my budget :p -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From himam at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 2 14:49:56 2009 From: himam at fedoraproject.org (Hisham Abdel-Magid) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:49:56 +0300 Subject: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? In-Reply-To: <49ABE757.8070805@nicubunu.ro> References: <707800491.268861235995247811.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49ABCD81.6050006@nicubunu.ro> <49ABE757.8070805@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <59e007ed0903020649y35963b5fkc9a1064d7dcc0177@mail.gmail.com> hello all ^_^ i have a "small" Q ... why the use of 4070 x 1267 resolution? 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It looks like that exact size is arbitrary, but the intention is to have an image for a dual wide screen (the most extreme case, everything else can be cropped from it). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From himam at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 2 14:58:25 2009 From: himam at fedoraproject.org (Hisham Abdel-Magid) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:58:25 +0300 Subject: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? In-Reply-To: <49ABF30C.3080506@nicubunu.ro> References: <707800491.268861235995247811.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49ABCD81.6050006@nicubunu.ro> <49ABE757.8070805@nicubunu.ro> <59e007ed0903020649y35963b5fkc9a1064d7dcc0177@mail.gmail.com> <49ABF30C.3080506@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <59e007ed0903020658u4bf064a7i7340eca15179a7b4@mail.gmail.com> i c ^_^ thnx Nicu ~hish On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Hisham Abdel-Magid wrote: > >> hello all ^_^ >> i have a "small" Q ... why the use of 4070 x 1267 resolution? >> (i hope this is not a "square zero" type of Qs). >> > > It looks like that exact size is arbitrary, but the intention is to have an > image for a dual wide screen (the most extreme case, everything else can be > cropped from it). > > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ > photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Re: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? (Samuele Storari) > 3. Re: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? (Jaroslav Reznik) > 4. Re: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? (Nicu Buculei) > 5. Re: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? (M?ir?n Duffy) > 6. Re: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? (Camilo Mesias) > 7. Re: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? (Nicu Buculei) > 8. Re: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? (Hisham Abdel-Magid) > 9. Re: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? (Nicu Buculei) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:52:31 +0330 > From: Mola pahnadayan > Subject: Re: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? > To: Fedora Art List > Message-ID: <1235989351.3342.2.camel at localhost.localdomain> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Hi all, > I work on greek-concept and you can see my ouyput here : > http://mola.fedorapeople.org/gimp/view/ > > total 15 pictures ( 13 picture is new work ) > > > Mola > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:00:47 +0100 (CET) > From: Samuele Storari > Subject: Re: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? > To: Fedora Art List > Message-ID: > <707800491.268861235995247811.JavaMail.root at mail.byte-code.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi All > I've uploaded a new proposal for the Greek theme on the wiki > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Leonidas_sstorari_mo1_1920x1200.png > > The Ideas behind this mockup are: > > 1) a connection between past (helmet, Shield & Spear) and a connection with our time or the future made by the transistors on the back. > 2) The Spear is rotated and take the position of the 11 o clock as the release number > 3) The basic RED of the Spartan color now turned in to a Fedora Blu, you can see it in the helmet & in the triangle of the shield. > > I need some help for the background, my purpose it's to reproduce an Hi-tech BG with some transistor and a Printed circuit board can someone help me? > > Samuele > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mola pahnadayan" > To: "Fedora Art List" > Sent: Monday, 2 March, 2009 11:22:31 AM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna > Subject: Re: Help out with the f11 wallpaper? > > Hi all, > I work on greek-concept and you can see my ouyput here : > http://mola.fedorapeople.org/gimp/view/ > > total 15 pictures ( 13 picture is new work ) > > > Mola > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > I like it, but you need to make the outline of FEDORA darker because it blends in to much at spots. 1512purple From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 2 16:12:15 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:12:15 +0200 Subject: Respond to Mola In-Reply-To: <49ABFDBE.9050909@comcast.net> References: <20090302145426.278D0618276@hormel.redhat.com> <49ABFDBE.9050909@comcast.net> Message-ID: <49AC055F.8070406@nicubunu.ro> 1512purple wrote: >> From: "Mola pahnadayan" >> Hi all, >> I work on greek-concept and you can see my ouyput here : >> http://mola.fedorapeople.org/gimp/view/ >> >> total 15 pictures ( 13 picture is new work ) >> > I like it, but you need to make the outline of FEDORA darker because it > blends in to much at spots. As a matter of fact, for those images to be acceptable as wallpapers, the logo should have discarded completely, this is what we settled on, using not-branded wallpapers to encourage re-use and make the life easier for Fedora based derivatives. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From martin.sourada at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 15:05:09 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:05:09 +0100 Subject: Echo Monthly News Issue 7, February 2009 Message-ID: <1236092709.3017.4.camel@pc-notebook> Hi, We have published the sixth Echo Monthly News Issue [1]. This issue covers February 2009 and contains this topic: 1 New Icons 1.1 Perspective Regards, The Echo Team References: [1] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/MonthlyNews/Issue7 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Tue Mar 3 21:41:43 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:41:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Picture Book Mockup Message-ID: <810133.54491.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/collateral/picturebook/mocks/friendsmockup.png (SVG in same directory) Let the games begin! :) My concept for the theme of the book here is a guide on how to be Fedora. There would be 4 chapters, freedom, friends, features, first. The photos for each chapter will have the model's perspective on the chapter's four f, talking about how that f affects their life and affects their role in Fedora. Then below that, per picture, we could suggest to the readers how they can bring that into their own life with a suggestion. Kind of a call to action. What do you think? ~m From ianweller at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 23:07:10 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:07:10 -0600 Subject: Picture Book Mockup In-Reply-To: <810133.54491.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <810133.54491.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090303230710.GB23602@gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 01:41:43PM -0800, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/collateral/picturebook/mocks/friendsmockup.png > > (SVG in same directory) > > Let the games begin! :) My concept for the theme of the book here is a guide on how to be Fedora. There would be 4 chapters, freedom, friends, features, first. The photos for each chapter will have the model's perspective on the chapter's four f, talking about how that f affects their life and affects their role in Fedora. Then below that, per picture, we could suggest to the readers how they can bring that into their own life with a suggestion. Kind of a call to action. > > What do you think? > yay yay yay :D See also: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Picture_book So currently we're looking for design mockups as well as how all the stories should tie into the four foundations, etc. We really need as much collaboration on this as we can get. If you've got extra time, please help us out! :D -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ianweller at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 04:44:00 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:44:00 -0600 Subject: Picture Book Mockup In-Reply-To: <810133.54491.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <810133.54491.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090304044400.GA2058@gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 01:41:43PM -0800, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Let the games begin! :) My concept for the theme of the book here is a guide on how to be Fedora. There would be 4 chapters, freedom, friends, features, first. The photos for each chapter will have the model's perspective on the chapter's four f, talking about how that f affects their life and affects their role in Fedora. Then below that, per picture, we could suggest to the readers how they can bring that into their own life with a suggestion. Kind of a call to action. > Can we organize all the mockups here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Picture_book_mockups Just add [[Category:Picture book mockups]] to the description of the uploaded PNG on the wiki. You can upload the SVG too, but link to it from the PNG's description; don't include the category tag on SVGs. -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There would be 4 chapters, freedom, friends, features, first. The photos for each chapter will have the model's perspective on the chapter's four f, talking about how that f affects their life and affects their role in Fedora. Then below that, per picture, we could suggest to the readers how they can bring that into their own life with a suggestion. Kind of a call to action. What do you think? ~m _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Colby Alexander Hoke -[Producer]- Brand Communications + Design From luya at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 4 07:07:38 2009 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:07:38 -0800 Subject: Picture Book Mockup In-Reply-To: <1236129640.49add76883945@ssl.mecca.ca> References: <810133.54491.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1236129640.49add76883945@ssl.mecca.ca> Message-ID: <1236150458.49ae28ba7aed6@ssl.mecca.ca> Setting in critic mode: Did you use hyphen or em dashes in first and last paragraph? Careful with the widow at the end of last paragraph? Title "Chapter 2: Friends" is hard to read due to similar hue. Enlighten it might help. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Design E: luya at fedoraproject.org From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Mar 4 09:14:53 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:14:53 +0200 Subject: Picture Book Mockup In-Reply-To: <810133.54491.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <810133.54491.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49AE468D.5000608@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/collateral/picturebook/mocks/friendsmockup.png The general layout is pretty much the same I was thinking about. I only think it may be too much blue, I would like the photo bigger and less empty (blue) space, something more like https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Friendsmockup_N.png (however, I am not sure about "chaper2: friends" being on top of the photo) Another possibility to to somehow use the icons for each F: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Friendsmockup_N1.png > > Let the games begin! :) My concept for the theme of the book here is a guide on how to be Fedora. There would be 4 chapters, freedom, friends, features, first. The photos for each chapter will have the model's perspective on the chapter's four f, talking about how that f affects their life and affects their role in Fedora. Then below that, per picture, we could suggest to the readers how they can bring that into their own life with a suggestion. Kind of a call to action. This is a good concept. And if we don't have a quote from the model, we can write something by ourselves, maybe a neutral text or a quote from someone who know the model. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From ianweller at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 22:18:52 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:18:52 -0600 Subject: Picture Book Mockup In-Reply-To: <1236150458.49ae28ba7aed6@ssl.mecca.ca> References: <810133.54491.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1236129640.49add76883945@ssl.mecca.ca> <1236150458.49ae28ba7aed6@ssl.mecca.ca> Message-ID: <20090304221850.GE3064@gmail.com> On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 11:07:38PM -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Setting in critic mode: > Did you use hyphen or em dashes in first and last paragraph? > Careful with the widow at the end of last paragraph? > Title "Chapter 2: Friends" is hard to read due to similar hue. Enlighten it > might help. > This is a *mockup*. I'm also extremely picky about em dashes, and we'll make sure we use those correctly in the finished book. :D -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm also extremely picky about em dashes, and we'll > make sure we use those correctly in the finished book. :D Heh, are em dashes actually used in English? In Czech we use only hyphens, - (like in screen-cast), and en dashes, ? (when separating sentences, denoting ranges, etc.)... Em dashes, ?, seem over too long (to me) ;-) Although, for some reason my evolution displays both the en dash and em dash with same length (which is wrong)... Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From stickster at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 23:27:51 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:27:51 -0500 Subject: Wallpaper for Beta? Message-ID: <20090304232751.GD18862@localhost.localdomain> With all the energy on the list, I thought it would be an opportune time to mention that there is an open issue of wallpaper. There are several options on the table from different contributors. A few are ineligible for specific reasons but there are plenty that are interesting and quite good. When is the decision going to be made about which one goes in the Beta? We are a little past that deadline if the wallpaper is to get into the Beta spin as was originally intended, but it *can* still happen. I suggest deciding on a candidate by tomorrow. If the design isn't perfect there is still time to tweak it as we move toward the Preview Release and the other collateral designs are made. Once that's done, are there multiple people who can work on creating the various other banners and art from that design? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stickster at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 23:31:25 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:31:25 -0500 Subject: Picture Book Mockup In-Reply-To: <1236206772.25833.27.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> References: <810133.54491.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1236129640.49add76883945@ssl.mecca.ca> <1236150458.49ae28ba7aed6@ssl.mecca.ca> <20090304221850.GE3064@gmail.com> <1236206772.25833.27.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <20090304233125.GE18862@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 11:46:12PM +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 16:18 -0600, Ian Weller wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 11:07:38PM -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > > > Setting in critic mode: > > > Did you use hyphen or em dashes in first and last paragraph? > > > Careful with the widow at the end of last paragraph? > > > Title "Chapter 2: Friends" is hard to read due to similar hue. Enlighten it > > > might help. > > > > > This is a *mockup*. I'm also extremely picky about em dashes, and we'll > > make sure we use those correctly in the finished book. :D > > Heh, are em dashes actually used in English? In Czech we use only > hyphens, - (like in screen-cast), and en dashes, ? (when separating > sentences, denoting ranges, etc.)... Em dashes, ?, seem over too long > (to me) ;-) Although, for some reason my evolution displays both the en > dash and em dash with same length (which is wrong)... In English typography, I've seen em dashes used far more often than not to separate clauses of interjection -- like this one! -- but whereas ASCII text generally represents an em dash as three hyphens (---), most people type it as two or (shudder) one. My mutt client displays your hyphen, en dash, and emdash above as three different lengths as intended. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From hydra84 at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 00:26:54 2009 From: hydra84 at gmail.com (Paolo Leoni) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 01:26:54 +0100 Subject: Wallpaper for Beta? In-Reply-To: <20090304232751.GD18862@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090304232751.GD18862@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1799f9cf0903041626m357324fapf512bc65ca1c3d68@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/5 Paul W. Frields > > > Once that's done, are there multiple people who can work on creating > the various other banners and art from that design? > > I think that latest Mo's Mockups are best candidates for the F11 wallpaper. Personally, I can help to provide release banners for the beta and, in the future, for the final version (including countdown). -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Thu Mar 5 05:35:52 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:35:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Wallpaper for Beta? In-Reply-To: <20090304232751.GD18862@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090304232751.GD18862@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <676892.90002.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Paul W. Frields > When is the decision going to be made about which one goes in the > Beta? This is what I've got https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Artwork#Beta_Mockups It's not perfect, but it's something.... what do you think? ~m From neugens at limasoftware.net Wed Mar 4 15:31:05 2009 From: neugens at limasoftware.net (Mario Torre) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:31:05 +0100 Subject: Picture Book Mockup In-Reply-To: <20090304044400.GA2058@gmail.com> References: <810133.54491.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090304044400.GA2058@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1236180665.3577.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Il giorno mar, 03/03/2009 alle 22.44 -0600, Ian Weller ha scritto: > On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 01:41:43PM -0800, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Let the games begin! :) My concept for the theme of the book here is a guide on how to be Fedora. There would be 4 chapters, freedom, friends, features, first. The photos for each chapter will have the model's perspective on the chapter's four f, talking about how that f affects their life and affects their role in Fedora. Then below that, per picture, we could suggest to the readers how they can bring that into their own life with a suggestion. Kind of a call to action. > > > Can we organize all the mockups here: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Picture_book_mockups > > Just add [[Category:Picture book mockups]] to the description of the > uploaded PNG on the wiki. You can upload the SVG too, but link to it > from the PNG's description; don't include the category tag on SVGs. I personally quite like N and N1, not the last template though. But the whole idea is really cool, definitely! Cheers, Mario From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 5 07:44:28 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:44:28 +0200 Subject: Wallpaper for Beta? In-Reply-To: <676892.90002.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20090304232751.GD18862@localhost.localdomain> <676892.90002.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49AF82DC.4040309@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> From: Paul W. Frields >> When is the decision going to be made about which one goes in the >> Beta? > > This is what I've got > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Artwork#Beta_Mockups > > It's not perfect, but it's something.... what do you think? I think we can go with one of those for beta, my option would be for on *with* a temple (Betamockup1_wide_right.png). There are a few things I am not happy about, like the grass not being green enough and the sky being more cyan than blue, but there is time for those after the Beta. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Thu Mar 5 12:38:24 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 04:38:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: Wallpaper for Beta? In-Reply-To: <49AF82DC.4040309@nicubunu.ro> References: <20090304232751.GD18862@localhost.localdomain> <676892.90002.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49AF82DC.4040309@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <932306.4533.qm@web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hey Nicu~ ----- Original Message ---- > From: Nicu Buculei > There are a few things I am not happy about, like the grass not being green > enough and the sky being more cyan than blue, but there is time for those after > the Beta. It started out a lot more green & cyan (see Mola's original mockup, bottom here: http://mola.fedorapeople.org/gimp/view/) But trying that as a wallpaper, it was way too intense and contrasty / distracting for a wallpaper. :( ~m From martin.sourada at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 13:03:18 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:03:18 +0100 Subject: Wallpaper for Beta? In-Reply-To: <676892.90002.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20090304232751.GD18862@localhost.localdomain> <676892.90002.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1236258198.5357.3.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 21:35 -0800, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > This is what I've got > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Artwork#Beta_Mockups > > It's not perfect, but it's something.... what do you think? > > ~m Hi Mo, I've put them to a rpm package [1]. I'll submit it for inclusion in fedora later if you find it good. 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In-Reply-To: <932306.4533.qm@web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20090304232751.GD18862@localhost.localdomain> <676892.90002.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49AF82DC.4040309@nicubunu.ro> <932306.4533.qm@web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49AFCE2C.9030004@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> From: Nicu Buculei > >> There are a few things I am not happy about, like the grass not being green >> enough and the sky being more cyan than blue, but there is time for those after >> the Beta. > > It started out a lot more green & cyan (see Mola's original mockup, bottom here: http://mola.fedorapeople.org/gimp/view/) I know Mola's images, we talked about them on IRC before he mailed to the list. > But trying that as a wallpaper, it was way too intense and contrasty / distracting for a wallpaper. :( You are right, Mola's colors are too saturated and won't work for an usable desktop (and also don't look very natural either). I tried a quick trick starting from one of Mola's images (attached): decreased the saturation and increased the lightness a bit, the colors are closer to what I have in mind (but I should have applied the lightness/saturation operation separately to the grass and sky). The hard reality is an wallpaper like this will be inevitably compared with the default Windows XP wallpaper, which had set a standard in people's minds: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Windows_XP_SP3.png But as I said in my previous mail, those are small details we can worry about post-beta. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <49AFCE2C.9030004@nicubunu.ro> References: <20090304232751.GD18862@localhost.localdomain> <676892.90002.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49AF82DC.4040309@nicubunu.ro> <932306.4533.qm@web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49AFCE2C.9030004@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <790352.25309.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hey Nicu! ----- Original Message ---- > From: Nicu Buculei > I tried a quick trick starting from one of Mola's images (attached): decreased > the saturation and increased the lightness a bit, the colors are closer to what > I have in mind (but I should have applied the lightness/saturation operation > separately to the grass and sky). > Would you mind applying those changes to the newer mockup I posted to the wiki last night? The reason I ask is because Mola's mockup has brushes that don't have an explicit license so I had to redo parts of the image. ~m From brianhurren at yahoo.com Thu Mar 5 15:34:11 2009 From: brianhurren at yahoo.com (brian hurren) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:34:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 36, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <20090305130617.1A4B98E063E@hormel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <627148.40401.qm@web51306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Just a quick unrelated question. Is it too early to suggest ideas for fedora12? I have also done an animation course, is there anyway that I could help out with this? Or any other design projects I could help with? --- On Fri, 6/3/09, fedora-art-list-request at redhat.com wrote: From: fedora-art-list-request at redhat.com Subject: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 36, Issue 6 To: fedora-art-list at redhat.com Received: Friday, 6 March, 2009, 2:06 AM Send Fedora-art-list mailing list submissions to fedora-art-list at redhat.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fedora-art-list-request at redhat.com You can reach the person managing the list at fedora-art-list-owner at redhat.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fedora-art-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Wallpaper for Beta? (Nicu Buculei) 2. Re: Wallpaper for Beta? (M?ir?n Duffy) 3. Re: Wallpaper for Beta? (Martin Sourada) 4. Re: Wallpaper for Beta? (Nicu Buculei) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:44:28 +0200 From: Nicu Buculei Subject: Re: Wallpaper for Beta? To: Fedora Art List Message-ID: <49AF82DC.4040309 at nicubunu.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> From: Paul W. Frields >> When is the decision going to be made about which one goes in the >> Beta? > > This is what I've got > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Artwork#Beta_Mockups > > It's not perfect, but it's something.... what do you think? I think we can go with one of those for beta, my option would be for on *with* a temple (Betamockup1_wide_right.png). There are a few things I am not happy about, like the grass not being green enough and the sky being more cyan than blue, but there is time for those after the Beta. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 04:38:24 -0800 (PST) From: M?ir?n Duffy Subject: Re: Wallpaper for Beta? To: Fedora Art List Message-ID: <932306.4533.qm at web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hey Nicu~ ----- Original Message ---- > From: Nicu Buculei > There are a few things I am not happy about, like the grass not being green > enough and the sky being more cyan than blue, but there is time for those after > the Beta. It started out a lot more green & cyan (see Mola's original mockup, bottom here: http://mola.fedorapeople.org/gimp/view/) But trying that as a wallpaper, it was way too intense and contrasty / distracting for a wallpaper. :( ~m ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:03:18 +0100 From: Martin Sourada Subject: Re: Wallpaper for Beta? To: Fedora Art List Message-ID: <1236258198.5357.3.camel at pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 21:35 -0800, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > This is what I've got > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Artwork#Beta_Mockups > > It's not perfect, but it's something.... what do you think? > > ~m Hi Mo, I've put them to a rpm package [1]. I'll submit it for inclusion in fedora later if you find it good. 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To: Fedora Art List Message-ID: <49AFCE2C.9030004 at nicubunu.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> From: Nicu Buculei > >> There are a few things I am not happy about, like the grass not being green >> enough and the sky being more cyan than blue, but there is time for those after >> the Beta. > > It started out a lot more green & cyan (see Mola's original mockup, bottom here: http://mola.fedorapeople.org/gimp/view/) I know Mola's images, we talked about them on IRC before he mailed to the list. > But trying that as a wallpaper, it was way too intense and contrasty / distracting for a wallpaper. :( You are right, Mola's colors are too saturated and won't work for an usable desktop (and also don't look very natural either). I tried a quick trick starting from one of Mola's images (attached): decreased the saturation and increased the lightness a bit, the colors are closer to what I have in mind (but I should have applied the lightness/saturation operation separately to the grass and sky). The hard reality is an wallpaper like this will be inevitably compared with the default Windows XP wallpaper, which had set a standard in people's minds: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Windows_XP_SP3.png But as I said in my previous mail, those are small details we can worry about post-beta. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <49AFCE2C.9030004@nicubunu.ro> References: <20090304232751.GD18862@localhost.localdomain> <676892.90002.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49AF82DC.4040309@nicubunu.ro> <932306.4533.qm@web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49AFCE2C.9030004@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <20090305154021.GN22889@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 03:05:48PM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > The hard reality is an wallpaper like this will be inevitably compared > with the default Windows XP wallpaper, which had set a standard in > people's minds: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Windows_XP_SP3.png Interesting that you mention this, because looking at a couple of the beta releases for Windows 7, I notice they've gone for a wallpaper that looks *really* close to the Fedora 9 default wallpaper: http://www.askvg.com/download-windows-7-official-wallpaper-shown-at-pdc-2008/ http://www.askvg.com/download-windows-7-beta-build-6936-default-desktop-wallpaper/ I suppose one could take the position that if Microsoft does it, it's bad, but we should recognize they have a lot of money to spend on design, and they've come up with something very close to what you, the Fedora Artwork team, did in the past year with free tools and open processes. That speaks volumes for this team in my opinion. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stickster at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 15:42:53 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:42:53 -0500 Subject: Wallpaper for Beta? In-Reply-To: <676892.90002.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20090304232751.GD18862@localhost.localdomain> <676892.90002.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090305154253.GO22889@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 09:35:52PM -0800, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > From: Paul W. Frields > > > When is the decision going to be made about which one goes in the > > Beta? > > This is what I've got > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Artwork#Beta_Mockups > > It's not perfect, but it's something.... what do you think? WANT. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 5 16:49:25 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:49:25 +0200 Subject: Wallpaper for Beta? In-Reply-To: <790352.25309.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20090304232751.GD18862@localhost.localdomain> <676892.90002.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49AF82DC.4040309@nicubunu.ro> <932306.4533.qm@web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49AFCE2C.9030004@nicubunu.ro> <790352.25309.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49B00295.5080008@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Would you mind applying those changes to the newer mockup I posted to the wiki last night? I can't apply the same changes sing the image is different, but I tried something: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Artwork_F11_Betamockup1_n.jpg https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Artwork_F11_Betamockup1_n.xcf.bz2 Personally I like a bit better this way: the "color adjustment" layer was removes since it made the sky more cyan and the color balance for the "background" was altered to reduce the cyan more. Also the "Cliff overlay" layer was removed and the color balance of the "Cliff - Base" was altered to make it greener. But I am not entirely happy with what I did... -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 5 16:55:10 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:55:10 +0200 Subject: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 36, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: <627148.40401.qm@web51306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <627148.40401.qm@web51306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49B003EE.8020801@nicubunu.ro> brian hurren wrote: > Just a quick unrelated question. Is it too early to suggest ideas for > fedora12? Yes, is a bit earlier since we don't know how the process will be going (for F11 we tried something new, tying the theme to the release name and going with a single concept). But if you have some idea, you can create a wiki page about it and when the time will come, bring it into discussion. > I have also done an animation course, is there anyway that I could help > out with this? Or any other design projects I could help with? There are a number of open requests begging for attention in the Design Service queue: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService Also, Martin and Luya could probably use some help with the Echo theme: https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/ Tell us more about animation, probably we can use some (as long as they are in Free formats and preferably developed with Open tools). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From martin.sourada at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 17:44:59 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:44:59 +0100 Subject: [echo-perspective] New computer icon set Message-ID: <1236275099.3195.7.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Hi, I've created a computer icon [1] for echo-perspective. I was having pretty serious difficulties with the keyboard design, so I decided to rather adapt the mango one [2]. Since it's also CC-BY-SA it should be OK. Comments welcome, Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo-perspective/computer.svg [2] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/tango/tango-icon-library/tree/svg/input-keyboard.svg -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: computer.png Type: image/png Size: 37582 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I made a slight modification with removal of wire as some keyboards are wireless. http://luya.fedorapeople.org/echo/devices/computer.svg - -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Designer E: luya at fedoraproject.org W: http://thefinalzone.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmw+dQACgkQa10Jb0NOz+Eb3wCgk2p4uFbw62jkNq1w11NU9Xps 87kAnjt7Inj1PSNgTb+nd1rOVaBGdJ1+ =JuE1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: computer.png Type: image/png Size: 34849 bytes Desc: not available URL: From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 10:41:39 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:41:39 +0100 Subject: [echo-perspective] New computer icon set In-Reply-To: <49B0FB8B.9070403@fedoraproject.org> References: <1236275099.3195.7.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <49B0FB8B.9070403@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1236336099.2817.27.camel@pc-notebook> On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 02:31 -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > 256x256 version has detailed keyboard meaning a lot of time were spent > for name of input. > I wonder how that will work out as standalone. Perhaps in the future we > can adapt from Macbook layout. Standalone it looks pretty good as well as you can see in http://jimmac.musichall.cz/wipicons/Tango-NG//input-keyboard.png > I made a slight modification with removal of wire as some keyboards are > wireless. > > http://luya.fedorapeople.org/echo/devices/computer.svg > The wire appears to still be there... Perhaps you uploaded wrong version? Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm also extremely picky about em dashes, and we'll | make sure we use those correctly in the finished book. :D Blame my prof for torturing me for using hyphen for mockup. - -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Designer P: (604) 682-6618 E: luya at fedoraproject.org W: http://thefinalzone.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmw/pMACgkQa10Jb0NOz+FxjgCfSe//imcJ9tSFk5rFCZ6Eu3oh 7rMAn1Yzxl9hRiv3KeALrOW4ilInvmRm =v7JS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From luya at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 6 11:00:53 2009 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:00:53 -0800 Subject: [echo-perspective] New computer icon set In-Reply-To: <1236336099.2817.27.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1236275099.3195.7.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <49B0FB8B.9070403@fedoraproject.org> <1236336099.2817.27.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <49B10265.1030402@fedoraproject.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Martin Sourada a ?crit : | |> I made a slight modification with removal of wire as some keyboards are |> wireless. |> |> http://luya.fedorapeople.org/echo/devices/computer.svg |> | The wire appears to still be there... Perhaps you uploaded wrong | version? | | Martin I indeed uploaded wrong version. Link should get the right one. - -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Designer E: luya at fedoraproject.org W: http://thefinalzone.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmxAmIACgkQa10Jb0NOz+E1kACfbi0cAMG2Tr4b7m6Y4kTKZW9h ziIAn25xxqsU427+q1uBxc8+EfT+JH2i =TGLH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Mar 6 12:16:22 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:16:22 +0200 Subject: New and experimental Inkscape build Message-ID: <49B11416.8040108@nicubunu.ro> Probably you saw a few days ago when Lubomir blogged about the Inkscape development snapshot landing in Rawhide: http://v3.sk/~lkundrak/blog/entries/inkscape-snapshot-rawhide.html He also has something tasty for us, those who are still on F10, a special build, interesting to see what's new in Inkscape land and also help with the QA (I have a feeling Inkscape 0.47 will not be released in due time for F11, so if the development snapshot tested by *us* will prove good enough, we may have that): http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1220425 Warning: that is a build that may eat babies and kick cats... however, it installed on my system and I don't have anything major to complain after 20 minutes of working with it. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 22:01:38 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:01:38 +0100 Subject: Picture Book Mockup In-Reply-To: <49B0FE94.9030304@fedoraproject.org> References: <810133.54491.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1236129640.49add76883945@ssl.mecca.ca> <1236150458.49ae28ba7aed6@ssl.mecca.ca> <20090304221850.GE3064@gmail.com> <49B0FE94.9030304@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1236376898.23051.3.camel@pc-notebook> On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 02:44 -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > Ian Weller a ?crit : > | On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 11:07:38PM -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > |> Setting in critic mode: > |> Did you use hyphen or em dashes in first and last paragraph? > |> Careful with the widow at the end of last paragraph? > |> Title "Chapter 2: Friends" is hard to read due to similar hue. > Enlighten it > |> might help. > |> > | This is a *mockup*. I'm also extremely picky about em dashes, and we'll > | make sure we use those correctly in the finished book. :D > Blame my prof for torturing me for using hyphen for mockup. Well, it makes things more effective when correct typography is used right from the start (hence why you prof. has been torturing you for hyphens even in mock-ups) ;-) Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Mar 7 13:57:50 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 08:57:50 -0500 Subject: [RFC] Newslater template for Fedoranews. Message-ID: Hi, I was just thinking about it. Currently, It is sent as a plaintext mail. A nice template and sending it as a newslater can make it more professional looking. I think we can work on it... What do you think? -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Sat Mar 7 15:40:00 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 21:10:00 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] [RFC] Newslater template for Fedoranews. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I was talking about something like this: http://susmit.fedorapeople.org/FedoraNews/FedoraNews.pdf The template is also available at the same directory. Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from: Calcutta Wb India. From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Sun Mar 8 04:38:22 2009 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 10:08:22 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] [RFC] Newslater template for Fedoranews. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35586fc00903072038u76c36313ma725af22e6fe8313@mail.gmail.com> [should this move to Fedora Marketing really ?] On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 7:27 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > I was just thinking about it. > Currently, It is sent as a plaintext mail. The plain text is a good thing because, it could also be automated to be sent out to all Ambassadors (and, those who choose to receive it via a subscribe_to_newsletter link on the site) and, a whole lot of folks like plain text. I know I do ;) > A nice template and sending it as a newslater can make it more > professional looking. > I think we can work on it... > > What do you think? That makes it an easy document to print out and put up at the various LUGs that are at Universities etc. So, it is a win as well. Brilliant idea though. Do you also want to ask the beat writers about their opinion ? -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work From sherry151 at gmail.com Sat Mar 7 16:55:52 2009 From: sherry151 at gmail.com (Rangeen Basu) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 22:25:52 +0530 Subject: [Ambassadors] [RFC] Newslater template for Fedoranews. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:10 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Hi, > > I was talking about something like this: > http://susmit.fedorapeople.org/FedoraNews/FedoraNews.pdf > > The template is also available at the same directory. > Thanks. > > That is catchy and more exciting to read than plain text. -- Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury Fedora Ambassador sherry151 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jlaska at redhat.com Mon Mar 9 19:28:02 2009 From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:28:02 +0000 Subject: Design Server Request - beaker project Message-ID: <1236626882.9607.110.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com> Greetings, The beaker project [1] intends to provide a fully automated test execution framework. While the project is rather early in development, the suggestion came up from Ondrej Hudlicky that we could use a logo. I've created a design request in the wiki (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService#Beaker_logo). The fedora-art team has done some great designs in recent past ([2] and [3]) for fedora-qa ... is there anyone who can help build a logo for the beaker project? Thanks, James [1] http://beaker.fedorahosted.org [2] https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/6/65/QA.png [3] http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/varios/QA.png -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Frields) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:46:34 -0400 Subject: Design Server Request - beaker project In-Reply-To: <108220.72902.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <1236626882.9607.110.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com> <108220.72902.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090309204634.GA11698@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 01:41:05PM -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi, > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: James Laska > > > The fedora-art team has done some great designs in recent past ([2] and > > [3]) for fedora-qa ... is there anyone who can help build a logo for the > > beaker project? > > Attached is a sketch Paul came up with. ...for which I apologize. ;-) One funny thing I just noticed about the sketch: The stirring utensil magically disappears beneath the rim of the beaker, while the liquid inside is clearly visible. Realism FAIL! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ryanlerch at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 21:21:41 2009 From: ryanlerch at gmail.com (ryan lerch) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:21:41 +1000 Subject: [Ambassadors] [RFC] Newslater template for Fedoranews. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <671a617b0903091421v106f04f7p462ab809e60b3eb6@mail.gmail.com> i have previously explored using publican[1] for the FWN, we could make a special brand, and produce chunked html, html single and pdfs. There is already a fedora brand that could be tweaked for this. An example of the fedora brand can be seen in the release notes mockups i have been working on [2] cheers, ryanlerch [1] https://fedorahosted.org/publican/ [2] http://ryanlerch.fedorapeople.org/Release_Notes/ 2009/3/8 Rangeen Basu : > > > On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:10 PM, susmit shannigrahi > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I was talking about something like this: >> http://susmit.fedorapeople.org/FedoraNews/FedoraNews.pdf >> >> The template is also available at the same directory. >> Thanks. >> > That is catchy and more exciting to read than plain text. > -- > Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury > Fedora Ambassador > sherry151 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > From luya at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 10 06:17:11 2009 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 22:17:11 -0800 Subject: Design Server Request - beaker project In-Reply-To: <20090309204634.GA11698@localhost.localdomain> References: <1236626882.9607.110.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com> <108220.72902.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090309204634.GA11698@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1236665831.49b605e706862@ssl.mecca.ca> Quoting "Paul W. Frields" : > One funny thing I just noticed about the sketch: The stirring utensil > magically disappears beneath the rim of the beaker, while the liquid > inside is clearly visible. Realism FAIL! Don't feel bad. You were sketching ideas for logo. Sometime the best one is not from designers themselves . =)-- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Design E: luya at fedoraproject.org W: www.thefinalzone.net (temporary in Flash for Portfolio Show) From markg85 at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 10:02:34 2009 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:02:34 +0100 Subject: [echo-perspective] New computer icon set In-Reply-To: <1236275099.3195.7.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> References: <1236275099.3195.7.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80903100302t14b4ca17m9628044a592edb91@mail.gmail.com> That icon looks.. odd If you ask me the lightest part of the keyboard is lighter then the lightest part os the screen. The darkest part of the keyboard is most certainly a lot lighter then the darkest part of the screen. (did that make sence?) My suggestion would be to make the bottom of the screen as dark as the bottom of the keyboard. And the same goos for the top of the screen holder (or how is that called) the top there should be as dark as the bottom of the keyboard. I hope this maked some sence.. kinda hard to explain it. Other then that it's a nice icon! 2009/3/5 Martin Sourada : > Hi, > > I've created a computer icon [1] for echo-perspective. I was having > pretty serious difficulties with the keyboard design, so I decided to > rather adapt the mango one [2]. Since it's also CC-BY-SA it should be > OK. > > Comments welcome, > Martin > > References: > [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo-perspective/computer.svg > [2] > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/tango/tango-icon-library/tree/svg/input-keyboard.svg > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > From jlaska at redhat.com Tue Mar 10 13:23:18 2009 From: jlaska at redhat.com (James Laska) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:23:18 -0400 Subject: Design Server Request - beaker project In-Reply-To: <1236626882.9607.110.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com> References: <1236626882.9607.110.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1236691398.17281.60.camel@flatline.devel.redhat.com> On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 15:28 -0400, James Laska wrote: > Greetings, > > The beaker project [1] intends to provide a fully automated test > execution framework. While the project is rather early in development, > the suggestion came up from Ondrej Hudlicky that we could use a logo. > I've created a design request in the wiki > (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService#Beaker_logo). Updated the wiki with some mock-ups provided by Ondrej Hudlicky. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Beaker.png https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Beaker1.png Thanks, James -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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While the project is rather early in development, > the suggestion came up from Ondrej Hudlicky that we could use a logo. > I've created a design request in the wiki > (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService#Beaker_logo). Updated the wiki with some mock-ups provided by Ondrej Hudlicky. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Beaker.png https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Beaker1.png Thanks, James _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list From mlanglie at redhat.com Tue Mar 10 18:10:54 2009 From: mlanglie at redhat.com (Michael Langlie) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Design Server Request - beaker project In-Reply-To: <476108801.549531236708555398.JavaMail.root@zmail06.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> Message-ID: <81684063.549671236708654763.JavaMail.root@zmail06.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> Here is a variation of Eve's logo: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Beaker-logo-1b.png https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Beaker-logo-1b.svg Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evangeline McGlynn" To: "Fedora Art List" Cc: "Ondrej Hudlicky" Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:51:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Design Server Request - beaker project Two suggestions: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Beaker_eve1.png https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Beaker_eve2.png eve ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Laska" To: fedora-art-list at redhat.com Cc: "Ondrej Hudlicky" Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:23:18 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Design Server Request - beaker project On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 15:28 -0400, James Laska wrote: > Greetings, > > The beaker project [1] intends to provide a fully automated test > execution framework. While the project is rather early in development, > the suggestion came up from Ondrej Hudlicky that we could use a logo. > I've created a design request in the wiki > (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService#Beaker_logo). Updated the wiki with some mock-ups provided by Ondrej Hudlicky. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Beaker.png https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Beaker1.png Thanks, James _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list From tatica at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 10 19:39:49 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:09:49 +1930 Subject: Media Cover for LATAM Message-ID: <27a6293b0903101239g50091a0bma97857ee57ac8f46@mail.gmail.com> Hi!!! I have translate the media artwork for LATAM. Here's the link. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F10 bye!!! -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And the same goos for the top of the screen holder (or how > is that called) the top there should be as dark as the bottom of the > keyboard. > > I hope this maked some sence.. kinda hard to explain it. > Other then that it's a nice icon! > Hi Mark, Thanks for your suggestions, but I am afraid I cannot do anything about that. First, the monitor and the keyboard a lighted slightly differently, considering the are positioned differently (vertical vs. horizontal) so there are bound to be some differences in lightness/contrast. Also the keyboard is not necessarily from the same material as the monitor and as a result it might have different light reflection/diffraction/scattering properties. And finally, I've tried darker keyboards and I didn't like them, I also tried lighter displays and didn't liked them as well. Show me way out of this dilema and I'd be happy :-) Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Subodh Bhagat From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed Mar 11 11:39:13 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:39:13 +0200 Subject: theme song In-Reply-To: <49B79551.6010103@gmail.com> References: <49B79551.6010103@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49B7A2E1.9060208@nicubunu.ro> Subodh wrote: > Hello, Hi, > I am not sure if this is the right place, but just to start with I > am putting my query here. It sounds like a good place, even if we lack people with a background in music. > Do we have something like a theme song for fedora? Either lyrics or a > composition? We don't have a theme song and I think we could use one. > I am a composer/arranger and have my own home studio setup. I can work > things out if some collaborates for the lyrics and ideas. > > so........................ I think you will have to take the lead in this and give us small and basic tasks which can be accomplished by newbies in this area. BTW, are some of your creations available online? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From anton.cost at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 13:05:16 2009 From: anton.cost at gmail.com (Konstantinos Antonakoglou) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:05:16 +0200 Subject: theme song In-Reply-To: <49B79551.6010103@gmail.com> References: <49B79551.6010103@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1236776716.3080.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 16:11 +0530, Subodh wrote: > Do we have something like a theme song for fedora? Either lyrics or a > composition? I'd like to ask about sounds like the start-up sound etc. Is there any room for additions? or even improvements/changes? > I am a composer/arranger and have my own home studio setup. I can > work things out if some collaborates for the lyrics and ideas. > Sounds great! I got some music skills (compose and play) too. I haven't uploaded my work yet (I will soon)...Which software do you use? To be more exact, do you use open source software in Fedora? I use Ardour (for mastering), Zynaddsubfx (just excellent!) , hydrogen and Qsynth (poor quality sounds), all collaborating beautifully thanks to JACK. In proprietary and generally in software, I guess there is nothing better than Reason 4. -- Konstantinos Antonakoglou PGP key: 0xC9E2E16B constanton @ Freenode -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From my experience, a new sound theme should be *really great* in order to surpass the opinion that we should stay with the upstream default no matter what. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From wonderer4711 at gmx.de Wed Mar 11 22:16:00 2009 From: wonderer4711 at gmx.de (wonderer) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:16:00 +0100 Subject: theme song In-Reply-To: <49B79551.6010103@gmail.com> References: <49B79551.6010103@gmail.com> Message-ID: <49B83820.6010402@gmx.de> Hy, > > Do we have something like a theme song for fedora? Either lyrics or a > composition? Sounds like a good idea (after some are working on a picture book that would be the next step I guess). Some ideas: * make it under the cc licence * compose and buidl it over the Internet * we have the 4 Foundations - lets try to implement them ** friends (eg. fedora grooves from around the world) ** freedom (eg. the theme itself...) ** features (eg. I myself have some experience in Studiomusic, maybe I can ask some international known guys...) ** first (eg. the first Fedora-album?!) I also think of ideas like a contest. Like http://www.openmusiccontest.org/ * musicians from all over the world could send files * a jury of e.g. some of our developers and others select some * Artwork from inside... mit freundlichen Gr??en / best regards Henrik Heigl - wonderer at fedoraproject.org From stickster at gmail.com Wed Mar 11 23:11:41 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:11:41 -0400 Subject: theme song In-Reply-To: <49B79551.6010103@gmail.com> References: <49B79551.6010103@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090311231141.GA4502@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 04:11:21PM +0530, Subodh wrote: > Hello, > I am not sure if this is the right place, but just to start with I am > putting my query here. > > Do we have something like a theme song for fedora? Either lyrics or a > composition? > > I am a composer/arranger and have my own home studio setup. I can work > things out if some collaborates for the lyrics and ideas. > > so........................ I think song in general is a great idea. I'm a musician myself and an appreciator of songwriters. I also have pretty strong feelings that there will probably never be a truly great song about software. But a song about something that Fedora holds dear seems like a perfectly awesome idea to me. What about a song about friendship and community? And if Greg DeKoenigsberg suggests a workers' anthem, please ignore him. ;-) -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mspevack at redhat.com Thu Mar 12 06:10:35 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:10:35 +0100 (CET) Subject: theme song In-Reply-To: <20090311231141.GA4502@localhost.localdomain> References: <49B79551.6010103@gmail.com> <20090311231141.GA4502@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: > But a song about something that Fedora holds dear seems like a > perfectly awesome idea to me. What about a song about friendship and > community? And if Greg DeKoenigsberg suggests a workers' anthem, > please ignore him. ;-) Greg is working on a tune called "The Year of the Linux Desktop". I for one can't wait to hear it performed at FUDCon. --Max From sbhagat at redhat.com Wed Mar 11 09:20:06 2009 From: sbhagat at redhat.com (Subodh) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:50:06 +0530 Subject: theme song Message-ID: <49B78246.9030802@redhat.com> Hello, I am not sure if this is the right place, but just to start with I am putting my query here. Do we have something like a theme song for fedora? Either lyrics or a composition? I am a composer/arranger and have my own home studio setup. I can work things out if some collaborates for the lyrics and ideas. so........................ Regards, Subodh Bhagat From affix at FedoraProject.org Thu Mar 12 08:52:01 2009 From: affix at FedoraProject.org (Keiran Smith) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:52:01 +0000 Subject: theme song In-Reply-To: References: <49B79551.6010103@gmail.com> <20090311231141.GA4502@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Well I have Experience in Song Writing, I also play Guitar. If anyone wants to help I will be willing to start writing some music for fedora :D On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > But a song about something that Fedora holds dear seems like a perfectly >> awesome idea to me. What about a song about friendship and community? And >> if Greg DeKoenigsberg suggests a workers' anthem, please ignore him. ;-) >> > > Greg is working on a tune called "The Year of the Linux Desktop". I for > one can't wait to hear it performed at FUDCon. > > --Max > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Keiran Smith - Fedora Ambassador / BugZapper - - Free Software Foundation Associate - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 12 09:58:31 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:58:31 +0200 Subject: theme song In-Reply-To: <49B83820.6010402@gmx.de> References: <49B79551.6010103@gmail.com> <49B83820.6010402@gmx.de> Message-ID: <49B8DCC7.8040303@nicubunu.ro> wonderer wrote: > Hy, >> Do we have something like a theme song for fedora? Either lyrics or a >> composition? > Sounds like a good idea (after some are working on a picture book that > would be the next step I guess). Only that if does not need to block on the photo book, some of us working on that (like me) may nob be skilled with music or with composing English lyrics... and I believe we have enough people for multiple projects going at the same time. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 12 13:10:18 2009 From: cassmodiah at fedoraproject.org (Simon Wesp) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:10:18 +0100 Subject: theme song In-Reply-To: <49B79551.6010103@gmail.com> References: <49B79551.6010103@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090312141018.66240bcf@fedoraproject.org> Subodh : > Do we have something like a theme song for fedora? Either lyrics or a > composition? I love this Idea. Do you know OpenBSD? They have Release-Songs. I'm not a OpenBSD-User, but i look forward to openBSD-Realeases, because I love the songs.. -- Mit freundlichen Gr??en aus dem sch?nen Hainzell Simon Wesp The G in GNU stands for GNU http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SimonWesp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From markg85 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 21:21:45 2009 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:21:45 +0100 Subject: [echo-perspective] New computer icon set In-Reply-To: <1236716941.14743.5.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1236275099.3195.7.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <6e24a8e80903100302t14b4ca17m9628044a592edb91@mail.gmail.com> <1236716941.14743.5.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80903121421ifc66e40ub7ab8a6830d44632@mail.gmail.com> Just something else i just noticed. The screen inside that monitor is missing something.. something like an inside border (don't know how that's called).. The thing i mean is that the screen itself (the flat panel) and the outline seem to be on the same depth now (no shadows) while the screens themselves normally are pushed back a little in the casing creating some kind of bevel(?). I hope you can do something with this vague suggestion.. really hard to explain when you don't know how it's called ^_^ i will see if i can change something in this screen in the weekend (no promises!) Another thing i noticed (in firefox when clicking on the SVG) is that the text on the keyboard looks really strange and so black... i think that should be changed a bit to dark gray. And perhaps a completely different idea for a monitor (the one i'm looking at right now while typing this) http://www.samsung.com/nl/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=computersperipherals&type=monitors&subtype=lcd&model_cd=LS20PEBSFV/EDC# a black monitor! (since you tend to be liking every icon in a darker theme anyway). The design of that monitor is nice and would fit perfectly with a black keyboard as well. And the keyboard i use : http://www.3t.hu/images/Logitech%20ultra%20flat.jpg remake both in icon style and you will probably have a perfect icon for: - Monitor - Keyboard - Desktop - and all that have a monitor and/or a keyboard in them 2009/3/10 Martin Sourada : > On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 11:02 +0100, Mark wrote: >> That icon looks.. odd >> If you ask me the lightest part of the keyboard is lighter then the >> lightest part os the screen. >> The darkest part of the keyboard is most certainly a lot lighter then >> the darkest part of the screen. (did that make sence?) My suggestion >> would be to make the bottom of the screen as dark as the bottom of the >> keyboard. And the same goos for the top of the screen holder (or how >> is that called) the top there should be as dark as the bottom of the >> keyboard. >> >> I hope this maked some sence.. kinda hard to explain it. >> Other then that it's a nice icon! >> > Hi Mark, > > Thanks for your suggestions, but I am afraid I cannot do anything about > that. First, the monitor and the keyboard a lighted slightly > differently, considering the are positioned differently (vertical vs. > horizontal) so there are bound to be some differences in > lightness/contrast. Also the keyboard is not necessarily from the same > material as the monitor and as a result it might have different light > reflection/diffraction/scattering properties. > > And finally, I've tried darker keyboards and I didn't like them, I also > tried lighter displays and didn't liked them as well. Show me way out of > this dilema and I'd be happy :-) > > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > From hydra84 at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 23:03:23 2009 From: hydra84 at gmail.com (Paolo Leoni) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:03:23 +0100 Subject: Fedora 11 Beta release banner Message-ID: <1799f9cf0903121603u7e98fb19t87ba1deb12a112e9@mail.gmail.com> Hi there, we are near to F11 Beta release, so I've two candidates for the "beta release banner": http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_1.png http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_1.svg http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_2.png http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_2.svg The first is a non-themed version, while the second uses a part of Mo's wallpaper mockup. -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Mar 12 23:13:57 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:43:57 +0530 Subject: Fedora 11 Beta release banner In-Reply-To: <1799f9cf0903121603u7e98fb19t87ba1deb12a112e9@mail.gmail.com> References: <1799f9cf0903121603u7e98fb19t87ba1deb12a112e9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49B99735.6020702@fedoraproject.org> Paolo Leoni wrote: > Hi there, we are near to F11 Beta release, so I've two candidates for > the "beta release banner": > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_1.png > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_1.svg > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_2.png > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_2.svg > > The first is a non-themed version, while the second uses a part of Mo's > wallpaper mockup. Like the second one, way better. Text is more readable and it matches the beta release wallpaper. Thank you, for working on this. Rahul From stickster at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 23:57:04 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:57:04 -0400 Subject: Fedora 11 Beta release banner In-Reply-To: <49B99735.6020702@fedoraproject.org> References: <1799f9cf0903121603u7e98fb19t87ba1deb12a112e9@mail.gmail.com> <49B99735.6020702@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20090312235704.GD333@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 04:43:57AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Paolo Leoni wrote: > > Hi there, we are near to F11 Beta release, so I've two candidates for > > the "beta release banner": > > > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_1.png > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_1.svg > > > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_2.png > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_2.svg > > > > The first is a non-themed version, while the second uses a part of Mo's > > wallpaper mockup. > > Like the second one, way better. Text is more readable and it matches > the beta release wallpaper. Thank you, for working on this. I like it very much too! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stickster at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 00:12:03 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:12:03 -0400 Subject: Banners and splashes Message-ID: <20090313001203.GE333@localhost.localdomain> Hi all you fabulous Artists and Designers, I wanted to ask about two things, backgrounds and other art. BACKGROUNDS: I noticed that Martin produced a package of the leonidas-backgrounds, and F10 users can test it now if they want: http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/leonidas-backgrounds/10.92.1/2.fc11/noarch/leonidas-backgrounds-10.92.1-2.fc11.noarch.rpm I've tried it here on my F10 box and the package works perfectly. (And frankly, I think it's quite lovely, although I have a bit of a problem making out my blue-themed folder icons against the color of the sky sometimes.) Has anyone had a chance to announce this to whatever population we want to test the backgrounds and report back? Do they know what kind of feedback the Artwork team is looking for? OTHER ART: According to the F11 schedule: http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-art-tasks ...splashes and banners are something the Artwork team creates from now until about March 27, two weeks or so from tomorrow. Then they're packaged by March 31, so that they can be tagged and included in the Preview Release. The listed splashes, headers and other art scheduled for March 27 includes: * GNOME splash screen * KDE splash screen * Fullscreen splash for syslinux * GNOME screensaver lock dialog * Square splash for anaconda and firstboot * Anaconda horizontal header * Firstboot vertical header * Fullscreen grub splash * Plymouth bootup/loading graphics * kdm login screen theme Is the listed date of March 27 enough time to produce these various derivations? * * * BTW, the item of creating the Beta Website Banner is listed as to be completed by March 20, and given the previous thread on this list, it looks like that's well underway. Superb! I'm looking forward to another incredibly beautiful release thanks to the talent and hard work you guys apply to each new Fedora. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Fri Mar 13 01:33:56 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fedora 11 Beta release banner In-Reply-To: <1799f9cf0903121603u7e98fb19t87ba1deb12a112e9@mail.gmail.com> References: <1799f9cf0903121603u7e98fb19t87ba1deb12a112e9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <111256.87408.qm@web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Paolo! Thanks for your work! There is one problem though, I can't view any of these files. When I try to visit the URLs I get redirected to: http://im.altervista.org/void.gif Could you please upload these to the wiki? Thanks, ~m From gort.klaatu at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 03:19:38 2009 From: gort.klaatu at gmail.com (Klaatu) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:19:38 -0400 Subject: Fedora 11 Beta release banner In-Reply-To: <111256.87408.qm@web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <1799f9cf0903121603u7e98fb19t87ba1deb12a112e9@mail.gmail.com> <111256.87408.qm@web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: i saw the images, and i like the first. but the second was nifty too. oh and can we make sure that the rounded corners are really transparent? the last banner had little white spots on the rounded edges rather than being transparent so it was truly rounded, if i recall correctly. It looked fine against a white background but obvsiouly against anything else it looked odd. -klaatu On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:33 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Hi Paolo! > > Thanks for your work! There is one problem though, I can't view any of these files. When I try to visit the URLs I get redirected to: http://im.altervista.org/void.gif > > Could you please upload these to the wiki? > > Thanks, > ~m > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- --- uzu linukso. subtenu libera programaro. kotizu al http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml http://www.fedorareloaded.com From kevin.friedemann at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 04:37:44 2009 From: kevin.friedemann at gmail.com (Kevin Friedemann) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:37:44 -0700 Subject: Introduction and First Project Message-ID: <58bdc3b0903122137p54922adan505c1359bc1e7b83@mail.gmail.com> Hello, My name is Kevin Friedemann. I am a young aspiring graphic designer looking for experience and real life examples to work from. I use Fedora 10 but prefer Photoshop over GIMP. I am looking for any open graphic requests you have available at the moment. I'm looking for something easy to start off with. Thanks, -- -Kevin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kevin.friedemann at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 04:48:22 2009 From: kevin.friedemann at gmail.com (Kevin Friedemann) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:48:22 -0700 Subject: [echo-perspective] New computer icon set (Mark) Message-ID: <58bdc3b0903122148t5e218b43gea2db242ccba71ce@mail.gmail.com> That would look really good vectorized. Samsung monitors have that nice curve to them that makes it look really good. Or maybe even make a combination of that Samsung you listed and thisone. The keyboard also fits very well with it. As for a mouse, maybe something like this? (Sorry if it's already been created, i'm new and trying to get in the flow of things.) 2009/3/12 > Send Fedora-art-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-art-list-request at redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-art-list-owner at redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-art-list digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [echo-perspective] New computer icon set (Mark) > 2. Fedora 11 Beta release banner (Paolo Leoni) > 3. Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner (Rahul Sundaram) > 4. Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner (Paul W. Frields) > 5. Banners and splashes (Paul W. Frields) > 6. Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner (M?ir?n Duffy) > 7. Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner (Klaatu) > 8. Introduction and First Project (Kevin Friedemann) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mark > To: Fedora Art List > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:21:45 +0100 > Subject: Re: [echo-perspective] New computer icon set > Just something else i just noticed. > The screen inside that monitor is missing something.. something like > an inside border (don't know how that's called).. > The thing i mean is that the screen itself (the flat panel) and the > outline seem to be on the same depth now (no shadows) while the > screens themselves normally are pushed back a little in the casing > creating some kind of bevel(?). > > I hope you can do something with this vague suggestion.. really hard > to explain when you don't know how it's called ^_^ > i will see if i can change something in this screen in the weekend (no > promises!) > > Another thing i noticed (in firefox when clicking on the SVG) is that > the text on the keyboard looks really strange and so black... i think > that should be changed a bit to dark gray. > > And perhaps a completely different idea for a monitor (the one i'm > looking at right now while typing this) > > http://www.samsung.com/nl/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=computersperipherals&type=monitors&subtype=lcd&model_cd=LS20PEBSFV/EDC# > > a black monitor! (since you tend to be liking every icon in a darker > theme anyway). The design of that monitor is nice and would fit > perfectly with a black keyboard as well. > And the keyboard i use : > http://www.3t.hu/images/Logitech%20ultra%20flat.jpg > > remake both in icon style and you will probably have a perfect icon for: > - Monitor > - Keyboard > - Desktop > - and all that have a monitor and/or a keyboard in them > > 2009/3/10 Martin Sourada : > > On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 11:02 +0100, Mark wrote: > >> That icon looks.. odd > >> If you ask me the lightest part of the keyboard is lighter then the > >> lightest part os the screen. > >> The darkest part of the keyboard is most certainly a lot lighter then > >> the darkest part of the screen. (did that make sence?) My suggestion > >> would be to make the bottom of the screen as dark as the bottom of the > >> keyboard. And the same goos for the top of the screen holder (or how > >> is that called) the top there should be as dark as the bottom of the > >> keyboard. > >> > >> I hope this maked some sence.. kinda hard to explain it. > >> Other then that it's a nice icon! > >> > > Hi Mark, > > > > Thanks for your suggestions, but I am afraid I cannot do anything about > > that. First, the monitor and the keyboard a lighted slightly > > differently, considering the are positioned differently (vertical vs. > > horizontal) so there are bound to be some differences in > > lightness/contrast. Also the keyboard is not necessarily from the same > > material as the monitor and as a result it might have different light > > reflection/diffraction/scattering properties. > > > > And finally, I've tried darker keyboards and I didn't like them, I also > > tried lighter displays and didn't liked them as well. Show me way out of > > this dilema and I'd be happy :-) > > > > Martin > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Paolo Leoni > To: Fedora Art List , > fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:03:23 +0100 > Subject: Fedora 11 Beta release banner > Hi there, we are near to F11 Beta release, so I've two candidates for the > "beta release banner": > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_1.png > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_1.svg > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_2.png > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_2.svg > > The first is a non-themed version, while the second uses a part of Mo's > wallpaper mockup. > > -- > Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Rahul Sundaram > To: Paolo Leoni > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:43:57 +0530 > Subject: Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner > Paolo Leoni wrote: > > Hi there, we are near to F11 Beta release, so I've two candidates for > > the "beta release banner": > > > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_1.png > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_1.svg > > > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_2.png > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_2.svg > > > > The first is a non-themed version, while the second uses a part of Mo's > > wallpaper mockup. > > Like the second one, way better. Text is more readable and it matches > the beta release wallpaper. Thank you, for working on this. > > Rahul > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Paul W. Frields" > To: fedora-art-list at redhat.com, fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:57:04 -0400 > Subject: Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 04:43:57AM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Paolo Leoni wrote: > > > Hi there, we are near to F11 Beta release, so I've two candidates for > > > the "beta release banner": > > > > > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_1.png > > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_1.svg > > > > > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_2.png > > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_2.svg > > > > > > The first is a non-themed version, while the second uses a part of Mo's > > > wallpaper mockup. > > > > Like the second one, way better. Text is more readable and it matches > > the beta release wallpaper. Thank you, for working on this. > > I like it very much too! > > -- > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Paul W. Frields" > To: fedora-art-list at redhat.com > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:12:03 -0400 > Subject: Banners and splashes > Hi all you fabulous Artists and Designers, > > I wanted to ask about two things, backgrounds and other art. > > BACKGROUNDS: > > I noticed that Martin produced a package of the leonidas-backgrounds, > and F10 users can test it now if they want: > > http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/leonidas-backgrounds/10.92.1/2.fc11/noarch/leonidas-backgrounds-10.92.1-2.fc11.noarch.rpm > > I've tried it here on my F10 box and the package works perfectly. > (And frankly, I think it's quite lovely, although I have a bit of a > problem making out my blue-themed folder icons against the color of > the sky sometimes.) Has anyone had a chance to announce this to > whatever population we want to test the backgrounds and report back? > Do they know what kind of feedback the Artwork team is looking for? > > > OTHER ART: > > According to the F11 schedule: > http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-art-tasks > > ...splashes and banners are something the Artwork team creates from > now until about March 27, two weeks or so from tomorrow. Then they're > packaged by March 31, so that they can be tagged and included in the > Preview Release. > > The listed splashes, headers and other art scheduled for March 27 > includes: > > * GNOME splash screen > * KDE splash screen > * Fullscreen splash for syslinux > * GNOME screensaver lock dialog > * Square splash for anaconda and firstboot > * Anaconda horizontal header > * Firstboot vertical header > * Fullscreen grub splash > * Plymouth bootup/loading graphics > * kdm login screen theme > > Is the listed date of March 27 enough time to produce these various > derivations? > > * * * > > BTW, the item of creating the Beta Website Banner is listed as to be > completed by March 20, and given the previous thread on this list, it > looks like that's well underway. Superb! I'm looking forward to > another incredibly beautiful release thanks to the talent and hard > work you guys apply to each new Fedora. > > -- > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: M?ir?n Duffy > To: Fedora Art List , > fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:33:56 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner > > Hi Paolo! > > Thanks for your work! There is one problem though, I can't view any of > these files. When I try to visit the URLs I get redirected to: > http://im.altervista.org/void.gif > > Could you please upload these to the wiki? > > Thanks, > ~m > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Klaatu > To: Fedora Art List > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:19:38 -0400 > Subject: Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner > i saw the images, and i like the first. but the second was nifty too. > > oh and can we make sure that the rounded corners are really > transparent? the last banner had little white spots on the rounded > edges rather than being transparent so it was truly rounded, if i > recall correctly. It looked fine against a white background but > obvsiouly against anything else it looked odd. > > -klaatu > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:33 PM, M?ir?n Duffy > wrote: > > > > Hi Paolo! > > > > Thanks for your work! There is one problem though, I can't view any of > these files. When I try to visit the URLs I get redirected to: > http://im.altervista.org/void.gif > > > > Could you please upload these to the wiki? > > > > Thanks, > > ~m > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > -- > --- > uzu linukso. subtenu libera programaro. > kotizu al http://www.thebadapples.info/ogg.xml > http://www.fedorareloaded.com > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Kevin Friedemann > To: fedora-art-list at redhat.com > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:37:44 -0700 > Subject: Introduction and First Project > Hello, > My name is Kevin Friedemann. I am a young aspiring graphic designer > looking for experience and real life examples to work from. I use Fedora 10 > but prefer Photoshop over GIMP. I am looking for any open graphic requests > you have available at the moment. I'm looking for something easy to start > off with. > > Thanks, > > -- > -Kevin > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- -Kevin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hiran.v at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 04:52:52 2009 From: hiran.v at gmail.com (H) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:22:52 +0530 Subject: [echo-perspective] New computer icon set (Mark) In-Reply-To: <58bdc3b0903122148t5e218b43gea2db242ccba71ce@mail.gmail.com> References: <58bdc3b0903122148t5e218b43gea2db242ccba71ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1b6e7c770903122152x28307a01kfcbc3a74254aaa32@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/13 Kevin Friedemann > That would look really good vectorized. Samsung monitors have that nice > curve to them that makes it look really good. Or maybe even make a > combination of that Samsung you listed and thisone. The keyboard also fits very well with it. As for a mouse, maybe > something like this? > (Sorry if it's already been created, i'm new and trying to get in the flow > of things.) > the second link is not giving me permission to see. i suggest you to use plain text mail, than an HTML one. -- H IRC : HFactor | Phone : 09496346709 | PGP : 4634C034 | W : http://hiran.in Jay London - "I saw a stationery store move." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From inkscaper at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 07:17:53 2009 From: inkscaper at gmail.com (Alexander Smirnov) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:17:53 +0300 Subject: Fedora 11 Beta release banner In-Reply-To: <1799f9cf0903121603u7e98fb19t87ba1deb12a112e9@mail.gmail.com> References: <1799f9cf0903121603u7e98fb19t87ba1deb12a112e9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9b7292430903130017v123b1be5udff36deb6bafa075@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/13 Paolo Leoni > Hi there, we are near to F11 Beta release, so I've two candidates for the > "beta release banner": > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_1.png > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_1.svg > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_2.png > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_2.svg > > The first is a non-themed version, while the second uses a part of Mo's > wallpaper mockup. > > -- > Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > The second is better. Good job. Thank you Paolo. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Mar 13 07:18:02 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:18:02 +0200 Subject: Introduction and First Project In-Reply-To: <58bdc3b0903122137p54922adan505c1359bc1e7b83@mail.gmail.com> References: <58bdc3b0903122137p54922adan505c1359bc1e7b83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49BA08AA.1030109@nicubunu.ro> Kevin Friedemann wrote: > Hello, Hi, > My name is Kevin Friedemann. I am a young aspiring graphic designer > looking for experience and real life examples to work from. I use > Fedora 10 but prefer Photoshop over GIMP. I am looking for any open We are quite proud that our graphics *for* Fedora are made *with* Fedora. But if you are so in love with Windows + Photoshop, we won't deny your choice. And even if GIMP can open .psd files, it *may* not be 100% accurate, so using .xcf is better for collaboration with the rest of the team. > graphic requests you have available at the moment. I'm looking for > something easy to start off with. Then have a look at this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Mar 13 07:23:54 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:23:54 +0200 Subject: Fedora 11 Beta release banner In-Reply-To: References: <1799f9cf0903121603u7e98fb19t87ba1deb12a112e9@mail.gmail.com> <111256.87408.qm@web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49BA0A0A.3040807@nicubunu.ro> Klaatu wrote: > i saw the images, and i like the first. but the second was nifty too. I am in the camp liking the second (themed) version best. Only that the bottom text row seems a bit crammed, the green arrow is small and does not have enough space to breath. > oh and can we make sure that the rounded corners are really > transparent? the last banner had little white spots on the rounded > edges rather than being transparent so it was truly rounded, if i > recall correctly. It looked fine against a white background but > obvsiouly against anything else it looked odd. I tried it agains a black background and it seems OK to me. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From hydra84 at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 09:43:07 2009 From: hydra84 at gmail.com (Paolo Leoni) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:43:07 +0100 Subject: Fedora 11 Beta release banner In-Reply-To: <49BA0A0A.3040807@nicubunu.ro> References: <1799f9cf0903121603u7e98fb19t87ba1deb12a112e9@mail.gmail.com> <111256.87408.qm@web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49BA0A0A.3040807@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1799f9cf0903130243gbda0ddl6dbd396e1c6772a7@mail.gmail.com> Thanks to all for the feedbacks. 2009/3/13 Nicu Buculei >> I am in the camp liking the second (themed) version best. Only that the bottom text row seems a bit crammed, the green >> arrow is small and does not have enough space to breath. I've posted on the wiki (see below for the url) two new versions of both files, with a little kerning of "11" number and the remotion of green arrow (and bigger fonts for the bottom text). 2009/3/13 Klaatu >> the last banner had little white spots on the rounded >> edges rather than being transparent so it was truly rounded, if i >> recall correctly. It looked fine against a white background but >> obvsiouly against anything else it looked odd. In these versions, rounded corners seems to be ok, if you see newly some defects feel free to contact me. 2009/3/13 M?ir?n Duffy >> Thanks for your work! There is one problem though, I can't view any of these files. Sorry for the inconvenience, now the files are on the wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/8/8b/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_1b.svg https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/5/5d/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_1b.png https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/dc/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_2b.svg https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/e/eb/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_2b.png -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The first 'F' and the last 'w' look like they are gasping for air from the corners. I think the top row of text could be kerned just slightly tighter as well. Also, I think it might be better to push the '11' to the left a little to add a little balance from the temple. Other than that, this is fantastic. Thank you for being so great about being on top of the web banners!! This is extremely good work; you've followed our general banner format / font / etc to a T. ~m From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Fri Mar 13 11:56:32 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Introduction and First Project In-Reply-To: <58bdc3b0903122137p54922adan505c1359bc1e7b83@mail.gmail.com> References: <58bdc3b0903122137p54922adan505c1359bc1e7b83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <666405.36604.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Kevin! ________________________________ >From: Kevin Friedemann >My name is Kevin Friedemann. I am a young aspiring graphic designer looking for experience and real life examples to work from. I use Fedora 10 but prefer Photoshop over >GIMP. I am looking for any open graphic requests you have available at the moment. I'm looking for something easy to start off with. Welcome to our team! Glad to hear you are a GIMP fan as well. :) We've got a lot of small projects for the taking at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService - feel free to claim any of these tasks that interest you to work on! If you can tell us a little bit more about your design interests (do you enjoy doing print design? do you like making icons? animations? etc.) then we might be able to suggest something for you as well. ~m From hydra84 at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 13:02:39 2009 From: hydra84 at gmail.com (Paolo Leoni) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:02:39 +0100 Subject: Fedora 11 Beta release banner In-Reply-To: <50036.92505.qm@web50910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <1799f9cf0903121603u7e98fb19t87ba1deb12a112e9@mail.gmail.com> <111256.87408.qm@web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49BA0A0A.3040807@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0903130243gbda0ddl6dbd396e1c6772a7@mail.gmail.com> <50036.92505.qm@web50910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1799f9cf0903130602h29c343bpc260bdc5c0cc7933@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/13 M?ir?n Duffy > > > It still looks like your bottom row of text could be a bit tighter. The > first 'F' and the last 'w' look like they are gasping for air from the > corners. I think the top row of text could be kerned just slightly tighter > as well. Also, I think it might be better to push the '11' to the left a > little to add a little balance from the temple. > Thanks a lot for your feedback. I've posted on the wiki the third version for both, I think that these can be considered almost definitives: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/9/98/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_1c.svg https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/5/5f/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_1c.png https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/0/03/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_2c.svg https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/d3/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_2c.png > Other than that, this is fantastic. Thank you for being so great about > being on top of the web banners!! This is extremely good work; you've > followed our general banner format / font / etc to a T. > Thank you for Mo your appreciations, and thanks to all in general for the positive feedbacks. They make me very happy! :-) -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Fri Mar 13 13:54:23 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 06:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fedora 11 Beta release banner In-Reply-To: <1799f9cf0903130602h29c343bpc260bdc5c0cc7933@mail.gmail.com> References: <1799f9cf0903121603u7e98fb19t87ba1deb12a112e9@mail.gmail.com> <111256.87408.qm@web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49BA0A0A.3040807@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0903130243gbda0ddl6dbd396e1c6772a7@mail.gmail.com> <50036.92505.qm@web50910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1799f9cf0903130602h29c343bpc260bdc5c0cc7933@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <238267.60242.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Paolo! > Thanks a lot for your feedback. I've posted on the wiki the third version for both, I think that these can be considered almost definitives: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/0/03/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_2c.svg https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/d3/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_2c.png This is almost perfect. There's one thing I forgot to mention, the dark outline around the top line of text looked a little strange. I took your SVG and added a dark sky blue blurred outline underneath the text instead to solve the problem of allowing it to stand out from the background and mountain. Let me know what you think: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_2d.png https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_2d.svg ~m From kevin.friedemann at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 14:22:04 2009 From: kevin.friedemann at gmail.com (Kevin Friedemann) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:22:04 -0700 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Introduction_and_First_Project_=28M=E1ir=ED?= =?iso-8859-1?q?n=29?= Message-ID: <58bdc3b0903130722n69e35ac3u4a12cc94a8eb5868@mail.gmail.com> Cool thanks for the link. Most of the designs I do are in Illustrator so that they are in vector format. I can convert it to (almost) any format you need though. I have done a very small amount of print but not enough to really work with it. Usually when I have an idea about a design in my head i'll look up some tutorials and mix and match a little from those. I am pretty good with icons and have some knowledge with Flash animation as well. -- -Kevin 2009/3/13 > Send Fedora-art-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-art-list-request at redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-art-list-owner at redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-art-list digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [echo-perspective] New computer icon set (Mark) (H) > 2. Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner (Alexander Smirnov) > 3. Re: Introduction and First Project (Nicu Buculei) > 4. Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner (Nicu Buculei) > 5. Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner (Paolo Leoni) > 6. Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner (M?ir?n Duffy) > 7. Re: Introduction and First Project (M?ir?n Duffy) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: H > To: Fedora Art List > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:22:52 +0530 > Subject: Re: [echo-perspective] New computer icon set (Mark) > > > 2009/3/13 Kevin Friedemann > >> That would look really good vectorized. Samsung monitors have that nice >> curve to them that makes it look really good. Or maybe even make a >> combination of that Samsung you listed and thisone. The keyboard also fits very well with it. As for a mouse, maybe >> something like this? >> (Sorry if it's already been created, i'm new and trying to get in the flow >> of things.) >> > > the second link is not giving me permission to see. > > i suggest you to use plain text mail, than an HTML one. > -- > H > IRC : HFactor | Phone : 09496346709 | PGP : 4634C034 | W : http://hiran.in > Jay London - "I saw a stationery store move." > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Alexander Smirnov > To: Fedora Art List > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:17:53 +0300 > Subject: Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner > 2009/3/13 Paolo Leoni > >> Hi there, we are near to F11 Beta release, so I've two candidates for the >> "beta release banner": >> >> http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_1.png >> http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_1.svg >> >> http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_2.png >> http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_2.svg >> >> The first is a non-themed version, while the second uses a part of Mo's >> wallpaper mockup. >> >> -- >> Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-art-list mailing list >> Fedora-art-list at redhat.com >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list >> >> > The second is better. Good job. Thank you Paolo. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Nicu Buculei > To: Fedora Art List > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:18:02 +0200 > Subject: Re: Introduction and First Project > Kevin Friedemann wrote: > >> Hello, >> > > Hi, > > My name is Kevin Friedemann. I am a young aspiring graphic designer >> looking for experience and real life examples to work from. I use Fedora 10 >> but prefer Photoshop over GIMP. I am looking for any open >> > > We are quite proud that our graphics *for* Fedora are made *with* Fedora. > But if you are so in love with Windows + Photoshop, we won't deny your > choice. > > And even if GIMP can open .psd files, it *may* not be 100% accurate, so > using .xcf is better for collaboration with the rest of the team. > > graphic requests you have available at the moment. I'm looking for >> something easy to start off with. >> > > Then have a look at this: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ > photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Nicu Buculei > To: Fedora Art List > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:23:54 +0200 > Subject: Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner > Klaatu wrote: > >> i saw the images, and i like the first. but the second was nifty too. >> > > I am in the camp liking the second (themed) version best. Only that the > bottom text row seems a bit crammed, the green arrow is small and does not > have enough space to breath. > > oh and can we make sure that the rounded corners are really >> transparent? the last banner had little white spots on the rounded >> edges rather than being transparent so it was truly rounded, if i >> recall correctly. It looked fine against a white background but >> obvsiouly against anything else it looked odd. >> > > I tried it agains a black background and it seems OK to me. > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ > photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Paolo Leoni > To: Fedora Art List , > fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:43:07 +0100 > Subject: Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner > Thanks to all for the feedbacks. > > > 2009/3/13 Nicu Buculei > > >> I am in the camp liking the second (themed) version best. Only that the > bottom text row seems a bit crammed, the green > >> arrow is small and does not have enough space to breath. > I've posted on the wiki (see below for the url) two new versions of both > files, with a little kerning of "11" number and the remotion of green arrow > (and bigger fonts for the bottom text). > > > 2009/3/13 Klaatu > > >> the last banner had little white spots on the rounded > >> edges rather than being transparent so it was truly rounded, if i > >> recall correctly. It looked fine against a white background but > >> obvsiouly against anything else it looked odd. > > In these versions, rounded corners seems to be ok, if you see newly some > defects feel free to contact me. > > 2009/3/13 M?ir?n Duffy > >> Thanks for your work! There is one problem though, I can't view any of > these files. > > Sorry for the inconvenience, now the files are on the wiki: > > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/8/8b/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_1b.svg > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/5/5d/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_1b.png > > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/dc/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_2b.svg > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/e/eb/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_2b.png > > > > -- > Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: M?ir?n Duffy > To: Paolo Leoni , Fedora Art List < > fedora-art-list at redhat.com>, fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:51:46 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner > > Hi Paolo! > > 2009/3/13 Nicu Buculei > > >> I am in the camp liking the second (themed) version best. Only that the > bottom text row seems a bit crammed, the green > >> arrow is small and does not have enough space to breath. > > Thanks for posting them to the wiki! These both look great! I definitely > agree with everyone else though that #2 is probably the best. > > It still looks like your bottom row of text could be a bit tighter. The > first 'F' and the last 'w' look like they are gasping for air from the > corners. I think the top row of text could be kerned just slightly tighter > as well. Also, I think it might be better to push the '11' to the left a > little to add a little balance from the temple. > > Other than that, this is fantastic. Thank you for being so great about > being on top of the web banners!! This is extremely good work; you've > followed our general banner format / font / etc to a T. > > ~m > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: M?ir?n Duffy > To: Fedora Art List > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:56:32 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Re: Introduction and First Project > > Hi Kevin! > ________________________________ > >From: Kevin Friedemann > > >My name is Kevin Friedemann. I am a young aspiring graphic designer > looking for experience and real life examples to work from. I use Fedora 10 > but prefer Photoshop over >GIMP. I am looking for any open graphic requests > you have available at the moment. I'm looking for something easy to start > off with. > > Welcome to our team! Glad to hear you are a GIMP fan as well. :) > > We've got a lot of small projects for the taking at > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService - feel free to claim > any of these tasks that interest you to work on! If you can tell us a little > bit more about your design interests (do you enjoy doing print design? do > you like making icons? animations? etc.) then we might be able to suggest > something for you as well. > > ~m > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- -Kevin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I took your SVG > and added a dark sky blue blurred outline underneath the text instead to > solve the problem of allowing it to stand out from the background and > mountain. Let me know what you think: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_2d.png > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_2d.svg > > I think that we can erase the word "almost"...that is perfect! ;) Thank you! -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Mar 13 14:42:23 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:42:23 +0200 Subject: Banners and splashes In-Reply-To: <20090313001203.GE333@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090313001203.GE333@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49BA70CF.3020907@nicubunu.ro> Paul W. Frields wrote: > Hi all you fabulous Artists and Designers, > > I wanted to ask about two things, backgrounds and other art. > > BACKGROUNDS: > > I noticed that Martin produced a package of the leonidas-backgrounds, > and F10 users can test it now if they want: > http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/leonidas-backgrounds/10.92.1/2.fc11/noarch/leonidas-backgrounds-10.92.1-2.fc11.noarch.rpm > > I've tried it here on my F10 box and the package works perfectly. > (And frankly, I think it's quite lovely, although I have a bit of a > problem making out my blue-themed folder icons against the color of > the sky sometimes.) Has anyone had a chance to announce this to > whatever population we want to test the backgrounds and report back? > Do they know what kind of feedback the Artwork team is looking for? I definitely mentioned it on FWN and also Martin blogged (so it was pushed to planet) > OTHER ART: > > According to the F11 schedule: > http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-art-tasks > > ...splashes and banners are something the Artwork team creates from > now until about March 27, two weeks or so from tomorrow. Then they're > packaged by March 31, so that they can be tagged and included in the > Preview Release. > > The listed splashes, headers and other art scheduled for March 27 > includes: > > * GNOME splash screen Lately we didn't bother with this as it is disabled by default, but I believe in the end someone made an image. > * KDE splash screen For the last releases the guys from the KDE got involved with that and a splash was produced. > * GNOME screensaver lock dialog Another one disabled by default. Even more, it is on its way to obsolence, it will be replaced by the GDM screen (however, I can't say when, the Desktop guys are not very talkative about that). > * Fullscreen splash for syslinux > * Square splash for anaconda and firstboot > * Anaconda horizontal header > * Firstboot vertical header > * Fullscreen grub splash Usually those are derived from the wallpaper, so we will probably address them after the wallpaper is in a final state. Since we are still stuck with GRUB 1.x. the GRUB splash will be probably the hardest, needing an original (symplified) graphic. > * Plymouth bootup/loading graphics This area is poorly documented (is very new) but we have an "expert" in Charlie Brej. My personal option would be to use the default background (the temple landscape picture) and a progress bar. > * kdm login screen theme Agian, the KDE guys will most likely take the initiative here. > Is the listed date of March 27 enough time to produce these various > derivations? Is doable but we should not let it for the last few days. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Mar 13 14:43:51 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:43:51 +0200 Subject: Introduction and First Project =?utf-8?b?KE3DoWlyw61uKQ==?= In-Reply-To: <58bdc3b0903130722n69e35ac3u4a12cc94a8eb5868@mail.gmail.com> References: <58bdc3b0903130722n69e35ac3u4a12cc94a8eb5868@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49BA7127.10306@nicubunu.ro> Kevin Friedemann wrote: > Cool thanks for the link. Most of the designs I do are in Illustrator > so that they are in vector format. I can convert it to (almost) any > format you need though. I have done a very small amount of print but > not enough to really work with it. Usually when I have an idea about a > design in my head i'll look up some tutorials and mix and match a little If you work in Illustrator, please do not sent the files in .ai format. Inkscape can import such files, but the import is far from perfect. You can use SVG, which is a Free format, but please take care to create clean SVG (in my experience, the SVGs exported from Illustrator are very bloated and sometime include embedded bitmpas). > from those. I am pretty good with icons and have some knowledge with > Flash animation as well. Please, no Flash animations, we don't have tools in Fedora to edit them and the Free players are not reliable. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From subodh.bhagat at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 14:54:06 2009 From: subodh.bhagat at gmail.com (Subodh) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:24:06 +0530 Subject: theme song In-Reply-To: <49B7BB25.4090701@nicubunu.ro> References: <49B79551.6010103@gmail.com> <1236776716.3080.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49B7BB25.4090701@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <49BA738E.2050208@gmail.com> Konstantinos, Nicu, Hello there. Yes I am already almost done with a new sound theme which I am soon gonna upload at the people.fedora space. Get ready to bump me with critics :) . I intentionally did not refer to any standard or base sound theme, as I wanted just to put in whatever I feel it should be like. And to an extent, with the local reviews it seems that the sound is a bit different from the regular themes. The start-up theme is important here because its like 50% of the whole theme. I am still working on it and in about a couple of weeks I think it should be ready if all the packaging and all goes well. --subodh Nicu Buculei wrote: > Konstantinos Antonakoglou wrote: >> On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 16:11 +0530, Subodh wrote: >>> Do we have something like a theme song for fedora? Either lyrics or >>> a composition? >> >> I'd like to ask about sounds like the start-up sound etc. Is there any >> room for additions? or even improvements/changes? > > Back in August-September someone (Chris Norman) tried to come with a > sound theme, which obviously for a first try was not that great and we > were lousy with feedback and discouraged him. > > From my experience, a new sound theme should be *really great* in > order to surpass the opinion that we should stay with the upstream > default no matter what. > From subodh.bhagat at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 15:00:36 2009 From: subodh.bhagat at gmail.com (Subodh) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:30:36 +0530 Subject: theme song In-Reply-To: References: <49B79551.6010103@gmail.com> <20090311231141.GA4502@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49BA7514.6040806@gmail.com> Hello Keiran, Thats great. Why not just start then and put in your work here in the forum. We can have inputs on it and even I will have something inhand to start with. --subodh Keiran Smith wrote: > Well I have Experience in Song Writing, I also play Guitar. If anyone > wants to help I will be willing to start writing some music for fedora :D > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Max Spevack > wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Mar 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > But a song about something that Fedora holds dear seems like a > perfectly awesome idea to me. What about a song about > friendship and community? And if Greg DeKoenigsberg suggests > a workers' anthem, please ignore him. ;-) > > > Greg is working on a tune called "The Year of the Linux Desktop". > I for one can't wait to hear it performed at FUDCon. > > --Max > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > -- > Keiran Smith > - Fedora Ambassador / BugZapper - > > - Free Software Foundation Associate - > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > From kevin.friedemann at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 15:26:57 2009 From: kevin.friedemann at gmail.com (Kevin Friedemann) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:26:57 -0700 Subject: Fedora USB Distribution Kit Message-ID: <58bdc3b0903130826s19b5857an75aa50d4632c05b0@mail.gmail.com> I think I'll pick this one up. I have a few quick questions though. The requester wants a DVD artwork, USB Station artwork, and box artwork. I understand the first and third, but what is the second? Also are there any size regulations, etc that I have to follow by? -- -Kevin 2009/3/13 > Send Fedora-art-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-art-list-request at redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-art-list-owner at redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-art-list digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner (Paolo Leoni) > 2. Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner (M?ir?n Duffy) > 3. Re: Introduction and First Project (M?ir?n) (Kevin Friedemann) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Paolo Leoni > To: Fedora Art List , > fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:02:39 +0100 > Subject: Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner > > > 2009/3/13 M?ir?n Duffy > >> >> >> It still looks like your bottom row of text could be a bit tighter. The >> first 'F' and the last 'w' look like they are gasping for air from the >> corners. I think the top row of text could be kerned just slightly tighter >> as well. Also, I think it might be better to push the '11' to the left a >> little to add a little balance from the temple. >> > > Thanks a lot for your feedback. I've posted on the wiki the third version > for both, I think that these can be considered almost definitives: > > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/9/98/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_1c.svg > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/5/5f/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_1c.png > > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/0/03/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_2c.svg > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/d3/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_2c.png > > > >> Other than that, this is fantastic. Thank you for being so great about >> being on top of the web banners!! This is extremely good work; you've >> followed our general banner format / font / etc to a T. >> > > > Thank you for Mo your appreciations, and thanks to all in general for the > positive feedbacks. They make me very happy! :-) > > > -- > Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: M?ir?n Duffy > To: Paolo Leoni , Fedora Art List < > fedora-art-list at redhat.com>, fedora-websites-list at redhat.com > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 06:54:23 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner > > Hi Paolo! > > > Thanks a lot for your feedback. I've posted on the wiki the third version > for both, I think that these can be considered almost definitives: > > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/0/03/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_2c.svg > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/d3/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_2c.png > > This is almost perfect. There's one thing I forgot to mention, the dark > outline around the top line of text looked a little strange. I took your SVG > and added a dark sky blue blurred outline underneath the text instead to > solve the problem of allowing it to stand out from the background and > mountain. Let me know what you think: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_2d.png > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_2d.svg > > ~m > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Kevin Friedemann > To: fedora-art-list at redhat.com > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:22:04 -0700 > Subject: Re: Introduction and First Project (M?ir?n) > Cool thanks for the link. Most of the designs I do are in Illustrator so > that they are in vector format. I can convert it to (almost) any format you > need though. I have done a very small amount of print but not enough to > really work with it. Usually when I have an idea about a design in my head > i'll look up some tutorials and mix and match a little from those. I am > pretty good with icons and have some knowledge with Flash animation as well. > > > -- > -Kevin > > 2009/3/13 > >> Send Fedora-art-list mailing list submissions to >> fedora-art-list at redhat.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> fedora-art-list-request at redhat.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> fedora-art-list-owner at redhat.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Fedora-art-list digest..." >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: [echo-perspective] New computer icon set (Mark) (H) >> 2. Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner (Alexander Smirnov) >> 3. Re: Introduction and First Project (Nicu Buculei) >> 4. Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner (Nicu Buculei) >> 5. Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner (Paolo Leoni) >> 6. Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner (M?ir?n Duffy) >> 7. Re: Introduction and First Project (M?ir?n Duffy) >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: H >> To: Fedora Art List >> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:22:52 +0530 >> Subject: Re: [echo-perspective] New computer icon set (Mark) >> >> >> 2009/3/13 Kevin Friedemann >> >>> That would look really good vectorized. Samsung monitors have that nice >>> curve to them that makes it look really good. Or maybe even make a >>> combination of that Samsung you listed and thisone. The keyboard also fits very well with it. As for a mouse, maybe >>> something like this? >>> (Sorry if it's already been created, i'm new and trying to get in the flow >>> of things.) >>> >> >> the second link is not giving me permission to see. >> >> i suggest you to use plain text mail, than an HTML one. >> -- >> H >> IRC : HFactor | Phone : 09496346709 | PGP : 4634C034 | W : >> http://hiran.in >> Jay London - "I saw a stationery store move." >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Alexander Smirnov >> To: Fedora Art List >> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:17:53 +0300 >> Subject: Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner >> 2009/3/13 Paolo Leoni >> >>> Hi there, we are near to F11 Beta release, so I've two candidates for the >>> "beta release banner": >>> >>> http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_1.png >>> http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_1.svg >>> >>> http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_2.png >>> http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-beta-banner_2.svg >>> >>> The first is a non-themed version, while the second uses a part of Mo's >>> wallpaper mockup. >>> >>> -- >>> Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fedora-art-list mailing list >>> Fedora-art-list at redhat.com >>> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list >>> >>> >> The second is better. Good job. Thank you Paolo. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Nicu Buculei >> To: Fedora Art List >> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:18:02 +0200 >> Subject: Re: Introduction and First Project >> Kevin Friedemann wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >> >> Hi, >> >> My name is Kevin Friedemann. I am a young aspiring graphic designer >>> looking for experience and real life examples to work from. I use Fedora 10 >>> but prefer Photoshop over GIMP. I am looking for any open >>> >> >> We are quite proud that our graphics *for* Fedora are made *with* Fedora. >> But if you are so in love with Windows + Photoshop, we won't deny your >> choice. >> >> And even if GIMP can open .psd files, it *may* not be 100% accurate, so >> using .xcf is better for collaboration with the rest of the team. >> >> graphic requests you have available at the moment. I'm looking for >>> something easy to start off with. >>> >> >> Then have a look at this: >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService >> >> -- >> nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ >> photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ >> my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Nicu Buculei >> To: Fedora Art List >> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:23:54 +0200 >> Subject: Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner >> Klaatu wrote: >> >>> i saw the images, and i like the first. but the second was nifty too. >>> >> >> I am in the camp liking the second (themed) version best. Only that the >> bottom text row seems a bit crammed, the green arrow is small and does not >> have enough space to breath. >> >> oh and can we make sure that the rounded corners are really >>> transparent? the last banner had little white spots on the rounded >>> edges rather than being transparent so it was truly rounded, if i >>> recall correctly. It looked fine against a white background but >>> obvsiouly against anything else it looked odd. >>> >> >> I tried it agains a black background and it seems OK to me. >> >> -- >> nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ >> photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ >> my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Paolo Leoni >> To: Fedora Art List , >> fedora-websites-list at redhat.com >> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:43:07 +0100 >> Subject: Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner >> Thanks to all for the feedbacks. >> >> >> 2009/3/13 Nicu Buculei >> >> >> I am in the camp liking the second (themed) version best. Only that the >> bottom text row seems a bit crammed, the green >> >> arrow is small and does not have enough space to breath. >> I've posted on the wiki (see below for the url) two new versions of both >> files, with a little kerning of "11" number and the remotion of green arrow >> (and bigger fonts for the bottom text). >> >> >> 2009/3/13 Klaatu >> >> >> the last banner had little white spots on the rounded >> >> edges rather than being transparent so it was truly rounded, if i >> >> recall correctly. It looked fine against a white background but >> >> obvsiouly against anything else it looked odd. >> >> In these versions, rounded corners seems to be ok, if you see newly some >> defects feel free to contact me. >> >> 2009/3/13 M?ir?n Duffy >> >> Thanks for your work! There is one problem though, I can't view any of >> these files. >> >> Sorry for the inconvenience, now the files are on the wiki: >> >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/8/8b/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_1b.svg >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/5/5d/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_1b.png >> >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/dc/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_2b.svg >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/e/eb/Deepsky-fedora11-beta-banner_2b.png >> >> >> >> -- >> Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: M?ir?n Duffy >> To: Paolo Leoni , Fedora Art List < >> fedora-art-list at redhat.com>, fedora-websites-list at redhat.com >> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:51:46 -0700 (PDT) >> Subject: Re: Fedora 11 Beta release banner >> >> Hi Paolo! >> >> 2009/3/13 Nicu Buculei >> >> >> I am in the camp liking the second (themed) version best. Only that the >> bottom text row seems a bit crammed, the green >> >> arrow is small and does not have enough space to breath. >> >> Thanks for posting them to the wiki! These both look great! I definitely >> agree with everyone else though that #2 is probably the best. >> >> It still looks like your bottom row of text could be a bit tighter. The >> first 'F' and the last 'w' look like they are gasping for air from the >> corners. I think the top row of text could be kerned just slightly tighter >> as well. Also, I think it might be better to push the '11' to the left a >> little to add a little balance from the temple. >> >> Other than that, this is fantastic. Thank you for being so great about >> being on top of the web banners!! This is extremely good work; you've >> followed our general banner format / font / etc to a T. >> >> ~m >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: M?ir?n Duffy >> To: Fedora Art List >> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:56:32 -0700 (PDT) >> Subject: Re: Introduction and First Project >> >> Hi Kevin! >> ________________________________ >> >From: Kevin Friedemann >> >> >My name is Kevin Friedemann. I am a young aspiring graphic designer >> looking for experience and real life examples to work from. I use Fedora 10 >> but prefer Photoshop over >GIMP. I am looking for any open graphic requests >> you have available at the moment. I'm looking for something easy to start >> off with. >> >> Welcome to our team! Glad to hear you are a GIMP fan as well. :) >> >> We've got a lot of small projects for the taking at >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService - feel free to claim >> any of these tasks that interest you to work on! If you can tell us a little >> bit more about your design interests (do you enjoy doing print design? do >> you like making icons? animations? etc.) then we might be able to suggest >> something for you as well. >> >> ~m >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-art-list mailing list >> Fedora-art-list at redhat.com >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list >> >> > > > -- > -Kevin > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- -Kevin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Frields) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:50:29 -0400 Subject: Banners and splashes In-Reply-To: <49BA70CF.3020907@nicubunu.ro> References: <20090313001203.GE333@localhost.localdomain> <49BA70CF.3020907@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <20090313165029.GC3579@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 04:42:23PM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Paul W. Frields wrote: >> I've tried it here on my F10 box and the package works perfectly. >> (And frankly, I think it's quite lovely, although I have a bit of a >> problem making out my blue-themed folder icons against the color of >> the sky sometimes.) Has anyone had a chance to announce this to >> whatever population we want to test the backgrounds and report back? >> Do they know what kind of feedback the Artwork team is looking for? > > I definitely mentioned it on FWN and also Martin blogged (so it was > pushed to planet) Excellent! It would probably be good to also indicate what kind of feedback the Artwork team wants. Any specifics you're interested in, other than "I like it" or "I don't like it"? >> OTHER ART: >> >> According to the F11 schedule: >> http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-art-tasks >> >> ...splashes and banners are something the Artwork team creates from >> now until about March 27, two weeks or so from tomorrow. Then they're >> packaged by March 31, so that they can be tagged and included in the >> Preview Release. >> >> The listed splashes, headers and other art scheduled for March 27 >> includes: >> >> * GNOME splash screen > > Lately we didn't bother with this as it is disabled by default, but I > believe in the end someone made an image. > >> * KDE splash screen > > For the last releases the guys from the KDE got involved with that and a > splash was produced. > >> * GNOME screensaver lock dialog > > Another one disabled by default. Even more, it is on its way to > obsolence, it will be replaced by the GDM screen (however, I can't say > when, the Desktop guys are not very talkative about that). Right, this can probably be discontinued when that happens. I think there's a few Desktop guys lurking here, maybe they can let us know their plans.... >> * Fullscreen splash for syslinux >> * Square splash for anaconda and firstboot >> * Anaconda horizontal header >> * Firstboot vertical header >> * Fullscreen grub splash > > Usually those are derived from the wallpaper, so we will probably > address them after the wallpaper is in a final state. Does this mean the dates, as they stand, should be changed to a later target? There's no reason for anyone like me to bother the team if you guys really don't want to deal with these pieces until later in the process. If that's the case, setting a date would be a big help. Do you guys want to have these completed for absolute code freeze, for the Preview Release? > Since we are still stuck with GRUB 1.x. the GRUB splash will be probably > the hardest, needing an original (symplified) graphic. I'm betting the cloudy sky (with or without birds, depending on the number of color gradients needed) would work OK... >> * Plymouth bootup/loading graphics > > This area is poorly documented (is very new) but we have an "expert" in > Charlie Brej. My personal option would be to use the default background > (the temple landscape picture) and a progress bar. Charlie, maybe you could drop some wisdom here and/or on the wiki. That would give more people a chance to learn how the stunning Solar theme was produced for Plymouth. Never fails to get a whistle or a "cool!" out of someone who's seen it... /me envisions birds flying, or clouds drifting over landscape... >> * kdm login screen theme > > Agian, the KDE guys will most likely take the initiative here. Do we need anyone to notify them? John and I can help, if so. >> Is the listed date of March 27 enough time to produce these various >> derivations? > > Is doable but we should not let it for the last few days. Sure. Head starts are good, which is why I wanted to bring it up, so as not to surprise anyone late in the process! :-) -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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M?ir?n, can you post the link here? > > * Plymouth bootup/loading graphics > > This area is poorly documented (is very new) but we have an "expert" in > Charlie Brej. My personal option would be to use the default background > (the temple landscape picture) and a progress bar. > Mo thinks that something simpler would be better and I agree with her on this one. The F10 Plymouth is over too flashy. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mo produced some sample graphics, I > don't remember the address though (I could find it in Rawhide, but I'm > currently in F10). M?ir?n, can you post the link here? Sure thing. These are very rough, we want the bars to be a lot closer to the bottom of the screen. Hopefully I'll have time to poke at these this weekend but if anyone else has some time please feel free: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/ (sorry I didn't get a chance to upload them to the wiki, we were having a discussion and it was quicker for me to post them to fedorapeople.org at the time) ~m From jspaleta at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 18:55:51 2009 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:55:51 -0800 Subject: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork Message-ID: <604aa7910903141155j392f4afcm8396c1697554f542@mail.gmail.com> I hadn't seen anyone else bring this perspective up concerning the wallpaper in the beta and I thought it deserved attention for your consideration as a group. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-olpc-list/2009-March/msg00147.html "Seems to me whoever chose the background that was introduced last week did not consider that items with overtones of dissentious subjects such as politics or religion might elicit emotional reactions. I'm concerned that when my system prominently shows a picture with a temple, that might be interpreted as "Mikus worships paganism" To my reckoning this is the first Fedora artwork that has had culture specific elements in it, so this sort of issue might never have been raised in prior discussions. I don't know, I mostly lurk. But I'm bringing it to your attention to make sure you see that reaction. -jef From martin.sourada at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 20:33:12 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:33:12 +0100 Subject: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork In-Reply-To: <604aa7910903141155j392f4afcm8396c1697554f542@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa7910903141155j392f4afcm8396c1697554f542@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1237062792.11267.23.camel@pc-notebook> On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 10:55 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > I hadn't seen anyone else bring this perspective up concerning the > wallpaper in the beta and I thought it deserved attention for your > consideration as a group. > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-olpc-list/2009-March/msg00147.html > > "Seems to me whoever chose the background that was introduced last > week did not consider that items with overtones of dissentious > subjects such as politics or religion might elicit emotional > reactions. I'm concerned that when my system prominently shows a > picture with a temple, that might be interpreted as "Mikus worships > paganism" > > > To my reckoning this is the first Fedora artwork that has had culture > specific elements in it, so this sort of issue might never have been > raised in prior discussions. I don't know, I mostly lurk. But I'm > bringing it to your attention to make sure you see that reaction. > > -jef Hm... I don't see a valid reasoning there. There is vast difference between you worshiping ancient Greece gods (not that it would be something bad if you actually do) and having a huge Zeus' temple wallpaper hanging on your wall, let alone the wallpaper in your PC (which you can promptly change if you disagree with the content)... Come on, we have names of months named after ancient Rome gods (and important people) and it still does not say anything about our beliefs. While I agree we should stay away from political references, subtle cultural references are IMHO good and bring Fedora to "next level" in this aspect. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jspaleta at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 21:13:43 2009 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:13:43 -0800 Subject: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork In-Reply-To: <1237062792.11267.23.camel@pc-notebook> References: <604aa7910903141155j392f4afcm8396c1697554f542@mail.gmail.com> <1237062792.11267.23.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <604aa7910903141413k7022168eqce852ca173dd7d40@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/14 Martin Sourada : > Hm... I don't see a valid reasoning there. I'm delibrately not trying to make a statement as to validity of the reasoning about the objection. In fact, I might even question the idea that "reasoning" is ever a part of an "emotional" response. I'm pointing this out only because this is the first instance that I know of where this sort of emotional response on the grounds of cultural sensitivity has arisen in the work your group is doing. I certainly don't have the same emotional response. My emotion response is more of fear of the ominous,wheeling, flock of birds in the image. I haven't brought it up as a point of contention because I'm fully self-aware that most people don't perceive birds as the danger to humanity that they really are....yet. Such pastoral views of flocking birds in the sky only serves to lessen our natural fear of these foul, foul descendent of the dinosaurs...disarming us of our ability to react when they final swoop down en masse to get us. But I digress... We can't necessarily reason with irrational emotional responses. You might have to talk more about what that structure is meant to convey emotionally...if its worth talking about at all. -jef From stickster at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 22:29:32 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:29:32 -0400 Subject: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork In-Reply-To: <604aa7910903141413k7022168eqce852ca173dd7d40@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa7910903141155j392f4afcm8396c1697554f542@mail.gmail.com> <1237062792.11267.23.camel@pc-notebook> <604aa7910903141413k7022168eqce852ca173dd7d40@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090314222932.GG19452@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 01:13:43PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > 2009/3/14 Martin Sourada : > > Hm... I don't see a valid reasoning there. > > I'm delibrately not trying to make a statement as to validity of the > reasoning about the objection. In fact, I might even question the idea > that "reasoning" is ever a part of an "emotional" response. I'm > pointing this out only because this is the first instance that I know > of where this sort of emotional response on the grounds of cultural > sensitivity has arisen in the work your group is doing. > > I certainly don't have the same emotional response. My emotion > response is more of fear of the ominous,wheeling, flock of birds in > the image. I haven't brought it up as a point of contention because > I'm fully self-aware that most people don't perceive birds as the > danger to humanity that they really are....yet. Such pastoral views > of flocking birds in the sky only serves to lessen our natural fear of > these foul, foul descendent of the dinosaurs...disarming us of our > ability to react when they final swoop down en masse to get us. But I > digress... OK, thanks for that digression, Tippi. ;-) > We can't necessarily reason with irrational emotional responses. You > might have to talk more about what that structure is meant to convey > emotionally...if its worth talking about at all. I'm not sure it is -- but the conveyance as far as I know is simply to acknowledge the heritage of the "Leonidas" name. Any other inference is probably a stretch. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Sun Mar 15 00:52:58 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork In-Reply-To: <604aa7910903141155j392f4afcm8396c1697554f542@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa7910903141155j392f4afcm8396c1697554f542@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <518191.96829.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello Jeff, Thank you for bringing this serious matter to our attention - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jeff Spaleta > To: Fedora Art List > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:55:51 PM > Subject: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork > > I hadn't seen anyone else bring this perspective up concerning the > wallpaper in the beta and I thought it deserved attention for your > consideration as a group. > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-olpc-list/2009-March/msg00147.html > > "Seems to me whoever chose the background that was introduced last > week did not consider that items with overtones of dissentious > subjects such as politics or religion might elicit emotional > reactions. I'm concerned that when my system prominently shows a > picture with a temple, that might be interpreted as "Mikus worships > paganism" > > > To my reckoning this is the first Fedora artwork that has had culture > specific elements in it, so this sort of issue might never have been > raised in prior discussions. I don't know, I mostly lurk. But I'm > bringing it to your attention to make sure you see that reaction. I totally agree. I can't believe I didn't even think about this. We need to stop the presses, immediately. Shut down all Fedora yum repo mirrors, we must stop distributing this artwork immediately. I cannot believe we let something like this out, something so divisive and controversial. I assure you it won't happen again. You see, Fedora really has a big problem on its hands here, and I will personally make it my responsibility to rectify the situation: First up - this Paul Frields guy - who puts a guy named "Paul" in charge of something? "Paul" is one of the apostles of that Jesus guy, right? A saint at least. We can't have that. No siree. We cannot have any possible reference to any organized religion in our utopian operating system's leadership. We need someone like me in charge of Fedora. M?ir?n - sure it's the Gaelic diminutive of Mary, who was the mother of Jesus, but it's got ACCENT MARKS. That totally makes it okay. Effective immediately, we have to revoke Fedora version control access to anyone with a name that has religious roots. We've got to nip this in the bud. Then, we've got this other problem. See, we have this color "blue" that symbolizes Fedora. This is a MAJOR problem, check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue#Religion - Not only is blue an important, symbolic color in the Hindu religion, but it's also an important color in Judaism! We've got a major, major problem here. As soon as I'm stated as the new Fedora project leader, I will change the official Fedora color to blah grey, because that can't possibly symbolize ANYTHING. In fact, I think we need to cancel the Fedora art team. From now on, all of our artwork will just be blah grey-colored squares. We just can't risk offending anyone. Done and done! Ahhhh! Oh, my go... er, erm whoah whoah Nelly there! I *really* mean, oh my "gads"! I just realized, this is way bigger a problem than we originally thought. This goes way beyond Fedora. Check this out: - The New York Public Library: http://www.flickr.com/photos/72131699 at N00/238786611/ (They featured this building in Spiderman! The insensitive, incendiary clods! This is supposed to be a library! A place of higher learning! Above religion! It's indelibly marked with religious conflict all over it! It looks JUST LIKE A TEMPLE. How could I not have seen this before????) - The White House: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kathleen-andersen/237167863/ (There go those Americans again, stirring up deeply-rooted religious strife by making their president's accomodations resemble a Greek temple! So much for the separation of church and state!) - apple.com - these computers are swiftly gaining popularity. We have to stop this scourge. I mean, clearly "Apple" is a reference to a Biblical passage involving a garden and snakes and naked people and that sort of thing. How offensive! - Battlestar Galactica - they've got this kind of chorus-y hymn-sounding chanting for a theme song. Kind of like religious chanting! They are obviously broadcasting subliminal religious messages. Good thing you brought this conspiracy up. Now we can warn the good people of the world! I'm just too distraught to carry on. I feel like my entire world is full of these things symbolizing other things, and I'm finding myself strangely offended by everything. Like the crown molding along the ceiling of my apartment, which now looks like the columns of a temple. Or the weave pattern in the rug beneath my feet, which seems to contain some hidden heathen message. Crap. I'm typing this all on a computer with FEDORA on it, with a blue Fedora logo in the upper left corner and that horrible, awful religious wallpaper. My palms are tingling. I'm going to go run to the kitchen and scrub them with a Brillo pad... oh crap, those are blue aren't they. Bleach! I'll scrub them with bleach. Wait isn't the color white symbolic of the afterlife? Well... I'm just going to drop the laptop now and run as far away as I can. Stay safe! ~m From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Sun Mar 15 00:58:39 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork In-Reply-To: <518191.96829.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <604aa7910903141155j392f4afcm8396c1697554f542@mail.gmail.com> <518191.96829.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <986551.97271.qm@web50910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: M?ir?n Duffy > To: Fedora Art List > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:52:58 PM > Subject: Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork > > > Hello Jeff, > > Thank you for bringing this serious matter to our attention - Oh crap, I just realized my reply might be OFFENSIVE. Crap. No humor or satire allowed in Fedora either! ~m From ianweller at gmail.com Sun Mar 15 00:59:54 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:59:54 -0500 Subject: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork In-Reply-To: <518191.96829.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <604aa7910903141155j392f4afcm8396c1697554f542@mail.gmail.com> <518191.96829.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090315005954.GO24283@gmail.com> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 05:52:58PM -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Jeff Spaleta > > > > I hadn't seen anyone else bring this perspective up concerning the > > wallpaper in the beta and I thought it deserved attention for your > > consideration as a group. > > > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-olpc-list/2009-March/msg00147.html > > > > "Seems to me whoever chose the background that was introduced last > > week did not consider that items with overtones of dissentious > > subjects such as politics or religion might elicit emotional > > reactions. I'm concerned that when my system prominently shows a > > picture with a temple, that might be interpreted as "Mikus worships > > paganism" > > > > > > To my reckoning this is the first Fedora artwork that has had culture > > specific elements in it, so this sort of issue might never have been > > raised in prior discussions. I don't know, I mostly lurk. But I'm > > bringing it to your attention to make sure you see that reaction. > > I totally agree. I can't believe I didn't even think about this. We need to stop the presses, immediately. Shut down all Fedora yum repo mirrors, we must stop distributing this artwork immediately. I cannot believe we let something like this out, something so divisive and controversial. I assure you it won't happen again. You see, Fedora really has a big problem on its hands here, and I will personally make it my responsibility to rectify the situation: > > First up - this Paul Frields guy - who puts a guy named "Paul" in charge of something? "Paul" is one of the apostles of that Jesus guy, right? A saint at least. We can't have that. No siree. We cannot have any possible reference to any organized religion in our utopian operating system's leadership. We need someone like me in charge of Fedora. M?ir?n - sure it's the Gaelic diminutive of Mary, who was the mother of Jesus, but it's got ACCENT MARKS. That totally makes it okay. Effective immediately, we have to revoke Fedora version control access to anyone with a name that has religious roots. We've got to nip this in the bud. [snip] > > Stay safe! > I would like to take this moment to ask everyone to stop this thread right here before it goes any more crazy/sarcastic/ballistic. Thanks! -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Kind of like an old abbey in England would have a different meaning now. p.s if you worship ancient gods, well good on ya mate. ? --- On Sun, 15/3/09, fedora-art-list-request at redhat.com wrote: From: fedora-art-list-request at redhat.com Subject: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 36, Issue 26 To: fedora-art-list at redhat.com Received: Sunday, 15 March, 2009, 2:00 PM Send Fedora-art-list mailing list submissions to fedora-art-list at redhat.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fedora-art-list-request at redhat.com You can reach the person managing the list at fedora-art-list-owner at redhat.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Fedora-art-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork (Jeff Spaleta) 2. Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork (Martin Sourada) 3. Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork (Jeff Spaleta) 4. Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork (Paul W. Frields) 5. Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork (M?ir?n Duffy) 6. Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork (M?ir?n Duffy) 7. Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork (Ian Weller) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:55:51 -0800 From: Jeff Spaleta Subject: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork To: Fedora Art List Message-ID: <604aa7910903141155j392f4afcm8396c1697554f542 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I hadn't seen anyone else bring this perspective up concerning the wallpaper in the beta and I thought it deserved attention for your consideration as a group. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-olpc-list/2009-March/msg00147.html "Seems to me whoever chose the background that was introduced last week did not consider that items with overtones of dissentious subjects such as politics or religion might elicit emotional reactions. I'm concerned that when my system prominently shows a picture with a temple, that might be interpreted as "Mikus worships paganism" To my reckoning this is the first Fedora artwork that has had culture specific elements in it, so this sort of issue might never have been raised in prior discussions. I don't know, I mostly lurk. But I'm bringing it to your attention to make sure you see that reaction. -jef ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:33:12 +0100 From: Martin Sourada Subject: Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork To: Fedora Art List Message-ID: <1237062792.11267.23.camel at pc-notebook> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 10:55 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > I hadn't seen anyone else bring this perspective up concerning the > wallpaper in the beta and I thought it deserved attention for your > consideration as a group. > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-olpc-list/2009-March/msg00147.html > > "Seems to me whoever chose the background that was introduced last > week did not consider that items with overtones of dissentious > subjects such as politics or religion might elicit emotional > reactions. I'm concerned that when my system prominently shows a > picture with a temple, that might be interpreted as "Mikus worships > paganism" > > > To my reckoning this is the first Fedora artwork that has had culture > specific elements in it, so this sort of issue might never have been > raised in prior discussions. I don't know, I mostly lurk. But I'm > bringing it to your attention to make sure you see that reaction. > > -jef Hm... I don't see a valid reasoning there. There is vast difference between you worshiping ancient Greece gods (not that it would be something bad if you actually do) and having a huge Zeus' temple wallpaper hanging on your wall, let alone the wallpaper in your PC (which you can promptly change if you disagree with the content)... Come on, we have names of months named after ancient Rome gods (and important people) and it still does not say anything about our beliefs. While I agree we should stay away from political references, subtle cultural references are IMHO good and bring Fedora to "next level" in this aspect. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/attachments/20090314/9420e97f/attachment.bin ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:13:43 -0800 From: Jeff Spaleta Subject: Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork To: Fedora Art List Message-ID: <604aa7910903141413k7022168eqce852ca173dd7d40 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2009/3/14 Martin Sourada : > Hm... I don't see a valid reasoning there. I'm delibrately not trying to make a statement as to validity of the reasoning about the objection. In fact, I might even question the idea that "reasoning" is ever a part of an "emotional" response. I'm pointing this out only because this is the first instance that I know of where this sort of emotional response on the grounds of cultural sensitivity has arisen in the work your group is doing. I certainly don't have the same emotional response. My emotion response is more of fear of the ominous,wheeling, flock of birds in the image. I haven't brought it up as a point of contention because I'm fully self-aware that most people don't perceive birds as the danger to humanity that they really are....yet. Such pastoral views of flocking birds in the sky only serves to lessen our natural fear of these foul, foul descendent of the dinosaurs...disarming us of our ability to react when they final swoop down en masse to get us. But I digress... We can't necessarily reason with irrational emotional responses. You might have to talk more about what that structure is meant to convey emotionally...if its worth talking about at all. -jef ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:29:32 -0400 From: "Paul W. Frields" Subject: Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork To: fedora-art-list at redhat.com Message-ID: <20090314222932.GG19452 at localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 01:13:43PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > 2009/3/14 Martin Sourada : > > Hm... I don't see a valid reasoning there. > > I'm delibrately not trying to make a statement as to validity of the > reasoning about the objection. In fact, I might even question the idea > that "reasoning" is ever a part of an "emotional" response. I'm > pointing this out only because this is the first instance that I know > of where this sort of emotional response on the grounds of cultural > sensitivity has arisen in the work your group is doing. > > I certainly don't have the same emotional response. My emotion > response is more of fear of the ominous,wheeling, flock of birds in > the image. I haven't brought it up as a point of contention because > I'm fully self-aware that most people don't perceive birds as the > danger to humanity that they really are....yet. Such pastoral views > of flocking birds in the sky only serves to lessen our natural fear of > these foul, foul descendent of the dinosaurs...disarming us of our > ability to react when they final swoop down en masse to get us. But I > digress... OK, thanks for that digression, Tippi. ;-) > We can't necessarily reason with irrational emotional responses. You > might have to talk more about what that structure is meant to convey > emotionally...if its worth talking about at all. I'm not sure it is -- but the conveyance as far as I know is simply to acknowledge the heritage of the "Leonidas" name. Any other inference is probably a stretch. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/attachments/20090314/1aa6ee65/attachment.bin ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:52:58 -0700 (PDT) From: M?ir?n Duffy Subject: Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork To: Fedora Art List Message-ID: <518191.96829.qm at web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello Jeff, Thank you for bringing this serious matter to our attention - ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jeff Spaleta > To: Fedora Art List > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:55:51 PM > Subject: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork > > I hadn't seen anyone else bring this perspective up concerning the > wallpaper in the beta and I thought it deserved attention for your > consideration as a group. > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-olpc-list/2009-March/msg00147.html > > "Seems to me whoever chose the background that was introduced last > week did not consider that items with overtones of dissentious > subjects such as politics or religion might elicit emotional > reactions. I'm concerned that when my system prominently shows a > picture with a temple, that might be interpreted as "Mikus worships > paganism" > > > To my reckoning this is the first Fedora artwork that has had culture > specific elements in it, so this sort of issue might never have been > raised in prior discussions. I don't know, I mostly lurk. But I'm > bringing it to your attention to make sure you see that reaction. I totally agree. I can't believe I didn't even think about this. We need to stop the presses, immediately. Shut down all Fedora yum repo mirrors, we must stop distributing this artwork immediately. I cannot believe we let something like this out, something so divisive and controversial. I assure you it won't happen again. You see, Fedora really has a big problem on its hands here, and I will personally make it my responsibility to rectify the situation: First up - this Paul Frields guy - who puts a guy named "Paul" in charge of something? "Paul" is one of the apostles of that Jesus guy, right? A saint at least. We can't have that. No siree. We cannot have any possible reference to any organized religion in our utopian operating system's leadership. We need someone like me in charge of Fedora. M?ir?n - sure it's the Gaelic diminutive of Mary, who was the mother of Jesus, but it's got ACCENT MARKS. That totally makes it okay. Effective immediately, we have to revoke Fedora version control access to anyone with a name that has religious roots. We've got to nip this in the bud. Then, we've got this other problem. See, we have this color "blue" that symbolizes Fedora. This is a MAJOR problem, check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue#Religion - Not only is blue an important, symbolic color in the Hindu religion, but it's also an important color in Judaism! We've got a major, major problem here. As soon as I'm stated as the new Fedora project leader, I will change the official Fedora color to blah grey, because that can't possibly symbolize ANYTHING. In fact, I think we need to cancel the Fedora art team. From now on, all of our artwork will just be blah grey-colored squares. We just can't risk offending anyone. Done and done! Ahhhh! Oh, my go... er, erm whoah whoah Nelly there! I *really* mean, oh my "gads"! I just realized, this is way bigger a problem than we originally thought. This goes way beyond Fedora. Check this out: - The New York Public Library: http://www.flickr.com/photos/72131699 at N00/238786611/ (They featured this building in Spiderman! The insensitive, incendiary clods! This is supposed to be a library! A place of higher learning! Above religion! It's indelibly marked with religious conflict all over it! It looks JUST LIKE A TEMPLE. How could I not have seen this before????) - The White House: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kathleen-andersen/237167863/ (There go those Americans again, stirring up deeply-rooted religious strife by making their president's accomodations resemble a Greek temple! So much for the separation of church and state!) - apple.com - these computers are swiftly gaining popularity. We have to stop this scourge. I mean, clearly "Apple" is a reference to a Biblical passage involving a garden and snakes and naked people and that sort of thing. How offensive! - Battlestar Galactica - they've got this kind of chorus-y hymn-sounding chanting for a theme song. Kind of like religious chanting! They are obviously broadcasting subliminal religious messages. Good thing you brought this conspiracy up. Now we can warn the good people of the world! I'm just too distraught to carry on. I feel like my entire world is full of these things symbolizing other things, and I'm finding myself strangely offended by everything. Like the crown molding along the ceiling of my apartment, which now looks like the columns of a temple. Or the weave pattern in the rug beneath my feet, which seems to contain some hidden heathen message. Crap. I'm typing this all on a computer with FEDORA on it, with a blue Fedora logo in the upper left corner and that horrible, awful religious wallpaper. My palms are tingling. I'm going to go run to the kitchen and scrub them with a Brillo pad... oh crap, those are blue aren't they. Bleach! I'll scrub them with bleach. Wait isn't the color white symbolic of the afterlife? Well... I'm just going to drop the laptop now and run as far away as I can. Stay safe! ~m ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:58:39 -0700 (PDT) From: M?ir?n Duffy Subject: Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork To: Fedora Art List Message-ID: <986551.97271.qm at web50910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 ----- Original Message ---- > From: M?ir?n Duffy > To: Fedora Art List > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:52:58 PM > Subject: Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork > > > Hello Jeff, > > Thank you for bringing this serious matter to our attention - Oh crap, I just realized my reply might be OFFENSIVE. Crap. No humor or satire allowed in Fedora either! ~m ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:59:54 -0500 From: Ian Weller Subject: Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork To: Fedora Art List Message-ID: <20090315005954.GO24283 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 05:52:58PM -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Jeff Spaleta > > > > I hadn't seen anyone else bring this perspective up concerning the > > wallpaper in the beta and I thought it deserved attention for your > > consideration as a group. > > > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-olpc-list/2009-March/msg00147.html > > > > "Seems to me whoever chose the background that was introduced last > > week did not consider that items with overtones of dissentious > > subjects such as politics or religion might elicit emotional > > reactions. I'm concerned that when my system prominently shows a > > picture with a temple, that might be interpreted as "Mikus worships > > paganism" > > > > > > To my reckoning this is the first Fedora artwork that has had culture > > specific elements in it, so this sort of issue might never have been > > raised in prior discussions. I don't know, I mostly lurk. But I'm > > bringing it to your attention to make sure you see that reaction. > > I totally agree. I can't believe I didn't even think about this. We need to stop the presses, immediately. Shut down all Fedora yum repo mirrors, we must stop distributing this artwork immediately. I cannot believe we let something like this out, something so divisive and controversial. I assure you it won't happen again. You see, Fedora really has a big problem on its hands here, and I will personally make it my responsibility to rectify the situation: > > First up - this Paul Frields guy - who puts a guy named "Paul" in charge of something? "Paul" is one of the apostles of that Jesus guy, right? A saint at least. We can't have that. No siree. We cannot have any possible reference to any organized religion in our utopian operating system's leadership. We need someone like me in charge of Fedora. M?ir?n - sure it's the Gaelic diminutive of Mary, who was the mother of Jesus, but it's got ACCENT MARKS. That totally makes it okay. Effective immediately, we have to revoke Fedora version control access to anyone with a name that has religious roots. We've got to nip this in the bud. [snip] > > Stay safe! > I would like to take this moment to ask everyone to stop this thread right here before it goes any more crazy/sarcastic/ballistic. Thanks! -- Ian Weller http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 "Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet." ~ Douglas Adams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From krzzzt at web.de Sun Mar 15 10:40:02 2009 From: krzzzt at web.de (Justus) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 11:40:02 +0100 Subject: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork In-Reply-To: <20090315005954.GO24283@gmail.com> References: <604aa7910903141155j392f4afcm8396c1697554f542@mail.gmail.com> <518191.96829.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090315005954.GO24283@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090315114002.72ee3e04@web.de> > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 05:52:58PM -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: Jeff Spaleta > > > > > > I hadn't seen anyone else bring this perspective up concerning the > > > wallpaper in the beta and I thought it deserved attention for your > > > consideration as a group. > > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-olpc-list/2009-March/msg00147.html > > > > > > "Seems to me whoever chose the background that was introduced last > > > week did not consider that items with overtones of dissentious > > > subjects such as politics or religion might elicit emotional > > > reactions. I'm concerned that when my system prominently shows a > > > picture with a temple, that might be interpreted as "Mikus > > > worships paganism" > > > > > > > > > To my reckoning this is the first Fedora artwork that has had > > > culture specific elements in it, so this sort of issue might > > > never have been raised in prior discussions. I don't know, I > > > mostly lurk. But I'm bringing it to your attention to make sure > > > you see that reaction. > > > > I totally agree. I can't believe I didn't even think about this. We > > need to stop the presses, immediately. Shut down all Fedora yum > > repo mirrors, we must stop distributing this artwork immediately. I > > cannot believe we let something like this out, something so > > divisive and controversial. I assure you it won't happen again. You > > see, Fedora really has a big problem on its hands here, and I will > > personally make it my responsibility to rectify the situation: > > > > First up - this Paul Frields guy - who puts a guy named "Paul" in > > charge of something? "Paul" is one of the apostles of that Jesus > > guy, right? A saint at least. We can't have that. No siree. We > > cannot have any possible reference to any organized religion in our > > utopian operating system's leadership. We need someone like me in > > charge of Fedora. M?ir?n - sure it's the Gaelic diminutive of Mary, > > who was the mother of Jesus, but it's got ACCENT MARKS. That > > totally makes it okay. Effective immediately, we have to revoke > > Fedora version control access to anyone with a name that has > > religious roots. We've got to nip this in the bud. > [snip] > > > > Stay safe! > > > I would like to take this moment to ask everyone to stop this thread > right here before it goes any more crazy/sarcastic/ballistic. Thanks! > I Agree! Seems to be a bit too exaggerated... From mclasen at redhat.com Sun Mar 15 22:15:28 2009 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:15:28 -0400 Subject: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork In-Reply-To: <518191.96829.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <604aa7910903141155j392f4afcm8396c1697554f542@mail.gmail.com> <518191.96829.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1237155328.3290.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 17:52 -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hello Jeff, > > Thank you for bringing this serious matter to our attention - Wow, way to deal with critics ! I'm impressed by your command of ridicule. I'm much less impressed with the beta background though. IMO it is really overloaded with all too well-known motifs, to the extent that it appears almost like a satire of a constructed background image. I mean, it has clouds and mountains and doves and a black forest and a green lawn _and_ a greek temple. Any 2 out of these 6 might combine to a nice background, but all six are just too much for my taste. Matthias From stickster at gmail.com Sun Mar 15 23:01:51 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul Frields) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:01:51 -0400 Subject: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork In-Reply-To: <1237155328.3290.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <604aa7910903141155j392f4afcm8396c1697554f542@mail.gmail.com> <518191.96829.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1237155328.3290.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > I'm much less impressed with the beta background though. IMO it is > really overloaded with all too well-known motifs, to the extent that it > appears almost like a satire of a constructed background image. I mean, > it has clouds and mountains and doves and a black forest and a green > lawn _and_ a greek temple. Any 2 out of these 6 might combine to a nice > background, but all six are just too much for my taste. The aim this type, AIUI, was to have a background more like a natural picture. It would have been great to have a photo of a real landscape from Greece, perhaps, but in the absence people worked on a photomanip using free sources. I think this background is not too dissimilar from the Fedora 7 background of clouds, sunset, mist, and a set of balloons. I liked the previous releases' concentration on a motif as opposed to a more realistic scene, but I also like the idea of having new directions now and then. Paul From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Mon Mar 16 01:27:41 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork In-Reply-To: <1237155328.3290.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <604aa7910903141155j392f4afcm8396c1697554f542@mail.gmail.com> <518191.96829.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1237155328.3290.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <333059.37617.qm@web50907.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Matthias Clasen > I'm much less impressed with the beta background though. IMO it is > really overloaded with all too well-known motifs, to the extent that it > appears almost like a satire of a constructed background image. I mean, > it has clouds and mountains and doves and a black forest and a green > lawn _and_ a greek temple. Any 2 out of these 6 might combine to a nice > background, but all six are just too much for my taste. Thank you for the feedback. Receiving this kind of feedback is exactly why we aimed to get a wallpaper into the beta. ~m From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Mon Mar 16 02:21:19 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: new direction for the wallpaper Message-ID: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Based on some feedback we've gotten about the beta wallpaper, I have a couple of approaches to suggest for moving forward, let me know which you think is the better approach: 1) Islands - I saw the movie Mama Mia this weekend for the first time, and it's a movie based on a pretty Greek island. We did a survey a while back that indicated most people would prefer a landscape-based wallpaper, but maybe instead of going with mountains+temple wallpaper we could try a landscape based on the islands of Greece, e.g. maybe somewhat like this (higher res, and a bit cleaned up, no boat in the water and the land area here is a bit too busy, maybe replace it or clean it up): http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnkarakatsanis/3334225599/sizes/l/ (Santorini Island Greece, by John.Karakatsanis CC-BY-SA) 2) Mount Olympus - or instead we could take the temple out of the current wallpaper and focus a bit more wholly on the mountains as the symbol of Greece rather than the temple. We might need to swap Bob's photo out for an actual photo of Mount Olympus in this case though. Let me know if you have any thoughts, or even better mockups / adequately-licensed reference or source photos . 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Probably a blue background and a drawing of some birds or clouds. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 16 08:12:34 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:12:34 +0200 Subject: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork In-Reply-To: <604aa7910903141155j392f4afcm8396c1697554f542@mail.gmail.com> References: <604aa7910903141155j392f4afcm8396c1697554f542@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49BE09F2.5030100@nicubunu.ro> Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > To my reckoning this is the first Fedora artwork that has had culture > specific elements in it, so this sort of issue might never have been > raised in prior discussions. I don't know, I mostly lurk. But I'm > bringing it to your attention to make sure you see that reaction. We played a bit with "Cambridge" cultural elements but it didn't get further than some preliminary concepts (and of course someone complained about a visible church). I think cultural references are good and personally consider pushing myself "chocolate" as a cultural reference for F12. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 16 08:29:16 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:29:16 +0200 Subject: new direction for the wallpaper In-Reply-To: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49BE0DDC.40300@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Based on some feedback we've gotten about the beta wallpaper, I have a couple of approaches to suggest for moving forward, let me know which you think is the better approach: > > 1) Islands - I saw the movie Mama Mia this weekend for the first time, and it's a movie based on a pretty Greek island. We did a survey a while back that indicated most people would prefer a landscape-based wallpaper, but maybe instead of going with mountains+temple wallpaper we could try a landscape based on the islands of Greece, e.g. maybe somewhat like this (higher res, and a bit cleaned up, no boat in the water and the land area here is a bit too busy, maybe replace it or clean it up): I don't like this particular photo: - from a compositional point of view, it is "correct", with the land at 1/3 of the screen, but id does not tell me anything; - the colors are dull, the land is brown (tan?), not green to show life and the water is too gray. - the resolution of 1600x1200 is not enough. Too bad Smolt is not giving any statistics about display sizes, but I expect a lot of people would need to scale it up. And even viewed at 100%, the photo lack details. If we are going with this approach, I think we may need to search for a better photo. > http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnkarakatsanis/3334225599/sizes/l/ > (Santorini Island Greece, by John.Karakatsanis CC-BY-SA) > > 2) Mount Olympus - or instead we could take the temple out of the current wallpaper and focus a bit more wholly on the mountains as the symbol of Greece rather than the temple. We might need to swap Bob's photo out for an actual photo of Mount Olympus in this case though. If we take the temple out, then the result may be a bit to close to the Windows XP default wallpaper but with mountains instead of a hill. > Let me know if you have any thoughts, or even better mockups / adequately-licensed reference or source photos . Back when we started talking about landscape photography I did extensive search on Flickr and was not able to find something to like with Mount Olympus -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From martin.sourada at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 08:30:58 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:30:58 +0100 Subject: new direction for the wallpaper In-Reply-To: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1237192258.2946.4.camel@pc-notebook> On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 19:21 -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Based on some feedback we've gotten about the beta wallpaper, I have a couple of approaches to suggest for moving forward, let me know which you think is the better approach: > > 1) Islands - I saw the movie Mama Mia this weekend for the first time, and it's a movie based on a pretty Greek island. We did a survey a while back that indicated most people would prefer a landscape-based wallpaper, but maybe instead of going with mountains+temple wallpaper we could try a landscape based on the islands of Greece, e.g. maybe somewhat like this (higher res, and a bit cleaned up, no boat in the water and the land area here is a bit too busy, maybe replace it or clean it up): > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnkarakatsanis/3334225599/sizes/l/ > (Santorini Island Greece, by John.Karakatsanis CC-BY-SA) > > 2) Mount Olympus - or instead we could take the temple out of the current wallpaper and focus a bit more wholly on the mountains as the symbol of Greece rather than the temple. We might need to swap Bob's photo out for an actual photo of Mount Olympus in this case though. > > Let me know if you have any thoughts, or even better mockups / adequately-licensed reference or source photos . > > Thanks > ~m > Hm... I'd say get rid of the trees or make them just complimentary part of the wallpaper, drop the focus away from mountains and instead have it on the temple. As it is now, it's cool and I would not want much of the elements to go away, but as Matthias said, the wallpaper is focusing on too many elements at once. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From stickster at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 11:37:00 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:37:00 -0400 Subject: new direction for the wallpaper In-Reply-To: <1237192258.2946.4.camel@pc-notebook> References: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1237192258.2946.4.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <20090316113700.GC4115@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 09:30:58AM +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 19:21 -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Based on some feedback we've gotten about the beta wallpaper, I have a couple of approaches to suggest for moving forward, let me know which you think is the better approach: > > > > 1) Islands - I saw the movie Mama Mia this weekend for the first time, and it's a movie based on a pretty Greek island. We did a survey a while back that indicated most people would prefer a landscape-based wallpaper, but maybe instead of going with mountains+temple wallpaper we could try a landscape based on the islands of Greece, e.g. maybe somewhat like this (higher res, and a bit cleaned up, no boat in the water and the land area here is a bit too busy, maybe replace it or clean it up): > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnkarakatsanis/3334225599/sizes/l/ > > (Santorini Island Greece, by John.Karakatsanis CC-BY-SA) > > > > 2) Mount Olympus - or instead we could take the temple out of the current wallpaper and focus a bit more wholly on the mountains as the symbol of Greece rather than the temple. We might need to swap Bob's photo out for an actual photo of Mount Olympus in this case though. > > > > Let me know if you have any thoughts, or even better mockups / adequately-licensed reference or source photos . > > > > Thanks > > ~m > > > Hm... I'd say get rid of the trees or make them just complimentary part > of the wallpaper, drop the focus away from mountains and instead have it > on the temple. As it is now, it's cool and I would not want much of the > elements to go away, but as Matthias said, the wallpaper is focusing on > too many elements at once. That's not a bad idea if the desire is to reduce the number of elements and simplify the background. Maybe losing the birds would be something to consider too. All right, I'll put in a bit of critique here, noting that overall I like the theme and the care which was put into it. I confess, I am one of those people with a "messy Desktop" in the computer sense. (OK, you caught me, I have a messy desk in the real-life sense too. Oh, the shame!) So I tend to hit problems with icons and/or their labels clashing with backgrounds easily. But I wouldn't put myself out there as an "average" user, because I suspect many people keep an emptier Desktop than I do. I found that in my use case, the following elements tend to make it more difficult to discern text labels on icons: (1) birds, (2) the particular coloration and brightness of the sky, especially around the middle third of the picture. Interestingly, toward the bottom third of the picture, even though that is where some people complain about clutter, this problem goes away completely -- probably because the picture's quite darker there, so the white text of the icon labels shows up easier. To be fair, this could also indicate that I need more or better shadowing on icon text, so that it shows up well even on a medium-bright background area. That's not the Artwork team's problem AFAICT, but I don't know an easy way of adjusting it. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Mon Mar 16 11:38:17 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 04:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: new direction for the wallpaper In-Reply-To: <1237192258.2946.4.camel@pc-notebook> References: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1237192258.2946.4.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <201295.82892.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Martin Sourada > Hm... I'd say get rid of the trees or make them just complimentary part > of the wallpaper, drop the focus away from mountains and instead have it > on the temple. As it is now, it's cool and I would not want much of the > elements to go away, but as Matthias said, the wallpaper is focusing on > too many elements at once. This feedback is really useful. I'm a little disappointed that I didn't see any feedback like this on the list when the wallpaper was first posted over a week ago. (Did I simply miss it?) I am wondering what we should be doing in order to get this feedback in a more timely manner so we have more time to take it into account. Also, I just wanted to make it really clear that if anyone has the time to step in and help out with the wallpaper it would be very deeply appreciated. ~m From himam at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 16 12:57:41 2009 From: himam at fedoraproject.org (Hisham Abdel-Magid) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:57:41 +0300 Subject: new direction for the wallpaper In-Reply-To: <201295.82892.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1237192258.2946.4.camel@pc-notebook> <201295.82892.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <59e007ed0903160557x48728b9eg2861300beccb4174@mail.gmail.com> sorry to bother ... but i'm a bit confused now ... what are the final "key" elements for the beckground now? P.S: i am willing to give a shot on helping with the design (if i have an idea about what we are aiming for). ~hish 2009/3/16 M?ir?n Duffy > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Martin Sourada > > Hm... I'd say get rid of the trees or make them just complimentary part > > of the wallpaper, drop the focus away from mountains and instead have it > > on the temple. As it is now, it's cool and I would not want much of the > > elements to go away, but as Matthias said, the wallpaper is focusing on > > too many elements at once. > > This feedback is really useful. I'm a little disappointed that I didn't see > any feedback like this on the list when the wallpaper was first posted over > a week ago. (Did I simply miss it?) I am wondering what we should be doing > in order to get this feedback in a more timely manner so we have more time > to take it into account. > > Also, I just wanted to make it really clear that if anyone has the time to > step in and help out with the wallpaper it would be very deeply appreciated. > > ~m > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It does seem we have too many, though - my suggestion would be: - field - mountains - clouds Any other elements should be removed for the next iteration, and the mountains should probably be the center of attention / main focus, the fields and clouds playing a supporting role. What do you think? ~m From himam at fedoraproject.org Mon Mar 16 13:14:39 2009 From: himam at fedoraproject.org (Hisham Abdel-Magid) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:14:39 +0300 Subject: new direction for the wallpaper In-Reply-To: <131869.77759.qm@web50912.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1237192258.2946.4.camel@pc-notebook> <201295.82892.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <59e007ed0903160557x48728b9eg2861300beccb4174@mail.gmail.com> <131869.77759.qm@web50912.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <59e007ed0903160614g763c4a8dx6e6d2ccbfea478a3@mail.gmail.com> hi mo ^_^ k .. got the idea .. will c wt i can do .. regards. ~hish 2009/3/16 M?ir?n Duffy > > Hi Hish! > > >what are the final "key" elements for the beckground now? > >P.S: i am willing to give a shot on helping with the design (if i have an > idea about what we are aiming for). > > Great to hear from you! I'm not sure what the final elements should be. It > does seem we have too many, though - my suggestion would be: > > - field > - mountains > - clouds > > Any other elements should be removed for the next iteration, and the > mountains should probably be the center of attention / main focus, the > fields and clouds playing a supporting role. What do you think? > > ~m > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eng. Hisham Isam M. 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It might be a bit cliche but distinctly recognizable as a silhouette or anything else.? you can add or remove detail from and use it on a button, letterhead ect https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Oldkeysecurity.svg? Get the world's best email - http://nz.mail.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.sourada at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 16:42:33 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:42:33 +0100 Subject: new direction for the wallpaper In-Reply-To: <201295.82892.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1237192258.2946.4.camel@pc-notebook> <201295.82892.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1237221753.2946.8.camel@pc-notebook> On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 04:38 -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > From: Martin Sourada > > Hm... I'd say get rid of the trees or make them just complimentary part > > of the wallpaper, drop the focus away from mountains and instead have it > > on the temple. As it is now, it's cool and I would not want much of the > > elements to go away, but as Matthias said, the wallpaper is focusing on > > too many elements at once. > > This feedback is really useful. I'm a little disappointed that I didn't > see any feedback like this on the list when the wallpaper was first > posted over a week ago. (Did I simply miss it?) I am wondering what we > should be doing in order to get this feedback in a more timely manner > so we have more time to take it into account. > "Blame" Matthias -- if it were not for him pointing it out, I wouldn't probably come to this conclusion all by myself. His critique made me think about it and you've read the result :-D Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It might be a bit cliche but distinctly recognizable > as a silhouette or anything else. you can add or remove detail from and > use it on a button, letterhead ect > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Oldkeysecurity.svg Ultimately the "cusotmer" (in our case the Security SIG) has the decision, but I would like the teeth (this is correct in English?) to be larger, even if oversized, to make it clear this is a key. And for "fedora" you will use the wordmark and for "security" the MgOpen-Modata font, right? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From fedora-art at brej.org Mon Mar 16 16:46:47 2009 From: fedora-art at brej.org (Charlie Brej) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:46:47 +0000 Subject: Banners and splashes In-Reply-To: <20090313165029.GC3579@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090313001203.GE333@localhost.localdomain> <49BA70CF.3020907@nicubunu.ro> <20090313165029.GC3579@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49BE8277.8040704@brej.org> Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 04:42:23PM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> Paul W. Frields wrote: >>> * Plymouth bootup/loading graphics >> This area is poorly documented (is very new) but we have an "expert" in >> Charlie Brej. My personal option would be to use the default background >> (the temple landscape picture) and a progress bar. > > Charlie, maybe you could drop some wisdom here and/or on the wiki. > That would give more people a chance to learn how the stunning Solar > theme was produced for Plymouth. Never fails to get a whistle or a > "cool!" out of someone who's seen it... > > /me envisions birds flying, or clouds drifting over landscape... Sorry for the late reply. So currently the plugins are rather complicated to create as there are plenty of holes to fall down. I could write a few words but what I think would be better atm is to work it from the other side (i.e. make plugins really easy to make). What I would like to do is to make a customisable plugin which has an interprited script which allows very easy changes of what it does. The script specifies the image locations and what movements the images take every frame. Should be simple enough that non-programmers can do it. Over Christmas I did get somewhere towards this but this wont be complete for a few months. In the mean time I can easily make a new plugin with the background and have the progress bar from mizmo [1], so long as that is what is wanted. The birds flying away is easy to do (like [2]) but I will wait till the background settles down and there is a common demand for something in particular (send suggestions and if people agree I will put it in). [1] http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/ [2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7NqQ30KfAo#t=6m28s From brianhurren at yahoo.com Mon Mar 16 18:03:39 2009 From: brianhurren at yahoo.com (brian hurren) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: help with wallpaper Message-ID: <878367.19995.qm@web51308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> exactly what kind of help? Get the world's best email - http://nz.mail.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Mon Mar 16 18:25:03 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: new direction for the wallpaper In-Reply-To: <1237221753.2946.8.camel@pc-notebook> References: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1237192258.2946.4.camel@pc-notebook> <201295.82892.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1237221753.2946.8.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <788589.67571.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Martin Sourada > "Blame" Matthias -- if it were not for him pointing it out, I wouldn't > probably come to this conclusion all by myself. His critique made me > think about it and you've read the result :-D Okay great. So all I need to do is send unintentionally offensive funny emails to start a controversy, and suddenly the feedback will pour in. I'm not sure I'm going to be up for that again, though. :( ~m From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Mon Mar 16 18:27:22 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: help with wallpaper In-Reply-To: <878367.19995.qm@web51308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <878367.19995.qm@web51308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <814874.74195.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > exactly what kind of help? For some reason I'm not able to find the thread that you're replying to, but if you are interested in helping out with the wallpaper we can use: 1 - detailed critique 2 - help in sourcing appropriately-licensed reference and source photographs (CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, public domain, GNU documentation license are all acceptable licenses) 3 - help in iterating the wallpaper (the files are at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11) ~m From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Mon Mar 16 18:27:22 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: help with wallpaper In-Reply-To: <878367.19995.qm@web51308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <878367.19995.qm@web51308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <814874.74195.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > exactly what kind of help? For some reason I'm not able to find the thread that you're replying to, but if you are interested in helping out with the wallpaper we can use: 1 - detailed critique 2 - help in sourcing appropriately-licensed reference and source photographs (CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, public domain, GNU documentation license are all acceptable licenses) 3 - help in iterating the wallpaper (the files are at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11) ~m From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 18:57:57 2009 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:57:57 -0500 Subject: new direction for the wallpaper In-Reply-To: <788589.67571.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1237192258.2946.4.camel@pc-notebook> <201295.82892.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1237221753.2946.8.camel@pc-notebook> <788589.67571.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49BEA135.8010301@gmail.com> ? wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: Martin Sourada >> > > >> "Blame" Matthias -- if it were not for him pointing it out, I wouldn't >> probably come to this conclusion all by myself. His critique made me >> think about it and you've read the result :-D >> > > Okay great. So all I need to do is send unintentionally offensive funny emails to start a controversy, and suddenly the feedback will pour in. > > I'm not sure I'm going to be up for that again, though. > > :( > > ~m > That's why you blackmail someone like me into doing those messages -- ~Michael http://michaelbox.net From martin.sourada at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 19:38:44 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:38:44 +0100 Subject: new direction for the wallpaper In-Reply-To: <788589.67571.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1237192258.2946.4.camel@pc-notebook> <201295.82892.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1237221753.2946.8.camel@pc-notebook> <788589.67571.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1237232324.2946.19.camel@pc-notebook> On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 11:25 -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Martin Sourada > > > "Blame" Matthias -- if it were not for him pointing it out, I wouldn't > > probably come to this conclusion all by myself. His critique made me > > think about it and you've read the result :-D > > Okay great. So all I need to do is send unintentionally offensive funny > emails to start a controversy, and suddenly the feedback will pour in. > > I'm not sure I'm going to be up for that again, though. > > :( > Not sure this was needed... But having it in release definitely helps a lot. Naturally, we cannot see everything ourselves, but the feedback from people outside of the Art Team can be the push (like with Matthias). I hope more mails will pour in after the Beta is released to public ;-) Come to think of it, it would be really great to have it in Alpha already, but seeing how we are always late with schedule (note that I'm also at fault here for not helping with the actual art)... But I think the new process of creating the art also contributed a bit to us not being exactly fastest this release... I'm sure next release will be better (unless we change the process again). 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I didn't realize there was a pre-existing discussion that spoke to this. Sorry for bringing it to the list's attention then. -jef From stickster at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 20:33:55 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:33:55 -0400 Subject: new direction for the wallpaper In-Reply-To: <1237232324.2946.19.camel@pc-notebook> References: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1237192258.2946.4.camel@pc-notebook> <201295.82892.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1237221753.2946.8.camel@pc-notebook> <788589.67571.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1237232324.2946.19.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <20090316203355.GS4115@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 08:38:44PM +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 11:25 -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: Martin Sourada > > > > > "Blame" Matthias -- if it were not for him pointing it out, I wouldn't > > > probably come to this conclusion all by myself. His critique made me > > > think about it and you've read the result :-D > > > > Okay great. So all I need to do is send unintentionally offensive funny > > emails to start a controversy, and suddenly the feedback will pour in. > > > > I'm not sure I'm going to be up for that again, though. > > > > :( > > > Not sure this was needed... But having it in release definitely helps a > lot. Naturally, we cannot see everything ourselves, but the feedback > from people outside of the Art Team can be the push (like with > Matthias). I hope more mails will pour in after the Beta is released to > public ;-) Come to think of it, it would be really great to have it in > Alpha already, but seeing how we are always late with schedule (note > that I'm also at fault here for not helping with the actual art)... > > But I think the new process of creating the art also contributed a bit > to us not being exactly fastest this release... I'm sure next release > will be better (unless we change the process again). Actually, from what I could see release-over-release, this time around the Artwork team has done its best job ever of meeting a self-imposed schedule, including having a theme iterated during the early part of the cycle, producing promo Alpha and Beta banners for the web site, soliciting backgrounds, and getting one included in the Beta release. I think this team's doing a spectacular job. Nevertheless, more hands are good, and I encourage you to get involved as much as you can! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We did a survey a while back that indicated most people would prefer a landscape-based wallpaper, but maybe instead of going with mountains+temple wallpaper we could try a landscape based on the islands of Greece, e.g. maybe somewhat like this (higher res, and a bit cleaned up, no boat in the water and the land area here is a bit too busy, maybe replace it or clean it up): > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnkarakatsanis/3334225599/sizes/l/ > (Santorini Island Greece, by John.Karakatsanis CC-BY-SA) > > 2) Mount Olympus - or instead we could take the temple out of the current wallpaper and focus a bit more wholly on the mountains as the symbol of Greece rather than the temple. We might need to swap Bob's photo out for an actual photo of Mount Olympus in this case though. > > Let me know if you have any thoughts, or even better mockups / adequately-licensed reference or source photos . > > Thanks > ~m > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > Hello all, newbie to fedora-art-list here. :) I don't currently have any time on my hands to contribute any mock-ups or artwork, unfortunately. In the meantime, I wanted to offer constructive criticism and ideas. Following the current thread, I think that the direction of going for a landscape/photo-realistic wallpaper is going to be prohibitively difficult. I foresee problems with the wallpaper clashing with desktop icons due to the amount of detail required by a landscape. It will also be difficult to reconcile this theme with the, likely, more benign overall Fedora theme/icons/details. I think Fedora 7's theme is as close as anyone could really get to a highly detailed, yet not obstructive, theme. To suggest (another) alternative direction, has anyone explored employing a more subtle reference to Greek culture? I think there should be a lot of resources to pull from in this line of thought - there are many patterns/themes that could be built upon from Greek culture, for example: http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&hl=en&safe=off&q=greek+pattern&btnG=Search+Images Using such patterns as a guideline, it could be possible for someone to come up with a more abstract-style wallpaper (a la Fedora 8) that, while not necessarily beating the user over the head with Greek culture, could still subtly carry the Leonidas/Greek reference/theme/inspiration. I have some ideas of what this might look like, but as I said, no time. :( Anyway, good luck in your efforts and I look forward to the finished product! I will try to offer criticism/opinions/ideas whenever possible. -- Justin Fuhrer From jspaleta at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 22:08:35 2009 From: jspaleta at gmail.com (Jeff Spaleta) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:08:35 -0800 Subject: new direction for the wallpaper In-Reply-To: <788589.67571.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1237192258.2946.4.camel@pc-notebook> <201295.82892.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1237221753.2946.8.camel@pc-notebook> <788589.67571.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <604aa7910903161508o21cebb09tfa3cfd0e9ac2d573@mail.gmail.com> 2009/3/16 M?ir?n Duffy : > Okay great. So all I need to do is send unintentionally offensive funny emails to start a controversy, and suddenly the feedback will pour in. > > I'm not sure I'm going to be up for that again, though. That sounds like a job for me. -jef From fedora-art at brej.org Mon Mar 16 23:03:14 2009 From: fedora-art at brej.org (Charlie Brej) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:03:14 +0000 Subject: Banners and splashes In-Reply-To: <49BE8277.8040704@brej.org> References: <20090313001203.GE333@localhost.localdomain> <49BA70CF.3020907@nicubunu.ro> <20090313165029.GC3579@localhost.localdomain> <49BE8277.8040704@brej.org> Message-ID: <49BEDAB2.9060901@brej.org> Charlie Brej wrote: > In the mean time I can easily make a new plugin with the background and > have the progress bar from mizmo [1], so long as that is what is wanted. Just to keep people up to date, here are a couple screenshots of the background in a plymouth plugin[1][2] (I picked one of the old ones for now which I personally think looks rather nice). Hopefully tomorrow night I'll get the progress bar going in a squerly pattern. I have made the frames of each segment progressing[3], now just the case of stringing several of them together and ripple their actions. [1] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/leo1.png [2] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/leo2.png [3] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/leo_progress.gif From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Mar 17 07:49:51 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:49:51 +0200 Subject: new direction for the wallpaper In-Reply-To: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49BF561F.7050806@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Based on some feedback we've gotten about the beta wallpaper, I have a couple of approaches to suggest for moving forward, let me know which you think is the better approach: This morning I had the time to think a bit about changing directions: possibly this will make Paul nervous and it may put some deadlines in danger, but before committing to a radical change, I think it would be useful to see the post-beta feedback from a larger mass the users: the first wave of reviews, blogs and forum talks (the perception setters). We all here, supporters or critics, are pretty much subjectively involved and I think a breath of fresh air from the outside is valuable. What I said above is not to be read as "stop the development", just as "keep all the options open". -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From luca at foppiano.org Tue Mar 17 10:35:03 2009 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:35:03 +0100 Subject: new direction for the wallpaper In-Reply-To: <49BF561F.7050806@nicubunu.ro> References: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49BF561F.7050806@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1237286103.3678.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 09:49 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > What I said above is not to be read as "stop the development", just as > "keep all the options open". +1 :) Luca -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 3rd day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 A penny saved is a penny to squander. -- Ambrose Bierce From duffy at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 17 11:58:30 2009 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: new direction for the wallpaper In-Reply-To: <49BF561F.7050806@nicubunu.ro> References: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49BF561F.7050806@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <793969.5194.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Nicu Buculei > To: Fedora Art List > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 3:49:51 AM > Subject: Re: new direction for the wallpaper > > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Based on some feedback we've gotten about the beta wallpaper, I have a couple > of approaches to suggest for moving forward, let me know which you think is the > better approach: > > This morning I had the time to think a bit about changing directions: possibly > this will make Paul nervous and it may put some deadlines in danger, but before > committing to a radical change, I think it would be useful to see the post-beta > feedback from a larger mass the users: the first wave of reviews, blogs and > forum talks (the perception setters). > We all here, supporters or critics, are pretty much subjectively involved and I > think a breath of fresh air from the outside is valuable. > > What I said above is not to be read as "stop the development", just as "keep all > the options open". I think if more folks are willing to step up and commit to making it happen, it would be great for us to be able to change direction in response to the feedback we get. We do have to keep an eye on the schedule though. Right now I'm a little bit nervous about the manpower we have going into the wallpaper as I've already needed to put in a couple of late nights. :( ~m From stickster at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 14:33:50 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:33:50 -0400 Subject: new direction for the wallpaper - NEW FOLKS TOO! In-Reply-To: <793969.5194.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49BF561F.7050806@nicubunu.ro> <793969.5194.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090317143350.GH17102@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 04:58:30AM -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: Nicu Buculei > > To: Fedora Art List > > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 3:49:51 AM > > Subject: Re: new direction for the wallpaper > > > > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > > Based on some feedback we've gotten about the beta wallpaper, I > > > have a couple of approaches to suggest for moving forward, let > > > me know which you think is the better approach: > > > > This morning I had the time to think a bit about changing > > directions: possibly this will make Paul nervous and it may put > > some deadlines in danger, but before committing to a radical > > change, I think it would be useful to see the post-beta feedback > > from a larger mass the users: the first wave of reviews, blogs and > > forum talks (the perception setters). We all here, supporters or > > critics, are pretty much subjectively involved and I think a > > breath of fresh air from the outside is valuable. > > > > What I said above is not to be read as "stop the development", > > just as "keep all the options open". > > I think if more folks are willing to step up and commit to making it > happen, it would be great for us to be able to change direction in > response to the feedback we get. We do have to keep an eye on the > schedule though. Right now I'm a little bit nervous about the > manpower we have going into the wallpaper as I've already needed to > put in a couple of late nights. :( I think the Artwork team should be empowered to change direction if needed. The point of having a wallpaper release in the Beta was to encourage more feedback. If the team doesn't feel it can act on that feedback, it would be silly to bother in the first place! :-) As far as the schedule goes, I see it as an organic process that we try to improve and tune with each release. If it doesn't work perfectly this release, we will try to capture the problems and resolve them with a better attempt for the F12 schedule. Mo is right, we do need people to commit to helping with any changes proposed. It's great to have ideas coming in, and we should simply ask that the changes be backed up by a person agreeing to execute them, or that the Artwork team agree to make a decision by a specific date on which changes they'll accept and work on. How do you guys feel about a simple task list on the wiki by which artists could claim a task? That might make it easier to see what's left to do, and make progress. If all the work looks like it will land on one artist, maybe because people don't know what they can step up to do, it's far less likely to get done -- or at least, it will be very painful for that person when it does! It seems like we've had quite a number of people come by the list recently offering to learn and help, and this is a good occasion for them to do so. It's relatively easy to take some existing art from a background and make, say, a single banner with specific dimensions. (At least, it seems easy to me, even though I'm not an artist!) :-) If each person taking a task (1) feels responsible for getting that task done, (2) knows exactly what is needed to finish it, and (3) knows when it's due, I suspect we have enough talented artists here to get everything done. It's *so* much easier for ten people to put in two hours of work each, than for two people to put in ten hours each. And as others have said before, it's also easier for experienced folks to fine-tune a particular task, than to do the whole thing from scratch. And asking for help is always encouraged here! It looks like there is a very complete set of instructions already on the Artwork team's wiki area, which would help form the task list (along with the bullet list of different splashes and banners): https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemingOverview Do team members think we can get all the other art done in time for the Fedora 11 Preview Release? That might mean a tight schedule, since I think all the freeze stuff for F11 Preview happens around April 14, a little less than a month from now. But I think it can be done if we can put a plan in place quickly, first for deciding and making changes to the background however the Artwork team feels is required, then tasking out the rest of the theme and getting those pieces done. The last thing on my mind is being schedule-pushy as the FPL. The Artwork team has long expressed the desire to get Artwork done sooner, so I'm just trying to bring that historical perspective. I think people are doing a great job already, and I really feel there's enough momentum to do a superb F11 Preview with full artwork. Let's make it easy for people to grab a small piece of work and own it. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Mar 17 15:17:49 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:17:49 +0200 Subject: new direction for the wallpaper - NEW FOLKS TOO! In-Reply-To: <20090317143350.GH17102@localhost.localdomain> References: <734247.11172.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49BF561F.7050806@nicubunu.ro> <793969.5194.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090317143350.GH17102@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49BFBF1D.2030201@nicubunu.ro> Paul W. Frields wrote: > > I think the Artwork team should be empowered to change direction if > needed. The point of having a wallpaper release in the Beta was to > encourage more feedback. If the team doesn't feel it can act on that > feedback, it would be silly to bother in the first place! :-) As far > as the schedule goes, I see it as an organic process that we try to > improve and tune with each release. If it doesn't work perfectly this > release, we will try to capture the problems and resolve them with a > better attempt for the F12 schedule. > > Mo is right, we do need people to commit to helping with any changes > proposed. It's great to have ideas coming in, and we should simply > ask that the changes be backed up by a person agreeing to execute > them, or that the Artwork team agree to make a decision by a specific > date on which changes they'll accept and work on. I am leaning towards an enhancement on what we have in Beta instead of changing the direction, but I need to see the reactions once it is in the wild (I am often proved wrong). > How do you guys feel about a simple task list on the wiki by which > artists could claim a task? That might make it easier to see what's > left to do, and make progress. If all the work looks like it will > land on one artist, maybe because people don't know what they can step > up to do, it's far less likely to get done -- or at least, it will be > very painful for that person when it does! It seems like we've had > quite a number of people come by the list recently offering to learn > and help, and this is a good occasion for them to do so. It's > relatively easy to take some existing art from a background and make, > say, a single banner with specific dimensions. (At least, it seems > easy to me, even though I'm not an artist!) :-) The list is quite clear, it may be a copy/paste of your previous email or a simplification of the ThemingOverview page. But those tasks are blocking on the main wallpaper, since they will be a derivative of it. Or do you talk about a list of tasks for helping with the wallpaper, like finding source photos and such? > It looks like there is a very complete set of instructions already on > the Artwork team's wiki area, which would help form the task list > (along with the bullet list of different splashes and banners): > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/ThemingOverview Yes, that is the reference, it is slightly outdated but is our best reference. > Do team members think we can get all the other art done in time for > the Fedora 11 Preview Release? That might mean a tight schedule, > since I think all the freeze stuff for F11 Preview happens around > April 14, a little less than a month from now. But I think it can be > done if we can put a plan in place quickly, first for deciding and > making changes to the background however the Artwork team feels is > required, then tasking out the rest of the theme and getting those > pieces done. I think it will be an interesting experience: until now we had abstract graphics, so it was easier to make things like Anaconda banners by just moving the elements in Inkscape, with photorealistic images I am not sure what's the best: different photos, heavy photomanipulation or just clever cropping. > The last thing on my mind is being schedule-pushy as the FPL. The > Artwork team has long expressed the desire to get Artwork done sooner, > so I'm just trying to bring that historical perspective. I think > people are doing a great job already, and I really feel there's enough > momentum to do a superb F11 Preview with full artwork. Let's make it > easy for people to grab a small piece of work and own it. We need someone to keep us with our feet on earth and remind about mundane things such as schedule... :p -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From prasadpepakayala at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 12:02:57 2009 From: prasadpepakayala at gmail.com (Vara Prasad Pepakayala) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:32:57 +0530 Subject: Hi Friends.. Do Not Reply.. test Message.. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From duffy at fedoraproject.org Wed Mar 18 19:01:54 2009 From: duffy at fedoraproject.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:01:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork Message-ID: <194510.72487.qm@web50910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi, What do you think about this as a base style to go with for the various banners/splashes for F11? http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/style/fedora-greek-style_mockup.png even plainer: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/style/fedora-greek-style_mockup_2.png Is it too over-the-top Greek? I was trying to go for a subtle and contemporary interpretation of a classic Greek motif. ~m From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Wed Mar 18 19:49:40 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork In-Reply-To: <194510.72487.qm@web50910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <194510.72487.qm@web50910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <298617.40540.qm@web50907.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: M?ir?n Duffy > What do you think about this as a base style to go with for the various > banners/splashes for F11? > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/style/fedora-greek-style_mockup.png > > even plainer: > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/style/fedora-greek-style_mockup_2.png A couple more along similar lines: From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Wed Mar 18 19:50:32 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork Message-ID: <863648.16842.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: M?ir?n Duffy > > > What do you think about this as a base style to go with for the various > > banners/splashes for F11? > > > > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/style/fedora-greek-style_mockup.png > > > > even plainer: > > > > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/style/fedora-greek-style_mockup_2.png > > A couple more along similar lines: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-1.png http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-2.png (sorry about the extraneous useless message, my mail client is braindead sometimes) ~m From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 20:10:57 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:10:57 +0100 Subject: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork In-Reply-To: <863648.16842.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <863648.16842.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1237407057.2900.11.camel@pc-notebook> On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 12:50 -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > From: M?ir?n Duffy > > > > > What do you think about this as a base style to go with for the various > > > banners/splashes for F11? > > > > > > > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/style/fedora-greek-style_mockup.png > > > > > > even plainer: > > > > > > > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/style/fedora-greek-style_mockup_2.png > > > > A couple more along similar lines: > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-1.png > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-2.png > > (sorry about the extraneous useless message, my mail client is braindead sometimes) > > ~m These two look great. Although, wouldn't it be better to call it kde-splash (since, unlike the gnome one, it is enabled by default)? I am unsure which would be better though, perhaps I'm slightly more inclined towards the one with the 'fedora' word, rather than the logo. But come to think of it, would it be desirable/worth a try to promote the four foundations there - i.e. putting there the four F's logo? I think it might fit well within the design. And about the banners - they seem over too simple to me, there're lots of "deaf" space there (just simple gradient and nothing more taking up a lot of space). Starting with the second one and add some more details (not sure though, what would fit there) to the currently plain blue background might help. Also, what are these banners for? IIRC in anaconda these are "shorter" and thus the deaf spots would be reduced to practically nil. Overal I think the way you've chosen is a good one :) Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Wed Mar 18 20:29:22 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:29:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork In-Reply-To: <1237407057.2900.11.camel@pc-notebook> References: <863648.16842.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1237407057.2900.11.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <72409.39317.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Martin! ----- Original Message ---- > From: Martin Sourada > > (sorry about the extraneous useless message, my mail client is braindead > sometimes) Thanks for the feedback! :) > These two look great. Although, wouldn't it be better to call it > kde-splash (since, unlike the gnome one, it is enabled by default)? We'll be doing a gnome splash either way. This is meant to just be a quick example of one of the many splashes we do just to see an application of the style idea. The KDE splash will necessitate a slightly different design because of the particulars of how those are done. > I am > unsure which would be better though, perhaps I'm slightly more inclined > towards the one with the 'fedora' word, rather than the logo. Yeh, I'm not sure either but I'm leaning more towards the logotype alone as well. > But come > to think of it, would it be desirable/worth a try to promote the four > foundations there - i.e. putting there the four F's logo? I think it > might fit well within the design. Mixing the four f's into the theme doesn't strike me as being particularly appropriate. Having an alternate theme that uses the four F's would be cool though. I think Clint is working on something like that. (If you're reading, do you have more details Clint?) > And about the banners - they seem over too simple to me, there're lots > of "deaf" space there (just simple gradient and nothing more taking up a > lot of space). Starting with the second one and add some more details > (not sure though, what would fit there) to the currently plain blue > background might help. Also, what are these banners for? IIRC in > anaconda these are "shorter" and thus the deaf spots would be reduced to > practically nil. They aren't actual banners, they are just design mockups to show a treatment of a Greek motif along with the Fedora logo and colors. Just to kind of give the feel... > > Overal I think the way you've chosen is a good one :) Cool :) ~m From ianweller at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 21:42:00 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:42:00 -0500 Subject: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork In-Reply-To: <72409.39317.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <863648.16842.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1237407057.2900.11.camel@pc-notebook> <72409.39317.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090318214200.GB28787@gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 01:29:22PM -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > to think of it, would it be desirable/worth a try to promote the four > > foundations there - i.e. putting there the four F's logo? I think it > > might fit well within the design. > > Mixing the four f's into the theme doesn't strike me as being particularly appropriate. Having an alternate theme that uses the four F's would be cool though. I think Clint is working on something like that. 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There is a video[1] and the source for anyone who wants to have a go at running it. Currently we have spinfinity as the default splash for F11. Do we want to go with a theme specific splash or stick with a generic one? [1] Flash: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/plymouth_leo2.swf Ogg: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/plymouth_leo2.ogv [2] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/leonidas.tar.gz From ianweller at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 02:07:37 2009 From: ianweller at gmail.com (Ian Weller) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:07:37 -0500 Subject: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork In-Reply-To: <49C17660.1090305@brej.org> References: <194510.72487.qm@web50910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49C17660.1090305@brej.org> Message-ID: <20090319020737.GB4096@gmail.com> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:32:00PM +0000, Charlie Brej wrote: > I made a plymouth splash based on it. There > is a video[1] and the source for anyone who wants to have a go at running > it. Currently we have spinfinity as the default splash for F11. Do we > want to go with a theme specific splash or stick with a generic one? > Hot. Go with this, I say. -- Ian Weller GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I like them and I do not find them too over-the-top Greek, back when I was a kid I enjoyed *a lot* reading a book with ancient Greek legends. This is cool. However, I find them a bit too plain, I would like them more vivid, maybe combined with the photo we are going to use as a background? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 19 07:10:10 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:10:10 +0200 Subject: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork In-Reply-To: <49C17660.1090305@brej.org> References: <194510.72487.qm@web50910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49C17660.1090305@brej.org> Message-ID: <49C1EFD2.6000309@nicubunu.ro> Charlie Brej wrote: > I do like. Simple yet styled. I made a plymouth splash based on it. > There is a video[1] and the source for anyone who wants to have a go at Cool animation Charlie, but somewhat slow :p I hope the F11 boot process will not take *that* much and increasing the speed of the white line may not be good looking, how about making the shape bigger (so it is filled faster)? > running it. Currently we have spinfinity as the default splash for F11. > Do we want to go with a theme specific splash or stick with a generic one? > > [1] Flash: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/plymouth_leo2.swf > Ogg: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/plymouth_leo2.ogv > [2] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/leonidas.tar.gz -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From jreznik at redhat.com Thu Mar 19 08:23:43 2009 From: jreznik at redhat.com (Jaroslav Reznik) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:23:43 +0100 Subject: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork In-Reply-To: <863648.16842.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <863648.16842.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200903190923.43850.jreznik@redhat.com> On Wednesday 18 March 2009 20:50:32 M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > > From: M?ir?n Duffy > > > > > > What do you think about this as a base style to go with for the various > > > banners/splashes for F11? > > > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/style/fedora-greek-style_mo > >ckup.png > > > > > even plainer: > > > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/style/fedora-greek-style_mo > >ckup_2.png > > > > A couple more along similar lines: > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-1.png > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-2.png Hi, it's nice, Greek key makes it more alive but still it's looks too artificial, computer like... Do you have SVG sources for splashes? And for KDE I'm not sure - I'd like to have fullscreen one (as for F10, it solves some background issues for people using GDM) but now when wallpaper is different it needs another big background image in package for KDM and KSplashX... I'll try to manage it somehow... And of course I'd like to match with Plymouth splash... Jaroslav > (sorry about the extraneous useless message, my mail client is braindead > sometimes) > > ~m > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Jaroslav ?ezn?k Associate Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ From fedora-art at brej.org Thu Mar 19 09:30:42 2009 From: fedora-art at brej.org (Charlie Brej) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:30:42 +0000 Subject: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork In-Reply-To: <49C1EFD2.6000309@nicubunu.ro> References: <194510.72487.qm@web50910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49C17660.1090305@brej.org> <49C1EFD2.6000309@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <49C210C2.9050701@brej.org> Nicu Buculei wrote: > Charlie Brej wrote: >> I do like. Simple yet styled. I made a plymouth splash based on it. >> There is a video[1] and the source for anyone who wants to have a go at > > Cool animation Charlie, but somewhat slow :p I hope the F11 boot process > will not take *that* much and increasing the speed of the white line may > not be good looking, how about making the shape bigger (so it is filled > faster)? Its not the shape that is slowing it down, its a predicted boot time which by default in test mode is set to 60 seconds (2-3 times slower than real). We match the machine's boot speed to the animation. On that topic, the CPU usage is practically 0% which is nice. From stickster at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 13:02:51 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:02:51 -0400 Subject: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork In-Reply-To: <49C210C2.9050701@brej.org> References: <194510.72487.qm@web50910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49C17660.1090305@brej.org> <49C1EFD2.6000309@nicubunu.ro> <49C210C2.9050701@brej.org> Message-ID: <20090319130251.GD26147@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 09:30:42AM +0000, Charlie Brej wrote: > Nicu Buculei wrote: >> Charlie Brej wrote: >>> I do like. Simple yet styled. I made a plymouth splash based on it. >>> There is a video[1] and the source for anyone who wants to have a go >>> at >> >> Cool animation Charlie, but somewhat slow :p I hope the F11 boot process >> will not take *that* much and increasing the speed of the white line may >> not be good looking, how about making the shape bigger (so it is filled >> faster)? > > Its not the shape that is slowing it down, its a predicted boot time which > by default in test mode is set to 60 seconds (2-3 times slower than real). > We match the machine's boot speed to the animation. > > On that topic, the CPU usage is practically 0% which is nice. I figured as much watching it. *Love* it! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Like this: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/gnome-splash_f11.png -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Thu Mar 19 13:48:24 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 06:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork In-Reply-To: <49C249B9.2060403@nicubunu.ro> References: <194510.72487.qm@web50910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49C1EF19.2060907@nicubunu.ro> <49C249B9.2060403@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <750627.188.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Nicu Buculei > > However, I find them a bit too plain, I would like them more vivid, maybe > combined with the photo we are going to use as a background? > > Like this: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/gnome-splash_f11.png I'll raise your wallpaper splash with this: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png What do you think? ~m From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu Mar 19 14:03:48 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:03:48 +0200 Subject: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork In-Reply-To: <750627.188.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <194510.72487.qm@web50910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49C1EF19.2060907@nicubunu.ro> <49C249B9.2060403@nicubunu.ro> <750627.188.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49C250C4.6050607@nicubunu.ro> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Nicu Buculei >>> However, I find them a bit too plain, I would like them more vivid, maybe >> combined with the photo we are going to use as a background? >> >> Like this: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/gnome-splash_f11.png > > I'll raise your wallpaper splash with this: > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png > > What do you think? Increase the transparency just a bit and I'll pay. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From stickster at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 14:50:35 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:50:35 -0400 Subject: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork In-Reply-To: <49C250C4.6050607@nicubunu.ro> References: <194510.72487.qm@web50910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49C1EF19.2060907@nicubunu.ro> <49C249B9.2060403@nicubunu.ro> <750627.188.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49C250C4.6050607@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <20090319145035.GF26147@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 04:03:48PM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: Nicu Buculei >>>> However, I find them a bit too plain, I would like them more vivid, >>>> maybe >>> combined with the photo we are going to use as a background? >>> >>> Like this: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/gnome-splash_f11.png >> >> I'll raise your wallpaper splash with this: >> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png >> >> What do you think? > > Increase the transparency just a bit and I'll pay. Art volleys are cool. I remember seeing a design contest like this that was done "live" on some closed platform, probably Adobe something-or-other. That would be interesting to do during a more down period, like right after a release... art iterations done with commentary on IRC and shared via f-peeps. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For me this would be the so far best way to go :) Just a suggestion. I think in this design the copyright notice and the Greek element below it would better work if they were placed at bottom, perhaps even in reversed order. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Today's Topics: 1. Request for Design (Gerold Kassube) 2. base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork (M?ir?n Duffy) 3. Re: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork (M?ir?n Duffy) 4. Re: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork (M?ir?n Duffy) 5. Re: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork (Martin Sourada) 6. Re: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork (M?ir?n Duffy) 7. Re: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork (Ian Weller) 8. Re: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork (Charlie Brej) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:30:08 +0100 From: Gerold Kassube Subject: Request for Design To: fedora-art-list at redhat.com Message-ID: <1237401008.29614.8.camel at F10Lap1.homenet.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Team, I want to produce pins and I want also to produce a "set of pins" like http://palmersproducts.net/catalog/images/symbol_lapels%20copy.gif But I want to have the foundations together with the logo and now I'm wondering and also asking who can design or create me the draft for producing. In detail I want to have Logo + letters "first" Logo + letters "freedom" Logo + letters "first" Logo + letters "friends" and if possible in the correct Fedora font :-) All should be in a vector scalable graphics which can be used for other ideas also; but I'm sure you know what to do. Thanks for your help! -- Regards Gerold Kassube Fedora Ambassador Deutschland / Germany Schweiz / Switzerland Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I was trying to go for a subtle and contemporary interpretation of a classic Greek motif. ~m ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:49:40 -0700 (PDT) From: M?ir?n Duffy Subject: Re: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork To: Fedora Art List Message-ID: <298617.40540.qm at web50907.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 ----- Original Message ---- > From: M?ir?n Duffy > What do you think about this as a base style to go with for the various > banners/splashes for F11? > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/style/fedora-greek-style_mockup.png > > even plainer: > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/style/fedora-greek-style_mockup_2.png A couple more along similar lines: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:50:32 -0700 (PDT) From: M?ir?n Duffy Subject: Re: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork To: Fedora Art List Message-ID: <863648.16842.qm at web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: M?ir?n Duffy > > > What do you think about this as a base style to go with for the various > > banners/splashes for F11? > > > > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/style/fedora-greek-style_mockup.png > > > > even plainer: > > > > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/style/fedora-greek-style_mockup_2.png > > A couple more along similar lines: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-1.png http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-2.png (sorry about the extraneous useless message, my mail client is braindead sometimes) ~m ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:10:57 +0100 From: Martin Sourada Subject: Re: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork To: Fedora Art List Message-ID: <1237407057.2900.11.camel at pc-notebook> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 12:50 -0700, M??ir??n Duffy wrote: > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > From: M??ir??n Duffy > > > > > What do you think about this as a base style to go with for the various > > > banners/splashes for F11? > > > > > > > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/style/fedora-greek-style_mockup.png > > > > > > even plainer: > > > > > > > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/style/fedora-greek-style_mockup_2.png > > > > A couple more along similar lines: > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-1.png > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-2.png > > (sorry about the extraneous useless message, my mail client is braindead sometimes) > > ~m These two look great. Although, wouldn't it be better to call it kde-splash (since, unlike the gnome one, it is enabled by default)? I am unsure which would be better though, perhaps I'm slightly more inclined towards the one with the 'fedora' word, rather than the logo. But come to think of it, would it be desirable/worth a try to promote the four foundations there - i.e. putting there the four F's logo? I think it might fit well within the design. And about the banners - they seem over too simple to me, there're lots of "deaf" space there (just simple gradient and nothing more taking up a lot of space). Starting with the second one and add some more details (not sure though, what would fit there) to the currently plain blue background might help. Also, what are these banners for? IIRC in anaconda these are "shorter" and thus the deaf spots would be reduced to practically nil. Overal I think the way you've chosen is a good one :) Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/attachments/20090318/c123d7d5/attachment.bin ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:29:22 -0700 (PDT) From: M?ir?n Duffy Subject: Re: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork To: Fedora Art List Message-ID: <72409.39317.qm at web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Martin! ----- Original Message ---- > From: Martin Sourada > > (sorry about the extraneous useless message, my mail client is braindead > sometimes) Thanks for the feedback! :) > These two look great. Although, wouldn't it be better to call it > kde-splash (since, unlike the gnome one, it is enabled by default)? We'll be doing a gnome splash either way. This is meant to just be a quick example of one of the many splashes we do just to see an application of the style idea. The KDE splash will necessitate a slightly different design because of the particulars of how those are done. > I am > unsure which would be better though, perhaps I'm slightly more inclined > towards the one with the 'fedora' word, rather than the logo. Yeh, I'm not sure either but I'm leaning more towards the logotype alone as well. > But come > to think of it, would it be desirable/worth a try to promote the four > foundations there - i.e. putting there the four F's logo? I think it > might fit well within the design. Mixing the four f's into the theme doesn't strike me as being particularly appropriate. Having an alternate theme that uses the four F's would be cool though. I think Clint is working on something like that. (If you're reading, do you have more details Clint?) > And about the banners - they seem over too simple to me, there're lots > of "deaf" space there (just simple gradient and nothing more taking up a > lot of space). Starting with the second one and add some more details > (not sure though, what would fit there) to the currently plain blue > background might help. Also, what are these banners for? IIRC in > anaconda these are "shorter" and thus the deaf spots would be reduced to > practically nil. They aren't actual banners, they are just design mockups to show a treatment of a Greek motif along with the Fedora logo and colors. Just to kind of give the feel... > > Overal I think the way you've chosen is a good one :) Cool :) ~m ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:42:00 -0500 From: Ian Weller Subject: Re: base banner style for f11 leonidas artwork To: Fedora Art List Message-ID: <20090318214200.GB28787 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 01:29:22PM -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > to think of it, would it be desirable/worth a try to promote the four > > foundations there - i.e. putting there the four F's logo? I think it > > might fit well within the design. > > Mixing the four f's into the theme doesn't strike me as being particularly appropriate. Having an alternate theme that uses the four F's would be cool though. I think Clint is working on something like that. 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There is a video[1] and the source for anyone who wants to have a go at running it. Currently we have spinfinity as the default splash for F11. Do we want to go with a theme specific splash or stick with a generic one? [1] Flash: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/plymouth_leo2.swf Ogg: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/plymouth_leo2.ogv [2] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/leonidas.tar.gz ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list End of Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 36, Issue 35 *********************************************** Get the world's best email - http://nz.mail.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Mar 20 15:38:49 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:38:49 +0200 Subject: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 36, Issue 35 In-Reply-To: <370037.70286.qm@web51308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <370037.70286.qm@web51308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49C3B889.70502@nicubunu.ro> brian hurren wrote: > What exactly is the fedora font? This: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#Complementary_Font -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Mar 20 16:27:23 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:27:23 +0200 Subject: New Member In-Reply-To: <8CB77881DC33E70-162C-57C@WEBMAIL-MZ26.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CB77881DC33E70-162C-57C@WEBMAIL-MZ26.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <49C3C3EB.7060705@nicubunu.ro> danyikki at aol.com wrote: > Hi list, Hi Daniel, > I'm Daniel i'm from Colombia but i live in Paraguay, i want to be > an fedora ambassador here. Welcome! > I'm a web developer and a graphic designer. i'm here to help you for > anything. As you can probably saw in the introductory message I sent you following the FAS application, we have an incomincg requests queue: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService Also, these days we are working on the release graphics for F11, so watch the happening on this list. > i work in HTML, CSS, FLASH, PHP, JavaScript, etc. > > i hope can help you. Looking at the list above, you may be useful to the websites team too (some of us work in both places). > Forgive me for my bad english, i speak spanish, portuguese and a lot of > english. No problem about your English, many of us are not native speakers either, and yours seems very good anyway. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From ricky at fedoraproject.org Sat Mar 21 19:12:22 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:12:22 -0400 Subject: GSoC marketing update In-Reply-To: <49C2C528.1090501@fedoraproject.org> References: <20090319163411.GB4569@calliope.phig.org> <49C2C528.1090501@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <20090321191222.GC10181@sphe.res.cmu.edu> On 2009-03-20 03:50:24 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Karsten Wade wrote: > > Fortunately, Fedora made the list of mentoring organizations for this > > year's Google Summer of Code[1]. > > > > For the next few weeks, final ideas are going to be posted, students > > will look them over, and begin proposing projects. Mentors work with > > student proposals to improve them -- get the scope and timeline well > > considered, for example. > > > > My marketeer gut says, "Get even more proposals and mentors in this > > year, so even if we get fewer student slots in a rescaled GSoC, they > > are the most passionate and dedicated students." > > > > Along those lines, I asked the Ambassadors to keep on the hunt.[2] > > Oh, and to consider being mentors to get some of their development > > ideas completed. > > > > Any other ideas of where else to go and who to ask? > > Are we running banner ads for this in the frontpage? That sounds like a great idea (forwarding this to the fedora-art-list). Thanks, Ricky -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Re: New Member (Nicu Buculei) Thanks? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you very much for my welcome i will work in these request... I will wait for your requests too.. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list End of Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 36, Issue 40 *********************************************** ________________________________________________________________________ Visita AOLLatino.com: Noticias de tu pa?s y EE.UU., e-mail, fotos, videos, clases de ingl?s y m?s. Todo lo que buscas. Todo gratis. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dilophodd at gmail.com Mon Mar 23 16:08:18 2009 From: dilophodd at gmail.com (Thomas Kole) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:08:18 +0100 Subject: f11 wood wallpaper Message-ID: <49C7B3F2.2030300@gmail.com> i made an extra wallpaper. i hope you like it! http://dilopho-dd.deviantart.com/art/F11-wood-wallaper-116861603 From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Mar 23 16:49:38 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:49:38 +0100 (CET) Subject: FUDCon Berlin 2009 Message-ID: Hi art team, On behalf of the FUDCon Berlin 2009 organizational team, I've got a few artwork requests that I'd like to make. We already have: * the basic FUDCon Berlin logo, for use on a website * the FUDCon signage http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/collateral/fudcon-signage/ * the Four F's artwork http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/collateral/fourfs/ What we're interested in now is: * a t-shirt for FUDCon Berlin, carrying on with the theme that was used for FUDCon Boston, but maybe with a new "tag cloud" * a one-page ad, for use in a magazine, or for pasting in different locations. * any F11-specific artwork, that we could make into a nice poster, when it's ready. * any generally useful Fedora banners that people might want to make, that we can use to adorn the hall (we will have an entire building to ourselves for FUDCon), so let's go crazy and showcase all sorts of stuff, especially since Mo will be in attendance (and I hope Nicu will also), and probably doing some talks about Fedora Art. I'd love to use FUDCon Berlin to really show off the coolness of the Fedora Art team, and to provide our EMEA crew with some reusable resources for future FUDCons in the region, as well as some stuff that we can use for the F11 release, and then auction off or something :) If some of this stuff already exists, can you just point me in the right directon? Thanks as always for being awesome. --Max From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Mar 23 17:14:01 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:14:01 +0200 Subject: FUDCon Berlin 2009 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49C7C359.1000907@nicubunu.ro> Max Spevack wrote: > > What we're interested in now is: > * a t-shirt for FUDCon Berlin, carrying on with the theme that was used > for FUDCon Boston, but maybe with a new "tag cloud" I guess we will take use of the tool made by Charlie, Mo should know better about the Boston t-shirts > * a one-page ad, for use in a magazine, or for pasting in different > locations. With German text? then we will need some help from a German speaker and lay the ad starting from that text. > * any F11-specific artwork, that we could make into a nice poster, when > it's ready. > * any generally useful Fedora banners that people might want to make, > that we can use to adorn the hall (we will have an entire building to > ourselves for FUDCon), so let's go crazy and showcase all sorts of Without worrying about the cost of printing this stuff? > stuff, especially since Mo will be in attendance (and I hope Nicu will > also), and probably doing some talks about Fedora Art. Bad Mo! I heard before some rumours about her coming to Berlin, but she is not listed on the wiki... I intent to be there too, but is still early. > I'd love to use FUDCon Berlin to really show off the coolness of the > Fedora Art team, and to provide our EMEA crew with some reusable > resources for future FUDCons in the region, as well as some stuff that > we can use for the F11 release, and then auction off or something :) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Mar 23 17:24:07 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:24:07 +0100 (CET) Subject: FUDCon Berlin 2009 In-Reply-To: <49C7C359.1000907@nicubunu.ro> References: <49C7C359.1000907@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Nicu Buculei wrote: > With German text? then we will need some help from a German speaker > and lay the ad starting from that text. Probably both in English and German. I'll come up with something in English, and we can mock it up there, and then translate it. I'll get back to the list with this ASAP. > Without worrying about the cost of printing this stuff? When we run out of money, we'll stop printing stuff :) But this is a good excuse to make some high quality stuff, that can last for a while, both for FUDCons and/or general events. --Max From markg85 at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 18:03:41 2009 From: markg85 at gmail.com (Mark) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:03:41 +0100 Subject: f11 wood wallpaper In-Reply-To: <49C7B3F2.2030300@gmail.com> References: <49C7B3F2.2030300@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e24a8e80903241103w7123cbc2t3f656276cb4e88ca@mail.gmail.com> I'm missing a wood texture. And it looks good! i just doubt that it would be a good fedora in generic wallpaper that is enabled by default. 2009/3/23 Thomas Kole : > i made an extra wallpaper. i hope you like it! > > http://dilopho-dd.deviantart.com/art/F11-wood-wallaper-116861603 > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > From dilophodd at gmail.com Tue Mar 24 18:16:16 2009 From: dilophodd at gmail.com (Thomas Kole) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:16:16 +0100 Subject: f11 wood wallpaper In-Reply-To: <6e24a8e80903241103w7123cbc2t3f656276cb4e88ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <49C7B3F2.2030300@gmail.com> <6e24a8e80903241103w7123cbc2t3f656276cb4e88ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49C92370.8020504@gmail.com> Mark wrote: > I'm missing a wood texture. > And it looks good! i just doubt that it would be a good fedora in > generic wallpaper that is enabled by default. > > 2009/3/23 Thomas Kole : > >> i made an extra wallpaper. i hope you like it! >> >> http://dilopho-dd.deviantart.com/art/F11-wood-wallaper-116861603 >> Thanks! Here is an update: http://dilopho-dd.deviantart.com/art/Fedora-wood-wallpaper-v2-116975355 From jreznik at redhat.com Thu Mar 26 11:12:28 2009 From: jreznik at redhat.com (Jaroslav Reznik) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:12:28 +0100 Subject: Banners and splashes In-Reply-To: <49BEDAB2.9060901@brej.org> References: <20090313001203.GE333@localhost.localdomain> <49BE8277.8040704@brej.org> <49BEDAB2.9060901@brej.org> Message-ID: <200903261212.29282.jreznik@redhat.com> On Tuesday 17 March 2009 00:03:14 Charlie Brej wrote: > Charlie Brej wrote: > > In the mean time I can easily make a new plugin with the background and > > have the progress bar from mizmo [1], so long as that is what is wanted. > > Just to keep people up to date, here are a couple screenshots of the > background in a plymouth plugin[1][2] (I picked one of the old ones for now > which I personally think looks rather nice). Hopefully tomorrow night I'll > get the progress bar going in a squerly pattern. I have made the frames of > each segment progressing[3], now just the case of stringing several of them > together and ripple their actions. Hi Charlie, is it publicly available somewhere? I'd like to match it with KDM and KSplashX theme and it's time to start working on it :) Especially progress bar animation. Thanks Jaroslav > > [1] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/leo1.png > [2] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/leo2.png > [3] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/leo_progress.gif > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list From fedora-art at brej.org Thu Mar 26 11:45:20 2009 From: fedora-art at brej.org (Charlie Brej) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:45:20 +0000 Subject: Banners and splashes In-Reply-To: <200903261212.29282.jreznik@redhat.com> References: <20090313001203.GE333@localhost.localdomain> <49BE8277.8040704@brej.org> <49BEDAB2.9060901@brej.org> <200903261212.29282.jreznik@redhat.com> Message-ID: <49CB6AD0.4080205@brej.org> Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > On Tuesday 17 March 2009 00:03:14 Charlie Brej wrote: >> Charlie Brej wrote: >>> In the mean time I can easily make a new plugin with the background and >>> have the progress bar from mizmo [1], so long as that is what is wanted. >> Just to keep people up to date, here are a couple screenshots of the >> background in a plymouth plugin[1][2] (I picked one of the old ones for now >> which I personally think looks rather nice). Hopefully tomorrow night I'll >> get the progress bar going in a squerly pattern. I have made the frames of >> each segment progressing[3], now just the case of stringing several of them >> together and ripple their actions. > > Hi Charlie, > is it publicly available somewhere? I'd like to match it with KDM and KSplashX > theme and it's time to start working on it :) Especially progress bar > animation. > Yeah, I should have mentioned here too the mail to the plymouth list. The tar[2] contains all the progress bar elements. If you want a hand then I can clump a few of them together to make the progress bar in different stages. [1] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/plymouth/2009-March/000073.html [2] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/leonidas.tar.gz From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri Mar 27 10:50:42 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:50:42 +0200 Subject: FUDCon Berlin 2009 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49CCAF82.2090806@nicubunu.ro> Max Spevack wrote: > > I'd love to use FUDCon Berlin to really show off the coolness of the > Fedora Art team, and to provide our EMEA crew with some reusable > resources for future FUDCons in the region, as well as some stuff that > we can use for the F11 release, and then auction off or something :) Here is a crazy and not easily reusable idea (if the graphic is not clear enough - a cardboard painted with the Leonidas guy and having a hole cut in it, so people can stick their faces and have a photo taken): http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/painted-cardboard.png I am trying to develop a story for my comic around it but wondered how crazy would be to have such a physical thing. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From sstorari at byte-code.com Fri Mar 27 11:32:33 2009 From: sstorari at byte-code.com (Samuele Storari) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:32:33 +0100 (CET) Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <578966896.30221238152949507.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Hi guys, I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, seeing you a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a lot of rumors about "Windows-like" layout. So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name: Leonidas come from Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use another king? This graphic proposal is about the proud and the glory for being a king and the subject is shouting:"The King is here!". I know that there's a lot of work to do, (banner & much more), but I wanted to share this concept, and get some feedbacks,before moving on. If you are interested we can make togeather all the things needed for this release. I really hope you enjoy this, and let me know your opinions. You can see the image here (Gimp source in the same page): https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg Thanks for the attention. Samuele Reference info: Rust texture comes from: http://www.lostandtaken.com/search/label/rust you can download it and use it for free. The Spray paint brushes I used comes from here: http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-one http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-two The Lion's photo it's a CC resources that I've found on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tambako/494118044/ Thanks to author for gaving me the possibility to use the image. You can find he's profile here: http://www.flickr.com/people/tambako/ -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com From krzzzt at web.de Fri Mar 27 12:16:53 2009 From: krzzzt at web.de (Justus) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:16:53 +0100 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <578966896.30221238152949507.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <20090327131653.60cdf09d.krzzzt@web.de> Simply WOW! I also like the idea of a lion or something that has more to do with the word "Leonidas" than with ancient greek culture. Nice work! I'd only change the colors of the lion towards...more blue for fedora? i don't really know, but at this point it looks a little bit too dirty i think. Not like a desktop background that is more static and calm... And also the birds shouldn't be there for my taste - or at least have another color. What about making the Lions hair less detailed, change his color a little bit, erase those birds...and for the background maybe we'll find some more greek things? On the other hand those lines make it more like Leonidas in the 21st ceentury - adding a more modern touch to it (don't forgert: these are nerdy times with a lot of technology.) -- Justus From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri Mar 27 13:07:26 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:07:26 +0100 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <1238159246.3012.9.camel@pc-notebook> On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 12:32 +0100, Samuele Storari wrote: > Hi guys, > > I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, seeing you a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a lot of rumors about "Windows-like" layout. > > So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name: Leonidas come from Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use another king? > > This graphic proposal is about the proud and the glory for being a king and the subject is shouting:"The King is here!". > > I know that there's a lot of work to do, (banner & much more), but I wanted to share this concept, and get some feedbacks,before moving on. > > If you are interested we can make togeather all the things needed for this release. > > I really hope you enjoy this, and let me know your opinions. > > You can see the image here (Gimp source in the same page): > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg > > Thanks for the attention. > > Samuele Hi Samuele, I'm not sure if it is OK to go at this point with a conceptually completely new theme but still your design looks awesome. I have only a few to point out: * The circles at the left side seem to be a little strange, also since fedora's default layout has some icons on the left part of the screen it would be nice to have the wallpaper in that part less cluttered * I think the birds, or whatever they are, are unnecessary -- the main concern with the current wallpaper is that it concentrates on too many motives at once, I think this apply on this one as well * I'd perhaps remove the stripes over the lion As for whether it is OK to use this concept for F11, I'd leave the answer to Mo. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Really a good work!! :) The concept is completely different but this new subject is really effective and awesome! :) Luca -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 13th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 He that would govern others, first should be the master of himself. From opossum1er at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 27 14:27:41 2009 From: opossum1er at fedoraproject.org (Carlos Vassalo (opossum1er)) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:27:41 +0100 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <1238163046.8951.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <1238163046.8951.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1238164061.3645.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le vendredi 27 mars 2009 ? 15:10 +0100, Luca Foppiano a ?crit : > On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 12:32 +0100, Samuele Storari wrote: ... > > So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name: Leonidas > > come from Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use another king? > > > > This graphic proposal is about the proud and the glory for being a king > > and the subject is shouting:"The King is here!". ... > Really a good work!! :) > The concept is completely different but this new subject is really > effective and awesome! :) I like it very much... :D ++ -- Carlos Vassalo (opossum1er) French fedora ambassador opossum1er at fedoraproject.org GPG fingerprint : 1E38 D153 476F C831 0CF6 0A6A 2E7A 992F 8958 8851 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: Ceci est une partie de message num?riquement sign?e URL: From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Fri Mar 27 14:32:34 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <583936.37662.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Samuele, ----- Original Message ---- > From: Samuele Storari > To: fedora-art-list > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:32:33 AM > Subject: New Concept for F11 King > > Hi guys, > > I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, seeing you > a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a lot of rumors about > "Windows-like" layout. > > So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name: Leonidas come from > Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use another king? This looks really great. There are a couple problems though: - We are *really* late in the schedule right now, and we had already made a decision, based on our survey, to go with a landscape depicting Greece so we have a number of mockups and work around that concept already. While I don't think it's completely out of the question to change course at this point, we will definitely need a commitment of help from you in getting some mockups for the other elements, e.g. some of the splash screens, etc. Can you give us that commitment and help us meet our deadlines in spite of a change in direction? - None of the source images that you used are referenced. Can you please provide references for your source images before uploading artwork to the wiki? Thanks, ~m From jreznik at redhat.com Fri Mar 27 14:39:58 2009 From: jreznik at redhat.com (Jaroslav Reznik) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:39:58 +0100 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <1238159246.3012.9.camel@pc-notebook> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <1238159246.3012.9.camel@pc-notebook> Message-ID: <200903271539.58270.jreznik@redhat.com> On Friday 27 March 2009 14:07:26 Martin Sourada wrote: > On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 12:32 +0100, Samuele Storari wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, > > seeing you a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a lot > > of rumors about "Windows-like" layout. > > > > So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name: Leonidas come > > from Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use another king? > > > > This graphic proposal is about the proud and the glory for being a king > > and the subject is shouting:"The King is here!". > > > > I know that there's a lot of work to do, (banner & much more), but I > > wanted to share this concept, and get some feedbacks,before moving on. > > > > If you are interested we can make togeather all the things needed for > > this release. > > > > I really hope you enjoy this, and let me know your opinions. > > > > You can see the image here (Gimp source in the same page): > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg > > > > Thanks for the attention. > > > > Samuele > > Hi Samuele, > > I'm not sure if it is OK to go at this point with a conceptually > completely new theme but still your design looks awesome. I have only a > few to point out: > * The circles at the left side seem to be a little strange, also > since fedora's default layout has some icons on the left part of > the screen it would be nice to have the wallpaper in that part > less cluttered +1 Same as actual Leonidas wallpaper it's maybe too overcomplicated for icons and widgets. Samule, could you redesign it? Simple, clean left side in opposite to rich right one? But it's really nice design! Maybe won't be default one, I let decision on artwork team ;-), but I'll add it to my wallpapers collection... It's nearly time to have final one... Jaroslav > * I think the birds, or whatever they are, are unnecessary -- the > main concern with the current wallpaper is that it concentrates > on too many motives at once, I think this apply on this one as > well > * I'd perhaps remove the stripes over the lion > > As for whether it is OK to use this concept for F11, I'd leave the > answer to Mo. > > Martin -- Jaroslav ?ezn?k Associate Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Fri Mar 27 14:39:41 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <583936.37662.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <583936.37662.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <440998.66240.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: M?ir?n Duffy > - None of the source images that you used are referenced. Can you please provide > references for your source images before uploading artwork to the wiki? Oh, I found the references, sorry for that. The lion picture has a clause that I just want to double check is okay: "Please note that my pictures are under the Creative Commons license. You are free to use them in any commercial or non-commercial application, but please send me a message if you used or plan on using any of my pictures, especially for commercial purposes. Thanks in advance." If he *requires* notice of commercial usage, it may pose a problem for Fedora resellers, I'll discuss this with Fedora legal to make sure and perhaps we can talk to the photographer and get his okay if it would be an issue. The rust texture doesn't have an explicit license. I can try to contact Jeff to see if he can commit to a specific CC-based license that's acceptable for Fedora: http://www.lostandtaken.com/2008/12/reader-submitted-textures-jeff-foster.html Same problem with the spray brushes. The license isn't explicit. "Free" can mean a lot of things and not all of them involve the kind of free we need, unfortunately. I can try to contact them as well. http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-two In the future, it would save a lot of work and heartache to make sure we use work that has explicitly approved licenses. When someone says something like, "hey guys here u go it's free have it!" it unfortunately does not count as an explicit license in our pre-approved list, so we have to go to Fedora legal on a case-by-case basis and many times contact the authors themselves (who are not always responsive or even reachable) to clarify the situation. ~m From luca at foppiano.org Fri Mar 27 15:50:49 2009 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:50:49 +0100 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <1238169049.8951.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 12:32 +0100, Samuele Storari wrote: [...] > The Spray paint brushes I used comes from here: > > http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-one > > http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-two those brushes are released with this licence: http://blogspoon.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/freebies/terms-of-use.html I think it's ok to use it :) What do you think? Luca -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 13th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 An exotic journey in downtown Newark is in your future. From luya at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 27 18:01:31 2009 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:01:31 -0700 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <1238169049.8951.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <1238169049.8951.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49CD147B.1010500@fedoraproject.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Luca Foppiano a ?crit : | | those brushes are released with this licence: | | http://blogspoon.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/freebies/terms-of-use.html | | I think it's ok to use it :) | | What do you think? | | Luca Never heard that license before. I wonder if it is GPL or CC compatible. - -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Designer E: luya at fedoraproject.org W: http://thefinalzone.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknNFHcACgkQa10Jb0NOz+EjTACfUeq7J8Beug4iYiBbit8ffBJZ w4AAoIlI/voQpcxPN5ZY1EMojLwQw96e =Lgi0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From luya at fedoraproject.org Fri Mar 27 18:06:58 2009 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:06:58 -0700 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <49CD15C2.308@fedoraproject.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Samuele Storari a ?crit : | Hi guys, | | I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, seeing you a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a lot of rumors about "Windows-like" layout. | | So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name: Leonidas come from Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use another king? | | This graphic proposal is about the proud and the glory for being a king and the subject is shouting:"The King is here!". | | I know that there's a lot of work to do, (banner & much more), but I wanted to share this concept, and get some feedbacks,before moving on. | | If you are interested we can make togeather all the things needed for this release. | | I really hope you enjoy this, and let me know your opinions. | | You can see the image here (Gimp source in the same page): | | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg | Very interesting wallpaper. Like other people, I wonder if it is a bit late for Fedora 11 Leonidas as default. Tweaking the existing version from F11 Beta is the way to go. Otherwise, That King wallpaper should be included once licenses have been verified. *Graphic Design course is finally completed. Yay!* - -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Designer E: luya at fedoraproject.org W: http://thefinalzone.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknNFcAACgkQa10Jb0NOz+ERzgCgrV5flqo0dC9Q2pYncaL+qctD LD8AoJGy6K60zsYjYYyL1o+kNtigJqA2 =0qXy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kwade at redhat.com Fri Mar 27 18:25:42 2009 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:25:42 -0700 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <1238169049.8951.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <1238169049.8951.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20090327182542.GW16319@calliope.phig.org> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 04:50:49PM +0100, Luca Foppiano wrote: > On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 12:32 +0100, Samuele Storari wrote: > > [...] > > The Spray paint brushes I used comes from here: > > > > http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-one > > > > http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-two > > those brushes are released with this licence: > > http://blogspoon.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/freebies/terms-of-use.html > > I think it's ok to use it :) > > What do you think? IANAL, but that reads to me as if it has a non-commerical use clause. It first references that it is under the CC BY, which is on the "good license" list for Fedora: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing#Good_Licenses_3 ... but then the page goes on to specify: "You can NOT sell the resources directly for profit (eg. Selling the items on stock resource websites)" Note that the license called out first does not have any non-commercial use clauses: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/uk/ ... but because they have the right to add additional clauses, and appear to have done so, it seems as if they made their redistribution require non-commercial use. Anyway, they encourage us to ask: http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/contact So you might want to get that clarified that they mean to add an additional non-commercial use clause. FWIW, the second clause about not copying the website makes sense to me. The website is a separate from the individual graphic elements, and might even have trademark restrictions, etc. This doesn't seem to put any clauses on the individual resources being licensed. - Karsten -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stickster at gmail.com Fri Mar 27 19:52:50 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:52:50 -0400 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <440998.66240.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <583936.37662.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <440998.66240.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090327195250.GB6578@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 07:39:41AM -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: M?ir?n Duffy > > - None of the source images that you used are referenced. Can you > > please provide references for your source images before uploading > > artwork to the wiki? > > Oh, I found the references, sorry for that. > > The lion picture has a clause that I just want to double check is > okay: > > "Please note that my pictures are under the Creative Commons > license. You are free to use them in any commercial or > non-commercial application, but please send me a message if you used > or plan on using any of my pictures, especially for commercial > purposes. Thanks in advance." > > If he *requires* notice of commercial usage, it may pose a problem > for Fedora resellers, I'll discuss this with Fedora legal to make > sure and perhaps we can talk to the photographer and get his okay if > it would be an issue. The way this license reads, the author is asking (note "please") for a contact, but it's not required as it would be had he used the wording "but you must send me a message...". This doesn't conflict with his clear statement that the recipient is free to use the picture in any application. > The rust texture doesn't have an explicit license. I can try to > contact Jeff to see if he can commit to a specific CC-based license > that's acceptable for Fedora: > > http://www.lostandtaken.com/2008/12/reader-submitted-textures-jeff-foster.html > > Same problem with the spray brushes. The license isn't > explicit. "Free" can mean a lot of things and not all of them > involve the kind of free we need, unfortunately. I can try to > contact them as well. > > http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-two The licensing statements for the freebies on the site are kept here: http://blogspoon.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/freebies/terms-of-use.html Quoting: ''' You Can: * Use the resources in your personal work, in whole or part. * Use the resources in your commercial work, in whole or part. * Modify the work to your personal preference. * Share the resources with others, under the following terms: o Link to the resource webpage, not the download file. o Use an excerpt from the webpage if necessary (don?t copy * the full article and display it on your site) You Can Not: * You can NOT sell the resources directly for profit (eg. Selling the items on stock resource websites) * You can NOT copy the full webpage and display it on your own website. (Use an excerpt by all means, but please link to the original resource download page ? not the actual file.) ''' The part that bothers me about these licensing texts is the statement of terms for sharing: it is unclear about whether you *must* link to his resource web page. It would be much better for the author to use a standard license such as CC-BY-SA or some other more appropriate license, not something he's written himself. > In the future, it would save a lot of work and heartache to make > sure we use work that has explicitly approved licenses. When someone > says something like, "hey guys here u go it's free have it!" it > unfortunately does not count as an explicit license in our > pre-approved list, so we have to go to Fedora legal on a > case-by-case basis and many times contact the authors themselves > (who are not always responsive or even reachable) to clarify the > situation. +1. Especially when there is not much in the way of time or resources free, having to do all this is a real drag, and gets in the way of creating and promoting beautiful art and design. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From luca at foppiano.org Fri Mar 27 21:00:44 2009 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:00:44 +0100 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <440998.66240.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <583936.37662.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <440998.66240.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1238187644.3680.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 07:39 -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > The rust texture doesn't have an explicit license. I can try to > contact Jeff to see if he can commit to a specific CC-based license > that's acceptable for Fedora: > > http://www.lostandtaken.com/2008/12/reader-submit This is the reply to my asking about possibility to use his resource: " Hey Luca, It's good to hear from you! The textures you linked to are actually copyright-free, so you can do whatever you like with them. All of the textures I give away are available for commercial and personal uses, without attribution required. Glad you find the textures useful and if you need anything else just let me know. Caleb " Luca -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 13th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 The Usenet news is out of date From nux_66 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 29 19:03:00 2009 From: nux_66 at yahoo.com (Nunu Karapetyan) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:03:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <952829.3092.qm@web58403.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hey ! Have you allrady decided about the wallpaper??If not..take a look at this one... http://www.giotto.org/santa_ninfa/selinunte1409.jpg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From billfixit2 at gmail.com Sun Mar 29 01:37:13 2009 From: billfixit2 at gmail.com (Bill DeJohn) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:37:13 -0400 Subject: Art team feature Message-ID: Hello, My name is Bill DeJohn ( Dadster ). I am co-founder of Linux Graphics Users forum. We have a monthly article where we feature a distros art team. http://linuxgraphicsusers.com/index.php?board=48.0 Fedora is one of the leading Linux distros and I would like consent to feature Fedora's art team in the upcoming month. I have a questionnaire that enables an interview format which I have included with this email. Everyone on your team should be involved in answering the questions. All I ask is it be organized so I can give credit by name to all members who participate. I will include screenshots. If you have a preference please attach with the completed questionnaire. I would appreciate if someone could respond by email to let me know if you need more info or we can go ahead with the feature. Thank You, Bill Questionnaire..... Tell us about Fedora. Give us some history on each art team member. Anyone have formal training? Who or what influenced you to get involved? What other Linux distros have you done work for? Any independent Linux groups you've contributed artwork to? Can you take us through the process from development to finalization of artwork for a new release of Fedora? Does the general community contribute also? What are your favorite Linux graphics software programs? Any thoughts on ease of use or what you'd like to see changed in Linux graphics software? As operating systems evolve so does their artwork. What direction or development would you like to see with your work pertaining to the future of Fedora? 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I have a questionnaire > that enables an interview format which I have included with this email. > Everyone on your team should be involved in answering the questions. All > I ask is it be organized so I can give credit by name to all members who > participate. Let me first introduce M?ir?n Duffy, she is the leader of our team and the most active person here, I believe you want to feature her: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Duffy > I will include screenshots. If you have a preference please attach > with the completed questionnaire. We are still a bit too early in the process of Fedora 11 (right now a few days ahead of the Beta release), so we don't have screenshots accurately showing the next release, you can follow the development here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11_Artwork We can provide, if needed, screenshots from the current release (Fedora 10) and images from the other projects we are working on (posters, t-shirts, banners, icons, logos and much more) > I would appreciate if someone could respond by email to let me know if > you need more info or we can go ahead with the feature. > > Thank You, Bill > > > Questionnaire..... I'll go first... hope others will jump in and complete me. > Tell us about Fedora. The Art Team inside Fedora has formed about 3 years ago (before this the artwork was worked inside the Desktop Team at Red Hat), trying to do for the artwork the same thing Fedora is doing in general: creating innovative and quality products with a Free license and using an open process. I like to believe we don't do a bad job at meeting this goal. > Give us some history on each art team member. Anyone have formal > training? Who or what influenced you to get involved? There are a lot of the members in the team, I find uncomfortable trying to list them, I surely will miss some. We have a list at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Contributors but it is not up to date, some are not listed (guys and girls, please add yourself) and some of those listed are not active. Some of have formal training, some are students competing their formal training right now and some are amateurs. I am an amateur. We are a heterogeneous team, from Art graduates to quantum physicists :p > What other Linux distros have you done work for? Any independent Linux > groups you've contributed artwork to? You will find here people working with various upstream projects (take GNOME as a prominent example). Personally I have a lot of fun contributing to the Open Clip Art Library (http://openclipart.org/), large library of clip art images released as Public Domain. > Can you take us through the process from development to finalization of > artwork for a new release of Fedora? Does the general community > contribute also? The general community is contributing indirectly: we try to do everything in the open, publishing the progress of our work and asking for the feedback from the larger community and then using the feedback to improve the graphics. As an example, for Fedora 11 M?ir?n Duffy conducted an informal survey on her blog and learned that a lot of users prefer a photorealistic wallpaper, so we are trying such an approach for the next release. Since the graphics are included in the Beta release, we are eagerly awaiting for the post-Beta feedback in a few days. As for the development process, we used to have a "3 rounds" system to collect and evolve different graphic concept and in the end select one by consensus. But for Fedora 10 the consensus has not worked, so we ended with 4 different concepts in the final state so had to keep an internal vote. Based on this unpleasant experience, we try something different: we selected early a concept and it was based on the release name (Fedora 11 has the code name "Leonidas") and try to work is as a team, instead of having a competition between us. We'll see hot this work and will adjust for Fedora 12. > What are your favorite Linux graphics software programs? We are huge Inkscape fans and use also GIMP a lot. We have a couple of Blender gurus and use Scribus from time to time, mostly for printing. A reason of pride for us is that the graphics for Fedora are made entirely using Fedora, we are confident in Fedora as being a good tool to fulfil all our needs. > Any thoughts on ease of use or what you'd like to see changed in Linux > graphics software? That's an easy one: better professional print support in Inkscape (CMYK, spot colors) and GEGL powered adjustment layers and more that 8 bits per channel in GIMP. Or this is what I would like to have... yesterday :p > As operating systems evolve so does their artwork. What direction or > development would you like to see with your work pertaining to the > future of Fedora? I think we are on the right track here but I personally think there is some more room left for collaboration with other teams inside the project. There is a lot of work going around the Desktop development in Fedora, so stay tuned for big things in the future. I hope we (the Art team) will be able to keep the pace, some new additions like the improved boot graphics (Plymouth) could be documented better, so we try to to as much as we can. > There are a lot of new distros popping up, seemingly every day. Any > advice you can give them on the graphics art side of it? My advice would be: do the development in the open and keep your artwork Free. Use as much as you can Free tools and always Free formats, otherwise you will not be able to work as a team. It is also useful to try to keep the barrier to entry as low as possible for the new contributors. > If someone wanted to get involved with Fedora artwork, where would they go? If you want to contribute, please subscribe to our mailing list and introduce yourself: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list I am sure we can find a lot of things with you can help with :p > Anything else you'd like to add? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From sstorari at byte-code.com Mon Mar 30 10:34:00 2009 From: sstorari at byte-code.com (Samuele Storari) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:34:00 +0200 (CEST) Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <1693908551.32241238408762619.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <666437442.32361238409240271.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Hi all... I can produce all the materials to fit the "Leonidas Lion Theme" in the scheduling for the final release, so we can bring all inside, at least as an alternative theme, I don't propose nothing for the landscape 'cause after a lot of test I really don't like my works 'cause it was so difficult for me working on that subject. Maybe this week I will provide you all we need for the graphic's pack, if someone want to collaborate with me please contact me. I hope you will take my proposal in consideration. Thanks Samuele ----- Original Message ----- From: "M?ir?n Duffy" To: "Fedora Art List" Sent: Friday, 27 March, 2009 3:32:34 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Re: New Concept for F11 King Hi Samuele, ----- Original Message ---- > From: Samuele Storari > To: fedora-art-list > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:32:33 AM > Subject: New Concept for F11 King > > Hi guys, > > I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, seeing you > a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a lot of rumors about > "Windows-like" layout. > > So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name: Leonidas come from > Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use another king? This looks really great. There are a couple problems though: - We are *really* late in the schedule right now, and we had already made a decision, based on our survey, to go with a landscape depicting Greece so we have a number of mockups and work around that concept already. While I don't think it's completely out of the question to change course at this point, we will definitely need a commitment of help from you in getting some mockups for the other elements, e.g. some of the splash screens, etc. Can you give us that commitment and help us meet our deadlines in spite of a change in direction? - None of the source images that you used are referenced. Can you please provide references for your source images before uploading artwork to the wiki? Thanks, ~m _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com From fedora-art at brej.org Mon Mar 30 12:46:36 2009 From: fedora-art at brej.org (Charlie Brej) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:46:36 +0100 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <49D0BF2C.2020100@brej.org> Samuele Storari wrote: > Hi guys, > > I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, seeing you a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a lot of rumors about "Windows-like" layout. I like this, and the people in the office love it. I don't think I would change it at all. The area on the left is nice and blue which leaves the desktop icons easily visible. The theme is perfect. Going through the image bit by bit the only thing I didn't like was the "back_work" layer which has square edges that look a bit out of place. Because the focus of the image is pretty centred (unlike solar, for example, which was to the right), we can use Zoom to clip the left and right edges and thus distribute a smaller set of images (1920x1200 with left and right clipped by Zoom on gnome desktop background options looks fine on a 1600x1200 screen). I assume this is the case for KDE as well (Jaroslav?). I'd be happy to lend a hand to anything that needs doing (that I know how to). From anton.cost at gmail.com Mon Mar 30 15:26:06 2009 From: anton.cost at gmail.com (Konstantinos Antonakoglou) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:26:06 +0300 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <49D0BF2C.2020100@brej.org> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49D0BF2C.2020100@brej.org> Message-ID: <1238426766.3056.43.camel@localhost.localdomain> To be honest, I prefer the theme with the lion to the one with the green field. The reason I proposed a concept of the theme with a river was because I didn't want it to resemble with the winxp theme... Generally, I 'd suggest a bit more "discreet" design (or placing etc) of the lion because I think there is a contrast between the right and the left side of picture which I believe could be smoothed a bit (something that was achieved at the solar theme!). The right side is overcrowded with lines and colors (because of the lion) and I think they need attention. The left side is beautiful! Well done Samuele! -- Konstantinos Antonakoglou PGP key: 0xC9E2E16B constanton @ Freenode -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From jreznik at redhat.com Mon Mar 30 15:43:18 2009 From: jreznik at redhat.com (Jaroslav Reznik) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:43:18 +0200 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <49D0BF2C.2020100@brej.org> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49D0BF2C.2020100@brej.org> Message-ID: <200903301743.18977.jreznik@redhat.com> On Monday 30 March 2009 14:46:36 Charlie Brej wrote: > Samuele Storari wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I want to submit a new concept and a new layout for this F11 release, > > seeing you a little stuck on the current landscape theme,and I hear a lot > > of rumors about "Windows-like" layout. > > I like this, and the people in the office love it. I don't think I would > change it at all. The area on the left is nice and blue which leaves the > desktop icons easily visible. The theme is perfect. > > Going through the image bit by bit the only thing I didn't like was the > "back_work" layer which has square edges that look a bit out of place. > > Because the focus of the image is pretty centred (unlike solar, for > example, which was to the right), we can use Zoom to clip the left and > right edges and thus distribute a smaller set of images (1920x1200 with > left and right clipped by Zoom on gnome desktop background options looks > fine on a 1600x1200 screen). I assume this is the case for KDE as well > (Jaroslav?). Scale&Crop should work but if we want this theme then it has to be background for KDM and KSplash and there's no scaling/cropping support. We should decide very soon which theme become default one. Current Leonidas landscape still needs a lot of work - it looks very nice on small screens (EEE) but on my workstation it lacks details and looks blurry. This Lion one is maybe too complicated but with some tweaking it could be really wonderful theme. Jaroslav > I'd be happy to lend a hand to anything that needs doing (that I know how > to). > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Jaroslav ?ezn?k Associate Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Mon Mar 30 16:43:57 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <200903301743.18977.jreznik@redhat.com> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49D0BF2C.2020100@brej.org> <200903301743.18977.jreznik@redhat.com> Message-ID: <305812.1614.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi, ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jaroslav Reznik > We should decide very soon which theme become default one. Current Leonidas > landscape still needs a lot of work - it looks very nice on small screens > (EEE) but on my workstation it lacks details and looks blurry. This Lion one > is maybe too complicated but with some tweaking it could be really wonderful > theme. I have to agree with this. Would anyone be especially opposed to going with Samuele's Lion idea, seeing that both Samuele and Charlie have committed to helping out with it? Also, some of our splash ideas (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png for example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion instead, so we would still be able to take advantage of that work. What do folks think? ~m From mclasen at redhat.com Mon Mar 30 17:13:34 2009 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:13:34 -0400 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <305812.1614.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49D0BF2C.2020100@brej.org> <200903301743.18977.jreznik@redhat.com> <305812.1614.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1238433214.3811.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 09:43 -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > What do folks think? I love the lion. Its a great background already. With some polishing, it can be perfect. Go for it, as far as I'm concerned. From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Mon Mar 30 17:28:34 2009 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:28:34 -0500 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <305812.1614.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49D0BF2C.2020100@brej.org> <200903301743.18977.jreznik@redhat.com> <305812.1614.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49D10142.8070800@gmail.com> ? wrote: > Hi, > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: Jaroslav Reznik >> > > >> We should decide very soon which theme become default one. Current Leonidas >> landscape still needs a lot of work - it looks very nice on small screens >> (EEE) but on my workstation it lacks details and looks blurry. This Lion one >> is maybe too complicated but with some tweaking it could be really wonderful >> theme. >> > > I have to agree with this. > > Would anyone be especially opposed to going with Samuele's Lion idea, seeing that both Samuele and Charlie have committed to helping out with it? > > Also, some of our splash ideas (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png for example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion instead, so we would still be able to take advantage of that work. > > What do folks think? > > ~m > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > I realize that I haven't committed much help this round and whatnot, so I really have no issue for which way we go. If we have people committed and willing to step up and make Samuele's stuff work and we can meet all the original deadlines, then I'm going to say go for it. I don't mean any disrespect towards Samuele, but I hope that with future releases, we can start getting his input earlier on in the process as he tends to come up with some very good stuff and if we could get that in the concept stages, I see nothing but very solid releases in the future with time for extra polish. -- ~Michael http://michaelbox.net From luca at foppiano.org Mon Mar 30 18:05:39 2009 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:05:39 +0200 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <20090327195250.GB6578@localhost.localdomain> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <583936.37662.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <440998.66240.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090327195250.GB6578@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1238436339.3618.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 15:52 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > The licensing statements for the freebies on the site are kept here: > http://blogspoon.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/freebies/terms-of-use.html [...] > The part that bothers me about these licensing texts is the statement > of terms for sharing: it is unclear about whether you *must* link to > his resource web page. It would be much better for the author to use > a standard license such as CC-BY-SA or some other more appropriate > license, not something he's written himself. I asked to legal at fedoraproject.org and spot replies this licence is not ok: "Unfortunately, it is a problem. Even under the less restrictive licensing requirements for content, this license is not good. In Fedora, we require that all content be "Freely Redistributable without restriction". The restrictions on selling or "copying the entire webpage" mean that the brushes (or derived artwork containing the brushes) are not acceptable in Fedora. You might ask the author of those brushes if he would be willing to let you use them under different licensing terms, perhaps under the Creative Commons Attribution license (CC-BY): http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ " I notified Samuele to ask to change this licence or change brushes. Cheers Luca -- Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 16th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 design, v.: What you regret not doing later on. From mspevack at redhat.com Mon Mar 30 19:45:38 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:45:38 +0200 (CEST) Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <305812.1614.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49D0BF2C.2020100@brej.org> <200903301743.18977.jreznik@redhat.com> <305812.1614.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Would anyone be especially opposed to going with Samuele's Lion idea, > seeing that both Samuele and Charlie have committed to helping out > with it? > > Also, some of our splash ideas > (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png > for example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion > instead, so we would still be able to take advantage of that work. > > What do folks think? As someone who is only an observer and lurker, and thus realizes that his opinion is of basically zero value, I offer a meek +1 and go back to lurking. :) All we need is the lion saying "i can has fedora" and we'll have crossed all the streams, and the Internets will cease to exist. --Max From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue Mar 31 07:03:31 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:03:31 +0300 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49D0BF2C.2020100@brej.org> <200903301743.18977.jreznik@redhat.com> <305812.1614.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49D1C043.4030507@nicubunu.ro> Max Spevack wrote: > > All we need is the lion saying "i can has fedora" and we'll have crossed > all the streams, and the Internets will cease to exist. Max, don't steal my joke for the upcoming comic (with an "i can has beta" line inside) :D -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From luca at foppiano.org Tue Mar 31 08:13:35 2009 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:13:35 +0200 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <1238436339.3618.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <583936.37662.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <440998.66240.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090327195250.GB6578@localhost.localdomain> <1238436339.3618.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1238487215.3718.42.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 20:05 +0200, Luca Foppiano wrote: > I asked to legal at fedoraproject.org and spot replies this licence is not > ok: > > "Unfortunately, it is a problem. Even under the less restrictive > licensing requirements for content, this license is not good. In Fedora, > we require that all content be "Freely Redistributable without > restriction". The restrictions on selling or "copying the entire > webpage" mean that the brushes (or derived artwork containing the > brushes) are not acceptable in Fedora. > > You might ask the author of those brushes if he would be willing to let > you use them under different licensing terms, perhaps under the Creative > Commons Attribution license (CC-BY): > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ > " > > I notified Samuele to ask to change this licence or change brushes. I'm trying to understand better his points because I think are a bit restrictive. I'll let you know. Luca -- Today is Setting Orange, the 17th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 A career is great, but you can't run your fingers through its hair. From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Tue Mar 31 13:42:08 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 06:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <666437442.32361238409240271.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <666437442.32361238409240271.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <205142.26141.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Samuele, ----- Original Message ---- > From: Samuele Storari > I can produce all the materials to fit the "Leonidas Lion Theme" in the > scheduling for the final release, so we can bring all inside, at least as an > alternative theme, I don't propose nothing for the landscape 'cause after a lot > of test I really don't like my works 'cause it was so difficult for me working > on that subject. > Maybe this week I will provide you all we need for the graphic's pack, if > someone want to collaborate with me please contact me. I would love to collaborate with you on this! Are there any brushes or images pending that are not licensed yet? I would be happy to try to find openly licensed ones or make replacements. I also think we can use the Greek pattern splash designs we came up with the lion, see [1,2]. What do you think about this idea? The sources for it should be in that directory. Is there anything else I can help with? ~m [1] http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-2.png [2] http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/splashmockup2.png From jayme at jaymeayres.com Tue Mar 31 13:57:26 2009 From: jayme at jaymeayres.com (Jayme Ayres) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:57:26 -0300 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <205142.26141.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <666437442.32361238409240271.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <205142.26141.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <64b33fc70903310657y1af5901cke6a381bdf86666aa@mail.gmail.com> Hi folks! Samuelle... maybe if you put that greek pattern desing proposed by Mairin at the top and bottom with a size compatible with the image and making the changes proposed by Martin Sourada (the circles, birds and etc.) this desing would be perfect. I believe that it will be even more stylish Greek. Congratulations on good work Samuele. Jayme Ayres 2009/3/31 M?ir?n Duffy > > Hi Samuele, > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Samuele Storari > > > I can produce all the materials to fit the "Leonidas Lion Theme" in the > > scheduling for the final release, so we can bring all inside, at least as > an > > alternative theme, I don't propose nothing for the landscape 'cause after > a lot > > of test I really don't like my works 'cause it was so difficult for me > working > > on that subject. > > Maybe this week I will provide you all we need for the graphic's pack, if > > someone want to collaborate with me please contact me. > > I would love to collaborate with you on this! > > Are there any brushes or images pending that are not licensed yet? I would > be happy to try to find openly licensed ones or make replacements. > > I also think we can use the Greek pattern splash designs we came up with > the lion, see [1,2]. What do you think about this idea? The sources for it > should be in that directory. > > Is there anything else I can help with? > > ~m > > [1] > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-2.png > > [2] http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/splashmockup2.png > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com www.projetofedora.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From luca at foppiano.org Tue Mar 31 13:54:05 2009 From: luca at foppiano.org (Luca Foppiano) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:54:05 +0200 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <1238487215.3718.42.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <583936.37662.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <440998.66240.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090327195250.GB6578@localhost.localdomain> <1238436339.3618.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1238487215.3718.42.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1238507645.3718.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 10:13 +0200, Luca Foppiano wrote: > > I'm trying to understand better his points because I think are a bit > restrictive. I'll let you know. Second reply from tom spot :) " [...] > uhm, I would like to better understand your points, are you sure this > policy is not a bit restrictive? > > I think the "selling point" on the licence is related to brushes, not to derived artworks. If you sell fedora, you don't sell the brushes, but a work made with it. The brushes are used in indirectly way. > > I think copying the full web page is intended to avoid stealing idea and web page, for example if I copy his webpage and I show as mine. > > What do you think? I think I didn't look closely enough. :) The link you sent me is to the Brush author's interpretations of how he/she thinks the license that they have chosen works. I mistook this for the actual license. The actual license that they are using for the brushes is Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 (which ironically, is what I suggested that you ask if we could use). This license is fine for Fedora. We do need to be sure that we give the original author of the brushes attribution credit. A text file which accompanies the art that gives credit to the brush author and a link to the brush website should be sufficient. Btw, the author really doesn't understand how the CC-BY license actually works. However, please don't correct their misunderstandings, because I suspect they would choose a different license that we would have problems using. :) [...] " Luca -- Today is Setting Orange, the 17th day of Discord in the YOLD 3175 The faster I go, the behinder I get. -- Lewis Carroll From fedora-art at brej.org Tue Mar 31 14:58:36 2009 From: fedora-art at brej.org (Charlie Brej) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:58:36 +0100 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <205142.26141.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <666437442.32361238409240271.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <205142.26141.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49D22F9C.2010606@brej.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi Samuele, > > > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Samuele Storari > >> I can produce all the materials to fit the "Leonidas Lion Theme" in the >> scheduling for the final release, so we can bring all inside, at least as an >> alternative theme, I don't propose nothing for the landscape 'cause after a lot >> of test I really don't like my works 'cause it was so difficult for me working >> on that subject. >> Maybe this week I will provide you all we need for the graphic's pack, if >> someone want to collaborate with me please contact me. > > I would love to collaborate with you on this! > > Are there any brushes or images pending that are not licensed yet? I would be happy to try to find openly licensed ones or make replacements. > > I also think we can use the Greek pattern splash designs we came up with the lion, see [1,2]. What do you think about this idea? The sources for it should be in that directory. > > Is there anything else I can help with? > > ~m I think the one major thing we need to do is to make it two desktop compatible. The problem is if we clip the top and bottom to make the dual wide version it chops the top and bottom of the lion. Also the lion's face occupies the entire left screen. I extended the image by resizing and reflecting the a couple layers [1] so it is 5120x1536. This should a reasonable point that we can generate all desired resolutions from. I'm just making a script which will automatically generate them all from the one image. For now I hid the circles as they want to be on the left edge and that varies by size. I can put them back using the script or we can remove them as people complain they get in the way of the icons. Still need to extend the lines in layers Like1 and Line2. and possibly add some more texture to the left screen. I'll have a look at using the image and adding the Greek style progress bar in plymouth. [1] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/King_5120x1536_def.xcf.bz2 preview: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/King_5120x1536_def.jpg From luya at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 31 18:12:10 2009 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:12:10 -0700 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <305812.1614.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49D0BF2C.2020100@brej.org> <200903301743.18977.jreznik@redhat.com> <305812.1614.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49D25CFA.50405@fedoraproject.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 M?ir?n Duffy a ?crit : | | I have to agree with this. | | Would anyone be especially opposed to going with Samuele's Lion idea, seeing that both Samuele and Charlie have committed to helping out with it? | | Also, some of our splash ideas (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png for example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion instead, so we would still be able to take advantage of that work. | | What do folks think? | | ~m Sorry for being late. I also like the lion theme combined with Greek pattern. I am wonder about media (CD/DVD) because detai;s might be costly to be printed. - -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Designer E: luya at fedoraproject.org W: http://thefinalzone.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknSXPgACgkQa10Jb0NOz+GGPgCfdW4oGq67ac9yCu0qADD5TAB6 xRwAnRoWRWXSaepFyQNuHkh++TL7TOTJ =Mewp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Tue Mar 31 18:16:11 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <49D25CFA.50405@fedoraproject.org> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49D0BF2C.2020100@brej.org> <200903301743.18977.jreznik@redhat.com> <305812.1614.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49D25CFA.50405@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <738618.29780.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Luya Tshimbalanga > To: Fedora Art List > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:12:10 PM > Subject: Re: New Concept for F11 King > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > M?ir?n Duffy a ?crit : > | > | I have to agree with this. > | > | Would anyone be especially opposed to going with Samuele's Lion idea, seeing > that both Samuele and Charlie have committed to helping out with it? > | > | Also, some of our splash ideas > (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png for > example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion instead, so we > would still be able to take advantage of that work. > | > | What do folks think? > | > | ~m > Sorry for being late. I also like the lion theme combined with Greek pattern. I > am wonder about media (CD/DVD) because detai;s > might be costly to be printed. I'm not too concerned about it. It would be easy enough to do a two-color version of the lion or even forgo the lion for the media and just use the Greek key pattern on the media artwork. `M From luya at fedoraproject.org Tue Mar 31 18:30:34 2009 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:30:34 -0700 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <738618.29780.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49D0BF2C.2020100@brej.org> <200903301743.18977.jreznik@redhat.com> <305812.1614.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49D25CFA.50405@fedoraproject.org> <738618.29780.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49D2614A.6030503@fedoraproject.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 M?ir?n Duffy a ?crit : | ----- Original Message ---- | |> From: Luya Tshimbalanga |> To: Fedora Art List |> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:12:10 PM |> Subject: Re: New Concept for F11 King |> |> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- |> Hash: SHA1 |> |> M?ir?n Duffy a ?crit : |> | |> | I have to agree with this. |> | |> | Would anyone be especially opposed to going with Samuele's Lion idea, seeing |> that both Samuele and Charlie have committed to helping out with it? |> | |> | Also, some of our splash ideas |> (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png for |> example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion instead, so we |> would still be able to take advantage of that work. |> | |> | What do folks think? |> | |> | ~m |> Sorry for being late. I also like the lion theme combined with Greek pattern. I |> am wonder about media (CD/DVD) because detai;s |> might be costly to be printed. | | I'm not too concerned about it. It would be easy enough to do a two-color version of the lion or even forgo the lion for the media and just use the Greek key pattern on the media artwork. | | `M | It comes to my mind to create a limited package version which special treatment (for example, bundled poster, detailed CD/DVD and embossed box) to display our artwork skill. It does not have to be produced that much (let say five). Perhaps we should make some kind of contest. What do you think? - -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Designer P: (604) 682-6618 E: luya at fedoraproject.org W: http://thefinalzone.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknSYUgACgkQa10Jb0NOz+HanQCgkVJwOfjOrkG/4CKUcnoDu6Zu PFwAn31qEuKtM8wVjKQVOnKvviCjBic0 =v1YJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Tue Mar 31 18:36:35 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <49D2614A.6030503@fedoraproject.org> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49D0BF2C.2020100@brej.org> <200903301743.18977.jreznik@redhat.com> <305812.1614.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49D25CFA.50405@fedoraproject.org> <738618.29780.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49D2614A.6030503@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <225748.50150.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Luya Tshimbalanga > |> M?ir?n Duffy a ?crit : > | I'm not too concerned about it. It would be easy enough to do a two-color > version of the lion or even forgo the lion for the media and just use the Greek > key pattern on the media artwork. > | > | `M > | > It comes to my mind to create a limited package version which special treatment > (for example, bundled poster, detailed CD/DVD and embossed box) to display our > artwork skill. It does not have to be produced that much (let say five). Perhaps > we should make some kind of contest. What do you think? Printing anything in small batches tends to be prohibitively expensive, unfortunately. ~m From dilophodd at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 18:45:20 2009 From: dilophodd at gmail.com (Thomas Kole) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:45:20 +0200 Subject: F11 wood wallpaper In-Reply-To: <225748.50150.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49D0BF2C.2020100@brej.org> <200903301743.18977.jreznik@redhat.com> <305812.1614.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49D25CFA.50405@fedoraproject.org> <738618.29780.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49D2614A.6030503@fedoraproject.org> <225748.50150.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49D264C0.3030503@gmail.com> No comments about mine? =( (http://dilopho-dd.deviantart.com/art/Fedora-wood-wallpaper-v2-116975355) From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Tue Mar 31 19:09:44 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:09:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: F11 wood wallpaper In-Reply-To: <49D264C0.3030503@gmail.com> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49D0BF2C.2020100@brej.org> <200903301743.18977.jreznik@redhat.com> <305812.1614.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49D25CFA.50405@fedoraproject.org> <738618.29780.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49D2614A.6030503@fedoraproject.org> <225748.50150.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49D264C0.3030503@gmail.com> Message-ID: <541425.15704.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Thomas, ----- Original Message ---- > From: Thomas Kole > To: Fedora Art List > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 2:45:20 PM > Subject: F11 wood wallpaper > > No comments about mine? =( > (http://dilopho-dd.deviantart.com/art/Fedora-wood-wallpaper-v2-116975355) We are looking for artwork that relates to Fedora 11's codename, Leonidas. A lion being a king (as Leonidas was) or images depicting Greek scenery fit in with the release codename. I'm not sure how wood fits in, but maybe you have an idea? Other than that we have an explicit policy to not ship wallpapers with the Fedora logo in them. This not only makes our wallpapers more generally useful, but also lessens the complications for folks who repackage Fedora under a different name (eg unofficial spins). I think, personally, the wallpaper would look a lot nicer without the Fedora logo. It looks like something I might like to use as my own wallpaper, actually, if it didn't have the logo superimposed on it. :) I like how the wood gives the wallpaper a natural feel and how the lighting suggests a stage. Did you use a texture/pattern to create it? ~m From fedora-art at brej.org Tue Mar 31 22:01:40 2009 From: fedora-art at brej.org (Charlie Brej) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:01:40 +0100 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <305812.1614.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49D0BF2C.2020100@brej.org> <200903301743.18977.jreznik@redhat.com> <305812.1614.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49D292C4.2050903@brej.org> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Also, some of our splash ideas (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png for example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion instead, so we would still be able to take advantage of that work. I made a couple plymouth options that combine the greek pattern with the theme. There are 4 levels of complexity. Which one do people think is best? http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion3.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion4.jpg From hydra84 at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 22:07:42 2009 From: hydra84 at gmail.com (Paolo Leoni) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 00:07:42 +0200 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <49D292C4.2050903@brej.org> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49D0BF2C.2020100@brej.org> <200903301743.18977.jreznik@redhat.com> <305812.1614.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49D292C4.2050903@brej.org> Message-ID: <1799f9cf0903311507v435a039etd84d78c4af0848a7@mail.gmail.com> I like very much "lion" and "lion3"...great work! 2009/4/1 Charlie Brej > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> Also, some of our splash ideas ( >> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.pngfor example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion >> instead, so we would still be able to take advantage of that work. >> > > I made a couple plymouth options that combine the greek pattern with the > theme. There are 4 levels of complexity. Which one do people think is best? > > http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion.jpg > http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpg > http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion3.jpg > http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion4.jpg > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From mspevack at redhat.com Tue Mar 31 22:22:24 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 00:22:24 +0200 (CEST) Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <49D292C4.2050903@brej.org> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49D0BF2C.2020100@brej.org> <200903301743.18977.jreznik@redhat.com> <305812.1614.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49D292C4.2050903@brej.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Charlie Brej wrote: > theme. There are 4 levels of complexity. Which one do people think is > best? > > http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpg this one is my favorite. All nice, nice work. Color me impressed. --Max <3 fedora-art-team From martin.sourada at gmail.com Tue Mar 31 22:22:16 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 00:22:16 +0200 Subject: New Concept for F11 King In-Reply-To: <49D292C4.2050903@brej.org> References: <1651417172.30291238153553858.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> <49D0BF2C.2020100@brej.org> <200903301743.18977.jreznik@redhat.com> <305812.1614.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49D292C4.2050903@brej.org> Message-ID: <1238538136.6812.6.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 23:01 +0100, Charlie Brej wrote: > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Also, some of our splash ideas (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4.png for example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion instead, so we would still be able to take advantage of that work. > > I made a couple plymouth options that combine the greek pattern with the theme. > There are 4 levels of complexity. Which one do people think is best? > > http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion.jpg > http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpg > http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion3.jpg > http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion4.jpg > I think the lion and lion2 are too much complex. For me the lion4 is best, but I think you should change the progress-bars colours to better fit with the colour palette of the image. Also, maybe, only the bottom progress-bar would suffice (not sure though). I also think that the fedora logo should not be precisely in the center of the screen, maybe using gold-ratio to position it in horizontal direction would work. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Which one do people think is best? > > http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion.jpg > http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpg > http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion3.jpg > http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion4.jpg > if the bars with the greek pattern stay were they are I prefer lion3, but I believe something like that [1] with one bar under fedora (and both centered nicely) with the background of lion4 could work too (with the edges blurred a bit to fit better to the background) [1] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/plymouth_leo2.swf > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Konstantinos Antonakoglou PGP key: 0xC9E2E16B constanton @ Freenode -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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