From hydra84 at gmail.com Fri May 1 09:02:30 2009 From: hydra84 at gmail.com (Paolo Leoni) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:02:30 +0200 Subject: Fedora release banners Message-ID: <1799f9cf0905010202t61f8f3f5j10fc87aea9b00ad@mail.gmail.com> Hi there, we're approaching to another, great, fedora release. So, it's time to get some banners ;-) Below you can find two possible release banners (small): https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/b7/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1.png https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/f/ff/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1.svg https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/4/42/Fedora11-released-banner-small_2.png https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/9/96/Fedora11-released-banner-small_2.svg -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hydra84 at gmail.com Fri May 1 09:31:10 2009 From: hydra84 at gmail.com (Paolo Leoni) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:31:10 +0200 Subject: Fedora 11 countdown banner (artwork team release) In-Reply-To: <20090428171153.GM28424@sphe.res.cmu.edu> References: <1799f9cf0904031037p3d753c71o28831743d426daab@mail.gmail.com> <49D9B54C.2050709@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0904060513x4cd96d9bhfa31c4b1965011d5@mail.gmail.com> <49DA1ED8.5010304@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0904071011o1ee410a9ya8791dc4d94518ad@mail.gmail.com> <49DC5111.6000108@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0904090157n68ac03d6kdeeb19ec2f3fbf8c@mail.gmail.com> <20090427234932.GI28424@sphe.res.cmu.edu> <1799f9cf0904280908wde2723j8b6b4003efa3cfe1@mail.gmail.com> <20090428171153.GM28424@sphe.res.cmu.edu> Message-ID: <1799f9cf0905010231o2b521324gd807eba8efb600b5@mail.gmail.com> Hi Ricky, I've received and pre-rendered F11 countdown banners for other two translations: Hungarian: http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-countdown-banner_hu.tar.gz Icelandic: http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-countdown-banner_is.tar.gz 2009/4/28 Ricky Zhou > On 2009-04-28 06:08:03 PM, Paolo Leoni wrote: > > I've uploaded the corrected version of countdown banner in both version > > (english and italian). > Thanks a lot, I just pushed the updated images. Also, I asked the > translation teams to send translated SVGs to you to be generated (they > should send two SVGs, 1 for the singular, and one for the plural). > > Thanks for doing the banners, > Ricky > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rstrode at redhat.com Fri May 1 15:58:48 2009 From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Plymouth plugin? In-Reply-To: <20090430160259.GA3111@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <408395448.182681241193528288.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> Hey Paul, > Was there a Plymouth plugin being created or reviewed for F11? I seem > to recall Charlie producing something but wasn't sure abou the > status. Can anyone clue me in? Charlie's plugins were a good start but weren't finished. There was also an unfinished glow plugin. I've been working on coming up with something the last couple of days, but it may be too late for F11 at this point, so we may end up with spinfinity. We'll have to see how it goes down. --Ray From stickster at gmail.com Fri May 1 19:43:17 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 15:43:17 -0400 Subject: Plymouth plugin? In-Reply-To: <408395448.182681241193528288.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> References: <20090430160259.GA3111@localhost.localdomain> <408395448.182681241193528288.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> Message-ID: <20090501194317.GX6034@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 11:58:48AM -0400, Ray Strode wrote: > Hey Paul, > > > Was there a Plymouth plugin being created or reviewed for F11? I seem > > to recall Charlie producing something but wasn't sure abou the > > status. Can anyone clue me in? > > Charlie's plugins were a good start but weren't finished. There was > also an unfinished glow plugin. > > I've been working on coming up with something the last couple of > days, but it may be too late for F11 at this point, so we may end up > with spinfinity. > > We'll have to see how it goes down. Is there somewhere people could see what you've done thus far, and/or help? I think it would be a shame not to have something thematic during boot time, although it's certainly not a catastrophe. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From mspevack at redhat.com Sat May 2 12:40:24 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 14:40:24 +0200 (CEST) Subject: libre graphics meeting Message-ID: http://www.libregraphicsmeeting.org/2009/ Is anyone from the Fedora community attending this? --Max From mspevack at redhat.com Sat May 2 16:33:25 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 18:33:25 +0200 (CEST) Subject: FUDCon Berlin T-shirts Message-ID: Hi all, I wanted to take a moment to ping about the FUDCon Berlin tshirt designs, which should be very easy given that we're simply adopting the FUDCon Boston design, with the following changes: s/Boston/Berlin As for the words in the tag cloud, we can keep the "generic" ones related to Fedora, and we should remove the Boston/Massachusettes/MIT words and replace them with some related to this FUDCon: Berlin LinuxTag Marshall Haus Messe Berlin Europe Germany Reichstag Brandenburg Gate Alexanderplatz Gendarmenmarkt Potsdamer Platz Charlottenburg Funkturm En Passant I wonder if that's enough of a list to make the tag cloud look good. Anyone care to mockup the shirt? I'd like to start production end of next week if possible. Thanks, Max From luya at fedoraproject.org Sat May 2 18:59:34 2009 From: luya at fedoraproject.org (Luya Tshimbalanga) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 11:59:34 -0700 Subject: libre graphics meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49FC9816.6000105@fedoraproject.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Le 2009-05-02 05:40, Max Spevack a ?crit : > http://www.libregraphicsmeeting.org/2009/ > > Is anyone from the Fedora community attending this? > > --Max > I would love to but my schedule is full for the week. =( - -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Designer E: luya at fedoraproject.org W: http://thefinalzone.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkn8mBQACgkQa10Jb0NOz+FfEACfbrBKz5XRzREM5pcQLrATK7T/ MGsAn2sBLHO+u7CZjorpCfx2KiHAjwde =yPLF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mspevack at redhat.com Sun May 3 06:27:32 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 08:27:32 +0200 (CEST) Subject: FUDCon Berlin T-shirts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 2 May 2009, Max Spevack wrote: > As for the words in the tag cloud, we can keep the "generic" ones > related to Fedora, and we should remove the Boston/Massachusettes/MIT > words and replace them with some related to this FUDCon: A great mockup was posted here: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/fudcon_berlin.png My only comment on that would be that we'd like to make "Marshall Haus" one string, and not two. Aside from that, I'm going to try to find some more words that we can add to the tag cloud to increase the variety. Awesome stuff, and thanks! --Max From fedora-art at brej.org Sun May 3 10:25:22 2009 From: fedora-art at brej.org (Charlie Brej) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 11:25:22 +0100 Subject: FUDCon Berlin T-shirts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49FD7112.3090601@brej.org> Max Spevack wrote: > On Sat, 2 May 2009, Max Spevack wrote: > >> As for the words in the tag cloud, we can keep the "generic" ones >> related to Fedora, and we should remove the Boston/Massachusettes/MIT >> words and replace them with some related to this FUDCon: > > A great mockup was posted here: > > http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/fudcon_berlin.png > > My only comment on that would be that we'd like to make "Marshall Haus" > one string, and not two. > > Aside from that, I'm going to try to find some more words that we can > add to the tag cloud to increase the variety. > > Awesome stuff, and thanks! The program is available [1] and is easy to modify. There is a script, called "fudcon_logo_script", which you can modify to change the words. With multiple word blocks put speech marks around them (just like I forgot to). You will also need cairo/pango/glib2-devel and mgopen-fonts if you dont have them already, and inkscape to touch up the images as sometimes the large words overlap some small neighbours. Running the script can take a few minutes depending on your machine. M?ir?n may have changed some code for the last fudcon one so if you want them to match exactly then see if she has a patch. I think the size of the minimal font was changed although I cant remember now. [1] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/wordlogo.tar.gz From mspevack at redhat.com Sun May 3 14:25:31 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 16:25:31 +0200 (CEST) Subject: FUDCon Berlin T-shirts In-Reply-To: <49FD7112.3090601@brej.org> References: <49FD7112.3090601@brej.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 3 May 2009, Charlie Brej wrote: > The program is available [1] and is easy to modify. There is a script, > called "fudcon_logo_script", which you can modify to change the words. > With multiple word blocks put speech marks around them (just like I > forgot to). You will also need cairo/pango/glib2-devel and > mgopen-fonts if you dont have them already, and inkscape to touch up > the images as sometimes the large words overlap some small neighbours. > Running the script can take a few minutes depending on your machine. > M?ir?n may have changed some code for the last fudcon one so if you > want them to match exactly then see if she has a patch. I think the > size of the minimal font was changed although I cant remember now. > > [1] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/wordlogo.tar.gz Brilliant, thanks for the info. Mo, did you patch the code at all? If so, I'll be happy to incorporate your patch and put it into Fedora Hosted (if that's okay with you, Charlie), as well as generating what we need for the Berlin shirt. --Max From hydra84 at gmail.com Mon May 4 00:54:16 2009 From: hydra84 at gmail.com (Paolo Leoni) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 02:54:16 +0200 Subject: Fedora 11 countdown banner (artwork team release) In-Reply-To: <1799f9cf0905010231o2b521324gd807eba8efb600b5@mail.gmail.com> References: <1799f9cf0904031037p3d753c71o28831743d426daab@mail.gmail.com> <1799f9cf0904060513x4cd96d9bhfa31c4b1965011d5@mail.gmail.com> <49DA1ED8.5010304@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0904071011o1ee410a9ya8791dc4d94518ad@mail.gmail.com> <49DC5111.6000108@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0904090157n68ac03d6kdeeb19ec2f3fbf8c@mail.gmail.com> <20090427234932.GI28424@sphe.res.cmu.edu> <1799f9cf0904280908wde2723j8b6b4003efa3cfe1@mail.gmail.com> <20090428171153.GM28424@sphe.res.cmu.edu> <1799f9cf0905010231o2b521324gd807eba8efb600b5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1799f9cf0905031754p3c88d29ch2529fece9808a34f@mail.gmail.com> Hi there, yes...I've another translation for the countdown banner... ;-) Now it's time for the German translation. Ricky, you can find the package at this url: http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-countdown-banner_de.tar.gz Thanks to Robert Scheck for the translation instructions. -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon May 4 07:35:50 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 10:35:50 +0300 Subject: Fedora release banners In-Reply-To: <1799f9cf0905010202t61f8f3f5j10fc87aea9b00ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <1799f9cf0905010202t61f8f3f5j10fc87aea9b00ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49FE9AD6.7030207@nicubunu.ro> On 05/01/2009 12:02 PM, Paolo Leoni wrote: > Hi there, > we're approaching to another, great, fedora release. > So, it's time to get some banners ;-) The basic layout is good (maybe the placement ans size of the logo could be better) but I think it would be an interesting idea to change the wording somehow so it includes the F11 slogan ("Reign"). > Below you can find two possible release banners (small): > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/b7/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1.png > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/f/ff/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1.svg > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/4/42/Fedora11-released-banner-small_2.png > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/9/96/Fedora11-released-banner-small_2.svg -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From tatica at fedoraproject.org Mon May 4 15:40:47 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 11:10:47 +1930 Subject: Banner ideas Message-ID: <27a6293b0905040840y638f6573g929a47f2e756f7ac@mail.gmail.com> Hello all. I was working on some ideas for a banner that we want to use on fisl 9.0 ( FUDcon Latam ) but I know that I have some mistakes with the logo guidance and the tm background. But I think is a cool idea :) Some brainstorm? NOTE: The banner is on spanish and has the proyectofedora url (Latam website) png http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3a.png source svg: (please use mgopen fonts) http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3a.svg bye bye! -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon May 4 16:02:50 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 19:02:50 +0300 Subject: Banner ideas In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0905040840y638f6573g929a47f2e756f7ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0905040840y638f6573g929a47f2e756f7ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49FF11AA.2020903@nicubunu.ro> On 05/04/2009 06:40 PM, Mar?a Leandro wrote: > Hello all. Hi, > I was working on some ideas for a banner that we want to use on fisl > 9.0 ( FUDcon Latam ) but I know that I have some mistakes with the > logo guidance and the tm background. But I think is a cool idea :) It is a banner? Seeing the image size I thought it is a poster... > Some brainstorm? > > NOTE: The banner is on spanish and has the proyectofedora url (Latam website) But you keep them as text, so is easy to translate, good thing. For bonus points (easier translation), you can also align the text to the center, so even a monkey can translate :D > png > http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3a.png > > source svg: (please use mgopen fonts) > http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3a.svg Ket me start by saying I *love* the concept, I find the four bubbles (4 F) at a certain perspective just awesome. There are still a few problems: - the white band around the logo is a breakage logo usage guidelines, which is a shame, as this way it fir the 4 elements below; - the TM near the logo is badly placed; - the bold variant of the MgOpen Modata used for the URL at the bottom is not that pleasant, it would be better (IMO) with thicker letters; - I would like the design just a bit less centered. Here is my remix based on your graphics: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/pendon3b.png http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/pendon3b.svg Note: I know it can be improved further, the top-right corner has to much empty space. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From bm90fox at gmail.com Mon May 4 17:01:55 2009 From: bm90fox at gmail.com (MANNY HIDALBEMA) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 12:01:55 -0500 Subject: Banner ideas In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0905040840y638f6573g929a47f2e756f7ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0905040840y638f6573g929a47f2e756f7ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2a38ae9e0905041001w5b3c2699k6c8808f18507cce@mail.gmail.com> Hey body, excellent idea... I has saved it into my images... It's very usefull for meetings and presentations Manny -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Frields) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 13:09:51 -0400 Subject: Banner ideas In-Reply-To: <49FF11AA.2020903@nicubunu.ro> References: <27a6293b0905040840y638f6573g929a47f2e756f7ac@mail.gmail.com> <49FF11AA.2020903@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <20090504170951.GG3437@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 07:02:50PM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 05/04/2009 06:40 PM, Mar?a Leandro wrote: >> Hello all. > > Hi, > >> I was working on some ideas for a banner that we want to use on fisl >> 9.0 ( FUDcon Latam ) but I know that I have some mistakes with the >> logo guidance and the tm background. But I think is a cool idea :) > > It is a banner? Seeing the image size I thought it is a poster... > >> Some brainstorm? >> >> NOTE: The banner is on spanish and has the proyectofedora url (Latam website) > > But you keep them as text, so is easy to translate, good thing. For bonus > points (easier translation), you can also align the text to the center, so > even a monkey can translate :D > >> png >> http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3a.png >> >> source svg: (please use mgopen fonts) >> http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3a.svg > > Ket me start by saying I *love* the concept, I find the four bubbles (4 > F) at a certain perspective just awesome. There are still a few problems: > - the white band around the logo is a breakage logo usage guidelines, > which is a shame, as this way it fir the 4 elements below; > - the TM near the logo is badly placed; > - the bold variant of the MgOpen Modata used for the URL at the bottom is > not that pleasant, it would be better (IMO) with thicker letters; > - I would like the design just a bit less centered. > > Here is my remix based on your graphics: > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/pendon3b.png > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/pendon3b.svg > > Note: I know it can be improved further, the top-right corner has to much > empty space. Are the four "leaves" of the 4-Foundations clover meant to be aligned? Maybe it's just an optical illusion or my bad eyesight, but they look a little out of alignment to me. Other than that, and Nicu's corrections to the logo presentation, this is REALLY cool. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From martin.sourada at gmail.com Mon May 4 17:43:01 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 19:43:01 +0200 Subject: Banner ideas In-Reply-To: <20090504170951.GG3437@localhost.localdomain> References: <27a6293b0905040840y638f6573g929a47f2e756f7ac@mail.gmail.com> <49FF11AA.2020903@nicubunu.ro> <20090504170951.GG3437@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1241458981.4257.32.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 13:09 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Are the four "leaves" of the 4-Foundations clover meant to be aligned? > Maybe it's just an optical illusion or my bad eyesight, but they look > a little out of alignment to me. Other than that, and Nicu's The 'friends' one seems to be a little to close than I would expect it, but it might be just an optical illusion caused by the perspective used. > corrections to the logo presentation, this is REALLY cool. > Yup, I also tend to prefer Nicu's version, however, there seems to be something funky going on with the font border - there seem to be spikes and holes... Looks like this particular font needs different stroke settings (probably rounded corners and endings would be best). Also I find the fedora logo too big. So I've poked a little with it as well: http://mso.fedorapeople.org/designs/pendon3c.png http://mso.fedorapeople.org/designs/pendon3c.svg Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jayme at jaymeayres.com Mon May 4 18:28:52 2009 From: jayme at jaymeayres.com (Jayme Ayres) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:28:52 -0300 Subject: Banner ideas In-Reply-To: <1241458981.4257.32.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> References: <27a6293b0905040840y638f6573g929a47f2e756f7ac@mail.gmail.com> <49FF11AA.2020903@nicubunu.ro> <20090504170951.GG3437@localhost.localdomain> <1241458981.4257.32.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <64b33fc70905041128s4347733em91566051abaabcd9@mail.gmail.com> As we have several spaces in the event, Maria Leandro and I are thinking of doing some different gear, my idea is that http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/fisl10/banner.png It is difficult to work with the 4 f's because both in Portuguese and in Spanish the words do not begin with the letter F, so my idea is to relieve the original idea. Tatica has done a beautiful art with the leaves and I think we can use the two gears to put the events where Fedora will be present. J 2009/5/4 Martin Sourada > On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 13:09 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > Are the four "leaves" of the 4-Foundations clover meant to be aligned? > > Maybe it's just an optical illusion or my bad eyesight, but they look > > a little out of alignment to me. Other than that, and Nicu's > The 'friends' one seems to be a little to close than I would expect it, > but it might be just an optical illusion caused by the perspective used. > > > corrections to the logo presentation, this is REALLY cool. > > > Yup, I also tend to prefer Nicu's version, however, there seems to be > something funky going on with the font border - there seem to be spikes > and holes... Looks like this particular font needs different stroke > settings (probably rounded corners and endings would be best). > > Also I find the fedora logo too big. So I've poked a little with it as > well: > > http://mso.fedorapeople.org/designs/pendon3c.png > http://mso.fedorapeople.org/designs/pendon3c.svg > > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com www.projetofedora.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tatica at fedoraproject.org Mon May 4 18:35:32 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 14:05:32 +1930 Subject: Fedora T-shirt In-Reply-To: <1241461173.13975.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1241461173.13975.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <27a6293b0905041135p1c3969dal545f0de7c4f94d88@mail.gmail.com> I really like the white and white+blue lion... think is more stunning 2009/5/5 Mola pahnadayan : > Hi all :) > i make some T-shirt with inkscape. > > Blue: > > T-Shirt_lion_010.png > T-Shirt_lion_010.svg > > White: > > T-Shirt_lion_011.png > T-Shirt_lion_011.svg > > White & Blue: > > T-Shirt_lion_012.png > T-Shirt_lion_012.svg > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Mon May 4 19:42:58 2009 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 21:42:58 +0200 Subject: Usb live creator refresh? Message-ID: <64b14b300905041242o1422c1edw9c7274a74a23c6a6@mail.gmail.com> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/LiveUsbCreator Hi, I would love to see LiveUsbCreator artwork refresed for Fedora 11 because it was a great hit for Fedora 9 when I did Fedora talks + demonstrations on few gigs. Thank you in advance. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From stickster at gmail.com Mon May 4 19:17:12 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:17:12 -0400 Subject: Banner ideas In-Reply-To: <64b33fc70905041128s4347733em91566051abaabcd9@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0905040840y638f6573g929a47f2e756f7ac@mail.gmail.com> <49FF11AA.2020903@nicubunu.ro> <20090504170951.GG3437@localhost.localdomain> <1241458981.4257.32.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <64b33fc70905041128s4347733em91566051abaabcd9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090504191712.GB3448@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 03:28:52PM -0300, Jayme Ayres wrote: > As we have several spaces in the event, Maria Leandro and I are thinking of > doing some different gear, my idea is that http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/ > fedora/fisl10/banner.png > > It is difficult to work with the 4 f's because both in Portuguese and in > Spanish the words do not begin with the letter F, so my idea is to relieve the > original idea. Tatica has done a beautiful art with the leaves and I think we > can use the two gears to put the events where Fedora will be present. That's one of the main reasons why we don't call them 4 F's, but rather "4 Foundations." The foundations are core values, not marketing slogans. I wrote up a page to explain them here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Foundations Obviously we knew that translations would change these foundations so they wouldn't be alliterated. That's OK -- it's the *value* that's important, not the word itself. As long as a translation is matching the value of the foundation itself, it's a good choice. The icons help to make this distinction as well -- they make a link between the idea behind the word, and the words used in every other language. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Mon May 4 20:14:33 2009 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:14:33 +0200 Subject: artwork pages name mismatch Message-ID: <64b14b300905041314t5fb830b9q74e44c6071105c2a@mail.gmail.com> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11 Also can you please tell me how to navigate from main Fedora Artwork page to Fedora Themes (current theme, past themes and future themes)? I don't see any links that lead from main Fedora Artwork page to themes pages... is that on purpose? Why? Cheers. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From martin.sourada at gmail.com Mon May 4 20:21:55 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 22:21:55 +0200 Subject: artwork pages name mismatch In-Reply-To: <64b14b300905041314t5fb830b9q74e44c6071105c2a@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300905041314t5fb830b9q74e44c6071105c2a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1241468515.4257.37.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 22:14 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11 > > Also can you please tell me how to navigate from main Fedora Artwork > page to Fedora Themes (current theme, past themes and future themes)? > > I don't see any links that lead from main Fedora Artwork page to > themes pages... is that on purpose? Why? Not sure if it's on purpose or not, but it's probably not a good idea to keep links from our main page to everywhere... You can navigate to all Artwork pages from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Artwork If not, than that is definitely a not on purpose and should be fixed. > > Cheers. > Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Why? > Not sure if it's on purpose or not, but it's probably not a good idea to > keep links from our main page to everywhere... You can navigate to all > Artwork pages from > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Artwork > > If not, than that is definitely a not on purpose and should be fixed. I understand and agree that links should not be used carelessly and put all over the main page. But there are lots of links, and most are uninteresting for people not directly involved in artwork team. Non artwork people like me this is ok, but I still expected a link for the final artwork on main artwork page. 1. I want to show people or I want to see current and previous Fedora artwork. 2. I go to www.fedoraproject.org 3. click to go to wiki pages 4. click on artwork 5. look around 6. can't find any actual artwork I guess that other people will also expect to see some fedora artwork (or at least links to fedora artworks) and not only artwork team pages. The page name is "Artwork" so am I wrong to expect some artwork here? ;) -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From stickster at gmail.com Mon May 4 22:01:43 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:01:43 -0400 Subject: artwork pages name mismatch In-Reply-To: <64b14b300905041353v59dfcecfnba254622ddd05ed@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300905041314t5fb830b9q74e44c6071105c2a@mail.gmail.com> <1241468515.4257.37.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <64b14b300905041353v59dfcecfnba254622ddd05ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090504220143.GL3448@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 10:53:06PM +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote: > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Martin Sourada > wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 22:14 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote: > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F9Themes > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F10Themes > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11 > >> > >> Also can you please tell me how to navigate from main Fedora Artwork > >> page to Fedora Themes (current theme, past themes and future themes)? > >> > >> I don't see any links that lead from main Fedora Artwork page to > >> themes pages... is that on purpose? Why? > > Not sure if it's on purpose or not, but it's probably not a good idea to > > keep links from our main page to everywhere... You can navigate to all > > Artwork pages from > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Artwork > > > > If not, than that is definitely a not on purpose and should be fixed. > > I understand and agree that links should not be used carelessly and > put all over the main page. But there are lots of links, and most are > uninteresting for people not directly involved in artwork team. Non > artwork people like me this is ok, but I still expected a link for the > final artwork on main artwork page. > > 1. I want to show people or I want to see current and previous Fedora artwork. > 2. I go to www.fedoraproject.org > 3. click to go to wiki pages > 4. click on artwork > 5. look around > 6. can't find any actual artwork > > I guess that other people will also expect to see some fedora artwork > (or at least links to fedora artworks) and not only artwork team > pages. The page name is "Artwork" so am I wrong to expect some artwork > here? ;) Valent, The wiki is editable by anyone -- so this would be an opportunity for *you* to help by proposing and then making changes on the wiki. That's a model for wiki page improvement that has worked very well in the recent case of the Fedora QA team. A volunteer made changes into a private space under his User: page on the wiki, got people to speak up with votes of approval, and then he made those changes into the "official" QA section of the wiki. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From bm90fox at gmail.com Tue May 5 03:15:41 2009 From: bm90fox at gmail.com (MANNY HIDALBEMA) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 22:15:41 -0500 Subject: Fedora T-shirt In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0905041135p1c3969dal545f0de7c4f94d88@mail.gmail.com> References: <1241461173.13975.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <27a6293b0905041135p1c3969dal545f0de7c4f94d88@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2a38ae9e0905042015qd961c66qb8b32f4db1d022e0@mail.gmail.com> Simplemente espectaculares, pero como consigo, al menos una???? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue May 5 05:51:33 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 08:51:33 +0300 Subject: Banner ideas In-Reply-To: <1241458981.4257.32.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> References: <27a6293b0905040840y638f6573g929a47f2e756f7ac@mail.gmail.com> <49FF11AA.2020903@nicubunu.ro> <20090504170951.GG3437@localhost.localdomain> <1241458981.4257.32.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <49FFD3E5.6080504@nicubunu.ro> On 05/04/2009 08:43 PM, Martin Sourada wrote: > Yup, I also tend to prefer Nicu's version, however, there seems to be > something funky going on with the font border - there seem to be spikes > and holes... Looks like this particular font needs different stroke > settings (probably rounded corners and endings would be best). My bad! I was in a rush and didn't look closely... > Also I find the fedora logo too big. So I've poked a little with it as > well: > > http://mso.fedorapeople.org/designs/pendon3c.png > http://mso.fedorapeople.org/designs/pendon3c.svg Isn't this design ping-pong really fun? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue May 5 06:06:57 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 09:06:57 +0300 Subject: Banner ideas In-Reply-To: <64b33fc70905041128s4347733em91566051abaabcd9@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0905040840y638f6573g929a47f2e756f7ac@mail.gmail.com> <49FF11AA.2020903@nicubunu.ro> <20090504170951.GG3437@localhost.localdomain> <1241458981.4257.32.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <64b33fc70905041128s4347733em91566051abaabcd9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49FFD781.7090700@nicubunu.ro> On 05/04/2009 09:28 PM, Jayme Ayres wrote: > As we have several spaces in the event, Maria Leandro and I are thinking > of doing some different gear, my idea is that > http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/fisl10/banner.png That's cool too! It looks like you will have a lot of eye candy and make me feel bad for being lazy and not implementing a few ideas buried deep in a corner of my head... As a minor observation, you forgot one TM near the bubble logo - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#Vertical_Version_of_the_Logo I see your reasoning for reversing the order of the 4 foundations: Freedom is at the bottom to be the largest, but I am not sure about this: we still read from top to bottom... I am also not sure about translation, you have "inova??o" (innovation) instead of "first", isn't this a bit to far from the original? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue May 5 06:13:17 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 09:13:17 +0300 Subject: Fedora T-shirt In-Reply-To: <1241461173.13975.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1241461173.13975.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <49FFD8FD.1060602@nicubunu.ro> On 05/04/2009 09:19 PM, Mola pahnadayan wrote: > Hi all :) > i make some T-shirt with inkscape. There is hard to choose one, all are great... but I think I like a bit more the blue version. Maybe with the URL on the back side a little smaller. Speaking of URLs, is not a bit too overloaded to have the address on the back side and *both* sleeves? I think a single one, not 3, is enough. Also, probably the "http://" part on the back side can be dropped, everyone will figure is a website seeing the "www." -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue May 5 06:15:46 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 09:15:46 +0300 Subject: Fedora T-shirt In-Reply-To: <2a38ae9e0905042022g6bd3578ag69b84c33aa52bfd6@mail.gmail.com> References: <1241461173.13975.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <27a6293b0905041135p1c3969dal545f0de7c4f94d88@mail.gmail.com> <2a38ae9e0905042015qd961c66qb8b32f4db1d022e0@mail.gmail.com> <2a38ae9e0905042022g6bd3578ag69b84c33aa52bfd6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49FFD992.2030300@nicubunu.ro> On 05/05/2009 06:22 AM, MANNY HIDALBEMA wrote: > Me quedo con la 010.... How can I obtain one of it.... Unfortunately we don't have the means to produce and ship such things... your best chance is to get the design (SVG or a PNG at whatever resolution) and print it at a local shop (I am also frustrated about the difficulty or printing cool stuff locally at acceptable quality and price). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From giallu at gmail.com Tue May 5 07:25:26 2009 From: giallu at gmail.com (Gianluca Sforna) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:25:26 +0200 Subject: Fedora T-shirt In-Reply-To: <49FFD8FD.1060602@nicubunu.ro> References: <1241461173.13975.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49FFD8FD.1060602@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Also, > probably the "http://" part on the back side can be dropped, everyone will > figure is a website seeing the "www." > I think the "official" address we want to spread is "http://fedoraproject.org", that is, no www at all -- Gianluca Sforna http://morefedora.blogspot.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/gianlucasforna From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue May 5 07:55:20 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 10:55:20 +0300 Subject: Fedora T-shirt In-Reply-To: References: <1241461173.13975.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49FFD8FD.1060602@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <49FFF0E8.10903@nicubunu.ro> On 05/05/2009 10:25 AM, Gianluca Sforna wrote: > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> Also, >> probably the "http://" part on the back side can be dropped, everyone will >> figure is a website seeing the "www." >> > I think the "official" address we want to spread is > "http://fedoraproject.org", that is, no www at all This is a question I am also interested in, I am a hater of the "www." part to the point where for my own websites www. is pointed to redirect to the simple domain name. Bot OTOH, "http://" may be seen a bit to geeky. May the ".org" at the end be enough to signal a website address? So what's the "official" URL? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue May 5 09:38:37 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 12:38:37 +0300 Subject: Banner ideas In-Reply-To: <49FFD781.7090700@nicubunu.ro> References: <27a6293b0905040840y638f6573g929a47f2e756f7ac@mail.gmail.com> <49FF11AA.2020903@nicubunu.ro> <20090504170951.GG3437@localhost.localdomain> <1241458981.4257.32.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <64b33fc70905041128s4347733em91566051abaabcd9@mail.gmail.com> <49FFD781.7090700@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <4A00091D.50705@nicubunu.ro> On 05/05/2009 09:06 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > That's cool too! It looks like you will have a lot of eye candy and make > me feel bad for being lazy and not implementing a few ideas buried deep > in a corner of my head... This is one of those concepts (with a lot of room left for improvement): http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/funny/iwantyou.png http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/artwork/funny/iwantyou.svg -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From marcferguson at gmail.com Tue May 5 10:47:05 2009 From: marcferguson at gmail.com (Marc Ferguson) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 06:47:05 -0400 Subject: Fedora release banners In-Reply-To: <49FE9AD6.7030207@nicubunu.ro> References: <1799f9cf0905010202t61f8f3f5j10fc87aea9b00ad@mail.gmail.com> <49FE9AD6.7030207@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: Hi, If I wanted to edit this file... Is there a .xcf file or is the .svg file the source. I'm new to svg's. Overall; I love the banner. I don't know I'd be too much to watermark the logo or "11"- I'm viewing this in a blackberry. On 5/4/09, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 05/01/2009 12:02 PM, Paolo Leoni wrote: >> Hi there, >> we're approaching to another, great, fedora release. >> So, it's time to get some banners ;-) > > The basic layout is good (maybe the placement ans size of the logo could > be better) but I think it would be an interesting idea to change the > wording somehow so it includes the F11 slogan ("Reign"). > >> Below you can find two possible release banners (small): >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/b7/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1.png >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/f/ff/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1.svg >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/4/42/Fedora11-released-banner-small_2.png >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/9/96/Fedora11-released-banner-small_2.svg > > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ > photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Sent from my mobile device Marc F. www.fergytech.com Registered Linux User: #410978 "When life gives me lemons... I make Linuxaide, hmm good stuff!" From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue May 5 10:58:44 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 13:58:44 +0300 Subject: Fedora release banners In-Reply-To: References: <1799f9cf0905010202t61f8f3f5j10fc87aea9b00ad@mail.gmail.com> <49FE9AD6.7030207@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <4A001BE4.2070108@nicubunu.ro> On 05/05/2009 01:47 PM, Marc Ferguson wrote: > > If I wanted to edit this file... Is there a .xcf file or is the .svg > file the source. I'm new to svg's. Overall; I love the banner. I don't Yes, SVG is the source and it is vector graphics which you can edit with Inkscape. > know I'd be too much to watermark the logo or "11" A mere watermark can be also added with GIMP (GIMP will rasterize the SVG at import). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From jayme at jaymeayres.com Tue May 5 12:19:17 2009 From: jayme at jaymeayres.com (Jayme Ayres) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:19:17 -0300 Subject: Banner ideas In-Reply-To: <49FFD781.7090700@nicubunu.ro> References: <27a6293b0905040840y638f6573g929a47f2e756f7ac@mail.gmail.com> <49FF11AA.2020903@nicubunu.ro> <20090504170951.GG3437@localhost.localdomain> <1241458981.4257.32.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <64b33fc70905041128s4347733em91566051abaabcd9@mail.gmail.com> <49FFD781.7090700@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <64b33fc70905050519s4c40e1c8yd83a289c97f85e0a@mail.gmail.com> LIBERDADE AMIZADE FUNICONALIDADES INOVA??O 2009/5/5 Nicu Buculei > On 05/04/2009 09:28 PM, Jayme Ayres wrote: > >> As we have several spaces in the event, Maria Leandro and I are thinking >> of doing some different gear, my idea is that >> http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/fisl10/banner.png >> > > That's cool too! It looks like you will have a lot of eye candy and make me > feel bad for being lazy and not implementing a few ideas buried deep in a > corner of my head... > > As a minor observation, you forgot one TM near the bubble logo - > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#Vertical_Version_of_the_Logo > Sorry (IMO) about TM, is really necessary? :) I know it is a guidelines, but I think now that there is a TM in type, it is really necessary to put in another TM bubble? > I see your reasoning for reversing the order of the 4 foundations: Freedom > is at the bottom to be the largest, but I am not sure about this: we still > read from top to bottom... > > I am also not sure about translation, you have "inova??o" (innovation) > instead of "first", isn't this a bit to far from the original? > On the order of the words I understand the concern, but understands that when words are translated the size of each of them then tried to equalize changes significantly as the size of each building in the correct order, to strike a balance and a degree. See the imbalance there is in the correct order of the words: LIBERDADE AMIZADE FUNICONALIDADES INOVA??O Cheers! > > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ > photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com www.projetofedora.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jayme at jaymeayres.com Tue May 5 12:25:38 2009 From: jayme at jaymeayres.com (Jayme Ayres) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:25:38 -0300 Subject: Fedora T-shirt In-Reply-To: <49FFF0E8.10903@nicubunu.ro> References: <1241461173.13975.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49FFD8FD.1060602@nicubunu.ro> <49FFF0E8.10903@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <64b33fc70905050525i6311389flba71a040869f300d@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/5 Nicu Buculei > On 05/05/2009 10:25 AM, Gianluca Sforna wrote: > >> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> >>> Also, >>> probably the "http://" part on the back side can be dropped, everyone >>> will >>> figure is a website seeing the "www." >>> >>> I think the "official" address we want to spread is >> "http://fedoraproject.org", that is, no www at all >> > > This is a question I am also interested in, I am a hater of the "www." part > to the point where for my own websites www. is pointed to redirect to the > simple domain name. Bot OTOH, "http://" may be seen a bit to geeky. May > the ".org" at the end be enough to signal a website address? I think we could use the "www" in address, and agree with Nicu when using "http://" but Geeky is a way to be understood. I think they put "www" will be more understandable to non-geeks, but only the "normal people": D J > > > So what's the "official" URL? > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ > photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com www.projetofedora.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue May 5 12:37:44 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 15:37:44 +0300 Subject: Banner ideas In-Reply-To: <64b33fc70905050519s4c40e1c8yd83a289c97f85e0a@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0905040840y638f6573g929a47f2e756f7ac@mail.gmail.com> <49FF11AA.2020903@nicubunu.ro> <20090504170951.GG3437@localhost.localdomain> <1241458981.4257.32.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <64b33fc70905041128s4347733em91566051abaabcd9@mail.gmail.com> <49FFD781.7090700@nicubunu.ro> <64b33fc70905050519s4c40e1c8yd83a289c97f85e0a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A003318.8080706@nicubunu.ro> On 05/05/2009 03:19 PM, Jayme Ayres wrote: > 2009/5/5 Nicu Buculei > As a minor observation, you forgot one TM near the bubble logo - > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#Vertical_Version_of_the_Logo > > Sorry (IMO) about TM, is really necessary? :) > I know it is a guidelines, but I think now that there is a TM in type, > it is really necessary to put in another TM bubble? I am not a trademark expert, but I expect so: all the official versions of the logo have the TM sign in both places. But maybe we will have some more insightful input from Mo or Paul. > On the order of the words I understand the concern, but understands that > when words are translated the size of each of them then tried to > equalize changes significantly as the size of each building in the > correct order, to strike a balance and a degree. See the imbalance there > is in the correct order of the words: > LIBERDADE > AMIZADE > FUNICONALIDADES > INOVA??O I have the same problem in my own language: LIBERTATE PRIETENIE (or rarely used AMICI?IE) FUNC?IONALIT??I PRIMUL (or ?NT?IETATE) ... awfully close, right? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From tatica at fedoraproject.org Tue May 5 12:39:26 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 08:09:26 +1930 Subject: Banner ideas In-Reply-To: <64b33fc70905050519s4c40e1c8yd83a289c97f85e0a@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0905040840y638f6573g929a47f2e756f7ac@mail.gmail.com> <49FF11AA.2020903@nicubunu.ro> <20090504170951.GG3437@localhost.localdomain> <1241458981.4257.32.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <64b33fc70905041128s4347733em91566051abaabcd9@mail.gmail.com> <49FFD781.7090700@nicubunu.ro> <64b33fc70905050519s4c40e1c8yd83a289c97f85e0a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <27a6293b0905050539y2dccd486j578a4b2a74d2ec09@mail.gmail.com> Other try: http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3c.png a detailed view of the 4 foundations: http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/4fundaciones-relieve.png source: http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3c.svg 2009/5/6 Jayme Ayres : > > LIBERDADE > AMIZADE > FUNICONALIDADES > INOVA??O > > > 2009/5/5 Nicu Buculei >> >> On 05/04/2009 09:28 PM, Jayme Ayres wrote: >>> >>> As we have several spaces in the event, Maria Leandro and I are thinking >>> of doing some different gear, my idea is that >>> http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/fisl10/banner.png >> >> That's cool too! It looks like you will have a lot of eye candy and make >> me feel bad for being lazy and not implementing a few ideas buried deep in a >> corner of my head... >> >> As a minor observation, you forgot one TM near the bubble logo - >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#Vertical_Version_of_the_Logo > > Sorry (IMO) about TM, is really necessary? :) > I know it is a guidelines, but I think now that there is a TM in type, it is > really necessary to put in another TM bubble? > >> >> I see your reasoning for reversing the order of the 4 foundations: Freedom >> is at the bottom to be the largest, but I am not sure about this: we still >> read from top to bottom... >> >> I am also not sure about translation, you have "inova??o" (innovation) >> instead of "first", isn't this a bit to far from the original? > > On the order of the words I understand the concern, but understands that > when words are translated the size of each of them then tried to equalize > changes significantly as the size of each building in the correct order, to > strike a balance and a degree. See the imbalance there is in the correct > order of the words: > LIBERDADE > AMIZADE > FUNICONALIDADES > INOVA??O > > > Cheers! > > >> >> -- >> nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ >> photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ >> my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-art-list mailing list >> Fedora-art-list at redhat.com >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > -- > Jayme Ayres > www.jaymeayres.com > www.projetofedora.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" From jayme at jaymeayres.com Tue May 5 12:53:07 2009 From: jayme at jaymeayres.com (Jayme Ayres) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:53:07 -0300 Subject: Fedora 11 countdown banner (artwork team release) In-Reply-To: <1799f9cf0905031754p3c88d29ch2529fece9808a34f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1799f9cf0904031037p3d753c71o28831743d426daab@mail.gmail.com> <49DA1ED8.5010304@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0904071011o1ee410a9ya8791dc4d94518ad@mail.gmail.com> <49DC5111.6000108@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0904090157n68ac03d6kdeeb19ec2f3fbf8c@mail.gmail.com> <20090427234932.GI28424@sphe.res.cmu.edu> <1799f9cf0904280908wde2723j8b6b4003efa3cfe1@mail.gmail.com> <20090428171153.GM28424@sphe.res.cmu.edu> <1799f9cf0905010231o2b521324gd807eba8efb600b5@mail.gmail.com> <1799f9cf0905031754p3c88d29ch2529fece9808a34f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <64b33fc70905050553n779e7727m9a0c9ec08b995877@mail.gmail.com> Hi folks, Aonother translation for the countdown banner... in Portuguese of Brasil: http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/f11/fedora11-countdown-banner_pt-br.tar.gz Cheers! J 2009/5/3 Paolo Leoni > Hi there, > yes...I've another translation for the countdown banner... ;-) > Now it's time for the German translation. > > Ricky, you can find the package at this url: > > http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-countdown-banner_de.tar.gz > > Thanks to Robert Scheck for the translation instructions. > > -- > Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com www.projetofedora.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Tue May 5 13:15:30 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 16:15:30 +0300 Subject: Banner ideas In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0905050539y2dccd486j578a4b2a74d2ec09@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0905040840y638f6573g929a47f2e756f7ac@mail.gmail.com> <49FF11AA.2020903@nicubunu.ro> <20090504170951.GG3437@localhost.localdomain> <1241458981.4257.32.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <64b33fc70905041128s4347733em91566051abaabcd9@mail.gmail.com> <49FFD781.7090700@nicubunu.ro> <64b33fc70905050519s4c40e1c8yd83a289c97f85e0a@mail.gmail.com> <27a6293b0905050539y2dccd486j578a4b2a74d2ec09@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A003BF2.5090600@nicubunu.ro> On 05/05/2009 03:39 PM, Mar?a Leandro wrote: > Other try: > > http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3c.png > > a detailed view of the 4 foundations: > > http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/4fundaciones-relieve.png I like this... I was thinking to suggest some extrusion for the foundation icons but didn't want to sound too demanding. But you are cool enough and did it by yourself. > source: > > http://tatica.fedorapeople.org/Fedora-LATAM/pendon3c.svg ...still not sure about the way you wrote the url at the bottom, the .org part is hard to read. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Tue May 5 13:31:57 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 06:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Banner ideas In-Reply-To: <4A003318.8080706@nicubunu.ro> References: <27a6293b0905040840y638f6573g929a47f2e756f7ac@mail.gmail.com> <49FF11AA.2020903@nicubunu.ro> <20090504170951.GG3437@localhost.localdomain> <1241458981.4257.32.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <64b33fc70905041128s4347733em91566051abaabcd9@mail.gmail.com> <49FFD781.7090700@nicubunu.ro> <64b33fc70905050519s4c40e1c8yd83a289c97f85e0a@mail.gmail.com> <4A003318.8080706@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <927573.44626.qm@web50906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ---- Original Message ---- > From: Nicu Buculei > To: Fedora Art List > Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 8:37:44 AM > Subject: Re: Banner ideas > > On 05/05/2009 03:19 PM, Jayme Ayres wrote: > > 2009/5/5 Nicu Buculei > > As a minor observation, you forgot one TM near the bubble logo - > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#Vertical_Version_of_the_Logo > > > > Sorry (IMO) about TM, is really necessary? :) > > I know it is a guidelines, but I think now that there is a TM in type, > > it is really necessary to put in another TM bubble? > > I am not a trademark expert, but I expect so: all the official versions of the > logo have the TM sign in both places. But maybe we will have some more > insightful input from Mo or Paul. Yeh, it is necessary; both are needed. ~m From stickster at gmail.com Tue May 5 13:51:50 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:51:50 -0400 Subject: Fedora release banners In-Reply-To: <4A001BE4.2070108@nicubunu.ro> References: <1799f9cf0905010202t61f8f3f5j10fc87aea9b00ad@mail.gmail.com> <49FE9AD6.7030207@nicubunu.ro> <4A001BE4.2070108@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <20090505135150.GB3448@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 01:58:44PM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 05/05/2009 01:47 PM, Marc Ferguson wrote: >> >> If I wanted to edit this file... Is there a .xcf file or is the .svg >> file the source. I'm new to svg's. Overall; I love the banner. I don't > > Yes, SVG is the source and it is vector graphics which you can edit with > Inkscape. > >> know I'd be too much to watermark the logo or "11" > > A mere watermark can be also added with GIMP (GIMP will rasterize the SVG > at import). Re: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-websites-list/2009-May/msg00009.html Does this banner need to be translated under the websites freeze? That freeze date is listed as today or tomorrow. I see one version has the text "available for download now" -- if we plan to use it, we'd want that text to be included in the website data that's frozen for translation. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From stickster at gmail.com Tue May 5 13:52:57 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:52:57 -0400 Subject: Banner ideas In-Reply-To: <927573.44626.qm@web50906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <27a6293b0905040840y638f6573g929a47f2e756f7ac@mail.gmail.com> <49FF11AA.2020903@nicubunu.ro> <20090504170951.GG3437@localhost.localdomain> <1241458981.4257.32.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <64b33fc70905041128s4347733em91566051abaabcd9@mail.gmail.com> <49FFD781.7090700@nicubunu.ro> <64b33fc70905050519s4c40e1c8yd83a289c97f85e0a@mail.gmail.com> <4A003318.8080706@nicubunu.ro> <927573.44626.qm@web50906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090505135257.GC3448@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 06:31:57AM -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > ---- Original Message ---- > > > From: Nicu Buculei > > To: Fedora Art List > > Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 8:37:44 AM > > Subject: Re: Banner ideas > > > > On 05/05/2009 03:19 PM, Jayme Ayres wrote: > > > 2009/5/5 Nicu Buculei > > > As a minor observation, you forgot one TM near the bubble logo - > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#Vertical_Version_of_the_Logo > > > > > > Sorry (IMO) about TM, is really necessary? :) > > > I know it is a guidelines, but I think now that there is a TM in type, > > > it is really necessary to put in another TM bubble? > > > > I am not a trademark expert, but I expect so: all the official versions of the > > logo have the TM sign in both places. But maybe we will have some more > > insightful input from Mo or Paul. > > Yeh, it is necessary; both are needed. What Mo said, +1. :-) -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From stickster at gmail.com Tue May 5 13:57:41 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:57:41 -0400 Subject: Fedora T-shirt In-Reply-To: <49FFF0E8.10903@nicubunu.ro> References: <1241461173.13975.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49FFD8FD.1060602@nicubunu.ro> <49FFF0E8.10903@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <20090505135741.GD3448@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 10:55:20AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 05/05/2009 10:25 AM, Gianluca Sforna wrote: >> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: >>> Also, >>> probably the "http://" part on the back side can be dropped, everyone will >>> figure is a website seeing the "www." >>> >> I think the "official" address we want to spread is >> "http://fedoraproject.org", that is, no www at all > > This is a question I am also interested in, I am a hater of the "www." > part to the point where for my own websites www. is pointed to redirect > to the simple domain name. Bot OTOH, "http://" may be seen a bit to > geeky. May the ".org" at the end be enough to signal a website address? > > So what's the "official" URL? We do put "join.fedoraproject.org" on our DVD/CD media, so we might want to remain consistent by using that URL. But I think leaving off "http://" is fine. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From stickster at gmail.com Tue May 5 13:58:25 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:58:25 -0400 Subject: Fedora T-shirt In-Reply-To: <49FFF0E8.10903@nicubunu.ro> References: <1241461173.13975.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <49FFD8FD.1060602@nicubunu.ro> <49FFF0E8.10903@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <20090505135825.GE3448@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 10:55:20AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 05/05/2009 10:25 AM, Gianluca Sforna wrote: >> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: >>> Also, >>> probably the "http://" part on the back side can be dropped, everyone will >>> figure is a website seeing the "www." >>> >> I think the "official" address we want to spread is >> "http://fedoraproject.org", that is, no www at all > > This is a question I am also interested in, I am a hater of the "www." > part to the point where for my own websites www. is pointed to redirect > to the simple domain name. Bot OTOH, "http://" may be seen a bit to > geeky. May the ".org" at the end be enough to signal a website address? > > So what's the "official" URL? Sorry to reply twice -- I also think using "fedoraproject.org" on its own would be fine. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From jayme at jaymeayres.com Tue May 5 14:36:21 2009 From: jayme at jaymeayres.com (Jayme Ayres) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 11:36:21 -0300 Subject: Banner ideas In-Reply-To: <20090505135257.GC3448@localhost.localdomain> References: <27a6293b0905040840y638f6573g929a47f2e756f7ac@mail.gmail.com> <49FF11AA.2020903@nicubunu.ro> <20090504170951.GG3437@localhost.localdomain> <1241458981.4257.32.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <64b33fc70905041128s4347733em91566051abaabcd9@mail.gmail.com> <49FFD781.7090700@nicubunu.ro> <64b33fc70905050519s4c40e1c8yd83a289c97f85e0a@mail.gmail.com> <4A003318.8080706@nicubunu.ro> <927573.44626.qm@web50906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090505135257.GC3448@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <64b33fc70905050736k5b7baeadwf5443301e7bd3860@mail.gmail.com> Ok, changed! Add TM beside a Fedora bubble I changed the sequence of the 4 Foundations, I think that was good, but aesthetically I prefer the previous version [2]. [1]http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/fisl10/banner.png [2] http://jaymeayres.com/arquivos/fedora/fisl10/banner-old.png Tatica, you may also have to put the TM in their art and I agree to the changes proposes by Nicu. Cheers. 2009/5/5 Paul W. Frields > On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 06:31:57AM -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > > > ---- Original Message ---- > > > > > From: Nicu Buculei > > > To: Fedora Art List > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 8:37:44 AM > > > Subject: Re: Banner ideas > > > > > > On 05/05/2009 03:19 PM, Jayme Ayres wrote: > > > > 2009/5/5 Nicu Buculei > > > > As a minor observation, you forgot one TM near the bubble logo - > > > > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines#Vertical_Version_of_the_Logo > > > > > > > > Sorry (IMO) about TM, is really necessary? :) > > > > I know it is a guidelines, but I think now that there is a TM in > type, > > > > it is really necessary to put in another TM bubble? > > > > > > I am not a trademark expert, but I expect so: all the official versions > of the > > > logo have the TM sign in both places. But maybe we will have some more > > > insightful input from Mo or Paul. > > > > Yeh, it is necessary; both are needed. > > What Mo said, +1. :-) > > -- > Paul W. 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The Fedora Project is also going to make a small donation to this year's event. --Max From tatica at fedoraproject.org Wed May 6 17:54:38 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 13:24:38 +1930 Subject: libre graphics meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <27a6293b0905061054h26475750j7ecf4072ac729af6@mail.gmail.com> Excelent program, but I'm really really far :( 2009/5/7 Max Spevack : > On Sat, 2 May 2009, Max Spevack wrote: > >> http://www.libregraphicsmeeting.org/2009/ >> >> Is anyone from the Fedora community attending this? > > For next year's meeting, I'd really love for us to send a couple of people. > ?This year's event caught me by surprise, but I would be happy to sponsor a > couple of Fedora Art Team members next year, if we can plan far enough in > advance. > > The Fedora Project is also going to make a small donation to this year's > event. > > --Max > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Wed May 6 18:36:25 2009 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:36:25 -0300 Subject: Wallpaper Message-ID: <4A01D8A9.2040503@projetofedora.org> Hello Guys! The Fedora 11 Preview wallpaper is the Final version of our artwork ? Why the lion was ripped ? -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From jayme at jaymeayres.com Wed May 6 18:33:18 2009 From: jayme at jaymeayres.com (Jayme Ayres) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:33:18 -0300 Subject: libre graphics meeting In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0905061054h26475750j7ecf4072ac729af6@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0905061054h26475750j7ecf4072ac729af6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <64b33fc70905061133w6c2ad76ej8d61bb9613770a0@mail.gmail.com> Me2 Maria! +1 2009/5/6 Mar?a Leandro > Excelent program, but I'm really really far :( > > > > 2009/5/7 Max Spevack : > > On Sat, 2 May 2009, Max Spevack wrote: > > > >> http://www.libregraphicsmeeting.org/2009/ > >> > >> Is anyone from the Fedora community attending this? > > > > For next year's meeting, I'd really love for us to send a couple of > people. > > This year's event caught me by surprise, but I would be happy to sponsor > a > > couple of Fedora Art Team members next year, if we can plan far enough in > > advance. > > > > The Fedora Project is also going to make a small donation to this year's > > event. > > > > --Max > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Fedora-art-list mailing list > > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > > > > > -- > tatica > Maria Gracia Leandro > http://www.tatica.org > http://www.iseit.net > http://www.latinux.org > http://www.latinux.com > http://www.fedora-ve.org > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro > LinuxUser= 440285 > GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 > "Be yourself... 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URL: From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Wed May 6 18:54:14 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <4A01D8A9.2040503@projetofedora.org> References: <4A01D8A9.2040503@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <144280.41888.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Rodrigo, ----- Original Message ---- > From: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > To: Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 2:36:25 PM > Subject: Wallpaper > > Hello Guys! > > The Fedora 11 Preview wallpaper is the Final version of our artwork ? > > Why the lion was ripped ? We received numerous rawhide user complaints that the lion was too distracting for a default background. We decided to make the lion wallpaper a bonus feature for the right screen in a dual screen setup as well as offer the lion wallpaper as a non-default alternative. ~m From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Wed May 6 18:54:14 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <4A01D8A9.2040503@projetofedora.org> References: <4A01D8A9.2040503@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <144280.41888.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Rodrigo, ----- Original Message ---- > From: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > To: Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 2:36:25 PM > Subject: Wallpaper > > Hello Guys! > > The Fedora 11 Preview wallpaper is the Final version of our artwork ? > > Why the lion was ripped ? We received numerous rawhide user complaints that the lion was too distracting for a default background. We decided to make the lion wallpaper a bonus feature for the right screen in a dual screen setup as well as offer the lion wallpaper as a non-default alternative. ~m From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Wed May 6 18:56:44 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fw: hey look a shirt Message-ID: <64135.42996.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I think I forgot to hit reply all... ~m ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: M?ir?n Duffy > To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 10:01:15 AM > Subject: Re: hey look a shirt > > Hey Ian, > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Ian Weller > > To: fedora-art-list at redhat.com; fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 12:37:17 AM > > Subject: hey look a shirt > > > > splatter v2.0. > > > > http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/fedora-splatter.png > > > > SVG source is http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/fedora-splatter.svg. > > i'll upload to wiki tomorrow unless someone wants to do that for me and > > replace the current ones. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt#Fedora_Splatter > > > > it needs cleaned up a tad bit before production but it should be better > > for screenprinting than the previous ones. > > I don't know, I kind of think the lighter blue splatter behind the logotype is a > little distracting. I don't like how it's interacting with the logo, it just > seems like it's vibrating too much with the logo. > > Here's some alternative ideas to get the same kind of look/feel without buzzing > the logo so much: > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/misc/splattershirts/splatter_mo-1.png > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/misc/splattershirts/splatter-mo-2.png > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/misc/splattershirts/splatter-mo-3.png > > ~m From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Wed May 6 19:15:47 2009 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 16:15:47 -0300 Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <144280.41888.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <4A01D8A9.2040503@projetofedora.org> <144280.41888.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A01E1E3.8040901@projetofedora.org> Hi Mairin. M?ir?n Duffy escreveu: > Hi Rodrigo, > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira >> To: Fedora-art-list at redhat.com >> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 2:36:25 PM >> Subject: Wallpaper >> >> Hello Guys! >> >> The Fedora 11 Preview wallpaper is the Final version of our artwork ? >> >> Why the lion was ripped ? > > We received numerous rawhide user complaints that the lion was too distracting for a default background. We decided to make the lion wallpaper a bonus feature for the right screen in a dual screen setup as well as offer the lion wallpaper as a non-default alternative. > The wallpaper without a symbol is very simple! How the group take this decisions ? I think will be better to use the vote system for next releases, to get feedback from all Ambassadors and contributors. Can we open this decision process ? -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From mspevack at redhat.com Wed May 6 19:22:50 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 21:22:50 +0200 (CEST) Subject: libre graphics meeting In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0905061054h26475750j7ecf4072ac729af6@mail.gmail.com> References: <27a6293b0905061054h26475750j7ecf4072ac729af6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 7 May 2009, Mar?a Leandro wrote: > Excelent program, but I'm really really far :( I think it moves around all over the world :) --Max From jayme at jaymeayres.com Wed May 6 19:37:24 2009 From: jayme at jaymeayres.com (Jayme Ayres) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 16:37:24 -0300 Subject: Fw: hey look a shirt In-Reply-To: <64135.42996.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <64135.42996.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <64b33fc70905061237o130a7d7fp17f3c340aabb0e52@mail.gmail.com> hummmm ... I think to get more on the concept of design, the logo could be a little more "dirty", it will be weakened? 2009/5/6 M?ir?n Duffy > > I think I forgot to hit reply all... > > ~m > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > > From: M?ir?n Duffy > > To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base > > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 10:01:15 AM > > Subject: Re: hey look a shirt > > > > Hey Ian, > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: Ian Weller > > > To: fedora-art-list at redhat.com; fedora-marketing-list at redhat.com > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 12:37:17 AM > > > Subject: hey look a shirt > > > > > > splatter v2.0. > > > > > > http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/fedora-splatter.png > > > > > > SVG source is http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/fedora-splatter.svg. > > > i'll upload to wiki tomorrow unless someone wants to do that for me and > > > replace the current ones. > > > ?https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt#Fedora_Splatter > > > > > > it needs cleaned up a tad bit before production but it should be better > > > for screenprinting than the previous ones. > > > > I don't know, I kind of think the lighter blue splatter behind the logotype is a > > little distracting. I don't like how it's interacting with the logo, it just > > seems like it's vibrating too much with the logo. > > > > Here's some alternative ideas to get the same kind of look/feel without buzzing > > the logo so much: > > > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/misc/splattershirts/splatter_mo-1.png > > > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/misc/splattershirts/splatter-mo-2.png > > > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/misc/splattershirts/splatter-mo-3.png > > > > ~m > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com www.projetofedora.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Wed May 6 19:38:18 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 12:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <4A01E1E3.8040901@projetofedora.org> References: <4A01D8A9.2040503@projetofedora.org> <144280.41888.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01E1E3.8040901@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <186445.58538.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Rodrigo, ----- Original Message ---- > From: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > To: Fedora Art List > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 3:15:47 PM > Subject: Re: Wallpaper > The wallpaper without a symbol is very simple! Who says a default wallpaper needs to be complicated? The more complex a default wallpaper, the harder it is to see the items on your desktop. This is not a good thing and we receive complaints *regulary* when a wallpaper is perceived to be too complicated/busy for discerning items on the desktop. > > How the group take this decisions ? In general, how this group handles a decision (and how I think any group would) depends at what level the decision is and the context around the decision. This particular problem needed to be addressed (in short-order to say the least) so I made a call on the list. No one opposed it and several people supported it. If you are curious read back through the list archives. > > I think will be better to use the vote system for next releases, to get > feedback from all Ambassadors and contributors. > > Can we open this decision process ? I think voting on every bug and issue that comes up (especially in something as subjective as artwork where user preferences vary widely) is a really bad idea for ANY project. It's supremely inefficient - how can you accomplish anything when you are constantly needing to arrange and manage voting processes? Who gets to vote on the items that get to be on the ballot? Design itself is essentially a continual process of decision-making. If we had a vote on every single decision made for every design this team produced for Fedora, it might take us 10 years to do the artwork for a release and I don't feel I am exaggerating. This is an extremely open design team. We openly discuss our methods and our decisions, and we make our source artwork available in open formats using open licenses so anyone who wants to participate, extend, or build on our work can easily. If you been participating in the list when we received complaints on this particular issue and when we made the final call on how to handle it, you could have spoken up just as anyone else could have. Even if you were not paying attention to the list at the time, it doesn't mean the issue wasn't discussed openly. I really want to see more folks participating in the artwork process - creating mockups or alternatives or suggesting solutions to problems such as this one (where the lion was too distracting for some users). So, if you would like to have a say, please join us. Then the next time an issue like this crops up, you'll more easily be able to take the opportunity to speak up and discuss the issue. Thanks, ~m From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Wed May 6 19:38:42 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 12:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: libre graphics meeting In-Reply-To: References: <27a6293b0905061054h26475750j7ecf4072ac729af6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <155510.22343.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Max Spevack > To: Fedora Art List > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 3:22:50 PM > Subject: Re: libre graphics meeting > > On Thu, 7 May 2009, Mar?a Leandro wrote: > > > Excelent program, but I'm really really far :( > > I think it moves around all over the world :) I think it only moves between France and Montreal but I could be wrong. ~m From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Wed May 6 20:19:00 2009 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 17:19:00 -0300 Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <186445.58538.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <4A01D8A9.2040503@projetofedora.org> <144280.41888.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01E1E3.8040901@projetofedora.org> <186445.58538.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A01F0B4.1000501@projetofedora.org> M?ir?n Duffy escreveu: > Hi Rodrigo, > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira >> To: Fedora Art List >> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 3:15:47 PM >> Subject: Re: Wallpaper > >> The wallpaper without a symbol is very simple! > > Who says a default wallpaper needs to be complicated? The more complex a default wallpaper, the harder it is to see the items on your desktop. This is not a good thing and we receive complaints *regulary* when a wallpaper is perceived to be too complicated/busy for discerning items on the desktop. >> How the group take this decisions ? Not complicated, but with a logo or symbol about the name/release. I think a blue screen with some effects isn't the best wallpaper for Fedora 11. Fedora 10 had a sun Fedora 9 waves Fedora 8 transition effect during the day Fedora 7 balloons ..... > In general, how this group handles a decision (and how I think any group would) depends at what level the decision is and the context around the decision. This particular problem needed to be addressed (in short-order to say the least) so I made a call on the list. No one opposed it and several people supported it. If you are curious read back through the list archives. >> I think will be better to use the vote system for next releases, to get >> feedback from all Ambassadors and contributors. >> >> Can we open this decision process ? > > I think voting on every bug and issue that comes up (especially in something as subjective as artwork where user preferences vary widely) is a really bad idea for ANY project. It's supremely inefficient - how can you accomplish anything when you are constantly needing to arrange and manage voting processes? Who gets to vote on the items that get to be on the ballot? Design itself is essentially a continual process of decision-making. If we had a vote on every single decision made for every design this team produced for Fedora, it might take us 10 years to do the artwork for a release and I don't feel I am exaggerating. > > This is an extremely open design team. We openly discuss our methods and our decisions, and we make our source artwork available in open formats using open licenses so anyone who wants to participate, extend, or build on our work can easily. If you been participating in the list when we received complaints on this particular issue and when we made the final call on how to handle it, you could have spoken up just as anyone else could have. Even if you were not paying attention to the list at the time, it doesn't mean the issue wasn't discussed openly. > > I really want to see more folks participating in the artwork process - creating mockups or alternatives or suggesting solutions to problems such as this one (where the lion was too distracting for some users). So, if you would like to have a say, please join us. Then the next time an issue like this crops up, you'll more easily be able to take the opportunity to speak up and discuss the issue. My sugestion isn't to "voting on every bug and issue that comes up", but voting on artwork options for every Fedora Release to take a direction (not a final decision), to have feedback from the people that spread and use Fedora around the world. I'm talking constantly with Maria Leandro, Jayme and more recently Samuele and nobody knew about the changes and decisions taked about the wallpaper/Lion. If this process is open, clear and etc why these members, member of this list don't knew about this decision ? For me this decision impacts all users/contributors/ambassadors, but the decision isn't clear and isn't open! Samule saved us again, this time from a Windows XP Like wallpaper, but, unfortunately the beautiful wallpaper was ripped! Our artwork team is great and is doing a GREAT JOB, but, we need to improve the decision process. -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From ian at ianweller.org Wed May 6 20:29:05 2009 From: ian at ianweller.org (Ian Weller) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:29:05 -0500 Subject: Fw: hey look a shirt In-Reply-To: <64135.42996.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <64135.42996.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090506202905.GB3398@hovercraft.mobile.ianweller.org> On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 11:56:44AM -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > I don't know, I kind of think the lighter blue splatter behind the logotype is a > little distracting. I don't like how it's interacting with the logo, it just > seems like it's vibrating too much with the logo. > > Here's some alternative ideas to get the same kind of look/feel without buzzing > the logo so much: > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/misc/splattershirts/splatter_mo-1.png > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/misc/splattershirts/splatter-mo-2.png > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/misc/splattershirts/splatter-mo-3.png > I think that on a shirt medium with screenprinting this won't be a problem as the white text will likely "pop out" more than it does on a computer monitor. I also don't really like the concept of the inverse splatter that you did in the above images. However I'd like to let other people determine which one they like better, see which one would provide more demand. -- Ian Weller GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm just concerned about the implications for the logo usage guidelines... ~m From nisses.mail at home.se Wed May 6 21:23:08 2009 From: nisses.mail at home.se (Andreas Nilsson) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 23:23:08 +0200 Subject: libre graphics meeting In-Reply-To: <155510.22343.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <27a6293b0905061054h26475750j7ecf4072ac729af6@mail.gmail.com> <155510.22343.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A01FFBC.7090806@home.se> M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> On Thu, 7 May 2009, Mar?a Leandro wrote: >> >> >>> Excelent program, but I'm really really far :( >>> >> I think it moves around all over the world :) >> > > I think it only moves between France and Montreal but I could be wrong. > It was in Poland last year and it was supposed to be in Singapore this year before it got moved. The organization is pretty open to suggestion on where to hold it, so it's possible to suggest your home town. :) - Andreas From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Wed May 6 21:26:05 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <4A01F0B4.1000501@projetofedora.org> References: <4A01D8A9.2040503@projetofedora.org> <144280.41888.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01E1E3.8040901@projetofedora.org> <186445.58538.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01F0B4.1000501@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <963293.91593.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > Not complicated, but with a logo or symbol about the name/release. We haven't had a logo in the wallpaper since F8. The wallpaper uses the same base artwork/theme as the more knock-you-over-the-head artwork so it matches fine. > I think a blue screen with some effects isn't the best wallpaper for > Fedora 11. > > Fedora 10 had a sun > Fedora 9 waves > Fedora 8 transition effect during the day This was an extremely abstract rendering. F8 and F9 both had transition effects. Just because things were done one way in the past doesn't mean that way was the best way or the way to go now. As has been discussed on this list extensively over the past couple of years, we're looking to tone down the artwork a lot more and make it a bit more elegant and not knock-you-over-the-head-with-something-thematic-in-every-single-available-space-used-for-artwork. > My sugestion isn't to "voting on every bug and issue that comes up", but > voting on artwork options for every Fedora Release to take a direction > (not a final decision), to have feedback from the people that spread and > use Fedora around the world. I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood. I thought you were talking about the decision to not have the lion on the left screen wallpaper by default. The decision to go with the lion wallpaper was made very much as a group discussion, discussed and agonized over thoroughly on-list and over IRC. The last time we did a vote was a disaster. We were getting multiple art team FAS group requests daily from people who wanted to vote. Too bad we don't normally get that many requests from people who actually want to help produce artwork. > > I'm talking constantly with Maria Leandro, Jayme and more recently > Samuele and nobody knew about the changes and decisions taked about the > wallpaper/Lion. Ultimately, as the team lead of the art team, I am responsible for when these decisions have to be made. I am the person who has to stay up all night and work to make deadlines, giving up my free time up to get things done when it isn't getting done. This is a role I truly do not enjoy, as it seems that the artwork is ALWAYS controversial, release after release. There is no way to satisfy everyone with the artwork. When one person is happy, there are 5 others who are upset about it. Change things to make those 5 people happy, then there are 20 more who are unhappy. Samuele went on vacation for a long time. Unfortunately, the deadlines for this team do not get to go on vacation. We were getting many complaints about the lion being in the wallpaper by default, and a decision had to be made. If I had held a vote, Samuele wouldn't have been there to vote. It is unfortunate that the artwork we went with was submitted so late (well past the deadline). The quality of the artwork is what drove us to make an exception to the deadline, but this obviously left us very shorthanded on time to deal with issues that cropped up such as the incessant complaints about the lion being too busy. Perhaps if the artwork had been submitted according to the schedule, we would have had more time to deliberate on how to handle the user complaints. Please read the archives. Please. I just had to take time out of my incredibly busy day to dig these links out for you. I would greatly appreciate if you would honor that by reading these threads before continuing this discussion. Thread: "Artwork Feedback" start here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00070.html Thread: "Leonidas background brightness" start here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00137.html Thread: "Leonidas backgrounds" start here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00132.html Thread: "Improving Leonidas backgrounds" start here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00141.html Message (Schedule reminder) https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00160.html Thread: "Wallpaper for F11" https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00255.html > If this process is open, clear and etc why these members, member of this > list don't knew about this decision ? If they were following the list, they would have as documented above. If Samuele, Maria, and Jayme have issues I would rather hear from them directly than second hand, okay? I saw Samuele's message about the changes and after the discussion that had ensured I had thought the confusion had been cleared up. I have not heard from either Maria or Jayme about their concerns as of yet so that is news to me. > > For me this decision impacts all users/contributors/ambassadors, but the > decision isn't clear and isn't open! You tell me how it isn't open after reading the threads above. > > Samule saved us again, this time from a Windows XP Like wallpaper, but, > unfortunately the beautiful wallpaper was ripped! > > Our artwork team is great and is doing a GREAT JOB, but, we need to > improve the decision process. If anyone would like to step up as art team leader, please let me know, as I no longer wish to hold the position. ~m From tatica at fedoraproject.org Wed May 6 21:28:31 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 16:58:31 +1930 Subject: libre graphics meeting In-Reply-To: <4A01FFBC.7090806@home.se> References: <27a6293b0905061054h26475750j7ecf4072ac729af6@mail.gmail.com> <155510.22343.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01FFBC.7090806@home.se> Message-ID: <27a6293b0905061428s375d0fffkf1010b53083fbdef@mail.gmail.com> I think that isn't an option for me :( 2009/5/7 Andreas Nilsson : > M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, 7 May 2009, Mar?a Leandro wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Excelent program, but I'm really really far :( >>>> >>> >>> I think it moves around all over the world :) >>> >> >> I think it only moves between France and Montreal but I could be wrong. >> > > It was in Poland last year and it was supposed to be in Singapore this year > before it got moved. > The organization is pretty open to suggestion on where to hold it, so it's > possible to suggest your home town. :) > - Andreas > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.iseit.net http://www.latinux.org http://www.latinux.com http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" From tatica at fedoraproject.org Wed May 6 22:05:33 2009 From: tatica at fedoraproject.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mar=EDa_Leandro?=) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 17:35:33 +1930 Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <963293.91593.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <4A01D8A9.2040503@projetofedora.org> <144280.41888.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01E1E3.8040901@projetofedora.org> <186445.58538.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01F0B4.1000501@projetofedora.org> <963293.91593.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <27a6293b0905061505q68aff30dp52de2bacb88042ae@mail.gmail.com> Hello all. Between lines: 2009/5/7 M?ir?n Duffy : > > ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > >> Not complicated, but with a logo or symbol about the name/release. > > We haven't had a logo in the wallpaper since F8. The wallpaper uses the same base artwork/theme as the more knock-you-over-the-head artwork so it matches fine. > >> I think a blue screen with some effects isn't the best wallpaper for >> Fedora 11. >> >> Fedora 10 had a sun >> Fedora 9 waves >> Fedora 8 transition effect during the day > > This was an extremely abstract rendering. F8 and F9 both had transition effects. > > Just because things were done one way in the past doesn't mean that way was the best way or the way to go now. As has been discussed on this list extensively over the past couple of years, we're looking to tone down the artwork a lot more and make it a bit more elegant and not knock-you-over-the-head-with-something-thematic-in-every-single-available-space-used-for-artwork. I think that we were fine with the F6, F7 and F8 wallpapers; and the change was a little bit too hard. I said this before and is my personal opinion. I send some test in the past but I was really working with other issues. Besides my English isn't so good, and sometimes I just don't want to give an answer for not make a mistake. > >> My sugestion isn't to "voting on every bug and issue that comes up", but >> voting on artwork options for every Fedora Release to take a direction >> (not a final decision), to have feedback from the people that spread and >> use Fedora around the world. > > I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood. I thought you were talking about the decision to not have the lion on the left screen wallpaper by default. The decision to go with the lion wallpaper was made very much as a group discussion, discussed and agonized over thoroughly on-list and over IRC. > > The last time we did a vote was a disaster. We were getting multiple art team FAS group requests daily from people who wanted to vote. Too bad we don't normally get that many requests from people who actually want to help produce artwork. There are a lot of solutions for this. For example, take the voting in 2 sections: 60% of the current art team 40% of a free vote Is really important to get the users opinions. They will use fedora and the artwork (for me) is one of the most important issues. The users (noobs or pro) will see the wallpaper everyday, this is really important. >> >> I'm talking constantly with Maria Leandro, Jayme and more recently >> Samuele and nobody knew about the changes and decisions taked about the >> wallpaper/Lion. > > Ultimately, as the team lead of the art team, I am responsible for when these decisions have to be made. I am the person who has to stay up all night and work to make deadlines, giving up my free time up to get things done when it isn't getting done. This is a role I truly do not enjoy, as it seems that the artwork is ALWAYS controversial, release after release. There is no way to satisfy everyone with the artwork. When one person is happy, there are 5 others who are upset about it. Change things to make those 5 people happy, then there are 20 more who are unhappy. > We all do that Mairin. In different ways we all give something from our lives to the project. Is true that you take the mayor responsibility and always there is a group of persons who never get satisfied, but there are ways to know if the artwork (in this case) goes on the right line. Like I said, polls, interviews, comments, free suggestions need to be done frequently. > Samuele went on vacation for a long time. Unfortunately, the deadlines for this team do not get to go on vacation. We were getting many complaints about the lion being in the wallpaper by default, and a decision had to be made. If I had held a vote, Samuele wouldn't have been there to vote. It is unfortunate that the artwork we went with was submitted so late (well past the deadline). The quality of the artwork is what drove us to make an exception to the deadline, but this obviously left us very shorthanded on time to deal with issues that cropped up such as the incessant complaints about the lion being too busy. Perhaps if the artwork had been submitted according to the schedule, we would have had more time to deliberate on how to handle the user complaints. > > Please read the archives. Please. I just had to take time out of my incredibly busy day to dig these links out for you. I would greatly appreciate if you would honor that by reading these threads before continuing this discussion. > > Thread: "Artwork Feedback" start here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00070.html > > Thread: "Leonidas background brightness" start here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00137.html > > Thread: "Leonidas backgrounds" start here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00132.html > > Thread: "Improving Leonidas backgrounds" start here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00141.html > > Message (Schedule reminder) https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00160.html > > Thread: "Wallpaper for F11" https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00255.html > >> If this process is open, clear and etc why these members, member of this >> list don't knew about this decision ? > > If they were following the list, they would have as documented above. If Samuele, Maria, and Jayme have issues I would rather hear from them directly than second hand, okay? I saw Samuele's message about the changes and after the discussion that had ensured I had thought the confusion had been cleared up. I have not heard from either Maria or Jayme about their concerns as of yet so that is news to me. I think this isn't necessary. This is not like "who say and who didn't read a thread". Is right that I hasn't been reading every thread of the Fedora11 discussion; my mistake.; I also have a huge responsibility working on a lot of LATAM events, on Spanish artwork, Users support for new users, working on several things of the Design Service, and more. Since the selection of the name for this version, was very controversial, so isn't a surprise to find this kind of things. >> >> For me this decision impacts all users/contributors/ambassadors, but the >> decision isn't clear and isn't open! > > You tell me how it isn't open after reading the threads above. >> >> Samule saved us again, this time from a Windows XP Like wallpaper, but, >> unfortunately the beautiful wallpaper was ripped! >> >> Our artwork team is great and is doing a GREAT JOB, but, we need to >> improve the decision process. > > If anyone would like to step up as art team leader, please let me know, as I no longer wish to hold the position. > We need a lot of new ideas; more people working on themes. I've seen that in the past 2 versions, people don't send many artwork as they did before. This is the point that we need to take care; I'm really sure that if we recruit a new group of people we'll get the work done in time. And if the people won't join the Art team, we can make a poll... and if not, we can make a contest... and if not, we can make a public brainstorm... and if not.... We can do a lot of thing M?ir?n, but patience is at the top of the list. I join the team only because I love your graphics and Nicu's cartoons; for me, this means a lot. Good night. -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://www.fedora-ve.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MariaLeandro LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 "Be yourself... Don't be anyone else" From ian at ianweller.org Wed May 6 22:51:57 2009 From: ian at ianweller.org (Ian Weller) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 17:51:57 -0500 Subject: Fw: hey look a shirt In-Reply-To: <116950.25256.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <64135.42996.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090506202905.GB3398@hovercraft.mobile.ianweller.org> <116950.25256.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090506225157.GA15126@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 02:02:07PM -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: Ian Weller > > > I think that on a shirt medium with screenprinting this won't be a > > problem as the white text will likely "pop out" more than it does on a > > computer monitor. > > What about the logo mark? > I'm just concerned about the implications for the logo usage guidelines... > Do you mean the infinity logo or the words? 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The wallpaper uses the same base artwork/theme as the more knock-you-over-the-head artwork so it matches fine. > >> I think a blue screen with some effects isn't the best wallpaper for >> Fedora 11. >> >> Fedora 10 had a sun >> Fedora 9 waves >> Fedora 8 transition effect during the day > > This was an extremely abstract rendering. F8 and F9 both had transition effects. Yes, I know! > Just because things were done one way in the past doesn't mean that way was the best way or the way to go now. As has been discussed on this list extensively over the past couple of years, we're looking to tone down the artwork a lot more and make it a bit more elegant and not knock-you-over-the-head-with-something-thematic-in-every-single-available-space-used-for-artwork. We need to change, of corse, but we need to improve, to grow up. Release by release the artwork team has done this job better and better. IMHO the Fedora 11 artwork, codename and slogan isn't going in the same way. All decisions was very confuse and troubled. >> My sugestion isn't to "voting on every bug and issue that comes up", but >> voting on artwork options for every Fedora Release to take a direction >> (not a final decision), to have feedback from the people that spread and >> use Fedora around the world. > > I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood. I thought you were talking about the decision to not have the lion on the left screen wallpaper by default. The decision to go with the lion wallpaper was made very much as a group discussion, discussed and agonized over thoroughly on-list and over IRC. > > The last time we did a vote was a disaster. We were getting multiple art team FAS group requests daily from people who wanted to vote. Too bad we don't normally get that many requests from people who actually want to help produce artwork. >> I'm talking constantly with Maria Leandro, Jayme and more recently >> Samuele and nobody knew about the changes and decisions taked about the >> wallpaper/Lion. > > Ultimately, as the team lead of the art team, I am responsible for when these decisions have to be made. > I am the person who has to stay up all night and work to make deadlines, giving up my free time up to get things done when it isn't getting done. > This is a role I truly do not enjoy, as it seems that the artwork is ALWAYS controversial, release after release. > There is no way to satisfy everyone with the artwork. > When one person is happy, there are 5 others who are upset about it. >Change things to make those 5 people happy,then there are 20 more who are unhappy Your arguments confirm my arguments. If we have troubles and controversies release by release, the process is not good enough and we need to improve. I'm working in the Fedora Project since 2005 as contributor (translation, documentation, free media, events, support, infra, fedora latam, fedora education and others projects) and some decisions makes our job more hard, I know! > Samuele went on vacation for a long time. Unfortunately, the deadlines for this team do not get to go on vacation. We were getting many complaints about the lion being in the wallpaper by default, and a decision had to be made. If I had held a vote, Samuele wouldn't have been there to vote. It is unfortunate that the artwork we went with was submitted so late (well past the deadline). The quality of the artwork is what drove us to make an exception to the deadline, but this obviously left us very shorthanded on time to deal with issues that cropped up such as the incessant complaints about the lion being too busy. Perhaps if the artwork had been submitted according to the schedule, we would have had more time to deliberate on how to handle the user complaints. > > Please read the archives. Please. I just had to take time out of my incredibly busy day to dig these links out for you. I would greatly appreciate if you would honor that by reading these threads before continuing this discussion. Sure! > Thread: "Artwork Feedback" start here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00070.html > Thread: "Leonidas background brightness" start here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00137.html > Thread: "Leonidas backgrounds" start here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00132.html > Thread: "Improving Leonidas backgrounds" start here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00141.html > Message (Schedule reminder) https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00160.html > Thread: "Wallpaper for F11" https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00255.html Good, but, we have millions of users. Using a open process (voting system) we can take the feedback/opinions from a large community and not from 15 people only. 99% of our users use icons/files/folders only in the left side of the Desktop.(Warren, please move your icons to the left side of the screen :-) ). We could change the lion colors, brightness, we dont need to remove the Lion. Using this blue lion variation http://mola.fedorapeople.org/gimp/mairin/change_to_blue_006-1.jpg the Warren's icons can stay in the right site of the screnn and we can have a GREAT, BEAUTIFUL, BLUE, WITH LION wallpaper. We have time to do it ? >> If this process is open, clear and etc why these members, member of this >> list don't knew about this decision ? > If they were following the list, they would have as documented above. If Samuele, Maria, and Jayme have issues I would rather hear from them directly than second hand, okay? I saw Samuele's message about the changes and after the discussion that had ensured I had thought the confusion had been cleared up. I have not heard from either Maria or Jayme about their concerns as of yet so that is news to me. >> For me this decision impacts all users/contributors/ambassadors, but the >> decision isn't clear and isn't open! > > You tell me how it isn't open after reading the threads above. Isn't open enough! We need to ask and invite users, contributors and ambassadors to vote. >> Samule saved us again, this time from a Windows XP Like wallpaper, but, >> unfortunately the beautiful wallpaper was ripped! >> >> Our artwork team is great and is doing a GREAT JOB, but, we need to >> improve the decision process. > > If anyone would like to step up as art team leader, please let me know, as I no longer wish to hold the position. > You are a great designer and is doing a great job with your team! Don't take it personal. The problem isn't with you, is with the process! :-) -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From johannbg at hi.is Wed May 6 23:17:49 2009 From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 23:17:49 +0000 Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0905061505q68aff30dp52de2bacb88042ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A01D8A9.2040503@projetofedora.org> <144280.41888.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01E1E3.8040901@projetofedora.org> <186445.58538.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01F0B4.1000501@projetofedora.org> <963293.91593.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <27a6293b0905061505q68aff30dp52de2bacb88042ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A021A9D.9010101@hi.is> Firstly it's already to late in the release cycle to start demanding some kind of vote or voting system. Secondly Participate or monitor to this list from the beginning of the release cycle to be up2date on what's happening and why things are being done the way they are being done. If you are unable to do that start reading the mailing lists archives before posting a topic to prevent reoccurring threads. If you have something to add added to that thread. ( If the topic reoccurred reply to the thread with a link to the original thread ) Thirdly This decision has been made and it's final ( at least for this release cycle ) Fourthly The background with the lion did not get sent to /dev/null If you want the lion open up a terminal and run su -c 'rpm -Uhv http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/leonidas-backgrounds/10.93.0/1.fc11/noarch/leonidas-backgrounds-10.93.0-1.fc11.noarch.rpm http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/leonidas-backgrounds/10.93.0/1.fc11/noarch/leonidas-backgrounds-common-10.93.0-1.fc11.noarch.rpm --oldpackage && echo "exclude=leonidas-backgrounds leonidas-backgrounds-common" >> /etc/yum.conf' If the background with the lion will be provided as an add on then just open up a terminal window and run yum -y install $package Then select that background from the list from available backgrounds. ( Ye might wanna add that to the release-notes for those that want the lion ) M?ir?n Duffy you are doing great job and are an excellent leader don't let the nature of mailing lists put you off balance just build an immune system :). And to the whole Art Team as always your arts is spectacular and is the envy of all the other distros.. JBG -- Viking-Ice One of my gods has a hammer your's was nailed to a cross You do the math! From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Wed May 6 23:43:46 2009 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 20:43:46 -0300 Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <4A021A9D.9010101@hi.is> References: <4A01D8A9.2040503@projetofedora.org> <144280.41888.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01E1E3.8040901@projetofedora.org> <186445.58538.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01F0B4.1000501@projetofedora.org> <963293.91593.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <27a6293b0905061505q68aff30dp52de2bacb88042ae@mail.gmail.com> <4A021A9D.9010101@hi.is> Message-ID: <4A0220B2.4020107@projetofedora.org> Hi JBG! I'm a Gnu/Linux user since 1996 and Fedora user since Fedora 1. So, I know how can I change my wallpaper and install packages, thanks :-) After the ugly "Windows XP Like" wallpaper and the "Blue Screen of death" without a fedora identity/relation I will keep in touch in this list to give the US$0,02 of our community (Latam/Brazil). Best regards! -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com J?hann B. Gu?mundsson escreveu: > Firstly > > it's already to late in the release cycle to start demanding some kind > of vote or voting system. > > Secondly > > Participate or monitor to this list from the beginning of the release > cycle to be up2date on what's happening > and why things are being done the way they are being done. > > If you are unable to do that start reading the mailing lists archives > before posting a topic to prevent reoccurring threads. > > If you have something to add added to that thread. > > ( If the topic reoccurred reply to the thread with a link to the > original thread ) > > Thirdly This decision has been made and it's final ( at least for this > release cycle ) > > Fourthly > > The background with the lion did not get sent to /dev/null If you want > the lion open up a terminal and run > > su -c 'rpm -Uhv > http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/leonidas-backgrounds/10.93.0/1.fc11/noarch/leonidas-backgrounds-10.93.0-1.fc11.noarch.rpm > http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/leonidas-backgrounds/10.93.0/1.fc11/noarch/leonidas-backgrounds-common-10.93.0-1.fc11.noarch.rpm > --oldpackage && echo "exclude=leonidas-backgrounds > leonidas-backgrounds-common" >> /etc/yum.conf' > > If the background with the lion will be provided as an add on then just > open up a terminal window and run > > yum -y install $package > > Then select that background from the list from available backgrounds. > > ( Ye might wanna add that to the release-notes for those that want the > lion ) > > M?ir?n Duffy you are doing great job and are an excellent leader don't > let the nature of mailing lists > put you off balance just build an immune system :). > > And to the whole Art Team as always your arts is spectacular and is the > envy of all the other distros.. > > JBG > From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Wed May 6 23:42:48 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 16:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fw: hey look a shirt In-Reply-To: <20090506225157.GA15126@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> References: <64135.42996.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090506202905.GB3398@hovercraft.mobile.ianweller.org> <116950.25256.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090506225157.GA15126@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> Message-ID: <148930.40052.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > Do you mean the infinity logo or the words? We've had the infinity logo > on that blue just fine in the past. On a solid blue... ~m From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Wed May 6 23:50:02 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 16:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <4A021BD8.6090903@projetofedora.org> References: <4A01D8A9.2040503@projetofedora.org> <144280.41888.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01E1E3.8040901@projetofedora.org> <186445.58538.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01F0B4.1000501@projetofedora.org> <963293.91593.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A021BD8.6090903@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <45431.10294.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > We need to change, of corse, but we need to improve, to grow up. Yes, that's the point. > Release by release the artwork team has done this job better and better. > > IMHO the Fedora 11 artwork, codename and slogan isn't going in the same > way. All decisions was very confuse and troubled. How are we doing better and better if our decisions are confused and troubled? Also, how have our decisions not been confused and troubled all along? Seriously? > > Ultimately, as the team lead of the art team, I am responsible for when these > decisions have to be made. > > I am the person who has to stay up all night and work to make > deadlines, giving up my free time up to get things done when it isn't > getting done. > > This is a role I truly do not enjoy, as it seems that the artwork is > ALWAYS controversial, release after release. > > There is no way to satisfy everyone with the artwork. > > When one person is happy, there are 5 others who are upset about it. > >Change things to make those 5 people happy,then there are 20 more who > are unhappy > > Your arguments confirm my arguments. If we have troubles and > controversies release by release, the process is not good enough and we > need to improve. > > I'm working in the Fedora Project since 2005 as contributor > (translation, documentation, free media, events, support, infra, fedora > latam, fedora education and others projects) and some decisions makes > our job more hard, I know! I think we are all completely open to suggestions. Do you have ideas on how to improve? Are you willing to put in the time, effort, and commitment needed to sell those ideas and make them happen? > Good, but, we have millions of users. Using a open process (voting > system) we can take the feedback/opinions from a large community and not > from 15 people only. I don't really think a voting system is a good solution. Just in our little team we had problems with the abuse of the account system. How are we going to police that Fedora-wide? Every release art team members poll folks in IRC, on planet.fedora, in Fedora forums to get our users' feedback. I do not understand why this isn't sufficient. It's not sufficient because it doesn't agree with YOUR personal opinion? We need a vote because the way things ended up wasn't to YOUR personal tastes? > 99% of our users use icons/files/folders only in the left side of the > Desktop.(Warren, please move your icons to the left side of the screen > :-) ). We could change the lion colors, brightness, we dont need to > remove the Lion. Sometimes moving icons is not a choice. Right now I have over 100 files on my desktop. That is how I work. I am not going to change the way I interact fundamentally with my desktop to accomodate a wallpaper design. I will simply use a different wallpaper and be annoyed at having to do so. > > Using this blue lion variation > http://mola.fedorapeople.org/gimp/mairin/change_to_blue_006-1.jpg the > Warren's icons can stay in the right site of the screnn and we can have > a GREAT, BEAUTIFUL, BLUE, WITH LION wallpaper. We will NOT use a wallpaper with a picture of me on it. That's not even funny. > > We have time to do it ? Have you looked at the Fedora schedule at all? > > >> If this process is open, clear and etc why these members, member of this > >> list don't knew about this decision ? > > If they were following the list, they would have as documented above. If > Samuele, Maria, and Jayme have issues I would rather hear from them directly > than second hand, okay? I saw Samuele's message about the changes and after the > discussion that had ensured I had thought the confusion had been cleared up. I > have not heard from either Maria or Jayme about their concerns as of yet so that > is news to me. > >> For me this decision impacts all users/contributors/ambassadors, but the > >> decision isn't clear and isn't open! > > > > You tell me how it isn't open after reading the threads above. > > > Isn't open enough! We need to ask and invite users, contributors and > ambassadors to vote. Did you actually read the threads above? Are you volunteering to "ask and invite users, contributors, and ambassadors to vote" ? Were you aware that we regularly poll users in a variety of forums already? Would you like to help us do more for F12? > > >> Samule saved us again, this time from a Windows XP Like wallpaper, but, > >> unfortunately the beautiful wallpaper was ripped! > >> > >> Our artwork team is great and is doing a GREAT JOB, but, we need to > >> improve the decision process. > > > > If anyone would like to step up as art team leader, please let me know, as I > no longer wish to hold the position. > > > > You are a great designer and is doing a great job with your team! > > Don't take it personal. The problem isn't with you, is with the process! I'm not taking anything personally. I don't want the drama anymore. I'm happy contributing artwork and I am not happy dealing with threads like this. I'd rather go for a walk outside. ~m From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Wed May 6 23:56:20 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 16:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <27a6293b0905061505q68aff30dp52de2bacb88042ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A01D8A9.2040503@projetofedora.org> <144280.41888.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01E1E3.8040901@projetofedora.org> <186445.58538.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01F0B4.1000501@projetofedora.org> <963293.91593.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <27a6293b0905061505q68aff30dp52de2bacb88042ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <746215.22998.qm@web50907.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Mar?a Leandro > > Just because things were done one way in the past doesn't mean that way was > the best way or the way to go now. As has been discussed on this list > extensively over the past couple of years, we're looking to tone down the > artwork a lot more and make it a bit more elegant and not > knock-you-over-the-head-with-something-thematic-in-every-single-available-space-used-for-artwork. > > I think that we were fine with the F6, F7 and F8 wallpapers; and the > change was a little bit too hard. I said this before and is my > personal opinion. I send some test in the past but I was really > working with other issues. Besides my English isn't so good, and > sometimes I just don't want to give an answer for not make a mistake. I do not think we were fine because we got many vehement arguments against what we did with F6-F8 so it seemed worth trying something different. > > The last time we did a vote was a disaster. We were getting multiple art team > FAS group requests daily from people who wanted to vote. Too bad we don't > normally get that many requests from people who actually want to help produce > artwork. > > There are a lot of solutions for this. For example, take the voting in > 2 sections: > > 60% of the current art team > 40% of a free vote If we can't even police a vote with just the art team, how are we going to police something Fedora-wide? I think the artwork vote is going to be something people are going to sign up for accounts just to participate in. > Is really important to get the users opinions. They will use fedora > and the artwork (for me) is one of the most important issues. The > users (noobs or pro) will see the wallpaper everyday, this is really > important. We already get users' opinions. We've made many of the changes that occurred during this cycle because of feedback from users. > >> I'm talking constantly with Maria Leandro, Jayme and more recently > >> Samuele and nobody knew about the changes and decisions taked about the > >> wallpaper/Lion. > > > > Ultimately, as the team lead of the art team, I am responsible for when these > decisions have to be made. I am the person who has to stay up all night and work > to make deadlines, giving up my free time up to get things done when it isn't > getting done. This is a role I truly do not enjoy, as it seems that the artwork > is ALWAYS controversial, release after release. There is no way to satisfy > everyone with the artwork. When one person is happy, there are 5 others who are > upset about it. Change things to make those 5 people happy, then there are 20 > more who are unhappy. > > > > We all do that Mairin. In different ways we all give something from > our lives to the project. Is true that you take the mayor > responsibility and always there is a group of persons who never get > satisfied, but there are ways to know if the artwork (in this case) > goes on the right line. Like I said, polls, interviews, comments, free > suggestions need to be done frequently. By saying that I am working late nights on this stuff when I don't want to is not in any way an attempt to discount the hard work everyone else does. I am just trying to illustrate being in a hard position that I do not want to be in. We do polls and interviews and talk to people. For example, David Leray did a study of the fedora-fr forum users (https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00070.html). I did a survey on my blog early on. We had a lot of users bringing up comments and feedback about the artwork here on list and in the IRC channels. If you think we need to do more, who will do it? How much more do we need? How frequently? Do you have a plan in mind? > > If they were following the list, they would have as documented above. If > Samuele, Maria, and Jayme have issues I would rather hear from them directly > than second hand, okay? I saw Samuele's message about the changes and after the > discussion that had ensured I had thought the confusion had been cleared up. I > have not heard from either Maria or Jayme about their concerns as of yet so that > is news to me. > > I think this isn't necessary. This is not like "who say and who didn't > read a thread". Is right that I hasn't been reading every thread of > the Fedora11 discussion; my mistake.; I also have a huge > responsibility working on a lot of LATAM events, on Spanish artwork, > Users support for new users, working on several things of the Design > Service, and more. We're all busy. It's not fair though, to say that a decision was not made in the open when it WAS made in the open and you were simply not listening. > > If anyone would like to step up as art team leader, please let me know, as I > no longer wish to hold the position. > > > > We need a lot of new ideas; more people working on themes. I've seen > that in the past 2 versions, people don't send many artwork as they > did before. This is the point that we need to take care; I'm really > sure that if we recruit a new group of people we'll get the work done > in time. > > And if the people won't join the Art team, we can make a poll... and > if not, we can make a contest... and if not, we can make a public > brainstorm... and if not.... Who is going to do these things? ~m From ian at ianweller.org Thu May 7 00:44:32 2009 From: ian at ianweller.org (Ian Weller) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 19:44:32 -0500 Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <963293.91593.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <4A01D8A9.2040503@projetofedora.org> <144280.41888.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01E1E3.8040901@projetofedora.org> <186445.58538.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01F0B4.1000501@projetofedora.org> <963293.91593.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090507004432.GB15126@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 02:26:05PM -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > > Samule saved us again, this time from a Windows XP Like wallpaper, but, > > unfortunately the beautiful wallpaper was ripped! > > > > Our artwork team is great and is doing a GREAT JOB, but, we need to > > improve the decision process. > > If anyone would like to step up as art team leader, please let me know, as I no longer wish to hold the position. > Rodrigo, please end this argument now. M?ir?n alone has answered every point you have brought up on this list with a rational argument that has been agreed upon with consensus previously on this list. Fedora is not a democracy as you would like it to be. Fedora is a meritocracy. Those who do things have more clout in how things are done. For example, M?ir?n has spent a multitude of very late nights working on wallpaper for deadline since I've started contributing. The decision process works, we have reached a consensus of many Art Team members, and raising trivial complaints similar to yours this late in the development cycle will not get things done. Thank you for ending this argument and realizing that you have a choice to add the lion back to the wallpaper yourself. You might also be interested in this essay: http://fpaste.org/paste/11201 -- Ian Weller GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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M?ir?n alone has answered every > point you have brought up on this list with a rational argument that has > been agreed upon with consensus previously on this list. > > Fedora is not a democracy as you would like it to be. Fedora is a > meritocracy. Those who do things have more clout in how things are done. > For example, M?ir?n has spent a multitude of very late nights working on > wallpaper for deadline since I've started contributing. > > Thank you for ending this argument and realizing that you have a choice > to add the lion back to the wallpaper yourself. You might also be > interested in this essay: http://fpaste.org/paste/11201 Sometimes meritocracy sounds like autocracy in the Fedora Project. Talking about meritocracy, the King Concept wallpaper was made by "Samuele THE GREAT" to save us from the Greek Concept "Windows Xp based" and his job was ripped without consensus! Take a look: Fedora 11 Wallpaper - Life Cycle 1 - First we had a Greek Concept Wallpaper. 2 - Second we had a King Concept Wallpaper. 3 - Now we have only a Wallpaper, without Greek, without King and without a CONCEPT. That's the point! What's the concept used to take/define the "consensus"? -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Thu May 7 05:22:52 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:22:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <4A024D8C.2070406@projetofedora.org> References: <4A01D8A9.2040503@projetofedora.org> <144280.41888.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01E1E3.8040901@projetofedora.org> <186445.58538.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01F0B4.1000501@projetofedora.org> <963293.91593.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090507004432.GB15126@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> <4A024D8C.2070406@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <797253.2954.qm@web50906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira > > Sometimes meritocracy sounds like autocracy in the Fedora Project. > > Talking about meritocracy, the King Concept wallpaper was made by > "Samuele THE GREAT" to save us from the Greek Concept "Windows Xp based" > and his job was ripped without consensus! > > Take a look: > > Fedora 11 Wallpaper - Life Cycle > > 1 - First we had a Greek Concept Wallpaper. > 2 - Second we had a King Concept Wallpaper. > 3 - Now we have only a Wallpaper, without Greek, without King and > without a CONCEPT. > > That's the point! What's the concept used to take/define the "consensus"? > You obviously did not read through the threads I took the time to dig up for you and instead you appear to prefer to remain incendiary and irrational. I will remember this the next time I consider taking time out of my busy day to provide thorough answers to your questions. This thread is done. If you have concerns over the governance of the Fedora Art Team please take them to the board. ~m From neugens at limasoftware.net Wed May 6 17:58:56 2009 From: neugens at limasoftware.net (Mario Torre) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 19:58:56 +0200 Subject: hey look a shirt In-Reply-To: <20090506043653.GA10197@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> References: <20090506043653.GA10197@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> Message-ID: <1241632736.3819.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Il giorno mar, 05/05/2009 alle 23.37 -0500, Ian Weller ha scritto: > splatter v2.0. > > http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/fedora-splatter.png > > SVG source is http://ianweller.fedorapeople.org/fedora-splatter.svg. > i'll upload to wiki tomorrow unless someone wants to do that for me and > replace the current ones. > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/T-Shirt#Fedora_Splatter > > it needs cleaned up a tad bit before production but it should be better > for screenprinting than the previous ones. I like it :) Mario From neugens at limasoftware.net Wed May 6 18:03:29 2009 From: neugens at limasoftware.net (Mario Torre) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 20:03:29 +0200 Subject: hey look a shirt In-Reply-To: <1241632736.3819.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090506043653.GA10197@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> <1241632736.3819.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1241633009.3819.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Il giorno mer, 06/05/2009 alle 19.58 +0200, Mario Torre ha scritto: > I like it :) In fact, it could be better if even the fedora logo could also be "splatted", don't know if this is possible though. Mario From jaa at redhat.com Wed May 6 18:06:32 2009 From: jaa at redhat.com (Jack Aboutboul) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 14:06:32 -0400 Subject: hey look a shirt In-Reply-To: <1241633009.3819.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090506043653.GA10197@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> <1241632736.3819.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1241633009.3819.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A01D1A8.9030002@redhat.com> Mario Torre wrote: > Il giorno mer, 06/05/2009 alle 19.58 +0200, Mario Torre ha scritto: > > >> I like it :) >> > > In fact, it could be better if even the fedora logo could also be > "splatted", don't know if this is possible though. > > Mario > > > heh, probably against logo guidelines. jack From cmpahar at gmail.com Wed May 6 23:02:14 2009 From: cmpahar at gmail.com (Christos Bacharakis) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 02:02:14 +0300 Subject: Fw: hey look a shirt In-Reply-To: <20090506225157.GA15126@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> References: <64135.42996.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090506202905.GB3398@hovercraft.mobile.ianweller.org> <116950.25256.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090506225157.GA15126@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> Message-ID: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Ian Weller wrote: > On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 02:02:07PM -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > > From: Ian Weller > > > > > I think that on a shirt medium with screenprinting this won't be a > > > problem as the white text will likely "pop out" more than it does on a > > > computer monitor. > > > > What about the logo mark? > > I'm just concerned about the implications for the logo usage > guidelines... > > > Do you mean the infinity logo or the words? 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URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Thu May 7 06:38:15 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 09:38:15 +0300 Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <963293.91593.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <4A01D8A9.2040503@projetofedora.org> <144280.41888.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01E1E3.8040901@projetofedora.org> <186445.58538.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01F0B4.1000501@projetofedora.org> <963293.91593.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A0281D7.40003@nicubunu.ro> On 05/07/2009 12:26 AM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > If anyone would like to step up as art team leader, please let me know, as I no longer wish to hold the position. Mo, I understand why you feel like this at times, but honestly I don't know anyone who would be able to assume this position and also be recognized as such *inside* or *outside* of the team. So please, have a walk in the park, have some fun time and maybe you will find enough new energy. As for the wallpaper problem, here is my proposed solution, hope the schedule still allow it: include the right screen (the lion head) in the default package, so those wanting it don't have to download additional stuff, have only to click on "Change Desktop Background" (as we had with the temple image). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From sstorari at byte-code.com Thu May 7 08:22:30 2009 From: sstorari at byte-code.com (Samuele Storari) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 10:22:30 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <2733026.7801241684399589.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <1621670876.7901241684550632.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Hi all! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicu Buculei" To: "Fedora Art List" Sent: Thursday, 7 May, 2009 08:38:15 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Re: Wallpaper On 05/07/2009 12:26 AM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > If anyone would like to step up as art team leader, please let me know, as I no longer wish to hold the position. Mo, I understand why you feel like this at times, but honestly I don't know anyone who would be able to assume this position and also be recognized as such *inside* or *outside* of the team. So please, have a walk in the park, have some fun time and maybe you will find enough new energy. As I said before I didn't agree with the decision the take off the lion but it's only my personal idea, I received an explanation why it was taken away, it don't sounds good for me but I don't want to make an argument so I bear with it. As for the wallpaper problem, here is my proposed solution, hope the schedule still allow it: include the right screen (the lion head) in the default package, so those wanting it don't have to download additional stuff, have only to click on "Change Desktop Background" (as we had with the temple image). +1 I think this solution will works! Great idea, so users can just "click and change". Afte that I think mo your doing a great job managing the art team, and please don't take my words as an attempt to make a new-useless arguments. And thanks a lot Rodrigo for defend my concept as a piece of you, I really appreciate it, but you know as Rolling Stone sings: "You can't always get what you want...", next time maybe we can try to work and say our objection in the right time and in the right place as the "team" decided it. Samuele -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com From fedora-art at brej.org Thu May 7 09:23:11 2009 From: fedora-art at brej.org (Charlie Brej) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 10:23:11 +0100 Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <1621670876.7901241684550632.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <1621670876.7901241684550632.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <4A02A87F.9090801@brej.org> Samuele Storari wrote: > +1 I think this solution will works! Great idea, so users can just "click and change". > > Afte that I think mo your doing a great job managing the art team, and please don't take my words as an attempt to make a new-useless arguments. > And thanks a lot Rodrigo for defend my concept as a piece of you, I really appreciate it, but you know as Rolling Stone sings: "You can't always get what you want...", next time maybe we can try to work and say our objection in the right time and in the right place as the "team" decided it. I think having the default as the simple background is probably the better option, but I agree. I think we are targeting two types of users. The "I just want things to work" users who want nothing more than a working system. I sympathise with them as when I deploy a new installation on 40 user's machines, the last thing I want is someone complaining about not being able to find their icons. But we also have the "shiny shiny shiny" users who want the wow factor. Unfortunately reviewers are in the later category and all they look for is new "shinies". The number one complaint they usually have is that each distro is just like the another one. I think it is important to allow them to pimp out their desktop very easily and make each release look and feel new and unique. It should be a case similar to compiz, make it off by default but installed and trivial to turn on. (perhaps space becomes an issue) I predict that within hours of the release there will be blog entries with guides on getting the lion background. From jayme at jaymeayres.com Thu May 7 12:01:47 2009 From: jayme at jaymeayres.com (Jayme Ayres) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:01:47 -0300 Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <4A0281D7.40003@nicubunu.ro> References: <4A01D8A9.2040503@projetofedora.org> <144280.41888.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01E1E3.8040901@projetofedora.org> <186445.58538.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01F0B4.1000501@projetofedora.org> <963293.91593.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A0281D7.40003@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <64b33fc70905070501o4ff88128g88c7da3fcb552424@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/7 Nicu Buculei : > On 05/07/2009 12:26 AM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> >> If anyone would like to step up as art team leader, please let me know, as >> I no longer wish to hold the position. > > Mo, I understand why you feel like this at times, but honestly I don't know > anyone who would be able to assume this position and also be recognized as > such *inside* or *outside* of the team. > > So please, have a walk in the park, have some fun time and maybe you will > find enough new energy. > +1 > As for the wallpaper problem, here is my proposed solution, hope the > schedule still allow it: include the right screen (the lion head) in the > default package, so those wanting it don't have to download additional > stuff, have only to click on "Change Desktop Background" (as we had with the > temple image). I agree with your idea Nicu, and going beyond, we can apply an opacity in the head of the lion, for there is no such confusion in the desktop as well as Paul has mentioned in another email. I think there's a misunderstanding of thoughts in the discussion, ONLY now Rodrigo was clear in your question: Why did the lion was removed if the concept is the lion (or king whatever)? I particularly like the concept King and this is my personal opinion unfortunately, for lack of time, I couldn't participate in the discussion on whether or not the theme and still did not know that the lion had been removed. Cheers J > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ > photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com www.projetofedora.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres From martin.sourada at gmail.com Thu May 7 12:17:54 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 14:17:54 +0200 Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: <1621670876.7901241684550632.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> References: <1621670876.7901241684550632.JavaMail.root@mail.byte-code.com> Message-ID: <1241698674.1449.4.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 10:22 +0200, Samuele Storari wrote: > Hi all! Hi, > As for the wallpaper problem, here is my proposed solution, hope the > schedule still allow it: include the right screen (the lion head) in the > default package, so those wanting it don't have to download additional > stuff, have only to click on "Change Desktop Background" (as we had with > the temple image). > Given my recent time constraints this is totally down at my priority list, but yes, I am still planing on adding the right version to the package. Unless someone other do this though, I don't think I'll be able to make it in time for release. > Samuele Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you been participating in > the list when we received complaints on this particular issue and when > we made the final call on how to handle it, you could have spoken up > just as anyone else could have. Even if you were not paying attention > to the list at the time, it doesn't mean the issue wasn't discussed > openly. Rodrigo, I recognize your passion, but I must disagree with you. Mo has said it correctly. The purpose of Fedora is not to vote on all sorts of things. The purpose of Fedora is to provide a leadership model for individual teams to take ownership of tasks, and work those tasks to completion in an open, inclusive way. Discussing which of several options is "most right" is perfectly fine, but in the end decisions are made by the people in the teams who are directly doing the work, or those who are active participants. To speak directly: I am a lurker on fedora-art-list. Sometimes I say "I like this one!" but I don't expect that my voice will have any more than a minor impact, because I'm not the one designing the artwork. I think the fact that the lion is being shipped as an alternative and is default in dual-monitor settings is a good compromise of all the various ideas. --Max From hydra84 at gmail.com Fri May 8 00:35:37 2009 From: hydra84 at gmail.com (Paolo Leoni) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 02:35:37 +0200 Subject: Fedora release banners In-Reply-To: <49FE9AD6.7030207@nicubunu.ro> References: <1799f9cf0905010202t61f8f3f5j10fc87aea9b00ad@mail.gmail.com> <49FE9AD6.7030207@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1799f9cf0905071735nb32f9er9a9818309b48363d@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/4 Nicu Buculei > > The basic layout is good (maybe the placement ans size of the logo could be > better) but I think it would be an interesting idea to change the wording > somehow so it includes the F11 slogan ("Reign"). > I've two new versions, one of these includes the slogan "Reign", but I'm not sure that's ok... https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/be/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1b.png https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/0/00/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1b.svg https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/1/1d/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1c.png https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/2/2d/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1c.svg 2009/5/5 Paul W. Frields >>Re: >>http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-websites-list/2009-May/msg00009.html >>Does this banner need to be translated under the websites freeze? >>That freeze date is listed as today or tomorrow. I see one version >>has the text "available for download now" -- if we plan to use it, >>we'd want that text to be included in the website data that's frozen >>for translation. The version with the text is only a proposal, I think we can use a version without text strings if needed. -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri May 8 07:14:32 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 10:14:32 +0300 Subject: Fedora release banners In-Reply-To: <1799f9cf0905071735nb32f9er9a9818309b48363d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1799f9cf0905010202t61f8f3f5j10fc87aea9b00ad@mail.gmail.com> <49FE9AD6.7030207@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905071735nb32f9er9a9818309b48363d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A03DBD8.5070900@nicubunu.ro> On 05/08/2009 03:35 AM, Paolo Leoni wrote: > 2009/5/4 Nicu Buculei > The basic layout is good (maybe the placement ans size of the logo > could be better) but I think it would be an interesting idea to > change the wording somehow so it includes the F11 slogan ("Reign"). > > > I've two new versions, one of these includes the slogan "Reign", but I'm > not sure that's ok... > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/be/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1b.png > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/0/00/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1b.svg Without the word "fedora" or the logo, I am afraid this one can work only for insiders, everybody else will not know what it is about. > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/1/1d/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1c.png > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/2/2d/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1c.svg This one I think is a bit too plain: wile having a simple default wallpaper (with no lion) is good for usability, is not the same for a banner, which should grab the eye. So the lion here is a good thing. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri May 8 08:26:54 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 11:26:54 +0300 Subject: MgOpen fonts upstream website / help from a Greek speaker needed Message-ID: <4A03ECCE.1040405@nicubunu.ro> I tried to solve this by myself using online translation tools, but I wasn't able to get a solution, some help from a Greek speaker would be useful. On the Logo Usage Guideline wiki page we mention MgOpen Modata as teh "complementary font" and link to the upstream website, to a page which is not working any more: http://www.ellak.gr/fonts/mgopen/index.en.html Unfortunately the website had a major redesign, probably the page was moved, but the text is Greek and I wasn't able to figure it. The content of the page is available elsewhere, but that seems to be a copy, not a proper upstream: http://www.zvr.gr/typo/mgopen/index I think is useful to update our wiki with working links. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From hydra84 at gmail.com Fri May 8 14:29:52 2009 From: hydra84 at gmail.com (Paolo Leoni) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:29:52 +0200 Subject: Fedora release banners In-Reply-To: <4A03DBD8.5070900@nicubunu.ro> References: <1799f9cf0905010202t61f8f3f5j10fc87aea9b00ad@mail.gmail.com> <49FE9AD6.7030207@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905071735nb32f9er9a9818309b48363d@mail.gmail.com> <4A03DBD8.5070900@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1799f9cf0905080729ya1cabc6ka312c2c0cf93ab2@mail.gmail.com> In this case I think that version "1" is the best until now. But about your proposal for the slogan, I'm in "trouble" because I don't know how make it in the banner without render it too "plenty" of stuff... 2009/5/8 Nicu Buculei > On 05/08/2009 03:35 AM, Paolo Leoni wrote: > >> 2009/5/4 Nicu Buculei >> The basic layout is good (maybe the placement ans size of the logo >> could be better) but I think it would be an interesting idea to >> change the wording somehow so it includes the F11 slogan ("Reign"). >> >> >> I've two new versions, one of these includes the slogan "Reign", but I'm >> not sure that's ok... >> >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/be/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1b.png >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/0/00/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1b.svg >> > > Without the word "fedora" or the logo, I am afraid this one can work only > for insiders, everybody else will not know what it is about. > > >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/1/1d/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1c.png >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/2/2d/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1c.svg >> > > This one I think is a bit too plain: wile having a simple default wallpaper > (with no lion) is good for usability, is not the same for a banner, which > should grab the eye. 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URL: From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri May 8 14:35:00 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 17:35:00 +0300 Subject: Fedora release banners In-Reply-To: <1799f9cf0905080729ya1cabc6ka312c2c0cf93ab2@mail.gmail.com> References: <1799f9cf0905010202t61f8f3f5j10fc87aea9b00ad@mail.gmail.com> <49FE9AD6.7030207@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905071735nb32f9er9a9818309b48363d@mail.gmail.com> <4A03DBD8.5070900@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905080729ya1cabc6ka312c2c0cf93ab2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A044314.90203@nicubunu.ro> On 05/08/2009 05:29 PM, Paolo Leoni wrote: > In this case I think that version "1" is the best until now. But about > your proposal for the slogan, I'm in "trouble" because I don't know how > make it in the banner without render it too "plenty" of stuff... No worry, it was just a suggestion, we use it only if we can fit it properly in the design. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From herlo1 at gmail.com Fri May 8 16:50:02 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 10:50:02 -0600 Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro> References: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 04/29/2009 10:23 PM, Clint Savage wrote: >> >> I wanted to bring this up since it affects my ability to order and >> deliver F11 media to ambassadors and community members. >> >> According to John Poelstra's task list for the Fedora Art team [1], we >> should be starting the design for the Sleeves and disc labels. Here's >> the information: >> >> Create DVD/CD label and sleeve artwork ? ? ? ? ?Start: Tue 2009-04-28 >> Due: >> Tue 2009-05-12 ? ? ? ? ?Duration: 14days >> >> So with that, I'd like to get the conversation started and see what we >> want to do for the sleeves, design wise. > > A little bit ago Susmit showed his interest about working on this: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00052.html > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ > photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ > It appears this conversation died, however the deadline is fast approaching. I can create something based upon the lion design, but I think Someone else (Samuele, Mo, Nicu, etc.) is probably more capable than I. Could someone please pick this up and get a draft ready before Monday? If not, I'll see what I can do next week as I am fairly busy these days :/ Cheers, Clint From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri May 8 16:55:26 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 22:25:26 +0530 Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro> References: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: Hi, > A little bit ago Susmit showed his interest about working on this: > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00052.html That's true. Unfortunately, I am unable to commit time right now. My sincere appologise for letting this down. :( -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Mumbai, Maharashtra, India From ian at ianweller.org Fri May 8 20:56:47 2009 From: ian at ianweller.org (Ian Weller) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 15:56:47 -0500 Subject: MgOpen fonts upstream website / help from a Greek speaker needed In-Reply-To: <4A03ECCE.1040405@nicubunu.ro> References: <4A03ECCE.1040405@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <20090508205647.GA8397@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 11:26:54AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > I tried to solve this by myself using online translation tools, but I > wasn't able to get a solution, some help from a Greek speaker would be > useful. > > On the Logo Usage Guideline wiki page we mention MgOpen Modata as teh > "complementary font" and link to the upstream website, to a page which is > not working any more: http://www.ellak.gr/fonts/mgopen/index.en.html > > Unfortunately the website had a major redesign, probably the page was > moved, but the text is Greek and I wasn't able to figure it. > > The content of the page is available elsewhere, but that seems to be a > copy, not a proper upstream: http://www.zvr.gr/typo/mgopen/index > > I think is useful to update our wiki with working links. > This looks like the new upstream page. Links to the font faces are dead though. http://www.ellak.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6493 -- Ian Weller GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stickster at gmail.com Fri May 8 22:47:40 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 18:47:40 -0400 Subject: Wallpaper In-Reply-To: References: <4A01D8A9.2040503@projetofedora.org> <144280.41888.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A01E1E3.8040901@projetofedora.org> <186445.58538.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090508224740.GP4080@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 07:09:35PM +0200, Max Spevack wrote: > On Wed, 6 May 2009, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > >> This is an extremely open design team. We openly discuss our methods >> and our decisions, and we make our source artwork available in open >> formats using open licenses so anyone who wants to participate, extend, >> or build on our work can easily. If you been participating in the list >> when we received complaints on this particular issue and when we made >> the final call on how to handle it, you could have spoken up just as >> anyone else could have. Even if you were not paying attention to the >> list at the time, it doesn't mean the issue wasn't discussed openly. > > Rodrigo, I recognize your passion, but I must disagree with you. > > Mo has said it correctly. > > The purpose of Fedora is not to vote on all sorts of things. The purpose > of Fedora is to provide a leadership model for individual teams to take > ownership of tasks, and work those tasks to completion in an open, > inclusive way. And I think it's worth pointing out that the whole reason we have a different theme now, as opposed to the landscape originally being worked for F11, is precisely *because* the open process allowed someone to bring in a new idea. Did it occur late in the process? Yes. But people committed to working on many of the design pieces needed, which created a clear consensus. > Discussing which of several options is "most right" is perfectly fine, > but in the end decisions are made by the people in the teams who are > directly doing the work, or those who are active participants. > > To speak directly: I am a lurker on fedora-art-list. Sometimes I say "I > like this one!" but I don't expect that my voice will have any more than > a minor impact, because I'm not the one designing the artwork. > > I think the fact that the lion is being shipped as an alternative and is > default in dual-monitor settings is a good compromise of all the various > ideas. Absolutely. As someone who observed for himself the issues with interaction between desktop icons and the lion design, I think it was the correct decision. I would also like everyone here to remember that the decisions we make always have ramifications. It is impossible to lead, in any pursuit, and expect to make every single person happy all the time, no matter how much we'd like it if that was the case. I try to expect that reaction, listen thoughtfully, and do the best I can to at least achieve understanding. Where that isn't possible, I leave the conversation knowing that I've done the best I can, and accept that I cannot provide perfect happiness to everyone -- it's out of my control. Mo, Nicu, Samuele, Paolo, and many other people (please forgive me if I didn't list all names, it's only because of my imperfect, human, aging brain) continue to do an exceptional job making Fedora look BEAUTIFUL, working as a team. Art never pleases everyone, and we can continue to look for ways to improve while peacefully accepting that. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From martin.sourada at gmail.com Sat May 9 09:47:01 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 11:47:01 +0200 Subject: Leonidas - Lion for single screens Message-ID: <1241862421.9376.18.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Hi all, 'thanks' to me catching flu and having to spend whole days in bed, I decided I'd use some of that spare time on adding the lion images for single screens. I've just built the updated lion-backgrounds package. If as many people as possible could test it before Monday it would be great (I'll blog about it as well to get more attention). This is needed because I'd like it to be tagged for release (so that people won't have to d/l MBs of data just because we added some images) - and that means I need to request freeze break and given the time, I'll need to be very much sure that it does not break anything anywhere. Note, it won't be probably installed by default, especially on Live Spins where each MiB of free space makes difference... Now, how can you test it. The packages in questions are: * leonidas-backgrounds, leonidas-backgrounds-common and leonidas-backgrounds-lion-dual for the default design * leonidas-backgrounds-lion and leonidas-backgrounds-lion-dual for the lion on single screens * leonidas-backgrounds-landscape for the Beta wallpapers and you can get them from koji [1]. Thanks, Martin References: [1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=101491 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That doesn't make much sense. I don't have a dual screen and I just want to install the background for the single screen. Rahul From martin.sourada at gmail.com Sat May 9 11:41:37 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 13:41:37 +0200 Subject: Leonidas - Lion for single screens In-Reply-To: <4A056BC5.1020504@fedoraproject.org> References: <1241862421.9376.18.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <4A056BC5.1020504@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <1241869297.9376.21.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 17:10 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/09/2009 03:17 PM, Martin Sourada wrote: > > > Now, how can you test it. The packages in questions are: > > > > * leonidas-backgrounds, leonidas-backgrounds-common and > > leonidas-backgrounds-lion-dual for the default design > > * leonidas-backgrounds-lion and leonidas-backgrounds-lion-dual for > > the lion on single screens > > * leonidas-backgrounds-landscape for the Beta wallpapers > > > > and you can get them from koji [1]. > > leonidas-background-dual is needed by leonidas-background-lion? That > doesn't make much sense. I don't have a dual screen and I just want to > install the background for the single screen. > Yep, that's because we ship the backgrounds via all-sizes xml (e.g. /usr/share/backgrounds/leonidas/leonidas.xml) so that correct ratio is always used. I don't know of a better way. > Rahul > Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This is needed > because I'd like it to be tagged for release (so that people won't have > to d/l MBs of data just because we added some images) - and that means I > need to request freeze break and given the time, I'll need to be very > much sure that it does not break anything anywhere. Thanks again for these. Its not a big deal but on the widescreeen version, would it be possible to not crop the top and bottom and instead expand to the left? Take original 4096x1536, scale to 3200x1200, then crop to 1920x1200. Comparison attached. This makes a smaller, but fuller lion with all its hair (on the chin too). As I said, its not a big deal. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This is needed > because I'd like it to be tagged for release (so that people won't have > to d/l MBs of data just because we added some images) - and that means I > need to request freeze break and given the time, I'll need to be very > much sure that it does not break anything anywhere. > > Note, it won't be probably installed by default, especially on Live > Spins where each MiB of free space makes difference... > > Now, how can you test it. The packages in questions are: > > * leonidas-backgrounds, leonidas-backgrounds-common and > leonidas-backgrounds-lion-dual for the default design > * leonidas-backgrounds-lion and leonidas-backgrounds-lion-dual for > the lion on single screens > * leonidas-backgrounds-landscape for the Beta wallpapers > > and you can get them from koji [1]. Hi Martin, I'll try to prepare update KDE wallpaper theme to conform with this change (I hoped someone prepare single screen lion as second theme :-) Hope today or Sunday to let it try people before Monday so then it's possible to ask releng to break freeze together. Thanks Jaroslav > Thanks, > Martin > > References: > [1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=101491 From hydra84 at gmail.com Sat May 9 15:45:38 2009 From: hydra84 at gmail.com (Paolo Leoni) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 17:45:38 +0200 Subject: Fedora release banners In-Reply-To: <4A044314.90203@nicubunu.ro> References: <1799f9cf0905010202t61f8f3f5j10fc87aea9b00ad@mail.gmail.com> <49FE9AD6.7030207@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905071735nb32f9er9a9818309b48363d@mail.gmail.com> <4A03DBD8.5070900@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905080729ya1cabc6ka312c2c0cf93ab2@mail.gmail.com> <4A044314.90203@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1799f9cf0905090845s7f2d74f5q1d78b0cd62b809dc@mail.gmail.com> I propose you also a draft of "big" version for F11 release banner: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/c/c6/Fedora11-released-banner-big_1.png https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/6/63/Fedora11-released-banner-big_1.svg Please note that I taken the boot screenshot from F11 preview, is this the definitve plymouth appearance? Anyway it can be easy modified. -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mclasen at redhat.com Sat May 9 15:53:15 2009 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 11:53:15 -0400 Subject: Leonidas - Lion for single screens In-Reply-To: <1241862421.9376.18.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> References: <1241862421.9376.18.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <1241884395.2314.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 11:47 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > Hi all, > > 'thanks' to me catching flu and having to spend whole days in bed, I > decided I'd use some of that spare time on adding the lion images for > single screens. Are we talking about adding the lion back to the default single-width background, or is this a separate image ? I must admit that I think the background we have now works better without the huge lion on it... Matthias From michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com Sat May 9 16:01:31 2009 From: michael.d.beckwith at gmail.com (Michael Beckwith) Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 11:01:31 -0500 Subject: Leonidas - Lion for single screens In-Reply-To: <1241884395.2314.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1241862421.9376.18.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <1241884395.2314.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A05A8DB.4050709@gmail.com> Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 11:47 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> 'thanks' to me catching flu and having to spend whole days in bed, I >> decided I'd use some of that spare time on adding the lion images for >> single screens. >> > > Are we talking about adding the lion back to the default single-width > background, or is this a separate image ? I must admit that I think the > background we have now works better without the huge lion on it... > > > Matthias > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > It'd be an extra one available, but not the default enabled one. Personally, since I run fluxbox on top of gnome, desktop icons aren't going to be a huge issue for me, I'd just want to move conky back to the left side of the screen. However, that's just my workflow and I'll accommodate appropriately on my own. -- ~Michael http://michaelbox.net From ricky at fedoraproject.org Sat May 9 21:46:39 2009 From: ricky at fedoraproject.org (Ricky Zhou) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 17:46:39 -0400 Subject: Fedora release banners In-Reply-To: <1799f9cf0905090845s7f2d74f5q1d78b0cd62b809dc@mail.gmail.com> References: <1799f9cf0905010202t61f8f3f5j10fc87aea9b00ad@mail.gmail.com> <49FE9AD6.7030207@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905071735nb32f9er9a9818309b48363d@mail.gmail.com> <4A03DBD8.5070900@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905080729ya1cabc6ka312c2c0cf93ab2@mail.gmail.com> <4A044314.90203@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905090845s7f2d74f5q1d78b0cd62b809dc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090509214639.GA1831@alpha.rzhou.org> On 2009-05-09 05:45:38 PM, Paolo Leoni wrote: > I propose you also a draft of "big" version for F11 release banner: > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/c/c6/Fedora11-released-banner-big_1.png > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/6/63/Fedora11-released-banner-big_1.svg I like the layout a lot, but I think the shadow on the logo and 11 might be a bit too strong. 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Different question would be whether would we want this in some of the spins or install DVD in addition to the default one (which I don't think so). > > Matthias > Martin From ian at ianweller.org Sun May 10 00:35:57 2009 From: ian at ianweller.org (Ian Weller) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 19:35:57 -0500 Subject: Fedora release banners In-Reply-To: <20090509214639.GA1831@alpha.rzhou.org> References: <1799f9cf0905010202t61f8f3f5j10fc87aea9b00ad@mail.gmail.com> <49FE9AD6.7030207@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905071735nb32f9er9a9818309b48363d@mail.gmail.com> <4A03DBD8.5070900@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905080729ya1cabc6ka312c2c0cf93ab2@mail.gmail.com> <4A044314.90203@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905090845s7f2d74f5q1d78b0cd62b809dc@mail.gmail.com> <20090509214639.GA1831@alpha.rzhou.org> Message-ID: <20090510003501.GB14354@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 05:46:39PM -0400, Ricky Zhou wrote: > On 2009-05-09 05:45:38 PM, Paolo Leoni wrote: > > I propose you also a draft of "big" version for F11 release banner: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/c/c6/Fedora11-released-banner-big_1.png > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/6/63/Fedora11-released-banner-big_1.svg > I like the layout a lot, but I think the shadow on the logo and 11 might > be a bit too strong. Also, just to make sure, is the gradient on the > logo within the logo usage guidelines? > The gradient in the logo is fine. The shadows on the logo and the '11' are waaaaay too dark. See the most recent large release image on the current fp.o for an example of what it should look like. -- Ian Weller GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From hydra84 at gmail.com Sun May 10 08:38:23 2009 From: hydra84 at gmail.com (Paolo Leoni) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 10:38:23 +0200 Subject: Fedora release banners In-Reply-To: <20090510003501.GB14354@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> References: <1799f9cf0905010202t61f8f3f5j10fc87aea9b00ad@mail.gmail.com> <49FE9AD6.7030207@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905071735nb32f9er9a9818309b48363d@mail.gmail.com> <4A03DBD8.5070900@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905080729ya1cabc6ka312c2c0cf93ab2@mail.gmail.com> <4A044314.90203@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905090845s7f2d74f5q1d78b0cd62b809dc@mail.gmail.com> <20090509214639.GA1831@alpha.rzhou.org> <20090510003501.GB14354@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> Message-ID: <1799f9cf0905100138t2e736e9et16060de8f21e3c81@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/10 Ian Weller > > The gradient in the logo is fine. The shadows on the logo and the '11' > are waaaaay too dark. See the most recent large release image on the > current fp.o for an example of what it should look like. > > > I've updated the banner with less shadows on "11" and logo: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/c/c6/Fedora11-released-banner-big_1.png https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/6/63/Fedora11-released-banner-big_1.svg -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stickster at gmail.com Sun May 10 14:30:09 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 10:30:09 -0400 Subject: Fedora release banners In-Reply-To: <1799f9cf0905100138t2e736e9et16060de8f21e3c81@mail.gmail.com> References: <1799f9cf0905010202t61f8f3f5j10fc87aea9b00ad@mail.gmail.com> <49FE9AD6.7030207@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905071735nb32f9er9a9818309b48363d@mail.gmail.com> <4A03DBD8.5070900@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905080729ya1cabc6ka312c2c0cf93ab2@mail.gmail.com> <4A044314.90203@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905090845s7f2d74f5q1d78b0cd62b809dc@mail.gmail.com> <20090509214639.GA1831@alpha.rzhou.org> <20090510003501.GB14354@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> <1799f9cf0905100138t2e736e9et16060de8f21e3c81@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090510143009.GB3447@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 10:38:23AM +0200, Paolo Leoni wrote: > 2009/5/10 Ian Weller > > The gradient in the logo is fine. The shadows on the logo and the '11' > are waaaaay too dark. See the most recent large release image on the > current fp.o for an example of what it should look like. > > > I've updated the banner with less shadows on "11" and logo: > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/c/c6/Fedora11-released-banner-big_1.png > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/6/63/Fedora11-released-banner-big_1.svg Actually, Ian's comments notwithstanding, the gradient on the logo should be removed. Where it's not necessary, we shouldn't arbitrarily change the logo appearance, since that violates the logo usage guidelines. Also, it looks like there is an update to the Plymouth boot loader that uses the "charging up" idea that was presented and favorably received here. Ray Strode labored to get this plugin included as default, so if that's going to be the case we should have that panel represented instead of the generic "spinfinity" Plymouth screen. I visited https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499643 to try out the plugin. Paolo, can you do one more revision with those two changes? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From stickster at gmail.com Sun May 10 14:35:20 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 10:35:20 -0400 Subject: Leonidas - Lion for single screens In-Reply-To: <1241862421.9376.18.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> References: <1241862421.9376.18.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <20090510143520.GC3447@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, May 09, 2009 at 11:47:01AM +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > Hi all, > > 'thanks' to me catching flu and having to spend whole days in bed, I > decided I'd use some of that spare time on adding the lion images for > single screens. I've just built the updated lion-backgrounds package. If > as many people as possible could test it before Monday it would be great > (I'll blog about it as well to get more attention). This is needed > because I'd like it to be tagged for release (so that people won't have > to d/l MBs of data just because we added some images) - and that means I > need to request freeze break and given the time, I'll need to be very > much sure that it does not break anything anywhere. > > Note, it won't be probably installed by default, especially on Live > Spins where each MiB of free space makes difference... > > Now, how can you test it. The packages in questions are: > > * leonidas-backgrounds, leonidas-backgrounds-common and > leonidas-backgrounds-lion-dual for the default design > * leonidas-backgrounds-lion and leonidas-backgrounds-lion-dual for > the lion on single screens > * leonidas-backgrounds-landscape for the Beta wallpapers > > and you can get them from koji [1]. > > Thanks, > Martin > > References: > [1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=101491 FWIW, and not knowing what other testing you require, I installed these and the lion background appears in my background chooser as expected, and works when I select it. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From martin.sourada at gmail.com Sun May 10 15:50:10 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 17:50:10 +0200 Subject: Leonidas - Lion for single screens In-Reply-To: <20090510143520.GC3447@localhost.localdomain> References: <1241862421.9376.18.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <20090510143520.GC3447@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1241970610.2331.0.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 10:35 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > FWIW, and not knowing what other testing you require, I installed > these and the lion background appears in my background chooser as > expected, and works when I select it. > Yup, precisely this kind of testing :) Thanks :) Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Frields > > Actually, Ian's comments notwithstanding, the gradient on the logo > should be removed. Where it's not necessary, we shouldn't arbitrarily > change the logo appearance, since that violates the logo usage > guidelines. > > Also, it looks like there is an update to the Plymouth boot loader > that uses the "charging up" idea that was presented and favorably > received here. Ray Strode labored to get this plugin included as > default, so if that's going to be the case we should have that panel > represented instead of the generic "spinfinity" Plymouth screen. I > visited https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499643 to try out > the plugin. > > Paolo, can you do one more revision with those two changes? > No problem. Below you can find a new revision with some corrections (logo gradient removed, screenshot with new plymouth plugin...) https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/7/7a/Fedora11-released-banner-big_1e.png https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/bd/Fedora11-released-banner-big_1e.svg -- Paolo Leoni ~ http://pleoni.altervista.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Sat May 9 15:46:30 2009 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 12:46:30 -0300 Subject: Leonidas - Lion for single screens In-Reply-To: <1241862421.9376.18.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> References: <1241862421.9376.18.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <4A05A556.7020403@projetofedora.org> Martin Sourada escreveu: > Hi all, > > 'thanks' to me catching flu and having to spend whole days in bed, I > decided I'd use some of that spare time on adding the lion images for > single screens. I've just built the updated lion-backgrounds package. If > as many people as possible could test it before Monday it would be great > (I'll blog about it as well to get more attention). This is needed > because I'd like it to be tagged for release (so that people won't have > to d/l MBs of data just because we added some images) - and that means I > need to request freeze break and given the time, I'll need to be very > much sure that it does not break anything anywhere. > > Note, it won't be probably installed by default, especially on Live > Spins where each MiB of free space makes difference... > > Now, how can you test it. The packages in questions are: > > * leonidas-backgrounds, leonidas-backgrounds-common and > leonidas-backgrounds-lion-dual for the default design > * leonidas-backgrounds-lion and leonidas-backgrounds-lion-dual for > the lion on single screens > * leonidas-backgrounds-landscape for the Beta wallpapers > > and you can get them from koji [1]. > > Thanks, > Martin > > References: > [1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=101491 Thanks by your attention about this issue and your extra time spent to do it Martin! Best regards! -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From jreznik at redhat.com Mon May 11 10:03:11 2009 From: jreznik at redhat.com (Jaroslav Reznik) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 12:03:11 +0200 Subject: Plymouth plugin? In-Reply-To: <20090501194317.GX6034@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090430160259.GA3111@localhost.localdomain> <408395448.182681241193528288.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> <20090501194317.GX6034@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200905111203.12166.jreznik@redhat.com> On Friday 01 May 2009 21:43:17 Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 11:58:48AM -0400, Ray Strode wrote: > > Hey Paul, > > > > > Was there a Plymouth plugin being created or reviewed for F11? I seem > > > to recall Charlie producing something but wasn't sure abou the > > > status. Can anyone clue me in? > > > > Charlie's plugins were a good start but weren't finished. There was > > also an unfinished glow plugin. > > > > I've been working on coming up with something the last couple of > > days, but it may be too late for F11 at this point, so we may end up > > with spinfinity. > > > > We'll have to see how it goes down. > > Is there somewhere people could see what you've done thus far, and/or > help? I think it would be a shame not to have something thematic > during boot time, although it's certainly not a catastrophe. Hi, you can try our KDE Leonidas Theme and KSplashX - it's based on Charlie's Plymouth plugin (thaks for wave!). Jaroslav -- Jaroslav ?ezn?k Associate Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ From stickster at gmail.com Mon May 11 12:29:42 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 08:29:42 -0400 Subject: Fedora release banners In-Reply-To: <1799f9cf0905101514g3ce26fa7ue63ce81a1eafb31d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1799f9cf0905071735nb32f9er9a9818309b48363d@mail.gmail.com> <4A03DBD8.5070900@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905080729ya1cabc6ka312c2c0cf93ab2@mail.gmail.com> <4A044314.90203@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905090845s7f2d74f5q1d78b0cd62b809dc@mail.gmail.com> <20090509214639.GA1831@alpha.rzhou.org> <20090510003501.GB14354@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> <1799f9cf0905100138t2e736e9et16060de8f21e3c81@mail.gmail.com> <20090510143009.GB3447@localhost.localdomain> <1799f9cf0905101514g3ce26fa7ue63ce81a1eafb31d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090511122942.GF9279@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:14:59AM +0200, Paolo Leoni wrote: > 2009/5/10 Paul W. Frields > Actually, Ian's comments notwithstanding, the gradient on the logo > should be removed. Where it's not necessary, we shouldn't arbitrarily > change the logo appearance, since that violates the logo usage > guidelines. > > Also, it looks like there is an update to the Plymouth boot loader > that uses the "charging up" idea that was presented and favorably > received here. Ray Strode labored to get this plugin included as > default, so if that's going to be the case we should have that panel > represented instead of the generic "spinfinity" Plymouth screen. I > visited https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499643 to try out > the plugin. > > Paolo, can you do one more revision with those two changes? > > No problem. Below you can find a new revision with some corrections (logo > gradient removed, screenshot with new plymouth plugin...) > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/7/7a/Fedora11-released-banner-big_1e.png > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/bd/Fedora11-released-banner-big_1e.svg Thanks for those changes, Paolo! Are there any other issues with these banners that need to be looked at? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From stickster at gmail.com Mon May 11 12:37:16 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 08:37:16 -0400 Subject: Leonidas - Lion for single screens In-Reply-To: <1241970610.2331.0.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> References: <1241862421.9376.18.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <20090510143520.GC3447@localhost.localdomain> <1241970610.2331.0.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <20090511123716.GG9279@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 05:50:10PM +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 10:35 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > FWIW, and not knowing what other testing you require, I installed > > these and the lion background appears in my background chooser as > > expected, and works when I select it. > > > Yup, precisely this kind of testing :) Thanks :) Thank you for spending time on this while laid up in bed, Martin! Your hard work is appreciated. :-) -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From fedora-art at brej.org Mon May 11 13:01:16 2009 From: fedora-art at brej.org (Charlie Brej) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:01:16 +0100 Subject: Plymouth plugin? In-Reply-To: <200905111203.12166.jreznik@redhat.com> References: <20090430160259.GA3111@localhost.localdomain> <408395448.182681241193528288.JavaMail.root@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> <20090501194317.GX6034@localhost.localdomain> <200905111203.12166.jreznik@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4A08219C.2000006@brej.org> Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > Hi, > you can try our KDE Leonidas Theme and KSplashX - it's based on Charlie's > Plymouth plugin (thaks for wave!). Works well for me. To test run: # yum install kdebase-workspace leonidas-kde-theme # ksplashx Leonidas --test From jreznik at redhat.com Mon May 11 13:12:47 2009 From: jreznik at redhat.com (Jaroslav Reznik) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 15:12:47 +0200 Subject: Plymouth plugin? In-Reply-To: <4A08219C.2000006@brej.org> References: <20090430160259.GA3111@localhost.localdomain> <200905111203.12166.jreznik@redhat.com> <4A08219C.2000006@brej.org> Message-ID: <200905111512.47895.jreznik@redhat.com> On Monday 11 May 2009 15:01:16 Charlie Brej wrote: > Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > Hi, > > you can try our KDE Leonidas Theme and KSplashX - it's based on Charlie's > > Plymouth plugin (thaks for wave!). > > Works well for me. To test run: > # yum install kdebase-workspace leonidas-kde-theme > # ksplashx Leonidas --test Why this wave splash is not used for Plymouth? For KDE I'll let this one as for me it's too late to change all appearance of KDM and splash... Jaroslav > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Jaroslav ?ezn?k Associate Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ From jreznik at redhat.com Mon May 11 13:27:46 2009 From: jreznik at redhat.com (Jaroslav Reznik) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 15:27:46 +0200 Subject: Fedora release banners In-Reply-To: <1799f9cf0905101514g3ce26fa7ue63ce81a1eafb31d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1799f9cf0905010202t61f8f3f5j10fc87aea9b00ad@mail.gmail.com> <20090510143009.GB3447@localhost.localdomain> <1799f9cf0905101514g3ce26fa7ue63ce81a1eafb31d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905111527.46557.jreznik@redhat.com> On Monday 11 May 2009 00:14:59 Paolo Leoni wrote: > 2009/5/10 Paul W. Frields > > > Actually, Ian's comments notwithstanding, the gradient on the logo > > should be removed. Where it's not necessary, we shouldn't arbitrarily > > change the logo appearance, since that violates the logo usage > > guidelines. > > > > Also, it looks like there is an update to the Plymouth boot loader > > that uses the "charging up" idea that was presented and favorably > > received here. Ray Strode labored to get this plugin included as > > default, so if that's going to be the case we should have that panel > > represented instead of the generic "spinfinity" Plymouth screen. I > > visited https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499643 to try out > > the plugin. > > > > Paolo, can you do one more revision with those two changes? > > No problem. Below you can find a new revision with some corrections (logo > gradient removed, screenshot with new plymouth plugin...) > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/7/7a/Fedora11-released-banner-big_1e.pn >g > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/bd/Fedora11-released-banner-big_1e.sv >g Thanks Paolo and as usual - KDE version: http://rezza.hofyland.cz/fedora/artwork/banners/fedora11-0day-banner-kde.png Jaroslav -- Jaroslav ?ezn?k Associate Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ From wonderer4711 at gmx.de Mon May 11 13:56:18 2009 From: wonderer4711 at gmx.de (wonderer) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 15:56:18 +0200 Subject: Jingle Request Message-ID: <4A082E82.9050609@gmx.de> Hy there, I did not exactly know if I could post a (music) jingle request also on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService or if there is maybe a better place for that (there seems to be "only" drawing requests ..). Because it seems to be the best place I droped my request here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService#Fedora_FWN_and_FUDCOn_Jingle_.28music.29 hope thats right and we have some musicians here ;-) mit freundlichen Gr??en / best regards Henrik Heigl - wonderer at fedoraproject.org From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon May 11 13:25:51 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 16:25:51 +0300 Subject: Fedora release banners In-Reply-To: <20090511122942.GF9279@localhost.localdomain> References: <1799f9cf0905071735nb32f9er9a9818309b48363d@mail.gmail.com> <4A03DBD8.5070900@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905080729ya1cabc6ka312c2c0cf93ab2@mail.gmail.com> <4A044314.90203@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905090845s7f2d74f5q1d78b0cd62b809dc@mail.gmail.com> <20090509214639.GA1831@alpha.rzhou.org> <20090510003501.GB14354@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> <1799f9cf0905100138t2e736e9et16060de8f21e3c81@mail.gmail.com> <20090510143009.GB3447@localhost.localdomain> <1799f9cf0905101514g3ce26fa7ue63ce81a1eafb31d@mail.gmail.com> <20090511122942.GF9279@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A08275F.4070109@nicubunu.ro> On 05/11/2009 03:29 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:14:59AM +0200, Paolo Leoni wrote: >> No problem. Below you can find a new revision with some corrections (logo >> gradient removed, screenshot with new plymouth plugin...) >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/7/7a/Fedora11-released-banner-big_1e.png >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/bd/Fedora11-released-banner-big_1e.svg > > Thanks for those changes, Paolo! Are there any other issues with > these banners that need to be looked at? I think it is fine so I attached a JPEG version, which is decreasing the file size from 125.4KB to 30.8KB with the cost of turning the corners from transparent to flat white and an almost invisible lossy image degradation (I think 96 is the optimum spot for file size/image quality in this case). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That is the best place we have, but good thing you pinged here, it seems like lately we don't to a very good job at following requests in the queue. > Because it seems to be the best place I droped my request here: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService#Fedora_FWN_and_FUDCOn_Jingle_.28music.29 > hope thats right and we have some musicians here ;-) If I recall correctly, in a relatively recent thread we had a couple of people talking about music (back when we talked about a Fedora theme song) but I don't think anyone followed it. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From hydra84 at gmail.com Mon May 11 16:04:31 2009 From: hydra84 at gmail.com (Paolo Leoni) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 18:04:31 +0200 Subject: Fedora release banners In-Reply-To: <4A08275F.4070109@nicubunu.ro> References: <1799f9cf0905071735nb32f9er9a9818309b48363d@mail.gmail.com> <4A044314.90203@nicubunu.ro> <1799f9cf0905090845s7f2d74f5q1d78b0cd62b809dc@mail.gmail.com> <20090509214639.GA1831@alpha.rzhou.org> <20090510003501.GB14354@kupenblagster.ianweller.org> <1799f9cf0905100138t2e736e9et16060de8f21e3c81@mail.gmail.com> <20090510143009.GB3447@localhost.localdomain> <1799f9cf0905101514g3ce26fa7ue63ce81a1eafb31d@mail.gmail.com> <20090511122942.GF9279@localhost.localdomain> <4A08275F.4070109@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1799f9cf0905110904s758fa622i8f50b2421fdeba18@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/11 Paul W. Frields > > Thanks for those changes, Paolo! You're welcome! :-) > Are there any other issues with > these banners that need to be looked at? > > I think we have definitives versions for both banners (small and big): Released banner - big: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/7/7a/Fedora11-released-banner-big_1e.png https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/bd/Fedora11-released-banner-big_1e.svg (see Nicu's attachment in the previous email for JPG version) Released banner - small: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/b7/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1.png https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/f/ff/Fedora11-released-banner-small_1.svg 2009/5/11 Nicu Buculei > > I think it is fine so I attached a JPEG version, which is decreasing the > file size from 125.4KB to 30.8KB with the cost of turning the corners from > transparent to flat white and an almost invisible lossy image degradation (I > think 96 is the optimum spot for file size/image quality in this case). > > > I agree with JPG choice, IMHO the big banner in PNG is a bit heavy for the home page. 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If you prepared the KDE one, feel free to append your request to > the ticket (unless it's [dis]approved before you have time to do it). Ok! We were discussing some other changes to our theme with Than today, so I'd like to use request for new version but I'll refer to your request. Thanks Jaroslav > Thanks, > Martin > > References: > [1] https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/1779 From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue May 12 17:47:19 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 11:47:19 -0600 Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: References: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Clint Savage wrote: > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> On 04/29/2009 10:23 PM, Clint Savage wrote: >>> >>> I wanted to bring this up since it affects my ability to order and >>> deliver F11 media to ambassadors and community members. >>> >>> According to John Poelstra's task list for the Fedora Art team [1], we >>> should be starting the design for the Sleeves and disc labels. Here's >>> the information: >>> >>> Create DVD/CD label and sleeve artwork ? ? ? ? ?Start: Tue 2009-04-28 >>> Due: >>> Tue 2009-05-12 ? ? ? ? ?Duration: 14days >>> >>> So with that, I'd like to get the conversation started and see what we >>> want to do for the sleeves, design wise. >> >> A little bit ago Susmit showed his interest about working on this: >> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00052.html >> >> -- >> nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ >> photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ >> my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ >> > > It appears this conversation died, however the deadline is fast > approaching. ?I can create something based upon the lion design, but I > think Someone else (Samuele, Mo, Nicu, etc.) is probably more capable > than I. ?Could someone please pick this up and get a draft ready > before Monday? ?If not, I'll see what I can do next week as I am > fairly busy these days :/ > > Cheers, > > Clint > HI all, I wanted to follow this email up with another. I've created some initial artwork for the sleeves, but I think it needs some help. I wonder if anyone has any time today/tomorrow to have a look at my work? http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/art/F11-live-sleeve.tar.bz2 Currently, it's just the live sleeve, but I expect to create 64-bit live, and 32-bit/64-bit DVD sleeves too. After getting this done, I'll work on the CD/DVD labels, which should be much easier to complete. Cheers, Clint From stickster at gmail.com Tue May 12 18:13:12 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:13:12 -0400 Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: References: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <20090512181312.GU15982@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:47:19AM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Clint Savage wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > >> On 04/29/2009 10:23 PM, Clint Savage wrote: > >>> > >>> I wanted to bring this up since it affects my ability to order and > >>> deliver F11 media to ambassadors and community members. > >>> > >>> According to John Poelstra's task list for the Fedora Art team [1], we > >>> should be starting the design for the Sleeves and disc labels. Here's > >>> the information: > >>> > >>> Create DVD/CD label and sleeve artwork ? ? ? ? ?Start: Tue 2009-04-28 > >>> Due: > >>> Tue 2009-05-12 ? ? ? ? ?Duration: 14days > >>> > >>> So with that, I'd like to get the conversation started and see what we > >>> want to do for the sleeves, design wise. > >> > >> A little bit ago Susmit showed his interest about working on this: > >> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00052.html > >> > > > > It appears this conversation died, however the deadline is fast > > approaching. ?I can create something based upon the lion design, but I > > think Someone else (Samuele, Mo, Nicu, etc.) is probably more capable > > than I. ?Could someone please pick this up and get a draft ready > > before Monday? ?If not, I'll see what I can do next week as I am > > fairly busy these days :/ > > HI all, > > I wanted to follow this email up with another. I've created some > initial artwork for the sleeves, but I think it needs some help. I > wonder if anyone has any time today/tomorrow to have a look at my > work? > > http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/art/F11-live-sleeve.tar.bz2 > > Currently, it's just the live sleeve, but I expect to create 64-bit > live, and 32-bit/64-bit DVD sleeves too. After getting this done, > I'll work on the CD/DVD labels, which should be much easier to > complete. Looks good -- a couple ideas to consider: * Change copyright date to 2009 * Make the 11 bold and possibly add a glow. * Kern the "11" so the numbers are closer together; due to the font metrics they currently look unnaturally far apart. The lion is still pretty busy -- did you want to consider moving the design, so the lion appears more to one corner, and the logo and "11" appear opposite his head? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue May 12 19:27:59 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:27:59 -0600 Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: <20090512181312.GU15982@localhost.localdomain> References: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro> <20090512181312.GU15982@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Looks good -- a couple ideas to consider: > > * Change copyright date to 2009 Done. > > * Make the 11 bold and possibly add a glow. > Bold is very bulky. The 10 on the Fedora 10 disks is just regular MgOpen Modata and I think it looks better. I'm still not decided on the glow. I kind of prefer the basic look. > * Kern the "11" so the numbers are closer together; due to the font > ?metrics they currently look unnaturally far apart. I think I got that working. > > The lion is still pretty busy -- did you want to consider moving the > design, so the lion appears more to one corner, and the logo and "11" > appear opposite his head? I've moved much of the lion off the design. I also removed a lot of the styles that were there to get this effect. If someone has problems with what I've done, please let me know and I'll roll it back. A new version are available for consideration. http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/art/F11-live-sleeve.tar.bz2 Cheers, Clint From danyikki at aol.com Tue May 12 19:39:00 2009 From: danyikki at aol.com (danyikki at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 15:39:00 -0400 Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: References: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro><20090512181312.GU15982@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <8CBA1506E928C38-C6C-FAA@FWM-M40.sysops.aol.com> Hi, good job it's nice but I think that would be better if put a line of color on the edge to improve contrast. -----Mensaje Original----- De: Clint Savage Para: Fedora Art List Enviado: Mar, 12 Mayo 2009 3:27 pm Asunto: Re: F11 Sleeve design On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Looks good -- a couple ideas to consider: > > * Change copyright date to 2009 Done. > > * Make the 11 bold and possibly add a glow. > Bold is very bulky. The 10 on the Fedora 10 disks is just regular MgOpen Modata and I think it looks better. I'm still not decided on the glow. I kind of prefer the basic look. > * Kern the "11" so the numbers are closer together; due to the font > ?metrics they currently look unnaturally far apart. I think I got that working. > > The lion is still pretty busy -- did you want to consider moving the > design, so the lion appears more to one corner, and the logo and "11" > appear opposite his head? I've moved much of the lion off the design. I also removed a lot of the styles that were there to get this effect. If someone has problems with what I've done, please let me know and I'll roll it back. A new version are available for consideration. http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/art/F11-live-sleeve.tar.bz2 Cheers, Clint _______________________________________________ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ________________________________________________________________________ Visita AOLLatino.com: Noticias de tu pa?s y EE.UU., e-mail, fotos, videos, clases de ingl?s y m?s. Todo lo que buscas. Todo gratis. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Tue May 12 20:10:41 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:10:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: <20090512181312.GU15982@localhost.localdomain> References: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro> <20090512181312.GU15982@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <281931.92094.qm@web50903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Clint, This design is awesome. I agree with Paul's feedback below though. It doesn't appear that Scribus can do the glow natively, only a plain hard outline. I will have some time tonight and I can poke at updating the file then. ~m ----- Original Message ---- > From: Paul W. Frields > To: fedora-art-list at redhat.com > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:13:12 PM > Subject: Re: F11 Sleeve design > Looks good -- a couple ideas to consider: > > * Change copyright date to 2009 > > * Make the 11 bold and possibly add a glow. > > * Kern the "11" so the numbers are closer together; due to the font > metrics they currently look unnaturally far apart. > > The lion is still pretty busy -- did you want to consider moving the > design, so the lion appears more to one corner, and the logo and "11" > appear opposite his head? From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Tue May 12 21:15:23 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: References: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro> <20090512181312.GU15982@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <666497.1318.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Clint Savage > Bold is very bulky. The 10 on the Fedora 10 disks is just regular > MgOpen Modata and I think it looks better. +1 Let's avoid using Modata bold. > I'm still not decided on the glow. I kind of prefer the basic look. I think the basic look, with the modified lion, works great, but now the blue glow Fedora logomark looks out of place. Problem is, you take the glow off that Fedora logo mark, and you can barely discern it (and certainly won't be able to at all after printing) from the dark blue background. The priority I think should be on avoiding muddying the logo. > > > * Kern the "11" so the numbers are closer together; due to the font > > metrics they currently look unnaturally far apart. > > I think I got that working. > > > > The lion is still pretty busy -- did you want to consider moving the > > design, so the lion appears more to one corner, and the logo and "11" > > appear opposite his head? > > I've moved much of the lion off the design. I also removed a lot of > the styles that were there to get this effect. If someone has > problems with what I've done, please let me know and I'll roll it > back. I like it better, it's much easier to read the '11' text. > > A new version are available for consideration. > > http://herlo.fedorapeople.org/art/F11-live-sleeve.tar.bz2 Here's what I got http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/sleeves/F11LiveMediaSleeve_mo-page001.png (tar in the same dir) ~m From william.jon.mccann at gmail.com Tue May 12 21:15:44 2009 From: william.jon.mccann at gmail.com (William Jon McCann) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:15:44 -0400 Subject: FYI: Personalization in Windows 7 Message-ID: <939dd5750905121415s52696043sd8f3769dcbb15704@mail.gmail.com> Some food for thought... http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/05/02/a-little-bit-of-personality.aspx Jon From herlo1 at gmail.com Tue May 12 21:35:19 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 15:35:19 -0600 Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: <666497.1318.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro> <20090512181312.GU15982@localhost.localdomain> <666497.1318.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > > Here's what I got > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/sleeves/F11LiveMediaSleeve_mo-page001.png > > (tar in the same dir) > > ~m Mo, I love it! Not having the fedora log on the front is a good idea, I should have done that... Cheers, Clint From stickster at gmail.com Wed May 13 00:19:42 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 20:19:42 -0400 Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: References: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro> <20090512181312.GU15982@localhost.localdomain> <666497.1318.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090513001942.GE13871@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 03:35:19PM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: > > > > Here's what I got > > > > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/sleeves/F11LiveMediaSleeve_mo-page001.png > > > > (tar in the same dir) > > > > ~m > > Mo, > > I love it! Not having the fedora log on the front is a good idea, I > should have done that... You guys are both awesome. Thanks for filtering the good changes from the bad in my email! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Wed May 13 12:32:25 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:32:25 +0300 Subject: FYI: Personalization in Windows 7 In-Reply-To: <939dd5750905121415s52696043sd8f3769dcbb15704@mail.gmail.com> References: <939dd5750905121415s52696043sd8f3769dcbb15704@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0ABDD9.5060604@nicubunu.ro> On 05/13/2009 12:15 AM, William Jon McCann wrote: > Some food for thought... > > http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/05/02/a-little-bit-of-personality.aspx I think that is very close to what we are trying to do with "Wallpaper Extras" - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Wallpaper_Extras - the plan there is to gather as many as possible images from the larger community and figure out a way to select some which we think are both good and diverse. But our project is currently in hiatus, needing some coordination (and I have my share of guilt, I have a large number of photos which can be uploaded but was lazy lately) From the Microsoft collection, I think some images are really bad from an usability point of view, much worse than our lion head. I still think a much better and useful thing would be to have the old "background channels" idea from clarkbw, but populated with Free images: http://www.gnome.org/~clarkbw/designs/background-channels/background%20channels.html -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From johannbg at hi.is Wed May 13 20:48:34 2009 From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 20:48:34 +0000 Subject: FYI: Personalization in Windows 7 In-Reply-To: <4A0ABDD9.5060604@nicubunu.ro> References: <939dd5750905121415s52696043sd8f3769dcbb15704@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABDD9.5060604@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <4A0B3222.8050400@hi.is> On 05/13/2009 12:32 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 05/13/2009 12:15 AM, William Jon McCann wrote: >> Some food for thought... >> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/05/02/a-little-bit-of-personality.aspx >> > > I think that is very close to what we are trying to do with "Wallpaper > Extras" - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Wallpaper_Extras - the > plan there is to gather as many as possible images from the larger > community and figure out a way to select some which we think are both > good and diverse. But our project is currently in hiatus, needing some > coordination (and I have my share of guilt, I have a large number of > photos which can be uploaded but was lazy lately) Did we ever settle on how and where to store all the images etc ? -- Viking-Ice One of my gods has a hammer your's was nailed to a cross You do the math! From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed May 13 21:23:23 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 23:23:23 +0200 Subject: FYI: Personalization in Windows 7 In-Reply-To: <4A0B3222.8050400@hi.is> References: <939dd5750905121415s52696043sd8f3769dcbb15704@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABDD9.5060604@nicubunu.ro> <4A0B3222.8050400@hi.is> Message-ID: <1242249803.2321.26.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 20:48 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote: > On 05/13/2009 12:32 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > On 05/13/2009 12:15 AM, William Jon McCann wrote: > >> Some food for thought... > >> > >> http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/05/02/a-little-bit-of-personality.aspx > >> > > > > I think that is very close to what we are trying to do with "Wallpaper > > Extras" - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Wallpaper_Extras - the > > plan there is to gather as many as possible images from the larger > > community and figure out a way to select some which we think are both > > good and diverse. But our project is currently in hiatus, needing some > > coordination (and I have my share of guilt, I have a large number of > > photos which can be uploaded but was lazy lately) > > Did we ever settle on how and where to store all the images etc ? > I don't think so... I really liked Ian's proposal (dig through the archives if you do not know what I am referring to), but people seemed to be generally against it. But basically what I thing we need is: * an easy way to upload images (with info on licensing and various other comments included) * a place to store the images in * a place to preview the images * a system on selecting what goes in/out of the rpm packages (voting?) I think our current setup is suboptimal in most of those points, but I ain't sure how to make it better. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Would some gallery software help us out? E.g. we could maybe talk to Fedora Infrastructure about having a gallery install for our usage. The gallery client is kind of a pain to get working in Fedora but once you do it makes it very easy to batch upload photos to the server. We could make albums for different wallpaper themes (eg a nature album, an abstract album, etc) and within each album you can rate individual photos... could be a good way of picking the best 5 for each or however many we want to package for each grouping. ~m From johannbg at hi.is Wed May 13 22:03:33 2009 From: johannbg at hi.is (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22J=F3hann_B=2E_Gu=F0mundsson=22?=) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:03:33 +0000 Subject: FYI: Personalization in Windows 7 In-Reply-To: <329897.4765.qm@web50912.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <939dd5750905121415s52696043sd8f3769dcbb15704@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABDD9.5060604@nicubunu.ro> <4A0B3222.8050400@hi.is> <1242249803.2321.26.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <329897.4765.qm@web50912.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A0B43B5.9080307@hi.is> On 05/13/2009 09:57 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > ----- Original Message ---- > > >> From: Martin Sourada >> But basically what I thing we need is: >> * an easy way to upload images (with info on licensing and various >> other comments included) >> * a place to store the images in >> * a place to preview the images >> * a system on selecting what goes in/out of the rpm packages >> (voting?) >> >> I think our current setup is suboptimal in most of those points, but I >> ain't sure how to make it better. >> > > Would some gallery software help us out? > > E.g. we could maybe talk to Fedora Infrastructure about having a gallery install for our usage. The gallery client is kind of a pain to get working in Fedora but once you do it makes it very easy to batch upload photos to the server. We could make albums for different wallpaper themes (eg a nature album, an abstract album, etc) and within each album you can rate individual photos... could be a good way of picking the best 5 for each or however many we want to package for each grouping. > > Like the gallery Idea but why go through all the trouble of package the backgrounds and ship a large set of images ( Mb ) Why not file an RFE against the application in the *DE that handle background settings that will be able to browse and preview those images from the online gallery which the end user can then select and set as his default background? This would save bandwith and the needed packaging hazzle.. The end user would also be able to preview the backgrounds online in his browser and right click the image and select to set as his default background... -- Viking-Ice One of my gods has a hammer your's was nailed to a cross You do the math! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin.sourada at gmail.com Wed May 13 22:11:23 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 00:11:23 +0200 Subject: FYI: Personalization in Windows 7 In-Reply-To: <329897.4765.qm@web50912.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <939dd5750905121415s52696043sd8f3769dcbb15704@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABDD9.5060604@nicubunu.ro> <4A0B3222.8050400@hi.is> <1242249803.2321.26.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <329897.4765.qm@web50912.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1242252683.2321.33.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 14:57 -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Would some gallery software help us out? > Maybe, depends on what exactly we would expect from it, but I suppose it is generally better than wiki for this kind of stuff. > E.g. we could maybe talk to Fedora Infrastructure about having a > gallery install for our usage. The gallery client is kind of a pain to > get working in Fedora but once you do it makes it very easy to batch > upload photos to the server. We could make albums for different > wallpaper themes (eg a nature album, an abstract album, etc) and > within each album you can rate individual photos... could be a good > way of picking the best 5 for each or however many we want to package > for each grouping. > I recall there was some talk about it on the infra list back at the time when we were starting... Most people mentioned gallery2, but the infra folks seemed to be against it due to security reasons, if I remember correctly. I myself don't use/know any of this software, so I cannot give any advice/opinion on this one... 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Gu?mundsson" wrote: > Like the gallery Idea but why go through all the trouble of package > the backgrounds and ship a large set of images ( Mb ) > > Why not file an RFE against the application in the *DE that handle > background settings that will be able to browse and preview those > images > from the online gallery which the end user can then select and set as > his default background? > > This would save bandwith and the needed packaging hazzle.. > > The end user would also be able to preview the backgrounds online in > his browser and right click the image and select to set as his default > background... It would create a mess in the system. Installing the wallpaper for all users requires su authorisation, enabling it as default means that it needs to be copied to some directory that is readable by all users and we don't like to mess up with the dirs that are usually handled by rpm,... Think also about removing. But yeah, I have the concern about bandwidth as well and I am really not sure what is the best approach to this... Some nice app that would let you select the wallpapers you'd like to install (after seeing their thumbnailed preview) would be nice to have, but I'd prefer it to integrate with our rpm (or even better packagekit) infrastructure. Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Gu?mundsson" wrote: > Why not file an RFE against the application in the *DE that handle > background settings that will be able to browse and preview those > images > from the online gallery which the end user can then select and set as > his default background? > > This would save bandwith and the needed packaging hazzle.. How would this be different from the "Set as Desktop Background..." menu item that firefox already offers you on images ? From johannbg at hi.is Thu May 14 09:13:06 2009 From: johannbg at hi.is (=?UTF-8?B?IkrDs2hhbm4gQi4gR3XDsG11bmRzc29uIg==?=) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:13:06 +0000 Subject: FYI: Personalization in Windows 7 In-Reply-To: <1242261205.9432.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <939dd5750905121415s52696043sd8f3769dcbb15704@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABDD9.5060604@nicubunu.ro> <4A0B3222.8050400@hi.is> <1242249803.2321.26.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <329897.4765.qm@web50912.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A0B43B5.9080307@hi.is> <1242261205.9432.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A0BE0A2.9080706@hi.is> On 05/14/2009 12:33 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 22:03 +0000, "J?hann B. Gu?mundsson" wrote: > > >> Why not file an RFE against the application in the *DE that handle >> background settings that will be able to browse and preview those >> images >> from the online gallery which the end user can then select and set as >> his default background? >> >> This would save bandwith and the needed packaging hazzle.. >> > > How would this be different from the "Set as Desktop Background..." menu > item that firefox already offers you on images ? > Same behavior with the added images to preview the background different application. We could also just ship our default background to reduce space on the HD if the end user wants another background he would be previewing online images instead of images stored on the file system. If it's to difficult to add this with all the ui friendly manner then just add a url ( in Gnome ) on the "backgrounds" in gnome-appearance-properties to the gallery, End user double clicks the link, the gallery page open in his default browers he previews the gallery right clicks a background he likes and chooses to set it as his default background. It still would be needed to make adjustments so that each user account can have his own separated background. I think starting packaging background-extras-*( animals etc ) would just be waste of resource. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Gu?mundsson" wrote: >> Why not file an RFE against the application in the *DE that handle >> background settings that will be able to browse and preview those >> images >> from the online gallery which the end user can then select and set as >> his default background? >> >> This would save bandwith and the needed packaging hazzle.. >> >> The end user would also be able to preview the backgrounds online in >> his browser and right click the image and select to set as his default >> background... > It would create a mess in the system. Installing the wallpaper for all > users requires su authorisation, enabling it as default means that it I think this is the whole point of personalization: don't care about all users, make easy the personalization tor each user. > needs to be copied to some directory that is readable by all users and > we don't like to mess up with the dirs that are usually handled by I like a lot how the default wallpapers are set now in the distro: check a box and input a password. > rpm,... Think also about removing. But yeah, I have the concern about Removing should not be an issue, we are talking about relatively small files, JPEGs or PNGs. > bandwidth as well and I am really not sure what is the best approach to > this... Some nice app that would let you select the wallpapers you'd > like to install (after seeing their thumbnailed preview) would be nice > to have, but I'd prefer it to integrate with our rpm (or even better > packagekit) infrastructure. Do you currently wave a wallpaper installed from rpm? Mine is a JPEG somewhere in my homedir and it survived a clean install of F11 Beta. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From martin.sourada at gmail.com Thu May 14 12:41:30 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:41:30 +0200 Subject: FYI: Personalization in Windows 7 In-Reply-To: <4A0BE96E.4030505@nicubunu.ro> References: <939dd5750905121415s52696043sd8f3769dcbb15704@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABDD9.5060604@nicubunu.ro> <4A0B3222.8050400@hi.is> <1242249803.2321.26.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <329897.4765.qm@web50912.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A0B43B5.9080307@hi.is> <1242253058.2321.39.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <4A0BE96E.4030505@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1242304890.2643.5.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 12:50 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > I think this is the whole point of personalization: don't care about all > users, make easy the personalization tor each user. > That probably a good point... > > needs to be copied to some directory that is readable by all users and > > we don't like to mess up with the dirs that are usually handled by > > I like a lot how the default wallpapers are set now in the distro: check > a box and input a password. > I don't know how this works, only that it works for the wallpapers I have installed, but they are all system ones. If you have wallpaper image in your $HOME then it probably needs to be copied over to /usr/share/backgrounds or somewhere before it can be made default. > Do you currently wave a wallpaper installed from rpm? Mine is a JPEG > somewhere in my homedir and it survived a clean install of F11 Beta. > I do... Actually I use the default wallpapers because I like them. In past I've used various custom images though, but somehow the default ones have won (I think since about the time community took over the release artwork I have been using the default wallpapers almost exclusively). Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you have wallpaper > image in your $HOME then it probably needs to be copied over > to /usr/share/backgrounds or somewhere before it can be made default. I am the sole user of my desktop, I set as a default background a photo from my home directory and it is picked correctly by GDM (ant that was all that mattered to me). Was to lazy to create a new user account only to test this. >> Do you currently wave a wallpaper installed from rpm? Mine is a JPEG >> somewhere in my homedir and it survived a clean install of F11 Beta. >> > I do... Actually I use the default wallpapers because I like them. In > past I've used various custom images though, but somehow the default > ones have won (I think since about the time community took over the > release artwork I have been using the default wallpapers almost > exclusively). I also stayed with the defaults for F8 an F9 because I liked them, not so for F10 and F11. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From mclasen at redhat.com Thu May 14 14:21:29 2009 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:21:29 -0400 Subject: FYI: Personalization in Windows 7 In-Reply-To: <1242304890.2643.5.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> References: <939dd5750905121415s52696043sd8f3769dcbb15704@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABDD9.5060604@nicubunu.ro> <4A0B3222.8050400@hi.is> <1242249803.2321.26.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <329897.4765.qm@web50912.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A0B43B5.9080307@hi.is> <1242253058.2321.39.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <4A0BE96E.4030505@nicubunu.ro> <1242304890.2643.5.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <1242310889.3964.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 14:41 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > > > I don't know how this works, only that it works for the wallpapers I > have installed, but they are all system ones. If you have wallpaper > image in your $HOME then it probably needs to be copied over > to /usr/share/backgrounds or somewhere before it can be made default. Yes. I've never gotten around to do the file-copying part for the 'Make Default' button, so that is an issue. We should at least warn the user if he makes a background the default that is not in a world-readable location. Matthias From mspevack at redhat.com Thu May 14 14:27:05 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:27:05 +0200 (CEST) Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: References: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro> <20090512181312.GU15982@localhost.localdomain> <666497.1318.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 12 May 2009, Clint Savage wrote: > I love it! Not having the fedora logo on the front is a good idea, I > should have done that... I love it also. Quick question, based on the desires of the EMEA community, would be if we could get a KDE Live Media sleeve also? I think people over here would really enjoy it if both the "Desktop Spin" and the "KDE Live Spin" were available. In short, what I think we'd like to do in Europe is: 1) GNOME x86 Live CD 2) KDE x86 Live CD 3) Installable DVD Thanks! As soon as the sleves are "final" I'm going to get our production crew in EMEA working on them, so that we can be 100% sure that they will all be ready in time for FUDCon Berlin. --Max From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Thu May 14 15:30:33 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: References: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro> <20090512181312.GU15982@localhost.localdomain> <666497.1318.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <57232.95961.qm@web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Max, I'm uploading them right now to this directory: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/sleeves/ Net connection is way slow right now but they should be up in about 10-15 minutes. ~m ----- Original Message ---- > From: Max Spevack > In short, what I think we'd like to do in Europe is: > > 1) GNOME x86 Live CD > > 2) KDE x86 Live CD > > 3) Installable DVD From mspevack at redhat.com Thu May 14 16:08:45 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 18:08:45 +0200 (CEST) Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: <57232.95961.qm@web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro> <20090512181312.GU15982@localhost.localdomain> <666497.1318.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <57232.95961.qm@web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 14 May 2009, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > I'm uploading them right now to this directory: You rock :) From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Thu May 14 16:17:32 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:47:32 +0530 Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: References: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:25 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Hi, > >> A little bit ago Susmit showed his interest about working on this: >> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00052.html I have uploaded two designs here http://susmit.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/ The artwork with lion head is ok with our vendor in India. The other one is simpler with less color. Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Thu May 14 16:31:53 2009 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 13:31:53 -0300 Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: References: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <4A0C4779.40307@projetofedora.org> susmit shannigrahi escreveu: > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 10:25 PM, susmit shannigrahi > wrote: >> Hi, >> >>> A little bit ago Susmit showed his interest about working on this: >>> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00052.html > > I have uploaded two designs here > http://susmit.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/ > > The artwork with lion head is ok with our vendor in India. > The other one is simpler with less color. > > Thanks. > Great Job!! Can you export this pictures in CMYK too ? -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Thu May 14 16:31:32 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 22:01:32 +0530 Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: <4A0C4779.40307@projetofedora.org> References: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro> <4A0C4779.40307@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: > > Great Job!! Thank you :) > Can you export this pictures in CMYK too ? Which one is more liked by your duplicator? ;) Please let me know, I shall convert it. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org Thu May 14 17:11:27 2009 From: rodrigopadula at projetofedora.org (Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:11:27 -0300 Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: References: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro> <4A0C4779.40307@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: <4A0C50BF.4050307@projetofedora.org> susmit shannigrahi escreveu: >> Great Job!! > Thank you :) > >> Can you export this pictures in CMYK too ? > > Which one is more liked by your duplicator? ;) > Please let me know, I shall convert it. > > > I thinking to print both, take picures and show here :-) -- Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira M.Sc. Student - COPPE/UFRJ Fedora Community Manager - Latin America Red Hat Community and Academy Relations http://www.proyectofedora.org http://twitter.com/rodrigopadula http://www.rodrigopadula.com From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Thu May 14 20:45:15 2009 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 22:45:15 +0200 Subject: Usb live creator refresh? In-Reply-To: <64b14b300905041242o1422c1edw9c7274a74a23c6a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300905041242o1422c1edw9c7274a74a23c6a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <64b14b300905141345jf5da420xc956c84b8825eff@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/LiveUsbCreator > > Hi, > I would love to see LiveUsbCreator artwork refresed for Fedora 11 > because it was a great hit for Fedora 9 when I did Fedora talks + > demonstrations on few gigs. > > Thank you in advance. > > -- > http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ > linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless > registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. > ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic > We are having an event coming soon, and here is Croatian version for Fedora 11 but made in Photoshop. Our member who volunteered to make it knows only PS :( http://img.w3dizajn.net/images/Livesbreator9b83.png -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu May 14 22:28:05 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 03:58:05 +0530 Subject: Usb live creator refresh? In-Reply-To: <64b14b300905141345jf5da420xc956c84b8825eff@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300905041242o1422c1edw9c7274a74a23c6a6@mail.gmail.com> <64b14b300905141345jf5da420xc956c84b8825eff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0C9AF5.9090103@fedoraproject.org> On 05/15/2009 02:15 AM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > > We are having an event coming soon, and here is Croatian version for > Fedora 11 but made in Photoshop. Our member who volunteered to make it > knows only PS :( > > http://img.w3dizajn.net/images/Livesbreator9b83.png Ask him to export it as SVG and others can make use of it from Inkscape. Rahul From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri May 15 02:40:33 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 08:10:33 +0530 Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: <4A0C50BF.4050307@projetofedora.org> References: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro> <4A0C4779.40307@projetofedora.org> <4A0C50BF.4050307@projetofedora.org> Message-ID: >>> Can you export this pictures in CMYK too ? I don't know how to do it. GIMP does not support this. $convert will do the job, but is there a easier way? Can somebody please help? -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri May 15 08:06:21 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:06:21 +0300 Subject: Usb live creator refresh? In-Reply-To: <4A0C9AF5.9090103@fedoraproject.org> References: <64b14b300905041242o1422c1edw9c7274a74a23c6a6@mail.gmail.com> <64b14b300905141345jf5da420xc956c84b8825eff@mail.gmail.com> <4A0C9AF5.9090103@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <4A0D227D.4010609@nicubunu.ro> On 05/15/2009 01:28 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/15/2009 02:15 AM, Valent Turkovic wrote: >> We are having an event coming soon, and here is Croatian version for >> Fedora 11 but made in Photoshop. Our member who volunteered to make it >> knows only PS :( >> >> http://img.w3dizajn.net/images/Livesbreator9b83.png > > Ask him to export it as SVG and others can make use of it from Inkscape. Rahul, this poster was made with Photoshop, not Illustrator, so it is available as *raster* graphics, can't be exported as SVG. However, in many cases GIMP can do a decent job of importing layered .psd (P{hotoshop) files. It is possible to convert from .psd to .xcf. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Fri May 15 08:02:40 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:02:40 +0300 Subject: Usb live creator refresh? In-Reply-To: <64b14b300905141345jf5da420xc956c84b8825eff@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300905041242o1422c1edw9c7274a74a23c6a6@mail.gmail.com> <64b14b300905141345jf5da420xc956c84b8825eff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0D21A0.5000404@nicubunu.ro> On 05/14/2009 11:45 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > > We are having an event coming soon, and here is Croatian version for > Fedora 11 but made in Photoshop. Our member who volunteered to make it > knows only PS :( > > http://img.w3dizajn.net/images/Livesbreator9b83.png It is violating the logo usage guidelines, "fedora" is written with an incorrect font and is not supposed to be either bold or italic. Please request a proper logo (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo) and use that instead. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri May 15 14:45:48 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 20:15:48 +0530 Subject: Should we replace DVD label wording? Message-ID: Hi, I just got this while we were reviewing things for upcoming media production. > In gnunify, somebody came up and > asked me about a "AMD compatible" version since they didn't realize what > we meant by Intel compatible in the cover. Can it say Intel/32-bit > compatible? Bring it up to the art-list if needed. > Rahul While I was thinking about this, I found it quite true. Should we change this to something more meaningful? Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Fri May 15 15:01:04 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 08:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Should we replace DVD label wording? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <81649.22559.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: susmit shannigrahi > > In gnunify, somebody came up and > > asked me about a "AMD compatible" version since they didn't realize what > > we meant by Intel compatible in the cover. Can it say Intel/32-bit > > compatible? Bring it up to the art-list if needed. > > Rahul > > While I was thinking about this, I found it quite true. > Should we change this to something more meaningful? > Thanks. Is this for the sleeves or the label? The sleeve says Intel / 32-bit doesn't it? ~m From thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com Fri May 15 15:23:43 2009 From: thinklinux.ssh at gmail.com (susmit shannigrahi) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 20:53:43 +0530 Subject: Should we replace DVD label wording? In-Reply-To: <81649.22559.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <81649.22559.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > > Is this for the sleeves or the label? The sleeve says Intel / 32-bit doesn't it? Label..I haven't noticed the sleeve wordings. BTW, is it ok to use "Intel / 32-bit" on media label too? Ok...silly question I know. :) Thanks. -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit ============================================= Sent from Calcutta, WB, India From stickster at gmail.com Fri May 15 15:57:35 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:57:35 -0400 Subject: Should we replace DVD label wording? In-Reply-To: References: <81649.22559.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090515155735.GK3432@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 08:53:43PM +0530, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > > > > Is this for the sleeves or the label? The sleeve says Intel / 32-bit doesn't it? > > Label..I haven't noticed the sleeve wordings. > BTW, is it ok to use "Intel / 32-bit" on media label too? Ok...silly > question I know. :) > Thanks. I think we had a very long thread about this last release... The sleeves were adjusted last release to read: "For Intel-compatible PCs" -- (for i386/i686/whatever_we_call_it_today) "For 64-bit Intel-compatible PCs" -- (for x86_64) The original "i386" and "x86_64" were cryptic to people who are just trying out Linux for the first time using Fedora. "32-bit" doesn't add anything for the average user who needs it, because he probably doesn't know the difference between that and 64-bit. Meanwhile, that "For Intel-compatible PCs" disc just works everywhere. If he does know the difference, the "64-bit" label on the x86_64 sleeve makes it clear. Just my take. If we want more explanation, I would think it would be smaller and de-emphasized in the sleeve art, but that's something that's up to the folks who know good design better than I. :-) Paul From stickster at gmail.com Fri May 15 16:11:48 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:11:48 -0400 Subject: Media art Message-ID: <20090515161148.GL3432@localhost.localdomain> Since the topic of media art came up -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Media_Artwork Is there someone on the list who can help get the appropriate disc art loaded into this page? If I recall correctly, the changes needed are quite simple: * start with https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F10_Media_Art * change the release number (and kerning the "11" together) * change the copyright date to 2009 This is, of course, pending any redesign by the Designers. :-) -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From kwade at redhat.com Fri May 15 16:23:57 2009 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 09:23:57 -0700 Subject: Should we replace DVD label wording? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090515162357.GC12750@calliope.phig.org> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 08:15:48PM +0530, susmit shannigrahi wrote: > Hi, > > I just got this while we were reviewing things for upcoming media production. > > > In gnunify, somebody came up and > > asked me about a "AMD compatible" version since they didn't realize what > > we meant by Intel compatible in the cover. Can it say Intel/32-bit > > compatible? Bring it up to the art-list if needed. > > Rahul > > While I was thinking about this, I found it quite true. > Should we change this to something more meaningful? I tend to agree, but from experience talking with people at shows, etc. ... well, nothing you put is going to make sense to everyone. Maybe just build on the poor understanding instead? "This is our PC version, it will work on any PC" == 32-bit "This is our PC version for the latest hardware, use it if you know that you have a '64-bit' processor." etc. This is a bit icky, trying to figure out wording that has meaning to technical and non-technical users. Do you all want Marketing or maybe Docs input, too? - Karsten -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Frields wrote: > Since the topic of media art came up -- > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Media_Artwork > > Is there someone on the list who can help get the appropriate disc art > loaded into this page? ?If I recall correctly, the changes needed are > quite simple: > > * start with https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F10_Media_Art > > * change the release number (and kerning the "11" together) > > * change the copyright date to 2009 > > This is, of course, pending any redesign by the Designers. :-) > I was working on this, I'll see if I can't get something up early next week. Currently on vacation until Sunday. If anyone else wants to grab a hold of this, please feel free. Clint From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Fri May 15 19:24:58 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Migrating from Fedora Art Team to Fedora Design Team Message-ID: <168409.45199.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi folks, As discussed some time ago [1], we are going to rebrand ourselves as the Fedora Design team rather than the Fedora Art team, both in hopes of attracting more UX designers, and also since it's a more accurate representation of the team so folks needing help with UI design will know where to go. Well, for roundabout reasons (getting fed up with our limited ability to collaborate on files, more later in this email) I finally got around to starting this process. MAILING LIST =========== We have a new mailing list, now hosted on Fedora's infrastructure: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team Unless there are any objections, I'm going to migrate all subscribers of fedora-art-list to the new design-team list and unsubscribe them from the old art list. I am not sure if there is a better approach. What do you think? I can also try to have a redirect put into place so mails to fedora-art-list at redhat.com are forwarded to design-team at lists.fedoraproject.org. Additionally, I plan to add some information on the old fedora-art-list list info page to redirect users to the design-team list info page. WIKI PAGE ========= I started a new wiki page under /Design a long time ago, but we'll have to populate it with details about our team and such. It's pretty bare right now: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design IRC CHANNEL ============ We've had #fedora-design open for a while in freenode, but only a few of us have been in there, please join us in there if you like! ACCOUNT GROUP =============== We also have a new account group in the Fedora Account system: 'designteam.' I am not sure the best way to proceed populating this group. We could add all users in the art group now to the design group, or we could take the opportunity to filter out inactive members. The reason a new account group was created is the final and I think the most exciting piece of news here. SHARED FILE STORAGE ==================== Seth Vidal set up a shared directory for us on fedorapeople.org: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/ I've started populating it with a lot of the Fedora art and design work I have on my systems. Here's the really cool thing about this: If you go to Places on your gnome-panel, and click on 'Connect to server...' and connect to fedorapeople.org, putting in directory: /srv/groups/designteam, then you can open up a nautilus window to browse and drag & drop files to and from this shared directory. This means rather than painfully uploading your work file-by-file to the wiki, you can just drag and drop files in batches to the shared directory and link to the top level or individual files from the wiki. To be able to mount the directory read/write for the drag & drop access though, you'll need to be added to the design-team group in FAS. Since we are not sure yet what our policy will be for migrating from the old art FAS group to the new design team group, I can add folks one-off individually to the design team group if you contact me or Nicu. I'll only add people who request membership to the design-team group who are already in the art group to be fair. I am hoping folks will use the shared directory rather than their private fedora people spaces to upload and share their files. This way, other folks on the design team can collaborate and upload their improvements and remixes to the same place so we don't have files for the same project all over the place. It should also make it easier not just to upload lots of files, but also to download them in batches. Any thoughts, questions, concerns? ~m [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-December/msg00059.html From himam at fedoraproject.org Fri May 15 19:42:23 2009 From: himam at fedoraproject.org (Hisham Abdel-Magid) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 22:42:23 +0300 Subject: Migrating from Fedora Art Team to Fedora Design Team In-Reply-To: <168409.45199.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <168409.45199.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <59e007ed0905151242o2b7a93acm9928f2005ed0bf7f@mail.gmail.com> +1 ^_^ himam -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eng. Hisham Isam M. Abdel-Magid Civil & Infrastructures Engineer Dar Al-Handasah Consultants (Shair and Partners) P.O.Box: 40358 Mobile: +974 5042547 - +974 5543080 E.mail: hisham.abdelmagid at dargroup.com Websites: www.dargroup.com - www.thepearlqatar.com Fedora Ambassador in Sudan and Qatar, E.mail: himam at fedoraproject.org wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Himam From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Fri May 15 19:49:19 2009 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 01:19:19 +0530 Subject: Migrating from Fedora Art Team to Fedora Design Team In-Reply-To: <168409.45199.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <168409.45199.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A0DC73F.8060809@fedoraproject.org> On 05/16/2009 12:54 AM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > IRC CHANNEL > ============ > > We've had #fedora-design open for a while in freenode, but only a few of us have been in there, please join us in there if you like! You could setup a irc redirect from #fedora-art to this channel as well. Rahul From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri May 15 20:11:59 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 22:11:59 +0200 Subject: Migrating from Fedora Art Team to Fedora Design Team In-Reply-To: <168409.45199.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <168409.45199.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1242418319.4094.32.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 12:24 -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Hi folks, > > As discussed some time ago [1], we are going to rebrand ourselves as > the Fedora Design team rather than the Fedora Art team, both in hopes > of attracting more UX designers, and also since it's a more accurate > representation of the team so folks needing help with UI design will > know where to go. Well, for roundabout reasons (getting fed up with > our limited ability to collaborate on files, more later in this email) > I finally got around to starting this process. > Cool. > MAILING LIST > =========== > > We have a new mailing list, now hosted on Fedora's infrastructure: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team > > Unless there are any objections, I'm going to migrate all subscribers > of fedora-art-list to the new design-team list and unsubscribe them > from the old art list. I am not sure if there is a better approach. > What do you think? I can also try to have a redirect put into place so > mails to fedora-art-list at redhat.com are forwarded to > design-team at lists.fedoraproject.org. Additionally, I plan to add some > information on the old fedora-art-list list info page to redirect > users to the design-team list info page. > Hrm, is there any point in subscribing myself, or should I just wait until you transfer my subscription? > WIKI PAGE > ========= > > I started a new wiki page under /Design a long time ago, but we'll have > to populate it with details about our team and such. It's pretty bare > right now: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design Yeah, it is pretty bare... XD Great oportunity to clean the front page a little ;-) > > IRC CHANNEL > ============ > > We've had #fedora-design open for a while in freenode, but only a few > of us have been in there, please join us in there if you like! I've been there a few times, but since most conversations seem to happen on #fedora-art... Well, at least I have it in my favourited rooms in empathy. > SHARED FILE STORAGE > ==================== > > Seth Vidal set up a shared directory for us on fedorapeople.org: > > http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/ > Whoa, this one is probably the best of all the changes :-) Just our of curiosity: what is our disk quota there? Martin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From stickster at gmail.com Fri May 15 20:32:13 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:32:13 -0400 Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: References: <49F942DB.50201@nicubunu.ro> <20090512181312.GU15982@localhost.localdomain> <666497.1318.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090515203213.GD3432@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:13:56AM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: > > In short, what I think we'd like to do in Europe is: > > > > 1) GNOME x86 Live CD > > > > 2) KDE x86 Live CD > > > > 3) Installable DVD > > > > NA also needs x86_64 of GNOME Install DVD / KDE Install DVD would be > nice as well. Did you mean x86_64 of the Desktop Live CD and KDE Live CD? Or did you mean x86_64 of the Installation DVD? IIRC we only have the one DVD with a choice of desktops at install time, right? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From mspevack at redhat.com Fri May 15 20:40:46 2009 From: mspevack at redhat.com (Max Spevack) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 22:40:46 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Migrating from Fedora Art Team to Fedora Design Team In-Reply-To: <168409.45199.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <168409.45199.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 15 May 2009, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > Any thoughts, questions, concerns? I think it's a wonderful idea, overall. I also like the idea of you guys having a shared file drop point that isn't the wiki. For me, the most common use case of the work the design team does is "I want to just browse around and see what cool stuff people have made that I might want to mass produce" and it's always been hard, since stuff has seemed to exist in 4 or 5 locations. Keep up all the wonderful work, is my comment! :) --Max From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Fri May 15 20:42:36 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Migrating from Fedora Art Team to Fedora Design Team In-Reply-To: <4A0DC73F.8060809@fedoraproject.org> References: <168409.45199.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A0DC73F.8060809@fedoraproject.org> Message-ID: <817933.10165.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Rahul Sundaram > You could setup a irc redirect from #fedora-art to this channel as well. Well, we could keep #fedora-art open for any artists who want to use Fedora to create artwork to get help & advice. And just have #fedora-design open for the design team to talk. ~m From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Fri May 15 20:44:17 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Migrating from Fedora Art Team to Fedora Design Team In-Reply-To: <1242418319.4094.32.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> References: <168409.45199.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1242418319.4094.32.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> Message-ID: <701042.25763.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Martin Sourada > Hrm, is there any point in subscribing myself, or should I just wait > until you transfer my subscription? Noppers, I'll handle the subscriptions so no need to do anything except potentially update your server and/or client side mail filtering to account for the change. > I've been there a few times, but since most conversations seem to happen > on #fedora-art... Well, at least I have it in my favourited rooms in > empathy. I'm hoping if more folks lurk in there more stuff will happen in there :) > Whoa, this one is probably the best of all the changes :-) > > Just our of curiosity: what is our disk quota there? Hehe, I don't know but I already hit it and Seth had to up us again. ~m From mairin at linuxgrrl.com Fri May 15 20:58:06 2009 From: mairin at linuxgrrl.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1ir=EDn_Duffy?=) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Migrating from Fedora Art Team to Fedora Design Team In-Reply-To: References: <168409.45199.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <907429.72871.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Max Spevack > For me, the most common use case of the work the design team does is "I want to > just browse around and see what cool stuff people have made that I might want to > mass produce" and it's always been hard, since stuff has seemed to exist in 4 or > 5 locations. Yep yep! I'm hoping this will become the canonical single location: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Fedora%20Collateral/ ~m From stickster at gmail.com Fri May 15 21:00:44 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:00:44 -0400 Subject: Migrating from Fedora Art Team to Fedora Design Team In-Reply-To: <168409.45199.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <168409.45199.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090515210044.GF3432@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:24:58PM -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Hi folks, > > As discussed some time ago [1], we are going to rebrand ourselves as > the Fedora Design team rather than the Fedora Art team, both in > hopes of attracting more UX designers, and also since it's a more > accurate representation of the team so folks needing help with UI > design will know where to go. Well, for roundabout reasons (getting > fed up with our limited ability to collaborate on files, more later > in this email) I finally got around to starting this process. Mo, this is fantastic news! This also will help to clarify the boundaries and shared work with the Websites team, I think. This team already has skills beyond just making beautiful art. And a Design team is the perfect way to start attracting people who can help us with workflow issues on our websites, the upcoming Fedora Community, and so forth. I'd love some ideas on where we could start planting some seeds of information in free-culture type design communities, where people might be willing to come and use open processes and free tools to create great new design and user experiences around Fedora. > MAILING LIST > =========== > > We have a new mailing list, now hosted on Fedora's infrastructure: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team > > Unless there are any objections, I'm going to migrate all > subscribers of fedora-art-list to the new design-team list and > unsubscribe them from the old art list. I am not sure if there is a > better approach. What do you think? I can also try to have a > redirect put into place so mails to fedora-art-list at redhat.com are > forwarded to design-team at lists.fedoraproject.org. Additionally, I > plan to add some information on the old fedora-art-list list info > page to redirect users to the design-team list info page. +1 [...snip...] > IRC CHANNEL > ============ > > We've had #fedora-design open for a while in freenode, but only a > few of us have been in there, please join us in there if you like! +1, done! > ACCOUNT GROUP > =============== > > We also have a new account group in the Fedora Account system: > 'designteam.' I am not sure the best way to proceed populating this > group. We could add all users in the art group now to the design > group, or we could take the opportunity to filter out inactive > members. The reason a new account group was created is the final and > I think the most exciting piece of news here. Do you think it's worthwhile to have a Trac instance for the team? I know that many other groups use that as a low-drag queue system. We don't want so much geekiness that it turns off designers. On the other hand, many Fedora groups have a Trac to do queue-type things, and in general it's been found to be easy, flexible, and low-drag. Certainly it beats editing a gigantic wiki page! The combination of this plus a place where we can drop things and paste URLs (like below!) would help speed things up immensely, I think. I can drop this idea on the new design-team list if this doesn't carry over there. Also, I am willing to do the request with the admins, make sure it's working, and reconfigure it to match what we think we need for this team. (I say "we" here a little loosely because I know I'm not much of an artist or designer, but I do like interacting with people here so I hope no one minds.) :-) So if people +1 this, I have the ball for those tasks. > SHARED FILE STORAGE > ==================== > > Seth Vidal set up a shared directory for us on fedorapeople.org: > > http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/ Love, love, LOVE IT! -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug From stickster at gmail.com Fri May 15 21:13:39 2009 From: stickster at gmail.com (Paul W. Frields) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:13:39 -0400 Subject: Migrating from Fedora Art Team to Fedora Design Team In-Reply-To: <907429.72871.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <168409.45199.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <907429.72871.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090515211339.GG3432@localhost.localdomain> B1;2001;0cOn Fri, May 15, 2009 at 01:58:06PM -0700, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: Max Spevack > > For me, the most common use case of the work the design team does is "I want to > > just browse around and see what cool stuff people have made that I might want to > > mass produce" and it's always been hard, since stuff has seemed to exist in 4 or > > 5 locations. > > Yep yep! I'm hoping this will become the canonical single location: > > http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Fedora%20Collateral/ Already created my Nautilus bookmark. Superb! Paul From herlo1 at gmail.com Fri May 15 21:19:54 2009 From: herlo1 at gmail.com (Clint Savage) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 15:19:54 -0600 Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: <20090515203213.GD3432@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090512181312.GU15982@localhost.localdomain> <666497.1318.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090515203213.GD3432@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:13:56AM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: >> > In short, what I think we'd like to do in Europe is: >> > >> > 1) GNOME x86 Live CD >> > >> > 2) KDE x86 Live CD >> > >> > 3) Installable DVD >> > >> >> NA also needs x86_64 of GNOME Install DVD / KDE Install DVD would be >> nice as well. > > Did you mean x86_64 of the Desktop Live CD and KDE Live CD? ?Or did > you mean x86_64 of the Installation DVD? ?IIRC we only have the one > DVD with a choice of desktops at install time, right? Er, yeah. That's what I meant. :) Clint From martin.sourada at gmail.com Fri May 15 21:31:06 2009 From: martin.sourada at gmail.com (Martin Sourada) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 23:31:06 +0200 Subject: Berlin FUDCon T-Shirts [Re: Improving Leonidas Backgrounds] In-Reply-To: <1242421595.3309.5.camel@F10Lap1.homenet.local> References: <1242421595.3309.5.camel@F10Lap1.homenet.local> Message-ID: <1242423066.4094.36.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 23:06 +0200, Gerold Kassube wrote: > Hi Martin, > > is it please possible that you create me a two-color scheme that I can > use for a T-Shirt print? > I want to produce for Linuxtag in Germany and for FUDCon the "Leonidas > Shirt" but with that much colors the producer says it costs to much; I > need to reduce the picture on two colors ... > > I want print the head on a blue shirt; let's say starting the lion head > on a small part in the back coming around under the arms and have 35% of > the front with the head and the rest of the front with the "symbols" .. > > It would be great if I can get these images as a vecor based .eps pr > whatever ... > > Thanks in advance for your outstanding help! 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[1] https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/e/e4/King_4070x1536.jpg [2] https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/f/ff/King_4070x1536.xcf.bz2 [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11/RC#Wallpaper [4] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/wallpapers/leonidas/King_4070x1536_2.jpg [5] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/wallpapers/leonidas/King_4070x1536_3.jpg > > > > Thanks in advance for your outstanding help! > You might want to try one of these ones: > http://molaora.com/?q=node/57 > > Unfortunately I don't have time to play with this myself, but you should > have more luck in the wider audience. CC-ing art-list. > > Martin -- Regards Gerold Kassube Fedora Ambassador Deutschland / Germany Schweiz / Switzerland Email: GeroldKa at fedoraproject.org 1024D/F33128B9 4ABC A903 F1F4 D9CC C422 AACA EDF1 DF42 F331 28B9 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Our member who volunteered to make it >> knows only PS :( >> >> http://img.w3dizajn.net/images/Livesbreator9b83.png > > It is violating the logo usage guidelines, "fedora" is written with an > incorrect font and is not supposed to be either bold or italic. > > Please request a proper logo (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo) and use > that instead. > > -- > nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ > photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ > my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > Ok, I'll import it to GIMP and fix font issues. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Sat May 16 17:35:45 2009 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 19:35:45 +0200 Subject: Usb live creator refresh? In-Reply-To: <64b14b300905161014h3e1dd946ra67d8053e63cdab6@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300905041242o1422c1edw9c7274a74a23c6a6@mail.gmail.com> <64b14b300905141345jf5da420xc956c84b8825eff@mail.gmail.com> <4A0D21A0.5000404@nicubunu.ro> <64b14b300905161014h3e1dd946ra67d8053e63cdab6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <64b14b300905161035s26e9c102ja3f32f3a80fc3b97@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> On 05/14/2009 11:45 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: >>> >>> We are having an event coming soon, and here is Croatian version for >>> Fedora 11 but made in Photoshop. Our member who volunteered to make it >>> knows only PS :( >>> >>> http://img.w3dizajn.net/images/Livesbreator9b83.png >> >> It is violating the logo usage guidelines, "fedora" is written with an >> incorrect font and is not supposed to be either bold or italic. >> >> Please request a proper logo (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo) and use >> that instead. >> >> -- >> nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ >> photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ >> my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-art-list mailing list >> Fedora-art-list at redhat.com >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list >> > > > Ok, I'll import it to GIMP and fix font issues. > > -- > http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ > linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless > registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. > ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic > How about this: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/184632/Marketing_LiveUsbCreator_usblive-f11-small.xcf Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Sun May 17 11:09:10 2009 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 13:09:10 +0200 Subject: Usb live creator refresh? In-Reply-To: <64b14b300905161035s26e9c102ja3f32f3a80fc3b97@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300905041242o1422c1edw9c7274a74a23c6a6@mail.gmail.com> <64b14b300905141345jf5da420xc956c84b8825eff@mail.gmail.com> <4A0D21A0.5000404@nicubunu.ro> <64b14b300905161014h3e1dd946ra67d8053e63cdab6@mail.gmail.com> <64b14b300905161035s26e9c102ja3f32f3a80fc3b97@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <64b14b300905170409l1787171fv74b9e2cb473098e7@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Valent Turkovic > wrote: >> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: >>> On 05/14/2009 11:45 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: >>>> >>>> We are having an event coming soon, and here is Croatian version for >>>> Fedora 11 but made in Photoshop. Our member who volunteered to make it >>>> knows only PS :( >>>> >>>> http://img.w3dizajn.net/images/Livesbreator9b83.png >>> >>> It is violating the logo usage guidelines, "fedora" is written with an >>> incorrect font and is not supposed to be either bold or italic. >>> >>> Please request a proper logo (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo) and use >>> that instead. >>> >>> -- >>> nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ >>> photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ >>> my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fedora-art-list mailing list >>> Fedora-art-list at redhat.com >>> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list >>> >> >> >> Ok, I'll import it to GIMP and fix font issues. >> >> -- >> http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ >> linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless >> registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. >> ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic >> > > > How about this: > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/184632/Marketing_LiveUsbCreator_usblive-f11-small.xcf Is this ok with fedora gudelines? -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From theholyettlz at googlemail.com Sun May 17 13:48:13 2009 From: theholyettlz at googlemail.com (The Holy ettlz) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:48:13 +0100 Subject: Plymouth "Ring" theme Message-ID: <1242568093.2901.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello, I've put together a "Ring" theme for Plymouth. It's derived from Charge (same colours) and presents a ring that gradually completes as the system starts, then displays the Fedora logo. Available for download from http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/theholyettlz/plymouth-theme-ring-0.1.tar.bz2 There's an RPM .spec file in the bundle. Regard, James. -- The Holy ettlz TheHolyettlz at googlemail.com PGP key ID: 03F94B5D ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <64b14b300905170409l1787171fv74b9e2cb473098e7@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300905041242o1422c1edw9c7274a74a23c6a6@mail.gmail.com> <64b14b300905141345jf5da420xc956c84b8825eff@mail.gmail.com> <4A0D21A0.5000404@nicubunu.ro> <64b14b300905161014h3e1dd946ra67d8053e63cdab6@mail.gmail.com> <64b14b300905161035s26e9c102ja3f32f3a80fc3b97@mail.gmail.com> <64b14b300905170409l1787171fv74b9e2cb473098e7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A1107B4.7000001@nicubunu.ro> On 05/17/2009 02:09 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: >>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: >>>> On 05/14/2009 11:45 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: >>>>> >>>>> We are having an event coming soon, and here is Croatian version for >>>>> Fedora 11 but made in Photoshop. Our member who volunteered to make it >>>>> knows only PS :( >>>>> >>>>> http://img.w3dizajn.net/images/Livesbreator9b83.png >>>> >>>> It is violating the logo usage guidelines, "fedora" is written with an >>>> incorrect font and is not supposed to be either bold or italic. >>>> >>>> Please request a proper logo (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo) and use >>>> that instead. >>> >>> Ok, I'll import it to GIMP and fix font issues. >> >> How about this: >> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/184632/Marketing_LiveUsbCreator_usblive-f11-small.xcf > > Is this ok with fedora gudelines? You are still NOT using the proper fedora logo: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo (you write "fedora" with MgOpen Modata Bold) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon May 18 07:26:21 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 10:26:21 +0300 Subject: Migrating from Fedora Art Team to Fedora Design Team In-Reply-To: <168409.45199.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <168409.45199.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A110D9D.9010006@nicubunu.ro> On 05/15/2009 10:24 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: > > Hi folks, > > As discussed some time ago [1], we are going to rebrand ourselves as the Fedora Design team rather than the Fedora Art team, both in hopes of attracting more UX designers, and also since it's a more accurate representation of the team so folks needing help with UI design will know where to go. Well, for roundabout reasons (getting fed up with our limited ability to collaborate on files, more later in this email) I finally got around to starting this process. > > MAILING LIST > =========== > > We have a new mailing list, now hosted on Fedora's infrastructure: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team > > Unless there are any objections, I'm going to migrate all subscribers of fedora-art-list to the new design-team list and unsubscribe them from the old art list. I am not sure if there is a better approach. What do you think? I can also try to have a redirect put into place so mails to fedora-art-list at redhat.com are forwarded to design-team at lists.fedoraproject.org. Additionally, I plan to add some information on the old fedora-art-list list info page to redirect users to the design-team list info page. This looks like a good plan. > WIKI PAGE > ========= > > I started a new wiki page under /Design a long time ago, but we'll have to populate it with details about our team and such. It's pretty bare right now: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design Yeah, we could start with adding a banner, create categories for navigation and such. > IRC CHANNEL > ============ > > We've had #fedora-design open for a while in freenode, but only a few of us have been in there, please join us in there if you like! Been there for a while... > ACCOUNT GROUP > =============== > > We also have a new account group in the Fedora Account system: 'designteam.' I am not sure the best way to proceed populating this group. We could add all users in the art group now to the design group, or we could take the opportunity to filter out inactive members. The reason a new account group was created is the final and I think the most exciting piece of news here. I am for the opportunity of filtering inactive members: the number of group members is huge but very few are active contributors. > SHARED FILE STORAGE > ==================== > > Seth Vidal set up a shared directory for us on fedorapeople.org: > > http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/ > > I've started populating it with a lot of the Fedora art and design work I have on my systems. Here's the really cool thing about this: If you go to Places on your gnome-panel, and click on 'Connect to server...' and connect to fedorapeople.org, putting in directory: /srv/groups/designteam, then you can open up a nautilus window to browse and drag& drop files to and from this shared directory. This means rather than painfully uploading your work file-by-file to the wiki, you can just drag and drop files in batches to the shared directory and link to the top level or individual files from the wiki. I think in time we will figure out some ways to make best use of this shared space. > To be able to mount the directory read/write for the drag& drop access though, you'll need to be added to the design-team group in FAS. Since we are not sure yet what our policy will be for migrating from the old art FAS group to the new design team group, I can add folks one-off individually to the design team group if you contact me or Nicu. I'll only add people who request membership to the design-team group who are already in the art group to be fair. As said above, I am for manual migration of users to the new group. As we don't have versioning, history or a self-made backup, edit notifications and such, should we tighten the rules for membership in this group? (we are a "rm -rf" away from massive data loss). > I am hoping folks will use the shared directory rather than their private fedora people spaces to upload and share their files. This way, other folks on the design team can collaborate and upload their improvements and remixes to the same place so we don't have files for the same project all over the place. It should also make it easier not just to upload lots of files, but also to download them in batches. Still thinking about the directory structure and if it would be useful or not to have "user" directories inside this shared storage. > Any thoughts, questions, concerns? I am surprised you have not also blogged about this rebranding, I think it is informative for the larger community. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon May 18 07:31:36 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 10:31:36 +0300 Subject: Migrating from Fedora Art Team to Fedora Design Team In-Reply-To: <701042.25763.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <168409.45199.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <1242418319.4094.32.camel@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz> <701042.25763.qm@web50905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A110ED8.2000000@nicubunu.ro> On 05/15/2009 11:44 PM, M?ir?n Duffy wrote: >> From: Martin Sourada >> >> Just our of curiosity: what is our disk quota there? > > Hehe, I don't know but I already hit it and Seth had to up us again. If we are going to use it for things like the picture book or even the wallpaper extras project, then we will need *serious* storage of at least a few GB. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From frankly3d at gmail.com Mon May 18 07:33:28 2009 From: frankly3d at gmail.com (Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 08:33:28 +0100 Subject: Migrating from Fedora Art Team to Fedora Design Team In-Reply-To: <4A110D9D.9010006@nicubunu.ro> References: <168409.45199.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4A110D9D.9010006@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <4A110F48.3080004@gmail.com> Nicu Buculei wrote: > > I am for the opportunity of filtering inactive members: the number of > group members is huge but very few are active contributors. > As an inactive art member (joined with hight hopes but got sidetracked with school). I have no problem bee filtered out of art. But, if times becomes available in three or four years, would like the opportunity to re-apply. Hopefully with a better "oss" portfolio. Frank -- msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List Still Learning, Unicode where possible From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Mon May 18 10:00:25 2009 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:00:25 +0200 Subject: Usb live creator refresh? In-Reply-To: <4A1107B4.7000001@nicubunu.ro> References: <64b14b300905041242o1422c1edw9c7274a74a23c6a6@mail.gmail.com> <64b14b300905141345jf5da420xc956c84b8825eff@mail.gmail.com> <4A0D21A0.5000404@nicubunu.ro> <64b14b300905161014h3e1dd946ra67d8053e63cdab6@mail.gmail.com> <64b14b300905161035s26e9c102ja3f32f3a80fc3b97@mail.gmail.com> <64b14b300905170409l1787171fv74b9e2cb473098e7@mail.gmail.com> <4A1107B4.7000001@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <64b14b300905180300l1ebaf226g353801be614b8d3d@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> >> Is this ok with fedora gudelines? > > You are still NOT using the proper fedora logo: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo (you write "fedora" with MgOpen Modata > Bold) > Ah, we tried to be as close as possible to logo. That is why we and others ask for this (the request is on the wiki) to be made for us. It looks easy but there are lots of pitfalls for ones who try to do this for the first time. Now I see that there are no vector formats for download but it has to be asked for and that we need to wait two-three weeks for response. Well we have out presentation tomorrow and posters go today to print shop. We will put fedora logo in PNG or try to mimic logo with font that is the closest to it. Thank you Nicu and others for helping out. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From fedora-art at brej.org Mon May 18 10:34:46 2009 From: fedora-art at brej.org (Charlie Brej) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 11:34:46 +0100 Subject: Plymouth "Ring" theme In-Reply-To: <1242568093.2901.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1242568093.2901.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4A1139C6.2000505@brej.org> The Holy ettlz wrote: > Hello, > > I've put together a "Ring" theme for Plymouth. It's derived from Charge > (same colours) and presents a ring that gradually completes as the > system starts, then displays the Fedora logo. Available for download > from > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/theholyettlz/plymouth-theme-ring-0.1.tar.bz2 > > There's an RPM .spec file in the bundle. > > Regard, > James. Brilliant. You should send this to the plymouth list[1]. We probably can't keep the theme upstream but I'm sure halfline and mccann will be chuffed to see people already making themes. [1] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/plymouth From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon May 18 10:43:25 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 13:43:25 +0300 Subject: Usb live creator refresh? In-Reply-To: <64b14b300905180300l1ebaf226g353801be614b8d3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <64b14b300905041242o1422c1edw9c7274a74a23c6a6@mail.gmail.com> <64b14b300905141345jf5da420xc956c84b8825eff@mail.gmail.com> <4A0D21A0.5000404@nicubunu.ro> <64b14b300905161014h3e1dd946ra67d8053e63cdab6@mail.gmail.com> <64b14b300905161035s26e9c102ja3f32f3a80fc3b97@mail.gmail.com> <64b14b300905170409l1787171fv74b9e2cb473098e7@mail.gmail.com> <4A1107B4.7000001@nicubunu.ro> <64b14b300905180300l1ebaf226g353801be614b8d3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A113BCD.8020903@nicubunu.ro> On 05/18/2009 01:00 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: >>> Is this ok with fedora gudelines? >> >> You are still NOT using the proper fedora logo: >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo (you write "fedora" with MgOpen Modata >> Bold) > > Ah, we tried to be as close as possible to logo. That is why we and > others ask for this (the request is on the wiki) to be made for us. It > looks easy but there are lots of pitfalls for ones who try to do this > for the first time. > > Now I see that there are no vector formats for download but it has to > be asked for and that we need to wait two-three weeks for response. > Well we have out presentation tomorrow and posters go today to print > shop. For the time being I added a layer with the proper logo: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Fedora%20Collateral/Usb%20creator/ > We will put fedora logo in PNG or try to mimic logo with font that is > the closest to it. > > Thank you Nicu and others for helping out. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon May 18 10:57:03 2009 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 13:57:03 +0300 Subject: Plymouth "Ring" theme In-Reply-To: <4A1139C6.2000505@brej.org> References: <1242568093.2901.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A1139C6.2000505@brej.org> Message-ID: <4A113EFF.1050601@nicubunu.ro> On 05/18/2009 01:34 PM, Charlie Brej wrote: > The Holy ettlz wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I've put together a "Ring" theme for Plymouth. It's derived from Charge >> (same colours) and presents a ring that gradually completes as the >> system starts, then displays the Fedora logo. Available for download >> from >> >> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/theholyettlz/plymouth-theme-ring-0.1.tar.bz2 >> >> There's an RPM .spec file in the bundle. >> >> Regard, >> James. > > Brilliant. You should send this to the plymouth list[1]. We probably > can't keep the theme upstream but I'm sure halfline and mccann will be > chuffed to see people already making themes. > > [1] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/plymouth Dunno, maybe he sent it there too... he is not subscribed tot he list and I allowed the message from the moderation queue, replying here just to set the CC: field... -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ From theholyettlz at googlemail.com Mon May 18 12:05:35 2009 From: theholyettlz at googlemail.com (The Holy ettlz) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 13:05:35 +0100 Subject: Plymouth "Ring" theme In-Reply-To: <4A113EFF.1050601@nicubunu.ro> References: <1242568093.2901.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A1139C6.2000505@brej.org> <4A113EFF.1050601@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <1242648335.7346.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello, > > Brilliant. You should send this to the plymouth list[1]. We probably > > can't keep the theme upstream but I'm sure halfline and mccann will be > > chuffed to see people already making themes. > > > > [1] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/plymouth > > Dunno, maybe he sent it there too... he is not subscribed tot he list > and I allowed the message from the moderation queue, replying here just > to set the CC: field... Thanks for the pointer. I've just subscribed to this list. Regards, James. -- The Holy ettlz TheHolyettlz at googlemail.com PGP key ID: 03F94B5D ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Available for download > from > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/theholyettlz/plymouth-theme-ring-0.1.tar.bz2 > > There's an RPM .spec file in the bundle. > > Regard, > James. > > -- > The Holy ettlz ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?TheHolyettlz at googlemail.com > PGP key ID: 03F94B5D > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Clint From valent.turkovic at gmail.com Tue May 19 08:57:57 2009 From: valent.turkovic at gmail.com (Valent Turkovic) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:57:57 +0200 Subject: F11 Sleeve design In-Reply-To: <20090429231447.GZ18166@localhost.localdomain> References: <20090429231447.GZ18166@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <64b14b300905190157m3daacbabs6f60a1e4cbc40539@mail.gmail.com> +1 On 4/30/09, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 01:23:50PM -0600, Clint Savage wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I wanted to bring this up since it affects my ability to order and >> deliver F11 media to ambassadors and community members. >> >> According to John Poelstra's task list for the Fedora Art team [1], we >> should be starting the design for the Sleeves and disc labels. Here's >> the information: >> >> Create DVD/CD label and sleeve artwork Start: Tue 2009-04-28 Due: >> Tue 2009-05-12 Duration: 14days >> >> So with that, I'd like to get the conversation started and see what we >> want to do for the sleeves, design wise. > > Since it won't generate any usability problems, I'd like to request > that the lion appear on the sleeve. :-) > > -- > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-art-list mailing list > Fedora-art-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list > -- Sent from my mobile device http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic From nicu at nicubunu.ro Tue May 19 13:59:41 2009 From: nicu at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:59:41 +0300 Subject: test moderation and forwarding Message-ID: <4A12BB4D.1090401@nicubunu.ro> sorry for spam -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com