Screensavers in FC3

[Powell, James F CONT]

Never get me wrong.  I use the simplest 2d screensaver I can find.  As long as something is on the screen and moves from time to time, it is sufficient.  One of those awful Windows Screensavers where the logo just moves around on the screen would be sufficient for my purpose.  I agree with the group as a whole that the screen savers really do need to be pared down, I just can't have them eliminated since I use Fedora as my desktop OS at work.

Jim Powell
L3 Communications GSI
Senior Scientist/Engineer
AV-8B Weapons Integration
james.f.powell at navy.mil <mailto:james.f.powell at navy.mil>
(760)939-9089


> -----Original Message-----
> From: fedora-desktop-list-bounces at redhat.com
> [mailto:fedora-desktop-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Behdad
> Esfahbod
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 9:21
> To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop
> Subject: RE: Screensavers in FC3
> 
> 
> 
> In fact one of the basic reasons to move some screensavers out
> has been that the OpenGL ones (at least) can keep CPU usage on
> 100% on many machines, which contributes to the bill to pay and
> for many laptops it increases the temperature considerably.
> 
> behdad
> 
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Powell, James F CONT wrote:
> 
> > I think I through a monkey wrench in the discussion when I
> > brought up that my jobsite requires a non-blank screen saver to
> > be running on all platforms that are powered up.  Of course
> > because of this, we also can't take advantage of power
> > management since that would result in a blank screen as well.
> >
> > Jim Powell
> > L3 Communications GSI
> > Senior Scientist/Engineer
> > AV-8B Weapons Integration
> > james.f.powell at navy.mil <mailto:james.f.powell at navy.mil>
> > (760)939-9089
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: fedora-desktop-list-bounces at redhat.com
> > > [mailto:fedora-desktop-list-bounces at redhat.com]On Behalf Of Nils
> > > Philippsen
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 8:57
> > > To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop
> > > Subject: Re: Screensavers in FC3
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 14:20, Steven Garrity wrote:
> > > > There was some talk a few months back about trimming down the
> > > > screensavers in Fedora Core to a more sane number.
> > > >
> > > > First, there was the issue of 3D screensavers bogging down
> > > machines that
> > > > couldn't handle them:
> > > >
> > > https://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2003-D
> > > ecember/msg00088.html
> > > >
> > > > Then, I floated a proposal to pare down the included 
> screensavers:
> > > >
> > > https://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2004-F
> > > ebruary/msg00002.html
> > > >
> > > > Then, Bill Nottingham had my favourite proposal yet for the
> > > > screensavers:
> > > >
> > > https://listman.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2004-F
> > ebruary/msg00006.html
> > >
> > > Bill Nottingham <notting redhat com> wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  > xscreensaver - blank only, core
> > >  > xscreensaver-extras - everything else
> > >  >
> > >  > Simple, clean, avoids flamewars.
> > >  >
> > >
> > > Has there been any progress on this? Is it too late to do 
> something for FC3?
> >
> > >From my POV this whole issue is 80% rather trivial 
> (packaging) with 20%
> > coding that needs to be done before that can be the case:
> >
> > - xscreensaver needs to revert to "blank screen" if the 
> user has chosen
> > anything other than {disable screen saver, blank screen}, likewise
> > xscreensaver-demo (which should rather be xscreensaver-config,
> > ...-prefs, ...) should only let you enable or disable 
> blanking in that
> > case
> > - xscreensaver needs another means than X11 resources to let the
> > preferences tool know about the installed hacks, messing around with
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/XScreenSaver is very cumbersome and
> > bug-prone. Something like a directory 
> /etc/xscreensaver/hacks.d where
> > packages could just drop in small files describing their 
> hacks would be
> > best IMO
> >
> > Both of these are not that trivial and would need to be accepted
> > upstream down the road -- we don't want to maintain such 
> patches forever
> >
> > Nils
> >
> 
> --behdad
>   behdad.org
> 
> 
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