From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sat Jan 1 14:09:37 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 15:09:37 +0100 Subject: HPLaserjet 1010 In-Reply-To: <20041230105441.68910.qmail@web8407.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <20041230105441.68910.qmail@web8407.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1104588576.2973.25.camel@kyrre> tor, 30.12.2004 kl. 11.54 skrev Sujith kumar: > Hi Smith, > Can u please tell me in a more simplied way. I am a newbie. > thank you, sujith > Frank smith wrote: > HI > I have a colour laser jet 5 here and the best I got it work in > cups was using the postscript driver, as is, > The laser should be able to understand postscript and change > from PCL if thats what you have. > Give it a try as I found none of the hp drivers worked in > cups. > Cheers > Bob > > > On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 10:20 +0000, Sujith kumar wrote: > > HP Laserjet 1010 > -- > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. > > ______________________________________________________________________ If you are a newbie, you might consider upgrading to core 3... From FilipSedivy at mail.boisestate.edu Mon Jan 3 06:17:41 2005 From: FilipSedivy at mail.boisestate.edu (Filip Sedivy) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 23:17:41 -0700 Subject: SSID manager in FC3 Message-ID: <1104733061.903d90fcFilipSedivy@mail.boisestate.edu> Hello. I would like to ask someone for a help with wireless SSID management in FC3 with Gnome. Is there such a thing? I need to easily switch between various AP's and I can't find a way how to do that within GUI? Thanks! From johnp at redhat.com Mon Jan 3 06:26:47 2005 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 01:26:47 -0500 Subject: SSID manager in FC3 In-Reply-To: <1104733061.903d90fcFilipSedivy@mail.boisestate.edu> References: <1104733061.903d90fcFilipSedivy@mail.boisestate.edu> Message-ID: <1104733607.4783.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 01:17, Filip Sedivy wrote: > Hello. I would like to ask someone for a help with wireless SSID management in FC3 with Gnome. Is there such a thing? I need to easily switch between various AP's and I can't find a way how to do that within GUI? Thanks! Network Manager http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/ This should really be asked on the various user mailing lists and not the devel list, just so you know next time. -- J5 From veillard at redhat.com Mon Jan 3 13:08:08 2005 From: veillard at redhat.com (Daniel Veillard) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 08:08:08 -0500 Subject: Strange cursor redraws Message-ID: <20050103130808.GP31887@redhat.com> I have noticed that my cursor get redrawed generating cursor image flicker even if I don't move the mouse or the underlying image doesn't change. It didn't depend on the application having the focus, or over which the cursor was drawn, but was depending on the cursor location on the screen. After a bit of checking it appears to be related to virtual screen, if the cursor is positionned at the x/y coordinate of a gnome-terminal whose content is scrolling but not displayed due to being on another virtual screen, then the cursor is redrawn as the terminal image is updated. Moving the cursor coordinate outside of the terminal area stops the flicker. Using xorg-x11 6.8.1-12, gnome-terminal-2.7.3-1, and metacity-2.8.6-2.1, hardware is Matrox 450 dual head running in xinerama mode. Excerps from /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400 AGP rev 130,... (--) Chipset mgag400 found (**) MGA(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16 (==) MGA(0): RGB weight 565 (II) MGA(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) Does this qualify as a bug ? If yes what module is most likely to be guilty ? Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Desktop team http://redhat.com/ veillard at redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From otaylor at redhat.com Mon Jan 3 19:00:32 2005 From: otaylor at redhat.com (Owen Taylor) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:00:32 -0500 Subject: Strange cursor redraws In-Reply-To: <20050103130808.GP31887@redhat.com> References: <20050103130808.GP31887@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1104778832.28836.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 08:08 -0500, Daniel Veillard wrote: > I have noticed that my cursor get redrawed generating cursor image flicker > even if I don't move the mouse or the underlying image doesn't change. It > didn't depend on the application having the focus, or over which the cursor > was drawn, but was depending on the cursor location on the screen. After a bit > of checking it appears to be related to virtual screen, if the cursor is > positionned at the x/y coordinate of a gnome-terminal whose content is > scrolling but not displayed due to being on another virtual screen, then > the cursor is redrawn as the terminal image is updated. Moving the cursor > coordinate outside of the terminal area stops the flicker. > > Using xorg-x11 6.8.1-12, gnome-terminal-2.7.3-1, and metacity-2.8.6-2.1, > hardware is Matrox 450 dual head running in xinerama mode. > Excerps from /var/log/Xorg.0.log: > (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400 AGP rev 130,... > (--) Chipset mgag400 found > (**) MGA(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16 > (==) MGA(0): RGB weight 565 > (II) MGA(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) > > Does this qualify as a bug ? If yes what module is most likely to be guilty ? Well, if your description is accurate, that would be an X server bug. It sort of sounds like something is not checking whether a window is visible before hiding the software cursor when drawing on that window. (I don't think the MGA handles alpha cursors, so the bluecurve cursor theme will give you a software cursor.) Regards, Owen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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After a bit > > of checking it appears to be related to virtual screen, if the cursor is > > positionned at the x/y coordinate of a gnome-terminal whose content is > > scrolling but not displayed due to being on another virtual screen, then > > the cursor is redrawn as the terminal image is updated. Moving the cursor > > coordinate outside of the terminal area stops the flicker. > > > > Using xorg-x11 6.8.1-12, gnome-terminal-2.7.3-1, and metacity-2.8.6-2.1, > > hardware is Matrox 450 dual head running in xinerama mode. > > Excerps from /var/log/Xorg.0.log: > > (--) PCI:*(1:0:0) Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400 AGP rev 130,... > > (--) Chipset mgag400 found > > (**) MGA(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16 > > (==) MGA(0): RGB weight 565 > > (II) MGA(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) > > > > Does this qualify as a bug ? If yes what module is most likely to be guilty ? > > Well, if your description is accurate, that would be an X server bug. It > sort of sounds like something is not checking whether a window is > visible > before hiding the software cursor when drawing on that window. > > (I don't think the MGA handles alpha cursors, so the bluecurve cursor > theme will give you a software cursor.) okay, thanks ! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=144022 Daniel -- Daniel Veillard | Red Hat Desktop team http://redhat.com/ veillard at redhat.com | libxml GNOME XML XSLT toolkit http://xmlsoft.org/ http://veillard.com/ | Rpmfind RPM search engine http://rpmfind.net/ From behdad at cs.toronto.edu Tue Jan 4 05:43:37 2005 From: behdad at cs.toronto.edu (Behdad Esfahbod) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 00:43:37 -0500 Subject: SSID manager in FC3 In-Reply-To: <1104733607.4783.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1104733061.903d90fcFilipSedivy@mail.boisestate.edu> <1104733607.4783.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 01:17, Filip Sedivy wrote: > > Hello. I would like to ask someone for a help with wireless SSID management in FC3 with Gnome. Is there such a thing? I need to easily switch between various AP's and I can't find a way how to do that within GUI? Thanks! > > Network Manager > > http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/ > > This should really be asked on the various user mailing lists and not > the devel list, just so you know next time. I really think that NetworkManager service should be on by default, at least on Desktop installations. This is one really really cool feature added in FC3, that should be explicitly turned on. > -- > J5 --behdad From stevelist at silverorange.com Thu Jan 6 04:35:35 2005 From: stevelist at silverorange.com (Steven Garrity) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 00:35:35 -0400 Subject: No Resize Gripper in Glider Theme Message-ID: <41DCC017.5050908@silverorange.com> I've noticed that the Glider theme that ships with Fedora Core 3 doesn't seem to have a resize-gripper on the bottom right corner of windows that is there in other themes (bluecurve, industrial, etc.). Is this intentional, or an oversight? Also, sorry if this isn't the appropriate list - I wasn't sure where this one should go. Steven Garrity From Gddlego at aol.com Fri Jan 7 00:44:59 2005 From: Gddlego at aol.com (Gddlego at aol.com) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 19:44:59 EST Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <29.6a03ef2e.2f0f358b@aol.com> How do I configure the ftp server in Fedora Core 3? Sorry if this isn't the right address. 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URL: From FilipSedivy at mail.boisestate.edu Fri Jan 7 03:16:42 2005 From: FilipSedivy at mail.boisestate.edu (Filip Sedivy) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 20:16:42 -0700 Subject: XMMS open file dialog box Message-ID: <1105067802.561c3d7cFilipSedivy@mail.boisestate.edu> Hello. I was just wondering if it would be possible to use the same (default) "open file" dialog box for XMMS program as Firefox and other applications in FC3 in Gnome use. The current open file dialog box used with XMMS is pretty "ugly" and it would help XMMS be more polished and consistent with Fedora. XMMS menus could use the same theme also but I guess, I should address that to the XMMS developers, right? Just and idea, though. Thanks. From walters at redhat.com Fri Jan 7 03:55:59 2005 From: walters at redhat.com (Colin Walters) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:55:59 -0500 Subject: (experimental) automatic sound mixing Message-ID: <1105070159.27205.14.camel@nexus.verbum.private> Hi, I spent a bit of time today on an ALSA-level sound mixing solution, i.e. this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=130593 Basically my solution was to allocate the IPC keys at the start of the X session, and generate an ALSA config file on login which uses those keys. This avoids issues with possible IPC key collisions and is more secure. There's a little program alsa-launch which does this. It monitors your X connection and destroys the IPC keys and such when you log out. I had to patch alsa-lib to let it read a config from a file specified an environment variable. alsa-launch is part of alsa-utils now. I'm sure some people will complain this makes alsa-utils dependent on X; I guess we'll need an alsa-utils-x11 package. Also, I needed to add alsa-launch to the X startup; however there was no programmatic way to do this in the current xinitrc setup. So I refactored the X init scripts so that packages can drop a file in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/ which adds to the DESKTOP_SERVICES environment variable. I then modified the dbus package to use this new variable. All the new packages are here: http://people.redhat.com/walters/alsa/ These are based off the new ALSA 1.0.7 packages I uploaded to rawhide today. I'd like to get feedback on this and see how well it works for people; I've just done some light tests with ogg123, rhythmbox, and xmms. Particularly interesting is recording and complex ALSA applications. Oh, and multiple sound cards. If there are no objections I'd like to feed this all into rawhide in a few days after it's gotten a bit of testing here and see how things go. Hopefully for FC4 the idea of configuring applications for different sound output backends will totally disappear. Longer term of course I'd like to not have to generate an ALSA config file in /tmp; this kind of thing just makes sense inside the alsa-lib code itself. But this was just a quick one-day hack to see how well asym could work as the default. Comments appreciated. From notting at redhat.com Fri Jan 7 04:22:57 2005 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 23:22:57 -0500 Subject: (experimental) automatic sound mixing In-Reply-To: <1105070159.27205.14.camel@nexus.verbum.private> References: <1105070159.27205.14.camel@nexus.verbum.private> Message-ID: <20050107042257.GB26288@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Colin Walters (walters at redhat.com) said: > Longer term of course I'd like to not have to generate an ALSA config > file in /tmp; this kind of thing just makes sense inside the alsa-lib > code itself. Why /tmp instead of $HOME? (In fact, why doesn't alsa-lib by default read configs out of $HOME to override /etc anyway?) Bill From notting at redhat.com Fri Jan 7 04:23:46 2005 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 23:23:46 -0500 Subject: XMMS open file dialog box In-Reply-To: <1105067802.561c3d7cFilipSedivy@mail.boisestate.edu> References: <1105067802.561c3d7cFilipSedivy@mail.boisestate.edu> Message-ID: <20050107042346.GC26288@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Filip Sedivy (FilipSedivy at mail.boisestate.edu) said: > Hello. I was just wondering if it would be possible to use the > same (default) "open file" dialog box for XMMS program as Firefox and other applications in FC3 in Gnome use. The current open file dialog box used with XMMS is pretty "ugly" and it would help XMMS be more polished and consistent with Fedora. XMMS menus could use the same theme also but I guess, I should address that to the XMMS developers, right? > Just and idea, though. Thanks. Would require actually porting the app to GTK 2 first - there are variations on this already (Beep, for one). Of course, at that point the question is do you just want to rewrite the media player itself. Bill From walters at redhat.com Fri Jan 7 04:36:44 2005 From: walters at redhat.com (Colin Walters) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 23:36:44 -0500 Subject: (experimental) automatic sound mixing In-Reply-To: <20050107042257.GB26288@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <1105070159.27205.14.camel@nexus.verbum.private> <20050107042257.GB26288@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1105072604.27205.16.camel@nexus.verbum.private> On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 23:22 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Colin Walters (walters at redhat.com) said: > > Longer term of course I'd like to not have to generate an ALSA config > > file in /tmp; this kind of thing just makes sense inside the alsa-lib > > code itself. > > Why /tmp instead of $HOME? (In fact, why doesn't alsa-lib by default > read configs out of $HOME to override /etc anyway?) NFS home dirs. From walters at redhat.com Fri Jan 7 04:57:57 2005 From: walters at redhat.com (Colin Walters) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 23:57:57 -0500 Subject: XMMS open file dialog box In-Reply-To: <20050107042346.GC26288@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <1105067802.561c3d7cFilipSedivy@mail.boisestate.edu> <20050107042346.GC26288@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1105073877.27205.20.camel@nexus.verbum.private> On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 23:23 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Filip Sedivy (FilipSedivy at mail.boisestate.edu) said: > > Hello. I was just wondering if it would be possible to use the > > same (default) "open file" dialog box for XMMS program as Firefox and other applications in FC3 in Gnome use. The current open file dialog box used with XMMS is pretty "ugly" and it would help XMMS be more polished and consistent with Fedora. XMMS menus could use the same theme also but I guess, I should address that to the XMMS developers, right? > > Just and idea, though. Thanks. > > Would require actually porting the app to GTK 2 first - there > are variations on this already (Beep, for one). Of course, at > that point the question is do you just want to rewrite the media > player itself. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=138581 In summary, I think if we just address a few minor things then totem/HelixPlayer could fulfill the role xmms plays now. From ashishv at hotpop.com Fri Jan 7 05:34:20 2005 From: ashishv at hotpop.com (ash) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:04:20 +0530 Subject: XMMS open file dialog box In-Reply-To: <1105073877.27205.20.camel@nexus.verbum.private> References: <1105067802.561c3d7cFilipSedivy@mail.boisestate.edu> <20050107042346.GC26288@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1105073877.27205.20.camel@nexus.verbum.private> Message-ID: <200501071104.23259.ashishv@hotpop.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 hi! On Friday 07 Jan 2005 10:27, Colin Walters wrote: > In summary, I think if we just address a few minor things then > totem/HelixPlayer could fulfill the role xmms plays now. just a thought, but can't amarok be included as the default media player instead of xmms? amarok is a lot more feature rich than xmms and uses gstreamer, which is generally considered better. http://amarok.kde.org/ - -- ash :) - -------------------------------------------------------- Ashish V | GPG 0F41FCFA/1EFF5281 | linux user #340732 7th Information Science ashish at xcanopus dot net | ashishv at hotpop dot com http://ashish.xcanopus.net/ - -------------------------------------------------------- What's the point of wearing your favorite rocketship underpants if nobody ever asks to see 'em? -- Calvin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB3h9fP2kFrh7/UoERAlUAAKDfA9iGZOZZl8Dh5+IftptCxCvGmgCfcVA7 Q2KpyeHnbB0a77KkGPs+SR8= =7HjE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mlists at juma.me.uk Fri Jan 7 07:28:08 2005 From: mlists at juma.me.uk (Ismael Juma) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 07:28:08 +0000 Subject: (experimental) automatic sound mixing Message-ID: <41DE3A08.4040309@juma.me.uk> Hi, I have installed the packages from your repository in my Fedora Core 3 installation (I had to rebuild dbus from the src.rpm though). From my initial testing, it works very well. I can get sound simultaneously from multiple applications (including from artsd, which is not one of the best behaved apps when using Alsa). I also tested recording multiple streams (using arecord) while Rhythmbox was playing and that also worked without any problems. Even though this worked before by putting an .asoundrc in my home directory, it is great to see it work automatically without any text file manipulation from the user. I'm sure this will be very helpful to people who are new to Linux when FC4 comes out (note that I said when as opposed to if ;)). Thanks. 8) Regards, Ismael From peter.backlund at home.se Fri Jan 7 10:17:47 2005 From: peter.backlund at home.se (Peter Backlund) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:17:47 +0100 Subject: XMMS open file dialog box In-Reply-To: <1105067802.561c3d7cFilipSedivy@mail.boisestate.edu> References: <1105067802.561c3d7cFilipSedivy@mail.boisestate.edu> Message-ID: <1105093067.4903.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> tor 2005-01-06 klockan 20:16 -0700 skrev Filip Sedivy: > Hello. I was just wondering if it would be possible to use the > same (default) "open file" dialog box for XMMS program as Firefox and other applications in FC3 in Gnome use. The current open file dialog box used with XMMS is pretty "ugly" and it would help XMMS be more polished and consistent with Fedora. XMMS menus could use the same theme also but I guess, I should address that to the XMMS developers, right? > Just and idea, though. Thanks. There is a GTK2 port/fork of XMMS called Beep Media Player (as Bill Nottingham pointed out), and it's being packaged for livna.org. If you're interested in it, please help out with QA at http://bugzilla.livna.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54 /Peter Backlund From mike at navi.cx Fri Jan 7 13:26:20 2005 From: mike at navi.cx (Mike Hearn) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:26:20 +0000 Subject: (experimental) automatic sound mixing References: <1105070159.27205.14.camel@nexus.verbum.private> Message-ID: On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:55:59 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > I had to patch alsa-lib to let it read a config from a file specified an > environment variable. Maybe we could set the environment variable to the IPC key itself then use something like: pcm.dmix { @args [ SLAVE FORMAT RATE ] @args.SLAVE { type string default "hw:0,0" } @args.FORMAT { type string default S16_LE } @args.RATE { type integer default 48000 } type dmix ipc_key { @func getenv vars [ ALSA_DMIX_IPC_KEY ] default { 12345678 } } ipc_key_add_uid no slave { pcm $SLAVE format $FORMAT rate $RATE } } pcm.!default { type plug slave "pcm.dmix" } which is a slightly modified version of the default ALSA config file. Then there'd be no need to generate config files or patch alsalib. And yes, I know, possibly ALSA should not provide a mini API in its config file but well that's an argument for upstream :) We have it, might as well use it ... thanks -mike From johnp at redhat.com Fri Jan 7 13:49:36 2005 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 08:49:36 -0500 Subject: XMMS open file dialog box In-Reply-To: <200501071104.23259.ashishv@hotpop.com> References: <1105067802.561c3d7cFilipSedivy@mail.boisestate.edu> <20050107042346.GC26288@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1105073877.27205.20.camel@nexus.verbum.private> <200501071104.23259.ashishv@hotpop.com> Message-ID: <1105105776.7486.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 00:34, ash wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > hi! > > On Friday 07 Jan 2005 10:27, Colin Walters wrote: > > In summary, I think if we just address a few minor things then > > totem/HelixPlayer could fulfill the role xmms plays now. > just a thought, but can't amarok be included as the default media player > instead of xmms? > > amarok is a lot more feature rich than xmms and uses gstreamer, which is > generally considered better. amarok seems like a candidate for Extra's but not core. Totem and HelixPlayer already ship with core and have a maintainer. A replacement for xmms just needs to be a simple music player. For something more fancy we already have RhythmBox. -- J5 From ashishv at hotpop.com Fri Jan 7 14:33:04 2005 From: ashishv at hotpop.com (ash) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 20:03:04 +0530 Subject: XMMS open file dialog box In-Reply-To: <1105105776.7486.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1105067802.561c3d7cFilipSedivy@mail.boisestate.edu> <200501071104.23259.ashishv@hotpop.com> <1105105776.7486.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <200501072003.07351.ashishv@hotpop.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 hi! On Friday 07 Jan 2005 19:19, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > > amarok seems like a candidate for Extra's but not core. Totem and > HelixPlayer already ship with core and have a maintainer. A replacement > for xmms just needs to be a simple music player. For something more how about juk then? http://developer.kde.org/~wheeler/juk.html i'm just trying to keep with default stuff than bringing a new package in. juk is a part of standard kde packages, whereas beep isn't. it'll be much easier to manage and maintain juk than beep. imo and i'm prolly wrong, too. > fancy we already have RhythmBox. > > -- > J5 - -- ash :) - -------------------------------------------------------- Ashish V | GPG 0F41FCFA/1EFF5281 | linux user #340732 7th Information Science ashish at xcanopus dot net | ashishv at hotpop dot com http://ashish.xcanopus.net/ - -------------------------------------------------------- Susie: You'd get a good grade without doing any work. Calvin: So? Susie: It's wrong to get rewards you haven't earned. Calvin: I've never heard of anyone who couldn't live with that. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB3p2jP2kFrh7/UoERAoSLAJ9HpTeZV69zrzhAXR47fhNGJHsE/gCg0vQ/ lrXrB6fTS5WTIlRHCl4Oqm8= =RXoh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From johnp at redhat.com Fri Jan 7 15:10:46 2005 From: johnp at redhat.com (John (J5) Palmieri) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:10:46 -0500 Subject: XMMS open file dialog box In-Reply-To: <200501072003.07351.ashishv@hotpop.com> References: <1105067802.561c3d7cFilipSedivy@mail.boisestate.edu> <200501071104.23259.ashishv@hotpop.com> <1105105776.7486.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200501072003.07351.ashishv@hotpop.com> Message-ID: <1105110646.3699.3.camel@remedyz.boston.redhat.com> On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 20:03 +0530, ash wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > hi! > > On Friday 07 Jan 2005 19:19, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > > > > amarok seems like a candidate for Extra's but not core. Totem and > > HelixPlayer already ship with core and have a maintainer. A replacement > > for xmms just needs to be a simple music player. For something more > how about juk then? http://developer.kde.org/~wheeler/juk.html > > i'm just trying to keep with default stuff than bringing a new package in. juk > is a part of standard kde packages, whereas beep isn't. it'll be much easier > to manage and maintain juk than beep. imo and i'm prolly wrong, too. Since this thread is about consistency of the open file dialog I don't think Juk fits the bill either. > > > fancy we already have RhythmBox. > > > > -- > > J5 > > - -- > ash :) > - -------------------------------------------------------- > Ashish V | GPG 0F41FCFA/1EFF5281 | linux user #340732 > 7th Information Science > > ashish at xcanopus dot net | ashishv at hotpop dot com > http://ashish.xcanopus.net/ > - -------------------------------------------------------- > > Susie: You'd get a good grade without doing any work. > Calvin: So? > Susie: It's wrong to get rewards you haven't earned. > Calvin: I've never heard of anyone who couldn't live with that. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFB3p2jP2kFrh7/UoERAoSLAJ9HpTeZV69zrzhAXR47fhNGJHsE/gCg0vQ/ > lrXrB6fTS5WTIlRHCl4Oqm8= > =RXoh > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- John (J5) Palmieri Associate Software Engineer Desktop Group Red Hat, Inc. Blog: http://martianrock.com From walters at redhat.com Fri Jan 7 19:00:13 2005 From: walters at redhat.com (Colin Walters) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 14:00:13 -0500 Subject: (experimental) automatic sound mixing In-Reply-To: <41DE3A08.4040309@juma.me.uk> References: <41DE3A08.4040309@juma.me.uk> Message-ID: <1105124413.27205.34.camel@nexus.verbum.private> On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 07:28 +0000, Ismael Juma wrote: > Even though this worked before by putting an .asoundrc in my home > directory, it is great to see it work automatically without any text > file manipulation from the user. I'm sure this will be very helpful to > people who are new to Linux when FC4 comes out (note that I said when as > opposed to if ;)). Ok, cool. Just as a quick sanity check, you did move your existing ~/.asoundrc out of the way first right? From mlists at juma.me.uk Fri Jan 7 19:07:41 2005 From: mlists at juma.me.uk (Ismael Juma) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 19:07:41 +0000 Subject: (experimental) automatic sound mixing In-Reply-To: <1105124413.27205.34.camel@nexus.verbum.private> References: <41DE3A08.4040309@juma.me.uk> <1105124413.27205.34.camel@nexus.verbum.private> Message-ID: <41DEDDFD.3040900@juma.me.uk> Colin Walters wrote: > Ok, cool. Just as a quick sanity check, you did move your existing > ~/.asoundrc out of the way first right? Yeap. 8) From sumeet909 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 7 21:30:50 2005 From: sumeet909 at yahoo.com (Sumeet Brar) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:30:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <20050107213050.91067.qmail@web53910.mail.yahoo.com> I have Linux and XP simultaneously installed on my system. I have a Wireless USB adapter attached to the USB port and it works fine with XP. But I can't get it to work with linux so that I can have internet on Linux. It would be great if someone can help me with the setting up the internet. Thanks, Sumeet. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From jeffy5 at optonline.net Sat Jan 8 05:08:34 2005 From: jeffy5 at optonline.net (Jeffrey D. Yuille) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 00:08:34 -0500 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20050107213050.91067.qmail@web53910.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050107213050.91067.qmail@web53910.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1105160914.3695.2.camel@jeffrey.jeffsdomain.net> On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 13:30 -0800, Sumeet Brar wrote: > I have Linux and XP simultaneously installed on my > system. I have a Wireless USB adapter attached to the > USB port and it works fine with XP. But I can't get it > to work with linux so that I can have internet on > Linux. It would be great if someone can help me with > the setting up the internet. > > Thanks, > Sumeet. > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > Hello Sumeet, What kind of USB adapter do you have? It may or may not be compatible with your version of Linux. By the way, what version of Fedora are you using (Fedora Core 1,2,or 3) ? From walters at redhat.com Sat Jan 8 06:30:57 2005 From: walters at redhat.com (Colin Walters) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 01:30:57 -0500 Subject: (experimental) automatic sound mixing In-Reply-To: References: <1105070159.27205.14.camel@nexus.verbum.private> Message-ID: <1105165857.10578.2.camel@nexus.verbum.private> On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 13:26 +0000, Mike Hearn wrote: > On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:55:59 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > I had to patch alsa-lib to let it read a config from a file specified an > > environment variable. > > Maybe we could set the environment variable to the IPC key itself > then use something like: Good idea. I hacked this up a bit to fix some bugs and add a few more default buffer size bits, and uploaded it and alsa-launch to rawhide. Once this patch goes in: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=144554 alsa-launch will run and asym should be transparently enabled. From jeffy5 at optonline.net Sat Jan 8 07:35:35 2005 From: jeffy5 at optonline.net (Jeffrey D. Yuille) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 02:35:35 -0500 Subject: Printing Over A LAN Network Message-ID: <1105169735.9758.3.camel@jeffrey.jeffsdomain.net> Hello, I have just configured printing over a small LAN using CUPS. However, when I begin to print, it takes about three minutes for a print job to leave the queue and go to the printer. Has anyone ever experienced this before? How do I correct this problem. I would generally click on the printer icon on the task bar and it says that printing began three minutes ago. It is generally around this time when each individual print job begins. From fsmith at web-links.net Sat Jan 8 11:47:56 2005 From: fsmith at web-links.net (Frank smith) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 11:47:56 +0000 Subject: Printing Over A LAN Network In-Reply-To: <1105169735.9758.3.camel@jeffrey.jeffsdomain.net> References: <1105169735.9758.3.camel@jeffrey.jeffsdomain.net> Message-ID: <1105184876.3377.17.camel@bear.rokpa> Hi I have had the same problem I think its something to do with the way windows compresses the data before the printer gets it. Cups doesnt do this. The only way I have got round this although still slower than XP is using postscript direct to the printer ( If you printer can do this) Cheers Bob On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 02:35 -0500, Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: > Hello, > > I have just configured printing over a small LAN using CUPS. > However, when I begin to print, it takes about three minutes for a print > job to leave the queue and go to the printer. Has anyone ever > experienced this before? How do I correct this problem. I would > generally click on the printer icon on the task bar and it says that > printing began three minutes ago. It is generally around this time when > each individual print job begins. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike at navi.cx Sat Jan 8 15:25:22 2005 From: mike at navi.cx (Mike Hearn) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 15:25:22 +0000 Subject: (experimental) automatic sound mixing References: <1105070159.27205.14.camel@nexus.verbum.private> <1105165857.10578.2.camel@nexus.verbum.private> Message-ID: On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 01:30:57 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > Good idea. I hacked this up a bit to fix some bugs and add a few more > default buffer size bits, and uploaded it and alsa-launch to rawhide. Cool. If this works out it'd be nice to get alsa-launch upstream and have some document on the ALSA wiki explaining how other distribution vendors can set this up. thanks -mike From sumeet909 at yahoo.com Sat Jan 8 16:58:22 2005 From: sumeet909 at yahoo.com (Sumeet Brar) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 08:58:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1105160914.3695.2.camel@jeffrey.jeffsdomain.net> Message-ID: <20050108165822.8405.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Jeffrey, I have fedora core 1 and a linksys USB adapter. Thanks, Sumeet. --- "Jeffrey D. Yuille" wrote: > On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 13:30 -0800, Sumeet Brar > wrote: > > I have Linux and XP simultaneously installed on my > > system. I have a Wireless USB adapter attached to > the > > USB port and it works fine with XP. But I can't > get it > > to work with linux so that I can have internet on > > Linux. It would be great if someone can help me > with > > the setting up the internet. > > > > Thanks, > > Sumeet. > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage > less. > > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > Hello Sumeet, > > What kind of USB adapter do you have? It may > or may not be > compatible with your version of Linux. By the way, > what version of > Fedora are you using (Fedora Core 1,2,or 3) ? > > -- > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From hp at redhat.com Sat Jan 8 17:19:44 2005 From: hp at redhat.com (Havoc Pennington) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:19:44 -0500 Subject: No Resize Gripper in Glider Theme In-Reply-To: <41DCC017.5050908@silverorange.com> References: <41DCC017.5050908@silverorange.com> Message-ID: <1105204784.5141.39.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 00:35 -0400, Steven Garrity wrote: > I've noticed that the Glider theme that ships with Fedora Core 3 doesn't > seem to have a resize-gripper on the bottom right corner of windows that > is there in other themes (bluecurve, industrial, etc.). > > Is this intentional, or an oversight? Also, sorry if this isn't the > appropriate list - I wasn't sure where this one should go. I doubt we changed this in a Fedora-specific way; surely it's just inherited from whatever stock version of the theme we included? Havoc From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sat Jan 8 18:22:01 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:22:01 +0100 Subject: Printing Over A LAN Network In-Reply-To: <1105184876.3377.17.camel@bear.rokpa> References: <1105169735.9758.3.camel@jeffrey.jeffsdomain.net> <1105184876.3377.17.camel@bear.rokpa> Message-ID: <1105208521.2739.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> l?r, 08.01.2005 kl. 12.47 skrev Frank smith: > Hi > I have had the same problem > > I think its something to do with the way windows compresses the data > before the printer gets it. > Cups doesnt do this. > The only way I have got round this although still slower than XP is > using postscript direct to the printer > ( If you printer can do this) > > Cheers > Bob > > > On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 02:35 -0500, Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have just configured printing over a small LAN using CUPS. > > However, when I begin to print, it takes about three minutes for a print > > job to leave the queue and go to the printer. Has anyone ever > > experienced this before? How do I correct this problem. I would > > generally click on the printer icon on the task bar and it says that > > printing began three minutes ago. It is generally around this time when > > each individual print job begins. > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Are you sure there ain't any DNS problems here? If you ping the machine sharing the printer, is it sucessfull? Can you do a tethereal dump while doing that? I personally admin a cups server on a small network my self, and havent seen any problems... From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sat Jan 8 18:23:02 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 19:23:02 +0100 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20050108165822.8405.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050108165822.8405.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1105208582.2739.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> What linksys adapter? Can you do a lsusb -v (as root) in linux? Have you tried googeling for it? l?r, 08.01.2005 kl. 17.58 skrev Sumeet Brar: > Hi Jeffrey, > > I have fedora core 1 and a linksys USB adapter. > Thanks, > > Sumeet. > > --- "Jeffrey D. Yuille" wrote: > > > On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 13:30 -0800, Sumeet Brar > > wrote: > > > I have Linux and XP simultaneously installed on my > > > system. I have a Wireless USB adapter attached to > > the > > > USB port and it works fine with XP. But I can't > > get it > > > to work with linux so that I can have internet on > > > Linux. It would be great if someone can help me > > with > > > the setting up the internet. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Sumeet. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage > > less. > > > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > > Hello Sumeet, > > > > What kind of USB adapter do you have? It may > > or may not be > > compatible with your version of Linux. By the way, > > what version of > > Fedora are you using (Fedora Core 1,2,or 3) ? > > > > -- > > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com From jeffy5 at optonline.net Sat Jan 8 19:23:31 2005 From: jeffy5 at optonline.net (Jeffrey D. Yuille) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:23:31 -0500 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20050108165822.8405.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050108165822.8405.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1105212211.3530.2.camel@jeffrey.jeffsdomain.net> On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 08:58 -0800, Sumeet Brar wrote: > Hi Jeffrey, > > I have fedora core 1 and a linksys USB adapter. > Thanks, > > Sumeet. > > --- "Jeffrey D. Yuille" wrote: > > > On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 13:30 -0800, Sumeet Brar > > wrote: > > > I have Linux and XP simultaneously installed on my > > > system. I have a Wireless USB adapter attached to > > the > > > USB port and it works fine with XP. But I can't > > get it > > > to work with linux so that I can have internet on > > > Linux. It would be great if someone can help me > > with > > > the setting up the internet. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Sumeet. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage > > less. > > > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > > Hello Sumeet, > > > > What kind of USB adapter do you have? It may > > or may not be > > compatible with your version of Linux. By the way, > > what version of > > Fedora are you using (Fedora Core 1,2,or 3) ? > > > > -- > > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Hello Sumeet, Thanks for the reply. The kernel of your version of Fedora Core may not support the USB adapter. You may want to upgrade (if you hardware configuration can support it). I am currently running Fedora Core 3. You may want to give it a try. From behdad at cs.toronto.edu Sun Jan 9 02:22:48 2005 From: behdad at cs.toronto.edu (Behdad Esfahbod) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:22:48 -0500 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1105212211.3530.2.camel@jeffrey.jeffsdomain.net> References: <20050108165822.8405.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com> <1105212211.3530.2.camel@jeffrey.jeffsdomain.net> Message-ID: Guys, what's up on this recently? I see many "user" questions are directly answered here, with no "fedora-list is the right list for this question" kind of reply. May I suggest that we do not answer user questions here and just direct them there? please? Thanks behdad On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: > On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 08:58 -0800, Sumeet Brar wrote: > > Hi Jeffrey, > > > > I have fedora core 1 and a linksys USB adapter. > > Thanks, > > > > Sumeet. > > > > --- "Jeffrey D. Yuille" wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 13:30 -0800, Sumeet Brar > > > wrote: > > > > I have Linux and XP simultaneously installed on my > > > > system. I have a Wireless USB adapter attached to > > > the > > > > USB port and it works fine with XP. But I can't > > > get it > > > > to work with linux so that I can have internet on > > > > Linux. It would be great if someone can help me > > > with > > > > the setting up the internet. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sumeet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage > > > less. > > > > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > > > Hello Sumeet, > > > > > > What kind of USB adapter do you have? It may > > > or may not be > > > compatible with your version of Linux. By the way, > > > what version of > > > Fedora are you using (Fedora Core 1,2,or 3) ? > > > > > > -- > > > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > > > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > > > > > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > Hello Sumeet, > > Thanks for the reply. The kernel of your version of Fedora Core > may not support the USB adapter. You may want to upgrade (if you > hardware configuration can support it). I am currently running Fedora > Core 3. You may want to give it a try. > > --behdad http://behdad.org/ From w5set at alltel.net Sun Jan 9 05:23:03 2005 From: w5set at alltel.net (Steve Thacker) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:23:03 -0600 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: <20050108165822.8405.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com> <1105212211.3530.2.camel@jeffrey.jeffsdomain.net> Message-ID: <41E0BFB7.40100@alltel.net> Hay--looks like an icon that should be showing up on his DESKTOP to me--if ya'll want to be really picky about the little sh#T what goes to which "LIST"--then make damn sure the LIST shows up in your damn email subject lines---every damn list I am subcribed to does this trash--LIST your email LIST so the rest of us just plain old users can figure out which is the proper "LIST" or place for the asking---by the way--- oh great sages of the protected subject DESKTOP LIST---what in the world do or can we ask of something most figure that pertains to crap that should be "SHOWING" on a desktop? do we just help write the code that displays the desktop---or do we nit-pick the bland washed out colors as just plain old users? or what can the allowed subject be for stuff that should be showing/usable from the desktop?????????? EGAD---Behdad---the email list isn't a big list every day--it can be downloaded in just a few seconds even from a dialup. Most of these lists are bewildering in what can be asked/where/when etc. Even better, some of you guru's get together and PUBLISH the what/who/when/where list of all lists---then make it readable by us--just the users--plain old people that do your in depth testing so ya'll can get on to bigger and better things on the bleeding edge of programming---now for this I DO THANK YOU!!!! we need you --but then again--you need us---looks like a good relationship to me---just don't get too nit-picky, as this LIST(s) place isn't a real clear cut place to ask anything---go look for yourself at the choises and then come back here and tell me where this feller should have asked about why his program didn't pop an ICON on his desktop to USE......................in the mean time--chill--relax--remember back to when YOU were trying to learn to use the keyboard--cuz you damn sure weren't born with one in your hands---some of us "users" are rather newbies to the LINUX language--chill and help--or just do what I do--look straight above to the little ICONS taskbar---see the little button that says delete--use it my friend--I do as most of the stuff coming throught this mailing list isn't very useful to me--some is--those I save in another little folder on the left side---all of which shows up ON MY DESKTOP of LINUX---or windows like where I am writing this reply to you and the other guru's that I need in this fast paced mailing list--hi-hi .....................steve w5set at alltel.net (for the flames to start and NOT be showing up in the "MAILING" list--we certainly wouldn't want OFF-topic stuff messing up the orderly flow of things would we?) Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > Guys, what's up on this recently? I see many "user" questions > are directly answered here, with no "fedora-list is the right > list for this question" kind of reply. May I suggest that we do > not answer user questions here and just direct them there? > please? > > Thanks > behdad > > > On Sat, 8 Jan 2005, Jeffrey D. Yuille wrote: > > >>On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 08:58 -0800, Sumeet Brar wrote: >> >>>Hi Jeffrey, >>> >>>I have fedora core 1 and a linksys USB adapter. >>>Thanks, >>> >>>Sumeet. >>> From w5set at alltel.net Sun Jan 9 05:54:11 2005 From: w5set at alltel.net (Steve Thacker) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:54:11 -0600 Subject: (no subject)==OFF TOPIC--well maybe not In-Reply-To: <41E0BFB7.40100@alltel.net> References: <20050108165822.8405.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com> <1105212211.3530.2.camel@jeffrey.jeffsdomain.net> <41E0BFB7.40100@alltel.net> Message-ID: <41E0C703.2070402@alltel.net> another Little Small Detail---see below what I did to the topic/answer emails? If all are so impressed with effeciency/off topic subjects and so many lines taking up so much of the time (rather limited in my case too) that could be spent productively elsewhere, then edit the conversation down a little. Just about all of the modern email clients (accessible from the desktop!) will do just that, and just to show you, I did! Edit out most of the text--just down to the bare stuff that will keep the topic going along easily. that and please get orderly--put your answers on either the top of your reply's or at the bottom. By the time several of ya'll have answered and replied to a topic, even firefox makes so many lines alongside the topic as to make it unreadable (http enabled cuz I too live on the edge) Ohhh-by the way Behdad, good looking Webpage. It conveyes a lot of your culture and heritage, which I admire by the way. The Mid-east was the birthplace of modern culture. See, even I like life a certain way. But then again I am understanding, and very flexible, and adaptable to others way of doing things. ...................steve w5set at alltel.net Steve Thacker wrote: > Hay--looks like an icon that should be showing up on his DESKTOP to > me- > > Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > >> Guys, what's up on this recently? I see many "user" questions >>lease? >> >> Thanks >> behdad > >>>> I have fedora core 1 and a linksys USB adapter. >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Sumeet. From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sun Jan 9 16:25:00 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:25:00 +0100 Subject: (no subject)==OFF TOPIC--well maybe not In-Reply-To: <41E0C703.2070402@alltel.net> References: <20050108165822.8405.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com> <1105212211.3530.2.camel@jeffrey.jeffsdomain.net> <41E0BFB7.40100@alltel.net> <41E0C703.2070402@alltel.net> Message-ID: <1105287899.4932.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> If you tried to express anything, i didn't read it. To much noise. s?n, 09.01.2005 kl. 06.54 skrev Steve Thacker: > another Little Small Detail---see below what I did to the topic/answer > emails? If all are so impressed with effeciency/off topic subjects and > so many lines taking up so much of the time (rather limited in my case > too) that could be spent productively elsewhere, then edit the > conversation down a little. Just about all of the modern email clients > (accessible from the desktop!) will do just that, and just to show you, > I did! > Edit out most of the text--just down to the bare stuff that will keep > the topic going along easily. that and please get orderly--put your > answers on either the top of your reply's or at the bottom. By the time > several of ya'll have answered and replied to a topic, even firefox > makes so many lines alongside the topic as to make it unreadable (http > enabled cuz I too live on the edge) > Ohhh-by the way Behdad, good looking Webpage. It conveyes a lot of your > culture and heritage, which I admire by the way. The Mid-east was the > birthplace of modern culture. > See, even I like life a certain way. But then again I am understanding, > and very flexible, and adaptable to others way of doing things. > ...................steve w5set at alltel.net > > Steve Thacker wrote: > > > Hay--looks like an icon that should be showing up on his DESKTOP to > > me- > > > > Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > > > >> Guys, what's up on this recently? I see many "user" questions > >>lease? > >> > >> Thanks > >> behdad > > > >>>> I have fedora core 1 and a linksys USB adapter. > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Sumeet. From harald at redhat.com Mon Jan 10 16:48:59 2005 From: harald at redhat.com (Harald Hoyer) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:48:59 +0100 Subject: Professionalism In-Reply-To: <20041111.065903.12238.134202@webmail32.nyc.untd.com> References: <20041111.065903.12238.134202@webmail32.nyc.untd.com> Message-ID: <41E2B1FB.2060003@redhat.com> You are right, "WebCollage" really displayed some hardcore porn pictures in my test run. So that thing should really not be part of the xscreensavers package. We cannot keep the "%poisoners" dictionary current in the perl script, so just forget it. From alsofronie at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 15:03:49 2005 From: alsofronie at gmail.com (Alex) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:03:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Grub Message-ID: Hello, I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I ran out of solutions, so please help me. I have two disks, one IDE and one SATA. The IDE is installed with grub (and fedora core 2) and SATA has Windows XP on it. My grub.conf: #-------------------- default=0 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Fedora Code (2.6.5-1.358) root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.358 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.5-1.358.img title MS Windows XP rootnoverify(hd1,0) chainloader +1 #------------------------- The device.map file: #-------------------------- (fd0) /dev/fd0 (hd0) /dev/hda (hd1) /dev/sda #-------------------------- The SATA drive is seen correctly (I think) by the linux system (I cannot mount partitions for now, because I lack ntfs support in kernel -- is still the default installation kernel running). Please help me!!! From kaspars at os.lv Wed Jan 12 16:40:37 2005 From: kaspars at os.lv (Kaspars) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:40:37 +0200 Subject: Keyboard switcher manual set string Message-ID: <41E55305.4050007@os.lv> Hi from Latvia, I have one q. I use latvian characters with ['] not with [alt], how most of Latvians. Normaly if i setup Latvian keyboard it write: $setxkbmap lv (what will be "setxkbmap lv -variant basic") But I need: $setxkbmap lv -variant apostrophe where I can manualy change string what to execute? I setup it, bet after I upgrade with yum it change back to old style. thanks, Casper From behdad at cs.toronto.edu Wed Jan 12 18:03:22 2005 From: behdad at cs.toronto.edu (Behdad Esfahbod) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:03:22 -0500 Subject: Grub In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The right place is here: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Alex wrote: > Hello, > > I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but I ran out of solutions, so > please help me. > > I have two disks, one IDE and one SATA. The IDE is installed with grub (and > fedora core 2) and SATA has Windows XP on it. > > My grub.conf: > #-------------------- > default=0 > timeout=10 > splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz > title Fedora Code (2.6.5-1.358) > root (hd0,0) > kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.358 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet > initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.5-1.358.img > title MS Windows XP > rootnoverify(hd1,0) > chainloader +1 > #------------------------- > > The device.map file: > #-------------------------- > (fd0) /dev/fd0 > (hd0) /dev/hda > (hd1) /dev/sda > #-------------------------- > > The SATA drive is seen correctly (I think) by the linux system (I cannot mount > partitions for now, because I lack ntfs support in kernel -- is still the > default installation kernel running). > > Please help me!!! > > --behdad http://behdad.org/ From kaspars at os.lv Fri Jan 14 11:23:48 2005 From: kaspars at os.lv (Kaspars) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:23:48 +0200 Subject: Keyboard switcher manual set string In-Reply-To: <200501141059.j0EAxhOK087283@www5.pochta.ru> References: <200501141059.j0EAxhOK087283@www5.pochta.ru> Message-ID: <41E7ABC4.5070909@os.lv> Sergey V. Udaltsov wrote: > Hi > > OK, I finally got it (with clean FC3 installation). > There is NO \'apostrophe\' variant within xorg latvian > layout (actually here is only one variant - the basic, > default one). Yep, finaly :) > So you cannot do much about it - but add > it manually. First you have to modify > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/lv - then, add to the > in xorg.xml. Sorry... Hmm, and I just understand that default is not: http://www.laka.lv/tiki/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=3 files. In this page is mention(Mon 26 of Apr, 2004) that it is submited to X.org CVS, so I was thinkg that Federa 3 is already with those files... So how can somebody put maybe update those files to better use of Latvian keyboard? Most of Latvians use it, how I understand Debian is now using it too etc. And add option to Keyboard Indicator to have apostrophe option of dead key, most of Latvian use it (I think 90%). Casper From pauloo at lucent.com Fri Jan 14 15:09:00 2005 From: pauloo at lucent.com (Oguike, Paul (Paul)) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:09:00 -0600 Subject: Keyboard switcher manual set string Message-ID: <54E40201497DF142B06B27255953F7971222913D@il0015exch007u.ih.lucent.com> Hi all. I installed Linux (Ffedora) in one harddrive, and window XP in another harddrive of the same PC. It boots from Linux, but displays the following: Linux Other I have 5 seconds to select either of the 2 options. After 5 seconds, it authomatically selects Linux if I don't select "other (the other refers to Window XP)". I need support in configuring for the following: * Change the "other" option to "Wndow XP" * Change the option timing from 5 seconds to 20 seconds. Regards, Paul From fsmith at web-links.net Fri Jan 14 15:20:20 2005 From: fsmith at web-links.net (Frank smith) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:20:20 +0000 Subject: Keyboard switcher manual set string In-Reply-To: <54E40201497DF142B06B27255953F7971222913D@il0015exch007u.ih.lucent.com> References: <54E40201497DF142B06B27255953F7971222913D@il0015exch007u.ih.lucent.com> Message-ID: <1105716020.20720.22.camel@bear.rokpa> HI Login as root fire up gedit: open /boot/grub/grub.conf You'll see something like this: ******************************************************************************* [root at bear bob]# cat /boot/grub/grub.conf # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root (hd0,0) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/hda default=0 timeout=5 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz hiddenmenu title Fedora Core (2.6.10-1.741_FC3) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.10-1.741_FC3 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.10-1.741_FC3.img title Fedora Core (2.6.10-1.737_FC3) root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.10-1.737_FC3 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet initrd /initrd-2.6.10-1.737_FC3.img ***************************************************************************************************************************************** Look for title Other and change it to WinXP under it you should have also root no verify ( which is some windoze thing ) You can change the time to wait in: #boot=/dev/hda default=0 timeout=5 Change timeout to more if need be. When you get bored with XP you can bin it! Cheers Bob On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 09:09 -0600, Oguike, Paul (Paul) wrote: > Hi all. > > I installed Linux (Ffedora) in one harddrive, and window XP in another harddrive of the same PC. It boots from Linux, but displays the following: > Linux > Other > I have 5 seconds to select either of the 2 options. After 5 seconds, it authomatically selects Linux if I don't select "other (the other refers to Window XP)". > > I need support in configuring for the following: > * Change the "other" option to "Wndow XP" > * Change the option timing from 5 seconds to 20 seconds. > > > Regards, > > Paul > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From breun at xs4all.nl Fri Jan 14 15:45:59 2005 From: breun at xs4all.nl (Nils Breunese) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:45:59 +0100 Subject: Keyboard switcher manual set string In-Reply-To: <54E40201497DF142B06B27255953F7971222913D@il0015exch007u.ih.lucent.com> References: <54E40201497DF142B06B27255953F7971222913D@il0015exch007u.ih.lucent.com> Message-ID: <1105717559.6301.33.camel@breuniac> Paul wrote: > I installed Linux (Ffedora) in one harddrive, and window XP in another > harddrive of the same PC. It boots from Linux, but displays the following: > Linux > Other > I have 5 seconds to select either of the 2 options. After 5 seconds, it > authomatically selects Linux if I don't select "other (the other refers > to Window XP)". > > I need support in configuring for the following: > * Change the "other" option to "Wndow XP" > * Change the option timing from 5 seconds to 20 seconds. Open a terminal. Type "su -" to login to root. Now, you need to edit /etc/grub.conf (which is a symlink to /boot/grub/grub.conf, so it doesn't matter which one you edit). You can use a simple text editor like nano ("nano /etc/grub.conf"), or vim or something else if you're more familiar with. You can even start a graphical editor like gedit ("gedit /etc/grub.conf"). Here you can change GRUB's (GRand Unified Bootloader) settings. Change "title Other" to "title Windows XP" and change "timeout=3" to "timeout=20". That should do it. Save and exit. Please note that this list is actually not for these kinds of questions. Please subscribe to the Fedora Users list: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Nils Breunese. From breun at xs4all.nl Fri Jan 14 15:53:32 2005 From: breun at xs4all.nl (Nils Breunese) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:53:32 +0100 Subject: Keyboard switcher manual set string In-Reply-To: <1105716020.20720.22.camel@bear.rokpa> References: <54E40201497DF142B06B27255953F7971222913D@il0015exch007u.ih.lucent.com> <1105716020.20720.22.camel@bear.rokpa> Message-ID: <1105718012.6301.40.camel@breuniac> Bob wrote: > under it you should have also > root > no verify ( which is some windoze thing ) Actually it looks more like this: title Windows XP rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader +1 Also, rootnoverify is not some specific Windows thing: "rootnoverify device [hdbias] Similar to root (see root), but don't attempt to mount the partition. This is useful for when an OS is outside of the area of the disk that GRUB can read, but setting the correct root device is still desired. Note that the items mentioned in root above which derived from attempting the mount will not work correctly." http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/rootnoverify.html Sorry Bob, I didn't catch your instructions before typing mine up. Think we helped Paul though. Nils Breunese. P.S. Paul, please next time start a new thread when instead of replying to a message in another thread that has nothing to do with your question. From fsmith at web-links.net Fri Jan 14 16:12:33 2005 From: fsmith at web-links.net (Frank smith) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:12:33 +0000 Subject: Keyboard switcher manual set string In-Reply-To: <1105718012.6301.40.camel@breuniac> References: <54E40201497DF142B06B27255953F7971222913D@il0015exch007u.ih.lucent.com> <1105716020.20720.22.camel@bear.rokpa> <1105718012.6301.40.camel@breuniac> Message-ID: <1105719153.21978.2.camel@bear.rokpa> HI Nils I was on my Other linux box and haven't looked at the xp/Linux box in ages He should be able to work it now. cheers Bob On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 16:53 +0100, Nils Breunese wrote: > Bob wrote: > > > under it you should have also > > root > > no verify ( which is some windoze thing ) > > Actually it looks more like this: > > title Windows XP > rootnoverify (hd0,0) > chainloader +1 > > Also, rootnoverify is not some specific Windows thing: > > "rootnoverify device [hdbias] > Similar to root (see root), but don't attempt to mount the partition. > This is useful for when an OS is outside of the area of the disk that > GRUB can read, but setting the correct root device is still desired. > Note that the items mentioned in root above which derived from > attempting the mount will not work correctly." > http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/rootnoverify.html > > Sorry Bob, I didn't catch your instructions before typing mine up. Think > we helped Paul though. > > Nils Breunese. > > P.S. Paul, please next time start a new thread when instead of replying > to a message in another thread that has nothing to do with your > question. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kyrre at solution-forge.net Fri Jan 14 16:57:39 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:57:39 +0100 Subject: Keyboard switcher manual set string In-Reply-To: <1105717559.6301.33.camel@breuniac> References: <54E40201497DF142B06B27255953F7971222913D@il0015exch007u.ih.lucent.com> <1105717559.6301.33.camel@breuniac> Message-ID: <1105721859.4145.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> You migth also want to comment out the "hiddenmenu" option - so it reads "#hiddenmenu". This enables the menu directly without having to press any key. To select which OS should be loaded by default, set the "default" setting - 0 is the "uppermost" entry. fre, 14.01.2005 kl. 16.45 skrev Nils Breunese: > Paul wrote: > > > I installed Linux (Ffedora) in one harddrive, and window XP in another > > harddrive of the same PC. It boots from Linux, but displays the following: > > Linux > > Other > > I have 5 seconds to select either of the 2 options. After 5 seconds, it > > authomatically selects Linux if I don't select "other (the other refers > > to Window XP)". > > > > I need support in configuring for the following: > > * Change the "other" option to "Wndow XP" > > * Change the option timing from 5 seconds to 20 seconds. > > Open a terminal. Type "su -" to login to root. Now, you need to > edit /etc/grub.conf (which is a symlink to /boot/grub/grub.conf, so it > doesn't matter which one you edit). > > You can use a simple text editor like nano ("nano /etc/grub.conf"), or > vim or something else if you're more familiar with. You can even start a > graphical editor like gedit ("gedit /etc/grub.conf"). > > Here you can change GRUB's (GRand Unified Bootloader) settings. Change > "title Other" to "title Windows XP" and change "timeout=3" to > "timeout=20". That should do it. Save and exit. > > Please note that this list is actually not for these kinds of questions. > Please subscribe to the Fedora Users list: > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > Nils Breunese. From breun at xs4all.nl Fri Jan 14 17:18:11 2005 From: breun at xs4all.nl (Nils Breunese) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:18:11 +0100 Subject: Keyboard switcher manual set string In-Reply-To: <1105721859.4145.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <54E40201497DF142B06B27255953F7971222913D@il0015exch007u.ih.lucent.com> <1105717559.6301.33.camel@breuniac> <1105721859.4145.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1105723091.7201.2.camel@breuniac> Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > You migth also want to comment out the "hiddenmenu" option - so it reads > "#hiddenmenu". This enables the menu directly without having to press > any key. > > To select which OS should be loaded by default, set the "default" > setting - 0 is the "uppermost" entry. I just realised there's also system-config-boot (also found in the System Settings menu) which let's you set the standard boot item and timeout. Unfortunately it doesn't let you change the names of the different items. Nils. From fsmith at web-links.net Fri Jan 14 17:25:03 2005 From: fsmith at web-links.net (Frank smith) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:25:03 +0000 Subject: Keyboard switcher manual set string In-Reply-To: <1105723091.7201.2.camel@breuniac> References: <54E40201497DF142B06B27255953F7971222913D@il0015exch007u.ih.lucent.com> <1105717559.6301.33.camel@breuniac> <1105721859.4145.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1105723091.7201.2.camel@breuniac> Message-ID: <1105723503.22142.0.camel@bear.rokpa> I never realised that you could config from Gnome. Is that just from FC 3? Bob On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 18:18 +0100, Nils Breunese wrote: > Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > > You migth also want to comment out the "hiddenmenu" option - so it reads > > "#hiddenmenu". This enables the menu directly without having to press > > any key. > > > > To select which OS should be loaded by default, set the "default" > > setting - 0 is the "uppermost" entry. > > I just realised there's also system-config-boot (also found in the > System Settings menu) which let's you set the standard boot item and > timeout. Unfortunately it doesn't let you change the names of the > different items. > > Nils. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From breun at xs4all.nl Fri Jan 14 19:13:07 2005 From: breun at xs4all.nl (Nils Breunese) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:13:07 +0100 Subject: Keyboard switcher manual set string In-Reply-To: <1105723503.22142.0.camel@bear.rokpa> References: <54E40201497DF142B06B27255953F7971222913D@il0015exch007u.ih.lucent.com> <1105717559.6301.33.camel@breuniac> <1105721859.4145.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1105723091.7201.2.camel@breuniac> <1105723503.22142.0.camel@bear.rokpa> Message-ID: <1105729987.7523.3.camel@breuniac> Bob wrote: > I never realised that you could config from Gnome. > Is that just from FC 3? I believe it's also available for FC2. Don't know if it's installed by default, otherwise just yum install system-config-boot. Nils. From malists at epon.ro Sat Jan 15 07:35:10 2005 From: malists at epon.ro (Marius Andreiana) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:35:10 +0200 Subject: gnome 2.10, fc4 and drop-shadows In-Reply-To: <20050114223020.GA7168@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <20050114223020.GA7168@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1105774511.3503.15.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> With FC4 which includes gnome 2.10, are there any plans to enable drop- shadows by default with x.org extensions? (not cpu-intensive) Thanks! From mike at navi.cx Sat Jan 15 14:25:38 2005 From: mike at navi.cx (Mike Hearn) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:25:38 +0000 Subject: gnome 2.10, fc4 and drop-shadows References: <20050114223020.GA7168@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1105774511.3503.15.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:35:10 +0200, Marius Andreiana wrote: > With FC4 which includes gnome 2.10, are there any plans to enable drop- > shadows by default with x.org extensions? (not cpu-intensive) As far as I'm aware X compositing will be enabled in Fedora when it's enabled by default in upstream Xorg releases. My understanding is that right now there are still problems with it w.r.t memory usage and driver compatibility. From felipe_alfaro at linuxmail.org Sat Jan 15 14:34:15 2005 From: felipe_alfaro at linuxmail.org (Felipe Alfaro Solana) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:34:15 +0100 Subject: gnome 2.10, fc4 and drop-shadows In-Reply-To: References: <20050114223020.GA7168@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1105774511.3503.15.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <8820CE3D-6702-11D9-A4F6-000D9352858E@linuxmail.org> On 15 Jan 2005, at 15:25, Mike Hearn wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:35:10 +0200, Marius Andreiana wrote: >> With FC4 which includes gnome 2.10, are there any plans to enable >> drop- >> shadows by default with x.org extensions? (not cpu-intensive) > > As far as I'm aware X compositing will be enabled in Fedora when it's > enabled by default in upstream Xorg releases. > > My understanding is that right now there are still problems with it > w.r.t > memory usage and driver compatibility. I have been able to enable XCOMPOSITE, but it's slow as molasses: drawing windows around is very, very sluggish. Surely, something must be wrong on my end. From otaylor at redhat.com Sat Jan 15 23:04:03 2005 From: otaylor at redhat.com (Owen Taylor) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:04:03 -0500 Subject: gnome 2.10, fc4 and drop-shadows In-Reply-To: <1105774511.3503.15.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> References: <20050114223020.GA7168@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <1105774511.3503.15.camel@marte.biciclete.ro> Message-ID: <1105830243.1263.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2005-01-15 at 09:35 +0200, Marius Andreiana wrote: > With FC4 which includes gnome 2.10, are there any plans to enable drop- > shadows by default with x.org extensions? (not cpu-intensive) We're still at a pretty experimental stage with this stuff. I don't know if anything will be there for FC4... but I will promise that when we start taking advantage of the X COMPOSITE extension we'll do a lot more interesting things with it than drop shadows :-) I hope to get some pages on the Fedora wiki within the next few weeks about the graphics projects we're working on it. Regards, Owen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From fedora_2342 at dotancohen.com Sun Jan 16 23:42:16 2005 From: fedora_2342 at dotancohen.com (Dotan Cohen) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:42:16 +0200 Subject: Synaptic Package Manager Output Message-ID: <200501170142.16398.fedora_2342@dotancohen.com> While updating with Synaptic I got the message: While installing package bind-9.2.4-2: /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is empty, not checked. While installing package hal-0.4.5-1.FC3: /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is empty, not checked. /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is empty, not checked. While installing package gimp-2.2.2-0.fc3.2: /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is empty, not checked. [Invalid UTF-8] Could not parse file '/usr/share/applications/alc.desktop': desktop entry contain line 'Comment[fr]=Cr\xe9ateur de liens ed2k d'aMule' which is not UTF-8 /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is empty, not checked. While installing package vim-minimal-6.3.054-0.fc3.1: warning: /etc/vimrc created as /etc/vimrc.rpmnew I am new to linux and see this as an opportunity to learn a little more about my system. i could not find anything on the apt website that explains what these mean (are they errors or warnings or just unimportant info), and nothing in google. Could someone lend me some insight to what all this is? Or better yet, a link that has more in-depth info? Thanks Dotan Cohen From zcerza at redhat.com Mon Jan 17 04:43:17 2005 From: zcerza at redhat.com (Zack Cerza) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:43:17 -0500 Subject: SSID manager in FC3 In-Reply-To: <1104733607.4783.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1104733061.903d90fcFilipSedivy@mail.boisestate.edu> <1104733607.4783.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1105936997.678.58.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 01:26 -0500, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 01:17, Filip Sedivy wrote: > > Hello. I would like to ask someone for a help with wireless SSID management in FC3 with Gnome. Is there such a thing? I need to easily switch between various AP's and I can't find a way how to do that within GUI? Thanks! > > Network Manager > > http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/ > > This should really be asked on the various user mailing lists and not > the devel list, just so you know next time. fedora-desktop list is a development list? Zack From nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro Mon Jan 17 06:36:52 2005 From: nicu_fedora at nicubunu.ro (Nicu Buculei) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:36:52 +0200 Subject: SSID manager in FC3 In-Reply-To: <1105936997.678.58.camel@localhost> References: <1104733061.903d90fcFilipSedivy@mail.boisestate.edu> <1104733607.4783.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1105936997.678.58.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <41EB5D04.3030106@nicubunu.ro> Zack Cerza wrote: > On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 01:26 -0500, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: [...] >>This should really be asked on the various user mailing lists and not >>the devel list, just so you know next time. > > fedora-desktop list is a development list? on http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/communicate/ is described as 'For discussions about desktop issues such as user interfaces, artwork, and usability' on http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list is described as 'Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop' -- nicu From w5set at alltel.net Mon Jan 17 15:23:27 2005 From: w5set at alltel.net (Steve Thacker) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:23:27 -0600 Subject: SSID manager in FC3 In-Reply-To: <41EB5D04.3030106@nicubunu.ro> References: <1104733061.903d90fcFilipSedivy@mail.boisestate.edu> <1104733607.4783.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1105936997.678.58.camel@localhost> <41EB5D04.3030106@nicubunu.ro> Message-ID: <41EBD86F.7090400@alltel.net> Nicu Buculei wrote: >>> This should really be asked on the various user mailing lists and not >>> the devel list, just so you know next time. >> >> >> fedora-desktop list is a development list? > > > on http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/communicate/ is described as > 'For discussions about desktop issues such as user interfaces, artwork, > and usability' > on http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list is > described as 'Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop' > fedora-desktop-list - For discussions about desktop issues such as user interfaces, artwork, and usability This is copied straight from the Fedora site---you will notice the "usability" part???? THE participate/communicate is the main page to get to most of the different "discussion" groups/IRC channels--etc.. Maybe you should suggest updating the main page in participate-communicate to reflect the developement only--not useability part. I will unsubscribe from this page--I as others have mistakenly thought it was for useability/problems from the participate/communicate page---sorry. will use the correct list of http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list for any future mishaps I may have---thanks.........steve From kyrre at solution-forge.net Mon Jan 17 15:47:54 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:47:54 +0100 Subject: Synaptic Package Manager Output In-Reply-To: <200501170142.16398.fedora_2342@dotancohen.com> References: <200501170142.16398.fedora_2342@dotancohen.com> Message-ID: <1105976873.2649.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> man, 17.01.2005 kl. 00.42 skrev Dotan Cohen: > While updating with Synaptic I got the message: > > While installing package bind-9.2.4-2: > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > empty, not checked. > While installing package hal-0.4.5-1.FC3: > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > empty, not checked. > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > empty, not checked. > While installing package gimp-2.2.2-0.fc3.2: > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > empty, not checked. > [Invalid UTF-8] Could not parse file > '/usr/share/applications/alc.desktop': desktop entry contain line > 'Comment[fr]=Cr\xe9ateur de liens ed2k d'aMule' which is not UTF-8 > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > empty, not checked. > While installing package vim-minimal-6.3.054-0.fc3.1: > warning: /etc/vimrc created as /etc/vimrc.rpmnew > > I am new to linux and see this as an opportunity to learn a little more > about my system. i could not find anything on the apt website that > explains what these mean (are they errors or warnings or just > unimportant info), and nothing in google. > > Could someone lend me some insight to what all this is? Or better yet, a > link that has more in-depth info? Thanks > > Dotan Cohen While talking about synaptic - i updated to a newer (fc2) version (0.55.3) recently from a third party repo (Dag Wieers) - and UTF-8 was horribly broken. Norwegian ??? was totaly scrambled in the GUI. I know Dag is on this list, so im just mentioning it so he can get it fixed :) But the new version in general looked great! Kyrre From kyrre at solution-forge.net Mon Jan 17 16:09:21 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:09:21 +0100 Subject: Synaptic Package Manager Output In-Reply-To: <1105976873.2649.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200501170142.16398.fedora_2342@dotancohen.com> <1105976873.2649.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1105978161.2649.48.camel@localhost.localdomain> man, 17.01.2005 kl. 16.47 skrev Kyrre Ness Sjobak: > man, 17.01.2005 kl. 00.42 skrev Dotan Cohen: > > While updating with Synaptic I got the message: > > > > While installing package bind-9.2.4-2: > > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > > empty, not checked. > > While installing package hal-0.4.5-1.FC3: > > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > > empty, not checked. > > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > > empty, not checked. > > While installing package gimp-2.2.2-0.fc3.2: > > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > > empty, not checked. > > [Invalid UTF-8] Could not parse file > > '/usr/share/applications/alc.desktop': desktop entry contain line > > 'Comment[fr]=Cr\xe9ateur de liens ed2k d'aMule' which is not UTF-8 > > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > > empty, not checked. > > While installing package vim-minimal-6.3.054-0.fc3.1: > > warning: /etc/vimrc created as /etc/vimrc.rpmnew > > > > I am new to linux and see this as an opportunity to learn a little more > > about my system. i could not find anything on the apt website that > > explains what these mean (are they errors or warnings or just > > unimportant info), and nothing in google. > > > > Could someone lend me some insight to what all this is? Or better yet, a > > link that has more in-depth info? Thanks > > > > Dotan Cohen > > While talking about synaptic - i updated to a newer (fc2) version > (0.55.3) recently from a third party repo (Dag Wieers) - and UTF-8 was > horribly broken. Norwegian ??? was totaly scrambled in the GUI. > > I know Dag is on this list, so im just mentioning it so he can get it > fixed :) > > But the new version in general looked great! > > Kyrre Err... wrong list. I thougth it was the dev. list *goes out to dig up his adress* From dag at wieers.com Mon Jan 17 16:57:57 2005 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:57:57 +0100 (CET) Subject: Synaptic Package Manager Output In-Reply-To: <1105976873.2649.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <200501170142.16398.fedora_2342@dotancohen.com> <1105976873.2649.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Jan 2005, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > man, 17.01.2005 kl. 00.42 skrev Dotan Cohen: > > While updating with Synaptic I got the message: > > > > While installing package bind-9.2.4-2: > > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > > empty, not checked. > > While installing package hal-0.4.5-1.FC3: > > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > > empty, not checked. > > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > > empty, not checked. > > While installing package gimp-2.2.2-0.fc3.2: > > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > > empty, not checked. > > [Invalid UTF-8] Could not parse file > > '/usr/share/applications/alc.desktop': desktop entry contain line > > 'Comment[fr]=Cr\xe9ateur de liens ed2k d'aMule' which is not UTF-8 > > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > > empty, not checked. > > While installing package vim-minimal-6.3.054-0.fc3.1: > > warning: /etc/vimrc created as /etc/vimrc.rpmnew > > > > I am new to linux and see this as an opportunity to learn a little more > > about my system. i could not find anything on the apt website that > > explains what these mean (are they errors or warnings or just > > unimportant info), and nothing in google. > > > > Could someone lend me some insight to what all this is? Or better yet, a > > link that has more in-depth info? Thanks This is in no way related to the synaptic package itself. First of all you seem to have problems with prelink. (leftover #prelink# files) Secondly, some package also added /usr/share/applications/alc.desktop which has problems on its own. It seems to be something related to aMule. You can find the culprit by doing: rpm -qif /usr/share/applications/alc.desktop And send the packager a mail with your output. The last message is related to the vim package and, just like the other messages, is harmless (but annoying at least). > While talking about synaptic - i updated to a newer (fc2) version > (0.55.3) recently from a third party repo (Dag Wieers) - and UTF-8 was > horribly broken. Norwegian ??? was totaly scrambled in the GUI. Well, I cannot comment on Norwegian being broken :) Synaptic works fine here and you're the first to report this (which does not prove a thing, but may be an indication). You may want to report this upstream, they may have heard of similar problems. > I know Dag is on this list, so im just mentioning it so he can get it > fixed :) Actually I'm not on this list, but a little bird told me about this thread :) I know am on this list, but don't expect me to read all mails from now on. If you want to report something, include me. Or if you see someone reporting something that should be addressed to me too, forward it. Thanks in advance ! > But the new version in general looked great! Do mention that to the synaptic developers when you report the UTF problem ! :) Kind regards, -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [all I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power] From mike at navi.cx Mon Jan 17 18:47:34 2005 From: mike at navi.cx (Mike Hearn) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:47:34 +0000 Subject: Synaptic Package Manager Output References: <200501170142.16398.fedora_2342@dotancohen.com> Message-ID: This is the wrong list for such questions, fedora-list is where you want to go for end-user type questions. But hey, you're new and we all make such mistakes when new :) So here are some answers: > While installing package bind-9.2.4-2: > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > empty, not checked. It's a harmless warning. The reason it appears is most likely that your system crashed or lost power while prelink was running. Prelink makes programs start faster by performing calculations that would otherwise have to be done every time a program starts before it's used, then saving the results inside the program. > [Invalid UTF-8] Could not parse file > '/usr/share/applications/alc.desktop': desktop entry contain line > 'Comment[fr]=Cr\xe9ateur de liens ed2k d'aMule' which is not UTF-8 This is a bug in the aMule package. Some translator is not using UTF-8 which is a way of encoding international (non-Latin) characters. > While installing package vim-minimal-6.3.054-0.fc3.1: > warning: /etc/vimrc created as /etc/vimrc.rpmnew It means that rather than overwrite your VIM configuration file RPM just put the new one in a file beside it so you can merge any changes yourself. You can ignore it. thanks -mike From kyrre at solution-forge.net Mon Jan 17 19:24:40 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:24:40 +0100 Subject: Synaptic Package Manager Output In-Reply-To: References: <200501170142.16398.fedora_2342@dotancohen.com> <1105976873.2649.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1105989880.1536.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> man, 17.01.2005 kl. 17.57 skrev Dag Wieers: > On Mon, 17 Jan 2005, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > > man, 17.01.2005 kl. 00.42 skrev Dotan Cohen: > > > While updating with Synaptic I got the message: > > > > > > While installing package bind-9.2.4-2: > > > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > > > empty, not checked. > > > While installing package hal-0.4.5-1.FC3: > > > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > > > empty, not checked. > > > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > > > empty, not checked. > > > While installing package gimp-2.2.2-0.fc3.2: > > > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > > > empty, not checked. > > > [Invalid UTF-8] Could not parse file > > > '/usr/share/applications/alc.desktop': desktop entry contain line > > > 'Comment[fr]=Cr\xe9ateur de liens ed2k d'aMule' which is not UTF-8 > > > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is > > > empty, not checked. > > > While installing package vim-minimal-6.3.054-0.fc3.1: > > > warning: /etc/vimrc created as /etc/vimrc.rpmnew > > > > > > I am new to linux and see this as an opportunity to learn a little more > > > about my system. i could not find anything on the apt website that > > > explains what these mean (are they errors or warnings or just > > > unimportant info), and nothing in google. > > > > > > Could someone lend me some insight to what all this is? Or better yet, a > > > link that has more in-depth info? Thanks > > This is in no way related to the synaptic package itself. > > First of all you seem to have problems with prelink. (leftover #prelink# > files) > > Secondly, some package also added /usr/share/applications/alc.desktop > which has problems on its own. It seems to be something related to aMule. > You can find the culprit by doing: > > rpm -qif /usr/share/applications/alc.desktop > > And send the packager a mail with your output. > > The last message is related to the vim package and, just like the other > messages, is harmless (but annoying at least). > > > > While talking about synaptic - i updated to a newer (fc2) version > > (0.55.3) recently from a third party repo (Dag Wieers) - and UTF-8 was > > horribly broken. Norwegian ??? was totaly scrambled in the GUI. > > Well, I cannot comment on Norwegian being broken :) Synaptic works fine > here and you're the first to report this (which does not prove a thing, > but may be an indication). You may want to report this upstream, they may > have heard of similar problems. > > > > I know Dag is on this list, so im just mentioning it so he can get it > > fixed :) > > Actually I'm not on this list, but a little bird told me about this thread > :) I know am on this list, but don't expect me to read all mails from now > on. If you want to report something, include me. Or if you see someone > reporting something that should be addressed to me too, forward it. > > Thanks in advance ! > Yeah, i kindof remembered when i saw i was opening "devel" mailing list vfolder. Hmm... didn't i just send off a mail there... Hmmm... No? OOps... wrong list! *go and tell Dag...* > > > But the new version in general looked great! > > Do mention that to the synaptic developers when you report the UTF problem ! :) > Yeah, that way they migth not eat me alive... They might be so kind to rip my skin of first... *kidding* > Kind regards, > -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- > [all I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power] > > ______________________________________________________________________ > -- > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list From dag at wieers.com Mon Jan 17 22:28:21 2005 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:28:21 +0100 (CET) Subject: Synaptic Package Manager Output In-Reply-To: <200501180002.00861.dotan_0105@dotancohen.com> References: <20050117170011.0AD2D73A3F@hormel.redhat.com> <200501180002.00861.dotan_0105@dotancohen.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Thank you Dag. I removed amule (never got it to connect anyway), installed php > and mysql, and got this: > > While installing package apr-0.9.4-23: > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is empty, > not checked. > While installing package mysql-3.23.58-14: > /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7 is empty, > not checked. > > What exactly is prelink, and how can I fix it? Thank you so much. Please remove that file, it's a left-over file from an automated process. rm -f '/usr/lib/libMagick.so.6.0.7.#prelink#.OLoyQ7' And 'man prelink' explains what prelinking is all about. Kind regards, -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [all I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power] From kaspars at os.lv Wed Jan 19 07:24:16 2005 From: kaspars at os.lv (Kaspars) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:24:16 +0200 Subject: FC3 latest kernel upgrade broke sound... Message-ID: <41EE0B20.6000205@os.lv> Hi, I wanted to ask, if there is aware about that latest kernel upgrade ir broken sound (i don`t have it anymore) on some pc... I have laptop Topshiba Satellite with FC3 with all updates and kernel 2.6.10-1.741_FC3. I found thet there is little talking about it: http://fcp.homelinux.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&order=DESC&topic_id=6724&forum=10 but don`t have solutions... I can hear sound if i reboot with older kernel and then all is ok. Thanks. Casper From stransky at redhat.com Wed Jan 19 08:47:11 2005 From: stransky at redhat.com (Martin Stransky) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:47:11 +0100 Subject: FC3 latest kernel upgrade broke sound... In-Reply-To: <41EE0B20.6000205@os.lv> References: <41EE0B20.6000205@os.lv> Message-ID: <41EE1E8F.9080208@redhat.com> Look to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=144742 Probably you have to mute some chanels in alsamixer. Ma. > > Hi, > > I wanted to ask, if there is aware about that latest kernel upgrade ir > broken sound (i don`t have it anymore) on some pc... > I have laptop Topshiba Satellite with FC3 with all updates and kernel > 2.6.10-1.741_FC3. I found thet there is little talking about it: > http://fcp.homelinux.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&order=DESC&topic_id=6724&forum=10 > > but don`t have solutions... > I can hear sound if i reboot with older kernel and then all is ok. > > Thanks. > > Casper > From kaspars at os.lv Wed Jan 19 12:04:53 2005 From: kaspars at os.lv (Kaspars) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:04:53 +0200 Subject: FC3 latest kernel upgrade broke sound... In-Reply-To: <41EE1E8F.9080208@redhat.com> References: <41EE0B20.6000205@os.lv> <41EE1E8F.9080208@redhat.com> Message-ID: <41EE4CE5.9060906@os.lv> Yea, thanks :) in command line start alsamixer and on Headphone push M (Mute) to get it work :) Martin Stransky wrote: > Look to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=144742 > Probably you have to mute some chanels in alsamixer. > Ma. > >> >> Hi, >> >> I wanted to ask, if there is aware about that latest kernel upgrade >> ir broken sound (i don`t have it anymore) on some pc... >> I have laptop Topshiba Satellite with FC3 with all updates and kernel >> 2.6.10-1.741_FC3. I found thet there is little talking about it: >> http://fcp.homelinux.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&order=DESC&topic_id=6724&forum=10 >> >> but don`t have solutions... >> I can hear sound if i reboot with older kernel and then all is ok. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Casper >> > From notting at redhat.com Thu Jan 20 05:10:19 2005 From: notting at redhat.com (Bill Nottingham) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:10:19 -0500 Subject: the 'failsafe' session Message-ID: <20050120051019.GA6742@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> So, this came up as a sidepoint in another bug. Say, you're a user, your mouse isn't working. You try and log into a failsafe session to fix it. You're now screwed because: a) if you start an app, it may not have focus b) there's no keysequence to change focus, unless you're an X guru Is this a situation we really care about? What do we expect people to use the failsafe session for, in practice? Bill From czar at czarc.net Sun Jan 23 14:59:52 2005 From: czar at czarc.net (Gene C.) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:59:52 -0500 Subject: the 'failsafe' session In-Reply-To: <20050120051019.GA6742@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <20050120051019.GA6742@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <200501230959.52741.czar@czarc.net> On Thursday 20 January 2005 00:10, Bill Nottingham wrote: > So, this came up as a sidepoint in another bug. > > Say, you're a user, your mouse isn't working. You try and > log into a failsafe session to fix it. > > You're now screwed because: > > a) if you start an app, it may not have focus > b) there's no keysequence to change focus, unless you're an X guru > > Is this a situation we really care about? What do we expect > people to use the failsafe session for, in practice? My opinion ... we really do not need failsafe as long as there are VTs. I have never used the failsafe graphical login when I have a problem ... I login on a VT CLI. Now if the only tools a user knew how to use were gui tools, then you would need failsafe so we should probably keep it. However, to fix the mouse problem you used as an example, the user will probably need to login on a VT CLI (or the ultimate CLI -- single user mode). -- Gene From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Sun Jan 23 19:49:21 2005 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gain Paolo Mureddu) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:49:21 -0600 Subject: the 'failsafe' session In-Reply-To: <200501230959.52741.czar@czarc.net> References: <20050120051019.GA6742@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <"200501230959.5 2741.czar"@czarc.net> Message-ID: <41F3FFC1.5020106@prodigy.net.mx> Gene C. wrote: >On Thursday 20 January 2005 00:10, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > >>So, this came up as a sidepoint in another bug. >> >>Say, you're a user, your mouse isn't working. You try and >>log into a failsafe session to fix it. >> >>You're now screwed because: >> >>a) if you start an app, it may not have focus >>b) there's no keysequence to change focus, unless you're an X guru >> >>Is this a situation we really care about? What do we expect >>people to use the failsafe session for, in practice >> Only situation when I run a failsafe session is when I want to run a way too heavy application for the amount of RAM on the system (Doom3 for instance), so I leave completely out the overhead GNOME or KDE or even XFCE could have in the system... Other applications besides games can benefit from the extra memory, like visualization software or simulations. Other instance when you may be forced to use such graphical shell is if you for some obscure reason your session would not work, and you still can use graphical tools to trouble shoot why isn't your regular session working... Just a thought... though you can always rely on the old trusty VT TTYs. From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sun Jan 23 20:22:50 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:22:50 +0100 Subject: the 'failsafe' session In-Reply-To: <41F3FFC1.5020106@prodigy.net.mx> References: <20050120051019.GA6742@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> <"200501230959.5 2741.czar"@czarc.net> <41F3FFC1.5020106@prodigy.net.mx> Message-ID: <1106511770.7794.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> or simply to troubleshoot your session by starting it program by program and watching the output on the xterm s?n, 23.01.2005 kl. 20.49 skrev Gain Paolo Mureddu: > Gene C. wrote: > > >On Thursday 20 January 2005 00:10, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > > > >>So, this came up as a sidepoint in another bug. > >> > >>Say, you're a user, your mouse isn't working. You try and > >>log into a failsafe session to fix it. > >> > >>You're now screwed because: > >> > >>a) if you start an app, it may not have focus > >>b) there's no keysequence to change focus, unless you're an X guru > >> > >>Is this a situation we really care about? What do we expect > >>people to use the failsafe session for, in practice > >> > Only situation when I run a failsafe session is when I want to run a way > too heavy application for the amount of RAM on the system (Doom3 for > instance), so I leave completely out the overhead GNOME or KDE or even > XFCE could have in the system... Other applications besides games can > benefit from the extra memory, like visualization software or > simulations. Other instance when you may be forced to use such graphical > shell is if you for some obscure reason your session would not work, and > you still can use graphical tools to trouble shoot why isn't your > regular session working... Just a thought... though you can always rely > on the old trusty VT TTYs. From hp at redhat.com Mon Jan 24 05:53:51 2005 From: hp at redhat.com (Havoc Pennington) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 00:53:51 -0500 Subject: the 'failsafe' session In-Reply-To: <20050120051019.GA6742@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> References: <20050120051019.GA6742@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> Message-ID: <1106546031.6065.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 00:10 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > So, this came up as a sidepoint in another bug. > > Say, you're a user, your mouse isn't working. You try and > log into a failsafe session to fix it. > > You're now screwed because: > > a) if you start an app, it may not have focus > b) there's no keysequence to change focus, unless you're an X guru > > Is this a situation we really care about? What do we expect > people to use the failsafe session for, in practice? > For it to be useful for desktop users, it would probably have to start a regular desktop but just ignore your configuration (especially your session file). I guess it might be good for bugs like the classic "vertical panel crashes on login" or losing the panel from your session. The effort to implement a useful failsafe mode might be better spent making the session manager detect hosed states (missing panel, respawns, crashes) and recover cleanly/automatically, though. Havoc From florian at idelberger.de Tue Jan 25 20:08:34 2005 From: florian at idelberger.de (Florian Idelberger) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:08:34 +0100 Subject: firewire hotplugging Message-ID: <1106683714.5427.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi everybody, I'm running fc3 quite successful and am very happy with it. However, shortly after the fresh install firewire hotplugging started working, and I can't even mount my disks by hand because there is no /dev/sda created. So I finally came around to look after it but without success so far, and this is what I get in my system log: > Jan 25 21:03:06 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-01:1023 > Jan 25 21:03:07 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-00:1023 Any help much appreciated, Florian From tosterman at gmail.com Tue Jan 25 20:38:26 2005 From: tosterman at gmail.com (Travis Osterman) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:38:26 -0500 Subject: How do I add a new window manager? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12c639a205012512387ef94fde@mail.gmail.com> > I would like to play with WMI ( wmi.modprobe.de ). > I have gotten it to build on amd64 and can launch it > from the failsafe prompt. What do I have to do to > make it an available session type? If you are using gdm # nano /usr/share/xsessions/wmi.desktop [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Name=Evil Window Manager Exec=evilwm TryExec=evilwm # no icon yet, only the top three are currently used Icon= Type=Application Change accorindingly as mine is set for evilwm obviously. -- Travis From kyrre at solution-forge.net Tue Jan 25 21:21:15 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:21:15 +0100 Subject: firewire hotplugging In-Reply-To: <1106683714.5427.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1106683714.5427.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1106688074.2657.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> tir, 25.01.2005 kl. 21.08 skrev Florian Idelberger: > Hi everybody, I'm running fc3 quite successful and am very happy with > it. However, shortly after the fresh install firewire hotplugging > started working, and I can't even mount my disks by hand because there > is no /dev/sda created. So I finally came around to look after it but > without success so far, and this is what I get in my system log: > > > Jan 25 21:03:06 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-01:1023 > > Jan 25 21:03:07 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-00:1023 > > Any help much appreciated, Florian Does it work for the original on-cd kernel, but dosn't with one from fedora-updates? Which kernel is the latest which has this working? From florian at idelberger.de Wed Jan 26 09:32:27 2005 From: florian at idelberger.de (Florian Idelberger) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:32:27 +0100 Subject: firewire hotplugging In-Reply-To: <1106688074.2657.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1106683714.5427.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1106688074.2657.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1106731948.5786.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 22:21 +0100, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > tir, 25.01.2005 kl. 21.08 skrev Florian Idelberger: > > Hi everybody, I'm running fc3 quite successful and am very happy with > > it. However, shortly after the fresh install firewire hotplugging > > started working, and I can't even mount my disks by hand because there > > is no /dev/sda created. So I finally came around to look after it but > > without success so far, and this is what I get in my system log: > > > > > Jan 25 21:03:06 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-01:1023 > > > Jan 25 21:03:07 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-00:1023 > > > > Any help much appreciated, Florian > > Does it work for the original on-cd kernel, but dosn't with one from > fedora-updates? Which kernel is the latest which has this working? > At the beginning it worked, with the on-cd kernel, now it doesn't matter if I boot the original one or the latest (2.6.10). Normally I'm running 2.6.10 (build 447 i think) From kyrre at solution-forge.net Wed Jan 26 13:59:08 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:59:08 +0100 Subject: [Fwd: Re: firewire hotplugging] Message-ID: <1106747948.3330.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Kyrre Ness Sjobak Subject: Re: firewire hotplugging Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:58:30 +0100 Size: 1828 URL: From ziga.mahkovec at klika.si Wed Jan 26 19:13:36 2005 From: ziga.mahkovec at klika.si (Ziga Mahkovec) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:13:36 +0100 Subject: firewire hotplugging In-Reply-To: <1106683714.5427.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1106683714.5427.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1106766816.10749.7.camel@serenity.klika.si> On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 21:08 +0100, Florian Idelberger wrote: > Hi everybody, I'm running fc3 quite successful and am very happy with > it. However, shortly after the fresh install firewire hotplugging > started working, and I can't even mount my disks by hand because there > is no /dev/sda created. So I finally came around to look after it but > without success so far, and this is what I get in my system log: > > > Jan 25 21:03:06 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-01:1023 > > Jan 25 21:03:07 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-00:1023 These messages might be harmless (at least, I'm also seeing them and firewire works mostly fine here). Check if the sbp2 module is loaded: $ lsmod | grep sbp2 If not, load it manually (keep an eye on /var/log/messages): $ sudo modprobe sbp2 The recent kernels are very picky about module options, so if you have any set in /etc/modprobe.conf ("serialize_io=1" is very common), make sure they're spelled out correctly and without any trailing spaces. Also, you might try experimenting with when the disk is turned on (prior to or after the system is brought up). Hope that helps, -- Ziga From florian at idelberger.de Wed Jan 26 19:23:38 2005 From: florian at idelberger.de (Florian Idelberger) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:23:38 +0100 Subject: firewire hotplugging In-Reply-To: <1106766816.10749.7.camel@serenity.klika.si> References: <1106683714.5427.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1106766816.10749.7.camel@serenity.klika.si> Message-ID: <41F7EE3A.3040305@idelberger.de> Ziga Mahkovec wrote: >On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 21:08 +0100, Florian Idelberger wrote: > > >>Hi everybody, I'm running fc3 quite successful and am very happy with >>it. However, shortly after the fresh install firewire hotplugging >>started working, and I can't even mount my disks by hand because there >>is no /dev/sda created. So I finally came around to look after it but >>without success so far, and this is what I get in my system log: >> >> >> >>>Jan 25 21:03:06 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-01:1023 >>>Jan 25 21:03:07 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-00:1023 >>> >>> > >These messages might be harmless (at least, I'm also seeing them and >firewire works mostly fine here). > >Check if the sbp2 module is loaded: >$ lsmod | grep sbp2 > >If not, load it manually (keep an eye on /var/log/messages): >$ sudo modprobe sbp2 > >The recent kernels are very picky about module options, so if you have >any set in /etc/modprobe.conf ("serialize_io=1" is very common), make >sure they're spelled out correctly and without any trailing spaces. > >Also, you might try experimenting with when the disk is turned on (prior >to or after the system is brought up). > >Hope that helps, > > 1) all modules are loaded, and as I said, it works --sometimes-- (rare), although I have to mount manually 2) no I have not specified any options, afaik there shouldn't be any necessary 3) at sometime this evening I'll downgrade udev, as Kyrre proposed but nonetheless, thx for your post From ziga.mahkovec at klika.si Wed Jan 26 19:43:00 2005 From: ziga.mahkovec at klika.si (Ziga Mahkovec) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:43:00 +0100 Subject: firewire hotplugging In-Reply-To: <41F7EE3A.3040305@idelberger.de> References: <1106683714.5427.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1106766816.10749.7.camel@serenity.klika.si> <41F7EE3A.3040305@idelberger.de> Message-ID: <1106768581.10749.22.camel@serenity.klika.si> On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 20:23 +0100, Florian Idelberger wrote: > >Check if the sbp2 module is loaded: > >$ lsmod | grep sbp2 > > > 1) all modules are loaded, and as I said, it works --sometimes-- (rare), > although I have to mount manually I see, it wasn't clear from your email that it does work on occasion. Also, "no /dev/sda created" in my case usually meant sbp2 didn't get loaded. Having to mount manually on the other hand meant fstab-sync wasn't picking up the partitions. Usually I worked around this with: $ rmdir /media/firewire* $ fstab-sync --clean $ sudo rmmod sbp2; sudo modprobe sbp2 But I guess it could be udev as well. -- Ziga From kristabs at os.lv Wed Jan 26 22:08:37 2005 From: kristabs at os.lv (kristabs at os.lv) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:08:37 GMT Subject: NVIDIA graphic drivers Message-ID: <200501262208.j0QM8b90001880@smtp.delfi.lv> Hello! I just about week ago installed my first GNU/Linux operating system and it was Feodora Core 3. I am glad i chose this one, everything is working properly and i have installed every application i needed, but only one thing left - Graphic drivers. *My graphic card - NVIDIA GeeForce MX 4000 64 MB I tried NVIDIA drivers i found on www.nvidia.com and it didn`t work out. I downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1.run and quited X desktop and run VIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1.run with sh command from bash with parameter kernel name and it started to install but i received error and when i booted X desktop and tried to run application that need graphical accelerate i recieved an error - Couldn't initialize video: Couldn't find matching GLX visual. I can`t find out a different way to install a drivers for my graphic card. Sorry if this is lame, but i just started to use GNU/Linux and i am newb still at this moment in Linux. --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ http://www.microlink.com/ From sean.bruno at dsl-only.net Wed Jan 26 23:46:44 2005 From: sean.bruno at dsl-only.net (Sean Bruno) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:46:44 -0800 Subject: NVIDIA graphic drivers In-Reply-To: <200501262208.j0QM8b90001880@smtp.delfi.lv> References: <200501262208.j0QM8b90001880@smtp.delfi.lv> Message-ID: <1106783204.3437.16.camel@oscar.metro1.com> Did u try to install the package as "root" or as yourself? Also, did you modify your xorg.conf as in the installation instructions from Nvidia? Sean From mcenaney at speakeasy.net Thu Jan 27 00:52:31 2005 From: mcenaney at speakeasy.net (Brendan McEnaney) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:52:31 -0500 Subject: NVIDIA graphic drivers In-Reply-To: <200501262208.j0QM8b90001880@smtp.delfi.lv> References: <200501262208.j0QM8b90001880@smtp.delfi.lv> Message-ID: <41F83B4F.1030804@speakeasy.net> kristabs at os.lv wrote: > Hello! I just about week ago installed my first GNU/Linux operating system and > it was Feodora Core 3. I am glad i chose this one, everything is working > properly and i have installed every application i needed, but only one thing > left - Graphic drivers. > *My graphic card - NVIDIA GeeForce MX 4000 64 MB I strongly recommend you head over to: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=14 And read the following threads: "Fedora Core 3 and nVidia drivers - Solution" and also: "1.0-6629 x86/x86-64 and Linux 2.6.10" if you are using the 2.6.10 kernel. Both threads are marked 'Sticky' and as such are found right at the top of the page. -- B r e n d a n M c E n a n e y http://www.speakeasy.net/~mcenaney B o s t o n M a s s a c h u s e t t s From peter.backlund at home.se Thu Jan 27 11:39:05 2005 From: peter.backlund at home.se (Peter Backlund) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:39:05 +0100 Subject: Qt Bluecurve improvments Message-ID: <1106825945.19595.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello. I thought this list might be interested in my work to make the Qt Bluecurve engine behave more like Gtk2. An overview page with screenshots: http://petrix.se/fedora/bluecurve The associated #bz: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/beta/show_bug.cgi?id=145791 /Peter From peter.backlund at home.se Thu Jan 27 11:49:33 2005 From: peter.backlund at home.se (Peter Backlund) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:49:33 +0100 Subject: Qt Bluecurve improvments In-Reply-To: <1106825945.19595.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1106825945.19595.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1106826573.19595.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> tor 2005-01-27 klockan 12:39 +0100 skrev Peter Backlund: > Hello. > > I thought this list might be interested in my work to make the Qt > Bluecurve engine behave more like Gtk2. > > An overview page with screenshots: > > http://petrix.se/fedora/bluecurve > > The associated #bz: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/beta/show_bug.cgi?id=128102 Oops, wrong number :-). Here's the right one. /Peter From peter.backlund at home.se Thu Jan 27 11:55:38 2005 From: peter.backlund at home.se (Peter Backlund) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:55:38 +0100 Subject: Qt Bluecurve improvments (finally the correct bz number) In-Reply-To: <1106826573.19595.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1106825945.19595.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1106826573.19595.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1106826938.19595.53.camel@localhost.localdomain> This is the one: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/beta/show_bug.cgi?id=141125 /Peter From kristabs at os.lv Thu Jan 27 11:49:32 2005 From: kristabs at os.lv (kristabs at os.lv) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:49:32 GMT Subject: NVIDIA graphic drivers problem solved Message-ID: <200501271149.j0RBnX90005300@smtp.delfi.lv> Thanks to those who showed me the way to solve this problem. If maybe anybody else has and want to solve this problem i will post exect way to do that: Download latest NVIDIA graphic drivers at www.nvidia.com and patches at http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=42964 # sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-6629-pkg0.run --extract-only # cd NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-6629-pkg0 # patch -p0 < /path/to/NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-6629-1165235.diff.txt # patch -p0 < /path/to/NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-6629-1171869.diff.txt # ./nvidia-installer # nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ---- here i had to replace driver name Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "nv" (here you should replace with- Driver "nvidia") ---- after the reboot where the X should start to boot i recieved the error and then i had to set inittab to run level 3 and reboot, then # modprobe nvidia # cp -a /dev/nvidia* /etc/udev/devices/ after this just set run level back to 5 and boot without problems and all works properly --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ http://www.microlink.com/ From peter.backlund at home.se Thu Jan 27 11:51:31 2005 From: peter.backlund at home.se (Peter Backlund) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:51:31 +0100 Subject: Qt Bluecurve improvments (finally the correct bz) In-Reply-To: <1106826573.19595.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1106825945.19595.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1106826573.19595.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1106826691.19595.51.camel@localhost.localdomain> tor 2005-01-27 klockan 12:49 +0100 skrev Peter Backlund: > tor 2005-01-27 klockan 12:39 +0100 skrev Peter Backlund: > > Hello. > > > > I thought this list might be interested in my work to make the Qt > > Bluecurve engine behave more like Gtk2. > > > > An overview page with screenshots: > > > > http://petrix.se/fedora/bluecurve > > > > The associated #bz: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/beta/show_bug.cgi?id=128102 > > Oops, wrong number :-). Here's the right one. > > /Peter Ah, for the love of God. THIS is the one: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/beta/show_bug.cgi?id=141125 /Peter From peter.backlund at home.se Thu Jan 27 12:04:02 2005 From: peter.backlund at home.se (Peter Backlund) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:04:02 +0100 Subject: NVIDIA graphic drivers In-Reply-To: <200501262208.j0QM8b90001880@smtp.delfi.lv> References: <200501262208.j0QM8b90001880@smtp.delfi.lv> Message-ID: <1106827442.19595.62.camel@localhost.localdomain> ons 2005-01-26 klockan 22:08 +0000 skrev kristabs at os.lv: > Hello! I just about week ago installed my first GNU/Linux operating system and > it was Feodora Core 3. I am glad i chose this one, everything is working > properly and i have installed every application i needed, but only one thing > left - Graphic drivers. > *My graphic card - NVIDIA GeeForce MX 4000 64 MB > I tried NVIDIA drivers i found on www.nvidia.com and it didn`t work out. I > downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1.run and quited X desktop and run > VIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6629-pkg1.run with sh command from bash with parameter > kernel name and it started to install but i received error and when i booted X > desktop and tried to run application that need graphical accelerate i recieved > an error - Couldn't initialize video: Couldn't find matching GLX visual. I > can`t find out a different way to install a drivers for my graphic card. Sorry > if this is lame, but i just started to use GNU/Linux and i am newb still at this > moment in > Linux. I probably should advertise in this thread: rpm.livna.org packages the Nvidia drivers for Fedora, in a very user-friendly format. Here's how you install it: 1. Make sure you have the Livna repositories configured in yum. The most recent driver version resides in testing, the older one in stable. 2. Run "yum install nvidia-glx". 3. Restart X. It takes care of all your configuration and little udev/modprobe hacks and whatnot. No init 3, running scripts, compiling stuff. When there's a new kernel released, you run "yum install kernel-module-nvidia-$(uname - r)" to install the corresponding kernel module. It also comes with a little init script that disables the nvidia driver if you happen to boot a kernel with no nvidia module, so that X will run just fine with the x.org driver. /Peter From breun at xs4all.nl Thu Jan 27 12:25:53 2005 From: breun at xs4all.nl (Nils Breunese) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:25:53 +0100 Subject: NVIDIA graphic drivers problem solved In-Reply-To: <200501271149.j0RBnX90005300@smtp.delfi.lv> References: <200501271149.j0RBnX90005300@smtp.delfi.lv> Message-ID: <1106828753.5615.1.camel@breuniac> kristabs at os.lv wrote: > Thanks to those who showed me the way to solve this problem. If maybe anybody > else has and want to solve this problem i will post exect way to do that: > Download latest NVIDIA graphic drivers at www.nvidia.com and patches at > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=42964 > > # sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-6629-pkg0.run --extract-only > # cd NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-6629-pkg0 > # patch -p0 < /path/to/NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-6629-1165235.diff.txt > # patch -p0 < /path/to/NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-6629-1171869.diff.txt > # ./nvidia-installer > # nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf > ---- > here i had to replace driver name > Section "Device" > Identifier "Videocard0" > Driver "nv" (here you should replace with- Driver "nvidia") > ---- > after the reboot where the X should start to boot i recieved the error and then > i had to set inittab to run level 3 and reboot, then > # modprobe nvidia > # cp -a /dev/nvidia* /etc/udev/devices/ > after this just set run level back to 5 and boot without problems and all works > properly Reading that thread all the way through I see they've already got multiple patches to those patches. All this tells me is that I think I'll just wait some more before installing the nvidia binary drivers again. At least till there's a new release from nvidia. Nils Breunese. From fsmith at web-links.net Thu Jan 27 13:04:53 2005 From: fsmith at web-links.net (Frank smith) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:04:53 +0000 Subject: NVIDIA graphic drivers problem solved In-Reply-To: <200501271149.j0RBnX90005300@smtp.delfi.lv> References: <200501271149.j0RBnX90005300@smtp.delfi.lv> Message-ID: <1106831093.5115.1.camel@bear.rokpa> HI Many thanks for this. Just what we needed Bob On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 11:49 +0000, kristabs at os.lv wrote: > # sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-6629-pkg0.run --extract-only > # cd NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-6629-pkg0 > # patch -p0 < /path/to/NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-6629-1165235.diff.txt > # patch -p0 < /path/to/NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-6629-1171869.diff.txt > # ./nvidia-installer > # nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf > ---- > here i had to replace driver name > Section "Device" > Identifier "Videocard0" > Driver "nv" (here you should replace with- Driver > "nvidia") > ---- > after the reboot where the X should start to boot i recieved the error > and then > i had to set inittab to run level 3 and reboot, then > # modprobe nvidia > # cp -a /dev/nvidia* /etc/udev/devices/ > after this just set run level back to 5 and boot without problems and > all works > properly From florian at idelberger.de Thu Jan 27 13:55:57 2005 From: florian at idelberger.de (Florian Idelberger) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:55:57 +0100 Subject: firewire hotplugging In-Reply-To: <1106731948.5786.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1106683714.5427.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1106688074.2657.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1106731948.5786.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1106834157.5891.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 10:32 +0100, Florian Idelberger wrote: > On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 22:21 +0100, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > tir, 25.01.2005 kl. 21.08 skrev Florian Idelberger: > > > Hi everybody, I'm running fc3 quite successful and am very happy with > > > it. However, shortly after the fresh install firewire hotplugging > > > started working, and I can't even mount my disks by hand because there > > > is no /dev/sda created. So I finally came around to look after it but > > > without success so far, and this is what I get in my system log: > > > > > > > Jan 25 21:03:06 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-01:1023 > > > > Jan 25 21:03:07 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-00:1023 > > > > > > Any help much appreciated, Florian > > > > Does it work for the original on-cd kernel, but dosn't with one from > > fedora-updates? Which kernel is the latest which has this working? > > > > At the beginning it worked, with the on-cd kernel, now it doesn't matter > if I boot the original one or the latest (2.6.10). Normally I'm running > 2.6.10 (build 447 i think) > O.k., this is so strange. fstab-sync gives me a lovely segfault if I do "fstab-sync --clean", and nothing but. reloading of sbp2 didn't help either. From florian at idelberger.de Thu Jan 27 16:42:13 2005 From: florian at idelberger.de (Florian Idelberger) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:42:13 +0100 Subject: firewire hotplugging In-Reply-To: <1106834157.5891.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1106683714.5427.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1106688074.2657.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1106731948.5786.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1106834157.5891.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1106844133.4645.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 14:55 +0100, Florian Idelberger wrote: > On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 10:32 +0100, Florian Idelberger wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 22:21 +0100, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > > tir, 25.01.2005 kl. 21.08 skrev Florian Idelberger: > > > > Hi everybody, I'm running fc3 quite successful and am very happy with > > > > it. However, shortly after the fresh install firewire hotplugging > > > > started working, and I can't even mount my disks by hand because there > > > > is no /dev/sda created. So I finally came around to look after it but > > > > without success so far, and this is what I get in my system log: > > > > > > > > > Jan 25 21:03:06 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-01:1023 > > > > > Jan 25 21:03:07 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-00:1023 > > > > > > > > Any help much appreciated, Florian > > > > > > Does it work for the original on-cd kernel, but dosn't with one from > > > fedora-updates? Which kernel is the latest which has this working? > > > > > > > At the beginning it worked, with the on-cd kernel, now it doesn't matter > > if I boot the original one or the latest (2.6.10). Normally I'm running > > 2.6.10 (build 447 i think) > > > O.k., this is so strange. > fstab-sync gives me a lovely segfault if I do "fstab-sync --clean", and > nothing but. > reloading of sbp2 didn't help either. > Downgrading udev from 039-10 to 039-8, didn't help. But after removing the whole firewire controller on runtime, and reinserting it (with nothing mounted, because there was nothing recognized, I got some interesting new kernel output which I don't like if it means what I think. Plus, this just can't be, because sometimes it works, and it works especially well with other distros, like debian or knoppix. So here's the output: Jan 27 17:36:55 localhost kernel: ohci1394: fw-host0: Set PHY Reg timeout [0xffffffff/0x00004000/100] [root at localhost dev]# tail /var/log/messages Jan 27 17:37:19 localhost wait_for_sysfs[5060]: either wait_for_sysfs (udev 039) needs an update to handle the device '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:11.1/0000:06:00.0/fw- host0/01ac9120000002e7' properly (unknown bus) or the sysfs-support of your device's driver needs to be fixed, please report to Jan 27 17:37:19 localhost ieee1394.agent[5076]: ... no drivers for IEEE1394 product 0x/0x/0x Jan 27 17:37:19 localhost ieee1394.agent[5091]: ... no drivers for IEEE1394 product 0x/0x/0x Jan 27 17:37:19 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-02:1023 Jan 27 17:37:19 localhost wait_for_sysfs[5109]: error: unknown bus, please report to 'ieee1394' Jan 27 17:37:19 localhost wait_for_sysfs[5109]: either wait_for_sysfs (udev 039) needs an update to handle the device '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:11.1/0000:06:00.0/fw- host0/400401012800c037' properly (unknown bus) or the sysfs-support of your device's driver needs to be fixed, please report to Jan 27 17:37:19 localhost ieee1394.agent[5114]: ... no drivers for IEEE1394 product 0x/0x/0x Jan 27 17:37:21 localhost wait_for_sysfs[5133]: error: unknown bus, please report to 'ieee1394' Jan 27 17:37:21 localhost wait_for_sysfs[5133]: either wait_for_sysfs (udev 039) needs an update to handle the device '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:11.1/0000:06:00.0/fw- host0/400401012800c037/400401012800c037-0' properly (unknown bus) or the sysfs-support of your device's driver needs to be fixed, please report to Jan 27 17:37:21 localhost ieee1394.agent[5137]: ... no drivers for IEEE1394 product 0x/0x/0x From kyrre at solution-forge.net Thu Jan 27 18:25:37 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:25:37 +0100 Subject: Qt Bluecurve improvments In-Reply-To: <1106825945.19595.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1106825945.19595.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1106850337.2656.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> that was pretty nice! Now i am a gnome guy, so what does the KDE users say? tor, 27.01.2005 kl. 12.39 skrev Peter Backlund: > Hello. > > I thought this list might be interested in my work to make the Qt > Bluecurve engine behave more like Gtk2. > > An overview page with screenshots: > > http://petrix.se/fedora/bluecurve > > The associated #bz: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/beta/show_bug.cgi?id=145791 > > /Peter From kyrre at solution-forge.net Thu Jan 27 18:26:46 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:26:46 +0100 Subject: firewire hotplugging In-Reply-To: <1106834157.5891.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1106683714.5427.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1106688074.2657.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1106731948.5786.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1106834157.5891.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1106850405.2656.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> tor, 27.01.2005 kl. 14.55 skrev Florian Idelberger: > On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 10:32 +0100, Florian Idelberger wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 22:21 +0100, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > > tir, 25.01.2005 kl. 21.08 skrev Florian Idelberger: > > > > Hi everybody, I'm running fc3 quite successful and am very happy with > > > > it. However, shortly after the fresh install firewire hotplugging > > > > started working, and I can't even mount my disks by hand because there > > > > is no /dev/sda created. So I finally came around to look after it but > > > > without success so far, and this is what I get in my system log: > > > > > > > > > Jan 25 21:03:06 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-01:1023 > > > > > Jan 25 21:03:07 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-00:1023 > > > > > > > > Any help much appreciated, Florian > > > > > > Does it work for the original on-cd kernel, but dosn't with one from > > > fedora-updates? Which kernel is the latest which has this working? > > > > > > > At the beginning it worked, with the on-cd kernel, now it doesn't matter > > if I boot the original one or the latest (2.6.10). Normally I'm running > > 2.6.10 (build 447 i think) > > > O.k., this is so strange. > fstab-sync gives me a lovely segfault if I do "fstab-sync --clean", and > nothing but. > reloading of sbp2 didn't help either. Somehow i have a thought that this belongs in bugzilla! From tony at tgds.net Fri Jan 28 09:42:13 2005 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:42:13 +0100 Subject: Is printing a desktop issue? Message-ID: <1106905333.3616.119.camel@hush> Printing in FC3 is in considerable worse state than in FC1. Eggcups is well named because it is as fragile as eggs... How does one cancel a print job. Right click cancel = application crash. A new "feature" of my Epson stylus photo 1290 is not printing to the end of job. Printer sharing is on but the printer remains invisible to my Mac and W XP Pro computers. Where should I take these issues? Cheers Tony Grant From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Fri Jan 28 10:03:59 2005 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gain Paolo Mureddu) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 04:03:59 -0600 Subject: Is printing a desktop issue? In-Reply-To: <1106905333.3616.119.camel@hush> References: <1106905333.3616.119.camel@hush> Message-ID: <41FA0E0F.8030208@prodigy.net.mx> tony wrote: >Printing in FC3 is in considerable worse state than in FC1. > >Eggcups is well named because it is as fragile as eggs... How does one >cancel a print job. Right click cancel = application crash. > >A new "feature" of my Epson stylus photo 1290 is not printing to the end >of job. > >Printer sharing is on but the printer remains invisible to my Mac and W >XP Pro computers. > >Where should I take these issues? > >Cheers > >Tony Grant > > > To share to the Mac with Linux, you may share it with CUPS and Mac (as long as it is OS X) should pick it up. As for Windows, you will have to share it as an SMB share, otherwise Windows will remain blind to it. To share it like that, you will need the samba packages and just configure it... I'd suggest gnomba or swat to properly configure the printer, you can then use system-config-samba to configure shares if you want. From tony at tgds.net Fri Jan 28 10:19:50 2005 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:19:50 +0100 Subject: Is printing a desktop issue? In-Reply-To: <41FA0E0F.8030208@prodigy.net.mx> References: <1106905333.3616.119.camel@hush> <41FA0E0F.8030208@prodigy.net.mx> Message-ID: <1106907591.3616.124.camel@hush> Le vendredi 28 janvier 2005 ? 04:03 -0600, Gain Paolo Mureddu a ?crit : > >Printer sharing is on but the printer remains invisible to my Mac and W > >XP Pro computers. ... > To share to the Mac with Linux, you may share it with CUPS and Mac (as > long as it is OS X) should pick it up. Well it doesn't see the printer I'm afraid > As for Windows, you will have to > share it as an SMB share, otherwise Windows will remain blind to it. To > share it like that, you will need the samba packages and just configure > it... I'd suggest gnomba or swat to properly configure the printer, you > can then use system-config-samba to configure shares if you want. printers are shared to everyone I had to do a lot of hacking to get the samba share to work in FC1 but after it just worked. Do I have to jump through the same hoops for FC3? Which version of Fedora will have correct configuration for printer sharing to W machines? It seems to be quite a common use for FC machines. Cheers Tony From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Fri Jan 28 11:03:20 2005 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gain Paolo Mureddu) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 05:03:20 -0600 Subject: Is printing a desktop issue? In-Reply-To: <1106907591.3616.124.camel@hush> References: <1106905333.3616.119.camel@hush> <41FA0E0F.8030208@prodigy.net.mx> <1106907591.3616.124.camel@hush> Message-ID: <41FA1BF8.3060601@prodigy.net.mx> tony wrote: > >Well it doesn't see the printer I'm afraid > > > > printers are shared to everyone > >I had to do a lot of hacking to get the samba share to work in FC1 but >after it just worked. Do I have to jump through the same hoops for FC3? >Which version of Fedora will have correct configuration for printer >sharing to W machines? It seems to be quite a common use for FC >machines. > >Cheers > >Tony > > > Now that is very good question... currently the system-config-samba program lacks a LOT of samba functionality. You have to use SWAT to properly configure samba on any situation. For the CUPS problem, how is your firewall set? You will need to open ports 631 (printer) and 515 (spooler) both TCP and UDP and you may need to manually add the printer in MacOSX From tony at tgds.net Fri Jan 28 12:09:42 2005 From: tony at tgds.net (tony) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:09:42 +0100 Subject: Is printing a desktop issue? In-Reply-To: <41FA1BF8.3060601@prodigy.net.mx> References: <1106905333.3616.119.camel@hush> <41FA0E0F.8030208@prodigy.net.mx> <1106907591.3616.124.camel@hush> <41FA1BF8.3060601@prodigy.net.mx> Message-ID: <1106914182.3616.137.camel@hush> Le vendredi 28 janvier 2005 ? 05:03 -0600, Gain Paolo Mureddu a ?crit : > >Which version of Fedora will have correct configuration for printer > >sharing to W machines? It seems to be quite a common use for FC > >machines. ... > Now that is very good question... currently the system-config-samba > program lacks a LOT of samba functionality. You have to use SWAT to > properly configure samba on any situation. OK thanks that was the answer I needed. =:-D Cheers Tony From walters at redhat.com Fri Jan 28 16:10:25 2005 From: walters at redhat.com (Colin Walters) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:10:25 -0500 Subject: Is printing a desktop issue? In-Reply-To: <1106905333.3616.119.camel@hush> References: <1106905333.3616.119.camel@hush> Message-ID: <1106928625.3881.1.camel@nexus.verbum.private> On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 10:42 +0100, tony wrote: > Printing in FC3 is in considerable worse state than in FC1. > > Eggcups is well named because it is as fragile as eggs... How does one > cancel a print job. Right click cancel = application crash. > > A new "feature" of my Epson stylus photo 1290 is not printing to the end > of job. > > Printer sharing is on but the printer remains invisible to my Mac and W > XP Pro computers. > > Where should I take these issues? https://bugzilla.redhat.com File eggcups bugs against desktop-printing. The Epson issue is probably a driver bug (try printing using different programs). From kyrre at solution-forge.net Fri Jan 28 22:24:28 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 23:24:28 +0100 Subject: Is printing a desktop issue? In-Reply-To: <41FA1BF8.3060601@prodigy.net.mx> References: <1106905333.3616.119.camel@hush> <41FA0E0F.8030208@prodigy.net.mx> <1106907591.3616.124.camel@hush> <41FA1BF8.3060601@prodigy.net.mx> Message-ID: <1106951067.6895.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> fre, 28.01.2005 kl. 12.03 skrev Gain Paolo Mureddu: > tony wrote: > > > > >Well it doesn't see the printer I'm afraid > > > > > > > > printers are shared to everyone > > > >I had to do a lot of hacking to get the samba share to work in FC1 but > >after it just worked. Do I have to jump through the same hoops for FC3? > >Which version of Fedora will have correct configuration for printer > >sharing to W machines? It seems to be quite a common use for FC > >machines. > > > >Cheers > > > >Tony > > > > > > > Now that is very good question... currently the system-config-samba > program lacks a LOT of samba functionality. You have to use SWAT to > properly configure samba on any situation. For the CUPS problem, how is > your firewall set? You will need to open ports 631 (printer) and 515 > (spooler) both TCP and UDP and you may need to manually add the printer > in MacOSX OSX - i have seen somebody printing to a fc printer server (ok, it was running proprietary filters... LEXMARK laser printers.... GRR!) from OSX word, (the printer was picked up autmatically as long as it was able to resolve the DNS... But every single one of them was named "created by system-config-printer".... Oops!). And the 1 page with "hello, test!" was 20 pages of binary rabble.... From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Fri Jan 28 23:20:59 2005 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gain Paolo Mureddu) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:20:59 -0600 Subject: Is printing a desktop issue? In-Reply-To: <1106951067.6895.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1106905333.3616.119.camel@hush> <41FA0E0F.8030208@prodigy.net.mx> <1106907591.3616.124.camel@hush> <41FA1BF8.3060601@prodigy.net.mx> Message-ID: <41FAC8DB.9080806@prodigy.net.mx> Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > >OSX - i have seen somebody printing to a fc printer server (ok, it was >running proprietary filters... LEXMARK laser printers.... GRR!) from OSX >word, (the printer was picked up autmatically as long as it was able to >resolve the DNS... But every single one of them was named "created by >system-config-printer".... Oops!). And the 1 page with "hello, test!" >was 20 pages of binary rabble.... > > > I've also seen MacOSX prin to both a FreeBSD print server running CUPS and a Linux (Red Hat 9) server running CUPS too... That was at my university. I think you would need to install some CUPS modules to OSX in order to successfully use it... I'll try to ask the IT who set that up at the university and see how did he got it running. From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sat Jan 29 19:29:29 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 20:29:29 +0100 Subject: Is printing a desktop issue? In-Reply-To: <41FAC8DB.9080806@prodigy.net.mx> References: <1106905333.3616.119.camel@hush> <41FA0E0F.8030208@prodigy.net.mx> <1106907591.3616.124.camel@hush> <41FA1BF8.3060601@prodigy.net.mx> <41FAC8DB.9080806@prodigy.net.mx> Message-ID: <1107026965.4174.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> l?r, 29.01.2005 kl. 00.20 skrev Gain Paolo Mureddu: > Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > > > >OSX - i have seen somebody printing to a fc printer server (ok, it was > >running proprietary filters... LEXMARK laser printers.... GRR!) from OSX > >word, (the printer was picked up autmatically as long as it was able to > >resolve the DNS... But every single one of them was named "created by > >system-config-printer".... Oops!). And the 1 page with "hello, test!" > >was 20 pages of binary rabble.... > > > > > > > I've also seen MacOSX prin to both a FreeBSD print server running CUPS > and a Linux (Red Hat 9) server running CUPS too... That was at my > university. I think you would need to install some CUPS modules to OSX > in order to successfully use it... I'll try to ask the IT who set that > up at the university and see how did he got it running. Ie. the OSX guys either got to install some app onto their systems, or they must use samba? Not my mac, just some friends of mine. But i *did* believe that ipp was a standards-based protocol, and cups was cups... So that mac and linux should work perfectly well together when it comes to printing. BTW. it works perfectly from the FC3 boxes it is intended to serve. But something that *is* a pain in the ass about cups auto-config is that it needs DNS. If it didn't it would be so extremely simple - just plug it in and print, if cups can't find the correct server at the address, just use ip address directly (v4 OR v6). Putting up a DNS server / maintaining a bunch of host files is a PITA. Especially if there is a DNS/DHCP server running windows that you have no power over, which can't look up the correct ip for the hostname of the sharing box. Without this trouble, cups auto-config would be a dream... Kyrre