From caillon at redhat.com Thu Sep 1 20:59:44 2005 From: caillon at redhat.com (Christopher Aillon) Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 16:59:44 -0400 Subject: kde menu entries In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43176BC0.2010808@redhat.com> On 08/16/2005 05:27 PM, Jozef Kruger wrote: > Hi, > > I'm just new to this list, I searched the archive for similar > postings, but didn't find anything. > I've been using kde for a couple of years now, first from redhat > distributions and later fedora. Currently I'm using fedora core 4. > > My questions is about the K menu in FC4. I find it very cluttered and > overfull. > For instance, to change a setting of some kind, you have to look in: > Preferences, system settings, system tools or Control center. > > I think, although I realise matters like this one are very subjective > to personal taste, that this should be made more clear. > A start would be to group all programs into a less number of main > categories: Applications and Settings for example. In there you could > make a more subtle separation. > > Bottom line of this posting is, is there anyone or a group actively > involved in this stuff? I'd like to help a little if I could. Hi, It doesn't look like you ever got a response here... I'd start off filing bugs at http://bugzilla.redhat.com/ and asking the maintainer of the KDE packages in question. Hope that helps! From bhabeshkumar_8 at msn.com Wed Sep 7 11:26:15 2005 From: bhabeshkumar_8 at msn.com (BHABESH KUMAR BHATTACHARYA) Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 16:56:15 +0530 Subject: To play CD Rom on Fedora Message-ID: I am using Fedora Core 4. But one common problem I find in both Core 3 & Core 4 is that while hardwarebrowser list my cdrom drive as /dev/hdc the cdplayer show it the device as /dev/cdrom and would not accept any change. Iam new to linux. Can you help?Thank you. B.K.Bhattacharya _________________________________________________________________ Logon to MSN Games http://www.msngamez.com/in/gamezone/ Enjoy unlimited action From dewaalk at weathersa.co.za Wed Sep 7 12:07:08 2005 From: dewaalk at weathersa.co.za (dewaalk) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 14:07:08 +0200 Subject: To play CD Rom on Fedora In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050907120707.89E9BC2DAB@venus.weathersa.co.za> Good day Check you /etc/fstab and if you do an "ls -l /dev/cdrom" it will show a link to the /dev/hd? device. You will have to remove the link if it's not correct and create a new one. Regards Karel -----Original Message----- From: fedora-desktop-list-bounces at redhat.com [mailto:fedora-desktop-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of BHABESH KUMAR BHATTACHARYA Sent: 07 September 2005 01:26 PM To: fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com Subject: To play CD Rom on Fedora I am using Fedora Core 4. But one common problem I find in both Core 3 & Core 4 is that while hardwarebrowser list my cdrom drive as /dev/hdc the cdplayer show it the device as /dev/cdrom and would not accept any change. Iam new to linux. Can you help?Thank you. B.K.Bhattacharya _________________________________________________________________ Logon to MSN Games http://www.msngamez.com/in/gamezone/ Enjoy unlimited action -- Fedora-desktop-list mailing list Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list From angeltoledo at gmail.com Wed Sep 7 14:49:53 2005 From: angeltoledo at gmail.com (Angel Toledo Castro) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 09:49:53 -0500 Subject: To play CD Rom on Fedora In-Reply-To: <20050907120707.89E9BC2DAB@venus.weathersa.co.za> References: <20050907120707.89E9BC2DAB@venus.weathersa.co.za> Message-ID: <7b8759f1050907074974f9c40d@mail.gmail.com> On 9/7/05, dewaalk wrote: > > Good day > Check you /etc/fstab and if you do an "ls -l /dev/cdrom" it will show a > link > to the /dev/hd? device. > You will have to remove the link if it's not correct and create a new one. > Regards > Karel > > -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-desktop-list-bounces at redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-desktop-list-bounces at redhat.com] On Behalf Of BHABESH KUMAR > BHATTACHARYA > Sent: 07 September 2005 01:26 PM > To: fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > Subject: To play CD Rom on Fedora > > I am using Fedora Core 4. But one common problem I find in both Core 3 & > Core 4 is that while hardwarebrowser list my cdrom drive as /dev/hdc the > cdplayer show it the device as /dev/cdrom and would not accept any change. > Iam new to linux. Can you help?Thank you. B.K.Bhattacharya > > _________________________________________________________________ > Logon to MSN Games http://www.msngamez.com/in/gamezone/ Enjoy unlimited > action > > -- > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > > -- > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > Is it a cdburner or just a cdplayer? I had the same problem on my FC3 but I fixed it mounting it as the guy above says. You may also read the NeroLinux documentary and you will find some nice advices to fix this. Check for /media/cd* :) -- ---------------------------------------------------- Angel Toledo Castro, Oax, Oaxaca. http://angeltc.taweno.com - Mi Blog ----------------------------------------------------- Maybe Thats My Fantasy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kyrre at solution-forge.net Wed Sep 7 21:50:53 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 23:50:53 +0200 Subject: To play CD Rom on Fedora In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1126129852.4463.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> /dev/cdrom is probably just a symlink ("shortcut", but low-level) to /dev/hdc. Do you have more than one optical device in your system? ons, 07.09.2005 kl. 13.26 skrev BHABESH KUMAR BHATTACHARYA: > I am using Fedora Core 4. But one common problem I find in both Core 3 & > Core 4 is that while hardwarebrowser list my cdrom drive as /dev/hdc the > cdplayer show it the device as /dev/cdrom and would not accept any change. > Iam new to linux. Can you help?Thank you. B.K.Bhattacharya > > _________________________________________________________________ > Logon to MSN Games http://www.msngamez.com/in/gamezone/ Enjoy unlimited > action From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Fri Sep 9 00:18:12 2005 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gain Paolo Mureddu) Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:18:12 -0500 Subject: To play CD Rom on Fedora In-Reply-To: <7b8759f1050907074974f9c40d@mail.gmail.com> References: <"20050907120707.89 E 9BC2DAB"@venus.weathersa.co.za> <7b8759f1050907074974f9c40d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4320D4C4.1040000@prodigy.net.mx> Usually, Fedora will asign a symbolic link to your actual device (/dev/hdc, in your case) named /dev/cdrom, regardless of the type of optical drive you have, if you have a DVD burner for instance (like in my case) you may have actually three links pointing to /dev/hdc: /dev/cdrom, /dev/dvd and /dev/cdwriter, all pointing to the same device. That usually is enough. Now if you are using GNOME and you are not getting any sound off your CD-Rom, even when it is reading, you may have a problem with the analogue connection between the drive and the sound card. Unlike KCD or other media players, GNOME's CD player uses the analogue connection between the drive and the sound card, rather than Dgital Sound extration method (like KCD or Windows Media Player, for that matter). I also use GNOME as my primary Desktop environment (don't like much KDE), but usually find myself using KCD for CD playback (as well as AmaroK for media player [.mp3, .ogg, .wma, etc]). You can use both GNOME and KDE applications in either. From sundaram at redhat.com Mon Sep 12 21:04:51 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 02:34:51 +0530 Subject: [Fwd: Plans for Sparc???] Message-ID: <4325ED73.7000904@redhat.com> Hi I am curious about this one too regards Rahul -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Brian D. McGrew" Subject: Plans for Sparc??? Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:29:12 -0700 Size: 3446 URL: From sub1.fedoralist at msquared.id.au Tue Sep 13 18:15:38 2005 From: sub1.fedoralist at msquared.id.au (Msquared) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:15:38 +0800 Subject: fingerworks touchstream/igesture problem with click/drag events (FC1 -> FC3/FC4) Message-ID: <20050913181538.GA24578@sliderule.msquared.com.au> I'm not sure which list to post to, so I thought I'd try these three (other users, hardcore testers, and desktop-specific). I have a Fingerworks Touchstream keyboard. It's basically a USB-based input device that looks (to the host computer) like a USB keyboard plus USB mouse. It behaves like the little laptop touch pads, but can track multiple fingers simultaneously and map such movements and gestures to keystrokes, mouse clicks, mouse movements, combinations, and sequences of all of that, too. (I mention the iGesture pad since it's a cut-down version of the Touchstream, and may suffer the same problem; hopefully someone else will have come across this issue with either a Touchstream or an iGesture). Anyway, that's the background. Generally, this device works beautifully under FC1. I'm about to move to FC4, but I have discovered a problem: when I click-and-drag, the pointer moves a short distance before the click seems to take effect. For simple actions, such as moving icons on the desktop, it's annoying, but not critical. When using paint applications, however, it's downright frustrating. The problem occurs when using the device on FC3 or FC4 (I haven't tried FC2). If I go back to FC1, the problem completely goes away. I did run xev to see what X thinks is going on, and as it happens, when I do a click/drag under FC4 there actually are a few MotionNotify events before the ButtonPress event. Under FC1, the ButtonPress event always comes first. The only thing that comes readily to mind is that FC1 is XFree86 and FC3/FC4 is xorg. Is there some sort of internal difference that affects the order of processing of events? Is there some way I can delve deeper into the X event queues to find out what's different, and possibly fix it? Note that there is no driver required for the Touchstream, as it presents to the host machine as a simple USB keyboard and USB mouse (plus an additional USB device for programming, but that's not normally used). Regards, Msquared... From kyrre at solution-forge.net Tue Sep 13 19:08:48 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:08:48 +0200 Subject: fingerworks touchstream/igesture problem with click/drag events (FC1 -> FC3/FC4) In-Reply-To: <20050913181538.GA24578@sliderule.msquared.com.au> References: <20050913181538.GA24578@sliderule.msquared.com.au> Message-ID: <1126638528.3357.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Only thing i could think of off the top of my head is synaptics drivers tir, 13.09.2005 kl. 20.15 skrev Msquared: > I'm not sure which list to post to, so I thought I'd try these three > (other users, hardcore testers, and desktop-specific). > > I have a Fingerworks Touchstream keyboard. It's basically a USB-based > input device that looks (to the host computer) like a USB keyboard plus > USB mouse. It behaves like the little laptop touch pads, but can track > multiple fingers simultaneously and map such movements and gestures to > keystrokes, mouse clicks, mouse movements, combinations, and sequences of > all of that, too. (I mention the iGesture pad since it's a cut-down > version of the Touchstream, and may suffer the same problem; hopefully > someone else will have come across this issue with either a Touchstream or > an iGesture). > > Anyway, that's the background. Generally, this device works beautifully > under FC1. I'm about to move to FC4, but I have discovered a problem: > when I click-and-drag, the pointer moves a short distance before the click > seems to take effect. For simple actions, such as moving icons on the > desktop, it's annoying, but not critical. When using paint applications, > however, it's downright frustrating. > > The problem occurs when using the device on FC3 or FC4 (I haven't tried > FC2). If I go back to FC1, the problem completely goes away. > > I did run xev to see what X thinks is going on, and as it happens, when I > do a click/drag under FC4 there actually are a few MotionNotify events > before the ButtonPress event. Under FC1, the ButtonPress event always > comes first. > > The only thing that comes readily to mind is that FC1 is XFree86 and > FC3/FC4 is xorg. > > Is there some sort of internal difference that affects the order of > processing of events? Is there some way I can delve deeper into the X > event queues to find out what's different, and possibly fix it? > > Note that there is no driver required for the Touchstream, as it presents > to the host machine as a simple USB keyboard and USB mouse (plus an > additional USB device for programming, but that's not normally used). > > Regards, Msquared... From sub1.fedoralist at msquared.id.au Wed Sep 14 04:45:13 2005 From: sub1.fedoralist at msquared.id.au (Msquared) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:45:13 +0800 Subject: fingerworks touchstream click/drag problem SOLVED In-Reply-To: <1126638528.3357.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <20050913181538.GA24578@sliderule.msquared.com.au> <1126638528.3357.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20050914044513.GA24835@sliderule.msquared.com.au> On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 09:08:48PM +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > Only thing i could think of off the top of my head is synaptics drivers I doubt it, but your comment did prompt me to dig deeper, and I discovered that this line on my FC1 box: Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" became this on my FC4 box: Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" I changed it back, and the problem is fixed. Thank you! (I've posted to all three lists in case someone sees this in the archives: now there is a solution. :o) ) Regards, Msquared... From sylcheung at gmail.com Fri Sep 16 18:41:46 2005 From: sylcheung at gmail.com (samuel cheung) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:41:46 -0500 Subject: Gnome 2.12 on fedora Message-ID: <1ea59785050916114121aaaff9@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Can you please tell me if there is a gnome 2.12 for fedora 4? If yes, how to upgrade gnome to 2.12 for fedora 4? Thank you. Sam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From kyrre at solution-forge.net Fri Sep 16 22:14:40 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 00:14:40 +0200 Subject: Gnome 2.12 on fedora In-Reply-To: <1ea59785050916114121aaaff9@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ea59785050916114121aaaff9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1126908879.4466.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Well, Rawhide carries gnome 2.12 - but it eats some babies. fre, 16.09.2005 kl. 20.41 skrev samuel cheung: > Hi, > Can you please tell me if there is a gnome 2.12 for fedora 4? > If yes, how to upgrade gnome to 2.12 for fedora 4? > > Thank you. > Sam > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > -- > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list From sylcheung at gmail.com Sat Sep 17 00:47:19 2005 From: sylcheung at gmail.com (samuel cheung) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 19:47:19 -0500 Subject: mp3 driver for fedora Message-ID: <1ea59785050916174755f35055@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Can some one please tell me where I can find mp3 driver for fedora? 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On 9/16/05, Rex Dieter wrote: > > samuel cheung wrote: > > Hi, > > Can some one please tell me where I can find mp3 driver for fedora? > > I install XMMS, but it can't play mp3 files. > > rpm.livna.org > > -- Rex > > > -- > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From sundaram at redhat.com Sat Sep 17 07:39:39 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 13:09:39 +0530 Subject: hibernate in gnome 2.10 In-Reply-To: <1ea5978505091700191a3910a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ea5978505091700191a3910a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <432BC83B.7060605@redhat.com> forsamuel cheung wrote: > Hi, > I am using gnome 2.10 on Fedora 4. > I would like to know if there is a hibernate gnome 2.10? If yes, how > to use that. Hibernation or software suspend is not available in Fedora Core 4. It is however enabled in the development tree and the next release might have it regards Rahul From rdieter at math.unl.edu Sat Sep 17 10:26:35 2005 From: rdieter at math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 05:26:35 -0500 Subject: mp3 driver for fedora In-Reply-To: <1ea5978505091619104d85983b@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ea59785050916174755f35055@mail.gmail.com> <432B781F.9090204@math.unl.edu> <1ea5978505091619104d85983b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <432BEF5B.906@math.unl.edu> samuel cheung wrote: > Thanks. but which rpm is for mp3 files? xmms-mp3 -- Rex From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sat Sep 17 11:51:22 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 13:51:22 +0200 Subject: hibernate in gnome 2.10 In-Reply-To: <432BC83B.7060605@redhat.com> References: <1ea5978505091700191a3910a5@mail.gmail.com> <432BC83B.7060605@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1126957881.1845.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> However, ACPI suspend may be aviable. But there isn't any GUI for it (Rahul: will ACPI suspend also be included in the "suspend menu"?). To activate ACPI suspend, write (on a root command line): echo "3" > /proc/acpi/sleep Some computers are affected by this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=166097 but it migth still be aviable by: echo "mem" > /sys/power/state If you want to use any ACPI buttons on your computer to do this, theese can be programmed to run commands/scripts (as root) by modifying the files in /etc/acpid. If you want help with this, just ask. Good luck. l?r, 17.09.2005 kl. 09.39 skrev Rahul Sundaram: > forsamuel cheung wrote: > > > Hi, > > I am using gnome 2.10 on Fedora 4. > > I would like to know if there is a hibernate gnome 2.10? If yes, how > > to use that. > > Hibernation or software suspend is not available in Fedora Core 4. It is > however enabled in the development tree and the next release might have it > > regards > Rahul From sundaram at redhat.com Sat Sep 17 12:02:19 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 17:32:19 +0530 Subject: hibernate in gnome 2.10 In-Reply-To: <1126957881.1845.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1ea5978505091700191a3910a5@mail.gmail.com> <432BC83B.7060605@redhat.com> <1126957881.1845.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <432C05CB.8050400@redhat.com> Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: >However, ACPI suspend may be aviable. But there isn't any GUI for it >(Rahul: will ACPI suspend also be included in the "suspend menu"?). > > This one is under consideration. http://gnome-power.sourceforge.net/. If software suspend is available in the next release, g-p-m might be too. It all depends on how much testing and feedback developers get from the development tree on this regards Rahul From kyrre at solution-forge.net Sat Sep 17 13:03:46 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 15:03:46 +0200 Subject: hibernate in gnome 2.10 In-Reply-To: <432C05CB.8050400@redhat.com> References: <1ea5978505091700191a3910a5@mail.gmail.com> <432BC83B.7060605@redhat.com> <1126957881.1845.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> <432C05CB.8050400@redhat.com> Message-ID: <1126962225.1845.8.camel@localhost.localdomain> l?r, 17.09.2005 kl. 14.02 skrev Rahul Sundaram: > Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > >However, ACPI suspend may be aviable. But there isn't any GUI for it > >(Rahul: will ACPI suspend also be included in the "suspend menu"?). > > > > > This one is under consideration. http://gnome-power.sourceforge.net/. > If software suspend is available in the next release, g-p-m might be > too. It all depends on how much testing and feedback developers get from > the development tree on this That looks great! BTW, even if software suspend isn't aviable, that app looks like it makes it possible to set preferences for a lot of other things. Like what happens when i push that or that button, shutdown when power critically low, HW ACPI suspend as supported on many laptops (to me it looks like the code has become *very* much better recently) etc. Software suspend is great, but it isn't the only thing out there! Kyrre From roland.knoepfli at gmx.ch Sat Sep 17 14:30:51 2005 From: roland.knoepfli at gmx.ch (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Roland_Kn=F6pfli?=) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:30:51 +0200 Subject: hibernate in gnome 2.10 In-Reply-To: <1ea5978505091700191a3910a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ea5978505091700191a3910a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <432C289B.6080204@gmx.ch> hi, i am currently running fc4 with hibernation support. i had to install a new kernel with hibernation support enabled. rpm's for fc4 can be downloaded here: http://mhensler.de/swsusp/index_en.php it works just fine for me! roland samuel cheung wrote: > Hi, > I am using gnome 2.10 on Fedora 4. > I would like to know if there is a hibernate for gnome 2.10? If yes, how > to use that. > I try the gnome 2.12 live cd, and I notice there is a hibernate > function. But i can't find > the same hibernate on 2.10. > > Thanks for any help. > From behdad at cs.toronto.edu Sat Sep 17 23:45:22 2005 From: behdad at cs.toronto.edu (Behdad Esfahbod) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 19:45:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: hibernate in gnome 2.10 In-Reply-To: <432C289B.6080204@gmx.ch> References: <1ea5978505091700191a3910a5@mail.gmail.com> <432C289B.6080204@gmx.ch> Message-ID: Same here. I recompiled the default FC4 kernel, only turned hibernation on, and works excellent. I wish they have had enabled it by default. behdad On Sat, 17 Sep 2005, [ISO-8859-1] Roland Kn?pfli wrote: > hi, > > i am currently running fc4 with hibernation support. > i had to install a new kernel with hibernation support enabled. > > rpm's for fc4 can be downloaded here: http://mhensler.de/swsusp/index_en.php > > it works just fine for me! > > roland > > samuel cheung wrote: > > Hi, > > I am using gnome 2.10 on Fedora 4. > > I would like to know if there is a hibernate for gnome 2.10? If yes, how > > to use that. > > I try the gnome 2.12 live cd, and I notice there is a hibernate > > function. But i can't find > > the same hibernate on 2.10. > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > --behdad http://behdad.org/ From gcarr at lanl.gov Mon Sep 19 20:27:50 2005 From: gcarr at lanl.gov (Gary P Carr) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 14:27:50 -0600 Subject: Jump Drive Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20050919142649.01e301c0@pobox1663.lanl.gov> How do I get Fedora to recognize and read a Lexar JumpDrive? From hackmiester at gmail.com Mon Sep 19 22:07:42 2005 From: hackmiester at gmail.com (hackmiester) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 17:07:42 -0500 Subject: Jump Drive In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20050919142649.01e301c0@pobox1663.lanl.gov> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20050919142649.01e301c0@pobox1663.lanl.gov> Message-ID: <7f30c4c705091915076784125@mail.gmail.com> open command prompt. if you have fedora core 4, replace all instances of mnt with media. cd /mnt/ sudo mkdir sda1 sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 (use flash drive, etc, get files, whatever, then when done:) sudo umount /dev/sda1 On 9/19/05, Gary P Carr wrote: > How do I get Fedora to recognize and read a Lexar JumpDrive? > > > -- > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > -- -hackmiester From hackmiester at gmail.com Mon Sep 19 22:09:10 2005 From: hackmiester at gmail.com (hackmiester) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 17:09:10 -0500 Subject: hibernate in gnome 2.10 In-Reply-To: <432BC83B.7060605@redhat.com> References: <1ea5978505091700191a3910a5@mail.gmail.com> <432BC83B.7060605@redhat.com> Message-ID: <7f30c4c7050919150915819c43@mail.gmail.com> isn't this taking a step backwards? in fc1, i could use standby and hibernate with my ibm r51. On 9/17/05, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > forsamuel cheung wrote: > > > Hi, > > I am using gnome 2.10 on Fedora 4. > > I would like to know if there is a hibernate gnome 2.10? If yes, how > > to use that. > > Hibernation or software suspend is not available in Fedora Core 4. It is > however enabled in the development tree and the next release might have it > > regards > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > -- -hackmiester From hackmiester at gmail.com Mon Sep 19 22:11:00 2005 From: hackmiester at gmail.com (hackmiester) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 17:11:00 -0500 Subject: mp3 driver for fedora In-Reply-To: <432B7D1C.6070101@n-man.com> References: <1ea59785050916174755f35055@mail.gmail.com> <432B781F.9090204@math.unl.edu> <1ea5978505091619104d85983b@mail.gmail.com> <432B7D1C.6070101@n-man.com> Message-ID: <7f30c4c705091915111d57cbd8@mail.gmail.com> having an mp3 decoder is perfectly legal. in most countries anyway. however, he has an american address... so i would guess it's legal in his case. On 9/16/05, Patrick Barnes wrote: > samuel cheung wrote: > > > Thanks. but which rpm is for mp3 files? > > > > > > > > On 9/16/05, *Rex Dieter* > > wrote: > > > > samuel cheung wrote: > > > Hi, > > > Can some one please tell me where I can find mp3 driver for fedora? > > > I install XMMS, but it can't play mp3 files. > > > > rpm.livna.org > > > > -- Rex > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > > > > > > > Due to legal concerns, we can't provide you with or detail how to get > MP3 support in Fedora. You can find answers to many frequently asked > questions at http://fedorafaq.org/ > > -- > Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes > nman64 at n-man.com > > www.n-man.com > -- > > > > > -- > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > > > -- -hackmiester From hackmiester at gmail.com Mon Sep 19 22:18:52 2005 From: hackmiester at gmail.com (hackmiester) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 17:18:52 -0500 Subject: fingerworks touchstream click/drag problem SOLVED In-Reply-To: <20050914044513.GA24835@sliderule.msquared.com.au> References: <20050913181538.GA24578@sliderule.msquared.com.au> <1126638528.3357.18.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050914044513.GA24835@sliderule.msquared.com.au> Message-ID: <7f30c4c7050919151831aa5855@mail.gmail.com> that option is set in the setup :-P On 9/13/05, Msquared wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 09:08:48PM +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > > Only thing i could think of off the top of my head is synaptics drivers > > I doubt it, but your comment did prompt me to dig deeper, and I discovered > that this line on my FC1 box: > > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" > > became this on my FC4 box: > > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" > > > I changed it back, and the problem is fixed. Thank you! > > (I've posted to all three lists in case someone sees this in the archives: > now there is a solution. :o) ) > > Regards, Msquared... > > -- > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > -- -hackmiester From christoph.wickert at gmx.de Tue Sep 20 14:04:09 2005 From: christoph.wickert at gmx.de (Christoph Wickert) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:04:09 +0200 Subject: Jump Drive In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20050919142649.01e301c0@pobox1663.lanl.gov> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20050919142649.01e301c0@pobox1663.lanl.gov> Message-ID: <1127225049.4332.25.camel@hal9000.local.lan> Am Montag, den 19.09.2005, 14:27 -0600 schrieb Gary P Carr: > How do I get Fedora to recognize and read a Lexar JumpDrive? Why do ask this on every mailinglist if you already got response on fedora-list? This list is for "Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop", so you are better off on fedora-list. Christoph From kyrre at solution-forge.net Tue Sep 20 17:55:59 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 19:55:59 +0200 Subject: Jump Drive In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20050919142649.01e301c0@pobox1663.lanl.gov> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20050919142649.01e301c0@pobox1663.lanl.gov> Message-ID: <1127238958.3403.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> man, 19.09.2005 kl. 22.27 skrev Gary P Carr: > How do I get Fedora to recognize and read a Lexar JumpDrive? > Is that an USB flash reader? It should be recognized automatically when you insert it, and when you insert some media, it should be mounted and pop up on your desktop. If not, that is a bug - please file a bug against component kernel. Kyrre From kyrre at solution-forge.net Tue Sep 20 17:59:01 2005 From: kyrre at solution-forge.net (Kyrre Ness Sjobak) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 19:59:01 +0200 Subject: mp3 driver for fedora In-Reply-To: <432B7D1C.6070101@n-man.com> References: <1ea59785050916174755f35055@mail.gmail.com> <432B781F.9090204@math.unl.edu> <1ea5978505091619104d85983b@mail.gmail.com> <432B7D1C.6070101@n-man.com> Message-ID: <1127239140.3403.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> l?r, 17.09.2005 kl. 04.19 skrev Patrick Barnes: > samuel cheung wrote: > > > Thanks. but which rpm is for mp3 files? > > > > > > > > On 9/16/05, *Rex Dieter* > > wrote: > > > > samuel cheung wrote: > > > Hi, > > > Can some one please tell me where I can find mp3 driver for fedora? > > > I install XMMS, but it can't play mp3 files. > > > > rpm.livna.org > > > > -- Rex > > > > > > -- > > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > > > > > > > Due to legal concerns, we can't provide you with or detail how to get > MP3 support in Fedora. You can find answers to many frequently asked > questions at http://fedorafaq.org/ > > -- > Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes > nman64 at n-man.com > > www.n-man.com But if a *de*coder is legal, why isn't this shipped? Very many people would probably be very, very happy if they could *play* their old mp3's without any "fuzz" (while ripping shiny new stuff to ogg). If they really really need an *en*coder, let them go out hunting. Or? Kyrre From sundaram at redhat.com Tue Sep 20 18:05:37 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 23:35:37 +0530 Subject: mp3 driver for fedora In-Reply-To: <1127239140.3403.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1ea59785050916174755f35055@mail.gmail.com> <432B781F.9090204@math.unl.edu> <1ea5978505091619104d85983b@mail.gmail.com> <432B7D1C.6070101@n-man.com> <1127239140.3403.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <43304F71.3040502@redhat.com> Hi >But if a *de*coder is legal, why isn't this shipped? Very many people >would probably be very, very happy if they could *play* their old mp3's >without any "fuzz" (while ripping shiny new stuff to ogg). > >If they really really need an *en*coder, let them go out hunting. > >Or? > > This has been discussed several times before. see http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc4/errata/#sn-why-no-mp3. regards Rahul From gcarr at lanl.gov Tue Sep 20 19:22:48 2005 From: gcarr at lanl.gov (Gary P Carr) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:22:48 -0600 Subject: Jump Drive In-Reply-To: <1127238958.3403.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20050919142649.01e301c0@pobox1663.lanl.gov> <1127238958.3403.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20050920131949.01e3dd08@pobox1663.lanl.gov> Thanks for the response Kyrre. From several other posts I gather that that is the standard response for FC3 or FC4. I am running FC2. Even with FC2 I should be able to see messages from dmesg showing that the system recognized the USB drive, and I should be able to mount it manually. What I discovered on my PC (Velocity Micro) was that the USB ports in the front of the computer did not work, I saw error messages when running dmesg. The USB ports on the back of the computer worked, and I was at least able to manually mount the USB drive. At 11:55 AM 9/20/2005, you wrote: >man, 19.09.2005 kl. 22.27 skrev Gary P Carr: > > How do I get Fedora to recognize and read a Lexar JumpDrive? > > > >Is that an USB flash reader? It should be recognized automatically when >you insert it, and when you insert some media, it should be mounted and >pop up on your desktop. > >If not, that is a bug - please file a bug against component kernel. > >Kyrre > >-- >Fedora-desktop-list mailing list >Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list From hackmiester at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 14:55:47 2005 From: hackmiester at gmail.com (hackmiester) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:55:47 -0500 Subject: mp3 driver for fedora In-Reply-To: <43304F71.3040502@redhat.com> References: <1ea59785050916174755f35055@mail.gmail.com> <432B781F.9090204@math.unl.edu> <1ea5978505091619104d85983b@mail.gmail.com> <432B7D1C.6070101@n-man.com> <1127239140.3403.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <43304F71.3040502@redhat.com> Message-ID: <7f30c4c7050921075572002a8f@mail.gmail.com> according to that link, and what i've heard, having it is legal - you just can't have it be gpl, and fedora is gpl, so they can't ship it. this is the same reason lame hasn't been shut down. thanks for the links to files though, i just realised my mp3 doesn't work in fc4 :-D On 9/20/05, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > >But if a *de*coder is legal, why isn't this shipped? Very many people > >would probably be very, very happy if they could *play* their old mp3's > >without any "fuzz" (while ripping shiny new stuff to ogg). > > > >If they really really need an *en*coder, let them go out hunting. > > > >Or? > > > > > This has been discussed several times before. see > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc4/errata/#sn-why-no-mp3. > > regards > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > -- -hackmiester From hackmiester at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 14:57:58 2005 From: hackmiester at gmail.com (hackmiester) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 09:57:58 -0500 Subject: Jump Drive In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20050920131949.01e3dd08@pobox1663.lanl.gov> References: <6.2.3.4.2.20050919142649.01e301c0@pobox1663.lanl.gov> <1127238958.3403.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <6.2.3.4.2.20050920131949.01e3dd08@pobox1663.lanl.gov> Message-ID: <7f30c4c70509210757756ae514@mail.gmail.com> this really does need to be moved off of the dev list. please forward your previous message, including quotes, to fedora-list at redhat.com . this list is only for developers. even if you don't get an immediate response, please don't forward to the devlist. On 9/20/05, Gary P Carr wrote: > Thanks for the response Kyrre. From several other posts I gather that > that is the standard response for FC3 or FC4. I am running FC2. Even > with FC2 I should be able to see messages from dmesg showing that the > system recognized the USB drive, and I should be able to mount it manually. > > What I discovered on my PC (Velocity Micro) was that the USB ports in > the front of the computer did not work, I saw error messages when > running dmesg. The USB ports on the back of the computer worked, and > I was at least able to manually mount the USB drive. > > At 11:55 AM 9/20/2005, you wrote: > >man, 19.09.2005 kl. 22.27 skrev Gary P Carr: > > > How do I get Fedora to recognize and read a Lexar JumpDrive? > > > > > > >Is that an USB flash reader? It should be recognized automatically when > >you insert it, and when you insert some media, it should be mounted and > >pop up on your desktop. > > > >If not, that is a bug - please file a bug against component kernel. > > > >Kyrre > > > >-- > >Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > >Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > > > > -- > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > -- -hackmiester From sundaram at redhat.com Wed Sep 21 15:02:08 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 20:32:08 +0530 Subject: mp3 driver for fedora In-Reply-To: <7f30c4c7050921075572002a8f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ea59785050916174755f35055@mail.gmail.com> <432B781F.9090204@math.unl.edu> <1ea5978505091619104d85983b@mail.gmail.com> <432B7D1C.6070101@n-man.com> <1127239140.3403.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <43304F71.3040502@redhat.com> <7f30c4c7050921075572002a8f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <433175F0.7050302@redhat.com> hackmiester wrote: >according to that link, and what i've heard, having it is legal - you >just can't have it be gpl, and fedora is gpl, so they can't ship it. > The explanation is not so simple. It might be legal depending on your region. Fedora only has software that isnt restricted by patents and includes many other open source besides the GPL licensed ones regards Rahul From hackmiester at gmail.com Wed Sep 21 17:29:33 2005 From: hackmiester at gmail.com (hackmiester) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 12:29:33 -0500 Subject: mp3 driver for fedora In-Reply-To: <433175F0.7050302@redhat.com> References: <1ea59785050916174755f35055@mail.gmail.com> <432B781F.9090204@math.unl.edu> <1ea5978505091619104d85983b@mail.gmail.com> <432B7D1C.6070101@n-man.com> <1127239140.3403.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> <43304F71.3040502@redhat.com> <7f30c4c7050921075572002a8f@mail.gmail.com> <433175F0.7050302@redhat.com> Message-ID: <7f30c4c705092110291e8efa5c@mail.gmail.com> yeah... legal things are complicated like that. boo @ software patents. On 9/21/05, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > hackmiester wrote: > > >according to that link, and what i've heard, having it is legal - you > >just can't have it be gpl, and fedora is gpl, so they can't ship it. > > > The explanation is not so simple. It might be legal depending on your > region. Fedora only has software that isnt restricted by patents and > includes many other open source besides the GPL licensed ones > > regards > Rahul > > -- > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > -- -hackmiester From sobhi at us.ibm.com Fri Sep 23 04:52:00 2005 From: sobhi at us.ibm.com (Ali Sobhi) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:52:00 -0500 Subject: So what about Gnome 2.12? Message-ID: I'm trying to compile Gnome 2.12 on FC4 (Intel-32) using jhbuild. Running into few problems. Has anyone successfully compiled Gnome 2.12 on FC4? BTW, using jhbuild for Gnome-2.12 (not the HEAD) is not going to do the trick. Stuff break. Regards, Ali Sobhi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sr. Consultant - Austin Accessibility Center - IBM Research 512-823-0064 (T/L 793) sobhi at us.ibm.com http://www.ibm.com/able/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sundaram at redhat.com Fri Sep 23 13:44:27 2005 From: sundaram at redhat.com (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 19:14:27 +0530 Subject: So what about Gnome 2.12? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <433406BB.6050003@redhat.com> Ali Sobhi wrote: >I'm trying to compile Gnome 2.12 on FC4 (Intel-32) using jhbuild. Running >into few problems. > >Has anyone successfully compiled Gnome 2.12 on FC4? > http://fedoranews.org/mediawiki/index.php/Upgrade_your_FC4_box_to_the_latest_Gnome_2.12_desktop Such questions are better suited for fedora-list regards Rahul From sylcheung at gmail.com Mon Sep 26 06:21:22 2005 From: sylcheung at gmail.com (samuel cheung) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 01:21:22 -0500 Subject: xmms gnome control applet Message-ID: <1ea5978505092523215f557a23@mail.gmail.com> Hi, can you pleaes tell me where I can find a xmms gnome control applet? Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From pit at 0xff.at Tue Sep 27 09:40:49 2005 From: pit at 0xff.at (Karl Pitrich) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:40:49 +0200 Subject: Evolution troubles with Connector / Exchange Message-ID: <1127814049.10986.7.camel@zaphod.fabafsc.fabagl.fabasoft.com> Hi, upgrading my corporate workstation from RH9+Ximian Desktop (Evolution 1.4+Ximian Connector) to FC4 seems to cause major headache when connecting Evolution to Exchange, whereas things worked really fine with RH9/Ximian. Basically, Evolution freezes randomly, most times while 'scanning for changes messages' but also at other operations. Furthermore, calendar and addressbook wont work at all, Evo gets stuck also while attempting to autocomplete an address. well, every Xth startup, the addressbook actually works... - Are problems with Evolution/Exchange a known issue? - Is anyone actually using that combination? - best way to provide debug info? (CAMEL_VERBOSE_DEBUG=1 E2K_DEBUG=5 don't yield useful results) - strace reveals, that evo and evo-exchange wait on a futex, sometimes the network connection seems to have been disconnected. thanks for any hints, / pit From ymedians at yahoo.es Thu Sep 29 02:01:40 2005 From: ymedians at yahoo.es (yordy) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 04:01:40 +0200 (CEST) Subject: FC4 GNOME 2.10 a bit slow on Toshiba Satellite A40 Message-ID: <20050929020140.14047.qmail@web26703.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi I have a Toshiba Laptop (2.8 GHz, 768 MB RAM, TOSHIBA MK4025GAS 4200 rpm) with Fedora Core 4 (GNOME 2.10) installed, I note that is a slightly slow, for example, when I boot the first time that I click the GNOME menu panel it delay a few seconds in open, during this process my HD reach 100 % of utilization. Any body know why? Greetings ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo! Nuevos servicios, m?s seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es From angeltoledo at gmail.com Thu Sep 29 02:05:40 2005 From: angeltoledo at gmail.com (Angel Toledo Castro) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 21:05:40 -0500 Subject: FC4 GNOME 2.10 a bit slow on Toshiba Satellite A40 In-Reply-To: <20050929020140.14047.qmail@web26703.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20050929020140.14047.qmail@web26703.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7b8759f1050928190571421064@mail.gmail.com> How much swap do you have, and your video card? -- ---------------------------------------------------- Angel Toledo Castro, Oax, Oaxaca. http://angeltc.taweno.com - Mi Blog ----------------------------------------------------- Maybe Thats My Fantasy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hackmiester at gmail.com Thu Sep 29 18:58:03 2005 From: hackmiester at gmail.com (hackmiester) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:58:03 -0500 Subject: FC4 GNOME 2.10 a bit slow on Toshiba Satellite A40 In-Reply-To: <7b8759f1050928190571421064@mail.gmail.com> References: <20050929020140.14047.qmail@web26703.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <7b8759f1050928190571421064@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7f30c4c705092911584336912d@mail.gmail.com> That's interesting... it does that to me, also it does it when I hit Alt-F2 and begin typing. This problem is nonexistent with KDE, which I use most of the time anyway. I've got a P4/Centrino 1.6gHz with an ATI Radeon Mobility 9000. On 9/28/05, Angel Toledo Castro wrote: > How much swap do you have, and your video card? > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------- > Angel Toledo Castro, Oax, Oaxaca. > http://angeltc.taweno.com - Mi Blog > ----------------------------------------------------- > Maybe Thats My Fantasy > > -- > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > > -- -hackmiester From ymedians at yahoo.es Fri Sep 30 01:01:36 2005 From: ymedians at yahoo.es (yordy) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 03:01:36 +0200 (CEST) Subject: FC4 GNOME 2.10 a bit slow on Toshiba Satellite A40 Message-ID: <20050930010136.80103.qmail@web26703.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> > How much swap do you have, and your video card? 1 GB swap and Intel 852. swap is always free... ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo! Nuevos servicios, m?s seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es From ankit644 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 30 07:23:40 2005 From: ankit644 at yahoo.com (Ankit Patel) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 00:23:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fedora-core applications can't be killed fully from terminal ! Message-ID: <20050930072340.70111.qmail@web33608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have run the "hwbrowser" from the menu. Then i tried to kill hwbrowser from terminal. 1.kill pid_of_hwbrowser --> This command kills only binary (hwbrowser) run by the normal user, not the main application because there are many (3) processes running along with hwbrowser. and they are. [ankit at ankit ~]$ ps -aux | grep hwbrowser Warning: bad syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See /usr/share/doc/procps-3.2.3/FAQ ankit 6355 1.0 1.5 18460 8108 pts/2 S 12:38 0:00 hwbrowser root 6356 0.0 0.2 7472 1396 pts/2 S 12:38 0:00 /usr/sbin/userhelper -w hwbrowser root 6360 0.0 0.1 6772 952 pts/2 S 12:38 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/share/hwbrowser/hwbrowser root 6361 8.1 3.3 28276 16976 pts/2 S 12:38 0:01 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/hwbrowser/DeviceList.py ankit 6370 0.0 0.1 5816 660 pts/2 R+ 12:39 0:00 grep hwbrowser [ankit at ankit ~]$ 2. So, i thought i need to kill all other processes also along with hwbrowser. So, [ankit at ankit ~]$ killall -g hwbrowser [1]+ Terminated hwbrowser [ankit at ankit ~]$ ps -aux | grep hwbrowser Warning: bad syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See /usr/share/doc/procps-3.2.3/FAQ root 6360 0.0 0.1 6772 952 pts/2 S 12:38 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/share/hwbrowser/hwbrowser root 6361 1.2 3.3 28276 16976 pts/2 S 12:38 0:01 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/hwbrowser/DeviceList.py ankit 6373 0.0 0.1 4652 656 pts/2 R+ 12:40 0:00 grep hwbrowser Still gui of hwbrowser running. If you have run hwbrowser from Menu (gui) then --> All other gui applications closed and gnome-panel restarted. If you have run hwbrowser from same terminal (console) then --> Other gui applications and gnome-panel will not get affected. 3. So, finally i thought i need to be root to kill all the instances of hwbrowser. And, [root at ankit ~]# ps -aux | grep hwbrowser Warning: bad syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See /usr/share/doc/procps-3.2.3/FAQ root 6412 0.0 0.1 4656 668 pts/2 S+ 12:47 0:00 grep hwbrowser [root at ankit ~]# Now hwbrowser killed fully... If you have run hwbrowser from Menu (gui) then --> All other gui applications closed and gnome-panel restarted. If you have run hwbrowser from same terminal (console) then --> Other gui applications and gnome-panel will not get affected. This is not specific to hwbrowser only but most of the applications created in python included in fedora-core software. So, i want to know is there any solution to kill hwbrowser(which have been running from Menu(gui) not from the same terminal) without affecting other applications? Thank You! Ankit Patel __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From freelance0 at gmail.com Fri Sep 30 12:38:25 2005 From: freelance0 at gmail.com (Alex Catullo) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:38:25 -0500 Subject: Fedora-core applications can't be killed fully from terminal ! In-Reply-To: <20050930072340.70111.qmail@web33608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050930072340.70111.qmail@web33608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6dc131f20509300538y73e49450k28417e70ae2d3805@mail.gmail.com> Did you try xkill? Run it in a seperate terminal as a normal user. -Alex Catullo On 9/30/05, Ankit Patel wrote: > I have run the "hwbrowser" from the menu. Then i tried > to kill hwbrowser from terminal. > > 1.kill pid_of_hwbrowser > > --> This command kills only binary (hwbrowser) run by > the normal user, not the main application because > there are many (3) processes running along with > hwbrowser. and they are. > > [ankit at ankit ~]$ ps -aux | grep hwbrowser > Warning: bad syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See > /usr/share/doc/procps-3.2.3/FAQ > ankit 6355 1.0 1.5 18460 8108 pts/2 S > 12:38 0:00 hwbrowser > root 6356 0.0 0.2 7472 1396 pts/2 S > 12:38 0:00 /usr/sbin/userhelper -w hwbrowser > root 6360 0.0 0.1 6772 952 pts/2 S > 12:38 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/share/hwbrowser/hwbrowser > root 6361 8.1 3.3 28276 16976 pts/2 S > 12:38 0:01 /usr/bin/python > /usr/share/hwbrowser/DeviceList.py > ankit 6370 0.0 0.1 5816 660 pts/2 R+ > 12:39 0:00 grep hwbrowser > [ankit at ankit ~]$ > > 2. So, i thought i need to kill all other processes > also along with hwbrowser. So, > > [ankit at ankit ~]$ killall -g hwbrowser > [1]+ Terminated hwbrowser > [ankit at ankit ~]$ ps -aux | grep hwbrowser > Warning: bad syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See > /usr/share/doc/procps-3.2.3/FAQ > root 6360 0.0 0.1 6772 952 pts/2 S > 12:38 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/share/hwbrowser/hwbrowser > root 6361 1.2 3.3 28276 16976 pts/2 S > 12:38 0:01 /usr/bin/python > /usr/share/hwbrowser/DeviceList.py > ankit 6373 0.0 0.1 4652 656 pts/2 R+ > 12:40 0:00 grep hwbrowser > > Still gui of hwbrowser running. > If you have run hwbrowser from Menu (gui) then --> All > other gui applications closed and gnome-panel > restarted. > If you have run hwbrowser from same terminal (console) > then --> Other gui applications and gnome-panel will > not get affected. > > 3. So, finally i thought i need to be root to kill all > the instances of hwbrowser. And, > > [root at ankit ~]# ps -aux | grep hwbrowser > Warning: bad syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See > /usr/share/doc/procps-3.2.3/FAQ > root 6412 0.0 0.1 4656 668 pts/2 S+ > 12:47 0:00 grep hwbrowser > [root at ankit ~]# > > Now hwbrowser killed fully... > If you have run hwbrowser from Menu (gui) then --> All > other gui applications closed and gnome-panel > restarted. > If you have run hwbrowser from same terminal (console) > then --> Other gui applications and gnome-panel will > not get affected. > > > This is not specific to hwbrowser only but most of the > applications created in python included in fedora-core > software. > > > So, i want to know is there any solution to kill > hwbrowser(which have been running from Menu(gui) not > from the same terminal) without affecting other > applications? > > > Thank You! > Ankit Patel > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list > From ankit644 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 30 13:29:31 2005 From: ankit644 at yahoo.com (Ankit Patel) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 06:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fedora-core applications can't be killed fully from terminal ! In-Reply-To: <6dc131f20509300538y73e49450k28417e70ae2d3805@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050930132931.46052.qmail@web33603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Alex, Thanks for your reply, I know about xkill, but i don't want to interact my GUI (Mouse) to kill any application. If i want to use Mouse then i can kill application by directly clicking on the close button. The thing is i want to kill application fully from console without any interaction. --- Alex Catullo wrote: > Did you try xkill? > Run it in a seperate terminal as a normal user. > > -Alex Catullo > > On 9/30/05, Ankit Patel wrote: > > I have run the "hwbrowser" from the menu. Then i > tried > > to kill hwbrowser from terminal. > > > > 1.kill pid_of_hwbrowser > > > > --> This command kills only binary (hwbrowser) run > by > > the normal user, not the main application because > > there are many (3) processes running along with > > hwbrowser. and they are. > > > > [ankit at ankit ~]$ ps -aux | grep hwbrowser > > Warning: bad syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See > > /usr/share/doc/procps-3.2.3/FAQ > > ankit 6355 1.0 1.5 18460 8108 pts/2 S > > 12:38 0:00 hwbrowser > > root 6356 0.0 0.2 7472 1396 pts/2 S > > 12:38 0:00 /usr/sbin/userhelper -w hwbrowser > > root 6360 0.0 0.1 6772 952 pts/2 S > > 12:38 0:00 /bin/sh > /usr/share/hwbrowser/hwbrowser > > root 6361 8.1 3.3 28276 16976 pts/2 S > > 12:38 0:01 /usr/bin/python > > /usr/share/hwbrowser/DeviceList.py > > ankit 6370 0.0 0.1 5816 660 pts/2 R+ > > 12:39 0:00 grep hwbrowser > > [ankit at ankit ~]$ > > > > 2. So, i thought i need to kill all other > processes > > also along with hwbrowser. So, > > > > [ankit at ankit ~]$ killall -g hwbrowser > > [1]+ Terminated hwbrowser > > [ankit at ankit ~]$ ps -aux | grep hwbrowser > > Warning: bad syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See > > /usr/share/doc/procps-3.2.3/FAQ > > root 6360 0.0 0.1 6772 952 pts/2 S > > 12:38 0:00 /bin/sh > /usr/share/hwbrowser/hwbrowser > > root 6361 1.2 3.3 28276 16976 pts/2 S > > 12:38 0:01 /usr/bin/python > > /usr/share/hwbrowser/DeviceList.py > > ankit 6373 0.0 0.1 4652 656 pts/2 R+ > > 12:40 0:00 grep hwbrowser > > > > Still gui of hwbrowser running. > > If you have run hwbrowser from Menu (gui) then --> > All > > other gui applications closed and gnome-panel > > restarted. > > If you have run hwbrowser from same terminal > (console) > > then --> Other gui applications and gnome-panel > will > > not get affected. > > > > 3. So, finally i thought i need to be root to kill > all > > the instances of hwbrowser. And, > > > > [root at ankit ~]# ps -aux | grep hwbrowser > > Warning: bad syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See > > /usr/share/doc/procps-3.2.3/FAQ > > root 6412 0.0 0.1 4656 668 pts/2 S+ > > 12:47 0:00 grep hwbrowser > > [root at ankit ~]# > > > > Now hwbrowser killed fully... > > If you have run hwbrowser from Menu (gui) then --> > All > > other gui applications closed and gnome-panel > > restarted. > > If you have run hwbrowser from same terminal > (console) > > then --> Other gui applications and gnome-panel > will > > not get affected. > > > > > > This is not specific to hwbrowser only but most of > the > > applications created in python included in > fedora-core > > software. > > > > > > So, i want to know is there any solution to kill > > hwbrowser(which have been running from Menu(gui) > not > > from the same terminal) without affecting other > > applications? > > > > Thank You! Ankit Patel __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From hackmiester at gmail.com Fri Sep 30 18:39:51 2005 From: hackmiester at gmail.com (hackmiester) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 13:39:51 -0500 Subject: Fedora-core applications can't be killed fully from terminal ! In-Reply-To: <20050930132931.46052.qmail@web33603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <6dc131f20509300538y73e49450k28417e70ae2d3805@mail.gmail.com> <20050930132931.46052.qmail@web33603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7f30c4c70509301139l67eca75ha0005b70b93e8d3@mail.gmail.com> [hfuller at IBM-99-AFZ00 ~]$ xkill Select the window whose client you wish to kill with button 1.... xkill: killing creator of resource 0x2e00007 Maybe something could be done with that resource #? On 9/30/05, Ankit Patel wrote: > Alex, > > Thanks for your reply, > > I know about xkill, but i don't want to interact my > GUI (Mouse) to kill any application. If i want to use > Mouse then i can kill application by directly clicking > on the close button. > > The thing is i want to kill application fully from > console without any interaction. > > --- Alex Catullo wrote: > > > Did you try xkill? > > Run it in a seperate terminal as a normal user. > > > > -Alex Catullo > > > > On 9/30/05, Ankit Patel wrote: > > > I have run the "hwbrowser" from the menu. Then i > > tried > > > to kill hwbrowser from terminal. > > > > > > 1.kill pid_of_hwbrowser > > > > > > --> This command kills only binary (hwbrowser) run > > by > > > the normal user, not the main application because > > > there are many (3) processes running along with > > > hwbrowser. and they are. > > > > > > [ankit at ankit ~]$ ps -aux | grep hwbrowser > > > Warning: bad syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See > > > /usr/share/doc/procps-3.2.3/FAQ > > > ankit 6355 1.0 1.5 18460 8108 pts/2 S > > > 12:38 0:00 hwbrowser > > > root 6356 0.0 0.2 7472 1396 pts/2 S > > > 12:38 0:00 /usr/sbin/userhelper -w hwbrowser > > > root 6360 0.0 0.1 6772 952 pts/2 S > > > 12:38 0:00 /bin/sh > > /usr/share/hwbrowser/hwbrowser > > > root 6361 8.1 3.3 28276 16976 pts/2 S > > > 12:38 0:01 /usr/bin/python > > > /usr/share/hwbrowser/DeviceList.py > > > ankit 6370 0.0 0.1 5816 660 pts/2 R+ > > > 12:39 0:00 grep hwbrowser > > > [ankit at ankit ~]$ > > > > > > 2. So, i thought i need to kill all other > > processes > > > also along with hwbrowser. So, > > > > > > [ankit at ankit ~]$ killall -g hwbrowser > > > [1]+ Terminated hwbrowser > > > [ankit at ankit ~]$ ps -aux | grep hwbrowser > > > Warning: bad syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See > > > /usr/share/doc/procps-3.2.3/FAQ > > > root 6360 0.0 0.1 6772 952 pts/2 S > > > 12:38 0:00 /bin/sh > > /usr/share/hwbrowser/hwbrowser > > > root 6361 1.2 3.3 28276 16976 pts/2 S > > > 12:38 0:01 /usr/bin/python > > > /usr/share/hwbrowser/DeviceList.py > > > ankit 6373 0.0 0.1 4652 656 pts/2 R+ > > > 12:40 0:00 grep hwbrowser > > > > > > Still gui of hwbrowser running. > > > If you have run hwbrowser from Menu (gui) then --> > > All > > > other gui applications closed and gnome-panel > > > restarted. > > > If you have run hwbrowser from same terminal > > (console) > > > then --> Other gui applications and gnome-panel > > will > > > not get affected. > > > > > > 3. So, finally i thought i need to be root to kill > > all > > > the instances of hwbrowser. And, > > > > > > [root at ankit ~]# ps -aux | grep hwbrowser > > > Warning: bad syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See > > > /usr/share/doc/procps-3.2.3/FAQ > > > root 6412 0.0 0.1 4656 668 pts/2 S+ > > > 12:47 0:00 grep hwbrowser > > > [root at ankit ~]# > > > > > > Now hwbrowser killed fully... > > > If you have run hwbrowser from Menu (gui) then --> > > All > > > other gui applications closed and gnome-panel > > > restarted. > > > If you have run hwbrowser from same terminal > > (console) > > > then --> Other gui applications and gnome-panel > > will > > > not get affected. > > > > > > > > > This is not specific to hwbrowser only but most of > > the > > > applications created in python included in > > fedora-core > > > software. > > > > > > > > > So, i want to know is there any solution to kill > > > hwbrowser(which have been running from Menu(gui) > > not > > > from the same terminal) without affecting other > > > applications? > > > > > > > > Thank You! > Ankit Patel > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! 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