[Fedora-livecd-list] pilgrim livecd work

[Dan Williams]

On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 11:29 -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2006, David Zeuthen wrote:
> 
> > > If OLPC is a "derived" from Redhat or Fedora Core distribution, I really 
> > > do not see how this pertains to this list.
> > 
> > I think Rahul answered this already. I'll also note that this is not a
> > kadishchi specific list (or at least that's my impression) and several
> > people have asked me to specifically post my work here.
> 
> Yes.  In fact, I hounded David relentlessly for a couple of weeks to
> publicize his work here, because I think it's excellent.
> 
> It's natural to be skeptical of new code, but bear these facts in mind:
> 
> 1. PRIORITY.  
> 
> Kadischi is heavily reliant upon Anaconda.  Anaconda's functionally is a
> large superset of Kadischi's.  Anaconda also has significant *business*
> pressures on its roadmap.  Kadischi patches are, therefore, low priority
> for Anaconda developers.
> 
> Pilgrim, on the other hand, performs *extremely* similar tasks for OLPC.  
> OLPC must be imaged very simply, and very uniformly.  A Live CD/Live DVD 
> is the same.
> 
> 2. INSTALL FUNCTIONALITY.
> 
> If there's one place where Ubuntu has an *actual* lead on us, it's in 
> their ability to install a Live CD directly to a system.  From what I've 
> seen, we're closer to closing that gap with Pilgrim than we are with 
> Kadischi.

Interesting question; does Ubuntu's LiveCD allow a user to upgrade a
currently hard-disk-installed Ubuntu to the Ubuntu version that's booted
from the LiveCD, like you would do a clean install?  Or do they punt
that functionality?

Dan

> 3. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
> 
> I'd like to see the prominent developers on this list -- Chitlesh, Jasper, 
> jdog, and others I've surely left out -- have commit access.  With 
> Anaconda, that simply can't happen.  With Pilgrim, it might.
> 
> ===
> 
> These three facts, in my mind, are reason enough to ask the Fedora Live CD
> community to consider the benefits of Pilgrim.  If we want to develop the
> two technologies side-by-side, that's fine too.  But this is the
> fedora-livecd-list -- *not* the kadischi list.
> 
> --g
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