low-hanging fruit
Dan Williams
dcbw at redhat.com
Thu Aug 16 15:58:36 UTC 2007
On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 00:31 -0400, Jon Nettleton wrote:
> On 8/15/07, Matthias Clasen <mclasen at redhat.com> wrote:
> As discussed in the meeting, here is my personal
> "laundry list" of low-hanging fruit. Note that some of
> these are being worked on for F8 anyway.
>
> - enable nss-mdns by default
> - clean up emblems in nautilus
> - remove obsolete applets
> - reconsider default panel config (launchers)
> - unlock keyring on login
>
> This should be included in gnome 2.20 with the new gnome-keyring.
> It includes a pam module to do this. If it doesn't then I can finish
> hacking
> pam_keyring to do what we want.
>
>
> - use xdg-user-dirs consistently
> - disable root login
>
> I don't know why. I think the goal is ot make security seamless
> enough
> that people don't feel the "need" to log in as root.
>
>
> - get rid of xfs
> - get rid of pam_console
>
> In the long run YES! This is probably not happening for Fedora 8.
> Should we instead use the UGROUPS property to allow users to
> have administrative gui privileges in the short term. Could win
> back some popularity among reviewers. Yes I know how awful
> that sounds, but it is a fact of life.
>
>
> - NM by default
>
> Would love to see this. Don't know if we can make it
We're trying :)
> - PA by default
> - get rid of a bunch of services that we don't need on a
> live cd, like nfs/rpc/autofs
> - have a close look at the system-config tools we install
> - cleaned up artwork packaging
>
> And here are some larger things:
>
> - rethink installation and updates (see hughsie's
> recent work)
> - desktop background stuff:
> slideshows, channels, per-workspace
> - no lvm/raid in livecd installer
> - good xrandr 1.2 support
> - no root user
> - replace init system
>
> I don't know if the init system needs to be replaced or just
> rethought.
> I have been hacking on this on and off for the past 3-4 days and my
> conclusion is that the perception of the boot process is more
> important
> than what actually happens. The first 17 seconds of boot is tied to
> hardware and display initialization. From there everything leads up
> to what
> "needs" to be running when a user logs in. I am working on a proper
> write up
>
> - new graphical boot
>
> Since we have to start X eventually I don't see the big problem with
> rhgb.
> I am trying to finish up my work getting rhgb to start in the gdm init
> scripts.
> This allows rhgb and gdm to share an initial xserver and give a
> smoother
> boot process.
>
>
> - composited desktop by default
>
> Would love to see this. For my own personal use I have started
> hacking
> more gnomish features into xfwm4. Basically a new config gui and
> gconf
> functionality for storing settings. I know most people could care
> less but
> I think it will give a good 2d composited desktop option based on some
> solid window manager work by the XFCE guys.
>
>
> - rethink user account handling:
> kiosk mode (?), guest accounts
>
>
> I think our problem has become looking for a magic bullet solution for
> everything,
> and neglecting good ideas waiting on that idea. NetworkManager is the
> future of
> networking for linux but we have been neglecting other solutions for
> years waiting
> on it. Composited desktops, init-system, and graphical booting are
> going to be
> the new ones. Perhaps it is time to start planning in smaller steps.
> It is great to
> have the grand vision but we tend to fall behind waiting for that to
> happen.
>
> Jon
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