low-hanging fruit
seth vidal
skvidal at fedoraproject.org
Tue Aug 21 17:48:03 UTC 2007
On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 12:06 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote:
> A couple of things
>
> - AFAIK there's plenty of UI package management tools besides pirut
> in the FPC and that's fine. Diversity, all that stuff.
>
> - When you say "should be fedora" [sic] do you mean "PackageKit should
> not be in Fedora Package Collection or "default in mainline Fedora"?
> I believe it's the latter thought I can't tell cuz you're being
> ambiguous. Please avoid doing that, thanks.
This might be a tonal issue - but you sound like a jerk when you say
things like the above. You come off as fairly arrogant and unnecessarily
sarcastic. It's off-putting.
What I meant is given the set of features PackageKit wants to have I do
not think it is a good idea and will probably be confusing if both it
and Pirut are included by default in a fedora install.
>
> - Note that "default in mainline Fedora" doesn't preclude the desktop
> spin from using PackageKit instead of Pirut.
That's correct. Though I'd hope a compelling case would be made before
complicating things in this way.
> If you think about it, that's kinda of the _point_ of the desktop
> spin; to change the defaults from mainline Fedora to optimize the
> experience for a narrow set of people.
Correct. Provided we don't end up sucking those things in for everyone.
> - No-one says that PackageKit is ready for inclusion at all, all
> people, like me, say is that it's looking promising in terms
> of dealing with things that other projects, like Pirut, just choose
> to regard as non-issues / ignore.
good. glad to hear that. I think PackageKit is chasing us part way down
a blind alley, but that's one of the options available to fedora. My
saying 'I think this is a blind alley' is an option available to me.
-sv
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