From roguexz at gmail.com Wed Nov 14 16:00:19 2007 From: roguexz at gmail.com (Rogue) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:30:19 +0530 Subject: A bugzilla bookmark in the default Firefox install? Message-ID: <473B1B93.3000508@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, I had a need to file a bug regarding some SELinux related matters, and one of the things that I felt would be a good to have is a bookmark pointing to the Fedora bugzilla. This bookmark could get installed in the stock Firefox/Galeon/etc installs. What do you guys think about it? - -Rogue -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHOxuTceS9IQvx51YRAqg9AKCTKXnck76lnLeuz5/9N2RTBXaMMACeIAxa gu1p3Xb72y9Hl+0FPrhgQDY= =moG7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rstrode at redhat.com Wed Nov 14 16:17:57 2007 From: rstrode at redhat.com (Ray Strode) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:17:57 -0500 Subject: A bugzilla bookmark in the default Firefox install? In-Reply-To: <473B1B93.3000508@gmail.com> References: <473B1B93.3000508@gmail.com> Message-ID: <473B1FB5.4000307@redhat.com> Hi, > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi All, > > I had a need to file a bug regarding some SELinux related matters, and > one of the things that I felt would be a good to have is a bookmark > pointing to the Fedora bugzilla. This bookmark could get installed in > the stock Firefox/Galeon/etc installs. > > What do you guys think about it? > > - -Rogue > Sounds like a good idea. We should have upstream bugzillas there as well. --Ray From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Nov 15 04:14:15 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:44:15 +0530 Subject: A bugzilla bookmark in the default Firefox install? In-Reply-To: <473B1FB5.4000307@redhat.com> References: <473B1B93.3000508@gmail.com> <473B1FB5.4000307@redhat.com> Message-ID: <473BC797.9020706@fedoraproject.org> Ray Strode wrote: > Hi, >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hi All, >> >> I had a need to file a bug regarding some SELinux related matters, and >> one of the things that I felt would be a good to have is a bookmark >> pointing to the Fedora bugzilla. This bookmark could get installed in >> the stock Firefox/Galeon/etc installs. >> >> What do you guys think about it? >> >> - -Rogue >> > Sounds like a good idea. We should have upstream bugzillas there as well. I would prefer that you link to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugsAndFeatureRequests instead of bugzilla directly. Rahul From sundaram at fedoraproject.org Thu Nov 15 04:16:08 2007 From: sundaram at fedoraproject.org (Rahul Sundaram) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:46:08 +0530 Subject: The KDE-SIG needs (your) help In-Reply-To: References: <200710292315.23149.ml@deadbabylon.de> Message-ID: <473BC808.9040803@fedoraproject.org> Mark Bidewell wrote: > I am certainly interested in helping with KDE. Is there any way to use > testing kde without using full rawhide? > > Thanks Depends on what you want to test but there are updates frequently pushed to Fedora updates-testing repository that doesn't require Rawhide. # yum update/install --enablerepo=updates-testing Refer http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Testing Rahul From caillon at redhat.com Thu Nov 15 10:11:01 2007 From: caillon at redhat.com (Christopher Aillon) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:11:01 +0100 Subject: A bugzilla bookmark in the default Firefox install? In-Reply-To: <473B1B93.3000508@gmail.com> References: <473B1B93.3000508@gmail.com> Message-ID: <473C1B35.2040903@redhat.com> On 11/14/2007 05:00 PM, Rogue wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi All, > > I had a need to file a bug regarding some SELinux related matters, and > one of the things that I felt would be a good to have is a bookmark > pointing to the Fedora bugzilla. This bookmark could get installed in > the stock Firefox/Galeon/etc installs. > > What do you guys think about it? Honestly, this sounds like the perfect item to add to the default homepage to me. Bookmarks are more permanent. Once you get a bookmark, you can't change it with an update. The start page is more liquid, so if we were ever to move to e.g. bugzilla.fedoraproject.org or whatever, we could just change it on the start page. From bclark at redhat.com Thu Nov 15 15:55:01 2007 From: bclark at redhat.com (Bryan Clark) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:55:01 -0500 Subject: A bugzilla bookmark in the default Firefox install? In-Reply-To: <473C1B35.2040903@redhat.com> References: <473B1B93.3000508@gmail.com> <473C1B35.2040903@redhat.com> Message-ID: <473C6BD5.4080304@redhat.com> Christopher Aillon wrote: > On 11/14/2007 05:00 PM, Rogue wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hi All, >> >> I had a need to file a bug regarding some SELinux related matters, and >> one of the things that I felt would be a good to have is a bookmark >> pointing to the Fedora bugzilla. This bookmark could get installed in >> the stock Firefox/Galeon/etc installs. >> >> What do you guys think about it? > > Honestly, this sounds like the perfect item to add to the default > homepage to me. Bookmarks are more permanent. Once you get a > bookmark, you can't change it with an update. The start page is more > liquid, so if we were ever to move to e.g. bugzilla.fedoraproject.org > or whatever, we could just change it on the start page. > 100% agree! We an even be friendlier than a bookmark on the homepage than in bookmarks because we could use a little more room to explain things. A bookmark might end up being "Fedora Bugzilla" and mean something to few where off the homepage we could be a little more task based showing links to FAQs for possibly common problems and Fedora Bugzilla for filling issues. ~ Bryan From roguexz at gmail.com Sat Nov 17 12:19:52 2007 From: roguexz at gmail.com (Rogue) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:49:52 +0530 Subject: A bugzilla bookmark in the default Firefox install? In-Reply-To: <473C6BD5.4080304@redhat.com> References: <473B1B93.3000508@gmail.com> <473C1B35.2040903@redhat.com> <473C6BD5.4080304@redhat.com> Message-ID: <473EDC68.8080702@gmail.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Bryan Clark wrote: > Christopher Aillon wrote: >> On 11/14/2007 05:00 PM, Rogue wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I had a need to file a bug regarding some SELinux related matters, and >>> one of the things that I felt would be a good to have is a bookmark >>> pointing to the Fedora bugzilla. This bookmark could get installed in >>> the stock Firefox/Galeon/etc installs. >>> >>> What do you guys think about it? >> >> Honestly, this sounds like the perfect item to add to the default >> homepage to me. Bookmarks are more permanent. Once you get a >> bookmark, you can't change it with an update. The start page is more >> liquid, so if we were ever to move to e.g. bugzilla.fedoraproject.org >> or whatever, we could just change it on the start page. >> > 100% agree! We an even be friendlier than a bookmark on the homepage > than in bookmarks because we could use a little more room to explain > things. A bookmark might end up being "Fedora Bugzilla" and mean > something to few where off the homepage we could be a little more task > based showing links to FAQs for possibly common problems and Fedora > Bugzilla for filling issues. Yup, it is definitely a good idea to publish such a link on the home page. If we do put it on the page, which page would that be? When I launch the stock firefox browser, i see the following bookmarks under the folder "Fedora Project" on my toolbar: 1. Fedora Project 2. Fedora Forum 3. Fedora Weekly News 4. Fedora Unity 5. Planet Fedora 6. More Support & Discussion So from the perspective of a new user, where should the user go to in order to provide feedback / log bugs? I like the idea (which Rahul suggested) that we take the user to the BugsAndFeatureRequests page. It would be good if this page could be linked via the main project page, 'cos currently in order to get to this page the flow is the following: (if navigating from the main site) Fedora Project -> Communicate -> #Providing Feedback to Developers -> BugsAndFeatureRequests (if navigating from the browser bookmark) More Support & Discussion -> #Providing Feedback to Developers -> BugsAndFeatureRequests Either ways it looks like a slight cumbersome route to follow. I do realize that bug-buddy has eased out quite a bit of the problems, but it would be great if the pages could be a little more easily accessible. On a side note, I think it would be a good idea to have a simple UI that would also allow people (non-developers) to view the status of the bugs that they filed via bug-buddy. Reasoning being that the non-developers are likely to feel more empowered when they see a dashboard style view of the bugs that they have filed (also given that navigating/searching through bugzilla can be rather tedious!). It is likely to encourage them in a small little way to file bugs and improve the overall quality of the software. The current workflow is to file a bug via bug-buddy, and then keep tracking changes via the occasional mail that drops in with a whole lot of technical jargon (which most non-developers may not appreciate). thanks, Rogue -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHPtxoceS9IQvx51YRAi9ZAJsHhg1lRgMOU8kbOC5XEwsSxXPFUgCdG1jD Q7Ibr4oZk6Ik1wnqgJMG32E= =Sg4X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ivanquirino1928 at gmail.com Wed Nov 21 17:35:07 2007 From: ivanquirino1928 at gmail.com (Ivan Quirino) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:35:07 -0300 Subject: I'm new here and I want to help fedora project with the usability project Message-ID: Hi, I new on fedora project and I want to help, so I chose this project. If someone could guide me, I would be pleased. There's so much thing to do and to think that I got lost. =) I have ideas for the anaconda interface, and some other things... Ivan Quirino -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When I select CDROM, the disk is not detected despite that the PC booted suscesfully and the BIOS "see" the DVD. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks, fem --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lavalamp at spiritual-machines.org Fri Nov 23 17:34:11 2007 From: lavalamp at spiritual-machines.org (Brian A. Seklecki) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 12:34:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: Fedora 7 Installation Issue In-Reply-To: <396292.37684.qm@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> References: <396292.37684.qm@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20071123123320.Y64412@arbitor.digitalfreaks.org> On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, FRANCISCO ESTREMERA wrote: > Dear All, > > When the installation process get to the point in which it ask me for > the files, the option list does not shows DVD. When I select CDROM, the > disk is not detected despite that the PC booted suscesfully and the BIOS > "see" the DVD. This happens w/ SATA and Firewire attached optical disks. Send us the output of dmesg(1). Try an FC8 ISO. ~BAS > > Any help will be appreciated. > > Thanks, fem > > > --------------------------------- > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. l8* -lava (Brian A. Seklecki - Pittsburgh, PA, USA) http://www.spiritual-machines.org/ "Guilty? Yeah. But he knows it. I mean, you're guilty. You just don't know it. So who's really in jail?" ~Maynard James Keenan -------------- next part -------------- -- Fedora-desktop-list mailing list Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list From davidz at redhat.com Sun Nov 25 23:53:57 2007 From: davidz at redhat.com (David Zeuthen) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:53:57 -0500 Subject: Fedora 7 Installation Issue In-Reply-To: <396292.37684.qm@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> References: <396292.37684.qm@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1196034837.15597.0.camel@oneill.fubar.dk> On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 08:38 -0800, FRANCISCO ESTREMERA wrote: > Dear All, > > When the installation process get to the point in which it ask me for > the files, the option list does not shows DVD. When I select CDROM, > the disk is not detected despite that the PC booted suscesfully and > the BIOS "see" the DVD. > > Any help will be appreciated. Your post is off-topic for this list. Please try fedora-list instead. Thanks. David From fauxfire_2026 at yahoo.com Mon Nov 26 19:22:55 2007 From: fauxfire_2026 at yahoo.com (Max Jordan) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:22:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: fedora 8, is it for me? Message-ID: <347245.58839.qm@web45403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> hello i am thinking about switching to fedora and i am having a heck of a time trying to get information, i have a dell Inspiron B130 celeron processor. and i can't seem to find if there are any hard ware incompatibilities and weather or not i can have it installed on this computer without having major cross compatibility issues, i have some programs such as windows media player and windows movie maker that i would like to continue to use, as well as a few built in hardware features. so i guess my question would be, fedora 8, is it for me? Thank you Bren ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. 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In-Reply-To: <347245.58839.qm@web45403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <347245.58839.qm@web45403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1196108649.15597.13.camel@oneill.fubar.dk> On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 11:22 -0800, Max Jordan wrote: > hello i am thinking about switching to fedora and i am having a heck > of a time trying to get information, i have a dell Inspiron B130 > celeron processor. > and i can't seem to find if there are any hard ware incompatibilities > and weather or not i can have it installed on this computer without > having major cross compatibility issues, i have some programs such as > windows media player and windows movie maker that i would like to > continue to use, as well as a few built in hardware features. so i > guess my question would be, fedora 8, is it for me? > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PostIsOffTopic Thanks, David From gerold at lugd.org Mon Nov 26 20:25:35 2007 From: gerold at lugd.org (Gerold Kassube) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:25:35 +0100 Subject: fedora 8, is it for me? In-Reply-To: <347245.58839.qm@web45403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <347245.58839.qm@web45403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1196108735.3602.2.camel@F7NB.homenet.local> ONE way to find it out .... download (if possible) a LIVE-Version and try out what you want to do with it :-) Regards Gerold Am Montag, den 26.11.2007, 11:22 -0800 schrieb Max Jordan: > hello i am thinking about switching to fedora and i am having a heck > of a time trying to get information, i have a dell Inspiron B130 > celeron processor. > and i can't seem to find if there are any hard ware incompatibilities > and weather or not i can have it installed on this computer without > having major cross compatibility issues, i have some programs such as > windows media player and windows movie maker that i would like to > continue to use, as well as a few built in hardware features. so i > guess my question would be, fedora 8, is it for me? > > > Thank you > Bren > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > -- > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil URL: From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Tue Nov 27 00:40:16 2007 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gian Paolo Mureddu) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:40:16 -0600 Subject: fedora 8, is it for me? In-Reply-To: <1196108649.15597.13.camel@oneill.fubar.dk> References: <347245.58839.qm@web45403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <1196108649.15597.13.camel@oneill.fubar.dk> Message-ID: <474B6770.5070407@prodigy.net.mx> David Zeuthen escribi?: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PostIsOffTopic > > Thanks, > David > Maybe there's need to be a better explanation for the Desktop list? I see way too often "off-topic" messages posted to this list too, so maybe it is time to better explain what the purpose of the list is? The message doesn't seem to be getting across the audience all that well, as if someone want s to use Fedora as a desktop OS, they find this list and "assume" (as we know, incorrectly) that it is the right place to post. Even the name may be deceiving (fedora-deskop, instead of fedora-desktop-devel or some such), maybe is time to check that? For many feodra-users gets way too much traffic, and some feel more granularity about fedora usage is in order (similar to the granularity of the forums in fedoraforum, I'm not directly comparing, though), at any rate one thin is clear, a better statement of the purpose of the list, or a better way to make it clear enough... Though I can hardly think of anything better than what we already have in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate From fauxfire_2026 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 27 00:18:55 2007 From: fauxfire_2026 at yahoo.com (Max Jordan) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:18:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: fedora 8, is it for me? Message-ID: <697612.35811.qm@web45407.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> where would i get a live version and how do i install it? ----- Original Message ---- From: Gerold Kassube To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 1:25:35 PM Subject: Re: fedora 8, is it for me? ONE way to find it out .... download (if possible) a LIVE-Version and try out what you want to do with it :-) Regards Gerold Am Montag, den 26.11.2007, 11:22 -0800 schrieb Max Jordan: > hello i am thinking about switching to fedora and i am having a heck > of a time trying to get information, i have a dell Inspiron B130 > celeron processor. > and i can't seem to find if there are any hard ware incompatibilities > and weather or not i can have it installed on this computer without > having major cross compatibility issues, i have some programs such as > windows media player and windows movie maker that i would like to > continue to use, as well as a few built in hardware features. so i > guess my question would be, fedora 8, is it for me? > > > Thank you > Bren > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > -- > Fedora-desktop-list mailing list > Fedora-desktop-list at redhat.com > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx Tue Nov 27 04:49:52 2007 From: gmureddu at prodigy.net.mx (Gian Paolo Mureddu) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:49:52 -0600 Subject: fedora 8, is it for me? In-Reply-To: <697612.35811.qm@web45407.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <697612.35811.qm@web45407.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <474BA1F0.4050507@prodigy.net.mx> Max Jordan escribi?: > where would i get a live version and how do i install it? Just go to the project's site and check the "Get Fedora" section ;) And you don't install a Live version, you run it from the CD/DVD drive and see how well your hardware setup is generally supported, some times HW support is better when the system is actually installed, as some updates add better support for some devices, but a live system should give you a general impression of what the system is all about. From mikkel at infinity-ltd.com Tue Nov 27 14:16:36 2007 From: mikkel at infinity-ltd.com (Mikkel L. Ellertson) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:16:36 -0600 Subject: fedora 8, is it for me? In-Reply-To: <474BA1F0.4050507@prodigy.net.mx> References: <697612.35811.qm@web45407.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <474BA1F0.4050507@prodigy.net.mx> Message-ID: <474C26C4.8090208@infinity-ltd.com> Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote: > Max Jordan escribi?: >> where would i get a live version and how do i install it? > > Just go to the project's site and check the "Get Fedora" section ;) > > And you don't install a Live version, you run it from the CD/DVD drive > and see how well your hardware setup is generally supported, some times > HW support is better when the system is actually installed, as some > updates add better support for some devices, but a live system should > give you a general impression of what the system is all about. > One added point - if you decide you want to install it after trying the live CD, it does offer an install option. 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Matthias From david at lovesunix.net Fri Nov 30 17:10:24 2007 From: david at lovesunix.net (David Nielsen) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:10:24 +0100 Subject: automatic unlocking of keyring In-Reply-To: <1196440726.4562.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1196440726.4562.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1196442624.3056.1.camel@dawkins> fre, 30 11 2007 kl. 11:38 -0500, skrev Matthias Clasen: > As some may remember, we turned automatic unlocking of > keyrings at login time off at a late time in the F8 schedule, > since it was not working properly with our pam configuration. > > pam has meanwhile gained a new feature that will hopefully > allow this to work reliably (substack). I have built > gdm-2.21.2-0.2007.11.20.4.fc9 and gnome-keyring-2.20.2-2.fc9 > in rawhide with this turned on. > > Please try it and tell me if it works for you. Works for me on my Rawhide x86_64 box. 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Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dette er en digitalt underskrevet brevdel URL: From jon.nettleton at gmail.com Fri Nov 30 20:32:24 2007 From: jon.nettleton at gmail.com (Jon Nettleton) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:32:24 -0500 Subject: automatic unlocking of keyring In-Reply-To: <1196442624.3056.1.camel@dawkins> References: <1196440726.4562.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1196442624.3056.1.camel@dawkins> Message-ID: <1196454744.2424.48.camel@birkoff.charles.net> On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 18:10 +0100, David Nielsen wrote: > fre, 30 11 2007 kl. 11:38 -0500, skrev Matthias Clasen: > > As some may remember, we turned automatic unlocking of > > keyrings at login time off at a late time in the F8 schedule, > > since it was not working properly with our pam configuration. > > > > pam has meanwhile gained a new feature that will hopefully > > allow this to work reliably (substack). I have built > > gdm-2.21.2-0.2007.11.20.4.fc9 and gnome-keyring-2.20.2-2.fc9 > > in rawhide with this turned on. > > > > Please try it and tell me if it works for you. > > Works for me on my Rawhide x86_64 box. Excellent I was getting tired of > unlocking that thing manually to get connected to the wifi on lock in. > This is great news. If things look good I vote for pushing this to our F8 users. I will test it on F8 and report back. Jon From mclasen at redhat.com Fri Nov 30 20:56:17 2007 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:56:17 -0500 Subject: automatic unlocking of keyring In-Reply-To: <1196454744.2424.48.camel@birkoff.charles.net> References: <1196440726.4562.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1196442624.3056.1.camel@dawkins> <1196454744.2424.48.camel@birkoff.charles.net> Message-ID: <1196456177.6900.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 15:32 -0500, Jon Nettleton wrote: > On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 18:10 +0100, David NielI dsen wrote: > > fre, 30 11 2007 kl. 11:38 -0500, skrev Matthias Clasen: > > > As some may remember, we turned automatic unlocking of > > > keyrings at login time off at a late time in the F8 schedule, > > > since it was not working properly with our pam configuration. > > > > > > pam has meanwhile gained a new feature that will hopefully > > > allow this to work reliably (substack). I have built > > > gdm-2.21.2-0.2007.11.20.4.fc9 and gnome-keyring-2.20.2-2.fc9 > > > in rawhide with this turned on. > > > > > > Please try it and tell me if it works for you. > > > > Works for me on my Rawhide x86_64 box. Excellent I was getting tired of > > unlocking that thing manually to get connected to the wifi on lock in. > > > > This is great news. If things look good I vote for pushing this to our > F8 users. I will test it on F8 and report back. It'll have to wait for substack support in the F8 pam, though. I don't know what Tomas' plans are for that. Tomas ? From davidz at redhat.com Fri Nov 30 21:25:24 2007 From: davidz at redhat.com (David Zeuthen) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:25:24 -0500 Subject: automatic unlocking of keyring In-Reply-To: <1196440726.4562.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1196440726.4562.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1196457924.6750.2.camel@oneill.fubar.dk> On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 11:38 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > As some may remember, we turned automatic unlocking of > keyrings at login time off at a late time in the F8 schedule, > since it was not working properly with our pam configuration. > > pam has meanwhile gained a new feature that will hopefully > allow this to work reliably (substack). I have built > gdm-2.21.2-0.2007.11.20.4.fc9 and gnome-keyring-2.20.2-2.fc9 > in rawhide with this turned on. > > Please try it and tell me if it works for you. Nice work. Almost there: ? 1. Logging in via fingerprint auth; doesn't work.. but that's expected 2. Logging in via password; unlocking keyring works fine 3. Change password 4. Logging in via password; doesn't unlock keyring 5. Change back to old password ? 6. Logging in via password; unlocking keyring works fine So I think you're missing the bit where the keyring password is updated. HTH, David From mclasen at redhat.com Fri Nov 30 21:43:02 2007 From: mclasen at redhat.com (Matthias Clasen) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:43:02 -0500 Subject: automatic unlocking of keyring In-Reply-To: <1196457924.6750.2.camel@oneill.fubar.dk> References: <1196440726.4562.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1196457924.6750.2.camel@oneill.fubar.dk> Message-ID: <1196458982.6900.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 16:25 -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: > On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 11:38 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > As some may remember, we turned automatic unlocking of > > keyrings at login time off at a late time in the F8 schedule, > > since it was not working properly with our pam configuration. > > > > pam has meanwhile gained a new feature that will hopefully > > allow this to work reliably (substack). I have built > > gdm-2.21.2-0.2007.11.20.4.fc9 and gnome-keyring-2.20.2-2.fc9 > > in rawhide with this turned on. > > > > Please try it and tell me if it works for you. > > Nice work. Almost there: > > ? 1. Logging in via fingerprint auth; doesn't work.. but that's expected That'll work once you engrave your password on your fingertip, I guess. > 2. Logging in via password; unlocking keyring works fine > > 3. Change password > > 4. Logging in via password; doesn't unlock keyring This would work if we added gnome-keyring support to /etc/pam.d/passwd. The bug against authconfig to do that is still open: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=250147