Gimp vs GNU Image Manipulation Program

[Valent Turkovic]

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Nils Philippsen <nphilipp at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 12:32 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote:
>  > On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 10:49 +0100, Nils Philippsen wrote:
>  > > On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 17:06 +0100, Robi wrote:
>  > > > So why don't you just put:
>  > > > "GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP)", "Internet messenger (Pidgin)"
>  > > > etc.... Everybody happy, right?
>  > >
>  > > Weeell. This would mean that somebody would have to whip the GNOME panel
>  > > into shape first so that it actually displays "Generic Name (Name)".
>  > > Then everybody and their uncle would have to fix desktop files which
>  > > have generic names as "Name" to work around that deficiency. Kind of a
>  > > catch-22 if you ask me. Perhaps we should propose that as a feature for
>  > > F10.
>  >  From a quick look into my menu it seems like now most of the software
>  > installed in gnome by default use "Name Generic Name" in their desktop
>  > files (like Epiphany Web Browser), which I think is the best way to do
>  > that. But I am well aware that other people might think otherwise.
>
>  The bad thing is that this is often done by having "Name=Name
>  GenericName" and having no GenericName instead of keeping those
>  separate. We really should get that situation fixed for F10, i.e. so
>  that the desktop files use Name, GenericName consistently (as per spec)
>  and the desktop environments (i.e. panels e.a.) use these as per spec.
>
>
>  > The problem with GIMP is however that GNU Image Manipulation Program is
>  > not a generic name but it's full name (GIMP is just an acronym). And
>  > while the long name is quite suited for standalone usage (i.e. without
>  > the generic name part displayed) GIMP might be better for the long
>  > variant, though I am not certainly sure what would its generic name be,
>  > perhaps "Raster Graphics Editor" (following the example of "Inkscape
>  > Vector Graphics Editor").
>
>  I've just talked to upstream about this and they're not too happy about
>  (ab)using the system with "Name=GIMP" and "GenericName=GNU Image
>  Manipulation Program". Perhaps the spec should be extended to have an
>  AbbreviatedName key, so gimp.desktop could have:
>
>  ...
>  AbbreviatedName=GIMP
>  Name=GNU Image Manipulation Program
>  GenericName=Image Manipulation Program
>  Comment=Manipulate your images
>  ...
>
>  GenericName could even be left empty as it's a subset of Name. The menus
>  could then have it (based on if the user prefers short or long names)
>  like this:
>
>  Name/AbbreviatedName (GenericName)
>
>  or alternatively (if there is not GenericName)
>
>  Name/AbbreviatedName
>
>  and the comment as the tooltip of the menu entry. This would even work
>  with legacy (Name and GenericName combined into Name) desktop files.
>
>
>  > But I agree with Nicu that the most important thing is consistency. It
>  > indeed would make sense to propose that as a feature for F10, regardless
>  > which format for display we decide to use... And if such a feature would
>  > be indeed proposed, I think it should be worked on with upstream as much
>  > as possible.
>
>  Yes.
>
>
>
>  Nils

Correct me if I'm wrong but they said that GenericName should be "Image Editor"

and for the rest of this +1 from me.

Cheers,
Valent.


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